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Yes.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 07:24 PM
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An MRA Dad.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 07:14 PM
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Empowerment is whoring for a good price.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 07:13 PM
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But all premised on the assumption that he gets to say who makes the rules. Patriarchy much.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 07:11 PM
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I don't exactly know how to parse this as a Men's Rights issue, but it surely ought to be puzzling to those that accept the conventional portrait of men as just predatory sex monsters that here is one so devastated by unrequited love he chose not to go on living. I was interested to see how it might be twisted in the minds of some in favor of the woman as victim. Sure enough, the top comments all privilege the woman in their sympathy. Here are the first two: that poor woman,she will have to live…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 11:45 PM
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Umm..
/r/MensRights16/08/14 01:27 AM
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Yes we can.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 03:54 AM
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In other news, research reveals nine out of ten popes may be catholic.
/r/MensRights07/08/14 02:40 AM
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Yes. Your opponent is in favour of shooting attractive women. Well spotted. Where would we be without your rich contributions to reddit.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 08:52 AM
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Exactly. That this should even be a question does the line has become hopelessly blurred.
/r/MensRights02/08/14 04:09 AM
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That's because male sexual pleasure is vile unless vindicated by a woman, or he's gay.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:38 PM
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Remind me again why my judgement would have been correct if he had been 35?
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:35 PM
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This poor child was only 17. You are defending a paedophile. You are subhuman scum and should be banned from posting. Think of the damage done to the innocent child by the vile man. Her whole life is ruined. Am I serious? Possibly.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 10:04 PM
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You got propaganda coming out your ass. The most insidious form is the faux balanced partial news propaganda. Where do you get your news from: BBC?
/r/MensRights19/07/14 10:23 PM
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And I would defend to the death your right to do so, unlike fascists.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 10:21 PM
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Well put.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 08:29 PM
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To me it's like school yard bullies picking on the sissies after taking over the government. Sissies must die or fight for our fascist flag waving race nationalist militaristic republic. Fascism = gender rigid authoritarianism = fuck all gays, sissies, Jews and gypsies and send the women back to the kitchen. This is an MRA issue on a billboard in times square in neon and flashing. EDIT: except it's in another country which makes it not our issue, but an issue for Ukrainian men.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 08:27 PM
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Ukraine is now fascist. Did you realise that?
/r/MensRights19/07/14 08:22 PM
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I agree that this is a massive men's rights issue. Men are being forced, on pain of death, to perform their traditional seed role of protecting. EDIT: "seed" = sex
/r/MensRights19/07/14 08:19 PM
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Oh yes. It's offensive, but it's also pretty standard.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 08:11 PM
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Sure. Farrell called it physical intimacy. But don't you think there's a connection? Maybe there's just a biological reality of desire that gives the market power to women, but then we build social constructs on top of that which exaggerate the differences. The constructs are subject to change. For example, Victorian nursery rhymes about sugar and spice reinforce attitudes that can change. Anyway, not having to take the initiative is a privilege, whether biologically based or not.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 08:06 PM
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Au contraire. I've just read a piece on COTWA that indicates male initiation is partly socially constructed. http://www.cotwa.info/2012/06/off-topic-i-went-to-prom-with-sissy.html?m=1 On that last part -- teen boys needed to be pushed, and chided, because one of the themes of these columns was how the boys were letting the girls down. Example,Ann Landers, 1965: a self-proclaimed "bitter" 16-year-old girl starts off with this gem of a sentence: "This letter is for teen-aged boys because they are …
/r/MensRights19/07/14 06:54 PM
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That's true.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 06:52 PM
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Yes. I really think this is just silly.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 06:49 PM
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They won't complain. They's just take it down as "unauthorized". You need to go to the head of the service. But are there any domestic violence services for men in the UK?
/r/MensRights18/07/14 08:22 PM
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Just imagine being able to get "support, advice or information" on dealing with your psychobitch. Then I read, "We work with male perpetrators". Makes me want to be a perpetrator. Might as well.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 08:18 PM
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Thanks.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 08:07 PM
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Yes. I was thinking it's quite something that he got it into Psychology Today, which, if I'm not mistaken, is quite an illustrious journal, not that I'm any kind of expert on Psychology journals.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 07:31 PM
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Thanks for posting. I just love this answer: Marty Nemko: What are your thoughts about the current focus on campus rape? Warren Farrell: The issue first should be addressed before kids get to college. For example, we may need to encourage our daughters to take the initiative when they do want physical intimacy, not just to say when they don’t. Our society strives for equality but few experts are asking women to share the responsibility for taking the initiative in sex, thereby risking rejection.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 01:09 PM
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Not right now. But you should see where they were yesterday.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 11:00 PM
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They are not overwhelmingly represented in government; they represent overwhelmingly. The question of who they represent remains undecided. On one theory, it's the voters, majority women.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:58 PM
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Touché
/r/MensRights17/07/14 11:20 AM
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"-4"?
/r/MensRights17/07/14 11:14 AM
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I'm not so sure. I think they will do anything to shame men, though I agree, the scenario you describe is not good. I have some sympathy. But it may be that in the countries where this is less prevalent feminists are actually more active in legislating.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 11:13 AM
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Take sexual harassment from the workplace and make it a universal condition where every unwanted advance is criminalized and that's the sort of risk we're dealing with. I'd say that's already happened.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 11:11 AM
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Indeed I do agree with women hollaring back. That's a grown up thing to do and that's what they should do, if they want to. No need for her to leave the store, though. He got his comeuppance. Calling it "gender base violence" is grotesque. He didn't even touch her. Get over yourself, princess. I've no idea about this woman. Some women spend countless hours and money glamming themselves up. That's fine, but is that gender base violence? Might just as well be. Men and women are going to exhibit th…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:55 AM
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Thanks. That was fun. The guys were all pretty cool about it. What harm does it really do? If only women could be like that. It's given me idea. Thinking of slapping a few asses today. What do you think? Oh, also, she did slap a woman's ass. Just as well she was a woman. How about if I try it in a burqa?
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:47 AM
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Feminists are not your audience.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:38 AM
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This is a very good video, rich in material for future reference. Thanks for posting.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 07:07 PM
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Good question! The answer, of course, is misandry.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 06:53 PM
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..after she reported him for possession of marijuana. Then: When the woman later returned home, she found a watermelon on the counter with a butcher's knife in it, police said. EDIT: Spelling of "marijuana". Sorry.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 06:51 PM
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Very nuanced of you.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:42 PM
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Realize when you're arguing with a feminist that you don't need to convince them or win their approval. I agree with this, but I still don't quite get what your point is?
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:41 PM
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"Women wanted to Have It All: the business suit, the Malibu dream house, the pink oven, the cute daughters, the corvette, the skiing trip, the accessory husband (sold separately)." Worth it for this sentence alone, especially the last four words.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:37 PM
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I didn't mind the slowness of delivery. I minded that the thinking was a hodge-podge of method, madness and impertinence, and that the whole thing was totally irrelevant.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:29 PM
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..and for the clarification.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:14 PM
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Well, that was a total waste of time. Sheesh!
/r/MensRights15/07/14 03:31 PM
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Abso-fucking-lutely fan-fucking-tastic!
/r/MensRights14/07/14 09:07 PM
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'It's not OK.' Just a little note on how 'It's not OK' has become the new 'inappropriate' and general euphemism for "morally wrong," a phrase no-one seems to want to use any more. Jim: I killed your sister. Is that OK? Alice: No. That's not OK. Jim: How about if I kill babies for their taste. Yum, yum. Alice: No. That's not OK. Jim. You lied about your father raping you three times causing him to become an instant and irredeemable social pariah, lose all hope in humanity while he watched justice…
/r/MensRights14/07/14 08:52 PM
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That.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 08:24 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 07:34 PM
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"The leader of the MRM is a woman therefore men have no rights" is an as hominem fallacy. The rest is just shaming tactics.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 07:15 PM
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Moral legislation is not the same as legislating morality.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 07:19 AM
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Lol. Thanks. So I did. Stupid smartphone!
/r/MensRights11/07/14 10:54 PM
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(3) is false. That's a simpler way of putting it. Hence the argument is a fallacy.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 05:06 PM
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Likewise, freeing men from their gender roles will free women from theirs, just as much. Women have not yet been freed from their gender roles. So-called benevolent sexism extends to women access to a privileged gender role. Free men from the constraints of their gender roles just is freeing women from this gender privilege. Not all will see it as freedom, of course. Some may see it as misogyny because so long as women are seen as vulnerable infants, treating them as equals may be construed as m…
/r/MensRights09/07/14 07:29 PM
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This is mad in so many ways I couldn't bear to finish reading it. I got as far as his fifteen year old girlfriend sending him pictures of herself. That's it. When my stomach settles I'll return to it. Thanks for posting.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 06:48 PM
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..but a real man wouldn't let her? As a feminist I find that sexist, misogynist and ultimately patriarchal. That would be my response. Not hard. About as hard as a limp dick, I'd say.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 11:27 AM
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Lighten up.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:28 AM
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Wait.. Is this meant to be serious? I thought it was satire. Hard to tell devoid of context.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:27 AM
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Uh, no. This satirical aphorism gets to the heart of the contradiction in modern feminism. We are misogynists because women are vulnerable infants and we treat them as equals.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:24 AM
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Have you read Warren Farrell?
/r/MensRights07/07/14 04:02 PM
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Yes. This is the standard of phallocentric comment we have come to expect as feminists. Your deployment of logic as a tool to penetrate the opposing ideas and the tired appeal to consistency are typical of the male mind, possessed with inserting objects into others. Rape discourse like this is part of the problem. How can women be safe with this going on? /s
/r/MensRights06/07/14 07:23 PM
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Thanks. It's good to have your perspective as someone from a more traditional middle Eastern culture who has also experienced living in the modern Western world.
/r/MensRights06/07/14 07:08 PM
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It's not just creepy. It's scary. This is one of the things men can't do, rent to a woman and meet her in private alone, for fear of being seen as a creep.
/r/MensRights06/07/14 06:50 PM
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It's terrifying that anyone would be so afraid of us.
/r/MensRights06/07/14 06:02 PM
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I'm surprised joining the military to fight on the front line isn't in there.
/r/MensRights06/07/14 04:13 PM
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Yes. We're all basically in the same boat.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 05:57 PM
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Most Western women shy away from the prospect of having a Chinese boyfriend: they find them too traditional, overly effeminate (it doesn’t help that many carry handbags and adore boybands such as Westlife)... It just keeps getting better. This is a joy.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 12:57 PM
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Well, yes, but also having to open their eyes to the possibility of romance with expat men that under any normal circumstances they wouldn’t go near. This is a classic. Thanks for posting.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 12:53 PM
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You call everyone a troll and "fishing expedition" is a phrase rarely far from your lips. Why not just let each person speak for himself, and speak your own true mind yourself? If they are here to discredit us, we can re-credit ourselves simply by stating our disagreement with them individually. In the end, one can only speak for himself. If you think this sub needs you as its troll policeman, I suggest you are doing more harm than good by shitting on the freedom we enjoy here to speak our minds…
/r/MensRights04/07/14 04:10 PM
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It's interesting how anger is sometimes a good thing, sometimes a bad thing. When men are angry they need anger management, we are told. Other times anger is self-justifying. The people are angry because of injustice, for example.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 11:26 AM
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Not really. Article only available to subscribers I'm afraid.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 10:41 AM
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I would call the style of relationship described in the article "patriarchal" in a strict sense. I can't think of a better single word label for it. My question in whether patriarchal relationships or marriages can exist in isolation by agreement of the twin parties involved while other relationships are egalitarian, again by twin agreement. Alternatively, is it the case that an egalitarian relationship can exist in a culture where patriarchal attitudes prevail towards the norms of marriage. In …
/r/MensRights03/07/14 10:23 AM
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I haven't noticed them, bit if they are here to discredit us, we can re-credit ourselves simply by stating our disagreement with them individually. In the end, one can only speak for himself. Even if they are not here to discredit us, it doesn't follow necessarily that there is common ground. It would merely follow that there is at most an alliance of convenience.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 06:42 PM
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Haha.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 03:59 PM
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Fuck off and stop telling me what this movement is about, you ridiculous old toe-rag.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 03:43 PM
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Again, thanks for posting. Another great read. One thing on a related note. Can individual partnerships choose whether to operate the daddy-little girl option or the adult-adult option, or is it something we all have to decide together as a society? I think the latter, but I can't quite day why.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 03:39 PM
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Well, it's funny that feminists would unself-consciously reify patriarchal gender norms. My smartphone doesn't speak Latin, btw, hence the typos.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 02:50 PM
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Geiger was wrong.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:10 PM
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Spot on. Really we would be better leaving left and right out of the equation. We are on a different dimension.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:30 AM
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Yes. Exactly. The right wants a return to tradition. The left wants the completion of the project for equality.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:28 AM
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Yes. This is the point to keep coming back to. Quite funny. It's a kind of reduction as absurdum I guess.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:25 AM
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Yes. This is the point to keep coming back to. Quite funny. It's a kind of reduction as absurdum I guess.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:25 AM
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Very good article. Thought provoking. I would take issue with some details. But in general I agreed with it. I think he was a bit sweeping. Not everything he said about women applies to all women absolutely, for example, Allison tieman, but i get that he's painting with a broad brush. Also, a system which forced women to stay in the home would be oppressive and yet would have some of these same outward features of which he complains like women having the soft option and men doing the heavy lifti…
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:21 AM
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Yes. Agreed.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 10:15 PM
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Thank you. That is very clear. I could say more, but I'm tired and have things to do. Well, OK, one thing. On my calculation, pushing more women into the military, should there be a draft, just because women would take up more support positions doesn't mean in absolute terms that more men would be in harms way. It just means fewer men would have to work the support positions. I'm not sure that's a bad thing. But I digress. That'll do me for a while.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 09:48 PM
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Look, I'm very sorry. I know this may seem pedantic, but when I ask a question, I usually do so, and this case is no exception, because I would like to be told the information I'm requesting. You've given me a lot of information and I'm grateful for that. Thank you. But you haven't given me the information I've requested. If we can't make selective service go away, no matter how hard we try, then what: should women be included? A simple "yes" or "no" would suffice.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 08:38 PM
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OK Fair enough. You think it ought to happen, but you don't think it's very likely.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 08:12 PM
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And if we can't make it go away, then what?
/r/MensRights30/06/14 08:10 PM
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It hasn't gone away. We have selective service.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 05:49 PM
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And if we can't make it go away, then what?
/r/MensRights30/06/14 05:48 PM
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So do you think including women is a good thing or not?
/r/MensRights30/06/14 05:43 PM
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If it won't ever happen again you might as well change the rules. What difference will it make?
/r/MensRights30/06/14 05:42 PM
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I know. It's terrible isn't it. I don't agree with that aspect of Islam at all.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:18 PM
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No studies, sorry, but your post makes me think of the Vienna Phil, which hires only men. There is, consequently, a women's philharmonic in Vienna. Guess which one is just about the best orchestra in the world, or at least in the top five. Some time ago i read that men in music are basically motivated to show off for the girls and the urgency of this is what drives them to be better musicians. Seems plausible.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 04:41 PM
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It's an old trope. I think it was discredited recently by some research that found things are actually the other way round but I don't have the link.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 04:35 PM
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You don't think I'm going to read what you write do you? Fact is you're a rape apologist and serial baseless troll-accuser. Now fuck off. Twat. And just to be clear, I did not, as you put it, spend "an entire thread defending a piece of pedo scum". What I said can indeed be seen by all: What purpose does it serve to remove a 94 year old pensioner who uses a zimmer frame from his care home, and put him in prison? The charges should have been dealt with many years ago. It helps no-one to bring the…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:14 PM
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You talk of "rank newbies" and your account is one hour old. Oh dear. And no need to link anything. I know about the MGTOW forum, as should be obvious, of course. You're still missing the point about the sub being not just for you. Family law is fine, but you can be interested in more than that. It's not about being pedantic. It's about being clear and thinking straight. But if you want to call it pedantic, while you're at it I would drop the snark, if I were you. But yes, much pedantry would be…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:13 PM
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I have no interest in re-writing history, pigfuck. You're the sad little man. As for troll, you call everybody a troll the moment they disagree with you. You're at it again today. How pathetic. It's idiot baseless troll-callers like you who should be banned. Why don't you produce evidence and leave others to decide instead of continually calling people trolls. If you knew me, you would know I'm not here to make anybody look bad, but rather I'm here because i'm prepared to stand up to bullying mo…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:01 PM
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It should be obvious. It wasn't. Maybe you should consider that what seems obvious to you isn't necessarily obvious to others. If people ask a question it's because the answer isn't obvious. Telling them that it should be obvious is unnecessary and insulting. All of this should be obvious. Your answer is a picture of dissembling.First you use that old weasel word "many". "By the time many of us come here". How many is many? Is that more than two, a simple majority, most of us? You don't say. I h…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 11:36 AM
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You are a pointless fuckwit. Go and defend a child molester, you piece of sub-human filth.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 11:13 AM
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From Reddit, and just because someone has a new account doesn't mean they're new here. But why would you get a new account just to comment on this? And where do you normally post? Who are you the rest of the time? [A]ll this PUA-originating dime-store sociology musing only overlaps with Men's rights insomuch as it involves people who bear a penis. That may be, but you still haven't addressed my original point. You're offering now another reason why this article is not relevant to men's rights. T…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 11:06 AM
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De Nihilo Nehil. Out of nothing comes nothing. Redditor for one hour. Well, what a surprise. Where did you come from? In any case, you haven't really answered the question as to why, just because some of us are interested in family law, we shouldn't also be interested in the content of the above article. Is it because it's just "pop" culture, whatever you intend by that pejorative label? Is it because we should only be concerned with legal rights for men and not the broader culture?
/r/MensRights29/06/14 10:30 AM
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Indeed. Even from contributors to this sub.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 10:23 AM
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It may be that this article is not relevant to Men's Rights, but I'm not sure how it can be because ..many of us come to the MHRM because we are or were married and have been subject to the horribly gynocentric clusterfuck that is "family law".
/r/MensRights29/06/14 10:04 AM
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I have to say this article resonated with me, and I think the issues discussed do have implications for men's rights.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 09:59 AM
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"Now that we have the language, and kids are taught so speak up, and parents are on the lookout, I think it will be a lot harder to be an active paedophile," says Biddulph. And anyone who even questions this basis for misandrist moral panic will be called sub-human filth and a defender of child molesters.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 09:43 AM
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One thing to look out for is that if feminism helps men too by defeating the patriarchy, then men's rights helps women too by defeating the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 09:31 AM
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It should be obvious then, that providing a robust critique of NuFem (NGO and internet feminism) IS a way of helping men and boys by challenging the dominant, male-blaming paradigm that these groups create and maintain. Exactly!
/r/MensRights29/06/14 01:21 AM
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Well, you won't find me disagreeing with any of that. When I said it was irrelevant, I mean irrelevant to the question "Should women be required to sign up for selective service, now, when they turn 18"? I think the question is clear enough, especially with the addition of the word "now". But if you want to go on and discuss other questions, like the Arab-Israeli problem, the proliferation of nuclear weapons, the democratic deficit, or, hell, even whether there should be any selective service at…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 01:15 AM
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I've no idea what you think you're fixing for me. By the way, just if you're in the mood, have you considered taking your anger-shaming and hate-shaming back to femiville where you got them from? Just an idea.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 01:05 AM
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Nope. Thought not.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:56 AM
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lol fnar, fnar.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:55 AM
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That may not be what you said, but it's what I'm asking you. By the way, what is all this sarcastic shit about hate. Stop stinking up this sub with victim-whoredom.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:52 AM
-1

"Should women be required to sign up for selective service, now, when they turn 18?" was the question. What part of it did you miss? Are you going to answer it, or is that beneath your dignity?
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:47 AM
-4

You're welcome.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:44 AM
1

So they should just allow any group in the parade so long as it has the word "equality" in its title? That's about the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. Doesn't the content of the group's ideas matter at all? Like...what is that?
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:43 AM
-2

It's not divorce versus selective service. It's an analogy. Divorce is like selective service as far as it goes. It's not the same thing. Like all analogies this one only has to go far enough to do the job. It's really dumb of you to miss that. I think that if men have to sign up then so should women. Thank you. That answers the question. The rest is irrelevant. Why didn't you say that in the first place?
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:37 AM
-2

The part where you actually seriously debated it and considered the consequences. Where was that?
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:33 AM
-4

Fuck off.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:31 AM
4

Strange that gay people would protest against Israel. When you consider that Israel is the only middle Eastern country to legalize gay marriage. Maybe they have the decency to care about Palestinian Arabs as well as just themselves. Or maybe they care about something slightly bigger than the law on marriage: the rule of law itself? You just never know.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:25 AM
0

A great answer to a different question.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:15 AM
-2

So should there be a presumption of equal child custody in divorce cases. Comes the evasive reply, "it would be better if there weren't any divorce at all". Way to miss the point much. Keep it simple. Given the way the world is, yes women must register for selective service. You want to change the world. Fine. Do that as well, separately, and another time. Nobody is stopping you. But that wasn't the question.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:15 AM
-2

Another one who evades the question by imagining a world that doesn't exist in which the question would be irrelevant. What is your problem with just saying, "If the world is going to remain as it is, then there is no reason why women should not be obliged to share with men the duty to register for selective service"? Is that too hard for you? Seems pretty black and white to me. It's not nice to see people who aren't really serious sullying the waters in this way.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:11 AM
-2

In other words, your answer to the question is to not answer the question, but to imagine a world that doesn't exist in which the question would be irrelevant. Thanks. Nice having you on board. Now fuck off.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:05 AM
5

Fuck yes. We'll talk about abolishing selective service later. Let's get this one straight first. They want equality. They can have equality. They want to join the army. They can join the fucking army. They want to fight on the front line. The can fight on the front line. They want to evade the burden of selective service because, oh, you know, there shouldn't be any selective service. They can cry me a river. Sign up, man up. Then talk about abolishing it if you want. But have the decency to ge…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 12:02 AM
0

The trouble is, according to the police that let him go, he already is a functioning member of society, evidently. Functioning perfectly well...to punish the whites after decades of racist apartheid.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 05:39 PM
0

Better to supply evidence without using "troll" and let others judge.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 05:36 PM
0

Shocking! But there's more going on here than tape. "Gated community" gives a clue. Also the corrupt police. I never understand what someone who would do this is thinking?
/r/MensRights27/06/14 05:33 PM
1

Thanks. I'll wear it and see how it feels.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 04:21 PM
1

..because she's only half?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 03:22 PM
-1

If you watch the video you will see that she is laughing and smiling throughout the obviously jocular exchange in which she said white, middle class me shouldn't apply for the jobs. I think this contextual detail is at least slightly relevant. She may not have been entirely serious. There is no video of her making the "lost species" comment, though she may well have done, but again I would like to see it.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 03:21 PM
2

Huh? "Whites" is a euphemism for "Jews". Any supporting examples? How do you figure that one out?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 03:09 PM
2

I, for one, welcome the opportunity to co-opt the fedora as a proud symbol of our movement.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 02:56 PM
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Much as I hate these MRA scum, and believe me I want to endanger and provoke them as much as anyone, harassing individuals, following them to their cars or homes, publishing their private information, and intimidating them with vicious, derailing and trivializing tactics to promote our ideology, a terrible thought has struck me today. If we do this, they may reach out to one another about the real concerns they have about their physical safety and the safety of their organizers. They may simply …
/r/MensRights26/06/14 02:51 PM
1

Why?
/r/MensRights24/06/14 07:06 PM
2

Exactly. Privilege, sexism and protection are all constitutive of the same traditional social reality.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 05:24 PM
3

Do you notice how the call to treat them as human beings is coming from the paternalist protection narrative? I, alone, as a man, understand the humanity of women and will protect them from those other predatory sharks. I will protect them. I will be good to them. I will understand their humanity. I will have them in my little hareem and you can't have them because you're just a crude beast i need to protect them from. They are incapable of protecting themselves. Interesting that. Drunken women …
/r/MensRights24/06/14 04:15 PM
1

A decade from now the MRM could be where feminism was in, say, 1990. Before long it might be the MRM lobby everyone has to get support from, if history is any guide. Isn't there an offence of failure to report a crime. If she sat on it for a year...? Where the other one came from I've no idea. Were they friends? Likely. Seems like it's more than going to the bathroom women do together. Duty to the public interest be damned, in this case at least. That could have been a whole year's worth of rape…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 12:53 AM
1

Yes. Interesting. Above all he is a politician grooming for high office, despite his words. Keenly aware of the appeal of the feminist position ,he tries to take a middle path. Likewise self-concern knows he would have been spared much trouble under the "anonymous until charged",principle.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 05:39 PM
1

OK. Fair enough. I didn't miss it. I just didn't address it. I agree about all the paedophile hypocrisy. I remain doubtful about whether the part you quoted, with its unconvincing use of the passive voice, is any less reliable in the Daily Mail than in The Guardian. My guess would be that the journalist has talked to people about the events but can't put a name to all of it because not all of them will allow it. The point is, there is most likely a genuine belief of the part of the journalist th…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 01:24 PM
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‘It’s been a very difficult and very sobering experience,’ Ben says, choosing his words with care. Here, in the quiet library at the Oxford Union, he seems a tiny figure to have borne such a burden. ‘These poisonous allegations have made me re-evaluate everything. It has been very testing. I wondered how anyone could believe something so vile. I wondered how I was going to withstand all the poison. ‘But did I ever have a moment of self-doubt? Did I ever think, “Am I sure I remember exactly what …
/r/MensRights22/06/14 12:45 PM
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Better to say "it's the media, and sadly that means we can't take it all at face value". Don't be yet another reflex anti-Daily Mail snob. I hate the British gutter press as much as anyone and would never even glance at it above the fold, still less buy a copy for fear of encouraging them. I know how they damage minds with all their sensationalism and faux working-class prose style and pernicious and grubby prying into everyone's back yard for the most salacious tittle tattle and drivel only to …
/r/MensRights22/06/14 12:26 PM
1

Oh. Pork. I jest.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 12:00 AM
1

What about Phallophobia? Do we have that?
/r/MensRights21/06/14 09:29 PM
3

The way the author is afraid of me, as a man, is very scary. I'm absolutely terrified.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 09:07 PM
1

Do we have small vag jokes?
/r/MensRights21/06/14 08:23 PM
2

Yes. That really is a nailing. Hammer that baby all the way home.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 08:16 PM
2

Interesting observation. She could be fantasising her fear. On the other hand it's not clear. She could be just afraid.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 08:13 PM
1

Weak.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 12:41 AM
0

I'm actually an instrument of the dark forces of the evil empire.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:59 PM
1

That is what love is. Sexual desire is something completely different. You're really twisted. I'm sorry about that.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:57 PM
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Sarcasm may be construed as offensive.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:55 PM
1

Ooh. Block capitals. And misrepresent much. Where did I ever equate? You really are wearisome.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:55 PM
1

Yes. No connection between love and sex. Any suggestion to the contrary is "twisted", says someone who accuses others of appearing to try to be offensive. Lol
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:49 PM
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Whatever. He only started insulting you after you insulted him. You have no idea. Pigfuck has been insulting me for years. He was banned. That's why he's now pigfuck-again. Really best to stay out of pigfuck business.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:00 PM
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Oh. I'm "pretty twisted" am I? And who was being offensive? Yeah, fuck you too, you conniving, two-faced, willfully offensive, misrepresenting piece of subhuman scum. Remind be to be offensive just in case I forget. Fuck off. You and your horse.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:55 PM
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Well at that rate you could write mine everything I ever wrote. To keep it simple, stock to what I've said to you. Otherwise it really will get complicated. For example, pigfuck called me, I think the phrase of choice was "subhuman scum". Did you notice that? There is such a thing as context.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:50 PM
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No. I'm mostly straight. I don't love women more than men. I find them more sexually attractive, but that is a completely different story. Well, OK. I'm dealing with a guy who has his own very tendentious interpretation of the word "love". If you want to say more you can. I'm fairly indifferent, but if it looks interesting I'll read it. It's a nice sunny day here. Don't know what it's like where you are?
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:46 PM
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I wasn't talking about gays, obviously. Is that your point? If not, I'm lost. If you are gay, you won't have an instinct to love women. In other news, the sun is bright and it can now be revealed that the pope is catholic, confirming long held suspicions.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:38 PM
1

What are you? Some kind of PUA? I didn't address this remark to you. I addressed it to pigfuck. Are you pigfuck? I'm certainly trying to offend him. How am I doing? It's interesting that you have to misrepresent me in order to justify your case. You must have gone to all the trouble of lifting that quote from a comment addressed to someone else in another branch of the thread and appending it to words addressed to you in order to make me appear willfully offensive to you. I wonder why you would …
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:27 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:04 PM
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I was talking about love. You say that men love women more than other men. Okay, I find that to be blatantly false. Ok. I give up.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:02 PM
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You sound like you've got an axe to grind.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 12:41 PM
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How did I defend him? What words did I use? I notice you didn't use the word "troll" in your last comment. Did you change your mind on that? Can't you see the problem here. You are closing down debate. Imagine if the trial had been for murder. Would you accuse me of being a murderer defender? No. We could just have the debate. But this topic, as soon as it's given this often quite inappropriate red hot label becomes impossible to discuss, in just the same way that a rape accusation becomes impos…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 10:35 AM
1

Ok. No worries. Actually what I was trying to do was restart the previous discussion without the word "protect", because some people were getting hung up on it. I didn't really mean it in the clichéd sense of 'protect and provide". I just meant care for or look out for or be good to. I just thought that motive of benevolence, wherever it comes from, is horribly misplaced in the sea of vilification against men that seems to have pervaded our culture. The problem was, people were gripping on to my…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 10:18 AM
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Well, that's what I meant, the woman you are with, and I retract "protect". I meant "care for". But that slip up is irreparable, seemingly.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 09:56 AM
1

I don't want to live in h the society these sheep-like movements produce. How are they any better than what we've got (
/r/MensRights20/06/14 09:53 AM
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It you read the thread again you will find in the comment you responded to I was talking about love. You responded by taking about protection. I pointed that out and you accused me of wanting to be offensive. I don't know how I could have been more civil.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 09:47 AM
1

Yes. Good way of putting it. Weaponised victimhood.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 08:15 PM
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I see what you're saying but it makes me a bit sad because I'd rather live in a world where women don't owe men anything, in the material sense you presumably mean, but rather we all share the burden equally.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 11:17 AM
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Oh it's been in my mind for a long time. There should be a single phrase for it, but I can't think what to call it: the oppressive power of appearing oppressed?
/r/MensRights19/06/14 11:12 AM
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Exactly. Bias elegantly laid bare. Nice comment. Thanks.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 11:03 AM
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I like rape. Rape is good. We need more rape. EDIT: I notice there's been some defensive downvoting. Perhaps punters think I'm serious. But really I am. Most of all I like to rape ducks.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:59 AM
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Just because there's an instinct doesn't mean there isn't also social conditioning.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:58 AM
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It's interesting how the topic of this thread brings the feminists hovering in like wasps and trying to police what we can and cannot say.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:56 AM
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I said "love". You said "protection". Did you notice the difference? As for "treating..special", "[t]o an ordinary human being, love means nothing if it does not mean loving some people more than others," quoting Orwell. Try to make the distinction between our nature and our conditioning, or, if it's too much for you, go and join the feminists.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:50 AM
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You're the one who is refusing to argue. You haven't answered any of my points in the previous comment you Stalinist turd. As for mislabeling, you are the master of that, accusing me of defending paedophiles and refusing to enter into any engagement with me except to label me a troll. I could argue your brains into a barrel. its like your bill o'rielly, angry for no reason, attacking without consideration and attempting to sound smart and failing. Well isn't that smart of you, condescending fuck…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:42 AM
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More hyperbole from pigfuck.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:30 AM
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That's a pretty good source.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:25 AM
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What the fuck is your problem, pigfuck? You describe yourself well: pointless fuckwit. And that misandric moral hysteric slur is as easy as false rape allegation. People like you don't belong in the MRM. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:19 AM
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Gender roles may have been drummed into us, but not love. What are you? Some kind of PUA?
/r/MensRights19/06/14 03:57 AM
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And so they turned love into hate, in the manner of Orwell's dystopian 1984.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 03:48 AM
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You haven't rooted out anyone you deluded twat. You are the one posting in feminisms imagining you can get along with feminists and bringing the influence of AMR into this sub. You want every post and comment in this sub to be monitored for possible disagreement with AMR until nothing is left but AMR-approved bullshit. Grow up and stop caring about what those Stalinist fucks think. Appeasement gets you nowhere. In fact, with your false-rape-allegation-like troll calling and your loud bloviating …
/r/MensRights19/06/14 03:29 AM
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Yes. This is a very important idea. I am oppressed. Therefore I am better than you. I command you to obey. It is believed you must because I am better than you, because everyone knows how oppressed I am. I'd forgotten that's already in Orwell. Thanks.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 10:15 PM
1

Yes. The same frighteningly large number of people I am not interested in addressing.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 05:42 PM
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Then why worry about it? I don't value the support of people who accept what they're told without checking it anyway.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 05:29 PM
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The obvious reason to be anti feminist is precisely that you believe in equality.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 04:44 PM
1

Ok. Thanks for this very reasonable comment. Refreshing! Now, being victimised in an emotionally traumatizing way really does send shivers down my spine. I seem to have had that from women in the past and I really do fear it. But if what you say is true it's very interesting.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 11:42 PM
1

Yes. I wasted my time. No more. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:57 PM
1

Oh no. I've wasted a whole lot of time talking to someone who started out by misrepresenting me. Should have ignored you right there. What a shameless waste of time that was.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:56 PM
1

I don't know what you're talking about. But you're an AMR fearmonger and baseless troll accuser so what's the point talking to you anyway.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:46 PM
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First retract the baseless claim I'm a troll then I may consider talking to you. Otherwise fuck right off. I've no time for that shit. You are the one under the spell of AMR bringing its influence here. Simple solution. Don't read them. Who gives a flying fuck. Stop being such a scared little twitcher. You will die soon. Life is shorter than you think. Speak out.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:41 PM
1

Look. Theories are ten a penny. Go read Farrell "why men are...". Read earlier feminists who you might agree with: Wollstonecraft, De Beauvoir, Friedan. Read about deCrow who died yesterday but clung to the rationalist roots of her feminism without shying away from the implications. But above all trust your intuition. All this so-called theory has to make sense and be capable of actually explaining your lived experience. Watch that video of the Janice Fiamengo speech. What if this theory of a cl…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:36 PM
1

It's now obvious you are a scared little jerk running scared of honest discussion because some also AMR stalinists might willfully misrepresent you. Timid little Beastie. You'll get nowhere in this or anything else. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll. Obviously. You Stalinist idiot. Fuck off and die shit-head.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:08 PM
1

If only you could see how this fear of AMR gives them power over us. You've no idea who I am and the question stands quite independently. Fuck off baseless troll-accuser.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:03 PM
0

The lengths to which this thread is going to avoid a simple question shows that dissembling is not restricted to feminists. Why am I surprised?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:01 PM
1

Sorry. Read again. You think would not fear rape as much? There just seems to be a disconnect here.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:59 PM
1

A very fine line divides reason from instinct. It is disappointing you have decided to join the inquisition. No doubt burning at the stake will be next.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:54 PM
1

A very fine line divides reason from instinct. It is disappointing you have decided to join the inquisition. No doubt burning at the stake will be next.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:54 PM
1

Your attempt to misrepresent me is vile, you old knee-jerk moral hysteric. Go join the feminists. Why don't you?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:13 PM
1

50% of rape victims are men. I don't see how the gender of the rapist is that important. Well, because that's the way I framed the question. You can answer a different question of you like.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:12 PM
1

Things are going a bit solipsistic here. That's great for you. How is it for me?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:10 PM
1

Yeah. That's pretty much what I think and that distinction is supported by the fact that one form of rape, stranger-rape, is associated with murder and the other is not. In your parenthetical remark, however, i would replace "is" with "can be". The way things are going date-rape could be where she didn't sing a song of praise with sufficient enthusiasm. Definitely not very serious as anyone willing to be honest can surely see.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:39 PM
1

That's a bit sneaky. "Fully rational" already excludes conditioning.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:25 PM
1

Really? It's not that I'm unsympathetic, by the way.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:22 PM
1

That's not a bad answer. The most reasonable one so far, though I have some reservations. There could be date-rape and murder, logically, as a possibility. Why not just say date-rape is not like ordinary rape? It's really not the same as dragging a woman down a back alley and raping her. That's how I see it anyway.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:12 PM
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The kind of eloquence one would expect from someone who defends child molesters. Evidence? Maybe you're just jealous because you totally lack eloquence yourself?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:06 PM
0

Yes pigfuck, you're at it again.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:05 PM
1

So not answering the question then. Standard feminist tactic.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:05 PM
1

Evasive!
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:03 PM
1

Yes. That's a bit more fair. I was talking outside of prisons. So you think if men and women were rational, outside of prison women would fear rape twice as much as men? I'm just trying to get a handle on what you think.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:03 PM
1

Yeah, but not as likely to be victims of the opposite sex. If men and women were rational, would they fear rape equally?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:59 PM
1

I fear being raped a little less than that, but only because not many people are going to try and force a 6'6" man to do something he doesn't want to do. Not many women are going to try and force this man to do something he doesn't want to do. Instead they use manipulation.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:58 PM
1

I notice you ignored my request to read it again without "often".
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:55 PM
1

That seems part fair enough and part cop out. If men and women were fully rational, would they fear rape equally?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:53 PM
1

But really, if both men and women were rational, would we be equally afraid of rape? Is that what you believe.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:37 PM
1

Yes but is that all there is to it?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:34 PM
1

Yes. Very weak regulation. They twice inspected a notorious care home, winterbourne I think, and found nothing. Then a whistleblower blew.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:47 AM
1

Yes. It is a shame but don't worry. I got disheartened a long time ago. Now I just get angry with the fuckers. Conventional perceptions should be challenged. I'm all for that, but you don't do it by just asserting the contrary. By the way, it is no part of my case to say women get murdered less than men. I never said that. Men are more vulnerable to street violence than women by quite a wide margin last time I checked. My main point is just if rape is rape ie. there are no more or less serious t…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:45 AM
0

Fuck you you fucking reflex moral hysteric fuck.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:24 AM
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What a fucking meathead you are, pigfuck. Now you've decided you're George bush going after terrorists and your joining feminists in their reflex moral panic against all things male and sexual without knowing anything about what this old man did or did not do. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:23 AM
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My wife changed her job because someone was rapef and murdered in a park she was in the habit of walking through to get to work. She took a massive pay cut to switch locations. At least she said she did. Since she never showed me a payslip I'm not quite sure what to believe. Thank you very much dear. I kept telling her at least she could get a taxi for that last bit, but no, she wouldn't. Made no sense to me but there it is. Either she's as fast as you are or she was lying. I suspect both. But t…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:13 AM
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You want evidence for "often"? What the fuck would that look like. Stop being so obtuse. Have no interest in disputing " often ". It has no bearing on my point. Do you know what my point is. Read what I wore again without " often " dimwit. Remember, contradictions are what I'm interested in. They are contradictions in the conventional picture that we are trying to challenge but you are so blinded by mention of women getting raped you can't see that. I despair. What is the point of being here.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:51 AM
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That's for fuck all to do with anything i said. What are you smoking? Lazy as shit. Can't be bothered reading what you wrote. Can't be bothered referencing and can't be bothered reading what I wrote. Could you even be bothered to think? Not sure it's worth your while bothering to get out of bed.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:45 AM
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This is a serious question. Women are often raped and murdered, yet you never hear of female on male rapists murdering, nor is campus date-rape associated with murder. These are serious inconsistencies concerning a very serious matter.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 12:20 AM
1

Would you care to rephrase that according to the rules of English grammar?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 12:04 AM
0

I would guess that feminists would characterize any lack of shame or guilt on the part of alleged male-on-female rapists in campus rape scenarios to a combination of insufficient education about rape and consent So real rapists, those who know enough shame to commit murder, have been sufficiently well-educated? Come on. Even on their own terms, feminists couldn't get away with that one.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 10:58 PM
2

What are you advocating here? That his crime be ignored because he got away with it for 40 years? The charges should have been dealt with many years ago. It helps no-one to bring them up 40 years after the event.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 10:55 PM
1

OK. NotAllMen are rapists and paedophiles. YesAllWomen are what?
/r/MensRights15/06/14 10:27 PM
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And the murder? You said nothing about that. Also, I think women are bothered by the prospect of rape as well, as I went on to say. Comments gratefully received.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 10:24 PM
3

Well, I agree with: This plays into the stereotype that men are little more than animals, willing to have sex at all times, with any willing or unwilling partner. I hope we can all agree that this is, indeed, a stereotype that is deeply insulting and dehumanizing. If we recast consent to include both men and women, we can accomplish two things simultaneously: we can get both men and women to understand that unwanted sexual behavior is assault whether it comes from men or women, and that women ar…
/r/MensRights15/06/14 06:53 PM
1

Actually, both and in particular the meaning of these particular hashtags?
/r/MensRights15/06/14 03:32 PM
1

What the fuck are you talking about? Who are you and have you read any of my previous comments? What a wacko! So you want Fiamengo, Straughan, Tieman, Farrell, deCrow, Pizzey and all the rest of them to make amends? Let me know when you'll be leaving and remember to take your dog. I'm not sure you were ever invited.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 03:31 PM
1

I can see sections of your comment being quoted by people who don't understand humour or satire and it saddens me. What humour or satire?
/r/MensRights14/06/14 09:13 PM
0

Shocking!
/r/MensRights14/06/14 12:33 PM
1

I really don't understand this. I'm dull, stupid and tired. I couldn't be bothered going onto twitter and figuring out what the heck this crap is all about. If you would explain it to me I'd give you a big kiss on the lips. That was a promise, not a threat.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 09:42 AM
3

Feminism is patriarchal and morally conservative. Men's Rights are a complement to women's rights under a genuinely egalitarian paradigm as original conceived, at least in principle, by feminists. Egalitarianism is intrinsic to the left. It's feminism that's right wing, at least after it makes the fateful decision to support untrammeled female power rather than to propose to constrain women within the demands of equality.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 09:33 AM
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This is very interesting. DeCrow obviously has a lot in common with Farrell. I had never heard of her. Thanks for posting. I think this is really interesting because, like Farrell, she has started with feminist principles of rational social equality for women as human beings but then not shied away from the implications of these principles for men. In other words, if there are things men must give up for women to achieve equality there are things women must give up too for just the same reason. …
/r/MensRights13/06/14 09:32 PM
11

What's wrong with it? I am a man. Women owe me sex. I've been considering suing them to force them to pay the debt. Why does this sound like such an odd thing to say? Could it be that it's completely unrepresentative of anything any sane man would ever think? Just wondering.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 09:02 PM
1

I'm first in line. Get thee behind me.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:22 PM
2

Yes. Tua culpa. But more to the point, I had a comment deleted and, in all the excitement, didn't even notice and can't remember what it said. Out-fucking-rageous! I demand a full refund.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:20 PM
1

I didn't delete anything man. Has this whole thread been deleted? Wouldn't surprise me. No big deal. I was knowingly pushing the envelope anyway. But hey! I'm an MRA. That's what we do. So no. It wasn't me. Go ahead and let rip. It's only the fucking internet.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:23 PM
0

What? You've never raped anyone? Oh come on.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:28 PM
0

OK. What about the second paragraph?
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:26 PM
1

I'm not sure about this, but I don't want to cause offence by arguing about it. I just think sometimes reason and logic can cause offence.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:25 PM
1

OK, well, that's fair enough too. No complaint here.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:23 PM
1

Hmm. Maybe. I could buy that. But would really be dumb? Perhaps that higher standard is more worth adhering to. Anyway, it was just a thought.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:22 PM
1

Sorry. I don't see the bearing of that on the issue at all.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:20 PM
1

By false you meaning knowingly false, I presume. There are other types. False memory, insanity, mass hysteria and so forth. Seems to me if the standard of proof was restored false allegations would be unprovable and therefore relatively harmless. Wasting police time is already a separate offence.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:19 PM
1

I think the meaning of the term just will change as its use changes. That says nothing about the moral status of what it previously denoted. I think the meaning of term is already changing and will continue to do so, but if you don't want to deliberately use it in this new way that's fair enough. It was just an idea and I decided to throw it out there and see what happened.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 02:36 PM
1

OK. Fair enough. Both reasonable points. But I didn't mean to imply the trivialisation of anything though I kind of knew it would seem that way. Nor am I trying to aggrandise the significance of rape. Instead, I'm responding to what i take to be a new use of the term by others by using it in the new way. If anything, the term "rape" has been trivialised by them already. The crime itself may still be seen as immensely grave. It just needs a new name to avoid ambiguity.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:58 PM
1

Thanks. That last paragraph was interesting. But what do you think the "thing" is?
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:54 AM
1

Care to say why?
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:50 AM
1

English? Would you care to roll up your sleeves and steep outside?
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:46 AM
0

This is about the sweetest thing I've seen since coming to this sub fifteen years ago.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:39 PM
7

Traditionalists have no interest in relaxing the male gender role so that men and boys will be afforded the same compassion society affords women and girls. They want the bulk of men to remain available as work horses and canon fodder Agreed!
/r/MensRights11/06/14 07:22 PM
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See. Not banned.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 07:19 PM
9

Oh yes you will...
/r/MensRights11/06/14 07:19 PM
0

Of course, feminists/liberals (the latter sadly, because I'm quite liberal myself) will have none of this. They won't tolerate any narrative that suggests that women should do anything - put others first, obey the promises and commitments they made, take a long-term view of their own well-being - but have complete freedom to do whatever the hell they want. Are you trying to say some actions are better than others and that this applies to everybody, INCLUDING WOMEN? So, you support male dominatio…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 02:42 PM
1

What about cultural tolerance? Is it disgusting and barbaric to many? Yes. But for some it's a cultural norm. Where's the line there? Oh right, it's drawn where their fee-fees begin. Surely the line is the border of the nation state? The people within its boundaries have sovereignty over themselves and are alone free to legislate for themselves. If you think it's wrong just say so. Together the people makes one law for all. Is it OK or isn't it. Culture is just the condition under which members …
/r/MensRights11/06/14 02:30 PM
1

Can you elaborate? Some types are similar to MGM? Other types are worse, i'm guessing? Just want the straight dope on this please. Don't know much about it but I'm assuming you would concede that at least some types are plainly worse. That seems to be the view of most people out there including those against MGM as well. Just wondering.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 02:24 PM
3

Socrates is a man. All men are Socrates.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 11:26 PM
0

Nobody comparing MRAs to Nazis deserves a proper response. Reserve your fire for more subtle arguments that are more likely to do us damage.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:10 PM
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Firstly, every movement if a hate movement. If it takes its goals to be good then it must take the reverse of its goals to be bad and hate what is bad. Secondly, what is wing with hatred? It's a natural and sometimes honourable emotion which should never have been morally or legally legislated against in the abstract. Feminism probably had a lot to do with that due its touchy-feely let's all make nice and demobilise uncomfortable dissenting voices crap. Thirdly, a clearer case of antisocial hatr…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:07 PM
25

Is this how you speak to your superiors?
/r/MensRights07/06/14 07:25 PM
3

This makes me very happy.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 07:22 PM
7

One thing to look out for is that if feminism helps men too by defeating the patriarchy, then men's rights helps women too by defeating the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 11:24 PM
1

But in her eyes I see nothing, no sign of love behind the tears cried for no one...
/r/MensRights06/06/14 11:17 PM
1

Oh, go on. You will, won't you?
/r/MensRights06/06/14 11:16 PM
1

No. I refuse.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 11:09 PM
2

Refer to them whatever way you want.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 10:34 PM
0

Oh dear. "eat a shotgun". Very passive aggressive. Scarey.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 09:09 PM
1

Nobody gives a fuck about cursing. It's insidious, mealy-mouthed toads who come by pseudo-politely accusing somebody of something that: a) They can't prove or even support with evidence outside idle conjecture b) The accused can't disprove and can't defend against once the slur is applied c) Doesn't make a damn bit of difference anyway because mens rea cannot be determined and therefore carries no implications for the meaning of the words on the screen. Now if you want to state the facts: "this …
/r/MensRights06/06/14 08:22 PM
1

Zionism has nothing to do with Israel's laws about de-clawing cats. That was the whole point dude. Get with the program and stop frying my brain over nothing.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 08:16 PM
1

Contributions aren't only through links, condescending shitbag. When you get done with being a douche, come back and we can talk. Also, when you get done with labeling everybody who doesn't agree with you a troll...
/r/MensRights06/06/14 08:14 PM
2

Israel is a racist state. People who criticize are not anti-Jewish. That is a load of crap. Palestinians are human beings with rights too. They were forcibly removed to create a homeland for the Jews. They were told could live like dogs or get out. You are the racist if you support Israel. Who the hell do you think you are to talk about muddying the waters? Fuck off. Chomsky is Jewish. Finkelstein is Jewish. Avi Shlaim is Jewish. Criticizing Israel is not anti-Jewish unless you think Judaism jus…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 07:31 PM
1

Well. My thinking on this is disjointed and undeveloped. I will just add one thought I had today which may serve as an example of the more general points above but which also may stand on its own. In the transition from tradition to modernity, women's bodies remain of greater value than men's, but their ownership has changed. Women's bodies have always had added value and been fought over by men for ownership. A father gives away his daughter to the groom in a vestige of this institution even in…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 07:21 PM
1

I'm talking about what the op posted. I took him at his word. Who gives a flying duck what way I'm using the word "zionist" anyway? I used it as a convenient adjective to identify one of the persons in the dispute. That's all. What is this? Word policing? Occipitally you know who was talking about so it worked. I'll use any damn word any damn way I please. Ding dong!
/r/MensRights06/06/14 05:44 PM
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This is absurd. The answer is to accuse every single student and member of staff on campus without exception. I'm not kidding. Why is this a good idea in practice? Because it exposes the absurdity in practice. Fast. EDIT: No really. This is the answer, because the system is wide open to abuse, and the solution is to demonstrate that by abusing it. Note I am also saying report all men. Report everything. Report the dean for fucking a duck. This whole thing is totally out-fucking-rageous. Anybody,…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 05:34 PM
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Well yeah. It is. You should see the high value I can get for my tidy ass. Refreshing honesty. Criminalising it only makes it worse for the workers. The usual with moralising sanctimony.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 05:27 PM
1

Dude! Your man was talking about de-clawing cats, a despicable practice. Happens it was being done in Israel. It was the other guy who came in getting all defensive and construing it as criticism of Israel, which it wasn't particularly. Evidently, you're not allowed to criticise Israel, according to Zionists, so obviously he's a Zionist. What is the problem. I hope you're not as dumb as it appears.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 05:05 PM
1

Sorry for the duplicate post. Stupid smartphone! One has been upvoted and the other replied to so I'll leave them both. Fuck it.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 01:13 PM
2

You don't read many textbooks do you? The term is of course so highly contested as to be a meaningless propaganda term best ignored. You will have to travel to very remote regions of the language, however, before you discover it being used to describe actions other than bombing or shooting or like kinds of violence. It has been extended by some governments to include interfering with communication devices, but that's an anomalous and rare usage. Everybody knows criticising on redit is not terror…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 01:11 PM
1

...and apologise for the needless and unsubstantiated imputation? We cannot have meaningful conversations here if every muted voice of dissent is greeted with the troll-callers chorus.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:59 PM
1

What is this, a dick waving contest?
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:50 PM
1

No?
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:48 PM
0

Label me whatever you want asshole. I label you a troll-caller. You called him a troll. You might as well admit. You can deflect by saying you weren't the first but facts remain and I didn't say you were anyway. Fuck off JPFlatfuck. You had no evidence. Idle conjecture is fruitless. Doesn't matter how much of it you do. It's still useless. It's people like you who make this place hostile to newcomers and innocent questioners. Bullying scum. Fuck off you insouciant, arrogant, supercilious little …
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:45 PM
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No. It's not terrorism. Terrorism is bombing or shooting, placing the lives of civilians at risk, either in this country or abroad, for the purpose of bringing about a political outcome. Roughly. That's the law. Your Zionist opponent committed an old logical fallacy called an ad hominem. Ask how his conclusion follows from his premise. That should terrorise him to death.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:38 PM
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No. It's not terrorism. Terrorism is bombing or shooting, placing the lives of civilians at risk, either in this country or abroad, for the purpose of bringing about a political outcome. Roughly. That's the law. Your Zionist opponent committed an old logical fallacy called an ad hominem. Ask how his conclusion follows from his premise. That should terrorise him to death.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:37 PM
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'She repeatedly refused and declined his advances until he ultimately broke down her resistance,' defense lawyer Edward Brass claimed That's it. She's been raped. Poor thing. Ah, the sweet smell of hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 08:11 PM
0

This is gonna be good. An apostate always tends to resent his former belief system with a special vengeance. Sounds pretty bad what you went through. Makes me sad to read it.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 08:05 PM
1

They link. You cross reference. What's the problem?
/r/MensRights05/06/14 02:17 PM
1

Correct. I agree with this also. Paul Elam is great, but we should call him out when we don't agree with him, just as we would anybody else.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 10:37 AM
0

Don't worry about that asshole. He's an arrogant blowhard Pickup Artist who doesn't belong here anyway. I told him to fuck off for you. From now on you're on your own.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 10:34 AM
1

Fuck off.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 10:33 AM
1

That's a very good point. Personally, I like Paul Elam, though I don't know that much about him. But I like your comment here unequivocally. It should apply to anybody, not just Paul Elam. Thanks for signing up and posting. Fuck anybody who thinks you're a troll. It wouldn't matter anyway. All that matters is the content of your contributions. Trolling is entirely a matter of mens rea. In reddit, all that matters is actus rea. Have a good day.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 10:32 AM
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Nope. Telling them to fuck off feels a whole barrel better and has the added advantage that they may actually fuck off. It comes doctor recommended ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights05/06/14 10:24 AM
-1

Get the fuck out of your hypothetical me-ness.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 10:22 AM
-2

It is possible you are a troll.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 01:37 AM
0

"Looks like" = "is"? Can't you make up your mind or don't you think there's any difference?
/r/MensRights05/06/14 01:36 AM
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They have no evidence you are a troll. Tell them to fuck off.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 01:35 AM
0

Nobody is saying you are a troll. JPFlatFuck is. I do agree OP is a concern troll What the fuck is up with that?
/r/MensRights05/06/14 01:34 AM
1

You, Sir, are a Troll and I claim my five dollars.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 12:01 AM
2

In politics much is propaganda. Terms need translating. Substitute and re-read. Then all makes perfect sense. "Misogynist" = anti-feminist.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:51 PM
7

You wouldn't be a hypocrite. You'd be self-hating. Slightly different concept. Subtle, but you can do it.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:50 PM
2

..the violence against women MRAs promote through their belief that the patriarchy doesn’t exist and reinforcing an ideology that directly harms women. So just disagreeing with them about the existence of patriarchy promotes violence against women. That's why they want to stop us conferring. We have difference beliefs. And that it is patriarchal to appeal to the need to protect women more than men, in fact, that all good men should stand ready to the protect the poor women victimz, entirely esca…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 10:40 PM
1

I get it. Thanks.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 10:33 PM
4

Odd. They want to stop us conferring. Why?
/r/MensRights04/06/14 09:52 PM
1

Sorry. I'm too stupid to follow your meaning here.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 09:48 PM
1

Ffs man stop being a robot. Do you want to talk with me or not? If so, answer the fucking question I asked 78 comments ago already. If not, fuck off.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 09:47 PM
1

I want you to critically think, like you've got a brain.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 08:25 PM
1

Source? Those claims are pretty explosive. Good article. Thanks for posting.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 08:04 PM
2

Do you really think feminists want to destroy macho men? I always thought it was the non-macho ones they really hated. I could be wrong.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 07:42 PM
4

I'm n not sure I agree with this business of hiring security just to have a meeting. It's starting to seem like a protection racket. Still, i'm not familiar with the details.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 07:39 PM
1

It would be. Have you got anything else? Otherwise I'll conclude you're as shallow as a knave.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 07:37 PM
1

So other than saying there has to be another asymmetry somewhere else you have nothing specific to offer?
/r/MensRights04/06/14 04:46 PM
1

So what's your point: we should deprive women of the vote? You realize most men were deprived of the vote during at least the first half of he nineteenth century as well, yes? You're welcome to call me "stupid". I'll call you a mad motherfucker. But if you want me to take you seriously you'll have to start acting seriously. Right now I'm starting to think you're actually a screw loose.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 04:14 PM
2

What are you talking about? While you're at it, I came across another way of redressing the sexual power balance. What could possibly go wrong. '"Bad hijab" ― exposure of any part of the body other than hands and face – is subject to punishment of up to 70 lashes or 60 days imprisonment. In April 2007, the Tehran police, (which is under Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei's supervision), began the most fierce crackdown on what is known as "bad hijab" in more than a decade. In the capital Tehran thousand…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 03:20 PM
1

Habanero. Two As.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 03:07 PM
2

My Dear Piroko, as my old tutor used to say, you would greatly benefit from constraining your wider flights of fancy and sticking to answering the question. You wrote: Acknowledgement of the asymmetry of sexual power and sexual value, and consequently granting men culturally upheld asymmetry in other areas, as pretty much every enduring society has done since the dawn of recorded history. I will charitably leave aside the fact that this does not constitute a meaningful sentence in English. I am …
/r/MensRights04/06/14 02:47 PM
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Excellent. The theme seems to be personal responsibility.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 10:39 AM
2

Can you give some examples of the culturally upheld asymmetry men are granted?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 11:44 PM
2

Dude. Take down your defence shields. My plasma guns are not primed and aimed at you. Curiously, I adopted the conventional form of the question for its ordinary purpose: requesting information. If you please, start with the first question first.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:40 PM
3

No. Now please answer my question(s).
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:29 PM
8

So say more about this other asymmetry. What is it. Where do men have disproportionate power: the patriarchy? Why would it not lie in supremacy in the element of physical violence? But clearly we have built social institutions that regulate and control this natural supremacy. Why could we not likewise build social institutions to regulate and control the element in which nature gives women superiority?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:35 PM
3

Evidence? What's that?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:13 PM
3

When i was a feminist, I used to believe menf dominated women as a class by force through domestic violence and rape. Class relations were preserved by instances of physical force casting a pall of fear over the assembly. All men are potential Taoists. This fixing Google keyboard won't even let me say "rapists", and keeps changing it to "Taoists". Alright then. I'm a fucking Taoist you worthless piece of shit. Sorry to all actual Taoists. Anyway. All men are Taoists or capable of the Tao deep do…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:43 PM
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MRAs are the ones who are raping and attacking people. So much so that they have to lie about everything they do and accuse everyone else of their own crimes. You're pretty sick to latch on to this sociopathic organization. Yes. You are a sick sociopath who blames everyone else for your own crimes. You rape people's lives with false rape allegations and then lie about it. Can't you fuckers ever stop talking about rape anyway. I never raped anyone. Get the fuck out of my face with that shit. Who …
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:45 PM
6

I've never raped or threatened anybody, you self-righteous moral superior make up victim status supremacist hypocrite. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:33 PM
8

We hate women? I love and adore women with all my tiny fibrillating little heart. Indeed, that seems to be the hearty of the problem. LOVE IS HATE Is that where we're at? 1984 already. Fuck off. What the fuck to feminists think about men? Not much love.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:29 PM
-1

This is criminal assault. Go straight to the police. Tell them what is happening. Seek their advice.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:21 PM
1

Yes. This is perfectly normal in the early stages of a healthy relationship. A common practice is to have your man parts surgically removed, which happily solves this and many future problems. Man parts. Who needs them? Alternatively, get the duck out while you still can and start over with someone else.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:20 PM
1

This is great! Can you maybe expand on it? I'm interested in hearing more! Well. My thinking on this is disjointed and undeveloped. I will just add one thought I had today which may serve as an example of the more general points above but which also may stand on its own. In the transition from tradition to modernity, women's bodies remain of greater value than men's, but their ownership has changed. Women's bodies have always had added value and been fought over by men for ownership. A father gi…
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:26 PM
3

Who cares?
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:20 PM
1

They will, Dave, they will. But a duck I do not give.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 07:14 PM
1

Who gives a duck about AMR?
/r/MensRights02/06/14 05:35 PM
0

Where is this shit coming from? Get real. And learn how to spell "lunatics".
/r/MensRights02/06/14 02:31 PM
3

Just a stupid rant not even worth reading.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 08:10 PM
1

Exactly. Look at Searle, J., "The Construction of Social Reality", 1996? for a philosopher's rebuttal of this nonsense, especially in the last two chapters.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 07:03 PM
3

That last line. Deeply crucial. Yes. This is the problem. Reality exists independently of representation. Important!
/r/MensRights01/06/14 11:29 AM
1

I think if that's your intuition it's telling you something. It may be wrong. But right or wrong that is, just is, your take on male versus female likelihood of posing an immediate physical threat. It's not based on anatomy as you alert us to. But it is based on a lifetime's experience and it amounts to how we really feel about this topic, no matter what we may claim to think. Better to be honest and deal with that.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:41 PM
2

This is a very good question. We have to accept men and women as they are but devise a kind of constitution governing the distribution of power between them that would be legitimate. Firstly, men and women are equal in their humanity and should be held equally to basic moral standards. But within that framework contingent differences should be accounted for in the application of those principles. Sorry to be abstract.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:38 PM
1

So a lifetime's intuition on this is wrong? Can you honestly say you haven't had a similar intuition yourself?
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:31 PM
1

I still wasn't that worried once I knew it was a woman. Was I wrong?
/r/MensRights30/05/14 04:57 PM
2

Of course. Her point has no validity. That's why I said "may have" to mirror her formula.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 04:55 PM
1

No doubt a very anatomically sound analysis. The judge never listen. Grievous bodily harm is just a slip up away at best.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:47 PM
1

That's my point. Men are more physically threatening. Women rely on guile, generally.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:18 PM
1

"Wanker"?
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:13 PM
3

There are 400,000 words in the English language, and there are seven you can’t say on television. What a ratio that is! 399,993 to 7. They must really be baaaad. They must be OUTRAGEOUS to be separated from a group that large. “All of you words over here, you seven….baaaad words.” That’s what they told us, right? …You know the seven, don’t ya? That you can’t say on TV? Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker and tits.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:11 PM
2

Yes. I know, but at the same time why not acknowledge that men actually are more physically threatening on the street if true. Lately I was turning the corner at night in the dark and a guy was coming the other way. I was on guard. He looked like he could be trouble. Then suddenly I realised it was a woman. No worries. That's all right then. Women are just less threatening. Admit it.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:01 PM
1

I'm not addressing these ideas at all. What is the point? Is there any validity to them? The fullness of time will sort that one out. It was always totally ridiculous to try to blame the MRM for what happened.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:54 AM
2

"at its core" is a tad problematic. It's true there is talk of equality at the centre of some feminist theory, but not all, and some positively rejects it. The recent focus on empowerment for women expressly recasts the aim of feminism as untrammelled power for women by any means, traditional or modern. Furthermore, in practice feminism has always tended to neglect that part of the equality balance that would improve freedom, power and choices for men. The enlightenment notion of social equality…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:45 AM
3

While her point may have some validity, it smacks of female supremacy.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:06 AM
1

Looks like a very sensible conclusion from a solid and honest argument.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:01 AM
11

Yeah. Notice it was instigated by a woman. But wait, ladies are sweet and helpless victims of oppression and violence. What happened there?
/r/MensRights30/05/14 09:54 AM
1

Funnily enough, I was just thinking that myself. A great riposte to the oft-heard gynocentric claim that we no longer have need for men, now that we have sperm banks and artificial insemination. The absurdity is to assume women are any more intrinsically worthy of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness than men. Somebody needs to work on that. Thanks for the reminder.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 09:34 AM
7

That's much better.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:30 AM
1

Beta males? You mean the ones that aren't good enough for you. If you feel like fucking off don't stick around on my account.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:28 AM
2

OK. Now we're talking. Please put the word around. Evidently, there's some misunderstanding in this thread.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:26 AM
1

Yo! Welcome to MensRights. We'll let you ladies know when we're ready to indulge your little misandrist bitch-fest. Until then, go and watch some GirlWritesWhat videos, especially the one on nice guys.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:23 AM
1

Excuse me? You're qualified because what? You've undergone a realization? I've undergone a realization too. Reading what you wrote it suddenly hit me you're a precious little princess who feels she's entitled to get hit on by men, and lecture them on communication if she isn't. No man, with very few exceptions, has ever felt entitled to sexual gratification because he was nice to a woman. That's just bullshit. Men know perfectly well they have to earn women's affection. You say guys get shamed a…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:19 AM
2

There's some honesty in what you say. Now, to really understand men, imagine that those times you were turned down and felt awful, someone popped up, pointed the finger at you and said, "You pathetic, vile pervert, we know you only want one thing and you ought to be ashamed of yourself". Now you're getting something of the idea of what it's like to be a man. Society projects shame unto male sexuality, but validates expressions of female sexuality. Until quite recently, just withing living memory…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:00 AM
2

Actually, I want to fuck most of the women I see.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 01:54 AM
1

<busts through the window> This is an extremely generalizing post! Not All Women act like this, I have never made those assumptions about a man in my life! </imitation of the "not all men" comments I've seen on p much every post everywhere> You're a woman. What would you know what it's like to be a man? Most likely you're in denial anyway. Plus, your opening and closing tags don't match. Even your lame attempt at faux html is a fail. Do you get an out for that as well, what with being a woman, o…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 01:40 AM
-3

Umm... You talking about me, wide boy?
/r/MensRights30/05/14 12:19 AM
4

Well, I certainly do my best.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 12:08 AM
27

everyone here seems polite and respectful Me? Polite and respectful? Fuck that shit. Are we really the target of the national media? Charming. Fuck them too.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:01 PM
1

You're just jealous. I know you are. You might as well admit it.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:50 PM
1

It was a joke.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:07 PM
1

I love wearing a skirt. Are you calling me lame. Fuck off and get your own movement, patronising asshole. If you want the MRM to be different, be the change already and get off skirt-lovers' cases. We're not stopping you. You're just being a petulant puerile putz. Who needs you?
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:01 PM
3

I'm not quite sure what you're doing here?
/r/MensRights29/05/14 03:26 PM
2

Why "ought" men and women be the same? Why "ought" sexual dynamics be exactly symmetrical? What is the evolutionary point of having two sexes if they behave and are motivated by exactly the same things? That's what I said. They're different.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 03:17 PM
3

And you are..?
/r/MensRights29/05/14 03:14 PM
-2

Oooh! Touchy. Now you know how we all feel.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 03:12 PM
2

What will and what ought to be are different. Let's keep them separate.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 02:17 PM
3

It's funny because all the men have no problem with this "creepy" guy whereas the girls joke that he is a not only creepy but "probably a murderer" Well yes, he probably is. We all are really, though I've been trying really hard recently as I say. Now then, on a related topic, have you noticed how no one accused you of being creepy for spending six months perving (and I use that verb advisedly) on your now SO and then "jumping" him. With a violent history like that I bet you've got a few corpses…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 02:15 PM
9

Not all men are like that.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 02:06 PM
1

No really. I turned a new leaf after the last time.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 01:56 PM
13

In so many ways men just have to get used to being vile. There's no way out of it. Notice how this reinforces the patriarchy. Men are vile sex monsters. Women are sweet innocent creatures. Until more women start acting like you, so it will remain. Also of note, women must assume equal agency for initiating romantic and sexual encounters if they want to be the equals of men. Feminists, if they were serious, would tell them this. Instead, you get nonsense about how telling women what to do is ever…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 12:58 PM
9

Calm down.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:05 AM
2

Business opportunity: Helmets for her. Our range of soft on the inside, hard on the outside, big hair helmets is design to suit all feminine needs. You go girl! Perfect hair. Perfect cycling. Drive the boys crazy with your cool and breezy style. Enjoy the thrill of rolling your eyes as they ogle.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:35 AM
0

How about telling them you were castrated as a boy? Life is just full of opportunity.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:25 AM
1

Agree with a question? Perhaps. You think the request for information is a propos. Fair enough.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:23 AM
1

This is it. Good question. Great answer. Thanks to both.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:21 AM
2

I just heard this item come up on the BBC radio news. The presenter John Simpson said, from memory, just after the item finished, "If it's a woman do you say 'woman up'"? The female co-presenter said, "No. You still say 'man up' anyway". "Really? That's got to be sexist," replied John. It's now official. The BBC backs the MRM. Let's not announce it till we get the brass band ready.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:15 AM
2

Or, by not working so hard, you have more time to yourself, and hence more time to make an independent contribution to the public sphere which you take to be more worthwhile. It's not so much that life is to be found in the private sphere as that it is to be found in engagement and personal agency.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:05 AM
3

Regret number 2. I wish I didn't work so hard This came from every male patient that I nursed. They missed their children’s youth and their partner’s companionship. Women also spoke of this regret. But as most were from an older generation, many of the female patients had not been breadwinners. All of the men I nursed deeply regretted spending so much of their lives on the treadmill of a work existence. By simplifying your lifestyle and making conscious choices along the way, it is possible to n…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 08:56 AM
1

You seem to be incapable of considering that politics has more than one dimension. Consider: where does authoritarianism exist on the left-right dimension? If you say it exists on the right, with its most extreme expression in fascism, then how do you account for Stalinist communism and its Gulags and central committee dictatorship? Better to say it exists on a separate dimension and offer a two-dimensional plane model. But even them further dimensions may be needed, for example, for religion or…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 09:44 PM
4

So every woman is justified in being selfish because she can't help it? If you're interested, I can arrange to have you escorted from the building.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 09:37 PM
3

Then why would snowden need to man up since he is already a biological male?
/r/MensRights28/05/14 08:55 PM
2

So women can't be principled and unwavering? Which hole did you crawl out of?
/r/MensRights28/05/14 08:54 PM
1

Yes. It's a horrible sexist term, but just a new take on a very old theme. It used to be that the opposite of manning up was being gay. Being gay was seen as being about as bad as being a paedophile is now. It was just the worst thing people could think of you. So it was important to be a real man. I never thought that would change. Lo and behold it did. Gradually it became acceptable, even cool, to be gay. Now men can even get married. That really is pretty incredible. But still we have this ma…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 08:52 PM
2

Duck off.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 08:28 PM
2

Who is this asshole to tell anyone to man up? So other people can tell people to man up just fine?
/r/MensRights28/05/14 08:27 PM
1

Yes. Kerry is a sissy little girly-boy too so he shouldn't be talking.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 08:24 PM
1

I knew it. Snowden is a sissy little girly-boy deep down.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 08:19 PM
1

Good article. This chap is mostly talking about the white supremacist, rather than the sexist, narrative, though.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 07:08 PM
2

It isn't.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 07:06 PM
1

Yep.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 10:22 AM
1

Women are cunts.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 07:59 PM
0

I really don't think so.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 07:52 PM
0

You may benefit from a professional psychiatric evaluation.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 07:51 PM
0

I'm confused. Could we start this whole thing again?
/r/MensRights26/05/14 11:31 AM
20

That's what I do every time someone hurts my feelings. What's the problem? I'm due for early release in 2039 if I'm well behaved.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 11:29 AM
-5

Fuvk off and stop being ridiculous.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 10:32 AM
7

Police. Insist on pressing charges out of motive of duty to the legitimate public interest. Fuck what anyone thinks. Believe me. You'll be angry about this for years if you don't. Your mistake was to go way to easy on her. You can correct that.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 10:28 AM
3

Yes. I think your "don't get out on the back foot" section is very good advice. Sometimes I make that mistake, but it's better to demand evidence than to deny. I would extend "don't be pleasant" to include "insult every motherfucker in sight, you asshole".
/r/MensRights26/05/14 10:26 AM
3

What will happen if you're the type who reduces everything, no matter how complex, to a binary pair of opposing categories, denoted by letters of the Greek alphabet, the better to create a spurious sense of sophistication? Will she roast your butt so hot you will wish it had never been born?
/r/MensRights26/05/14 10:18 AM
2

It's common. Think of Galileo.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 10:07 AM
1

This is a brilliant answer. Assume they will stay with you. Allow this assumption to show in your tone of voice. Set up the situation so that an "I agree," is almost automatic, but expect rejection every time. Expect to have to find a completely new set of friends. I would add, perhaps consider how many objections you will handle depending on how pushy you want to be. Maybe two would do. Then just move on immediately.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 10:06 AM
1

This is very meta. Can't we just kick the shit out of them, figuratively speaking? (Final clause added for nicemod).
/r/MensRights26/05/14 09:56 AM
1

That was a good one. Now get back to work. Customers are waiting, asshole.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 09:33 AM
1

You would answer very well to a whipping
/r/MensRights26/05/14 12:17 AM
7

I've never been taught anything of the sort. Quite the contrary. Women don't like sex. Men are not entitled to it but must earn it through eliciting the love of a good woman. Jessica Valenti, on the other hand, seems to have been taught she can make up any old shit she likes.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 12:11 AM
2

/u/yourpoopisdelicious Redditor for 26 days. Total comments: 3 First comment posted 1 day ago.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 01:49 PM
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Because according to the theory men oppress women and if men support feminists they disconfirm that theory. To resolve the dissonance, it is posed that deep down all men are violent oppressors, but that higher up some men have overcome themselves. These men are allowed admittance to the movement but are regarded with suspicion and cautioned to guard themselves against their deep down intrinsic oppressiveness. Contrariwise, women who support the MRM are welcomed precisely because they disconfirm …
/r/MensRights25/05/14 01:41 PM
1

So it's a fucking nightmare for men on campus who can't get an erection without fearing ejection. What are you smoking?
/r/MensRights25/05/14 11:20 AM
1

A cool lager for Mr. Harlan.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 11:15 AM
0

Away, scurvy companion.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 11:12 AM
1

What part were you talking about? (your lack of specificity is an indication that you're bullshitting btw). Dude! Away. Pierce is not bullshitting. He's just having a bad hair day. Go and read cotwa and note the name of the author. We'll keep your bagel for you till you get back.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 01:02 AM
1

Oh dear. Harsh. I'm not sure i approve. Better to show where the error lies or keep schtum, no?
/r/MensRights25/05/14 01:00 AM
0

S bilge of brine upon your Tweed coat, and renal failure for your goat.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 12:57 AM
1

Unconvincing.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:00 PM
0

Away with you, knave.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 07:57 PM
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Pierce is not denying that it's part of a bigger picture. The point is it's worse on campus. Staring us in the face is the glaring question why are universities even dealing with what is by all accounts the most egregious crime in the book? Ordinary criminal courts do not use the ridiculously draconian preponderance of evidence standard. Your remark on the origins of terrorist legislation stands in need of support.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 07:25 PM
0

A plague of reptiles on your living room.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 07:05 PM
1

Well, go on then. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 05:57 PM
2

I want to know what the Northern Poverty Law Center says.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 02:54 PM
-1

So why post it here? Is anybody stopping these timid little beasties from joining the discussion in this sub and openly debating the issues like men, or is that a gendered insult.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 11:34 AM
0

Fuck the fuck off you fucking fuck. "£$%<sup>&*(</sup>
/r/MensRights24/05/14 11:29 AM
1

Thanks Demonspawn, If it's not, then we will be forever stuck in the "worst of both worlds" situation while we continually attempt to implement the impossible. Perhaps we should say, if it's not, then the contradictions of the modern egalitarian project in sex relations will cause it to collapse under the weight of its own sins. I have not yet abandoned all hope for it. I agree with you that men and women are actually different. But my hope is that, given those differences, we can still negotiat…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 11:19 AM
2

Fuck off
/r/MensRights24/05/14 09:43 AM
1

Lol
/r/MensRights24/05/14 09:42 AM
-2

You sir, are the kind of person who calls people "sir" before insulting them. Please fuck off and die.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 09:41 AM
1

Exported
/r/MensRights24/05/14 09:39 AM
1

You've got a point there, but there's still something to talk about. Why did people only start looking for this phrase in 2012 apart from the spike in 2011?
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:42 AM
0

Too much already.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 12:14 AM
1

Yes. The banks collapse. I rush to Google. Have I been raped?
/r/MensRights23/05/14 11:40 PM
0

Fuck off as usual, you deeply disturbing totalitarian.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 11:38 PM
-1

Fuck off.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 10:19 PM
-1

You still at it?
/r/MensRights23/05/14 10:10 PM
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In my opinion this is an excellent contribution. I think it's very telling that people are looking more and more for this term. Did you say there is a correlation with the extent of the advancement of feminism, however you measure that? I think that would be telling too. It makes sense because you know, if you wake up in emergency recovering from concussion after being struck in the head with a heavy cast iron skillet, googling "have I been struck in the head with a heavy cast iron skillet" isn'…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 10:08 PM
0

Well yes. There are moral issues for sure. But there's also a sense in which relationship matters are indeed private and in any case, no doubt your friends can't form an impartial judgement based on your account alone. But I don't know. Are you really asking them to form a judgement? Maybe what you are doing is asking them to listen, hear, understand and then maybe, assuming your version of events is correct, give you their take on it. That's not the same as forming a judgement proper, or, as th…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 09:55 PM
0

Too much already.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 09:37 PM
4

Excellent find, thank you. How do you gain access to this data? I agree with your analysis. What do you think the spike in 2008 is about?
/r/MensRights23/05/14 09:36 PM
0

Fuck off and die motherfucker. Your brain is a souplike mixture of bull's pizzle and stale beer. Fuck a duck.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 08:29 PM
1

Suspended for a week? For tapping a girl on the shoulder? Ducking hell! What a bunch of total crap. This is violence by proxy.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 08:27 PM
1

Have you tried speaking up for your side of the story more? I'm not saying you should. I'm just wondering. Of you have, what happened? I think this is a problem for all of us. Even the best-intentioned of friends can cut you off but not all will.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 08:22 PM
1

I'm not sure, but I think there's a chance you be an annoying little putz.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 08:12 PM
3

I don't think it is terribly well written. It's typical New Yorker style. I guess that why i don't read the New Yorker much. It's clever and witty, but takes ages getting to the point. I lose interest.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 08:08 PM
1

Actually, that's what reading a few books and pausing to think does for you. Elite education just seals the approval.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 07:56 PM
1

What are you talking about? It's not rape if they get to say stop.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 07:54 PM
1

What are you talking about? It's not rape if they get to say stop.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 07:54 PM
1

It's the paedohysteria proponents who monger fear. We are complaining about the irrationality of it. What is your problem. Can't you see the difference, or are you just deliberately trying to confuse us?
/r/MensRights23/05/14 07:51 PM
1

Instead of calling me crazy why don't you Google the facts?
/r/MensRights23/05/14 07:48 PM
1

I always find that a bit victim Blamey. Either that our like telling someone not to walk on a banana skin after he's just slipped on one.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 07:47 PM
1

Pretend they are invisible? Wouldn't that risk walking into them? I cross the road to avoid them.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 07:45 PM
1

Absolutely. It's the parents who ate really terrifying, especially if they can't see everything and their imagination starts to run wild.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 07:42 PM
1

(Username). Fuck off your sorry ass. May a bull pizzle on you. And a plague of ducks on your lawn.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 06:55 PM
-1

Fuck off.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 06:45 PM
0

Fuck off.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 04:37 PM
2

Well, if you want to go with parmenides you could say everything is the same and call it "the one". But plainly there are rational egalitarian feminists from the past and deeply antirational postmodern feminists who proudly eschew equality. That is an actual theoretical difference. There may be no difference in practice though.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 02:25 PM
1

Thanks. The kid card. That's it. Good way of putting it.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 02:21 PM
0

Oh yes. You again. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 02:20 PM
2

You know, I remember my teacher wanting to kiss all the boys at the end of the day when the parents came to get us. Not all at once you understand. It was a big joke. The boys were a bit embarrassed. Who gives a fuck? Getting bullied probably scarred me for life. Getting kissed by Mrs. Jones was a whole big fat bunch of hoo ha. What is the problem here, other than inconsistency in the application of moral reprobation, of course. That I grant you.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 11:22 AM
1

Exactly. Warren talks about this very effectively in I think "the myth of make power".
/r/MensRights23/05/14 11:09 AM
0

Now we're talking. There are different types of feminists. Upvote.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 11:06 AM
3

What if man says he just wants to work part-time so he can have a life. He has no need of luxury and wants to do something worthwhile with his life instead of donating it to the corporate rat-race? What if he says to his lady you've got equality, go and earn your own jewellery, clothes, hair and cosmetics. Those are important for you not me. You want a big house? Earn it. I'm happy being frugal. And if I had money there are people more deserving of it than you anyway. I'm happy to clean house. C…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 10:46 AM
0

Fuck off.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 10:37 AM
3

Cynically fearmongering? Fuck off and die. What the fuck do you know? A man was murdered by neighbours on his own street in Bristol, England, some months ago simply for being suspected of being a paedophile. One after another old men former celebrities in their eighties are being paraded in the dock in front of everyone because they may have touched a sixteen year old on the breast outside the bra in 1974 but nobody had any real evidence and what the fuck would it matter anyway and this is after…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 10:36 AM
1

Wait. You find this astounding?
/r/MensRights23/05/14 10:10 AM
1

Yes. It is. And it becomes even more poignant and alienating when you get to the stage where if you could give the child a hug you would give him or her a thousand hugs. Who knows what the child will think: perhaps that you just aren't a loving person or that hugging a man is deviant or dangerous? And don't forget that if the mother throws you out of her life you will never be able to contact the child again without risking being suspected of being a paedophile, and the child may not know what h…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 10:08 AM
3

That's it. The backlash has begun. /s
/r/MensRights23/05/14 09:50 AM
2

Yes. I know. But I do wonder whether in general the way men tend to look after women is or tend to be different from the way women look after men? I know we don't want to go back to traditional sex roles but even as men and women share their lives as equal does each sex have something special to bring to the table that we can generally acknowledge or will each couple be so unique that no general pattern exists. I wonder whether what we mean by masculinity and femininity implies a unique way of b…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 09:48 AM
5

Yes. This is the crucial difference. We can have traditional sex roles or modern egalitarianism, but what we have now is the worst of both worlds for men. We get all the responsibilities without any of the freedom or status-reward. One or the other, please, but not this crushing, suffocating admixture of the two.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 09:37 AM
2

Yes. Thank you Diana. Now here's the thing. In nursing and perhaps in care more generally, the part time option tends to be more available. That's great. You can take care of your wonderful family. You don't have to, but you can. That is a choice for you. No one will look at you askance, leaving aside feminists for the moment. Do men have that choice? Yes and no. Yes, no one can stop us if we insist, though I think there will be barriers, such as stereotypes against men in the frankly female-dom…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 09:33 AM
1

Sorry, but no. I think it unlikely. As long as the current climate of moral panic persists the balance of the risk of an adverse outcome such as ending up in jail will and the increased financial reward you purpose will always tend against taking the risk.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 09:09 AM
50

Patriarchy asks men to protect women. Feminism asks men to protect women. What a coincidence!
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:44 PM
2

Troglodytes? Are you talking about me?
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:39 PM
1

Sorry I could have probably worded that better. I can't say that I will ever be for higher conviction rates without proper evidence but but I can't support people tarnishing the name of feminism either. Those people who want people to go to jail at the point of a finger are not feminists. Tarnishing the name... Those people are not feminists. This is a seriously awry development. Feminism has no name. Look, start again. This time tell us what feminism is at the outset. Otherwise we literally can…
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:18 PM
3

Well, I would say you have to make a judgement, of both the mother, and especially of the child. Children are individuals too. Take the risk only if you are reasonably confident the mother is not vindictive enough and the child impressionable enough and potentially hostile enough to you, and fundamentally dishonest or gullible enough to make the false accusation. Of course, the short answer is you can't defend yourself so always be mindful of the risk. But you can do things to minimise it. Never…
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:12 PM
5

Some of them can be so persuaded. But think about what that says about them. Not interested in checking claims. Not interested in interpreting in context. No patience to stop and think. Good. Let them self-select their sorry asses out of here. People like that never matter a jot. They take the path of least resistance and obey whoever is giving the loudest orders. I want to waste my time with them as much as i want to fry my fuck in an oven. You greatly underestimate the will and determination o…
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:53 PM
4

Fuck image. Work on developing as bad an image as possible, that way the only people we'll have to deal with are those who aren't influenced by image, but by rational thought and the content of ideas.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:44 PM
9

If you don't mind, i'd rather you don't try to word-police the sub.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:41 PM
1

You still at it?
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:33 PM
1

Enterprise option: Charter the fucking plane.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 12:41 PM
1

You're a SURVIVOR.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 12:40 PM
0

Too much "little guy", not enough fucking off.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 12:37 PM
1

Fuck off AMR scum. Huh? Ah yes, perhaps that needs a little explaining. Sorry Revoran, I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about our ever-present cunning observers from afar, ever-anxious to misinterpret our words the better to straw-man us. Sorry for the confusion. Be well. Take it easy. HS
/r/MensRights22/05/14 10:28 AM
1

Fuck off.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 10:20 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 10:10 AM
2

Yes. A well written piece. We need not so much safe spaces for women, as safe spaces for ideas, on campus. This is the basis of a slogan worth remembering.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 10:09 AM
1

Well, fuck anyway.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 05:17 PM
0

Again, please fuck off.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 04:48 PM
1

Do you really think so? That's sad. You're probably right.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 02:26 PM
0

Fuck off.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 02:11 PM
1

This is not a shameful question. Nor is "do women benefit from an overly large share of the family spending"? The two go together. Or to put it another way do women earn their fair share of the family income. Income minus expenses equals profit. Remember to assign a value to housework too. Also relevant is "do men get to chose as women do whether to be full time, part-time or no-time(full time home maker)"? Edit: Google keyboard messed me up again, sorry.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 01:20 PM
0

Ok then. Fuck off some more. Twat!
/r/MensRights20/05/14 05:30 PM
13

But she gets to be within arms length of those gorgeous little creatures.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 05:28 PM
2

A quick phone call should do it.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 05:27 PM
1

or at least those odious parts of it... Did you miss this part_?
/r/MensRights20/05/14 05:26 PM
1

And interesting headline news on a dull day. I'd say public sympathy would be divided.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 05:21 PM
1

Yes. I like your economy option. It is of course more in keeping with the flavour but I couldn't resist being flippant. Maybe there should be a flippancy option where the airline pays you if you allow your kid to be raped. Fuck off AMR scum. I am not advocating child trafficking and prostitution. This is what's called a joke. Humourless Nazis. Go fuck yourselves. Maybe we should call it the Greek option. Go Greek and we pay you. Hey. I said I was being flippant.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 05:16 PM
0

Hold on. Why exactly should men's rights try to demean feminism, as you put it, or dispute some of its claims as it would normally be put? Has it ever occurred to you it might be a good idea to just fuck feminism up, or at least those odious parts of it that condemn us to a life of pointless shame, misery, the annihilation of our humanity? Fuck your girlfriend and her intelligence. (I don't mean that literally)
/r/MensRights20/05/14 03:27 PM
1

Yes. Freedom from harm and freedom from offence stand as two principles guarding the opposite ends of a bipolar dimension from freedom to authoritarianism.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 03:20 PM
-1

Oh fuck off.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 03:17 PM
2

Yes. That would be ironic but it doesn't really get to the nub of the issue.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 03:12 PM
12

Stop blaming the victim.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 03:10 PM
10

Ok. Hold on. Who are these people? You are telling me wicked paedophile men get on a plane repeatedly until they wind up next to a kid in full view of other passengers and then a stewardess sits and stares at him the whole journey and still he manages the remarkable feat of interfering with them without being noticed. Guy must be a total genius. Some kind of deft sleight of hand professional. Details please. What, precisely, is entailed in interfering with kids under these conditions? How does h…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 03:09 PM
10

Surely the solution lies in oppressing them so they can't tell us where to sit on a plane. It amazes me I never thought of that before.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 02:58 PM
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Yes. There might be something to be said for negotiating. It's the difference between being told and being asked. The problem is the imposition of someone else's moral panic and hysterical fear on others that is the problem. Fine. You are a nutcase governed by an irrational fear of paedophilia, but you have no right to impose it on me any more than I have a right to prevent you eating pasta because I believe it offends the flying spaghetti monster. But if someone wants to negotiate, then fine. I…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 02:53 PM
11

I wonder what would happen if someone simply said his policy is not to move and refused to do so?
/r/MensRights20/05/14 02:36 PM
-2

More of your conversation would infect my brain.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 10:53 AM
-2

Draw your sword, you lily-livered boy.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 09:45 AM
1

Historically feminism operated through the courts and through juridical theory with Daly and McKinnon leading society and culture by the nose through changes in law.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 08:40 AM
1

Yes. I'm a bitch. I keep bitching. Not like you. Unsubscribe your sorry ass, you fucker.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 10:08 PM
3

Yes. That just about exhausts everything.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:12 PM
8

Speak on the topic? You mean, answer a straight question? Srs or amr? What happy oblivion you must enjoy.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:10 PM
3

Wait. You mean feminists think benevolent sexism keeps women down? Why didn't anybody tell me?
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:08 PM
34

Great. Let the fight back begin.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:04 PM
2

his is a very well argued piece from the legendary Thomas sowell. The only part that I am unsure about is the two paragraphs in which he talks about how the proponents of unisex living arrangements are somehow responsible for rape. I would have thought the better line to take is that rapists ate responsible for rape. But in general, every line is like an arrow and the case as a whole is like a battering ram. He simply sets aside shibboleths like the idea that women are oppressed and rape is the …
/r/MensRights19/05/14 01:35 PM
-1

Fuck off.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 12:42 AM
2

Yes. It's a lousy video really. No. Actually, I'm just jealous. I wish I could have done that. You birch! lol You know you're the reason I'm here, right?
/r/MensRights19/05/14 12:14 AM
1

Google GirlWritesWhat, JudgyBitch, and Janice Fiamengo just for starters. Come back for more later.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 10:57 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 03:40 PM
1

Yes. Hang around here. There are plenty of women speaking out against feminism, too numerous to mention.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 03:40 PM
5

It used to be women pleasuring men. Feminism reversed it. Ideally it should be people pleasuring each other.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 12:17 AM
1

This is not really a great piece of writing, to be honest. She hasn't really said what she means by women being dependant on big brother, unless she is talking about welfare moms, in which case, fair enough but we're talking about a minority here surely. But the big problem I have with the argument is the contradiction between the claim that dependence is bad when women depend on the state for their money, but good when the state depends on women for its money in taxes. At the same time there is…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 12:14 AM
1

Yes. We've all seen them, and we're all sick of them. Masturbating passengers. It gets to the stage it's almost mundane. Oh no. Not another one. I as told this by Mandy, some years back. She considered herself an anarchist feminist. She turned to Diane. "You've get them too don't you"? " Oh yes," she said. But I seem to recall she took some time warming to her task and was short on details. Was Mandy full of shit. I'd say there's a chance. She was a two-faced conniving, lying and selfish birch a…
/r/MensRights17/05/14 03:29 PM
3

Actually we do have beneficial racism. It's called affirmative action. Notice how, when we call it "beneficial racism" that counts as a condemnation. Likewise, we should be happy with the term "benevolent sexism" as use it as a pejorative. Just because some people think benevolent sexism is good, because it's good for women, doesn't mean it isn't sexism, or that it's any less bad. I've never understood the objection of this sub to the term "benevolent sexism," except that it should be made clear…
/r/MensRights17/05/14 12:16 PM
3

Yeah. I've seen this before, but it's worth the second visit. One thing to note here, and it tends to be passed over, is that even if the man was "predatory," whatever that means, the capturing of the subject's image does no conceivable actual harm to the subject, at least no more when the man takes the picture than the woman. We began as a society legislating for the prevention of harm. We have a become one legislating for the regulation of pleasure: male sexual pleasure. What are we actually c…
/r/MensRights17/05/14 11:21 AM
3

if you are acting anxious around your kids people may see this as a sign you are untrustworthy or have something to hide. Seeking professional help will do allot of good and medications can give you the ability to take back control of your life. Whilst this may be true I think we should be clear it's the people who need professional help.
/r/MensRights16/05/14 11:04 PM
1

This sounds really terrible. What has the world come to that it can get this bad for a natural father. Fuck those people at the y. This is just unbelievable. From what you say, you haven't done anything to your family. Instead, paedohysteria has fucked you up. This reminds me of a video by angry harry. I'll post the link if I find it. It seems to me this is a story that needs to be told. Also, maybe it would be a good idea to go to the boss at the y and just tell him exactly the effect that inci…
/r/MensRights16/05/14 08:48 PM
-1

That's not very nice. Have you considered you might be stinking it up yourself.
/r/MensRights16/05/14 08:37 PM
-5

Are you weary of giving voice to the same tired old invectives when boorish rubes intrude upon your serenity?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 11:55 PM
-5

Now, now. That's not nice.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:46 PM
1

Huh?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:44 PM
1

Are your pupils dilated by chance?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:18 PM
-3

I'd really like to know why she still considers herself a feminist, though. Have you considered reading the article to find out, if it's not too radical an idea?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:17 PM
-1

A dull mind imagines a single word can only have a single meaning.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:15 PM
5

If you stop thinking of feminism as a monolith this can be easily explained. She believes is social equality for women and she calls this feminism: right to work, equal pay etc. She doesn't believe in other things that pass under the title feminism. Why is that difficult to understand?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:10 PM
6

Yes. Posting in this sub is a good way of communicating with feminists.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:06 PM
1

What do you think society is afraid of now? It is said that at Salem the great was of the threat from the native Americans and the wilds of nature around them and this was projected inwards onto witches. The same with communism. There was a tremendous fear of the threat from the society union and a nuclear attack. But what is the fear now that can explain the feminist inspired witch hunts against sex predators?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 09:57 PM
1

In my experience this topic, loosely defined, has been the subject of some disagreement in these parts. Things can get a little heated. Generally the consensus does appear quite sympathetic to transgender rights. Feelings run high.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 09:46 PM
1

Yes. Indeed.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 09:39 PM
1

Do women spend too much on clothing, makeup and hair?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 11:09 AM
1

You're missing the point. If you co-opt the buzzwords you force their meaning to be examined.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 11:06 AM
1

Well it looks like a few women willing to make accusations against the entire staff could close it down tomorrow. Compromised much. Why take it seriously. It's wide open to blackmail.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 11:04 AM
3

It's still in force, but has been trumped by the prodigious evil of rape, like communism and witchcraft in the past.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:56 AM
3

Have you ever heard the McCarthy investigations called "witch hunts"? In both, accusations, whether of witchcraft or communism, were very hard to disprove. Often (as with accusations of heresy in the Middle Ages and racism today), the more a person tried to clear himself, the more he seemed in the eyes of his judges to implicate himself. In addition, people tainted by an accusation of either were expected to name others involved in the practice, and the names of those already known to be involve…
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:50 AM
1

So the main online student newspaper for Columbia?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:37 AM
2

Thanks. That articulates what I have long felt.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:30 AM
5

Will we be teaching positive femininity any time soon, or is that verbotten?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:20 AM
1

Who the fuck is BWOG? For them to do that is just ridiculous and a total blackmailer's charter. By that principle I could close it tomorrow. What are they thinking?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 10:16 AM
1

No. They want to be seen to be stopping tape so the more tape the better but they know none of these allegations would hold up so they don't want to involve the police. The Google keyboard thinks "rape" is a bad word and changes it to tape.
/r/MensRights14/05/14 03:52 PM
1

I doubt it--speaking doublespeak to doublespeakers doesn't create original speech, it just confuses the terms even more and leads to LESS understanding, not more. Rather than fighting fire with fire, we should be fighting it with water--every time a feminist says that "systemic patriarchy" exists in the west, ask which laws they mean... Or just ask how they know it isn't a matriarchy, just as much, which has the same underlying logic but a bit more rhetorical force.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 04:02 PM
0

You're the one who's blithering, whale clitoris.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 03:38 PM
0

Cream-faced loon.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 12:27 PM
-6

Fuck off pig duck.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 11:04 AM
1

No. Not in your living room. In our shared living space. Then the original shit depositors in the analogy will learn to see the problem with keeping horses in living room. Ducks as well.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 10:47 AM
4

This is total nonsense. What is called feminism is many diverse ideas. Better to pick them off individually and keep the good ones. Plainly society has transformed greatly form the traditional past and party of that has been liberating for women.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 10:40 AM
-1

Do you mind if I upvote you to hell?
/r/MensRights13/05/14 10:36 AM
2

In other words, everything they say is bullshit. Don't be such a thoughtless duck. Let me explain the beauty of this proposal. It will force feminists to defend rather than blithely assume the patriarchy trope and associated shibboleths.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 10:32 AM
1

This is a thing of beauty.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 10:28 AM
1

Too many solutions. Not enough problems. What to do?
/r/MensRights12/05/14 05:37 PM
1

It was at 11 earlier. I should have taken a screen cap. Also other voting remains implausible in party's of that thread.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 05:35 PM
2

Oh go on. Be a devil.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:11 PM
2

I fucking love fat women. What's the problem?
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:10 PM
1

Just a thought, what is stopping you placing one foot deliberately in front of the other in the direction of the door, passing through the doorway and staying somewhere else at least for one night? Might not be a bad idea.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:04 PM
1

I also think we need a way of assessing the consensus on comments between ourselves and brigading throws that off.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:00 PM
1

Yes. That's what I think as well. But some may find it off-putting and them there's the question of inconsistency of treatment. BTW, I notice the referenced comment is now at minus two so who knows. It was 11 earlier. The general point remains.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 03:47 PM
3

It may discourage commenting
/r/MensRights12/05/14 03:28 PM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/253dib/muslim_woman_destroys_feminism/
/r/MensRights12/05/14 03:28 PM
3

Except when we do it in someone else's sub then we get shadow banned. But that's alright. Voting has zero effect. Calm down. Stop making a fuss about nothing. Just lie down while we walk all over you.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 03:21 PM
1

A day or two ago there was a video of a Muslim lady giving a talk against feminism which she characterised as a gender privilege movement rather than a gender equality movement. This was a great resume of all our arguments and complaints, however she then went on to argue for a return to gender traditionalism under sharia law. Most of us reject this. If you want a synopsis of our views the first part of the video may be helpful. Unfortunately it won't be much good for showing the kids unless you…
/r/MensRights12/05/14 03:18 PM
0

I know we get brigaded but this is completely fucking ridiculous. If we are made so scared of the ban hammer we can't even follow an np link for fear of forgetting not to vote, how is it the admins will do nothing to stop this obvious harassment and brigading? Why does it scare these Stalinist scum that we are talking amongst ourselves anyway?
/r/MensRights12/05/14 02:18 PM
-3

No. An add hominem is when you add homily to nemesis. This is just me calling you fucking crazy. No. I don't want a nice conversation. I want a plague of ducks on your back yard.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:23 PM
0

Lol. Very good. I like that. Lol. Troll.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:20 PM
-7

Maybe you need your head professionally examined.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 07:23 PM
-4

OK. Yeah. We'll stop linking to them because an anonymous lurker says it's "not cool, guys". Thanks for your help. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 07:19 PM
0

Fuck off illiterate troll-caller. You are the troll.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 01:34 PM
2

Ok. If I understand you correctly your statement was not meant to be about men exclusively but about men and women equally? Agreed. This use of the term "circlejerking" strikes me invariably as a lazy, anti-intellectual cliché. It is used as a kludge to banish the free discussion of ideas, all too often. It sets up a false dichotomy between thinking and doing. It is a crude term for a crude mind. If you could please stop using it and think. Ideas are power. New ideas, once accepted, don't cause …
/r/MensRights10/05/14 11:01 PM
1

So you're an MRA? Hardly. You're just saying we're wasting our time anyway. Well, maybe we should be raising a private army and storming the Whitehouse, is that it? Or do you think we should be taking to the streets?
/r/MensRights10/05/14 08:24 PM
0

I refuse. I liked the challenge in the OP's question. I've presently got a baldy-headed private security guard looking at me anyway. I've got more important things to worry about, especially since this is a public library. Has there been a coup? Maybe he posts in MR. Now there are two of them. Maybe I should make a run for it.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 02:10 PM
32

That's actually Warren Farrell holding up the big sign, the one on the far right of the picture.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 02:05 PM
1

Stop pecking at my fedora.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 10:39 AM
1

Now that is a fascinating reply. What sort of goose?
/r/MensRights10/05/14 10:23 AM
0

Don't call people trolls just because they disagree. If there is something in his posting history I should know, tell me. I'll draw my own conclusions.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 10:18 AM
3

Are you saying I should be strong to get what I want or that we should be strong and proactive to advance the cause of the MRM?
/r/MensRights10/05/14 10:13 AM
3

You say a man overcomes any adversity to get the job done and earns the success he deserves. This is good, but you didn't say what's wrong with applying it to persons in general. Women may overcome adversity differently. Or they may not. But the point is feminism has changed society so that women have new ways of overcoming adversity. It continues to bind men in various traditional ways, however. One of them is this sit down shut up and stop complaining expectation you extol. But actually, by se…
/r/MensRights10/05/14 10:05 AM
1

I'm upvoting because it's a good topic of discussion. Stop whining about us winning.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 09:42 AM
3

All i see in you is a gender traditionalist. We believe in the transformation of gender and in equality of opportunity for each. I'm off to feed the ducks. PS. All of us except for a few, that is. I'm a wuss and proud. What are you going to do about it? I'm man enough to not care what you think.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 09:42 AM
2

Very interesting video. Thanks for posting.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 10:57 PM
1

Interesting. Thanks.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 10:57 PM
2

Well, I've only got 3.5 minutes in and I have to stop and just say this thing is so fantastic it seems to be a brilliant resume of everything we have been saying all along, all packed in very concisely and persuasively. I'm now reading comments that she later reveals herself as an Islamic traditionalist. Oh dear. Well, I guess we could still use the first part so long as it doesn't entail traditionalism.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 10:48 PM
1

Work is needed.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 03:39 PM
2

Why? What are you going to do about it? [Glower]
/r/MensRights09/05/14 03:38 PM
-5

Yo dude! I already conceded that point and got my fedora involved. You lighten up. I'll lighten up when I want to. Meanwhile life's a bitch, duck brain.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 11:50 AM
2

A weak and tiresome cliché.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 10:33 AM
1

If you need it, you don't have it.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 10:30 AM
0

Oh that? Not the other?
/r/MensRights09/05/14 10:00 AM
-2

Strictly correct. Like a gentleman I concede this point. I raise my fedora to you.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 09:59 AM
0

What
/r/MensRights09/05/14 09:57 AM
2

Cryptic. WTF?
/r/MensRights09/05/14 09:55 AM
13

There is this.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 09:54 AM
0

Dude! An argument requires at least a premise and a conclusion. A question is just not an argument no matter how tendentious a definition of "argue" you reach for. Obviously it has other meanings but we're talking about what a "straw man" could be if you recall so it will have to have a certain level of formality. After you went off with your bluster i just stopped reading. I've stuff to do. It hasn't been a pleasure. No more from me on this fuckwitted corner of this thread. Stubborn, stupid blo…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 09:48 AM
1

Comment is being processed... If this text stays for more than 1 minute, please flag it. Huh?
/r/MensRights09/05/14 09:42 AM
2

Who the fuck is downvoting this? Running scared, huh?
/r/MensRights09/05/14 12:31 AM
32

That's fucking outrageous. All men are rapists? Fuck off. No. I'm not a rapist. I never raped anybody. This shit, however, has been fucking with my mind all my life: mind rape.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 12:29 AM
0

A fallacy is a kind of argument, so you do need to make an argument to make a logical fallacy. Did you not read my comment? What is wrong with you? Can't you read, or do you just not want to? If you have read, can't you reply to what I've written. If you can't, or won't, what is the point of my writing even this?
/r/MensRights09/05/14 12:21 AM
1

Well, exactly. That's why sources would be so interesting though, because that certainly wasn't my experience.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 07:28 PM
1

No. Mine was not a straw man argument because it wasn't even an argument. I notice you haven't replied to that point so I assume you can't. Too bad. Your comment, if you look, contains the word 'because'. This makes it into an argument of the form IF something THEN something else. The Latin name for this form is modus ponens, the simplest form there is. But here's the thing: it is an argument because it contains a premise, the bit after the IF, "something", and a conclusion, the bit after the TH…
/r/MensRights08/05/14 07:24 PM
1

Bastard!
/r/MensRights08/05/14 07:02 PM
2

Are you talking about huffpo?
/r/MensRights08/05/14 05:30 PM
2

I'd be interested in sources. If the ones mentioned were truly remotely concerns of feminists there ought to be mention of them in the literature from before MRAs brought them up.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 05:27 PM
2

This piece seems eminently sensible.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 02:50 PM
2

I'm not sure what you mean by the remark in parentheses? In what sense did you hear about them from feminists? Male circumcision, opposition to?
/r/MensRights08/05/14 01:56 PM
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Feminism does not, and should never, fight to raise women up while putting men down. It aims to make us all equal, in all aspects of life. This means eliminating pay disparitybetween the sexes for the same job, no matter the industry. This means the inclusion of changing rooms in men's bathrooms because men are parents too. This means making sure that women are not immediately blamed in the event of a rape, told they shouldn't have worn that outfit or had that drink or been to that party. This m…
/r/MensRights08/05/14 11:17 AM
3

Yes. Paglia has always been a notorious contrarian and provocatreuse, and Hoff-summers is bit too traditionalist for my taste too. But you know, we're all, most of us, dissident feminists really. Every single female I named was one a feminist. Look, feminism is all things to all men. I'm a ducking feminist. Half the people named are by their own lights. People on this board hate it, and feminists hate it, but actually most of us just want equal rights for men as human beings and for women as hum…
/r/MensRights08/05/14 10:51 AM
2

Actually, I don't agree with this joke. I don't want anybody fucking me because I'm rich, though I do wish some women would stop being such whores.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 10:12 AM
1

I don't even know why I'm reading that.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 10:07 AM
4

Good piece. Thanks posting.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 10:02 AM
9

Both are equally weak in death.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 09:58 AM
-3

Your mind has been turned to mush by the power of the corporate media.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 12:12 AM
-9

12,000 every day is a red herring. Do some arithmetic. The o other one, if anything, is the red herring.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 07:20 PM
-9

The experiment requires that you continue.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 07:17 PM
6

Some context here. The leading lights in terms of public visibility, leaving out a voice for men website, are in no particular order, Janet Bloomfield, Allison Tieman, Janice Fiamengo, Karen Straughan and Warren Farrell. Only one is a man. There's also Paul Elam, pierce Harlan, angry Harry and a few other male bloggers. But then there are also Christina Hoff-Summers, Camille Paglia, Errin Pizzey as strong female voices questioning the dominant feminist narrative. So plenty of women. If anything …
/r/MensRights07/05/14 07:15 PM
0

Note to self: possessive 'its' takes no apostrophe.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 06:51 PM
-12

That's a straw man. Fuck off and stop wasting my time.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 05:58 PM
1

Isn't that a bit recursive?
/r/MensRights07/05/14 05:44 PM
-7

A straw man is a fallacy. A fallacy is an argument. Mine is not an argument, it's a question. You're jumping the gun. Answer the question and see where I go.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 05:30 PM
1

Their writings spread the message that women are trying to control or humiliate men, or are mostly focused on taking men’s money. This will have to stop.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 05:25 PM
-1

Their writings spread the message that women are trying to control or humiliate men, or are mostly focused on taking men’s money. This will have to stop.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 05:25 PM
-6

12000 children die every day of starvation or starvation-related illness according to UNICEF. what do you want done about that?
/r/MensRights07/05/14 05:20 PM
0

I think that's pendulum, not pendant. But you know what I'm like.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 04:59 PM
0

I find this fair. I accept it completely and always have. So you've got this fantasy of loss of control. What is it's connection to actual loss of control? I am not a total duckfoot so you won't have to explain bdsm to me like I'm ten. What is it's connection to actual loss of control?
/r/MensRights07/05/14 04:56 PM
11

Easy to diagnose. Projection. She is ashamed of herself for wanting to be wanted by men. Happens all the time. Just an extreme example.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 03:16 PM
2

lol. I try to hang loose when I can.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 12:35 PM
0

Well, this information you talk about can be reformatted into a single essay and posted here as a single autograph. I will look at it. If you think I'm going to go looking for it otherwise, no way. I'm as lazy as fuck. I don't care what you do. I'm just the silly penguin in the corner. That's it. No more from me on this.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 10:28 AM
2

The differences are syntactic, not semantic. The semantic content of all the terms remains the same. The sign used to denote the content changes. This is a syntactic, not a semantic, change. And no, I'm not being semantic. I'm not even being pedantic. I'm just picking on you as I've had it with this term being misused. Please pass it along.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 10:16 AM
0

Even if it is a bait question, the test of which is the state of someone else's mind, there's no reason we can't answer the question as it stands. The answer should serve to clarify our position. I think it's simple to answer anyway. See my other comments.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 10:07 AM
0

Suggest you write an essay length piece on this and post it here or post a link to it. Sounds interesting. Write a full exposition of it as clearly and reasonably as you can. Examine all the pros and cons. Belabour the obvious. Go on. You know you can. Then we can all pile in on you. You never know, some of us may even be persuaded. What do you think? For my part, I was just trying to answer this question that keeps coming up and that I think relies on a simple confusion as I tried to explain. B…
/r/MensRights07/05/14 10:00 AM
1

Shoot. You are right. Don't know what I was thinking. For some reason I had it on the Saudi peninsula. Thanks for correcting that brain blipper. I'll crawl back into my hole now. This does slightly increase the chance there may be some people from Brunei here, but as you say, it remains slim. A big welcome to all.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 09:41 AM
0

You're starting to get the idea.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 01:26 AM
-1

Yes. Welcome to all. And exactly the same question applies to them. Only to members for the state of Brunei are things otherwise. Are there any? There may be. But the chances are slim. Most will be on Arabic forums. How many will be in this subreddit? Not many really.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 01:25 AM
1

Dude! 12,000 children under the age of 10 died of starvation or starvation-related illness since this time yesterday, according to UNICEF. Are you going to put your life on the line to stop that as well? Your mind has been turned to mush most likely by the New York Times. Here is something that you can do something about because the US is sponsoring the fascist government committing the atrocities. Children died and people were killed by "demonstrators" not by fire. The media silence on this is …
/r/MensRights06/05/14 11:56 PM
1

Pertinent. Thanks.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 11:35 PM
-1

Make fun of you? You'll be lucky. I'll almost certainly tell you to fuck off. What have you been smoking?
/r/MensRights06/05/14 11:34 PM
-4

I yawn because you're not up to my level of debate. I'm sorry about that. If only you would think, rather than misrepresent. I choose my words carefully and you're simply not reading them and then replying to something that's not there. Have you any idea how tedious that is? Insults don't hurt.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 09:42 PM
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I'm still yawning. Dipshit was a tad declasse.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 09:21 PM
-4

No that's not it. Consistency requires we let others participate in making our laws. Please try harder. Yawn.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 09:11 PM
0

Don't worry. That's OK.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 09:00 PM
-2

Actually I'm inclined to agree with this. Don't worry about what I wrote if it's too subtle.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 09:00 PM
-1

Not excusable by whom? I'm not trying to excuse it, BTW.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 08:57 PM
1

Now you're being ambiguous. What precisely is your problem? I answered the op. You seem unhappy with my answer. You want me to answer some other question. I'm getting tired of indulging you. I've been quite patient so far. Maybe time to tell you to fuck off. Instead of trying to put words in my mouth why not read what I write?
/r/MensRights06/05/14 08:44 PM
1

Good. I take it you are now satisfied.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 08:24 PM
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That's an interesting reply. It has consequences if you want to be consistent. Can you what any of them are?
/r/MensRights06/05/14 08:11 PM
1

No, i'm saying she's as responsible for not taking steps to diminish the likelihood of the adverse outcome as the outcome is predictable. I'm neutral on its predictability. I didn't think this was terribly difficult for a sympathetic observer to understand. What seems to be the problem?
/r/MensRights06/05/14 08:08 PM
1

What is the point in telling someone they are responsible for not taking steps to prevent something that they didn't know was going to happen, if they knew it was going to happen, do you not think they would have taken the steps, or do you believe they knew it was going to happen but opted not to prevent it? Correct. We are only responsible for predictable outcomes.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 07:56 PM
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Thanks for your first two paragraphs. Though I have to take your word for it, they offer a great answer to my perfectly genuine question. To add to it, i suggest we could protest outside these hotels. Good. Well done. No thanks for the rest. You let yourself down by making the very common error of failing to read. Please try again. You will find I did not ask whether it is or should be any of our concern. See if you can spot the subtle but important difference between that and what i did ask. It…
/r/MensRights06/05/14 07:51 PM
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Unless you're from Brunei, stop being ridiculous. I said nothing about the US. You are the one assuming. It is, however, obviously anglophone.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 05:09 PM
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Is it our fault what they choose to do in Brunei? Hardly. We are morally responsible only for what we can prevent. What can we do in our countries to diminish the likelihood of this barbarism? Genuine question. Practical question. Another more theoretical question. To what extent ought we to be able to legislate for others.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 04:58 PM
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Actually, how bad is getting drunk and having sex, on a scale of one to ten, where one is perfectly delightful and ten is the worst that can happen to someone? Only a rape apologist would ask?
/r/MensRights06/05/14 04:50 PM
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This oft mentioned conundrum is not so hard. The rapist alone is responsible for the rape. The people who could have taken steps to prevent it or reduce its likelihood but didn't are responsible for that. This may include the drunkard, in that capacity. Only a victim of a lifetime of femibabble would even see a problem to be solved. Our minds have been turned to mush.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 04:45 PM
0

Oh, I see. When I re-read it now that you say that, I get the sarcasm at once. I am a big fat idiot. I blame it on other people.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 03:51 PM
0

If he needs permission from me, I don't allow him. Think about it.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 03:48 PM
0

Missing word: "allegedly". Sorry to piss on your fireworks.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 09:47 AM
0

Sorry. The third link.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 09:07 PM
-1

Creeping sophistication.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 08:22 PM
-1

You're not allowed to debate if you need permission. Fuck you for asking. Projection much. On abortion, the consensus, I think is something like "my body my choice". I fucked her with my body; I should get some choice. Fine, she can have an abortion, but do I get to choose a childcare support payments abortion, or is that just, you know, ridiculous? I'm a fucking man. Get over myself already, abandon my life's plan, shut up and earn the money and give it all to her because, um, she has a body. A…
/r/MensRights05/05/14 07:42 PM
1

I'm getting a big 404 on the second link.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 07:14 PM
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There is a touch of simplification in the alpha/beta binary. Perhaps you should, as UmBongo requests, fuck off with it. How about a gracious acknowledgement, even, that the model is simplified.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 03:43 PM
1

I know it's tedious, but could you just point me in the direction of a little supporting evidence for that. I'm sure you're right. I just never heard it before, and others may be interested too. Why make them all reach for google? Save them a step or two and post links to your evidence here. It shouldn't be that hard, since you seem so sure.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 03:40 PM
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YO. FUCKFACE. JUST WHAT exactly IS YOUR PROBLEM? I WAS ASKING /u/freads in an effort to clarify his position. Just what makes you think i want YOUR OPINION? It's got nothing to do with understanding our not understanding what society is you ignorant fuck. It was a simple, polite, courteous question. Don't be such a clattermouth jumping on my case just for asking a question. Fuck off and die. And then die some more.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 09:42 AM
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Yes. It's weird.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 01:49 AM
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They've as much right to comment and vote there as we have, no? I don't know.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 01:47 AM
1

This outrage must be stopped.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 04:01 PM
5

Parody.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 03:59 PM
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Because they were school kids. That's why. I see. So school kids should be punished for having sex because having sex is bad for them. Is that it?
/r/MensRights04/05/14 03:24 PM
0

Personally, I love a good gang bang, pretty much any chance I can get.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 12:30 PM
-1

Why?
/r/MensRights04/05/14 12:27 PM
1

I think the thing that is going on here is we have, or they have, this idea that women don't like sex. It's something that men like, that is intrinsically wicked, and that men do to women. This woman loves to get some cock. That's a problem for people who want to keep believing the twaddle. So. What to do. Well, you could finesse it like this. The child obviously has something wrong with her. We don't know what. Maybe she was abused as a child. Maybe she's just, I don't know, a little weak of mi…
/r/MensRights04/05/14 12:22 PM
0

I honestly think the fact that this was such an elite school has something to do with it.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 12:02 PM
0

Yes. I did rather enjoy that. Kind of got me salivating.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 12:00 PM
0

Unconsciously sexist?
/r/MensRights04/05/14 02:35 AM
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Great article. I love the way this barrister presents her case.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 01:21 PM
0

I've had a look at this book. So far as I can tell on a cursory glance, its thesis is that sexual continence through social regulations is associated with social energy, and leads to a more productive and rationalistic society. But I'll have to look at it more closely. Quite a crusty old volume.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 04:11 PM
0

Think of the children.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 03:18 PM
0

Now that's progress. Will they have anti-paedophile security guard as well?
/r/MensRights02/05/14 10:58 AM
0

Why yes. I am a little angry.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 10:54 AM
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One is more than enough trouble. But seriously, this is about Kenya. In Islam polygamy is permitted. The prophet dude was a rare old polygamist and in heaven they get loads of virgins if they're well behaved. No donuts i'm afraid. This will only affect us if the question comes up of whether to tolerate bigamy in minority ethnic cultures in our society because of, um, multiculturalism. Yep. Watch our for that one. I think we will unite with feminism on that detail.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 10:51 AM
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Could have been a high rising terminal. We get those a lot round here from mixed messaging valley girl princesses.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 02:12 AM
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Fuck you and your boundaries. Make up your mind what you want and be honest about it. Mixed messages aren't boundaries; they're mindfuckeries.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 02:09 AM
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I don't really feel like arguing.
/r/MensRights01/05/14 08:39 PM
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Don't pull that "i'm a girl; you couldn't possibly understand" crap on me. Janet Bloomfield is definitely a girl and she understands just fine. So does Karen Straughan. The difference is they're honest with themselves. I notice you haven't addressed my analogy of answered my question. Standard evasion. Instead you've changed the charge from "undermined my decision" to "it's rude". Fuck off. Can't you see this precious "you must be polite to victim ladies" bs is exactly the kind of trick used to …
/r/MensRights01/05/14 08:19 PM
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I don't understand that either. How did they undermine your decision my hoping you would change? I've just had a call from corporate brand marketing who spent about half an hour doing just that with me. I don't feel in the last undermined. My decision remained firm. What's wrong with "I like you; do you like me?" "Yes" "would you like to fuck?" "No". "Oh, ok". Is that too much to cope with?
/r/MensRights01/05/14 02:56 PM
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Neither do I. What do we owe women? What do they owe us? We each live free. Now if she lends me some money I owe it to her and vice versa and the same for the loan of anything of value. Otherwise no. I agree with the poster. What's the problem here? If anything, the problem is very many women think their men owe them a living.
/r/MensRights01/05/14 02:08 PM
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It's our guess that Prof. Davis could find "inequalities" and "marginalization" in a ham sandwich. It's quite striking that you failed to notice the obvious marginalisation of Jews and Muslims in your crass use of a forbidden meat ingredient in this example. Readers can draw their own conclusions about the kind of deeply hegemonic, exclusionary, monocultural, logocentric, totalitarian, oppressive person you really are. I draw your attention to the dominant narrative of power it perpetuates and t…
/r/MensRights29/04/14 03:34 PM
-1

You sick sausage!
/r/MensRights29/04/14 03:10 PM
0

I see. That's very interesting. Thanks.
/r/MensRights29/04/14 08:09 AM
1

Sounds like you're in equality nirvana.
/r/MensRights29/04/14 12:13 AM
0

Do just living as equals with shared responsibilities for the bills and chores?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 11:56 PM
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You say "after my current relationship ends", as if it's on some kind of fixed schedule. By the fact of its existence I think you've answered your own question, but you're pessimistic about it in general.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 11:55 PM
0

So in your view we should conform to traditional gender roles out of a motive of concern for society based on an evaluation of history? Any man who chooses to earn little and enjoy his leisure is a freak of nature. Do you have no hair and work as a security guard, by chance?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 11:17 PM
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You're making the assertion men should have a role. It's on you to justify that, not on me to justify the contrary. I'm guessing you understand by the term role an obligation or constraint that society places on us. Maybe that's just what it means. I don't want to argue about that and I guess further that you reject the idea that we should be so constrained. But let me broaden it out. In what ways do you see men fitting into society if traditionally they fitted in as breadwinners for the family …
/r/MensRights28/04/14 10:40 PM
0

So men can pursue fatherhood by adoption and respectably be inventors, creators or educators. And we should celebrate those MGTOW men who choose to have low income, high leisure lifestyles. But does this lifestyle necessarily entail going your own way? There seems to be an assumption there that married men, or those in a relationship, ought to be more like full-time workers, or at least more than merely self-sufficient.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 10:21 PM
0

Just to die? Not to live afterwards?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 10:03 PM
0

What way do you think society would work and what role should or could men play within it?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 10:00 PM
0

So our role has been defined by evolution to earn big money, which makes us more attractive mates, though this is dissolving due to further evolution. That's what I would call a description rather than a prescription regarding our role. But what role, if any, do you think men ought to play, now that the traditional role is dissolving.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:56 PM
0

OK. That's how things are now, but how ought they to be? Can you see any role for a man in relation to a woman other than working for her?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:44 PM
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So the role of men is not to earn for their family, though you are scornful of those who depend on their wives, but instead to pursue their passions and goals and play an active part in the life if any children. Would you be equally scornful of a woman who depends on her husband? I guess I'm also wondering how you would resolve any conflict between your personal pursuits and the demands of your wife. At what point would you say to her, "that's it; I've done enough; fuck off and give me some peac…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:36 PM
0

So you're happy to define your life in terms of providing for your family but you don't see it as necessarily something a man should do.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:16 PM
0

So women have a value just by existing, and that value is primarily concerned with reproduction. Men have value only by doing, and since the primary function of human life is not reproduction, but higher pursuits like math, science, engineering, philosophy, art, construction and history, the role of men is in these pursuits rather than in serving women in reproduction. Is that a fair summary?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:10 PM
0

So you see no role at all in society for men as men, rather you see a role for individual human beings, but one they must define for themselves. Is that correct? And a role, for you, is a designation society imposes on you, and you reject the right of society to do that.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 07:49 PM
-1

Why shouldn't they?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 07:16 PM
0

Sure. That's good but it leaves another question in place of the first. Your role is to provide for your family in what way? I'm not assuming or trying to suggest any answers, I hope you and others will understand. I just want to ask the question.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 07:12 PM
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I have screencaps of this exercise from different top level domains on my computer at home and will post them later when i get home. I am not making this stuff up. I don't search for the term cis, but even if I did it would be in my own national TLD but not others.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 07:04 PM
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Nope. Press the space bar after the 's'. Surprised you don't know this, considering how you can save, upload and link a screencap and all. Do I really have to do this for you? It's getting tiresome. Interested observers can just try it in their own browsers. Also you can try different domains by changing the suffix, eg "Google.co.uk", and so forth.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 04:06 PM
0

To be fair, she can be sure she's not abusing her own kids, do I'm not sure this detail helps our side in this particular discussion. It's really interesting though that airlines allow parents to sit beside their kids. Just mulling this over. What would happen if a man were to successfully sue an airline for letting a mother abuse his child, or vice versa. Would they supply the same reasoning to ban parents sitting beside their kids? Now this is just hypothetical, but just thinking about it make…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 03:52 PM
-3

Have you considered pressing the space bar after the 's', you pernicious little ratbastard?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 03:39 PM
2

Yes. The more fundamentalist Muslims tend to insist on sex segregation. In societies like Saudi Arabia, Oman and Yemen, girls sit at the back in class. In more liberal Muslim societies this is not the case. At the university of London, fundamentalists have been trying to impose sex segregation at panel discussions about Islam, even though they are open to a secular student audience. Even in the most liberal Muslim societies you don't see women in cafés ever. Women also usually have their own ent…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 03:34 PM
7

I don't know. What do you think?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 03:22 PM
1

Lol. And then some more lol.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 03:08 PM
0

Don't quite know what we're supposed to do with this. "Men never commit domestic violence," is not my position.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 03:04 PM
1

Surprising omissions include Janice Fiamengo, warren Farrell, Janet Bloomfield, Karen Straughan and Alison Tieman. And me.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 02:40 PM
7

Lol. Good point. That pretty much wraps it up.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 02:35 PM
7

Thanks
/r/MensRights28/04/14 01:50 PM
1

Bullshit. No such thing as equality before the law?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 01:49 PM
6

Independence for women and removal of the obligation to provide and protect for men. Strong women. No automatic victim status. No automatic i don't have to be rational status. Shared responsibilities. The problem now is women have their independence but have kept their sweet victim moral superiority status. Men are still burdened with the expectations of traditional society to provide and protect and to be the sexual initiator in which role they can never be innocent. This is not my final answer…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 01:47 PM
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Autocomplete is based on terms actual people actually search for. What's not proper about that? If you want do more research go ahead. Let us know what you find. The rest of your comment is irrelevant for reasons too obvious to mention.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:50 PM
-1

Right. You have no problem with non-trans? Nobody is invalidated? Is that correct? But still you want to be an ass and insist on a flimsy Latinate nobody understands except as a term of abuse and you'd rather hold your nose than look at the evidence of how it's used. How many ways can I tell you to fuck off?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:46 PM
0

Well, if you can't answer an apposite counter-example best just to downvote.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:35 PM
-1

Personally, I'd be happy with 'non-trans'. Does that hurt somebody's transfeelz? Are we feeling invalidated?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:33 PM
-1

Nobody is trying to invalidate trans men. Why do you take it that way? Are you trans? Do you feel invalidated? What is about 'cis' that makes you feel valid? Check Google autocomplete and see how valid people who use it think those it denotes are.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:19 PM
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Because it is used to offend. Try Google autocomplete. Stop being so ridiculous. "Nigger' just means black. No problem there I'm sure. "Queer" is just the opposite of normal. What's the problem? Watch the furies screech if we try to call ourselves 'normal'. Fucking ridiculous, this whole thing. Get out of my face with this 'cis' bullshit.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:10 PM
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The word means what people use it to mean. Don't be so fucking ridiculous. Type it into Google and check your auto complete. And what the fuck is all this perverse vote brigading and hostility towards something all MRAs find pretty abhorent? What is that about. There seems to be great determination by a tiny minority to turn normal into weird. Talking chemistry is neither here nor there.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:03 PM
1

Yes it is. Try calling me a nigger.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 11:57 AM
-1

Yes. Just type cis into Google and see what autocomplete suggestions you get. Judging by its use, it is quite obviously a pejorative.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 11:54 AM
1

Yes. I can't wait. I'm weak with anticipation.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:45 AM
3

Paedohysteria mediated through adults to children, who are keenly aware of the fear. FEAR F. False E. Evidence A. Appearing R. Real
/r/MensRights27/04/14 10:57 PM
4

But she's sweet. She's precious. You should tend to her needs. Intersectional -ity.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 09:44 PM
0

Well spotted mister fifth. I raise my fedora to ya.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 09:42 PM
0

It's punctuation rather than grammar. Check your second word. Terribly sorry old chap. I am quite ready for shooting. I know.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 09:30 PM
1

Stare raping has been identified as a thing, evidently.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 08:03 PM
90

I think I agree with it except for the sudden male-shaming, which seems to occur mostly in the last sentence. I'm a big fan of women wearing whatever they want. But why do they keep complaining when i like how they look. Doesn't her logic apply both ways. Besides, it's mostly women who scold other women for what they [don't] wear. I just think it's a matter of accepting consequences. Personally, I'd be happy if they all walked around naked, but you know, i'm just a misogynist.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 08:02 PM
5

Does anything mean "yes"? I'll keep checking my inbox.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:53 PM
0

If you're interested, I may be able to get you a special deal on that.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:51 PM
1

More like insouciance rape. Evidently there was no enthusiasm. Cry me a river.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:48 PM
-1

Aren't you victim-of-false-allegation blaming now?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:45 PM
0

Thanks. That's much better. But remember: possessive "your" takes no apostrophe.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:43 PM
-1

Exactly!
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:40 PM
0

Rather poor.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:32 PM
0

Steady now. Blasphemy.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:31 PM
1

Look harder.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:30 PM
2

Beautiful
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:29 PM
0

That's what Karen Straughan said and Naomi Wolff called it "rape apology". You really need to keep up.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:28 PM
0

You missed "if", dumb fuck. I know. It's such a small word you would hardly notice it. How would anyone expect a dumb blond to see it. Conditional logic is too much for a mere woman to grasp. Is that it? Funny thing is we've got Fiamengo, Bloomfield, Tieman and Straughan: four women who grasp it perfectly well. Maybe they're just less self-serving and dishonest than you are. Or is logic just phallocentric and gendered?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:26 PM
0

Keep going. I like it.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:17 PM
1

You fucking confused bitching conniving piece of mindfuckery. Where are you doing your degree? Educate yourself on basic logic. If something is it cannot not be. If something is binary it can't also be not binary. If rape is sex without consent and consent isn't binary then rape can't be binary. Is your brick for a brain incapable of seeing that? So it's not "rape is rape; no grey area". It's "rape isn't binary; it's not either totally rape or not rape at all". We've been saying that all along a…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:15 PM
0

You mean fake orgasm rape culture? Yes. That's very real. But fake orgasm rape is not a thing.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:04 PM
1

Yep. You got it in a nutshell. A NUTSHELL I TELL YOU!
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:02 PM
-1

Hey! If she wanted a discussion she shouldn't have banned her over on Facebook. Too late to get your tits out now! Fuck off, psycho! "Cry me a river," is, I think, the preferred expression.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 06:58 PM
2

Well observed. What should we call this variety of rape? Fake orgasm rape?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 06:54 PM
2

You go girl ~`••••••√√√√√
/r/MensRights27/04/14 06:53 PM
0

I'm confused. Sarcasm? Why? What is your point anyway? Very unsympathetic. EDIT: Oh is see. You are a psychobitch. Can I get you something to drink? Sorry about the smell. I've been cleaning the bathroom.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 06:40 PM
1

In the hope that she reads them. What about me? Anyway, thanks for doing by. I'm sad about her dad? Does that really do it to a girl? My mom had some bad history. Also, know of one who never knew dad. Mother says he just wanted to travel. All there is is a photo. Terribly sweet girl. Dragon of a mother. Don't know what happened. Do you think that would turn her against men? I hope not. Serious question.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:51 PM
-2

Progress, dear, not progression. Too many back formations. Puh-leeze.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:45 PM
101

Or pay for the vacant seat.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 11:57 AM
0

Holy schmoly! That needs a double shot for sure. I'll get back to it later.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 11:09 AM
-2

This is interesting but difficult. Will need double espresso. Was just wondering, would it be possible for a man to fuck a woman without enthusiasm? Is that relevant? I think I've actually done it a few times. One time I fell asleep with her on top. Oh goodness me no. I've been raped. I need help. She was pretty upset about it too.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 11:05 AM
-2

You're good at this.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 10:54 AM
3

Do you repeat that with every thrust?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 10:49 AM
3

Oh ffs. It you're not a total moron you'll know if she consents. Why is it that our sophisticated capacity for primitive, tactile, manual, facial and verbal communication suddenly becomes high level autism when it comes to sex. You are allowing these people to fuck with your mind. At some level, anyone who can't figure out that she doesn't want it just doesn't care.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 10:48 AM
0

Explain. I didn't think it was an argument. I thought it was just a description of the recent history of ideas.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 09:45 AM
0

Fuck off and eat turtles.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 08:12 AM
0

"Is", not " are". Grammar please. We're very easily offended.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 08:10 AM
0

I'm sorry. Privilege is in a meeting. Is there anyone else who could help you?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:59 AM
-1

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Orange sauce goes nicely with ducks.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 01:14 AM
5

Janet Bloomfield aka JudgyBitch. Don't forget her.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 12:49 AM
0

Except for the first one, I would have thought they could be, yes. Did I miss something? I thought that was the whole point of the article. What do you think.? Legal codes will vary, but I'm not aware of one that denies there can be consent without a verbalised 'yes'. If i'm wrong, quote me the law. Feminists, on the other hand, are another case. If you haven't heard of the Antioch rules Google them now. They were widely ridiculed, though. Fiamengo mentioned them in her talk. But they seem to be…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 12:18 AM
-1

There is no law, except for the first one. Is there something you're not getting here? These levels are implied by feminist redefinitions, not the law, yet.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 12:01 AM
0

Thanks. Useful summary. I haven't been around that long.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 11:58 PM
-1

Your question is hilarious in the way it's expressed. I can see why you got downvoted. You have some penetrating though unflattering observations on American society. To avoid discussing these topics, hard though it is, I think you should start writing a blog about them. Then you will be ready to articulate your position when called on, but more able to exercise self-restraint and refuse to enter discussion when just being annoyed by some ignoramus with an agenda. You will also have the satisfac…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:56 PM
2

That's because, as she has very broadly defined it 'sexual harassment' is a normal part of everyday life and male behaviour and they are perfectly ok with that.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:44 PM
1

If she wants to, yeah. She is a very articulate and clear advocate for our cause, well, for common sense really. She dares to challenge feminist orthodoxy on campus. Some courage required for that.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:40 PM
18

I'm not going to apologise for anything anybody ever did to that bitch. I haven't touched her. I don't even know her. I have, however, had my mind fucked by bitches like her my life long, despite never having done anything like any of those things to anyone ever. And I'm just about sick of it.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:27 PM
-4

Retrospective rape. Did you get permission to comment?
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:15 PM
0

There is this slightly ironic twist, yes. :-)
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:14 PM
-1

They want to give women the power to fuck with your mind.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:13 PM
-3

Now that's unnecessary. Look at my eyes. I'm off my ass but I'm still talking perfect sense.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:12 PM
0

Feminist scholarship is way ahead of the law. Since Daly and McKinnon it's been using the legal theory to lead society and culture by the nose. Now it's decided to proceed by means of campus kangaroo courts in case the real courts aren't sitting up and paying attention.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:02 PM
-4

What should we call them? No-permission rape. No-yes rape. Tipsy rape. No-enthusiasm rape. Stare-rape. Retrospective-rape.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 09:50 PM
-2

Levels of rape Sex without permission or agreement. Sex in the absence of 'no' or 'yes'. Sex under the influence of alcohol but not incapacitated. Tipsy rape. Sex in the absence of enthusiastic 'yes'. Staring at a woman. Psychological or 'stare' rape. Sex without consent as it will be defined in the future by psychoabbling male-shaming 'educators'.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 09:43 PM
0

Who are you? Oh. I see. http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/241835/z/ch2p060 One of them. OK. An SRS duck-fucker. Are we keeping you busy?
/r/MensRights26/04/14 08:22 PM
0

Yeah. Me too. Tell it back to me so I don't forget.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 05:56 PM
0

"Tipsy rape is not a thing", in the odious vernacular of the precious and the prissy. How about a new poster slogan?
/r/MensRights26/04/14 05:52 PM
1

There is a new life out there waiting for you. You have the freedom to do one or more of those things you always wanted to do but couldn't because you were unwittingly abducted into a system of legalised slavery and then trampled on like a piece of dirt. Do you think you could take up one of those things and never look back? I'm sorry for your pain. I'm not sure what you should do about your child, but i do know that there's no point trying to do something that can't be done. Come back from the …
/r/MensRights26/04/14 05:03 PM
-2

Sort of. But the recent tranche of banishments appear to be from the uberpsychobitch wing of the party. There may be divisions on the question of tolerance of dissent ranging from Demmian's Stalinism to something more anarchic. They will split along this line without necessarily coming over to our side.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 04:25 PM
-1

If you're counting subs what about that anti SRS stuff and the red pill and so forth that I don't have anything to do with but i think they're surely opposed to, you know, feminism as it's generally understood here. I don't know. I'm just wondering.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 04:19 PM
0

Yes. Very well-developed argument. Keep eating your peanuts. When can we expect another one? That last paragraph delivered a punch. Well done.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 03:53 PM
9

Well that brings a rather satisfying feeling of schadenfreude.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 08:50 AM
1

And from the streets of the town where you live.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 08:26 AM
5

Given that your definition of harassment includes unwanted sexual attention it ain't worth the black marks it occupies on my screen. No answer to death threat question. Take it you concede that one.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 08:29 PM
6

Fallacy of the argument from authority there over that venal misrepresenter and charlatan Mary Koss. I thought you'd know that, being so fucking academic.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 08:24 PM
6

Fuck off with the harassment and death threat victim Olympic male-shaming. I never threatened you. What the fuck are you on about, you monstrous smear-Wiesel. Get your slime off me. How the fuck could I threaten you if i don't even know which country you are in?
/r/MensRights25/04/14 08:19 PM
1

Ha! The women were interested in real jobs. I like it. Yes if you can teach that age group your OK. There's teaching basic maths and literacy to adults.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 08:07 PM
2

Sports and cars? What kind of freak are you. No ladies underwear talk? /jest
/r/MensRights25/04/14 05:55 PM
2

I would love to teach, but can't. It's just too scarey. It's out of the question. Edit: scary.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 05:52 PM
3

That's sounds eminently presentable. I raise my fedora to you, mister dejour.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 05:47 PM
2

Do are you agreeing with me? I'm puzzled by the downvotes.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 05:18 PM
2

That's all very well and I'm not saying anything against it and being gay myself I certainly hope I'm welcome here, but the problem is the gay rights movement has a long history of lining up hetero-shaming with male-shaming and allied with feminists has already won tremendous advances for the rights of gays. It's men, in relation to women, who have been left behind by both and except where there is a case to be made for sex-based discrimination, the MRM is no more about gay rights than it is abo…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 05:15 PM
1

It's not an article. It's a pretty hefty book. But she has other shorter bits of writing and essay collections. I think there's one called Vamps and Tramps or something. One of my favourite quotes is, "Feminists, coveting social power, are blind to women's cosmic sexual power". But watch her. She's a bit of a loose cannon.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:59 PM
-7

Go back to your feministas and ask them, if men's rights are repressed by the patriarchy, and we're fighting the patriarchy, why don't they just join us?
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:45 PM
4

Off-color is what we're looking for. Fuck all that on-color shit. It's patriarchal.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:42 PM
6

Intersectional.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:39 PM
2

The MRM is equality for women plus equality for men. Feminists forgot the second part. But you can't really have one without the other. All you can have is power for one. Hence the recent feminist focus on empowerment, which translates as "female supremacy".
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:32 PM
2

Feminists don't actually help women but actually just try to sabotage the MRM.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:25 PM
1

Any more of that and I'll set the ducks on you.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:14 PM
4

Yes. There will be a brigade of harpies and demons getting worked up into a fury over this.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 02:34 PM
21

Driven out by paedohysteria.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 02:30 PM
4

Citing sources? You are scum. Vile, wicked scum. This is what misogyny looks like.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 02:15 PM
3

What are you talking about? They are obviously a bunch of trigger happy ban-whores with schadenfreude where most people have compunction. I've been in those subs and delicately tried to tease out their contradictions. As soon as they figure out where you might be going they're out with the name-calling and the male-shaming and the mods stop by to warn you if you're lucky. It gets to the stage where just asking questions is illegitimate because you don't agree with their conclusions already. They…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 12:14 PM
4

I don't agree that any movement should be willing to discuss the issues of its own members. Sometimes, yes. But not always. I do however believe that feminism ought to be able to discuss MRA issues because they are feminist issues, albeit in dissident form. What you have here is a Stalinist refusal to broach dissent. I will explain if you like?
/r/MensRights25/04/14 10:48 AM
1

Yes. That's a fair point too. Take up with the lexicographers and ask why they aren't consistent.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 07:43 AM
1

Yes. That's a fair point too. Take up with the lexicographers and ask why they aren't consistent.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 07:42 AM
1

OK. I getcha.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 07:41 AM
2

Let's just call it checkmate. ;-)
/r/MensRights24/04/14 10:18 PM
1

I take your point but not your example. Review house arrest. It can be pretty bad. But yeah. There's really no comparison as you say.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 09:59 PM
2

That'll be fifty dollars. You can pay my secretary at the door on the way out.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 07:42 PM
4

Duck yeah. You want to start looking up words in dictionaries and find out what an authority dick thinks they ought to mean? This all goes back to Samuel Johnson. He was a good man was Sam. Focus on changing the actual use of the word and as sure as day follows night those fusty old compilers will soon trundle along behind. Limit your activism in dictionaryville to suggesting they may have missed a usage. That will pluck their goose like nothing else. But perhaps the greatest single fault of the…
/r/MensRights24/04/14 07:21 PM
1

Well, there may be in places like the Eastern Congo.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 07:15 PM
2

Look. This is rape. Some prissy little madam deciding she may not have given the appropriate form of consent really isn't. It's just mindfuckery.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 07:13 PM
3

Oxford are only interested in how it's used, not how it ought to be
/r/MensRights24/04/14 06:48 PM
3

Thank you for posting. Very informative.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 05:54 PM
2

"Sexual Personae" or other writings by the wizened contrarian Camille Paglia.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 09:58 AM
1

Telling it straight without blowing a gasket. Thanks.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 09:48 AM
-2

100% excellent post. Hold that mood. You're in fine fettle. Fuck the rest.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 09:45 AM
1

Exactly. Now try it without the spaces and with a lower case "U".
/r/MensRights24/04/14 12:16 AM
1

Yes. Historical cases are a shocking business.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 06:02 PM
1

I manage to rape relatively few women, but we all slip up from time to time. Be reasonable.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 05:59 PM
4

Hmmm. Bit sweeping, don't you think, old chap? I say, steady on.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 05:56 PM
1

I still think you're missing something. Suggest careful study of evidence and reference to same in future. We may both learn something.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 12:59 PM
2

Or says she is.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 12:23 PM
2

Always or just sometimes?
/r/MensRights23/04/14 12:21 PM
1

Well, if you can say all that again without using the term "alpha" we might be getting something. Sharp thinking is hindered by crude instruments. Also, I think what each is willing to settle for is the crucial part. Think of all those girls out there obsessing over one direction. That's the instinct of hypergamy. He will bring me status and money and bliss. Just the five. Millions of girls. Boys don't think like that. Sure, I'll be lucky if I get that one with the nice ass but I'm not going to …
/r/MensRights23/04/14 12:01 PM
7

From the comments section, here's one to live by: Dear Isabel I spent twenty years trying to be nice to women like you, and in return I received nothing but contempt. What makes you think I would be inclined to welcome you into my life now? While you were sleeping, I changed too - I haven't remained "nice", every ready to "be there" for you, just waiting to drop everything to be by your side and take care of you. Your contempt and your sadism changed me. I am now what you would think of as "nast…
/r/MensRights23/04/14 10:38 AM
2

This from the comments section: Maybe its because I'm moving in MRA circles a lot recently but I've noticed a sharp uptick in these kinds of articles lately. Someone on twitter linked to a blitheringly narcissistic blog wherein the damsel wanted a man who would "threaten to rough up guys who annoyed her at work". I wish I could find it now, but whatever this is almost as good. Incidentally the guy in that last link is almost as bad for being a complete doormat. Not a "nice guy" but rather someon…
/r/MensRights23/04/14 10:35 AM
0

I'm at the bottom of 59. Where are you?
/r/MensRights23/04/14 10:15 AM
13

Insight bingo. You win.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 10:10 AM
1

Good question. Reality is, if chess players rolled together there would be no women in the world championships, so they divide them up. There's no division in the lower orders. At least, that was true some years ago. Not sure about the Politskaya's, or whatever they're called. Chess appeals to far more men than women. Theories abound. Invent your own.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 10:08 AM
4

Of course they fucking are. Equal pay for equal work no matter who does it, you retarded antediluvian. A plague of ducks on your back yard.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 10:02 AM
1

No thanks.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 10:00 AM
1

Haven't read the article yet, but right off the bat why not pose it this way: how to get women involved in our discussion about what we have to offer as men? Read that as "we'll decide then we'll 'discuss' it with them to let them know what's up".
/r/MensRights23/04/14 09:58 AM
0

So your problem is babies, not women.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 09:52 AM
7

No. Men don't want alpha females. Crudely speaking men will take anything they can get. You can't fix what you don't begin to understand.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 09:51 AM
-2

Treat dem bad bitches bad. Treat the good ones good.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 09:48 AM
4

Who gets to assign function?
/r/MensRights23/04/14 07:36 AM
0

Or vice versa.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 07:29 AM
2

Interesting.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 07:28 AM
2

You were missing the leading "/".
/r/MensRights23/04/14 07:14 AM
5

Shocking
/r/MensRights23/04/14 07:13 AM
2

There does seem to be a problem here.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 01:07 AM
2

/u/chocoboat
/r/MensRights23/04/14 12:07 AM
6

There is this. Yes.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 12:06 AM
2

Is that you, princess?
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:54 PM
3

Sorry. That's too subtle for me. The missing words are "tell you".
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:53 PM
3

I know.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:43 PM
4

Bang on.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:43 PM
4

Wait. Are you offering this as advice for nice guys? I read it as a sarcastic characterisation of Janet's piece. Looks like I'll have to take my other comment back. Sorry.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:41 PM
1

Very well put.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:28 PM
11

I take the outlier view that rape should be prosecuted like any other crime. Innocent until proven guilty. No proof, no guilt. And single eye witness testimony cannot be proof. The result would be to greatly diminish the violent potential of false allegations. Problem solved. Of course. Loads of rapists would walk out of court smiling. That's disgusting, but better than locking up the innocent. See Blackstone Principle. Better ten guilty men go free...
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:24 PM
3

Also, though Janet didn't say it, I'm older now so my options are closing in.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:17 PM
12

Sorry. You're not allowed to call women assholes. Only women are allowed to call the opposite sex assholes. And, you know, we are assholes. Didn't your mother anything? We will have to downvote you to protect our reputation from the harpies.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:12 PM
4

Yes. She's reappraising what she can get, but just as self-preoccupied as ever. She just can't see it. To me it self-satirises. I had to check the about page to make sure it wasn't a lampoon. I thought the first italicised passage was Janet's characterisation. Then I discovered she actually wrote it AND was serious.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:07 PM
3

There is a bit of that. I agree. It's a little weak.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:03 PM
11

I don't see how you missed it. I've decided I want to learn from you now. All you have to do is look me passionately in the eyes and adore me: mind, body and soul. I'll let you do that now. It's OK. You're not a creep any more. I'll tell you when to fuck off. Really sorry about the wait. Enjoy.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 09:51 PM
6

Perfect. Including the last line.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 09:48 PM
2

Dude! Every psychobitch on the block has a degree in film theory and is at least working towards her MBA.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 09:35 PM
-12

Fick off. Only women are princesses in hetero sex. Everybody knows this. Stop being a pinhead.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 09:04 PM
18

He's not deplorable, he's simply unattractive, for reasons Janet hints at. There's no primal desire or something. Feminists refuse to acknowledge any nuance here at all despite the abundant evidence of women's behaviour. They really don't like it when we talk like this. Expect the brigade soon.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 09:01 PM
4

Is Janet Bloomfield a man? How can she understand this so well?
/r/MensRights22/04/14 08:57 PM
27

Suddenly it hit me. A woman could be a jerk.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 08:12 PM
5

What a load of fuckright bullshit. Let me tell you something. If you are physically attacked in the street you are under a public duty to report it and support the administration of legal justice to the full, not because it makes you feel good or because you want revenge, but because the public body of which you are a member has declared it a crime and wants to be protected from it. By refusing to press charges you diminish the legitimate public interest and neglect your duty as a citizen, never…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 03:08 PM
2

No degree? Oh dear. [sniff]
/r/MensRights21/04/14 11:19 PM
2

Oh I don't know. Maybe under a pseudonym? Actually, no. I don't think he would.
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:59 AM
3

Fuck the lot of them.
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:56 AM
4

Exactly. It's perfectly natural to slip up and murder a drunk woman every once in a while. Let's be honest. We all do it.
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:55 AM
1

Actually i kill very few women, though of course we all slip up from time to time.
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:53 AM
1

Where did you do your degree?
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:44 AM
5

MINUS ONE? That was a very good post. Who are you: Warren Farrell? And what's with the downvoting?
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:17 AM
2

A mixture of good and bad in this. She takes issue with the old feminist canards, but remains of the view that women have greater emotional intelligence and says that women are better at some jobs and men at others. But why not say some persons are better at some jobs? It smacks of old sex-role stereotyping. Also, notice she's married to a TV executive. No hypergamy there then. I like what she says about wolf-whistles though. Thank goodness somebody is willing to be honest. Always a nice touch. …
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:06 AM
1

"In Ms Majoo’s sterile, politically-correct world, men who wolf-whistle at women are part of an ‘ingrained sexist culture’. I’m sure I will rankle the feminists when I say that, as a mother of two grown-up sons, I’m heartily grateful for the odd whistle of approbation." Daily Mail columnist
/r/MensRights21/04/14 09:45 AM
1

And yet "I am not here for you": http://stoptellingwomentosmile.com/ Video about anti-street harassment posters.
/r/MensRights20/04/14 11:46 PM
1

Bet you enjoyed them, didn't you? Sick paedo! /possible sarcasm
/r/MensRights20/04/14 11:05 PM
1

Society? Or women themselves? Like they have no choice in the matter.
/r/MensRights20/04/14 01:41 PM
2

Some propaganda phrases require to be translated. Firstly, in the sentence: "It could be that part of the problem lies with the tiny but highly vocal minority of men who appear to operate a crude and provocative good for the goose/good for the gander sex wars agenda. Which, in turn, makes women feel somewhat protective and tribal about "female-friendly" laws." "to operate a crude and provocative good for the goose/good for the gander sex wars agenda" = to apply consitently the principle of equal…
/r/MensRights20/04/14 12:07 PM
2

Oh I do like a bit of contrarianism. That was good. Especially the rape joke at the end.
/r/MensRights20/04/14 11:42 AM
2

An ironic depiction of "rape culture" in the first person from the point of view of the mother of a rapist. Very strained and unconvincing.
/r/MensRights18/04/14 08:50 PM
1

Good.
/r/MensRights18/04/14 01:59 PM
0

Jesus Christ. You really can't read can you? Reading comprehension: 5 out of 10. But John tends to miss the salient points. Have you any idea how tedious it is debating in writing with people who can't read? My God! How's your arithmetic?
/r/MensRights17/04/14 07:35 PM
1

Go ahead. Why not?
/r/MensRights17/04/14 11:58 AM
0

There is not enough within this single article to support this conclusion. Maybe you know more about her than I do.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 11:57 AM
2

Yes. Hateful people.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 11:55 AM
1

Articulate, clear, compelling. Best shut her up. You can't answer her, can you?
/r/MensRights17/04/14 10:34 AM
1

In this tiny case I don't know. In general, social scientists take this question quite seriously though, because you see what happens if the sample is not representative. Prime example just provided.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 07:41 PM
1

I've no idea. Does it matter? I don't know. But that's what i meant by randomness. That's all.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 07:37 PM
1

Well, you know, there's a thing called a representative sample. Just saying. I mean, you saw how badly wrong things went last time.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 07:02 PM
1

That is a huge technical improvement. Now we need a social science improvement. Randomness and good questions.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 05:28 PM
10

More like whiney new York so-called journalist crushes lawyer by repeatedly interrupting him in a voice so much louder I had to keep turning the sound up and down so as to preserve my hearing. The lawyer missed a trick by not interrupting her blow for blow until it descended into a cacophony. For example he should have matched her point that crimes should be investigated by adhering with her so long as there is evidence. He should have politely told her to stfu if she wants answers to her questi…
/r/MensRights16/04/14 01:04 PM
1

I agree. That really was uncalled for.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 10:03 AM
7

"These men truly believe they are superior to women and its disgusting". That man only has 16% left on his battery and it's hilarious.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 10:00 AM
27

This is an interesting first effort in how to do a survey of ourselves, principally for its mistakes, from which we can learn. If the survey is anonymous it is wide open to abuse and its results are unreliable. Here is a perfect demonstration of that problem. The question is how to address it for the next time.
/r/MensRights15/04/14 10:45 AM
2

Nice.
/r/MensRights14/04/14 06:08 PM
0

OK. I'll spill the beans. What a thing is does not depend on the name we give it. The name is an entirely arbitrary label. If we give it a new name, it doesn't change. If we give two things the same name, they are not necessarily the same. A large quantity of confusion proceeds from some form of this "give it a name" fallacy. In the history of ideas, at least in the West, it is hard to think of a wider variety of positions than those which have passed under the title "feminism". I mean by this t…
/r/MensRights14/04/14 09:55 AM
0

Exactly. It's always great to read the originals. You are spurring me on to read Hume. I'm especially interested in his ethics. I've read Kant and Mill. But not Hume. Seems like a gap.
/r/MensRights14/04/14 09:42 AM
1

Thanks. You are not a bad person.
/r/MensRights14/04/14 09:40 AM
-1

Aww. You have such lovely blue eyes.
/r/MensRights14/04/14 08:44 AM
0

Because the content is illegible, as far as I'm concerned. Next time just copy and paste it in a comment or else accept some people aren't going to read it. No need to get upset about it.
/r/MensRights14/04/14 01:55 AM
2

Fish?
/r/MensRights13/04/14 09:58 PM
0

Actually yes. Would you mind doing that, please? Perhaps the OP could do that for us. Others may appreciate it too. If I were at home I would reverse the light-dark relationship using my browser scrptlet designed for just that purpose. But on my not-so-smartphone I can't. Great idea. Thanks. Please do. Then I will offer my judgement, I promise. (Big smile).
/r/MensRights13/04/14 09:19 PM
0

As a feminist I refuse to go along with this on principle. Women are the equals of men and are perfectly capable of speaking with the same vocal apparatus nature had endowed them and men alike. It is the men who need to be encouraged to speak since patriarchal weak-women ideologues are trying to prevent them. This patriarchal cultural norm must be resisted.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 09:13 PM
0

Strictly yes. I'm judging the typography, but not the content.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 09:06 PM
-2

Well done. You've got me.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 09:04 PM
-2

I'm sorry you're having difficulty with this. Perhaps check the edit on my original comment.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 08:52 PM
-1

Get a web designer.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 08:39 PM
0

I have severe learning difficulties.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 08:27 PM
2

You judged my comments without even reading them.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 08:27 PM
1

I'm not judging it. I'm just not reading it.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 08:23 PM
-7

Light text on a dark background is a typographic outrage. I refuse to read. Sorry. EDIT: Just to be clear, for those who can't read or have difficulty understanding, I offer no judgement about the content. It may be fine and very worth reading. All who want are free to read it. I do not judge it not worth reading. How could I know, I haven't read it. There is much I haven't read that is worth reading. I have never read David Hume, four example, but consider him well worth reading. But if you pre…
/r/MensRights13/04/14 03:36 PM
2

Funny
/r/MensRights13/04/14 03:33 PM
0

It doesn't bother me all that much. But if necessary, that could be the night I declare myself female.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 11:33 PM
6

Drivel.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 08:43 PM
12

Yes i hate women. I like ducks. Please pass the butter.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 07:46 PM
2

I like the kind of woman who keeps her lips together when she's chewing. Stay at home moms are ok as long they don't expect me to stay out and make them lots of money.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 07:41 PM
4

Deli sandwich medium meal with a black coffee, please.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 07:35 PM
29

Don't waste your time with people who have no interest in understanding you. It entails missing an opportunity with people who have.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 03:53 PM
3

Well that's a fascinating reply. I'm puzzled by it. Don't suppose you could expand on it to make it more clear? Can I assume you have read my recent posting history including my contributions to the thread with semperflea? One thing I can state quite clearly. I support the right of gays to be gay and to practise their sexuality in private where they seem to me to be causing no one the slightest harm. What is puzzling is that for that view I was called a horrible person and an oppressor of strugg…
/r/MensRights12/04/14 02:58 PM
2

Most welcome.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 12:46 AM
3

Good one. Well observed.
/r/MensRights11/04/14 10:49 PM
2

I weep with gratitude for this post. Thank you. Sorry. I forgot. I'm supposed to be yelling at you and telling you to GTFO. You are gay. I am an MRA homophobe who oppresses women, gay men and all minorities. I must try harder to remember. /s I am a truly horrible person. /s.
/r/MensRights11/04/14 10:48 PM
1

Nothing's gonna change my love for you.
/r/MensRights11/04/14 08:37 PM
4

Enough already. We want to know who we are.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 10:22 PM
1

Yet we constantly get the question about whether we are gay-friendly, which we obviously are in any ordinary sense of the term. I mean we are no less friendly with a guy because of what he does with his banana. It's not like there's a gatekeeper asking newcomers what they prefer to fuck. Frankly we don't care. And somehow that makes us bad people.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 10:12 PM
1

It's weird that no one comes by asking us to support disabled-friendliness. Or Jew-friendliness. Or even afro-Caribbean-friendliness. Or Latino-friendliness.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 10:06 PM
0

OK.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 09:53 PM
1

Very impressive and inspiring piece of writing. Hers are the thoughts of the future.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 09:52 PM
-3

Good. I like it. "What part of 'no' don't you understand?" "The same part you don't really mean."
/r/MensRights10/04/14 02:24 PM
-1

There is wisdom in those words.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 09:47 AM
-4

For you, yes. Maybe you failed to get three joke?
/r/MensRights10/04/14 09:47 AM
0

Is that you, George?
/r/MensRights10/04/14 09:45 AM
-2

It was a smartphone Google keyboard error for "rapists" which my genteel keyboard thinks is a dirty word. I thought it was rather funny. It's a miserable, pathetic existence.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 09:44 AM
-1

Taoists? Have you got no irony detectors at all?
/r/MensRights10/04/14 08:35 AM
-2

Oh I see. You thought I was being serious? Even with "Taoists"? To me, that's strange and unexpected. Sorry.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 01:13 AM
-5

Oh that. Yeah. It was meant to be funny.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 01:11 AM
0

You don't need our help. The people of RJ united states have already come to your side. Through their representatives in the legislature they have already declared their will that employers will not do this and deputised the police, the courts and the penal system to apply this will. It's called sex discrimination at work and it is against the law.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 04:49 PM
1

You have zero respect for me. You only day that to try to shame me. I have every respect four your right to enjoy your sexuality in peace and I mean it. We are quite different and your duplicity, conscious or not, offends me. "I'm sorry if that upsets you". Guilt-tripping twat!
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:21 PM
1

Yes.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:18 PM
-1

I believe this depends on too much commitment to Cartesian dualism. If you take the body out of sex then it ceases to make sense. How can a mind be independently masculine if masculine is not derived from male behaviour.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:17 PM
-2

Why? Because I am happy to live and let live?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:14 PM
0

Male shaming belongs elsewhere. Duck off.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:13 PM
0

Not so much. His was better.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:07 PM
3

Precisely
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:06 PM
3

You address it by hiding like a victim and male shaming us. We know your type and expect it here.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:04 PM
2

Bang on!
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:00 PM
0

Because he thinks of most men are oppressors of his little predeliction and he wants to shame them.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:59 PM
2

Staggering display of patience. Commendable.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:56 PM
4

He's not confused. He wants to shame us as oppressors of his private deviance because it's not enough that we simply live and let live. Look at his point by point rebuttal. He has no interest in the MRM and never had. These self-preoccupied and victim drama queens really have no place here. They have no interest in the impartial application of the principles of justice and equality. Their only concern is their own femi-style empowerment. His answers today make this clear.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:52 PM
1

You are not sorry. You are delighted. You came here to shame is for being oppressors of you precious sexuality. You are such a conniving disingenuous toad. Get over yourself.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:38 PM
2

Analogy missed. Willful or stupid?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:36 PM
2

I refuse to be ashamed about not giving a fuck about your sexuality.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:34 PM
3

His problem is he really wants to shame straight men for oppressing gay men. That is why he is bitching. Otherwise why would gay men be any more important than marrow growing men or ginger men. He is a male shamer not an MRA.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:32 PM
1

Oh. How rude. What happened to your focus, your issues, your struggle? I think now it is clear. Only you have rights and issues. Everyone else must focus on them. Straight men are the oppressors who must be shamed. Yes. You belong with your sisters in feminism. You are diametrically opposed to men's rights and have no place in the movement. Why come here with all your BS instead of reading the FAQ and moving on like any other toadstool?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:26 PM
-13

All women are rapists. We must teach them to become Taoists. EDIT: Irony warning. Proceed at your own risk. Listen to the chiff-chaffs.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:01 PM
7

Do you notice how sorry he is that he has upset us?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:36 AM
-6

What makes you think I give a flying fuck what you identify as?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:25 AM
5

Maybe you're just jealous?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:21 AM
3

That's fine.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:18 AM
2

I don't respect you.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:15 AM
2

Great lot of good you are to the ginger community. Please do not trivialise their struggle, it's really insulting.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:13 AM
3

Please don't trivialize SemperFlea and his struggle. OK?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:04 AM
7

You seem to be approaching this very immaturely. I was just saying you're welcome no matter what you're sexual orientation. That apparently made you upset.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:01 AM
1

Yes. I'm against AA. What the duck is this? Seriously it's time to advocate for affirmative action for men in PR and every other field the girls dominate. Not because it will happen, but because when they defend the status quo as only natural we can take notes ant m and throw it back in their faces later. Capiche?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 01:56 AM
5

You heard it here, trans men aren't really men. May as well put a disclaimer at the top of your subreddit "all men welcome except maybe trans men, their problems are too unique and not always related to systematic degradation" Now here I do actually agree with you. And as an avid marrow grower I feel our struggle should be recognized too. All I get is systematic degradation. "All men welcome except maybe marrow growers" should be their byline. They also don't care much about canibals. You can't …
/r/MensRights09/04/14 01:52 AM
8

Dude! We really don't give a flying fuck what you do with your banana?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 01:47 AM
-19

Is that a "yes"?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 01:11 AM
-2

Being ginger is trivial?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 01:09 AM
2

You really will have to stop fucking around with that shit.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 01:08 AM
1

Gingers? Is there no ginger focus? Clear evidence of ignorance towards the LGBTIQG community.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 12:33 AM
1

Dude! This stuff has been known since Nancy Friday's My Secret Garden. You really must keep up.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 12:11 AM
-26

So you're telling me I can wake up in the morning, take a look at my vag, and decide, "hey, you know what, I think I'll be a man today"?
/r/MensRights09/04/14 12:03 AM
-1

"problem"? Don't you mean "issue"?
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:59 PM
0

You need to educate yourself.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:58 PM
-1

If you think being a non-penis-bearing man is bad, just try being ginger. These fuckers really don't care about gingers. I tell you it's a miserable, pathetic existence.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:56 PM
2

You are the one. For it is thee, thee, I tell you. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:53 PM
4

Yes. I'm very offended. Being asked questions is offensive. I can't deal with it because I'm a gay-bashing heteronormative cis-gendered devil and one day karma will get me. Would you like cream cheese or cucumbers with your toast?
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:52 PM
3

Oh my.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:50 PM
5

Yes. You must shut up and listen to the straight man. Round here we have a rule: GAY MEN MUST SHUT UP. That's not misrepresenting us at all. Did somebody say "fuck off"? Oh wait. That was me.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:48 PM
7

Nobody here wants to restrict gay rights. What is your problem? Not getting enough attention?
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:46 PM
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