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Exactly what kind of intent are you trying to show? Women are usually pretty smart. If you invite a girl up to your place at the end of a date for drinks, she can usually get the drift. I guess it depends exactly what your trying to accomplish.
/r/seduction12/11/17 11:44 PM
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Yeah your going to need to fix that. The whole shy cute thing only works if you have the looks to back it up. Right now I would say you need a new goal. Stop thinking about dating, and focus more on just getting comfortable talking to people. If you remove the pressure involved in trying to impress a girl, it will be easier to just chat with them. As for getting better, there are plenty of books around for that kind of thing.
/r/seduction12/11/17 11:42 PM
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I would focus on improving your conversational skills. It's one thing to start an interaction, but you need to keep it moving. This website has a lot of useful information that can help you improve your skills. http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversation/conversation.htm
/r/seduction06/04/15 12:00 AM
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Different people have different theories on texting. My personal philosophy is to just use it as a tool for meeting up with people. Maybe occasionally crack a few jokes, but I'm not a big fan of long conversations over it. It can be time consuming, and the fact is I'm a believer in letting some anticipation build between dates.
/r/seduction05/04/15 11:59 PM
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Do not view girls as a prize, but rather their sex as a gift. I disagree with this. Viewing sex as a gift is one stop step away from putting women on pedestals. Sex is an amazing activity between two consenting adults, not a gift a guy should be honored to be blessed with. Now I don't want to point the finger or anything, but the RSD movement for example has tried to put a 'formula' on picking up girls. After 3-4 years in the game, I realize that this is a terrible way to see women, really just …
/r/seduction24/03/15 02:23 AM
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I'm going to say no. Some women might respond to you being playful, but in my experience most will think your acting like a child. Save that stuff for your buddies.
/r/seduction11/07/14 12:57 AM
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I would take a different route. I would suggest learning to cook, or taking dance lessons. If you really want to up your game, then increasing your practical skill set is a lot more effective than just learning more theory. Either one of these things would offer you a big advantage over most guys, and they have practical benefits outside of dating as well.
/r/seduction23/06/14 06:17 AM
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You told her you felt, she said no. It's time to move on, and stop looking for signs where there are none. There are plenty of other fish around you.
/r/seduction23/06/14 06:14 AM
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Just stop negging please. The technique itself is flawed, and it's become so mainstream now that girls are accusing random guys who've never even heard of the seduction community of doing it because they want to feel special.
/r/seduction12/05/14 12:45 AM
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It is rarely worth the effort, and not worth your time in my opinion. The girl by default has to be nice to you, and this gives off a false impression to many guys they're interested. I'm not saying never do it, but the girl in question better be sending you some pretty damn overt signals.
/r/seduction12/05/14 12:42 AM
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If your confident in the fundamentals, then why not start focusing on adding some new tools to your toolbox? When I got restless I took up cooking. I learned how to cook a dozen, or so recipes really well. Now I can invite a girl over to my place for a great meal, and can cook for myself as well. I'm a fairly horrible dancer, but I will be signing up for classes next month. Not only is dancing an excellent workout, but it will give me a leg up on a lot of guys who cringe at the mere thought. Sta…
/r/seduction09/04/14 12:55 AM
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When your schedule allows. Dating should only be one aspect of a busy life, and the fact is you shouldn't make yourself available whenever you think it would suit her. You can use a little texting to keep the rapport built, but let's be clear here. The harder something is to get the more valuable it is. If she knows she has access to you whenever she won't respect you for it.
/r/seduction23/01/14 01:43 PM
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Two things. 1) I wouldn't have kissed her hand on command, if something similar happens you might use it as a way to escalate. "A kiss on the hand, for a kiss on the cheek." Type of deal. 2) The more girls in a group the harder things become. You can't pay attention equally to all girls, and there is usually one really insecure girl in a group who will ruin it for the rest. In those situations it's helpful to have a wingman run interference for you. Just remember the more girls you add to the mi…
/r/seduction19/01/14 10:43 AM
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A lot of guys that could benefit from the self-improvement, and better aspects of the community get scared away because of redpill insanity. Such a damn shame.
/r/seduction18/01/14 06:33 PM
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This entire article a waste of time. I mean the first few paragraphs are just about how awesome the author is, followed by some grandiose claims. Then of course you have the mass generalizations about "all women" as if women were some single entity. It completely ignores the cultural factors that come into play. If I had the time, or interest I would go point by point, but I have neither. So I will just point out a few of the obvious ones. Dating Rules 3: Don't let her manipulate you or control …
/r/seduction18/01/14 06:25 PM
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I'm stealing this, this is a great little guideline.
/r/seduction18/01/14 06:08 PM
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Both of them are good options as long as you don't spend crazy amounts of money. A good first date is about interaction, and building rapport. You need to do something that is inexpensive, and allows you to build a connection. Between the two listed I would say mini-golfing, it's a bit less frustrating and more fun. Afterwards I'm a big fan of getting a small treat like ice cream, or something.
/r/seduction13/01/14 11:39 PM
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No, they haven't. People stuck in the friendzone almost universally have not told whoever they like about their feelings. You did, and were thus rejected. That doesn't mean you're in the friendzone, that means you're in the rejected pile. Also hooking up with another girl to try, and make her jealous so she will suddenly discover she wants you is just a bad straegy for so many reasons.
/r/seduction04/01/14 08:14 AM
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Sometimes I want it visit Mars as well. Nothing you've described in this situation indicates she is interested in you. It reads more like your being driven be wounded pride more than anything.
/r/seduction04/01/14 08:08 AM
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Live an attractive life. Are you living the kind of life that anyone would find interesting? Do you have goals, passions, and hobbies? Do you make an effort to learn new skills, and venture outside your comfort zone? Some things simply can't be faked.
/r/seduction04/01/14 08:07 AM
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The problem is in your head. You wrote a script about how this day would go, what you would talk about and then what you would do. The reality is no date can be scripted, you have to be able to adapt on the go. Yes there are logistics that can be handled beforehand, but preparing a list of topic conversations? A conversation needs to be organic, one topic leading into the next topic. Asking questions, and using that to build rapport with her. Relying on scripts damages your ability to learn to r…
/r/seduction04/01/14 08:05 AM
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You don't. It will take only one girl complaining about you, and then offering up your number as proof. There is a time, and a place for seduction but you should never allow it to interfere with your money flow.
/r/seduction04/01/14 07:59 AM
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I think the real problem is why are you letting this one girl's rejection dictate your actions? I've known this girl for about 7 months now, and although we are more or less in a relationship, she has said no to dating me, the reason being she just isn't sexually or romantically attracted to me (which i think is bullshit). So you haven't had sex, or even kind of intimate contact? How exactly does this indicate she secretly wants you? I think you need to move on, and stop looking for ways to make…
/r/seduction04/01/14 07:57 AM
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Consider this. Do you think you would get flustered if a pair of models was suddenly around you? Are you telling me you never look at other women whose physical features you like, and get a bit horny? I'm not saying you should give her free rein to flirt with whoever she wants, or that their aren't limits. I'm just saying it's important to have realistic boundaries, and not let insecurity dictate your responses. Personally an example for me of out-of-bounds flirting would be her sitting on anoth…
/r/seduction30/12/13 05:35 AM
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what the point is is that girls try to appear more innocent because it is beneficial. You are pointing out things that don't matter. As always there will be exceptions, but for the most part that's how it is. No it's not how it is. Trying to corral all women into one specific camp is limiting, and foolish. Generalizations might be easier, but they are not better or more accurate. Even worse they will degrade a man's own abilities at seduction, and life in general.
/r/seduction30/12/13 05:22 AM
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Focus on the fact she is with you, and not other guys. An attractive woman is going to get hit on, a lot. It's just the nature of things. I'm just not confident, based on her body language, that she's not having lusty thoughts about other guys.(I'm not cool with that and don't prefer to be in a relationship where that's the case.) You might as well become celibate then. Humans aren't hardwired for the kind absolute mental fidelity you want, and no one could meet that standard anyway. You need to…
/r/seduction30/12/13 05:15 AM
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What is innocent? What qualifies a woman for "innocence"? Someone who has never kissed another guy, never had sex, what exactly? There are some women who use it, but there are also some women who use big breasts to their advantage. The actions of a few don't apply to everyone. There are some guys who use their money, or social status, or a hundred other things to get an advantage. The point is that trying to use the actions of one woman to make generalizations about all women is complete crap. N…
/r/seduction30/12/13 05:09 AM
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What I'm trying to say is up there in black and white. It's not there for you to twist to support your post, or claims. If some of the words are hard to comprehend, Google is great for looking up definitions.
/r/seduction30/12/13 04:54 AM
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They complain enough, not to mention their prone to rampant generalization. That kind of thinking is not only weak, but inefficient.
/r/seduction30/12/13 04:41 AM
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False choice fallacy. There is an entire spectrum between slutty, and innocent your question ignores. I will judge each girl on her circumstances, and how it fits with my personal preferences. Vague concepts like "slutty girl" and "innocent girl" mean nothing because there so ill-defined.
/r/seduction30/12/13 04:39 AM
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This girl slept with three guys in a social circle. That means absolutely nothing aside from the actions of this singular individual. This type of generalization has no place here. It's a form of extreme neediness that caters to those idiots in the red pill crowd. The concept that all women everywhere are out to get them, and their fucked up sense of entitlement. If they spent half much energy complaining about the unfairness of life to improving themselves the world would be a better place.
/r/seduction30/12/13 04:07 AM
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You should just nod, and smile when something like this comes up. To many guys in the seduction community have this knee-jerk fear to being called a "nice guy" they freak out. Being called a nice guy, and acting like are one very big differences. Women don't just start suddenly treat guys like insecure nice guys because of a single word. They do it because of the behaviors, and attitudes of the guy in question. If your acting like your suppose to be, then just take the compliment as intended and…
/r/seduction27/12/13 03:00 AM
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December is my month off. The place where I live has a culture of young people getting married really young, and this month just seems to bring out that relationship need like a virus. I'm not sure if it's because of the nature of the holiday season with so much emphasis on family and relationships. Either way I will be spending the much catching up on some reading, and other things.
/r/seduction14/12/13 10:22 PM
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One of the writers read something about the seduction community, and decided to create this... thing. It's like every stupid cliché average people have about the seduction community condensed into an exaggerated "system". Despite the ethical concerns, this kind of crap just doesn't work either.
/r/seduction14/12/13 10:18 PM
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Situational. Do you know how many variations of this attractive women hear everyday? It's been done death, and most have a filter system that will classify a guy like this just as quick. Be adaptive.
/r/seduction14/12/13 09:25 PM
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Words mean nothing. You can claim to be the most dependable, reliable, stable guy in the world. All that represents is hot air, and is ignored just as quickly. Stability is shown through action. Are you professional at your job? Are you handling your money and debt? Do you have ambitions beyond this job, and are you pursuing them in a serious matter? Showing stability is about showing you have various aspects of your life locked down. That's why women love asking about the future. It's a way of …
/r/seduction09/12/13 01:07 AM
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Just.. no. Look if this girls ass is as great as you think, she has heard about.. at length. Do you think you will be the first guy to ever compliment her? You will be the 10,000th guy, and put in the same category. Focus on something about her that doesn't get a lot of usual compliments, and be different from the pack.
/r/seduction05/12/13 11:02 PM
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Not every tactic works with every woman. The cat string approach might work, but if a girl literally has her choice of dozens of guys, your indifference is liable not to mean a damn thing. Strong eye contact is a good way to get her attention I agree, but using it too much with CST could come off as creepy. You end up being the guy in the corner staring at her, and rarely are men as charmingly mysterious as they think they appear. Your best bet is to experiment. I would advise you don't spend to…
/r/seduction02/12/13 10:40 PM
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Red Pill is complete bullshit. Half the time they think women are our out to get them like a big conspiracy, and other half they spending whining about the unfairness of it all. Society is constantly changing, and this includes relationship dynamics. Feminism no doubt has changed the way some things are done, and some issues like family courts I think are legitimate areas men need to be concerned. What men don't need is to sit in a corner whining about the unfairness of it all, and circle jerkin…
/r/seduction29/11/13 06:40 AM
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I start to text her for a couple weeks. You waited way to long. Texting should be about building attraction, and securing a date. The longer the wait the more your viewed as a friend, and not date material. So i suggested sometime next week. To vague. When you ask a girl out you should have the when, and where locked down. "Hey Ashley, want to get coffee on Friday at 5:30?" The vaguer you are the harder it is for her to make a decision. Having a specific time, and place removes this mental block…
/r/seduction29/11/13 01:12 AM
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I hate negs, there such an overused tool it's a bit embarrassing. Guys studying seduction would benefit a lot more if they focused on the fundamentals like Body Language Improving Conversational Ability Learning to filter the girls they approach
/r/seduction29/11/13 01:06 AM
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Standards are good. Standards separate you from the average AFC who will fuck anything that shows him the slightest bit of attention. Now if you won't touch anything less than Kate Upton your standards might need to be tweaked, but on the whole it's good to have them. Standards imply you place value on your time, and that is something every guy needs to do.
/r/seduction18/11/13 08:05 AM
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You just need to modify your approach. I'm at a point in my life I have no interest in a regular relationship. I want casual fun, but I don't hide this fact either. I'm very upfront with my intentions, and this does filter off a lot of girls off my radar. Then again you will be surprised with how many girls are ok with this, or want the same thing. You don't need to choose between feeling bad, and not getting women. You just need to make your intentions clear from the get go.
/r/seduction18/11/13 08:00 AM
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Texting should always be a means to end. You should be using texting to build rapport, setup dates, and maintain casual relationships. Your only interaction with a girl should not be weeks of back, and forth texting. I also make it a point not to respond to texts when working, it sets a precedent. Girls need to know there is a time, and place for it.
/r/seduction13/11/13 09:37 AM
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I've read all of these books, and I have issues with every one of them. There are also bits, and pieces I've learned from them as well. I would recommend reading them because various parts of each book might resonate with your situation. Just don't think these 4 books are the definitive books needed. I take issue with idea there are definitive books out there for everyone. Every guy has a different situation, and she should seek advice tailored for that situation.
/r/seduction27/09/13 08:33 PM
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The mistake you made was being to direct about the sex. Even if a woman likes casual sex, most of the time they have some kind of hangup about it. They don't want to be seen as to easy, or be judged. In the future you might want to consider being a bit more coy with your intentions. When she starts accusing you of just wanting sex, tell her you just want to have a relaxing night with someone whose company you enjoy. Don't specify what that means, and if she continues to accuse you of just wantin…
/r/seduction27/09/13 04:26 AM
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It depends on the situation. For example if you're asking a girl out a lot of guys will use wording that implies it could either be a date, or just hanging out with friends. Example. "Hi Nicole, hey do you want to hangout at the movie theater this weekend?" Is he asking a date, or does he want to go as a friend? This kind of vagueness gives women the ability to decide what it is based on how they feel. This is a situation where your intent needs to be clear. For example. "Hey Nicole I'd like to …
/r/seduction27/09/13 04:20 AM
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I agree with the general sentiments expressed here. If you can't dance then don't embarrass yourself, but learning to dance is a valuable skill to have. It's a good workout, and it distinguishes you from most other guys.
/r/seduction25/09/13 09:14 PM
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I just looked over my post, nowhere did I say limiting fundamentals was something to do. What I take issue with is your definition of fundamentals. NLP, Routines, and Future Projection (?) aren't fundamentals. Knowledge about body language, good conversational skills, and an eye for picking out the right kind of girl to approach are far more useful. Also all those internet marketers are the ones peddling systems. They like to talk about how their system is all you need.
/r/seduction22/09/13 05:34 AM
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Yes I did, and responded. Look I even put in the areas I took issue with in quotes, and then responded. I suppose a rant is more satisfying if all you did is rant.
/r/seduction22/09/13 05:22 AM
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One of the main points I want to get across is that with natural game you supposedly playing it by ear. So everytime that you go up to a different woman then you are basically being yourself, which changes often depending on how you feel. This may work well if you are naturally whitty or have a bunch of coke to offer the girl because let's face it a lot of girls like coke. However, that doesn't apply to the majority of us. Most of us are not extremely whitty or low life drugdealers. That is a ve…
/r/seduction22/09/13 05:10 AM
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You should take these videos with a grain of salt, remember they're edited to make him appear in the best possible light. Learning to handle rejection is partly about experiencing it, and a shift in perspective. If you every rejection as a personal failure, then yes doing it repeatedly will be extremely tough. If you view rejection as a chance to learn, and refine your game then you rob it of its power to weaken you. That mindset takes time, but anyone can do it with enough practice.
/r/seduction21/09/13 04:13 AM
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Shut it down. If changing topics doesn't work, then let your boredom show through and move on. It's one thing to go along with a girl talking about a boring hobby she has, that's part of building rapport. Being used as a trash bin for her entitlement issues is a waste of your time, and puts you in the category of girlfriend.
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:08 PM
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