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Let's be clear about this, though: A little bit of kino or honesty at the very beginning and he could have had her. The night that she breaks up with her boyfriend and comes to you for comfort is not the time to confess your feelings for her, because at that point, it's already WAAAAY too late to be doing that.
/r/seduction31/01/12 05:34 PM
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The problem comes in the name, I think. People tend to think of a "freeze-out" as something defensive, like a basketball player might do, or something punitive—"I'm going to punish you for not responding the way I want by being pissy and giving you the silent treatment"—but it's neither of these things. When a girl says "we shouldn't be doing this," and you act as if nothing's wrong, but merely roll over and act cool about it, you're respecting her wishes. You're also showing that sex isn't the …
/r/seduction30/01/12 03:24 PM
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It's interesting that you see changing her emotional state as a "game," because I get the impression that most women would feel that it's a "game" when you don't engage their emotions in their decisionmaking process. She'll feel more manipulated if you "logic" her into sleeping with you than if you simply made her feel more comfortable.
/r/seduction30/01/12 02:28 PM
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A friend of mine was being hit on by some crazy dude in a bar a couple of months ago. I was waiting for a drink at the bar about five feet away from her and I could hear him talking to her, and I just knew that she didn't want to be talking with this guy, so after I got my drink I sidled up next to her and said "Man, I'm sorry, that took way longer than I thought it would." She picked up on it immediately and "resumed" talking to me as if I were her date or whatever, and the guy got PISSED that …
/r/seduction30/01/12 02:26 PM
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Persuasion and logic are lamer ways to get her to give it up because women simply don't respond as well to logic. They tend to require an emotional reason for something, and convincing them to do something with their brains without engaging their emotions is going to backfire on you later. They will feel betrayed.
/r/seduction30/01/12 01:53 PM
3

*sigh* It's quite obvious that you don't read this subreddit very much, because if you did, you'd know that we get these kinds of posts every few weeks. "You're not doing it right! Here's how you SHOULD do it." "You're not respecting women enough!" "Uh, yes we are. You're just misunderstanding." "Oh. Carry on." Et cetera, et cetera. If there was anything, anything at all I could do to make this subreddit, it would be to tell the people posting "does x line work" to read the friggin sidebar. But …
/r/seduction29/01/12 02:46 AM
1

I'm in southeastern Connecticut; I certainly wouldn't mind going out in Providence, though I'm almost 10 years older than you are...
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:46 PM
4

This is, wow, really REALLY cynical and jaded. You make it seem like it's a conscious decision on the part of the woman to string the guy along. It's not, at least in most cases. Women don't say to themselves "Oh yay, another guy I can dangle on my hook." What they say is "Hmm, I know he's attracted to me, and I'm not attracted back. But he knows I'm not, so if he's sticking around, he must be okay with that, and I really like his company! As long as he doesn't try anything, we should be okay ju…
/r/seduction24/01/12 04:11 PM
7

I have this same condition in both feet (well, probably not the same condition, but close enough that it's essentially the same even if it's probably different bones that are fused—with my feet, it's a couple bones in the heel). I just ignore it. If they ask why I'm limping, I shrug it off and just say I have an ankle condition. The important thing is simply that I don't let it affect who I am or how I act. If I can ignore it, so can they. It's only a big deal if I make it one.
/r/seduction23/01/12 04:46 PM
2

It's not impossible to get out of, but why waste your time and effort trying? There are so many more women out there who HAVEN'T put you in the friend zone, so why not try with them instead?
/r/seduction22/01/12 08:15 PM
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You go out and have fun, great. Lots of people will tell you that if you just do that, you will get laid. But in order to get laid, you have to engage in basic, human behavior of conversing, flirting, reading IOIs, etc. You are still giving a fuck. You're misunderstanding the concept. "Not giving a fuck" isn't about not caring or not engaging. It's about not being defined by others' opinions of you. When a PUA says he was out chatting with women and not giving a fuck, what he means is that it do…
/r/seduction19/01/12 05:25 PM
1

I think it's an insult to the art of dance Yeah, because the way we've been dancing up until now has been so artful. Let's face it: unless you're doing some kind of performance (things like salsa and swing dance count as performance dance, even when you're on a dance floor with a bunch of other people), it doesn't matter. We move to the beat of the music we feel, and the type of movement often has a direct correlation to how primal the music is. That's why club music leads to grinding. But there…
/r/seduction18/01/12 05:05 AM
1

My point is more that seddit should be considered just as NSFW as anything else. I don't know if you can really say that I'm skirting the issue when I did say that having never seen any NSFW content on that glossary page, I don't feel it's disingenuous for somebody to have not known about it in the first place. I'm a Sysadmin and I can tell you that there are proxy servers at my organization and they are logging urls. As an IT guy you should know how this works, and that URLs can be used multipl…
/r/seduction17/01/12 05:00 PM
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I'm hardly "bashing" him. I'm just saying he's being a little hyperbolic about this. For one, I'm an IT guy and I can tell you that there's no way for HR or anybody else to know what the content of a banner ad looks like based solely on its URL, so unless they're manually looking through your browser cache, they're not going to call you on it. Secondly, unless you have some pretty draconian Acceptable Use policies (under which case you'd be stupid for reading reddit in the first place), it's a t…
/r/seduction17/01/12 04:05 PM
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So you're saying your boss would be fine with you wasting time on reddit, but one banner ad with a chick in her underwear and THAT'S IT, YOU'RE FIRED! You could have looked up the terms yourself on google. Don't blame others for your own ignorance, and don't expect them to spoon-feed you because that way, you won't see NSFW ads. Or better yet, don't read seddit at work.
/r/seduction17/01/12 02:45 PM
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Yeah, huge punishment. ;)
/r/seduction12/01/12 12:57 AM
2

Well, they're obviously not here if they don't do pickup. Again, I just say that you can either try what we suggest and see if it works (how could it be worse than what you're doing now?), or not, but don't tell us it isn't going to work without doing it at all.
/r/seduction11/01/12 09:27 PM
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Well of course it's personal conjecture. But that's the whole point of this thread. If you're just looking to come in and look for ways to discount what we say, then what's the point?
/r/seduction11/01/12 09:18 PM
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That's great! I suggest you go to Seddit's sidebar and reading up on the link that says "All About Inner Game." In my experience, the thing that prevents you from doing it is you and only you. Honestly, the thing that had the biggest impact on my interactions with women was realizing how my own attitude was preventing me from doing it.
/r/seduction11/01/12 09:17 PM
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A good pickup artist is a JOY to be around. I take a huge amount of pride in the fact that I have a lot of friends, and I believe they consider me to be a very good person. And every woman I've ever been with also sees me as a good person and is happy they were with me.
/r/seduction11/01/12 09:10 PM
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Would it make more sense to you if we called it a dance? That's how I tend to see it: It's a somewhat choreographed back-and-forth between you and a woman. There are certain social norms that you adhere to, and others that you don't, and it's FUN to do. If done right, it's graceful, beautiful, and enjoyable.
/r/seduction11/01/12 09:08 PM
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I could change myself and follow this 'PUA' literature, but I'm at the point where I've got a lifestyle that I've become comfortable with, and developed a whole identity with it, that I have personal fears of losing myself I think that this is another fallacy that's related to PUA literature. A lot of guys look at stuff like The Game and The Mystery Method and think "Man, there's a lot of manipulation involved here," or perhaps "This all seems so FAKE." And guess what? I agree with that. It IS f…
/r/seduction11/01/12 09:01 PM
6

Oh, come on, I just wrote one last weekend. :)
/r/seduction11/01/12 08:54 PM
9

Don't know how I skipped over that sentence. Mea culpa.
/r/seduction11/01/12 08:42 PM
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Sedditor I have a FA friend who says that he's read some of the PUA literature and he still doesn't understand HOW it works. I've tried to explain a lot of the premises behind it all, and he simply refuses to admit that it could work, even though he's never tried any of it and I have personal experience that directly contradicts his notions that it couldn't possibly be successful. To take it from another perspective: I read a book several years ago about managing finances called The Wealthy Barb…
/r/seduction11/01/12 08:39 PM
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Sedditor The basic premise of this is to go up to a girl, say hi, then fail miserably. You'll suck ass at it. I did. We all did. Everyone sucks with talking to women at first. You'll feel like shit. You'll feel total rejection. You'll be at the lowest of the low, you'll be analyzing everything you did wrong. No. This is NOT the basic premise. The basic premise is that you go up to a girl, say hi, then fail miserably. And then you realize that failure does. not. hurt. And then it becomes that muc…
/r/seduction11/01/12 08:32 PM
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Don't confront her about it. Just cut off all contact. If she does ask where you've gone to (and she may, or she may not), just say you've been really busy and haven't had time to do ANYTHING lately. Then do the classic "We'll hang out soon, I promise" move. EDIT: Accidentally a word
/r/seduction11/01/12 04:03 PM
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Honestly? I think the bigger increase in attractiveness comes not from the clothes but from the increased level of confidence that comes with knowing that you. look. good.
/r/seduction10/01/12 07:36 PM
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That's because she was a closed-minded bitch who didn't respect somebody else's fantasies, not because he wasn't alpha. There are LOTS of people out there who are alpha in public but submissive in the bedroom. The one has VERY little to do with the other.
/r/seduction10/01/12 06:51 PM
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Thing is, once I saw her waffling, shit test or no, I lost interest. I wasn't going to waste my time after that. Doesn't matter whether she meant it or not. I just came to the realization that I don't need a girl to explain to me ahead of time why she won't be able to go out with me when I call her up.
/r/seduction09/01/12 06:19 AM
3

I think that if a guy tries to tell you that you're out of his league, you should simply say "Look, it's my job to decide that. Don't try to discount yourself before you even get a shot at it."
/r/seduction09/01/12 03:11 AM
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In my experience, the moment a woman says "You mean, like, a date?" is when you can know that she's not interested. If she's surprised by the fact that you brought up a date, it means she never even considered the idea. As for the Facebook message, yeah, I was just venting. It's annoying when women think they're going to destroy your world by turning you down.
/r/seduction08/01/12 11:18 PM
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While I'm not a professional photographer, my reputation with the people I shoot (friends, mostly) is paramount. I get a lot of good results precisely because my subjects know that while I may not always post photos that they like (i.e. ones that always make them look at their most flattering), I would never post images that I didn't think looked good. Since they trust my opinions as an artist, they know that as a result, they will always end up in good images—and I get cooperation. So for a guy…
/r/seduction04/01/12 05:15 PM
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The argument could easily be made on his part that it's editorial work and not commercial, and thus a release wouldn't be necessary. However, if she's right that he's misrepresenting her, she could seek legal action on the basis of defamation of character. But I think she has to be able to prove damages as a result.
/r/seduction04/01/12 04:55 PM
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Yes, definitely a boss move. It's hard to flake or change your mind when they're right there in front of you.
/r/seduction04/01/12 06:59 AM
1

This was going to be my immediate response to the comment. Read the sidebar info, folks. That's what it's there for.
/r/seduction04/01/12 06:58 AM
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You didn't "only state" your personal preference. You did it in a condescending and dickish way. Hence, dick.
/r/seduction01/01/12 11:22 PM
1

When you say the words "I'm sorry," people don't think Did he mean pitiful? Don't be a dick. An apology is an apology, and whether you say the words "I'm sorry" or "I apologize", people receive it in the same way. Mincing words is going to chance that.
/r/seduction01/01/12 11:00 PM
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my opener mostly was happy new year "Happy New Year!" "Oh em gee, fuck off creeper." I can't get this mental image out of my head. Hilarious. Maybe it just wasn't your night. Happens to all of us.
/r/seduction01/01/12 09:08 PM
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Well, considering that I'm a photographer, yes. They're as good as they can be with MY mug in them.
/r/seduction25/12/11 02:55 AM
2

You seem to be missing the point of the original post, which was that the OP was saying exactly the opposite of what you are. I agree that men are supposed to be the aggressor, and I think we're actually agreeing on the point, which is that it doesn't matter how good your profile is, because women won't ever make the first step. That's what I was trying to say.
/r/seduction25/12/11 02:55 AM
3

But... But... http://i.imgur.com/2LHcK.gif
/r/seduction25/12/11 02:53 AM
5

You know what? I've been told by multiple women that my OKC profile is perfectly written. But none of that matters, because women never click on my profile to begin with. I get an average of about five views per month to my profile, which is insanely low. My pictures are good. I just can't figure it out.
/r/seduction24/12/11 05:43 PM
2

Oh come on, don't go getting all logical and stuff here. OP: Dude, you're already putting her on a pedestal. How do you get to know her? Get to know her. The first step is usually an introduction. Don't be intimidated, just talk to her. She's not some untouchable angel—pretend that you aren't attracted to her and then see how easy it is to talk to her.
/r/seduction23/12/11 04:46 PM
3

part of being a dependable man means being a safe harbor, the oak tree, etc. Not if you want to stop that behavior. Part of being a dependable man means putting a stop to childish behavior by calling it what it is. Why would you accept bullshit like that from a girl you don't even know?
/r/seduction16/12/11 01:27 AM
1

I think ALWAYS is a dangerous word to use. Well, I think the phrase should really be always TRY to leave them better than you found them. You can't ever guarantee that another person is going to respond in the way you intend them to. But the intention is important and will inform your actions in the best way possible.
/r/seduction16/12/11 01:00 AM
1

It's easily possible to have a ONS with a girl and still leave her better than you found her. It's not disrespectful, you're right, but don't think that it means you have to stoop to dick moves in order to make it happen. After I've slept with a girl, whether it's a ONS or a FWB or a LTR, I want her to be happy she did it. That IS possible, in my opinion.
/r/seduction16/12/11 12:58 AM
1

it's actually not very honest to disclose this to someone you just met because you have no idea what kind of relationship you will persue with her in the future. She's not asking how you'll feel about her in the future; she's asking how you feel about it now. And it's hardly dishonest to say, in the future, "Y'know, I wasn't looking for a relationship, but now that I've met you and we've gotten to know each other, I think I might be changing my mind," if you decide you want to be in a relationsh…
/r/seduction16/12/11 12:56 AM
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I would consider it unwise to advise anyone, especially a newbie, to follow this course of nonaction, though. If you know what you're doing, I can see how you might be able to turn such a situation to your advantage, but in most circumstances, a person who wasn't as savvy would end up frustrating himself.
/r/seduction13/12/11 08:05 PM
2

CurveBall got this, but I want to point something out: you simply treat it just like you would if you were having dinner with a group of friends. When the check comes, you just have to say "Okay, what does my part come to..." and do your bistro math. Treat it as if it were the normallest thing in the world and there won't be a problem.
/r/seduction13/12/11 04:42 PM
1

I think the point of the video is that women will befriend a guy and never even think of sleeping with him, whereas a guy, given the opportunity, would still sleep with her if she wanted to. And in this aspect, I think the Ladder Theory is absolutely correct: if you're friends with a hot girl, wing or not, and she were to take her clothes off in front of you and proposition you for sex, there's no way in hell you'd say no because it would "ruin the friendship." You'd fuck her and worry about how…
/r/seduction13/12/11 04:36 PM
0

I still say that if you were strip naked in front of him and say "wanna fuck?" he would ultimately capitulate. He might question you once, with a phrase like "Uh, you sure?" But once he realizes you'd be DTF, he'd be willing too.
/r/seduction13/12/11 04:33 PM
2

"This is my living room... this is the kitchen... this is the bedroom—oh look, a bed!" If she's coming home with you, she knows what's up. Give her an excuse to get into the bedroom and the rest will follow.
/r/seduction13/12/11 04:29 PM
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Untrue. If you don't make a move, it doesn't make her want you more, it just makes her friendzone you. If you make SOME moves but leave her wanting more, she will have a higher level of attraction, but doing nothing will never make her want more. She'll just chalk it up to an assumption that you aren't attracted to her and she'll dismiss you.
/r/seduction13/12/11 04:21 PM
2

I'm stealing that. Fun thing about a line like that is you can be totally over the top with it.
/r/seduction12/12/11 05:08 AM
4

Since he lives on the west coast, I would assume that he was in NYC visiting friends. It really helps to have friends who are socially connected in a big city, because there's ALWAYS something you can be doing.
/r/seduction11/12/11 11:48 PM
16

I hate that you post so rarely nowadays, Tofu.
/r/seduction11/12/11 11:39 PM
11

UpliftMofo, meet TofuTofu. Not only is this real, but in most cases, he has other sedditors who can vouch for his stories. He's... kind of a big deal in this community.
/r/seduction11/12/11 11:36 PM
3

Yep—"whoa, slow down tiger" always works for me.
/r/seduction11/12/11 11:29 PM
1

Be that as it may, it would be odd to talk about celebrating Thanksgiving weekend in Japan, would it not? ;)
/r/seduction11/12/11 11:28 PM
7

AFC = Average Frustrated Chump. Equivalent to the traditional "Nice Guy." You should really read up on the basics (see the /r/seduction sidebar and read all of the stuff under the "NEW HERE" section) if you decide you want to stick around here; it will help you to understand the terminology and nomenclature used by the people who frequent Seddit.
/r/seduction10/12/11 09:05 AM
1

Not necessarily. It's good to establish boundaries. Changing your schedule/life around to suit a girl is a classic AFC move. "Oh, you want me to stay? Sure, I guess I can do that." On the other hand, it shows a good level of control to be able to say, "Man, I'd love to stay a little longer. But I do have to work in the morning. We will continue this later." On top of that, it leaves her wanting more, which is almost never a bad thing, and it builds anticipation for the next time.
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:34 PM
3

There's a link on the sidebar under "NEW HERE?" that says "All About Inner Game." Read it, absorb it, love it. Also, the stuff that RSD (Real Social Dynamics) covers is virtually ALL about inner game and how to present the best version of yourself that you possibly can. If you haven't read the rest of the stuff in the sidebar, it's a veritable goldmine of pickup related material.
/r/seduction09/12/11 03:20 PM
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I don't mean to call you guys sluts. He wasn't referring to you calling US sluts. Slut shaming is about shaming the woman, which you did in your previous post by saying that "nice" girls don't sleep with "sleazy" guys. In other words, if she sleeps with a guy who's "like that", then she must not be a nice girl. It's just another way of saying things along the line of "only sluts would sleep with more than one guy in <time period>," or "nice girls don't fuck on the first date," etc.
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:27 AM
2

If she invites you into her apartment, she's looking for sexytimes. Not a guarantee, because there's always the exception to the rule, but the fact that she asked if you were nervous says to me that she thought you weren't moving fast enough. If she knew it wasn't possible for you to stay that long and that you had to catch a train, maybe not, but that's the immediate vibe I was getting from your description. Maybe she was hoping you'd stay later anyway, I dunno.
/r/seduction08/12/11 06:32 PM
1

I'll leave that judgment up to women, not you. And if you do it right, the women have no problem with it. So I contend that rather than I being creepy, it's just that you don't know what you're doing.
/r/seduction06/12/11 09:52 AM
5

Even real social retards can get laid on occasion.
/r/seduction06/12/11 08:41 AM
5

Of course you don't make physical contact in that kind of situation. At least wait a bit otherwise --> creepy. Kino starts immediately. From the point where you're shaking her hand, it is absolutely possible to use kino in a noncreepy way. Maybe you just need to be working at it more, because if you project the right attitude toward a girl, you can touch her as soon as you introduce yourself. I do it all the time—"it's just the kind of person I am."
/r/seduction06/12/11 08:00 AM
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It's a fucking field report. What do you expect? Failures and successes, what works and what didn't. It's for everyone's benefit. Do I expect him to post telling us about each of his fails? Fuck yes I do. He's only going to get better as he continues to work. You know what isn't going to help him get better? Negativity with no constructive criticism, like what you posted.
/r/seduction06/12/11 07:52 AM
2

You got that right.
/r/seduction05/12/11 07:00 PM
4

Y'know, I'm an idiot and I read it backwards (just put HER number in YOUR phone), and I was curious as to why the hell you'd say exactly what the OP was saying he couldn't do. I actually think that the whole leave-a-voicemail thing is better, because it gives her something to associate you with that much more easily. Everybody sends texts, but the two of you leaving a voicemail together creates a fun little story she can associate with you, and thus a higher level of attraction and comfort.
/r/seduction05/12/11 05:30 PM
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I think you're missing the point. If your phone is dead, there's no way to put her number in it. Hence why you should make sure it's charged.
/r/seduction05/12/11 05:24 PM
2

Yeah, but why bother with the "how's it going?" if you can just go straight into the "have you seen this band before?" "How's it going" is a low-investment, low-risk move, but because of that it's also quite beta. You're taking a bigger risk just jumping into the conversation, and if you can do it with enough confidence, you come across much more attractively.
/r/seduction05/12/11 07:28 AM
2

When he said "it's worth reminding the newbies on occasion [that number closes aren't the be-all-end-all of pickup]... Probably could have used some more tact, though", I think he was saying that more tact could have been used in that reminder—rather than snarkily saying "here's my phone number etc".
/r/seduction02/12/11 06:46 PM
3

I think STV was saying that roxxe could have been more tactful, not me. :) I did try to be tactful about it, but I don't think STV was calling me out in the first place.
/r/seduction02/12/11 06:32 PM
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Would it have been better if I'd said f-close? Yeah, numbers don't mean a thing, but don't make the assumption that that's all I've gotten. My original point is still valid; you didn't have to bring in the negativity.
/r/seduction02/12/11 03:40 PM
14

I'm a fat guy and I've gotten several hot girls' numbers. While I wouldn't pretend that it would be easier if I were thin, it's still not exactly the hardest thing in the world.
/r/seduction02/12/11 06:26 AM
2

Honestly, I don't see anything at all wrong with "I want to fuck the living shit out of you," especially if you've already gotten her into a sexual mood by leading the conversation there. I know some women for whom that is an enormous turn-on.
/r/seduction01/12/11 07:02 AM
7

Don't bring it up again. Keep doing what you're doing. You will only increase the connection between you and her the more time you spend and the more you sleep together. Besides, sounds to me like you're already in a sort of relationship. Just work on strengthening it, but don't be concerned about the label just yet. It seems to me like that's what bothers her more than anything else.
/r/seduction29/11/11 03:42 PM
2

I don't think so. The guy came in here with the express intention of calling us all stupid for thinking that pickup material works. He was rude and condescending, and to top it all off, he was wrong. The LEAST he needs to get is a public berating.
/r/seduction29/11/11 03:28 PM
1

Telling a girl you want a relationship is an immediate ticket to the friend zone. I didn't say telling a girl you want a relationship; I said start the discussion. That's not the same thing. I'm not talking about confessing your love or anything like that; I'm talking about starting the discussion. Telling a girl what you want from her is hardly AFC. You're talking about being misleading, which is not what pickup is there for.
/r/seduction29/11/11 05:55 AM
3

Why would you want to see pictures of my filthy apartment?
/r/seduction28/11/11 10:16 PM
1

Ha! I feel good that I did this with my FR today. :)
/r/seduction28/11/11 09:49 PM
1

Depends on what you ultimately want from her. If you want to be in a relationship with her and you want that sooner rather than later, then maybe it's time to have that discussion. But it could simply be, too, that she wants some way to know that you don't think of her as just any girl. It seems to me that you're headed in the right direction with her, so as long as you're sure of your own intentions and you proceed with that in mind, you'll be okay.
/r/seduction28/11/11 09:43 PM
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You've said before that you want to be in a relationship with this girl. Be VERY careful when you say things like "I don't want to do anything you aren't ready for, but I won't wait forever," because what this is going to say to her is that you value sex more than her desire to hold off. That's not to say that you can't stress that you do want to have a sexual relationship with her, but if you do try to show her later on that you want a relationship, she may end up with mixed signals, especially…
/r/seduction28/11/11 09:24 PM
2

Instead of 'should I do x?', it could be 'if i did x, would i be happier?'. Instead of 'what should i say', 'what would i be happiest saying?' etc... etc... it would take care of a lot of personal insecurities that continually crop up. This shit should be put on the sidebar.
/r/seduction28/11/11 06:30 PM
2

I think the only real reason it would be easier to game people who are closer to you (if you're not an underwear model) would be simply that it can be easier to talk to girls that you're not intimidated by. I think this tends to go away as you simply get over AA and you realize that all women react similarly to a straightforward and genuine approach.
/r/seduction28/11/11 05:45 PM
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I see what you're saying. I think it wasn't so much that I wanted her to be happy with it as much as I wasn't happy with it, and that bothered me on a personal level—I would prefer my apartment to be clean and presentable regardless of who comes into it, and it wasn't, and that bugged me.
/r/seduction28/11/11 05:42 PM
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Okay, I see where you're coming from. I guess taken from that perspective I can certainly understand what you're saying. I guess I was speaking more in terms of the ideal and not thinking so much about the specific. I guess, in a way, we're both right. ;)
/r/seduction27/11/11 02:11 AM
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You're awfully one-dimensional about that word. Like I said before, it's about doing something fun that you enjoy while ALSO making a good impression. The two aren't mutually exclusive, you know. As for why he didn't just go to a recipe website, maybe he was looking for stories from other people who might be able to relate what he was asking about to real-world situations. Also, for the record, that pork roast recipe I wrote further up has TOTALLY gotten me laid, though it was in the context of …
/r/seduction27/11/11 12:40 AM
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It's not about needing to cook something. It's about wanting to be able to do something fun that you enjoy and make a good impression while doing so. You're cooking just as much for yourself as for her, after all; why not make it something fancy once in a while? Just because you can get away with making ramen noodles for her doesn't mean you have to do that. If you always view things as "how much can I get away with by doing the least amount of effort", you're spending too much time thinking abo…
/r/seduction26/11/11 11:18 PM
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Pork roast Ingredients 2-3 pound pork roast (a pork loin will work as well, but a roast is better) 8oz Celery stalks 3-4 Carrots; or 1 pound baby carrots 1 large white onion 1 pound small red potatoes Process Preheat your oven to 500 degrees. Chop up the celery, carrots, onions and red potatoes and put into a large casserole dish. Season liberally with kosher salt (several pinches sprinkled around the veggies). Take the pork roast and season with kosher salt and pepper on all sides of the roast.…
/r/seduction25/11/11 09:39 PM
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Yeah, the biggest problem I see with most of the comments I saw in that thread is that all women will say that something is creepy, or that a certain type of guy is creepy, or whatever—until they encounter the guy that isn't. That one girl who was talking about the old, moneyless guys that try to pick her up at the supermarket while she's working... Man, all I wanted to do was say "Uh, yeah, you say that old ugly guys hitting on you at the supermarket are harrassing you... But if it was a young,…
/r/seduction16/11/11 06:52 PM
3

And you're obviously not reading what I'm saying. For starters, you don't know me, you don't know the successes or failures I've had with women, and you can't seem to stand that I'm making very simple statements that conflict with your worldview. I asked how an increase in testosterone HELPS YOU PICK UP WOMEN. There's no proof that it does. None. There's also no proof that the amount of increase after a week of not masturbating is at all significant. A 47% increase over 1 is only 1.47, whereas a…
/r/seduction16/11/11 04:56 PM
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Oh for fuck's sake. CALM THE FUCK DOWN, DUDE. For the last time, I'm not attacking you, so don't make this personal. There's no proof whatsoever to show a connection between an increase in testosterone and an increased ability to hook up with someone. None. So again, I ask, what does not fapping actually DO to help you pick up women?
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:22 PM
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I didn't downvote him. Why does everybody assume that when you challenge somebody on a topic, you have some personal vendetta against them? I merely asked for clarification on whether he was saying something anecdotally. Cool your jets. Anecdotal evidence is by definition nonscientific. I already disproved him on one of his points—specifically, that appetite control can be achieved by not fapping, since I personally don't get hungry after an orgasm. If that one point can be defeated by a single …
/r/seduction16/11/11 02:09 PM
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No, I don't feel an urge to eat after an orgasm. And I wasn't attacking you or anything, dude. I just think that if you're going to make declarative statements, you should have something to back them up is all.
/r/seduction16/11/11 01:40 PM
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I'd be willing to accept these kinds of statements if there were any citations to back them up. Why would somebody have more energy and more appetite control if they stop fapping? And why once a week at most?
/r/seduction16/11/11 12:28 PM
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Do you include a question mark in this situation? If you want to avoid that dilemma, don't phrase it as a question at all. "Hey, I'm going out for drinks tonight with my buddy. You should come, meet me at 9:30" If she can't do it or doesn't want to, she'll let you know. But that's how you avoid the beta "would you like to do me the favor of being seen in public with me"-ness of asking her out on a date.
/r/seduction14/11/11 09:33 PM
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It's converse. Conversate is a word that comes from people thinking that it's the verb form of conversation. The root verb is converse not conversate. While technically true, conversate is a backformation that has become if not standard usage, then common in informal usage. Language grows and changes, and there are many backformations used today that are considered standard even though they weren't originally: words like "edit", "donate" and "pea", for example. http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.c…
/r/seduction14/11/11 12:22 AM
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True, but again they are just trying to make a living Yeah, which is why I didn't make a big deal out of the fact that she was obviously trying to game me. It's just the way it is when you go to those places. Literally every single girl I talked to tried to get me into the back for a lapdance, because that's where they make their money. But it couldn't have been more obvious that they didn't give a shit about me whatsoever, and I was just a potential meal ticket for the night. Turned me off to t…
/r/seduction13/11/11 04:59 PM
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It's funny that you mention the typical things a stripper will do for you, because I was invited to a party at a strip club a week ago and I found it hilarious how much I was treated like a piece of meat to these girls. It was like homeless people: you make eye contact and they think it's all right to just come over to you and touch you all over. This one girl caught my eye, walked over to me and started touching me, saying "Hey, I haven't seen you here in a while," and I wanted to say "Yeah, th…
/r/seduction13/11/11 07:55 AM
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It seems to me like "You passed" wasn't a conscious anything, it was that she forgot her water, he reminded her about it and she said that as a compliment, is all. Like when you let a girl into the passenger seat of your car and she leans over to unlock the driver's side door before you get to the other side.
/r/seduction12/11/11 08:33 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/seduction08/11/11 11:09 PM
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Most of my friends are women, actually. It comes from the days of when I was a raging AFC. But I don't see anything wrong with it, not by a long shot. It's really just that I miscalibrated my actions with this particular girl. It's hardly the end of the world, but I'm already past it and as CurveBall said, she'll just need to get over it.
/r/seduction08/11/11 08:35 PM
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I knew she had a boyfriend, and he knew I knew. I don't think he was necessarily out of line talking to me about it. I've never been a fan of saying things like "you and I are gonna have problems," but all he did was talk to me about it. And I'm glad he did, because I was able to reassure him that he has nothing to worry about. I don't owe him anything, but that doesn't mean I want to create unnecessary issues, either.
/r/seduction08/11/11 07:34 PM
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Yeah, you have a point there. I just feel like my lack of proper calibration led to this, not her misunderstanding.
/r/seduction08/11/11 06:39 PM
1

Absolutely. If you do that for that long, she'll think you're not interested and you're just stringing her along.
/r/seduction07/11/11 07:43 PM
1

Yep. She's either playing ridiculously hard to get or isn't interested. In either case, the answer is the same: Next her.
/r/seduction06/11/11 08:26 PM
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The way I see it, if she's happy, then you did fine. Good for you.
/r/seduction06/11/11 08:12 PM
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I have introduced myself to more women and gotten more phone numbers in the last six months than in the previous twelve years. I have this subreddit to thank for it. And if you think I've done it by being fake, you have no earthly clue about anything. I've been more myself over the last six months than I ever was before. I was even talking about it with a couple friends last night. This one girl and I got on the topic of pickup material, and she started talking about how fake and contrived it al…
/r/seduction05/11/11 06:27 PM
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Something tells me you don't know Tofu very well.
/r/seduction05/11/11 06:17 PM
1

Maybe you didn't disqualify yourself I was going to suggest this, too. It seems to me that if a girl lets you walk her home and then doesn't invite you in, the chances are pretty likely that she's trying not to appear slutty to you. After all, the walk home is a good, traditional end to a date, and if she thinks you might be boyfriend material, she'll want to appear wholesome to you. It's all very Mayberry. My suggestions would be to more heavily disqualify yourself before you leave the bar, and…
/r/seduction04/11/11 07:31 PM
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She also seems to neglect an important fact: Sometimes, you can meet a girl who has no interest in meeting new people, and you can make her GLAD that she met you. "Wow, I wasn't coming out with the intention of meeting an awesome guy, but I did anyway." Sounds to me like what she's really talking about is that when she goes out for girl time, she doesn't want chodes approaching her and wasting her time. I'm sure that if the right guy came along, she wouldn't have a problem ditching her friends f…
/r/seduction03/11/11 08:44 PM
1

I don't, unfortunately. I don't hang out in clubs much, so dance-floor game isn't something I've had to deal with. Maybe somebody else can provide something.
/r/seduction03/11/11 08:19 PM
1

Haha! I will say that I definitely don't see any real problem with being utterly direct. I just don't know as if it would really be as much fun, y'know?
/r/seduction03/11/11 08:06 PM
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I am neither Asperger's nor autistic, and I have not suffered "serious burns at the hands of a guy". I wasn't suggesting either thing, merely giving an example of the kind of vibe I get from you. I'm glad that things have gone so well for you, but you're clearly a statistical outlier.
/r/seduction03/11/11 07:20 PM
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I commend you for trying to get out there, and for being fearless in your approaches. Here are a couple things that popped into my head as I was reading: Approaching a woman from behind is never a good idea. If they don't see you coming, you will surprise them and immediately will be put into the creepy category. I think you probably sensed this. Conversely, a head-on approach—walking straight up to her and getting in her face—will put up her defenses, as this makes her feel like you're confront…
/r/seduction03/11/11 03:47 PM
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You know, I'm going to try really, really hard not to make this sound insulting, but after reading several of your comments in a few threads, I get this weird vibe from you, like you've either suffered some serious burns at the hands of a guy or you're low-grade Asperger's/autistic. Don't get me wrong, I have ZERO problem with sex positive women. I think there need to be far more of them. But don't you think that walking up to somebody and saying "Hey, want to come back to my place for sex?" eve…
/r/seduction03/11/11 05:42 AM
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I dunno, CurveBall seems like good people to me. He and I have never gotten along anything but famously,and I've been doing a fair amount of contribution over the last few months.
/r/seduction03/11/11 04:43 AM
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If you spilled my beer on me and then used me as a means to make yourself look more "alpha" in front of a girl, I'd break my vows of nonviolence and I would kick your motherfucking teeth in. What a fucking absolute dick move. A true alpha would be willing to admit his mistakes when it matters. "Yo, sorry I made you spill your drink, man. Let me buy you another." THAT'S being alpha.
/r/seduction02/11/11 09:12 PM
2

Why separate it out? They're both useful material for PUAs, and you should be reading them both anyway if you want to continue improving.
/r/seduction02/11/11 05:39 PM
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Absolutely. I've found that being absolutely blunt like that (which I learned from The Jeffy Show) and saying "Hey, who are you, what's your name?" works wonders. It catches a girl off guard just a little bit and because of that, I think it blows right through bitch shields.
/r/seduction31/10/11 08:20 PM
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You can't read her mind—you can only act on the responses she gives you. So if she wasn't going to say no in the first place, you have no way of knowing. The alternative is to ask her permission for everything you do, and that's even sillier. It's your job to show her you're interested. It's her job to accept or reject those actions.
/r/seduction26/10/11 07:20 PM
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Sounds to me like you're the one luring yourself into oneitis, not the girl. What do you do when a girl wants an LTR and you don't? You move on. She's obviously not the girl for you, so don't assume that you can break down the barrier or work around it—the appropriate response to this is "next."
/r/seduction26/10/11 02:13 PM
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You're missing the point entirely. The point isn't to TRY and make her say no—the point is not to say no to yourself before you even give it an attempt. You make the effort and if she doesn't want you to do that, she'll tell you.
/r/seduction26/10/11 01:49 PM
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You need to absolutely own it. I'm not saying you make a big deal out of it, but you can't send any signals whatsoever that you're embarrassed by it. When somebody asks me what I do, I usually just tell them I'm a Professional Geek. If they press, I tell them that I do IT support for <company> and they usually nod and say an "ah" of recognition, and that's it. They might ask me a couple questions about what it's like (they always seem to be impressed and jealous that I get to work entirely from …
/r/seduction25/10/11 09:14 PM
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The value of the music I am enjoying is priced into the drinks I bought. Incorrect. The price of your drinks would not have changed if there was no band playing there that night. Like I said, the venue should have charged you a cover for the band, but don't think for a second that their drink prices have anything to do with what the band is getting. Was he a dick for saying something to your date? Sure. But that doesn't make you right—it just makes you both wrong.
/r/seduction25/10/11 09:02 PM
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Yeah, sorry man, but I kinda think you were a bit of a dick here. I would prefer that with a show at a club, they charge a cover, but you were enjoying the band. Getting cheesed because the guy was asking you to help support the band whose music you were enjoying is a bit dickish.
/r/seduction25/10/11 05:26 PM
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You might not have been able to do anything about this in the first place. Short of being rude, you couldn't have prevented her from coming with you, and there's even a (probably small) chance that the other girl you were with signaled to her friend to come along as a lifeboat. Also, a small programming note—a point of order, if you will: I'm politely asking that when there are questions like this that, while certainly not of an AskSeddit nature (this one clearly falls into the /r/seduction guid…
/r/seduction24/10/11 08:59 PM
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"Assume attraction" doesn't mean "look for any little positive sign and run with it," though. It means that if she gives you a signal and you aren't sure whether it's a friendly signal or an attraction signal, assume the attraction signal and proceed, and she'll correct you if you're wrong. Once she corrects you, you don't just assume that she's playing hard to get. This is not a "no means yes and yes means anal" situation.
/r/seduction24/10/11 08:52 PM
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*cough*CALLHERINSTEAD*cough*
/r/seduction24/10/11 08:36 PM
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And they would be chasing after you because you were so aloof and mysterious.
/r/seduction24/10/11 05:48 AM
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I think you have entirely the wrong attitude about this subreddit. Seddit is about helping others. When somebody writes a story like this, it's not because he wants to feel better about himself or make other people think more highly of him—it's so he can show, in an entertaining way, how other people can get the same results. Yeah, it's a little on the campy side, but it's well written and it's done in a way that I think earnestly shows other people how they can think about themselves and maybe …
/r/seduction24/10/11 05:47 AM
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Honey badger don't give a fuck! "Thanks for the treat, stupid!"
/r/seduction24/10/11 05:44 AM
1

Most people would say "it needs to be done" instead of "it needs done." EDIT: To get geeky about it, in most languages, when you have two verbs, one right after the other, the second is always in the infinitive form. So you would say "I need to go (verb, infinitive form) to the store later," or something similar. "Need" isn't necessarily a great example because it's a helping verb, but I can't think of anything else at the moment.
/r/seduction23/10/11 06:58 AM
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I'm sure he was saying sweetie and is just a poor speller.
/r/seduction22/10/11 11:35 PM
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According to the Grammar Girl podcast, it ranges as far west as Iowa, so maybe it goes a little further west than she found it did. At any rate, I just thought it was a fun quirk to learn about.
/r/seduction22/10/11 05:08 PM
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Phrases like "needs done" or "need updated" (instead of "need to be updated") are almost always from a regional dialect thing from central PA. It's actually got a name—"Pittsburghese." It has the unique quality of being a type of phrase that if you grew up hearing it, you don't think there's anything wrong with it, and if you grew up outside that region, you think it's one of the most wrong things you've ever heard. It's one of those little things that I geek out over, that's all :)
/r/seduction22/10/11 03:48 PM
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Things on the website that need updated Out of curiosity, are you from central Pennsylvania?
/r/seduction21/10/11 08:39 PM
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It kind of saddens me that you live in a world where the only reason you could think of for wanting to improve oneself is that it'll bring the "pussy" to you. Pickup Game is not about anything more than providing a set of social dynamics by which we live, or by which we should be living. There is a set structure for how we interact with other people in virtually all circumstances: Meet a new coworker: you shake their hand, introduce yourself, maybe answer a few questions about what you do for th…
/r/MensRights20/10/11 09:49 PM
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I think that nothing can be a substitute for critical thinking. But just like /r/Science, where I'd be more likely to listen to somebody who was an expert in his or her field, I'd be safer in assuming that somebody who has flair in this field is going to give me advice that has some degree of validity to it. I've seen people here an in AskSeddit who give advice that other people have had to literally warn against, because they thought they knew what they were saying—when in fact, the tried-and-t…
/r/seduction17/10/11 07:27 PM
1

We kind of eyed each other as I was coming in, one of those "I know I should know you" looks. I was giving it to her, she was giving it to me. When she asked about the photography thing I did mention that she looked hella familiar and I felt like I should know who she is. That was how the interaction started, at least. It was pretty funny, because we both recognized each other but couldn't figure out from where. (She added me as a result of my photography; I think we hadn't actually met in perso…
/r/seduction17/10/11 05:46 PM
1

Four years ago most of us were absolutely hopeless AFCs. Give the guy a break—once he realized he was playing the game wrong, he assumed it was too late for this particular girl because he was already FZ'd by her.
/r/seduction12/10/11 06:04 PM
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I completely disagree with you. You did not fuck up. Steve fucked up, and he did it big time. For him to go after this chick after you told him that you hooked up with her is simply beyond the pale. Horrible friend.
/r/seduction09/10/11 09:26 PM
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all you'll get is an awkward kiss followed by "Woah, I don't want to risk our friendship." "You can't ruin a friendship with sex! That's like trying to ruin ice cream with chocolate sprinkles."
/r/seduction07/10/11 04:23 PM
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Mystery is a very accomplished magician/illusionist and uses magic and sleight of hand in his pickups all the time. So I'd say yes, it's absolutely possible to use this to generate attraction or DHV yourself.
/r/seduction07/10/11 12:48 AM
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Sounds to me like it isn't that you don't want to be friends with those people, but rather that you're more worried about what people will think of you if you are friends with those people. I was one of those kids who everybody knew in high school. I wasn't "popular"—far from it, in fact, I was a band a chorus geek—but I was involved with a lot of the activities in the school and everybody knew me. I was on good terms with most, geeks and jocks alike. Let's put it this way: It's been almost fift…
/r/seduction05/10/11 04:14 PM
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When I realized I couldn't find her, I gave her my full name (MUCH less common and I should have thought of that to begin with) and suggested she add me. Nothing so far, which is one reason I'm not getting my hopes up, but as you said, at least I was able to hook her in the first place.
/r/seduction03/10/11 08:48 PM
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Approaching more will help to get rid of the AA. I know you've probably heard that many times, and it seems counterintuitive, but you need to get some rejections under your belt, buddy. The more you get shot down, the more you realize it just isn't a big deal, and the more successes you have, the more confident you'll be that you can succeed again. So there's really no down side to approaching as many women as you feel like.
/r/seduction03/10/11 07:02 PM
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Problem is that Long Beach is a three-hour drive for me, so that isn't really something that can happen. I doubt anything will come from this (I tried adding her on FB, but without friends in common and her having a fairly common name, I can't find her at all), but I figure it can't hurt to text her the next time I'm going to be down there (I don't go down there very often, though). For me, it was more about the act of being able to get the number, and being able to recognize the IOIs and stuff …
/r/seduction03/10/11 06:12 PM
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Even better than this is not to bring up the question at all. When the check comes, you simply say "What's my stuff come to?" as if you're doing regular bistro math. It's that same kind of attitude you take when you go out with your friends and the check comes.
/r/seduction03/10/11 01:57 AM
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I think it's quite unfair to say this. We approach women based on whether we find them attractive or not; isn't it a little hypocritical to expect women to do otherwise?
/r/seduction01/10/11 10:10 PM
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Statistically, you have about a one in one thousand chance of catching HIV from any one episode of vaginal intercourse with a woman, without knowing whether she has it or not, and that's a worst-case scenario. You should be far more worried about a condom breaking and getting her pregnant than getting HIV from her, because those odds are way higher. That's just vaginal intercourse, though. If you do what-what in the butt, the odds go way up because it's much more likely that you'll have blood in…
/r/seduction27/09/11 06:09 AM
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I was literally going to say exactly the same first sentence that drumdance wrote. The thing is, she'll only be awkward if you are—that's what it means by "if you let it be awkward." Yeah, she may be a little awkward at first, but the fact is that if you are really outcome-independent and you don't care (and honestly, you shouldn't care) whether she says yes or no, then she has no reason to feel awkward about it, because you simply aren't making a big deal out of it. If she says no, shrug it off…
/r/seduction26/09/11 03:58 AM
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A girl walks to you and tells you that you're hot and you answer that "she's alright"? If it's said in a comparative way, then absolutely, it's insulting. But it would be totally cool to say "Hey, you're all right!" like "Hey, you're cool" or "Hey, I like this girl!" Kind of in a buddy-buddy way that lets her know you're being playful. But yeah, given the way that OP framed this, it was definitely the wrong thing to say and it was not the time to neg. For the record, OP: A neg is when you're try…
/r/seduction22/09/11 10:14 PM
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You really need to ask yourself why you have no self-confidence. This is about Inner Game, but beyond that, what do you see as so wrong with yourself that you have no confidence in yourself? Obviously you're an intelligent guy who has at least a modicum of game, so you need to do some serious self-analysis to figure out why that's not translating to a means of being comfortable around people. You need to be honest with yourself: What do you see as wrong with you? Whatever those things are, do yo…
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:05 PM
1

I dunno, something like 27,000, I think.
/r/seduction20/09/11 04:54 PM
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My last girlfriend had a problem with it up until she mentioned to me that she had a problem with it. My reaction was "Really? Interesting, because my understanding is that women are hornier during their period, and if you're wearing a tampon, it's soaked up most of the blood anyway, so it's not like it would get everywhere or anything. Hell, it'd even provide more lubrication." She thought about that and realized that I was right, and it was never a problem again. Yeah, occasionally we'd get a …
/r/seduction20/09/11 04:20 PM
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I did once kiss someone I didn't want to kiss That wasn't what I asked. I asked if there was never a person you originally didn't want to kiss and then later DID want to kiss. I can see that with the dangling participle you might have been confused; apologies. Notice that in my previous post, I didn't say anything about asking twice more. I actually would recommend that again, if for no other reason than it gets predictable and old after you ask even one more time (which I'm still not sure I wou…
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:23 AM
1

Care to explain why? How many women have you picked up with your technique?
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:06 AM
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You've never been in a situation where you didn't want to kiss a guy at first, but later you did? I didn't realize that when you make a decision, you make it for eternity. The point of the kiss gambit is that you're trying to gauge her reactions. You built up some comfort and hopefully some attraction, and then you try to see if she's interested. If not, you build it up some more before you try again. It's not like it's a static thing where he's just saying "Are you ready now? How about now? Now…
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:03 AM
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You MUST GET SEXUAL, sooner rather than later. As you feel that she's starting to build a rapport with you, you need to start throwing sexual comments, jokes, etc. in as soon as possible. From the very start, she needs to know that you are a sexual person and that you view her as such. If you don't, you can build up all the comfort you want, and you're only going to get steered into Friendzone territory. The distance between "sex partner" and "LJBF" is narrower than you think. In short, if she d…
/r/seduction20/09/11 12:41 AM
1

I think you're missing my point. I like where I live. I have friends here and it's a good town, for a number of reasons. Moving isn't out of the question, but the problem isn't where I live (well, a little bit) but rather what I could change about myself or what I'm doing where I currently am, in order to make the best out of it.
/r/seduction20/09/11 12:26 AM
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Right, because there aren't things like, y'know, logistics, costs, apartments, etc. that have to be taken care of. Perhaps what I should have said was "I wish I knew how to make more use out of this smaller city." Maybe then I wouldn't have gotten platitudes as responses.
/r/seduction19/09/11 10:23 PM
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Don't think of it like that. Yes, you want to be seen as having high value. The ways you can demonstrate high value are things like: You're friends with a lot of people and they want to be around you. You don't bother getting to know anybody unless they seem worth your time. You have good social skills and know how to hold a conversation without seeming like you're promoting yourself. In the case of the neg and how that works itself into the situation: It's not that telling her about yourself is…
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:33 PM
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Oh, I wasn't saying that the post doesn't belong there—I wouldn't have bothered commenting if I believed that. I was saying that there's a lot that people should be doing in addition to reading comments, and they're pretty unlikely to do so, based on the level of commitment they've shown already. Yeah, it's a blanket statement, but I think that if you can't even show the initiative to read the introductory stuff, you're already showing that you aren't ready to get into this kind of game. But the…
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:27 PM
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The third one actually works best, believe it or not. If you've managed to approach and open her and have even the most basic rapport going on, you can use that line and she will immediately start qualifying herself to you. "Well, I'm good at such and such, and I work as a blah blah down at the local boutique, et cetera et cetera et cetera." Once she does that, she'll already start seeing you as higher-valued, because you didn't have to give her any information about yourself, and she started vo…
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:18 PM
1

I managed to become an extradordinary pianist without taking much in the way of lessons, and I never practiced. Doesn't mean that other people wouldn't become just as good or better by working hard at it every day. I have an idea: How about instead of berating people for whom this isn't easy (such as myself), you help contribute, if you're so much better at it than other people?
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:15 PM
2

The point is that we go over this shit on a weekly basis, and if some guys out there miss that point, they are crazy. Or, they aren't doing their homework and want the "easy" way to pick up women. In other words, they wouldn't have made very good PUAs in the first place, because they aren't willing to invest the time to truly understand the potential weapon they have in their hands anyway. They're basically the equivalent of the guy who shoots himself in the foot because he doesn't understand wh…
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:29 PM
10

Uh, I gave one in that first post. "Wow, that's cute, did you know that your nose wiggles up and down when you talk?" She'll go "What??" and you can then say "Oh look! There, it happened again!" Another neg that you can use is if you're talking to a girl and she doesn't introduce her friends to you (this is straight out of Mystery's method), you can gesture to her friends and say "Hey, introduce me to your friends—it's the polite thing to do." You can then say to her friends "Wow, you can dress …
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:19 PM
37

I'm always amazed at the number of people who study PUA who think that negs are meant to insult, even lightheartedly. The reaction from any neg should be immediate laughter. A girl is not supposed to think you were subtly trying to insult her, she's supposed to perk her head up and say "Hmm. That's not usually the kind of comment I get. Who is this guy?" When a guy says something like "Oh wow, that's really cute—did you know that your nose wrinkles up when you talk?" her reaction is curiosity, b…
/r/seduction19/09/11 02:33 PM
1

I think (and I could be wrong here) that doing a push-pull at this stage could backfire for you. You want to build comfort here so that she doesn't have a problem being alone with you, not to make her question whether what she did last night/time was the wise course of action. If you push her away now, you may only strengthen her resolve that it was a mistake to go even as far as she did with you. You want to do the opposite: convince her through comfort-building that she shouldn't have question…
/r/seduction18/09/11 02:32 AM
1

I'm honestly not sure what the correct course of action would be here. If you change plans to have her come to your place, you'd better have one damned good reason for it besides just "I think it'd be better here." She'd see that coming, I think. If you can pair the dinner activity with something like "we could watch a movie afterward without any distractions," that might be okay, but I'm not really certain. The other alternative is to go to her place, have dinner, and then try to bounce her bac…
/r/seduction17/09/11 06:49 PM
2

I ask, “You are not going to invite me up?” Next time, instead of saying that, ask to use her bathroom. It'll give her an excuse to let you in that doesn't trigger ASD, and you're already there, so going back to her room isn't that big of a deal.
/r/seduction17/09/11 06:18 PM
1

"Oh, I feel so bad about what we did last night! So bad, in fact, that I'm going to put myself right back into a situation where I know it's likely to happen again! Oh, the shame." She wants it. She just doesn't want to say that she wants it. She wants OP to take control of the situation so that she has the ability to say that it wasn't her, that she didn't mean to do it, it just happened.
/r/seduction17/09/11 06:10 PM
0

Your realisation is not true; it's mostly true because most relationships are shit, but in other cases the relationship is strong and the guy is not sick of her shit. He's not talking about a relationship with a guy, necessarily. It's an old joke, but it is important to remember that no matter how awesome a person is, somebody hates that person, for whatever reason. Every person has that one nagging habit they do that's annoying, or that thing that gets on your nerves. Finding somebody amazing i…
/r/seduction17/09/11 05:59 PM
8

Your realisation is not true; it's mostly true because most relationships are shit, but in other cases the relationship is strong and the guy is not sick of her shit. He's not talking about a relationship with a guy, necessarily. It's an old joke, but it is important to remember that no matter how awesome a person is, somebody hates that person, for whatever reason. Every person has that one nagging habit they do that's annoying, or that thing that gets on your nerves. Finding somebody amazing i…
/r/seduction17/09/11 05:58 PM
1

Wow. I don't even know how you can both save face and save face for your wing in a situation like that. Anything you say in your own defense will come across as beta behavior, and will hurt your wing's standing—though, to be fair, he's a shitty wing if he would say something like that about you. Perhaps the smartest thing would have been to reply with "I literally just woke up to this text and I have no idea what you're talking about," but I'm completely in the dark here and for that reason am p…
/r/seduction17/09/11 05:50 PM
1

premature ejection I can't read this phrase without snickering.
/r/seduction17/09/11 05:02 PM
3

From my point of view, she has shown no negative indications that she actually wanted you to leave True, but he left her wanting more, which is always the proper method. And she snapped right up on the opportunity to chase. Just because you CAN continue talking to a girl doesn't mean you should drive that opportunity into the ground by extending something past where it needs to be.
/r/seduction16/09/11 05:50 PM
2

Yeah, be careful, because that can (and most of the time does) come off as needy. After all, why should you care if she missed you? You've got girls banging down your door.
/r/seduction14/09/11 08:43 PM
2

My last girlfriend was a virgin, and did nothing but thank me (even/especially after we broke up) for "awakening the beast" in her. If every virgin you've been with has been crazy, think about the fact that the only common denominator between them has been you.
/r/seduction07/09/11 02:41 PM
2

I'm almost twice your age. I couldn't even use you as a wing to help me with college chicks. ;)
/r/seduction06/09/11 10:49 PM
2

It's shit like this that makes me wish I lived in a place with a lair, or even close to one. Apparently, sedditors don't like eastern Connecticut. ;) Great FR, man. Not only did you have some killer wings, but it sounds like you really worked your learning curve and adapted on the fly, which is a skill that not that many guys have.
/r/seduction06/09/11 09:47 PM
1

The biggest problem with the "get drunker" theory is that a lot of people tend to think that if a little makes them feel good, a lot will make them feel great and then they'll be great with their game, when it has a real point of diminishing returns. If you want to stay in control, I would say no more than a few. The last thing you want is to be slurring your words around women, or even worse, you manage to get a girl home and then can't perform. ;)
/r/seduction06/09/11 05:48 PM
6

I suggest you go find some torrents of VH1's "The Pick-Up Artist." I started watching it because I thought it would be a good way to watch some pickup happen and see some basic reaction from Mystery on how people acted. It turned out to be a really good way to see how guys who were absolutely clueless could use Game to help their lives. It had the added benefit of showing me that I can study Game all I want, but it's all useless if I don't put it into practice. It was also nice to see a 280 poun…
/r/seduction06/09/11 05:46 PM
3

And carrying the rear, "nice" is about the worst one you can get. "Nice" is what they say when they can't think of any other friendly adjective.
/r/seduction06/09/11 04:08 PM
1

While I agree that this is a possibility, I don't think it was the case in this particular instance. I'm awfully close to it, so it's hard for me to say with any real degree of accuracy, but it seemed to me that there was plenty of comfort and plenty of attraction... it's just that her head games got in the way before any of what I was putting forth did. I do appreciate the comment though, and it will definitely be something I look for in the future.
/r/seduction06/09/11 05:32 AM
2

One thing that I've really been told over and over again over the last couple weeks has been to always assume attraction. I had the advantage of getting those IOIs recently from this girl, but I had the disadvantage in that I was already friends with her, and that can be an absolute crash-and-burn. Hell, I'm still not safe with her, and I will definitely need to escalate attraction and seduce if I want to progress, or we'll revert. But part of what helped me last night was the fact that I assume…
/r/seduction05/09/11 12:09 AM
0

This bothers me. You feel perfectly justified in taking something without giving anything in return for it, even when that thing gives you a lot. I believe in paying for what I get, especially when I'm using a product that I stand behind. I would absolutely want to pay RSD for their work, but when it costs that much, I'll just have to pass.
/r/seduction04/09/11 01:55 AM
4

Much as I would love to, I have a LOT of other things I could be spending six hundred bucks on right now.
/r/seduction03/09/11 06:00 PM
2

Actually, in a way, I would, because I know I'm not, and thus it's most likely a shit test. Shit tests, I can deal with, but not ambiguity.
/r/seduction02/09/11 07:15 PM
1

In other words, though, we just have to be able to tell which one they mean? Still sounds like something I wouldn't want to hear.
/r/seduction02/09/11 07:02 PM
6

Well, it's a bad thing in that it's a shit test. But if she actually believes you're "so sweet" or "so cute", then it means she thinks of you like a kitten, instead of a tiger.
/r/seduction02/09/11 04:49 PM
1

No kidding, and it only took me thirty-two years to get it. :) Better late than never, right?
/r/seduction01/09/11 01:22 AM
2

This. I'm 5'10", 255 pounds, and when I started changing my attitude toward myself and realizing that I was my biggest obstacle to meeting and approaching women, everything changed for me. I've always been able to talk to women, but getting them to see me as an attractive person never, ever happened. After reading seddit for a little while I suddenly came to realize that it was all in how I saw the situation, not how other people saw me. And that was literally the day that I started behaving dif…
/r/seduction31/08/11 10:40 PM
3

LOVE number three, primarily because it's a very subtle way to let her know that you stopped paying attention, yet it's so ridiculous and funny that she can't help but giggle at it.
/r/seduction22/08/11 04:09 AM
1

I am absolutely 100% going to use this line in the future. What a friggin' brilliant way to turn a situation around.
/r/seduction22/08/11 04:04 AM
5

I keep them in the front pocket that's not carrying keys in it. In my case, that's the pocket with the cigarettes and the lighter.
/r/seduction22/08/11 02:47 AM
5

Drop the big words. Don't believe this for a second. Speaking intelligently is never a bad thing. The key is to make sure that people don't think you're using big words to show off. But don't think that you need to dumb yourself down in order for people to like you more.
/r/seduction22/08/11 02:44 AM
2

Finally, this: I usually have to fight to acquire basic human respect. This isn't true at all in my experience, and it's completely the wrong attitude to approach others with. I suspect you've been mostly fighting against yourself. Agreed. Respect isn't something that you should have to fight for. It generally comes part and parcel with accepting yourself and being cool with it, in my experience. I found that the more I respected myself, the more others respected me. In fact, I would say that th…
/r/seduction22/08/11 02:42 AM
1

Honestly, this question would better be served by /r/sex or /r/askseddit than it would here. To actually add to the subject matter, though, I will say that generally, I've found that women tend to like it more if you tease them with your mouth and your tongue than if you just go at it barrels blazing. Just like anything else with a woman, if you start small and work your way up, you tend to get better results. A short teasing kiss, soft and leading into the next one, then building up, will get h…
/r/seduction21/08/11 06:46 AM
5

Where do you get this idea that I'm moralizing? First of all, you're completely misinterpreting what I said. I wasn't talking about quitting a job, and especially not quitting under unusual circumstances. When my father gives interviews for new applicants, he asks when they can start. If they're currently employed and they don't say something along the lines of "Well, I should give my current employer some kind of notice," then he knows that they'd do the same to him. But no, instead you come an…
/r/seduction30/07/11 05:57 PM
1

I'm guessing the latter. I don't know where they got off telling her father that you were trespassing—if she wanted you there, you weren't trespassing.
/r/seduction29/07/11 07:48 PM
7

This has very little to do with slut shaming. In fact, he's not even making a reference to her promiscuity or lack thereof, not at all. He's simply saying what my father (an HR director for 20+ years) says about people who won't give their current job two weeks' notice before starting a new one: if they do it to their current employer, they'd be willing to do it to me, too. Somebody who is willing to cheat isn't a slut—she's just somebody who doesn't place a whole lot of importance on honesty or…
/r/seduction29/07/11 07:46 PM
17

I think OP is asking which character in a movie is an ideal PUA example.
/r/seduction27/07/11 10:58 PM
1

Actually, when I saw your post, I thought it would be a good name for an anonymous seddit account. I've had several seddit-related posts that I've wanted to make but didn't want to use my main account for it, so this was just the presented opportunity.
/r/seduction26/07/11 10:35 PM
5

I can never tell...
/r/seduction26/07/11 07:43 PM
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