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But suppose.your.current partner wanted it would you still say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:55 AM
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I remember the redit post about a guy who found a old laptop with his wife in gangbangs His wife who barely had missionary sex with him. Half the comments were trying to convince him that it's ok and he was wrong fir going off on her I don't want to be that guy. No one wants to be that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:52 AM
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Point is they want your best too. No woman who knows you as a highrolling banker will come to you once you are burnt out. Then i expect a similar level of engagement in our lives (and sex lives) If she is not really interested in sex anymore inspite of me jumping through hoops I'll give her one year to deal with it herself. She can deal with it alone or with me but she needs to deal with it. I have only one life and i am not spending it with someone who drags me down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:36 AM
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But to chose not to dare them you must be aware of what is wrong. Or else you could easily excuse it with some dumb bs like " Well she is with me now and that's far more valuable than what she has done in the past"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:33 AM
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You don't see the possibility of them triggering anxiety in each other by their tics?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:01 PM
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Point is, is it wrong for men to feel agravation to be punished for dating a woman who is now inhibited as a rebound to her being carefree during her months of exploration? Is he an asshole to just leave? Are we monsters for warning eachother so that we can simply not deal with that bullshit? Women tell us our insecurities are not their problem. Isn't the same principle applicable now? Your hangups with sex is not our problem either
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:58 PM
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Point is, is it wrong for men to feel agravation to be punished for dating a woman who is now inhibited as a rebound to her being carefree during her months of exploration? Is he an asshole to just leave? Are we monsters for warning eachother so that we can simply not deal with that bullshit? Women tell us our insecurities are not their problem. Isn't the same principle applicable now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:57 PM
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I disagree. Most sex is vanilla. To say that they don't want vanilla sex is disingenuous. What men want is to be desired. I think women want that too. Maybe we look for it in tangible signs like how quickly she slept with us vs casual relationships etc, but at the end of the day the only thing that raises our hackles is being settled for. I think women here would agree that being in a marriage with a partner who doesn't want you is soul crushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:38 PM
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Wight knighting hard today. Make sure to pass by Jerusalem to help with the crusade.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:24 PM
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It helps me understand. It makes me understand that my feeling the way i do is not unjustified, and is the natural way to feel about it seeing as i don't know anything beyond that. It's not suprising if a caveman starts to worship you if you produce a lighter. It allows me to realise that the only way i can.be on with getting with a woman with a promiscuous past is if i had.a promiscuous.past. If i am able to in my mind see a clear difference.in.how i had sex with a hook up and a girl i had feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:20 PM
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You generalise to make data more understandable. I tried.to figure out why men have an issue with high n count women and women who were promiscuous. I wondered if there was any reason beyond jealousy and mysoginy and turns out there was. The gender inverse also exists with the same line of thinking. So i am.satisfied with my hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:13 PM
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You chose to a dick and ask wether or not i was writting out slam poetry. I responded in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:10 PM
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Do i have a bridge to sell to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:05 PM
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Good men don't have bad shit happen to them. If bad shit happens to men he must have deserved it somehow. He must be a bad man. Fuck bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:02 PM
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Yes it's totally worth it to get back together with her now that she has Checks notes ... Emotional maturity (one can hope) And .... A new reverse cowgirl position that she learned from one of the dude Bros she banged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:59 PM
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I wrote a blank verse poem. And yes it is my second language.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:45 PM
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Low n count women don't want high n count men either. Apparently they feel a certain 'ick' about it. Many of them post as much on this sub. Sure they don't go out and make songs about it. But at the end the difference is in the mentality of high vs low n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:44 PM
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How far the gulf between these thoughts - yours and mine. Mine languished by the chains of mortal experiences and struggles unable to see the beneficence of womanly favour. While your thoughts soar through the ether buoyed by your experiences of nirvana. For a womans true favour to a Man is when she says " let's unite 6 months hence" rather than "let's unite at once."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:22 PM
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That's not what i have written here at all. At the end of the day, our inability to understand why you do what you do is to be expected because of our lack of experience. It's like expecting a person from a community college in rural wisconsin to know how to code. Sure one.or two might. But for the most part, it's not in our skil set. And it certainly is not intentional. And i doubt women wi ever get kinder with this. If anything they will just attempt to hide their past and present a more tradi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:18 PM
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Fucking lol. He gets no play otherwise. Just tell him go and die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:16 PM
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But it makes no sense to us. To a person who has never had sex and considers it so important or to the person who only has sex within the confines of a relationship, we simply do not get casual sex. To us the quicky in the breakroom must involve the same amount of emotional investment as the gentle loving session with your fiance. And that's the gulf of thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:13 PM
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And it's our job as men no matter what we do to protect ourselves. Random rules nomatter how unfair to women can be employed to protect ourselves. If that means selecting based on obvious sexual attraction from her to me and discounting everyone who tries to wait then so be it. Because when the dead beadroom happen it will still be my fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:27 AM
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You are a woman. We wouldn't tell you. Now go back to the kitchen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:23 AM
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Born again virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:21 AM
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I think the fact that you don't get discouraged by this and i do shows a higher chance of you having sociopathic traits than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:19 AM
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So what is the guy she makes wait compared to that? Someone to manipulate into investing more into her emotionally so that she can maintain her emotional safety? That doesn't seem like love or lust but more like cold hard logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:40 AM
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Yeah. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:30 AM
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And that's how you go to dead bed room territory. "I love you babe but not in love with you"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:27 AM
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The fact that they suffered after blowing up her life? Probably
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:20 AM
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Everytime women discus the patriarchy it seems like a pan racial ku kluxclan of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:13 AM
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Mao was objectively worse than anyone.stalin was worse than Hitler. Both are responsible individually for more deaths than Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:07 AM
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On here where the men are not prone to feel sympathy for the women. Because to be completely honest, they have an antiwomen bias.. This doesn't happens in the rest of society
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:05 AM
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I'll just say this once man. You are way off the deep end.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:51 AM
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I don't think she would appreciate having being slept with like that. I wouldn't if i was her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:28 AM
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I don't. I have just hypothesised it.. But i won't believe it until i experience it. It's the difference between knowing that H2+O2 gives h2o in an exothermic reaction, and experiencing an explosion when you try to light a cloud of hydrogen and oxygen. I think women belive that they can fuck differently. But i dont know what that's like. And i can't empathise. Therefore i can't trust it. It just seems way to convenient. Besides to presume that casual sex and the kind of people you had casual sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:19 AM
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No that's self respect masquerading as insecurity. Plus a lack of flexibility of viewpoint. Like i said me and people like me who haven't hoed it up can't see sex as anything other than very emotionally charged and meaning full. Therefore If sex is meaningful ( which is why she waited) then why have it with the one night stand guy? If sex is unimportant (which is why she had it with the one night stand guy) then why not have it with us? It makes no sense unless you realise that you can fuck peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:07 AM
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Then stop insinuating that men who have trouble accepting high n counts or being waited for to have sex with vs a casual option are doing so because of a trivial insecurity. Oh and the "i am happily married to the man i love and expecting a baby" thing? very nice touch. Chefs kiss. Designed to make us feel like "maybe if we weren't such judgemental pricks we wouldn't be genetic dead ends" If only people were that simple. It just makes me think you are out of touch with the world in your bubble o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:58 AM
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You are an asshole if you force someone. If somone is a virgin and i know it i wouldn't count it as a demerit if she makes me wait for a year. Because losing your virginity is scary. And i would do my best to make it a good experience for her. If someone has had sex before and is making you wait for 6 months, there is no explaination short of sexual trauma and lack of attraction and i am not in board for either of those. The context the past gives is the potential libido she has. If she was prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:54 AM
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Lol. You are living the life a fraction of us can live, and with those experiences come things and changes in veiw points that you don't even realise. Men over here barely had one woman who slept with them. I have slept with none. I am 30. I have only traveled in one country. I will probably end up marrying somone in an arranged marriage. I believe in sex within a commited relationships and it being an expression of love. Perhaps if i had been able to slut it up maybe i would be able to seperate…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:46 AM
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If she was attracted enough to him she would break her rules for him. And maybe that's a bit harsh but being in a relationship where you are sexually wanted is very different from being in a relationship where you are sexually tolerated and by OPs description he is being tolerated And my point is without the context of the past he assumed that's the most passion she can muster at any time.abd if that was her best he was fine with it. However knowing her past or a part of it he realised that what…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:41 AM
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So pursue the guys who inspire those feelings in you Leave the others alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:37 AM
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So why is she not horny for the guy she likes? Logic dictates that she should be rearing to go? Husband material is considered to be shit teir categorisation for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:31 AM
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You legitimately scare me. It scares me that i want to message you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:41 PM
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That's you. (I sincerely doubt that) Much of woman kind would not be so forgiving and call me incel and men's rights activist abd tell her to break up with me. Because they will assume that i will not ever support her and may be my lack of support is because i see her as beneath me and or because i amworried she will use me for my money. Meanwhile i am over here building a life together with equal contribution from both me and her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:19 PM
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And yet statistics find lesbian relationship more prone to violence and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:14 PM
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I assume you made them feel sexually and emotionally wanted? It's curious you read only that and ignored the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:08 PM
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Re : past gives context to present. I mean i can decide to go 50:50 on everything and still have my gf pissed off at me because she found out I payed rent for a past gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:07 PM
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Well then they will have a long discussion now and figure it out. I amrooting for him to leave though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:07 PM
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If she was attracted enough to him she would break her rules for him. And maybe that's a bit harsh but being in a relationship where you are sexually wanted is very different from being in a relationship where you are sexually tolerated and by OPs description he is being tolerated And my point is without the context of the past he assumed that's the most passion she can muster at any time.abd if that was her best he was fine with it. However knowing her past or a part of it he realised that what…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:00 PM
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She is making rules for the both of them knowing the full context of her decision. No people are not required to push their own boundaries for their partners but a healthy relationship requires you giving a minimum fuck about the other persons wants or needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:56 PM
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Oh no.its not malicious. It's ass fucking backwards. It's simple,don't get into a relationship with someone with whom your attraction is an if-then-else statement
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:55 PM
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Projecting what? That at best she doesn't want to have wild sex with him or that at worst she is not attracted to him on the same level as she is attracted to the threesome guy? Cause remember even the women over here say that they will break their rules for the guys they find attractive. Is it so outlandish to belive that her boyfriend wants to be the guy she breaks rules for? Fucking lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:54 PM
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Sure but she needs to communicate that. Otherwise you don't know. And when you find out you are still the asshole for breaking up because 'her past doesn't matter' Fuck that. The past provides context for the present. A woman not wanting to have sex with you because she has low libido is not the same as a woman who was raped and is now afraid of sex. One is fine the way she is abd the other needs therapy. Here that past provides context on what's healthy for her. Fir him to decide wether or not …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:43 PM
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The supposed change in libido. The fact that maybe she has matured and prefers a more conservative sexual activity. Maybe he needs to be willing to sacrifice all his unexplored fantasies because sh has decided for their relationship that missionary is the only way, and only he gets to decide if he is ok with that. The thing is,if she has not had a checkered past and she asks this of him,he is more likely to be ok with it. If she has then it's basically like she got to have her fun and fuck him f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:42 PM
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Because she is making the desicions about sex for both of them in the relationship. Maybe he wants to experiment. Maybe he wants to be pegged , maybe he wants to be humiliated. Sexual curiosy and interest is a big deal in a relationship. If she has had a past and is so set in her preferences that she can't be arsed to indulge , or even worse has trauma that makes it impossible to indulge then that needs to be communicated. I don't have a dominant bone in my body, but if my girl wants to be choke…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:38 PM
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You are an asshole if you force someone. If somone is a virgin and i know it i wouldn't count it as a demerit if she makes me wait for a year. Because losing your virginity is scary. And i would do my best to make it a good experience for her. If someone has had sex before and is making you wait for 6 months, there is no explaination short of sexual trauma and lack of attraction and i am not in board for either of those. The context the past gives is the potential libido she has. If she was prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:27 PM
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I mean just be consistent. They way it will shake out is that promiscuous women will end up with promiscuous men. Some non promiscuous men will be able to accept the mindfuck and stay with a promiscuous woman. Non promiscuous men get together with non promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:24 PM
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You are an asshole if you force someone. If somone is a virgin and i know it i wouldn't count it as a demerit if she makes me wait for a year. Because losing your virginity is scary. And i would do my best to make it a good experience for her. If someone has had sex before and is making you wait for 6 months, there is no explaination short of sexual trauma and lack of attraction and i am not in board for either of those. The context the past gives is the potential libido she has. If she was prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:22 PM
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So it is the same right. We don't have to say jack shit. Say the bare minimum, allow them to imagine whatever they want as long as they don't verbalise it. If sex happens,great. If she gets clingy? Block and onto the next .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:49 PM
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Incest should be no problem then no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:38 PM
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There maybe. But feminism nor bluepill stans try to make it more appealing. Macabre storytelling made a great video 2 hrs long on the crisis of men ( he is actually a neutral content creator) and there he reference this point. He pointed out that there are a lot of feminist and bluepill creators who make a lot of videos about the redpill and all of its pitfalls and fallacies. But when it comes to any actionable advice that men can pursue as an alternative to redpill there is a resounding silence…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 09:45 AM
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See i actually agree with you. But i can accept prudish,if that's the best she can offer because i want her best. To me the woman you described and the woman who had her college fun but has now toned it all down are the same, they are not giving me everything like i am giving them everything. I would give up my left nut fir their happiness but i expect the reciprocity, other wise i am a chump. Is it extreme yes. Is it an insane ask? Yes. The only reason it is fair is that i am offering the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:33 AM
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There is literally no alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:27 AM
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It's seen as unmanly. Manhood is something that society provides as an aspirational quality yet takes it away when men fail somehow. They are defective men Ie incels, virgins, low wage employment, homeless etc. And yes to a good chunk of women crying is a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:05 AM
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Homely nerdy girls are my thing. But they are too shy and i am risk averse
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:57 AM
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Can't argue with that. That is a legitimate worry i have. My only saving grace is a reasonable amount of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:55 AM
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I have had girls come and ask me where the condom goes and about their periods so I'll take this comment with a spoonful of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:51 AM
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This assumes that all the men here are just terrible. That the guys who self identity as incels because they are virgins are infact just terrible people. You can understand why that's not a popular take?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:42 AM
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I think his post is more of a comment on women who just randomly go around claiming that a guy complaining about being alone or being a virgin is one because he is at heart a bad person. Which is ridiculously invalidating. But the women in question justify that response by claiming some kind of womans intuition that makes them avoid these guys. In that case, why would any of them feel any sympathy for women complaining about abusive men? "What? The radar got jammed? Idgaf" would be and should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:41 AM
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I don't know. It could also be a deseased sheep whichthe other sheep stay away from for fear of contagion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:37 AM
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We recognise the need for harmony. You maynhate a person but have to work with him. That influences some men to see their relationship with each other seperate from their acts within relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:46 AM
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The all important confidence. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:16 AM
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Are you a dude ? cause if you are this is embarassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:15 AM
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I won't disagree with that. But i think i can blame others and society for misleading me. And for making it ok to treat me worse because i was a little weird. Personality no matter how.great it is doesn't beat out attractiveness. And lack of sucess can warp your personality. I mean if all i have had are failures and bad outcomes from good intentions it's psycopathic on my part if i could persevere. Being who i am as i am considering what happened is ... The most normal thing ever. I don't need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:42 AM
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Yeah yeah. Thing is once you accept it, you feel at peace. I just do things for myself now, not worrying about what my.future gf or wife would think. Tatoo? Don't mind if i do Cigarettes ? Yes Alcohol? Single malt aged 12 years baby. The rage was a bitch to get through. 4 months of pure fear, despondency and depression. Lots of self loathing. But now. I feel so much better. I even began to think about the future now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:34 AM
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Well they do. It's all so manufactured, so easy. And if it feels too real well that just depresses me. Much rather make others miserable than be miserable you know. (Complete 180 from what i was.like)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:26 AM
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I mean it's not all i do. I go around looking at my patients. Figuring out how things went wrong and how can I fix it. Then i learn about it in a text book. Then i watch movies about wars and death and drugs. Love stories trigger me now. Sure. I don't have friends. But i have a purpose. And in between when i have the time i go "this will show those uppity women!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:15 AM
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No. But it warms the cockles of my cold dead heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:10 AM
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So why tell us this. Why tell us that we need to stop bad men when the decision is in your hands anyway? We just hope to hell that we find someone who can give a minimum shit about us and you have people throwing themselves at you. So why should we care? Even if we do, what can we do?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:51 AM
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Yeah but you don't give nice guy chances in general no? Isn't that what nice guys complaint.about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:49 AM
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Guess what happened when I tried saying something to a friend when she was going out with someone inknew was a rapist. She knew i was a virgin never been in a relationship and she thought i was making a move on her. She and the rapist together exiled me from the college friend group. Learned my lesson. Only sucessfully well adjusted men can give advise or help. Scum.like me? We are worse than rapists for being virgins. So, no. I won't help anyone. Life is too short for all of your bullshit. Help…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:47 AM
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It might be that we heard " i wish I was with a guy like you" and "you will make some girl happy sone day" It grates on you after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:38 AM
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But you just know when a guy is a good guy right? That's why incels exist. They are so mysoginistic and suck terrible individuals that you can sense it on a psychic level and hence avoid us. Atleast that's what you tell us. You can't tell us this and not expect us to ask "how did you end up with the guy who hurt you?'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:19 AM
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I thought women were able to sniff.out bad men. After all that's the justification given right? As the reason we don't get dates, and remain alone and miserable? That somehow, they can sense the desperation and the mysoginy in us ? So what? They go blind? Their scanners get jammed? Oh bohoo the antena doesn't work so well does it? So maybe your assement of the reason why jncels are incels is flawed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:14 AM
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Please. You don't care. You probably have a shirt that goes i drink men's tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:55 PM
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Women just seem terrible.in general to be honest. I mean you don't really make your intentions Clea and allow us to take all the risk. And in romantic and platonic realtionships half of you punish emotional vulnerability. I have friends (guys) who would literally bail on a date or sexytime with their women to help me if i needed it. I don't see that level of reciprocation in any of the women i am friends with. You can't expect me to respect that. All that effort for not even reciprocation of fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:52 PM
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That goes bothways
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:21 PM
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Just don't Gaslight us into beliveing it's all our fault and that we aren't trying hard enough. And dont Gaslight us into beliveing that our personality matters more than our appearance. "That's tough buddy" means more than you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 11:06 AM
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Don't want a traditional woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 06:26 AM
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Ok let me explain. So when women are young they can hit up who ever they want and have sex with them. But the hotties don't commit. Mean while the average guys dontnger much play and instead grind of they have that capacity. Now these women hit late 20s and early 30s and realise they want marriage and kids and all that abd now having slept with the hoties realise that, other qualities like financial security ambition and general kindness of charecter us more important. They need somone who will …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 06:21 AM
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So what should we do instead. Resign ourselves to misery of never achieving the level of attractiveness? Of never being valued like that? You do realise that most above average women in the west get treated like a middle Easter warlord with 50 kills under his belt. I wanna experience that too. Even if i have to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 06:13 AM
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Women feel entitled to a worthy man which is why all those opinion peices came out boo hoping about how there weren't enough college graduate men fir women nowadays. God forbid they have to slum it with the blue collared ones. And you collectively have the gall to say, that hypergamy isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 06:02 AM
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Like i said. It's a method to regain control. Sometimes. Like if he constantly feels threatened by the possibility of you going to another man, and voila, he is no longer threatened. Same for me. Being a sub is no longer essential. Would i live to try it? Sure. But it's not something i must have now. And i dont have any problem with going for a girl who is intimidating anymore. So in a weird way, my submission kink made me more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:34 PM
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Like i said. It's a method to regain control. Sometimes. Like if he constantly feels threatened by the possibility of you going to another man, and voila, he is no longer threatened. Same for me. Being a sub is no longer essential. Would i live to try it? Sure. But it's not something i must have now. And i dont have any problem with going for a girl who is intimidating anymore. So in a weird way, my submission kink made me more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:34 PM
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How does this make it better?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:28 PM
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I predict that after marriage the situation will remain the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:21 PM
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Yes, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:20 PM
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Where does that say that i think women are not that attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:16 PM
0

Like i said. Sure as fuck don't need a misandrists seal of approval. Give a misandrist an inch and you will take a mile. They don't deserve a reasonable debate nor any consideration. Infact the day you agree with anything i say is the day i know i am wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:14 PM
1

When did I do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:12 PM
0

First of all this response is ridiculous. Where is the mysoginy here? Wtf? Is that your go to? See something you can't respond to and just go Mysoginy? Is that how your brain works? How limited can someone be? I would have loled if it wasn't so sad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:03 PM
1

Don't be obtuse. You claim that the hvm are exploiting these women, I am asking wether or not these women are trying to use him too. Do you honestly belive it's puppy love from their side?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:52 PM
0

Saying to women "Fuck all you all" would be misogyny. What I am engaging in is exactly what you are engaging in. If you can accept that as misandry then I will cop to misogyny. But you won't so i won't This is my world view. Deeply embittered with no idea how to fix it. Constantly on the look out for people to help and constantly in fear of being exploited. I can't trust anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:49 PM
0

Maybe that's more on the people you associate with?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:44 PM
1

And the women sleeping with him are expecting nothing? Is that what you are saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:44 PM
2

Regardless there will be enough people willing to date women unless there is something truly wrong with them. Vettimg and searching is a much better problem to have versus the radio silence on my end. Plus the ... What is the bigphrase you said? Gender normative structure of heterosexual dating posits me as a ... An anomaly. A 30 year old Virgin dude is also gonna be seen as a red flag. So it's not all roses for me either. I'll have to lie through my teeth and say that I was looking for somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:43 PM
2

You can get away with thinking that as a woman. There is a higher chance that a relationship can just happen. Men don't have that luxury and have to atleast think in terms of "what would make me more attractive ?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:28 PM
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Nightmares maybe. I think people who fear this, sublimate their fear into a sexual preference in a subconscious way to reclaim it. Much like rape and assault survivors for consensual non consent. Personaly my earlier low self-esteem saw me indulge in femdom fantasies as the only way I could deserve to have sex - probably. I don't think that's something to be made fun off
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:23 PM
1

As a man i havent seen anyone get sex regularly for women he considers attractive unless he is extremely successful and charismatic. He is not successful because he is getting laid. He gets laid because he is successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:45 AM
2

Oh we understand emotional labour. And a good majority of us in relationships complain that women suck at being there for us. That's our emotional labour having to be the rock all the time. Women don't know what they don't know
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:07 AM
1

By that logic most women would be fine with a virgin. Oh happy happy day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:04 AM
1

We dint want it. But it seems like how it will.go. I predict a future where women will see men as liabilities and just chose to fuck the most attractive guy they can find to have the best possible child and they will single mom their way through life. It will be back to the medevial times where only the top 50% reproduce where the top 20 % will have more than one baby mama. Vasectomies are gonna be more common too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:03 AM
0

Stay with him in the good years and divorce him when he gets dementia. After all it's about how you benifit right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:56 AM
0

Oh please "Good guys don't complain about dating Nice guys complaint about it. Fuck nice guys." So what constitutes a good guy in your opinion? giving to charity ? I do that not engaging in casual mysoginy? I do that too standing up to assholes for how they treat women? Yeah i have done that too. I called out a fucking rapist. I was booted from 2 friendgroups in college because of it. Lost my social circle was labelled a creep. Didn't help my chances at all help people without expectation of rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:54 AM
1

Yeah. Honestly yeah. But we dont lie about the necessity of baseline attraction. Fortunately we have a low threshold fir what we consider attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:49 AM
1

While most of us have problems getting a woman to notice us to begin with. So please don't tell us it's day out side when we can see the moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:47 AM
1

I would say that hard work is a requirement but not sufficient for success. A large part of it is luck. I have seen very few calculated successes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:46 AM
2

I know right? Like they seem to think that we don't see through the bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:44 AM
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Oh please. A large number of you beat us down with a stick saying being nice is the bare minimum. Rich and handsome is the pre-qualification for personality to matter. Women think * how does he add to my life,"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:43 AM
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A man who can have sex every night without problems with women he finds attractive has a lot going fir him to qualify him to that level. He is not a successful man because he gets laid. He gets laid because if his level of sucess. Human doings and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:41 AM
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You would think that is the case. Sadly not . And it is dangerous to push that narative because is some idiot guy believes it like i did, it would cost him years of his dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:39 AM
1

It's not the having sex part. It's simply what that signifies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:38 AM
11

Not dating just sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:45 PM
1

It's difficult to differentiate between them and the women.who are settling for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:28 PM
2

It gave them value by giving them options
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:06 AM
0

On some level you ha e to prioritise yourself over them. You can't be too available. You can't be completely nice. That's the artifice. You hand out good vibes for free, and then it has no value. Make it reciprocal and it begets value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:06 PM
1

I can. But honestly it seems like the kind of stuff you can plan against.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:53 PM
1

Lots of possitives to younger women. Less jaded for one..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:52 PM
1

Yea H. But he can chose between a person his age and a younger woman it seems he is more inclined to go for a younger woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:41 PM
1

Human female preferably.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:23 PM
0

Idk. Maybe we would adapt to sucking their dicks to keep them happy. Gotta get that protein somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:22 PM
1

That actually sounds nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:20 PM
1

For most women looks get you past the line of acceptable in a relationship. And the bar is not that high. After that it about who they are. ( Or more accurately how they make you feel - it's a selfish instinct) For men it's that and their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:19 PM
1

Using a feminist comedians quote at the end was a nice touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:16 PM
1

I think the point is choice. They would habe chosen to be parents but can't so yeah it's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:13 PM
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It's not just you is it. It's every single person who came before you and will come after you. Without ever having sucess its looking at a life in lonliness. So understand when i say that the anger is impersonal, because to us you are rejecting our worth as human beings. Saying that your rejection.is not personal doesnt change that in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:11 PM
0

I don't know what issues they really face but no i do not sympathise with their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:04 PM
1

I don't think that it allows them to grow really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:52 PM
2

I was. But i learnt that in any interaction when you think about the other persons benifit, thre are 2 people thinking about their benifit and no one about yours. I care about myself. That means i have to value myself over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:39 PM
2

Your behaviour is so ironic it's hard to believe that you are not a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:37 PM
2

Oh we are. Women make sure to remind us of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:30 PM
1

He is simply taking the best deal he can now. Don't knock it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:28 PM
1

He has had relationships. ( An autist with more relationship experience than me .... Demoralising as fuck) Evidently he has options. As far as i see it he is attractive enough to get into a relationship. The relationship gets fucked in terms of maintainance which is where his autism probably has a role to play. This man sat down and write down a thoughtful response to the question in a respectful manner. What threated you so much that you felt the need to tear him down? What kind of insecure thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:26 PM
1

Just saw Garnt and Sydney get married in the last month. That's the perfect relationship right? Queen of degeneracy marrying an Anime degenerate. I don't think i have anyone in my own age group who shares my interests. I would settle for someone who is just kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:16 PM
1

That's the dream isn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:14 PM
2

So we will age together. At ever age she would be 5 years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:02 PM
3

As opposed to how replaceable men are at every age? Tough shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:56 PM
2

It makes for interesting times. In my nihilism i sometimes wish for a war, so that i could feel useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:55 PM
3

This is the most blue pilled thing I have seen here and exactly the thing i rail against. How would you know? How the hell would you know if she has actually changed? With zero relationship experience how would you distinguish between women who changed and the ones who want you to cushion their fall?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:50 PM
1

So the ones who are not experienced are in the clear if they go for someone 10 years younger? Morally speaking?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:46 PM
0

Love this response. Succinct and understandable. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:44 PM
2

He didn't. He just pointed out a fallacy. I mean you could argue that sex with grandma's is way better because if you are good enough they might add you to the will. It's just what you want to do if you want to do it. However in OPs case i understand the fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:42 PM
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I guess you could vet. Single moms are out. Women with poor career prospects are out. The ones who peaked in highschool are out. The ones with a history of dating tall ripped dudes are out Any one who even utters the sentence " i didn't know what i wanted back then - i have matured Now". - out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:39 PM
1

You would think. There is also the age concious group who aspire to a marriage by their 30s and begin to feel late. It's all about validation after all. It's a cliche that women imagine their wedding day and not really put as much energy into imagining their married life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:37 PM
3

The phenomenon where nerds who got no action in their 20s begin to get play when they get into some serious jobs. Source : nerd who became a surgeon
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:35 PM
3

Beyond wether or not she is self sufficient, the only thing I care about is if she loves me and wether she is kind to me. Beyond that i dont care. I would be proud of her even if she garbled Adele's "hello" on karoke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:33 PM
3

That's why you vet. You vet hard. And a non negotiable long dating period.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:28 PM
0

25 is fine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:27 PM
2

That's a no from me dawg
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:25 PM
1

It can feel cathartic. It's much better when it's the same girl who did the rejecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:24 PM
3

Whatever you need to tell yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:23 PM
1

I would much rather be liked for who i am. But thats not my reality. So it's beta buxing for me i guess. I'll just have to vet really hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:19 PM
2

I don't know. I missed sleeping around in my 20s. I would probably pay a few 20 year old escorts, provided i could find them ethically Not interested in a relationship with them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:18 PM
1

So basically it's better to be wanted for what you can provide in a relationship than any kind of charecter or personality or what makes you , you. That got old the second i considered it. Much rather die alone, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:07 PM
1

I think it's just black pill thinking convincing them that with the ever increasing list of demands pretty soon every man except the 10% will not be worth associating with. Society would probably revert to a Seychelles model with families of women who men can marry into or simply impregnate and leave. Once women accept that being alone is better than being with the average man they would decide to cooperatively raise their children. And if men are only needed for babies, then why settle fir the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:04 PM
0

That body count doesn't matter. It does. If the shoe was on the other foot she wouldn't want to be with a manwhore too. And most of the time it is insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:59 AM
2

There are gradations right. Like losing your limb is pretty bad but losing your life is much worse. So when you say things like loss of jobs becoming unhireable and basically having your life trashed, usually it doesn't happen like that. Doesn't mean it doesn't affect your life significantly. Loss of social support us a pretty big deal for guys. And occurence during a tenuous time like college can really fuck up your life trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:22 PM
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Yeah. I agree. She saw value in you when no one did. Barring psychological issues and her legitimately being dead weight, you should atleast keep faith with the one who had faith in you. Scumbag move man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:13 PM
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It's not that extreme most of the time, the accusations are done without legal interfere abd as an attempt to charecter assainate. Had it happen to me, which explains a lot about my world veiw. No lasting damage on account of my efforts to be morally true to my core, but it really shook me up when my friends sided with her. Nothing happened to her ofcourse, lots of casual sex, graduated a fashion school, runs an Instagram account and a design company, got married to a hot guy. Probably richer th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:07 PM
0

You are ignoring history too. For most of human history majority of men didn't have any rights either. This entire concept of freedom and personal sovereignty came about much later and even then men had to purchase it under the condition that they would bear arms when called upon. Women got the right to vote withing 5 decades of that, without even the requirement of similar service. In your fight for equality you forget the presence and the efforts of men who championed your cause. 'Your cause' …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:15 PM
1

Probably not the poorest but more like most represented demographically in poor households.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:17 PM
1

I think poverty is probably high for 1st generation immigrants and they probably contribute to the large numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:16 PM
1

That just blew my mind. That is state sanctioned progom isn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:13 PM
1

That makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:11 PM
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Because at the end of the day all the ills of the world is men's fault. Womens pay gap - men's fault. Womens safety ,- men's fault and responsibility. Single motherhood - because men are deadbeats. Women choosing single motherhood? - men's fault for not being good enough to marry. Women in upper middle class not having enough college educated men to marry - men willfully avoiding college and punishing women by their absence. Everything that is wrong in your life is because men 'collectively/ all…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:11 PM
2

All the advice that's bullshit for guys can help you though. Pursue self-worth, improve yourself, join hoby groups where people can interact with who you are rather than what you look like. On the other hand avoid oneitis. As a side, increasing your level of fitness is always attractive and can help your prospects. And as a personal recommendation - pursue the level of success that you would want from your partner, having fuck you money is superior to marrying someone with fuck you money. Plus i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:33 PM
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I will agree with this. Add to that an introverted personality and a slightly warped world veiw and you end up with the average 30 year old virgin. Increase the degree of warping and you get incels. The scary thing is a warped personality will warp further in isolation and confirmation bias. It requires you to touch grass to stall it, and positive interaction with people to reverse it. A lot of incels inflict their pain on themselves, however a significant number do go through life events that g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:26 PM
1

I don't. I thought about it once. Reasoned out to myself why women's general fear of their rights being taken away is legitimate and no longer feel exasperation when i encounter it. ( On here or in real life ) Everything else is just extrapolation from the base argument. I wouldn't have thought about it if i didn't see the comment chain. And while some are posting here taking particular glee in this eventuality, i see it as a grim possibility. I am normally pretty anxious so this is just an exte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:56 PM
1

I didn't think it was possible to make a strawman of me but you have succeeded. I am not wishing for the end of the world, i just kind off predict it. I don't think it will be a fun time for anyone. And reading comprehension is important. I said that i was not making an argument for the meek will inherit the earth. Just the opposite. The incels and nerds who couldn't cut it in our world will not survive in that scenario. The ones left behind will be the ones who have the strength to rape and pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:27 PM
1

I know all of that. I am not making an argument for the meek will inherit the earth. I am just saying that in a situation where softness can not be coddled and nerds simply can't exist like they used to what makes you think women are gonna enjoy the kind of freedoms they do today? Far more likely you are gonna have less options. Far more likely that women will suffer all kinds of shit. The entire coercion being rape will go out of the window ( because lets be real there wont be sex without a pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:10 AM
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I am not saying right now. Give it a few decades. If things don't change the right way, if something happens which threatens everyone's futures ( economic colapse) this version of events will be all the more likely. It's not a revenge fantasy so much as a prediction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:33 AM
2

Ofcourse. I would love to see a woman with the same sense of responsibility, honour and fairness as men. Oh you meant sexually - same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:14 AM
1

That's bullshit. And even if it was true it means nothing with respect to what we need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:11 AM
1

In my case all that makes me do is vet harder. High n counts - nope. High school mean girls - nope. College hoe phase - nope. Basically has a history of dating jocks - nope. Single moms - nope. If i dont find someone, i can be alone. I have managed for 30 years, i can manage for 30 more. My job is such that my life will not be a waste. Either that or i have a hoe phase myself and i am able to understand what it means when "you mature" and have "changed" and want something more "serious" now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:07 AM
2

Is it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:04 AM
3

They would just be less willing to help other families. Thats when shit hits the fan. When neighborly love dies. It's already dead in cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:00 AM
4

Easier to share love when it's free flowing, much harder to do so when you have to claw and struggle to get wants yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:43 AM
5

Do you know who the hot girls like? Jocks. Do you know who the nerdy girl with bangs and glasses like? Jocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:05 PM
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You say it like as if it's their choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:03 PM
5

I don't think that's the take away. Intelligent people tend to habe a much more active inner monologue that goes along the line of negativity and not making a fool of yourself or comming off as a creep. I actually feel those voices die when i drink, in the process i become a lot more fun. There is a reason why PUAs first and only usable step is just going out and talking to women. You just try to get comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:01 PM
2

Seems like an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:05 PM
4

You are describing an actual phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:01 PM
6

Debatable. That's you I have had feminist friends sleep with an open chauvanist. And they tried to justify it to me when i called them out on it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:58 PM
1

That would actually be a plus for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:34 AM
1

Not true. I am sure olypian and MMA fighter women have a relatively easy time looking fir relationships. Any incompatibility will be due to lack of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:27 AM
3

Preferences are generally visual. The attraction you may or may not get from setting your eyes on someone. You can't judge someone as an asshole for that. That attraction being altered by facts found after - eg she is just a really fair presenting black person, this guy had sucked dick, this guy is rich - is a value judgement. And you can be an asshole for your value judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:05 AM
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That does seem to be the logical conclusion you can come to reading all the comments in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:01 AM
13

I think their preferences is rooted in homophobia. If a man was to say they wouldnt date black women because he doesn't find them as attractive and feminine as other women, would he not be atleast racist adjacent? And say a guy is heterosexual but loved to be pegged. What then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:56 AM
2

So basically it is Mens fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:54 AM
6

I am not gonna be the greater fool again
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:50 AM
4

I call AFBB the Sheryl sandberg plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:49 AM
4

So you basically admit to being the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:37 AM
4

Women are distinctly homophobic. They are risk averse and fear competition. Which is why they feel more secure in a relationship with a man who they perceive as having lesser options. This is the core of why they tend to avoid Bi men. While women won't mock you they will select against you when you display non gender conformist behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:37 AM
4

Damn. Look at him breeding a killer instinct into a 11 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:05 PM
1

Personally i am tiered of the constant cosmic treadmill of self improvement. I am a reasonable guy who has a decent job. I have as much social contact as i want. I don't need to change or improve myself. I might learn a new language to occupy myself. If all of my efforts don't lead to getting a woman i can survive on porn. Porn which further makes me unsuitable to women because of ED. But i see no point in trying to keep myself functional if i cant find someone to be functional for. It's like ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:26 PM
1

You need to spend time in 2x
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:45 AM
1

They don't kick down per say but the helping hand is conspicuously absent
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:43 AM
4

That doesn't sound like a happy out come and doesn't bear out with what i have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:40 AM
14

Lady, inspite of the rampant homophobia in my country i would rather be gay than deal with my life as it is right now and that should tell you something
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:39 AM
1

You can't even conceive of our reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:36 AM
1

Exposure. You have more chances. You go on more dates. You are likely to find one out of 20 you are compatible with. Hell you could be a total bitch in one relationship and it wouldn't impact your ability to find someone new. Compare that to me who has not got a single date, my chances of finding someone is zero. So i am sorry but i have no sympathy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:32 AM
0

Sure it is. Effort begets effort. Kindness begets kindness. Maybe those women you mentioned were not romantic to begin with ? The best real life romances i heard had effort from both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:30 AM
9

That's what dating is for right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:24 AM
3

No. Maybe initially so that i can get over my insecurity if being unattractive but the goal was always to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:17 AM
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I don't fall under the typical standards of manhood. The only thing that seems manly to me that i can do is that i am calm in a crisis. Doesn't mean i make good decisions. It just means that i am laidback enough to see another angle that mitigates the risk. I am not looking for somone who listens and follows me, i am looking for somone who will stand by my side. I want someone who has her shit together has a good job and wants to contribute to a life together equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:16 AM
9

The weird thing is so en seem to want the same,ignoring the fact that traditional gender roles were pretty shit to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:08 AM
2

I don't like him. But he makes some good points. The one where he was talking with a woman in term of what she provides to the relationship she talks about how she would only go for high value men. And then starts talking about how men deserve rest days and mental health days. He probed a bit further and said that the men you pick are the ones who disregard their mental health and comitted to the grind to get what they have. They can't afford to take days off because they need to grind to acheiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:23 PM
1

Lvw is apt
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:29 PM
2

I would accept with thanks and a peck on her pecker. Least gay way to suck dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:15 PM
1

We become meat sheilds Every shootout has stories of men sheilding their girlfriends and wives and dying. Socially programed lifeboats. It's sad as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:11 PM
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True. But it has reached near failed state status due to the presence of the innumerable cartels( nearly a parallel government) where men, (good bad it doesnt matter ) are incentivised to perpetrate deplorable acts. These men perpetrate a high amount of crimes on women to the point that the stats on DV, rape, murder of women approach the equivalents of warzones. These women police stations are a necessity, not something done as a matter of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:04 PM
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Afghanistan as a country has out social barriers in place to make it difficult for women to pursue education, ever since the Taliban took over. Taliban is Afghanistan now. https://youtu.be/iIFi_Rgm-T8
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:54 PM
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I have come to the conclusion that they don't. They live blessed lives in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:59 PM
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It's not about keeping society going it's about maintaing safety I do not dispute that women support the economy too. That's an insane argument to make. But a womans ability to go to work and come back home..her ability to do the job with the the facilities they have ( internet housing water ) depends on incentivising men to maintain those things. Afghanistan is a great case in point. Brazil and philipines too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:56 PM
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It's not. The situation in Afghanistan is pretty much text book. In a wartorn country the person with the biggest gun is the law. And in Afghanistan men are socialized to uphold their old archaic laws that strip freedom from women and keeps it with cabals if old men wearing the guise of religious leaders. The men are incentivised to continue the opression of women with wealth power and continued respect and immunity from the law. Afghanistan probably has the greatest human rights violation being…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:49 PM
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Agreed. Holyshit if a woman did that, i would walk to the ends of earth for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:21 PM
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Violence happens all around us on a near constant basis. You think we are imagining things?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:20 PM
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What is the situation. Suppose she is talking mad shit to some The rock looking mofo beliveing that we are gonna back her up? Is it our responsibility to get into a fight when she instigated it too. Fuck that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:18 PM
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Apex fallacy. You see some men do crap shit. And you attribute it to all men. Here is a thought. All the safety you enjoy at this moment is because there are men out there doing the right thing far in excess of men doing the wrong thing. These men are not good by default, they are incentivised to be good. ( As in all of them have varying degrees of moral character because they are not a monolith but they do the right thing because other men created incentive structures socially and economically …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:16 PM
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Women's continued freedom depends on all kinds of men good and bad, doing the right thing. Good actions have to be incentiviced economically or socially, so that men consistently do those actions. Take that away and women's protection and freedoms disappear too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:11 PM
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So basically the argument is it's always been this way. That's not an argument women will accept for.anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:08 PM
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Yeah dude Call 911. It's 3 men, i am not that strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:07 PM
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I am gonna say this as clearly as possible. I am not your meat sheild. I resent being classified as one. Society has socialised us to belive self sacrifice is the highest ideal, that dying for your loved one or your country is the greatest way to fulfill the masculine ideal. We teach our boys to detach from emotions, and to be willing to go battle mode at a moments notice. We teach them to deny their humanity and the humanity of others so that they can act as the enforcers of society. It's bulls…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:00 PM
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Words are wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:10 AM
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If women judge me on that standard, then i see no reason to not judge them the same way. I am by no means a traditional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:46 AM
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Highly recommend reading about adoption trauma and actually reading some of the negative perspectives of adoptees because this idea of "I'd be saving them/helping them" is a white knight savior complex. Adoptees are not homeless peolle you gave a sandwich too, you're not saving them and they shouldn't be grateful to you. You should t see it as you helping somebody less fortunate lol, the fuck? But it is effectively that. I am in a position to do good. I seeni reason to not do it. I don't charect…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:21 AM
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Good for you. I don't. It's painstaking, it abused my mental health. It made me feel like i don't matter at all. I mean i know that but it's a different thing to feel it. And in my swath of inexperience people tell me the best thing i can do is find one girl and just settle with her. But i can't have standards on her past and i can't feel jealous of her experiences, because reasons. Fuck that. I stoped trying a year ago. My mental health thanks me for it. I have abused myself into accepting sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:55 AM
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I guess in my case the biggest nightmare is to inadvertently marry a high n count woman who choses to be a prude with me. There is no ra rationalization that can make me thing that she actually loves me, and is not using somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:19 AM
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Seems like you took that personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:16 AM
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As bad as you though he was he probably felt the same about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:57 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:56 AM
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It's an insecurity. I admit it. But i chose to look for a relationship that won't trigger it. How is that in anyway shape or form wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:44 PM
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The ones who actually change are few and far between. I certainly haven't changed significantly from when i was 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:38 PM
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Yes. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:35 PM
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Yare you high?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:55 AM
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And yet you make no steps to move past it either. Hypocrisy at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:54 AM
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I don't think it is short sighted to say that you need a village to raise a child. I do have a village. I work so that i can support my parents retirement. I work so that i can raise my child the way i want to. I don't see anything wrong with that. Infact even if i didnt have parents who would step in, adopting a child would still be a net good seeing as how i am improving their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:46 PM
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Well i do have a close relationship with my parents, so i am sure they will dote on them so i won't be doing it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:36 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:32 PM
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That would solve everyone's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:51 AM
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Philosopher back in the day was short hand for mysoginist. Not the unbiased source you think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:49 AM
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So why would I chose them when they didn't want me earlier. I meake better money now. I could go for someone 5 years younger with hopefully less baggage?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:39 AM
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And i am supposed to be fine with it when i am in my thirties and have only been with her while she has been with 20 other guys. You know what i would be. But then she would have had her fun and come to me with the erroneous idea of settling down and not having to do all those things she wants to do. I still want to do those things. Why the fuck wouldn't i?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:36 AM
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Borne out by reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:27 AM
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I have been called creepy for simy being there. Just existing and minding my own business. Not saying that your experience doesn't happen or matter, just that i would appreciate not having been treated like a school shooter when i was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:24 AM
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So what advice would you give a guy who has zero experience and zero dates and relationships. Him being his authentic self has led to this No generic advice now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:12 AM
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I was thinking more dancing monkey but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:10 AM
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If i ha e to change myself and become a worse version of myself to become sucessful and therefore seen by women, i would be a mysoginist too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:08 AM
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Why would you give them the time of day though. Why not go for the woman who gave you value on the first go?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:05 AM
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Fuck man, i would settle fir somone average who give a shit about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:27 AM
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I think a lot more young men who struggle to get any attention would give up on sex. The last thing they need to give up is the notion that they could still have a family with someone. All those dudes marrying single moms, desperate to have a family even if they don't have their own kids would just do it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:00 AM
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I would do it. I have almost given up on women as a sex. Especially the kind who have dated around and now have 'matured'. They didn't see any value in me as a struggling dude, then i don't see any value in them as a guy who has got his life together now. If i could adopt a child alone, i would go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:58 AM
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I would do it. Hell if i could adopt as a single guy i would go for it. I have long since given up. I do have any a family, somone to live for. But i dont want to have to pair up with a woman to do so. Especially women who have matured and see how much of a great guy i am now that i am 30 and a surgeon. I am this close to giving up on that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:54 AM
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You are on purple pil. What did you expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:30 AM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:20 AM
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Bullshit. All the most entitled behaviour i have seen coming from women. Most men seem to think they need to be better to deserve women. Women seem to expect it as the default. And they freak the fuck out when you say no
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:19 AM
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I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:11 AM
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I agree. Not the wage gap thing but that men should not date women who d not reciprocate. pay the first date but if she doesnt atleast split the second you are at best a slightly better option than neflix at home for her, as in that evenings entertainment. ​ Also men who do well should not date broke ass women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:19 PM
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If you were to ask average man vs average woman good number would chose woman. I know i would. The ones who don't are probably choosing man to avoid (in their own minds) seeming gay. Hegemonic masculinity - gender expectations to conduct yourself as expected of your gender inspite of detriment to yourself EG : thoughts of "a man should never hit a woman" when being abused. The instinct to protect a woman being physically assaulted. The willingness to join a militia to defend your country even wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:04 PM
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Isn't the question rich and attractive man vs rich and attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:36 AM
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Idk. I would take being a woman. It would be cool to be a rich woman. Given the option to be that vs a rich man however, i would take rich attractive man all the time How ever i would chose attractive to average woman over average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:33 AM
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I honestly belive we should treat women exactly as we treat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:22 AM
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I am saying that it doesn't matter. She said no. Functionally wether she is attracted to you or not, she said no. Therefore functionally she is not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:36 AM
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Fuck that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:14 AM
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Great news guys ! Let's wait around for some women to come to that realisation while they go around fucking our better abd we keep humping our hands. No way they won't see us as pathetic amirite. Oh wait. It's not pathetic if we build a decent career while that's happening Yay ! We are essentially attractive jobs rather than people. Horay fir being below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:12 AM
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How the fuck can you be so sanctimonious abd condescending? Do you practice in front a mirror. Do you say it with a British accent ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:00 AM
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There is a great gap in the left when it comes to ethical dating advice. When some one goes into red pill it's not because they are sexist babe want to think that women are hoes with tricks. It's because they are the only one talking about it. There are plenty of left sources that tells that redpill is wrong and encourages nuance, but when it cones to advice there is nothing beyond "be your self" which as noted on askmen, dating, trp, and PDP is completely fucking useless Men would benefit from …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:47 PM
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It terms of raw attraction , a lot. In terms of negotiated attraction, not so much. Negotiated attraction is like a teddy bear that was used as a sex doll. Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:02 PM
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It dosent matter. Does it matter of you don't know the concept of gravity as long as you know what is thrown comes back to the ground a s a parabola? For all intents and purposes she is not interested. Do not waste time on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:00 PM
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What kinda fish bowl world do you live in that you don't see the opposite happening everywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:45 PM
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No, i am within my rights to be mad when people say what i do is the bare minimum when they keep choosing guys who make it seem like the bar is in hell. If that was the bare minimum, then PPD wouldn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:46 PM
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Well everyone wants something. Atleast the relationship is based on overt honesty And you should be happy, if the sucessfully get the girl over to USOff A a woman will likely escape third world conditions to a better life. Couldn't do better as a feminist. Quid pro quo activism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:12 AM
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Apparently they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:04 AM
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If we dont find anyone else who "loves" us, maybe we deserve it? As the other women put it this is what our sexual market value is. To be gaslighted and abused emotionally, to provide for someone who only cares about us inso far as we provide them status and benefits. Women who end up with abusers deserve it too, perhaps moreso because among their options they chose to go for the one who would hurt them That is the logical conclusion of the "you deserve what your SMV gets you" speil that women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:04 AM
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I mean women beaters and jilted lovers are not a new phenomenon. They are not incels by any stretch of the imagination However if you were to put the numbers side by side, they probably kill far more women than incels have. And as far as incels are concerned, i feel like it's the entire abused dog running wild and bitting at random. All of which could be avoided by better mental health services. I dont see that affecting the number of women abusive men kill however
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:51 AM
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My female friends have used the phrase " i wish i met a man like you! You are so amazing." Too many times while still going out with assholes who broke their hearts. Not that i wanted anything to happen with them at that point. I guess i was too resentful. There are very few women i would help without reservation. A sister and 3 friend. I have told them pint blank that if anything happens in the future. Anything that requires them to seek refuge, my home is always open. But i actively classify t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:44 AM
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Most incels kill themselves actually. No one talks about it but i am sure that most people are kinda hoping they kill themselves completely. I feel that men in general kill women pretty often. I don't think incels kill women at a higher rate. They are just pretty easy to spot and blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:38 AM
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If you haven't gotten anysucess then nothing has really changed has it. I went through surgical residency and i embraced alcohol and cigarettes. Every maladaptive response you can imagine I tried it. No doubt it will kill me eventually. But it helped me survive and not kill myself or someone else. I am sure those groups serve a similar function. It keeps you going a little longer. Until it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:35 AM
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If we dont find anyone else who "loves" us, maybe we deserve it? As the other women put it this is what our sexual market value is To be gaslighted and abused emotionally, to provide for someone who only cares about us inso far as we provide them status and benefits. Women who end up with abusers deserve it too, perhaps moreso because among their options they chose to go for the one who would hurt them That is the logical conclusion of the you deserve what your SMV gets you speil that women here…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:30 AM
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I don't think we are capable of that. Our experiences are too different. I am likely to spit venom if a woman comes to me seeking solace because she couldn't get anyone to commit. Meanwhile here i am with porn induced erectile dysfunction (i fear) because i can't see a better future. VR porn better get here fast.. I am likely to avoid her because she displays signs of trauma from the constant rejection. And i am unlikely to stick around because she begins to punish me for the fault of all the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:24 AM
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and time and time again we see the opposite. there was a church going girl that i kinda sort liked. I didnt approach her so no hard feelings when asshole asked her out. But asshole is an asshole and constantly creates situations where we have to cary his water. once the fucker had me stay in the casualty for 3 hours more than i had to because he couldnt make it. i told her straight up that her boyfried is an asshole who literally belives the world revolves around him. but she luvs him (vomit)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:31 PM
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you ae wrong about quite a few things. bbut you are definitely wrong about women liking bisexual men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:20 PM
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why do you approach dating in the same fashion as balkanisation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:14 PM
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No because they recognise the need for fairness in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 11:17 AM
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not their fault if young women want to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:58 PM
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I dobt give a shit what women do. But if i find out that you basically threw yourself at men earlier , dosent matter if he was a pro footbal player, and made me wait, i am getting the fuck out Doesnt matter how many happy months we have had.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:10 AM
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It is true They consider dating passive herbivore men mendoksai
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:09 AM
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By that metric guys who habe had easy lives should be unattractive. Because they haven't done any struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:29 PM
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You are a woman. You tell me. Or is a completely non malicious explaination? Like women taking on more than they should because they feel responsible Like staying in a abusive relationship. Emotional labour etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:46 PM
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She used us to fight back against him. She tried to pretend that she was the victim to gain our protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:39 PM
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No we make women belive that they are weak and need protection. We coddle them with hypoagency. When they learn into that to game the world so that it benefits them at the detriment of others that's toxic femininity. It's bullshit thought because it doesn't cover women shaming men and goading them to how do I put it - act out their gender role
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:38 PM
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Weak. Incable of defense and needing protection
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:51 PM
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You shouldn't keep score.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:41 AM
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Maybe he is not vocal about what he likes. And maybe sometimes the thought is a nice gesture. Dosent have to be expensive. Get him something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:32 AM
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Gifts, vacations and all that, don't you give them to your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:28 AM
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I am not talking about dating a hobo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:26 AM
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And you are celibate. How did the gears of your kind churn that out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:19 AM
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How would you know this in a club.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:19 AM
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You can pay somone to do those things ifyou have the moolah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:16 AM
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Because unsuccessful doesn't mean perclude good person. And if you can take care of the financial side of things it makes more sense to chose somone who makes less but is great and makes you feel loved in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:14 AM
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The more successful a woman in s the less impressive she finds them. Men do like sucessful women. Some would even be not threatened by her sucess eclipsing his. Women tend to not select for men less impressive than them. It's easier for men to respect somone lesser than them than for women to respect somone lesser than them. This is also why so few women are into submissive men. They simply can't respect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:04 AM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:35 PM
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Evidently not when i was younger because consistently it was made difficult by the perception of being a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:25 PM
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It about simply living. It's about going to the library to study. It's about simply sitting in class because you dont want to go play PT with everyone. It's about sitting in a cafe reading a book and bring asked to leave. I have just as much a right as anyone to do those things without being harrassed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:23 PM
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Sure but are you actively treated like a threat to someone else's safety? By just existing in a space you bring a threat to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:09 PM
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You haven't lived life as an ugly unimpressive dude with no redeeming qualities. You don't notice the bullying and you don't notice the social isolation. Ofcourse you belive that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:09 PM
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Sex while being uncomfortable Iis not rape. What? He is making womans requirement of being comfortable sound ridiculous. As in "how was the comfort established or even important when you are hooking up so casually " If it wasn't important then why is it a make it or break criteria now? Ofcourse you can't argue that with a woman so it's best to just stop seeing them anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:56 PM
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Or rather they operate with the training wheel of looks that never come off. Easy to navigate social situations if you are less likely to be seen as creepy and asocial. If women valued social intelegence over looks, ugly social dudes would be dominating the dating scene, not Chads
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:54 PM
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I am saying that actions are based on situations and context. For some, valueing a womans virginity or celibacy is a part of respecting her choice. Finding out that she has prior non traumatic and casual sex does change the context and the tone of your decision. Maybe not fir you but fir others
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:52 PM
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What part of what he said implied rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:49 PM
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They are simply being mind full of the persons beliefs and situation. If you are sleeping with someone and don't try to make it special ofr them on finding out that they are a virgin, you are an absolute asshole. That's the bare minimum. If she is a virgin, i am not gonna try to even escalate to sex so that if it happens she knows it was her choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:48 PM
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He wasn't and you know it Do t be disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:41 PM
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But that comes off as disingenuous. Why would a man risk being with a woman who would weaponize sex like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:40 PM
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That was the case for me. All it did was piss me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:13 AM
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hey man just don't actively stand i our way and that plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:44 AM
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Pretty privilge is real. If i wanted to buy a car i would avoid a m=woman sales person. I would just be a dick and ask for a dude or someone unattractive so that i wouldnt feel the compulsion to show off for
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:36 AM
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men have consistently been a part of feminism. the first ever feminist meeting was organized by men and presided by one wo remaked that he hoped in the coming years women would come forward and give the opening address instead of him. Feminism would not have achieved its advances without them Is it too much to expect help where men lag behind? If feminism doesn't have to care about men why should men ever do anything for feminism what right do feminist have to as men to hold other men accountabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:33 AM
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she can chose not to and still not loose personhood over it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:19 AM
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because they perceive the game as unwinnable. If you have no hopes of earning enough to buy a house, why bother doing anything but earn enough t rent and survive. too many learn the lesson late that they should begin saving much earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:16 AM
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but most are. As they say it the want somone who can support themselves. A guy asking 35,000 a year can support himself. but they probably would ignore him because now the standard is somone who can keep up with them. that would have been more honest
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:55 AM
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Nah. Guys are simple creatures . For the most part we would be thrilled getting anything at all. The fact that you made it just adds to that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:15 PM
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I am just salty that society and our mothers and father forced that narative of sacrifice and bring a provider into our minds to the point that we think it is normal to do that. Such idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:21 PM
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I am just getting a kick out of it. Infact i am learning from women on how do be more self serving as far as dating is concerned. All men should do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:18 PM
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I wonder what that's like Having a girl so attracted to you that she makes food for you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:15 PM
1

How much time is too much time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:14 PM
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It's the ability to chose those roles. Women simply don't chose them as much. I guess the pressure of being the bread winner doesn't agree with feminine sensitivities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:13 PM
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Fuck that. If she doesnt want to fuck you don't stick around hoping she will fuck you You are wasting your time which she might be fine with but you shouldnt be. Ina world where you haven't had a lot of experience, being tied down for a few months even to a woman like that is insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:12 PM
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Men kinda accept it as a part of life though. I really can't get why women won't do the same. You wanted equality. Pony up cheapskates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:10 PM
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Well it's good to learn that as a rule. Right up there with you can't negotiate attraction. Saves a lot of frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:06 PM
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If sharing is the point, why not share your income with him too. Maybe he is better at holding down the home fort. I seems ok to me to share the fruits of your labour with a not as lucky significant other. If i was rich enough to afford 5 times a year vacation i would be an asshole if i didn't take my so Long and expect her to pay her own way instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:59 PM
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For women ? Why would sharing your happiness be dependent on how much he makes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:53 PM
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Maladaptively. My job. Alcohol. Cigarettes since the last 3 months. And now weed. I have a friend, that's how I started smoking. Speak to my family once in 3 days - very surface level stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:40 AM
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You do you. I just said my piece to tell you why it's important to me And some of it is pety no doubt, but i feel like i have earned the right to do that. And what i am doing is to protect myself. It doesn't have to sound nice or acceptable, that's not the purpose of my rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:28 PM
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Not averse to either things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:19 PM
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I am just saying that she should be clear. Telling him that she had a past and that being used like that made her resent those acts. He might understand. Or he may not. But atleast you know sooner than later And who knows maybe you will have a better time with him. Anal is easier if the partners dick size is small
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:16 PM
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What can I say? People are stupid As far as mislead all it takes is for him to ask. Let's do 69 or let's try anal or whatever else .... And her saying "no, i find it demeaning, disrespectful etc."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:04 PM
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So your life experience doesn't really translate well to him or me. We see ourselves as inadequate because as far as the world is concerned we are. It doesn't matter that i am a surgeon. It doesn't matter that the other poster is whatever he is We were not enough. We are not enough. What you are asking us to do is no different from some tech bro saying "making your first million is the hardest part" You aren't wrong, but the conception of a future where we can find ourselves loved for being us i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:02 PM
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Could you please not laugh. I feel like shit and this does not help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:59 PM
3

Where you approached? Did any guy come to you expressing romantic intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:52 PM
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guess my only point was that I find it strange when men make these statements about their partners sexual past as if they have any way of really knowing. If a girl is not interested in ever doing anal again she's not likely to tell you about her phenomenal butt escapades with her ex. Things have a way of getting out. You could find a sex tape on her phone or her mobile. You could find out from her friends. You could run into her Ex. When that happens and the guy finds out the guy feels cheated. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:51 PM
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One question. Have you had a relationship before you found self love?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:47 PM
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Yeah. And i am the unwanted. What does that make me? A troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:46 PM
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It's very difficult to love yourself if you have never received it from others. Him thinking the way he does is only natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:44 PM
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That's a fuck boy. All chads are fuckboys Some have to work at it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:41 PM
2

Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:37 PM
0

buy yourself a wedding bad. See what happens. Just a fun experiment to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:49 PM
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How is that bad? How is he in any way a villain for wanting that? Its either that or chemical castration to feel normal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:48 PM
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Someone who can get sex without changing anything about himself, without subterfuge and without offering commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:43 PM
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Govt is essentially a system that takes wealth from men and gives it to women. That is its role in health care, shelters, aid, and child support and alimony
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:46 AM
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I will priorities my needs she will priorities hers and if we want to make it work we spit the difference. If one doesn't hold up their end then we break up. Simple enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:13 AM
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Exchange of resources. His money allows them to have more experiences. Trips to a city nearby, reservations at an expensive restaurant, wine. With guys her age it's Mac and cheese and wendies. As long as there are no illusions here, there is no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:36 AM
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What is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:34 AM
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To me, dating is just figuring out if we want to spend time with each other. No one owes the other anything. Therefore it only makes sense to bear the cost equally. If not that then i atleast expect her to split or take the bill on the next date. I am not investing in her. We are investing in each other If she doesn't then that's enough evidence that she doesn't want to interact with me and that i am most likely a better alternative than an evening spent on Netflix. Depends on the woman. If she …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:07 AM
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Not disputing that women get abused. I have seen far too many. But i have seen a lot of them recover and have good relationships too. I have nothing against women, it would be great if we could all get what we want But i need to do what's best for me. My criteria is Willingly splits the check on the first date. And is generally willing to share. No undue delay in the initiation of sex ( soft sign) depends on individual women and their comfort Is generally open to anything and everything, and dos…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:38 AM
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Women in general if they chose to can get into relationships much easier than men. They do accumalate more relationship experience and are socialised in a way that makes them adept at communication and reading of subtext. Plus you have friends who may decide to stage an intervention. The flip side being that with all those rationships they tend to accumalate baggage and i securities that the next part er has to deal with. Men, especially men like me, relatively asocial, few friends, no long-term…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:30 AM
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We accept the love we think we deserve. If no one has given us love it's only natural we accept it even if it comes with abuse. Regardless as a guy, this is risky as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:23 AM
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And what of men who have never experienced it? What of men who have no idea what a red flag is because they have never been in a relationship. It is better to use objective criteria to act as surrogate for lack of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:14 AM
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This doesnt really matter to men who are experienced. They probably have been through situations where they realise that how soon they sleep with women doesn't depend on their romantic feelings for her. But i dont have the luxury of experience to draw from. Call it an insecurity if you want but in the limited time i have left i don't want to chose a woman who settles for me. I dont want to end up 10 years down the line with her handing over papers saying "i never loved you" So i have rules that …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:12 AM
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Even if they are that's their choice. What's your damage? Why is it so wrong to objectify women the way they do? Atleast it is honest in its transactional nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:06 AM
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If that was true i wouldnt be getting attention now compared to when i was in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:02 AM
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For a 30 year old who hasn't had much of a hoe phase young 20s would be ideal. Neither wants to settle The can fuck casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:59 AM
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That says more about her than it does about me. I'll survive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:37 AM
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Is there? Tell me then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:35 AM
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Pretend that it doesn't matter to you and that there is no judgement while talking about theses things. Pretend you have had a similar life When you find out, slowly distance yourself. No need to make the reason apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:34 AM
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Quite a few relationship advice threads where women insist that this is not the norm and that you can't assume that to are exclusive no matter how long you date
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:41 PM
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No doubt. But i meant Barista
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:39 PM
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I dontplan on wasting it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:35 PM
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Whatever man. I have been proven time and again that right and wrong and good and bad don't matter in dating. All that matters is sales. The act of selling yourself as an amazing option. I can do that now. No one is gonna go out with me based on how good a person i am. If goodness was a criteria Gandhi and MLK would have been sex symbols. If goodness was the criteria,the me in the past would have been loved. Being good hasn't don't anything fir me. I am gonna be strategic now. Style over substan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:14 PM
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Well the salary and job thing is preselection criteria. The sex thing is relationship criteria. You won't catch me messing with a Barista
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:10 PM
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Same woman. If you have had casual sex before but chose to wait 3 months before having sex with me... The only thing I can interpret is that you were not attracted to me. To me that spells doomto the future of the relationship with an increased likelihood of the weaponisation of sex On the other hand if a woman has consistently dated in that patern, that's acceptable. I can chose to continue on a case by case basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:50 PM
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I think they were wrong because i saw guys who were walking emotional trainwrecks get attention. I don't mind standards as long as they are consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:19 PM
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No. Because i have consistently shown self awareness. I know enough of myself to not harm others based on my own insecurities. Because i belive in leaving a person and a place better than when i find it. I have met very few women apply that philosophy with the men they screen since we are so replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:03 PM
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He shot back quite nicely
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:58 PM
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Because there is pretty simple way to stop complaining. You break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:52 PM
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Because they keep telling us otherwise. They make beta buxing sound aspirational. That's how my mom and sister got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:51 PM
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They don't. Hope that answers your questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:48 PM
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5'6" and a surgeon?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:27 AM
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Why do women who treat you like shit deserve better partners? While i am grinding onthe cosmic treadmill of self improvement what do women do to deserve me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:25 AM
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If it's the same either ways may as well go fo the younger less jaded ones. This is not illogical
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:15 AM
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So what are we supposed to do. Date the women who wouldn't give a fuck about us without our money. Likely to have similar problems with being jaded after going through the mill of trying to sleep with guys and not being able to keep them. And then shame us for being loosers. Fuck that. Younger girls or nothing. Idgaf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:08 AM
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Well, if it changes anything, i am sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:38 AM
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So there was this youtuber who goes by FD signifier. He is a black man and steeped in the cultural issues of race. He worked as a teacher for a long time (over 10 years) He worked in majority black schools and majority white schools. He was aware of all the problems in the black adolescence, he had grown up with that. He remembered going to a majority white district that was a epitome of white poverty. He thought that the issues would be the same. They weren't. He wasn't able to empathise becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:34 AM
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There were bombings during the suffragettes revolution, so i don't know what you are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:27 AM
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Yeah I agree with others. You are consistent in your ability to be uniquely offputting and insensitive. Everytime someone claims that women are more empathetic i just have to look to you and others like you. You are not. I truely shudder to think of having someone like you being my mom. My mom is not anti man, but she did say that a man who cries is untrustworthy. This while i was crying over being falsely accused. Her only slip up in over 2 decades. With someone like you though, it would be a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:22 AM
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This is why i dont approach old friends who look better now. No need to put them through that mind fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:08 AM
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Well that explains you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:06 AM
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He is not wrong though is he. The world would be a better place if we advised young men on how to be attractive vs telling them that someone will like them for who they are on the inside eventually. I am late to the realisation at 29, but i am gonna work on my artifice. Not necessarily my personality but how i present myself. I bear resentment towards my sister and my parents for this reason. Their advice implied that staying who i was and being chosen as the guy they marry after i get my shit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:54 AM
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Because you are one woman. The men responding to you have all experienced being called creepy fir just existing, looking at the wall with a deadpan stare while eating, reading a book in the library. You name it. So when you say it's about behaviour and not looks it diesnt bear out. Not saying that you don't treat people well, but that doesn't change our life experience. You are essentially doing what men who say 'not all men' do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:27 AM
1

Healthy doesn't necessarily optimise growth. Surplus does. Diabetic mom's tend to have bigger babies
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:18 AM
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Most people grow the same amount. Genetics matter ofcourse. Eg Scandinavian below 6 foot are rare. But for the most part a better standard of living with no food shortages and nutrient deficiency leads to an average increase in height. Cousins growing up in USA are frequently a few inches talker than their Desi counterparts. Baby charts where made based on anthropological studies and found that most infants all around the world do not have major variances in height and weight unless it is due to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:31 AM
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TVtropes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:26 AM
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Because it was a thing. I would say that 50percebt of the youth in my country are romantically inexperienced until marriage But 50 % do. I fact it's kinda expected that your wife will have had somone before you and no longer accepted to discriminate based on purity ( gag) I was in a relatively liberal circle, and i saw people pairing off left and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:21 AM
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I am describing the phenomenon where we do nothing and literally just exist and are called creeps for that. This doesn't happen to attractive guys. It happens to boys girls think they can discount.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:18 AM
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Nah. This bears out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:15 AM
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Yup. I have begun to defensively employ the standards they use against me. Salary and job more important that any other criteria. Opertunism vs opertunism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:06 AM
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I mean why even come to me now? These are people i knew. If it was a stranger i could imagine and fool myself into beliveing that she may have chosen me when i was struggling. Am I wrong for being resentful? I don't think so
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:04 AM
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Pretty much. Talking about how they would like to catch up How i always treated them with respect. How they always felt a spark there. Edit : i should tell you that in my culture arranged marriage is pretty common
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:59 AM
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We have seen too much. Read too much It's inevitable that the other shoe will drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:58 AM
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So we agree . The bar is lower for unattractive/ ugly men. Don't be a contrarian
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:56 AM
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No no you keep going ahead and flexing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:55 AM
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So let's take me as an example. Through out my twenties i was called creepy for just existing. I was seen as the dependable guy and the brother when everyone needed help or advice. But i was never attractive. (Except one time) Now at 29, i am a doctor and proposals are coming out of the woodwork. I have not changed personality wise. That's not true - i have objectively become a worse person. I don't trust, i have deep cynicism, and misanthropy. And yet women seem to think i am a great guy now. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:53 AM
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The part where the risks are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:50 AM
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What's repulsive is suddenly getting attention when you have a decent job and stand to warn money. That's not love. That's just opertunism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:47 AM
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Time is justice. /S Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:21 AM
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I don't understand the instinct of women to Gaslight us that our experiences don't matter. Our mothers and our sisters and girlfriends are just as likely to enforce patriarchal norms of not more so. When a large number of men tell you stories of how they have been mistreated for opening up... Just belive them. And then they bitch at us about notallmen. Just because you do the basic human thing dosent mean it's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:11 AM
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I would say that a good parentage of the time, it is . I remember sitting somewhere in class, people suddenly crowding around my desk and then getting scarred when I asked them to move so that i could leave. From my perspective i was sitting there doing nothing and a group of people suddenly blocked the way out of class. I decided to leave 15 min later, and they flinched when I spoke up. Apparently that was creepy. (They called me that) It's happened at other times to. It's hard not to judge peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:04 AM
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That doesn't change the fact that the bar for ugly guys is much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:01 AM
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So this guys lived experience is untrue is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:00 AM
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Give us love (and sex) and we will give you our soul
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:06 PM
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You sound like us and call us crazy for talking that way. Psychiatric term : projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:03 PM
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Nothing wrong with being socially inept. Plenty of good people have trouble with that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:53 PM
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Can we stop defending her and just agree that she was an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:50 PM
3

Are you showing off? that you receive enough attention nd validation to not crave socio-emotional contact from someone else? Thats what it sounds like to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:43 AM
1

As a 29 year old virgin I would say 25. Start working o your numbers rookie
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:27 AM
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Nothing, Is fucking Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:27 AM
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There is a go around. Aal newborns should be screened for genetic diseases. In the process paternity is established too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:23 PM
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Well there are situations. Interracial relationships where the child doesn't look mixed. And you deal with everyone around you telling you that the may not be yours, the jokes the inuendos ... It fucks with you. At that point the test is not because you don't trust her but so that your mind doesn't keep obsessing over these doubt nuggets
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:18 PM
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Every single person who got cheated on trusts their partner. And then it our fault anyway. 'you should have vetted her better'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:14 PM
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What if you dint have it inyou to be the dominant partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:08 PM
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It's telling that not a single woman here came up to say they love to be the one throwing their man around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:05 PM
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Most people are deciding against having children anyway. Men would probably try to adopt or not at all Women wouldn't probably artificially inseminate themselves or just fuck the hottest guy they can find without protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:03 PM
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No .. it just might. It just won't happen in my lifetime. You want to know what's the scarier alternative ? VR porn Once occulus becomes as ubiquitous as phones there will be a sexpocalyps. Porn induced erectile dysfunction will skyrocket in men of nearly all backgrounds and ages. Women and men will find it more difficult to connect in relationships where men find it easier to plug in and fuck Mia Khalifa like she is actually there with her tits realistically jigling in front of his face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:56 PM
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With women there is a chance that she could be right for you. There is a chance no matter how small to acheive happiness. With a doll, there is the absolute soulcrushing certainty that there is nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:48 PM
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Indulging in that kind of self delusion feels like a sign of weakness, something that society trains us to never do There are other self destructive methods to cope - smoking alcohol weed. But falling in love with your sex doll is the kinda thing that can make you a target for social shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:45 PM
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So your argument is that so long as men continue to pursue they should suck it up? Why should a worker protest the poor wages he receives,. Even if he is barely able to pay for existence. He is atleast getting paid enough to survive right? He should have nothing to complain about. Work life balance, hazard, retirement, pension programs, fuck that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:43 PM
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Because inspite of evidence to the contrary we still hope, for somone to love us as we are. I agree with you and i think with time larger and larger percentages of young men who have constantly been met with rejections will go that route. AI companions that can simulate the role of a person happy to have you around. Given enough time it is possible to build a romantic connection with even inanimate objects much less software that can fool you into a connection. The biggest barrier to entry is of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:41 PM
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its a valid strategy, if applied to all men equally. If the woman in question has a promiscuous past, all that means to me is that she is not attracted enough to me n to want to do that with me. even if I find this out later un the relationship i am gonna be very bothered and is likely to want to make me break up with her for my own mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:14 PM
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So i belive that i am the greatest surgeon in the world despite all my patients dying Does that make me confident or delusional? Dictionary definitions are redifined or found wanting all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:40 AM
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The comment you are responding to has it right. This is how women respond to men asking for advice from the self proclaimed friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:06 AM
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Also bullshit. Confidence depends on external and internal validation. Confidence is self belief and the ability to back it up (as judged by an objective standard) . I can belive that i am the best surgeon in the world until kingdom come, but it's pointless and down right delusional if my surgeries have a 100% mortality. Good looking guys have an easier route to building confidence than other people because their sense of self worth is so rarely challenged. Meanwhile low value boys go through ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:51 AM
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As young as you are, you probably shouldn't be on here. Like reading your responses i was gonna turn on the adult serving of snark, but you are just a kid and don't deserve that. Guys on here who come to vent won't see.yiu as a kid. They will bark. No need for that kinda negativity in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:40 AM
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I intended to post it on the pare t comment made by coconyc. Reddit got fucky
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:06 PM
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This doesn't sound like a self pity post at all. It seem like a reasonable and grounded assesment. And free of the hate that you guys detest. And even if there was self pity that's still preferable to outright mysoginy. Anyway it's telling that even a post like this is toned as inappropriate by insinuation that it's basically whining. Like how are men supposed to talk about it ina. Way that women can accept ? Why must men talk about it in a way that women find palatable? We know you have no symp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:43 PM
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They don't trust men anyway. Just make the subtext overt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:00 PM
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Why would I begrudge anyone their happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:59 PM
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You will be suprissed by how little the world cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:48 AM
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You forget the context of Korean Men being conscripted for the military. The subtext being that they would feel the over all lack of concern for them and the level of 'hysterical' focus these women would have on womens issues would have just pissed them off
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:44 AM
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Thats not what i was saying. What i am saying is that if women find this all pervasive fear as much of a problem as they say it does, then they wouldn't be on tinder and any other sites that allows them to meet strangers. They would stay within their social circle to deal with known quantities only. The fact that some women do means that they didn't consider the fear to be a significant enough deterent. Ie : the fear is negligible. The realities of assault is not whats being debated. I am not ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:09 PM
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How does me having women as friends help me succeed in dating if the women i am trying to date see my virginity at 30 as a red flag? Are the friends supposed to provide testimonials or something? Like a neighborhood Yelp review?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:42 PM
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Great someone else with this inner beauty bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:50 PM
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Doesn't matter. With the number of prospects they have they don't need to take a chance in an unverified loser. At the end i will have to do what i find repulsive - lie. All it takes is one time and the lie is no longer a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:37 PM
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I feel like that's just bullshit people say. To a fisherman whose survival depends upon his catch and excess of challenge is a threat to the life of his family, and ease means prosperity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:34 PM
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Yeah so how are you supposed to deal with that? If you are disqualified at start why even play? Especially since with the lack of experience you bring to the table you have no idea if any relationship you have has red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:32 PM
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I dont understand. Being a virgin = not knowing your way around women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:25 PM
1

Fuck challenge. People who romanticise challenge are closet masochists
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:18 PM
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Plenty of women have told me that me having no experience at 29 is a red flag. It's a common sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:01 PM
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Seems like a good plan. Guess i should do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:52 PM
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No it doesn't. It choses the explanation that cuts the woman maximum slack in any situation. I don't know about others but i would rather be with someone who wants to be treated as an equal rather than coddled You shouldn't fall in love with a pedestal either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:02 PM
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I am saying the fact that confidence is all important isl bullshit. (Not that it is not true) And i dont hate myself, i am just realistic about my importance in the world. I am not more important than say the next kid who cures Cancer. I actually find confident people to be egotistical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:45 PM
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It's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:42 PM
2

A perfectly valid answer would be - you can do everything right and still fail. Thats life. It's the assumption that we are somehow deficient in someway that gets to me. Our difficulties are not imagined bogeymen. Our gripes are not entirely composed of men complaining because of entitlement. There is honestly something pretty fucked up about all of this and we are being set up to fail if you keep telling us that it is all our fault . Self reflection is what led me here. Self reflection is what …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:40 PM
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Between the empty pointlessness of life and hedonism, i can see why people would chose to self sedate. You stay happy in your marriage and leave us on our Island of misfit toys
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:33 PM
1

Well that was an erra with no regulations on elixirs which were all basically mixtures of alcohol and cocaine. Plus lead poisoning to keep you delirious
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:31 PM
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I dont think blue pill will either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:30 PM
2

Be hygienic, well groomed and dressed. Have interests and hobbies. Try to be leveling up just like a video game character. Try to be someone that you would admire, respect and want to be friends with, even date. Without being facetious, i am all of those things. I have achieved more than i had any reason to expect of myself. The only thing left is to grind for cash and fitness. Look you just admitted to following some of the red pill stuff. That sets you up for failure and puts a lot of toxic st…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:28 PM
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Not a system set up for you or where you live. So no your opinion is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:21 PM
1

Disagree. Hard disagree. I don't know which idiot came up with that but he was high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:09 PM
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Maybe it does. I would argue that even if it exists it's rare. Rare enough that we all know that one couple .... But the rest of us plebs are not destined for it. Most of us are destined to pursue imitations in our quest for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:08 PM
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Thats the endgame though. Thats what most of us are playing for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:07 PM
2

You expect a degree of ethical behaviour from even total strangers. People with issues shouldn't date. But ofcourse you will argue that people deserve what they get in the sexual market place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:06 PM
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If i was to behave a certain way to get sex or even a relationship, that kinda sorta defeats the purpose. I have been nothing but myself the last 8 or so years, unapologetically and unashamedly. I honestly can't be any other way. If i like someone I make it clear to them, if i dont I just avoid them. I covertly try to make sure nothing bad happens to anyone but that came back to bite me in the ass with some men basically ignoring all sane advice and sone women claiming that i had an ulterior mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:58 PM
1

You maybe right about that. But in her case it was like i could feel the subtext. It was like considering dating a feminist who keeps saying Killallmen only kinda kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:06 AM
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She was attractive enough. Plenty attractive. She was in a state where anyone would do. Constant rejections one after the other (after sex). Had left her unsure of her self worth. She wanted me to bolster that self image up with commitment. Thats not the right woman for me .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:51 AM
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They were both of similar ages so it would have been covered by Romeo and Juliet laws. The whole looks thing? An entire generation of men have been gaslit into beliveing that the right women will like them for them. This is bullshit ofcourse, but i didn't know nor realise it in my late teens and early 20s and all it did was shoot me in the foot. You can call me and every other guy like me an idiot if you want but society did lie to us. You think it sold women an unrealistic fantasy of romance? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:43 AM
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I don't think that's true. A significant number of mtnen would get to get her with T girls if social stigma was not a thing. Sex is a proxy if human connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:38 AM
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You forget that he was fucking his wife at the age of 13 and got her knocked up at 14. He also was fucking her on the regular while his dad was on a death bed. None of that takes away from my point in widder paralance he is more famous for the good he did than the bad. Gandhi is an ideal more than a person now. And that idealisation is not sexy. There is nothing more unsexy than a man who is incapable of violence. You still haven't disputed my point that we do men a diservice by not letting them…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:34 AM
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I was making a point. Substitute MLK with Mr Rogers then. Or even the guy who played the Stu in Blues clues. But at the end of the day what MLK did was stand up against injustice. That was an absolute moral good. He is more famous for that than his infidelity. So his example still stands. And nothing you said refutes my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:30 AM
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would you prefer to date the fat girl at the gym before or after she loses the weight? Most men would prefer the end result, and not want her while she’s still grinding (aka trying to lose the weight). Honestly if i knew her while i she was still fat and grinding to get thinner and i didn't want to be with her then, then i wouldn't get together with her after she also out. Mostly just to spare her the feelings of, 'i was not good enough to date while i was unattractive'. If i met someone who use…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:29 AM
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The same could be acheived by eco terrorists bombing the slums of Mumbai and Jakarta. To help the failing ecosystem ofcourse. No seems to be suggesting that is a good idea. Hell even voluntary suicide is a much better thing for the world at large than any amount of waste segregation and green choices you make in your lifetime. No one is pretending that that is a legitimate argument to make. So just chill OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:17 AM
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Nah. This is an over reaction and on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:13 AM
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Conversely man women get turned off when you focus time and attention on her. Which makes your statement kinda bullshit. It's like " Don't behave like as if i am not special but dobt behave like aa if i am the only one... Thats just desperate." Dating as it is right now is a weird mix of scarcity mindset and avoidant behaviour. Be keen but not too keen. It's all bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:10 AM
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That is exactly it. I considered selling myself to be incredibly dishonest. I am not that jazzed about myself as a person. Ideally somone else would find me adequate and that would be great but fir the most part it seems i need to keep advertising about how much of a great car i am, how reliable i am, how much trunk space i have when by the law of averages what i habe is no different from most other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:04 AM
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Great he can look forward to getting Chlamydia in nursing homes after a completely loveless and unwanted life experience. If he lives that long. Whoop Dee doo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:57 AM
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It's a free sub
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:44 AM
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Isn't that the same thing though, if you get attention after you have got your life together vs when you were still grinding. Doesn't it just prove that the only thing being valued is security and salary over personality? If i am being liked because of my job, how is that any different from paying for it. Isn't it inherently more dangerous for somone like me to date right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:40 AM
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I care. But defensively. It seems the only way to save yourself from getting fucked over in a divorce. To marry someone who makes as much as or more than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:56 AM
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No. I mean arranged marriage and looking for a partner yourself or having relationship are not mutually exclusive. There definitely is some overlap. In anycase, even if it is not arranged, my job is what makes me attractive now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:19 AM
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Call it a bimodal distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:24 PM
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No. Honesty would be to admit that guys who look great will get away with more shit. To admit that the biggest predictor of sucess is good looks. The moral is not to console yourself with, "Atleast I belive that men and women are equal" it is to do what ever you can to improve your looks and pray that it is enough. We wouldn't waste our time thinking that there is someone out there who will find us. Because for most guys? average guys? Personality is not the problem. We may as well be diamonds b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:41 PM
2

That is our normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:06 PM
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the nightlife in my country is not very developed. Arranged marriage is a thing here still. Seem like i am gonna go that route
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:04 PM
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I was offered a few times but it seems to predicate a kind of expectation of a continued relationship. Like i could accept and then not interact later but they would probably call me out for it. It was not worth the social fallout. Plus i kinda like her as a person and didn't want to hurt her with a conversation that was essentially, i see you you as good enough to have sex with but not have a relationship with (that's how she would see it, even if i didn't mean it) The same scenario has occured…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:58 PM
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Do they require a lot of time to be with them. My job is like 12-16 hrs most days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:53 PM
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Then i shall. I was struggling with the morality of my actions but i guess it's Ok of i in return have no moral expectations of the other person too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:51 PM
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What about cats?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:51 PM
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So do you agree that 50-70 years of freedom under your belt, you should have as a gender done more? Or do you conceed that the world as it is right now is your (women's ) fault too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:50 PM
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I do ha e friends. I had people i knew who i was not friends with either I had girls i was friends with who would ce to me with relationship gripes. I would see the guys behaviour and know what to expect and i would even warn them. A few times i was accused of having ulterior motives and i simply stoped. The mind games and the tears continue wether or not i intervene.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:48 PM
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I am just saying suppose i am able to do this - sleep with all the women i want but do it with completely amoral behaviour... Thats Ok too? As long as i can make it happen... It's excusable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:46 PM
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that's kinda the point right? he doesn't know because he never experienced it. I haven't either but knowing that I am gonna be desired for what i do rather than who i am makes me sad. it tells me that the only thing i am valued for is my Job
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:39 PM
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It is "all" your fault. you don't like the deal, negotiate a better one then. Don't marry the top earners, make it clear that it is not attractive. Pursue the image of success you wanted your guy to have for yourself. learn to respect the man who is " lesser " than you as equal in the relationship. Like men are expected to do for women. You and others claim that men complaining about the sexual market place and all its flaws basically brought it upon themselves. If that's the case i submit to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:32 PM
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So anything is OK as long as you are successful? So if am ale to build my artifice and then just bang and dip, not exactly promising a relationship but hinting at it to get the sex I want, that's OK? Seems like the only play I can make
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:23 PM
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I have enough awareness to recognize a person who is a normal guy vs an asshole. If misogyny was a disqualifying criteria that most women seem to say it is then there are far too many guys that i can see who are successful in spite of it. Most of these men treat other men like shit. In ways that these women see it too, but they don't give a shit because they are being treated well at the moment. But relationships have their ups and downs and these imbeciles are surprised that the dude is a dick …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:20 PM
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So why say bullshit like, being a misogynist is what keeps you from getting laid. That is blatantly not true is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:14 PM
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He is not wrong however that complete assholes do much better with women. I am not talking about guys who simply get girls. I am talking about the douchy alpha bros who get so wrapped up in feelings that they would willingly escalate any interaction to a screaming match or even physical altercation. They were good looking though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:09 PM
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That is the point that OP was making. Misogyny has no bearing upon sexual attractiveness. Don't listen when they say " The reason you are an incel is that you are a misogynist."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:04 PM
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At this point there is no merit to listening to anything women have to say and apply it to the larger dating socio-economic system. After all, as they say, women are not a monolith. All that you can do is keep improving yourself and shoot as many shots as you want. Do not think that being a good person actually matters to anyone but yourself. Be as good or as amoral as you want to be. None of that shit matters. Dating always was and always will be sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:02 PM
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Apparently men are not a monolith. Earlier Onlyfans was a hard no fir me. However considering their ubiquitous nature, i am begining to consider itna soft no instead. FML.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:44 PM
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The fact that you don't care that you will say the first thing that comes to mind to get rid of him rather than think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:01 AM
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You have enough options that sone men improving changes nothing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:57 AM
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Your perception of creepy depends on wethere or not the man is attractive. Forgive us if we take it with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:56 AM
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I think he meant psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:10 PM
2

I think he meant psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:10 PM
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Not gonna lie. Raising an army of Spartan geeks seems pretty fun. If i ever get the privilege of raising a boy, i would probably get him and his loser friends to work out with me everyday to hopefully instill healthy habits in them and improve their chances at life at an earlier age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:08 PM
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They will. when you ascribe human intelligence and attributes to a non living object you kinda imagine their love for you as well. ​ the simplest way to explain it is that the brain fills in the gaps. Tom Hanks bonding with Wilson. Lars falling in love and basically enacting a whole relationship with a sex doll - they are TV examples of a very real phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:30 PM
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I thought it was dehumanising to think in leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:10 AM
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this is ironic as hell. the man is trying to enforce standards similar to the ones women enforce on men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:39 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:20 PM
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You are doing the same to his.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:30 AM
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Pickings are slim as it is Add earnings into that and nearly 80% become unfuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:03 AM
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Bullet doged.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:01 AM
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So why even bother. Why not regin yourself to prostitutes and then donate your money to an orphanage or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:53 AM
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Please don't be sad. We use everything within our power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:51 AM
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Enjoy the decline boys!! There is no point in working your ass off getting a great job and buying a house only to settle with somone who gives less of a shit about you than a cohort of guys she banged a few years ago. She doesn't deserve the fruit of your blood and tears. And you don't deserve a marriage lacking in love and desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:31 AM
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And that's ok? This is their teens and early twenties where resources shouldn't matter as much. And if resources matter so much what's stopping men at higher levels of earning from looking at relationships as glorified sex work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:26 AM
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You can work towards a future you can envision. If you can't even consider it possible, effort seems pointless. The world may habe changed but if people belive in the self fulfilling prophecy of their past failure, then they won't be arsed enough to do a thing about it. The biggest thing is that boys do not belive they have a future worth working for, on multiple fronts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:23 AM
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A big driver of chasing jobs and working longer hours is to support somone. Sure there are the self motivated type who want to build wealth abd own a home, but with greater swaths of populations being priced out it makes sense to disengage, get a low income job and just coast. For some even.this lifestyle dosent stop them from getting hookups, so they feel it works out well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:17 AM
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Rape is most commonly an expression of dominance rather than love or desperation. It's a way to violate someones personhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:03 PM
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They do it by making mental allowances for most women. Something like double think as elucidated in 1984. Eg if a woman behaves poorly when you reject her for sex men are encouraged to consider the fact that she hasn't experienced much rejection in her life. The man is forced to console her and her hurt feelings. However by all rights she should be considered an asshole for not respecting her partners sexual autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:25 PM
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Then It goes both ways though. Retail workers work for the same minimum wage but women are chosen to populate the storefront while men are given jobs in the back rooms with more loading and unloading goods Thats more effort for the same work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:55 AM
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Toxic femininity is the worst exaggeration of female behaviour. In feminine behaviour some amount of dependence exists. When that goes to a pathological extent to the point that you feel entitled to the fruits of his labour and support, that's toxic femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:01 AM
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People change and become something new. I was a lot more shy and reticent to enter conflict although i am no stranger to them. Due to the nature of my work i have the ability to shift gears to advocate forcefully for my side.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:41 AM
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Women seem to expect me to do it. Nothing wrong with applying the same standards back to you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:29 AM
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Actually. Even in muggings and assaults the assailants avoid going for women. Men are specifically at risk for being men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:24 AM
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You just wanted to make that comment? Really? And such a dumb one too. These are all valid questions to ask and not the ridiculous gotcha you think it is. We allready incorporate avoiding as much as we can of this in our daily life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:22 AM
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Yes. I would also get an implant at 21 for contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:16 AM
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Why wouldn't we be envious? Obviously they have something we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:15 AM
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Plenty of people with fucked up veiws are in realtionships. People who don't belive that women deserve rights. People that feel like all women everywhere want the D. People that feel like they are their SO are not equal or belive in some kind of ownership over their partners. By what you said all of these people should not have been able to find anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:10 PM
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Not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:45 PM
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I get it. I am the same way. Cope with it how ever you can. See if you can see a professional domme befor settling down to see if you are content with tasting it once and being ok with never having it again or its something that you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:48 AM
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While your examples are poor, your point is correct. Women will not help the outgroup Men are more likely to help men than women Men are also likely to help women and children. Women help only women and children. Personally given the choice to build the world in my image i would make one where a woman was just as likely as a man to jump on a grenade.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:01 AM
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I agree that all of this was anecdotal but even in my experience women are less likely to help and offer help than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:57 AM
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And you are married. So it doesn't really affect you. And you will never know what it is like to have zero attention. Because i am sure you get some even now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:48 AM
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It happens when they hit 50. There was a model bitching about getting ignored once she got older. It was hilarious to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:44 AM
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I haven't. And i bet even they wouldn't if they didn't put in the leg work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:44 AM
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But it does though. The context and conotation of a virgin wanting to wait vs somone who had slept with guys much faster in the past but now prefers to go slow is completely different. The Virgin may have insecurities and anxieties wrt intimacy that requires more finese to deal with. Details of past relationships do affect the current relationship. It affected her to cause her to take it slower didn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:41 AM
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I would say that i was more of a jump in headlong kinda guy but i have become more cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:37 AM
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I think she needs to let him know. Not the least bit because if she is fucking anyone else it also affects his sexual health. Ofcourse he should let her know too if he is getting action on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:36 AM
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Some people hold sex to a higher standard than casual fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:31 AM
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It's not about imagination. It's about transparency. And it avoids hurt in the future. The entire farce that is "we weren't exclusive yet" won't exist. This is simply more humane abd makes for a more efficient dating process. Surely less time wasted is better fir everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:05 AM
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Let's put it this way.. we can't mandate sex but we can expect transparency. Ie. - if you had a wild past and now you want to wait to make sure that the connection between us is real - then say that. Say it exactly as that. I had a wildphase but i am looking fir something serious now and want to take it slow Given that information it's on the guy If he wants to date her or not. If casual sex in the past is a deal breaker - then let it be a deal breaker. You lose nothing Or if you are dating mult…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:57 PM
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Children are not something i burn for. I figgured if it came down to it i would simply defer to my partners choice I don't have any anxiety if being the last of my line
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:55 PM
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Let's put it this way.. we can't mandate sex but we can expect transparency. Ie. - if you had a wild past and now you want to wait to make sure that the connection between us is real - then say that. Say it exactly as that. I had a wildphase but i am looking fir something serious now and want to take it slow Given that information it's on the guy If he wants to date her or not. If casual sex in the past is a deal breaker - then let it be a deal breaker. You lose nothing Or if you are dating mult…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:54 PM
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I wasn't always a doctor was i ?. I had to go through school and college. To me financial sucess was not a prerequisite before i was a doctor. My mindset was, if a girl is willing to commit to me and be willing to bear my child, then it is my job to ensure she never regrets that descision. Lol i was as blue pilled as they come. Now? Idgaf. She needs to be able to have a decent well paying job like me. And she sure as fuck should not even consider being a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:46 PM
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Honest in their dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:40 PM
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Point is it is gendered because women rarely marry men poorer than them. By their mate selection criteria itself they have a predeliction towards golddigging. And there is my own life... That bullshit thing that Sheryl sandberg says about settling with an equal partner ? I am that guy. However i was too ugly and too shy in my youth to attract even a glance in my direction... But now that i am a doctor, oh everyone is interested. With zero dating experience it is impossible fir me to see the red …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:37 PM
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The first few women who are getting divorced having out earned their husbands fir years are seething. They see alimony as a purely anti men financial tool and it rankles them that it can be used against them. It was the subject of a few articles. They don't have the grave of the few men who expect and even accept it as the cost of packing the ex out of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:27 PM
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If answered i would be banned fir personal attacks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:24 PM
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I think they are growing pains. I mean once VR becomes mainstream most incels will opt for that as sex. They may even go the way of Japan and just adopt the herbivore mentality rather than rage against everyone. That would be welcome relief to most women i think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:26 PM
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It's not his problem though. He was contracted to work a certain number of hours and the hospital needs to staff someone else at the time that he wasn't available to do so. What if this man had gone fishing? Would you blame him for doing something he wants to do on his holiday or the administration that didn't plan for his absence in favour of cost cutting?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:20 PM
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You really need to sit somewhere and read through the verdict and all the statement s made Maybe twice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:05 PM
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I think it was a kind of image rehabilitation. It worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:04 PM
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The thing is when the news initially broke there was a groundswell of support for Heard. When it came out that she had likely done thinga to Depp, people who thus far rubished the existence of reciprocal violence started to say that she was an imperfect victim who was reactively abusive. But as the details came out further it seem that she was infact the abuser with Depp being the imperfect Victim. But now people want to down play that and claim that it was reciprocal. There is a palpable double…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:02 PM
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3 cousins is fine dude. I would have just gone with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:17 AM
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If i was her friend and rejected her even mentally earlier, i wouldn't even approach her with romantic intentions lest i taint our friendship with the aftertaste of lookism. Definitely not if she approached me and i rejected her siting an incompatibility. It's shitty of me if i approach her as a romantic conquest once she becomes fit. It's like i am signalling she wasn't worth a relationship when she was not fit that no matter how beautiful her inner self was it wasn't good enough for her to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:29 PM
1

Yes.... Imagine that....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:13 PM
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You are not here to understand anything. You are simply here to flex about being a woman and troll everyone. It's ok when you do it to the hardcore delusional redpillers But you do it to people who do bring up legitimate points as it they are not worth considering. I mean ignore the issues. You dont have to care about them. But don't pretend to want to have an open dialogue or pretend that you are willing to consider another perspective instead of going 'lol' and :-) on every third line. As far …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:59 PM
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You have Google. You have the search function look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:51 PM
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It's like he is larping as mister Rogers. I mean i want him to be correct but life dosent bear it out
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:33 PM
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More importantly women don't really offer decent emotional support to men Some women do. But on a general numbers game most women as simply not ready nor are they empathetic enough to men to truely hel More often than not that are actively harmful. So yes, you have a better time confiding in men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:26 PM
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Beginnings of change
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:24 PM
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You are not going your own way if you are still willing to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:10 PM
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There is no flattering response. Period. But thats somehow men's fault as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:22 PM
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To what end. I am satisfied mentally with the person i have become. I have a good job that has a value. My body is not in great shape but it's not terrible either. I don't see a future where i can attract someone to me by virtue of who i am.. if that was going to happen it would have happened a long time ago. The only reason they would find me worth being with now is because of the perception that the job gives with respect to my earning ability. I would rather not be loved if thats the case I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:52 PM
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If you have no one to support and no hope of finding someon, why would you work a back breaking job at all? Why not just coast through life working at a 7/11
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:15 AM
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No seriously. I made a post about men eventually going to check out because of the advent of VR porn and simulated love. There were a few women on there talking about - you won't be loved like a real woman. It was hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:05 AM
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Overall? No. Most of society isnt. As long as the Zeitgeist remains liberal everything bwill be fine. But once the religious extremism.infiltrated the Zeitgeist and becomes the prevailing thought, men will act as the faceless muscle of the Zeitgeist. Thats our role. Faceless emotionless muscle for society. Sure there will be rebels but even there men will be the muscle. And war is always a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:02 AM
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Usa something like 15 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:12 PM
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Have you seen uprisings ? Fat guys make great meat sheilds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:03 PM
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Yeah but how many will remain in their drug and porn addled haze to lay down and rot. How long before they reach critical mass. We are at a time that is best suited to control the tide but if it fails society is screwed. And it's not the other way around. Boys are not taught that they are important at all. Thats how we are socialised, as a part of a face less mob in defence of what ever needs defending. Short of that young men seek a purpose. Could be anything - family, love, a calling. But when…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:52 PM
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Incel men absolutely can cause the colapse of society. You don't know the sheer terror that a group of young men with nothing worth living for hits 20-30% can bring to bare. Imagine a group of teenagers and boys with barely any facial hair screaming abd whooping while shooting at you and dancing fortnite dances over your dead body. This is the point at which revolutions and coups occur. Pray that these guys self medicate with porn and videogames and simply unalive themselves one after the other.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:40 PM
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There is a guy on the sex offenders list for grabing a middle schooler by the arm because she almost walked in front of his car on a busy road.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:34 PM
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Oh ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:30 PM
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Money is fun to have by default. Women are attracted by experiences after all - and money helps you have those experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:29 AM
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Dude if sucking dick could be done with no homo, there is no point of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:22 AM
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I can't speak for others but me personally ? I would have been pretty low maintenance. I am very much a "whatever is good for you honey!" Kinda guy although it seems that it is seen as lack of leading or initiative. Not that i could truely give a shit. But at the end of the day you can't really tell me that the scenario mentioned above of the saviour for the chronically unlucky in love women is any better for me either... Along with the baggage of all those failed relationships and poor or outri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:38 PM
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How are they different? They all sound like synonyms of each other
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:07 PM
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Honestly the PDP fantasy is finding somone in college who likes you before you have established yourself and supports your dreams while you support hers and together you come to a place where you can enjoy your life with each other. Not full on struggle love, but definitely the shared history if backing each other up when shit is not pleasant. I would literally give up my left nut for a relationship like that. I don't know about the others but even as a 30 yr old virgin doctor i don't look forwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:01 PM
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Yeah man. Yours is the textbook example what what you should not encourage. Good that you broke up with her. I am sorry that she had enough of your mindspace to fuck you up like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:41 PM
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This is more and more common now and hidden behind buzzwords like exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:35 PM
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I would never. I know most guys would never. But a fair number would.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:33 PM
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If one women thinks that you are good enough to sleep with surely many women thinking you are good enough to sleep with is better. I definitely think that if you were put in an environment where everyone was actively hostile to you and any of your post and photos on social media got no likes you would not be able to deal with it at all. Add to that nearly every guy is repulsed by you and getting them to sleep with you becomes a dance to prove your utility compared to other women (or atleast the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:17 PM
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Society reinforces this. They have made it difficult for men to find validation in any other way, not through life, or friends. The only source of validation for heterosexual men is women. This is what makes men behave like puppies as you put it, because by spending time with him and giving him what he has been told he must have to be a complete man or a successful man you have validated his existence as nit being a waste. This is why virgins get taken over by so much rage. Because they know tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:13 PM
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Imagine growing up in a society that actively acts against you as you grow up and treats you like a threat. Because you are. You are denied emotional validation from girls and other boys because you need to be strong - basically in their minds most teens are lone wolves. And through socialisation and movies and basically the world around us we know that the only way to find that emotional validation is through a relationship with a girl. Along the way the values get confused and relationship wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:02 PM
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Well yeah. But the world is built for extroverts. Adapt or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:37 PM
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It's easy to fake being interested. Basically you roleplay as a labrador. As an introvert it is exhausting but possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:56 PM
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The women who will let shitty behaviour slide are more likely to sleep with them. I think it is a vetting process.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:41 AM
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Hearing you say relax is the funniest thing on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:38 AM
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And you guys fail with a big L so frequently it's not even funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:33 AM
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The nuance being gendered perception of behaviour. The woman trying to prevent the man's act of going elsewhere. The man being jealous that another man will take the woman away ... This is insane. You are giving no agency to the woman and hyperagency to the man. She can chose to be with someone else and the jealousy will come in . Somone else can hit on her man and the jealousy will be there. Never seen a woman so eager to hamstring her own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:31 AM
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Thats because you look for those reactions. I see men demonising men more than men calling women immoral. Although women are immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:27 AM
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You are talking in circles. The fears are basically the same with the difference only being in the perceived agency of men and women. When you normalise fir the fact that both are human beings with wills it's basicaly the fear of losing somone. Essentially the same. You are just trying to make it sound different based on gendered perception of behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:25 AM
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Why would respect be the baseline when she hasn't done jack shit to earn it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:21 AM
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Been treating women like people all my life. I have great coworkers and some friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:20 AM
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Oh please. You are just setting them up to fail. Dont be anything other than the loser you are that way we can reject you at first sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:19 AM
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You are in disagreement with your sisters on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:17 AM
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I happen to be concerned about the ones who are, seeing as i was one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:43 PM
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I look forward to your reaction when the person you try to seduce refuses your advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:50 PM
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Contentment with what you can get depends on the knowledge of what can be had. I think men should be educated on what can be had and encouraged not to settle nor guilted for leaving if they don't receive it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:38 PM
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They don't know that they are unhappy. They think that's all there is. I had the fortune of being pursued by a girl, once. A hottie too. She gave me insight on what it's like when a girl wants to be with you ... None of my friends, know what that's like and have for most of their life slogged after relationships.... To say that they deserve what they get is no different than saying that women deserve the no effort users they end up with It is cruel and mean spirited But you are cuckedalt so what…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:32 PM
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Obviously yes Most of the time they wouldn't have the awareness to know that they are being used. They will swallow the speil of - "i was wild when i was young but i didn't know any better now i do." " I was very promiscuous when i was young and down for anything but i felt used so now i am only comfortable with this kind of sex" It may be true but it requires verification. Are you getting the sex you want? Is she down to try anything new with you? In the frequency you want? Does she priorities …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:22 PM
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Thats fine. It behoves us to tell the stability guy to look for signs of being used for his stability. Letting them figure out if the woman sees him or the life she can have with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:15 PM
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But it should matter. I wouldn't ever date the classic mean girl. I wouldn't ever date somone who bullied somone else. Any girl capable of employing mean girl tactics is a red flag. Any guy treating other guys like shit is a red flag. This is not controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:51 PM
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Not really. Plenty of people complaining about it have been called incel and worse. And in general i raise this point because that insane line keeps getting showed down our throats. In the insane world that is the dating landscape where women continually run head long into carcrashes with these men with more red flags than USSR, they still have the gall to call goodness the bare minimum. By their actions they make it not so. I don't think anyone raising that point is saying that they want to fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:27 PM
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People who are good guys don't complain about dating, relationships and sex. The men who do complain are niceguys. Fuck Niceguys. /S
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:15 PM
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You forget that with this kind of thought process she is likely to weaponize sex or use it as a treat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:11 PM
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You do you man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:10 PM
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Listen all of that is valid. But that is your insecurity to deal with. This lady has been pulling this shit for 9 months. 9 months. Now if she was a virgin and was intent on walking the virgins road up until marriage, i would have said fine. Even then i think the guy should break up. She has had casual sex before, so the religious aspect can be chucked right off the bat. And if she has suddenly found religion by all means she should be with another religious born again virgin man. But in this ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:08 PM
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Yours dosent even come to the same ballpark.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:55 PM
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Are you being obtuse on purpose? Is it possible to be this dense or are you just trying to piss me off? The only thing that the uniform achives is the ability to attend school. Passing is dependent on studying and the teacher accepting your responses and work as reasonable or correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:43 PM
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Again. Putting on the uniform ensures you don't get sent home. If you can go to school without a uniform the uniform no longer matters. Find a better example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:35 PM
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As someone else put it, when you say that something is the bare minimum, you expect the person who doesn't exhitbit said characteristic to have any kind of success in that dimensions. When it is time and time again proven wrong, your words calling it the bare minimum become worthless. When putting on the uniform you ensure not being sent back home. If someone can come to school in their day clothes and get by without any demerits, that kinda defeats the purpose of a uniform.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:33 PM
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Come on... Thats not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:22 PM
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Yes. Because he treats her better that he treats the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:20 PM
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Academic intrest is a thing. Right now it's just morbid curiosity. Changing women behaviour was never the goal. That would be clear if you actually read the last comment instead of hate posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:09 PM
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I can extrapolate and discuss dating dynamics without having a vested interest one way or the other. The existence of the phrase "bare minimum" irks me. If the goal was to change women's behaviour then surely this is the worst way to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:03 PM
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I don't think you understand how little that affects me. I am concerned with how i see myself first and foremost. I absolutely cannot compromise on that. I don't have hate. I have exasperation and irritation. I have a job that means more to other people who i interact with. To the point if i simply do good there, my life will have meaning. That has to be enough. If it isn't, I'll get a cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:59 PM
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They are my standards to enforce. I am not gonna fold just for the promise of some woman (or man, let's be real) finding me acceptable. I have lived for 30 years without companionship, i can live 30 more. For better or worse this is who i am. I won't betray myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:52 PM
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I think that with a sizable number how they treat other (lesser) men gives a decent indication of charecter. I think many women ignore that because he is nice to them at that moment. You want someone who will treat you fairly even if they think less of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:51 PM
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Agreed. Dating is sales. Relationship is diplomacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:49 PM
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Who is approaching you? And i will if i want to. You and your malediction mean nothing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:35 PM
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So let them. At this point i am content living my entire life without knowing what it's like to be in a relationship. I do well enough on my own. I have my hands full keeping myself on an even keel adding a woman to that mix is less likely not benifit me in anyway shape or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:32 PM
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I would put it at 10-20 %
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:26 PM
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Get some help for what? Being a feminist? I mean congratulations.... I don't know what i am supposed to do with that. You have not abandoned your resentment of women. It’s readily apparent. If there is any then it's at myself for my stupidity and for beleiving my parents and my sister and society at large for lying about what i should be like. It was all there, readily apparent, if i had just paused to think for a minute. I have made the decision to be the same person regardless but atleast i wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:24 PM
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Men do it too. The fantasy of being the provider is strong in many.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:12 PM
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I am not gonna claim to be a good person because that's an exercise in futility. I know i do not hurt other because of ample past incidents and opertunity to do so. And maybe i resented women a while back but that's no longer the case when i realised that i was mostly held back by my own standard of behaviour and expectations from the other person. Knowing that that was on me took away a lot of the resentment. That being said, i think you have been hurt by someone and that causes you to look for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:11 PM
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It's definitely a component of the drive to get married. If it wasn't a social expectation the number of people doing it would reduce. Thats the case right now with reducing rates of marriage given the reduced social pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:56 AM
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Are you seriously saying that there is no one who operates this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:49 AM
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Like i said. It was not about putting her in her place and more about making my intentions clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:47 AM
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I mean... Not to me. I am sure she is attractive to others, especially to my friend. And she was not fugly or anything.. but nothing so stand out that i found her attractive. I just didn't want to be thought off as a creep. Looking back i should have ignored it... But i did care about others perception of me and didn't have enough social nuance in how to counter that...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:44 AM
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They say it like that. Don't make a goddamn catch phrase That loses all meaning. Or say something like "you can do everything right and still lose" That is infinitely less condescending. It's even supportive. ' Being nice is the baseline ' bring a whole different vibe to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:41 AM
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Hey man, to me it's straight forward. Bring worshipped in a relationship is better than being abused and sure maybe pedastalising gets old but it is miles better than abuse. Between the bad boy and the nice guy the choice should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:39 AM
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What you attest to is what is a desirable out come. What i attest to is the undesirable outcome. In any decent system the desirable outcome should be an order of magnitude more common than the undesirable outcome. That is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:36 AM
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Thats not what i am saying. I am just saying that being a good guy isn't the baseline and no one should pretend that it is. Miles from what you are implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:31 AM
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So a bad review is better than no review? As long as the bad review is more attractive ... Is that what you are saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:27 AM
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It's also used when a guy says something like. " I am a decent dude. I have a job, i have savings and i treat people like i wish to be treated. Compared to that Harry is an asshole deadbeat, who regularly abuses everyone he is with. I know i am not a catch but surely i should be able to do better than Harry " And to be honest it is bewildering. And yet it plays out as said above. And half the replies on the advice sub will be "it's is the baseline" I agree. It should be the baseline... But how i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:24 AM
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No. Just flabbergasted that the obviously poor pick are constantly chosen and that they are never given the chance to be what they know they could be. To be a decent dude in a mutually supportive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:18 AM
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Plenty of us can attest to it in our own personal lives. So in this case there is congruence between online anecdotes and reallife examples. Online anecdotes are pretty extreme sometimes, I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:14 AM
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Agreed. Buts that's not what's played out in the real world. In such a situation calling it "bare minimum" is facetious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:12 AM
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Then bring more nuance to the discussion than simply saying that it is the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:08 AM
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But by world standard it's not the bare minimum is it? I mean a weather proofed house is the bare minimum... But If you are constantly picking half finished apartments and tents pitched on fields over a home with four walls and a roof then that is no longer the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:06 AM
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But surely they have enough social context to know how these people behave. In schools and colleges my friends and i noted that women seemed to go for boys who treated us poorly and could get away with it. Maybe that implies social clout, but surely a person inclined to mistreat somone who they feel is beneath them is more likely to mistreat you? Does the 'how he treats the waiter test' not fly here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:04 AM
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See now thats an acceptable definition of bare minimum. It's even ok to call goodness the 'aspirational bare minimum ' But it is sure as hell not worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:00 AM
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That maybe validated in their worldview but it is not how i operate. I simply treat people like i want to be treated. I remember trying to engage with a girl that my friend was wooing because i wanted to have a decent relationship with her if we were gonna hang out more frequently. She confessed to my friend that she thought that i was a creep and would never fall for me. ... Which is fine... But the astronomical level of self importance she must have to belive i was hitting on her really threw …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:58 AM
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It's not about ever being nice, but being consistently mindful of the other person as a person deserving of respect. That takes a different kind of person. Even a narcisistic would agree that they are nice to their partners from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:48 AM
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But being ugly or dumb or asocial has and expected cost within a relationship. The perception is that being a good person should have a good effect on your dating life. It doesn't. It may pay off dividends in the relationship, may not. But in justifying past choice some women make the vocal declaration that being nice is the bare minimum. Which is laughable. But it is catchy enough to be troted out like ' my body my choice ' without any nuance. I just seek to establish that, it has a value. Mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:40 AM
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Plenty of people do say it On this sub and any other dating sub or relationship sub. It's become a bit of a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:04 AM
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I don't understand your point? Being good or nice is the bare minimum. Evidently not going by women own accounts of their terrible relationships recounted on many subs. Definitely not in my experience. it's not enough to feel entitled for a relationship? And people that are not nice or good are still able to get into relationships because they offer something else? What is it that they offer? Just clarify for the rest of us in the back. People say "being nice is the bare minimum" if you have not…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:49 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:54 AM
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For nesting. To have the house with the white picket fence and 2.5 children. It's a common enough dream on both sides to the point that the person you are with is just a maniquin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:48 AM
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Anything nand everything not deny yourself agency in your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:43 AM
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What do they offer me now that they didn't offer me back then? Am i supposed to be impressed ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:07 PM
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So it would habe been better if they lashed out at the people who caused their social isolation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:20 AM
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Nope. People do whats easy with what is available. Building bombs is more labour intensive and.a multiman.effirt to make with any sophistication The kill count will be lower too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:15 AM
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By that reaction you ensure there will be more scumbag to shoot those kids down. I don't doubt that this will all come full circle when one of these survivors come and conduct one by themselves. Ban your damn guns and take care of your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:46 AM
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I am.not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:44 AM
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Self destruction Suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:38 AM
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Back when i was a broke college student ? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:38 AM
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Yes. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:52 PM
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All dogs are good boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:19 PM
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Look i am trying to be possitive and encourage the men on this sub to embrace life with more zest but your post low key gave me a set back. I am none of the things you mentioned. Or rather it is not apparent. And i am not willing to parade myself around in full plate armour for a chance to do it either. I mean the possibility of being alone for ever scares me and makes me sad. But the reality that i have to fake who i am indefinitely isn't all that palatable either. From childhood to death, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:17 PM
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Honestly planning on getting one. My senior (a friend) died in a train accident, nothing was left to recognise him by. I figured if i get a large on over my torso or back it would be easy to identify me if something happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:08 PM
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Wasn't talking to you bleb.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:42 PM
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Nothing wrong with sexting a coworker in the right context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:41 PM
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I thought that you were simply taking the piss but you are lowkey wholesome dude. Wish you were my friend here in real life. We could have wingmened each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:31 PM
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Thats certainly not all of us. Personally i know that most of my friends give a damn about the people they sleep with. Ofcourse most of them are in happy relationships now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:23 PM
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Litter is also a group of puppies birthed in the same birth. Thats where the term comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:18 PM
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Is it the man's fault if he has no idea what a good relationship is? Would you blame a woman with low self esteem and zero life experience for dating a trash ass man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:17 PM
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Do you consider yourself normal? If you do, maybe you can consider that some percentage of men on here are normal or atleast normal adjacent. If you don't consider yourself normal, well maybe you ought to work on your self before your next relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:14 PM
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Why would you call all of us bottom feeders?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:12 PM
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Your name is peak cinema. Get educated noob. Matoko shinkai is without a doubt on Scorcese level.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:01 PM
-1

Nothing wrong with porn adicts. The more self aware ones can be great friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:59 PM
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I wanted to belive women weren't shallow and yet they seem to be more interested in me as a doctor than in me when i was in college. So here we are. We do the best with what we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:58 PM
0

Doesn't mean that you could weed through them to get what you want. Ofcourse location and other things being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:56 PM
7

I agree that that would be the result but i reject this advice on a purely moral basis. I would much rather remain celibate and honest rather than lie and get laid. Virgin or not i need to live with myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:52 AM
7

Men have not really got a defined role beyond provider. Not being one or being a dad by a certain age will impact them negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:11 AM
3

I understand the argument. It is difficult to get famous It is difficult to get girls. Work on being famous. If it works 2 birds with one stone. It's nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:56 PM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:51 PM
7

Most of the posts on here counter your example pretty well. I would much rather be the 37 year old single guy than the married guy whose wife messages "i love you" while she fucks the younger version of that 37 yera old.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:24 PM
9

A low value guy is a virgin. Not somone who had sex and us able to get it. It means that he is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:11 PM
30

Not the point, is it? We don't know if you like us for us or for the resources we provide. It doesn't help that the guy who provides resources generally is the guy who gets rules made for. (3months of dates before they make it official and have sex) Men want to be desired, men want to be wanted and the only incontrovertible indication we have of that is your willingness to have sex with us. In general the timing of sex matters partly but acts as more of an indicator If she is more restrained wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:09 PM
1

I am such a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:15 PM
6

That kinda the point though. They have to be agressively optimistic because only of they do something will anything happen. If we just waited around for women most men would die virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:08 PM
1

Could you like just go away. What did you even contribute with that comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:06 PM
1

Virgin and by the looks of it waiting for marriage. Or rather the sun the stars and the moon to align.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:59 PM
1

Hello
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:54 PM
1

It's likely that she will let religion guide how she has sex too. No more anal. No more oral too. Missionary sex fir life with maybe a doggy if she wants it now and then. Not to mention the constant catholic guilt of having too much fun and not bring a proper lady. Marriage is fun with sensible people, not with people who wear chastity belts the keys of which belong to the Allfather.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:52 PM
0

Fuck him then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:48 PM
2

Your duty as his friend is to take him on a getaway and brainwash him into breaking up with her. If she was a virgin that's ok, This is unacceptable. Fuck her. Or rather don't. Break them up. You friend will blame himself in the future, save his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:41 PM
1

How is this controversial?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:25 AM
1

Yes i feel the desire of people to help me achieve more happiness when they berate me for my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:12 AM
0

It's not a concious decision. It's just subconsciously affect how much their choice as good enough when there is not love involved or if it simply makes sense because the guy has a good job and. Is nice enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:38 PM
1

I am not gonna sit and. Explain ABC to you. Figure it out yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:34 PM
1

So if i dont have that i should just roll over and die. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:27 PM
2

Could you just stop! Everytime I see your advice it's so devoid of anything worth reading and yet i read it and get triggered. I spent 9 years away from my home in a job that sucks out all my personal time. What the fuck am i supposed to do. I try this at my church and it tanks my ability to get a decent arranged marriage match. The world is not like your ecosystem everywhere. Don't look down on men who try what they can. At the very least they are trying? What the fuck do women do to make thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:26 PM
1

Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:09 PM
8

Because we don't know what intrest looks like. Many men get stuck in abusive relationships for the same reason. They don't know what a healthy relationship looks like Is that their fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:05 PM
4

It doesn't matter if i am cool with it. That is the world i live in. I can't fight it. I can't argue with it. If you guys fear us nothing i do or say can change that. I fear your insincerity and your inability to be true to yourself. I don't want to be married and divorced 10 years down the line with a 'i never loved you' That to me is unacceptable. So i will do what i can to avoid that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:04 PM
2

On my side? As in concerned about my worth as a human being. Concerned about how i feel and how a break up changes myself worth. Concerned about me.as a victim in an abusive relationship. I see none of that support anywhere. And the only one who can reassure me that what i did was right or tell me that i was full of shit, unfortunately is me and maybe a few of my friends. Others and people on the internet will never have my best interest at heart when giving me advice, therefore all the vetting …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:00 PM
1

Counter As a submissive man i find that i should constantly mask myself as my predelictions are found to be turnoffs. I don't understand why a guy worshiping your body now and again would be a problem for most women but thats the way it is. So the road is hard on both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:54 PM
5

Exactly. Basically what i am saying is that when the relationship crashes if the guy whines about it they are chastised because they should have known batter. Invariably it has been the case in my experience. It doesn't matter if the guy in question was inexperienced. Even the inexperience is his fault. Therefore any steps we take to protect ourselves is OK. Because no one, not even you is on our side.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:52 PM
7

How do they know these men are mysoginistic. I didn't realise they came with stamps on the forehead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:50 PM
4

No . I am saying that women's generalizations are fine. I can't argue with them without seeming like a mysoginist. However on that same vein this argument is fine too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:49 PM
2

Is that suprising?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:47 PM
7

Information asymmetry. Most men are raised with blue pill ideals that they have to be the drivers of all romantic interaction. Dating with them being the initiator is the normal. Women not being intrested is the norm with no man ever really questioning it until they have experienced reciprocity. Many never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:44 PM
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People already do Women constantly go on and on about how unsafe they feel while the go ahead and have dates with strangers on tinder and onenightstands. Men are expected to take that in stride. Complaining about it leads to comments like - misogynist and 'you will never understand because you are not a woman. So just take it in stride. The fact that we can't really trust you guys when you say something like 'i love you' when your actions don't match up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:36 PM
4

It isn't true until it is. And then it's your fault because as the more inexperienced party you simply should have known
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:34 PM
2

What you have described is abuse. I don't want to be with someone so broken that i have to abuse her to convince her to respect me enough to want to have uninhibited sex with me .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:26 PM
3

Because they want to prove that they are desirable enough to be hitched. Nit to the men specifically but to herself her friends and her mom. There is the stereotype that women care more about the wedding tha ln life post marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:24 PM
4

Why do you do this? Are you that threatened by anecdotes that go counter to your expectations? Do you truely belive that women are incapable of deceit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:21 PM
4

It's a nightmare. Wether or not it's made up or a legitimate fear is debateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:20 PM
13

Caustic as ever. Never the womans fault, am i right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:16 PM
10

No worries man. At this point i am just turned off from the idea of dating and marriage. Personally i blame the Marilyn Monroe earworm (don't accept me at my worst etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:01 PM
11

I was told that basically all my life. By my mom. My sister, my female friends. I thought that was a good thing. It's coming true now. All it does is push me further away from women. I am a doctor by the way I became one by shunning my social life in my twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:25 PM
8

If that's your take away you are not here in Good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:34 PM
18

No no, i am certain they had Worked on their internal selves Had oodles of confidence They were kind and nice - after all it's the bArE MiNiMuM
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:15 AM
11

Oh what a loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:33 AM
6

I think gaining social skills as a late bloomer is useful when interacting with strangers. If you can leave a good impression on a stranger then you can do it with people you know. The consequences.for bombing with people you know is much worse than with total strangers. It can get back to the social circle and brand you with the mark of creep worsening your chances overall. Cold approach to develope indifference to rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:39 PM
5

This is actually it. This is exactly what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:45 AM
6

Because this is the world we came into. We can't change anything. And bring the beta male being settled for sucks. The only thing you can do is try and equalise the sexual difference if you can.by becoming the guy who thes women want to fuck. At least then when you do decide to settle the woman will be with you as the first choice rather than a final option. Or if marriage is not an option fucking without settling is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:43 AM
2

Such bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:40 PM
1

Isnt it natural.for you to be worried about yourself than a random man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:07 PM
4

You implied it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:28 PM
19

Oh like Facebook surfing, posting on Instagram and watching TV produces something tangible. Your father bring able to make things is nice and all but i doesn't impinge the validity of more "useless" hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:26 PM
3

I honestly don't think so I mean they might think it to be true, but the countless examples of people saving their loved ones have been of men more often than not dieing in the process I don't think i have ever read an example of a woman sheilding her husband from danger. They may be out there but in far less frequency When i consider it ... I can't help but be nauseated by men's role in society. Is that what we exist for? To live and be discarded, used in service of others forever giving more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:49 PM
7

Belive me, if i could change my orientation i would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:40 PM
3

At least you are consistent with your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:39 PM
2

I do. But i think it's rare. To the point that everyone knows that one couple but in reality that kinda thing is something that you can only hope to aspire to. Love depends on the actions of both sides to nurture it. I could be perfect, but i fully expect my partner to drop the ball somewhere along the way. I also think that people dangle the possibility of it to get others to do things they wouldn't normally do. So there is that Basically you are looking for an oasis in a desert full of maraude…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:36 PM
2

Doubt it. The judges haven't really died out. If they can have bullshit opinions.like Roe vs wade needs to be repealed then they can have opinions like "A man's act deserves a man's consequences"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:48 PM
5

Usa is not a civilized nation?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:23 PM
12

She wanted the child unilaterally. She got the child with acts that negated the bio dads consent. She is not entitled to his child support. The govt may assist her but garnish her wages for the support amount for 18 years after the child reaches maturity. Naturally this impacts her ability to retire or to have a larger family but thats the consequence of child support on men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:22 PM
0

I have seen it happen frequently enough that it's not bullshit to me. The women seem to love their partners well enough but it's almost paternalistic in its execution. A sense of what he doesn't know wont hurt him. Which to me is not the hallmark of a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:25 PM
1

And is it their fault? Or is the fault of the more experienced partner for masking their intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:29 PM
3

It's not easy for someone who hasn't had much romantic experience to know whether or not they are being played.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:10 PM
8

So that you can mock me and tell me it's all my fault? About how what i was doing was the bare minimum while i saw fucking predators around me get with all these people who they definitely didn't respect? Fuck that. We are strangers on the internet take my word for it or fuck off. Just know that women especially younger ones are acctualy pretty shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:49 PM
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Women's . Generally yes. For all the good that it did me. Only now i realised i fucked myself. In every relationship she thought about herself and i thought about her. No one was thinking about me. I should have thought about me. We would have ended up splitting the difference like normal people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:42 PM
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It was a good read. He was doing pretty well back in the day. A lot of his conversation about women are infantalising. But the way he writes about his experience is pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:15 PM
3

You should try and.read the game and no more.mistwr nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:09 PM
13

Agreed, women dont have your best interests at heart
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:08 PM
3

Yeah .... Thats what animals do when they are dying. I don't think deers cry out while they are eating grass you know. Plus there is the fact that every idiot including me and you has access to the internet to make our wholely unneeded impressions known to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:16 PM
1

As long as you don't catch a public indecency charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:06 PM
1

It's an alternate veiw point to consider. If enough men adopt it as a behaviour it could set a new standard. Problem is the kind of men who use porn to cope are also too demotivated to do much beyond existing. But hey, at least they are not out looting and rioting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:04 PM
1

How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:01 PM
1

Consider it the dying cries of a slain beast.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:58 PM
1

VR man. the future is vr. We will all be humping air soon enough. I imagine dick Consoles would be a little too weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:56 PM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/t8jlox/vr_porn_is_gonna_be_a_global_level_cataclysm_and/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:49 PM
2

Well, atleast you are consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:44 PM
4

There are women who insist on their own biological offspring. The demand is enough that it created an entire field of reproductive medicine where the goal is to get a child with your genetic material even in unfavorable circumstances. Would you call all those women narcissistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:39 PM
0

This is the biggest lol comment i have seen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:11 PM
2

Why do you have to do that? Guy was riding a decent high.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:59 PM
1

Opening up is not the problem. I garauntee you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:51 PM
4

Bullshit. Patent bullshit Plenty of women reject guys if they are virgins into their late 20s. They wonder why he has never been loved before or had sex because thats so much easier. They don't want to have to teach him basic shit. It ruins the image of capable man in their heads
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:49 PM
1

He is just going off the responses in the other thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:40 PM
5

Better than no one's anyone. The attention you despise would be manna from.heaven.for us. However being courted and settled for once you habe a good job is a different kind of pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:37 PM
4

what women want is irrelevant because the relationship wont happen if they dont want it to happen. isnt that obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:38 PM
1

you think too highly of your own gender
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:04 AM
1

Relationally maybe. But they do rally with each other about common problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:08 PM
4

Because women don't care about men as much as they care about other women. And men don't care about men as much as they care about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:05 PM
1

That's because pretending to be someone else is... inauthentic. Opening yourself up to new experiences is a good thing Date introverted women. Oh. Thats so simple. They can be found without going out and talking can they? Where to introverts hang then? Libraries? Bookstores ? Ok let's go! But wait talking to them there is harassment! And talking to them atall is so outside my comfort zone as an introvert. And seeing as women are doing a piss poor job of being proactive, it fall on the introverte…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:38 PM
3

I am sorry if men are out there wasting 2 months of her life at a time. While we are on the topic let's ignore the complete losers abd deadbeats who they waste years on. Oh no.thats not worse at all. Suck it up. They have their own minds. They can take responsibility for their lives. Isn't that what you tell men who get divorced and taken for everything they have? That they should have vetted better? If we are introverted we are blamed for not doing enough by you lot. If we try to be a bit more …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:25 PM
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We don't sympathise because you don't sympathise. We dont give a shit. About each other. To the point that we treat each other like shit. And then women come into our spaces, which is fine, but they can't take the abuse so they force changes and everyone loses their minds changing fir these poor women. What the fuck were we? Chopped liver?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:06 PM
3

We have a near existential fear of being beaten and killed. Not raped for sure. It hits harder when people we know die by their own hand. A senior of min got hit by a train. Dobt know if he meant for it to happen. Had to go ID the body. Wassnt right fir a few days. In an effort to try and prevent self destructive behaviour i indulged in self destructive behaviour It's ubiquitous enough that we ignore it. Every now and again it cones back up. It reminded me of a friend who took his life 2 years a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:03 PM
2

Thats kind of the point. Confidence is teachable. Outgoing personalities can be faked and become a necessity in any job much less dating. They have to disociate the fear from the rejection. They have to realise that it's ok to fail. That it's ok to feel like a fool. All you are advocating for is for them to stay in their safe bubble and then berate them when they complain that they don't have any luck with women saying that they have nothing going for them It's hard to take you seriously because…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:52 PM
1

Vulnerable men are put through nthe gauntlet enough by women themselves. I have seen them be cruel . I habe been on the receiving end. The best thing men can do is to become unmoved by it. Even sales people get shut down frequently before they can make a sale. You think thats unfair? And that's what dating is... Sales. You have to make the other person belive that you are valuable. Even if you are objectively a catch, it doesn't matter if you can't convey that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:30 PM
1

But if you do it within your circles as someone without a lot of socialisation, you could just spread the social stigma of being a creep. You should expect to fail in cold approaches. Learning to develop charm to tilt an interaction with a stranger to nuetral is a skill in and off it self. It will definitely help with the warm approaches. It's the basis of exposure therapy. Expose yourself to stress enough number of times that it becomes normal. Especially useful for nervous disaffected young me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:11 PM
1

You have to find a way to cope. Thats all it is .it could be any excuse. After that after it does not matter to you anymore is when you make changes and experiment with what works
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:07 PM
1

Do you really believe that there is anyone out there without insecurity? We do things to compensate for them all the time. Infact it's perhaps the best way to work on them rather than wallowing in your own self pity. I already know that i am unattractive. I was unsuccessful in school and college, but i was a far better man. But no one gives a shit. Now I have a stable job. The kind that people study for years for a chance to get into and now womenare intrested. Never mind that the person i am no…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:00 PM
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Because as we are everything sucks. I live in a country where we get married by families. I have maintained a level of social clout by the social perception of being kind, well behaved, non smoking or drinking, doctor etc. My parents are known as pillars of the community. Basically we have social capital. All that's left is to accumulate wealth. Basically i am a big fish. And i can land somone on my level. But i will always feel like somone who was seen as a resource. I want to get good at datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:41 PM
1

It would but eventually you get to a point of indifference. Thats the point. And it's easy to rationalise the rejection, they don't know you after all. A rejection is worse from a friend because they know you and still don't want you. With cold approach even the most successful closers only get the number 10% of the time. The point is to get to al level where you can project confidence and charm and to be indifferent to rejection. With men we are socialized into brutalising our own emotions, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:16 PM
2

Far easier to bomb with and later burn relationships with strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:11 PM
4

I think cold approach has its place. If you are an inexperienced man then cold approach is better because you will bomb, frequently. The idea is to sociopathically develop a thick skin to rejection and the opinion of others to the point that you can be your own self or maintain a set mindset inspite of it. Basically it expands your comfort zone. If you get good and ingratiating your self to a complete stranger then you will naturally have a better read on situations involving warm approaches. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:51 AM
2

Because most women don't like to be treated like men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:42 AM
1

And yet no one offer them. Hence why PUA is so famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:57 PM
1

If i go out into the city? An indian city ? Easily about 10-15 % 30-50% that i would want to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:53 PM
1

Celebrities are an obvious exception. Celebrity land runs on insanity logic. No rules make sense here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:49 PM
0

There will be a lot of answers like - i would be impressed. We could bond over makeup tips. The honest reaction will be disgust. Just like guys would have when they see a woman do this. It would be more pronounced since the act of putting on makeup is not masculine coded.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:55 PM
7

That sounds wonderful. So where do I meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:37 AM
2

Just don't have piv sex dude. Blowjobs and cunilingus are pretty main stream.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:07 PM
5

For people like you any one who breaths is a creep. At this point worrying about that term is a detriment. It can be the first part of the assignment. Learn to approach strangers without looking like a creep. I am getting better at that atleast.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:37 PM
1

Sure they can. The grind can be gamified.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:36 PM
3

Market yourself. A woman saying that you being the nicest person is important to her is kidding herself. If being nice was sexy then MLK Jr would be considered a sex symbol. Be the kind of guy girls want to hook up with and marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:34 PM
10

Society doesn't give a fuck about him. Why should he care about society?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:13 PM
3

Her aborting Is more about her than you. With the restriction on abortion atleast you know that if there is a child you are on the hook and not be in some Schrodingers state of dadhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:12 PM
2

I think it is essentially an ego defence. If some girl throws herself at me and i belive it is love? I would crash and simp.hard. And she would fuck me over and i would be left worse off. You live and learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:07 PM
7

This is such a bullshit line.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:03 PM
2

No danger of that here. I am as non traditional as they come
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:04 PM
2

It's not always the case. But there are times when it seems pretty disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:47 PM
11

Me apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:08 AM
7

Women are too much work though. If it wasn't fir the social pressures and to some degree internal longing for love i would have given up long ago
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:03 AM
8

Yeah. i don't think that's a thing. I think if men date it's the people they have exposure to. If they are hanging out with employees of MNC they will date them. If they hang around models they will date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:00 AM
2

That changes things
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:05 AM
1

Financial security. The kind that doesn't go away even worth a divorce. Thats would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:38 PM
1

Other people and their opinions font do jack shit to my life . People may mock me if i get married not an heiress calling me the house husband but i will be eating caviar in a Bently so idgaf. Thats the idea anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:34 AM
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Lady, i i was attractive enough and charming enough to set up shop in someone else's life i would do it. Especially if that meant i could be a house husband. You guys have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:39 AM
9

Oh the tragedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:37 AM
1

As opposed to the younger women we are supposedly trying to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:50 PM
3

You say it like the other women would give a fuck otherwise Some men respond to demand. They others give up. Even more luck into it but stop persuing out of spite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:15 PM
0

Almost spite fully wishing it to happen even if it means i would die as well. Aslong as 50 % women die single and left behind. That would be insane!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:34 PM
0

He is punishing the ones who treat him poorly with mediocre sex. How is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:26 PM
1

I love how you guys keep going that he just wants sex and he is just bring wholesome going - she has got a great personality. I would be thrilled to habe her as my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:22 PM
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Un-ironically he does. He has a good vibe. Is not like me or the other on here. She would have a good time if she went out with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:18 PM
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I think he like most guys isn't fuckzoning her but is interested in finding out if they can make it last. You know?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:16 PM
1

External validation does matter though. You may be a shitty surgeon. Beliveing you are the best makes no difference to your mortality rate. It's impossible to belive that you have value as a sexual being if literal no one wants any part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:50 AM
4

Do it anyway. You can do 2 things at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:38 AM
1

Validation. 'If she sleeps with me i am not so terrible ' - probably
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:58 AM
3

Well how do you know he will have anxiety? how do you know that he won't? It's common enough. Kids develop anxiety because of their parents. Multifactorial. Could be anything. You could lose your economic security. He could feel the insecurity of not being able to buy the shit the other kids have and that could lead him to keeping himself apart. Later getting back into it becomes difficult with time. Anxiety developes. This is one unlikely, but possible. Anxiety can occur in any way shape or for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:49 AM
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You can't predict that. What are you gonna do train him to the beats of dudebro? You can influence him upto age 3, beyond that it's all his friends and the world. If he is of the nerdish bent and emotionally open teenage years are gonna be hard. If he has anxiety it will be worse. As a young adult he will equate his worth to wether or not he had a girlfriend, sure you can love him, but you are his mom, you are supposed to love him. Given enough time without a romantic contact he is gonna be just…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:21 AM
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Jesus Christ. Do you have a husband? Do you habe a kid? Do me a favor if you ever get pregnant abort the male one. You obviously don't like men as a sex. I worry bout the psychological damage that you will inflict upon your child. If it is a girl, fuck that, it changes nothing.one more harpy added to the swarm. A broken man? Is a painful thing to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:04 AM
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Thats kinda bullshit. It's like telling that women back in the day deserve to be opressed abd ignored because they did jack shit. They are in a marriage. 50% control over the steering wheel should be the default. If i am gonna get married, i don't want to be with a harpy who thinks she is doing me a favor. Why the fuck is she married to me then? I would make it my life's mission to be the better parent and then.divorce her if she doesn't respect me. You are up here projecting marriage as some fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:51 AM
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If it was easy everybody would be doing it. I found myself in a position to do so and found myself sickened. I didn't and preserved my honour and I hate myself for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:31 PM
2

Do they have happy marriages, or do their wives treat them like they are disposable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:16 PM
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I think it's more of a time and place kinda thing. Not many women get hit on by lesbians so when one comes along it's like - let's see what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:50 PM
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Girls get curious apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:35 PM
0

Thats just malicious man. I think conservatives have it hard. They grow up in an environment where they need to be "men". They fear being replaced by somone better. The rascist ones fear being replaced by black men because of the stereotype of black men bring bigger. If the stereo type was Asians having bigger cocks, they would be worried about them fucking their wife. Cuckold porn just sublimates that fear. In a sucessful re-enactment, the bull fucks your wife but the dynamic between your wife …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:24 PM
5

I imagine that fetish are a subconscious way to work out insecurity and fears. My submissive streak and foot fetish seem to be rooted in low self esteem. A successful session would involve me being told and broken down by my worst self dialogue. And during the aftercare being reminded that nothing has changed, she is still there abd she still loves me. So i get it. Kinda. But even so, i wouldn't make such sweeping generalizations. You are paining all cuckolds with a broad brush, they don't deser…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:10 PM
2

Not inaccurate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:30 PM
8

Fucking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:24 AM
3

I think we should make bitching normal fir men. And then we would have scores of them come out of the wood work describing the "emotional labour" that we have to put in to be rocks in the relationship. We cannot break we cannot crumble. Her problems always get more airtime and ours are ours to deal with. God forbid we open up. Half of you can't even deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:12 AM
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I'll give you my example. I am a good guy. Objectively, qualitatively. On an internal level i am the same person i was 10 years ago. Infact i would characterize myself as worse than i was because i am far less trusting and far more critical and in general bitter. I am getting more attention from women now. The only thing that changed? I am a doctor now. I have a decent salary. I will always have job security and be able to afford a middle class life. How do you think that makes me feel? If i was…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:03 AM
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It's play the game or get left behind. People bitch about having to work for peanuts but do so anyway because they need to survive. Women are landlords in the dating game and can raise their rent and still get people willing to rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:58 AM
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Women wouldn't see us if we didn't. I am the typical wallflower type guy, except i didn't have the friend group that found me in perks of being a wallflower. Guess who is still a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:53 AM
2

If you are dating her then she is atleast attractive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:52 AM
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This will take some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:48 AM
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I think it's because of our life experience. We have been socialize into shutting emotions away. It's useful when there is things to be done. Dwelling on how much you hate a workmate doesn't help when the job needs doing. But then we are also suprised by the intensity of emotions, we are genuinely thrilled when we find we like someone, the greif of losing a friend can hit us hard 15 days down the line. And then we lose it because it's all very new to us. So i guess that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:41 AM
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They have got the right idea. At some point if you are getting depressed and your self worth is being trashed by hanging behave like a dancing monkey, it better to do your own thing. Adopt children if you want. Women are not special.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:28 AM
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Emotional regulation is regularly done by men. Restrain knowing that he stands between his family and poverty. Knowing that he cannot crumble because society abd his wife designated him the rock. And the knowledge that there is a 50 %chance that his wife will lose respect for him if he does break. So .. stfu
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:26 AM
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When applying filters to a search with zero results, you end up with zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:26 PM
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You said you want to "be fun", and part of that is letting go of neuroticism. I don't think you actually want to be fun, you want to be perceived as fun so you can get the things that fun guys get. Isn't that a given? Growing up i had guys who were 'fun' make me the but of jokes. So as a reaction to that i rejected all aspects that associates me with them. Ofcourse they didn't have much trouble getting girls but honestly that says more about the girls than them. Only now as an adult have I seen …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:49 PM
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I generally find that people who talk about their intelligence are limited. But is is fine to be factual about it. Infact i do suffer from some amount of imposter syndrome over my achievements. The fact that we have tests and exams is my only reassurance. I don't want to end up dependent on alcohol as a crutch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:35 PM
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Men go to women. Women have to select. The amount of work is not equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:32 PM
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I am fine with that. And yes hot party girls are definitely not my type. Too self centred for comfort. Gives me flashbacks of people just fucking around and hurting each other like nobody's business.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:20 PM
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And why wouldn't we? Just thinking about it logically - if a woman has pursued men who are nothing like me but choses me because she wants to show someone she can present to her parents then where is the love and attraction? It's no better than a business deal. It's more nefarious because idiots like me will believe it is real. If a girl had consistently gone for guys like me it would make sense but tastes don't change over night and i do not wish to be used as a bet to make their lives better. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:07 PM
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This is a pretty shit discription and doesn't follow real life at all. I would say that a good-looking rich person is likely to have a more giving and good personality because they have mostly encountered goodness. Those less fortunate are likely to be warped due to their experience. I am a good case in point. I was weak, emotional and not attractive - i was bullied constantly as a result. My personality is one of deep distrust and looking for flags to avoid ridicule, less capable of joking arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:02 PM
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Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:51 PM
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There is a big difference between applying for jobs and selecting for a job. Sure the company has to spend money and hire Hr staff, but the process is kinda automated for them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:51 PM
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You are right. I am pretty intense. I date with a veiw to the future and compatibility. I have created the persona of unshakeable calm and ruthless efficiency. I am not ambitious but am intelligent to the point that i managed to get into a field that is highly competitive without the typical amounts of effort through sheer merit and a good dose of happenstance. How am I supposed to be fun? Is there therapy for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:48 PM
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We are incentivised to work harder to support a family and to make their lives better. But then we become absentee father's missing the moments that we want to be there for , first words, first steps, first play dates. And if the missus decides that the life i made possible is making her unhappy and she leaves everythinh i did counts against me because i am not a present father. We are told that we should have made more.of an effort to be a dad and money dosent make a father. And then they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:39 PM
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That seems to justify breaking up with a low frequency woman right? Because i am not the right guy for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:23 PM
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Better online than in person atleast.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:47 PM
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Better online than in person atleast.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:47 PM
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I don't know. I wouldn't rank your right to eat a hamburger in peace above my right to the pursuit of happiness. I guess i am fine with causing anoyance but not outright fear. Thats the line fir me anyway. Not that i have acted upon it. Still working up my courage to it so you may aswell rest assured that i will die a virgin before God forbid i disturb sone poor womans peace. Forget the dick pics and the forcefyk dancing .... It's like it's ok to tell guys like me to relax a bit because we over …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:41 PM
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Uh huh. What happened to listening to lived experiences? Fucking lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:13 PM
1

Well we see it as avoiding dying alone which is a far more existential thing than just that. As long as we know we are not gonna make you unsafe we don't really need to take responsibility for your feelings (to a point, eg waving a gun at your face even with the bullets not in is a criminal move for instance) Belive me if we could find a way to become Budha, a fair number wiuld chose it which is a Shane cause a good number of us are not bad guys. In my case i have come close to wanting to opt fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:13 PM
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But then comes the problem of her believing you are her friend and you might be but you are also interested. And upon disclosure she feels decieved. Women exclusively complain of being fuck zoned. And in mycase it don't befriend women to fuck them, i befriend them because i find them interesting and i develope feelings. Asking them out at that point never works becase i am their friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:54 PM
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It's money you spend a life time accumating. It's money that will keep me alive if i retire . So yes it's is an equally scary prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:55 PM
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Why is it heartbreaking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:53 PM
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We dint really have the luxury of doing nothing. I mean that's what I am doing and i am fucked. So i am not gonna judge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:52 PM
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You are a negligible minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:50 PM
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It is. Cause if it wasnt or rather if we don't see it as such then the pain is exponentially worse. Striking out in a game is expected. Getting rejected is a rejection of who you are and thats never easy. This is the result of expecting men to make the move.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:48 PM
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You have no idea what bring a guy is like so back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:46 PM
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You don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:46 PM
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Easier for lesbians. Discussed at length on another post talking about how women straight up don't like men because lesbians have a higher sucess rate with beyong subpar flirting skils Secret: it's the receptiveness of the opposite party.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:44 PM
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Lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:43 PM
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Ok.. this is gonna be a disertation of sorts OP. You were courageous enough to be honest about who you were, well, as courageous as you could be on an anonymous place. And as such i think i should respond in earnest. Guys like us are submissive. We enjoy being dominated and we crave being wanted and desiered by our partner. Our love lingo kinda seceeds a lot of our own autonomy in order to become an object to her. After all as objects we are completely hers. Objects that are treasured and loved …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:55 AM
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It's not so much masochism so much as a bending of boundaries. The pickings are so slim that i think i would conceed to some amount of physical pain to keep my partner happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:35 AM
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You just love being needlessly pedantic don't you. Sure i had as much choice in the atter as a 8 yr old could be expected to have. Is it your thing to just shoot down everyth a guy says on the off chance that they are red or purple pill? It does make you edgy or even make you look smart, it just makes you look like a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:26 PM
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I do not want legos. However i think my kid should at least experience it so that he/ she can decide if they want it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:25 PM
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Oh belive me not everyone is in this together. I have had men help me out at random. Never women. That can be fir whatever reason. It could be because they are afraid of me or fear the attention i might place upon them once contact is established. But men have enough to fear from me to. I could rob them, i could assault them but they chose to help me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:21 PM
2

I prefer "teach a man to fish"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:18 PM
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Talking with you is like tracing the origin of uroburos. Fuck that i am out. I enjoy philosophical jousting but you bore me. It feels like i am talking to the Alexa of human truths or rather truisms. There is something distinctly unauthentic about it.. I dint feel like you are trying to help. It would have been forgivable if you were. You are just here to satisfy you ego while i am simply scribling my trauma through my words. Like i said i am out. Good luck trolling the others
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:03 PM
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I am sure that castration doesn't extinguish desire. It just makes it clear that nothing can come off it. And beyond that what is wrong with you? What is this bullshit about spilling over and works of art and science. Every one of those people where un happy as hell. If the goal of life is happines then they have failed. I would much rather not live with that ache.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:58 PM
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It's not just that. It's this insane set up if having to compete. To literally behave like a tap dancing money fir their entertainment consideration and rejection. There is only so much damage anyones self worth can take. And you are here saying "thems the breaks" I am not the only one to have cursed his dick and his heart for wanting it. And by doing something irreparable to myself if i can obviate myself from this curse that is attraction to women, ..... I would consider it. At the very least …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:50 PM
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I don't think that i need to prove myself to women. I am a stellar dude to people i care about. I date people to find out if they are someone i can consider caring about. I assume thats what women are doing with me I have zero intension of trying to impress women. We are both there to see if something is there, if she requires a TADA to do that, then the relationship is dead in the water. If they signal to me that they are the type who expect a man to pay, they signal to me that they are not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:46 PM
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That's actually mostly what happens I am aware Same with guys who don't want to pay. So why all the whining like homeless worthless useless fucking trssh beggars about the cost of a meal? Because it's a double standard, and for a sex that abhors unfairness to the point of making a movement about it, they seem to be strange reticent about makeing it equal here. Which hey i understand but atleast they could be transparent instead of going holier than thou abd saying " the one who asks pays " Fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:39 PM
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men who think beyond the immediate impulses of their penis, who strive for a more noble and equal and just world and conduct themselves accordingly So most men then. Although it's weird that the onus to maintain this equality is on men. men who don't so much as blink when the check comes knowing full well the disproportionate costs imposed on women prior to arriving at the table. Again i just laid out to you that there are no costs. men who--if they indeed held the conviction that there is some …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:35 PM
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I'm a guy Could have fooled me Fancy thinking that friends of friends can't be dangerous. If only that were true. Most women fear strange men, and take steps to avoid that. It's a commonly projected fear. Rape and assaults by people you know do happen. But that can't be laid at the feet of ever guy they meet. If they are worried about it they could simple but a hibatchi and remain celibate. Men never expect that a date will result in sex? Could've fooled me. Are you saying that women have no age…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:28 PM
2

I am asking what more do you see since you obviously don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:20 PM
2

Oh please enlighten me oh budha. What else could they want seeing that you have already ascended your base urges?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:19 PM
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If i was a man i would just ban you for being this infuriating. What gun? Where is the gun to a womans head when you tell her that she has to suck you off or she doesn't get her raise. Still wrong no?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:17 PM
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Nope. I mean sure there is love and all that but it can all be reduced to sex when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:13 PM
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Look if you bear that much more risk then why are you out meeting strange men? Meet men through common friends and people who vouch for them. Avoid hook ups to begin with. When you indulge in this behaviour it kinda throws the " fears and risk" argument out of the window. Beyond that , its a date not sex. Men are not trying to draw a lottery ticket to buy a share of womens body to incubate his sperm. So the cost borne is a moot point too. Just admit that you are loath to change a dynamic that be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:11 PM
1

And that some how makes them less self hating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:02 PM
1

Honestly, the only time i would ask this if if she started treating me like shit while contributing little to the relationship. It's the mental monologue that would pull me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:00 PM
2

I was just taking the worst possible interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:54 PM
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It's not about sexuality. Thats not women's fault. It's the collective abdication of holding people accountable. It's about the insistence of wanting to see everything women do through the lens of "well maybe she had a hard life..." There is no woman who is evil. There is always sone or the other reason for her deficiency. Men? Oh men definitely evil for what ever he did? Life social class previous experiences don't matter. I just want a world where we can look at those women and go " You know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:54 PM
2

It's one thing to help people who are physically unable. Children and amputees should be taken care of by a sense of collective responsibility. But people who can and should have the ability to do so ... If i had the time i would offer to coach them through it but not anything beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:49 PM
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I have the time. The work load is worse here as this is a third world country but i am a surgeon.. We do still have to eat and sleep after all. Morosely pondering my sexlessness is the only guilty displeasure i have man. Get off my back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:52 PM
2

We want our children to have better lives than us. For us we can do without a lot. We don't feel comfortable making that decision for our children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:33 PM
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Actually it takes time and a good deal of marketing and some degree of immersion and role play but it is possible for you to develop a harem if slaves . Hell, if it was convenient i would have been a willing participant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:25 PM
2

So be a mindless simp... Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:23 PM
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I have never been asked wether i needed help getting down a suitcase. I am 5'6". I frequently have to ape Tobey Maguire. Now at 30 i even grab my back when i am done.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:23 PM
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They should stop. Honest to god. Not because they are simps or anything, but simply because it sets up women to expect being helped by default. Let them struggle through shit like we have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:20 PM
2

Happy to help
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:18 PM
2

So don't but do something that gives you value By some fluke i ended up as a doctor and sense a higher calling to pursue. The difficulty of the task i have accomplished gives me some sense of pride. Even if someone calls me an incel to my face i have the where withal to preserve my ego to say " oh , this incel managed to save so and so people upto date, you who is not an incel must have done so much better! No? You haven't positively affected anyone's life in a quantifiable way? Then shut the fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:17 PM
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A bigger load of bullshit i have not read in this entire post. Women are cruel. Sure they don't do anything to men they don't notice after all they don't exist but they are defensively and viciously feral if these hapless men try to approach them as if telling the world that the man should not have even dated to do so.... I have been on the receiving end frequently enough to no longer take it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:12 PM
2

It would be easier if they didn't say self serving shit so often. We believe politicians are liars. We believe comedians are more honest. There is a reason for stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:07 PM
2

*fat and childfree. Childfree is a choice Fat seems more like resignation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:06 PM
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No matter what i dont belive that there is a future where women will appreciate men. Wait. No. They will when it's socially imperative to do so ie wartime, to glorify the mindless sacrifice of life, but other than that they won't. They will say it's about the fear of being seen as available for pursuit, and the fear of attention but more likely it's about a lack of onus of responsibility to pay the price. This is my vindictive self speaking - i want women to live like men, to be treated exactly …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:01 PM
1

Idk. Meditation i guess. Compensating lack of value by acheiving things that give us value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:42 PM
2

It's not believing it so much as that's what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:41 PM
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It's not. But for the average man in his young 20s it is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:49 AM
1

Hey, if the girl has a geriatric fetish, i am not gonna kink shame her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:13 PM
8

The corolary being that if he asked out no one he would have had better numbers? True. He would have had no rejections but no relationships or hook ups either Go troll elsewhere man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:09 PM
1

Thats assuming these women give a shit about anything beyond what's in the mens wallets. A frequent complaint Mong women of this cohort is that the men of their age are more immature and less settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:06 PM
1

All relationships are statistically likely to fail. It's also likely that Israeli Palestinian couple or an Indian Pakistani couple will fail and that has to do with differing life experience than anything else. No one runs around lobbying against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:28 PM
4

I mean . Recognise it as a part of reality but it bites. I mean the only reall difference between me now and me 10 years ago is that i have a well paying job now... What supposed to do with the women showing interest now. If i was not good enough then then why am I good enough now Does my soul not matter? What does it say about their soul? Do I want to stay with someone like that? Or do I go fir it because i am tired of being alone. What is the difference between that and prostitution? I am bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:57 PM
1

Men who dare older women do find them attractive. Women who date older men presumably do so too. And even if they don't, even if it is a sugar baby type deal which i find morally repugnant... How is it our problem? Why do you have the right to say anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:26 PM
3

Because we constantly try and do that. If course it would be great if we could all become Gautam budha with enlightenment and total understanding of self. And we use externals to bloster out sense of self. The fact that i am a doctor against ridiculous odds hold my mind off on makeing the value judge ment that i am a complete waste of space. People constantly do this. They leverage their actions to protect their own ego. Coming to the ease with which women are able to get a new dick to ride on, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:00 PM
3

And how should men who go through much longer spells conceptualize themselves. Are they some how worse than the others who have sex ever 2-3 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:46 PM
-1

Thats definitely a you problem and one that is remedied by actions you can take by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:13 PM
3

Oh come on!! Jesus Christ this fucking take! Do you think this makes you look like some moral arbiter of what a good man is??! Cause it just makes you look unironically dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:11 PM
1

We both know you don't give a shit, so cut the crap
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:02 PM
1

They don't have enough empathy to think of it like that. They are just afraid of getting shit down
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:35 PM
2

Aww. Don't worry. It will happen someday
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:27 PM
-1

It could be that she doesn't want to be married. Olivia Wilde has alway been Avante garde
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:12 AM
1

Because women are women. Even if you taught them to make their own boats, they won't look for people without boat to help run theirs l, they will look for other people with boats preferably bigger and better than hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:07 AM
1

Great. So other than shaming old men for going after younger women, do we shame younger women for going after older men? For every woman who complaints that men her age are not mature and not settles and are likely to be loosers, do we tell them to shut the fuck up and get with the program and that they are making womanhood look predatory?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:05 AM
1

Most of the time it isn't even deserved. Women are indiscriminate and don't pull their punches because of their mental frame of constantly being wronged and always bring the victim. I don't think most young women truely comprehend that they are capable of being abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:01 AM
4

Doing the lord's work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:09 AM
1

Uh huh. You realise that men see women as innately skilled at manipulation and fooling us into our ruin right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:07 AM
1

More likelythat women would feel wronged and complaint about it. Men won't because 1. They kinda understand 2. They know Jo one will care, worse people would mock them. I am sure mail order brides can easily scam people but i doubt the good netizens on PPD could be fucked enough to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:06 AM
1

Most relationships are failures. Although I do agree that age gap couples shouldn't be getting into relationships. I also look down upon experience gap couples. Sex and FWB relationships are fine though since they are transparent about what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:44 AM
9

Truth bomb. And even then they never drop all the way to the attention a man receives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:24 AM
1

Just value your self and be confident, tee hee.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:21 AM
1

This is what I don't get. They are losing their youth anyway. Do you think they are gonna bag a 24 yr old heir by storing up their youth? Women already judge men as losers abd winners and a big factor in that is the economic power they hold. If they chose to be with a 30-35 yr old dude who has his shit together i don't think it's my place to but in. I used to get pissed about it because i was the looser 20 yr old. Idgaf anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:18 AM
2

Well the rest of the world is a shit show. For the most part life is hard and people scramble for power however they can. What this means is that men leverage brawn to be socio-politicaly relavant. Most of the places that have a large degree of freedom for western women - they happened because of men. Because they chose to listen and uphold the ideal of freedom. The places where women are oppressed also opressed by men. A great case in point is Afghanistan. As soon as the Taliban took over women…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:33 PM
2

Women make 50% of the vote bank don't they? More infact. They are less likely to go to jail. They are less likely to lose their electoral voice by that method. Trump was elected by women too. If all the women voted one way we would have had Hillary as the leader of the free world. It didn't happen. Please by all means tell me it's not also women's responsibility for not having enough women in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:26 PM
1

I will always see it as a demerit. If i get married i will take a corporate job and earn as much as i can to settle my family, to give my kids the best shot at an easier life. If i was to remain a bachelor i am content working in a government medical College perhaps pushing for the establishment of a transplantation unit. The version of me without a family is infinitely better for my country than the one who is married. Also to your constant point of respect from other people. Fuck that. Other p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:39 PM
1

Wow ... Thats a hot take. But i dont think it is without merit. When people initially brought up the concept of rape culture, western trad con and annti feminist voices kept shooting it down saying that it was blatantly untrue and that no one is telling kids that it's ok to rape. Feminist clarified that it is the society's permissiveness of problematic behaviour as an indicator of love. Ie men going after the women, the social veiw of women's passive role in relationships, the evident sucess of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:46 PM
4

Still easier than most men have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:48 AM
1

I think i could do it if i was an unimportant third. My biggest fetish is being a pet to 2 lesbian women. It's easier to di it in a casually sense, not as an actual relationship. I do not understand how.throuples work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:41 AM
1

I am using what i have to get me what i want. I am not hot, i am not charming. I am direct and frequently at the worst possible moments i give a damn about other people. I want to know what it's like to be desired i want to know that my attractiveness is not a function of my job or my salary. A salary that i dont even get the free time to enjoy. Is that so wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:24 PM
3

more like it makes you realise how much of a looser you are if others are able to do it so easily while you are sitting at home working on a degree so that you can trade your resources for sex with one person. i am such a chump
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:33 PM
1

a relatively comfortable life? a relatively more active and passionate sexlife?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:30 PM
1

know as much as me on those. I've had enough asking men out, rejection from said asking out, and a high sex drive. not the same when you have had the experience of being wanted at anytime in the last year. Most men, me , i feel liken a pest to just try. A cockroach who barely deserves the crumbs on the floor and shouldn't expose himself lest he gets crushed. And you would say something like - " thats just low self esteem" believe me if you live the life of an average man, you would think of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:28 PM
1

arving if all you wanted was to maximise the amount of different people you had sex with in the first place. Which I guess is a goal, but not a really common o whats "normal" is having sex with a few people and sometimes things line up and you decide to stick it out long term. the more number of people you get to have sex with the more likely you are to organically fall into a relationship. when you don't have those many options men make the mistake of settling for the fir woman who shows intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:22 PM
1

the possibility that someone who has less options vs more options is going to effect their willingness to stay? I used a short man as the example. This can easily also be applied to a woman. How many women have you known who have stayed because they think they didn’t deserve better. Isn’t that the theme that a lot of abusive relationships have in common but it does help. Just like money helps with stability in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:18 PM
0

Filtering zero with 25 preconditions gets you zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:39 PM
1

Screw off. If guys are using jacking off to cope with not getting into relationships or ever having sex then you don't get to judge them for it . I hope you end up a spinster ( no disrespect) cause anything else would make you a hypocrite cause i am convince that you are by all measures as average as any man and if you get married to any person at your level it will be an average dude. But don't worry you can always be a plate in a hvm harem and who knows he might marry you before cheating on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:33 PM
0

Part of the problem of dating is that men can't really afford to have any standards or morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:31 PM
2

Fuck it dude. I just want the world to die.in a firey hell. Atleast in doomsday the happy couples and the lonely men and women are all equally fucked. It's the only kind of equality we can hope for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:30 PM
143

In other words water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:46 PM
12

To us it is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:02 AM
2

You would think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:02 AM
1

I used to belive in something a bit more idealistic. Something more akin to struggle love than to what you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:52 PM
2

The law in all its majesty penalises the rich and the poor alike for sleeping on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:35 PM
1

You are right he could save up to castrate himself like i plan to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:30 PM
1

there's a sweetspot. It needs to be high enough that you have heard of it happening around you or in the news or on reddit but it doesn't need to have happened to you, if that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:21 PM
3

Yes because we are all enough as we are. If you don't belive me just live my life and the wonderful feeling of barely controlled fury at myself. Fyi you are setting him up to fail
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:18 PM
1

Oh we are. Most of us trust the counter measures more. Far more people are afraid of dogs. (Less than the number it should be because of the dogs brand image. Most of that fear is directed towards pitbulls however.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:09 PM
2

I would say the numbers are closer to 70. And even they are liable to leave you high and dry when they no longer feel the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:04 PM
0

As a man that no one wanted.. that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:00 PM
2

Fear is not about probability, it's about possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:58 PM
11

As far as the internal is concerned, these are all good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:15 PM
7

There is a sort of coldness to them. A discomfort in group settings. They are not malicious just uncomfortable. And it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:03 PM
4

I hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:36 PM
33

Get him heavily socialised in contact sport with a low risk of brain injury. And incentivise him for reading books. ,Like 10 $ If you read this book and tell me what it's about. Encourage academic achievement. Do not dissuade him from hanging out with friends and having slumber parties. Host them on a rotational basis with other parents. If he expresses interest in anything niche - teach him or get him started. Teach him all the manly skills you know . Debating someone and dismantling their argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:14 PM
1

Yeah but i dont get if you are red pill or blue pill or some unholy union of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:05 PM
3

Well you should go over to Unpopular opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:03 PM
2

Build it yourself lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:58 AM
1

2 out of 4 is pretty good
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:28 PM
1

It seemed pertinent. Are you upset about it? I don't see why? You should be able to get your wish before i get mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:06 PM
1

As a lawyer said, it's not about the money, it about the respect the amount implies. As far as any man is concerned, if a woman who general sleeps relatively easily with others decides to go slow with you ... Gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:59 PM
1

You are right. It shows i care about him vs you who is evaluating his value
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:54 PM
0

I hope you find your guy i really do. But for the most part if any guy hears that they would run as they should. If my friend asks me about a girl he is seeing who says that, i would do everything in my power to break you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:37 PM
9

After 30 years it becomes difficult to give a shit. I'll hold on for now but if there are no changes by the time i hit 40, well let's just say that hookers will get one more regular customer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:23 AM
1

Not until they are forced to. Not until they face actually regret over past actions. But in general - words are wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:53 AM
3

Most people don't really grow. It's a risk for cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:45 AM
1

I expect women to love me for me, i guess we can't have everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:39 AM
0

"young women".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:29 AM
3

If she wasn't woman enough to fuck you on the first date the she doesn't deserve you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:28 AM
2

Chasing validation through sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:27 AM
2

It's one thing if there is trauma around it. But it requires a discussion. If she was to tell me that she doesn't do casual sex , anal and BJ's (fir whatever reason) and then i find out that she loved getting railed back in college, then it's difficult to see the love. I am just gonna assume that she was more attracted to her past mates and was trying to keep me arround fir my provisioning ability than any base attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:07 AM
2

Hot take : traditional women are a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:01 AM
-1

Thats just setting up men to fail. Fuck that. This is the world we live in. This is what most relationships are compared to. Maybe there is a guy out there who is respectful enough or desperate enough to wait like that, but not most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:00 AM
-1

Thats a good rationalization to stay in a relationship and keep treating the woman well while she feels like she doesn't even have to do the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:57 AM
3

You just paraphrased what he said without adding anything to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:56 AM
2

I was a lot more idealistic about this in the past. Not any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:42 AM
21

He can still get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:41 AM
4

The kind who believes that the more fortunate earned their sucess while the less fortunate earned their situation out of laziness abd lack of drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:23 PM
2

Ah. You are one of the just world types. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:18 PM
2

Not what i meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:31 AM
2

You can afford to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:24 AM
3

You are just making justifications.after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:18 AM
1

They are if you chose not to go fir them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:55 AM
6

Maturity? Really? You are gonna make it about maturity?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:54 AM
2

That has to be complicated. Do you love him? Do you think he raised you well? Will you remember him at his worst or do you prefer to remember his better moments?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:28 AM
1

Let us encourage genetic dead ends to find hapiness and catharsis through self harm. Fight club style. Who knows? beating ourselves into concussions could drop our iq points enough to be acctualy happy with out life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:47 AM
1

I am the most non desperate guy i know So much so that i have lived 30 years without breaking down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:46 AM
0

Personally if i get to the age of developing issues with erection as a virgin, i would probably kill myself out of spite. It's still a distant possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:44 AM
3

That sounds like a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:28 AM
5

I Think it all worked out for the best. He suffered because of his inaction. Your mom benifits from being set loose from a guy who thinks he could have done better. I don't think she would have been that happy if he had stayed faithfully. It's like the net happiness didnt change in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:21 AM
1

Not to sound like an asshole but what indication do i have of future girlfriend like behaviour from the woman? Is she gonna sit there demurely, laugh politely, and maintain a hight level of sophistcated conversation? I can't expect that to continue through out the relationship. Noe do I want any of it. I abhor submissive women in all form, i abhor traditionalists too. I can't expect the woman i am with to be completely put together all the time. You know what would be cool? Women bringing baked …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:27 AM
1

Thats exactly how i would feel. The fact that women expect me paying for the food to be an indicator of interest is a what i want to avoid. I showed up right? I spend time ghere didn't i? It means i am interested. I don't understand the need for proving the seriousness of intention beyond that? I would much rather be with someone more intune with me in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:43 AM
1

I meant people coming upto them and asking them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:32 AM
1

There is a sense of entitlement there too. I wouldn't ask a guy for the window seat. Thats not me being unconfident. That me knowing that he paid the fr a damn window seat and i didn't. Women are entitled. They keep talking about how men get reactive when they are denied a date and sulk when denied sex ... But when the reverse happens the meltdowns are incredible to watch and breathtaking in their hypocrisy. A pretty girl can go a long time before being humbled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:21 PM
1

We can only hope
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:52 PM
-2

Stealing her youth? Over dramatic much?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:40 PM
2

What if she wants sex and nothing more?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:35 PM
6

Thats kinda the point though. Women at that age are not going to want to get in an relationship and more open to casual sex. If that's what the man is looking for then no one is manipulating anyone. Relationships are iffy ofcourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:33 PM
3

I honestly don't see any problem going after younger women aslong as both parties know it's only sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:30 PM
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