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D1rect Reg1stration System. Probably against sub rules for that explanation that I had here a minute ago.
/r/seduction17/04/23 09:20 AM
2

Use that money you saved, to buy and DRS more shares of GameStop.
/r/seduction15/04/23 07:37 AM
4

This CLASSICALLY feeds into women's need to "fix men". They want that "bad boy challenge" that they can tame/fix. Of course there's other scenarios, but that's mostly what it's all about.
/r/seduction01/10/22 05:20 AM
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and pathetic
/r/seduction09/09/22 02:23 AM
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The answers you'll get on the awful Reddit dating subs - even HERE - are not true in reality. Most people will consider older woman -to- younger man to be some "cougar power". Conversely, older man -to- younger woman = "perv" or "predator". But in reality, I've had no problem with younger women. Most people out there who are hating, are either old, fat, ugly or jealous (men and women both), or just plain jealous that "age/wisdom/money/power/_________" ... found beauty. And sometimes, if we're fo…
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:39 PM
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Wait til you get yourself a cardboard sign, a dog, and a bridge to kick under. I've never felt more liberated.
/r/seduction28/03/22 04:44 PM
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This is a common mistake women make. They seem to think we can foreplay forever. If it goes beyond 30 minutes, my dick gets offended and starts wondering what's on tv.
/r/seduction24/03/22 08:10 PM
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There's a few types of dicks, that deviate from the hardness norm: Distracted dick Depression dick Drunk dick --- aka "whiskey dick" Don't-put-your-dick-in-that dick There's a few others, but yeah... this happens.
/r/seduction24/03/22 08:08 PM
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.
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:28 AM
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You know most of the people talking about all the exotic and bizarre sex stuff they've done, are TOTALLY FULL OF SHIT, right? Even my current girl: She told me her sexual boundaries were pretty open. I went to stick a carrot in her butt, and she freaked out. People lie.
/r/seduction20/03/22 03:25 AM
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You need to give more back-story. I would have grabbed the free dinner, and then asked when there would be more delicious food. You know, we can use for resources just like women do. Float the ambiguity.
/r/seduction11/03/22 05:36 PM
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He's plowing the back 40
/r/seduction06/03/22 04:13 PM
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Pounds, bangs, or smashes?... So confused.
/r/seduction05/03/22 05:06 PM
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Because the 2 of you have become a "Judging panel", and the odds of him making a good impression have sunk even lower than before. Now, instead of focusing on you, he has to entertain your friend, to earn favor. Does it seem fair?
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:56 AM
1

Something de-natured you. Maybe parents, grandparents, religion, maybe this cultural dogshit that currently infects our country... find the root, and start to question that.
/r/seduction03/02/22 06:02 PM
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Wow, not too many women can admit to this. Respect. The excuse/denial is always, "I do it for me".
/r/seduction02/02/22 02:23 PM
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It's the "Path of Least Resistance", so of course a LOT of people are going to choose it, to lesson any rejection. But the fact that actual PAID COURSES have been built around this, is really sad. And this sub gets hammered with posts, constantly, about "why the good texting gone so bad, so quick... dunno ??"
/r/seduction28/01/22 06:21 PM
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HAA !!!! I said this a looonngggggg time ago, and got downvoted to shit by all the "texting seducers".
/r/seduction28/01/22 05:54 PM
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The "Crazy-Hot Matrix" explained this sometime back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbpGkrViOcE
/r/seduction27/01/22 07:33 AM
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It does indeed, Mr Diamond Hands.
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:32 AM
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She has had a bad relationship in the past that's left her with some serious anxiety issues She won't hesitate to repeat same mistakes for the right bad boy, again and again. Like hasn't been with anyone in two years LIE. Unless she is fairly ugly. This is lies. is afraid to commit to anything or be touched MORE LIES. Guaranteed to undress for the Super Chad. ​ Do you like your job? Why put yourself through all this, especially when most of it is nonsense...
/r/seduction25/01/22 12:51 AM
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Flirt with all the other women at the gym -- even the old and ugly ones.
/r/seduction21/01/22 03:28 PM
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Fuck this shit. It's a power struggle, and she's trying to close the relationship out ON HER TERMS, since you dumped her first. That drives women nuts. Watch. She'll set the tone for the meet, and then when you do get back together, she's going to dump YOU right away. Ghost.
/r/seduction17/01/22 07:16 AM
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I feel part of OPs story is either bullshit, or bullshit. So many red flags, contradictions or BS here: She's financially good, so why is OP paying for everything (and sounds like some expensive stuff too)? Long distance = guaranteed to fail. Long distance = other dudes on the hook also. Maybe some of them also long distance, so she can minimize the chance of any of them meeting. "She can get any guy". Yup, likely is. Guarantee several guys (or more) providing for all kinds of resource or entert…
/r/seduction04/01/22 08:54 PM
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THIS. Why is no one else paying attention to this.
/r/seduction04/01/22 03:36 PM
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Great. I got successfully fucking trolled.
/r/seduction18/12/21 10:05 PM
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This was Houston Texas, with only 7 million metro -- most sitting on their asses, and proving my point. And the state convention had 10,000+ people. And it was a very vicious fight between Ron Paul supporters and Mitt Romney people... so a little bit beyond cats and dogs.
/r/seduction27/11/21 03:27 AM
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This is incredibly true, and even moreso in politics. 51% of winning in politics, is simply showing up to your local / county / state convention. Saw this firsthand in 2012. People want outcomes, but don't want to inconvenience themselves.
/r/seduction26/11/21 06:48 PM
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Age is bullshit. I'm 40s, and have no problem with 20s. Women see this equation very differently than men do. And no, you don't have to go overseas for it; just don't think you'll have success with the domestic, faded green-blue-pink hair types, that want to kill all men. F*CK the dating apps. They will make you feel even worse. On dating apps, I get dismissed cause "I'm old". In real life, that problem seems to not be a problem. Hit the gym. Get a clean haircut. Drape yourself with clothes that…
/r/seduction25/11/21 05:00 PM
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Yup, and everyone is falling for it.
/r/seduction19/11/21 09:59 PM
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This incredible wisdom was gained in such short time, from being a virgin 2 weeks ago ????
/r/seduction19/11/21 04:18 PM
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Tell each about the other, and then you can rest easy. Best case scenario: they don't mind sharing. (Oh, and neither could be a virgin. Women say it a lot. Oopsie)
/r/seduction17/11/21 10:16 PM
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Stop being a creepy stalker and say something. Women are equals. Or are you not?
/r/seduction17/11/21 09:48 PM
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The hardcore feminists & cultural marxists ruined that for you. Men can't do shit now, without being labeled a perv, creepo, stalker, pig, etc...
/r/seduction17/11/21 05:55 AM
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Feels like she was in a cheating mode, and got caught, or close to being caught. EDIT: Did she give you her IG, or you peeped it out? That changes things.
/r/seduction17/11/21 05:51 AM
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Women wanted to be equals, and ARE equals. So this whole notion of chasing & chivalry, etc... is all gone. Fuck this behavior.
/r/seduction16/11/21 03:44 PM
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The night is fattest just before the dawn.
/r/seduction08/11/21 07:16 AM
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Yeah, this sounds like 30 minutes of joking, slapping, pushing, laughing and progressively-dirtier language until something happens.
/r/seduction01/11/21 10:32 PM
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Sometimes the shit gets annoying. You receive a compliment, to then be shut down, on what you assumed was interest. Best way to handle this, is exactly your open-ended comment. Throw it right back.
/r/seduction01/11/21 04:30 AM
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51% of the time, women say stuff like this, just to hear the sound of their own voice, or to be flirty. Attention is like crack for women. "You're hot" could mean something, or it could mean nothing. I cannot count the number of times I've been told I had "nice eyes", to then ask that woman on a date, and be rejected. --- "Oh, I was just giving you a compliment". Now I just give a grin, and tilt my head and wait, like, "What mischief are you up to?"
/r/seduction31/10/21 09:38 AM
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WTF is there to think about ? Even if you catch a girl off-guard, there's a 10 second allowance on that answer. NEXT.
/r/seduction28/10/21 09:18 AM
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How do you know what works? You're sitting here baffled, and asking total strangers what happened to you... but you're the expert now ?
/r/seduction28/10/21 08:45 AM
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Yeah, what the fuck is wrong with Gen Z. What a bunch of pussies. Let's all hide behind apps, and photos, and endless texts... that are guaranteed to land us in the friend zone. It's unbelievable.
/r/seduction28/10/21 08:44 AM
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Wrong. People with guts pick up the phone, and face their fear, instead of hiding behind walls of text, and photos, and apps. Set a date, an exact time & place, and if she bails, she's done. It's simple.
/r/seduction28/10/21 08:41 AM
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You're getting strung along. There's ultimately some resource value you have to her -- free attention, food, booze, clothes, car rides, etc... MOVE ON.
/r/seduction28/10/21 08:37 AM
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Video proof. I know dozens of women that would fist-fight you for saying that.
/r/seduction25/10/21 02:16 AM
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Yeah, I get the whole "ottermode" thing. But since you're 6'2", you have to consider that you've been given more auditions, just by height default, than most other men. THAT, if you rewind the clock, could have been a great augmenter for improved charisma and an outgoing personality. It's easier to let charisma and personality shine through, when you are desirable to begin.
/r/seduction22/10/21 08:23 AM
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It screams it.
/r/seduction22/10/21 08:13 AM
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My mindset is just fine. Height matters. Looks matter. Build matters. Nice clothes matter. I'm talking about in the timeframe before any words are even spoken. Lots of judgements are being made in these seconds, and it does definitely give an advantage to how you are received in the following moments.
/r/seduction22/10/21 07:44 AM
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You're playing down the fact that your 6'2" That changes a lot of dynamic, before proximity is even gained. A 5'6" woman at the gym is going to respond diametrically to 6'2" vs. 5'2", in a pick-up attempt, or even casual banter.
/r/seduction22/10/21 05:40 AM
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Here come the downvotes. Go right ahead. Because women want equality, except when it comes to dating. Men are still expected to make the first move, and usually pay for the first date (or most of them). Confident women who actually speak directly, are such a rarity, a breath of fresh air.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:18 PM
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Aside from the rest of the points made... DON'T DATE CO-WORKERS. Now you've got a potentially bigger issue at your job. If she really wants to make things difficult, she will tell HR that you are a harasser.
/r/seduction17/07/21 05:29 PM
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"I just want a nice guy" is equally damaging to hear and believe.
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:18 PM
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Women could learn from this too. DON'T ask men what we "Do for a living". It's boring, and worse, it makes you look like a gold-digger.
/r/seduction24/05/21 08:43 PM
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That's what she said.
/r/seduction03/05/21 07:08 AM
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Porsche ? If you're stuck in the 1980's with Brut & Members Only. A great modern man is more like a Koenigsegg.
/r/seduction15/12/20 12:38 AM
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Great post nonetheless. There's a lot of dogshit here on this "seduction" (yawn) forum, that usually drowns out the +/- 50 people who really know their stuff.
/r/seduction21/10/20 06:54 AM
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Is this someone from the Chicago Deep Seduction ? Some of your wording sounds very familiar.
/r/seduction21/10/20 03:49 AM
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This is wrong in some ways. Many of the guys who get the best results, ARE SHALLOW AS ALL FUCK. They are just crafty narcissists and sociopaths.
/r/seduction03/10/20 02:33 AM
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No one should tolerate any female blatantly asking to you to buy them stuff. This is the double-standard that is such bullshit: Women wanted to be (and are) EQUALS. Yet, every opportunity, over >50% of them will gladly accept free food, drinks, entertainment. They have no shame in verbally prompting for it either. Chances are good, those girls really didn't like you that much anyway. A woman worth her salt, who does, is likely to ask YOU out..... with good chances to offer to pay, or go halves. …
/r/seduction25/04/20 11:38 PM
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Wingwomen are better. And it helps if she "genuinely" thinks you're a cool guy.
/r/seduction25/04/20 07:43 PM
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FASHION is huge. Namely = SUITS. A really well-cut suit, worn with confidence, makes it easier to say less, and do less, while she is extrapolating all kinds of hot stuff in her head. (He has power, he is influential, etc.)
/r/seduction24/04/20 09:46 PM
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Make sure you have a couple swords, or at least a RenFaire / D&D pseudonym, if you ask this. See r/mallninjashit for more detail.
/r/seduction24/04/20 09:44 PM
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Women always want what they can't have. Should be one of the cardinal rules of seduction.
/r/seduction05/04/20 05:19 AM
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Unless you actually HEARD her voice at some point, chances are good it was a gay dude collecting cock shots. Or she's being picky about dicks. Guys are picky about boobs and asses......
/r/seduction01/04/20 10:02 AM
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Crow is incorrect about bringing up the "why", but Butterry you are incorrect about giving her another chance. If a woman really likes you, she isn't giving the ghosting form of shit tests. That's immature girls, or drama-fiends and attention-junkies. (Oh, and the narcissists). Not worth any man's time to try and dissect the "whys" or the "hope" that it can go further. She's a dick. Dick's get nexted. Time to move on.
/r/seduction26/03/20 10:15 AM
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Why are you unsure of this? Someone didn't value your time; didn't respect you enough to explain it either. NEXT. We say F.U.N. = "Fuck you, next". EDIT: And as another poster said, you have your dignity. Don't ever lose it.
/r/seduction26/03/20 09:58 AM
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You're married. You should NOT be on a dating/seduction sub. I'm dating, and my circumstance could change at any time. I have made no such vows. Don't DARVO. Nice escape. I'm not misogynistic. Conversely, I am trying to help other guys not fall into the "Golden Vagina" NAWALT nonsense that women like you espouse. Aaaaaand, you expect men to only date 1 woman at a time??? Is this bullshit or what? Women ARE indeed juggling numerous guys at the same time (and extracting resources along the way), b…
/r/seduction21/01/20 01:55 AM
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There's pieces of shit on both sides for sure. You stiiiilllll didn't address the idea of women blatantly extracting massive amounts of cash from guys. I guess that's acceptable. You are one seriously entitled woman. I am also questioning WHY a "married" woman is on SEDUCTION SUB ?!?!?
/r/seduction18/01/20 09:39 PM
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Yeah, ooof all you want. You didn't answer my question. You think boards like Female Dating Strategy are acceptable, in the advice they give women? It is downright hateful & disturbingly manipulative; I would argue even more than the thirsty-ass weak men (lots of them here on the seduction sub too) that need all manor of parlor tricks to get women.
/r/seduction18/01/20 06:19 AM
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And yet, you made him wait 2 months. I question his self-esteem, and I question your power motives.....
/r/seduction18/01/20 06:14 AM
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It's a valid statement against the entitlement that you wrote above. "Giving them access to your body, and getting you pregnant". Entitled much ? If men are ALL blanket-statement-that-terrible, then women should all go become lesbians.
/r/seduction18/01/20 06:12 AM
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Who wears the pants in that relationship ? The magnificent girl I am currently dating (monogamously) trapped ME for a kiss in date 1, and jumped me on date 2. She does things for me, like cooking homemade bomb-ass food. I LOVE volunteering to do things for her, like yardwork, and other manly stuff. There is no quid pro quo horseshit, ulterior nooks & crannies, or tasteless manipulations for power.
/r/seduction18/01/20 12:46 AM
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No, you know damn well women do it to determine the power balance from the beginning. Or to determine what wealth & comfort they can gain from that relationship -- whatever it's definition is.... financial, physical.... Back when I was the pussy nice guy, I had women doing all kinds of power abuse on me. Sometimes their friends would snicker if they were nearby, and even comment on that girls "power" over me. You HAVE read the r/femaledatingstrategy Ideology, Rules, etc... right ? Do you think i…
/r/seduction18/01/20 12:31 AM
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Wow, talk about a double-standard !!! "Committed relationship" ??? What horseshit is this ? I have DOZENS, maybe over a HUNDRED examples, where a woman will get a guy firmly on that commitment leash, and then SHE will go and CHEAT ON HIM. Don't be a hypocrit.
/r/seduction18/01/20 12:26 AM
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If I actually felt like wasting my dough on those gold & silver award thingies, your comment would win it for this week. Thanks for the unexpected gut laugh.
/r/seduction17/01/20 08:45 AM
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I'm sure you're talking about the "Female Dating Strategy" sub ? I think someone joked that they are the "female incels". lmao. What a hateful sub. Their Ideology is beyond fucked, and I am surprised Reddit allows it, as I would classify it as a GENUINE HATE GROUP.
/r/seduction17/01/20 06:16 AM
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And you'rrrrrre a virgin ?
/r/seduction17/01/20 03:22 AM
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EXACTLY. The 2 biggest crimes women commit here (often unintentionally, but I agree with your subterfuge statement): 1- "Be yourself" 2- "I just want a nice guy". That is highly damaging to any male, to hear this "advice" from women. WORSE, when it gets tons of upvotes, and is now accepted as truth.
/r/seduction15/01/20 01:14 AM
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I usually share my emotions after all of myself has been all over all of herself..... many times..... ..... many, many times....
/r/seduction15/01/20 01:02 AM
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I believe u/NewbieCasanova is correct. Guys are being purposefully programmed to be the biggest pussies of all time. Wake up... be bland... acknowledge that as a man, we are automatically part of the "evil patriarchy" and feel appropriate shame for it... go to work, do bland work... leave work, do nothing exceptional... watch more reality tv, keep being stupid... keep dumbing oneself down... play more video games than ever... don't engage in any critical thinking..... there's more.....
/r/seduction14/01/20 07:32 PM
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I said this shit months ago: Reddit is ruled by 19 year-olds, parroting BAD info from "experienced" 21 year-olds, ESPECIALLY in the dating and seduction subs. And why do the r/seduction "moderators" (lol) never dismiss people en masse, as they should......
/r/seduction14/01/20 07:22 PM
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Why not? She's already shown her duplicitous side, according to what you wrote. Besides, men cannot be friends with women they find attractive. This is only going to cause you more misery, as time goes on, and you get to hear her talk about all the "bad guys" that did her wrong.
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:09 PM
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You chose to keep hanging with her after she told you "No go". Beta behavior. You were friends for ONE YEAR, and you didn't make a move early on to test. Aside from that, never listen to what a woman says, watch what she does.
/r/seduction09/01/20 04:57 AM
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You're done. You went on 3 dates, and nothing happened. You got friend-zoned, after you didn't take action. Ideally, a kiss should happen on date 1, BUT NEVER beyond date 2.
/r/seduction14/10/19 03:37 AM
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I think he was making a point of the opinion (really fact) that women use outrageous, and shameless excuses for bad & flaky behavior.
/r/seduction14/10/19 01:46 AM
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FUCKING FINALLY - someone posts something worthy on the seduction board.
/r/seduction14/10/19 01:45 AM
1

Yep, your time is up. You have one last chance to kiss-close. Don't even wait until "the end" of whatever the next meeting is. Do it after a minutes of hanging out. After that, doubt will creep in on her. Not only will she think you don't like her, but she may even start becoming openly hostile with you. Stop fiddling, and do it.
/r/seduction12/10/19 09:05 PM
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It's not over yet, but it will be if you don't make a move this next time.
/r/seduction12/10/19 06:21 PM
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Just how "rural" are you ?
/r/seduction12/10/19 06:35 AM
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Sure. Feel free.
/r/seduction11/10/19 04:41 AM
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This is unfortunate. You have so much of women screaming from the rooftops in 2019, that: women are equals (or superior) feminism good men are assholes down with "the Patriarchy", etc..... But you have the double-standard that still exists (and I would argue, getting WORSE) where men are still expected to pay for everything. Look at Tinder as a prime example. You have a MASSIVE amount of women in their 20's (and younger) looking for a " SugarDaddy / SugarBaby " relationship. It's fucking annoyin…
/r/seduction11/10/19 04:30 AM
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This is possibly the most disgusting thing I've ever said on here (and I try not to do this): LYING is a skillset, that can be developed like any other skillset. It shouldn't be dismissed as an option. Just don't ever do it to friends or family. If it makes you feel better, think about all the physical & mental lies that women commit to daily: FAKE nails, FAKE hair, MAKE-UP, FAKE boob implants, push-up/padded bras, high heels..... no mention of who might be paying their bills, or who bought thei…
/r/seduction10/10/19 09:38 PM
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This runs parallels with TOM LEYKIS old statements about how women LOVE to be with a man they think they can change.
/r/seduction10/10/19 09:28 PM
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Forget Tinder, unless you want to play the numbers game of swiping through 10,000 people to ultimately end up on dates with 10 of them. Online dating is majorly in favor of women, and not indicative of real world encounters. Personally, I believe most women use it as a VANITY METRIC, to constantly assess their desirability, with very few having intent to actually meet. We see it as a way to meet women, whereas most women are using it as a barometer for their own looks. Most want to chit-chat, wa…
/r/seduction10/10/19 09:20 PM
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I hate to be the a-hole to tell you this, but by everything you've written, it sounds like you didn't hit it good enough. If you did, she would be pulling your pants off on each successive meeting. Right now, you've landed in the realm of "entertainment" of some variant. She's using you for entertainment, and attention. Remember, women are attention junkies.
/r/seduction10/10/19 05:11 PM
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Nothing is worse than going through life in FEAR, the REGRET that follows INACTION caused by FEAR, and the SELF-LOATHING that arrives at the end of all of that. So move on.
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:29 AM
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You had sex or just kissed ? (sentences 1 & 2) This is a very conflicting story at the beginning.
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:23 AM
1

keanu's brother
/r/seduction10/10/19 01:11 AM
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Too slow = timid = weak = unattractive Very correct. This.
/r/seduction09/10/19 02:35 AM
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You took too long to close.
/r/seduction09/10/19 02:33 AM
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3x. You're done. DON'T become like Jim Carrey's, "Soooooo you're saying there's a chance"..... Just. Don't.
/r/seduction09/10/19 02:30 AM
2

Ask her if she'd like to join you for lunch. Recommend the "Cream of Sum Yung Guy".
/r/seduction09/10/19 02:00 AM
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You're only real option is BOUNCE. This is no longer a date, and either she is immature, or insecure, and needs to surround herself with chaperones -- OR it wasn't a real date to begin. Either way, the reward this time will likely not be worth the effort. Make an excuse. Reschedule.
/r/seduction09/10/19 01:10 AM
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#4. The "Recruiter Straight Shooter" "How do you know you're not gay, if you haven't tried it, hmmm" ? lol - These guys are the most obnoxious, but also the funniest
/r/seduction08/10/19 06:40 PM
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I haven't read Manson, but there needs to be an amendment on here. There ARE women out there that are just cruel; damaged & broken, venomous, and with wholly bad intent. One always needs to be alert to those types. Not every woman is rooting for you --- or anyone.
/r/seduction07/10/19 04:07 PM
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I think this is some form of a confirmation bias, from your attractive friend. Personally, I call it the "Beauty Bubble". Chicken or egg? -- Guys who are good-looking WILL get more attention from women, from the get-go, which does provide that confidence they think is just natural. Then, that confidence results in even more women showing. When something has always gone your way, of course confidence springs from that. Interestingly enough, I've noticed a TREMENDOUS number of "Life Coaches" are r…
/r/seduction06/10/19 10:53 PM
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Did you grow up in a super religious household? I'm guessing one, or both of your parents, or whomever raised you, did a pretty good number on "de-naturing" you. Gotta work on it.
/r/seduction06/10/19 10:30 PM
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Why are you dicking with online dating (the worst of female behavior) when you have an active social life? As for your other question: Any girl who tells you she isn't free for a few weeks, is trying to shove you off, and hoping you will forget about her and go away.
/r/seduction06/10/19 10:08 PM
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When women give that last minute resistance, DON'T TALK. When in doubt, STFU. She was shopping for disqualifiers, and you provided a shopping cart full of them. Keep gently escalating, with maybe some understanding looks thrown in. Talking is done at a certain point. Oh, and as another commenter said, weed (and booze) is a crutch.
/r/seduction06/10/19 08:21 PM
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Oh, absolutely. Think about it.... You have an "established" man. It sounds he like runs a "successful" restaurant? Women want to be around successful & established men. And we know you ladies are more forgiving on looks than we are. Unless he is the most hideously ugly Jabba The Hut piece of shit, then undoubtedly other women see that "security/resource" value as well. At his age, with looks most likely going away, the success of the restaurant, makes him more valuable. When you said he stated,…
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:59 PM
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Couldn't have worded it better. Correct.
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:49 PM
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You're very welcome. I figured there was a substantial age gap. Trust me, you're somewhere on the list of Wife>Mistress>Girlfriend #1, 2, 3..... Feel free to ask any other questions.
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:46 PM
2

No you're not wrong. It's a "path of least resistance", and least ego-bruising, and unfortunately becoming the societal norm.
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:40 PM
1

You did the right thing. NEVER BE NEEDY. You removed her, decisively, like a MAN -- and that's powerful. Move on to the next woman, who will be glad to have your presence. If more men created an "attention drought", like you did, then so much would change in our society. Women are attention junkies. Never forget that. F.U.N. = F*ck you, next.
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:33 PM
5

Cocaine's a hell of a drug.
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:31 PM
2

I'm guessing you're young, and he's quite a bit older ? He's probably told most that he has no phone, so he doesn't get messed with outside of the restaurant. Private time, for him and his wife, or mistress, or girlfriend #1. No chance to get caught, with untimely texts or calls from you ! Men are decisive creatures. We know what we want right away. If he does not, then could you really respect a guy like that anyway? Move on. Lots of good guys out there, that don't try to manipulate. You're bei…
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:28 PM
2

One of 2 things is going on here: He's married, or tangled up with someone... and trying to figure how to get you on the side, or... He's playing hot-n-cold to confuse you, and break you down.... make you more pliable.... No cell phone, but owns a restaurant?.... HAHAHAHAHA... someone's fibbering.... Either way, his attempts at being mysterious are shit, and you should NEXT HIM. We say "F.U.N." = F*ck you, next.
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:12 PM
1

What's wrong with boldly asking them out ? Women are equals.... aren't you ?
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:09 PM
1

It's equal parts developing the ability to recognize time-wasters, and then having the tough skin needed to walk away ---- and yes, quickly.
/r/seduction01/07/19 08:59 PM
2

None of them. Just recognize when others are beginning to waste your time, or if they have that intent from the beginning. It takes time to learn it. "Mind your surroundings".
/r/seduction01/07/19 08:57 PM
1

No movie at all. Self-taught, and my own expression. It did culminate from a Chicago seduction group called "Deep Seduction".
/r/seduction01/07/19 08:55 PM
250

Be willing to walk away from ANY ONE, ANY THING, ANY TIME.
/r/seduction30/06/19 10:01 PM
1

It's on her at this point. Let her contact you. Or wait 5-10 days, and then contact her with a DIRECTNESS. Not a gym though. Specific day & time. If she bounces again, and doesn't make a counter offer, just move on. That whole "ANOTHER TIME", without making a counter, is officially strike 1. Lots of other women out there.
/r/seduction18/06/19 05:04 AM
-9

Keep being a pussy then. Watch the guys who call actually get women, while the little boys who play texting games get friend-zoned over and over again.
/r/seduction18/06/19 04:41 AM
-19

Be a man, and pick up the fucking phone and call. Your texting is squirming around confrontation. It is the easier choice in "fight or flight"
/r/seduction17/06/19 11:38 PM
-16

Texting is not straightforward. It is passive-aggressive, taking an easy way out of a bruised ego.
/r/seduction17/06/19 11:16 PM
10

This is true. There is a back-burner fear of being raped, beaten or killed, until she feels really safe.
/r/seduction15/06/19 08:20 PM
1

The WORST thing you can do during sex, is to get FLUSTERED. You have to laugh-off any ooopsies, and make sure your partner feels humor with this too. ​ As far as how to get better ? Reframe that question. "What does the current woman you are with, LIKE" ? What gives her a SMASHING ORGASM, or even a few nice orgasms?..... Take care of that, and she will definitely take care of you. ​ AND, even before that, most women get stupid for correct foreplay. Tons of touching, kissing, teasing, eye contact…
/r/seduction15/06/19 08:16 PM
1

Always nice that a woman pays for her own drinks. Big +. Expect nothing. Have fun. Wear whatever. Trust me. She's already figured your body type. Women have X-ray on that. Fighting? - Think, "do I want to sit in jail", orrrr, "do I want to see this woman naked soon".... No problem with prior drinks. Just don't get sloppy drunk. ​ This is your time to escalate kino. If you don't do it now, you can consider yourself friend-zoned. Sounds like you've got all green lights. If her friend shows, call o…
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:59 PM
2

Thank you Fist Bump. God, I hate all the "texting seduction" masters on Reddit. What a bunch of pussy passive-aggressive horseshit.
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:44 PM
2

Take your shot. She says no. Carry on with your head held high. No big deal. (Just don't be stalkery after that.) Nothing is worse than living in FEAR, REGRET and SELF-LOATHING.
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:43 PM
1

Wow, Dried Plum was right. You are a spammy piece of shit. Where's the moderators ?
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:31 PM
1

Why does Reddit allow this dogshit here ?
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:24 PM
1

Nothing wrong with glasses. Assuming you're not something from Revenge of the Nerds, you could potentially be Clark Kent.... Have the body, and fashion sense........ Then the glasses add 10% more to your "mysterious" or "scientific" hotness. Seriously.
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:05 PM
1

Cause when you do, you create multiples of work for yourself, after the fact, doing damage control.
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:00 PM
22

Women are also afraid that men will get violent, and use that as an easy escape mechanism.
/r/seduction14/06/19 04:57 PM
1

Some women are outrageous in their height discrimination. I've seen it too. The ones i see as most funny, are the women SHORTER than 5', DEMANDING a guy over 6'. - .....over a foot of difference. SMFH
/r/seduction13/06/19 05:39 PM
1

Try getting some comedy material, and doing local stand-up. How severe is your autism ?
/r/seduction13/06/19 07:59 AM
2

That's a great mystery. However, if he insists on playing head games.... do you really want to tangle with a guy like this ? Someone who's willing to obfuscate, and confuse you, over an age gag. Seems reallllly sophmoric on his end, unless there's something else you're not sharing.
/r/seduction13/06/19 07:24 AM
1

I just saw the "tread mill" part. Maybe better to wait til she hits the water fountain.
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:31 AM
2

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, because he is needy, and thinks you're hot, and that he can't get anyone else..... Yup, that should about sum it up.
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:23 AM
7

Why are you chasing an ex ? Don't you have any other options ?
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:19 AM
3

Headphones on at the gym = stay away. It is a purposeful declaration of "leave me alone". ​ As for your other question, watch a YouTube channel called "ThatWasEpic" / "AlmostEpic". The guy is hilarious, and does tons of cold approaches at universities. Not because he is trying to get laid. Just because he is having fun. There is not 100% snowflake saturation yet, thankfully.
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:11 AM
1

Height & baldness you cannot control. Unless you have a severe deformity, you can control well over 50% of your looks.
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:03 AM
3

Guys over 5' 10" have a major advantage from the starting line. Yes.
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:01 AM
8

Not true. I've seen the poorest, ugliest fat fucks, banging hotties. They have those ultra-rare personalities. Known one too. The funniest of the "funny fat guys".
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:00 AM
2

It will take hours to explain. Maybe someday I write a post on it. Don't know that anyone will ever see it since Reddit is loaded with so many pussies that downvote quality (albeit harsh) advice. ​ JUST OBSERVE, in your own daily travels. (AND TAKE A SHIT-TON OF NOTES) Watch how women respond to: Bad boys Nice guys And lower status ("omega" males, or whatever the fuck we call it) Then watch in amazement how women treat TRULY GOOD/GREAT MEN, OF HIGH VALUE. (Real Alphas or Solitary Sigmas) IT'S AS…
/r/seduction13/06/19 01:50 AM
1

And apparently I've now got a stalker that likes to come around and downvote my shit. At some point men need to realize, when to go linear/direct. Otherwise, it is texting & buddy fantasy until 4 months later they can't figure out what went wrong. Keep that in mind.
/r/seduction13/06/19 01:07 AM
2

Women WILL make an effort to destroy men they see as weak. They will go out of their way to do it.
/r/seduction13/06/19 01:00 AM
0

You're welcome. You need to embed that somewhere in your phone call. "I always dug you in high school. We were both seeing other people. Let's see where this heads". You have to be direct at this point. Otherwise, you more firmly reinforce your "friend" position.
/r/seduction12/06/19 09:58 PM
1

20 pounds off what total ? And what height ?
/r/seduction12/06/19 08:55 PM
0

CALL. Don't be a puss, and text, like I see from all these Reddit "experts". Make intentions clear. Women can sniff out disingenuity a mile off. DONT come is as buddy, and then morph the date into seduction. Keep the call SHORT; 5 minutes. Joke, howdies, set specific day & time. Bye. ​ Seeing as how the 2 of you had GF/BF in high school, you are still in the running. You have NOT disqualified yourself yet, as I see it. YOU WILL disqualify yourself if you whimper into the date as the buddy, and t…
/r/seduction12/06/19 08:50 PM
1

Yes, here. No homo.
/r/seduction12/06/19 08:44 PM
2

How much weight off how much weight ? How's your muscle tone ? What sort of clothes are you wearing ? How's your general demeanor with people ? Do you attempt to engage with anyone - even saying "hi" - or just stand like the Statue of Liberty ?
/r/seduction12/06/19 08:43 PM
2

Depends on your willingness to play games. Women are farrrr better at it then men. I only do it when I'm in experiment/research mode, playing dumb, and taking shitloads of notes. Is it worth draining minutes or hours from your important day ? ​ Otherwise, just become your best you, go on other dates, reduce communique with her, but stay friendly with her..... "Harden Your Heart" - is an old Deep Seduction expression. Part of that is not telling a woman you "can't read them". THE SHORT OF IT: She…
/r/seduction12/06/19 04:30 PM
8

You had sex. You don't want her to know you're into her, that much. She doesn't want to look like she's into you, that much. Both of you are playing head games ( trying to retain power ). What am I missing here ?
/r/seduction12/06/19 04:14 PM
1

I caught the fallout from that, afterwards. Tom Leykis is a MUST for beginners who are stuck in the "pussy / nice guy" realm, AND even advanced people who get tripped up by tricks. Guy is a bonafide world class deep psychologist. I used to listen to him all the time when I lived in LA. Sporadically listened after 2007 when I moved out of LA, but recently started listening again to reinforce old knowledge. HOLISTIC. Too bad most of the posters here will never even get that far. I'm actually liste…
/r/seduction12/06/19 02:30 AM
1

Can you explain ?
/r/seduction12/06/19 12:57 AM
2

Face to face. Remove yourself from all the SnapChat, Insta, FB, texting.... "passive assertive" nonsense. You likely placed yourself right in the friend-zone by squirming around, instead of being direct.
/r/seduction12/06/19 12:48 AM
2

You don't look so bad. Maybe a little chubby face, but whatever.....who cares. RedditJ5 is correct: "Don't shit where you eat"..... How much do you like your job ? Sounds like you're still mysterious to her. If you're gonna make move, better do it soon. It sounds like she's giving you a pure green light. If you balk another 1 or 2 times, she will conclude that you either don't like her, or you're gay, or just weird, or whatever.......
/r/seduction12/06/19 12:37 AM
1

I'll address the "nice guy" part of this post. You have to "harden your heart". This is a very holistic lifestyle change, and not just turning into a dick or bad boy. I would strongly recommend going to YouTube, and researching TOM LEYKIS. Listen to alllllll the old radio shows that he put out. Leykis is not the end-all-be-all of seduction, as he is fat. But his brilliance in helping men avoid the "nice guy traps", is second to none.
/r/seduction11/06/19 11:49 PM
1

What dream were you pursuing? Answer that, and I'll have the next pathway for you.
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:44 PM
2

(I am mistaken for 10 years younger - often. Don't think too much into that) ​ Men age like wine. Women age like milk. Remember that going forward. You gain more power as you grow older, as long as you don't let yourself go to shit.
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:41 PM
1

You have to start ESCALATING on the kino. Light touches only.... fleeting moments.... nothing grabby. Smiles.... eye contact.... Assuming that goes well for a few hours/days, graduate to a "little bit grabby". A shoulder squeeze, a lower back touch/push to guide her (right PlayasClub), pulling her big toe while making a joke on her... More smiles.... genuine interest.... eye contact.... KEEP PROXIMITY. Closeness. Eventually, if you can't bring yourself to outright kiss her, then take her hand...…
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:24 PM
2

This could be one of those super personality clashes, where there is extreme physical attraction from both sides, but mental headbutting, and neither side is budging. Probably just an all around bad idea, though. If there's no break in her demeanor after a successful grudge fuck, she could scream rape to the police. Roll the dice. Try what Kenic says. I'd be real careful not to touch her first.
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:15 PM
2

Didn't you or someone post a variant of this exact question a few days ago ? This reeks of desperation. Men and women both move away desperate people. Calling yourself a nice person, gives others permission to call you the "nice guy". Nice guys finish last. Bad boys fizzle and poof. Good men eventually conquer. Why are you giving up any remaining power/value you have, to even ask her permission to talk ? ​ What is there to clear up? .... That you spoke for 4 months, and you likely gained nothing…
/r/seduction11/06/19 07:56 PM
3

Talk to both of them simultaneously = be a leader. Be funny, sincere, engaging, well-spoken, well-read......
/r/seduction11/06/19 07:49 PM
2

"why do you want my number?" Sometimes when you get hit with a direct question, give a direct monotone answer. If you dare squirm for clever PUA shit, you are dead. Women are masterful at deciphering disingenuity.
/r/seduction11/06/19 07:45 PM
2

Your friends are likely giving you shit intel based on their own poor observations, and now you're internalizing that. So she's a nympho with others?? -- just not you.... after 2 isolations.... and now caught in a possible period lie.... Hmmmm..... You're being hooked/baited for whatever resources she can extract from you. Learn the monkey rules: Security guard monkey (Use precious time off your day to escort & protect her) White knight monkey (You feel a social obligation to rescue someone whos…
/r/seduction11/06/19 07:29 PM
1

Unfortunately, girls at his age cannot figure the difference between arrogance & confidence, so it's usually the arrogant shitty bad boys that end up with the girls.
/r/seduction11/06/19 07:16 PM
2

Why do you keep putting yourself down? Being shy/introverted doesn't make you an asshole.
/r/seduction11/06/19 07:15 PM
1

Trial and error. As long as YOU realize you are now in experiment/research mode, with no desire for anything further. Do yourself a favor (and something most guys can't/won't do for shit because of their egos): TAKE TONS OF PHYSICAL NOTES, and use for future study.
/r/seduction11/06/19 06:28 PM
1

Feel free to PM me on updates !
/r/seduction11/06/19 05:26 PM
1

LYING = STRIKE 1. What else is she lying about?.... Now your mind is asking that question. ​ If you want to play along (for research, or to see if you can gain resource from her) I say, go ahead, indulge yourself. But proceed with caution. WOMEN ARE MUCH BETTER AT PLAYING GAMES THAN WE ARE. Your research attempt could backfire, and deplete you of something.
/r/seduction11/06/19 03:56 PM
3

Absolutely. You've been feeding her addiction. Unless your cool being the "guy pal", just move on. Count on this: It's only a matter of time before you hear some wailing story of how a bad boy did her wrong. You'll get to sit there and listen to that nonsense.... Do you really want to ?
/r/seduction11/06/19 03:50 PM
2

A human being who is giving false radar blips of what "value" is, of what "attraction" is. Dancers do and say what is necessary to separate your cash from you. That gives guys (especially young guys) a very distorted notion of the mindset of most women. Most strippers are deeply damaged. They radiate that damage outward, and infect the weak and young.
/r/seduction11/06/19 03:45 PM
3

YES.
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:17 AM
2

Firstly, never ever ask women about seduction/dating advice. ​ The rest.... not really anything solvable based on what info you've given.
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:15 AM
4

Numbers are subjective at best, and arbitrary at worst. Don't do that. You'll just drive yourself mad.
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:11 AM
2

WOMEN. ARE. ATTENTION. JUNKIES. Attention is their drug of choice, and chances are good that you and 20 other guys are feeding the talk addiction, while 1 or 2 guys are actually getting to hit it (she'll make the time for them -- believe it.) Move on with your life.
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:04 AM
2

Somewhere in your life, you had something embed that limiting belief in you. Maybe you were raised by a single mother? Raised by a weak father? Someone, something, somewhere gave you this notion of guilt & shame; to get a woman, you had to be nice to them...... This is what your words sound like to me. ​ Time to move beyond that. Ditch it.
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:00 AM
19

It drains your energy, and makes you do shit-all with your day. It gives unrealistic exectations of what a "relationship" is, if that's what you want. It also gives you a belief that you have to aspire to be like those actors (12" cock... huge loads...) to be valuable to women. The only thing more worthless than porn, is spending your money at a strip club.
/r/seduction11/06/19 07:49 AM
1

For me, for friends, for whoever......... it's true. It's an old Tom Leykis rule as well. Go find his old stuff on YouTube. Look, there is a real bunch of horseshit advice here on Reddit, with lots of people saying to take your time, treat women well, get to know them, etc...... The reality: Women have concluded, in initial encounters, in a very short time, whether they are going to have sex with you. Sex might occur on date 1; or they might not want to look toooo easy, and make you wait another…
/r/seduction11/06/19 05:48 AM
1

Ok, so why are posting the original question then, if you got it all figured out ??
/r/seduction11/06/19 04:27 AM
1

Don't bust in on someone's earphone time. You have to appeal to all senses, but not by suddenly hijacking one of them.
/r/seduction11/06/19 01:08 AM
1

Then they're not your friends. They're dickheads. And you've got jungle fever.
/r/seduction11/06/19 01:02 AM
1

Pretty sure those 3 are the last available women on the planet. Sorry bud.
/r/seduction11/06/19 01:01 AM
1

Interesting observation about the hair length corresponding directly to control, and I'll AGREE with it -- mostly.
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:58 AM
2

Best comment of the day. I present you with a seduction gold sticky star.
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:53 AM
1

She's a "hired gun". Have you given any thought that maybe she's trying to gain your $$$, by even feigning an interest.....
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:52 AM
1

Why do you have to meet women specifically at clubs ?..... places where they get to indulge in their worst of worst behavior....
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:49 AM
2

Oh come on now. Looks DO matter to women. Confidence is great, but the vast majority of women want a man in reasonable shape, with a reasonable face, and a reasonable fashion sense. We all know a "funny fat guy", or disgusting "roadie type" that seem like abominations of nature, but get tons of hot tail because of the humor and/or give-a-fuck-all attitude. Chances are good, this is not him.
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:46 AM
1

That is correct. 3 dates max. Burn it in your head.
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:40 AM
1

3 dates MAX, to intimate physical connection. No sex by then, it's you being set up to be used. Tom Leykis had the rule. Others should too.
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:38 AM
1

GLARING RED FLAG. You are going to be used for material comfort. I think you already see this. She's placing you on the "I need time to get to know you" hook. That is secret code for "I need time to figure how to manipulate you for stuff".
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:35 AM
1

You don't need wingmen. All they usually end up doing, is fucking shit up.
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:21 AM
1

Nothing will change, and no advice will help.... until you ditch the self-pity.
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:20 AM
2

Agree, but there is something that needs to be added. This current wave of "girl power", basically states that women need to act bitchy, in order to make men try harder..... The rationale behind that, being that "he proved his love & desire for me". This is very damaging to yound minds. If this guy is attempting to talk at all, and gets shit tested, or bitch face, or any other obstacle, the assumption is that they hate his guts. He's watching the bad boys, or battle-tested guys have success, whi…
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:18 AM
1

Men and women both freak out when their interest doesn't respond & validate. ​ Apples & oranges comparison on the random situational, as outcomes are different in expectation. To separate what I am trying to explain: Men can go to a car show, and don't need women to say, "ooh ahh, you manly men....." Women DO go to nightclubs with the expectation of having all sorts of desperate guys buying them food, drinks, and giving them tons of compliments.....
/r/seduction10/06/19 10:12 PM
1

THIS.
/r/seduction10/06/19 10:03 PM
1

A woman's greatest weapon is sex. Women have ALL the power in dance clubs, as proven by nightclub business models of "ladies door free". Guys have to pay a cover. And their packed. Women can dance, be sexual in these settings... without having to give up any sex. Women also feed on attention like junkies on crack cocaine, meth, whatever drug joke we can make. It is their drug. Combine that with a night club setting, and you've tons of guys buying tons of shit for women, WHILE giving attention to…
/r/seduction10/06/19 10:02 PM
2

Could have been"last minute resistance"..... Or her friend could have squeaked for help..... Could have been 20 things, who knows..... Don't dwell on it.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:08 PM
3

Let her get around to contacting. You don't have other options ? Why are you texting, instead of calling ? Stop being passive-assertive. Are you making cookies at your place ? (You'll get friend-zoned if you do it elsewhere)
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:06 PM
1

Exactly. Women keep "monkeys" around for time/resource/labor.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:59 PM
3

I need to post this, until Reddit makes a sticky of it. WOMEN ARE ATTENTION JUNKIES. Don't try to deeply understand that. Just know they crave attention like drugs. (Or, possibly, you could be a crappy kisser... that is possible too)
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:58 PM
2

Not enough info provided. ​ Talk a few..... Get a number..... Make a call..... Take 5-10 minutes on phone.... Set day & time..... ??????
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:56 PM
2

She could be marking territory. Or it could just be an honest oversight. This is a bit strange question.... are you a fetish panty collector ?
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:53 PM
10

Women are ALWAYS attracted to a man that other women find interesting. The ideal is not to hang with women by your choice, but to have those women hanging with you by their choice.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:40 PM
2

I can agree with this.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:39 PM
3

Sorry, my guy. You busted. Move on. She came back to your apartment....... was even 3rd base achieved ? It sounds like she was down, and now she is thinking you don't really find her that attractive. AND/OR, you friend-zoned yourself by not trying to seal the deal on Saturday, and now she is propping you up as some form of use: Money, car rides, physical labor, etc... ​ 3 dates should be the rule. Dont drag shit out for 5, 10, 15 dates before her pants come off. And don't get hit with the "You h…
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:34 PM
1

Mistake #1: By your very words, you are putting women up on pedestals. ~ Stop that.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:29 PM
2

Ultimately, nothing replaces an in-person meeting. You need to appeal to ALL of a woman's senses. This is primal, prehistoric. It is, for any age of woman. Modern social media is a distortion of things primal, and allows guys to engage in seriously detrimental "passive aggressive" ( or passive "assertive" coughLOL ) behavior, through paths of "least resistance, easiest escape route, least ego-bruising" engagement. This is nonsense. Reddit is loaded with guys boasting of ultra-slick texting seduc…
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:23 PM
1

Dude, you have to understand that dance clubs are GROUND ZERO for women's ATTENTION JUNKIE fixes. This is only complicated more with alcohol factoring in.
/r/seduction10/06/19 06:43 PM
2

You just figured the answer yourself. They have shame in not having girlfriends, and are masking it with the excuse of "too old to party".
/r/seduction10/06/19 09:05 AM
1

Nothing is wrong with ego and ambition.
/r/seduction10/06/19 09:01 AM
1

avoid drunk women, especially when you’re more sober than them A lesson that most men refuse to ever learn. It usually provides more headaches than ROI (return on investment). Good that you see it.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:59 AM
4

You call her a thot, but she's also your friend ? Seems very contradictory.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:54 AM
0

Women are ATTENTION JUNKIES. You just said you hooked up with her, so what more do you want? You need to define that for yourself.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:50 AM
1

This is where it really pays to be a polymath (but not a know-it-all-douchebag. There IS a big difference). Sounds like you're physically attractive, but can't go beyond the initial physicality. Be well-read, well-spoken, have many interests, have a hobby you love..... and be genuinely interested in what they like too. Give a potential long-term partner the gift of perpetuity. Looks are great, but they don't draw us in deeply.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:39 AM
2

1 of either 3 things: She found you attractive enough, and wanted sex pretty quickly. You friend-zoned yourself by balking at the opportunity, and then "talking normally for a few days". OR, she was the achetypal female. ATTENTION IS A DRUG FOR WOMEN. When they get their fix, they move on. OR, she could just be fucking crazy. There arrrre crazy people out there; men and women both.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:25 AM
1

Watch "THAT WAS EPIC" or "ALMOST EPIC" on YouTube. The guy's name is Juan, and he is pretty hilarious. He started going around Phoenix??? colleges... doing non-sensical approaches, just to get over his own shyness/introversion. The takeaway is that he expects nothing, but to get good material for the YouTube channels. The results of his "non-chalant", even BRAZEN approaches, are sometimes very surprising...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87OCk3E_3IY
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:35 AM
2

Art of Seduction is worth mentioning too.... for those who have the patience to read it.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:22 AM
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Too many people on Reddit Seduction say "body doesn't matter". " clothes don't really matter". Always good to have someone who's lost a bit of weight to shush that nonsense.
/r/seduction10/06/19 05:04 AM
1

Deep Seduction started out of Chicago. There was a Yahoo Group that hit it's peak around 2012, with some of the members finding their way there (Q is the one who became Mod); and then took a fizzle, because of similar retardery that exists here on Reddit. The time invested to help newcomers wasn't worth it anymore. I suspect Q may have migrated over here to Reddit some years back, and then decided what I seeing right now: It's hopeless. ​ Reddit: It's the blind leading the blind, and someone who…
/r/seduction09/06/19 11:18 PM
1

Yeah, I want to know also !!! Make sure she left burrito-less. That would suck worse if she hand the burrito in hand, and bailed.
/r/seduction06/06/19 07:36 PM
1

Gullible is a harsh word, when we want to believe the best in others. However, if you don't take notes, and learn from mistakes.......
/r/seduction06/06/19 07:31 PM
8

You got used as CHAFFEUR MONKEY. There are different monkeys that women use men as: Security guard monkey (Use precious time off your day to escort & protect her) White knight monkey (You feel a social obligation to rescue someone whose mouth got them in their predicament) Daddy warbucks monkey (Pay for tons of stuff) Daddy monkey (Used for lots of advice & guidance; maybe combo of these others too) Handyman monkey (Fix broken things for her) Menial labor monkey (Interwoven with handyman monkey,…
/r/seduction06/06/19 07:29 PM
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Yep, another guy who has been indoctrinated with "to get girls, you have to be nice to them". We thought this shit took a dip in the mid 2000's, yet it appears the feminists have burned it into society once more. ​ She verbally announced that you are attractive & funny. That's basically a ticket to push a kiss on her at the end of the date (assuming you didn't botch the date in some major way). ​ If I ever have lengthy hiccups, I will boldly verbalize: "Uh oh, awkward silence!!", and start laugh…
/r/seduction06/06/19 07:09 PM
0

You have what we term "LINEAR" thought. And that is awesome. You are the pinnacle of what guys should aspire to secure. Mostly, women have "process/roundabout" thought. Guys have "linear" thought. (Another post for another time) ​ There are outliers, but by numbers, there are several examples/types of women I've noticed with linear, to-the-point thought: Female attorneys (some of them super hot). Women raised by single fathers, or exposed to a super strong male presence in the household. Women w…
/r/seduction04/06/19 08:03 AM
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Don't listen to the bullshit. PLENTY of men here will tell you how guys think, and to help navigate your notions of what you want: Good relationship with a boyfriend More casual sex Social interactions with people in general....
/r/seduction04/06/19 07:21 AM
0

I'd be curious to know how many women are here, as well. Just as a barometer to explain how some great material/advice gets tremendous DOWNvotes.
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:58 AM
2

All potentially great relationships start with a "HI". That's awesome. Keep it light and fun. I'm very mixed how I feel about Facebook. All too often, guys slide right into the friend zone. Just don't let it get frequent, or stalkery, or too goofy. Segue Facebook into a 5-minute phone call, where you secure a day & time to go have coffee/drinks, or some form of 1-on-1 date...
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:48 AM
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The very last sentence has the greatest value. Sometimes (often) it really is NOT YOU. ....soooo many guys will beat themselves up, over the notion they "could have done something different". Trying to play dozens of scenarios in one's mind, just gets one tangled in the madness of Chaos Theory. Better to move on.
/r/seduction04/06/19 03:05 AM
1

And this is your problem right here: You are THE NICE GUY - the guy who doesn't want to possibly offend her. She's given you tons of IOIs. Nothing wrong with feeding on IOIs (unless you're 2 months too late) and ESCALATING TO A SOLID KINO. Either force the issue or quit torturing yourself.
/r/seduction03/06/19 06:20 PM
1

Dude, who gives a shit if you have female friends? Aside from giving tips on style & grooming, how does it benefit you? And if you're already a well put together man, a lot of women will want to friend you anyway. Stop being needy -- AND in a future tense, based on "possible need".
/r/seduction03/06/19 05:42 PM
2

THIS. The longer he's in proximity, and the goofy games carry on, the more guaranteed the friend-zone. Someone needs to force the issue.
/r/seduction03/06/19 05:41 PM
1

Numerous problems going on here. I'll point out 2 obvious: 1- ASKING MUTUAL FRIENDS to hangout at last minute, is what killed it for me. 2- But also that YOU have taken way too long to escalate. How mannnnny times have the 2 of you hung out ? ​ Have you ever TAKEN her hand, when no one's around, and pulled her in? Have you ever GRABBED her hips/waist, when it's just you 2, and pulled her in, for intimacy? ​ It's time for one of you to shit or get off the pot.
/r/seduction03/06/19 05:39 PM
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1 - LIES. EVERYONE cares about looks. A woman wants a hot, successful guy to show off to her friends, and ultimately, parents. Yes, hot women will bang the "funny fat guy". We all know one. Chances are, you're not him. Let's assume you don't have some severe deformity. There's great hope. A "reasonably" in shape body, DOES MATTER. I can't believe others say it doesn't. Substantial PROOF exists out there, that most women gravitate to "ottermode/fit" body types. Not too big, but good muscle tone. …
/r/seduction02/06/19 07:25 PM
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FIND A MENTOR. Find several if you can. I detailed this above.
/r/seduction02/06/19 04:07 AM
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It is definitely hard to escape from, especially when it's being taught in schools to young minds. I'm all for female equality, but the modern versions are basically teaching that "men aint shit". It's tragic. Be thankful you can see it. (Thanks for the award. Too bad Reddit doesn't have stuffed animals I can buy with it)
/r/seduction02/06/19 04:05 AM
5

Nothing's wrong with planning. Just know that nothing ever goes exactly as planned, and that being able to improv things is a wonderful skillset to have on standby.
/r/seduction02/06/19 04:03 AM
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Start frequenting a place where you know pretty women will be. PUAs will be there, and so will people way more advanced. Eventually, you will figure out who is legit, and who is bullshit. Shop out the man who is well-dressed, well-spoken, .super comfy, doesn't engage in parlor tricks, is cool with everyone, doesn't need to be an overbearing alpha, and yet seems to have people always gravitating towards him. ​ Go up and say "Hi, I want to learn".
/r/seduction02/06/19 04:00 AM
14

Yeah, I've been on here 6 days, and am gaining a feel for all the bullshittery.
/r/seduction02/06/19 12:23 AM
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Yup, I knew it before I even read the body. You got indoctrinated into the "treat women nicely, to get them" mindset. You were de-natured. ​ Now we have teachers (I know some of these Marxist shitasses) teaching "gender studies" and other manipulative, neutering items in colleges/universities. You have SJWs propogating this nonsensical "rape culture", which is defined by some as even merely looking lustfully at a woman (or even in some manner she doesn't find approving). ​ This has all confused …
/r/seduction02/06/19 12:04 AM
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Thanks for the chuckle; good punchline. Seriously though, our male friends are constantly lying to us about their "fearlessness" and success with women. The fictitional pre-fabbed "then I did this & that to her" stories, is usually where I walk away.
/r/seduction01/06/19 10:12 PM
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The real question should be: How do I make MYSELF such an incredibly interesting, attracting person, that women ask themselves "How do I get this guy into my pants". Focus on other stuff; becoming your best you.
/r/seduction01/06/19 06:53 PM
105

The amount of lying that men do to each other, is staggering.
/r/seduction01/06/19 06:50 PM
5

No one should ever have to excuse their writings with TLDR. If others can't be bothered to fully dissect, a lengthy written "ask for help", then FUCK EM. DON'T APOLOGIZE. That all being said, just go out and practice talking to more people. Say hi to anyone, everyone. Say hi to someone's dog, and make up a conversation with the dog, and make the owner laugh. Don't expect anything from anyone. Just baby-step your way into longer conversations.
/r/seduction01/06/19 06:37 PM
1

Play on player
/r/seduction01/06/19 06:35 PM
1

1 - Did you ever have sex ? Hard to give other answers until that's clear.
/r/seduction01/06/19 06:34 PM
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This would be easier to dissect if your sentence structure, punctuation, and tense would cooperate. ​ Sounds like you're the buddy now. Not bad if you can keep her as a wingwoman / social + Don't end up being the guy who tries to "Weasel & wheedle his way back in". That's just going make you look piss poor.
/r/seduction01/06/19 06:28 PM
1

It's not about "her" at some point. It's about other dudes punking him, and his willingness to endure it. I'm not suggesting he go start fights. But he can't run from challenges.
/r/seduction01/06/19 02:40 AM
1

Who said anything about living in a ghetto. Guys will try to shove other guys around, no matter WHERE you live. Either he stands his ground eventually, or lets other guys take what should be his. Then he gets to live in FEAR, REGRET, SELF-LOATHING.
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:01 PM
1

He is a man, and eventually, he will have no where to run. Sometimes all other options are exhausted.
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:00 PM
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You're correct. I took that too far, too fast. Nothing has to come of it, other than baby steps.
/r/seduction31/05/19 05:55 PM
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I hate it when people do TLDRs to others. I thought the length was appropriate to convey knowledge. That took time and selfless effort.
/r/seduction31/05/19 05:48 PM
1

THIS
/r/seduction31/05/19 05:38 PM
1

Been here 5 days now, and I've actually upvoted tons of your writings.
/r/seduction31/05/19 05:37 PM
3

Usually I agree with your stuff. This time I have to disagree. There's outliers, and landmines, that throw off everyone.
/r/seduction31/05/19 04:09 AM
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Let's assume he's cool, and not purposefully stepping on your back. Then it's "just you". If he was a top-tier alpha (in a bro sense), his mind would be figuring ways to synergize with you, and get you action too. Side note: I've seen super alpha guys get steamrolled by "funny fat guys", simply because the funny fat guy makes it impossible for anyone (even the alpha) to concentrate on doing anything except laugh.
/r/seduction31/05/19 12:29 AM
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Sounds like you present well, and then take a dip too fast into the realm of the nice guy. No perfect way out of this one. Sounds like you already figuring it out. Answer questions more slowly. Dont give up big goofy laughs. I'm majorly guilty of this, myself. Pick up some books on Stoicism. Practice non-chalance, and subdued reactions. Answer the phone a bit slower. Practice not answering it at all. Give the gift of physical absence. Sometimes, you just have to be a downright dick about somethi…
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:10 PM
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Nice post. We used to have a "monkey" grading system. I forget them all. Have to go back through notes. Here's some: Security guard monkey (protect her, and possibly get yourself hurt) Daddy warbucks monkey (pay for tons of stuff) Daddy monkey (singular or combo of these others. Used for tons of advice & guidance) Handyman monkey (fix broken shit for her) Emotional tampon monkey (listen attentively to how the bad boy did her wrong. You silly monkey) There's like 4 others I forget temporarily....…
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:28 PM
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Well said. And he needs to be his best version of himself, so that others (both boys & girls) want to be in his company. Cool, smart, attractive, cordial, funny, valuable.... So many guys out there chasing women. Give women the gift of chasing you.
/r/seduction30/05/19 07:34 PM
1

You're a girl, then you should know that a 17 year old girl is NOT going to do that. She is developing sexually, and THRILLED at all the male attention coming her way. She'll do feigned protests, at most.
/r/seduction30/05/19 07:28 PM
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I have to re-post now. There is RIDICULOUS advice coming from some people here. ​ The same way her desirability is causing YOU stress..... Women are at their best behavior, and attentitiveness to you, when they feel YOU are desirable to other women, and that they may lose what greatness you bring into their life. ​ Simply telling her that she needs to tell the dudes to get lost.... IT WONT WORK. Women LOVE having men fight over them. It makes her social value astronomical. Even if she says she'l…
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:53 PM
2

Boxing, Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Krav Maga...... Pick something that is real-world applicable, and not just "forms" and bullshit. ​ Fighting = jazz music. Remember, in a street fight, there are no rules. You better be ready to use your teeth to rip an ear off, if it comes to it.
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:43 PM
1

Where did you meet her? If this is from an online dating site, better make sure she's not a prostitute. Otherwise, pfffffff, go for it..... and be careful. maybe she's been stalking you. maybe she's a bit crazy. maybe rebelling against parents, and just playing with you. or maybe she's just "linear", knows what she wants, and doesn't bullshit about it. (How refreshing)
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:25 AM
1

Here's the problem: He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. If he lets these guys pull shit on him, then others will too. The sad by-product is that the girl is gaining massive social value by having guys fight over her; so even though she's shy (supposedly. "dumb as a fox", we say), she is absolutely loving the desirability coming her way. ​ Tough, tough situation.... But the guys I knew in high school who were getting ALL the girls, were the ones who also didn't take anyone's shit, and wer…
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:15 AM
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Firstly, by no means do I ever make excuses for women. I'm brutal with their bullshit. ​ Gonna be honest here, based on what you wrote: She did NOTHING wrong. And not feeling good doesn't equal flaking. You've already had sex several times, so she's invested in whatever "defines" this relationship; meaning, that lying about being sick is hardly beneficial for manipulative ends, at this point. ​ Sounds further, like she actually likes you, and is going out of her way to accomodate you, by preppin…
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:00 AM
1

Sorry, but this is stalker behavior. Stop, before you can't. FORGET long distance relationship attempts, too. Toronto is a massively big city, with tons of women. Please, go be sociable in the real world, or pick OKCupid for Toronto.
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:54 AM
2

The only cure for Oneitis is to go be sociable,and mix it up tons of other people. Don't discriminate either (by talking only to hotties). Say hi to anyone and everyone walking down the street -- even people with bitch/asshole face. Start talking to someone's dog. Just socialize. Oh, and as OrzhovPalatine states, friends is death. Fuck that. Have some dignity for yourself.
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:47 AM
1

So, the general rule about headphones is, it's womens non-verbal attempt at saying "FUCK OFF". If a girl at the gym wants to talk, she will make it a point to be in your proximity, with her headphones even "temporarily" off her ears, while she glances at you. As far as women glued to their phone, my experience is that women like this are the ones that don't take the gym seriously anyway. They're at the gym because it's a social event. Approaching one of them is a pig-in-a-poke.
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:36 AM
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At your age, there's only one solution. ​ If you don't know how to fight, you need to learn. ​ Oh, and yeah, if she's giving out her number to other guys, then you need to start dating other girls simultaneously.
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:31 AM
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BIG MISTAKE. Never turn down a kiss, ESPECIALLY when asked for it. Those types of mind games are for females. She doesn't want another female. She wanted you. Now her mind is extrapolating all sorts of things: He's gay... or He thinks I'm ugly... or blah blah and such......... ​ Move on. ​ Consider yourself fortunate, IF she sees you again, and gets super kino & smiley with you. She may have intrepreted it, as "he's a challenge"..... There's a chance, but a really slim one....
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:24 AM
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What's your end goal here ? You want to be her friend-zone male buddy ? Or you want to seduce her ? Apparently your texting failed you, and now you're stuck in the "analysis paralysis". ​ Pick up the phone, be cool, funny, relaxed, and escalate a 5-minute coversation to a day & time to do something. SET. UP. A. MEET. Or someone else will..... while you're figuring out the next friend-zone text.....
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:13 AM
1

If he can pull that off with a bit of an edgy, self-deprecating non-chalance, that's actually a good icebreaker.
/r/seduction30/05/19 12:10 AM
1

Punch yourself.... and then talk. Just kidding. Every potentially great encounter starts with a smile and "hi".....
/r/seduction30/05/19 12:06 AM
1

I'm glad it brought value to you.
/r/seduction30/05/19 12:03 AM
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Say "hi" to every person you see in public, regardless of who they are. Start studying mens fashion. Ask at least 1 really good looking woman you know if she will go shopping with you, for her advice on clothes, shoes, fragrances, etc.... (never ask a woman for dating advice)
/r/seduction29/05/19 11:41 PM
2

Very well stated. I've been here 4 days now, and Reddit seems to be riddled with guys posting questions about busted texts, and girls that flaked/ghosted --- yet everyone simultaneously screams that texting, by itself, is aok. ​ It's a starting line, a teaser, an enhancer...... Until you go too far with it........ ​ Women love to hear verbal stimulation, and a voice of a male they want (or are on the fence about). If you can't be present, then the phone is necessary.
/r/seduction29/05/19 04:32 PM
8

Perhaps, but I get a chuckle out of Cobra Kai driving home the point that most 14 - 20 year-olds are socially inept feminized pussies, that hide behind screens.
/r/seduction29/05/19 09:35 AM
1

I can agree with everything you just wrote.
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:39 AM
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(hygiene, hairstyle, clothing and fitness are the top 4 As "ItsOnlyBeginning" said, these 4, up above...... These are things you can fix, things you can work on..... No one can prevent you from accomplishing these 4, except yourself......
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:31 AM
1

Talking too much, and talking oneself right into the friend zone. Something most guys still don't get, and refuse to see. Guys, you have to know when to sell yourself, and then when to s.t.f.u. ​ There is another: Talking too much, and saying something verrry wrong. The more you talk, the greater the risk you stand to disqualify yourself, by saying something irretrievable. Whether it's poltical, or religious, or you hate cats, or whatever.......
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:24 AM
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Your sentences are borderline non-sequitur. What? ​ Women have the power of expected societal norms on their side. Men are expected to do all the approaching, and then be cool about being rejected. Women are comfortable being in that position of power. ​ Watch what happens when women approach men (which is rare to begin), and get rejected. It turns into full blown hysteria.
/r/seduction29/05/19 05:06 AM
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Heres the problem with that: Escalating without anyone being in proximity is easy. Women thrive on that attention, and can easily bounce when they've had their fill. This is why so much flaking/ghosting happens, and so many guys are left scratching their head....
/r/seduction29/05/19 04:38 AM
1

That could be said equally of men. #2, women are more afraid of rejection than men. That's why it's up to us to lead.
/r/seduction29/05/19 04:35 AM
1

Eventually most women will demand a phone/video chat before meeting. Even if guys can manage to get through texting with having time gaps to be clever, sooner or later, everyone gets put to the test.
/r/seduction29/05/19 04:34 AM
1

Not true. Lots of women of course, are looking for riches. But I have seen hotties, and rich hotties, dating some of the dopiest dumbest disheveled fucks. Broke-ass men pulling quality women. Who knows how..... humor, personality, whatever.... ​ I used to use my nose as an obstacle too. My friends (dicks) were the biggest villains in making me self-conscious about it. Never heard about it from one woman. ​ If you got a killer body, then your nose issue is likely in your own destructive thoughts.
/r/seduction29/05/19 03:01 AM
1

Friday sounds reasonable. CALL. Be a man. Think I'm going to post my own Reddit about all this texting shit. Try to do a 1-on-1 without the chaperones, security guards, bulldogs, and any other potential blockers. No response in 24 hours, then NEXT her.
/r/seduction29/05/19 02:40 AM
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Best answer so far. Her request is fair, but cap it at 5 minutes. Otherwise, you are headed for friend zone.
/r/seduction29/05/19 12:52 AM
1

Seems reasonable from her side. Create a solid day and time. If she bails, that's that.
/r/seduction29/05/19 12:50 AM
2

Great points, and well-stated.
/r/seduction29/05/19 12:44 AM
2

Asking if you're attractive. Yep, mistake. Telling her she was beautiful right after = mistake. She "had a good time" = escape words. You were being a linear male through part of this. (Most) women are not linear thinkers. Move on. If she attempts to contact you, then there's still some embers to be re-stoked, and you get your 2nd chance. Some people you just can't bring out of their shell, and no amount of kino, or anything else, will change that. If you get a 2nd date, wait for the FIRST AVAIL…
/r/seduction29/05/19 12:41 AM
1

If your nose is THAT big (chances are it's not), then get surgery. If it's just a large nose, it can become a "Distinguished" nose. Look how many women wanted to throw their panties at Patrick Stewart (whom I consider to have a big honker). Captain Picard could have been getting much tail. Work on things that are in your immediate grasp, like going to a gym.
/r/seduction29/05/19 12:14 AM
1

First off, how much time has passed? If you say 30 minutes, or even 4 hours, you need a slap. If it's been more than a "work day", then move on. Zero tolerance for flakes, and attention junkies. Lots of other women out there, who are LINEAR thinkers, that won't do this shit. Something I already see on Reddit (and I've been here 3 days now) is that no one is addressing the concept of women that are LINEAR THINKERS. These are the most desirable women.
/r/seduction28/05/19 11:56 PM
2

Have to agree with this. MUCH better to possibly be called an "asshole", than to guarantee she thinks of you as a "nice guy/doormat". The latter carries so much more regret, and self-loathing.
/r/seduction28/05/19 11:50 PM
1

Quality = Not just looks, but personality traits/admirable behaviors. Some that people don't even consider anymore: Poise, grace, hospitality, manners, presence, consideration, vision, fashion sense, and yes....femininity (real femininity. Not these fucking self-entitled beasts)
/r/seduction28/05/19 11:44 PM
2

Could mean 20 different things. Who cares. What you should focus on, is : "How can I make myself so awesome, that statement doesn't show up"...... This is all pre-emptive. Become your "best you". Who gives a shit what the world's doing in the meantime.
/r/seduction28/05/19 11:21 PM
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HA ! It's ALWAYS better to potentially be called an "asshole", then to have yourself guaranteed as a "nice guy". Btw, don't try stuff like that if you're wearing bespoke clothing. (Except if there has been massive escalation previously.) +1 for booze for maybe helping you with an epiphany, but don't use it as a permanent crutch.
/r/seduction28/05/19 10:20 PM
2

Yup, great humor improv, non-chalance, casual........ dude having fun. Didn't try to shuffle his way into your group.....
/r/seduction28/05/19 10:12 PM
2

Concise, and correct. Amateur night indeed.
/r/seduction28/05/19 10:05 PM
2

Why are you even offering to pay, or letting her prompt YOU to pay, right from the starting gate? And letting her act like an ass as well. There's not enough info here really. You're not telling anyone a background.......
/r/seduction28/05/19 09:46 PM
1

That actually may be a good thing then. So keep it fun....... if she escalates, accomodate. Sounds like you're doing fine right now, just keeping it cool.
/r/seduction28/05/19 06:59 AM
2

At 20, your self-awareness, and introspection, is wayyyy ahead of most guys in their 40s and 50s. ​ The girl: What do YOU want from her? Sounds like you have the definitions muddled right now.... Do you WANT her as girlfriend? And if she rejected you (did she??) back when you were lame, then it seems that it's not a great idea now. She missed out, on all your other cool properties..... ​ As far as lowering standards to gain experience: Sure, why not. But remember, YOU WERE the lower standard som…
/r/seduction27/05/19 05:54 PM
1

Well defined, well spoken.
/r/seduction27/05/19 05:32 PM
6

You're obviously one of the guys here who really knows their stuff. You should be getting a lot more upvotes on your words.
/r/seduction27/05/19 05:20 PM
1

You have 5% of the information you need to make decisions. No one on here can tell you what path to take at this point. Women flirt without seeing any cause & effect, other than "Attention" being their drug of choice. Men receive flirting, and it drives us mad, because we extrapolate 40 outcomes from it.
/r/seduction27/05/19 05:16 PM
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Wow, I'm surprised that the current score on your writing is -9. People really don't want to hear the truth, even on advice columns. I'm guessing all the downvotes are from women. You are exactly right in your dissection; maybe not 99% chance, but definitely above 51%. Women have more options than men, generally, and also dictate the dynamic. If she's going with family, chances stay good. If she's going by herself, or with friends, especially to someplace like Cancun, then count on her playing a…
/r/seduction27/05/19 05:04 PM
2

Best thing you could do now is NOT mess it up, with constant texts, and fawning, and doormat behavior. Keep it light, cordial, fun, but don't overdo it. Women get bored / dismissive with guys who become sycophants / supplicators. And I've seen guys who are the toughest around, start doing this with women they liked.....
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:54 PM
2

It was over before it began. There's numerous problems here. The biggest one, is that their interest appears to be in "your ability to give them free stuff". ​ Also, texting is guaranteed friend-zone tactics, unless there has already been a sexual encounter. Men call.
/r/seduction26/05/19 07:46 PM
3

There's so many variables happening at a dance club (all compounded by alcohol too !!!). Impossible for anyone to give you a perfect answer for what "went wrong". Nothing to be taken seriously. It is mostly "by the girls, for the girls". ​ The biggest question here is, "What was your end goal"? One night stand ? Landing a girlfriend ? Validating your coolness with your buds ? Or just feeling comfortable in your own interaction skills, for yourself ?
/r/seduction26/05/19 07:33 PM
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1st comment ever on Reddit. Looks like I'm reeaalllly late to the Reddit party. There is/was a seduction society some time back, called Deep Seduction (hello Q, wherever you are). This was not the Neil Strauss crowd, or the peacock jokers, or the "seminar scoundrel frauds" charging $1,000/weekend to desperate men. This was comprised of men who REALLY wanted to become better with women, and in a holistic sense. It's not about "just getting chicks" or manipulating women, but to become a better sel…
/r/seduction26/05/19 06:47 PM
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