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Just curious, how accurate is it? What would be a good score on it?
/r/seduction04/05/21 08:56 AM
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I’d just say “6 ft”, it’s close enough. And it’s not a lie if in shoes.
/r/seduction28/04/21 09:18 AM
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It’s an illusion. When you get that many matches suddenly your standards go up. Same thing has happened to me (I’m a dude) - I found myself swiping right on some girls who were cute but not the hottest during a spell when I wasn’t getting a lot of matches. Now that I do have more matches I find myself being more picky and wondering why I even swiped right on some of these girls in the first place. There’s a YouTube channel School of Attraction that explains the phenomenon really well. Because th…
/r/seduction28/04/21 08:55 AM
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Go to Asia.
/r/seduction22/04/21 10:11 AM
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Honestly, there is so much conflicting information out there. The more you read sometimes, the more confused you get. The important thing is finding your own style. Some pickup guys have great verbal game (Todd, Jeffy) and talk 50 percent of the time. Other guys (AMS, Corey Wayne) advocate remaining a mystery and asking the girl questions, talking only 20 percent of the time. Whichever style you adopt, I would say the most important thing is always be escalating - whether that’s logistics wise (…
/r/seduction14/01/20 03:58 AM
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I looked into it abit more (pickup and dating literature) it’s probably a combination of both your comments. As in - I probably am not the hottest guy in her eyes but met at least the minimum requirement for hooking up with. However when I showed that I’m not that good with foreplay it turned her off whereas she might have gone ahead anyway with a guy who she perceived as more attractive. Any books / links you can recommend for getting better at foreplay / sex?
/r/seduction14/01/20 02:38 AM
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I didn’t give enough detail I think. I take the point she was likely uncomfortable / unattracted by that point, but it happens during the foreplay stage when I’m making out with her at hers (I use singular but this is a pattern for me - I’ve had a few dates in a row this happened). So basically she’s comfortable with me being at hers, even comfortable making out and me playing with her body. And then at some point during this process she gets uncomfortable. So I feel it must be something I’m doi…
/r/seduction11/01/20 10:38 AM
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Thanks for the link, that’s helpful. Great thing is he gives you actionable steps. I might just read his book again like he suggests. My biggest issue right now is struggling with all these different styles - Todd, Corey wayne, AMS - it’s a lot of conflicting information
/r/seduction11/01/20 06:08 AM
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It’s weird how dating advice has shifted to not having sex on the first date. I have been watching Corey Wayne and AMS stuff lately and they don’t necessarily have sex on the first date either. But I started out reading Mystery Method, watching RSD Jeffy, even Todd (traditional PUAs) they would advocate closing on the first date or first meet. For me, it feels more like a technical problem. Because I am actually able to bring these girls to a hotel or go back to their place with them. Everything…
/r/seduction11/01/20 03:25 AM
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At first I thought it made sense, but then as I said, looking back I’ve banged 8s and above on first date no issue, and these lmr instances have all happened with girls I found to be 6s and 7s. So surely I am above that 8 “threshold”
/r/seduction10/01/20 09:01 PM
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Maybe subjectively not hot enough to this girl. Actually looking back this happened to me mostly with 6s and 7s. I havnt had lmr with an 8 or above before, though granted I havnt slept with many 8s or above at all. I wonder if it’s something to do with them knowing Im not super into them and would just pump and dump.
/r/seduction10/01/20 08:53 PM
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This is so on point. I’ve been trying to break down why I havnt been getting second dates recently (other than the ones where we hookup or I “pass the point of no return” without doing so) and usually it’s because I played it too safe. I would kiss or go for the kiss but never create an opportunity for sex as in asking her back to my place. I’m guessing they think I’m a waste of time - they want some fun theyre not looking for a boyfriend yet. If the chemistry is there and you don’t at least go …
/r/seduction06/01/20 04:41 PM
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Money and status. The late Lemmy from Motörhead is an ugly dude who even had warts at one point. He slept with thousands of women. If your looks suck then get rich or famous. You don’t even have to be that rich. I have bulked up a lot from when I was a skinny virgin at age 18 (I’m 30) but really the biggest change for me is having a career and high paying job.
/r/ExRedPill06/01/20 06:44 AM
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I’m 30 as well, but actually I find it’s better for me to have a mission of say approaching at least 3 sets when I go out. I feel better because I am actually taking action to get what I want. Whereas if I go out just to have fun, yes I’ve noticed some girls have been super receptive to this but at the same time its a lot of leaving it up to chance rather than taking charge.
/r/seduction03/01/20 03:59 AM
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Yeah I go out on the weekend with my wing(s), daygame and nightgame. Also go on tinder dates and such
/r/seduction01/01/20 04:48 PM
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Makes sense to me. And i used to hate on nightgame numbers until I started having success from them. The girls are usually in groups with their friends on a night out, hard to pull the same night.
/r/seduction01/01/20 12:42 AM
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Yeah surprised at the negative comments. This is just classic mystery method / Todd v. I actually think it’s a positive post, putting the focus on what you can do despite having less than stellar genetics.
/r/seduction01/01/20 12:38 AM
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I think it just depends on your personality. Some people naturally do better at one than the other. For me, daygame is way better since I’m naturally introverted and lower energy, hate dealing with groups. It makes sense to focus on the type of game that you’re naturally better at.
/r/seduction01/01/20 12:33 AM
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Running into similar problems lol. It used to be the process for getting a girlfriend was to bang a girl as soon as possible to get her invested. Now it seems girls bang just as easy as dudes, so sex is no investment at all. So actually to get a girlfriend you might even want to withhold sex until later. Crazy how the tables have turned. Men are the ones getting pumped and dumped. Sexual free market in place now.
/r/seduction01/01/20 12:30 AM
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I feel like the staying outside her apartment bit was a mistake, although I accept I wasn’t there and you had a better sense of her vibe. Even if you just made a lame excuse like you had to use the bathroom really badly, as long as you can get inside that would’ve been the right play, because there’s nowhere else to have sex.
/r/seduction02/12/19 06:20 PM
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Completely on board with this. I think the worst part of ghosting is the first few days when you still think she might just be taking her time / playing hard to get or whatever. And then after a few days you’re like ohhh, that’s what happened. Would be great if every girl did this - brings closure. But most girls like to keep guys on the back burner, for better or worse. Wouldn’t count on girls being this respectful most of the time. Kudos to you for moving past a natural female instinct to keep…
/r/seduction21/11/19 07:55 AM
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I wonder if the difference is just a willingness to take the risk and escalate physically. I fucked a chick on the first date recently and afterwards I was just curious so asked about her past relationships and what not. She made this dude wait 3 months to bang - she said she never felt anything for him from the start, he was the stereotypical provider guy, even bought her flowers on the third date. Maybe if he’d just gone for it right away it would’ve triggered those feelings in her and she’d h…
/r/seduction30/10/19 04:22 PM
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Any tips for getting into that state? I’ve been meditating for years, I guess I’m just naturally more of a “in my head” kind of guy. The few times I’ve been able to let loose (usually after drinking a shit ton) I’ve had great success, but for me it’s abit hit and miss. I’m not able to turn that on or off on command.
/r/seduction30/10/19 04:12 PM
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I’m aware of the RSD million dollar mouthpiece stuff, Todd also has a bunch of improv exercises for being able to talk endlessly, I’ve tried them all but for me it’s like pulling teeth. Just did not click. It might just be a quirk of mine, just knowing I have a contingency plan makes me feel more confident. And then ironically, once I have the contingency plan I’m able to implement a lot of this stuff.
/r/seduction30/10/19 04:09 PM
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https://www.lovesystems.com/collections/routines-manual
/r/seduction30/10/19 04:06 PM
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Props to these girls for being honest though. That was refreshing and still abit mind blowing for me even after all these years knowing about the game. Too much social conditioning.
/r/seduction30/10/19 02:04 PM
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Yeah man, my success rate is way higher for converting a prospect to a date from day game cold approach. The time and effort required is much less, and the ratio of dates to approaches higher. I think the great thing about cold approach is there’s less fucking around. If she likes you, she’s already had a sample of you in real life, can see you’re a normal guy, so why not meet you some other time for a date. If she doesn’t like you, she rejects you and then you go about your day it’s fine. On ti…
/r/seduction17/10/19 12:57 PM
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I’d be super interested to hear the various stages of dating and pickup from the 80s through to now. Maybe it’s the ex-history major in me. I’m sure there are lessons to take from identifying the trends/patterns through the past few decades.
/r/seduction17/10/19 06:24 AM
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Haha don’t mean to hate but that’s not exactly helpful...of course if you find the guy attractive already anything he does will build the vibe. Game is about helping those guys who women generally don’t see and immediately have feelings of attraction for already.
/r/seduction17/10/19 05:21 AM
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Yeah that was my understanding before as well, and it makes sense. Lately I’ve been experimenting/thinking whether we overgame. As in we misunderstood what’s required and we’re doing all this shit when we don’t need to. Especially on a medium like tinder I wanted to be more efficient. Since I’ve heard from multiple girls that even they understand that tinder is for hooking up. But I guess it’s like when girls go out, some are there to hook up but even those you need some amount of game to move t…
/r/seduction17/10/19 01:04 AM
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A bit of a late reply, but in case anyone sees this from searching the forum, I think the not coming off overly-anxious or overly-polite point is true, but want to add to that: for beginners seeing this, forget about that right now. You probably will come across overly-anxious or overly-polite at first - fuck it. Its not something you can fix by keeping it in the back of your mind. Just do the anxious and uncalibrated approaches anyway and let that teach you. Overtime you become desensitised and…
/r/seduction16/10/19 01:15 PM
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An advanced guy once told me “girls are sexually receptive but not sexually proactive” so always take her number instead of give out, and be the one leading, ie asking her out etc
/r/seduction28/09/19 06:12 AM
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Groups of 2 are hard, even advanced guys usually need a wingman. Ironically groups of 3 or more can be more easily gamed solo cuz the friends won’t get bored.
/r/seduction26/09/19 06:26 PM
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Try opening with “you look like trouble ;)”
/r/seduction26/09/19 12:16 PM
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I think the value of cold approach is that it’s ok to fuck up. If I’m at a work party or some other social circle event there might be more girls that are really compatible with me but without first practicing those pickup and seduction skills from cold approach, I wouldn’t be confident enough to take the risk of progressing with those girls. Cuz if I fuck up in that setting there might be social consequences, hits to my reputation, being known as a creep etc Whereas it doesn’t matter if I make …
/r/seduction10/09/19 07:04 AM
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Thanks man, I’m looking forward to it. I’m probably more of a beginner to be honest (havnt done a great deal of cold approaching) but I’m keeping an open mind and it’ll be a good chance to see if this stuff really works as advertised, if nothing else.
/r/seduction10/09/19 03:36 AM
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I recommend Winner Game by Todd. It’s free and he has a video about insecurities. Basically yes, looks matter, height matters, money matters but what can you do? Just roll over and die? All you can do is focus on what you can change - build muscle, take up a combat sport so you feel more physically confident, get your finances and lifestyle in order, work on your pickup skills, then move forward. I know it’s easy to just give up and feel sorry for yourself. It’s ok to sometimes because life’s ha…
/r/seduction04/09/19 05:46 AM
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I get you man. I also find it hard to get motivated to approach or date girls that are below an 8. Sounds like for you your standard might be even higher. But I think there’s value to practicing your skills on less attractive girls. Silly 6s and saucy 7s. Because what happened with me is I stopped going out and on dates to practice, and then suddenly I got hit with an 8 who was highly interested in me and I froze. Nerves took over and because I hadn’t had practice in a while my skills were rusty…
/r/seduction04/09/19 04:03 AM
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Thanks Smoothmax, you’re absolutely right. I think I just let the physical attraction part take over everything else. Made it mean more than it should have - made it mean something about my worth, about how cool I am. “Train wreck” is a fair description, since she did all this in front of our extended social circle basically - everyone saw her come onto me strong and wanting to bang. One positive I’m taking from this is that going forward I know I meet at least a minimum physical attractiveness …
/r/seduction22/08/19 02:17 AM
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