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Never said it’ll help you get laid. I said that it’s viewed as a positive by most women that I’ve dated. It’s like if I said being nice is a positive in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:00 PM
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It’s an odds raised for relationships. Not hookups imo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:10 PM
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I never said you should get female friends to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:10 PM
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Most single women I’ve met are turned off by that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:09 PM
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I never said I go to them for my sole advice. I said it mostly helps in dating when women see you have deal friends
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:41 PM
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I don’t think that’s true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:31 PM
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Yeah it’s honestly so weird to me. I’ve had female friends all of my life so it’s just abnormal to me in general
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:30 PM
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Yeah some hate it for the most part I’ve seen it be a positive tho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:30 PM
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Yeah I mean that’s fine but that wasn’t my point. My argument was about focusing on creativity and excitement of the date rather than the actual connection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:22 AM
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What? If doing activities like this aren’t exciting when you’re in a relationship you should break up
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:39 AM
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It really does become like that to a degree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:36 AM
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Didn’t say anything about breaking the bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:36 AM
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That’s a ridiculous assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:51 PM
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What are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:51 PM
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I don’t understand what that has to do with what I’m talking about.!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:56 AM
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Who said I’m waiting 4-5 dates to kiss them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:11 AM
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Most men could have options if they improve themselves a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:11 AM
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Oh absolutely. That’s one of the biggest issues we have today. Everyone constantly fantasizing about that happier life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:10 AM
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Yeah I think the problem is people think a “hobby” has to be something expensive and glamorous that you see on tik tok on Instagram. Watching sports or going out hiking are both hobbies. I hate how spending a lot of money has now become the equivalent to out going
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:48 AM
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I think there’s a difference tho between introspection and change that occurs when you’re single vs experimenting with new random people
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:32 PM
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Show me where I said “women need to lower their standards”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:31 PM
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Oh my bad I read your comment incorrectly. But that is a key argument of TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:05 AM
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Where did I say it’s harder than ever
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:05 PM
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Sir your entire argument is bringing up exceptions to my generalizations. Your gripe is that I didn’t list every single possible caveat. Come back in about 5 months and I’ll type out the 12,500 caveats I can think of
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:42 PM
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The entire point of Reddit too. Like why are you even here 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:11 PM
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You shouldn’t be dating people to experiment and discover yourself that’s the opposite of introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:09 PM
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Your situation isn’t the norm tho. I know a lot of women do the “giving someone a chance” thing for relationships. Most women aren’t even attracted to most guys nowadays off rip
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:08 PM
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Yeah if you read my first paragraph I address this. And you don’t have to date differnt types of people to become more open minded
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:15 PM
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Jesus Christ did I not just acknowledge that there are hundreds of caveats that you can come up with? Are you just arguing to argue?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:58 PM
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Exactly. People are not just characters in a story for you to go on a journey and experiment with. Playing with someone’s emotions and manipulating them is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:15 PM
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No sir you’re trying to conflate multiple issues and hen throw in the bs “it’s nuance” wrench to try and sway from the overall argument. At its core it’s about respect. Respect the people you’re engaging with. Do not treat them like a secondary option. No shit there’s nuance to this who tf has time to write a 900 page dissertation about every nuance in human romantic relationships. The post is about a general guideline to follow and show people respect when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:13 PM
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I actually am fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:10 PM
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Your situation is not the norm tho: I think there’s always nuance to any take and opinion. My argument tho is for most people if you’re really not into someone and you view them as a backup option just leave them be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:09 PM
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You clearly didn’t read the post bc your first few lines are addressed in paragraph 1. Read it again Your last few sentences are honestly horrific advice and why alot of young men who listen to nonsense like that end up becoming red pill or blk pill. Comparing dating in your example puts the woman on a massive pedestal to where the man should be lucky to be in her presence. If anyone ever tells you that they’re giving you a chance and you go along with they simply don’t respect it there’s no if …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:43 PM
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You can’t make a rule. My post is about a suggestion idk why yall get so offended by posts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:39 PM
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Do you see me saying give unattractive men a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:41 PM
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Well and youre the textbook example of the woman that gets online and says “even the guy i didnt expect xyz from played me”. Stop going into relationships treating people as backups. Once they find out they’re going to get pissed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:56 AM
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You didnt read the post then bc what I’m talking about is clear and concisely spelled out. Please reread it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:54 AM
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The entire point of Reddit is people sharing their opinions. If you’re tired of that I’d probably just leave the platform in general. I made this post bc I hope I can have conversations and reach people who are doing something I deem harmful. If you don’t have an issue with it just ignore it. Take your own advice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:39 AM
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Porn has existed forever also porn doesn’t give the same level of rush and feelings as actual sex so I completely disagree. I think mystery can add to attraction but honestly comfort is something that’s really attractive to me as I get older. I don’t want the dopamine rush I want the healthy connection formers of certainty rather than anxiety
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:22 AM
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The average young man and woman make close to what each other make. If you’re making 55k and she’s making 48k your lifestyles are similar
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:05 AM
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Who said that you did? The averages include people with kids and people who own and manage homes. Taking care of a home and kids is a lot of work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:45 AM
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Statistically speaking the average woman spends 150 mins a week on chores the average man spends 75. Idc about your hypothetical that’s not remotely close to reality Yes I make a lot of posts. Guess what? I make 1 or 2 a day. That doesn’t stop me from doing my intense daily workouts as well as walking an additional 3-4 miles everyday. On top of that I work fully time as an engineer and I clean my place weekly and meal prep. Maybe you should spend less time being rude to people and actually focus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:18 AM
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No it really isn’t. It’s well understood that a provider would be someone that’s the sole anchor and holds the bulk of the burdens in the relationship especially financially. Read the comments everyone else seems to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:56 AM
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Yeah go where you’re appreciated
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:56 AM
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Ok. Why are you asking me this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:55 AM
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Thays absolutely false. Most women want a relationship nowadays where they can maintain their own financially autonomy. A breadwinner gives significant financial burden to one party something most aren’t looking for bc that independence is then removed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:55 AM
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Most of the time honestly I don’t think friendzone guys do it intentionally. I think they just try to ease their way into dating and try to befriend her first and then they get into this platonic zone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:52 AM
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I don’t think that’s good advice tho. It’s best if from the beginning we just decide we’re going to date or we’re going to be friends. Bc more than likely if he liked you 3 yrs down the road he liked you the day you met
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:51 AM
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It’s not really evenly split tho. Most women who are single are young women and those women aren’t looking for a male provider
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:50 AM
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Most married women work and those same women do more chores than the men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:51 PM
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They don’t seem to understand it’s their choice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:50 PM
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Yeah I was going more for egalitarian 50/50 but you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:06 PM
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No. You should be intentional still
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:05 PM
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That’s bc most guys are awful on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:05 PM
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TRP is kind of like a Ponzi schem where it’s a winners take all model and tons of men at screwed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:28 PM
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Men don’t need to provide. It’s 2026 and most women are not looking for men to come in and provide
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:54 PM
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Exactly just move on lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:47 PM
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That’s very true. They project their insecurities and frustrations onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:24 PM
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It hasn’t tho. I feel like you all are interacting with a specific bloc of women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:21 AM
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I think there’s a level of grooming going on in the manosphere where it’s training these guys to end up in scenarios where they’re going to become resentful of women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:15 AM
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Not remotely the same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:38 AM
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How did you take that away as a message from this post? Did you see me say that youre obligated to do anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:40 AM
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Only fans and sex workers aren’t really that common tho. Most women don’t have an only fans or sell their body
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:39 AM
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Why do you think that was?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:38 AM
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Yep. I find it funny tho how so many of the Manosphere guys talk about how women are all transactional yet they train men to target women from a transactional angle. Telling them they need to focus on making money to impress women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:38 AM
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No they just become less attractive on average so their standards drop looks wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:22 AM
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Social media is right there it’s in the comment right there. Ok wtf does your gf have to do with this? Do you think I meant flowers for every woman or do you think I just used it as an example? Yall legit just argue to argue
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:41 PM
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Read it again I said months or yrs into a relationship. It’s like you’re just arguing to argue. You have to earn someone’s increased desire or attention. Why on earth would I just hand it out on a platter?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:40 PM
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I don’t play games tho. If she wants to play there’s other dudes she can rock with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:39 PM
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It’s not yes and no. The men who get the most attention in dating put in the least effort. The women that get online and cry about men being non chalant and poor communicators or ghosting low effort aren’t just making up stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:39 PM
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Your personal experience isn’t even remotely close to the norm. Also a guy that’s experienced would pick up on those signs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:37 PM
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That is true. Acting too needy can actually get you in the friendzone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:52 PM
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You don’t need to play any games if she’s actually into you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:52 PM
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Yes I mentioned doing that in a relationship not initially. It’s right there mam
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:51 PM
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You shouldn’t need to raise anyone’s interest. They don’t actually like you if that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:50 PM
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Actually as women get older they’re less likely to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:50 PM
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No but it should be if you want a good relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:33 PM
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Yeah idk why this is being misconstrued. They’re not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:18 PM
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It should be hard tho. Humans were only paired up together long term in the past out of necessity. We no longer need that so why should it be forced
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:17 PM
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Thank you. And there are guys arguing with me too. It’s easier than ever to distinguish yourself as a guy if you’re at least in solid shape and have a decent job. You’re already way ahead of the rest of the group bc most men nowadays are obese and broke
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:13 PM
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Yeah I mean at least to me I wouldn’t get into a relationship that isn’t about genuine interest. Idk why you’d want to be with someone who only see transactional value
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:12 PM
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If you’re 38 and never been on the apps then you’re not really in tune with dating. I’m 31 and remember what dating was like just before it happened. We’re in a differnt world. It’s like you giving someone to just buy a house nowadays over investing in index funds
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:29 PM
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Yeah that’s pure yap. If a woman isn’t initially interested or “is giving you a chance” it’s bc she’s looking to see f other things raise interest outside of how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:28 PM
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I mean I take women on dates but it’s usually after matching on hinge and having a chat on FaceTime to feel it out. If I’m not feeling it I don’t go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:28 PM
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That’s nowhere near the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:27 PM
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Nothing is guaranteed in life. We’re talking about in most scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:27 PM
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Idk what that means
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:26 PM
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Well then you need to improve. Lose weight and get a better career
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:10 PM
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Nothing in this post has anything to do with a relationship. This is purely about attracting someone. Building a relationship is different. Also for men doing less equals more
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:09 PM
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I think a lot of guys on here are genuinely shocked that women will show tons of interest in guys they actually like. If more guys would focus on who actually likes them they’d be happier
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:24 PM
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That’s not true at all. Most women won’t show heavy resistance if they’re actually into you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:23 PM
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I don’t think that’s true. Women are unique just like men. What makes a woman attracted to you is too specific to her. But as a guy your goal is to figure that out as early as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:22 PM
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What does that have to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:53 PM
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Where did I say only women are complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:52 PM
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Ok but I also said social media….
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:34 PM
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Who are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:34 PM
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So then what are you arguing lmao? Who said women don’t find men attractive? The argument is about the number of men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:13 PM
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Huh? How does that negate the fact that they have tons of options? Most women’s quality is way above their head
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:13 PM
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That’s not why most women are pickier. That’s why women are less likely to engage in risky behavior with men. In terms of baseline attraction most women do not find most men attractive and it’s not even remotely close either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:55 PM
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Did you skip over the part where I said social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:54 PM
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That’s a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:54 PM
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If that were remotely true there wouldn’t be thousands of women complaining about the lack of effort from men in dating. The only men trying hard are the ones who haven’t learned their lesson yet and they’re in the minority. And like it or not the manosphere beliefs are pretty mainstream now most guys under the age of 40 have been exposed to that and are heavily emulating it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:53 PM
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That’s why I also said social media
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:51 PM
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Who said that women need men to survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:51 PM
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Yeah nowadays they seem to want their cake and eat it too. Tons of women crying online about Ken not doing “what they used to do”. Why would any guy with common sense invest a ton in a woman especially early on? You know that even going on a date doesn’t ensure that she’s actually interested. The majority of women have been on dates for free food or drinks. I just think it’s hilarious how many are upset that men are simply reacting to the dynamics they established
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:51 PM
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You can vastly improve your dating outcomes as a guy if you change your appearance. Good looking pictures are the gateway to dating apps. It matters even more than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:49 PM
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Yeah simps also take up a vocal minority but their overall numbers are dying. Guys are either changing their dating patterns or just full on giving up on dating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:47 PM
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Are most of the patients young or old?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:47 PM
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Sir in your own comment you’re proving my argument. Technology and the removal of social pressure changed the dynamic. Women finding themselves and sleeping with half the town wouldn’t be acceptable decades ago it’s now celebrated
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:46 PM
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Exactly. The paradox in dating for women is alot of them are searching for a guy better than them but then they get confused when that same guy exercises his leverage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:44 PM
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Exactly that’s the thing I don’t like about this sub. It always some boomer or gen xer using logic from 1984 to talk about dating in 2026. The dynamics have drastically changed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:43 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:42 PM
6

That’s not true. Most men aren’t attractive to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:42 PM
1

Marriage has changed thru out time. There’s nothing sacred or traditional about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:09 PM
2

Dating apps are designed to mostly do what clubs do. Get women in and then get men to pay to access those women. A few handful of guys do really well while most guys do meh at best. I do think if you have good pictures and are in shape you can clean up on there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:09 PM
2

Is it mostly online or in person?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:08 PM
2

I never said they didn’t. I said they have more than in the past. And things are different. Silent Gen to baby boomers was an up swing in wealth and sexual liberation. They opposite is happening now so your argument isn’t really true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:08 PM
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Yeah you’re just straight up lying. Men have never outnumbered women at singles events that’s always been something single women in their 30s and 40s flocked to in heavy numbers. Single men were more likely to go to the bars and try to hit on 20 yr olds. Secondly men are at historical rates of being single and loneliness in general. Idk where you live but this is well documented. Yes men do have a strong biological desire to procreate but that rush can be filled by porn. That same rush that me w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:06 PM
5

None of what you just said is true. Technology has opened up options as well as social shame. Top Men didn’t have as many options either bc societal pressure forced the jnto monogamy. And yes clubs are dying and so is over the top chivalry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:00 PM
1

Declining marriage rates is due to less people putting up with awful marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:36 PM
5

Young men don’t approach anywhere near previous levels. In fact young men aren’t even dating that much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:34 PM
1

Again that doesn’t mean much. It’s not as efficiently tho. Approaching 100 women to get what would take you mins on a dating app is just not efficient
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:16 PM
8

Men have already stopped approaching. Most of the people doing approaching are older generations. Go to a club now and it’s just guys on their phone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:14 PM
3

Yep. Dating apps are just the brutal reality of how women actually feel. Wasting your time approaching women at grocery stores and target is why nobody listens to pick up artists anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:14 PM
1

Apps work for me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:13 PM
2

It’s 2026
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:29 PM
2

I didn’t if you read the post I clearly said it’s th most efficient way. Try reading the entire post next time before responding
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:01 PM
5

That’s true for the most part unless it’s their type but how tf is anyone supposed to know this before hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:54 PM
2

Where did you see me say it’s not possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:54 PM
8

I don’t like challenges or impressing women. Maybe you’re younger but I’m in my early 30s. I did that when I was younger and it’s a waste of time and also debasing. I don’t need to glaze the ego of some random chick
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:38 PM
9

Warm approach is how you get friendzoned. That’s not really good advice either tbf. You should be intentional. Focus on women that want you and stop trying to back door.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:21 AM
2

Now where as common as what meeting at the club used to be. That would just be an offshoot of dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:22 AM
2

Well i also said efficiency. It’s far easier for me to swipe on an app and know that the woman isn’t wasting my time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:22 AM
9

Again a horrible idea. If you haven’t made your intentions known before it’s about a 9/10 chance you’re going to get friendzoned. Also making thinks awkward in the workplace is always a recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:21 AM
2

The majority of people meet nowadays on dating apps so idk what generation you’re speaking of but that’s not this one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:20 AM
4

Pursuing hobbies to get a woman is horrible dating advice no offense. Mutual friends I get but even then I’d say is less common nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:19 AM
3

Why do you care if you’re married? The people who have used it before can relate and will agree with what I’m saying. Just bc something doesnf appear in your realm doesn’t mean it didn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:17 AM
3

Not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:16 AM
13

That’s a complete lie. Women are awful at pursuing and are actually far more afraid of rejection than men. Most women don’t even have the courage to ask a guy out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:16 AM
8

Yeah. I think alot of guys who talk about prenups a ton are vicariously living thru other
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:38 AM
6

Agreed but I don’t think it’s relevant for most people. Most people date and marry within their economic range.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:19 AM
5

Most people don’t need a prenup anyway bc most people marry within their income bracket. So much of manosphere circles focuses on these celebrity or athlete relationships that ends in multimillion dollar divorces. You as a man making 70k isn’t going to get fleeced if your wife making 60k divorces you or vice versa. So it’s not really something ordinary people need to worry about
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:08 AM
1

That’s closer to trad con. That’s not the same as red pill. Most red pillers would tell you that you need to work and provide for your wife and family
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:43 AM
1

That doesn’t apply to the bulk of relationships. You need to be in a certain income bracket for that to even be a remote reality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:24 PM
1

No they aren’t. In fact they literally warn their followers not to get married
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:23 PM
1

Where are the red pillers with happy marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:50 PM
3

TRP relationships are built on transactional relationships and power dynamics. It’s also deeply toxic for men. Most of the preach that the men have to amass large levels of clout and Waller to have leverage over their partner rather than forming a healthy connection where both sides come together and work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:40 AM
1

Yes and I’m pushing back on that. The TRP pillars of a relationship hinge on ridiculous standards and expectations that most men cannot meet today financially or mentally. A sustainable and healthy relationship today requires both sides working together
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:38 AM
1

Getting into a healthy relationship isn’t random it’s pretty heavily intentional
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:36 AM
-6

Most women are looking for this nowadays. There’s a reason most women are frustrated with the dating scene
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:25 AM
5

You don’t know what his home life is actually like. Donovan sharpe got exposed for being married to a single mom in her 50s. A lot of these guys lie about their situations
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:24 AM
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Sir my post is about relationships not dating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:23 AM
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Yeah I don’t think he has alot of sexual experience
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:23 AM
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That’s prob for men with little sexual experience. The more experience you have simply getting an O isn’t that fulfilling. It’s the build up and the journey
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:39 AM
0

Not my problem: this society is built on greed and has done nothing to even ensure you can affordably bring life into this world. Don’t give a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:05 PM
0

I’m only speaking from my perspective and the culture that I’m in. It would be a nightmare for ME
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:46 AM
1

You said construction or entry level….
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:42 AM
6

I’m a fan of marriage if it’s done for love. I hate the idea of arranged marriages, marriages out of necessity, religion and what you mentioned above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:22 AM
2

Automation will fill the gap
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:21 AM
6

It’s controversial to men who can’t have a relationship without controlling a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:20 AM
3

I didn’t say you should care. I don’t care either. I’m just saying the arguments being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:12 AM
1

She didn’t bc she found it abhorrent. Most women would
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:11 AM
6

It’s all red pill fantasy land theory. The birth rates and marriage rates aren’t due to men it’s due to women choosing to focus on their financial stability and independence over kids. Conservative young men are the only ones who view marriage as a top 5 priority <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:10 AM
5

Married people spend more and create families. That generates more economic revenue. Single people are more left leaning than married people on average
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:07 AM
5

I don’t really care about birth rates declining. I’ll work the extra yrs to make up for less retirement funds being available
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:06 AM
10

Young Men especially conservative much have a stronger desire to get married than women. So idk what you’re talking about. The rake thru the coal is mostly a manosphere hoax. The real reason marriage is declining is bc less women are interested
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:05 AM
2

They’ve already tried but financial incentives don’t really boost marriage rates or birth rates by much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:04 AM
4

Lower marriage rates leads to less birth rates and less consumer spending. It also means a shift in cultural dynamics along political lines
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:03 AM
6

The rich men that marry women like that and get divorced are still getting married. Thays not really relevant to this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:00 AM
0

That’s a good point. A lot of them are socially isolated
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:10 AM
2

Cooking is a skill that adults do. How do you survive without a woman around by your logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:32 AM
3

Disagree with last part. A good chunk of women are femcels rn. If they were socially inept it would be harder to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:31 AM
1

What a woman wears has nothing to do with whether she’ll cheat or not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:26 AM
2

That rarely ever happens. Most people are afraid to even react in an abrasive manner publicly and most women are afraid or how men will react to rejection. Just seems like you’re drawing in some weird fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:58 PM
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These blk pill doomer types typically live in isolation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:56 PM
2

The avg red pill guy doesn’t understand that talking to a woman like she’s an object isn’t attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:50 PM
0

So then what’s your issue? You just claimed women are getting worse but so are men so it’s balanced out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:49 PM
-2

I hope you don’t actually believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:48 PM
0

Men are also fatter and broker than in the past so what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:17 PM
-1

I don’t see what the problem is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:16 PM
0

Sure and there are men who sleep with women they’re attracted enough to hookup with but not enough to take outside on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:49 PM
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Yes most people men and women select who they think is best for them based on what’s available. How else would you date sir?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:48 PM
2

I said it’s a man’s problem based on the men who are reacting to it on tik tok, YouTube and twitter and claiming that women had unrealistic standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:47 PM
0

5’8
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:46 PM
-2

That line isn’t going to work with most women. A key tenant of the manosphere is ignoring outliers. Looks and status alone has never been enough to solely attract a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:21 PM
-3

I never said that. You still need to be attractive to her. But seduction and flirting is a form of communication that can make you come off as less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:19 PM
1

Women don’t typically go on coffee dates with guys they don’t find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:18 PM
2

I think a lot of manosphere guys assume that once they’re rich and good looking they can just say anything and they’ll become a pussy magnet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:17 PM
2

Yep spot on. 100% agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:17 PM
0

I’ve been with a lot of women and I promise you most women don’t find that attractive. I think a lot of men lack flirting and communication skills. You can say that if you all have a bond and you’ve been together for sometime. Safety and comfort is importantly when knowing what you can and can’t say. If i say they to my gf of 3 yrs thats differ than someone i met 30 mins ago. These are social skills that comes with time and practice. I also think a lot of guys not having female friends has an in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:15 PM
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Very terrifying and absolutely disgusting. Again there’s a way to escalate sexually and that comes with time and communication but the majority of the meathead red pill and manosphere crowd doesn’t under communication
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:43 PM
1

Yeah bc the metabolism starts to crash and they put on weight
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:10 PM
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If you were dating now you’d know why that is. Putting in tons of effort doesn’t lead to what it once did. Not when everyone has tons of options
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:07 PM
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“Get a pizza job to pay your college tuition”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:06 PM
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You sound like you’re taking this incredibly personal. Idk why you’re this invested if you haven’t been single for yrs. Also chill with the personal digs an grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:36 PM
5

Today isn’t the same. People have more access to a wide array of options
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:01 PM
3

When was the last time you’ve been on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:00 PM
1

Fitness matters way more than age at least for the yrs 20s-40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:00 PM
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Bc the dating world has changed. And yes it does. Dating is a skill. If you haven’t played the game of basketball or watched it in 15 yrs you’d be confused why centers are shooting 3s. We’re constantly adapting and if you’re not actively engaged in the current environment your advice is mute
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:43 PM
2

Yeah exactly. If you want young woman to find you attractive when you’re older you gotta look like an idris elba brad Pitt type. You better be in the gym grinding and eat a healthy diet. Can’t look like the koolaid man and think you’re going to be desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:10 AM
4

But they ignore that looks still matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:09 AM
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I kind of disagree. I think as you get older taking care of your health and working out more is essential. Like I would do anything cosmetic but I’m in the gym lifting 4-5x a week and eating a high fiber diet bc I want to look and feel healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:09 AM
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Not really true. It comes down to diet and both men and women in America eat low fiber, high processed food diets, while consuming way more than their required daily calories. Not to mention they’re also living a sedentary lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:08 AM
2

Yes but very few men actually end up achieving that. Most men end up fat and bald. So it doesn’t mean much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:50 AM
1

Yep. Once the metabolism crashes it over if you don’t change your diet
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:49 AM
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Yea that’s a good point. I don’t think people understand how lonely it is for so many men who fall into that group. It’s kind of like someone in a first world problems in comparisons to someone in a 3rd world countries just barely surviving
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:35 AM
1

Yep. I played running back in college and I’d burn 7-8k a day from 2 a days in the summer. I’d do that and then eat two boxes of pizza and wings with candy. I had to spend an entire two yrs post college unlearning these bad habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:17 PM
2

Unless people make conscious efforts to maintain a great diet a lot of those college athletes will fall off. Your metabolism isn’t going to stay the same
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:13 PM
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True. I mean overall both men and women typically age horribly bc of poor diet and lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:11 PM
2

I’m 31 but you’ll see it as you get into your 30s. I have former classmates from high school that look 10 yrs older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:35 PM
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It mostly comes down to diet and fitness. Especially diet. If you eat like trash it’s going to comeback to haunt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:34 PM
1

I’m simply responding to the manosphere aspect of it bc it’s a common thing that men who are in that space like to preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:31 PM
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It’s actually usually the guys who make intentional lifestyle changes. Most of the athletic guys in their teens and 20s had horrible diets and lifestyles paired with it and rarely stick to that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:30 PM
3

Here we go again someone that has an opinion but couldn’t bother to read the post. Please read again
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:18 PM
4

Every man does not. I promise you there’s an army of lames who don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:54 AM
1

Oh so you didn’t read what I wrote you just went to talking. Pretty dangerous way to operate in life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:02 PM
-2

Who said anything about romantic options. I just said options
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:01 PM
1

Who cares? I don’t owe society anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:01 PM
1

I have options so that irrelevant. I put in the work so I don’t have to be at that level
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:00 PM
5

So back to my point you have options you just don’t like what the options are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:00 PM
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Unless a woman has a massive deformity in her face she’s going to have tons of options even if she’s obese
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:58 PM
4

If thags all you’re attracting than that’s a reflection of you. YAll seem to think I’m giving out advice. I’m just pointing out a reality in dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:57 PM
3

If you actually read it you’d know. Nowhere in my post did I say anything about women choosing better. Idk where you read that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:56 PM
1

The fat girl isn’t into them. Why aren’t you getting about this? Fat girls have a good amount of options
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:56 PM
2

No it’s not bc most of the time the options aren’t bad. I’ve had women I dated or am friends with say they’ve seen great guys online who the fire simply bc they had too many options and he fell to the way side. And I don’t think it’s some inherent “women are this xyz” the choice of options is a differnt curse where you might never find happiness bc you’re always chasing something better
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:49 PM
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No you have options you just don’t want them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:47 PM
1

Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:47 PM
-1

Yeah but that falls under the work category I was talking about. Men do have to actively create those options and alot of the no options guys are just not attractive physically or economically
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:46 PM
-4

“My attitude is that the world is the way that it is and you either gotta adapt or you’ll suffer. “ Do yall read before responding or do you just look at headlines and type ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:45 PM
-1

Most men especially young right leaning and manosphere men don’t understand this that’s why they want kids more than any other group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:35 PM
2

Absolutely. Simping is to blame for most of the problems that men have with dating the entitlement of your average woman comes from that. If the average guy wasn’t a horndog 24/7 women wouldn’t run around expecting princess treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:34 PM
1

Oh yeah I mean that ties into this as well tho. They sit around on their podcasts threatening that “The Wall” is going to doom women if they don’t find a man by then which is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:54 AM
1

Sir most research shows that socialization has a bigger impact on desire to have kids than biology. Women aren’t running to have kids anymore bc there’s no societal pressure to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:53 AM
1

It’s not just America tho. This is a global issue it’s really bad in South Korea right now
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:48 AM
1

So the opinions of men on podcasts should matter more?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:18 AM
3

The biggest thing I’d change is focusing less on outdated tropes and trying to mold men into this ideal box of masculinity and instead embrace modern approaches. You can talk about self improvement, looks maxing (thru diet and exercise) while also promoting mental health awareness and speaking to therapists. It shouldn’t be this thing where you’re either a full on simp without a backbone or a full blown misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:43 PM
4

Women do much better being single than men sir. So thags not true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:09 PM
1

I think red pill is closer to good observations and then goes overboard. Blk pill is honestly undiagnosed mental health conditions
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:08 PM
3

That doesn’t mean most women view it that way. we’re living in a different age. Most women care about having a career. A child is going to disrupt a large portion of that and put them behind the race. Imagine leaving your career for a few yrs and expecting to not have any negative consequences. In addition people are finding fulfillment without kids. More Time and money is wealth. Not having to tend to the needs of someone who is dependent on you. Being able to pickup and go wherever you want. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:06 PM
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I don’t think that’s true tho. Most of the polling shows that a sizable majority of people who don’t want kids simply just don’t want them. I think society is undergoing a change where smaller populations will be the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:03 PM
2

Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:02 PM
3

It is hard tho. It takes a severe hit on ther career earning potential and child care costs are thru the roof
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:58 PM
3

People regret having children as well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:57 PM
8

Do you think they’d prefer that to having children which greatly contributes to the wage gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:57 PM
5

I don’t think alot of women agree with you that children are an investment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:56 PM
1

People volunteer to sacrifice they aren’t required to
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:55 PM
2

Women don’t derive their value from their appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:48 PM
3

Again those women don’t seem to be that concerned
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:47 PM
0

Why should anyone be required to self sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:47 PM
3

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:45 PM
6

How is it a facade?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:45 PM
3

The takeaway is that women find value in community more than men who tend to isolate more so not having kids or a romantic long term relationship isn’t some deal breaker for them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:44 PM
2

Idk if that’s true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:10 PM
8

Sir millions of years of evolution led to community building. Single women still have active networks of community with friends and family. Single men isolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:10 PM
6

I’m not arguing that it’s not happening. I literally stated that it does. I’m arguing that women aren’t upset about it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:09 PM
2

Do they ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:07 PM
4

I don’t really think it’s sad tho. Most women are prioritizing their career. Not everyone wants kids
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:58 PM
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I didn’t say I didn’t like anything. I’m simply observing patterns
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:43 PM
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That’s nowhere close to the majority. Prob more women who want that for orbiters
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:52 PM
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Very few men want that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:27 PM
1

Choose better partners then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:49 PM
0

Who said anyone was lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:48 PM
4

What
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:47 PM
7

How are you being used? You had consensual sex with him
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:41 PM
1

Then don’t date mam
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:40 PM
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Did you not consent to the sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:34 PM
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No I agree I don’t think most people perceive it that way but it is subtle and I think it usually doesn’t come to the surface unless you’ve been played with or done wrong in dating. Thays when the dark nature of men and women can come to light a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:27 PM
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I was mostly just referring to women getting frustrated when guys are more in the driver seat. That’s why most of the men women complain about are the ones with tons of women to choose from
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:26 PM
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Do you have any arguments outside of ad hominem attacks? Sir a good chunk of women have admitted they go on dates for free shit. And the number is probably higher than that.z Like what bubble of a world do you live in where millions of men are just making this shit up https://nypost.com/2025/10/25/lifestyle/nearly-one-third-of-gen-z-singles-are-going-on-dates-just-for-free-food-a-girls-gotta-eat/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:25 PM
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Yep. 33% of women have admitted to going on a date for just free drinks and food. And that’s just who has admitted the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:23 PM
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And the funny thing is the screening has a threshold. If he’s hot all of they goes out the window. If women were actually consistent with their so called standards they wouldn’t cry online about players or cheaters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:22 PM
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I just love how certain people here assume that if you have anything negative to say about women in dating you’re suddenly a blk pill or Andrew Tate fan. I still love women I just call out some of the bs a lot of women perpetuate. Same goes for the guys. I feel like any honest person would get that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:21 PM
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Right like it’s hilarious that anytime we get into these debates women run to the SA and DV card, which btw happens at the same rate for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:15 PM
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How would you get used for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:13 PM
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Whoever is the prize is the one who exerts less energy in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:11 PM
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That’s literally the same thing. If you believe you’re the prize e you believe that you should have the power in the relationship it’s that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:08 PM
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A woman could easily beat a man to death
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:07 PM
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None of that is relevant to the topic. We’re not living in the Stone Age. If a man exciutes his strength on a woman she can simply get him arrested. The argument about social norms and wealth is outdated in 2026. Most young women are making close to the same money as men, the gap is usually so to women who take time off for maternity leave and birth rates are sinking so that’s less of an issue. The core dynamic is that women still expect most men to essentially pursue or beg for their affection
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:05 PM
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I actually don’t. But I have had to say it repeatedly bc there’s quite a few people here who struggle to stay on topic. Secondly that’s a lie. Most women inherently believe that they’re the prize and that most men should go out of their way to pursue them. Thanks for actually discussing the topic tho. It seems like it’s hard for people to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:02 PM
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Sir women are dating these men in this situation. If they weren’t they’d just reject them. wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:17 PM
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You’re simply gaslighting and trying to flip the subject
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:06 PM
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Most relationships have power dynamics. Very few if any are egalitarian
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:05 PM
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You brought up a completely different aspect of dating thats irrelevant to the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:48 PM
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No one said anything about social superiority. I think you’re talking about a completely different subject
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:46 PM
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I defined the validity. I didn’t deny his ability to convey his opinion. Do you not see his post there?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:46 PM
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Mam if you can’t get your argument into a concise bubble you’re the one struggling with communication. In fact that shows your argument is weak bc you’d be able to get your message across fairly easily
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:45 PM
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You said I’m pushing a projection then go on to agree with me but say both sides do it. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:35 PM
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None of what he’s talking about is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:34 PM
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No that’s irrelevant to this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:32 PM
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That has nothing to do with this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:32 PM
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Mam if you were disinterested you wouldn’t be engaging youd say no. Women putting up a list of expectations where they control the power dynamics is power. Disinterest would be simply rejecting. No one said anything about rejecting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:31 PM
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If we’re just gonna be rude you can have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:29 PM
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Oh my god. Not only can you not stick on topic you insist on writing essays back in response. Is it impossible to condense your argument into a reasonable box? This isn’t a therapy session
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:29 PM
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The same basis you’re using to know they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:19 PM
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Sir try sticking to the topic respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:19 PM
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Idk if yall are trying to get therapy sessions off but it seems as if sticking to the topic is alluding you. Most women do not like the dynamic where the men puts in less effort than them. They prefer the opposite. Thays the topic. Please stick to it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:18 PM
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I’m asking you. You’re bringing up topics that have nothing to do with what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:16 PM
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Yeah idk where your conclusions lead but that has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:15 PM
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Idk what that has to do with this topic. Did I say being alone is wrong or even talk about being alone? Can yall try and stick to the topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:15 PM
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Mam you literally just contradicted yourself. If they’re not afraid of losing something they wouldn’t prefer just stop
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:14 PM
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Again you keep insinuating SA which is disgusting bc no one is saying anything about women’s right to refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:13 PM
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Most of them do and when it doesn’t work out they move down the line and getting a guy who will be their lap dog suffices
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:12 PM
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That’s like arguing we have more power over billionaires if we simply don’t let them exploit us. I’m not worried about what should happen. I’m talking about the current dynamics. Most men are in relationships where the woman calls the shots
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:11 PM
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Yes it’s misogynistic for a guy to pick up his ball and go home when he feels as if he’s being manipulated. Woman: “you need to do xyz to get with me” Guy: “nah I’ll just go home, you have a good day mam” The misogyny is off the charts here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:10 PM
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I never said that women don’t pursue men and I also didn’t say that men aren’t afraid of rejection. Can you show me where I said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:09 PM
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Not talking about the right of refusal. Talking about the power dynamic of who has more leverage or desire in the relationship. It’s honestly insane how these subs just devolve into every woman using SA and physical violence as a break in case of emergency silencer. Both men and women can face physical danger in a relationship. The debate is about who pursues who and the power dynamics intertwined. Stay on topic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:08 PM
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That has nothing to do with what I’m talking about. And it’s hilarious that women continue to deflect with physical risk. How tf would man pursing more assuage physical risk? The debate in question is woman wanting the man to pursue him more than she pursues if we’re truly living in this war zone where every woman is one step away from SA wouldn’t you want the women to be the more active party pursing and going after men than the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:06 PM
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Mam the topic is specifically about power in dating dynamics. Your red herrings aren’t relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:04 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with being selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:04 PM
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Mam idk what world you live in but human beings inherently seek power. That would be a rational conclusion. You try to seek as much power as you can in your day to day life. You want things on your accord not someone else controlling it. Thays simply human psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:03 PM
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Idk what the rant about friendzoning has to do with what I said above. Women expect most men to pursue them that’s a power dynamic. Women having to put in effort to raise a man’s interest is frustrating to them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:55 PM
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Women absolutely have power in dating. Most guys enter dynamics where they’re chasing her. But I agree walking away should be the strategy if you feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:54 PM
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Idk why you’re showing a picture of Andrew Tate. Andrew Tate is an insecure man. He had to lock women away bc he was afraid of losing one. My advice to most guys is to put yourself first and don’t be afraid of losing a women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:53 PM
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None of that has anything to do with what I just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:52 PM
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Yeah none of what you just said has anything to do with this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:52 PM
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This entire sub is about people sharing their opinions…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:51 PM
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I would say most manosphere guys are telling men to not put in alot of effort especially early on nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:43 PM
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Yeah it’s like making a pizza for them. They want all the benefits of modern feminism while also picking and choosing the parts of patriarchy they want to keep. Power corrupts anyone that’s given it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:41 PM
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You didn’t really refute anything I said. You just said “oh it is what it is” and essentially you just gotta deal with it. And I said nothing about not approaching either. Approaching doesn’t mean you don’t have the power in hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:40 PM
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WHAT DO I KNOW ABOUT THIS RANDOM WOMAN ON THR STREET? Yall love to play this game and it’s so ridiculous. It is not weird for someone to approach purely based off looks. Thays a large part of dating. I don’t know her fucking mindset. Just like you don’t know mine but the only reason you’d be down with me approaching is bc YOU FIND ME ATTRACTIVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:38 PM
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You didn’t refute anything he said. And that’s literally the core of this. Women sugar coat and dance around issue but most of you view yourself as the prize
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:24 PM
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The only reason you want him to put in effort is bc by default women want the upper hand advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:23 PM
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That doesn’t make any sense. You don’t know anything about this woman outside of how she looks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:22 PM
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That’s you tho. Most women find a few guys very attractive without “building report” a slightly larger pool in that medium interest bin and the rest are unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:20 PM
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The men who follow this will succeed. The chad and the fboys are like this already. They don’t put in a ton of effort to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:19 PM
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That’s bc most women don’t find most men attractive. The men they do find attractive don’t have to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:18 PM
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Yep. Less is always more. That’s why learning stoicism and having a non chalant outlook towards dating will bring you a ton of success. If a woman likes you, she’ll push all the effort forward and you can sit back and chill. All that crap about men putting in effort is for the guys they’re hoping to friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:17 PM
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Calling someone unattractive to their face is fucked yo you prob shouldn’t date if you’re expecting that from women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:40 PM
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Well it’s usually bc men actually like engaging with different perspectives rather than just cancelling people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:39 PM
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I said this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:24 PM
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You already know the truth the truth just hurts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:23 PM
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I have my evidence in my post if you don’t like it that’s on you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:25 PM
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I just did you just didn’t like the response
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:24 PM
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There is no manosphere safe space. Theres tons of women dominating and arguing in the so called men’s spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:23 PM
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The fact that you can come to JJ sub and give your opinion and I can’t go to a blue pill or pink pill sub and do the same proves my point l. Most of this stuff is in your favor
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:41 PM
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Men are shamed openly for even having multiple partners especially in this sub. Most of the women here act as if we live in some puritan society and most men are to be feared bc they’re knuckle dragging cavemen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:40 PM
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Any major news network, sports network etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:38 PM
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Do you have any evidence for any of your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:37 PM
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No one said anything about loneliness idk what you talking about mam
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:02 PM
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No one does this other than trolls online. If a man went on the airwaves and said this about a woman he’d be cancelled. Yall love to play this game
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:46 PM
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Megan stallion lied under oath about that incident, is currently being charged with sexual harassment by a former employee and has a long history of cheating on her partners. And yet she’s the one getting praise while Klay is shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:04 PM
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Yeah opinions are typically being made up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:03 PM
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You said they’re not I’m curios why they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:00 PM
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Yep the beauty standards one is the funniest part to me. Most men have zero problem getting with average women even tho the average woman is significantly more obese than 50-60 yrs ago. Meanwhile most women don’t find most men attractive. Even the ones they’re dating and married to are usually safe backups who have either money or kiss their ass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:59 PM
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It is bc high value men are sleeping with multiple women at once
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:57 PM
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And society will say she’s “discovering herself”. There’s countless examples of porn stars getting married bc they were “discovering themselves” with little shaming from the women that bash men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:57 PM
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Why not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:55 PM
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Also the tide has shifted towards men getting shamed more. Most men are afraid to openly come out and criticize women. Meg stallion is a cheater and promotes WAP as her slogan but when an nba player refused to commit to her women are all over the internet calling him a weak man. These same women will sit down and shame older men who prefer young women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:55 PM
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I didn’t say women aren’t shamed I said they’re shamed less
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:54 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:53 PM
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That’s a lie. Especially in this sub men are called disgusting for wanting multiple partners
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:53 PM
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Maybe read it again
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:52 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:52 PM
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Ok sounds good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:01 PM
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Oh ok gotchu
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:28 PM
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I don’t listen to podcasts so idk what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:20 PM
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Do you see your account on the comments above this? Why would i be addressing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:19 PM
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I don’t understand how that’s even remotely relevant to what I’m talking about. Me saying I’d rather be alone than be wit someone who isn’t interested in me for me has nothing to do with that horrible analogy you just vomited. In addition idc what’s been done in the past. For 99% of human history we didn’t have electricity why are you using it today by your own logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:17 PM
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Yeah it’s gross when men do it but when it’s a woman it’s empowering
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:51 AM
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For what
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:51 AM
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Yeah that’s what most people mean when they say nice guy. The guy who thinks bc he’s a “nice guy” that entitles him to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:51 AM
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He wasn’t that’s why she’s online everyday arguing with other men about their dating patterns. Might be Diana Rossini’s burner
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:50 AM
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Yep men are more likely to settle. If a woman looks good she’s going to “want her worth” and only date up. Men have no problem dating down a few levels
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:49 AM
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They’ll see a rich unattractive guy with a super model and claim that they’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:48 AM
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No I’m more saying that those men aren’t qualified to give dating advice. I wouldn’t call them losers if they feel fulfilled but I wouldn’t call them experts either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:48 AM
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I’m not red pill so idk what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:46 AM
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I don’t understand why women run around and hype themselves about empowerment an how women can be anything they want and have options but the moment a man says he wants the same thing everyone’s triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:45 AM
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True. Point out me out where I said the opposite of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:44 AM
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Sounds awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:57 AM
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You can’t settle when you don’t have any options
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:52 AM
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Don’t even waste your breath arguing with that person. The blue pill men and disingenuous women who come in here to simply invalidate any concern that most men have are essentially trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:46 AM
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That’s all I’m saying. A lot of guys aren’t in relationships with women who genuinely desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:39 AM
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They’re the type to “retreat to the man cave” when their wife has her weekly mood swing and she’s unbearable to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:38 AM
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You don’t have the time but you’re here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:29 AM
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I didn’t say anything about running thru 100 women for validation I don’t endorse any of the pills not sure where you got that from You sound very passionate and angry. For a guy who claims to have slept with 100 women a comment that you claim has nothing to do with you has you worked up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:47 AM
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You don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:46 AM
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They just do it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:36 AM
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Sounds like they won
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:27 AM
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The game is having control over your dating life. Having the power to understand that you’d like a relationship but you want one that’s genuine and not built on when you can provide for a woman but for who you are. And you accept that being single is ok and men should learn to embrace it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:27 AM
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That’s what I meant in my post. A lot of men don’t get to the point where they experience genuine desire. They’re either paying for it by leading with their wallet or they’re simping and kissing her feet
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:23 AM
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I just did
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:20 AM
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Ok sounds good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:16 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:15 AM
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Fulfillment comes internally that’s how you win the game. I’m fulfilled whether I’m with someone or not. Winning the game is the power of choice and the mastery of that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:09 AM
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Oh my bad I mixed up your comment with someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:08 AM
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Misandric doesn’t mean what you think it means
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:07 AM
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I said that’s a rule for me bc I understand the game. If you want to be with the first woman that touches you and that brings you joy be my guest I don’t think that makes you a loser. But I will say if you enter into a dating debate I will check you bc you don’t have the resume to enter one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:07 AM
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You’re under every post I make concerned about how men view you yet you claim to be married. That literally confirms my point about women and their settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:06 AM
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I never called those men losers. I said they simply haven’t mastered the game that doesn’t make them losers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:05 AM
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Right he just feels lucky to be with someone. She didn’t get what she wants an settled for a consolation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:04 AM
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Dating someone doesn’t mean you view them as very attractive. Especially not women who will forgo looks for resources
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:03 AM
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I think the women settle when they choose guys they’re less attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:02 AM
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I never said they were losers. I said they don’t understand the game nor have they mastered it. I never even said that you need to master it to be fulfilled. I’m saying you can’t speak on something they you’re not well experienced jn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:02 AM
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Where did you read that I said the point isn’t to be happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:01 AM
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I don’t think it’s called settling. I think a lot of the men in the situations I described latch onto the first woman that allows them to touch her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:01 AM
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The average man has a much lower bar for what he’d view as attractive in comparison to the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:57 AM
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Who said they were losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:56 AM
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Yeah nice guy in what I’m referring to in the post is the stereotypical nice guy. I don’t mean he’s actually nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:30 AM
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If you were pulling in consistent pussy you wouldn’t be crying under this comment section
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:42 PM
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Do you all just struggle with comprehension? Did I not tell you I’m talking to the ones who are complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:41 PM
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Idc what should be. Most people man and woman are not kind people. Most people are incredibly selfish. Are you an adult? Like what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:29 PM
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Yea being a nice person is a quality that people have to work on. Idk what world you live in but there’s a lot of evil and horrible shit going on. We live in a country with record income inequality and entire generations feeling destitute. Unless your definition of kindness is just face value courtesy what you’re saying is bs. Being kind is offering encouraging words to others, self sacrifice, doing extra chores when your partner is exhausted or understanding when they’re overwhelmed. This takes…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:27 PM
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For the 10 billionth time. The boring drones aren’t complaining nor do they fall under the “nice guy” category. Read before responding
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:19 PM
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Especially for maintenance. You know how many people say they wish their spouse was simply nicer?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:19 PM
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I think the problem is between you and the other women you’re suffering from sort of disease. I explained to you countless times how I’m referring to maintenance and yet you all continue to skip over that and run with your own conclusion. Stop crying bc it hits home.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:18 PM
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Are you just typing sending without reading? Mam I just told that it’s for maintenance of the relationship. Your car analogy isn’t remotely relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:17 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:44 PM
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YES ATTRACTING A WOMAN IS A NON STOP PROCESS. Do you not understand how relationships work? You don’t just become bf and gf or husband and wife and the work stops. Relationships require maintenance. Being kind is a part of that. Jesus Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:29 PM
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The women that say that are only saying that for men they find ugly. Michael b Jordan or Zac effron could sexualize them 24/7 and they’d have no issue
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:21 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:14 PM
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Attraction is something that actively occurs like I said above and I’ll repeat for the 5 billionth time being nice absolutely matters. Is it going to get her panties wet? No but in a relationship to maintain the attraction being nice matters. It goes both ways for men and women. It’s not just some baseline either. It actually takes work and effort to be a nice person bc a lot of people are shitty. Do I think you should get some sort of trophy for it? No. Do I think it’ll get you a woman? No. Wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:13 PM
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I never said being nice will get you laid. I said being nice plays a role in maintains a relationship. Do you red pill guys think about anyone else but yourself? What value do you add to a relationship? Do you actually like who you’re with? Once you get a woman are you going to work to maintain the relationship? Being nice absolutely plays a role in a relationship WHICH IS WHAT I SAJD ABOVE
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:04 PM
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Break it to me? I didn’t say being nice would get you a relationship lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:59 PM
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Being nice absolutely plays a role in attracting a woman. It helps keep together relationships. Being nice is separate from seduction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:20 PM
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Ok have a good one. I think a lot of yall are just here to complain which is reference back to my post
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:19 PM
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Didn’t say it was. Look up what “nice guy” is referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:19 PM
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Then do that. Who’s stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:03 PM
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Then do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:02 PM
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Again I don’t think you’re comprehending correctly bc I have now multiple times stated that looks matters and gave you methods to improve it. I don’t think you and other men like you want solutions. You just want to complain about life. Have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:02 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:46 PM
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Idek wht you blk pill guys are trying to prove. Your complaining is only going to fall on deaf ears bc news flash nobody cares that much that you can’t get lad
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:38 PM
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I didn’t say that. I said they need to improve or get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:37 PM
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Sir those are not the nice guy archetype. Those men have enough social skills, looks and charisma to get themselves into relationships. The “nice guy” can’t get laid or in relationships bc they’re not able to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:36 PM
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What does work mean? I said mysterious is in combination with other things you bring to the table. The problem is yal are looking for a silver bullet to have pussy flowing into your laps. It takes work in multiple areas
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:35 PM
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When did I say that was sexual tension? Do you not understand what’s being written? That’s advice for improving your looks and overall game. Building sexual tension involves being able to read a woman well, flirt with her that involves banter, playful touch, mental engagement and teasing/eye contact, breaking the touch barrier, and escalation it’s a balance of push and pull. The fact that you’re asking this shows you don’t have any experience in this and that’s why most of yall are struggling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:34 PM
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That’s not the same thing as a nice guy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:22 PM
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When did I say being a nice guy works?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:22 PM
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Yeah exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:21 PM
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Congrats. I don’t think it’s going to fix your issues in your personal life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:30 PM
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It’s not obvious tho. There are men who refuse to put in the work to improve themselves yet think some woman is going to come along and fix all of their problems
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:29 PM
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Nice guys are men who acts superficially kind to gain romantic or sexual favor, becoming resentful or hostile when rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:28 PM
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Then improve your looks. Unless you have a face deformity 99% of men can dramatically improve their looks by losing weight, lifting in the gym and getting on a good skin care routine. That being said even good looking guys that don’t know seduction struggle with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:27 PM
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Bc angry and irrational people look for someone to validate their victim hood and give them a focus to target their rage
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:26 PM
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Agreed. They should be locked up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:25 PM
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It’s actually insane how many guys think there’s some culture war or deep state agenda to keep them single when in reality it’s that they either don’t look good enough for the women they want and or lack the social skills and charisma. Instead of introspection they run to anger and finger pointing. And it’s actually kind of scary too the anger that they have towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:24 PM
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So you’re angry that women won’t sleep with you and your response is to double down and project that even further? You understand that’s not going to work right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:23 PM
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Very and it makes you even less attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:22 PM
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The “nice guy” archetype is not getting into relationships or they wouldn’t be complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:22 PM
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Sure but for most nice guys they simply lack the ability to seduce or flirt with women. And a lot of them get angry when you tell them it’s a skill. I’m 31, I learned how to flirt and attract women over the yrs. It’s a skill and a muscle you have to build. It started when I was a teenager. You learn and adapt. There’s no miracle pill to fix all your problems
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:21 PM
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I just told you what the other gender wants. You have to be able to create sexual tension. Being in shape, smelling good, dressing well, not being a pushover or a yes man, remaining mysterious. Yeah works for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:20 PM
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I don’t really think any of that is relevant. The market is what it is. You either adapt or you’ll get eaten
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:19 PM
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I think nice guys are mostly fake
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:51 AM
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Assholes and players aren’t complaining about the women the date
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:08 PM
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That’s good then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:40 PM
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Who told you that? An incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:38 PM
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Only if they’re complaining. A lot of women are very happy dating guys who are assholes and players. The women of this sub love pushing the idea that every woman is just out here looking for a great guy but there’s an endless supply of women who love the bad boy, f boy archetype. My thing is just don’t complain about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:19 PM
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No I’m saying if you don’t like something stop doing it. Same goes for guys. I don’t have sympathy for nice guys who keep getting friendzoned. Definition of insanity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:15 PM
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In the past. Nowadays most dudes will sleep with any woman that breaths on them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:14 PM
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Where do you see me bitching about that? I don’t think you should have sex until you’re ready and most women make men wait for sex when they’re either playing games or not that interested
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:11 PM
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I don’t support Nick Fuentes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:07 PM
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I do agree with this. I don’t want to hear crying from the nice guy crowd. Nothing entitles you to pum pum
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:46 PM
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FYI Im not saying women should do this. It’s only a suggestion for women who complain about these types of men. If you love assholes keep dating them. The logical conclusion would be to stop dating them if they drive you crazy and date other men but apparently I’m crazy for suggesting this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:41 PM
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That part I don’t agree with. I think those guys should adaptn
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:40 PM
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Nice. Im specifically talking to women that date assholes and complain about assholes. I don’t care fi the crying or complaints of men who get angry that other men get more cat than them in this thread. I’ve made other posts calling those guys losers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:08 PM
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The debate is going on with people who have issue with what I said. I don’t understand why you don’t simply scroll past posts you don’t like and feel pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:48 PM
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If you keep going to a casino and fall for the lie that you’ll make a lot of money is that on the casino or you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:48 PM
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Might be a generational gap then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:46 PM
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My entire post is advice for women who complain about assholes. I’m not telling women to stop dating assholes in general, I’m saying if you don’t like them stop dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:43 PM
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Your original comment talked about a girls friends attacking a guy for being aggressive at a bar. That’s not the same thing as my post so idk why you’re playing the obtuse game here. You equated the two. I never defended that type of behavior ma
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:41 PM
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Except that I have multiple posts arguing with aspects that I agree with from blue pill and red pill. You’re choosing to pick the posts you don’t like and then claiming that’s all I believe
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:39 PM
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I never disputed that. Manipulation is a part of dating. My issue is yall not distinguishing levels to it. Someone being manipulative and playing multiple women is nowhere near the same intensity as a serial killer. Same goes for women who scam men for free meals and drinks it’s not that bad. Idk if you’re trying to hit me with a gotcha but I feel as if the dating market should operate like a free market. I have no issue with women getting over on men( as long as it’s legal). Men should be smart…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:36 PM
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No you’re equating being an asshole to committing assault. Some guy ghosting you bc he’s no longer interested and some guy attacking you bc he’s horny and wants sex is two wildly differnt realms. One is an asshole, the other is a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:34 PM
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Well I hope you don’t date anyone. Aren’t you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:30 PM
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When
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:30 PM
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You’re conflating being simply an asshole with straight up assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:27 PM
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I just gave you my answer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:26 PM
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Most men lack social skills so there’s very few that can
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:26 PM
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If that were true assholes wouldn’t still be getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:12 PM
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And I’m just saying if ppl want different outcomes they should change their behavior. I don’t think it should or shouldn’t be done. I’m just giving a suggestion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:12 PM
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Both sides lied. Very rarely are both sides completely honest in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:11 PM
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Assuming that someone is red pill bc they don’t agree with you is wild
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:11 PM
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I’m not offended I’m simply saying if you want differnt men stop dating assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:10 PM
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Bc that’s two different topics. I’m not lying about sex. Deception plays a role in flirting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:04 PM
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Why would I get my ass kicked? Again being an asshole does not equate to SA. Idk why you all keep doing this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:03 PM
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Bc there’s not many female incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:02 PM
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Oh ok
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:01 PM
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They don’t have to. I don’t want kids. I don’t blame any woman who doesn’t want kids. Childbirth sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:01 PM
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Where did I say by any means necessary? YAll do a good job of trying to insinuate SA
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:01 PM
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Women lie all the time. Do you not realize that just like there are asshole men, there are asshole women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:00 PM
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Like idk why this is such a tough thing. If you operate in this world with an entitlement towards or favoring you or being kind towards you you will get screwed. You need to learn from the mistakes you make to do better in life
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:59 PM
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I dont think the world owes you or me understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:59 PM
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I said that in my post. Did you read what I wrote? I said most men aren’t assholes but assholes and players tend to keep getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:58 PM
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Except that explicitly said that these women see the signs and go along with it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:56 PM
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I haven’t had any bad reviews so far. I have dealt with a lot of women who are trash in bed tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:56 PM
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And women don’t lie? You know how many women just stop caring about their appearance in dating or mannerisms and start getting lazy? Yall love to point the finger but never look in the mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:54 PM
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Well I don’t support white nationalists and neither do most men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:52 PM
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You seemed to be offended by my post
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:52 PM
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Why don’t women just be honest up front about their intentions as well? Why play the game where you string people along for free dates and attention
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:51 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:50 PM
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If you read my post you’d see that that’s what I’m saying. And I even call myself an asshole to a degree so I don’t think it’s a bad thing just think it is what it is and if women want change they shouldn’t sleep with or date those men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:50 PM
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This isn’t about improving society. Most men don’t act this way. We’re talking about a select group of men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:34 PM
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This has nothing to do with morality. Morality is subjective. Idc if my morality conflicts with someone else as long as no laws are broken
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:29 PM
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Nope. Men are responsible for their own actions and women’s actions. Women get the best of both worlds
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:28 PM
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You’re completely to blame if you continue to date the same type of people. Just like I completely blame simps who keep getting played
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:27 PM
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I never said assholes and players were abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:22 PM
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It’s a compliment to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:22 PM
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I never said that physical attraction doesn’t matter. But idk if you’re new here we cannot post about purely looks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:21 PM
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So men are looking up to the type of men that sleep with tons of women? Thanks for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:21 PM
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That’s not being an asshole that’s just assault and I didn’t say being an asshole alone gets you women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:20 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:20 PM
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If being a nice guy made men more attractive assholes would switch up tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:20 PM
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Who said I dislike them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:19 PM
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All men aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:19 PM
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So is that a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:19 PM
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Deceit is used by both men and women when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:18 PM
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Bc this is Reddit. Someone can observe the sky being blue and an army of people will swarm and say it’s pink. I already explained that these asshole tendencies work for me and others so I’m not looking for Reddit to confirm what I already know to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:18 PM
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If I were going off rom coms I would be advocating for simping
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:15 PM
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If you continue to fall for the same patterns that’s on you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:05 PM
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Not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:04 PM
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I acknowledged that in my post. Did you not read it all? Also I’m fine being called an asshole it’s literally a compliment. It means I put myself first and don’t take bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:59 PM
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You responded to me and said men who believe this. Idk why so many people on here assume that everyone is either a far right nut job or a blue haired feminazi
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:58 PM
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Back to the obtuse part
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:58 PM
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No it isn’t it’s specifically talking about men who women claim to hate who continue to get laid. In fact I gave myself as an example of not being a player but having some traits of asshole in me. Reading is a virtue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:57 PM
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Yep bc there’s very little accountability from other women and just enough of an army of simp men to defend them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:56 PM
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No bc I don’t use techniques or strategies. I simply operate in my dating life in a laid back matter that puts me first. For example if I match with a woman on hinge and I ask her for drinks and she says she doesn’t do drinks I’ll unmatch. If I’m talking to a girl and it’s 3-4 dates in and we haven’t hooked up and she doesn’t want to hang at my place or hers I’ll move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:55 PM
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That’s an insane stretch. Me not answering your text back quickly and being non chalant and then being perceived as an asshole isn’t coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:54 PM
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If it works for him he’s going to keep doing it bc he gets validation from women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:53 PM
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They don’t blame themselves. They blame men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:52 PM
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That too. A good amount do tell women what they’re going to do and women know they’re horrible men yet somehow that guy keeps getting a circus of pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:52 PM
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Idk why everyone behaves so obtuse on here. If I’m flirting wit a woman there’s a sexual tension build up with us both flirting without us saying verbatim “we want to fuck”. Am I lying by saying “let’s go to my place and kick it” and she smiled back and agrees. It’s heavily implied they were both horny for one another but we’re not explicitly saying it. Thays seduction. No one just comes up and says “hey I’m John I’m going to spend the next few weeks talking to you to hopefully get in your pants…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:51 PM
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Congrats we’re not talking about you. We’re talking about a collective. Personalizing a debate about a population group makes little sense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:49 PM
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When did I say feminists hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:48 PM
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I’m talking about the unsuccessful men who complain about those men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:48 PM
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Women are attracted to them so they should blame themselves for liking it. Would you blame a lion if you kept jumping in its cage?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:47 PM
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No they parents if you keep falling in a trap when you know it’s there that’s on you. There are women who aren’t attracted to assholes but the majority are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:44 PM
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Seduction includes deceit. And morality is subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:44 PM
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Mam great personality includes being nice and warm. I just gave you the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:43 PM
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They don’t need to be criticized they’re doing what works for them. The guys that complain about their success are losers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:43 PM
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Men literally call out men for simping and for getting themselves played wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:42 PM
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That’s not the same thing as a great personality. I just gave you the definition. Seduction and being nice aren’t the same thing. That’s why blue pill advice is horrible
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:41 PM
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No it’s 100% true. Men are the pursuers. We do what will get us laid. It’s really that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:41 PM
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Yep. I think wisdom comes from all aspects pick and choose which works. Just going down one path will not work
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:35 PM
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How do you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:34 PM
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Don’t have to we’re speaking in generalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:28 PM
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This is spot on. I don’t agree with the red pill but the guys who seek out that advice and end relationships were already in relationships that had problems. The RP simply gave them a justification for this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:28 PM
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A great personality from Websters includes “a combination of positive, engaging, and admirable traits—such as warmth, kindness, confidence, and authenticity—that make someone pleasant and comfortable to be around.”. That has nothing to do with seduction. You could be the meanest person in town and still get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:26 PM
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I didn’t. The fact that I specifically gave flowers to the honest characters of the Manosphere would infer that I don’t agree with the community as a whole just some aspects of it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:24 PM
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I don’t deal with “not all” and other exceptions to the rule. If we’re debating generalities “not all” isn’t relevant to me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:23 PM
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I’m not shaming anyone. I’m pointing out a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:23 PM
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They always find ways to deflect bc the brutal truths. Most guys today are obese and have low self esteem’s. Telling guys to lose weight and gain confidence on that will help a large swath of the population. You don’t need to psychoanalyze every man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:22 PM
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The manosphere argument for working out is that women will simply see you as more attractive idk what you’re going on about. And being yourself is vague and doesn’t delve into the problems. Yourself is a flawed individual and needs refining
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:20 PM
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Did I say red pill advice works?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:18 PM
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That’s why it’s really impossible to have honest discussions at times with people here bc of engagement like that. She knows exactly what is being referenced and she knows it’s not literally referring to women as objects but being obtuse and pontificating on that helps to distract from the core issue so she’s running with it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:17 PM
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The very fact that blue pill and pink pill can come into male subs and debate and not get muted or kicked out disproves her entire post
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:05 PM
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Idk what that means
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:03 PM
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Karma for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:03 PM
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Yeah a lot of guys are awful with communication and then get angry when women don’t give them everything they want
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:05 AM
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A good personality has nothing to do with getting laid. Some of the worst men beings to ever walk this earth have gotten consistently laid. Seduction is a different thing than friendship and commrodary
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:26 AM
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I agree with that. I think elements of both work
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:47 AM
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Most chads don’t really follow that tho. They do whatever they want. Women put up the blue pill rules for simps they can settle down with after fucking around
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:47 AM
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Developing social skills is vague bc they doesn’t entail much. I think social skills should be developed so you know how to seduce a woman and be comfortable in a crowd. Most blue pill social skills advice is usually just “put yourself out there” or “make more friends”. Not really any advice with direction just vague platitudes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:46 AM
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It’s funny all the blue pill men are in the comments proving my point. The don’t have any actual tangible advice. Just stupid platitudes and tropes. Most of them are in relationships where they kiss a woman’s feet in hopes she’ll put out once or twice a month
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:43 AM
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But I specifically said the manosphere people I find honest. My post isn’t claiming that I agree with the manosphere I’m simply stating that it wouldn’t exist if blue pill advice were helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:51 PM
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I don’t even agree with the manosphere as a whole I think some of the advice makes sense but overall I do think it becomes a regressive circle cesspool of complaining about women. But I also don’t think blue pill advice is amazing either. I think truth comes form taking aspects from all regions and finding something in the middle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:50 PM
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The most obese and unattractive of women still have men looking for them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:07 PM
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I don’t think traditional lifestyle works
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:07 PM
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Sir the overwhelming majority of Americans don’t get in shape, work hard or take care of their hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:52 PM
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Most of them went too far. Even the me too founders have started to say this shit has gone too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:51 PM
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It’s bc dating shows the hypocrisy of a lot of women and the games that are played. If you don’t have much experience with women and see that they’re not gods gift to earth they’re simply humans with good and evil in them just like men, you’ll constantly pedestals and simp for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:50 PM
1

Tv literally pushes forward how we socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:39 PM
-1

How is social media not real life when the majority of dating age people are on it half the day?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:48 PM
-1

Blue pill men are masters of red herrings and deflections. They’ll claim it’s not happening even if the evidence is in their face
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:47 PM
-1

All over social media. Idk why yall love responding as if it doesn’t happen. Just bc you don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:46 PM
0

They’re only angry bc the men they actually want are playing them left and right. A good looking guy can easily run multiple rotations without leaving his house nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:45 PM
2

Did I say you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:59 PM
2

Yeah I mean if you don’t know what an analogy is that’s on you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:38 PM
1

Couldn’t you also just not read this post if you don’t like it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:37 PM
0

No need for personal attack. Also I didn’t say that. I said their dream guy. That’s not the same thing as conventionally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:41 AM
2

Great point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:59 AM
-4

So your friends always tell you the truth? How would you know
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:58 AM
1

In contrast to your vague drivel?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:58 AM
-5

Your friends could easily lie to you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:58 PM
0

Why would a matchmaker be reflective of the opinions of the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:57 PM
0

Anyone debating population studies and observations understands that this is being dealt with in generalities and it won’t work for everyone. Like if you want to argue “not all” then you shouldn’t even be on Reddit bc every sub is debating based on general observations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:57 PM
1

Nice. Did you read anything else that was said or did you just pontificate on that one point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:54 PM
8

Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:09 PM
1

Never said this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:08 PM
0

They want the guy of their dreams who 500 other women like to choose them and simp for them. It’s a weird fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:08 PM
1

Getting a hookup at a bar as an average guy is way harder than on tinder or a dating app
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:12 PM
6

I think a lot of young men get their perception on ideal dating from tv shows bc this 2kids and a white picket fence fantasy isn’t ideal for most people anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:35 PM
2

I already put that caveat that you need good pictures and should look good. I don’t think guys should even be dating if they’re not in at least decent shape
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:28 PM
2

My post is about an observation I’ve had that many other guys have also agreed with in these comments. You respond with “oh not all, doesn’t mean it won’t work for everyone” is literally not adding to this conversation you’re just being a contrarian. Of course not all I don’t know every person on earth. I’m simply using my observations and coming to a conclusion. How does you saying “not all” contribute to a conversation about generalities
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:31 AM
3

Getting numbers doesn’t mean much man no offense. I’m judging success by hookups and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:29 AM
2

I’m 32 when I was younger I think clubs were better but now they’re kind of a drag
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:28 AM
1

Going out with friends and going to a night club to get women are two separate events. Women don’t have nights to specifically go and get men bc they don’t have to. All my post is about is limiting the amount of times going out to do that. I think if you have decent picks and are in solid shape you can do well enough on apps to where the night club and bar scene can be retired. If I go out now to a bar it’s mostly just to chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:28 AM
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Exactly. Idk why this guy is trying to act like it’s anything else. It’s late at night and you stand in long lines. Who’s doing that just to bond with friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:26 AM
3

Just have game night with my friends. Cheaper to buy booze from store
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:24 AM
2

Honestly I think clubs have gotten worse. I’m 32 but when I was 17/18 I used to go to clubs and bars early college yrs with fakes and the vibe was way more fun. Now it seems like no one really dances and the women are far more stuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:24 AM
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Yep. And it’s gotten worse than when I was younger. Hs and early college Instagram wasn’t that big and dating apps weren’t really a thing but now girls get so much attention online that they’re solely in night clubs to get simps to dance for them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:22 AM
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Mam no offense but you’re a woman. You don’t have to do anything to have options. You walk outside and there’s options. The vast majority of men will never know that reality so we have to go out and pursue women. All of your romantic relationships came from men pursuing you. You don’t have to actively engage to initiate them. Also At no point did I say I don’t hang out with my friends. I’m simply saying I don’t go out clubbing to pursue women anymore. Reading is paramount
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:19 PM
2

Nice! (Felt need to continue the loop)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:17 PM
4

Mam I’ve been to hundreds of bars all across the world and worked as a bartender. 1. Idk why you’re personalizing this when this is a generality 2. Free drinks are 99.9% of the time coming from men who buy drinks for women to try and sleep with them or get their number or dance with them. Bars and clubs aren’t just letting in women and giving away expensive alcohol bc the think you look cute in your new skirt 3. I never said it was an issue I’m just pointing out a reality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:56 PM
8

I didn’t say anything about the what works I said what’s time efficient. What up with blue pill guys simply coming on here to be contrarians?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:40 PM
3

I hope none of that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:39 PM
3

Idk why you’re personalizing it. I’ve never bought girls drinks. I just walk up and talk to them. Usually if they ask to buy drinks they’re not interested. On average men go to pick up women and women go to get free drinks. That’s how the business model works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:39 PM
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Right. Like idek what he’s talking about. Most guys are there to get laid. Theres literal industries based on picking up women in the club. Unfortunately drunk weirdos ruin it for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:21 PM
1

Yeah but that’s back to my point about. Women are only there to get free drinks. Guys are there to get numbers and laid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:19 PM
2

Im talking mostly about clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:18 PM
7

Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:17 PM
3

More than dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:36 PM
3

Most women and men agree that men are there to get laid. That’s why guys complain about women at the clubs being closed off and women complain about men being raunchy stop lying dude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:35 PM
3

Women only have those rules for guys they don’t find attractive. The whole point of clubbing is for guys to find which women is attractive and click and for women to stand around and get free drinks and attention
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:34 PM
7

Yeah I can do that at my apartment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:33 PM
11

That’s a woman thing. Most guys are there to find women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:26 PM
9

I’m 5’8 and in good shape. I get a good amount of matches on hinge. I don’t think you need to be a world beater just have good pics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:25 PM
2

I’m including hookups in this too. I just think it’s way more effort
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:24 PM
3

Why do you keep saying it’s all about feelings like this is a rom com? Genuine desire comes from compatibility and sacrifice. If someone genuinely wants to keep a relationship strong they’ll work with you around your desires
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:21 PM
4

It’s not. It’s something that requires work. So you have to get to know your partner and work towards something that makes both sides happy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:20 PM
9

Marriage has varied greatly by culture and region throughout those thousands of yrs. what’s changed is that women now have the option to not get with a man just out of need. Idek why you’d want someone that doesn’t truly desire you? I’ve broken up with women who I felt as if didn’t want me for genuine reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:19 PM
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That’s just not true. You constantly hear women complaining about the lack of good men and how rare good men are. The difference is now they have the option to sift thru the men and choose. Same goes for the men. You have the option to sift thru your options. I ended a relationship bc I felt as if I was being treated as a second option. Yrs ago we’d be matched up no matter what we wanted even if we weren’t that into each other. Want brings greater options and fulfillment than need
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:17 PM
2

Yep. And that’s what angers them. They were raised to believe that lie about their role in society and how women should behave and since it’s not playing out the way they were told they’re facing an existential crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:16 PM
2

Well that’s why I said it’s about character and traits. Looks fade, who you are character wise is what keeps the relationship going. I never said the grounding of the relationship was based on fleeting feelings. You want to continue being with this person bc they give you something that makes you feel fulfilled. As opposed to needing them to survive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:15 PM
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You’re conflating multiple points. Genuine love and desire doesn’t come from need it comes from a want. A man needing a woman to fulfill something for him and vice versa isn’t the same level of genuine relationship as them wanting to get together. A man wanting a wife and 3 kids is different than him needing that to feel fulfilled
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:13 PM
8

For both men and women it’s a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:12 PM
1

I’m not a woman. And net doesn’t mean anything when there’s massive intergenerational differences in your analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:09 PM
3

I agree. Single and happy should be your default as a man. You shouldn’t need a woman to be happy. Learn to be single and happy and then find someone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:08 PM
4

Who said that? My post isn’t only about looks. Looks doesn’t carry a marriage. It’s the spark that gets things going and is important but your character and traits is what keeps a healthy bond
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:54 PM
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What are you talking about? Your personality traits and your character is what keeps the love going in a relationship. That falls under wants. Most women prefer traits that match with them rather than just someone to help pay bills
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:53 PM
10

I’d rather be alone than with someone who’s just a roommate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:51 PM
4

You didn’t debunk anything that I said. You then go on to say that men value what a partner brings to a relationship companionship and sex when I said above that women wanting that rather than needing a man for a check is the better way to pair bond. Reading is paramount
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:51 PM
9

That’s not a false dichotomy. I clearly said women needed a provider. If you want a provider that’s different than needing one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:11 PM
8

Yeah I don’t need women I still want them and will date
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:17 PM
13

Well she has a point. If you can only get women when they’re desperate that says a lot more about you than her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:48 PM
19

Bc women will select you bc they want you not bc they need you. Seems pretty straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:47 PM
12

Yep. The relationship was never built on genuine desire
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:47 PM
16

Also if lifting heavy things and protecting from home invaders is the only thing some of these guys offer that says more about how little they bring
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:46 PM
2

Sounds good
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:08 PM
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Pick me is used by most women to refer to women who cater to and go against the dominant culture of “fuck all men” etc. Words change overtime and the current definition isn’t accurate to the times
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:07 PM
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Idk what you mean by simp about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:06 PM
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My point is in the post sir
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:05 PM
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Wouldn’t it be far easier for you to simply ignore my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:05 PM
3

Yep. They’ll call a woman a pick me for not hating men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:26 AM
0

Most of the women here are purposely pulling red herrings to deflect. They do this on every topic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:26 AM
4

That’s my point. Honestly if you’re not one of the I hate all men chicks most guys will automatically like you more
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:25 AM
2

Yes most people put looks before everything else .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:24 AM
1

Pick mes don’t have to be trad wives. I don’t date women that don’t open their wallet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:51 AM
1

Idk if yall are just missing over this but i said in the post that he has to find her attractive. That goes both ways. Women typically get with men they find attractive and if not he has to do a lot of make up for that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:58 PM
1

Yes she does. The men who fit that category. I’m 31 and in great shape why would I settle for that. I still have to maintain my looks just like a woman does lok
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:57 PM
3

Nope. They’re treated well that’s why women hate them. Bc they do well for the man and he does for them. Happy relationships tend to piss off most modern women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:56 PM
2

Pick me women typically do what pisses of women and not men. So your entire diatribe is a contradiction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:55 PM
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I didn’t contribute to my own post…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:40 PM
2

Nope they’re treated well and that positive feedback is why they continue to act that way and it pisses off women who want them to fit a certain mold
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:38 PM
0

There’s 258 comments here clearly ppl don’t think it’s point less. If you don’t agree you’re free to just ignore it. I don’t interact in communities with people who k find discussing topics that aren’t interesting to me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:37 PM
2

Most men don’t care I promise you. As long as you’re cool with us we’re cool. Everything you’re complaining about has to do with women interacting with one another. Men don’t care about that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:35 PM
1

Everyone plays a role. You play a role everyday based on socially accepted norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:27 PM
0

. “If you’re attractive to us” is right there mam
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:26 PM
1

What dos that have to do with me? All of the so called bad traits for pick mes are things women hate. As long as she’s chill with me I’m cool with her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:25 PM
2

There aren’t enough or they’d be married. Or they’re just not attractive and need to lose weight
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:24 PM
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Thanks for contributing to the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:23 PM
4

This is it. Most if not is given by women who have rom com type fantasies and simps. It’s not actual advice it’s just instructions for guys theh find unattractive to move out of the way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:10 PM
1

Men want feminine, cooperative and chill women. Only women are looking for these insane requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:08 PM
4

Most men prefer easy going women so that’s a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:07 PM
0

Well I did say you also have to look good to the man. So does the man find you attractive enough to be with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:07 PM
2

Bc there’s not a lot of pick me women hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:06 PM
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The majority of men in the men’s rights community are incels or angry divorced dudes. First off I’m not any pill so don’t put any label on me. I keep it real and call it how it is. The men in men’s right usually can’t get laid or they’re men who went thru horrible divorces who are pissed at women. They hate pick mes bc pick mes aren’t sleeping with them usually bc they’re not attractive. I never once said pick mes accept any man. I’m describing a scenario where a woman likes a man and her action…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:06 PM
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A pick me would crave validation from me. In fact a pick me would call out women that run around and try to test men by flirting with other men and yall would call her a pick me for being honest about bad female behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:03 PM
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I’m a man speaking to other men in a male dominated space. It’s like if this was an nba sub and you came in and said “oh I don’t care about basketball I love hockey”. Good for you. Why would you go somewhere that you don’t enjoy the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:02 PM
0

Men don’t do that nonsense women do. Most men are simple. If you’re attractive to us and bill well more than likely take your seriously. Women play manipulative games and then get upset when it backfires on them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:01 PM
1

Like I described in the original post most women refer to pick mes as any woman that treats men well. The definition of words has always differed from that of the dictionary. And if she puts down women it’s usually the miserable ones that hate on men so that’s more points in my book
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:59 PM
0

Yep that’s literally a key portion of human psychology. We put on different faces for different people. That’s a key part of the human experience
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:57 PM
1

Every romantic relationship is performative by your definition sir. If a woman married a rich man and he loses his job and begins playing the x box everyday the performance shifts. It’s just so ridiculous how we can’t have honest conversations here bc certain men and a lot of women in this sub love to be okay the obtuse game and distract from the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:55 PM
0

Facts. A chick that’s chill, looks good to me and doesn’t have any kids is a 10 in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:53 PM
2

I only care about what words are used for in popular culture. It’s like the word ironic. 90% of people use irony incorrectly but we let it slide. People are being purposely obtuse in the comments bc throwing in a straw man is easier than having an honest conversation with most women here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:52 PM
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Most women who are called pick mes are simply called pick mes for being feminine and not hating men. The official definition is different than how it’s utilized in daily discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:50 PM
-1

This is my point. Women get called pick mes for simply not wanting to participate in hating men openly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:49 PM
-2

Absolutely. I’m engaged
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:48 PM
-5

Of course not but women do. When women pour into men, most men typically return the favor. Most men are blue pilled to their core to the point where a woman simply being nice and looking half decent would had him on his knees worshipping her. Women on the other hand disrespect men that pour into them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:16 PM
1

A pick me is simply a woman that women hate bc she keeps it real and doesn’t hate men. Most men would call that type of woman a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:14 PM
-3

Yes for men a woman has to be attractive and agreeable. For a woman a man has to be attractive, tall, rich, have style, be confident all the time, never have any bad days, be a side therapist, etc. How dare men want a woman they’re attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:13 PM
1

Most women label any woman that doesn’t hate men a pick me. Pick mes call out bad behavior from women hence why the sister hood hates them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:10 PM
-3

The typical pick me is a happy woman and jealous women get angry and label her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:08 PM
-9

Those are incels who are mad they can’t get laid. I didn’t say men can be straight up losers and get laid. You still need to be worth a fuck to get with the women you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:07 PM
-2

Sounds like a wife material to me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:06 PM
2

“The sort of guy that would prefer a pick me is probably not the kind of guy a non pick me girl would want” Ok so then what’s your issue 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:06 PM
1

Pick mes are only called pick mes by women. Men call these women wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:05 PM
0

Well as a ma you still need to improve yourself. I’m not saying all of a sudden standards should drop and women should tolerate anything. I’m just saying women should behave more like pick mes and men will treat them better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:05 PM
-2

Well I mean you’re responding to a post in a male dominated sub Reddit. If you didn’t care you wouldn’t even be here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:04 PM
0

They’re called that by women who hate to see happy relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:04 PM
0

Being a pick me is acting like her true self. She really wants that guy and the guy treats her well in response
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:03 PM
-2

Yeah except all of the men yall call toxic continue to get flushed with new pum pum. So it doesn’t seem like your vapid threats are close to reality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:03 PM
-1

Pick mes keep it real and that’s why women hate them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:01 PM
-5

A pick me is simply a woman that does everything to favor the guy she likes. Similar to a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:00 PM
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Most men settle for the first woman that will put out consistently and get into marriages where they’re kissing the woman’s ass just to get consistent sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:53 AM
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I don’t see how those are mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:52 AM
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Yep and many of the men cheat as well. They have the means to get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:52 AM
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No I said the stats are disingenuous “my dude”. Literally the premise of my argument is what is qualified as a happy marriage vs a successful one
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:51 AM
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Where did you see me say any of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:54 AM
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Not really. Nowadays you can just have a few side chicks and run a rotation if you’re attractive and have a solid enough job
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:53 AM
6

This is the part that always gets me. We live in a world where people are rich enough to fly private spaceships into orbit and poor enough to not afford a bowl of rice, yet for some reason blue pillars push this bs as if the dating world is sunshine and rainbows and women are these docile creatures just waiting for a good guy. The dating world is vicious and women are often far more vicious towards men than vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:36 AM
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No that’s for men that women actually lust after. Women love to talk about the top tier of men as if they’re the average. A man that a woman actually desires can get away with anything. Rules only exist for the guy she’s somewhat attracted to who has to build attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:33 AM
8

All of the rules and platitudes go out the window when a woman actually likes you. You’ll see her bending over backwards and rubbing your feet just to get your attention
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:32 AM
4

Oh yeah a classic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:31 AM
3

Most women don’t. Most women want men to lead
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:30 AM
0

ATP hire a life coach sir. Idk why you’re hyper focusing on individualized advise when general advise has been shown to work for the masses in various other areas
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:30 AM
8

The best advice I ever got was in my mid 20s to level up my fitness and dress better, be more stoic, and less reactive with women. Random YouTube videos by strangers drastically improved my dating life. Nobody is asking for a life coach
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:28 AM
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Yep. Back when I was in my early 20s that’s the bs advice I used to hear. Especially since I was still religious they’d use the old excuse about “oh wait on gods timing”. No actual strategies, no gameplan no methods. Essentially sit around and hope that you bump into some woman. And then if that does happen you have to kiss her ass the rest of your life bc you’re just lucky to see a chick
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:27 AM
5

Only 20% of marriages the couple has sex at least once a week. Most people are basically roommates with the wife running the show and the man a whipped dog
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:18 AM
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Most of these people think a “happy marriage” is one where the man has to escape to his man cave every night to not deal with his insane wife and they haven’t had physical contact in yrs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:16 AM
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I don’t agree with that bc the blue pill ideology is pretty clearly defined. Blue pill is more of the default and the various pills argue against it to varying degrees
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:38 PM
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No one side stepped anything. Most guys who understand the reality of dating don’t have a dream girl and don’t run around with an insane checklist. Usually she’s attractive, chill and on your program she’s good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:36 PM
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Even the way how you’re speaking is a soft and concerned about the feelings of men. The average man was 16% bf 60 yrs ago. Now it’s 29%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:35 PM
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So blue pill agrees with the mainstream view of relationships. Sounds like what I just said
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:34 PM
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That’s not misogyny. Choosing to want to be the one who is less invested in the relationship could work for every type of relationship. In most relationships the women has the leg up so is that not misandry? You have a pretty rose colored view of the world. Most relationships are imbalanced I choose to put the balance in my favor. Doesn’t mean I hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:33 PM
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Bc millions of men have come together and realized they’ve gotten similar advice and that advice is given a label. Of course some aspects differ but the core elements are consistent Seems pretty straight forward tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:27 PM
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Blue pill is the mainstream beliefs pushed towards men that relies on centering women, emasculation and deemphasis of physical fitness. Purple pill takes elements of both red pill and blue pill and makes it a more amenable way to operate rather than falling for either extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:26 PM
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Ignoring your physique and just dressing better alone will not improve your outcomes. Not taking care of your physical fitness into your 20s and 30s will outwardly age you. Obese men can easily look 15+ yrs older than they actually are with greater hair loss and deformities bc of poor diet and exercise. Blue pill just looks for shortcuts and doesn’t want to hurt feelings an cut at the core issues
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:25 PM
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Blue pill is the default rhetoric that guys are given as dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:23 PM
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A ll of that is blue pill advice. Blue pill advice is the typical cliche rom come bs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:22 PM
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Men don’t walk around with the idea of a dream girl. Women run around with that fantasy. One thing I agree with the red pill is taking off the rose colored lens and looking at the world objectively. Hunting this dream guy is als why a lot of women are miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:21 PM
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Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you’re in a happy one. Most men are in marriages that they hide from their wives
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:20 PM
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Sir I don’t have to provide you with examples in the initial post I’m not trying to write an essay. It’s a debate sub
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:19 PM
3

In relationship. Whether you can take the keys or you’re a bus rider
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:17 PM
5

Someone always has the leg up whether you like it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:50 PM
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I think those traits help but most men are fat and broke and fixing that is the clearest path towards improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:50 PM
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2 weeks is not too often for a haircut. And grown men in 2026 are not walking around with mullets. An man keeping his appearance well groomed improves their SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:49 PM
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Idk what you’re talking about. I didn’t mention a specific woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:48 PM
3

Both men and women would do better if they lost weight
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:48 PM
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Relationships are power struggles. And blue pill advice does the same it just hands the power to the women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:48 PM
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Agreed. If you’re more stoic, non chalant and easy going. Kissing her ass makes you come off as needy. Hence why blue pill advice is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:44 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:43 PM
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Men operate more on what has proven to work for most guys and then replicate that. The whole vague shit is a differnt discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:43 PM
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No you’re purposefully lying. One of the core disagreements between blue and red pill is the importance of looks with red pill advice being much harsher on the appearance of men. Most red pillers would tell you you need to be sub 15% body fat and get a haircut every two weeks and be groomed well. Thays not BP advice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:41 PM
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I’m talking about guys. Fat women get laid all the time. That’s not shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:40 PM
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Blue pill advice mostly focuses on “improvements” that they believe caters to the women. Very little of it is actually self development.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:40 PM
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Blue pill guys in particular on here are the nastiest
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:39 PM
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Yep and women will lie but be sneaky nasty about things. Every female friend group has a fat fried that’s always there to make the rest of the group look better. I had an ex who I called out about that until she finally admitted it. Shit is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:38 PM
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Thays not blue pill advice. Idk what you’re talking about. Blue pill deemphasizes the importance of looks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:36 PM
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Women will find you more attractive if you look better
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:35 PM
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Most men already know what bad blue pill advice is that’s why they’re in these subs. I don’t know why I have to spoon feed it to you but here: believing that simply being "nice" guarantees romantic success, suppressing all masculine emotions, or ignoring red flags in relationships, just be yourself, personality is all that matters,
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:34 PM
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Going to the gym and eating less will produce results
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:33 PM
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Ignore her past, give big romantic gestures, suppress your masculine energy, wait on her timing etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:33 PM
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Telling a man to lose weight, get in the gym, groom himself better, get a better job and learn how to flirt is actual tangible advice that can improve dating for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:31 PM
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I agree with that. But I do think fitness, dominance and money are the biggest skills that men lack
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:30 PM
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Blue pill advice is about getting backdoored by the world while sitting around with blinders on
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:29 PM
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Blue pill advice is mostly tailored towards kissing a woman’s ass
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:29 PM
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Everyone will not tell you that. The majority of women and blue pill men will lie to their fat friends about how much fitness affects your dating life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:29 PM
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Yep. They never respond
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:32 PM
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It’s not my fault you’re struggling with a simple concept
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:30 PM
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That’s not a long term relationship. A long term relationship is at least 2 yrs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:43 PM
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You wrote a whole lot of yap and projected your own insecurities. Nobody is living thru anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:43 PM
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They started hooking up last September that’s not a long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:42 PM
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The funniest part of the story is Klay probably didn’t even cheat. From reading over the story it sound like he just didn’t want to move forward in a relationship with her and she got pissed. The way she reacted trashing him on Instagram reaffirmed his decision to move on too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:41 PM
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From a billionaire?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:00 PM
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No one said she needs him. The argument was could she find another jay z. Jay z can find hundreds of women hotter than her in one night
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:59 AM
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Mam they were together for a few months. There was nothing serious going on
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:58 AM
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Lmao whatever helps you sleep at night pal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:58 AM
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He had a fling. He didn’t marry her lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:33 AM
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Men don’t care about that. Looks is about the bulk of it for guys. And personality the rest. Her status means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:33 AM
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When did he commit to her? Did he propose or get married to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:32 AM
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She isn’t rare in the eyes of men tho. Especially wealthy men. Her looks isn’t enough to make guys snap their heads
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:31 AM
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Her options are limited. She’s worth 40 million and yet wants to get with most men on her level and higher. Women date hypergamously. Klay could down to cvs tomorrow find a more attractive woman and put her on. Meg can’t do that. Men don’t care about your status or money especially high value men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:59 AM
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Her body not being attractive is a lie. You must be in to scrawny women. Face I’ll give you is average
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:26 AM
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Yep. He had his fun and then pumped and dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:26 AM
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How does cheating make him insecure? He probably just wanted to smash other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:17 AM
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Shallow according to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:16 AM
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To commit to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:16 AM
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She’s had tons of boyfriends in the past what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:16 AM
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She’s not ugly. I’d say her face is averagish and her body an 8 or 9. But I do agree he could find anyone. Heck he doesn’t even have to leave his house. My younger cousin is a WR at an SEC school and he has thousands of women dming him. Imagine how much an nba HOFer gets
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:15 AM
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My rumen has nothing to do with advice. I’m not trying to convince women or men to change their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:34 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:24 PM
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Can’t be used. You allow it to happen or you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:37 PM
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You can’t get into any relationship without risk. If not just stay celibate and be alone. Isn’t that what most MGTOW guys are doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:25 PM
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And in this the woman viewed the man as a means to her end. She wanted something that he didn’t and she assumed sex would get her there. It didn’t work and now she’s pissed. The world doesn’t owe you understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:24 PM
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No I’m simply keeping the argument consistent. I don’t think men who get finessed by women facially should be given a bunch of sympathy either. They should be smarter. Dating comes with risks. Be on your A game and don’t fall for tricks and you’ll be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:24 PM
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No I’m simply using the word (no pun intended) that most women use.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:20 PM
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Yes. I don’t think anyone can use me as a man for my own money. It’s on me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:52 PM
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In the one where someone had to get up and work for that money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:51 PM
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I just love how yall use these buzz words and catch phrases that are all vogue and open ended up somehow lead to you insinuating SA. It’s like accountability is something you’re immune to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:51 PM
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That comes down to your discernment of character then
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:45 PM
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Well that’s on her discernment. What if her sex was trash and he decided to dip bc of that? Would he not feel used as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:44 PM
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Deception is a part of seduction. If a man revealed everything about himself the woman would lose attraction. Now again as long as it’s within legal bounds sure. But what exactly could he be lying to you about? Promising a relationship or love bombing? That’s on you if you’re falling for that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:43 PM
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Exactly. They’re the ones who chose this womens liberation and sexual freedom path. But for some reason women believe with great power it’s still someone else responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:41 PM
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They want to play this double edged game where they can relinquish consent if everything doesn’t go according to plans the reality is a lot of women offer little after sex and that’s why they’re ignored after sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:40 PM
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Where did I say any of what you just claimed? I don’t date women who are virgins bc I prefer experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:39 PM
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If you’re going after men who don’t want you back and angry about it then yess your ego is gassed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:38 PM
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You’re not using someone’s body. Both engaged in an act that was meant to please both. You all play this game where you’re pro women’s liberation and sexual freedom but all the consequences fall on the men still. And no it’s not just about food. People get up and work for their money. Too many of yall live in lala land where men’s money is disposable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:37 PM
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Yeah you sound like your read a catalog from the 1950s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:23 PM
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Pretending you’re interested in someone to get free meals is worse. Nearly 40% of women have admitted to doing this and the real number is probably higher
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:09 PM
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Nope. As long as a crime wasn’t committed it’s in bounds
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:08 PM
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No it’s not mam. You are insinuating SA. As long as someone didn’t break any laws whatever they tell you is within bounds. He could very well change his mind about a relationship after having sex with you. Maybe he didn’t enjoy it. You’re not owed anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:08 PM
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You can do a carfax on the history of a vehicle and there’s a return window for a vehicle. You have no idea whether sex will be fulfilling everytime you have it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:06 PM
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If both sides have consented and there isn’t an illegal coercion going on then you cannot be used for sex. Just bc you dreamed about being in a loving marriage with this guy doesn’t mean he owes you a relationship. This is pretty straight forward
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:38 PM
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No you’re not the woman is giving up her body in exchange for cash. Do you not understand what prostitution is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:36 PM
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Like I’ve said in multiple comments this is all being assumed within the legal realm. As a crime wasn’t broken the man doesn’t owe the woman anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:35 PM
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Yeah that was the case years ago. And it’s women not men who changed this. Sex is more casual bc of women not men. Men understood they had to simp for sex before. Now you don’t. You just have to become a desirable man and you can get tons of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:34 PM
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Get your rocks off simply means sex. It doesn’t mean it’ll be enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:33 PM
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So then what’s your complaint?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:32 PM
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How does having sex with someone indicate you’ll be great in a relationship. Just bc you gave it up and you expected a relationship doesn’t mean that he owes you one. It’s pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:32 PM
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No you’re wrong. It a man and woman commit sex and both want it you cannot retroactively complain bc you thought you’d get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:31 PM
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I don’t think they used them. Women consistently say the friendzone is fake and men should get over it when women finesse them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:30 PM
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Bc she consented to it. If she didn’t she wouldn’t have. It’s pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:29 PM
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Exactly. Men throwing away tons of money on dates or being deceived by women is often laughed about or ignored. But when a woman doesn’t get the dream relationship she wanted now the man is a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:29 PM
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Again another awful analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:27 PM
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Then don’t have sex. But in this scenario the woman chose to have sex with the man. She made her choice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:27 PM
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Age isn’t an excuse. Just like I wouldn’t excuse a man who gets fleeced by a woman he tried to impress. You consented you chose to stay. Time to grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:26 PM
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Do you think a woman uses a man if she agrees to go on a date and is no longer interested even if he spent a lot of money? No one can use you as long as you’re consenting and agreeing to something. Everything after that is a privilege and a plus not a mandate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:39 PM
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No. Relationship isn’t guaranteed. That’s like a guy expecting sex just bc he took women on fancy dates
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:38 PM
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Doesn’t mean she wasn’t pleasured.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:37 PM
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It’s not being used if she also wanted to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:10 PM
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Women seem to only care about what they want and have little regard for the concerns of men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:09 PM
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I just did. You weren’t being used. You wanted sex and he wanted sex. If you were used it would have to be against your consent. You both engaged in a mutual exchange. It’s not like the guy took her money after weeks of promises. That’s being used
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:08 PM
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Your questions are irrelevant. The woman should use discernment to know better if that’s what she wanted. In addition me are allowed to change their mind. Having sex with a woman isn’t some unbreakable vow for an LTR. Maybe the sex with her was trash and everything about her got worse from their on out. Relationships are privileges not rights
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:04 PM
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If it’s not something like an STI or your identity than no laws have been broken and consent was given nice try tho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:02 PM
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You can feel however you want. Doesn’t mean it’s a reality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:02 PM
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It doesn’t matter. In this instance she had sex and she enjoyed it. Just like him. Anything else is additional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:00 PM
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Nope this is wrong. In sex both the woman and the men get physical pleasure. Your analogy is horrible. A correct analogy would be I work for you and you pay me every 2 weeks but then you fire me randomly one day. We both got what we wanted and even tho I expected a consistent job that was never a guarantee
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:58 PM
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No that’s on them. You should’ve known better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:57 PM
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The man and woman both got sex. They both wanted sex. The women wanted more and he didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:56 PM
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That’s an awful analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:55 PM
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The woman wouldn’t have sez unless she wanted to as well. If she’s having sex with men bc she thinks it’ll guarantee her a relationship than she has self esteem issues
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:55 PM
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So what. That’s on her
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:54 PM
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Both men and women enjoy sex. It’s not possible to use a woman for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:33 PM
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How could she be used for sex? Sex is a mutual exchange between two Individuals .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:33 PM
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Nothing in post has anything to do with your first paragraph. Two idk where you’ve gotten this assumption bc most of the manosphere communities are more critical of men than women. Lastly nothing about the post gives guidance to what people should be doing. I never stated the world should be a certain way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:13 AM
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So you think that men in the past when rates of DV and SA in sexual relationships was higher, made better partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:11 AM
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Where do you see me trying to create any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:10 AM
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I don’t understand how that’s a rebuttal to what was said above? Women don’t care about the vast majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:10 AM
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I didn’t say it would be a selling point or that it should be. Everything argued above is just an observation of how people operate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:08 AM
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Do you see any complaints in the post or observations?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:06 AM
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Didn’t say anything was wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:05 AM
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And yet only a fraction would be offering relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:04 AM
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Most of the men pursuing women are invisible to them so that’s not really relevant to this. Women don’t care that they have tons of options they want the best option even if they have tons of options who are on their level
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:48 PM
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Has nothing to do with my standards. If you have an expectation and you continually don’t get that result in life, the problem is you. Either you need to improve yourself or you need to lower your expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:47 PM
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Who has said this tho? I don’t think shaming works for anyone man or woman. My post is simply an observation about a population study. I believe dating should operate in a free market without interference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:46 PM
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But they’re not that’s the issue. Like I highlighted in the post, women are complaining about the quality of their dating options. This is a direct correlation to their delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:45 PM
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No most men are simply more self aware. Men from an early age learn about rejection and face it head on and learn to be realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:42 PM
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Broken up with isn’t a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:41 PM
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That’s where the bulk of dating frustration for women comes from as well. Woman massively overinflates her market value for relationship with specific guy when he only wanted her for sex and now she’s angry. That’s the basis of what I’m arguing. Self awareness is lacking fo a lot of women in these scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:37 PM
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Thats simply not true. What demand is in the context of this is relative. Demand for sex sure there’s more men who want that than women, demand for relationships that relative My entire premise is about awareness. I’m not looking to debate why it is. The argument is womens response to stimuli and how they choose to react to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:30 PM
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Uh abortion rights have started to be rolled back by the courts so I’m not sure what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:27 AM
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False accusations are a legitimate issue tho. I just don’t think it’s to the same degree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:41 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:13 PM
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You don’t need a woman to live a fulfilling life and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:22 PM
3

I think getting to a point where you don’t need women is empowering
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:41 PM
3

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:21 PM
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As someone who used to go to clubs and bars every weekend I promise you the ROI is low. You’re honestly better off just working on yourself taking better pics and having a good hinge profile
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:54 PM
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Everything you just said proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:26 PM
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I mean if you’re above average dating is easier than ever bc most guys are losers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:17 PM
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Well One I have a great job and I’m 12% bf. Two I don’t date skinny women I like my ladies thicker. But I’m simply pointing out the reality of the dating world
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:17 PM
2

Who’s complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:15 PM
2

Who
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:05 PM
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No it isn’t. The average is the average of the dating pool. Hence the distortion I’m talking about above
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:46 PM
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The average woman is 5’4, overweight, has a job mostly in customer service, healthcare or education
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:45 PM
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Well I mean you’re here arguing it so I think you do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:43 PM
3

Not anymore. Everyone uses dating apps now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:43 PM
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Yep. Children are a status symbol to them they rarely ever see the hardships that come with childcare and how it can affect someone’s career
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:14 PM
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This was true 20 yrs ago. Things have drastically changed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:47 AM
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See the problem tho is to get their type they’d have to put in work and that affects the core issue for most red pill, blk pill guys. They don’t want to do the work to get what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:50 PM
1

That’s simply not true. That’s a societal structure that’s outdated
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:22 PM
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The funny thing is on a lot of these subs you’ll see 99% of men taking credit for the 1% of men that fight wars, work on oil rigs or do deep sea fishing. Most of these guys don’t even workout regularly or take care of their health but they want to lump themselves into this group of men that society desperately neeeds
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:21 PM
1

I defined wanting you as wanting you for who you are and need as for what you can provide them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:51 PM
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I literally said being wanted for who you are. It’s pretty straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:33 PM
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Ding ding ding. That requires them to work on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:32 PM
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You’re lying. The club scene has been dead for yrs here. Which part of NY do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:12 PM
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Yeah honestly I think guys who think this way have little relationship and sexual experience. 1. 18 and 20 yr olds typically are awful in bed. By late 20s early 30s they have more experience and it’s far more enjoyable. Less awkwardness far more openness to knowing what works for them and what they can do to please you 18-22 yr olds are broke. Dating a woman who is always going to depend on you to pay the bills isn’t a flex. I’d much rather be with someone who can afford to pay for shit as well.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:24 AM
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Being a pick me does work tho. Pick mes typically allow the man to be in his masculine frame. Whereas simping puts the man in a feminine frame. But I don’t think acting decent is simping I agree with you there. I think simping is over the top self deprivation and pedestlizing someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:10 PM
2

Who said that? All I stated was the guy who’s faced these results will adapt. Just like women who keep getting played say “they’re not accepting bs from men anymore”. Why are men not allowed to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:05 PM
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Any form of disrespect as a consequence of simping. Getting cheated on, emasculated, friendzoned etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:04 PM
1

Ok grandpa this isn’t 1878
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:54 AM
-6

My cousin grew up to be an astronaut I guess that means everyone is an astronaut
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:53 AM
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Women’s dating advice is usually worse than simps dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:31 PM
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Money isn’t enough of an incentive you keep trying to peddle this lie but it’s not clicking the way you hope sir. There’s evidence globally of birth rates massively declining despite gov incentives. Welcome to the new world
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:45 PM
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More people are going to have to work longer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:43 PM
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Electric vehicles are pretty much on par with gas powered vehicles atp in terms of cost
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:43 PM
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Yep. Even the projections for sub Saharan Africa are being greatly revised bc of urbanization and education standards rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:42 PM
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It literally is mam. It’s a male separatist group. Are there a lot of misogynists in it? Yes. But the ones who actually do follow it and choose to just live alone aren’t a threat to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:38 PM
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It’s really interesting they go from guilt and shame to then open threats when they don’t get their way. This is 100% about control <image> And we can see even conservative women aren’t rushing to marry or have their kids either. These men are in crisis mode bc unlike their fathers and grandfathers they have far less power
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:37 PM
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wtf are you talking about both Japan and South Korea had tried to use financial incentives and it hasn’t worked. Japan and South Korea are just more extreme examples of what I talked about before. Money isn’t going to change it. And it’s needs to stop being viewed as something that’s broken that needs to be fixed. Society simply needs to adapt to a changing world
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:34 PM
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Mgtow is literally just men choosing not to date. It doesn’t mean they hate women. They’re choosing to be away from women. Why do you care if they’re not interacting with women anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:31 PM
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wtf are you talking about? Russian birth rates are at all time lows
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:08 PM
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Yes the rates are still declining
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:33 PM
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If a woman demands an expensive date she’s not int you it’s that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:31 PM
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I don’t think men become mgtow bc they hate women. Some men honestly just don’t want to deal with relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:31 PM
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Super comfortable modern life happened bc people fought for those rights. The economy improving doesn’t mean HDI is also increasing that’s a fallacy. Pro worker and suffrage movement increased privileges and equality
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:53 PM
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Society will simply have to adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:52 PM
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Finances hasn’t been shown to dramatically shift this. Nordic countries offer massive incentives for child birth and it’s barely caused a dent in
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:51 PM
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It’s mostly men and conservative men complaining about this. Also most people who immigrate to the west embrace western values so idk what you’re talking about. Your typical Nigerian or Chinese immigrant to America is going to embrace the American capitalist system, send their kids o college, get into debt to buy more than the need and help fund retirement
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:50 PM
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Exactly and everyone keeps missing the simple point of billions of people no longer wanting kids especially women. What we view as a fulfilling life has changed. Personal freedom and flexibility is far more attractive than having 2kids and a picket fence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:44 PM
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Yeah people don’t like to read on Reddit. They glance over a fre lines and run to the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:42 PM
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As I stated above. Financial incentives are not and have not been effective at creating massive changes in birth rates. Nordic countries give massive incentives to have children and yet their birth rates remain low. Society is simply going to have to adapt. Economic growth will be slower, taxes will be higher, retirement will be later. We’re in a new era
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:41 PM
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Most young women around <image> are liberal. Conservative women ranked kids as their 6th highest priority. Having kids is only a top priority for conservative men. In fact conservative women don’t even care that much about marriage anymore either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:39 PM
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No it won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:46 PM
2

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:45 PM
0

I said 20 max. Also if a woman is interested in you not only will you not have to up the cost but she’ll usually offer a second date and or you’ll be able to take her back to your place. Yall are wasting too much time on low interest women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:10 AM
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That’s bc they don’t believe they have a choice. Tons of people would buy a house at 3% interest rate. How many do you think would take the same house for free? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:18 PM
2

Men who make 600-700k are less than 1% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:37 PM
3

“My men” are you running a brothel?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:59 PM
7

This is the diary of a narcissist Jesus Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:50 PM
0

Then they don’t actually like him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:49 PM
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It’s getting to know someone. If she’s actually into you, you won’t have to do any dances to impress her
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:19 PM
6

Pool of what? How a woman desires you as a man has little to do with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:19 PM
1

I didn’t say to spend 20 dollars
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:17 PM
2

If she likes you it’ll go well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:17 PM
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You didn’t disprove anything I said you just brought up examples of where there’s flaws in their logic. You understand that two things can be true correct? It doesn’t seem like you’ve done much research at all on this topic. Red pill and the manager at their core hurts men more than it hurts women. Their theories push an ideology that men must become this perfect individual to succeed in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:03 PM
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Yeah it kind of sounds like he’s creating some new pill cope theory. When I got into great shape I’ve literally had women staring me down and telling me how nice my shoulders and triceps look. Had girlfriends tell me about my abs being hot. Women are absolutely attracted to the male body if not we would’ve gone extinct as a species already
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:50 PM
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I don’t like the manosphere but they’re actually pretty harsh on men if your be done your research. They believe most men are disposable and easily replaceable. Red pill theory too also theorizes that only the fittest of men should be able to survive and reproduce and the rest should fight for the scraps. Blk pill is even worse and basically believes your screwed based on your biology. I don’t think they really like or respect women but saying they don’t critique men is false. In fact their stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:47 PM
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Part of engaging in a debate is delivering a clear message. You write a novel on a Reddit post dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:09 AM
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Marriage rates are declining for every racial group lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:26 PM
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Everyone I know lives on the east coast. Not sure how that’s a reflection on the us as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:26 PM
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And they wonder why when men get to that level they exercise their options more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:00 PM
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Dating is hard bc human beings are different. Hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:59 PM
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If you don’t fall under that category then there’s nothing to worry about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:09 PM
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Why would a romantic relationship be a responsibility? You need one for survival anymore. And nobody owes this society anything wtf are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:08 PM
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Dressing up for a first date is overkill. I don’t even know you yet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:28 PM
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It’s just a response to a collective. Nothing more than that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:27 PM
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Who said I’m blaming Individual women? This is response to the women as a collective who complain about non chalant men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:00 PM
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People are more fit now than in the past. The past was about social shaming people into marriage or basically getting together for survival. This is the first period where we’re getting together out of desire so it’s just difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:53 PM
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This is in response to women who complain about non chalant men. I’m not blaming women for anything. Just telling them what caused this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:52 PM
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Simping and chivalry is the only reason why anyone would think differently. The drug dealers and abusive men are somehow always with a woman to sleep with. At some point these women should be held accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:34 PM
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It’s not a human thing. Most men are turned on by boring women who are laid back. Most women are turned on by drama
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:34 PM
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And men massively underreport DV and SA that women commit against them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:38 AM
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What are you talking about sir? Older women would rather work than be forced into child birth in their younger yrs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:30 AM
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I think women are usually more attractive at that age too. Much more responsible, mature, financially more stable, we can enjoy more things together. I’m 31 and the idea of being with a 19 yr old would be frightening to my social life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:23 PM
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Yeah I think their idea of a perfect relationship is out of some history textbook a picturesque shot of the 1950s American family with a house, 2 kids, wife and a dog. Nevermind there’s layers of propaganda over top of it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:21 PM
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Yeah that’s gross
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:09 PM
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Your peak is directly correlated to your diet and fitness
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:09 PM
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Yep. I’m 31 and my metabolism is actually higher now than it was 5 yrs ago bc I’ve put on more muscle and significantly reduced my body fat percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:57 PM
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Well I’m not talking about looks. I don’t think we’re allowed to post about that solely. I’m talking about the complete package. Every indicator points towards waiting longer being better for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:56 PM
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There’s nothing indicating that birth rates will ever return to what they are. This is end stage capitalism and reform will have to occur from a reform to our economic system. You cannot force women to generate more births to pump up your retirement plans
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:55 PM
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Looks has little to do with what I’m talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:25 PM
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And yet there’s more than enough queen women for all the queer women to pair up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:10 PM
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Exactly ding ding. Gay men earn the most, have lowest divorce rates and happiest relationships. If I were a bi man I’d only date men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:01 PM
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Why would your area be a reflection on the entire country? Most bi women live in large cities with high LGBTQ+ populations
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:59 PM
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Women have far higher expectations and demands than men. Most men are fine with a woman just having a pulse and being nice to them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:58 PM
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Idc for what your individual experience is. Men lie, women lie. Numbers don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:57 PM
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I know plenty of people who don’t own cars. What does that have to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:57 PM
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I agree. I think women make better friends and men make better romantic partners
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:56 PM
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Exactly bro. Let them cope tho
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:55 PM
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That’s reported DV rates. In most instances of both men experience it at the same rates but refuse to report it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:55 PM
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I didn’t say anything about children’s genius. Show me where I said anything about marriage and kids? You trad pill weirdos are narcissists. One this is a male centered sub Reddit so wtf are yall always snooping around. Two a good portion of people here don’t believe in your way of life. Gtfoh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:17 PM
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Lmao huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:20 PM
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Who’s getting outraged? I’m saying the argument for it is flawed are you high?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:04 PM
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Said nothing about children
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:03 PM
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Sounds like you’re projecting a lot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:03 PM
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Men are judged off of looks, finances, and charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:02 PM
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Yep. Thays why you’re better off looking for genuine desire.s being a checkbook doesn’t mean much
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:01 PM
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I didn’t say anything about children in my original post mam. That’s what I was referring to. Learn how to read before responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:00 PM
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I also think it’s not relative to today’s world. Most women I’ve dated have offered to pay. Not really sure why the red pill loves to act as if all women are gold diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:32 PM
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Sounds like someone who will get frustrated when he’s broke
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:38 PM
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No it doesn’t. Being a man is defining life on your own terms
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:29 PM
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I didn’t say anything about a family
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:29 PM
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That’s not actually true. Men and women have both worked throughout most of human history
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:29 PM
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No I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:28 PM
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You don’t have to provide to get any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:28 PM
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Sounds like a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:26 PM
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It’s 100% simping
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:26 PM
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Wel that’s part of my point. It’s not even realistic for 95% of men: most men need a wife who also works to help cover housing and life expenses
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:25 PM
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Yeah I love how I didn’t say this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:25 PM
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That’s a lie. I respect women more when they don’t play games and get right to it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:47 PM
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Exactly. It seems like people are getting better at choosing partners
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:32 PM
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Bc they’re angry they have to work hard to get something. They can’t just show up as the are and get a great job and a wife and a house. They have to put in work to improve themselves and it’s frustrating them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:22 PM
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When did I say any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:21 PM
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Yep they’re mad bc they don’t have any desirable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:19 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:19 PM
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I’m not focusing on the good relationships I’m focusing on marriages overall. There’s higher satisfaction in marriages amongst Millenials. That means there’s more quality marriages being produced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:19 PM
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Red pill and blk pill men want women to operate the same way they did in the past where they needed them. It frightens them that they have to actually be desirable to get a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:18 PM
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It being a privilege is why it’s getting better
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:17 PM
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It’s funny bc that’s basically the golden age that most red pill guys are referring to. Most women got married out of necessity in the past. Nowadays they don’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:28 PM
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Most of them hold that opinion idc for exceptions to rule 2. My post is a critique of red pill and blk pill not secret mystery pill man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:10 PM
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Red pill and blk pill has routinely stated that marriage is the ultimate goal for women so it would make sense for me to focus on marriage happiness over the happiness of short term relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:26 PM
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Again I think you’re struggling with reading comprehension. The post is about the happiness of current relationships not overall happiness of society
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:13 PM
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Idk what that means
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:13 PM
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That’s not cope sir that’s one of the biggest reasons for the current split in the dating market. Do you all just spam words without knowing their meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:12 PM
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I never said relationships were only about sex. I said it’s a dealbreaker. I never said it was the only dealbreaker. Reading is a virtue
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:37 PM
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Well if you actually read what I wrote you’d see I’m focusing on the quality of relationships and that’s my core argument. I’m not arguing whether single people feel better or not. I’m pushing back on the narrative that people in relationships aren’t as happy today as in the past. Rates being higher with lower satisfaction is not a win
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:37 PM
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No the system simply has to be reformed. There is no duty to child birth. All attempts at trying to influence or raise these birth rates have mostly had minimal benefit. Retirement ages will simply have to raise and our economic model will have to change to adapt to that. Slower growth, greater worker protections etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:35 PM
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People are struggling to get into relationships for a myriad of reasons. But red pill ideology pushes this belief that women are miserable in today’s society and are craving for traditional gender roles in relationships. The data doesn’t seem to show that. And single women are looking for what women in happy relationships have
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:31 PM
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Who said it was only about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:06 PM
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Actually pay attention to the relationship and date intentionally. Figure out what your dealbreakers are and see if the align with hers. Most people just fall into relationships and move into the next stage based on vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:09 AM
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Don’t get to that point. Pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:13 PM
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That’s bc most men are horrible at sex. Most women are too but the men are worse
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:12 PM
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Those men are simps. If you’re getting consistent cat you’re not worried about losing a random woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:12 PM
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There’s a lot of people especially from religious backgrounds who love to shame people on their sexual desires
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:47 PM
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Yeah. It’s not easy at all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:46 PM
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Oh I agree for orgasm in general. I don’t agree about the penetrative part. Bc stimulation of the clitoris is what leads to female orgasm and penetration is not the most efficient way to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:36 PM
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Not really sure what that has to do with what I just said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:35 PM
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Only women really do that. Most men are looking for what works and sticking to a strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:54 PM
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Pleasure in sex is way too subjective to be reduced to one study. You need to communicate with your partner to achieve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:54 PM
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Yep. A lot of guys are going on less dates now bc there’s too many scammers out there. A lot of women use you for dates or free drinks or free access.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:05 PM
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I mean you’re married how recently have you been in the dating market and did you date women when you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:04 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:03 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:03 PM
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They bring up outliers to distract from the main topic. It’s a waste of time even engaging with anyone being this disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:03 PM
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I don’t chase any women so idk what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:02 PM
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The topic is my opinion and people are debating it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:01 PM
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Well if they’re unsure, I’m sure I don’t want them. Saves us both time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:01 PM
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I’m not a lesbian so I have no idea or desire to care about how your relationship dynamics work. I’m simply talking about hetero relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:01 PM
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It’s pretty simple what I laid out. You can go deal with exceptions to the rule and “if buts and thens” I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:00 PM
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No interest in her then I’ll find someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:59 PM
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True. I’d say even showing signs like touching or feeling from day 1 are good indicators
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:59 PM
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Bad sex will ruin everything else about the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:58 PM
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Women take things slowly with guys they think would be nice for a relationship who don’t necessarily get them wet but raise their desire enough that they’ll sleep with them bc of all the other pluses. I have no desire in being that person. I’d rather be alone than be with a woman that don’t truly desire me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:58 PM
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Yep you get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:57 PM
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Yeah I dated someone like that before. It’s a dealbreaker and people like to downplay it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:47 PM
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Where did you see me saying I want a woman who has a low body count or a virgin? If I found out a woman had little sexual experience I’d most likely reject her. I don’t want to have to teach someone the basics. And sex with virgins is horrible
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:47 PM
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This sub is honestly hilarious. If you talk to the women on here you’d think every woman is just a naive saint looking for a good guy when 99% of men are cave men without any self control. In reality your average chick is running a roster and getting tons of attention. Like I don’t even hate the game it is what it is but let’s be honest 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:45 PM
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Idc to find out what’s going on in someone’s head. I just focus on actions and respond accordingly. Ie if I meet a woman on hinge I usually FaceTime before a date if the vibe isn’t strong I’ll unmatch. On the first date if the physical barrier isn’t broken I’ll move on. I don’t care to read minds or figure out why someone is the way they are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:42 PM
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Idc about dating people who move at a different speed than me. Similar to how I don’t care for dating republicans, Christian’s, flat earthers, women who want kids etc. Everyone’s allowed a preference. Are you new to dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:40 PM
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You shouldn’t. But there are women and men who string people along. Guys will usually do it for easy sex and women will do it for “backup options”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:39 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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