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I'll be honest if she was interested she wouldn't have told you right away she had a boyfriend or she's just super loyal which is great, but either way leave it alone
/r/seduction25/10/24 04:38 PM
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House party game is very similar to club game in the sense that your approach is everything, it's very unlikely that she's there alone, so she's going to be in a group of people which means you want to get her attention fairly quickly. A good way to do this is to start with an observation about her or the surroundings, or maybe a compliment, BUT don't start the conversation with something generic like "great party, huh" or "who you here with?" or "how do you know xyz", you want something origina…
/r/seduction25/10/24 04:31 PM
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I'll be honest, looks don't matter too much if you're good at approaching. Obviously being good looking is a bonus, but I've found women don't care too much. It's possible your body language came off badly, or how you dress, or she just didn't feel like talking, which honestly isn't your fault. A lot of this is arbitrary, some girls will want to talk to you, some girls won't, it is what it is
/r/seduction25/10/24 04:05 PM
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Yes, sir!
/r/seduction25/10/24 09:14 AM
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I did a post called "the problem with pickup artists" I think you should read it before taking their advice
/r/seduction25/10/24 09:14 AM
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Truthfully your opener doesn't need to be that playful it's the rapport stage at which you need to be playful, for example (this is a real interaction btw): (Approaches) Me: I saw you from over there and honestly you're too pretty for me to not know your name. Her: oh thank you, my name is xyz Me: okay xyz, what brings you here? Her: I'm just doing some shopping Me: I thought vampires couldn't come out in the day Her: haha you got me Me: not yet but I'd like to ;) Her: omg stop Me: so xyz, what …
/r/seduction25/10/24 08:20 AM
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Well it depends, I personally think gym attire is for the gym and wearing it all the time kinda feels like you don't have any style. Now, obviously if you're on your way home from the gym then yeah wear your gym attire, but if you're just walking around wearing it all day it's not great. I suggest getting some nice casual wear to put on when you're not at the gym
/r/seduction24/10/24 02:01 PM
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I agree you're not there only to have fun, you're there to pull and I'm not going to lie and act like I don't want to pull when I go out, I like having sex at the end of the night, it's great, but I also think it's important to be okay with the fact that it might not happen, no one has a 100% success rate so sometimes you'll strike out and that's okay because at least you still had fun, you know what I mean?
/r/seduction24/10/24 01:54 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm not saying go up to women and say "hey look what I can do!", I simply meant if the topic comes up and you happen to be knowledgeable of it, you should demonstrate that knowledge. For example I play the piano, if we happen to be talking about music I will share that fact about myself and it just so happens to be something that most other men cannot do as well as I can.
/r/seduction24/10/24 01:16 PM
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Something I've been experimenting with when I approach is to walk up to her without saying anything, spin her around and then say "dance with me" in her ear, it's good because not only have I already touched her within the first two seconds I've made it clear that I'm confident and interested. And if she says no then I keep it moving and continue my night.
/r/seduction24/10/24 12:17 PM
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I suggest practicing day game, approach random women that you don't care if they reject you or not. Think of it like being a comedian, many comedians go to small comedy clubs to test out their new material, some of it will be funny and some of it won't. You just gotta see what works and what doesn't. NOBODY has a 100% success rate with women, that's simply not how it works, so don't be too hard on yourself if she's not interested, you got to practice your game.
/r/seduction24/10/24 11:04 AM
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I think you're missing the point, I'm not saying don't try, you should wear nice clothes and you should flirt but also, you should detach yourself from the outcome because the simple reality is you're not always going to pull and I do know a lot of guys that get upset when they don't pull, which is stupid. No, I don't go to the club with the primary goal of pulling, for me that's just a bonus and that's why I have a better time than most guys in the club, because my life doesn't revolve around g…
/r/seduction24/10/24 10:58 AM
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That's the worst bro, cause it's so difficult to take one of them home when you're entertaining both and realistically there's probably only a 1% chance you're pulling both of them so it's really just a waste at that point.
/r/seduction24/10/24 10:47 AM
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That's so true I've had to cut some people off because i realised that their whole lives revolved around how many one night stands they could have, which I used to think was cool but looking back at it, it was actually really sad.
/r/seduction24/10/24 09:07 AM
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I completely agree, I've realised that a lot of this stuff is indeed overcompensating and if you were to follow it to the letter, you'd come off as not socially adjusted and overall a bit weird.
/r/seduction24/10/24 09:02 AM
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Are you using the same game for street approaches vs pub approaches, cause that might be your problem, you need to vary your approach, bars are easy, women are expecting to get hit on ygm. So as long as you're decent looking and have a bit of banter, you're calm. However street approaches are very different, you can't just walk up to someone and say "I think you're fit", so you need an in, ask for directions and then tell her you like how her voice sounds, compliment her outfit etc. Also having …
/r/seduction24/10/24 06:10 AM
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Nah bro, it's not worth it, if she happens to message you later on then maybe, but otherwise don't get involved. I've been with girls that were going through mental health crisis and it's never ever been worth it.
/r/seduction24/10/24 05:09 AM
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I understand that, hypersexuality is a pretty common expression of childhood trauma, which is probably why you were using girls for sex. But I also think it's important to acknowledge that you've passed that stage. I'm not sure how you cope with things now but I suggest finding healthy coping mechanisms before you enter a serious relationship, because even if you're not using them for sex, you'll still be using them as an emotional crutch which isn't healthy for either of you.
/r/seduction24/10/24 05:07 AM
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Red flags not being able to hold your end of a conversation: in my opinion most people are capable of having a two way conversation, so if I have to carry the conversation then I will simply assume that you don't value me or my time. Not being able to take criticism: If she gets angry any time someone corrects her on something then that's a pretty good sign that she's a narcissist which is a big no for me. Constantly talking about exes or previous partners: I'm not a jealous guy but like, why ar…
/r/seduction24/10/24 05:00 AM
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Definitely a physical activity, a pretty good one I've found is a fun fair with games and shit, cause when she wins you can high five her, high fives turn to hugs, hugs turn to... you see where I'm going with this. And all of this happens under the guise of both of you having fun rather than you simply finding an excuse to touch her.
/r/seduction24/10/24 04:47 AM
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Well, yes and no. yes, it will affect your reputation, (regardless of whether you're successful or not), allow me to explain, if you're successful all the time, girls are going to think you're a sleazeball but if you're not successful they're gonna think you're a loser. On the other hand, who cares dude, the only way you're going to get better is to practice and college is a really good place to practice, plus, once you graduate you're never going to see these people again soooo
/r/seduction24/10/24 04:40 AM
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I think you need to frame your mindset in a way that realises that none of this shit matters. You don't know her, she doesn't know you, so even if she shoots you down, it doesn't matter. Something I used to do when I was first starting out is to just force myself to approach, by that I mean I would just make my feet move in her direction until I'd have no choice but to talk to her or else it would be really awkward. Turns out I was more scared of an awkward situation than being rejected lol
/r/seduction24/10/24 04:26 AM
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Well for me it depends on the situation, if she was dancing before I came over, I don't wanna stop her from dancing, so I'll probably comment on her moves and then dance with her which is a pretty good way to escalate into a kiss and then getting out of there. If she's sitting down I'm not going to force her to dance unless it seems like she wants to, chances are I'll make the same approach then ask if I can sit with her, if she says yes, that's a pretty good sign that she's open to getting to k…
/r/seduction24/10/24 04:19 AM
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This is why it's so important to get rid of outcome dependency. It's not about coming home with with a girl, it'll take some time to cultivate those skills, you need to celebrate the little things. Think of it this way if you started doing Karate, would you only be happy when you get a black belt? No, because there's many belts in between. You couldn't talk to girls before, now you can, you couldn't get numbers before, now you can, these are the things that should motivate you to keep going beca…
/r/seduction24/10/24 04:11 AM
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I never said don't be good at it, I said enjoy it. Most of those depressed assholes don't even enjoy sex, they just want something to distract them from their shitty lives, which is kinda sad either way. I'm saying don't let your life revolve around getting laid because the times that you don't (and there will be times), you're just going to feel worse about yourself because you weren't thinking about anything other than getting some.
/r/seduction24/10/24 03:58 AM
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I agree with you, but the thing is they never get rid of that chip, at some point you need to realise that you're good at it and no longer need to be angry about it. It's kinda like going to the gym and getting toned but still acting like you're fat, it's not good for you.
/r/seduction24/10/24 03:15 AM
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I think you're missing the point of this post. yes, some guys have fun and go home empty handed, that's true. But the point I was making is getting your inner game to a level at which you don't care if you get laid or not. Your life shouldn't revolve around getting pussy, because the simple truth is you're not going to pull every single time you go out, that's not how it works. So if you pull 7/10 times (which is a pretty good ratio), that means 3/10 times you're going to go home upset just beca…
/r/seduction24/10/24 02:11 AM
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I agree, I feel like once people start getting attractive to women, it's easy to fall into the trap of just getting laid for the sake of getting laid. Which loops back to my question of what's the point? Are you even having fun?
/r/seduction23/10/24 10:18 PM
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It is, but the point I'm making, is by having inner game, you become that person naturally, rather than just pretending to be.
/r/seduction23/10/24 10:09 PM
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Thanks bro
/r/seduction23/10/24 10:00 PM
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Absolutely, women want sex just as much (if not more) than men do. You simply have to be someone they want to do it with.
/r/seduction23/10/24 09:59 PM
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That's true, honestly if she already likes you she'll do most of the work and all you have to do is not mess up lol
/r/seduction23/10/24 09:23 PM
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Honestly it's hit or miss but most times they find it cute enough that they'll do it back which is a good chance to walk over. Usually when I walk over I'll follow up by saying "if you wanted to dance with me you should've just said so"
/r/seduction23/10/24 08:57 PM
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Yeah it never hurts to be a little forward because it puts the ball in her court rather than leaving it up to the universe to help her figure out you're interested
/r/seduction23/10/24 12:53 PM
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I don't think OP used it :(
/r/seduction20/08/22 07:17 PM
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Well done bro! don't ever let that discourage you, you win some you lose some 🤷🏾‍♂️
/r/seduction20/08/22 11:52 AM
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Generally speaking, by the 3rd date you should've tried to kiss her. If you don't soon, you will get friendzoned. A good way to start is to link arms when you walk with her, that's a good one because it can be either friendly or romantic. When you say hug her but keep holding her waist as she pulls away so she's still in front of you, then go for the kiss
/r/seduction20/08/22 09:36 AM
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Thanks man
/r/seduction20/08/22 09:30 AM
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Thanks bro
/r/seduction20/08/22 08:55 AM
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"So what would you be guilty of?" "guilty... me? Impossible! if I do something bad it'll definitely be your fault x"
/r/seduction19/08/22 11:50 PM
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Absolutely, especially if you ask to meet on the phone. I feel like women take it more seriously when they say it out loud vs simply typing it out
/r/seduction19/08/22 10:08 PM
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You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. No one will ever be attracted to you if they don't find you attractive. Flirting enforces an already existing attraction. It's job isn't to force attraction, it's goal is to bring to her attention that she finds you attractive, for her to catch herself playing along and be like "I'm actually really attracted to this guy" So no, no it does not "force" attraction.
/r/seduction18/08/22 05:03 PM
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Dating apps are indeed difficult (especially if you don't look like a supermodel), because of the things you said, but also because there's a very limited investment. They're on there to talk to people (which they get to do), but they don't actually lose anything if they unmatch you and talk to someone else. This means you constantly have to keep her interest or risk being unmatched and this, as you said includes matching her vibe, she won't match yours because she's not invested yet. I've found…
/r/seduction18/08/22 12:22 PM
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You know wassup!
/r/seduction18/08/22 01:48 AM
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Well gauging is important. What personality does she have? You can't paint women with the same brush. It also depends on the women where you live, I live in London(which judging by your user name you might to), the women here generally less likely to react to aggressive flirting. You gotta respond accordingly. I like to do a taste test, in the initial conversation after getting her I like to make ONE every so slightly sexual joke ( just one works because even if she's not yet on it, she'll let y…
/r/seduction18/08/22 01:19 AM
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Rejection is part of the game, my friend. It's like being a soccer player that only tries to score when there's no defense. You won't score very much. It sucks getting rejected, but it is what it is bro
/r/seduction18/08/22 01:06 AM
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That's just one thing. I am interested to know however, what else do you do to show a man you're interested 🤔🤔
/r/seduction18/08/22 01:04 AM
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It absolutely can but women's personalities are way too different. What I can say however is regardless of what she's like, if she's not into you, her body language will be very clear lmao
/r/seduction18/08/22 01:02 AM
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It's funny how people have given all of these body languages names and turned it into some science (for example what you do is known as the "triangle method"), when in real life you just gotta get out of your head and see the conversation for what it is.
/r/seduction18/08/22 01:00 AM
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Neither, don't get too much into your head about body language. The simple problem with relying on BL is that not all women have the same personality, confidence etc. Therefore they will not always react in the same way. What you should be looking out for is if she's contributing to the conversation, even the shyest girl will say one or two things to keep the conversation going if she likes you.
/r/seduction18/08/22 12:57 AM
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This is terrible advice for 2 reasons: Women will rarely invite you to approach unless they are extremely attracted to you. How good are you at reading signs anyway? Lmao You should approach the women you want. If they're not interested. OK. No hard feelings have a good day. That's how it works.
/r/seduction18/08/22 12:45 AM
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The author of that article has it backwards, you don't close more by approaching less, you approach less BECAUSE you're better at closing. The #1 thing that matters about day game is your approach. Remember, when people leave their houses they aren't expecting to be asked out... In fact, they probably have shit to do that day. In a bar, women expect to be approached. This means that YOU have to get them into that mood before you can close. Beyond that, you have an uncertain window to do it befor…
/r/seduction18/08/22 12:13 AM
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Not gonna lie bro juggling 2 girls simply isn't worth it. Did it once and never again dawg lmao
/r/seduction17/08/22 06:35 PM
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I operate a don't ask, don't tell policy. If she wants to tell you she has a boyfriend, she will and if she hasn't mentioned him past a certain point, then there's a reason for that. Just keep doing your thing.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:18 PM
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Absolutely bro, that being said, it really shouldn't be about acting nonchalant, you gotta set firm boundaries for yourself and stick with them. Otherwise people will take you for a dickhead. You're not cool with her ignoring you all day, then that should be your boundary and you have 2 options: Charge it to the game. Just assume she won't ever reply and if she does it's whatever. If you really like her, when she texts you, let her know that you didn't appreciate that (little upfront, I know, bu…
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:12 PM
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Thanks man
/r/seduction15/08/22 12:16 PM
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Definitely bro, not worth it. And as for mindset, what's important is to have fun. Honestly and I tell people this all the time, what's the point of gaming women if you're not actually having fun doing it? People like to complicate and compartmentalize inner game into abundance mentality and this and that, but the real key is to just have fun. The reason I don't take it personally when I get rejected is because every interaction I have, I make sure that I enjoy myself and so it doesn't even matt…
/r/seduction14/08/22 04:30 PM
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Well, it might. But if you're trying to use abundance mentality to get a girl back, then I think you're missing the whole point. Abundance mentality is having confidence in YOUR ability to attract other women that YOU find attractive and so when you get rejected it's not a big deal because women are abundant. So the first piece of advice I can give you about this break up is, stop trying bro. Sure you can want her back, but don't do things specifically to get her back. Especially things that are…
/r/seduction14/08/22 04:11 PM
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You can just be honest about where you got her number and why you're texting her
/r/seduction14/08/22 04:04 PM
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Well, if she has a boyfriend there's not much else you can do. That being said, I'm proud of you bro, approaching is the scariest part and you did that. And about the number, something you should remember, You're not talking to women so you can get with them. you're talking to them because you want to. Sex is just a bonus. So don't worry about not getting her number, she knows you find her attractive and you had the balls to tell her, that's all that matters right now. I promise you'll get bette…
/r/seduction14/08/22 12:02 AM
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Well, I wouldn't necessarily say that's the best way to look at it, whilst it is true that all friendships and relationships are based on certain things that one person gains from the other that fits their lifestyle (square piece as you said), however don't you think it's unfair to expect someone to fit a role without making it clear that that's what you wanted from them?
/r/seduction12/08/22 04:29 PM
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Telling a woman you want to keep things casual doesn't make you not a nice guy, he's just keeping it real. Which believe it or not women appreciate more than kindness
/r/seduction12/08/22 04:05 PM
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Exactly!!
/r/seduction12/08/22 11:02 AM
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I actually hate people that record themselves giving homeless people money. You're recording this man at probably the lowest point in his life and putting it all over your Instagram. Why?
/r/seduction12/08/22 11:00 AM
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Just be true to yourself bro. Some women will want you and some women will not. Some women will stay with you and some women leave you. That's a rule of life, nothing you can do about that. However the reason it's so frustrating is because you changed who you were for a woman and still got dumped. You got treated like garbage because you were trying so hard to be "nice" that you never set any boundaries. People like to see what they can get away with, even your dog will shit all over the house i…
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:57 AM
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Well he's in a long term relationship not I meant he used to get laid a lot when he was single
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:41 AM
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Because every day I see a "nice guy" posting about how women don't wanna have sex with him
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:40 AM
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Exactly. There's no one I've ever been attracted to that I didn't make it clear to. We can still end up being good friends that never do anything sexual but it'll be no secret that I used to be interested in her.
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:37 AM
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Well, they decide if they WOULD fuck you in the first 15 seconds. Which is honestly the most important part. Whether they're GOING to fuck you, I believe, is a window that begins to close from the moment you introduce from the moment you say hi. That's why it's important to not waste time
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:32 AM
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It's a bit of a catch 22. Women don't go for assholes because they're assholes, just as they don't ignore nice guys because they're nice. I will concede that a lot of assholes have attractive traits like being rich or handsome (which is how they get away with being assholes). However, there are always going to be richer, better looking guys, so you gotta work with what you have. You're right, being a doormat is unattractive, women will respect you if you're nice but still have boundaries that yo…
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:27 AM
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What made you start doing that?
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:20 AM
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You can do both, tell her with words and show her with your actions, as long as you respect if she's not interested.
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:20 AM
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Exactly
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:18 AM
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I understand that, my post was in no way a generalisation, it was specifically referring to men that PRETEND to be nice. You seem like a genuinely good dude and that's something to be proud of
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:18 AM
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Thank you bro
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:15 AM
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No it doesn't bro. This whole post is about guys that pretend to be nice, but if you're genuinely a nice guy then that's something to be proud of and as long as you make yourself clear with women you'll do well
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:15 AM
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Of course there are real nice guys, as I said, if you want to be nice, be nice, but only because that's what YOU want, not because you think it'll get you laid. I know a couple genuinely good guys (to both men and women) and they get laid, because even though they're nice, they make it clear when they're attracted to a woman. That's the main difference, whether you're fake nice or genuinely nice, you can't just sit around hoping she'll finally decide to get with you; what are you doing to make t…
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:10 AM
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The whole point is you can do both. You can do nice things for women and still be clear about the fact that you are interested in them y
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:05 AM
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You've answered your own question though, you've said you have little to no game, so if you have to choose whether that's the reason you aren't into a relationship, vs you being a nice guy.
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:37 AM
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Not necessarily sexual but one that makes it clear you're interested, she can't friendzone you if you make it clear from the jump
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:31 AM
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So I actually said this in response to one of the replies in this thread, "be yourself" isn't bad advice. However the complete sentence, should be "know who you are and be that unapologetically"
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:19 AM
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💯
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:45 AM
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I mean the point of the post was to explain why the nice guy thing doesn't work. But yes that's the general advice
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:42 AM
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Exactly bro, I have a close friend that is nice. Like, actually nice and he has the hottest girlfriend out of the whole friend group
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:13 AM
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No you don't, be whoever you want to be, as long as you're clear with women about what you want, it doesn't matter
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:10 AM
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Try it in real life, I dare you
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:08 AM
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If that's your idea of being clear, this might be the wrong subreddit for you ngl
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:05 AM
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She friendzoned you because you spent weeks giving her attention without making it clear what you want
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:55 PM
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And it works because you embrace who you are. I'm not even gonna lie, I'm a terrible person (hence my user name). I try to do good when I can but you'll never hear me calling myself a nice guy.
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:44 PM
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Exactly, Those are two different things. If you're nice to a woman, you can expect her to be nice back. You can't expect her to suck your dick.
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:43 PM
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The meaning of Seduction on Google is to entice someone to engage in sexual activities. It doesn't mean waiting around pretending to be nice hoping she throws her panties at you
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:42 PM
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Let me ask you, how clear did you make it that you liked it? And how early? Women aren't always going to like you back, but it's better to tell them early
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:35 PM
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Yeah hot women know everyone wants to fuck them but it's different when you're their friend. The trick is to make it clear early on. Don't be blatant. Just tell her you find her attractive if she's not interested that's fine. If you enjoy her company, be friends, if not, move on
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:34 PM
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I mean, they knew the guy wanted to smash, they just didn't know he wasn't planning on sticking around. They're not psychic.
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:28 PM
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But that's not actually true, no woman is with an asshole specifically because he's an asshole, there's many reasons why she might be, for example abusive parents and a skewed belief understanding of love (of which there's not too much you can do about that). The point is, no woman will get with you specifically because you're an asshole and no woman will ignore you specifically because you're nice.
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:27 PM
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They definitely know, they just don't acknowledge it cause they're not interested.
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:23 PM
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Something active. I like mini golf or bowling it's fun and sometimes women like to get competitive, which sets you up for a playful vibe
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:19 PM
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Nah I mean their guy friends. They like to pretend they don't know because sometimes the attention is nice, but they can tell.
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:14 PM
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Exactly, people think being "nice" means you can't declare your intentions and that's simply not true, friends should be friends and people you're interested in should be people you're interested in. That doesn't mean you can't be nice to both of them, you just have to be clear.
/r/seduction11/08/22 10:46 PM
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The advice, "just be yourself", honestly isn't absolutely bullshit, I just think it's incomplete. The full saying should be, "know who you are and be yourself unapologetically". I didn't fully realize it till I got to college and had a close friend that was nice. I mean genuinely nice, to both men and women and surprise surprise he used to get laid.
/r/seduction11/08/22 10:40 PM
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Honestly if that's your strategy, you might as well be wearing a padlock on your junk
/r/seduction11/08/22 10:28 PM
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Literally man. You can't think women owe you sex, that's literally the whole reason why seduction exists. Anyway I'm glad you agree bro
/r/seduction11/08/22 10:10 PM
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Dinner is a terrible first date, almost as bad as going to see a movie.
/r/seduction11/08/22 08:10 PM
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Lmao on God I'm gonna test that out
/r/seduction11/08/22 08:09 PM
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Tell us a bit more about yourself
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:46 AM
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I'm gonna be brutally honest here. There's no such thing as a half toxic, half nice guy. There's a difference between a nice guy and a "nice guy" which I think you are. If you're only nice to girls you find attractive, that doesn't count. You're upset because you expect women to reward you with sex for being nice to them. That being said no one in here is gonna judge you for being toxic, if that works for you then do it
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:13 AM
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Don't worry about rules bro. Game is a concept not a rule. Anything you don't know you can ask them when you approach. Your approach should be adoptable, if she's bad looking then leave, easy
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:02 AM
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???
/r/seduction10/08/22 11:59 PM
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Try it and give us an update!!
/r/seduction10/08/22 11:13 PM
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Brighton, UK, which is probably more liberal than Toronto to be honest. It's also the gay capital of England which makes approaching women pretty easy since they don't immediately assume you wanna fuck them. But yeah quite honestly, almost every time I've gone on a night solo, I've pulled. Day game is a bit different tbh, no one really pulls in the day cause usually they have stuff to do but you can invite them out to a bar later and then pull.
/r/seduction10/08/22 08:44 PM
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I've said this many times, PUA manuals are like the Bible. It has some helpful lessons (don't kill people etc) but if you don't take every single page literally you'll look like a crazy person. In my opinion PUA techniques should only be used when you're starting out and haven't built up your own core confidence, but after that, ditch em.
/r/seduction10/08/22 08:22 PM
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Man, in situations like this, the direct approach is best, your time is valuable, you can't waste it trying to match her energy. Ask her out, decide when and where and message her with those details (you and me at this place at this time, that work for you?). Whether or not she likes you will become very apparent by her reaction, if she makes an excuse and doesn't suggest a day that she's free, then she's probably not interested in going out with you.
/r/seduction10/08/22 07:40 PM
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There's a PUA that calls himself Tyler Durden, I doubt that's his actual name
/r/seduction10/08/22 06:51 PM
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I'm not saying all men are interested in self improvement, but I think it's good to encourage it. If you aren't interested in doing that, then that's your choice. I simply disagree with OP saying it's stupid.
/r/seduction10/08/22 04:44 PM
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Day time lays are incredibly difficult for several reasons, the first one is that we all have this general idea that sex happens at night, so when women go out in the afternoon, they're simply not expecting to have sex. Even worse if they have shit to do later in the day. With girls you know, I recommend going to brunch... I'm serious. Brunch doesn't have the same vibe as lunch, you can really let your game out without looking too eager as compared to a normal lunch and they usually have unlimit…
/r/seduction10/08/22 04:33 PM
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Bro, time is a very valuable resource and that applies to women as well. When I make a decision, I like to divide it into three parts: Learning Earning Enjoying If I'm not learning anything then I'm earning something and if it doesn't pay me anything, then I'm enjoying myself, but if I'm not getting any of those, then why the fuck am I doing it? You said you carry the conversation so you're not practicing your conversation skills, she's obviously not paying you and you don't even seem to enjoy t…
/r/seduction10/08/22 02:51 PM
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Oh 100%, one of the best strategies I've used when going out alone (especially at clubs), is to just be honest.. When she asks "where are your friends?", I say "I don't have any" and unless she's not interested at all, she'll probably invite me to join her friends. When I meet them, I game (friendly) everyone in the group (especially if there's males in the group too), then get back to flirting with my primary target. Now I've basically neutralised her friends as a hurdle and I can game her free…
/r/seduction10/08/22 02:34 PM
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I wouldn't say PUA advice is complete bullshit, I think it only works if you take it with a grain of salt. It's like the Bible, it has a couple good lessons; don't kill people, don't lie, don't fuck people's wives etc. But if you follow every single thing in there, you're gonna act like a crazy person. The same thing goes for these canned lines and openers, if you copy them straight from the book, chances are they'll make you look weird and if she recognises one of them that's game over.
/r/seduction10/08/22 02:22 PM
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My best success has been solo. Almost every time I've ever gone to the club by myself I've pulled. Can't say the same for when I'm with my friends.
/r/seduction10/08/22 02:02 PM
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I don't agree with the idea that you have to be their type. Women's "type" becomes very loose when they're having a good time with you. They do view men in a utilitarian way, I'll concede that and attraction forms only a very small part of utility. Men that are fun and flirty and great to talk to are far more rare than men that are conventionally attractive. For women, short term relationships are all about the experience. That's why game works. It capitalises on something for which scarcity exi…
/r/seduction10/08/22 10:07 AM
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I absolutely agree with you there. You should only do these things for yourself. I think when approaching pickup you should start by fixing your outer game and getting it to the point you need to. It's a lot easier to focus on improving yourself when you already know you can get laid whenever you want and a direct approach is the best way to do that so I agree with you there.
/r/seduction10/08/22 09:46 AM
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That's a self-esteem issue and trust me man, getting laid isn't gonna fix that. How do you expect women to find you interested if you yourself don't believe you're interesting. I think you have a lot of outcome dependency which is fucking your whole game up. So if you're willing to listen, let me make a suggestion: Spend the next few days talking to women... I'm serious. And I mean JUST talking. Approach women during the day and just have a conversation with them, then go about your day. Don't a…
/r/seduction10/08/22 09:28 AM
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The point I was making is that no one's changing their lifestyle to get laid. That's not the point. You are right, improvement is relative to your lifestyle, but no one's saying you have to do all those things. I personally don't go to the gym, because I don't want to, I'm not interested in getting jacked, but I understand why someone would give that advice because exercise is good for your mental health. We all want to get laid but we also want to have a community that encourages growth. I unde…
/r/seduction10/08/22 09:20 AM
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I'm happy that your ability to attract women has improved, but I think you're missing the point of why we do this. I first got into pickup a few years ago before I started university. Now my outer game has vastly improved and to be honest with you, if I wanna get laid today, I can. I have no FWBs to call, no one I'm talking to, but I know if I want to, I can go out and make that happen. Now, my outer game is good, but what about my inner game? Men aren't getting jacked or working on their career…
/r/seduction10/08/22 09:02 AM
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I think the thing you're missing is self improvement is seduction. There are 2 components to what we call "game". Inner game and Outer game. Outer game refers to how you approach and the things you say to women. Inner game refers to the fundamentals you work on within yourself to become more attractive. Seeing game only as a tool to manipulate women is a very one dimensional approach. The reason we say go out and have fun is because, you know what women love? Fun and they will go pretty much any…
/r/seduction10/08/22 08:46 AM
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The thing you have to remember, especially in bar/club environments, is that it's completely arbitrary. Some women will find you attractive and some won't. Those kinds of places are in no way a reflection of whether or not you're desirable. I know that's easy for me to say but I think the best way to get over rejection is to spend a few nights talking to as many girls as you can, if you get rejected, immediately move to another one. It'll teach you that these conversations are worthless, they do…
/r/seduction10/08/22 08:35 AM
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I'm not entirely sure what your question is. More specifically why are you unsure about inviting him? Is it the age gap? The fact that you live with your parents? What is it? The only real problem I see here is that your friends are making you pay them for condoms lmfao
/r/seduction10/08/22 08:26 AM
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I think you've got a little outcome dependency going on. You're overthinking because you're worried the conversation won't go "well" and because you're comparing it to how you used to game before getting into a relationship. That's not the way to approach it. Why don't you try talking to women. I mean JUST talking to them, not trying to get their number or close... just talking. For a few days or weeks, just try approaching women, simply having a conversation, saying your goodbyes and then carry…
/r/seduction09/08/22 10:54 PM
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Women only care about height on the internet.
/r/seduction09/08/22 10:40 PM
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I understand how overwhelmed you feel but your frustration is working against you. Problem is, it forms a cycle: you can't get a girlfriend - > you become frustrated because you can't get a girlfriend -> your frustration makes it harder for you to connect with women -> you can't get a girlfriend.... You have to work on yourself bro, women can smell desperation from a mile away, I'm really not joking man, you're never gonna get a girlfriend if you carry on like this. That being said, to be honest…
/r/seduction09/08/22 10:37 PM
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Most of them are between 21 and 26 (I'm 26). To answer your second question, I'm not ugly, about 6'1", kinda skinny, but overall I wouldn't say bad looking. I think you're misunderstanding my point, good looks help, 100%, but only in certain situations, for example in a club, women can't hear you talking to them anyway, so the only thing they'll go by is looks (and maybe how good of a dancer you are), but in normal day to day game, which OP seems to be talking about, looks are just a foot in the…
/r/seduction09/08/22 06:43 PM
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That's not true either. Some of the hottest girls I know have ugly boyfriends (and before you say it, no they're not rich). When I was still single, I used to get hotter girls than some of my better looking friends. The simple truth is unless you're like, super ugly, looks only matter if you don't have game.
/r/seduction09/08/22 06:21 PM
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I didn't say they don't matter, I said they're not as important as people think. Lots of people think if you're not good looking you can't get laid and that's simply not true.
/r/seduction09/08/22 06:13 PM
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I completely get that. I agree with the point of your post, I think he only part I disagreed with was that your reason for wanting to do something shouldn't be because other people do it. You should start waking up early because that will improve your timetable and give you more time to do what you need to do. You should go to the gym because exercise is good for your physical and mental health etc etc People are more likely to do something if they understand why they need to do it, rather than …
/r/seduction09/08/22 02:07 PM
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Being sociable is just one part, as important as it is to know how to talk to people, that's just a skill that can be learnt, personality is something that has to come from inside. A good way to start is to talk about your hobbies. What do you like and why? What are you passionate about? It doesn't really matter what it is, as long as it's not too weird it's a great way to demonstrate your personality. Being good looking does not motivate people to want to know about your life. Think about it, y…
/r/seduction09/08/22 11:51 AM
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Appearance really isn't as important as people think. Sure women are more likely to listen to what you have to say but that's as far as it goes. The main thing you've relied on to try and get women is your appearance. How much work into improving your personality? Like no offense dude, but if women don't wanna sleep with you despite your looks, you're probably not as good at conversation as you think you are, which is OK, focus on that.
/r/seduction09/08/22 11:36 AM
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Honestly no one can tell you how to open, what kind of game do you use? Are you funny? Are you upfront? If that's how you are then use something that you think is good, as long as it's not some cheeseball line or creepy, you'll be fine. They matched with you for a reason, don't doubt yourself
/r/seduction09/08/22 11:27 AM
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I don't agree. Mindset is great and it's a major part of your own internal game. Where you're going wrong is trying to base your mindset on how other people think and act, rather than improving your own locus of self-esteem. "Those guys" act that way because THEY see themselves that way. So let me ask you, how do you see yourself? The lowest value you can be is by changing your personality specifically because you think it'll get you laid. That's why "nice guys" don't get any pussy, because they…
/r/seduction09/08/22 10:01 AM
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Well, if you've already been on 2 dates, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that she's flaking, but you should keep an eye out for that, suggest going out next week and see her response. If she doesn't seem to be looking forward to it, stop making an effort. Maybe keep her around if you like, but don't be invested in talking to her or making plans
/r/seduction09/08/22 09:50 AM
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I wouldn't say a everywhere is sausage fest. Really depends where you are and where you go. I live in England and in the city I'm in, I've found that women aren't as adventurous when it comes to clubbing as men; they find one spot they like and just go there all the time and usually other women choose those same places for the same reasons; maybe the music is good, maybe they feel safe, maybe there aren't too many guys hitting on them (like us lmfao). When I was in university there was this club…
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:33 AM
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I wouldn't exactly say you missed a signal, her actions simply reflect that she was comfortable enough to make physical contact with you, however, if you had gradually escalated, there's a fair chance you could've done something with her. Going off topic a bit, if you were feeling anxious and paranoid, maybe you weren't in the best mindset for sex either way and I tell anyone that ever asks me for advice; always put your headspace first. I don't care how hot she is, if I'm not feeling up to it, …
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:18 AM
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With group game, you need to stop thinking of it as the girl you want... and her friends. You need to start thinking of it as a group that contains that contains the girl that you want. So you have to cold approach the whole group (that includes the men if it's a mixed group). This is especially true in a bar setting. Remember your goal is to separate her from the group, but the simple fact is her friends are gonna wanna make sure she's safe and having a good time, otherwise they're gonna be a p…
/r/seduction08/08/22 09:18 PM
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Try this link https://www.reddit.com/user/Going_to_hell123/comments/wjiayj/why_you_might_be_approaching_game_the_wrong_way/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction08/08/22 07:53 PM
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Real recognize real 😂
/r/seduction08/08/22 07:52 PM
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Yeah man here's the link, hope it helps https://www.reddit.com/user/Going_to_hell123/comments/wjiayj/why_you_might_be_approaching_game_the_wrong_way/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction08/08/22 07:50 PM
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If you're interested in reading it, there's a post I wrote about how you should approach the game and books about pickup. https://www.reddit.com/user/Going_to_hell123/comments/wjiayj/why_you_might_be_approaching_game_the_wrong_way/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction08/08/22 06:42 AM
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Well, you don't need to make friends. Obviously it helps, having friends will boost your social skills which in turn helps your ability to attract women. As for the dating apps, don't worry too much about that mate, with the way those algorithms work, once they decide you're don't have a "good" profile, you're pretty much fucked. Where to start? start from the beginning man, practice starting conversations with strangers in very basic ways and there's many ways to do that, even something as simp…
/r/seduction08/08/22 06:38 AM
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Glad I could help man, I'd love to get an update
/r/seduction08/08/22 06:11 AM
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I think something people forget is that even though you matched on a dating app, these women are strangers, meaning that they will not give you the benefit of the doubt with your jokes. You have to gauge their sense of humour and make the appropriate jokes for it. The reason you have a hard time is because you tell jokes that YOU think are funny, which is ultimately the goal but remember, they don't know you so they don't actually know what you find funny, so start simple, dad jokes are stupid b…
/r/seduction08/08/22 03:32 AM
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Age is not something you wanna fuck around with, mate. You talk to a girl, you ask her how old she is, simple as that, if she has a problem with that, she's probably a minor so question answered either way.
/r/seduction08/08/22 03:01 AM
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Most girls do not like overly muscular guys, being reasonably in shape is enough.
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:33 AM
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Idk man, my type of game is funny flirty and that's almost exactly what I would say in that situation but it seems yours is a bit different, so what kind of message are you actually looking for, "flirty" is too broad bro
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:31 AM
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Lemme think, maybe something along the lines of "that's great! I'm scared too, I'm probably gonna jump on you if we hear a sound, hope you can carry me 😂"
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:24 AM
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Ohhh I guess I misunderstood bro🤷🏾‍♂️ so what do you need help with if you weren't planning on taking her hiking?
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:19 AM
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Thanks bro, I try my hardest 😂
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:11 AM
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Okay, so hiking is a bit out there, unless she's really really into hiking, I suggest you at least meet her in a fairly public place before taking her out to a secluded place where help is not readily available (see how creepy that sounds) . Allow me to demonstrate: "you ever been hiking alone?" "no, I'd be too scared😅" "Okay, you ever had coffee?" "yeah, of course 😂" "okay, coffee first, then we go hiking, how's Tuesday looking for you?" You met on a dating app, if she's attractive, she's proba…
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:07 AM
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Honestly you gotta force yourself. When I first started, I'd just force my feet to start walking until I was in front of her before I even knew what I was going to say and doing that gives you exactly 2 options: Start a conversation. Just stand in front of her and look like a weirdo. Now, the trick is to always think of them as practice. You're not trying to fuck them, just practice and in fact, what you'll find is that really hot women are actually very friendly. This is because a lot of men, l…
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:49 PM
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You were right to not mention the bathing suit lmfao. maybe next time make a joke about the book, granted its pretty hard to come up with a good one but something like "hi, I'm a coast guard and I just came over here to tell you this isn't a library", bit risky I know, but if she has a good sense of humour she'll laugh. I think beach game is very similar to bar game (not club), you simply don't know whether or not it'll work so there's no point thinking about it, in the grand scheme of things, 1…
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:36 PM
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Women tend to notice you long before you approach (especially if you're at least reasonably handsome), so sitting near them and waiting before approaching looks way more weird than simply walking straight up to them. Just sit where you wanna sit and if you see a girl you like, don't hesitate, walk up to her and open the conversation. I like to start with something arbitrary that she wasn't expecting, "I'm not sure if anyone's told you this, but that is a banging sun hat, where'd you get it?", "o…
/r/seduction07/08/22 08:36 PM
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The first thing you wanna do is steer the conversation away from work, whilst it may seem like an easy conversation starter, only talking about work will just lead to you being her "work friend", which is no bueno. What you wanna do next time you see her is build a rapport that doesn't involve work, what I like to do is make jokes about what she does in her free time "you're always running so fast around here, what do are you doing in your free time? Crack?", that's just an example but if you fr…
/r/seduction07/08/22 08:21 PM
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