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| 0 | What is something about people of your sex in general, that people of the opposite sex just dont seem to realize or get?Most women know these things We’re still not gonna have sex with you Lol what a bitter person to comment this in a thread with no relation to that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:22 PM |
| -1 | What is something about people of your sex in general, that people of the opposite sex just dont seem to realize or get?Great reponse Just a caveat Male orgasm is basically guaranteed Male cum is guaranteed, a male orgasm is something else | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:20 PM |
| 1 | What is something about people of your sex in general, that people of the opposite sex just dont seem to realize or get?didn't wait in the whole checkout line for several hours to ask one question He didnt just ask the question, he just got full service without having to stand in line If youre gonna advance some crazy viewpoint at least ask for clrifications and get your facts straight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Apparently, women were seen as the hornier sex for much of HistoryMy bad, I was talking about Victorian era protestantism, should have made that clear | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Apparently, women were seen as the hornier sex for much of HistoryThats just not true. Protestantism valued chastity and considered women chaste and pure, men were the corrupting forces | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:39 AM |
| 3 | Women when a women expresses a preference: she can have whatever standards she wants. Women when men express a preference: he's misogynistic, insecure ect...What I said: See, Im not advocating for that, thats just to show its possible What you said: Seriously? You're advocating that we return to a colonial London world Seriously? I wont even bother to respond to the rest man sorry please read what I wrotd | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Im not saying things cant change. Let them change. Lets see how that goes. Im just saying that, if we look to what makes for stable civilizations in the past, that is a strong focus on religion and monogamy, virginity and chastity. Maybe because monogamy ties men to the community by way of a family, and theres no contingent of frustrated lonely males prone to violence like in polygamous cultures. It also reduces male competition and increases paternal certainty and thus paternal investment. Also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .The fact is, we are stuck with judeo christian values. And have any of the matriarchal or communal raising societies reached industrialization? No. They never reached even civilization. Every civilization, from Egypt to Chinese to us, is the result of a religion and strong mores of monogamy and sexual purity/virginity/chastity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:24 AM |
| 2 | Women when a women expresses a preference: she can have whatever standards she wants. Women when men express a preference: he's misogynistic, insecure ect...to have a society where every man is sexually experienced, and every women isn't. Yet still its very possible to have a society where most women are experienced and a lot of men are not! Just look around. The point is not one to one correspondence, I agree with you on that. But thats not my argument Also, double standards promote an adversarial, distrustful relationship between men and women. You can't keep walking into a donut shop, and taking a little nibble out of every donut, putting it back… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:22 AM |
| 3 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Its really much more simple than that. It has to do with anti cuckolding instincts and male paternal investment. Males in general evolved a feeling of being grossed out by promiscuity (to secure the child is theirs, remember a man never knows for sure, and even if now we have tests for that, the brain may know but the body still doesnt), and its not a metaphor, its really being grossed out - analogous to what zoomer women are calling the "ick" when a guy does something that comes off as not masc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:51 PM |
| 3 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Do you really want to do a CMV or just want to vent? If its the latter I volunteer this comment. You may spew all your vitirol here if you wish so | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:31 PM |
| 17 | Women when a women expresses a preference: she can have whatever standards she wants. Women when men express a preference: he's misogynistic, insecure ect...My issue isn't when men have preferences. My issue is when men have preferences that they don't meet. Do you want a girl with a body count under two? Okay, but how many have you got? A woman wants a bearded man? She better grow a beard A woman wants a man taller than herself? She better be taller than herself A woman wants a masculine man? She better be masculine! See? Thats not how it works. Its like this: Men care for sexual purity but women dont? So to men its a preference but because women d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:28 PM |
| 0 | Apparently, women were seen as the hornier sex for much of HistoryAll your points are good except this one Also, are we really supposed to believe that women were trying to sleep around in an age when birth control was not available? First, there has always been birth control in some way or another, with different efficacy. The Romans led an abortive herb to extinction in ancient times because they used it too much, and an invasive abortive herb from Europe spread across the USA following the brothels of the wild west. Also anal A better question would be, kno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Apparently, women were seen as the hornier sex for much of HistoryEveryone knows they didnt write back then. They were busy being horny On a more serious note, thats a tall order. Its even hard to find a single ancient or medieval text written by a woman. A text written by a woman about female libido? Thats jackpot, if you find one dont forget to show me I dont know what that proves or disproves tho if we are talking about observable behavior | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Apparently, women were seen as the hornier sex for much of HistoryBold assumption of yours against all the sources but ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Apparently, women were seen as the hornier sex for much of History(according to you) I never said women were hornier in the past. The sources I cited tho make a compelling point toward it maybe it’s not “modern women” who are the problem but “modern men” who caused the shift hmmm. How so? Who said anything of a problem? And why if theres a problem, that I cant even see what it would be, its automatically mens fault? I dont follow it and you left no reasoning to justify any of that. Wjat even is "the shift" you talk about? Is it from horny women to non horny on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Apparently, women were seen as the hornier sex for much of HistoryIs the projectoon thinking women are horny as hell or thinking they are pure ans virginal with no sexual desire? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Apparently, women were seen as the hornier sex for much of Historythose are jokes You didnt read everything. Some of the material are jokes, but some like Ellis research are not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:10 PM |
| 7 | What are the reasons groups for males and boys always seem to end up eventually infiltrated by women and girls?Men being complete wimps when it comes to saying no to women roll over and give in Thats probably becaue in todays climate you cant say no to women without accusations of being sexist and being cancelled, the fear is justified. Because men are viewed as the default opressors and women as the victims, men are in a position of a debt they will never be able to quite pay, because the terms are not clear and feminism is always moving goalposts. Thats only the social projection of the intimate dynami… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 12:59 PM |
| 2 | Should a man, in dating, treat women just like he treats men?Who said anything about emotional manipulation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Should a man, in dating, treat women just like he treats men?Who said anything about negging? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Should a man, in dating, treat women just like he treats men?I mean, as the basis I agree. But, in dating, is that sufficient? Redpill would argue its not, and that women work a whole different way than men do. The people that I saw saying the argument in my OP would disagree and say that men and women are pretty much the same, and the redpill is wrong when it views them as so different. Thats whats the question is about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 01:51 AM |
| 3 | Should a man, in dating, treat women just like he treats men?Well, should he treat both in the same way then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 01:28 AM |
| 0 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menOh yeah, they will say "Im not open*" but they will never say what is the asterisk Im not open, but well those times it happened teehee Im not open, starting NOW. The past is in the past, yeah I had a hoe phase, thats it people change Im not open, but... OMG Chad just slid into my DMs asking if I want to watch Netflix at his house, bye girls I gotta go | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 03:33 AM |
| 3 | Study: despite the myth of woman being the “more empathetic gender”, evidence shows much of this is actually performativeYeah I agree If this was done as an experiment with people watching x alone, you could say something about social presentation, but that doesnt seem to be thr case | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:01 PM |
| 1 | How common is this? "I have an amazing career, make almost 6 figures, have lots of friends and family, fit and physically active, many hobbies and talented, but I can't get a single date"You forgot the most important thing: taking a shower! Smh you guys know nothing about dating Jokes aside yeah Ive seen people like that. Dating takes specific social abilities not covered in friendship, and of course if thr guy is just hot but has none of those things you listed he will date just fine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 02:58 PM |
| 3 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsBanging 4 or 6 people tell us nothing if they were all marriages or all hookups, so theres plenty in between, my point was about finding a girl that has never done casual sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 02:40 PM |
| 2 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?I would suggest you search for "fuckzone purplepilldebate" on google and see what people thought about that here in the past I agree with you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:23 PM |
| 8 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsThats a good point. But still casual sex happens a lot. Also, theres difference between being a serial monogamist in years long relationships, or casual monogamist in weeks or months long "relationships" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?It was standard woke news piece about how men are bad to women leaving them in the fuckzone by 2017 and 2018. This sub discussed fuckzone from 2018 to 2020 at least But the redpill concept of Chad having a soft harem of women that wanted to commit to him predates that and was contrasted with the male friendzone, even if the name fuckzone was not used back then Heres a reddit post from 9 years ago, on 2xchromossomes https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/19zvob/welcome_to_the_fuckzone_… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:11 PM |
| 1 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsBro, that is what the study is about, but if you had read the study introduction you wouls find lots of other studies that corroborate that, bro Also, if you paid attention, you would see theres the study number 2 which I linked there that also corroborates this point, bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:07 PM |
| 2 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Damn, the fuckzone all over again Is this sub remembering or independently reinventing manosphere content from 2012? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:02 PM |
| 10 | A few men are basically controlling all social interactions and sex between genders, rather than womenFirst, swingers are a minority Second, this guys is not saying that men arent thirstier than women, thats clear Hes combining the consequenecs of male thirst with the 80/20 rule to arrive at the conclusion that because men are attracted to most women, and women dont care for most men, but most women care for a few men only, these few men hold all the power | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:57 PM |
| 7 | Fat looks worse on women than on men.Theres an entire dating and fetish preference for every kind of fat women. BBW, chubby, thick, curvy. On the other hand, the only people that like fat men are gays with the Teddy Bear prefernece. So in the hetero dating market, fat is worse for men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:52 PM |
| 3 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsYou dont have to give them incemtives So... do you agree that the incentives to have kids are only an illogical, biological desire that any rational consideration for the dating situation would disavow? (And before you say the same about male prefernece for low n count, remember that it goes beyond that, theres those studies famous around here linking high femle n count, but not male, with cheating amd divorce) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:43 PM |
| 0 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsI sourced out my premises and you are rebutting with an anecdote with no argument behind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:37 PM |
| 5 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsWell yeah lack of logic can justify it but isnt really defendable in a debate so I guess we cant say much more about this point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:19 PM |
| 4 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsOk I agree that a monogamous environment is the most stable for kids, but that just takes us back one step: givjng the dating situation I outlined in my OP, what incentives men have for wanting to have kids with a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:18 PM |
| 5 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsWhat about finding a woman to "settle down" and have kid(s) with What incentive do hey have for that if their preference for virginity or at least chastity is not being fulfilled? Also, isn't having a relationship easier/more efficient than having to go out every night looking for a new girl? Yes, its less effort. But as I said their instinctual preferences likely wouldnt be met Plus the sex is usually better with someone you have sex with regularly. Thats true, but the point still stands. You a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:14 PM |
| 1 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsWell, but as I said, men prefer virgins and chaste women, and are unlikely to find such a woman for a long term relationship. So why not just try to have casual sex even if that takes months or years? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:09 PM |
| 2 | Women, considering these things, how would you answer?Ok, thanks for the answers. I will decide on what to do with this post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Women, considering these things, how would you answer?Could I post it in this format if I sourced and backed every claim? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Women, considering these things, how would you answer?I tried to make it the less leading I could. I believe the core idea of all of them are self evident, and the details may be arguable, but even then I used non-leading language like when talking about the 80/20 rule I could try to reword it into a more neutral version, stripped of the details and more clear cut about the points Or if it would be better I could post it as a CMV. But I dont think the CMV version would be desireable. My intention is to know, when women consider mens point of view, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 03:00 PM |
| 1 | With all of the back and forth and speculation here, at the end of the day the overwhelming majority of the dating difficulties men experience and conflicts between the genders are due to one simple fact - men are way hornier than womenYou forgot something important Men and women will never understand each other because men evolved a negative response for female promiscuity which women dont have for male promiscuity So when a guy says "better to just pump and dump if Im not getting my virgin wife" most men can at least sympathize, even if they dont personally agree, but women are shocked at that assertion, as if the two things are unrelated | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 06:58 PM |
| -2 | What are some major changes in the mainstream perception about dating that you think happened in the last 20 years?That doesnt change the fact that, by the 2000s, the mainstream ideas were the one I said in my OP, and the overton windown was much, much more to the bkuepill side | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 09:33 PM |
| 1 | What are some major changes in the mainstream perception about dating that you think happened in the last 20 years?Oh yeah, the big ol Onlyfanoramas of the 50s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 08:44 PM |
| 2 | What are some major changes in the mainstream perception about dating that you think happened in the last 20 years?Oh I dont think thats accurate. Men can have FWBs and respect FWBs... as FWBs, not as someone they would like to seriously date They care for their pleasure and well being just dont want to commit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 08:35 PM |
| 3 | What are some major changes in the mainstream perception about dating that you think happened in the last 20 years?I would be happy to clarify what i said That is, until you retorted with an extreme ad hominem, then I lost any consideration I should have with you in a civil debate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 07:25 PM |
| 12 | What are some major changes in the mainstream perception about dating that you think happened in the last 20 years?I'm a 27F, and I really used to think men's sexual attraction was deeper, and more complex, than it actually is. Not speaking for all men, obviously, but realizing the extent of it for a lot of men is just about novelty, ego, and how big a woman's tits/ass are was somewhat disappointing. I thought more men cared about, and valued, interpersonal connection, exploration, pleasing their partner, experimentation and intimacy, on top of physical attraction... but I was wrong. The thing is, lots of re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 07:03 PM |
| 6 | What are some major changes in the mainstream perception about dating that you think happened in the last 20 years?I agree with your remarks about masculinity, but what exavtly do you mean with "entitled" and "act like we deserve to have sex"? Sex is and is not deserved. It is deserved in terms of attraction, but its not deserved in terms of morality. These things are often conflated. You seem to want to make it a moral issue Does a serial rapist and murderer deserves to have sex? Well, if the world was just, no. Are there serial rapists and murderers having sex? Yes. Does a good and thoughtful and helpful p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 05:29 PM |
| 9 | Unconditional LovePlease bear along with me, that may sound incoherent but theres a method Theres no unconditional love as theres no unconditional living. You live because you get food, avoid hazards etc. Without that you cant live. Everything that exists is bound by conditions. Its like talking about unconditional gravity. Unconditional love would be random, you would love a fly that happened to stop at your table - really, think about it. I know it may sound confusing to think in those terms, but I only do that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Women saying they wear make up, get plastic surgery, and dress sexy for themselves and not for attention or to attract men?To the women that say they wear makeup for themselves when they go to a party or the club, I always ask: "Oh, good, do you also bring a hand mirror then? You know, to look at yourself while you dance?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 03:58 PM |
| 1 | People on ppd need to start speaking on their own behalfpeople of PPD need to start speaking on their own behalf Oh the irony Fixing your title: "I will start speaking on my behalf on PPD, what about you?" Dont speak on my behalf about what I and the other people of PPD should or not do So many ppders sincerely believe that they represent a half of humanity Did they say that, or are you speaking on their behalf? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Granny admits that the biggest mistake of her life.....is getting married! Ladies, what and who needs to change, to get men and women back to committed relationships?Change the laws Here in Brazil we have "socioaffective paternity". Which means, did you date a single mom long enough that the child sees you as the dad? Or, did you ever financially helped them? BAM you are the father now There have been cases of moms getting two alimonies, one from the ex that is the biological father and one from the ex that is the "socio affective" father. Also there was a guy that registered the child as his, made a DNA test and discovered it wasnt his child, but the court … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:06 PM |
| 3 | "Why do women care less about looks than men?"Thtas a good point, but it also goes to show how much confusion there is when the researcher, who is a woman, chose those as the personality traits to test against looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:37 PM |
| 9 | 'Toxic masculinity' is only half of the equationOnce again, I will say it "Internalized mysoginy" doesnt exist. Women choosing assholes and wanting toxic men is not the result of the patriarchy being introjected into them, on the contraire, the patriarchy and toxic masculinity is just female preferences projected onto men and amplified | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Sexual ignorance is better for long-term partnershipsOk, but dont you agree that the statement based on research, most women who have had a greater number of sexual partners are unhappy in their marriage Is factually correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:15 PM |
| 1 | For the regulars that debate here and often lock horns, Why?If you want to talk about how things really are, you can do it either here or 4chan and some niche forums Here is the most balanced and sane place out of these options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Sexual ignorance is better for long-term partnershipsSo... what CAN you say about those papers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:09 PM |
| 6 | Treating your partner differentWell, you have to understaaaaand she was naive, thats why she fucked Chad fast But then she matured, thats why Billy Beta had to wait But when she broke up wth Billy Beta, she was disilusioned (poor girl!) And thats why she fucked Chad fast again, to numb the pain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:06 PM |
| 4 | Treating your partner differentIt's only dishonest if you lie about it. Would you expand that to not only lies, but to omission also? And to deception, as in presenting yourself in a way to give the impression of being something you are not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with? If shes a virgin and I enjoy having her as a partner, the former. If those two conditions are not BOTH met, the latter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The 80/20 rule does not apply to all women and is a result of societal factors, not evolutionary psychology.No shit the 80/20 rule dont apply to all women Its called the EIGHTY DASH TWENTY RULE It applies to 80 percent of women, who are chasing the 20 top percent of men I want to understand more about the actual studies and evidence that backs the evolutionary psychology perspective. I'm not convinced that 80/20 is real when monogamous society functioned just fine for the 3000 years prior to the popularization of online dating You might want to check the legal and social status of women on those socie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:57 PM |
| 3 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...Thats true, but even if people just stopped with OLD it would be an improvement. But the cat is out of the box Also my point is that even if all redpill tenets suddenly became recognized my the mainstream, nothing would change and men would still be expected to just get better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 10:50 PM |
| 9 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...Oh great, its CMV now, so posting again under the autobot Do you remember when the mainstream sentiment was that women dont care about looks, men care about looks because they are shallow, but women care about personality? This was the standard thinking And then, as the redpill went more mainstream and bluepill became its opposition, it became looks count too, but the good news is everyone can become better looking, you just have to be respectful and take a shower Then yeah women care about look… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 10:35 PM |
| 1 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...Did I say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:53 PM |
| 1 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...Do you remember when the mainstream sentiment was that women dont care about looks, men care about looks because they are shallow, but women care about personality? This was the standard thinking And then, as the redpill went more mainstream and bluepill became its opposition, it became looks count too, but the good news is everyone can become better looking, you just have to be respectful and take a shower Then yeah women care about looks when it comes to casual sex, there are too many risks in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 08:57 PM |
| 1 | The redpill is about insight in order to act, and the bluepill about nuance in order to judgeYeah, analogies always break down somewhere, my point was just that you considered BP and RP as two ways of playing the same role (doctor), while my argument is that they play opposite but complementary roles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 08:46 PM |
| 1 | The redpill is about insight in order to act, and the bluepill about nuance in order to judgeI believe you agree with me more than you realize You just used a passive, judgment emitting example (doctor diagnosing) A more accurate representation of the redpill, using your analogy, would be redpill people are the viruses. The virus doesnt need nuance because it doesnt judge, unlike the doctor, it acts, it needs to infect the most amount of people (in redpills case, fuck the most women). Of course this analogy paints the redpill in a very bad light, but that was your choice of analogy. You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 08:20 PM |
| 1 | The redpill is about insight in order to act, and the bluepill about nuance in order to judgeThe question Why do you think mine is overcomplicated? I made two comments ago Also what would be a simpler explanation than my OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | The redpill is about insight in order to act, and the bluepill about nuance in order to judgeI didnt set out to prove anything, only to express my impression. Also you didnt answer my question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | The redpill is about insight in order to act, and the bluepill about nuance in order to judgeWhy do you think mine is overcomplicated? To me yours seems overcomplicated because you added clauses and exceptions without a clear thread linking them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 07:15 PM |
| 4 | The redpill is about insight in order to act, and the bluepill about nuance in order to judgeI believe that while BP is not an organized movement, it has its tenets, we just dont say them out loud I believe BP is both "mainstream zeitgeist stuff" which blends traditionalism, religious values and chivalry with post feminist mores of sexuality and courtship (so you get weird stuff like you can have sex in the first date but holding hands is too much, or casual sex is ok but monogamy is sacred) and a reaction to the redpill. Those are two different things, but we call them both BP because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 07:10 PM |
| 2 | The redpill is about insight in order to act, and the bluepill about nuance in order to judgeIn all due respect, you said BP and RP arent as compelx as I made them out to be, but I believe I provided some clear cut explanations for their modus operandi, and I would say your response not only make them more complex than mine, but actually agree with most of my points if not all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Food for thought: is the redpill is about insight in order to act, and the bluepill about nuance in order to judge?I believe its both "mainstream zeitgeist stuff" which blends traditionalism, religious values and chivalry with post feminist mores of sexuality and courtship (so you get weird stuff like you can have sex in the first date but holding hands is too much, or casual sex is ok but monogamy is sacred) and an reaction to the redpill It is an ideology, but its so mainstream and ubiqutous its like water, we the fish dont see it. People have rules to follow in BP dating and courtship, they are just not a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 05:32 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?most 25 yo girls are at Most is not average, most is the mode (the most frequent number in a sample), and halfway through is the median. Average is just "take everything they have and share equally between yhem" which can be pretty misleading That being said the answers are either anecdotes or self reported research and each can be misleading in its own ways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 03:10 PM |
| 3 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Would you say the same thing if it was an average owmne wanting to bang hot men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Would you say the same for an average women wanting to fuck hot men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:23 PM |
| 0 | Men say they want virginsIf thats not true, men have all the reasons to want a virgin wife If thats true, redpill is right about AWALT | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:12 PM |
| 3 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Some woman absolutely do want casual ses; however for many casual sex is bad and they don't do it So if a man wants a gf that has never done casual sex, that will be easy to find, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityOk so I have no quarrels with you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Oh, Ive gotten my fair share, Im commited now But I appreciate and reciprocate your good intentions, good luck on your quest for pussy, or cock, or whatever you want too! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 05:27 PM |
| 5 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI think men should strive to be better then that Shouldnt women be better too? Being interesting to women does not mean being a jerk and disrespectful to them. They dont seem to care if a man is a jerk when they fuck him. Shouldnt women be better? Why is the onus of being better always on men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 05:24 PM |
| 6 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?No woman ever wanted to have causal sex just for the casual sex? If casual sex is so bad for women, why are they doing it then? Why arent they waiting for relationships to have sex? They arent being raped or coerced into casual sex You seem to be talking about the fuckzone. Also, friendzone and fuckzone, most of the time, are things you enter by your own volition and mistakes, sometimes there is deception but most of the times there is huge self deception | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Read TRPs or asktrps sidebar if you have further doubts Im glad I could help | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:52 PM |
| 9 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Is having consensual casual sex exploiting and deceiving women? When women have casual sex with men are they exploiting and deceiving them too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Thats a better answer, thanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:32 PM |
| 2 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Why come here in this thread, read the question, post a comment, and not answer the question? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:30 PM |
| 5 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Hmmm... yeah? What do you think the appeal of the redpill even is? Not constant, but semi regular | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Why is it wrong? Cant women have a hoe phase too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:27 PM |
| 4 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Good advice and thoughtful response, thanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:25 PM |
| 3 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Good advice, but to get a gf, not have sex, like my OP was asking for, so I dont really see the point of answering another question that was no asked Also Understand you’ll have to drop 75% of your other activities- assuming you’ll fight to keep the other 25%. Otherwise, it’ll be 95% Seems excessive as fuck people are supposed to have independent activities while in a relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?So... he does that and suddenly is fucking left and right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Dont you think he would just get lots of female friends? Read the guys description again. Do your really think he would just know how to turns things sexual? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:19 PM |
| 15 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Wow thanks, an actual step by step that is closer to be sufficient Appreciate your answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:16 PM |
| 7 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?He says "Hmmm ok, I expanded my social circles and hobbies. I have lots of female friends now, I am doing baking and gardening and sewing classes, but still, they are just friends, Im not having sex... also... how the hell am I supposed to flirt? You talk like its obvious" Your turn | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:15 PM |
| 9 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?he's a lost cause Oh boy why are men turning to the redpilk? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?I just said in the OP he has no dating skills, only social frienda skills. You are taking for granted that he has dating and flirting skills | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:13 PM |
| -2 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?So, you assume he will start talking to random women on the street and will start slaying left and right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:12 PM |
| 6 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?You tell him "start flirting" He responds "hmm what do you mean... like... how? And what do you mean taking things to a sexual place? How am I to do these "advances"?" Your move | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?he isn't very proactive in finding people, so I'm working on pushing him out of his comfort zone when it comes to socialisation and have taken him clubbing (getting him in a club was a big step so for him to actually talk to someone new there will take time). Does thta fulfil the "sufficient" clause in my OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:00 PM |
| -2 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?On a real note I'd just tell him it's important to get used to talking to women. He should talk and approach women every time he goes out WITHOUT trying to get anything out of it. At a grocery store? Find a woman and talk to her, on campus? Strike up conversation with someone. Do it by asking a question first i.e. where is this building etc. It sounds like his biggest issue is just talking to women so the solution is simple: practice talking to wome Does that fulfil the "sufficient" clause in my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 03:59 PM |
| 4 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityWhy can’t men develop this attractiveness and confidence independent of the toxicity earlier? They can. But the toxic route works short term Should they go the long, moral route, while women are fucking assholes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 03:41 PM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI have been saying this for ever, "internalized mysoginy" doesnt exist. Women choosing assholes and wanting toxic men is not the result of the patriarchy being introjected into them, on the contraire, the patriarchy and toxic masculinity is just female preferences projected onto men and amplified | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 03:27 PM |
| 1 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herThis was the tradcon deal in the 1950s For most of history its more about harems in the ancient world and Islamic countries, and women as property everywhere else. I dont see whats your point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 12:14 PM |
| 0 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herIf he marries her and they do let's say 75/25 or some proportion where guy contributes more he isn't. Or he is, but it's mutual. If he marries her and they do 50/50 but she is the one who a. is a virgin b. is required to pop out a kid. then we have an asymmetry. Because he requires her to perform 100% of her feminine role and 50% of the masculine role on top while he only performs the 50% of the masculine role. Typically the sort of man we are talking about and the sort of men my target audience… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 04:44 AM |
| 0 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herWell, fist of all its not a double standard, its apples having an standard for oranges, and oranges having a different standard for apples That being said, is men wanting women to act in a way they think is dignified in sexual matters the same as women wanting men to be their personal slaves for the rest of their lives? Is being judged by your sexual morals and character the same as being judge for what you can materially provide in financial terms? Who knows? Men do have a preference for virgin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 04:08 AM |
| 3 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herWell at this point just say you hate men but love (their) money No one said anything about men saying they want to take advantage of a womans beauty and virginity. What even would constitute taking advantage of in this situation? The most I can think is fucking a virgin girl and dumping her, but thats not the issue being discussed here is it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 03:17 AM |
| -1 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herOf course, but how else are we supposed to have this conversations unless we boil it down to a transaction? If you, as a woman, want a successful lawyer, be young, hot and fertile. If you want a young, hot and fertile woman, be a successful lawyer. If you consider women the way you are considering, as being valuable for their fertility and looks, well they are really depreceating in value as time goes on. Couple that with no fault divorce with splitting of acquired capital and alimony and everyt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:49 AM |
| 1 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herWhat does treating like shit mean in this sentence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:24 AM |
| 3 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herI dont know A guy that was reputed to be the wisest man ever said the price of a virtuous woman is way above rubies, so maybe you are right But he also had one of the largest harems of the ancient world, so who knows On a more serious note the fact that you are speaking in terms of price still is what I take issue here. I just said this is an oddly transactional way of seeing stuff and you are bargaining with me now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:22 AM |
| 1 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herBut women objectify men too for short term, casual stuff Yet men dont objectify women financially | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:16 AM |
| 5 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herWhy is the provision part necessary? That seems oddly transactional. When redpillers talk about women vieweing men as ATM, bluepillers say it is an exaggeration. And yet here we have someone saying that the price for female virginity should be lifelong provisioning | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Can we just let people do what they want and want what they want, without being hypocrites?Can we just let people do what they want and want what they want, without being hypocrites? I want to be able to judge people and tell them they cant do what they want. If you are against that, that makes you the hypocrite here pal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:59 AM |
| 0 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?Yeha I agree 100% Not only redpill or feminists, any ideology has stupid fambases doing stupid stuff Christianity, Communism etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 04:56 PM |
| 1 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?Why do women have to be either “plates” (an inanimate object) or “inaccessible goddesses?” Why can’t we just be humans? They dont, and they are not. They are women. But if someone is on the "goddess" extreme, he benefits from hearing the "plate" extreme. If he was only brought to the middle he wuld quickly go back to where he lived his whole life, the "goddess" extreme I also don’t think the answer to a man “dreaming of his virgin bride and jerking off while crying until they sleep every night” … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 04:48 PM |
| 1 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?I agree with a caveat Theres the infamous redpill argument about redpill being amoral instead of immoral because they are only doing what women and Chads do naturally. Perhaps bluepill rebbutal as why its really immoral and not amoral is because women and Chad are not really thinking consciously about doing those things, while redpillers are. That may be a personal choice, but I prefer immorality to ammorality because doing otherwise penalizes those who try to understand whats going on and incen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 04:33 PM |
| 1 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?Yes your statement is accurate But it doesnt touch what I said at all Im talking about redpill the ideology, you are talking about redpill the group of people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 01:31 AM |
| 1 | ''Just be who are you'' and ''It's all about your heart'' is terrible advice."Be who you are" should have a twin advice: "and be better!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 01:15 AM |
| 1 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?You know he was not Most people that posted on redpill subs were trash Most of the OG RP blog writers were not, though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 01:00 AM |
| 6 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?Thats true The truth also is that redpill has been hijacked and diluted From the blogosphere, that had its excesses but was somewhat orderly, to the subreddit and forums that were more chaotic but still followed some tenets, to current respill which is just influencer on youtube competing by outrage baiting Originally you should have an anger phase, and you should go there and fuck a lot, both to feel powerful, like Chad and women feel, and then to see how stupid it all really is, how you can ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill is nothing more than learned helplessnessThis is the post that has less truth per word I have ever seen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 10:43 PM |
| 1 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?Thats an interesting view, but I have always viewed that as overcorrection Even with all this exaggeration, the subreddit asktrp would have at least once a week someone saying "Im relapsing into being beta again and she is losing interest, help", which to me shows that these men that idolize women as goddesses need to hear some things from the other extreme to find the middle ground later Edit: but you are right about the inflamatory tone for attention, modern day, youtjbe redpill is all about t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 10:30 PM |
| 2 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?But then you have your AWALT, oldest teenager in the house type stuff. Women can't love (?) AWALT I adressed at my OP. The other two, I afressed in a comment in this thread. But yeah the teenager one is the hardest one to justify | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?Yeah I can agree with all that. Some peoples amguer phase lasts waaay more than it should | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 10:13 PM |
| 2 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?Yeah, but the idea that "is just your turn" is already an overcorrection as I mentioned. It amounts to "Dont fall in love for the first girl that smiles at you", in an exaggerated way. You are arguing against his tone, but I dont think you can deny that men that idolize women should hear something along those lines, but less crass preferably, to find the middle ground later | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 10:06 PM |
| 2 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?Thats a great point, but still could be argued somehow What about "oldest teenager in the house"? Exaggerated way to say that men and women think and comunicate/prioritize differently different things concerning objectivity, pragmatics and emotions, and the different expectations put in males and females concerning accountability, albeit in a demeaning language - but I agree this is a hard point to make. Is it canonical, like, did the old school redpill authors defend this point? Cause I dont re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 09:48 PM |
| -2 | How much do you agree with the following sentence?That was a very specific guy on the RP sub, he wasnt as canonically RP as the takes the comment you are responding to are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 09:35 PM |
| 2 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.I would argue that its ok, and since most men have preferences for female sexual purity but most women dont have it for males, its ok Also, what you said about thinking women are objects and men as defiling them has counterparts in both sexes. Men want to own women, women want to feel owned. Most women are submissive in bed, and a whole lot of those are into some form of degradation etc you get the deal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsintent matters if one’s goal is vengeance vs making up for lost time, they’re not going in with good intentions, they’re going in to inflict the pain they experienced on others. Yeah maybe at first some hearts will be broken, but not if the guy is responsible. When I started my manwhore phase I explicitly said to all women I was seeing that I was going out with other girls and that wouldnt change anytime soon. I dont think its about vengeance, its about "justice" in a way. Women can do that, Cha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 07:59 PM |
| 4 | What does being "sexually assertive" even look like?I feel like 80% of the posts directed towards the redpill, including this one, show a lack of understanding (or misunderstanding) of it and could be answered with "go to the TRP/asktrp sub and read the sidebar" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 03:08 PM |
| 2 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?? ?? Are you even responding to the right comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsIts a spectrum of course, but those are the 2 extremes. Most guys are like you, but even then they tend to act like the beta extreme | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 01:49 PM |
| 4 | How do you feel knowing that a decent portion of your male friends, coworkers, acquaintances, etc. would rail you if they had the chance?Damn thats some horny posting Joeks aside, thats a thread I wanna see | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsIts an spectrum Which extreme you you rather be closer to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 11:05 PM |
| 6 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsTheres the common manosphere joke of women having casual sex in their 20s and early 30s and when they are 35 they say "where are all the good men?" Implying they only care for good men after they had a lot of fun with the bad guys Maybe its an instance of that. Maybe they are talking about guys that are the whole package, then yes, they are always taken But when I say "it can be an offense" its because of the redpill idea of AF/BB, Chad has casual sex with the girl and gets to do anal in the clu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Well, while I see your point that life would be more fun, I guess males preferences for sexual purity wont change, for biological and social reasons (virginity, chastity and monogamy increases paternal certainty, which increases paternal investment, creates social cohesion by decreasing male competition and tying men to their communities by way of a family, instead of letting them act selfishly and doing the bare minimum as they would otherwise do. As men are net tax payers and women net tax ben… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Oh, I see, well having a social group like that is more than your average nerd has, still a big advantage in getting girls Also seems like a fun group That sort of insecurity, possessiveness, and focusing so much on the success of others just seems unhealthy and no wonder it can sometimes create bitter, toxic people. To be fair, to me, either casual sex or monogamy makes sense, but not both. Either sex is important or not, I even made a thread about it. When I was monogamous I wanted a virgin gf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Well I wish well for you brother These nerd social groups can be the only way nerd guys get gfs, its a great advantage over lonely nerds, but they tend to be "incesty" from what Ive seen in real life (as in "Im dating your ex and my ex is dating you") If you want an insight behind what attracts men to the redpill, I can reccomemd this comment of mine, and the other two comments I wrote down the stream: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/wzx458/comment/im56qle/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Yeah it would make more sense So... why are you here anyway? Are you saying all that to me or to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:33 PM |
| 2 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?So what do you propose to fix the free for all then? The redpill. Theres no fixing, women are the selectors and they select like that. There are just band aids How would you like the dating market and expectations to change? Would I? Yeah i would. I would like people from both sexes to be virgins until marriage and to women to get their pussies wet for hard working, kind and smart guys regardless of their looks or extroversion, so every guy would have a chance to improve. Will that ever happen? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:22 PM |
| 4 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsMen and women don’t think the same, we don’t value being lusted after as much as some men. Thatz exactly why to a women beng relationship material is a compliemnt and to a guy it can be an offense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?I dont really think it will even out, at best it oscillates between giving women freedom vs restriting the freedom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:13 PM |
| 7 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsThank you for such a well thought out response, I actually understood a lot of what you said. Honestly it’s rare to actually have a debate that doesn’t devolve into name calling so it really appreciated. Thanks for making the effort to understand too. This conversation went way better than our previous one about what was a hubby x beta hubby type What I don’t get is why the solution is seen as good when really it’s just vengeance. You’re punishing a woman who’s choosing to be with you for other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Well while I agree with you on this, I still hold that women get to be merciless in sexual selection standards, even if in other areas of society we try to help people that dont have the best genes, suddenly dating is "free for all", no limits eugenics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 07:59 PM |
| 5 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsOr are they relationship material same as a billy beta? The difference is when a guy says to a woman shes relationship material thats a compliment. When a girl says so it can be an offense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 07:56 PM |
| 5 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?In the end they are all examples of evolution in action, we just make up categories and call them different names, but its the same process. The separation of natural and artificial is already artificial. Also see the edit on my wikipedia comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 07:53 PM |
| 7 | Women here, what advice would you give to your sons going into dating?an asshole, always expect sex, Unironically would fuck more than a guy that did the opposite | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 07:50 PM |
| 3 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Eugenics implies a calculated change to the gene pool. The wikipedia definition I cited is quite clear and says nothing about how calculated it should be to fit the definition. It only says a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of the human population. If women have this set of beliefs and practices by instinct or by arriving at it by logical conclusions, both fit the description and have the same results | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 06:57 PM |
| 7 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsSo red pill teaches you, you can change your genetics? No, its about playing the best game with the hand you were given. You camt change your face or height or dick size but can get fit or jacked, learn game, learn how women and men differ etc and for them they can reach the red pill goal but that’s not going to work for everyone True. If you dont believe in bluepill anymore but also couldnt make it in the redpill, there comes the blackpill I don’t get what’s being sold. When it comes to casual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 06:03 PM |
| 12 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Thats true Men also have eugenic preferences, they are just not in the position to exercise them like women are Also theres more variation for mens preferences than womens. BBW fetishes come to mind, theres no equivalent for women. Even gay guys have it in the form of Teddy Bears, but women simply dont have a widespread fetish or preference for fat guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 05:34 PM |
| 3 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?I mean yeah theres is nuance and exceptions, but there are also trends that gives us insight into the whole If there were some “planned breeding” project where all women were like “ok we’re only going to mate with [tall guys, blonde guys, white guys, etc]” then maybe women would be practicing eugenics. I guess thats semantics. I take systematic to mean any system-wise tendency that is coordinated, even if on the individual micro levels, to generate some kind of outcome, and I guess you take it t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 05:25 PM |
| 9 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?It isnt about one individuals preference, you are right But when you gather a large amount of women and all of them tend to have the same preferences, thats seems pretty systematic to me, even if not done in a deliberate way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 05:06 PM |
| 17 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Eugenics (/juːˈdʒɛnɪks/ yoo-JEN-iks; from Ancient Greek εύ̃ (eû) 'good, well', and -γενής (genḗs) 'come into being, growing')[1][2] is a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population.[3][4] From wikipedia Which sex is the chooser of good genes in the human species and most animal species? Which sex of animals compete by way of physical fights, singing or building things and which sex selects and judges if those things fit their criteria? Edit: for the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 04:51 PM |
| 13 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsSo do men expect to be treated like sexy hunks even if they aren’t? They dont expect, but they surely resent it. Thats why the redpill exist at all in the first place I mean, when men realize that Chad is fucking left and right their crushes, who they thought were shy pure girls, while they are trying to find a girl that has never done casual sex, with no success, the second best option is to be as Chad as you can, since you wont get your nice virgin wife. And then when they try to have casual s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?In this sub alone you have people whining about how they don’t know why red pill is so demonized when it basically just means “attractiveness is important to men’s dating success and men who are struggling should get fit/maximize their attractiveness however possible. People should stop pretending a good personality will get men laid” Then you have men also in here who think red pill means “women’s sex lives should be as tightly controlled by men as they were historically because otherwise they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsSo, let me see, as far as what I said is descriptive, you agree with it? Why does billy beta expect to get the same life experience as chad, honestly asking Does he expect it? Should he? I dont know, maybe I will ask him next time I see him Where’s the disconnect? I’m genuinely asking What disconnect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 04:00 PM |
| 5 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsTo be fair looks are factor number one hut theres also the game/confidence/"getting it" bar, but its not like Billy thr Beta passes it either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | If men are expected to put up with women's hormones, why aren't Women expected to put up with men's hormones?for a whole week once a month we're supposed to give her leeway to be a bitch and excuse her treating peole like shit. Often times we're expected to take care of her and cater to her needs during this time, and be extra nice while being treated harshly. That only happens to Billy the Beta. You should maintain frame when she acts like that, and dont take her bullshit. Women are more unsatisfied the more you cather to their demands Yet women often don't treat mean well when he's horny, and instead… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 03:29 PM |
| 25 | Women have very high standards for a first date, but very low standards when they get into relationshipsYou are viewing this the wrong way. There is more than one bar. Theres the bar for looks and the bar for being a good person Chad can hit it raw in the clubs bathroom, no foreplay, and can get away with being a Nazi and not wiping his butt if in a relationship Billy the Beta has to be the perfect house pet, hear constant nagging, and still only get starfish sex after 6 months of dating, she doesnt have to ask him for forelay because he stops fucking every 5 minutes to do it, as is his duty to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Because women are eugenic and it filters weak males | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 03:19 PM |
| 2 | I’m looking more into the female gaze, what is the main thing that you love in movies/ books that are more oriented to the female gaze?The story of O | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 01:20 AM |
| 2 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?It's mostly understood as the opposite of TRP, which is (or should be) well known here. Well, using the example of AF/BB I cited then, which position is the standard one for bluepill? We know redpills standard positions on a lot of things, less so with BPs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Thats toughtful of you! Im sorry too if you are having one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Yes, and that’s all fine and good. We all believe in something whether we realize it or not. Hmm very convenient for discussion and ending discussion specifically I’m just going to think back fondly on your post the next time I read another rEdPiLl Is An AmOrAl ToOlKiT nOt An IdEoLoGy I would never deny that redpill is an ideology as much as mainstream dating advice is one too, albeit one that drinks from the fountains of traditional romance/gender roles and feminism Oh but by all means do that,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 11:06 PM |
| 3 | How would you feel about your children struggling with dating?At least they support their son, they will be doing it together now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 11:01 PM |
| 16 | How would you feel about your children struggling with dating?Lol you rather want him to be a virgin until 25? After 20 discovering the redpill is fair game man, and Im giving you the 18-19 years leeway of a functional adult but not yet very mature Never having kissed a girl until 25 while some of your peers are already getting married is way more psychological damage than almost any person that discovered the redpill before that age suffers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 10:56 PM |
| 7 | How would you feel about your children struggling with dating?What age are we talking here? OPs age? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 06:45 PM |
| 16 | How would you feel about your children struggling with dating?If they’re seriously struggling, I’d worry about their social skills and potentially getting sucked into the redpill/ That might actually help him lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 06:18 PM |
| 0 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Now that I think of it, there may be a precise (albeit tongue in cheek) definition of bluepill: the dilution of insight into nuance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Ok lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?It’s doesn’t matter, that’s what it is Cant tell if thats a sincere response from a bper or a joke about how one of the examples I gave was about bpers saying "things are like that, you do you" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Well while I also dont agree with people that say we dont have morals without religion, a counterpoint: all our legal and social philosophy came from ethical philosophy, which came from theology and religion. We can only afford ourselves to be moral without religion because we take for granted and forget the religious basis of our morals | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:55 PM |
| 0 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?RP is an ideology, but in the very first sentence of my OP I also say that what is acceptable in mainstream dating is also an ideology, but its just a poorly defined, non explicit, vague and contradicting one, and that thats the ideology BP defends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?All you said is very true I only take issue with this But you don't need to argue against "it." You're arguing against a person. If someone articulates a belief or system, I can debate (or at least question) that belief system. I don't need their belief(s) to be part of a larger dogma or group. If their ideas are debatable, they're debatable, that's it. When you are not bond to a system of belief, you can have any belief you want, including beliefs that if put together contradict each other. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 05:31 AM |
| 0 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Redpill is more dilluted now, but as I said you can point out redpill ideas, and there are whole wikis and blog articles about them, trying to expose and arrange them in coherent fashion What are the main tenets of redpill? And of blue pill? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:44 AM |
| -1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?I tjink this is accurate but kind of misleading/off topic - "yeah ok maybe bluepill has no definite meaning at all, but did you know redpill has lost some of the original meaning? Thats the bigger problem" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Sir, you chose to take it as an insult. Of course I didnt take it as an insult, my dick is a tremenduous thinker Being much more "misogynist" does not mean that there was no romance, nor that it didn't go through generations of trial and error. So... not like blue pill at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?But somewhere along the way people like you started to think with your dicks, Keeping the debate civil and classy I see First off, blue pill is not a thing, it's a term given by new red pillers to describe anyone who uses what should be common sense dating advice, backed by over 100 years of research, and 1000s of years of trial and error. ... You want to know what the concrete system is for, "blue pillers?" It's the same thing people have done since the beginning of humanity, which is why doesn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:07 AM |
| 8 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?“Blue-Pillers” don’t go around calling themselves Blue-Pilled, because the Blue Pill isn’t an actual ideology. Well here they do, we have whole threads asking something specifically for bluepillers to answer, and a lot of people amswer them The Blue Pill isn’t a philosophy, it’s a term Red-Pillers use to describe people who don’t subscribe to their philosophy. The point in my OP is... well, pretty convenient not defining your terms and wanting to debate people that have their terms defined, dont… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:46 AM |
| 3 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Im RP but in almost every thread I make I end up agreeing with your point, so i guess you are right about that too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Well that seems like a poor definition because there is a whole lot of thjngs that are supported by scientific research but are talking points of the redpill or even blackpill The fact that you said "my definition" also highlights that we dont have a consensus about what the bluepill is, thus hindering debate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:31 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the fact that the blue pill doesnt have a standard set of beliefs, like the redpill does, hinders any debate here?Christendom, traditionalism and traditional masculinity While I agree with this I think its more complicated than that because feminism is brought in too into the mix, and when you mix those things with feminism contradictions ensue. Hence the "just treat women like people/equal" x "men should pay", or "women should not have to be bond by outdate standards of virginity and chastity" and "I still expect outdate chivalry", "monogamy is important" and "sex is like a handshake" etc So you just got a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data.I was just reciprocating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data.I never said women didn’t have different standards for guys she sleeps with vs dates — I said the reason for this has nothing to do with Alpha chads being less of a risk. You’re not understanding me, that’s the whole issue. Oh, I didnt say Alphas are LESS of a risk. What I said is that when balancing looks/risk in casual sex, Chads can PASS THE THRESHOLD. In other words, he isnt LESS of a risk, he is WORTH the risk. In my original comment, I said that bpers say that women only have casual sex if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Oh ok thats a nice analogy But I still dont know how that justify you calling my question a gotcha one But yeah, people want things for their children everytime, even before they are born they are still projecting and dreaming about what their children will do or be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...How so? I dont follow the reasoning behind that analogy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...To be fair if it was a gotcha question I would be responding to every woman that said beta with more questions, but Im not, Im actually upvoting all comments that provide a reasonable justification, regardless of the answer. Im only responding to people who ignore my question entirely and had said whatever, to try to get them to answer the question. I really had no idea what would people respond and would bet in 50/50. If they all had said fuckboy instead, you could also argue that it was a gotc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 05:42 PM |
| 14 | Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data.First, (bad thing that women supposedly do) never ever happens Second, it happens, but its actually men that do it. Women never do it Third, both do it but when women do that it isnt that bad Fourth, it seems like a bad thing but its actually a good thing, and only women do it, not men! The most common one is ''that isn't true, besides, men do it as well.'' What pops in my mind is "AF/BB isnt real, and man have Madonna/Whore too, so its fair!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:51 PM |
| 15 | Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data.That AF/BB is “fair” because of the risks involved in sex for women. I don’t think that’s even logical and I’ve never seen it argued Found one here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/eq0hl7/how_is_it_unfair_that_alpha_males_get_lots_of/ Combine with this comment, and the response to it by the OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/eq0hl7/comment/fenfid0/ Tbf I remember some better argued instances of this, but couldnt find them (Found another one, arguably: https… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:41 PM |
| 1 | If your a man desiring a relationship you should work in a female dominated office, you’ll quickly change your mindwomen cant be bad, in fact... in fact... you are bad! Oh no you got me there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:26 PM |
| 1 | If could use just 1 (one) argument to convince someone from the opposite pill about the validity of your own pill, what would that argument be?Oh didnt you read the OP? Did you post in the right thread? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:20 PM |
| 10 | Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data., I don’t see any of these arguments being made by blue pill people on here. I Which one exactly, of the bluepill arguments I cited, have you never seen here? To be clear, they are: Its fair because as there are more risks for women in casual sex than for men, they only do it when its very worthy, aka with the hottest guys. This one you seem to agree when you say There are risks involved in almost anything, and for some women the reward of a hot guy showing them a good time is enough. 2.They say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:12 PM |
| 1 | If could use just 1 (one) argument to convince someone from the opposite pill about the validity of your own pill, what would that argument be?Vague answers like that, besides saying nothing, domt even allow for people to know what pill you are advocating for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:08 PM |
| 19 | Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data.You again? I’m noticing a theme that you tend to put words in people’s mouths that no one is saying. I just cited things I saw people saying here. I guess bluepill being vague and not having a standardized line of thinking, as redpill does, doesnt help Women can make their own choices regarding risk and benefit, Thats literally what I said one of the arguments go particularly when birth control and abortion lowers the risk. Pregnancy was one of the risks I was mentioning, but the other is going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 02:20 PM |
| 1 | If could use just 1 (one) argument to convince someone from the opposite pill about the validity of your own pill, what would that argument be?I cant figure out which pill you are advocating for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 01:52 PM |
| 4 | If could use just 1 (one) argument to convince someone from the opposite pill about the validity of your own pill, what would that argument be?I believe you would have to be more specific, as a lot of bpers dont believe BB exists the same way rpers do ("she loves the husband, hes getting the best deal out of it") or they believe it exists but dont believe its very prevalent, so it doesnt deserve to be so discussed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 01:43 PM |
| 72 | Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data.I think the problem isn't if TRP is right or not so much as that the arguments against it kinda don't take things to a logical conclusion because the logical conclusion "sounds bad". A lot of women say they want a man they can look up to, but don't like the idea that that man will often look down on them. They talk about reactive sexualities but don't really address that by necessity you need a proactive aggression to counterbalance that. Thats a very good point. I have also noticed that sometim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 01:00 PM |
| 23 | Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data.I guess hating women makes one take a lot of showers, increasing dating success | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:44 PM |
| 1 | If your a man desiring a relationship you should work in a female dominated office, you’ll quickly change your mindI worked in a woman dominated place for a year. The whole year went alright, everyone seemed to like everyone else Then by the end we had a happy hour in a bar with almost everyone. The only subject at the table, and that went for like two hours, was gossip about the people who were not there. I shit you not, they would notice the most stupid stuff about other people just to spill their poison. I never thought they even dislike those people, you couldnt tell by how they treated them. And matter … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Good luck with that Who will maintain the roads, mine for metals and etc? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Yeah whatever but would she be a fuckboy or a beta hubby? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:18 PM |
| 8 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Based mama | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:23 AM |
| -1 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?My point is that men and women are different, theres no denying, and they have different standards So for example men are on average stronger and taller than women, and that is so because female selection put evolutionary pressure on them to be that way Should women only hold standards for height they themselves fulfil? That would be absurd, and in the last consequence if we applied that to every standard we would arrive at the conclusion that men can only date men and women can only date women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Why | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 01:30 AM |
| -2 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?If you want to date a man, you have to be a man? If we take that to the logical conclusion only homosexuals should date Edit: I clarified my line of thinking down the comment stream, here it is: My point is that men and women are different, theres no denying, and they have different standards So for example men are on average stronger and taller than women, and that is so because female selection put evolutionary pressure on them to be that way Should women only hold standards for height they th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 01:28 AM |
| 0 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?Pretty sure the concept of slut shaming is purely human made Well we are humans after all, all the concepts are human made Religious circles care way more about a woman’s virginity than non religious circles. True, but they all prefer it Pretty sure the earliest humans couldn’t care less about virginity or n count. And Im pretty sure every culture that reached the level of a civilization had strict rules for female virginity, chastity and monogamy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 01:12 AM |
| 0 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?Plenty of women care if a man is promiscuous and many men don’t care. Yes, religion for women and liberal feminism for men can override that But that doesnt change the fact that, without constant and extensive indocrination, men tend to care about sexual promiscuity and women dont | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?Well, I think this debate has a pretty big obstacle We can argue about shoulds, in a ideal sense And we can argue about woulds, in a realistic one Of course it would be a dream if everyone was equal and men could cry and women could be sluts without repercussions etc But that wont likely change because of biology and because of our Western baggage, which because of restrictions like that made possible what we have now. But thats also a very arguable point, I am aware Luckily that second point is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 01:00 AM |
| 0 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?Thats not a christian thing Ancient China, India, Greece, Rome, Babylon, Mesopotamia etc all had stricter standards of virginity and chastity for women than for men Men dont need a virgin Mary to believe virgin women are pure, men pictured the mother of God as a virgin because they think virginity in women is purity and they value that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:55 AM |
| 3 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?Oh, I see I guess I cant really agree with you, to me men and women are indeed apples and oranges Following your example, a man without a job is a loser but a woman without a job is not, because people expect men to have jobs and provide. Not double standards, but different standards applied to different kinds of people No one expects a woman to carry or lift heavy loads, no one expects a man to cry profusely in public | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:48 AM |
| 2 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?The vast majority of men alive today and throughout History, from different places and epochs, just had this preference then, for no reason at all, but you can see through the sillyness of that and know better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:44 AM |
| 4 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?If that’s the case we have to assume there’s something inherently different about men and women that makes the standards make sense to apply differently Men and women are different. They have different preferences, which lead to different standards applied to each other. Why wouldnt it be fair? Its based on the sexes own preferences Do you think any of the standards OP cites are unfair? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?Who? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:31 AM |
| 5 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?I dont think they are double standards just because they are different For example, in a workplace situation A double standard would be the boss' cousin always getting the easier jobs A different standard, but not double, would be the IT team and the HR team getting different kinds of demand. No one expects IT guys to recruit new employees, nor the HR team to fix the companys website | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:30 AM |
| 3 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?It’s an arbitrary number Arbitrary on the womans part, you mean? She is the arbitrer of how high that number will be It’s like saying I won’t date any guy who’s ever been vegetarian (if let’s say I eat meat). He’s not vegetarian while he’s with you, so what does it matter what he did or didn’t eat in the past? If thats your preference, ok, not silly. If you believe in soul and believe eating or not some kind of food maculates the soul, that would be a possible justification for that behavior. So… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Double standards - Are they something inherently bad, or just a part of dating?Men and women have different preferences Its not a double standard situation, its an apples and oranges situation - you cant really compare them in that way as they are not symmetrical, they are complementary Do women care if the man is promiscuous? No, but men care if a woman is. So men can get away with that but women cant Do women prefer guys 2 to 8 years older than themselves? Yes, but men dont prefer women from 2 to 8 years older than themselves, on the contrary, so these preferences comple… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...So... whats the question? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Which one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 10:27 PM |
| 3 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Oh no | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 09:28 PM |
| 5 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...If you didnt now any of this, that tells me you are new here Go away while you can lol this place has nothing good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Thats true, but thats not what Im asking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Ok, so fuckboy or beta hubby? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:17 PM |
| 4 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Purple = red plus blue Both refering to how this is a neutral ground for both red and blue pillers to debate, or refering to people that are purple pilled, as in they believe some things from red and some from blue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Well, my point is that people can be a certain type, but that isnt a guarantee about their fate at all. A man being a beta hubby type does not imply necessarily that he will be someones husband or part of a family So when you said The ‘hubby’ part was kinda a dead giveaway that he would be a part of a family. That is wrong because that simply does not follow, no dead giveaway at all If I think beta hubby means a man who has a family I’m free to do that am I not? Yeah, you could interpret it as b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...PPD = purple pill debate, aka this very sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:02 PM |
| -1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Nope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Ok very good So... fuckboy or beta hubby type? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Why | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:51 PM |
| 0 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...So... fuckboy or beta hubby type? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...I see you have been studying for that PhD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:35 PM |
| 0 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...now my interpretation has to be under guidelines not given? Never said that, just restated and emphasized something I said in the OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:27 PM |
| 6 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Do you interrupt a soccer game and start to play it with your hands, because playing with your feet is an absurd constraint based on false consensus? I haven't yet gotten my PHD in stupid yet You are gonna make it 🙏🙏🙏 you can educate me at least on what you're attempting to discern here? Of course. I proposed 2 options that women here have some idea of what they are, and I asked them to choose one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Why alternative? Lol Im curious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Its implied, it goes along with their answers in the "why?" part | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:08 PM |
| 5 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...So... a fuckboy or a beta hubby type? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:49 PM |
| 0 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Would you want him to be a fuckboy or a beta hubby type? And why? And why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:35 PM |
| -2 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...I did let it for interpretation When I said this To be fair, I didnt say he would be a hubby, I said he would be a beta hubby type I just restate what I said in the OP, its already there Whats left to clarify? Edit: Also technically I didn’t say husband either I said ‘family’ The ‘hubby’ part was kinda a dead giveaway that he would be a part of a family. Even if they had no kids a HUSBAND and wife or HUSBAND and HUSBAND is still a family… What? Seems to me you did say husband | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:34 PM |
| 4 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...daughter or abortion for me An answer that engages with the post or under automod for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...To be fair, I didnt say he would be a hubby, I said he would be a beta hubby type | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:11 PM |
| 6 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...You were expecting a gotcha but there isnt any Gotcha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Why? I am open to clarify anything you think needs clarification | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:08 PM |
| 5 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...What exactly is this question trying to prove? Its a question, not a math exercise from a textbook. Not trying to prove anything, theres no gotcha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:06 PM |
| 8 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...In your mind are those the only two choices? Not in my mind, no But in my post, yes And its in my post you are commenting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:04 PM |
| 4 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...you only got those two choices to make You only got those two choices = nothing else is a valid answer, so "neither" isnt a valid answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:59 PM |
| 6 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Beta hubby, so long as he fuckboy phase in his youth No cheating, you can only choose one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:57 PM |
| 11 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...No in between, you only got those two choices to make Its in the post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:56 PM |
| 7 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...So... beta hubby or fuckboy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Thats ok, as Im more interested in what women think are fuckboys and beta hubbies than in them answering to a specific question of the form "A is m, n and p; B is x, y and z. Which one do you choose?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:50 PM |
| 11 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...betta hubby is pretty much all married men whether they can get casual sex or not. I would say beta hubby men arent exactly very good at getting casual sex But thanks for the answer, fair enough, even tho you are considering more his older years than younger years | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:47 PM |
| 4 | Women of PPD, if you had a son...Feel free to state your own definitions on your answer then I dont give definitions as to not bias the question Also if you at least lurk here for some time you have a feeling for what these two terms mean | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Most men that aren't having sex are otherwise fairly normal dudes, not women hating misogynists like reddit and society would lead you to believeI agree with all you said but my point still stands. Its not the shorter route to slay, and it works more for your relationship game than your casual sex game | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:09 PM |
| 3 | Most men that aren't having sex are otherwise fairly normal dudes, not women hating misogynists like reddit and society would lead you to believeAlso - therapy isn’t an “empty platitude”, if you get in with an open mind you’ll begin to understand so much more about why your trauma response is the way it is, plus - by working on your personality, and i’m talking actually working on your personality, you’ll eventually become less jaded and start working on other factors of your life that also need improving The point about it being an empty platitude is not that it doesnt help, it obviously does. The point is that there are fucked up men o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 12:12 PM |
| 3 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelActually I was talking about womens view of AF/BB x redpill and game Dont know where did you get the idea of rape from but it wasnt from me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?Ok fair enough in my scenario, how so? well if you mean it how i think you might, it seems to me like the husband shouldn't marry because he doubts her love for him. Not about doubting love, just above poor treatment. Fuckboy guy diditn do much and was in, hubby guy need to qualify and jump through hoops. Any self respecting man, even if he wants to be a husband, would prefer the route fuckboy->hubby, which is shorter, instead of going straight for hubby In your analogy, going the fuckboy rote p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?Pinky swear? 🥺🤝 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 11:57 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?Thanks, that clarified that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 11:55 AM |
| 3 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelYeah. I am not from the USA, not even Europe You guys have no idea how much you export your culture, culture wars included | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?There are degrees to things Bargaining, convincing, flattering, lying, threatening etc are all ways to make people do something they werent initially inclined to do All of them are also psychological tactics as you said But some of those ways are more ethical than others | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?Thats just not right In nature theres no ethics, and theres a lot of rape We only have a legal system because of ethics, and the legal systems regulates a lot of stuff regarding dating directly or indirectly We may perceive the dating game as lacking ethics because we take for granted the ethics that are in place in our legal system and our social mores and cohesion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?it's like a job interview where bob isn't doing so hot. "but you hired tom so you have to hire me! nevermind that i have less experience and worse people skills. you hired tom so you must hire me and pay me the same as him." This picture you painted makes the husband material guy seem to be getting the short end of the stick. Thats what AF BB is about But before you said AF BB doenst really exist, its just a natural process of chenge that rp men labeled as a bad thing How can you reconcile both … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?Two wrongs make a right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?Wait are you saying that lying and negging are ethically right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?I dont know, offending and demeaning with the intention of majipulation sounds unethical enough to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:24 PM |
| 4 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?Pretending as in lying or pretending as in "it was never really stated and we just rolled with it?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?Fair enough I guess But is it wrong for a man to learn game to fuck as many women as he can? Provided he doesnt use tactics such as negging or lying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?How does madonna whore justify AF BB? What are the logical implications that lead from one to the other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?How can a man know if the woman has really changed or not? Dont you agree with the redpill view that a woman fucking random hot fun guys in her 20s and when a bit older finding a stable, responsible guy to settle with, even if not totally intentional, sounds very convenient and very similar to the proverbial cake that is eaten and kept? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, do you believe AF/BB is morally wrong? Why or why not?You seem to talk in terms of sin, and what you said implies that when someone commits an action that would otherwise be a sin, but they dont commit it with intention, then its not really sin and it is absolved. Correct? Then, does always being ignorant of your motives, repeatedly doing wrong, but without self examination and therefore without intention, means you get to always be absolved of your sins? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:00 PM |
| 6 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelCultural norms usually dictate that “who asks, pays” Very convenient when men are supposed to ask | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelYour ad hominens aside, you admit that feminism works based on mens good will then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelWow, case in point: benevolent sexism is sexims that benefits women, malignant sexism is sexism that benefits men Its the other way ariund, if men didnt have good will, feminism wouldnt work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelIts not about personal isues its about larger trends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:01 PM |
| 7 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelTalk about a meta comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:00 PM |
| 5 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelThe point is kot wanting everything The point is women can act based only on personal gain but when it comes to mens actions, suddenly moral principles are involved | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:58 PM |
| 4 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelIn some cases people relaly make mistakes and shoudl apologize, even then the situation I described happens 2.it still works so much as to put pressure on every major corporation Not talking about personal issuesbhere, but underlying bigger issues the personal issue just exemplify How so? What do you mean? You agree with point 4 then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:55 PM |
| 4 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelIm confused, you started by saying no but seems to only have provided arguments for my thesis, not against it. For example, women know men wont hit them so they will "mention their cruel truth" as you put it Unless Im misreading what you said, in that case feel free to correct md | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelMaybe I hadmt argued with so much substantiation as I should, but as its something I have only recently begin to think about, I went for a sketchy outline rather than a conclusive proof About discussions, I believe on average wome are more ruthless, I will try to think about something and maybe edit here later instead of staying in this anecdote vs anecdote thing Yeah, my point was about the body acceptance movement. So you half agree with this one? I remember seeing something about women in the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Is Alpha Fucks - Beta Bucks dynamic the equivalent of Madonna Whore Complex?They have some similarities but are not the same. For example, they are not symmetrical Men think the wife is worthy more than the slut Women would rather be the wife than the slut Women think the husband material is worthy more than the fuckboy Men would rather be the fuckboy than the husband material | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:34 AM |
| 5 | Does Red Pill ideology help you in dating?How do men who make up roughly 50% of the people participating in the system not have an influence over the system? Thats like saying if the 99% are part of the system why is the 1% so rich? 99% is more than 1%, they should have more influence But things arent democratic in nature, we make them democratic sometimes but it is artificial Women select, men perform. Male birds sings or build nests, female birds choose. Male moose and crabs fight, female moose and crab choose There was that guy in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:17 AM |
| -4 | What are the future consequences of RP going mainstream?It wont be that popular, but most of the ideas will sip into public consciousness one way or another by other names Men will keep adapting to fuck, incels will keep not having sex, women will probably pick up on some things about RP ideas but they will still keep fucking Chad and guys with game. So just what is already happening but amplified. Probably misoginy will return to its traditional place within common sense along the next two decades, as more and more young men are adopting rp views in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:53 PM |
| 1 | How to become the "bad boy"The problem in this sub is that a lot of people think the whole nice/bad boy dichotomy is binary with no room for nuance. Of course theres nuance but a girl isnt thinking with nuance when getting her back blown by Chad I agree with you actually in almost everything but generalizations are still useful for a reason | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:31 PM |
| 4 | Why do you think gay men and lesbians don't need to use red pill, fds and debate on subs like this?Probably because when men date men or women date women they have similar views and sexual strategies and can understand each other Couple that difference between men and women with the mainstream misleading idea that "men and women are equal" and the fact that even to begin being able to date is harder for men, and you can see how the redpill comes in handy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 01:34 PM |
| 1 | [Meta discussion] Is this sub quality declining steeply? If so, why?That is a very good point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 12:47 PM |
| 53 | Men trip about n-count, but the average number of sexual partners for men and women (based on millennials) is about the same.I mean yeah considering straight people the averages should be the same, each fuck by a man equals abfuck by a woman Now, how are these fucks distributed among the men and the women? The median is really telling here, and other indexes of unequal distribution Also, does the study includes virgins? A lot of them only include sexually active people, people whi had at least 1 partner etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 12:46 PM |
| 2 | Straight men, when is it OK for gay men to cold approach you?Are you implying that women arent attracted to men? Because straight men arent attracted to gay men. You can only equate straight men approaching straight women with gay men approaching straight men if you think women dont like men, or at least they only like very few men (since you said for 90 pct of you), but that only fuels the argument that women are Chadsexual So I really dont understand the point here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 12:37 PM |
| 0 | [Meta discussion] Is this sub quality declining steeply? If so, why?My point was that maybe while redpillers and FDSer had subs for themselves, the worst of them were confined there and PPD was for people wanting to hear the other side Now that they have nowhere to go the scum of all those subs are here too Also, citing what I said myself responding to another comment: What I said about "redpill becoming mainstream" refers to the influx of newbies that got a bastardized version of it out of youtube | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 03:26 PM |
| 2 | [Meta discussion] Is this sub quality declining steeply? If so, why?Based on this, my intuition is that you think it's declining because you don't agree with the ideas presented lately. Well that exemplifies the kind of lack of reading comprehension I talked about. I was very clear in my post about the form of the comments being the issue, not the content. All examples I gave are of people being confused and making a mess out of the discussion, I didnt mention anything about the opinions being bad at all, nor have I insinuated that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 03:10 PM |
| 15 | Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest???? What does that have to do with what I said? I agree with you but my point OPs premises and line of reasoning is dumb, that is if he even has one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Do women want guys to be confident or what?That and more, like knowing when to physically escalate, knowing how and when to playfully banter, knowing how to get people to feel fun and emotions aka not be boring in a date, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 10:52 PM |
| 7 | Do women want guys to be confident or what?Not talking neurotic or hyper aware, just a guy that knows what to do when when to do it in social settings | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 10:51 PM |
| 0 | Is a person a hypocrite for being attracted to qualities they don't possess? Do they have an obligation to not be attracted to those qualities, or possess them themselves?I did I was pointing out that when men do that, they get screwed because they reach an age where there is no more chaste women anymore, and its hard for them to give up their values and take the second best option, becoming a fuckboy overnight. Women on the other hand can try that and if it they dont find a man that shares her values she can take the second option of having easy sex I am already assuming that most men that are chaste and want a chaste gf wont find one, and will either die a virg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 10:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Modern Redpill is the male equivalent to modern feminismIt isnt feasible but is approachable Like we will never live forever, thats a sci fi fantasy, but being able to develop technology to live longer and healthier lives is a good thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 10:44 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Modern Redpill is the male equivalent to modern feminismProbably men and women having the same sexual opportunities? I dont know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest?Women complain about feminism and patryarchy but int it survival of the fittest? Leftists complain abiut wealth inequality but isnt it survival of the fittest? People complain about crimes but isnt it survival of the fittest? See how dumb I sound? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 10:13 PM |
| 0 | Is a person a hypocrite for being attracted to qualities they don't possess? Do they have an obligation to not be attracted to those qualities, or possess them themselves?Or you want them to be a virgin, because you believe that sex should be shared between life-long spouses, but you've slept around yourself. This one I cant really gree with, only because women do not care for a mens sexual promiscuity, but men do care for a womens sexual promiscuity. The sexes are not symmetrical in their preferences, they are complementary Lets be real the quota of men that have never done casual sex for moral reasons is bigger than womens. If they followed this advice you gave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 03:05 PM |
| 22 | Do women want guys to be confident or what?When people say women like confident men they are talking about men that are extroverted, socially savy, know game, are kind of dominant, who dont make a fool of themselves, know when to talk and how to be respected when talking, know what they want and how to get it, dont bend over for others etc What you are talking about is standards in dating apps which bear no relation to any of that. What redpill says about having options is that if a man have options its a signal indicating he is a high v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Bluepill people, do you agree with the redpill views on female attraction?I did now Pretty solid advice tbh thanks A lot of it seems to overlap with redpill (maintaining frame albeit with other name, confidence aka security etc) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 09:25 PM |
| 2 | "100 strokes of brush..." or "the MAXIMUM of sex is done with MINIMUM love" conundrumMan you didt even care to understand my point did you? I talk about A and you answer about B | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 07:11 PM |
| 2 | "100 strokes of brush..." or "the MAXIMUM of sex is done with MINIMUM love" conundrumHow so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 06:41 PM |
| 2 | "100 strokes of brush..." or "the MAXIMUM of sex is done with MINIMUM love" conundrumYou dont No one say anyone do My point still stands, they are different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Bluepill people, do you agree with the redpill views on female attraction?Like attracts like. Having a secure attachment style and behaving as such boosts your chances of attracting secure. Men cant wait until women flock to them. I agree with everything you said, but you still has not said what men can DO to generate SEXUAL attraction. Thats why I emphasized both terms. How would you advise men to ACT, as in a doable actions, and not just "wait until attract", to generate SEXUAL attraction, not relationship worthiness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 06:03 PM |
| 2 | "100 strokes of brush..." or "the MAXIMUM of sex is done with MINIMUM love" conundrumAll those things in the former are ok to try in a relationship with or without the company of your oartner. But try having sex without your partner, I dont think they are going to like it. That shows the things you said in the former are different than sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Bluepill people, do you agree with the redpill views on female attraction?If I had included PUA shit about negging, for example, I think what you said about attatchment styles would be right, but thats not the case Redpillers would probably counter that by saying the things in my OP work for all attatchments styles You would probably disagree. So I ask: what can a man DO to generate SEXUAL attraction in a person with secure attatchment if not the things in my OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:24 PM |
| 4 | "100 strokes of brush..." or "the MAXIMUM of sex is done with MINIMUM love" conundrumThe book is written by a woman tho, and probably read by virtually only women, as things in this genre tend to be There was an erotic book in the 60s called the story of O. It was an erotic book about a female sex slave that has to give pleasure to strangers at parties. People were outraged, those were degraded male fantasies! Oh, but later they found out, shock, that book was written by a woman. Also relevant, women watch violent and degrading porn much more than men do, any research about the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 02:04 PM |
| 2 | "100 strokes of brush..." or "the MAXIMUM of sex is done with MINIMUM love" conundrumFrom what you said thats an absolutely disgusting book. Didnt know about it but reminds me of a movie on Netflix I watched with my SO. It was about a teen virgin girl that fucks a beach Chad on summer vacation on the beach. She was into him but when it finally happens she just kinda starfish her way through it and kinda dissociates until he is done having his way (no abuse or anything from his part, she seems to do that just because). Her family is well off but after that she becomes a prostitut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 01:58 PM |
| 37 | The concept of "the bar is in hell" is a psychological prison for men.The bar is not in hell u/Cibfbfin said it all: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/wrftjo/comment/iksb00d/ A more acurate description is the bar is in hell in other areas for men that have nice looks and are confident/dominant/know game/"get it". If a guy already makes the girls pussy wet he can get away with not wiping his butt or being a Nazi But the bar for looks and confidence/dominance/game/"get it" factor is higher than it was some years ago | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Bluepill people, do you agree with the redpill views on female attraction?Thisis all fine and dandy but it doesnt take into account what men should DO when dating A man can have a secure attatchment style, have lots of friends from both sexes and still be clueless about how the hell he is supposed to act with a girl he likes. Sexual attraction has some rules and this doesnt say anything about that Also We should be aiming for secure partners and striving for security ourselves. Yeah in LTRs, but no one cares for attatchemnt style when they are only looking for a shag … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 12:37 PM |
| 1 | So how many sex partners means a woman is "riding a cock carousel"?5th date? What are you, a Mormon? If she doesnt jump your bones in 27 minutes you might as well next her Thats an exaggeration of course, but only 3 months for the virgin? If she didnt give up her virginity with all the modern world has to offer she most likely wont do it for me in 3 months, and if she did thats kind of concerning, kinda makes me think she just wanted anyone to lose the virginity with, so why not go for literally anyone, casually? But good on you on having standards even if I di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 02:08 PM |
| 11 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"This is a good response If you are tired or if you are going to say "fuck prostitutes" then its better for everyone involved if you just dont post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 01:43 PM |
| 25 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"Thats the most bad faith response in here He is talking about how men dont like to feel they are less attractive to a woman than the guys in her past. And then you suggest he pay women who are not attracted to him to fuck him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 12:56 PM |
| 22 | Isnt this deception? (Fuckboys x bf material)Thats a excellent analogy, so Im upvoting this But seems like a bad situation for the man even in the light of this analogy, you are more important to that person so she gives you less | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Isnt this deception? (Fuckboys x bf material)You cant catch feelings just from good sex with bad people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 02:19 PM |
| 21 | Isnt this deception? (Fuckboys x bf material)Extremely insightful Thanks for the time you took to give such a good response | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 02:19 PM |
| 6 | Isnt this deception? (Fuckboys x bf material)Most women don't make dudes wait months for sex. You guys seriously picture all women as fictional 1960s characters lol May be an exaggeration for sure but even fuckboy first nigh sex x bf material 3 weeks sex is a double standard Glamor, which isn't a reputable magazine I will say, says about 46% of men and 33% of women admit to having sex on the first date. Possibly misleading statistics. Anyone that has done sovial research knows the importance of phrasing. A woman may fuck a guy in the clubs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 02:15 PM |
| 4 | Isnt this deception? (Fuckboys x bf material)Is it just an honest signal or is it a way to get power? Because when signals arent honest, I believe we can call them deception, dont you think? Also if its about power the "signaling in which phase she is" part of your comment doest really makes sense, the guy is bekng taken advantage by the signal, its not sometjing to inform him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 02:00 PM |
| 9 | Isnt this deception? (Fuckboys x bf material)If you do everything else to presnet yourself as something you are not, short of lying, thats not deception? What is that then? Omition and manipulation of circustances as to appear something you are not? I dont think theres a pretty way to put it and deception fits well. When you lie about it, we dont talk about deception. We talk about lying As I said, responding to another comment: Oh cmon if I am dressed as a cop and you have been robbed, you have every reason to assume I am a cop and ask fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 01:57 PM |
| 2 | Isnt this deception? (Fuckboys x bf material)But cant you catch feeling for a hot person you fuck even if they are someone you would never date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 01:50 PM |
| 8 | Isnt this deception? (Fuckboys x bf material)The waiting for sex thing isn't only about managing the man's perception about her. It's also the other way around. Women can be disolute by lust which clouds her judgement on whether a man is actually a good long term fit for her. If being overtaken by lust and making bad decision and getting emotionally atacched was a issue they thought about, they woulnt fuck fuckboys either Well I dont get it, you say it a tactic that works but you dont outright call it deception. Why? As for whether it coun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 01:48 PM |
| 11 | Isnt this deception? (Fuckboys x bf material)When people say that sex too early is rushing things it most likely means they want to avoid getting attached until they know you. If sex tends to make them catch feelings there is a good reason to avoid it if they are looking to find a healthy LTR. Not because they sex fucks up a possible good relationship but because it makes a shitty relationship possibly feel too good. Extremely well said but if that was all, women wouldnt fuck "fuckboys" they "dont even like as people, its just sex", becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 01:43 PM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?I dont see how what you siad bears relation to edit 4 Anyway, my question aside all the in depth stiff and arguments and counter arguments of my OP is pretty simple: Is sex trivial (not something very important)? Yes or no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Do you think more ease to travel would affect dating at all?Thats a very (US of) American take Lots of countries dont have the same passport privileges, check it out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?If that was the whole story, see edit 4 please | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 05:12 PM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Maybe edit 4 clarifies that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 05:10 PM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Well, some people would say the excitment of fucking strangers But neither that nor what you said is based on principles, i e, doesnt respond the question if sex is trivial or not and doesnt solve the apparent contradiction I highlighted in my OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:22 PM |
| 3 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?To be fair yours was the first answer that didnt approach the topic through a misguided lens, like the ones I corrected on the edits, nor did you say they are two kinds of sex, like people said without realizing monogamy, nor did you say "well its just differet, sex while single is trivial (because its in the past) and sex in a relationship is not (because its in the present)" like other people did, which makes a relative valuation of sex instead of an absolute one and so is not really a princip… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:19 PM |
| 7 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?The hypocrisy of fast sex x slow hand holding (which makes 0 sense, they will act like porntars about the first and coy 1950s teens about the last) is also something I have argued with people on and off line Good to see more people realize that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:14 PM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?This doesnt answer anything at all. If what you said was the whole story, peopke would be having bareback sex with their partners and condom sex with strangers on the same day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:11 PM |
| 0 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?The idea of "importance" is extremely vague. You have to define your terms. What do you mean? I wrote like 15 paragraphs after the title doing exactly that Also nothing of what you said adresses the question in my OP at all. If theres no contradiction, why isnt the norm to do both at the same time (Relationship and casual sex)? Or putting it another way why is monogamy the norm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 10:52 AM |
| 2 | Is sex inherently degrading for women?No, not all sex is degrading to women, Jesus! Only the sex they enjoy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 02:48 AM |
| 2 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Ok but that doesnt explain based on what principles people that are fine with csual sex want monogamy too You said they are different kinds of sex - why not have both at the same time in your relationship? Fuck your partner for intimate sex and fuck/ let them fuck other people for exciting casual sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 10:16 PM |
| 3 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Hi I’m not saying one moral and one isn’t? True, my bad. But to be fair you did say "its fine", which I agree but was not the point of the discussion Edit 2 makes me think youre structuring the question to get a specific answer. Im not sure my input is helpful to that. I structured my question in terms of principles I saw as existing and the contradicition I saw between them. I expect people to structure their answers in terms of principles that cant be debated too instead of being content with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?You answered based on personal preference, and edit 2 of my OP says why that doesnt answer my question. Do you, on the other hand, agree with edit 3 of the OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:48 PM |
| 3 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?My point is why wanting commitment at all? If sex is trivial and meaningless enough to be had casually, its trivial enough for your spouse to fuck stranger without that bothering you, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?What someone does in the past isn't going to affect you. Thats simply not true Most people wouldnt date a past murderer , to give a rather extreme example Also, from the other end, if sex is trivial why your partner fucking stranger now affects you? Or rather why is sex only trivial in the past but not after the moment you start to love someone? Why is the triviality of an activity dependent of your relative position in life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:32 PM |
| 2 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Yes, but that is still speaking in terms of caring. What are the reasons for that caring? What principles make those two things differ? For example, if you had to give an explanation for that based on principles, what would that be? I illustrated my OP with the principles I saw as existing and the contradiction between them that made me not understand how people could justify that, so I would like to see diverging opinions in terms of principles too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:19 PM |
| 3 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Again, Im not talking in terms of "this is fine" or "isnt fine". Morality and "shoulds" have nothing to do with what Im asking, Im asking for principles Also see edit 2 about "people want X or Y and thats it" Btw because you are non monogamous youre not really the type of person my question was directed at | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 08:31 PM |
| 7 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?What you said was: But clearly there is a difference between having sex with someone in the past and having sex with someone now when you have a commitment not to. I agree with that: if you have commitment - and that is the important part that I agree with - then theres a difference. But while I agree with that on these terms, I take a step back: why make a commitment for monogamy in the first place, as the first edit to my OP says? If you view sex as trivial, there should be no difference betwe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 08:22 PM |
| 4 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?I agree with everything in your comment yet I dont see any point you made being relevant to anything I asked in my OP, in terms of the justification based on principles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 07:41 PM |
| 4 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?What subject matter? The original question of a thread IS the subject matter of that thread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 06:33 PM |
| 3 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?I fail to see how anything you said here bears any relation to the question of if and how people can justify, rationally, thinking both monogamy and casual sex should be pursued and are not contradictory in principle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 06:28 PM |
| 4 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Im not talking about individual cases, Im talking about general principles Also either "A and B NEED to be together" or "A and B DONT NEED to be together" can be true, but they cant be both true and necessarily one of them must be true I appreciate nuance when dealing with individual cases but when dealing with principles that can be argued about rather than justifications based on "wants" and "feelings", things need to be made clear cut. Otherwise no debate can be happen, if we cant agree on te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:47 PM |
| 3 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:26 PM |
| 4 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?You can have long term sex that fulfils desire affection and intimacy in a loving relationship without monogamy And exactly because they serve different purposes, why not have both intimate sex with spouse and exciting sex with strangers at the same time in your relationship? Again, this doesnt explain why most people prefer monogamy nor it is justification for the question I asked in the OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:13 PM |
| 3 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Being in a relationship with someone you love makes sex important because sexual intimacy is one key to a healthy, lasting relationship. I understand that, but still I maintain that what you said isnt a justification based on principles You can have this relationship sex you talked about in this quote with your partner and casual sex with strangers at the same time (provided it was an agreement), and this wouldnt contradict what you said. Then my question is, why most people prefer monogamy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:53 PM |
| 10 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Ok, but if casual sex and monogamous sex are two different kinds of sex, the question persist: why dont most people think its ok to have meaningless casual sex with strangers while having monogamous, intimate sex with their partners? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:49 PM |
| 7 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Because a lot of people don't like the idea of their partner having sex with others while they're dating them. They want them wholly to themselves. Why? If sex can be done casually? Why dont they like their partners getting fucked? On the other hand, why do they want they wholly now but not always? Why past sex is ok but current sex isnt? Im not arguing these things Im saying should be the standard, Im arguing that, as far as what you said goes, most people cant justify rationally both casual se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:43 PM |
| 6 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?They're either not the same people Does that mean you think all or even most people that are in monogamous relationships never had casual sex and that people that had casual sex are not or dont want to be in monogamous relationships? Because if thats what you are saying thats simply not true or people who recognize that not all people are alike (and that's it's not their business to impose their personal views on others). No one is talking about imposing anything, I just justification based on p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:39 PM |
| 4 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?I dont think anything you said relates to my OP at all It surely relates to other stuff discussed on PPD, but not my OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:38 PM |
| 7 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Its not a contradiction, but it is not a rational justification based on principles like I asked for in the first paragraph of the OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:35 PM |
| 3 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?You are using an analogy with open relationships x cheating, right? I agree that breaking agreements is wrong, but my OP is not aboit cheating at all Rather, given my OP, I would ask you, why arent open relationships the default? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:33 PM |
| 11 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?I know people do things because they want something now and another thing then But can these people justify it without contradictions, based on principles rather than "I wanted A then, I want B now"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:31 PM |
| 9 | Women of Purple Pill debate. Where do you feel like the current dating climate is right now when it comes to men and women?Everything you said is spot on Also, props for this Women are so mentally fucked from trauma and or not holding themselves to a high standard but then still want men to view them as wholesome and date worthy. Its hard to see a woman admiting this about women in general, and I think this is a crucial thing that make the few good men turn redpilled - if they are all unwholesome and all undateworthy, better to just pump and dump | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 03:21 PM |
| 2 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping men25% of women is not all, true But... that research is just about the last month Combine enough monhs and you will get where my virtually all comes from Also median 6 doesnt disprove my point. Even if most women with 6 or less had casual sex once and the other times with bfs, my point is still true, isnt it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menJust because you have X belief towards something does not mean it's a universal standard everyone else agree with. Your subjective beliefs and the combination of your narrow mindness during that time caused you to get shocked by the fact people are not like you. Yeah but until this day nothing was able to convince me that logically and based on principles, monogamy and casual sex can both make sense. Also the issue was not only "my narrowmindness at the time getting me shocked that the people ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 08:49 AM |
| 2 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping men1 out of 4 women had casual sex in the last month, it used to be 1 in 3 How exactly does that disprove my point? Thats only about the past month and it looks bad enough already. Doesnt tell us anything about how many women never had casual sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 08:34 AM |
| 3 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menWell to be fair Im far from having total peace of mind about my path, otherwise I wouldnt be here I guess I hope you can be happy and find the path that makes the most sense to you regarding balancing principles and reality Yeah that makes sense, people mature. But having a monogamous mindset when everyone is doing casual sex, and then later they mature and want relationships, can leave a feeling of being cheated, that people are having their cake and eating it too while you didnt get anything. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 01:29 AM |
| 8 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menWith which pill do you most align? Women are not solely to blame for this - but women follow along because women are typically very socially conformist. Therefore it doesn’t really seem fair to lay the blame at women’s feet and that women should be pure and resist temptation when women are not raised with this socially or ideologically any more. True. I was only talking about when dealing in practice, its women that hold all the powers to change the rules, and men follow if they want. But yeah w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menIt’s also filled with mentally I’ll men (which is a real problem worth addressing) the problem is when a ton of mentally ill men who feel slighted by rejected or lack of sex come together you get very toxic ideas that form. Thats true specially these days There’s bits of good advice sprinkled in here and there but it’s generally lost between heaps of shit that is ultimately also damaging to men, Thats not true, at least not what the original redpill was about. Now it is a big circle jerk so this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 08:37 PM |
| 7 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menCan I ask in what context you are meeting these women that are all having casual sex? Everywhere: college, charity work, friends and friends of friends And what do you define as “having casual sex”? Sex outside of a LTR. Doesnt matter if ONS or FWB or whatever. Doesnt matter if just once or all the time, to me it was a matter of principle There’s a big difference to me between someone who has tried casual sex once or twice and someone who “is into casual sex”. Not to me, see above. Its like a mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 08:16 PM |
| 14 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menWell I grew up thinking sex was something intimate to be done between two people that like each other Anything other than that was sluttyness. By the time I went "ok I will have casual sex" I saw no point in monogamy, because how can sex be as unimportant as a handshake when it comes to casual sex but as important as being a sacred thing that cnt be done with anyone else when it comes to most relationships, which are monogamous? Also the issue is not seeing women as aliens, on the contrary. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 07:21 PM |
| 19 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menMan I dont know Im in my mid 20s Discovering virtually all girls had casual sex was a shock, as I thought there would be a decent amount of girls that had never done Nope, they are very rare And then I started seeing women as sluts basically, and more and more things about them started making sense through that lens Then I discovered the redpill and I was able to have casual sex fairly easily after applying it So I dont really identify with what you said, and I think you have the wrong idea abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menHigh effort | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 05:43 PM |
| 2 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menYes the general case is true too But misses the point of the discussion until then, its like saying all lives matter after someone say black lives matyer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 05:35 PM |
| 20 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menWell I said that before in other comments, but if you really want to understand where men are coming from you need to understand some things First see this comment I made on this very same thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/wgyw7x/comment/ij2qbqv/ Then see this other comment I made some days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/w8jvxf/comment/ihqfbzq/ Combine both now, its men growing up believing the lies they were taught and then getting (righrfully) … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 05:30 PM |
| 5 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menYour 1st point is true Your 2nd point is mostly true Your 3rd point is not Society, at least reddit and college educetaed society, is too far liberal to believe men and women are different Redpill today is in long measure a rebuttal of just world fallacy feminism, where men are indocrinated to be nice and polite but women fuck the bullies and outspoken guys; where women say they want to be treated just like men and they are equals, but when men do that they end up getting in the so called friend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:58 PM |
| 6 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menOk and what about that has to do with the comment you are responding to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:29 PM |
| 7 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menI would say fame and money arent that important I would say look and attitude (aka game, aka confidence, aka "getting it") are the only two important things really But yeah if a man has an acceptable threshold of looks and aatitude he can shit on women and they keep coming back for more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:28 PM |
| 75 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menContempt has nothing to do with it, plenty of openly mysoginistic men get laid The reason you dont talk about redpill is because women are eugenic, they want a natural, not a loser that learned the path to success | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:16 PM |
| 73 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menAnd yet it works Almost as if women dont use reason to choose which guy they fuck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:07 PM |
| 1 | “Pick better men” is a cop out to not hold men accountableUnironically true, women are the choosers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:12 AM |
| 2 | Chasing women is idiotic and unnecessary.Who said anything about hobbies and friends? All I said is that what the comment above mine described was a shit test What standards do women resent men for having? Those they cant fulfill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 07:22 PM |
| 8 | Chasing women is idiotic and unnecessary.How so? You can do what you would do independently of what other people are doing Why is it necessary because other people do it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 01:36 PM |
| 18 | Chasing women is idiotic and unnecessary.The problem is a lot of women right now are so obsessed with the empowerment mantra that they’ve learned to shame any man who does have standards…even if they secretly find him more attractive for having standards. Shit tests 101 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 01:35 PM |
| 3 | Discussion : Women moving on faster than men.I dont think he meant to say the problems are not real I think he meant to say that she will go thorugh the motions of the relationship and treat her partner ok or even say I love you and stuff like that while secretly all that resentment is bubbling and fermenting inside of her and the view she has of her partner less and less resemble the behavior she shows towards him, maintaining the appearances and using his presence as emotional support while the relationship lasts like a parasite, once sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 04:12 PM |
| 8 | Women are not inherently more shallow then men that idea is idioticPairing ups and sucessful ones = long term stuff The comment you are responding too is talking about casual sex Those are two separate things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 03:08 PM |
| 3 | Discussion : Women moving on faster than men.Damn been there and this is so real but I never saw it with so much clarity as you describe If trp was still a thing this should be sidebar material | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t seem to listen to men here nor care about what they are saying. This is perhaps most evident in their continually responding to every complaint men make about dating by implying they only want sex, when a good number of men here want companionship.Think you can figure out on your own why a woman might be reluctant to be free with her body when she’s dating a man who uses red pill terminology? The last thing I’d do is get wild with a man who uses terminology like n-count and slut. If he’s that judgmental and uptight, better be cautious. Well good for you I guess, but that doesnt change the fact that women like men (like men = let them smash) that act like redpill, even if those men never heard of it Also the word "dating" feels like a slei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 06:01 PM |
| -1 | Women don’t seem to listen to men here nor care about what they are saying. This is perhaps most evident in their continually responding to every complaint men make about dating by implying they only want sex, when a good number of men here want companionship.The belief that a man deserves equal access to a woman’s body simply because another man did is one of the wildest red pill ideas. Men sound like children arguing over which sibling got the best Christmas presents, except you're demanding access to a human fucking being’s body. I mean, women DO give access to their bodies to a portion of men, so thats not too much to ask for, it seems. Men just try to emulate what those men are doing right. Women dont like the idea of a man loving his ex more th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 05:45 PM |
| -1 | Women don’t seem to listen to men here nor care about what they are saying. This is perhaps most evident in their continually responding to every complaint men make about dating by implying they only want sex, when a good number of men here want companionship.The thing is, if he will think less of her for fucking him quickly, he will think even less of her for fucking other people quickly but not him, so that line of thought doesnt make sense and is actually counter productive The bottom line is, if she has done casual sex men will feel cheated if she didnt fucked them fast too. If she has never done casual sex they might wait for years to fuck her and not feel cheated at all. But that means women who have done casual sex have no leverage in this equ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 05:18 PM |
| 6 | When saying women are “promiscuous”, where are you getting that info?Well thats a change of tone from your initial comment, you were talking about how the notion of most women being promiscuous was actually just about some n cel self torture fantasy, and now you arent talking about casual sex at all, you are talking about degrees and money which are things that, if they matter at all, thry matter in a LTR. I fail to see the connection with the original point you made | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 04:50 PM |
| 6 | Women don’t seem to listen to men here nor care about what they are saying. This is perhaps most evident in their continually responding to every complaint men make about dating by implying they only want sex, when a good number of men here want companionship.It seems to me there are two kinds of men here There are the ones that really just want sex And there are the ones who wanted a gf that had never done casual sex, but after realizing most girls have done ONSs or FWBs at least once, they embrace "the Decline" and aim just for casual sex because thats the second best option, since they wont find their pure good wife The first type really just want sex, but I believe most men here are of the second type and those guys would trade all the casual sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t seem to listen to men here nor care about what they are saying. This is perhaps most evident in their continually responding to every complaint men make about dating by implying they only want sex, when a good number of men here want companionship.From what I gathered, most men are ok with not having sex fast and actually waiting weeks or months or even years for sex, PROVIDED the woman in question applies the same stabdard for all men In other words, men here dont just want to fuck fast, what they do want however is to not be the sucker that waits 4 months for a kiss from a girl while a stranger she doesnt even know the name of came inside her ass in the clubs bathroom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 04:30 PM |
| 7 | When saying women are “promiscuous”, where are you getting that info?I mean, are you implying women ARENT having lots of casual sex and that most dont men end up paired with a girl with a higher n than them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 04:15 PM |
| 1 | How Long is Too Long to Wait For Sex?For men at least: Did she make you wait 2 months but fucked a guy raw in the clubs bathroom without knowing his name? Dump her How can I know if she did that? You cant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 11:10 PM |
| 5 | when hope seems lost or when you have problems finding a significant other. love and compassion goes a long wayI disagree with almost everything in this response | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:01 PM |
| 6 | when hope seems lost or when you have problems finding a significant other. love and compassion goes a long wayAgain it's entitlement. Someone ghosting you is a no. But they don't want a no they want to be able to litigate the no. To be angry at the no. It isn't disrespectful. It's just a nonconfrontational "no". Swallow it and move on. It seems like you are filling the gaps here, it can just be a person feeling disrespected and most likely it is. Most people think ghosting os disrespectful, him feeling disrespected is the simplest hypothesis Realistically he'd be upset about anything other than an enthu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 09:26 PM |
| 3 | What would you/ will you teach your daughters ?The moment women start caring about mens sexual promiscuity to half the extent that men care about womens sexual promiscuity, at that moment I will half agree with you Until then, nah | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 05:38 PM |
| 3 | when hope seems lost or when you have problems finding a significant other. love and compassion goes a long wayIf you think the opposition to ghosting comes grom a place of wanting drama I dont know what to tell you. Maybe some times people, specially women from what Ive seen, want drama to end a relationship and "get out on top", but most of the time people just want to be treated with decency. Ghosting is fine if you are just begining to know someone and never went on a date with them, but other than that its disrespectful towards the other person The reward is not implied. Hes literally just saying he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 05:11 PM |
| 4 | when hope seems lost or when you have problems finding a significant other. love and compassion goes a long wayWell to me it seems he expected if not equal treatment at least basic decency, but didnt got it (got used, ghosted etc). It doesnt seem to come from a position of entitlement as much as coming from a position of expecting the bare minimum of another person. Nowhere in his comment a mentality of "reward" appears Thoughtful dates, listening, and proper communication aren't compassion. Yeah, but it seems his dates were giving him even less than that, and you are still criticizing him? Also nothing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:27 PM |
| 6 | when hope seems lost or when you have problems finding a significant other. love and compassion goes a long wayTo me it seems he was compassionate because he wanted to and was predisposed to be that way because he thinks thats the way to treat someone you like, but got screwed over that. When it happened a lot of times, he started being an asshole ans surprisingly girls were more attached to him What makes you think otherwise? Nothing in what he said makes me think he was being malicious with a covert goal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:00 PM |
| 7 | Both Men And Women In "Normal" Society Acknowledge Alpha Fux Beta BuxThe problem is not that it happens "just in some relationships" as you said The problem is: its a fact that there are guys closer to the fuckboy archetype and guys closer to the good hubby archetype, and when the good hubby types live disproportionately more experiences like in OPs post than the fuckboys types, you cant just say "well it doesnt happen that much", that wont match their experience and chances are they will be jaded as time passes, and the thing is, that situation do happen enough … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 07:47 PM |
| 4 | Both Men And Women In "Normal" Society Acknowledge Alpha Fux Beta BuxIm interested What video was that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 04:22 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: Why some of you withhold sex when dating ltr worthy men?So in that situation, when both of you only want to have sex, how can a guy use you for sex? It seems like an impossibility, since you are not being used - by default, you want the very thing he could possibly use you for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 10:24 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: Why some of you withhold sex when dating ltr worthy men?If you didnt like the first guy, then you are in just for the sex and fun right? So how can you also say you would whine for 2 weeks if he used you for sex? Isnt that what you wanted too? Just to have sex, since you didnt like him? It seems you are both using each other for sex and both are fine with it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?Church Chad Nice way to say Jesus | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:49 PM |
| 0 | Women here on PPD recognize the leverage they have in dating but when TRP tells men how to tip the scales back into their favor they shame/shun it.Who said anything about lying and cheating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 02:25 PM |
| 2 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?What DTOLF failed to mention afaik but Unwin states in his book is that these sexual restrictions are mostly strictly followed by a small group in society, often times an elite that rises to power because of that, and once in powerful positions relaxes these restrictions and become decadent. The article you linked talks about working people. Maybe thats something relevant to your discussion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Women give terrible dating advice to men, but men give great dating advice to womenWhat unstablelonelymale said is but instead this other guy gets to use them for sex and all that. And Also it just seems like a big let down if i end up with a partner who im spoiling and treating really well just to know shes been used as a pleasure device for most everyone else. Because it makes me feel like im being taken advantage of by her. As simple as that. In this case, wouldnt you say that it is the woman that is letting herself be seen as an object by her fuckbuddy, but demands unstabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 02:30 PM |
| 7 | Do societies in which both procreational/traditional and recreational sex cultures exist foster sexual inequality?I upvoted your comment Just came here to say that everyone says fuck society until there is no more society to be fucked Then it is the individual that is fucked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/22 02:15 AM |
| 1 | when it comes to the bill, handle it proportional to incomeCant pay for what you eat? Dont eat that then. I find so weird this culture of men paying in a date, or "whoever asks on a date pays" which means the same thing since men do most of the first steps. If you cant even be reliable to afford the consequences of your decisions in regards to what you just chose to eat, how can I trust you to show accountability in a more serious scenario? Either split in half or, preferably, each one pays for what they eat, it is not rocket science | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 08:56 PM |
| 1 | High N count vs low N countSorry for the delay, was afk Unwins masterpiece is called Sex and Culture where the theory I mentioned was explained, but be warned that is is a 1200 page long tome. Aldous Huxley was a fan of his work. He also has a book about what a sexual utopia based on this theory would look like. I dont know if a society of love can function, but the older I get the more I believe things cant be stable for a long time, things tend to change. Maybe a society of love could function for a time but eventually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 03:37 AM |
| 2 | High N count vs low N countYeah, memories are not strong, that is why I made the argument about "the body" keeping he score as they say, but even that is very argueable at best It is unnatural for us to care, but humans are pretty much unnatural by the same standards. And natural doest equal good, it is always good to remember. Virginity and n count and stuff roughly correlates with the dates of the first developed civilizations like Sumer and stuff, and there is a case to be made that monogamy and chastity are useful in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 07:46 PM |
| 2 | High N count vs low N countOk I can understand now. I dont agree but believing what you do is probably better for the mental health than to obsess with virginity and n count, at least in todays society. But as someone who do value virginity and chastity I believe I can give an insight into my mindset too For one thing, they arent tangible in a physical sense in the observable wotld, but on the other hand these experiences do exist in memories, so in a way they are stored in the brain and exist in a physical sense, they ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 06:54 PM |
| 2 | High N count vs low N countI sincerely want to know what you mean by "I dont believe in N count nor do I believe in virginity" I mean they obviously exist, right? You can count how many people you had sex with and you might have different definitions of virginity but you have some common ones (having penetrative sex or having any sexual act) and even any other definition that fits is still just a narrow set of all the possible definitions, I mean there are standards to what qualify as a definition of virginity (they have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 06:23 PM |
| 1 | If you are a man who doesn’t have long term goals or passionate about something, you can’t expect women to be attracted to you.If by "attracted to you" you mean they want a relationship, yeah that is kind of true, you will have a hard time getting and keeping a relationship if you dont make plans for the future If by "attracted to you" you mean they will want to fuck your bones out with gusto, being passionate or having goals has no influence except in special cases (and even then, "wow, he is an award winning mountain climber" is better than "wow, he knows everything and is very passionate about WOW lore") In other wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 05:37 PM |
| 2 | The reason women appear like vapid whores is due to statistics, most women are decent just like men.Am I getting this wrong or are you only counting the relationships these women had? Average relationship duration/number of people these women dated doesnt factor hookups, FWBs, threesomes and all the other stuff that were never a relationship to begin with. it just takes into account how many men these women "seriously" dated. So the number of men should be a lot higher. Also do you assume they have dated without rest? Most people spend some time single, so the numbers should be a little lower … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/22 04:57 PM |
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