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Don't obsess over what is going to come out of your mouth. It literally doesn't matter what you say, it's how you say it. Get her attention. Smile. Speak slowly and confidently, with a low sensual voice. Don't rush it. You have all the time in the world. When you do your first 10 approaches, you will notice you speak way too fast, you ask too many questions, and you don't allow pauses to exist naturally in the dialogue. Allow pauses to exist. Slow wayyy the fuck down. Be casual and chill. Most o…
/r/seduction23/03/21 04:47 AM
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I feel you man. You can totally (but not easily) fix the shitty job and overweight situations, just hard work and determination can fix both those things. But also please try to look at the positives of your current situation, I'm sure there are many, and that you have many advantages over other men, because this is a hierarchy and we're all in the middle except very few of us at the top or bottom. It's totally a numbers game, and it will get easier and easier as you improve yourself more and mo…
/r/seduction23/03/21 04:41 AM
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Doesn't matter if you're after just sex or a relationship, women want to feel a connection either way. I'm not sure how much you've done this, but not to brag or anything just to back up what I'm saying, I've done at least 1,000 approaches, and what I've learned, that a lot of other guys can back me up on, is it's fucking easy to get numbers. Every girl LOOOOVES giving out their number to any smooth-talking guy who approaches them. But they aren't going to text you back, and if they do, they are…
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:58 PM
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Hard disagree, but context is super important. If you are in the suburbs, where usually there's 1 person walking on the sidewalk per mile of road, you are absolutely insane to approach a woman walking alone. But if you are in the bustling downtown square of a metropolis, where there are thousands of people hanging out, 95% of the women you approach on the street are going to be way down to vibe with you. That's how I meet most of my girlfriends. Nearly every woman I approach I get into a 10+ min…
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:55 PM
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You should get her number shortly after "peaking" in your vibe. For instance, with my current girlfriend, we were vibing about both being musicians, and I was saying "we should jam sometime" while I handed her my phone for her to enter in the number. Personally, I never ask for their number, I just say "we should <do thing>" while I hand them my phone, and they always put their number in. If they protest, just tell them to put in their Instagram or whatever, but that's not a good sign. It may be…
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:50 PM
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You have the right mindset, man. The first few times that I left my house to go downtown or to the mall specifically to approach women, it was so scary and nerve-wracking, and it showed. I could easily number close, but the numbers were cold because I wasn't truly connecting with women, I was rushing through the interaction, and I was outcome-obsessed rather than being truly comfortable in my own skin and self-amused. Look at it this way.. nobody becomes a professional skateboarder without break…
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:46 PM
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The way I started was, every Saturday morning, I would drive to the local busy shopping mall or the busy downtown streets, and I would walk around and strike up conversations with people. All kinds of people, not just women, and not just women I'm interested in pursuing romantically. Eventually, most of my approaches focused on hot women, but in the beginning I would talk to everyone to get good practice just vibing with people. The first few times you do this will be nerve-wracking. That's okay…
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:29 PM
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The best advice I can possibly give you, is to literally not think at all when you approach a woman. Don't obsess over what is going to come out of your mouth. It literally doesn't matter what you say, it's how you say it. Get her attention. Smile. Speak slowly and confidently, with a low sensual voice. Don't rush it. You have all the time in the world. I have no idea what I'm going to say before I say it, and that's an amazing thing, it makes what I say very genuine and personalized to her. Usu…
/r/seduction20/03/21 09:35 PM
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Dude, women are not going to like you walking up and asking them to hang out, that's insane, think about it. When you approach a woman, the goal should be to connect with her and vibe with her as deeply as possible for as long as possible. I usually vibe with a girl for 10+ minutes, then get her number, then vibe with her for at least a few more minutes before I go. I don't pressure her to hang out, none of that shit, I focus entirely on making a connection with her to ensure that she'll be thin…
/r/seduction20/03/21 09:28 PM
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I don't know why people are downvoting /u/IcarusBane1, he's absolutely right. All of the flirting I do with women prior to my cock being inside of them isn't overtly sexual, it's almost entirely subtle / covertly sexual. I do a lot of touch escalation during the approach, and during the 1st date, and I bring them home on the 1st date, but I don't say anything overtly sexual until after we've fucked. If you are sexual before you've had sex, it shows you as a player and most high value women are n…
/r/seduction20/03/21 09:25 PM
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I'm sorry man, but women are just as receptive to touch escalation as they have ever been. If a woman is seriously so worried about covid that you aren't touching each other, that's a dead end IMO. Absolute deal breaker. You'll never be able to make her wet with just your words the way you can so easily with touch.
/r/seduction20/03/21 09:21 PM
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First of all, everyone's broken dude. Nobody is perfect. All women, especially hot women, have been sexually abused, often their entire lives as far back as childhood. Confident, self-assured, independent women are often already in committed relationships. You have to date a lot of women to find the really high value ones. I've dated extensively both via apps, night game, and daygame, and daygame by FAR gives me the highest value women. My current girlfriend, there's no way I could have ever eve…
/r/seduction20/03/21 09:17 PM
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I've daygamed extensively in all manner of places, and the best places to pick up women are where they are casually walking around, or "hanging out", like: Downtown streets Parks Shopping malls Beaches Coffee shops Libraries Book stores Town squares Concerts Events Hiking trails etc. I live in an average American city, and I see maybe 50 amazingly hot women in a 3 hour walk downtown, and I just approach as many as I can in that 3 hour window, which is usually about 10 since sometimes the convers…
/r/seduction20/03/21 09:05 PM
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In fact, not only are all his points valid for all kinds of daygame, but grocery stores (and other places women are shopping "on a mission", not just browsing) are by far the absolute worst places to daygame. I've daygamed extensively in all manner of places, and the best places to pick up women are where they are casually walking around, or "hanging out", like: Downtown streets Parks Shopping malls Beaches Coffee shops Libraries Book stores Town squares Concerts Events Hiking trails etc. Grocer…
/r/seduction20/03/21 08:51 PM
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I agree he is cringe-worthy at times, however his approaches are direct, and authentic, and respectful. Studying his approach, his pre-frames, and his authenticity can inspire you to appear in the world in your own authentic way. He makes real connections with women, he's not just trying to get his dick wet, and that makes him a breath of fresh air in the sleezy disgusting PUA community.
/r/seduction20/03/21 08:46 PM
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Hey John, I'm just going to be blunt with you my friend, that's really not a good mindset to have. When I go out to do my 10+ approaches every week, my mindset is that I'm an amazing person with a lot to offer to the right girl, and I'm looking for a REAL connection, not just sex. When I stop a girl, I'm stopping her for something unique about her that I find extremely attractive, like the way she carries herself or her style. I'm not just telling her she's cute, I'm expressing genuine attractio…
/r/seduction20/03/21 08:36 PM
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Software engineer turned semi-professional seducer here. Before I learned how to approach women, I was extremely successful in every area of life, including having very attractive girlfriends, but I was deeply depressed and miserable. After forcing myself to learn how to approach, to the point where I can teach other engineers how to do it, my lifelong depression is completely gone, and the abundance of good women in my life was absolutely the missing piece I needed to be a complete and happy ma…
/r/seduction19/03/21 06:43 PM
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Well, I approached my current girlfriend at her job in the mall over a year ago, and we've been happy together ever since. Before that, I was approaching maybe 10 girls per week, and going on dates with 1 or 2 of them each week. I like going on a couple of dates with hot girls every week while I'm single, because I have to date a LOT of girls before I find one I want to get into a long-term relationship with. Sometimes I'm only single for a week, sometimes for a month or longer. I live in a city…
/r/seduction18/03/21 06:08 AM
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It's a huge fucking shame that TNL took down ALL of Liam's videos. Anyone know wtf happened?
/r/seduction12/03/21 07:16 AM
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Only approach women IRL who show initial attraction to you through flirting. I approach every woman who I find extremely attractive. Most haven't yet laid eyes on me when I approach, and it works out wonderfully for me. So I respectfully disagree.
/r/seduction12/03/21 07:13 AM
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Bro, just start seeing other girls, you have a crush on this girl and there's no reason to stop seeing her, you just have to respect that she doesn't want you as her man. So enjoy having amazing sex with an amazing woman, while you continue to date other women until you find your girlfriend.
/r/seduction12/03/21 06:59 AM
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Or you could calm the fuck down and relax, and try her again in a couple weeks. I regularly sleep with hot girls who flake on me by pinging them a while after the flake. I lose nothing, and gain some of the most mind-blowing nights of my life by not being so black and white about everything in your life. She's not going to get back to you if she's a hot girl. It's on you to keep pinging her.
/r/seduction16/01/21 04:12 AM
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Good advice. Also, the overwhelming majority of men greatly prefer women with small breasts. This is why most underwear models (like Victoria's Secret angels) are A cups and B cups, and only a small minority are C cups and D cups.
/r/seduction04/01/21 01:03 AM
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Okay, check it out. When most women go to the grocery store, or the post office, or the mall, they are "on a mission" and they just zoom around grabbing the things that they need and getting out as soon as possible. Don't be that woman. Instead, be aware of your surroundings, SLOW DOWN, and be open to others around you. Let me give you an example: you're in the produce section, picking up fruits and vegetables. Move slowly and methodically, be aware of others around you. And if you're attracted …
/r/seduction03/01/21 11:16 PM
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Don't overthink it. Research "kino" and "touch escalation". On the first date, always meet her with a hug. When she makes a joke and you laugh, put your hand on her arm as you respond. When you tease her, put your hand on her arm or her shoulder. When you guide her through a door, place your hand on the small of her back. When you get up to lead her somewhere, take her by the hand. On the first date, make sure you pick a venue where you know it will be easy / not awkward to sit side by side, not…
/r/seduction08/07/20 05:21 PM
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Several of these points took me a lot of trial and error to learn. Definitely important stuff for guys who are already good at approaching and getting first dates, but have a hard time keeping the woman interested across multiple dates.
/r/seduction06/07/20 08:59 PM
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When I first started out, I wasn't getting very good results. It's just like playing an instrument or skateboarding, the more you do it, the better you get at it. Within a few weeks of doing it consistently, about 50% of my approaches would at least number close. Maybe 5 - 10% were instant dates. If I get 10 numbers, I probably convert 2 of them into dates depending on how strong the initial connections were. Women LOVE giving out their phone numbers, but they will only actually date you if they…
/r/seduction06/07/20 04:54 PM
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Fair enough. May I recommend - instead of being playful and ending the interaction, when a girl says she has a boyfriend, continue the interaction and try to close her. You can ask her questions, like how satisfied she is with her relationship, how long they have been dating. If it doesn't sound too serious, tell her you should take her number and you can stay in touch in case things change. As long as I'm light-hearted, respectful, and playful like you said, I can usually number close a girl wh…
/r/seduction04/06/20 05:24 AM
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"Asked for her number and she said she has a boyfriend. Reminded her of her loss and off we go" Jeeesus fucking christ you sound like an asshole.
/r/seduction03/06/20 11:37 PM
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That's cool man, I can't wait for the country to open up so you can get out there and experience abundance! My routine goes like this: Wake up in the morning, shower, shave, put on a really nice outfit. Look good, feel good. Drive the 20 minutes into downtown, and park anywhere close to busy streets. Start walking around, smiling at people, saying good morning, being jovial and happy. The better your vibes are, the better your results will be. Do my first couple of approaches. Only after my firs…
/r/seduction27/05/20 04:34 PM
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Being a virgin is no different than having acne or being short or poor or any of a million other "flaws" that men can have. If you are self-confident and don't give a fuck, women will be attracted to you. If you are worried about it, women will not be attracted to you.
/r/seduction07/05/20 06:25 PM
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You should always be dating multiple women until you make one your girlfriend. You shouldn't make a girl your girlfirend until you've been dating multiple women for quite some time, so you learn what you like.
/r/seduction07/05/20 06:23 PM
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It's simple, really. As soon as the world opens again from this coronavirus mess: Approach every single woman you are attracted to, and then authentically and genuinely express your desire and start a conversation. Women absolutely love this. I've been doing this for the past 2 years, and I will never go back to online dating. The caliber of women I'm dating now is off the charts. My past 4 girlfriends have all been models (in addition to scientists / engineers / etc.) - there is no way in hell …
/r/seduction07/05/20 06:22 PM
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Wow, cool story bro
/r/seduction27/04/20 11:18 PM
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Why is the title of your post "Is there anything wrong with my opener" if, when I tell you what I think is wrong with your opener, you just reply "nope, it's good, fuck them if they don't like it"? Also, why split hairs and get all anal about me calling your schtick a "line" when you yourself called it an "opener"?
/r/seduction20/04/20 11:54 PM
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Your approach is completely wrong. For in-person it's an absolute cringe-fest, because it's acting like she's your friend already. You need to study / read about pre-frames and frames. You're also putting the onus on her immediately, you're basically saying "hey, you pick the fucking conversational topic, because I'm too lazy and uncreative to think of one". Women hate that. You approached her, you better get the conversation started and not make her do it. Because 99% of the time, she won't. Wh…
/r/seduction20/04/20 11:32 PM
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Bro, you're a good looking guy. I'd even say I'm more feminine looking than you, and I have great success with women. I'm telling you, after this coronavirus thing is over, you HAVE to get out and do at least 50 approaches. Don't do 5 approaches and stop because they all sucked, keep going. I guarantee if you do 50 approaches, you will start to get amazing responses from women. You have to do 50, because it takes a while before you get comfortable enough with it for the women to feel comfortable…
/r/seduction15/04/20 04:22 PM
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This post is about a specific person, so you're in the wrong subreddit bro. Ask questions about a specific person to http://reddit.com/r/askseddit
/r/seduction15/04/20 04:18 PM
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Hey man. I'm a really feminine dude, and I do really well with women. Feminine men actually have a huge advantage for cold approaching. When I approach a woman in public, she isn't intimidated by me because I'm not a huge, burly, masculine dude. I'm not threatening in any way. So the initial approach / ice-breaker is cake. This makes it much easier for me to cold approach, so I approach women every time I'm in the grocery store, the shopping mall, walking around downtown, etc... This works extre…
/r/seduction15/04/20 04:15 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Rateme/
/r/seduction08/04/20 09:53 PM
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You need to stop caring what other people think. First of all, I've done hundreds of approaches and have never once had a woman reject me in a way that others would have noticed at all. BUT - even if others would have noticed a rejection, who gives a fuck? I'll never see any of them ever again, and they'll never see me. Stop giving a shit what other people think, or you will never have social freedom.
/r/seduction25/03/20 10:23 PM
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You sound like a moron in so many ways: Your grammar is terrible. ("not do for doing"???) You think getting laid is an achievement. Anyone who values sex over a real connection with women is actually the monkey here. You state that approaching is not a good tool for getting laid, which is absolutely ridiculous.
/r/seduction25/03/20 10:21 PM
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She probably just has a boyfriend. It's a lot harder for girls with boyfriends to plan things ahead of time. Either way, she just isn't that into you. Girls who are into me never pull that shit.
/r/seduction25/03/20 10:13 PM
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I was only using the term "model" to mean I'm dating extremely high-value, attractive women. They aren't all literally models, though many of them are.
/r/seduction25/03/20 10:02 PM
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Success is for the action takers. Exactly! Imagine the OP's post in a skateboarding subreddit.. the only way to get better at skateboarding is to improve yourself in other areas of your life?! Fuck that! The only way to get better at skateboarding is to skateboard!
/r/seduction25/03/20 10:00 PM
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This is stupid. The only "rule" that is at all acceptable here would be a 0 second rule. You shouldn't even think before you approach. Giving yourself any leeway at all is a surefire path to letting your ego play tricks on you. Get the fuck out of your own head and talk to the people around you.
/r/seduction23/03/20 07:42 PM
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When I game on a university campus, I can usually do 4 approaches per hour. Same when I game the busy streets downtown. I do 2 or 3 approaches every time I go to the grocery store, which I do a couple times per week for fresh veggies. There's so many hot girls in boutique health food stores like Whole Foods. I sometimes go to shopping malls just to approach, and I can do a few per hour there as well.
/r/seduction20/03/20 06:39 PM
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All of my girlfriends have been way hotter than me.
/r/seduction18/03/20 11:03 PM
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Exactly. I'm in the tech industry, and I know tons of rich, good looking, healthy guys who are dogshit with women and so they just date whatever ugly, low-self-esteem girls they can get on Tinder. Meanwhile, I'm an average looking dude and my girlfriends are models, because I do 20 cold approaches per week, every week of my life. Approaching trumps EVERYTHING, self improvement is masturbation. Becoming some "self improvement" monk / hermit is not going to make you better with women. In fact, it'…
/r/seduction18/03/20 03:57 PM
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Set it to "Don't delete chats for 24 hours", then after a discussion, go back through and tap each message to save it. I do this all the time, and girls don't give a shit, this way all messages are permanent
/r/seduction10/03/20 02:18 AM
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100%, Jack Denmo is the man. It's all about having fun! Daygame should be fun! He just fucks with girls and has a good time, and if it works, great and if not, great. :)
/r/seduction10/03/20 02:15 AM
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Shopping malls, coffee shops, parks, hiking trails, busy streets downtown. Anywhere that hundreds of beautiful women are walking around. :) If you don't live in a major city, move to one ASAP. You are missing out.
/r/seduction09/03/20 07:10 AM
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lol bro, 6.5 is not a height, it's an attractiveness score. It means I'm not attractive, that I'm average looking. I'm not hot. I am real, you can ask me any questions you want.
/r/seduction09/03/20 06:14 AM
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Yep. I only do daygame now, and I'm dating 9's and 10's. There's no way in hell I could date these women through Tinder. The quality of women you meet will be way better if you just walk up to them in person, and stop trusting your love life to a bunch of software engineers in silicon valley.
/r/seduction09/03/20 06:13 AM
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Hey man, I think you have the wrong mindset. I'm an average looking dude. I'm a 6.5, I've submitted my photos to be rated. I regularly date 9's and 10's, I've dated a couple of fashion models and several instagram models. There is absolutely no way in hell I'd be dating these women if I approached them through Tinder or Instagram or any other app. There's no way they would swipe on me or respond to me. I'm dating them because I had the balls to approach them in person and authentically expressed…
/r/seduction09/03/20 06:08 AM
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Hey man, so you're at an intermediate level now and you can tell that numbers don't mean shit, women love giving out their numbers. And you've probably figured out you need to make a much stronger connection and impact in-person in order to get numbers that lead to dates. Here's another tip for you. If you feel like she's really into you and you're vibing strong, don't do this. But if you feel like she's a little lukewarm, then try to qualify her. It works like this.. When you go to get her numb…
/r/seduction03/03/20 04:53 PM
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The most important thing is that after every single approach, you scrutinize every moment of it again in your head. What did you do right? What did you do wrong? What should you have said in response to that one thing she said? What could you have said to tease her, to make her feel more comfortable? My first 30 or so approaches were dogshit, but I kept calibrating and adjusting and doing science on them. Now, 99% of my approaches result in blushes and smiles, it's always positive. Don't be disc…
/r/seduction02/03/20 05:06 PM
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I'm glad that you're getting out there, pushing your comfort zone, and beginning to see results. I don't want to discourage you, but most of us who are successful at daygame average 20 approaches per week, every week of our lives. Anything less than that and you won't see improvement and results. It's just like skateboarding or anything else - if you only try to kickflip 7 times per week, you're not going to get good at it anytime soon. Another thing to keep in mind is that women love giving out…
/r/seduction02/03/20 04:56 PM
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She's probably going to flake after the 6 hour drive, but you should still go for it. If she actually shows up, try to sit next to her rather than across from her, like on a couch or at the main bar. Break the touch barrier early, and then touch her frequently throughout the date. Use lots of eye contact. Speak slowly and confidently. Relax. Change venues after an hour if you can. Touch her while changing venues: put your hand on the small of her back, hold her hand, kiss her. After 2 or 3 bars,…
/r/seduction01/03/20 02:29 AM
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Don't. That's stupid. Never like / comment on girl's pics. You're supplicating to her, providing her with a free ego boost, in return for absolutely nothing, jack shit. I regularly date hot women, and I'm an average looking guy, and there's no way they would ever get with me from sliding into their DM's or commenting on their shit. They get with me because I confidently walk up to them in public and express my desire authentically like a man. Using apps for game is a fool's errand, unless you ar…
/r/seduction01/03/20 02:26 AM
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Thanks so much for your advice, it's really helpful! She told me the relationship really ended to her months ago and she's totally over it, but just has moments of sorrow that come and go. I even think maybe she was lining me up as a replacement, since we've been kinda seeing each other for 4 months now? I don't know, it's all super confusing. Anyway, thank you again for your advice. I hope to give her all the no-strings-attached-cuddles she needs.
/r/seduction28/02/20 05:19 AM
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I'm sorry for your recent loss. I also don't really want an open relationship, but I love this woman and I just want her in my life as much as possible for as long as possible. She said she would have committed to her man if he only moved in with her, but he wouldn't do that. She said she gets into relationships with men who don't really want her. I can't understand him, I think she's the most amazing woman I've ever met, and I date a lot. I think I'm going to follow your advice, and tell her ho…
/r/seduction28/02/20 05:10 AM
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You should be excited at the prospect of talking to and connecting with the hot girls who come into your workplace. Be professional, don't take it too far, just be very friendly and on the borderline of flirting, until it's reciprocated. Basically let her take the lead on taking it further into overt flirting, but offer her the opportunity. You're allowed to be a human and flirt with your customers. You just have to be WAY more calibrated and use your social intelligence, sharpen it, so that you…
/r/seduction28/02/20 05:01 AM
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Hey man, I think you hit the nail on the head, unfortunately. Women love to keep men around to stroke their own ego with no intention of taking things further. I have boundaries that I set for myself. Texting is nothing more than a tool that I use to build comfort, and then - very quickly - set up a date. I only build as much comfort over texting as necessary to set up the logistics for a date. This is really important. I get most of my girls through daygame, so I've already established a sexual…
/r/seduction28/02/20 04:56 AM
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sounds like "re-framing", where you take something she said and frame it like she's asking you out Not sure what 1. is called but great technique, it's playful and teasing
/r/seduction28/02/20 04:48 AM
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Dude, you absolutely hit the nail on the head. Abundance requires just that - streets pulsating with hundreds of thousands of people bustling around, so that you can hit the same exact downtown neighborhoods again and again and have a fresh crop of strangers each time. It's like anything else in life - I'm a software engineer, and if I want to get paid what I'm worth, I have to live in big tech cities. I'm also a seducer, and if I want to have abundance, I have to live in a big metropolis as wel…
/r/seduction22/02/20 03:18 AM
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100%. I struggled with the same things. A coworker once told me "wait, you approach women in the grocery store? Do you realize how obnoxious you're being?" I didn't approach for a month afterwards. But eventually, it dawned on me. When I approach a woman, I always do so respectfully, to express my desire genuinely, in an authentic search for love and connection. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, I'm an asshole if I don't approach. She's walking by, looking gorgeous as fuck, a…
/r/seduction21/02/20 04:56 AM
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Hey man, I resonate a lot with what you're saying. You are a lot like me, and I can tell that it's important to you that you take your love life and sex life seriously. That's a great thing to be taking control of, and you have the right mindset to get it done. I don't care if you just signed your lease, you have to move to a city where you can do daygame regularly. The quality of women that daygame produces is way beyond that of night game, when it comes to consistency and continuing to date th…
/r/seduction21/02/20 04:31 AM
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Just ask her out for coffee, it doesn't matter. At all. You not asking her out is wayyyy more awkward than you asking her out. Girls can tell that you like them. If you ask her out and she's into it, cool. If not, cool. You should just ask out every girl you're attracted to as soon as possible, and stop making a big deal about it. The more you make a big deal out of it, the more nervous you are. The more nervous you are, the more nervous you make her.
/r/seduction21/02/20 01:39 AM
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I agree with /u/ilikepie145. Don't follow her on IG. Ask her out, it's no big deal. If she's into it, cool, If she's not into it, also super cool because there are plenty more women out there. You gotta get to the point where you just ask out every girl you're attracted to, without overthinking everything like this.
/r/seduction21/02/20 12:01 AM
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Yeah he's licking his mouth wayyyy too much o.o
/r/seduction20/02/20 07:03 PM
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Whenever possible, you should always stop from the front, head-on, with no angle. I used to always do the side-approach walk-with, and my results have been much better since I circle around girls and stop them head-on. It's way more confident, and they respond much more positively to it. But I agree with you, sometimes starting with a walk-with and then transitioning to a stop is more natural. If you walk with her, the goal is always to stop her within a minute or two, to control your frame and …
/r/seduction20/02/20 07:02 PM
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Totally agree. Sometimes after a break up, I luck out and meet my next girlfriend after 3 approaches. But more often, it's 100+ approaches and several months.
/r/seduction18/02/20 05:11 AM
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I think people are downvoting you because you're saying the truth, but you're doing it a little condescendingly. But what you're saying is true - if you're going out specifically to approach, 20 per night is a much more realistic number than 4 per night. 50 per night is only possible if you aren't spending enough time with the women to make a real connection, IMO. (Then again, you are "STD Tyler", haha..) 4 per night will get you nowhere unless you're very lucky.
/r/seduction28/01/20 01:21 AM
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Why do you say that? I seduced two amazing girlfriends in my first 100 approaches. Cold approach is, by FAR, the best usage of time of anything I've ever done in my entire life, in terms of pleasure gained per effort expended.
/r/seduction28/01/20 01:13 AM
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Yeap, fake it 'til you make it! Totally agree. One has to simulate having an abundance of options, until one actually does. Nothing is more needy than a man who doesn't have many options.
/r/seduction25/01/20 03:11 AM
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I think you should go out and do daygame. Do cold approaches and strike up conversations with girls in public, and close every single time. Once you have a solid habit of closing in daygame, you'll be more confident closing with girls in your social circles.
/r/seduction22/01/20 02:01 AM
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Ah I gotcha. Yeah totally agree with you, that initial attraction and preselection are huge. No cleverly crafted text is ever going to recover a flakey hot girl if you didn't build that initial attraction in the first place. She'd have no reason to respond
/r/seduction19/01/20 02:33 AM
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What are you talking about bro? I spend maybe 30 seconds sending each text, you're acting like I'm putting monumental effort into pursuing these women. I don't. And yes, these anti-ghosting and anti-flaking texts only work if you vibed with them and built a real connection and attraction in the initial approach, which I always do
/r/seduction19/01/20 02:27 AM
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+1 to everything /u/drdavidbanner20 just said in his post to you. I'll add this.. don't be discouraged because you don't get results when you pursue 9's and 10's. Most of them are just as picky as you, if not pickier. You're not going to be most of their type, unless you're super attractive. I'm not, so I have to pursue a lot of 9's and 10's. It's a serious numbers game. Be confident, be authentic, be RESPECTFUL. Be yourself. Pull the trigger, touch her, escalate. Express your desire authentical…
/r/seduction19/01/20 02:12 AM
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What do you mean she "isn't worth it"? If I didn't use anti-ghosting and anti-flaking strategies to build attraction, I'd never sleep with 9's or 10's. And I wouldn't trade any of these amazing nights with these women for the world, they mean everything to me. And they always tell me how happy they are that I persisted. Why do you see the energy I put into getting them into my bed as a waste of time?
/r/seduction19/01/20 02:07 AM
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Dude, I could write an entire book on anti-ghosting and anti-flaking strategies, it's an extremely nuanced subject. That wasn't the purpose of my post, and I never claimed it was. My post was simply saying to stop telling guys not to try to recover ghosts or flakes, unless you want to miss out on lots of sex, because MOST of the 9's and 10's I get with ghost me multiple times before they are in my bed. That's all I'm saying. If you think it's bragging that I have to employ all these tactics, I h…
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:57 AM
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No. I'll never be a sugar daddy, I don't like that concept at all. Any time I take a girl out to dinner / coffee / drinks, I always offer to pay. If they never offer to help, that's a dealbreaker for me personally, it means they take me for granted. I don't continue seeing them in that case. But most of the girls I date are fucking awesome, they're happy to offer to split it. That's all I need is the offer, I never take them up on it. I don't take girls expensive places. Just hiking or bowling, …
/r/seduction18/01/20 06:17 PM
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If a girl blocks or unfollows you, she's obviously not into you. But just because a girl doesn't respond to your text doesn't mean she's not into you. Again, most of the extremely attractive women I've been with flaked on dates or ghosted me (didn't reply to a text) multiple times before I seduced them. Chances are, she just forgot to reply to your text, or she was busy and didn't want to turn you down, or a million things, who knows. Just always assume she's into you. Let's say you're texting b…
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:55 PM
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Let's say you're texting back and forth with a girl, and the last text you send is: "Haha okay, cool. Hey let's grab coffee @ <place> tomorrow. How does 3pm sound?" And she doesn't reply. Wait a few days, and then invite her to something fun you're going to with or without her. Parties / dancing / clubbing is great for this. "Hey! A bunch of us are going to <party name> at <club> on Friday, we're usually there by 10pm. You should come out, it's a great time!" If you genuinely don't have anything…
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:42 PM
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Totally agree. And I agree with most of the points you made in your OP as well. I do want to emphasize this for anyone reading though - Awesome, she seems pretty interested, giving you faster replies, laughing, emojis, very good long healthy conversation. That's a bad idea, IMO. Don't converse / vibe over text. Texting is just for setting up dates, vibe in person. (OP is basically saying the same thing, just double emphasizing!)
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:19 PM
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I wasn't trying to promote my post by linking to it, but since you said you want to read it, here it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/eq99te/dealing_with_flakey_hot_girls/
/r/seduction18/01/20 08:47 AM
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It's funny that you just posted this, because earlier today I made a post explaining how I sleep with flakey / ghost-ey girls pretty regularly by using anti-flake / anti-ghost tactics. To put it bluntly: if every time a girl turned cold on me, I were to "just let her go and move on with the next one", I would have missed out on SO many amazing nights of passionate sex. Hot girls have so many options and they're super busy with them, so you need to be persistent and wait your turn. But don't be a…
/r/seduction18/01/20 08:44 AM
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I do daygame in the downtown shopping area of a very large metropolis. Anywhere with lots of high fashion stores and boutique coffee shops tends to be bustling with ridiculously beautiful women. A lot of guys tend to only approach "realistic" women, but 9s and 10s tend to be WAY more approachable. They smile more, giggle more. They're just way more receptive to that kind of encounter. Plus you can express your desire more authentically - and women LOVE authenticity - because you will genuinely b…
/r/seduction18/01/20 08:36 AM
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I appreciate your nuanced approach, and thanks for being up-front about the fact that you're an attractive dude. Personally, I'm super super picky, and I tend to have the occasional dry spell as a result. It's an intriguing concept, that one can relax their standards to avoid such dry spells. I should probably do that, because I do have needs that aren't being met when I'm being so picky. I agree, one has to leave their ego at the door to spin high value plates effectively. You gotta be willing …
/r/seduction18/01/20 08:28 AM
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This guy fucks! 100% agree. Patience and gentle persistence pay off for hot women who have tons of options
/r/seduction18/01/20 04:59 AM
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I convert flakes / ghosts to lays / girlfriends all the time. Here are some relevant comments of mine on this subject: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/eode6p/the_biggest_lesson_ive_learned_in_game_put_in_a/fecl3qb/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/eode6p/the_biggest_lesson_ive_learned_in_game_put_in_a/fecgo57/ Yes, you're right, I am too outcome dependent I think. I'm going to have to work on that.
/r/seduction18/01/20 02:44 AM
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Not only do I convert ghosts to lays, MOST of my hot girlfriends / lays ghosted me one or more times early in the seduction. Here are some relevant comments of mine on this subject: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/eode6p/the_biggest_lesson_ive_learned_in_game_put_in_a/fecl3qb/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/eode6p/the_biggest_lesson_ive_learned_in_game_put_in_a/fecgo57/
/r/seduction18/01/20 02:38 AM
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Hey dude, great video. Totally agree with your concepts. They're actually super Buddhist if you think about it. Buddhism is all about freeing yourself from attachments. You cannot have a healthy relationship with a woman if you feel an unhealthy attachment to her. The exercise where you describe meditating on her being gone permanently, is the same kind of meditation I practice with everyone I know (family, friends, etc.) to actively let go of all of my attachments in this world and embrace true…
/r/seduction18/01/20 01:12 AM
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No dude, this post is me telling you that in order to bang them, I have to: Endure annoying / bad behavior Play shitty games Be extremely patient Strategize carefully with other men to figure out how to convert flakes to dates This is NOT pleasant, and it's nowhere NEAR brag-worthy. If I could bang them without doing all this shit, THAT would be brag-wrothy.
/r/seduction18/01/20 01:04 AM
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Hey dude! I used to have really good success on OkCupid and Tinder, but was almost always dating 6's and 7's on there. About a year ago, I deleted all the dating apps from my phone, and started going out to public places (downtown, malls, etc.) to approach women. Since then, I've only slept with 9's and 10's. A lot of the super hot girls I'm dating tell me they've never used a dating app in their life, and the ones who do say they fucking hate them. It takes a lot of grinding to get good at appr…
/r/seduction18/01/20 12:55 AM
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That's really interesting, and I totally understand your logic. However, the hot women who I convert from flakes to girlfriends or fuckbuddies, I usually converted using strategies that I collaborated on with other guys from this forum and my tribe / friend group. So at least for me, I regularly ask for advice on flakes, and then develop a strategy, and it works. Again, I HATE this process, but it totally works! So I'm going to keep helping people with flakes, and I hope you keep helping me. :)
/r/seduction18/01/20 12:50 AM
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Dude, just daygame her. It's easy. Approach her, get her attention, compliment something about her. Lead it into a conversation, and vibe with her for a few minutes. Once you've been vibing, tell her you think she's super pretty and would love to take her out for coffee sometime. It's going to be SUPER easy to get into a convo - you go to the same school and even have the same teacher. This is the same as literally any other daygame approach.
/r/seduction18/01/20 12:44 AM
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If a ghost replies to a ping but doesn't agree to the date, I'll try again in 3 - 5 days. If she doesn't reply, I'll try again in 5 - 7 days
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:45 AM
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You can ping her and ask her out once a week for quite a while actually. Sometimes girls will hook up with me a month later, it only takes a few seconds to ping
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:39 AM
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Haha, you obviously didn't read my post, did you? I said I meet up with the girls and we confirm the texts were missed. And then we move to WhatsApp or whatever. Happens all the time
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:38 AM
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Hey dude, no it's not luck, I convert ghosts to girlfriends / lays all the time. Let me hit you with a mindset: always assume she's into you, and never give up unless she explicitly says to stop or if she stays ghosted after like 4 or 5 pings. If a girl ghosts, I'll usually send her a ping. That is, a text inviting her to something fun. I'll ping her every 3 - 7 days, just going by feel. If she replies to the ping but doesn't agree to the date, I'll try again in 3 days. If she doesn't respond at…
/r/seduction14/01/20 04:36 AM
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Totally agree, thanks for sharing! I have a relevant story: One of the first 10's I approached gave me her number. I was able to set up a first date, which was awesome because so many numbers flake on me. The whole date, I had no idea if she was into me. I would try to escalate with touch, but she wouldn't really reciprocate, so I'd back off each time. At the end of the date, I leaned in to kiss her, and she subtly turned her head away. So I played it cool, wished her a good night, and figured s…
/r/seduction14/01/20 03:44 AM
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Interesting, thanks for sharing. Honestly, I think you must be SUPER charming if you approach women as a stranger and they are touching you within that first interaction when you aren't touching them. I'm not being sarcastic either, I believe you that it's happening. You must be so good at all the other elements of vibing that they engage with you physically first.
/r/seduction14/01/20 03:34 AM
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Let me address some things you've said in this thread already: Women who ask men out aren't hoes. The only people who say that are morons. Most men love when a woman asks them out, whether or not they want to date her. It's not a good look to be telling guys to cut their dicks off. You seem like an angry, hateful, vengeful person. If you don't agree with someone, don't stoop to their level. Just ask him out, it's not a big deal. There's no reason you can't stay friends with someone who you asked…
/r/seduction14/01/20 03:30 AM
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First of all, don't ever give a fuck what other people think. Don't listen to anyone on this forum who says that he's not into you because he looks away and stutters. Those are just as likely to be signs he IS into you. The dude might be shy. Nobody here could possibly say. Just talk to him and ask if he wants to grab a coffee sometime. Don't make it complicated. Nobody gives a fuck if you ask someone out to coffee, that's all in your head. Just do it confidently, and don't care what his respons…
/r/seduction14/01/20 03:24 AM
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I first learned from watching infield videos on YouTube of respectful men approaching women. (Men like Sasha Daygame and James Marshall). Then, I did dozens of approaches myself. Once you master the basics by learning from other men, the women themselves become your ultimate dating coaches. Every approach, I learn something new from the set I'm interacting with. I always try to improve after every approach, by analyzing it carefully in my mind. You'll quickly be able to identify your own mistake…
/r/seduction14/01/20 03:17 AM
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Those are definite IOIs, and you should have approached her. Personally, I approach every woman I'm attracted to, whether or not I think she's giving me IOI's. I've hooked up with amazing women who gave me no IOI's before I approached them. One fun way to open her since you kept catching her looking, would be to walk up to her and say: "Excuse me, I saw you checking me out. (Pause and smile here, build some tension before continuing) You look like someone I'd like to meet, too. I'm Wonderingrock…
/r/seduction14/01/20 03:12 AM
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No offense, I'm not going to downvote you, but do you even do cold approach? I've never had a woman touch me first during cold approach. Usually I've already touched her quite a bit before she touches me at all. And I'm pretty well experienced. The man has to lead the touches 99.9% of the time.
/r/seduction14/01/20 03:07 AM
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First off, get out of your head. Don't look for opportunities to touch, because then you aren't really listening to her and you won't feel as present. Instead, learn and remember a bunch of appropriate times to touch, so you don't have to think about it. I'll give you some examples of how I touch a girl: If I compliment a girl on her shirt, I'll lightly caress my fingers down her waist as I do it If I crack a joke and the girl laughs, I'll gently squeeze her arm or shoulder and be like "No I'm s…
/r/seduction14/01/20 01:22 AM
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I just started approaching a year ago in the USA, and I've had fantastic results. 98% of the women I approach are all smiles and blushes, regardless of whether or not they're into me. They're always thankful I did it. And I travel all over, from major city to major city. Women are very receptive to approaches everywhere. Just improve your approach, and always be respectful and authentic, and you'll see the same, I guarantee it.
/r/seduction14/01/20 01:16 AM
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Yeap, I quit all the dating apps and have done nothing but daygame for the past year, with huge success. The quality of women I'm dating is way higher than it's been in my entire life. Sasha's fucking crazy, don't bother with his training exercises (like the rambling shit), or his spiritual mumbo jumbo. Just watch his infields, he's really good at connecting with women. I just checked out 60 years of challenge website and idk man, he's trying to sell shit way too hard. I'm sure there's good stuf…
/r/seduction13/01/20 07:30 AM
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Thanks! If you're interested in authentic, respectful approaching with a focus on deep connections and love over "slaying pussy bruh", I recommend Sasha Daygame's newer stuff, James Marshall, and Liam McRae. They all have tons of content on YouTube.
/r/seduction13/01/20 07:16 AM
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Fair enough man. If there are multiple attractive women in the group, I agree with your strategy. But personally, most groups have 0 women I'm interested in, a group with 1 woman I'm interested in is pretty rare. But I only really pick up 9's and 10's.
/r/seduction13/01/20 03:35 AM
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Wow, you must have super low standards, if you just enter a group and don't care which of the girls you hook up with.
/r/seduction13/01/20 03:28 AM
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Here's one of my favorite group approaches, that I learned from Sasha Daygame. Admittedly, I think it's better for day game, but it totally works in bars as well. Confidently approach the group, and say "Hey excuse me everyone, but I have a huge, enormous crush on this girl right here" (point at the girl). "Please tell me now if she's married or has a boyfriend, so I can go cry in the corner." Usually, the group will laugh and respect your confidence, and if she's single-ish, they will suddenly …
/r/seduction13/01/20 03:11 AM
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Listen more than you talk. Ask her deep questions, and challenge her responses. Don't reward her until she earns it. Most guys suck at this. Here's an example: You: "So do you have any creative pursuits?" Her: "I love playing the piano" Most guys' response is to immediately say: "Oh wow, that's so cool." with a big smile. NO IT FUCKING ISN'T. Anyone can play the piano. You just validated her and practically supplicated her. That's not attractive. It's decidedly "nice guy", beta behavior. Here's …
/r/seduction13/01/20 03:02 AM
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I think you're getting too caught up in semantics, dude. Seduction is everything that turns a woman on: eye contact, confidence, pressure and release, push and pull, touch escalation, trigger pulling, etc. All of those things can be called flirting too. Who cares what you call them
/r/seduction13/01/20 02:54 AM
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Totally agree - if you see my reply to OP, you'll see I'm not a smiley person either, and it's never hindered me. However, during that first "Excuse me" in a cold approach, that first 10 seconds, a big smile is important to indicate that you're there for positive reasons and not negative. I don't smile much after that initial icebreaker though.
/r/seduction13/01/20 02:52 AM
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I'm not a smiley guy. I'm also not high energy. I simply approach women I'm attracted to and make my intentions known, and start vibing with them, flirting with them, and touching them. Often with very minimal smiling. (However, always have a big smile in the first 10 seconds, she needs to know you're there for positive reasons and not negative!) My game is very low energy, low smooth voice, very slow paced and seductive. If I'm complimenting a girl on her shirt, I'll touch her waist as I do it.…
/r/seduction13/01/20 02:50 AM
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Firstly, there is a lot of wisdom in the whole "don't shit where you eat" thing. If you pursue her, and your mindsets are wrong, things could get super awkward and one or both of you might feel really uncomfortable coming to that class. In college, I think it's much better to hang out in crowded social commons areas, and approach girls you think are cute and chat them up. Ask what they are studying, flirt and vibe with them for 10+ minutes, ask them out, get their number. Simple. Don't overcompl…
/r/seduction13/01/20 02:45 AM
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Thanks for the thorough response. That all makes sense to me, with one HUGE exception: You should feel equally "whole" whether you are single, living your life with only the rules you make for yourself How?! Do you have no sexual needs whatsoever? I'm personally not okay with jerking off or porn, so I don't see how I can feel whole without my sexual needs, or my needs for physical and emotional (romantic) intimacy, being met.
/r/seduction12/01/20 09:10 PM
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Yes, it's perfectly normal to kiss within the first 15 or 30 minutes of the first date. You need to do more touch escalation first. Be sure you do so carefully, back off if she isn't receptive to it, as you make the touches more and more sexual and obvious. I usually touch them naturally during jokes and laughs, let my hand linger on her arm or the small of her back. Before long, we're holding hands and playing with each other's fingers. As soon as she starts touching my body, like if she stroke…
/r/seduction12/01/20 08:32 PM
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You clearly don't understand the difference between confidence and over-confidence. We all know women are attracted to confidence, that's a no-brainer, so your argument is a straw man fallacy. I even said women are attracted to confidence in my post. Real talk, I'm an average looking guy. I started doing cold approaches about a year ago. Using authenticity, I've landed three 10's in the past year, and each relationship lasted about three months. These women were mind-blowing in every sense of th…
/r/seduction12/01/20 08:12 PM
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Those are all good points. Especially that women often want totally different things than what they say they want, and respond to things way differently than they claim they'd respond to them. I think there's a lot of value to understanding that, but in this particular situation, I also think what they're saying is actually true: they genuinely are attracted to confidence, but not cockiness, and they love when a high-value man is vulnerable with them. I've had this belief for years, corroborated…
/r/seduction12/01/20 10:18 AM
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u/yrogerg123, I just want to thank you so much for these words of wisdom. They have helped me immensely tonight. Since I started cold approaching, I've been in multiple whirlwind romances. Some last months, some last just one night. What they all have in common is that I want them to last forever, but they don't. They end. And then a huge part of me feels lost and empty until the next one starts. Is that normal? The thing is - I do feel fulfilled by my career and my artistic pursuits, I don't fe…
/r/seduction12/01/20 07:01 AM
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Hey man, I'm sorry you're feeling frustrated. I know how frustrating that can be. First of all, it's not possible for a woman to reject you. She knows nothing about you. All she's rejecting is a little 30 second snippet of some random guy walking up to her. She's only seeing a shadow of a reflection of you. You might be a talented musician, or driven in your career, or a passionate lover, or a million other things, but she's just not seeing all that amazing stuff. So she isn't seeing you. Now it…
/r/seduction12/01/20 06:39 AM
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Very interesting.. I actually never think to call anymore, but I used to many years ago. I always figure that freaks girls out in this modern text-driven world. I always just text to set up the date. I might try calling again, I much prefer vibing that way! Thanks for the inspiration.
/r/seduction12/01/20 06:08 AM
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Hey there. I understand your frustration. Please bear with me, I'm going to address your question by explaining some dynamics. Having done a ton of both Tinder game and cold approach game, cold approach game wins by a mile, and I'll tell you why. Any chump can message a girl on Tinder. It takes 0 confidence, and she has all the power. It makes you look like you have no options, and even when I get women into relationships this way, that power dynamic sticks. They have so many men on there that y…
/r/seduction12/01/20 05:54 AM
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Awesome, good for you! Regarding the shakiness... Any time anything awkward like that happens, I find calling it out is always the best thing to do. For instance, if I'm handing a woman my phone, and my hand shakes a little bit, I'll call it out and say "sorry, I'm a little nervous, you're just super cute". Some data to back this up: Sasha Daygame recently released a video where he interviewed women and asked them what they hate about men approaching. The top 2 things they hate are disrespectful…
/r/seduction12/01/20 05:20 AM
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