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| 7 | My biggest struggle right now is being judgedWhy would you be embarrassed that people knew you liked a girl? Own it. And if she doesn’t reciprocate, let it go and move on. No big deal | /r/seduction | 20/08/24 04:09 PM |
| 27 | I'm having a hard time believing that looks aren't that important when wanting to hookup or something casualLooks are super important for online dating. For meeting people in real life, they're certainly helpful. There's 100 good reasons to start working out regularly and eating a healthy diet of mostly plants, and women are definitely one of them. But it's not as important as people make it out to be | /r/seduction | 19/08/24 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Why do women say: "The bar is so low for men" yet to get any results from cold approach as an avg guy, the interaction has to be exceptional basically. And even then nothing is guaranteedIf she's fearing sexual assault, she's not relaxed and having fun. Every guy will be rejected in cold approach most of the time. That's just facts. But the colder the approach, the less context or fittingness of the approach, the higher the odds of rejection. The more relaxed the situation can be, the less jarring or odd the approach, the higher your odds of some kind of connection. But most times she's just not going to be into you, for a million perfectly valid reasons that are completely outs… | /r/seduction | 19/08/24 03:10 PM |
| 2 | Why do women say: "The bar is so low for men" yet to get any results from cold approach as an avg guy, the interaction has to be exceptional basically. And even then nothing is guaranteedBeing nice is for scared people (and Minnesotans). Being centered and kind is what a genuinely confident person does. But, of course, she needs to be getting wet. AND she needs to be feeling relaxed and having fun. It’s not one or the other, it’s both. | /r/seduction | 19/08/24 02:18 PM |
| 0 | Why do women say: "The bar is so low for men" yet to get any results from cold approach as an avg guy, the interaction has to be exceptional basically. And even then nothing is guaranteedSpeaking to my close women friends, especially the beautiful ones, both SA and harassment by suitors has been WAY more common than I ever expected. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t approach women — just find ways to let them know you’re dtf, and yet you’re not going to rape them or follow them down the street shouting “Fuck you, slut,” if they reject you | /r/seduction | 19/08/24 01:47 PM |
| 0 | Why do women say: "The bar is so low for men" yet to get any results from cold approach as an avg guy, the interaction has to be exceptional basically. And even then nothing is guaranteedWomen, quite rightly, are afraid of men. Especially men that are not in their social circle and don’t have clear social proof. Not only is SA extraordinarily common, but most women have many experiences of men turning into vicious assholes, and/or stalkers, when they’re given an opportunity and then rejected. Make them comfortable, and a little hot. Demonstrate that you’re safe in the world, but dangerous in bed. | /r/seduction | 19/08/24 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Why are girls attracted to intelligence?Women love poets and musicians, too. It shows you have the skills to handle the world and other people | /r/seduction | 19/08/24 12:18 PM |
| 2 | How to constantly flirtGet out of your head. Meditation and exercise help. When you’re with a woman you’re attracted to, center yourself in your heart and/or your cock. | /r/seduction | 17/08/24 04:23 PM |
| 17 | Ended at her place but weird sexual experienceA woman’s pussy is only slightly more sensual, even sexual, than her lips or breasts or hips or thoughts or hands or feet, etc. You can ravish a woman without touching her pussy. And next time you’re out with a woman, stop after two drinks | /r/seduction | 16/08/24 03:41 PM |
| 3 | First thing to say when approaching girls?Indirect, but slightly flirtations so that you can get a sense for her openness. I like them to want me by the end, where they’re hoping I’m going to ask for their number | /r/seduction | 16/08/24 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Has the long game ever worked for anyone?Long game is the best game. But it’s not what you’re doing right now. Long game is planting the seeds with a bunch of women by flirting just a bit, over and over, for weeks and months. Obviously, you need to be in a context where you’ll likely see them again. You develop a rapport with each one, and each one should be exciting to you in some way. You’re trying to get them to think about you when they’re at home, and to crush on you a bit. You’re forward, clearly sexually interested, but never ma… | /r/seduction | 13/08/24 11:35 PM |
| 2 | Hard to settle down once you know about game?You’ll find someone really amazing. Then it’s time to be a man and make a commitment. These days, nonmonogamy is an option, as well, but you should be up front about wanting that, from the beginning | /r/seduction | 13/08/24 09:56 PM |
| 6 | Has being super obvious about your interest ever worked?Very true | /r/seduction | 11/08/24 03:36 AM |
| 1 | I'm out guys!I agree, your response seems appropriate to the tone on the comment. AndI agree with you that you can largely discard the Game stuff that PUA do. But there is wisdom here, too. Specifically, the type of seduction suggested in Models, and frequently here, is more important than ever. You need to be always seducing her, unless you want to break up with her. If you don’t want to seduce her, suddenly, then give it a few months, talk to her about it, and if you can’t get back the mojo, just break up … | /r/seduction | 07/08/24 05:41 PM |
| 17 | What type of intimate stare/look do men prefer in bed?In bed, I love her eyes to be soft and delicate and VERY tender and submissive. In the seduction stage, before I’ve captured her, I like when her eyes flash and she’s challenge and fire and a little intimation of submission | /r/seduction | 07/08/24 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Are women honest about their ideal body type?It seems like there’s what women think they should want, there’s what they actually want in a man for a relationship, and there’s what turns them on. Most women want a civilized man who is strong but kind, and competent. But there’s a whole lot of women whose panties get all wet at the thought of a big guy throwing them around and being able to lift them like a child, if that strength is channeled toward desiring and caring for her. | /r/seduction | 06/08/24 06:27 AM |
| 9 | New York City vs Los Angeles?NYC is far better. There’s way more young women than young men. The women who are drawn to NYC are beautiful. Everyone has style. They’re educated and doing cool stuff. And everyone is outside, in the streets and in shops and in parks and etc. LA had some beautiful women, but they’re more plastic TV types. Lots of visible plastic surgery. They’re desperate for a break into film/TV. And they’re in their cars or at some producer’s party | /r/seduction | 05/08/24 08:50 PM |
| 2 | My first cold approach was interrupting her being cold approached lolYou’re dedicated to your disability - hope you enjoy it! Depends on what one means by success! 🤣. In this context of opening with someone, success means someone openly engages with you in a moment of friendly interaction Personally, I’d assert that you’ll have about the same success as a handsome man and an ugly one (exceptions for the top and bottom 2% or so). And I’d go further! I’d assert that you’ll have about the same success with men as with women! You’ll have a little less success with ve… | /r/seduction | 05/08/24 07:25 PM |
| 8 | Is she testing me or just being honest?You moved into Nice Guy territory. Too intimate for a normal friend meetup, not flirty or arousing enough for a date. You knew it was a date. She knew it was a date. But then you connected with your head and a little with your heart. Next time you’re on a date, bring your energy to your heart and your cock, and engage with the woman from there. | /r/seduction | 05/08/24 05:54 PM |
| 4 | My first cold approach was interrupting her being cold approached lolNo, the conditions I presented are the only conditions that I have seen matter. Being conventionally attractive makes some women more open to flirting, but that’s a step further. Your first engagement with a woman should be almost the same as if she was a man, and should only happen in a context where a small man would feel comfortable engaging with a much larger man randomly for a moment But if you start out aggressive or in an unsafe space for the woman, it’s a Hail Mary and unlikely to succee… | /r/seduction | 05/08/24 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Slightly off topic but do you have friends that blatantly lie about how they seduce women?He was probably trying to mislead you because he was ashamed that he was hiring an escort, and didn’t want to tell everyone | /r/seduction | 05/08/24 02:09 PM |
| 43 | My first cold approach was interrupting her being cold approached lolTwo great lessons: 1) most single women are very open to a cold approach if it’s fairly natural, in a place where she doesn’t feel threatened, and you aren’t needy. 2) most single women really don’t want you to keep pushing once she deflects. It’s sometimes possible to deflect a deflection, but only if you can make her laugh. Otherwise, just wish her well and move on | /r/seduction | 05/08/24 01:44 PM |
| 7 | What do you think is the reason woman reject youNo, it’s about coming to your center, being aware and open in your feelings and body, and confident in the worth of your being, outside of any external validation. | /r/seduction | 04/08/24 06:58 PM |
| 3 | should i be open to her about dating or talking to other woman often?Just tell them that you’re not up for something serious just yet. Or, if you want to sleep with multiple peoples at once, be clear that you’re consensually non-monogamous, and go to town | /r/seduction | 03/08/24 09:14 PM |
| 3 | My crush just told me that I am handsomePerfect. Not go find something interesting to do next weekend, and invite her on an adventure with you | /r/seduction | 03/08/24 08:43 PM |
| 1 | What would be a good response when someone says that you are good looking?Thanks! You’re not too bad yourself! (Ideally, you look then from head to toe while you say this, with a look of playful desire) That’s what my mom says, too That’s soooo true! | /r/seduction | 03/08/24 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Sex clubs?BadGuy is trying to ruin sex clubs by flooding them with single men. The good parties tend to be more selective, and amazing. But the bad clubs are just a bunch of single guys walking around in their underwear with zombie eyes. Nobody’s getting laid except those who came with someone | /r/seduction | 03/08/24 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Just turned 29 just got out of relationship, already doing well meeting women just need some more pointers from my experienced brothersYou’re delusional, in a way that provides very self-serving justifications. | /r/seduction | 02/08/24 03:43 PM |
| 5 | Just turned 29 just got out of relationship, already doing well meeting women just need some more pointers from my experienced brothersSure. If you’re doing online, I’ve found it’s best to try to set up a coffee date quick to see if there’s real chemistry. Text chemistry is a different thing, and it’s not very related to real chemistry, in my experience. If they ask, though, you can say something like “I’m 29 — just experienced enough to know what I like, and skilled enough to get it.” Or something. Obviously, make it fit who you are. But young men are idiots, so many younger women are open to older guys. I hear what you’re say… | /r/seduction | 01/08/24 09:26 PM |
| 7 | Just turned 29 just got out of relationship, already doing well meeting women just need some more pointers from my experienced brothersJust don’t make a big deal out of your age. But don’t hesitate to play up your experience and maturity. I’d encourage you to date women over 22 | /r/seduction | 01/08/24 07:40 PM |
| 4 | The problem some of you have is you “over-complicate” the entire ordeal..Someone with the intelligence and skill to analyze deeply, and the confidence and centeredness to relax and find good with whatever’s happening. That’s a man that not only attracts women’s attention, but takes them to bed when he wants, and has the sense and self-knowledge to pick the right woman for himself and build an incredible relationship with her. | /r/seduction | 30/07/24 06:57 AM |
| 2 | Was Dating a more even playing field before apps and social media?No, But it was more fun and less depressing | /r/seduction | 30/07/24 03:03 AM |
| 2 | How do you guys respond to "I have a bf" in a playful wayBut is he as charming as me? | /r/seduction | 29/07/24 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Do you think more attractive girls are less likely to show interest explicitly?Beautiful women get more interest from aggressive men. And they have infinite options online. And they’re often treated like goddesses or royalty by normal people. So they’re often a bit reticent. But many are sick of the aggressive apples with the balls to talk with them, and think it’s silly that people are so scared of them just because they’re pretty. Just treating them like human beings — imperfect, fully tease-able, but deserving of respect — can be enough sometimes | /r/seduction | 28/07/24 09:33 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys deal with neediness?The key is to seek your center — it’s there in your body, and so grounding. From there, a sense of basic happiness arises. The rest is gravy | /r/seduction | 28/07/24 06:31 PM |
| 1 | I’m officially physically attractive. Now what? My experience with not focusing on building genuine confidence.Doesn’t work? For what, exactly? Depending on the frequency, duration, type, and skill of meditation, as well as the natural variance of any practice, meditation can be as powerful as an acid trip or great lovemaking, or as dull as study hall | /r/seduction | 28/07/24 04:39 AM |
| 2 | How to stop Catching Feelings when dating?Wait longer before you have sex, and date more than one woman at a time. Then only have sex with the ones you really like. If the sex is great, and she's into you, then let those feelings fly! Ideally, there's mutual chemistry, and you both catch feelings. If not, let her go and start again | /r/seduction | 26/07/24 08:30 PM |
| 3 | I’m officially physically attractive. Now what? My experience with not focusing on building genuine confidence.Try meditation | /r/seduction | 26/07/24 07:39 PM |
| 2 | How important what you say when you approach a girl?Obviously, you can say things that will positively turn her off. So avoid hot button issues, unless you can handle the heat and make it a way to flirt. But generally, check out the movie Pootie Tang. It’s ridiculous, but mostly right. Sign your kitty on the runny kine. | /r/seduction | 25/07/24 09:21 PM |
| 4 | Confused about success OLD date not going anywhereI suspect this is right. But it’s interesting that it’s a mostly American phenomenon. In Southern Europe and South America, if you don’t show strong interest early, a woman won’t think you’re interested at all. Not sure why American women tend to be so catty, but it seems similar to the bullying culture of masculinity in America. | /r/seduction | 25/07/24 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Dating someone more successful than youIf you can let go of comparisons and programmed cultural expectations, it can be great. Brilliant successful women are the best. And they often enjoy a strong dominant man in the bedroom, if you can appreciate her strength in the living room | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Women I approached either married or have a boyfriendYou’re coming off as needy. Try talking with everyone, men, women, old, young, etc. talk to them all the same at first. Then, if you feel a charge talking with a woman, and her eyes are dancing a bit, flirt. If she flirts back, play with her for a few minutes, then ask for her number. | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 12:06 AM |
| 1 | It's okay for a man to cry?Crying is fine, even good. But women really like men to be centered and not crying over petty things like something they wanted but didn’t get. | /r/seduction | 23/07/24 02:39 AM |
| 3 | Any guys here have a 10/10 girl in a 5+ relationship and recover when she is living the rich life?Give it time. Meditate, exercise, go dancing, strengthen your friends network, find your joy in life. Date when you meet a woman you really like | /r/seduction | 22/07/24 09:38 PM |
| 4 | Keep getting “I didn’t feel a spark” after the first dateJudging by my experience, it’s way less than 1/5. Real mutual chemistry is pretty rare — it’s where you both get a little electricity and want to touch people and feel dreamy. | /r/seduction | 22/07/24 05:59 PM |
| 3 | Keep getting “I didn’t feel a spark” after the first dateThe vast majority of women you meet, there won’t be mutual chemistry. You think you’re into her because she looks good or whatever, but you’re not actually into her. That’s one reason it’s so much better to meet people in real life — you can talk with lots of people and only proceed with a woman if there’s genuine mutual chemistry. | /r/seduction | 22/07/24 04:46 PM |
| 7 | Women lose attraction when they start to know me. It is normal?Might be that your you and your friends are kind of assholes when you get together? | /r/seduction | 22/07/24 12:36 PM |
| 3 | Beautiful women into me, but I have low self-esteemYou’re afraid. Some will reject you or you’ll discover it’s not a good match for you. Some you might really like each other, and then you’ll need to figure out how to be centered and enjoy a deeper relationship. Go for it | /r/seduction | 20/07/24 04:54 PM |
| 2 | It is so hard not to get bitter.Exactly — make it about meeting petite and getting to know them and yourself with them. Find ways to enjoy yourself, even if the person is a bit irritating. Make it fun. Most people you talk to won’t become friends, let alone dear friends. Most women you engage with won’t become friends or lovers, let alone serious, long-term girlfriends. So appreciate what’s happening. It’s not a job that you’re doing (dating) just to earn money (sex or relationships). It’s going to a dinner party to enjoy the … | /r/seduction | 20/07/24 04:19 PM |
| 3 | It is so hard not to get bitter.It’s hard, it’s hard, it’s hard, and then at a certain point you stop caring about the outcome, and you start to really appreciate the process and enjoy the spontaneity of getting to know someone and seeing where it goes. Then it becomes much more fun | /r/seduction | 20/07/24 03:56 PM |
| 3 | How did you get rid of your victim mentality?Relax. People can feel the tension underneath. It’s about finding someone that you have mutual chemistry with, who makes you feel electric in your skin and Champagne bubbles in your heart. Instead you’re just looking to check the girlfriend box | /r/seduction | 19/07/24 01:16 PM |
| 6 | She fell into my lapLesson learned, hopefully. Fortune favors the bold. Don’t bother her for a month, or so | /r/seduction | 18/07/24 05:30 PM |
| 1 | How to handle when girl demands more of your attention?Depends on how you feel about it. Is it too much? Then it’s too much, and you should talk to her about it. Are you enjoying it? Then enjoy it | /r/seduction | 16/07/24 01:19 AM |
| 1 | I really don't understand why tinder is still so popular and why men keep using this trashUnless you look like a model, you should be wholly focused on meeting women in the real world. And even if you look like a model, that’s what you should do. It’s so much easier, better, and more fun | /r/seduction | 15/07/24 11:13 AM |
| 8 | Why no success in clubs?Sounds like you’re an unusual attractive guy, with lots of beautiful woven interested in you. No one likes to be rejected, and beautiful women are really not used to it. When they give you a look that holds for 1/4 seconds longer than needed, you’re good. A second caught eye is quite decisive. If you want to check, try repeatedly looking at someone behind the woman you’re interested in. If she looks behind her, you know she’s trying to figure out what other woman you’re more interested in than h… | /r/seduction | 14/07/24 03:07 PM |
| 102 | First taste of female attractionMore practice flirting with those women. Maybe there’s real mutual chemistry — then get the numbers and go | /r/seduction | 11/07/24 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Man FUCK I keep getting nauseaous before datesTry the gentle vase breathing technique. It’s quite grounding and centering, especially for times when the “energies” or whatever are wiggling in your belly and racing up to your head. https://youtu.be/9vVg-hOvl5I?si=fQ2wic4Iz3MKr6z7 | /r/seduction | 10/07/24 09:06 AM |
| 0 | Why do women like vampires, werewolves, and vulnerability?Look at Ronaldo — he’s the star, he practices like a magic, and he’s handsome. When he misses a penalty kick, he cries for a minute. Then he’s right back playing his hardest for the team. That’s the kind of vulnerability a woman wants — strong, centered, kind. They want a man who’s strong enough that he can be open with his feelings, and also take care of their woman | /r/seduction | 09/07/24 01:53 PM |
| 3 | Girls kiss ass for the guys they like and make the others wait for no reason. Going for maybe girls is POISONTotally right. There’s an uncertain period at the beginning, then you’re sorted into in or out. If you’re in, the trick is to stay centered enough that you don’t start acting like a thirsty idiot and turn her off. If you’re out, the only thing to do is to go start dating other women. | /r/seduction | 09/07/24 01:38 PM |
| -1 | Do you mention your job on dating apps?I’d probably run off your personality, and leave the job as a surprise, unless you’re looking for a professional marriage | /r/seduction | 07/07/24 06:40 PM |
| 6 | Is “giving it up” no longer valuable for girlsSo you just cum in women and buy them the morning after pill?!? You’re like the poster boy for the reason women are wary of men. Emergency contraception is hard on women’s bodies, and often makes them quite sick. Pulling out is easy and free Plus, as it sounds like you’re acting from selfish motives, alone, there’s no obligation for a woman to take your $50 pill, but there will be an obligation to pay child support. | /r/seduction | 07/07/24 04:19 PM |
| 2 | Is “giving it up” no longer valuable for girlsWhile I’d disagree about sex with condoms, I hope that 1) you’re getting STI tests every quarter or so, and 2) you’re always pulling out. There’s no way for a woman to get pregnant without a man coming in her pussy. And these days, with a fundamentalist Supreme Court, she may be trapped | /r/seduction | 07/07/24 03:53 PM |
| 12 | Do you mention your job on dating apps?It’s a fairly high status job, like being an electrical engineer. Good money and smart people. But it carries with it a stigma similar to that of the electrical engineer — poor social skills, poor style, and questionable hygiene. Might get matches, but for the wrong reasons. On top of that, many software engineers are Chinese or Indian, and there’s a perception that those cultures are typically chauvinist and the men expect to be coddled. | /r/seduction | 07/07/24 02:48 PM |
| 12 | asking a girl her true intensions of why she wants to datePeople don’t know what they want, and if they do they’re often hesitant to say. Approach patiently and indirectly | /r/seduction | 05/07/24 02:19 PM |
| 0 | is it better to be honest you only want sex or lie that you want romanceWhy are you so set against a relationship? | /r/seduction | 05/07/24 10:26 AM |
| 1 | Can you be “perfect” and still get cheated on?Absolutely. Cheating is often more about freshness and feelings of inadequacy or lack within the cheater than it is a reflection on their partner. | /r/seduction | 04/07/24 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Do you think joining toastmasters would help me increase my social skills especially when it comes to talking to women?Kizomba! Yes | /r/seduction | 03/07/24 10:21 AM |
| 2 | Feeling like a loser if a date doesn’t end in sex?I guess, maybe stop expecting dates to end in sex? Try to enjoy yourself during a date. That’s what you should focus on. Stay centered in your body and be present with your desire and feelings. Listen more than talk, but flirt and let the cock/erotic energy move openly. If she’s feeling it, you’ll know. If she’s not, that’s fine, too. Find other things to enjoy about the date, and don’t try to pretend a mediocre connection is something great. Just move on with joy | /r/seduction | 02/07/24 07:52 PM |
| 7 | I’m (23m) the only man at a new job, how should i make the most of this?When I was 19, a 50 year old family friend took me to the side, and said, “There was an old bull and a young bull on top of a hill. Down below was a pasture ripe with lovely cows. “The young bull said to the old bull, ‘let’s run down there and fuck one of those cows!’ “The old bull responded, ‘let’s walk down there and fuck them all.’” Have patience, be kind, gain justified trust. Flirt with them all, even the ones you’re not so interested in. Then ask out the one you have the first, most dynami… | /r/seduction | 02/07/24 06:00 PM |
| 13 | Constantly getting ghosted after sex.I agree — clubs and hot parties are great places for a night or week of fun, but usually the women are in transition or otherwise not ready for a real relationship | /r/seduction | 01/07/24 03:39 PM |
| 1 | She liked my message when I asked her out?Don’t sweat it. She was probably offended that you scheduled something so far out | /r/seduction | 27/06/24 05:10 PM |
| 2 | I'm going broke wine n' dining American girls just to get ghosted. Want to go overseas.I live in NYC, which is way more full of millionaires. If you insist on dating gold- diggers, don’t complain that it costs your all your gold. | /r/seduction | 26/06/24 12:44 PM |
| 2 | I'm going broke wine n' dining American girls just to get ghosted. Want to go overseas.Jesus! Why spend so much in every date? The first date is just a chemistry check — meet for coffee or a drink. That should eliminate 9/10 of the non-matches. Of the women you actually really like, maybe 1/20 are such a great match that they deserve serious, multi- year commitment. But 3-6 months is pretty typical. So no need to keep saying so frequently. Also, if you meet women in real life, first, you have much better odds that there’s mutual chemistry | /r/seduction | 26/06/24 12:34 PM |
| 0 | Why You’ll Never Get Better At GameI disagree, sorry if. Men need to be better centered and less anxious, or stuck in their heads. But there also need to start taking risks and feeling the wind in their hair. Nothing women love more than an adventure, and who better to take them than a seasoned adventurer. Plus, it’s just a richer life | /r/seduction | 26/06/24 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Showing mental weakness is a turnoff to most women.Half true. Vulnerability is great, but women really get turned off by guys who are not centered. In other words, sort your shit out, get to a place where you’re centered and basically happy regardless of the circumstances. Then, when you meet a woman, you can be very honest about the difficulties you’ve had and it will increase intimacy and trust | /r/seduction | 20/06/24 02:44 PM |
| 6 | Girl asked to be exclusive on second date—how to not give boyfriend?When I meet a woman and we have strong mutual chemistry, I stop with the games after a few dates. Never caused me any problems | /r/seduction | 14/06/24 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Question about genderI saw a porn video with a m->f Tg star, and at least judging from the outside, the only thing about her vagina that was noticeable was that it was weirdly perfect, like a teenage boy’s dream of a pussy | /r/seduction | 09/06/24 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Question about genderI can’t speak to everything you’ve said, but my understanding was that the vagina in m->f Tg people was the penis turned inside out. So there should be plenty of sensation, just no clitorus | /r/seduction | 09/06/24 11:01 PM |
| 5 | After sex increase attractionTake her on adventures, take care of her (such is very different from doing whatever she wants), and be always seducing and always responsive. Then fuck her so good. But just know that what works right now won’t always work. So be playful and creative over time, and don’t build resentment about inevitable change | /r/seduction | 09/06/24 06:19 PM |
| 1 | She Confessed me but doesn’t wanna date meYou give far too much credit to strategy and manipulation. The vast majority of people (especially men) are just getting kicked around by their emotional reactions and habitual thought/behavior patterns, and then make up ideas to try to justify. | /r/seduction | 07/06/24 05:05 PM |
| 16 | She Confessed me but doesn’t wanna date meShe’s not playing with you, but she is unhappy and emotionally unstable and kind of testing you to make you jealous or see if you’re centered and secure. If you date her, you’ll need to gently take her in hand. I always recommend that people try to work to a place of basic happiness before engaging in a serious relationship. And seek partners who are also basically happy | /r/seduction | 07/06/24 02:24 PM |
| 10 | Complimented my eye doctor on her hair and eyesExcellent. Compliment everyone (except maybe girls under 20), and do it genuinely. The best practice is with men. Seriously. And the best compliments are those regarding something that the person has power over. So complimenting someone’s freckles or calves is likely to irritate them. But complimenting their jacket, or the way they do something, makes people feel great. Always only genuine Honestly, going around looking for things that you appreciate any people is not only a great way to get com… | /r/seduction | 07/06/24 01:33 AM |
| 1 | It's happening again. What should I do ?This is not really true | /r/seduction | 07/06/24 12:00 AM |
| 3 | Guys who pull..How common is it for women to equally keep the flow of conversation going.Lean to be comfortable with silence. If there’s a natural gap, and you’re not curious about something, then let the silence be. Nothing needs to fill the silence. That would probably be a great time to tell her to have a wonderful day, and walk away. But if you’re sitting for a meal or whatever, then just let it be. Either she discovers something to say/ask, or you do, or you can be silent together for a bit. Silence is golden, as long as you’re not aching and squirming under the weight of the s… | /r/seduction | 06/06/24 12:04 PM |
| 7 | A quick guide: why you should never try to win back an exWhile I largely agree with this, chasing can be ended in as a form of flirtatious play. If you’re having fun playing, don’t worry about it. If you’re strategizing and worrying, then it’s time to move on | /r/seduction | 04/06/24 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Being in shape, body game is the foundation to "seduction"Yeah, work out 5 days/week and cut the calories. You don’t need to be some muscle-dude, but show care and responsibility, even some pride, in your body and appearance. You’ll feel better and look better, and everything is more fun. And women definitely notice | /r/seduction | 04/06/24 07:46 PM |
| 26 | When I want them they don't want me, when they want me I don't want themThis isn’t difficult, dude. Mutual chemistry means BOTH parties are feeling butterflies and electricity and laughing easy, etc. If someone feels hot toward you, and it’s not reciprocated, use that as an opportunity to feel what it’s like to be desired and not want it. It can teach you a lot about the experience of the women that you desire but who don’t desire you back. Then treat those women with the care and respect you would have liked to have received from girls who you had an unreciprocated… | /r/seduction | 04/06/24 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Can someone explain how casual dating works in the USA?It does not work the way you expect. Your expectations are common among those viewing western sex-positive culture from a much more conservative standpoint. But those expectations will lead you to behave in a way that Is almost universally disliked, if you don’t learn. So congratulations for coming here and asking! Western women will sometimes have sex without knowing someone very well. But it’s fairly rare. Most women are quite particular. And they have a lot of options, especially the beautifu… | /r/seduction | 03/06/24 11:04 PM |
| 4 | The biggest problem here is...This is absolutely right. So much of the trouble of American men is that most of the good ones are totally stuck in their heads, trying to figure out how to get what they want without offending anyone. Instead, come back to experience. Pay attention to her and yourself, and show your desire to move you while being sensitive to her responses. Don’t worry about offending. Don’t even worry about hurting her — when you fall in love, you’ll always end up getting hurt, and that’s ok. But don’t harm an… | /r/seduction | 03/06/24 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Insight: it's all about the girlThat’s about 2/3 true. Which is why working out, taking care of your hygiene, and developing a personally fitting style is important. But women are much less interested in looks than guys are. And if you get them stuck in their heads deliberating, they’re not interested | /r/seduction | 01/06/24 08:12 PM |
| 0 | Asking for consentDon’t ask. Engage responsively and be prepared to be humble, apologize genuinely, and learn how you can do better next time. https://youtu.be/ulrxrM8Sldk?si=NwZRk54Tbi6pkdQu | /r/seduction | 01/06/24 07:39 PM |
| 6 | Do cute (6-8) girls act more stuck up than hot (9-10) girls?Stop ranking women by looks, as though you access the hive-mind of male desire when you encounter a woman. Just be with people, and observe when you’re finding yourself aroused or excited to be closer to someone, and then observe them and be responsive | /r/seduction | 31/05/24 03:29 PM |
| 1 | When People Say "Confidence Attracts Women", What do They Mean Exactly?I’ll show you the direct path to unshakable confidence. If you predicate the value of your being on any external factor, such as the approval of others or the money in your bank account, etc., then you will always find yourself going up and down, feeling good and bad, because those factors are always changing and only a little under your control. So break out of that. Shed it like an old skin. Look at what you desire, outside of any external approval. Become skillful at pursuing what you want. D… | /r/seduction | 31/05/24 01:08 AM |
| 1 | have you ever met promiscuous girls who sleep around with these characteristics?Sounds like a girl with some trauma and/or poor mental health. She may be promiscuous as a way to seek affection and a sense of belonging, but it’s probably not because she enjoys sex (not that she doesn’t ever enjoy sex, But that she’s likely doing it for the guys, not herself). She could probably use some support from someone who isn’t just trying to use her. if you want to help her you should start by absolutely deciding that you will not ever sleep with her. You’ll just be a friend, and try … | /r/seduction | 29/05/24 08:11 PM |
| 3 | How do you guys stop having every girl you have sex with to stop falling for you and keep it as just fwb?Vulnerable is a huge turn on for women — it shows supple strength. Insecurity, however, is among the worst turn-offs | /r/seduction | 29/05/24 05:43 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys stop having every girl you have sex with to stop falling for you and keep it as just fwb?Then stop doing it. Or at least learn the signs that a woman is falling for you and, if you have no intention of escalating, sit them down for a hard conversation before they go further. Then, maybe, consider exploring nonmonogamy | /r/seduction | 29/05/24 05:41 PM |
| 6 | How do you swallow your pride and talk to women?Sounds like you’re not having trouble meeting women, or getting dates, you’re having trouble with relationships. There are infinite reasons why that might be, but it’s worth noting that relationships are much more complicated than seduction. Still, from your description, it sounds like you have an avoidant attachment style, so you might want to bring awareness to that. What are you afraid of, when it comes to women? Why? If you open your heart, and trust deeply, your heart may indeed get broken.… | /r/seduction | 29/05/24 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Date with a non english speakerIt’s not about words. Take this as an opportunity to practice the most important thing — centered confidence and responsive play. If you’ve got the riz for it, and the willingness to look foolish with grace, then take her dancing | /r/seduction | 27/05/24 07:56 PM |
| 2 | I banned dating apps from my lifePatience. A few weeks is a moment. | /r/seduction | 27/05/24 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Why is night game so much harder than day game?At night, most women are on guard for sleazy dudes just looking for a ONS. | /r/seduction | 25/05/24 12:17 PM |
| 2 | After what date can you start discussion about exclusivity?That certainly hasn’t been my experience. But I guess it depends on how you play the games. Some playful gamesmanship is skillful seduction. But it can easily turn into instrumental manipulation | /r/seduction | 24/05/24 10:36 PM |
| 2 | After what date can you start discussion about exclusivity?I disagree. Playing women shows a certain lack of confidence, but it’s common since so many American women seem to be conditioned to dismiss men who don’t play the game according to the current expectations. | /r/seduction | 24/05/24 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Are girls more attracted by looks or confidence in guys?This is the most accurate answer | /r/seduction | 24/05/24 08:32 PM |
| 1 | After what date can you start discussion about exclusivity?Sometimes guys play women BECAUSE they like them. Don’t assume anything, either way, until you’ve asked. | /r/seduction | 24/05/24 08:19 PM |
| 0 | Exhausted from Dating..Who knows? Patience and ease are essential. But, if you run into a woman with that kind of chemistry in the future, and you feel similarly toward her, you need to make your desire clear. Sounds like she opened herself completely, told you how kind you were, but then you didn’t move forward and show her that you were a man who could also reach out and take what he wanted | /r/seduction | 24/05/24 01:27 PM |
| 3 | I’m addicted to female attention.Indeed, there’s lots of kinds of attention that are very uncomfortable, or even frightening, especially for women | /r/seduction | 23/05/24 01:02 PM |
| 18 | Not interested in relationships, do true FWB's exist?Yes, it definitely exists. It's easiest to find in a context that's fundamentally limited such as when one of you will be moving away in a few months | /r/seduction | 22/05/24 01:32 PM |
| 77 | I’m addicted to female attention.Everyone likes attention from the opposite sex. You’re learning to be desirable at first glance, and many women will respond to that. Enjoy it, but release the grasping into it | /r/seduction | 22/05/24 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Highschooler needs helpMake your life an adventure, then invite women to join you. Don’t worry too much about trouble with women — most 17 yr old guys look and act like they’re still in the pupae stage. Find and develop your passions, exercise your body, learn to center your mind and ground yourself in joy. Women so become abundant as you mature | /r/seduction | 21/05/24 03:01 PM |
| 1 | I finally have a girl who's into me. How do I just not fuck up.Don’t sweat it. Have fun, don’t take it too seriously at the beginning, and explore together. | /r/seduction | 20/05/24 09:13 PM |
| 1 | I think she’s the one 👀You're moving at the right speed, but your imagination is running way too fast. Focus on doing your stuff, and building a roaring bonfire from the spark you've got right now. The feelings you're having are a sign that you should be allowing your heart to open to her, but it's absolutely essential that you stay centered and focused on taking care of yourself in the process. | /r/seduction | 20/05/24 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone struggle with the seemingly contradictory mindsets of dating and attraction?Those are two sides of the same coin. Be bold, dominant, centered, and go after what you want. And part of that is knowing who you are and what you want. And what you want is someone who really turns you on, and who you laugh with and go on amazing adventures with and can also manage life together with. That's what women want, too. And part of being bold and centered is accepting that things are the way they are, without trying to change them to become different. If you keep pursuing someone who… | /r/seduction | 20/05/24 03:29 PM |
| 1 | How do I attract white womenThey probably smell your thirsty fetishization and are not especially interested. Approach white women like most other women -- warmth, humor, playfulness and a sense of adventure are all winners. Add a sensual voice and body-language, good habits, and some ambition, and you'll have your pick. But it's essential that you view them as individuals, and look to how they're responding as individuals. Fruitless and frustrating (and creepy) to try to seduce a woman who has given you a clear no, or eve… | /r/seduction | 20/05/24 03:02 PM |
| 4 | 25m. Got laid but feels weird.Why do you feel gross and guilty? | /r/seduction | 19/05/24 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Hit new level. Things I learned.Right. A bit like “a play” in soccer or football or basketball — you make a plan, practice the different parts, then that plan and practice helps orient and gently guide you as you engage with the spontaneous chaos/delight of the actual world and actual people. | /r/seduction | 19/05/24 01:47 PM |
| 3 | Hit new level. Things I learned.Nah, it’s not about formulas, it’s about managing spontaneity with aplomb | /r/seduction | 19/05/24 01:16 AM |
| 3 | Went out solo todayExactly. Nothings going to happen, and knowing that relieves the pressure. | /r/seduction | 15/05/24 10:16 PM |
| 3 | Met a feisty one, not sure how to pursue furtherYou had a great night. She’s definitely into you, and she likes that you’re your own person. Keep being yourself, hold your center, and don’t blow it by becoming too thirsty or an asshole. | /r/seduction | 13/05/24 01:26 PM |
| 1 | What does she wantWhy did you wait for her? Take the lead, man. I’d go do something fun with friends and text to ask if she wants to join. Or, if that’s not possible, text her now with “hey, it’s Friday night, should I send the helicopter to pick you up?” Or something. Have fun with it | /r/seduction | 10/05/24 09:13 PM |
| 19 | Why she kissed me but refused to give me number?She found you hot and wanted to enjoy the moment being hot with you! Appreciate it and let it go. You also might not have kissed her very well. Many men are too aggressive in their kissing -- mashing mouths and using a lot of tongue are generally turn-offs for women, at least before they're deeply infused with eros. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulrxrM8Sldk&t | /r/seduction | 10/05/24 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Do women do soft launches on social media to maintain exit optionality?I’ve always dated multiple women at a time, until I settle down with one. That’s the way to do it, honestly. What’s the problem? | /r/seduction | 09/05/24 04:45 PM |
| 2 | is it my age group or just meI think 27-28 is prime for women, and around 35 for men. But yeah, young women are flaky, until they’re not | /r/seduction | 09/05/24 03:07 PM |
| 1 | How To Be Truly AwareFocusing on the now. Not only do women love that when you’re flirting with them, but they love it even more in bed. One of the best practices you can learn — relax into the spontaneity of the present | /r/seduction | 09/05/24 01:30 AM |
| 3 | Literal model walks into a bar and it's amazing how girls naturally gravitated towards himSure. You’re not talking about the top 20%, or even the top 2%. You’re talking about the top 0.002%. I say that with confidence because I live in NYC and still NEVER see guys like that. On top of it, this guys sounds like he was centered and warm and confident — he came up to the round table and acted with magnanimity. In general, looks are far less important than guys think. But they certainly help, and if a guy is mind-numbing hot, and self-assured, he’s going to have women throwing themselves… | /r/seduction | 08/05/24 05:57 PM |
| 7 | I approached my Gym crush and got rejectedGood job! Now go get rejected 20 more times | /r/seduction | 08/05/24 11:48 AM |
| 3 | Would you guys date a high body count woman?Absolutely. The check-list will lead you astray. But there’s mutual respect and enjoyment and eros, i.e., you two have mutual chemistry, and her heart is soft for you, than go for it | /r/seduction | 07/05/24 01:42 PM |
| 3 | Did I just miss a great opportunity?Women are like cats. You need to be confident enough to approach them directly, and skilled enough to approach them from the side. | /r/seduction | 06/05/24 05:27 PM |
| 13 | Friends brought me out to the bar for first timeThe only way to get over it is to gather the courage and go talk to lots of women, flirt with the ones you like, and get brushed off over and over and over, while also reflecting a bit and not being attached to any identity or practice. Just go enjoy yourself with women, and accept that it's ok to show your sexual interest to them through subtle cues. Drop the worrying and get out of your head and into your heart and senses. | /r/seduction | 22/04/24 03:45 PM |
| 1 | I had a unexpeted hook up and I feel bad about itBreak the shame. But first, reflect on it. It's coming from some ideology that's hardened and isn't letting you be free to be yourself. Be conscientious about safe sex and doing harm to others, and then enjoy. Sometimes, however, after a very hot night, especially if she's now gone, we feel lonely or yearn for a deeper connection. That's fine. There's nothing wrong with exploring joyfully with someone who's on the same page. It's one of the greatest adventures available to humans. But also be at… | /r/seduction | 22/04/24 03:31 PM |
| 4 | What’s your Body count?I'm picky, and greatly prefer relationships with hot, brilliant women where there's deep connection and tremendous chemistry. That's hard to find. And it took me a while of exploration to figure that out. So I'm more of a catch-and-release kind of seducer. Seduction allows you to learn about yourself and what really turns you on and what really matters for you in a relationship. It gives you understanding and freedom. But learning to be excellent in bed, and excellent in relationships are both m… | /r/seduction | 22/04/24 03:27 PM |
| -2 | I let myself be used by a woman like a fool. Dont repeat the same mistakes like I did and how to improve your feeling of self worth.Go with two. “Hey, you know I think you’re smoking, and we have a lot of fun together. But I’m dating other women, and you have a serious boyfriend, so let’s just Leo things strictly on the friends level.” Don’t pick up girls with serious boyfriends. The best case is that you manage to get them to break up, but your relationship will never last long | /r/seduction | 19/04/24 06:23 PM |
| 2 | Severe inner game work. Please helpDo this meditation every day for a month. Get in some anaerobic exercise a few days a week. You’ll be transformed, promise https://insig.ht/4sx0n05pVIb | /r/seduction | 19/04/24 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Wow.Sounds like you’ve got a pretty good candidate for causes — your apartment was dirty, and maybe didn’t show much confidence in your style. That’s something that can be fun to work on — developing one’s own style. It also seems possible that she just got spooked by being alone with some rando, even if she was hot for you. Or that she realized you were more intoxicated than she’d thought. But I want to point out that her ghosting is really not disrespectful. She’s in your home, despite only knowin… | /r/seduction | 19/04/24 01:48 PM |
| 3 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?There’s no height requirement for meeting a great woman, either. I know because I have numerous guy friends varying from 5’3” to 5”7’, I.e., short, and they all have wonderful long time girlfriends or wives. “Drop it” means recognize that it’s fake and harming you, and notice when it’s circling in your mind, and let it go rather than feeding it with emotion and extra evidence gathering. I don’t understand the rest of your argument, but I have no problem with women and would be happy to see both … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:53 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?No, But many poor people could certainly accomplish a great deal more, and make far more money, if they had a better attitude. It’s complicated because these men aren’t coming up with their defeatist ideology on their own — there’s a whole network of men supporting themselves in their belief that the world is set against them and dating is basically impossible. We don’t have power over what people say online, but we have some power over our own beliefs. And these defeatist beliefs are both harmf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:12 PM |
| 4 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I really think it’s because of the self-defeating attitude that you’re bringing to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:41 PM |
| 6 | Did she have buyers remorse?She had a bit of a wild night, and doesn’t feel like making more of it than that. She’s not looking for something more serious right now, certainly not with you. Enjoy it for what it was, and let it go. There’s no bigger meaning | /r/seduction | 17/04/24 09:20 PM |
| 3 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Maybe the problem is with America’s increasingly cartoonish norms of masculinity? I mean, American femininity is messed up, too. But if so many women would prefer to be alone than deal with an American man, it seems like the problem is American men. They could start by getting out of their heads and just paying real attention to people without judgment or some effort to manipulate them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:14 PM |
| 1 | The Audience and Pseudo-WorkplacesThis guy fucks | /r/seduction | 17/04/24 09:08 PM |
| 1 | The Audience and Pseudo-WorkplacesBe friendly, get to know everyone, including the women you’re attracted to. Take your time, as most people will come back. Got just a touch with with you like, but restrain yourself, even if she flirts back a bit. Always stop beforeshe’s gotten tired of annoyed by talking with you. Like fruit on trees, you’re slowly ripening these connections. Once the connection is ripe, you can ask the women or out or try to keep the interest while you date other women. | /r/seduction | 17/04/24 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Lost My Mind In The ProccesWhat outcome is that? | /r/seduction | 16/04/24 10:34 AM |
| 1 | Lost My Mind In The ProccesRelax, find someone you really have a lot in common with, and great mutual chemistry. Work on being an amazing lover and partner. Enjoy | /r/seduction | 16/04/24 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Help reading signsDoes your girlfriend know you’re seducing other girls? | /r/seduction | 16/04/24 01:05 AM |
| 1 | An unanswerable question from a woman:Onward! | /r/seduction | 16/04/24 12:53 AM |
| 1 | An unanswerable question from a woman:“I honestly have no idea. If we’ve got chemistry, anything’s possible” | /r/seduction | 16/04/24 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Is it okay tell a girl you have been having trouble with errections?Why not seek out a sex worker to gain experience. Be honest with her about being a virgin, as part of the vetting process. That’s a venerable tradition in Southern Europe, and there’s nowhere that produces more consistently seductive men | /r/seduction | 15/04/24 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Is it creepy to go to a club for the sole purpose of hooking up?That’s what I expected, and it changes nothing about my advice | /r/seduction | 15/04/24 10:40 PM |
| 8 | An unanswerable question from a woman:"Great question! Why don't we grab a coffee and discuss" | /r/seduction | 15/04/24 05:23 PM |
| 2 | help me understand why eye contact is such a big thingThat stuff is all made up, so don't worry about categorizing yourself unless it's helpful, somehow. But it does sound like you could use to relax and get more comfortable with yourself and the world. I'd suggest trying some meditation. Here's a great place to start -- do this every day for a month, and your life will be radically changed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdVpd-Ya7Dk | /r/seduction | 15/04/24 04:49 PM |
| 0 | help me understand why eye contact is such a big thingSo when you're having a conversation with your boss or your friends, you don't maintain eye contact for more than a couple seconds at a time? | /r/seduction | 15/04/24 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Approaching a total strangerAccept that you probably won't have mutual chemistry. But there's no way to know but to go talk with her. Next time you see her in the library or coffee-shop, or somewhere where she's sitting still, make eye contact. If she holds your eyes for a moment, even just a 1/2 second pause, especially if she also has a micro-expression of any kind, then go talk with her about some subject of potentially mutual interest. Have fun, be playful and centered. She will almost certainly not be interested. But … | /r/seduction | 15/04/24 03:57 PM |
| 0 | Is it creepy to go to a club for the sole purpose of hooking up?You're wondering whether you should do a bunch of things exclusively because there's women there and you might get lucky with one. That's kind of the definition of thirsty neediness. Keep exploring places YOU enjoy. Keep exploring your desires and joy. Center yourself in your own being, not in some prospective woman who you believe will somehow make you happy. That's the source of true self-confidence, and it's both unshakeable and very attractive to women. Given how much you're in your head, I … | /r/seduction | 15/04/24 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Kiss attempts rejected but still progressed into a long date and coming homeSounds like she likes you. Drop the kino stuff, and just wait for a point at which it feels semi-natural. Maybe at the end of the next day? https://youtu.be/ulrxrM8Sldk?si=ucIM_o2Pmq9-LY29 | /r/seduction | 15/04/24 02:26 PM |
| 4 | Is it creepy to go to a club for the sole purpose of hooking up?It’s not wrong, but women can smell thirsty neediness, and it’s like a repellent. | /r/seduction | 15/04/24 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Has finding approachable sets become the hardest part of night game?It’s all about neighborhoods. At night, go dancing, not to bars. If you prefer conversation, try coffee shops | /r/seduction | 13/04/24 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Hey. I’m having a hard timeI’ve found the tantric path of acceptance of, even surrender to, reality to be very helpful. What’s happening is true, and the rest is just fantasy. Maybe check out Tantric Quest, which is pretty great and a fun read. Or Existential Kink, if you have the discernment to sort the bogus metaphysics out from the good stuff. | /r/seduction | 13/04/24 11:17 PM |
| 2 | why does it seem like the less energy a man puts into women, the better his life gets? such an enigmaI suspect it’s a healthy, evolved response. Women are more attracted to guys who aren’t needy and thirsty | /r/seduction | 13/04/24 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Hey. I’m having a hard timeTake some time to yourself. Meditate, reflect, exercise, center yourself. | /r/seduction | 13/04/24 10:57 PM |
| 1 | How do y'all shave down there?Women don’t really want you all shaved. I use an epilator on the shaft, and a beard trimmer on the rest. | /r/seduction | 13/04/24 10:55 PM |
| 20 | First Cold Approach LayPerfect — respect, responsiveness, authentic expression, some bravery and skill, and the right woman. So happy for you! | /r/seduction | 13/04/24 07:02 PM |
| -5 | How to get better at kissing/less anxious?This is the gold standard: https://youtu.be/SKT1ER4EF-E?si=xyln5-pcJKPUOv7X | /r/seduction | 13/04/24 04:59 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys talk about with womenTalk about subjects of genuine mutual interest. That’s what the initial conversation is seeking out. If you can’t find subjects of genuine mutual interest, then you are not a good match, there is not chemistry, and you should go talk to someone else. | /r/seduction | 13/04/24 03:12 PM |
| 1 | How can I tell who I can attract?Maybe, but I have yet to meet that woman. Looks will get her to come to the door, but it won’t get you in the door | /r/seduction | 12/04/24 08:56 PM |
| 1 | How can I tell who I can attract?No, I’m just referring to BEFORE you talk to a woman. Once you talk to her, signs of interest are usually flirting or having a spark in her eye. But waitresses flirt for money, so take it with a grain of salt in that case | /r/seduction | 12/04/24 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Need some real, ACTUAL pointers for getting more Second Dates.Do YOU feel like there’s a connection? I’m rarely surprised if I get rejected after a date, because it’s clear there’s not mutual chemistry. | /r/seduction | 12/04/24 08:21 PM |
| 0 | How can I tell who I can attract?Generally, no. Unless they have reason to be aware of your reputation, women usually don’t really know if they’re attracted to you until you start talking to them. But if your eyes meet, and they hold your eyes for more than about half a second, that usually means they’re attracted enough to you that they won’t automatically turn you down. You just need to get used to being rejected. | /r/seduction | 12/04/24 06:57 PM |
| 0 | Bad with planning datesEither invite her for coffee, or for something more fun and adventurous than a drink at the bar. | /r/seduction | 12/04/24 06:46 PM |
| 0 | How can I tell who I can attract?The way to know who you can attract is to talk to them, flirt a bit, and see if their eyes sparkle or they flirt back. If they do, they're attracted to you, and you can ask them on a coffee date. If they don't, then they're not likely to be attracted to you, and you should assume that they will never become attracted to you. It's that simple | /r/seduction | 12/04/24 06:12 PM |
| 7 | Any tips on how to improve my weak ego?“I have girls that will occasionally stare at me and talk to me, act interested, etc but then other times I can accidentally look at a girl and they’ll look away.” That is literally the way it is for the handsomest, most famous men on earth. It’s mostly just a matter of proportions. Sounds like they’re plenty interested in you. By the way, women will think a very handsome man is a creep, if they stare. If she holds your eyes for more than about half a second, and there’s intent, then that usuall… | /r/seduction | 12/04/24 04:38 PM |
| 1 | I’m going for itIt’s all about leading with clarity of desire, but remaining highly responsive. Then play. Play with in and out, close and further, hot and cold. Don’t do it like an asshole, do it like you’re children playing a game together. https://youtu.be/ulrxrM8Sldk?si=AJV6EB51XuNNJ1JX | /r/seduction | 12/04/24 02:15 PM |
| 2 | Is it over for me?You sound like you’re heading for sorrow, at best. Center yourself, and relax attachment to phenomena. No one can make you happy or unhappy, except your own mind. | /r/seduction | 11/04/24 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Is it possible for a man to truly understand friend zoningI’m a romantic in the restaurant, and a tiger in the bedroom. It took me until my mid twenties to embrace the primal side of myself. It was a kind of shadow work to integrate my desire, and it’s been incredibly rewarding. Sounds like your shadow is the caring, sensual boy who allows himself to be vulnerable with women. Get to know that guy, and give him space to be himself — you’ll be a better partner and a better lover and a better friend to women | /r/seduction | 11/04/24 11:20 AM |
| 3 | She broke up with me yesterday, today I lashed out, is there any hope?You can totally recover from this! Give yourself some time, work out and meditate for a few months or until you’re ready, then start going out there and talking to women. If there’s mutual chemistry, get her number and take her to coffee. Do that with a few women, keeping things light until you meet someone you really like who really likes you. You may look back at this women as someone you once loved, or even still love, but whose central role in your life is happily and completely over. | /r/seduction | 11/04/24 03:54 AM |
| 3 | Is it possible for a man to truly understand friend zoningI have many female friends who would receive very high ratings on the pictures, if they were foolish enough to post them somewhere. I do not want to sleep with (almost) any of them. I’m just not that attracted to them, though we’re good friends so I suppose we could have a good compassionate relationship. But I want a hot erotic relationship that also includes a deep friendship dimension. Seems to me that, if you think you would have sex with any woman you’d be friends with, that means you’re no… | /r/seduction | 11/04/24 12:13 AM |
| -1 | guys i need help ...... she's too beautiful and high statusRelax, flirt with her a bit. If she flirts back, ask for her number and meet for coffee or something nonchalant. If she doesn’t flirt back, let her go and find someone that you’ve got mutual chemistry with. | /r/seduction | 10/04/24 09:01 PM |
| 1 | How do I finally drop the soft nice guy personality and become a bad boy?Start by being kind, not nice. That is to say, help people because you want to see them with less pain and more joy, not because of some social obligation or calculated return on investment Then, start practicing expressing your desire. If you’re interested in a woman, don’t hide it. Flirt and show her you want her (but not with outright sex talk, etc. boundary-testing subtlety is seductive). It’s essential to always have her consent. But rather than asking for consent all the time, which many w… | /r/seduction | 10/04/24 07:28 PM |
| 13 | I trained an AI to help me flirt betterHey, if you recognize that seduction and flirting need to continue throughout the entire relationship, until you're ready to break up, then you're already way ahead of the pack. | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 03:34 PM |
| 4 | How do you stop feeling insecure about interracial dating?You'll draw more attention, because it's less common and still a bit taboo. People judge things as attractive or aversive, good or bad, whatever, CONSTANTLY. So you'll have some people judging you harshly. So what? Take the judgements and your doubts and self-consciousness and integrate them. Play with your discomfort with the racial dynamic by making it explicit and exploring the taboo and your own discomfort. Have some fun with it. Next time you get a nasty look while you're holding hands with… | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 03:29 PM |
| 10 | Is this a hard no?VERY HARD no. Women are always afraid that a guy who gets rejected will get angry and lash out at her, or get obsessed and stalk her, or worse. Because it happens all the time. Be a gentleman, treat her as a friend, and look for love elsewhere. If you treat her well, she’ll give you cred with the other women in the office | /r/seduction | 08/04/24 11:40 PM |
| 5 | Observation: The women who post relationship goals type of content on their social: are the Most active and practicing hoes.Of course I have. Just never a hoe. | /r/seduction | 08/04/24 04:50 PM |
| 7 | Observation: The women who post relationship goals type of content on their social: are the Most active and practicing hoes.I’ve never met a “hoe.” I’ve met women who love sex more, and those who love sex less. I’ve met more and less confident women, more and less afraid women, more and less centered and happy women. The women who post lots of pictures of perfect, happy, stable couples and etc, are often the most unhappy and unstable. They’re more likely to take more extreme risks to try to find some way to change things. Treat them with kindness | /r/seduction | 08/04/24 11:42 AM |
| 22 | Venezuelan girl wants tip for sex is that normal?No, you don’t need to be loaded to date a beautiful, brilliant woman. But you’ll need to have something she likes a lot — great sense of humor for her, or you’re brilliant or make amazing art or are just the most fun guy wherever you go, etc. Gorgeous women don’t want money, they want to be happy. And if she’s from a third world country, she’ll be more interested in your money because she and her family likely come from a situation where money is a very real issue, in a way you’ll likely never u… | /r/seduction | 08/04/24 11:35 AM |
| 1 | Ghosted her for a day then she does this. How do I respond?If you knew her from when you were young, you’ll run into her at dinner point. Go for it then, if it’s viable. Drop the texting, it’s over | /r/seduction | 07/04/24 09:22 PM |
| 4 | When you believe it, she believes itIt’s only recently weird. And almost all women vastly prefer it over OLD. Just be attentive to her, and take the hint if she’s not feeling it after a minute | /r/seduction | 06/04/24 06:51 PM |
| 1 | I spent 5 days in Europe with a girl I am hooking up withOf course you should talk to her! I'd suggest that you offer to go visit her, next time. Or the two of you meet somewhere and travel together. It sounds like you've already talked about how much you each liked each other from the beginning. What's the hesitation? | /r/seduction | 02/04/24 04:12 PM |
| 2 | She had sex with me in the first date and now regrets it.Exactly. It’s an adventure that you’re having together. Go at her pace, without being pushy. But don’t pretend to be something you’re not — you’re hot for her, and that’s great. If she’s no longer hot for you, that’s ok, too. You’re ultimately looking for someone with whom you have persistent mutual chemistry, and a lot of fun. | /r/seduction | 01/04/24 08:03 PM |
| 190 | She had sex with me in the first date and now regrets it.Relax, assure her that you care for her and are interested in who she is. Stop the pushing and the going further, and just be present with her, and a little spicy. Ask her about her fears, and listen without judging or shaming. | /r/seduction | 01/04/24 07:10 PM |
| 1 | What to do when a girl says she has a boyfriendTotally agree, though in prefer something like: “Of course you do. And he’s a lucky man.” | /r/seduction | 30/03/24 05:28 PM |
| 12 | I can’t get over a girl, is there anyway to regain her interest?Go start dating other women | /r/seduction | 26/03/24 08:07 PM |
| 4 | Tips to turn her on more.Massages, flowers, spicy physical affection with regularity, clean sheets, a humidifier that projects essential oils, for scent. But the key thing is learning to make her really come. You need to get her into present, sense experience, and out of her planning and worries. Then worship her pussy with your hands and mouth. Once you penetrate her, if you’re close to coming by she’s still enjoying herself, just slow down and rest inside her. Look in her eyes. Or pull out and touch her or spank her o… | /r/seduction | 26/03/24 06:38 PM |
| 1 | It feels like the seduction community was in its prime 10 years ago and now there are hardly any personalitiesJudging by this little community, the seduction community is way healthier than it used to be. It can be super hot to instrumentalize someone during sex, sometimes, if everybody’s into that sort of thing. But the old pick-up artists really tended to advocate for instrumentalization of both oneself and the obscure object of desire. Not at all satisfying, and often harmful for everyone involved | /r/seduction | 26/03/24 12:14 PM |
| 2 | Looks wont keep the girl. Money wont keep the girl.I love modern women | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 09:18 PM |
| 23 | There is generally speaking two types of guysThis is not an effective clustering of men into two types. The vast majority of men are in both classes. That said, yes, we all know that women often prefer confident, centered guys who know what they want and go for it without getting stuck in their head | /r/seduction | 12/03/24 10:50 PM |
| 8 | Why is it that a girl will desire you more when you’re toxic?People are attracted to familiar patterns, even if they don’t like them, because they are fairly predictable. But there’s also much to be said for a man who knows what he wants and reaches for it without apology. Unfortunately, some of those guys are toxic, too, but women will compromise a lot for a centered guy who knows his desire | /r/seduction | 12/03/24 05:42 PM |
| 7 | What do you do the next day after a one night stand?Yeah, overuse of porn will typically do that. Otherwise you’re probably too stressed. Learn to relax deeply. Meditation is great. Also, get a scrip for cialis, cause why not? | /r/seduction | 11/03/24 10:49 PM |
| 6 | What do you do the next day after a one night stand?Tell them that they have to stroke your cock while you’re pleasuring them. When your cock is hard, you’re a much better lover. Tell her that. Or she needs to stroke your cock after. It might also be that you’re doing it out of obligation, and people can tell whether you’re really enjoying it or just counting the seconds until you’re done. Personally, I like to have sex for hours, and will frequently be going back and forth between vaginal penetration and other forms of pleasure. It’s not about t… | /r/seduction | 11/03/24 10:26 PM |
| 96 | What do you do the next day after a one night stand?Yes. Once you’ve had sex with her, the ball is in your court. If she ghosts or rejects you, don’t take it hard, but do work on your sexual skills and attention to her pleasure | /r/seduction | 11/03/24 04:35 PM |
| 1 | easily jealous of other guys who get a lot of women.Comparison is the thief of joy. No, really, it’s almost destined to make you miserable. Try it. Pick something that you own. Now consider it in comparison to the best of that type of thing. Really sit in that comparison, considering element by element how this other thing is better. You begin to feel like your thing is practically worthless. And you start to feel like, if you could just get your jams of that other thing, you’d REALLY have something then. But if/when you save up enough money for … | /r/seduction | 11/03/24 05:17 AM |
| 1 | How to trust a womanVulnerability is a bit tricky. Women absolutely want you to be vulnerable. But they also want you to remain deeply grounded and centered. And they rarely want to be your nursemaid. And the ones who do want to be your nursemaid will tend to trap you in a state of helplessness. Women generally want men to be vulnerable by speaking frankly about how they’re feeling and what they want. Speak from your center. Then listen from your center, absorbing everything while not getting thrown off balance. If… | /r/seduction | 11/03/24 05:01 AM |
| 8 | What are some tips that you wish you knew earlier when it comes to dating/seduction?I suspect you’re blessed with more than just good looks. I’m very good looking, and all it’s ever done for me is get women to look my way and give me a first opportunity. That’s big, but far from huge. For years, it didn’t matter at all, because I was too stuck in my head most of the time to actually be present with anyone, and women would sense it immediately. Once I got out of my head and into my body and senses, I found I could still only get 1/3 women, at best. Which, sure, is amazing, but n… | /r/seduction | 06/03/24 06:47 PM |
| 3 | Morally conflicted when it comes to seducing innocent/shy girlsWomen, like men, are curious to explore their sexuality and enjoy sexual pleasure. But they’re afraid of being harmed by men, becoming pregnant, or being slut-shamed (or murdered). So don’t lie, be kind and respectful of her curiosity, and learn to give deep sexual pleasure. | /r/seduction | 05/03/24 02:22 AM |
| -3 | Yes, You Can Approach Women In the GymExcellent post | /r/seduction | 03/03/24 10:39 PM |
| 3 | How do people manage to have sex with someone they don't know well?The essential thing for many people (certainly for myself) is not how long you’ve known someone, or even how well. It’s how much chemistry we have. You can think of chemistry as a measure of how much one wants to have more and deeper experiences with the person. Sometimes, circumstances (such as the end of a vacation, or having a primary partner in nonmonogamy) result in not being able to go deeper with that person. In some cases, you can become friends with a little spice. In other cases, you n… | /r/seduction | 03/03/24 06:56 PM |
| 15 | Why Good Looking Men Struggle With WomenThere’s no reason to choose. But if you had to choose, you’d be much better off working on yourself and developing emotional insight and social networks and self- confidence, than working on looks. Looks alone will get you dates off OLD, and will get you laid occasionally by drunk girls at the end of the night. | /r/seduction | 03/03/24 02:32 AM |
| 1 | How can associating your self worth with being able to date and have a girlfriend affect you?Relax, start meditation and exercising, if you don’t already. Look around your region, and pick out the most interesting, cool, cutting-edge group that’s happening. Join them and become part of the organizing. | /r/seduction | 01/03/24 10:10 PM |
| 9 | Question, what’s one or two things you’ve done to massively change your dating game?Probably you went from looking like a dude too stuck in his head to take care of his body, let alone anything else, to a guy who’s connected with his physicality and, through it, the world. There’s few things less erotic, or worse in bed, than a guy who’s stuck in his head | /r/seduction | 29/02/24 01:25 PM |
| 4 | My advice on how to seduce a women after receiving a bunch of messages asking.This guy probably isn’t in med school, he just says that in his tinder profile. Why not just go to prostitutes? Way less gross than lying a bunch to women in order to get them to let you put your penis into the hole between their legs. | /r/seduction | 27/02/24 05:30 PM |
| 4 | R seduction is the best reddit and heres why?I have zero problem with women, and a great deal of pleasure. And I don’t need to lie to them | /r/seduction | 23/02/24 04:29 PM |
| 5 | R seduction is the best reddit and heres why?Yes, I’m aware that there’s a great deal of bad advice for men on the internet. I would include your advice as among that | /r/seduction | 23/02/24 01:05 PM |
| 12 | R seduction is the best reddit and heres why?I’m sure this works, but it’s honestly pretty dirty. You’re basically lying to these women, over and over, because you know it will make them devoted to you. Then you use them and dump them. That’s very different from strategizing and optimizing but remaining basically honest. I generally recommend this sub for the reasons you describe — it’s full of honest and good advice for guys trying to learn to open a woman’s heart and arouse her pussy. That’s all taught to guys in many cultures while they… | /r/seduction | 23/02/24 12:51 PM |
| 1 | How to friend-zone women you are trying to seduce?This does work, but I’m not sure it works if it’s not genuine. Also, not sure if it works with women who aren’t super hot, or much hotter than the guy. One of the most beautiful women I ever dated (she was a ringer for Angelina Jolie) got sit up by this. We went out a few times, not even sleeping together. We had amazing intellectual chemistry, and I found her physically VERY attractive. But I gradually realized that we didn’t really have erotic/romantic chemistry. So I told her we should just b… | /r/seduction | 21/02/24 04:02 PM |
| 34 | Looksmaxxing Community is just Black Pill in disguise.Looksmaxxing seems to be done almost exclusively by people with some form of pathological body dysmorphia. That said, I’m very happy about the general move towards more care in men’s aesthetics in America. American men have had, by far, the sloppiest, ugliest aesthetic standards in the world for at least 30 years or so. We look and act like spoiled toddlers. Then we wonder why women think we’re assholes and don’t want to play with us? | /r/seduction | 15/02/24 02:45 PM |
| 22 | Dancing with girls at clubIf she faces you, consider taking her hand to connect. Be loose and fun. If she’s enjoying, take her other hand or her waist. Enjoy, then break it off before she gets bored or weirded out. You can come back later | /r/seduction | 10/02/24 04:48 PM |
| 3 | Why optimizing your looks won't get you more womenWorking out a good amount, taking care of one Ms hair and beard and nails and etc, and developing a personal style of clothing, are all great for attracting women and joyful, productive practices for anyone. But looks are way less important to women than most guys think. Unfortunately, because OLD is basically just pictures and some canned text, looks are the primary criteria for OLD. So get offline | /r/seduction | 08/02/24 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Can an average man have chances with a higher-status woman?Definitely not true | /r/seduction | 08/02/24 02:02 AM |
| 36 | Suddenly, I have a lots of female friends... Good thing or?Great thing! Women are people too! Some of them you have mutual chemistry with, and want to move forward. The only problem is when you hide the fact that you’re crushing on one of your friends. Either make her clearly aware of your desire/attraction, or cut it off. | /r/seduction | 02/02/24 08:56 PM |
| 2 | Why I struggled with women as an engineerAbsolutely! It’s all about presence and warmth and a little spice. | /r/seduction | 31/01/24 06:47 PM |
| 1 | What do you currently lean on for success with women?That’s an excellent start. Now you need to learn to embrace and pursue your desire. Playful joking and flirting are great ways to signal your sexual interest while demonstrativo that you’re restrained enough to let her be comfortable | /r/seduction | 30/01/24 05:50 PM |
| 1 | How to have masculine “energy” in a charismatic way?Maybe take a few Qi Gong or Tai Chi classes | /r/seduction | 26/01/24 12:15 PM |
| 11 | How to have masculine “energy” in a charismatic way?Ground your energy in your Dan tien. Hold gently to that deep, grounded center as you engage. It’s best to practice a lot in normal conversations, first | /r/seduction | 26/01/24 01:22 AM |
| 1 | If a woman likes you, she will let you knowThe advice is good in terms of responses, but the expectation is false. Women may be unlikely to speak frankly about their desire or, even more, its lack. But just because they’re not super responsive doesn’t mean they’ve gotten cold feet — there’s lots of possible explanations. Nevertheless, if you get all weird and pushy about it, you’ll almost always push her away | /r/seduction | 21/01/24 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Am I attractive enough to do well online? (Asian male)This is terrible advice. Really, you are more than physically attractive enough to attract amazing women. Sure, gaining a bit of weight might be good, and working on your style to find what works for you. But mostly you just need to dig into yourself and find out who you are and what you really want and what’s really true. Talk to people, especially beautiful women. Maybe take up meditation and read/practice Urban Tantra. It’s all learning, so don’t take anything too seriously. You’ll gain confi… | /r/seduction | 13/01/24 02:53 PM |
| 3 | What i learnedThis is like 80% of it. Nice summary | /r/seduction | 26/12/23 03:17 PM |
| 12 | Women really hate hearing noAnyone who's ever been pursued after saying "NO" should be well aware of how counter-productive those efforts at subsequent persuasion will be | /r/seduction | 18/12/23 04:36 PM |
| 1 | The number of sexual activities with orgasm in long-term relationships for heterosexual and lesbian womenBut someone without low desire for oranges rarely wants oranges, no matter the context. Someone with responsive desire for oranges rarely wants oranges when asked, but almost always wants oranges when you squeeze the peel near their nose. Big difference. Guys need to learn to seduce their wives ands girlfriends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 11:16 AM |
| 1 | The number of sexual activities with orgasm in long-term relationships for heterosexual and lesbian womenThen why can’t you distinguish responsive desire from low desire? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 08:26 PM |
| 1 | The number of sexual activities with orgasm in long-term relationships for heterosexual and lesbian womenNah, you’re just misunderstanding how women’s desire often works | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 10:52 AM |
| 1 | The number of sexual activities with orgasm in long-term relationships for heterosexual and lesbian womenNah, women love sex as much as men. But they don’t always have spontaneous desire the same way — they tend to become aroused when someone they like tries to seduce them. If both women have responsive desire, then there’s no spark to get things started, after a while If you’re curious about the subject of women’s desire, ignore the speculations of frustrated men, and go read the research in Come as You Are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 04:00 PM |
| 39 | Game gets better when you stop watering dead plants.The man determines the direction, and the woman decides whether she’ll go along and determines the pace | /r/seduction | 17/10/23 04:14 AM |
| 154 | Game gets better when you stop watering dead plants.Absolutely. For whatever innate reason, a girl signaling that she’s pulling back usually produces a frantic and desperate response in men to try to secure her. That basically never works. On the other hand, a girl signaling that she’s excited and available often produces a response in men where they suddenly have second thoughts and want to pull back. Both of those responses have their value, but you need to see through them and get over them. The right response is more often to mirror the woman… | /r/seduction | 16/10/23 11:44 PM |
| 1 | 50 women in one day50 is manic desperation. If you need practice, try 5 per day for 10 days | /r/seduction | 09/10/23 04:51 PM |
| 3 | "Be authentic" is terrible adviceWhat makes you so miserable that’s so insolvable? | /r/seduction | 08/10/23 09:53 PM |
| 1 | "Be authentic" is terrible adviceWhat’s the problem? | /r/seduction | 08/10/23 08:59 PM |
| 8 | "Be authentic" is terrible adviceJesus man, go sort yourself out rather than finding someone to share your misery with! | /r/seduction | 08/10/23 08:04 PM |
| 2 | Have you ever seen a handsome and successful man struggling with his romantic/sexual relationships? And why?All the time. Sure, they can find SOMEONE who will have sex with them, but often not the women they want. And a guy’s looks + status are pretty much wholly unrelated to the quality of their relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 10:54 PM |
| 2 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themI find it’s unnecessary to disclose that I have other simultaneous partners, in the midst of an orgy. But you do you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 07:37 PM |
| – | CMV: Most married mothers are not working 40+ hours a week , that is a myth that needs to dieCompletely agree with this. Some people love it, like with any job. But it’s soul chorusing and mind- numbing work for many, many people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 07:05 PM |
| 0 | Do you think it's possible that some couples divorce when they shouldn't?No, no secular person ever questions whether they’re making the wrong choice to get divorced | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 06:18 PM |
| 3 | CMV : Women have become introspective about their dating dynamics with men, but ironically over the wrong thingMake yourself interesting. Then find someone who's interested in you. If you're genuinely interested in them, too, then voila! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 03:56 PM |
| 0 | Thoughts on Passport Bros?Yeah, if he doesn’t have the patience or skills to handle a woman on her own terms, there’s still plenty of poor women happy to exchange their favors for stability. Hopefully everyone comes out a little better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Women’s preferences in men aren’t as unique as they think they areModels. High heels. Etc. But if you really think many people do not find a woman’s stature to be related to her status, I’m indifferent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 08:50 PM |
| – | CMV People that dont have real life Experience/functioning Social Life should not talk about Dating Strategy, it is just annoying how deluded those takes are.Completely. It’s ready doesn’t seeing the depth of delusion of these guys. And the degree to which they cling to it!?! What’s the comfort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Women’s preferences in men aren’t as unique as they think they areSo what did I write that you’re disputing? That there’s prestige in dating tall women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Women’s preferences in men aren’t as unique as they think they areWhatever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Women’s preferences in men aren’t as unique as they think they areJust because you believe I meant X, doesn’t mean I meant X. Try using the principle of generosity of interpretation, and you’ll find that a lot of people make a lot more sense than you used to think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 06:57 PM |
| 1 | We often talk about how modern culture discards masculinity, but we hardly touch on how it discards femininityAmerican masculinity and femininity are terrible. So good riddance. I love that people today can explore the gender expression that feels right for them in different contexts. At its best, it’s liberating and playful. But I agree that the outcome is far too often a reduction to a kind of homogeneous grey androgyny. That’s fine for some, but is that really an authentic expression of so many? I wish we were having more interesting discussions and experiments around what masculinity can be. I do be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 06:53 PM |
| 0 | Women’s preferences in men aren’t as unique as they think they areI didn’t say anything otherwise. It’s just slightly better than for short men. Every form of prestige is all in your head | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 06:03 PM |
| -2 | Women’s preferences in men aren’t as unique as they think they areBeing quite short definitely limits your options as a man. Many women like to feel small, or protected. Hard to do that with a man of similar height. Being very tall as a woman is somewhat similarly difficult. But because there's prestige in dating tall women, they seem to have a somewhat easier time of it. That said, I'm very confident that women get aroused at a much wider variety of traits than men do. There's patterns, but there's massive variation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Are women's standards too high as a result of porn?Women have high standards because they have the power to choose their partners, now. And they end up doing most of the work of relationships, so they’re wary of jumping into one. The other big thing is really that everyone has become so online, these days, and it’s made the last couple generations rather timid and alienated from their bodies and the messy world of other human bodies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Am I wrong in saying that if a person has a requirement or preference that he wants a virgin partner but he himself is not a virgin that is not hypocritical?Really? What crazy definition of monogamy are you using that would make your statement true for what people actually do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 12:31 AM |
| 0 | “Women” are bad at marriage.Marriage is great, and very useful for planning, wealth creation, estates, and children. After more than 15 years, my wife and I have so much sex we have to plan no-sex nights, and usually fail. But men have to give up a lot of comfort to be able to stay seductive, and they have to keep seducing, and surprising, their wives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 08:21 PM |
| 3 | Red Pillers: What do you actually consider to be sufficient evidence of r*pe and SA?Witness testimony isn’t perfect. It needs to be evaluated for truthfulness. Most of the false convictions that I know of have been due to prosecution knowingly hiding evidence and coercing witnesses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 12:54 PM |
| 5 | Red Pillers: What do you actually consider to be sufficient evidence of r*pe and SA?Witness testimony is the most common form of evidence in most every case. Physical evidence is rarely conclusive or available in the ways that we think from watching TV shows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 12:30 PM |
| 1 | I feel a large part of the problem with dating is extroverts and a lack of social unity and connection.Cars and computers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 11:54 AM |
| 1 | Am I wrong in saying that if a person has a requirement or preference that he wants a virgin partner but he himself is not a virgin that is not hypocritical?Pair bonding is natural and evolved for complex mammals. Monogamy is unnatural | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 11:15 AM |
| 0 | Do women not mind past relationship baggage in man, compared to vice versa?The issues are trauma and familiarity. But so much of women's traumatic experience involves men who are not their boyfriends -- friends, acquaintances, family, sometimes even strangers. The best people are always working to unlearn emotional and intellectual over-generalizations that close us up from the world. And most of the familiarity problems are related to the practices of her parents. If they constantly shouted at each other, for instance, she probably didn't like that but still feels odd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 12:20 AM |
| 2 | CMV: It’s not misogynistic or controlling for men to expect/ask the women they date or marry to not dress like they are still singleI buy my wife clothes, all the time. She’s incredibly hot, and I love to go out with her when she’s wearing nearly nothing. Turns us both on, like crazy. I love when men get hard as she stands walks in front of them, or when we’re out dancing. The trick is to be justifiably confident enough to enjoy it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 08:42 PM |
| 0 | We live in an age of equality but women's sexuality still hasn't caught up.The percentage of women who want to be 24/7 submissive is very small. From my vague experience, I’d guess it’s less common in women than in men. Again, the problem is the binaries. Forget the nonsense indoctrination, and do what you want. Then find someone who wants that too. That’s the beauty of modernity — we’re not all trapped in some adolescent teenager’s conceptual box. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 08:34 PM |
| 0 | We live in an age of equality but women's sexuality still hasn't caught up.Sure, some women love to be submissive 24/7. And some love to dominate 24/7. What's your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 08:13 PM |
| 0 | We live in an age of equality but women's sexuality still hasn't caught up.Plenty of women love to be submissive sluts in the bedroom. That doesn't mean they don't also want to rule the boardroom. It's entirely possible to be dominant in many ways, and also very progressive in behavior and respect. The only contradiction is in the minds of Americans, who can't seem to think outside of absurd binaries | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 08:04 PM |
| 5 | CMV : There’s nothing wrong at all with modern dating. Women are just attracted to less men.I believe that’s right. But it’s worth noting that American men are doing masculinity remarkably poorly, in general. The space of masculine performance is infinite, but Americans seem stuck between the thug and the sissy. Go to Southern Europe and pay attention. They have problems, too, particularly along assumptions of patriarchy, but there’s so much to learn | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Am I wrong in saying that if a person has a requirement or preference that he wants a virgin partner but he himself is not a virgin that is not hypocritical?“The person you love [is] not having sex with other people”, and neither are you = monogamy. But why does it matter that they’ve never had sex with other people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 09:54 AM |
| 1 | Question for Redpill : Why do you care that women and society lied to you?I tell my sons — off river got dirty teeth, or long, dirty fingernails, people are going to think you’re gross and don’t take care of yourself. And they’ll be right. So there some general truths about human nature of use in the world of dating. But not so many that they should form a theory. Just go out there. Fuck around and find out. Like math, you learn it by doing it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Am I wrong in saying that if a person has a requirement or preference that he wants a virgin partner but he himself is not a virgin that is not hypocritical?I believe it’s a long way in that direction. For instance, I’d bet that pedophiles are a strict subset of the somewhat larger set of guys who really want to have sex with virgins. What’s the obsession with virgins that makes it different? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 11:46 PM |
| -1 | Not all women have such ridiculously high standards of attractiveness in menAs is well known, some people value money and security more highly than others. Moreover, the marginal utility of a dollar is much higher for people with $100 in the bank than for those with $1,000,000 in the bank. It turns out that women don’t generally value money that highly, or they wouldn’t be so picky in the west, where they are largely secure. But they value it highly enough when they’re otherwise very poor that they will marry a not terrible guy to secure a future without serious monetar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 11:36 PM |
| -2 | Am I wrong in saying that if a person has a requirement or preference that he wants a virgin partner but he himself is not a virgin that is not hypocritical?Wanting a virgin is gross pedo stuff. Get out of your head, and pay attention to people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Studies show the higher the IQ a man has the less attractive he is to womenWomen love smart men, if their intelligence gives them some power over the world. They generally do not like men who are stuck in their head, and cut off from their body and emotions and senses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachThat hasn’t been my experience, remotely. Lots of people have care for others, particularly women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 09:25 PM |
| 0 | Is this whole 'stay in your lane' ideology in dating, healthy and fair, or the opposite?Forget all these rules. Just talk to people like they're human beings, ideally about things of mutual interest. If there's chemistry, go for a date and see if you can build that further. If not, make a friend or be on your way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachJesus. The idea of actual kindness is completely foreign, and then you think it's looks that make it hard to get women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 06:20 PM |
| 3 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachReality — it’s not what you think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 04:53 PM |
| 3 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachLook, it’s great to enforce boundaries. But you also need to signal to people what you want from them, if you want anything. And what you don’t want. So sure, go tell the girl you’ve got a crush on that you really like her, and that you’d be happy to do all kind of nice things for her if she gets into a relationship with you. But if she doesn’t find you attractive, you can’t spend all this energy on her. Then enforce that boundary. Or don’t tell her that, but go up to her and tell her you think … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 04:52 PM |
| 6 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachYeah, to be king you have to be willing to do terrible things. But who wants to be king? Not me! Being kind is highly regarded by people in general, and women in particular. Not every one. You will not end up being designated as a “nice guy” for simply being kind to women. You become a nice guy when you are nice to women in the hope of getting sex. Unless you’re very obvious that that’s why you’re being nice — that can be a fun way to flirt, if you can play it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 04:46 PM |
| 4 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachYour tit for tat mentality is the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachKind people can be taken advantage of, sometimes. It’s important to learn to draw boundaries, and enforce them. Genuine kindness — the sort that doesn’t expect anything in return — is a thing of great value. Nice guys are a dime a dozen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 04:24 PM |
| 4 | is anyone else who is attending college afraid because of all the rape cases going on?…This has been happening in colleges for a very long time. It’s just that women are now finding their voices to speak out about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 04:15 PM |
| 3 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachYou can just be an actually kind person and people will often respect you for it — it’s a great method for making friends that you don’t ever fuck! And it’s great to be kind to women you do want to fuck! What’s often criticized, rightly, is guys being “nice,” and pretending to be her friend, merely because they’re hoping it will let them get into a girl’s pants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 03:50 PM |
| 8 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachWhen women don’t respond well to more obvious flirting early on, you really have two options: 1) stop engaging with that woman — you clearly don’t have chemistry, or 2) become her friend, knowing it will just be a friendship, at best. There’s no double bind — she didn’t like you. Just get over it and decide whether you want to be her actual friend, or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 03:46 PM |
| 1 | CMV : A lot of men feel like a date went really well when it didn’t. They made a friend.And if they had a great time, recognize that there wasn’t chemistry, and can let go of their desire to make Chemistry happen, they might be able to make a genuinely wonderful new friend. Just don’t be the nice guy, and you might well end up finding you DO have chemistry with one of her girlfriends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 01:59 PM |
| 3 | CMV: People do not want to date easily available people. Average men can't easily get average women, but average women can easily get average men.Men peacock and women choose. What’s new? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 12:06 PM |
| 3 | CMV : Refusing to change to attract women out of some sort of principle is only holding you back and not proving a thing to anybodyThe fact that you find the activities and attitudes odious, which women tend to find attractive, is precisely why you’re having so much trouble with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 08:36 PM |
| 1 | 'The Best For The Child', Possible Solutions Moving ForwardDivorce is usually better for the child than living with parents who fight constantly, are miserable and resentful, or are abusive. Give women the power — they seem to make much better long-term choices, particularly where the interests of others are involved | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 06:21 PM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeComplain away! I’m sure it’s getting the results you want! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 04:39 PM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeBut it’s not wrong. No one is doing anything to you, or denying you of any right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 04:34 PM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeWork on the things you can work on, and relax. That’s more than enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 04:31 PM |
| 2 | Anyone here regularly visit sex workers?Don’t you have the same desire, too? To get money? So I guess you’re a gold digger? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 04:30 PM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeIf you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. But then stop complaining, too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 04:29 PM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeBecause that’s simply not what’s happening. Don’t mistake OLD for reality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 04:28 PM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeIndeed, as women gain power to make their own choices, men find that they need to step up their game or be left behind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 01:46 PM |
| – | When a woman says "I love guys with long hair!" she's picturing a bearded masculine man to go with it.The signal is in your bearing, and how you carry the long hair. You don't need to look all masculine. You can do long hair and fingernail polish and get tons of girls. But if you don't have a fierceness to your character, long hair might make you look too feminine for many women. Think of David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust. That guy got all the women (and many of the men, for a while). Or Marilyn Manson. It's all about how you pull it off, or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 01:28 PM |
| 3 | Anyone here regularly visit sex workers?Whatever. Gold diggers are like nice guys. They deceive about their desires in the hopes that they will get what they want by that deception. Sex workers are not gold diggers, because there’s no deception. They’re just women who sell men sex, seven though they don’t necessarily want it themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 12:53 PM |
| 2 | The dinner club. Do you think it’s real on daring apps or imagined by salty people. If real, do you think it’s fair play or foul play.Or the vastly more likely scenario — she found you vaguely unpleasant from the time she met you, and just put her head down and grinded through. Most people consider me fairly charming with women, but there’s been numerous times where we just don’t connect and it’s painful | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 04:59 AM |
| 8 | The dinner club. Do you think it’s real on daring apps or imagined by salty people. If real, do you think it’s fair play or foul play.Exactly. I’m sure there’s a few people who think a $40 meal is worth sitting there being ogled by some bore for two hours. But since she could provide herself with the same sustenance for $7 or so, I doubt that it’s prevalent enough that any of is will ever meet such a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 03:13 AM |
| 1 | What do guys do if they want virgin women but cannot get them?We’ll, that’s what I was talking about when I said “practice” in the first place. You were the one who took that to mean sexual practice. Again, if experience is such an impediment, pay for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 01:10 AM |
| 22 | The dinner club. Do you think it’s real on daring apps or imagined by salty people. If real, do you think it’s fair play or foul play.I’m sure there’s a few poor girls who are disgusted with men and find this amusing. But it’s like begging on the corner for money — it’s a hell of a hard way to get cash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 01:08 AM |
| 1 | CMV: "Emotional vulnerability" is true, albeit misleadingThis is very true. Emotional vulnerability means that you’re willing to show your weaknesses. But don’t do it right away. And don’t try to use your girlfriend as a therapist — that will ALWAYS turn her against you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 01:02 AM |
| 5 | What do guys do if they want virgin women but cannot get them?Honestly, judging by the reports I’ve heard and read from women, and even much of what I’ve seen at sex clubs and play parties, reading those books is BETTER than real life experience. Also, if you’re so uptight that you can’t try to learn to talk with women, then start seeing escorts. You’ll gain experience and hopefully get more comfortable with your body and sexuality. No shame in exploring, just do it carefully and with respect for the women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 12:12 AM |
| 5 | What do guys do if they want virgin women but cannot get them?Patience and practice And in the mean time, stop complaining and read books like She Comes First, Come as You Are, and *UrbanTantra. Maybe toss in **Little Birds and Tropic of Cancer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 11:56 PM |
| 0 | Does the fact that many children are raised in fatherless homes explain why most women want a tall man who 'protects' them? Are they seeking to have the father they never had?No | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 10:34 PM |
| 3 | What do guys do if they want virgin women but cannot get them?Learn to be better lovers and communicators, so that you're not frightened of women with experience. This whole virgin obsession seems like kind of a pedo thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 09:48 PM |
| 1 | I'm (30/m) confused by what women mean when they want to feel protected.It means they want to feel calm and safe, so they can relax deeply, within the circle of your care | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Happily partnered folks, does your (heterosexual) relationship seem at all similar to RP beliefs or is very different?We took the good and left the bad. We’re both very attractive,and read very masculine and feminine. We’ve accepted some traditional gender roles — I drive and fix stuff, she cooks. We have a very intimate D/s relationship in the bedroom. But then she makes more money than me, and is much more successful. We’re monogamish, and have played more often with men than women. I do 70% of the childcare. We met by talking about poetry and science. We have an amazing relationship, and a stellar sex-life. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 06:51 PM |
| 1 | We're going full circle, conservative sexual morality will become the norm again for heterosexualsCertainly there's a massive male backlash against the opening of women's sexuality. It's been transformative for so many women, but as is clear from this sub, sexually-empowered women are terrifying to many men. And, of course, there will be a bunch of women who go along with the resentment, for a wide variety of reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 03:46 PM |
| – | CMV RP Guys that claim that beeing Romantic is simp behaviour have Zero Life experience and they should touch grass.Yeah, if you want to know how to do it, go to Italy and study under the masters. So much better than the cold gamesmanship of American men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:14 PM |
| 4 | Does a man have to be better in some aspects than a woman in order for her to be attracted to him?Not at all, but the state of single men in America is such that not even that very basic level is typically available. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Being with an average male is not specialIf you've got chemistry and shared life goals, then you should be pretty happy. That's a match, whatever ranking you'd get on your looks from strangers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 07:49 PM |
| 2 | CMV The Main Factor for Men who make bad dating decisions is lack off options.Nah. Most of the guys I know who have ended up with really terrible women are very high value guys who just don’t have any moderation with women and get trapped. Doctors are a common, since they’re often lonely and always busy — but lots of busy, accomplished, slightly socially awkward guys run into this. Emotionally unstable women target them and basically love bomb them. Then they fall in love, and they’re characteristically very devoted, so they don’t leave when they realize they’re up to the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that almost every average couple has a dead bedroom?Most couples who have lived together for more than 5 years or so are struggling with a dead bedroom. There’s lots of causes, there, but certainly one problem is often that the man or woman gained a bunch of weight after having a child, and doesn’t feel sexy, or find their partner sexy. But it’s not a problem wiith the guy being average looking to begin with. The couples I know who continue to have exciting sex lives after many years of marriage are quite diverse in looks and everything else. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 11:34 AM |
| 3 | CMV : As an average man comparison to exes and potential partners will always lead to the end of your relationship or ruin its qualityMany, many women become deeply disappointed with their lackluster sex lives and routine home lives. They don’t want gangbangs (much), but they want passion and skilled lovers, among other things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:47 PM |
| – | Men should compete for women. Women should be selective. Change my mind.The women aren’t better, they’re just much, much poorer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem, the lack of “Workplace Romance” is the “Elephant in the Room” as to why dating is so hard in American Society?She can pursue any higher value guy she wants, except the one she reports to for work. And she can even pressure that guy, and he can pursue her, with the knowledge that if she ends up pissed at him, he’ll likely lose his job | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 06:59 PM |
| 3 | Women and Men screwed up dating...Simps are also known as nice guys. And they’ve been around for a long, long time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 06:58 PM |
| 6 | CMV : As an average man comparison to exes and potential partners will always lead to the end of your relationship or ruin its qualityComparison is the thief of joy. But you want to know the comparisons that will really burn you? The comparisons to all the experiences that she HASN'T had, but ends up creating elaborate imaginings about, especially if her experience with you is lackluster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem, the lack of “Workplace Romance” is the “Elephant in the Room” as to why dating is so hard in American Society?Workplace romance is very common at every level. People higher up the ladder are more particular. What’s now off-limits is workplace romance with a superior who has potentially coercive power over the inferior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 03:21 PM |
| 4 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractiveMen can do that too. But they never get a chance to learn what they actually like because they’re always so obsessed with winning the pussy prize | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What percentage of women in 2023 do you think are actually looking for love?70%, if you include the married ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 11:07 PM |
| 1 | How would you rate your looks?Look at the hottest man and hottest woman magazine covers over the decades. The objective quality is lacking, though these some objective elements. Maybe 40% objective, 40% cultural norms, and 20% totally singular | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 10:55 PM |
| 0 | Maybe our view of marriage is outdated. It shouldn't be seen as a "forever" thingAbsolutely. Divorce is often a great choice, given the circumstances. Monogamy is also not so natural. In fact, it’s mostly honored in the beach (especially by men) in most traditional societies. Contemplating the possibility of nonmonogamy is really liberating, especially at the beginning of a relationship. Then a choice of monogamy is fully chosen, not just forced into people by unrealistic cultural norms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 09:03 PM |
| 2 | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.Education seems to work even better. Just ask Socrates and Jesus | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 07:29 PM |
| 1 | The only reason women have the extreme upper hand in dating is because men are way hornier; simple supply and demand.Your central premise is false. Women don’t have less libido, they just have a different libido. Come as You Are treats this issue with depth, and should be required reading for everyone interested in speculating about sexual dynamics https://spotify.link/wzedc0198Cb | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:13 PM |
| 2 | The orgasm gap would be smaller if women took the time to communicate their needs instead of expecting things to magically happen to themEveryone should communicate better and clearer. Go read She Comes First and Come as You Are and be part of the solution | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:18 PM |
| 3 | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.Women are very concerned about preserving these rights for future generations of people. But having tons of kids is not the way to do that. The world is so overpopulated with people that our ecology will collapse if we continue. Most of the large animals are going extinct, many of the bugs and birds and sea creatures. Climate change will create massive problems, as is, and will only get worse. What we need is for more of the world’s women to gain self-sovereignty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 01:45 PM |
| 1 | What exactly do RP men want?A lot of clever words to say that the frequency of appalling behavior by single men isn’t that great. And if you define “appalling behavior” as “serial killer or worse,” then the frequency is indeed quite low. But I’d ask any woman here: is the frequency of appalling behavior by single men, judged by what a reasonable person would consider appalling, high or low? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 01:12 AM |
| 1 | So I see men here say women having male friends in a red flag, but also that women are unreasonably mean to single men. How are women supposed to navigate this?Women should deal with this by ignoring the dictates of resentful, controlling men with little understanding | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 09:24 PM |
| 1 | What exactly do RP men want?The stigma against single men exists in substantial part because so many single men behave so appallingly badly, over and over and over | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Men do not reward loyaltyTotally not true — many men are golden retrievers, and will be loyal even to women who are terrible or abusive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Harshest truths that are very hard to swallow about datingMost of the things you believe about the opposite sex are wrong about most of them. And super wrong about any given one of them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that most women are not treatable of learning when it comes to getting the cream of the crop?This is all just dogmatism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 09:37 PM |
| – | The dating game has changedI’ve never seen a chivalrous guy who has trouble. Unless you mean the Renaissance fair type of chivalry. Then they should read Don Quixote | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 08:58 PM |
| 6 | What do you think are the factors leading to so many men’s lack of romantic success *besides* hypergamy?The third space thing is a big deal. Part of the reason so much of America has succumbed to the warm comfort of opioid addiction. Walkable cities are much better, but they’re few and far between in the vast parking lot of the USA Also, American norms of masculinity fail to teach young men how to arouse or please women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 07:46 PM |
| 2 | I think that the problem with The Blue Pill is that they deep down expect sexual attraction to be "rational"Honestly, RP is even worse when it comes to trying to rationalize sexual relations. Just go out there and start talking to women and trying to seduce them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 01:35 PM |
| 8 | Would you date a gender activist (Feminist/MRA)?For sure! I love strong women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Being realistic: do you think someone should be asking out a girl/guy that’s obviously very out of their league?No shade — appreciate it! | /r/seduction | 13/09/23 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Being realistic: do you think someone should be asking out a girl/guy that’s obviously very out of their league?“You’re league” is an empirical fact based on who will go out with you, not the result of a deduction from first principles. If you don’t ask, then you’re limiting what’s possible | /r/seduction | 13/09/23 10:05 PM |
| 0 | What's the reason for why people need a 'hoe phase'?People want quality. But knowing quality requires judgment, and judgment comes from experience. And it takes a lot of experience to know yourself and what’s really quality for you. Which also takes experience. Further, it takes a lot of emotional and communication skills to take a relationship with quality potential and turn it into an actual, quality relationship. But experience only translates into judgment if there’s honest reflection | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 09:52 PM |
| 1 | You ignore the most important thing - the sparkThese are all correct, but they’re not formulaic. Each one of these elements is fairly specific to each woman. Guys, there’s obvious things you can do to make itself generally more attractive. But the biggest thing is just getting out there and getting to know women and trying to find a spark and then cultivate it into a bonfire. Complaining about women on Reddit pants going to help you one bit. It will make you resentful, and women can smell that shit from a thousand yards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 08:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsYou are what you are. But you’re not the things you tell yourself about yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:24 PM |
| 2 | Most men would be resentful and disgusted by their partners if they were given a written or visual history of their past sexual experiences. CMV.The lengths guys will go to in order to justify their fear and resentment of women’s freedom and sexual exploration! The number of men a woman has been with is irrelevant. Her character matters. The two are related, but not the way people here seem to think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:02 PM |
| 1 | Women, which of these four relationship choices would you make if you had to choose?These kinds of thought experiments are of very limited value. They might help elucidate the rational values of a person, but most of our actual decision making is sub-rational. And that’s especially true for attraction and love. When someone becomes aroused, falls into limerance, or falls in love, their values are profoundly shifted. Stop with this fruitless speculation, and learn to create the conditions to make women aroused by you. Learn to talk to them. Become curious about them woman in fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:34 AM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youGet off the dating apps, and don't get stuck in some sense of your identity as this or that, and the world changes. Otherwise, seems like you're arguing that the only option is to give up. Then follow your own advice, accept what you believe to be reality, and stop complaining | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that in the age of equality, we should push for a 50/50 dating culture?I don't even know what that means. I respect the women I date 100% as my equals in a fundamental sense. And I respect women of similar capacity to me (such as my wife, who's frankly better than me in most ways) as my equal or better. But I love to be a man. And I love women. And I love to seduce and dominate the women that I'm with, with their full consent, of course. Different people feel differently about sexuality and gender. Fortunately, today, we don't need hard, top-down norms about the co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I spent many years studying logic and mathematics. Pretty sure I haven’t contradicted myself. But if I did, it was in service of conveying the larger truth. Reality is fuzzy, especially at the level of people. The sooner you accept that, and learn to loosen your mental hold on the law of the excluded middle, the sooner you’ll be able to see what’s actually happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Sure, it’s somewhat harder for less visually attractive guys to find partners, especially for flings. But I can tell you with confidence — flings aren’t very satisfying unless there’s serious chemistry, and then you usually want a deeper relationship anyway. The only flings I’ve really loved are the ones I have with my wife and a third person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Most women don't get aroused spontaneously, the way men do. It's not just about how someone looks. It's about the way they present themselves in the space, and among their friends and strangers, and in relationship. Sure, being hot makes things easier. Especially when you're playing OLD. And if you're carrying 20+ lbs of excess weight, go to the gym. But it's easy for a mediocre looking man to get all the girls, if he has charisma and humor or authority, or just something special, whereas it's n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 11:42 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Being attractive to women is only a little bit about looks. Sure, a great looking guy will have an easier time. But women are much more diverse than men in what they find "good looking," and they care about looks less than men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: what does the average man and woman look like?We're talking about averages, aren't we? But I guess only around 40% of men have some signs of male pattern baldness at age 35. Minoxidil works on most male pattern baldness caused by genetics. https://myhair.life/blog/age-men-go-bald/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 05:57 PM |
| 3 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.I think the real issue is the abysmal state of American men. Stop complaining, go read Come as You Are, to find out what women actually tend to like and what tends to arouse them, and how different they can be from one another and from what you think. Then read She Comes First, so you're ready to actually satisfy a woman once you find one you want a relationship with. And if you're really ambitious, try Urban Tantra. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 05:35 PM |
| 2 | Why don't we encourage men to stay virginal as much as we encourage women?It's all about the cultural ideals of a man who is worldly and experienced and can defend/protect/hunt, and the woman who is virginal and pure and innocent and sheltered and can bear children and care for the home. It's not actually a great life (for most women and some men), but it's a pretty simple ideology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: what does the average man and woman look like?And the forty year old guy should have a receding hairline. Just pay attention in the real world — apparently guys don’t know about minoxidil, because most guys over 35 are getting pretty thin at the temples and in the back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 03:04 PM |
| 5 | Q4M: what does the average man and woman look like?The 40 year old woman is a 7 for her age. Generally pretty close, though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 12:09 PM |
| 2 | Is it ALSO a red flag if a man has had casual sex but never a relationship?Sort yourself out, dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 11:56 AM |
| 5 | How do you think dating will change and evolve within the next decade?Hopefully young men will get out from behind their phone screens and start talking to women in the wild. The book **Come as You Are** is a great set of lessons on what women actually like, and what arouses them. No need for endless speculation when you can just read some relatively rigorous social science on the subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Is the vitriol against promiscuous women a tactic to convince women to not sleep around?Many people are terrified of sexually empowered women. Men get especially worked up about it. The really repressed guys are especially prone to violence, whether in speech or act. Those people are welcome to their tiny, shitty worlds, as long as they don't try to impose them on the rest of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 01:56 PM |
| -1 | Non trad women, are you still expecting trad behavior from men?Yeah, you’re constrained by lots of factors, to greater and lesser degrees, but you have infinite choice within that space | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 05:46 AM |
| 1 | What are your opinions on short guys in terms of attractivness?Under 5’4”, dude needs to date short girls. But I have an ex who’s an absolute knockout, and brilliant, and who was totally in love with a guy who was 5’6”. They were together a few years, and his height was not an issue. She’s got a bit of a thing for big guys, now, but it’s just a plus factor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 05:42 AM |
| 21 | Non trad women, are you still expecting trad behavior from men?There aren’t many traditional women in places where they don’t have to be traditional, because it’s a fairly shitty life. Non-traditional women are non traditional in a million ways. It doesn’t mean that they do the negation of whatever a traditional woman is supposed to do, in every circumstance. It just means they can choose whatever the hell life they want, just like men can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection.I didn’t see your citation, and couldn’t find the study you’re referring to. But even if what you’re saying is true, the aggregate preference of women is much flatter, because individual women have much more variation in preference from one another. So there a lot of space to be yourself, and find a woman who loves that. Unfortunately, for women, that’s not so true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Women aren't attracted to confidence, they hate confidence in men they don't find attractiveTotally not true. Lots of rich losers, and lots of poor guys with genuine confidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 03:18 PM |
| 3 | Women aren't attracted to confidence, they hate confidence in men they don't find attractiveInternal confidence is the only kind with having. Sometimes it can be helpful to take it till you make it, but the aim should be to gain genuine confidence through self-understanding, not to get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection.Women have high standards, but they don’t have uniform standards. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090626153511.htm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men.Of available women, older than you, I’d bet a solid 20-30% would be interested in taking a younger man as a lover. But that’s mostly true once you hit your mid-20s. In the teens and early twenties, men are just such dorks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 01:06 AM |
| 0 | Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection.Yeah, rating people is a massive effort toward self-defeat and de-humanization. "Comparison is the thief of joy" as T. Roosevelt said. But if someone is really so obsessed that they have to do it, at least they should be honest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 11:05 PM |
| 0 | Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men.What was your argument, then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 11:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersThat's insane. You clearly know nothing of what you're talking about. The vast majority of high value men want high value women, not hot pieces of arm candy. At least to marry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 10:19 PM |
| 0 | Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men.You don't need to date "most women." You only need to date one or two | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 10:16 PM |
| 8 | Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection.These rankings are insane. I walk around the streets of NYC, and Margot Robbie or Emma Stone would be super hot in any context. I genuinely feel bad for women that have to deal with these idiots. Of course, if we could adjust the ranking so that a 5 looked remotely like an average woman, that would be a start. In the world of online men, an actual 5 is ranked a 2, and a 10 is a 8. But then what is the standard deviation. Because in the online world, it seems like a 9 or 10 must be something like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 10:07 PM |
| 0 | Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men.Only half true. If you have a great attitude and are emotionally mature and intellectually interesting, you can find an older woman who will happily teach you all kinds of things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Would you rather date a 21 year old and pay for everything or date a women over 30 who splits things 50/50?Neither of those are really qualities I care about in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 04:11 PM |
| 1 | What I noticed about men that have a hot girlfriend.I believe that's generally true. More important, yet, is that the guys with hot girlfriends are usually well-centered. They serve as ground and guard for their girl, and don't get all bent out of shape about things. | /r/seduction | 06/09/23 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Men should just refuse to get marriedMaybe you shouldn't be looking to society's standards for what is right in relationships (or elsewhere). Society's standards are useful for dealing with "society." Not so much for dealing with individuals or yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 12:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Most women don’t think they’re deserving of a top men. But almost none would admit to themselves they deserve average or below….Everyone wants someone who's special. The most important way for someone to be special is for them to think that their partner is the most special, amazing person in the world for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 03:01 AM |
| 8 | I don't blame Deadbeat fathers as much as women, because women control almost 100% of the sexual market and still choose those menBlaming the victim. That's like religious people saying it's not the fault of the religious leaders that they had sex with 14 year olds, because the 14 year olds were all hot and sultry and seductive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 03:42 PM |
| 1 | How do you feel about society making men "obligated" to lead a relationship (asking a girl out, initiating the first kiss, proposing, etc)?Once you just accept the roles, it's fine. In fact, I love being a man, though it took me many years of experiment, observation, reading, and reflecting, before I got a sense of what it meant to be a good man. The problem is that men tend to have spontaneous desire, and women tend to have responsive desire. Most men just get horny, near randomly. Most women only get horny when they've been seduced. What is seduction? It's cultivating the conditions to arouse a woman and get her into the mental s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Young, attractive women don't completely hate the attention they get. If they hated it there wouldn't be a billion dollar industry focusing on making them look as young as possibleSome women enjoy some of the erotic attention that they get from being seen as hot. Is there anyone who has ever disagreed with this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 04:07 AM |
| 2 | The number of sexual activities with orgasm in long-term relationships for heterosexual and lesbian womenIt’s only a problem if you make it one, or refuse to accept that your actions and attitudes change the relationship. For me, my biggest problem is that I have too much amazing sex and not enough sleep. Because I’ve taken responsibility for my role. And because I’ve worked hard to cultivate the responses and relationships that benefit me, and the others I relate with, as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Do TRULY average men actually struggle to date and have sex?They can have casual sex, but with average girls. And remember, most really good looking guys aren’t having tons of casual sex, either, because most people don’t really want to have random sex with perks. Seems good when you’re wanking, but not so good when you’re trying to put the moves on some girl you care nothing for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 11:06 PM |
| 3 | What is the goal in consuming RP dating content?Spot on. There PP and RP ideologies seem only to be resentment and inaction. They’re a virus destroying the lives of young men, and doing little positive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 07:10 PM |
| 6 | The number of sexual activities with orgasm in long-term relationships for heterosexual and lesbian womenMy biggest problem right now is that I haven’t slept more than five hours a night in the last two weeks. Why not? Because even when I say that we’re not having sex tonight, we end up having sex for two hours! We’ve only been married 12 years, though. It’s possible to keep having amazing sex. But it’s on the man to keep her hot for him, and to pleasure her like a goddess. And is rarely comfortable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 02:05 PM |
| 3 | The number of sexual activities with orgasm in long-term relationships for heterosexual and lesbian womenLesbian women are better at making their partners come, but worse at preserving the erotic charge that makes sex enticing. As a man, take this as a great reason to read She Comes First — you, too, can become as good a lover as a lesbian! And maybe hold onto the eros a little longer, too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 02:02 PM |
| 4 | If a woman has difficulty coming to orgasm, that's not my problemMen are to women’s orgasms as the conductor is to the symphony. You wave your stick around in time with the music, and variously emphasize certain moments to help coordinate and play with the energies moving through her body. But she plays all the instruments. Go read “She Cones First,” and learn to help women orgasm. Men with an attitude like the one you’re showing here are exactly the reason women have such unsatisfying sex lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 01:59 PM |
| 2 | CMV: men resent women for having standards?Yeah, it's illegal like weed used to be illegal. There is very, very little legal risk in seeing a sex worker in nearly any country I've been to. In fact, the more legally/politically conservative countries have more pervasive and easily available (and worse treated) sex workers! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 03:48 PM |
| 0 | Your S.O. sex drive is largely dependent on your physical attractivenessNah. I know lots of attractive guys who’s wives don’t fuck them. It’s just something that happens. This obsession with physical attractiveness just fails to understand women. Sure, many like a good looking guy with a hot body, especially if they only want sex (which isn’t often!). But their attraction and arousal is much more emotional and psychological. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/23 03:03 PM |
| 2 | CMV : The reason you think lots of average men are in relationships when actually they’re notNah, most guys over 20 are dating. They’re just not mostly dating models. I live in NYC. I walk out my door and see tons of people of all shapes and sizes and features, walking aroubd or sitting at cafes, clearly couples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/23 02:57 AM |
| 1 | FR [20Y/male] slept w 3 girls on holiday w the boys in 5 days & how I did itJust hollow out the center, and let the body move itself | /r/seduction | 29/08/23 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Modern dating essentially makes it so the worst of us are the ones who reproduce.The ones who reproduce are the fittest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Have you hooked up with someone for non-sexual reasons?I've hooked up with a few women simply because they offered themselves to me, and I felt like it would be unkind or foolish to refuse. Always a mistake | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 03:06 PM |
| 5 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?You can't really trust anyone to know what they want. Better to pay attention to what they like, after they've liked it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 02:35 AM |
| – | 85% of Chinese are not marrying and 60% are not procreatingThere’s also the fact that, due to parents aborting their female children, there’s a huge shortage of young women. This is all very necessary, though. There’s too many people in the world. We’re literally killing all the other animals off, and trashing the place. The only real solution is lower populations. It’s going to be a tough century, though, given that our economic theories are all based on endless growth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 02:58 PM |
| 2 | Do women often assume if a guy isn’t salivating over them that he must not be very interested?I wouldn’t recommend trying to fuck anyone on the first date (though you shouldn’t be opposed to it!). But women will expect you to flirt in a way that shows interest, and to try to escalate, somewhat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 10:17 PM |
| 0 | Which gender double standards and hypocrisies do you think are justified… and which are genuinely a result of cultural sexism and need to change?That's true in most places. In the USA, it's really not true. Our social norms are almost all very new, and they mostly bite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 05:08 PM |
| 7 | Which gender double standards and hypocrisies do you think are justified… and which are genuinely a result of cultural sexism and need to change?You've got some more road to travel, friend. "traditional" or "conventional" wisdom is correct about 30% of the time, for people who are fairly average in their attributes and desires. Those people are welcome to have their wisdom, as long as they don't try to force it on me by violence or law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 04:41 PM |
| – | CMV: In nearly every metric we can measure in the west, the average woman is outperforming the average manI've thought a great deal about why so many men are feeling so disconnected and constantly simmering with resentment. I think part of it is really that American masculinity is profoundly broken -- other than a vague duty to family and country, there's little in the expectations of American masculinity that is good for men or anyone else. And, on the other side, American feminism's expectations of men are better, but often silly and self-defeating, if not practically impossible. I think a big par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 03:11 PM |
| – | CMV: In nearly every metric we can measure in the west, the average woman is outperforming the average manYeah, no. You're thinking "Compare and Contrast." This is just a simile. It's like saying white peoples outperfomed black peoples in the apartaid. That's a comparison that is saying the two are similar. In this comparison, men are cast as subjugated and hindered under American law in a way comparable to the way that SA law subjugated and hindered black South Africans. And American women are given advantage after advantage, much as white South Africans were under apartheid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 02:03 PM |
| – | CMV: In nearly every metric we can measure in the west, the average woman is outperforming the average manI've literally NEVER been sad to be a man, because it's awesome in so many ways. Especially since I long ago parted ways with the stupidity that is American masculinity and decided to do things my own way. Women love me, and because I'm emotionally present and balanced, I have amazing relationships. I'm dominant in bed, love going to orgies, and commonly have experiences that most people couldn't dream of. And almost everybody gives my words and actions authority, just because I'm a masculine gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 01:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: In nearly every metric we can measure in the west, the average woman is outperforming the average manAre you comparing the treatment of men and women in the present day USA to the treatment of blacks and whites in apartheid South Africa? This list includes some genuine advantages that women have (and a few they don’t). It fails to mention the advantages that men have. This sub is so intransigently delusional that I’m afraid it’s not with the effort, any longer. If you really believe it’s so much easier and better to be a woman today in the USA, you’re in luck — you can change your gender, or ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?Because it’s hard to imagine how much people (including oneself) will change in a decade | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Describe your perfect partnerSure, if you just say "perfect" and don't give that any actual attributes, then it's not a checklist. But you're specifically asking for a checklist of what makes a perfect girl. What I'm telling you is that the perfect girl for you is not one that you will find by using a checklist. It wasn't sad at all that I found the perfect girl and didn't click with her! It was an awakening. I will say that she agreed that we didn't have chemistry and was about to break up with me when I broke up with her.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 04:31 PM |
| 2 | Is a woman having a job a bad thing?Women who have jobs that they love are blooming flowers full of erotic energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Describe your perfect partnerI had a checklist of the perfect woman. Then I met her, seduced her, and found that we were duds together. Dump the checklists, folks. It's just mental chatter getting in the way of meeting someone that you really click with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?Sure, but it's not like the girls were going to be knocking down his door when he was just sitting there in his bedroom by himself, before. Mental illness is justifiably a serious impediment to dating. Severe shyness as well. Similarly, assholes may get laid sometimes, but they have a terrible time forming fulfilling relationships. If we don't work on ourselves, we shouldn't be too surprised when people don't get excited to be around us. Personally, I think you can date whenever. But for a decen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?Well, then, good luck approaching with your thirst drooling out of your [mouth], or on OLD. If you want to keep doing the same thing, and complain that you keep getting the same result, then you must enjoy the complaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 10:35 PM |
| – | How are men supposed to meet women?Sounds like it's impossible! Must be a miracle how all these guys do it. I'd suggest getting off the internet, out of your head, and out into the world talking with women and enjoying them for who they are in the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | A lot of women goad 'nice guys' on and then act surprised when they take it the wrong wayThose are all, indeed, signs of interest. But somewhere during the subsequent interaction, something happened to change these women’s minds. I suspect they intuited that it were the kinds of person who spends time on the internet complaining about how unfair things are for them with women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 08:40 PM |
| 0 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?The posts on this site that complain about terrible with women are almost always using language. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Women can easily find a yielding, nice guy if that's what they truly want. If women continuously date assholes it's because they have a preference for assholesFat single dad can also find someone nice, if they get lucky and lower their standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 05:00 PM |
| 1 | The men are better looking at pool parties than womenThat’s total nonsense. I mean, it might be true for that one pool party OP went to, or saw on YouTube. But it’s certainly not generally true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Except for gym, i don't see TRP helping men get laid, at least honestly.There’s lots of hot young things who are just looking to be pampered for a bit, and travel. And rich guys often have a certain, stupid confidence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 01:19 PM |
| 20 | Men who have sex with a lot of women are usually even more misogynistic than 'nice guys'Sure, those guys can be assholes. But women generally know exactly what they’re getting with the assholes. They might try to change them, but the guys are usually fairly transparent. Nice guys aren’t such assholes, at least not obviously. But they actually are treating women in the same instrumental way — as mere tools for their pleasure. The nice guy hopes that, because he’s a shoulder to lean on for his object of desire, and because he does all sorts of nice things for her, that she’ll eventua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 01:24 PM |
| – | The single biggest mistake women make in online-dating is filtering by male heightThe women filter based on the filters that are available, and those filters are quite limited in OLD. Guys have to get out of the OLD rut. The world is much fresher and more full of possibilities when you experience it with all your senses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 08:38 PM |
| 0 | What are some examples of "What society tells you vs. The reality" about gender relationships?You know who else lied to you -- your chemistry and physics teachers! Remember when they taught you that the atom was like the solar system? False! The values that your mom taught you were good. The golden rule is good. But they were too simple, and they left out a lot of weird, kinky stuff that people try to keep stuffed down in their unconscious but turns them on. It's not really true that you should "do unto others as you would have them do to you." You should probably "do unto others as they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Female women, what kind of man makes you feel lust?Life is different than you think. Get our there and learn what actually turns you on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 02:52 PM |
| 3 | The standard rejections of "no spark, not enough chemistry and not feeling it" is just a nicety of 'I didn't find you sexually attractive.'Depends on what you mean by “sexually attractive.” I take “attractive” to generally mean that a person’s looks attract my attention. But “chemistry” is a thicker concept, including voice, the way a person carries themselves, the spark in their eye, whether they laugh at my jokes and appreciate my interests, how they smell, etc. We have chemistry we each get aroused around each other. For instance, I find Megan Fox and Angelina Jolie objectively hot, but wouldn’t sleep with either of them because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that a lot of guys are bitter about dating being better in their 30s?I had an amazing time dating >25. But I think a big part of that was having mostly older girlfriends when I was <25 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 01:15 PM |
| 1 | I often hear women say "I have attractive male friends with awesome personalities, but I don't like them that way." If they're attractive, why aren't they attracted to them?Chemistry is much more about the way someone smells or the way someone's eyes twinkle when they laugh, than it is about the way someone looks. If you were getting more dates, you would quickly realize that most "attractive" women are not a good match, because you don't really have chemistry with them. You know for sure when you're having sex, and it's just feeling kind of mechanical. Then you learn not to pursue those women further. That doesn't mean that those women aren't "objectively" attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 06:59 PM |
| 0 | This one slutty trick will win your lifeThis is an intense practice that is very powerful bit can be destabilizing. I would suggest that one also practice tonglen with oneself while looking in the mirror. At least sometimes https://mindworks.org/blog/tonglen-meditation-how-to-practice/ | /r/seduction | 04/08/23 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Born Again virgins and hoe phasesNot really. A person doesn’t usually have the capacity to have more than a few fully committed, maybe-forever relationships. After someone has had their heart broken once or twice (usually just from the fact that love alone doesn’t prevent a relationship from crumbling), they set up some defenses against getting hurt. And they recognize that they don’t have the energy and time to just throw them into whatever relationship they first come upon. So they start to get more picky about where they dev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Born Again virgins and hoe phasesYou’re talking about different issues. Sure, if someone has been in a couple of serious, long-term relationships, they’re likely to be more hesitant to commit, because they’ve been hurt before. But that’s got little to do with gender or someone’s level of sexual experience — many people can make it to their thirties without exploring sexually harshly at all, despite having been in one or two serious relationships. And, on the other side, people who had long term relationships and were not too ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Born Again virgins and hoe phasesI've never experienced anything short of exceptional pair-bonding with the women I've dated seriously (numbering 5). And all but the first of them had fairly extensive experience before me. I really don't think there's any causal relationship between sexual experience (short of something truly exceptional or simply abusive) and pair bonding. However, there might be something to the fact that most of the women who are bad at pair bonding, and are fairly attractive, will tend to have more sexual r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Born Again virgins and hoe phasesExactly -- many young men are such selfish lovers that they'd rather find a woman who doesn't have any experience. Why? Because he can't satisfy her in bed, and rather than learning to become a great lover who consistently provides deep sexual satisfaction to his partners, he wants to take the lazy path by marrying a woman who doesn't have experience of how good sex can really be, so she doesn't complain and leave him when he doesn't sexually satisfy her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 05:34 PM |
| 1 | There's no point for a man to get married in a western societyI’d say the actual facts aren’t terribly relevant, here. What we know for sure is that for most of western history, Pericles was known both as the possibly greatest leader of the golden age of Athens, and one of its greatest men (in an age when men, truly, could lift a stone twice as large as any man could, today). AND he was generally regarded as having a mistress who was a courtesan and also his central advisor on important affairs of state. So, sure, she wasn’t his wife. But she was the one h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 01:48 AM |
| 17 | Born Again virgins and hoe phasesSpecifically, I think these boys are afraid that a woman will have had much better lovers than them. Of course, guys would be better off learning to become a great lover, but that would take a lot of time away from whining about how life isn’t fair for men. It’s much easier to ensure that she’s sexually “satisfied” by keeping her ignorant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 12:29 AM |
| 2 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?Don't sleep with someone until you're comfortable sleeping with them, and excited about the prospect. Try to be clear eyed about his commitment and whether trust is justified, and how much trust you really need for the relationship you're seeking with the guy. Once you've decided, you can always change your mind, but let go of the deliberation and enjoy the sex. The rest is just a bunch of speculation -- some guys will be unhappy no matter what a woman does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 01:48 PM |
| 1 | There's no point for a man to get married in a western societyTell that to Pericles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 01:38 PM |
| 4 | There's no point for a man to get married in a western societyThere’s nothing emasculating about marrying a woman who’s had kinky sex with other men. That’s all in your head, buddy. The value of marriage is a bit less than it used to be for men, and far less than ever for women, which is why women initiate 2x as many divorces as men. Men in most societies go to prostitutes, and if they have real money, it’s common to have mistresses. Women were the ones really trapped, but their other options were often even worse. I would never encourage anyone to get mar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 01:07 AM |
| 4 | how abnormal is it for women compared to men to have a very high libido?That’s an interesting reflection. I wonder if part of the problem isn’t also that men want more sex with their partner, while women have been shown to get much more bored with their partner’s routines. And so while women may want more sex, they don’t necessarily want more of the sex they’re currently having | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 01:55 PM |
| 1 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.Definitely not. There’s plenty of guys with lots of experience but poor skills. It takes some experience to become skilled, but not that much. I’d say that meditation experience is more likely than sexual experience to make you an excellent, attentive, and sensual lover. Even better is meditation and training from an older woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 11:19 PM |
| 2 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.Nobody is getting hot for “mediocre.” Start being your best self! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 08:15 PM |
| 5 | Average guys in relationships are subject to a different set of rules than attractive onesTotally not true. How do you guys come up with this stuff? I’m a handsome guy, and I always gotten the same responses from women during my needy phases that any other needy guy gets — they look at me like I’m a creep and end the interaction promptly. What’s probably different from a normal guy is that, if I’m depressed and go to a bar and look mournful, there’s a greater than zero chance that a woman will try to pick me up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 05:40 PM |
| 2 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.Let’s ignore his self-absorption and preening, and assume that women are seeing him on the beach in his swimsuit. He’s hot, and that’s enough to get interest. But think about sex. Forget even about lifetime relationships (looks fade, etc.) or even short-term relationships (you get accustomed to a person, and they’re hotness fades with their freshened over a couple years, usually). Let’s just talk about women looking for one night stands. Men are largely the tops in most sexual relationships, mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 04:37 PM |
| 1 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.Yes, they care about “all that” a great deal. Let’s ignore his self-absorption and preening, and assume that women are seeing him on the beach in his swimsuit. He’s hot, and that’s enough to get interest. But think about sex. Men are largely the tops in most sexual relationships, making they control the action to a great extent. A man generally needs to be aroused by the way a woman looks, and the way she responds to him, in order to have a pleasant sexual experience. As long as he’s well arouse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 04:31 PM |
| 3 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.Why do you think “young and attractive girls” want that guy? I mean, some of them probably get aroused by him. Enough that he probably doesn’t have much trouble finding a partner. But most “attractive” young women won’t find him attractive, just based on his looks and style and the character he presents. And, among the ones that can get aroused a bit by his pictures, most of them would find him a poor match if they were to date with any seriousness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Just observe couples offline for a while and you’ll realise the bar isn’t as high as you probably think it isYes! On the one hand — improve yourself. Work on your body and character and emotional awareness, and especially your relationship/communication skills (little value in seducing women if you can’t manage to cultivate a healthy relationship with her). On the other hand — be confident with who you are! The vast majority of guys who get out there are dating cute girls that they really like. Women are much more varied and accepting than you believe, especially if you’re genuinely kind and attentive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 04:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV : I have never seen a young woman dissatisfied in a relationship with a traditionally attractive manThen you haven’t looked around. I’m traditionally handsome, and I have a bunch of friends who are traditionally handsome. I’ve had a number of women break up with me, and my friends . . . my god, there’s more train wrecks than not. People are unhappy, and they bring that into relationships. On top of that, being traditionally handsome says nothing about whether you have relationship skills or make good choices of women. Additionally, traditionally handsome men often have to deal with increased j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Do women actually marry the men they aren't really that sexually attracted to?There's a tiny bit of truth to it. Just enough to support a massive scaffolding of speculations by the manosphere. Drop the speculation, and just deal with fact -- particularly your actual lived experience. More men than women cheat, probably. Many traditional societies have norms in place to deal with attractive men cheating -- going to brothels is still fairly common and accepted in many countries, even in Europe. And mistresses are pretty much expected for wealthy men. Women who don't want a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 03:32 PM |
| – | Why do some women hate harmless kind men so much?I’ve never met such a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 08:59 AM |
| 2 | The 'Chad C*ck Carousel* is a MythThank you! That was a Herculean labor, but I dearly hope it can go a good way toward ridding young men of this pernicious, self-defeating piece of misogynist ideology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 03:12 AM |
| 1 | In 2023, should men still be expected to pay for dates? Why?Get over it and pay for the date. But don't make a big thing about it, and don't expect anything from it. If she asks if she can pay half, tell her you've got it. If she brings it up again, let her pay half with grace and appreciation. If you don't want to pay much, don't go somewhere expensive. I always took women to cool, inexpensive places, and it never turned anyone off from me except for the gold-diggers (and I wasn't a good fit for them, so everyone won) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 09:27 PM |
| 8 | I am NOT seeing "average" men having sex "all the time"Yeah, seems like a frustrated voyeur. You want to see average people having average kinds of sex, go to an average sex club. You almost certainly won’t have sex with anyone, but you’ll see a lot of average people in average relationships having sex. Might be eye opening | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 07:28 PM |
| 5 | Dating for long term relationships past university age is pointlessWhy are you obsessing about this nonsense? Just go live your life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 03:07 PM |
| 0 | Would most men cheat on their partners if given the chance?I'm quite attractive, charming, enjoy flirting, and live in NYC. I have TONS of opportunities to cheat. I've certainly never done it, though, nor do I expect to in the future. But my wife and I like to have threesomes and group sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month.Great little test! Hope you can find a dating style that helps you find a great companion and hot lover, while letting you feel like your authentic self! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 07:19 PM |
| – | CMV: The next logical step for our gynocentric society is to say that a man asking his girlfriend/wife to not fuck other men while in a relationship will be considered "controlling"Nah, your interpretation is miserly. If you’re happy just wanking off, that’s probably for the best for everyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 09:05 PM |
| – | CMV: The next logical step for our gynocentric society is to say that a man asking his girlfriend/wife to not fuck other men while in a relationship will be considered "controlling"All this language is totally ideological, and dehumanizing. "Pump and dump throughout your entire 20s," "dual mating strategy," "can't remain faithful," etc. You seem to believe these are factual statements about the world, when they're actually very skewed and ungenerous (i.e., miserly) interpretations. Men aren't expected to provide for anyone, except themselves. And my wife is totally faithful to me, despite the fact that she sometimes fucks another guy. Drop the propaganda, and the world bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 07:49 PM |
| – | CMV: The next logical step for our gynocentric society is to say that a man asking his girlfriend/wife to not fuck other men while in a relationship will be considered "controlling"You’re obviously welcome to your preferences. But most of those sentiments are pretty irrational — mostly just based on fear and susceptibility to “peer” opinion. Unfortunately, there’s been an indoctrination of sad boys into the “alpha” club of insecure misogynists. Doesn’t seem to make anyone happy, but it makes money for the propagandists while keeping the poor rubes coming back for their fix of resentment and indignation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 07:28 PM |
| – | CMV: The next logical step for our gynocentric society is to say that a man asking his girlfriend/wife to not fuck other men while in a relationship will be considered "controlling"Your vision of women is pretty miserly, to put it kindly. But, indeed, just as men find that they often like to watch porn, even while in a sexually satisfying relationship, and watch different pornstars and not just always same one, so women enjoy sexual variety. Hardly surprising | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 07:23 PM |
| – | CMV: The next logical step for our gynocentric society is to say that a man asking his girlfriend/wife to not fuck other men while in a relationship will be considered "controlling"Are you trying out for a position in right wing media hysterics? Women can already cheat I hope more women explore the joys of consensual nonmonogamy. And if she wants to do that, and you’re scared to try or really value strict sexual exclusivity, then maybe you break up. Better than getting cheated on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Why do a lot of men believe they will get sexier with age?Oh, whatever. 16 year old girls might be hot, but they’re naive and incapable of effectively understanding consequences. To try to have sex with them when you’re more than a few years older is predatory, abusive, and should be criminal in the places where it isn’t already. And men should grow up and stop sexually predating on women who don’t know better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 07:15 PM |
| -1 | Why do a lot of men believe they will get sexier with age?I guess it depends on what you value — I love beauty, self-confidence based in self-knowledge, and a little experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Why do a lot of men believe they will get sexier with age?Because they do. 16 year old girls are often HOT. 16 year old boys are usually pimply, gangly, awkward messes. Women hit their prime, in my view, between 27 and 35. Men between 30 and 45 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 06:21 PM |
| 3 | How important is fitness in finding your ideal partner?Couldn’t care less, though I actively dislike gym bodies. I appreciate good proportions, and rarely mind a firm body, and that may require the gym for some women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 08:15 PM |
| – | CMV: Men who are not naturally good at dating and finding sexual partners cannot become good at it without making some women uncomfortable.Indeed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 07:43 PM |
| 7 | What women like vs what men think they likeI don’t think most of these “alpha” traits are that popular among women — it’s mostly guys getting all wet about alpha guys. But your point about unusual traits is very true, and applies to a lot of traits that aren’t in the “alpha” set. You just have to identify those traits that you have, and find a way to communicate them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 07:42 PM |
| 5 | What women like vs what men think they likeHow do you know? I’d be willing to bet that the minority of women under 30 do not find Thor hot. And probably less than a majority for Changing Tatum | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 07:39 PM |
| 3 | Friendly vibes = she wasn't physically attracted to youYou can’t manufacture initial attraction, but the initial attraction is only barely about the way you look. It’s about how she feels in your presence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 07:33 PM |
| -2 | Friendly vibes = she wasn't physically attracted to youAttraction isn’t negotiated, but it’s also not determined by physical features | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 07:32 PM |
| 3 | Nice Guys are really just lazy.Niceness is easy, but genuine kindness is a life-long project | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 05:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV I believe that beeing a Step Dad is one off the most humilating things that a Man can do to himself.For sure | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 01:40 AM |
| 2 | Whats your opinion on open relationships?Ok, but there’s a lot of different ways to do consensual nonmonogamy. I can’t speak to all of them, just this one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 01:40 AM |
| 5 | Whats your opinion on open relationships?I’m in an open marriage. Specifically, we’re sexually non-exclusive, emotionally semi-exclusive, and socially/legally totally exclusive. That means we play together, in the context of threesomes, foursomes, orgies, etc. And we’re kinky in sone other ways, as well. Our experience has been amazing. We only opened about 2 years ago, after well over a decade of marriage. Genuine sexual discovery, amazing fun adventures, profound insight into ourselves and our relationship, tremendously improved comm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 01:25 AM |
| 5 | CMV I believe that beeing a Step Dad is one off the most humilating things that a Man can do to himself.Those things are also not intrinsically humiliating. Depends on how big a man you are, or how small | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 01:11 AM |
| 2 | The majority of people are too self-centered and it's why so many relationships have problemsSo true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 01:09 AM |
| 18 | CMV I believe that beeing a Step Dad is one off the most humilating things that a Man can do to himself.Right, and that person will rightly end up in prison, because humans have decided they don’t want to live like that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 12:20 AM |
| 4 | It's time to face the facts: Women want to be approached. Men aren't doing it. #MeToo is a convenient scapegoatRight, the lesson here is to be careful approaching in the workplace. And, if you do and you’re turned down, best to just avoid any unusual interaction with that woman for a bit, until things cool off. But the vast majority of reports to HR lead to HR making a record, and nothing more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 11:24 PM |
| 49 | CMV I believe that beeing a Step Dad is one off the most humilating things that a Man can do to himself.Humiliation is an interpretation that you layer onto the world, not a natural feature of the world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 11:20 PM |
| -2 | Sex is extremely important to people and when they say it's not, they're lying.If I think through my high school graduating class, almost all the least physically attractive people are in relationships, unless they also have developmental disabilities or are antisocial in fairly obvious ways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 09:14 PM |
| -1 | Sex is extremely important to people and when they say it's not, they're lying.I mean, it’s certainly possible that your looks aren’t helping you. But even very good looking guys can have trouble getting laid if their head isn’t in the right place. And there’s tons of ugly guys in relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 09:02 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Whats your thoughts on some men saying the only women who flirt/hit on them are much older?The only women who hit on me are under 25, or over 50. Not sure what that says about me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 06:57 PM |
| -2 | Sex is extremely important to people and when they say it's not, they're lying."Sex positive" does not mean you have to listen to guys complaining about why they deserve to get laid, but don't. If you're not getting laid at all, it's not your looks. Personality may not be easy to change, but much can be changed with work. Get rid of the resentment and the victimization. Go pick up **Urban Tantra** and practice the exercises in there until you get good at them. Then work on your social skills and reading body/facial cues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 05:58 PM |
| 16 | Why don't women compliment and approach men?I suspect part of it is that women don’t really want to get some guy obsessed with her, unless she’s really sure she wants to be seeing him seriously. If she starts out with that, then turns out not to have chemistry with him, he’s still liable to get expectant and pushy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 03:20 PM |
| 11 | Is the pattern of dating the most desirable men in their 20s and then settling in their 30s nd 40s a common pattern of modern day women in most 1st world countries?Are you in a position in your life where you think you’re ready to be guiding people’s life choices? Are you wise? Why would an 18 year old woman let you take her reigns, except that she’s too naive to know better? Or is that the point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 02:52 PM |
| – | If you aren’t succeeding at dating apps, it’s your faultDating apps suck. Try talking with people in the world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.I really don’t think that women, in general, have a particular attraction for what American men of the internet call “masculinity.” Like the penis size obsession, it’s mostly guys’ insecurities driving the obsession, not women’s preferences. Sure, some women like “alpha” men or giant penises, but it’s really a distraction when it comes to attraction or sexual satisfaction, respectively. Masculinity is in crisis in America. We need better models that better suit men and the women we love and work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 12:43 AM |
| 1 | There's just as many women, as men, that are unsuccessful in romance, and they are so mostly for the same reasons as men.The numbers are disproportionate, but not quite like that. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ Looks in many ways like women are just waiting for men to grow up before they get serious with them — something I frequently recommend to young women. Once they hit 30, men’s numbers get much better, though they still don’t hit women’s numbers. The remaining variance might be explained by harem building by some men. I’d be curious to read an actual study … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Most "male approaches" are just misunderstandings from womenI mean, you’re just wrong. My wife gets hit on ALL THE TIME. In the vegetable section of the grocery store, on the subway, on the train, in the hall, on the street, you name it. Often while I’m nearby! Most of the time, she appreciates it and is quite gentle in letting them down. Once in a while, they’re jerks or appear entitled, and she’ll shoot them down hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.I don’t think that’s true, mostly because nice guy behavior (unfortunately for susceptible young men seeking role models) was highly touted in film and popular culture throughout the 80s and 90s. Of course, those films were made by men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 07:01 PM |
| 0 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I agree (though the number of purely heterosexual women is dwindling). But many heterosexual women are very attracted to men who openly and daringly express aspects of their femininity. Especially when that comes from a confidence about their masculinity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:29 PM |
| 2 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.I’ve spent much of my life seeking to figure out what is good and how to do that. It’s never presented me any problems with dating — just the opposite! Nice guys are guys who do what’s good because they believe that’s what everyone thinks they’re supposed to do, and they’re scared of the consequences if they do otherwise. So they end up not really being good, instead acting like conventional milquetoasts. Because they’re not honest with themselves or others about their desires and dreams. A litt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:26 PM |
| -1 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.There’s no contradiction in reality, only in your formulation. Think about it more deeply, and you’ll see | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:20 PM |
| -1 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.That I have a subtle attraction to my female friends is unambiguous. But I’m not interested in dating any of them. See the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.There’s a small minority of women who act like you describe. But I suppose you’re justified in your concern for them that they will be hurt when their unvoiced expectations are not met. But Chad doesn’t care | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.Couldn’t agree more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Just admit that your idea of what makes a man attractive is deeply, desperately in need of empirical revision. I doubt Bowie was sexy because he was wealthy and high status — that hasn’t done wonders for Bill Gates, though I’m sure he has plenty of suitors who don’t really find him sexy. Look around — tons of beautiful women are with guys who are quite feminine, if they do it with confidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 05:41 PM |
| 2 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Looks matter, but not the way you think. How many women crushed on David Bowie? Or fair metal bands? Or singers with high, sweet voices? Those guys were often highly feminized, and women go crazy for them. It’s about the person, not the features | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 03:48 PM |
| – | Could u in the 80s as a Man basically "just exist" and you were basically guaranteed that u will end up with a Wife + Family? Was it that easy?No, it was never that easy. If you go to the poor, traditional countries where beautiful young women line up to marry fat old duds, as long as they’re white and from the west, you’ll soon realize that there are MANY single men at all ages, who are incapable of marrying because they don’t have enough money. Prostitutes are a comment outlet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 03:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women must feel like they are going crazy when most men are willing to sleep with them, but only a handful would be interested in a committed relationshipThere’s a lot of women I wouldn’t sleep with. There’s even a lot of very hot women that I wouldn’t sleep with. What’s the point, when you can feel that there’s no chemistry? But your point is still valid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 01:15 PM |
| 2 | The modern dating world has been somewhat ruined by OLD, but it's mostly men's fault.I hear women complaining constantly about how all they can find are fuckboys or partnered guys looking for some side action | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 11:57 PM |
| 0 | If I need to be perfectly happy alone for a partner to find a partner to like me, why would I want a partner in the first place?It's not necessary (obviously). But it is among the best ways to: 1) attract quality women, and 2) build great relationships with those women (and everyone else). Why would you want to, if you're already happy? For the same reasons that a happy person might go on a hike, or buy a great knife. Just because you're happy doesn't mean that you won't want to set up the conditions to increase the quality of experiences and relationships in your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 08:08 PM |
| 3 | Having low confidence is by far the least attractive trait a guy can have: how can I get rid of that?Check out The Untethered Soul. Your mind is an exquisite tool for things like mathematics and music. But most of the churn going on is self-harm. If you stop bothering yourself all the time, many of your biggest problems just disappear | /r/seduction | 17/07/23 12:42 PM |
| 9 | Men want a woman who is as into him as possible, women want a man who ticks as many checkboxes as possibleDid you do a study on this? I await the publication | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 03:46 AM |
| 1 | If a woman doesn't kiss passionately on the first kiss, she's just not into a guyOP is absolutely right that kissing says a great deal about how she feels at the moment. And turning the lips away is a definite sign to slow down or retreat — you didn’t get her into the right headspace before you went to kiss. There’s really no formula. But if you can learn to kiss like this, you won’t need to learn a formula: https://youtu.be/ulrxrM8Sldk | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 03:16 AM |
| 2 | Women have total control of the dating marketStart finding ways to be happy with yourself and your life, as it is (which isn’t to say you shouldn’t try to improve your life, but don’t condition your happiness on the results of some as-yet-uncompleted project). Then you’ll find that many women are interested in joining you in your happy life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 06:59 PM |
| 3 | Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinityWhere are you drawing these conclusions from? I’ve done a ton of dating, and these are not things I’ve ever noticed (though men giggling in a high pitch is quite unusual). Seems like a summary of some lecture by Professor Tate, or something. Because it’s not from experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Most controversial gender views here are literally just common sense, around the worldWhich part of this is so controversial in the west? If you moderate the statements a bit, and remove the occasional, sickAnd consequence, they all seem fairly trivial. The “top exceptional man” one just seems silly — what does that even mean? And even those guys don’t have endless options — look at Bezos’ wife. But mostly unexceptional statements | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the lonely men online actually just want sex?I wouldn’t say they’re inextricably mixed in almost any cases (parents, typically, and close friends, sometimes). But most people, especially men, have trouble separating them in opposite sex relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the lonely men online actually just want sex?I’ve long been led to understand that sex workers are predominantly in the male care business, and less so in the sex business. That’s confirmed, somewhat, by this fascinating video investigation https://youtu.be/eHlDo3Zj_58 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 06:03 AM |
| 2 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?New practice — start little conversations with random people. Learn to enjoy it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 05:46 AM |
| – | CMV: Texting (especially in the course of an LTR) is for logistics only.Truth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 09:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV Many Women claim "a man can be soft" or "a man can cry its no issue" but they don't date those dudes, in fact they date the Guys that would be in the "toxic masculinity" bracket, and this is kinda funny lolWomen date men who know their desire and pursue it. They date men who respect and appreciate them, and also treat them like sexual toys when that’s what they want. They date men who have the confidence to know themselves and their weaknesses, but don’t make a big deal about it. They date men who can cry at a sad movie, or the death of their grandmother, or because they’re having a vulnerable conversation without blaming and victimizing. Nobody really likes someone who is stewing in resentment, o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 09:27 PM |
| 3 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?Cold approach is fine. Just approach women you find attractive like you’d approach every other human being, but with a touch of spice. I’d recommend talking with men and women you’re not interested in, at least as often as women you’re interested in. Just get the hang of talking to strangers. A few women will be miffed, lots will just blow you off or be otherwise indifferent, a handful will have an interesting conversation, some will show interest, but you’ll discover you’re not interested and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Women actually want to be approached by a manOk, as Barbara Carellas notes, there’s those who want to be right, and those who want to be happy. I’m happy, and that’s how I know I’m right about this one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Women actually want to be approached by a manI never wanted for a beautiful woman on my arm, let me assure you. The thing is that I speak with women as people, first. I’m not trying to bag them, like a big game hunter. I’m hoping to appreciate the flowering of their being, and to enjoy myself in the process. If we both get hot during the interaction, then I move things further. For me, almost every interaction is a success. And in the process I sometimes find amazing women who have incredible chemistry with me. If you think a spreadsheet a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Women actually want to be approached by a manI think you’re not reading very well. But it’s ok. I long ago learned to recognized people who are dedicated to their self-imposed misery. Hopefully other young men can read this, before they entrench themselves so deeply in resentment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 07:31 PM |
| 0 | Women actually want to be approached by a manWhat kind of nonsense are you talking? I’ve been rejected 20 times for every woman who’s given me a good response. Who cares? The problem is when you get all obsessed with girl X. Just go out and connect, and if there’s a connection back, tend it with care and delicacy (and increasing passion). Maybe it flowers, or even fruits? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Women actually want to be approached by a manCollege is not a time to learn cold approaches. Just go to parties and use your friend groups | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 02:28 PM |
| -4 | Women actually want to be approached by a manThe risk is basically zero. The reward is a lifetime of joy with a woman who understands and appreciates you. Get out of your head, and you'll see more clearly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 02:26 PM |
| – | Women actually want to be approached by a manThis is entirely true. Gird up your loins, boys -- women want to be approached in a non-predatory, engaged way. Humor and insight helps, but do your thing. If there's sparks, ask if they'd like to meet for coffee, or go to event X, or for their IG or number or whatever. If not, enjoy a human interaction and try to leave them feeling a little better about men and the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 02:25 PM |
| 3 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental healthVulnerable and open does not imply unconfident and weak. Be vulnerable and open from a sense of surfeit of strength and confidence. To paraphrase Nietzsche: make of your life a joy to behold, a path of full-hearted yeses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 01:19 AM |
| 1 | About what percentage of women do you think completely do not care about height?If they’re looking on apps, maybe 20%. In real life, closer to 80% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Height is the most influencing factor to a man's SMVThese factors are super important for OLD, but don’t matter that much in real life. Most women want a man who’s taller than them, but beyond that height is just a little boost. Mostly women like real men because they tend to be confident and centered. It seems likely that your survey of the opinions female doctors of regarding colleagues of different heights misses something. You assume that the only relevante difference is the height. But it seems much more likely that the shorter doctor acts a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 09:56 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Social media and dating/hookup culture in the west is encouraging the erosion of the solemnity of long term relationships and life long marriage.What makes life-long marriage and king term relationships solemn? Answer that question, and you’ll see why those ideas no longer have the credibility they once had | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 11:47 PM |
| – | Women are hypergamous not for wanting the best man, but for not really having an upper limit on the qualities they desire in menBars and clubs can be tough in different ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Women are hypergamous not for wanting the best man, but for not really having an upper limit on the qualities they desire in menHeight matters much more in theory than in practice. Get off the apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 03:19 PM |
| 1 | What are mens opinions on gym girls?Meh. Gym obsession is weird. But I love women who look great, and publicly delight in their figure. I wish American men would take a lesson and learn to dress themselves with style. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 06:03 PM |
| 4 | Observation: girls are constantly baiting guys into destroying their own futures at every point in lifeSounds like the thing luring guys to their doom is their stupid ideas about what girls want. Stop believing the nonsense theories that guys tell you about girls. Get out of your head, and start paying attention to women. Like, really paying attention to individual women that you’re engaging with. Try to turn them on, try to make them feel amused and comfortable. It’s an empirical matter, and you need to test things out and pay attention to a persons actual responses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 11:39 PM |
| 3 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityI suppose. But they’re not with that guy, are they? Besides, maybe guys should up their skills and develop real care for the woman’s pleasure and well-being, instead of hoping that their girlfriends will be too ignorant to notice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 11:29 PM |
| 18 | What dating advice would you give to women?First, find a way to be basically happy with yourself and your situation. Then, look for someone who is also basically happy. Drop the checklist. Don’t use apps, if you can help it. Look for guys that share your interests, have kind eyes, and turn you on. Do you get aroused by their smell? Your nose is a better guide to relationship satisfaction than your mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Are men really the only ones that can’t take rejection? Or is that a baseless assumptionNobody like rejection. One of the most beautiful women I ever dated was not very into me until I told her we didn’t have good chemistry. I don’t think anyone has ever rejected her before, and she became obsessed for months. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 06:32 PM |
| 7 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityI’m a man, and I don’t understand most of these worries about women who have had many partners. Women, like men, can have all kinds of problems. Very, very few of those have anything to do with her prior sexual experience. And there’s many virtues to a woman who knows her body and her way in bed. I do understand that, if you’re a very inexperienced and unskilled lover, an experienced woman can be intimidating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Is the Nice Guy misunderstood or am I projecting?Here’s an insightful definition, and helpful explanation for why “nice guy” behavior has gotten a bad reputation. https://open.spotify.com/episode/4np1g9U29vB3LPLampn4ln? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 08:59 PM |
| – | 2 years of online dating. Here are the things I've learned about womenThis Is the rare, sound advice on this sub that actually comports with experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Do older men really find younger women attractive?Would most have sex with them if they had the opportunity ?Sure, there’s plenty of beautiful 16 year olds or 20 year old, or whatever. And lots of beautiful 25 or 30 or 35 or 40 year olds. There’s even many beautiful 45 or 50 or 55 year olds. Some people prefer the spring, some the summer, some the fall. Anyone who’s claiming its biology is simply making things up. While there’s some relationship between sexual attraction and fertility and youth, it’s not remotely as binary or simple as many pretend | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a mans politics can keep him from getting laid?It’s the men who stay in rural areas that fetishize a traditionalist past that they would not have enjoyed. The women go to cities, and generally lean left. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 09:35 AM |
| 2 | There's a lot of stay at home wife/mom relationships, they just occur under the disguise of the woman having a fun job like a yoga/fitness instructor or running a shop.Men need to start getting comfortable in relationships with hot women who have better jobs and make more money than them. Make yourselves useful, and get over the loss of privilege | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?The whole traditionalist idea of masculinity, which is really a weird derivation from the quasi-naturalist definitions like “alpha,” Is totally looney toons. The whole alpha thing is a weak shadow of genuine, confident masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 06:06 PM |
| 1 | How can women tell if a guy is 'inexperienced' or a virgin if he lies?They can’t tell if you’re a virgin. They can tell whether you’re likely to be a good lover, though. A good lover knows what he wants and how to get it. A good lover is aware of his senses, has some knowledge of techniques that often give pleasure to women, he uses his body like an instrument, and is highly attuned to the responses of his partner — looking in her eyes and reading her emotions frequently, attending to her bodily reactions like goosebumps, hardened nipples, a wet pussy — all so tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 10:14 PM |
| – | Why are "happily married" people browsing these subs?I’m not trying to gain anything. I feel compassion for the people lost in the weeds, and would like to show them some ways out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 08:00 PM |
| 1 | When was the last time you saw a strange man approaching a random woman in the streets, or public places?I’ve done it hundreds of times. But you can’t just approach. There usually needs to be a common, external focus — something annoying or amusing or interesting. And don’t start out trying to get laid — just try to make a connection with another human being. If there’s chemistry, turn up the heat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Is the reason why single women are happier than single men because their celibacy is *mostly* a choice?It’s because they have meaningful friends and some yearn for sex the same way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 04:51 AM |
| – | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.The problem isn’t women. I believe it’s American culture’s failure to cultivate men who are emotionally and intellectually whole and capable of connecting deeply with women. And then the recent dependence on apps exponentially increases the problem. Because, while women DON’T care soooo much about how good looking a guy is, they’re generally picky. So if all you give them is pictures, they’ll get VERY picky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 02:37 PM |
| 1 | To the non-red pill men, do you agree with the notion that women ‘age out’ of their prime by 25? Why/why not?Definitely not. In the average woman, I think she’s most beautiful at 27. But that’s partially because she’s woman enough to know her body and her desire, but not quite old enough to start worrying much about having children. Many women become more beautiful in their thirties. 40s can often be tough, but certainly not always | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Guys don’t seem to be on the same page about submissive partnersThat’s fine, but they should be converting to some kind of fundamentalist faith. Because, outside of women who have been brainwashed by some fundamentalist religion since birth, there aren’t a ton of women looking for that nonsense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 10:31 AM |
| 1 | How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high?It’s absurd to ask for a woman with a low body count, unless you’re really low confidence. In which case, you’re probably not in much of a position to ask for anything — you should be grateful for what you can get | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 10:27 AM |
| – | How much truth is there to the Red-pill concept of "Alpha Widow"?Not at all. Alpha is a simplistic and ill-fitting hierarchy pretending to describe the rank of all human men. It’s a sad ideology that leads a American men who feel marginalized to puff their chests and wear a lot of camouflage and jackboots to cover their paunch. Courage is a classical virtue whose cultivation helps support an excellent life. Aristotle would laugh at the feeble ideology of Alpha, let alone that Alpha is synonymous with courage. Check out the Nichomachean ethics for a much riche… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 06:04 PM |
| 1 | How much truth is there to the Red-pill concept of "Alpha Widow"?But alpha/beta isn't real. It's just an interpretation you're layering onto the facts, and not a very fitting interpretation. What's real is that some men are courageous, and others are cowards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:49 AM |
| – | The idea that these countless men who are struggling to get their equivalent are somehow ALL overrating their own appearance is just disingenuous. There are some men who do, sure but as a whole the disproportionate number of attractive men who have voiced this same complaint cannot be ignored.I'm saying that American culture is damning American men. First, it trains them to act like spoiled children who deserve everything they want. Then it trains them to dress and act like overgrown toddlers -- all camo and alpha and super-heroes, while walking around in dirty sneakers, eating crappy food, tottering about like a pre-schooler. You can tell an american man from a block away, in Europe. Then, when women find them distasteful, America trains the men to cultivate their resentments rather… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:28 AM |
| 5 | The idea that these countless men who are struggling to get their equivalent are somehow ALL overrating their own appearance is just disingenuous. There are some men who do, sure but as a whole the disproportionate number of attractive men who have voiced this same complaint cannot be ignored.I don’t think it is much to do with the men being ugly or overrating their appearance. I suspect it has more to do with young American men acting like children and watching porn all day, then wanting models when they can’t make it to the gym once a week. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Social calibration is most important for men when datingI think that’s largely true. I do have a wonderful friend with ASD. Despite being a genuinely lovely human being, and very bright, he has a terrible time with women for the reasons described. But he’s since married a wonderful woman with ASD, and they even have a son. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Most women can’t admit that they care about looks just/nearly as much as men because they see themselves as the sophisticated and non-primitive gender as opposed to men.That directly contradicts the evidence I see on the street, every day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Most women can’t admit that they care about looks just/nearly as much as men because they see themselves as the sophisticated and non-primitive gender as opposed to men.No, that was just serving as evidence. But I get that there's no ethos in an anonymous forum. I'm talking about the reality of women, who they are and how they behave. But given your ideological fragility regarding women, I suspect your conceptual blinders apply to a much more extensive realm of reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Most women can’t admit that they care about looks just/nearly as much as men because they see themselves as the sophisticated and non-primitive gender as opposed to men.Again, your theory is gumming up your ability to perceive reality clearly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 07:31 PM |
| 6 | Most women can’t admit that they care about looks just/nearly as much as men because they see themselves as the sophisticated and non-primitive gender as opposed to men.Believe it or not, doesn't matter to me. I bang a model-hot woman a few times a week -- my wife. I'm smart, charming, good looking, and I live in NYC where there's an abundance of beautiful women. Honestly, I've certainly had sex with a handful of 9s, and had amazing sex with plenty of other women (being a 9 isn't exactly a major criteria for me, though the woman needs to have fire and feel it in her body). But I've been rejected hundreds of times by women of all sorts, who did not have boyfrien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 07:07 PM |
| 3 | Most women can’t admit that they care about looks just/nearly as much as men because they see themselves as the sophisticated and non-primitive gender as opposed to men.Jesus, you're insane. Women like hot guys, but hotness for women is much more about the feeling they have while they're around the guy. Being tall or whatever may be conditions conducive to that feeling, but they're neither necessary nor sufficient. I've dated a number of women who were model-level hot. With some of them, we had amazing sex, with others it was so-so. The most objectively hot women I've slept with, and she was considerably younger and brilliant, too, was someone who checked all m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 06:57 PM |
| 46 | There is a hypocrisy around overweight women aka “landwhales”It’s VERY hard for most people to lose weight and keep it off. While I’m all for reasonable body positivity, we need to focus strongly on preventing children under 18 from becoming overweight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 08:11 PM |
| 1 | This girl set me up perfectlyWonderful — you’ve learned to seduce! Now it’s time to learn to have mind-blowing sex. At the same time, learn to build high-communication, high-bond, high-trust love relationships. | /r/seduction | 21/06/23 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?Look around, dude. The vast majority of women date below their level | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 08:07 PM |
| 2 | The sentiment “if you have an issue with all women, the problem isn’t all women - it’s you”This is one of the first sensible things I’ve read on this sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 02:43 PM |
| 1 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.Hmm, I don’t think your conclusion is valid. Can you spell out the syllogism, so I can see how my logic unfolds? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 04:33 PM |
| 4 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.No kidding — there’s way, WAY more decent and competent, emotionally stable women in the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Male feminists/Simps are often sexually and romantically inexperienced.More baseless speculation from the Department of Theoretical Resentments | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 08:13 PM |
| – | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestHey, it’s your choice to go on complaining, or to see through the BS your mind is spewing out to protect you from your perceived injury. We both know which path leads where you want to go, but that doesn’t mean it’s easy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 06:24 PM |
| – | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestNobody, least of all your female “friend,” wants you to continue hanging around with the attitude you’re showing here. Clearly it’s better for everyone if you move on. But that’s hardly a mark of emotional maturity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 05:55 PM |
| -2 | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestSo you made a friend. Then you got a crush on your friend. Then you hung around hoping she’d notice your crush for a while. Then you asked her for a hook-up. She rejected your advance. And now you want to stop being her friend. Sure, as long as you’re not harming her, you’re not doing anything seriously unethical. But nobody’s going to give you any applauds. And you’ve basically just demonstrated, again, why many women feel that guys make shitty friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Women should not get mad at their guy friends for ghosting them after they reject themYou’re complaining. Maybe you’d like to figure out how to do it better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Women should not get mad at their guy friends for ghosting them after they reject themDid you listen to the podcast? Are you here to learn to do better so you enjoy life and suffer less? Or do you just want to complain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Women should not get mad at their guy friends for ghosting them after they reject themThis is a very perceptive critique of “nice guys,” from a woman who’s very sympathetic to men and is looking to help them do better. https://open.spotify.com/episode/4np1g9U29vB3LPLampn4ln?si=qHL59myzSZqD3MVZ1-yqyQ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 12:26 PM |
| 3 | Y'all pushed us this far.You think that’s what you want, and you’re pursuing it legally and ethically — have at it! But that doesn’t make the ideology any less idiotic. And if you’re going around making internet arguments in favor of your bogus ideology, why shouldn’t others push-back? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:54 PM |
| 2 | Men being attracted to women = sexism or misogyny?That’s a pretty extreme position that’s not very common. I’ve complimented women many, many times, and rarely get anything worse than an odd look. The key is instrumentalization. If women feel that a guy is looking at them as an object to satisfy desire, they generally find it creepy. If a guy looks at a woman as a human being whose character and features arouse them, then compliments and interactions are usually welcome, or at least not creepy. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/23 06:33 PM |
| – | Most of the dating bitterness people have towards the opposite gender is a selection bias.But the competition isn’t actually that stiff — most things that people had to fight to get in the past are now easily accessible, including meaningful sex. It’s harder to get into Harvard, but you weren’t getting into Harvard in the past, either, unless you were an upper class East coast white guy. Still, there’s a perception of global competition that is enough to paralyze a certain subset of people, especially young men without much experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/23 05:19 PM |
| 1 | What are guys supposed to do to improve their situation realistically?Check out this podcast. She’s a friend to men, and genuinely wants to help them do it better. https://open.spotify.com/show/0lM5EjGKbQ8BpOGuV9E8TP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/23 02:30 AM |
| 1 | To guys with a high number of bodies(50+) how has it affected your life?Have passionate, intimate sex with woman you have sex with. Why would you do anything else? | /r/seduction | 11/06/23 02:26 AM |
| 35 | Women are allowed to complain about the suitors they get but men can'tJudging by this sub, men can and do complain about nearly everything. Ad nauseum | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 10:19 PM |
| 3 | Being Emotionally Available and a Good Communicator is Reduces the Chance for Sustained Attraction for Men Seeking a Relationship.It’s an American thing, in part. But also, it might well be that you’re getting too serious, too fast. Women generally want someone who’s emotionally vulnerable, but they want it to come from centered strength, not from neediness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Question for women: Would you submit to a rich man?Money doesn’t make a man more attractive (at least not for long). But, as any person who’s had a job will tell you, most people will exchange some of their liberty for monetary security. How much liberty they will sacrifice depends a lot on the person and the norms of the society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:01 PM |
| 9 | Even if Female Nature is true, there's no benefit being mad at it and we must accept it for what it isOnly a fool rails against nature. But more foolish still is to pretend to know nature, where one has only vague guesses and idle speculation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 12:57 PM |
| 2 | Since when did requiring physical attraction for a romantic relationship make you superficial?Attraction is essential. But people who focus too much on looks miss the big picture — it’s really more about smell | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:37 AM |
| 1 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenI tell men to learn from their mistakes and choose better next time, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 08:42 PM |
| 3 | How many people on this sub actually want casual sex?That’s a good part of the reason that women often don’t like ONS. But it doesn’t have to be that way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:34 PM |
| 5 | How many people on this sub actually want casual sex?Casual sex with passion and care for the other is a beautiful thing and wonderful opportunity to share pleasure and help each other grow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 12:07 PM |
| 3 | How many people on this sub actually want casual sex?Resentment and reactionary policies are destroying this country | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 12:01 PM |
| 1 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.Another loser theory about the top 10% of men, or whatever. Some women have responsive desire (I’d argue most women do). That means they need to be seduced — you have to learn to make them aroused. Most American men, once they get married, seem to do little and easy a lot. They stop dressing nicely, they stop buying flowers and doing special things. They stop expressing their desire for their wife. And, frankly, they never learn to be satisfactory lovers, let alone exceptional lovers. The wives … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are fine if the older party isn’t misrepresenting the relationship to the younger party.But it kind of depends, doesn’t it? I’ve been in some age gap relationships (from both sides of the gap), and the hot body was never more than the whipped cream on top — nice, but hardly the reason either of us liked the other.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 12:18 AM |
| 2 | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundanceOk, what’s the phenomena that your speculation is trying to explain, and how is that substantively different from my paraphrase? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundanceWhy are you wasting your time on this kind of speculation? Of course women tend to prefer more graceful and successful guys. And they tend not to get hot over socially awkward guys. Why? We’ll, a lot of reasons, surely. But a major one is probably that it’s often no fun spending time around people who don’t pay attention to you or others around them. It’s like asking why musicians who prefer to play with other musicians who are skilled and whose instruments are in tune. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 10:28 PM |
| – | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?No, but the general culture has had enough of the selfish, thoughtless habits that previous generations taught boys were an important part of masculinity. Time to get better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Why aren't men hypergamous?I’ll speak for myself — I’m not really someone who finds quantitative measures helpful in relationships. So no, I don’t seek that. But generally, the smarter, more cultured and more dynamic and more sexual and more powerful and more income the woman is, the better, everything else being equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 06:14 PM |
| 2 | CMV : A woman can almost ALWAYS find a better option within a couple of months of trying, so why would they settle?I think they’re not having sex because there’s a general sense of disgust with men and the gross, transactional nature of so much dating. And the Red Pill is the quintessence of transactional approaches to dating. Honestly, I don’t understand why ask the Red Pill guys don’t just go for sugar babies. If you want transactional sexual relationships, find someone who wants to provide that to you, and stop poisoning the rest of us with your resentment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 03:56 PM |
| 3 | Shaming men for being virgins or not getting women is cruel, mentally damaging and by far way worst than slut shaming is for women, in fact it severly affects women more than slut shaming doesI have never, in my middle aged life, been in a position where I felt remotely compelled to tell anyone whether I was a virgin or not. I’m not saying all virgins act that way. It takes some people longer than others to get comfortable with themselves, their bodies and sexuality, and the opposite sex. But the ones who talk about it all the time, and especially the ones blaming women and the world (of whom there are many online), have a very bad reputation. And justifiably! I cannot imagine why a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 05:38 PM |
| 8 | Shaming men for being virgins or not getting women is cruel, mentally damaging and by far way worst than slut shaming is for women, in fact it severly affects women more than slut shaming doesNobody really cares if you’re a virgin, except you. The problem with virgins is when they won’t shut up about how unfair women and the world are to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 03:54 PM |
| – | I don't think it's worth being with people who would leave you for crying or expressing vulnerability.I’ve always been quite open with my emotions. I cry in front of my girlfriends, and now my wife, with some regularity. It’s never been any kind of problem, at all. Just the opposite — increased vulnerability has always led to increased intimacy. And I’m a fairly dominant guy, who usually has dated very beautiful, strong women with a deep submissive streak. I highly doubt that most women, or even a substantial minority of women, would lose respect for a man for crying, per se. I suspect the probl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Most PEOPLE are undateable. Women are just held to a lower standard when it comes to undateable behaviorThis is nonsense. Get out of your head and look around without filtering everything through your wacky theory | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 03:18 PM |
| 1 | First date ran me through Are We Dating The Same Guy. I'm conflicted.I wouldn’t like for details of my date to be shared with thousands online. But that doesn’t seem fundamentally different from my experience growing up in a small town where word spreads instantaneously and your reputation is everything. Moreover, the fact that I don’t like for people to gossip about me doesn’t mean that it should be illegal for people to gossip about me, particularly when there’s a strong interest among women in knowing the kind of guy they might be dating. So you’re saying that… | /r/MensRights | 30/05/23 12:16 AM |
| 1 | First date ran me through Are We Dating The Same Guy. I'm conflicted.So what is the thing that should rightfully be private but is being disclosed here? The men can certainly receive compensation, if they can prove the libel occurred and they can demonstrate damage to their reputation. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/23 04:55 PM |
| 0 | First date ran me through Are We Dating The Same Guy. I'm conflicted.Wait, which part should be illegal? You think you have a right to privacy, but the conservative Supreme Court has rejected such a right. Still, let’s say you have a “Natural right” to privacy. Does that mean people should not allowed to speak about you or write about you in public forums? Of course, it should be illegal to write or say false things about someone and damage their reputation. But it already is — that’s called libel or slander. So victims have recourse to challenge lies and receive… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/23 11:21 AM |
| -3 | First date ran me through Are We Dating The Same Guy. I'm conflicted.Why? What do they do that’s so bad? | /r/MensRights | 29/05/23 01:57 AM |
| -8 | First date ran me through Are We Dating The Same Guy. I'm conflicted.You thought you were living in a big city, and it turns out you’re in a small town, at least when it comes to dating. Treat women with deep respect, as they deserve, and it shouldn’t be much of a problem | /r/MensRights | 28/05/23 04:27 PM |
| – | Most men and women are really bad at detecting flirting“She’s into you” just means there’s a baseline of interest. It means you have an opportunity to move forward, if you don’t scare it up. It doesn’t man she likes you more than everyone else, or she wants to sleep with you, or she wants to marry you, or she wants to meet your parents, or have your babies, etc. It just means you haven’t been excluded, yet. Take your time, respect and love women deeply as human beings, don’t be afraid to make mistakes, and you’ll get better at it. Americans aren’t c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 04:14 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexIn my experience, many women LOVE to be treated like a piece of meat. But usually only when it’s within the larger context of a man’s deep care and respect for the woman as a full human being. Men don’t want to be treated like meat — they want to be worshipped like gods. But then they don’t put in any effort to become godlike. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 02:01 PM |
| 6 | Lying Flatism and Singlehood on the RiseAmerica has such incredible wealth. One can live very well in the USA without working very much, if they don’t get seduced by the American need to have giant living spaces and giant cars and tons of things to fill up all that empty space | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Personality can't compensate for looksJesus, can we stop obsessing over all this stuff!?! Look around — there’s lots of people who are married or in long term relationships. Very few of those people are super hot by any conventional standard. Clearly, it’s far from impossible to find a stable partner, regardless of looks. Now if you’re obsessing with Instagram models or the It girl at school, or whatever, then yes. You’ll probably need to be exceptional in a few ways to get a date, let alone a relationship. But is that really a trut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 11:21 AM |
| 1 | Study show that straight women are disproportionaly more likely to search porn with violence against women and where they are being raped abused and endure physical violence, than straight men do.Not surprising. Many women enjoy being dominated and used, if it’s done with care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Goes on to show how easy it is for a woman to frame a man when he is completely innocent. Without video proof, there is essentially nothing you can do.Anyone can accuse anyone else of anything. Convincing a jury is much harder | /r/AntiFeminists | 24/05/23 04:29 PM |
| -2 | Ironically, interacting more with girls is what got me redpilled, not Tate or whoeverThis is just looney. You sound like a whiner. Modern men gave more power than men of any previous period. But they piss it all away complaining instead of getting to work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 12:09 PM |
| 1 | How do redpillers explain the engagement of jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez?Red Pill is a cluster of resentments that’s billed as a theory of the sexes and spends its time searching for confirming evidence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 12:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Women DO have varied taste, but it’s not anywhere near as unique as they think. Men would do best to adhere to the “fundamentals”That just doesn’t comport with experience. Seems like a theory built to support an already-existent conclusion, not an actual inference from experience. Most of the masculine, dominant guys I know are in small towns in the Midwest. They’re doing ok, I guess, but nothing social after the High School glory days. On the other hand, the men I know who are with really amazing, beautiful women at are all kinds, but mostly soft spoken and fairly gentle in character, and not at all a Chad (though also n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:04 PM |
| 0 | Most of the posters on this sub prove that women only exist to men if they are a 6/10 +Yeah, everything u/lolgobbz said. Waitressing is a much more physically demanding job. It’s also much more emotionally exhausting — you need to deal with people making immediate demands on you all day, often using you to satisfy their dissatisfaction regarding their placement in the pecking order. And the work-day stress is much higher. There’s a lot more ways it’s harder, honestly. And, obviously, in some ways waiting tables is easier. But, in case you find my claim unlikely, just ask people — … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 12:36 PM |
| 9 | Most of the posters on this sub prove that women only exist to men if they are a 6/10 +Have you ever waited tables in an expensive restaurant? That’s a super-hard job, much harder than banking or whatever. And nobody gets rich doing those jobs, though it’s possible to be comfortable. Nevertheless, it’s definitely easier for beautiful women to get certain jobs. Which is better than nothing, since they get discriminated against like crazy in most intellectually challenging jobs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 01:30 AM |
| 3 | UK: Female avoids jail for drug dealing: The boyfriend convicted of the same offence receives a 9 year jail sentnce.This woman only was shown to have driven her boyfriend to the drug house a few times. She doesn’t seem to have been a leader of the operation in any way, but was instead the girlfriend of the leader. In what bizarro world would it make sense to give her a comparable sentence? | /r/MensRights | 19/05/23 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Women get respected less, men are wanted less.This is one of the first interesting takes I’ve seen on this sub. It’s not based in resentment or grievance, or the nonsense “traditionalist” philosophies that grow from such grievance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 11:58 AM |
| 0 | AI girlfriends will allow men to fully be themselves and thus will radically change their standards for womenYour presuppositions are false. I once picked up an incredibly beautiful, brilliant woman, leading to a 2 month summer fling, by talking about how men cry and how that’s a demonstration of strength. Just because a bunch of naive boys made a meme about something doesn’t mean it’s true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 11:35 AM |
| 3 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingThis is just all so weird. Indeed, most women like a guy who takes care of his body and has a good figure. That’s not some secret mystery red pill stuff, that’s just common sense. And you don’t need to hide that fact from a girl. Why should you be embarrassed that you’re trying to make yourself attractive? Nevertheless, talking about it is just in bad taste, and likely to provoke a negative reaction— why do that? So no one will think your red pill if you talk about excruciating so that you’re ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 01:12 AM |
| 4 | The mockery directed toward's peterson's crying on live Tv is proof of women's loathing of weak emotional men.JP has gone on record, extensively, as a person who knows so well how to live life that he’s going to guide other people (boys) on how to do it. The apparent misery of his life is thus very relevant to his standing as a public intellectual | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 05:54 PM |
| 2 | It appears that women don't want menApproach hasn’t been demonized. Like always, it’s received better by side than others, and depends a great deal on the way you go about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 03:37 PM |
| 3 | The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned womenWhy would you care? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 02:40 AM |
| – | For any man with abundance/options, there is no benefit to choosing a promiscuous womanQED /s Dude, your virgin purity fetish is showing. Don’t try to smear it all over me. The bodycount is all in your head. Women are not fungible commodities. Quantitative comparisons reveal next to nothing. You fuck person, with her own consciousness and preferences and ideas and history. And, if things go well, you end up in a relationship with a person. There is inexhaustible depth to everyone. But you can to find someone you’d like to explore for a lifetime, and who feels that way about you. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 08:05 PM |
| -1 | The issue is that women dislike how male sexuality is different from theirs but they still expect men to pursue.You should use your mind to tear down the walls of your socially-constructed prison, not build the walls higher. Most of what you're saying is about 30% true. Which means it's 70% false. These kinds of social phenomena are far too fuzzy and complex to be accurately theorized. Let go of your smart ideas, and go out there and talk to women. Just try to have some respect for them as people when you're doing so | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:45 PM |
| 1 | You have to approach women to get a relationshipThat's nonsense. Anyone could accuse you of anything, anytime. If you talk to a woman, even ask her for her number or for a date, you're fine. The problem would be if she doesn't respond, or responds negatively, and you persist. That's harassment. So don't harass her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Missing out on teen love as a male can be hugely detrimental in later years while courting a woman.It doesn't matter when you learn to date and seduce. It's always a little awkward, until you do it enough that you get comfortable with it. These days, with the internet and all that, I think there's many people in their mid-20s who have never really dated IRL. Just start going for it, making a fool of yourself, laughing about it, and moving on to try again. Treat everyone with deep respect for their humanity, and otherwise forget all the "rules." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:09 PM |
| 5 | Women claiming to be 'Sapiosexual' often do so either inaccurately or as code for something else.Jesus Christ, man! Sapiosexual means they prefer to fuck smart people who can and do engage in extended, two way conversations about meaningful topics. Maybe they even like nerds who fuck. Get out there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 01:51 PM |
| 0 | Causing arousal isn’t the same thing as causing happiness/enjoyment in a relationshipBad boys do pretty well. But female sexual arousal is 1000x more complex and subtle and diverse than RP people think. RP’s masculine ideals seem to derive from a bunch of basement dwellers watching too much porn and superhero flicks. I agree completely that it’s very important to be able to get the woman wet that you’re seducing, or are in a LT relationship with. That’s like second priority, after appreciation of her humanity and autonomy. But the ridiculous formula that RP people believe arouse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 07:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tacticTotally agree. This RP stuff, and so much of sexual/dating norms in the US, are completely made up bullshit. People should date widely, and learn to trust their gut. Life is not a video game | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 01:31 PM |
| 0 | As a man, your perceived ability to get casual sex will define the tone of every long term relationship you haveHaving a man who can easily get laid does not, generally, make a woman more secure in her relationship. It might make her feel good about herself that he keeps picking her, but the inherent risk causes some worry and instability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 12:25 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men aren't assholes for treating you different after a rejectionUnder what magical circumstances do a large percentage of women start spewing hate and shame to a man over DMs? I can’t imagine any that don’t include the man first being a total douche. Yet a large percentage of men seem to do it, just because their sexual advances were rejected | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 12:40 PM |
| 2 | Utter nonsense from the mouths of feminists... Yet again...Indeed, and some people need to learn how to earn it, apparently | /r/MensRights | 25/04/23 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?I LOVE when my wife goes out in revealing clothes. Obviously, it's most fun when we're together, but I even enjoy her going out on her own in very slutty clothes (to the extent I believe she'll be safe, of course). Over the time of our marriage, we've gotten to the point where she almost never wears panties while with me, and typically wears hot-pants or mini-skirts. Such a joy. If you want to have a boundary that says your girlfriend can't wear revealing clothes, then enforcement of that bounda… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:17 PM |
| 1 | When a girl says she loves you, what she loves is what you do for her, how you make her feel and the lifestyle she's able to participate in by being with you.Existence precedes essence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 07:14 PM |
| 7 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same wayThe levels of compounded resentment fueling this misogynistic screed are innumerable. It’s such a bad argument, so completely divorced from anything but the collective imagination of so many lonely young men, that it’s not worth arguing about. Go talk to some real people, in real life. And more than taking, try listening | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 01:30 AM |
| -2 | Why do woman make accusations of rape so casually?They don’t! It’s quite rare. In fact, of the people with whom I have direct experience and can speak with some confidence, there’s almost twice as many women who have been sexually assaulted as men who have been falsely accused of some kind of sexual assault. And only one of those false accusations ever made it into a police report, so it was mostly just a bit of reputational damage and threats to the guy. Similarly, I don’t know ANY women who have successfully reported sexual assault to the pol… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/23 07:00 PM |
| – | Women lie about their partner preferences. They self-report preference for intelligent and ambitious men, but they chose the most attractive ones ignoring other traits.Yeah, that’s entirely true for online dating. But, in the real world, intelligence and ambition are hot to women, as long as the smart, ambitious guy isn’t a bore or socially inappropriate/immature. It’s just that smart, ambitious guys are too often self-absorbed gamers with a bunch of ideas and not a lot of follow through. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 01:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: What’s the point of marriage when it only benefits women?How about working to make yourself an excellent lover and decent human being that can have a genuine, mutually beneficial relationship with someone? Who cares whether you get married | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 12:38 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The perception that men are inherently (or most likely to be) net drains on women's lives drives more men to RedPill/Blackpill ideologiesMaybe the problem is that American masculinity is a deeply flawed norm? We should be working hard to shape new, better norms of masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 11:54 AM |
| 1 | This is the same thing as passport bros, but of course since it's women it's ok.It seems fair to say that American culture has rendered femininity toxic. And it's rendered masculinity even more toxic. Just look at the stupid examples in our stupid movies | /r/MensRights | 11/04/23 02:41 PM |
| 2 | The “don’t approach women IRL” is a zoomer thing…right?I approach women all the time, in the wild. I’m happily married, and would never get their numbers or ask for a date or anything. But I engage in a little small talk and light flirtation. I’m a smart, handsome guy, and I’m sure that helps a lot. But I get very good responses | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 04:06 PM |
| 1 | How are men supposed to even get a relationship nowadays?Accept that not everyone is going to love you, some will criticize you no matter what you do. That’s the reality of human society. Then be your best self, and go talk to women. Pay attention to them, try to enjoy their enjoyment, and cultivate it. If you’re having fun after five minutes, ask her for coffee or something. It’s really not that hard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 02:43 AM |
| 3 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"Absolutely. We don’t need a higher birthdate in the US — the world has too many people, and the US can always increase immigration. But women of means should be freed from the conception that having a child requires the consistent participation of a man. Men aren’t really needed for much, and they’re often little better than another child for the woman to tend to. Obviously, conception is relatively simple. Raising children is harder. People can band together to raise children outside of sexual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 06:24 PM |
| 1 | op said women and men should be wary around men because most rapists are men,so i asked her if men are justified in not believing women because most false allegations come from women,she didn't know what to respond so instead reported me and made the mods ban me lmaoRight. And my response is that you’re analogy sucks, because: 1) women are sexually assaulted by men far more often than men are falsely accused by women. So the likelihood of half is much smaller for men 2) sexual assault is much worse than false accusations, especially since many people don’t believe a woman’s accusations against a man, whether true or false. 3) False accusations almost universally come from angry, former sexual partners. One can largely avoid false accusations by working hard… | /r/MensRights | 09/02/23 03:42 PM |
| 1 | op said women and men should be wary around men because most rapists are men,so i asked her if men are justified in not believing women because most false allegations come from women,she didn't know what to respond so instead reported me and made the mods ban me lmao?!? I’m not aware of anyone who supports women making false accusations against men. Or of anyone making false accusations against anyone else. That’s literally one of the most universally despised actions, possible, in nearly every society. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/23 03:25 PM |
| -1 | op said women and men should be wary around men because most rapists are men,so i asked her if men are justified in not believing women because most false allegations come from women,she didn't know what to respond so instead reported me and made the mods ban me lmaoNot a great response on her part. But false accusations are vastly less common than sexual assault. It's a bit like asking if you should be worried about women because most of the people cutting off penises are women. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/23 11:55 PM |
| 0 | Anyone here become extremely frustrated with how unnecessarily shitty and difficult dating has become for men and how inflated women’s egos are now due to social media, OLD and feminism/female empowerment?I love liberated women. Especially submissive ones | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/01/23 05:58 PM |
| -2 | So I posted on a "support forum" for depressed people, in a section called "rant about anything". I put how I was sickened by all the hate aimed at men. What happened? Feminists swarmed, got called incel, neckbeard, blah blah blah.There's plenty to hate about the current culture of masculinity. Personally, I have sympathy for (and deep experience with) the plight of post-modern men, trapped in a ridiculous cultural cage that cuts off kindness and connection, and seeks to blame others rather than find ways to build and change and improve. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/23 04:55 AM |
| 1 | Why is it ok for a woman to take everything from the man?You need a lawyer. Tell them the facts, and what you want to happen. She is likely required to split the proceeds from sale of the house | /r/MensRights | 01/01/23 04:42 PM |
| -1 | The inception continuesRates of SA are even between men and women?!? I find that VERY hard to believe. For one thing, the perpetrators of SA are almost entirely men, and homosexual men are, at most, 10% of the population. | /r/AntiFeminists | 15/12/22 12:45 PM |
| -10 | If I have to earn all the money, pay all the bills, and do all the housework...WHY the fuck would I keep her around?American men often behave like spoiled children until long after the time has come to grow up. | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/12/22 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Misandrist postYou just don’t ever meet such extreme cases in the wild. So the right response seems to be too suggest that the idea is ludicrous and not remotely representative of feminists, rather than to condemn the idea. | /r/AntiFeminists | 12/12/22 05:14 PM |
| -8 | Misandrist postAnyone who thinks that more than a small handful of feminists think “kill all men” is a good idea, or even a clever provocation, needs to meet more actual women and talk to them like human beings | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/12/22 05:59 PM |
| -8 | There's been so much talk of American men leaving to find better options overseas lately. Bye Feminism 👋American femininity is dry and hyper-rationalized. Still better than American masculinity, though | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/12/22 01:52 PM |
| 0 | Go to the post and look at the comments.Are some guys really so dense that you think this is hypocrisy? Obviously, the two situations are meaningfully different | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/12/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | I did it. I finally got banned. All because I called them out on their hypocrisyMaybe instead of “The same amount of energy” devoted to the problems, it should be proportional amounts of energy. Which is probably about the amount that get devoted to the two problems, in fact | /r/AntiFeminists | 03/12/22 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Well, well, well. These westerner american cancerous cunts caught massive L in 4kAre these actually western women? | /r/AntiFeminists | 03/12/22 06:21 PM |
| -17 | Shout out to OP for making the right perfect decision of his own personal choices. What a true Chad he wasIf I hadn’t already learned to bea great lover, and to make my girl cum and cum, then I’d be very concerned about letting her sleep with other men. That said, some guys are into humiliation! | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/12/22 03:24 PM |
| 1 | poor simpI don't know about you, but I really like f*cking. The more the merrier, if they're hot | /r/AntiFeminists | 01/12/22 04:56 PM |
| -6 | poor simpProstitution is often a form of care giving. So is stripping — most of those lonely fucks on the barstool at the club are really just seeking caring touch. As for the guy, he seems to know it’s normal to feel jealous. But he’s in love with the girl, and she’s chosen to be a sex worker. Maybe she’s a porn star? That wouldn’t be caring, but it’s gotta be tough for him. He should leave, or persuade her to quit. But if he doesn’t want to do the former, and can’t do the latter, he might as well learn… | /r/AntiFeminists | 30/11/22 11:50 PM |
| 1 | It's a sad truth.What!?! I’ve literally never heard of any feminist saying or writing that men can’t experience trauma. There might be some really crazy person who said that, somewhere, but kind of I doubt it. Why not try to critique actual problems with feminism in a broader sense that’s accepted by more than a small handful of people? Just putting up straw men and knocking them down is easy, but futile and only serves to make you feel angry and self-righteous. | /r/AntiFeminists | 20/11/22 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Apparently it's wrong for men to be supporting eachother now! 🙄We each know where the shoe pinches. That said, her criticism isn’t wrong. The profound alienation of so many young men, and the objectification of women as mere objects to serve men’s pleasure, has much to do with the flood of porn into their developing brains. Why do Americans watch so much more porn than anyone else? My suspicion is that its because we’re ashamed of sensuality and sexuality, so restrict it to our darkened rooms. Young men would learn much better lessons about seduction and se… | /r/AntiFeminists | 14/11/22 01:21 PM |
| 2 | The audacity, and the support here is unreal.Not at all afraid. But I’m saying your inference is bogus. First, it’s far from clear that this is not a fake account, so why would I be confident it was written by a woman. Second, even if it is real, there’s nothing about her lousy opinion which has anything significant to do with her claiming to be a feminist. No more than her opinion has anything to do with her being an Indian. | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/11/22 05:24 PM |
| -2 | The audacity, and the support here is unreal.You mean that it’s written by someone claiming to be an Indian person? | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/11/22 05:02 PM |
| -5 | The audacity, and the support here is unreal.What’s this have to do with feminism? Seems like this is just a person recommending that other people act like scumbags. People have cheated on spouses and lied about it for at least as long as people have been getting married | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/11/22 11:28 AM |
| 0 | When a feminist is pregnantIt’s clearly a joke | /r/AntiFeminists | 12/11/22 03:47 AM |
| 4 | Feminism has become so unstable that they just throw the word "Misogyny" around.You don’t see a great deal of hatred for women in pages like this? | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/11/22 12:02 AM |
| 0 | Man gets humiliated, women most affected!Are you mocking my argument?!? | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/11/22 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Man gets humiliated, women most affected!"if a man can't answer on the stuff he is making presentation about, he's an idiot," would be true if it were normal questions that one might expect to arise in the expected audience. But literally any presentation can be thrown off by a bad-faith questioner who has substantial subject matter expertise. And if the presenter is not a subject matter expert, then one can just research all kinds of super obscure, weird details that aren't particularly relevant to the larger presentation. | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/11/22 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Man gets humiliated, women most affected!I sure do get to decide whether his response was appropriate or not! And I also get to argue for why my judgment is the best one. Just like you do. If you think this kind of response is appropriate, or that it's good for anyone, it's no surprise that you're so mad at feminists. Imagine if every time a man talked down to a woman while she was doing a presentation, she spent days planning and executing an elaborate revenge plot that left the guy publicly humiliated and crying in front of everyone.… | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/11/22 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Man gets humiliated, women most affected!I mean, she probably spent 8 seconds "mocking" his presentation. A proportional response would have been justified, perhaps. | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/11/22 02:49 PM |
| -6 | Man gets humiliated, women most affected!Absolutely! Assuming he's speaking accurately and not exaggerating her mere criticisms of his presentation, her behavior deserves criticism. And if her ridicule were the end of the story, it might be an example of how not to treat people. But then our man goes on a four day bender of planning for vengeance. He thinks out how he can hurt her, does research to learn her subject, then studies it in such a way to maximize her pain. The whole thing is utterly depressing, frankly kind of scary, and ex… | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/11/22 04:01 AM |
| -4 | Man gets humiliated, women most affected!I don't know, I personally hold women responsible for things all the time. And everybody around me does that, too. Guys talk over everyone and put down presenters, all the time. And they should be criticized for that. And it's just as wrong if a woman is insulting or ridiculing some guy who's doing his best to give a good presentation, even if he's not doing a good job of it. If she's just giving negative feedback, and not great at it, then she might just need to improve her feedback-giving-sk… | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/11/22 03:51 AM |
| -18 | Man gets humiliated, women most affected!She criticized his presentation, and he spent four days trying to figure out how to completely humiliate her in public. I mean, I don’t know what she said, and maybe it was truly awful. But from the facts presented, this guy comes off like a demented loser. He’d have been better off spending those four days figuring out how to give a kick-ass presentation. | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/11/22 02:45 AM |
| -10 | You should support neither, it has nothing to do with gender but you’re turning it into a boys vs girls thing.Why would anyone assume this is a woman writing? Seems more likely to be a man, given the language use. In particular, my money is on it being a man working multiple accounts to try to stir up resentment and discord in English speaking countries by saying preposterous things that a few people take seriously for some reason. | /r/AntiFeminists | 07/11/22 02:29 PM |
| 0 | So, now THEY are the victims?That is preposterous. Nobody has any reason to worry about getting prosecuted by the state for standing near a woman or complimenting her, unless the person was standing next to her with his cock in his hand, or complimenting her while holding her at knife point. A superior might lose his job for an off-color compliment or comment, but only if he was already in a precarious position. It’s really not a thing that happens. | /r/AntiFeminists | 07/11/22 05:02 AM |
| -3 | So, now THEY are the victims?This is obviously a fake story. Why are you guys so obsessed with your victimhood? | /r/AntiFeminists | 07/11/22 12:39 AM |
| 0 | The rape of the Sabine womenIt’s really not a common claim among feminists. I’d be surprised if you could find a SINGLE instance of a non-satirical feminist claiming that the oppression of women was similar in scope and intensity to the oppression of slaves in the antebellum south. That said, “ownership” is not a simple term. In the sense in which “property” OS used in US law, for instance, it would be entirely fair to say that both Victorian women and US slaves were property, while still being able to maintain that the ca… | /r/AntiFeminists | 03/11/22 05:52 PM |
| 2 | The rape of the Sabine womenThere’s degrees of systematic oppression! No one ever claimed women were historically as oppressed as slaves in the antebellum South. Again, women are 50% of the population, and the mothers of everyone. The oppression is clear from the fact that women were excluded from nearly all positions of authority and official decision making roles. But that doesn’t mean they were without any say in anything! | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/11/22 11:26 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of 1st wave feminism?What is the corruption in third wave feminism? I love it | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/11/22 09:18 PM |
| 0 | The rape of the Sabine women"If ancient Rome was a Patriarchy, in the sense that feminists mean, then neither the Roman not Sabine men would have paid any heed to a bunch of wailing women. Rather, then as now, the men wanted to keep their wives and daughters safe and happy and took their opinions in to account." What a bogus proposition. One can systematically oppress a class of people while still nominally considering their opinions. If you never consider their opinions, it's awfully hard to keep them under your thumb, es… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/11/22 08:49 PM |
| 3 | males do not experience mental traumaWhat's the source for this information about 1/6 boys vs 1/4 girls? I find this hard to believe, though it's not impossible. Usually, information from quality sources provides those sources. So what are the sources of this info? | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/11/22 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Women who sexually like men, are you personally not that visually stimulated by our bodies?Women are totally attracted to beautiful bodies. But that attraction is in conversation with their feelings in relation to subtler aspects of personality like voice-tone, posture, language, smell and touch, Men tend to focus on a smaller part of women -- the visual form, while women take in a bigger picture. As for the rest, try meditating or exercising, and get over the absurd jealousy/comparisons. Get out of your head, and back into your body and feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 04:26 PM |
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