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| 1 | Okay, there is an element to feminism that I Just do not get: if the patriarchy is created by men for men with the explicit purpose of controlling women's bodies, exactly what reason would men supposedly have for going through all that trouble to create a conspiracy just to get some tits?[Not in agreement with this subreddit's apparent beliefs, and posting here to answer a question.] Side stepping the issue does not actually undermine the validity of multiple studies which show that men have a pro-women bias and women have a pro-women bias. Please feel free to cite these studies if you'd like to discuss them. But I think you also need to address the question of "if that is the case, why do we see - and why have we always seen - such vast disparities in the halls of power?" I don… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Okay, there is an element to feminism that I Just do not get: if the patriarchy is created by men for men with the explicit purpose of controlling women's bodies, exactly what reason would men supposedly have for going through all that trouble to create a conspiracy just to get some tits?[Not in agreement with this subreddit's apparent beliefs, and posting here to answer a question.] That doesn't fool me. I'm not trying to fool you. I'm explaining, in good faith, what I believe (and what I don't believe) and why. That example isn't intended as proof of my general beliefs about society so much as, from my perspective, an example of my own viewpoint and the fact that I do put it into practice when the situation calls for it. You're citing one rarely occurring instance of a woman b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 11:11 PM |
| 0 | Okay, there is an element to feminism that I Just do not get: if the patriarchy is created by men for men with the explicit purpose of controlling women's bodies, exactly what reason would men supposedly have for going through all that trouble to create a conspiracy just to get some tits?[Not in agreement with this subreddit's apparent beliefs, and posting here to answer a question.] It presumably wouldn't. But since we clearly do have such a society (look at, say, the percentage of Congress or Presidents or top execs or self-made billionaires or whatever other measure of wealth and power you'd like and there's not really any serious argument as to which sex is running the world right now and throughout recorded history), I think you have to reject the premise. (Not that "studie… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Okay, there is an element to feminism that I Just do not get: if the patriarchy is created by men for men with the explicit purpose of controlling women's bodies, exactly what reason would men supposedly have for going through all that trouble to create a conspiracy just to get some tits?[Not in agreement with this subreddit's apparent beliefs, and posting here to answer a question.] I don't understand what you're asking here. Can you be more specific? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Okay, there is an element to feminism that I Just do not get: if the patriarchy is created by men for men with the explicit purpose of controlling women's bodies, exactly what reason would men supposedly have for going through all that trouble to create a conspiracy just to get some tits?[Not in agreement with this subreddit's apparent beliefs, and posting here to answer a question.] There it is: there it is patriarchy. The male is always to blame for every problem a woman faces. ...no, once again, that is not at all what I'm saying. On average, the system in which we live (not individual men, but the system as a whole, which is admittedly supported and perpetuated by some but not all men) tends to make women's problems worse than they would otherwise be. By analogy to other for… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Okay, there is an element to feminism that I Just do not get: if the patriarchy is created by men for men with the explicit purpose of controlling women's bodies, exactly what reason would men supposedly have for going through all that trouble to create a conspiracy just to get some tits?[Not in agreement with this subreddit's apparent beliefs, and posting here to answer a question.] ...no. men are by birth blood thirsty killers No, of course not. Men are not, by birth, better or worse than women, and anyone claiming otherwise sucks. But, as a result of their physical strength advantage in the past, aggressive or malicious men could better enact their desire to seize power. There were, no doubt, aggressive or malicious women at the time as well, but on average they weren't able … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 10:04 PM |
| -3 | Okay, there is an element to feminism that I Just do not get: if the patriarchy is created by men for men with the explicit purpose of controlling women's bodies, exactly what reason would men supposedly have for going through all that trouble to create a conspiracy just to get some tits?[Not in agreement with this subreddit's apparent beliefs, but this is a reasonable-if-loaded question so I'm going to pop my head in to do my best to answer it.] It isn't a conspiracy, at least not in the sense that men get together and go "muahahaha, today we will gather to oppress the wimmenz!". In the relatively recently past, there wasn't much need for it to be - remember, women couldn't even get their own bank accounts without the approval of their husbands in much of the developed world we… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Liberals want to kill Father's day....I'm sure I'm pissing in the wind here, but just to be clear: I'm a flaming liberal living in a city full of such, and I have never ever heard anyone object to Father's Day. As for this: I'm ALL about the trans community. I think it's wonderful that people who weren't comfortable in their own bodies found a way to be comfortable. However. Don't marginalize men and father's for the sake of a voting group How is a man with a child - i.e., a father - celebrating Father's Day in any way marginalizing… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/18 08:21 PM |
| 4 | I give up on societyTransgenders get healthcare AND other transgender benefits. ...I'm pretty sure the benefits under discussion here are transition-related care. | /r/MGTOW | 12/06/18 09:59 AM |
| 14 | I give up on societySo you're telling me if you're transgender you get more benefits than a regular guy or girl? "So you're telling me if you have diabetes they just give you insulin that other people don't get?" | /r/MGTOW | 12/06/18 02:51 AM |
| 2 | [CMV] Porn and sexual repression lead to MTF and AutogynephiliaBecause a lot of peoples' interests are shaped by social expectations, if I had to guess. So a lot of trans women end up in male-dominated fields, and vice-versa for trans men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:24 AM |
| 9 | [CMV] Porn and sexual repression lead to MTF and AutogynephiliaReddit is MTF-dominated. Tumblr is FTM-dominated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 05:14 AM |
| 9 | [CMV] Porn and sexual repression lead to MTF and AutogynephiliaI was reading about transgenders, and I came across the fact that there are between 3 to 4 times more MTF (Male to Female) Transgenders than FTM. This isn't really true - it's a consequence of early studies focusing on people who'd had genital surgery specifically, which was developed much earlier for trans women than for trans men. Modern surveys find the numbers pretty close. So your whole data-less ad-hoc theory here is trying to explain something that isn't even true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 09:27 PM |
| 5 | How do you feel about transgender men?Which is precisely why I'm here arguing against that. It's a common, and mistaken, belief. | /r/askTRP | 05/01/18 03:59 PM |
| 4 | How do you feel about transgender men?And what I am saying is that those people, by and large, are not trans. | /r/askTRP | 05/01/18 03:55 PM |
| 4 | How do you feel about transgender men?Thankfully, I don't know of any that push it to such a degree that they start using the men's bathroom. So...you don't really know any people who've actually transitioned, and you're using them to explain why those of us that do transition do so? | /r/askTRP | 05/01/18 03:42 PM |
| 4 | How do you feel about transgender men?Transgenderism and body dysmorphic disorder, despite their superficial resemblance, are almost completely different clinically. | /r/askTRP | 05/01/18 03:38 PM |
| 5 | How do you feel about transgender men?So if you're a woman and identify more with masculine gender norms, then why can't you be a woman who is traditionally a little more masculine? You can. Being trans is not just being particularly masculine or effeminate. | /r/askTRP | 05/01/18 03:37 PM |
| 1 | To avoid hiring women, especially in the wake of multiple false accusations, it's best to hire a man/transgender person who identifies as a woman.A number of them have admitted to it, often with evidence to that effect. | /r/MGTOW | 20/12/17 01:29 AM |
| 1 | To avoid hiring women, especially in the wake of multiple false accusations, it's best to hire a man/transgender person who identifies as a woman.Legally speaking? Yes, they do. Professionally speaking? No more than the rest of us, which is to say 'not much'. | /r/MGTOW | 20/12/17 01:20 AM |
| -1 | To avoid hiring women, especially in the wake of multiple false accusations, it's best to hire a man/transgender person who identifies as a woman.Companies can choose for the most part who they want to associate with. What would you like a company to do when there are multiple independent accusations against a person? | /r/MGTOW | 20/12/17 12:04 AM |
| 0 | To avoid hiring women, especially in the wake of multiple false accusations, it's best to hire a man/transgender person who identifies as a woman.You just can't admit that false allegations occur every day . That seems statistically possible in a country of this size. What I don't think is that false convictions occur with much frequency, and what I do think is that you're acting like there's all this frenzy over nothing when, in fact, quite a lot of powerful people (who are mostly men) have been abusing their power to harass or molest their subordinates. | /r/MGTOW | 19/12/17 11:54 PM |
| -8 | To avoid hiring women, especially in the wake of multiple false accusations, it's best to hire a man/transgender person who identifies as a woman.One who, so far as I can tell, pursued and was awarded appropriate legal remedy. | /r/MGTOW | 19/12/17 11:43 PM |
| -6 | To avoid hiring women, especially in the wake of multiple false accusations, it's best to hire a man/transgender person who identifies as a woman.How many average guys got screwed that did nothing wrong. Thousands , I'd wager. At that point you're going "see! this stuff I assume is happening proves me right!" | /r/MGTOW | 19/12/17 11:38 PM |
| 2 | UK: Feminist kicked out of Labour Christmas party because her views on transgender rights 'made guests feel unsafe'I skimmed it, and it doesn't seem to say anything of the kind. At best it says that the demise of pro-Soviet sentiment among intellectuals benefited U.S. interests, which...duh? | /r/MensRights | 13/12/17 09:52 PM |
| 1 | UK: Feminist kicked out of Labour Christmas party because her views on transgender rights 'made guests feel unsafe'That is sometimes true, yes. I can still support one ideology without supporting the other, even if others combine the two. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/17 09:50 PM |
| 4 | UK: Feminist kicked out of Labour Christmas party because her views on transgender rights 'made guests feel unsafe'Neoliberalism is an economic doctrine, not a social one. FWIW, I'm pretty concerned with social issues and am more or less on the progressive wing. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/17 09:59 AM |
| 4 | UK: Feminist kicked out of Labour Christmas party because her views on transgender rights 'made guests feel unsafe'If you're posting this out of a belief that it is somehow hypocritical, it's really not. She'd have been booted for racism or homophobia too - that sort of thing is generally not seen as okay in left-wing spaces. Feminism is important, but it isn't the only cause that is, and she'd been quite aggressive in attacking those other causes in the past. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/17 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Am I the only person that sees the problem with this?Funny how I merely mentioned "white people" and your first and only thought was "slavery". Do you really believe that the entire world is the United States of America? No, but I'm American and so is the largest group of Redditors, so I usually assume a U.S. perspective unless indicated otherwise. I hadn't noticed your username. Unlike you, I don't believe in guilt by association, I don't believe that sins are inherited I don't believe in either of those things. and I don't believe that the past … | /r/MensRights | 11/12/17 07:02 PM |
| -2 | Am I the only person that sees the problem with this?/r/MensRights Fuck off with the identity politics. Say that again, but, slowly. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/17 07:28 AM |
| -4 | Am I the only person that sees the problem with this?Oh, I see. Are you one of those people. ...that thinks the situation of men now is not remotely comparable to literal freaking slavery? Yes, I am one of those people. You see, I am against bigotry. So am I, and I have a hard time believing someone can fly such a comparison without it. It doesn't matter how a person who is dead was treated in the past. What matters is how a person who is alive today is treated right now. The two aren't unrelated, unless you think wealth, power, and influence are … | /r/MensRights | 11/12/17 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Am I the only person that sees the problem with this?Imagine if I opened a homeless shelter that only serves white people. Wouldn't you find it weird and immediately assume that I'm a racist? Yes, but that isn't a comparable situation unless you're claiming that men have historically been treated comparably to racial minorities as a group (and if you are claiming that...yeah, no). | /r/MensRights | 11/12/17 05:38 AM |
| 1 | Am I the only person that sees the problem with this?Theres not really much I can personally do about that though. I mean, you obviously can't unilaterally change it - but it's a current within your community that you can, and should, resist. If you already are, great. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/17 03:16 AM |
| 2 | Am I the only person that sees the problem with this?Can I offer a little advice from the outside? You're likely to see a lot more traction if you focus on how there aren't resources in some areas for men, rather than focusing on how there are for women. Many people like me would find it much easier to advocate for this sort of thing if it wasn't so closely associated with dumping on feminism. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/17 03:01 AM |
| -6 | Action Opportunity: Tweet to ask Canadian PM Justin Trudeau to Apologize to Earl SilvermanNote we cannot link to twitter here because due to reddit's discriminatory rules against civil rights activities protecting the rights of boys and men. looks around Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 07:08 PM |
| 1 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?Heinlein didn't make the film, he wrote the book. The film is intentionally, explicitly, and admittedly about how those things are terrible ideas and how the society in question is basically just Nazi Germany. It's not "post-national" - the nation there is humans, and the "aliens" are literal aliens. | /r/MGTOW | 21/11/17 09:51 PM |
| 1 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?...the movie that was very clearly a satire about how batshit insane the world portrayed is? | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/17 10:02 AM |
| 1 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?a la Starship Troopers. ...the movie? | /r/MGTOW | 18/11/17 11:01 PM |
| 1 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?Out of curiosity, what is your preferred solution to dealing with violence/sexual assault? | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/17 02:59 AM |
| 2 | What are your opinions on male transgenders or what ever gender bullshit is out there?It's kind of amazing to me how many people will happily go on about what trans people think and why without any experience with the community. No, I didn't transition because I think all men are evil and all women are saints, nor do trans people in general think that. A friend of mine transitioned the other way, and I certainly do not think less of him for it. And, obviously no, I don't think I'm "oblivious to what lies in my reasoning". | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/17 10:38 PM |
| 0 | What are your opinions on male transgenders or what ever gender bullshit is out there?They come back normal, as it turns out. Want to try again? | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/17 10:33 PM |
| 2 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?What ideology would you say that is? A sort of really extreme anti-feminism. The current front page exemplifies it pretty well - a vaguely "DAE injecting kids with hormones to force them to change gender" nonsense claim, a tongue-in-cheek but still totally absurd characterization of feminist goals, and various /r/forwardsfromgrandma-level random conservative BS. As for myself, I just don't want to get divorce-raped. Which...okay, I don't have a problem with that in itself, although I certainly d… | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/17 08:04 AM |
| 2 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?Keep in mind, there's a lot of freshly broken hearts in this sub. I know. That's part of why it's more pity than hate. I meant the latter, but feel free to expound on the former too The latter, I think, is mostly just improved availability and social acceptance. I wouldn't have transitioned ten years ago, the cost was too high. The former, I think, is basically "I get that you're hurting but you're resorting to ridiculous ideologies to deal with it". | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/17 03:44 AM |
| 3 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?As for myself, there's no hate involved. That has, to say the least, not been my experience reading this sub's claims. I tend to put y'all in the incels/redpill basket. Anyways, what's your take on all this? Is is the same as it's always been but with more societal acceptance, or is there something in the water? On all what? On MGTOW's positions? Or on the increase in visible trans people? | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/17 11:50 PM |
| 5 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?No, I'm fortunate enough to 'pass' well enough that strangers don't know about my status until and unless I tell them. When people do know, they're usually respectful - although that's mostly because I'm careful about who I tell and moved to the bluest of blue cities. | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/17 09:08 PM |
| 3 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?I'm happier. I have a body I like a lot better than my old one. | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/17 08:34 PM |
| 4 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?Because I watch Reddit in general for trans related threads and this popped up. | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/17 06:28 PM |
| 5 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?Neither. I just have an ongoing radar for threads involving trans people. I feel genuinely sorry for most of the folks here, despite my let's-say sharp disagreement with most of the viewpoints expressed. | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/17 06:59 AM |
| 1 | Interesting comments, how it's to transition from female to male ...As you conveniently ignore the part where basically everyone going the other way will tell you yes, sexism is a problem. | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/17 08:39 PM |
| 7 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?MTF - or as we'd usually say, I'm a trans woman. | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/17 08:21 PM |
| 3 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?I am, yes, although the preferred way to same it is "a transgender person/man/woman" - it's an adjective, not a noun. | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/17 08:00 PM |
| 7 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?They're slightly rarer but not much; old studies tended to heavily undersample tham by only looking at people who'd gotten genital surgery. Note that Reddit specifically is pretty MTF-dominated, partly because a lot of us were here before transitioning and Reddit is generally male-leaning. Tumblr shows the opposite trends. | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/17 07:45 PM |
| 15 | What's the reason for the rise in transgenders?Alternately, you could pop over to the trans subs and ask what those of us who have experience living as both genders think of how each is treated. But I imagine you're not going to like the answer much. Oh, and for the record, even your starting point here is false: the gender ratio of MTF vs FTM transitions has leaned more towards FTM as time has gone on. | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/17 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Calling for Political movementSurely someone with a background in mathematics would agree. Even if I did think standard liberal causes were ridiculous - and I don't, or at least I don't for most of them - there's not even that big a gender gap on those questions. | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/17 07:04 PM |
| 3 | Calling for Political movementBeing lectured about common sense in a thread where people are taking seriously the claim that three-odd billion people are literally incapable of reasoning seems a bit silly to me, but okay. | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/17 09:04 PM |
| 3 | Calling for Political movementCool. C'mon over to /r/asktransgender and we'll accept you as such. (I realize this is meant to be sarcasm.) | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/17 10:51 AM |
| 3 | Calling for Political movementI don't, normally, although I do regard this sub with a sort of sad curiosity. This particular thread, because it mentioned trans issues, popped up on my normal search. | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/17 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Calling for Political movementYes, I do, because I am a woman. Yes, I am also trans. | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/17 02:54 AM |
| 4 | Calling for Political movementAnd as we all know, one master's in math wimin means all 3-some billion women on Earth are literally math geniuses. No, it doesn't. Many people are idiots, and by extension, many women are idiots. But OP made a universal claim, and only one counterexample is sufficient to disprove a universal. Which, ironically, you'd know if you had a bit of logic :P | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/17 02:54 AM |
| 5 | Calling for Political movementAnd as we all know, one batch of marital problems means all 3-some billion women on Earth are literally incapable of logic. | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/17 11:00 PM |
| 4 | Calling for Political movementWomen CANT think rationally, they use emotions And once again, I feel the need to pop into this sub to point out that I have a master's in math and have literally taught logic for a living. | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/17 10:45 PM |
| 5 | Why are conservative / red pill / whatever women drawn to TERFs?No-one outside the internet really cares about transgender people or issues, one way or another. I mean, not to put too fine a point on it, but there's definitely a demographic that does... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/17 10:12 AM |
| 2 | LOL, /r/Gender_Critical locked my post on gender, and /r/MensLib locked my post on masculinity. Is a discussion with feminists impossible?You're right, it's accidentally failing male students, and helping female students along. It's not. It's failing students of both sexes, but this particular failure mode affects boys disproportionately. That's all by accident. I mean, not by accident in the sense that the system is not random, but I certainly don't think hurting boys (or girls) is an end goal if that's what you mean. Seriously? Why limit yourself to the classroom? I don't "limit" myself, but it's the place I have the most direct… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/17 04:39 PM |
| 2 | LOL, /r/Gender_Critical locked my post on gender, and /r/MensLib locked my post on masculinity. Is a discussion with feminists impossible?Not "disrespecting the human and personal needs", failing to educate them. The two are one and the same. The information is there - but the respect for their needs as children is not. And yet, you have the freedom to stand up for your male students, to work to counter the prejudice in the education system that has crippled their education... I don't think the education system is prejudiced against boys, at least not in the sense you seem to think. I think the current railroading structure tends … | /r/MensRights | 04/08/17 04:17 PM |
| 1 | LOL, /r/Gender_Critical locked my post on gender, and /r/MensLib locked my post on masculinity. Is a discussion with feminists impossible?You have absolutely no idea what steps I do or don't take with respect to my students. I don't think the educational system, as currently constructed, is respecting the human and personal needs of anyone - teachers or students, men or women - in it. I do my best to alleviate that, but my freedom to do that isn't unlimited; I still answer to my bosses and have to work more or less within what I'm given. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/17 04:10 PM |
| 2 | LOL, /r/Gender_Critical locked my post on gender, and /r/MensLib locked my post on masculinity. Is a discussion with feminists impossible?Oh, you just don't care enough to fix them ...of course I do. My disagreements with how this sub about how to fix it notwithstanding, of course I care about my students and their well-being and do the best I can. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/17 03:46 PM |
| 1 | LOL, /r/Gender_Critical locked my post on gender, and /r/MensLib locked my post on masculinity. Is a discussion with feminists impossible?-shrug- The vast majority of feminists I've met have been perfectly decent people working on problems I think are legitimate. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/17 07:26 AM |
| 1 | LOL, /r/Gender_Critical locked my post on gender, and /r/MensLib locked my post on masculinity. Is a discussion with feminists impossible?I'm a teacher. I see its numerous failures daily. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/17 03:41 AM |
| 2 | LOL, /r/Gender_Critical locked my post on gender, and /r/MensLib locked my post on masculinity. Is a discussion with feminists impossible?The education system fails in a lot of ways. It's not a good thing, but it is true. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/17 07:49 PM |
| 2 | LOL, /r/Gender_Critical locked my post on gender, and /r/MensLib locked my post on masculinity. Is a discussion with feminists impossible?Although, the attempt to force boys to act like girls in education settings (primary school), is definitely somewhere in the middle, and the effects should be considered (boys are now falling behind girls as early as first grade). It is being considered and has been for a while. This was a major point of discussion in the education department I attended eight years ago. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/17 07:21 PM |
| 4 | LOL, /r/Gender_Critical locked my post on gender, and /r/MensLib locked my post on masculinity. Is a discussion with feminists impossible?Well, for one, GCers aren't feminists - it's just a hate group against trans folks dressed up in feminism's skin. But that being said: the fact that there are physiological differences between men and women does not even close to prove (a) that the stereotypical beliefs about what those differences are are correct, (b) that differences in social outcomes are not due to discrimination, or (c) that there's not benefit to be had in not treating men and women equally. Re a few of your specific point… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/17 07:10 PM |
| 1 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.I would be happy to. Any doctor worth their salt knows medicine is about playing the odds. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/17 07:25 PM |
| 1 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Look, I get that you don't like it. But we know it works, and we know the people involved are happier afterwards. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/17 07:20 PM |
| 1 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.A child that age is not competent to make that decision. A child that age isn't competent to make any medical decision alone. That's why it's made with the help of their parents and their doctor. The results remain excellent, and the facts don't need your acceptance to be facts. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/17 07:11 PM |
| 1 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Again, it's not "subject to". It's providing a treatment that is proven to work to someone asking for it. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/17 07:05 PM |
| 5 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.I'm willing to accept for the sake of argument that there (a) is such a couple who (b) have an 11 year old who (c) is getting transition treatments. But the claims in the article offers no justification whatsoever for the claim that this was somehow the parents' secret plan all along. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/17 07:02 PM |
| 3 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.What could be a more objective source than an "ihavethetruth.com" article that starts with "Lesbians adopting little boys only to castrate them?" Come on, man. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/17 06:42 PM |
| 3 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Ooo, The_Denial poster. Got it. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/17 04:06 PM |
| 6 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.What time frames are you looking at? In the study linked elsewhere in this thread, almost a decade. In other studies, follow-ups have been as long as twenty or twenty-five years. IIRC, there are studies showing most trans patients wind up with a much higher incidence of depression and substance abuse later in life. Higher than the general public in some studies, yes. Higher than untransitioned patients in none. Utility aside, its not a decision someone should be making before they are a fully fo… | /r/MensRights | 24/07/17 04:02 PM |
| 4 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.You have a dick, your a dude and should act as such. Isn't like half the point of this sub to go on about how such expectations are stupid? | /r/MensRights | 24/07/17 04:00 PM |
| 3 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Then why do we see excellent mental health outcomes and no regrets? | /r/MensRights | 24/07/17 03:57 PM |
| 5 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Not enforcing gender roles =/= trying to make your child trans. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/17 03:56 PM |
| 3 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Not even that. Just check the damn sources. It takes two seconds. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 08:47 PM |
| 5 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Cheers, but y'all gotta start smacking this shit down. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 08:21 PM |
| 4 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Essentially no one. It's far more common for a trans person to be shoved into the closet than the other way around. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 08:20 PM |
| 5 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Oh my - you dissect everything like a Femint professor Also known as, uh, critical thinking? in the hope you may make sense one in every 100 Kind of an odd charge to level at me, given that half your sentences are the grammatical equivalent of a tumbleweed. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 08:19 PM |
| -1 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.No, your statement was untrue to begin with. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 06:19 PM |
| 2 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Kids make decisions based on why the parents want. My parents made it abundantly clear that they wouldn't support my transition and threw me out when I did. Didn't make me not trans, any more than a parent can 'make' a kid trans (and that's totally aside from the fact that people, y'know, aren't trying to do that). | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 06:10 PM |
| 2 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.What is G.A.Y supposed to be an acronym for? Judging by the rest of their posts I'm guessing something like Gews Against Yehovah. Dude's bananas. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 06:09 PM |
| 5 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.They're not 'forcing' anything. No one's doing treatments of any kind for adolescents without their explicit request. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 06:08 PM |
| 5 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Darling Seriously? It Correctly And Validly Unlike your capitalization, apparently. begs the question Not what that means. over causation as the actual smoking gun is still missing after 3+ Decades. ...it's really not. AIDS is caused by HIV. There is still more unknown about HIV (I, II and III) than is actually known. Many researchers are still having to develop the actual techniques needed to study HIV on a cellular, genetic and active level and they have been at it since 1983. Okay? It's a rel… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 04:33 PM |
| 4 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.Here's a paper, same journal, 'questioning' the link between HIV and AIDS. Here's an official statement from the group opposing mandatory vaccines and a Times article about the group mentioning their vaccine opposition among other batshit positions. Here's a paper, again from the same journal (though prior to a name change), claiming a massive conspiracy to destroy Christianity. Bonus points for this last one being written by an editor of said journal. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 03:42 PM |
| 7 | ‘Transgender’ ideology has created widespread child abuse - Pediatric “gender clinics” are considered elite centers for affirming children who are distressed by their biological sex.As explained in my 2016 peer reviewed article, “Gender Dysphoria in Children and Suppression of Debate,” This article was published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, which is published by a far-right group and includes claims that, among other things, HIV does not cause AIDS and that vaccines cause autism. Honestly, I feel like I could just stop there, but let's keep on going. For the last 12 years, I have been a board member and researcher for the American College of Pediatric… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/17 03:22 PM |
| 2 | SJWs Try to Debate On Trans Kids and Other ThingsThe main person arguing with me, chel_of_the_sea is a SJW I feel like this is supposed to somehow invalidate the - I would say quite compelling - case I have in favor of permitting transition. If "SJW" means "person who supports their position with numerous studies and the consensus of major medical organizations", then...yeah, okay? I don't take internet arguments seriously. Nothing says lack of seriousness like six-hour debates followed by fleeing to a safe space. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/17 03:34 AM |
| 2 | SJWs Try to Debate On Trans Kids and Other ThingsCheck that The New Atlantis Article. The New Atlantis isn't a peer-reviewed journal. It's an opinion publication by a social-conservative advocacy group. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/17 03:31 AM |
| 1 | SJWs Try to Debate On Trans Kids and Other ThingsIt's not as if the American Psychiatric Association has defined a clear difference between the two in their latest dsm. They did. Dysphoria requires clinically significant distress sufficient to disrupt daily function. Many trans people do not currently, and some have not ever, reached that threshold. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/17 03:30 AM |
| 3 | What would happen in a divorce/custody case if the father claimed to be a transgender ''mother''.Or, um, he could just contest it in the first place and save himself a lot of trouble? | /r/MGTOW | 07/07/17 05:46 AM |
| 1 | What would happen in a divorce/custody case if the father claimed to be a transgender ''mother''.FWIW, women usually get custody because men usually don't contest it. | /r/MGTOW | 07/07/17 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Hormones in the wateredit: I stumbled into this subreddit thinking it was some sort of Magic the Gathering fan forum that talked about random shit >_> Oh, you sweet summer child. | /r/MGTOW | 05/07/17 02:31 AM |
| 2 | Wombs for men: Astonishing prospect as fertility doctors back operations on NHS so transgender women born as boys can have babiesSo 'none', then. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/17 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Wombs for men: Astonishing prospect as fertility doctors back operations on NHS so transgender women born as boys can have babiesAnd your support for this is...? | /r/MensRights | 04/07/17 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Wombs for men: Astonishing prospect as fertility doctors back operations on NHS so transgender women born as boys can have babiesI mean, I'm trans and really hope this works, but I'm not sure we can confidently make such a statement until we've tried it. There might be processes we're unaware of. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/17 06:35 PM |
| 17 | Wombs for men: Astonishing prospect as fertility doctors back operations on NHS so transgender women born as boys can have babiesIt's kind of hilarious to watch multiple groups that hate the shit out of each other simultaneously freak out about this. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/17 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Two things MGTOW men should understand are facts about all women.(continued from above) Lol, how about stick to your role. It's not a mystery to be uncertain about and the answer discovered, silly girl. The funny thing is, that's totally something my more-or-less boyfriend would say in the bedroom if he were trying to rile me up. But to a stranger, I'll just say this: I'm a sub in the bedroom, but that doesn't mean I'm a doormat as a person. Insofar as I sub, it's to someone who has shown, time and again, that he is genuinely supportive of my well-being and r… | /r/MGTOW | 15/06/17 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Two things MGTOW men should understand are facts about all women.No matter how far I've seen women take the pursuit of wisdom, it seems they are never able to go beyond basic egotism/vanity and understanding based only on appearances/feelings rather than truth. Okay, let's take a basic exercise in priors and "outside view" thinking. If you have a random person who believes half the world is literally incapable of intelligence, compassion, or independence, which is more likely? That they're right, or that they're biased to all hell? Given the complete failure … | /r/MGTOW | 15/06/17 09:12 AM |
| 2 | Two things MGTOW men should understand are facts about all women.Everything you're doing is based on vanity/egotism, it's all feigned, you're just unaware of it because you are like a relatively unconscious child. Good lord, do you guys listen to yourselves? First question: Do you wear makeup? Generally, no. The last time I did was for a job interview, almost two years ago. | /r/MGTOW | 14/06/17 05:57 AM |
| 2 | Please resist the female invasionEven if you dont do it are you honestly going to sit there and say every transgender on Planet Earth will not? Of course not, that would be an absurdly strong claim. But, at least in my country, we have a presumption towards equality, freedom, and innocence in the law until proven otherwise. | /r/MGTOW | 03/06/17 07:35 PM |
| 2 | Please resist the female invasionMen care about their privacy being stolen It isn't being. trannies care about invading our bathroom No, we care about using the one appropriate to who and what we are. and this is going to end with men beating the living crap out of you people for daring to try This sort of thing is a big part of why such access matters. Use the womens bathroom because they are the only ones who want you freaks around. If you want to go by popularity, I gotta tell you, I think me and mine are a hell of a lot mor… | /r/MGTOW | 03/06/17 06:54 PM |
| 2 | Please resist the female invasionWho the hell cares? I mean, Jesus, use a stall if you're that paranoid. | /r/MGTOW | 03/06/17 11:11 AM |
| 2 | Please resist the female invasionI don't know, did you cut yours off already? No. Also, mens rooms have urinals. Yeah, they do, but I never really used them. Always struck me as kinda weird. But the question stands, how is this even remotely a concern? | /r/MGTOW | 03/06/17 08:38 AM |
| 2 | Please resist the female invasionThat makes no sense because one will be a current woman and one will be a former woman and they will both be interested in seeing cock. If I want to see a dick, I'll go look at my boyfriend's, lol. Do you seriously think I'm peeking under stalls in bathrooms to sneak a pick at some random guy's dick? | /r/MGTOW | 03/06/17 07:38 AM |
| 2 | Please resist the female invasion...I mean, the general advocacy is that trans men should be able to use the men's and trans women should be able to use the women's. | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/17 05:52 PM |
| 5 | Please resist the female invasionIf one of those creatures came into the men's room, the men just need to beat the living crap out that thing to let them know they are not welcome Pictured: a pretty good reason for us to care about appropriate bathroom access. Jesus Christ, dude. | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/17 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Women are Weak... Stop Giving Them Credit and Propswhy are you here? Be...cause you're spouting obvious bullshit and it seems worth mentioning that? you don't seem to be contributing to the conversation Not agreeing =/= not contributing. nor are you offering any real counter points. I mean, aside from cited rebuttals to your claims, I guess? you seem like you just want to start trouble because you have other way to bring us down. Or, alternately, I think you're wrong and that your current line of thought hurts everyone, including you, and I thin… | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/17 08:31 AM |
| 0 | Women are Weak... Stop Giving Them Credit and PropsYou are rare...admit it. I mean, not really? Women are only slightly underrepresented in mathematics Bachelor's degrees (a little over 40% of math bachelor's go to women). My department was a bit more lopsided than that, probably 70-30, but still. And telling the facts isn't misogyny.. They only occur to you that way cause you're a Cunt. Hoooooly shit, dude, okay. If you said women are better at multitasking is that true? Yes it is true. I mean, I haven't said that and wouldn't, but okay. BTW it… | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/17 07:33 AM |
| 0 | Women are Weak... Stop Giving Them Credit and PropsMen are smarter than women they are stronger than women and men have mental clarity (logic and common sense). Gee, I wonder how anyone could think you guys are misogynistic. For fuck's sake, OP, I have a graduate degree in mathematics. I've literally taught formal logic. Like, I get that y'all are bitter as fuck, but it's really not that hard to take like two seconds to actually think about your claims. | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/17 04:50 AM |
| 5 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?Of course there's room for nuance. Just take the time to say it. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:20 PM |
| 3 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?As an outsider here: OP's position is pretty much why I walk on very delicate eggshells if I want to discuss mens' issues. Y'all actually make it harder. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:14 PM |
| 2 | The Kinsey Scale...accurate, or pseudo-science?(He decided that he didn't have enough working class men, iirc, so he decided to look where working class men congregate to boost his numbers - he chose a prison. Because obviously.) Lol, did he really? Mid-1900s psych, you crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 11:13 PM |
| 4 | The Kinsey Scale...accurate, or pseudo-science?The left for example doesn't know what to do with "DL gay" since they don't claim being part of LGBT(QI) I hadn't heard of that specific term before, but a quick google doesn't leave me mystified. Homophobic culture + bi guy = "no it's totally straight, bro". More specifically, there's a difference between LGBT as a descriptor of sexual activity and LGBT as a subculture, silly though that might seem to folks who haven't spent much time thinking about tribes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 10:33 AM |
| 14 | The Kinsey Scale...accurate, or pseudo-science?It's not really an empirical thing, just a conceptual model for going "hey, there are shades of gray here". Since obviously there are, I'm not sure what there is to debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 10:16 AM |
| 5 | [Free Friday] What are your thoughts on these popular posts circulating around Facebook?But in the US, most women pretty much have rights to everything, but they act like they don't have them. Even if that were true, I think the marchers are (quite reasonably) concerned about things like abortion access, which an almost-completely-unopposed Republican government is openly going after. | /r/RedPillWives | 04/02/17 02:35 AM |
| 2 | [Free Friday] What are your thoughts on these popular posts circulating around Facebook?well YOU didn't either, because this stuff happened in the past and we weren't alive. I mean, not necessarily. Suffrage, maybe, but it's not like there's been no feminist actions for the last fifty years. | /r/RedPillWives | 04/02/17 02:33 AM |
| 9 | [Free Friday] What are your thoughts on these popular posts circulating around Facebook?The first post has a very "there are kids starving in Africa so stop complaining about eating poison" vibe about it. The women who were marching would, I think, generally agree that the situation of women in many other countries is terrible - but they're talking about whether the treatment here is right or not, which is an entirely separate issue. | /r/RedPillWives | 03/02/17 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Let's cut the bullshit once and for all. Women have weak sauce libidos compared to men. Assuming male and female libidos are the same but different is harmful blue pill thinking.I'm not a regular poster here. Only came up at all because OP was discussing trans folk as part of their point. | /r/MGTOW | 28/01/17 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Let's cut the bullshit once and for all. Women have weak sauce libidos compared to men. Assuming male and female libidos are the same but different is harmful blue pill thinking.One would think that in a discussion about how the sexes communicate and the differences in their needs, the perspective of someone with one foot in each world would be pretty useful. | /r/MGTOW | 28/01/17 05:03 PM |
| -3 | Let's cut the bullshit once and for all. Women have weak sauce libidos compared to men. Assuming male and female libidos are the same but different is harmful blue pill thinking.Okay, I was more or less with you until you somehow turned "women on average have lower libido than men" into: This is why having a job is optional for women, mandatory for men. Though it made sense after... Note that eHarmony is about "commitment" aka resource extraction, and predictably it's mostly women. In the absence of a financial incentive, most women most of the time have little interest in us and our stoopid dicks. Even if you marry them, after a year or so, alimony without your worthle… | /r/MGTOW | 28/01/17 07:58 AM |
| 1 | In light of recent women's rights protests, is there a concise list of issues that men face?Huh. This should be an interesting thread. Posting to mark for later. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/17 10:44 PM |
| 2 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismAnd I hope for the sake of all sanity, this never ever happens or becomes viable option. Ever. Why? Unless your claim is that I couldn't be a good mother, what is 'insane' about it? It's weird, sure, but so what? Your way of life looks pretty weird to a lot of folks too, and I expect you'd like to be left alone in terms of what you're doing for your own happiness. It's disturbing to me to even think about. I'm not at all surprised by that. The thought of transition was pretty weird to me when I … | /r/RedPillWives | 21/01/17 04:28 AM |
| 1 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismI think people also find ways to make peace with and make meaning out of the choices in life they made, particularly the ones with heavy social investments, like coming out as trans or joining a new religion or marrying that guy your friends say is no good, etc, so people's psyche's protect against regret in many ways... I think that's probably true to an extent, but unless you're grading all other movements and choices on a similar curve I'm not sure it's a fair charge. | /r/RedPillWives | 21/01/17 04:23 AM |
| 3 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismi don't think Camille or anyone else here is saying "no one should be allowed to transition, ever!", but rather adults should make their own decisions, and be liable for them. I mean, maybe you're not, but conservatives as a group are certainly pushing that. children just do not have the faculty to make these decisions. If a male child says they want to grow up to be X man, no one says "no, little timmy, you can't know you want to be a boy". But if a female child does, now it's "oh you can't pos… | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 10:23 AM |
| 7 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismSo you agree that the pro trans messages are increasing. If by "pro-trans" you mean "supportive of people that are", yes. How is that a bad thing? The issue is when this tendency is exploited and people are manipulated and/or mislead. Completely agreed. I think we just disagree on who's manipulating and misleading. For example a lot of young boys have the ADD/ADHD label slapped on them because they can’t succeed in a school system that increasingly punishes natural male personalities and behavio… | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 08:36 AM |
| 7 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismI just have a different perspective on both these things whereas you seemed to disagree with the idea that there was any support of trans people at all. At least in your first comment. Oh. Well no, obviously there are supportive groups - I run a few of them, in fact. But if we're talking integrated messages from society as a whole, they're mixed-at-best today and that's a huge improvement over the very recent past. I still regularly encounter people whose archetype for a trans person is Buffalo … | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 06:50 AM |
| 6 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismYou cannot ignore the tv shows, newspaper articles, magazine features, and statements by influential people all in support of trans "rights". Nor do I think you should, since I happen to agree with them. As far as medical definitions, you realise that the government regularly changes what is classified as an aberration vs healthy for reasons not related to actual science right? Please read this for more information. Well, for one, the APA, AMA, AAFP, and NOSW aren't government organizations. For… | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 06:32 AM |
| 5 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismEven if the kid is one of the lucky few that can convincingly pass with looks - their voice and mannerisms will be anywhere from awkward to glaring. Insofar as that's true (which is a lot less than you think), it's a consequence of transitioning as an adult. Someone who transitions at the onset of puberty never goes through their natal sex's puberty. but it's not a coincidence that the vast majority of trans are male to female Trans women are more common, but "vast majority" seems an overstateme… | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 05:52 AM |
| 4 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismThere is such a strong pro gay and pro trans movement right now and so much encouragement for people to identify as either or both. Yeah, my parents were sure encouraging me when they went on and on about how deviant being gay was, then threw me out of my family for coming out! I mean, obviously I just wanted such positive treatment, right? or with some encouragement from their parents and peers If by "encouragement" you mean "complete ostracization to the point of frequent suicide", I suppose. … | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 05:48 AM |
| 5 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismThe American College of Pediatricians disagrees with you The "American College of Pediatricians" is a tiny group specifically devoted to conservative social beliefs. They are not the American Academy of Pediatrics, which is the major association of pediatricians in the U.S. To quote them directly: The American College of Pediatricians: Recognizes that there are absolutes and scientific truths that transcend relative social considerations of the day. Recognizes that good medical science cannot ex… | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 05:44 AM |
| 5 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismI'm actually not. I run with a very progressive crowd. My views on gender dynamics within my own relationship are traditional, but that is not the extent of me. That mirrors me pretty well. Hormones or no hormones, sending a child to school dressed as the opposite gender, using a new name, parading a 14 year old online as some kind of trans icon is going to do some damage. Why? If the kid wants to speak out - and it seems they do - that doesn't seem wrong. I had all sorts of confusion as a kid. … | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 05:39 AM |
| 1 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismIt is easier or at least safer to move through the world as a man and I got so many awful and conflicting images about what it means to be a woman as a child that of course I wouldn't want to be a woman and the only alternative was a man. Sure. That's exactly the kind of thing that needs probing when you're talking about kids who may lack full understanding of the complexities of sex and gender. I am certainly not advocating that we not investigate things of that sort - but in my case, that wasn… | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 05:37 AM |
| 3 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismI am a trans woman, and that in no way "denies reality". I am well aware of my biology - a lot more so than most members of the general public, I might add - I just don't think that defines who I am as a person. It's one thing to abuse a child. It's quite another to attack its very identity. Being sympathetic to a child's own expression is not "attacking their very identity". Plenty of people know LGBT people exist while being perfectly confident that they themselves are not LGBT. | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 05:34 AM |
| 3 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismThe kids in question were referred for gender-variant behavior, not for clearly expressed identity. Zucker also just got ran out of practice for ethical violations not long ago. | /r/RedPillWives | 20/01/17 05:31 AM |
| 5 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismThe post is mainly about very young children transitioning To be clear, there's no medical transition at that age. Anything done until around 13-14 is completely reversible. And for the record, there was stuff going on in my head by that age. I went to bed every night for a while in elementary school hoping for a recurring dream where my body was 'swapped', piece by piece, with a girl's. Normally, that'd be a nightmare, but it wasn't for me. Well, it hasn't been a decade for these young children… | /r/RedPillWives | 19/01/17 10:20 PM |
| 3 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismChildren sexualized from a single-digit age are going to have a bad time - I certainly did. To parse the confusion of homosexual incest at an early age is a project which lasted, for me, to the present day. Do you not see a distinction between teaching children the facts about what their body is, how it works, and how they're going to develop, and sexually abusing a relative? Because I do, to say the least - one is vital education, the other deserves a long jail sentence. | /r/RedPillWives | 19/01/17 10:12 PM |
| 7 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismI've met a few transgender people as acquaintances, and I will say that all of them bar one had some kind of abuse/instability growing up. Given the sub we're on, I'm going to guess you're pretty culturally conservative. As a rule, those of us who can avoid being out to people we'd have good reason to expect hostility from are going to do just that. (Also, anecdotal sample is anecdotal, but hey) I do understand the reasoning for starting hormonal therapy before puberty in the case of a real tran… | /r/RedPillWives | 19/01/17 10:10 PM |
| 8 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismI think the kids get so much attention from saying they want to be the opposite sex that they keep the attention spout flowing Plenty of trans people, myself included, come from very conservative homes. Far from going on and on to "keep the attention spout flowing", we hid and suppressed and kept our feelings locked away in the deepest, darkest corners of our minds, terrified that anyone would find out. Does that seem healthy to you? Conclusion: kids will mutilate their bodies permanently to be … | /r/RedPillWives | 19/01/17 10:07 PM |
| 10 | On children and gender identity, and the impact of feminismAs anyone who has spent time around a child for more than 5 minutes knows, children don't always know what they want. That's just demonstrably untrue when it comes to transitioning starting in early adolescence (which is the earliest any medical intervention happens). Here's a study that followed kids from start of transition around 10-12 to a follow-up as adults - none of them regretted transition, and, in stark contrast to the very poor outcomes for untreated trans adults, they showed no eleva… | /r/RedPillWives | 19/01/17 10:05 PM |
| 1 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?When you understand something about symbolic logic call me. I have a graduate degree in mathematics. You really want to tango with me on formal logic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 02:13 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?You're now asking me to justify rooting my claims in logic. Yeah, we are done here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 02:06 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?I am not talking about behavior. Absolutely nothing depends in any way on any human decision-making. It's a straight up logical impossibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 01:54 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?You aren't getting me play your math game Because it is literally impossible even in this incredibly simple case for you to find any example where all three of those conditions hold. And if you can't even do that, it's utterly absurd to claim it about the world as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 01:22 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?Okay. Let's play a game. Five men, we'll call them ABCDE. Five women, call them 12345. Please develop me a list of relationships (e.g. A1, B4, C3) that meets the following criteria: The women are, on average, "dating up". There are equal or fewer high-value women single than high-value men single. All pairings are monogamous. Go ahead. I'll wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 12:54 AM |
| 1 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?there's extremely wide sexual inequalities. The inequality between the sexes is probably smaller than it has ever been in history. The fact that you personally aren't doing well does not a grand conspiracy against men make. The point is that marriage is later than ever before. I don't really see that as a problem, but I'll concede it's true. Bachelors are more numerous than before. More or less a corollary of later marriage. Definitions of marriage are shifting Good. nuclear families "dying" I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 12:52 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?No. I am not assuming any sort of evenness here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 12:48 AM |
| 1 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?Predictive power & falsifiability are the basis of positivist theories. And I, being more-or-less positivist, consider those the basis for most of what I believe. That approach to the world has drastically outperformed all others. What you would call a non-positivist theory, I'd call a model. It's a way of thinking about things, not a statement about the world. A useful near-isomorphism from the world to a mental construct, in more "mathy" terms. I still don't see why you're trying to debate epi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 12:48 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?Jesus, do you think you're smarter than you actually are. Microeconomics fails to account for a lot of real-world behavior because it usually assumes rational agents. But I'm assuming nothing at all about behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 12:44 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?Okay, so boiling out some of the raging projection going on in that post, I gather that your point boils down to essentially the following: according to you, Most women seek out higher-status men. Most men are not as picky about partners, and will generally take what they can get. As a result, young high-value men have most of the sex with high- and mid-value women, while mid-value men get disporportionately less (low-value men and women getting little in both cases). The mid-tier women who slee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/16 11:29 PM |
| 1 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?The TRP principles aren't predictive they are descriptive. If it's not predictive, it isn't a theory. The test of a theory is in the accuracy of its predictions. But we don't even need to that far. Your claims are logical impossibilities under the assumptions of monogamy and roughly equal numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/16 11:24 PM |
| 1 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?Nowhere in my post am I assuming market efficiency or rational agents. Provided there is any meaningful ranking of desirability - which seems to be an axiom of redpill thinking - then it is impossible for all women to 'date up' and not leave some high-value women single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/16 08:18 PM |
| 5 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?It is statistically impossible for all women to "date up" in terms of percentile quality. On average, provided everyone eventually pairs off (which is mostly true), and that there are roughly equal numbers (also mostly true), pairings have the same average percentile because the original population has the same average percentile. If, as you claim, some low-desirability men are going unwanted and every girl is dating up, then some girls are going unwanted. Maybe they're low-desirability women (i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/16 06:20 AM |
| 2 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.This isn't a friend. It's a perfect stranger who is on your damn side trying to get into an unrelated discussion into which you decide to inject your disdain for them. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/16 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.It doesn't strike you as the least bit hypocritical to, in a thread with many people on your own side displaying behavior X, to say "that side's displaying behavior X and is therefore bad!" | /r/MensRights | 19/12/16 02:45 AM |
| 2 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.Of course it is. Imagine, for example, if a Christian and an atheist shared the same room, and felt the need to greet each other every day with "oh hey Bob, still damned for eternity?" The point isn't one that needs to be made here, and it adds nothing to the discussion. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.all women/sluts Actually chuckled out loud. Good lord, you guys. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 08:17 PM |
| -1 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.I think it is definitively oppression if you have to get a job to support a non-working woman and a bunch of children, something which society demanded of men, otherwise they were "bad". That same society demanded women stay home, have little political or social influence, work full-time as both homemaker and child-rearer, and repeatedly go through the invasive and dangerous process of a pregnancy they may very well not have wanted. not the women that were and have always been entitled deadbeats… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 11:21 AM |
| 1 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.Oh, okay, 50% multiplicatively, not 50 percentage points. That's more in line with the data I'd seen. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 09:29 AM |
| 4 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.They are not special snowflakes that deserve special protection because they are different then the majority of the human population. Not going out of your way to be a dick is not treating someone as a 'special snowflake'. and yet society bends over backwards to not offend them. Oh come the hell off it. Outside of very liberal enclaves, people are hardly "bending over backwards", and half the country strongly and vocally hates us. Why? because it makes liberals and SJWs feel good about themselve… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 09:24 AM |
| -1 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.Not when men systematically favor physical (and thus dangerous) occupations, no. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 09:16 AM |
| 0 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.At no country, at no point in historic time, have men ever taken so many resources from women that they have outlived them. How is just that possible if women are oppressed? Because they're oppressed by lack of agency, not by lack of basic survival resources. You'd live quite a while if I locked you in a room and fed you regularly, but you wouldn't be particularly happy. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 09:14 AM |
| 1 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.It's worth mentioning that this may not be due to patriarchy, but instead due to feminism. This was a religious school that wouldn't let two 17 year olds hold hands. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it probably wasn't a feminist stronghold. and I'm not aware of any significant movements to help boys. It was a much-discussed subject in the education program I was in for a while. to the point that women graduate college at a rate 50% higher than men. Source for the 50% number? That's considerabl… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 09:11 AM |
| -1 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.Shit like this is why no one takes you guys seriously. Women don't live longer than men because they're oh-so-oppressed, they live longer because womens' bodies simply don't run as hard as men's. Metabolic rates are a known predictor of lifespan in a whole lot of animals, and men simply burn something like 40-50% more calories on basic body upkeep than women do. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 05:51 AM |
| 1 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.....are all things the people you're criticizing would also say. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 04:53 AM |
| 4 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.Case in point. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 04:33 AM |
| -1 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.You've got people in this very thread shunning OP for being trans, so...you know. Pot, kettle, etc? | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.So why is it that homosexuality on males is punished by state-murder in places while two women can grind each other raw in those same states without getting the same horrible punishment? Most of those countries don't like lesbians either. But perhaps more to the point, most people aren't gay, so focusing specifically on that isn't a very useful way of making claims about men or women in general. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 04:32 AM |
| 2 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.Even that I think is pretty silly. I was raised in a small conservative town, where at the school I worked at we had separate math textbooks for the girls that taught their geometry through quilting patterns. This was this decade, and it wasn't particularly unrepresentative of attitudes towards women there. Even if you think there's parity today - well, most women alive have not just been alive through recent times, have they? Rewind 40, 50 years and it's a very different story. Rewind 65 and yo… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 02:05 AM |
| -3 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.OP, I'm fine with the claim that: men and women both have issues that need to be fixed in society But your other claim: neither sex is more oppressed than the other is patently absurd. It might, maybe, be debatable if you limit yourself to relatively liberal and secular areas in Western countries in, say, the past twenty years (I think it falls even then, but it's at least not patently absurd to debate the question). But go anywhere, or anywhen, else, and it's not even close. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 01:59 AM |
| 8 | Losing friends and support for supporting men's rights... despite being a man.Hooray for folks going out of their way to be dicks for no reason. And don't give me some sort of "oh I'm just telling it like it is" - do you honestly think any trans person on Earth has not had that said to them a thousand times over? | /r/MensRights | 18/12/16 01:57 AM |
| 1 | How would TRP account for a woman like me?My experience with TRP people is mostly online. The one in-person encounter I've had was so ridiculous I couldn't have strawmanned it if I tried. I'm referring to things like this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 06:42 AM |
| 2 | How would TRP account for a woman like me?It's pretty well established as a measure for prenatal testosterone exposure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 04:38 AM |
| 1 | How would TRP account for a woman like me?My experience with TRP's approach is not to find women who want to submit, but to find women that they can make submit, which is not at all the same thing. A dominant-inclined woman with low self-esteem might be pushed into such a role, for example, but she's not likely to be happy with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 04:20 AM |
| 3 | How would TRP account for a woman like me?Always interesting to see that particular issue. I'm a trans woman and my index is about 10% longer than my ring, which is way off to the long side even for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 04:19 AM |
| 5 | How would TRP account for a woman like me?Of course it does, and I've offered the same criticism when I've seen it on the other end too. I get really sick of the "if you don't agree with me completely you must be agree with everything other people who disagree with me says" mentality. But that door swings both ways, and you can't complain about feminist types over-generalizing and then turn right around and do it right back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 04:16 AM |
| 2 | How would TRP account for a woman like me?At eight-digit guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 04:12 AM |
| 3 | How would TRP account for a woman like me?If you want someone who enjoys a more submissive role, why not, I dunno, find someone who does rather than trying to shoehorn someone who doesn't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 04:06 AM |
| 2 | How would TRP account for a woman like me?AWALT should not be taken literally—it’s just a heuristic. Then it should be MWALT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/16 04:05 AM |
| 7 | Transitioning – A Red Pill Lens on TransgenderismSmall personal samples mean very, very little. They're biased by nature when it's friends or acquaintances, and even if they weren't, n=3 would tell you pretty much nothing. | /r/RedPillWomen | 22/11/16 03:53 AM |
| 9 | Transitioning – A Red Pill Lens on TransgenderismIt's worth pointing out that "gender identity is hard-wired" is not necessarily the same thing as "50s gender roles are hard-wired". | /r/RedPillWomen | 22/11/16 02:48 AM |
| 7 | Transitioning – A Red Pill Lens on TransgenderismThe best defense against these influences is to give boys clear and tangible examples of masculinity. Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support the claim that presence or lack of male role models has any influence on whether someone is trans? | /r/RedPillWomen | 22/11/16 02:38 AM |
| 18 | Transitioning – A Red Pill Lens on TransgenderismThe idea again comes back to the egalitarian presumption of a blank-slate equalism and a rejection of gender as a binary determination. No, it really doesn't. One of the major case studies around gender identity pretty conclusively shows that it's set prior to social factors. David Reimer, whose penis was damaged in a botched circumcision in infancy, was raised as a girl - in fact, raised with exactly the sort of treatment that you apparently think all trans people were raised with (more on this… | /r/RedPillWomen | 22/11/16 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Why I don't read politicial news or talk about politics.You are caught up in a sea of political agendas where everyone tries to modify the information for their own personal gain. Sure, but that doesn't mean that one of them isn't correct. | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/16 09:43 AM |
| 2 | Why I don't read politicial news or talk about politics.In reality, we don't know the truth. We don't know the relationship between the mother and the child. The mother's affidavit included the fact that she was not caring for the kid and had no intention of ever having any further relationship with her. I think that, at least, paints a pretty good picture. It's good not to get too caught up, but that also doesn't mean there's not a right answer to be found. | /r/MGTOW | 19/11/16 11:42 PM |
| 3 | Alert - racist "white nationalist" brigadingCheers for keeping an eye on your own, OP. In divided times, we've got to watch our friends carefully, because our enemies can't. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/16 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Leftist/Liberals on gender...Gender roles are a social construct. Gender identity, as far as we can currently tell, is at least partially not. | /r/MGTOW | 29/09/16 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Trying to sort my feelings about my family, apparently I am an asshole for distancing myself from their negative tendencies. Drug addicts, transgenders, and mental illness.I just feel like had he not grown up in fucked up circumstances with a real dad, he wouldn't be going down this road. Say it with me, folks. Being trans. Is not. Caused. By a lack. Of role models. | /r/askTRP | 17/09/16 01:35 AM |
| 6 | Governments, institutions, sports, etc. should only care about biological sex, not genderit's about how you shouldn't be able to compete in female sports as a man simply by claiming you're a woman because you think so... I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise, and the athletic organizations that allow trans competitors all require hormones (which are what mediate athletic differences). | /r/MensRights | 12/09/16 08:52 AM |
| 6 | Governments, institutions, sports, etc. should only care about biological sex, not genderI think you may have an oversimplified idea of what a 'sex change' entails. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/16 08:17 AM |
| 7 | Governments, institutions, sports, etc. should only care about biological sex, not genderYou're ignoring the fact that many aspects of sex - particularly those relevant to, say, medical care, athletics, etc. - can be and are changed by transition. For example, if you run a trans woman's blood tests using male reference ranges, you're going to get back a paper that says "OH SHIT EVERYTHING'S FUCKED". | /r/MensRights | 12/09/16 07:43 AM |
| 2 | (S)he came out as trans...If, on the other hand, you consider yourself to be a man, but one who acts and dresses like a woman, your advice is useless here since the number of women who would find that attractive is stupendously small. If you say so. I have a girlfriend, and the pick of several more. | /r/askTRP | 04/07/16 10:27 PM |
| 2 | (S)he came out as trans...Again, if you're a woman, you're advice is not welcome or useful here. If, on the other hand, you are a man, but prefer to act and dress like a woman, your advice is also not welcome here. OP seems to have found it helpful. | /r/askTRP | 04/07/16 10:09 PM |
| 3 | (S)he came out as trans...If you're a woman, your input really isn't terribly germane or useful in a TRP context. That could basically be the motto of the sub, right there. If your advice can't stand up to the mere personal testimony of random women, how good is it? since advice on how men can optimize their sexual strategy while wearing a dress isn't terribly meaningful. Why? Do those men suddenly not have any interest in dating? Sometimes there're things that are important to you, and you want to route around them. | /r/askTRP | 04/07/16 09:50 PM |
| 1 | (S)he came out as trans...No, I knew I was trans beforehand. But I had the internal contradiction of: I think I am a woman. Women are X. I am not X. Ultimately, getting rid of the second resolved that conflict. | /r/askTRP | 03/07/16 08:27 PM |
| 1 | (S)he came out as trans...'That gay scale' is the Kinsey scale (it goes from 0 to 6, not 0 to 7, but close enough!). Just kind of weird trying to reconcile that with how I view myself. I still want to be the all-male fit confident guy... but maybe also banging a guy too. It's not really how I think of gay people. Turns out stereotypes are frequently inaccurate. Plenty of gay dudes are, well, dudes. Know what I mean? I do, yeah. I'm trans myself (though in the other direction), and when I was first coming to terms with it… | /r/askTRP | 03/07/16 08:20 PM |
| 0 | (S)he came out as trans...You are a known reddit tranny who likes to lecture others on tranny issues. FJ owned you on his podcast. FJ? Is that the borderline neo-nazi bunch I did an interview with like a year-plus ago? I guess they finally posted it. Now you are here in a Red Pill sub, where you have never posted before I actually have been here before, though not often. Do you have like a bat signal that shines in the air any time a tranny related post is made? More or less, yes. | /r/askTRP | 03/07/16 08:17 PM |
| 3 | (S)he came out as trans...I’ve always seen myself as a fully masculine, red-blooded guy That doesn't preclude being gay, you know. But I think it's more likely that you're just not 100% absolutely totally all the time heterosexual, and that being with someone you know and like can slip through the 1% crack, than that you're secretly gay and didn't realize. | /r/askTRP | 03/07/16 08:09 PM |
| 3 | How can I convince my three-year-old they're transgender?Obvious literary troll is obvious. | /r/MGTOW | 30/06/16 12:56 AM |
| 3 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?So again: you're saying we should pass a law with the idea that we'll break it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 02:03 PM |
| 5 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?So you think trans women should be able to use the ladies' room...and support a law banning them from doing so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 01:37 PM |
| 4 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?I mean, it's not surprising that you're not onboard with bathroom access, since you're not onboard with trans folk at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 12:44 PM |
| 3 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?aslong as said transwoman didnt genuinely make them feel uneasy. A non-passing trans woman will make a certain segment of the population uneasy by nature, though. these bills wouldnt even be needed if wasnt for this recent transgender craze going on right now. Before this most people were indifferent of transgenders the trans community brought all this attention on themselves and now cry about the backlash its brought them. This is one of the most baffling arguments I've ever seen. "Well, you're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 11:56 AM |
| 6 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?I certainly wouldn't make such a claim. I don't think that redpill's absurd misogyny follows from the concession that there are probably some differences between the drives of men and of women, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 11:53 AM |
| 13 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?Point one: you're basically saying "see, this law won't hurt anyone because people can just break it without being caught!" Point two: Not all trans people pass. Point three: Your claim that "if she behaves well" the other women won't object is (a) demonstrably false based on the existence of these bills in the first place and (b) still gives non-trans women the final say about what trans women can and can't do. Point four: Someone feeling uncomfortable is not sufficient reason to deny someone e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 10:53 AM |
| 16 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?Effective prevention should be a priority. But as the middle three cases demonstrate, blocking trans folk never did anything to prevent this stuff from happening in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 09:20 AM |
| 17 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?Assault and sexual harassment are still illegal, and they can perfectly well be reported for that sort of thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 08:48 AM |
| 20 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?The first case was a man who didn't like these laws and was trying to attack them. The second involved an already serial offender who'd done the same thing even prior to these laws existing, because people intent on sex crimes don't stop because there's a sign on the door. Third and fourth cases were men disguising themselves, which they could already do before these laws existed, and the fifth was a co-ed bathroom, not a trans-inclusive one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 07:37 AM |
| 8 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?In many cases trans women actually have lower testosterone than cis women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 07:35 AM |
| 7 | Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women?If I wanted to stare at boobs, I could stare at my own in the privacy of my own home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 07:34 AM |
| 4 | Great Feminist Fails: The females these days remind me of the pigs from ‘Animal Farm’ (males were called pigs in a previous reddit post)This shit right here is why no one takes you seriously. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/16 10:34 AM |
| 3 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?"Ruminating may possibly have some connection that no data actually shows to this part of the brain that may or may not be responsible for someone being trans" isn't even 'may show it'. It's three stages of speculation in a row. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 06:54 AM |
| 3 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?Yes, that is what it says. That is what I said it said as well. Uh, no, you said it "shows that trannies learn to tranny merely due to thinking about it constantly." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 06:43 AM |
| 4 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?Remember kids, angsty internet teenagers are very representative of the general public. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 06:29 AM |
| 3 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?aHR is 'adjusted Hazard Rate'. It's the ratio of prevalence in the study population (here, trans people) to controls (the general public) - so "aHR 19.1" would mean the study population is 19.1x as likely to have a particular condition. Notice the width of the confidence interval: 5.8-62.9, meaning there's very low certainty in that width. Keep in mind also that the study population was not random and had other demographic differences. For example, the trans participants were much more likely to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 06:28 AM |
| 2 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?'Dozens' of surgeries? Even the most surgically-heavy transition is like...four, barring some extreme complications. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 06:25 AM |
| 6 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?If you give someone with body dysmorphia plastic surgery they might be happy with it They aren't. This isn't an unstudied question. See here and here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 06:24 AM |
| 5 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?http://cercor.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/11/2525.long "One highly speculative thought" =/= "this definitely happens". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 06:23 AM |
| 4 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?The entire article of which the following is an extract appeared in Triple Helix (UK), Autumn 2000, p6-8 You're citing a 16-year-old article that is itself quoting a study by a guy whose center was just shut down over things like calling his charges "hairy little vermin". http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-science-of-transgender-20140730 Your own article says "Rather, a growing body of research is pointing to biological origins." and concludes that "Trying to identify causes, whether t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 01:04 AM |
| 5 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?That's a lifetime rate. The annual rate post-transition is only slightly elevated from that of the general public. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 12:14 AM |
| 5 | Is too much blind acceptance hurting our society?but studies have proven this to be nurture rather than nature. Uh, citation needed? I can offer several to the contrary. Boys raised as girls due to genital abnormality still express male identity at much higher rates than their XX peers. Transgenderism has high concordance between twins, with the twin of a trans person around a hundred times more likely than the general public to also be trans. The correlation still exists for siblings, but is much weaker, suggesting a genetic factor. Female-as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 12:13 AM |
| 2 | A Gravely Serious ProblemIf by 'biological woman' you mean 'was born female-bodied', then no, I'm not (although trans men are a thing and they would fit the description you're trying to give). I'm a trans woman, meaning I transitioned to being a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/16 08:47 PM |
| 1 | A Gravely Serious ProblemWhat is it you don't understand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/16 08:43 PM |
| 2 | A Gravely Serious ProblemWoman, and I sure as hell didn't 'become' trans because I dated a girl who'd had sex before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/16 08:41 PM |
| 2 | A Gravely Serious ProblemWhat the shit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/16 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Question about transgenderi.e. The scientific definition? Several different scientific definitions exist even for sex, much less for gender. But the point here is that 'man' or 'woman' as used in the context of trans people refers to gender and not to sex. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/15 02:21 PM |
| 0 | Question about transgenderOnly if we accepted your definition of what being a woman is or isn't, which we don't. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/15 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Question about transgenderDelusion requires a false belief about the material world. Saying "I want boobs" cannot be delusional by definition. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/15 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Question about transgenderAt what point is demanding someone treat you as something you aren't acceptable? I'm not. I am demanding no treatment that ignores any fact about my (non-brain) body. I simply don't think the state of my body determines whether I am a man or a woman. Why should the aforementioned peter pan not be treated as peter pan? Because his belief is delusional, and delusional people do not benefit from having their delusions humored. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/15 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Question about transgenderRarity shows that it does not affect normal males/females. Yes, but 'normal' (in the sense of 'the great majority of') people aren't trans either. Pointing to a highly uncommon incidence of a man being from a family that suffered from all sorts of debilitating conditions such as infertility and mosaicism doesn't in any way change the definition of sex. He's still a highly mutated male. Okay, then here's my question: in what situation is treating that person as male useful? | /r/MensRights | 20/12/15 01:16 PM |
| 2 | Question about transgenderBeing rare isn't really relevant. Trans people are rare, so we're inherently talking about unusual cases to begin with. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/15 08:42 PM |
| 5 | Question about transgenderso I highly doubt any such case has occurred Here ya go. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/15 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Question about transgenderOkay. By that definition, men can give birth. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/15 01:34 PM |
| 2 | Transgender and young menYou do know that (a) very few people would ever claim that: Not a walking male stereotype? Oh well, you must really be a trans-woman or genderqueer or nonbinary whatever the latest label is. and that (b) many of us were raised in plenty conservative households, right? | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 11:07 PM |
| 7 | Question about transgenderNot at all. You could so define "cat". It would be nonstandard and not at all useful, but in principle, sure. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 10:59 PM |
| 3 | Question about transgenderIf i define "cat" as a black animal that flies around and goes "caw, caw" then there is not much point in arguing about whether or not Poe wrote a poem about a cat! Yes, exactly. what gives you and your ilk the right to re-define "man" and "woman" for the rest of the world? Who's doing it for you? I'm giving you reasons you should do so yourself. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 10:46 PM |
| 4 | Question about transgenderObviously you're not looking for a real answer, but I'll go ahead and give one anyway for the sake of anyone else who might be reading. I need to lay a few philosophical bricks first, though. Point one: definitions are fundamentally arbitrary. They're how we use a word to represent a group of words: for example, we define "square" to mean "quadrilateral with four sides". If I define "square" to mean "the locus of all points with distance from a fixed point less than a fixed value", I'm not wrong… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 04:28 PM |
| 3 | Question about transgenderA fair number of not-trans women lack one or more of those characteristics. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 03:49 PM |
| 3 | Question about transgenderTaking the idea of sex being a strictly reproductive act Which it isn't to humans or to most other primates. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Question about transgenderThe definition shows that hermaphrodism can be the natural state (and it is in many species) But not in humans or any remotely closely related animals. The most closely related animals I can think of off the top of my head that display any hermaphroditic traits normally are worms, and we're quite distant relatives of theirs. Go be overly sensitive somewhere else and make assumptions about other people. I'm not being overly sensitive, I'm being precise, which is what you should be in a technical … | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 04:26 AM |
| 5 | Question about transgenderYou're coming from the assumption that men are by default attracted to women and vice-versa. Given that a substantial chunk - between 5 and 10% openly so and probably many more repressed - of the public is non-straight, that's not a great assumption. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 04:18 AM |
| 2 | Question about transgenderGay falls under "other sexual characteristics". Uh....no, it doesn't. 'Sexual' in this context means 'related to biological sex', not 'relating to sexual intercourse'. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 04:03 AM |
| 3 | Question about transgenderYou are still not a woman The question is why you make this claim. What do you mean by "woman", exactly? It's probably harder to define than you think. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 03:47 AM |
| 3 | Question about transgenderHermaphrodite is seen as a derogatory term but it's just a term defining one group. To a scientist it makes complete sense. Hermaphrodite is derogatory as applied to intersex people because it's generally incorrect. Hermaphroditism is extremely, extraordinarily rare in humans, with only a handful of documented cases. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 03:46 AM |
| 0 | Question about transgenderIf by "the feminazis" you mean the APA and numerous clinical studies, sure. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 12:10 AM |
| 9 | Question about transgenderHi OP. I'm a trans woman (speaking loosely: I started out male-bodied and transitioned to female). Not a regular around here, but your post came up on my "trans thread radar". Believing that Peter Pan exists, or that I am Peter Pan, would be a delusional belief - a factual statement about objective physical reality that doesn't line up with observed fact. The equivalent would be believing that I have breasts when, in fact, I do not, which I didn't believe at all before transitioning. I knew very… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 12:08 AM |
| 2 | Are feminists really sex positive?While this is naive, I understand the idealism, but I think it vilifies and dismisses men and women who simply don't want to have sex with a lot of people. You don't need to bang every guy around the block to be sex positive, you just need a healthy, responsible and intelligent approach to sexual relationships and how you want to have sex. I'm not sure how you get there. "It's okay to have lots of sex" does not imply "it isn't okay to have a small amount of sex". The point is that sex is healthy… | /r/MensRights | 10/11/15 09:03 PM |
| 2 | How does the red pill feel about trans men (FTM)?An opinion you base on...? | /r/askTRP | 10/11/15 06:55 AM |
| 5 | How does the red pill feel about trans men (FTM)?Ya'll do know that "trans" doesn't mean "super duper gay", right? | /r/askTRP | 10/11/15 06:25 AM |
| 5 | How does the red pill feel about trans men (FTM)?The opposite of 'trans' is 'cis', not 'straight'. A straight trans man is someone who was assigned female ("it's a girl!") at birth, identifies as male, and is attracted to women. | /r/askTRP | 10/11/15 06:24 AM |
| 0 | Can too much education be a turn off?No, as a lesbian-leaning trans woman, I'd missed that. | /r/seduction | 17/10/15 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Can too much education be a turn off?many of em bisexual or even transgender god knows why God forbid! | /r/seduction | 17/10/15 06:31 AM |
| 3 | How do blue pillers address the contradiction between feminists and the transgender movement on gender being a social construct?There's a stereotype that we're all really "out there". Most of us aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 06:39 AM |
| 1 | How do blue pillers address the contradiction between feminists and the transgender movement on gender being a social construct?What about it was unexpected? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/15 09:00 PM |
| 7 | How do blue pillers address the contradiction between feminists and the transgender movement on gender being a social construct?If I needed a one-sentence answer, I'd say "both men and women have issues that need addressing, but womens' are significantly more alarming". On the more 'men's rights' side (not that I'd affiliate myself with the kind of people who generally fly that flag), it is true that people have often been much friendlier and more supportive of my emotions since I transitioned. As one example among many, I was telling a very emotional story (she'd asked if transition'd been worth it) after work to a co-w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/15 08:28 PM |
| 9 | How do blue pillers address the contradiction between feminists and the transgender movement on gender being a social construct?I transitioned because I was confident that I'd be happier. I was correct. But as best as I can judge the current science on the subject, yes, I do think that - or more precisely, I think a few particular portions of my brain developed in female-typical ways due to hormone abnormalities during pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/15 08:09 AM |
| 9 | How do blue pillers address the contradiction between feminists and the transgender movement on gender being a social construct?and that if we just encouraged girls to go into STEM fields and to pursue other traditionally male interests they would be just as good at it on average as men. The problem is that this completely undermines decades of feminist thought. They've just inadvertently admitted that there is indeed such a thing as a "female brain." The fact that there are physical differences between mens' and womens' brains (and there are) does not mean that those differences need, or do, align with 50s gender roles.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/15 07:52 AM |
| 15 | Why do radical feminists refer to MtF transgenders as "MRA's that are trying to invade women's spaces"?In their view, trans women are men who are demanding access to female spaces. Of course, in their view, we're also all pedophile rapists who'll stop at nothing until the entire world is sexist, so. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/15 11:13 PM |
| 3 | If gender is 'just what's between your legs', what is the point of being a trans person?It's the same as the difference between "Sarah is gay" and "Sarah buys flowers for another woman". The latter is a culturally-sanctioned expression of the former. Sarah can be gay without buying flowers for another woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 07:56 PM |
| 8 | If gender is 'just what's between your legs', what is the point of being a trans person?You're conflating gender identity with gender roles. They are not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?I've been called a shitlord face-to-face by a friends friend, just for asking for a source. So have I (well, they didn't use the word, but still). Tumblr people do go outside sometimes. | /r/MensRights | 14/07/15 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?I am of the opinion that class is BY FAR the most important metric of gauging "privilege." I would tend to agree, but what I think you forget is that other factors influence class. For instance, had I come out two years sooner, I would not have finished my degree because of the withdrawl of any support from my family, severely hampering my prospects both in education and in the workforce. It's even worse for racial groups, for whom this discrimination can compound generation-over-generation. The… | /r/MensRights | 14/07/15 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?is that the scream for privilege vs. oppression in regards to systematic biases means that my entire class is evil. ....no. Just...no. Anyone saying that is legitimately nuts but very few people actually are. | /r/MensRights | 14/07/15 12:06 AM |
| -2 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?Privilege, by definition, is benefit beyond what the majority of, or most, people get. Are we really going to get into debating definitions here? Fine. No, it isn't. Even in the more common definition: a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people. Nothing about that requires a minority. And 'immunity' is awfully close to lack of discrimination. As for white folks cira 1850... well, 'white folks' is too broad a category. the Irish sla… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 11:48 PM |
| -1 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?So you're saying that people aren't entitled to not being kicked out of their families. ...no. There are many things to which everyone should be entitled that are currently only commonly given to various privileged classes. The more important point, which you continue to ignore, is that accusing people of being "privileged" is not an effective way of helping trans-people. Privilege is not an "accusation". I went on to label a majority of feminists "privileged" due to their class (a real privileg… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 11:45 PM |
| 2 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?I can say that I would instantly assume the white cis male started the attack. And somehow this is my fault? The other person is different from him in every way and we are told that white cis men lash out at differences. We are always viewed as the oppressor. As the villain. We are responsible for every act of every white cis males dating back to the dawn of time. Insofar as this is true - and it is, though I suspect not as true as you'd say it is - it's pretty dumb. You'll get no argument from … | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 11:43 PM |
| 0 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?then those random idiots on tumblr are fucking everything up for the rest of ya'll. No shit. better work on your PR Those people do not speak for me. I have no capability to shut them up, and I work very hard to provide a reasoned and factually-supported activism. What more do you want from me, exactly? | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 11:35 PM |
| 3 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?I have absolutely no idea what happened in that scenario. It's a strawman at best. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 11:08 PM |
| 0 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?The lack of discrimination does not, in any way, equate to privilege. That's literally exactly what the word means in this context. Are you arguing that, say, white folks weren't privileged over black circa 1850 because they were a majority? | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 10:58 PM |
| -1 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?The problem is that people DO interpret it as meaning "universally better off," or more specifically, "having benefits that I did not earn and am not entitled to." ...you do. Or are you arguing that, say, not getting kicked out of your family is not a benefit? It is not my fault that you have a lousy way of communicating your message. I think I've been quite clear about my meaning. Not much fun when the shoe's on the other foot, is it? ;) I think you think this is some sort of clever criticism, … | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 10:54 PM |
| -1 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?No one really talks like that outside of a few random idiots on Tumblr, you know. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 10:09 PM |
| 0 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?Irrelevant. I may have faced the same or worse difficulties for different reasons. I think you misunderstand what 'privilege' means in this context. It doesn't mean you're universally better off. It means that you are not targeted with a specific kind of systemic discrimination, and as a result are less situated to see said discrimination. Feminists themselves talk about it frequently. Conversely, the majority of "straight white males" are not well off ie privileged. I wonder sometimes if you re… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?it makes implicit assumptions about the kind of life a person has lived and the hardships they may or may not have suffered, I'll ask you again: have you faced any of the listed difficulties for being cis? Even if it's true in certain contexts it just comes across as an accusation. It puts people in boxes according to sex/race/gender etc. ... That's probably because most feminists are spoiled rich girls. And irony. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 09:34 PM |
| -1 | Does 'cis-male' come off as derogatory to you?I mean, that's an assumption that I even identify as a male, let alone as a "cis-male". The "cis" isn't something you directly identify with. "Cis" just means your identification matches your sex as assigned-at-birth ("it's a boy!"), in the same way that "trans" means my identification does not match my sex as assigned at birth. It's another way to differentiate the real man from the transman, which feminism is suppose to look down upon a everyone is meant to be equal. Cis men and trans men are … | /r/MensRights | 13/07/15 08:53 PM |
| 3 | I have experienced both sides of the gender spectrum as a Trans*MTF (AMA)One occurs when masculinization happens when it shouldn't, the other occurs when it doesn't happen when it should. There's no particular reason there would be a balance between the two. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/15 06:35 PM |
| -2 | CMV: Trans People Legitimize Gender EssentialismHow is "gender identity is biologically determined" a 'value concept'? It has physical biological markers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/15 01:02 AM |
| -1 | CMV: Trans People Legitimize Gender EssentialismOut of curiosity, what would constitute "proof" to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/15 12:56 AM |
| -2 | CMV: Trans People Legitimize Gender EssentialismSixteen citations from a variety of sources and methodologies does seem pretty decent to me, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/15 12:05 AM |
| -5 | CMV: Trans People Legitimize Gender EssentialismIt's almost like my beliefs align with the science on the subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/15 12:02 AM |
| -1 | CMV: Trans People Legitimize Gender EssentialismYou don't see how "the notion that men and women have inherent, unique, and natural attributes that qualify them as their separate genders" would lead one to develop different initial strategies for interacting with either men or women? That's not at all what redpill is about, and you know it. But then, you shouldn't listen to me anyway, since I'm a "cumdumpter" per this heavily upvoted post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/15 02:53 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Trans People Legitimize Gender EssentialismOkay. In principle, I'll grant that it's very likely there are differences between men and women, but that has nothing to do with trans people and certainly still does not justify redpill philosophy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/15 02:29 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Trans People Legitimize Gender EssentialismAt least many trans people feel sufficient duress from the juxtaposition of their body and gender identity to motivate them to go transition in some way. Sometimes even opting for extremely invasive and expensive surgeries. I was referring to the second half of the statement ("...as well as gender roles..."), not the first. In any event, you still seem to be able to grasp the abstract concepts of essentially male and essentially female such that you can differentiate which of your behaviors are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/15 01:50 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Trans People Legitimize Gender Essentialismhowever don't you suppose that gender identity and gender roles are substantially linked? Sure. The latter is a set of culturally sanctioned expressions for the former. A trans woman wearing a dress is akin to a gay man getting down on one knee to propose. But neither is necessary. My question is whether or not the bodily form and gendered behaviors are substantially linked such to justify using them as baseline assumptions before additional information is gathered about the person. I would gene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/15 01:24 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Trans People Legitimize Gender EssentialismGender identity has innate components, but gender roles are social constructs. Many trans people do not conform to the stereotypes of their identified gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/15 12:22 PM |
| 2 | BBC: 'If you oppose transgenderism then you're a bigot.'Can you define precisely what you mean by feminism in the context of that statement? | /r/MensRights | 29/05/15 11:48 AM |
| 5 | BBC: 'If you oppose transgenderism then you're a bigot.'No need. That's just one of my recent posts, I have around a dozen more studies that weren't relevant to that particular post. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/15 02:50 AM |
| 4 | BBC: 'If you oppose transgenderism then you're a bigot.'Spend some time comparing psychology and social science studies on gender identity to those from medical science. You realize I've been studying and debating this issue for years, right? I've got a whole file of studies on the subject, and they say the same thing. Her gender identity is not masculine and neither is her behaviour. ...uh, what part of her behavior is 'not masculine'? She's a rough and tumblr gearhead with no interest in basically any aspect of traditional femininity. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/15 02:13 AM |
| 7 | BBC: 'If you oppose transgenderism then you're a bigot.'No, it isn't, because sex change surgery is not about gender roles. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/15 10:24 PM |
| 4 | BBC: 'If you oppose transgenderism then you're a bigot.'They are distinct but you won't find a lot of prominent voices within the feminist or social science community that would consider gender identity to be a biologically influenced outcome. Uh...yes, you will. It's the dominant explanation. Furthermore, gender identity and gendered behaviour are inextricably linked. No, they aren't. A friend of mine is an extremely dysphoric trans woman who has pretty much no feminine interests at all. She wouldn't be caught dead in a dress, and is much more at ho… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/15 10:15 PM |
| 7 | BBC: 'If you oppose transgenderism then you're a bigot.'Your objection here depends on conflating gender identity with gender roles. They are distinct. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/15 09:49 PM |
| 9 | BBC: 'If you oppose transgenderism then you're a bigot.'Well, long story short - feminists believe in social conditioning. Not really related to the rest of your post, but stuff like this is why MRAs get a bad name. You want to advocate for men's issues, fine, I have no beef with that (I do so myself). But when you set yourselves up in opposition to, as opposed to a complement to, feminism, then you run into issues. It's nature vs. nurture: 'masculinity is nurtured, it's social conditioning and boys have been taught to be boys and girls have been tau… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/15 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't the sphere of Men's Rights/Masculism fight for the rights of trans men, gay men, black men, or male rape victims (including prison rape victims)?Yes, I'm well aware of the repeal of DADT. I'm asking for a source on MRAs having anything to do with it. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/15 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't the sphere of Men's Rights/Masculism fight for the rights of trans men, gay men, black men, or male rape victims (including prison rape victims)?gay mens rights activists have achieved a great teal. Dont ask dont tell, gone. ...what. Source, please? | /r/MensRights | 15/05/15 02:00 PM |
| 3 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?I'm saying the surgeries are costly, lengthy, dangerous, and not inherently effective in convincing people of a transformation. One, "the surgeries" are far from all there is to transition. I've not had any surgery - the only medical intervention I've taken is hormones. The only surgery I'm even seriously considering is vocal surgery, since keeping my voice up is a considerable amount of effort sometimes. Two, the notion that all we care about is "convincing" people is misguided. I was happy wit… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/15 12:52 AM |
| 6 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?Its not wrong to want to be opposite sex, but it is to relay an artificial means of drugs and surgeries to achieve such physical characteristics. How is that wrong? It is provably beneficial to the people involved and hurts no one. Your biology is part of who you are My biology, at this point, is overwhelmingly female. Chromosomes do essentially nothing in an adult, hormones run the show. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/15 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?But I assume since your all about letting people believe that theirs something inherently wrong with the body your born with it is a healthy attitude to take. Wasn't the foundation of the gay rights movement about loving yourself for who you are, now apparently you need years worth of costly, dangerous, and lengthy surgeries to be properly you. My tax dollars goes towards funding peoples sexual realignment surgeries because they got it listed as a mental health issue. Yes now it does coverage an… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/15 07:25 AM |
| 3 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?I'm saying any claim of patriarchy is bullshit. Oh, well. Then there's not much to talk about. You might, MAYBE argue it's bullshit in the modern West over the last couple decades. But to outright claim it's never existed? That's just so flagrantly contrary to fact that I don't even know where to begin, because we are clearly operating off entirely different standards of proof. I've repeatedly stated how fixing these issues is complex but here you come in simplifying my statements so you can val… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/15 06:16 AM |
| 2 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?Women do have it better but I've no MRA that would say they have perfect. For fuck sakes women are mounting large protests in Afghanistan (over valid reasons and I wish them all the luck) and that's meant to be one the countries people point to as an example of a patriarchal society. Whats the government response? Arrests eighteen men suspected of witnessing the occurrence. See, this is where you completely lose me. Are you seriously claiming that women in Afghanistan are the ones holding the ca… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/15 04:51 AM |
| 4 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?If you aren't willing to even to discuss that, than fuck you and fuck off. I'd love to discuss that. But MRAs, that I've met and that I see here, don't. It's not "hey, how can we fix this particular issue", it's "see this is just another way that everything is perfect for women and horrible for men". The only MRAs I've ever known in person - and I do know a couple - tend to be phenomenal assholes who have incredibly entitled attitudes toward women. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/15 03:19 AM |
| 2 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?My problem with the MRM is not that I don't think men have issues. I do, and I advocate for them any time I observe them (see this post on eli5 a few days ago). My problem is that that then translates to a denial of the very real issues women have, which means I have the same issue with you that I do with the feminist community. There's also an alarming amount of pseudo-redpill/PUA philosophy here - take this current thread, for example. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/15 06:10 PM |
| -1 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?I monitor trans-related threads across Reddit, and this came up. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/15 02:55 AM |
| -11 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?In the sense that I believe men have problems? Sure, plenty of us exist. In the sense that I'd touch the men's rights movement with a ten foot pole? Not so much. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/15 11:30 PM |
| 3 | Why aren't men allowed to self-identify as nice-guys?Men don't like putting their women in danger of assault from other strange men, we punish sexual offenses pretty strongly transdegenerate or no. I really feel like this is something I should not have to say, but you do understand that I'm not going to the bathroom for the purposes of sexual assault, right? I go in there to pee. I'll also point out that your alternative is a ladies' bathroom with trans men, beards, booming voices, testosterone and body hair and all. Everyone seems to forget about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Why aren't men allowed to self-identify as nice-guys?And even then, chromosomes bud. You mean like the chromosomes of this mostly XY woman who gave birth to an entirely XY daughter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 01:35 PM |
| 5 | Why aren't men allowed to self-identify as nice-guys?It is a current issue, yes. Conservative groups lost on gay rights and need a new boogeyman, and we're it, so there's been a huge rash of anti-trans legislation lately. We fight these bills for two reasons: One, they give us a choice between outing ourselves and opening ourselves up to considerable harassment by using a bathroom obviously incongruous with our appearance, or breaking the law with potential for quite substantial penalty. The bill in my state legislature, for example, would punish … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 01:47 AM |
| 14 | If gender is nothing but a social construct, how do you explain transsexuals?Gender roles are, by and large, constructs. Gender identity is not. The analogy I use is sexuality. Obviously being attracted to people is not a construct in and of itself (although how you categorize it might be), since sexual attraction predates society as a whole. But how we express that sexuality is often socialized, and that socialization can be internalized and very meaningful. You can, for instance, attach great meaning to buying someone you love flowers, even though flowers are not inher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/15 03:18 AM |
| 6 | What does it mean for the mind of a woman to be in a man's body or vice versa if men and women have the same brains?then you accept the cognitive differences between the male and female experience. I do accept that there are differences, having personally experienced the difference just from hormones. But that need not mean that those differences are anywhere close to what redpill thinks they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/15 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Where do Transsexuals fit into this?I dunno. I experienced a lot of changes in how I felt attraction as I transitioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 08:22 PM |
| 2 | How do you feel about all-women's colleges accepting trans students?Do you think that someone going on about "terms straight out of a humanities professors dome" is making that distinction? And that's setting aside that the WHO is also decades behind on this. Remember that they still classify having a kink as a mental disorder. They only declassified homosexuality in the 90s, twenty years after the DSM did. Under their definition, gender identity would be an aspect of sex, not of gender, which still renders Reginleifer's objection moot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/15 02:17 PM |
| 8 | How do you feel about all-women's colleges accepting trans students?It seems to me he is asserting that gender is fixed at birth. Um, no. He's arguing that sex equals gender. I'm not sure I could find any three words that more succinctly reject trans people wholesale than those three. There's not much to say after that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/15 06:05 AM |
| 13 | How do you feel about all-women's colleges accepting trans students?I think that trans rights is doomed to fail not because of a failure to indoctrinate, but because it will be unable to handle the blatant cases of fraud that will pop up. But those cases haven't popped up, and we've had rights already in a lot of places. I have no problem with some baseline standard - say, to have started some form of medical transition - but this really isn't as much of an issue as a lot of people think. which will bring in the "post-op" standard You act like that's not already… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/15 05:09 AM |
| 2 | As a female to male trans person, I fully support trans mens rights.And they all went to the police, and nothing was ever done? I find that very hard to believe. Yes. The case I referred to went to her military superiors, others spoke directly to civilian police. And yeah, I found it hard to believe at first too, but after hearing similar stories from people who have no incentive to lie, have no communication with each other, have vastly differing political agendas, and live thousands of miles apart, it got hard to find reasons not to. Tell me - before you trans… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/15 11:38 PM |
| -3 | As a female to male trans person, I fully support trans mens rights.Actually no. It was Wyoming in 1869 A territory at the time, not a state. Women voting doesn't count as women voting? Not when they're there only in place of a man. Men who dodged the draft or did not sign up for selective service were disallowed numerous federal amenities, including voting, and sometimes jailed. Yeah, because it was illegal to do so. We deny criminals of various kinds the vote in many states even today. Whether or not it was a bad law - as I think we agree it was - that doesn't… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/15 11:24 PM |
| -3 | As a female to male trans person, I fully support trans mens rights.Actually some women could vote before the 19th amendment Yes, some could, because the 19th amendment was the end of the suffrage movement. But they couldn't along most of the Eastern seaboard. The first state to extend suffrage to women was Washington in 1910. For most of U.S. history, the vast majority of women were not permitted to vote. because some women owned property If you're referring to New Jersey at the founding of the country, they specifically denied that to women a few decades later… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/15 11:16 PM |
| 0 | As a female to male trans person, I fully support trans mens rights.What on earth does your gender have to do with whether people you know have been sexually assaulted? The people I know who have been are all, without exception, women. Again, it's amazing how all you had to do was change genders (admittedly, not easy, but that's not the point here) and suddenly half the people you know are grabbed off the streets, stripped, and beaten. I mean, it's not like they even have _different_experiences of sexual assault - same thing, every single time. These events occu… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/15 11:05 PM |
| -3 | As a female to male trans person, I fully support trans mens rights.Have you heard the arguments for why some don't think there was? Yeah, this isn't my first time on this sub. And when I see people denying clear and unambiguous problems I can see with no issue, I get real skeptical about their claims elsewhere. You realize that for most of history most men couldn't vote either, right? Right, because there were other forms of systemic bias than sexism. Sexism is not the only problem, that doesn't make it not a problem. But "some" is still better than "none". | /r/MensRights | 24/01/15 10:52 PM |
| -4 | As a female to male trans person, I fully support trans mens rights.Feminists make a lot of bullshit claims about women's issues. I'd guess most people here don't deny real women's issues - we just don't think they have very many, at least not in Western culture. And this is where we get into the disliking of trans people - because having seen both sides of the aisle, I can tell you that yeah, there are some very serious issues women face that I never worried about as a guy. To take one particularly flagrant example, the number of my acquaintances who've been se… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/15 10:24 PM |
| -4 | As a female to male trans person, I fully support trans mens rights.Which issues? Well, women's, if none other. I have a problem with you guys for the same reason I have one with mainstream feminism, you're two sides of the same short-sighted coin. I have no problem with advocating for men's issues or for women's issues, I have a problem with the desire to deny the corresponding issues for the other sex. See below, where we find out about how feminism has been "waging a war on the male sex" since before women had the right to vote. I don't see any redpill philos… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/15 09:29 PM |
| -3 | As a female to male trans person, I fully support trans mens rights.Well, as someone who's posted here before, I would go with "the replies". I mean hell, I think there're very real problems men face, and I'll call folks out if I see them being ignored. But I can't be a member of this community because I see just as much effort to dismiss other issues as I do to address legitimate issues for men. I mean, for fuck's sake, you have a sticky entitled "Feminism is morally reprehensible" that takes all of a few paragraphs to jump into straight up redpill philosophy. … | /r/MensRights | 24/01/15 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Non straight/cis people of this subreddit, what are issues that specifically involve you?Doesn't invalidate the fact this shit came from them The use of "cis-" and "trans-" as opposite prefixes came from the Romans around 2200 years ago, give or take. used instead of 'normal' or some such Yes, it is used instead of "normal" to avoid the connotations that normal/abnormal have. | /r/MensRights | 24/12/14 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Non straight/cis people of this subreddit, what are issues that specifically involve you?The "die cis scum" folks are idiots, and they're also quite rare. They're loud enough to get attention, but there really aren't very many of them - one of the reasons I work so hard keepin track of trans-related threads is to counteract them. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/14 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Non straight/cis people of this subreddit, what are issues that specifically involve you?Cis is a feminist ideation The radical feminists who strongly object to the term 'cis' would probably disagree with you. used to 'other' straight people. It exists because "straight" is not the opposite of "trans". Trans people can be straight, gay, bi, etc. just like cis people can. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/14 07:27 PM |
| 3 | Non straight/cis people of this subreddit, what are issues that specifically involve you?"Cis" is no more derogatory than "heterosexual" is. Cis and trans are both Latin, meaning (respectively) "on the same side as" and "across from", in the same way that hetero- and homo- are Greek meaning "different" and "the same". | /r/MensRights | 23/12/14 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Tell me if this sounds like bullshit or not before it gets deleted(continued from above) Feminism was inevitable. Equal rights are something I strongly am in support of. For men and women. That's why the sidebar contains articles like "Women, the most responsible teenager in the house", right? I mean, I suppose he supports equal rights while simultaneously considering women incapable of self-management, but this still rings just a liiiiiiiiittle bit hollow. Feminism is a sexual strategy. It puts women into the best position they can find, to select mates, to d… | /r/askTRP | 10/12/14 09:23 PM |
| 0 | Tell me if this sounds like bullshit or not before it gets deletedI'd say you are right - most of the men here have inadequacy issues. Just like the world at large. The difference is the men who are here are resolving theirs. Hardly. That's the other half of the Cosmo comparison: the most effective way to grow an ideology like redpill is for it to not work, but get you to believe that's your fault. In the same way that Cosmo can't give good dating tips or they lose their readers, redpill is a relatively large ideology because it doesn't actualy help. As a woma… | /r/askTRP | 10/12/14 09:23 PM |
| 0 | Tell me if this sounds like bullshit or not before it gets deletedI was raised in a highly conservative family who disowned me when I chose to transition. Still ended up trans, still think redpill is the Cosmo of men: a bunch of dudes with inadequacy issues pretending they know what they're talking about to other dudes with inadequacy issues. | /r/askTRP | 10/12/14 04:29 AM |
| 3 | Why does it seem like virtually every transgender person is male-to-female? Is there a red/blue/purple pill take on this?Yeah, no to basically all of that. Sexism is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more of a thing than I'd have thought it was prior to transition, and spoiler alert, men are not generally the disadvantaged group (although there are exceptions). I think you can make a real good case that women are firmly disadvantaged even in the developed West, and in the rest of the world there's no ambiguity at all. The examples you cite are evidence of femininity being viewed as weak and inferior, not of it being a privi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/14 10:19 PM |
| 14 | Why does it seem like virtually every transgender person is male-to-female? Is there a red/blue/purple pill take on this?We tend to pass less easily, tend to be more likely (as a result of growing up as dudes) to be the sorts of people to spend tons of time on the internet anyway, and people tend to flip out about us more often (which panics a suburban housewife more - someone with a dick in the women's locker room or someone without one in the men's?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/14 07:50 AM |
| 21 | The mutation and muting of gender expressionTolerance has grown for transsexual expression to the point that it's probably more socially acceptable and less socially disruptive than overt "conventional" gender sexual expression. A woman acting manly is less of a threat than a woman acting womanly. I'm gonna call a huge steaming pile of bullshit on that. Go out in a dress sometime, see how people respond to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/14 07:22 PM |
| 1 | OK Cupid rolls out "new genders", for whatever political or socio-engineering reason, they are winning.intelligence isn't tangible like a penis or a vagina, which are the things that make sexuality work. You're never attracted to anything but physical attributes? I call a big steaming pile of bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/14 06:54 AM |
| 2 | Circumcision complicates sex reassignment surgery: Is this making trans people a shield?Honestly, we're such a tiny segment of the population and this doesn't target us, it's not really the crux of the issue. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/14 02:43 PM |
| 2 | How many genders are there?shrug Well, all I can tell you is that you, with no data whatsoever, seem to be pre-judging my future misery. I'm not a tremendous fan of that, especially since such judgments tend to lead to further restrictions on a well-proven treatment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/14 11:00 PM |
| 1 | How many genders are there?Even if your premise (that many people who aren't "really" trans are transitioning) were true, we'd be seeing a surge of regrets just from HRT. Since we aren't...well, I'll let you finish the logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/14 10:48 PM |
| 0 | How many genders are there?You understand that there's a lot more to transitioning than surgery, yes? I imagine someone who wasn't trans would react rather badly to (depending on birth sex) sprouting breasts or their voice dropping an octave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/14 10:28 PM |
| 4 | How many genders are there?post op transgender surgery remorse wave Certainly suggests that, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/14 09:12 PM |
| 3 | How many genders are there?the term "transsexual" only dates back to the 60s. Actually it dates to 1950, and the first modern surgical reassignment to 1930. But again, do you have any evidence - any whatsoever - to suggest that transitioning is not the best option for these people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/14 08:49 PM |
| 4 | How many genders are there?The topic isn't at all new. The term is new, to avoid the implication (incorrect, but common) that 'transsexual' was a matter of sexuality ala 'heterosexual' or 'homosexual'. when the post op transgender surgery remorse wave hits ful steam There have been plenty of studies on this. Regrets are very rare, a few percent at most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/14 08:39 PM |
| 4 | How many genders are there?In 10 years the "transgender" fad will be over and forgotten, mark my words. This is something only getting old can tell you. You do understand that transgenderism has been recognized for a lot longer than ten years, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/14 08:04 PM |
| 2 | I'm at a crossroads. Part of me just wants to jump in, part of me doesn't want to be around people who think I'm an aberration.If OP is a typical trans man, he has XX chromosomes. The majority of individuals with XXY chromosomes (Kleinfelter's syndrome) have externally-male bodies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Male feminist's logical defense, or so they say!Oh come on now. Yes, there are a (very few) feminists who are that rabid, but that is hardly representative. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/14 03:24 PM |
| 1 | HeForShe TIME article and the resulting conversation has made me more aware of my own issues and I could use advice on maintaining positive conversations in the future.You're fighting an uphill battle identifying yourself as an MRA, because most of them don't think that. So you're going to be fighting established opinions. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/14 07:13 PM |
| 1 | HeForShe TIME article and the resulting conversation has made me more aware of my own issues and I could use advice on maintaining positive conversations in the future.The thing I think you need to be clear about is that caring about men's issues does not mean not caring about women's issues (or even claiming the two are on equal footing). | /r/MensRights | 29/09/14 06:39 PM |
| 2 | TransgenderismMy question is this - some girls are born taller than others, and you contend they have an advantage. So why do we not ban them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/14 02:08 AM |
| 2 | TransgenderismOkay, so - we're banning tall girls now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/14 02:00 AM |
| 3 | TransgenderismAlso, the skeletal structure is still there (e.g. average person who was born male has broad shoulders and height compared to someone born female). Yeah, but the effect there is arguable - one, we don't classify people based on their skeletal structure and two, heavier bones with weaker muscles to move them might actually be a disadvantage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/14 01:45 AM |
| 6 | TransgenderismI think it's ridiculous to say that people born male will not benefit from such things as skeletal structure and hormonal balance during development. Muscle tone and aerobic capacity are based more on current hormones. I've gotten ridiculously weaker since I started HRT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/14 01:40 AM |
| 2 | Is Living Life Better As A Man Or Woman? A Transgender Tells His/Her Story. | Liberty ViralIt's pretty naive to think those transpeople, or any people, are devoid of preconceptions. I was referring to myself. While I'm sure some bias was present, I had little opinion on issues of gender politics pre-transition. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/14 06:36 PM |
| 0 | Is Living Life Better As A Man Or Woman? A Transgender Tells His/Her Story. | Liberty ViralFocusing on one person's story out of hundreds that happens to support your narrative is cherry-picking. It's like going "hah, see, it snowed in Cairo and therefore global warming doesn't real". | /r/MensRights | 23/09/14 05:15 PM |
| 4 | Is Living Life Better As A Man Or Woman? A Transgender Tells His/Her Story. | Liberty ViralWhere are you that you know a few dozen? Uh - being trans myself and spending several years questioning and then as an activist, and personally mentoring a few dozen transitioners. Kind of my area of expertise. And the article is titled "Tells his/her story". It's all about a person's experience. There are no claims that the "vast majority" of a specific population does a certain thing. Everything stated is in the view of what this person has seen. Never overall claims of the entire population. … | /r/MensRights | 23/09/14 04:57 PM |
| 5 | Is Living Life Better As A Man Or Woman? A Transgender Tells His/Her Story. | Liberty ViralSo the fact that he intentionally and voluntarily came to /r/mensrights to make a post has no validity? No, but the fact that they report on his story and not on the many, many conflicting ones in feminist-leaning subreddits is rather deceptive. I doubt, for example, that they reported on the study from a while back that found MTF people taking a pay cut of a third and FTM people's pay actually increasing through their transition. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/14 04:55 PM |
| 2 | Is Living Life Better As A Man Or Woman? A Transgender Tells His/Her Story. | Liberty ViralThe central element, and one of the most valuable things, about his testimony is the fact that it comes from both perspectives, and covers time periods when she was female and while he's presently male. Yeah, but so does the testimony of many other trans folks who firmly disagree with him. Is it not a little invalidating of you to claim that "the vast majority of trans people" report some other experience, adding no citations or specifics to your claim whatsoever, while dismissing the value of t… | /r/MensRights | 23/09/14 04:38 PM |
| 3 | Is Living Life Better As A Man Or Woman? A Transgender Tells His/Her Story. | Liberty Viraland it's sad we don't give people like him more attention to find out what the balance of gender equality actually is. /r/asktransgender Feel free to go ask. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/14 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Is Living Life Better As A Man Or Woman? A Transgender Tells His/Her Story. | Liberty ViralIs this anything beyond anecdotal? Is the OP? Yes, it's anecdotal, but I'll still trust the few dozen anecdotal reports I've heard in the other direction more than this single anecdotal report. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/14 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Is Living Life Better As A Man Or Woman? A Transgender Tells His/Her Story. | Liberty ViralSaid it elsewhere, and I'll say it here - I think it's rather sad that they're willing to cherry-pick this guy's story to support the MRM, but not to extend to him the courtesy of actually considering him a man. "His/her" indeed. For the record, the vast majority of trans people report exactly the opposite. Make of what what you will. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/14 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Transgenderism is a psychiatric disorder: its sufferers need therapy, not surgeryThere is tons - TONS - of stuff that's fully accepted without double-blind experimental studies. Nobody's having random groups breathe in tons of asbestos just for giggles. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/09/14 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Transgenderism is a psychiatric disorder: its sufferers need therapy, not surgeryBlind studies are not possible when the results are clearly visible to everyone involved, and direct experimentation here would run into serious ethical concerns. It's what we have. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/09/14 10:46 PM |
| 3 | Transgenderism is a psychiatric disorder: its sufferers need therapy, not surgeryPossible, perhaps, but undemonstrated. And your implicit notion that people who find themselves less masculine/feminine than their peers would be more likely to transition doesn't appear to have any basis in fact. Trans people are, for example, twice as likely to have military service as non-trans people despite the military outright banning anyone openly trans. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/09/14 04:58 PM |
| 6 | Transgenderism is a psychiatric disorder: its sufferers need therapy, not surgeryThat study looked at kids with gender-variant behavior presented by their parents, not cross-gender identification. Yes, an effeminate boy is more likely to grow up to be gay than to be trans, but effeminate =/= female-identified. Here is a recent study on people who identified as trans during their early teens who were given puberty blockers in order to delay things, under exactly your logic. Every single one, without fail, proceeded to HRT years later as soon as they had the option. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/09/14 12:10 AM |
| 0 | Transgendered ‘girl’ crowned homecoming princessI don't particularly understand why you think transitioning is such a trivial, small, or shallow thing. I've both lost weight and transitioned at different times of my life, and I can say with considerable confidence that either they're different in kind or so different in scale as to practically be different in kind. We're talking about something that reduces anxiety by half, depression by three-quarters, and reduces suicidal thoughts in the overwhelming majority. We're talking about relief on … | /r/TheRedPill | 17/09/14 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Transgendered ‘girl’ crowned homecoming princessIt's not, though. I feel much, much better, and it's blatantly obvious to everyone who's known me for any period of time. Even before I came out, people noticed the difference and commented on it. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/09/14 01:22 PM |
| 0 | Transgendered ‘girl’ crowned homecoming princessI think you badly misunderstand who and what we are. We are not our bodies, and our feelings are hardly shallow. Take a moment and think about how you'd feel if an accident damaged your penis beyond repair, or if a hormonal condition caused you to develop breasts. No one would call a man shallow or inauthentic for seeking the best methods to repair himself in such a circumstance, would they? It's not about being someone different. It's about expressing who you already are. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/09/14 04:24 AM |
| 2 | [For Bluepill]Born That Way--Gender/Sex as Biological...Not a Social Construct? Victor's StoryI don't think it's a particularly important question. Obviously both sexes pursue, have, and enjoy sex, and there's a phenomenal amount wrong with redpill philosophy outside of their views on relative horniness. That being said, I agree that it's very unlikely that the genders are truly identical, in the same way that I think it's unlikely that a guy from central Africa has identical capabilities in all respects to a guy from Norway. But, and this is a crucial "but", tendencies are not things to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/14 04:12 PM |
| 1 | [For Bluepill]Born That Way--Gender/Sex as Biological...Not a Social Construct? Victor's Story"Rascals" is not a sexual term. It could merely mean untrustworthy and scheming. I'm just gonna say "read the play". It's not long, and the girls are sneaking off for sex every other scene. The theme is...not veiled, shall we say :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/14 05:47 AM |
| 3 | [For Bluepill]Born That Way--Gender/Sex as Biological...Not a Social Construct? Victor's StoryDo you have evidence of that? It's attested in tons of work from the time, although I lack an immediate source. Lysistrata, at least, begins: Lysistrata: There are a lot of things about us women that sadden me, considering how men see us as rascals. Calonice: Which we are! Greek masculinity centered around discipline and self-control, and thus uncontrolled lust was reserved for women. Your talk about the necessary suspension of disbelief required to start the plot does indeed occur here - the su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/14 10:28 PM |
| 20 | [For Bluepill]Born That Way--Gender/Sex as Biological...Not a Social Construct? Victor's StoryGender identity is at least partially biological, there's ample evidence for that. But gender roles need not relate to these internal characteristics, and historically they usually haven't. Modern Western culture usually views women as prudish and men as sex-crazed; go back to ancient Greece and you'll find it flipped around. They thought women were the ones driven by animal instinct, and men could be reserved. If you've ever seen Lysistrata (the Greek play where the women refuse to have sex unt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/14 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Another reason why Denmark is the best country in the world. Denmark has become the first European country to allow legal change of gender without a medical expert statement. You wake up in the morninPreferential hiring. Well, except for the fact that trans people average double to triple the background unemployment rate. But we'll just ignore that. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/14 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Another reason why Denmark is the best country in the world. Denmark has become the first European country to allow legal change of gender without a medical expert statement. You wake up in the morninWell, there you go. The part of your brain that controls that - your body map - is, for you, expecting a male body. For us, it doesn't, and those parts feel as unnecessary or alien to us as boobs to you. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/14 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Another reason why Denmark is the best country in the world. Denmark has become the first European country to allow legal change of gender without a medical expert statement. You wake up in the morninYou're still the same legal person, and legal obligations and actions follow you through it. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/14 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Another reason why Denmark is the best country in the world. Denmark has become the first European country to allow legal change of gender without a medical expert statement. You wake up in the morninit still strikes me as something incredibly odd that anyone would want to get a gender reassignment surgery It's not so difficult to understand as you might imagine. Suppose you woke up tomorrow with breasts (I am assuming you're a man here), as happens to some men in reality (albeit not overnight, but still). Would you go "oh okay, boobs", or would it distress you to have them? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/14 02:56 AM |
| 3 | Another reason why Denmark is the best country in the world. Denmark has become the first European country to allow legal change of gender without a medical expert statement. You wake up in the morninYou wake up in the morning and decide which gender you want to be that day. If by that you mean "after a six-month waiting period". | /r/MensRights | 02/09/14 01:20 AM |
| 3 | Transgenderd men in mens only spaces?It's a (misguided) attempt to make "women" not derivative on "men". This isn't linguistically accurate: originally, "man" was gender-neutral and old English had "ver-man" and "wo-man" to indicate male and female. Over time, the generic term came to refer more to men, and ver-man fell out of use. You still see the root in "werewolf", though: man-wolf, literally. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/14 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Life is inherently unfair, and striving for "equality" has a poor effort/benefit ratio.You know, I read somewhere that people who experience actual gender dysphoria, not the bullshit identities on tumblr, may actually have developed a female brain inside of a man's body, and vice-versa. How exactly that may work, I have no idea. We are similar, in some respects. Most of the brain is responsive to hormones throughout life, but some parts of it - including, in particular, regions responsible for body map and sexual response - are more or less fixed from birth. But much of the brain … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/14 04:08 AM |
| -1 | Life is inherently unfair, and striving for "equality" has a poor effort/benefit ratio.I went from man to lady. It's not nearly as different as most people imagine it is. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/14 02:04 AM |
| -1 | Life is inherently unfair, and striving for "equality" has a poor effort/benefit ratio.Sure, genetic limitations exist Speaking as someone who's strolled right across said 'limitations': not in any range the average person deals with. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/14 01:57 AM |
| -5 | Life is inherently unfair, and striving for "equality" has a poor effort/benefit ratio.Don't allow whatever you are, be it...man or woman He says, on a subreddit completely devoted to the idea that all women want X and all men want Y by nature because evolution. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/14 01:30 AM |
| 1 | How accurate are my university's numbers?The number for trans folk seems high based on the few hundred that I know, but not by very much. I'd estimate closer to one in three. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/14 10:52 PM |
| 2 | What does TRP think of this child-raising advice?and we're developing a culture (thanks to feminists) where there are trigger warnings for everything I'm not sure where you think this is the case, because in my (swing) state, I lost my family for being trans and could have lost my job and housing too if I'd been unfortunate. Forget 'trigger warnings', we're still working on basic rights. Salem is a place by the way not a time period. I am aware, but you know very well what I am referring to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/14 05:10 PM |
| 3 | What does TRP think of this child-raising advice?Your priorities are just hilariously screwed. "Tell her not to believe everything she sees on the internet", okay. Make sure she doesn't believe in - gasp! - trigger warnings - well, that deserves a bold. Your idea of child-rearing would fit better in Salem than it does in the modern world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/14 12:05 PM |
| 11 | What does TRP think of this child-raising advice?That would be the funniest thing I've read in weeks, if I didn't think someone somewhere believed it. sigh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/14 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Can some man here please tell me why "cis" should be a thing?Most intersex people are assigned as, and raised as, one sex, though. Your average person with Kleinfelter's is phenotypically, socially, legally, sexually, and internally a guy. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/14 11:23 PM |
| 16 | Can some man here please tell me why "cis" should be a thing?The only thing I know is my gut reaction towards seeing "cis" and "cisgender" thrown around on this website and Tumblr. The terms exist well outside of tumblr, and are pretty standard in academic discourse concerning trans subjects. It comes from the Latin word cis ("on the same side as"), as opposed to trans ("on the opposite side from"). You see them in a few other contexts - there's cis/trans isomerism in chemistry and cisalpine/transalpine Gaul in historical Europe. Why should I have to acce… | /r/MensRights | 17/07/14 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Can some man here please tell me why "cis" should be a thing?'cis' is to 'trans' as 'straight' is to 'gay'. Since cis and trans (respectively, "on the same side as" and "on the opposite side from") were opposites even in Latin, straight/gay is far more a neologism than cis/trans. Unless you also object to being considered a 'straight man', I guess. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/14 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Can some man here please tell me why "cis" should be a thing?The way I understand cis is cis refers to having chromosomes XY or XX and identifying as male or female respectively. Non-cis refers to having chromosomes XY or XX and identifying as the opposite gender or choosing to be non-gendered. More or less - more properly it means your gender identity aligns with your 'assigned at birth' sex (i.e., "it's a boy!"). This almost always, but not always, aligns with chromosomes - XX (phenotypic) men and XY (phenotypic) women do exist. The latter can even be f… | /r/MensRights | 17/07/14 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Can some man here please tell me why "cis" should be a thing?Maybe if there were some references using it earlier than the 1990s, or that weren't gender advocates. The prefix cis is classical Latin. So it's been around a while. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/14 07:37 PM |
| 8 | Feminism is transphobicplay the inclusion game. Alternately, 'be a decent human being'. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/14 02:47 AM |
| 2 | NYT - Criticism of a Gender Theory, and a Scientist Under SiegeYeah, I realize the researcher wasn't the same guy, but still. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/14 08:28 PM |
| 2 | NYT - Criticism of a Gender Theory, and a Scientist Under SiegeMoreover, based on her own reading of federal regulations, Dr. Dreger, whose report can be viewed at www.bioethics.northwestern.edu, argued that the book did not qualify as scientific research. The federal definition describes “a systematic investigation, including research development, testing and evaluation.” So after he publishes a book purporting to cover the science of trans folk, the defense to accusations that he did not go through proper research channels is that it wasn't "scientific re… | /r/MensRights | 19/06/14 08:08 PM |
| 1 | How do those who attribute differences in gender expression to social constructionism reconcile their beliefs with trans individuals and hard sciences?http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/031022062408.htm Discusses orientation and identity, not roles or presentation. http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/B:ASEB.0000014324.25718.51 Linked this one twice. I'll grant this one, but very small sample size and a focus on a single intersex condition (CAH) yields less generalizable data. http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/.U4rsFS9L5Ls#.U4r2Jy9L5Ls Dead link, so can't comment. http://www.degruyter.com/view/j/jpem.2005.18.6/jpem.2005.… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 06:27 PM |
| 0 | How do those who attribute differences in gender expression to social constructionism reconcile their beliefs with trans individuals and hard sciences?Gender expression and roles are constructed (mostly - some have roots in physiological differences), identity is not. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 09:06 AM |
| 2 | How do those who attribute differences in gender expression to social constructionism reconcile their beliefs with trans individuals and hard sciences?Forcibly establishing gender identity You cannot forcibly establish gender identity by any known means. The cases you're referring to - David Reimer being sort of the landmark example - had expression enforced, not identity. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 08:11 AM |
| 1 | How do those who attribute differences in gender expression to social constructionism reconcile their beliefs with trans individuals and hard sciences?Trans person here. Gender identity (which is weakly established to be innate) and gender expression (which is social) are distinct objects. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 07:26 AM |
| 1 | How do those who attribute differences in gender expression to social constructionism reconcile their beliefs with trans individuals and hard sciences?implies the existence of souls. ...wat? | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 07:25 AM |
| 1 | So, I was thinking...The question is not inherently unreasonable. I've got no beef answering. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/14 06:31 AM |
| 11 | So, I was thinking...If I take a knife and cut myself I am seen as sick and in need of special counseling, if a woman chose to heat up a spoon and burn herself shut, save for a hole for pee and menstruation, that woman would be taken in for counseling, however, if a man wants to have a doctor slice open his penis and tuck it inside of him, that's just peachy. Why? Because trans people and body dysmorphic disorder sufferers are not the same thing. BDD is generally delusional, and when sufferers are "treated" by the r… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/14 11:05 PM |
| 5 | Hey, what do you people think of Transgenders?And recently a MTF raped a woman. A. One. Are you suggesting that (cis) women have never raped women? | /r/MensRights | 15/05/14 11:25 PM |
| 5 | Hey, what do you people think of Transgenders?As we all know, many "trans women" are simply cross dressing men. Um...not sure where you're sourcing this, but I certainly don't "know" that. Many, if not most, play dress-up and always seem to be in a state of readying for their surgery (Think Chaz Bono). Chaz Bono is a trans man, so that wouldn't be who the person you're replying to is speaking of. But surgery is not a requirement to be trans - I have no intentions of getting it, myself. If I could snap my fingers and have a fully functional … | /r/MensRights | 15/05/14 11:24 PM |
| 9 | Hey, what do you people think of Transgenders?I've never met a feminist who is "anti-transgender" Allow me to show you a whole new world of stupid: /r/gendercritical | /r/MensRights | 15/05/14 10:01 PM |
| 3 | i don't understandIt's not really a Reddit thing. You're just very, very disorganized. Sit down and plan what you want to say for a moment before writing. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/14 08:54 AM |
| 1 | San Francisco transgender teen’s false sexual assault report was a "request for help", led to "good outcome".Not in terms of the viewpoints he holds. I think he's got plenty of intellectual integrity. It's the association with viewpoints he doesn't hold that I think he wants to avoid. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/14 01:36 PM |
| 2 | San Francisco transgender teen’s false sexual assault report was a "request for help", led to "good outcome".Unfortunately, that isn't always the case. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/14 01:35 PM |
| 2 | San Francisco transgender teen’s false sexual assault report was a "request for help", led to "good outcome".Because some of the speech code stuff I see being hinted at and actually being demanded is very troubling. To what, specifically, are you referring? | /r/MensRights | 14/03/14 12:19 PM |
| 1 | San Francisco transgender teen’s false sexual assault report was a "request for help", led to "good outcome".I just wish so much of the experiances of what it was like when LGBT people first started widely speaking out could have transfered to the younger LGBT community. I imagine you have no idea how differant it was and so much of that struggle is going to be permenetly lost to you. Frankly, I don't want a struggle. I want to live my life in a way that makes me happy without fearing for my safety, health, employment, or legal rights. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/14 12:09 PM |
| 4 | San Francisco transgender teen’s false sexual assault report was a "request for help", led to "good outcome".We are going to be despised for some time no matter what we do just like the civil rights movment and the LGBT movment. Not everyone has an issue with these movements because they hate men. Of course men have issues, it would be ridiculous to say otherwise. But speaking for myself, my predominant exposure to MRAs has been to people with exceptionally backwards notions of gender roles, of sexuality, and of social norms - redpill being an extreme example, but others are present. A good friend of m… | /r/MensRights | 14/03/14 10:38 AM |
| -1 | San Francisco transgender teen’s false sexual assault report was a "request for help", led to "good outcome".real genetic males I think your movement would come off a lot less unpleasantly if you'd avoid phrases of that sort. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/14 08:52 AM |
| 3 | Lesbian Couple Allows Their Son To Decide If He Wants To Be Tommy Or Tammy (Misandrouse Child Abuse?)I'm in sorta this position with a young trans girl in my city. Her family is being extraordinarily unpleasant and I'm doing my best to help her apply to colleges without their support. But with how trans people are viewed, I'm having to bend over backwards to avoid giving any impression of impropriety. It sucks. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/14 04:47 AM |
| 5 | What is the stance (here) on transgendered issues, gender identity disorder, gender dysphoria?The definitions vary depending on who you talk to. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/13 04:50 AM |
| 4 | What is the stance (here) on transgendered issues, gender identity disorder, gender dysphoria?Transgender and transsexual are used more-or-less interchangably. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/13 04:42 AM |
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