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Happy new year!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:42 AM
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Flat stomach, attractive face, not a flat ass, tits can be any size, no tattoos, no scars/deformities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 06:19 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 03:10 AM
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Look. It doesn't baffle me that that post disgusts you. In fact, many people would be disgusted by it. However, we are here to discuss, and a mature discussion requires that we think about things rationally. If you want to let your emotions overwhelm you, that is your right, but you shouldn't try to take part in a discussion if you have no intention of being analytical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:57 AM
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So people can work to be less successful, but cannot work to be more successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:10 PM
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Doesn't matter the motive. Is it possible in your mind or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:25 AM
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Muscles are your body-face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 09:22 PM
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Can a person learn to be unlikeable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 07:02 PM
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This. I don't bother trying to tell if chicks are wearing makeup. I just assume that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:26 AM
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being a neo nazi, Islamic terrorist, or a pedophile One of these things is not like the others
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 11:36 PM
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To add onto this. When a girl asks me out, I consider it to be her asking me to be her captain, that I would lead from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 02:00 AM
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We'll see how other terpers respond but I have no problem with a girl asking a guy out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 10:38 PM
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What do you believe is the purpose of beauty?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 08:42 PM
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What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:13 PM
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It's definitely an interesting perspective. Since you've added some questions to your OP, I'll answer those from my perspective. 1) I'm assuming you mean "wrong" as in the opposite of "right." This is relative. Does he think he did anything wrong? Probably not. Do you think he did anything wrong? You tell me. Do I think he did anything wrong? No. 2) Yes, he is most certainly alpha. 3) Maybe, but why is it in his interest to do so? 4) I'm a male. If I were in your position, I would not have agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 10:32 PM
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So what's your point here? To me this appears to be a story about a guy who wanted something from you, convinced you to give it to him, and then left. If anything, this suggests that TRP is successful in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:07 PM
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Is it so hard to grasp that it's simply about getting our dicks wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 12:15 PM
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Your comment about Cosby interests me. For me, the increasingly ludicrous numbers of women making the same claim about him suggests that he is likely innocent, and a group of women realized that it might benefit them to cry rape after they saw the attention the first few accusations received. That said, I honestly have no idea if he's a criminal and don't want to assume too much. We'll find out the truth when he goes on trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 02:22 AM
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Literally what TRP teaches as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 12:00 PM
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Just because it's insulting doesn't mean it's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 09:00 PM
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So saying "fuck your mom" really doesn't cause people to fuck moms. Could it be that the same logic applies to rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:46 PM
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We must live in very different places because in my community the exact opposite is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 01:37 PM
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This. I started lifting because redpill told me it was absolutely critical to getting girls. Now I lift for myself, but without the sexual motivation I would've never gotten started.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 12:11 PM
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I chuckled
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 08:28 PM
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we'd be incapable of constructing sentences In what world are teenagers not capable of constructing sentences?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:14 PM
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High school. I'm a junior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 04:46 PM
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I doubt not getting me phased her at all. She's one of the prettiest girls in my grade and can get guys to do whatever she wants for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 12:21 PM
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I'm well aware. But just like poor guy-game doesn't work on girls, poor girl-game doesn't work on guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 02:58 AM
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Some girls do think that advertising their sexual experience is an effective strategy. I once had a girl try to flirt with me by telling me that she was very experienced with giving head. I stopped talking to her after that because I really didn't need to think about multiple dicks having been in her mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 02:39 AM
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I wouldn't just read TRP and decide it's gospel no matter how much it seems to make sense given my personal experiences. I believe that it must be tested against opposing views and remain rational to be a good viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:58 PM
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The very point of debating is to convince someone of your opinion or viewpoint This is true, but I think you've made it too specific. I can't speak for other terpers on this sub, but I don't come here to convince you of the rationality of my views, I come here to convince myself. I debate with bloopers in the hopes that they will challenge RP logic. If they cannot refute the practicality and effectiveness of RP, then I'm more secure in my beliefs. If they can, then I need to reevaluate how I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:14 PM
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For the incel who cannot improve in any way (this person would be incredibly rare and probably paralyzed or some awful shit to prevent normal methods from working), the other two options, prostitution and death, are now the on,y ways to stop being an incel. If I were in that position, I would probably kill myself. You're trying to do your community a service, right? Nope. I couldn't care less about advertising for TRP. I'm on this sub to test if TRP theory stands up to scrutiny, not to force my …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 06:29 PM
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Here's the thing about incels: they are incels because nobody cares about them. Society will never be able to make people care about incels. It's different from how society views homeless people because most people have experienced being laid off or general difficulty finding a job before and will therefore be able to empathize (to a certain extent) with the homeless. These people will know that sometimes stuff happens to you that isn't your fault in the business world, and you get the short end…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 12:50 PM
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This just in! Having to bend over to tie your shoe now counts as being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 09:57 PM
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but still propagates a beta bus lifestyle for them What would you consider to be an alpha lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 10:26 PM
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Yo, I'm also 16, been a member of this sub for a while now. PM me if you want to chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:58 PM
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It helps men economically. Women are less of a drain on the system since they contribute to the production of resources. They pay more taxes. When women have their own money they also buy more. Employers have a wider range of talent to choose from. Women have been part of the work force for more than a century. I'm not sure what forcing men to change how they look at women has to do with this. Also some men just like having the company of women in the workforce. Not any straight men that I know …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:55 PM
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So what's the plan to achieve this if it's directly harmful to men? It seems to me like it would be hard to convince an entire half of the population to do something that isn't beneficial to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 11:07 AM
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How does it benefit men to value women through status and resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 10:41 AM
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How do you think women would like to be valued?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 12:23 AM
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I love metal concerts, which are also overcrowded and have loud music, but I do hate night clubs. I can't quite put my finger on the difference in atmosphere, but one is enticing and the other is disgusting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:28 PM
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Why is it detrimental to women to be seen as sex objects?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:24 PM
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5th month of Stronglifts 5x5 checking in. Currently at about 170 pounds and bulking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:18 PM
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I was going to say something similar, but you worded it much better than I would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:29 PM
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I liked most of your points, but I'm still confused about affirmative action. What's the rationale for that being a good thing when you admit it's obviously discriminatory?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:07 AM
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I'm just not a fan of any kind of alimony at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 07:59 PM
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I'd say that the man is divorce raping her in this case. The point is, men may one day be equally able to divorce rape women as women are able to divorce rape men. The other point is that women seem to be angered by that possibility, but have no problem with their ability to divorce rape men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 07:43 PM
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If there's a way to do this effectively, it would make an excellent experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:30 PM
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Well that's why I spend time here instead of the main redpill sub. I read the sidebar stuff and quickly transitioned to PPD because I want to see if RP ideas can hold up logically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:50 PM
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Fair point for the flair, but why shouldn't I be able to read and discuss what I want to? This sub isn't my life, I just come here for enjoyment when I'm not working on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:35 PM
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RP. I really enjoy adding and commenting on PPD. It's by far the most rational sub I've encountered thus far.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:33 PM
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Possibly the youngest here at 16
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 11:02 AM
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That's not the point tho. The purpose of AWALT and AMALT are to be safe rather than sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 04:56 PM
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I think it's a perfectly logical thing to view all men as rapists until proven otherwise. AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 02:38 PM
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What exactly does "pansexual" mean? Is it a different term for bisexual or something else entirely?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:31 PM
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Might it be that conservatives use a critical-empirical approach to position themselves above others while progressives use myths of the possibility of everyone living happily to feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 10:22 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:26 PM
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Because the number of naturally dominant women is so minuscule that it's not even worth addressing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 10:53 AM
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I never claimed that I myself am moral. I was just pointing out that under the definition of what makes something immoral being used in this conversation, redpill tactics are not immoral. Everyone has their own view of morality, so you can view TRP as immoral if you wish, but don't assume everyone thinks the same way you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 10:46 AM
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Is it disrespectful towards a woman if she says I have to go on a date with her in order to then have sex and I respond by saying that either we can have sex with no date or she will have to find another man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 01:24 AM
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But when I do that, women don't want to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 01:22 AM
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I'm pretty sure that most redpillers, myself included, are going to disagree with your statement about what we believe. I agree that women are human and can be both cruel and kind. However, after learning redpill theory, I believe that I'm much better able to determine which chick is which.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 01:21 AM
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Great minds
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 09:46 PM
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choosing to act in behaviors with the purpose to hurt someone is immoral Redpillers do not employ redpill tactics with the purpose to hurt women, they employ them to personally gain (sometimes at the expense of women's feelings). Under your definition, redpill strategy is not immoral, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:28 PM
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INTJ
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:25 PM
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is inherently negative because it presupposes a tendency for all women to be a certain way So if I presupposed that all women are nice people, would that also be negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:06 PM
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seem like absolute torture Have you ever been in an RP relationship? If not, what evidence do you have to make this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 11:25 AM
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I can't speak for other redpillers, but my girlfriend isn't uneasy with my views. Out of curiosity, what parts of ourselves do we criticize that aren't issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 11:22 AM
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Seductiveness implies experience, which is not attractive to me. I enjoy teaching my partners about sex, e.g. my current girl was a virgin when I met her. There are certainly older women who are still extremely physically attractive, but they are outliers, and generally come with all sorts of baggage from previous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 02:40 AM
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I don't wallow. I'm here to discuss these issues to achieve a better understanding because I don't want to follow redpill ideology without regularly testing its stability. Why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 02:35 AM
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You've gone from calling the others' views moronic, which definitely implies a lack of intelligence, to calling them wrong, which is a moral argument. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 07:25 PM
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So... was Plato a moron then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 10:59 AM
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Not saying it was a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 10:32 AM
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Damn, 13 killed and 20 injured. He knew what he was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:34 PM
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Both are business lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:34 AM
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It reflects on you as well, if you prefer to think of it that way, in terms of your own ultimate worth One of the more eloquently worded ad hominems I've received on this sub. I might print it out and hang it on my wall. A utilitarian/usefulness view of the worth of humans is an exceptionally negative worldview First of all, utilitarianism does place intrinsic value on human life, and turns that into a numbers game, i.e. saving 5 people at the expense of one is the utilitarian choice because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:34 PM
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Okay, I'm assuming that that statement is an axiom to you... in which case, how does it benefit one to believe that all people have intrinsic value?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:45 PM
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If other people don't treat you as if you have value, how would you know you had value?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:16 PM
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relationships or sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 12:03 PM
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I'd rather be angry and know exactly why than be angry and not understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 03:21 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong... but weren't you just dating a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 03:17 AM
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I think abortion is fine, but I also think that it is a form of killing and I acknowledge it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:49 AM
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Can confirm, same happened to me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:33 PM
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Can confirm, same happened to me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:33 PM
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Well if it doesn't bother him why should he care if others are bothered by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:34 PM
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Red Lifting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:45 PM
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My point is that nowhere before TRP had I heard that lifting was essential.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 10:50 AM
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I have clinical depression. Was on meds for a while. I would argue that TRP helped with my mental illness for one reason: lifting. Before TRP I obviously didn't lift. I knew having a good body was attractive but I honestly believed that it was pretty low on women's' priority list. TRP basically told me that I will have no success whatsoever if I didn't lift, and that shocked me into action. Since then, I've found that lifting has really altered the way I think in a positive way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 10:45 AM
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Ayyyy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 03:41 PM
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Why do we care? I refer to myself as a terper or twerp on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 01:59 PM
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Why can't she exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 01:55 PM
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I don't know man, I'm 16. And that statement rings true for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 10:24 PM
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The woman described sounds very desirable to me. The difference is I don't believe that I necessarily deserve her for just being me. I use the Red Pill to improve myself to the point where the described woman desires to submit to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 11:31 AM
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Race is a social construct, gender is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 01:28 PM
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They are capable, but us terpers believe that they are not inclined to act in those ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 02:14 PM
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What country do you live in? I can say with confidence that cultural coercion does not exist in America. Pressure, sure, but nobody here is going to be thrown in jail or executed for not following gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 02:11 PM
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It demonstrates interest. I find it much easier to attract women if I objectify them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 05:51 AM
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My parents told me that it didn't matter in the long term so I ignored it basically until high school. That turned out to be a huge mistake because I only made friends with other losers and now I have to work doubly hard to be seen as a viable associate for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 07:33 PM
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We shouldn't objectify Why not? How does it benefit me to not objectify women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:24 PM
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If she values marriage more than my leadership, she can leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 03:44 PM
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Could you explain how you got to that topic from my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:46 PM
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Assuming that is true... why should I care about your problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 04:48 PM
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Yeah but people respond to incentives. What incentive is there for a straight, white, male like myself to change my opinions on any of these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:39 PM
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Maybe they have preferences that are different than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:32 PM
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Good point. I don't think feminism is the root, but biology. Men are naturally stronger than women, and so it's also natural for people to be surprised and disgusted when men are abused by women. I think that it's a general human viewpoint that will never change. It doesn't really affect me, as I've never been abused by either a man or woman. I don't really care about what the government does about it as long as it doesn't restrict my freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 05:16 PM
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16 Male Student U.S.A. I have a girlfriend Redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 02:28 PM
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16 Male, N. America, 6/10 (I have a lot of bulking to do) Redpill In order to achieve the highest possible degree of happiness in my life, I must first understand what is necessary to achieve this goal and then follow through unashamedly. I believe TRP teachings aid me in learning how to maximize happiness. I don't understand why people would ever put someone else's comfort above their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:12 AM
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My gf has no idea how to apply makeup correctly because she never learned. Because of this, I can be sure that she's good looking all the time and she doesn't have to doll up when we go out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:59 PM
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One part of TRP theory is that women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of commitment. With this in mind, it makes sense to base a girl's n count on her number of sexual partners and a guy's on the number of women he's committed to. Within that context, I have a very low n count. To be fair, I'm a monogamous guy and don't really go for casual sex either. So my sexual n count is currently equal to my commitment n count
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:00 PM
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Not for flings. But I recently got into an LTR and you better believe I made sure she was a virgin first. High partner counts simply demonstrate lack of self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 08:57 PM
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As a terper, I'm extremely impressed with this. Very machiavellian.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 12:05 AM
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I was diagnosed with depression
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 11:09 AM
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Yeah there's honestly not that much to teach in sex ed. My experience as a high school student of today, is that every year we have a one-day review of the structure of reproductive organs, and then five days of scare tactics to stop us from having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 10:38 AM
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I disagree. To earn my respect, someone has to do things that I think are deserving of respect. To earn my hatred, that person would have to do things that inspire hatred in me. I respect or hate people based on their actions, not their gender, or anything that they can't control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 10:35 AM
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I assume you mean that I wouldn't say faggot? The answer is yes, if I were put in physical danger from saying a word, I wouldn't say it for practical reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 10:11 AM
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Nah. I'm white and don't want to get beat up. Maybe if I'm singing along to rap music by myself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:15 PM
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No one deserves anything. People only get what they are strong enough to take
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:13 PM
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Kek'd
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:09 PM
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Fascinating. I use the term faggot all the time and I'm definitely not gay. I guess that makes me a homophobe. Who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:04 PM
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I care too much about women to want them to be in harm's way in the military. Secondly, women are not only good for making babies, but they're a hell of a lot better at it than men, and it is a very important part of their value to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:51 PM
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Don't have a feminist mom, but my dad is exactly as you describe. I imagine that it's a pretty common experience in the west today
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:45 PM
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"If that doesn't work, move on." So let me get this straight... I shouldn't be a selfish asshole because "it's not cool." Therefore if I want to preserve my "coolness" (at least as you perceive it), I should act as a "decent" person. If this strategy isn't fulfilling for me, I'm out of luck, because I should be "decent" whether it's effective or not. What does "move on" mean in this context where you've already condemned changing my behavior to more effective methods to achieve my goals? If it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:36 AM
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If we can achieve equality under the law by either a) creating more programs, or b) removing programs, Isn't option b the simpler, more cost-effective, and generally easier route!?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:51 PM
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Because people naturally dislike weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:40 PM
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Back in the day, a lot of guys did learn from their Dads what RSD teaches today. RSD arose out of guys needing lessons on things that they hadn't learned from a good father figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:32 PM
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Fair point. Another reason to like skinny chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:42 PM
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Playfulness, i.e. When a chick pounces on you and giggles and goofs around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:43 PM
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The difference is that beta bucks by itself is not legally supported. The only thing a woman needs for bb is a man wiling to blindly participate. A man has a choice as to whether he becomes a bb as opposed to the examples you listed, which are forced on the man by the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:11 AM
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Women taking advantage of beta bucks is totally cool. I would be angry if a woman did it to me. Not at the woman, but at myself, for allowing it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:55 AM
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I'll give you this one. Definitely an example of hamstering. I do think, however, that the vast majority of bloopers do not understand RP philosophy or even try to. For example, I would be surprised if many bloopers actually understood the idea that the information given in TRP is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:53 AM
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Would you please link an example of a situation that went down like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 07:30 PM
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Yeah, as you can see I went through a big EU phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 12:02 PM
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He could be referring to the Sith species, the Old Sith Empire, or Darth Krayt's Regime instead of the Bane Line.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 10:06 PM
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This is why I come here as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 10:03 PM
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Doing something for the sake of it is different than doing something in the hope that the actions will be reciprocated towards oneself. It can't be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 02:26 PM
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What's worse than being called subhuman? The term subhuman was used to justify slavery and torture for many years, it seems like the worst of the worst to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:38 AM
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(1) All people can be used, whether we wish to do so is a different story. (2) Women are not objects, but are beings that react in generally similar ways of to certain stimuli, to treat them like objects would be to not take into account how their minds work. If you believe that this is gross, why? (3) For many men, virginity is an attractive quality, just as height is to many women. (4) Virgins can do all these things, and I would want to find out about these possibilities when analyzing a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 09:32 PM
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You're not answering his question, and instead you're resorting to shaming tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 09:25 PM
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Okay there's a huge difference between redpillers explicitly saying something vs. you interpreting what we say to mean something else. While I don't think any redpillers actually view women as subhuman, even if they did, they should be allowed to discuss that view on a debate forum. Why do you believe you have the right to set the base premises for every individual who participates in this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:44 PM
1

I agree with everything you said here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 05:07 PM
3

Ad hominem aside, you haven't answered my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 03:08 PM
1

It's not hard. It just seems counterintuitive to say that I will be successful by not desiring success. What incentive is there for me to be nice to women that I'm attracted to then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 02:52 PM
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Why does it matter so much to you what other guys do? If you're trying to lessen suffering in the world, there are much greater problems to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 11:57 PM
5

Okay so let's run with this. If we are narcissistic, what then? Are you suggesting that this theory is ground to ban TRP or that we should all feel bad and quit the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 10:32 PM
1

"So boys and men just can't be nice to people because they're good human beings?" So unless I do things with no intention of success I don't deserve success?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 10:28 PM
3

This is true. Ugly people all around have shit lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 12:14 AM
5

Give the men's rights movement about a decade
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 09:16 PM
2

INTJ baby
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 03:07 AM
1

I don't really have any abusive fantasies that I can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:23 AM
2

Is it relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:33 PM
3

All my fantasies (even the really sick ones) are fantasies I would play out in real life given the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:18 PM
1

Fair enough. Maybe it's more realistic to say that TRP is trying to better understand hard truths. We base most of our knowledge on experience. It's completely possible that your experiences don't match ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 06:04 PM
3

I'd be happy to hear your reasoning as to why you believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:55 AM
4

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 12:47 AM
6

Might as well just kill me off then I guess. I'm intent on maximizing my own happiness, so if I'm what's in the way of your perfect world, start writing the proscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:22 PM
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It may very well be a self-fulfilling prophecy. However, even if it is, TRP has led to more happiness in my life than I had previously experienced. In light of that, doesn't it make sense to continue following this strategy until a better one presents itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:46 PM
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I don't think men like us describing them as generally boneheaded and needy either. Our observations of both sexes focus on hard truths. The fact that the common instincts of people are morally unpleasant to you doesn't show in any way that they are untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:26 PM
2

I'm with OP on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:54 AM
1

I personally don't want it to be widespread because that would create more competition for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 08:28 PM
2

Can you give me an example of a relationship that isn't transactional?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 11:52 AM
0

Thanks! I like to think I do, but seeing the general focus on curvy girls in this thread, I guess my tastes aren't as common for terpers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 12:56 AM
4

Honestly still waiting to meet a chick who likes metal. I'm gonna have to start going to concerts when I get to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 09:25 PM
1

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 05:26 PM
4

http://img.whenwomentalks.com/2014/03/11/diobdr.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 05:23 PM
1

There's a difference in how women naturally are vs. how they act. As Rome broke down, it began to exert less control socially, leading to more promiscuity and other natural feminine behaviors that an effective society will keep in check in much the same way that it keeps the naturally aggressive urges of men in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 05:12 PM
3

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 06:01 PM
5

So what do you suggest, just give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 01:59 PM
1

I suggest watching the documentary "Demographic Winter"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 11:20 AM
3

The breakdown of gender roles was a symptom of a larger decline, not a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 11:15 AM
7

This is the goal to which I strive when I lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 11:21 PM
4

It's already been said elsewhere in this thread, but the term child is not inherently negative. Kids are joyful and fun to be around, women are too. The downside is that they are sometimes irrational or unaware of their desires. It's not an insult to women, it's just an attempt and hypothesis to understand their nature. If you dispute this hypothesis, by all means supply us with information that goes against it and contribute to the thread instead of just throwing basic insults at TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 07:44 PM
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"Is that that difficult" You want his default state to be in line with your view of morality. A very human reaction. However, you might benefit from the realization that people think in different ways and in his mind, there's obviously more benefit in pursuing you than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 07:38 PM
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But what incentive is there for me to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 07:31 PM
5

It's not more sacred. I just care about it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 05:19 PM
9

I'll definitely give you that it's disrespectful to his girlfriend. But as someone who isn't really moral, I'm leaving that up to him and his girl to figure out. If I were him, I would definitely feel shitty about cheating on my girl, but I wouldn't feel bad about hitting on a girl in a relationship if I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 03:40 PM
3

"Close male friend that wouldn't try to get in my pants" Gay men exist. If that's not what you're looking for, you have a tiny possibility of meeting an asexual. Other than that, you're out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 03:29 PM
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This, it's up to you if you consider this behavior "bad," OP, but this is how men will view you up until you become an old hag. We are programmed this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 03:27 PM
5

You can have a power imbalance as well as cooperation and trust. These do not cancel each other out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 01:07 AM
3

"Take any person from history" The vast majority of successful rulers throughout history embodied TRP teaching to the point of harems of plates. "If you don't want offspring...? What then?" I don't want offspring personally, but I want sex. TRP teaches me how to get sex. Finally, yes, I wasn't always as dominant as I currently am, but this doesn't mean that I'm faking it. You can completely change who you are through perserverance, dedication, and most importantly lifting. "When I say someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 01:05 AM
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"Ask any random person what they think" Why is a random person's assessment of how I live my life valuable to me? I imagine asking a random person what they thought of Socrates during his lifetime would elicit a negative response as opposed to the overwhelmingly positive response that modern scholars project. People tend to agree with whatever social norms are floating around at the time, and these change over time. The fact that they are normal doesn't make them right. "Taking them out of the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 09:32 PM
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"Someone who treats others poorly to get sex" This then leads into a discussion of what is considered poor treatment. Secondly, I don't understand why so many people feel the need to shit on TRP. I'm sure it's possible for some people to find good relationships without TRP, but for many of us TRP works better than anything else we've come across. How can you convince someone to stop using the best strategy to achieve what he wants? It's like telling someone that the job they earn money from is k…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 07:25 PM
2

Wait, you ask in the middle of a date to leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 12:51 AM
9

I'm in high school, and this couldn't be further from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:04 AM
1

Jewelry, fashion, and clothes are all also methods to attract the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 02:48 PM
1

I think that girls do feel at least as safe as I do. If you're a girl, there's a good (not 100% but good nonetheless) that some guy(s) will step in to defend you. If you're a guy, there's little to no chance of the same thing happening coupled with a much higher chance that you'll be attacked (while it's unlikely that I'd get raped, it's much more likely that I would be robbed or killed) in the first place. Again, the difference is between feelings and reality. A girl might feel unsafe, but unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 08:18 PM
1

It seems ridiculous to me to not have at least some apprehension when you're alone out at night. That's natural instinct telling us to be careful and watch out for predators. Just because I feel fear doesn't mean I have to let it control me. To address your second point, while girls might feel threatened sometimes, they also have plenty of white knights to fight for m'lady if some other guy threatens her. Have you seen the videos of what happens to guys who hit girls in public, even if the girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 07:58 PM
1

There are definite differences, but everyone has things they have to deal with. Where girls might receive too much unwanted attention, guys often receive too little attention at all. Also no, I'm not less scared at night than they are, I just don't vocalize it because it calls my masculinity into question to show weakness. You're confusing being afraid with being vocal about your fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 07:27 PM
2

As a terper, I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 06:52 PM
1

I don't think I'm the most oppressed person in the room, but I also don't think I'm the most privileged. As a guy still in high school, my experience is that I'm pretty equal with the females in my classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 06:50 PM
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I don't understand how you can use this as an argument when you've denied several other differing opinions based on the idea that "anecdotes" cannot be trusted. Why would I trust your anecdote if you refuse to trust other people's?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 08:32 PM
1

Yeah that seems fair
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 09:52 AM
1

...how?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 10:31 PM
2

You continue to lack an actual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 09:52 AM
3

If a woman wanted to please me, show would lose weight if I asked her to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:59 AM
6

How exactly does this prove your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:47 AM
8

Incorrect. Many of us WERE nice guys but realized that that doesn't work, and so changed our strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 11:13 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:37 PM
0

My preferences: Fat - Nope Curvy - Meh, there are definitely curvy women I find attractive, but compared to thin women a lot less Thin - Yes, please
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 11:47 PM
2

Interesting theory. Personally I tend to be attracted to very thin women more than women you would call curvy. I'm not gay though, so either your claim is incorrect or I don't understand my own sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 11:45 PM
5

I disagree. I think the friendzone occurs when a beta male is friends with a female and grows attached to her over time. Usually there is not a preconceived plan to get sex from her. The guy actually does fall in love with the girl over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 11:41 PM
2

Fair enough. I didn't say I'm better equipped than anyone else, just that I was uniquely equipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 10:24 PM
2

Ooh! I think I'm uniquely equipped to answer this since I'm still in high school. I don't think coed gym is making guys wimpy. We're as testosterone-filled and competitive as ever. However, the girls in gym class don't have to do anything. They just stand there and let the guys do all the work, which does reinforce the idea that girls never have to make an effort because guys will do everything for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:50 PM
4

The first time I had a rape fantasy it was a dream, and I woke up feeling really dirty, like for several days. Since then, especially since discovering TRP, I've become more comfortable with my subconscious. Now I can have rape fantasies and not let that affect my mood, and I continue to be confident that I would never rape anyone irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 03:06 PM
2

Like love, respect is conditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 03:01 PM
1

Well I got friendzoned a bunch in middle school and freshman year. I discovered TRP near the end of freshman year, but dismissed it as I had just got my first gf. Over that summer I found that I was unhappy with the relationship, which confused me as I thought that I was receiving everything I had wanted. I broke up with her, then moved back to reading TRP to try to understand where I was wrong in understanding my own desires. From there, I began fl adhere to TRP philosophy... and the rest is hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 11:29 AM
1

Maybe I phrases that poorly. It's more along the lines of I don't want to date women older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 11:13 AM
2

As long as no one in the relationship is a child, I think any age gap is fine. I personally am not attracted to women older than myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:17 AM
1

Redpill male, 16, sophomore in high school, American, AMA
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:50 PM
4

This is also the rule on the main TRP sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:49 PM
2

In my experience, TRP tends to be split into two camps, those who believe in honor and try to hold themselves to some virtuous standard, and those (like me) who don't expect anyone else to treat them honorably and so opt for a more Machiavellian approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 10:16 AM
5

So sexually frustrated Jim over here should just wait until he finds a person who is self aware enough to understand that they can have a good relationship with him instead of using tactics that he regularly observes as effective? Also, if we assume that everyone is self aware, what if everyone comes to the conclusion that Jim is not a good partner. How does your strategy provide a method for Jim to achieve sexual success?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:58 AM
1

How many of your male friends do you think secretly want to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:06 AM
2

If I may add on, I'd like to explain my view of AWALT and how I use it in the pragmatic sense. In my mind, AWALT is a similar philosophy in theory to the "all men are rapists" claim in that it uses certain biological urges to generalize a certain gender. The reason for this is safety: a man who believes in AWALT will be much more aware of red flags when dealing with women. However, the other effect that bloopers are quick to point out is that it creates suspicion and confirmation bias, leading t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 01:00 AM
3

Amen, your post is spot on with my plugged-in experience too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 09:44 PM
0

You don't "be" alpha. You exhibit alpha traits. Conversely, you can exhibit beta traits. The likelihood of you exhibiting one type vs. the other is affected by both your genes and your upbringing. TRP is for guys that for whatever reason are exhibiting too many beta traits and want to learn to act alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 12:46 AM
5

Doesn't mean it isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:56 PM
1

1) Red 2) High school student 3) Work out, play guitar 4) Watching tv, listening to music 5) I'd probably get sacrificed first as I'm the youngest
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 12:01 PM
12

This. She literally compares her actions to those of a sexual predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 01:24 AM
9

"They need to be taught how to enjoy sex" Didn't you just earlier say they need to explore sexuality on their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 01:21 AM
5

Wait, does a trial not matter? Or does him going to prison not matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 01:19 AM
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"Men's opinions are taken more seriously than women's" If I accuse a girl of rape, will it be treated as seriously as it would be if a girl accused me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 01:17 AM
10

"I would give him the death penalty"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 01:14 AM
4

While they are publicly respected, I wonder how many of them do not have fulfilling personal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 01:07 AM
1

Feels bad man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 10:20 PM
1

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 10:11 PM
1

I'm sure he was a very nice guy, but one should always keep in mind that many psychopaths are well integrated into society and appear normal to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 10:07 PM
14

Being called mysogynistic doesn't upset me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 04:42 PM
15

TRP is not about making women's lives better. TRP is about making men's lives better. Because of this, hypocrisy is not relevant. If you want sexual strategy for females, go to RedPillWomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 03:31 PM
2

Well there's my problem. And I do fully admit that it's likely because I'm still quite young, but I've not ever met someone who is mature and also attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 01:57 PM
2

All of that sounds great, but doesn't it take two mature partners to create a relationship that works as you describe?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 11:39 AM
1

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 11:37 AM
1

Look. I see your point. The vast majority of people is against rape, but putting up a curfew for men is simply not going to improve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 01:43 AM
2

Ah okay, taking into consideration means wanting positive effects for all parties. In that case, I would agree that dread game is not mature. Next question: why is it better to be mature than not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:55 PM
1

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:16 PM
2

"Pasty fuckers" Kek
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:12 PM
2

Oh I can't even begin to tank of all the times I've been out at night and just accidentally raped a woman. It just kinda happens, man! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:12 PM
1

All people are naturally free to make their own choices. Society simply places certain consequences on freedom. If I murder a guy I'll get arrested for it. I think that in different societies, men and women would have different limitations (i.e. Negative consequences) on their choices. I'm pretty happy with the consequences for both male and female choices in my society (America) with the exception of the whole rape accusation thing. We should punish women who falsely accuse a man of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:10 PM
1

I ask about age because of the concept of the wall. TRP argues that many women will suddenly lock down a beta once they realize they want to have children and be well-financed. This doesn't necessarily mean that they are attracted to the beta, but rather use him for stability as they've used alphas for sex in the past. Again, I'm not gay and don't know any gay people well in person, so I can't pretend to be any kind of expert on gay relationships. However, I can say that in my experience and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 08:21 PM
1

These women you speak of... what age do they generally fall under? Also, you being gay is relevant here because TRP is specifically strategy for heterosexual males. I don't think TRP really has any understanding of gay relationships because we don't focus on them. I can't really make any generalizations about gay people because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 07:21 PM
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Based on this definition, maturity only applies when expressing feelings or ideas. What if I am not doing either of those? Also, wouldn't dread game be an example of expressing one's own feelings while taking into consideration how the other will react (i.e. by trying to be more affectionate)? Taking into consideration simply means being aware, not necessarily making any moral conclusions. If I hurt someone while taking into consideration that they will be in pain, would I be mature?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 07:19 PM
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Placeholder for when GLO bombs this post to oblivion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 06:58 PM
2

What does mature mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 06:54 PM
1

Sounds healthy to me. Either you are an anomaly or your SO isn't actually beta. Either way, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 06:53 PM
1

If you don't mind me asking... how often do you guys have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:21 AM
2

So if my choices are a) sulk and therefore receive more affection or b) do not sulk and therefore receive less affection... why would I choose b over a?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 01:09 AM
2

Can you define sulking for me please? I think we're talking circles around each other because we're thinking of different actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 10:36 PM
1

My standards are not permeable save for those listed as "bonus". I believe that I have higher standards than the average man. Not really into ONS. FWB: -Physically attractive to me -Pleasant personality -Doesn't have an annoying voice/laugh -Not too serious LTR: -Physically attractive to me -Pleasant personality -Doesn't have an annoying voice/laugh -Submissive -Knows when to be serious or not -Actively tries to better understand the world around her -Fashion sense that appeals to me -Regularly …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 08:18 PM
2

Pouting /= indifference. However, if it were pouting that made females more attracted to males, men would pout. The point is, it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 08:02 PM
1

I hope this becomes a thing in the future. I'll be able to devote so much more time to doing other cool shit as opposed to learning to game women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 10:15 AM
1

But you could program your sex bot to tell you ego pleasing things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 10:15 AM
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I think dread game does work on men, but it tends to create the same reaction in an average man as it does in an average woman, i.e. they get more clingy and try to please their partner more. While a woman doing this is generally attractive to a man, the reverse comes across as beta to most women. Therefore, while dread game works on men, it doesn't really get women what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 10:12 AM
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I agree, it doesn't sound as fun. However, in my experience and that of many other terpers, acting indifferent towards females causes them to be sweeter and more feminine to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 09:54 AM
2

I only bring it up because in my case, TRP is what gave me the strength to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 10:20 PM
1

Can confirm. When I was depressed a few years ago, I probably would've done much more damage if I'd cut vertically. Weird instance where ignorance actually benefitted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 09:37 PM
4

Why do both parties have to do this? If one party doesn't do it and still gets what he/she wants out of the relationship, isn't it a better deal for that individual? Why would you not take a better deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 08:10 PM
1

I'd like to have casual sex with young women throughout my college years and beyond, as a part of cultivating an exciting life. The most critical part of RP for me is sexual strategy (lifting plus game). Extraneous parts of RP include basically anything men's rights related. I don't particularly care about society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 12:52 AM
7

Why is it common?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:38 PM
2

So basically well-adjusted means following your particular view on what is right and wrong without question, and anyone who doesn't agree with you is malformed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:36 PM
1

So you're saying that if it can't survive on its own, it doesn't deserve anything? In that case, we might as well let all babies die...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:33 PM
1

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:17 PM
2

I can love a child too. This doesn't mean I'd ever be willing to think of it an an equal or have sex with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:22 PM
22

Ah yes, don't get rid of any benefits women have while getting rid of all benefits men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:17 PM
1

"In the way you instinctively believe it to be true without question" Doesn't natural law basically state the same thing about morality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:12 PM
1

Don't need it personally, but, like the broader idea of morality, it helps me by making society more predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 12:52 AM
1

I don't care what choice is more moral as long as they get the same result, I'm just providing info for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 12:48 AM
1

You believe in natural law I assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 09:38 PM
1

Not a sociopath myself, but cost-benefit is definitely my reason for not going around killing people too. It's interesting that people will think you're evil if you say you do things because of simple logic instead of morals when in reality they often lead to the same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 09:38 PM
1

There is a difference between actively killing one's child and leaving it up to nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 09:33 PM
1

Well to be fair, it's not murder if it's legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 09:32 PM
4

I think abortion is fine. I also believe that it is a form of killing. I think it's hypocritical for pro choice people to say that abortion is not the willful killing of a living being. I, however, do not believe in a fundamental right to life. One must create value in their life, or there is no reason not to kill them (or to kill them either). I view abortion in the same way as I view killing someone who is in your way. The major difference is that one is legal and the other not (I do think tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:20 PM
1

If you can prove that free will exists, I'll be very impressed!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:10 AM
2

What does "well-adjusted" mean to you? TRP is for men who have a particular goal, and gives them the proper tools for achieving that goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 03:12 PM
2

I can't speak for all of TRP, but I don't think men are capable of love either, at least in the way you view it. Unconditional love does not exist. Women often have less scarcity mindset than men. I believe that if men in general had as many options as women, they would branch swing as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 03:10 PM
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It was done in order to improve your standing with her parents, who at the time had a substantial ability to control whether you could marry their daughter. Nowadays women have more personal control of who they date/fuck/marry so we don't need to do those extra steps anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 01:42 AM
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For the unmarried male or female: reflect on what you did or did not do that led to your partner lacking respect for you. Hard next your partner and move on with lessons learned. For the married male or female: get a divorce lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 01:39 AM
1

I think one of the things that varies from person to person on this sub is the definition of "abuse" or "misogyny."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 12:48 AM
1

Which ones are abusive and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 09:58 PM
7

I like how the nicknames for redpillers and bluepillers get more and more distorted by the day. In a year from now, we'll be talking about the "Trups and the Blubs" or some shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 09:52 PM
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I agree with you that most feminists aren't like that, however I don't believe most people who identified as members of the KKK back in the day actively went out and linched people either. I believe if I can condemn them, I can condemn feminism. Most feminists are harmless. Most people are harmless. My litmus test for the feminism red flag is if a chick brings up to me that she's feminist without my asking for her opinion on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 09:48 PM
3

Wouldn't you describe winning a debate as acquiring validation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 09:45 PM
2

You illustrate a good point. I'm probably projecting some of my idealism onto how I'd like to think people act. In the context of the sexual revolution (assuming that you live in the west) it makes sense that, because you are female, you aren't really held to any standards. Have you ever had difficulty getting sex or a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 09:44 PM
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See here's the issue for me personally. I'm not nice. I'm not moral. It goes against how I see the world. With that as part of who I am, pretending to be nice will be pretty obvious to any women I want to court. Is your belief that I simply should not ever get laid then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 08:09 PM
2

Why are they terrible red flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 08:07 PM
2

Why're you here if you don't want validation? It's definitely one of the reasons I'm here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 08:06 PM
1

"Not all men..." ... I've yet to come across a culture that doesn't idealize female virginity. In response to your second point, I have no idea what a girl is really thinking before she has sex because I'm not a girl, but if I were to guess, there would likely be (especially on her first time) fear of being called a slut afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 08:05 PM
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If a girl is hurt by a guy, it's the guy's fault because girls are viewed as weaker. If a guy is hurt by a girl, it's the guy's fault because he wasn't dominant enough to keep the girl under control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:52 PM
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It's not that nobody will want them, but the General RP consensus is that, when they hit the wall, the men they want won't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:49 PM
3

Would you give some reasons why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:48 PM
0

Well think about it. Virgin females are more attractive to males for LTR. The same is not true for virgin males.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:48 PM
7

Even though I lurk there and read, TRP is really an echochamber. Purple pill forces ideas to be tested, and thus strengthened or eliminated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 11:58 AM
1

I always think of South Korea when I think of plastic surgery. I see a lot of posts here saying they don't like it because it looks unnatural, and maybe that's true for a majority of people. IMHO I am more attracted to Korean women with plastic surgery than anyone else on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 08:36 PM
1

Honestly I lean toward sub more but I just bury that shit cause it's pretty unrealistic to expect dom in a chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 08:21 PM
1

My parents were both virgins when they got married AFAIK. They definitely do have hypocritical views, but their response when I bring contradictions up is that they simply don't care. I don't have a ton of respect for my folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 01:38 PM
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I wonder if being on antidepressants affects my views including TRP then. I always viewed it as the other way around, because becoming a terper motivated me to start taking care of myself and stop self harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 12:59 AM
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This is very interesting to me. Both my parents were in their 20s in the 80s but they raised me with the belief that sex should only be done for procreative purposes. I wonder how much of my openness to sex is a backlash to their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 12:55 AM
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Thanks for the explanation! So, based on this, it seems to me that the main flaw with TRP (and a turn off for a lot of people) is that it attempts to rationalize itself in ways that aren't necessarily logical. I follow TRP guidelines for dealing with people because in my experience they are generally correct, not because I think they're rationalized by pop psych. I believe that TRP has discovered successful methods for interaction, but not necessarily figured out why those methods work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 01:04 AM
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Men don't love women for who they are. Men create idealizations of women to fulfill personal fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 07:36 PM
1

I honestly don't know a lot about the debate in terms of evo psych. Can you explain what's wrong with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 07:34 PM
1

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 07:26 PM
2

I'm a new member of this sub. Would you be willing to explain why RedPillSchool was banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 09:58 AM
3

Aren't people in general nice in order to get something? Why is it different when that something is sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 10:09 AM
3

I'm doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 10:04 AM
2

You said both "fuck" and "be with." Can we establish which one of these you are talking about currently so that I may respond appropriately?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:47 AM
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Women are attracted to men who have value. Men have multiple ways of gaining and displaying value. TRP describes methods of both acquiring and expressing one's value so that one may be more successful with women and therefore be more satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:44 AM
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I couldn't care less if the women I fuck are self respecting or not. LTR is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:32 AM
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The rational thing is to accept women for both their positive and negative aspects, and figure out how to incorporate them into your life (or not, if you're MGTOW) successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 10:26 PM
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My guess is the majority of us terpers say we're doing it for ourselves when in reality we're doing it for puss.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 10:15 PM
1

Fair enough. I envy you. My main weakness currently is oneitis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 10:11 PM
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TRP would say that the LTR you really want that has eluded you your entire life is a juvenile fantasy that will make oneitis more likely with every girl who you see potential in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:56 PM
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Keep in mind that men and women want different things. Women will never face the same struggle as men in terms of finding sex. But men will never face the difficult that women face of trying to find a good relationship with someone she is actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:42 PM
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Men are called bachelors because it's assumed their still fucking chicks. It's easy to tell if a woman is in a relationship (the measure of her sexual success) but more difficult to tell if a man has a bunch of plates/is having regular sex (the measure of his). Men are given the benefit of doubt in this case, but for many it's simply not true. I think the shaming that single women receive is more comparable to the shaming that virginal men receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:40 PM
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I'd consider myself a hedonist, and I agree that morality exists for a reason. I likely wouldn't last long at all in an amoral society, but I don't particularly care. My goal is to experience as much pleasure as I can before I die.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:21 PM
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Not if I get something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:11 PM
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Well the first time I read through TRP was actually just after I'd started dating E. I was your typical nice guy at the time and was incredibly surprised to find that a girl liked me (she basically asked me out and initiated everything cause I was super beta). Because of my apparent success, I dismissed TRP. However, as the relationship progressed, I began to learn a lot more about both her and myself. This included learning that she really wanted to be dominated in bed and led around in general…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:11 PM
1

Okay and why is emotional manipulation a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:55 PM
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"If you keep throwing insults at her to make her feel insecure then there's a problem" Would you specify what exactly the problem is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:20 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 01:26 AM
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Many members of the WBC think homosexuality is harmful to a lot of people. It's the same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 09:30 PM
1

The issue with single rule or even oligarchy is it goes through spouts of really good leaders and spouts of really bad leaders. While democracy certainly isn't perfect, I think it's shown itself to be more effective than other types of government. That being said, I certainly don't think democracy is a system that will continue to support any country indefinitely. My expectation is that all countries over time will fall and be replaced by new ones. Considering this, I don't care about my country…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:48 PM
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I'm interested to see other responses on this post, but I the main thing I see bloopers referring to as sexist are generalizations. I personally think generalizations are helpful when first entering a situation. As you get to know the variables better, you adjust your thinking accordingly. But the point of the generalization is to have a platform to stand on instead of going into the situation blind, it's a success strategy. Now if bloopers want to say that we should not make generalizations abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:53 PM
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The issue is that in many terpers' experiences, women often give LMR even when they want to have sex. The theory is that she wants you to power through her LMR.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:47 PM
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I might be in the minority here, but I don't believe in right and wrong at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 12:38 AM
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Got a girlfriend for the first time. It wasn't at all what I thought it'd be. Broke up with her because I wasn't happy with the relationship. Realized that what I thought I wanted didn't jive with what I actually wanted. Had heard about TRP. Seemed relevant. Checked it out and started learning. Voila
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:30 PM
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It's interesting to me that unconditional love is viewed as a good thing when, for a lot of men, it causes unnecessary pain. I envy women for their more calculated sense of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 04:33 PM
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I don't know where the majority of terpers stand on morality, but I honestly don't care if I put my needs above my partner's. If getting what I want hurts other people, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 12:34 AM
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And therefore you asked a question and I clarified my views. Not specifying something isn't inconsistent logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 09:50 PM
1

"Nonconsensual sex is something that turns me off." If I don't like nonconsensual sex, what other type of sex would I like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 09:36 PM
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Why is being manipulative directly connected to being "shitty?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 09:35 PM
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If you're trying to establish that I try to get what I want, then you are correct. However, as this conversation is about me personally, I can assure you that I do not want to be a part of nonconsensual sex. If I wanted to rape people, I would rape people. I don't, so I don't. Not sure where the inconsistency is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 09:25 PM
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Nonconsentual sex is something that turns me off, so it's really a non-issue. I have no intentions of ever raping anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 01:29 PM
1

Sure, I try to do my part to keep this sub productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:43 PM
2

I've seen black women on television that I'm attracted to, but I've never met any that I find attractive in real life. I have no idea why this is. I guess it's just wired into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:37 PM
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Is the woman in this relationship in possession of fee will? You're not making anyone feel anything. You do something and they interpret it in a certain way that makes them more desirous of your attention. Also you completely misunderstand holding frame. It's not about shutting people up, but about passing shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 08:52 PM
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16/male/sophomore in high school/conservative leaning (I don't care all that much about politics)/feminism is something that gets in my way in regards to acquiring sex, therefore I don't like it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:54 PM
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So women can get laid easily, but have more difficulty finding a satisfying relationship. I can agree with this. My question: is it the opposite for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 09:28 PM
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Well many of us recognize that we might not fully understand these concepts, which is why discussion of them is helpful. I'd be interested in better understanding AA.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 09:22 PM
2

This will inspire revolt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:52 AM
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I had discovered TRP and read through it but I only actually became interested in the philosophy after I got my first girlfriend and nothing was as I'd expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:46 AM
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Okay two things. First of all, interesting reads. I think a lot of these things are very helpful to functioning in society. The main one that I think needs to be addressed is the focus on "expressing emotions." I think many terpers will agree with me when I say that in my experience, women react much more positively to stoicism and unemotional conduct. While I think it is important to be able to express one's emotions, I've realized that I will never be able to do that with a woman in whom I wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 10:19 PM
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This is interesting. Let's roll with it. So if narcissism is one strategy that people with autism can use to succeed socially, do you have a better/more healthy way for autistic people to achieve their goals socially? It seems to me that if an autistic person simply cannot connect to others well, narcissism might be helpful to at least receive the normal physical benefits of a (romantic) relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:54 PM
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Narcissism is extremely different from autism. As a terper, I could definitely make an argument for us being narcissists or at least cultivating narcissism. I don't see where autism fits in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:44 PM
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Question to bloopers? Can you put forward a working definition of misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 11:08 PM
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I'm not suggesting being a genius or celebrity. What I'm talking about is things like social proof. If a woman sees a man in the company of other attractive woman, she'll be more attracted to him. If a man sees a woman, it doesn't matter if she's got attractive men nearby, the woman's looks are the only factor. I'll concede your second point, because I've definitely seen that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 08:19 PM
1

I think the average women has higher standards than the average man for just about everything, but men's desire is much more simplistic. Women are much more likely to have sex with a less attractive but highly successful/rich/popular man than men are with the same types of women. If you're a man who is not physically attractive, you can work on building up SMV in other ways. If you're a women, you pretty much have to be physically attractive to get men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:43 PM
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So hooking up with women has everything to do with being attractive a d being in the right place at the right time?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:40 PM
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The pendulum always swings too far. When men first become red pill aware, they go through what's called "the anger phase" where there is a lot of genuine misogyny. This is a difficult time for these men, as they realize that much of the time they've spent trying to get women has been a waste, as they had a fundamental lack of understanding of how women work. A successful and mature redpiller will level out over time, and come to accept both women and men for who they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:36 PM
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I feel like the word manipulation gets thrown around a lot here as a negative thing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but manipulation is not coercion. It is a neutral action that can be done for positive or negative affects to one or both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:31 PM
1

My parents are extremely religious and have very conservative views on sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 05:40 PM
3

I can't speak for all men, but most of my life I've vocalized the "I want to love romantically" while actually mainly desiring sex. Society told me that wanting sex first is bad, so I covered it up with a guise of romance. I suspect many other men experienced something similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 02:03 PM
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"Seek love. Sex will follow" This is a flawed approach, it's much easier to achieve love from sex than to achieve sex from love. Looking for love first will miscommunication your intentions to the female, and she'll feel betrayed when you want to be more than friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 12:51 PM
3

Women's attraction is based on a lot more than good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 12:43 PM
2

Not necessarily external goals, but goals nonetheless. I realized this when I was younger and beta and I was obsessed with this one girl (A). Meanwhile, another girl (B) was obsessed with me. I would go out of my way to talk to girl A. While I could easily talk with girl B, there was no pleasure in it. I realized that in reality what I wanted from girl A was to have sex, and I had convinced myself that things like talking to her and making her laugh would make sex more likely. Meanwhile, I'm sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:46 PM
1

Maybe I am in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 10:00 PM
1

Can you give me an example of a relationship with another human being that doesn't benefit you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:50 PM
1

I agree that humans are social creatures, but we're social in order to accomplish things. I don't feel any sense of accomplishment from someone else simply understanding me or caring about me. My parents care about me a lot, but I rarely think about them at all. I'm not trying to be malicious towards them, but that's just the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:42 PM
1

Maybe I'm an exception, but venting about problems doesn't make me feel any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:48 PM
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"I'll just assume that your goal is not to ruin other people's biological prowess." This is incorrect, my goal is to maximize pleasure for myself while alive, if this requires ruining other people's biological prowess, so be it. "It's a bit foolish to think that this is the only sexual strategy used within the animal kingdom." Of course it's not, but it's the one that humans use. While we share biological similarities with bonobos, we are not bonobos. "Everyone should have a choice on what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:46 PM
1

I would attribute everything I've achieved in my life to hard work, discipline, and people skills. Intelligence has not really done much for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:49 AM
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Yes but all of how I was raised was based on some preliminary tests that I did at the beginning of school along with everyone else that forever decided the courses of our education. However arbitrarily, it was based on some level of natural intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:36 AM
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I was always told that I was brilliant when I was little, of course that petered out over time, but I'm still treated by people who know me as very intelligent. I'm above average, but I think people think that I'm a lot more intelligent than I actually am. Being viewed as intelligent severely damaged my childhood. I didn't work as hard as other kids and got good results, I became socially shut off from others because I was raised to think that I was better than them. I've had to teach myself hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 11:51 PM
1

As a terper, I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 11:45 PM
0

In my experience, girls never give helpful advice when asked emotional questions, they either express how badly they feel for you and leave it there or just ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 11:42 PM
1

I would argue that you do have a TRP relationship and are not aware of it. I don't think TRP actually has a lot to do with how much either partner earns in their profession, but instead that both maintain the attraction between them. A truly confident male might not necessarily care about how much his partner makes in relation to him. This confidence is what is attractive. You also said that "he is not TRP alpha," but then go on to say that "he knows what he wants." Assuming you are implying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 11:23 PM
0

A better description would be that she believes he is alpha, and that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:08 PM
2

They don't want to see the work it took to get there because they want to believe that their man was a natural and required no work to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:41 PM
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"My SO never needed that." Here is the key to why he is alpha and you are attracted to him. Attraction is biological and women are attracted to men with good genes. The fact that he did not need TRP to attract you demonstrates to you that he is "legitimate." Women naturally dislike men who are found to have achieved alpha status through anything other than nature. This is where we get the concept of a "try hard." If women cannot discern the natural alphas from the self-made alphas, it makes thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 02:23 PM
0

There's a difference between being a player and having the capacity to be a player.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 02:11 PM
2

That's exactly what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 09:58 AM
2

Won't shaming women for being sluts lead to a greater number of non-slut women available to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 11:14 PM
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Is anyone actively focusing on creating male birth control? It seems to be wishful thinking at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 11:04 PM
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Both of these instances of shaming make sense, because a virgin male is a biological failure, and a slutty female is a biological failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 10:32 PM
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Virgins are great for LTRs, awful for ONS
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 10:21 PM
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