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Red Pill TheoryGuitarsAreGettingOld/r/TheRedPill27/10/16 12:08 AM
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Exactly. While my mother threatened suicide to keep my father in the abusive marriage when my dad said that maybe divorce would be the best option... and the hospital staff was cheering her on after the fake suicide attempt. An ex of mine threatened me with suicide after I broke up, too. Screw all that fucking "men are abusive and manipulative"-noise. Not buying it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:31 PM
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Doesn't really make sense. You diss the men who are struggling with dating in real-life because men on the internet talk shit about women and are pumping and dumping them? If the "struggling men" you know are pumping and dumping women and are talking shit about them then it makes sense, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:43 AM
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Not everyone wants to listen to their sob stories, I agree. And that's completely fine. Especially when they are an internet stranger. That's why I said the indifference on PPD isn't the problem. The problem is the indifference men face in their real life. A lack of empathy and sympathy even by (female) friends. PPD just reminds us of that. Personally, I think what bothers people the most is the tone of incels and mgtows whenever they complain about women. There are so many resentment, albeit fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 08:29 AM
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it's hard to care too much about the "plight" of straight western men living in the first world whose biggest complaint is that he can't find a woman to fuck him, yknow? Has it ever occured to you that many of these straight western men have been bullied, too? And that many of them are suicidal, too? And that "being lonely" is something on top of all the other issues? And that it's much harder to deal with issues when you don't have somebody who loves you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:30 AM
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Nothing much would happen because it is just a symptom. Women don't understand men, don't want to understand men and don't try to understand men. If they did, there would be more happy couples and there would be less frustrated men. Feeling understood makes you feel less frustrated. PPD doesn't really understand that all the threads and comments about "women not caring about men's plights" are not a call to reddit empathy and a "please show some sympathy online". It's the answer to the questions…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:11 AM
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Preach brother!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:01 PM
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women should just yawn and go back to doing our nails? That's what they do. And that's why men should have never cared about women's issues. They should have just yawned and gone back to watching football. But unfortunately as history shows, men did care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:49 PM
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Oh, I wasn't really trying to make a point tbh. I was just surprised that you said you don't see women at the skate park.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:36 PM
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Are there a lot of teenage women there? Yes, definitely. I am too old to hang out there, but I walk by regularly and there are always teenage women who sit around and talk and mire the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:32 PM
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I can't understand how anybody could seriously try to deny this. Mind blown.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:27 PM
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Exactly. Exactly this. And this is why #MeToo is taken seriously when men should just hashtag it with #NotMyProblem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:23 PM
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Maybe they do it to impress their male friends, but there aren't any women at the skate park. The skate park in my city is like a breeding ground for teenagers, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:21 PM
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Wasn't he also a major asshole? Driving a guy into suicide kind of asshole IIRC.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:19 PM
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Women are always surprised and ask why they are supposed to empathise with men's plights. The answer is easy. Most beta men inherently care about women, individually and collectively. At least before taking the red pill. They really feel bad when women get pumped and dumped or sexually harrassed or struggle as a single mother. They do stupid shit like attending "stop violence against women"-events for example. They don't even consciously think about it, they feel sympathy for women and they do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:16 PM
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I disagree that males care about females collectively, Beta males do. I think they care about protecting people and being responsible, which can manifest itself in that way. That too. But not only that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:00 PM
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I think this little thing sums it up pretty well Wow, that's a good one and yes, sums it up perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:50 PM
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Why would females care about the collective sexual success of the male population? Short answer: Most beta guys do inherently care about women collectively. That's why they feel betrayed once they find out that women don't care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:47 PM
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Come on, calling it sad and calling it pathetic are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:41 PM
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But how exactly would we go about "accommodating" them? Read the comment chain again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:34 PM
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You are right and the only thing you can do is to hashtag your life with "notmyproblem" for whenever women's issues are brought up. Just tell them it's not the end of the world when they are sexually harrassed or whatever. You don't have a clue how bad it is because it has never happened to you, but you just assume that it can't be that bad. And then you lecture them on why it isn't that bad. Try it in real-life, too. That's where women usually tend to open up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:33 PM
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Probably because patronising and lecturing them is more fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:21 PM
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It's sad that there are so many men who can't find love or validation from the opposite sex This is more than enough and far more than what guys usually get. Just acknowledging it as really sad is good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:13 PM
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Funny how most only address sex in the replies when you explicitly said "sex and romance" in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:04 PM
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The algorithm is pretty useful - at first it shows your profile to many many women to give you about 7 likes per week then it stops favoring you. Then the ratio of how many likes you get and how many likes you give out decides how often you are shown. Omg, good to know. This explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 01:24 PM
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Not correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:36 PM
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Not misogynistic enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:17 PM
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Edit: lol just got a fucking match already, after using the thing idly for like an hour, this is easy. Tinder works like gambling machines. You always win when you are a beginner and then suddenly it doesn't work anymore. Your mileage may vary, of course, Mr. Sexybeast. I just fired Tinder up again for the first time in ages just to see if I can still get matches and hey I got one, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:12 PM
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and boy did it make me angry and rekindle my hatred for men I thought I got over. Keep the fire burning
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:34 AM
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Aw, thank you so much! : ) And you timed it perfectly. Our family's cat has fallen very ill and I am taking care of her atm. The gif you linked to was perfect for this moment. The mother cat even looks like Pebbles. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:10 PM
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You are correct. After the anger phase, red pillers should only be explaining, not complaining. Swallowing the pill is one thing, digesting it another.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:09 AM
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Wait you are already 37? 0.0 No wonder I have an image of you as a wise, elder guy. XD Hey, I never claimed different! Always said "mid-thirties". And my last birthday wasn't that long ago, so... ...yeah, still wise elder guy. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:57 AM
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And if you start off as a clueless fucktoy, and then get some actual beta stability and comfort skills... If you start off as clueless fucktoy, you won't be drawn to TRP. Simple as that. That's what blue pillers don't seem to understand. We know that we aren't talking to clueless fucktoys, we know that we are talking to clueless beta guys. Or if you're reliable and a hard worker, but need predictability to the point where you're failing at creating excitement, romance and even basic empathy - su…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:55 AM
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Yeah, it gets frustrating if you still suck at things. I once try drawing but I gave up because I can only copy from a photo. :/ If you are really interested in drawing, consider checking out the book "Drawing on the right side of the brain". I have only skimmed through it, because I don't draw. But my brother does and he gave me the book because it explains how your brain works and how you have to approach drawing three dimensional things on a two dimensional medium like paper. (Drawing from a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:04 AM
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I only lose motivation to work on something if I don't know how to get better at it, don't make any progress or when I completely lose interest in the topic. For example, I think most people quit the gym because they follow a routine that sucks and/or doesn't give results. And they neglect diet because they don't know how important it is. Or take guitars skills. I only struggle with motivation if I go through a phase where I don't even enjoy listening to music. When I am into music I never strug…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 03:35 AM
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I never understood that. If you start out as a typical beta and then add some RP to your life, you'll have the perfect combination of alpha and beta traits to succeed in an LTR. LTRs are easy-mode anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:09 AM
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But I walked out after 30 minutes tonight of one or two word answers and her constantly being on her phone. Well done!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:01 AM
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Respect to OP for actually engaging in discussion and replying to all the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:57 AM
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"Holy shit, dating sucks and I don't want to do it like that anymore, [...], my starting position as a man/ beta is so bad that I earned the right to be selfish to make up for it." Can't speak for other red pillers, but yeah, I can identify with that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:54 AM
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I like the idea. But the tribunal should not only give a rating but an extensive review of the subjects that tells the individuals exactly what they need do to make themselves more attractive. Beyond just "lose weight". Everything from posture to hairstyle to whatever you can think of. I have often said that it would be great if we had an in-built SMV/RMV meter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 09:13 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 09:02 PM
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"Looks don't matter." Got that a lot. Not that I believed it. I always knew that looks do matter. But I always understood that it meant "you are unattractive but don't worry, looks don't matter."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 10:09 AM
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Have some dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 11:27 PM
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Beautiful. I don't know if I can add anything, I think I'll rest my case for now. But I co-sign everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 10:59 PM
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It's not a shit-test, but it's like a shit-test. Don't take it seriously, don't let it affect you and don't let them pull you into their frame. And you'll be more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:10 PM
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These women made it possible for me to have the only career I ever dreamed of. I had to work unbelievably hard to get here, but there was no ‘here’ before they opened the doors. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:04 PM
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Thank you. Watching now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:59 PM
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Feminism Are there any feminist wins on youtube? With "wins" I mean debates or talkshows where a feminist wins the discussion with their arguments. I am asking because there are tons of feminist fails videos on youtube where they get completely destroyed by their opponents. I can't find a single one where the feminist wins because I have no idea how to search youtube for it. If anybody has links or an idea which searchwords to use, I'd appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:47 PM
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Haha, yeah, true!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:24 PM
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The funny thing with prostitution is that most women think: "Only pathetic guys who can't get laid have to pay for sex." In reality it's the players who go to brothels, just because sex is nothing special to them. Just a fun activity. They don't have any problems getting laid. They still go to prostitutes. Relationship minded guys don't go to brothels even during a dry spell because they think sex is something special.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:21 PM
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Be yourself. Duh. That ofc means becoming a national kickboxing champion who is ripped AND teaches kids! That's the lady magnet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:09 PM
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When a woman says something like "it sucks, men only think about sex all the time", never say something like "no that's not true. Many men are different and don't only think about sex." (Don't say it even if that's your real opinion). Say "I think about sex all the time, too" instead. I got that advice from a friend who was a real player and I have used it a lot. Doesn't sound spectacular, but women don't expect it from someone who is a typical beta nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:08 PM
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True, but there is a great approach you can take to shorten the vetting process and to see if she is really interested in you. Just tell her that you are not looking for something serious right now and that it means it won't work out with you two. If she is interested in you, she will say "we could just try and see where it goes". Basically FWB. And dates with her will suddenly be fun because she will try to win you over. No hoop-jumping for you anymore. Works like a charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 05:32 PM
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But what I would suggest (to women, that is) that once you are around the age of 25, you should be with the guy you want to marry 25-28, yes and all the "there is no wall"-fans appear to be talking about exactly this approach. They are not thinking of women who start looking for a stable guy in their 30s. But the latter is what rp is talking about. Of course the wall doesn't matter if she is already in an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:16 PM
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Okay, watched it. Damn. So much cringe. Hehe, I remember taiboworks, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:33 PM
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Can confirm. That's usually how it's playing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:48 PM
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Thanks for reading and answering. Tbh, you're kind of hard to figure out, bro. Don't mean that negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:45 PM
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No, I have seen the adamruinsit about alphas and betas and don't feel like watching any other stuff by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:44 PM
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The biggest challenge is convincing them that they are hooked up with a Cluster B personality. Competing with a cluster B personality is hard. Competing with a cluster B personality they have sex with is next to impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 02:08 PM
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On top of that, it's fun. Especially in an environment like the PPD community. But reading an "mbti debunked"-article and then educating everybody that "it is debunked. I could as well ask you what your star sign is, hurr durr" seems to be the idea of fun for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 02:00 PM
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Truth be told, sometimes I'm actually kinda envious of people who can spend their vacation just partying or chilling on the beach, without the compulsive need to see or do something new everyday. I made a whole post about that! I noticed that many incels and many TRPers share exactly the trait you describe!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 01:53 PM
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Ha ha: Her sister was hotter (fraternal twins not identical, although some people had trouble telling them apart). I met my fiance online a year ago and we are getting married next month. I know. Dude, I even remember that you once were in that rare spot where you had no problems finding casual sex, but had trouble finding a woman who wanted to marry you. You were living the incel's wet dream! One interesting dynamic is what I refer to metaphorically as "incestual". You have a bunch of people wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 01:47 PM
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Omg, I didn't know that subreddit. Dying of laughter now, it's hilarious, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 01:36 PM
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Have you used /r/Malefashionadvice ? They’re a good “female fashion friend” surrogate. But why would I use a female fashion friend surrogate when I can easily summon real-life female fashion friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:16 PM
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Don't get me wrong, but this sounds like you are moralising. I know that you actually like to see and do stuff when traveling (I remember that you did a lot of stuff during your last trip), but ask yourself...do you feel that traveling like Greasy suggests is somehow "wrong"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:12 PM
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I agree. TRP is right that most guys should become more masculine, but at that age and depending on one's body type, face and personality, going the cute/feminine/pretty boy route can be the better option. I think looks-wise he did everything right and shouldn't have had any problems with girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:20 AM
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Thanks for the detailed response. If you’re out on the “cold” dating market, you should probably consider dressing with the purpose of “finding stuff that girls are attracted to” rather than just “wearing stuff I personally like”. Yup. I just think that everybody should try to find a happy medium between "what girls are attracted to" and "what I like and feel comfortable in". I think that whatever you wear, people should see that you put at least some thought/effort in. Grabbing some shirts from…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:04 AM
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THANK YOU! Really...I do know that many social circles work in a way that brings a constant ebb and flow of single girls. But why does the thought that there are awesome social circles that don't have a constant ebb and flow of single girls seem so completely alien to most blue pillers? I don't get it. A lot of people bitch about online dating but I've had at least as many good experiences as bad ones. I love online dating. My best LTR came out of a cold approach at a dive-bar/club. My other two…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 10:36 AM
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Baby goats... That's a tough one. It depends on your overall diet. If you mostly avoid high-glycemic stuff like kitten and baby seal videos, you should be okay. Just keep it in moderation. I'd do IIFYM ("If it fits your macros"). Don't go too much into the micronutrients, don't worry about stuff like biddy vs duckling vs puppies...yet. Just keep the overall balance with about 60% TRP and far-right politics, 20% reality-TV and 20% whatever-you-like. Damn, you'll go places...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 10:28 AM
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You could try doing three sets of 7 minutes instead of one max-rep set of 15 minutes as a workout to increase endurance. Use aggressive music (for example Disturbed) during your workouts to get pumped. You should reach your genetic hate limit after about 6 months of serious training, don't even think about steroids until you have maxed out your natural gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:55 AM
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But you two clearly do see it - so let's agree to disagree Hey, it's not disagreeing. It's just having different real-life experiences. Most of you young guys and girls just haven't seen enough fucked up stuff yet. Hope you'll never get there! btw, most red pillers see it as the loaden gun principle no ? The post of exit_sandman wasn't even posted in TheRedPill, only in PurplePillDebate Yeah, but...erm...how can I say it...well... Sands and I know stuff. We really do. Know stuff. Red pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:42 AM
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More like women price themselves out of the dating market and when she wants to settle down all the men she would demeaned datable are well taken. Yeah, but sometimes even the ones she didn't and doesn't really find datable are already taken and/or only see her as pump and dump material. The problem is that even if she is willing to date one league below what she sees as her league, it isn't enough. She would have to date two or three leagues down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:35 AM
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My gf is 160cm tall and loses her periods around 45kg Hurray, real numbers! 45kg is really low. Can you get there without an eating disorder, health problems, drugs and/or excessive workouts/activities? I think it is possible for a female ectomorphs, yeah. But that body type isn't that common. 55kg is pretty much safe at most heights. But most people don't have to worry about. You don't just wake up one day and are too skinny. Just like you don't wake up one day and are too buff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:31 AM
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Not at 110 pounds. Not even if she is tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 07:42 AM
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"Woman tries to go the AFBB route. Eventually it's too late, she realises she can't even get a BB" is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:57 AM
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Well no shit, go get a better social circle. So good social circle = social circle with bangable women? Why can't blue pillers imagine that some social circles can be really awesome but just happen to not have many/any single women in it? I didn't choose my friends for their match-making qualities. You probably didn't neither, you just had luck. Try online dating or matchmakers or something, and be authentic. I have. Btw, I am not an incel, I spent most of my 20s in LTRs. The thing is, I know th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 03:59 AM
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That's dating on easy mode. You have no idea how dating can suck when you have an active social life and a good circle of friends, but no single women among friends and friends of friends. And you have to actively think about what you have to do to meet potential partners. That's when it stops being fun. If you have never been there, you can't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 03:29 AM
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I am pretty sure they copy-pasted the guy's face on another dude's body. Pro tip: Look at the nipples. (I know, ewwww).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 03:14 AM
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You mentioned it as a good example of progress. Does it not look photoshopped and roided to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 02:34 AM
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I'm in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 01:56 AM
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Since guitars mentioned my description of AWALT I'll never get tired of mentioning it because I am sick and tired of the "all guns are loaded"-simplification. I rage every time. That doesn't even come close to what AWALT really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 01:00 AM
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Sounds good in theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:57 AM
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I gladly play Captain Hindsight for them. This is funny on so many levels, lol. I like your humanitarian side.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:53 AM
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heart emoticon (Too alpha to use actual heart emoticon) I can dig it because I hate women as a gender, but I don't really hate individual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:09 AM
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Good job!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:03 AM
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The pictures make me sad. And they look exactly like the ones in every other style makeover app I have ever seen. I just can't believe that dressing like that is supposed to be attractive. There are one or two that I like, but I don't get the appeal of the other stuff. I am glad that I always got by with jeans, t-shirt and sneakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:56 PM
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Oh dear...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:38 PM
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He should of chosen a different example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:34 PM
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No, these people are very, very average. No, they are not. does that mean black pillers and the most adamant and hardcore red pillers [...] consider themselves to be 5/10s when they're 2/10s lol No it doesn't, because blue pillers agree with me that the man and the woman you linked to are above average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:27 PM
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average man average woman Waaayyyy above average. Both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:21 PM
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To be fair, I think this has changed a bit over the past two years. (Rough estimate). At least online. There's less you go gurl than before. And I have the impression that many people don't remember how fucking many "you go girl"s where given out regularly only about 5 years ago. You go girl for anything and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:12 PM
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You don't have the male x-ray gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:08 PM
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Yup. The thing is, it's not even about bringing an individual's weight up. I personally don't fat-shame women because I know how difficult it can be for them to lose weight. I also know that many of them were stuffed by their parents when they were young. I know that men have a biological advantage and can eat much more than women without gaining weight and thanks to testosterone we can burn fat much faster. In short, I don't look down on over-weight women at all. Individual women being fat isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:02 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 10:31 PM
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It's true. You can do a lot. That last guy in particular in your links - he went from unattractive to highly attractive. I think he went from unattractive to photoshopped and steroids, lol. He won't need 'game' or [...] Trp acknowledges that. We call it the "beta allowance scale". You can get away with more and more beta stuff the better you look. We also know that you'll get less shit-tests and AWALT stuff thrown your way the better you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 10:22 PM
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And if she doesn't complain about being an incel that's all fine. It would be fine if this attitude wasn't widespread and shaped the dating experience of many men and women. I don't care what a random women writes on her blog. She can whine and complain all she wants. The complaining isn't the problem. The problem is that this is actually happening in real-life and makes men and women frustrated with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 10:12 PM
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Lol, yeah, depends on what kind of asshole behavior it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:59 PM
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The girl in the article average 30+yo woman believes she should be wined and dined and entertained. ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:48 PM
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Ah, yeah, that would be close.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:47 PM
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Lol. Good job on putting this together. Share your emotions but don't over-share. Laugh with me but don't make stupid jokes. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:40 PM
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given all the different pieces and components needed, he was presented at the store with 6,512,000 possible combinations. Insane! Dafuq, wow!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:36 PM
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So a ot of these women are dating men they believe are their equals when in fact they are not. --> Everything that is wrong with the dating market in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:33 PM
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Yup 101 sounds about right as the low-end. Would not recommend going lower than that. But I don't think that 101 is close to 110 at all. A 9 pound difference when you are already skinny is huge. Both in effort to lose that 9 pounds and in looks. Not that it really matters. 110 looks great on most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:27 PM
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I would never lose 40 pounds. 110 is the low end of the healthy weight range for someone who is 5'2". Who says that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:13 PM
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Stop patroniZing them. evil grin
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:06 PM
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Of course TRP acknowledges it. The obesity crisis is a real problem because many women become undatable while many overweight men are still one's competitor. The lack of butterfaces is the real reason why dating sucks for men. True story.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:36 PM
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Incorporate waist size! Seconded!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:22 PM
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I don't think people hate RP because they're non-systemizers, It's just one of the reasons. But a reason that is not as obvious as others, so it's worth pointing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:11 PM
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I think you have to be careful Of course you have to be careful. It should never be fake or patronizing. One of my female friends actually said that she doesn't make compliments just because she is afraid that it might come across as fake and patronizing even when she really means it. I understand that. And I said to her that most guys just take that risk. Both the risk of looking dumb when making the wrong compliment and the risk of making her feel uncomfortable. Making compliments should be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:10 PM
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True. Do guys try to compliment their girlfriends about stuff that matters to the girl? Oh yes! This is a perfect example for beta nice guy "game". Finding out what she is proud of or figuring out what she is self-conscious about and then making a compliment which addresses exactly that is typical nice guy flirting. It's what they are proud of and what they mean when they are talking about being "good guys" who are not appreciated compared to the alleged jerks out there. Compliments is an intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:46 PM
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The ones who understand do. Many don't. They make compliments they themselves would like to hear. Not with bad intentions, they just don't know what men like to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:27 PM
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Yeah, I remember a post you made where you talked about how some people only hate rp because they are non-systematizers. Sounded right to me, because without the lingo and systematizing you can talk about rp concepts in real-life and nobody takes issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:26 PM
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Just understanding it and dropping some compliments here and there like "your workouts are paying off, your arms look nice" would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:15 PM
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Women1 - though IMO the checkered girl is above average Good example. They are below-average on reddit, but they are above average and treated as such in real-life. Women2 Perfectly average. "A dressed up woman, lots of make-up and hair-styling...take that away, what are you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:01 PM
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Glad you remembered that metaphor hahah Of course I do. : ) If I would believe that RP guys only met such women, then yes I would understand that. However, I really really do not believe they do Okay, this is a good opportunity to talk about the often misunderstood AWALT. The author of the article is exactly what AWALT ist. As you say, she is like a parody of everything red pillers say about 30+ women. /u/exit_sandman came up with the perfect definition: "AWALT is the ideal type of the adversari…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:42 PM
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: )
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:52 PM
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True, but I think that men would enjoy the provider role if they got mad respect for it. If their efforts were appreciated and if they got treated better than some random player for being a provider, many or even most men would gladly take on that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:44 PM
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The men felt less judged by their same-sex friends when they expressed emotion This is not true in my experience. You do get judged by female friends when you express emotion. But there is actually a big difference in being judged for other stuff you do in my experience. In my social circles, men judge their friends much more for their behavior than women. For example, if I am an asshole to a stranger, my male friends would call me out on it. My female friends don't really care as long as I am n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:36 PM
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If you believe that rp guys actually met a lot of women like her in real-life and know how to game her with amused mastery, deal with her shit-tests, understand what they have to do to be attractive to her... ...can you understand that "they are still angry at the bike" a bit better?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:27 PM
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It's interesting, here in Germany, the connotation is pretty much exactly how /u/eastuss describes it. Generally positive. And even if it is used in a condescending sentence it serves as a moderator to make it less condescending. Being called young man by elders is a real compliment most of the time. Often feels like they want to say "dashing young man".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:14 PM
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Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 03:58 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:57 AM
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Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:56 AM
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Plenty of people have said that, throughout all of history. Oh, don't get me wrong, there's plenty of stuff to worry about. The whole world is going down the drain. But online stuff only shows that there are problems in the real world. It doesn't cause problems in my opinion. but I've been watching the rise of militant philosophies, reliably growing from every form of far right fundamentalism. I see it as a symptom of the whole world going down the drain. I am with alreadyredschool who said in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:02 AM
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Makes sense, doesn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 01:53 AM
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Yeah, I saw that comment later. It's still..."different". I cant explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 01:49 AM
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You don't need to be worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 01:02 AM
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Do none of the men here entertain the idea that THEY could be the best she's ever had? It's a bit difficult to explain. You can feel that you are the best "full package" she's ever had. So yeah, objectively the best. But that's not really what makes men (generalising here of course) feel "I am the best she's ever had". And I am not only talking about dick-size here, lol. I think women and men feel differently in this regard. Women seem to like it when they are seen as "the perfect package" while…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:48 AM
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She had ONS, FWB-ships, STRs and casual flings with guys who are more or less like you in looks and demeanor. You yourself start out as a casual hookup, but after a while she expresses some interest in a relationship. What do you do? After all, her past history demonstrates an unbridled sexual desire for guys like you Hm, that's really interesting. I have never thought about the point you raise here. But one of my best friends had a girlfriend and all of her exes and her boyfriend after she brok…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:31 AM
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It's a case study. You can directly look at the stuff since that has been pretty well researched. Yes, and I remember I was fascinated and impressed by the extensive posts from illimitablemen about dark triad. It helped me understand everything better. However that was long ago and just another piece in the puzzle. And I don't mean that derogatorily. It was a great read and I understood it back then. Now it is just a small piece in the big picture and I don't "fetishise" it. The fact that you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:14 AM
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Or are you going to ignore that part of it all? To be honest, I ignore all the parts of dark triad because I don't find it helpful. Nobody can become a dark triad guy. It's impossible even if I wanted to. (And I don't want to). I have the impression that the people who obsess over dark triad are blue pillers not red pillers. It's a good way to paint trp as evil just for describing the phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:04 AM
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Bitterness Check. Belief in male superiority Check in the sense that I believe that women have the same potential as men, but for different reasons, many women waste their potential instead of making use of it. Maladjustedness Don't know what exactly you mean here. Far-right political views Nope. General jackassery Nope. Fetishization of Dark Triad sociopathy Absolutely not. The only thing that is interesting about Dark Triad sociopathy is that it is attractive to many women and what this tells …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 11:50 PM
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So you are basically just saying: "do what you do without the bitterness and you'll be more attractive?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 11:40 PM
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You do have a point and let's say you are completely correct. Then I still can only reply to your OP with: "So?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 11:37 PM
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http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/operatio.htm Down you go ;) I already did when you linked to MKUltra stuff quite a while ago! Last year I believe. I binge-read a lot after that and damn that was one wild ride. It's also worth noting that the documents we have are not only redacted but also a tiny portion of the overall MKUltra operation. Yes, exactly that. As if the documents that exist weren't enough...I mean, when the leftovers are already that bad, I don't want to know what the destroyed st…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:51 PM
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Hey, thank you very much for taking the time to explain it. I have rosemary and lemons at hand so I will try it tomorrow. You know, it's funny because I am a really pragmatic guy and I don't believe in god or an afterlife or anything supernatural. But I had a kind of "supernatural" experience once that was so terrifying that I would have checked myself into a mental asylum for psychosis/hallucination if my girlfriend hadn't been there and experienced it too. So I knew that I wasn't just imaginin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 08:33 PM
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Ok I'm just buying money house blessing The comment in this thread about Bulgarian Roma wedding markets reminded me that some old Roma women beggars once cursed my mother when she couldn't/wouldn't give them money. It wasn't a "fuck you", my mum says it sounded like they actually cursed her. It wasn't on the street, they rang our doorbell. They go from house to house and beg for money. Happens regularly. Would you be concerned about something like that? (Serious question, because I don't really …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:19 PM
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Inclusion sounds good in theory but can make work living hell. If you haven't experienced something like what you describe here (I have), you can't know how terrible it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:14 PM
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"The 18,000 strong Khaleidzi clan is a sub-group of the Roma people who face constant prejudice and exclusion across Europe." Gosh, I wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:11 PM
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Perfect example. Happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 04:36 AM
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Ah, now I see where you are going with this. Yeah, this can be a problem and make people frustrated because they are taken for granted. I call it "girlfriend privilege". Sudden new expectations and less investment on her part upon entering a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 03:20 AM
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There you go!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 02:54 AM
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What bothered me about it was the vindictive way it was written. Okay, stuff like that obviously doesn't bother me as a red pill man, but it's bad red pill advice because posing as a male feminist probably won't help his chances of sleeping with her. Lie to her, I don't care, but don't tell her a lie that might actually decrease your chances. If he really wants do do a haha high five bro, he should explicitly tell her that he is an anti-feminist before sleeping with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 01:24 AM
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That's a red pill fail if there ever was one, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 12:59 AM
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Yes, I find that interesting, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 12:37 AM
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That rabbit hole...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 12:05 AM
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Women are willing to believe that fucking violent criminals have changed for them Right. And even better, she will probably see this as a nice bonus instead of anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 12:05 AM
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Frugal behavior can be off-putting. It shouldn't be, but for some reason, it often is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 12:03 AM
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It's not funny if you explain the joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 11:48 PM
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If she finds him attractive in first place, n-count takes a back seat, true, but that doesn't necessarily mean that she doesn't find his n-count unattractive. This also applies to women. I've seen plenty of men with options dating high n-count men. I agree that not every men cares about n-count. Many don't. N-count isn't the real problem once other factors are considered. And if it is for some people, you can just lie. That is what I recommend. He probably won't ask anyway. I don't understand wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 11:39 PM
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If he's got the free-spirited personality that sluts tend to have, and she's an inhibited, chaste woman? Things become harder. If she rejects him in this scenario, she doesn't reject him because of his n-count, but because his free spirited-personality doesn't go with her lifestyle and plans in general. She might want kids, but he doesn't, she might be career-oriented, but he isn't, she might want to spend their free-time with relaxing, reading or cultural stuff, while he wants go out partying. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 11:16 PM
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Thus, contrary to the idea that male promiscuity is tolerated but female promiscuity is not, both sexes expressed equal reluctance to get involved with someone with an overly extensive sexual history. Who cares what they "express"? Bring a low n-count woman together with a high n-count man she finds attractive and just watch. She won't reject him for his n-count and she won't find his n-count unattractive. To be fair, most guys don't reject women for their n-count neither, but that's because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 11:11 PM
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She is likely not going to be OK with a guy that's fucked half the town, In theory that makes sense. unless he shows some damned strong evidence that he's put that part of his life behind him. Which will be easy for him to do. If she likes him and finds him attractive, his n-count won't make him less attractive. She might be more careful for a while, but it won't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 10:54 PM
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Three "nobody wants an rp guy anyway, hurr durr"-comments already. How do you guys come up with all these clever and original jokes? Can you reach that level of wit by practising stand up comedy or is it all natural talent? Especially this dry kind of humour is really refreshing. Intelligent sarcasm ftw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 10:51 PM
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Wrong. I know it sounds good and logical on paper. "If you want a woman with a low n-count, keep your own n-count low." Sounds good, but is completely wrong. Bad advice. Women feel differently about n-count than men. I'd really like to know if there was one example in history where a non-religious woman/girl turned a man/boy down because he wasn't a virgin. I guarantee that in every example that somebody could come up with, it wasn't his n-count but something else that made him unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 10:43 PM
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It is not reasonable to fuck half the town when you are young and want to marry a virgin. No problem, the virgin doesn't care about his n-count. (If she isn't religious). I'll reword your statement: It is reasonable to expect a low n count if you have a low n count yourself are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 09:53 PM
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Or maybe we should teach men, as they grow up, that sex isn't validation. But sex is validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 09:36 PM
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Correct answer. Thread closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 09:04 PM
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Yes. But leave incels alone. Preach about your own bad luck situation experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 08:20 PM
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The importance of luck is understated. True. Especially when luck = meeting the right woman at the right time. If you lucked out there, it's easy to preach from your high horse to people who didn't have that luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 08:10 PM
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PUA was considered just as misogynistic and offensive as TRP is now. Exactly. Let's not forget this. All this "nobody would have a problem eith TRP if it wasn't misogynistic" just isn't true. And everybody who followed the outrage over pua over a decade ago knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 07:04 PM
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Right in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 06:56 PM
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You see that's exactly the problem with bp advice and with the survivorship bias OP mentions. Your plan would be okay, if people had attractive women in their life they regularly interact with. But let's look at it. For this plan to work, these women you regularly interact with: have to be single have to be attractive to you, be your type they have to find you attractive depending on your views: can't be colleagues because you want to keep work/relationship separated, not at your gym or favorite…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 06:54 PM
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This is the best case scenario of course. I just haven't seen one in real-life (yet) that's why I mentioned the ones I have seen. I find it encouraging that it's possible even for normal guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 06:27 PM
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Thank you, I appreciate it. : ) I see you deleted your other comment about your wife, where you described her lovingly, before I could reply to it. But it's exactly what I meant! "Wife" can carry so much positive feelings. My best friend got married last year. A few months later we had a conversation with a few strangers at an event and during small talk he mentioned his wife. And later he said to me: "Man...I wouldn't have believed it, but it really feels great to say "my wife". I can relate 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 06:26 PM
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cultivate what I refer to as "flirty friends," where he is a friendly gentleman towards a woman who he interacts with regularly If you were suddenly single, how many attractive (to you) single women you interact with regularly would be in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 02:26 AM
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"I like long walks on the beach. And Nirvana."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 01:51 AM
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I think you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 01:08 AM
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Just stick to PPD, it's more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 12:43 AM
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Are there men in the redpill for the purpose of getting into a LTR, Yes, many. everything I've seen rp tbp say
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 12:29 AM
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it's interwoven and all parts must play their role to work out. I know. Tbh, I am still surprised now and then when I see how perfectly everything fits together to become bigger than the sum of its parts. Even stuff you'd think are incidental at first. That's also why there's no comparable alternative to trp. A simple list with dating advice will never be the same as the construct that is trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 12:25 AM
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It seems to be working even better than the locker room talk. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 12:13 AM
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I think a better metaphor would be born rich/born poor. Being born poor, being raised lower-class and with lots of bad experiences and then struggling to make it into the upper-class. Even if you make it, you still carry issues from your childhood with you and never feel right at home. And of course, the lifestyle of the rich and famous is different than you had pictured it. Something like this probably works better than the bike analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 12:11 AM
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Right? He is such a hypocrite. He always mentions his "wife". Had to google it and it just means "the woman he is in some kind of contractual relationship with". Sometimes he says "to divorce" instead of "to break up", which is essentially the same thing. Dafuq?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 12:03 AM
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Burned
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 11:53 PM
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I never did plate spinning over extended periods of time and only during my asshole phase 10 years ago. And some plate spinning light last year but that was only for science. It worked really well, but it's just so counter to how I want to date that I never really got into it. For the rest, I think it depends on the person. I like being alone, but maybe you are an extrovert. I am a really weird mix of extro and intro. I enjoy being alone, too, and I don't even realise that I am missing something…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 11:33 PM
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Yes, I was. The point I am trying to make is that I often thought that I was completely fine with being alone, but it always turned out that no, I wasn't. I didn't realise how much I had missed it until I was in a relationship again. All the hobbies, friends and ambition in the world can't change that. I just don't believe that "content with being alone" builds an abundance or IDGAF mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 11:16 PM
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Nope, I quit dating because of health problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 10:51 PM
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If you personally value a traditional relationship structure, then it would seem that choosing to date women who are okay with a non traditional dating scenario would go against your goal of finding a compatible partner. Sounds logical, but isn't true in my experience. Women don't judge men for sleeping around and see it as a win if they can get him to commit. This is the same thing as I said. Yes, I know, but I am saying that it is not possible to reach this state of mind by "learning how to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 10:37 PM
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If the whole point is to not get too emotionally invested No, the whole point is to find the most compatible partner out of multiple options. And on top of that you automatically don't choose that partner just because you are needy at that moment. You are not needy, sexually or emotionally, because you already have it all covered. That's what makes you choose your partner for their compatibility and relationship/marriage qualities. by learning how to be content with being alone. Not possible in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 10:23 PM
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Yeah, teasing is a social skill. [...] Done right, it can be fun. True. It's not that I can't or don't do it, it's just one part of dating that I don't enjoy as much as others seem to enjoy. It has grown on me over the years, but I still prefer to laugh about other things than mutual teasing. On the other hand it comes naturally to me when I am around kids. You are talking supermodel territory. Megan Fox type of looks & body. Yes, this is exactly what they were talking about. Only on celebrities…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 10:12 PM
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The negative connotation comes from referring to women as objects. Yup. That's all the negative connotation I need.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 09:09 PM
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Maybe just take care of the issues instead of resorting to deception? Or maybe it's not issues, but a completely different personality type with different preferences and opinions? And where's the deception in it? Using language in a way that describes what you are doing in a way that shows how you feel about it is the most honest thing you can do. If a trp guy said "romantically courting multiple princesses at the same time" instead of "spinning plates"...now that would be deception. Both to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 09:03 PM
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Hey, this is actually a good list of things to keep in mind when teasing doesn't come naturally to you. I don't like teasing, but seeing it like this makes it seem more appealing to me. ("Negging" as defined back the by pua is still something completely different, but it doesn't matter, because like Greasy said, it's only supposed to be used on women who are 9/10 and above and it has almost no relevance in pua/trp anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 09:00 PM
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Yet I was still able to speak about these women to my friends and family without dehumanizing them or outright misogyny. By using normal words. This is your benchmark? "Do what the fuck you want, do exactly the same I did...but don't talk about it like you do." O.o
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:40 PM
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Cooking, cleaning, and caring for their own husbands and children is a concept which is repulsive to them. Acts of service to others are in their twisted minds traps to be avoided, and many go so far as to order their entire lives around avoiding showing love to others, especially their families. These women are so gripped by miserliness they have made it a priority not to show love to their own children. Mom? What are you doing here at PPD?!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:33 PM
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Because as a former bp guy, I prefer the traditional courtship route where you zoom in on one girl instead of keeping your options open. I hate that "casually dating multiple women" is actually the better approach, so I want to have a term for it that captures how I feel about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:15 PM
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Yeah, fuck my life, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:04 PM
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Season 1, Murder House is great. Each season is disconnected so you can pick a theme you like and start there. I [...] Great, I am looking forward to watching it now. You ever finish Penny Dreadful? That's my favorite horror series of the last decade. I loved the first season, but for some reason I can't remember, I lost interest during the second season.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:44 PM
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Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:19 PM
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Imagine talking about history without all the lingo. Like "monarchy" for example. Or talking about music without mentioning genres.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:18 PM
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On a rational level, I agree. On an emotional level, inviting someone to dinner and paying as part of courtship is nice. This only works if both of them like this stuff, of course. If she is not into it, she should definitely pay for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:16 PM
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Sounds like fun to me... Screw all that "you have to grow up"-noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:13 PM
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Now I am sure I mixed you up with somebody. He made a whole thread about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:11 PM
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I agree, but not everybody who struggles with social interactions is on the spectrum. I think it would be arrogant if non-autistic men thought they could come up with a strategy for autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:10 PM
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I'd like to know why. Please tell
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:04 PM
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I think sometimes the emotions of these guys can be so collectively intense that to them it feels like a loud earth shattering day of reckoning is around the corner Man, that describes it perfectly. Tbh, that was exactly how it frlt to me, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 06:50 PM
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Yes. And I remember that it wasn't even a big thing in pua over a decade ago. Didn't come up much in field reports and discussions. The only ones who were obsessed with negging were anti-puas who used it to condemn pua. "Omg, manipulating a woman by attacking her self-confidence."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 06:40 PM
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Oh, so you did break up? IIRC you were still undecided whether or not to pull the plunge.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 06:33 PM
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are we guilty of survivorship bias? This! Survivorship bias explains so much of your (general you) views that seem completely alien to me. The difference alone between people who met their SOs through friends (by accident) and people who somehow had to look for a partner is much bigger than you can imagine. Good post. You are asking the right questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 06:30 PM
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we recommend casual dating"? It's because "casual dating" is a euphemism. It has a positive connotation. I prefer to use a term that describes it more accurately and with a negative connotation. Plate spinning is the perfect term.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 06:27 PM
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It's funny It's memorable It's visual Red pill is not aimed at autistic men. If rp jargon makes them sound even more autistic, it's not our problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 06:06 PM
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For science!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 04:42 PM
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I have heard it, too, though not that often. Surprisingly it was always in the context of serious relationships and guys trp would describe as beta, not some adventure with an Uber-Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 03:35 AM
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Isn't it strange even on a linguistic level? Know how to "handle a dominant woman." If somebody really is dominant, do they want to be and need to be "handled"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 10:52 PM
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Damn do we have a good memory for internet convos from years ago I was seriously impressed that you remembered it. you're one of my fav internet buddies Love you too, buddy. Make sure to never leave PPD, please, it would break my heart. (Damn, I just wanted to link a picture to my Millencolin CD as greetz to you, but it's in my brother's car. It has /u/cxj written on it because I always mark my CDs with the names of the ones who recommended them to me. Helps my memory). checks to make sure U/hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 10:30 PM
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Oh yeah, I can clearly remember it. You were the second guy after Sands who told me that it wouldn't. I also told you that I wanted to build an "army of betas" at that time and instead of encouraging me, you pointed out that it wouldn't work because rp is highly individual. Not only were you disencouraging me...you were right on top of it. I hate it when that happens. JERK! ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 09:51 PM
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I think it is kind of them to still believe the best in people (or women in this case) You are spot on. To be honest, sometimes I hope they will never change because they all have a good heart and give off so much positive energy. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 09:45 PM
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Not gonna lie, this is some beautiful poetry right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 09:41 PM
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No one knows what a decent human being is stop moralizing TRP Exactly. Just like nobody really knows what an "insecure woman" is. And nobody can tell me why you shouldn't date an insecure woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 09:32 PM
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It is less about women are wonderful but more about those guys not get hurt as badly compared to guys in trp. I agree when we are talking about this kind of guys. You are right there. However I was thinking of guys who were hurt badly and only have bad experiences with women. You'd think they'd happily jump on the trp train, but they don't. And I think that the reason for these guys is that they want to cling to their old beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:57 PM
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Yes, you can see some of it, but I predicted a much bigger impact about 2 years ago. I think I wanted to bet with Sandman on it. I am glad he didn't take the bet, because while you can see some of it leaking into the mainstream, it's not to the extent that I had in mind. Btw, American Horror Story...worth watching?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 06:19 PM
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Oh no, she's one of the worst. You didn't see her interview with crying nazi? Lol, no. Need to watch! Just youtubed and found one with some Christopher Cantwell who was a protester in Charlottesville. Is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 05:35 PM
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Who cares? Especially when considering that my crystal ball has failed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 05:29 PM
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Yes, I know, good for you. You are not trp's target group. Doesn't change the fact that there are many guys who are under the women are wonderful delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:30 PM
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And rightfully so. What I am trying to say is that even guys who you'd expect to think "women are awful" because of their own shitty real-life experience reject trp because they want to cling to their "women are wonderful"-beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:19 PM
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If trp only said "women are awful" and nothing else, I wouldn't have expected it to enter the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:12 PM
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Nah, I think it's because guys want to hold on to their "women are wonderful"-beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:01 PM
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Ah, I see. That makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 03:29 PM
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The Madonna-Whore complex is thriving every time a guy tells you that you seem like a “Nice girl” and then is shocked to hear about your sexual history. Why is it a "complex" and what is wrong with it? He thought that she wasn't a slut, then she tells him that she is a slut. Of course he is surprised. I don't see a phenomenon or anything behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 03:11 PM
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Try Karen Straughan.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 03:00 PM
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My crystal ball has already failed me. I was expecting TRP to hit the mainstream and normal peoples' real-life years ago. Which it didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 11:45 AM
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It's comical to watch lower value women be MORE demanding, it's like straight out of Jerry Springer. Lol, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 09:17 PM
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I've dated fatties and uggos, and they're awalt too. TRP isn't apex fallacy, as a lot of men who are RP have low enough standards that they've at least dabbled in both sides of the bell curve. I agree. From anecdotal experience, women in the 6-7 range are the least awalty. Above that awaltness increases. But you'll find the real awalts, the caricatures, in the 5.5 and below range.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:31 PM
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If you ask me, and I think this sub and many men would agree, is women should have an idea of basic empathy for men in general. Yes, please. (Won't happen, but would be nice)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:25 PM
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There are guys who know how to play an instrument because they're talented, and then there are people who need every single lesson they can get in order to achieve a similar quality. Can confirm. The funny thing is that you could take this analogy even further. For example the "we've been lied to"-messages. Music schools (Jugendmusikschulen) suck. They train children to be musicians that play for a sophisticated musically educated audience...that doesn't exist in every-day life. Without going in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:41 PM
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I agree that the bitterness can be a problem and that naturals are the better choice most of them time. But there are two points that guys who were missing out when they were young often (not always) bring to the table: They really appreciate the relationship. Having been lonely for a long time, they don't miss the single market and the imaginary adventures that might be waiting out there. They know how much the relationship adds to their life and this has a positive effect on the relationship. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:30 PM
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I am fine, ty. : ) Sleeping disorder in check and no chronic pain atm. Feels like cheat mode, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:21 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 05:08 PM
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Gave the claws to a kid after the race, Aw. <3 Sounds great. Logan was a good choice. Thanks for reporting back how it went.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 04:42 PM
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How'd it go?!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 04:05 PM
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Thanks. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 03:59 PM
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I made a comment to my wife back when we were friends that I liked women with long hair for example. She had short hair. She started to grow her hair long. We even have a name for that: "compliance test". Now you may wonder why we need a name for that and why many guys have never seen something like this happen. Answer: Many guys are afraid to voice their expectations/preferences and say what they like or don't like. In your example, a clueless beta guy would have never said to a girl with short…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 03:13 PM
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people think it's [...] "all about compassion" Oh damn, that's going to be a hell of an awakening, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 02:33 AM
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Groovy knows what's up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 11:02 PM
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No worries, bro. I lost it later than you and it did have an effect on me, so I know it's not only a theoretical problem. But in the end the only thing that really matters is whether you like being in a relationship or not and whether you like sleeping around or not. Just do what is more fun to you at the moment. Sleeping around if you feel like it or entering a relationship with a woman you are really attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 10:43 PM
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Woa, I don't think so, because I wouldn't feel the need to defend high n-count men. (Not saying that high n-count men are bad...I am just not interested much in the topic "men's n-count"). Maybe in a specific context, I would. But unfortunately I can't remember having a conversation about it with you, sorry. : (
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 10:34 PM
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You were 18 years old. That's young enough, you should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 10:27 PM
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Why is having this sense of worth valuable unless you wanted to fuck lots of women? It just is. Even if you have a girlfriend and you are happy with her, and you have no intentions of sleeping with other women, you want to be that guy every woman finds attractive. It might sound childish but in my opinion every guy, even a mature guy, has that 15yo kid in him who wants to be the hero of the locker room. It's not necessarily a bad thing (if you don't act on it of course) because it's a good motiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 10:22 PM
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I agree with you. Three backups sounds wayyy too much. I don't believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 09:05 PM
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Aw...that's the relationship stuff I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 08:50 PM
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XD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:11 PM
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Oh yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:07 PM
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Where are you from? I am asking because - to my knowledge - this "non-exclusivity until said otherwise"-thing is pretty alien to me, This is actually changing. "The talk" has become a real thing because exclusivity isn't assumed by default anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:06 PM
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I don't actually have a problem with guys getting pointers to get laid online without dehumanizing the potential fuckees. I believe you. The interesting thing is that I remember when I found the pickup community in about 2001, there wasn't much misogyny. AWALT wasn't a thing and there was no slut-shaming. And it still was attacked and hated by the media and blogs and other internet communities. People hated pua just because men wanted to have lots of casual sex and talked about what women in gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 05:58 PM
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Uhh, that seems obvious. Which is why I didn't know how to answer "so the rest of my comment was accurate then"? I am not trying to pull a gotcha here, I just don't know what to say to this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 05:17 PM
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If I understood correctly you were saying "it's okay when men sleep around when it just happens" and "it's not okay when they a) have to find out how to get casual sex by looking for resources online and b) when they think badly of women and talk badly about women"? Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 05:01 PM
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We don't use hamster for "emotions". Hamstering the way trp uses it means "talking yourself into believing something you want to believe".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 04:02 PM
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I survived 3 attempts of my body to kill me. Holy... And I am the fittest now I have ever been in my life. So yeah I would say I am better Congrats, good to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 03:57 PM
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Man I wasted that metaphor for nothing :( Nope, I found it interesting. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 03:49 PM
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I broke up because when I was very ill in hospital earlier this year Oh. Are you well again now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 03:37 PM
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At least you tried to help him. Respect!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 02:23 PM
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Thanks, but I am not sad or anything, I can laugh about how clueless and stupid I was when I was young. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 02:16 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 01:37 AM
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Oh dear...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 11:24 PM
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Should have said fellow blue pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 11:15 PM
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No more mr nice guy chapter 1 and 2 covers it pretty well, it wasn't a bestseller for no reason, millions of people could relate. This book hit home so fucking hard that I had to stop reading after a few chapters. Especially the childhood stuff was too much for me. I'll pick it up again some time, but I am not looking forward to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 11:13 PM
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What do you want to hear other than "good for you?" Maybe "Omg I was stupid"? Okay, here you have it: Omg, I was stupid! And I mean it. Happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 08:18 PM
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I still think that what I picture when I think of a natural blue pill guy is different from what you picture when you just picture a guy without a backbone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 08:15 PM
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Take responsibility for your own actions don't blame Disney. I don't blame anybody anymore. But anti-reds keep asking us how guys can be so clueless and why they need to be red-pilled. Then we try to explain how it was for us. Disney movies are certainly not the whole story. And I will never be able to figure out every little detail that made me grow up as an emasculated clueless nice guy with romantic delusions who needed to find pua in order to make sense of everything dating related. It's imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 07:59 PM
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So how do I continue getting dates? Because you are not a clueless beta guy with romantic delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 07:33 PM
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Yeah, fuck that lookism shit. I hate it so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 07:26 PM
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Most of it is bashing TRP for whatever reason, And that's fine. They don't claim to be anything else. They are a parody sub that makes fun of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 07:22 PM
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Or maybe... JUST MAYBE... some of us don't need your bullshit "sexual strategy" at all? Maybe...just maybe...that's exactly what I was saying in my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:58 PM
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So when you talk about blue pillers you actually mean guys who have some serious issues like an inability to enforce healthy boundaries? For example, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:57 PM
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Anyway BP is a RP concept. RP created it then blue pillers came and took the name ironically, that does not mean that RPs talk about that sub when they talk about their concept. Yup. Someone phone the Wachowskis already and tell them that the movie is completely wrong about the red pill subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:33 PM
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I don't care what TBP-blue pillers are. They are just a group of anti-red-pill people who chose to call themselves blue pill because it means that they are rejecting the red pill. Which is fine. In this case, blue pill just means anti-red. But the only blue pill that matters to me and the TRP subreddit are clueless beta guys with romantic delusions who need to be red-pilled. These are the guys TRP has invented the term "blue pill" for. Way before the anti-red TBP subreddit even existed. Fellow P…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:28 PM
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Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:13 PM
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Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:09 PM
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Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:08 PM
1

Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:06 PM
1

Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:05 PM
1

Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:05 PM
1

Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:03 PM
1

Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:02 PM
1

Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:02 PM
1

Wow, that's really interesting and a nice tune. And I thought "Love Gun" had all the answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:01 PM
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You're one of the few people who will GET INTO IT with me, Guitars, even tho... yeah. Even though what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:16 AM
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I just realized, thinking about this, that we've had this convo before. Yup, I remember that convo. In my opinion it's a different topic though. Here I am claiming that "he wants me as much as I want him" is not a necessary ingredient for a total dream guy. I have seen too many women chase guys who weren't that interested in them for years to believe it. Okay back to the old convo, because interesting: It's the same old 'either you enjoy the game or you don't' thing. And in that convo I talked a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 01:30 AM
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Girl game.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 11:20 PM
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Isn't the question: "How do I get him to commit" an age old question? I've only ever seen this in the context of how to get a BF to propose to marriage. Oh don't get me started on this, lol. It's the same problem, yes. Again, I believe you, it just boggles my mind, because I see it all the time and since I was a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 11:15 PM
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wallowing in self pity like incels I don't see the wallowing in self-pity as a problem. I don't judge anybody who goes through hardship on how they decide to deal with it. Incelness is brutal and self-pity is justified. But the fact that many incels not only try to "educate" normies, but do so aggressively or insulting and how they demand attention is off-putting. Okay, Mr. Incel you are right and you have won the discussion, yay!...against somebody who had no interest in debating said issue in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 10:22 PM
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This is PPD again. I really believe every one of you who says "if he is not looking for a relationship, why would I try to convince him otherwise? That doesn't make sense." This is the reasonable approach women who are looking for a relationship should take in my opinion. But in real-life I see women trying to change the minds of guys who don't want to have a relationship all the time. Isn't the question: "How do I get him to commit" an age old question? Again, I believe fellow PPD women when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:49 PM
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Seconded. Perfect advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:28 PM
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Purge week over feels like coming home after a vacation. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:27 PM
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Pm. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:25 PM
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That question still misses the point, part of the dream that is the DREAM GUY is that that he wants to be with me as much as I want to be with him. It's part of the reactive sexuality. Hehe and it's also the part we red pillers don't want to believe. We'll never believe you guys in this regard. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:20 PM
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This is in the context of YOUR DREAM GUY who IS CURRENTLY sleepING around and IS not ACTIVELY PURSUING a relationship, but you ARE. Good point. Women and men often follow their own specific rules and have the same expections whenever it's about reasonably attractive men and women. But when the dream guy or girl shows up, the rules and expections often go out of the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:11 PM
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That's a good summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:58 PM
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As /u/guitarsaregettingold stated, a lot of guys think "I haven't met the right one yet, I guess". The key words there are "I Guess". I love it when people understand that I carefully phrase stuff like this and that the little things I put in actually matter. Thanks for seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:37 PM
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I thought that this list was a 10/10 perfect list. But the last bullet point pushes it over the edge and now the list goes to eleven.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:18 PM
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Great. : ) I wonder how many more "Omg, Guitars..I didn't believe you...but you were right!" I have to hear until they actually start understanding that I wasn't only right in the past, but that I am also right right now and that they should listen to my advice. I swear I have always been patient in the past, but I have grown so tired of all that beta bullshit and them repeating the same mistakes over and over again that I have actually started to just tell beta friends "fine, throw your life aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:14 PM
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I was thinking of virtually all red pill stuff. AWALT, women are children and so on. But the examples you gave are perfect examples, too. Many guys won't even accept small stuff like this. "Don't give her compliments all the time", "use less emoji, you come across as feminine", "don't spend too much money on her", "text less", "don't wait too long to make the first move". They all think that only "shallow women" don't find this attractive. A good woman wouldn't mind too many compliments, too man…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 07:48 PM
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Okay, so you are saying that basically all men feel this way, not just redpillers? That's even worse lol. As a red piller I can guarantee you that the vast majority of men doesn't feel this way. Most of the guys I know in real-life just think "well, I haven't met the right one, yet, I guess". And most of them, even the ones who have absolutely no success with women don't want to accept red pill stuff when I tell them about it. No matter how much it would benefit them, they want to have none of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 07:06 PM
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This year I know 2 women that got hair extensions because I said I like long hair. Compliance tests for the win.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 06:21 PM
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I think that men judge their attractiveness based on the hottest women they can sleep with, True. but women judge their attractiveness on the hottest man they can keep in a relationship. Yes, that would make sense and that's how I think women should judge their attractiveness and I am sure that many intelligent women actually do it like this. But from anecdotal experience, most don't. If a woman gets pumped and dumped, she doesn't walk away from the encounter feeling good about herself, despite …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 06:01 PM
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Of course I don't know what those women are thinking, but if I wanted to date someone safe, I'd find someone unattractive enough that I could be relatively certain they wouldn't leave me for a hotter woman. He would have to be significantly less attractive than myself. That's exactly what most of them do after I reject them. (Keep in mind, on the age 30+ dating market). It's the "wtf?!?! not even someone like Guitars wants me, not even Guitars is a safe bet?! Am I that ugly?!"-effect. They panic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 05:38 PM
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I swear we should have a built-in SMV/RMV-meter who gave all the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 05:23 PM
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This sounds so much like my then best female friend (who was much younger than me), it's uncanny. Her role in her social circle(s) was exactly like you describe. Big sister, nurturing and cheerleader at the same time. Also a real contrast to them in life-style and personality. In our friendship she was the little sister for a change and I think that was part of the reason we became so close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 05:14 PM
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Foreign guys of any nationality seem to like me more than American guys. Do you have any ideas why that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 05:01 PM
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Oh, so you just don't think you are as attractive as the women you date? Hehe, the question is what they think. In an ideal world where attractiveness was rated completely objectively, I think that the women I dated were looksmatched or slightly below my looks. Part of this is because I like the mousy/cute type more than conventionally beautiful kind of woman. My female friends always said that I should stop dating down and aim higher. (Ofc that's what female friends would say, I know, I know). …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 04:50 PM
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Oh no...TheWalkingMenu was a great fellow PPDler. I'll miss her. : (
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 04:20 PM
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No, they all see me as a safe bet. Even the ones who for whatever reason initialy think that I am a player see me as a safe bet. The "safe bet, reasonable/mature choice for a serious relationship where she is finally a priority in his life"-part of me is what women find "attractive" about me. Look, I could talk myself into thinking that it must be my baby blue eyes, my kind of humour, sportive body or whatever, but I want to be realistic instead of deluding myself. It's my height (6ft) and the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 04:18 PM
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But they also see you as a player? Only some of them. Maybe it's because I am outgoing, fake self-confidence convincingly and meet lots of people. So they assume I have options and "what man wouldn't sleep around if he had options". Just guessing. I don't think too much about it because most women don't think that I am a player. This doesn't seem to make sense. I know right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 03:58 PM
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Intuition and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 03:20 PM
1

Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 03:16 PM
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This mostly applies to people who make romantic advances, but it's also interesting to consider what kind of people approach you to be your friend as well. These are two completely different categories that don't have anything to do with each other in my case. I make friends easily. People in real-life seem to want to be friends with me. Men and women age 18-60. All kinds of people from Turkish kickboxers to self made millionaires who program AIs to single mothers, white collar, blue collar peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 03:07 PM
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It's interesting, it came up in another thread. Can confirm. Shaved works better with older women. Not shaved works better with younger women. (In general)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 02:47 PM
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Haha.:D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 02:30 PM
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(y)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 02:22 PM
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I don't understand most of your post, but I really like this just look someone slowly from head to toe and huff out a little air as you roll your eyes. This WILL read as EXTREMELY FEMININE to ANYONE, because it's a behavior women are so deeply socialized to do in US culture. And this: He wants to be happy, while she's also happy. He's trying to balance both of them, like a type of negotiation. Girls who have been in a drawn out argument with a guy wanting the kind of closure where I'm okay and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 02:10 PM
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Wtf?! That wasn't a joke shitpost? Holy shit.Ok. On ignore they go...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 01:56 AM
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but nothing can protect a guy against his innate need to be his children's hero. That is one of the places that women tend to attack. Seen it in real-life. It's brutal. The society doesn't give a damn about men, but we need to look after ourselves. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 12:29 AM
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Well, I personally find it really hilarious. Not in a pathetic way. But why did you summon me by writing my username? Did you want my opinion on it or something else? Don't get me wrong, I like to be summoned this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 09:34 PM
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Okay. I don't know any men who shave their pits. Really? I shave my pits. It's not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 09:06 PM
1

Be well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 08:44 PM
1

? Don't understand, please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 08:27 PM
2

Yeah, but I wouldn't break social conventions for the sake of breaking social conventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 08:12 PM
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I'll do it if she's legitimately trying to break societal convention I think that would put me off more than if she was just too lazy to shave. I don't see the point in breaking societal conventions in a relationship you share with only 1 person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 08:05 PM
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I was thinking with like a sheet or blanket and trying to figure out how that would work... That was literally my first thought, too. I came up with the Japanese school girl idea because I think it would be funny: "No problem honey. I don't care what society says is masculine or feminine. You don't need to shave your legs to be feminine. This is all a social construct anyway. Feminism for the win. Fuck the patriarchy... Now put on the most submissive and sexually objectifying feminine costume ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 08:03 PM
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Japanese schoolgirl cosplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 07:44 PM
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What is your opinion on it? Do you see it as a simple "some just don't find it attractive" or do you see it as a symptom of gender dynamics/stereotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 07:32 PM
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I wouldn't. But I wouldn't hate on her or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 07:06 PM
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Bi- annually at most if we are going to do a full week. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:45 PM
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I don't know what to say. This is heart-breaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:18 PM
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Just think of this a stepping stone for now. Please share your gut reactions with me Initial reaction: "Stepping stone, maybe. Hopefully not only a drop in the bucket." Another reaction: "See, non-incels. The problem is not -not getting your dick wet-. It's basic physical intimacy that humans need."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:14 PM
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They are what I like to call "ideologically inbred". Hehe, nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:06 PM
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Oh I have no doubt that he can find a girl some day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:55 PM
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Okay, that is really funny, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:54 PM
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Once he gets a gf, we can see that expression changing. I think he's gone. : (
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:48 PM
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I know. I still find it important to say that he looks like a dead empty shell. Not in pain or sad, but really dead and empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:33 PM
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Just the impression I get by looking at the picture: he looks as if he is boring and not fun to be around. Yeah, I know you shouldn't judge people by a selfie picture. But I do because photos do capture some of your personality. This pic is like looking into a soulless void.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:17 PM
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I'm never been exactly a memorable member, Defs memorable. but you are damned smart and intuitive! Nice to hear too from someone I've always liked and respected. Thank you. : ) I bet you're pretty good at reading people IRL too? Without wanting to sound arrogant, yes, I think I can read people well and empathise on such a level that some people are actually scared of me in real-life . Tbh, I think this plays a big role in all of my red pill beliefs and convictions. You know that red pill says "d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:38 PM
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: )
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:26 PM
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Well, that is Germany 101 for you: Rule 1: " Take something fun and make it not fun." Use regulations to do so. Call something "dangerous" and ban it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 03:52 PM
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fakrimpteh Lol, great, I love it. Yiddish is so funny when you are native in the language the words are derived from. Verkrampfte --> fakrimpteh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 01:56 PM
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Have you ever thought about showing good-will by redeeming yourself right here in this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 02:09 AM
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No way! I can't believe it, I immediately thought "Tardis" when I saw the pic even though I had no idea what you look like and only afterwards confirmed it by looking at what you wrote. I was 95% sure that I got it right. Beautiful picture and welcome back even if it's only for a short drive-by-greeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 02:05 AM
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Lol, yeah I have heard that. Does that still work in your 30s though? Is there a hook-up scene for people over 30? (Assuming you are looking for women who are say over 28 years old).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 01:15 AM
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And since it's still purge week, let me just use this particular moment to say that you're the Dunning-Kruger effect personified and a clueless idiot who doesn't even know half as much as he thinks he does. This guy, I swear... The problem with him is that he doesn't take the D-K effect to a point were it's really funny or where talking about the topic could be challenging/rewarding for his opponents because of the ensuing argument. He somehow just always finds the exact sweet spot where it's an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 12:55 AM
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Maybe it's the language barrier and I am wrong, but would an alpha Chad like him who calls everybody phaggets, cucks and sloots really say that he finds the false narrative "super interesting"? Wouldn't he see this as girly? I somehow can't picture an alpha Chad caricature saying "I find it super interesting".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 12:41 AM
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It's not even generic trolling. You're actually trying to make people feel bad. Ironically it's not working I noticed that it's not working, too, and this makes it hilarious and uplifting at the same time. Nobody gives a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 12:37 AM
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Almost everyone else is still just a computer generated username to me. Still worked somehow. Even if people can't tell who is who, the pictures made PPD look more human/normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 12:16 AM
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We’re all better looking than we thought we were ! Fucking Hell. Did NOT see that one coming. Thought most of you would look like a 15lb of shit in a 10lb bag. Turns out, we’re normies! The best thing about the picture thread is that the humanising seems to have worked...aside from the Chad-sucking shitposters who insult everybody anyway, the thread seems to have lifted the spirits and people are less standoffish now. I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:54 PM
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This sounds hot...in a really weird way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:45 PM
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I knew it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:40 PM
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Nobody I know would be surprised or shocked because there's not much difference between my online and offline persona. But I am always bringing up anecdotes...if somebody found out that I mentioned them in an anecdote they would probably be annoyed or angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:27 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:08 PM
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I never understood that atheism became a thing. It isn't a thing here in Germany. Most people aren't religious. That's probably why nobody feels the need to make a movement or subreddit out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:54 PM
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tu n'auras pas une réponse objective ! Hehe, c'est la mème en tous lieux. Personne n'est objective s'il aime sa cité. Personnellement, j'aime bien Paris à petites doses, pour visiter, mais je ne voudrais pas y habiter. Oh, "à petites doses", c'est tous les grand cités pour moi. Je préfère des villes petites. Quand j'habitais aux États-Unis, un américain nous a demandé, « Paris, c'est loin de la France ? » Uh, lol, "Paris? C'est le pays à côté de Versailles. Une promenade en bateau à travers le D…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:52 PM
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Si un jour tu veux pratiquer le français, viens sur IRC. C'est avec plaisir que je te parlerai ! Oh, merci pour l'invitation! Je doit pratiquer un peu...entendre musique et voir des films français. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome Je connais le syndrome paris. J'ai lu le wikipedia l'entrée dernièrement, voilà pourquoi ma question. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:39 PM
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You want the values without the religion, yeah? Yes, exactly. That'd be the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:00 PM
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It's a pity, a religious girl would probably be the perfect match for me. But I am anti-religion and I'd have a real problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:51 PM
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I have no idea what their problem is, but fwiw, you are one of my favorite PPDlers to disagree with about stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:49 PM
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Guess why Guitars an I are constantly arguing against that logic. Yeah, and it seems to be in vain. I am seriously considering changing my tune to "prostitutes make you use a condom --> isn't fun, doesn't count" just because I am tired of explaining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:45 PM
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I don't think he's a troll, I think he is being serious. Which makes him even more pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:15 PM
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Are you tardis_groaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:07 PM
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You remind me of young Rory Gallagher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:01 PM
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Your math is off but I don't want to get in trouble with your husband. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:52 PM
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Simple: Grumpy and "I am a man, I am not cute" on the outside. Happy and "she thinks I am cute" on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:32 PM
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I don't realize I tag it as NSFW 😶 Omg, then it must have been artificial intelligence who scanned the eye, decided "too hot" and tagged it as NSFW.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:26 PM
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It wasn't so difficult. : ) First, I know that you mentioned you are Asian. Second, I wondered who would only show an eye instead of face and body. And I thought that's what you would do because of 1- modesty and 2- slight shyness and 3- traditional culture. Third, I chuckled because you tagged it as NSFW which is funny when posting a picture of only an eye. The kind of humour I thought you would use. Fourth, the eye looks 1-young and 2-nice/pretty. --> Must be Quills. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:10 PM
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Post a pic of yourself. I want to be like you. Need motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 03:27 PM
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For me it is. It was fun, but I don't want to shitpost anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:59 PM
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J’apprécie que tu participes :D Avec plaisir, je ne connaît personne qui parle francais en real-life. : ( J'habite sur Paris, je passe devant Notre Dame régulièrement. Cependant ça doit faire 15-20 ans que je ne suis pas rentré à l'intérieur. Oh, tu habites á Paris?! C'est intéressant. Est Paris comme nos étrangers imaginent? Comme un rêve?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:59 PM
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Yes, I am. Usually I am GuitarsAreGettingOld. For the Lulz was my purge week account.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:48 PM
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my the dick is biggerthanyours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:45 PM
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Omg,yes, how did you find out? Is it because I am Aryan? XD
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:44 PM
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Lol! "Je veux raconter mes amis que je suis gay." "Bien, mais en francais s'il te plaît."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:34 PM
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Le flatteur vit aux dépense de celui qui l'écoute. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:30 PM
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Tu peux t'amuses de moi! J'ai oublié tous, vocabulaire et grammaire. Ma question: Tu as visité la Cathédrale Notre Dame?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:24 PM
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Pinkgoldrose Fontaine? Merde...le poème sonne bien mais je ne comprends rien parce que le grammaire est très trop compliqué. : ( Ta question: Maître renard est red pill. Le corbeau est blue pill, ha!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:16 PM
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Quills, is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:22 AM
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Agree, paging /u/cxj
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 10:19 AM
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Probably my mother. Yeah, I think it was my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 11:46 PM
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Oh man, sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 11:41 PM
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I see. Well my original comment you replied to was about women who are into anime, that's why I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 11:38 PM
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This doesn't work because nobody thinks that there are patriarchy meetings. Only feminists think that non-feminists picture patriarchy as "secret meetings of men with pointy hats". They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 11:35 PM
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Holy shit, didn't see that coming. Well played. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 11:18 PM
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Dude...not cool. They could feel intimidated and it could be a very bad experience for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 11:08 PM
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character break "Johnson" together with "try and have relations" and "importaqt" in the title was too much. Couldn't not upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 11:00 PM
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You're not wrong. Germany emasculates its boys. And the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:56 PM
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Cry together --> Builds rapport. Escalate crying till erection happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:55 PM
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Yeah, but most people classify hentai separately from anime. Something tells me that this guy needs to be linked to shonen-ai or yaoi. I think he'd get a stroke or follow up with a thread "Western culture is dying - we need to save our children".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:46 PM
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Rock it!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:43 PM
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and try to make eye contact with as many women as possible. Only if she looks first. Otherwise: beta supplicating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:37 PM
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I know. I'd like to know why you think that "Germany" is nuff said in this discussion about anime/childish stuff. Is Germany known for its uneducated child-like people in the world? I am really interested in your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:34 PM
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'Nuff said. Not really. Do tell, please. Want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:28 PM
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coffee date. But I am always hungry. Can't go out and not eat. What do I do? Plz help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:25 PM
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Fuck my life!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:21 PM
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Neither nor. It's just...nothing. It's like looking at a blank page. Nothing in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:17 PM
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I don't know where you live, Germany but girls who enjoy this kind of immature ''art'' are invariably in the ''can't skate through life with my looks'' category. Maybe you are just too old to have insight here? The stuff you listed as examples...embarrassing. It's the equivalent of telling a dad joke without realising it. cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:55 PM
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Girls who like anime and manga are better in bed. Fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:47 PM
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Oh and fun fact: here in Germany, in the the older episodes, Vegeta is dubbed by the same voice actor who does Spongebob Squarepants....which makes the earlier episodes pretty much unwatchable, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:42 PM
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Yes, I have. Most women agreed with most of the red pill stuff I brought up. Women love talking about men-women-stuff and they especially like it when they are talking with somebody who doesn't pedestalise women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:28 PM
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My first gf was into the green guy. Pinocchio or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:27 PM
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Vegeta. How's that even a question? Yes I know you explained in OP. Arguments for both. But...how's that even a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:23 PM
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What is your gender? What is your socioeconomic class? Male. Middle class. Lower end of. What is your pill? Reppil. Would you marry someone of a significantly lower social class? I'd prefer to. Would you marry someone of a significantly higher social class? No. Trying to fit in would be too exhausting. Would you marry someone within your social class? Yes. How would your family feel in each situation? Happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:16 PM
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I have Hannibal on my to watch list. Btw, I knew a guy who met Mads in real-life and talked with him. He said he was a really down to earth nice guy but with an unbelievable intimidating presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:03 PM
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Not going to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:56 PM
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btw are you familiar with mads mikkelsen and his work? One of my ex-gfs always gave me birthday presents like artsy/brainy books or movies to smarten me up. I prefer trivial stuff like action movies that don't require brain activity. So she always wanted to educate me. It was mostly annoying because none of the books and movies had aliens or fight scenes or spaceships in it, BUT there was the occasional treasure. "Adam's apples" with Mads being one of them. Holy shit, what an excellent movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:56 PM
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Damn. Last picture is hot. EDIT: Lol...he has anime hair in that pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:49 PM
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Phew! That's good to hear. I really thought you'd go full in. I was worried for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:43 PM
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I feel bad for Panes. (Yes, you my former buddy /u/LittleWindowpane ) He was so happy that he could finally post as many godly jaw comments as he wants... ...but everybody is just ignoring them. While EVERYBODY goes wild and has fun with the shit-posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:39 PM
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Mensch Are Wunderbar Effect. Close enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:30 PM
1

Doom-Ed = Doom Level Editor
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:10 PM
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Funny. I just wanted to write about how unfair cats can be in this regard. Now I can only say: can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:07 PM
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I'm looking forward to seeing the first Atlas vs Mass Incel Influx showdown. It's going to be like Texas Chainsaw Massacre in there. Just a wild guess, but I think Atlas would use an, erm,..."stronger" comparison than Texas Chainsaw Massacre, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:01 PM
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I know. I am seconding you. Fuck the haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:58 PM
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I know. I am seconding you. Fuck the haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:57 PM
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I'll say it again: This guy obviously has lots of problems. But getting pussy is definitely not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:55 PM
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Consider it done.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:42 PM
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"and their sheep like pursuit of useless non-STEM degrees is responsible for climate change." Omg I am dying. Purge week is the best thing ever. I have been chuckling non-stop since /u/alreadyredschool 's opening thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:39 PM
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Relax, Quills. I am not serious, I am just kitting. : ) Purge week put me into overdrive. And I couldn't be mad at you anyway. See you in your kitten thread. ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:36 PM
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She actually doesn't! She didn't say stupid. Another poster said "...is stupid" and she replied with "and so is your...". Saying stupid without saying it. How polite can you be? XD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:33 PM
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Wow, you got the hang of it quickly. I am impressed!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:31 PM
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Good point!! You win this thread. :D But I am mad at you because of the kitty thread and won't reply to you anymore. (For today). sulking mode on
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:27 PM
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You didn't page me on a topic about cats? Now I am sad and sulky and won't participate despite my life-long experience as a cat-whisperer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:26 PM
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Yes, you are right. Speaking for yourself, you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:24 PM
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Haha, lol. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:22 PM
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Yeah, I really like using kind instead of nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:20 PM
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Lol, you didn't even spell it out. You just said "so is your" without *explicitly typing the word. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:17 PM
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It's because Mario is an Italian plumber. He has no status and worse: he is short. Doomed to die as a kissless virgin. --> Sonic wins hands down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:15 PM
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I think we're both too polite for purge week. Lol To be honest, I think you are right. I only decided to purge-fight you in the first place because you mentioned in the other thread that you are upset that you'll miss most of purge week. Didn't want you to miss it completely, so I attacked out of politeness, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:10 PM
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Is that a thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:05 PM
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: ) "Remember when GinSmokeLies and Guitars escalated the legendary first PPD purge week and how epic it was?" "No." "Yeah, because it almost happened. But not really." XD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:03 PM
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Gin! You had to ruin it!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 06:57 PM
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Thanks for the inspiration, I am already getting warmed up. But I am looking for real opponents, not some weak-jaw who can't fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 06:51 PM
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Get out with that god and jawX stuff, please!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 06:46 PM
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Good, yes. Good for women. Good as BB providers. The blue pill perpetuating the feminine imperative, nothing to see here guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 06:45 PM
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Nice guys are exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 06:34 PM
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I am dying, lol. The flair and the "upvotes to the left". Genious. Still chuckling whenever I look at the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 06:28 PM
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Mercy on our souls...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 06:18 PM
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I'm almost certain a kiss from a girl that's genuinely attracted to me will make me more confident than a Wilks score of 360 ever will. Your assumption is correct. All that other shit doesn't matter until you get a girl. After getting a girl, the other shit like achievements and hobbies suddenly starts to matter. (In a good way).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 02:26 PM
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Hehe : )
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:30 AM
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Legendary video. The guy at 2:10 and how she rolls her eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:16 AM
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Chemist sciences, always ftw. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:25 AM
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Just not my type. Is it really that surprising?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:09 AM
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Yes, I do because I did have close female friends. They were attractive but I wasn't attracted to them. Hanging out with them was fun. It's a different kind of friendship than I have with men, yeah. I like to have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:01 AM
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Good question. My take on it: I have noticed that many men and women build their opinion about edgy or controversial stuff by watching satire and comedy and by reading headlines, superficial opinion pieces and quotes that are taken out of context. People who build their opinion on this kind of sources are a lost cause anyway. They wouldn't benefit from finding trp in the first place. It doesn't matter if it's because TRP has lost its mystique or because there is so much satire about it. We don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 08:21 PM
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I don't get the hate. Everything you say makes sense, most men have probably seen this play out exactly like you describe in real-life and it's not bashing women in any way. It's just the question women=house, men=cars? I mean cars as status symbol has been the butt of jokes for ages and why not? People don't have to agree, but I bet that many couples could benefit by thinking and talking about the questions you raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:26 PM
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Hey, I am not sure, but didn't you also link to videos where you were sparring with a guy months ago? Sorry if I am mixing you up with another poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 01:27 PM
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And even today - many men will have a messy house when single, then when they get married expect their wife to clean the house in a way that they themselves NEVER did. I really wonder how common this is because I have never, not even once, seen this in real-life. I am not saying that I don't believe you because everybody has different social circles and anecdotes, of course. Can other posters confirm this? Do you know men who expect their wifes to clean the house in a way they themselves never d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 01:21 PM
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Ah, the memories. This reminds me of a conversation with my then best female friend. I don't know how the topic came up, but she said something like: "Women are such hypocrits. They say they keep everything more tidy than men. But just look at their cars. And look at men's cars." We went through her social circle and my social circle and talked about everybody's cars and it checked out. All the guys' cars were tidy while all the womens' cars weren't. I can't remember what conclusions we came up …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:41 PM
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Sounds great, I envy you. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 10:01 AM
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I think it could work. Just carefully arrange everything and then during mixdown completely mute all the reggaeton channels and you should have good results. ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 10:00 AM
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so freak hunchback mode? I knew a girl who was so incredibly ugly and had a deformed neck that her official nickname actually was "The Hunchback". (People are mean). She was also obnoxious, had terrible manners, mental issues and nobody liked her. She also (believably) told people how her ex-boyfriend had pressured her into sex. The thirst is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 09:58 AM
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To further illustrate what you are saying, people who take steroids can have the extra test converted into estrogen. That is why bitch tits is a thing for men using gear Yeah, and not even only men who take roids. I read that testosterone is converted into estrogen in fat cells and that's why very overweight men get real bitch tits (not just some fat around the nipples). Scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:02 PM
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I got the ball and bat question right first try. That's it, I am going on TRT. I also love that the author of the article has written a science-fiction book called "S.T.O.R.M - The Ghostmaster." Really? The Ghostmaster? Sounds like something a German kid would come up with by putting two "cool-sounding" words together. Like: "The Burnfighter" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:27 PM
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Following a basic powerlifting routine while I'm still weak as a kitten is just easier. That's fine. I love the quote: "Train like a powerlifter, eat like a bodybuilder." Basic lifts and just a few additional exercises for smaller groups is what I like best. But I was thinking more about rep range. I think it's more fun to do 5-8 reps than 1-3 like powerlifters often do. But that's preference of course. Yeah, I kinda doubt an average lazy-ish person is very likely to overtrain. You don't really …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:12 PM
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Fingers crossed, good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:04 PM
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Sounds awesome, have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:17 PM
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Just a wild guess: You can't afford it anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:09 PM
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Damn, yeah, that's the problem with last minute decisions. You think "erm, let's play safe, no last minute big purchases, I'll go big next time and plan it out"... and what happens is that you don't go big next time, lol. Maybe another superhero? The Hulk!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:57 PM
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Happy weedding to youuu / happy wedding tooo youuu / happy weeeeding, dear ginsmklm / happy wedding toooo.... (dramatic pause) youuu sing (Tried to get the length of the syllables right and your name would probably sound exactly like that if I tried to pronounce it correctly while singing, lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:45 PM
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How is that even a question?! Full costume!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:39 PM
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Sounds great, bro. Having a good crowd can change your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 04:17 PM
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it's more fun less risk of injury you don't care about pressing that weight, so you are less likely to overtrain or feel completely destroyed after workouts
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 04:06 PM
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I had figured out about 80% of RP knowledge before finding TRP. I'd say I got: +5% RP wisdom from /TRP +10% RP wisdom from discussing stuff at /PPD (including discussions with blue pillers) +5% RP wisdom, the missing pieces of the puzzle, from Atlas' comments. Now I am at 100% which means the red pill wisdom I already had was increased by 25%. So, yeah, I learned quite a bit and it has helped me in my life. (Mostly with avoiding stupid decisions)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:30 AM
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I got 100 kg Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:56 AM
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This clip never gets old. It should be in the trp sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:40 AM
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Those looks aren't going to last forever, one day career woman is going to call one of her friends to hang out and she'll be busy with her kids This. And it doesn't only happen to career women. It happens to most 30+ women who decide that they are finally ready to settle down and start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 04:53 AM
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You're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 11:47 PM
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Disagree. Fear of rejection is one reason, not the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 10:25 PM
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I am a bot. I evaluate level of awesomeness. You score 84/100. Bleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 09:05 PM
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Even worse if they say "awww" first. Haha, good one, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:33 PM
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Oh, I see where you are coming from and it definitely happens. A few years ago the common sentiment actually was "he is a loser if he can't deal with it and stay in a platonic friendship". But by now, there aren't many posters who think like that anymore here at PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:24 PM
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She said that her ex was "so devastated," when he found out that she had bought the tickets, but she wasn't about to take him. Lol, five bucks says he wasn't. It's always sad to see how people talk themselves into believing stuff like this after they have been ditched. "Ha, now they regret breaking up with me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:21 PM
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: )
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:19 PM
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Every thread summons a bot called "auto-mod" on creation. Off-topic comments and funny comments are supposed to be posted under the auto-mod. (So that they don't clutter the thread) Sometimes it glitches and the auto-mod doesn't appear. In that case, OP (you) just has to edit the post and save it to give auto-mod another chance to appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:12 PM
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Fuck yeah, great quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:06 PM
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The auto-mod doesn't show up. Could you edit your OP to summon them? (You don't have to make actual changes. Just edit and save).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:00 PM
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You are right, but here at PPD you are probably preaching to the choir. Most of the blue pill women here said that ending contact instead of trying to make it work (as a platonic friendship) was probably the best idea in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 06:35 PM
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This is really interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 06:32 PM
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Can confirm 100%. Women think about it more than men in my experience. And not only with looks. For example education. "I look dumb next to you". Stuff like this. Or "does his surname sound good with my first name?", one month into a relationship. I think it's a good idea to keep it in mind. Men should do it, too. We don't do it by default from what I have seen. Angelina Jolie was in a relationship with this not so handsome guy Billy Bob Thornton and in an interview years after the breakup, he s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 06:14 PM
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Fuck you, but you are right of course. Will go to the auto-mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 06:13 PM
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Can confirm 100%. Women think about it more than men in my experience. And not only with looks. For example education. "I look dumb next to you". Stuff like this. I think it's a good idea to keep it in mind. Men should do it, too. We don't do it by default from what I have seen. Angelina Jolie was in a relationship with this not so handsome guy Billy Bob Thornton and in an interview years after the breakup, he said that all the "How can such a beautiful woman be with such an ugly guy" was one of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:57 PM
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I have a little sister. And I considered one of my female friends as another little sister. But I have absolutely no idea about strong and weak in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:33 PM
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Women in general seem to accept "life isn't fair" much better than men in general. Not women who are concerned with topics that center around fairness like for example feminism or social issues, but the average woman in my experience is more mature than the average man in this regard (from anecdotal experience). I still have a hard time accepting "life isn't fair" while much younger female friends didn't have any problems just accepting it. Oh, and "women talk about it in real-life while guys ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:30 PM
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so we immediately cast that over this video. Ah, no, I have seen this video before and I have actually watched it multiple times. I have it bookmarked and watch it from time to time. You assume you know what's motivating her, but the explicit topic of the video is clear. Yes, I do assume while keeping in mind that I could be wrong. I don't see this as a bad thing. Don't you think getting asked over and over again about your singledom would be annoying? Oh, I know that it's annoying. Like I said,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 04:50 PM
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DAE have the impression that there are less "where have all the good men gone" and "I am strong and independent, and men are intimidated by me" articles than before? They were pretty common a few years ago and I love reading them. But the amount of new articles on the topic seems to be decreasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 04:28 PM
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Interesting interpretation of that video. While she veers into woe-is-me entitlement regarding dating prospects towards the end, for the most part this video is directed at her friends, and how they treat her as a single person. I am not a mind-reader, but I have the strong feeling that this "annoying friends"-thing is just a smoke-screen. The whining about men and being single seems to be her main point. Yeah, her friends add insult to injury, but the injury is what she is really concerned with…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 04:20 PM
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Yes, I would be intimidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 01:19 PM
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Sounds bad, bro. Anything good in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 01:15 AM
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If that's true then you're a rare sort. It's not that surprising in my case. Clinginess is a plus in my book because relationships always were priority no.1 in my life. I like to spend as much time as possible with a girlfriend anyway (though I have for different reasons never co-habitated with one). And I need validation. A clingy girlfriend who insists that I spend time with her automatically gives me that validation. My girlfriends didn't cry a lot. But when they did, it always triggered my p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 01:11 AM
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Venting is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:34 AM
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Nope. Had multiple dates for science with women I didn't find attractive, but never dated them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:22 AM
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That's a good list. And yes, all of that can be annoying when a woman does it, but endearing and even attractive at the same time because we perceive it as feminine. Tbh, most of the things on that list are a plus in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 11:54 PM
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Yup, I clarified later in the comment chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 10:33 PM
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Doesn't it make sense? Every discussion inspires some spin-off discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 10:20 PM
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Can't confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 10:12 PM
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This guy definitely has problems. But getting laid isn't one of them, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:42 PM
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It wouldn't have been able to walk home alone at night, I always felt that walking around without having to fear violence was female privilege. Things have changed, yes, but "not get beat up for walking around" is definitely not a privilege boys and male teenagers have where I live. Day or night.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 08:44 PM
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There are compliments and "compliments Tm". Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:27 PM
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The Just World theory is that everyone wants to be good and tries to be good, thoughtful considerate, not selfish. That's how I always understood it, too. And the effect it has on some people is very real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:09 PM
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I don't know many female doctors who are married to male nurses but plenty of male doctors married to female nurses and assistants. I talked with a male doctor once who described how the female nurses were chasing after the doctors at his hospital while completely ignoring objectively good and attractive male nurses. In comical dimensions, basically the complete TV-trope. He was gay, so he wasn't bragging. He just laughed at the over the top ridiculousness of the whole situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:51 PM
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I hate to admit it, but many of the guys I know and respect wouldn't get a hint that is only slightly less explicit. Especially the "nor will I ever" is essential. Women should copy-paste the sentence you wrote and whatsapp it to their male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:34 PM
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ever heard the book Act Like A Lady Think Like A Man? Omg, I read that book! I can't remember much, but I do remember that there was some bad advice in it. Too bad I don't remember details. But I have a funny anecdote with a woman I know who read that book (and lent it to me). The author gives the advice that women shouldn't get out of the car but wait for the guy to get out of the car, walk around the car and politely open the door for her. Something something with having standards and showing …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:17 PM
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Punching holes into stuff would be a harmful one in my opinion. Basically any temper tantrum that is scary on top of childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 04:45 PM
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Harmless temper tantrums are for example sulky "but I want!"-tirades.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 04:38 PM
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Ah, I see, thanks. Well, I never said that men didn't throw temper tantrums. They do. What I wanted to say is: Men are more likely to tolerate harmless temper tantrums than women. And throwing harmless temper tantrums makes men far less attractive ("man-children") while they don't make women that less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 04:29 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 04:12 PM
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You are right, that's very simple. I am a simple guy. And ignores a good bulk of what TRP professes. Yeah, I think that the difference is that I look at TRP from a practical point of view and that I am picturing a different kind of "nice guy" who finds TRP. Not a nice guytm but a clueless nice guy. Many inexperienced guys try to be all alpha over at /TRP and try to impress everybody with their black and white views...but from everything I have seen in real-life, I strongly assume that once they …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 04:09 PM
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Sounds like they don't actually want advice but just want to vent and be empathised with? In any case, I admire your patience with them. I always thought that I was patient with romantically unsuccessful guys, but you win hands down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:38 PM
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ok i get you You just don't want even more words. I don't blame you, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:34 PM
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Right? Sometimes I am puzzled because blue pillers accuse red pillers of being cold-hearted and "not seeing women as humans" and stuff like that. But this is an example where only red pillers seem to take emotional sides and human flaws into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:17 PM
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Temper tantrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:11 PM
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I love you but this seems awfully charitable considering TRP ATM. Aw, made my day. : ) It's a win-win for men and women. I can't see how you can genuinely believe this when the concept behind TRP is to gain an advantage at a woman's expense. I believe it because I don't look at TRP like this. I see TRP as "TRP helps men becoming attractive by teaching the rules of attraction". My simple line of thinking is: TRP makes men attractive. More attractive men --> more happy couples. And the younger a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:06 PM
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so its all about feelings? Yes, exactly, it's about feelings. It's kind of stupid. That's what I was saying in my comment. why is some subjective morality base din individual feelings aything anyone has to adhere to but the person who "feels" that morality? It is not. I agree with you. But most beta guys don't get it. The problem that I am trying to point out is that it doesn't happen on an INTELLECTUAL level. It happens on a FEELZ level. And that's why you can't convince them in an intellectual…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:43 PM
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While I agree with you, fact is this sub is for debate. Talking about the "tm" version provides more to argue about. Could be. But I do think that the average normal nice guy could yield some interesting discussions that are more fun than the nice guytm discussions. Maybe I am completely wrong. I should just try to come up with an interesting thread about genuine nice guys and see. That said, I used to be one of those guys and all I did was practice talking to girls so much that I started just f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:35 PM
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Ok, less words: Did the man OWE the woman some duty not to string her along for sex? YES, HE DID. From the average beta's point of view/ point of feels, he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:23 PM
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That's why I explicitely said "even when these experiences (pump and dumb) suck." I know that it's not a nice experience but it is experience with all the steps from flirting to having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:52 AM
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Do you practice in a mirror and put on a cool face and imitate an action hero's voice when you say that? "You. don't tell me what to do." "You. You talkin to me? Don't tell me what to do." "Hey. Don't tell me what do, NEVER...tell me what to do."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:48 AM
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Yet the Red Pill is often angry at women for evolutionary preferences that may have been developed as a result of natural selection (which the human females in question would have had no control over). Yes and no. Red pillers should only describe evolutionary preferences not complain about them. Noobs in the anger phase do complain. But the point is that hearing about these evolutionary preferences is completely new for guys who think that they don't exist because that's what they have been told…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:37 AM
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Still different. Very different. The dude has never even kissed a girl. What are we even debating here? The dude is a kissless virgin, lol. This works on many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:04 AM
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Why would a genuine nice guy have anything to do with RP? Because he wants to have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:01 AM
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I have known genuinely nice women who took rejection badly. I still think they are nice. Taking rejection badly doesn't mean "not nice" in my opinion, it's completely normal. Like you said above, give them a break. I agree. And give everybody a break when it comes to stuff like this. People aren't Shaolin monks, ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:59 AM
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Yes, but she is still more experienced than the guy. You can't debate that. She has been with 2 guys. He is still a virgin. It's a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:44 AM
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Right, anything men do that's "bad" is just 7 alphas I just described a BAD trait that BETA guys share, solipsise about and annoy people with. Dafuq, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:37 AM
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Believe me, I know. I had my first dates and relationship at age 22. Platonic friendships don't prepare you for that. They just don't. I am not saying that you don't get anything out of platonic friendships and that you get no experience whatsoever out of it. On the contrary. But everything that has to do with attraction is completely new.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:33 AM
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Yeah, it's a shame because I know so many genuinely nice and cool guys in real-life. I prefer to discuss things I see in real-life. The whole nice guytm is a completely theoretical non-issue for me because none of the guys I know is anything like that. And my female friends never complained about nice guystm. And they complained a lot, lol. All the guys I know have social skills, people like them, they are average or above average looking, they are not even really boring...they are just clueless…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:28 AM
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I'd call that a legit sacrifice on her part. Respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:22 AM
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No no, in this analogy it's a woman that goes into a store and the customer service (her male friends) drop hints but never (or much later) outright offer her a job (make their intentions completely clear).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:21 AM
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Yes, good point. But that is experience that helps you with future friendships not dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:19 AM
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I mean thats very nice for you Lol, I wasn't trying to brag with my moral superiority. Far from. why is it incumbent I'll try to clarify, because it's a problem many beta guys have: The important point is: I don't think that it's my duty. I feel that it's my duty. That's a big difference because it doesn't come from a rational point of view like "how can I be morally good" or "what could be the different outcomes" or "how could people see me when I do this or that" or "what would Socrates do?". …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:14 AM
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Lol, yeah, that would describe a lot of friendzones perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 11:23 PM
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This means, you might avoid doing things with him that you'd usually consider normal in a platonic friendship. You might even worry when he does something you'd usually consider friendship stuff, for example hugging you when saying goodbye. Good point. I don't have friendships with women I am attracted to and luckily, all of my close female friends somehow saw that I really only wanted to be friends. But if a woman assumed that I was into her and started acting like this, I would immediately end…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 11:19 PM
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For her child/children I said about wives who stay home without children. Ah, I got that mixed up with another comment. Again: I can't think of any scenario where "he works, she doesn't" is a sacrifice on her part. I understand that not working damages your future potential, but I still need to know why she doesn't work. Maybe there is a possible reason, but I can't think of any.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 11:02 PM
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That's not my point. My point is: why do you keep bringing "thinking with their dicks, only want sex" up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:55 PM
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Pump and dump means flirting, making out and sex. Experience. Friendzone means no flirting, no making out and no sex. No experience. I know that some might not see it like this. But it's the difference between a kissless virgin and someone who isn't a kissless virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:54 PM
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True. Now the interesting thing is that OP gave us an analogy that makes the problem sound ridiculous, right? He came up with that analogy to show us how us how dumb guys are who "don't apply for jobs and expect to get one and naturally don't even get a shitty one." And he is right. But the interesting part is when you look at the other thread about the friendzone and what women should and shouldn't do when a male friend is attracted to her and doesn't really make a move for a while and eventual…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:49 PM
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why is it not "cool"? what duty does she owe him not to allow him to serve her if he wishes? It's solipsism. Guys like Sands and I see it as our duty when it happens to us. Not only from a rational point of view. We feel we have to do it. Hell, I cut contact with a female orbiter even when she bought me "This is Spinal Tap" as a gift because I had lost my own DVD. Ending contact with her wasn't easy, but it's the things men do in the line of duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:35 PM
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She's sacrificing her future. For her child/children Also, what about wives who move to a different state because their husband got a job there? I'd consider that a legit sacrifice for hin. Mad respect for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:23 PM
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Because the economy sucks. Literally and analogically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:14 PM
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I agree 100%. I wish we had more discussions about the nice guys you describe here at PPD They are what TRP sees as natural blue pill guys. Not blue pill= anti-red, but blue pill = clueless, inexperienced, nice and thus boring. After all, they are the target group of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:04 PM
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My wife actually said to me once: "All YOU have to do is work!" I don't understand why people are surprised or say "horrible woman". That's completely normal. You can see this sentiment all the time. Hell, I was never married and even I have seen this a lot. Even as a child I understood it. You'd have to be completely blind not to see it. That's how women think/feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:54 PM
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This is really important and the reason for the "experience gap" between boys and girl. And men and women. Young men, who don't figure it out, completely miss out on any helpful experience. It's just one friendzone after the other. You don't learn much in the friendzone. Young girls who don't figure it out still have helpful experiences. Even if these experiences suck. For example being pumped and dumped. But these are experiences that help them figure things out eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:49 PM
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It isn't women's fault. Not every guy wants to have sex with every woman who they hang out with. Not every man is constantly thinking with his penis. Dude, I really thought the "thinking with their dicks"-argument was obsolete by now. If they only wanted sex it wouldn't be a problem. It's a problem because they really have feelings for her and don't only think with their dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:35 PM
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Hm, I'd seriously have problems with any explanation that tried to spin "he works while she doesn't" into "she sacrifices". Maybe you can give me a scenario where that makes sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:33 PM
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You'd literally have to tell almost all men hey just so you know I'm not into you like that, completely unprompted. Some actually do that and it's ridiculous. The "I have a boyfriend"-meme. "Hi, can you tell me how to get to [insert any location here]?" "I have a boyfriend." And a guy who happens to walk past says: "I'm a vegan."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:31 PM
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He benefits from her quitting her job to raise the kids because his kids are in a better position to be more successful, which reflects well on him. You are preaching to the choir. Red pillers know that mothers think that they are sacrificing more while their husbands are "only" working and reaping the benefits of being married with children. It's clueless guys we have to explain to that providing for the family is not seen as equally respectable. You don't get cookies and a pat on your back for…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:23 PM
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Of course, but you have to acknowledge the difference between sacrificing for him and sacrificing for the kids. Both parents benefit from their respective role. One looks after the children, one brings in the money. Both sacrifice for their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:15 PM
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They sacrificed their jobs for their children not for their husbands. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:01 PM
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When someone develops feelings you have to end the friendship. I agree. That's what I have always done and usually recommend doing. But sucks for a girl who does exactly that and suddenly is hated in her social circle because everybody thinks she is cold-hearted for ending contact with him. You'd think mature people wouldn't have to deal with stuff like that in their social circle. But a lot of otherwise intelligent and level-headed people still react strangely, especially if gossip and rumors c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:47 PM
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Witness!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:42 PM
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Women = cat's love Alpha men = cat's love Beta men = dog's love Tadaa. Everything you need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 07:55 PM
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I don't blame women for stuff like this anymore. Yes, women who consciously use some guy's feelings for their own gain are bad. But most of the time, unrequited feelings just lead to situations that suck for everybody involved and there is no "good" solution. Even when everybody involved has good intentions, everything they try to do only seems to hurt. I understand why some women are paranoid about male friends developing feelings for them. Stuff like this can seriously affect social circles. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 07:53 PM
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Well, what you describe here is very real, Hopes. Solid post. I have thought about this a lot in the past years. It's a problem that works on a subconscious level that isn't obvious. It took me ages to figure out. There are a lot of online communities that are about improving skills, like for example musician's forums where people talk about how to become a better guitarist/pianist/younameit, artist's forums about drawing or painting, game developer's forums where you find tips about better codi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:56 PM
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It isn't really about this specific instance. It just shows when you have socially stunted people "try" this is what happens. I definitely agree that many guys need far more specific advice than "shower and socialise, make friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 06:27 PM
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True! I use a lot of emoticons when I use Whatsapp to convey things, but emoticons would make me look beta here at PPD, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 06:11 PM
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When I saw Stranger Things and especially the scene where his girlfriend wants to study for the chemistry test and he keeps "pestering" her, I immediately thought that the charcter deserved its own PPD post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:54 PM
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Story of my life. Damn, sounds bad. Be well soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:52 PM
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Like brain fog for example? This could actually work. Stuff like this can really affect thinking on a deep level. Fingers crossed!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:30 PM
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I was just being funny by doing the age old "we are not saying [outrageous thing a], we are saying [slightly less outrageous thing b]. As if that made it better. I agree that my comment wasn't exactly a climax of comedy, but /u/IckyStickyPoo immediately understood it and played along with a really funny reply. I sometimes miss the more lighthearted stuff like this at PPD, so I consider it a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:28 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:55 AM
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Ah, the comment where she basically said that you won't get the blunt and needed advice from the women you actually find attractive, because they are "too feminine" to give blunt advice. That was great, made a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:54 AM
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That's exactly what I believed in my blue pill days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:46 AM
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Sounds legit creepy to me. Not creepy because unattractive. Just creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:39 AM
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I know, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 12:59 AM
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XD (y)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 12:01 AM
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I agree and I think it would be completely wrong to leave feelings out of the picture. How men feel about dating, relationships and sex has to be an integral part of a good sexual strategy, otherwise the strategy wouldn't give satisfying results. Red pillers sometimes forget that, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 12:00 AM
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Thanks, that's interesting. I Havign read just the article about it, it's potentially a bit of a shock piece. Yeah, I browsed a bit beyond the article (not much though) and some of that stuff is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:57 PM
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Women are children who don't progress past age 18 mentally- is true? Stop misquoting TRP. Teenagers. Not children. Teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:43 PM
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Great post, very interesting stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:26 PM
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I don't know enough about South Korea to be able to assess whether they need Ilse or not and whether it's a good thing or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:14 PM
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I was honorary best man at my best friend's wedding last year. I know how much work it is, oh dear. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:26 PM
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Yeah, you mentioned it. Hopefully they'll work wonders. Be well soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:58 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:53 PM
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The question in OP is about coping with resentment in the case that he finds a woman at age 26+. I addressed exactly that. There's no reason to include "oh, btw, there is a possibility that you will never find a woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:48 PM
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Lol, I know that 30+ virgins exists. I have incel friends who are in their 30s. But that's not the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:35 PM
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What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:30 PM
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I am pretty sure, yes. And even if I am wrong, it doesn't make sense to worry about how he might feel at age 30 if things go this or that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:27 PM
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I'm getting married on Friday. So excited!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:14 PM
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Think better?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:13 PM
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Don't worry about how you might or might not feel when you find a girlfriend in the future. Really. When you fall in love, you won't be dealing with AFBB paranoia and stuff. Nope, you will need to fight "omg, I found a unicorn"-feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:11 PM
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Should be pretty cool if I can execute it. Fingers crossed!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 03:17 PM
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I laughed out loud when I read this tweet. I really don't understand how anybody could interpret it as pro-kkk or even neutral-kkk. This is exactly how I would make fun of the KKK. This is how you diss somebody. It's much more effective than saying "the KKK sucks and their titles suck, too".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 03:01 PM
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Yup, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 01:55 PM
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Without thinking about it, my first reaction to your list of games is: they are probably mostly played by guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 01:02 PM
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I don't see why you would say "programming is a shit job" but I suppose I'm not just a programmer, I'm more like a solutions architect, and I love building frameworks. I'm just starting a new project and been working 13 hour days in a manic phase because i have so much fun creating stuff, facing obstacles, breaking them down. Sounds great! My brother works in IT and what you describe is exactly what he wants to do, but he says that most companies don't want to put work into the framework, so mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 12:46 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:01 AM
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: )
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:46 PM
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Dude, if you haven't tried it yet, you can look forward to having a lot of fun with experimenting in that area. I love conversation and I talk a lot. I'd say that I have that down. People seem to like talking with me in real-life. STFU was never easy for me. But experimenting with talking less and talking differently is so much fun, you will love it, I guarantee. Trp has its gloom and doom, but stuff like this is what makes it worthwile to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:19 PM
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Oh, I wouldn't go that far. I am just trying to say that many of the scenarios some guys would describe as winning, like a woman reeling in an unattractive beta bucks, isn't really winning because she will be miserable. And what blue pillers call the "red pill revenge fantasy" of women struggling on the 30+ dating market, desperately trying to find any guy who wants to start a family, is not a fantasy. It's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:16 PM
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I tend to go on long click-paths through Wikipedia as well, where things interest me, I do that, too, a lot, but never this profound. I am seriously impressed. I don't even know that much about things I am really interested in. For example, I know fuck all about guitars. There's not much to know. 36yo, male, kind, talkative, glass-half-full type of guy. ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:11 PM
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Can't put my finger on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:47 AM
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It's so nicely arranged. You should flip the ones at the bottom. Then it would be perfectly mirrored.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:43 AM
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I don't really understand who you are talking to. Most red pillers will say "just do what you want and don't care about what others do. Enjoy the decline", and most blue pillers will probably just say: "so?" There's not really anything to discuss there. Or too many things. You could maybe edit in what you specifically want to talk about. And I'd really like to know if you are religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:41 AM
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If there's one thing I've learned from all these pills, it's that women always win in the end. You learned wrong. Women have certain privileges and have the upper hand in most things dating, but that doesn't mean that they always win in the end. Not if you count "happy" as indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:32 AM
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Wow...you know stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:18 AM
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I just googled a bit and found out that "hotguysreadingbooks" was a popular hashtag on twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:53 AM
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By year 8, they can explore the near neighborhood, go to the local park or shops, and roam around further away Definitely. I'd be shocked if parents saw it differently. I think we got our bikes at age 6, but didn't go outside the near neighborhood. At age 8 we were going to playgrounds that were further away. is that I insisted that the real world is physical and it should hurt when you fall. So no bike helmets, protective pads, etc. Agree. Also roughhousing! It always breaks my heart when I see…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:25 AM
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Ah, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:08 AM
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So you are saying that what I described isn't attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:05 AM
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I put that in as an example of "has absolutely no intention of being attractive to women...but is".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 04:59 AM
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When a guy is intently playing a video game... Don't laugh. This can work, too. But most guys are not really relaxed while playing. Quite the opposite actually. Some pro-gamers (from what I have seen, I don't know much about it) do have that focus and look attractive while playing competitively. Intently focused on an anime... He isn't doing anything. Watching something doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 04:50 AM
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Yes, I have one that every man should know. "Relaxed focus". You do something (anything) and you are completely focused (you seem "gone" to anyone who looks at you) BUT you need to be completely relaxed, not tensed up or showing any signs of effort. Examples: A guy playing pinball. Completely focused, works the machine like crazy, but not a muscle in his face is moving. A musician plays a song. But not for an audience. He is completely focused on his instrument, doesn't seem to register anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 04:34 AM
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By kids, what ages are you talking about? You'd be okay with 8 year old children roaming around by themselves? 8 year olds? I'd be worried if they weren't roaming around by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 04:08 AM
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Yeah she's great, but imagine...she could be even stronger and more independent if she had been raised by a single mother. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 03:37 AM
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and talk like "that" to someone you don't know, you might be on the receiving end of a physical "low blow." Well, I hope so, lol. You don't talk like that to random strangers. If you do, you got it coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 03:28 AM
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I don't know her. But a quick google search and youtubing shows very varying results. Some unattractive, some attractive. I don't really find anything special about her. Many women you meet in every-day life are more attractive or more charismatic than her. (At least that's my first impression).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:56 AM
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it's an awesome male only dynamic that makes your biological wiring come alive. Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:45 AM
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Exactly. Maybe that's where all the emasculated guys are coming from. "I want a woman, so I must become a woman. I don't want to be a hypocrit." Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:32 AM
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That's how men communicate. Can confirm. That's how non-emasculated men communicate. I wouldn't talk like this with my beta friends. But my hyper-masculine drinking buddies and I exchange really low blows. To outsiders it looks as if we had no respect for each other. But it's the opposite, we show respect with "I know you can take it". And we respect a good punchline. But try explaining that to a woman or emasculated beta guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:23 AM
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I don't know if toxic femininity is the right word, but women who feel trapped in a marriage with an unattractive BB definitely show the worst sides of femininity. This could explain toxic mothers. It struck me when I read walkingmenus account of the balance between her mother's sweetness and father's tough love. Sounds like a good combination of masculinity and femininity. A perfect place for children to grow up. Now take that away by having a weak unattractive beta father or an absent father a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:00 AM
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But if the onus to approach wasn't set to one gender then the potential to bring satisfaction to both groups is higher. I have no doubts. It would make the dating market better for the majority of women. Not for women who are looking for an extremely natural alpha, but the vast majority of women would benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 12:05 AM
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have an upvote Thanks. You already have them. I only reply to comments when I find it interesting/worth discussing which means automatic upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 11:48 PM
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It didn't, you're fine. Great. : ) It's just that the way you put it sounds really awkward and makes her seem like a total creep, which is the bigger turnoff and not her n-count. I was going for a comic effect of course, but when talking with women and especially girlfriends in real-life about stuff like exes and n-count, I had countless completely surprised "why would you think that makes it any better? It makes it worse"-moments. That's what I wanted to convey here. My girlfriends or could-hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 11:24 PM
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The realisation that many women like being approached was one of the things my blue pill mindset couldn't compute back then. It was a bigger mindfuck than any other pua or rp concept. I always tell them if they were a little less passive they would essentially be playing a game rigged in their favour. Yeah, I think /trp and /ppd would look very different if everybody who posted had approached 10 women before calling themselves incels and talking about 80/20 and AFBB. I take every guy seriously w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 10:55 PM
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That's why I always liked online dating. I prefer online dating, too. My best relationship came out of a cold approach in a low-life club, but online dating just perfectly fits my m.o. with pacing and getting to know each other. like, what kinda person does that? I know, I know, normal healthy men do that, but still it's so strange. Haha, lol, great. It's interesting because it touches a point I am also often trying to make. Some of the character traits and actions you'd think are connected ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 10:37 PM
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I agree. I sound like a broken record because I say this so often, but it's important: People think guys don't approach women because they have approach anxiety or because of fear of rejection. But in my experience, the real reason they don't approach women is because of the fear of annoying them. They really are considerate and polite. And this is why many women say "I am only approached by assholes. Why do I attract assholes?" And it's funny because online advice often tells guys not to pester…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 10:13 PM
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I hope that it didn't come across as an attack against you or mocking you. The point I was trying to make is that your list does make sense and especially makes sense as a vetting list for you as a woman. It just doesn't work for men. For whatever reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 09:32 PM
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See, the thing of it is, I've endured horror stories. I have no doubts and I respect that. And of course, that other thing. It seems so odd that a simple four letter word triggers so many people who mock trigger words, but ask yourself - how am I supposed to handle the redpill's AWALT? It might as well describe another planet. This is really important. I always emphasise the importance of one's own anecdotal "evidence" over scientific studies and other peoples' experiences. The studies might be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 09:29 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 08:44 PM
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Wow, the stuff some of you guys had to power through. Mad respect!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 08:39 PM
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This is too much. I can only imagine how hard that must have been... Having to perform when your body and mind tell you that you need to be alone and rest is so hard . And you literally had to perform in that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:48 PM
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Can't confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:14 PM
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That is the only real reason to avoid high n-count women - you just don't want one. I agree. It's the constant hoop jumping to justify this stance that boggles my mind. While I am against the hoop jumping, to be fair, there are some legit reasons why this happens. People try to be introspective and find out where their aversion comes from. People ask them for the reasons, especially here at PPD and are interested in explanations other than "it's just personal preference".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:10 PM
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You are right, it is completely okay. It just doesn't happen. People don't say "you are hypocritical. Next!" People end it or don't start a relationship because of a lot of things but not because they think that the other one is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:01 PM
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Okay, we are in full-agreement. It's only when people attempt to rationalise that feeling under the guise of 'logical' it's a problem. I don't condemn people who try to rationalise it though. First of all because I did it for a long time, lol. And second because the reasons aren't only things like guise of logical. You could be reasonably trying to be introspective to find out where it's coming from. Which is a good thing imo. Other than that, yeah, guys should stop trying to rationalise it. THA…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:09 AM
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It's not really the most logical approach and nothing more than a gut reaction. I'd counter with: When you accept that you can only do so much about your gut feelings and never really turn them off (in this case the eww), the logical approach is taking the feelings into account instead of trying to talk yourself into not caring about her n-count with all the (reasonable) points people make about n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:46 AM
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No problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:41 AM
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More logical doesn't mean "devoid of feelings". Btw, I don't buy into the "men are logical" anyway. It's a hollow phrase that can be filled with meaning or bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:29 AM
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Maybe you could do it as some kind of follow-up to the five star post "yes alphas fuck a lot of women, but also piss many men and women off"? That could be another real reality check. Just like noobs rarely get what being Chad actually is like, they could get more insight into what the average slut is not. Btw, I had been secretely hoping that you'd write a follow up to the above mentioned post about alpha life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:27 AM
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power sluts That term always cracks me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:58 AM
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Lol, I would certainly never question your authority on this. I just don't like it when guys who never even met an uber-slut spread their gospel. Oh, and you are right, I am mostly thinking of "normal" social circles. Just like with AWALT...some stuff doesn't even register as AWALT to me. Instead I just file it away under "low-life". It would be too cheap to prove AWALT with the adventures of some hoe nobody wants anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:56 AM
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It is. I agree. It's rp 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:21 AM
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Yeah, it was a bunch of 16-20-year-olds who were mostly drunk all the time, with all the excellent decisionmaking that one would expect from this cohort. Wow, I really didn't know. It's great to have a history buff around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:12 AM
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Ah yes, every man is pining for the unashamed sluts. Haha, yeah. I imagine a first date: She: "I have slept with 30 guys." He: "Wtf?!" She: "But I am unashamed." He: with a sigh of relief "Ah, I see. That's great." EDIT: Damn, this is fun. Need to add other stuff from the list in OP. She: "Well, I have a high n-count, but I am a real chooser. Do not think I have low standards. I have only slept with lawyers, doctors, professors, CEOs, band leaders, oh, and some male models. Not with regular guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:09 AM
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I think I know where you are coming from: Many high n-count men are emotionally unstable and have issues and whatever, but in a sexually attractive way. Incels are also emotionally unstable, but in a very sexually unattractive way. Like angry vs. whiny, overly-competitive vs. resignated, too-high-risk-taking vs. overly-careful, narcissistic vs low self-esteem and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:32 AM
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Exactly, attraction doesn't have to be logical... ...and it's completely okay if attraction is "hypocritical".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:50 AM
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So the whole "they had personal mentors and were carefully raised from a young age to be wise and sophisticated at age 14" is more of a movie trope than what actually happened? I always imagined it like in the Game of Thrones series, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:40 AM
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Yet I have male friends depositing their DNA all Willy Nilly with casual partners and praying the chick will clean up the mess. Wait! Weren't you the one who was surprised when I said (a long time ago) that a lot of casual sex is unprotected (from my anecdotal experience)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:36 AM
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I agree, but the mythological uber-slut seems to be an idea pushed mostly by the inexperienced incel guys and jawsus-fans. I don't get it. The everyday slut should be enemy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:30 AM
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TRP has boggled my mind for years over its inability to see the difference I see the difference, but it's completely irrelevant to me. It's a visceral reaction to a high n-count. In short: "Ew!" Guys then try to rationalise it and come up with reasons why a high n-count is bad. Some reasons make sense, some don't, but ultimately they could spare themselves the trouble and just say ew instead of listing points why a high n-count is bad. Oh, and trying to get rid of the ew feeling by explaining wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:18 AM
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Oh dear, I have to resist to write a novel-length answer because this is really inspiring. The most interesting red pill topics to me are "is this gender-specific?" and "how could relationships be improved just by men and women understanding each other better?". And this discussion has both. Because it never occured to me before until you mentioned the "have their shit together" that all of the most miserable women I know, they don't have their shit together, while the opposite is true for men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 12:02 AM
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You just act like a grown-up because not acting like a grown-up makes your life suck, right? Stop looking for people to reward you for having your shit together, because having your shit together is its own reward. You do it for yourself, not others. It's interesting. What you say sounds reasonable, but I don't agree. Not acting like a grown-up doesn't necessarily make your life suck in my opinion. It can make life far more fun. And this is more true for men than for women in my opinion. The mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 10:20 PM
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The fix will come by itself because the current system is not sustainable. [...] Finland for example, is in dire straits at the moment and yet nobody other than those highly interested in the topic realise this. I agree. I don't understand why most people don't see it. Almost nobody I know really understands how dire things are in the "rich" EU countries and how quickly the decline will come. One of the reasons is that most people already have jobs and an apartment. Only when somebody has to loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 10:05 PM
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I can laugh about many things other people don't find funny, but this is seriously unfunny. Couldn't watch it completely because it's so boring and unfun. Even Amy Schumer could do a better pill parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:32 PM
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It was! Feminists who debated us said that we only know tumblr feminism and suggested reading the book, so I read it. I was confused because it isn't much different from tumblr feminism. Even worse imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 07:52 PM
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Yeah, just saw it, too. It's a shame. Take care, yo radical, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:55 PM
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Just read a funny headline which made me laugh out loud. Translated into English: "Experts expect large groups of men on new year's eve in Cologne (2018)." No shit, men and women crowd the streets on new year's eve. "Groups of men", lol. In what world does a headline like this even make sense and is worth mentioning in the first place? Well, it does seem to make sense in Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:33 PM
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hit the gym is common advice No, it's not common advice. Get fit or be active is common advice. Lift heavy is not common advice. People still make fun of red pill's emphasis on lifting weights. learn to say no is part of being confident "Be confident" is often used without explanation. I agree that saying no should be mentioned when you tell somebody to be confident, but people actually saying it is not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:23 PM
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It's more than cool, though, in terms of his sex appeal. Have you seen Pulp Fiction? That was the height of it, I think. Also to do with the character, the way he deals with his gf etc. Yes, I have seen Pulp Fiction, but that was long ago and I can't remember much. Just watch soms youtube clips to refresh my memory. The dialogues between him and his gf are hilarious. I laughed out loud watching some of scenes. "...yes", "Are you sure?", "...no", "Fuck!" thrashes room, pauses, "well, it's not you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:07 PM
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Omg, the red pill in his eye!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 05:40 PM
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I agree that using provocative language may not be the best strategy, but if the alternative is no one paying attention at all, it might still be the best option. I have been active over at /mensrights for about a year (shame, shame, shame) and while the clickbaity, satirical and outrageous headlines by Paul Elam and the likes certainly got a lot of attention and brought a lot of visitors to the sub, it became increasingly tiresome to always have to explain the actual meaning behind the clickbai…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 05:27 PM
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So, women DO communicate like that. And I disagree with it as much as I disagree with men communicating like that. It works out. You condemn certain communication styles independent of gender. I don't condemn communication styles irregardless of gender. Different opinions, but no hypocrisy on either part. My guy does not communicate like trp. He'd read quite a bit of the stuff there and says that men do not talk like that. Oh, I agree. I know. That's why I carefully said, it's ONE kind of male c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 05:12 PM
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Haha, no, of course I am not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 05:07 PM
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I think they call it rape culture because it's flashy and catches your attention. If you called it "problematic depictions of women in advertising", that's easy to ignore. It's interesting because you could compare that to "dread game" or other rp terms that are often criticised for the name alone. The difference in my opinion is that feminists and mras should be concerned with branding because they want to engage people in discussion and tackle issues. Using provocative terms like "rape culture…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 05:06 PM
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Probably an ESL problem. Definitely an ESL thing. But not a problem. I love building stuff around terms I like. It got my friends and me in trouble at school because we were all playing the same games and used the same terms and expressions. Everything changed when cutscenes went beyond screen text and you could hear the actors talk. Remember "Rebel Assault"? "Meanwhile, in space over Tatooine." My friends and I: "Wtf? "Meanwhile" has got to be the BEST word in the entire English language." And …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 04:28 PM
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learn to say no (which is common advice), be confident (which is common advice), hit the gym (which is common advice), and to be willing to be uncomfortable at times (less common advice but still not that novel). None of this except "be confident" to a degree is common advice. Common advice is "be a better beta".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:38 PM
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Short answer: I think you don't need to teach men not to rape, because growing up in western culture is enough for normal guys not to become a rapist or killer. This has only become really obvious to me since the refugee crisis here in germany, which is interesting since you mention Kenya in OP. Stranger rape was rare in the past, now you can find a case of stranger rape by one or more men almost every other day in the news (not on TV though) and though it's often not mentioned in the actual new…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:12 PM
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I was president of my high school gaming club, and treasurer of my university gaming club. Then two friends and I decided to make and market our own games. That took up close to 5 years of my life. Wow, that's great. Didn't know. But a few observations. Having attended Gen Con, running a booth, engaging in G&C (obscure reference) and such, most game players are socially awkward and admonishing then to stop wasting time, I made similar experiences with the metal scene when I was playing in a band…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:23 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:53 PM
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but I encouraged him to go for it. Really? You did well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:39 PM
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I say that the only masculinity that attracts women (rather than fostering begrudging tolerance for $$$ and social status) is jaw-dependent. I know that. You say it all the time. I warned you, but you threw down the glove multiple times. My comment about jaw-independent masculinity that some guys don't get (you) was aimed directly at some guy (you) to mock this hypothetical guy (you). I didn't call him by name (Panes), because that would be against the rules. Shots. Fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:37 PM
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what are those guys who improved but got no success doing wrong? No experience. Being inexperienced with women is their biggest sin. Beats all other points by far. Compared to the first time a late-bloomer finally manages to make-out with/sleep with/date a woman, the following will be smooth-sailing. But because they don't understand it and because they have romantic delusions, they refuse to lose their v-card to a practical girl or any girl that doesn't look like she could be "the one" Why? Don…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:29 PM
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Some of the guys are just really young. It's like they expect to be Casanova by 21 and that's just not realistic for most guys. An even bigger problem is that many clueless beta guys don't want to date younger girls. They see it as "cheating" or they think "only losers need to date younger women because they are easily impressed" or they really want a woman/girl their age because they want an "equal" relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:16 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 10:48 PM
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It's interesting that you mention Mel Gibson here as an example of "extremely masculine". Because he wasn't that masculine in his earlier roles. At least not masculine in a way that would make Chad-Jawsus-Worshippers fap to the idea that their imaginary girlfriends suck him off in a parking lot while they are watching. Mad Max 2 Another Mad Max 2 pic He's sportive, but not buff, has dreamy eyes, and in the second picture, his jaw could be criticised. But he still wins, because of coolness, a gun…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 10:23 PM
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would you be happy with the explanation that it's "just women's communication and men aren't supposed to understand it" and "it's just women having a chuckle"? Doubt it, dude. Good point, good question. Answer is: There's definitely (what I would call) aspects of women's communication that I don't like. If I was an MRA, I would probably try to shame women for it or explain why I don't like it and try to pin-point exactly what I don't like. As a red piller, I just accept that women communicate di…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:42 PM
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Trying to find reasons why men are killing their wives and girlfriends is beyond the mental capacity of most rp'ers. See? This is exactly it. The post wasn't "trying to find reasons why men are killing their wives and girlfriends". I mean did you really read it and think the author was seriously trying to explain why men are killing women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:26 PM
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If I had to pick one adjective for (younger) Bruce Willis, I'd say "cool". He was the epitome of coolness. A perfect example of "men want to be like him and women want to sleep with him". Many are either or, but he was both. Btw, what do you think about Jason Statham being "the new Bruce Willis"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:52 PM
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I can only repeat myself. This is one kind of male communication that (most) women don't understand and aren't supposed to understand. No one (of the intended target audience) will read it and think "oh, beating women is good, beating women is inevitable" or anything like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:31 PM
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It's Reddit. I just pissed off a ridiculous amount of men and women just by letting them know I'm a male sub in a happy relationship - It's great that you are in a happy relationship. (y) The thing is that especially us older red pillers have seen the "you are not her man, it's just your turn"-concept play out a lot in real-life. Many people who argue against red pill concepts are young and many of them are in the honeymoon stages of a relationship and are convinced that they themselves are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:06 PM
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I'm no Lewis fan girl but you're out of line. I am a Cross fan boy and I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:08 PM
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Please don't worry too much. It's only reddit. Real-life is the best equalizer there is. For better or worse. 1000 things somebody is exposed to on reddit won't have as much impact on them as 3 things they are exposed to in real-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:44 PM
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Hate? Nope, what you linked to is pure /u/Archwinger genius. It is funny and insightful in a way that you can't understand because it doesn't vibe with you. (And you know that you are not in the target group). Archwinger writes poetry that makes guys chuckle in a way that feels better than laughing out loud. I am not trying to be offensive when I say that this kind of male communication is probably as alien to you as your top-switch-sub-ptsd-femdom-commune-language is to guys like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:20 PM
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You'll wish you could reach through the screen and strangle him. Or give him a hug. Either one. Haha, describes perfectly how I often feel about beta friends and buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:31 PM
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Out of curiosity: are you religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:42 PM
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I got a sick crazy grinning tattoo on my arm to answer that. Great! I remember when you didn't have one yet and only thought about getting one. Now, did you finally manage to beat the Arkham games? If not, shame on you, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:40 PM
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Ah, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:45 PM
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I'm bluepill and I'd like to see you get a no bullshit answer. Well, thank you. (Seriously). Especially since a guilty verdict isn't always proof of guilt, committing a crime isn't always the same as being a horrible person*, and photographing men's laps when there's nobody sitting anywhere near them? The photographer should be arrested. It's just creepy as Hell, and only exists to encourage harassment. I agree, but I was trying to make a different point. I'll try again. I have found that whenev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:15 PM
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The things you are able to read into my comments. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 08:35 PM
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the rest of your comment is nonsense (naturally), What? Why? O.o. Why is it nonsense and why naturally?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:51 PM
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I will come back and say hello to you guys at some point. I insist! : ) Hope things go well for you. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:38 PM
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do you want to be that person that Good point. You can actually apply this to many feminist and mra talking points. Longer prison sentences for men. Do you want to be a criminal? It's not about the actual issues, it's about how men and women are seen/treated differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:28 PM
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Going off the ones I know, I think we mentioned this before, but this is the problem with discussions about prostitution. Most people don't know a single prostitute. Most don't even know guys who visit prostitutes (and talk about it).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:19 PM
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This is breaking my heart, man. Some serious stuff and everything happening at once. I hope everything will work out for you. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 11:14 PM
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Yup. Another thing I find funny in this context...let's assume that in some cases they really haven't seen typical rp scenarios play out in real life, no struggling male friend who makes typical beta guy mistakes, no women who show typical AWALT behavior, then who the hell are they to tell us that we live in a bubble, only meet one type of woman, are biased and so on. They should know at least one guy in real-life who doesn't just think "oh yeah, she doesn't owe me anything, I don't owe her anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 11:11 PM
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I think it's better to use BP's definition of themselves (aka someone who disagrees with redpill ideas and is typically egalitarian) And I will gladly use their definition when the discussion is about reddit blue-pillers. rather than the RP way to define BP. But it's not possible to leave this out of certain discussions. Don't forget, red pill used the term blue pill before there was /tbp. It's an integral part of red pill. We used and use the term to describe how we once were and to describe th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 10:06 PM
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True. I just put that in there to separate bp=anti-red from bp=clueless beta guy. The feminist leaning anti-reds are definitely benevolent sexist. Thinking of your: "men and women are equal except when women are superior."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:44 PM
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Natural BP guys pedestalise women You're using the RP definition of BP (aka beta), Yes, exactly. It's not easy to be clear in this regard because BP can mean a lot of things. Like you say, it can mean "the typical clueless guy rp is thinking of. It can also mean "subbed to /tbp or just "anti-red". Or as you say everyone who is not rp. In this case I was thinking of the first because you were asking about red pillers who say "we used to be bp/feminist". So I answered with the guys in mind that ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:41 PM
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I would never disagree. Natural BP guys pedestalise women and that almost always goes hand in hand with being benevolent sexist. Reddit blue pillers are not, but blue pill guys in the wild are definitely benevolent sexists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 05:07 AM
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The word "shallow" is a way of conveying swiftly to others that someone has a very strong manifestation of a particular bias in perceiving and dealing with the world. Okay, I am not a fan of the word "shallow", but I love how you worded this. Sounds sophisticated af.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:38 AM
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And strawberries are nuts. And so are people who follow a line of reasoning like the one you just presented. Hehe, burn!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:46 AM
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Good catch. The so called internet bubbles like the manosphere for example often represent real opinions better than many would expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:23 AM
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I read "Feminism is for everybody" by bell hooks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 08:31 PM
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Damn...you're looking good!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 03:18 PM
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Great to see you so enthusiastic about your diet, but it sounds as if you are overcomplicating things. And why would you want to use protein powder when you want to lose weight? You could eat stuff instead and feel stuffed. Protein shakes are great...when you want to gain weight and have trouble eating many calories. So you just drink some protein shakes. I can not for the life of me understand why people who want to lose wright drink protein shakes. They give you calories but don't really reduc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:21 PM
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You can't say that here at PPD without getting assaulted with questions about your workout routine. : ) So...what's your routine like?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:15 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:28 AM
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Dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 09:44 PM
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FTL has been a real time-sink for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:53 PM
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Bronze League Heroes. ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 03:08 AM
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Omg! Sounds like you got a stim-pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:31 PM
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It helps a lot, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 05:02 PM
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Red pill didn't invent it, but seeing how much red pill gets criticised for saying "she is not your girl, it's just your turn" shows that this concept is new to some/many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:13 PM
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Maybe she loved you in the beginning, maybe she loved you for 2-3 years, then she fell out of love with you. For the rest, it's not her job to tell you sorry or to give you a proper goodbye. You just perfectly described red pill's "she's not your girl, it's just your turn".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 11:47 PM
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That's interesting. So you're TRP, and a self-described beta? I am a natural beta who has cultivated alpha traits. Do you like being beta? Have you tried to become alpha? I like being beta because it is what comes naturally to me. I have tried to become (more) alpha and succeeded. Seeing and experiencing the before- after was eye-opening for me and is one of the reasons I always say you can't say you are red-pilled until you have been on the receiving end of alphaness at least at some point in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:41 PM
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Sounds like this Anton guy had clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:25 PM
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Oh, I am not saying that he is lying about liking it. There seems to be a discrepancy though because he either can enjoy giving you control (being ridden) or needing to be in control. In any case, doesn't sound like it's something to worry about. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:15 PM
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1: Have you ever been badly heartbroken? Not really. Simply because I lose feelings quickly if a woman is not interested in me. It's like a built in safety mechanism against heartbreaks, one-itis and similar energy-sinks. It's a perk I wish more beta guys had. Makes things a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:11 PM
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All right
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 06:54 PM
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Lol, how does prefering some positions over others make you a fag?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 06:51 PM
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Not necessarily. Being ridden is just very boring and like she said he could have just tried to shoehorn it instead of just saying that he doesn't enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 06:45 PM
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Why do men feel like they need to be in control during sex? Doesn't have to be "feel like they need to be in control". I for example just hate losing control in general. I guess some people just genuinely enjoy handing control over to somebody, others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 06:33 PM
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They banned me, because it's "moralizing". :) No, they didn't ban you because it was moralising. They banned you because your argument was intelectually superior and a very original thought, never heard before and thus impossible to easily counter. They couldn't beat you, so they just banned you because they didn't want to admit defeat. This shows that you hit a weak spot and were 100% spot-on with what you were saying. Isn't that obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 05:51 PM
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Alright. I have a gig on the 30th and am pretty excited. Congrats! Its like finally the phaggets I've been stuck with for many years have gotten their act together after the black metal jailbird fiasco. Sounds good, but from my experience you shouldn't waste your time (musically) with people who can't keep up or don't naturally get along with you. Being in a band with good friends who are on the same page as you musically and have the same work ethos is so much more fun than trying to make it wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 02:49 AM
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Any perspective that you'll get it under control? (not that it'll go away, just dialed down to 20s levels) Actually yes. I have recovered from worse phases and the fact that I don't have any chronic pain at the moment makes everything easier. No pain feels like cheat mode to me, lol. But right now I just feel exhausted and resignated. I have always overcome bad phases of health with two steps: first stitting it out until I had a baseline of energy (not easy because I hate sitting things out, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 02:15 AM
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no matter what TRP tells you, casual sex IS 'a trait shared by the lowest scum of humanity.' Careful, BP sluts are listening. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:34 AM
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Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:00 AM
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I wouldn't decline because it would be great validation and something to brag with. It's too hypothetical...women won't just show up at my doorstep. When I say I am completely uninterested in casual sex, I am thinking of more than just the actual act, but everything that comes with it. I did turn down a threesome once btw, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:21 AM
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You'd be surprised how many red pillers would choose a monoganous relationship with a great loyal woman over spinning plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:07 AM
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You'd be surprised how many red pillers would choose a monoganous relationship with a great loyal woman over spinning plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:07 AM
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Yes. Completely uninterested in casual sex and multiple sex partners. Nice fantasy; but I don't want it in my real-lufe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 01:32 AM
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We call it "branch swinging"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 10:19 PM
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Fingers crossed, be well soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 05:00 PM
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That reminds me of an old strategy game that reminded you that "you haven't saved your game in over an hour" like every five minutes or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:10 PM
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Jean-Baptiste said she was black, and asked if that was O.K. LMAO. To understand her husband’s upbringing, Jean-Baptiste, who was Catholic, began reading the Quran. Ded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:07 PM
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That's not the point. The point is that selfish assholes can actually benefit from common dating advice bullshit. Normal guys don't. Yielding is their default setting. So no need to tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:40 PM
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The second approach--which I call yielding to win--will get you home. This is exactly the kind of shit we former bp guys talk about when we say "we were raised in a way that made us clueless blue pill guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:18 PM
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Thanks, bro. I don't know how much you know about my origin story but I have struggled with health since I was 18. Started from one day to another with headaches, joint pains, unexplainable exhaustion. It was really rough. Always alternated between good and bad phases. Doctors have no idea what's up. I have a cherry sized benign brain tumor that could be the explanation, but since the doctors aren't 100% sure, they don't want to risk an operation. Up until last year I could still live kind of no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:39 PM
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Yeah, but that's only men who clearly aren't as super-cool as OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 04:36 PM
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I like the part where you describe how 30+ dating sucks for most women and can be great for men. Pretty spot-on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 04:23 PM
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What's next? Proof that feminism complained about the patriarchy? Lol, let's see how it looks like in 5 years. It wouldn't surprise me if we needed to remind people that feminists actually believed in the patriarchy just a few years ago. "Stop with that patriarchy strawman!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:06 AM
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I give credit to you because I know that you aren't someone who talks bullshit. With other guys I am sceptical at first. And remember, I am biased because loss of libido and drive hasn't been a good thing for myself. No positive side-effects at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 06:52 PM
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For example, could you tell if the woman in this relationship is truly in love: https://youtu.be/Zb1CgY-_qNg?t=1m20s ? This is a good example where you can immediately see that she isn't attracted to him. Cringe-worthy. I'd say that yeah, I can immediately tell in real-life whether a woman has settled for a guy or if she really wants to be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 06:38 PM
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What about me? I AM there, and I feel great, better than I did with a higher sex drive. Am I in denial? No, I do believe you. I just don't think it would work realistically for most guys. If it works, great, but hoping for it strikes me as dangerous/unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 06:22 PM
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Can confirm 100%. Lots of Crispen-Connor Paschulkes, Kayleigh-Raven Müllers and "I make you blood, I swear on Koran"-guys where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 06:02 PM
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Sounds great, I am happy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 03:03 PM
1

Thanks for the tips. Will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:59 PM
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He hasn't been there. It's an example of "sounds good, but isn't good in reality".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:58 PM
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Well...the numbness can be okay for some time. But when once you have your libido and drive back for whatever reason, you think: "I feel so great, I can't believe how I could live the last months/years." Basically you forget how much better you felt with a higher libido and drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:31 PM
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Every male over 35 should regularly get his levels tested IMO. I really should. I show all of the low-t symptoms except beard growth. My stupid GP doctor doesn't want to talk about it though. I'd have to find a new one, but at this point, looking for a good doctor is too much for me with my low energy level. Can barely leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:29 PM
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How do other guys feel when their sex drive is lower? Terrible. It is much more than "don't need sex", it affects life on many different levels. It's like saying "depression is great because you don't feel anything." Doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 09:52 AM
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From my experience on the 30+ dating market: The red pill "revenge fantasy" is real. Dating becomes frustrating for post-wall women. Lots of disappointement and no fun. Beta men who have always been clueless don't do much better in their 30s. Sometimes it's bizarre to see a clueless 30+ guy and an average 30+ woman. He is like a child compared to her in regards to dating. Many many women chase married men because the options on the single market are unattractive. And I mean many. This is another…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 09:29 AM
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It has its perks. You can say "I am too old for this shit" and people just accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 05:57 PM
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A girl I hooked up with in 2010 looked 23 at 31, a year later she had a baby and really hit the wall. Can confirm. It can be scary sometimes. I sometimes didn't recognise women after less than a year of not seeing them. Some awkward "hi, guitars!", "hi, erm...Rebecca!"-moments. Not because I am bad at remembering names, but because they had changed so much. Or walking around seeing this guy and thinking: "oh he has a new girlfriend." No he doesn't, lol. Tbh that happened with a few women in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 08:59 AM
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It was an ok relationship. Lasted for 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 04:26 AM
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. It's so unfair. My dentist/periodontist is just like "Yeah, sucks to be you, some people just have bad mouth genes." Ugh. That's really unfair. I brush but never floss and see the dentist every three years or so and never have problems. knocks on wood
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 03:45 AM
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If you're unable to love women now, Do you wish that wasn't the case? What's it feel like? I wouldn't say unable to love women, but it has definitely changed. What was the straw that broke the camel's back? A few bad experiences after another, recognising a lot of AWALT stuff at age 26 (long before I found trp). It was too much for me and I went through a short idgaf and asshole phase. Women treated me much better suddenly and wanted me, it was almost bizarre. I hated it so much, finding out tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 12:14 AM
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Again, it's so cool and awesome that you don't need to wash your face or use moisturizer or anything. Yeah, genetics play a big role in many things and naturals shouldn't give advice. For example my brother needs to eat 4000 calories a day to gain weight because he is an ectomorph. Lol if he gave advice to a woman who wants to lose weight "just eat what you want and you'll be skinny that's what I do." Teeth are also a good example. Some people are just lucky and never have problems. Others brush…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 11:47 PM
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Because many fugly guys get laid. Blackpill is that lookism shit, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 03:51 AM
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I really doubt this will happen on a widespread scale. Or even a small one. I am a glass half full. For me it's definitely happening on a small scale. Should add that I am talking about 25+ and mostly 30+.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 09:01 PM
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It's easy. When they start dating again after a breakup, they are excited and think the world is at their feet. They go into a date expecting to be swept off their feet. With high and unrealistic expectations. If he doesn't sweep her off her feet...well, too bad for the guy. After only a few dates like the ones described above, their mindset has changed completely. They only go on dates with guys that aren't out of their league and they don't need a dream date to be happy with the guy...they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 08:49 PM
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Less unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 08:35 PM
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Yeah, it's staggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 08:32 PM
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So many men are already working hard to lower women's expectations. And what makes you think they're being successful I am not the poster you replied to but there does seem to be some change. I hear more and more dating stories from women that completely sucked for them. It's almost as if men have decided to make dating unpleasant for women. For example one left after ten minutes of the first date with an excuse and said he'd be back in 10 minutes. Never came back, lol. Or two stories of women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 08:26 PM
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Hell, when she came clean about who she was to her team, they were basically like "Eh...so, you still comin' to play next Saturday?" Men! We know how to be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 08:18 PM
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And this is why I wouldn't seriously date a Tinderella. I understand the theory behind it, but I have met some really great women through Tinder. Real "faith in womanity restored"- women. Okay, they were 30+, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 12:49 PM
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While I agree that caring collectively as a group might not be a necessary thing, I wonder why that concept seems so strange to many. Many groups of people care collectively. For example whenever you see a protests against racism. Or counter-protests at racist rallies. Thousands of men and women who are not affected by racism themselves care about immigrants and their issues. Collectively. I don't understand why this concept of caring collectively seems to be strange to many of you. Wrong maybe,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 12:14 PM
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If either of those leave you with an impression that Putin is in some way eloquent or smart in the way he manipulates his words, then I just don't know what to say. I am not the poster who said that. It's just that Russian seems to be hard to translate and I never know if I can trust the subtitles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 12:07 PM
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It's male projection. Men collectively care about women and their issues even if it doesn't look like it on reddit. That's why they think they deserve to be collectively cared about, too. That's stupid, of course. Red pill teaches men not to care about women collectively, only individually, if that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 12:01 PM
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Get well soon, dominic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 11:53 AM
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Dude, you are insulting the muslims in my country as fags and say they are not real muslims. Not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 11:48 AM
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Holy... Stalkers are a real problem. It's not a thing hyped up by the media. I know more real-life examples of women who had dangerous stalkers than I want to know. And not only "stalking on facebook". One broke up with her boyfriend because her stalker (believably) threatened to kill him if she didn't, another one had a stalker who regularly broke into her house and stole documents. And threatened her daughter with violence. And that's just some examples I know from real-life. That is the real …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 09:26 PM
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Is it toxic masculinity? Men socially conditioned to impress other men by being promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 08:39 PM
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Funny that you mention it. A female friend once said that she thinks women love/are like cats while men love/are like dogs. She had some pretty red pill views. I agree with her, but separate alphas from betas. And then your picture fits. Beta men love like dogs, but Chad is not one of them, he is the cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 05:09 PM
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Unfortunately, the moment I said the word "femdom", they ceased being actual people in the minds of half the folks reading this comment. Can confirm, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 04:46 PM
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Thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 03:09 PM
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My pill journey actually started at a guitar/musicians forum. It was suddenly invaded by feminists because they found a music video that a user of that forum had made and uploaded sexist. A shitstorm broke lose. I had never seen buzzword throwing feminists in action like that before and I was completely dumbfounded. I started to read online feminist stuff because I wanted to find out more, and thanks to feminist articles bashing the MRM, I found /mensrights. Thank you, feminism. And when feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:40 PM
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I honestly can't remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 01:52 PM
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Stellar write-up. Really good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:08 PM
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Very important, yes. I laugh when I think back about how I tried to cover up my skinny frame with baggy clothes when I was young. Didn't work as planned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 11:06 AM
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Yes, I have seen it. Hitting the gym isn't enough. It's still the best place to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 11:00 AM
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Yes, I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 10:59 AM
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I have been there. You can't really swallow the red pill until you have been at least slightly on the receiving end of alphaness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 10:52 AM
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No, she was terribly afraid of losing friends. She talked a lot to me about it. She wanted to avoid "out of sight, out of mind" happening. And she never wanted to be (home) alone, that's why she hung out with friends a lot. But not only that, she consciously put much effort into holding her circle of friends together. Moving in with her boyfriend eventually was a good thing in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 09:24 AM
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Or weirdly shaped. That's what surprised me the most. There seem to be really weird shapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 08:48 AM
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True. Skinny works for some guys with a certain physique. But most guys don't look good when they are really skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 08:44 AM
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People who have never seen a Chad moment in real-life, (preferably with a woman they know and then see how she acts completely out of character around him) should stop talking about Chad. And stop thinking about Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 06:44 AM
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well, you need to be either a Putin zealot or someone who doesn't speak a word of Russian and can't understand what the guy says when he's on screen. Whenever I watch Putin stuff, I wonder if the subtitles are any good. And whenever somebody translates what he says live and I watch the same thing later with subtitles where the translator had time to work, it's almost as if you watch a different speech or interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 06:14 AM
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While I can't cyv, because I agree, I'll add another perspective. Yes, there are many unattractive guys who don't even lift and still have success with women. But most of them are naturals, were never blue pilled and most of them have always been successful with women. Most men who seek rp advice aren't naturals and they lack the natural's formative years where he got experience thanks to his attitude, people skills, idgaf mentality and so on. Not online nor real-life advice could help them to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 05:00 AM
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I'm saying don't prioritize it over social skills, as I see some people do on TRP. This is important, don't become the lonely bodybuilder. "Hit the gym" will still always be my first advice, because it's an easy and simple way to start out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 03:49 AM
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Can't disagree. I have seen too many fugly guys clean up with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 03:45 AM
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I don't know you, so obviously I can't say much other than I'd recommend finding a happy medium. Most people can appreciate it. For example the girl I mentioned. She honestly wanted people around her to feel good. That was great, but she overdid it to a point that it was exhausting to her. She "let her guard down" so to speak after a while with people she trusted. The reaction of them (us) wasn't "wtf? She has always put on a facade and now she is showing her true colors." No, we appreciated tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 03:44 AM
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One piece of evidence to the contrary is that in couples with mismatched looks, uglier women with attractive men report less relationship satisfaction than more attractive women with uglier men. For men it was the opposite. Interesting point. Well, I don't believe in surveys and studies (not even when they support red-pill views), so I don't have much to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:45 AM
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I try to make them feel special and important and manly. I figure out what they are proud of and then compliment, admire, and appreciate them for this. It's not just an act I actually train myself to change so that I actually become the woman they want rather than the woman I am. This is impressive. You don't often meet women like that. One of my female friends was like this and people lit up light christmas-trees around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:32 AM
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I am dying, this is too good. We should explain all of our thoughts with dialogue like this one here on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:28 AM
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Priceless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:25 AM
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Lol, great!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:18 AM
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I grew up in the 80s, too. Everybody grew up with the HIV scare. It didn't enter my mind that things had been very different in generations past until I talked with a lot of slightly older guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:16 AM
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Even online where everything is anonymous women don't talk about dicks that much. Good point. Well, I'd throw in that women like to talk about stuff unanonymously in real-life more, while men love to go crazy telling things on the internet. I also want to point out that, when I say "men", I am thinking of average normal beta guys, because they make up the majority of men, while others might be thinking of steteotypically manly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 01:20 AM
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Commonly? As frequently as men talk about women's bodies to other men? Anecdotally from personal experience knowing that it's different for others, not generalising for others here: Much more than men. And especially in more detail. Men might talk about celebrities or porn star's bodies, yes. But not about the women they met in real-life. Other than nice boobs or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 01:08 AM
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I bet I could take him in a fight! Lol! NEVER underestimate old guys ability to fight. Never ever. "Dirty old men" applies to so many men of the last generations when it comes to fighting. I have trained Jiu-Jitsu and can hold myself in a fight but I would never fight against my dad if he attacked me (assuming he was mind-controlled by aliens...or russians, omg), I would definitely run. Serious tipp for youngsters: Never underestimate old men when it's about winning a fight. Even if they don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:46 AM
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Do women really talk about dicks? Oh, yes, assuming I don't have hearing problems, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:39 AM
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The beauty of anecdotal evidence. Yeah, that's always a "problem" here at PPD. Everybody has their own anecdotes. But I don't see it as a problem, I find it interesting to exchange anecdotes. However, for my personal life, the stuff that happens around me is more relevant for me because I have to understand my world to make the best out of it. I never implied that it's all men but you ask pretty much any woman and I'm going to bet that most have had at least one experience of a guy not caring en…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:38 AM
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How I hear men talk about sex.... Lol, no, they don't. That's not how most men talk about sex. Oh, okay, it might be how men write about sex on reddit. I hear women talk about sex (for contrast) .... Not enough details in there. Not a single mention of the guy's dick and how it looked. You'd need much more words to give a realistic example of how women actually talk about stuff like that. It's an unrealistic depiction of how women talk about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 11:10 PM
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It's important for making a women ready for sex. Of course. I'd never say otherwise. But! Many men overestimate how long/much it takes if there is mutual attraction. I mean, quickies are a thing, aren't they? Which a lot of men forget about and think that we're ready to go as fast at porn makes it seem. You say "a lot of men forget". I read that a lot, but it just doesn't seem to be a thing in real-life. It actually blows my mind that RP types genuinely think all women are into that as long as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 11:07 PM
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Good points. And it sounds as if things could work out with the woman you mentioned?!?! I am excited! I hope that it works out for you. (For you two)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 10:49 PM
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So basically the fact that women orgasm more from oral means that men think being good at oral is bad? And should concentrate more on PiV even if the woman doesn't enjoy it as much because ??? Not orgasming from PiV doesn't mean that they don't enjoy it. That's what I want to say. Women still enjoy sex even when they don't orgasm through PiV and this is something men don't seem to understand. Look, I had many female friends who confided in me with relationship problems. None of them ever complai…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 09:56 PM
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most women have difficulty reaching vaginal orgasms) compared to oral (which women actually orgasm from) This is exactly why many men wrongly think that oral is more important than sex. Because many women don't orgams through PiV but from oral. It is counter-intuitive. Again: I don't have these ideas from porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 09:37 PM
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But, Wub, you have lots of experience with dating and you often write posts and comments where you say that women have high standards in the looks department. That men's attractiveness matters very much. I can't see how you disagree here, but seem to agree with this in your other posts and comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 09:33 PM
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porn alters the way men see sex and what women want in regards to sex Nope. Having had LTRs and talking with women and friends is what altered the way I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 09:06 PM
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This is PPD. The thought that OP could mean "care about their own looks" didn't even enter my mind, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:49 PM
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According to you, yes it was. I am thinking of the hardcore/metal show you linked to once and you said the guys in the audience all had sex. Sunkin and I couldn't believe it, because guys like the ones in that video wouldn't get laid today. Maybe a few of them, but the majority looked like hardcore incels to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:47 PM
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Women. But they need to compromise because a lot of other stuff matters to them, too. Stuff that doesn't matter to men like self-confidence and status. Now you could say "well, that means they care about looks less", because men can make up for a lack of looks with other things, but I don't agree. Having to compromise somewhere doesn't mean that you care less about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:39 PM
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Yes, of course. But many men still underestimate how the actual act is more important. Especially when the girl orgasms through oral.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:13 PM
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Lol, no. I don't think women find it sexy. if you do not, WHY do you think it is that women dont find it sexy, Because it's ugly and childish. since its obviously SUPPOSED to be sexy and who does find it sexy? what is your explanation for this? Some men think sending dick picks was a good idea. They are the target group for this product, I guess. Projection again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:11 PM
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Based on my conversations with people who were teenagers in the 70's and 80's yes it probably was easier for the average man to have sex. [...] I grew up as a straight White male from a nice area thinking that I was at risk of catching HIV. This is something that is often overlooked, but seems to be true. People had more casual sex before the AIDS scare. Doesn't matter that condoms exist. Knowing that sex can be dangerous, even fatal changed the attitude towards sex of whole generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:39 PM
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Yes, your are right, but many guys don't get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:34 PM
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Canada and Europe are "Western." Soccerstar's point, I think, is that not all SMP's are as restrictive as the US. Yeah, but it's not true. They are restrictive, too, but they might not seem as restrictive to somebody who travels there because he has foreigner-bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:32 PM
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Ew indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:25 PM
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And how can you conclude that a girl is "sweet-looking" when she's naked on a porn website? I think he is saying that guys often see a sweet-looking girl in real-life and from her appearance think "this is a good girl, she is not a slut, she wouldn't have casual sex" and so on, just because she looks innocent. Seeing girls like this in porn teaches you that looks are deceiving when you see innocent looking girls having sex for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:18 PM
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I've found women who were sexually attracted to me wanted to be fucked like women in porn (but not anal or money shots). They want to be fucked vigorously, dominantly and with a few position changes. It's true. I find it funny how men pride themselves in their foreplay and oral skills. What really matters is actual sex, vigorously and dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:08 PM
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Work sucks. Working could be a lot of fun, but there's always something that sucks. A stupid boss, unrealistic deadlines, backstabbing colleagues. You name it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:11 AM
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Point 2 still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:03 AM
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ratings like that aren't objective, so that's probably why it doesn't make sense. but, guys can be mad about it anyway; It's not only about being mad. It's one explanation why dating sucks for many men and women and why there are a lot of unhappy marriages. If everybody was a bit more realistic things would be much brighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 02:40 AM
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I CONSTANTLY see that women are told that their standards are too high and that they should settle before they hit the wall. Why do you complain when they actually heed this advice? This is very easy to answer. (I am using a 10 scale here for brevity. I know that people find it ridiculous, but it's easier to illustrate things). Their standards are too high, yes. But lowering them doesn't mean lowering them into oblivion. Just lowering them enough to be realistic. For example instead of chasing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 02:14 AM
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become adopted to scientific jargon (i.e. "soup" to refer to a solution containing cells, and "broth" to refer to solution used to feed cells) Lol, I thought that was a horror/science fiction movie thing. Didn't know they actually call it soup and broth. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 06:44 PM
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I'm saying TRP underestimates the percentage of women who will ultimately feel bleh. The guys who preach the 80/20 rule and AFBB underestimate it? I'd say it's the opposite. Blue pilled guys underestimate the percentage of women who will ultimately feel bleh. You make it sound easy. Ok, that's something I don't want. Finding a partner that is both attractive enough and checks other boxes isn't easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 06:42 PM
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Yes, but it depends on the kind of settling and standards. The scenario I often see and what I am actually complaining about is: A woman who is objectively a 6/10 (not only looks, but everything) marries guy who is objectively a 6.5/10 guy. And the guy feels like he made a great catch, but the woman feels like she has settled. That is the real problem. This scenario is what causes frustration and confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 06:36 AM
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so that someday I could look my wife in the face and tell her that I waited for her. Common blue pill delusion. First you think that a woman would appreciate this. Then you think that she doesn't care. And eventually you'll understand that she will most likely be turned off by that fact. Awfully beta maybe, but whatever. Yup, typical beta romantic delusion. I have been there. I can attract women nowadays, just not the ones I want. Yes, that's a problem. The impression I get is that you'd have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 06:30 AM
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I'm saying a woman who isn't aroused by her match at 18-25 isn't going to feel better about marrying him younger vs 30+. I agree. But is anybody actually endorsing this? I wonder why blue pillers get the impression that rp's advice to women to "lower their standards" means "settle for somebody you don't find attractive when you are young" instead of what we actually want to say "have realistic expectations and don't wait until most of the attractive options are married and the other attractive o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 05:07 AM
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What's the difference between finding your bleh match at 25 vs 33? Not the bleh match. The Mr. Not Perfect match who isn't bleh. Higher probability to find a non-bleh guy at 25. But if you want to say that many women are wired in a way that they find an above average attractive good, but not Mr. Perfect guy bleh, then I'll agree with you, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 03:25 AM
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These women are essentially saying they stopped searching for Mr. Perfect which is what TRP seems to want women to do. Yeah, but there is a difference between Mr. Not-Perfect and Mr. Just-Adequate. Going for Mr. Not-Perfect is rp advice, yes. Doing it before they are 33 is also a good rp idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 02:54 AM
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This: I hate when people talk about their spouses with such dismissiveness. And this: I think these women are likely ungrateful and ungenerous more so than their husbands being less than awesome. is why I am a red piller. These BB relationships are so common, I see it all the time. Most men just swallow it up but I will never accept it as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 02:45 AM
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when the ESFJ is ready to marry, she will plan it all first and then point at a man and say "you are Husband, let's go" Sounds familiar. Interestingly, I didn't meet many of them in my 20s, but there are many of them on the 30+ dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 01:47 AM
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Obvious rp reaction would be running dread game. I'd probably not even bother. But I'd keep in contact with her just to laugh my ass off when she sees that her options are even more limited and even less attractive than when she settled for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 01:45 AM
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Mo-o-o-o-o-o-orse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 10:53 PM
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and what their basic drives are. They're all shockingly predictable. Yes, and the irony is that whenever I act and live red-pill, I get predictable results. But whenever I revert to my old blue pill acting and mindset, the results are even more predictable. So much for all the blue pill talk about rp self-fulfilling prophecies. There are literally none. Being blue-pilled is the actual magnet that brings bad stuff into your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 10:52 PM
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Does the fox say sings...damn, now I can't get it out of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 07:38 PM
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the descriptions and observations are surprisingly consistent across all demographics and among the experiences of men who don't know each other and, absent internet connection, their paths would never cross To be honest, it still surprises me how consistent it is. How programming can be completely the same like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 07:15 PM
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is "women are people with a lot of differences among each other, and a lot of women accept weakness in a partner" For me personally, just holding a few beliefs like that isn't enough to qualify as a "real" blue pill guy like the ones I know from real-life. For example pedestalising women is a common trait. Most blue pillers here are not pedestalising women like I and other red pillers did back in our blue pill days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 06:48 PM
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Why am I the one worrying about whether or not I continually impress her? Shouldn't that worry be mutual? Yes, it should be mutual. When she knows you have options and finds you attractive it's mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 06:27 AM
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Strawmen are common here, The confusing thing is that some strawmen have become real over time. And there are no blue pilled people here. Anti-red, yes, but literally nobody who is just simply blue pilled delusional like the ones I know from real-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 06:24 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 06:20 AM
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Beautiful. Stuff like this makes guys fall in love over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 06:16 AM
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None.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 06:15 AM
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I didn't see any value in doing it myself when I could afford to outsource it. I Makes sense though. I don't see anything wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 01:57 AM
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Maybe modern culture is more blue, but it's hard to walk away from a viewing of A Streetcar Named Desire, Rebel Without a Cause I saw Rebel Without a Cause in my blue pill days and the dad who always walks on egg-shells around his wife was sort of an eye-opener. Especially the scene where he drops the supper he made for mom and says to his son "I better clean it before she sees it." And he says: "let her see it. What can happen?" And his dad looks so anxious. Very intense scene. Perfect example …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 12:19 AM
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Now that you say it, yes, I can see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 11:09 PM
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I posted a thread here asking if women take rejection better than men in general. Most PPDlers, both red and blue, said that no, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 11:07 PM
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It's interesting that you call this selfish, because it sounds like a healthy preference to me. Many of the things people here call "obvious" for example that being able to set boundaries, stand up for yourself, having preferences and standards and so on are attractive traits, haven't been obvious to me because I was raised to think of these qualities as selfish. Took me a while to understand that they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 11:02 PM
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least red-pill I am very emotional. least blue-pill Completely immune to one-itis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 10:57 PM
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On Sunday I spent the afternoon recovering our dining room chair cushions, because our old ones were kind of dingy and didn't go well with the decor. When I showed them to my fiance he was like, "What did you do that for? They're chairs, who cares?" and didn't seem particularly swayed by my argument of "But look how pretty they are now!!!!" Lol. [...] A few hours later he turned the chairs upside-down to examine my handiwork and actually said, "Hey, you did a good job with these.") Yes, this. Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 09:45 PM
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The girl is trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:50 PM
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"My pointless internet hobby is superior to your pointless internet hobby!" Lol, yeah. I still find the initial question about liking or disliking feminine stuff girlfriends/wifes do that doesn't benefit him interesting, because I have seen it in real-life sometimes, but haven't thought about it much. It might just be some kind of men/women banter most of the time. Harmless teasing with gender-stereotypes that is fun if you don't take it seriously. Like "Men!" and "Women!". In the worst case, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:40 PM
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Maybe most people do have some level or kind of ESP. Yes, good point. I don't believe in supernatural stuff, but I have no doubts that ESP is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:18 PM
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Why did you ask the question over at /trp?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:10 PM
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Reddit again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:08 PM
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I would never have stood in their way of doing something they liked or something good for their career. Yeah, sounds like you. I'd look at incompatibility one level deeper then. Incompatible interests is simple level. Then comes incompatibility like supportive/not supportive and selfish/not selfish. Couples where both are selfish can work out well, because everybody insists on doing what they like, they fight and end up with a happy medium in the relationship. It's counter-intuitive, but selfish…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:07 PM
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Guitars: I respect your knowledge and insight; Thanks. : ) that given, I honestly don't think you understand the experience of the bottom 1 or 2 percent of people, or truly get desexualization You know that I am very careful when I talk about Omegas, because I know I can't fully relate. I would never say something like "they are whining" or "they have to blame themselves" or whatever, because I have never been there myself and pretending to know what it's like would be the height of arrogance. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:59 PM
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Interesting. As I said in another comment, I have only seen lower-class jerks not liking stuff that didn't benefit them. Most of the guys I know brag with the feminine/creative stuff their girlfriends do more than the girlfriends themselves, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:46 PM
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Maybe it's cliché, but my boyfriends didn't like that I was fitter than them (run faster, hike faster, carry heavier loads, etc.) Ah, I see. I was thinking more of things where no conscious or subconscious competition happens. For example when she is very good at drawing and he doesn't draw at all. He doesn't benefit from it, but he might still adore her for it. Carry heavier loads, i.e. being better at stereotypically male stuff yes, to be honest, that would make me feel inadequate. And I am no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:40 PM
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Can't confirm. I have seen it, but mostly with lower-class guys. One of my female friends wanted to learn to play the guitar and he found it "stupid." (Literally called it stupid). Stuff like that. But I don't see it with middle-class guys. Most of them like whatever creative stuff their girlfriends do. Without them benefitting in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:19 PM
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I still think asking women pop culture/trivia type questions can be a good icebreaker though. True. Funny thing was when I told a young female friend about how my friend and I had approached women when we were young with stupid canned openers. And that it still worked. She said: "Doesn't surprise me at all. Of course it worked. You know why, Guitars?" Me: "Why?" She: "You know that women always say they go to clubs to have fun and don't want to be approached?" Me: "Yeah." She: "Its a lie. They a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:13 PM
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Can it be learned, or you do you either have it or you don't? That's a question I often ask myself. I think most people can learn it to a degree that is enough to have good success. But most of them will never get to the level of somebody who is a natural and has experience on top of that. And there seems to be a magical factor x people have that I can't identify. Something about people that makes others love them or hate them. I can often pinpoint it to something, but in some cases it's not pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:08 PM
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I come from Mystery's school of Pick up. Yeah, that's where my friend and I started, too. Some of the things like canned openers are completely hilarious in hindsight, but we had a blast.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 06:38 PM
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I remember that it was a good write-up, that I found the term catchy and that I could identify with it very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 06:26 PM
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Different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:05 AM
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Woa, that was a while ago, can't remember the details, but it was about what you mentioned above, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:33 AM
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For me the ultimate test would probably be going to a nightclub Clubs aren't what they are hyped up to be anyway. Still worth going to one to see what all the hype is about. If you want to try it out once: I'd pick a not very popular club and I'd go there early, (less people) find a seat at one of the bars, have two drinks, watch watch people and then leave. That's what I did with one of my friends. He was kind of afraid of clubs and had never been to one. I told him before that he didn't have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:33 AM
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Exactly! Exactly this. They are good guys, ambitious and hard-working, but they need a social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 02:19 AM
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Some are discouraged from even trying As Whiskers said: it can be brutal. There will be disencouragement and humiliation. I was lucky in that regard. I didn't have the worst starting point, but there was still enough, erm, discouragement and humiliation. I know that others have to go through worse stuff. Everybody has to decide for themselves if it's worth trying to get through it. There will also be encouragement from the right people if you meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 02:15 AM
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Really. If a guy doesn't have an idea where to go and how to have fun on whatever budget, then THIS is the problem he needs to solve first. Long before worrying if his looks doom him forever. Nice guys be like: "But I have so much to offer!". But if he can't offer any kind of weekend fun, he is offering less than the assholishest Chad who ever lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 12:59 AM
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Okay, nice. A vacation like that would be the ultimate test of my own comfort zones, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 12:47 AM
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I agree with your original comment 100% and want to second it. Basically, trial and error, experience and in my opinion 12 months minimum. Trial and error is so important. But many guys: "I will read on the internet until I don't need trial and error anymore." Doomed to fail. this is what I mean that it's brutal. True. I remember feeling totally dumb and defeated at times. It was brutal. Like you will basically have to go out 4-5 nights a week and try to push it socially, Ah okay, it might be po…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 12:09 AM
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Thank you. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:50 PM
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Am i right? Is it that bad for unattractive guys? No it's not. When you optimise your looks and socialise a lot, you can have a great relationship with a beautiful girl. Some ugly guys can have lots of sex with many women, but these guys are naturals most of the time. Learn to be normal and not weird. There is good weird and bad weird. You learn to understand the difference with experience. Work hard and be happy with what little we got a great girlfriend and a great social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:49 PM
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The linked video is one of the things I find hilarious but have no idea why. Shared it with all my friends a while ago, nobody found it funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:07 PM
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I know I would, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:04 PM
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Good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:01 PM
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but even if it's lower, whatever weight works, works :) That's how I have always seen it, so I don't worry about it. I always laugh when I see what I call "the bench press team". A skinny guy wants to press 100kg, so he has two guys "spot" him. Then you see three faces contorted with pain, they do one rep with joined effort and the guy jumps up and yells "I pressed 100kg!". XD
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:35 PM
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Go see a doctor! Like cxj said, it's difficult to diagnose even for trained professionals. I am not self-diagnosed, but I do a lot of research on any medical conditions friends or I have. It always pays-off. Doctors have only so much time to explain everything to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:30 PM
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Beautiful write-up. I agree with what you wrote. What I can understand is that people don't want to talk about it when it is not necessary to talk about it. What I can not understand is that people still don't want to talk about it when it is absolutely necessary. E.g. millions of refugees from completely other cultures come to your country while migrants who have been there for two generations with religious beliefs and their own culture which is completely incompatible with your own culture ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:01 PM
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Thank you. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 04:46 PM
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Out of curiosity: was it a vacation you did to get out of your comfort zone or did you go to have fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 04:44 PM
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finally benching over 100lbs as of today, Wow, that's really impressive. I rarely see women do bench-presses, let alone over 100lbs. I remember when I started working-out, the bar alone without weights was too heavy for me to do 5 clean reps. Congrats! Bench-press is a complete mystery to me anyway. I suck at it so much and plateau at weights other guys do on their first day at the gym, (it's really embarrassingly low) but chest is the only muscle group I frequently got complimented on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 04:42 PM
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*Children are the product of the celebration of love, of romance, of human desire and sexuality. * Lol. As much as I'd like to agree because that' how I see it, too: the numbers of low lifes I have seen who have kids because they fail at birth control or just want to play house is too high. A lower-class buddy once texted me: "Oh man. My girlfriend is pregnant again." With a puking emoji. Do you think having kids is morally good, neutral, or bad(even evil)? Definitely good. People who have kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 04:28 PM
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Asking the relevant questions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:15 AM
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Mental health is so tough to Dx Tell me about it, lol. At least u don't need lithium Hell no, I don't. Knock on wood
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:06 AM
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Yeah. Was guilty of every single one of your bullet points. Which is totally a coincidence and has nothing to do with social programming, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:00 AM
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Thank you, I appreciate it a lot. : ) I am kind of moved that fellow PPDlers actually read it and many understood that I didn't try to malign women, but as always tried to look at what is holding people back, where do misunderstandings in all things dating come from while trying to find out if some things are gender-specific. Your casting anecdote was perfect, because the combination of knowing who you are, having the necessary skills (in your case acting), going for roles you want even if you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 11:54 PM
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Thanks, bro. Doctor says, yes, type 2. Slight depression and slight hypomania. However I think it's neither bipolar nor chronic (yet), because I rarely have hypomania and it never comes out of the blue, but is triggered through extreme sleep deprivation and stress. That's why I try to do everything to avoid it. Don't want it to become chronic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 11:46 PM
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Thank you Quills, means a lot to me. : ) And yeah, much better!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 11:43 PM
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Hehe, I know what you mean. Problem is that I don't benefit much from hypomania. I am enthusiastic and cheerful already in standard mode. Hypomania only makes me more obsessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 11:43 PM
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True. It's feasible for them. I was talking about weak beta man in that comment. They have to be more careful when deciding on which values to cling to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 03:40 AM
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I remember being in a racial studies class when the professor said, straight faced, that the term "colored people" was offensive. Which wasn't that odd until she explained that the proper term was "people of color". I guess the word "of" makes it okay? I thought about this a while ago and I came up with an explanation that might make sense. Not in the context of colored vs people of color, but I wondered why "colored" is politically incorrect while "black" politically correct. I think it works o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:54 AM
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Good example. These guys should actually stick to the value "I will not compromise, she has to check all of the boxes", because it is not only feasible, but also sound legal advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:39 AM
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Not true, depending of the value. Of course it depends on the value, that's why I said some. Give an example. Example: Value: "I will not compromise when I look for a partner. They have to check all the boxes on my list. I rather stay single than settle for less."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:12 AM
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does it not occur to most people the most desirable men are strong men with strong values for themselves and others? It does, but people have different opinions what "strong man" means. Strong values? What values exactly? Many weak beta man have absurdely "strong" values. I make fun of them because they are moralising about everything and are total buzzkills thanks to their "strong values". And some values sound cool, but aren't feasible. besides it pathetic watching men put women on a pedastal …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:59 AM
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True, I shouldn't have expected anything less from you. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:44 AM
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I like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:36 AM
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Thanks for the summary, but the real question is: does she mention cats?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:07 AM
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She could be in a couple tomorrow if she wants. True. She wouldn't have a problem in her age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:05 AM
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These questions are exactly the questions a nice guy would ask himself, when he wants to assure himself that he is a good guy while Chad is an asshole. He would "win" the test and Chad would fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:19 AM
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Thank you, I really appreciate it. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 11:21 PM
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I see where you are coming from, but I insist that it isn't a simple "you are great the way you are." "Fuck yeah! I am great the way I am." "Looks aren't important." "Fuck yeah! Looks aren't important." "You are handsome, son." "Fuck yeah! My mum finds me handsome...that means all girls find me handsome." That's how it might look like when people talk about their experiences online. Or how people imagine how it was. But how it actually looked, all the actual conversations (which aren't one-liner…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 11:18 PM
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And what did I do? Nothing, nada, niente, zilch. And why? Because she had a boyfriend. I was so bluepilled that I was literally incapable of entertaining the idea that she might not be entirely faithful to him. Haha, omg, great anecdote. Funny now, probably sucked back then. Text-book real blue pill. Not the strawman blue pill stuff that always comes up here. As always I have a mirror story from my high school days. : ) Me: Completely clueless kissless blue pill guy. So this girl I didn't find r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 11:00 PM
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as it struck me that this is something that I would not do if I were back home. Well, I don't travel, but I have always thought that this was one of the reasons why people love to travel in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:17 PM
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What I cannot understand or accept is when people on here state that they didn't think looks were important. Even if they say it, I don't think anybody literally means "I thought looks weren't important." Most guys know that looks are important and many beta guys are held back because it affects their self-esteem so much. The problem is that guys think they can make up for a lack of looks with "niceness". Which actually is something many guys can confirm they have been told. While the truth is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:11 PM
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Oh. Well, I hope med school turns out to be a good choice for you. Fingers crossed. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:00 PM
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i cant understand what young people think aging is like. Those people once they hit old age: "We've been lied to."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 09:37 PM
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The girls either got it right away through natural intelligence or complained incessantly about how chemistry "has nothing to do with nursing" (it does). "Has nothing to do with [actual job]" is an absolute classic. What you describe sounds exactly like what I was thinking of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 09:00 PM
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Thank you. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 08:39 PM
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Jk it's not that bad but I do think average is over Yeah, I remember when we talked about how occasionally hitting the gym was enough to be considered having an above average physique, lol. reminiscing the good times now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 08:33 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen, I just came out of a hypomanic episode a few days ago and feel much better now. If anybody wondered what would compel me to write a 3000+ words post at PPD...well I wondered, too, and luckily I understood that it meant I was having a hypomanic episode. I rarely have them, so I often don't recognise it when I have one. The good thing is that I know exactly what to do once I notice symptoms. Cut coffee, take sleeping pills to get enough sleep and play video games, even if I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 08:23 PM
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Interesting... In my school back then, most girls actively ask questions to the teachers and practice a lot of practice questions everyday... Yes! And these girls were the ones who got good grades because they understood and accepted that you need to ask questions because math isn't obvious and that you need to practise because memorising is not enough. That's why I spoon-fed them the basics and they got relatively good grades. spoon-fed as in give easy formula to memorize? Erm...how can I best …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 07:51 PM
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I agree that this inherent gumption is an attractive trait in itself that most beta guys simply don't have. It is one of the things that make natural born betas unattractive. I never had a rebellious phase as an adolescent. How fucked up is that? But ultimately it doesn't change much, because even if betas understood this, we'd have less "oh no, we were being lied to"-threads , but more "oh no, I wasn't born with the necessary gumption"- threads. Not sure if that was more entertaining...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 06:59 PM
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Good. Btw: I took your explanation to heart. Maybe you remember, using "s" instead of "z" in words like "realising" and ever since I try to do just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 06:41 PM
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Yeah, I am not one of the guys who thinks that all women ride the cc hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 06:30 PM
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This does not mean all women are gonna put out for a guy they just met. Doesn't have to be "just met" to be casual sex, but okay, just wanted to know your opinion. In my experience, even women who don't want to have casual sex sooner or later have casual sex with somebody for whatever reason. It's almost like an universal law.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 06:01 PM
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One of my friends studies history at college and another friend is very interested in history. So I have a slight idea of how much work it takes to erm...get good at it. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:54 PM
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Fair then yes. I don't think it's correct to say all women like casual sex. Out of curiosity: Would you think it's correct to say: "While not all women like casual sex, most women will have casual sex sooner or later"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:50 PM
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As a former blue pill guy who was raised with ridiculous beliefs and who was emasculated, I agree with you, but there are two things that I think people sometimes don't take into account: Listening to the messages you have received and building your life around them doesn't mean that you end up as a lazy slob who thinks he doesn't need to invest energy into being attractive. Many guys I know have worked very hard to become the perfect BB. I know that doesn't negate your view, I am just saying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:42 PM
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Oops, sorry, I should have mentioned that I was talking about high-school level.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:12 PM
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So basically boys use the "I actually can do it but I don't want to" excuse? XDDD Hehe, I think that they were actually lazy and just honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:52 PM
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And yes, I still am embarrassed. Then it's a good idea to just stop here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:51 PM
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Yes, exactly. It's as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:49 PM
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I have also helped a lot of girls and boys in high school with math and later tutored math in college, and from what I've seen, there's no freaking difference between struggling boys and girls lol. The difference I have seen is that boys who struggled were more likely to say "well, I am just lazy" while the girls were more likely to say something like "it's so unfair". I didn't have to study or to work extra hard, I just figured out stuff that others couldn't figure out on their own. It comes na…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:37 PM
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It's what came up when I googled around. Yeah, no worries, I am not criticising these statistics in particular, I generally don't like to believe in studies. Not even when they confirm red pill views. However looking through this thread it does seem like there are more overweight men, and more obese women. Overweight men are harder to spot vs obese women. This is the impression that I get, yes. Another poster here used the term "out of shape". And thanks to testosterone, more muscle mass and pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:31 PM
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I know a lot of you will say this doesn't exist, but some girls grow up being told math and computers are for boys, some girls with an interest in math and computers aren't taken seriously. I wouldn't say that it doesn't exist, but I haven't seen it. I have helped a lot of girls in high school with math and later kids of friends and from what I have seen, the reason why they struggle with maths but excel in many other areas in school is that you need a completely different approach. Languages an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:23 PM
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This mostly has to do with higher TDEE. Don't forget testosterone. Also obesity statistics don't match what you say about seeing more overweight/obese men vs women. There are more men 70% vs 58% women that are overweight/ obese. I don't believe these statistics, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:17 PM
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Right? Expanding one's comfort zones is really important, but many guys have made bad experiences there and suffered through a lot of negative feedback loops. It's not as if they haven't tried, it just didn't work out. Doing it with a friend also more fun than to lecture them. For both involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 03:35 PM
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I wonder how fucked up that is. It just means you haven't reached Nirvana yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 03:30 PM
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Romance isn't a delusional it's an attempt at creating meaning and purpose. Well said. Works for me. I have always thought that many of the things people would call romantic delusions are actually good approaches to LTRs if both men and women involved share these romantic ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 03:28 PM
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Doesn't it make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 03:18 PM
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True. In my experience, overweight guys or terminally-ill looking skinny guys even get extra respect from the guys in the gym because they are starting out from a difficult place and made a decision to turn their life around. Gym culture has changed a bit and it's not like this anymore, but in general, men still respect them more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 03:18 PM
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This quote is one of the antidotes guys must take when they want to get out of the anger phase. The problem is that stupidity can be really annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 03:10 PM
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Lol. It sucks so much as an ESL when you try to get rid of your accent. I always try to figure out what native English speakers do differently, but whenever I try to sound more like a native speaker, it only sounds as if I was trying to put on a "fake British accent" or a "fake American accent".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 02:56 PM
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Good point. I don't do drugs (though I have tried it occasionally) so I can't speak from personal experience there, but I can confirm that drinking helps a lot if you want to learn how to just have fun. At least you will experience how it actually feels not to be goal-oriented / overly concerned with stuff and most importantly, live in the moment for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 02:32 PM
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Do you think that reading RP blogs would help them? Trp could help them, but they would be hesitant to accept sexist stuff and they don't want to get rid of their "women are wonderful"-mindset. And first and foremost, they want to keep their romantic delusions. With that said, they have changed their mind slightly now that they are older and have seen a lot the stuff I have talked about (I did talk to them about red pill) play out in real-life. Ultimately, they (in the 30+ crowd) are working the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 02:12 PM
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I get it's like wishing to find a guy who won't pressure you into sex but who won't have trouble maintaining an erection once you do have sex. It sounds funny, but as somebody who likes courtship and taking it slow, this has been a problem for me. And I do need emotional intimacy to get it up. Moving too fast was never a problem because women expect men to want to have sex soon. But I did have problems with taking it slow because they thought there was something wrong with me or something wrong …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:40 PM
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Do the incels you know irl call themselves that and subscribe to incel blogs/subs? Oh, no, not at all. None of them even know the term incel and none of them read red pill stuff. And none of them is a stereotypical male neckbeard with hygiene issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:29 PM
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That said, to also be fair, in most of my past relationships we have at the very least done some level of sexual activity on the first "date" e.g. oral. Yes, that's what we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:48 PM
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Well, I have known and know (in real-life) a lot of incels and even more beta guys who aren't incels per se but are struggling ridiculously with dating to the point where they have almost the same frustration as incels. That's why "how can incels be successful" has always interested me deeply. But unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:47 PM
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But you are not talking only about fat men who are complaining. Skinny guys are complaining, too. There is the unfair biological advantage that men can eat more calories than women before they gain weight. When I see a man with a small belly, I know that if he was a woman and ate the same amount of calories he would probably be really overweight. But people don't think like that. They just see a slightly overweight man and a really overweight woman. Oh, and studies and personal experiences diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:39 PM
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We're talking about adults who have never had relationships and/or sex despite trying their best (according to them) With this mindset you are already far ahead of 90% of the people who want to "help" them. Because in their case: "help" = lecture them condescendingly and make fun of them afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:29 PM
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#1 in particular is a belief usually only held by incels. Nope, that's something a red piller would say. If she only wants to have sex with you in a relationship, we'd say that she isn't attracted to you enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:24 PM
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PPD logic: a woman is only attracted to a man if she's having casual sex with him I don't want to date a woman who is of poor character This is actually accepted as a real contradiction by many people, red pillers included. And something that isn't easy for women. Finding the balance between putting out too soon and putting out too late. Kind of an unfortunate lose-lose situation that women have to navigate. Similar to how men have to find a good balance between alpha and beta in LTRs (using rp …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:19 PM
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Or, they've always felt this way and you're making just assuming. I have been very actice over at /mensrights and /femradebates and from my own experience talking with feminists, things have changed massively. Nothing (what I have seen) indicates that they have always felt this way. Ahh yes, youtube, the place of intellectual debate and discussion on feminism of all things. I am not saying that youtube is the place of intellect debate and discussion. But you can find videos of intellect debate a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:10 PM
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SATC has changed how women approach dating and lifestyle. Laugh about it all you want, but I can remember the pre-SATC days and compare them to the post-SATC days. Granted, the difference might not be as big in the US as it was here. But for me it's so obvious that denying it sounds like "haha, you really think there weren't as many overweight people in the 80s as there are now" to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 11:56 AM
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I think it's not possible (online) if you don't know multiple incels in real-life (and see common denominators and individual stuff). haven't been in a similar place as them. Not necessarily completely incel, but really struggling with all things dating. And even then there is only a slight chance that you can help in any meaningful way. If you are talking about real-life friends, only you know what they are struggling with. The key is not telling them what to do, but doing stuff with them. Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 11:43 AM
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Yeah, stuff like this is sad. And it's not even malicious from either side. It's just unspoken expectations / covert contracts without any evil will. Happens to intelligent people, too. It doesn't mean that they are dumb or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:52 AM
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Fucking feminists, when will they ever talk about men's issues!? It's easy. They have lost. Nobody can take feminism seriously anymore after all of their claims have been debunked in every single comment section of every feminist article in mainstream media. Hundreds of funny "feminist fails"-video on youtube and not a single feminist win, even if you try to find one, there is none. You'll only find arguments where feminists get owned in discussions hands-down by anti-feminists. They laughed abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:36 AM
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People seem to forget that not only young boys grow up with internet porn which explains their seemingly odd view of the hookup scene. Girls grow up with internet porn, too. And this means, while many reddit-enlightened clueless guys completely and ridiculously overestimate Chad's life and the promiscuity of women...pornlike scenes actually do happen in real-life. Down to the cheesy or completely absent dialogue. SATC did the groundwork and porn builds up on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:21 AM
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This scene is a perfect example of how men and women see n-count differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:08 AM
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True. The legendary classic gold box games like Pool of Radiance and Curse of the Azure Bonds did penalise women in the strength stat though. I just googled it to see if I remembered correctly. And lo and behold: a forum discussion about character builds and one comment about the -1 strength penalty, quote "why did SSI go along with such a stupid and sexist rule?" Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:31 AM
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It's kind of telling that things have changed so much that you'd have to say "exclusive commited LTR" if you wanted to be accurate now. I wonder if we have to add "exclusive" and "commited" or "monogamous" to "marriage" in the future. Like: "We have a monogamous commited marriage." "Really? Wow, that's so oldschool! And kind of romantic. Adorable!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:18 AM
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Mine was "they actually got that idea here because we're objectifying women so hard with all that lewd advertising they aren't used to at home, the culture shock drove them to do it" I remember that, lol. Best thing was that some channel did an interview (can't find it on youtube unfortunately) where they asked men and women in their homelands in Africa about these men and the interviewed men and women living over there were laughing at the "they didn't really know / culture shock / because dres…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:11 AM
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And the arguments they brought forward were truly glorious - for example one made a statement that - if you read between the lines - basically said that the Western (in this case: German) men were just pissed off about that incident because they thought only they had the right to sexually abuse Western women, and not some swarty foreigners [...] Can confirm. But my favorite argument was "They didn't really intend to sexually harrass women. They were just pickpocketing women and the groping kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 11:48 PM
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If you asked me, then yes to all of the above. But it's just a term. Of course everybody sees it differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 11:17 PM
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People who identify as blue pillers seem to have a realistic picture of hookups, fwb situations and so on. But naturally blue pilled guys who don't read pill stuff are definitely in denial about the amount of women having casual sex. It's one of the most common denominators you'll find in clueless bp beta guys. They really think most women only have sex in commited relationships. I think it explains why they overexaggerate once they learn through trp that most women are actually down for casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 08:44 PM
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I see, thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 08:31 PM
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Part of growing as a person is introspection and understanding how you, as a person, play a role in patterns you keep experiencing. Most healthy, well adjusted humans (including many of the older TRPers, like u/guitarsaregettingold, [...] : )
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 08:26 PM
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The average amount of hookups is 7 Really? I remember people tried to convince us with a study that women only had about 3 sexual partners in their lifetime. And now there's a study that says average amount of hookups is 7? Edit: Soccerstar says CDC tells us 4-5. Seems to change every year or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 08:14 PM
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: (
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 08:05 PM
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Again, the point is most women are open to casual sex, contrary to BP belief. Depends on who you ask. Blue pillers have different opinions about casual sex and different real-life experiences. It also depends on what you say. If you say "women have it so much better because they can easily get casual sex" you will often get an immediate response like: "but most women don't want to have casual sex, they want a relationship" or "casual sex often sucks, no connection, no orgasm, men are bad at sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:38 PM
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I'd watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:13 PM
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You know I think we may just be speaking a different language. Welcome to PPD. It's part of the fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 05:59 PM
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But this is an acutal ad made by a govenrment. Haha, wow, looks like a trailer for a new horror movie, maybe called "Men - they walk among us"... possibly directed by M. Shyamalan.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 03:08 PM
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They agree with sexist/misogynistic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 01:31 PM
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I know your opinion. You don't have to explain yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 12:28 PM
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Those are the defining factors for you, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 11:54 AM
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Aww! : )
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 12:42 AM
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Yeah that sounds bad. Does this happen a lot? Because I seem to be one of the few guys here who thinks that, yes, everything can suddenly fall into place once you are in a relationship. Sometimes it's the only thing that is missing. My first relationship was the biggest "suddenly everything falls into place"-experience I ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 12:40 AM
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Women seem to love talking about red pill stuff in real-life. As long as I am not negative about it or blame women. They often agree with some of the premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 08:46 PM
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I'd say I treat them polite and friendly. I am open about my red pill views in real-life. But I don't talk about hypergamy or AFBB during dates for obvious reasons. I don't think that there is much difference between real-life-me and online-me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 08:40 PM
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This was and is very common. Even 20 years ago a lot of guys thought like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 08:11 PM
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It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 07:57 PM
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If they find someone like-minded, yeah. If.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 07:44 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 07:43 PM
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Romantically deluded boys and men often: think that their first time must be with "someone special" or even "the one". No, not because of religious reasons. want to keep their own n-count low. Casual sex = not romantic. want a woman who has a low n-count, too. They find the idea that both have low n-counts romantic. assume exclusivity too soon. They approach dating like courtship. They only go for one woman at a time. They lose a lot of time and opportunities. think that you have to and can "win…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 06:18 PM
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To me, "exclusive" means either (a) exclusively dating (testing each other out individually, then moving on if a party doesn't think it clicks) It's completely normal for many people not to be exclusive during the beginning of dating and vetting. It's also a good and effective approach. It runs counter to how I'd like courtship to be, and counter to what I'd normally do, but well, things are the way they are. I don't like it but have to admit that it's the best way to find somebody you are compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:25 PM
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Male, because I'd like to be reborn as myself. And life can be good for a man if you know what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:53 PM
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Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:35 PM
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I agree. My mother was a SAHM and it was difficult for her to get a job when she decided to work again. And things got much better for everybody in the family when she found one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:33 PM
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Awwww!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:22 PM
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Yep. Getting drunk with the guys is so much fun that I consider not doing it as a red flag. Not a "he must have real problems or he must be a sociopath"-red flag, but it will sooner or later show in weird behavior or points of views in things that are not alcohol related.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:19 PM
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I can't answer that question because I don't know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:48 AM
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Makes sense. Applies to serious LTRs, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 12:11 AM
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It sucks for both parties. Completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 08:14 PM
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Men: The most important factor: Lack of experience with all things dating. It makes it harder for them to recognise and break out of their self-sabotaging habits. Like: Clinging to all sorts of romantic delusions. Insisting that "xy shouldn't matter because it's superficial/shallow". They have unattractive traits they don't want to get rid off. Not (only) because they don't want to put in the work, but because they really think that if a woman finds him unattractive for these reasons, it means s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:05 PM
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Street fights/ bar fights and armed robbery. If you know the mentality people are brought up with in their respective culture, you can more easily de-escalate situations and avoid a fight in the first place, for example. I want to emphasise "culture" because I don't think that peoples' race plays any part in it. (OP says "stuff like race and sex", so I guess generalising about cultures in the context of street fights qualifies). You can more quickly estimate the likelihood of stuff like: does he…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 01:38 PM
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I I'm not looking for hot now, just somebody that I can be compatible with. I've come to realize that's a lot harder to find than looks. I had always been looking for compatible women most of all, but I eventually started to put more emphasis on looks, because pure physical attraction can often overplay stuff that might otherwise bother you. You could call that superficial, but I just accepted that my subconsciousness colors everything that happens in a relationship depending on how attractive I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 05:39 AM
1

Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:53 AM
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I look for a man who I LIKE (I have to admire him) and who DESERVES me as well (I know what I can bring to the table in a relationship and I want to be with a man who appreciates my effort too). And it makes sense, doesn't it? "Deserve" is a word that is often read with a negative connotation. Sometimes rightfully so, sometimes not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:53 AM
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Perfect analogy with the job hunt and wonderful anecdote/personal experience as an actress. Just the kind of comment I was hoping for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:43 AM
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Regarding my comment... I'd like to say, I don't think all men view relationships as selfish transactions, just some pills :P Don't worry, I know. I mean, imagine if we had to always add a disclaimer whenever we say "men" that we don't mean literally all men. And women have to find a man who's in the intersection of "men I like" and "men who like me", so they won't necessarily go for Chad if they don't think Chad will like them. Exactly! And I find it interesting that while according to blue pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:36 AM
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Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:19 AM
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I just can't see how the biology-based arguments in favour of (unearned) masculine superiority are compatible with a nuanced worldview. Do you have any thoughts on how I can reconcile the two? My answer will probably be disappointing to you, but stuff like this doesn't matter to me at all, because I am not looking at RP as an ideology or a scientifically complete system. It's "just" one of the places where I find opinions, advice, new points of views and inspiration. Just like PPD. Biology-based…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:19 AM
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Yes! Basically feedback loops. They explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:40 AM
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Yes, RP is nuanced enough to help men move away from this black/white thinking. It's kind of the point of RP. But I have the feeling that it can't help men with the weird combination of low self-esteem and mindset of "but I deserve...". Tbh, I don't really care, because while I have sympathy for guys who are struggling with dating, I don't have much sympathy for completely delusional guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:36 AM
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The idea of someone getting into a relationship out of benevolence to the other person rather than the hope of personal gain is so odd. Completely odd! And this explains a lot of odd comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:18 AM
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Wow, your comment is totally oldschool. Ehh... I'm not so much of a selfish douchebag that I don't treat people like objects. If they're genuinely cool and real people, a friendship is way better than treating them like they're nothing because I can't have sex with them. I actually thought that nobody talked about the friendzone like that anymore. It was the common thing to say about friendzones years ago, especially in feminist circles, but by now, most blue pillers agree that unrequited love s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:13 AM
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Erm, okay... I hope that others got something else out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:01 AM
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What are you trying to say? That women have no concept of leagues? And men do? Haha, no! I am trying to say that people, (doesn't matter if they are men or women) who don't think in leagues experience the dating market completely different than people who do. In many of the discussions here, we find comment chains where one of the two eventually only thinks: "wtf? What is he getting at? What did just happen?" And I often think: what happened is that someone who thinks about dating in terms of le…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:57 AM
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Thanks for reading, thanks for commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:46 AM
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You are thinking my experience with men is comparable Do I? It's not. That's what I'm trying to explain. Cool. I am not trying to prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:42 AM
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Very interesting- it must be our different social contexts/experiences, but this thought process seems incredibly self-defeating. It was. Very self-defeating. A limiting belief. TRP addresses this because the community knows that many men were raised with this mindset. Non-red-pill people can give good advice, too, but most of them have never had this mindset and haven't seen it in their social circle. That's why they don't address it and are surprised when they see guys who actually need the ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:39 AM
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One thing that could be different about the anecdotes is the level of intelligence. You talk about fat gross old man. I picture them as not intelligent. Both of the women I was talking about were intelligent. I am mentioning this because dumb women don't really appear on my AWALT radar. When an intelligent woman does something that red pill would call AWALT, I register it as AWALT. When a completely stupid woman does something similar, I don't see it as AWALT. I just think: "Ok, she is dumb." Si…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:25 AM
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Want to know when magic happens? When you are more towards the top, both genders can act more like each other, and become all the more able to get both what they like and what they believe they can get. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why TRP puts so much emphasis on being attractive. It's not only about nice ass, big boobs, big biceps, much status and bragging rights. It is about reaching this place where the magic happens. If there's a sort of woman you want, become what she likes, or let g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:17 AM
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I think I can safely say that once someone is "placed in" the friendzone, that's where they "stay" until what got them in there is forgotten. That is true and that's why most men with experience don't stay in friendzones and move on. The only place where experience comes into play is "avoiding" the friendzone before they're placed in it, and of course, if they have no "experience" in avoiding it, it's likely where they'll end up time and time again. Oh yes! And this is a good example how things …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:04 AM
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I never want sex so little that I'll only hold out for a 10, but I'll still hit on a 10 if she presents herself. I got nothing to lose. Makes sense. And I think that testosterone levels are dropping and some of the incel guys are low-T guys who couldn't get it up for any woman who isn't a 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:55 AM
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The good thing about my wall of text posts is that people can have fun under the auto-mod. : )
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:50 AM
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I believe it's more determined by "experience" than anything. Inexperience explains a lot of what we talk about. I made a post about it once. For example: Men staying in friendzones. A symptom of male entitlement, remnants of courtship culture? No, simple inexperience almost 100% of the time..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:48 AM
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My thought process was: why would I date someone I didn't like/wasn't attracted to? Does that seem alien to you? Good question, because in a way, yes, it felt alien to me back then. Many guys, myself included had the mindset: "A woman who is juuuust good-looking enough that I can find her attractive is the best option, because she will be more likely to fall in love with me than a more attractive woman. If she is more attractive I waste her and my time." Is there a rp protocol for situations lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:39 AM
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No, unfortunately, I didn't. I thought that it would be very awkward if they met. (Knowing them both).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:21 AM
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Done! Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:16 AM
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