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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:20 AM
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Happy New Year!EmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:00 AM
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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:25 AM
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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:32 AM
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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 10:07 PM
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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:04 PM
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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 10:54 PM
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CMVEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:02 AM
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Question for RedPillEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:21 AM
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CMVEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 03:43 AM
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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:24 PM
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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:27 AM
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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 09:57 PM
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DiscussionEmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:42 AM
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EmpressofMars/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:03 AM
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It just has to tell both partners to listen to each other and what they find attractive and act and compromise accordingly. Both partners do the same and compromise and act accordingly. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 05:30 PM
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Why don't you just admit that you hate the idea of autists getting laid you ableist shitlord. Well that's a new one. And I don't care if those with autism get to bone or what. I completely understand if one has no choice but to categorize and systemize social interactions if they have autism or similar difficulties with picking up on social cues. The important thing for me is that those categories and systems aren't based entirely on falsehoods (AWALT) or harmful stereotypes (the hatred of singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 11:47 PM
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Actually it's popularity among frat bros is kinda a testament to its more juvenile nature IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:15 PM
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Numero uno, don't necessarily hate it. Just grosses me out. It's not so much of a fiery rage as much as it is a visceral "NOPE" reaction. Dos, it's literally reducing individuals to caricatures and stereotypes based on things like their appearance (HBblahblah, SMVblahblah) their promiscuity (body counts etc) and their success of the opposite sex (alpha beta gamma omega epsilon whateverthefuck). And then using this one neat trick (TM) or excellent strategy to "beat the level" and achieve their go…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:13 PM
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Mmmkay the jist of it is taking another human being and reducing them from a fully developed person with thoughts, feelings, etc into either a caricature of what they believe that person or group of people is like OR taking a person and categorizing them via traits such as physical appearance, activities, etc and attaching some sort of (usually negative) connotation. This is what I've found some RP folks tend to do, reducing people to "betas" or "incels" or "HBwhatevers" or "SMV level blah blah …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:05 PM
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Even the less socially awkward and even quite articulate have fallen victim to the concept that videogame-ifying their life and depersonalizing those around them will bring them le vaginé.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 03:01 AM
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One big one I see in some of the more extreme factions is that they want to secure basically young, attractive, virgin or low previous sexual partner count women to be their submissive, doting brides/long term gfs/sometimes "plates" (brb just threw up in my mouth a bit). This is coming from the same dudes who want access to vagina and lots of vagina and specifically vaginas and other orifices attached to young, attractive women. Preferably multiple "plates" (eugh) at once or in quick succession.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:57 AM
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One side thinks by classifying and categorizing and using "~strategies~" and "~lingo~" and general depersonalization and dehumanization of their peers and especially the objects of their base sexual desires they can achieve the SEXccess they DESERVE, GOD DAMMIT!!!! The other side thinks thats nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:51 AM
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Because many of it's denizens are similarly socially awkward with noxious attitudes, with a heaping helping of misanthropy and misogyny. Also they have a strange obsession of classifying people a la a videogame ("alphas" "betas" "incels" "game" "dread" "HBwhatever") in a rather juvenile manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:47 AM
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Because TBP was literally created for TRP. Just like subs like niceguys or tumblrinaction or justneckbeardthings exist concerning those specific topics. It's always TRP because TRP was the reason for its inception. Without TRP there is no TBP. This philosopher sums it up nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:07 AM
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There is something about RP that gets under BP skin, something specific and unique to RP that bothers BPs in general. I think that thing is a combination of an inflated sense of self worth, an amusing hivemind fueled by anger and entitlement, and general dumbfuckery seen in many choice posts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:53 AM
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Relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 11:25 PM
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No shit dude. Thats how hormones do. Androgens vs estrogens, blah blah blah. Still, your original wording was funny. Would have been better to just say "Regulation of hormone-mimicking compounds and endocrine disrupting chemicals in the environment" since phthalates and similar shit are already doing some pretty serious harm to both humans and animal populations. See also tiny dicked alligators and tons of birth and reproductive abnormalities in many species. Also, "dystopian regulation," really…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 09:09 PM
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I mean, in my humble pill popping ass' opinion TBP isn't really concerned with possibility or...anything really. TBP exists to counter TRP and is mainly a site to joke about/parody redpillers. Its for people to laugh at "le top alfalfas who are ultramacho" or to groan/cringe/get angry at some particular choice bit of nonsense. Literally on the front page of the sub is a thread titles "I am Chad Thundercuck AMA" and further down "Edgelords Gonna Edge." You're doing an apples-to-oranges style deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:50 PM
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That special blend of arrogance and crazy comes in all forms my dude, regardless of sex, gender, orientation, etc. I have seen many a "Nice Girl TM" shocked and appalled that no, he is not going to leave his girlfriend for you or no, he doesn't really want to date you or fuck you. Perish the thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:42 PM
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Bruh how does one believe in or advocate for "testosterone"? Forreal. It's just a hormone. X Files theme
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:38 PM
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The sound of his voice. It's SUPER weird I know but some people's voices I just can't stand. For example, one time I met this guy (introduced through mutual friends) and he was super cute... until he opened his mouth. High pitched, nails on a chalkboard, grating and just completely unpleasant. I nope'd away SO FAST. Also the obvious no racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/bigoted shit; also no right-wingers or even slightly right wingers under any circumstances ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:09 AM
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I mean from a biological perspective it makes sense. For the majority of human history birthing and rearing the next generation has been arguably THE top priority, cuz that's how biology do in terms of ensuring a species' evolution and survival. I mean lets be real, making mini humans is HARD. The act itself is pretty easy but the incubation period is a nightmare, not to mention the birth itself. So a woman able to successfully incubate and birth a genetic blend of her and a male, and raise said…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 04:49 AM
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I have thick skin, no worries. I just don't approve of hate groups of any kind and was surprised to stumble upon one by chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 03:07 AM
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Ohhhhh. See the thing is, I had suspected that but (as I said in an earlier comment) it appears some of the posters/members/denizens of said sub are pretty serious, given their post history
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 02:23 AM
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I realize that dude. I may be a punk ass millennial but I'm not THAT stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 01:19 AM
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Shit did I just become Dr. Frankenstein
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 03:34 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:40 PM
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Perhaps the better term is "irrational" then, rather than "baseless." Sorry, articulating my thoughts is a tad difficult occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:33 PM
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This isn't dislike. This is HATE, it even says so in the damn title. Trying to get to the bottom of why that hate exists and help those who are hating is in my view a good cause, and helps create dialogue and bring the conversation from baseless, emotional hatred to rational conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:25 PM
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If I was truly indoctrinated I wouldn't even be here, I wouldn't bother to question my beliefs and investigate the beliefs of others. Key word here is BELIEFS, not baseless hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:21 PM
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It's not repulsion as much as it is surprise. It doesn't keep me up at night it's just surprising to see such a blatant display of hatred by chance. Most acts of hate get some news coverage and are sensationalized. It's just surprising to stumble upon a sect in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:56 PM
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I respect all lifestyle choices unless that lifestyle choice involves hating a group over something they cannot change. I do not condone needless hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:51 PM
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Hey, hate only begets more hate. We can't stoop to their level IMO. You're free to do as you please though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:50 PM
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Looking through the post history there does seem to be an aura of sadness and lashing out in anger. I hope he gets help and finds peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:45 PM
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It is sad. That hatred becomes internalized, reflected outward, or both. We really need to invest in mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:43 PM
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Those are rather strong words, and in my view a baseless accusation against my character and my ability to think critically. The whole reason I'm here is to debate and listen to new ideas from those who are different from me. I am open to new ideas and viewpoints, I am not open to unapologetic hatred of a group over something they cannot control such as their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:43 PM
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Oh the "Kill All Men" thing shocked me most definitely. I couldn't believe how women who professed to be feminists and fighting for equality were advocating for violence against men, men who are supposed to be our partners, allies, team members and friends. The only thing is the last instance I personally saw of that was a while ago (probably close to a year) so time has dulled the shock a bit. This instance is new and fresh and just as outrageous and the "Kill All Men" thing was when it first s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:41 PM
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I suppose you're right. Still, it's kinda sad to see these forgotten echo chambers of hatred. Makes me kinda feel sorry for those who participate in them, that they have so much negativity and sadness in their life the only way they can cope is to blindly hate others. That or they've been so thoroughly indoctrinated the hate has become ingrained in them, and they're too lazy to do some research.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:09 PM
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You're right, I was just interested on how the sub would weigh in on this sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:06 PM
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I just sort of wish all these fucknuts would do some introspection and go to therapy instead of being so damn hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:05 PM
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I fully realize these people are moonbats (lol) and should be taken with a ton of salt. It's just not something I encounter often and I wanted to share it with all your lovely faces so you could weigh in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:02 PM
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I see misandry. But it's often presented in a joking manner "lol male tears" style. To see straight up "KILL ALL MEN" bullshit though isn't something I see often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:00 PM
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Because god forbid we mix up our sexism and our racism. Segregated hate here only!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:59 PM
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Yeah but they try to justify it with (now proven false) "studies" and "statistics" and stuff. This sub in question is just straight hate, no masking it, no trying to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:57 PM
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I obviously know that's the case. The thing is most people I encounter aren't so up-front about it. They try to hide it and/or justify it with manipulated statistics, lies and general bullshit. This is just straight-up hate which I'm not so used to seeing. I don't actively go seeking this stuff out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:57 PM
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I realize that, I just discovered it today. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been deleted as part of reddit's anti-hate-sub policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:42 PM
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I can definitely see how most of the comments and stuff are overinflated, comical parodies. But there are a few people on there who, judging by their post history, etc. are dead serious. That's what surprised me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:41 PM
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I guess I'm just kinda in shock that people can actually vehemently hate someone so much just because of their gender. Like I've always realized misogyny is a thing, but I usually think of it more as a relic from the past, a stain we're scrubbing through progress and reform. To see it so embraced in the 21st century was kinda a shock for me. See, some misogynists try to hide their hate due to fear of rightful retribution. This shit is just out in the open, unapologetic, hence my shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:40 PM
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I wasn't talking about the number of people so much as there are actual people who think like this. Like, just blindly hate someone because of their gender. It's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:37 PM
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Of course. I feel sympathy towards anyone who committed suicide, or is struggling with suicidal thoughts. It's not a pretty place. When I make friends, I don't really care much about looks or social hierarchy or blah blah blah. Some may call bullshit on that but it's the truth. I can get along well with an "~omega~" as much as I can with an "~alpha~" or "~beta~" as long as we can have courteous, meaningful conversations and share at least a couple interests. Same being said, if you're a jerk or …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:36 PM
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I'm hoping it can turn out at least semi-ok, otherwise the aftermath of catching a husband is gonna suck, ya dig?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:31 PM
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FIRST! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53tdy3hCxMc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:26 PM
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Thread for jokes you say??? REBELLION!!!!!! Gonna talk about serious shit instead like this article on RoK
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 08:54 PM
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TBH as a lady, I'd see the unreasonable niceness as creepy, a kind of slavish devotion. Buying a girl coffee and delivering it to her every morning? Obsessive much? So yeah, I'd say this goes not just for sexual attractiveness but just generally wanting to be around a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 09:59 PM
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Pssssst. Feminist here. I don't support the draft (or war at all) but I think if we MUST have a draft, we need to include all able bodied persons in that, regardless of gender. I mean, just from a practical standpoint it widens our pool of draftees by quite a bit. If someone with a dick can fight and die in a war, so can someone with a uterus. If you want true equality, in my view you have to take the disadvantages with the advantages. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 09:51 PM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 09:18 PM
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Nah, I just have better things to do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 01:39 PM
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Zero! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:14 AM
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I think legalized and safer prostitution would be good for all parties involved. Those seeking the prostitutes would find pleasure and have a positive experience, and if prostitution is made legal and monitored the prostitutes would be able to practice their trade in peace with a lower risk of endangering themselves. I also think doctors and security guards should be at each sex house/brothel to ensure the safety and health of everyone involved, that patrons should have to use protection, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:43 PM
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I'd classify rape as intercourse, but not sex. Intercourse is the physical sexual act(s) in question. Sex is the act(s) of intercourse followed by continuous enthusiastic consent. This consent does not exist in situations of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 04:51 AM
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Of course I'd voluntarily support my child. Hell I'd voluntarily support the child even if it wasn't "mine." I'll adopt as many kids as I can care for responsibly and can devote enough personal attention and nurturing to. All children deserve love, financial security, food, clothing, shelter, education, happiness and protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 04:46 AM
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Lady purple leaning heavily blue (indigo?) here. Might try to befriend or get acquainted with a TRPer if they were mild or willing to question their beliefs. Would NOT EVER under any circumstances get involved romantically or otherwise with a TRPer no matter how mild.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 04:31 AM
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I'd be willing to give it a shot at least! It may not work out in the long run though. It's unfortunately but ultimately it's a condition the other person has little to no control over, so I'd be willing to try to work together with them as well as other medical professionals (if applicable) to make it work:
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 03:39 PM
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Well physical ownership and the ownership you gave an example of are pretty different IMO. For physical ownership I could own a car, a house, a plant, even a pet. But you can't really own people anymore, at least without engaging in highly illegal behaviors or going to a very poor under developed nation. The ownership you describe is more metaphorical, "owning up" to issues, "taking responsibility" if you will. TBH the only view I can see someone taking this sort of responsibility for someone in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 04:05 AM
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I mean, in my eyes anyone/anything that is self-aware and conscious or was once self aware and conscious (like a person in a coma) is a person and not a good or object. I guess one could argue that people are objects in the sense that everything tangible is an object, which is true, but I'd still put humans in a category separate from say rocks and furniture. In terms of people being goods, unless you're talking about slavery (which is largely illegal throughout the world and reprehensible in mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 03:58 AM
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Dude, you literally pulled a mini Wolf of Wall Street. Nice. Make sure to get tested for STDs and don't ride the coke train too hard though. Tbh, I think most of the alpha/beta/incel stuff is bullshit but it sounds like this experience helped you gain a lot of confidence and get rid of your insecurities, and since all parties (you, prostitutes, friends, etc) were consenting, kudos to you! Also you sound rich tbh (flying to Hong Kong??? Buying coke and hookers??? Dude that costs some serious doug…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 02:24 AM
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I would consider most physically/congenitally disabled partners as viable potential partners. The only reservation I would have is since I date with only the intention of marriage (no flings/casual stuff) I'm not sure I would be able to handle the medical bills and stress associated with being a caretaker. I would consider some with disabilities related to psychological issues. I would not consider someone with mental disabilities unless the disability or impairment was very slight (like dyslexi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 02:19 AM
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In short, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 02:13 AM
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In that case could you elaborate? By "ownership" do you mean like old time slavery-esque ownership or like a BDSM consensual master-slave deal or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 02:12 AM
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177! I'm a degenerate! My mom will be so proud. Lol the vast majority of it was not being straight and my heavy socialist and slight communist leanings...looks like I'm hell bound Russian Red boys and girls! TBH though the test came off as super super homophobic/transphobic with just a dash of white nationalism. Oh well, it was fun
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 02:11 AM
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I hope you're trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 01:24 AM
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But we're not talking about goods or an object or something like that, we're talking about a person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 01:06 AM
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Of course! Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:09 AM
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I think it's mainly due to similarities in level of education. Whereas a job as a garbageman requires only a high school diploma or GED, a position as a doctor requires a bachelors degree, usually a graduate degree and then years of med school and residency. In addition, it's unlikely a garbageman and a female doctor would interact at all. The most likely scenarios I can see is 1. Brief 1-2 minute conversations (if that) that happen while he's collecting her garbage, 2. Him being in an accident …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 01:51 AM
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No wtf why is someone having sex or not automatically conflated with self worth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 10:54 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 03:11 PM
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I gathered that but I don't know what it is he's finding ironic. Then again I haven't slept in two days so my cognitive abilities aren't exactly in tiptop shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:01 PM
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I'm a "meh" Christian. I'm in it for the morals and the whole Jesus thing is cool and all, but I know to take it with a pound of salt. What I meant in my post was I couldn't stand someone who hates members of another religion (Islam for example) or hates members of ALL religions. I don't give a fuck what your religious beliefs are but when you hate on people for their religion it doesn't do anyone any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:01 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:23 PM
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For abuse? Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:15 AM
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Saying something you regret in an argument isn't abuse, it's just a garden variety natural human fuckup. Repeatedly and regularly disparaging someone, calling them names, bullying them, etc is emotional abuse. Key words are repeatedly and regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:56 AM
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Violence. Cruelty. Racism. Sexism. Homophobia/transphobia. Intolerant of a/all religions. Poor hygiene. No morals. 99% of criminal activity. Manipulation/frequent anger. Constantly rude/disparaging. Smoking. Alcoholism/addiction. Rude to waiters/waitresses/salespeople. Mental instability. Being condescending/sense of self righteousness. Refusal to seek help for issues. Constant victimhood (sometimes is alright but refusing to seek help for such feelings isn't reasonable). Being a conservative. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:19 AM
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I'd dump him in a heartbeat. Lurker is a slippery slope sometimes. I know that just sounds paranoid but I would never be able to trust him again after such an incident, and you can't build a good relationship without trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:01 AM
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? No entiendo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:34 PM
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Are you just here for fun? Yep. Are you here because you're really fucking angry and pissed off? Do you want some validation of your suffering or experience, to know that either people care, or that your experience is not unprecedented and therefore you're not alone? LOL nope. Do you feel oppressed and victimised? Eh, slightly at times, but I don't have it nearly as bad as some women. Do you want to mock people who think they're oppressed when in your opinion they're privileged and entitled? Moc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 03:30 AM
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Basically. Just like people use religion, etc. as a reason to act like asses.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 01:04 PM
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Completely delusional. If people like that really exist it's kinda sad because he's so close to just being a decent human but then he goes all protective and desperate and shit and just misses the mark trying to get some nookie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:21 PM
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Gimme your lunch money, weenie! Nah but seriously, people are just shitty. And when shitty people get called on their bullshit, they'll often say/do anything to get outta it and save their skin ("haha it was just a prank bro" style). Sometimes what they choose to hide behind as their "defense" is feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:20 PM
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Why are people so afraid of white people becoming a minority? It's not like minorities have ever been treated badly! Oh wait.... LOL I'm as white as they come and I still don't understand this ridiculous (and arguably racist) fear of white people no longer being in the majority in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 09:01 PM
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Thank you for saying it so I didn't have to haha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 08:59 PM
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Well in the above post I've linked some great resources which you can use to learn more and educate yourself, should you feel so inclined :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 08:11 PM
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You mean filmmakers like the Guillermo Del Toro and artists like Frida Kahlo? Diplomats and political leaders like Indira Gandhi, Kublai Khan, and Ban Ki-moon? Mathematicians like Srinivasa Ramanujan and Shakuntala Devi? physicists like Hideki Yukawa and Abdus Salam? Human rights activists like Tawakkol Karman, Malala Yousafzai, Nelson Mandela, and Aung San Suu Kyi? Chemists like Tu Youyou? Biologists like Aziz Sancar? Agronomists like Gebisa Ejeta? Authors like Chinua Achebe? Religious leaders …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 08:09 PM
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It's fine if you mess things up, a want to learn shows that you inherently respect these people who do not conform to what you have been taught, and this want to learn is infinitely better than willful ignorance. Technically, the whole dick = man, vagina = woman is usually sufficient for around 98% percent of people you encounter. However, framing it as dick = usually male and vagina = usually female is a much better proposition as it includes intersex people with ambiguous genitalia and makes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:38 PM
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I don't see much of a problem with 1 and 2, even though they ring more as statements of opinion than hard facts. 3 and 4 however may come off as a little disingenuous as both statements can (and in most cases are) true of men as well. IMO rephrasing them to be gender neutral is good. Criticize people as much as you want man, without criticism no one ever improves. Just make sure your criticisms are valid and in good faith. Quick note on looks though: If it's not something someone can fix in 5 mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:23 PM
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When you give SMP control entirely to women who pick who has the sexiest 6 pack, the population gets dumber. Not necessarily. The idea that athletes and fitness junkies are stupid is more of a trope from TV shows and movies targeted at preteens than a reflection of reality IMO. In fact, one could argue that athletes and the like are more intelligent than the average joe due to the quick thinking, strategic thinking and spatial reasoning skills sports has caused them to develop. Athletes can cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:17 PM
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True, but that is no longer the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 04:23 PM
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You're conflating biological sex with gender. A person with XY chromosomes, who is biologically male, isn't necessarily a man. Likewise a person with XX chromosomes is biologically female, but isn't necessarily a woman. Same goes for intersex individuals and individuals with disorders such as Klinefelter's syndrome who have a trisomy (aka 3 sex chromosomes). Biological sex is based on chromosomes. Gender is socialized and varies from individual to individual based on how they choose to present. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 02:23 AM
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Wadjda's actually been on my watch list for a while now I just haven't gotten around to it. And I agree that due process should definitely be enforced to the fullest extent on college campuses (that whole innocent until proven guilty thing still applies). The only problems is that rape and sexual assault is such a heinous crime it often gets sensationalized making a fair trial difficult, and rape is also a difficult crime to prove, especially with the huge backlog of rape kits in hospitals acros…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 08:52 PM
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The vast majority of TERFs are more background noise than anything, but a few semi-prominent feminist authors have TERF positions giving them a little more attention. They're kinda like the Westboro Baptist Church of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 11:21 AM
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Feminist here, hello! There are a couple of things I'd love to see happen to restore the credibility of the feminist movement. Get rid of the TERFs. TERFs for those who don't know are "trans-exclusive radical feminists," AKA they think trans women aren't "real women" which is some bullshit and it's needlessly excluding women. If you wanna be a feminist you gotta have intersectional feminist views, and include demographics that aren't like you or are traditionally underserved. Focus on issues fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 04:55 AM
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I mean I don't think it's offensive so much as it's often portrayed as an absolute, which just isn't accurate. Most people are gonna wanna have sex with people. Preferably their partners will have the right mix of personality and genetic makeup to get their bits all hot and bothered. So yeah, if given the opportunity for casual sex with a hot person, most people will say yes. Some won't due to personal preference, a dislike of casual sex, blah blah, but a good portion will say yes. It's just how…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:43 AM
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Oh I would rather be valued for what I put on the table in a heartbeat. If someone's only gonna value me because of my sex bits they can GTFO. I'm a kinda ok person most of the time and I'm doing some pretty cool shit (like research on RNA degradation in early Earth environments to be applied to the origin of life and exobiology). I'd much rather be valued for stuff like that than for the fact I could (if I felt so inclined) push a tiny screaming human out of a hole normally the size of a quarte…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:34 AM
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I mean, if I'm single, I'm not gonna be sexin it up with anyone. I would have sex, however, with approximately 1.135135e-10% of the 7.4 billion humans on Earth. AKA, one person, the person I marry. Attractive enough to ask out? Well if I don't know them it's 0%, I'd be too afraid to ask (approaching dudes, especially stranger dudes, is risky and kinda terrifying). If I KNEW them, like as a friend or acquaintance, maybe 5%, probably less. I don't like approaching people for stuff like that. If as…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:28 AM
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F, purple leanin blue Meh, average. More extroverted some days, more introverted other days. Depends. I'd say 80% of my friends are also female. Of my friends? A grand total of 0%
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:21 AM
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Touché, drunkard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 12:01 AM
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I am human yknow
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:55 PM
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Hmmm then maybe I saw it somewhere else. Idk, it was several months ago and my memory isn't photographic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:43 AM
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Heard that TRP was a thing. Looked it up. Horror/morbid curiosity ensues. Found this sub on the sidebar as related. Been here ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:32 AM
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K but u kinda missed the point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:15 AM
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That pissed me off SO MUCH. I used to admire her a lot but now it's obvious she's been bought out. The dismissal of Bernie supporters as "Bernie Bros" actually happened before in 2008 with the Clinton camp spinning the narrative of the "Obama boy." Nevermind that 84% of young women support Senator Sanders or anything...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:31 AM
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It's fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:17 AM
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Yes, belletaco. Join me in the legion of responding to nonsense with pet names and terms of endearment. Grow strong in your niceness. This is literally my favorite approach to take I'm so glad others feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:12 AM
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Hello friend it appears you have mentioned me again and I would like to say that I do not get the "tingles" you speak of. Please consider amending your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:08 AM
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I'm 2edgy4u m8
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:52 PM
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Yes of course hello!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:52 PM
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Holy shit is 2008 all over again
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:33 PM
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Then no cake for me! Time to go to the amusement park or marathon Star Wars movies then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:08 PM
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Yeah but cake is also super rad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:03 PM
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I feel like some people like sushi more than others. And then I go eat pizza or bake a chocolate cake to have instead and carry on with my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:59 PM
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Nah man no harm done, I just like to be tagged in things concerning me so I can jump in and defend myself :P I'm pretty damn blue anyway, the only reason I'm purple is because I like to give TRP and related groups the benefit of the doubt and examine their arguments and evidence as objectively as I can instead of just decrying them outright. You're not losing me to the blue vortex dude, no worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:51 PM
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I do not see how I have shamed anyone? I fail to see how I have done this. Please point out if/how I have done this so I may rectify it immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:41 PM
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In my defense I also linked a video of adorable kittens at one point when someone got pissed about the puppies. That did not go over well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:39 PM
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Hello friend I was not trying to conduct myself well. I was at first but one can only be insulted and told one's opinion is wrong so many times before cutting one's losses and instead adopting a humorous tone. Sleep deprivation stress and the internet do not mix well with volatile topics like gender relations. Even puppies cannot fix some conundrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:38 PM
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Hello friend I was trying to be silly due to frustration yes it was not a wise plan but it is a plan I undertook anyway. I got to the point where I was just like "FUCK IT" since nobody was listening to me try to explain my opinion and instead kept trying to tell me my opinion is wrong. Hence puppies and ridiculousness in my sleep-deprived culmination of bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:36 PM
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Hello friend this is OP here I was not participating in the hashtagging of the first world problems I was simply stating my opinion that sex is not the be all and end all to life and this opinion was apparently bad in the eyes of the sub hence anger hence downvoting hence puppies to alleviate negativity. Puppies are cute and soft and make people happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:35 PM
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Hello friends the lol puppies bullshit was a result of it being past 2 AM and me running out of fucks to give and encountering lots of downvoting and negativity due to my stating my opinion that sex is not the be all and end all to existence. People were upset, hence the downvoting. Puppies make people not upset. The logic is flawless when it's 2 AM and you havent slept in 3 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:33 PM
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Hello yes just calling again to confirm I am indeed one person. And I did apologize. And I did not try to be rude and if I was rude it was not my intention and/or I apologized. Just confirming this all for the spectators since this thread is partially to do with me. Carry on friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:31 PM
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Hello friend yes it is I the lady person behind the computer. I confirm I am not representative of all the lady persons. I am not even representative of the majority of lady persons. If I was rude at any point in my commentary it was unintentional, and I actually apologized when someone pointed out I had been rude. I just reached a point where I threw caution, formalities, etc to the wind because you get to a point where you're so frustrated stating the same couple of things that the situation b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:29 PM
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U can tag me u know Xem. I like to get in on this ish too ya feel me? FOR THE RECORD, I was speaking about my own personal experiences in the quoted portion above. I wasn't "acting like this to most lonely men" or whatthefuckever, I was talkin about my own personal views and feelings that I realize are most likely unique to my person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:25 PM
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Oh boy more threads about me hi! Hello friends!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:22 PM
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Whoopsie, I was typing that reply on mobile standing on a bus and autocorrect did it's job incorrectly. I meant to say the loveydovey stuff is acts of intimacy, not acts on intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:20 PM
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Actually if you read what I wrote it's "Sex: Its a thing that most people like to do and feel strongly about but I don't believe it's the be all and end all to existence." It even says so in the damn title.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:10 PM
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I never said others were wrong friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:03 PM
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Idk hedonism_bot_69 (lol). I'd just like to think that we can think about other stuff too. Most of the time people seem pretty weirdly fixated on sex. I'd like to think with the self awareness and aptitude for higher cognition we show, we can overcome some of that. But oftentimes that strangely isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:39 PM
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Lol dude I don't have a sexual drive that I can tell. You can't dismiss something that doesn't exist hence no "MGTOW" or whatever the youngins are callin it these days
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:31 PM
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Lol believe it or not I have better things to do with my time than troll on debate subs. I literally just don't give a shit about sex. Like, I have better things to do. I don't give a fuck if you think it "comes easily" to me or nah I could care less either way. I just have more fun and interesting pastimes to pursue and I don't see what all the fuss is about. Also I fuckin love sushi
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:29 PM
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I'd actually argue that the snuggling, loveydovey stuff is actually acts on intimacy and that these acts are just as important if not more important than sex. But that's just my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:27 PM
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Nah. No "~MGTOW~" shit here. More like, "I want to do stuff that interests me and would serve me well"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:38 PM
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LMAO ok been doing that for 18+ years already and I feel fine. I'll just keep on keepin on then
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:38 PM
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LMAO you'd be surprised dude. I just don't give a fuck. I've been propositioned many a time, I just have better, more interesting things to do than have someone stick their dick in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:36 PM
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I mean, I certainly don't feel as though I'm starving. Been doing fine without sex, am currently fine without it, will probably continue to do fine without it for the foreseeable future. That being said, I realize this is just the perspective of one organism out of billions. Others feel differently, I realize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:30 PM
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I mean I also wouldn't be here if it wasn't for significant advancement in fertility treatments and drugs encouraging conception and blastocyst implantment but whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:24 PM
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What did I say that you claim is dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:33 AM
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I posted it because you seem upset and puppies make most people happy. And I have not made anything up to my knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:30 AM
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Neither am I. Puppies are just cute and will make you smile. Kittens also make people smile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1c0a4fo1zo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:29 AM
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What I'm saying is people treat sex as though it is essential to survival, when it is not. Many people will not be happy without it, yes. But they will not die without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:28 AM
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I refuse to participate in pornography. There are thousands of women who do, however, and they are simply clicks away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:19 AM
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That is a distressing view to hold. Please watch this video of adorable puppies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:18 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:16 AM
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Yes but Maslow's hierarchy also has stuff that's arguably not necessary for survival such as enlightenment, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:16 AM
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These puppies are not about sex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:15 AM
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The queen is dead, long live puppies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:15 AM
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Have some puppies friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:15 AM
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I have done nothing. I wish I could want sex tbh. Your reply smarts of sarcasm. Have some puppies and relieve yourself of negative emotion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:13 AM
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You are sad now, and are shutting down. Please accept this video of cute puppies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:12 AM
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These "idiots" I have encountered many times throughout my short lifespan. Have some puppies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:12 AM
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It appears my reply has displeased you. Please watch this video of puppies and feel better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:11 AM
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If this displeases you have some puppies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:10 AM
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I apologize for my inability to wave a magic wand and have the pussy fairy visit you. Have some puppies instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:10 AM
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I am sorry if this displeases you, I do not control the passage of time. Please have some puppies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:09 AM
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People have downvoted me therefore I realize this has made you sad. Here are puppies to make you better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amtuB-2wGeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:09 AM
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I mean, in that vein I'm not even sure why the red pill exists at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:02 AM
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I mean I guess people could think of it as some bigass meaningful thing. But logically it's just release of hormone and people squishin their bits together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:59 AM
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Bruh that shit is expensive, plus there are tons of complications.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:56 AM
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Mmmmmkay but intimacy =/= sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:54 AM
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I'm saying that sex is not life's main pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:54 AM
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Or just nobody wants to sleep with you. That's not a reason in my view to label yourself as a failure or something "wrong."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:53 AM
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I mean, with our current levels of technology sex isn't necessary for the survival of the species anymore. Take a sample from a sperm bank, combine it with an egg via IVF, implant the fertilized egg(s) into a woman to carry the fetus to term. Now would most people be opposed to that? Probably. But we don't NEED sex for the survival of the species anymore. Just a supply of viable healthy women to supply uteri and eggs and viable healthy men to supply sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:51 AM
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I mean, I'm of the opinion that trust and mutual respect is the basis of a romantic relationship but whatever floats your boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:49 AM
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Well the people downvoting me certainly don't think it's that profound LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:48 AM
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MUCH more sense thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:48 AM
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Dude that's kinda melodramatic. Labeling yourself an "evolutionary failure" because you can't get laid? Dramaaaaaa
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:47 AM
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Fine then if we continue the garden analogy, I continue to say "FUCK YOU SECRET GARDEN" then go on my way. I'll do tons of super fucking awesome shit like explore the oceans or run a rescue for dogs or travel the world or invent something or do research (which I'm already doing and it's bomb af) or GO TO SPACE HOLY SHIT I WANNA GO TO SPACE SO BAD LMAO. Fuck u garden I got cool stuff to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:45 AM
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Workplaces should be staffed by those most competent for the job(s) at hand. Workplaces should be filled with intelligent, experienced, competent people that work well together. The gender of the worker bees is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:43 AM
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You can have intimacy without sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:41 AM
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Technically if we're gonna jump to conclusions like you just did, people don't need freedom to live. All hail our robot overlords, the human race shall become slaves to the machines. Freedom is pretty goddamn important.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:40 AM
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So are you saying that no women ever want to have sex really bad ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:37 AM
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Not necessarily, no. Most believe that you can certainly have sex without love and affection. No strings attached, one night stands, friends with benefits, blah blah blah. The thing is though, when people think of the reverse of that, love and affection without sex, barring family/friendship "love" they can't wrap their heads around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:37 AM
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Well since I can't wave a goddamn magic wand and have the pussy fairy visit you this is the best I can fucking do alright
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:35 AM
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That's...a bit extreme. A bit of a leap there, I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:34 AM
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I'm not trying to be disrespectful at all and I apologize that that's how I came across to you. I just feel/felt honestly concerned. I don't see how someone could value something so greatly to feel as though life without it isn't worth living. The only thing I have to compare it to is an addiction, though I l know this isn't the case. I know to want sex is natural. I know to have libido is natural. I know to have a moderately hight to very high libido is often commonplace. I am not at all dispar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:33 AM
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Dude I realize I'm the abnormal one in this respect, if I wasn't this wouldn't even be a discussion we'd be having at all as we'd be focusing on other stuff. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:28 AM
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I mean if we're talking about me here at some point I'd just be like "FUCK U SECRET GARDEN" and go to the gardening store and hire a team of landscapers and build my own goddamn garden and it'll be fucking awesome with wifi and a water slide and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:27 AM
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Whoopies, thought you had a penis. Having easy access to vagina/having a penis in your vagina then. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:25 AM
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Dude. People do shit that isn't necessary to survival all the time. People jump out of airplanes and drive fast cars and shoot heroin and play sports and stuff. None of that is essential to survival. A human doesn't need to score X amount of three-pointers in basketball or jump out of Y number of airplanes to survive. Do people do that shit anyway? Yes. So nah, it's not meaningless. People are gonna sex even though people don't gotta sex to live. And since there's too many humans already, birth …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:24 AM
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Or I'm saying that people have enjoyed/continued to enjoy life without being as sex obsessed as you. Touché, motherfucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:21 AM
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K. Book a flight to Amsterdam and go to one of those legal brothel places. Baddabingbaddaboom ur havin the sex gold star 4 u m8
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:19 AM
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Ok but female affection =/= sex. And sex = hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:17 AM
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It's sad because you're literally saying you'd put yourself in arguably one of the worst positions one can be in, a situation millions would kill and have killed to try to escape, than go without sticking your penis in something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:16 AM
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Love and belonging =/= sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:14 AM
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And that is a very sad view to have IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:13 AM
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A comedy skit does not a convincing argument make. Try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:12 AM
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You keep mentioning that sex is not a necessary to live True. but it is necessary to actually enjoy life. LMAOOOOOOOO NOPE.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:11 AM
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That's really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:10 AM
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Dude, if it hurts see a doctor. Or a therapist. Or a hooker. Or one of those fake vagina things. I'd like to think that there are solutions to these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:10 AM
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I'm not saying that dude. I'm saying there's more to life than gettin ya dick wet. And complaining about not gettin ya dick wet constantly isn't gonna win you many friends (most don't do this but there are some that do).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:09 AM
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Dude I'll trade you if you're that pissed about it. I don't give a fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:08 AM
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So...you're saying...you'd rather sleep out on the streets, starving and cold, vulnerable to disease, in constant danger, with threats around every corner, exposed to violence and drugs and addiction and all sorts of vices and temptations, with almost no way to escape the cycle of poverty you find yourself in...than not get laid? Are you shitting me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:07 AM
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I actually do. My friends talk about sex all the time. My college is huge so I'll overhear convos about the escapades (or lack thereof) of strangers. A popular anon college platform here is YikYak, and people (who identify as dudes) will post about not getting laid/wanting to hook up all the time. And need I even mention Tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:05 AM
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K good for you I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:03 AM
0

Please point out this "solipsism" hon
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:03 AM
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You havent and will never experience what a mans sex drive can be. I mean, XX woman =/= XY man so...this is obvious? What are you even getting at here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:02 AM
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Women are lucky because they have easy access to sex. I mean whatever you say bro. I'm a lady and I don't give a fuck (tee hee) one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:01 AM
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Well that's kinda sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:59 AM
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I think everyone could have sex with someone if they wanted to, but having sex with someone who you don't want to have sex with would be worse than having no sex at all. It just wouldn't be satisfying, and could bring up so much regret, disgust, and other negative emotions. Well that sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:59 AM
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I mean if someone wants to do that to themself? Their choice I guess. Doesn't sound that fun but it's an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:58 AM
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Pick any argument in this vein, and, unless you have a true calling in your life (i.e. something that will leave a real legacy for humanity aside from your offspring), it will come down to the nookie. Doubt.png
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:57 AM
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I think the large amount of people on the depression and foreveralone subs who are planning to kill themselves because they've never been wanted/received affection and don't think that'll ever change will disagree with you. That is very, very sad that so many people feel that way. But certainly there are other solutions? They could get a dog/cat/pet if they want affection so badly. Get a hooker or a sex toy if they want sex so badly. Certainly get psychiatric help if they feel like killing thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:56 AM
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Ok, then you don't necessarily need money. But you DO need the food, water, shelter, etc provided by said shelters and charity to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:51 AM
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Why would you tie your validation and sense of self worth to someone fucking you/fucking someone though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:49 AM
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I mean I'd be ok with it. I've gone this far without it. I can certainly go further. I have more important shit to do anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:48 AM
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I mean. Last time I checked. If you're a woman with XX chromosomes. You are not also a man with XY chromosomes. Those things are mutually exclusive. So.....thanks for pointing out the obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:48 AM
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Well that's kinda sad that you think that way. Are you alright? Do you need help? Like I'm not even bullshitting you this sounds pretty unhealthy like I'm legitimately concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:46 AM
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I'm just saying, just as it'd be a little annoying to hear someone talk about model trains, video games, sports, etc all the time nonstop the same can be said in terms of bitching about sex (or not having sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:46 AM
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LMAO no don't bring that bullshit in here m8 there are plenty of sex obsessed females too, I'm just not one of them. Try harder lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:45 AM
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Said it before, I'll say it again. In this society you need money to live. We have an economy based on paper money not barter, and we don't live in a socialist/communist state either. You need money for food and shelter. You don't need sex to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:15 AM
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Ok but in this society you need money to live. Like, there's no question about that. Money buys goods and services and shit you need to survive. The same cannot be said for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:14 AM
-2

I mean, I guess one could look for ways to erm, relieve some pressure instead? They sell sex toys that are shaped like vaginas and dicks ya know. Plus hookers are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:13 AM
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I can see how that might happen but there are always other things to do. It can't be healthy to be so obsessed with one thing. Also hookers are a thing. If you live somewhere where they're legal. And even if you don't tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:05 AM
1

I realize that but it can't be healthy to have so much of your time and brain capacity consumed by something that, let's face it, isn't essential for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:03 AM
0

Mmmmkay but you don't need sex to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:02 AM
5

Both have similar problems. They both have low SMV and RMV, no one wants to date them really. They both have baggage. They both arguably, being brutally honest, made shitty life decisions. And they both tend to be rather lonely, desperately craving human companionship-a feeling we can all sympathise with...or apparently not. Yet, we molly coddle single mothers and feel for their struggle, yet we either ignore, or relentlessly mock the struggle of the so-called Nice Guytm and lonely man. Last I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 03:19 AM
1

Everyone is different Xem. I know you yourself are 23, and may therefore feel insecure about your maturity as compared to your peers and those younger than you. That being said, in general women tend to mature faster than men. This is partially due to girls reaching puberty and maturing physically earlier than boys, giving girls anywhere from a 1 to 3 year leg-up as compared to their male peers. In addition, this 2013 study from researchers at Newcastle University also states that overall women …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 11:55 PM
1

The point is society will claim that you have a character defect for getting rejected by women anyway. This is true. It's a particularly nasty iteration of a toxic masculine ideal that states that men should all want sex and relationships and get sex and relationships all the time. The idea of men wanting sex all the time sets those that either don't want or don't have sex apart as "defective." People just base their self worth excessively on sex. If that same person goes on the internet and ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:48 AM
3

Well czech out my diddly dang response. No crickets crickleycrackin over here mate, and certainly no female su-su-su-su-SUPREMACYYYYYYYYYYYYY here either. No exposé for you darlin, try again l8r lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:39 AM
1

Sorry for the late reply, I have a life and stuff so I can't be on reddit 24/7 ya dig? Anywhooooo on to this since you decided to drop me a line, here's my apparently long awaited response. She's being a MASSIVE DICK. Throwing a fit like that in public is completely inappropriate and inexcusable. She'd set it up in her mind that her and this guy were gonna get together, and when presented with something other than this she chose to throw a hissy fit like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:29 AM
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Getting rejected doesn't make someone an asshole. Getting rejected and continuing to pursue said person in spite of this, thus disrespecting their wishes makes you an asshole. There's an important distinction there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:24 AM
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I was "noticeably silent" because I was in class chill fam I just got back from a 3 hour exam. I have a life ya know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:05 AM
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I am feeling the pull of that "you are a terrible person" strongly today. Xem. You don't need more RP vs BP, you don't need more "MGTOW" ideas, you don't need more gender politics. You need help. If you're not already going to a licensed therapist I strongly suggest going to see one. They in turn could recommend some new/different medication and some techniques to help you cope and feel better. I think you've unfortunately fallen into the trap of getting more and more obsessed with this stuff, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:06 PM
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For being unable to regulate his feelings? No. Humans are emotional creatures, and it's only natural that many will develop romantic interest in another person they already have a positive relationship with, such as a friendship. The asshole part comes when the person in question does not respect the other's wishes. I don't care if you're absolutely infatuated with someone, if they say no to you and you refuse to respect their wishes, you are an asshole. Many of these Nice Guys (aka not actual n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:09 PM
1

The reason that the term Nice Guys (TM) is used is I believe in response to the many cases in which these men declare they should be "given a chance" and deserve the girl because "they're a nice guy." They say this as though simply being a decent person (the bare minimum) is enough for them to deserve the affection of the object of their desires. Yes, you read that right. Deserve. Many of them think that just their decency is enough to warrant them sex and affection, and due to this sense of ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:03 PM
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There's a difference between actual nice guys and Nice Guys (TM). A nice guy is kind, and cool, and nice to hang out with, and isn't really bothered by his female friends not being aggressively into him. He just enjoys their company, platonically. A Nice Guy (TM) will slave over his female friends in a pathetic attempt to "win their heart," coming off as overbearing and creepy in the process. A Nice Guy (TM) will also try to talk shit about other guys or discourage the girl in question from gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:00 AM
3

Yeah how about no. Five minutes of anything isn't that much. Besides, most of what TRP defines as "~alpha~" disgusts me anyway. Like ew. I'd take normal any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 03:20 AM
1

Sounds pretty good, though I would like to do stuff like go to a few parties and have fun adventures like travel. likes to overcome any relationship obstacle through sensitivity, sharing emotions, communication and honesty. This is the cherry on top though. Communication and honesty are huge for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 03:18 AM
1

Has something of a bad boy/fuck boy outlook on relationships. Enjoys casual dating, has had many hookups, attitude defaults to cocky, and doesn't emote or express much vulnerability. Nope. Nopenopenopenopenope. I can't stand cocky people, or arrogance much at all. Also, not emoting or expressing vulnerability? It'd be like dating a robot. Ew. A robot-fucker I am not, thankyaverymuch.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 03:13 AM
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BP wants verbal consent. I work with implied. It's not so much that BP wants verbal consent as it is that the law wants verbal consent. I for one support verbal enthusiastic consent as it prevents any misconceptions that could arise from relying on "implied" consent alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 03:47 AM
0

"I make it clear through speaking that I am smarter on a specific subject, and better equipped to answer this request for help than others, and that getting help from me is a prize, not something one should take for granted." That's...kinda acting like a jerk imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 03:43 AM
2

I'd probably date a teen dad. Might even marry one too. Dealing of the mother of the child/children would be tricky but assuming that the mother is MIA/not in the picture I'd raise the kids with him as though they were my own. Children need to be loved and protected, and two people protecting them is easier than just one bearing all the burden. It doesn't matter who donated sperm to make them or who pushed them out of their body. They need love and protection. I would 100% be willing to step up …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 04:03 AM
1

Took dance classes for years. Ballet, jazz, modern and even (cringe) hip-hop. Came out of it mediocre at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 03:56 AM
1

A7X yesssssssssss
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 03:53 AM
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Self improvement stuff: Good! Be confident! Make yourself into someone you're proud of! Do things that make you feel good without hurting anyone else! Everything else: No. Just no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 03:51 AM
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said everyone. I can say that you don't need or deserve rights too dude. Does that make it right? No, not really. Human rights is kinda a big deal. unlike today where it is lionized. Source that shit fam. most rules and laws did not apply to women. LOL source that please. They also did not pay taxes in the overwhelming majority of cases. Well duh. You can't pay taxes on nonexistent income. No job, no income, no income tax. Plus women didn't really own anything either, their property rights were …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 02:20 AM
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"They did not have a role in male areas like voting and education because they did not need it." They didn't need it? Says who? A single mother with no education and no means to support herself or her family needs to work, and selling one's body doesn't exactly come with a retirement plan. Also women didn't need the right to vote? LMAO yeah let's just live in a country where we must follow all the rules and laws but get no say in what the government does or who gets elected. The UK tried that wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 11:58 PM
3

Women holding 21 CEO positions out of 500 companies included in the Fortune 500 list and 90 voting and 3 nonvoting female members of congress out of 535 plus 5 delegates isn't exactly a strong showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 11:54 PM
5

Bernie Sanders all the way, mainly because he's honest and has pretty much consistently stuck to his beliefs and has a solid 40-year track record working in government.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:20 AM
2

Nope! Not worth the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 09:40 PM
1

Well why wouldn't you apply this principle in this area of life as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:04 AM
1

Um...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:39 AM
0

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:36 AM
9

Well of course! Why wouldn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:34 AM
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Please, please please tell me you're not trying to equate a necessary and voluntary medical procedure essential for the health of adult women with someone forcing another person to perform sexual acts against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:32 AM
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Again I reiterate, I'm not saying TRP ruined this relationship. I'm saying that TRP may have had a ROLE in this relationship's decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 08:15 PM
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"Just because someone isn't smart enough to understand they're being manipulative doesn't make it any better." Is that a dig at my intelligence? I understand that at times I will be unintentionally manipulative but I try my best to avoid being manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 07:29 PM
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I disagree on the free will and choice comment. And "training" the other party to do what you want is still manipulation, of which I am certainly not a fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 06:44 PM
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Regardless of whether or not she's "worth keeping" or her issues, she's still a person who (if her story is to believed) suffered an abusive relationship in a foreign country with no local support network. That is an incredibly dangerous situation. Why don't you try having some damn compassion instead of judging whether or not the OP is "worth" something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 06:39 PM
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We teach people. We can teach others how to behave in a way that society deems appropriate, we can convey unto others useful knowledge and skills. When you say train it implies that the "trained" person in question is to obey the command of the other person without having the decision to "disobey" or do something else. This is a removal of free will and choice, and therefore worthy of condemnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 06:36 PM
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Don't you dare try to pin the potential actions of redpillers on me. I explicitly stated the OP is not to be bothered. If you or others of your ilk wanna get your kicks from harassing a potential victim of abuse I can't stop you, but that's the decision of the harassers, and they are responsible for their actions, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 06:34 PM
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Except women are people and "training" people to act in a way you want is morally deplorable. You don't fucking train people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 06:32 PM
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I guess you're right. I just really feel bad for the woman in this situation as I can relate to her a lot. I just wish the RP folks on here were a little more empathetic and open to criticizing their own ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:57 PM
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I agree, he definitely would have to have underlying abusive tendencies for him to become an abuser. That being said, I still think TRP and RP ideas had a role in worsening the situation or speeding up the transition of the relationship from a relatively normal one to an abusive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:48 PM
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I know it's obviously the fault of the "cuntrag" in question, but it's still an example of how disturbed individuals could interpret or in this case misinterpret RP ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:42 PM
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I simply posted this because RP and RP ideas were mentioned frequently in the original post. I know that RP advocates strongly against physical abuse and domestic violence, but I still thought it was relevant as is illustrates a situation where RP ideas very well may have caused or exacerbated an abusive situation. I totally understand your analogy though. I'm a DV victim myself, and although that's a part of my life I don't like to talk about I understand the pressure to maintain an outward app…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:40 PM
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You're welcome to think that, but I do think that her story is genuine. In addition, it's not unusual for those in an abusive relationship to stick around longer than they should, as often they've been conditioned over time to think of the abuse as normal. The abuser also often cuts the victim off from family and friends, and the OP mentioned she moved to another country and learned another language to be with him. So we have a woman in a foreign country, where people speak a language that is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:37 PM
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I agree, but obviously anyone who commits DV is a disturbed individual. My guess is he read TRP ideas like women "being children" and men being able to "train" and modify women's behavior to suit them and conflated them with his underlying disturbed and violent tendencies, resulting in the abuse detailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:30 PM
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I think she is a real person due to her post on subreddits other than TwoX, but the account appears to be one of multiple that she's used, I don't know about her other accounts. She very well could have just been browsing reddit and subs like TwoX without an account prior to her cry for help, and then subsequently made an account in order to talk to the other redditors on the subs she frequented. That being said, I think that it's definitely not wise to completely dismiss RP's involvement in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:28 PM
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I would generally agree. However, when you take someone who might already have violent tendencies, and then expose them to writings, posts and literature about how women need to be "trained," it's not too far of a stretch for them to think that in order to "train" the woman in question they would have to get physical to "discipline" her. I think it's a horrific cocktail of someone who might have already been slightly disturbed with ideas that to a disturbed mind would interpret as advocating for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:22 PM
2

People are beautiful and intelligent and wonderful and worthy in their own ways. Everyone has their inherent worth. Do you take some sort of issue with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:47 PM
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Why would I be being sarcastic? Everyone is beautiful in their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:23 PM
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"However, most women, including feminists are sympathetic towards the high rates of depression, substance abuse and suicide in men. Is this because if they don't protect these liberties, dead men make for fewer beta buxes?" No it's because suicide is a tragedy, depression is a serious mental illness and substance abuse destroys lives. Not everything is about "beta bucks" or similar nonsense, it's humans feeling bad for and wanting to heal and protect other sick and dying humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:20 PM
2

But all women are beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:17 PM
2

Kidnap? You sure about that? Removing kids from an environment that is potentially unhealthy and unsafe is not kidnapping at all dude. It's an emergency measure to ensure their safety. And it's not like I'd be taking them to fuckin Venezuela or something, just to grandma's house for the weekend. And while this isn't an h-bomb level debacle, it's still worrying as exposing myself (or my kids if they exist) to someone who follows an increasingly cultish ideology with members who repeatedly make co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 10:26 PM
1

Is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 09:26 PM
4

Or they were trying to remove themself and/or their children from a situation they deemed unsafe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:39 PM
1

Well you failed bro. No use worrying about that shit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:25 PM
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I view a relationship with a RedPiller or even someone slightly red as a dangerous situation for both myself and my children (if they exist). It wouldn't be a safe and healthy environment for me or my kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:24 PM
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Your "generalizations" were purposefully inflammatory and rude, and have no basis in reality. Don't play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:22 PM
1

I realize that, but the question specifically pertained to marriage. Yes this stuff could happen without marriage happening but some of it (like having kids) would not happen without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:18 PM
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By not having the statement exist at all. Making assumptions (especially ones traditionally viewed as negative) about someone's appearance or health (including mental health) isn't contributing in any way to the discussion of the subject at hand. Also, since RP folks like yourself hate being stereotyped as a group of, let's say, misogynistic neckbeards with no social skills who live with their parents, I would think you would have the good sense and common courtesy not to do the same to other gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:15 PM
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Do you have to be rude though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:10 PM
6

Thank you so much for your wonderful input on this subject /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:09 PM
2

Congrats on being able to play guitar again!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:02 PM
5

Dude do you get off on being a dick or something? Who shat in your oatmeal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:01 PM
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I don't do casual sex ever, but if I did find out a guy I was in a relationship or even married too was RP in the slightest, he'd be out of my life so fucking fast. Pack my shit, take my money, take the kids (if they exist) somewhere safe, go to court if needed. Cut off all contact except legally required contact (like court dates, discussing kids if they exist, etc). Erase all trace of him in my life and online. Carry on like he never existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 07:43 PM
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Worst things: Being raped/murdered, him hurting our children, him being abusing, him cheating, him taking all my money, him suing me, him taking away my kids entirely, no shared visitation. Best thing: Living and working together to raise happy, successful children in an equal, cooperative relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 07:37 PM
1

Bruh. Did you not read the article I linked about ambiguous genitalia found in intersex individuals? The one that states using genitalia as the SOLE determinant of one's sex doesn't always apply? Did you also not read the piece I linked about sex and gender not being the same thing??? I spelled all this out already, I don't know why you're still confused. EDIT: Also, how old are you? No offense but your views on this subject are really dated and keeping with someone raised in a time when issues …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 03:31 AM
1

A Y chromosome does not always beget maleness first of all. In addition the gene responsible for sending an embryo down the "masculine" pathway exists not only in the Y chromosome but also on the 17th chromosome in humans thus it is much more accurate to not think of sex as dependent on chromosomes but as the sum total of our genetic makeup. Also, having a penis or not is not necessarily a mark of one being a male or not. In fact, one's genitalia isn't a good marker at all of whether one is male…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 03:08 AM
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Holy shit Xem. Not gonna lie, I'm pressed for time so I skimmed this instead of reading critically but damn you are one dedicated mofo in terms of building a case article-style.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:55 AM
1

Um...the person in this video is a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:42 AM
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A man of course. I can't imagine treating him as anything/anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:41 AM
1

What about options 4) get another woman to protect her, 5) get several people to protect her, 6) protect a man in exchange for protection, 7) protect a woman in exchange for protection, 8) help protect several people in exchange for protection or 9) help protect the government in exchange for protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:37 AM
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I realize that but the thread you linked is not my usual debate "technique." I don't even really have a technique. I just say stuff and occasionally link relevant articles and papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:03 AM
2

"Women should instead be less "strong and independent", becoming kind and submissive, and be a complete sex toy for their SO." Or people can do whatever the fuck they want. Not every woman is dying to be your sexual fantasy bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:55 AM
1

Oh boy another post about yours truly! First of all, I think turning our attention to the initial comment that started the whole thread will be enlightening. For those too lazy to click the link, a brief synopsis is as follows: u/TheSandbergPrinciple asked me for my opinion as to why women change their preferences in terms of men and what they find attractive in men over time. I replied with my view on the subject. Señor Sandberg then replied: "Jesus Christ, that's the worst case of rationalizat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:38 AM
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Well you can't punch me through the Internet now can you darlin? Glad I could help sweetheart!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 12:00 AM
-1

Whatever you say, honeybun :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 11:46 PM
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AWWW thanks sugarplum! <3
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 10:56 PM
1

Are you insinuating all those things ("shriveled ovaries" et al) about me? If so you're in for a surprise honey
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:08 PM
4

People want different things at different times. While a hotshot radio deejay who's a notorious playboy may seem like a good option for a college girl, a woman who's looking to marry and settle down may not find such a thing attractive. Vice versa a blue collar worker with a solid job may seem too "boring" for younger women who are eager to date around and experiment. As we age, we change, therefore the things we want changes too. In addition, "settle down" doesn't mean a lack of options necessa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 08:49 PM
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I do think it is glossed over. I think unfortunately that since we've been focusing on DV's traditional victims (i.e. women in heterosexual relationships) we've neglected nontraditional victims such as men and those in same sex relationships. In addition, the masculine ideal that men are supposed to be "manly" and "tough" and therefore will not let such abuse happen (if they do they're "pussies") also makes it harder for male victims in dangerous situations to be viewed seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 08:46 PM
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I mean the bolded part is pretty typical of most relationship problems. If your SO has trouble getting their shit together (keeping a job, paying their bills, staying out of trouble with the law), has a serious issue like addiction, is dishonest with you for no reason, steals from you, cheats on you, or just isn't really committed to keeping the relationship alive (ignores you all the time, refuses to talk about issues, etc), those are all reasons to end a relationship. But when two people are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 08:44 PM
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.....have you ever considered that some women may not want to settle down yet due to reasons other than this alpha-beta nonsense? A woman may be trying to complete an education, or focusing on work and her career, or helping her family, or volunteering her time and talents, or just be happy to be single and spend time with her friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 08:39 PM
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And thank God that nowadays many parts of the world view people as people instead of as property.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 04:10 PM
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Not to mention spousal abuse against women being glossed over and even encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 03:47 PM
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Feminist reporting in here, the above is true. You're always going to want a good partner to spend your life with, someone you trust and who respects you, someone you get along well with and can build a life with. Hence, you're going to want to "shop around" to make sure you find a partner where each of your strengths complement each other so you can form a partnership where both individuals benefit and work well together. That being said, when you find someone you really mesh well with, someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 03:43 PM
0

Yo not trying to defend Regina or anything but her life is kinda also super fucked up. Her mom is constantly trying to out-cool her and desperately hang on to her youth (with rock-hard boob implants to show for it). Her father holds back tears when he sees her in her basically lingerie Halloween costume and Gretchen spills the beans to Cady that her father and mother don't sleep in the same bed anymore. Finally there's her little sister, gyrating and imitating Girls Gone Wild with no parental su…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 03:35 PM
-2

Or how about no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 01:55 AM
5

Ew I just read this and got all sorts of icky heebie-jeebies. What a creep. Time for some eye bleach
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:40 PM
1

I'll probably get a lot of flack for this, but have you considered that, since you don't feel "in touch" with either gender, you might feel more comfortable identifying as agender or another nonbinary gender? If you feel comfortable identifying as a man/woman, this is a bit of a moot point, but it's possible that this may make you feel more comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:31 PM
5

Not in the case of farmers. 43% female to 57% male is hardly an almost exclusively male workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:14 AM
5

I read my quote "random fucking studies." What exactly do you have a problem with in the excerpted section you quoted?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:10 AM
2

Yes men do all those things, and our modern world depends on such work. I commend them for their hard work maintaining our way of life. That being said, the original incorrect assertion by Señor Zerk implied that these positions were filled exclusively by men. Now of course, we know that this is not the case, hence my rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:08 AM
2

You brought up Hitler and made the comparison in a satirical way to my initial argument in order to illustrate your opinion that my argument was as ridiculous as "Hitler loving the Jews" my man. Thus you indirectly compared my assertion to Hitler, thus fulfilling Godwin's Law. It's a stretch I know, but I don't make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:02 AM
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Or men are simply viewed as more creative regardless of whether or not this is actually the case. Also, women actually tend to work harder and work longer hours than male workers on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:00 AM
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And that has nothing to do with anything! Congrats, you're our Godwin's Law winner of the day!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 01:55 AM
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Protect them, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 01:46 AM
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Women also protect us, grow our food, maintain the world's infrastructure and keep our electricity and internet bandwidth flowing dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 01:45 AM
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Came for the shoutout, stayed for the satirical article. I'd say that the standards and expectations concerning appearance and behavior that are "gender swapped" in the article come more from the mainstream media than guys in general. Girls as young as 9 and 10 are being told to wear makeup (in many cases that they need to wear makeup and that makeup will make them acceptable and garner attention) and are beginning to dress in a way they're told is "attractive" and "sexy." And let's not forget e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 06:50 PM
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Nope! Absolutely zero evidence of anything of this sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 06:25 PM
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Oh boy, here they are again. "The Real Men." The only true manly men. The only acceptable men. Who is the real man? Who are these "real men?" I like to think The Real Men (TM) are 8 feet tall with massive, flowing beards. They consume only raw protein and alcohol. They fell trees with their bare hands and lift at least 5 hours a day every day. They engage in homoerotic naked mud wrestling and other such feats of strength. The Real Men sleep with at least 3 women each day, usually two or three at…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:50 AM
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"Ugly" guy: Wonder what's wrong with him. Go through vetting process. Assess physical attributes coupled with kindness, intelligence, skills, interests, hobbies, beliefs, etc. Learn about him and his friends and associates; ask said friends for information. Assess past relationships (if any). Talk to ex girlfriends if possible. Based on this assessment he will be either rejected or accepted. Chance of going on first date: 20%. Post date if both parties have decided the relationship will move for…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:39 AM
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It's not shaming. It's just warning other people who might be affected by said person. It'd be like if you found out someone was, for instance, a heavy drinker. That bothers some people, it doesn't bother others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:38 AM
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I mean if my brother did start following TRP disowning my brother wouldn't be fun. But I would if I had to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 09:53 PM
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It's the new year! Time to SHOOT THE FIRE STICKS AND MAKE THE SKY EXPLODE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:35 AM
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Sweet we get guns and fireworks and then my 3 dogs barking their asses off :') happy new year to me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:28 AM
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Bruh not everyone has HIV/AIDS. Less than .5% of the world's population has HIV/AIDS, and 97% of cases are in developing or 3rd world nations. And didn't you not read the part about being concerned about STDs? Also even though HIV/AIDs is a serious disease medicine has come quite a long way. With proper treatment and just 1-2 pills a day the virus' presence in the body can be so low that it becomes undetectable and transmission to another person is basically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:27 AM
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Brah u know our OG aesthetic body builder god Zyzz kicked the bucket back in '11. Could be he's all up and reincarnated into this lil fella but 4-5 year olds don't have much muscle mass ya dig? We all gon make it brah. We have the keys to success
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:53 AM
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69 lel
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:38 AM
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SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM but pour one out for the homies left for dead fam
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:38 AM
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Red, blue, grey, black, purple, whatever, at the end of the day we're all just idiots debating gender politics and relations on a website that will most likely be defunct within the next 20 years. Feliz Año Nuevo my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:15 AM
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Why be inebriated when you can sell your labor in order to survive in a capitalistic society you have no means of escaping! That'll fuck you up just as much haha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:09 AM
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Counter ideology is dank memes and fedora shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:07 AM
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I give them a 100%, AKA a solid 5/7
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:07 AM
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99 DOUBLE STANDARDS ON THE WALL, 99 MORE DOUBLE STANDSSSS YA TAKE ONE DOWN AND DEBATE IT AROUND, 98 MORE DOUBLE STANDS ON THE WALL
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:06 AM
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It was in the ASS OF RICHARD M. NIXON.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:01 AM
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Resolution: Continue to breathe as our planet repeats its route around the sun from 2016 into 2017
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:55 AM
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All hail our new Alpha overlord
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:26 AM
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Stereotypes exist because it's easier (read: lazier) to judge other people in groups rather than fairly assess them as individuals. Also promiscuous female =/= "~slut~"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:23 AM
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Yo homie hit me with some sources for that plz
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:17 AM
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I didn't say promiscuous women didn't exist. I said sluts didn't exist. Women can be promiscuous but that does not mean they deserve to be labeled as sluts, as the word "slut" carries many negative insinuations about their character that are dated, disparaging, and inaccurate. And yes, unfortunately due to lack of comprehensive sex ed and lack of proper use of contraception due to lack of information, many STDs have become widespread. However, through expanding research as well as beginning sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:02 AM
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We can't have that now! Bonerkill time!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:13 PM
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Be careful what you wish for
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:07 PM
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In terms of finding out whether the person has STDs, if you're going to have sexual contact with them of course it's your business. Judging people on their number of sexual partners and their sexual experience (or lack thereof) is not your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:05 PM
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Brilliant idea! Let's make assumptions about my appearance as opposed to, I dunno, actually reading and analyzing my argument. Why form either refutations or supporting statements when you can just call me ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:02 PM
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Aside from the obvious "If you lift weights some people will find you more attractive and if you dress better some people will find you more attractive and if you talk to more people you have more chances to get laid" bit, no not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:52 PM
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Your refusal to respond to my assertion with a valid argument or line of inquiry speaks to the weakness of your initial argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:29 PM
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Sequence of events as follows. Look through folder. (Side note: You have a folder? Really?) Horror sets in. Pack my shit if we live together. Take all my valuables and money if we for some reason have a joint account .(note: this is MY money and stuff not yours) Confront you about it. Hear what you have to say. If you don't give me a damn good reason why it's there (like researching the group for a sociology paper for example), I leave. Tell all my friends. Have them tell their friends. Show the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:14 PM
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"These women can drop out of high school, do drugs, fuck hundreds of bad boys, get pregnant, get an abortion, get pregnant again, get another abortion, and then end up married to a beta male provider. Or if they play their cards right and look halfway decent (and aren't post-wall), trick an Alpha into marrying their used up ass." Someone's bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:03 PM
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Almost all the Avengers also.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:58 PM
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Wow, these sluts sure sound dangerous! Good thing that they don't exist, and that other's sexual history and activity is none of your business unless you are their partner and concerned about STDs, in which case there are condoms, antibiotics and other treatments! What a relief!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:53 PM
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K man I mean the convo was basically done but message received bro
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 12:17 AM
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Or people can wear whatever the fuck they want, regardless if it's someone's OPINION that they look "~slutty~" And "discipline?" Get outta here with that infantilizing bullshit please and thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:21 PM
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Dude I don't pity you. I'm trying to empathize with you (which is really fucking hard for me to do in general). You obviously got hurt badly, by someone you cared about deeply, and as a result are angry, confused and upset. That is a shitty situation and not one I'd wish on anyone. And what is this business about "turning against you?" We're not at war here man. I don't see you as some sort of adversary. If you were to say something that bothered me, yes I'd say something about it, but it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:52 PM
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Wow. You're obviously still very angry at her. Her not wanting to contact you does not equal her hating you though. Sometimes we just don't need or want certain people in our lives anymore. Since you guys used to be romantically involved I can see how you could fit into the category of people she no longer wants in her life. It seems like you're still processing her actions toward you through an emotional filter of anger and aggression, and this is tainting your view of the situation. If you sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:31 PM
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I would not welcome that, actually. When you assume, it makes an ass out of you, my friend. I'll freely admit that my opinions on abuse and DV are certainly biased due to personal experience toward preventing abuse as much as possible, and prosecuting abusers harshly to the fullest extent of the law. That being said, if someone is displaying behavior such as controlling someone's social media accounts for them, controlling what they wear, cutting them off from friends and family, and other warni…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:13 PM
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What do you mean unblocked? Had you blocked her before? What exactly is your history with her? And often with harassment it can be a bit of a grey area. Texts and their responses are often notoriously shitty at conveying the same emotional nuances as speech. As a result someone who absolutely hated you could have responded with "Thank you!" and a smile simply to be polite. Whether or not this was the case I do not know, but it's certainly a possibility. If the above was the case though, and this…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:06 PM
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I can't even begin to form a response to this. Just no. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:46 PM
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30/36 18 F USA, native speaker. Not bad considering I tend to blunder when reading some social situations since by brain chemistry is kinda outta whack and sometimes me no do the think thing good lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:44 PM
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Dude. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:38 PM
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"And the fun part is, I am sure that these people will be monitoring my ISP soon if I continue on the Xemnas account, as suggested by my thread on the Investigatory Powers Bill 2 days ago." Uh Xem? Paranoid much? I hate to say it because it sounds harsh but honestly, you're probably not important enough/that big of a priority for the government to use it's resources to monitor you. In addition, I honestly don't see that much of an issue with the law if it's applied properly and evenly. The inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:36 PM
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Oh the SO cheating is definitely the worst by far. 18 F, purple leaning blue I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:25 PM
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Ohhhhhhhhh. Wow!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:30 AM
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Yo, all those years of church and sunday school and confirmation class were good for something at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:20 AM
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K but like aren't you from not america tho because there's no way we went to the same school or somethin
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:19 AM
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Jesus was a badass. Dude fuckin rolled with criminals and prostitutes, started a riot in a motherfucking temple, and was all "Fuck the Police" to the Romans and shit. He even cursed a tree for not giving him figs, dude took no shit and did not fuck around. He was the original party animal. Aside from turning water into wine, he also up an fed and entertained 5000 people by using fancy Jesus voodoo magic, multiplying loaves and fish like it ain't no thing. Ain't no party like a Jesus party becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:15 AM
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How is it creepy Xem? Explain plz.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:53 AM
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I'd gild you if I wasn't broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 09:17 PM
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If I had to take a guess I'd say because they tend to be more self confident and, let's be honest here, full of themselves. Contrary to the popular media myth of the insecure bully, bullies tend to on average have higher self esteem than other kids. More self confidence and higher self esteem leads to a tendency to take risks in terms of dating and asking people out, as well as behavior that could potentially be risky to minors such as going to parties and gatherings where alcohol and drugs abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 09:15 PM
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Late to the party but they're all vomit-inducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:53 PM
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4 4 3 5 5 (even though I don't care for facial hair that much) 3 This is really weird for me to actually rate people on a numerical scale. I usually gage people's attractiveness relative to others around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 03:49 PM
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Jesus Christ. I don't know if that story is real or not but it's absolutely sickening. Fucking horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 01:19 PM
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Bro. Feminism doesn't defend and justify all women's actions. Cheating is still cheating and is in my view still a super shitty thing to do no matter who does it. Your mother's inability to see herself in the wrong speaks more to a refusal to take responsibility for her actions and a general immaturity than anything. And before you say anything, NO feminism does NOT excuse women's actions when they do something shitty. Feminism just states women and men should have the same opportunities and be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 12:52 PM
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If she has concerns yes they're valid, which is why they need to talk about it. That's where the "talking about issues" bit comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 06:34 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, who gives a shit who people sleep with and how often? Seriously. If people are fucking a lot, let them fuck a lot! If they don't want to, that's fine! The only legitimate issues here could be from not having safe sex and spreading STDs or if an individual in a closed monogamous relationship is sleeping around. Why do y'all care so much about what hypothetical women are doing in their youth? Guys sleep around all the time, and unless they're all sleeping…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:35 PM
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Everything? You sure bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:19 PM
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Asking someone to mind their words is not the same as removing their bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:16 PM
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Yes but this is just a hypothetical scenario. What would be your thoughts and/or actions if such a scenario did arise?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:40 AM
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The transphobic bit was when you claimed that all men could just up and decide to be women and the "sausage fest" in the bathroom. Trans women are women from birth, they are just misidentified at birth as male. Now, one could be fluid in one's gender and change identities as one feels comfortable, but in general trans people are not just people of one gender who just decide to be another gender. They are people who have always been their true gender but were misidentified or went as their incorr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:39 AM
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Your blatant anti-transgender prejudices aside, you surely cannot say that women have always been involved in government and voting. They were forbidden by law to in many places prior to the last ~100 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 01:16 AM
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Ok but the real question is who gives a shit about who other people are sleeping with and how often? The only time that's an issue is if they're in a closed monogamous relationship or if they're not practicing safe sex and could be transmitting STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 01:12 AM
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It would of course be more fair for both genders to be represented but we've seen throughout much of history that simply hasn't been the case. Hence my proposal of the role reversal in which the men are the ones not being represented instead of the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 01:08 AM
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But for years women have made up half the population and still don't get half the representation in government in many countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 12:38 AM
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I mean, one of us is probably gonna get married at some point but it's nice to have a backup plan. In addition, not only will we be taking needy dogs and cats off the streets we can give children in the foster care system or orphaned in countries abroad a safe, loving home. Plus we go well together. We're both planning on pursuing the sciences, her as a teacher and myself as an engineer. She's a great cook and a really hard worker, while I'm good at DIY projects and saving money. We can each tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:36 PM
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I feel the exact same way but this question is about how one would feel if one's government was composed only of females.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:09 PM
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I'd try to help him as best as I could, but stress the fact that he may get rejected and should handle such rejections gracefully, AKA not getting obsessed with a woman and constantly bothering her nor becoming violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 09:55 PM
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Just an aside here, my best friend and I actually have a plan where if neither of us are married by age 40 we're getting married, buying a house, and adopting dogs, cats and children. AKA eternal sleepover and best plan ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 09:50 PM
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Why the fuck is someone's SO "'allowing" or "not allowing" them to have certain friends in the first place what the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 09:44 PM
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It's not an obligation, it's just basic decency not to be sexist just as its basic decency not to be racist, homophobic, etc. Asking others to be decent is hardly policing their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:55 PM
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That's kinda fucked up TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:21 PM
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I'm actually asking believe it or not. Didn't know asking to be viewed as equals and treated with respect was such an inflammatory statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:21 PM
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Ok but why would you base so much of your self worth and validation on sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:48 PM
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Dude I'm not saying the behavior of the women he's describing isn't beyond reproach. It's pretty shitty to sleep with someone who is a huge jerk to someone else you know. The difference here again lies in ASKING vs TELLING. He could talk to them and be like, "Hey X guy is really a jerk to me, did you know that? Are you sure that you want to sleep with him knowing that?" and then let THEM respond as they see fit. But, saying to them "You shouldn't sleep with X guy because he's a jerk to me" remov…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:48 PM
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In terms of not dying, yes. Would I be happy? Probably not. But would I die? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:36 PM
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Those claims are not equivalent. Here is why: The first case (asking your friends not to be misogynistic or exclude women) is asking someone to mind their words. The second case (expecting women not to sleep with those who are cruel to you) is policing someone's body. While in my view it is acceptable to ask others to be respectful of their peers, this "respect" does not go as fas as to tell them what they can and cannot do with their bodies. In addition, there is the whole "asking" vs "expectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 11:37 AM
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It's kinda immature to refer to beliefs opposite of yours as "garbage" or cult-like. Also in terms of strength, yes men tend have more upper body strength as opposed to lover body strength, and women tend to have the reverse. However, this doesn't mean that all men will automatically have more upper body strength than all women. I believe that while men and women will be DIFFERENT that does not mean that men are better than women or vice versa. Yes some things each gender is better suited to tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 12:15 AM
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I mean I feel like one should try to base their value on all aspects of their personality, achievements and accomplishments, not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 12:05 AM
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Why would you base all your value on sex though?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:56 PM
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Dude not all recreational activities have everyone participating in them whenever they want. If you wanna play football you need to find people to play with/against. If you wanna go to a movie with someone you need to find someone to go with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:55 PM
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One could argue that for most people being attractive to other people is a part of life. By this definition you're saying that gay men are also not men since they have no need/desire to be attracted to nor procreate with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:52 PM
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I'd actually argue that despite such a traumatic thing happening doesn't make her not a virgin. Here's why: Ok so we can all agree that you need to have sex to not be a virgin anymore right? Well, rape isn't sex. Rape is rape. Rape = no sex, no sex = no "loss" of virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:51 PM
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Exactly. And while people have certainly died from dehydration or starvation, I have yet to see an instance where someone has died (not committed suicide, mind you) from not getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:49 PM
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Dude. I don't care what you believe. You could think that you're King of the Rabbits and march along demanding carrots as sacrifices I don't give a fuck. I'm not "fleeing" or whatever the fuck I'm just tired of having to spell out the same old stuff. It gets boring. I've also had my views challenged often, sometimes daily, by friends, family, associates, etc. Please elaborate on your claim that men and women aren't equal due to factors surrounding pregnancy so I can suss out exactly what you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:46 PM
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WE'LL CRACK YER FUKIN HEAD OPEN I SWEAR ON ME MUM
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:39 PM
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I'm not going to try to discuss things with people that tell me my opinion is the result of me being "brainwashed" or whatever the fuck, because god forbid I be able to form an independent opinion different from yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:10 PM
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Whatever you say sweetheart
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:01 PM
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Who is this person I want a friend
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 10:53 PM
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ANARCHY!!!!! 5 sec later: Bro lets hug it out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 10:52 PM
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"You can do anything except sex with your friends." False. Friends with benefits are a thing. Also you could also choose not to have sex with your romantic partner because you wanna wait until marriage/don't feel comfortable right now/religious reasons, etc. So, now that THAT misconception is cleared up. People are dating when both parties say they are dating. Everyone has a different definition of dating therefore trying to come up with a universal definition is kinda an exercise in futility. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 10:20 PM
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Dude the plus is for us. And if they don't like it, FUCK THEM (figuratively not literally lol ace jokes). I'm sure they'd be happy to have you! And yeah, trust me I get the not being able to relate to the 99% dude. Sometimes being the 1% isn't exactly all it's cracked up to be. I just try to focus on other things. It does make me anxious at times and sometimes keeps me up at night, but by talking to others it's helped me a little. Have you looked up or been active on AVEN? www.asexuality.org
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:50 PM
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No dude I'm not talking about shoe fuckers or whatever I'm talking about people who WANT to fuck but are CHOOSING not to fuck for religious reasons/just want to wait/saving self for marriage/not feeling like losing it currently/haven't found the right person yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:43 PM
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Ok but WHY is it so important? To guys especially. It's just a thing that happens, who gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:41 PM
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It's times like this I wish I wasn't broke and could break out some sweet Reddit gold for ya
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:40 PM
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Bruh I seriously doubt that has happened. Most people watch/look at porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:38 PM
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Stop Using Men's Maleness To Excuse Their Actions 20Forever
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:37 PM
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Dude have you ever considered that a woman's "stamp of approval" or whatever the fuck is not solely limited to sex? A girl could be in a relationship with a guy but want to wait to have sex, and the relationship ends before they do the do. She approved of him enough to date him, that sound a hell of a lot like approval to me! Or are you so one track minded that sex is the only "seal of approval" you'll accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:33 PM
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Wow honey you sound really bitter. Also that's kind of a false equivalency. Hookups do not equal relationships in most cases. Hookups are by definition casual, no strings attached, sometimes impulsive, just blowing off steam. Relationships on the other hand are more serious, and have long term potential, and could even end up as marriages. Hence the "making them wait" vetting etc since hookups you can usually never see again but in a relationship you and your SO will be around each other a lot. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:30 PM
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DUDE HI IM ACE TOO AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. When I was telling my friends (had to happen eventually) they looked at me like I had 3 heads. But now in college I've met 5 other ace people so I feel less alone. We aren't broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:23 PM
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Bruh hugs are the shit. Also I never understood why so many male friendships aren't as close as female friendships. Like bros should be able to hug their bros ya dig?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:21 PM
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That's kinda fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:19 PM
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Yeah but paternity tests are a thing now. You can buy them at wal mart for like 30 bucks. Also if a child needs love and protection and a father figure who cares who provides it? Yes it SHOULD be the father but I think it's a tragedy that nowadays some men are running away from fatherhood and leaving mothers and children to fend for themselves. Being a single parent is fucking hard. Children need love and protection and positive role models regardless of who's baby juice helped make them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:17 PM
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Or someone could just be choosing to stay a virgin. It's less common these days but it happens man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:15 PM
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This wasn't really a post about being DESIRED it was one about not being a virgin. Even though prostitutes et al are being paid to sleep with you, hey you're still getting slept with so BA BAM not a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:13 PM
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Wowza you made a throwaway specifically for my post I'm honored. Ok so first of all no one should judge ANYONE on their sexual history because it's not their goddamn buisness. The only time is IS their buisness if if person A and person B wanna fuck and one of them tests positive for an STD. This is not a man thing nor a woman thing nor a feminist thing nor a nonfeminist thing. Regardless of what camp you belong to judging someone about their sexual history or lack thereof is in my opinion kinda…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:10 PM
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Even though I am a born and raised American....I mixed up Utah and Nevada. Fucking hell someone revoke my citizenship. IN MY DEFENSE I made this post while half asleep late at night
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:02 PM
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Haha I'm 18 and could give less than a fuck about sex. I mean it crosses my mind but I have more important shit to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:19 AM
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I can see how desirability can definitely be a huge factor. In my main post I was only really addressing the people who lament being virgins not not being desirable, though I could see how the two could go hand in hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:18 AM
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I have a sister 3 years younger than me. I love her to death. We often introduce ourselves as twins even though we look nothing alike (she's adopted).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:34 AM
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What the fuck did I just read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:23 AM
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Thanks :) I'm not a part of TBP per se though I do subscribe to the subreddit in order to keep abreast of some of the current topics of discussion of TRP without directly diving in. I find it a refreshing, at times funny counterpoint, but I know to take it all with a grain of salt. TBP is a parody sub that exists only to counteract and oppose TBP, so I treat it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:19 AM
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I believe the vast majority of people have both positive and negative facets of their behaviors and personality. Hence, trying to put some people in the "good, desirable" box and the other in the "annoying worthless doormat" box isn't in my view the best approach. Hell, even the "nice guys" can have good qualities. A "nice guy" could be an activist against animal cruelty or repeatedly volunteer at homeless shelters, for example. Also, I've found that many TRPers try to AWALT women or put all or …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:45 AM
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It is pathetic, and I did not know that TRP teaches men not to behave in such a way. Good on them if they are trying to discourage this behavior. For the record, I don't hate TRP. I disagree with many of the assertions of some of it's members, such as "women are incapable of logical thought," "women are children and have no responsibilities," "women face no hardship" and the whole alpha-beta dichotomy. I also disagree with some of the often extreme views on relationships, divorce, domestic viole…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:11 AM
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It is 100% their personal choice, and I would try not to judge them for it. The fact remains, however, that by choosing to return to their abusers they are often placing themselves, and their children if they have them, in immediate danger. There is a difference between judging someone and being concerned for their health and safety. It's not as thought I'd be saying "Oh, you're terrible for going back to him after what he did to you, you're a horrible, stupid person, you deserve it if he does i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:06 AM
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Happy cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 01:27 AM
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This is textbook manipulation and abuse. It's sickening, and its unacceptable. If you find yourself in a situation like this, get out NOW. It's usually only a matter of time before breaking your things becomes breaking your bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 01:12 AM
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Source your claims please dearie. Also, I made a list a while back about important inventions women have contributed including the first computer language, the refrigerator, central heating, and contributed essential research in many areas of STEM fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 01:09 AM
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I...wasn't trying to pressure you? I'm just saying that there's a huge difference between a man fantasizing about being with a woman and thinking they could be together and actual delusions that are a part of many serious mental illnesses such as BPD ("manic" delusions including thinking one is rich/a celebrity), schizophrenia, narcissistic personality disorder and other such illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 01:06 AM
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To clarify for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 12:57 AM
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Certified feminist reporting in, your claim is bullshit. And yes, just as there are extreme members of any group, be it religious, political, and even RP, there are extreme, batshit crazy feminists out there. The majority of us just try to minimize contact wit them as they don't to anything except spew ridiculous nonsense and give the rest of us a bad name.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 12:57 AM
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In my view there's a difference between actual nice guys and "nice guys." The actual nice guy is exactly what you described, trying to be a kind, good human and friend with little to no expectation. The only expectation (if any, some are just Good Samaritans and expect nothing) these guys have is kindness in return, and help in return (IMPORTANT NOTE: THIS KINDNESS OR HELP EXPECTED IS NOT SEXUAL). This is perfectly reasonable, everyone deserves to be treated with kindness and respect. Now, this …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 12:53 AM
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Bless you for pursuing this line of inquiry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 12:36 AM
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I'm of the view she can certainly offer things of value, just as all people can. She can offer financial assistance, good company, advice, a sounding board for his troubles, a shoulder to cry on, assistance with work or education if she's specialized or has experience in those fields, even advice from a woman's perspective if he shows interest in other women. The thing is she's not offering the thing he really wants. Does that mean she offers nothing? In my view, no. Just because someone doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 12:34 AM
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I know you probably meant no harm here, but please refrain from trivializing the mentally ill. While thinking that one can be in a relationship with someone unavailable is certainly a mild delusion or fantasy, it does not at all constitute a mental illness in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 12:26 AM
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This is weird but 73 is one of my lucky numbers so you unintentionally just made my day better thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 12:24 AM
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The problem with your scenario is that the man did something embarrassing that includes or could include abusing her. The abused should never go back to their abusers. If the man lost her for reasons other than that, such as losing his job, etc, I could see how him trying to win her back would be a reasonable course of action. Hell even if he cheated on her, which I find deplorable from a moral standpoint, would be better than abusing her. If the man is trying to win back a woman that he did in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 12:18 AM
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False equivalency isn't a good look on you honey
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:14 PM
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Um....not trying to be offensive here but your whole post kinda gives off an air of pompous self righteousness. You claim your world "does not revolve around (your) own self importance" and yet you come across as VERY self important in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:18 AM
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May I ask why women's promiscuity is inherently "gross" to you? Do you have the same views concerning male promiscuity? Also you cannot do shit in the great scheme of things. You're not some gifted wonderkid destined to change the world and the entire way society works bro. If you actually think this I would seriously consider getting treatment for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:07 AM
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There is no such thing as implied consent. There is only consent (a consistent, vocal, confident verbal yes) and not consent. There can be situations that have sexual undertones of course, but the idea of "implied consent" is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:00 AM
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So you think it's impossible for a man to want to spend time with or be around a woman without him wanting to fuck her? Seriously, dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:58 AM
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For the employer thing: If I'm at a job, I'm there because I want to be there. The job I currently have, being a server at a fancy hotel along with being a full time student, is hard work, but I like it a lot because of the people I work with and the interesting events we help run. Also, since I'm getting paid, I'm being compensated for my work, which means I benefit from the arrangement. So, although I will have supervisors and superiors at work, I do not feel inferior as it's something I actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:27 AM
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....or I think people should not judge others for the way they choose to present themselves, including men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:06 PM
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Yep! And even people who are younger or older than me. And in terms of kids I'm going to adopt no matter what so I'll probably have a couple of kids of my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:36 PM
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Yes because advocating for beating up someone, especially someone who is most likely weaker and has less power than you, is fucking hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:33 PM
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Guys didn't hit girls in the 1950s? Please tell me you're joking. The 1950s SUCKED and DV didn't even become a prosecutable offense until the 1970s. DV cases only went to court (if at all) if the woman was actually murdered, and those are rare cases. In some states like California it was actually ILLEGAL to prosecute men for DV, as it was seen as "sex discrimination." THAT'S how normalized DV was. In the 40s and 50s, shame kept most from speaking out which contributed to the illusion of idyllic …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:03 PM
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Couple of reasons: Fear. I'm not so cocky as to claim that nothing ever scares me. While I tend to have a bit of a higher tolerance for dangerous situations that others (for reasons I'd rather not go into), I certainly don't like them one bit. I tend to distrust strangers naturally, so someone yelling obscene things at me sets off all sorts of warning bells in my head. Even though it's probably unlikely, the fact remains that it's entirely possible that a man catcalling me would act on the desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:55 PM
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Nope!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:47 PM
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What kind of ideology preaches "not showing weakness" jfc. No wonder lots of TeRPers seem so angry all the time. When you bottle things up like that and try to live a lie it just isn't healthy. It's similar in a way to online dating and getting "catfished" I suppose. You think you're talking to this amazing, funny, successful, and lets face it, attractive person but then when you pull off their digital mask their true self is quite lackluster compared to the image they presented online. When you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:47 PM
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I would rather spend a lifetime with only friends and family than get "HEY! NICE TITS!" screamed at me, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:16 PM
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Lol only the last one applies to me but I'd pick being invisible over being catcalled any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:47 PM
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There is no reason for anyone to be physically abusive. At all. Ever. Unless someone is actively, physically attacking you, there is no reason to be violent. In terms of emotional abuse, currently there isn't much in the law from my understanding prosecuting it unless it's coupled with other types of abuse or incites someone to commit suicide. So in your semi-ridiculous scenario ("raised in a compound by misandrists?" Being taught that physical abuse only happens with a woman holding a bazooka? …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:24 PM
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Oh boy I made the list! I'd like to thank the Academy, the denizens of PPD, and my mom for this tremendous honor. In your link to my comment you state, "Women don't dress/stay in shape for the approval and validation of men, they do it to lord over other women lol, get over yourself." You claim this is a "translated from hamster speak" (whatever the fuck that is) summation of my original commentary. Believe it or not my man, that is not at all what I am/was saying! Instead I was proposing the ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:14 PM
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I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or serious...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:18 PM
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But why would you even tell her that in the first place? I know I for one wouldn't want to be with someone who didn't like my appearance or me presenting myself in a way I feel comfortable. For example, I HATE heels. I'm over 5'10" and already clumsy, the last thing I need is to balance on two tiny spikes all day. If a guy told me, "Oh I don't like that you don't wear heels" or flat out "You should wear heels" would I do it? Would I replace my tennis shoes with Prada shoes? Hell fucking no. I re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:22 AM
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And that "lie" would be? Please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:08 AM
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I think you meant to say "gross in your opinion in terms of not fitting your personal preferences" not gross in general. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:07 AM
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I'm trying not to. He just (likely through little to no fault of his own) kinda comes off as a little entitled as I get the sense he actually thinks women are striving to put forth massive amounts of effort to appear bangable to him, not trying to present themselves in a way that makes them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:05 AM
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I mean, you do claim to be representative of the average man but I'm not so sure that's the case. I've found that there's so much variation in individuals that deducing the "average man's" preferences can be a bit of an exercise in futility. For example, an "average man" could like large rear ends and big boobs but love tattoos, another could prefer flat chested girls, yet another goes crazy over chubby girls with short hair. In addition, there is often little that a woman can do to change the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:03 AM
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I wrote that story from the perspective of a woman who was considering getting tattoos and piercings, and really wanted to, but was discouraged from doing so out of fear of rejection or the mistaken belief if she did such a thing the vast majority of people would want nothing to do with her. Still, I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:46 AM
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I'm not offended here actually nor looking to preach. It's just when you say stuff like "if women wish to appear sexually pleasing to me" you make it seem like it's a goal someone would actually have. Unless a woman is super into you, she's probably just gonna keep doing her own thing anyway. Not every woman out there is gonna be like "Oh I must stop working out and lose my muscles and grow out my hair and get laser tattoo removal to meet the standards u/Jacks_lack_of_trying has for his wank mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:43 AM
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I'm not saying this is the toughest choice she's ever had. I'm just saying that oftentimes, even though many of us would like to adopt a "I don't give a fuck what other people think" attitude, the fact of the matter is that the majority of us are influenced by other's views of us and perceptions of us. Hence, it's entirely possible that due to this one could feel like they were unable to express themself authentically out of fear of rejection from friends, family, lovers, society, etc. Like I sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:37 AM
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Honest question here: Have you ever considered that how women choose to present themselves is 100% their personal decision and what you think doesn't have anything to do with it? Hear me out. I honestly can't tell here if you're just stating what you personally find attractive or if you're presenting some sort of grotesque "guidelines" for what women must do to make you sexually attracted to them. If it's the former, please keep in mind that some of the thing you may not find attractive (such as…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:03 AM
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To be honest, I really hope that men who are like this are few and far between, if they truly exist at all. A person like this would to me at least be terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 10:26 PM
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Ok honeybun! You have a fantastic sunshine filled day now! (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 11:14 PM
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Get catcalled? Just shoot them. Murder them in cold blood. Because that make a fuck ton of sense. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:42 PM
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Sweetheart, u/Iamyourmarriage already made a male-specific thread on here. In fact, it was posted earlier than this one. Here it is for your viewing pleasure. As you can see, it isn't "unfair" at all. No need to get your boxers in a twist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:41 PM
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Oh no honey. No. We don't get extra years of life because the "world is safer for us." We tend to live longer because we basically have 2 copies of sex-specific genes. As anyone who's taken a biology course knows, humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes which house our genes. Of these pairs, 22 are autosomes (not sex specific and occur in every person) while one set is sex specific. While there are other combinations of sex chromosomes (trisomy combos like XXX, XXY, XYY), the most common combination…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:36 PM
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But the thing is, men do get "pushed off the edge" by rejection. Elliot Rodger is an excellent example. He explicitly states in his "manifesto" that he was vowing to "destroy everything he could not have." Another example comes from when a high school aged boy fatally stabbed a girl for refusing to go to prom with him. Now this is not to say that all men are so deranged. But the fact that these men exist is enough to plant the seed of doubt in most women's minds that rejecting a man could be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:04 PM
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This is in no way judging the entire male gender. It's obvious to anyone that the vast, VAST majority of men are kind and respectful of the wishes of the opposite sex, and would never resort to such violence. However, the fact remains that incidents like this occur quite frequently. The links I listed were just a few of the results yielded by simply looking up "women attacked for rejecting men." The entire process took around 5 minutes. 5 minutes to gather over a dozen horrific stories of violen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:56 PM
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That women around the world risk them or their loved ones being attacked or killed for rejecting men. You wanna know why women tend not to be straightforward, why women say "I have a boyfriend," why women lie about not being available? This is why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 08:18 PM
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Happy Birthday!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 08:02 PM
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No. I'm not saying that 100% verified IGN rated 10/10 Snopes confirmed in a doubleblind study that what you say happened didn't happen honey. I'm just saying, like all stories on the internet, things can be untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 07:47 PM
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No honey. Just no. No. I'm not doing anything of that sort, "explicitly" or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 07:38 PM
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Men's rights are bad for women: Supporting the rights of men isn't bad. But like all movements the Men's Rights Movement has drawn criticism for the misogynistic language and violence against women in "retaliation" that many of it's extreme members call for, such as Elliot Rodger, the guy who shot up sorority row in Santa Barbara and included quotes in his 137 page manifesto such as "The girls don't flock to the gentlemen. They flock to the alpha male...Who's the alpha male now, bitches?" Mother…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 04:48 PM
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Gonna respond to all of these from a feminist perspective for shits and giggles now Foreskin is gross: It's a natural part of the body guys, you can like it or not, but it's still there, no need to shame it. Short guys are pathetic: Why are you calling someone pathetic about something they have no control over? Jfc people. Men are pigs: That's a really really negative statement, it's the equivalent of saying "women are bitches" and it's very rude. Man up: This enforces negative masculine stereot…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 04:48 PM
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...or I just read the post and disagreed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:30 PM
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If half of all crimes are committed by women, yes, then half of all prisoners would be women. In terms of your other groups however, there will most likely continue to be differences between the sexes, so an even 50-50 split would be unlikely (for example, although women attempt suicide more frequently, men are more likely to succeed at committing suicide).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:30 PM
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If I was in his shoes, of course I'd be beyond upset. I can understand why he's lashing out in the way he is, even though that doesn't mean such hurtful and misogynistic language is justifiable. He is in pain, and I understand and respect that. If his story is true, he has obviously been hurt very badly by a lot of women. Cheating is in my opinion never justified, and false accusations are certainly deplorable. I acknowledge his pain, and I also acknowledge that it's entirely possible that he tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:25 PM
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If what he's saying is true, then yes he had a shitty fucking ex. That sort of behavior is obviously unacceptable. I'm not saying that he was responsible for them cheating, it's most likely that they did so of their own accord. The only thing I'm saying here is that when one goes and attacks half the population, it doesn't really do anyone much good. It also just strikes me as slightly suspicious that throughout all the misfortunes he has endured he claims that none of it was at least slightly h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:19 PM
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Oh boy, a redditor calling for domestic violence on my thread! JOY! Just the fucking thing I like to wake up to. As someone who has been beaten bloody on multiple occasions by a man over fucking YEARS, fuck you. How dare you call for such a horrific display of violence. And you do it...because someone doesn't agree with you? Get the fuck off my thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:31 PM
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I'm not saying it's his fault necessarily. I'm just saying that he's admitted that his view of women is incredibly negatively biased, hence any re-tellings of stories involving women will have a large negative slant. Stories can be twisted around when the go through incredibly biased brains before being told, that's just a fact. As a result, I don't think it's to unreasonable to look at his claims that half the goddamn human race is responsible for all his misfortune without he himself taking a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:25 PM
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Um...do you feel qualified to speak on the behalf of the majority of women? No offense, but we can kinda speak and think for ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:18 PM
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Thanks, whoops I mean horrific screeching noises
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:17 PM
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Who can throw down? Meet me in the pit motherfucker. It's Thunderdome time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:06 AM
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WAIT A SECOND THATS TOM HARDY?????? I much prefer Mad Max Tom Hardy over that picture omg. I didn't even recognize him with that huge beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:47 AM
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Bruh you need to consider going into writing scripts for action movies. Even though I don't agree with 90% of this from a logical standpoint I don't even care because I'm a motherfucking velociraptor fuck yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:40 AM
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YAY EXPERIMENTS!!!! This dude looks familiar is he an actor or something? I don't generally like really muscly guys but I don't mind him. I actually laughed out loud. My roommate is looking at me like a crazy person. His eyes look like he's been to war. I generally don't like facial hair. He's ok other than that, but something about his nipples are just throwing me off idk what it is. Awww what a cutie! His head looks too big for his body. Maybe if he had a bit of a different haircut he'd be a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:37 AM
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Dude, I tried, I'm done. I'm not defending them. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:31 AM
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...I'm not an "it."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:26 AM
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Could be does not mean is dude. I have the right to take a biased story from a biased viewpoint with a grain of salt. And, again I will say it, men are not responsible for female behavior. I'll shout it from the motherfucking rooftops if it'll make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:25 AM
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Rest assured, I am most definitely not arguing that men are responsible for how women behave. I even explicitly said that to Fletcher himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:20 AM
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Sweetheart... I'm not saying men are responsible for how women behave. I believe firmly that everyone is responsible for their own actions. That being said, your story is kinda far fetched. 8 exes cheating on you. Two therapists saying "all relationship issues stem from men not being good enough." Being falsely accused. That's a huge crock of shit to go through, and if it's true I'm sorry. But TWO therapists EXPLICITLY SAYING that "men not being good enough" are the cause of all relationship woe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:18 AM
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.......where did I say that? I'm just saying you kinda have the tendency to not take any responsibility for your own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:07 AM
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Actually I'm a lady and not a troll at all haha. But then again there are no girls on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:05 AM
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No because you don't shut the fuck up about how of course you could never be the issue, because heaven forbid maybe you have a role in your misfortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:04 AM
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This just in, redditor u/FletcherReedAMA is the be all and end all of judging all us mortals and our opinions and thoughts. Praise be. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:01 AM
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Saw it, replied accordingly. He's a strange lil fella.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:55 AM
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Summoning u/Atlas_B_Shruggin come get your husbando on the phone here to help my feeeeble feeeeeeeeemale brain do math
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:52 AM
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u/Iamyourmarriage you're trying to argue with a wall here. All my encounters with this fine specimen have rapidly devolved into nonsensical hatred. Unless you wanna give yourself a migraine I wouldn't bother. If you decide to soldier on, I applaud your efforts, but sadly some people are just too wrapped up in their idea that they could never ever be wrong to put forth a logical argument. That being said, his lunacy is proving your point nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:49 AM
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Honey, I don't give a flying fuck about explaining jack shit to you. I don't debate unarmed opponents and I know my words would fall on deaf ears. I'm just saying, it's a littttttle more reasonable to think of oneself being responsible for one's actions as opposed to blaming 3.5 billion people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:44 AM
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This just in, redditor u/FletcherReedAMA is incapable of understanding sarcasm, more news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:40 AM
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I actually made an extensive list a while back of women scientists and inventors who made essential contributions to science and technology, essentially negating your first assertion that men are the "creators." Also I have no fucking clue where you're getting the misconception that "~evolution~" made men "~superior~" to women. Different does not equal superior/inferior my man. I also disagree with your claims that women are manipulative, selfish, have their needs taken care of by "daddy governm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:39 AM
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Women eat toilet paper to produce the pheromones that help us attract Chads and Brads, didn't you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:33 AM
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Oh boy my favorite redditor is back at it again. You're obviously very angry. You even called me a "braindead child" because I have two X chromosomes instead of an X and a Y. And unfortunately for all those who must be subjected to your caustic vitriol, your overwhelmingly negative and, let's call a spade a spade here, derogatory and hateful view of women isn't likely to change anytime soon. But...if you've had so much misfortune in your life and dealt with a false accusation, has it ever occurr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:32 AM
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I'm not trying to shame anyone, I'm just saying in the eyes of most people 30, 40, 50+ year old men preferring women in the 16-21 age range kinda draws some red flags for most people given the huge difference in age, maturity and life experience there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:26 AM
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Damn right hahaha. The sovereign ruler of a planet populated solely by robots and possibly some bacteria. At least my subjects aren't gonna complain much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:24 AM
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Awwwwwww thank you so much!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:23 AM
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Even though this was long it was a pleasure to read. Rare to find mostly neutral analysis these days. A+
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:22 AM
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I already read that post and have judged it to be complete and utter bullshit, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:43 AM
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DIS DICK
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:33 AM
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Summoning u/protopill and u/thegreasypole from the depths of the interwebs! Pleaseeee help me a feeeeeble feeeeeeeeeemale do the maths! Numbers are harrrrrd especially when my boobs keep flopping around riding the cock carousel
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:14 AM
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I mean I'm of the view that all people have equal value regardless of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:10 AM
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I dunno, I am a stupid woman and my uterus keeps my lady brain from thinking good. A strong, logical, rational ALPHA manly man would be a better person to ask, silly me!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:08 AM
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Ah, that makes a lot more sense, thank you for elaborating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:07 AM
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.....implied slight pedophilia aside, care to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:06 AM
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I don't look down on prostitutes in the slightest. Also I have no idea where you're getting the "more honest than your average woman" stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:05 AM
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The acceptable size is 36 WU (watermelon units), or if you're unamerican and use the metric system 250 DU (dachshund units).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:00 AM
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And why are there "no alpha or beta women" as you say? And what behaviors do you say are based on AWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:57 PM
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Everyone has rights and responsibilities, "great power" a la Spiderman, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:41 PM
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Interesting. Can you elaborate in terms of women basing more value on social status and reputation? Also yeah, everyone sucks at least a lil bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:40 PM
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So you think you can divide all men into 2 groups of qualities and yet all women automatically only exhibit one kind of behavior? Methinks this might not be the best approach. If one insists on using "alpha" and "beta" for men, why not do the same for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:38 PM
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It isn't easy which is exactly why I made this thread. It's always interesting to see people try though, so the thread is here to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:37 PM
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Not me! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:34 PM
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It's obviously a complex issue. But I still think that vigorous training could level the playing field in terms of putting most people on the same level of ability in terms of strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:33 PM
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I just replied to something along these lines, so I'm just gonna copy paste: In an ideal world, the gender ratio among a specific population should be reflected exactly in the workforce for that said job/field position. For example, if one had a group of mechanical engineers with the same qualifications, but the group was comprised of 70% men and 30% women, in an ideal world a company with a subdivision of mechanical engineers hiring from this group should end up with 70% of their positions bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:32 PM
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In an ideal world, the gender ratio among a specific population should be reflected exactly in the workforce for that said job/field position. For example, if one had a group of mechanical engineers with the same qualifications, but the group was comprised of 70% men and 30% women, in an ideal world a company with a subdivision of mechanical engineers hiring from this group should end up with 70% of their positions being filled by men and 30% of their positions being filled by women. The 50/50 s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:30 PM
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Physiological differences are a bitch. That being said, I think more vigorous training for those who are weaker in general could also help level the playing field. The weaker ones could also serve in more administrative roles or as roles such as pilots, medics, etc, not necessarily ground troops.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:27 PM
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Now that I have considered lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:24 PM
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Figure of speech my man. Not for sale.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:23 PM
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I know it's ridiculous to think of any group in terms of generalizations, yet some do as we've seen. Just trying to suss out what those generalizations those individuals make are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:23 PM
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Interesting. I find the whole concept of "~alphas~" and "~betas~" complete nonsense, btw, but thats a story for another day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:22 PM
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The ability to advance oneself through higher education, being able to advance through hard work in a company or the workforce, being able to raise a family, having the same rights as others, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:20 PM
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OK well my existence kinda proves that wrong....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:20 PM
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I've said this before and I'll say it again, even thought I don't support the draft or selective service, only forcing one sex to register is antiquated in my view as it implies that women are not competent enough to be considered as potential soldiers. Hell yes, if there must be a selective service registration requirement, it must apply to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:19 PM
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I mean one could make the case very easily that all people, men included, are predictable but whatevs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:17 PM
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All women are like....what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:08 PM
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So you're saying that...every woman has considered prostitution. I mean I'm a bona-fide certified grade-A vagina having female and the thought has never crossed my mind, but whatevs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:08 PM
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Since this is my post I might as well get the ball rolling: Men and women are different, yet equally capable of logical thought and rationale. They may go about things differently but they all have the same capacity to think logically as well as the same moral capacity for good and evil. They should be considered 100% equal and have access to the same rights and opportunities, but unfortunately that currently isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:06 PM
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Whoops didn't mean to invoke the wrath of the gods...I mean mods. Abridging text now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:06 PM
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Explain what you mean by responsibilities please. Also you didn't really answer the question. Give me an answer, dímelo, por favor dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:04 PM
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Again, not telling anyone what to do here, just offering suggestions. Anyone can look at them and take them or leave them. I'm not trying to be backhanded about it or "lead people to their own beliefs" or fool them into thinking the ideas were their own and "reinforce" their ego. He asked for straightforward advice, I gave him straightforward advice to the best of my ability using my views and life experiences. He can do with this advice as he pleases.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:34 PM
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I think that the people who are into casual sex and hookups would actually be the happiest because they would be able to find likeminded people. More sex, YAY! Those looking for relationships might have a bit more trouble depending on their age/stage in life, since it's pretty common that younger people aren't looking for a serious relationship as much as older people. In terms of people stating their desires, I feel like people with uncommon fetishes might have a really hard time outside fetish…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:31 PM
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Honey........please please see a therapist if you actually think that women are inherently dishonest or that women "deal almost exclusively in illusions." I don't know who hurt you but it's obvious you have a lot of anger inside, especially anger towards women. That stuff isn't healthy and I urge you to seek professional help.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:24 PM
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Not sure what Charles Manson let alone feminism has to do with any of this, but I wasn't trying to order him around or any bullshit like that. He asked for advice, I gave it. Whether he takes that advice is up to him. I presented my thoughts as suggestions, not mandates. I presented courses of action that in my view would not only make him feel better about himself, but would also probably lead to him having more friends and having those who he associates with think of him as a kind and good per…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:16 PM
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Hi there! Lady and fellow engineer reporting for duty. First of all, I'm gonna be honest with you dude, you sound kinda bitter. Like really, really bitter. You claim to be a "nice guy" but then stereotype athletic guys that most women are attracted to as "meat-headed jerks on steroids." That's not very nice, now is it? You need to learn to let go of that bitterness and understand that getting angry, especially at half the population, won't really get you anywhere. In fact, it'll probably do more…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 04:08 PM
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This just made me smile so much thank you Tempest
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:35 AM
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IIII SHOT THE SHERIFF BUT I DID NOT SHOOT THE DEPUTY
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:48 PM
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First it'll start out like all good parties, with fancy hors d'oeuvres and shots. The RP men will immediately try out their "~alpha game~" on any women in the room. A few (read: like 2) will be affected, most will just roll their eyes. A drink or two may be thrown if "negging" occurs. The lovely RPW will swap recipes with avid bakers and cooks in the room. They will also probably be the best dressed. I will find the best damn mac and cheese recipe ever thanks to their efforts. The feminists will…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:26 AM
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Are you...me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:57 AM
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The ending though.... shots fired
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:55 AM
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3 BS degrees?!?! Christ I'm working on 2 and I'm already swamped, you must either work really hard or have a death wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 05:49 PM
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SMP/SMV: Eh, maybe they're valid concepts, maybe not. AF/BB: Bullshit CC: Definitely bullshit Hypergamy: Bull fucking shit The Wall: I mean menopause and aging is a thing but if someone bases so much of their self worth on attention from the opposite sex in my view they kinda didn't have much going for them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 03:44 AM
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Ok you had me up until you mentioned that girl "going out with a friend behind your back." Huh? If you weren't with her in a relationship how the hell was it "behind your back?" She's single, she can date who she wants, same as you if you were single. By choosing to date your friend instead of you you make it seem as though she was committing some grave sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:23 PM
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May your memes be dank and your misogyny be minimal my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 06:43 AM
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3edgy 5me my feeeeble feeeeeemale brain can't take it. Quick better buy hawt slutty lingerie for Brad the Quarterback in order to cope
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 06:41 AM
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Hey, we may be weirdos but we're your reddit weirdos, amiright guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 06:38 AM
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Hurrrrr durr durrr I am woman my lady brain no think good durr durrrrrr I only want moneyz and chad thundercock to rail me durrrrhurrdurrrrr /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 04:11 AM
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I'm...I'm not even gotta waste the time typing something out to show you how wrong you are. You've obviously got a lot of anger inside, and vilifying half the population illogically and senselessly isn't gonna do you any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 04:03 AM
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Anyone who cheats on their SO is, in my opinion, pretty scummy, as you can see from my post history. That being said, stuff like "women aren't worth anything" kinda isn't true either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:46 AM
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Buh bye then! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:20 AM
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If anyone needs that much attention and wants to keep it that badly, that's just shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:19 AM
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Well thats...interesting.......
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:18 AM
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Well consider the source my man. Feeeeemale reporting for duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:08 AM
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As long as you keep being logical and using facts WAY TO GO!!! Keep fightin the good fight of rationalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:07 AM
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Yeah the possibility of gettin all murdered and shit isn't exactly much of an "incentive" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:06 AM
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Obviously I do but I'm not seeing much debating from your end, jut nitpicking and mincing words. Plus this isn't even a debate thread my dude. Now this origin story of yours should be pretty interesting, so start tippy tappin it out if you wanna actually contribute constructively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:04 AM
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Yeah, that's why I said you have to talk about this sort of thing with your partner. Some people aren't gonna want an equal relationship, and as long as the other person consents to that that's a-ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:03 AM
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99% sure you're kidding but you never know...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:01 AM
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Wow can I relate to this one. Religion is a hell of a drug. I don't mind it and I consider myself Christian but I also remember that the same book that tells me to be a good person also has God send a bear to eat 42 kids for making fun of a bald guy. You gotta take it with a grain of salt sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:01 AM
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In my view masculinity is a concept that is seated upon various accepted traits and presentations that can be used to describe individuals of any sex or gender. It's something we made up, and in my view since it's basically a social construct there's no reason that it should set people apart any more than the billions and trillions of differences that exist between individuals. That being said, if you wanna "be a man," go be a man! You wanna be as masculine as possible in the most stereotypical …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:58 AM
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Oh come on now you're better than being pedantic. I said that because respect is important in the vast majority of relationships. Of fucking course there are going to be exceptions, theres over seven goddamn billion people on the planet. I made ONE statement speaking in GENERAL TERMS. Do you expect to get anywhere by doing this or are you just here to point out minutia in my communications for shits and giggles?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:52 AM
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Well given my lack of male-ness I don't think I'll ever truly understand but I assume being a decent human being with hopes and dreams and ambitions factors in, yknow being a person who respects their elders and their peers, who works hard and strives to be the best they can be. Basic human shit. EDIT: Still waitin on that origin story of yours
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:42 AM
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Dude if thats what you want thats what you want and that's a-ok. But just don't assume everyone else wants the same thing. You gotta have these kinda talks with your partner, and until you do equal treatment is usually a safe bet. Now where's your origin story?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:41 AM
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Not sure what "be(ing) a fucking man" has to do with RP but whatevah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:33 AM
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Oh wow, suicide? That's heavy. And even though it sounds STD-ish sex positive is just not demonizing sex/casual sex/hookups lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:16 AM
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If you mean "tactics" like treating an adult woman like a child or a teenager or bullshit claims about women not being rational, hell fucking no. If you mean improving oneself and becoming confident, if it works without hurting anyone, great.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:14 AM
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Good on you for resisting misogyny. Hate only begets more hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:12 AM
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Bruh anyone who bases their self worth on the opposite sex needs some attitude adjustments, good on you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:11 AM
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Hey as long as you respect your partner and see them as an equal, if you're improving your relationship more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:09 AM
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Whoa. I just read all that and I feel for you, you've clearly been through some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:09 AM
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Honesty is the best policy my dude. But then again, we're taught rejection is rude. Also it gets us stabbed and generally murdered sometimes too soooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:57 AM
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Ayyyy but what if all these pills are the same color we just all see different colors hits blunt
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:56 AM
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Yo I'm as feminist and liberal as they come and saying one group is always right while another is always wrong is bullshit. Thought I doubt that's necessarily what they were saying all the time ya feel me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:43 AM
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shoots finger guns ayyyy this guy gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:41 AM
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I hope you're kidding but unfortunately there's so much ridiculousness on this sub sometimes that one can't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:33 AM
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Hey, I'm a firm believer that 99% of people can get laid every weekend with the right combination of alcohol, drugs, money and prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:32 AM
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I would be SO FUCKING DOWN for this. I'd wear a t-shirt that has "CAUTION: FEMINIST" emblazoned on it for identification purposes. Oh and I'd bring cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:08 AM
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I want a jet I'm in
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:05 AM
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Ayyyy I got ENTP-A (The Debater)... not surprising haha. Feeeeeemale, and not red at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 01:04 AM
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Or she's in an abusive relationship in which the man has slowly robbed her of her independence and ability to control her money and finances, leaving her in a position where she has no power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:30 PM
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If the choice boils down to "Sleep with me or I'll leave you penniless and/or homeless" that sounds a hell of a lot like a threat to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:05 PM
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I actually hadn't read your post on dread before, but I have now. And while yes, the wife has the ability to refuse, you're not taking into account the circumstances, financial, legal or otherwise, that could force her hand. If she doesn't want to have sex, no one can make her. But if by not having sex she loses her safety and security, she has no choice. THAT is where the problem is. I'm not talking about circumstances like "Oh if I don't sleep with him he'll cheat on me." I'm talking about cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:02 PM
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There is in my view a HUGE difference in wanting to work on a relationship and being forced to perform out of necessity. If a couple has a failing marriage and the man tells his wife he feels sexually unsatisfied, and she WANTS to help save their marriage by satisfying them sexually, then hell yes she is consenting. They're being honest about their issues and trying to work through them, which is awesome. Communication is key, and always the best route. The problem occurs when the woman, for one…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 07:49 PM
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Yes but what about finances? What if ending the relationship will leave her high and dry, penniless, possibly caring for children. What if for the good of her children and herself she has no choice but to give in to his demands, regardless of whether or not she actually wants to perform sexual acts with him? Surely you can't say that she isn't performing those sexual acts under duress.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:31 AM
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Honestly, I've been unable to come up with a metric that negates differences in perspective. Trust me it's been on my mind as I've been preparing to introduce this idea for the past couple of days but unfortunately I don't see how personal bias and preference can be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:31 AM
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Yes but defending a claim does not make it legitimate in all circumstances. Just as you could make the argument that casual sex does not lead to happiness in some people does not mean this is true for all people. Conversely, just as casual sex makes some happy that is not true in all cases. You have still presented an absolute statement, in the very same manner as u/iforgotmybucket
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:51 PM
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Ok but in your post you also made the factually absolute claim, "Casual sex does not make people happy." Also, are you going to continue any of my 3 lines of inquiry?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:44 PM
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?????? Where are you getting that quote from? It does not appear anywhere in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:41 PM
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Couple of questions here. Why do you care? Those who choose to have casual sex probably aren't having much of an effect on your life unless you're the one they're sleeping with. Why are you referring to them as "sluts"? You must admit that in our society that word has many negative connotations. And as I stated before, since those who engage in causal sex and other promiscuous behavior have little to no effect on your life, why go out of your way to use disparaging terminology? Why do you claim …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:16 PM
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So romantic. I'm swooning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 10:51 PM
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offers tissues while waving asexual pride flag solemnly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 10:48 PM
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Cheating can take away the other person's life as they know it too. The trust built up over usually years is suddenly shattered. The person cheated on feels worthless, paranoid, like a laughingstock and a failure. When you cheat you are actively pursuing your own pleasure at the expense of your partner. That is selfish. Divorce hurts, but it doesn't violate the principle of consent in monogamous relationships that states the two involved will only be involved with each other. Even if the other p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 09:23 PM
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Divorce is messy, painful, uncomfortable and heart-wrenching. But it is not a breach of contract. Divorce is, by definition, a dissolution of contract. Lets say you were taking a course that involved 1-on-1 instruction. Lets also assume that the instructor in this case only gets paid when they teach you, i.e. when you show up for classes. You sign up for the course, and in the process make a commitment to come to all classes, etc. But a couple weeks into the course, you aren't interested in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 09:19 PM
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You're absolutely right, I worded it wrong. Both parties have an obligation to leave the relationship if staying in the relationship impedes their happiness and there are issues that cannot be worked out. I guess what I'm trying to say that when there are issues that can't be solved, a BREAK UP is the solution, not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:55 AM
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While I have no idea what you're talking about in terms of a relationship being "gynocentric" or men being told their sexuality is shameful, counseling is about compromise. If a man is expecting his wife to have sex/give him blowjobs/do other sexual activities with him every day, that is an unrealistic expectation. Your spouse will not always be in the mood. In addition, having sex when not aroused can take a serious toll on the female body and result in vaginal tearing among other nasty things.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:38 AM
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If you tell your SO you are going to cheat, it is still cheating. If your SO does not consent to you having a sexual relationship with others it is cheating. You can call it "dread game" (which is in my view pretty much emotional abuse) or whatever you want. But that does NOT change the fact you are violating the contract you have with your SO, and acting against what they have consented to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:33 AM
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Is your wife peeing after sex? I know thats a weird personal question but most UTIs occur due to semen or other sexual fluids getting into the urethra, peeing flushes them out again. You could also try considering other ways of having sex, such as oral or anal. Maybe there'd be a way to cover/protect her urethra during sex? Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:24 AM
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You need to consider the other person in the relationship though. If what's "best for you" has the potential to hurt them IMMENSELY, it is my belief that your response is selfish and immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:22 AM
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While I agree that "do the least harm" is a valid path to take, and usually the correct one, I still do not support it if it means one must cheat. If a relationship is so bad that one is considering cheating to fulfill their needs, they need serious counseling. If all else fails, they need to break up. Cheating is never EVER justified, at least in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:20 AM
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No thank you lol. Not my cuppa tea
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:12 AM
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Again, still a very childish response. It DOES NOT MATTER what the other person did to you, it is NOT AN EXCUSE TO CHEAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 12:12 AM
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Whoops, meant to include that. Amending original post now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 12:11 AM
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While again I disagree with your idea that a woman cheating is somehow worse than a man, a breach of contract is still a breach of contract whether or not it affects the relationship. The people in the relationship expect the other to uphold a certain manner of conduct and behavior. Breaking this conduct breaks the contract. Now, the contract could be AMENDED, by opening the relationship for example. But the issue here is the nature of the contract you agreed to. Let's say you have a bank accoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 12:10 AM
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If Q doesn't want a divorce, but is unwilling or unable to provide P with the happiness and release they need, P has an obligation to their own happiness to break up. P's contract with the children is to love them and provide for them as a parent, be it with Q or separately from Q. Divorce is messy and especially hard on kids, but I would still view it as a better alternative than cheating. The issue here is not "least harm." The issue is "least breaches of contract and trust." While divorce hur…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 12:00 AM
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Again, your response is in my opinion is kind of juvenile. You're basically saying, "She hurt me, so I'M GONNA HURT HER BACK! I MIGHT EVEN HURT HER TWICE AS MUCH!" It's very childish. If your SO cheats on you, by all means the blame is on her. However, cheating on her in turn only worsens the situation for both of you and leads to more anger and mistrust. I would heartily suggest a breakup instead of cheating. If your SO "dead-bedrooms" you I would suggest honest conversations and therapy. Consu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:56 PM
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While I'm gonna have to disagree with your view that women think the men they want to sleep with are their "superiors," your view is kinda not taking into account the fact that cheating is a breach of a monogamous contract. Whether the man cheats or the woman cheats (assuming we are talking about a non-open heterosexual relationship), it is still a breach of contract and, in my opinion, equally bad. Cheating is in my view a betrayal of trust that your significant other will remain faithful. Who …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:50 PM
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While I understand that psychologically children tend to do better with two parents together, what about your SO? When you cheat on them, you are breaking contract, you are betraying their trust that you will keep to the terms of the contract and stay faithful. Even if your SO never finds out (which is almost impossible) this is still a breach of contract. Would you tell your SO that you were pursuing sex "on the side?" Also, would you rather hurt your SO beyond repair by cheating or break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:41 PM
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If Q is unable or unwilling to work on their issues that are denying P happiness and the release they need, I think they have an obligation to break up. Just as one cannot be forced into a relationship they do not want, I believe one cannot be forced/coerced into opening a relationship they do not want to open. If Q does not want to open the relationship in order to grant P the relief they need, no one can force Q to do so. That being said, Q also cannot force P to stay with them, since P's need…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:36 PM
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How would children affect your decision? Also I don't see where you get the idea of "being taken advantage of" by your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:22 PM
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Wow, really interesting scenario here. I feel like in a relationship, especially when kids are involved, there should be work put in by way of therapy before any sort of drastic change such as a breakup. Maybe Q has some sort of psychological block preventing them from enjoying other types of sex or having sex frequently. By going to a psychologist, couples counseling and/or a sexologist I can see these issues being explored in depth, with the help of others. Hopefully both will be able to cope,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:19 PM
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Ok but cheating because the other person cheats doesn't really solve anything. I guess what I'm asking is, would you rather just cheat and break the monogamy contract you have entered into as part of the non-open relationship, or would you just end the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:03 PM
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Interesting. What about therapy? I know couples therapy can help relationships greatly, my own parents went through it to help cope with the stress of my father being in medical school and doing his residency, and they're still happily together almost 27 years later. Also your use of the word "insist" is interesting here. What if the other party doesn't want to open the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 10:55 PM
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Yeah, in my original post I didn't really address open relationships as much. There's a HUGE difference between being in an open relationship or having escapades with others that your SO approves of and consents to, and doing things behind their back. Personally an open relationship isn't for me or something I personally would be ok with, but I've seen many instances of open relationships where both people are very happy and still feel loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 10:53 PM
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No need to applaud me. I just think feminism, like all movements, has its flaws and ways it can improve. I still support feminism, obviously, I just think it's necessary to look at the movement from an objective standpoint to find areas of weakness, so we can improve and better accomplish our goal of equality for all. EDIT: me no spell good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 12:31 AM
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Whoops, link broke. Here it is again: http://jezebel.com/5509717/domestic-violence-are-women-as-abusive-as-men Also...excuse me? Nearly having my arm broken isn't DV? Getting my face bashed in on multiple occasions isn't DV? Getting charged at with a knife and broken glass isn't DV? Having furniture thrown at me isn't DV??? I was 10 when it started. I was 16 when it ended. The only times I ever engaged him physically was to keep him from KILLING MY MOTHER, who was too weak from previous fights t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:54 PM
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Well today you've met your feminist! I think that feminism could certainly do a better job in terms of silencing and eliminating the radfems that give mainstream feminism a bad name, and that feminists should work WITH men more to end issues such as rape, catcalling and domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:49 PM
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That isn't what feminism says. In addition feminists are fighting against all domestic violence, including violence perpetrated by women against men. Many feminists are calling for the inclusion of men and male victims in the Violence Against Women Act EDIT: I think it's also worth noting that my view that domestic violence can and is perpetrated by women against men comes from the perspective of someone who was a victim of domestic violence for over 6 years, perpetrated by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:45 PM
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I don't spend all my time researching everything that has to do with feminism. I have a job and school and a life. I try my best to stay abreast of things but some things slip through the cracks. The incidents you listed are also occurring in Europe. I live in America and the news here is unfortunately not very global or eurocentric, it mainly focuses on incidents in America. Also the second part of your commentary is unclear. Were you raped? If so you have my sympathy. Also I don't understand t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:41 PM
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Did you..did you not just hear me say I support due process to protect the rights of the accused?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:33 PM
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Wow, what a beautiful reply. "Lol." So simple yet elegant. I now understand everything, thank you for such a meaningful contribution to this discussion /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:32 PM
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Not sure why not being aware of something is shocking. That being said, I think that cases like the one you've linked deserve much more publicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:31 PM
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I am sorry for what happened to you. If you look in my comments you'll know that I despise those that make false accusations, as they destroy lives and hurt actual survivors. You'll also see my views on how due process can be applied to rape accusations to protect both victims and the accused. That being said, grouping an entire section of people as "evil" doesn't do much good. I hate it when radfems apply it to men, I hate it when people apply it to feminists. I am not an evil person, sorry to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:29 PM
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Ok what the actual fuck, that lady is batshit insane. You don't solve anything by killing a whole fucking portion of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:23 PM
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Gonna be honest here: I have no clue what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:16 PM
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For me, rape is tricky. It's obviously one of the most horrendous crimes an individual can commit, and leaves both physical and psychological damage that is irreparable. Oftentimes if a condom isn't used, a rape kit can be used to collect DNA evidence. However there are issues: Many survivors are so traumatized and afraid that they don't report the rape to the police or other authorities. RAINN confirms using 2009-2010 FBI Statistics There is usually a delay between the assault and the incident …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:14 PM
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There's a difference between children and adults...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:46 PM
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I offered up said cartoon as it directly made assumptions about TRP and TRPers, including specific famous and influential individuals within those circles. I thought since it's very vehemently anti-TRP, giving TRPers and others the opportunity to discuss it's implications and possibly offer up refutations would make for an interesting discussion. The scientific evidence you're speaking of is in response to my commentary that I personally had not seen any evidence substantial enough to change my …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:43 PM
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I think the original author was commenting on how they have seen in the TRP crowd many more extreme positions than the feminist crowd, and the comic was an illustration of some of the (in many cases insane) viewpoints they had come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:34 AM
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I tend to type in a conversational style, and reflect my views as though I were having a conversation with someone face to face, hence the "um." If something makes me pause and go "wtf no???" internally, I'll usually amend my commentary to reflect that thought process. To be fair, using "srs doe" annoys me too, but I figure thats simply how you wish to present yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:32 AM
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To be perfectly honest, the idea of women forcing men to have kids they don't want is kinda a gray area for me. I think when you force someone into a situation they don't want, a situation that could be remedied and avoided, that's immoral. The idea that men have a say in the creation of their potential offspring for me weighs more heavily than bodily autonomy of women, in my view. So I think that if a man doesn't want to become the father to a child, he shouldn't have to. However, I can easily …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:30 AM
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Yes because let's insult my informal style of discussion instead of actually focusing on the issue at hand, that'll help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:22 AM
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And what's so wrong about wanting to spread the experiences of others? Also if you remain unconvinced, here's some evidence of how and why women feel threatened by men, including but not limited to stalking, online harassment, street harassment, sexual assault, and domestic violence
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:21 AM
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The analogy here isn't comparing a man to a trained animal, the analogy is that some people think men are literally incapable of controlling their sexual urges, which is an incredibly insulting position to hold. Also what the actual fuck is "training women?" You don't train people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:13 AM
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Well since you're refusing to supply the proof I've requested we'll just have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:09 AM
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Gonna have to go real quick here (even feminists need sleep!) but just wanted to reply briefly. In terms of parenthood being a choice for both the mother and the father, that is 100% true, both parents are entitled to weigh in on the decision. That being said, the fact remains that the men are not the one carrying the fetus. The men are not the ones who will have to undergo months of pain, horrible side effects like morning sickness, constipation, the inability to take many medications to allevi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:06 AM
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Not sure how not being convinced, especially by a statement with no supporting evidence presented, makes me intellectually dishonest. All I'm asking for is some examples in academic literature of the phenomenon you're commenting on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:50 AM
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Very interesting anecdote. And yes, it's unfortunate that in some societies men still have license to or even think it is acceptable to behave in such a way. That being said, it still reflects badly on Muslims worldwide, especially in more Western countries such as Canada, the USA and the UK
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:45 AM
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I'm gonna need some evidence of that, I haven't really seen anything in mainstream academic or activist literature calling for the extermination of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:43 AM
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Just gonna chime in here and say that the fetus having it's life to lose isn't necessarily accurate. I personally define life as beginning with regular brain activity, which starts around ~25 weeks. Late term abortions occuring during this time make up <1% of all abortions performed, and are usually only performed when the fetus is dead, actively dying, has so many birth defects it would not survive outside the womb, or carrying the pregnancy any further would kill the mother. Before brain activ…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:41 AM
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As I've said in other comments in this thread, unfortunately more and more people are using feminism and the feminist movement as shields for hatred, and most feminists see them for what they are, which is ridiculous and crazy. Feminism is in my eyes still a legitimate and important movement, it's just bee given a bad name by a horribly vocal and violent minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:36 AM
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I'll have to disagree with the stance that everyone is anti-feminist. And yes, many old guard feminists do oppose the new version, usually because of the batshit crazy radfems that paint all men as villainous rapists and even call for their extermination. Those radfems are usually 1. Uneducated 2. Children or 3. Former domestic violence and rape victims with misplaced and mismanaged anger due to what happened to them. A good portion of mainstream feminists see these crazy "~feminists~" for what …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:34 AM
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There's a difference in thinking strange men cannot be trusted around women and saying that all men don't have the capacity to control themselves around women. While it's natural to distrust strangers, it's very disparaging to men to think of them as base creatures acting on their every sexual desire, regardless of whether or not the other person wishes to engage in sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:28 AM
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While I agree 100% that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, I still think that the comic was accurate in terms of pointing out the ugly side of those who actively oppose feminism. There's a difference between having your own opinions and attacking those who don't agree with you. What I've seen from many who oppose feminism is just outright attacks on the movement, sometimes with shockingly offensive sexist and racist undertones. And while yes, there are radfems who attack and generalize, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:26 AM
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The men in question here are a minority group. The men who think rape is acceptable are certainly a minority. The above commentary was not directed at all men, as I stated REPEATEDLY, but instead at those who wish to commit violent and atrocious acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:02 AM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:59 AM
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I'm sorry but I'm unfamiliar with the idea that feminists don't believe in a regular process for rape. I've never heard that from any feminist. Please enlighten me if this is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:58 AM
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Ok well: 1. That's not the post I linked originally and 2. I don't necessarily agree with it because there's really no correlation drawn or evidence presented concerning the incidence of male violence against women and the "10% of M&Ms are poisoned." I think the artist here was trying to provide a simple graphic as an explanation behind the YesAllWomen hashtag, which for the unfamiliar basically states that even though, obviously, not all men are dangerous or threats to women, a good 90-95% have…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:52 AM
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Not sure what the artist's original intention was here but in my opinion I do not agree AT ALL with the idea that feminism can only represent women, or that men cannot be a part of feminism. Feminism to me is about cooperation between the sexes, and striving for equality between the sexes in all aspects of life, including areas where men have a disadvantage (like being drafted, being expected to be the sole breadwinners, or high incidence of workplace injury and death, for example). Without dial…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:47 AM
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Um.....nowhere were men generalized. The simple fact of the matter is that most TRPers are men. Hell, even certified TRPers have said that TRP is geared toward men and a male audience. There are of course exceptions, like the ladies over at Red Pill Women, but you have to admit that the vast majority of TRPers are men. So yeah, not generalizing men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:43 AM
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I understand, that's why I posted it here. I don't think shit-slinging is necessarily an admirable route to take, but the fact that a good 80% of the people depicted in this cartoon are based on actual people is a bit of an indication here that the "movement" has some issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:41 AM
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Never said that! Don't put words in my mouth pleaseeee! PS: I have yet to see those legitimate intellectual grounds you speak of, just pseudoscience, "~evo psych~" and philosophy, which while interesting doesn't exactly hold any water for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:40 AM
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Um...am I the ONLY one that thinks its super fucked up that your edit painted the guy saying "how are men supposed to refrain when women wear such short skirts" as a Muslim? That's really, really islamophobic and literally insults a good 1/7th of the world's population.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:38 AM
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Hi there! So glad that you're interested in learning more about both sides of the coin before choosing one way or another. Confidence is tough, I get it, especially when the media and everyone around you is telling you to be the perfect "dominant alpha male" who's ripped and handsome and gets alllllllll the ladies. But you gotta do what feels right and feels best for you. You said you don't like being very masculine. That's 100% ok! You have the right to be happy, and if acting super macho and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 06:00 AM
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Oh great Morpheus, God of Dreams, please explain these differences to my feeble female mind! My uterus is using too much energy to act like a normal human, and since I have a uterus, how dare I expect to be treated as an equal? Silly me!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:47 AM
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Wow maybe I should make a similar list about how to be an asinine and disrespectful commenter who refuses to answer serious lines of inquiry! Yay fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:46 AM
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Those that treat me like a slut will find themselves never around me or anyone I associate with, as I do not allow such disrespect and quickly spread word of such treatment to my friends. Those who treat me like a princess will be appreciated, but will by no means be used and abused. Just as I don't want to be treated as inferior, I don't want to be treated as superior (except occassionally inside of a work environment). Those who treat me like an equal will find an equal partner and friend in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:44 AM
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Sorrrrrrrry but philosophy while interesting usually has no basis in scientific fact, therefore I'd just be reading bullshit for no reason and have no reason or rationale to apply it's "~lessons~" to my life. Exercise in futility, yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:40 AM
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But I don't want to be treated as an authority figure or as a "~goddess~" because honestly I don't think I've really done anything worthy of being treated as SUPERIOR. That being said, being treated as INFERIOR is obviously unacceptable as well, because even though there's not a dick in my pants I'm still a rational, thinking, feeling human being. And if they're trying to fuck me, HAH! HAHAHAHAH! It's an exercise in futility and I often make that QUITE clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:38 AM
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I mean if I'm hit on by someone who I don't like, or treated in a disrespectful manner, telling them to "FUCK OFF" generally works. Thats how I deal with the lovely specimens who think that catcalling and screaming "HEY, NICE TITS" is a "~compliment~"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:34 AM
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.......orrrrr I could not give a flying fuck about "alpha-ness" or whatever the fuck that is and just want someone to be decent to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:30 AM
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Or I could just be getting the pen, because I need a pen....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:22 AM
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Just saw this reply, and read the linked article. Very interesting perspective from the folks at r/RedPillWomen in terms of thinking of being "allowed to be immature" as a "gift." I'll have to start browsing there more often actually, they seem to have interesting ideas in terms of traditional concepts of femininity, etc. However, while I 100% respect and admire women who choose to cultivate the "feminine frame of mind" those on that sub tend to subscribe to, it's just not for me. While I suppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:18 AM
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Newsflash, we all have inherent value. The sex card isn't gonna work here, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:35 AM
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Hah this is excellent. For me it's more like this: Me: "Hey can I borrow a pen?" Guy with "game": "You may have to win it off me" -said while grinning snarkily. Me: "K no thanks." Me: Steals pen anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:22 AM
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"I like the idea of influencing men to subjugate women." That is...beyond creepy. Eugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:20 AM
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Your link is broken. I keep getting a 403 error.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:53 PM
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I don't appreciate your condescending tone. Relationships are two sided. In return for his respect, I would be happy to give him whatever love or support he needs. I draw the line in some areas (having an "open relationship" or "open marriage" for example), but in terms of anything else I will endeavor to make sure he is happy and feels loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:51 PM
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How fucking dare you. How fucking DARE you accuse me of using the most horrible thing that has ever happened to me as a "shiny medal." You know how many people know the true extent about what happened to me, besides those who were there? 4. My doctor, my therapist, my ex boyfriend, and my best friend. The only reason I even mentioned it above was to illustrate my own weakness in terms of trusting men, which I thought would help positively influence discussion and help paint a better picture of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:41 PM
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Why? And why are you making me out to be such a horrible person because of a factor I cannot control?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:23 PM
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I never said I wanted love without sexual attraction. If I'm in a relationship with a man there's a pretty good chance he's going to be sexually attracted to me, that just how I've been told most men work. I just can't RECIPROCATE said attraction, no matter how hard I try.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:18 PM
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I mean I suppose it's a possibility, but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:17 PM
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Alright, thank you for your contribution. And yeah I feel like asking r/AskTRP would be akin to diving face-first into a pit of spiders, if I'm being 100% honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:16 PM
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As I've said before, don't really have the money let alone the resources for this sort of thing. I'm definitely looking into it now though, this has been suggested by lots of people in the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:15 PM
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I don't want to be treated as an authority figure or "goddess." I don't want to be treated as a child. I want to be treated in the middle, as a normal human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:13 PM
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"Inflict" myself? That's rather insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:12 PM
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You DO realize that love and the capability to love are completely independent from sex right. Just as one can have sex without love, what's so unreasonable about love without sex. And trust me, if I knew what sexual attraction was or experienced it a good 80% of my problems would be gone. It just doesn't happen for me. Just as straight men without latent homosexual tendencies don't suddenly get turned on by and want to fuck other men, the same is true for me with men, women, and everyone else o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:11 PM
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I was drawn to him for reasons other than sexual ones. He was nice. He was very smart. He was funny. I supported him and helped him through tough times just as he did the same for me. He was also handsome, but that didn't make me want to have sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:05 PM
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You literally just gave me so much hope for the future thank you. I'm 99.999999999% sure I'm asexual which is something I can't help, and unfortunately what most consider a "dealbreaker"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:04 PM
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Thats...thats not how it works man. I can't decide "oh whoop de fuckin do Im giving up on men and I'm only going to be attracted to women from now on"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:02 PM
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Wow TIL I'm a unicorn. Sweet. And to answer your question I definitely would like a 50/50 relationship. I loathe the idea of feeling as though I don't have to give back to my partner, it strikes me as very selfish. And of course I'd want my husband to be the subject of love and care, he's my husband and I married him for a reason lol. In terms of finances I would probably be ok with at some point being a stay at home mom should the need arise, my own (intelligent and very educated) mother did th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:59 PM
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Then help me understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:50 PM
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I don't understand "basic human sexuality" because I don't experience it. Everything I know about sexual arousal/attraction are from articles or anecdotes from friends who actually experience such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:50 PM
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I'm entitled? For wanting to have children? Okayyyyyyy I do not know where you're coming from. And 100% men are people, being a feminist doesn't speak contrary to that. Of course a man, just like everyone else, deserves to feel desired and loved. And I won't be "pretending," I'll want to because he's my fucking husband and I love him. I can't just magically flip a switch and want to have sex, it doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:48 PM
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No drive, no response, no nothing. And I don't want to hurt anyone but unless this is the result of some wacky super rare curable disorder this is most likely just naturally the way I am and the way I will continue to be for life. It's just something I cannot help. It's as if a straight man was to try to be gay. They can look at gay porn, go out with men, be physical with and have sex with men. But if they aren't attracted to men, they aren't just going to "turn gay" despite their best efforts. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:46 PM
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I'll try to get things sorted out but to be perfectly honest there's probably not much I can do. This is just the way I am, the way I've always been. It's not like I used to be super super into sex and then just suddenly changed, no. This is how I've been ever since I knew what sex was.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:58 AM
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Alright, I will. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:53 AM
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Why? I honestly don't understand why.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:44 AM
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Idk if it's a gene causing this or what tbh. To my knowledge no one on either side of my family feels the same way I do. And I think I can make it happen. I mean how hard can it be? "Hey honey I know you've been having a tough time, lets go get rid of some of that stress ;)" or "Good morning, wanna have sex?" or "I'm so proud of you for doing X lets go celebrate" or "I love you so much, lets go to bed." It's not rocket science. Dick in vagina on regular basis = happy sexually fulfilled husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:39 AM
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Supervillains don't exactly have high career success rates, let alone long lifespans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:35 AM
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Thank you so much for this. I honestly am not sure what the future holds for me, but you make me feel better about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:32 AM
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I'll be honest I thought your advice was insane until I realized you were being sarcastic. And I am WELL aware that sexual components are in most male-female interactions, it just honestly disgusts me to think that someone could be looking at me more like an object or a set of holes to fuck rather than a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:31 AM
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I LOVE AVEN. AVEN fucking saved my life several years ago. But the feelings of brokenness still persist despite all the effort I've made to try to accept myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:29 AM
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Thank you, I'll consider your advice. Honestly I first stumbled upon TRP out of morbid curiosity. The ideas and beliefs they had/have were just so alien to me, I was at once fascinated and, if I'm being honest here, terrified. I don't go on it regularly, not at all, I just wanted to learn more about what they were all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:28 AM
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That seems like a very unfortunate generalization in your part, to be perfectly honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:23 AM
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Ok, thank you. I'll look into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:18 AM
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I'm going to be honest. That sounds like a very sad way to view women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:18 AM
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I know that as a sexuality it's incredibly rare, and instances of women being sexually repressed is much more common. But the truth is, even thought I've seen a lot of shit, none of the abuse I've suffered was sexual, thank God. It's just not something I have a desire to do. It's like if you just had dinner and someone offers you a piece of candy. Do you absolutely HAVE to have it? No. Do you feel any real desire to have it? Probably not since you just ate. Would taking it be fine? Sure. It migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:17 AM
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Never. Full stop. Not once. Ever. Not even my ex, who I seriously crushed on for 3+ years and who I honestly was in love with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:13 AM
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I mean, I currently live in a small college town, not really rife with sexologists or psychologists that specialize in this sort of thing. I'll consider it, but the biggest barrier is my own shame. I've tried to accept it, make a joke out of it, take it in stride. But the truth is I'm broken. I can't feel what everyone else can despite my utmost desire to. And I can't really do anything to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:12 AM
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If you don't mind, can you explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:07 AM
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Yeah but the point is there's most likely nothing I can do about it. I've tried and cried and prayed and watched a shit ton of porn, nothing has worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:04 AM
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I wasn't trying to conflate the two, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:02 AM
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Hah well I have never "put out" and am not going to start anytime soon. Also while I understand your analogy about privates and sergeants, I don't think that really applies as it implies that between men and women one is of higher rank, status and/or ability than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:02 AM
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Well that's reassuring, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:59 AM
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I've considered it but I don't really have the money. Plus I'd be mortified to talk about it with anyone in person, just explaining it to my ex bf via text was enough of an ordeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:58 AM
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I have a biological obligation to my mother's side of the family. I'm the only viable person on that side of the family capable of bearing biological children (everyone else is either too old, adopted or are unable to reproduce). There are lots of good genes there, such as not ever getting acne (thank God), skill with foreign languages and rather long lifespans (90+ routinely). To not pass at least some of those genes on would in my opinion be a disservice to the gene pool of future generations.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:56 AM
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Ok so over the past 2 years I gained a significant amount of weight due to illness, as I stated above. However, in about the same time period puberty kinda hit me like a freight train, as I was a very late bloomer (read: boobs and hips were suddenly a thing). Despite my size suddenly men were commenting on my attractiveness, and wanting to be in a sexual relationship (in the case of my ex, VERY sexual relationship) with me. It's very odd I know. I can't wrap my head around it either. Ironically …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:51 AM
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Ok I just want to be seen as more than a "goal" or a sexual "end result" is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:45 AM
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Ok so this is where things get complicated. I have never, not once in my life, seen a man (or anyone for that matter) and thought, "I want to have sex with him." I have never been turned on. I have never had any drive or desire to engage in sexual activity of any sort. HOWEVER, I still want to be loved. I still want to be in caring, romantic relationships. I still want to get married and yes, I would happily have sex with my husband because I loved him, despite my having no biological need/want …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:43 AM
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Actually believe it or not I got treated better as I gained weight. I got my first incidents of men desiring me sexually and wanting to be in a relationship with me during and at the completion of my weight gain. I want to be treated equally because I am a person with thoughts and feelings who is worthy of respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:40 AM
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"A woman will not stay loyal to you. She will never respect you. She will only love you until she stops. She will take everything you have. She will take the people you treasure the most away from you. But you can't get sex if you don't find a way to at least tolerate woman, and you want sex. So either find a way to cope with the fact this is the way women are, or don't have sex with women ever again" That's a very sad way of looking at the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:38 AM
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In a relationship I'd like to feel loved, obviously, but I don't any "game" or similar mind tricks pulled on me. I don't want to be treated as less than a rational adult, or as "the most responsible teenager in the house" as many RPers put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:37 AM
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Ah yes, because calling me a bitch gives so much credence to your argument and beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:23 AM
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But women do not behave like children. Nobody in this entire thread has presented scientific evidence of that. Also I'm sorry but you're just flat out wrong in terms of the "me, me, me" mentality. Women simply want to have the same opportunities as men, is that too much to ask? The different tests you are referring to only exist because of almost insurmountable physical differences, which is not childish at all. It is simply accommodating a person who can perform a task adequately, but perhaps i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:20 AM
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I feel like that devalues the man though. People are not prizes, and the idea that the only way a man can get positive female attention is to make themself more conventionally attractive is kind of sad. Why not work to achieve success in your field? Why not donate your time and effort to charity and improving the world? Why not become an artist or a musician, creating beautiful things of value? These are all examples of how one can garner positive attention, female and otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:42 AM
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I am familiar with it, however it is my firm belief that no person, man or female, is "disposable." We all have intrinsic talents and worth, regardless of "status."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:38 AM
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Now that I disagree with. Love and sex are independent. Respect and sex are independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:32 AM
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Hate it or not, I'm here to learn and to try to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:29 AM
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But if the other person does not WANT sex with said person, if the other person does not WANT a relationship with said person, what is this "taking advantage" other than malicious? "No" does not mean "convince me."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:29 AM
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While I (as you can probably tell) love facts and statistics, they still take a backseat to morality for me. Operating simply on cold facts and logic can do much more harm than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:15 AM
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I suppose it would, but I'm trying to understand it as best I can. I know for many it is a very important, if not the most important aspect of life. I'm honestly rather handicapped in this sense, but I'm trying my best to understand. The idea that someone would manipulate another or treat another as lesser to get sex disturbs me greatly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:13 AM
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I'm not trying to manipulate anyone or trivialize anyone's life experiences. I understand many will have lives that center around sex, sometimes to an unhealthy degree. But I do not understand how someone could live their life solely around sex, based solely around sex. In the interest of full disclosure, I do not experience any sort of sexual attraction, so I honestly do not know how strong one's urge to have sex is. But surely even the most sex-crazed must be able to see that there is more to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:11 AM
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Why on earth would someone base their humanity on their sexual desirability? I'm sorry but that just makes NO sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:05 AM
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Ok but there's more to life than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:04 AM
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The others look interesting but the first book was just what piqued my interest the most. I'll check them out if I have the time. Also most of the articles you're linking in terms of the state "protecting women" are in terms of protecting them from domestic violence, protecting them from being unable to provide for their children, etc. which I cannot see being objectionable. I never understood the "alpha-beta" idea. Every time I try to understand it I just simply can't wrap my head around it. Ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:04 AM
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While there are obvious advantages to manipulating others to achieve your own ends, you cannot argue that such behavior is moral. Also I honestly do not understand what you mean by "sexual marketplace."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:59 AM
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The harm is occurring in the sense that he is not seeing her in the same way he sees his male peers or even non-sexually interested female peers. Respect is independent of sexual desire. Whether or not you want to stick your dick in someone is independent of whether or not you should treat them as the rational, functioning adult they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:56 AM
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It is my belief that if someone is willing to put in the work and learn, they can indeed become "more intelligent." While some naturally have a higher aptitude for understanding and integrating knowledge ("quicker learners," etc.) I believe anyone who takes interest in learning and expanding their horizons can become a better educated and equipped member of society. And when I say "think like an adult" I mean that, barring disability, the neurological pathways and structures exist that allow a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:54 AM
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Those books look rather interesting. I've just put "The Blank Slate" on my reading list, thank you for introducing me to it. However, I still don't see any evidence of your claims that women don't have an incentive for ability and/or maturity. Also, you must admit that although RP does deal mostly with sex and sexual attraction, theres more to healthy relationships and life than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:50 AM
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One of them is being harmed. When someone is not treated like a human, they are being robbed of their humanity, which is intrinsically detrimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:44 AM
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Please support your assertion that "feminist lie, know they're lying, and don't care" with scientific studies and research.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:43 AM
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Even if they are not as mature as my brother, for examples sake, they still don't have the brain of a 13 year old. Barring any sort of disability, they have the brains of an adult, and therefor the capacity to think like an adult. Teenagers simply haven't developed this capacity yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:41 AM
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It's revolting from the perspective that when one person could be looking at and treating someone as a person, the other could be looking at them as an object with the proper holes and squishy bits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:32 AM
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I mean, if you can find reputable sources on TRP by all means go ahead. However in my experience those are few and far between. Don't just use them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:31 AM
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Wow, you did your research. I'm impressed. I personally think that if a man and a woman commit the same criminal act, they deserve and should receive the same punishment regardless of their sex. I know many feminists who will agree. Still fascinating stuff you've offered up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:30 AM
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"The incentive for ability and maturity is lower in women." Prove it using scientific studies and research please. Also men are just as capable of staying home and taking care of children as women, therefore filling that "traditional gender role" you speak of pretty effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:27 AM
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You just stated that women art "unable to achieve" emotional stability. Prove it, with research and scientific studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:24 AM
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And are you implying that women are incapable of being independent, self sufficient and/or responsible? If so I'm gonna need some serious scientific evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:22 AM
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I don't look down on them at all. My own brother will soon be 13 and he is one of the kindest, funniest, most intelligent little guys I've ever met. But, despite that, he isn't an adult, and he simply doesn't have the brain yet to think and behave as an adult would.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:21 AM
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Whether or not it "works" is in my opinion irrelevant. It's wrong. Say there was a village of 100 people but only enough food to adequately feed 70. Two solutions that come to mind are 1. Rationing food among the 100 so everyone goes a little hungry but no one starves or 2. Culling the population to 70 so the remaining 70 can be adequately fed. Both solve the same problem, but one is obviously a worse and more immoral solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:19 AM
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Your comment was on feminist theory, why is it so unreasonable to ask you support it with evidence from the group that you are speaking of. If someone made a comment on mathematics, I'd ask them to back it up with theory from mathematicians. I'm doing the same for you in terms of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:17 AM
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I have clarified my opinions and presented them when I feel it is appropriate. That being said, I have continuously asked for scientific proof or justification behind this behavior with no one offering an explanation. It's not "bad faith" its just no one has given proper evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:15 AM
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Why would one even resort to dehumanization, even to get something as "great" as sex? I would hope that those thinking of engaging in such practices would have the morals to know that such behavior is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:14 AM
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I don't see why anyone would need whatever "game" it is you speak of. And while that response was interesting, I still see no signs of there being any sort of scientific reasoning nor evidence behind those claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:12 AM
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Yeah I've been asking for proof of that one, no cigar just yet. They've been giving me philosophy papers which is clearly not what I'm asking for here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:12 AM
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Wow, you effectively destroyed your argument and credibility like the Hindenburg going up in flames. "Someone doesn't agree with me? They must be EVIL and should all be PUT IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND DIE!!!" Do you realize what a lunatic you sound like? And before you accuse me of doing the same to MRAs or members of the mens rights movement, the fact that I'm here asking for clarification and engaging in discussion and debate in a rational manner runs contrary to that assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:09 AM
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It is disturbing that anyone would make claims that effectively dehumanize and entire group of people and justify said claims with "~philosophy~" and pseudoscience, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:06 AM
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While this was indeed an interesting anecdote, it's still not what I asked for/what I'm looking for. Next!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:05 AM
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Ah, that article quotes Schopenhauer too. He seems to be a favorite of redpillers here, despite his claims having no scientific basis. And since this article seems to be founded on his unproven postulates, I'm going to need more scientific proof that women "stop maturing at 18" or any of these other ridiculous claims people use as justification to not treat women as rational adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:04 AM
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Who is the "they" in question here? Are you claiming the redpillers act like teenagers or the women act like teenagers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:01 AM
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Yes because I'm going to trust a dead German philosopher more than data and panels of dozens if not hundreds of researchers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:00 AM
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You realize "born and raised" is an expression right. It's a figure of speech. If you're going to mince words at least have a proper understanding of how they work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:58 AM
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Hey, I saw something concerning and confusing, I wanted to learn more. What can I say?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:57 AM
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...you do realize that Ellen Ripley and Susan Ivanova aren't real right. They are characters. Expecting anyone in real life to behave like a fictional character who's words and actions are edited by dozens of people who already know how the story ends is absolutely ridiculous. Women are not science fiction characters. Women are people, people that are just as flawed as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:55 AM
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Ok I'll start there. Thank you for your suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:52 AM
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Thats...disturbing to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:51 AM
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Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:48 AM
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I'm going to be honest here, song lyrics were not what I was expecting. And you do realize that just as there are many irresponsible women, there are the same amount of irresponsible men. Lack of responsibility is not sex specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:48 AM
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It's still in my opinion immoral as it dehumanizes the women you are attempting to interact with. When you treat them as lesser beings in order to attain sex, you are literally treating them as a bunch of holes and parts, which is revolting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:46 AM
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How would you know this? Thats a rather insulting thing for you to assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:45 AM
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Please refrain from such meaningless statements. This thread is meant for commentary that is worthwhile and furthers discussion and debate, not useless sentence fragments in misspelled internet slang.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:43 AM
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That is a very good philosophy to have, at least after the initial encounter. But when one treats a whole group of people in a way that gives them less respect because of their sex, that is unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:42 AM
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Please support your assertion scientifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:41 AM
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Of course my view isn't an absolute moral position. That's ridiculous. I just don't see the logic in such behavior, thats all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:41 AM
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Please support this assertion with papers from reputable feminist authors that CLEARLY states this position, not just as "~subtext~"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:40 AM
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I know but I still like to be tactful and understand the information I am given to the best of my ability, even if it means asking for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:39 AM
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Please support your assertion that women "think emotionally and consequentially act brashly" with scientific studies and research papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:38 AM
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Yes but adult women are not children. They are adults, they deserve to be treated as adults, even if said treatment is, as you and others have suggested, "less kind/forgiving."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:37 AM
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I loathe being treated as anything other than an equal. Even if, for the sake of argument, he was more intelligent that I was, I would still prefer to be treated like an equal as opposed to someone inferior. I'd like to think that I'm of at least average intelligence, if not a teensy bit higher, yet I still make an effort to treat everyone around me with respect. I'm rather science-driven, so I may use jokes or throw concepts into conversation that others may be unfamiliar with. If they're confu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:36 AM
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Yeah I keep asking them to support their assertions and overall only a few are having any luck, the rest are either ignoring my requests or grasping at straws.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:27 AM
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Please support your assertions that "men are better" and "women are pussies" and that women are "intellectually inferior" with studies and research.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:26 AM
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No??? Not at all? I was simply giving examples of women who have had success solving problems and how women have just as much of an aptitude to problem solve as men. I (and the vast majority of other feminists) believe in total equality between the sexes, which obviously means neither sex is to be considered "superior beings." I think you need your eyes checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:25 AM
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http://www.aaup.org/article/why-are-we-still-worried-about-women-science This article should clear some things up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:22 AM
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You have my sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:19 AM
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Please support this assertion scientifically. Show me research papers or I will be forced to take your words with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:18 AM
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I don't believe I ever said "will." The capacity to be correct or incorrect in one's conclusions is completely independent of sex. Two people can come to the same conclusion, or they can not. Two people can solve a problem correctly, or they can not. This is independent of the sex of the two parties involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:17 AM
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I don't want YOUR respect or admiration specifically, lets make that clear first of all. In my humble opinion someone who uses a horribly bastardized play on a J. Robert Oppenheimer quote to give something profound an "internet" twist is not really worth my time. I do not demand anything from you, since I'm beginning to suspect that since you are a subscriber of "theory" that dictates disrespecting women and treating them as children is the pathway to sexual success would not be impressed by any…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:14 AM
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In some situations yes, in some situations no. Like I said before, there are multiple methods of thinking that can lead to the same answer. Therefore, it stands to reason that two people, although thinking in different ways, can process information in a manner that leads to them taking the exact same course of action to solve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:10 AM
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So women who work to support their parents or siblings don't have responsibilities? Women who work hard to help put themselves through school like I do don't have responsibilities? Women who care for children who are not their own, perhaps those of a family member or because of the death or illness of another, don't have responsibilities? Women who manage their own businesses and companies don't have responsibilities? Women who care for sick relatives, friends or significant others don't have re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:08 AM
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Biologically, a fully developed and functioning brain, which 99% of adults have (the 1% who don't are usually severely mentally handicapped and unfortunately unable to care for themselves).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:04 AM
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I honestly don't know what I expected to find. Responses here have ranged from intriguing to downright insulting and frightening.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:50 AM
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I read that article. It does make some good points concerning the CDC asking some questions that were confusing or irrelevant. That being said, the fact remains that rape of any kind is unacceptable, and I already linked you several other studies showing high prevalence of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:45 AM
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If you're going to dismiss things simply because they don't fit your agenda theres' nothing I can do for you. As you can see throughout these comments I've been careful to read and analyze the information I have been presented with, even if it runs counter to my beliefs. In many of them I've even found sentiments I agree with. If you won't do the same and instead want to dismiss accredited studies as "bullshit" theres nothing I can do to stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:42 AM
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While obviously there have been a great many influential and essential male thinkers and scientists, there's a reason that most scientific advancement was contributed by (or attributed to) men, that reason being the undeniable fact that in societies the world over women have for thousands of years been denied higher education as well as discouraged from intellectual pursuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:39 AM
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"That path is historically much smoother for women than men" Prove it. Show me the studies. I'm showing you all this, citing my sources and facts appropriately. If you refuse to face the facts theres nothing I can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:26 AM
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This 2011 study also by the CDC found 19.3% of women and 1.7% of men have been raped during their lifetimes: http://origin.glb.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm?s_cid=ss6308a1_e This book states nearly 1 in 10 American women have been raped by an intimate partner, while an estimated 16.9 percent of women and 8 percent of men have experienced sexual violence other than rape; women have a higher lifetime prevalence of severe physical violence compared to men, 24.3 percent and 13.8 percent…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:23 AM
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"Their behavior is more similar to that of a child than of a man." Prove it. Back it up. Show me studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:00 AM
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NOPE! https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201207/men-women-and-iq-setting-the-record-straight Men and women have the same average IQ
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:54 AM
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To quote the financial journalist Michael Lewis: "Back in 2001, MIT’s Quarterly Journal of Economics published an intriguing paper called “Boys Will Be Boys: Gender, Overconfidence, and Common Stock Investment.” The authors, Brad Barber and Terrance Odean, gained access to the trading activity in over 35,000 households, and used it to compare the habits of men and women. What they found, in a nutshell, is that men not only trade more often than women but do so from a false faith in their own fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:51 AM
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAY
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:40 AM
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First of all, your use of the term "feminazi" just completely discredited you and your argument (or lack thereof). Second, feminists are still fighting against the prison sentencing gap as it is a result of benevolent sexism as well as the existence of selected service, its just that these issues do not usually receive the same amount of attention or debate as other feminist issues such as ending rape and protecting reproductive rights. Third, I literally just commented and cited a source statin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:40 AM
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In terms of how they process information, yes. In terms of one being inferior to the other in terms of logical thinking and the ability to behave rationally, hell fucking no. There are multiple correct ways to come upon the right answer when problem solving. Men and women are just as capable of being logical and rational, even if they tend to process information and think in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:22 AM
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YEP! My argument is that adult women, because they are adults, should be treated as adults. Not as "children" or "very responsible teenagers" but as rational adults because they are rational adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:18 AM
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I seem to have found a kindred spirit in terms of using scientific studies and research to prove points, rather than anecdotes and "~philosophy~" Excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:12 AM
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With kindness and with respect. I allow them to make their own decisions unless doing so causes them harm, or unless their requests are ridiculous (like demanding a trip to disney world IMMEDIATELY). I look at them as people, albeit small ones, with their own needs and beliefs and opinions which deserve respect. Now after hearing that you're probably gonna go, "whats so wrong about treating a woman the same way" or something. The problem is a woman is NOT a child. She is an adult, with a rationa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:08 AM
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Again I'm gonna need you to cite some reputable (read: scientific papers not blog posts) in terms of your claim that women "have the freedom to act like a child." Also hate to break it to you but feminists call for the end of all sexism, including the "benevolent sexism" you described. In addition, just as an aside, the wage gap is still a thing. It's smaller than the 77-78 cents figure thats toted when factors such as time of for child care are thrown in, but its definitely still a thing: http:…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:03 AM
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...you DO realize that the behaviors you've described above, while not necessarily desirable, are not sex specific and can occur in either sex, right? Since you folks love to pull the MRA classic "not all men" card I'm gonna call you on the carpet for generalizing women. While in some incidents women are treated more leniently than men, such as the criminal justice system, guess what? Thats a FEMINIST issue!!! Feminism calls for equal treatment of both sexes, and many feminists have actually spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:25 AM
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No but I don't treat them the same way I treat rational adults since their brains haven't fully developed. When you treat an adult like a child, you are literally saying you don't believe they have the cognitive ability to behave as an adult. When you treat an adult this way because of their sex, you're being ridiculous and offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:19 AM
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Never said that! In fact I said the exact opposite in many of these threads. But cognitive differences does not mean men are inherently "better at logical thinking" or any of that bullshit. There is literally no scientific evidence to support that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:12 AM
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"Everything rational scientific or technological in it was constructed by men." Please, PLEASE tell me you're joking. As if women didn't found the worlds first university (Fatima al Fihri founded the University of Qarawiyyin in 859), develop secret communications to fight the Nazis as well as invent wireless transmission technology (Hedy Lamarr), a whole computer language and the idea of "software" and "bugs" (Dr. Grace Hopper, the COBOL language), Kevlar (Stephanie Kwolek), car heaters (Margare…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:09 AM
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Alright, thank you. I'll try to empathize but I just don't think I'll ever be able to understand/agree with/empathize with treating others as lesser to further a goal or an end, or to get something such as sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 03:09 AM
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I see where you're coming from, at least biologically. You are driven to want to reproduce. I just don't see the logic or morality behind putting smashing your genitals against someone else's genitals as a higher priority than treating someone like a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:53 AM
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Adult women are people. Adult men are people. If both parties are adults capable of rational thought then treating one as though they are not is demeaning, especially when the rationale for such treatment stems from their sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:48 AM
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http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/p60-240.pdf As you can see here, 1 in 6 custodial (custody-bearing) parents are men. About half of custodial parents had child support agreements. Therefore it follows that about 8.3% of custody bearing parents will be men receiving some if not all child support needed. Also you wanted evidence of women being arrested for not paying child support, here's an example: http://www.wistv.com/story/4439564/deadbeat-moms-arrested-over-unpaid-child-support Also I'm st…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:47 AM
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I'm gonna be 100% honest here: I don't experience sexual attraction of any sort. I've tried for years, and I've done basically anything/everything I can think of to find someone/thing that turns me on in the slightest (read: a TON of porn). No success. Some may claim that that's "bullshit" or "impossible" but that's been my life ever since I realized that sexual attraction was indeed a thing (believe it or not I used to think that people only pretended to want to have sex and that movies, etc. h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:39 AM
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Assuming single mother and single father households apply for and are given government assistance on an equal basis, of course there are going to be more single mother households receiving assistance than single father households, there's 6 million more of them! And I'm not sure whether or not couples mutually agreeing to have mothers retain custody or not. It very well could be mutual, and the Pew research stats in that article I linked show married women spending an average of 12.9 hours a wee…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:31 AM
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I understand that women are free to reject men, etc. I just don't see how someone can logically, ethically, and/or morally justify not treating a rational adult as a rational adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:23 AM
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I just dont' think its proper or moral or acceptable to treat someone like they are anything less than an adult if they are an adult. It's dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:21 AM
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I know it's not easy since I am evidently not a man. But I'm trying to anyway. I just don't understand the logic of or even how someone could morally justify treating someone like a child to further their own agendas or play the "dating game," whatever that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:19 AM
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Or maybe women and men are just as capable of rational thought, their brains just process information differently. There are multiple ways of solving many problems that are still correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:17 AM
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I mean if you're going to use welfare as an example, it's worth noting that in 2011 there were around 2.6 million single father households as opposed to 8.6 million single mother households. Thats a significant difference. Source: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/07/02/the-rise-of-single-fathers/ In addition, anyone who doesn't pay alimony can be thrown in jail, it's not exclusive to men. It just so happens that when the two parents are not together, be it by divorce or breakup, the woman usu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:15 AM
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That video I believe is correct in terms of being honest with people to help them succeed. I'd much rather someone be honest with me than "sugarcoat" things though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:07 AM
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I'll check out The Rational Male ASAP, thanks for the suggestion. Though I must ask, what did you read, find out that lead you to no be a feminist anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:05 AM
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The point is its disrespectful. That may not seem like a big deal for you, but for many it is, including myself. I'd much rather have a horrible unpleasant conversation with someone who treated me like an adult than a wonderful one with someone who treated me like a child. If someone is an adult, they deserve to be treated as such. That's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:03 AM
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I read that article, which was very interesting by the way. However, the article you linked has no mention nor evidence that the different ways men and women's brains are wired causes women to "not have the same capability for rational thought that men do." While yes, many studies have shown that men and women process information in different ways, that does not mean one group is inherently better at a certain type of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:01 AM
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...you must admit that theres a difference between an unborn fetus or as you put it "child" and an adult woman who has had years worth of life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:55 AM
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I just don't see how anyone can justify treating anyone in a demeaning way that negates or disregards their ability to rationalize and make decisions, regardless of the "results" they want. Treating someone as an adult person in my opinion should always come first
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:52 AM
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It just disturbs me that someone would willingly disregard another individuals ability to function and think as a rational adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:50 AM
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I just don't understand why anyone would willingly and willfully disrespect another or not treat them as though they are a rational, functioning adult, even if it is to "reach a desired result." The "result" that is desired is in my opinion always secondary to the other's humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:49 AM
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Ok I understand, thank you for your explanation. I would still however love it if any subscribers to this theory/way of thinking could justify said theory with facts and statistics from sources like the ones I detailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:47 AM
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It disturbs me that they see these things in "most women." And while dealing with someone always playing the victim I understand is difficult, the fact remains that women around the world continue to face challenges that are unique to them because of their sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:45 AM
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Well if you've never had trouble with such things kudos to you. I know hundreds, male AND female, who cannot say the same. The point is one's ability and maturity is independent of one's sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:43 AM
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While I disagree concerning your assertion that what is useful is what is true, it still strikes me as rather disrespectful. You may claim that the sentiment "doesn't matter" but I would have to disagree. Being disrespected by anyone sucks, especially when one performs well in a given situation and does plenty to be worthy or respect. Being disrespected because of something that is biologically predetermined (in this case sex) in my opinion sucks significantly more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:41 AM
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Obviously people will have varying maturity levels given their stage of life. Many adults, regardless of sex, will be considered by some to be less mature than others, just as they themselves will consider some others to be less mature than them. Maturity is independent of sex. Like you said, many adults will demonstrate they are mature instead of getting upset, while others will become upset or brush it off. These responses are independent of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:38 AM
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When you treat women as children you demote them from their position as rational adults capable of making their own decisions. You're literally claiming women don't have the same ability to make decisions as men, a claim asserted by many other commenters in this thread. If this is what you believe, I'm going to ask the same of you that I did for them: Please back up this claim using scientific studies and research conducted by an accredited agency, university, etc. Personal anecdotes and "common…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:34 AM
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I'm sorry I honestly don't understand this comment. I'm pretty sure that no human alive is perfect nor incapable of making mistakes, not sure what a "female brain" has to do with this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:29 AM
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While I can logically understand your view I'm going to have to disagree in terms of not consoling men and women "not responding well" to honesty. I believe that regardless of sex, when offering advice one must be honest. This honesty can come with a degree of caring and tact, but flat-out lying doesn't really do the other person any good. I'd rather be told a hard truth than be lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:28 AM
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I understand that they aren't the same. I browsed r/MensRights as well but forgot to mention it explicitly above. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:25 AM
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Really? Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:25 AM
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"Women don't understand responsibility and accountability to the same degree as men" I'm sorry but I'm gonna need proof of that. Not an anecdote, not "common knowledge," give me multiple studies by accredited agencies such as divisions of the government, universities, etc. Please do the same with your assertion that "there is always someone to bail them out" and that "They are never forced to mature past a certain age (18)." If you're gonna make these claims, you have to back them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:24 AM
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I'm sorry but I still don't see the advantage to that. While I can understand the advantages of keeping a relationship lighthearted and fun, this method of thinking strikes me as rather insulting to women, as it insinuates they are not capable of being responsible, etc. In addition, "accepting their emotions to change" and not "expect(ing) them to be responsible or keep their promises" can easily be applied to ALL people. People aren't perfect. They make mistakes, they slip up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:20 AM
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And this has to do with adult women...how?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:16 AM
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Please back this up with proof. And when I say proof I don't mean "common knowledge" or personal anecdotes, I mean multiple scientific studies conducted by a university or government agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:15 AM
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Acceptable to those who choose to treat anyone inferiorly/as a child because of their sex. If someone is an adult who is capable of thinking rationally (aka not mentally handicapped or mentally ill to the point of being unable to function or make decisions for themselves) it is my firm belief that they be treated as such, not as though they are an overgrown child or a "very responsible teenager"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:45 AM
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