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That's up to her and her tolerance for it. Personally, I find lack of willingness to compromise a red flag. Not the smoking, but the absolute unwillingness to compromise on the issue. Especially on a dirty, expensive habit. How would things go with something even more important?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 10:27 PM
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Then who gets to decide what is and isn't in them? Does he get equal hate for going behind her back with other women like a coward rather than bringing his issues to her to try and work them out? Why is the responsibility hers alone? Once you leave strict definitions, people start to bias their view rather than taking a whole view.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 10:25 PM
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Not really. But people divorce for any number of reasons after rushing into marriage without really knowing the person they're with. You know, rather than working out their issues like rational human beings or being honest about how they feel instead of going behind the other's back.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 01:45 AM
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That's not a vow. And he seems not at all concerned about her health. Neither the OP nor the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 01:42 AM
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Marriage vows are for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health. The vows have always been to stay together through good and bad. But most people don't actually pay attention to what marriage means. So no, I don't think she's turning her back on her vows. What vow do you think she's turned her back on?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:37 PM
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Personally, I find cheating to be contemptible, regardless of who is doing it. Whether or not I say anything might depend on the situation, but that someone I am close to would do that would lower them in my eyes. I would likely end up trying to convince them to fess up and deal with the situation, rather than continuing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 12:41 AM
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As a general rule, I'd say you should give it thought if the partner starts to show they're taking the relationship more seriously than you and you're not willing to do the same. As long as both people are on the same page, there shouldn't be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:53 PM
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Is there any evidence these are older women? Even the OP only thinks they might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:11 PM
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I think arguing about protagonists in action/sci-fi movies is a bit pointless. Most are distinctly special. Because the point is that they can face down the multitudes because they are especially powerful, quick, cunning or intelligent. Few movies of this sort, as far as I can see, are led by distinctly normal or below average protagonists. Makes that argument a bit pointless in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 02:29 PM
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This seems to be an issue for a lot of people who claim 'alternative' views. They cry out for free speech, but seem perturbed when others exercise speech against them. And when other people they don't agree with are attacked, threatens or de-platformed, they cheer it on. It's all rather hypocritical. But it's human nature. We want to be well treated while their enemies are poorly treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 12:23 AM
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By and large religion is the primary source of the rejection of homosexuality on a macro scale, as far as I've seen. That initial association, a multitude of generations ago, has lingered. Only in modern times are we straying to really push it back, but it's so ingrained culturally, it takes time to change minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 12:17 AM
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Assuming the story is true, to bypass that aspect, to me he sounds like a bit of a dick. Which is hardly illegal and some people might even be into that. But at a glance he sounds insufferable. Not because he's 'holding frame', but as she portrays it, he sounds rude and standoffish. I don't know about anyone else, but if I were in a relationship with a girl and she acted like that it would rub me the wrong way. And we're I friends with someone with a personality like that, the friendship wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 01:14 AM
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Might be because you're trying to balance an equation that can't be balanced. Taking both together, the gulf is there, but doing so there is no perfectly equitable answer. So I take them separately and consider what is best in each situation. To me, bodily autonomy means more than fiscal autonomy. And the future wellbeing of a child means more to me than an adult's comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 11:47 PM
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Speaking strictly for myself, it lies entirely in the specific biology of reproduction. The woman carries the child, which is part of her body until it is born. Thus for it an abortion on her is forcing her to take on an invasive medical procedure not justified by a danger to her life. Which is not something that should be done to anyone. And when it comes to the responsibility for a child, it lies with those who made it. A living child must be cared for by its parents. Even if, for one, that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 11:20 PM
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People who focus on questions like this miss the point of friends. Friends aren't about what they can do for you. It's abut people that you like to hang around. Male or female. Because we all have friends who we like, but who arguably cause more problems than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 05:19 PM
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I don't know who hurt you, but you should try talking to someone about the way you feel. This isn't the place to be airing this sort of extreme hyperbole. Especially if you actually believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:53 AM
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How you view life says a lot about you. Seeing life as nothing but war and competition is not a positive thing in my opinion. There are aspects of that, of course. But that ignores the presence of altruism, compassion and cooperation that aren't seated in the struggle to overcome one another. It's a simplistic view of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 10:17 AM
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Male. No interest in sports. No interest in cars. Minimal interest in sex. Not much matching the stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 05:35 PM
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It would be life imitating art. And I worry how we'd actually handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:41 PM
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Real, self aware AI, not video game 'AI'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:27 PM
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To speak to that first thought, my lack of strong desire for sex has been a thing since I was young. It's always been that way and wasn't a response to anything in particular. Not everyone is like everyone else and that is the same with sexual drive. Some people just don't care about sex and I'm one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 10:43 AM
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I would disagree in that no one cares. Some people do care. Quite a bit and for various reasons. But I do agree that it's not very likely to change the world in any earth shaking way. What is more likely to is AI. Because that will start to create moral issues, especially when it comes to the way that almost every technology is used to enhance how people have sex. Because creating AI is creating intelligence and perhaps a form of life. And using a new life/intelligence for sexual gratification i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 10:33 AM
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History has shown anything can be fixed if people get their heads out of their asses and want it bad enough. The problem is, most people who want to solve issues these days are too busy making themselves look terrible and not organizing in a proper way to do anything productive. Flailing around will keep you above water, but it won't let you make much progress anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:20 AM
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I feel sad for anyone who gets roped into this sort of BS, believing that being any kind of 'bad boy' will get all the girls. There's a difference between being James Dean and ascribing to a set of beliefs that, arguably, most people in the US would find repugnant or wrong on one or more levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:05 AM
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You're assuming a total lack of sexism from the gatekeepers of said professions. Namely the few who do the hiring. Not to mention from potential coworkers some of whom don't take women seriously in those fields. Hard barriers to entry aren't the only barriers and society hasn't quashed sexism totally yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 10:29 PM
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No, because the legal definition of harassment is a thing. And people using words wrong doesn't change their meaning. Especially when it comes to law. Social interaction is risky, especially when you lead with tasteless bullshit. No matter that some 'wilder' folk might like it. Most people find it inappropriate and will react accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 10:43 AM
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It's tasteless and raises a valid question about the asker's social ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 10:36 AM
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Most people realize that being a jackass is a human trait, not a gendered one. Why should someone behaving badly change how I conduct myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 11:58 PM
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Your problem is you're taking every positive thing you've ever seen happen with a woman and applying it in your head as being what women just do as a gender. I think you need to get the idealized vision of being a woman out of your head. Especially if Emilia Clarke is an example of what you think being a woman is like. Her experience is not the norm. And you likely have no bearing on what her real life is, outside of what is broadcast publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 10:34 AM
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We have all kinds of natural urges. It doesn't make them appropriate for an ordered society. Power dynamics and the ability of older people to groom and control young people who lack solid life experience and perspective trumps vestigial instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:31 AM
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How someone acts when uninhibited reflects on aspects of their personality. Thus it's an issue for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:25 AM
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If it gets tied directly to environmental effects, maybe we can finally get the immovable objects in government to start caring about fixing the environment. Nothing like threatening one's sense of manhood to prompt action.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:17 AM
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So really, what is it with all the dystopic bullshit topics recently? I don't always read over the weekend, so it seems like this has suddenly laced itself throughout the sub. Each topic I read, I wonder why the OPs aren't just writing some post-apoc fiction to get this sort of speculation out of their system. I've never been big on speculation when it comes to topics here. Extending perceived threads of behavior into decades or centuries, as if one can make a straight line comparison in an cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:19 AM
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Of course there is an impact. The argument is how much it matters. And in what ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:06 AM
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Hysteria tends to be the result of gathering places that wallow in dark thoughts. Constantly looking into the abyss you believe in will do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:03 AM
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There's a kernel of truth to most things. The real question is how pervasive it is. I don't believe it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:35 PM
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I'm curious how often it is that men unknowingly date transwomen. Because this doesn't really seem like a problem to me. I've never heard of some epidemic of men mistakenly doing so and/or transwomen en mass being deeply secretive about what they are when dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 10:39 AM
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Demonizing the ex is something that both genders are quite capable of and a trope that's old as time. There's nothing new to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 10:29 AM
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I think such authoritarian measures would cause a host more problems than they might theoretically solve. Because most people react badly to the government trying to mandate something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 11:36 PM
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Whatever someone thinks supports their particular beliefs. I find the whole pill divide to be silly on the face of it. Especially when someone unironically says 'red pill confirmed'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:21 AM
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The sphere I refer to is basically your life. The people you know, the places you go. Your tiny slice of the world. And when you don't hold back, you devote yourself fully to those things you care about. Your work, your relationships, your friends, your community. You don't worry if it's enough, you just give what you have, regardless. What I mean is no one is unique. Save, perhaps, for some rare individuals. For every person, there is someone out there like them. Or better than them. Part of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:16 AM
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Ran across a pretty wild thread today where people are actually arguing against net neutrality because Reddit is for it. Completely missing or misunderstanding what net neutrality is. How bad must your view of life be if you're willing to cut off your nose to spite your face? Or too ignorant or somehow unwilling to educate yourself about something even slightly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 11:20 AM
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Insecurity is normal, but extreme insecurity is not. Like any thing, taking something to the extreme is usually damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:24 AM
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It's a means of acceptance that something may go wrong. Which means that every day something doesn't go wrong is precious. It's something that happens when people have serious accidents or near death incidents. Their realization of their own mortality in a personal way feeds a lust for life because they know that it could happen again. Most people don't really get that for most of their lives. It's the same principal in a general sense to your question. You might run into someone better than you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:22 AM
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Worrying about it on a global scale isn't normal. Recognition of the fact that you aren't the best at everything is normal. Letting that weigh on your mind constantly isn't. If you are stuck like that, you should probably see someone to discuss that with. If not, great. Because this sort of worrying can ruin your life if allowed to run rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:18 AM
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You stop worrying about it. Which is the simplest, easiest and for some hardest thing to do. I know I'm not the smartest, fastest and best in the world. But within my sphere of influence I do my best at my job and enjoy the time I have with the resources I am allotted by my efforts. Within my sphere, I'm damn good at what I do. Better, in my opinion, than most. People outside that sphere don't matter and within it I don't hold back. The same with relationships. And when it comes to people, if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:16 AM
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Marriage is fine in the abstract. The issue is people jump into it quickly because of social pressures. We don't need to outlaw what people want to do, we just need to take off the social pressures involved in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:11 AM
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Exactly what I expected you to say. It's so hard for people to accept someone who doesn't conform is not somehow damaged and isn't happy. Based on essentially no information.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:08 AM
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As other people have said, laying the blame for that entirely on sex is premature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:32 PM
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I know at least one, but most would probably assume he's just lying. I might know more if I was the kind of person to dig into the sex lives of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:22 PM
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It's harder to quantify satisfaction. And simpler to just count frequency. Which doesn't necessarily equate to higher satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:19 PM
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Personally I think studies like this focus too much on volume and not enough on satisfaction. Are these couples satisfied is more interesting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:10 PM
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As long as you're up front about your expectations, how you comport yourself in a relationship is up to you. If a woman wants to get into a relationship like this and is informed what it will be like, that's on her. Personally, I think boundaries are good, but the tone of this post is off-putting. This is less patriarchal and more biblical. Or uses arguments that some evangelical men use when it comes to 'wifely duties'. Not exactly sexy in my opinion. But like I said, be clear and up front and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:23 AM
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The issue I have with that is too much focus on the negative is detrimental. Life can certainly be negative. But it can also be wonderful. A view without balance in both positive and negative aspects is a faulty one. For an extreme example, just look at most incel subs. They usually wallow in negativity and some of the talk that goes on there can be disturbing. TRP has aspects of that. A focus on negativity that reinforces a negative viewpoint that takes root in some who follow it. Which I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:17 AM
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Yes, I get annoyed when people sling around terms that don't fit. I try not to, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:10 AM
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The point is casually suggesting people self medicate to solve their problems is irresponsible. Because you don't know if some random person on the net will benefit from it or not. Or if it might make things worse for them. Doing it in real life with someone you know is less so because at least then you can support them in person and have more information to decide if they might benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:09 AM
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Of course there are. I doubt many would say there is nothing good about them. And if they do, they're wrong imo. The issue is forcing people to take on those traits or the extension of those traits to the extreme that are worth arguing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:37 PM
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Your questions about why his and why that if they're just likely to break up shows the danger of viewing life as a zero sum game. If you take that path to the logical extreme, everyone is one hundred percent likely to die. So why do a thing? It won't matter to you in X years. Why people do that is because even after the relationship is over, the memories remain. Good and bad. You said it yourself. Your ex was great, despite the end of the relationship. And you still hold on to memories. That's w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:50 PM
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In the abstract, violence is easy. It's simple. Talking, cooperating and compromising are harder and take more maturity. Because anyone can throw a punch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:39 PM
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Not necessarily. A bad sexual experience can screw up your perceptions. You should be very discerning when it comes to what you're looking for. You're looking for a proper escort, not just whichever prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:34 PM
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It really depends on you and your view of what prostitution means. It might, it might not. It also depends, I would think, on the woman. The experience itself will effect how you feel about it. If you're looking for just sex, probably. But if you want an experience and an emotion, you'll have to be more discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:30 PM
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I'm looking to be sure of what you're saying. And civilization itself works against human nature. Everything about modern age is working against human nature. So unless you think all of that is a pipe dream, your argument doesn't hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:26 PM
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So because they share one principal, they're completely linked? Because that's what it sounds like you're telling me. Which sounds ludicrous. If you had blind faith in anything, that's a problem. I hold a general belief in what society stands for, but I don't do so blindly. I scrutinize what comes to my attention and adjust my views as new information demands. Blind faith in anything is the wrong path. And right and wrong are rarely simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:08 PM
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Charm is what is said. Charisma is how you say it. What makes someone charming is how they speak to others. It takes some insight into people, learned or instinctive. Though I believe it's a mix of both learning and instinct. Some people are poor at being charming and no amount of coaching will help. Some people don't need to learn much and just hit it automatically. What makes someone charismatic is how they treat people and how they say what they do. Tone, body language, expression and how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:33 AM
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You didn't see the thread. She utilized a clever trick to put pressure on him to accept. She "just remembered that it was this weekend" and, if she didn't give them a ride, her friends' trip would be ruined because they were relying on her to come with. She set her boyfriend up to be the bad guy to four people. I don't think he noticed this until the comments pointed it out to him. It's gaslighting. Not unless the intent was to make him question his sanity, which is the core component of gasligh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:28 AM
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You mistake a dislike of rhetoric with a dislike of men having standards. That's the main problem of TRP folk who bristle at their ideology being talked down. I have no issue with a man who likes to sleep around. That trait itself doesn't raise him in my eyes, but his life is his. But some of the tactics put forward by TRP are what make me think it's an overall negative. Not just for women, but for men. It cultivates a very negative view of life which I consider a detriment, distinctive from jud…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:23 AM
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It still isn't by society at large. A small percentage thinking it's ok online is hardly a change to that. It's just a concentration of what's already there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:20 AM
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I think you and MGTOW are overreaching. Personally, I live a life somewhat similar to that of a MGTOW. I'm not married. I have no plans to get married or have kids. But I'm no fan of TRP or most MGTOW precisely because of the messages they believe in. The 'selfishness' of living how you want to is something apart from the mental mindset that one has to have to embrace TRP or MGTOW. For example, attributing Marxism casually to the lingering effect of traditionalism. The reason people not being 'n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:17 AM
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The draft is a relic that should either be modernized with it including the whole population or done away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:09 AM
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I would not go to drugs to even out my mind if I were in such a trap. Because if someone has an actual mental problem that is the root of their issues, drugs won't necessarily make that better. It could make it worse. This is, in my opinion, irresponsible advice for people who you don't know. A common fallacy is 'it worked for me so it will work for you'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 05:41 PM
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Because there is no money in generic sims, so only indies try to make them. And most indies are bad at making complex games.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 10:19 PM
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It's annoying when other progressives go off the deep end. It's one reason I don't directly associate myself with them in general. I share beliefs with a few factions overall, bus only one who can truly be my standard bearer is me. That way if the message gets fucked, I know who to blame. Me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 10:16 PM
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So you're piggybacking this assumption off seeing some women in short skirts during a cold period? With no idea how much the clothing costs and no actual notion of whether or not those women spent a great deal on their appearance, above what any poor idiot spends money on rather than whatever? Your post would have been better without even mentioning those women because it's well know that some poor people, and those more well off, attempt to live above their means. It's a human problem rather th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:09 PM
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Personally, I find most attempts to be false, fake or lie to be negative acts. Ideas that promote dehumanization, derision or otherwise lower half of the population simply for their gender are negative as well. Basically, promoting negativity is bad. It's good to find positive ways to meet your goals without attempting to reduce other people to resources to gather. Being interested in lots of sex is fine. But how you pursue it can be problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 10:02 AM
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Of course I think women are adults. Just because I don't think a man should be able to put a baby in a woman and shirk all responsibility for it if he wants, I think women are children? That's a stretch. They have their own responsibility. Birthing, raising and providing for a child is hardly a kids game. Nor is an invasive medical procedure and the potential for second thoughts and depression after an abortion. To put it simply, I believe in bodily autonomy. The fetus is in the woman. Therefor …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:24 PM
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If you say so. Since you have no interest in explaining your POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:48 PM
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The equation isn't equal because the biology isn't. When men have wombs, they will be able to be exactly equal as you seem to want. It's not great for women to tend to unwanted children. You have either nine months of your life being impacted by gestation or physical risk to your fertility and life with an abortion. Not including the potential for emotional damage depending on the woman. Both sides bear the brunt of their decision regardless of who chooses what. And feel free to explain the sexi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:38 PM
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I disagree. Implied agreements are not binding. Part of the known risk for a man is that the woman may decide to keep an unexpected baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:27 PM
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I disagree. By having sex, two people take on the risks involved. It's no secret, no trap. If both parties don't take precautions, both are on the hook for any results. Including the man having to deal with the woman wanting to keep the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:05 PM
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Can't it? Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 11:17 AM
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Which I disagree with. So past that disagreement, what does your opinion mean when applied to reality? What do you think should be the way things are to suit your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 11:08 AM
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Monogamy involves a willful agreement between two people. It's not about ownership. You agree to be exclusive. It's more of a contract than anything else. And either party is free to break from that contract according to the law(in the US at least), so it has little to do with ownership.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:49 AM
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That would be a dealbreaker for being friends with another man. I couldn't respect someone like that to be more than casually polite to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:20 AM
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It should be. We still have a significant problem in the US with accidental birth and you g pregnancy. Birth control should be freely available. But there should still be a lot of attention for condoms because while pregnancy is an issue, diseases are as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:14 AM
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Then what's your point? Both have options, both have responsibility. You seem focused on pointing at the woman, which implies placing responsibility on her. But you say you aren't. Going to have to clarify what precisely your point is with all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:10 AM
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I disagree. Nothing excuses a man's lack of using his own options. It's an abdication of personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:05 AM
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Never. In any context, unless you count the occasional being hit up for change or directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:33 PM
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I never said as many. They have adequate means to control their own fertility. There could be more, but many men already use the means available to manage their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:26 PM
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I find this whole 'women are choosing shitty partners' thing, as if it's some made choice to be strange. Because you can't know someone inside and out early on. Feelings cloud one's critical judgement and even if not, years down the line, issues can rise that strain relationships. Trying to blame this on some feminine X-factor is a distraction for the simple fact of human nature. We're all bad at finding just the right person. TRP shows that men are also crap at it. The solution is not in blamin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:18 PM
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You jump to a lot of random conclusions. Men have, for the moment, adequate means of controlling their own fertility. Women have more, but the tradition has been to put the onus on the woman to regulate her own fertility. So as you're aware, I support the male pill and any other added means of effective birth control for everyone. But one thing to keep in mind is condoms are also for protection against disease. So even with a male pill, condoms are still an essential part of male sexual health.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:12 PM
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I think it has to do with how overt he is, yet every time he acts out he's given a pass and it barely seems to effect things. The only thing restraining his administration right now is how ludicrous what they want to do is. I think that is the outline, but the precise reason likely varies from person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:34 AM
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It's a good idea to carefully consider before 'illegitimately' devoting oneself to the church for benefits. Not just for the moral notion, but because one might find religious women actually want a truly religious man. If you aren't, but pretend you are, you'd be starting a relationship based on a lie. Which is never the best way to start things out. I don't believe and I don't go to church because I find it improper to pretend I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:25 AM
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I would think that it's a good idea to do so. Because things like this tend to come out eventually. You're delaying the inevitable if you aren't honest about your past, at least in the overall. And it looks far better to be upfront than to have secrets that might hit negatively come out suddenly after an extended period of time. That doesn't mean one should blurt it out on the first date, but if things get serious, it's a good time to be upfront and make sure everything is copacetic. EDIT: The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:20 AM
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Yes, full control. Is it good to be controlled by your desires or to guide them and explore them without being overtly influenced by them involuntarily? Of course it's easier when they're less intense. But that doesn't change the reality of whether or not you're stronger when you can control yourself. Not a direct comparison, but people with phobias have strong reactions to certain things. It's far out of their control and makes them weaker because of that extreme reaction. It isn't there fault,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:15 AM
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Her's and the man as he had every form of contraception as well. Both of them are responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:05 AM
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Of course I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:19 PM
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No, it's basic thinking. Are you or are you not stronger when you are in full control of yourself and require no outside influence from other people to keep your faculties? Because that is what I base it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:14 PM
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Some offenses in law have that distinction, not all. And intent doesn't change hat happened. Or that there is a life now in the world that requires support. Accidental pregnancy is still pregnancy. An accidental baby still requires support. What are you implying should be done in the case of an unwanted child that doesn't already exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:36 PM
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Because most arguments like this try to frame sex as something men literally die without, leaning on matters of suicide. As to productivity, a lack of ability to focus on your life when sexless is a problem. But that is not necessarily a woman's problem. As I said before, the strongest people show a measure of self sufficiency emotionally. Those who require sex to function are, by that definition, not as strong for one reason or another. Depends on why their libido is out of their own control in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 03:16 PM
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Sounds like bullshit, going to need a source from you on that. The girls say otherwise: https://www.vice.com/en_dk/article/mvb49p/a-visit-to-one-of-germanys-all-you-can-fuck-brothels-432 'All inclusive' brothels are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 10:49 AM
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You're still making poor arguments. Do you honestly think, if it was legalized across the country, they'd still be making that much? The arguments against prostitution when it comes to exploitation don't focus on the occasional success story. The tale of two girls who managed to fall right into the right place are trumped by the tales of thousands who, right now, are in dire straights. Get your eye out of the keyhole and open the door. You're focusing so microscopically, it's ruining any argumen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 10:39 AM
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I think you're potentially mixing things up, unless those women stated that they became prostitutes for that purpose in particular. The trade brings them into contact with those kind of people, but that doesn't mean their entry into it was specifically for that. So try and not assign intent to people unless you're damn sure that intent is legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 10:36 AM
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But consider why it shows that. It says specifically inflow. Of course, if something is legal somewhere and illegal everywhere else, those who want to conduct the business will set up somewhere legal and pull people into that place. That gives the government a means to work against that by understanding how the legalization effects criminal supply and demand. Not to mention report also states it does not look at the effects for the welfare of sex workers in the country to fill out the picture fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 10:32 AM
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The problem is, you're talking about something that is rare right now. Were it fully legalized, this would change. So that fact effects your argument somewhat. What national, legalized prostitution would look like is hard to guess because you know how market forces work. A rarity is worth a lot. Something that is common and easy to access is worth less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 10:22 AM
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Hmm. Actually, I did misread your comment. I thought it said honesty is important, when you said honestly it's important. I apologize for that. As to your question, it doesn't matter what there intent was. Under the law, intent generally doesn't apply and this is better treated with that level of impartiality. The law is concerned with the result. If two people make a child, they need to be responsible about it. If that child lives, those two people have a responsibility to care and provide for …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 10:15 AM
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It's not a fallacy. It's a fact. You have to eat because if you don't take in nutrients, you will die. You have to take in water because if you don't, you will die. You have to have shelter because if you expose yourself to the elements, you will die at some point when the weather turns bad. Those are absolute needs because of the fact that you will unequivocally die without them. Period. The same is not true of sex. And men have lived productive, positive lives without it. That removes it from …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 10:08 AM
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Your question is without context. What do you mean, was there an understanding? Your phrasing references an event that has not been described. And I am being honest, unless you wish to point out a falsehood or elaborate on what convenience I'm allowing for. If you're going to accuse me of something, be up front so I can address it. Or restate your question clearly and concisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:57 PM
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There is no trap in how reproduction works. You're getting into the weeds of people being terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:30 PM
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No, I believe when two people do a singular act, the results of it are both of theirs to deal with. Because the man has direct responsibility for the creation of that child. You comparison is flawed as the woman has no direct hand in the actions of her husband. Unless she does. Then she's accessory to that crime and faces judgement under the law for her direct participation. The man, in the making of a child, is not a passive participant. He is actively involved and knew the risks. There is no t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:18 PM
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The fact that a certain percentage of the male population can live without sex easily means that sex is not an intrinsic male need. If it were, no man would be able to live without it. That shifts the question to where it belongs. Why some men want it more than others. Personally I think a man in control of himself and his urges is stronger than one who is not. One who requires sexual gratification to be strong would not strike me as the strongest, given that this strength relies on something ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:51 PM
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We're talking about man's lack of desire to have a child. Not a woman's. So female agency doesn't factor. Men know how sex and procreation work. Men have tools to regulate how their sperm is distributed. Along with minds and wills to control their actions. Those who have no desire to have children have multiple resources and means through which they can prevent it from happening. Thus complaining after unsafe sex results in the inevitable and a woman decides to keep it leaves a significant amoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:41 PM
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Everything by Meatloaf and most things by Barenaked Ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:27 PM
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I find it interesting that you consider the neutral act of setting boundaries as treating women badly. By your own definition, is being a doormat required to treat women well? Or is this some miscommunication on your part?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:26 PM
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Because the man did not exercise his responsibility to use adequate protection to reduce the risk of conceiving. Sex is inherently risky. Pregnancy and disease transmission are both potential negative side effects. If one does not take adequate steps to protect themselves, they will have to deal with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:23 PM
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There was an over abundance of incel threads that would rise up, rehashing the same topics. That's why the off topic stickies were made. Where you can talk about anything, including incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:20 PM
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A requirement? No. Many men have lived verified lives without sexual congress that did not lead to insanity and emotional ruin. A better question is why do some men want it enough that the lack of it damages them? I see that as a far more productive line of investigation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:15 PM
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I don't buy the narrative of male disposability overall. People like to float numbers showing bad things happen more to men. But in most cases they're less concerned with exactly why. Homeless numbers? How many men are feed a narrative of personal responsibility that prevents them from seeking help when they need it? Which is pushed just as much by men as women? People in general are disposable. And a lot of us are taught negative things in life that lead is to harm ourselves. The issues are bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 02:08 PM
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Abortion and prostitution are completely different subjects in every way. And I don't agree with, for the most part, anything you said. But I'm pro legalizing prostitution for reasons of personal freedom and bringing sex workers out of the shadows and reducing the chance of their exploitation. Prohibiting prostitution is only like abortion in that banning it won't stop it, much like alcohol prohibition didn't stop sale of alcohol. We can only make it safer for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:59 PM
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It's a bit ignorant to say no family legacy has lasted more than century. Historically, there are plenty of family legacies that have lasted for generation upon generation, with reverence for past branches of that extended tree. And there has been a resurgence in interest in genealogy and family trees. Someone who wants a legacy can build one. It's not always easy, but to say it's not doable is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:23 AM
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There are support groups for things like that. Feminism isn't suppose to be a support group. It's suppose to be a rights group, pushing for equality. Feminism has grown too big and too diluted from it's original purpose. Which is fine. That just means a new organization that's younger, quicker and better focused on the problems of today when it comes to equality for men and women needs to be started.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 10:16 AM
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A broken clock is right twice a day. TRP may help some incels. But it won't help them all. It might be an answer for some, but it won't be the answer. The answer is to take personal time with someone in real life because TRP doesn't get the full, unbiased story out of the people on the sub. And it can't gauge someone's true problem without them being completely fair and open about exactly what's wrong. And if they were that, they could fix their own problems themselves. That's one of the hardest…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 10:12 AM
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Because people with an agenda naturally flock together. And life will never be without disaffected people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:28 PM
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Their issues are real to varying degrees. But they're also part their own making. Wallowing in a pit of despair works against all of your goals in life. Of course getting yourself out is easier said than done. But you can't rely on other people to fix your problems. There is no good answer overall. But on a personal level, we should all keep an eye out for people stuck in a spiral who are in our lives and lend them what aid we can. That's a good first step. Because the internet won't fix them. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:23 PM
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Life isn't fair. What's fair about having a relationship open on one side? If you don't want your heart broken, don't put it in the game. There are no sure things with humans and emotions. People are risky, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:16 PM
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He can not get into a relationship. Seriously, if you want to focus on someone, focus on them. If you don't, don't. No one forces a man to get into a relationship. But if you want a way to not get called an ass for hedging your bets, be upfront about keeping your options open from the start. If they stick around, you're fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:58 PM
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Of course. Some people play life like a game and would rathe screw around than be up front. Just trying to codify it like TRP does with most things is unhealthy. Primarily because the Internet is a poor medium for personal stories. All need to be taken with a grain of salt. But TRP doesn't tend to take that into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:28 PM
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Problem is, that's a bad way to try and figure that out. Being polite doesn't mean you're easy to control. And the act is so simple, there aren't many men who generally wouldn't just say sure, then set it down nearby where they can keep a casual eye on it while doing what they were doing. Which makes the whole concept suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:35 AM
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Society not telling you who to be is called freedom. Society is there to help make an ordered world for people to live in. But it shouldn’t tell you what to be.It’s a human flaw we need to fix. That it’s difficult to get there or hard to picture is no excuse to not try. As to homosexuals, society had a problem with them because, in part, religion had pushed into most societies an innate bias against to outright hatred of them. A few lines of text in a book read by billions over centuries has a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:23 AM
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No, I expect someone I'm close to to be loyal to me. I don't apportion loyalty as a male trait. It's a human trait. If one can't control themselves to this basic degree, it isn't my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:11 AM
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No, I just expect loyalty. Those who are disloyal aren't worth my time in the first place. I expect people will be bad in some way and treat them accordingly as they reveal themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 10:08 PM
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This sounds like a troll post to me. And I'm no fan of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 06:00 PM
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Personally, I find the notion of mate guarding in the context provided to be a sign of problems. If you feel the need to censor your SO's actions or diminish them in the des of others to ensure loyalty, I would wonder if there isn't some other issue to resolve. The notion that this is somehow showing your love for them seems.. incorrect. To me, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 05:55 PM
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I'm going to attribute my misreading to trying to be coherent in the morning and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 05:24 PM
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You might actually want to provide something to give credibility to your assertion this is common. Because I don't know that it is for high school girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 11:19 AM
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Sex is a want. You can live without it. It feels like a need to some, but I believe that is psychological. We feel like we need a lot of things. Plenty of people live normal lives without sex. Reproduction is less a factor today, which is good given we don't have to fight back against a brutal, short life of subsistence survival. We have enough looming issues when it comes to overpopulation as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 11:13 AM
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Are you sure yours is the right size. Watching crap on TV, I hear that some women don't get just the right size for themselves. That might cause some pain if the measurements aren't perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 10:30 AM
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The only thing I'll say is, don't marry quickly. Because, to be honest, how long you both can go without breaking exclusiveness will tell the tale of how long a LTR will work for you. Too many people rush to marriage, then find it won't work. Do it without legal aspects for a few years, see how easy and happy it is. That will tell you more than any advice you get online. Whether or not the two of you will last it out in the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 10:26 AM
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The disconnect is you're assuming I want people to be misfits in a society that hates them. That's exactly the opposite of what I want. You're looking at this from teh side of society will never change, thus conforming to the perceived ideal that is pushed by others is the way to happiness(in my opinion). I believe society will change and want it to change such that everyone can be who they want to be, who makes them happy. Not misfits. Because once society stops telling you what you want is wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 10:22 AM
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How is the decision to change not in their control exactly? Because plenty of people suffer through situations without change, willfully deciding it's somehow in their best interests not to, while others make that choice. Their choices are influenced by various things and some need help, but when it comes right down to it the change comes by choice. No, to allow people to find what makes them happy without ridicule and being told who they have to be, regardless of whether they are happy with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 10:10 AM
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It's not cognitive dissonance. We may not get perfect choice early in life, but we always have the option to change. Society has to change to allow this better. Just going along and shrugging your shoulders won't make this happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:40 PM
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To me those questions are irrelevant. It's relevant to each individual when it comes to their life. It's not for me to decide. Likewise, my views aren't limited by now. You're frank hyoid argument in the immediate. What's best right now. I look to what is better overall. And that is a world where it doesn't matter if you confirm or not. The problem is that right now people are forced to conform in a lot of ways to get by. So whether or not their happy is somewhat irrelevant if societal forces ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:36 PM
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My opinion is to let people be who they are. If that requires breaking old molds, so be it. The right answer to people who feel out of place is to fix what makes them feel out of place, not tell them they have to be one way or the other or fuck off. And no rates are equal. There is always variance. Ego, empathy, anger, understanding are all human. We all have them to varying degrees, influenced but not limited by our gender, upbringing and individual personalities. Individualism is something I p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:12 PM
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The boxes are unhealthy. Pushing people down prescribed paths, forcing them to have traits they may not want or enjoy is unhealthy. Rigid gender roles one is ridiculed for not slotting neatly into is unhealthy. The first step to dealing with those is to get rid of the boxes. Which means accepting people for who they want to be. Whether that be a traditionally masculine man or not. Being a traditionally feminine woman or not. With acceptance, other things will change. They already are, if slowly …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:08 PM
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I don't know about you, but I feel inspired by every positive story I hear. It doesn't matter. I hear about a lot of male success stories, positive stories about the elderly and people in situations where they are physically disadvantaged and still make a positive life. All of them are great things that often make me smile openly. My best friend, female, has great empathy for everyone in negative situations who turn it positively. Men, women, children, the disadvantaged. I've found that to gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:48 AM
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Morality is order. Because morality is a common set of base beliefs that the overwhelming majority of people in a society believe in or at least pay lip service to. And you need that sort of mutual understanding to live free of fear/caution of others around you. If we did not have basic moral pillars, civilization would crack, if not crumble under the anarchy that follows. That doesn't mean one shouldn't be cautious of other people. Despite our overall common morality, there are those who, as I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:25 AM
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They likely don't care because they don't think such an artificial sex revolution will happen. Sex with inanimate objects or anamatronic objects is still considered 'bad' by society. It would take a while for such a thing to be normalized enough that any such technology because a focus of invention and production on a large scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:21 AM
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Does that analysis of data take into account the resilience of young children or the experience of older women when it comes to dealing with trauma? Because those seem a more likely reason to me than vague reproductive strategy reasons. Especially since it's very easy now to find out if a woman is pregnant soon after copulation. A woman doesn't have to worry if she's pregnant, as the clip you placed suggests. And very few women are repeatedly raped often enough that that fear lingers for very lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:18 AM
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Yes, there are many women just as egotistical as men. If you listen to TRP, you'd think most women are terribly egotistical and full of themselves. That's part of TRPs problem with them, if you listen. And Clinton and Pelosi. I think this whole 'masculine women' thing is silly. Tying a basic human trait to one gender or the other is stereotyping. The same as tying empathy and other such things to femininity. People are what they are. Making boxes to put them into is one of the ways that people a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:11 AM
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I'm representing my positions. You're expecting me to accept your definitions as the appropriate ones to hold. I don't. And you have no interest in attempting to meet half way. I do, but I can't do it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 03:37 PM
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The most important thing to me is that we get along. Because if the woman and I don't mesh, it won't last long. Everything else is negotiable. So nothing from that list is vital to me in a specific way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 02:58 PM
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Down. So the cat won't get into the bowl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 02:55 PM
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For one, can the belittling RP jargon. It's disrespectful. This is a matter of points of view and differences between them. You see SMV as a way to abstract qualities you find important to abstract. I see it as dehumanizing. Looking at a lawyers credentials is not applying a number to them. If anything, it gives you some understanding of both their ability to do a job and their personal determination. Telling someone that girl or guy is a ten tells you nothing of why. It could be appearance, bui…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 02:54 PM
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And everything you said applies to women. So what makes it distinctly male, besides the assertion of some that it just is?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 02:17 PM
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It's a ludicrous assumption, imo. And given the common RP tendency towards wanting to be alpha, one could look at such a thing positively, assuming one would be the alpha. One of the terms that floats around RP areas is 'enjoy the decline'. Not the rallying cry of those who care about the wellbeing of others if they have theirs. So it fits, in the abstract. Not for all, but I wonder in regard to the writer of that bit of sidebar material.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:39 PM
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I'm far more interested in why you think the ego is tied to masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:30 PM
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Might read the whole thing later if I'm bored, but at a glance something struck me as amusingly curious. Did the writer of this find some info that said 'pre civ' the best men had three or four women while everyone else was fighting over scraps? Because of not that seems a bit too much like personal fan fiction or wishful thinking. That aside, marriage is hardly the core of civilization. Order is. And order is expressed through managed unions and cooperation. That's why we've, on the overall, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:19 PM
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Probably because most men don't look at life as a giant zero sum game. They live as well as they are able, make money, find people to be close to, enjoy their leisure moments and die as all mortal beings are going to in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:10 PM
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Then you make poor decisions imo, given the danger in treating a wild animal as a domestic one. I prefer to look at a lawyer's record and skill set rather than how much they think they're worth. And with a person I'd rather look at who they are and how we connect than some random's opinion of what they're worth. Anyone can apply numbers to something. The fact that we have other methods of abstraction doesn't make any method of abstraction valid. Or healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:38 PM
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I don't really associate any of those qualities with masculinity. Because there is no inherent link to men when it comes to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:33 PM
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Only that change is inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:32 PM
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You're right, NPH is pretty awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:31 PM
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Instinct has been eroded since we first started civilization. The push back has been across a good span of human history and unless you plan to eschew our modern conveniences, it will continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:31 PM
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Irrelevant to my point, given that over time people's tastes change. The past and present definitions of masculinity are always in flux.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:59 PM
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Look at any wealthy gay entertainer. Because I assume you'd call most, if not all unmasculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:58 PM
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Maybe you should go actually study Japanese culture and revisit this when you actually have a handle on it rather than posting... this. Because it's obvious you have no clue about it. I don't either, but it's clear you're applying western ideas to a culture that is not like our own in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:50 PM
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Masculinity as most people define it is an outmoded concept. Life has changed radically. The way life used to be before society will eventually be a footnote. Unless a collapse takes things back that far. At that point, these discussions will be pointless. And as it always is with change, we must change with it or be left behind. Pushing to go backward is a bad idea. That's what I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:43 PM
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Salary is a market force where a specific aspect of a person is measured. The work they are qualified to do. SMV is an attempt to take numerous hard to measure qualities and some easier to measure and use that to turn a person into a number. You call a girl you think is hot a 10. You don't call a lawyer a 190k a year. There is a difference if you step past the most basic term. A wolf and a dog are both canine. But you don't generally make a wolf a pet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:36 PM
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I tend to find people compelled to state their real ends usually aren't. But I can believe you honestly believe what you state.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:27 PM
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Sure, if you want to make it up in your head. By if you want to be real, you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:18 AM
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This is a pointless question because you can't decide how hard someone is to get close to by a picture. Because the picture may suggest things about them, but all that can be applied are stereotypes based on a single moment in time. This is one of my problems with things here. People are more than a moment. Those girls, whoever they are, are more than a moment. I have no idea what their standards are, what their opinions are, what their politics are. All of which factor into answering the questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:44 AM
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I suppose we're done then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:37 AM
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In a sense, it is rational because of the visceral reaction of people. Look into history. Any time that some people try to put a value on other people, it turns out bad. When someone is a number, they lose some of their humanity. Do it long enough or extensively enough and that loss of humanity in the eyes of others can convince those who use these numbers to do things they wouldn't normally do to another human being. It's a danger when it comes to businesses, which make their money off assignin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:36 AM
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Often. Because it's true. And the context matters. If all you look at is terrible things, all you see is terrible things. For example, terrorism. People are scared to death of it. They absorb story after story about it and think the world is falling apart. In reality, you're more likely to die driving on your way to work than you are to be killed by a terrorist. But that context doesn't dismiss the fear of people who focus on the terrible things people do. Makes them act and react to a slim mino…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:22 AM
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I'm sure it would be initially. But Ice cream for dinner every night would eventually start to sicken you, I'm sure. That's the nature of getting everything that you want with no effort. For most people, it eventually gets stale.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:16 AM
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Why would I reject the concept of salaries? What someone is willing to be offered for their time is their decision. Though I am in favor of things like a living wage because I believe that everyone who works deserves to live a stable, modestly comfortable life. What I do reject are some of the highest salaries out there. Which I don't personally believe are appropriate. As to IQ, I think some people put too much weight into it. Raw IQ does not directly equate to common sense or imagination, in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 10:15 AM
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Of course not. The world is full of terrible people. But by and large those people are the overall minority. Doesn't make them any less terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:36 PM
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It's a different thing to estimate the value of a bottle of milk vs a person. In any context. Making something inherently personal less so by this sort of abstraction does seem wrong to me. And I don't see the utility of it to offset that depersonalization. A lot of people argue these days that we value each other less and less. TRP itself deals with issues of their own aspects of feeling depersonalized or disregarded. Not valued in the way they want. One would think that sort of person would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:29 PM
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Of the billions of people in the world? Yes. Because not all of those users are as you think some are. You have no numbers on the users that fit your template, so you can't take the entire userbase as a whole without some intellectual dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:10 PM
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Eastern US.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 05:33 PM
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It would likely be more illuminating to look into why. Because you can counter that with every older man and woman who have kids who care a lot about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:57 AM
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The only thing I agree with out of that is someone who knows themselves and what they want will rarely ever be unhappy. Because they know what they want to go for and they go for it. Be that a solitary life or one surrounded by a massive family. Or anywhere in between. The rest of that I can take a pass on because the core of happiness is right there. Understanding the self and understanding your desires on a real, honest level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:52 AM
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Which is a pretty sad way to go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:49 AM
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I don't really see the point of his arguments. Everyone in high effort, high responsibility jobs, save for the lunatics, likely have a lot of strife in their lives. Ultimately, society tells men it isn't ok to back down and women that it's fine to. So that's how things tend to fall. On a side note, I don't like his portrayal of those high effort jobs. He frames it like you, as one person, are managing hundreds of cases and managing countless people when those jobs are done, in total, by dozens o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:47 AM
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Sounds boring in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:25 AM
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These Tinder and Instagram women are a distinct minority of the female population. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:16 AM
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Depends on a lot of factors, including her sincerity and other such personal details. If the growing attraction is genuine, I see no reason it wouldn't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 11:14 AM
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The problem with trying to think about it as an act unto itself, unless you're the sort to dislike it out of hand, is that context is the main thing when deciding. The context of your trust in your SO. The context of your trust in the strength of the relationship. The context of who is flirted with. The context of how it happens. It all matters. Stripping all of that away just leaves teh kneejerk. Me? Flirting in and of itself isn't a dealbreaker simply because of the weight of context that can …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:06 AM
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Nothin to discuss. Everyone wants the best they can get, based on their priorities in life. And everyone has to settle for what they can get, based on personal, social and regional criteria, plus simple luck. And those who feel they haven't gotten what they deserve complain about it. Hence articles like the ones you reference and TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:26 PM
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Those guys who think a girl is into them, when she's not aren't the ones in actual romantic relationships. They're miunderstandingbfriendship or kindness as more than it is. That's their misunderstanding, save for when a woman is actually intentionally stringing them along. You and a lot of men are putting more importance on sex than belongs in my opinion. A lot of women have sex without it meaning anything as well. So it is not -the- measure of romantic connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 06:01 PM
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Personally, I don have strong family attachments, so I couldn't say. And what you meant hardly changes my argument. Life is full of strong emotional relationships that don't involve sex between mixed genders. There is no reason a romantic one can't be the same before sex. But to narrow it down, who is to say you're not mixing it up for some relationships? Sex might not come into play before a relationship gets serious for some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:32 PM
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I believe in equal opportunity and outcomes based on one's skill and talents. Which is more than we have now because inherent in actual equality of opportunity is a lack of social forces dissuading people from certain paths that are not seen as traditionally connected to their race, gender, sexual orientation, whatever. I believe in that because why shouldn't everyone to be encouraged to attempt what they want to do in life? Everyone has dreams, everyone should be encouraged to follow them. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:23 AM
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That's false. Because if that were true, there would be no serious emotional attachment between friends or family. You have sex with neither, but you can form very strong, long lasting bonds through emotions and history together. Sex is not essential for human connection. Never has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:13 AM
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If you're talking about actual phobias, we have names for those already. We don need to mark intentional, in one's own control beliefs with those that stem from actual mental illness. If anything, you're approaching this backward. It isn't are these things mentally ill, but are people who hold virulent views on a gender or otherwise themselves mentally ill by already established psychological guidelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:48 PM
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By themselves they don't. But if you're going to make a 'walk in someone else's shoes' event to do with women, heels are something that are expressly associated with femininity. And I'm pretty sure heels are worn by more than just party girls. Women of every age and class wear them. So to make only that association is very ignorant. Unless you consider well dressed businesswomen to be party girls exclusively for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 10:23 AM
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I think a story like this is ripe for interpretation. A very basic treatment from one side. But if I were to go based off this, interacting with someone online is vastly different from in person. Hitting it off from a distance is no guarantee it will last.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:24 PM
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It's a take on walking a mile in someone's shoes. And I would assume most guys might have a little more respect for how difficult it can be to walk in heels doing so for a mile. Given the event is focused on female victims of sexual violence, the term seems appropriate. It wouldn't if the event was more about sexual violence in general. And give the event is voluntary, any embarrassment would be willfully taken on. So what's wrong with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:18 PM
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Exemplify the moniker and go your own way. Or start your own. The baked in hatred involved isn't going to change. Better to leave behind those who take things too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:14 PM
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Giving up ensures you will lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:58 PM
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What law?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:00 AM
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You completely missed the point. You tell kids to look both ways to remind them to be aware of their surroundings. Not because you think they will do exactly that all the time. Affirmative consent encourages people to be aware of the matter of consent. No one, save for lunatics, expects every person to ask permission before every touch. But everyone should be aware of moments when they should be more cautious, just as everyone should be aware to be careful when crossing the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:56 PM
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Just another facet of this topic. Given the concerns some TRP folk have to height, I'd assume they would approve of making sure young boys have adequate nutrition given that nutrition has a long term impact on height.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:37 PM
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If you wanting play with such things, it's also important to ensure that people have plenty to eat as nutrition has a not inconsequential impact on height over time, as does genetics. So supporting programs that ensure no one goes hungry are important as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:10 AM
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Depression and suicide are not new. They are real issues that need real help, not an internet forum that is more likely to feed and ramp up such feelings. I don't put much stock in TRP's views on the nature of society because they look at it through a very narrow lens in my opinion. For example, take my news app on my phone. I get regular prompts when I get to my lock screen about this shooting, this killing, this fire, these deaths, this terrible thing and that terrible thing. Which reminds me …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:00 AM
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And yet people complain all the time on here about the past of women and how it changes their views on them. But that's how the human mind often works. Context changes outlook. Hypocritical? Sure, I suppose. But a lot of people are hypocrites. I'm sure everyone on this sub is to some degree, myself included. It's one of the dangers of dealing with fallible, selfish human beings. Mind, the OP didn't make the direct argument you just did, so I'm still interested in their point when it comes to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:12 AM
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Ugly? To some folk, I'm sure. To most likely unremarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:58 PM
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I don't see why this would dispel anything. There are many reasons why people do anything. So assuming this story is legit, it says nothing about other men. As to other topics, who cares why he does. Guy sounds like an asshole, starting his potential long term relationship out with a pretty disgusting lie. One wonders why he's marrying at all if he has such low regard for his girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:49 PM
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I don't see the point. I'm a straight male and I support gay rights. Just because you support someone's rights to be doesn't mean you automatically have to be into them. So what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:40 PM
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Because white knight is exclusively bandied about negatively. I would have to stretch to recall a use of it that can be considered neutral. Not to mention the term is terribly generic and prone to broad interpretation based on how an individual views it. More so than a lot of jargon terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:14 PM
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You didn't go into an analysis of the mythology of the Amazon society and feminist commentaries, tying them back to the structure for movie to show it to be more than just a study on the dangers of xenophobia. Or as it actually is, which is just a superhero movie made up from a loose use of already established comic continuity. You just pointed at the movie and called it anti-feminist because Wonder Woman defies her society's collective temperament.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 05:44 PM
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Not a woman, but.. I dislike talking to random people. Because usually when I'm out and about, I'm off to do something. My time is devoted to something, so having people stop me to talk about something I may not care about personally is an imposition on my time. And one of my personal flaws is that I'm selfish with my time. It might be anti-social, but it's done for a reason. The problem with this topic is you're assuming the main reason that women don't interact freely with randoms. Just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:59 AM
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Your view of the setting is far too simplistic. A society of women = feminism. The movie is more about xenophobia. The Amazons are an insular society that reacts negatively to outsiders. Diana goes out and finds out that the people on the outside aren’t all as bad as her people think. And obviously that doesn’t go down well. You almost make the connection yourself when you put race into your second paragraph. The basic plot would work regardless of who was on the island. A xenophobic society of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:52 AM
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I think you should always take someone's statement that they're maxed out with a grain of salt. Because what is max varies from person to person. But in a theoretical max situation, if the link in the comments is the guy, it's likely all attitude. If you project defeatism, you'll never win. Most people don't want to hang out with someone like that, and that's my not so informed opinion on anyone who casually talks about suicide like that. He should probably see a therapist about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 10:26 PM
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What, besides the one poi t you bring up, makes this particularly antifeminist? Besides that the Amazon culture is female dominated and she defies it? This seems a shallow comparison unless the character actually goes against recognizable facets of feminism itself rather than the assumption that an Amazonian society is a direct analogy to modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:31 PM
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Harshness is just harshness. Assuming you have to be treated harshly to be a man is a corruption of masculinity. GLO is still not worth paying more than a moment's attention to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 12:22 PM
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You're extending something where the writer tells you exactly what is wrong to an indirect conclusion. He mentioned specifically that he changed from what he was before and what she liked. So if a woman likes you and who you are, whatever that may be, do not change yourself from that. The point goes that far. It doesn't matter what that is. Red, blue or yellow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 05:55 AM
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No, what that post shows is you shouldn't become needy and clingy, as he described himself. To carry that on to a requirement to become red pill is a leap.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 10:55 PM
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I'm sure there are myriad other legal reasons to do so. And for some it's a status matter. There are plenty of reasons to get married, unless you have some particular stricture as to what counts as a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 10:53 PM
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Why do you want to get deeper? There's nothing wrong with cherry picking things that make sense to you from any ideology. To continue your religion analogy, I'm agnostic and I see positive things in religion. And get along well with religious folk. But I have no interest in church or learning more about the nuts and bolts of religion. When they say something I agree with, I keep it in mind. But I leave it a that. There's no reason to force yourself into a box you don't fit into.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:13 AM
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Nope. I don't tend to think of myself as any particular color.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:01 AM
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Male. My perfect relationship would be one so easy that it's not a challenge to get along and enjoy life with my partner. But it's hard to find someone you get along with that well long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:29 AM
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Of course there are some bad actors. A place like this inevitably has them. But that doesn't mean that's the majority. You live with the hardcore partisans and treat energy one with a modicum of respect. Let those who show themselves to be calm, reasonable adversaries show themselves. Likewise the ad hom slinging folks. And go accordingly. It's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:19 AM
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Thing is, I agree. Rivalry does not equate to animosity. And even then, people can agree on things. I think you're taking things here way too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 05:47 PM
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If they violate Reddit rules, yes. If not, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 05:40 PM
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Adhom aside, you're taking a single data point that would have mattered most in the tribal era and extending it as the primary reason for a behavior while ignoring thousands of years of human history and conditioning that supersede it. At one point that mattered most. Now it's a faint echo. It might be an origin point, but at this point it factors far less in my opinion than the span of human history and culture that has created current society. Of course, you're free to disagree. I see what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 05:38 PM
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I believe there are some people who are more charismatic than others by default. To whom social interaction is more natural than not. Looking at people I know, I can think of some who seem to me to be far more likable by default than others in various ways. That does't mean the others aren't, but at first glance some are just more personable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:21 AM
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I'm not confused at all. You're arguing evolutionary matters at a time when they don't matter anymore. There is no reason at the moment to prioritize women for that reason because there are far too many of us for some women to matter in the grand scheme. The entire female population of a nation could disappear tomorrow and it wouldn't effect viability of the overall population of the world in any dire way. Because there would still be billions of wombs left and plenty enough to continue the spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:13 AM
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Every woman is not guaranteed to breed. Nor is the loss of one woman a real problem these days. The days where things like this really mattered are long gone short of an extinction level event. The deference to woman is more a symptom of antiquated traditions that were, at one time, more important than they were now. Your topic remains foolish imo because it relies on antiquated ideas that are slowly dying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 05:09 PM
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Toxic masculinity is pointed out in particular because by and large actual examples are normal male behaviors pushed past reason. Being strong is healthy masculinity. Affecting strength greater than you have to avoid looking weak is the toxic edge of that which can be dangerous to the man himself and those around him. Being confident is healthy masculinity. Exerting an excess of confidence that grates on those around you or leads to offense is the toxic edge of that. Of course, anyone can do the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:27 PM
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One man and ten women would have a terrible inbreeding problem across the generations. Questions like this are foolish. Even if you try to frame it as psychological. The best ends is one to one breeding across hundreds to ensure the gene pool isn't fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:11 PM
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I'm too selfish with my time. I wouldn't be good at giving them the attention they require.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:34 PM
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Am I the only one getting just a little tired of titles like this? Of course there are ways to approach women without appearing creepy. Every time I see a question title like this, I feel like rolling my eyes. It's like some folk can't even ask a basic question without their biases leaking through? End rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:33 PM
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Of course they do. The question is how much it it factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:33 PM
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No, that story is sexual assault. Perhaps rape, depending on the local laws as some I believe consider penetration by fingers to be lumped in with other penetration. LMR is pressuring someone who is saying no to have sex, believing they don't really mean it. And hoping that you're correct and not wrong. Or that the person you're pressuring won't raise a stink about things later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:20 AM
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But if it's weird and disconcerting to stop, it is less likely to succeed in general. So yes, how you act has a strong impact on things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:16 AM
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Why? Being president increases the standard for behavior. Unlike many who support him, who feel free to give him a pass for everything they'd rabidly criticize the other side for doing, I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:14 AM
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I would opine that he's not even attractive as a provider. He's too unstable and inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:34 PM
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Being considered rapey is a factor of how you act. Not confidence or success itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:28 PM
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Never seen a woman that effected me like that. Don't expect I ever will. I think that's more of a personal thing for some men, as opposed to a man thing. It depends on how much physical beauty impacts you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 10:13 AM
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I think we don't need another term for something relatively simple. Men and women need to communicate on chores. And women should not be shy about asking if, in the moment, they're swamped. This is the most basic test of communication in a relationship. If a couple can't master this, how likely are they to master harder issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 05:44 PM
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I don't come here to change minds. I come here to express myself and to field test my own beliefs. You can't do that without exposing them to others or wading through the opinions of others to find those that resonate with you. Better with a mix of ideas, like you find here. Plenty of folk I agree with and disagree with. Love is nice, but you also have to understand the world around you and try to understand those who oppose you as much as those who don't. Understanding will do more for you than…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 10:18 AM
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Anyone who would go to war for those reasons is not someone I'd want in any army representing me. Because that person is ripe to misrepresent my country to those in other countries. Obviously I would not. But then I have no interest at all in military service in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 10:14 AM
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It's not edgy. It's easy to be 'good' when nothing challenges you. It's easy to be pleasant when everyone around you is pleasant. Extraordinary situations show whether or not someone can maintain their morals and principals when challenged. When the world around them is not optimally lined up to keep them good. No one knows how strife will effect them. I like to think I could deal with it, but I wouldn't know until it happens to me and I have to make the choices for myself without the safety net…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 10:17 AM
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Lord of the Flies was about children. Not adults. speculative fiction about children in an extraordinary situation with no females. That's something else to keep in mind before using it as a figurative data point for this particular situation. As to what help, that's a very personal question to answer. An individuals needs depends on their particular situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 10:13 AM
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Personally, I thin gender is far too talked about. But that's because people aren't allowed to simply be. Gender, gender roles, sexual attraction and desire, all should be allowed to simply be. Don't put it into a box, don't try to divide it up into subsets, don't try to compartmentalize it to have it make more sense. People should be free to explore their desires and find their place as individuals. When we talk as much as we do about it, it just devolves into trying to get people who wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 10:34 AM
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Which is why I always say, strife is what shows us who we are. If the only thing keeping you from becoming a monster is laws, that says a lot about you. That being the generic you, not you in particular. Which is even more reason not to acknowledge the contrived example. If someone in that situation is willing to do such things to get what they want, especially something so petty in the grand scheme of things, that would only harden my resolve to deny them what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 10:22 AM
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One's emotional problems are something else entirely. The mental well-being of someone near you does not require you to have sex with them. Better they get help with their issues to solve the root problem, rather than treating the symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 10:18 AM
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I would opine that most people don't know the difference between infatuation and real romantic love. And that's a main thing that gets in the way of long lasting relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 11:03 PM
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It doesn't. Because opinions vary widely. There might be a few general features that tend to get a positive or negative overall, but disagreements still reign for the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 10:56 PM
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I don't share that opinion. Never seen the hierarchy. Hardly matters. Sex is not necessary to life. Unless you can show me it is, there is little you can do to change the base of my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 10:48 PM
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Yes. He can make that choice if he wants to, nothing is stopping him or forcing him to play his role. But from the context of basic morality, yes he is being immoral. Whether he's right or wrong is a matter of opinion. Some obviously see him abandoning the others as right in context to their own personal subset of morality. But most of the world would likely disagree with that assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 10:42 PM
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Or dies of food poisoning himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 10:40 PM
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Yes, because you can't die from not having sex. There is no moral equivalency between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 10:39 PM
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A + B does not equal C. Assuming, of course, the end result you cite is correct and assuming the tale you link to is on the up and up. There is a lot of potential for assumption and misunderstanding, assuming the outline of the story is true. And someone obviously focused on sex and sexuality as the OP obviously is, is more likely to see sexual connotations to how those around him interact with him. Just to name a few weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 10:34 PM
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I've never met anyone who describes themselves that way. I'm sure they exist somewhere, but I don't advocate their life choices. There is a space between that and being an asshole where most people are. It's the difference between respect and trying too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:39 PM
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Well, keep in mind I don't look for movies based on their gendered content or watch them based on such. And that was off the top of my head. I'm sure there is more. Not sure how much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:26 PM
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I actually recall an old movie named She about a post-apoc setting with female domination in a region. As I recall, it was a pretty strange little movie. But it's been a long time since I saw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 05:38 PM
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For some folk sensitive to being judged, they seem to take portrayals of men acting badly as a personal insult. As if they are somehow liked to these fictional individuals, when they're not. And they shouldn't feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 11:16 AM
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The thing you have to realize is we see what we want to see in things. Take a story and ask people of varying ideologies what it means and you'll get differing answers based on what they believe. It's a matter of perspective. And something to keep in mind when viewing the criticism various forms of media get. Take the usual response to any show or movie that dares to put minority or female actors in lead roles. The Force Awakens for one. The new Star Trek series as another. Some of the farthest …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 11:13 AM
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That won't tell you anything about me. I don't like putting myself out online. Watching how airing your laundry too deeply on line ends up for some folk has led me to enjoy a life of general anonymity online. Which is why I prefer to keep it vague. And not let others get a rise out of me if I can help it. But that is all beside the point of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:31 AM
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I have neither. I'm not holding out for anyone because I'm not interested in relationships right now. You can keep assuming you know me, but I'd advise you stop with that whole thing. Because every assumption is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 05:35 PM
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I am neither. I'm picky with who I allow to have a deep impact on my life. The same thing a lot of men should have. Standards when it comes to who matters. Why should I get so very close to someone who I can't be open with? Who I can't trust to relax around, given that person will be an integral part of my off time? I didn't mince words in explaining it before, but I assumed you'd get it? Who has need of an SO who you can't be yourself with or trust?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 10:49 AM
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I have no use for that sort of woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 10:25 PM
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That's what some believe. Personally I don't. At least, not for the entire gender. Some people are like that, others aren't. The I can't be open with a woman, she's not much use to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 10:21 PM
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That might be another excuse, but in this context it has less to do directly with sex than the belief that it is how you can maintain power in a relationship. That, if you show weakness to a woman, she will use it against you in some respect. In ways that don't pertain to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:08 PM
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I'm fully aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:52 PM
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Then you're missing out. Nothing wrong with a healthy imagination as long as you remember the difference between fantasy and reality. Plenty of men have such thoughts, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:42 PM
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Your views will likely change overtime on that. Time has that effect on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:39 PM
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I'm selfish with my time. That's likely the biggest thing that holds me back in a lot of senses. I like to do what I like to do, not necessarily w hat others do. And relationships require cooperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 10:28 AM
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Yes. But I also have romantic fantasies and others that run the spectrum between the two. I don't really worry about where it came from. I know the difference between fantasy and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 10:07 AM
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I think it comes from the belief that a woman will use whatever weakness you show against you. Or some of them believe, at least. Comes from the same place as the belief that showing any weakness will somehow instantly cause a woman to start losing attraction to you. It pushes the idea that you have to be a stone that bends for nothing to get women to desire you and to keep that desire. I don't personally believe this of women as a whole, though some aspects of it can apply to some women. Like i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 10:05 AM
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What reason do I have to trust you sight unseen?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 09:52 AM
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I hope you're using oh in the general sense, as I'm a guy. And like I said, not everyone values things the same. I've experienced that in my life. Some people are far more sensitive and emotive than others. Telling a stranger they're wrong about how they feel about something you have no context on is foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:29 PM
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Your problem is that you're projecting. You felt this way, so other people must as well. One thing to keep in mind is not everyone feels the same way about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 09:41 AM
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Maybe you should focus on breaking it down in simpler terms. Hard philosophy annoys me and I honestly don't really get what you're trying to say. In a general sense it seems to me like trying to stretch a basic idea over others with no real link to the basic notion. Which is why you have people hung up over the sleeping with your mother aspect. That is something anyone can understand. Extending it past that needs to be done with a solid bridge of simple concepts that show why the things are rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 09:37 AM
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This sounds like a personal thing. If you get too in your own head over things like this, it can mess you up. So it sounds like it might be a good thing for you. And maybe some others. It all comes down to how much you let these discussions twist your views and distract you from living.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 09:29 AM
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I think this kid is going to get a rude awakening with his simplistic view of life and after hamstringing himself the way he has. But it's his life to waste. Who cares about his love life? Seriously. I'm not sure why what he's doing or any of his philosophical bullshit has anything to do with red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 09:24 AM
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Just about everything about Twilight. The sad thing is, a story about someone willing to give up who and what they are for love could be compelling. With better characters and story. Twilight screwed it up bad from everything I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 03:43 PM
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Obviously. Gay republicans are an example of people doing things against their own self interest in an intrinsic way. Which ties back to women doing the same at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 03:40 PM
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When it comes to one's own house, the owner's rules apply. I have no issue with her pursuing her sexuality, but we're it me, the last thing I'd want to deal with is the awkwardness of being exposed to my own child's sexuality in a place I want to feel at ease.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 10:48 PM
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Not much. But I was never a 'women are wonderful' kind of person. Pay attention and you'll pick up on a healthy amount of cynicism to keep you pretty safe. It has informed me on how other people see things, even if I disagree with how they see things. Which creates all kinds of interesting mental exercises.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 10:23 PM
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Ask why there are gay republicans if you want a broader answer to that question. Gender does not decide one's beliefs and values. Or their perspective in total.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 10:19 PM
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There is a distinct difference between talking to a woman and doing what the man in her example did. Getting closer than a conversational distance, ignoring obvious cues in posture and speech. Saying you'll check to make sure a given number is correct. I think she's obsessing just a bit, but feeling safe isn't always a component of logic. Being thoughtful in terms of social interaction is appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 11:16 AM
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Of course there can be infinite variation, but will there be? Will people sit and painstakingly make sure their child is unique or will they point at a picture in a book for a generic template? It's something to consider because we as humans can be extremely lazy. As to the ills of life, eliminating genetic ailments is entirely different from designing your child's looks. I support genetics to cure medical defects. Just not past that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:14 PM
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One of my favorite when it comes to human enhancement in general is Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It’s not based on aesthetics, but on human augmentation in terms of cybernetics enhancement. But one of the quests in the game involves looking for a missing prostitute, during which you discover that the local brothel is forcing women to get augmentations to improve their talents. It’s a theme that comes up a lot, where there is basically an arms race in a sense where getting augmented is becoming mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:32 AM
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I suppose we'll have to disagree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:10 AM
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I'm not twisting anything. Unless you consider sperm donors to be fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 04:08 PM
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I think unpacking it this much is stupid. If you use limited thinking like this, everything that people do is terrible. It takes a lot of emotion and context out of life that matters when. In short, you're overthinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:10 AM
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If you're crying constantly, you have bigger problems than that. Expressing one's emotions doesn't mean crying all the time. I don't see why you have to immediately go to the extreme to make a point on this. There's a wide field between crying all the time and holding everything in until it eats you from the inside. Edit: And I read a bit quick, I think this was the wrong sort of response for your comment. Ahh well ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:07 AM
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What exactly leads you to this conclusion? Because there is nothing in this world that forces men, besides their own emotional drives, to deal with women in any way but what they choose to. This sort of extreme dramatics is why no one can take men's issues seriously. Moving past very real problems to be hyperbolic in this way is a big problem for men. And one reason why I think TRP and the sort of ideas it fosters, intentional or not, is a problem for men more than it is a help. I don't see your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:05 AM
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In what actual real world example has openly allowing a group to spew bile uncontested deescalated friction between them and that group? One can argue that people could relax just a bit from their own bile in return, but freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism. It would help if criticism were given in a more reasoned and precise manner. Rather than broad slashes at the whole of a gender. That is something people can listen to and consider, but calling all women derogatory terms and brand…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:00 AM
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It being bad is entirely subjective. It entirely depends on what importance you put in a child being yours. To some simply being a father means more than genetics. If you raise a child, they're yours. You sculpt them in your image, regardless of where they came from. The same with adopted children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:54 AM
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Oh, him. I find it to be needlessly crass and muddied by exposition that is beside the point. But that's to be expected from the author. The basic idea to, if you feel lesser, do something about it is fine. But the window dressing is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:33 PM
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Beating on someone you hold power over is the last thing I'd term alpha. It's craven, contested or not. And that's an objective observation because what challenge is there in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:25 PM
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Another thread diminishing the agency of men. Because we obviously can't control ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:22 PM
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The issue is less his beliefs to me and more his lying about it. Especially considering the evidence alleging they aren't discarded views, but the sort that linger. He was elected on what he presented as his beliefs and intent while in office. People who voted for him, who find the new revelations about what he believes and aren't down with it, are well within their rights to be pissed that they were lied to. More people should hold politicians accountable for lying their way into office based o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 04:33 PM
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That's not what I asked either. I assumed that much. It has to do with the deception, not the views themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 04:16 PM
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I'm neither shocked nor a woman. Your point? I asked a specific question of you. Assume you backed someone, only to find out they held views contrary to what you believed or approved of. Would you or would you not be bothered?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 04:08 PM
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We'd certainly have to have a discussion about it. Just how focused they are on the past is what would determine it. If it's just a brief fit of nostalgia, it wouldn't be a problem. It's understandable, feelings can't just be turned off. But if it were a constant thing, it would be a problem. Because the present is now. The past can be remembered from time to time, but you can't live in the past when you have a future to build with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 10:12 AM
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Honestly, I doubt that the so called sexual marketplace will be the big problem if engineering one's own children becomes cheap enough to be done by more than a few of the super rich. The massive, far reaching consequences of genetic engineering are a popular subject of science fiction, including the likely disruptions and changes to society as a whole because of it. The incredible ethical issues with this kind of technology will cause enough problems that relationship issues won't be the most s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 10:09 AM
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In my opinion, this is the kind of information voters would have found very useful in the past. The particular views one holds on various subjects reflects the kind of policies one is likely to promote. And one way or another, a lot of people have a problem with what he believed before and what he seems to continue to believe. I'm sure it would swing the other way for a lot of people if he hold radical liberal views as well. You wouldn't feel something if someone you supported for their stated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 10:03 AM
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I think it's just an extension of those who cite free speech as a reason to be a jackass. While Branding civility as being PC. It's simple to speak out and against things without loading the discourse into the gutter. And I have far more respect for frank, focused speech as opposed to 'locker room talk'. I'm far less likely to listen to someone who uses that as an excuse to be overly crude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 09:31 PM
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I've been interested in this casually for a while. But not enough to drop money on it. If it comes to Netflix, I'll definitely watch it. But given that I'm not really down with TERFs, I don't believe it will effect me much. But who can say?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 09:58 AM
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This kind of question is skewed by default because it would take a certain kind of person to pay that much attention to the people around them to not only see them hitting on someone else, but to somehow confirm they themselves were passed over in some obvious way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 09:37 PM
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Ask them. Because rings can be taken off and any other attempt to read tells is like 'gaydar'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 09:32 PM
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RP overanalyzes the behavior of others in my opinion. In a way unsuited to behavioral analysis. Because folk who drift towards RP tend to be those already with problems with interaction. Which makes their sample size overloaded with negative experiences. Not to mention over thinking the whole thing in general. The above doesn't apply to all, mind. But enough to skew the results, especially since some will be looking for the worst cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 09:30 PM
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What exactly is a kino stack? Because I keep think inbox the gambling game I've heard of. But I believe that's spelled keno. Sounds like stacking touches? Forty times? I don't think this guy understands how odd that might be. I'd say if a woman stands you touching her fourth times, it's be sad she likes you, not why she likes you. Dude has his causation flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 11:14 AM
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Whenever I see a video with real people testimonials, I wonder.. how many non conforming answers did they cut out? Left one in at the end, but who can say?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 10:40 AM
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No, one of the biggest problems is that men don't talk about their feelings and issues. Society doesn't encourage them to be open, to show weakness. Your collection of friends and acquaintances might be different, but in the aggregate men not speaking up about their feelings is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 03:08 PM
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Well, I don't equate feminism as inherently about pure equality. There are Feminists who do push for it, but I don't assume everything that comes out of it is for that. Because one thing about large, unwieldy movements is the inevitable belief creep in various directions. Because different people care about different things. You can see the same thing in RP. The breadth of argument over what is and is not RP pops up often enough in comments here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 10:11 PM
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No, I don't agree with that. Pointing out one side of things is not inherently a push for supremacy. People push for what is important to them. That they don't push for the other side is normal. Does that mean no feminists are about supremacy? Of course not. Because some people are assholes. But we try to ignore them. And to be clear, I'm not a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:51 PM
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My mother raised me fine alone. If yours didn't to your satisfaction, that's not necessarily an indictment of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:33 PM
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That last bit is pretty standard feminism. The confluence of expectations put on women when it comes to their sexuality. And something, in general, I agree with them on. Though it cuts both ways as men have particular expectations on them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:29 PM
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What does 'men have been on strike' even mean, though? Because there is absolutely no sense of that in any man I've interested with. They have wives and girlfriends almost exclusively. So that term sounds a bit like nonsense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:12 PM
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The circumstances would depend. A life choice like both relocating and having your spouse quit their own job(if being reassigned isn't an option) requires a serious discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 10:16 AM
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A little from column A, a little from column B. Personally, I think a lot of this hyperbole that springs from some of these folk is bluster, backed by some real pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 10:07 AM
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As much as I care to make friends with people, it's easy regardless of if they are men or women. Bonding through mutual interests isn't too hard, as long as personalities don't clash too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:54 AM
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Your title states, or at least implies, that pimp and dump isn't a thing. If that's not what you're saying, you should be more precise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:17 PM
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Value judgements have nothing to do with what I'm talking about. And I made no mention of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:15 PM
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Yes, because prostitutes get none. Most paid fighting is a legal sports. All prostitution is illegal save for a few countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:14 PM
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Not at all. Porn is a stage managed activity that is done once and profit is continually made off of it. It generates a fandom and I would say is less likely to be an overall negative experience. Prostitution, generally, is constantly done one on one and is deeply personal because there are no cameras, no direction to make it impersonal. It's far more dangerous, far more degrading and in the end you're far more in the thrall of the person you 'work' for. Porn is regulated. Prostitution is not an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:25 AM
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Porn is not the same as prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:04 AM
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I'm challenging your attempt to disassociate the term from the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:04 AM
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A part of the problem for men is the expectation that they must stand alone. Rather than tearing down women, why not encourage men to seek help and push back against the societal expectation that men must always rely on themselves? Starting with not making fun of men who are disadvantaged or feeling emotional about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:38 AM
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Do you honestly think that men who get into MMA, Boxing and the like don't enjoy what they do? It takes a particular type of person to get into that sort of job and do well. I don't think your comparison holds up at all. Besides, how many pay per view shows and stadiums of cheering fans to prostitutes get? Your example is not a good equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:30 AM
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Pump and dump is a literal thing. If you have sex with a woman, then drop all contact(or flip it and do the same to a man as a woman), it is what it is. There's nothing about promises or anything else that changes that. It's more or less a derogatory term for one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:26 AM
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The body of your post suggests you're projecting. If you were fooled, obviously everyone else must be or they must be complicit. People on this sub aren't fooled by social deceptions to any level that isn't unavoidable, given that people aren't perfect lie detectors and anyone can tell a falsehood and play to emotion. There is no answer for the opinion that men who don't got RP must be spineless because that's purely a bad faith assumption on your part. An easy way to slot square pegs that don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:19 AM
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The thing about pills is it depends what you take. But I assume the general is to slip away slowly and, in theory, painlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:48 PM
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Never thought about it, but in general settling is when you 'stop' at a point in your life short of what you want or think you deserve. In my opinion, everyone settled at some point in their life because no one ever gets everything they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:02 PM
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To start, I'm agnostic. From my observations, a lot of modern folk pick and choose what they'll take out of religion. Though in Christianity's case most of the nasty stuff is Old Testament which isn't supposed to factor anymore due to the resurrection. Or something like that. I'm no biblical scholar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 09:59 PM
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No, I wouldn't. But i don't discriminate against TRP. Most things on Reddit aren't masterpieces. Because that word shouldn't be tossed around casually. And that dude is way too long winded. TRP posters could use proofreaders. Preferably people who aren't natives to weed out the overly long, circling pattern some posts I've seen have. Rehashing the same idea over and over and unwinding lengthy analogies becomes tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 09:57 PM
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That's really a personal decision. Because it's not a magi bullet. Nothing is. It boils down to if you want to drop thousands of dollars on the chance it might improve things. With the real possibility that it won't. Me? I'd take the less expensive route first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 09:39 PM
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More women attempt, more men succeed. Generally because men tend to choose more immediate and messy ways to die. Women choose neater, but less certain methods. Why? Good question. Given a choice between a gun and pills, what would you choose and why? For example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 09:36 PM
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Which is a bit of a nonsense conclusion. Because how one looks has nothing to do with their efficiency on the job. Plenty of manly dudes who slack terribly and girly girls who work hard and are punctual. Now much time they spend getting ready at home is irrelevant. It's another groundless bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 09:26 PM
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Obviously. And that won't happen without help. But everyone who complains about it passes the buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:32 PM
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Wrong. Plenty of men can moderate. I'm one of them. Relationships and sex are not an overriding priority to me. It's just another goal among many to accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:30 AM
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I say this all the time. Men need to master themselves. There are too many of them who can't seem to deal with not being close to women. And by being so desperate, they scuttle their own chances. Because desperation is not appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:27 AM
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Depends what 'all the Feminist propganda' is. Because that term is used a lot without much definition. And I'm sure that a lot of people will give different answers as to what it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:11 AM
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There are privileges that are made, such as preferences given for the purposes of diversity, for example. Which, for the moment, are done as necessary to level the playing field, but are inadequate in the long term. A short term solution to the problem of prejudice. Best case, it will be done away with over time. Most people also have privileges within their own communities. Because people are inclined to believe those similar to them. Privilege is more than what most people think it is, in my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:59 AM
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Personally, I see privilege as a fragmented thing. Everyone has some leek of privilege in certain circumstances. Men have it, women have it, white peoples have it, black people have it. The argument comes with who has more of these privileges. Personally, I've never tried to do a breakdown based on my opinion. To me, these privileges are a symptom of inequality which needs to be dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:26 PM
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You can break up with anyone for any reason. You just have to deal with what people think about you for t. Even a break up for the right reasons can get you negatives. As to what he should have done, he should have been honest. Especially if he feels that strongly. He shouldn't be as raw as that, but that's just being decent. He should have told her he doesn't like the change to her hair and been open with the effects. If the girl is going to pitch a fit for someone being plainly honest about so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:17 PM
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Yes, I am ware of this. Which is why there needs to be a robust, respectable men's rights movement to push back against old models.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:05 PM
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Then what other option is there, assuming for a moment that this is an issue that needs addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 01:30 PM
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Soften it if you want, but the end is the same. We should do something about it. Like what? Censorship? Because that's the only way to stop the messages you think are so bad. That's the inevitable end of this kind of argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 10:36 AM
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When any human attacks you, in my opinion, equal and opposite force is justified. If a girl only lightly damages you, 'putting her in the hospital' is overkill in response to that. Anyone should have the presence of mind to moderate their use of force on others. Generally I think physical violence should be one's last resort. But in the moment I have no issue with someone defending themselves from an aggressor, male or female. Just don't go overboard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 09:27 PM
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Go ask some conservative women about that, you likely won't find hat many who care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 04:09 PM
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How, for example, was Niles an enviable character. As much as I ban of Fraiser, he was never someone you want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 04:07 PM
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It does. Why do you think it doesn't? Because if you honestly think what we see on tv is the source of people like that, you're going to have a rude awakening.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 11:15 AM
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You mean how media should be a reflection of how you think society should be, since neediness predates the invention of television. And likely all other forms of media. Art imitates life. You want art to lie. To pretend something des you happen. You ignore that Niles is not necessarily a positive role model or is meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 11:10 AM
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Aren't you? Then what are you talking about? Because it sounds to me like you're talking about media influencing people negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 10:29 AM
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Still have no issue with it being considered 18. Personally, I think all ages of consent should be the same, given the oddness of how much it fluxes from state to state, country to country. The time at which one goes from mandatory education to entering the working world seems a natural point at which you're considered adult. Reason why is simple. Stability. The variation causes issues with people knowing where the boundaries are for them. And given a lot of legal rights come at the same time, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 10:19 AM
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Do you think that violence and war focused movies and video games encourage violent behavior. Like CoD and Sin City. Get out of here with that. Because asking what you did is exactly the same as asking what I did. And we all know how that went. People who are easily influenced will be influenced regardless by one thing or the other. Don't blame the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 10:06 AM
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It means nothing for Feminism since she's never called herself one. So nothing has changed. Because not every women identifies as a Feminist. Maybe before you do another topic like this, you should do some research on the subject. Women aren't a hivemind, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 10:00 AM
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It's not hard to realize a drunk moment doesn't give you the go ahead to do whatever. At least, I'd assume so for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:01 PM
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Shorthand: Any sexual touching while the other party is unable to respond is assault. Because consent is not implied. However, for couples into that kind of thing, it's different. The above largely applies to strangers and casual acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:58 PM
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What exactly do you find crumbly? And no, you're hitting far wide. I just wanted to make sure you'd get what I mean, rather than veering off on another wild tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:21 PM
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It means what might be considered natural to the species isn't how we measure ourselves anymore. So appealing to it as something that matters, in this conversation, is pointless. A court won't care if you make that sort of argument. You'll still be found guilty of breaking the law as it is right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:16 PM
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Because rampant violence would tear things apart. Giving people leave to answer any slight with violence would likely have a worse effect than you expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:14 PM
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So this is about picking out an early bloomer to play gotcha. Got it. It doesn't matter what is natural. It matters what is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:42 AM
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Regardless of if this article covers it or not, a reason for the disparity is sexism against men and benevolent sexism against women. The notion that men are always the aggressors is still strong in American society and most others. So even when the tables are turned, that social bias leans a thumb on the scales. It's an obvious show of how sexism hurts men and why men should be involved in changing such perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:37 AM
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You're definitely pushing into stalking territory. Tracking someone down like this is likely to raise alarm bells. It would for me, as a guy. What would I do? I would have spoken to her at the theater. Assuming they have a proper intermission. It's more natural to casually speak to her about the play as a means to break the ice. And the intermission promises a short, simple interaction. Were I you, I wouldn't mention the lengths you went through to find her. Or even hint that you know all those …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:32 AM
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It has to do with who is attempting to be romantic. If someone doesn't like how you look or how you act, it can taint what you do, even when it's great. Where you chose to do it can effect how it's taken. And who the person is factors. We all see things a little differently based on our gender, class, race, culture and personal experiences through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:26 AM
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Cheating is cheating. And those who enable it knowingly are just as bad as the others. You might give them a pass, but I don’t. And I wonder if you’d give the woman a pass in an instance of a man cheating on his own wife. Cheaters are cheaters. It doesn’t matter if you’re the one imposing or not. Bad boy or not, he’s still an asshole for his actions. Not his appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:23 AM
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Are you alright? You must have wrenched your back twisting my words that hard. If you're done being disingenuous, of course fucking not. That is one example in history of people who risked it all to push back against a system that wouldn't change my itself. And one of the worse, sadly. Women did it. The Tea Party did it. And the resistance against Trump is doing it now. People getting out, getting involved, getting active. Now if you actually want to talk about this, let's continue. If you want …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:20 AM
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Are you alright You must have wrenched your back twisting my words that hard. If you're done being disingenuous, of course fucking not. That is one example in history of people who risked it all to push back against a system that wouldn't change my itself. And one of the worse, sadly. Women did it. The Tea Party did it. And the resistance against Trump is doing it now. People getting out, getting involved, getting active. Now if you actually want to talk about this, let's continue. If you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:15 AM
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People do a lot of things they shouldn't. Doesn't make it right do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:25 PM
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We're not talking about the same thing and we don't agree on semantics. I think we've talked past one another enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:24 PM
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That's certainly a theory. Though you yourself have no proof for it. Could be right, could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:22 PM
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That's what happens when you try to enact social change. There will be people who resist it. Pushing for change isn't easy. If you're not down for the struggle, you won't make it far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:20 PM
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It's best to understand all scenarios. Focus on the worst and you get hung up on it. Keep it broadly focused and you keep a better overview.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:19 PM
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Well, I suppose you're in a catch 22. You care, but not enough to do something about it. Mind, this isn't about a popularity contest, but dispelling myths.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:17 PM
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I'm not an MRA, that's a great question for those who are. Though in general distancing a legit movement from the lunatic fringe online is a great start.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:12 PM
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Yes, because there will always be those who resist change. Did you expect something different?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:11 PM
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I'm citing the worst case scenario that was successful. I'm not saying that would happen, because I don't honk it would. It's an example of how, even with the worst opposition, success can come. If they can prevail against that, why can't an MRA movement make progress against less?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:09 PM
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And a lot of those negative connotations are due to it being illegal and underground in the first place. The reason it is an exploitative practice now is because there is no law regulating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:51 AM
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Yes, it should be. It should be legal, regulated and the men and women who prostitute themselves(because men do as well) should be protected as any other worker does from being exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:42 AM
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And that doesn't change that I prefer not to judge people from a single picture and a single act. Outside of the simple fact that he's an asshole for cheating, if he was aware of what he was doing. Assholes come in all shapes, sizes and colors. Some are always assholes, some are only occasionally assholes. If you want to sling broad judgements around, that's on you. But 'come on' isn't going to change my mind. What would is digging into his life to lay out evidence he fits the archetype you're p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:40 AM
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Saying you can easily find out someone for their beliefs is silly. Because you really can't be sure. Not everyone wears their affiliation on their sleeve. It's like the classic 'gaydar'. Sure, some gay men are obvious, but others are not. Saying you can spot any of them at any time is silly. Just like with RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:37 AM
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Creepy is an individual judgement. So whether or not it would be creepy depends on the individual being stalked. Some wouldn't be creeped out by it, likely. But I couldn't guess what percentage that would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:35 AM
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African Americans were scared of the white establishment before the push for equal rights. And rightly so considering how many of them were injured, died or ruined over it. Real, substantive activism is hard. The MRA have it better because it's highly unlikely they'll be physically lynched, have firehoses and dogs turned on them over pushing for what they believe in, since we don't do that anymore. You can't wait for someone to come save you because they won't. If you believe in something, reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:32 AM
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I support a robust, realistic, professional Men's Rights push. Because some of the topics they bring up are worth a real debate in the public sphere. But we don't have that. So that open discussion on the public stage hasn't happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:28 AM
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Right or wrong? Not sure. But the guy should take care, if she decides to sue the local regulations on posting images of others without their consent and related laws will become important. At a glance, I don't see anything positive or negative in this to comment on. Shaming others is certainly a way to react, but I don't tend to prefer it in some cases. Of course, given she's a cheater, I have little regard for her and think he should divorce her and find someone more loyal. As o the dude in be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:26 AM
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I disagree. Sailing out into the unknown, which is what Christopher Columbus did, can't be done entirely within the realm of realism. He had no concrete evidence that there was something out there. Or even here it was. That he was going the right way. It was shooting out into the dark. Being realistic can help with the planning, sure. You do what you can to make the odds better. But in the end it was a roll of the dice, which is pure idealism. It would be like you setting out into a forest in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:18 AM
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That's for the courts to sues out. I'm not interested in playing semantics with who is right and who is wrong based on opinions. Note, I'm not dismissing the kid's potential wrongdoing. But I'm not giving her a pass either, based on what he's done. If what you suggest is true, great. But I'm not interested in hypotheticals. She's a grown ass adult who should know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:32 PM
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That's everyone's choice to make, I suppose. Obviously they didn't dig deep, but that's a well trod path by every side. Not something to waste time on outside of maintaining one's own intellectual rigor in taking in what news is provided. It's one reason I consider all I hear to be preliminary. For example it was obvious this guy was shitty when he was younger. Is he still now? I'd have to look at us recent statements and voting record.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:29 PM
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Hmm. Well, if anything I would put realism into the example, between idealism and cynicism. And would posit all three are integral. Realism is good, but someone focused on being realistic doesn't take big risks. And I think a lot of what we have today relies on the big risks and idealism of multitudes. What realist, for example, would set out in a boat on the wide ocean looking for the new world?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:25 PM
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You're the one talking about religion in this context. And what do you mean what makes it part of the human condition? Ever had a dream? A goal? A sense of purpose you'd expend effort to make real? Something you'd risk yourself or your wellbeing for? All I would say spring from the idealism in everyone. Idealism takes risks. Cynicism avoids them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:21 PM
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I'm not saying anyone has to, but if you hide, without presenting a balanced picture of yourself and your beliefs, you should expect people to get it wrong. Complaining about it is a bit pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:18 PM
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I've never said women are perfect. Or even morally better than men. Such brinksmanship is pointless because people in general can be shitty. So why argue over who is a bit less shitty than the others? That's a stupid argument. And the old saying holds. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Right about a lot of things? I don't think I'd go that far because there is a lot of overreach. Some things and some general concepts? Sure. But that doesn't make RP good. A lot of bad things are built on …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:14 PM
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And there is no alternate picture presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:09 PM
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Because the only side heard are the most extreme, so they make the picture. Perpetuated by silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:08 PM
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One year does not matter. It is illegal. Full stop. You're free to feel that's crap, but arguing over that year won't win you a legal case. You disagree with the law, get it changed. As to him, if he did something illegal he needs his own court case. I'm not standing up for the kid, I don't know him. And the law protects nice people and assholes alike. The law is the law. Complaining does little without direct action to change it. It's this way because the law isn't about being fair. It's about …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:50 PM
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And the manosphere focus on the worst of women. I fail to see your problem when both sides do the same thing. One just doesn't hide in the shadows, which provides a counter narrative. People from all sides pick at the worst of the other side. TRP doesn't take the step of defending themselves to the wider public, as if that can protect them from being drawn in with the rest. It won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:44 PM
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It's statutory rape. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:29 PM
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I'd like to see the long list of stories their must be about a multitude of female teachers participating in statutory rape. I mean, if it's an epidemic, that list should be easy to produce for 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:28 PM
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That's what happens when you lurk and don't speak up for yourself. RP/TRP insists on being silent, yet people keep bringing attention to it. Thus leaving the rest of the world to make their own interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:20 PM
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Because? I suppose it depends on your views between the differences between realism and cynicism. It doesn't change the core of my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:09 PM
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The keep reading because many times I say idealism and cynicism are both required. I'm not a pie in the sky idealist. I hold true to how I think things should be, but that doesn't mean I'm unrealistic about the chances of it happening. But that doesn't change how I think things should be. Holding strong ideals and realism can go hand in hand. Some are just bad at mixing the two appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 01:36 PM
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Then we'll have to agree to disagree. I've already laid out my views on this throughout is thread. I don't agree with your framing and you don't agree with mine. Idealism isn't fantasy. It's a real aspect of the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:13 AM
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Dude, why are you taking anything off of Roosh's forums seriously? You really ought to not do that. Outside of that, Yar was and remains one of my favorite characters, for many reasons. Including hit factor. One can make all kinds of implications as to why others find her not so and can levy their opinions, but you know what I think about it? More for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:22 AM
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Stealthing is bad. I don't know if I'd go as far as calling it rape, but it's an obvious violation due to the danger it involves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:15 AM
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Why point it out as virtue signaling when it's objectively a bad argument. The point is the virtue signaling isn't what makes it wrong. The lack of an argument is what makes that statement wrong. The point is that virtue signaling itself, which everyone does, is not what makes a statement wrong. Go for the heart, rather than pointing at the window dressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:06 AM
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Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. And he's welcome to his. That's pretty much the main thing I think about that. Obviously my opinion is different, but I'm not going to force do things my way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:48 AM
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I'm not talking about spending one's life over ideals. I'm talking about idealism as a part of human emotion and personality. I'm not talking about religeon because I don't view looking at history and pointing out the real, substantive effect it has on human society as mythical. Which would be required for a realistic belief in the power of idealism to change things. It's not some unknown quality. And I'm not saying it's magical. You keep trying to push this religion idea to dismiss my views, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:46 AM
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You seem very focused on what you think of idealism. And you seem to only apply it to men. Save for your casual 'women to a lesser extent' sideline. Man and women embrace idealism. I don't see why you feel compelled to gender it, like everything else. Except, of course, your embrace of reed pill concepts, I suppose. I'm not noticing anything I haven't known for some time. What I'm talking about is not some recent realization, it's how I view the world and how I have for a long time. Idealism is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 12:14 AM
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I don't consider myself anything. I don't like political and ideological labels because they tend to be used as means to bludgeon one another or parcel people into generic categories. If anything, I consider myself progressive in a general sense. When it comes to Feminism, I don't consider it as useful as it used to be in today's world. It's too broad, has too much baggage and so forth. I don't follow it closely, I don't study it, I generally ignore it. I'm not sure what you mean by what idealis…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 11:12 PM
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I wouldn't say that's a blue pill claim. A lot of people in various groups go the pics or it didn't happen route. And most of us here maintain a level of discretion when it comes to revealing who we are because it's the Internet. And the Internet is a dangerous place for personal information. Especially if you run in controversial circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 11:03 PM
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Continue following the comment thread and you'll see applying the concept of religiosity to my views is wrong. And I'm not a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 10:52 PM
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I said idealism leads to positive change. Not that it's the only path to positive change. Unless you honestly think there was no idealism in the push for suffrage or the push for changes in race relations. Or in seeking to improve the lives of gay and trans people. Philanthropy, Doctors without Borders, etc. Idealism is a strong force. That doesn't mean it's infallible or the only path to take. Or even the best path all the time. It's not a religion when past effects back up the simple fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 10:51 PM
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Ok, real talk. What the hell are you talking about? All I said was that there is room in the world for idealism and cynicism. And being idealistic has an impact on the world. If it didn't, a lot of things that do work and improve the lives of people in this world wouldn't work. You might want to take a step back and reconsider what you're arguing about because you're arguing past what I'm saying. Or get all of what's in your head out in a blog post somewhere or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 09:53 PM
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Belief in how the world should be is why we've had movements for social change. If everyone acted how some RP folk think we should(with a focus on the self) then we never would have had, for example, a radical change in race relations. There is a place for cynicism and being idealistic in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 09:36 PM
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Assuming their connections all link up, I can tell him why listing accomplishments gets him ridiculed. The wrong tone or laying it out at a bad time can seem boastful. Which many see as a negative trait. Especially if they don't care about that side of your past.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 09:22 PM
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That's fine. Everyone wants different things in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 09:14 PM
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Would I? Sure. Sex is not the most important thing in a relationship to me. If it is, why get married? Most of the time you spend with this person is going to be out of the bed. If you just want sex, why commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 04:29 PM
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Fair point. I jus think it isn't a good idea to compare it to a real world situation like that. Fear for a loved one who does dangerous work is often balanced by the positive aspects of what they do and an understanding of the necessity of that job. Dread from dread game does not have those balancing factors. So the source might be similar, but the overall feeling wouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 04:10 PM
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That's the thing, though. Sometimes the best answer is for people to figure it out. Trying to find a one size fits all solution will end up with a lot of ill fitting relationships. Because people are different and want different things. And even within one country the landscape varies. Advice for someone in NYC won't fit a guy in rural Alabama.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:38 PM
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Things like this aren't given. Feminism didn't reach it's goals because things were given. It took decades of activism, agitating and pushing back against common culture to get where they are today. That kind of work is part and parcel to any major social change. You want certain things? Figure out how to shape up the current MRA into an active, effective social movement rather than where it's floundering right now. Dreaming of sex robots and other such bullshit is not going to solve these perce…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 10:29 AM
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Your argument ignore the fact that men and women are raised to hold things to different levels of importance by society and culture. The messages they're shown are different and what their parents and friends tell them as they grow are different. That women and men aren't greatly different in default physical ways does not change that the world around them treats them differently. What's sexist/misogynistic is to prejudge people based on their gender. If you meet a woman on the street and immedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 10:24 AM
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Your definition is pretty much what I thought the point was from the start. The problem with pointing out it's like a dangerous job is that a dangerous job is not one you take because it will make your SO fear to lose you. And you do what you can to mitigate that danger and reduce that fear. Dread is intentional use of emotional manipulation to get someone to do what you want, rather than being direct about facing a relationship's problems. It would be better to openly, directly talk about the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 10:18 AM
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Which it hasn't. I'd be surprised if anyone has seen a day in jail over it. But if they have, it hasn't been reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 09:58 PM
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The first, simply because it proves a bond beyond the good times. Which, to me, is far more important than a flock f admirers when you're on top. The true test of a friend or a lover is will they be there when you really need them, not when you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 09:14 PM
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What do you want to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 09:12 PM
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Dude, you know absolutely nothing about me and my situation. You don't know my age, my region, my sexuality or kinks, my interest or lack thereof in sex or relationships. Please don't waste your time. I'm well aware of myself, my faults, my strengths and my place in the world as I prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 06:34 PM
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Nope. Because nothing is static. Things change. So no dip is lasting. You need to push past and come through the other side. I know, easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:49 PM
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Yes, I completely understand. I just find that duality to be needlessly simplistic in a world of shades of gray. One can recognize patterns without buying in fully to the point of view of RP. Life is not black and white. Attempts to make it so are inadequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:47 PM
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When did I say I was red? I'm unaffiliated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:06 PM
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To the exclusion of all else, yes. In addition if that's their desire, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:31 PM
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Then I've made an error.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:29 PM
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It's what you call blue pill. What little you know of my views, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:16 AM
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Alright. Consider something that would shake your basic level of trust in your place in the world around you. That will help you to understand. We all have specific expectations about the world around us. Things we think are just the way life is. Not having our bodies touched in an unwanted way is one of them. How much each person's level of unwanted is varies. Does that help a bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:15 AM
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Meaning what, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:12 AM
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Yes, I've seen that. It's in a single town in the UK. So how many guys have been jailed over it so far. Been months, so should be a few of its a problem, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:11 AM
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Personal responsibility and thoughtfulness towards the world around you and your place in it, both of those over and under you. If I were to make one up off the fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:23 PM
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Must have been something in the header of the page that caused my podcast to go silent, then. I'll look at it, but I really don't care to argue true red pill. I'm neither. I don't like labels and the preconceptions they heap up from first blush. I've always been told that red pill is just tools to interpret and use as fits an individual's situation. Ultimately it doesn't really matter to me because the whole thing is simply tiresome and, in my general opinion, unneeded. But I don't expect others…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:16 PM
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I think social pressures will have more impact than others. If acceptance of these sort of people were greater, more people would find an attraction to them because I believe that how you're raised has a strong impact on what you like in other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 04:23 PM
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Personally I dislike the economic abstraction that are those two acronyms. But focusing on the question, I wouldn't doubt there is a lean towards women in general, but I don't think it's the terrible, dire thing some play it out to be. And even if it is, there is no active fix that doesn't attempt to turn back the clock in a negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 04:19 PM
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You'll have to argue purity tests and no true Scotsman with them. I'm not interested in your video, so feel free to sum it up. They call themselves red, so that's what they are for discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 04:08 PM
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The mentality that dismisses things like this out of hand is the sort that led to the lingering opinion that men can't be raped, which is sexism against men. And the one that puts a casual pass on issues like rape in prison and so forth. More a funny joke than a real problem that needs to be addressed to some people. Deriding a man for caring about his relationship with a woman he obviously has feelings for is a path you can take. Toss out some derogatory jargon and call it a day, secure in your…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 01:33 PM
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And to what degree does this apply? A girl who had a MFM threesome a few years back and liked it, but didn't do it again? Or is there a certain level of liking it that is required? Personally, I find this a bold assumption to make. You get into an interesting, but unverifiable opinion on female psychology there. It might even fit for some women, but I'm skeptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:46 AM
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Because people have started to shed the notion that men can't be raped. And have labeled all uninitiated sex that is undesired as what it is. Rape. Whether or not you'd be cool with it is immaterial. The only thing that doesn't make it rape to you is that you wouldn't be unwilling, so to speak. Personally? I'd take her to court.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:41 AM
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I'm not sure just what you're getting hyped about here. Exactly what double standard is this post touching upon in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:37 AM
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There are a lot of reds who will disagree with you on that particular bit of jargon. And you're automatically wrong because there is no one template that perfectly fits billions of women across the world. Literal absolutes are always wrong. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:29 AM
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What you do in your head is your own business. Personally, my only issue is when this fantasy bleeds out into staring and generally acting strangely around a woman who you're interested in. I'm not the thought police, but I know having people staring at you and otherwise can be disconcerting. So if you keep it in your head, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:23 AM
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There is no body here to tell me what this book is about. Because I have no interest in going to read it myself. In part because I have no desire to give Rollo dollar one of my money. And, in my opinion, I have better things to do with my time. If you're going to make a post here, at least take the time to put in a summary and compose your own thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:17 AM
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You don't have to sob over it. Personally, all I think I would ask of you is to be understanding that not everyone thinks like you. I'm sure there are things that upset you that wouldn't upset me. But if you talked about it, I'd at least be understanding, even if I didn't get it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:16 AM
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Your point of view is different from the two who told those stories. Some people don't mind having sexual contact forced on them without permission. Others find it to be violating. It depends on your own view of your personal body autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:12 AM
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I'm not going to make your false choice. Everyone has agency, but needs protection from those who would exploit them because it's society's role to look after one another from elements that aim to use strength or guile to take from or harm others within the society. Making that into an either or choice is, to be frank, bullshit. As to women's influence on 'their man', look at the terrible anti-woman legislation popping up all over the US today and in other countries. If women had that kind of ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 06:12 AM
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But it isn't always true and making statements that promote it as true for all is harmful because assuming all women are automatically motherly is a problem. For example, that is likely one of the reasons women tend to win custody of their children more. The assumption that the children are automatically better with her, regardless of other potential factors. That's the problem with stereotyping. It skews one's views of reality when one assumes a quality of everyone of a certain type. Positive o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 06:06 AM
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Yup, there are people like that out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 09:29 PM
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I know your opinion on the matter. And that article gives no indication of who spearheaded the ban, though I'll go out on a limb to assume the majority of Iceland's government is male. Who could, if they wanted, not be pushing for this legislation if it wasn't desired by some men and women. Who something benefits isn't an answer to my question. And how much it benefits women is questionable, especially when it comes to RP. After all, isn monetizing sex to a women's benefit? What would benefit th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 09:28 PM
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Benevolent sexism is still sexism. Branding women as universally empathic and whatever else is still drawing a broad stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 09:21 PM
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There is a difference between being rude to rude people and casually painting a broad swath against an entire gender. I know it's supposed to be 'not bad' and 'not all'. Doesn't make the shorthand any less usel as and lazy in my opinion. I'll call a bitch a bitch any day of the week, save when it suits me to be diplomatic or polite. But tact is not a bad trait and while some might try and use the term e 'right' way, it remains what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 09:17 PM
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It benefits no one. And I'd never vote for that. Because it's stupid. And you do have something to shoes that women convinced men of that, yeah? Because I doubt that's the reason in full.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:56 PM
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If you want to hard enough, you can see a lot in everyone around you. I acknowledge things in your jargon fine. Plenty of women are terrible. But I don't forget plenty of men are the same and plenty of both are fine. I don't look for the worst in everyone. I look to see what is actually there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:53 PM
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I don't tend to kneejerk apply any major qualities to them because I know people can surprise you. I think a lot of men project from their own experience and build up a effigy in their heads to link to 'slut' which is automatically applied to anyone who is hit with that label. Sure, they might adjust it when presented with evidence of the real person they are, but without that real information all that is left is the caricature in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:29 PM
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Oh, you're certainly wrong about one thing, plenty of folk are terrible. Not most, but life is a lightly seeded minefield. Nothing to hide under your bed about, but good to keep in mind. As to the rest I don't disagree, but overcoming such as things is far easier said than done. Everyone has to decide on how far and how fast they go. Not everyone can just jump in and swim.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:20 PM
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I find it interesting you actually believe that. But I suppose time will tell. I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:14 PM
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And ignoring the experiences of millions within the span of billions. I know your numbers argument, it doesn't sway me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:10 PM
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Two things. First, of course you think women look better than men. You're a straight man. By that very thing, you're biased on what is considered a positive appearance in a man as opposed to a woman. There will be more qualities that draw you in women than in men. Second, I'd assume gay men in fashion are more drawn to women's fashion because it's a more robust and accepted field. Men's fashion is not something that most cultures focus on because that's tradition. It has little to do with women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:34 AM
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Personally, I agree. Though most BP people seem to be more aware that their experiences are their own then most RP people. Simply because RP people are willing to try and define the world at large based on their own experiences. Which is kind of the point of RP for some who follow it. Looking at life through a figurative peephole and stating that's all there is to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:25 AM
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Always assuming everyone has no time for you, sure. Assuming a stranger who is openly doing things and not outwardly looking for contact with strangers is considered by some to be polite. Because assuming otherwise and making contact is an assumption. One that can be entirely wrong and result in a social faux pas. Or you can get lucky and the person will stop what they're doing to talk to you. It all comes down to how much you're willing to risk to make contact with a complete stranger with no l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:23 AM
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What exactly will be criminalized? If you're going to drop a useless comment like this, you might as well go into specifics. And how long will you have to be in literal jail for it? Back up your hyperbolic comments with meat or keep them to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:18 AM
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Sorry, but bullshit. You want to make a nuanced point about social pressures on men, go for it. But don't shorthand it lazily with a word that has a specific meaning and get upset when people call you on it. It bears repeating. Words have meanings. Criminalize has a specific one and using it improperly in a lazy and hyperbolic manner should be called out. Especially here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 04:30 PM
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You did notice me saying I do just that sort of thing, right? Or must you respond as you did reflexively? Nothing I said was unreasonable, yet you're painting me as something not at all represented by what I typed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 04:10 PM
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If this was meant to be a question about yourself being judged, it was poorly formed. But why we do things matters. Some people are annoyed when people make a decision on who they associate with based on one factor. Rap men are guilty of it as well, decrying women who don't choose to associate, for example, with shorter men. Why should a woman's choice matter to others? Because we as humans are judge mental creatures. Especially of those we think are judging us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:21 AM
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On the story thing, keep in mind a few hundred or a few thousand stories out of billions of people is hardly statistically significant. If you're going to push that. If I went by the feed on my phone, murders happen every day, hundreds of times a day, so I suppose I should be scared to step foot out of my house for all the chance I'm going to be murdered, right? Or robbed, or otherwise terrorized. TRP is a concentration of people with similar stories, fears or ideals. In any concentration like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:05 AM
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Depends on the woman. How many times a woman has had sex is one aspect of her personality that doesn't dictate the rest of her. I'd have to make a broader decision based on more than just one factor. That's how you deal with real people in the real world in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:50 AM
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In general, I don't think so. Someone with a lot of accusations against them, maybe on a case by case basis. But I don't know that anyone would have the thoughtfulness to administer such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:49 AM
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Not really. Because not everyone is as social as everyone else. Especially when interrupted. Some people like for randoms to just come up and talk to them for no reason. Me? I generally don't. I'm not an asshole about it and will disengage as pleasantly as possible, but it doesn't change my preference, most of the time, for not being bothered unless it's something important. As an example, I'm walking somewhere. I want to get there as quickly as I can. Someone stops me to ask for directions. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:46 AM
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Hardly. Whatever one's motivation for interjecting on someone who is obviously busy, it's a problem. Regardless of who is interrupting or being interrupted. Guys hitting on girls is just another reason among many. Most people who get annoyed at being hit on would get equally annoyed at other people interrupting for other reasons that don't meet up to someone's standards for not getting annoyed at being distracted. Personally, I get annoyed when people interrupt me from reading or otherwise enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:07 AM
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Why should someone not go to their favored place to settle and have an overpriced coffee? Just to make sure some random doesn't walk up to them? Some people like to get out of the house. It's not an invitation, being out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:04 AM
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Anyone approaching a stranger? Yes. Because what happens afterward doesn't change the intent of the original act. Going up to someone who you don't know, with the intent of picking them up is inherently selfish. Mind, that doesn't translate into it being bad. Selfish is a particular word. It is usually used in a negative context, but it means focused on the self and the gratification of the self, without consideration towards others. I would say most people who approach a stranger aren't chiefly…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:01 AM
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You twisted that pretty hard. It's more like a disdain for strangers who don't respect that this person is clearly busy with something and interrupting them for selfish reasons(because hitting on someone is done for oneself, after all) can be considered rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:04 PM
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It's less a matter of having time and more a matter of focus. I've been interrupted while in the middle of something before. The first thing I feel is annoyed. Which is starting off on the wrong foot immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:59 PM
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Or he noticed someone busy and didn't walk up and interject himself, distracting them from what they're doing. Which most people find annoying at face value, putting you at an immediate disadvantage socially. Though I'm curious, what would you have done? Assuming you would be the type to interrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:57 PM
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One can imply that he's saying educated women are too uppity and he prefers them with less education. If one were being uncharitable, which is my current mood. So I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:14 AM
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I don't believe pure wealth has ever been a focus of gender inequality complaints. Inequality of that sort tends to be more the focus of racial inequality and class inequality. Opportunity, which can lead to wealth, is more a subject of gender inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:12 AM
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I would doubt it's completely random. It links up with one's graduation from High School. The official end of a young person's mandatory education. Both considered a moment of advancement into adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:06 AM
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I find it interesting how many talking heads and discussion groups linked to the manosphere as a whole seem unconcerned or unknowing about how many far, far right and fringe individuals they lionize. It doesn't really help messaging to link yourself to extreme people with beliefs you may not entirely be down with, but they grasp at anything that seems to support their ideals, despite what damage it might otherwise do to those ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:03 AM
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So do you actually believe this or is this just chest beating? Real talk, because if you do believe it, your sense of scale is off. You should take a few steps back and reevaluate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:00 AM
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Had I a child, I would raise them with exposure to everything and let them decide over time who they want to be. I don't know who you think I am and what you think I believe, but I believe in choice. Giving a child the broadest exposure so they can learn first hand about life and every facet of it. I wouldn't raise them as something in a bid to forcefully make them what I expect them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:57 AM
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I would assume the dildo business is about producing sexual toys to produce sexual pleasure in men and women who use them. What do you think it's about? Given the various odd and unusual and not penis shaped configurations they come in?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 10:33 AM
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Contradictions are less of a problem. The biggest issue with that list is how long it is. Low N and high libido are unlikely to be in the same person due to averages(depending on one's idea of low N), but I wouldn't consider any of them a hard contradiction. The bigger issue is that list of qualities narrows things down to a very thin subset of women, making it unlikely you'll run into her among the billions on the planet. Edit: Moved to Automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 10:23 AM
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If she wanted to become a man, sure. If not, no. Just because people point out areas of privileged doesn't mean that they want to be men. Your question comes off as strange, rather than some kind of skillful gotcha for the Feminists. And I wouldn't have myself go through it because I'm already a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 10:16 AM
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You answered my question fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:08 PM
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First off, real talk. Your constant use of manly in this is more amusing than useful to getting your point across. Next time reconsider pumping out the same term dozens of times like that. Second, one of the things I find most annoying whenever the topic of masculinity comes up is the inevitable portrayal of men as two shades. On one hand you have the purported ideal of the maculine man who apparently is hot shit from top to bottom. And the only other option is the weak, childlike, sissy man who…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:07 PM
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I got that much. Why is this particular detail something you feel the need to assert?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 04:13 PM
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In a general sense, the one in which I and my partner are happy. Which can have many different configurations. I'm not the sort to have pie in the sky hopes for a precise, storybook relationship. That kind of myopic view can cause you to miss something that's still good, but not on your radar. An open mind is far better in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:33 AM
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Nothing, as long as you're content with your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:24 AM
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So, what's the point of this post? Arguing the links and the assertions aside, what's your goal in making this post? In the most concise way you can express.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:23 AM
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Depends entirely on two things. First, their personality. Because someone who is easygoing and willing to agree to disagree, even if we occasionally get into a debate on this or that, is the sort of person I can bend for. Second, just how broad the divide is. There are many paths of divergence and some are worse than others. Some irreconcilable. Even the most beautiful body can't make up for the personal opinion that someone is a garbage person with garbage ideals. At least, not for me. But they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:14 AM
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The simple answer has been given several times already. Instinct is imperfect. The human mind tries to find patterns that make sense to it One common pattern is that beautiful is good. Symmetrical is good. Normal is good. These are not things that are always true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:14 AM
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At the core? If people in general cared a little more about others besides themselves, the world would be a better place. In almost every way. Because that disconnect is part and parcel to a lot of the strife in the world today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 10:18 AM
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Never really considered if that's the top priority, but it's high. Because happiness is contagious. And presumably the person you're in a marriage with should be someone that you care a great deal about. It follows that their happiness is a very high, if not highest priority because.. why else would you have married them? If that person isn't one of your highest priorities, I would think it's a good idea to look very closely at why you married them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 10:08 AM
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Honestly? I've had extended times where I'm alone to do my own thing as I want. Sometimes it can get to be a little much. I need to do a little purposeful work every so often to break it up. I might still keep a part time position, even if I was a stay at home. Depends, really. If a child was involved, that might be enough to break things up. But all of that is speculation, assuming I decide to get into a relationship. You really need to get the 'every man would' line out of your head. Just beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 10:05 AM
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I tend to dismiss extremists on most sides. The extreme SJW is just as bad as the extremists on other sides. I've seen plenty of their bullshit on Reddit and other places. You have to accept that there will be a lunatic fringe you have to filter out to do anything productive. Elements of the concept of privilege are worth considering, but pushing it the way some do is unhelpful to realistically exploring the inequities in society and deciding what, if anything, might be appropriate to do about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 01:23 AM
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Old traditions are outmoded. Women's work and Men's work is an old concept that needs to be done away with. People should do the work that suits them as an individual based on their desires and abilities. So the way I see it, all work won't be done just by men or just by women but by those who want to do it. If there are stay at homes, they will also be those who want to be. On a personal level, were I in a relationship, I could see myself being a stay at home. I don't know if I would like it, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 01:09 AM
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One of the most ludicrous things anyone has ever said is that enough is always enough. Be it love, sex, money, fame, power.. there will always be people for whom all of it isn't even enough. What's best is for everyone to know themselves and know where they are most happy and try to get there without ruining things for those around them. If you're an insatiable individual, be that. But be open so people know what they're getting into and can decide if they want to be a part of that. Don't get in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 12:58 AM
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Ex-gay tends to be demonized because of how it's done. It's about fear/disgust of the self and seems more about forcing down what is as a means to gain acceptance. I've yet to hear of ex-gay therapy that is what I consider healthy. To me, it's the same as saying the choice to join a cult should be respected, though I'm not directly linking ex-gay therapy to cults themselves. Though ex-gay tends to be exclusively a religious thing. I don't think I've seen any atheism based therapies. No fap, in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 12:38 AM
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Probably because discussion is better than voting and as we're not usually in /all or other such things, we don't get a lot of drive by voters. I would assume most of the votes here are from regular posters and lurkers. On a personal level, I almost never vote up or down on this or any subreddit. I prefer to comment, rather than vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 12:29 AM
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I'm more interested in if their research on it holds any water. I can see both sides of it. In some cases, knowing something for sure can cause friction, even disruption. But in other cases, knowing can settle things and calm things down. It's a bit of a toss up as to which way the wind will blow. I can understand the desire to promote peace and stability, but I don't think this is the right way to go about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 12:16 AM
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I think political correctness is overblown as a threat to anything. Some people, pro and con, take it too far. As is anything in life. But most of the world pays it only as much mind as they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 12:10 AM
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Well, there's your problem. Religion's influence on relations between men and women is often backwards due to long held, but not exactly useful traditions and expectations. It can be positive, but it can also be negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 10:43 AM
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I don't believe my state to be majority liberal. I work in a job that has a lot of different cultures and a decent mix of men and women. I see men and women interacting and chatting a lot. Even horseplay. Not perfunctory, purely job based interactions, but break time and after hours social interaction. Hanging out in work areas when work itself is on the low. All that. So my personal window into the world says you're wrong to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 10:41 AM
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That's a very specific set of requirements. So I would say his standards are too precise, in my opinion. But if he's cognizant that he's unlikely to find that specific person and have them feel the same way about him, then that's on him. I have no problem with high standards, as long as one is realistic about them and their chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 10:27 AM
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Dunno, that's only one aspect of his personality. Confidence around women and charisma are just one part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 10:23 AM
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The more people the draft involves, the more likely the draft itself will be thrown out in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 10:22 AM
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The Internet can be wonderful or terrible. Places like the Incels subreddit are terrible places to find good, positive encouragement. But there are other places where one can find positive support and help to make progress in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 10:18 AM
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That does make more sense, yes. And how you say something can be very important. Especially on Reddit. This is home of the overreaction and overreach, after all. But I'm glad to understand you better. On a personal level, I'd suggest you not care how other people are. If they act strangely, that's them. It shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable in that way, but I know it's hard not to be effected by those around you. I'm hardly immune from such things myself. Either way, have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 10:13 AM
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I don't expect you to say anything, I'm expressing my views. Speaking of which, looks like there is a topic to explore with plenty of personal views now. I'll leave our discussion as is. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:47 AM
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I was in a discussion with this individual. I find the comments in this thread very interesting in context to that discussion. Thank you all for contributing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:35 AM
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RP is too simplistic to apply to kink. Kink requires an open mind and RP does not, in my opinion, encourage that. Some of the comments spell that out to me. Amusingly, with all the talk of BDSM, I see BDSM as a kink that can certainly lean RP. As usual there are people misunderstanding what BDSM is, mixing it up with bad fanfiction and laymen who don't get what it's about. It's all about trust and dominance, not abuse and forcing the unwilling. The relationship between a sub and dom is one of hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:31 AM
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I find your view of BDSM problematic. If anything, real BDSM is something RP would find very appealing. For a male dom and a female sub, it's all about the trust that the woman gives the man. Being the sort of firm, trustworthy person who can earn enough trust from a woman that she will willingly place herself into compromising situations for that man. Bring that sort of man is very much what I would consider 'alpha'. Were I one to care about such terms. It's not about abuse and domination of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:26 AM
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This thread seems to be a Trojan Horse for another incel focused thread. There is no real discussion going on between the OP and those commenting. The OP is just venting his views, imo, while other people bring up valid counter arguments that aren't really addressed, just dismissed summarily. My main problem with it, the overwhelming flood of absolute statements. One or two can be expected, but the OP has a very precise view of life and it's not a view that this thread will change. Ever. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:20 AM
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I don't know much about Australia's economy, but I do know that making it illegal for people to pursue their life choices is, in general, something I oppose on principal. With a few caveats. And I doubt that Austraila's unemployment rate for those who want a job is zero, thus it would stand to reason there are still bodies looking for jobs, which would make it unreasonable at this time to try to force those not looking to take jobs others actually want right now. Regardless, in a situation like …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:13 AM
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A poorly done message muddies the waters and makes it less likely that the listener will pull a positive from it. Thus it does detract from whatever is positive within it. That's why you should care. Because if two men find positive in it and one man ends up acting negatively because of it, then that's a problem to be fixed. Message is extremely important, especially if you intend to give someone advice on how to approach the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:03 AM
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Well, to dismiss your absolute statement right off the bat, Feminists do address matters invoving men. That's just a few moments glancing through Google. I don't know why some here seem so in love with absolute statements. Because they're so easily cracked. My thoughts are that you have no basis except for your own bias to tell you that no Feminist does something not in her own interests. So as a female supremacy movement, why would even one of them care about how men are portrayed in fiction, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 09:59 AM
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Simplifications are for laymen. Those who actually attempt to analyze only start with the basics, then drill down into the hard details. They don't leave things generic, filled with jargon and unrefined. Some TRP folk might dig deeper, but they leave behind broad phrases that muddy the waters. In what way does telling men that women will never love them, as a gender, help a man understand the concept of love or understand women? It's primed to belittle anything a woman does in that field with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 09:46 AM
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That's the thing. If a message comes off as wrong, you change it so it more closely matches the intent. But they don't. Which means either they don't mean what you think they mean or there is no drive to refine their beliefs in a constructive way or one reason or another. As to the usefulness of the message, I would leave a decision on that to women. Because I honestly don't have to context to decide if its positive or useful or not. Because not everyone likes to be the same way, so I imagine so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 09:40 AM
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I'm not a deeply emotional person. So I wouldn't assert I've felt what most people consider live in their heads. Though specific to your question, I do love my roommate for her qualities, but it's strictly platonic. More I recognize the mechanisms behind the shorthand that I consider the word love. It can be based in feelings and emotions, it can be based in more practical concerns. It's different for everyone, depending on just how they approach such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:20 PM
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If feminine is meant, they should say feminine. Because words have meaning. But I'm not going to assume that what they mean is what you mean because they say 'child' enough that I can't casually accept that they really mean feminine. Because if that's what they meant, they would say it. My motto is say what you mean and mean what you say. And if you say it incorrectly, correct it yourself. I don't doubt your description of how it feels for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:38 AM
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Glancing over it, the general theme seems to be, 'oh they don't see it because they're not alpha enough to get that behavior out of women'. Which is an amusing spin on trying to undermine opposing views. Nothing more in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:34 AM
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First off, calling me a White Knight is exactly a personal attack. Because in this context it’s a term that insinuates that I’m ‘defending women’ in a bid to be noticed by them and hope for sexual favors. Which, to me personally, is deeply insulting. And broadly is an attempt to belittle my argument without facing it by calling my motives into question. That detail aside.. No, I didn’t read the article. I’ve read other moments in the past of RP people talking about what they think this term mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:28 AM
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How do you understand a behavior by simplifying it? Understanding a subject means drilling down into the details. Understanding why, not sorting people into broad categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:13 AM
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You mean being against oversimplified generalizations is anti-intellectual? Unscientific, sure. I never made claims to being so, so you can brand me as that if you want. I care little about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:11 AM
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Why would your argument change mine? I'm arguing against painting a gender with the same brush, not arguing for sameness. Differences are present between genders and go beyond them. So what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 06:37 PM
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If you want to say something substantive, do so. And leave the personal attacks at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 06:31 PM
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Personally, I see this sort of talk as a mental placebo. Another so called heuristic to justify how some TRP sorts think women should be treated. Because if she do any really love you, believing that puts you in a mental headspace where some acts are more palatable. Ultimately it's just like female attraction. Another instance of telling women at large what they think and dismissing any disagreements as lying or ignorance of ones own self. Note: I'm not saying all women love perfectly. Plenty of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:40 PM
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If things are changing as much as you seem to think, those norms won't last. So that problem will fix itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:46 AM
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No, it's fact. Someone who is nice is nice. Someone who claims they are nice isn't necessarily. Because anyone can claim they are something. And by no means is anyone who says they're nice automatically an asshole. But that does not make what they say instantly true. It comes down to action, not words. I might be missing what you think TBP says, but I'm speaking for myself alone in these comments. I claim no deep knowledge of everyone on that sub. I have not read it in a year or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:22 PM
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We think that men who claim to be "nice guys" on the internet, usually aren't nice at all, and thus criticizing them on that. This is identical to believes if a guy is nice and is rejected by women, he must actually be a manipulator or have ill-intentions. Im saying the exact same thing you just said. If you think those two things mean the same thing, it concerns me. One is saying that if you have to tell people that you're nice, it makes people question if you really are. The first says nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:11 AM
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That's debatable, but I don't see what that has to do with my comment. I'm saying without those trappings, the basic advice is completely neutral to either side.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:04 AM
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Honestly, your window dressing of red pill and blue pill can be stripped away. Being interesting helps. Being boring doesn't. Boring does not imply blue pill any more than being interesting implies red pill or vice versa. They aren't intrinsically linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:17 AM
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It really is an odd topic to discuss. Whenever I see it brought up seriously, I end up wondering just how much these folks who talk positively about them believe that these will somehow solve problems they see. The idea seems more of a band aid fix to a problem that is better confronted in a more holistic way. Though that's harder than just finding something to cover it up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:01 AM
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It's called Always Human. Other people might not get out of it what I did, but I've found it to be quite enjoyable thus far. The world is very high tech. Though fair warning. It is a same sex paring, though there is no naughty stuff outside of PDA. Work safe, if not ideology safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 01:27 AM
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The problem is less the apps and more how people use them. Using them in lieu of actually meeting face to face is the problem. Using them as a conduit to vetting out those you want to meet and then meeting them to see if there is a connection is a more responsible method of using these apps. As usual, the problem is how people use technology, more than the technology itself. Technology is a tool. You get out of it what you use it for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 01:22 AM
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One of the main issues with discussions like this is people always ask if they can do something, but rarely ask if they should. VR's issues with adoption early on aside, assume it grows in influence and technology. Assume it becomes cheap enough for people to gain easy access and issues with sickness are reduced by some measure. Is encouraging the unfortunate to lose themselves in a virtual world helping them? Would it be appropriate to push people away from a connection to reality? Sexbots/AI A…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 01:08 AM
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Assuming this is real(that is the worst spelling I've ever seen, hard to take it as real), no. There is no moral excuse for it. But to take an extreme example like that and hold t up as a reason to be scared of dating is a bit much. You can look at the worst outcomes in every aspect of life and come to the same conclusion. So why aren't you cowering under your bed from every terrorist now person that you might meet who has vile intent? This is the kind of outlook I find intolerable. Because it r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 11:19 AM
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I’ve been considering something new to do in off topic posts. But I’m not sure about the reception of it. Given posts like this, with ludicrous premises, seems bad to leave a thread with something so off the wall as the only path to discussion. What is there to discuss when someone presents a CMV where it’s pretty clear changing anything is impossible? I was considering posts exploring media I’m familiar with which deals with male/female interactions and personalities in a way that is distinctiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:26 AM
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I've never heard anyone tout equal outcome, the ludicrous OP aside. Such as there is of it. Really? No text? Not even an attempt to justify it? Or expand on what is at the center of your belief? You can't enforce equal outcomes. Only opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:16 AM
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In general it's given me more context for a lot of things. Some of my views have moderated some and expanded from the first time I heard about subjects such as these. I used to think a lot more harshly on TRP than I do. That's mellowed some and I don't believe it's the terrible danger some portray it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 12:31 AM
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Just don't complain when someone does the same with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 09:57 PM
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Personally, I wouldn't ascribe to something so backward. If one cant trust heir partner of themselves to eco it self control and fidelity, forcing it is masking the symptoms of a problem that should be addressed. At least that's how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 09:17 PM
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No, you're reporting your opinion as an outsider. Groups battle over what defines their group all the time. The internal requirements vary from person to person and change over time as the views of hose within mature. And you forget the key point. One can believe in everything a group does without being a part of it. They can even reject that group for whatever reason. All of which makes your topic pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:33 PM
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I would not care to guess because I hardly know you well enough. And funny thing? What you think is required for membership in a group doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:18 PM
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Sounds archaic to me. But it ultimately doesn't matter to me either. Because of all the things to pop my monocle about over him, that's the very least I would consider troubling. This story is noise, rather than signal when it comes to calling him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 10:11 AM
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Yes. Because beliefs exist independent of the group's that hold them as part of their dogma. Which is why you often get similar elements between disparate groups. Makes me wonder how many groups I could tell you you're obviously a part of based on what you believe in. Maybe you should give that some thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:34 AM
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It doesn't matter if they match every point. If they don't align themselves as Feminist, they aren't. You can say they have feminist beliefs, but they aren't feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 09:14 PM
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Most people think they're unique or special in some way. One of the reasons I have yet to post despite having a few ideas kicking around in my head is the thought that the ideas aren't well formed enough for a good topic. Some could stand to self filter a bit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 11:14 AM
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I'm not RP and not a Feminist. You should reevaluate your assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 11:09 AM
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Quality has been a bit of an issue, but an open forum is going to be like that. Problem is, people entertain those terrible posts and give them the sort of attention that encourages it. If those topics got no comments, they might fade away a bit. Moderation of something like this is hard. Even with the best of intentions, striking a balance between openness and quality control is difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 02:03 AM
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Inherently? Not sure. But in practice, with a lot of prominent voices who lean both towards various levels of conservatism and red pill, a certain connection. I don't think I would say it's necessarily inherent between the two, but the connections are present between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:25 PM
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It's hard to deny that anger is a part of Red Pill with concepts such as the anger phase and acolytes who pass off anger as perfectly natural. One might argue how much it is a part of the thing, but unless those aspects are culled, anger is a part of Red Pill. And of course others are going to look at that as a problem. Though anger has some uses, by and large it's a negative emotion. Personally, I think the idea of anger needs to be pushed back. Because it's not as useful as some think it is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:28 PM
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It only would if the only measure of those terms were how often someone gets their dick wet. Very few people believe that is an accurate measure. I'm not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 04:08 PM
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There is no 'the' solution. The usual question is the wrong question because no one solution will solve everything. It depends on the man and his life situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:18 AM
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No idea, since that isn't a topic I bring up. But were into guess, the one I suspect is my best friend and both very high on empathy and loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:19 PM
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I consider it misuse, which waters down a term into meaninglessness. The broader you spread it, the worse it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:16 PM
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I suppose that's one way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:14 PM
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I think you misunderstood. I have no problem with pronouns. If someone who is Trans wants to be referred to by their preferred gender, that doesn't bother me. But it sure does bother some other folk. Much like the whole alpha, beta, etc thing annoys me. Though I don't tend to write screeds about it like some do for other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:14 PM
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Personally I find the whole divide people into generic buckets thing tiring. I suppose like some find dealing with pronouns and gender tiring. Though pronouns are far simpler than this alpha/beta/omega/beta stuff. To me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:20 PM
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If that's the only problem you could fix it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:15 PM
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We're that exclusively true. Truly honest people do have to watch for those who might try to take advantage of them. Truly dishonest people are always looking for an in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 01:32 PM
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I don't have proof, just as I have no proof of your claims, nor a solid, deep view into your life to pinpoint the precise reasons you seem to have no luck. Funny thing about the Internet, we have to decide who to believe when talking about other people's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 01:29 PM
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Lying is the web you weave. And getting away with it grows harder and harder with each strand. Remembering the lie, not getting yourself tangled in them. Lie often enough and eventually you will slip up, reveal yourself and the problems start. A life with few lies is far better, far more relaxed given you don't have to maintain the facade and stress yourself in keeping secrets that can damage if not ruin your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:44 AM
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No pill. Late 30s. Male. Agnostic. Personally, I find religion to be yet another of man's double edged swords. It can lead people to do wonderful and terrible things. It can lift people up and lead them down dark roads. It, like most things in life, is what you make of it. Like inspiration, it's a tool to be used, but not everyone uses it well. It's hard to tell, really, just what life would have been like without it. For example, would the Pilgrims have come to North America were it not for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:41 AM
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I find him watchable and not disagreeable overall. And I find the questions on his sexual orientation to be amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:36 AM
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Not really. I know guys who get casual who don't have all of those. And I'm sure the reply will be 'outliers'. But that doesn't make this fact any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:27 AM
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Well, hiding it was your first problem in hindsight. And seems like a problem in a lot of marriages. Lack of communication. And no, I'm not saying it because I think that would have magically fixed things. But it would have done something, one way or another, to address the issue sooner rather than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:25 AM
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Men aren't yet a minority in media representation. Though some act like they are. Or scream bloody murder whenever there is a move towards equality. That's likely why some don't take it seriously. Because a lot of public talking heads who speak against diversity are, to be frank, ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:20 AM
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I don't. Because it doesn't change my opinion on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:13 AM
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Ditto, but it seems to make some people uncomfortable to be something they aren't in a game. Or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:13 AM
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Yes, people misuse terms all the time. Doesn't mean it should effect my usage of it in the 'proper' way. People misuse terms that are considered derogatory all the time. Consider how flagrantly SJW gets thrown around with venom, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:12 AM
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If a marriage come down to a 'fight' over sex, both parties need to reconsider why they're together and what systematic fixes there are for the root causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:28 PM
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And see how often overuse of it leads to ruin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:16 PM
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Well, of those the only one I've seen was the first Paul Blart. Anyone who took that movie as a window into reality deserves to. Though it was a serviceable 'dumb' comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:15 PM
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The video game aspect is less about insecurities and more about wanting to feel represented by the character you play once in a while. Some people care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 04:57 PM
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There aren't even that many movies like that, unless you consider attractive leading men to be nerds. How many male protagonists in romantic movies even come close?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 04:55 PM
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I don't speak for the way other people misuse these terms. Take that up with those who misuse it. I don't appreciate the spread that has occurred with every descriptive term that can be used against others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 04:17 PM
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Everyone could use a course like that. They should expand it to the whole student body. A little more politeness could go a long way for everyone when it comes to social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:28 AM
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There are no Blue Pill beliefs because Blue Pill is not a unified, opposing philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:13 AM
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One could draw that conclusion. As long as it doesn't get you into trouble. Just have to take care with making sure that second part is the foremost aspect of whoever you are drawn to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:10 AM
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Bad advice pops up in every sector. Though I've never seen that anywhere. I would think people are best finding equilibrium within themselves. If only to reduce the air of desperation that doesn't help when it comes to getting close to someone. But as a tool to get where you want, rather than an ultimate goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:08 AM
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It could just as easily represent the biases of the individuals who concocted the mythology. You choose to decide they're born of literal truths. I think they're born of individuals perceptions of truth. Could be either, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 12:17 AM
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And? That hardly addresses anything about my comment. If you need to be scared of someone to be drawn to them, I'd consider that a personal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 12:14 AM
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I think you need to rethink your concept of masculinity. Because physical threat is hardly the way to build a proper relationship. Power through fear rarely comes to great things. Those who wield it rarely last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 11:05 PM
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I've read some. Every story has faint hooks in truth because people write from experiences they have and are told and stories they've heard as well as their own imagination. But ascribing too much weight to those myths is foolish. You might take some vague notions away. Things that offer vague guidance. But applying it to a gender is hardly appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:58 PM
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Because most people don't look at life and think, 'I have to try and set numbers and models to this'. And, personally, I have things to do besides spending hours trying to put the world to order when it's unhelpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:54 PM
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I'm here to fill time and test my beliefs as well as expand my understanding. No more, no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:48 PM
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What lessons are couched in hyperbole because a real story of human nature would be far more boring than tales of magic and beasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:45 PM
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You don't have to be those things, but I don't expect you to just believe some random stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:42 PM
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In a general sense, not the brief example above. I hear that often. That whatever antics someone put out there are just a way to get her attention. No matter how off-putting it is. The example above is far too brief and limited to really tell what's going on between the two in it, assuming it's real. Far too little before and after it to give any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:39 PM
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Myths are rarely based in truth. It's based on supposition, legend and imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:36 PM
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And what reason do you think this is? Because I can think of multiple reasons for it. I would assume you think because it's truer to life. Some would think it might be because of how people see women, regardless of what is or is not true. Personally, I'd have to look deeper into it to make a definitive statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:33 PM
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Only if you choose to accept that. I hold people responsible for their actions. Whether or not they want to be is immaterial. I suppose it might be subjective to some, but not to me. People think and act upon those thoughts. They hold responsibility for those actions. What vestigial instinct remains in the species is no excuse, nor should it be allowed to be. Exceptions could be made for extraordinary lie circumstances and measurable mental issues, but that is another topic entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:32 PM
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So acting out and being offensive is ok since they're just trying to get her attention? If so, I heartily disagree. I see clips of that sort of sentiment periodically and it's never anything but embarrassing for whoever decided making themselves a sideshow was the best way to get a stranger's attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 11:13 AM
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It's also wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 11:07 AM
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Sirens are mythological creatures. Vamp and Femme Fatale are tropes, often used in fiction to present antagonistic female characters. You might want to go into more real, substantive detail about these concepts in reality if you want to draw in someone who doesn't already agree with your ideas out of hand. At least, if you want someone to agree that women are inherently dangerous. Charismatic men and women with low moral character have always been a problem for people IRL. Both genders are fully…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:30 AM
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A man's decision to put it into a woman he knows is taken is his mistake. Not hers. As much as you push the 'no choice' bullshit, he has every choice to turn around and walk out. This is entirely controversial, unless you're a TRP acolyte who accepts the 'gatekeepers of sex' narrative. To put it simply, takes two to tango. And both of them are to blame when it's knowing on both their parts. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:15 AM
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To me, the entirety of the biological imperative nature of TRP is a push to abdicate responsibility for how one acts. If everyone is just acting out their instincts, there is less need to feel guilt for doing things that are considered unsavory. Such as cheating. Disconnecting from morality and leaning towards 'nature' which is seen as amoral and blameless. It's dangerous for people to internalize those excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:13 AM
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No, I just know the difference between fantasy and reality. My fantasies aren't who I am, they're interesting explorations into possibility. There are some I would, but for the most part I'm content to leave them in the realm of fantasy. And some aren't even really possible in reality. Which precludes them from being done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:10 AM
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If you honestly believe that about yourself, I pity you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:08 AM
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As example, I don't claim to be red or blue pill. Or any other designation. Because I don't like the assumptions it places in the minds of others. My views lean in several directions and if someone thinks I'm wrong, I'd rather make sure it's because of that I think and note little blurb by my name. I apply that to every aspect of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:13 PM
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Eh. These kind of topics are like someone trying to make a so bad it's good movie. And forgetting the second part. But fun and amusement are a part of this post. It's already given me a smile or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:10 PM
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Everyone knows arguing on the Internet is worthless. But sometimes it can be thought provoking. For me, this is not one of those times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:08 PM
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Everyone lies at some point. A world where everyone always told the truth in every instance wouldn't work. That said, certain lies should always be avoided. Knowing omission is more or less the same as lying, however you wan lot to spin it. I expected expect a certain level of candor from those around me, on a scale depending on how close we are. The closer we are, the more I expect the truth in general. But even someone I'm intimate with, I would expect would lie to me or omit small things from…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:36 PM
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That's why the best path is to take no title and let no overriding set of beliefs take precedence over your own. The less you care about movements, the easier it is to keep focus on what you believe as opposed to what 'we' believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:31 PM
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Bad return on investment then, since my questions took less time than the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:29 PM
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That's a very low energy rebuttal. Everyone else puts you to shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:28 PM
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Why are we being asked to waste time with another fanciful hypothetical situation? What is the allure of this sort of societal fan fiction? Is there a point to this topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:54 PM
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Sadly, that's muddied with a lot of negativity and demonizing. Few do more to tear down men than TRP. Just look at those who parrot the concept that men are worthless. They may tack on a bit of positive sentiment at the end, but they're still tearing down their own gender at a basic level. Fostering that sentiment is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:51 PM
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True, people generally don't take it well. But some take it worse than others, attacking them in ways that can be considered unacceptable. No one is expected to be happy about rejection, but how you treat others as a result is something we all should examine about ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:41 PM
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I don't know about others, but just wanting or desiring something was never the issue for me when it comes to NiceGuys. It's always how they react to rejection. Not just being upset, but lashing out. Turning instantly on the person they supposedly love. Showing absolutely no regard for that person, despite their supposed care for them. Entitlement, if some term it that way, can be shown in how you react to adversity. It's understandable, sure. But not something to accept from people. I'm a firm …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:18 AM
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If you say so, but hey. Outliers, man. Why worry about them? Doesn't mean that TRP is good. Individuals can find strength in anything. Even negative experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:12 AM
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Only if the guy had no idea the girl was hooked up. If he does, then fuck him just as much as her. At least, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 10:02 PM
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Either way. It all comes down to framing one's life in a way to make one powerless. That way, if you fail, it isn't your fault. But the point is that at the core, TRP is just as simple as anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 10:01 PM
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In particular when it comes to cheating, both are at fault. You can accidentally have sex with another man, outside of some ludicrous deception. So why wouldn't I hate both the woman who betrayed me and the man who took part? I wouldn't extend it to every woman because that's stupid, but the enemy is not just other men. Men and women have to take responsibility for their choices appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 09:17 PM
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Doesn't it? I would say the central idea is much like feminism. Men are underprivileged, women are worshiped and no one cares seems to be a central tenet of TRP. Everything else branches from that core concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 09:12 PM
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Women are not homogeneous. So embrace that fact. Then you can move on to being realistic about people in general, rather than putting too much of your faith into simplistic, unhelpful concepts made by other people. Take people as they come, always be a little cynical, but pleasant. Give people a modicum of respect, as deserved by a human, and let them show you if they deserve more or less by your standards. On a sidenote, I find it amusing that those who feel most victimized by prejudgement tend…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 10:27 AM
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So we're talking about people's fantasies and applying that as what they want IRL. Which is a stretch. Because, personally, I have fantasies about things I would never do IRL. Some of my favorite games are extremely violent, but IRL I would never want to hurt a real person. Fantasy is not reality. It's an escape and often exploring subjects that are unpalatable IRL. Not always, but often. I'm sure most people here have things they have fantasies about or otherwise explore through entertainment t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 10:18 AM
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Because misinformation is dangerous. Just because something is wrong, doesn't mean it has no effect on the world. Look at the number of actual cults out there. A lot of bad, shit information. And they cause a lot of problems. Wrong doesn't equate to harmless. Sidenote: Not calling RP a cult. But using cults as an example of wrong information that's dangerous despite having no grounding in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:28 AM
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Both. Ideals are always both a target of reverence and a target of ire. It depends on how the person views it. The question is, what's the weight either way. Do more men idolize or revile?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 01:30 PM
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Not at all. It's more getting too deep into this kind of stuff in general. It's a good idea to get off of any snark sub every once in a while and get in touch with real life. Some people get too involved in the conflict and it can be bad for one's mental health to immerse themselves in it too often. I take breaks from PPD often. I enjoy the sub, but some of the views here make me sad. I have to remind myself they're the views of the minority and their impact on life in general is minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:22 AM
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No they don't. Men of all shades are using soft power today, pushing the government at the grassroots, marching, protesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:18 AM
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They're putting pressure on the government. On local republicans who are bending. Through them, as was the purpose of our system, they can effect change. They might not stop Trump entirely, from whatever they disagree with him on, but they are exerting influence on the government through a grassroots push in numerous states. That's how the system works. That's how soft power works. Makes me curious. What do you think is this magical quality that lets someone somehow use soft power and how does t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:17 AM
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Because he was black, you mean? I suppose. But the point is that people throughout history, men and women, have used soft power. It's the tool of anyone who knows how to use it. Most people who are in power just never need to. Like I said, people are using it every day today to protest the government. Men and women. The point is, this is not something exclusive to any one subset of people. Some people just don't know how or have the fortitude to use it. Those who see themselves as downtrodden ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:50 PM
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Didn't look through many of them. But the one with the girls protesting for BML was amusing. What does it matter who their boyfriends are? Just because they protest for something, doesn't mean they have to go out with black guys. The disconnect from that one is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:48 PM
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I find it amusing you talk about men not being able to use this soft power while also lauding Martin Luther King's use of it. The reason MRAs don't do well at it is because they don't know how to use it. King knew how to use pressure. You see men and women doing a lot of pressure in the modern day, all across the country as they resist Trump. The MRA can do it. They just need to want it and they need the fortitude to push when there is push back. But most tend to quail and cry about bullies when…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:39 PM
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The beliefs of some people are contradictory. They want to be what they claim to despise. They rail against what they see as wrong, yet in an instant they would do it if they could. They aren't people to go to for consistency and sense. Fortunately there aren't so many of them, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:35 PM
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Nah, I would have posted this anyway, because some people are like that about age of consent. But it doesn't have anything to do with the post, thus why it's here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:03 PM
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Regardless of if the OP had this in their sights, someone will likely push this argument as a reason to do away with age of consent. Which ignores why age of consent makes sense as a thing. One certainly can argue that some young people are more mature than their age. But one can't say most are. The law has to set a standard. A milestone for when most will be considered of age. Leaving it up to judgement will end with a lot of youths used by those with more knowledge and resources than them. Age…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:30 PM
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Personally, I find cute far more approachable and 'relaxed'. Were I to speak to someone, I'd feel more comfortable speaking to someone I found to be attractive due to cute factors than one attractive due to hot or sexy factors. And I think cute appeal is more often unconscious rather than deliberate. It's less likely to be an intentional construct to attract others. Which I tend to find to be more real. Of course, all of this is my own subjective point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:31 AM
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Reading some of OPs comments, they seem deeply invested in coloring the reason people are upset to fit their obvious ant-feminist bias. Ultimately, this post is useless because there is no actual evidence, outside of personal opinion, as to just why individuals are upset at the light sentence. An opinion is being placed over someone's reaction to something without any evidence to support it. Which leaves the suggestion flimsy an without anything to anchor to except for one's own personal biases.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:25 AM
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If you think anything on most 'Reality TV' shows is real, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sure every contestant has a producer whose sole purpose is to guide and maneuver the person into all manner of drama and bullshit with the aim of getting better ratings. The show is all about portraying over the top romantic fantasy, flavored with bullshit drama. If that's being 'Chad', then being 'Chad' is pretty shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 10:45 PM
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But those points of manosphere doctrine aren't all there is to all of the group's you mention. They aren't the same. And not everyone in one group would consider them part of other groups. It's like saying your average feminist is the same as a TERF because they hold some views in common. When they certainly aren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 09:11 PM
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No, I think they below to individuals who may hold some personal affinity to one, two or more of the above to varying degrees. To assume they're all lock step or the like is to dangerously generalize a lot of people. Better to let individuals tell you who they are than to personify them through one or two beliefs to hold a list of others that may or may not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 06:35 PM
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You're being very lax in saying 'the manosphere' encompasses all of my be above. Especially the alt right. There are places where they overlap, but they aren't the same. And being that lax is a problem. It encourages unhelpful generalization. And it should be clear why that is unhelpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 04:19 PM
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No, any such assumption would be foolish. But there is notable overlap. Just how broadly they overlap would take significant research.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 04:16 PM
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I suppose i depends on what you term as White Knighting. Because like most pejorative terms, it's typically overused. Anyone who speaks in defense of a woman, warranted or not, tends to be accused of it. Which , like any other pejorative, makes the word useless and turns use of it into something to be ignored and mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 10:17 AM
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I wouldn't term deduction leading to sex as rape in general, with the possibility of exceptions. If a woman is willing, she is willing. However I find outright lying and deception to be highly questionable. Lying about one's lifestyle, for example. It could be actionable in some capacity, but I would be cautious about rubbing it rape, save in distinct circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:49 PM
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They do when they are drunk at meet the fat girls while drunk and horny. Or from the Internet, such as from tinder. But they will not do it the way normal couples meet. Like a mutual friends gathering. That's a moment where a lot of people make decisions they normally wouldn't. Men and women. What's your point? I mean, we could likely find a lot of women who bang someone they normally wouldn't under exactly the same circumstance. Which nullifies your point of that being unusual or noteworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 10:22 AM
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no, Trump is a man who thinks that Global Warming is a hoax and all of the people he put in charge are negative elements like him, especially the man in charge of the EPA, who is another climate change denialist who has ties to the fossil fuel industry. Right now the biggest challenge to improving the environment in the US is the people in charge of our own government. It's very simple. Until they're out of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 10:17 AM
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You're assuming that prejudice is based off of logic. It's not. But if you want to see justifications for why someone would treat women in a starkly different manner than women, look at TRP rhetoric on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 10:14 AM
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What RP perspective is that? Sex is as much mental as physical. If you're no in the mood, it hampers things. Mood, situation and context can play into the pleasure one takes from the physical aspect. So why wouldn't a woman get off on it if she finds the acticity enjoyable along with her partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 10:38 PM
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What are you even talking about? They should have looked at the content of the messages sent them, rather than judging the content based on gender. In matters of business, what someone puts forth should trump anything else. How does gender effect a proposal put forth? Not at all. That people's responses to what is offered change based on gender shows how they allow biases to color how they deal with matters. Which I would consider a negative because it shows that your judgement is easily clouded…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 12:53 AM
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Honestly, if I'm in a situation where I have to pick people based purely on their gender, I wouldn't put much stock in my chances to start with, given how ludicrous the situation is. And yes, my beliefs are strong. It's sad how many people in the world have flexible enough ideals that they lose their spine in teh face of adversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 12:50 AM
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Given those being he only chances, I would go based on what they look like. Build, tone, how they carry themselves and how they dress. I wouldn't trust my life to the whim of general statistics. And if it was a blind choice, I would pick randomly. Because that's what it would end up being. A random choice with no guidance on what matters when it comes down to a real world situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 10:18 PM
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You assume evangelicals and hardliners are the majority of believers. They aren't and beliefs between believers are varied on such topics. As to future demographics, that isn't a topic I've studied. Used to be religious belief was far more the standard than it is in many societies. The future is rarely as clear as we think it is. The law is the law. But people have the power to change it or to embrace other nations that better suit their beliefs. As the past shows clearly. So I will disagree wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 07:39 PM
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The last bit aside, given it has no bearing on the currently optic and is an argument unto itself, I'm not saying I'd be with any particular person. You're trying to get me to pick people based off one quality out of numerous. One which, in my opinion, is low on the effect scale when it comes to survivability in such a situation. I'm stating, as I have multiple times, that if I had a choice, there are other factors I would look at first. And making a choice based on whether one is male or female…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 07:34 PM
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No worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 05:50 PM
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I'm not a sociologist, so I really couldn't say. I point at the constant shift of cultural mores and traditions and the easy conclusion that they will continue to change. Likely in a similar trajectory, though things can always change direction. Personally, I think the more progressive arc of culture will likely continue, influenced by the continued presence of new young people and the inevitable dying off of older folks who tend to be more set on traditional methods of thinking. The young, in g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 05:49 PM
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We can once Trump is out of office. Better yet, dropping fissile fuels for investment in more sustainable fuel sources that aren't finite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 05:22 PM
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I personally have no plans. Because it depends on how culture plays out year to year. Answer me this. Why do arguments like this inevitably progress towards ludicrous questions like that? Not just the transhumanism aspect, but this assumption that people who promote cultural change must believe in forcibly making the world conform to their views?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 05:21 PM
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Gender is not he biggest factor in the situation, so I ignore it. Like had been said, skills and trust mean more. Whatever factors the gender of those involved effect, in this circumstance it's meaningless. Because the notion that girls are more emotional doesn't factor. Because knowledge and experience retard any effect that vague predisposition has. And it would be sex is a reproductive system. Gender is different, remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 05:19 PM
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Why would that effect my point? When it comes to pop culture I'm not bullish on the collective 'intelligence' of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 05:15 PM
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Hardly. Muscles are a physical attribute that can as easily conceal inadequacy as project actual confidence. Buying into someone's surface presentation without exploring the truth inside is foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 02:36 PM
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I couldn't answer that question concretely with those limits because gender means less than talent, training and personality. Gender tells me nothing. Whether I can trust and respect these people tell me everything in a crisis situation. Because when it comes down to it, men and women can betray you. Vague percentages when it comes to how certain genders might be aren't what I'd hang my chances for survival on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 02:34 PM
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Then that will present a continuing challenge for the human race. But we don't know enough about the brain yet to pin that down, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 02:30 PM
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Experiments like this point out that, while we've made progress, there are lingering ideas and expectations when it comes to one's gender. We've made great strides over the decades, but the detail work still needs to be done. Only time and perseverance will erode the lingering quiet biases in gender, race, sexuality and other differing qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:47 AM
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You're making a lot of assumptions. Intelligent people aren't all stuck up their own asses, as you seem to suggest by them being aloof. They can also be extremely pragmatic and see the use in traditional gender roles for cultivating one's image. Or they can be like anyone else and just like to look good for whatever personal reason exists. I'd love to see some numbers on your theory that smart people tend to be/act more androgynous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:21 AM
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The results would be the poor getting poorer and to some degree an increase in the number of poor people becoming homeless and starving. I don't see how this would effect marriage and the like. But I assume what you intend by it is to have women's economic position weaken so they're forced to marry, as things were back in the 50s where the expectation for women was to get married and be supported by their husband. Personally, I fund cultural regression a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:16 AM
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For some highly attractive women, it might be the uncanny valley effect. Especially for models. Their images are edited to emphasize various qualities and if done wrong or just too much it can look fake to some people. Push an image too far and it crosses over into something that shouldn't look right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:10 AM
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I don't consider redhead attraction a problem at all. Right there with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:08 AM
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You gather people who share your views and you take the time to lobby the government. Meeting with local officials is a start. As a test case, getting a county or state to adopt a chance and showing that it works is an effective way to promote it. You might look up information on past pushes for legislation to find some tips on how things like this traditionally gets started. Generally, it takes a lot of time, dedication and hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:05 AM
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Gay vibe is an interesting thing. Because some gay men are more obvious than others. So when someone is successful in finding out the more obvious, it builds their confidence. Yet I wager most gay men are far more invisible than most realize. If they weren't, there wouldn't be so much shock when one comes out to their loved ones. There wouldn't be a need for 'The Closet'. Considering muscles, you might consider who those muscles are for. I wager most women aren't into guys who are overly built. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:03 AM
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No. I would say that more men than women are taught basic survival skills. And that most men, taken as a group, are not. So it hardly matters since most men and most women would be in trouble lost in a place without the amenities we're all used to. Personally, I was a By Scout when I was younger. But it's been a while and I doubt I could easily survive out in the wilds by myself. Wilderness survival skills are no longer prized by most human societies because the times when they were needed are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 10:58 AM
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I don't consider the desert island scenario useful because most people, men and women, would have problems. The only differentiating factor is training, which is a factor of upbringing, not gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 10:17 PM
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Society would fall apart either way. All discussion on this is largely pointless and always has been. But it can be amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 07:29 PM
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It changes nothing for me. Sexism was never a part of why I think Hillary lost. And no amount of likability will change Trump's issues with incompetence and inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 05:56 PM
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Some believe children do better when taken care of by a parent rather than a caregiver who is not a part of the family. But what could a mother or father do as a stay at home parent? Assuming their work gives them significant time to burn, part time work at home via telecommuting would make a lot of sense. Roles don't vanish as technology changes, they evolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 05:53 PM
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Women are perfectly capable of everything men do. Perhaps not to the same degree, just as men aren't suited to do everything women do to a degree. But that has more to do with culture. A woman who works at it can do largely anything a man could do. Without men, women would adjust to fill necessary roles. Just as men would do the same in the opposite. With regard to work, neither gender is irreplaceable. Because one thing humans are predisposed to is adaption.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 05:47 PM
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Not necessarily. When it comes to a partner's past, some people might react to that past with jealousy, fear of loss, competitiveness or feelings of inadequacy. Hatred of other men is not a common part in my view. Most of it comes down to one's own personal feelings and how they reconcile the past, positively, negatively or neutrally. Extreme possessiveness could be an aspect for some men, but it's no exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 12:11 PM
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Figure you'd have something more substantive than that. Ultimately this is all speculation. But any company could limp along for a day without almost anyone, man or woman. My point is that women are no less important to the steady flow of business in the world. Because both genders are in key positions, high and low, that keep things stable. Men and women are needed in the positions they hold, which is ultimately the point of this. Not that one is greater than the other, but that everyone is req…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 11:37 AM
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Who isn't aroused by being desired? You think men don't enjoy being the object of sexual attention from attractive women? Makes yours kind of a nothing statement if that were true. People are aroused by enthusiastic, willing desire from another in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 11:31 AM
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I couldn't tell, since you didn't link the video. Maybe you should do that. Or give appropriate search results for it at least. And this is hardly an isolated thing. The day without immigrants happened before this, so it likely took cues from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 11:28 AM
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Influence sure. But people act like a fictitious story somehow directly informs how one views reality in a strict way, as opposed to influencing how one thinks life should be. Which is a different topic. Because that implies one still knows how life is, despite how they might want it to be. I wish life was like Star Trek because that particular setting pleases me. But I know it isn't and likely never will be. Because I know the difference between fantasy and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 11:15 AM
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TV does what? I assume you have something to back up that claim. Because I'm pretty sure I've never seen myself or my roommate go into some kind of trance watching TV. And no, I haven't seen whatever that is. Why would it be up my alley? Fiction isn't deceptive because it's plainly a story about a fictional place and fictional characters. It's openly made up by the writers who wrote it. Of course a rational mind should filter it accordingly. If it doesn't, that mind has not been properly trained…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 11:13 AM
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Doesn't change that it's part of a fictitious story. Why would someone assume anything in a fictitious story is true, just because it somewhat mirrors things in real life? Stories can influence how one views the world, but anyone who takes it as literal truth may have other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 11:09 AM
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Well, there are a lot of women in administrative roles. So I imagine the sudden loss of millions of said individuals would be particularly devastating to most high end corporations that rely on those individuals to keep the steady machine of of business rolling smoothly ahead. That's ignoring the women in high places of power, with long built skill sets that are integral to those positions. If you're looking at it realistically, losing half of the workforce would be crippling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 12:10 AM
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No it won't, because not all women will participate. Therefor it won't test your theory in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:29 PM
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Disagree. It's less of a hate thing and more of a pride/jealousy thing. People tend to like what's theirs to be theirs. Some get uncomfortable with reminders that something might not be exclusive to them. But not all do. Some people are poly, for example. Not for everyone, but it all comes down to you and how you view what is yours and what you view as yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:26 PM
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I think assuming these men can charm 'almost any' girl is presumptuous. The term almost any is very loose and it assumes some common quality besides charisma is the reason for this. Assuming your assumption is valid, of course. And charisma itself can vary in flavor from person to person. Likewise, most of these men likely seek in environments with women more predisposed to hooking up, which further weights the numbers. Not to mention, unless these men were extruded in a factory with matching si…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:17 PM
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So you basically learned not to take things for granted. Just because some people have a certain experience doesn't mean that is a given. Just like your qualifiers for young women aren't the end all after you've gotten together with one. Older women are rated by those who have experiences with them. Next time take the experiences of others with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:11 PM
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Of course what we see on the screen effects us. If it didn't, companies wouldn't fork out as much as they do for pithy commercials. The thing is, we can't tell exactly how it effects everyone. Not without in depth surveys across generations to track trends. Again, that's why companies like focus groups to gauge how effective their message is. Fiction can't be deceptive, however, because it is fiction. It tells a story. It can influence based on how people react to that story, but unless it state…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:05 PM
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If that's the tone you want to put on text, feel free. But that assumption says more about your lack of argument than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 04:07 AM
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I hope you're not assuming I'm a woman. Because you'd be wrong. Seems a lot of people make that mistake. And this sort of attitude is, in my opinion, an aspect of toxic masculinity. The push to be the only one who owns all of your issues. Don't ask for help, no one cares. It's what causes a lot of men to go down a bad path of isolating themselves when it comes to the issues they face in life. Self reliance is good, but to the exclusion of knowing when to reach out is bad. And a post like this pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:53 AM
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The guy seems real enough. It also seems like Encycolpedia Dramatica got wind of him, but take everything there with a huge grain of salt and make sure your spyware blockers are primed, just in case. I almost think this is a joke wiki, but part of me can’t dismiss it that easily because it’s not implausible anymore, which is a sad state of affairs. He seems to promote rape, ploygamy and spousal abuse as well. What’s strangest is how he writes this out half like it’s erotic fiction. Definitely pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:35 AM
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That post may not be misogynistic, but it is insulting. Telling someone that everything wrong in their life is their fault is extremely insulting, when laid out by someone who has never been a part of that life. The problem with TRP isn't just that it acts poorly to women, but that it insults men as well. You don't help someone deal with their problems by blaming everything on them, you do so by understanding how things got to where they are and finding workable solutions based on their needs. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:14 AM
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Something that spawned from another thread that is most certainly off topic is the topic of what qualifies one as a ‘gamer’. It’s one of those thorny issues I’ve watched being argued about time and time again on Reddit. And always found it to be a futile exercise. I was coming up in the 90s, when nerd cred and being a gamer were far less ‘accepted’ then they were before. It was something for a bunch of kids who were outsiders to feel like they were a part of something. They had their own club an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 01:41 AM
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Alright, the inevitable question. What's your definition of a gamer? What bullet points does someone have to meet to get that official designation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 11:20 AM
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Companies care to a point about who works for them. Because those people present a face for the business. Most companies don't want to be associated with this kind of behavior. Pointing it out is letting the company decide what to do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:47 PM
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That women are stupid children who will only interact with men if there is some benefit. I work amongst a variety of women of many ages, sizes and cultures. They are not the vile creatures some paint them to be. Some aren't pleasant, as most people are, but most are pleasant enough. Of course, I know the above mildly hyperbolic view is not held by all, but some profess to, be they serious or not. Regardless, I can't help but shake my head whenever that comes up in part or in whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:16 PM
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It's not about ignoring stats, it's about promoting flexibility. If you bank on only what is statistically more likely, you're inevitably going to fail. And by how much you fail depends on the skew within the scope of your region. If you acknowledge and take into account that tastes vary you'll be better able to deal at times when the statistical average does not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 07:39 PM
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What else do I need a woman for beyond sex(for lust or children) and femininity? I can get resources and build anything I want myself and do so. Women can offer plenty of things in a relationship, but sex and her emotions are the only things I cannot get myself and so are the only actual need. I actually find this quite amusing. Because in this day and age, that's not true either. You can get sex anywhere. Not just from women. And technology can provide children without direct association with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 11:26 AM
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Some people can't give others the freedom they give themselves. This seems to be your issue. This is not to say that you have to. You don't. But you should be prepared for moments like this. Question I would have is, why can't you handle her seeing sex the same way you do? That's a question you should ask yourself and try to answer honestly. Insecurity? Jealously? Views on women's roles? Or something else. Ultimately that will give you the perspective you need, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 11:21 AM
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Because, for some people, it has to be that those who have more success in life have to be bad people in some way. Whereas people like them are not. That's the only explanation that fits their world view when it comes to how things are. For whatever reason, they can't accept that good and bad people both succeed and fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 11:16 AM
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Decide what matters to you more. Getting your dick wet or your pride. Or find another path that you can live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 10:59 PM
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I think making a new term for being rude and overbearing wasn't exactly necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:32 PM
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If you think your dick can't be copied, you're likely giving yourself too much credit. Because I can be pretty sure you're not special in that regard. And that's the whole point of this. When someone expresses interest in you sight unseen, you are disposable. Period. So that goes against your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:14 PM
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So you're saying your only validating currency is your dick? You find no personal validation in personal and financial independence, hobbies, friends, etc? Because that's what it sounds like. You're speaking of people with problems. People who place too much of themselves into the act of sex, rather than the connections between people and relationships. From friends to significant others. I would suggest therapy, to be frank. I understand that physical relations is validating. And there is nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 07:36 PM
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Thing is, you're not providing anything that anyone else couldn't. If you and some men find that validating, fine I suppose. I'm not pushing an 'only you vibe' thing because I'm not an idiot. But I have more self respect than to look positively on being considered an object. Perhaps after you've actually experienced what that is like, you might change your tune.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:23 PM
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It's the same thing with men who think hey can fuck a lesbian straight. What's more ego boosting than radically changing someone's views on sex because you're so awesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:19 PM
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I suppose in your opinion a lot of guys would feel validated to be wanted as just a dick? Would you feel validated by that? I know I wouldn't because I have more self respect than wanting to be viewed as a sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:05 PM
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'Women' don't have one way they're turned on. There are different types of women. Some prefer danger, some prefer comfort, some are simple, some are high maintenance. I would approach a woman as an individual, starting with the basics of civility and proper treatment of others and figure them out as an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:26 AM
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You can think that you, at 16, would feel that way. But you're dong that with an adult's mind and point of view. You can't put yourself back into a 16 year old mind to figure out if you really would have been harmed by this or not. The issue with children and adults when it comes to sexual relationships is that children generally don't have the context to make decisions as well as someone who is older. This can vary from child to child, but the point of age of consent is to play averages in wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:20 AM
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No prefered pill, as lack of flair suggests. Yes, I have female friends. And I see the same value in them as I see with male friends. Because the people I am friendly with hold similar interests to myself, male and female. Which makes them the same. The thing about female friends has always amused me. It's undeniable that there are differences between men and women. The precise nature of those differences are another debate entirely. But like I mentioned, we share interests. That trumps gender d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:55 AM
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30s. Depends on the picture and the woman, but sure. And if I'm personally in the mood. I have my own particular preferences of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:48 AM
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I wouldn't consider it validating if, with no picture and body details, someone were sexually interested in me. Because they would be 'interested' with absolutely no idea if i were attractive or not. Which obviously suggests they'll likely give the same to anyone. There is no validation in being completely interchangeable. It actually speaks deeply towards one's disposability and lack of importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:45 AM
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Now, this is one of the reasons I think TRP is ludicrous. Have you stopped to think for a moment how strange that whole thing sounds? It assumes a level of cynical bullshit that 99% of the people out there probably don't apply to actual real life. If a woman was this odd and I knew it, I would pass her by simply because this level of cynicism is offputting. Sometimes holding something for someone is just holding something for them. There is no deeper level. And if there is, that's a mark on them…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 07:04 AM
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So wait.. Asking someone to hold something for you guys s a test? Testing what, exactly? I mean, who would want to leave a drink unattended somewhere? Sounds like a simple request to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 05:59 PM
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People are too high by up on national identity, as if the best idea for human progress is to force a snapshot of culture to remain unchanging forever with limited influence from outside forces. The best path to stagnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 05:55 PM
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Sexual attraction can indeed have an intellectual component, as much as an emotional one. And the most beautiful women can be distasteful purely because of what they believe. Even if Ann were the most attractive, her shit views would counter that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:53 AM
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Strongly disagree. I've never considered her attractive. Physically or intellectually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 11:06 PM
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No, but I wouldn't feel validated financing anyone unless I had some personal connection in which I had an emotional stake in their wellbeing. Appearance and gender mean less than personal connection and ties. Why is this a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:31 PM
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Yes, I'm aware of that standard response. It's pointing out a perceived catch 22 and by not acting against it, ensuring nothing will change. Social attitudes shift all the time. There is no reason to believe matters of attraction won't as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 10:58 PM
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The current state of sexism isn't just about disadvantage to women. Part and parcel are certain expectations of men that hinge on outmoded concepts in traditional masculinity. Pushing for equality is a way to attempt and leave behind these traditions, leading society to a time when there is less social pressure on certain gender me to be a certain way because that's how it's always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 10:37 PM
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It would be awkward and stupid, to keep it simple and plain. Fortunately it will never happen because it makes no sense. Unless you're one who thinks reality will soon take on the image of schlocky movie settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:15 AM
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You r act to that the same way I react to concepts like SMV. Neither is precise, but those who think they're a thing don't seem to care. Personally I find privilege to be something to think about, even if it is t something you can put into precise measurements. It's hard to argue that's, all things even, skin color has no effect on how people are treated on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:39 PM
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I don't really care. Though the anecdote mentioned, that girl is being a bit too intense. Her social skills aren't very well honed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:34 PM
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Due to the numerous issues with Russia during and after the election. Unless Russia's intervention in our election doesn't concern you. If not, it should.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 05:14 PM
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That's never how the law has worked in the US. Accessory to an action has always been a thing. It takes two people to make a baby. A woman might relate the brunt, but the involved man can't absolve himself of the part he played.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:30 AM
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Of course Obama publicly would brush off calls that Russia is the enemy. That's called diplomacy. But Obama wasn't fellating Putin at every opportunity either. Trump's casual attitude about Putin is concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:26 AM
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So how exactly is he draining the swamp by cramming in half of Goldman-Sachs? That's a promise he's failed at on the face of it. Not to mention the flood of establishment people and complete newbs he's decided are 'the best people'.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:20 AM
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If you're referring to the ban in 2011, you're wrong. That was a stop on processing refugee requests from Iraq due to a specific threat. Trump's ban involves multiple countries that none of the attackers who were involved in 9/11 came from. There is no specific threat and refugees in general, from what I've seen, generally aren't any more dangerous than anyone else and don't believe one has been involved in a terror attack yet. Trump's ban was also made with the obvious intent to discriminate ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:15 AM
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I'd be more convinced with more data points. Economic and geographic details, parenting style, actual numbers overall on children of single mothers correlated with the above add details which would provide more context to deepen the understanding of the issue. Just pointing at single mothers without details is shoddy because it ignores a lot of influencing factors that can be a part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:49 PM
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No, because nowhere in history will you see someone's primary accomplishment and means to effecting the world as 'getting girls'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:14 PM
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Supply and demand are reliant on one another. To say one is worse than the other is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 11:31 AM
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Instinct, balanced by reason and awareness. You can't coldly reason feelings with a great deal of success. But to throw all reason to the wind can lead you to rush headlong into obvious problems. Just as with all things in life, balance is a good path.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 11:29 AM
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So what's the point of laboriously trying to cram RL into this analogy? Outside of specific instances to help understanding when a concept is beyond the listener, analogies tend to be inadequate for convincing people of anything. Because it requires a certain mutual understanding of the analogy subject. This one is too big to be useful and the subject(mother and children) too open to interpretation to be effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:15 PM
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The level of TRP talk in the comments is actually low. A bunch of folk are talking about how racist it is to assume they're white and largely discussing the guy in the image, rather than TRP itself. It would be more appropriate to say that's how some view TRP folk. Or view some TRP folk. Unless you want to assume everyone in the thread has the exact same views, not to mention those who just lurk. Which seems illogical to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 11:24 AM
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I think you're missing the actual definition of polyamory. Monica/Hill/Bill is a bad example because poly requires knowledge and consent of all parties. Otherwise it's just cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 10:30 PM
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I think the last few weeks have been very telling when it comes to comparing bravado and experience in government officials and Whig is better to have. Say what you will about insiders, but at least they know what they're doing more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 10:16 PM
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In the general, everyone is a potential whatever you can name. Because experiences shape us. I pride myself on being a 'good person', but I can imagine extreme circumstances that could push my personal morals. To put on airs that I would never is self delusion. Though the likelihood of those circumstances happening are exceedingly low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 10:12 PM
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I've never complained about that. I'm not that sort of person. I'm deeply aware of who I am and what I want out of life. And chasing girls is not part of it. And before you assume, nor is it chasing guys. It's something a lot of guys around here could benefit from. Knowing and mastering themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 10:08 PM
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The simplicity of a steady job and having my time to myself to entertain myself as I please at any given moment. I'm no thrill seeker and tend to be a bit of a homebody. But that pleases me. I don't begrudge others their thrills, but I find it insulting when others assume if you're not like them, you're somehow broken or unhappy or missing whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:28 PM
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I've done none of that. And I don't feel my life is lacking for it. Largely due to the fact that things like that don't interest me. Not everyone finds the same things fulfilling. And judging people for not doing what you think they should is patronizing. Obviously for those who feel unfulfilled, they should do something about it. But better get to know who they are and what they like before offering advice like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 11:11 AM
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Most people don't feel women are perfect, angelic beings. The issue is the divide between how most people treat women and how TRP folk treat and think about women. It isn't just, 'this is a flawed human'. It's 'this person is an existential threat to me'. Not all TRP folk are quite like that, but I think it's notably common for that to be a leaning. If you think the issue is viewing women as human, you're missing the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:07 PM
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I find topics like this pointless. Because saying men are this way and women are this way is antithetical to my thoughts on humans in general when it comes to this context. Because people, even within the genders, are different. And that doesn't touch upon the notions of fatigue I've seen expressed by some men who do have access to a lot of casual sex. You can get too much of anything. Even something you think is good. Though I'm sure the individual tolerance for such things varies from man to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 11:55 AM
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Yes, because not every man is controlled by his desires. Those who are, obviously, can't imagine a world in which they don't have sex. Which is likely why some incels are as.. colorful as they are. But a man can find fulfillment and satisfaction without physical relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 11:37 AM
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Disagree. Handsome is obviously a compliment. Because it is literally speaking positively of someone's appearance. It may not be the kind of compliment that a man might prefer to get, but to considering it as non-complimentary is obviously wrong. Some men might prefer to be considered handsome than hot. Hot is something one could consider objectifying. A more base and, in my opinion, shallow compliment. Whereas handsome is less shallow to me. It's still shallow in it's own way because any commen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 11:35 AM
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Interesting. Good music, good flow to this one. And a much more elaborate video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HtmgrzcP1U
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 11:40 AM
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Ugh. Yeah, see if she can get out of that situation if it's causing that much of an issue. If it's college related, it could impact studies. Or jobs. Or whatever she's got going on as well. Stress is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 11:32 AM
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The hell? Even baring the dad having passed, what woman wants to have the image of some random dude fellating their dad in their head? Because that's not hot. To almost anyone except for fetishists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 11:29 AM
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It's the last remnants of an older culture that, hopefully, will slowly die out over time. The double standard between the two is just plain silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 11:06 AM
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It's arguable if common interests are required, but something lasting needs to be there. Sex and desire are not, generally. So those can start off a relationship, but without a foundation it won't last as long as it could. It could be common interests, values or long term goals. As long as it's there and both share it, it helps bind them together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 10:43 PM
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When someone feels deprived, anyone who gets more is a target for jealousy. Even if that target would likely give them all the unwanted attention in a heartbeat. As a man, I have no desire for periods of being hit on and approached by perfect strangers. Sounds like a hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 09:51 PM
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Listen and believe is pushback against a time when women's accusations we're mor often than not disbelieved. One can argue it has pushed back too Tara, but that can happen in any case. If you mean, can a guy unilaterally tape a sex act, then no. But video evidence has been used in rape cases before. It isn't used in every other sort of criminal prosecution, since it isn't always present. As to the reputation thing, I support keeping the names in a rape case discreet while its occurring, to pr ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 05:19 PM
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Your hyperbole is unneeded and incorrect. It isn't about punishing sex. The broad majority of people manage to have sex without having unwanted children every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 05:13 PM
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It is about the best interests of the child. About making sure those who have and carry a child to term take responsibility for it. Plenty of people have sex without having unwanted children, so your characterization shows your bias. Were it about punishing sex, it would punish sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 05:11 PM
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The best interests of the child are part of it as well. But that aspect is neutral to both methods because both methods provide for it. Which is why I didn't state it. It has nothing to do with punishing successful men. It's punishing hose who are irresponsible and don't own up to it. Birth control is cheap and effective. There is no reason to lack for protection. I'm not interested in an abortion debate. That's besides the point as we're talking about born children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:39 PM
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They have the same protections as I they are falsely accused of any crime. False accusations come up periodically across the spectrum of crime. I'd wager more often for other forms of crime than rape. The context doesn't change my opinion. And women who show extreme fear about rape I would generally also tell the same thing. It all comes down to being too certain that something is a clear and present danger when in all likelihood it will never happen to you. That doesn't mean you should t worry,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:36 PM
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I'd have to look into that, haven't heard of a court case about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:31 PM
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The point isn't cost efficiency, assuming your numbers are right. The point is punishing what is currently illegal. Child support is there because fathers are expected to take care of the children they make. Making it official record that it's ok, the state will pay for all your kids if you want to leave them behind, is the wrong one to make morally. The right path is not always the efficient path.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 11:16 AM
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No, women are fallible human beings, just like men. Men and women both get into relationships with people who look alright, but turn or show another side of their personality. No one is a lie detector, able to see past every facade. Some can be better at it than others, but even in that moment fondness or attraction to someone else can muddle that caution. We tend to apologize for what we like or feel close to. I'm sure if you think back, you can think of a time when you've approved of or ignore…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 11:12 AM
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It's a particular 'place' that is created by one's mind. Because you're only in it if you acknowledge it. Basically, when you desire someone, but they don't return that emotion and you can't move on from it, but remain close friends with them. That is the friendzone. It only exists in the mind of the one who has that unrequited feeling or in the minds of those who believe in such things. If one is able to get past their feelings of attraction, it doesn't exist anymore. But therein lies the diffi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 11:03 AM
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I've never once said the danger doesn't exist. Don't misrepresent my words. The problem with your fire analogy is you don't have people furiously telling each other online how horrible fire is. Most adult people understand the risks of fire and use it appropriately. They're not at all focused on their fear of it to the point of considering cutting it out of their life entirely. I suppose, except for those who might have an actual phobia, but they don't quite count because that's brain chemistry …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:58 AM
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It's not illegal. One can argue if it is appropriate and effective, but until a court case has proven otherwise, saying it's illegal is a misnomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:50 AM
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There's a difference between caution and an abundance of fear that isn't exactly appropriate in my opinion. I am fully justified in expressing my opinions. Just as everyone else is. And I wonder what recent events exactly you're referring to. It's been a while, in my recollection, since any high profile rape accusations. Outside of those who accused Trump. But we'll likely never get a resolution out of that either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 12:00 AM
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And how do you believe they are removing due process exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 11:56 PM
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I wouldn't know. All I know is I deal with a lot of women where I work and none of them are like that. Though I don't know all of them that well. But someone like that, they tend to stick out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 11:55 PM
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What exactly is being pushed for illegally?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 09:43 PM
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There's a difference between being cautious and pushing fear to levels not warranted. I don't necessarily agree with some of those who push rape fear the most either. Caution is good, but panic is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 09:40 PM
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Like I said before, you don't look for psychopaths in your life. They aren't common. So running into one is akin to getting into an accident. Because it's an unintended consequence of social interaction. A car plowing into you will do its damage irrespective of your choices in life, there is t much you can do to stop it. If you want to continue to spin this flimsy separation as a way to ignore the suggestion that this overriding fear some men carry is overblown. No one I know seeks out gold digg…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:38 PM
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Yeah, anyone who feels the need to be that preemptive is a potential problem. Fortunately high strung sorts like that don't seem to be too common.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:49 PM
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And how likely are you to run into this hypothetical psychopath? Intent on their part or not, meeting and getting involved with people like this certainly is accidental. No one intentionally seeks out unfortunate people. So the analogy stands. You're in more danger driving to work each day than you are to have some woman screw over your life. Yet I doubt you pause to consider each time you get be hind the wheel. It's like someone who is afraid of flying, when airplanes are actually pretty damn s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:43 PM
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No, that's what he thinks it should be, that is not the stated intent of the thing itself unless you have text to that fact. Don't conflate one person's opinion with the intent of those who drafted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:35 PM
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Which you state as truth without any other qualification. Which is just as effective as if I simply responded to you with, no it isn't. You really should try harder. Personally, I don't agree with the writer of the article. Whether it no the majority does(or even knows much about the law) I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:28 PM
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In the same way that those fearmongering over false rape allegations talk about women as a whole or a hivemind. It cuts both ways, really. Both sides like to generalize far too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:22 PM
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Maybe you should research it. A greater understanding of a basic topic like that might add to your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 12:06 PM
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On a one to one basis, I don't worry about it. Because someone telling you something is unimportant. What someone says is less important than what they do. Their actions will tell you who they are, their expressed beliefs apart from telling you who they think they are or who they want you to think they are matter more. IllimitableMan, for whatever qualities he has, seems of the opinion that cultural regression will make things better, by his commentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 11:21 AM
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I find your characterization amusing. Of how these societal developments were in some manner deliberate by the humans of the past, as if the great male minds came together, puzzling over the problem of tribal warfare. Which is ludicrous if you really think about it because back then there wasn't a means of mass communication that could have allowed that. You should make a graphic novel about it, I would buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 11:12 AM
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I'm not talking about my own experiences, I'm talking about the reasonable assumption one can draw that most women aren't porn stars and thus aren't a caricature of sexual promiscuity. 'Normal' by this definition is what is common, among the breadth of humanity. Unless you have some proof that the majority of women in the world are incredibly, excessively promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 11:07 AM
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Then that wouldn't be an interest that you'd worry about when looking for someone you want to commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 12:44 AM
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I'm not white. And I never commented on that woman in particular. Because I think discussing her is a distraction. She's not an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 12:42 AM
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Well, someone who likes to go to concerts and someone who just likes to listen to music at home ardent interested in the same thing. So that wouldn't really factor with what I'm talking about. Obviously two people with those different interests wouldn't bond over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 10:57 PM
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Feminism isn't a self h lo movement. It's a political movement. Political movements don't usually concern themselves with self help topics. The issue with the MRM is it doesn't do politics enough to be an effective movement. Self help is a different topic altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 10:42 PM
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That's the thing. You do what you enjoy with your partner. If you select well, you should have someone with interests similar to your own. At least, that's what I think the goal should be. Relationships are very personal. So you really should be considering how you want it to be, rather than looking to others for ideas. You know what you like more than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 10:34 PM
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I think the issue is more those who get bent out of shape over women with more modest experience, calling them sluts and swearing them off for a normal life's worth of casual experiences, as if that somehow makes them unclean any more than it would for a man with the same level of experience. Not all women are porn stars. So parading out this woman's escapades is, in my opinion, poor taste when it comes to realistically addressing the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 10:29 PM
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People being jerks predates RP. Unpleasant people expressing their unpleasant thoughts does as well. What does this have to do with RP being 'fake' or not? And who has ever assigned the word fake to it? Do you mean those who consider it wrong or unhelpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 05:51 PM
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Because we look at the world through the prism of our own experiences and expectations. Being involved in TRP implies a certain focus on sex. And according to some RP folk, men will do 'anything' for sex. Or even everything they do is for it. So of course, what these men are doing has to be for sex because that is the core of the observer's belief system.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 03:03 AM
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That was just one example quality. But in general it's a matter of being attracted to qualities you attribute to a certain class of people as opposed to individual people and their particular qualities that appeal to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 07:31 PM
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A large chest is a specific, obvious quality. If all you look at or are drawn to on a woman is her chest that's insulting, but it isn't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 07:29 PM
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Attraction is finding a woman attractive. Fetishizing involves assigning Asian women as a whole traits that they do not universally have and being attracted to them by default because of those assigned traits. Like saying they're submissive, for one example. Might be true for some, but not all. And if that's what draws you to Asian women in general, I would consider that fetishizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 05:48 PM
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I think what most people are pointing out on this is how some men fetishize Asian women. Being attracted to women of a race and fetishizing them are vastly different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 05:22 PM
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I wouldn't raise him with an eye towards influencing his development in that respect. I would do my best to raise him with a good education and what I consider to be an appropriate moral base.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 05:16 PM
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Your question is a bit skewed to start. Relationships aren't about men. They're about a man. The one you're looking for who fits with you. Relationships, outside of those who pledge to never settle, are about looking for the right person to bind your life to in some way(depending on how deeply both want to bind). at least, that's how I see it. Works the same from the other side of the fence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 11:49 AM
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Which is just a way to dress up normal human coping mechanisms as something more than what they are. Which is why I said I don't see this as surprising or noteworthy. I've seen no information that shows this as meaningfully more common in women when they are equally put through the same situations as men are or actually traced the scientific reason why. The concept of war brides itself is skewed from being useful for that because its a situation that not many men find themselves in. So using tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 11:47 AM
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Serious silly question. Have you ever called him Mr. Spaceboobs IRL? If not, I think you should. With no lead up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 09:54 PM
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The term infiltrate sounds like you consider that a negative as to good that your GF wants to know more about what you're into. I couldn't speak for numbers, but it's appropriate to human nature that we adjust to things. An overall positive trait of the species and likely why we're on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 09:52 PM
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I don't see where this is at all surprising or noteworthy. People change to adapt to their environment. And part of that is who you associate with. Friends, family, neighbors and lovers all have an impact on you. If you don't think so, you're probably wrong. It's not always quick or obvious as you go through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 09:45 PM
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If you look at it from a perspective that ignores morals, sure. Not everyone does that. Personally, I consider it shitty behavior. After all, propensity towards trickery can be considered, within a society, a heavy negative. Societies don't function if the majority of the population are predisposed to doing anything to get what they want, legal or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 07:38 PM
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Reading through this topic, I find myself even more convinced that taking up the mantle of a group is a losing game. Even when you agree in some ways with said group. All the battling over the precise nature of Feminism, which I consider ultimately pointless, distracts from actual issues and wastes time and energy better spent on nuts and bolts rather than retreading the same bias soaked ground again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:19 PM
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Reverse it and the women are 'hamstering'. Both sides have their bullshit. Seems silly to only call out one side, as if they're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:07 PM
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The first amendment never left. People just conflate it with their desired right to be free of criticism when they say something other people don't like. The first amendment has to do with the government curtailing speech. Not with the right of others to call someone an asshole or part ways with them if they don't like what they say or how they act. Or, on private forums, to decide what they do or don't want discussed there. Let's get that right first thing. Because a lot of people make that mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 05:52 PM
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Saying women do not struggle, which I have seen here, is not reality. It's more than an exaggeration and if the person that said it believes that, I consider them delusional. We can quibble about what people might mean, but for me it comes down to statements like that, whether those who use them casually believe them and how many of those sorts exist. It's not limited to RP folk, they exist across the spectrum, including in feminism. But to their credit, a lot of those folks are marked as rad fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 12:18 PM
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Only if those arguments aren't convincing. Leaning on questionable outrage seems like a crutch to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 12:13 PM
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Pretty sure the Stars have been noted before and attempt rates are higher among women, so that would fly in he face of your assertions out of hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 12:12 PM
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I would disagree. Any group that preaches absolutism should be carefully looked at. Because no group is always right. So you should always question. To follow without question is never a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:34 PM
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No, literally why men die to suicide more is their choice of methods. Women attempt it more than men. And yes, men being taught by various sources to be stoic and self reliant and to not open up or seek help is a strong contributor to make suicide attempt rates. We're not in disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:31 PM
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You did read my comment, right? Problem is, some reds believe the hyperbole. And parroting extreme views, either way, is not conducive to a proper debate. It muddies the waters and forces one side to have to make a decision on if they think the other side really believes that or is just being 'shocking'. Hyperbole can be useful at times, but TRP and the like overuse it. And don't seem inclined to balance it with nuance. So just dismissing something as hyperbole doesn't defuse the issues of repea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 12:09 PM
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No, it's that men tend to choose more immediately deadly methods of suicide than women do. Which does not allow them time to find help or for help to find them, either way. Also, you can say men aren't encouraged to find help, but that's a larger issue that traditional masculinity has it's fingers in as far as causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 11:40 AM
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Because the one that comes up most here is the belief of some men that they're entitled to sex. You don't really see women on this forum arguing they're entitled to relationships. So why would I argue a point that doesn't come up? That would imply, among women here, that's generally a given. But any ladies who think they're entitled to relationships can come forward and correct me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 11:35 AM
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Not all of them, but some of them. Because the problem with some folk who buy into this whole hog is that they believe extreme things as if they are true. Like the term, 'Women don't have to struggle for anything in life'. That's an extreme statement that isn't true. One can argue that women do have some advantages in life due to various factors. Because that is a reasonable view that can be supported by evidence. But to boldly state the first and believe it is delusional. Because everyone has s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 11:20 AM
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Can't speak for others, but when it comes to my own view on this, it's nuanced. It depends entirely on the circumstances of the situation. Because considering someone 'at fault' for how they react to someone else depends on two main factors. Whether or not the parties were honest with their wants between one another. And how both react to the break up in the end. If someone is dishonest about what they want, obviously that's a problem. And if the one rejected reacts extremely to it, that to is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 11:15 AM
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So saying that men should make women work harder for sex is Feminist indoctrination? Try again, my friend. I know the state of the world. Problem is, most guys, including TRP, accept it. I know people are different. Even within the genders they're very different. But I still think loose people are loose people, no matter their gender. If you're easy, you're easy. No matter how you do the deed. That's a personal opinion, formed from my lived experience with observing both sides o the coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:29 PM
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I'm sure many women would disagree with your ludicrously broad blanket statement. An argument can be made that women have some pro ledge within society, but no one with any sense can agree that they do t have to work for anything. Because it is logically false. So can we move on with less hyperbole?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:20 PM
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Generally it's a means of lashing out imo. In the moment or online. Because it's generally not going to change how people act or suddenly cause that girl to give you a chance. Putting down others. Especially those who act like they're better than you, which is how rejection can seem, is a means of ego protection. Dens rating others can make one feel better about themselves. There is no logical goal to it outside of that as far as I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:10 PM
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I'm not talking about commitment. I'm talking about sex. By comparison to most women, popular consensus is men are easy. Hardly worth it, by the same medic, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:03 PM
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By this, shouldn't most men be shamed since their personal standards aren't high? If we're going buy e same metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:46 AM
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Sounds to me like the woman with the problem is concerned that the guy is too good. Given bad relationships in the past. A lot of people in that situation would likely fall into the 'so what's wrong with them' trap. Expecting some terrible thing behind all the good. Which can be a mix of risk aversion and for those with lower self esteem, thinking this person is too good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:45 AM
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There is no magical formula to people staying together. Though if the focus becomes too sex heavy, that might be an issue. Anything, taken to the extreme, can harm. Even things people generally find to be positive overall. Besides that, what sort of long term synergy do you and any of your partners share? In some long term relationships I've observed, the two involved shared some shared long term goal or interest. It's not required, but I can imagine it helps. By the sound of your post, it sound…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 11:43 PM
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My statement is subjective, but made with the simple fact that movements that do something prominent to some degree tend to be known outside of their respective circle. MGTOW is a movement that very few outside of a certain set would know anything about. And I doubt you can provide a good example of something they've done as a collective that's significant. The very nature of the movement is one of passive action. Opting out. What exactly makes you think that MGTOW has anything significant to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:14 AM
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Like most abstract concepts, it's different things to different people. Some will look at it as a challenge to beat and others will see it as a wall they can't break past, so they don't try.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:21 PM
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The change is quite striking. And the adjustment to her self esteem is equally as important. As she mentioned, the deformity hit her hard in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:18 PM
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Spermjacking is neither recognized nor pronounced in any significant way. Were it so, we would see it often mentioned, but we don't. A small subset of people on the internet talk about it, but that is no evidence in my view that it is more than a minor issue, perpetrated by odd or desperate people. Honestly, I don't think MGTOW has done anything of significance. By nature it's a passive movement with an uncertain number of adherents, which has some internal strife as to what it means to be MGTOW…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:43 PM
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Calling people alpha and beta, in my view, is as effective as calling them black or white. It holds broad connotations that, while a smattering of them might be true, don't tell you who someone is. So the resistance against it lies in that it's not useful for looking at real people who don't fall into neat little categories and runs the risk of oversimplifying one's views of people and allowing prejudices to blanket a subset of men with expectations that don't apply to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 11:55 AM
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So you're suggesting that the less men want to have children, the more likely women will just take what they want to have a child? That suggests that child having will drop to some level that causes this to be a thing. It's an interesting theory, but I wouldn't put much stock in it. Because we'll have worse things to deal with should our breeding rate drop that low. That's the issue with most dire predictions like that. By the time things get that bad, 'spermjacking' will be the least of our con…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 11:42 AM
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I'm curious about one certain thing you mentioned. The bit about spermjacking. Inevitable how and in what particular circumstances. On a personal note, I think your first mistake was listening to Sandman's droning nonsense. But that's me being unfair. MGTOW is nothing that has structure. You seem to think it will generate some great future something, but how will that happen with disparate individuals and the occasional forum that may or may not stand the test of time, let alone ideological shif…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 07:23 PM
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I don't care what a lot of other men talk about most of the time. Let alone women I don't know. Strangers are inherently boring. What matters more, I think, than all the games you might try to play to sound interesting is to provide discussion that feels normal, rather than artificial. That is simply talking rather than you obviously trying to throw game. All the tricks in the world won't do a lot of good if you sound fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 07:04 PM
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Any situation that involves diminished capacity in one or both parties is socially dangerous to some degree. Especially between strangers. This is nothing new. Sex with strangers is just one instance of this truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 06:59 PM
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Tribalism is a small part for why I eschew labels. By taking one on, you're aligning with a group and taking on all the tribal expectations. Better to keep to ambiguity and let ideas speak, for good or ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 06:55 PM
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You also have to keep in mind the Phantom wasn't all beautiful on he inside. His darkness within was also what pushed her well beyond his grasp, with other factors. Though given you're talking about a versions haven't seen, I can't fully comment on it in detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:39 PM
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It is in my opinion because it has nothing to do with the story and serves as a distraction from the actual plot of the movie. Likewise I doubt the creators had that in mind as a character motivation for the character. It's reading into the character something that isn't there and, as far as we know, was never meant to be there. Thus why I see it as insulting. It's like speculating on who the baddy was fucking even though there was never a hint of anything to do with his sexuality present in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:34 PM
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Hokey, but I think the takeaway with Queenie is that she saw something in his head she liked. In my opinion, a certain goodness due to how easily he accepts that he has to be obliviated at the end movie. As to Creedence, I think sex is the last thing on his mind. Given the abuse he suffered. An insulting to his character to reach for that comparison, given the movie does nothing to allude to it. Because it doesn't factor at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 12:12 PM
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I'm referring to the Andrew Lloyd Webber version. Never heard of that version and looking at the synopsis, it's a completely different story. Edit: And even then, he was killed by the police, he was killed by his father as a mercy to his fears of being captured and treated like a freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:43 PM
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If you can, seek out a good play. Just before intermission is he chandelier scene. The show I saw actually had a huge one that swung down to close the first half. And rose up from the stage, above the audience in the beginning. Absolutely wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:39 PM
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The Phantom doesn't die in the end of the story. So any allusion to that or what the rest of his life is like after the story is pointless speculation on a fictional tale. The Phantom, choosing to let them go, rather than take his vengeance, moved by a kiss and her kindness and understanding for him, despite the horrors he's done to let go of his obsession and let them escape before he too vanishes, leaving behind his mask for the mob after him to find. He did experience her love. Not in the car…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:37 PM
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Not quite. I recommend seeing it. The story is compelling, but sadly you can't see the play with Colm Wilkinson anymore. Of those who I've seen play the Phantom, he was the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:33 PM
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I really think trying to decide which of the two male leads is 'the alpha' is to reject the nuance that makes the story compelling. Ultimately it's the Phantom's darkness more than his face that pushes Christine away. In Arafat, she states that much in the final confrontation. That his face holds no horror for her now, it's his soul where the true distortion is. I love Phantom. I've seen two versions of it and owned the soundtrack, I can recall most of the more prominent lines. Had the Phantom n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:32 PM
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Another issue I have with RP a bit and more the manosphere in general is the avarice in a lot of the talking heads involved. Make a YouTube channel and shout out the party line and you can rope in folks who want to give you money for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:05 AM
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You really, really, really need to study up on what Indian culture is when it comes to arranged marriages, then study up on what might be expected of you if you get into one. You may not like what is expected of you if you marry into a traditional family. Do your research before you try. Deeply.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:09 PM
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Probably comes down to how well that person knows the hobbies of the other. If you don't know what they like, it's hard to pick out something that fits. Or they might think what comes to mind is t good enough. That they should be able to think of something better or the one they're buying for wont like it. We are often our own worst critics. Even in gift buying. Personally, I'm bad at knowing what people like, but I'm not super social.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:54 PM
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Posts like this amuse me a bit. The hyperbolic A or B narrative almost always centers around either following RP or death as a lonely virgin. As if there is no middle ground and those who speak against TRP expect everyone to follow some strawman feminist path in dating and relationships. This post is no exception. This kind of black and white post isn't very useful I or insightful because the poster is showing they don't have or don't want to express a nuanced view of the arguments against RP. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:51 PM
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Looking at it, she's obviously talking to people that want to be in an exclusive relationship. If they do, it makes perfect sense to demand exclusivity or move on. It's just encouraging those people to keep their own wants in mind and not assume someone who is vague on commitment will remain committed. I don't see the problem. People who want something should act accordingly and be honest about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:51 PM
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I would say ascribing a belief system to someone that they don't embrace is inappropriate. A lot of belief systems overlap and marking someone with a group has the undesirable side effect of saddling them with that group's negative aspects. I hold several views which could mark me as a feminist because they are similar. But I will deny any association with movement because I am not a feminist. And, to be honest, 'claiming' something with a group name feels like an attempt to piggyback off those …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:52 PM
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I'd say no and continue on my way. I don't give my personal info to people I don't know at least somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:59 PM
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There is no legal obligation. One could make an argument for a discreet test being reasonable in certain extreme situations. But one shouldn't be surprised if, should your other half find out, there would be a certain blow to trust in the relationship due to the secrecy. If you require that secrecy, there is obviously a problem in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:55 PM
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At the most basic level, they're all communication, sure. But by and late direct action has far more impact than commenting online. How often have you seen protests hit the news and generate big public attention. Contrast that with how rarely, even with how easy it is, that online communication has hit the general public's radar. If you want to agitate for change, leaving your home is still the best method.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:43 PM
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IMO, the MRA act like their issues are more akin to greater struggles of the past exerts rial issues that are ruining men as a gender. Feminism, by and large, isn't nearly as dire as all that these days. But even then, there are numerous openly feminist groups and organizations that tackle their issues. Things the MRA needs, but aren't going to get without the same blood, sweat and tears that every other fledgling social movement had to shed to get clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:38 PM
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I'm sure some folk who consider themselves a part of the MRA do things. But as a group their impact has been negligible. Feminism has history of direct protest and public agitation to effect change, despite resistance. What few MRA activities I know of are obscure and far between. The issue is most f what you hear of the MRA, in their own words, is online, for me mostly on YouTube. And they aren't a positive face to put forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 05:22 PM
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CALM is great, but as far as I see it has nothing to do with MRA. It started as a government program in he UK and the wiki page makes no mention of the MRA. So it doesn't answer the question of what the MRA have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 05:18 PM
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Protests and rallys are action. Complaining on the Internet is not. Bringing a subject to the public eye along with the presence of many other citizens willing to spend days of their free time to join you in bringing attention to the issue is not the same. By any stretch of the imagination. Those are the tools that were used to build past social movements and help to make real change in society. It means even more in today's age when it's a matter of minutes and not days to express your feelings…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:37 PM
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That's one reason I rarely use the term. It's one of those easy to use words that can be casually dismissive without any impetus on the part of the user to back it up. And any further protestations can be brushed off as more of the same. I put it in the same category as SJW, cuck and other terms used to shut down conversation or belittle those you disagree with. If you're going to use it, have a solid basis for why you're accusing the other person of whining and back it up. Toss it out casually …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:33 PM
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True, but a medical opinion can give some direct insight into what's actually happening that you can't see just from looking at someone. How much cognition they really have, what actual pain they might be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:28 PM
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I think this is a stunning endorsement for DnR agreements for older and sick people. But without one, it's a judgement call. I can't tell if your personification of him is correct or not. As to what is best for him, a doctor or caregiver can tell you better than anyone what is best for overall dignity and comfort in a sick person's waning years. Personally, I find the whole thing questionable. The cheating, the maintenance of him for his benefits. Though in truth it is a lot of work to care for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 11:27 AM
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Actually, those comments are saying exactly that. To appreciate other parts of a woman besides her body on first interaction. One can argue if that has a place in pickup culture or not, but if someone would rather someone trying to pick them up progress past 'You're hot and make my dick hard' to something more substantial, I would argue there is a place for it in the mix. Not as the rule, but as a part of the toolbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 11:15 AM
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When it comes to promiscuity between men and women, you're focusing on the wrong qualities when judging if double standard has justification. It has more to do, imo, with whether or not there is greater harm I male or female promiscuity. That, in my opinion, would be a far better measure of 'righteousness' when it comes to if a double standard is appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:33 PM
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Messing with 'LMR' is like playing social Russian Roulette. Sure, nine times out of ten you might not flub it, but eventually you'll hit the loaded chamber and things will go wrong. If someone isn't certain on what they want, don't push it. That's how I view things. Partly because I'm not down for games. You're either into it or you're not. If you're not, figure yourself out. This goes right alongside the common wisdom that you don't mess with drunk folk. Men or women. It might be a social lubri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 11:51 AM
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You're mistaking the difference between being attracted to someone and only being drawn to that someone because they are attractive. Attraction is best when it's part of why you're drawn to someone. It might form the basis of the initial approach, but the problem is when it remains largely the only thing that you show interest in. That's when it becomes a problem. Few people would be upset that a man finds a woman attractive. Where it becomes a problem is when the only thing expressed to that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 11:37 AM
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I tend to lean liberal, but I'm open to real ideas how to fix problems. In general I believe in freedom for people to be who they are, outside of obvious harm to others and believe that a cooperative society is a stronger society. Supporting the weak and safeguarding and fortifying everyone who is a citizen. How we do that is the issue. As to my gender views, it's like my belief in freedom. People should be allowed to be who they want to be. Men and women aren't the same, but should be treated e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 05:25 PM
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I'm not sympathetic to cheaters. I can have some sympathy, but I never approve of cheating. Edit: I suppose that first sympathetic should be taken out. No approval, but some understanding, even if I think they made the wrong choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 05:15 PM
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Honestly, I'm far less concerned with that than I am with the economy, environment and global stability. But who knows. Trump might be in office, but that has been a replying cry for many liberal institutions, public and private. We'll see the results play out in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:15 PM
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Which is a junk argument because it can easily be turned back on you and no progress is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:11 PM
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I could understand why if they did. That sort of thing can get dangerous if people get too into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 05:50 PM
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You make a good point, but you do have to be careful. Pushing hard can be effective, but pushing too hard can have the opposite effect. Comes down to the kind of kid. The more rebellious, the more careful you have to be to not overextend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 05:49 PM
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That sounds like a terrible thing to me. Definitely not a selling point for my next vacation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 05:20 PM
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It changes the same way every other big problem changes. Small movements until you reach the point that something more solid happens. The same way that issues like racism have had large shifts in history. It wasn't one thing, it was many people over an extended time. I wonder what you mean by 'weak men', because I've met many men and Never had that reaction to any of them. Have you ever had that sort f deep, visceral reaction to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 05:19 PM
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Pretty much something like this. If your kid is screwing up, the best thing you can do is be a parent and make sure they know that they can't just skate by in life and hope that others will support that choice. If they really want to screw up, they can do it on their own dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 11:12 AM
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It's all in you point of view. To you it's an imposition. It's all about the past and how that matters more than the present. To me, if someone were interesting or appealing enough for me to consider it, it's about them and how I feel about them, rather than a focus on the past. But factually, cuckoldry has nothing to do with this subject. You should find a more appropriate word to describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 11:09 AM
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I think people are trying too hard to be scientific about this. A gut reaction when you find out someone has no friends or some other social oddity like that is to question why. When someone doesn't do something or doesn't have something that someone sees as normal in their life, that raises questions. And these kind of questions are rarely answered, which leaves one to speculate. And that sort of internal speculation can be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 10:11 PM
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I would definitely say that communal sharing is the ideal. Even when a relationship is led by one party, that doesn't mean it can't have strong elements of communal sharing. So even those looking to be the captain can get close to it, if their intent is to take proper care of their SO and all of their needs. But no ideal is easy. I can't speak for others, but I'm always cautiously optimistic with any relationship I get into, including friendships. You look for the end you want, but you don't lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 09:58 PM
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Hmm? Did I miss a marker while on my phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 07:30 PM
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I'm not sure if his will be effective or not. It would take a deeper understanding of local culture. But as a tourist destination, providing a positive environment is beneficial to society. Question is if this will help that. What I find more interesting is how any story like this inevitably spawns the 'criminalization of just talking to women' argument. Which speaks to, in my view, a certain sense of victimhood in some. It's not a reasonable view since, even with roomy language, it's questionab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 05:29 PM
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You are mistaken as to the meaning of cuckoldry if you think it applies to marrying a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 05:18 PM
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Chemestry and a successful shakedown of our relationship potential via courting and dating that suggest to me we're a good match in the long term. I'd also have to mesh well with the kid. And want to help with raising a child, which I do t right now. Once those factors are met, all systems go. As with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 02:35 PM
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The usual suspects. Social training and how they were brought up. Men are derided for showing weakness. Not just by society, but by other men as well. TRP does it's own part to forward these issues, though they are hardly the only ones to hold the blame. Everyone does their part to enforce what a man is supposed to be like. Everyone has a role in stepping back and freeing men from these pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 11:07 AM
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People say things all the time. Trump said he'd prosecute Hillary once he was elected. Now 'we don't care' apparently. Never take what people say they'll do as law until they actually do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 03:40 AM
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Spoilers for Krampus! So read no further if you haven't seen it yet. Still here? Sure you want to hear more? Ok, you have been warned. So, I just finished watching this movie and it's a nice little horror movie for the holidays. Good acting, great practical and special effects, a good mix of dark humor and an interesting ending. Which is what I have a question about. Final warning for those who don't want the ending spoiled. So, in the end you have the whole snow globe thing. I've thought about …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 03:34 AM
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It's less about the cat and more about men who buck the expected tropes. Most men, when they get a pet, might be expected to get a dog. Few would expect a man to get a cat for himself. Men who buck one trend, I would think, are more likely to buck others. Hopefully those that are prone to being toxic, like holding in emotion and resisting seeking help when they need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 12:44 AM
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Nothing spiritual about it. Judging by looks is primal, not deep. There is nothing deep in thinking a woman is great because she has big breasts. Or clear skin. Or pretty eyes. All of them are superficial and actual connections to personal health and generic viability as a mother without risk factors for genetic ailments is questionable. You can't reliably look at someone and tell by facial structure that they are more healthy than someone else, except for those who are obviously unhealthy or ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:45 PM
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I'm assuming they mean someone better in the sense of better looking, more successful, etc. Which would only really matter if those were the overriding factors for your relationship to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:26 PM
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No, because people from all stripes do the same thing. People are people and some people are crappy. Even those who should know better than to treat other people poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:11 PM
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If you plan your life around women, like you suggest with career trajectory, that's more of a personal problem. As to if they are worth it, that's a question without a ditto iris answer because there is no static cost or static gain. Every man has to decide if the particular woman in front of him is worth whatever effort he wants to put in. Which is a very personal decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:27 PM
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Outside of moderating one's expectations on the relationship front, find other sources of validation. Everyone has things that bring them pleasure. Focus on those for a while. Or seek to improve yourself in whatever ways you feel appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:23 PM
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But in the context of places like this they become shorthand for innate biases. When I participate here, I prefer minimal innate bias to work against what I have to say. One cannot say they don't start to gather particular biases when someone marks themselves as red or blue. Some are better at ignoring it than others, but they're always there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:19 PM
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I accept no label, but if you want to be specific I lean more bluepill. I do not consider myself a Feminist. For one, as noted, I don't like labels. That includes groups. Because I don't like being saddled with all aspects of people who I may not fully agree with. Specific to to Feminism, I think its usefulness in the first world has faded. Something smaller, inherelty more inclusive and lacking Feminism's historical baggage would be a better tool to do the smaller work needed in such places. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:36 AM
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I suppose it depends on precisely where you're saying the woman said the date isn't going well. I was assuming you meant before sex, which some might assume is implied to be a part of it. But in your example, a date happened. Where exactly is the fraud? And backing out of a date is nothing like faking a cancer diagnosis. But setting that aside, faking a cancer diagnosis is purely fraud because there is no truth to it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:31 AM
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Only if she makes it clear that it will happen and then doesn't. Because there is no explicit promise of anything without that, which tends to be what fraud is about. You promise something and don't deliver. Some will reply back that sex is implied, but it really isn't. It may be common and even expected on one side. But to not meet that personal expectation when no promise is given isn't fraud. And that kind of unexpressed expectation is a problem with men and women these days. You can't assume…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 10:41 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:49 AM
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That depends entirely on what yor average RP fellow actually thinks submissive should mean in their life. I'm sure not everyone uses it in a negative connotation, but I would be interested to see a good number give a description in their own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:42 AM
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It's good to get someone's perspective, even stained by their own bias. As long as you understand that the person's views will likely be colored by their own biases and to take it with an open mind and a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 10:56 AM
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It's kind of obvious that people don't have the same ideas of what submissive and agency mean. Which is a problem because it's hard to talk about specific terms if the two people talking about them are using separate definitions. Maybe the right idea is to start with discussion the terms themselves before the pros and cons. And get very specific. For your average RP man, what does 'submissive' mean in terms of a relationship? What does 'agency' mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 10:55 AM
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No, because marriage isn't a matter of ownership. It's a matter of two people agreeing to be together. Until such arrangements are not a mutual agreement between two people and are instead some sort of indentured servitude where there is an obligation to remain with the other party regardless of one's own wants on the matter, marriage has never been about owning one person or the other. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong and has been wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:51 AM
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Personally, I find the word too derogatory to be used in any way but but as an insult, so I prefer not to use it. Regardless of what others might say it means, the term is far too overused as a means to demean others and push sex as a negative when people have it 'too much' by the definition of other people who find something objectionable about the habits of those around them. One can discuss tangible negative aspects of someone's behavior when they do something to excess, but simply pointing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:57 PM
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Which is a solid point. Having programs to help educate people in new trades would help people to be able to move into new industries as others fade. I've heard something about programs like that being thought of or attempted in the past, but it doesn't seem like they got very far. Something that some might paint as a needless government expenditure, when in reality it's a solid investment in our people that returns dividends by making sure people have jobs they can live with and keep the flow o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:49 PM
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And the problem is there is no clear way to address these issues. They all pretty much rely on people somehow adjusting or changing their behavior. Which can't be effectively forced. Nor is it really appropriate to force people to change themselves in that way(at least, not when it comes to the morality of most nations). Social change when it comes to things like this, if I recall, tend to shift on their own, positively or negatively, in response to the conditions themselves as people slowly adj…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:40 PM
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That's, I think, the one take away from recent history. Is a lot of people feel like they're being left behind or otherwise in a dire situation. One can argue reality, but to those people what they believe is reality. Just how nuanced reality is matters no when they don't think they're being listened to. So arguing those things are largely ineffective. One has to both listen and find a middle path that can move everyone forward rather than making it US vs THEM which is usually bad for everyone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:34 PM
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Only if you ignore the great men who weren't and ignore the lack of personal context for why they made those choices. Then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 07:31 PM
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You read a lot into being a virgin by saying that. You'd have to provide far more evidence to make your opinions on Newton any more than baseless supposition. And that's not a valid response for this thread imo. Of course, that you went this route suggests you have no contemporary options to point at that are a self professed part of the Internet manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:33 PM
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I more or less agree with the ideas you lay down. People have always wanted more than they can reasonably afford. Looking at real economics, credit cards are one source of that kind of trouble. For years people have taken that freedom and sunk themselves into debt. And this has been an issue in relations between people as well. We all have our ideal desires. But we can't all have that. Usually we settle. Sometimes we get just what we want. And on occasion we find something good where we didn't e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:28 PM
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I think it could be easier than they think. Show them putting on a little, the confidently doing things. The other sex aspect could be subtle. A lingering look after they pass, a shared glance back, communicating attention and interest without being obvious bullshit. I've seen enough actually amusing commercials to think no ad agency has ideas like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:18 PM
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Helps to express that. But my opinion remains. Be a sibling. Assert yourself to strangers in your home. Address the drug potential appropriately. And be careful applying RP to everything in life. You can find patterns in anything if you look hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:10 PM
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The height of an act's validation depends on how highly its prized among other things. A key time for it to take a back-burner is when your world broadens. The more potential goals that you have set before you, the more you have to draw validation from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:16 PM
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Not sure about how men look, but I still recall some decades ago that being shaven was considered the hit thing. Not sure if it has the same appeal in general that it had back then when it was a rarer thing. But it might be that the fad is moderating. And what's rarer now, having hair, is regaining some appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:12 PM
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What have you done to help your sister improve before? I think this is why some people are questioning you. You didn't care about her development before this change you describe and only now have concern. It's something that comes off as a bit disingenuous. Not to mention some of what you describe is more or less how young, people tend to act in their rebellious phase in life. Which is often in the upper teens. They act out, they make poor choices, they think they know everything. And eventually…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:34 AM
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Add to that almost any drug related commercial. They try too hard to present normal life in commercial form and it usually looks stilted and unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:21 AM
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Cool, I'll take a look at those later.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:20 AM
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It's actually very easy. There's another crappy commercial I saw lately, the Apple Frankenstein/Christmas commercial(You heard right, if you haven't seen it yet). The commercial is stupid and I hate it, but it shows the product being used in a useful way. Which is effective, if the viewer can get past all the 'plot holes' in the commercial that distract from the message. All they have to show is a woman using the perfume or a man using the cologne, then having nice things happen. Or showing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:19 AM
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At most this is a subset of a larger problem that a lot of people who shout about it might otherwise ignore. Shaming and bullying online is a serious problem. Men and women post far too much shit talk about each other in various forums in public places. They clash and belittle one another and generally shit up the Internet together. Yet there are manly men, who choose to see themselves that way, will merely tell you to get over it. Suck it up. Grow thicker skin if you're going to be online. Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:13 AM
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Has there ever been a perfume commercial that wasn't completely useless as an actual commercial for a product s opposed to being a poor attempt at avant-garde art. To my recollection, each one has had nothing to do with the product in any substantive way outside of showing the product for a few moments within it somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 02:15 AM
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That's an interesting idea. But how exactly do you prove that? Sounds more like an opinion than something that's able to be measured and shown in a substantive way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:54 PM
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When I say those who are biologically incapable, I mean homosexual couples. Which were mentioned in the article directly. They are, for all intents and purposes, the same as an infertile couple. In so much as between themselves, they are effectively infertile. You are right about the term incel, but the article is specific about it being both those who cannot find and those who simply do not have a sexual relationship which would broaden the scope to all single people who might wish children wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:44 AM
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I'm male. And if it's well written and evocative, it can be very interesting. But that all comes down to personal taste when it comes to weaving a scene. And unlike what some say, it can be very useful within the context of a story. How two people interact can say a lot about their characters and how they mingle emotionally and physically. But it has to be written well, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:32 AM
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Incels aren't mentioned at all in the article because this isn't about Incel's in particular, but whether or not people who aren't in a meaningful relationship or biologically incapable of reproducing between themselves should have the same right to have assistance in making a family as those who are biologically infertile. Which, really, is a very good question. Personally, I don't think singles are right for this sort of thing. For homosexual couples, I think it's worth considering. Because in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:29 PM
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Abortion is not a crime, currently. Nor do I think it should be. One can argue just what impact it has on modern society, but I've never seen a rational, focused breakdown of theories on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:20 PM
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Personally, I have no issue with men doing their own thing when they feel the need. What I do have issue with is the vocal subset of MGTOW online who spout off hateful bullshit. Maybe guys who are taking a break should just do that and not bother with a label that will associate them with the likes of Sandman(the one on Youtube, not the one here) and other junk mongers who hold distinctly anti-woman points of view. That's the problem with labels and groups. They're only as 'good' as their vocal …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:22 AM
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Because no man has ever done great things for self interest unrelated to getting laid or because he actually enjoyed the act of invention or creation or for reasons of advancing humankind. If you honestly believe the above, you do many of our greatest a disservice and belittle their achievements. And you do the same for humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:15 AM
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I'm a little weary of how anytime someone wants to make a comparison they take the two far ends of the scale, as if those are the only two positions worth considering, abandoning the vast gulf of nuance between them. I actually agree with the basic idea of this thread. No one way of acting is sure fire. It comes down to how you present yourself and who you present yourself to. Acting as if that good, helpful friend would not be attractive is a fallacy, however. Being helpful and assisting someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:07 AM
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It will lead to more women in America dying due to unregulated back alley procedures. Because while it might lead to more care with birth control, there will always be unwanted children conceived. The lack of legal services won't stop them from happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:57 AM
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Of course sex is a form of validation. Both through personal pleasure, the pleasure you evoke in your partner and who your partner is. But it's far from the only form of validation. The problem is those who see it as the end all and be all of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 10:24 PM
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Makes sense for commitment phobics who want to enjoy aspects of togetherness without the responsibilities inherent. And there is a security in being able to end it in an instant with less issues and the expectations that the people in the business are vetted and held to a level of responsibility(which they may or may not as businesses are want to).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:38 PM
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I honestly don't get why people feel compelled to say 'women won't like this' when there is apparently a community involved in this. Is it so hard to accept that yes, some women find this appealing? Just as some women prefer vanilla, some prefer rough and some prefer BDSM? It's like some folk are married to the idea of one true way and have to aggressively resist even the notion that something outside of that might be enjoyed by more than a few outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:39 PM
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So does that mean the emotional damage of TRP men is a red card as well? After all, they've been through the trauma of bad relationships to the point that their view of the world has shifted. Enough to consider themselves 'unplugged'. Which is not insignificant? And yes, I am being a bit facetious. That's why I posted this here. Trauma happens. Ultimately, you can best judge a person on the whole of their personality and experiences. A single act is only a part of the picture, so on and so forth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:35 AM
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People always talk about how different male and female brains are. Which I don't disagree with. But I always wonder how much these differences really factor into the daily lives of people. The world is full of a lot of stimuli that can effect the way one interacts with the world. I've always wondered, in a precise measure, just how major or minor these differences are when it comes to how either mind processes stimuli. But I doubt that's a question that can be effectively answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:28 AM
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I think we’re getting into the weeds here. My point is men would be better served by having higher standards. You obviously think the only standards one needs are purely surface. Which is illustrating my point that your standards are painfully shallow. At least, in my opinion. For me? Her personality matters. How well we talk, how well we connect. Her appearance is part of it, sure, but I’d rather associate myself with someone who I can stand to be around and enjoy time with short of however muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:16 AM
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Basically, when they find someone they like, they show their interest in being pleasant to them, helping them out more than they might someone else, etc. Without overtly saying they want a relationship. Eventually the object of their affection will catch on or fall for someone else. Or eventually they'll get to the point of finally do or say something overt. At which point the rejection comes. Exactly how it plays out can vary, but it all comes down to an extended period of not being explicit, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:10 AM
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Of course I am. Because talking about someone's suitability as a mother and child raiser has nothing to do with what they look like. Whether or not you he around from her, outside of the base act of procreation, has no bearing on the likelihood of pregnancy or results. Your professed goal and how you determine it have no connective tissue. What you mean to say is your standard is, is she attractive. Which is a bare bones standard. You should raise your standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:37 PM
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Were I married or otherwise in a relationship, yes. I do have a roommate and I generally keep them up to date since it's polite. But not always since I'm rarely no around outside of times we're both aware of. But for someone you're close to, I would assume a part of respecting them is being open about what's going on in your life. And vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:39 PM
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I'd say the SMV value of a woman goes beyond her fertility. At least, listening to most people. And if you want to get real, beauty is skin deep. Plenty of beautiful people can have a variety of ailments or fertility issues. If fertility and health were the main thing, why wouldn't you seek out the pertinent information to ensuring you have what you're looking for rather than expecting attractiveness to tell you everything? It might not be a high chance of failure, but the risk is not insignific…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:32 PM
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So all that matters to you is her womb and health? Nothing about temperament or chemistry or shared interests or..? Because if not, you're presenting your ideas in a confusing manner. Having the only true standard of 'has healthy kids' is a pretty crappy standard. And only works if you ask her to bring a full medical work up to your first date, since knowing what ailments are common in her family line as well as a full set of info on her health would be required to truly meet that standard. It w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:26 PM
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That's not a very high standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:08 PM
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MGTOW is just as female to use from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:08 PM
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Maybe we men just need to have higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:37 PM
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Honestly, I don't know. If you take the vocal posters at face value, the conclusion would be no, not currently. Because it seems like most of them have given up entirely. But it's hard to really get a read on folk there, given you can't really look into their lives. Some say they have tried everything. But again, you can't reliably confirm it. I don't like to assume they have or haven't. As I noted in a comment in the off topic sticky, it's hard to really do much with them without some focused, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:44 AM
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The world of Incels and Forever Alones can be very troubling. Unless you're pretty centered yourself I wouldn't advise making a habit of lurking incel related subs. They can be very depressing. At times the toxic attitudes of the most vocal amongst them can make it hard to have a lot of sympathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:23 AM
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A nice guy/girl by negative connotation is someone who projects an outwardly present personality and is likely overall a decent person. When it comes to relationships, however, they expect the object of their desires to somehow figure out without overt display. And when rejected, they react with disproportionate negativity. An incel at the most basic state is simply a virgin with no prospects. A forever alone is someone, incel or not, who believes they are entirely unlovable and will be, as note…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:13 AM
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RP folk aren't the only ones here. And it's hardly a good idea to lower oneself to the standards of others. Regardless of what it seems like the others are doing, I honestly think it's always best to bring your best. Someone will appreciate it. Though giving one's best should always be first and foremost for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:30 AM
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I disagree a bit. One is ultimately responsible for their own happiness, but that doesn't mean it isn't the interest of others to have a thought towards the happiness of others. It's hard to maintain your own happiness if everyone around you has not a care for it. Though I suppose that might depends on your precise meaning of responsibility. It might be more accurate that the happiness of those close to you is worthy of being a concern, if not a flat out responsibility. In part because the happi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:57 AM
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I just suggested it. You mentioned doing research in your OP. So it stands to reason you have a measure of specific details to apply to add structure to your argument. As you have shown just now. I'm sure it does have websites devoted to it, but most people aren't going to go out and spend hours looking from scratch for it just to have a discussion on the Internet. Not to mention, as the starter of a discussion on the internet, it's appropriate to provide at least a sense of why you make claims …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:43 AM
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You're making a lot of bold statements without really backing it up with examples of your research, as it is suggested you did. I would encourage you to provide what examples lead you to this conclusion to better guide the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:20 PM
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Cheating is cheating. It is a strict violation of trust. Period. That person promised themselves to you. Then did not honor that promise. All equivocation and bullshit aside, no matter who does it it is a betrayal. There is no middle ground or mitigation imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 09:38 PM
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One more time. You're arguing attraction. Im talking about society and culture. Unless you want to get on topic with me, we're not going to get anywhere. Arguing a descriptive word doesn't change that simple fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 09:35 PM
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Objectification an provide benefits, but to look at it realistically, it can provide detriments as well. A woman prized for her sexual attributes tends to not be taken seriously in other fields. It can lead men to think they are open to being acted on, via either direct assault or verbal assault. It's focus on one aspect of who they are that degrades other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:39 PM
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In the short term. But I would think that in the long term, a DT sort may lose interest. There is no challenge, which I would think they might prefer to something so 'easy'. Which would lead to trouble with the BPD person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:31 PM
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We're talking about two separate things. You're talking about attraction. Which I am not. I am talking about social and cultural acceptance. Which you are not. You can repeat what you believe as many times as you wish, it won't change what I'm talking about. If you want to argue about attraction, feel free to make a separate comment thread and go wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:29 PM
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Makes sense that like attracts like. I would also suggest that people without deep emotions would find it hard to relate to the deep emotions of others over time. So naturally if you meet someone who has shallower emotional states, you'd connect with hem easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:52 PM
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I wasn't talking about what worked, I was talking about why it isn't accepted. What works is a different subject. It isn't accepted because of traditional expectations of masculinity, largely pushed by other men, though not exclusively so. So yes, it is a different argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:38 PM
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Why even marry? If all you want is to breed, hire a surrogate and you won't have to worry about wooing a woman, dealing with someone you don't care for since all women are good for, according to what you've written, is their womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:06 PM
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Not the argument in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:04 PM
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Yes. If anyone doesn't, outside of those with mental issues that make such things difficult, I would think a good period of soul searching is called for. Doesn't matter how far you get in life if you don't love yourself, flaws and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:35 PM
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I don't think you're very good at parody. And that aside, there is nothing to gain, in argument or in comes from your post. Though part of that is the lack of effort involved. This sort of idea is not new, especially amongst incels. So around here it won't be seen as profound and just prompt the same tired arguments. Basically, you need to go back to the drawing board.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:32 PM
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People don't understand humor. I believe most people see it as a one sided affair. That things are simply funny or not in accordance with their own point of view. Humor relies as much on the audience as the joke teller. This especially applies to 'edgy humor'. Regardless of how well crafted a joke, something that strikes a sensitive spot when it comes to one's own experience and history. So it behooves a potential comedian to carefully consider his audience or accept the likelihood of his humor …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 12:15 PM
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A few things jump out at me when it comes to your post. Firstly, this concept of 'layering' on make up and masking one's image. Generally, heavy make up makes women look worse in my opinion. The best make up is subtle, an accept rather than a 'mask'. Not sure why you choose to use the worst possible example in your post. Secondly, men are the reason that men using make up to enhance themselves is considered weird or gay. More than anything else, traditional concepts of masculinity, often pushed …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:41 AM
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So real talk. Are you being serious or just hyperbolic? The fact that I have to seriously ask that question is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:03 AM
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It's only bleak if people don't learn from the fact that we all deal in this. I'm sure I have in the past as well. But if one is thoughtful about it, they can in time realize the places where they are being generally unhelpful to their own causes by being too focused on their own problems to realize that they can't make inroads easily without cooperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:02 AM
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Yes, competitive victimhood is major component of ineractions between Feminists/'BP' and TRP/RP/men's rights/MGTOW. People feel victimized. They think it is worse for them than others. They use this as an example of why it's fine for X, Y, or Z. They use it as an excuse to hold no empathy for the other group, since they obviously have it better, don't they? In the end, it promotes tribalization, dehumanization and otherwise pushes groups apart when the best interests for both of them is to work …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:58 PM
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The one specific example you give is a girl who was heavily repressed by her parents. Are you really surprised that her choice in boys were 'bad' hence rebellious and once out from under repression, her use of that new freedom was excessive? Someone without the weight of repressive parents holding them down is a better example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 07:36 PM
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Here's my usual question. Why are you asking this particular question? It has an interesting mix of specificity and lack of detail that make me curious at your intent in posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 07:32 PM
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You don't need to bring up virtue signaling at all in that circumstance, since there is the inconsistency. Regardless of if she claims to be consistent, the evidence is there to let others make their own conclusions. Bringing up virtue signaling won't change her mind or do anything else to weaken her argument any more than it already is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 05:08 PM
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I'd actually be interested if you could find a solid example of it being used without a negative connotation. Because as far as I've seen, the only use of it is as a means to knock down someone you're debating for your perception of their intent in making an argument rather than the arguments themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:21 AM
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Virtue signaling as a term can be bent to fit almost any opinion expressed. And just because someone is virtue signaling, it doesn't mean they're wrong. Which makes it a useless observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 07:33 PM
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It sounds like a 'got mine' sentiment, which is unhelpful in general. But she's no longer alive to explain her intent, so without some other context that's a shallow interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:30 PM
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I think that's a fairer point of view. A lot of people take things too far. Though even that is kind of based on a judgement call on where that line is. Some extremes are obviously bad, others are more contingent on point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:28 PM
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I suppose so. I was more referring to the process rather than numbers. Since who you have access to for friendship depends on the pool o friendly people around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:26 PM
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No. And no I am not a typical SJW as some people would say. I'm only watching the aftermath and taking note of what is happening. Let's not be petty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:16 PM
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I would treat a friend like that. Unless it was clear they're down with that. Of course, I take cheating very seriously and I don't buy into the typical bullshit of a man always has to be masculine and show no weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:14 PM
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I never said I had tons of female friends. But I have had several over my life. Why would you worry about getting female friends? Nothing wrong with gravitating towards male friends. I wonder what your take away is. Do you think I'm suggesting you have to have female friends? All I speak out against are those who dismiss female friendship entirely as if it's incomparable with a mans lifestyle. As to desire, it's never out of your hands. A woman whose interest in you is not returned and can't kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:10 PM
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Because what point is there on focusing on what you can't change? There is a lot you can. So you do what you must.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:37 PM
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Not to me, because my observation of that term's use has come to be those who I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:31 PM
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Those aren't the only ones targeted by a very vocal segment of Trump's base. What Trump does remains to be seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:30 PM
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I find SJW to be a term used to the level of being robbed of any meaning. But you just sound like you don't like annoying people. Drop SJW and just stick with a solid description of how the people you dislike act. It will remove your argument from being weak due to association with an overused term.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:10 PM
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Little to no effect. The main issue of this election was the weakness of the Republican party and a growing sentiment of distaste for the establishment in a large section of the voting base. Add to that Hillary not being the best candidate one could hope for, the effect of Never Hillary voters and general apathy(many millions of votes less for both candidates than 2012 compared to Obama/Romney) and you have what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:35 AM
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Privilege is not what most people think it is. It is, all things equal, an event or moment in life where two people with a single difference between them would be treated differently. For example, skin color. Take two men, one white, one black. Besides that, they're indistinguishable. Same general looks, manner of dress, general mannerisms, etc. In many circumstances in life, the black man would be treated worse than the white man. And it isn't due to any other factor than his race, because like…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:31 AM
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Yes, it should be. Any sort of tampering that can profoundly effect someone's life like that should be illegal. Even if it can't be easily proven. The point is to make people decidedly aware that this kind of bullshit isn't acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:25 AM
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No, because being gay is not like he believes. But I'm not surprised that someone with that sort of opinion doesn't know a lot about homosexuality. I expect he's ignorant on a lot of things he doesn't approve of. A problem with a lot of people these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:22 AM
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No, but they do often run in similar circles. If it were just nationalism, the focus would be on external threats, not making those who are currently citizens of your country, but a different color, feel unsafe. Or focusing your ire on a particular subset of people. If you must, replace racism with bigotry. Regardless, it's a particular discrimination which is, sadly, likely to be on the rise now that white nationalists in particular feel vindicated by Trump's win.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:17 AM
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If you think so. I've noticed no appreciable difference between men and women in that regard. Though I do wonder. Perhaps the drama men bring to other men's lives is judged differently. It's not necessarily a negative disruption, thus it's ignored and not counted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:15 AM
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I don't consider them being harder to find an issue. Because I don't tend to think, 'you know i want to find a female friend today'. I just befriend people who enter my life. It seems weird to seek out friends of specific genders or any other external quality. I suppose for the four options, it depends how in control of your lusts you are. I'm the sort of person who doesn't approach women I met, even attractive ones, with instinctive lust. I'd consider that a personal problem hinging on a lack o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:13 AM
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It's called benevolent sexism. Treating women differently, but with a positive intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:27 PM
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It isn't accurate to you. It is to me. It might just be my personal experience, but I don't find friendships as difficult. Mind, I have strict boundaries when it comes to my interactions with people. I can't speak for how others do it and what their standards are, but I tend to be careful with more then casual friendships. As to your second paragraph, none of that is what I'm saying. Nor have I ever said there is no difference between the sexes. But for me, I've never thought of my female friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:20 PM
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And? I run into women with similar interests to me because I me people doing things I like to do, which they usually are as well. Same as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 11:09 PM
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Only as much as you allow to enter your life. Men can cause just as many problems. I generally avoid getting too close to anyone that's going to be overly disruptive to my life, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 11:08 PM
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Attempting to quantify the term incel seems another of those exercise in futility. For one, on here, you can't see the scope of someone's life, appearance, location and how they carry themselves IRL. Which is all of what quantifies why they are in the situation they're in. By that, any advice given is inherently weakened by the inability to precisely target the precise issue one has. And the casual stereotyping of them all as inherently physically unattractive/inherently creepy in demeanor doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 11:06 PM
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Only if you befriend someone who you have nothing in common with. I have plenty of female friends. It's no harder than with guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 08:09 PM
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That's not what organic means. You don't pursue women as friends as a path relationships. You have female friends. And sometimes feelings change. Not because you sought it, but because there was chemistry that developed on its own and you both noticed it. The problem with those guys is they don't understand actual chemistry. Or they think their feelings mean she must or should feel the same way. Or they mistake friendship for something else. And they push the blame for that on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 08:08 PM
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Would I choose not to have that level of inability to control my own reactions, definitely. Being that out of control emotionally is a bad sign. Lose attraction altogether, no. Attraction is perfectly fine. The issue is when your emotions rule you, rather than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 03:51 PM
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I think the issue here is a lot of people assume this is being promoted as a primary dating strategy. Which would be silly. It's more a reminder to not ignore those close to you, who can become more if things fall into place a certain way. No one should primarily try to date friends. But dismissing friendship as an additional organic path to something more is foolish. Because it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 03:26 PM
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Like clockwork the accusations of autism, meant or not, flow in. Ignorant answers or jokes. People have issues when someone does not respond to them. People expect they will be answered when the communicate with someone. But if that person gets inundated, one message amongst the many has no more importance than the others. To the person reaching out, they are singular. Only takes a moment to reply, doesn't it? Yet those moments add up during someone's downtime. Does one want to wade into message…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 05:26 PM
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This is completely random, but I had the urge to write it and I needed a place to post it. So bear with me a moment if you would. A lot of people are upset right now. A lot of them are scared. They’ve watched Trump over the entirety of this election, they’ve listened to his words and taken him at face value as he presented himself. He’s said a lot over the course of the election that can be considered bigoted and racist. That can be considered hateful. And he has a history of the same, as well a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 11:47 AM
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I think suggestions that TRP is cult like distract from better, more solid criticisms against it. A lot of things could be seen to have cult markers associated with them. But it's far too hyperbolic and prone to being turned back on the arguer with no great benefit to it. Not saying you're right or wrong, but I don't think this is the hill to die on, to coin a phrase, in arguing against TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 02:38 PM
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Maybe you should elaborate on who said things are greener in the UK? Because I have no context for your upset right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:21 AM
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You're only just realizing this? You can say the same for a lot of words. Like Racist, Cuck, SJW, etc. Words that people can lash out at other people who they don't like. The words have meaning and use, but the problem with people is they tend to play fast and lose with words that can be weaponized like this. It doesn't mean the world is bad or has no meaning, it just mean we're shit at using it. It has nothing to do with Feminism and everything to do with human nature. Because every ideology ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:14 AM
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Guilt by association. People assume, because you support him, you support everything about him that they find repugnant. The fact that some Trump supporters are questionable people doesn't help that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:55 AM
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So we have the next episode of someone's shitty opinions confirm all women are horrible. According to some comments. She's an idiot. If their fans want to chip in to support a band they like, there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, this at least ensures your money goes directly to the artist, rather than how buying CDs rarely does. Someone beating another lesser known with the fact they want to give their fans a path to show their support is shitty, but it has less to do with men and women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 09:52 PM
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And, following the graphic novel they band together and beat him. As tends to be the way with authoritarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 09:44 PM
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If you believe Trump being a blowhard will cow nations, you might want to rethink that. We aren't the only ones with nukes. And no scenario where they're used is a win for anyone these days. And even considering them as part of the deal is taking us back to times no one wants to revisit. The times of useless duck and cover drills at schools and other disturbing things. Also, that you compare him to Negan in a positive way makes me wonder if you really believe this or are just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:38 PM
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One can dislike career politicians without voting in someone markedly unqualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 05:09 PM
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I'm more concerned with his love affair with Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 05:05 PM
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I'll be voting for Clinton. Largely because she's the one who I believe is best suited for the office. The third party candidates don't match me and Trump is incredibly short on qualifications in addition to being generally repugnant in attitude and how much he buys into various conspiracy theories. He has no policy experience, no appropriate diplomatic experience, no discipline, seems to have no desire to properly prepare to present his best to the American people which is deeply disrespectful …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 02:37 PM
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You should vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 02:31 PM
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I think you're far too insulting to this sub to be taken seriously by anyone on it. That, combined with your lack of participation outside of smug and largely useless comments makes me wonder why you're here. Back on topic, I think you using dating websites as serious statistical confirmation of anything as foolish. Ignoring the fact that the pool of people on a dating website is unlikely to match the general population, consider that these ratings are being made based on profiles which include …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 11:30 AM
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I'm answering a specific situation. I know some women, in full grasp of their faculties, make bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:45 PM
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One would assume that the drink plays a significant role in her actions. And whatever personal issues might have lead towards that drinking. There doesn't seem to be anything laudable, healthy or instructive about that anecdote except don't be those two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:36 PM
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You reconcile it the same way you reconcile anyone who makes good even if you honk they don't deserve it. You accept that fairness is not a given in life and you focus on getting what you want in a manner consistent with your moral character. Strike notions of being a good anything from your mind. Look within yourself, decide who you are and who you want to be, then be that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 02:33 PM
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He's a good looking kid, but he needs confidence. That's pretty much all he needs. Financial instability doesn't help that, though I wonder if his lack of confidence is what plays into his lack of a job as well. Depending on what kind of jobs he goes for, acting like he acts is going to be a negative. Edit: Deeper into the video, I'm honestly getting annoyed with him. He has an excuse for everything. He needs to sit and have a good, long hard think about solutions, rather than what all the probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:21 AM
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That really depends on too many other factors to answer. I'm not the sort who thinks promiscuousness itself is a deal breaker. Or finds it viscerally disgusting. It's a factor in someone's overall personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:13 AM
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Why do some RP folk associate all Feminists with the worst of them? Because guilt by association is something that effects everyone. It's easier to assume the worst. Which is a concept TRP should understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:58 PM
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Sounds like dad was the best role model, so I could understand not wanting my own son to follow in his footsteps. But as with anything else, too much is too much. Good luck keeping your feet and thanks for being candid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:43 PM
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Feminists are hardly the only voice that talks about gamers and that narrative is the least I'm concerned with. And a sense of outrage isn't the worst thing to have in moderation. A strong sense of self and the willingness to buck expectations is what changes minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:41 PM
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I was an only child myself. Dad was out of the picture before I remember, but I've seen him a few times in memory. Don't know a lot about him, never felt a need to and mother didn't speak much of him positively or negatively. So no clue how things went between them. Family on my mothers side I know better, obviously. Generally alright folks. But I've never been big on family, so I haven't gone visiting in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 04:53 PM
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My mother didn't shelter me as much. Saw a few unfortunate movies when I was younger, had an interest in horror and sci fi. Snuck porn before I could buy it legally, etc. I'm all for keeping kids safe, but it seems like this sort of thing has gone too far in one direction and folk need to relax and let kids be kids. Boys and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 04:35 PM
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Of course gender is something you are. It's just not what society has pressured people to think it is. Someone who is Trans can no more not be Trans and be happy than you could be a woman and be happy. We are who we are, we're just coming to find that who we are is not just simple binary. Beyond that, what one chooses to be can matter when it comes to offense. I'm a gamer. I could choose not to be one, but when gamers are derided, when it bothers me, my answer isn't to run away and change what I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 04:25 PM
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