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Cowboy Code is where I Belong.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/21 05:54 AM
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Please reference this highly thought cogent post. T Y Not my original content
/r/TheRedPill21/01/21 02:23 AM
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>Will this help get you laid? Getting laid and gaining knowledge, wisdom and skill are 2 different objectives. non sequitur in thought above,
/r/TheRedPill17/01/21 10:32 PM
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They're not listening to me because they can't. They're plugged in and they don't want to see the truth. They enjoy being slaves. Cognitive Dissonances own your parents except Confirmation Bias also plays into their psyche. Go with your gut, leave them in their parent bubble.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/20 02:59 PM
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As an older Red Pill adherent this is gold mine stuff. If you've been doing everything right, she should be the one to say "What are We", "Are we dating", "Are you seeing other girls", Let a woman work for her life with you. She needs a trophy guy, be that guy. Allow her to do her feminine work.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/20 04:33 PM
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If you say it drunk, it still counts. If you want this Norton 650, I'll buy it. My Dad, the day after he offered me a high end Norton motorcycle that 2 Brooklynn thieves had stolen and were offering him to buy for me. It was n't for me, I turned it down and my father was greatly relieved to not have to buy me a motorcycle cause he said he would when they got him drunk. But don't get drunk. Frame control is extremely important. Nothing we don't already know.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/20 03:04 AM
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Leave Mia alone she had her 15 minutes months of fame. We are not lacking for women who wish to disrobe.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 05:54 PM
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Meat of post broken up to read easily with brief comments: To conclude, you can join what may very well be a generation of physically weak porn addicted overly-consumerist childless men and women Be part of the trash / consumer society. or you can decide to lead the change and be the person you’re destined to be, Become the full Red Pill you, thru work and effort. a symbol of greatness; a showing of the lineage of thousands of years of hard work and perseverance. Demonstrate to your self and oth…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/20 11:32 AM
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Buy sex and get off. Start fresh.
/r/seduction01/03/20 03:35 PM
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FWB posts needed.
/r/seduction23/02/20 09:41 PM
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Make certain you are in the same room / space as much as possible. Be polite, tell a joke, be fun, don't be pushy. The more she see you, the better your chances. {Unless she doesn't like you like that, then you are done / fini}.
/r/seduction22/01/20 03:30 AM
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You have to dance well for its maximum value.
/r/seduction06/11/19 03:30 PM
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the girl in question has ten Alpha-Chads in her social circle that she could schedule a date with in a matter of seconds I doubt this, 10 Chads. Alpha Chads don't hang waiting for girls, girls wait for them Now if you mean 10 Beta Boys, you still have game. Cause they will all tell her how pretty she is ... You will tell her interesting witty things that move her to your camp. Worse, it never works the same way all the time so keep trying.
/r/seduction06/11/19 03:23 PM
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Practice your clips in front of the mirror. Speak well.
/r/seduction02/11/19 10:17 PM
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Elevate your 30 / 60 / 90 second elevator pitch. Practice it.
/r/seduction02/11/19 10:14 PM
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Take her for a walk someplace interesting. rock garden, sea shore, woods, walk a bridge, museum, visit The Troll under the Fremont bridge in Seattle. or find your local place of interest. Start a conversation, keep it light, compliment her.
/r/seduction21/10/19 02:38 PM
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How do I now seduce her and not be such a pussy about asking her out? not be a pussy by asking her out. seduce her by being the male she wants to put out for.
/r/seduction21/10/19 02:34 PM
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As I leave I walk up to her, she looks up and gives me a big smile and I smile and go “I think you dropped this” then place the note next to her and walk off As I leave I walk up to her, she looks up and gives me a big smile and I smile and go "How about I walk you home when you are done?" Wait for her response. FTFY tl:dr: As directly, you have already been eye googling each other for a while.
/r/seduction21/10/19 02:21 PM
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the girl looks at me right away and says she'll come too. I'll bet the bra and panties were a matched set. That is always a big cue that sex was anticipated.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/19 12:29 PM
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Since I hit 10 yesterday night, Upgrade to the highest quality female you can. ate dinner and drinks later. I come from a drinks restricted background (Baptist) like your Muslim prohibition on alcohol. Drinks are optional and not required. They lubricate and can help. You can still have a great time with out drinking. Sex is it's own turn on. Keep studying Buddy, Keep up grading
/r/TheRedPill10/10/19 12:23 PM
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You are a college kid, with a lot of unknown women filtering by. You can talk to others and expand your horizons. It is what you are supposed to do in college.
/r/seduction10/10/19 01:34 AM
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I had an epiphany: I was finally on a date with my dream unicorn girl. I even had the chance to have sex with her, Oh the assumptions we / one make when first starting out. No, she was not your unicorn, if she was, you would have been entranced. Just adding, there will be some one, some time, if you are lucky, and don't do Blue Pill things. There will be one that is so good, so damn good, you may not be able to tell any one, cause you can't /won't believe it your self. Mean while, keep looking B…
/r/TheRedPill10/10/19 01:26 AM
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At least you know when she was at that bakery. You could ask the help if she is a regular. Next time say "Hi, how are you"
/r/seduction09/10/19 11:19 PM
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I’m gonna try some complimenting next time Don't get too BETA, you are going to be in class with her. Relax. You have plenty of time to see if there something beyond a pretty face, a co-ed, and nice demeanor. Plus you need to talk to other also.
/r/seduction09/10/19 11:15 PM
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Proceed full speed ahead Sailor, the port wants a new ship visit. She is offering you her (pussy) port when you get to town, Sailor. You just have to steer until this happens naturally so she thinks that you having her is her idea when it is both of your ideas. You already are getting IOI, that is her first base.
/r/seduction09/10/19 11:11 PM
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If you are over 18, I'll clarify. otherwise DM when you are an adult (18)
/r/seduction09/10/19 10:57 PM
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The second time may the charm. Even the third, Girls take time to come around from an initial meh interest.
/r/seduction09/10/19 08:23 PM
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Silence is golden, when confidence rides underneath. Stare away and slay.
/r/seduction09/10/19 06:55 PM
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We're going to a local bar. Then you are going to say, "We should have sex today, soon." "Would you like me to provide a hotel room or go back to your place?"
/r/seduction09/10/19 06:53 PM
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Ask her out again. (you coward) The past is done, now try for a near future date. Hey Steph, you interested going with me to (--place-----) on (--time---) Want to come with me ?
/r/seduction09/10/19 06:48 PM
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A wife in an Love Marriage not an arranged marriage needs to be vetted over a year. You start by spending time with her and going on dates / places together You evaluate her every step of the way. Your first step is to get off the damn devices and meet face to face. Do some thing together, this is basic.
/r/seduction09/10/19 06:32 PM
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She always stands just a little too close or lightly brushes against me She looks my in the eye and holds eye contact when one of us is talking IOIs ... look it up, from another infamous subReddit. Proceed full speed ahead Sailor, the port wants a new ship visit.
/r/seduction09/10/19 06:30 PM
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Once you find her interests and where she spends her time ... you go there. Engage if possible, or just scope out her domain. Now figure out if she has any outside interests: husband, children, pets, clubs, groups, working out routines, attending religious services. You need to know enough ... is she available and DTF. Some women love younger men, and don't take this as anything other than a fling. Good luck, (this is stupid, but you are young and stupid almost stupid.)
/r/seduction09/10/19 06:22 PM
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Is there anything i need to do different from usual ? You need to assess whether you want to bang her and when and where. If she is 33F and you are 20M, you two are together for only one reason. That is culminating in mutual agreed upon sex. She has not said that, but unless she is a moron, she is 13 years your senior. She wants her pussy pounded and a sophisticated seduction. Your job is to do this.
/r/seduction09/10/19 02:47 PM
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Red Pill Personified. Concise and Informative.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/19 08:05 PM
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I told her it wasn't anything special and ended the coveration, but I know she'll keep asking, since she's very curious. This could be considered a Shit Test. Be careful giving away info that doesn't need to be said.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/19 01:26 PM
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Reddit. It so badly wants to be cool like Facebook Is this true? or just an opinion? I thought FaceNook was less than Reddit. i.e. Reddit > FaceNook Learn something new every day. Oh Well.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/19 07:35 PM
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A certain type of girl has few or no girl friends. She is liked by a group of guys, maybe accepted in a group. (Carly Simon wrote extensively about this in her autobiography) girls on the internet who seem to have no friends (apart from online ones), no social life, who are basically hermits, who still have boyfriends I married one like this, she and others like her were focused on the near future with someone of the opposite sex. Usually men like this, not having to deal with girlfriends who: d…
/r/seduction21/09/19 02:05 PM
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This is called Flirting it is playful banter.
/r/seduction16/09/19 11:54 AM
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Old School Thought: Banging the wife at will anytime has always been a goal I reach for. It is an old idea that still works. If a woman is not willing to do this ... She is not the woman for you.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/19 07:19 PM
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Karma Happens, Yasmin Thomas is over due.
/r/PussyPass23/08/19 07:13 PM
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Just tell her you will be happy to grudge f**k her. Give her a time and date. Ex, I am available tonight for an hour to nail your pudenda, Then you have to leave. Had to reposition a former post. Still applies.
/r/seduction01/08/19 07:17 PM
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the dude she left me for ended up cheating on her. Hence her renewed interest in an old flame.
/r/seduction30/07/19 04:46 PM
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if i pulled back more and ignored her from time to time? This is a great move, let her use her energy to get her to a nice quiet place where she will take off all her clothes and ask for your services. Just make no promises.
/r/seduction30/07/19 04:44 PM
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If she keeps texting, she wants some attention. She remembers your good times and want some of that.
/r/seduction30/07/19 03:56 PM
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You sir are a r/Madlad.
/r/seduction30/07/19 02:37 PM
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Why is PIV fun? A slow easy smile leads to a slow easy rise in likeability. It is an actor's tool. Face manipulation. And when done properly (which takes work / practice) is a force multiplier.
/r/seduction30/07/19 02:35 PM
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Bro chose the apartment. You have no idea how silly young college kids are. Sanity man.
/r/seduction30/07/19 03:23 AM
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Just tell her you will be happy to grudge f**k her. Give her a time and date. Ex, I am available tonight for an hour to nail your pudenda, Then you have to leave.
/r/seduction30/07/19 03:21 AM
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Should I have done something different? Did you ever consider listening to her and acting accordingly? "not on the first date". Throughout the next couple of minutes I keep trying for like 5 times but it is the same response every time,
/r/seduction30/07/19 03:18 AM
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Can you guys give me advice so this date goes smoothly Don't be an asshole. Don't overthink her. Don't be needy, ask her some questions. Learn a slow smile to full smile in 7+ seconds (slowly).
/r/seduction30/07/19 03:15 AM
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Like Chateau said, never put the pussy on a pedestal. Father Time spares nobody, and I'm not going to waste my prime youth weekends getting friend zoned. I need to re look at this wisdom. TY
/r/TheRedPill28/07/19 03:41 AM
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Integrity ... the one trait Warren Buffet requires in all his hires. be fair and honorable. Be Fair, Honorable = Integrity A powerful tool in one's tool box.
/r/TheRedPill26/07/19 09:11 PM
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She likes to wear sexy clothes. She likes attention. She isn't interested in you.
/r/seduction18/07/19 04:48 PM
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If she is interested in you sexually, you win enter her hotel room for possible sexy times. if she is not interested in you ... no entrance. She will let you know by her actions. Good luck.
/r/seduction18/07/19 04:46 PM
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LDR are fantasy time. When the bubble bursts, you just get misty wet. Try to meet someone G D Geographically Desirable. Not G U Geograghically Undesirable.
/r/seduction17/07/19 09:34 PM
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Prostitutes usually don't kiss their clients. They offer pussy and mouths for penile insertation (sp). Better idea is to join a group / club / that attracts both sexes.
/r/seduction17/07/19 09:29 PM
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Creating Value requires creating desire.
/r/seduction30/06/19 01:53 AM
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Read r/idgaf Utilize that wisdom.
/r/seduction23/06/19 11:54 AM
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Slow down to walking talking speed. In person. One on one.
/r/seduction23/06/19 04:26 AM
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Chill Bro.
/r/seduction23/06/19 04:24 AM
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Have you thought about eyeballing her personally?
/r/seduction23/06/19 04:23 AM
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complain about my writing if you want. Lucid and Clear. Stick to the path.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/19 07:11 PM
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Never be afraid to walk off. Sun Tsu paraphrased freely ... Some times a great victory is leaving the field Un-engaged.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/19 05:59 PM
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2 great jokes along with Red Pill wisdom. Be Grateful and be someone great.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/19 01:55 PM
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feels almost animalistic and inhuman. This is it, women who like you love this. Note: they must like you first.
/r/seduction02/06/19 03:26 PM
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IOIs = indicators of interest Women pay attention to men who they like. Sometime they touch a forearm. Or fully face you, smile, eye, giggle etc. tl;d: IOIs
/r/seduction02/06/19 03:22 PM
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It's been a while ... this sound like a Rebound with DTF people.
/r/seduction28/05/19 02:43 AM
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This is going nowhere except for some grudge sex. Enjoy what you can.
/r/seduction28/05/19 02:20 AM
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Long Distance dating is just Fantasy dating. You are dreaming.
/r/seduction28/05/19 02:13 AM
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You haven't really broke up with her, you are both just horny.
/r/seduction28/05/19 02:11 AM
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Would you say this is okay? It's fine for 20. at 30, it is madness.
/r/seduction28/05/19 02:09 AM
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Wrong, you weren't talking to her in person. Talk to her one on one. It will go better. Quit that message crap.
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:15 AM
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You were set up for a prom date, and agreed. she was an ass, and didn't dance. tuff You had an experience and went to the prom. Next time ask a girl out that you like.
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:14 AM
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Someone is going to lose in this love triangle. Most likely a girl, so ...
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:11 AM
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An old girl friend and a new girlfriend (side chick) DTF. Soon enough, one will be favored over the other. Unless they both find out about each other and both dump u.
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:07 AM
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we work in different departments. One day we had a very short conversation and then we didn’t talk for a long time. You are currently the no 4 side Boy Toy for her at work. Don't hold your breathe, she was at work and wanted to talk to a male, You were convenient. If she dates you, then you can move to No 2 side Boy Toy. Then it's mano o mano until she choses or loses you. Go on, don't get Oneitis
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:05 AM
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I feel like a lot of these things need to be practiced just like w any other skill in life. Go find an old age home, visit some old people, talk to them. Listen to them, talk a little more. Do this for q few times and your social conversations will become easier. Then transfer that to your hunt for hot babes. This will work.
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:00 AM
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relevant is that the amount of 8-10's congregating in a small area was extremely high. Find a street cam for NYC. Amazing women just walking by. I get this show often.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/19 09:27 PM
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Choose Wisely, Treat Kindly. or Lose.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/19 12:36 AM
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it could turn guys off by making them think the girl is promiscuous? She probably is / wants to / was promiscuous.
/r/seduction23/05/19 08:56 PM
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I missed out on because I put her on a pedestal. I misjudged because I didn't think her through. FTFY
/r/seduction23/05/19 08:52 PM
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This is my saying that I tell my wife: In quietness and confidence shall be thy strength. Up your confidence - "I did it" down your vocale-ness. - {~silence~}
/r/seduction06/05/19 08:40 PM
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She is bit ghosting you ... you've oneitis disease. You have lost normal reasoning because you want her more than she wants you. tldr:oneitis disease.
/r/seduction06/05/19 08:25 PM
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She's just not into you. You wish to ignore red flags. Go look elsewhere.
/r/seduction21/03/19 01:57 AM
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broke up with her ex and everytime i suggest a date she keeps giving me excuses She is not over the ex. Careful, you are going to be a rebound suitor.
/r/seduction20/03/19 12:06 PM
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I’m gonna do it casually in person That is the prom ticket.
/r/seduction20/03/19 12:04 PM
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I never got to believe in Santa, but new pussy usually cures that too. There is no Santa Claus? Who knew? Is this true? There is no Santa Claus? tl;dr: Santa Claus no, Pussy yes. Ok I'll live with dat.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/19 04:32 PM
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Can we put paragraphs breaks in your new learning curve. Would make your post more readable.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/18 01:12 PM
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how do I become the fun, valuable guy; Self confidence comes slowly Doc, Be patient, wait, and learn. the Red Pill will work. If this goes on long, you will succeed just cause of your profession. tl;dr: Chill and be well, it shall happen.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/18 07:44 PM
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Lacking gratitude, common among millenials. Shall come back and bite one in the ass. Just wait. in Reddit we call this karma.
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 09:14 PM
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I am a loser when it comes to sex by anyone's determination. Only yours Bub. So not only was I forced to starkly confront what a rank amateur I am when it comes to the business, I was forced to examine my failure on a male/female level as well. Stop this self derision. Rejection is always better than regret Yup. I wish I knew you personally, I 'll bet there is one or two small things that need correction that is going to get your on a path / journey / quest you want.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/18 09:07 PM
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Be the best Dad you can be in this situation. No bad mouthing the 34 y/o mom who has needs. Women will fall all over you, and keep falling over you. That is not a bad thing.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 09:23 PM
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and then she gives me an address to this bar, and asks me to join her. now all of this is happening at 2AM. and my gut feeling is saying "fuck this it's late, some other time" but then she says "you can stay at my place for the night" and off I go. Your training phase is not over. Your size up ability of women needs much sharpening. Because you wrote this out on Reddit, you will probably get the max value from this horrendous pussy grab for your money.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 09:18 PM
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what to do next? Kiss him.
/r/seduction26/02/18 04:32 AM
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What should I do? Spend more time with her.
/r/seduction26/02/18 04:28 AM
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She still wants to be with me but wants me to bow down to her. Apologised etc. Should I soft next or ghost? Classic red or blue pill choice. Grab your dignity back and ghost or Lay her properly in breakup sex so that she'll never never forget you and you can walk all over her all you wish.
/r/askTRP11/02/18 02:30 PM
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Should I hire a PI. Only if you are going to CYA in a divorce proceeding. At least the sex got interesting. Lets us know which pill you choose ... red or blue.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/18 11:46 PM
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This is massively useful and helpful material.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/17 12:30 AM
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Jessica and I️’s first stop. Jessica and my first stop. OK CK (college kid) you are continuing to grow in knowledge too. she opens the door and walks into the shower. Totally Red Pill, she comes willingly to sex. Means, Motive, Opportunity all work together for sexual pleasure.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/17 04:38 PM
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Let's check Reddit rules: 1: Didn't matter, had sex. Check 2: Don't put your dick in crazy. Check, she lonely not crazy. Red Pill rules ... still learning and achieving. Stay the course, and keep nailing her.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/17 02:34 PM
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Reddit wisdom: Don't put you dick in crazy. trumps Didn't Matter, Had Sex. tl;dr : crazy female beats > dm,hs
/r/PussyPassDenied22/08/17 07:29 PM
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Reddit wisdom applied. Never put your dick in crazy. After the post nut high my horny goggles came off and realized I had no physical attraction to this girl OP put his dick in crazy. Crazy went crazy. Lesson learned horny googles can lead to Altered Mental Status tl;dr: Never put your dick in crazy.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/17 01:20 PM
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left with two options Pretty limited thinking buster. A lot of patience and further search is also an option. Stop being a beta / victim. tl;dr: more time needed.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/17 03:51 PM
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When you get out, tells us about your jail gf.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/05/17 01:30 AM
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tits are just better to look at then balls There are so many other subReddits that prove this by clicks counts.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 07:09 PM
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Untie the wire, when she's gone. The relief will be wonderful.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/17 10:23 PM
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Someone needs to be ghosted. Best order: Jack ghosts gf. Gf ghosts Jack. Last but possibly necessary ghost. You ghost Jack (cause you can't witness such bad blue pill stuff) tl;dr: Let him know truthfully what you think. If necessary buy him some tight pussy that does it early, on demand and then leaves.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/17 09:47 PM
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Getting over oneitis will be easy for you. You have turned a corner on your own behalf. Go find girls who like you in return.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/17 11:47 PM
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Jealousy is often the cause but not diagnosed. It's been around since Exodus 20 was written. Moses came down from the mountain and it was Rule #10. Thou shalt not covet (be envious). Implied need is understanding when jealousy is applied to you and your actions / life.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/17 01:44 AM
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Being grateful is a foundation of contentment / happiness. Without it, something is missing in one's emotional life.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/16 12:41 AM
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Find some service gig in Craigslist.org or yellow pages. Learn to perform that service, get customers for that service to pay you. congratulations, you are self employed in the gig economy. Now expand it and learn to be self employed. tl;dr: Find a service you can perform and get paid for. Make a sale /customer, go to work for your self.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/16 04:59 AM
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The Father of Our Country, George Washington, was taught some manly manners thru a Jesuit treatise on being a man. There were at least 100 different rules on civility GW utilized throughout his life. George Washington's Rules of Civility One minor lesson: 56. Associate yourself with Men of good Quality if you Esteem your own Reputation; for ‘is better to be alone than in bad Company. Responding because the more you become a man, the better your life will be. Carry On. edit 1: linked to the rules…
/r/TheRedPill27/07/16 01:17 AM
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and my dumbass argued and said some really fucked up things. Lesson: next time recognizing dumbass and really fucked up things. Learned: Stop that, as soon as you recognize.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/16 01:07 AM
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Catholic version used to be Knights of Columbus.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 12:34 AM
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The Bro Code - 1 tiny helpful point. The sooner one man can kid another man about something ... The sooner they can both trust each other a little more. summary: Bros kid each other - it's a sign of friendship.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 12:31 AM
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Reddit wisdom I didn't see in the comments: Don't put your dick in stupid. If you procreate, remember stupid is stupid, you owe 17% of your income for 21 years. Your name on a birth certificate as the father IS NOT what you want.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/15 03:45 AM
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Some social scientist did some statistical studies: Price of wedding over length of marriage. At a certain point in more expensive weddings the divorce rate skyrocketed. IIRC
/r/TheRedPill10/05/15 02:53 AM
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SJWs trying to knock out the free speech of this site. Because the r/TRP speaks mostly the truth. And SJWs are afraid of truth, they believe their emotions come before the Red Pill's power to communicate. Reddit History this happened to r/ents which became r/trees. Be Vigilant, I believe Good triumphs over evil. I think Social Justice Warriors are evil. And are relentless opponents. Ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free. John 8:32
/r/TheRedPill07/05/15 06:44 PM
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If you can let them lead you to a subject ... You have already made them like you because you are listening, and they (she, he ) are talking. This is a reversal, you are not entertaining with your mouth open.
/r/seduction12/12/13 06:44 AM
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When your audience loses interest you need to adjust to something more interesting to your listener. You might want to tape / record your stories alone. Then play them back and see where you can improve.
/r/seduction12/12/13 03:56 AM
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this is so true
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 02:02 PM
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If you love some one, you must let them go ... to see if they come back voluntarily. Go back to NYU, If she shows up within 6 months, you are golden. If she doesn't show up, you are free to start again. Just saying.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/13 05:21 PM
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