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they just get married later and later in life. 45% of women are expected to be childless by 2030, not unmarried, Nope its single and childless: https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/45-percent-women-are-expected-to-be-single-and-childless-by-2030 People aren't necessarily opting for hookups over ltrs. Marriage rates are on the decline but the majority of people still get married, they just get married later and later in life. Evidence points to people putting off long term relationship in favor of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:05 PM
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Birth rates have been falling globally since the 1970s, In the 70's the birthrate in the USA was like 5-6 children per woman. You have to look at when the birthrate drops below 2, because thats below replacement rate. For the USA, that happened around 2009, when social media and dating apps first took off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:09 AM
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OP, you are missing the key word, "culture". A culture is a set of ideas and beliefs amongst a population, not just an activity. The problem with hookup culture is it removes the typical guidelines of dating for the goal of a long term relationship and then marriage. It creates odd terms like "situationship" or "booty call", which are all ambiguous and leave people confused. For example, up to 45% of women between 25-44 will be single in 2030 from what i read if current trends continue. Then don…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:07 AM
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I wouldn’t say professional success is a “masculine” trait… I wouldn’t say wearing mostly jeans is a “masculine” trait. I wouldn’t say not wearing makeup is a “masculine” trait. In fact, I don’t really see how any of these are “masculine” traits 🤷‍♀️. You mean this? That's not a definition. In fact, so many people continuously just refute something isn't feminine or isn't masculine, but for some reason no one can define either one. Makes you think someones trying to erase the differences eh ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:08 AM
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If they are different, with different meanings, then it should be easy to define them each then. within two posts, no one has given me any definition of either masculinity and femininity .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:04 AM
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yes, they also have links to women recognizing a man as masculine https://medium.com/@RobertBurriss/do-tattoos-make-a-man-appear-healthier-and-more-attractive-2faae8abce69
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:11 AM
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There was another post about wanting a feminine woman That was my post. I am not trolling. I am showing the utter hypocrisy how I am high fived for wanting a masculine woman, and having people want the FBI sent to my house because i want a feminine woman. its time to PASSPORT
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:10 AM
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that’s kinda it - in the modern world, masculine and feminine are both becoming more irrelevant - and that’s my overall point actually; in order to have the masculine and feminine to live in harmony, Speaking strictly about the professional and corporate world, you have an excellent point. Women and men can do any profession today. Biden just named a woman the first leader of the Navy, there's woman coaches of the NFL, etc. “traits” largely depend on things like the surrounding cultures, rights/…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:39 PM
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Tattoos are masculine because they are edgy and require long sessions of pain to get . Source I have a held sleeve . Many female tattoo artists are lesbian
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:19 PM
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but that doesn’t really speak to OP’s point that strong high earners are likely to expect better. Ah, that's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:09 PM
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Many women like to call men who appreciate youthful energy pedophiles. Giant eyeroll Thank you for finally someone calling this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:06 PM
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its moreso about the societal role played, and how you interact with the world around you. So in modern day society, what is the role of the man and what is the role of the woman ? define masculine or feminine by “likes doing X, hates doing Y”, its a lot more abstract and philosophical. Why not though ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:01 PM
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But she's apple shaped. https://www.instagram.com/p/CtDm-0vJfqp/ That is pear shaped ^ what your likely referring to with your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:39 PM
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Bro idk where you’re from but there are overweight girls who are fine as hell. Most curvy women are overweight by BMI, Your using exceptions to prove the rule. For example, the beginning of over weight at say 5'4" is 150 pounds, https://www.reddit.com/r/progresspics/comments/8lb3c8/f2154_150lbs_115lbs_35_lbs_35_years_thanks_to/ On the left is 150 at 5'4", big stomach, no thigh fat. Can a woman be fine at overweight BMI ? Yes, but thats determined by genetics and surgery. that's NOT the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:31 PM
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Most women are not beautiful (Visit) and feminine, they cannot excite love nor sexually satisfy strong successful men. This is false. If a woman in the west is : A healthy weight according to BMI Wears makeup, feminine clothing She will be more sexually appealing than the majority of the female population. Reminder: average woman in the USA is overweight, many states have obesity rates of 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:07 PM
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and that’s kinda another issue, modern capitalism does not value femininity or feminine traits - in other words, Nope, many careers value feminine traits over masculine ones. HR, marketing, product management, user interface design. The leaders in these areas are women. There's also nursing, nurse pracitioner, etc. I think overall you make some great points, but the core of the issue to me seems to be gender confusion and promotion of infinite gender identities. Even in my post here the other da…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:20 PM
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liberal feminist so lol Liberal feminism is fine if your wealthier and taller than most men in a given nation. If a guy is dead set only about traditionalism, he would go to Poland.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:00 PM
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Why not just date western women? Western women are far higher earning and have much higher physical standards in men. Also western women are on average (USA) over 170 pounds, while the average asian woman is 121.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:58 PM
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Most traditional women won't date outside of their ethnicity you are just gonna end up with a modern liberal feminist girl Nope. At least in East Asian and South East Asian countries, all women are open to dating a foreigner from a western country. confucianism is huge emphasis on wealth and education. And many Asian countries prioritize pale/white skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:57 PM
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I am always being told that red pill ideology red pill is anti passport bro. They would view it as being beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:49 PM
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Have yet to see a high value korean girl with a WM it’s not in the cultural norm. Whats a high value korean girl now ? On average korean women are 50 pounds lighter then american women and usually cute. So please do explain high value. a pretty korean girl and a foreigner https://www.reddit.com/r/wmafs/comments/xg1j78/about_a_week_ago_i_found_this_koreanamerican/ taiwanese girl and a foreigner https://www.instagram.com/pysharon.tw/ ​ Where are all these 4’11 guys getting these girls??? https://w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:28 PM
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A kpop star is feminine compared to most western men. If what you are saying was remotely true WMAF wouldn’t even be a thing in Asia . Look I can’t convince you not to believe illusions , I am jsut saying your thinking is not inline with reality . Look at Big Ed , deformed , 4’11” man who has several woman wanting kids with him in the Philippines
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:49 PM
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If something cannot be defined in a non-ambiguous manner , then how can you state something is or isn’t masculine ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:27 PM
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“Facial symmetry” Black pill is leaking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:25 PM
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Consider drop shipping or affiliate marketing , if u don’t have a tech background
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:03 PM
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That’s kind of the point though . Kpop idols are a lot more reasonable looks wise than NBA stars or NFL stars. So the standard of masculine is much more achievable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:58 PM
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You do have to be cautious about laws regarding property ownership in other countries , as some don’t allow expats to buy property , some require it to be owned by the citizen spouse , etc. but beyond that if you study up well on all the rules , no disadvantages
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:56 PM
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Oh ok got it . So you think we should ban anyone over 18 from playing Pokémon and Nintendo too ? Your funny
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:53 PM
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I said heavily tattooed . Meaning a half sleeve or sleeve . Not little cutsie love ones or one on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:45 PM
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I never asked anyone to agree to anything . You have yet to present any definition of masculinity or femininity that’s non ambiguous
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:44 PM
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No , there’s zero link between pedophilia and stuffed animals . That’s some next level arm chair psychology . Unless I specifically said I want young girls whom have stuffed animals , nothing I said is related to pedophilia. It’s super common for Asians of all ages to like plushies from Pokémon , Japanese cartoons , super hero’s , etc. even some adult women on my post commented that they would want the picture of the plushie I linked .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:43 PM
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I feel rants like these are from guys in the low economy states who don’t have upward mobility to become a passport bro or are too ignorant to consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:05 PM
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Any woman does this . Losing a job for man in a family relationship is always a negative . Always
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:05 PM
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Nope , it’s being an alpha bux , You don’t understand that other countries don’t have a concept of Chad or the alpha in the way the USA does . Women in asian countries view financial success as masculine success . Western men are also on average 4-5 inches taller than men in most Asian countries .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:03 PM
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Do you understand what “socially constructed” means? Indeed, but you still haven't given any definitions . First, you state: Femininity: the quality or nature of the female sex Masculinity: the quality or nature of the male sex This would imply biological representation of masculinity and femininity, since sex is biological. Then you mention social construction. If you believe masculinity is socially constructed, how is it socially constructed to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:49 PM
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But this contradicts your other comments. According to this, gender is fully related to sex, thus the natural strength men have and physical weakness women have is representative of masculinity and femininity , right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:45 PM
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what moral code could it violate? Well, i asked a question yesterday if it's wrong to want a feminine woman, got all kinds of complaints, people wanted to send the FBI to my house, etc. So I am asking the flip side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:51 PM
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But he was equating femininity with weakness, incompetence and childishness then, now he’s trying to equate masculinity (in women) with competence, strength, fitness and comfortable clothing 🤷‍♀️. Do you have a definition of femininity and masculinity ? Or are they the same to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:50 PM
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I wouldn’t say professional success is a “masculine” trait… Succeeding in a male dominated industry and being a leader in it is a lot more than "professionalism". I wouldn’t say wearing mostly jeans is a “masculine” trait. While also no wearing dresses, is an avoidance of feminine clothing. I wouldn’t say not wearing makeup is a “masculine” trait. I mean it's going against the societal construct of femininity , right ? In fact, I don’t really see how any of these are “masculine” traits 🤷‍♀️. Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:46 PM
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they became passport bro and are currently being blown by beautiful ladies in a jacuzzi overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:11 AM
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she wouldn’t have moved here. Oh if she's an expat thats even more the case then hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:12 AM
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not exposed to anti female content. Then you would have to hide them from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:41 AM
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Kate Winslet Eva Mendez Salma Hayek Kate Upton Jennifer Lopez Christina Hendricks Rihanna Jennifer Love Hewitt Beyonce Sofia Vergara Kat Dennings Scarlett Johansson Ariel Winter All of these are still thin women. You have to think in context of the USA. The average woman weighs over 170 pounds. So thin would mean less than the average weight to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:40 AM
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If a woman engaging in casual sex is considered empowering, then I, as a man engaging in casual sex, am a feminist going around empowering women. 👊 It doesn't work like that. To feminists a man engaging in casual sex is treating her like an object and piece of meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:38 AM
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Well that shows you how screwed up US society is compared to Asian countries
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:41 AM
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I mean, I also make a mid 6 digit income and am 6’2, but that hasn’t really furthered my cause in America haha. I think he meant more socially skilled and dominant? status falls generally in two buckets traditional status (wealth, career, education) alternative status (drugs, clubbing, coolness, "hoes") In general Asian countries are drawn toward traditional status, USA does not in modern times. Maybe in the 80's, or 90's, but not now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:48 PM
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There are not many Muslim men here to judge them or hurt them so they do what they like. ahhhh good point. there's no haram police hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:47 PM
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I think though its not that women teach men to be feminine, they rather caudal or tend to their every need, and men grow up and expect women to be the ones to ask them out, take them out on dates, and do all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:57 PM
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Disagree because it's not limited to average guys at all. Women berate attractive men for being "assholes" or "pricks who just want sex". This is the post-rationalization for either rejection or failure to turn a hookup into a relationship. but your correct on the woman part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:42 PM
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She wears hijab so I’m not sure where this will go Are you a muslim yourself? I thought muslim women cannot date non muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:53 PM
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You do know if you were high value enough, hot girls here (America) would treat you like how those Filipino girls are treating you right? It’s just that those 3rd world countries a the girls there are broke af, so anything above poverty salary is respectable. Nope. USA doesn't value wealth , education, or status that much. I make over $330k a year, 6 feet tall, jewish, went to top schools, and have tried picking up girls or dating girls that make minimum wage from fast food places or jamba juice…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:48 PM
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"Situationships" isn't anything new, it seen as initial stage for relationships. No it is a new thing. It's really just casual sex plus dates. The difference is normal dating discusses what people are looking for but situationships do not. And situationships are non-exclusive by definition. Just a way for women to lie to themselves they aren't sharing chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:44 PM
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Are you Shona or Ndebele? are these tribes, or ethnic groups within Zimbabwe ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:41 PM

virtue signaling strong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:26 PM
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Outside of bars or clubs, meaning in dating environments, men generally gain more leverage with status and wealth, women gain it with looks. Men need a baseline level of looks, but it's not the uncanny valley / chad morphs that black pills think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:42 PM
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Many of my old high school friends got married at 18-20 and have been "out of the pool" for years. in 2021 the average marriage age is 29 https://www.brides.com/what-is-the-average-age-of-marriage-in-the-u-s-4685727#:~:text=According%20to%202021%20statistics%2C%20the,at%2024.6%20years%20of%20age. If many of your friends got married at 18, you are the outlier here, by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:33 AM
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Huh? You get lean by eating nothing. Push ups/pull ups are free. This is proven by prison guys being buff , and i think all prisons banning free weights
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:05 AM
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Understanding that people need a place to live and it's not okay for anyone to hoard housing and artificially inflate the prices is just basic human decency. land lords don't hoard housing. They make it cheaper by giving the option to rent. The biggest impact on housing is jobs and inflation. Gentrification always happens due to companies moving in and offering big paying jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:07 PM
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If you can afford to drop thousands of dollars without blinking, then you've got an attitude towards money that doesn't exactly suggest moral integrity. One thing I will challenge you on here is, at least in the SF bay area, landlords are the opposite. The landlord I used to have for example was actually extremely frugal with everything except buying the properties. Never fix anything, but also he only ever wore costco or walmart clothing and only ate fast food . His house is very big but the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:52 PM
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I said “ok but I want so be extremely clear I’m not going to have sex with you”. After dinner (which was phenomenal and cost $700 for a 8 course tasting with wine paring) I thanked him, gave him a hug, and went to hail a taxi to go home. You did the right thing here. Hopefully the guy takes time to learn a lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:50 PM
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He's probably doing something gross with his time like crypto or being a landlord. Are you a communist/socialist or left wing ? Not liking someone due to politics is different than it being a legitimate red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:45 PM

raising a child is mentally 1000x harder than any job This is false in a objective sense because you cannot be fired or lose the job of parenting. It's not comparable to a job that can be lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:23 PM
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I disagree because I feel (although you can prove me wrong) you might be using a standard of modesty that's not realistic for the culture you live in. Like this is hard to navigate depends on how you define provocative. For example, https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-media-library-service-media/e8c78c17-56d6-416a-a22e-dd155ecd027d.__CR0,0,970,600_PT0_SX970_V1___.jpg is workout attire ok ? is a low cut top and short shorts ok on a hot day ? https://publish.purewow.net/wp-content/uploads/si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:58 AM
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who already like dressing modestly and date THEM I feel OP likely has a very unreasonable standard of modesty where most people don't even dress like that. Or else as you say, this would be easy just by avoiding women wearing club dresses at KFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:53 AM

I mean it all depends what kind of values you have yes. Not to mention that in some places, paying for the other person can be seen as insulting (eg nordics,spain) If you want women like that be prepared for the negatives / tradeoffs: https://www.elsevier.com/connect/nordic-paradox-highest-rate-of-intimate-partner-violence-against-women-despite-gender-equality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:34 PM

I'm not advocating for spending large money or anything like that. But say you go to coffee or for a lunch, if it's like paying $18 or $9 for both of you, and that maybe makes an impression, I think its worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:04 PM

I mean, you want to essentially pay people to sleep with you yes? It’s transactional. No he wants to save larger investment until there's some initial returns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:43 PM

How about you go 50/50 all the time , despite open legs or not? That will leave your dick dry in many cases or definitely in Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:41 PM

How do you know she isn't a sugar baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:08 PM
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romantic/sexual relationships and don't like being single. Look up the term "situationship" It's likely what most young women will be doing as time goes on, sharing chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:25 PM
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Im in the US and our birthrate is dropping too but we have immigration which offsets the problem. USA birth rate is still 1.64 .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:24 PM

My brother is 5’5” and he works at a health insurance company and is definitely not rich, and he doesn’t have any problems dating lol. How tall are the women he is dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:21 PM

He is only missing one thing: height (he’s around 5’5”.) 5'5" is quite short though for a guy. That's where a portion of women are even taller than you (the 5'6"-5'7" women), and a good chunk are at eye level . But he could do great if he sticks to SE Asian women who are on average closer to 5 feet. This would produce a similar height gap seen in average men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:20 PM

I have an old friend from college who is similar (short, handsome, rich) and got a lot of women. Married now his wife is a knockout too. how tall is the wife ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:16 PM
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None of these are manipulation. Manipulation is convincing or steering someone to do something they wouldn't otherwise do for you. Saying a woman is beautiful before she puts her make up on might be just to support her or might be what a man thinks. Positive reinforcement != manipulation. A better example of manipulation might be if a man said "you will only be beautiful if you gain 50 pounds", and then proceeds to take actions to discourage her when she's not eating. Most manipulation needs neg…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:01 AM
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status is typically tied to some form of importance or competence , and i think importance and competence plays a role in mate selection for having children with good genes. Is it a deep evolutionary reason or just culture. Different cultures emphasize different status. In America Zuck is a nerd but in Asia he's a god worshipped by asian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:10 AM
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Isolating a person from their friends is considered a form of controlling behaviour according to CPS, which is what he was trying to do. He said she couldn’t see her male friends, or even her female friends that he didn’t like. These aren't the same thing. CPS is saying isolation from all or nearly all friends or family. Not seeing one or a set of friends is not isolation. I have dated a few women who didn't want me to be friends with some really attractive women who weren't work related. Totall…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:01 AM
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“I won’t date a women with any male friends” and “you’re not allowed to have any male friends” is abusive and wrong, I think we have to define though the closeness of these friends. If it's being applied to any male or colleague, sure that's abusive . But very close friends ? In my experience the women I have dated didn't want me to have any close female friends (meaning who aren't colleagues and you spend one on one time together in a social context) , and I totally understand that .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:57 AM
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Women tend to be more educated than their husbands these days Those are humanities degrees for masters or phds. Not math or science.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:52 AM
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happiest, healthiest Do you have a source on that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:43 AM
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how men don’t want women with actual careers and don’t care about women’s earning potential. Can you give an example of an "actual career" . Last I checked all careers are .... careers. Then they cry that the women get “half of their stuff” in a divorce and in rare cases they have to pay alimony. I mean this is still the case if the man simply earns more than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:42 AM
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I think /u/AstronautLoveShack isn't talking about a long term decline in attraction, she's talking, (likely) about what I have seen even in other subs or on tiktok / instagram where a guy or girl does one small thing wrong and everyone is commenting DUMP HER!!!! / You deserve better than him !!! dump his ass!!!! EDIT: Also FDS literally advocates for ghosting a guy just because he checks his phone one time on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:38 AM
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I have gone on a few one on one hang outs with girls though OP, be careful because those are NOT dates. making any moves outside of a date might land you in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:00 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/01/politics/investigates-fbi-syria-greene/index.html ​ this belongs here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:54 AM
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if it's extremely rare why does it not happen more than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:43 AM
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Denmark does it, Sweden does it, Finland does it, WOW I had no clue about that. Jesus christ the USA is some messed up combo of traditionalism and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:41 AM
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what kind of standards or say specific requirements do you have ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:40 AM
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exactly what is he doing there? In my case, we're not having kids. So I'm paying for a butler You should assume he would also have his own hobbies and travels he does on your dime, outside of house duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:39 AM
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ohh u mean like elderly health conditions that impede physical activity. Thats very different from say a 30 year old woman claiming her obesity is caused by a medical condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:46 PM
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OP, I disagree because the problem is not marriage, it's divorce laws. The USA is a very bad mix of feminism and traditionalism. We have no fault divorce and child support and alimony ,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:44 PM
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This is why you gotta pick someone that loves you as a person This is a black / white fallacy. Men pick someone for their looks OR who they are as a person. In reality it's always a mix. So you have to see what basket you want to separate those eggs into.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:40 PM
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Weight gain can happen due to stress, medications, age, health issues, busy schedules, complacency. It’s not really a conscious decision. Are we talking 20 pounds or like 70+ ? Large weight gains are always issues with diet and exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:37 PM
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Nope. It wouldn't work. Most deal breakers are easily verifiable. Income, height, looks, dick size, etc. Anything outside of deal breakers are subjective qualities that change with the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:35 PM
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But no I've never been aroused sexually by a personality. But what aroused u about the men whom are average by black pillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:51 PM
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Comparing sex to food and sexual urges to hunger is stupid because you will not die if you don’t have sex. Nofap wouldn't be a thing if not having sexual release didn't have immense biological ramifications. Not ejaculating makes me very very horny at the 6 day or 7 day mark. I literally can't concentrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:38 PM
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In developed countries there are also desperate people, but it can only go so bad because of good social safety nets. this is a majorly flawed way of thinking. No woman in SE Asia is dating a foreigner for basic necessities. They are dating them to get access to income in some cases far beyond what can be earned in their home country. It's a boost far more than any social safety net. It's not comparable to what pimps do to girls in the USA. at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:43 AM
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the first and third photo are the same did u post the wrong one?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:38 PM
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That isn't chubby. Nearly all the fat is distributed nicely around the hips and thighs. https://previews.123rf.com/images/alexzabusik/alexzabusik1905/alexzabusik190500062/123287961-overweight-female-person-resting-at-the-sea-young-chubby-woman-in-bikini-comes-out-from-seawater.jpg this is what most guys would think of as chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:37 PM
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Account made few hours ago But it’s also been extreme/aggressive: jamming their tongue in my mouth, Checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:01 PM
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Not if it was in an entirely different country with entirely different rules, languages, customs, and cultures, I wouldn't. I mean Korea / Japan / Singapore have Amazon, netflix, same main websites like youtube, paypal, reddit etc. There's also way better public transit , public safety, public sanitation, than the USA. And more affordable health care. cannot go horribly horribly wrong, isn't hugely dangerous, and doesn't still include the very high probability of catching no fish or hating the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:13 AM
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the highest paid onlyfans girl kazumi's world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5gNlRvR80E she makes $300k a month from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:36 PM
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It's like the more obese you are as a woman the more special you feel these days. Yup, that happens to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:34 PM
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If you're fit, you benefit from the rarity of being fit just like the fit girls do. Fit isn't rare lol. Walk into any 24 hour or La fitness. But regardless of how small your pool is, if you're desirable within that pool, it won't be a problem. This is mathematically flawed. The smaller a pool of potential candidates the less choice and less chance you have of matching. The mistake you make is a.) people match equals b.) all people are even playing the match game In the tinder experiment i posted…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:33 PM
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not it gives us approximately 0 power whatsoever. Kazumi would like to have a word with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:40 PM
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How would hypersexualizing everyone encourage Monogamy? It would give men the tools and confidence to discover their own sexuality and choose a woman for monogamy that he likes the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:38 PM
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60% go out of their way to find someone from the same culture despite having a smaller pool of people. Cultural differences are real. I've only dated Chinese Americans or taiwanese Americans, but every girl's parents I met were thrilled I was a.) Jewish b.) made a high salary c.) went to a top school. I would say it's much easier to date Asians then say Blacks or Hispanics because the cultural difference is much wider.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:34 PM
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Monogamy is the foundation of modern society and without it, it furthers the destruction of the nuclear family that's taken place over the last 40 years. Absolutely correct. But part of the reason monogamy falls apart is when there's abnormal sexual development of men or women. There's so much confusion for kids these days around transgenderism, "choosing" a gender, and all that. There's no framework. So my solution is, make society as sexual as possible. In Taiwan they make deserts in shapes of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:24 PM
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It's Shrodinger's feminism, women are simultaneously weak and frail and afraid and need help, or strong and empowered and don't need no man While this makes sense as a singular concept of "feminism", I have never seen the same group of women or same women use both sides. Generally women who play the victim are the social justice warrior types, aka social workers, psychologists, music therapists, etc. Basically they don't have a huge job or high earning job. Women who take the "strong and empower…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:17 PM
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The men shaming women on body count either have 0 bodies or have slept around a lot themselves. It's the zero bodies. As my N-count has gone up overtime I support women sleeping around more . It's better to be promiscuous, the world needs sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:13 PM
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I’m against it as an Asian woman unless you understand and accept all the responsibilities that come with our culture. If you are talking about me personally its more cause I loved the time I spent in China and Taiwan, love spicy food, hate most white people food, and in general I like that most Asian countries are against drugs and emphasize safety. But I was answering for what the average guy might think. Asians often date Asians for a reason even in the west. Around 40% of asian women marry n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:11 PM
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Most women who might be a little overweight don’t look like that unless you live in a poorer smaller town/part of the city. are you not from the USA? The obesity rate even in NYC is 30%. Not sure how you can come to this conclusion unless you are in a different country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:58 PM
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Assuming the same BMI, with women average 5-6 inches shorter than men, I imagine, on average, they ARE lighter. But the study showed women need to be a lower BMI on average for the marriage to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:59 PM
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I'm not sure why knowing one out of every four women could be a prospect isn't enough/ No you don't get it. being a normal weight should be a default. When it's not the default, women feel special just for being a normal weight. So the standards of any looks is inflated. Men are never judged by the population, but by the minimum good standard. I cannot logically or realistically imagine a scenario in which it makes more sense to go to an entirely different continent, culture, language, lifestyle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:57 PM
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"fit people bar" https://www.today.com/health/health/peloton-instructor-slams-disgusting-fat-shaming-comments-facebook-rcna49387 The mental gymnastics !! Peloton is literally an advocate for fat acceptance now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:52 PM
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https://www.foxnews.com/health/how-weight-can-tip-the-scales-of-your-marriage Women need to be lighter then men for a happy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:51 PM
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Would you be against a guy passporting broing to Asia because he wants a larger pool of thinner women ? I mean 73% is a HUGE population, and there's like 15% morbid obesity too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:49 PM
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Don't date someone overweight. But that only leaves us with 27% of the options. Doesn't it make more sense to passport bro to Asia, if one is a healthy weight ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:48 PM
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Pear or hour glass shaped women can still be attractive to a wide range of men with a few extra pounds, and fitness level has less of an effect. Of course, I like those types of women myself. But often times though women end up like this https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/overweight-woman.html
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:47 PM
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97% of men are straight but gay guys don't have too much difficulty finding other gay guys to hook up with. That's because there's a thing called gay bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:46 PM
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Do you have a source to prove that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:44 PM
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This data is not great representation of the point you’re making. 20 and older could be 20-80, but how does this data represent the primary dating market(20s-30s). I linked this in a comment and it's in the CDC links of the source. 35% obesity in 25-35 age range, jumps to 40% after 35. While women tend to have a much better fat distribution, such as having it in the hips, thighs, breasts. That's only with genetics. That's not the default. Many women end up with large stomachs https://www.alamy.c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:43 PM
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also it's a good data on the reason for passport broing. Look at average weight in asia, lol. You don't need any other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:26 PM
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Obesity rates are similar across genders. Most thin people date other thin people. If you're thin you shouldn't have too much more difficulty finding another thin person. 27% vs 73%. You don't think those two are different sized pools ? Also you assume weight is unevenly distributed in the population. There's no fat or skinny neighborhoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:25 PM
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The primary "dating market" is for people in their 20s and 30s though, and even within that age range, probably the 25th percentile and up, so while I imagine this has an effect, it's not as straightforward as it might seem. https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5787880659cc6802a0cf8d22/1527713858193-W8KGKVH7U3OOQEL7PWDS/Age+Group+Bar+Chart.png obesity is still at 35.5% for 25-35 age group. and it reaches the same as other age groups at 35+.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:24 PM
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It’s always a bit strange when this sub focuses on obesity in women rising when men are getting fatter at a similar rate. If both sexes are just slightly heavier than they were 20 years ago it’s not going to effect anything in the dating world. men aren't affected by extra pounds looks wise as much as women are at lower level of being over weight example, bmi 29 as a man https://www.reddit.com/r/Brogress/comments/fv6w3n/m2959_200lbs_to_160lbs_4_months/ bmi of 30 or so in a woman https://myprogre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:22 PM
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given taxes are about 35% 65,000 with 0.5-1k for a bang is going to be very infrequent. It's going to need to drop to at max $200 or 150 to be reasonable on a semi-frequent basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:22 PM
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She spurted something about "sometimes people can have sex first and kiss later", but I was too far gone at that point, for some reason this whole kiss thing really threw me off my game. So some women actually do this as a way to not get attached in flings or hookups. I have seen it discussed a few times in a magazine before. You exchange bodily fluids less so you don't get as chemically attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:08 AM
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What kind of women do you know?! Women in the SF bay area. Some are ABGs, some are studying or working here from Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:04 AM
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betabux are fed up and becoming passport bros. They are too busy chowing down and banging women to be concerned about western women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:56 AM
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Since I'm on a college campus though, the girls I see may not be representative of most women. Yea college age doesn't have that much obesity. Most graphs I have seen for the ages 18-22 (college and not college educated) is like 15%, and even then its much more in the middle states. It jumps way up though at 25+
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:53 AM
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I didn’t passionately french kiss my partner on our first kiss, and turned my cheek on the first date, yet I would marry this guy tomorrow if he asked. Marriages are a poor indicator of spark or passion because they give women all the benefits. Child support, alimony, taking half the assets, no fault divorce. Do you have passionate sex now ? Do you swallow for him ? If so then I will admit you gladly proved me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:48 AM

Men don't risk being pregnant. Pregnancy is inherently painful, risky, and can potentially give a woman physical issues for the rest of her life. Plan B pill and abortion . Yes men don't risk being pregnant but they risk legally being the father. Men are required to pay on average less than $500 a month in child support, and the majority of men aren't even paying what they owe in full. Nope, men or the non custodial parent always pay the greater share https://www.maritallaws.com/states/californi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:46 AM

didn’t disprove that women are multifaceted humans who live life and do not cease to function without men. Your statement is certainly correct. However being "single" is a little different for men and women. Women tend to still date and have flings while single. Men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:34 AM

Women are usually only happy being "single" AFTER already getting validated in dating/sex and deciding that they want to take a break from it. Women still have casual flings while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:32 AM

We get all the risks of sex and usually none of the benefits. Men and women have the same risks from sex, as long as child support laws are in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:31 AM

so let me get this straight: a woman's 'single life' still means ocassionally getting dicked? It most certainly does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:30 AM

True, I agree. As a guy I can say that even at 27 I have never touched a woman beyond a handshake. Get a passport Get a plane ticket to Thailand Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:29 AM

at the in-laws purely to please her or her parents - fuck that. Thats selfish. Don't you care enough about a woman to get to know her family ? With asian girls this is actually an advantage though. If you get her family to like you it's a major plus for your relationship. With my last girlfriend she used to get me to talk and ask things from her parents lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:27 AM
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nor do they have to as some indicator of physical chemistry. While people can have different indicators of physical chemistry, they do have them. The problem with your stance is people can have no physical chemistry indicators, which is false. Like we can say if she doesn't swallow she's not that into him. Yea, maybe that's a bit more universal ,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:31 AM
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yea i realized the right question is if she swallows or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:58 PM
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Ok view changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:49 PM
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fair enough, view changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:44 PM
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tongue your dick before French kissing you This is interesting, so you would legitimately, if you liked a man lot, blow him instead of french kissing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:43 PM
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Yea I'm not religious sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:43 PM
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Succesful career. You can buy as much sex as you want and women loooove rich guys, even if they are not attractive. You cannot buy love, sure, but in this day and age it doesn't really exist anymore. But in most cases your going to need more than just $100k to do that in a really satisfying way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:42 PM
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Is $400k enough to make someone who looks like a potato attractive? I make $300k which will likely go even higher if i get my next promotion as a software engineer. The problem is it's not about amounts. It's about class. The thing about America or at least some areas is tons of people will still shops at the same stores less wealthy people do, thus the "middle to upper middle class" is very , very big. Getting to the true upper class is difficult , in some areas it's not possible to due the way…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:38 PM
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I am counting blow jobs and hand jobs as part of N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:33 PM
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ohhhh, yea in that case she's probably lost / not sure of herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:24 PM
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Tongues are gross. And when a guy can kiss passionately without just resorting to licking your tonsils, it's a much better kiss. Fair enough. Different people might like running hands through hair, etc. But we can approximate this instead as a "make out" Do you agree if a woman doesn't make out on the first kiss or hold it for say a good amount of time, she's not that into the guy OR needs more time to feel it out?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:13 PM
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Why are you so adamantly against the possibility that some women just don’t like tongue kissing? Because most people do tongue kiss eventually. That's a very standard activity. Only in this sub it's controversial lol. Some people have skat fetishes too. Doesn't mean that's any where near the ordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:12 PM
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that you're going to feel something like that with someone you've just met unless you're faking it for the romantic fantasy. You are aware i said first kiss, not first date. You might not kiss until the sixth date, but when you do, it tests the waters of physical chemistry .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:10 PM
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I’m not making out unless I want it to led to the next thing. But would you agree if a woman does passionately kiss / make out, that means she does want to take it to the next level ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:07 PM
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but I don't think it's good to make blanket judgements about women who don't fit your type. This isn't making a judgement though. It's using chemistry as a measure of interest. We could make variations of it, like if the kiss lasts longer than X period of time, or who breaks it off first, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:06 PM
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For people arguing some don’t like tongue in general, it can be replaced with intimate grinding, moaning, aggressiveness etc. Yea if that's truly the case for a woman (meaning likes it with nobody), then one can measure how long the first kiss is or who breaks away first. In my experience, if i'm the one that breaks it off after a good 15-20 seconds, definitely means she's into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:03 PM

using autism as an insult is a form of hate speech, just so you know
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:53 PM
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I like tongue kisses but i don’t do that on the first date, It's the first time you kiss, not the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:52 PM
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Attraction or interest =/= wanting to go further at that moment. A woman wouldn't want to go further if she wasn't passionately kissing a guy, so your argument is false since the contrapositive is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:51 PM
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this is only a kiss so being a slut or promiscuous should have nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:49 PM
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If your not that into the guy, then that makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:49 PM
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Yea sample size of n=6 is really something wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:48 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BlD0jg0F-NF/?hl=en she's 162 pounds, and 5'3" , that's 28.7 BMI the average bmi is 29.6 https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321003#:~:text=The%20BMI%20of%20the%20average,trend%20for%20the%20nation's%20health. so she's even still thinner than the average american woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:45 PM
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It's very standard to assume passionate kissing is a sign of sexual attraction. But who knows, the west has gone so hay wire these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:42 PM
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I don’t understand why OP doesn’t get how weird of an assumption that is So assuming that passionate kissing is a sign of sexual attraction is weird ? Lord, this is why passport bros exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:39 PM
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Assuming that a woman wants to have sex with you at that very moment because she kisses you passionately is a very good way to never see her again. Hasn't been my experience at all. Seems like you are just trying to say things for the sake of them to confuse men, or aren't arguing in good faith .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:38 PM
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My first kiss with my bf was an awkward peck because we were both too nervous to properly go for it (and we were in public so I obviously wasn’t going to start going for it). Some of y’all need to chill. I'm not really talking about teenagers but none the less that's a good counter point to my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:35 PM
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Too much tongue feels so gross as an initial kiss. It gives me the ick real quick. Like it's the kissing equivalent of sticking it in with no foreplay But that sounds like bad kissing. You don't just jam your tongue in there. You start with lips and ease in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:34 PM
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What if she is really really into you but because of this she's shy/nervous? Ok that's an excellent point. hmmmm, if it was due to inexperience, you definitely got me there. Outside of that though i would be skeptical. What if she thinks she will get carried away and it's too soon? I mean unless she's religious I don't see how this isn't just a way of saying she's not interested. Remember this is not first date, it's first kiss. It could happen on the sixth date even. Don't men prefer low N wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:33 PM
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I want sex right then and there just because we have a passionate first kiss Oh to be clear i don't mean you instantly want PIV, i mean open to going further, like to second base. Like obviously women need foreplay etc. I'm on the larger side too so trust me i get it when women need time to "open up" no pun intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:29 PM
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Are you allowing at all for the possibility that she may be inexperienced with kissing and has no idea what the fuck is going on No because I am 28 and dont date teenagers lol. But sure if we considered teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:15 PM
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Some people don’t like tongue kissing. False. Or extreme outliers. like 1 in 100,000 rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:05 PM
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Still doesn’t mean what you think it means. I know fully what it means though. Women don't like to admit when they are horny because they are judged for it. I know that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:05 PM
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You can't kiss someone passionately the first time because you barely know each other. Of course you can. Not sure what your culture is like but this happens all the time. You don't need to know someone at all for chemistry to be there or not. You only need to know someone to feel more safe around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:03 PM
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liking someone isn't really the same as chemistry. chemistry is a straight up spark of excitement. A kiss is a test of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:01 PM
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Okay, but you would probably fall into these categories then woman accepts kiss but doesn't let tongues touch, only inner lips -> unsure about him, needs more time to feel things out woman accepts kiss, lets tongues touch, but doesn't extend her tongue into his mouth -> good chemistry, but not too high of spark, more lovey feelings I don't see what you are disagreeing with, these mean u like him but need more time to feel things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:57 PM
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I’m making out with them that it’s “very likely” that I want it to “go further to sex at that very moment” It's not just making out, its the intense version, with the hand on the back of head with tongues going in and out, maybe even with a little moaning. See the chart i made.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:55 PM
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Some women have rules where they don't kiss the guy on the first date. It's the first kiss, not the first date. It could be on the 6th date even.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:51 PM
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and your like " okay so this is done" It's more like she feels that way then the man does. Why do you think tongue kissing isn't a sign of chemistry ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:51 PM
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Nobody wants to french kiss for their first kiss. That's not true obviously. I hate it when men use too much tongue. Doesn't mean I'm not attracted to him I just think tongues taste like wet paper mache and I don't like it. So do you ever like tongue kissing , even during sex ? Are there other ways you express chemistry physically ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:44 PM
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Ick. I'm a guy and I don't even want to kiss women I barely know on the first date, This is about the first kiss, not the first date. The first kiss could be on the fifth or sixth date. Or the tenth. The point is the first kiss is the true test of chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:31 PM
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Why before the weight gain ? Average woman in USA is overweight / obese
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:30 PM
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No it isn’t a sign that she’s DTF. It's for sure not consent of course, but it's a very likely indicator she wants sex. Women do not go to strange mens homes and drink for no reason, they are not stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:27 PM
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Number Two doesn't know what she wants. OP doesn't know what he wants. A woman going over to a stranger's house from a swiping app and drinking is very likely DTF. Also asking to kiss indicates lack of awareness of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:09 PM
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OP, i think the problem is likely you dont feel comfortable being intimate with women or are unsure about it. The reason i say this is if you kiss a woman and she's avoiding tongue / switching to a peck / breaking it off quickly without reason, it means there's no spark there. But sometimes this can be promoted by a lack of self esteem . For the second woman, this part sticks out to me. Matched with a woman and she comes over for wine and board games. She very clearly isn't looking for a hookup,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:08 PM
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Disagree. I know feminist media loves to portray all women as bad ass ball busters who run private equity firms and bench 300 pounds, but in reality women do crave and need male attention to some degree. So men do have a control over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:10 PM
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I thought humility was supposed to be attractive If you are going for asians then yes, more so if they are immigrants But outside of that , no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:44 PM

I don't think you understand, when I mean remarkable it means you get attention in public just for being tall. It's also called the "looking up" effect. In my experience you need to be at least 6'5" to get women just for your height in spite of everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:33 AM
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You can actually give yourself permission to act confidently and like an alpha male right now, you don't need justification. You don't need achievement. You are already who you are. You have achieved being you. The problem is psychologically you need to convince yourself that you can be confident. Barring mental disorders, we cannot instantly switch our thoughts. We have to do certain things to convince ourselves of it. In a basic manner, fear exists because we cannot simply be unafraid. We have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:10 AM
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For non-psychopaths, confidence is a strong sign of competence, which is why it is attractive. It's not about psychopaths. It's about ignorance. Stockton Rush is a good example of a very confident , incompetent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:06 AM
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If you needed your car brakes fixed, would you rather have a highly confident car mechanic who didn't know wtf he was doing? Or a competent one who could get the job done? I'd rather choose the latter than die in a fiery car crash when my brakes don't work. Any form of engineering has zero respect in the west . Look at all the flak zuckerberg gets, or most engineers do. Nobody even knows who invented the email. Mean while there's whole groups of Chinese tourists worshipping the facebook sign in …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:03 AM
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What male issue is not being taken seriously at university? Lack of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:45 AM
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For one, escorts ive spoken too actually refused to do the "go on dates a few times" thing. They demanded money, for sex, or else nothing. They even told me no kissing, no handholding, etc. You need to go to Thailand or SE Asia for this experience. You can get a girl for a whole day or more with enough money and she will do all the lovey stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:58 AM

to take advantage of women from poor areas, or who didn't have the education that the people in your video Education has nothing to do with being able to be taken advantage of or not. Some of the highest profile rape / sexual assault cases come from the most prestigious universities like Brock Turner and Stanford You are just looking for a rationalization of why passport broing is somehow an embodiment of these problems, but its a black and white fallacy. Men will look for women to take advantag…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:21 AM

are really poor and look for women to take advantage of, who don't know any better you really need to stop speaking for people from other countries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wboL5GXlUig
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:42 PM

and not just one person claiming their personal experience is an experiment now. Are chemists mixing new compounds not doing experiments because it's just them doing it ? Look, I do get where you are coming from, but problem is this isn't at all a serious debate sub. I have posted studies with samples sizes of 30-40k people and many come up with excuses like "7 years ago is too old" or "not enough sample size".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:40 PM
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There's a sizable population of Korean Christians in the USA, but besides that, yea mostly Philippines are christian
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:14 AM
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understandable but “overweight” BMI can even be in really fit muscular women Sure, but I think what you mean is something like this https://www.instagram.com/p/Cuia8b_sYLI/ which is hot, but by medically overweight i mean they look like they would show up in weight loss commercials , maybe like https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/03/07/18/87/360_F_307188709_VnmyfKpYdX8kcEeOCbkeabxIAkMRLW1g.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:10 AM
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However, I'm curious if you actually checked the nationality of the matches you got from Singapore and Taiwan. Yes, the vast majority in Singapore were of Chinese ethnicity , either Singapore citizens or PRC nationals. There were. a chunk of Malay girls too, with some Indians as well. Taiwan was ,mostly taiwanese and also a chunk of thai women (seems to be them studying there)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:45 AM
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The average American woman is 5'4 / 170lbs The person u replied to is a British man in the UK speaking about American women who moved to the UK or American women teaching abroad in former British colonies. Likely a very different crowd of American then back home at IHOP lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:42 PM
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You're telling a sexless guy who has issues with other cultures In my experience, its rare these two things both exist in the same guy in the context of the USA or a western nation. "Issues with other cultures" generally is people who are big on drugs, guns, prison reform, or fat acceptance (meaning tess holiday level) They have extreme behaviors that wouldn't really be accepted in other cultures. sexless or near sexless men tend to be men who haven't well fit into the current culture in some wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:20 PM
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Just because someone was born in a poor country doesn’t mean they don’t have similar views and values. Yea, the Philippines was a colony of the USA for like 50 years, and a lot of them have a very high opinion of the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:03 PM
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Have you here of Philip Scott on youtube ? He has a lot of videos about passport broing for black guys and also guys of all races, but he has good examples of black men doing well in thailand / philippines
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:01 PM
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Very fair points. I might do another study with Bumble or Hinge as a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:43 PM
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It's not socialist in the stalinist or fundamental sense but elements of sweden like Systembolaget alcohol rules or the anti-flying movement will make it feel very socialist. What I mean is, in China you can see a gucci / chanel store below some banner displaying the communist party symbol. It's laughable . A place can be culturally socialist or capitalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:16 PM
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and i guess the downside to passporting is that some people want a partner who's like them, same race, same culture, etc Thats valid but thats still possible for non white men. I have heard of Black guys going to African nations to find women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:30 PM
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Why do you doubt it ? Singapore is largely modeled after the west. ITs official language is English, all the apps / movies they watch are from the USA. Their government and military are modeled after western nations. Look in singapore subs and asks how ang moh do there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:29 PM
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The worst are the Finns. have to keep warm somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:18 PM
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For some reason some men have deluded themselves into thinking Asian women are subservient and docile. Correct but asian women are more comfortable being feminine and cute then western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:05 PM
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I wonder if something about your profile was particularly off putting to western women, and attractive to Asians. Shower thoughts on this: Some western women don't like "cute" culture, while Asians love it. It might be the picture of the capybara + koala that might tilt toward Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:37 PM
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His profile without even seeing it comes off corny. I swipe left on anything like that you don't like capybaras ?!?!? :o
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:32 PM
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If he's referring to SF (my city), I do believe him. SF has a raver culture thats very popular with Asians, and there's a decent chunk of Asians which want to date other Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:22 PM
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Depends though, Women like this https://www.instagram.com/p/CVnoyz8hKft/ might be slightly in the overweight BMI category
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:17 PM
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But to toss out women who are “medically overweight” is pretty shallow. A piece of paper could say a woman is overweight by the BMI test but that test is not accurate at all. Medically overweight here means where a woman looks unhealthy or "whale" like. I am actually more into thicker / curvy women on average. Like even this woman https://www.instagram.com/emmahaggstrom/ is pretty attractive in my view. The woman I would reject are sort of like tess holiday https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:14 PM
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I have my Indian bf (I'm also Indian) Yea that comment you replied to is salty. All my managers at work in the USA have been indian , would really love to visit !
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:03 PM
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Russian women are something else. Even the daughters of the old farts in the kremlin are stunning https://twitter.com/B52Malmet/status/1504892775808086018
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:59 PM
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If you're rich enough to fly around multiple countries This is a tinder experiment with the passport feature. I didn't leave my house to do this. You must have a personality no one can stand. saltiness detected. Why would a rescue a woman from a brothel when i can match with educated, beautiful women in Singapore or Taiwan?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:14 PM
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Your responding to a British guy speaking about American women who moved to Britain, probably a very different crowd then whats native in the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:06 PM
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as he hinted about a bias against Americans - and I think it would be helpful to know if the bias (as far as it even exists) is against Americans or more Middle-eastern looks. I don't think it's racial bias. I think it's bias against traditional gender roles or wealth. A swedish woman explain elsewhere in the comments here. The pic of me in the suit and in the biz class seat might have put them off. Sweden is unique as both a liberal and socialist nation compared to the rest of Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:48 PM
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singapore: the area around singapore is poor and it might be that poor women are setting their location to singapore. and maybe they easily can get to singapore for a date. i'm not sure how the border work there. Nearly all the women i matched with in Singapore were either Singaporean citizens or PRC nationals. if you're goal is to get married, no, i don't think you should passport brro. So marry a whale from the USA instead? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:44 PM
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Passport bird treat people like meat, I think u are confusing andrew tate for a passport bro. Passport bro is just men moving abroad for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:37 PM
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I don't get why people are challenging you . Most Americans at least do not know anything about Sweden beyond whats at Ikea or Alfred Noble. Sheeh, i apologize for them in advance on my behalf :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:36 PM
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You seem to be defining success solely in terms of short-term results on OLD. Because that's an excellent indicator of how someone will do in the dating market. And it's the only way to easily quantify it. In many cases they bring her to the U.S., she feels lonely and isolated due to not being able to speak the language Did you even read my post ? The official language in Singapore is English, Singapore is wealthier than the USA (yet they still love hollywood movies and democracy), and I haven't…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:49 AM
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Would you mind posting the Tinder bio you used? "The best thing in life is accomplishing something you once thought was impossible" And the option for relationship "looking for short term, open to long term" an attractive gf with a great personality It could be that the USA tends to have higher standards for casual sex, and tinder is more used for casual sex, where Asian countries might not view tinder as strictly for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:44 AM
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A software engineer just needs to know how to communicate in whatever programming language he's using, aside from that maybe send some emails to the internal team and attend zoom meetings with the camera off. Your using a stereotype to prove your point. I zoom with customers several times a week to diagnose issues in their environment lol. Also meet with sales engineers, product managers, etc. But again, in the USA, people go by feels, not what creates a better life or future. Looks are valued e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:38 AM
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All those fancy degrees and you still don't know how to make a valid inference. An n of 1 does not an experiment make. Neither does "testing" something let you make inferences about something else This is an N of 5000 . Did you not read my post ? If you aren't interested in challenging my view please do not comment here, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:14 AM
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Given the nature of the professions Joe is less likely to be socially awkward than Henry as well so he's already up on looks and personality. Social takes different meanings for different people. America is full of drugs, so a lot of socialization revolves around them. Singapore and many asian countries are drug free societies , so socialization values different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:12 AM
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I don't get how you base your conclusions on dating in the west as a whole based off possibly two of the worst cities to date in. NY and LA are only topped by Miami in that category imo. Can you elaborate on why these cities are the worst for dating ? Cities generally offer the most people, which is why I chose them for this experiment. However it's not necessary. Personally I'm a highly educated, high earning, healthy weight man and I found love in the states (with someone I find attractive and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:08 AM
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I wonder if Singaporeans use Tinder more to find relationships while westerners use Tinder just for hookups and Hinge for relationships. Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, CMB are the most popular ones. Most of the ones I matched with in Singapore said they are open to short term relationship or long term relationship. Not many said short term fun. Only 5's and 6's in New York? That's what you'd expect for casual only There were three 8's and one 9, but all were immigrants (three were korean, one was brazil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:05 AM
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LOL did u confuse Taiwan and Thailand ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:57 AM
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top tier guys shouldn't struggle in the west either, so its a matter of personal preference In the abstract, yes, but culture warps what is the top tier. Joe the personal trainer at 24 hour fitness with an amazing physique is more recognized as top tier than Henry the tall software engineer who went to a top school in the USA. But flipped in Asia or possibly other places too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:53 AM
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that is desperate enough to sleep with you for money? Taiwan is a first world country. Even makes most of world's semiconductors
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:44 AM
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8’s and 9’s in Taiwan don’t exist, Oh my, someones triggered. you can’t get women in your own is rather pathetic. Sour grapes are here I see. I just said I can get them, but I can get 10x as many in other countries. What are you xenophobic ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:06 AM

Oh yea, for sure. Those are excellent too. I just didn't want people to claim it's for a green card / money too much in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:01 AM
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Did you read my post ? We are talking what is the best option. I did match with some 5's and 6's . in NY. But it's nothing to compare to the 8's and 9's in Taiwan and Singapore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:00 AM
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I was surprised by singapore since it's a wealthy country. Singapore is unique because its modeled after the west in many ways. Official language is English, almost all the cinema / music is from the USA / Hollywood, all the services / social media is the ones made in USA. But there's very few white people in Singapore. So these factors plus asians valuing education / smarts over power the wealth aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:59 AM
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you can actually score white women a couple of points above your own level just because single white men in Sing and HK who aren't just dating Asians are a scarce resource for them. This is interesting, didn't think of this before. Definitely will try this out next time I am in Singapore (hopefully moving there for a job but lets see)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:46 AM
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where I feel like people are into me just because I'm "exotic" in comparison to local men A lot of intense attraction women have to men takes forms of that though. Things like huge ripped / tall athletes, gangsters with tattoos, represent a form of exotic nature. Women often need a story or narrative about men to be really drawn to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:42 AM
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ohhh ok so you are in the UK, referring to American women in the UK ? Then you might have a bit of an advantage for being the Brit those women might have come to the UK for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:39 AM
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For the record when you control for weight white American women can be very attractive. Easily among the top of the western countries. I can agree to that or see where you are going, I personally overall like non whites better. I'm also in my 30s so I'm looking for something serious and I don't want to settle down with someone non white. Have you had an easy or hard time finding gorgeous white women in America ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:27 AM
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Also note: while it's not possible to weigh people in a picture, the metric i used here is any woman with a large stomach or noticeably large fat accumulation in the abdomen would be considered too overweight or obese, like https://as1.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/02/41/69/66/1000_F_241696679_jOBBQKLxTZtVR0lwPPj7gaJCMiDulrtK.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:23 AM
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Pietro Boselli https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Apex_fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:07 AM
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Nobody is taught to date. Women are taught to date though cosmopolitan magazines.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:50 PM
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She knows within 5 seconds of looking at you if she’s attracted to you, this cannot be built, forced, or changed. You are confusing initial openness to chemistry. Yes, within first 5 seconds a woman considers if she is "possibly interested" in going further with you. But there's still divets and bumps along the way to intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:50 PM
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Popular sports in the rest of the world seem to be slightly more suitable for normal-sized people. Yup. Then you look at Asian countries, Thailand with Muay Thai , or China / Japan with Table tennis, the greatest players in those , Buakaw and Ma Long, at 5'9". Above average for the population but proportional. Lebron James is 6'9". That's almost a foot taller than the average american guy at 5'9"-5'10". Shaq is 7'2". Yao Ming was 7'6". and yea NFL players are insane tanks. 6'1" but 320 pounds ? …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:41 PM
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ronaldo and kane are 6'2", zlatan is 6'4" i believe. Tall guys for sure, but not giants. https://www.espn.com/soccer/team/squad/_/id/364/liverpool But the average height for pro football teams for soccer i mean is a lot lower than the average height of the NBA (6'6") or the NFL (6'3")
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:26 PM
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A direct approach has no plausible deniability . "Hello there, I noticed you look really handsome from a distance and thought to come over and chat"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:19 PM

Become a passport bro, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:08 AM
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Congrats on NATO membership. Glad to have sweden in the alliance !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:03 AM
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The problem with America is the sports culture. You have both the NBA and NFL which host giants and play them on national television and make them celebrities. Meanwhile Europe is mostly footballers which are closer to reasonable body sizes. Look at Messi.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:51 AM
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lol sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:53 AM
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Just look at the past 5 threads on this topic in the. past week here. Find 1 thread where passport bros say they don't want women showing skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:40 AM
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still mostly best friend and platonic (except for the 2 quickies but ...) When you say quickie u mean a sexual quickie ? Like 10 minute sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:50 PM
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I have had close female friends but they were always women that would acknowledge me as a cool / fun / attractive guy in some way. It's hard to describe it in words, but I wouldn't be friends with a woman who was repulsed or intensely repelled by the idea of me as a sexual being.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:45 PM
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I think you are making up a false group of people that do not exist. passport bros are all over youtube partying with hot thai or columbian women wearing sexy outfits at clubs lol. Just take a stroll through bangkok sukhumvit at night and you see tons of women wearing sexy outfits. Men with an issue with women wearing revealing clothing are in the religious world or converting to islam, not passporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:40 PM
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It means that your league are obese women. Date them. If the population is unbalanced then thats a population and location problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:36 PM
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increasingly absolutely nothing in a western world without third places and technological dependency. What does the west have to do with it ? Note: I am all for passport bros , but curious how does location relate to putting yourself out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:33 PM
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You have to define what does struggle as dating mean , and what is a reasonable standard. Omaha, NE, you are 5'9'', not fat, in your early 30s, white, and not bald. Nebraska is over 61% obese . So if a person who is not even fat is struggling in Nebraska, then they are not below average, they are above average but competing amongst a smaller dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:32 PM
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any man getting approached is probably in a league of his own Women do not directly approach. This is the key thing. They look for a way to start a conversation about some random ass topic, but you have to have the game / skill to carry it and match their expectations. One time on the bus back from SF, a gorgeous woman sitting next to me suddenly asked me what I was coding on my laptop (had it out on my lap), and then a bit later she was telling me she was going to go check out this bar right by…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:19 PM
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No. I’ve never had a friend like that where it did not at some point become not platonic. But were these friends that became romantic relationships, or they were friends that were then later rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:46 PM
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The second one developed feelings for me and ghosted when I didnt reciprocate. And women say men should stay friends with a woman after they reject him.... such hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:42 PM
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You do realize there are massive groups of people who claim gender, sexuality, and more is all a social construct right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:12 PM
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2 for sure. 4 is good too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:09 PM
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I’m a little bigger than the middle bottom but with same breast size (all natural) and it hurts to hear that we’re perceived as unattractive just because we have a little tummy. little tummy is always fine lol. the upper limit of curvy is higher than whats shown here for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:13 AM
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curvy hands down. my favorite: https://www.instagram.com/p/CuW_RLwR7Rl/?img_index=1
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:01 AM
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but 90%+ of women don’t want anything to do with a 9-10 inch penis, at that size it’s literally worthless other than for porn. Tell yourself whatever you need to bro ​ https://www.popbuzz.com/celeb/pete-davidson-penis-size-how-big-length/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:49 PM

I never been to the bay area bro. I don't know what you're talking about. Good, do not come here , unless you want dating to suck for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:36 PM

Think of the usual dynamic in bay area. It's not like her job would be something most guys would have trouble with per se You forget must tech companies have sales and finance guys which are considered more suave and suitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:36 PM

Are you saying a man who freaks out about his wife working in a male dominated field and insists on keeping her at home is not a controlling lunatic? That's like 2/3 of the world's population lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:33 PM
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It was her second time having sex in her life. Inexperienced girls can't really be prepared for that lol That proves my point even more. See a woman who would be scared or anxious about sex would be paranoid about sex with an average penis. But the moment she saw his massive dong, she salivated and opened her kitty for his pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:49 AM

My own relationship started as "friends with benefits", Friends with benefits aren't really the same as situationshops. FWB has a discussed state of things, situationships are undiscussed . They are just casual sex plus dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:48 AM

OP, you are over thinking this. Situationship is a term for women who are sharing a chad to feel like they are actually in a relationship with him when they aren't. It's a severe cognitive dissonance from what is truly happening, casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:47 AM

A situationship though is just a cognitive dissonance of having casual / uncommitted sex. While labeling is frivolous, the choice of it being similar in structure to relationship shows women are trying to disguise casual sex as relationships or pretend they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:44 AM
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The data doesn't note how many of the users use height filter. Naturally women who care less about height may not use it at all. Possibly 99% of women care about height https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/after-service/201909/5-reasons-why-women-and-men-care-about-height Women consistently show in many studies strong height preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:33 AM
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This is real data released by bumble. Unless you can prove it's fake, this is a pointless case to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:30 AM
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Do you think it's common for men to be rejected before sex but after their partner saw them naked? Or that women somehow have x-ray vision and can see who has a big penis before deciding to hook up? I mean when you make out and a guy gets hard a girl can feel how big it is roughly. Also the guy might have said he has a huge one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:28 AM
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For like 20 seconds, not even getting close to any kind of finish mam that's an N-count, it don't matter if it was 1 second. She literally rejected him Men with average penis sizes aren't rejected by getting 20 seconds inside lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:08 AM
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even though it'd be a number fewer women prefer. I'm not saying that's the case, just that you cannot tell women's favored height from this data. I can see why you came to this idea, but mathematically this would only be the case if the graph was a hill / pyramid shape, where both the sides are more or less equal in angle. But that's not the case at all. The entire graph is heavily concentrated to one side of the most popular included height. This means the ranges women chose are most ranging on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:06 AM
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I love when people here use data from dating apps when it’s a known fact that most women aren’t on dating apps. Bumble has 50 million active users and 3:1 male to female ratio. https://helplama.com/bumble-revenue-usage-statistics/#:~:text=Bumble%20revenue%20amounted%20to%20%24903.5,of%20Bumble%20users%20are%20female. So around 13 million women. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/ There's around 30 million women in the USA between the ages of 20-35, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:59 AM
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how she met up with a guy from an app, he had a very big penis, they tried to have sex but she couldn't He got to stick his penis in her vagina. That's not rejection lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:56 AM
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But see "upper limit" means like who you would auto-reject or turn down because of that. For example, weight is obviously there a point on either end a guy will just reject a woman if she's 300+ or under 90 pounds. Or like, the number of guys who would turn down this woman https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct89_9AouGh/ is a lot higher than guys who would turn down a DD cup woman. Now, compared to women, I have never seen a man been auto-rejected or rejected fast for being too tall. I would imagine a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:14 AM
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It's not a fucking "strawman" to call that out. You used the words, not me. Did I trigger you ? What you did is exactly a strawman. You used a concept that doesn't exist that makes the argument easy to disprove. But this argument was never about 4 foot long penises. I recommend reading on what a strawman is so you can engage in debate in a more effective manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:34 AM
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It’s also key to factor in that Bumble is kind of elite-y That's true. I noticed bumble has this "boss babe" or "founder babe" feel to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:31 AM
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80% of women on one dating app who cared enough about height to use filters for it. Bumble has 50 million users in 2023, and almost all women use height filters. You are really playing mental gymnastics here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:30 AM
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At 6’6 it starts found down. Hence there’s an upper limit. But everyone from 6'11" to 6'6" is still more selected than the 6' guy. That's the point. And why does it matter if it’s metics like weight or height or metrics lien “HB 10” face and body vs “HB 6” face and body? Because the number of women who a man would consider a 9 or 10 is much much higher than the 6'6" man. Let's do the math. https://johnmjennings.com/how-many-people-are-7-foot-tall/ 6'6" height is in the 99.89% in height for 19 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:12 AM
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Women don't want four foot long penises. Are you straw manning here ? It's obvious there's no 4 foot penises, but there's definitely a large amount of women who like 9-10 inch penises for sure https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b1a779582f4d816153866f2689b57278-lq . Also most dildos are made large. If you took even half a second to think about it you'd have realized it before you made it. Did you not see my bumble source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:58 AM
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The heights taper off after 6’5ish becaus There's not really a taper off though until 7 feet. The 6'11" guy was still more included than the 6 foot guy by like 7 %. and every man puts the upper limits of 9s and 10s as opposed to 6s 7s and 8s? A 9 or 10 for a man in most cases is subjective and not defined in quantitative traits. For example if men like fake boobs, there's an upper limit to what gets the most appeal, and it comes sooner than later likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:56 AM
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as an example, i have been told by most of my male friends https://www.instagram.com/p/CoSHB09p8ll/?img_index=1 this woman's hips are too wide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:29 AM

Any healthy weight, average height guy who's an above average earner has no reason not to be a passport bro. Literally no comparison in terms of options if a man earns good money and isn't fat , abroad vs the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:36 AM
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OP, as someone who has used prostitutes overseas several times, I disagree because a lot of American men view sex from a puritanical perspective. Instead of viewing sex as a sensation, experience, or thrill, they view it as a moral condition where it has to be met with certain conditions or else it' s "not real since he's getting paid for it". It's like comparing a home-cooked meal to an expensive dinner with premium ingredients. Both are great in their own ways. That's the issue. A lot of men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:01 PM
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Nope. It's an American thing. Look at perhaps the two most famous gay men in the world: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/17/designer-stefano-gabbana-tired-labelled-gay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:44 PM
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close male friendships with deep emotional bonds are inherently “gay”. This is only possible when people stop flying rainbows and pride balloons everywhere. The countries where this actually happens is where you don't have huge gay cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:18 PM
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Why is 4 and 5 bad ? A woman who's older and keeping herself in shape and beautiful is emphasizing femininity. It looks like FDS is right, You cannot prove Lauren is doing anything FDS is suggesting. I have actually seen FDS suggest against plastic surgery or dressing slutty at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:23 PM
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sexualizing themselves to random men is not girlfriend material. Are you a muslim ? Going to the gym and working out is keeping your body feminine, not sexualizing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:20 PM
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I think the issue is, people often talk about equality and incomes etc, but thats been around for a long time. I mean since the 1980's women have had their own careers and stuff. The real difference in the last 10-15 years is social media. Social media has allowed more young people to communicate ideas about fat acceptance, feminism, equality, etc. This allowed young people to have their own media ecosystem and promote more progressive and feminist ideas, more so than major news paper outlets or…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:48 PM
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Men and women no longer need each other, so there is no rush to jump into a relationship. People can pursue education, careers, or hobbies they want. But this has been the case since the 1980's . Why are we seeing more changes in the last 10 years or so ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:43 PM

Men are not being demonized, human and sex trafficking is. Male sex workers are also more protected under this law but do to demographics, women are more likely to benefit. Male sex workers that are not trans women do not exist in the USA. Also this law doesn't all men to report battery or assault or theft by a female sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:39 PM

OP, I agree that legalizing selling sex but not buying it is misandry, but maine doing it is not intended to be misandry on any effective level. The only thing maine is known for is lobsters. But it's a "liberal" state. So a lesser known liberal / blue state is trying to get more national recognition by doing something "woke". They aren't doing it to have some wide influence over men. Cause nobody goes to maine for shit lol. Now, if California did this ? That would be a much bigger thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:36 PM

How many prostitutes have other avenues to earn an income so they won’t be robbed, abused and beaten by clients? All of them. Any of them can get a job at the grocery store or walmart. There's record labor shortages across the nation because people dont want to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:33 PM

Buyers have little to no risks and adversities from buying sex while sellers have many. Buyers can be scammed, they can get an STD, they can get robbed by the provider, etc. list goes on. Also crime is not determined by risk but determined by law. There's no precedent for say decriminalizing bank robbery for say undocumented immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:32 PM
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sounds like a heavy contradiction to me. Think of it like this. If I have casual sex with a woman, I am not losing anything or trading anything except bodily fluids at most. I am using myself to get sex. If I have sex with a sex worker, I am losing monetary value . Any man, fat, old, etc. can trade that monetary value with the sex worker. But casual sex can only be had if you as a person are worthy of it. I don't trust that, just compare relationships with friendships, your friends aren't going …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:13 PM
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Let's think about the contrapositive and focus on the "unprompted" part. You are saying women don't like cat calling because it's unprompted. Now, see the video of the woman I linked in my OP. A gorgeous, sexy model. She leans over and sticks her bottom out in the bar stool. If she did that with a man sitting next to her, no man would call this "unprompted". The concept of cat calling being negative doesn't exist for men, thus the contrapositive to your argument also doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:07 PM
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Were you incapacitated by this incident or disabled by it ? Or did you make a full recovery from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:57 PM
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Unconditional love does exist. The mistake you make here is you assume a person cannot change, which they most certainly can. "Unconditional" refers to being based on a person, rather than a condition. If a person changes, love can change, because that person is not the same. there are conditions like: work on your looks, work on your confidence, be masculine/feminine, These are part of a person and who they are. If someone gains 300 pounds or switches genders , that person has changed. have a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:25 PM
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But we arent really talking about how much kissing and how much sex these men are getting, we are talking about what women find attractive. Nooooo this is the whole point of my post. Women can find things attractive yet develop no sexual thoughts or desires about said man. This is the most important part. Men do not make this separation, women do. This is why I talk about "stimulation" more than attractiveness. And swipes are a great indication, especially if those men only had shirtless pics. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:16 PM
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As a woman I like getting sent sexual photos of other women and men. So you are saying, that a random dude say on social media, sending you a pic of his penis, turns you on and makes you want that penis in real life? The difference is women like consent regarding these things and would prefer to be able to say yes or no to sexual advances. The very reason you need to say yes or no is because women are not sexually stimulated by the picture itself. This is the key point here. This is because wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:12 PM
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Explain why women hate getting dick pics then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:09 PM
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It leads to a recurring misunderstanding that women are not sexual or capable of finding things physically attractive in the same way. Women don't at all find things attractive in the same way . That's true. If it wasn't women would love having dick pics in their DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:40 PM
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men on dating apps that show nothing but their shirtless photos getting a very large amount of likes. The problem is likes/matches on dating apps do not translate to sex or at least kissing. Many women swipe on dating apps with no intention of meeting a guy. Similarly on r/Tinder you can see many cases of a swipe right , a match, but then the convo fails. In college I spent a summer renting a room in a frat house. One of the top frats on campus. Literally all the guys worked out a ton , what peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:39 PM
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Men do not have sexual turn offs to personality in women if sexual attraction to them exists. This is why for example onlyfans stars and IG glam models get away with being so obnoxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:34 PM
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They do? Tf are you talking about. Pornhub puts out statistics for what women look up the most. They simply consume less porn because they can walk outside and get laid with less than 5 minutes of effort. This is a slippery slope. You haven't shown the reason women dont watch porn hardly at all . You are taking two things and assuming one causes the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:16 PM
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Why aren't women watching porn with men like that fucking other women then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:10 PM
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Women care far more about appearance than men Why do women not like dick pics and porn is primarily consumed by men ? Why are erotica novels written mostly for women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:01 PM
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Women separate attractiveness and sexual stimulation. When I have asked threads about that here, women state they can see an attractive men and continue on their day. A man's height doesn't cause sexual thoughts instantaneously in most cases. But a woman's butt or boobs do for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:00 PM
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height is much more of a feeling when u are with a man. when he leans down to kiss you, when he overall seems larger than you. height has a psychological dominance effect. similar to why most world leaders are tall. ​ in contrast, men have almost no height preference in women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:54 PM
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How on earth is describing basic biology sexist ? Even feminists acknowledge the male gaze here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:26 PM
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Mods, i meant to say in the title casual sex is easy for women, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:04 PM
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Men don't get to define the standard for women thoug Uh, they do for heterosexual women at least. Just like women define standards for heterosexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:03 PM
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not wanting to date fat or promiscuous women and more so open scorn but there's a lot of people that view rejecting groups of people for dates as discrimination, https://www.yourtango.com/news/why-men-refusing-date-fat-women-not-same-women-refusing-date-short-men Then there's the whole concept of how someone can't have race based preferences, but don't want to derail. The point is people commonly associated dont want to date you == i hate you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:02 PM
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In general hypocrisy can tend to be an overused label that isn't applied in a meaningful way. Like I have seen it applied where a woman still wants man to be tall yet that counts as "body shaming". I think hypocrisy is when there's a serious contradiction in ideology at play, one that is completely opposite. A big one is preaching about 50/50 relationships but then wanting men to pay for dates and most things. That's a huge contradiction and definitely hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:00 PM

better to just avoid dating conventionally altogether What does conventional have to do with chemistry between two people ? What is described here is common for any heterosexual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:46 PM
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Friends do not hold each other an embrace in arms and stare into each others eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:44 PM
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Nobody is having sex for money when simply asking your parents for it is an option. Any sex work is always to increase ones earnings far above what they can currently make. It is never for basic necessities. This is a huge misconception about the economics for sex work. This is why sex work costs per hour much higher than any other wage job in a given country. Example, in Thailand you might find 1hr FS / BBBJ is $50-60 , but the average hourly wage is probably like $3-4. But no one in Thailand w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:57 AM
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I find attractive to hold me in her arms and to hold her in mine, for her to look me in the eyes while I gaze back into hers, and for us both to feel deeply, wordlessly in love with eachother in that moment. This is sexual gratification, not "emotional connection".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:42 AM
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Because of this they feel unloveable. They thus seek out sexual gratification as a temporary fill for what they truly seek. This becomes a habit. Shutting down emotions, seeking out false intimacy, etc etc Nope , nope and nope. Men seek out sex because they want to have sex. Men DO NOT need love or connection as a pre-requisite to sex. Men fall in love with prostitutes and porn stars all the time. Men need sexual gratification with women as an innate biological urge, which when blossoms into a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:39 AM
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Why would that be, when we are talking about perception. If you put a hot, beautiful woman, hugging a muscular, tall man, that woman is no longer attractive to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:39 PM
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Most men though aren't statistically short, meaning 5'7" or less. Nor are most men ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:31 PM
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hedonistic society that doesn't value discipline, restraint, and a sense of duty. I would say its more so about people not dating till they get older . An example I can think of is Kobe Bryant, who met his to be wife at 21, well before he had any success as an NBA player, and stayed with her throughout his career, till his unfortunate death. If he didn't have met someone good until he was in the NBA itself, might have been different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:30 PM

Does this make you salty? Not at all. I think people misunderstood this part. I fully support men earning big bucks and funding businesses for their wives. Any relationship where man earns a lot more i support,
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:54 AM

You can’t be serious. No, no software does all of that. Do you not have experience with business software ? I work at a huge tech company so here's what my company uses for our HR/administrative tasks: Workday -> everything pay / timeoff / sickday / working hours related Okta -> permission based portal for employees to login to Salesforce -> point of sale and customer support case management Atlassian -> work tickets and internal documentation Jobvite -> interviews and acquisitions list goes on.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:27 AM

You are experiencing confirmation bias or have a highly outlier social group. First of all women make up a third only of doctors and partners https://www.zippia.com/partner-jobs/demographics/#:~:text=37.7%25%20of%20all%20partners%20are,%25)%20and%20Unknown%20(5.3%25). https://hbr.org/2022/01/why-so-many-women-physicians-are-quitting ​ Second women doctors are quitting or greatly reducing hours in record numbers (second link). ​ So statistically higher powered business men and doctors are not lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:20 AM
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People ARE already in the circles they match with. Nope, disagree completely. I went to a mostly white, 96% high school. No attention whatsoever from women really I was into. Went to college, demographic shift, 40% asian, learned Mandarin and did immensely well with Asian girls overall. Post college, traveling to and working in China / Taiwan, basically slayed it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:33 AM
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You have to do accounting, marketing, take inventory, manage employees, pay bills and upkeep, perform maintenance, respond to customers, manage day to day cash flows, etc. These are never done by owners these days. They have software that keeps track of this. Or they hire personal assistants for $12 an hour. Being an entrepreneur is one of the hardest things you can do. It's crazy that you don't know that. It definitely is. Running a yoga studio bought by your sales VP hubby isn't called being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:57 PM
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Oh wow thats actually really cool! but yea anything like that isn't what I mean. "barry's workout" or "joe's juice bar" is more what I am focusing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:55 PM
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Where are you finding businesses that aren't turning profit in the city that are just being funded as hobbies?? Presidio, the mission, some along fremont street. Note I am mainly speaking of green juice bars, smoothie places (not jamba juice, the organic gluteen free ones), yoga studios, cycling classes, etc. I've seen restaurants that are booked out a year in advance have to shut down because they can't afford to operate business here. Those are the old ones from like decades ago. These are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:54 PM
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I think we are mixing mom and pop shops into city venues. The yoga studio next to that new condo building ? Thats run by staff, not the owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:51 PM
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How do you know this? Because how is it going to be financed via someone who would otherwise be a stay at home parent ? And when the husband is a director or VP at a big company ? People in this sub are so obtuse I swear sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:50 PM
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Is this like a toy / gift shop ? Thats a little different then, I assume this wasn't in a big city either ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:48 PM
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The owners of fitness studies aren’t working part-time. They absolutely are. these businesses do not turn profits most of the time and are just toys for rich women to own supported greatly by their rich husbands lol. I know 2 fitness studios in San Francisco that match this exactly. Cannot say names of course for doxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:01 PM
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You realize i'm talking about "smoothie" shops, not jamba juice right ? Like the green juice bars, such as https://sidewalkjuice.com/menu/ , these are not large franchises or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:00 PM
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I've known many women like the ones you're describing, and they worked just as much as their husbands, Do you mean salary or time ? There's no way its salary. There's no way you can open a business like a smoothie shop https://sidewalkjuice.com/menu/ such as this one in a city without huge upfront cash or very good credit lines with a bank for business loans. It's not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:58 PM
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Men are attracted to good looking (healthy, young, fertile) women. Those women need to be sexually available to said man. What is in her had, doesn't change her attractiveness. lol. It is a lie that men are somehow MORE attracted to crazier women. Men are absolutely attracted to women that do crazy things in bed. Hands down. Men love bareback, coming inside bareback, deep throat, all that. You are a fool to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:54 PM
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and if things break off,she can actually survive on her own. Via alimony yes. Otherwise no. These businesses aren't owned in their name.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:52 PM
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full-time professional careers. Doing what ? like a engineer / doctor / lawyer ? Or running the yoga studio.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:50 PM
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Wow this is fascinating, great find.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:49 PM
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I don't think women who open large businesses like that are fake working. These aren't large really. About 5-10 staff on average. But they are not going to do all that work for no reason just to say they have a job. Noooo, you missed the point. These women aren't doing this to be able to say they have a job. They are legitimately doing a job for sure, that they like. It's just they are able to do a job with a business that otherwise hardly profits or loses money because of the backing of the hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:48 PM
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Okay, so now that you’ve discussed less than 1% of the population, Its more than that. Go to your local fitness studios and see who the owners are. let’s get back to the rest of us who live in the real world. I mean its all relative right ? people here boast about private equity partners who love their stay at home husbands. We magnify what we like and minify what we dont like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:46 PM
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I don’t think running a shop is as easy as you make it sound. And yoga and fitness instructors usually teach more than one class or client a day. As mentioned regarding the shop, the husband helps her hire people to help her run it. What you’re talking about his a stay at home mom with a part time job. There is no mass conspiracy to label these women as equal financial contributors. No one is doing that. Everyone calls them what they are, which is stay at home mom with a part time job. No thats …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:35 PM
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You mean she rents out the space ? Then yea thats what i mean, just a SAH(W) "wife".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:20 PM
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Being a sugar baby on seeking arrangement isn’t taking advantage of a man. The men there KNOW they are expected to pay for sex. Right but there's ZERO legal basis for sugaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:48 PM
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find women and sleep with them under the premise that he will pay them to be his sugar babies Any form of sex for payment is not legal in the USA lol. What legal jurisdiction in your imagination do these cases exist in ? You have a severely deformed understanding of the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:48 PM
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LOL It’s not the same thing as saying “oh maybe I’ll have a relationship with her” and realizing you aren’t that into her after sex or explicitly saying you want NSA sex. It’s the intentional lie and manipulation. You are wildly claiming that saying you want a relationship and then lying about it makes sex rape ? Sorry I spit my coffee out reading this. There is no legal jurisdiction that has ever prosecuted or taken up any case considering that coercion. Taking your same logic, a woman using a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:47 PM
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Nope, someone who has low self esteem wont be confident about initiating sex .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:39 PM
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Like you said not the person or personality, but all that matters about us is being good in bed. What I meant is that a guy can still like and love the other parts of a BPD woman, but what draws him in is the sex part at first is all. Also I would say being hypersexual is in some ways antithetical to being an object. Initiation and seduction and confidence in sex don't seem to me like being an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:05 AM
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and see no issue in viewing the person you love as a sex object, Can you clarify what you mean by a sex object ? A lot of people throw around the terms object and objectification and use them to mean different things. I'm not blaming you for us hypersexualising ourselves. That's our issues and we need fucking help with that. But I am blaming you if you think it's in any way okay to treat the person you love like that, Are you referring to non-consensual things here though ? I am definitely only …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:18 AM
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You are confusing sociopath and BPD , as well as NPD. The video you linked is about sociopathy. Sociopath and narcissist are opposites of one another. BPD are not aware of how other people perceive their actions, nor do they care, they just like attention. Sociopaths seek to create a very specific image of themselves in other peoples eyes. A big example is the woman (a Chinese American) I dated. She had a software engineering position at a big company here in the bay and got herself fired over u…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:05 AM
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It's been estimated that approximately 1.6 % of adults in the United States struggle with BPD. The number may actually be much higher than that, and many experts believe that the correct number may actually be closer to six percenthttps://www.clearviewtreatment.com/resources/blog/how-common-is-borderline-personality-disorder/#:~:text=It's%20been%20estimated%20that%20approximately,be%20closer%20to%20six%20percent. A lot of people have borderline personality disorder, ​ and women with BPD are usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:57 AM
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I think the bigger problem is it can get dangerous when they go out of control. With my own experience the risky part was when she started following my boss and my teammates on social media because I was too busy for like one weekend on work stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:18 PM
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Borderlines aren't horny or enjoying sex. Borderlines use sex as a tool. Nothing less, nothing more. Nope. Your ideas are completely not founded in psychology or psychiatry. People with BPD are not aware or completely in sync with their actions or thoughts to use sex as a tool. You should learn more about mental health disorders: People with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) occasionally exhibit strong impulsivity, seduction, and excessive sexuality. For both men and women with BPD, sexual p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:17 PM
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"attraction." Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:15 PM
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Nah BPD women are typically physically hotter than average. Maybe they are closer to healthier weight? But the pure amount of sexual energy is what makes them attractive. Any woman who wants a man's semen as an actual snack will be more attractive to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:14 PM
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And ive eaten pussy from an addict, doesnt mean id recommend that to anyone. But you do you I thought you needed your wife to be a virgin ? Look you are either a troll or on drugs now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:45 PM
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Was just trying to shut this guy up lol. But to be fair this was a very high end girl in Shanghai years ago, not a typical sex worker at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:35 PM
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ohhh ok so its only two, thats different then. The reason I say this is there's an NYC influencer who says she has never had a boyfriend but only like a "few dozen situationships". I thought u were the guy version of this lolz.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:28 AM
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What does the word situationship mean to you, How its used by women instagram influencers is casual sex with dates without commitment. West Elm Caleb is an example of situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:23 AM
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/u/HimNeutron , Op, i think you are using the term situationship incorrectly. Situationship refers to casual sex with dates without commitment. This is how women use the term on instagram anyways. But I think you are using to refer to women you dated but didn't sleep with ? It might be good to clarify what situationship means for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:22 AM
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You missed the part about the situationships. I swear young people these days are so secretive with their word use ....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:19 AM
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Why would someone need to support their parents financially ? parents have more savings and investments accrued overtime anyways. Are you trolling ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:20 AM
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Also my wife would have to be a virgin, cause i like eating boxes to pleasure the woman i love and eating boxes from women have been with other men can lead to diseases, ohhhh boy. I have ate pussy from a prostitute before. Still alive, no diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:59 AM
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They are like the monarchs of old, who will only allow privileges, such as eating red meat to people of their social circle. Are you high ? Do you not see big macs and whoppers as accessible food?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:58 AM
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With all time high divorce rates and people with 3 jobs, still being unable to stay afloat Very few people have 3 jobs lol. Also just study harder in school, don't do drugs and alcohol. I grew up poor and got into a top school, make big bucks now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:57 AM
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I mean I make over $300k a year as a software engineer, I could support a whole family on my salary. but if I marry a woman with a similar job ? Our kids would lead an elite life of tons of benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:56 AM
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It’s a lot of gross sex with a lot of gross married dudes How do you know? That is not her car, he’s just letting her borrow it. Nope it is hers. She owns it. Along with the house he bought her. And he’ll trade in both her and the car when he’s tired of them, and she won’t get shit in the divorce because there’s a prenup. How do you know this ? Rich guys don’t get rich from being generous or stupid. They get rich using people and resources for their own gain Are you a communist? Rich people crea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:33 PM
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Did you mean a prostitute? Nope. Even more so in countries where prostitution is legal, sugar baby is more of a term for rich man young woman. See the linked video.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:01 PM
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. Nurses, Nursing is a very very good career. Many advancement options and big salaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:00 PM
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Since I don't intend to take money solely for being married, That distinction doesn't matter too much because legally assets made in a marriage are shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:58 PM
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How is that a good example? Already explained this, massive attractiveness and popularity with no call out for their sexual violence. How about the people involved in the sports hold athletes accountable? This is irrelevant because we are talking about feminists. And here's a source on feminists So you found a source with 2 feminists as authors, I will give you credit for this. However, I have never seen any wide spread boycott of sports or marches against athletes committing domestic violence. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:51 PM
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Thats what the woman in the linked video does, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:16 PM
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They are getting paid for a relationship and being in a relationship. By your logic you would also say marriage is a form of prolonged prostitution ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:01 PM
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Men cannot be sugar babies. Women don't want to date men who make less than them or have less money. I am open to counter arguments with evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:55 PM
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Betty and Jose Grafstein Sorry a trans man / woman doesn't count https://www.tiktok.com/@bettyandjose/video/7235017268231490843
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:54 PM
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If you end up in marriage how is it sex work ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:47 PM
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They aren't though. There's literally these services everywhere with very hot women for way less then what this women and similar are getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:46 PM
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these men could leave you at the drop of a hat and if you have no education or skills, what will you do? Social media / influencing. Or digital marketing. Also you make and keep things like a house and sports car. plain and simple, beauty is a bad investment for women. IMO it's the best investment. Prettier women are offered better jobs and treated better. Women , even if they do not capitalize on looks directly, are always indirectly better if their looks are better. So many women do social med…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:24 PM
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While male sugar babies aren't nearly as common, they totally exist. Will need source or evidence for that claim. Anyways, sugaring is sex work. Getting married rich is not the same thing. That's only in the USA or where sex work is vastly illegal. Where's she's from in Malaysia / Singapore, sex work is every where so sugaring wouldn't be competing with it. Also that girl is very pretty. Women in general in South East Asia are prettier due to being much less fat than the USA. She's very pretty, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:21 PM
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Most sugar babies may be getting an allowance but are not the only woman and have to do a bunch of gross sexual things The difference in the example I linked is in Singapore and Malaysia (where she lives) prostitution is fully legal and regulated, so "sugar baby" is more like a slogan of "rich man seeking younger hot woman" for a relationship. In the USA, I guess sugar baby takes more of a place of an escort since prostitution is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:12 PM
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I mean even being fat she has no curves and carries a lot of fat on her stomach. She is on the low end of women her size in terms of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:08 PM
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Have you thought about finding ways to increase income ? Maybe digital marketing or social media ? I recall from a previous post your UK based ? I have a friend that started a UK travel account on tiktok about royal history and gets paid from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:05 PM
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if your work requires you to travel, your spouse is presumably aware of this and it would be weird if now, all of a sudden, it's an issue just because you're married. Without revealing too much, the issue with my friend is where she transitioned from being a clinic doctor to doing her own telemedicine business, so her schedule went from always at clinic and at home to running her own business online and attending tons of tiktok creator or instagram creator events, or skin care meetups in differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:57 PM
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But when I ask them (cis hetero women) what do they want and expect from a partner, like what kind of traits are you attractive to. The answers I would get are related to very conservatives masculine traits, the same traits they write papers about how destructive it is That's because feminism in America ( as opposed to perhaps feminism in Europe ), is not based on progressivism. It's based on bringing down average or non attractive men to get women more access to attractive men. Here's a good ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:26 PM
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You need to be in a major city. In SF there's tons of single people around that age doing shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:15 PM
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I went back to Europe to visit family and I'll be away from my husband for 2 months. Ideally, he'd be able to join me but that might not always be an option, and we've talked about whether this amount of time is okay for both of us. This is different though because you are open to him joining and talking with him about it first. This is the healthy way to do it. not just say something is for work and thats that. Why shouldn't they? If you are married you shouldn't need to be going out late at ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:08 PM
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My husband does one work trip a month. Just to be clear does this mean his job or business sends him / requires him to do this ? Or he chooses to go to some extra conference / meeting ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:58 AM
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I’m guessing it would be too much FOR YOU. That’s fair, def make sure you don’t marry someone who travels 30 times a year. If these two people are okay with it, why do you care? More importantly, why should THEY care how it makes you feel? Are you triggered by what I said ? Is there a reason you feel the need to use capital letters? Does that make you feel a little macho eh ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:08 AM
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or is she at the club with her single friends? Is she traveling for work because she can earn a lot more money that way, or are there other work options available closer to home? Her family lives in her same city in the USA, nor is she visiting her home country. She's socializing with other doctors after hours. I can't say more than that because she has 150k+ social media follows, don't want to doxx her or me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:07 AM
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Separate residences, spend the night together a few times a week, chat on the phone most days. That’s my ideal. So if I find someone who wants that, too, why wouldn’t we get married? There's no reason to commit to anyone if you aren't living with them. What difference does it make if you date other people if you aren't living together ? Like nothing is shared. I feel you are convincing yourself of something that doesn't exist in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:06 AM
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why shouldn’t someone have fun on a trip? Why wouldn’t someone WANT their spouse to have fun and get everything they can out of a cool location? I’m so confused. To clarify, I am talking about someone going out of the country 10 times a year for "work". I am not talking about a once yearly thing. Aside from that, relationships aren't about WANTs . They are about mutual desires. It's not about what one party wants .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:04 AM
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Fair enough, I was focusing more on oncology in my post. But doctors won't earn more from off label uses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:57 AM
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Trump isn't a beta lol. He's an older , aged alpha. He's an idiot, but if he wasn't rich or from old money he would probably be a biker dude or a gangster.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:44 AM
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If it’s just because you want to go to Jamaica that year Woman solo trip to jamaica is only for "booty" massages from the locals lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:36 AM
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Do you understand that physicians cannot prescribe medication for illnesses the FDA doesn't indicate it for ? Like a doctor cannot claim a Benadryl will treat erectile dysfunction and prescribe it because a journal paper showed it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:29 AM
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Its only a problem if the other person thinks its a problem This is the begging the question fallacy . Relationships are two way streets. Any problem arises when one person has an issue, so you haven't said anything really here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:24 AM
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Yup, I have been so ASCO before as cancer patient as a testimonial for a specific regimen I was treated with. ​ What I am saying is, a doctor cannot take something at a conference and come back and say "ok folks we are doing this now". Different regulatory bodies have to approve that treatment regimen. For the cancer i had during childhood, the new chemo regimen was investigated by physicians from 10 different countries and then approved by 2 groups that govern cancer treatment in children. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:21 AM
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I mean I would imagine quilting conventions are like domestic flights and pretty boring. The friend in question even goes internatnionally frequently, like to Singapore, Seoul, Dubai, etc. These are major fun trips, with tons of socializing outside of the conventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:19 AM
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Uhhhhh... I would think it is more important for doctors to attend those conferences more than people of other professions. Conferences don't teach anything that would be used in a clinic setting. Clinics and hospitals are governed by standards of care and whats fda approved. Like doctors can't read something off a research paper and do it in the clinic. Also this is doctor worship. Doctors don't keep your grocery store running or your bank running, or keep you safe from cyber attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:16 AM
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If they do not own their practice it doesn't though. Most doctors work in medical groups or hospitals where they just get paid from insurance or whatever insurance gives them. Also where does the boundary of family and money sit ? Doctors already earn a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:14 AM
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Some do many things seperately. Is there a point in being married if you do close to everything separately ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:01 AM
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So do you believe 30 times a year is too much or not ? What you stated is a red herring
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:00 AM
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Sure but if two people are married there has to be some meaning of that marriage. If a person travels as much on their own that they did before they got married that's a problem. otherwise marriage is just bill splitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:58 AM
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It’s still work, after all. If going out of town twice a month could help me to better support my family and give our kids a better life, I would probably do it. But what if it's just by choice or more or less elective ? Like in the case of a doctor for example, a doctor won't earn more money because they go to conferences, its for learning. But doctors already spend a lot of time at their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:58 AM
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You mean, like the vast majority of the planet? Uh, no ? Every place has different costs of living. Singapore , HK, NYC, London, all have high yet different costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:20 AM
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If you overlisten any conversation between two or more guys, In western societies men cannot discuss sex with other men without it being potentially interpreted as gay or "homo". This is even more the case if you are in a place with a huge LGBTQ sphere like San Francisco. In countries like China or Singapore, discussing sex between men is very common. As a foreigner , Chinese guys often recommend herbs to take to go "5 times in a night". Or in Vietnam, its common for men to eat snakes so they be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:38 PM
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They don’t enjoy getting up every day and going into the corporate grinder for 10 hours to make money. I disagree because you are forgetting working and making a salary is a defense against having to settle. It's a leverage. Take the woman in my article for example. very nice income off her own business. She wants a man that makes equal or more than her AND is attractive enough for her standards. Surfer chad down at Santa Monica beach is hot but he makes $15 an hour. Dead lift chad down at LA fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:31 PM
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then existence of Trump negates your point. I'm lost, Trump is a former president of the USA. What does he have to do with this ???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:24 PM
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This is the narcissism dating style. It might work in some situations, but it doesn't work in a lot of cases unless the woman has a lot of self esteem. And I don't see the advantages of it. West Elm Caleb made love bombing work great.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:42 PM
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There’s tons of people who have to work a ridiculous amount of hours just to afford their bills and have to take care of their house still. You can be interesting with emotional intelligence, or about your job. See what most guys don't get is women don't build interest the way men do. Men are very tactile and visceral, the thing needs to do cool things to be interesting. Women are more interested in the emotional aspects of things. Like I have taken the most mundane of things to myself and talke…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:37 PM
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This one is very interesting. For me, active dates such as walking around a shopping mall or going to an arcade has worked very well when i was working in China and Taiwan. Or when I visited Singapore. But I actually find in the USA they are bad because women tend to be less focused on a guy and building chemistry with him when they aren't looking at him for the first while. In the USA people are a little more outgoing in public, where as in Asia they are usually very quiet . So walking around i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:26 PM
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Sexy would be this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:19 PM
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Right, but what I'm saying is most people anywhere don't make 170k, so it's kinda moot. You'd have to be making that exceptional income to be able to even consider living there, Nope, wrong. She spends only $1,600 a month on rent. That's very low for socal standards. Using https://www.rentcafe.com/rent-affordability-calculator/ someone making $80k a year can afford up to $2000 per month rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:09 PM
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I would believe you but I know that the number one predictor of divorce is a man losing his job. Most women get married for security, financial and emotional. Once one of those two is gone then there is no real reason to stay in the marriage Right, but those could also be 50 / 50 relationships where when one side loses the ability to take care of the 50, that kind of breaks the agreement the relationship had to begin with. Women who specifically want 50 / 50 are almost never ok with being the fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:03 PM
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Most women don’t make $170k Within California, that's not uncommon at all. As I said, you have to take it differently for each cost of living area. In the midwest there's women who make $80k and live in a studio or with roommates maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:58 AM
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becoming less prevalent (even tho you haven’t actually given any real proof that it is less common actually), doesn’t mean that a concept never existed at all. Your post is basically the equivalent to saying “six packs aren’t real because the average person in modern times is a fat fuck 🥴” No, what I am saying is it does not exist in the manner in which it is laid out. As some here have noted, A walmart store supervisor might want kids in a low COL area and want a bigger house etc. Thats what I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:43 AM
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Women are definitely willing to date and marry someone just for money and safety, especially lower and middle class ones or the ones from 2nd and 3rd world. This is passport bro-ing, which is a different concept altogether. Typically men in 1st world countries will be taller / richer than men in 2nd and 3rd world countries altogether, and there's also cultural influences etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:39 AM
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Being a Passport bro isn't all roses either. For a young guy who's average or above average but high earning in the USA / highly educated, passport broing is a ticket to being a chad. In Taiwan and China, my tinder matches go through the roof. Unforgettable experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:38 AM
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There's also data to support this phenomena , https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/01/us/record-number-of-40-year-olds-never-married-trnd/index.html , record number of over 40 year olds are never married. I picked an example story because I find thats easier to discuss for subs like this, and the woman is living in areas known for casual sex and dating. One who earns $30k, who has or wants kids, who needs a home big enough to actually do that in, who owns more than three things, who doesn't live somewher…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:34 AM
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but it’s 100% cap this narrative that women are intentionally foregoing relationships for singlehood. Correct, but women aren't forgoing relationships, they are just holding and not compromising on standards. Let's take the woman from my article right, of course this lady is up for some casual fun with surfer chad from Santa Monica beach, but surfer chad earns like $18-20 an hr. So she won't want to support him financially in a relationship. But mr engineer from a tech company makes her salary o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:30 AM
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but women (and men) frequently settle for someone they are not as attracted to for practical reasons. But what does settled mean here ? Are you just saying relationships that have not as much focused on physical attraction ? That's somewhat different than settling. Most people don't earn that much, Sure but the woman is living in the equivalent of a roommates scenario in a larger house. So theres options to live the single life if needed. But yea, i could see women at lower income levels opting …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:20 AM
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what is average adam
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:23 AM
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The goals and desires of men and women are diametrically opposed. Men and women want different things and have different compromises .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:44 AM
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It’s easy to find a hot guy. Not easy to find a hot guy that you actually want to have sex with. Whats the diff of these two categories though ? Is it how interested they are in you ? If they are douchey or not? Or appearance based?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:36 PM
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actors are not all homosexual men. George Clooney, Leo, ryan Reynolds. Your statement is hard to take in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:34 PM
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thats a movie star
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:37 PM
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oh yes thats true. i have seen black ladies go well into late 30's as well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:25 PM
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I have found women are good in 20's and 30's if they are asian or take good care of themselves with fillers + exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:55 PM
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The majority of women are not fine until 40s lol Unless you are living / dating within high earning circles where botox/juvaderm / exercise classes are very common, or you date exclusively asian women, i don't see how this could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:55 PM
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dont you want the experience of nurturing a child ? that will grow up to love you and like you as their mom ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:53 PM
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How would it not ? Is virginity defined as free sex ? In many latin american countries fathers takes their sons to become a man at the brothel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:01 PM
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We’re not talking about marriage or a relationship, just a simple date. Something to keep in mind is prostitution of different kinds is abundant and legal in Japan. Much more so for native Japanese men. There's also the rent a girlfriend services. And none of those is socially shunned like it is in the USA. So the true degree of celibacy is probably less than we think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:36 AM
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By “bad boy” do you mean a funny and charismatic guy who looks tough from a low income background who has a few tattoos but is working hard, loves his family, and is a decent person? This.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:30 PM
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because he was a bad person, though. They were just tricked into thinking he was a good person. It's both. It's because the person known to be bad was good to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:29 PM
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The problem is this falls into the "black knight" fallacy. In contrast to a white knight (who defend women needlessly), a black knight who might be known as a "bad boy" behaves much nicer to a woman then she expects. This causes her to think and feel like he's giving her special consideration or that she's his cure or reason to change. This draws the woman in deeper, but the black knight later shows his true colors. The thing many people miss is relationships with bad boys / emotional abusers ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:28 PM
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Just take a week or two in Thailand and get some experience .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:20 AM
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Is this someone you were having an affair with ? Or an ex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:23 AM

No man who’s successful at casual sex knows what the RP is or if they do they do not talk about it in reference to their own sexual habits . Again, if u want to study trolling , u need to craft the narrative more .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:45 PM

No one actually talks like that . They say “I’m seeing a few women casually “ or “I’m having some flings”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:42 PM

This is obviously a troll post . It’s not even good effort .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:41 PM
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Which country do you believe is civilized to not have these issues ? I agree Asian countries and some European ones perhaps probably
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:03 PM
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It’s very beneficial if you are valued and supported for being that way . Femininity is also being nurturing and supportive . Also not all societies value being assertive or confrontational, not even in men . So your speaking from a very western perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:37 PM
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If you vilify femininity , that’s a prescriptive action too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:31 PM
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We are confusing gender roles and gender qualities . Being cute , nurturing , sensitive , and loving are parts of a feminine personality . Why do you think Asian culture and women are so different from western women ? Hint: they don’t view everything as individualist ! If women have issues with femininity maybe they have gender identity issues
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:21 PM
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If you don’t like being feminine that’s an issue you have with femininity . In other countries like south east Asia or Japan , femininity is a beautiful thing men cherish and love . Men have no attraction to masculine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:15 PM
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You are talking in absolute statements that are automatically false by omission . I have helped out at a girls coding club in my college where women called themselves boss babes. Also someone’s league isn’t determined by wanting or not wanting a boss babe . None of the tech billionaires are married to software engineer founders as well , if that points out anything to you. Elon Musk has no desire for any boss babes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:08 PM
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Russia is a gangster society , quite literally, can be taken over by mobsters at any moment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:03 PM
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Ah but see , you aren’t looking at the big picture . The problem with the west in modern times is it views femininity as weak , vulnerable , and exploitable. The women in this sub will confirm this for you. The west vilifies femininity and feminine traits . So what happens is , women seek to become men. They seek the same careers exactly , the same household duties , the same sex partners and sexual styles , etc . There is no difference between men and women. Then , everything men used to be lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:02 PM
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The boss babe isn’t mythological lol . Plenty of them in computer science and in business that I met in college in Silicon Valley
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:55 PM
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Hookup is also not used as much as a term now. Many people say situationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:50 AM
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That’s because it’s not called hook ups or casual sexual anymore . It’s now called “situationships” . Casual sex with a little dates for meetups involved .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:49 AM
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"All women make at least the same amount as men," is utter bullshit and thus invalidates the rest of your nonsense. Within the same profession nowadays that is true. But professions are still skewed toward different genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:28 AM
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This is coming from someone who wants to be a SAHM. But that is a major gamble on my part in 2023. Have you ever thought about dating a software engineer ? Many of us make mega bucks and work from home so we can still help out with cooking and stuff :D
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:27 AM
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How is a woman with a successful career self sacrificing ? Do you think you might not like femininity ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:28 AM
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It's literally designed by the Chinese to destabilize western society. I think people forget this too easily. Like, compare reels on instagram vs tiktok. It's vastly different. On instagram i get things very close to what I am pushing like on. On tiktok I get endless video why colonialism and the usa is bad or why white men are bad, even though i don't like those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:53 AM
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So you would agree that , if a man saying “I only want to date a woman with huge boobs” , is as objectifying as a woman saying “ I only want to date a man that’s 6 feet tall” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:00 AM
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A child doesn’t relate to their mother the same way they do to their father . I can cite u hundreds of psychology peer reviewed papers that explain that if you are open to learning
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:24 PM
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Biology isn’t sexism . If you seek to be in denial go ahead . No one stopping you. Plenty of psychology studies on child psychology and how they related differently to each parent. Not saying fathers can’t be there too . But u think a father is a complete replacement from a mother or vica versa ? Please
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:10 PM
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What if he wants mama instead ? You are just arguing self fulfilling prophecies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:42 PM
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But they are . Look at interviews of neurosurgeons on YouTube . Just because something is against the law doesn’t mean it’s necessarily enforced . Number one rule of law
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:21 PM
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Are you in the Nordic countries ? Or a liberal area ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:35 PM
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Are you confusing a medical / surgical specialty for a surgeon ? Ophthalmologists aren’t on a surgeons schedule or hours lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:20 PM
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Manipulation is a form of deception . Where is the deception in this case ? Are you confusing love for deception ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:55 PM
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Do you think a waitress can just walk out mid-shift because her little boy skinned his knee at daycare? Are you not aware of the difference in hours a surgeon works versus a waitress? come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:49 PM
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if hunting is not aggressive when done by a female then being a boss isn’t aggressive when done by a female either… so what exactly was your rebuttal here? Humans as a species do not need to hunt for food. We can farm and prepare food. Lions CANNOT farm or prepare food, they can only hunt. You are trying to compare two things which have no relationship with each other. Lions do not consider snabbing a gazette aggressive because it's like skinning a cow or chicken for humans. You are trying to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:48 PM
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But what does outearning mean ? What percentage ? Different tax brackets ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:05 PM
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Can you clarify what you mean by financially stable but don’t have a job ? Are you referring to generational wealth ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:31 PM
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That’s a self fulfilling prophecy that’s false . There’s people in the comments already saying men they dated had a hard time with their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:30 PM
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In a personal relationship ? That’s tacky and narcissistic . Would you date a men that talked to you about men’s rights a lot ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:30 PM
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Your talking in extremes here. Many medical professions have plenty of time for family . But some surgical professions work 80-100 hours a week at times . Time is a zero sum game . Some professions just don’t allow it . Reality is reality .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:29 PM
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Women who feel the need to disagree or find ways to disagree have a dysfunctional personality trait . Women who use logic to disagree are still feminine though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:27 PM
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Your example with lions is wrong because male lions protect the herd and fight with other males to ensure the females safety. Lions are hunters and not farmers, so a female lion hunting food is equivalent to a woman cooking dinner .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:26 PM
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If men don’t embody supposedly “feminine” qualities like kindness, nurturing, compassion, sensitivity and devotion to family, then what’s the point in marrying him? Attraction doesn't work like that. Men and women are two different genders. So are non-binary or trans. Not all things are valued the same. Look, if you don't like being feminine, thats fine. That's your choice. But you have a serious misunderstanding of what a persons abilities are and their personality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:20 PM
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You make the time. You can have demanding careers and still be present as a parent. You'll note that obody says axiomatically that a male surgeon makes a bad father. So I disagree with you there. Male surgeons make good fathers because they provide a good role model of masculinity and being a high earning man. Children want their mother for comfort and security. When little boy falls and has a booboo, he wants his momma. If momma is in surgery, he won't be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:08 PM
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career woman who overcompensates by keeping all the “trad fem” qualities men expect from a relationship. Qualities are a part of a personality. What do you mean by "over compensate" ? Femininity is inherent to whats attractive in women. You can be feminine yet still have a good career.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:05 PM
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Ohh i see where you are coming from. Yea that's male insecurity for sure. But more or less, a software engineer and doctor are within the same socioeconomic class. Overtime if he had ambition and wasn't a dud he could have raised his earnings higher through advancement etc. Similarly costs of malpractice insurance / student loans repaying affects physicians salaries too. Maybe what I am getting at personally is women in a higher socioeconomic class then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:02 PM
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Being overly concerned with being right usually comes with traits like aggressiveness, dominance, etc. which aren't in the realm of feminine traits. Now, some men absolutely love aggressive women. But most naturally don't as it isn't feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:56 PM
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Agree generally but so many of them say dumb shit like “men don’t care about women having a career” or “we can’t fuck your degree.” Doesn't this come up more in discussions of whether or not men's degrees or education is attractive ? I have heard this, but this argument I make is more about LTRs. Some of them also do this weird shaming type tactic arguing that a woman with a career is a bad mother Good mothers need time available to make for parenting. So some careers like surgery or certain med…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:54 PM
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Feeling the need to disagree is a dysfunctional trait. The goal should be to agree when possible . Maybe that makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:46 PM
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Did you not read my post ?Do you not consider Dr G an intelligent and successful women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:44 PM
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When you say earning potential , are you dating men who work in lower earning jobs ? Or the same type of job or industry ? Regarding your link , it’s expected men earning significantly less than their wives will experience stress because women do not like to feel like they take care of men. As the saying goes , women will not be another man’s mother besides their son.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:43 PM
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The type of person who writes off "career women" just always also seem to have an issue with women ever being right about anything. At the same time people who focus heavily on being "right" as women tend to not accept when they are wrong, or look for reasons to be "right" when it's not that relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:36 PM
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But you’d never say a man who is disagreeing with everything a woman says has a “dysfunctional personality” It could definitely be, but it depends on the context. One realm is someone being a know it all and attempting to know more than they actually know. For example, I date mostly Chinese women. When I speak in mandarin, sometimes I botch the tones, and they correct me, which is totally fine. But sometimes if they get something wrong about US history or government, I jokingly correct them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:33 PM
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But that's more of a work life balance and compatibility issue. Like if you mean beyond 9-5 hours, people need to be agreed on how much availability they want from one another. That has less to do with the person and more to do with lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:29 PM
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But being in charge is the problem for insecure dudes. Would you equally consider a woman insecure if she didn't want to date a man that was in charge at work and made a lot more than her ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:28 PM
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Let's be honest — larping on the internet aside — only a tiny fraction of the men that say they "don't want a career woman" actually travel in the same circles as (or would be able to date) those types of career women. I mean there's also investment bankers, healthcare administrators, its more than just exec level. So it's pretty pointless for men to wax rhapsodic about how they "don't want a career woman". I mean, would you take a contestant from "My 600lbs Life" (or whatever the show's called)…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:27 PM
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I think men don’t want a “career woman” cuz they don’t want someone who might make more than them or at least makes enough that she could survive (or even thrive) without his financial contributions. But most financial structures / markets are built for dual income households. Homes, mortgages, the good stuff is really for the level of a dual income. Most couples also generally marry within the same education class or generally have more or less the same earning potential. Have you seen cases wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:24 PM
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or a job where she's in charge, Being in charge is a very different category than making good money or loving your job. You can make good money and love your job without being a manager .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:19 PM
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THE guy(the guy they actually really want) also known as HELL YEAH camp. You have to be THE guy if you want to have good chances the relationship will work out longterm, that's the burning desire thing. I think the key thing what people miss is, the burning desire doesn't necessarily last forever, but it cements a solid emotional level bond that does last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:16 PM
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They mean that they can't really handle being questioned or disagreed with and don't want to date the type of woman who isn't agreeable. This is different from. they don't want someone they think will be opinionated or challenge them. The former is someone who has a dysfunctional personality, the ladder is a normal part of a relationship. Constantly questioning or disagreeing with people isn't a desirable personality trait, or indicates incompatibility. But having ones own opinions is normal,
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:14 PM
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it’s any woman with any job that isn’t ready to completely disregard it to work around her bf or husband This is a caricature. The vast majority of households in America now do not have a SAHM. But you should elaborate on what "disregard" means here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:11 PM
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How is providing for someone and giving them things they cannot otherwise attain a bad intention ? Are people who give food to homeless not having good intentions ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:25 PM
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What “true” intentions are there ? Do tell. That aren’t your assumptions of course .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:30 PM
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As long as we are talking about consensual sexual activity , women objectify men just as much as men objectify women. Treating a man as a height , a pair of muscles, or a penis is dehumanizing too. Women do all the things you mentioned . They make fun of men who are fat , short , you name it . You just can’t see any of it because of ignorance .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:38 AM
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You can easily spin it around and say he's the one being manipulated since she could be using sex as a bargaining chip to buy her things. Transactions aren't manipulations, either way. That's some radical left wing take to assume otherwise. Manipulations have to deceive in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:49 AM
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Starts dating a 40yo old guy that can give her everything her parents have denied her. Someone that much older most likely has assets a car a house. Way to easy to manipulate someone that young. You don’t see where that can be troubling? How is giving a woman something her parents couldn't get her manipulation ? Manipulation is a form of deception, not generosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:48 AM
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Good points, but most IG models that you and me are talking about are not fitness models, they are more what are called "glamour" models that are on the surgically enhanced curvy side. I actually think most of the effort is more on networking and finding opportunities to gain fame. Here's an IG baddie that got a record label of her own to release https://www.instagram.com/p/CskAsOzP8cu/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:01 AM
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This makes no sense . A man’s eyes works . Does he like what he sees ? Or not ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:21 AM
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Only fans isn’t sex work . You misunderstand the concept of it . It’s being paid a monthly fee to exist and post photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:30 AM
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The female equivalent of the player is actually the Instagram Dubai / Miami / LA hottie with a bbl that can get tons of free gifts from not only men but also brands that want her to advertise . See the issue is a player in the abstract is a master of seduction and sexuality . In terms of women , the true masters are the IG baddies . They have unlocked a way to get tons of money and luxury just for existing . Not even billionaires can match it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:29 AM
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Do you think that men are overstating the importance of this. Yes and no. The importance of it is very much so important yes. But it doesn't necessarily come when you first meet someone. When I was studying abroad in Taiwan for a semester back in college, I met this girl at one of the night markets, and then we talked for a while on text and then met up again at a cafe. It went well, but no action yet. Then when I met her again for dinner, and at the end I kissed her, it lit up from there. All n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:15 AM
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I don't care how much lust I have for someone, I'm not sleeping with him on the first date. I'm not letting a stranger into my body. The problem here is this is talking in the abstract. Taking your words at face value, you are absolutely correct. Any woman what not let someone she feels is a stranger into her body. However, one doesn't feel someone is a stranger in moments of intense burning desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:08 AM
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Whether or not someone is stopped from doing something is not related to the argument about demonization . Red herring . Your straw manning here . Men get called fat phobic for wanting a thin woman , women get a high five for only wanting a 6 foot tall guy or 8 inch dick. Treating a man as a height or just his penis is no different than treating women like a pair of tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:06 AM
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There is zero demonization of women’s sexuality since the 1950’s . Total red herring .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:58 PM
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What does equal mean though outside the context of civil rights and the law ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:53 PM
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Fertility rate isn’t a function of cultural norms or values . East and southeast asian countries generally have shorter , poorer men, paired with having no drugs or gangs in popular culture . So the standard of masculinity is far less than it is in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:52 PM
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Yea . Roe vs wade being overturned 50 years later should be clear proof society has no linear path.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:36 PM
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For the first example you gave , do you believe women should be equally demonized when they do that to men ? Or no one should be judged . An example for women would be if say there’s Dave who has a massive penis , and women only want Dave for sex . They only care about his penis , and just put up with whatever comes out out of his mouth to get more time with Dave’s penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:30 PM
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I think that you’re missing the greater context, but you’re free to insist that you aren’t. Your dodging the question. Do you believe all sex is rape ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:09 PM
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I love how you cited yourself with something that goes against your point. Sexual objectification for women is essentially the same thing as sexual harassment training outside of a job/ just normal life. It’s unfortunate it needs to be brought up but it’s a sad reality. Did you read some other article and not mine ? https://nus.edu.sg/alumnet/images/librariesprovider2/issue-128/update/sexual-objectification-can-most-often-be-found.png?sfvrsn=a3710f4a_2 Here's the direct image you need to look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:58 PM
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The reality is that loads and loads of women have stories of unconsensual encounters or close encounters with men. It’s a ridiculous number of anecdotes that colors everything else that you’re trying to talk about. My argument has nothing to do with non-consensual sex . The attempt to bring this up here is some weak straw man argument or attempt to appeal to emotion. You personally may not have been involved with any unconsensual activity. But the reality is that we are primates and there are de…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:54 PM
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How does consensual sexuality have demonic consequences ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:18 PM
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You are not looking at things in the big picture here . You are using outliers like incel forums or Andrew tate support communities and comparing that to the overarching reach feminism has on academic thought . These two things aren’t equivalent . https://nus.edu.sg/alumnet/thealumnus/issue-128/perspectives/panorama/where-do-we-draw-the-line Sexual objectification for women is a global concept . There is almost no academic presence or major media presence of women being called out for sexually o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:46 PM
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Literally hundreds of academic sources state sexual objectification is desiring physical traits in a woman above all else . Here’s another example https://nus.edu.sg/alumnet/thealumnus/issue-128/perspectives/panorama/where-do-we-draw-the-line Look , you continuously refute things that are proven by hundreds of sources without providing any arguments of your own. You are either a troll, or arguing in bad faith . I will not respond further unless you present a source or argument with a source . Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:43 PM
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Nope . I linked you a journal article detailing it . You are just grasping at straws now with no actual arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:34 PM
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There’s entire academic studies dedicated to female objectification and dehumanization . Here’s an example peer reviewed paper https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6707629/ Do you actually believe no one makes the argument of female objectification ? Hard to believe you are taking that stance in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:06 PM
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Nope , many people in this sub claim wanting these things is dehumanizing to women because it treats them as “objects and not people”. Why are you bringing up sexual harassment in a thread about sexuality ? Do you believe male sexuality is equivalent to sexual harassment ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:58 PM
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This is a logical fallacy. A need doesn’t have to be fulfilled . No such law for example dictates a hungry person who can’t afford food must be given food by those who have it . Similar to men , men can need something and improve themselves to up their chances , but no one is forcing women to give that to them . Just like everyone needs a home of some kind but homeless people exist . Your argument is the black white fallacy , that only two choices exist , which is false in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:17 PM
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Sure but South Asia isn’t really considered “Asian” in other parts of the world . Bollywood is it’s own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:31 PM
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Nope . Two things are at play . Asian countries have a lower standard of masculinity . Asian countries greatly ban drugs , gangs , guns , and many other parts of what’s main stream in other cultures . Most Asian countries also follow a Confucius influenced culture and have more gender roles at play. So it’s a lot easier to be seen as masculine . Globalization . Japan and Korea are key western allies , so anything in their culture is getting exported on the mega scale
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:01 AM
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Yes at the time that’s what the public thought . Racism was main stream back then . Those are facts . You sound like a vegan with objective morality arguments. Are you a vegan ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:42 AM
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You have to prove a 27 year old isn’t undergoing brain development in order for that to be true . You haven’t proven the contra-positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:40 AM
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The law is the representative interpretation of morality and justice yes. Maybe that doesn’t apply in nations without a functioning democratic process , but if you are in any developed nation , the law is the moral truth . Here’s a counter argument , my belief is someone isn’t an adult until they are 35 , because that’s the minimum age to run for President of the United States . So it’s fine for a 34 year old to date an 18 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:38 AM
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What is still developing in a 20 year old that isn’t in a 27 year old ? People in their 20’s are more or less the same if they are college educated at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:33 AM
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Heterosexuality itself is an unequal power . One has a penis , the other a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:30 AM
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Laws in the United States apply equally , so any woman has the benefit of alimony , child support , no fault divorce , etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:29 AM
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But now this is the deserted island scenario . Ultimately things we do require some form of positive feedback to keep doing them. At the same time , we need to believe in ourselves to further our efforts . But it’s a 50/50 relationship .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:22 AM
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Hmmmm, what do you define as not being your best though ? Is it a phase of life ? A state of looks ? As a man , I think focusing heavily on dating in early college is a waste of time because the odds are stacked against guys not in a fraternity or not an athlete . Your time being used to get a better job or start a business or something life changing would benefit you more . However after college , I think it’s important to keep dating because you have to gain dating experience . You need to not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:31 PM
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Have you never heard a woman say I don’t want to be a man’s mother, I want to be his wife ? What’s your source for single women being happier then men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:24 PM
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Your speaking in general terms here . Everyone has struggles in life and low points . Women generally seek in relationships a support system where a man can support her emotionally , and men provide that support , rather than the other way around .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:05 PM
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Men don’t really. Heterosexual relationships typically involve men influencing women rather than the other way around .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:43 PM
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No it’s not a transaction . It’s a subscription . It’s a relationship because of the life updates and such . But it’s fake because a man isn’t getting any sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:09 PM
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The problem is only fans pays women for existing which is a toxic form of relationship between men and women . It’s literally a paid subscription for pixels . Not quality porn actors and actresses . Although some OF are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:58 PM
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Yea but thats not what who i responded to said, Let’s stop telling young men that they have to compete with people to validate their worth. Perhaps i meant to say non-participation trophy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:04 PM
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Woman gain confidence primarily through relationships with men and their appearance . Women aren’t expected to have big sick energy or anything similar
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:36 PM
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But see the question is if the programmer feels he is important to society based on his skills and contributions. If so , he will do good in the club . It’s hard to have experience in just clubbing because it’s not really a skill in and of itself . It’s being a person in the club .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:13 PM
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Good points . Especially about how you can challenge yourself . View changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:07 AM
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Acceptance yes , but how can you be alright regardless of the outcome unless you compare yourself to others ? For example , if one knows no programming languages , never coded , how can they feel good about applying to a developer job posting ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:05 AM
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The only way you know when to humble yourself is when you are with someone of superior skill or people a far bit inferior that would be scared of you or intimidated .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:03 AM
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The superior and the inferior . See maybe you view things differently in life , but men compete in life for the best jobs , opportunities , and women. Like I can see at work whose less skilled than me , and whose still more skilled .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:01 AM
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Did you not take the time to read the article ? The researchers examined Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), conceptualized as excessive self-love and consisting of two subtypes, known as grandiose and vulnerable narcissism. A related affliction, psychopathy, is also characterized by a grandiose sense of self. They sought to refine the understanding of how these conditions relate. This is about a mental health disorder called NPD. That’s has nothing to do with narcissism as a trait. That’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:59 AM
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Being humble is the exact opposite of confidence . Humbleness means you are too shy and not competent in doing things . Again , you are presenting confidence as if it’s altruism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:56 AM
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But why don’t you feel afraid of failure ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:53 AM
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Since you mention asbestos , did your grand father have mesothelioma ? Typically that type of lung cancer has symptoms similar to a bronchial infection rather than the other types of lung cancer . A lot of GPs aren’t taught to look out for rarer things. You are right though this delves into the realm of over confidence. The right thing for a GP to do is order tests when something can’t be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:52 AM
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The recognition of superiority is an observation , not a belief .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:46 AM
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Narcissism is the obsession with self . They are highly confident people . You cannot prove “fake” confidence . It’s like claiming someone is faking happiness .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:40 AM
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Of course my fiancé is better than some people who didn’t get his job - I mean duh. People have different skills. But him being confident and knowing he’s good at his job doesn’t mean he looks down on the people he beat out for it. Recognition of ability isn't looking down on others. A doctor recognizes they are more knowledgable about medicine and the body than their patients, but uses that to help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:39 AM
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I am competent in several things that I choose not to brag about and this gives me happiness and a sense of value. How do you know you are competent at these things ? Let’s stop telling young men that they have to compete with people to validate their worth. Ah, the participation trophy stance ...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:37 AM
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Again your confusing validation and interaction . Without interaction with others you essentially only have autism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:07 AM
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What does knowing yourself mean ? How does knowing what you want relate to your perception of self ? For example , I know I want to go on dates with beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:43 AM
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But see , being able to help others comes from the state of being superior to them. It’s like at the grocery store when the machine asks you to donate a dollar to help cure hunger . The fact that someone can buy food and have enough to help others means they are superior to those who cannot do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:41 AM
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But in order to be good at your job , you don’t need to be the best , but you need to be better than some other people , or have some gauge to determine that. And see , the fact you learned something from your fiancé means he was more knowledgeable than you, thus why u feel his confidence. Same thing with me explaining programming concepts to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:38 AM
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But see not being nervous isn’t the same as being confident . Like , someone needs to feel relevant or important in their surroundings to feel elated or confident . As what other people pointed out , this is the competence part for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:34 AM
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Your confusing validation of others with interactions from others . You know and learn about yourself when you can measure and judge your own abilities . Validation is about recognition from others . We need to have certain traits or skills that are relevant to the real world . As I said before , we don’t live on deserted islands .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:29 AM
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Ok fair enough about the competence point . I guess what I am getting at though is competence needs to be in things that have some measurable outcome or gain. Like when I was in high school or middle school I was really good at some video games but because video games didn’t have much effects on the real world , I didn’t feel competent from them . With my programming job now , the problems I solve are for huge corporations that buy our software . So it just feels so much more relevant . I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:16 AM
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Ah but see here , plumbers are a great example of being better than other people . In order to fix some gas pipes or someone’s leaky sink , you have to believe you are better or more skilled than they are (the person who called you in)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:10 AM
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I think you are trying to tiptoe to present confidence as an altruistic quality , when it’s closer to narcissism . How does one know they are good at their job ? Versus not being good at their job ? The only way is a comparison to others. But see that’s the thing , it’s obvious when you need to be taught things , you aren’t as good as the person teaching you . But when you are doing the teaching , you are the better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:06 AM
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But the issue is , those apply just to the chemistry lab. How do you know you are strong in other situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:03 AM
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How do you know you are strong as opposed to weak ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:43 AM
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Women need looks and attention for confidence though . In most cases , this requires a level of effort like exercise , make up , fashion , etc to be of a decent amount . Also the level of guy she attracts is related to the confidence benefit .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:03 AM
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You’re right to pursue sex ends at the point at which it infringes on my right not to be bothered by your libido. Most countries don't have les majeste laws though. You don't have a right not to be bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:16 AM

While I have never been to Nordic countries , I have understood they don’t have the double standards of feminism , e.g where over there everyone always splits the bills , as opposed to the USA . Not saying Nordic countries solve all the problems
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:19 AM
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Women sense confidence much more than men do. Confidence makes women wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:43 PM
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This this this. In my experience it’s just being an interesting person to talk to or having strong opinions is also a good personality . But not being nice .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:43 PM
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I disagree in part because status and money only help you if there’s enough class inequality between your class and lower classes. Or rather , a recognized way to signal wealth. I’m 6 feet , good jawline , make 300k+ a year in the SF Bay Area. I have never got a date based on my wealth , only my looks or personality. Everyone in my area has enough to do more or less the same activities and shopping . There’s no rich people and poor people malls. Theresa not much difference in class because the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:29 PM
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She might not be able to find a job in my country, esp if she is poor. Filipinos are one of the highest earning groups in the USA, despite being a very poor country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:20 AM
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Your logic is contradicting itself . First you point out the reason people live with their parents is $$$ . But then you say such a relationship based on need of money and not choice is happy and healthy ? If a woman was trapped with a man due to money and couldn’t live or support herself , you would call this happy and healthy too ? The problem here is no one is entitled to any kind of relationship . But this goes for romantic or family or platonic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:48 PM
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Fair enough . Maybe I should have worded it as “friendships can’t replace romance “
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:00 AM

A situationship is the same as casual sex because it’s sex without any commitment or mutual goals . You could more accurately call it casual dating , but it’s casual .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:57 AM
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In the USA it matters nothing. Significant separation in life style is only present at very high income levels. Me and other engineers who make $300k+ in the bay area still shop at walmart lol. Now, outside of the USA in countries with more leveled life styles, it matters more. A big one is for example in Asian countries, there's different levels of malls. There's like the luxury mall with fancy brands, then the mid tier mall with ok brands, then the unbranded malls. Bangkok / Shanghai have good…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:50 AM
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Friends can and do live together and it's more common among those who know romance isn't happening (asexual or celibate people, lavender marriages) or those who see greater financial benefits (students, young people, urban residents). You can have very close relationships with friends Just like men aren't entitled to relationships with women, people are not entitled to friendship either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:41 AM
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The fact that I have both romantic and non-romantic relationship experience, and both have been equally important to me Equally important isn't the same as being equivalent with one another. If that's not what you are arguing that's fine, but a lot of people here are arguing friendships or family is functionally equivalent with romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:39 AM
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Everything too complex for you is a fallacy. Why don't you quit the Ad-hominems and educate yourself about logical fallacies ? You are cracking me up. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:34 AM
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you're kinda not entitled to your friends and family too, so telling them to substitute their wanting for love is meaningless. THIS THIS THIS. Deserved an award. So many people bringing up friends and family as if friends and family are fruits on a tree. What about the parent's quality time together ? What about a siblings time with their family ? If one isn't entitled to a romantic relationship, one is isn't entitled to friendship or any other form of relationship either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:33 AM
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but my parents will never. If that's your position great, but your parents can kick you out or get sick . A woman is more devoted to a man because their relationship is by choice. But we do not choose parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:22 AM
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Finding a date does cure the state of being lonely. Alone == without another.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:18 AM
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TikToks that go viral enough to be 'popular' with a large variety of people are often entertainers, content creators, making things for view and to provoke, they're not representative of the average woman. They are going viral with average people. You can't go viral with just other entertainers. Where the likes are coming from is what matters. The average woman (most women) aren't making any content on TikTok. Wrong. 150 million americans use tiktok, with 1 billion global monthly users https://b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:05 AM
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Being alone and feeling alone are two different things. Trying out for the mental gymnastics olympics ? Where are they holding it eh ? Ok you know what, I'm in a god mood, ill cut you some slack. You haven't proved loneliness is a form of emotional baggage, or anything negative toward someone else. This is the flaw in your argument. This is an assumption you are making, a slippery slope fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:48 AM
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While depression is indeed a mental health condition , loneliness is a state of being alone. Loneliness also isn’t synonymous with depression, so I feel you are mixing different topics here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:31 AM
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Someone who has kids has a family and this found a romantic relationship .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:30 AM
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You are speaking as if loneliness is a mental illness or a disorder , which it isn’t . The state of “alone” is a mathematical state. You cannot solve the state of being alone without other people . You are stating oxymorons now. It’s like saying one can be 2 without adding one to it or doing anything to it .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:29 AM
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All assumptions there . How is any of that related to what I said ? You could spin the same logic saying someone is needy for friends if they prefer friends over romance . You need to relate arguments based on what is being said . Not imaginary ideas you want to project
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:36 AM
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It is. There is no other experience equivalent to kissing someone deeply , coming inside their holes . It’s just no equivalent .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:01 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/03/in-the-u-s-and-abroad-more-young-adults-are-living-with-their-parents/#:~:text=One%2Din%2Dthree%20U.S.%20adults,a%20good%20thing%20for%20society. Only 29% of 18-35 adults live with their parents in the USA. The data supports this concept. And many of the older couples I know have one or more parents living with them. You need a romantic relationship to have a kid to begin with, Look, do you truly believe friends can actually replace romantic rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:25 AM
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Many parents enjoy their children living with them. Do you live in a non-western country ? No one lives with parents in the long term in the west, 24/7 cohabitation is not required to prevent loneliness. Having no one to do anything with in your home is a very lonely experience. If cohabitation wasn't required why do virtually all couples live together ? Like why is it even a thing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:16 AM
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You know who I haven’t stayed in contact with? Everyone I’ve had sex with. So you aren't in a relationship or seeking one now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:06 AM
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Do you have examples of intentional community that are accessible to cis / heterosexuals ? Or not based off gender or orientation ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:05 AM
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Why do you feel they are failing ? I am just challenging the idea that friends are a replacement for romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:03 AM
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I'm not saying these are replacements for romantic relationships; they don't serve all the same functions. But they can make a big difference in staving off loneliness, in my personal experience. Oh ok so your argument / belief is more reasonable then. I am also not saying romantic relationships are the only tool against loneliness either, I am just saying other things do not really replace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:22 AM
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Sure, but you are talking about LGBTQ. If someone isn't LGBTQ, that won't work for them. can only be alleviated by one person, and that one person forever. Not the same person, but the type of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:54 AM
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So the one exception to my view would be fraternal societies of religion . I think living in a monastery with no women might work since there’s long term commitment and you are guaranteed to always be living with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:27 AM
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A lot yes. No connection is deeper than that with a woman. I don’t have much issue getting women either , but I’m more fond of romance than friends .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:24 AM
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The vast vast vast majority of roommates are not friends with each other lol. If you have data to prove your point though I’m glad to consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:24 AM
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As I commented elsewhere , the possibility of being lonely in a relationship doesn’t negate the possibility of being not lonely . But you can’t be not lonely outside of a relationship in the long term . Your logic would be like saying it’s better to not take a test in school because you can do bad on a test even if you prepare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:23 AM
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The key word here is long term. You don’t live with your friends . Your friends can move away , get a new job , focus on their own family . You are using a very temporary interaction (hiking) to try and satisfy the need for connection for a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:21 AM
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The possibility of a bad relationship doesn’t negate the possibly of good relationships . That’s like saying it’s better to not take a test then try to do well on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:19 AM
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Can you elaborate ? Have you experienced being close as family to your neighbors in a western society ? The reason I denote western is Asian societies are far more tight knit overall
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:18 AM
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Basically no one lives with their parents in western societies . And no one does so for the long term . Key word , long term. Most aging and frail people go to nursing homes . If they don’t , the period of living with their children is a very small period of time . Not long term . Roommates ? Puhlease roommates aren’t even relationships . Super common for roomies to move our due to issues . You are only proving my point right
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:08 AM
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How ? A live in relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:54 PM
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But you aren’t working for the people buying the content . E.g , producing one picture can be sold 1000 times or more . Or producing 10 pictures might only make one sale
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:38 PM
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Nordic countries would likely be a different dating environment since I believe they are like 90% white people and extremely tall. This means you have tall hood looking men in every corner . In the USA , you have a big stratosphere of different races , heights , and backgrounds . Much more wealth inequality. And also a more violent culture with guns. So TRP makes more sense in a country like the USA and less so the Nordic ones probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:25 PM
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The real world is most of the time a true Scotsman fallacy. The constant denialism of TikTok here in this sub is also odd, TikTok is the most popular social media app among young people . How is that not the real world ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:32 PM
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May I ask why ? Or like what are the factors that contribute to it ? I would think Italy and its more traditional culture is better for men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:29 PM
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They are sex workers. They aren't. They do not "work". They create content and earn money off subscriptions, and selling content. Porn actors/actresses "work" for a film company. Prostitutes "work" by selling their services. I am saying this is the economical and legal differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:15 PM
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I honestly believe that this is why many celebrities and athletes have no problem paying for sex. It's not just celebrities. In many latin american countries, it's a tradition for a boy when he turns 18 to go with his dad to the brothel to "become a man". It's almost seen as a right of passage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:09 PM

Someone isn’t cheating when they aren’t in a committed relationship yet . So you wouldn’t be able to compare any of what’s being discussed here to that. But if you want to go that route , women end most marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:44 PM

Women can also keep a back pocket fwb for the urges though until they decide another guy is worth committing to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:22 PM

“Ex boy friend turned fwb” , but was she also sleeping with you during this time though ? Like was the relationship actually good ? Seems like it wouldn’t be that satisfying
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:21 PM

No no , he would tell his buddies that it’s a casual girl . Like he wouldn’t just say he’s single
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:03 PM

It depends to who. He is going to say he is single to other women , but perhaps not to his bench press buddies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:54 PM

Excellent response , and this makes a lot of sense . Changed my view
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:52 PM

Men are hesitant to admit they aren’t in a relationship or having sex since they are virgin shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:44 PM

Well maybe not that extreme , but a woman who had a short fling with Joe from the gym isn’t going to use that to say she’s not single
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:30 PM

Ok what does it mean ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:15 PM

Men more often mean single to be not sexually active
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:33 PM
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But if someone asks you , "are you in a relationship?" , what would you say, if you were seeing someone casually ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:27 PM

This is more about how men and women talk to each other. Would you openly admit to a male friend you are hooking up / dating phase if you didn't have a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:18 PM

You missed the part about sex vs no sex. Women don't look at the sex part, they look at the status they have with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:17 PM

ima be in the minority according to this post even having sex I still am single casual hookups still mean I’m single So if someone asked you in real life, are you single, you would say yes ? If you had a regular hookup /fwb , would you also still say you are single?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:16 PM

What study are you citing? Its my view, not a scientific presentation. If you're going by pure anecdotes, then I could just as easily say you're flat-out wrong because every woman I know would define being single as being sexually inactive/not seeing anyone. You are a woman though. I am more referring to when men and women talk to each other. Not between women talk. A woman would rarely admit openly she is seeing someone casually to another male friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:15 PM

The implication would be if guys were in a relationship without sex they’d say they were single? Not a committed relationship but if they were going on dates where they didn't have sex yet or had screwed up first dates, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:13 PM
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If you ask a man who's hooking up if he's single, he will say "I am seeing this one girl now but it's not a serious thing"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:11 PM
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Most men do not define single as currently hooking up or a situationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:02 PM
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Whether or not is it true or not is irrelevant . She needs to feel that is true . That’s the fantasy many women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:57 PM
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The solution to women’s emotional distress is feeling sexually desired. She had a dream you were cheating ? Make her feel you can’t resist her and tell her no other woman turns you on as much as she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:34 PM
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I’m a big fan of the unexpected naked woman scenario ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:45 AM
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The first major antidepressant drugs were approved in the early 60’s. Treating depression isn’t a novel concept .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:33 AM

oh ok got it, makes perfect sense then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:01 PM
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Hmmmm for the part about superior or importance , would this be in ways you don’t already think about him like having a huge ego ? The reason I ask is when in relationships I have generally gotten compliments on things like being good at a sport say tennis and try to return the compliment , but she ends up saying that’s not true etc .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:28 PM
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OP, your post is somewhat flawed because you haven’t specified if you are referring to any form of dating or casual dating / situationships . Going on dates and getting a girlfriend is very different from going on dates and quickly getting sex with possibly different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:15 PM
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Your answer is my favorite so far :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:52 PM
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they can clean up after themselves and cook. but is this speaking in terms of always cooking for your man ? Like what about sometimes making him a dish he really likes, and he does the dishes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:26 PM
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But someone can be sexually submissive without wanting to be tied up or restrained , and similarly someone can be dominant without whips
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:46 PM
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Oh ok, maybe then we just miscommunicated. Yea being a maid isn’t good , but I thought u were opposed to ever helping him .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:12 PM
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What is domestic labor defined as here ? Are you referring to “extra things” that are purchased with money ? Why do you classify something for someone you are married to as domestic labor ? That seems like a very negative term.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:06 PM
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Do you not define going out of your way for someone as love ? Like to me if you never surprise someone else with something , even though they can do it themselves , that just sounds sort of self centered. Like how can you love someone if your not willing to do anything extra for them ? It sounds more like friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:42 PM
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What does chores mean here ? Like what do you do about common areas like the kitchen if you live together ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:25 PM
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For the cook and clean and take care of themselves part , do u mean that if needed they can do these things themselves ? Or that the continuous state of things in the relationship should never be doing these things for the man? Like how do you handle meals at home ? Do you each make yourself different dishes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:17 PM
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But that’s not how equality is defined in most use cases . The concept of equality is that every discipline should be the same between women and men. Therefore men being more skilled in home repairs would be deemed an inequality . This is how they claim having majority male workforce’s in engineering roles is sexist . If your not a liberal though , I understand why u feel it’s equality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:14 PM
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Was the move to get your attention or to express explicit romantic interest ,?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:15 PM

In person anything is primarily limited to areas where Chinese immigrants hang out , since I am Jewish and speak mandarin , and play table tennis, that’s the only place I am really well received. This has gotten me girlfriends / dates before , but of course it’s a very specific subset . In general SF is a very skewed / polarized city . Extreme liberal attitude on crime , extreme hipsters, very negative attitude toward tech people from non tech people , etc . I guess New York City is more of a tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:10 PM
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Any specifics on what companionship means to you ? Just asking since I usually here this term in pet commercials lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:30 PM
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Interesting . Then laziness is a big negative influencer in an LTR. So a man who loves climbing and hiking and really pushes himself to excel in it would be a perfect fit then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:29 PM
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Ramsay is a very good example of masculinity because he has the audacious and ferocious nature of someone like trump but without the psychosis . Today a lot of men are confused because there’s very little gender essentialism in society
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:25 PM
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He approaches every woman in sight How does a woman determine this ?? Do women have security cameras tracking every man ? onviously has spent more time infront of a screen instead of people. How does a woman determine this without assumptions ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:21 PM
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women can sense desprartion from a mile away. Ok, how does a woman determine if a man is desperate ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:18 PM
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So if improvement is a part of life , then what’s wrong with improving the strategy one applies to dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:07 PM
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Men can improve themselves This contradicts your view that dating is a "normal" experience. Normal things don't require improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:04 PM
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Through Pain, More Gain? - A Survey into the Psychosocial Benefits of Sadomasochism (uio.no) Thats about BDSM, in norway. Nothing to do with being sexually dominant or submissive. Also that survey is sampling about BDSM. You would need a survey for the general population about general sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:40 PM
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Zoomer women for sure do make it explicitly obvious when they want a guy. But what's explicitly obvious to an average person might NOT be explicitly obvious to someone with autism. In my early college days, I was still recovering from chemo brain from cancer treatment. So there were times a girl on the bus would suddenly start asking me about some assignment I was doing on my laptop, but I just didn't put two and two together that she is trying to make herself visible to me. I'm not autistic , b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:17 PM
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Something like 30% of women are sexually dominant Source please.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:07 PM
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But what do you mean by pre-dating ? Do you mean before being a couple ? To me , when you are only at the phase of a first or second date , it doesn’t make sense not to set up dates with other girls because people in general can be very flaky . Or like , first date is good , but second date is just bad . I think once there’s PIV sex involved though , i stop seeing other women since I don’t like condoms and want to reduce std risk lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:59 AM
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They don’t though . Female sexuality doesn’t work like that. You need to show them your confident enough to take them out by risking rejection. I’m a 6 foot guy who’s done some modeling as a teen , never been asked out but been on plenty of dates when I asked .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:52 AM
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We are talking about clinical autism here , not just being socially inept. Also women don’t ask men out . Men need to make the first move
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:42 AM
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Their brains can’t hold that thought somehow. They will go into this weird infant like state and make up the most insane fantasy alternate realities to prevent themselves from facing their own actions. I think in terms of evolutionary biology or physiology, women generally never do things that put them in danger, or instinctively avoid danger, much more so than men ever do. So admitting to any sort of crime would be putting the danger into herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:06 AM
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Did you share bikini pics on your IG? Sharing bikini pics is different than having an IG altogether. e.g , the women I have dated before had an IG mostly for food pictures or pictures of plushies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:55 PM
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I’m willing to bet every girl has men in her followers that want to sleep with her. Basically, I want all options to other men to be cut off You have insecurity problems. A woman who's happy in a relationship doesn't seek other men. You can't fully stop other men from interacting with your women. You should feel confident you are better than any other guy she meets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:54 PM
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Flirting with other guys At what point would you consider this a flag though ? Since in the beginning women would naturally flirt with other men until you move toward being a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:52 PM
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White/Non-Black women who only date black men *this is race specific. I’m black, Is this only something you avoid for long term relationships ? I would assume the BBC stereotype is generally helpful to black men ...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:51 PM
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why is cartier or LV tasteless ? Spending 30k on a bag is crazy capitalism simping, we don't support mass consumerism in this house. Hermes is a different league entirely than LV or Cartier. Cartier is like 1.5k or 2k for a gold necklace, LV is like 1.5k-2k for a bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:49 PM
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the quality or state of being equal: as ; a · sameness or equivalence in number, quantity, or measure ; b · likeness or sameness in quality, power, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/equality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:46 PM
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I think the person you are responding to thinks its still purge week, hopefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:43 PM
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Why does getting the vaccine have to be a unilateral decision? Ever heard of bodily autonomy? Smelling a trumpster a mile away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:40 PM
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he doesn't think our gender should dictate how we should live and he sees his partner as an equal, not someone subordinate to him Equality amongst individuals is a myth. This is something Confucius got right. No two people are equal. A relationship can be equal by gender, but always different by skills and knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:39 PM
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Are you implying a persons job has nothing to do with their personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:25 PM
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The women he dated thought or assumed he was exclusive to them though .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:27 PM
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In terms of type of work, "creative professionals" as you describe them can't even afford to live in SF. In general though the major companies in SF or even the bay area aren't in the design / media industry. You don't have big publishing houses, you don't have broadway, you don't have any big film companies, etc. Tech dominates, and the role of creative professionals in tech companies is very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:35 PM
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I would never date another artist ever again. Would you date a software engineer who painted as a hobby and sold his work occasionally ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:32 PM
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How can verbal consent be exploited?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:20 PM
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The problem is 4th wave feminism or modern "consent" campaigns explain consent in an unrealistic way. The actual form of verbal consent is dirty talk
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:10 PM
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Thats possible, but from what I understand it's not drastic enough to explain like a few fold increase in match rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:00 PM
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Lookup west elm Caleb and you will see what I am getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:42 PM
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Letting women be whatever profession they want. Grace Hopper / Marie curie, and many women have contributed greatly to science .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:53 AM
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YES. It’s a rebranding . The word hoe and hookup tend to have a negative connotation. So women’s rebranded it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:51 AM
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I think it’s more about options though. West elm Caleb had so many options , it didn’t matter so much how hot individual ones were
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:49 AM
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Being in multiple situationships as a woman doesn’t provide the illusion of the man picking you though. I think we are now mixing casual sex and situationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:48 AM
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So am I in a few situationships? It depends. For how a situationship is defined in these articles, you need to keep seeing the same person and be sleeping with them without any discussion of exclusivity. In that case I would say they are necessary for modern dating unless you can create extreme attraction early. I think a situationship is closer to a friends with benefits than an early stage relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:53 AM
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Do you think having sex with men before you are considered a couple is a strategy for a long term relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:14 AM
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Okay , but at what point do you as a woman (assuming by your comment) think about exclusivity with a guy ? Like would you assume he is dating other people until you are officially a couple ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:17 AM
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I'm guessing that here are more attractive men in situationships with multiple women than there are women in situationships with multiple men. Yup. West Elm Caleb is a testament to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:58 AM
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But do you think using the term as an arrangement is misleading or delusional ? Like people say “my situationship” it sounds odd since there’s no real commitment or agreement , as if someone is trying to believe there’s a relationship when there isn’t .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:53 AM
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But can something be more than causal sex without mutual agreement as such ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:50 AM
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So technically , people define a friend with benefits as starting as a friendship , u know the person as a friend first. Where as a situationship is a directly sought status ( at least from articles )
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:50 AM
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Well there’s the issue of not all men being able to get casual sex. West elm Caleb wouldn’t be a thing if men could easily get casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:49 AM
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This is primarily being used by people who are never married yet , though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:27 AM
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Do you believe there's a meaningful difference between a situationship and casual sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:29 AM
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It was the "talking" phase. But did it involve sex at the time ? Like acknowledgment there's no commitment but with sex ? ​ It's just a pop culture explanation of an old phenomenon seen through new eyes. why do you think people seek to call it a situationship though ? doesn't it sound like they want to pretend its a relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:29 AM
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back blown out in hopes that a guy out of her league will like her. Almost never works out. agree half way. It doesn't necessarily need to be out of her league. Like, if a good looking guy is going on dates with multiple women and sleeping with them, there's little incentive to settle down with just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:26 AM
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Ok, but why do you think people seek a noun for it ? like it seems like the term situationship has a goal of sounding like relationship when its really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:25 AM
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ok, but why do you think people seek to use the term situationship ? a "ship" implies some form of relationship. Do you think its just cognitive dissonance ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:24 AM
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People back in the day started out dating like this. But a situationship implies no commitment and no goals. Is what started in the 70's the same ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:19 AM
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casual dating I don't think so. A situationship has no commitment and no goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:18 AM
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It’s called “situationship” now . It’s not even called casual sex any more. Look it up . You will see tons of articles in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:48 PM
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The issue is it’s now called “situationships” , it’s not called sleeping around anymore. It’s an abstraction where they give men sex without commitment but are in cognitive dissonance about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:47 PM
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Lol , triggered ? America is the country with the best colleges , smartest doctors and scientists , most famous movies . The Philippines was also a freaking territory of the USA for 50 years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:33 AM
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I stopped at men need to earn pussy. The moment a man believes he needs to earn something from women , women will not be attracted to him anymore. Women get wet for men that no one can stop or control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:36 AM
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You know many Asian and black couples? Like multiple? In real time? 5 in real life. 1 is where the guy is from Trinidad, 1 is from Nigeria, the other 3 are all American black guys. I'm in the SF bay area, which has a relatively high asian population, and in Oakland at least, a high black population. There's a number of BMAF couples on youtube as well, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9sV4i2K2UzDeUCO4Et8ajw
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:16 PM
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East Asians aren’t exactly fond of black people Thats because there's no black celebrities or athletes in East Asian countries. But I know many asian female black male couples, once a particular asian woman gets to know a black man, it usually works out well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:30 PM
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Key word is influenced meaning they look up to the west. Versus in the west , you are just an average Joe . Like in Singapore they use English as the official language . Who invented English ? The west.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:08 PM
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women who’s culture is completely different from mine as a modern western man. A lot of cultures are influenced and built off western culture, like Singapore or the Philipinnes .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:04 PM
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respect in the streets, worship in the sheets
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:48 PM

I'm saying that sex isn't necessary to your emotional well-being, and that living without sex is something that you can mature through and be a healthy and functional human-being regardless of. Nope, this is false. No one who's been sexless there entire lives has ever been happy. Nobody . Also the rate of STDs in nursing homes also proves you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:32 PM
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lol, my tinder profile matches says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:30 PM
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Fair point on country, but black men are also going abroad. Most passport bros on youtube are black.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:27 PM
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what if girls like me here It's not about like. It also depends what they want in a relationship. In the west they want to be bossy and control everything. They don't let men lead. Look up the Philip Scott show. He details this well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:26 PM
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men's bathrooms? Yes. Definitely. I hate it. I'm a shower rather than a grower too so that makes urinals more cumbersome
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:24 PM
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Exactly. I’m on the larger side to down there so sometimes I just go in a stall so other men won’t stare or make a comment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:30 PM
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Does that mean we shouldn’t have women’s bathrooms ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:15 PM
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Studying medicine at 19 , lol. Sure .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:15 PM

The issue is you are separating the concept of emotional well being and sex . You are desexualizing human beings , which is fundamentally flawed . Yes whining about not having sex isn’t mentally healthy . However, viewing the desire for sex as a mental health problem is counterproductive and toxic . The goal should be that yes to improve oneself but with a goal toward finding sex .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:21 PM

Sex doesn't necessarily bring you any closer to someone. In fact, it can just as likely bring you further apart. Lol, it's literally the closest act two people can do. You are closer to the people you have sex with than your parents or your children because of that. and a threat to women's liberties. I can't tell if this is a purge week meme or you are being serious. If you are being serious, You are an anti-sex feminist. I think the idea that an intimate sexual relationship is what you need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:15 PM

They're mutually exclusive. Nope. They aren't identical, but they are very similar. People build connection through sex. Men become more attached via regular sex, as do women. The idea of repeated sex being truly non-emotional is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:08 PM
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Disagree , women have loneliness because they can only have a situationship with Chad , not a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:38 AM
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. A stripper can make thousands in one night without being touched, No stripper makes that much, sorry. If they did sex work wouldn't exist. why would anyone sell their body for minimum wage? Look on sex worker subs. That's the average rate in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:22 AM
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Alimony and child support
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:28 AM
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Why is $300 cheap ? That’s expensive . Cheap is like $10 in Cambodia
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:24 AM
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Why would u consider $300 for homeless people ? That’s probably the going rate where he is per hour
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:24 AM
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This is a slippery slope fallacy . Just because a man feels he needs sex doesn’t mean he just wants to use women as a fleshlight . That’s like saying a woman who says she need love just wants to manipulate men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:57 AM
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Suuuuuure . Just a reminder it’s purge week
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:15 PM
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They are using the sperm bank because they don’t want to fuck some hot smart guy. If they wanted to just rawdog a Chad, they’d be doing that instead of paying several hundred dollars for a jar of baby batter. Not everyone wants to fuck Chad. They just don't know where to find chad. Not everyone knows a chad. My wife is disgusted by the idea of having sex with a man. sure. bisexual women make the best FFM threesomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:39 PM
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I disagree, the examples you use are celebrities that are known for being attractive. This means a man is using the knowledge to agree with that point. Men have a very hard time assessing normal every day men, and their attractiveness. Prime examples are men saying "women don't like tattoos" or "women don't like losers" or "these men are losers'. Men often impair their lense of attractiveness in other men with moral judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:51 PM
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Look up natural insemination
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:04 PM
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What do gay men have to do with this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:32 PM
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They would want to do it with you if they want sperm obviously . The purpose of sex is Soren
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:07 PM
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Sperm banks also spread false info that natural insemination is risky or dangerous . And they spread std propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:51 PM
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No women from China love white men , it’s not about citizenship , just be taller , and better looking than most men in China , and make more money . Passport bros are the future . American women are doomed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:49 PM
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Ok let’s do the maths . Woman with infertile husband goes to sperm bank , no sex with donor . Woman with infertile husband has sex with donor , sex occurs . So spermbanks lessens total amount of sex men are having
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:36 PM
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Ok finally someone got a good response . Now , with your third point , yes there’s groups that are actually seeking out real men for their sperm, but sperm banks spread nonsense BS that private sperm donors aren’t safe . So sperm banks existence is opposite to what men desire in life .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:35 PM
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No , asian women worship tech bros . Literally worship . I saw a group of Chinese female tourists in Menlo park literally taking pictures and Bowing down the Facebook sign at the meta office . It’s American women who don’t value wealth and success .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:33 PM
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Again , that is what they surveyed . That’s not who is realistically using a sperm bank. You can survey anyone on any topic , doesn’t meant your sample is a valid or representative one . I’m not sure why u are disqualifying women who seek sperm because their husband is infertile ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:32 PM
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Yes but women need to get very passionate to be more fertile . The ph of the vag needs to adjust to the man’s sperm. So doing it as often as possible prepares her for pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:30 PM
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No teenager is using sperm banks . Also very few women can get pregnant at 40+ . So you are skewing the data again. Also bucking a man’s wife who’s infertile ??? That’s like bliss times 20
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:28 PM
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Again, ugly creeps aren't losing out. They were never an option. This hasn't reduced sex for men. The kind of men who aren't getting sex never were gonna. This is the black and white fallacy. A man who's 6 feet, good looking, but works a nerdy tech job could get a lot more action without sperm banks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:25 PM
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1 in 1000 women use sperm banks, this is not the reason you can’t get laid It's not 1 in 1000, you have to only look at women of child seeking age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:19 PM
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Dude, women wouldn't have sex with you for a child. Not when hot men would eagerly fuck her no questions asked. False since women could just fuck the hot guy now for sperm instead of going to the sperm bank. Ugly creeps are not losing out on sex because of sperm banks. Y'all were never an option. sperm banks are more about smart men who are successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:18 PM
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Ok let me explain. Woman + sperm bank = no sex Woman + man's sperm = sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:12 PM
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No it takes a one time sex to make a baby so no sperm banks are not the reason why they aren’t fucking you. It takes way more than that. Usually. Sometimes you have to try for a while to conceive. Imagine having a lady that just wants to get pregnant, coming in weekly for her dose of sperm. That's pure bliss for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:09 PM
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their genetic line without paying to support a wife or child. Also without the bliss of coming inside. Nothing compares to the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:47 PM
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Why would u want an egg bank ? Like, the pinnacle of male experience is to ejaculate inside a woman. Nothing rivals it, aside from winning the nobel prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:46 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31371048/#:~:text=Result(s)%3A%20In%201995,estimated%20to%20have%20used%20it%3A%20In%201995,estimated%20to%20have%20used%20it). half a million women per year in the usa
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:44 PM
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its not just committing. even without the sperm banks, more men could have baby mommas
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:40 PM

What does regularly hooking up mean ? Are you seeing each other outside of the bedroom in some way or form ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:50 AM

Casual sex with multiple attractive people. It’s more exciting and fun. But it also depends on the effort / reward ratio. If too much effort is required for the multiple people option , overtime I would lean back toward committed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:39 AM
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I don’t think these are a good representation of play sized women since many of these are very well styled and dressed , perfect make up , nice outfit of showing belly and legs , etc. Like these women fall into the “chubby” category and not the “bbw” category
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:16 AM
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What if a man and women both want a relationship , but end up sleeping together on the 2nd date ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:10 AM
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Why is it the man’s job to say what he is looking for ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:00 AM
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You can call it casual dating. What if you are going on a couple of dates and having sex ? Also what do you define as a date ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:02 AM
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It’s not dishonesty. If someone isn’t interested in casual sex , they need to be waiting longer before they sleep with someone and voicing that. But also why is it assumed here women want a relationship with a man she has hardly been in a date with ? Maybe there’s some bias on Reddit from women who aren’t as socially active , but that perspective would only make sense if someone barely gets attention from men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:41 PM
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But what constitutes a relationship ? You seem to be implying a black / white fallacy here. Like do you define relationship as a long term committed one ? What if a guy wants a girlfriend but he’s not ready to have it progress further than that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:33 PM
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What do you mean not the default ? How is anything the default in dating ? Like if I meet a girl at the grocery store , get to talking , ask her out to a coffee date , is that a hookup ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:36 PM
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Looks matter but not the jaw line / genetic type looks. Like it what makes u look aggressive or powerful . Height , tattoos , muscles , are all part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:00 PM
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What do you consider a date ? Meeting for coffee ? Meeting for dinner ? Meeting to check out a milk tea cafe and then going for a walk ? The problem with your view point is you can’t really say you aren’t looking for anything right off the bat. You have to build some chemistry and physical contact first. Like I think a certain level of investment in a date (think a whole boat ride on a river ) would indicate romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:54 PM
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Condoms are an almost full proof prevention of pregnancy . Then there’s also birth control. Most people aren’t reasonably concerned about pregnancy unless they have conservative or religious view points about sex or abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:50 PM
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Like I can think of girls I fingered in high school or middle school, but I still considered myself a virgin until I had PIV. Oh ok now thats an important detail. In those age groups in my experience, there's a wider distance between 3rd base (below waist) and home base (PIV). And there might not be that much space between 2nd base (above waist) and 3rd. So if thats the case, I can agree 3rd base might not be sex. But when I got to college age or post college, there's no real spaces after 2nd ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:05 PM
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casual dating/relationships What do you consider casual dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:55 PM
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So you count all forms of sex as sex? Or only the ones that you personally deem to be sex? From your page, it would be all of them that go below the waste. But this is a different question. I am saying for myself, it's either I am ok doing anything sexual with woman, or I am not sexually interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:54 PM
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Yea, agreed here. I don't get how third base wouldn't be considered casual sex. I would say though the gap between second and third base can be big for some women, the gap between third and fourth is like nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:50 PM
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If you are having casual sex with someone that isnt aware of that - then its purely trickery and deception. But what does not aware mean though ? Like what if there's no discussion of it, just consensual kissing, foreplay, and sex after a date one day ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:47 PM
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What is with this stereotype that women get attached lol.Women are the ones who leave and break not the ones who get attached Women regularly, constantly talk about being "ghosted" on social media. I think you are confusing divorces and ghosting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:43 PM
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Woman obliges him and has sex, in the hopes of a relationship Yea then there's this whole "reeling" effect some women try, where if they have sex with the guy he will get more attached to her. And that even isn't considered casual
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:42 PM
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Then that doesn't say anything about the nature of how casual or exclusive it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:40 PM
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I would only have PIV sex in a committed long term relationship with someone I would be willing to, This is interesting. See because as a guy, all acts is the same standard. Me eating her out, her blowing me, full sex, whatever. It's either a pass or no pass . Is the BJ more doable for you because of the no risk of pregnancy / stds ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:39 PM
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If you're not "official" as a couple, if it's not paid for, and it's consensual, it's casual. Ok so to be clear, when you say coupled, you don't mean just "I am dating this guy" you mean when she says "my boyfriend". ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:36 PM
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but they’re empirically not the same commitment level as PIV sex. Are you saying there's considerable gaps in men you would give a BJ to versus men you would PIV to ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:29 PM
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By your definition, that’s casual…which makes your definition not that great. You didn't read my post. I specifically said: Repeat. Or, go out with a woman, see her for six months or a year, then meet another. The big point here is sex overall isn't hard to achieve or that you need to jump through hoops to get. Marriage is a "hoop" to jump through. Nothing in my description describes marriage. You are stringing a serious straw man here without actually reading the text.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:26 PM
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Nope, i just used that as an expression. It could even be men. just 100 people giving blow job to one person, separate instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:23 PM
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Yea I think that's what you intended to mean when I read your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:22 PM
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Separate instances, within 12 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:21 PM
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This is stupid. In that case, I’ve been having casual sex with my husband for the last 12 years since This argument is silly. No one reasonably assumes marriage is a form of casual sex. You can do better than that, come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:21 PM
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Genuinely if you are going on dates then there is romantic implication? What does romantic implication mean to you? many men resort to lies because often women dont like feeling tricked. If someone I have no feelings for ghosted me, I wouldn't care. But if a man lied to me about his intentions and then ghosted - Sure, makes sense. But what I am arguing is, men are viewing the female position in the dating market as casual sex, rather than sex that is explicitly casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:20 PM
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To be fair, as a guy I've never counted blowjobs either. If a man had 100 beautiful women give him a BJ, you wouldn't consider this casual sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:17 PM
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Because women wouldn't like him otherwise I mean you are comparing two different societies. It doesn't work that way. If the role of the woman in a society is to nurture and raise kids, men are liked for their ability to provide. Study african nations right now and how relationships work there. That's the only example of modern patriarchy for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:16 PM

and even calls himself a feminist. he lamented living in such a progressive area (PNW) and trying to date was a pain in the ass. "I can't even look at a girl in the gym or I'll get thrown out" I think he's perhaps an older generation progressive. You can't be a modern feminist and complain about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:13 PM
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This is pretty flawed. Patriarchy by definition assigns men a family role. First and foremost. Man is the breadwinner and leader of the family. men aren't trying to be incredibly macho, stoic, emotionally unavailable, assertive, or "brutes" Most of these take place in modern societies with hookup cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:10 PM
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Thats another factor, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:08 PM
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Wow. Her child is going to be an NBA star . Similar to how Yao Ming’s mother was the tallest woman in China
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:05 PM
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And I am more into collaboration than domination or competition. Collaboration isn't really an opposition to domination or leadership. It's how you think of situations. When a colleague has trouble filling a task, I am glad to help him. But when that happens, do you view yourself as equals ? Or because they needed help and you were able to provide it, you are smarter / more experienced than them ? Thats the key question .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:49 PM
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Why is the chromosomes being different a big deal? i’m still waiting for you to explain that. Would you say a healthy person is the same as a person with down syndrome ? Different chromosomes mean you genetically code different. The body produces different amounts of proteins and enzymes which create hormones at different rates. It's basically like saying the USA and China are both countries so they are the same, minus the governmemnts,
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:34 PM
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But being successful in your job or playing a music instrument or in sport is not increasing confidence related to dating. I think the key is you have to internalize certain achievements in such a way so that you recognize how they add value to you over other people. One example I have is doing interviewing for software engineers for my company. Seeing how much better I am and proficient at coding more than the college students I used to feel insecure with feels SO GOOD. You have no clue. It fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:27 PM
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They might be tall themselves , but unlikely looking for tall women since the countries they are going to have shorter people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:22 AM
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Fair points , but I think a lot of the black passport bros are going to the Philippines. I’m not an expert , but I think Filipinas might be darker on average than Thais or other Asians .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:21 AM
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That’s like the veteran generation of passport bros. A lot of passport bros now arent even white . A lot of the YouTube ones are black guys going to SE Asia .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:58 AM
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What’s the definition of a slave ? Unless the OP is in some country where women are legal property of men, this isn’t slavery…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:53 AM
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A dad bod is NOT equivalent to bbw. A dad bod is an average weight man. A bbw is obese . For 5 , no it is other women. In my experience , posting any women with a more round behind in gym attire causes women to claim she has a bbl
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:31 AM
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Women need cosmetic enhancement to really raise their SMV. Fillers and Botox , micro needling , laser treatments . Works wonders
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:56 AM
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The most efficient way for men is to become taller , richer , more buff , or make more money than a higher percentage of other men in your area. This involves either improving those qualities , or changing your area . For women , it’s cosmetic enhancement. Hands down . I say this as someone who has seen well educated , high earning software engineer women look tons better with some fillers / Botox / face treatments
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:55 AM
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The key thing here is, for men, physical attraction is like a diagonal line. The more you add, the more attention you get, in a linear manner, and at some point, a downward line ensues due to having too much of some qualities. With women, it's more of an exponential curve up. Example https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8164163d7c2defde7f80d2c61a56c602-lq Women still give a 7 foot guy a lot more points then a 5'6" guy. But men would give the short woman a lot more points then the 7 foot woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:22 AM
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You see single men and women wandering around? I don’t. I see couples everywhere. And I’m Gen Z. Nearly everyone in my social group is paired off. Are you in the more rural US ? I posted a study on this a few days back, interestingly, people in red states are marrying at 2-3x the rate of people in blue states
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:16 AM
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White skinny women with large breaststroke The size of asian female porn sites or subs dwarfs the white women ones now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:11 AM
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The woman is in a relationship. You realize a relationship doesn't guarantee sex ? or anything? Like not even feminists make this argument. You realize some relationships are abusive too, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:11 AM
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o you know what else is average....married adults, the average adult is married. less than 50% of US adults are married https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fewer-than-50-of-u-s-adults-are-now-married-its-time-to-give-more-legal-and-financial-breaks-to-single-people-law-professor-says-11664992681#:~:text=Fewer%20than%2050%25%20of%20U.S.%20adults%20are%20now%20married. So the average is now not married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:09 AM
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I'd guess it's mostly in OP's head. There are age gap relationships much larger than that. I'm in my 40s and when out with a girl in her 20s Yea. I would imagine as millenials and Gen Z do less and less well in the job market, age gaps will be more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:59 PM
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Do you really feel that a chubby guy in fashion advertising is unfair because he’s tall? He’s pudgy. That’s the criteria. Height is indeterminate in photos and adverts. Look, you are trying to argue that men and women have roughly equal opportunities in modeling while obese. You are also ignoring taller people don't look as fat as shorter people. You linked a man who's NBA level height claiming he was only casted for his weight. Unless you have a male of average height, who is casted to model be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:57 PM
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Is this the Zach Miko you are talking about ? https://instagram.com/zachmiko . Did you not realize he is 6’6” ? So what you are showing me is the only way a man gets to model at plus size is if he is extraordinarily above the average height , like 99.99% . I’ll be fair with you , if you can find me a male model that’s of an average or close to average height , and as overweight as Tess holiday , I’ll change my view
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:46 PM
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Neither can short men. But the difference is in body standards . Body type. We don’t see men being models if they are obese .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:27 PM
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Dang that’s impressive then .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:26 PM
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That’s cute . At least your honest you don’t know how women work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:58 PM
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I go to Walmart , target , sometimes Gap , or uniqlo. For sports wear usually puma
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:54 PM
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That’s a logical fallacy. Attraction is a thought . Sex is An action. Is a man attractive if he has sex with 1000 obese women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:53 PM
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Can you provide some examples ? There’s no modeling at Walmart, so no clue what u are referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:51 PM
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Height ? And weight ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:49 PM
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Nope I was actually pretty popular . But I didn’t have the confidence to act on that attention until some years later . Do you actually believe people age much at all between 22 and 27 ? That’s funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:49 PM
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Men peak in attractiveness in their early 20s just like women. Nope, on both counts. Men peak around 30. This is when they have their career and education set up , they feel more confident, and have more going for them. Women tend to be better closer to 30 or late twenties because they are more experienced and sure of themselves. They know more what they want. The best women couple up early and leave the dating scene. No way. Almost no woman outside of religious circles is getting married or hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:38 PM
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Men's dating peaks at 12-22?!? Dating is hardly legal at 12 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:35 PM
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Never seen that age gap IRL. Well I did have a couple of dates with a 20 year old when I was 26 but it was enough of abnormally that people took notice. What country are you in ? Do you have an older look about you? Normally its very hard to tell apart someone 26 and 20. ​ Also you seem oddly concerned about what others think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:33 PM
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First of all, lets look at the data https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220317-age-gaps-the-relationship-taboo-that-wont-die Although in 2014 the average age difference in US heterosexual relationships was a relatively small 2.3 years, many couples have a much wider gap. In Western countries, around 8% of male-female couples have an age-gap of 10 years or more, On average, men are 2 years older, with close to 10% of men being 10 years or more older. So there's a sizable population of age gap …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:32 PM
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fair response, i see what you mean how mens bodies have a limit of how interesting they are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:08 PM
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Men prefer a larger number of women, because they want more women. Women only need 1 man to be satisfied, men need many women to be satisfied. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense because the average man , most men, are not dating multiple women at the same time. Or are you saying men have a harder time finding women, and adjust their standards as such ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:03 PM
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I think a lot of people on this sub confuse preferences to standards. Preference = a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Standard = the rules that you set for yourself and follow in your life. Preferences and standards have no real meaning, so it's pointless to discuss this difference. When white men claim they have a preference for asian women, or black men do so for white women, people claim it's a standard. Then now, we are flipping and choosing a different definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:44 PM
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Also look at subs like ladyboners, most of top posts are muscular and tall. Only a handful are conventionally unattractive Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:41 PM
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Thet are all like, fuck self reflection it's the opposite genders fault I can't get a significant other. Straw man fallacy, no one is claiming it's women's fault for their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:41 PM
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It starts, and ends with personality, that's the greatest common denominator, it's the unified field theory, and tabula rasa of dating. Thats a non sequitur, everyone has standards for looks in dating, ands we aren't even talking about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:40 PM
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I still do not know what my league is lol Im 5’9 and african-american but throughout grade school and a little bit of a college (mid-late 20s now) I had a wide range of women who found me attractive Your league should be medium-high because black men have generally positive stereotypes where dating is concerned. This will increase if you are buff and fit the "jacked black dude" vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:31 PM
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Percentage of vacationing Americans who travel for vacation beyond 500 miles When I typed this into google, first result : 85% of Americans plan to travel this summer Pretty clear you are grabbing at straws here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:13 PM
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robotics represent a massive aggregate windfall in efficiency Robotics are not yet efficient outside of large scale raw material processing. Single robotic arms of a medium size are upwards of $35,000. That level of cost isn't scalable to the per employee level yet. Are you suggesting the owners of capital, who will now own the machines, OpenAI is a non profit , you can use chat gpt right now, no one ones it. AI is also a software that can be developed. If so, inequality will fucking skyrocket. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:58 AM
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US can't even afford to travel to the next STATE for a couple of weeks Very curious how you formulated that data point ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:19 AM
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the US where most men cannot afford and do not have the flexibility to even go to a nearby state for a couple of weeks Huh? In 2021, there were 612 million passengers on US domestic flights https://www.bts.gov/newsroom/full-year-2021-and-december-2021-us-airline-traffic-data#:\~:text=System%2Dwide%202021%20enplanements%20comprised,on%20international%20flights%20(unadjusted). Literally almost 2 flights per person per year, for every person in the country. Now obviously some people are repeat flie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:18 AM

and they all mentioned the strap, some seemed even turned on by it. The fascination that those women seems to have for violence made me uncomfortable. Women are trained to go after men with combat experience. It's a survival technique.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:54 AM
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Also, most passport bros on youtube or similar platforms are black. Philip Scott covers them regularly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YyDC_xURJY Are you trying to say something is not affordable, when the lowest earning group by race in America, is doing this just fine ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:37 AM
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It actually is more reliable in STEM contexts (programming, medical research) and much less reliable in things like writing and journalism (often formulaic in writing and will literally make things up or take "information" from blogs and reddit as though it were factual), Nope. chatGPT can't even write full software right now. A business cannot use it directly to say "write me a full web application with X database and Y Z, W features" . It definitely assists programmers though. ChatGPT, right n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:26 AM
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From the few books I have read human interaction jobs are going to be save for a long time - dealing with kids, patients (teachers and nurses) I don't see any issue with that. Nurses are some of the happiest, smartest women I have met. Very different from the venture capital / founder boss girl. Men also have their own stable human interaction jobs. Police officers, fire fighters, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:56 AM
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What data do you have that content based jobs are women? I thought journalism is male dominated. Here 64.3% of all social media associates are women, while 35.7% are men. https://www.zippia.com/social-media-associate-jobs/demographics/ Or https://www.statista.com/statistics/1250206/gender-marketing-north-america/#:~:text=Women%20held%2060%20percent%20of,roles%20being%20held%20by%20women. manual labour however has always been in danger by technology. Those are male orientated. Truck drivers for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:47 AM
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ah ok thats a good point. divorce with alimony and child support is an inherent disincentive toward marriage. If a court can provide women the benefits of marriage without the spouse, then that's a road block....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:36 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to give an well thought out reply, others haven't. Traders, investment bankers, coders, software engineers and data analysts are among the jobs at risk. So far, with the current GPT-3 and GPT-4 models, the most that can be done is answering questions about software or parts of a programming language, AI doesn't write full software solutions a business can package and use . Now, could this cause an increase in employee productivity and lead to less staff being hired ? P…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:30 AM
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Yours is based off of hypothetical scenarios . No coders have been replaced by chatgpt, it doesn’t even make full software . Mean while content writers who are women are being fired already https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/copywriter-fired-bosses-started-calling-142441650.html
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:36 PM
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It’s not my idea , this is something supported by studies https://www.mcknightsseniorliving.com/home/news/tech-daily-news/ai-threatened-jobs-are-held-mostly-by-women-study/#:~:text=Human%20resources%20analytics%20firm%20Revelio,are%20generally%20held%20by%20women. I mention onlyfans since it’s the most popular paid form of sexual entertainment . But any form of digital entertainment for sex would be under threat from AI. I have nothing against anyone here . I think sex work would be more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:19 PM
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will also be lower because employees assume married women will have children and go on maternity leave or be a burden to work flow due to childcare. Unheard of in most high income places. There's even paternity leave in many companies of the tech world. Also that leaves companies open to discrimination law suits. Most can't ask if your married. and simply ones own vehicle is more than likely where these women would end up, rather than running to marriage. Oh now thats just ridiculous. Women maki…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:38 PM
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Over 3 million babies born in the US in 2022... And equal or more than that died In 2022, approximately 3,273,705 deaths† occurred in the United States. The estimated 2022 age-adjusted death rate decreased by 5.3%, from 879.7 per 100,000 persons in 2021 to 832.8. COVID-19 was reported as the underlying cause or a contributing cause in an estimated 244,986 (7.5%) of those deaths (61.3 deaths per 100,000). https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:27 PM
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Those people aren't going to be able to keep their same standard of living by getting married. Their financial quality of life is going to drop significantly unless they get hitched to a high earning male that also shares access to his wealth. I'm confused, why would getting married not be a solution here ? You are pooling two incomes into one. If one income stops, the other takes over until the other one finds a new job. No man that can barely afford his 3-5K rent is going to take on the econom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:23 PM
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Women have shown that they would much rather live in poverty or have multiple roommates, "Friends" or "Golden Girls" style, than live with a man they don't want. I haven't seen this to be the case of gen Y or gen x at least. Now, my perspective may be skewed since I am mostly observing the after effects of the tech lay offs, but women who are used to earning a good income while single will not be ok with dramatic life style changes. As someone who survived the layoffs so far, I am shocked by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:11 PM
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People have gotten used to living life as it is. Being financial struggle or abundance on their own. People are adapting to their poorer quality of life on their own if they don't have friends or family to help them out. I'm not really talking about people already poor. I'm not referring to the barista in your local hipster coffee shop rooming with her besties. I am referring to that software engineer woman who went to a top school and interned at facebook, or similar. These people have very hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:07 PM
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--too many women have enough financial independence that they won't pick or stay with one man long term. They have the option not to, so they'll choose not to. Financial independence != financial freedom and lifestyle. With the economics at play, having a high salary, living in the city, eating out every night, having that nice condo, is going to be harder and harder as a single person as time goes on. --we are megatrending away from lifelong lifetime legally binding partnerships. Even marriage …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:44 PM
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and while it’s not there yet, robotic driving is going to be here in a decade or less. There's zero evidence of level 5 autonomous vehicles being operational, at any near point in the future. A good article on this https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-10-06/even-after-100-billion-self-driving-cars-are-going-nowhere Now, more automatic versions of buses or public transit systems could be on the rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:41 PM
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Relationships and monogamy are a given. Right now they aren't. The amount of single men and women in their 20's and 30's is very high. . However, I'll give you a point for pointing the distinction of monogamy and marriage. I haven't researched that fully yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:39 PM
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Because lower salaries will mean that that 'one provider, one homemaker' pair bonds will become a historical fantasy and not something attainable in the real world. I am arguing two incomes while married instead of being single and earning a higher income will be increasing in popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:30 PM
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I also think the world has too many people so governments should not be incentivising more The world has too few people. Population rates are already going down. They need to go up for business to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:17 PM
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Wasn’t something like this already posted a few days ago? that was about the return of the patriarchy, which is not what I am arguing. And also ignoring the fact that robotics aren’t far behind AI in terms of automation. Meaning male-dominated jobs (such as construction and manufacturing) are at just as much of risk of automation as female-led industries in the next few years. Nope. Thats because robotics, unlike software, is very very very expensive. A single, small robotic costs $31k. That's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:58 PM
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There wasn’t a marriage boom in 2008 after everyone got shitcanned, 2008 was the highest point of US China collaboration and shipping manufacturing jobs over seas. Not really comparable to what we are experiencing with Xi and the current conditions. and AI putting latte sipping copywriters out of work won’t turn them into housewives for HVAC guys. Well what are they going to do ? If they want to spend most of their time on instagram or social media, or sit in coffee shops , what are the options?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:46 PM
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Anyone saying that is just wrong. You can put all the emphasis you want on looks and not objectify someone. Ok, what is it then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:20 PM
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I know what you are referring to , but In theory , one can only support a philosophical idea to the point it’s practical . A lot of homes in this states for example are priced for two incomes or someone saving up for a long time to get one on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:38 PM
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Marriage is one of the few easy paths to wealth creation. Cost of living is higher when single as opposed to having a spouse. But then why would marriage rates be almost inversely correlated to cost of living by state ? The states with the highest cost of living have the lowest marriage rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:57 PM
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Should she wear baggy jeans to ensure no man harrasses her? Should she wear the little crop top to match? Or should she wear a t shirt and jeans which actually left more to the imagination? We are comparing young women to old women. If old women are reporting being invisible, clearly something is different than what young women are doing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:58 PM
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You mean people dressed in scrubs? Does this mean that homeless people are actually all really smart? Homeless people can't afford scrubs lol. You can do better than a logical fallacy, come on now. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:57 PM
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She literally has a t-shirt and jeans on. Those are very tight jeans on. Again, we are talking about if the goal is to dial down sexual appeal. There's also such a thing as baggy jeans https://images.ctfassets.net/q602vtcuu3w3/1OCdcZR90muoJyNB3IdNL3/a63fd69cb83f51137fcf452a60f344f7/23_APR_WK1_TOP_VERTICAL_BANNERS-27.jpg?w=563&q=80&fm=webp
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:51 PM

A sole woman cannot emphasize family life on her own. Active participation from other people within the family is required, including the active participation of males beyond financial contributions. The USA doesn't encourage family life. The USA looks down on multi-generational households, when for many immigrant families, they work at well. Grand parents help raise grand kids, parents and kids help care for grand parents, and income is pooled between people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:50 PM
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Not for me to explain the why, just explaining the what I think this can be explained by the viral cat calling video from close to a decade back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HI4DC18wCg It's clear here, this young woman is still flaunting her big bottom with tight clothes. You wouldn't see an old woman dress like that. Note: harassment is always the fault of the harasser, but we need to be honest when talking about what dialing down appearance really means.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:45 PM

the issues these create have pretty much equated to a disconnection from the spiritual realm as a whole, a loss of connection to the environment and land around us, as well as a form of hyper-individualism hyper individualism and capitalism are two distinct concepts. Many immigrant families in the USA are actually the opposite of individualist but pro capitalist. They have multi-generational households and pool family resources and work . Grand parents take care of grand kids when parents need a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:42 PM

Aways blame the capitalism when you've had the most prosperity and advancement during the capitalist society. I think what OP is referring to is individualist capitalism, where there's a huge push for women to become CEOs, surgeons, doctors, etc. With no emphasis on family life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:39 PM
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Why do men focus on younger women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:34 PM
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The word "objectify" has a definition, Do you know the difference between a connotation and denotation ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:14 PM
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Most women have fewer than 10 sexual partners in their lives. Nope. You are misinterpreting the data. In order to determine lifetime sexual partner count, one would need to only survey a woman at what one would consider the end of their life period where they might acquire new partners. Your data shows counts for women between the ages of 25-49. The woman at 25 who says she has 8 partners could have 25 by the time she reaches 49. Additionally, you can see in your data there's an obvious lie bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:13 PM
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The fact that they cannot turn it to zero is something women have complained about as men still hit on them even when they do not want to. Basically it's a great power, but it also comes with obvious downsides. I think the tricky part with "dialing to zero" is it's only dialing it to zero for certain men while keeping it open or above zero for other men. I say this because of the phenomenon that old women report being invisible. So if old women are getting it right, they are doing something diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:01 PM
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what would putting a large emphasis on your personality over your appearance look like? I would say it's what female scientists or doctors are like. Very intellectual people with very little attention to their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:58 PM
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If a man reaches 30 without having sex naturally or going overseas to do it for pay, it means he's likely not that sexual of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:56 PM
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how does one put a large emphasis on their own appearance over personality? Dress revealingly, wear big eye lashes, lip stick, post thirst traps on social media, then there's cosmetic enhancement too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:51 PM
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Disagree, sexuality is very very empowering for women. It's not fake. It's real. Women love when a man they find attractive can't resist them. It puts a smile on their face bigger than someone who wins the lottery. Objectification is still objectification no matter who is doing it and women are doing it to themselves now. You haven't shown why objectification of self isn't actually empowering. Your attempting to use a moral argument as an ultimatum, not much difference than a communist saying we…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:50 PM
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you can't objectify yourself since it's impossible for you to see yourself as anything other than yourself, When people use the term "objectify" they are actually implying to put large emphasis on appearance over personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:45 PM

Strip clubs are for dancing and viewing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:01 PM
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Personally, I think the data from 2010 onward is the most interesting. It's not clear why it would raise again for a few years, and then fall faster than it did ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:48 AM

Can u link one as an example ? The OP talks about podcasts and then also mentions bars , but there’s so many videos , hard to understand stand what’s being specified
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:09 AM

A police officer who has done possibly thousands of stops and breathalyzer tests would be very good at telling when someone is drunk. Not someone viewing a video whom barely goes out themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:06 AM

I’m not sure about feminists , but if a woman has a hot bod and is the same height as me , I wouldn’t turn her down for that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:59 AM

Nope I would disagree for the following reasons: Height doesn't really factor into looks or body type. I have seen super skinny tall women and curvy / thick tall women. Female height tends to produce taller sons. Shaq's mom was 6 feet and his dad was 6'3", but shaq ended up being 7'2". Similar with Yao Ming,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:27 PM

There’s a difference between an above average man who puts in a lot of effort and gets returns , versus a man who is a magnet for women. I don’t disagree with you at all that elements of emotional intelligence and personality can arouse and turn on women more. But , a man who’s 6’4” or 6’5” and good looking , it’s like an auto pilot but for getting phone numbers and dates .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:21 PM
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First of all I’m speaking about individual women , and men, or my own experiences . I’m a somewhat good looking software developer , nothing close to a celeb . Now , Dicaprio is 48 years old. He is in the range where people call out age gap relationships . Also a white man in the media in the USA is always a potential target for criticisms. A better example would be Rafael nadal or Cristino Ronaldo . They are viewed as pinnacles of male sexuality and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:21 PM
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Nope. Women are fascinated and obsessed with the sexuality of a man they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:35 PM
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I think it merely exposes the fact that many women in the past would marry out of economic necessity. A decent career completely removes that incentive. That's a different concept. You can earn over 6 figures being a nurse , and next to nothing (potentially) with a phd in history. Not saying your wrong, but earning potential is a different part of dating than the level of degree and status. Your “leftover women” are exactly this group. Sort of, Mao coined the phrase "women hold up half the sky",…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:15 PM
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Educated women aren’t dating uneducated men and don’t care what uneducated men think about them. Educated women aren’t dating men who believe her education and vocation are unimportant. Note this is a logical fallacy because it postulates that educated men care about education.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:20 PM
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Especially as a lot of OF is essentially just porn. Did you not read my comment ? Porn != sex work in the USA. Porn is legal, sex work isn't. The legal ramifications of having an only fans isn't that different than posting enticing pictures on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:16 PM
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OF usually involves nudes and the most successful OF girls have sex/masturbate on camera , it’s similar to camming which is considered sex work. I didn't see you are a brit before. In the USA, prostitution itself is illegal, while in the UK it's not. So in the USA, digital work isn't usually called sex work because its not doing anything illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:44 PM
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It’s pretty obvious the way they’re usually slurring and uhhh, the fact they’re walking out of a bar late at night. This is a reach and completely unrelated to the actual post. So ALL videos of any woman outside of a bar is where they are all drunk ? You are the one reaching here. It would be better if you leaked a video so it can be discussed properly, rather than making sweeping statements. Also claiming any behavior in bars or where alcohol served is not genuine is far reaching too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:43 PM
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The fact is they’re drunk, wanting to have a good time, imagine how disorientating it would be to have a camera and lights shoved in your face while someone rattles off questions at you. How do you know they are drunk or what their alcohol intoxication level is ? The person in question is completely sober, has a few debating fallacies up their sleeve and they have the same comebacks they parrot off every time. How do you know the person doing the interview is sober ? All assumptions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:32 PM
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cold approach is good but need to look for how open a woman is, and signs of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:25 PM
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and then interviewers bombarding random girls outside bars. While it's fair that OF women aren't representative of the average woman, why do you feel bars are not ? The vast majority of people go out for a drink on some regular basis. Younger people tend to more, but most discussions around women center on women between 20-35 anyways,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:24 PM
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almost exclusively represent women who are in sex work and are obviously only there to promote their OF. OF isn't sex work. OF is just being paid to exist and take pictures of yourself. I'm not saying women with an OF are representative of the average woman either, but the fact you make this claim signals you have an upper class bias. I’m educated and in a high earning field because I enjoy it. Im in a LTR but I know that if I were single, quite a few men would be put off by my job. And that’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:22 PM
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if you're dating a woman who's mostly had one-night stands, the bar is probably subterranean. Depends on the woman in question, but most of the time, it's still a high bar. We don't know if OP of this comment train is a handsome fella who was also a virgin, this is sometimes a turn on for women, IF the guy is very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:15 PM
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Do you have a source for porn stars fucking celebrities , beyond Donald Trump and stormy Daniels ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:11 PM

So I think you are confused about women. See women want their lover to ALSO be their friend . But friend is NOT a first step to being a lover. A woman will desire or be interested in a man as a lover BEFORE any friendship actions occur . “Oh that guy , he’s cute ! I wonder if he will treat me nice” No amount of friendship produces love . The bases of love must be there first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:00 AM

That’s not true at all. Romantic relationships have a much deeper level of investment and connection then friendships do . We don’t relate to friends at all the same way we do to our SO. As a counter example , there’s many things and ways I connect with my mother that I don’t do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:57 AM
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Why do you feel the need to state you out earn your husband ? What problems are you speaking of with women that I dated ? You sound obsessed with feeling superior over men yourself tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:51 AM
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That’s a nice ad hominem there . All the women I have dated have masters or a PhD . While I have a bachelors , So no threatened feeling there . It just so happens Chinese men don’t like a woman with phd , and Chinese women like Jewish people a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:34 AM

Self improvement is more about taking things you are passionate about and becoming a master at them. This leads to lasting happiness and fulfillment. Example, your username indicates you might like attack on titan or anime. Do something with that. Start a youtube channel, or do cosplay stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:49 AM
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you don't see someone like say Elon Musk for example going to McDonald's trying to pick up women there. Elon Musk has dated Amber Heard and I believe a musician . So he's dating women less successful than him in terms of earnings and business.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:45 AM
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Educated career women don't "have trouble" attracting men. ​ False. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/26/a-new-book-answers-why-its-so-hard-for-educated-women-to-find-dates/ Two women in their late 20s walk into a Manhattan bar. One, an energetic blonde named Jayne, is the cofounder of a financial technology start-up. Her friend, Tina, is a computer programmer with a tattoo and an Ivy League degree. Both single, they instinctively know not to talk about their jobs with any men …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:39 AM
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wouldn’t she become a stripper or a porn star Nope, this is easy to disprove, very few high earning, high status men marry women in the sex industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:38 AM
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Is there any reason to think that male manufacturing jobs are coming back but female ones aren't? That seems like a really specific prediction that I'm not seeing any justification for. Nope, there isn't. I don't agree with that part either. I think what we will see if a lot of areas in the digital world where women dominated like instagram or tiktok start to be hit by AI, similar with marketing etc. Same thing with only fans too. Then, these new manufacturing jobs will I think benefit women who…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:54 AM
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note there are ZERO 6’4” AND ‘jacked’ ‘Chad’s’ in AI. It’s part of the reason I moved. 🤣 Oh wow, wait, you are a woman who moved away from the bay area due to lack of attractive men ? Now this is fascinating. Why do you feel, if this is the case, that in a city with so many high earners, you didn't find anyone that you felt good with or drawn to ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:50 AM
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Yes. Much more so jewish ones. This is part of the reason I have bonded so well with Chinese women, their admiration for judaism is unparalleled, and so is my admiration for their culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:48 AM
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Do Chinese men not want women with a PhD because of looks, their personality, are they more difficult ? It's because of the phd . For an in depth article, the wikipedia article on left over women explains it well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheng\_nu Important to note this is strictly mainland China, other Asian countries like Singapore are more accepting of highly educated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:46 AM
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Well women going into jobs they had in the past like with textile work isn’t exactly an upgrade . The bigger point is those women in HR or marketing will be the Hardest impact , as most of this can be done with AI. Chat gpt is already doing jt
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:28 AM
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See, this is actually a counter-point to your post. You can date any women yet you go for women with masters and phd. Why? It could be a counter point, but it depends on the observer. I'm a software engineer in the Sf bay area, so the vast majority of most companies are asian / south asian immigrants with at least a graduate degree, due to H1B visa requirements. Chinese people tend to have a very favorable view of Jewish people, and ( the men ) an unfavorable view of women with advanced degrees …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:36 AM
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It would depend on the type of condition . From what I know , most people with physical based disabilities , like missing limbs , paralysis , but no brain disease do have sex or manage to have sex in the ways they are able to. So if this was the case , that can work , if we have kids . Now if it’s a brain based disease like dementia or Huntington’s disease , I think I would leave but still offer her support and care for her illness . Brain diseases are very very tough. Often times people stop re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:53 PM
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But see , I want the beautiful developer that does backend work , I don’t want the depressed , anxious doctor who’s a butter face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:46 PM
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Ok this I can agree with . That’s really insightful on the trend changing . I predict with the rise of AI, graduate programs in things like English or content based studies will decrease too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:45 PM
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Many women in Shanghai and ShenZhen in China I met with phds. At least the mindset is that they want mature , good looking foreigners like myself . Now China still has some remnants of a patriarchy system , so some of that could be due to Chinese men not wanting anyone with a PhD . In the USA , it’s most like woman doctors that have this mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:44 PM
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That’s an assumption . The point is we only know the actions she took.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:25 PM
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No , do you not get the difference between a direct and indirect relationship ? Direct: Women want to get educated and get a career because they want to attract men . Indirect: Women want to get educated and get a career for themselves . But as a result , with higher self esteem , they view themselves as more attractive .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:24 PM
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It’s an indirect relationship. Women feel they want more attractive men or can get more attractive men as a result of being more educated .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:45 PM
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Exactly , and how do these women get near these men ? Getting more educated and better careers . So the whole effect of the career and education is getting to go after higher status or more attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:43 PM
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Put it this way , I think the ideal relationship is between bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton . Hillary is one of the most successful , boss ladies on earth. Enough to call out Xi and Putin. But when Bill has affairs or women accuse him of shit , she’s there to defend him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:40 PM
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Have you not been to Palo Alto ? I have personally met men like this at the career fair in Stanford university when recruiting for my company
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:23 PM
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Ok good points here . We would need a finer grained study in marriages to get more to the bottom of how education plays into it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:09 PM
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No way. Being a doctor is a much longer journey and takes more time. Most doctors I know look down on software engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:03 PM
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Woman A gets masters in comp sci. Woman A then sees AI chad gpt bro who’s 6’4” and jacked in a Palo Alto cafe , whom also has a masters in comp sci. Woman A now thinks she deserves this guy. See how that works now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:03 PM
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Why would a tech bro not admire it ? I’m a tech bro and I would love chatting about the heart of darkness , beloved , or other novels with her . But that doesn’t alter how hard I get for her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:00 PM
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Your misinterpretation of this study is shocking. It’s saying more educated women have higher standards. Not that they think they’re more attractive In order to have higher standards you must believe you are able to meet those standards. These are also raised standards in response to a change in self. These are not disjoint thoughts. many studies show women's self esteem is tied to what kind of men they date too. Women with low self esteem tend to have lower standards in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:51 PM
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“For many women who are educated to degree level and beyond, finding a partner with similar educational credentials is important. However, men don’t share the same expectations.” (Italics mine) This proves my point. Women thinking education == attractive. Men thinking looks == atractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:03 PM
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Look at ladyspinedoc on tiktok. Her husband must be like 5'4" and he's a butter face. Are you telling me this woman didn't settle ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:02 PM
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We get degrees because we want to. That’s it Right, then when you have the degree, you think you are as appealing as the women who has focused on her appearance and also has a degree. Thats the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:52 PM
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No she won’t, she will think the average man is less attractive. Not that she is more attractive, you have it backwards. We perceive the attractiveness of others in relationship to ourselves. That's why many people who are over weight or obese data other overweight or obese people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:51 PM
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No. A loser in the United States will likely be a loser in Japan. You'd probably actually be more of a loser in Japan, because they have many more social norms and customs that are significantly less forgiving. No, japan and the united states have vastly different average heights, income, and size of men. Men in Japan are much shorter than the USA, so any man going to Japan has an instant height boost benefit. This is not even discussing the epidemic of hermit men in Japan. Sorry. Men need to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:26 PM
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Women raises her standards as she gets to a higher position, because that’s what she wants from a partner. Not necessarily because she thinks it makes her more attractive. You can only logically raise your standards in a partner if you believe you can attract such a partner. The misunderstanding here is the projection that women do things just to get more attractive for men. No. Women pursue education and career first of all for themselves. And this was never argued. I am only discussing how wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:24 PM
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If she can't accept rejection she shouldn't be dating in the first place. But just because she has a 'butter face' doesn't mean she has to change who she's attracted to... she just needs to accept, as all people who date need to accept that the people she's interested in also have the right to say no. I'm in full agreement with you. I never said they shouldn't go after anyone. I prefer being honest and transparent rather then people claiming " no one " does this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:22 PM
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Unfortunately that is not the demographic I am pursuing <3 Sounds like you are pursuing more attractive men thinking they are attracted to your degree. Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:21 PM
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I've literally met men who will only date women who attended an Ivy or equivalently prestigious school. Are these men themselves graduates of ivy league schools ? or such schools?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:16 PM
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Two women in their late 20s walk into a Manhattan bar. One, an energetic blonde named Jayne, is the cofounder of a financial technology start-up. Her friend, Tina, is a computer programmer with a tattoo and an Ivy League degree. Both single, they instinctively know not to talk about their jobs with any men who approach them. “Guys shut down,” Tina says. Thank you. This captures precisely what I am getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:13 PM
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I'd much rather start a relationship with a 6/10 woman with looks with some sort of high education or a good job, than with an 8/10 woman with looks, without a job, high education, or any kind of plan for her future. Ok, here's a better comparison Would you pick the 8/10 software engineer with a bachelors or would you pick the 6/10 doctor ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:08 PM
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Throughout history "young women of good breeding" have been educated in the arts, household management, etc because those skills please men. Ok, this is an interesting point for sure, but that's a different sort of education than what is pushed for today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:06 PM
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Oh so you are arguing against men/women focusing on only looks. I can agree with that, but that's sort of different than conflating education and looks,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:04 PM
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is doing it to be attractive? That's a red herring. I never stated women get educated to be more attractive. I stated because a woman is educated, she will believe she is more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:00 PM
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Sorry, no one believes that. We pursue education for ourselves. We may hope to be acknowledged for our achievements, but I really don't know anyone who would believe her degree will make her more attractive. Why do more educated women have trouble finding dates then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:59 PM
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They can't consciously change what they are attracted to any more than a gay man can be forced to turn straight. Men liked women even when they were jobless and uneducated. They don't care about the new accomplishments and they can't force themselves to care. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:51 PM
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They do not. Some men may do that, but women follow their strengths and interests and seek independence. There isn’t a woman on the planet who sits with her college advisor at 18 and says “Which vocation attracts the most men?” Ok you are not reading what I am typing. Let me try one more time. Women A chooses to become a doctor. She does this purely for her own desires, and her own dreams. Nobody elses but hers. In medical school, she starts to seek out men , but now that she has made it to med …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:50 PM
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What I am saying is have your little beliefs but you're dead ass wrong. While I am thrilled for your happiness, your experience doesn't match the data. A new book answers why it's so hard for educated women ... Why Are Well-Educated Women Struggling to Find Love?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:48 PM
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I think you didn't read my last comment: I am talking more about college educated vs trade schools. Or college vs non-college educated. There's a massive difference between people who never went to college vs college. There's a minor if any difference between people with a bachelors and masters. or a phd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:45 PM
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Do men actually believe that women choose a career in order to impress men rather than to make a living and support themselves? That's a straw man, you know that, come on now. Here, let me phrase it in your terms. Because women chose a career to support themselves, women think doing so makes them more attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:41 PM
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It is preferable to be with an educated 6/10 than to be with an 8/10 who believes that 5G masts are mind control devices because her hairdresser saw it on a Youtube video But the point is the 6/10 is still a 6/10. She likely won't be able to land a chad from stanford business school just because she's educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:37 PM
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The average woman doesn’t have a PhD. The average woman doesn’t even have a masters. The women that are pursuing advanced degrees aren’t doing it necessarily to attract attention. The reason they do it is a complete red herring here. The point is the average looking women with a phd thinks she's more attractive because of that phd. She isn't in terms of the looks department. See studies show a man losing his job or role puts his marriage at risk, but not the case for women losing their job. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:36 PM
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Young men underestimate how important these things are to building a family because they’re mainly focused on looks and fucking at that age. Are you implying women aren't focused on looks ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:30 PM
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For a woman with a doctoral degree, that's a man with a doctoral degree and vice versa. Nope. Not at all what I meant. I am talking more about college educated vs trade schools. Or college vs non-college educated. I have a dual degree in computer science and chemistry , all the women I have dated have been masters or phd, and I know far more about some subjects than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:28 PM
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I'm confused, are you implying that education makes a woman more attractive to men? Or are you saying you want to be admired for your accomplishments ? Those are two different things. I already stated I believe similar education is important to be more compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:25 PM
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most women do things for themselves or to impress other women Unless a woman is LGBT, we have to assume how she perceives her own attractiveness is related to how she relates to men. What something is done "for" is a red herring here. This is self reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:23 PM
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Ok , so why did women not get to drive in Saudia Arabia until 2018 ? Why does Iran still shoot women for not wearing the hijab ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:58 PM
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This post doesn’t state if the condition is permanent or not , which would be two very different scenarios . If it’s temporary , no problem , just help her heal and get better . If it’s permanent , at this age and stage of my life (late 20’s early 30’s) I would leave her simply because there’s no point in investing a whole life of care giving into someone who can’t improve. My mother also would not want a mother for her grand kids that can’t move or can hardly have kids .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:38 PM
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Cancer is usually a temporary battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:35 PM
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Ah, so that’s mixing morals with attraction , which is an entirely different argument . Tinder matches won’t be useful here because we need to know if women sleeped or went out with such men. Being matched doesn’t say a whole lot because they still need to meet in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:31 PM
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Poor decision in the eyes of whom ? Again , what defines a predatory relationship ? What’s the difference between a predatory and healthy relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:19 PM
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I’m confused , how can we tell they are “slaying” , are you referring to a study ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:18 PM
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Ok let’s start with the basics then , do you believe you receive as much attention from women as NBA player does ? Like do you believe you have as much women available to you as lebron or Shaq or any of those 6’8” guys do ? Then, do you believe you have more women and female attention then guys who are only 6 feet tall ? You really seem to be not understanding the term “relative”. At all . No one is questioning that 6’3” isn’t a very good height. All I am trying to point out is there’s differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:17 PM
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Nope. Women judge men on their appearance , but men need to say and do more than their appearance to get a woman into bed with them. It has to be where the man does X Y Z to make the woman feel desired by him and validated by him. Meanwhile , if a woman looks good to a man, there’s very few things a woman can say to break that attraction he has to her. Also an example , women’s erotic literature is insanely popular , where there’s almost no erotic literature for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:11 PM
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What’s a predatory relationship ? I thought we support consensual choices women make ? Or men make ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:06 PM
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I’m confused , are you disagreeing with me ? It’s pretty obvious in the absence of feminism , women do not have the same good outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:59 PM
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The Netherlands isn’t an outlier at all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country Bosnia , Germany , Sweden , are all 5’11.5 average height . The dinaric alps is 6’1” average height . Also I don’t see how your examples disprove anything I have said . Tall is still relative . Being a few inches above the average height is very , very different than being half a foot or more above the average height . This is mathematics , not pedantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:54 PM
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The moment I say, I'm a programmer/developer you can see the shift in the mood and how the woman dry like a desert. I had far more success saying that I spent time in jail than that I'm a dev. YES. Plus, this causes devs to mostly only be able to date other devs or women in the industry, which is a small pool of women overall, relative to what a doctor or politician might have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:27 AM
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What has happened with women would have happened with or without feminism (it might have taken longer without the movement). The Ayatollah of Iran would like a word with you .....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:18 AM
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This is easy to disprove. A tall, lean handsome man will kill it anywhere. Did you read my post ? As mentioned, tall is a relative term. a 6 foot guy is somewhat tall in the USA, average height or below average slightly in the netherlands, and NBA level tall in Asian countries. Same with appearance, wealth, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:17 AM
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I was talking to Guy X yesterday: 6’1”, low-30s, in shape, moderately successful, socially capable, above averagely handsome with an n-count over 50. That’s surprising to me: most guys I know who rack up numbers like that do so rather easily. A man cannot easily get women unless he is a few standard deviations above the average in the surrounding male population in specific characteristics. 6'1" and moderately successful isn't that much of an outlier in the USA. The average height is 5'9.5" for …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:35 AM

She wouldn't dare speak this garbage at work or at a happy hour I here talk about white men having too much power literally every day at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:00 AM
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No, Peter only comments on geo politics. no local politics. He's really smart. He predicted China's first population drop this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:57 AM
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cleaning and caring are both heavily dominated by women, and neither of those things will be replaced by robots as soon as other professions. These aren't the jobs that gave women power in the work place though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:56 AM
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This is hot flaming garbage. It's not. I would listen to Peter Zeihan, he's extremely knowledgable about geopolitics, and predicted China's first fall in population this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:54 AM
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And what makes you think that it will ever be legal to hire only men? What makes you think being sexists towards 50% of humanity will be legal? And why not also say we'll also reverse laws which made it illegal to hire only white men - do you think that will happen too? Wha makes you think these things? Just saying, look at the popularity of Trump and now Desantis with his slashing of adversity initiatives. The rise in being "anti-woke" is gaining a lot of traction. They key element in this post…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:50 AM
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Points 1 & 2: manufacturing is already way more automated than it was before WWII, and robotics technology is not far behind AI. This upcoming round is probably going to be worse for women than for men, but if you think normal men are the winners in the overall trend you're deluded. Thats not true regarding manufacturing as a whole in the consumer market place. Yes, stuff like raw materials is automated now. You don't have humans making urea or nitric acid in factories. But most consumer items ,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:47 AM
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Men are becoming more and more feminine and women are becoming more and more masculine... But if the job positions reverse, then this won't happen. If you have more and more manufacturing jobs and less and less writer / content creation jobs , the masculine roles for men will come back more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:42 AM
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The men with the most access to women abuse them the most? Weird point. Why is it weird? If women are thinking about their safety in dating, they should take note of what types of men are most likely to commit violence against them. The amount of domestic violence charges for football / basketball / other athletes is sky high. If they don't , then it's just talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:39 AM
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that they significantly out-attend colleges compared to the men they wish to date, the men who by and large don't have educational requirements for their partners. Just a supply and demand problem It's also an inflation problem. Women self value their education and career as much as their looks, which men do not. This causes an unequal standard of valuation. The super hot, big ass doctor is not at all equal or even close to plain jane doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:53 PM
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Self improvement is good, not as good as switching locations that makes you more handsome / taller / wealthier than the general population
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:50 PM
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I bring a ton to the table: looks, personality, career. I have my own money and I’m highly educated. I work out and have a good body. Why would I want to date some schlump? My thought is maybe you are viewing your looks and personality as equal in weight to your education, career, and money. Education, career, and money do not matter to men nearly as much as looks and personality do. It could be this self valuation is causing you to shoot to high into men that would only consider you for casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:32 PM
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My view isn't really about status or money mattering more than other things, its that the local area determines the relative value of each of the things you mentioned. The best looking dude in the trailer park is swimming in pussy. Sure, but if that dude goes to the city, he will get a major downgrade due to no status / wealth. The trailer park is the best factor for him because it allows him to dominate in looks. Same with the best looking, highest status man in Silicon Valley. So that's basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:27 PM
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are the ones hating on the Philippines, calling them uneducated. It's super ironic given in the USA philippines are some of the most educated and high earning groups. Filipina / Filipino nurses are everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:22 PM
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Somehow ignoring the fact that most people never even intend to leave the "foreign" country, because who could possibly not want to be in the USA? Exactly. Many guys who move to Thailand don't end up moving back, even after they get married and start a family. Sometimes you can get better education in international schools in other countries than in the USA. In high school (los angeles) i was really good at math, so i did this program where we used an online learning course from Singapore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:21 PM
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uh, what is dis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:17 PM
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You're saying that women having it worse when it comes to safety in dating is worse than men not being desired/wanted/having success with matches which might make sense from a moral perspective at first glance. Also important to point out often the men viewed as most attractive to women like athletes have the highest rates of domestic violence and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:08 PM
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No, "women won't have sex with me" is not equivalent to "men will rape/murder/sexually assault/otherwise harm me," both in severity and frequency. it is the equivalent if its voiced as comprehensive problem. I believe the comment you replied to is referring to femcels, not a specific woman talking about her safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:07 PM
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If a black guy lacks confidence or looks poor, he's probably not doing well. That makes sense. I have only had black friends in what is otherwise liberal, majroity non black areas, like around silicon valley. I would imagine that in black majority areas, you lose the effect of being unique. Most of the passport bros on youtube are black guys, so that also coincides
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:03 PM

What 20 or 30 year old has his own place, makes over 200k these days. Many in silicon valley , including myself. But here thats nothing special . Literally everyone has a tesla, nice house, etc. You need to be like a founder or exec to achieve what 200k would achieve in other parts of the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:30 PM
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Passport bros aren’t going to the Netherlands because they can’t afford it & their passport isn’t particularly attractive. The netherlands is somewhat less expensive than the USA. being 3-4 inches shorter is a major major blow to dating. Especially when the women are taller too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:08 PM
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Software Engineers are more desirable than Doctors in this day and age. I think engineers can have appeal within the developer community, for sure. But doctors have more wide spread appeal, in many audiences. Also the issue with tech hubs. Men don't have that much more income in their communities or work . While doctors always work with nurses that earn less. There's not really an equivalent of the doctor / nurse pairing in tech.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:04 PM
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I've completely changed my life around since my 20s, but I still only get interest from shitty women just like before What do you define as shitty ? But yea, i think self improvement has a cap where then your environment plays a bigger role. Thats why passport bros are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:37 PM
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we should encourage men wearing make-up. The average guy could become 2x prettier. make up, except in the case of acne scars, wont benefit men. men are judged for jaw line, height, muscles, etc,
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:35 PM
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As a Latino living in Dubai i can say this is sort of true. It really depends the what combination of cultures or nationalities you’re talking about. Do you think dubai is simply hard because everyone has so much money ? I have never been there, but to me from online, it seems like it would be very hard to do well there in dating because its so luxurious, like women flaunting so many gucci / hermes / LV bags.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:16 PM
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if an arab person is in north america and they’re a full on bearded, robe wearing devout muslim, it’ll turn people off - That's because devout islam is entirely conservative, its the polar opposite direction to attracting multiple women. I have muslim friends from Dubai that dress up to the nines with nice clothes, and a small beard , and do very well with white women in the USA, or other races too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:13 PM
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What's your height ? or are there any differences between you and your friend ? I have rarely noticed black men do poorly with women in the USA. I see most of the time black guys are very suave and charming with women in a spot on way. But I am white so cannot really speak for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:11 PM
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Yep, that's why guys from india, pakistan, or bangladesh slay in Europe. They have bad stereotypes and representation in media. Maybe that might change with Sunak in the UK. But black men have excellent stereotypes, and excellent representation in media.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:09 PM

Go home with the wrong guy and risk being dismembered. Thats a risk with any form of romantic relationship. The vast majority of homicides are men murdering their wives. Nothing exclusive to casual sex here. Too many dangerous people / selfish lovers / bad lovers / bad people etc Nothing exclusive to casual sex here, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:51 PM

casual sex for most women is a lot of risk for very little gain There is no risk in terms of safety for consensual, safe casual sex for women. Intelligent people can often see that the effort is not worth the juice, I think its a little more complex than that. Intelligent people like planned, methods and outcomes. Casual sex is often spontaneous, and unplanned, where you have to just experience the moment. Therefore, intelligent people view casual sex as a lot of work, while less intelligent peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:38 AM
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Who is forcing you to find these people attractive? Are you held against your will milked in order to impregnate fat women? This is a straw man. No one claimed they were forced to do anything. But people are certainly promoting obesity as healthy, the pic i linked states "this is healthy"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:30 PM

Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Illinois, etc. but no, I’m not interested in living in a state that thinks I shouldn’t have medical agency where my own body is concerned. Ok fair enough. the 90th percentile of income in las vegas is $84,000 https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Wealthy-Salary-in-Las-Vegas,NV
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:15 PM

Are the laws in Texas friendly to women, poor people, and gay people? What evidence is there that they aren't ? I think what you meant to say is $80k isn't enough to live in a California or New York. Which would be correct. But that's different than "worth" living in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:54 PM

that has a decent education system, things to do, career opportunities, no food deserts, decent politics that aren’t oppressive Alright, the 75th percentile of income is $80k in dallas texas. Is Dallas worth living ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:34 PM
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The man is settling. If we take a step back, a 6 foot tall woman with a butter face and strong feminist vibes doesn't have a wide appeal. Definitely won't be an appeal in areas of the world where men are shorter, or feminism isn't as strong as it is in Europe. Now, although the guy is large, he can change that, you cannot change height and a butter face. With his knowledge and paycheck, he would be attractive to a wide variety of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:33 PM
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for example, this guy's "before" pictures are 300 lbs / 5'9'', The page lists his height as 5'9" and 5'0", i think there's some confusion going on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:30 PM
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Maybe 350 was an overestimation from my side. 350 at 5'8" is enough for bariatric surgery. That's well over morbid obese category.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:29 PM

Yes, it is. Most couples are from the same country and speak the same language. Narrow it down until eventually the man is in the same vicinity of the same women often enough and he’ll try to fuck them. The passport bros movement is changing that . It's not just white people, tons of black men on youtube leaving the USA to find women abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:12 PM

$80k is not enough to support a family anywhere worth living. "worth living" ? What does that mean. $80k is a lot of money in some parts of the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:10 PM

> Lower class people have sex and marry all the time. > Upper class marry and have sex all the time. Nope. not for the upper class. There's actually an inverse correlation of intelligence and sexual habits: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3134531/ So what you are saying is contradicted by data. The smarter and more advanced one is intellectually, the less sex they are having.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:08 PM

Women like to promote other women, at least in western societies, no matter how heavy they are. I have seen women say Tess Holiday is gorgeous, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:24 PM
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Now, I do take some issue with calling it “healthy.” While it’s true that you can’t determine someone’s health by looking at them, and there’s a lot more to it than weight, after a certain point, obesity will negatively affect your health. Some people are very healthy and overweight, or technically “obese” because of their body type. But morbid obesity is called “morbid” for a reason. Right, agreed. That's why i only wanted to focus on morbid obesity, Tess Holiday level of obesity, because there…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:13 PM
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Nope. If you look at ones where they sell both mens and womens clothing like fashion nova, there's no mens plus size section.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:08 PM
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Do you believe I should live in complete misery until I'm thin? This isn't a CMV thread, so i hold no opinion here. But has this trend changed how you feel in your body ? Like assuming you are on a journey to lose weight, it seems like this trend hasn't convinced or changed how you feel at certain weights. Great job though on having the courage to lose weight / change your life though ! Always want to encourage people make such decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:29 PM
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It means that fat people exist and need to shop. If you aren't fat you don't have to look at what fat models are wearing. Why would they be in magazines or fashion stores previously that served healthy sized people ? Like by your logic, wouldn't it make sense for some stores to just specialize in plus size clothing ? People don't exist only to please you. ? People don't exist to please anyone, this statement makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:18 PM
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Disagree, dating apps work for men, if you put a lot of effort into the profile. The key thing is you need to be very controversial in it. You need edge. You need top notch photos. And you need an amazing tag line.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:15 PM
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Fat women have money. Marketing to them provides a previously untapped target audience. Now this is interesting. Have you seen data that shows this too ? Not doubting it, but I never thought of this angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:13 PM
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Why do you think every insult hurled towards men like incels etc is about them not getting sex I think we are mixing being shamed for holding incel view points vs being shamed for just being a virgin. Those two are not the same thing. The moment they speak women humiliate them Speak up about what ? What is a man speaking up to a woman about ? Again, seems like we are verging into incel arguments here. I thought this was only about a man saying he's a virgin and a woman shaming him for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:07 PM
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People are getting more obese. So companies that sell clothes are making more for the increased demand. It’s pretty much how markets work. But is there an increase in the last 10-12 years ? This is where i have noticed the most changes in the magazine and fashion industry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:02 PM
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Did you skip Econ 101 or something? No sir, but you haven't shown that obesity is increasing. One of the examples i cited is Abercrombie who reversed their marketing in only the last 10-12 years. So if you have seen data showing obesity increasing in the near past, i would be interested in learning / reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:02 PM
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