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Huh, I visit Seddit again and I see very little has changed. Right, mate, let's discuss a couple of points I have on this post. 1) The entire "I'm different so I stand out" situation is one I'm very familiar with. All I can offer is this - your history does not define you. Your actions define you. By setting yourself as "Black guy, speaks Danish", you come across as very uninteresting. 2) "If someone asks me where I'm from, it sends me the notion that I am not equal to this person" - wait, what?…
/r/seduction15/01/17 12:46 AM
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Approach.
/r/seduction26/11/15 05:11 PM
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First, this should go to /r/AskSeddit. Second, read up on basic kino techniques. Really.
/r/seduction26/11/15 11:47 AM
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Ok, you had a case of one-itis (I mean seriously, one year to ask a girl out?). Time to next her. Get used to frequent failure - it shapes character.
/r/seduction06/10/15 10:59 AM
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If you go too fast, you calibrate properly. If she doesn't like you, you move to the next one.
/r/seduction13/09/15 11:29 AM
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Then read more. Also, you won't know unless you try it. Stop overthinking and just GET THE FUCK OUT THERE. You will not get laid by staying inside and doing nothing.
/r/seduction13/09/15 09:30 AM
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Go read the sidebar material and approach.
/r/seduction13/09/15 08:21 AM
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and i dont hit on girls Ok, this is /r/seduction, not /r/feelgood or some shit like that. You don't want to go and put yourself out there, that's fine, but you sure as hell won't get laid.
/r/seduction13/09/15 07:49 AM
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Girls avoid guys they reject when the guys weren't honest and the girls don't want to feel bitchy about it. Now, I still get rejected all the time, and it's how you deal with rejection that defines if it does or does not become awkward. I remember there was this one girl who I really tried hitting on, failed, then we moved on to have fun together that evening when that was out the way. Look, if you want reasons not to do this, then get the fuck out - door's right there.
/r/seduction13/09/15 07:30 AM
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Go out and approach.
/r/seduction13/09/15 07:15 AM
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ok, but wouldnt be awkward if i get rejected by a girla nd i have to see her again It only gets awkward if you let it get awkward. like lets say its a girl on my floor, or someone in my smaller classes, what do i do than Seriously, who the fuck do you think you are? The girl isn't going to remember you for more than 1 minute if she rejects you - girls have to learn to reject people all the damn time. Your best option is to just fucking own it.
/r/seduction13/09/15 07:09 AM
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Tough luck then kid.
/r/seduction13/09/15 07:05 AM
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The more you experience rejection, the more you realise it doesn't matter. At all. You're going to be ok, even if she rejects you in the most horrible and bitchy way out there. Eventually you stop caring even about being rejected.
/r/seduction12/09/15 11:31 PM
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So you'd rather take no risks and not get laid than take some risks and maybe get laid? Ok, bye.
/r/seduction12/09/15 11:29 PM
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The thing that the so-called 'bay boy' has is confidence - this is attractive in any kind of man, be it a good guy or a bad boy. Instinct is, in my experience, the first thing that comes to mind - then your other filters apply ("Is this right?" "am I being an asshole?" "Is this alpha?". In my experience, your best way of developing that is by going out and approaching more and more. We humans have the wonderful capacity to adapt ourselves based on our experience, use that shit!
/r/seduction12/09/15 02:17 PM
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Bullshit. I have been doing this for 4 years now, I still fail a lot, and failing has only made me stronger - it increases my "I don't give a fuck" levels and it helps me identify when a set is going well and when it isn't far quicker. The more you fail, the less each individual failure is going to matter.
/r/seduction12/09/15 02:14 PM
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As one of my oldest PUA friends likes to say - a girl might forgive you if you're too forward, but she will never forgive you for not being forward enough.
/r/seduction12/09/15 02:13 PM
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I disagree - inner game helps in making assuming attraction easier, but you need to assume attraction first and go the fuck out there. Too many people use the 'My inner game is not strong enough!' excuse to just stay home and read without actually gaming.
/r/seduction12/09/15 02:11 PM
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1) Abide by the three seconds rule. Once you see a girl, especially if she's made eye contact, you have exactly three seconds to approach her. No excuses. 2) Ask open questions. You asked closed question - 'are you a teacher?' and 'Is it for your baby?' are yes/no questions, so what did you expect? Ask her open questions that actually invest her in the conversation. 3) ABC. Always Be Closing. Ask for her phone number - be fucking bold about it if you have to.
/r/seduction30/05/15 08:59 AM
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Start by simply approaching women. You don't need wingmen - just approach.
/r/seduction28/05/15 06:05 AM
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Dude, stop caring about that and own that shit. Seriously. I'm a middle-easterner living in Europe and have the weirdest accent in any language I speak in. So how do I approach women and have fun , may be one night stands ? never had one ! First, lose that result dependency - having fun is more than just sex. Learn to enjoy the company of other people through approaching.
/r/seduction19/05/15 09:17 AM
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When you wonder if you should kiss her, it means you should try to kiss her. Don't overthink it.
/r/seduction19/05/15 07:55 AM
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As /u/SteelRail pointed out, some girls just don't sleep with a guy on the first date. Personally I think it's them being afraid of slut-shaming. As far as LMR is concerned, I like doing freeze-outs; a sudden stop in all escalation, watch TV or some shit for 5-10 minutes, start making out and escalating again. Also, telling her something like "Normally I'm not this easy" shifts the blame from her to you; she's not being the slut, you are!
/r/seduction17/04/15 11:43 PM
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(she was smiling, but her smile looked more like sarcastic one) You're really overthinking things here, lad. As far as this girl is concerned - if she did not reciprocate your interest, then she isn't interested. Next her! That is one of the most powerful tools you will find yourself having. Also, start approaching more. I don't care where, but approach more.
/r/seduction15/04/15 08:26 AM
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The first and foremost problem you must tackle is the way you described yourself: I am boring as fuck The seduction tips and tricks we learn are all very nice, in the short run. But if that's all a facade, how would you expect any woman to show interest in you in a more significant way than just sleeping around? I too like working by routines - for the first couple of years I was doing seduction, I worked 100% with routines. And yes, I felt boring as fuck. I felt as if I was running this script …
/r/seduction15/04/15 08:16 AM
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Well, here's the thing about being 3 years into this - there still is so much left for me to learn. I look at people who are better than I am at the game, and I'm in absolute awe. It's beautiful - there's always room to get better! No qualms whatsoever. I initially didn't even know she was married until after I first fucked her and she made no big deal of it. This time I viewed it as no different - just two adults having great, consensual sex.
/r/seduction11/04/15 07:59 AM
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She's doing this because you're her outlet, basically. You're there, you'll listen to her and don't give her shit when she ignores what you wanna say. In other words, you're too available.
/r/seduction10/04/15 06:23 PM
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The notion that one requires alcohol in order to overcome AA is fundamentally flawed, as it goes against the entire self-improvement aspect of seduction and it also gives you reason to limit yourself ("I can't open that girl in public transport, I don't have a drink!"). Anyone, literally anyone can open when drunk enough and that is why alcohol can become a crutch very quickly. Drink because you feel like drinking? Sure, I do that all the time. But do not allow alcohol to become a "tool" that yo…
/r/seduction27/02/15 12:43 AM
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Oh wow. Okay, next 'em is exactly what it sounds like - you decide to go to the next girl. Hell, feel free to shout out 'NEXT!' when you do that. This is part of the foundations in PUA; it places you as the selector (the guy who decides whether other people are good enough for him), rather than the guy who begs to get some pussy. It's a mentality that say that no matter what will happen, you will meet other women; the word itself requires there to be a next woman. That is what I mean by next 'em…
/r/seduction22/02/15 08:24 PM
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In general, if you're on your own and multiple girls are simultaneously trying to block you/shove you away, I'd personally just next 'em. I must emphasise that you should make these decisions on a case-by-case basis, rather than letting it become a rule that ties you down. Also, sometimes you cannot do anything about it, sometimes you are just not the girl's type, so she wants to not be a bitch and have her friends be the bitches for her. This can be done incredibly subtly, it can be something a…
/r/seduction22/02/15 08:08 PM
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Shit tests are relatively easy to go against - agree & amplify. An example was when a girl who I just met (this happened in like 2010-2011, when I first started this thing) told me that I was weird. My response was "Hell yeah, I'm weird!" and she loved it. Ended up fucking it up anyway, but it wasn't on that shit test. Also, best way to deal with shit tests is to avoid them altogether by having sick inner game and solid frame which then allows you to behave in such a way that portrays that you d…
/r/seduction22/02/15 07:53 PM
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In my opinion, it feels humiliating to you because 1) you used alcohol as liquid courage rather than a socialising liquid and 2) you came there to pick up girls. I know you wrote that you were there to have fun, but let's be honest - you came there with the mentality that you want to pick up girls. That shows through every single one of your actions, and girls pick it up a lot better than guys. About the girl whose dress you complimented - the girl were shit-testing you, big time. You validated …
/r/seduction22/02/15 07:28 PM
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Personally, I would treat the situation as you would any other situation - a woman is still a woman, no matter the age. Basically act like nothing happened and go on with whatever's worked in the past. She may have faked freaking out in order to test your frame, as well.
/r/seduction22/02/15 07:07 PM
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Assume attraction. Act accordingly. Movie dates can be pretty bad first dates, as the focus is not on each other but rather on the huge screen in front of you. Keep that in mind.
/r/seduction17/01/15 03:29 PM
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Ah, it's good to see your progress! Now compare this FR to your FR of day 24. Notice how big of an improvement this is. I'll reiterate what I wrote in the past: you will not see a sudden spike in your game level or suddenly get amazing results. This is a gradual process, where plateaus are most likely the most frustrating thing you'll likely come across. Personally I think that you could have done better on the shit test - you allowed her to dictate the frame of your interaction. Something along…
/r/seduction17/01/15 01:15 AM
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Start by approaching women.
/r/seduction04/01/15 02:28 PM
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Yeah, figured that as you wrote this message. Didn't expect her to use Reddit, but better safe than sorry in this case.
/r/seduction22/12/14 07:38 PM
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Oh, we had an extensive talk about it the following day, in which he clearly stated he was not hurt, just jelly. Not in the envious kind of way, but more "Damn, I wish I could do that". The only thing he was upset about was his willingness to throw away his dignity in order to make out with her. He and I speak multiple times each week, usually while at the gym's sauna. So stop assuming I didn't talk with him. It was the first thing I did once the girl was gone.
/r/seduction22/12/14 07:36 PM
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Is it an epic lay that required me to defeat a dragon? No. It was me being cheeky and ballsy leading to mad attraction, possibly amplified by alcohol. The beta-ness was mostly the friend's, to be honest. Yes, it would've been far more alpha to assert my dominance by throwing him to the ground or some shit like that, but I wasn't going to do that to a guy who I know for over a decade over one small thing like this. Besides, status as alpha was later reaffirmed.
/r/seduction22/12/14 07:08 PM
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I guess that I didn't make the central point of this FR clear. The important point wasn't that we both got drunk and had drunken sex, nor that I used any technique. Hell, not using techniques is something that I've been working on for quite a while, and am still not entirely comfortable in. Would it have been more satisfying if we were both sober? Absolutely. Does this invalidate this lay? Not at all. Discussing whether she would've slept with me while sober or not is a moot point.
/r/seduction22/12/14 07:03 PM
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Fair point.
/r/seduction22/12/14 07:01 PM
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He was desperate. More than you'd imagine.
/r/seduction22/12/14 04:25 PM
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This is a gradual thing, it isn't an explosion of game that you get. Just keep going and understand that there's more to this than just getting your dick wet (not that there's anything wrong with that of course). Eventually you'll look back and realize how awesome you've become, but this is a long road. There is no quick fix, one-size-fits all.
/r/seduction11/12/14 11:31 PM
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Honestly, I don't think that you did anything wrong with this specific interaction, but I think that the fact that your inner game wasn't that good that night (at least from what I read in your FR) reflected on your performance and. I'll reiterate what I wrote in my original post: the reason routines work is that you're confident that they work and thus portray that confidence. Work on your inner game and confidence, results will naturally come. You're only in day 24, it took me months of crashi…
/r/seduction11/12/14 09:43 PM
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Alrighty, let's dig slightly deeper here: What is the meaning of this? There probably is no meaning to it. It happened, deal with it or crawl back into your room. There are so many things outside of our control, we cannot stop to think what the meaning of something is every single time. Sometimes you just gotta accept ignorance. Dude, I'm almost 26, come across as 28 with a beard, and I still flirt with 18-19 years old girls with no problem. This "Creepy Old Dude" thing is 100% in your head. Abo…
/r/seduction11/12/14 09:05 PM
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Excellent FR buddy. Here are a few pointers for you: Inner Game - work on that shit. Seriously. I know it's easier said than done - hell, it's far easier starting with Outer Game/routines and then moving on to Inner Game (that's the way I started), but it's solid Inner Game that gives you the real value. In the end, the routines work because you are confident that they work and that they portray certain value. Your AA - I have a personal technique that I use when dealing with AA. I imagine the g…
/r/seduction11/12/14 04:28 PM
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Amsterdam, baby!
/r/seduction17/11/14 06:22 PM
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Your premise is wrong here, as you confuse cause and effect: you do not have trouble approaching women because you are shy; rather, you are shy because you do not talk with women! So how do you deal with this? Remind yourself that by approaching women, with all the stumbling and failure, you will become a more confident person. That's all there is to it.
/r/seduction22/08/14 11:36 AM
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You are horny right now, yes. However, your original post suggests that you care that you're on a dry spell; not that you're horny, but that you haven't gotten laid in a while. In my opinion, this comes from dependence on results, rather than anything else. This is of course only my opinion, I'm no mind-reader or anything.
/r/seduction09/04/14 07:47 PM
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The last dry spell I had lasted 9 months. You know what kept me going? The fact that I knew that no matter what happened, I will get laid eventually, and I did. Now, I must ask you: why do you care that you are on a dry spell?
/r/seduction09/04/14 07:31 PM
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You have one-itis. You will not fuck this girl - she knows you since you were fucking 12. Get over her - it ain't gonna happen if she's known you for seven years. Get to the gym, shake that extra weight off. As far as your social anxiety is concerned - this is something that comes with practice. Start by asking women who work behind the counter silly questions (like asking a flower shop where it sells its bread), then try holding a 1-minute conversation. Now, more importantly, why are you nervou…
/r/seduction08/04/14 07:06 PM
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I think you're missing the point that Throwaway was trying to make.
/r/seduction27/03/14 09:42 PM
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You're really overthinking things. Just go for it, see what happens! You're talking about high school, when everybody's emotionally fucked up (thank you, hormones!). So really, just go and see what happens.
/r/seduction16/02/14 01:39 AM
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Well, then, here's something that may help you: when you don't get laid, do you become uglier? Do you become less intelligent? Do you become less of a good person because you did not get laid for a while? Of course not. Hell, last December I got out of a dry spell of 9 months and still didn't care that much about it. Why? Because I understood that who I am, my personality and character, are not influenced by my mere achievements and checklist of "Got laid X time ago". When I showed real interest…
/r/seduction15/02/14 07:16 PM
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When your game increases, it is not a linear process; you will meet plateaus, then have a sudden spike in improvement and then meet another plateau. These plateaus can last indefinitely for some, and are the most frustrating part of improving your game. However, in order to improve, you need to keep going. It is what separates those who made it from those who gave up halfway. At this point, I can't go back to being to sexless Beta I used to be. This is a problem. You seem to correlate your value…
/r/seduction15/02/14 04:23 PM
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No, that does not make you an asshole. We are in the entire seduction/game community (if you can even call it that) because we want to get laid. Now, a few pointers: You do not know what arrangements the girl is having with her boyfriend. As far as you know, they may even have an open relationship where she's bringing a second person to their bedroom every other Tuesday. It is not unnatural for a woman to be with multiple men; when homo sapiens first started the hunter-gatherer idea, monogamy wa…
/r/seduction15/02/14 04:11 PM
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She didn't want to reject you out-right. I know, you'd rather have her be honest, but she probably thinks that by simply not responding to you, she's not being a complete and utter bitch by rejecting you. Next!
/r/seduction23/01/14 03:54 PM
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You approach her the same way you approach any girl. You just try to be more quiet about it, that's all. You say "Hi, I saw you sitting there and just had to talk with you" or something along those lines. I personally find that public transport allows for extremely fast game - you have a very specific time frame, and that allows you to behave in a much more bold fashion than you otherwise would.
/r/seduction23/01/14 03:52 PM
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You came here for help, that is good. Now, most of Seddit seems to prefer so-called "Natural Game"; no routines, being your best self and just going with the flow. A great part of this is result independence. I suggest that you read about that. I know, I know, being dry for 11 months is hard. When I got into seduction, I was on a 2 years' dry spell, so trust me, I know how hard it can be. Start out with simple challenges; try talking with at least one stranger every day. Quit smoking (it's tough…
/r/seduction10/01/14 04:06 PM
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This is what we call ASD - Anti-Slut Defense. Most girls don't like to feel like they're sluts, like they're too easy. It makes them feel dirty. And with the standards of today's society, can you blame them? One of the best ways to deal with ASD is to put it up, yourself - behave like the prize. Say something along the lines of "You know you're not getting into my pants tonight, right? I'm not that easy". This reframes the interaction: if you sleep, you are the slut, not her. However, this can a…
/r/seduction10/01/14 03:50 PM
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There are a few prerequisites to wherever it is you want to go out to: 1) Non-threatening, relaxed atmosphere. It's important that everyone feels at ease. 2) Should have closing spots. In other words, it should have places where you can kiss the girl (maybe do some foreplay), without too many people noticing. Considering the fact that you're 17 (I assume you live in the US and thus can't really go to a pub), I think that the movies could be something nice. However, due to the difficulty of talki…
/r/seduction30/10/13 11:48 AM
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Getting over AA definitely feels good. I've been doing this stuff for several years now, and let me tell you something - you will never stop getting rejections. There will be fewer, but I still get rejected all the time. Hell, even fucking Mystery gets rejected. Now, as far as your FR, here are a few pointers that may help you: 1) What you say is not nearly as important as how you say it. I can tell the most interesting story in the world, but if I do it in a monotonous, boring tone, nobody will…
/r/seduction22/10/13 01:49 PM
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While the lessons this article provides are definitely good ones, I have some beef with the "or Be Single Forever" bit in the title - it implies that women are either a goal or a means to happiness. This, in turn, puts the woman on a pedestal, which is something the very article argues against. I like pointing out discrepancies. :3
/r/seduction22/10/13 01:43 PM
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A way to deal with these shit tests is to agree and amplify. E.g.: Girl: someone might see us! Boy: good, let's give them a show to remember. Other than that, great FR. Solid work - party vibe and not afraid to escalate, but not too quick. I personally have the tendency of escalating WAY too quickly, but balance is always needed.
/r/seduction06/07/13 08:44 AM
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To put it simply, it helped me understand that I can put my foot down without being a jerk. I used to have little to no self-confidence (thank you, moving to another country at the age of 13), which also reflected on how I behaved with my family - PUA-stuff also affected that.
/r/seduction17/05/13 03:14 PM
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Ah, the white knights. Fuck those people, really. If they think I'm an asshole for doing it, fuck 'em and their assumptions. They know not what kind of a marriage the girl was in, what kind of an agreement she had with her husband/wife, nor is it any of their business. What they do is nothing short of imposing their morality on others.
/r/seduction17/05/13 10:32 AM
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Sure thing! Here's a quick elaboration on the evening: I'm in this student party. The girl approaches one of my friends, and points to me. He explains to me that she wants to know where I'm from, and tells me "Dude, she wants to fuck you!". I try to talk, but then I figure out that the language barrier is too much. I grab her hand and lead her to one of the more quiet areas of the club (in other words: isolated. She showed major interest, so I isolated her). She starts trying to talk in English,…
/r/seduction16/05/13 09:51 PM
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Maybe he is an asshole for doing it Why am I an asshole for sleeping with a married woman, not knowing she was married until after I slept with her?
/r/seduction16/05/13 09:14 PM
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Let me start by telling you my story: I found out about pick-up roughly 7 years ago, when I was 17. I originally read Neil Strauss' The Game. I was stupid back then, thinking that a book could give me a magic bullet, without approaching or crashing & burning. Boy, was I wrong. Around 3 and a half years ago (second year of my Bachelor's degree), I started to revisit what I read, with a fresh and more open perspective. However, I still didn't approach or do anything. However, it helped me improve …
/r/seduction16/05/13 08:46 PM
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This was a shit test. Now, what's the point of a shit test? Essentially, a shit test shakes your frame. How do you beat a shit test? You shake her frame, in return, rather than actually tackling the shit test. Here's an example: Boy: Where should I sit? Girl: If you want to sit, you can sit over there. Boy: You're a bossy/feisty one, aren't you? I like it! Give me a real woman, any day! I think you just earned my company! And just like that, you just rocked the girl's world by demonstrating that…
/r/seduction21/04/13 02:10 PM
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Yikes! Super-late reply, bur here it is: toughest part was not giving up, and fighting for all I've got against all the shit tests, cock-blocks and all,while keeping a solid inner game and frame. That's the toughest part.
/r/seduction19/04/13 06:51 PM
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I usually start with "Hey, I wanna try a small personality test on you". And go for the cube. If I do it correctly, they love it, and they're open for nearly any subsequent test. It's really simple - no need to mask your intentions: you're on a date with a girl/are speaking with her in a pub or club. She knows why. Trust me, she knows.
/r/seduction15/04/13 06:10 PM
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The Cube is a test created by Style (author of The Game), see more info here, though it's mostly a lot of cold reading. The hand-squeeze-trust-test is made by Tyler, read about it here. The cherry field test is originally named the strawberry field test, and is my personal favorite, dunno who made it. Read about it here
/r/seduction14/04/13 10:59 PM
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Public Transport is a personal favorite of mine - fast-paced, most people are in their own little bubble, and you can open with just about anything.
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:16 PM
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last part of the FR We go outside, I show her the lights of Amsterdam from across the water, kino her a bit from behind, but there's no response. We take the ferry. She asks me whether I know which tram she has to take - I don't. She hugs me goodbye, and I go to get myself some good scotch at a whiskey bar I've heard about, feeling frustrated. Had to scare off a drunkard who tried to harass me, as well. Bah. D:< the next day - a possible second chance? The next day (Saturday), I see that girl #2…
/r/seduction14/04/13 03:41 PM
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Okay, you essentially make two arguments here. Let's analyze them. And because that is the type of question that could be appropriate for a girl that's a only a friend. Not for a girl that you've just met and are trying to take home. Most girls won't feel comfortable talking about that with some guy they just met, and you risk coming off as a total creeper. My experience with girls has taught me otherwise. Girls are surprisingly open about their sex life. In addition, I don't want to hear about …
/r/seduction12/04/13 12:12 PM
1

Reasons or GTFO
/r/seduction12/04/13 12:12 AM
1

Then you follow the ancient advice of 'fake it til you make it'. In other words - don't mention it, don't talk about it. Remember - if you don't make a deal out of something, she won't do it either.
/r/seduction11/04/13 10:23 PM
2

Yes, they find it attractive. Just about anything you do with enough confidence will be attractive to girls. When you talk about sex with them, you demonstrate that you're not some virgin-AFC who doesn't know what sex is like and finds it embarrassing to talk about. The reason girls are never quite as open as guys is because most guys don't ask them, or don't create enough comfort and attraction before asking them that.
/r/seduction11/04/13 11:19 AM
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Ah, it is always nice to see one of the newbies stepping into the game. It sounds like you need an introduction to two simple words: assume attraction. Also, ask for her number using whatever - the what/how isn't important- but damn it, ask for the number! She isn't a mind-reader, and unless you have the balls to ask for her number, you ain't getting it! Here's a handy technique with conversations, I call it the question-story/statement-question conversation technique (I think it's from Mystery …
/r/seduction11/04/13 02:28 AM
2

"Sabotaging someone else's relationship" implies malicious intent. This was not the case - I went out to have a good time with the girl and ended up sleeping with her. That is all there is to it.
/r/seduction02/04/13 09:29 AM
1

I usually don't even respond to these kinds of replies, but I'll make an exception for you. To me, fucking a girl is only immoral if it's against her will. As long as two consenting adults are at it, who the fuck are you to judge? Are we to uphold your conception of morality, regardless of our own opinion? Just who the hell do you think you are?!
/r/seduction02/04/13 08:41 AM
1

Nah, there was a way around the fences, which is a bit of a detour. That's probably the way most people took. :P
/r/seduction02/04/13 08:39 AM
12

The Cube is a test created by Style (author of The Game), see more info here, though it's mostly a lot of cold reading. The hand-squeeze-trust-test is made by Tyler, read about it here. The cherry field test is originally named the strawberry field test, and is my personal favorite, dunno who made it. Read about it here Keep in mind - no amount of reading will help you if you don't go out and practice!
/r/seduction01/04/13 10:33 PM
1

You got yourself a tricky situation, indeed! Let's look at it a tiny bit deeper. You know her for a week. Did you notice mutual attraction? Did you notice her getting ridiculously comfortable around you (that's a sign of the friendzone), or did you notice that look in her eyes, that spark, when she wonders whether you're going to kiss her? This is what it boils down to, attraction vs comfort. If she's more comfortable than she is attracted to you, you're in the friendzone. Well, what if she stil…
/r/seduction10/02/13 07:42 PM
1

Okay, let me tell you something here - if you want to have sex with a girl, without risking your friendship, you already are screwed. You are in the friendzone. Girls do not fuck guys that they have friendzoned. "So how do we get out of this friendzone?" you may ask. 'Tis simple, young one! You get out of the girl's life. You don't see her for a while, so you have time to re-shape yourself, become the best you can be, that good jazz. In other words - you will get new friends, meet new women, liv…
/r/seduction10/02/13 06:23 PM
8

You were probably too available for her. You thought "Hey, I've been seeing this girl for a while, we got something going on, now I can allow myself to be more available for her!" Wrong. Being available all the time is a huge turn-off. Once a girl sees that you've become too available, she'll lose interest.
/r/seduction10/02/13 06:17 PM
1

Not really. It's the people on the other side who have a hard time accepting the fact that there is no magic bullet, save for going out to the field.
/r/seduction06/02/13 03:09 PM
1

Good link, CollegeTownPUA! I must say, the Book of Pook is most likely the one book that has influenced my PUA-mentality the most. Glad to see I'm not alone here. :)
/r/seduction25/01/13 10:11 PM
2

I don't have confident body language Work on that shit. Learn how body language works, and act accordingly. Expand your chest, pull your chin up! Smile! You have internet access - you are in the top 10% of the fucking world, son! Now, on another note, let me tell you a little story that might help you. There's this guy. His name is Mr. Loser. He's always been a part of you, and always will be. He's a part of very single human fucking being. He will tell you you aren't good enough. He will tell y…
/r/seduction22/01/13 03:35 PM
1

That's true, in general. For me, summer holidays is the time for me to visit my family back home and catch up. Maybe it's just me, but family > babes. I try to sarge when I'm back home, though, but logistics are problematic, to put it mildly (I mean, I'm staying at my fucking aunt's/grandparents' place!).
/r/seduction07/01/13 03:41 AM
3

I've been in Seddit since I seriously started gaming - nearly two years ago, when I was studying abroad in Belgium. This 100,000 subscribers is both a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing, because it keeps the entire PUA-scene active and changing, but it's also a curse because of all of the failure stories we will get. That's right. Every day, we're going to have more and more of those lame blog posts who try to justify being the white knight in shining armor, justifying being the nice guy, jus…
/r/seduction06/01/13 03:14 AM
1

I think that the girl gave you a shit test. You should have agreed and amplified (e.g. "Yeah, I'm actually 12 years old. I'm surprised I got a stubble at this early age!").
/r/seduction05/01/13 06:12 PM
1

You've been texting with this girl since mid-December? Damn, lad, you're basically nearly in the friendzone right now! Back off with the texting! You've got shit to do, people to see, and you don't have time to needlessly text a girl who you've only met for two fucking minutes. My advice - find a cool place. After you hand in your dissertation, text the girl with something like "I just handed in my dissertation, so let's celebrate!" or something like that. Find a place that suits your style and …
/r/seduction05/01/13 06:09 PM
10

Ignore her. She might come back. If you try "winning her back", you'll just prove that you're an AFC and will never see her again.
/r/seduction05/01/13 03:41 AM
3

Haven't been able to get in touch with a number pull from 4 days ago because I've been sick. How should I start the conversation? I wish to use text. Text her "Hey, this is derp, how's it going?". I personally prefer just calling the girl (allows for far richer communication), but go ahead and text. Also, a friend of mine has a really hot friend. My friend is constantly inviting me out to chill when they go to hangout. I asked for her friends number awhile back and never called because I was in …
/r/seduction05/01/13 03:40 AM
1

As TheCasualty said, dance your heart out! You being able to dance is a huge DHV. Seriously. You have no idea. Finished dancing? Look around. See that cute girl? Take her to the side, start chatting her up, and then get her to dance with you: teach her some dance moves or something, or perhaps make dance moves your first date with her after you close!
/r/seduction05/01/13 03:37 AM
2

My good man, rejoice! You have struck that one-night-stand. From here on, your game will probably keep improving, until you reach the next plateau. Let me explain exactly what you did well: you accepted her challenge. Women like getting laid. You have no idea how much they love it. They can have multiple fucking orgasms. Now, you took her out on a date - that didn't go so well, but the girl decided to give you kind of a second chance, as you really clicked online (kind heart, I've had a girl com…
/r/seduction05/01/13 03:32 AM
2

You have made progress. This is good! Now, you remember that feeling you had, fucking skipping down the street, alcohol coursing through your veins, high on life and whatever other substances you may have digested? Feels good, doesn't it? Emulate that feeling when sober. It's twenty times better, and girls notice that shit. And they love it.
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:42 PM
5

"Hello, hello, hello! What matter of debauchery is this?"
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:37 PM
7

Odd, I actually heard the following: Eyes up --> Don't talk to me Eyes sideways --> You can talk to me Eyes down --> Talk to me!
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:36 PM
1

For your specific case, I'd say you need to agree and amplify - "Yeah, of course, and I also flew to England on that same night to moon the queen!" This way, you show the target you're witty, funny and can hold you own against an AMOG, while telling your friend "Dude, quit it, seriously, you're not being funny."
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:35 PM
4

"Oh yeah, and there was also the one time I rode on a rhino while you were drinking cocktails, right?" (with a shit-eating grin).
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:31 PM
1

You magnificent bastard.
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:29 PM
2

www.fuckmusic.fm
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:28 PM
2

I'm also kind of in the same boat, and I found that if you speak confidently, your accent will actually work in your favor. It's a great conversation piece (having people try to guess your accent).
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:27 PM
1

"Hi, how're you doing?"
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:25 PM
3

This is basically the correct response, though personally I'd go for "You should be my wingwoman!"
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:25 PM
2

The kino guide by Mystery & Lovedrop (I think it's been taken off of YouTube) is one I found very illuminating. I still remember the BBB rule - bullshit baffles brains. What does this mean? If you touch a girl while talking, as if it's the most casual thing ever, and continue talking, she will barely even notice that you're escalating.
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:24 PM
1

This article, in my opinion, offers a complete misrepresentation of what being alpha is. An alpha male is, per definition, comfortable with himself. I once saw this guy, he was quiet, just sat there, smiling and talking quietly, but that worked for him. Why? Because he was alpha about it. His body language portrayed that he was alpha, the way he said things and moved was alpha.
/r/seduction23/12/12 02:07 PM
2

Okay, newbies, pay attention to this FR and read it multiple times - this is how it's done! A few key points from OP's FR: Entrance - get in there with a bang, make your entrance noteworthy! Company - bringing a good looking friend, or a girl you picked up somewhere who is hot, is always a DHV High energy - high-5'ing people while wishing them a merry Christmas is awesome. Why? Because you make people smile and you get the party mood going on. kino - throughout the FR, OP kino'd his targets. Be …
/r/seduction23/12/12 01:57 PM
1

I did that mostly because I had the tendency of texting the girl within hours/minutes of meeting her. I use this rather arbitrary limitation of 4 days in order to not scare her away.
/r/seduction21/12/12 01:33 PM
2

In 10 years in the Netherlands, do you know how many people I met who cared that I'm Jewish/Israeli, in a negative way? Two. One was a clerk in a shawarma place that refused to serve me, because I'm Jewish (saw my David Star necklace). Second one was an idiot who tried to convince me that the Jews control the world and ran away like I'm the devil himself when I told him I'm Jewish. Whatever you are, it's only a problem if you make it into one.
/r/seduction21/12/12 01:32 PM
1

The Cherry Field is a test I learned from a friend of mine in Brussels, it tests how the girl looks at sex. It goes like this: Imagine that you're walking outside, it's a beautiful summer day, rolling green hills, and you come across a cherry field. This field is surrounded by a fence. How tall is the fence? How well kept is it? (the fence represents the amount of resistance a girl wants to put up before she'll be willing to sleep with a guy. Its state is how important she finds it to not be a s…
/r/seduction21/12/12 01:27 PM
1

I only found out about the little sister being after a breakup after I treated her like a brat, but she didn't seem to mind it, nor did my target at the time.
/r/seduction21/12/12 02:44 AM
2

Nearly 24 over here. Been doing this stuff semi-seriously for a couple of years now, making steady progress.
/r/seduction20/12/12 11:56 PM
2

The best dates are the original ones. You wanna take her for ice cream? Make it into a fucking adventure. Yeah, that's right - an ice cream adventure. Walk along the river? Treasure hunt! Also, get to know the cool venues in your area. Find places that fit your style, and bring girls there.
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:05 AM
8

There's this guy in your head. His name is Mr. Loser. He's the guy who would like you to stay home and never ever leave your computer, because that's safer and you won't get hurt. He talks with you when you see that cute girl, and runs all the different scenarios in your head. And before you know it, that girl is gone. Boom, never to be seen again, and Mr. Loser smugly sits there and thinks "Yeah, threat thwarted!" Next time you have those thoughts, I want you to say, very quietly - so quietly n…
/r/seduction22/11/12 01:15 AM
2

WHAT you open with is not half as important as HOW you open. I don't care how witty or intelligent you are, I don't care how many books you've read or where you've been to - if you don't deliver confidently, you're fucked. Stop overthinking this, and BE confident.
/r/seduction27/10/12 02:14 AM
9

"Hi, how are you?"
/r/seduction26/10/12 08:23 PM
2

Go out, find a nice pub/cafe/lounge/whatever, take the girls there - find yourself a nice and secluded spot. As for feeling weird - the more you ask girls out (don't spell it out as a date always, though, that might make you seem awkward), the less you will feel odd about it. Practice, practice, practice!
/r/seduction26/10/12 08:23 PM
12

There's this guy in your head. His name is Mr. Loser. He's the guy who would like you to stay home and never ever leave your computer, because that's safer and you won't get hurt. He talks with you when you see that cute girl, and runs all the different scenarios in your head. And before you know it, that girl is gone. Boom, never to be seen again, and Mr. Loser smugly sits there and thinks "Yeah, threat thwarted!" Next time you have those thoughts, I want you to say, very quietly - so quietly n…
/r/seduction26/10/12 08:21 PM
6

Let me ask it rather bluntly: did you fuck her yet? After 4 dates, sex is usually a given. If you haven't fucked her yet, then next.
/r/seduction26/10/12 08:17 PM
3

Dude, I'm pretty sure she's DTF. Don't fuck this up.
/r/seduction21/10/12 01:21 AM
7

I understand your point here - in my opinion, though, these FRs are nearly as bad as keyboard jockey-bullshit.
/r/seduction20/10/12 09:23 PM
1

Okay, no offense to you, but this is a real shitty FR. What do we know from this FR? "I made her laugh. I could tell that she dug me." What lesson do you have here for the community, damn it? None whatsoever! All you write here is "lol, pregnant woman, I didn't see". Really, that is (IMHO) sub-par for Seddit.
/r/seduction20/10/12 08:55 PM
2

The answer is very simple - get a life. Get a job, start working, whatever. Don't be the guy who rides on the value a cool person brings to the group - BE the guy who brings value to the group. YOU be the guy people ask you to go to parties. Don't fucking depend on others to bring you to a party.
/r/seduction20/10/12 08:53 PM
0

Dude, your height is not a problem. Use it as something to laugh about. It's only a problem if you make it a problem. Man the fuck up.
/r/seduction20/10/12 08:51 PM
3

... Wow, really? This is her basically saying "I want to have sex with you". Come up with a witty response, something along the lines of "Congratulations! You are now categorized as 'Tryn to Fuck'. Please suggest a follow-up date to complete the transaction in person." There, just off the top of my head.
/r/seduction20/10/12 08:44 PM
32

This is happening right now with a girl I work with Stop. Right. There. Don't mix girls and work. Really, don't. Don't shit where you eat, lad. That's at least what I would do.
/r/seduction20/10/12 08:38 PM
1

There's an underlying question here - rather than saying 'girls are interested in x', let us look in what all people are interested in - value. We are all addicted to it. Every single one of us. Value and recognition. What happens to people who do not receive value and recognition? They eventually go insane. That's right. Insane. There is no one paradigm here, but any person in the world - be it a woman, a man, or whatever - will generally be looking to gain value and not devaluate the other per…
/r/seduction16/10/12 08:54 PM
0

As usual, puaCurveball hit the nail right on the head. The key part in his reply is: You don't fuck your guy friends, and coming from a friendship frame with women does not build sexual attraction. The entire idea of "boy meets girl, they become friends, girl is hurt by insensitive asshole and falls to the open arms of the nice guy", is pure fantasy. Friendships do not lead to sexual attraction in 99.999999999% of the cases. Of course, the flip side is not thinking about being in a relationship.…
/r/seduction16/10/12 08:47 PM
1

Wow, hasty generalization much? You say that a more attractive girl is less likely to have an interesting personality? Let me tell you a story - my best friend had a girlfriend. Fucking amazing lass, from Ecuador. At least HB9 on nearly any dude's spectrum. Was she boring? Was she empty headed? Nope. She was actually one of the most interesting people I've ever met. This is already your premise proven wrong. Looks and brains are not mutually exclusive. One who believes otherwise and then goes fo…
/r/seduction30/09/12 02:18 PM
5

You're confusing going for a girl and denying a girl attention. 'Tis a very fine nuance.
/r/seduction30/09/12 11:35 AM
0

Uh, yeah, I'm gonna call bullshit on you. If I see two girls next to each other, one is infinitely more physically attractive than the other, I'm gonna go for the hottest one! First impressions (thus including looks) do matter. A lot.
/r/seduction30/09/12 11:08 AM
1

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
/r/seduction20/09/12 01:33 PM
6

In How to Win Friends and Influence People, the author specifically discusses how to ask questions. I could go on rambling about this, but it boils down to this: Someone says something. You acknowledge it and show you understand it (for example, by giving an example from your personal life). You then ask a question about a specific detail from your story. Here, I'll give you an example of an interaction I just made up. Girl: I really like jazz music. Guy: You do? Oh, jazz is a great genre - I fi…
/r/seduction19/09/12 10:46 PM
-2

Keep eye contact. Let her know that you are the man here, and you will look at her, and you are not ashamed of it. Smile, let your head turn a tiny bit sideways as you pass her. It's not creepy - it's self-confident and alpha.
/r/seduction19/09/12 10:40 PM
7

Start by talking with them all - but treat your target the same way you'd treat a bratty little sister. Be amused when she's feisty (and even approve of it!), be confident, be physical (no, don't squeeze her boob in front of her friends and mid-conversaion. Just basic kino - touch her knee, shoulder, whatever, to emphasize your points). Eventually, find an excuse to isolate your target (something along the lines of "Hey, [friends of target] can I borrow [target] for a moment? I promise I'll give…
/r/seduction19/09/12 10:36 PM
3

Start by approaching girls. As far as reading is concerned, read the classics - Mystery, David Deangelo, Style, Carlos Xuma, Tyler Durden and Adam Lyons. One personal favorite of mine is The Book of Pook, though you must be careful of the slightly misogynistic tone it takes after a while.
/r/seduction19/09/12 10:13 PM
1

Right, let me tell you one thing - you went to the place that is usually considered the toughest area to sarge at (I still have problems sarging in clubs). The bunny-ears one is perfect. Figure out a cool follow-up to it. Something like "Eh, what's up doc?". But there is one thing that you need to do - keep approaching women. Figure out where the conversation went cold/you felt uncomfortable and ejected. Was it after you ran your basic routine on them and you were surprised that they didn't atta…
/r/seduction19/09/12 10:10 PM
3

In general, a first-date kiss is not a problem. Now, you got friend-zoned. Why did that happen? Very simple - too much comfort, not enough initial attraction. This is one of the few golden rules of being a PUA. How does one get out of the friendzone? It's very much counter-intuitive - one must be content in the friendzone and let the girl know one is happy with it. Being her friend, one will feel comfortable seeing other girls, even if she is present. This will cause her to think things along th…
/r/seduction19/09/12 02:34 PM
3

Lovedrop? Ah, you good ol' PUA. I'm surprised an oldie such as yourself is still active (then again, do we really ever stop the game?). Good to see you're still out there! As you know, both rookies and veterans make mistakes. What is, in your opinion, the one point where you knew you moved from rookie to an actual veteran? Was it a specific close, a specific moment while answering someon'e questions, or was it a completely random moment?
/r/seduction19/09/12 02:28 PM
3

This works really well in public transport: You're sitting down, minding your own business, when you see this girl - a brunette, blonde, redhead, whatever - sitting not so far away, gazing outside. You measure her up - but then you make eye contact. You quickly move your eyes away. You know she's seen you, she knows you know. You smile - let the game begin. For the next few minute, you play a game of "chicken" using eye contact. Then, when you know she's looking at you, you just turn your head a…
/r/seduction18/09/12 11:34 PM
2

This is a simple case of you accepting your role within a group. When you were a freshman, you felt like an outsider - and you were. You just started. Now you're studying abroad (I had a great experience while studying abroad in Brussels), you're also an outsider. But here's something you should understand - everyone who is studying abroad is an outsider. When it comes to groups you'll be frequenting, here are a few tips: You are not necessarily the center of attention. Your group is. This means…
/r/seduction18/09/12 11:28 PM
2

First, give us some more material to work with, son! How did you approach them? Did you first try talking, or did you just grab them from behind and start grinding on their arse (protip: don't. Girls don't like surprise arse-grabs if they don't know what you look like). The thing about clubs is that it's mostly body language and frame control, in addition to dance moves. What I mean by that is that in a nightclub, you need to be as alpha as fuck. I've got this one natural friend of mine, I have …
/r/seduction18/09/12 11:16 PM
6

I could not agree more with what you are propagating for, my good man. Indeed, while one must certainly not diminish the value of inner game (especially when dealing with AA and the like), one should not negate outer game, either. Even moreso, one could reason that outer game is more important than inner game (though the opposite can be reasonably argued, as well). As pake123 accurately demonstrated, it is more than likely that the majority of people on Seddit are keyboard jockeys / neckbeards. …
/r/seduction18/09/12 11:00 PM
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Most people let life just slip by, and act as bystanders. In the end, they die as if they've never even lived, they just saw themselves wither. I beg to differ. I am self-confident. I am a man who lives here and now, working towards his panultimate goals. I do not give up - no matter the challenge. And no matter what I do - I fucking own that shit. That's what makes me awesome.
/r/seduction16/09/12 09:02 PM
1

23 years old here, gonna turn 24 in nearly 3 months. Late teens-early twenties seems to be the average age for people on PUA forums and the like.
/r/seduction14/09/12 11:13 PM
2

Dude, public transport is probably one of the easier places to do direct approaches at. Think about it - nearly everyone is in their own little world (reading a book, listening to music, texting, whatever), and you suddenly pull this beautiful lady out of her world, and talk to her. All eyes are on you, but you just talk. Suddenly, that world that she had became a whole lot bigger - 'cause a guy talked to her. Now, that's the theory behind it. The practical side is very simple - walk up to them …
/r/seduction12/09/12 04:35 PM
2

This gives the word 'broad' a whole new meaning.
/r/seduction20/07/12 07:19 AM
1

My grandfather once told me the following, very wise life lesson: I have never regretted doing something half as much as I have regretted not trying. If you try, the answer might be "no". If you don't try, you will never know, as you will never try, and it will haunt you for days, years in extreme cases.
/r/seduction10/07/12 04:08 PM
2

You're really overthinking this, man. You invited her to a party that's 3 weeks away. Most people are not sure of their plans for next week, let alone 3 weeks in advance! I'll join skyshock's advice here: remind her of this in a few weeks. Take it easy, don't be needy. Behave as if you have 100 girls, and she's just another one. That's all she is, in the end - she's just another girl.
/r/seduction06/07/12 10:49 AM
2

As tomacuni said - you got the hardest part out of the way. Now, I would like to use the words of the Book of Pook (my personal favorite in the PUA related books' world): You are confusing cause and effect! It is not your low self-confidence that prevents you from approaching women; rather, it is you not approaching women that leads to you low self-confidence. So, in the most practical sense, this means that you need to keep on approaching - don't stop. Keep going at it. Again, and again, and ag…
/r/seduction06/07/12 10:47 AM
1

I once read a very interesting analogy about kino - it's much like touching a horse. The idea is to touch, to get the horse used to your touch. Keep touching for too long, and the horse will freak out. So, how do we apply this? Very simple - a girl usually feels the same things you do while you touch her. If things start feeling awkward, back down for a few moments. If you feel they're getting steamy, or there is no response yet, escalate!
/r/seduction04/07/12 06:35 AM
1

No, it ain't an issue unless you make it one. Hell, even Neil Strauss, aka Style, is bald!
/r/seduction11/06/12 06:52 PM
2

First, nice FR, although I presonally prefer paragraphs over bulletpoints. Now, what to do after you got the kiss and the number on the same night? Follow-up! Contact her, read on text game (SIDEBAR! Also, I personally really like "So, turns out I'm 20% more awesome today. How was your day?" works wonders to start a funny texting conversation), apply it, set up a date outside of the clubbing scene, be attractive & confident, F-close.
/r/seduction07/06/12 09:36 PM
1

I think that there is an underlying issue here - how much do we trust the mods' judgement? As far as I am aware of, the mods have been very fair in their decisions. But that is a story for another debate.
/r/seduction07/06/12 09:32 PM
1

That's true, but it is a risk I was willing to take. She had lots of plans, and I'm not expecting her to move her plans, for me, just like I won't do the same for her.
/r/seduction06/06/12 03:47 PM
1

Nope - gebruikte het puur omdat Dorman al bezet was. :P
/r/seduction06/06/12 03:36 PM
1

You assume I give a flying shit about rivalries between cities. Not even Dutch here brah.
/r/seduction03/06/12 03:18 PM
1

lol no.
/r/seduction03/06/12 02:20 PM
2

I think you're overthinking it, man.
/r/seduction03/06/12 10:36 AM
3

I'm going to use the theory from the Book of Pook, easily my favorite PUA-related books: Many people are in your spot, but far further behind - they confuse cause and effect. Why is that? They think that they cannot approach girls, because they are shy. But it is the other way around - they are shy because they do not approach girls. Remember that, now. The only solution is to approach, approach, and then approach some more. You're on the right path, but now you have to switch that brain of your…
/r/seduction03/06/12 10:34 AM
1

I think that you're overthinking it.
/r/seduction03/06/12 10:29 AM
29

You, my friend, just earned a glass of sctoch next time you're in Amsterdam.
/r/seduction03/06/12 02:26 AM
3

I have two words for you, my friend - assume attraction. Even when when you kino and get absolutely no response, that is a good sign. Always move forward until she slaps you away, then it's two steps forward, one step back.
/r/seduction03/06/12 02:25 AM
8

This, good sir, is for you
/r/seduction03/06/12 02:19 AM
1

Thank'ee! Glad I could be of service! However, I'd like to point out that the goldfish sentence isn't made up by me, but by my best friend (who's a former-PUA now). I basically stole that from him. :)
/r/seduction03/06/12 02:14 AM
-8

I'm not out there to "steal girls", or to "get girls", for that matter. I'm out there in order to have a good time. Her having a boyfriend is completely irrelevant to me, and the mere notion that you refer to her as if I was stealing someone's property seems fundamentally wrong to me. I recommend you look into becoming result-independent. EDIT: Wow, downvotes? Stay classy, Reddit. Outcome-independence is apparently anti-hivemind. ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction03/06/12 02:11 AM
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Gonna have to go with October last year - I lived in Brussels, exchange student and all, and was hosting this pre-party to a larger, Erasmus party in my house. Alcohol was flowing, and we get into the club with no problem. I dance with my friends, just having fun, when this girl approaches one of my friends, and points to me. He tells me that she wants to know where I am from - turns out she's Spanish, and barely speak any English. My friend tells me "She wants to fuck you!" I grab the Spanish g…
/r/seduction02/06/12 09:40 PM
0

/r/askseddit is your friend.
/r/seduction02/06/12 07:13 PM
3

Get to know your city, get to know the places that fit your style the most, and take girls there. That's one of the basics of a good date, mate. :)
/r/seduction02/06/12 07:13 PM
2

A relaxed pub/lounge in the abandoned industrial area of Amsterdam. You can only reach the area using a ferry, so it gives the entire trip a somewhat advernture-like feeling.
/r/seduction02/06/12 06:47 PM
9

Right, hereunder the full correspondence between her and me, then: Me: Cool, I have a goldfish Her: Loooooooooool, I didn't expect that Me: I'll take that as a compliment Her: It was Me: Thank'ee. What're your plans for next week? Her: You don't give up. hmm... [enter list of plans here, including a BBQ] Me: Busy Girl... let's meet the day after the BBQ. Her: Friday. You're making me quite curious... Me: Sounds god, [time and place]. Ask your questions and I might, just might answer them. Her: m…
/r/seduction02/06/12 05:24 PM
4

She never admitted everything, but I base myself off of one simple concept - make the ho say 'no'! Until she actually tells me that she isn't interested in me, then I assume that she's fair game.
/r/seduction02/06/12 05:18 PM
4

I never met the guy, so I don't know.
/r/seduction02/06/12 04:42 PM
3

After a few minutes of us all talking, I realized my wing is locked in. I see it as my duty to help him get some action so i bail. Bro-code right there. Not mandatory, but defeinitely earned bro-points for that, lad! Now, a basic observation - your FB seems to want to destroy things between you and any other girl. How much time have you been seeing her? And as for your questions: It's always okay to run game. It works in more situations than just PUA. You were left alone with the HB you original…
/r/seduction02/06/12 04:41 PM
4

Well, you forget one thing - this could just as easily be a shit test. Considering her response, it probably was one. You'd be surprised how many girls tell you they have boyfriends, when they actually only use that to try and scare you away.
/r/seduction02/06/12 04:31 PM
3

I have some experience with game in foreign countries - I'm an Israeli, living in the Netherlands (9 years now), and I lived in Brussels for one year. My advice is very simple: don't give a damn and go for it. Body language is your friend - especially in countries like Italy, where people are very touchy-feely. Now, you're going to face one major obstacle - the language. Most Italians don't speak English, as far as I know. You will have to limit yourself to a very specific group, probably your s…
/r/seduction27/05/12 09:43 PM
3

Just tried this on OKC. Works like a charm. :D
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:26 PM
3

Okay, this video is full of bullshit. Full of it. Really. iznou's post in this thread has the most solid advice for this matter, really.
/r/seduction30/04/12 11:05 AM
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You have made progress! This is good! Now, remember how you are when you are this drunk and high, and emulate that when you are sober. I may sound like a bit of a daddy-figure here, but remember, if you can do it when drunk, you should be able to do so when sober. Alcohol and other drugs are a double-edged sword: it gets your self-confidence/lack-of-fucks-given meter high, but it also removes any kind of control you may have over yourself, which could turn you into a complete jackass. So, rememb…
/r/seduction29/04/12 12:05 PM
1

Absolutely solid advice here. Someone, add this to the sidebar!
/r/seduction11/04/12 08:31 AM
1

Now, if this map only existed for Western Europe... Should prove interesting.
/r/seduction06/03/12 07:06 AM
2

You might want to read this.
/r/seduction06/12/11 12:50 PM
1

Yeah, should've thought of that before I had that fourth ouzo... it gets to your head, and quickly at that point.
/r/seduction06/12/11 11:58 AM
6

So you need to understand how to escalate better, not stay in one spot for too long, and when to specifically make a move. I once heard a very good analogy about kino: it's much like touching a horse to calm it down. It's important to touch them, but if you touch the same area for too long, the horse is gonna freak out. There's nothing wrong with stopping kino for a moment, in order to help yourself increase the tension between you two (she'll think "is he going to touch me again, or not? Is he …
/r/seduction05/12/11 09:22 PM
3

When escalating, I find that the way to think (though it's best not to think, just do) that gets me the most comfortable with touching the girl is "Let's see what happens if I do this..." if she doesn't protest about it, it's alright.
/r/seduction05/12/11 09:03 PM
8

Look outside. You see those ladies, out there? There are plenty of women out there, who want to get laid, but can't, because they never get approached by the right guy. Go and do something about it.
/r/seduction04/12/11 10:35 PM
4

... Really? This article has a LOT of bullshit in it. You don't need to be a jerk in order to get laid. You just gotta have confidence and some balls to actually make the move... That's also like 90% of seduction. Jerks tend to have lots of self-confidence, which is the cause of the 'only jerks get laid' idea. That's all there is to it.
/r/seduction20/11/11 03:46 PM
2

Oh yeah. Definitely. Basically, the more we look forward to it and the more our body is expecting it, the more enjoyable the sex.
/r/seduction20/11/11 01:19 AM
2

No. It's not a bad thing. It's different, gets a while to get used to, and if you're careful enough you should be able to filter out the crazies. Just one thing - online cannot replace real-life interaction! Use it in addition to what you do in real life, not as an excuse to stay home (e.g. "Nah, I don't feel like sarging tonight, I'm on this website, flirting with this chick, I might get laid!").
/r/seduction17/11/11 10:11 AM
1

Actually, no. Improve the life you got. If it ain't broke, improve it.
/r/seduction17/11/11 10:08 AM
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Sorry, but is that even English?
/r/seduction16/11/11 11:59 PM
17

That's a crude way to put it, yet accurate nonetheless.
/r/seduction16/11/11 11:52 PM
2

Alrighty, here's some feedback from me on your style (I'm no master, but I think I'm decent at the very least) : You start out well, but over the long run there is far more comfort than attraction. You need to work on getting to the state where there's plenty of attraction (e.g. kino, DHV, social status, etc.), and just enough comfort. When comfort > attraction, you get friendzoned. Stop chasing this one special girl. Really. Just stop. You're result-dependent. You want a relationship, you want …
/r/seduction16/11/11 11:50 PM
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I'm on my mobile, so I can't give you a really elaborated answer. However, my general rule of thumb is: life goals > women. Take care of your life first; women should be something extra, like the icing on the cake. That's called being result-independent. But get your own shit straight first. It really helps... Excuse me if I wrote something that made no sense; kinda tipsy here.
/r/seduction16/11/11 10:09 PM
2

Yes, they are attracted to you. They won't be touching you if they weren't.
/r/seduction13/10/11 04:04 PM
2

That makes sense, aye. Should've thought about it before. Ah, well, gotta learn the hard way. :P
/r/seduction02/10/11 02:16 PM
1

Relax. That's all there is to it. You got this bro. Do whatever feels natural.
/r/seduction29/09/11 10:51 AM
1

I actually have experienced the complete opposite. Huh.
/r/seduction17/09/11 05:25 PM
1

What you say is really not as important as how you say it. I personally recommend approaching her diagonally (though this isn't exact science), making sure you don't startle her. Other than that, smile, and just say whatever you have to say.
/r/seduction17/09/11 05:24 PM
1

Basically, I actually just listened and showed admiration towsrds her father for surviving. Then I basically told her to move on to a different topic, as this one was getting too negative. Hope that helps!
/r/seduction16/09/11 10:38 AM
1

I know, watch what she does, not what she says. I did ramp up the escalation, before we had to part ways and couldn't get together because of logistics. Just gotta see how it will be today, when I go to her place...
/r/seduction16/09/11 08:32 AM
2

Dude. It's only natural if two people who fancy each other hook up. Most people really won't care. So, I'd say that you should go for it, but when you've isolated her.
/r/seduction14/09/11 06:24 PM
3

0/10
/r/seduction14/09/11 08:07 AM
1

Actually, sex is one of the most basic (physiological) needs of humans, according to Maslow's Pyramid of Needs
/r/seduction13/09/11 07:23 PM
1

I really don't think this will work. You need to change her mood, not her mind.
/r/seduction08/09/11 07:25 PM
7

You: "Hey, I'm having a really great time talking to you. We should do this again some time." HB: "Yeah!" You: "How can I contact you?" HB: "I can give you my number, it's blah blah blah" It's that easy.
/r/seduction07/09/11 09:13 AM
2

Hot Babe. You do the math. :3
/r/seduction04/09/11 12:47 PM
9

FR stands for Field Report. Thanks for the feedback. What I basically talked about was lots of fluff talk (movies, going out, etc.) and then The Cube personality test. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have to move on - but I'm still gonna try contacting her. Just can't think of anything witty to come up with, got any ideas? Hold on - looking at me phone again, looks like I might've accidentally saved it as a draft rather than sent. Drunken victory, perhaps? :D
/r/seduction04/09/11 12:09 PM
2

Me, too... oh, well, at least it's communication and media for me.
/r/seduction01/09/11 02:19 AM
1

Aw, man, I used to live in Brussels until July, now in Amsterdam. Enjoy it, man! That being said, well done with the F-close. Keep up the good work!
/r/seduction27/08/11 10:31 AM
2

Well, I've been living in Europe for nearly 9 years (originally Israel), and most of the Europeans are far less direct than people from the States. Also, when in business (especially in Germany), try to address people with their surnames (e.g. 'Herr x' or 'Frau Y'). That only applies to business culture, really. As far as women go, it's more or less the same anywhere you go.
/r/seduction18/08/11 01:31 PM
4

Personally, I look her in the eyes, and raise one eyebrow - basically trying to say 'Are you kidding me? Better make this worth my time.' She usually gets the hint and wraps it up quite quickly, followed by an apology?
/r/seduction13/08/11 10:05 PM
2

Approach Anxiety...
/r/seduction07/08/11 02:10 PM
3

I'd say you should go for it. Very simple - if you don't do it, someone else will stick his dick inside of her. If you and her want sex, and there's no legal problem with it, then it's settled as far as I am concerned.
/r/seduction05/08/11 12:40 AM
2

Man, can I ever find myself in your shoes. Used to be like that. Let me give it to you straight - there's nothing arrogant about accepting a compliment. Just say 'thanks' like it's nothing, and move on. That's the same advice Neil Strauss gives in The Game.
/r/seduction01/08/11 03:49 PM
3

Okay, you're practically self-hating on yourself. You have some serious introspection to do. You don't have to look like Brad Pitt in order for a woman to find you attractive. So, really, get the hell over your limiting belief.
/r/seduction01/08/11 09:47 AM
4

I'd recommend against it - ruins your game, really, social skills go down the drain.
/r/seduction01/08/11 09:43 AM
2

You seem to pay lots of attention to your looks, especially your physique. If it really bothers you that much, go to a gym, eat healthy, and burn that fat off. If you can't afford a gym, work out at home.
/r/seduction31/07/11 09:31 PM
1

Tried the mASF forums?
/r/seduction31/07/11 09:28 PM
1

Life is funny indeed. For example, in my last FR I talked about how I F-closed a CouchSurfer. I tried to get some more opportunities for a second fling, but didn't have the chance. Eventually, we're alone in a bed together, and she tells me she wants to, but can't.... because she's sore. Yup, you read that right. Sore. Besides my personal anecdote on how funny life can be. well done, dude! You need to find a way to isolate one of the girls you feel you have a good chance of laying (I'd say HB9).…
/r/seduction31/07/11 09:26 PM
3

I've got the same - I've got a round-shaped head, meaning that I've got somewhat of a baby face. The best answer to that, in my experience, is to say 'Well, that means I get to stay young.' and then leave it be. It really shouldn't harm your game that much, and if you think it does, then it's all in your head. The baby-face shouldn't be any trouble. At all.
/r/seduction31/07/11 09:11 PM
2

As 'The Pook' said: you are confusing cause and effect! It is not your lack of confidence that prevents you from approaching women and all, it is the fact that you are not approaching them that you do not have self-confidence!
/r/seduction27/07/11 11:20 PM
15

Alright, this is roughly what I did: I didn't work with a system, I went with what felt right. I'll try to illustrate it for you: I made out with her, started kissing her neck and that general area, wanted to feel her up - LMR - go back to kissing the neck and that general area for a while, feel her up again, try to take her shirt off - LMR - feel her up under the shirt and undo her bra, eventually she takes off the shirt, herself. Start rubbing her crotch through her pants - LMR - go back to ab…
/r/seduction26/07/11 05:35 PM
15

What's the weirdest Japanese girl you've ever met? Like, the one girl who made you think "Okay, I've seen some weird stuff, but THIS is just fucking freaky!"
/r/seduction08/07/11 07:44 PM
2

Easy solution - travel. Meet girls while travelling. Pick girls up while travelling. Meet up with girls in wherever they live later. It's actually pretty funny, how open people tend to be towards strangers while travelling.
/r/seduction05/07/11 11:15 PM
4

Okay, when it comes to this kind of game, direct is the way to go. But there is one extremely important rule of thumb - Just say 'hi'. There are no magic bullets. There are no golden methods or ways to turn your hands into Midas' hands. It's all you, we can only provide tools and feedback.
/r/seduction30/06/11 10:01 AM
6

... why are people even taking Lagarde seriously? Because of her, France's economy is close to imploding.
/r/MensRights29/06/11 04:33 PM
2

Act as if nothing happened. If you don't make a big deal out of it, she won't.
/r/seduction27/06/11 07:38 AM
3

I would like to use the Book of Pook for this: you are confusing cause and effect! It is not because of your low self-confidence that you do not approach, no! It is because you do not approach that you do not have self-confidence! So, what does that mean? Pretty simple - you have to approach in order to get self-confidence. Nothing else will do it. The more you approach, the easier it will become. Remember - if you don't approach the girl, you rejected yourself. Nobody else did. By not approachi…
/r/seduction27/06/11 07:36 AM
5

Body language, in itself, is extremely important. There are many things to remember, but from what I have noticed it can be summed up like this: expose vital areas of the body (throat, stomach, crotch, etc.) and deliberately show that they are unprotected (arms to the side/back), that is the basic confident body language.
/r/seduction27/06/11 07:31 AM
1

Okay, first thing first: Don't always get drunk/stoned/high/whatever. I know it's fun, think about what alcohol and drugs do to you: they destroy your anxiety, but they also tend to fuck up your social skills. Even more so, eventually you will need to drink/use drugs in order to have fun. Do you see what I'm getting at? Second, well done on the approaches. Going direct is something that I also really like. About the age - it's something very personal, but let me tell you one thing: while you are…
/r/seduction22/06/11 09:18 AM
2

As a guy who tends to approach women on public transport quite a lot, here's my two euro-cents: It's important to understand that there is a time limit. I recommend using direct stuff - the girl doesn't have time for you. She's got shit to do, man! So do you! Understand that and act accordingly. From my experience, one of the most important things when approaching women in public transport is to be relaxed. You're just a guy doing your thing. Talk about whatever, it doesn't matter, but make sure…
/r/seduction15/06/11 07:40 AM
2

Oh, that's something I'm already aware of. Yeah, I had fun anyway. I have to also admit that the other PUAs I was with were rather low on the energy.
/r/seduction12/06/11 08:02 PM
1

I'm actually coming to Amsterdam next Friday. Meet-up?
/r/seduction12/06/11 04:13 PM
2

Hey lad! Glad that it went well for ya! Keep up the good work! :)
/r/seduction12/06/11 02:08 PM
1

The thing people pay attention to is not what you do - it's that you do it. People like high-energy people.
/r/seduction10/06/11 05:38 PM
1

There's a link about conversation in the sidebar. I recommend you read it. -------------->
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:52 AM
1

I personally find that heavy rock - especially metal - concerts are great if you want to show how much fucking energy you've got. Let me give you an example (not from a concert, but still the same thing): I went on Friday to a punk-rock pub in Amsterdam with two other PUAs. At a certain point, Smells Like Teen Spirit comes up. Now, I don't know about you, but I just fucking love to mosh to that song. So we do that, and when it reaches the ending part, I stood in the middle of the mosh pit (like,…
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:35 AM
1

Dude, she said she will be there next week, means that she's flaked you while offering a different date. I'd say that this can happen, and you should just give it another go next week.
/r/seduction09/06/11 11:50 AM
2

Okay, the biggest question is - is this girl showing that she is attracted to him? Is she talking about stuff they should do together? [Ninja-edit: is she initiating most of the contact on Facebook?] If so, then he's still got attraction going on and should go for it. If not, he could try and re-create some attraction. This can be done by friend-zoning the girl. Yes, I know, it sounds counter-intuitive, but think about it for a moment: why do girls have guy friends, even when those guys are attr…
/r/seduction09/06/11 11:42 AM
4

Okay, you seem to misunderstand the way the vast majority of Jewish circumcisions - including mine - are done. Today, with so many blood-related diseases being out there, the Rabbi generally uses a long and thin pipe to suck out a symbolic amount of blood and holds it in the pipe, without it actually touching his lips. There is a saying in Judaism: The saving of a life is more important than the Shabbat.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 02:25 PM
2

Read the sidebar. ----------> There's a post specifically about how to be a wing.
/r/seduction08/06/11 09:19 AM
1

Ah, I must have missed that. While I have never lived in Tel-Aviv, the crime rate there is, from my experience, quite low.
/r/seduction07/06/11 11:47 AM
4

I'll respond with a response TofuTofu once supplied for this question: Her: how many women have you slept with? You: Today? Three and a half. trollface Her: no, seriously. You: I'm actually a virgin. trollface and then move on.
/r/seduction07/06/11 10:01 AM
1

The solution - meditation - sounds pretty much on the money. I've been to a PUA-convention in Brussels lately, and a psychologist there told us that the people with the best ability to control their emotions were actually Buddhist monks. By meditating, just observing what you do, 20 minutes a day, 5 times a week, you can raise your emotional awareness and reduce anxiety by a lot.
/r/seduction07/06/11 09:56 AM
1

Oh, the Tel-Aviv nightlife is quite good, believe me on that. Sure, you need to know some people to get into the really good places, but it's more than worth it. Why is the "low crime rate" (which you put in quotation marks for some reason) connected to anything?
/r/seduction07/06/11 09:30 AM
1

Good book, very interesting writing style (I always think of the ramblings of a madman), but be careful of the misogyny that can pop up.
/r/seduction07/06/11 08:14 AM
2

I'd recommend Tel-Aviv, in Israel: urban city centre, you can probably find some places to CouchSurf pretty easily, and I personally love Israeli women. The game in Israel is very direct, though, be prepared for that.
/r/seduction07/06/11 08:10 AM
2

Read it. I personally find it a great introduction to the seduction world, but that's all there is to it, save for Strauss' good writing style (see what I did there?).
/r/seduction07/06/11 08:01 AM
1

Um... approaching women, yourself, is kind of Seduction 101... why post this message here? Seems rather unnecessary. :/
/r/seduction06/06/11 01:25 PM
2

Okay, quickly some advice on grammar, to make your writing far more readable in the future: If there's a "did/does/" in the sentence, the rest of it becomes present tense. E.g. "I did go there." instead of "I did went there." Keep that in mind. "That's went on" should actually be "That went on". There's no need for two verbs in the past tense. "I wearing glasses"/"I 24" should be "I am wearing glasses"/"I am 24". Present tense = double verb (e.g. "she is going to/he is going to/you are going to.…
/r/seduction06/06/11 12:38 PM
1

No! In Soviet Russia, women approach YOU!
/r/seduction06/06/11 12:27 PM
2

........ Dude. You could have gotten laid that night. What's not respectable about getting laid?
/r/seduction06/06/11 12:24 PM
1

First thing, have an early welcome to Amsterdam! If you're up for it, I can call up a few Amsterdam-based Sedditors and we'll go sarging, :) Now, let's have a look at the FR here. Seems like you paid a lot of attention to the AMOGs, but I'm not sure whether this is a good or a bad thing. Seems like you had a lot of fluff talk there. Remember, you sometimes need to make the conversation topic a bit sexual (don't overdo it, though) in order to get the chick into thinking about sex with you. Now, a…
/r/seduction06/06/11 12:19 PM
3

First, I'd recommend posting this to r/AskSeddit. That being said - whoever said you need to pay money? Regardless, day-game is really, really cheap if you do it right. It's basically just talking on the street.
/r/seduction01/06/11 01:24 PM
1

Being a wingman is pretty simple: you're there to provide social proof & value to the guy you're winging. DHV him, show that you trust him, etc. It's that simple. :)
/r/seduction31/05/11 01:21 PM
2

Hm, perhaps this is a good way to start an Amsterdam Seddit-lair... :)
/r/seduction31/05/11 11:48 AM
1

Started in R&R, moved on to the Waterhole, then to a dance pub next to it (I think Mokum), followed by The Minds. Hope ya know those places! :D
/r/seduction30/05/11 06:43 PM
1

While this may be pre-selection, as ThrowawayPUA claims, I'd like you guys to remember what it can generally mean to a girl - "I am not interested in you". So unless you want to send out a lack of interest in the girl (and no, always being disinterested doesn't work. You need to show SOME interest without being needy), I'd recommend using the sentence "I'm open for a relationship, but only with the right person".
/r/seduction30/05/11 02:41 PM
2

Yeah, we wrote this together. When we go back to bar 1, it's me again. EDIT: actually, I'm writing from this part: Dorman got only a #-close (Dorman is sadface here :< ) from his target. Should have isolated.
/r/seduction30/05/11 01:09 PM
5

Going to join the other two commentators here - you're not squandering. You're going after what you want to get. Go for it.
/r/seduction27/05/11 11:00 AM
2

Okay, being a foreigner doesn't matter one little bit. Hell, in your case, as you speak the language, you have a DHV! Hell, I'm also a foreigner, and I don't speak the local language (leaving in a month or so, though), and I get around fine just using English. When people ask you where you're from, have them guess! Make it into a game! Your biggest problem is your mental image of yourself and lack of self-confident.
/r/seduction27/05/11 08:15 AM
1

Okay, I'm going to address mostly your first point, being alpha, as that seems the most important one to me: What are the characteristics of the alpha male? It's not necessarily being a douchebag - it's about being a fucking MAN. Most of those assholes who get girls get them not because women want to be treated poorly, but because they have testosterone. They are men. However, it's perfectly possible to be alpha and also be nice (a.k.a. the good guy). In my opinion, these are the characteristics…
/r/seduction27/05/11 07:55 AM
0

I should be getting a new computer pretty soon, I'll look into using the old one as an IRC server.
/r/seduction27/05/11 07:38 AM
2

This. Read what most girls look for on their OKCupid - a FUN guy. Women are looking for a guy who is both mature AND fun.
/r/seduction26/05/11 02:07 PM
3

Kino is used in order to get the girl used to your touch and make her comfortable with you. Of course, the amount of kino is different per girl, but it's a HUGE attraction builder when done right.
/r/seduction26/05/11 01:57 PM
5

You've built no attraction. You've got literally zero kino in that report. No disrespect, but it's no wonder the girl left you like that. Read the IOIs - you seemed to be just doing your own thing, rather than seeing how she reacts and reacting to that in the required way. PUA isn't just routines, PUA is about social interaction between human beings. I also recommend you work on your inner game to increase your confidence in order to kino. So work on your kino, inner game and please, PLEASE, rea…
/r/seduction26/05/11 01:47 PM
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Okay, you've pretty much got your AA under control. That's already a great start. You need to understand the four levels a PUA's conversation with a target goes through: Open Attract Comfort Seduce/close Which one of those do you think is currently your sticking point? Do you receive IOI's from the women? Do you ask for their number and get rejected, or do you not even ask for it? We need a bit more of an understanding of what you're doing (rather than a picture of yourself) in order to give you…
/r/seduction26/05/11 01:20 PM
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Hmm, I've studied a bit about speeches before, I'll give you guys a post about it some time soon.
/r/seduction26/05/11 07:54 AM
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Hey ptree, glad to see you outside of r/Israel, as well! :D That being said, I see the idea behind your sentence - put the women in the friend zone. Women want to be wanted. Therefore, by putting them in the friend zone, you deny them the being wanted, though they still want it, and will try to make you want them. Very simple, though it takes a while to practice. :)
/r/seduction26/05/11 07:00 AM
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This seems more an r/AskSeddit question to me.
/r/seduction25/05/11 09:32 AM
1

Did you try using the conversation guide link on the sidebar?
/r/seduction25/05/11 09:04 AM
2

Thanks for your insight here - it's really nice seeing such a different perspective to what most non-Sedditors think of the entire PUA-theme. Out of pure curiosity, which do you find more fun - letting the guy control the frame, or you trying to change it constantly?
/r/seduction25/05/11 09:03 AM
1

This looks like a classic case of LMR - Last Minute Resistance. The girl does it in order to not feel like a slut, basically. The best way to deal with that is to make it seem like she is chasing you. E.g. - when things are getting steamy between you two while making out, say something like "You know I'm not going to sleep with you, I'm not that easy."
/r/seduction24/05/11 11:17 AM
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"If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
/r/seduction24/05/11 05:31 AM
2

Being a saxophone player, myself, I know what you mean. I found that there's a way to DHV yourself towards everyone - just go out and play somewhere. If it's a pub with a piano, a jam session, whatever. Just play. When people ask you what you do, don't say "I play the piano." That's just four words for something that is far more. Instead, try this storytelling formula I've read: When I was little, I really liked X When I was a teenager, Y happened Now I am Z, and I prove that you can chase your …
/r/seduction24/05/11 05:30 AM
2

No problem. Kezia gives a far better explanation of it than I could, though, here's the playlist of the bitch shields video.
/r/seduction24/05/11 05:27 AM
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If that's what you want, then I'll leave it at that. :)
/r/seduction23/05/11 08:26 PM
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It's a real shame you deleted your post, mate. I wanted to read it all, but I didn't have the time to before it was deleted. From what I did read, you were right on the money - real resistance is bad. Very bad. Real resistance means stop right now. Will you be willing to repost? :)
/r/seduction23/05/11 01:52 PM
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Kezia has a great bitch shield (that is what it is) formula: Approve - you need to show the girl that you can take what she throws at you, and that you like it. "Yes, finally, a woman with some character to her! Give me a real woman who has the balls to stand up to me any day!". A woman will throw up this kind of a bitch shield to show that she can make the guy squirm. Throw a spanner in the works - say something COMPLETELY random and unexpected. "I actually approached you because you looked les…
/r/seduction23/05/11 09:20 AM
1

Awesome. Sex is sex, basically. I had sex with a 25 years-old when I was 19.
/r/seduction22/05/11 09:28 PM
1

It's exactly what is sounds like - always assume attraction until told otherwise. Next time, try posting these questions to r/askseddit and r/highseddit. r/askseddit is the seduction subreddit for these kinds of questions. r/highseddit is for seduction in high school.
/r/seduction21/05/11 08:41 PM
2

The Book of Pook is a must-read, indeed. However, do bare in mind that this is less of a book and more a collection of the lamentations of an overly-dramatic forum poster, who becomes a bit misogynistic towards the end. Keep that in mind while reading the book (and yes, I've read it all).
/r/seduction21/05/11 04:33 PM
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I'd recommend getting her attention through a hand on her shoulder, she'll probably turn around, and you can use that (while smiling, though, you need to look like you're having fun) moment to pull her closer and run whatever dance routine you're using. EDIT: I am, by no means, an expert. There's a link in the sidebar about dancing, though.
/r/seduction20/05/11 01:41 PM
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Okay, whatever you do, DO NOT SEND THAT KIND OF A TEXT MESSAGE. No, seriously. Did that two days ago. Fucked me up real bad (read my posted [Frustration Report]). Just text her. Make sure that the text conveys some emotions. The sidebar has a text/phone game guide. You can also use this book for further insights into text game. Also, you didn't answer my first question - did something happen between you two during that last date?
/r/seduction20/05/11 01:39 PM
1

Try sending her one text message. If she won't respond, I'm afraid she really isn't interested. Also, remember this - women want men to lead in the interaction. It's hard-wired into their subconsciousness. They might claim otherwise, but a dominant and leading man is what turns them on. You said that she liked you, and you liked her. Did anything happen between you two during the date?
/r/seduction20/05/11 12:52 PM
1

Hasty generalization much, 14 hours old troll account?
/r/seduction20/05/11 11:42 AM
1

I'm glad you had fun, mate! This is something that I find many beginner PUAs do not understand - it's important to concentrate on having fun, no matter how many closes you plan on having. Also, I posted a question for you before, but I guess you didn't see it - you thinking of coming to Amsterdam to try and game here? I find it a fairly challenging city to sarge in, to be honest. Cheers, man!
/r/seduction20/05/11 08:52 AM
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Yeah, even if she acts like a tomboy, a woman is a woman. The techniques used by PUAs have worked for - literally - tens of thousands of years. No reason for it not to work on her. She's just another lady. Go for it. :)
/r/seduction20/05/11 08:46 AM
1

Same line, over and over again: always assume attraction. Go for it.
/r/seduction20/05/11 07:28 AM
3

Always assume attraction. Also r/askseddit and r/highseddit.
/r/seduction20/05/11 07:26 AM
2

These kind of things relate to storytelling, in my opinion. Make it interesting, here's a method I read: HB: so, what do you do? You: Well, when I was a kid, I really liked X. When I was in high school, Y happened and I was really into Y / X2 / whatever. And now I'm doing Z, and I'm living proof you can at least chase your dreams!
/r/seduction20/05/11 07:14 AM
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Make sure that you have fun. It doesn't matter whether you do or don't k/f-close a girl that very same night. If you're there, having a good time, displaying social proof and all, you're on the good way.
/r/seduction20/05/11 07:12 AM
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There, THIS is the kind of response I was looking for! Some actual feedback! :D <3
/r/seduction19/05/11 09:20 PM
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Glad to be of service. Also, sometimes, the most obvious things are right under our noses. tips top hat
/r/seduction19/05/11 12:09 PM
1

Quoth Robert Burton: "They are proud in humility, proud that they are not proud."
/r/seduction19/05/11 12:04 PM
1

Go out there. Approach women. Get rejected. Reflect. Approach more women. Get rejected some times. Reflect. Approach women. Barely get rejected. Still reflect. Continue approaching women.
/r/seduction19/05/11 12:00 PM
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lol, yeah, I know, I decided to next her already on the train back to Brussels. I was just wondering whether there was anything I did wrong that you guys can point out, now that the entire interaction is there on the field. Also, I didn't (though I've been to the city before for a school project), as I didn't want to stick around that city's area any more. Just felt like "Meh, fuck it, I'm going home."
/r/seduction19/05/11 11:51 AM
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Well, remember that body language tells you a lot more than words ever will. You can apply this push-pull technique to basically any part of her body, as long as you do it gently (for example, pushing her away gently by the shoulder). The push should not be interpreted as "Get the hell away from me, you suck, I don't want to see you any more", but rather as something you didn't even notice. Believe me, the girl will notice it. Also, if you're interested in this kind of body language theme, watch…
/r/seduction19/05/11 11:49 AM
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Just my opinion, I am by no means an expert (still learning), but I'd recommend you try some push-pull techniques on her. See how that works. For example - when you hold her hand and feel her kind of shying away, throw her hand out in a gentle fashion, as if it's YOU saying "I'm not interested" and continue with the conversation, go for body contact again, rinse and repeat.
/r/seduction19/05/11 11:24 AM
1

Testosterone and acceptance thereof.
/r/seduction19/05/11 08:51 AM
1

Read the sidebar, especially about inner game.
/r/seduction19/05/11 08:49 AM
1

Well, I could be wrong, but as I understand it the idea behind a FR is just that. Learning. You are exactly on the ball here. Even if I had a fucking horrible night with no closes and every woman out there blows me out of the water, I still write a FR about it. That's the point. It gives you a point of reference, a way for people to tell you what you did wrong and right. And also a way to look at your own personal development over the course of time. Now, you got generally good skills, but I don…
/r/seduction19/05/11 08:48 AM
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22/M here. I would argue that the second decade of my life was what changed me the most - I moved out of Israel to the Netherlands when I was 13, nearly 14. Needless to say, I could not speak Dutch and Hebrew is not that common a language in the Netherlands. I had to resort to my very limited English and Hebrew with the Israelis in my school (Jewish high school). With my inability to effectively communicate with a large part of the school, I became more or less a loner. Language barriers are a b…
/r/seduction19/05/11 08:44 AM
2

5 approaches? Is that all. Get back out there and keep approaching. Don't ask them for their phone number - tell them to give you their phone number. You are the selector.
/r/seduction19/05/11 07:23 AM
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Call her, but not immediately. Wait a day, MAYBE two, but that's all.
/r/seduction19/05/11 07:07 AM
2

One of my favourite facial expressions is raising one eyebrow - as a neg. You just look at the girl with a look that says "Seriously? Haha!" and still leave her lots of room to manoeuvre. As for smiles - try walking around with a tiny half-smile. I found that this does wonders to my confidence. Just smile from one corner of your mouth. Could be just me, though.
/r/seduction18/05/11 08:47 AM
1

klinkt goed, ik zal alweer in Amsterdam wonen vanaf mid-juli. Stuur me je mobiele nummer per PM, dan kunnen jij, burpee en ik samen een keertje uithangen.
/r/seduction18/05/11 08:30 AM
1

Best way is to start talking about commonalities, in my opinion. It's one of the best ways to establish rapport. You know the girl is attracted to you, so you need to establish some comfort - but don't overdo it. If you establish too much comfort, you get Friend-Zoned. Also, welcome to Seddit. Read the sidebar.
/r/seduction18/05/11 08:23 AM
1

I listen to mostly battle metal, melodic metal, jazz, a bit of swing, dubstep and DnB/techno... Damn, that's a lot of genres.
/r/seduction18/05/11 08:19 AM
2

As Style said in The Game: just say "Thanks" like you get it all the time. That's the most self-confident thing to do.
/r/seduction17/05/11 09:40 PM
3

There's a reason it's called play-wrestling. It's a game. It's not serious. Don't do piledrivers or any special techniques from TV, those are already overkill. Do something simple, like pinning their wrist down on the couch (HUGE turn-on for girls, by the way). Be dominant, not harmful.
/r/seduction17/05/11 02:42 PM
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I was basically saying "My time is precious, I am coming to meet you, don't make me waste my time." Might've been a bit overkill, though. :/
/r/seduction17/05/11 02:18 PM
2

Cheers, man!
/r/seduction17/05/11 02:17 PM
1

First, I recommend asking r/AskSeddit. Second, do whatever fits you best. If she makes excuses, next her. You decide on the framework.
/r/seduction17/05/11 01:52 PM
2

Are you the guy who tells the jokes and gets the girls? Nope. There's your answer. Keep on exercising, I know I need to (but hell, I'm leaving this country in a month or two). Keep on doing what makes you feel good - but remember: you want to be the one that women want. This is mostly a mentality thing. Keep on reading the inner game stuff, and do it.
/r/seduction17/05/11 12:34 PM
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Yes, you need to live for the moment quite a bit more. Also, travelling is one of the best ways to improve your social skills. So, yes, start there. You're going to meet many people. You will create connections. But make sure that you're not that guy, who sits in the corner and read his book during the entire bus ride/flight/whatever. Be pro-active. Odds are you won't see those who rejected you in the future, anyway.
/r/seduction17/05/11 12:22 PM
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I spend too long contemplating and then it becomes too late. You took the words right out of my mouth. You think too much before acting. If you want to do something (unless it's something like jumping off of a building), go for it. Women like adventurous guys. How many times did you think "Why is that hot girl there with such an idiot?" That's because women don't fall for stable intellectuals. They fall for adventurous types. Also, your lack of self-confidence with women is part of your personal…
/r/seduction17/05/11 12:11 PM
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Here's something - the wrists, while being very delicate (you can move the entire body through the wrist, as well), can be also used very well for playfighting (e.g. pinning the wrists on the couch). Just remember - this is play-wrestling. Not the WWE or an MMA-class. I also recommend you post this to r/AskSeddit. EDIT: pinning her down by the wrists is also great for sexual escalation. ;)
/r/seduction17/05/11 12:04 PM
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Okay, let's see. You're afraid of rejection by girls. If you don't try, you rejected yourself. Decide for yourself which one is worse. Let's see how you describe yourself: I'm a confident person and I am a member of my University's Debate society, where I can comfortably speak in front of 50-60 people. But women are my weakness. I am popular, confident and reasonably intelligent I just can't "do" girls (in both senses of the world) and for twenty years I want to know why everyone else can but I …
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:59 AM
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What makes you think that getting a girlfriend will change anything? You will lose your virginity. So what? But I'm not here to judge. Pardon me. This is clear inner game & Approach Anxiety (AA) that you've got here. You see that sidebar? Read it. Read the posts there. TofuTofu made a huge inner game guide. Now, let me tell you - this is not going to be easy. At times, you will hate us. At times, you will try to defy our advice. And there is nothing we could do about it. This is you. Only you ca…
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:47 AM
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What you've got here, my good man, is what we call oneitis. Read more here. I've been in somewhat the same situation as you. Not exactly the same, but close. It was with a friend of mine at a youth movement - really liked the girl. There was a one-month trip, and she said that if I won't come, she won't, either. I took that as a HUGE sign that she likes me. I tell her I like her. She says she doesn't. In the middle of the fucking trip. Now, you listen up, and you listen up good. What you are goi…
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:35 AM
2

... /facepalm Pardon my fail.
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:01 AM
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The Book of Pook is a very interesting book, indeed. The style of writing is very different, but it hits the basic points dead-centre. It's got the tone of the lamentations of a madman to it, though.
/r/seduction17/05/11 09:28 AM
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It's meant more in a 'casual kiss' way, really. Some people give it too much meaning, I just use it whenever the other one uses it. Some people find it awkward to use, some don't. I don't think about it too much. :P
/r/seduction17/05/11 09:27 AM
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Where are the instructions on how to connect to it?
/r/seduction17/05/11 09:22 AM
1

The x's in the end of the lines are something pretty common in the Netherlands/Belgium. Basically a way to say 'end of message' in a friendly way. Smiley faces overload noted down.
/r/seduction17/05/11 09:20 AM
3

Wait, there's a Seddit IRC? :O
/r/seduction17/05/11 08:39 AM
2

You know, this reminds me of a video I saw, don't remember from who, but it made sense. There are three kinds of guys: Bad boy: think Scarface. He's out to do his own thing, and doesn't give a shit what you think about it. Objectifies women, out for pleasure NOW, etc. Scarface and/or Jersey-Shore types. Usually attracts women who are out for a quick fuck or are broken. Good guy: the guy who's genuinely a good guy, and is the selector. He's high-value, and he knows it. Can't really think of any c…
/r/seduction17/05/11 08:37 AM
2

Try posting this to r/askseddit.
/r/seduction17/05/11 08:19 AM
1

I've got an idea, but this isn't field-tested: Try an Eskimo kiss, should make the girl all giggly and what not, then go in for the full kiss. Again, never field-tested.
/r/seduction16/05/11 08:59 AM
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Okay, I have one piece of advice for you: Don't. Let. Anything. Stop. You. I emigrated out of my home country to Europe when I was thirteen, nearly fourteen. I had a huge language barrier. It caused my self-confidence to sink to lows you do not think exist. I got out of it, however, and I see how much it hurt me. Don't let anything stop you from going out there and making those mistakes. That's actually more of a general life advice than a seduction/PUA advice, but I find that the border between…
/r/seduction16/05/11 08:57 AM
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This reminds me of something I've read, don't remember where. You just laugh, and then turn serious all of a sudden and tell him "Fuck you and your [enter tiny detail here, for example eyebrows]. Doesn't he have [enter negative adjective for AMOG here, e.g. feminine] [detail, e.g. eyebrows]?" This should make the AMOG freak out and go all like "No, my eyebrows aren't feminine!". Never tried it out, just read about it. EDIT: I also remember another thing I've read - say "Sorry, what did you say?"…
/r/seduction16/05/11 08:45 AM
1

Well, sent a text message today, waiting for a reply.
/r/seduction15/05/11 03:41 PM
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'beta phaggot', you say from your computer, while I am the one who's in the field and actually testing it. <3
/r/seduction15/05/11 03:40 PM
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meta or not, if it works, who cares?
/r/seduction15/05/11 09:45 AM
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You know, mate, I had this problem, and still do some times. I found one opener I really like: stand up, stand in front of her (unless she's sitting next to you ofc.) and say "Hey, I got a question for ya - I saw you and I wanted to talk to you, but I have no idea where to start. So, tell me, what should I talk with you about?" Pretty much leaves you with a lot of room for navigation, even if she doesn't know, you can say "Well, what brings you to this store/city/whatever?"
/r/seduction14/05/11 10:14 PM
1

is goed kerel, stuur mij maar je mobiele nummer per PM, ik geef je wel een belletje - ik ben alleen maar eens om de 2 weken in Amsterdam wegens mijn stage in het buitenland.
/r/seduction14/05/11 07:21 PM
1

That's hardly the point. The point is - keep on approaching women. Don't stop till you truly make it.
/r/seduction12/05/11 12:17 PM
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You know, Tofu, this makes me think - have you ever considered coming to sarge in Amsterdam? It is actually a fairly challenging area (lots of alphas all around), and I think that you'd like it.
/r/seduction12/05/11 10:02 AM
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Dude, don't wonder. Just fucking go for it.
/r/seduction12/05/11 09:57 AM
1

Bad boy - think Scarface. What did Scarface do? He fucked shit up. And got laid. Period. Nice guy - I prefer calling this the "good guy", actually. The guy who is genuinely nice, rather than the "nice guy", which hints at AFC-like behaviour. In this case, remember, you are the prize. Women want you, because you are so God damned awesome. And you really are. Leader: my favourite example of this is the infamous Sir Winston Churchill. Look at his quotes. Look at how he behaved. He basically said "Y…
/r/seduction12/05/11 09:55 AM
1

I think that this is exaggerating, to be honest. When push comes to shove, women are turned on by the alpha man. It's been the case for literally tens of thousands of years. It ain't gonna change.
/r/seduction12/05/11 09:49 AM
1

Here's a routine I like to use during awkward silences: You: Great, big, polar bear! [point behind girl, try to put on a look of surprise/horror/whatever] She: blah/what/where/nothing there... You: It's a great ice-breaker, isn't it? Other than that, keep on going out and approaching girls... I know I need to do it more often (damn you AA, DAMN YOU!).
/r/seduction12/05/11 08:57 AM
1

rimshot
/r/seduction12/05/11 05:46 AM
1

Yeah, it looks like it.
/r/seduction11/05/11 02:04 PM
1

Yes, cute and all, yadda yadda yadda. More importantly - have you field-tested it? Until you field-test this opener, it's got no solid ground in any way, shape or form.
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:02 AM
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This happened before I found Seddit. This October, I was on an Erasmus party with my classmates. Called Brussels-Mania. A HB7 approaches one of my friends, and asks him something about me in French. He looks at me and whispers to me "Dude, she's into you!" HUGE confidence boost there. I tell her to come with me so we can talk... turns out she cannot talk English. Only Spanish and French. I use some heavy kino on her as she tries to find her words in English, lean in for the kiss, f-close. In hin…
/r/seduction11/05/11 10:43 AM
1

As TofuTofu said, you need confidence. This isn't about acting in a confident way - you need to be confident that any woman your path may cross will be improved by merely interacting with you for a short while. Now, you fear rejection. There is a saying in Dutch: "If you don't shoot, you will surely miss." This means that if you shoot, even blindly, you could miss, but you can also hit. Get that into your head - you need to go out there, and try, try again, and try some more. And even try more. …
/r/seduction11/05/11 09:59 AM
1

Hmm, I'm leaving Belgium in a bit more than a month... note to self: get some number closes. Quickly.
/r/seduction11/05/11 09:46 AM
2

Ah, yeah, sorry about the mistake there, thanks for the correction!
/r/seduction11/05/11 09:38 AM
1

This is something I can only partially agree with you - while this is not the Bible of kino, as you put it, I don't think there is any kind of "ultimate" kino method. However, I do believe that this video is a good place to start for many Sedditors.
/r/seduction11/05/11 09:30 AM
1

Brussels: kind of a lot of AFCs all over the place. Not too much competition. Pubs are good, clubs are meh. Amsterdam: Jesus Christ, the competition in Amsterdam is just un-fucking-believable. There's no other way to describe it, really. So many tourists around, so a lot of alphas.
/r/seduction10/05/11 11:22 PM
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If you can find a way to do so without it affecting your behaviour (thus game), yes. :P
/r/seduction10/05/11 11:20 PM
1

Kind of unemployed here, as well. Doing an unpaid internship. But you know what? I still go out, I still game (not as much as I'd like to. Thank you, AA. Working on it). You need to go outside of your comfort zone. Being unemployed means that you have lots of free time. You can go out, find something like a watering job (it's nearly summertime, which is tourist time and thus waiters' time) and start gaming in your free time.
/r/seduction10/05/11 09:25 PM
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First, thanks for the correction, mate. This is mostly stuff that I've written off the top of my head, so I could remember things in a wrong way. However, I'd like to stress out one main point - open arms, expose your vitals. Shows confidence.
/r/seduction10/05/11 09:21 PM
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I found this series of kino escalation guide to be very informative and very helpful. No disrespect, but the comparison there to touching women as in touching a horse is a very helpful one - start with short touches, and slowly escalate their length and areas. Of course, that is assuming that you don't fuck things up by saying some stupid shit during the set.
/r/seduction10/05/11 09:16 PM
1

This is, in my opinion, a good position while listening. Don't use it while speaking, though. Through body language, you want to communicate two things: you know how to talk, and you know how to listen. If you listen and have the body language of one who is talking, you come off as a weirdo who always wants the stage. If you're talking with the body language of listening, you come off as an antisocial weirdo. Of course, just standing like that is good - I actually tried that, and it's also a nic…
/r/seduction10/05/11 07:59 PM
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Yup, also works. My main point in my article is this - if you expose your vulnerable areas and show that you do not defend yourself using your hands, your body language is good. The rest is just details.
/r/seduction10/05/11 08:18 AM
1

This would make interesting research material.
/r/seduction10/05/11 07:30 AM
3

Note to self: troll ThrowawayPUA with steampunk stuff. :P
/r/seduction10/05/11 07:23 AM
1

Care to elaborate?
/r/seduction10/05/11 07:18 AM
1

Why do I suddenly start to imagine steampunk visit cards?
/r/seduction10/05/11 07:18 AM
1

Aye, true. Makes you wonder why women would be attracted to that, huh? ;)
/r/seduction10/05/11 07:16 AM
2

If that works for you then, by all means, do it!
/r/seduction09/05/11 11:35 PM
0

Could be wrong on the matter. I mostly wrote down all I remembered from the various books I read.
/r/seduction09/05/11 11:16 PM
1

That is also possible, indeed. tips hat
/r/seduction09/05/11 06:28 PM
2

It can, if the rest of your body shows a lack of confidence. If you tuck your thumbs in, but still stand with a straight back and a somewhat swollen chest, you will still look confident. Always try to have a semi-smile on your face, as well, to show people you're in a good mood. This is highly contagious, a.k.a. empathy.
/r/seduction09/05/11 06:27 PM
1

This. Really. For example, during my last field report, when I reported a #-close, the girl actually flaked me, despite me doing basically everything really good. Sometimes, it's just bad luck.
/r/seduction09/05/11 05:24 PM
1

Well, when not talking, putting only your thumbs in your pockets is actually not a bad idea - it leaves the rest of your hands out there, and also pointing at your crotch, kind of telegraphing to the girl what you want. ;) Of course, if there's enough attraction, you can wrap your arms around the girl. :D
/r/seduction09/05/11 05:22 PM
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Yup. You fucked up here. Big time. BUT - The most important thing is that you learn from it. You seem to have problems with your self-esteem. Well, guess what? We all do. Every. Single. Person. On. This. Planet. You know, before I got into the game, I used to date a girl like you - bipolar, that is - absolutely abysmal when off the meds. No, really. It's a pain in the arse. I highly recommend you return to takings your medication. But enough of my small lecture here. I'm happy you decided to wri…
/r/seduction09/05/11 02:40 PM
2

Israeli here, moved to the Netherlands nearly nine years ago, now an exchange student in Belgium. Doing my internship in a huge American corporation, Corporate Affairs department (means I am very much concerned with its reputation and stuff). My day is very interesting, even though I'm in the office all day long, though these hours (I usually start on 08:30 and end on roughly 17:30) can be quite a bitch. I want to finish this year and get my Bachelor's Degree in the Netherlands next year. And ha…
/r/seduction09/05/11 02:31 PM
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I'm happy you are such a quick learner. As for me, I have always had problems with kino. Never quite understood why - it should not be in my culture in any way, shape or form (we Israelis are generally very touchy-feely). But don't let me ruin your moment - enjoy it!
/r/seduction09/05/11 12:49 PM
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Lots of experience in that field. First thing first - watch where the feet are pointing. This is a big IOI if pointing your way. Notice how the hands are - crossed arms = defensive or relaxing (depending on how low the shoulders are. The lower the shoulders, the more relaxed the conversation partner is). When your partner is smiling and/or laughing, pay close attention to the eyes. Real laughter and smiles include all of the face, rather than just the mouth. Think on it on an animalistic sense -…
/r/seduction09/05/11 09:43 AM
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First time I hear of it. However, form what a little bit of research can show you, this is very specific for college and stuff. I recommend you get the basics down before you specialize, a.k.a. build confidence, learn how to improve your body language and posture (very important imo), etc. Once you get the basics down, then you can go and specialize.
/r/seduction09/05/11 08:27 AM
1

In my opinion, talking about people in a matter-of-fact way is a great way to get into the FZ. It's comfort before attraction.
/r/seduction09/05/11 07:46 AM
1

This is, oddly enough, socially acceptable (guys always kiss each other on the cheek here) in Belgium. Go figure.
/r/seduction09/05/11 07:43 AM
4

Sir Winston Churchill. Can't get much more alpha than that imo.
/r/seduction08/05/11 10:00 AM
1

Your dancing line is wrong IMO. People respond to people having fun and not giving a fuck what people think of you. Just go nuts on the dance floor sometime. That is true, you need to show you are having fun, but (and this is a rather large but) when you are dancing with a girl, before you pull her towards you, you need to keep things simple. Get the basic movements down before you do fancy stuff. "WAIT. STOP. This is like first date talk. Let's do something more exciting. Come with me, we're go…
/r/seduction08/05/11 09:33 AM
1

It is okay to talk about other people - but only if you want to influence the girl's opinion on the matter. Forbidden Patterns has a few routines that will cause a girl, if done correctly, to mistrust her (boy)friend. Note - these routines, unlike most PUA routines, concentrate on negative feelings.
/r/seduction08/05/11 09:28 AM
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Glad to be of service. :)
/r/seduction08/05/11 02:43 AM
2

Even if they do, I don't care.
/r/seduction08/05/11 02:42 AM
1

Updated.
/r/seduction07/05/11 12:21 PM
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Updated.
/r/seduction07/05/11 12:20 PM
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I see the mistake I made in the FR there. I'll fix it tomorrow. Need some sleep.
/r/seduction07/05/11 02:59 AM
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You forget to mention one thing - one of the key symptoms of someone being a weak guy is that the person is being too nice of a guy to stand up for himself. We never tell people here in Seddit to be mean, but to be confident.
/r/seduction06/05/11 02:03 PM
1

There are no golden rules on qualification. If the girl behaves in the way you want her to, award her. If she does something you don't want her to do, punish her.
/r/seduction06/05/11 12:53 PM
2

Go for whichever you want.
/r/seduction06/05/11 12:50 PM
1

Uh, yeah, dude? Cut the attitude, seriously. When you post FRs, you ask for feedback. That's their purpose. Take it or leave it, but don't be condescending to your peers.
/r/seduction06/05/11 12:16 PM
2

Would you say it's good to apply to this technique, but to make sure your statements and questions elicit emotion? I could not have said it better, myself.
/r/seduction06/05/11 12:14 PM
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Here's something about conversations for you: statement & question. This is a golden rule that will build you lots of rapport. For example: Her: I like dogs. him: That's awesome! I used to have a dog, myself. It was practically a human being. What kind of dogs do you like? Her: My dog was a [enter race here] Him: I don't think I've heard of that kind, how does it look like? / Oh, you had one of those! [race] is a pretty nice breed, indeed! What's your fondest memory of your time with that dog? R…
/r/seduction06/05/11 12:02 PM
1

Don't settle. Go for the 7.
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:49 AM
3

Another myth: PUA is only for men. Reality: PUA information and techniques can be used by anyone in a social situation.
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:40 AM
0

If you plan on gaming, you can have 1 beer or so, but don't get drunk. It ruins your game. Believe me on that.
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:36 AM
1

I'd like to refer to something that TofuTofu (I think he did, don't remember exactly) said (going to quote what I remember): The reason people think they get the hot chicks in Japan, is because they are used to such low levels in their own home countries. So, the chicks they are picking up are HB7 and above by their status, while they are picking HB4-HB5 by our own status.
/r/seduction06/05/11 08:51 AM
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Incorrect. I am of a very uncommon nationality here, in Europe, and that is absolutely not the case. It makes you a higher value male, yes, but it has no effect on how attractive you are. And as we know, if there is more value than attraction, it become LJBF.
/r/seduction06/05/11 08:48 AM
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I get back with the girl I danced with. We go to the bar. I tell her I'm paying this time, but she gets the next one. Good. You nearly screwed it up there. Also, why the hell didn't you take her to your place?
/r/seduction06/05/11 08:46 AM
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TofuTofu™: your supplier of awesome tips™.
/r/seduction06/05/11 08:41 AM
1

It depends - if you hook up with one of them right in front of the other HBs' eyes, you can usually forget about the other two. "Ugh, I can't believe he made out with her! Hey, you, come here!" /female bitchy voice. If you can do it in a way that the other two cannot notice, go for it. Also, don't get drunk. Alcohol can help AA, but it ruins your social skills.
/r/seduction06/05/11 08:38 AM
2

Buying a woman a drink - or any present - is completely irrelevant of your success. It has been established that roughly 80% of what a person - man or a woman - thinks of you is the first impression. It takes less than 4 seconds for a person to know whether they like you or not. 90% of those 4 seconds is body language. Now, let's say that a girl sees you while you're picking your nose, scratching your junk, whatever. You then make eye contact. Awkward. You go to her, and ask her whether you can …
/r/seduction06/05/11 08:33 AM
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Look, it's obvious that you did not get the kind of advice you were hoping to get in r/seduction. I recommend you go to r/relationships, where you might feel more at home. Remember, here in Seddit, we believer that you - the man - are the one in charge. You do not buy the girl stuff unless she deserved it. Not even a drink. She needs to want you at least as much as you want her, if not more. If that is not the case, it is not what we, in Seddit, will call a healthy relationship.
/r/seduction06/05/11 08:29 AM
1

You know, I met up with the admin of the "official" layer of where I live in. He told me something yesterday: "You're a pretty direct guy, but it's better being too direct than not direct enough".
/r/seduction06/05/11 08:15 AM
1

If you live in a big city, there should be a (normal) lair there. Find it. Then get off of the computer, go game, post FRs here and wherever else, improve.
/r/seduction06/05/11 07:47 AM
1

Dude. 90% of PUA is pretty much inner game. I'll ask you a simple question: How many hot girls do you see dating average-to-below-average-looking-guys? Kind of a lot, actually. I've also got a physical disorder with my muscles (hypotonia, located in my arms [mostly hands], causing them to be hyper-flexible and whatnot), but the thing is to use it to your advantage! I should tell the girls 'Well, I got some pretty flexible fingers.' and show 'em how far my fingers can bend. Whoa, I gotta try that…
/r/seduction06/05/11 07:46 AM
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Sounds like a LMR problem to me. Next time you make out with her and things become steamy, whisper in her ear "I'm not going to have sex with you, y'know, I'm not that easy." That should get her pretty much craving for your dick.
/r/seduction06/05/11 05:01 AM
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Not like I have much of a choice - the place is closed until September, and I'll be out of Belgium by then, so I have to find a better jam session. And for those wondering - no, I won't give up on the saxophone. :D
/r/seduction05/05/11 01:48 PM
3

You know what it was? The girl says some snarky comment so I give her a bit of a push (modified PPP). She overreacts and bumps the table and sends my beer flying everywhere (mostly on Naga14). We rush to clean it up and I tease the hell out of her for it. How would you tease a girl for that? "Man, you're so clumsy!"? Just wondering.
/r/seduction05/05/11 09:46 AM
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Thanks for the advice people. Off to the jam session now! :D
/r/seduction04/05/11 06:08 PM
2

I recommend you post this to r/askseddit, as well. EDIT: Never mind, you already did. :D
/r/seduction04/05/11 12:52 PM
1

Neil Strauss doesn't post in the forums any more. He's got the StyleLife challenge, but that's basically it.
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:12 AM
2

Eye contact is seen as something that is generally intimate and/or a sign of attraction. Your eyes met, but you made no move (note that the eye contact persisted for just a few seconds, probably 3 as per Mystery's 3 second rule). On a subconscious level, it told the girl "He saw me, I showed interest (IOI), he did not move towards me or do anything." Disappointment/embarrassment ensues. Remember, this is all subconscious, and I could also be wrong.
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:10 AM
3

HB8 knows I’m interested and in love with her Oh man, that's bad. Really bad. You basically gave the woman control. :/ However, it does seem like she's attracted to you (texted you telling you she thought of you at least 50 times today). I recommend you meet up with her when she's back, and just go for it.
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:08 AM
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I remember something that Mystery (I think it was him) said about small talk. Let's take the "should have studied more" example: 1 - Acknowledge. "Oh, man, that sucks!" 2 - Relate. "You know, I had this one exam a while back, I thought I was going to flunk the entire course. Lucky for me, the teacher made a mistake in some of the questions, so we got some extra points and I managed to pass the exam!" 3 - Inquire (preferably something related to feelings. Remember, women are more emotional than r…
/r/seduction04/05/11 09:21 AM
2

This is all-or-nothing in one sentence. It's not an opener, as ThrowAwayPUA said, it's a pick-up line. Those don't work.
/r/seduction04/05/11 09:16 AM
4

Sleep is just a poor replacement for caffeine. :P
/r/seduction04/05/11 09:03 AM
1

Piece of advice - don't talk to her a bit, become good friends, and then confess your unconditional love to her. Create. Attraction. Not. Friendship.
/r/seduction04/05/11 09:00 AM
0

You heard the Seddit Hivemind. Naked man. Five FR's of that.
/r/seduction03/05/11 12:14 PM
0

Walk up to a girl, say "Great, big, polar bear." "What?" "Great ice breaker, isn't it?"
/r/seduction03/05/11 12:11 PM
1

I'm going to have to disagree with all but your first point here, though I appreciate your feedback. Your first point makes a lot of sense, yeah. I tried to initiate attraction between us, but I suppose that why I'm a rAFC. I'm pretty sure she's not seeing anyone. Of course, she could be having a FB I ain't aware of. Then again, I don't care - if she wants to meet me, alone, then she's at least somewhat interested. About your third point - that's the thing, I am familiar with Utrecht, I lived th…
/r/seduction02/05/11 12:55 PM
1

This sounds like... yeah, just tough luck, dude. You were practically inches away from closing the set. :/
/r/seduction02/05/11 08:24 AM
3

I agree with what you say only to a limited degree. Some people do not have that confidence that other people do - I know I didn't have it in the past - and this subreddit helps them build it up, starting with 'canned' techniques until they understand true confidence and whatnot. Just my opinion - this reddit isn't the full solution, but it gives you the way to find your own solution.
/r/seduction02/05/11 08:09 AM
2

Yup. Kino is extremely important. Hell, it got me a ONS with a girl who spoke no English, only French and Spanish. Good kino and you're gold. :D
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:34 AM
1

I think this is much like the "Hey, do you know where I can find some hot girls around here?", which is mostly for HB9~10-level, if I remember correctly. Still, good opener!
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:28 AM
2

I just wanted to make her day. Yes, man! That's the best attitude to have! Keep that mindset - you're here to have fun, and make people's day! That's like 80% of inner game, in my opinion.
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:26 AM
2

I recommend you look on this huge database of PUA-resources.
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:15 AM
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I recommend you look at this website. Loads of info.
/r/seduction29/04/11 12:47 PM
1

FZ is hardly ever a "for now" situation. Sorry. :/
/r/seduction29/04/11 08:44 AM
2

Buying a girl a drink, in my opinion, is basically "I want to buy your attraction". If the girl likes you, then you'll get the close, anyway. If she doesn't, you won't get the close, anyway. The drink is, literally, just a waste of money and can end up hurting you more than anything.
/r/seduction29/04/11 08:29 AM
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No problem mate, I'm glad to help you. Remember, always assume attraction. That's also a sign of an alpha male. Make jokes about her trying to seduce you - that will get you very far. Really, it will. I'd like to suggest you look at the thing I linked at my other comment, but in case you miss it somehow, here it is again. This is probably the largest database of PUA stuff I've ever run across.
/r/seduction28/04/11 02:06 PM
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Oh, in addition to my post here, here's some stuff that you will find very useful ;D
/r/seduction28/04/11 11:32 AM
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I see you following the same pattern, over and over again: Meet girl. Like girl. Impress girl. - Up to now, this is good. Your life is full with DHVs and the like which you can use, from your motorbike to your MMA skills. You are an extremely high-value male. Remember that. Now, after you impress the girl, that is where you screw up. For one, it seems like you ponder and think too much about the girl. Just fucking go for it. The Dutch have a saying: "If you don't shoot, you'll always miss". As I…
/r/seduction28/04/11 11:01 AM
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I think he's mainly referring to the sex drive that this may or may not increase.
/r/seduction28/04/11 09:39 AM
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We ain't chubby, we're cuddly! I am going to use that. :D
/r/seduction27/04/11 07:07 AM
1

Reading Forbidden Patterns. Just amazing routines there. EDIT: Okay, these books are just amazing. Read another one. Do you know if there's any way to download this entire database?
/r/seduction15/04/11 11:25 AM
1

I'd say you just move on and keep your composure.
/r/seduction15/04/11 08:07 AM
2

Hey, it works. U MAD?
/r/seduction14/04/11 08:39 AM
2

I think it's a mixture of both.
/r/seduction14/04/11 08:38 AM
1

Applause to you, my good man!
/r/seduction14/04/11 08:32 AM
2

Why would I break it? It's fun! :D
/r/seduction14/04/11 08:30 AM
1

Don't worry about it, mate. Sometimes, things just don't work like you expect them to. Movin' right along!
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:11 PM
2

Thanks for the suggestions. Reacted with a simple 'kk, have fun!', gonna basically forget about her from now on. Game on!
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:08 PM
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No. No. No. Do not do it.
/r/seduction13/04/11 12:56 PM
1

Relevant
/r/seduction13/04/11 12:28 PM
1

Then you just have to prove her wrong, don't ya?
/r/seduction12/04/11 11:50 AM
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Never marry a woman unless she loves you more than you love her. Yes, yes, YES! Complete truth! :D Saved. :)
/r/seduction12/04/11 09:53 AM
1

[enter "an offer you cannot refuse"-like reference here]
/r/seduction12/04/11 07:11 AM
1

Good story, mate! Really glad for you!
/r/seduction12/04/11 07:00 AM
1

I ain't too sure of how to go on from here, actually... I feel kinda at my wits' end - my knowledge of game at this phase is pretty limited...
/r/seduction11/04/11 05:17 PM
0

I wonder, how do you guys think "Does being a lesbian count?" would've worked?
/r/seduction11/04/11 02:04 PM
1

Do it. Seriously. DO IT. Also, ready reggieband's post. Great idea there.
/r/seduction29/03/11 02:43 PM
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