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Block and ghost...
/r/MGTOW22/10/18 11:59 AM
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My outdoor hobbies which consume lots of time: backpacking, hiking, kayaking, and running. ​ My dangerous hobbies: cruising on the motorcycle, skydiving, and scuba diving. Men are not allowed to participate in activities which may threaten the gravy train. ​ My "gross" hobbies: hunting, which results in me butchering the meat myself. Backpacking (again), since you're sweaty and dirty for an extended time. ​ My quiet time: reading books, reflective walks, or playing video games. Any quiet time wo…
/r/MGTOW20/10/18 01:21 PM
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Hate to see other men allow themselves to be destroyed; but its not worth the risk attempting to save them only to get dragged down myself. At the end of the day, better them than me.
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 10:45 PM
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Unicorn is a nice touch
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 11:51 AM
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What’s the best way to start up and build a customer base? How do you determine an appropriate fee?
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 11:42 AM
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Ghost her.
/r/MGTOW02/05/18 04:27 PM
10

Which model would you recommend?
/r/MGTOW02/05/18 03:13 PM
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some simp will inevitably insist on bringing his gf along Then you withdraw your invitation to him. I specifically preface these as a "guy's night" or a "guy's weekend" so that there is no misinterpretation. Someone insists on bringing his gf along, he gets told to stay at home with her.
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 11:22 AM
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Any activity, vacation, event, or game is destined to be ruined if you allow women to participate. Next time, go on a camping trip with only the guys. See for yourself how much more enjoyable it is.
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 12:47 AM
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Fuck off... stop apologizing. Bad habit to get accustomed to.
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 12:46 AM
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I realize that family, teachers, and society as a whole conditioned me to behave in a very blue-pill manner. That I did everything that I was taught to do by every single authority figure in my life. That as a young man without easy access to information found easily on /r/mgtow today, I didn't have a chance in hell of doing otherwise. And now, after living and learning, I became a MGTOW. And then I found this place, to pass on my experiences and observations to young men so that they don't have…
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 12:38 AM
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As is a man without a wife or children. If you are single, debt-free, and live a somewhat minimalist lifestyle you are in much more control of your life.
/r/MGTOW17/03/18 07:05 PM
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IMO, if you have self-control you can use credit to your advantage. Purchase everything on your credit card and pay the balance in full every month. Earn that 1 - 3% rewards with every purchase. Unfortunately, most people do not have that level of self control. They see credit as cash and just rack up debt in the blink of an eye.
/r/MGTOW17/03/18 07:03 PM
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About a month ago one of my friends suggested that I should go on a date with a female acquaintance. He wanted to introduce us and set us up for a date. I don't wear MGTOW on my sleeve, usually just fall back on the "I'm really busy" excuse to avoid attention. He was persistent, so I asked a few questions. What's her job, how fat/ugly is she, and why does she need help finding a date? "Oh, well she just got divorced and has a kid so she......" "NO." End of story.
/r/MGTOW11/03/18 09:41 PM
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When you leave her and cut ties you should expect the never-ending barrage of guilt trips and shaming tactics to increase dramatically. Women will do anything for attention; wouldn't surprise me if she fakes some kind of health crisis or event to get your time and attention. When you cut ties, completely ghost her.
/r/MGTOW10/03/18 12:22 PM
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IKR? lol
/r/MGTOW08/03/18 04:56 PM
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And become extremely abusive to one another, emotionally and physically.
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 03:35 AM
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Can confirm. Any time I told a woman that I wasn't looking for a relationship they would pull out all the tricks to keep me. Fucking like porn stars, cooking my meals, surprising me with little gifts... everything. Always had to watch out for the angry reaction when they realize after three months that you still don't want an LTR with them.
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 03:33 AM
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Have had depression for my entire life. Was able to gain control over it about a decade ago. The following helped me, no particular order: Avoid alcohol completely. I dried out for a month or two; next time I had a drink I felt the old melancholy blues feeling creeping in. Avoid alcohol, drugs, nicotine, excessive caffeine... it all throws you out of balance. Get active and stay active. And I mean exercise that forces heavy exertion. Lifting weights, running, swimming, and cycling are great. A m…
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 08:11 PM
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Sometimes you have to play with your own dick and cook your own meals to show these cunts how replaceable they are. And MGTOW was born.
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 10:22 AM
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If a woman claimed that she was forced or coerced by HR to eat lunch with male coworkers during her unpaid lunch break, it would be national news. A new hashtag would be made and we would hear about it for months.
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 10:20 AM
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Welcome brother. You identified a major problem in our society today when you mentioned the pervasiveness of double-think and group-think. The basis of this issue is that the vast majority of individuals, probably between 95 and 99%, simply do not live by a moral code or set of principles. They simply align with the dominant force present and go along to get along, taking the path of least resistance. This is why they can endlessly support a woman's actions while detesting a man for behaving in …
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 01:52 AM
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Congratulations bud on all your accomplishments. I am in a similar situation; worked my arse off to get where I am today, and have a hard time relating to old friends or acquaintances. They also attempted to belittle my efforts, lifestyle choices, hard work, and sacrifice. They were the type that would claim "well that's not a big deal, I could do it too... I just choose not to." My advice would be to cut those old peers out of your life. They have a way of dragging you down over time. Find new …
/r/MGTOW25/02/18 01:14 AM
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I hear you brother. For me exercise is not only physically and mentally addicting, it is my outlet for daily stressors. It keeps me sane and supports a positive mentality. I would not tolerate inactivity for long. What kind of chronic injury? I see others have suggested alternate methods for exercise such as swimming. Give it a shot; I have had multiple injuries over the years and have had to change my workout routine completely. Back and shoulder injuries forced me to pick up long distance runn…
/r/MGTOW18/02/18 01:43 PM
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The only actions that a female is better at are deception and manipulation. It is unsettling how quickly they can turn on the switch and become a completely different person in the blink of an eye.
/r/MGTOW18/02/18 11:41 AM
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Women hear what they want to hear. I've told women up front that I don't want a relationship, that just hanging out and fucking is all I am looking for. They happily agree, because in the back of their mind they all think the same thing: I'll let him sample my magical vagina and he will change his mind. I've had fuck buddies that I ensured to clarify my no-relationship position on a weekly basis. And guess what? They still catch feelings and twist the scenario into being a relationship. You cann…
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 09:25 AM
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Had a few girlfriends give me an ultimatum. I threw on my jacket and walked out. Most of them chased me down, begging me to come back. Each time, the follow-up fucking was extremely good. But in the end, i always made a mental note that it was time to move on soon. Nowadays, I do not give them a second of my time. They are invisible to me.
/r/MGTOW12/02/18 11:16 PM
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/r/relationships is that way -->
/r/MGTOW26/01/18 09:39 AM
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Hell yes man, best thing to do is walk out and not attend another holiday gathering. Female family members will shit-test you to oblivion if you allow it.
/r/MGTOW26/01/18 09:18 AM
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Shit you own ends up owning you.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 10:00 AM
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Hit the nail on the head. It once surprised me how fast a girl would change around me. Had girls that "would never ride a motorcycle because it's too dangerous..." and they were on the back of my bike on the first date. Same thing with firearms: girls that were anti-gun and terrified of anything that went boom... out to the rifle range within a week of meeting them. They just alter their personalities and interests to align to whichever male they are currently with. Hence why invaders have been …
/r/MGTOW13/01/18 11:09 PM
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Short answer: No, you are not welcome here. We do not have any interest in any female or their thoughts, support, or perspective. Lurk all you want, but take yours posts elsewhere. Typical AWALT; sees a male-only space and can't resist the urge to interrupt and put herself in the spotlight. TL;DR - Go Away.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 10:54 AM
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I have a multitude of hobbies, so depending on how I'm feeling I will choose something to accommodate me (or shift gears into a different mindset). I enjoy the outdoors, so I tend to spend most of my time there. Backpacking alone or with friends, skydiving, kayaking, and cruising on the motorcycle (again, alone or with friends). Sometimes I just need solitude and will choose a very isolated area to hike in alone, brings me back into a peaceful mindset. Sometimes I just like to kick back with a g…
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 10:23 PM
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If I were you I would email the HR representative directly about your meeting, including very specific details about your original complaint and her response and your concern about her instructions to keep it hushed up. I would CC a manager above her as well so it cannot be buried. I would also file a complaint above the HR worker about being sexually harassed in the workplace and your complaints being dismissed immediately, and you even being threatened that you could lose your job over it. Pri…
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 08:49 PM
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Well done; excellent video for all, especially the new MGTOW or younger men lurking here. You are no longer alone.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 05:45 PM
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Always seek out a male nurse or caretaker. > 90% of them actually give a shit about helping people. It is the inverse for females.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 01:49 PM
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This 100%. You all have seen it: the friend or family member who is a Dr. or RN and constantly posts that shit on Facebook, or they have the Nurse/Doctor T-shirt collection. "RNs are superheroes" "savings lives" blah blah blah. Those people don't give a shit about helping others, they are doing it for the social image and paycheck. The more RN/Dr. shit that they have (clothing, FB posts, bumper stickers, etc) the less they actually care for their patients.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 01:47 PM
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This occurred last week to me, an old FWB texted me out of nowhere. I was delayed in replying because I do not live with my phone permanently stuck six inches in front of my face. When I texted back, her very next text asked me about where I was working and how it was going. The cunt was sizing me up for a quick cash grab... pulled the "who dis?" And ghosted her.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 11:20 AM
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"Put on the glasses!!"
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 09:16 AM
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Never go back.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 12:57 AM
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Yep, started off strong and then died quickly. A few episodes in later seasons were good... now it is full SJW wet-dream.
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 10:13 PM
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The Walking Dead is absolute trash. May have started out alright, but now it is built for the SJW and feminist crowd. Nothing can exist in popular media without women getting their filthy hands on it. They ruin everything.
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 10:02 AM
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Holy shit yes. I recall years ago when I had a house up for rent. Showed it to a few couples, they all put their applications in. I narrowed it down to two different couples that both had good credit, good references, and reliable income. When I made my decision I signed a lease with one couple. I called the other couple and the wife answered; I informed her that regrettably I had rented the home to someone else. Instantly her tone changed to angry disbelief. "ARE YOU SERIOUS?!" she spat back at…
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 11:26 PM
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Understood. It wears off with time, especially after enough negative interactions with women. Younger men tend to still be idealistic about relationships with women; after spending enough time with them you learn all their manipulative tricks and hidden agendas. Now I look around at women and can instantly see the red flags and drama.
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 01:12 PM
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Shit-test. Always have to push the lines and probe for "weakness"
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 01:10 PM
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I'm surprised they aren't constantly texting you after that response. The worse I treated girls the longer they hung around me.
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 01:09 PM
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Or she tells every person you're gay... you deny ever saying you are and file an HR complaint for bullying and sexual harassment. Only works once, and if you only tell her.
/r/MGTOW01/11/17 09:21 AM
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Not sure where he is getting "dull and lonesome" from; I lead a more fulfilling and exciting life as a MGTOW than I ever did while I was still pursuing women. And there is no end to it in sight... I will continue to enjoy my hobbies, try out new ones, and live my life as I see fit in a general state of happiness for as long as I can. Dull? Certainly not. Lonesome? Absolutely not; lonesome was being stuck in a dead marriage with a wife that hated me. GYOW and know true happiness.
/r/MGTOW01/11/17 09:18 AM
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Story time: Was dating this girl for a short time. When she would leave my place I would ask her to text me when she made it home alright. She would, and I would reply "thanks, have a good night." One time we got into a small spat about something minor; she didn't like something I was doing and I refused to compromise for her. After awhile she left to go home; same old song and dance, asked her to text me when she made it home. She never did. I don't recall if I texted her to check on her, but i…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 08:22 PM
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Man up = Doing what I want and saying "fuck you" to everybody else. Sure, I'll "man up."
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 07:55 PM
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Let them screech all they want, I'm not going to fucking listen (inserts earbuds)
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 07:52 PM
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Absolutely. Rocker all the way.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 07:38 PM
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I consider myself a tough, independent and strong woman If she were any of those things she would not be asking that question. She would be living and enjoying life. She is a parasite without a host, simple.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 09:39 AM
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Women feel challenged when a guy doesn't instantly pursue them and give them attention. And the indifferent and aloof character is a big attraction for them. Want a girl to be interested in you? Tell her that you are not interested in a relationship right now. That bitch will flip on her head to lure you into one.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 09:36 AM
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It is part of their nature. For their entire life someone has excused or covered for their poor decision making and shitty behavior. All they had to do was flash a smile and perk up their tits, and men would fall over themselves to please her. When they hit the wall they are so learners. Eventually, they figure out that the old tools and tricks have no power anymore, and they begin to panic. They resort back to their ex- since he was vulnerable to her powers once before; sometimes they still are…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 09:24 AM
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That is an appropriate way to view the situation; after all, the woman that you dated is likely no longer there. Women chameleon themselves so much that they don't have a true identity anymore.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 09:20 AM
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Excellent post sir; every father should read this at the onset of a divorce, prior to the bitter and angry arguments and custody court battles. I believe that you hit the nail on the head: every man's first instinct is to solve a problem with facts, reason, and logic, and to use anger and brute aggression in a head-on fight. When fighting a woman for custody it is vital to wage psychological warfare, to make her question your goals and purpose. I suppose if you push, a woman pushes back. It is m…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 09:06 AM
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Eventually, I found MGTOW. I would recommend trying MGTOW before trying marriage.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 02:11 AM
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No goddamn way would they be allowed near my camp. I would let them suffer in the cold and wet, give them time to think about their bullshit games and false confidence. MGTOW, no compromise.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 12:18 AM
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Fuck off cunt. You are not welcome here.
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 11:06 PM
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Your free testosterone level is more important than your total T score. Your body's tissues cannot use the testosterone that is bound to SHBG, so the free testosterone is what actually has an effect. If a man has a high total T score, but also has a high SHBG, he may have less active testosterone overall.
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 11:05 PM
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I have distanced myself from most of my family members due to their toxicity, negativity, or back-stabbing. I discovered many of them were gossiping about me or berating me behind my back, and then playing the victim card when I was around. I had one pull the "we are family" card after she was a complete bitch to me for weeks. IDGAF. I don't completely cut them out because I am close to some of my family still and I don't want to create drama for them. However, I don't attend family dinners at h…
/r/MGTOW25/10/17 09:01 PM
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I will never go to another wedding. I have turned down the last 5 or 6 I was invited to, and therefore had a much more enjoyable day focusing on my hobbies.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 07:58 PM
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Short answer, yes. Remember, women are not capable of keeping secrets. They simply cannot do it; so even if your sister doesn't use it against you, some friend or family member that she has shared the info with will.
/r/MGTOW16/10/17 02:19 PM
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100% agree. Have lost several lifelong friends due to their decision to make their girlfriend their top (and usually only) priority. Then when the gf cheated on them or suddenly dumped them they were calling me up after months of radio silence. Sorry bud, you've shown how little you valued our friendship.
/r/MGTOW14/10/17 10:21 AM
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Congratulations brother! You will be amazed at how much money you have when you are single. Women have a unique skill to bleed you financially dry without actually accumulating anything of value. Enjoy your road ahead, wherever you choose it to lead.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 01:06 PM
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The world is what it is; you cannot change it. All you can do is to ensure that it does not change you. YOU have control over how you perceive and react to the world, but you have little or no control over others' actions. I understand because I experience the same frustrations and anger when dealing with the idiocy of zombies around me. Their endless consumerism of shitty products, no real life or hobbies to speak of, and can't even walk down the sidewalk without bumping into everyone because t…
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 11:47 AM
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She hit the wall early. Between a botched boob-job and hitting the drugs and alcohol excessively, she was washed up before 25. AWALT
/r/MGTOW08/10/17 01:10 PM
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Strength training will boost your testosterone. I don't think sex really affects T levels that much; oxytocin is released during intercourse, but T levels just affect your sex drive. Tobacco, alcohol, insufficient or poor quality sleep, and soy will lower your testosterone levels, as well as watching romantic comedies or listening to women complain about their hardships daily.
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 10:29 PM
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Women end up settling with a beta cuck after they hit the wall. They don't choose to do so, and they certainly don't want to do it, they just accept it. Sure, once they hit the wall at 30 or 35 (or 25 if they booze and party too hard) they may still get chad's attention, but it will only be for pump and dumps. Any guy with self respect and an ounce of experience and wisdom will not tolerate their shit for a single moment. Women hit the wall hard and it takes them awhile to realize that it is act…
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 10:25 PM
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Congratulations on finding the truth so young, it is outstanding to see young MGTOW without having to endure the hardships of marriage and divorce. No matter what it is in life, such as a sport, career, vacation, hobby, celebration, night out drinking, hiking or backpacking trip, dinner party, holiday, concert, or simply quiet time with a good book... it will always be ruined if a woman is part of the equation. They are not satisfied unless they ruin and add drama to everything. GMOW and keeping…
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 07:06 PM
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Six in one, half dozen in the other. Add Canadian, New Zealand, and Australian women into that mix as well.
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 07:02 PM
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I have never heard of her and she won't be getting a dime of my time or money. I don't waste either on shitty mass production entertainment.
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 02:46 PM
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Which shows how effective, and necessary, this subreddit and similar forums are to assist young men in avoiding the hardships and destruction associated with marriage. Unfortunately, a decade or two ago so many of us had to learn the hard way. Limited access to red-pill information, extremely strong social conditioning, and constant pressure from family, friends, society, and media made us disbelieve our gut feelings about female nature and women's true intentions. I am very grateful to see youn…
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 02:45 PM
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KEK. Much appreciated.
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 11:52 AM
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Taking a moment to consider this individual's message (either a woman or white-knight), it is unbelievable how pretentious and arrogant it is. Here is a person who not only generalizes an entire collection of people (almost 35,000, woo hoo!), but also states that all of their collected ideas, opinions, arguments, etc are bullshit... But this individual, and they alone, know THE TRUTH, and can provide all the answers that this group of tens of thousands of men cannot. After considering this... th…
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 11:48 AM
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As this subreddit grows we are going to attract a more diverse crowd of individuals, and some of these will certainly not be real MGTOW (married men, purple pillers, TRPers, women pretending to be men, women blatantly invading). It is just part of the game... shrug it off and ignore the BS content. Don't feed the trolls and don't lose your focus over insignificant matters. There is no good reason to argue; keep it to a civil discussion or debate and enjoy the subreddit. Don't pay attention to th…
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 11:35 AM
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Who? Is she supposed to be relevant or something?
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 11:29 AM
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I've been monk mode for some time now. I will admit it, I would still want sex if I could have it without risks or complication. The act of fucking a 9 or 10 when she is into the sex is outstanding. Pounding that pussy into oblivion while she begs for more is certainly enjoyable. HOWEVER; I already know all of the effort, bullshit, risks, and fine print that comes along with sex. And in no way, shape, or form is it worth it... even if it was 1/10 of the actual effort/risk, it still wouldn't be w…
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 01:06 AM
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Welcome brother
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 12:59 AM
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I agree 100%. I don't hold doors open, I don't say "ladies first" when exiting the elevator, I don't move out of the way when they are too busy staring at their phone to notice they are about to collide with me, I don't pull over when they are stranded on the side of the highway, and I don't offer to help them with whatever problem they are having (computer trouble, car making a funny noise, need a lift to the airport). I let them figure shit out for themselves. It is amusing how long it took me…
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 03:10 AM
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My response: Beer.... check. Whiskey and Scotch.... check. Cigar..... check. Favorite meal...... check. Comfortable recliner..... check. Favorite book....... check. Fun hobbies........ check. Just waiting to watch the world fall apart around me...... check.
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 10:33 PM
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"The lice hate the sugar..."
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 08:48 PM
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Great movie. OP, I would highly recommend watching it.
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 08:44 PM
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SPOILERS: I agree with others on here; Gustavo was manipulating Walt in a manner that he knew would work. I am re-watching Breaking Bad currently and it is interesting to watch Walt struggle between the red pill and blue pill. There are scenes when he really focuses on just himself and leaves the beta shit behind: when he puts Skyler in her place (multiple scenes), when he stone-faced lies to family or friends to get them off his back so he can do what he wants, when he skips his daughter's birt…
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 08:41 PM
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"Oops he busted me... time for Plan B!" (Commences crying)
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 07:42 PM
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MP3 player and earbuds are your friend.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 07:36 PM
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"HAHAHAHAHA... Good one!!"
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 07:27 PM
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Roger. In the other videos you can hear very long strings of fire, I would say 50 - 100 rounds without any interruption. Constant accel/decel of firing rate, although it does remain continuous. Long reload times, +10 seconds. I would guess someone with limited to moderate firearm experience.
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 10:52 AM
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Sounded like it. In videos you can hear an acceleration/deceleration in continuous firing rate. Most likely from a bump fire... an actual full auto rifle should have a steady cyclic rate.
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 10:33 AM
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Congrats brother, you are wise beyond your years. I smashed a lot of pussy in my younger day; after I left my ex-wife and decided I wasn't doing LTRs anymore, I had hot girls climbing all over me. They just can't handle it when you show little interest in them or explain to them that you aren't interested in dating. A damn alarm goes off in their head that they MUST HAVE YOU... However, in the end it was never worth it. Either it was time wasted (no money wasted, fuck spending money on women) fo…
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 07:50 PM
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Wank again.
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 07:42 PM
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I accept that in your past you have been a complete slut, lacking any form of morals, responsibility, or self-respect. I support your choice of continuing to do so, while throwing your health down the drain to excessive eating, boozing, and unprotected fucking. I encourage you to drive full speed into the Wall, which is rapidly approaching in the not-so-distant future. Sincerely, A Gentleman
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 04:30 PM
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Let the bitches fend for themselves... GYOW.
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 04:26 PM
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Indeed. Actions, not words. Women understand what is expected of them, and it is easy to verbalize it. However, actual behavior takes more discipline and effort, of which they have none. Actions, not words my friend.
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 04:25 PM
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43% of woman ADMIT to having a back up man
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 11:15 PM
2

I was never more lonely, isolated, or depressed than when I was married.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 10:24 PM
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I noticed that one, as well as "it hurt me that you moved on so quickly." They want the best of both worlds. I despise those hypocritical cunts
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 09:06 PM
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That is why she is so excited... a new dad to manipulate and squeeze cash out of.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 08:49 AM
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Throw them in prison. These are babies, not your fucking accessories or toys to play with. These cunts should be given hard labor for ten years in Leavenworth.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:22 PM
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Came here to post this. Men are raised and trained to submit to women. I would bet the vast majority of us got burned and had to learn our lessons the hard way. The younger generation of MGTOW have a better chance of figuring it out early because of their access to information online. A man will face the same crossroads a thousand times in his life: whether to give in and submit to a woman or to finally say "NO." The majority of men will repeat the same mistake over and over again. Even when the…
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:16 PM
4

My life already has a purpose: me.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:10 PM
1

You pass the butter.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:09 PM
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Just reading that list made my blood pressure spike... I am so fucking thankful I divorced early rather than "trying to make it work." Let women finance their own holidays and anniversaries... I've got adventures to tackle.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:06 PM
3

Live and learn, brother. Chalk it up to identifying a weakness on your part and addressing it so that it won't happen again in the future. Other guys on here are right: you didn't waste a lot of time, money, or effort in pursuing her. You realized that you fucked up and now you can add it to your experience bucket. Go rub one out and get back on track, you're still a MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 04:42 PM
5

Smart man... knows when to walk away and avoid the mama drama
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 04:26 PM
2

When women turn on the crying I tune out. Automatically; I just assume that they are attempting to manipulate me. Better to just walk away completely and leave them on their own.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 10:42 PM
9

Men it is time to boycott marriage until laws change & here is why! FTFY
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 10:04 AM
17

There comes a time when the scales tip and you start valuing time, effort, and money more than the opportunity to get laid. This happens to every man at a different time, usually closer to 30s since the sex drive is naturally decreasing anyways. Congratulations: you can now objectively consider the cost/benefit analysis of chasing tail. It is never worth it.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 10:02 AM
1

Ghost her.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 09:27 AM
1

Remember how you felt during the next three weeks to three months, and stay the fuck away from the trap in the future.
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 08:33 PM
17

Eight years old in an instant. Everyone is saying "I would use my knowledge of markets, investments, etc. to make $100 million." Fuck all that. I would go back to 8 years old even if you told me I would never make more than $75,000 per year... as long as I could keep my knowledge and memory with me. The amount of TIME that I wasted trying to follow the path that society dictated for me... that is the biggest regret in my life. I would want to retain my knowledge and experiences because, although…
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 06:09 PM
3

Hey brother, don't let the bitterness, rage, and hate destroy you. Its understandable to be angry and upset, but control that raw emotion; use it and channel it into something productive. Don't compare yourself or your hardships to how easy women have it... you will only end up miserable. Most women are unhappy; they are disapointed, unfulfilled, empty shells that will never know true happiness. The problem is that they are accustomed to having everything handed to them, of having every need and…
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 01:45 PM
1

there's a 98% chance i'm smarter than you i'm i'm i'm Fucking bitch is too stupid to find the shift key.
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 01:28 PM
4

She is lucky to get a ride home. If I saw her on a date I would nope the fuck outta there
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 01:20 PM
188

Fucking awesome man; that is probably the first time that someone has stood up to that fat bitch in her entire life. I'm sure her brain was ready to explode from "system error" messages from a man threatening to break her face. I am over with this bullshit that women can attempt to intimidate, threaten, or assault men without repercussions. A bitch gets in my face or throws a punch and she is ending up on her fat ass. Your dad sounds red-pill as fuck, too. Instantly identifying the problem and r…
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 01:17 PM
20

What is disturbing is how many doctors will refuse to perform a vasectomy unless the man already has children or is at least 30 years old. Got mine in my mid-20s. Took me over half an hour to convince the doc to do it on the day of surgery. Females can get multiple abortion in their teens with consent from parents, but fuck letting an adult male elect to get a simple vasectomy.
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 01:10 PM
2

I don't know. I do believe that if you look at a heroin addict's behavior compared to a blue pilled man's behavior you will find some very disturbing similarities.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 03:28 PM
5

Yes, that was the point I was attempting to illustrate: we are encouraged by all of society (peers, family, religion, work) to pursue pussy (a drug) regardless of the negative effects. Blue pill men are addicts who want to share their misery. Women are the dealers who want you hooked.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 02:47 PM
15

MGTOW will not be enough to balance the population. We will breed ourselves into extinction. Anyone can see that our current growth patterns are unsustainable. Mankind will devolve and perish before we address the problem.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 12:36 PM
13

Pussy is a drug, it is as simple as that. Compare the attitude and behavior of a man chasing pussy to those of a man addicted to heroin. They sacrifice everything for their fix; dedicate absurd amounts of time and money to it. They don't care how it negatively affects their health, relationships with friends, or career. Pussy is a drug. Worse than that, it is a drug that we are ENCOURAGED to use by almost all of society. People who push you to chase pussy are addicts who want another individual …
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 11:02 AM
12

Red-pill rage phase. A lot of guys need to vent or hear similar stories during this time, or it is there first time being told that they aren't crazy. Men who have been exposed to years of manipulation, abuse, gas-lighting, and emotional outbursts will likely have a lot of pent up frustration, anger, and even rage. That's great that you are in such a positive place and on the path of self-actualization. A lot of men aren't so fortunate, so take a minute to consider their perspective and situatio…
/r/MGTOW16/09/17 10:56 PM
65

"Are you gay?" "No, I just have standards."
/r/MGTOW16/09/17 10:51 PM
2

Awesome brother! You have your freedom, enjoy it! Cheers.
/r/MGTOW16/09/17 10:49 PM
3

That sucks big time, I am sorry for you loss brother.
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 07:45 PM
2

Absolutely brother... let the simps and white knights put up with their childish bullshit. I'll be enjoying life and having fun while they suffer.
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 07:41 PM
54

I am a chad, have never had a problem getting laid. I once tested a woman to see her reaction. We had gone on a date or two and she was extremely flirty and touchy. We made out a bit and messed around, but didn't fuck. When we were getting worked up and she was half naked on the second or third date, I stopped and told her I wanted to hold off on sex for a few more dates. I stated I was sure that fucking her would be great, but that I wanted to "get to know her" (see if she was LTR material) wit…
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 02:05 PM
9

I wouldn't know... I completely ghosted them and blocked their numbers. No social media, either.
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 01:55 PM
9

I would talk to more people if I could find someone worth talking to. I enjoy my solitude. And while there are times when I would enjoy to share an experience with another person, such as backpacking or hiking, I find that most people devalue the experience by endless chatter or playing on their phones. Solitude is peace.
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 07:40 PM
27

Congrats brother. It is frustrating to watch men agree to "a break;" to sit and mope while she is out fucking every dick that gets thrown at her. Then to take her back in a month when she has had time to "think." Cheers.
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 07:36 PM
4

Agreed. Raising bastard children absolves her of the consequences; I'm not here to save the world or to break my back trying to right every wrong. Sucks for that kid, but life isn't fair. It also sucks for all the kids who have degenerate, low IQ, scumbag parents... but I'm not dedicating my life to save them either. I can't even risk volunteering my time to be a mentor to young boys in case their bipolar leeching mother attempts to accuse me of molesting them. Fuck it, let it burn.
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 07:33 PM
17

Women are like fishermen. In order to get a hook into you they will use whichever bait or lure has an effect. If its jumping into bed and being a freak, they will do that. If it just giving you average attention once in awhile and leading you on, they will do it. If being a stereotypical "good girl next door" works, that is what she will do. For guys whom are red-pilled or MGTOW, these women are scrambling to crack a code. Hence why we see so many new-born traditionalists, or girls "uninterested…
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 09:59 AM
15

Great points. While actively avoiding relationships I am much more relaxed and happier in general life. Everything I do is for my comfort and satisfaction, not to attract or impress women. Life is much simpler now and my stress levels are almost non-existent. MGTOW for life, brothers.
/r/MGTOW09/09/17 01:59 PM
2

Nobody gets an ego boost when they have been ghosted. All she can think about is how easily you are ignoring her and how she isn't worth even five seconds of your time. They HATE it.
/r/MGTOW05/09/17 05:02 PM
12

Block them
/r/MGTOW05/09/17 10:06 AM
1

The Acceptance Stage is incredibly peaceful. I see women for what they are: resource-sucking chameleons who only contribute sex and baby-making, both of which I have absolutely zero interest in. No anger, no bitterness, no depression, and no regret (other than not going MGTOW earlier... but nothing in life is perfect). Every day is lived for myself.
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 12:31 PM
12

Get the fuck out of here.
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 11:48 AM
2

The more they push you towards marriage the more they will push you away. When they realize this they will either stop or double down. Many people double down on stupid mistakes, be prepared to walk away
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 11:42 AM
22

Welcome brother, congratulations on your acceptance to law school. Work hard, ignore women, and enjoy a profitable career so that you can live on your terms. Don't slip when you are successful and the vultures start swarming you.
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 11:37 AM
2

Cheers brother
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 08:29 PM
3

Exactly. If she were a guy, OP would be porn. Something to fill the time and basic needs, but quickly discarded when an actual female is interested in fucking. If that falls through, porn is waiting in the background to return to. OP is an inanimate object, a resource, to be used and discarded as needed
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 08:19 PM
1

You were the back up plan. Something more interesting came along, she kept you on the back burns until it was a certainty. Branch-swinging, even in day-to-day life.
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 08:15 PM
1

Welcome to MGTOW. The rabbit hole goes much deeper than you imagine. Don't try to save women, they do not want to be saved.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 08:54 AM
3

You owe your parents nothing. They made the decision to bring you into this world (or were irresponsible enough to accidentally get pregnant). They are 100% responsible for your existence, but are in no way warranted anything in return for this fact. This bullshit idea of having children so that "someone will take care of me when I'm older" is a twisted manner of thinking. We are our own men... we do not belong to anyone else or owe our time/energy/money to anyone. Do not forget it.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 01:56 AM
11

It will also work after, she will just change tactics and find some beta simp to snare. Plenty of men willing to throw their lives away for used up trash.
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 06:14 PM
12

Absolutely, very good point.
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 05:58 PM
6

I have a similar plan... although I will more than likely have to work an actual job, just reduce my total hours tremendously. Live off of investments and working 3 months out of the year. A minimalist lifestyle would be an incredible experience. Cheers!
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 08:04 PM
2

Sounds like major depression. However, after living for decades as a wage slave and provider for his family, it is likely that he has forgotten what life is truly about. He probably gets no enjoyment from hobbies or activities and just wallows in self-pity and animosity for the general world. Depression is a rabbit-hole that is not easily escaped. I could have easily found myself in the same position if I had not taken the red pill and divorced my ex-wife. GMOW was the best decision of my life.
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 07:59 PM
5

Awesome brother, keep it up!
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 07:55 PM
7

Putting away 58% of gross income or take home?
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 07:49 PM
2

You misunderstood. SHE got that money, probably as a "victim of crime" compensation. I doubt the man who was imprisoned for two years on a bullshit charge has received any compensation.
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 03:45 PM
2

Juice isn't worth the squeeze. Of course I'm still attracted to a sexually appealing girl who keeps herself in good shape (which is becoming increasingly more difficult to find)... but when I think of all the shit that comes along with that package I have absolutely no interest to dedicate a single dollar of my money or second of my time into pursuing it. My life has way more meaning than that... which is ensuring that I have fun and am happy as much as possible. That pursuit and a female cannot…
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 09:55 AM
3

Have plenty of cash, lots of fun hobbies, and no woman around to take it all away from me or tell me "No." Life is fucking great.
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 09:43 AM
22

This is it. Whether it is within 5 minutes of meeting her or after 6-months of dating, eventually you will be required to invest more money, time, energy, and effort than she (and her vagina) is worth. It is a loser's game: just like at the casino, you have fun for the first few games and then you are completely focused on trying to just get back to where you started.
/r/MGTOW19/08/17 10:46 PM
8

"Women don't think like that!" I have identified the primary problem. She is correct: women don't think like that. They don't care if they are the best person for the job, or if they are even able to perform in their assigned position. All they care about are "feelings" and resources. They are so damn short-sighted that they cannot even fathom the danger they place others and themselves in when they fill gender quotas for a position, nor how much of a negative impact they have on their community…
/r/MGTOW14/08/17 08:04 PM
2

If the weather is good then spend the days outdoors in solitude: go for a day hike or backpacking for a few days. If you want an adrenaline rush, go skydiving. Do something you enjoy for you, rather than waste an evening and a wad of cash getting drunk and suffering through a hangover the next morning.
/r/MGTOW12/08/17 12:40 PM
13

Exactly. GYOW should not be some revenge fantasy or big dramatic event to shock the female community. It is a logical conclusion after a long and thorough analysis of our situation today. Many of us have likely decided that enjoying our time on this planet is our new priority since our previous priorities of finding a partner and providing for a family (an option that was repeatedly forced down our throats since birth by society, authority, and family) is just a make-believe fantasy with a purpo…
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 06:18 PM
32

While this is true, it strikes women deep down to their core when an Alpha displays no interest in them. A woman can have a hundred beta orbiters praising her and worshiping the ground she walks on; she will feel dejected and worthless when a single man fails to fall in line. They do not forget being rejected, no matter how rarely it may occur.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 01:13 PM
5

I observe this all the time. Women walking spread across the path, refusing to move or make way for anyone coming through. Those cunts need to be fucking run down so they can understand how real life works.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 01:18 PM
8

Get a vasectomy, brother.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 12:57 PM
1

Yes. Some were actually pregnant; they insisted that I was the only person that could possibly be the father. It was enjoyable informing them that I was sterile. Others were never pregnant, I assume they were just trying to fuck with me and stress me out.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 05:18 PM
1

She's got the HIV then!! -Dr. Toboggan, MD
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 03:05 PM
4

Agreed. I have had women approach me in all environments and make it blatantly obvious that they wanted to fuck me, including married women. I stopped putting in any effort and I got laid a lot more consistently.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 01:27 PM
5

I don't think it is instinctive; rather, I believe she was completely hoping for a pregnancy to secure a provider and some income. Not to mention all of the attention from being pregnant and a new mom. Tell a woman that you don't want kids and she will stop taking her pill and jump into bed to sperm-jack you. Tell a woman that you can't have kids and it leaves her no control. Women hate vasectomies, its a complete power shift.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 01:09 PM
2

Yes. I followed up and got tested every year for about five years to make sure the tubes didn't reconnect. Always was a relief to get the results back from the lab.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 11:32 AM
6

Yep. Was with a college girl fucking her brains out when the condom breaks. I was near the end so just finished anyways then quickly went to wash off. Told her the condom broke... she didn't say much at all. No freakout, no getting upset. I told her not to worry and that I had a vasectomy. Never saw her again after that.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 11:30 AM
1

Very wise decision brother. I got a vasectomy about 8 years ago. Very little tenderness or pain afterwards and I was back at work the following day. I forgot all about it and received a reminder when I dropped down from a stool I was standing on. Overall, healing was complete in about two weeks. No long term pain or complications. It was the best decision I have ever made and would pay 10x for it looking back (cost me $400). I was in my prime days of pumping and dumping back then so I am sure it…
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 11:27 AM
1

Yes sir. No accountability, it is too much for their delicate snowflake feelings to handle.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 11:12 AM
3

While completely ridiculous, that doesn't surprise me at all.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 01:15 AM
20

She is resisting because she knows she has herpes. If you were just a one night stand she would say nothing about it, fuck you, and feel no regret or shame afterwards.
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 06:53 PM
2

One solution: Divorce. I divorced my ex-wife before she could ruin my life any further. It was rough at first... like ripping off a well-set bandage. However, I am extremely happy with my life right now... if I had stayed with her I would probably be dead by now or on my way to an early grave. As others have said, plan your divorce. DO NOT give any indication that you are doing so. Speak with a lawyer and pay with cash. Do not act differently, do not speak to her differently. Get your ducks in a…
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 06:49 PM
2

Remain disciplined and focused and you will do just that. GYOW makes life much more simpler and rewarding.
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 06:42 PM
12

Women will never give you closure; they will withhold a reason and just ghost your ass because it is easier on them. If they give you a reason it is a bullshit one that usually assigns the blame to you. They will never accept responsibility or say anything to portray themselves in a bad light; they simply cannot do it. Congratulations on finding MGTOW and welcome brother. Train your mind to see women for what they are: parasites, consumers, and manipulators. AWALT. Find a passion in your life to…
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 06:34 PM
3

You are 19 years old, it is normal to have that high of a sex drive and be attracted to women. You will likely have these urges and a high sex drive for years. In late 20s to early 30s it decreases drastically... life becomes more focused then.
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 06:31 PM
22

BURN HER!!
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 03:02 PM
3

Same here brother; every year divorced is better and better!
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 02:58 PM
4

Welcome brother, glad that you have found your way here. If you are disciplined enough to choose to be celibate in your early 20s, I doubt you will have any desire to pursue sexual relationships with women in your 30s. Your sex drive drops in that time frame and your eyes become more open to women's games, drama, and overall worthlessness. For what it's worth, I have experienced some outstanding sex with women... and it has never been worth the cost. And I mean top-quality fucking with 10/10 gir…
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 01:40 PM
3

You an Iron Maiden fan?
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 12:15 PM
2

Indeed. The number of FWB or fuck-buddies who got angry when I would never commit to a relationship: "But it feels like we are already in a relationship!! We hang out and fuck all the time!!" "Yeah... we fuck... that is enough for me..." Women assume that because you enjoy their tits and vag that you also enjoy them.
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 12:03 PM
1

Does not compute: ERROR, ERROR. Shutdown and restart required. Entering Safe-Mode.
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 12:00 PM
5

Exactly this. Ride it out and let them fire you. Get it documented if you can. Look for other work that is more suitable.
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 10:56 AM
2

I am glad that you enjoy and can relate to my comment. This atrocious behavior is plain as day; it is the giant elephant in the room, yet the vast majority of people pretend that it does not exist. I have walked away from women... their hypocrisy and selfishness has driven me away. I am a man of truth and justice... and one can find neither in the company of a woman. I am very happy with my uncomplicated life now, and will continue to be single and enjoy my life and freedom. When I have worked a…
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 03:00 AM
1

It is fantastic to have the blinders removed and be able to see their behavior and actions for what they are. I have decided Monk mode is for me, but I have already had my time in with pumping and dumping. Got it out of my system. To each their own... but it is definitely necessary to identify what a woman's words and actions truly mean.
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 02:54 AM
3

Toss some red-pills to the boys when they come to pick your daughter up for a date. Make MGTOWs of all of them.
/r/MGTOW29/07/17 05:32 PM
11

Damn man, I was enjoying that story until you walked into her trap. I experienced this phenomenon several times, but after taking the red-pill they become so much more obvious. When I had decided I was going to just pump and dump girls left and right is when I discovered so many of them were chasing after me seeking attention and validation. The more I told them I wasn't interested the more they pursued me. It is ridiculous. Since going MGTOW I simply act aloof while quietly observing their body…
/r/MGTOW29/07/17 05:29 PM
11

I don't own a T.V. I don't use FB, twitter, snapchat, or any other social media app. I have my job, my hobbies, and my close friends that I invest my time and energy in. Once in awhile I will observe what the masses waste their entire life on. I'll be in a waiting room at the doctor or in a pub and on the t.v. will be some reality show bullshit which everyone is glued to and eating up. Or they are aimlessly wandering outside while glued to their smartphones. It really is becoming this: http://im…
/r/MGTOW29/07/17 05:23 PM
8

Don't forget horses and pigs
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 03:24 AM
5

Focus on the positive, you still have the house. And use the time and money required by the repairs as reminders to never pursue women again.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 01:37 PM
3

Indeed. Just focus on that thought when they start calling and approaching you over the next few years... after they have hit the wall and are looking for a beta bucks.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 12:52 PM
6

100% Agree. Unfortunately, the exact opposite was repeatedly pounded into my head by society, parents, and other authority figures. That is why MGTOW forums such as this one are absolutely necessary for young men today. They need at least one source of honest information.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 12:51 PM
2

And that is how she will behave throughout the entire relationship. She will withhold or conceal the truth until it is absolutely necessary to reveal it. And even then she will likely reveal it only partially. Women and their games... no thank you.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 12:23 PM
10

In my opinion, increasing resilience is similar to increasing strength at the gym. It is slow painful progress that requires a lot of work and dedication. The progress may be so slight that it is nearly unnoticeable. One key is healthy living. Having a strong foundation of health allows to effectively build upon it and maximize potential. Healthy diet, proper portion size, good sleep habits, normal sleep/wake cycle, daily routine (wake up, exercise, diet, etc), proper exercise, stress management…
/r/MGTOW25/07/17 12:37 PM
11

The juice is not worth the squeeze. Cheers bud
/r/MGTOW25/07/17 12:28 PM
151

But she said she was sorry!! That means her son cannot be angry with her!!! /s
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 12:51 PM
1

No wonder so many men have chosen to opt out, sit back, have a beer, and watch this world burn down.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 11:25 AM
10

That poor bastard will kill himself when she leaves him and takes everything that he has.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 11:15 AM
11

Yes; they want all of the benefits with zero of the work. They are damn children.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 11:11 AM
20

It is simple: she wants to have her cake and eat it too. She wants it all, the bad-boy and the responsible provider, the artist/musician and the professional, the sexy Chad in bed and the blue pill nice guy, the fun carefree lifestyle and the steady inflow of cash and prizes. Fucking women... always believe they are entitled to it all, and then some.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 11:09 AM
35

AWALT and Briffault's Law
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 11:05 AM
12

I would say it is normal. In my opinion, you have reached the Acceptance/Indifference phase. You have realized that the cost/benefit ratio is completely lopsided, and you have observed the true nature of females. Once you hit the acceptance phase all of the lies and myths that were shoved down your throat by parents, family, media, and society are left behind to rot. When you no longer glance at a woman and wonder "but what if...?" then you know that you have GYOW.
/r/MGTOW23/07/17 05:03 PM
6

Cheers comrade.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 12:30 PM
2

Yes, and one that usually causes severe weight gain for the person taking it. This is probably some 250+ fat crazy whale.
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 09:47 AM
6

100%. Anyone who can't see that is doomed to suffer in this lifetime.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 05:09 PM
8

No, Fuck you too!! Cheers!
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 05:09 PM
2

Yes sir. You can be smart and reduce your risk, but there is still a chance to bite the dust.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 02:14 PM
2

I'm in the U.S. and all motorcycles manufactured in last 40 - 45 years automatically have the headlamp on at all times. I keep my high-beam switched on as well, and you can get aftermarket devices which cause the headlight to alternate between low and high beam constantly, to make it more apparent to other drivers. We have a saying over here "Look twice, save a life" in reference to remaining vigilant for motorcyclists. In the area I live in, nearly everyone is guilty of completing rolling stops…
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 01:44 PM
3

I have had near death experiences while doing nearly all of my hobbies, but I still do them. When I first started riding I was worried about hitting a deer while riding at night. Very quickly I realized that the biggest threat was other drivers. I've heard plenty of stories of motorcyclists stopped at a red light being rammed from behind by a vehicle going full speed.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 01:05 PM
6

Depression. That unbearable weight that slowly drains the life out of you. Yes, I am acquainted with that motherfucker... I cannot tell you how long I lived with depression. Constant depression. Dark depression. Since I was a very young lad. You are correct. As a young male, nobody offered help for years. Nobody took me aside, talked to me, questioned me, comforted me. It was a dark and dreary childhood, full of misery, pain, and abuse. Suicide... always the elephant in the room. Eventually, aft…
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 01:16 AM
2

Live for you, brother. It is that simple.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 12:54 AM
2

Here are my two cents. You are happy with your life; you are happy with how you live. That is all that matter... that is what makes us MGTOW. We live life the way we each see fit; not the way our family, friends, or society dictate. If you are a true MGTOW, you are free for the rest of your life. No chains. No wife. No plantation. No master. The issue at work is that you still give a fuck what people think about you. You still care what they say about you, both to your face and behind your back.…
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 12:44 AM
3

Yes. If I would do it for a man, then I will consider doing it for a woman... unless she is a bitch, caked in clown paint, speaking in that idiotic "dumb girl" voice, is attempting to shit-test me, or has directly asked for the favor. That disqualifies about 98% of women...
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 01:16 PM
2

Holy shit man, have some self respect and get your fucking balls back.
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 01:03 PM
2

This is a complex question to answer. In short, yes you can be a MGTOW and a gentleman. Where it falls apart is if (a) you are being a gentleman in order to gain favor, make an impression, or simply provide service to a woman, or (b) you perform "gentleman" acts specifically for women and not men. For myself, the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction from what I've been trained by society. I purposefully do not hold doors for women, unless they are disabled, elderly, or have just held a d…
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 01:01 PM
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"That's all it takes really. Pressure.... and time."
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 01:00 AM
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I posted this a few days ago... my thoughts on the subject: Why is there such a focus on dying alone? Consider this: the actual final moments of death occur in a very short time span. Many people are either unconscious, delirious, hallucinating, or medically sedated during their last hours and are likely not aware of exactly who is at the bedside or what they are saying. Yet people (especially women) place such a huge focus on dying and the process of death. However, they seem to ignore the deca…
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 12:56 AM
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Beautiful post man. I deal with depression, which is basically the acknowledgement of the dark, ugly truths about life and feeling powerless to change it. But I have decided not to let that stop me from achieving my goals. I am a man. I have had my own experience with that; much more than I care to remember. It is a demon that I keep in chains, and it takes vigilance to ensure it does not break free. This includes very little intake of alcohol, maintaining a high level of physical activity, and …
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 10:19 PM
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I can respect that. IMO, the most important aspect of that is that you are ready to leave when they start to irritate you. Too many men still cling to that sense of obligation and responsibility to their relatives simply because of sharing DNA, and they are willing to put up with way too much bullshit and abuse. Well done on your accomplishments brother, sincerely. If you have drive and focus to become an M.D. while family members are discouraging you, you will go far in this world. Just be sure…
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 07:51 PM
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Good job brother, keep up the hard work. Quick questions: why don't you cut these negative, toxic, despicable family members out of your life? I have female family members that are similar: talked down about me behind my back, spread gossip and rumors, said I would fail out of college and that I needed someone in my life to watch over me so I didn't fuck up all the time. I do not visit or speak with them anymore.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 06:31 PM
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Yes sir. When I approach that point I will make one more adventure with my final days. As far as I can go, I will push myself to a spot I deem suitable for my final minutes. I will take advantage of having a clear mind to enjoy the scenery, look around me at what beauty there is to appreciate in the world. And then I will relax as I depart by whatever means I see fit.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 03:11 PM
3

Good perspective. Don't focus on the time, money, and resources wasted on your children. Focus on what time and money you have left to invest in the enjoyment of your own life. Cheers brother.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 03:06 PM
5

Why is there such a focus on dying alone? Consider this: the actual final moments of death occur in a very short time span. Many people are either unconscious, delirious, hallucinating, or medically sedated during their last hours and are likely not aware of exactly who is at the bedside or what they are saying. Yet people (especially women) place such a huge focus on dying and the process of death. However, they seem to ignore the decades leading up to death when arguing about why we should fin…
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 03:03 PM
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Stay away from women; all of them. Focus on your classes, ROTC, your military career, and your personal interests and hobbies. Especially since our military has become so pro-woman PC lately... one false accusation from any chick will ruin your entire career in the blink of an eye. Good luck
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 10:54 AM
8

They are good at getting white knights to serve them while they sit back and relax. Blue-pill simps are a problem.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 10:42 AM
8

Gentlemen, get a vasectomy.
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 01:38 AM
4

To each his own. I used to watch porn everyday, usually multiple times a day. This had two drawbacks: a huge waste of time, and eventually sexual intercourse was no longer satisfying because my brain had become used to pornography. As I got older I decreased my porn usage and am much happier. I would suggest that if you are going to watch porn (I still do occasionally) that you become very disciplined while doing so. Set limits: limit your frequency and the time spent watching porn. Don't go on …
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 03:34 PM
11

Porn-induced erectile dysfunction. Short explanation: you watch porn habitually, and your brain begins to link arousal and erectile response to this. Heavy visual stimulation (i.e. switching from one porn video to another in rapid succession, skipping to the scenes which arouse you the most) as well as physical stimulation (your hand) is what your brain gets trained to respond to. Dopamine and other neurotransmitters are released in accordance to these stimuli. The outcome it that a real female …
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 03:30 PM
6

Find out their gay son is actually a MGTOW with the same idea... new best-friend found.
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 12:10 PM
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Thanks for the reply. I would agree it could possible be a "set-up"; however, I would fully support the firefighter's actions. He put up a camera because he has had previous altercations with the neighbor and wanted evidence of this. I didn't see him make any aggressive actions, and the old man pulls a fucking revolver out suddenly. Did the old man shoot back after getting hit? I see impacts in the bushes, but hard to tell which direction they come from.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 09:33 PM
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Depends on the environment. In the workplace? Ignoring women or responding in a manner that they do not like can easily put a bulls-eye on your back and earn you a visit from HR. Telling them that you are gay isn't rejection, and it makes them feel awkward since gays are a protected population. Family? Makes them shut the fuck up finally.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 09:28 PM
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I wonder how many MGTOWs have considered claiming to be gay just to get these harpies off of their back. What would the pros/cons be?
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 09:20 PM
1

Good shoot. Have any background on this? I can't tell for sure, but it seems like the old man got a few shots off after being hit. If so, that firefighter should have dumped a few more rounds into him.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 09:14 PM
5

I don't accept that her body was failing her. I think part of that was an act, an over-exaggeration of her fatigue to gain attention and sympathy. I don't have any respect for her. Either a 12 mile hump with a 50lb ruck broke her completely, or she exaggerated it to get attention. Both are shameful.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 06:15 PM
3

Thank you.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 06:08 PM
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She is being constantly encouraged by her peers and instructors. They are pushing, motivating, and driving her to get up and walk the last 30 meters. This is the exact opposite of what most males in the military experience, which is constant ridicule and encouragement to give up, quit, and take the easy way out. Willpower is pushing forward in spite of the environment around you, not because of it.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 02:15 PM
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She looks like one of ex-gfs, minus the belly button piercing (and engagement ring). Even with the tight, toned, sexy body, strong libido, and good looks... she still wasn't worth my time. I doubt his version is any better.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 12:38 PM
10

Instead of filing a complaint about harassment you simply packed up and left? You can find shitty neighbors anywhere you move, knowing how to respond to them is a skill I would recommend.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 12:24 PM
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It is a harsh lesson to learn brother. IMO, it is more difficult for you because it went from an enjoyable and fulfilling relationship to instantly being dumped/ghosted. It seems you didn't get to experience the bad aspects of a relationship (manipulation, arguing, crying, sucking up all of your money, isolating you from friends and family). I don't have much advice for you, other than to read a shit ton of red pill truths on the sidebar here (and at TRP) and figure out if you want to allow a yo…
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 11:49 AM
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Even for attractive women it is not as glamorous and exciting as they expect. The vast majority of attention that they receive as married women is from men who only want to pump and dump them. They overestimate their SMV and ability to lock down a new husband. And all of a sudden its a horde of cats and a pile of box wine... and "where have all the good men gone!?!?"
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 11:23 AM
1

Absolutely. Women have no concept of cause and effect. They never fully understand that actions have consequences. They can't even plan one week into the future, let alone a year or decade.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 02:17 AM
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I would guarantee that she jumps into bed on the first date (or shortly thereafter) and the guys leave after they get what they wanted. She probably is "meh" in the sex department, and nothing in the looks, personality, or intelligence department will make up for that... especially if guys get access to her vagina almost immediately after meeting her. In other words, she rode the CC too hard and too long, and now she is too old to play the game anymore.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 12:17 AM
6

And of course in the comments the women come out to play the victim once again. They can't consider any perspective other than what their emotions dictate.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 12:10 AM
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PUSSY. It's a hell of a drug.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 08:42 PM
3

Yet you still speak of influencing and changing society, and you encourage others to think as you do. This is MGTOW, not "Go the way I think you should go." And personal insults do not help strengthen your arguments.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 04:05 PM
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Nope. No return to the plantation for me. They must rely on themselves at this point.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 03:06 PM
3

IDGAF about society anymore. Obviously you still do. I turned my back on a society which deemed me worthless: a resource to be used up, discarded, and replaced. A society which constantly shits on men and blames us for their problems and fuck-ups. Have fun trying to change society and enjoy remaining on the plantation as you try to influence the slave-master. I choose to live for myself.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 02:44 PM
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Fuck em. Beat them at their own game. Live a minimalist existence, leave other people alone, and don't contribute to a society that has deemed you effectively worthless. I'm not slaving away on a plantation to serve a master, and shaming tactics don't work here.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 02:47 AM
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I don't play video games. I like them, but I am too busy making money, going on adventures, trying out new hobbies, and living life in the manner I see fit. However, if someone wants to just work the minimum hours and play video games the rest of their life, I am not going to shit on them.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 02:45 AM
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Questions are always welcomed here, as long as the person asking is not just a troll. Here are some answers: be advised, they are my opinion, as every MGTOW may feel differently. Part of Going Your Own Way is not having to swallow everyone else's beliefs or opinions. Yes, marriage is always bad for a man. The reason for this is simple: the laws behind marriage grant the woman unbalanced power over the man. Thanks to feminism, a gynocentric society, and no-fault divorces, women can rake their hus…
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 02:41 AM
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I don't care if they fuck a different guy every single day or get smashed every weekend in a gang bang. But they should at least own it. Don't pretend to be a virtuous, sweet, innocent young lady when you are taking a different Chad's cock in any hole he desires. If you want to be a slut, good for you. But accept that you are a slut, that it's easy as hell to spread your legs and take a different dick every night, and stop playing the victim card. And stop lying about it when you regret it due t…
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 02:05 AM
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There is no meaning in this lifetime other than that which we personally ascribe to it. Society has taken all of men's inventions, creations, and products of hard labor and basically stated that they are worthless. Now, the value of "equality", feminism, LGBTQTIA rights, virtue-signaling, and SJW propaganda has been highlighted as the priority... while men have been declared to be animals, toxic, sub-human, and (my favorite) obsolete. In a sense, society has already declared men's lives as a was…
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 01:58 AM
2

I cashed my chips in at the right time...
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 01:43 AM
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IDGAF. Let them drown in their sorrows... I have trails to hike, miles to cruise, rivers to paddle, and skies to fly through.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 01:27 AM
6

Women do not love their sons. They see their own flesh and blood as a resource.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 09:29 PM
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Your mother is a selfish lying cunt, your girlfriend is a selfish lying whore. Play the game. You have to deal with your mother for the sake of your 11-year-old brother. Be there for him, be a big brother and show him the path. Build and maintain a relationship with your dad. He didn't cheat on your mother because he is an asshole, he did it to reclaim his masculinity. Put the bottle down, you won't find answers in there. You will just wake up with a hangover and feeling more sorry for yourself.…
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 02:19 AM
2

Holy shit... that bitch blew up!
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 10:30 PM
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But millennial men haven't put a collective foot down. No generation of men has. MGTOWs are a bunch of independent thinkers of all ages and backgrounds. I don't identify with a generation, a political party, an ethnicity, or a culture. I am a MGTOW... I don't need an -ism to define myself.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 07:27 PM
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Your brother is in for a world of hurt if he tolerates that bullshit. He needs to drop her ass ASAP.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 07:23 PM
2

Competition. Men can set aside their differences, cooperate, compromise, and focus on teamwork because we have higher goals that we strive to accomplish. It is impossible to create, build, or maintain something if all of the workers are intolerant of each other. This transcends work and career, it is also true for interactions in daily life. Women can not focus on a common goal. They never look at the greater good or bigger picture. To them it is all about personal security and resources. And we…
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 12:07 PM
1

I agree; I should have used a better phrase than "on the fence." As I said, this is to prevent men from taking the red pill and awakening... it is to lull them back to sleep. Men have access to all sorts of information and stories today, so it has become more difficult for women to cover up the truth. These studies are a distraction for men, a carrot to focus on while they are surrounded by available red pills.
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 01:25 PM
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It will work to some extent for certain guys who are on the fence. For men on the verge of taking the red pill and awakening, women/feminists may simply need to throw some obscure "study" or statistic at men to keep them from searching for the truth. The facts are in plain sight: divorce rape, alimony, CS, limited to non-existent reproductive rights for men, female nature, manipulation tactics, etc. However, if women keep men blindfolded and distracted with a few lies and a whiff of the almighty…
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 12:57 PM
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This is the beauty of solitude. You find those that also value isolation, peace, and silence... and you are never truly alone again. My best friends are the ones I can be with for hours while hardly speaking at all.
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 01:11 AM
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I personally only know one woman who is selfless and genuinely has empathy for other people. The problem is that most women can ACT like they are caring and nurturing; however, if you observe them in a few situations you can see the coldness rise to the surface. Not only does their nature cause them to behave in this manner, but society constantly encourages women to think and act selfishly for their own gain. It takes a lot of effort and discipline for a woman to give a damn about other people,…
/r/MGTOW30/06/17 12:14 PM
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That depends. Are you a MGTOW or are you a slave to society and its brainwashing principles of family, responsibility, and "manning up?" If you take responsibility for these children and try to become a father figure in their life, you must realize that upon accepting this role that everything that goes wrong will be your fault. Your sister will continuously blame you for her horrible life decisions: kids get in trouble at school for acting up, your fault. Kids don't get straight As in class, yo…
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 11:16 AM
1

OP has a very disturbing definition of the word "friend"
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 10:55 PM
1

Hiking and backpacking are great. Solitude, but still likely to cross path with a few other hikers along the way. You can choose trails that are more highly traveled to find more fellow hikers. Kayaking, running, and cycling are good to. You can go alone or with a few other people; again, should be able to find fellow MGTOW along the way. Shooting is another good hobby, although getting more invested and expensive compared to the others I mentioned. But also should find MGTOW at the range. Motor…
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 10:53 PM
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Oh, I see. You are just here to troll. Fuck off.
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 04:29 PM
2

I feel you, brother. It is discouraging to lose friend after friend, and especially your brothers, to women. However, it is basically useless to attempt to red-pill them. They are locked into their worlds: their false beliefs and screwed up priorities. The only way to redpill a fellow man is when he is READY and WILLING to open his eyes and seek the truth. You can't force it onto them, you have to offer redpill answers when they are asking the right questions. Usually this occurs after a break u…
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 03:58 PM
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"The perfect killing machine. All they do is swim, and eat, and make little sharks." And that is women, my friends. Walking around aimlessly, consuming endlessly, and releasing crotch spawn... which allows her to consume even more of your resources.
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 03:48 PM
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You disagree because you are blinded by blue pill beliefs. You see the nature and actions of women right in front of you, yet still come here for an explanation and advice. AWALT. If you were honest with yourself you would cut her out of your life, not attend the wedding, and stop seeking validation in female "friends."
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 03:44 PM
3

Will get a slap on the hand.
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 01:17 PM
1

My fellow MGTOW brother, do not regret discovering MGTOW so late; rather, rejoice that you have found it so soon. Be grateful that you did not have to experience the mental, emotional, and financial anguish that is marriage (and divorce). You are decades ahead of others your age... be wise and do not forget the lessons that you have learned. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 01:17 PM
1

This is why I heavily restrict my alcohol intake; my IQ drops quickly with every drink, and those primal urges to pursue a chick and fuck her arise in full force. It makes me an easier target and I know if women are around I will do something that I'll regret in the near future. You would think you would be safe to get drunk in your own home... apparently not. Good job on sobering up and realizing the dangerous path in front of you. A lesson to learn from and keep in mind for future encounters. …
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 11:15 AM
2

225 total or per side? I have yet to see a self-proclaimed "fit" chick do 225 with good form, let alone attempt anything higher than that.
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 05:32 PM
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Well done, brother. Put that wookie monster in her place
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 05:04 PM
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They still go for their alpha-fuck. A broke man with no job, lots of tattoos, a good physique, a shit car, and a few felonies can still pull plenty of pussy without trying very hard.
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 05:01 PM
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What are your other interests? Getting active into previous hobbies or attempting to develop interests in new hobbies opens up all sorts of doors and interactions. You may meet some other MGTOWs. I enjoy outdoor activities, so for me its hiking, backpacking, kayaking, running, skydiving, hunting, or riding my motorcycle. Each one is a unique experience, and I have met several great people while doing them. On the flipside, I have had entire days of solitude while hiking the mountains or hunting …
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 03:37 PM
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Same here. Some observations that I took note of: Women would rarely acknowledge the fact that I had opened the door for them. They just stroll through like it's your duty to accommodate them. When women go through doors and someone is immediately behind them, they almost never hold it open so the other person can grab it. They open it halfway (the bare minimum) and slink through, allowing the door to close immediately behind them. Doesn't matter if the person is disabled, elderly, has their han…
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 02:37 PM
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Or the paradoxical effect: when you finally say "fuck it" and don't chase them anymore, they take notice and start chasing after you.
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 02:00 PM
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Because to women it is not about talking, getting to know someone, enjoying time together, or starting and developing a relationship. It is purely about securing resources, whether it be status, money, attention, or all three. They see your time as worthless; in effect, they see you as worthless... other than what you can provide them. It is the same reason why women don't even acknowledge short, poor, fat, or ugly guys... because in their mind they do not provide a benefit so they are not even …
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 01:10 PM
3

Beef 'N Cheddar. That damn gonorrhea drip is back again...
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 01:07 PM
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Well, the majority of them DO have genital herpes or genital warts... so that is reason enough to stay away from them.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 02:14 AM
13

Sit back, relax, grab a beer, and watch it all burn down. Cheers brother
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 02:05 AM
13

RED. FLAG.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 02:02 AM
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Well said. Even if they do need help, how will they learn from their mistakes if they are constantly rescued?? In previous relationships I always had trouble with women because they would constantly complain about their daily problems. Work, friends, family, money.... it was never-ending. I, being a man, offered possible solutions to resolve these problems. Don't like your job... network and apply elsewhere. Mom is driving you crazy... don't spend an hour talking to her on the phone. Can't seem …
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 02:01 AM
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I agree with the general sentiment in the other comments. Women get complacent in a relationship; the overestimate their SMV and believe that their partners will accept anything, because vagina. It is why they don't handle rejection or break-ups (if the male was the one to initiate the break-up) particularly well; it catches them off-balance and shatters their illusion of being a princess. Welcome brother. Enjoy your new life.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 01:55 AM
7

To each his own, but your mother sounds toxic as hell and if I were in your shoes I would have cut her out of my life a long time ago. Oh, and she isn't sorry at all for her actions and behavior.
/r/MGTOW24/06/17 06:42 PM
2

No. Any relationship I have had with a woman, whether it be fuck buddies, FWB, or serious LTR, the woman has never been worth the time and effort that she required. Nothing but pure emotion and illogical thought. I don't need that pain and misery in my life.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 11:45 AM
4

I don't know... since I've GMOW I am pretty fucking happy!
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 03:40 PM
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Their extreme hypocrisy and their ability to hamster-wheel justification for every action, thought, emotion, or motive they have. You can have all of the evidence and undeniable proof stacked against them, and they will still respond in the same manner (order of actions may vary): *Deny/Lie *Blame someone/something else *Cry/Manipulate emotionally *Become enraged, use strawmen, ad hominem, or gaslighting arguments They are pure emotion and no logic.
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 03:34 PM
3

Yep. Aim for the middle, look pissed off, and speed up instead of slowing down. I had this occur when I was running one day, on a very wide path (15 - 20 feet at least). Big group of loud feminazis taking up 95% of the path. I stick to the right hand side because that is where I run anyways; low and behold a woman makes eye contact with me and purposefully steps directly into my path. I got pissed and sped up, and started dropping my shoulder to prepare for full contact. Bitch got smart real qui…
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 12:26 PM
1

When I left my ex she immediately filed for child support. I told her that if she felt the need to involve the government in our finances that I would never pay more than what I was legally obligated to. The bitch spat some vile crap and proceeded with her application. Every time the state has made a decision or assessment regarding my CS she has tried to fight it tooth and nail. She always has a sad story of why she needs more of my money. She has even contacted my family and friends to bad-mou…
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 03:38 PM
1

I take it you are serving on the enlisted side then, correct? Keep up the good work, don't let your parents negativity sidetrack you.
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 05:29 PM
2

How much time do you have left in college? Are you going officer or enlisted route (I would highly recommend being commissioned vs. serving as an enlisted man)? Hang in there, work your ass off and keep your goals in mind. Once you are able to leave the house you have no incentive or responsibility to return. Do not forget their attitudes and behavior in the future, when they complain that they never see you or that you are never at home for the holidays. They are just seeking your time, resourc…
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 04:06 PM
2

Find intelligent, like-minded, men who are goal-oriented and driven to associate with. Usually older, but not necessarily. It's a relief to have another MGTOW or non-normie to converse with... makes you realize you aren't the only sane person in this screwed up world. Cheers
/r/MGTOW14/06/17 12:43 PM
1

Gentlemen, if you are going to roll the dice, at least get a vasectomy.
/r/MGTOW14/06/17 12:10 PM
5

Red-pill rage phase; use it as motivation, don't let it consume you. I would suggest hitting the gym, going for a run, or doing some activity to burn the excess anger down in a productive manner. I would bet a substantial amount that your ex-gf contacts you in the future. If this guy pump-and-dumps her, it will be sooner rather than later. She will use the typical manipulative tactics to sink her claws into you again: crying, "needing" support and companionship, bringing up her dad's cancer and …
/r/MGTOW08/06/17 10:51 AM
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Risk/Benefit analysis Want children but can't have them due to having a vasectomy: Regret Have unwanted children because you avoided having a vasectomy: Child support Garnished wages Inability to seek other employment or education due to CS liabilities Inability to see children due to biased family court Arrest and incarceration for failure to pay CS obligations Basically a legal slave; decreased happiness and quality of life, depression, loss of freedom Think very carefully about that decision
/r/MGTOW04/06/17 02:58 PM
4

Also the author. Can you imagine the Times letting a male write an article like this? "Misogynist!" Ummm, is that not a man? /s
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 12:59 PM
2

I'm going to guess around 325 lbs, give or take 25.
/r/MGTOW22/05/17 02:03 AM
1

Well, since around 35% of women are obese and another 35% are overweight, her body type is technically "average." Fucking hell.
/r/MGTOW22/05/17 02:02 AM
1

I would honestly have to look it up. I know the risks are elevated when the woman is > 35 years of age; no elevated risks related to male's age. As far as Robertsonian Translocation, I believe the woman has ~ 15% chance of having a trisomy 21 baby, whereas a man has a < 2% chance.
/r/MGTOW22/05/17 02:01 AM
5

Down syndrome is much, much, much more likely to be a result of nondisjunction of the female's ovum rather than a male's sperm.
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 11:31 PM
1

I've always been in shape, and I have continued to stay in shape since becoming a MGTOW. I never really placed much focus on being in shape to look good or attract women, I really just enjoyed lifting heavy weight and challenging myself to push my limits. I do have a healthier diet now, and combine a lot more running and cardio with my workouts instead of only heavy weights. Mostly just push moderate weight now for higher reps while taking shorter breaks.
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 11:06 PM
6

Major bullet dodged, good thinking mate.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 04:12 PM
19

100% accurate. My count is similar and I can honestly look back and say not one of those girls was worth the time, drama, and hassle. On the other hand, it is nice to have slept with a bunch of woman so I can personally know that I am not missing anything spectacular by going monk mode. I can understand how it is difficult for virgin guys or incels to be surrounded by sex (slutty-dressed women in public, sex in media and advertising) and believe all the hype behind it. Trust us guys... porn and …
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 04:08 PM
13

Women ARE diamonds though. Their value and purpose has been grossly exaggerated, and we are told that they are very rare, unique, and worth the high cost. In reality, they are a dime a dozen and almost completely worthless.. but will still cost you a major chunk of your income while providing nothing in return.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 04:02 PM
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Anytime. It must be accepted that by choosing the road less traveled we will experience some loneliness and sacrifice along the way. However, you will never be truly alone... as I (and many others on this forum) consider every other MGTOW as a brother. Cheers Cunt_Robber!
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 06:43 PM
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I have had to do this multiple times, and I am sure every MGTOW on this forum can relate to this experience. You made the right decision, those blue-pill friends are completely toxic to your happiness and success. It is difficult to cut loose a longtime friend, but sometimes it is necessary. Especially when our friends change along the way, and not for the better. If I observe a friend's change in character I ask myself "if I just met them today, would I want to start a friendship with them?" If…
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 06:39 PM
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There will always be another MGTOW to find and share a beer with. Do not allow the fear of ending up alone drive you to accept a slave's shackles.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 06:36 PM
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No way. I have shed blue-pill mangina friends along the way, mostly because they did the same thing as OP's friend (white knighting, hoes before bros, catering to the pussy, etc). After their girlfriends dumped them I never returned to pick up the pieces. Past behavior is the most reliable predictor for future behavior, and the same "friend" will make similar decisions when a new vagina is presented to him. Cut the dead-weight, go your own way.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 06:34 PM
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I would agree. You still run the risk of false assault/rape charges and STDs... but hopefully it is relatively safer.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 06:30 PM
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100% agree. Any problems I have ever had in the professional setting have been because a woman did not like something I did and tried to get the boss or HR involved. If they notice you and you don't behave exactly as they desire, they will personally mark you for destruction. Women use gossip, drama, HR complaints, and playing the victim card to destroy men in the workplace every day. It is better to remain invisible than to have woman interested in you, because they throw hissy fits the second …
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 11:16 AM
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It is phenomenal when they do approach men: it is in such an awkward and bumbling manner because they have no idea how to act. However, usually there manner to approach is simply to walk up, make a flirtatious comment, and then stand there waiting for the man to do 95% of the work. I've had very attractive professional women approach me on the damn street corner, and they were as awkward about it as a pimply high school freshman trying to ask a hot girl to the prom. Stuttering and stammering, sh…
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 11:10 AM
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Welcome, and great job brother. It is unfortunate about your sister, but on the plus side you noticed her mindset and behavior and dodged a bullet. Never mix friends/family with business for this reason... oh, and AWALT.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 11:05 AM
1

I miss some mindless XBox with the guys during shitty weather or drunken Friday nights. Original HALO with four TVs and 16 players was the best... so much shit-talking!
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 01:45 AM
2

Very good
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 01:43 AM
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Hell... I have had mostly the same furniture for over a decade. Sometimes I pick up things that friends/family are throwing out or giving away because they are moving or upgrading. More money for the savings account or hobbies
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 01:41 AM
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Pre-nups can be thrown out at the judges whim. Not marrying can still result in common law marriage in many states. Simply cohabitating with a female can result in them being awarded assets. Simply dating women opens up the possibility of false abuse, assault, or rape charges. Even if a woman has a higher net worth and annual income than you she can still quit her job or reduce her hours (suddenly making you the primary earner), gain full custody of children and file for child support (and those…
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 01:36 AM
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Hahaha so true. I'm 6'0" and I would love to drop 8 inches of height when I step up to the squat rack. On the flipside, its nice having a long stride during endurance runs.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 01:30 AM
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Exactly. Anyone who wants to argue against AWALT should be reminded that MOST or ENOUGH women are like that. And unfortunately, it is too easy for them to chameleon their appearance as a unicorn.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 01:04 AM
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Most of us are still physically and sexually attracted to good looking women. Without a conscious effort it is too easy to forget the manipulation, lies, and deceit that women use to snare a man. Many of us need are two minutes of hate as a reminder of how dangerous they truly are. The opposition knows this... and that is why they are so hellbent on silencing our discussion.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 01:03 AM
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That is awesome! Good luck; I hope the weather is suitable.
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 10:55 PM
1

Instead of acknowledging the flaws in the study that you cited or the data that was provided in study I provided, you resort to anecdotal evidence and patronizing remarks. I'm sure you'll convince EVERYBODY with that argument.
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 02:23 PM
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Eh, a lot of guys will seek out a cougar or MILF to pump and dump. The satisfaction that older women receive during these interactions is short lived: once the guy stops replying to her texts she drops into despair again.
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 01:56 PM
1

Yep; in terms of marriage and divorce Golem would have stolen the ring back and then pushed Frodo into the inferno below, all without a second thought
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 01:42 PM
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Every woman hits the wall at a different age. But 30 seems to be a nice average (also the age that women dread because it is associated with "getting old")
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 08:15 PM
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And it SHOULD be easy to see how manipulative and selfish female nature is... yet billions of men are blind to it.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 08:13 PM
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Sam-wise: the red-pill friend trying desperately to make his blue-pill cuck friend wake up and see the truth
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 05:00 PM
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Women rate 80% of men as "below average" in attractiveness. Since this is statistically impossible, it goes without saying that women devalue a male's physical appearance. The study you posted does not specify if participants were only rated by the opposite sex or not, but I assume they would be. Every participant rated themselves and other participants (unsure if males rated only females or ALL participants). It does not appear that men overestimate their looks, but simply that women rate men a…
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 04:58 PM
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I agree. Why quit and give these cunts exactly what they want? Counter-offer that both of them need to be fired and that you need a raise that is effective immediately. Any stalling, foot-dragging, or excuse making by the CTO and you walk away immediately. Since OP already has something lined up there is nothing to lose by making the counter offer.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 02:03 PM
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Exactly, and this is probably why women and society are so threatened by such a man. If a rich and famous man can choose to turn down sex when it is being thrown at him... what about the average guy who is expected to work and sacrifice himself for sex?
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 11:52 AM
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No worries... it probably didn't help that my other prerequisites were reasonable; I should have separated them. I personally have had women with A cups to natural DDs, or all the way to EE (or something ridiculous and obviously fake). I think C cups were probably my favorite, especially on a fit girl who exercised daily. However, I never dismissed the other 98% of women simply for failing to fall into my "preferred" category. Women on the other hand have become so damn entitled that they hate e…
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 11:29 PM
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My preference is to ignore them all and go my own way.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 11:12 PM
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You are 100% correct, a more realistic window would probably be 20 - 22%. In that respect I was being extreme to point out the delusions that women have when they demand a guy who is 6'5" with a 6-pack abs, makes 6 figures a year, and has a 9" dick.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 11:11 PM
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Gentlemen, I don't care if you are a Chad or an Incel, if you have bedded hundreds of women or none. Your value is not defined by the female species or your success with attracting them You whom have truly GYOW have defined your own worth and value. I salute you, and am proud to be among you. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 10:00 PM
2

Yep. I have had several women straight up propose to me. No thanks. Sorry ladies. I have gone my own way.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 09:55 PM
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I hope it does, fuck 'em. That is why I have a little chuckle to myself every time some entitled cunt or feminazi claims that all MGTOW are obese, neckbeard, losers living in their mothers' basements. Honey, I'm in the top 5% of men... and you couldn't pay me enough to ditch my friends and provide you attention for 10 minutes. Fuck these bitches... my time is for my brothers. First round of beers is on me, fellas.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 09:06 PM
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To combat the loneliness find some MGTOW friends to enjoy the day with. Hiking, motorcycles, BBQ & beers, lifting.... never ending options of bro-shit to do with other red-pill men. My favorite memories involve my friends and our having fun together.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 09:01 PM
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Hahaha, good point. "But I only told one person!!!" (Right before I told everyone else)
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 08:55 PM
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I am 6'. Throughout my life I never really noticed another guy's specific height, unless he was taller than me. I couldn't tell you if a friend was 5'7" or 5'11"... I just thought of them as "almost the same height" or "slightly shorter" than myself. If a guy was taller than me I could pick out right away if he was 6'2" or 6'4". It was just not a big deal to me. It is disturbing to discover how many females look at a man's height as a significant factor to his worth as a human being. I've heard …
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 08:54 PM
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If she has more than 12% body fat, do not date her. If she cannot cook and clean every day, do not date her. If she does not have my eye/hair color preference, do not date her. If she is not at least a C cup, do not date her. If she does not make at least 50K a year, do not date her. If she has any student loan debt, do not date her. If she has any crotch spawn, do not date her. If she has ever had an STD/STI, do not date her... I could go on all day. Are they sure they want to play this game?
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 08:47 PM
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Sidenote: That cunt spent more time on her make-up and selfies than she did working out at the gym. As do 99% of women.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 03:49 PM
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ALWAYS. Anything you confide to a married man will be shared with his wife... which will then be shared with everyone she knows.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 03:42 PM
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This is a simple fact. Blue-pill men will alter their behavior and principles to impress or satisfy a woman. Sometimes this occurs rapidly, but usually it is a slow and methodical process over time. Those men slowly withdraw from all of their male spaces and become a servant to a vagina. Blue pill men will cast aside their friends if it means they get access to a cunt.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 02:53 PM
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100% agreed. Every time she bails on you she is getting slammed by Chad's dick. GHOST HER.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 12:37 PM
1

Welcome brother. Keep up the hard work and it will pay off.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 12:34 PM
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100% agreed. I experienced this over time with two friends, one whom was married and the other in an LTR with an SJW super-feminist. The married friend almost completely cut off our friendship due to his wife; guess who he called as soon as she left him for another man? My friend with an LTR completely changed to impress and worship his feminazi girlfriend. He turned into such a blue-pill, mangina hypocrite and basically threw a 15 year friendship down the toilet. Guess who got dumped about a ye…
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 12:27 PM
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Lol, MAJOR red flag
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 04:58 PM
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That is typical. Men identify problems and seek a solution. Women create problems so that someone can listen to them complain. When a woman has a problem I no longer offer advice or assistance. Most of the time they are unhappy when you point out a possible solution.
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 11:57 AM
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EVERY man overestimates their own attractiveness. There are even studies confirming this. Citation needed. If I remember correctly, it is women who generally overestimate their attractiveness. Hence why we have so many obese monstrosities demanding a Prince Charming. My observation is that most men underestimate their looks because women do not throw attention at men the way that we throw it at women. A lot of women provide the most inconspicuous and ambiguous signs when they are interested in a…
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 11:54 AM
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Welcome brother. I am glad to hear you could make it through the divorce process without getting raked over the coals. No child support or alimony to stress about, you are truly fortunate. You may find that women start flocking to you as you GYOW. Your attitude of indifference and aloofness will draw them to you; women will always desire what they cannot easily obtain. Try to ensure that you stick to your MGTOW principles, and come here often for support or camaraderie if you need it. Women will…
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 03:19 AM
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Is MGTOW really bad for society? We have already identified how feminism, the destruction of the family unit, and the emasculation of men has hurt Western society in a major way. MGTOW is the result of that... meaning that the pendulum is starting to swing back the other way. We aren't attempting to fix the problem, we are avoiding it at all costs. Think of two parties at a negotiation table (feminists vs. MRAs). The two parties will bicker over minor details back and forth to attempt to acquire…
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 03:10 AM
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I agree. When I experienced a girlfriend or FWB using sex as a weapon or bargaining chip in order to gain power in our relationship I would simply distance myself and deny them my time and attention. I had gfs who would give me an ultimatum (usually withdrawal of sex was the threat, but sometimes it was termination of the entire relationship) in order to control my behavior; I simply said "That is fine" and walked out. No explanation, no debate, no texts, no phone calls. Sometimes they would cha…
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 06:18 PM
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Sex is over-rated; at least it is after you have gotten a sufficient amount of it. It usually requires a lot of time, energy, money, or jumping through hoops to acquire, is over in a relatively short period of time, has high risks associated with it, and is used as a bargaining chip or power play to control behavior. Masturbation is a much better option. I am thankful that I am in my 30s and my sex drive is more controllable now than in my early 20s. It is like a damn switch that I can turn on o…
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 06:07 PM
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She was angry because your joke was 100% accurate and hit a nerve. She is obviously extremely sensitive about the issue because she knows that deep down she is, in fact, a gold-digger. Secondly, it is ridiculous for an adult to call ANYONE cheap for not spending a specified amount of money on them. Nobody is entitled to my money.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 06:03 PM
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That is when men simply state "I am gender fluid" and then walk right into the ladies room for a huge shit.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 05:55 PM
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Welcome brother! Enjoy your new-found freedom Cheers
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 05:53 PM
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Yes sir, Bros before hoes.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 05:50 PM
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Not everyone who chooses to watch porn is an addict. There are several individuals on this forum who continue to insist that any use of porn is due to an addiction. If a man chooses to watch porn once or twice a week for 15 - 20 minutes at a stretch, he is not an addict. Not every pleasurable experience is feeding an addiction. You sound as though you are projecting a lot of your own weaknesses and insecurities onto everyone else.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 05:48 PM
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I am enjoying the SJW and feminist tears that are still occurring today related to the election results.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 12:39 PM
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Other aspects to consider: She took up a spot in a university that could have been held by someone else (important if she is in a STEM field). Works in position that could have been held by someone more qualified (important in STEM fields, education, etc.) She will create never-ending and damaging drama in her workplace regardless of what position she holds. Decreased productivity and worker morale. She WILL find a beta-bucks that will be more than happy to marry her. Another man destroyed. She …
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 12:02 PM
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Certainly one of the most difficult truths to learn, but by far the most important (in my opinion).
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 11:49 AM
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As u/Diam35 points out, she was also in a privileged position to get admitted to Harvard.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 11:17 AM
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If they understood it then they would be MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 11:00 AM
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Good luck. Some men are conquered by pussy and its power over them is too much to break.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 10:57 AM
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This is who will take care of you in an emergency situation. And don't worry, she won't lose her job when she fucks up because she will be fucking her boss or co-workers who will then cover for her.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 10:55 AM
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I prefer this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/5zbg67/link_went_his_own_way/
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 10:52 AM
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I am at peace when I am in my own home, in the woods, hiking the mountains, or reading a good book. I am never at peace when women are nearby... as they are the rattesnakes awaiting for your boot to fall near so that they may strike at you. I don't hate venomous snakes, but I certainly do not trust or love them, nor do I relax in their presence.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 10:45 AM
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Congratulations bud! My opinion is to keep up the hard work, excel in your career so that you can be financially secure and enjoy life, and avoid women at all costs. I can go into more details and examples, but every relationship I've had with a woman (whether it was FWB, LTR, or just a booty-call/fuck buddy) has required time, effort, and money that had to be sacrificed from some other aspect of my life. Every single woman also came with a risk value that could not be ignored. Women are emotion…
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 10:37 AM
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Agreed. I am not happy that Donald Trump won the election... but I am ecstatic that Hillary Clinton lost.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 10:28 AM
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These are not necessarily related to MGTOW, just books I enjoyed or had strong characters that I related to. No particular order: Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry Novels by Charles Dickens. Lots of suffering and toil... characters develop strengths to make it through. Great Expectations is a good view of why MGTOW is important. Martin Chuzzlewhit is a good one, although marriage and women virtue exists in it. East of Eden by John Steinbeck (has a good perspective of female nature, and how evil an…
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 09:51 PM
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In my opinion, you should truly GYOW and forget that she exists. You waste time, energy, money, and your mental state on a oneitis (ex-gf??)....
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 09:43 PM
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Time. All my time for me. For hobbies, relaxing, traveling, catching up with the guys, working OT to buy something that I want, exercise, reading.... simply enjoying life. Lifestyle. I wear the clothes that I am comfortable in, drive the type of car that I prefer, eat the foods I enjoy, and make every decision based on MY preferences. Also... that I am in no way responsible for another individual's emotional state.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 09:39 PM
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You sound young, what stage of life are you in? For me, after an early marriage and divorce, I swore I would never marry again. I had plenty of FWB, a few LTRs, and some fuck buddies over the years... it was a slow gradual transition of spending time and energy on women to focusing on myself. Over a span of about five years, women were less and less of a priority for me. I am thankful to say during that time I did not spend much money on them (in fact I probably broke even because they would als…
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 09:22 PM
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Of course looks matter... half the time I got laid was during a guys' night out and I didn't bother approaching any females. Didn't take long for them to make their way to me while showcasing their tits and ass in the most flirtatious manner possible. Sometimes women just want to fuck, other times they are hunting for a beta provider. Oldest tale in the history books.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 09:13 PM
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Welcome brother. Take my word for it: it is better to be invisible to women and go along your merry way. You hit the nail on the head, LTR and marriage are not worth the costs. Live your life as you see fit and enjoy your time on this world. I'm glad you decided to GYOW without having to go through the meat grinder first. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 09:05 PM
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Thanks bud. Their reaction is priceless when I won't give them the time of day, but then I will turn around and converse pleasantly with a group of guys about a random topic. No, bitch... I don't want to talk to you or see your slime-hole. Women over-estimate their value way too much. I aim to be on of the first men to put a crack in their fragile illusion.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 05:43 PM
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I believe you missed my point. I refuse to be a burden and force other people to take care of my basic needs (washing, toileting, hygiene). If I have an acute illness, fine; I will get assistance and basic care (hospitalization or home health) until I recover. But if I am simply old and broken... well then my time is up and I'll end it myself.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 05:38 PM
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Who would want their slave to be happy? If a slave is happy, they must be screwing the master over somehow...
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 05:14 PM
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I see TRP as a stepping stone. It is a good way for men, especially young men, to wake up to the bullshit that they have been spoon fed since birth by EVERYONE. It gives them a different way to view women... as the cold, calculating, selfish beings that they are... and to stop trying to be the "good guy" in order to score pussy. And many men may require that red-pill phase of smashing vag and getting it out of their system in order to have the realization that pussy is overrated. I know I did. I…
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 05:10 PM
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Yep, the price is too damn high for the product being sold. That is why I stopped buying. It is extremely satisfying when women try to flirt with me and I give them no response. I am a Chad who makes 6 figures.... and I'm completely single. You can almost see the smoke coming out of their heads as they try to process my disinterest in them. Pussy is vastly overrated and overpriced. I'd rather be cruising on my motorcycle, hiking some mountains, reading a good book, or hitting the gym rather than…
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 05:05 PM
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Agreed. Have nailed a few MILFs and Cougars in my time, and it was usually great sex and low maintenance. All were a 7 - 8 in attractiveness and they aimed to please in bed. However, after awhile (weeks to months) they all started slowly increasing their demands and created drama. That was my signal to walk.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 04:58 PM
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Nobody will care for me when I am old and broken. Sure, I'll be able to pay for someone to complete basic tasks that I can no longer perform (have groceries delivered, appliances repaired, etc.); however, when my strength fails and I can no longer get out of bed on my own is the day I end it.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 02:51 PM
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We are wired through evolution to procreate with many female partners, not to be in a lifelong monogamous relationship with a single partner. Society has forced that blue pill down our throats for centuries. Men should open their minds and figure out what they want in life, not blindly obey what they are told to desire.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 10:53 PM
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I heard a lecture regarding ADD/ADHD and how it has been over-diagnosed in Western countries. In a study, hundreds of children and teens who had been diagnosed with ADHD and were currently prescribed medications were taken off of their meds and placed in an environment with structure and strict rules. I'm not sure how long the study was, maybe a week or two (or if it were both males and females or only males). At the end of the study the children were re-evaluated by an MD.... only 8% received a…
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 06:30 PM
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No. My thinking is fact/logic based. Religion/God is BS
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 06:17 PM
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There has never been a woman that I had that has ever been worth the time, effort, and money required to get her. In the end, it was always better to go my own way.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 05:45 PM
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You want to build, to have purpose in this life, to create or belong to something larger than yourself it seems. My outlook is that life itself has no meaning, value, or purpose other than what we personally ascribe to it. We are force-fed a preconceived idea of what our purpose in life is, and what is deemed valuable or worthless. Look into yourself and define what YOU value in this life, what YOU want to build or belong to. Relying on others to define your purpose in life is why so many men ar…
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 05:43 PM
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My thoughts exactly. Quit her job, pressuring him to get another job, and insisting on buying a new house. She is stacking the deck in preparation for divorce. Since there are children involved, he should either avoid divorce until they are 18, or reduce his income so that divorce is less appealing for her (less child support and alimony if she leaves).
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 11:51 AM
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It is my opinion that AWALT on a spectrum. We have all observed the openly hypergamous nature of women... those exist on one end of the spectrum and are very easy to identify. They are the women who will end a relationship the instant it stops benefiting her, or at least benefits her less than it did before: the wives that leave the week after their husband loses his job, is diagnosed with a serious disease, inherits a mass of wealth (can instantly take 1/2 through divorce), etc. However, AWALT …
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 11:47 AM
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Forums such as this one make it possible for young men to learn about female nature and behaviour the easy way, rather than going through the gauntlet themselves. I would suggest that you spend some time reading the material on the sidebar, exploring the daily posts, and hearing the stories of men who have attempted to find a "gem" and what the results were. If you then decide to look for a LTR or unicorn, at least you will have a lot of useful knowledge to apply and know the red flags to watch …
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 12:54 PM
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Well done brother. Realizing their negativity and low value and avoiding them accordingly is something most men never accomplish. GYOW young is the best option.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 12:39 PM
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Agreed. Anyone that is attempting to pressure me to change my life or to accept something as "normal and required behavior" is avoided... if not completely cut out of my life.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 12:36 PM
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I will have no pity on you when your soon-to-be-wife cheats on, abuses, sperm-jacks, divorces, and bankrupts you. If you are able to have access to this much information about MGTOW and female nature, and you still decide to get married... well then, you deserve every bit of pain and misery that you are about to experience. Young men, do not be like this individual. GYOW, and live your life for you. OUT.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 08:52 PM
1

TIL. Thanks bud!
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 11:53 AM
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Yep; at that they will sell out their own children to get what they want.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 11:52 AM
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That also works well, and I have taken that route at times. However, sometimes it is interesting to see how long it takes them before they try to reinsert themselves into your life, as well as the manner in which they make their attempt. I always get a small chuckle when I see an ex's name pop up in my text notifications. But to each their own.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 11:51 AM
2

Dignity and self respect are worth far more than all of the pussy in the world. I have never had a girlfriend who was worth the effort, time, money, or energy that she demanded from me. Even the girls who were 9.9/10 and fantastic in bed were not worth the aggravation they caused. The constant shit-tests, game-playing, and well-camouflaged attempts to gain power in the relationship ruined any enjoyment I got out of the relationship. Every girlfriend I have had has tried to: Change me to fit thei…
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 11:44 AM
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Bullet dodged indeed, well done. It is interesting to note how she spun the hamster wheel until she was in control of ending the relationship (in her mind at least). Telling you that she saw you as long term potential except for your "cheap" habits was her way of deflecting the feelings of being turned down, and feeling empowered again. Women believe their company alone is worth dropping $1,200 a night for a hotel room.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 11:34 AM
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"Know your place, slave!!" Now get back to work...
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 11:30 AM
2

They really don't have a single independent thought.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 11:24 AM
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I cannot upvote enough. Maybe women should consider their actions and think them through instead of just living for the moment and being completely self-centered.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 11:22 AM
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Whenever I wanted an ex- or some other chick to quit bothering me, I would always pull this card. When they texted me I would reply "Who is this??" I have NEVER received a follow up text from any of these women.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 11:20 AM
1

I know a few Chads; I also happen to be a Chad. As you said, it is a concept more than anything else. I wasn't always a Chad... and I believe nobody can be a Chad 100% of their life. Such as the guy who could get any girl he wanted through high school and college, and then makes the mistake of catching oneitis and getting married. He will likely become broken by his wife's demands and behavior towards him, or when she decides to fuck his best friend. He is no longer a Chad, is he? I have had a l…
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 11:15 AM
21

Any person who demands that you "stop being cheap" is throwing up a serious red flag and should be cut out of your life immediately.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 11:02 AM
7

Sure, but there are always plenty of more thirsty betas to harvest if one decides to throw in the towel.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 10:58 AM
19

Good... let it crash.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 03:05 AM
20

It's because thirsty bastards KEEP DOING IT. I know guys who will travel 4 hours to have lunch with a girl... who already has a boyfriend. Beta-orbiters... they deserve every bit of pain and despair.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 03:02 AM
2

She admitted to not being able to do her job. Next candidate.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:59 AM
9

Glad to hear it brother, keep focusing on you. Never base your value on women or a woman's opinion.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:58 AM
7

"Bye Felicia"
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:55 AM
19

Absolutely bud... a very straightforward and basic reason to go MGTOW. You get to keep everything that you earn (minus taxes) and decide exactly where that money goes. MGTOW = Freedom
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:54 AM
11

They are all miserable... good. Hope they get used to it, because their futures are full of shitty jobs, box wine, and lots of cats.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:53 AM
12

I hold doors for other guys, the elderly, the disabled, and anyone who is directly behind me with their hands full. I would say > 95% of women will not hold a door open for anyone. In fact, most of them open it just wide enough so that they can slip through... truly doing the bare minimum. I will admit, in the last few weeks there have been multiple times a woman has held a door open for me (I was entering or exiting a building while carrying boxes). But then again, I'm six foot tall, athletic, …
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:52 AM
6

Congratulations OP. To live your life for you and GYOW... you will look back decades from now and be extremely thankful that you were wise enough to make your own decisions. Cheers brother!
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:48 AM
7

I have minimal contact with my mother due to this (as well as many other factors).
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:41 AM
13

AWALT. I've never observed a woman "do the decent thing" without some form of benefit to themselves. They can't even volunteer for a charity without posting it all over every form of social media.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:40 AM
8

This is probably very likely. I suppose it would be a combination of factors, including this projection.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:36 AM
6

She might agree to it; doesn't mean she actually would. Actions, not words...
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:33 AM
19

"With any luck I will"
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:31 AM
11

The mother-in-law vs daughter-in-law battle exists because the mother simply can't accept that her son is giving his love, time, and attention to another woman. She is fighting to maintain her control over him.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:31 AM
14

All of their thinking, decisions, and acting are based on cold calculations. And when the risks catch up with them, they turn on the tears and play the victim. Plenty of white nights to rescue them, or excuse their behavior.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:29 AM
12

Exactly. She decided it didn't matter how it occurred... she wanted more grandchildren
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:28 AM
14

You are correct. My mother wanted more grandchildren... and decided to withhold the information to get them. Even though it meant I would be enslaved to my ex-wife. They have no loyalty.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 02:28 AM
74

Yes indeed. My ex-wife admitted to my mother that she purposely stopped taking her birth control (without informing me) in order to get pregnant. My mother didn't inform me of this until two years later, when my ex and I were separated and I was filing for divorce.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 10:19 PM
63

I don't care if she is on her period or not... she can blow me either way.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 10:16 PM
2

There is a lot of good advice already posted here. One thing I did not see, but would like to add to the list: cut negative people out of your life. While you are on your way to success you will notice that there are two types of people in your life. Those who are happy about your success and want you to do well, and those (usually the majority) who are jealous and negative about your success because they don't have any of their own. Cut the latter out of your life as soon as possible. Some of t…
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 09:32 PM
5

Never going to happen. EVER.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 09:16 PM
22

Every time I see a woman with some blue, pink, green, purple, whatever-dyed hair I always mentally thank them for advertising their craziness so openly.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 09:10 PM
5

Indeed. Oh, we will make a comeback... for our own health, wealth, and interests.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 09:09 PM
2

Holy shit, she actually admitted it? Why? If you are willing to share I would like to hear the story.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 08:36 PM
3

I was mid 20s when I got my vasectomy. The (female) doctor was very hesitant to perform the surgery. She asked my about 20 times if I was sure, including when I was on the table just before she made the incision. It was ridiculous, having almost no say if I could receive an elective surgery. I already had one child at the time, which is probably the only reason the doctor was finally willing to perform the vasectomy. If you aren't having any luck, you may try going to a different doctor and lyin…
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 08:34 PM
5

Indeed. And MGTOW forums such as this one is a signal to other men that this trail is not as dangerous nor undesirable as we were led to believe.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 05:23 PM
12

MGTOW is about taking your resources and leaving due to being offered a bad deal. To build upon this: women will never be offered a bad deal. As long as they are granted some form of access and control to a man's resources, time, and attention it will always be a better deal than the alternative: having to be self-reliant, responsible, accountable, and independent. Women GTOW is always the more challenging route to take; therefore, they will never choose it. Why trudge up a mountain when you can…
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 03:33 PM
1

Welcome to MGTOW, brother. From your responses below it sounds like you have your priorities on track, which will make the transition to GYOW much smoother. Thumbs up for focusing on minimalism, saving, exercise, and reading. And feel free to ask questions or vent here. Cheers!
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 11:19 PM
7

I was a lot like you in the not-so-distant past. I would be angry at factors that were out of my control, such as the differences between "what should be" and reality. It took some time and effort, but it is worthwhile to be able to accept this world as it is and move on with our own existence. Would I like things to change and for life to be fair? Of course. But it is not going to happen... and daydreaming interferes with my own happiness and progress. If nothing else, channel the rage and ange…
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 12:28 AM
1

Thanks for the info bud, much appreciated!
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 12:23 AM
7

So your plan is to go out, alone, shot by invaders who will steal your shit. How is that better than grouping up with like-minded others and trying to take a stand, to stop things from going that far? Worst case scenario you still get to go out in a blaze of glory. But you'll have comrades by your side.and purpose in your heart. Not alone, starving, in your underpants, covered in cheetoe dust. Your crazy is leaking. Have a nice life. P.S. Let the fucker burn.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 06:32 PM
14

Came here to post this, glad it is top comment. Women. Never. Take. Responsibility.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 06:21 PM
7

Set my standards low; therefore, will never be disappointed. Plus, all that ammo I have wouldn't go to waste... (find the positives in any situation).
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 06:09 PM
5

Can anyone recommend a specific brand/type for a dash cam?
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 06:02 PM
4

Welcome to MGTOW, if you so choose to GYOW.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 05:36 PM
7

I would have to argue that Lt. Dan does as well, at least at first. He finds Forrest after he (Forrest) was awarded the MoH and latches onto him... for assistance, company, someone to bark orders at, whatever. When he returns later in the film to "keep his promise" it can be argued either way: perhaps his intent is to keep his word and help Forrest out, or maybe he just needs companionship with someone again and Forrest has a boat/business... so why not? However, whatever the reason he does seem…
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 05:31 PM
2

My response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARDhJ2dpuYU
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 05:22 PM
12

No. We are going to enjoy our lives and watch it all burn down.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 05:20 PM
1

IANAL. Every country (and state) has different laws, but in many of them women are able to have their legal fees paid by their spouse during divorce. That would be a good question for your attorney.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 10:24 AM
2

Financially: We fought over assets for a long time. In the end, I received a lot of the debt and liability. I worked my ass off to pay down all the debt as fast as possible so that it wasn't hanging over my head. I started fresh, and rebuilt my savings and assets. I have always lived frugal and continue to do so now, but I also enjoy my life by taking a portion of my savings and spending it on something I really want. So I minimize loans, car payments, eating out, fancy clothes/car/etc. so that …
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 01:00 AM
10

Welcome to freedom
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 11:33 AM
1

If you're not going to have kids there's no reason to get married.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 01:19 AM
2

I can't imagine the mixed feelings that you would have felt in that situation... and even now when looking back. And as you say, it is a shame and we wish it were different... but the truth of the matter is that AWALT. I think many people misunderstand the fact that we don't hate women, we just realize their nature and the damage they are capable of inflicting on us. Thanks again for sharing brother.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 02:59 AM
1

Funny how the financial recovery works after divorce... if you got out in time and don't have alimony/CS that is.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 02:56 AM
3

I am glad my story is helpful for some of you guys. Hell yes, keep doing what you are doing and don't fall into the honey trap. I believe a lot of people, especially married men, pressure other guys to settle down because 1) it is expected of them, and part of the "keeping up appearances" and 2) misery loves company. Keep on track bud and live life the way that YOU choose to.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 02:56 AM
2

That is awesome that you saw the trap and avoided it. It is also good that the younger generation of males have more access to the information than we did, and at least have a better chance of learning the truth without going through the grinder Cheers.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 02:08 AM
3

Thanks for sharing your story. Fortunately, you were able to take some precautions and do some damage control to prevent a complete financial disaster. A lot of times that results in the wife filing for divorce because they can cash out with more money and move on.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 01:41 AM
2

Of course. Because no woman in history has ever pulled the bait-and-switch after the wedding. Hell, 99% of the information posted on this forum is how women manipulate and deceive others (especially men) throughout their entire lives. We have the acronym "AWALT" for a reason. but you're seriously bullshitting yourself if you think that marriage in general lower men's quality of life. MGTOW exists because the vast majority, and I mean > 95%, of married men are worse off than they would be single.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 01:39 AM
10

Fuck man, where to begin. I agree with others who say lift, find some hobbies, focus on yourself, take a step back and look at everything from the outside. But it runs deeper than that... because all those factors on on the surface and don't mean much if you are doing them for the wrong reason. Stop for a moment and imagine that you are alone in the world. I mean completely alone; there is not another living organism on the entire planet. No person (or even an animal) to befriend or seek validat…
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 10:38 PM
5

No. I think it is an act of selfishness and abuse to create a child in this world.
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 10:20 PM
1

Glad to hear it brother. Time to enjoy your life.
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 10:01 PM
2

Thank you. Congrats on gaining your freedom. Keep your head up; it may be a long road, but you will crawl out of the hole eventually. Do you have child support and alimony to pay, or just debt from marriage/divorce? No more LTRs for me. And I got snipped almost immediately after separating from my ex.
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 08:44 PM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzLW4p5yyxQ Also, I would bet that you are either a cuck or a chick. I have never heard a man ask the question "Who hurt you?" That is shaming tactics, deflection, and pure manipulation.
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 07:14 PM
10

Hell brother, those are all of the exact points that I make when a friend asks me why I'm not married or in an LTR. I don't discuss MGTOW with friends, but I do make it clear that I am not seeking a relationship at this point in time. For my closest friends (brothers), I provide all of the points you made. Especially the "die alone" aspect. I have a small group of friends who are my family now. They are better than a spouse on any day.
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 07:05 PM
2

Serious question, how long have you known this woman?
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 07:02 PM
1

I have found only one in my entire life. There are a few out there (even in this younger generation) who are not soulless parasites who completely lack empathy. But as others have already posted, finding the unicorn is not the challenge. The fact that they can take everything away from you in the blink of an eye over some temporary "feelings" is the danger. And gentlemen, no matter how wonderful your unicorn is, she still has feelings. And it only takes a moment of weakness or selfishness for he…
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 07:01 PM
8

I just posted this... will copy and paste link. Marriage is automatic financial ruin for men these days: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/65qpya/financial_reason_to_remain_single_and_gyow/
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 06:57 PM
3

Multiple events and experiences over a time period of years. Getting married and divorced young was the first big step. After separating from my now-ex, I just slept around with no strings attached. But I was able to observe women repeatedly play their game of being FWB while slowly attempting to set the hooks into me. When it didn't work, a pure emotional response was the result. It didn't matter what we had discussed or how many times, they would always "feel" like we were more than FWB or fuc…
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 01:44 PM
3

Except we are not. Feminists make demands (based on bullshit lies and cherry-picked statistics), wanting everybody to change to their terms. We are simply walking away. Have a nice life!!
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 01:49 PM
6

It is obvious, except for the part that everybody in your goddamn life is telling you the opposite. When you are bombarded from every angle (parents, teachers, peers, media, movies, TV, music...) it is hard to clear your head long enough to open your eyes. Good job on helping the younger generations; saving lives.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 01:45 PM
4

Exactly, no idea. They will continue to bury their head in the sand while kicking, screaming, and whining... until the inevitable consequences hit them square in the face. And at that point they will blame all of men and society. Cheers to us MGTOWs!!!
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 01:36 PM
1

Anytime brother
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 01:35 PM
3

Did you just describe feminists???
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 01:34 PM
3

Indeed. The terms sexual assault and rape completely lose their strength when you include "sex after drinking alcohol" and "unwanted advances." And of course when you point out this FACT, you always receive insults or deflection instead of acknowledgement.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 01:34 PM
9

Exactly this. I grew up having to live on very little. I learned early on to work for myself, save, budget, and prioritize what I wanted vs. what I needed. I was comfortable in a T-shirt and jeans and driving a 15-year-old car with a few dents and scratches that was reliable. Now that I am bringing home $100,000+ a year, I still keep up that appearance in general public. I wear comfortable clothes, drive an old reliable car, and have a $25 watch. No jewelry, no $300 sunglasses, no new BMW, Merc,…
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 12:14 PM
3

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Yep, you're right... we are all neckbeards with absolutely no value. So my question is.... why are you so upset about it, and why are you wasting your time here?
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 12:02 PM
7

The difference is that straight dudes won't lose interest or stop talking to you just because you work a mediocre job. They don't have a hidden motive in their question.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:57 AM
2

May I inquire why you are still in contact with her? If you two are now divorced and have no children together, why don't you ghost her and put that negativity out of your life? Don't try to save her... she doesn't want to be saved.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:44 AM
8

Please do. Maybe it will help betas open their eyes that there is more to life than serving an insufferable cunt for the occasional opportunity to get their dick wet.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:24 AM
25

It is unavoidable. What is equally astonishing is how her opinion on something can completely change depending on the input of her social circle, her mood, or a completely unrelated factor. All emotion and no logic.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:17 AM
3

I agree. MSM just supports the illusion for those who have already chosen to remain ignorant. It is a feel-good measure. Luckily, young males these days have access to forums such as this one and can search out information on their own. And of course everyday life is full of examples of the behavior and attitudes of women.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:10 AM
5

Probably the same number of woman who claim that they have had a "supernatural" experience: "I have seen ghosts" "I have had visions/dreams that come true" "I know when something is wrong with a loved one" Shut up. You aren't a special snowflake.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 03:01 AM
2

Good advice. I closed all of my social media. Still sometimes catch myself on /r/news to look for what has been occurring lately. It is a horrible habit that I need to stop feeding.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 02:53 AM
145

AWALT. It is amazing how women can completely dissect a man and assign a value (positive or negative) to every single characteristic, habit, possession, etc. that he has to determine his overall worth. Meanwhile, they cannot critically analyze themselves for a single second.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 02:08 AM
18

The "recycle" symbol on his suicide note is perfect. As long as men continue to marry and have children the same results will occur. Divorce, alimony, child support, and slavery.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 02:02 AM
1

After spreading some herpes and HPV around
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 11:20 PM
9

AND MY AXE!!!!
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 11:20 PM
5

Fucking A. I am proud of all men who can face uncertainty while full of self-doubt, who can look within and gather enough confidence and courage to break the chains and step into the unknown... alone. For you will never know that level of fear and self-doubt again because, deep inside, you know that you have the strength to overcome any obstacle that rises before you. For you young MGTOW out there... stay on track and remember why you went MGTOW in the first place. When females start throwing at…
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 11:18 PM
1

Never give in to manipulation, and remain true to yourself. Women always have a way of getting what they want. I guarantee you that once she realizes that you will never give in to marriage, she will pull a 180 instantly. Be ready for that storm.
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 02:19 PM
3

This is 100% accurate. I believe every man has a limit to the amount of pain, misery, and betrayal he must experience or witness before he is able to awaken from the perpetuated blue-pill lie. Some of us find the red-pill after a relationship or two, others find it after multiple marriages. It is a spectrum of tolerance before we desire to know and accept the truth. However, to some men the lie is so attractive and powerful that they are completely ruined (imprisoned, bankrupt, or dead) before t…
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 10:53 AM
1

It is the ideal manner to GYOW. Be careful that you never falter when you stumble across a "unicorn."
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 10:29 AM
1

Congrats man, it seems that you have planned accordingly and set yourself up for a good retirement. I also live below my means in my daily life and choose activities or adventures that give me the most bang for my buck. Cheers to you brother, and to enjoying life while going our own ways!
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 10:26 AM
1

I am renting and plan to do so for a long time. One priority I have is to be able to relocate relatively quickly, and owning a house makes that much more difficult. All I have to do is finish a lease or end it early and pay the penalty and I am on my way.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 10:19 AM
2

Welcome. I hope all other MGTOW have the same type of fortune and success.
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 04:52 PM
4

Thanks man.
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 04:51 PM
2

Everyone has a different situation and priority. I want to have the opportunity to relocate as I please, so renting and living a somewhat minimalist lifestyle works for me. If I was going to stay in one location for long term, I would certainly consider buying. There are pros and cons to both, and each individual has to make a decision depending on their circumstances. Buying a small home for a good price can certainly save you money. You will always have taxes, insurance, and maintenance costs.…
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 04:50 PM
3

Yes, multiple times. Everything from spouse, girlfriend, FWB, and acquaintances whom I did not sleep with. They were all horrible, in one way or another. Lazy, dirty, inconsiderate... take your pick. Some stole from me and directly lied about it. One (FWB) moved out while I was at work; no warning, no rent payment, nothing. Have lived with male friends as well, and it is a world of difference (usually, betas with gfs are fucking awful). Even if you don't agree on something, they are usually cons…
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 01:23 PM
3

Met a girl, pump-and-dumped over a 3 week period. Sex was pretty wild, but she had tons of baggage so I decided to cut ties early. Every time she wanted to get together I used being busy with work as an excuse. She slowly stopped texting and didn't hear from her again. Great. Fast-forward about two years later: I get a random text from her. Usual bullshit, "how's it going" and "what have you been up to" kind of thing. She flirted for a bit, trying to see if I would be up for fucking again. I gav…
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 01:34 PM
13

Black, loud, nice sleek body with curves, can go all day and night, low maintenance, and enough power with the 1200cc engine.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 01:26 AM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL_-v267vpE
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 04:06 AM
1

Agreed. I have pump and dumped women in their late 20s to mid 30s who still had a great body and looks. However, there was no way I would ever consider them for an LTR or marriage (meaning if I wasn't already MGTOW). Too much emotional/mental baggage, too much debt, some of them were single moms, bad dating habits/history they couldn't conceal, etc. All of them were on the dating "fast-track" where they wanted to meet, fuck, build a relationship, and be engaged within 12 months. You could easily…
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 05:43 PM
2

Congratulations brother, it's always good to hear another MGTOW's success story. Keep it up: remain focused on yourself and the path that you choose to travel.
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 04:10 AM
7

Welcome to MGTOW. Remember this rage in the future when you think you've found a unicorn. AWALT
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 04:02 AM
2

Please. Most girls do not practice safe sex
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 01:16 AM
1

Plenty of benefits for lifting. Do it correctly: have someone who knows what they are doing show you the ropes. Get a steady routine and work with it. Be sure to hit cardio regularly and eat a healthy diet. Find a gym where there are guys in there 50s and 60s hitting the weights. I don't mean 5lb dumbells... I mean putting up 185 - 225 on the bench and knocking out pull-ups with good form. Listen to these men. If they are in good shape its because they have done it correctly for a LONG TIME. I h…
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 01:15 AM
1

Same. Seeing the true nature of women and knowing what their intentions are has ruined sex for me. It gets to the point where you can actually see the hamster spinning in their head, and you can sense the shit tests coming... like a storm approaching. I can't stand being around them at all.
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 01:06 AM
1

Had mine done in my mid 20s. Its been ten years and no long term negative effects. Procedure was fast, nearly painless, and without complications. A little sore for about a week, but after that was back to 100%. At the time I was a laborer and I was back at work the next day. Pain was so little that I completely forgot about it and gave myself a painful jolt when I jumped down from the back of a pickup truck. One of the best decisions I ever made was to get snipped. The number of "pregnancy scar…
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 01:03 AM
3

Do you really expect them to apply logic to the scenario?
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 12:42 AM
2

100%. Let them throw their best shaming tactics at us as we laugh it off and walk away. I don't care one bit what women want or expect from me, or if they approve or hate my behavior. They can scream, cry, beg, plead, insult, etc in the attempt to influence my behavior... I'm still walking away.
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 02:03 PM
1

Go your own way. Don't ask other people which way is MGTOW Don't know and I don't care. I put very little value on politics and religion, since both have permitted, if not caused, our present-day situation. Probably the vast majority. Life is much easier if you can learn from other peoples' mistakes; however, sometimes lessons learned in such a manner are quickly forgotten. When you have the battle scars from bad break-ups and/or divorce(s) you tend to remember better. To each his own. I still c…
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 01:19 PM
1

It sounds like you hate the city, being around tons of people, and doing the same monotonous activities every day. IMO, before you pick up and move to start over again, you may want to take a little intermission (if you can afford to financially). Take some time to travel around the country in your car... clearing your mind and exploring different states and regions. Or, take an extended hiking trip if you like the mountains and outdoors. Can always do a month or two on the AT or PCT. Sometimes …
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 01:02 PM
6

Good, get back on your feet and live life on your terms. Ignore the pressures from women, family, and society to behave or think a certain way. However, I have to question your real intent regarding keeping your ex on FB. Is it really a reminder to never be blue pill again, or because you want to check up on her and see what she is doing? You are spending energy focusing on her, thinking about how good revenge will be when she hits the wall. Bad move, focus your time and energy on you and you al…
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 12:55 PM
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Congratulations. IMO, the ability to regard sex as a non-priority is a combination of getting older and consciously realizing that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. The more time that you spend around women, the more you realize that their emotions and behavior depreciate their sexual value to almost zero. I'm glad to hear that you regained your passions in life, don't ever lose them again. Be careful with dating; the base instincts in men to protect, provide, and seek companionship are strong.…
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 12:41 PM
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Thank you. Hopefully it is useful to someone.
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 12:19 PM
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Thank you!
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 12:17 PM
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It is amazing. Before I was married, I never had any debt and I paid my credit card off IN FULL every month. It didn't take long for that to change with marriage. Tons of credit card debt, money squandered for shit, and always on the verge of missing a mortgage payment. After I divorced and the assets were divided, I dug myself out of debt. Since then, I have paid off a house and never paid a dime in interest for credit cards. Trying to be financially responsible with a wife is synonymous with t…
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 12:17 PM
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Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 12:12 PM
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Absolutely. Sure, I lost the opportunity to be in my child's life, had to absorb a huge amount of debt, and was mentally and emotionally battered through the legal process of divorce... but I have it easy compared to some guys. I only had one child with my ex-wife; if I spent any longer with her it could have been more. I didn't lose my house, car, 401k, retirement, savings account... I was lucky as hell compared to what could have happened. I hope younger men realize they might not be as lucky …
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 11:47 PM
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An incredible amount I could say about this, but I'll try to keep it brief and organized. Not being in an LTR or marriage is by far the most liberating experience in the world. No matter what type of woman I dated, it always resulted in the same thing: emotional manipulation, her "feelings" taking a priority over fact and logic, and her demanding more and more of my energy, time, and eventually money without offering up very much in return. Even plates I spun would continuously test the waters t…
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 10:43 PM
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Thank you
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 10:02 PM
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Thank you brother
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 10:01 PM
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It took a lot of hard work, determination, and quite a bit of luck to get back on my feet again. And all of the pain and misery could have possibly been avoided if I had a community like this to learn from. Years of my life, health, stability, and finances were flushed down the drain by the simple decision to marry. Hopefully I can share my story and prevent at least one other misguided man from making a similar mistake.
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 10:01 PM
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It absolutely is a great feeling. The knowledge that I don't have students loans, a mortgage, a car loan, or any credit card debt chained to my leg is more valuable to me than most things in life. It is another manner of escaping the plantation.
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 09:58 PM
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Thank you. And already subscribed
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 02:40 PM
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