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I'm a tall attractive dude, I get approached regularly. Most women approach men. Very attractive women do it more often and more brazenly. It's common to the point that I'll bait approaches from girls I'm into, by pretending I don't notice them. It's just rare that they actually go up and initiate the conversation. It's a combination of being scared of rejection, not wanting to look desperate, and I suspect both not wanting to give up social power and preserving it as a test to see if you're con…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:20 PM
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Google book of yareally libgen for MM, also "sex god manual" I think is on there the RSD stuff mentioned is probably in torrents somewhere.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/23 03:10 AM
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Bro these responses are hysterical. Cold approach is arguably the most valuable skill in terms of getting women that exists. It also requires thousands of approaches to get good. There are very few actual pickup artists around anymore. It's all naturals and bros with no game like it used to be. It's a hard road. If you want to brave it, start with the YaReally archive (super fun read, chill vibe, and important concepts), original Mystery Method (some out of date stuff for sure, but gives you man…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/23 10:27 PM
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Congrats, you earned the "insufferable psycho" badge thanks to this comment!
/r/TheRedPill10/07/23 05:06 PM
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I actually know a lot about modern trauma theory. This is a bad fucking idea. You don't know how she's going to react here, and you can actually do damage. Doing trauma work is retraumatizing, so doing it correctly is a delicate process. As much as this could make her feel connected to you, it could also make her not want to see you again (because it's uncomfortable) or cause her to have flashbacks and dissociative reactions that can cause further damage unless you're using feelings of safety an…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/23 03:43 PM
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We require more vespene gas.
/r/seduction03/02/20 05:19 AM
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American here. Thanks for this post I'll keep it in mind when I visit your funny island of freedom haters =P . Do you know if it's the same for Scotts or Irish?
/r/seduction03/02/20 05:15 AM
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You say something positive mixed with something negative. e.g. "You're cute but you seem like mischief" "I want to marry you, just so I can divorce you" "I can't decide if I want to fall in love with you or run away from you." "I like your hair, it's adorably disheveled" "You're low key adorable" "Your eyes are the most stunning shade of blue, I need to get out of here before I fall in love." "I hate that I like you so much" You're welcome :)
/r/seduction03/02/20 01:30 AM
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Cool, yeah give it a shot. There's a lot of content out there about how to seed the pull/venue change correctly.
/r/seduction03/02/20 01:15 AM
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Cool, breaking rapport tonality. The pitch of your voice should go down at the end, not up or flat. Flat is fine, but you definitely don't want to rise up like a question. Try some push-pulls, they're basically magic.
/r/seduction03/02/20 01:11 AM
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Post field reports with the conversations. Are you telling them you find them attractive early on? Are you using push-pulls? How is your eye contact, proximity, and are you using BR tonality? Girls respond like that when you're not acting confidently.
/r/seduction03/02/20 01:01 AM
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"--Oh! I have this other really chill place you need to see. Finish your drink real quick so we can go." Not field tested but seems reasonable.
/r/seduction03/02/20 12:55 AM
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I expected someone to be beaten with jumper cables at some point but it never came. I want to believe this happened though. Are you going to see these nymphs again?
/r/seduction03/02/20 12:28 AM
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If leagues exist they don't apply to me.
/r/seduction03/02/20 12:23 AM
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"You're a cool dude let's hang out at some point" then hand him your phone so he can throw in his digits. It's good to brainstorm together while you're there to find something to do. If he gives you a weird look "No homo, I mean, it's totally cool if you're homo, I'm not, but that's not the point here."
/r/seduction03/02/20 12:03 AM
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Works for us *shrug*
/r/seduction03/02/20 12:00 AM
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Interesting, I got a really hot girl's number on Friday when saying it. She suggested snap, I answered with that and "I'll take your number though" (said in a tone that assumed she was going to give it and she was winning, while pulling out my phone), and we exchanged numbers no questions. I've only ever had problems around it if the girl wasn't on enough anyway and she was just using as an excuse to put me in the thirst pool.
/r/seduction02/02/20 11:59 PM
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"How do you feel about coffee with handsome young men?" Then take her out for coffee my dude.
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:29 PM
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Hahaha Wait has this happened to you? You're overthinking it dude. Just think of something to do together and make the time.
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:26 PM
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Memory is state dependent. It will take practice to connect all that skill to your sober self. Try a couple warm up approaches. Make small chat or flirt with some dudes or wags you're not interested in then go about your night.
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:21 PM
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Whenever I'm in a venue and a friend says "There are so many dudes in here." my immediate reaction is confusion. I don't see them. They're irrelevant.
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:18 PM
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*if you're awkward
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:16 PM
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That's sounds so pretty. Too bad it's useless.
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:15 PM
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Ideally you show you're romantically interested within the first 30 seconds of meeting them. It's easier to set the frame for a relationship than to change it.
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:14 PM
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I’m really lost at how you pick up girls while being genuine; while being your true, authentic self. Not sure you can, at least not effectively. It's never worked that way for me anyway. Girls seem to react best to ice cold manipulation. I'd be sweet and genuine if that's what worked. But it didn't, so I stopped.
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:07 PM
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I don't like holding hands usually, it just feels awkward. My go-to when I'm walking with a girl is to give her my arm (with my hand on my stomach).
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:01 PM
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Compliment him on something he's wearing. If he doesn't get the hint, bring up a topic from the lecture to make the conversation last longer. If you can find a way to tie in a tangent about your favorite author you get extra points. If he seems to like you but isn't closing, suggest a study group. is it silly to like someone so much without knowing them to begin with? Yes. But it can sometimes start a whirlwind.
/r/seduction02/02/20 11:26 AM
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It sounds like you're handling things just fine.
/r/seduction02/02/20 11:18 AM
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You don't have to be that try-hard about justifying it.
/r/seduction02/02/20 11:11 AM
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"oh, i don't ~do~ social media" You say this sarcastically. I unironically do this.
/r/seduction02/02/20 11:11 AM
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It's irrelevant. Girls need time getting to know you before being into you. Initial interest is great and all, but it's eclipsed by how important the rest of the interaction is. Her initial interest is not at all necessary for her to like you. Girls' attraction doesn't work like ours does.
/r/seduction02/02/20 11:08 AM
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Nights like that will happen. Keep going. It's like getting in shape, half the battle is showing up to the gym.
/r/seduction02/02/20 11:06 AM
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Things were getting steamy then she asked if I had a condom. I asked why she said just asking This has to be a troll. Does she need to make you a neon sign?
/r/seduction02/02/20 11:01 AM
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Gay males increase the fertility of primate tribes. What is good for the group is not necessarily good for the individual.
/r/seduction02/02/20 10:57 AM
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Got any tips for befriending typical people? I have an easy time forging relationships with like-minded individuals (abnormally intelligent and/or countercultural, so academics, doctors, psychonauts, ravers, nerds etc.), but I have trouble making friends with normies. I can be polite and sweet, but that formality only goes so far.
/r/seduction02/02/20 10:46 AM
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The problem with this advice, is that this is a girl who has so many options that she doesn't have time to give the random dude who chatted her up in a coffee shop a second thought. Let alone the dude she randomly gave her number to later that day. You don't have to be needy to be moving things along with her. The way you figure out if she doesn't suck is to talk to her on a date.
/r/seduction02/02/20 04:54 AM
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How would you measure that? And once measured how would you change it? PUA is built around the idea that there are successful models of attraction and social interaction as pertains to sex. If you haven't read up on the issue, or defined the problem well enough, or tried in a systematic manner, you're jumping the gun when you appeal to some vague 'core' being broken.
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:10 AM
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Having a lot of lines stored in a memory palace helps me. I have around 70 lines stored for different situations at the moment. If you google around a little you can figure out how to make memory palaces. It's also important to develop the skill of being able to talk without filtering yourself at all. So dedicate some practice time to say whatever comes to mind when talking to girls. Like 40-100 approaches. Say whatever comes up, no matter how dumb.
/r/seduction01/02/20 11:25 PM
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Wrong.
/r/seduction01/02/20 05:24 AM
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If your wingman is good it helps you. If he's bad you have to carry him, and he can be HEAVY. Nah you can split off.
/r/seduction01/02/20 05:21 AM
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I mean, you'll be a novelty. So you have that going for you. Get some good theory, experiment with it, and see how it turns out. I don't know how hard the aspie is going to make it to read social cues, but you don't know until you try. I would try both night and day.
/r/seduction01/02/20 04:17 AM
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I mean, you'll be a novelty. So you have that going for you. Get some good theory, experiment with it, and see how it turns out. I don't know how hard the aspie is going to make it to read social cues, but you don't know until you try.
/r/seduction01/02/20 04:16 AM
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I didn’t wanna talk for too long as it was just the first ever convo You should feel like time is on your side. The longer you talk to her the more she'll like you. It's just like if you get her number you should stay and chat for another 5 minutes. If y'all had the time, you could have made it a date right then and there. Ideally you're approaching at least 20 girls a week my dude. Well done man, approach more, and don't get caught up on this girl when it probably doesn't work out (sorry just b…
/r/seduction01/02/20 12:42 AM
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Interesting, my first one I felt shivers all over. She was way more experienced than I was and she taught me how. The best way to practice is to find someone who is better. Just mimic what they do, and learn by feel.
/r/seduction01/02/20 12:32 AM
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"Thank you" "I like this, tell me more about myself" The Solo: "I know" "Did you say bedroom eyes? Slow down girl."
/r/seduction31/01/20 11:07 PM
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getting laid is not my goal It is mine, because it's fun as fuck. Literally. All the other social consequences are great too obviously. Getting rejected 99% of the time, that has to be hard... It is at first. After awhile you don't feel it any more, and you revel in how awesome you are for having the willpower to push past massive mental barriers in order to create good times for you and others.
/r/seduction31/01/20 10:22 PM
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Well it's getting me laid better than your model is, so I'm going to go with my model.
/r/seduction31/01/20 10:16 PM
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Except what you're saying straight up isn't true. Both grrinchas and I have DONE this stuff and our mass empirical experience trumps your armchair whining.
/r/seduction31/01/20 10:04 PM
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I'm not worried about it.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:59 PM
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He's not complaining, he's trying to figure out how to level up. You should do the same.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:57 PM
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So the only problem you're facing here, is that girls will frequently be more comfortable escalating physically outside of the bedroom than in. So go somewhere nearby and start escalating before you pull into you apartment for sex.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:57 PM
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The core reason why cold approach works, is that you can be anyone you want to be on the approach. You can change your social persona over time. Being in a place with a smaller population removes that advantage.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:53 PM
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healthygamergg on youtube also has some great guided meditations and explanations.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:47 PM
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Remind yourself that any reasons you come up for not approaching in the moment are complete bullshit. If you doubt this, sit down with pen and paper afterward and write them out. They'll always turn out to be complete bullshit.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:46 PM
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"rsd hotseat at home reddit" it's literally the third entry on google man. You might find value in looking up how to use search engines.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:41 PM
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chances are she's already done the mental gymnastics and still decided no. In practice it turns out to be an ongoing process. So move on, you'll thank yourself. No, persistence is extremely important. I can hardly count how many opportunities I left on the table because of not persisting. I always leave when a girl asks me too or walks away, or it's just obviously not going anywhere, but there are plenty of soft-rejections that turn out to be tests. I'd rather risk the odd awkward five extra sec…
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:34 PM
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Google is your friend, it's on reddit somewhere. I'd go for more technical stuff though, ToddV or Saul Tee.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:09 PM
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Create a torrent.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:08 PM
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but I guess that's how it's supposed to be A lot of time you can get them asking/demanding to give you their number if you have them chasing correctly. Grab some basic theory. ToddV, YaReally, or Saul Tee all cover phone game. Go for the number.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:07 PM
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Make torrents of that stuff my dude.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:05 PM
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Damn dude, the guy is speaking from positive experience and you're roasting him from ignorance.
/r/seduction31/01/20 09:04 PM
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Why are all the dudes so negative on this thread, if two people want to get down as consenting adults why care? Girls mostly don't care, and some find it hot. If she's not into you, you'll hear her sometimes backwards rationalize that it's because of your age. As you get more experience, you'll notice girls backwards rationalizing attraction to random characteristics, don't worry about it. Hotter younger girls are easier if you're on your game. They're less jaded, more sexually open, and more do…
/r/seduction31/01/20 08:54 PM
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If you're bad at it, it's creepy. If you're good at it, it's flattering and destiny. The more you approach the more often it'll look like the later. So fuck the haters. There are very few of them though.
/r/seduction31/01/20 08:44 PM
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It's called the strawberry fields routine. If you crtl-F for 'cube' through my comments I have one pointing to a post by a hypnotist on how these routines work. They're cold reading techniques, so basically it's bullshit. They're still chick crack though.
/r/seduction31/01/20 08:40 PM
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Just say hi.
/r/seduction31/01/20 08:37 PM
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As far as the social circle part, you can actually splinter your personality between your social circle and cold approach. Over time your personality in the rest of life starts to mirror you cold approach personality.
/r/seduction31/01/20 08:14 PM
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"You're cute but you look like trouble." "You seem like you wouldn't be boring", find something about her look come up with a justification then exadgerate it e.g. I saw a girl yesterday who had a black victoria secret jacket on with a "Pink" lettering, I told her that I wondered when Victoria Secret started hiring colorblind designers. introduce yourself, "You have such nice... timing, you're lucky I came here today." "You seem interesting, though a little strange."
/r/seduction31/01/20 07:34 PM
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Yeah pretty much, there's /r/fpua . The problem is that women and men have very different value propositions and drives from a mating perspective. The difference in attractive qualities between men and women are what drives the effectiveness of male pick up.
/r/seduction31/01/20 06:58 PM
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Normal basic theory applies. Sidebar, ToddV, YaReally, Saul Tee.
/r/seduction31/01/20 12:54 PM
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The same as for those who didn't. It's still low, but it really is irrelevant.
/r/seduction31/01/20 12:53 PM
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More like 1/1000 for me, even then, things will probably go sideways. That's entropy for you.
/r/seduction30/01/20 02:03 AM
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Cold approaching is what you SHOULD do if OLD sucks for you. You have so much more potential avenues for communication when you're in person. I would never in a lifetime be able to bed the girls I have in person, online. Looks are a small piece of the puzzle on cold approach.
/r/seduction30/01/20 12:13 AM
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Why do they always hide my size You're the voice in her head, nice.
/r/seduction30/01/20 12:09 AM
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“What you say doesn’t matter.” Is half true. You can use your words to frame the conversation in such a way that she feels the need to chase you. You can also outframe shit-tests, and cause her to be attracted with your words. The reason why “what you say doesn’t matter” is that you *can* pick up with only your subcommunications, but you’re leaving a lot of efficiency on the table and it requires you to be in the mood in the moment. Good verbals are hard to deliver smoothy at first, but they get…
/r/seduction29/01/20 11:12 PM
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Todd Valentine's "The System" is solid. The book of Yareally is good. The Technical Game Bible by Saul Tee is also solid.
/r/seduction29/01/20 11:06 PM
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Go get some established theory.
/r/seduction29/01/20 01:24 PM
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Go get some good theory, it doesn't change much in that setting.
/r/seduction29/01/20 01:23 PM
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They put you in boyfriend mode. Girls make you wait for sex when they think they can land you for an LTR or as an orbiter. It's their biggest bargaining chip if they know they don't have to compete with other girls, or you could lose respect for them. If you put off high value/player vibes they'll be dtf quickly.
/r/seduction29/01/20 01:21 PM
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No one else here is giving you the golden formula, here it is: you say something good about her, then you say something bad about her. Or you say something that is both. The way to practice this is to describe anything with "Fortunately ... Unfortunately ..." Fontunately you're kind of cute, unfortunately you're a bit of a weirdo. Fortunately your fashion sense is solid, unfortunately you don't seem to care enough to get the details right etc. You can do this exercise about anything, any object,…
/r/seduction29/01/20 01:10 PM
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This is dumb, we learn everything else through technique. Socialization and leadership is no different.
/r/seduction29/01/20 01:10 PM
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Bruh you need to approach more, like /u/Insaneflirt_max said. Those are good numbers for a beginner. 2nd girl said her parents wouldn't approve of my race She had you in provider/boyfriend mode, up your game.
/r/seduction29/01/20 01:01 PM
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Get tinder, make a decent profile so you can at least get some warpigs matching. Then find some text game theory and practice on them. Also, approach more girls.
/r/seduction29/01/20 12:57 PM
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Also, say it before she can for bonus mindfuckery "We're not having sex tonight."
/r/seduction29/01/20 12:53 PM
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w00t!
/r/seduction29/01/20 12:52 PM
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The fuck, no don't go up to her dorm room.
/r/seduction29/01/20 12:47 PM
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Dressing well isn't even expensive. Go to a thrift store in a rich area. It's absurd the kind of steals you can get e.g. like new $600 coats for $15. Every time I go out I get at least one person telling me I look swaggy and I've paid $500 tops for an entire wardrobe. Get beautiful clothes for silly prices and then tailor them. Boom, you look like a celebrity.
/r/seduction29/01/20 12:42 PM
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Wrong sub
/r/seduction29/01/20 12:39 PM
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Lol I've never seen this before. I think girls are looking for an exit strategy my dude.
/r/seduction29/01/20 10:04 AM
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Improv exercises and/or create a memory palace with lines and topics.
/r/seduction29/01/20 09:55 AM
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Nah, hot girls will screen by being blaze unless your open was amazing. You can recover from a bad open with good game, but obviously if the girl asks you to leave or walks away you should call it. Girls will not start asking questions about you until they're a little bought in, and that is rarely straight off the open.
/r/seduction29/01/20 09:52 AM
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May I tickle your dickle?
/r/seduction29/01/20 09:50 AM
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I recommend you try it and see what happens. What you'll learn, is that people don't care that much. Think about how much you remember about random individuals in environments that you spend time in? That's how much they think about you too. You are not a unique snowflake, very few people really care, no one will remember or care what happened after 15 minutes. Every time you have all those reasons running through your head for you not to approach: Sit down later with pen and paper and do a cost…
/r/seduction29/01/20 08:49 AM
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"I have a girlfriend" is the standard rejection excuse. Every girl has options. Level up your game.
/r/seduction29/01/20 06:09 AM
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Wrong sub. Funny. But still wrong sub.
/r/seduction29/01/20 06:06 AM
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I've taken two bootcamps with them. I'd cancel and find a better company. They give you a bootcamp high, but in hindsight they didn't set me on the right path to mastery.
/r/seduction29/01/20 01:48 AM
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If sex really is the problem go check out Todd Valentine's "The System" and put that stuff to the test. Models is fairly ineffective in terms of advice. You should definitely find a good doc though, pickup isn't therapy.
/r/seduction28/01/20 12:05 PM
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how does that make you feel Lol that's savage. Find more girls my dude.
/r/seduction28/01/20 11:47 AM
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Bingo dingo.
/r/seduction28/01/20 11:13 AM
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:) take care man, good luck.
/r/seduction28/01/20 10:38 AM
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https://www.brown.edu/news/2017-05-24/experiences It's like any other treatment of the brain, there are pros and cons. Some types of meditation are better than others for certain effects. Doing too much is not good for you. I have a friend that had an experience predicted by that science, he's more emotionally muted in general after meditating frequently for over an hour at a time. I've got enough neuroscience training to be pretty confident about this stuff. Like a bit over 3k, I stopped counti…
/r/seduction28/01/20 06:18 AM
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Wow, so I believe you. To be clear I don’t think girls sleeping with me quickly is a weakness. I see it as evidence of their excellent taste in men. I also admire girls who are more introspective about their sexuality, exploratory, have high sex drives, and have experience. Your pride in disconnection from emotions and relationships sounds like a good way to avoid richness in life. So… girls like you and I are the furthest thing from compatible and I wouldn’t pursue you. Not to say there aren’t …
/r/seduction28/01/20 03:27 AM
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Do you have recommendations on books? There is good pickup theory out there, because it's applied, but there are also holes in the models I've patched with psychology models.
/r/seduction28/01/20 01:39 AM
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Interesting, you're religious, you could be the very rare exception. How old and attractive are you if you don't mind me asking?
/r/seduction28/01/20 01:29 AM
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I simply dont think i would be able to stand seeing her with someone else because she fits me so well. She doesn't though. She's not sexually attracted to you, and she won't be. Ever. That doesn't mean girls who are a much better fit won't be though. You're welcome, good luck.
/r/seduction28/01/20 01:23 AM
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My feelings kept growing This happened because you weren't seeing other girls. Not having options plays tricks on the mind. I dont know how i will feel later, but what i feel now is that if im still free and she also is in a few (lets say 4) months i will reach out and have another go with her. I hope you mean as a friend here. I really want to impress upon you that there are A LOT of options out there, and it's easy to get tunnel vision. You will bring less value into each others' lives as a co…
/r/seduction28/01/20 12:59 AM
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moving towards sex/intimacy faster, which probably means that i need to do kino right away and sexualize my interactions with girls as early as possible Yes, as a new guy that is the best possible way to start. Learning to make no apologies for your desires as a man will help.
/r/seduction28/01/20 12:48 AM
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You shouldn't go over 20 minutes tops based on what science I've read, otherwise you can become neurotic or emotionally muted. Owen Cook is wild to watch in person. I used to have a friend who would pull 7+ almost every night. He was super gregarious but had a lot of tech. I've done a few thousand approaches but only had 14 lays, 11 were 8/9's . I've had about 2 years combined experience. My lay count is so low because my standards are too high, I started out insanely awkward, and I don't think …
/r/seduction28/01/20 12:37 AM
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You've never had a kiss man, you have no idea what women are like in general. You self hypnotized yourself into infatuation with this girl. Having close intimate relations with a few girls does something interesting to your psychology. Hit those tinder wags up and have a good time.
/r/seduction28/01/20 12:27 AM
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That was rough, sorry y'all had to go through that. Kill that part of yourself that wants to date her. Trying again is the last thing you should do. Meeting lots of other women will make it easy. Having a girlfriend isn't worth losing a friend that close. Friends matter far more due to their loyalty.
/r/seduction28/01/20 12:14 AM
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Don't run your mouth unless you've tried it.
/r/seduction28/01/20 12:03 AM
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Oh I am so stealing this. Could you give examples of what you say? Oh wow I want to try this to listen in on girl talk... Also, it's only gay if the balls touch.
/r/seduction28/01/20 12:02 AM
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bad bot
/r/seduction27/01/20 11:58 PM
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Progressive desensitization.
/r/seduction27/01/20 11:57 PM
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You get to the point where you don't feel social pressure anymore. Sometimes the feeling is good, like a warm stone in the chest, other times it's just the absence of anxiety/hurt.
/r/seduction27/01/20 11:52 PM
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Ah, oh sorry. Well I hope you give it a shot.
/r/seduction27/01/20 11:46 PM
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I see your point and I get it as I used to think that way but you’d be surprised. They do I'm going with /u/WIA20XX on this one. Think about what that would require for her to always signal. a) making the decision on your looks/attire alone, which we know we can easily out-game b) always noticing all the men in the environment, when she has so much abundance it's absurd. If a girl strikes your fancy the answer is to approach or engineer her approaching you.
/r/seduction27/01/20 11:25 PM
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Yup yup. I've been writing more reports lately. I wrote 80k words for my first 2 years of game. I literally wrote a book's worth. I went full chode over the course of 7 years. It was re-reading those reports that made me remember what was possible. The fact that I was capable of the shenanigans I was pulling back was completely out of my model of reality a couple months ago.
/r/seduction27/01/20 11:09 PM
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Nah man but I might be in the next year, if so I'll hit you up. i kinda think the technical stuff is a waste of time because it comes out naturally just by being more attractive Yeah it's cool how one naturally emulates a lot of the tactics in state. I think a lot of them were reverse engineered from girls and naturals. My understanding is that for the more natural school, it's about de-social conditioning yourself, so those tactics are mostly instinct. Though if you think about it, if you use t…
/r/seduction27/01/20 11:05 PM
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Yeah it works. It works better on the most attractive girls too. I think it's because hotter girls are more social value sensitive. It's just really hard to master, think over a thousand approaches. Most of the guys on this sub think it's bullshit, and most of the guys on this sub don't go out. This stuff is powerful, it just takes time. You won't have 3 or 4 10's in your rotation. I can see being able to quickly put 3-4 8's and 9's in your rotation within 3 years. Probably more like a year for …
/r/seduction27/01/20 10:41 PM
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It's the technical school of game. So MM, ToddV, JMULV, Saul Tee, David D etc. Instead of relying only on subcoms for buying temperature spiking, you use verbals (cocky frame + push-pull/cold read/disqualifiers/negs/roleplays). State-game also benefits from a comfort/investment stage too, it brings down flaking.
/r/seduction27/01/20 10:21 PM
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Cheers :) . Yeah, that's one way to do it. I've done it that way and it's super fun. I'm trying going stateless and more verbal now, we'll see what happens.
/r/seduction27/01/20 10:13 PM
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So that’s what almost every woman will say. Dig into most attractive womens’ past (I’ve not tried this with less attractive girls) you’ll hear about at least 1 or 2 dudes who she broke the rules with. She’ll have excuses why it didn’t count too. Girls, when they come home with you quickly say “I’ve never done this before “ or “I never do this” like clockwork. RSDTyler wrote a post making fun of it a decade ago called “The Secret Society”. I’m sure /u/PsychologicalSkill0 believes her bullshit whi…
/r/seduction27/01/20 08:17 PM
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I've met at least 4 girls who loved long sessions off the top of my head.
/r/seduction27/01/20 11:06 AM
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So I've had girls quit on me after an orgasm before, who for various reasons didn't see again so I couldn't try to get past it. The way I worked through it with other girls is to go REALLY slow after she orgasms, but don't stop and you bring her down while still going. After a few sessions, going slow while being sensitive like that gets easier for her. She just has to be wiling to work through the initial phase with you, then it's increasingly awesome from there on out.
/r/seduction27/01/20 10:54 AM
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9 comments does not a representative sample make. Who knows how in shape reddit girls tend to be too. She was in ideal shape, I was a little soft but had good endurance.
/r/seduction27/01/20 10:39 AM
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Nah, sober. I can't tell you how many times we came it was such a blur. With her, her arousal was very tied to mine so we typically came together. If I had to guess around 5 times, she might have had a few more. I actually like orgasms a lot less than long sex sessions. When you go for long sessions, IME you can go a little over 45 minutes if you condition the girl to have rolling orgasms but she'll get overstimulated and dry at that point. I was 23 and she was 22.
/r/seduction27/01/20 10:35 AM
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? Dude I've fucked for at least 3 hours nonstop before, you just slow down for a bit then pick up speed again. One time I went on a marathon with my then girlfriend for about 36 hours, we drifted in and out of consciousness, took a shower or two while we fucked. I think we had like two 30 minute breaks for snacks. We both had ridiculous sex drives.
/r/seduction27/01/20 10:18 AM
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Change the question into a statement. What's your name? Tell me your name What time is it? Tell me the time. Do you like broccoli? I bet you like broccoli. Broccoli is good. I love Broccoli I hate Broccoli One time I shoved Broccoli up my rectum. Practice taking the question you want to ask, and figure out how to say something similar in a statement or command.
/r/seduction27/01/20 08:34 AM
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Here's your ray of hope: FDS is basically a fuckboi manual. They describe the behavior in men that made them hot before their FDS 'revelations'. FDS chicks aren't the girls you want. They're jaded and aging. The pre-FDS girls, that is to say the vast majority of the female population, are the healthy population of girls you want. Flip your perspective on its head, look for the opportunity.
/r/seduction27/01/20 08:16 AM
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Have him masturbate a lot so he progresses to needing more and more stimulation to finish. At least once a day, I used to do 1-3/day. I'm pretty sure that's how I got to the point where I can last hours if necessary. Is this the healthiest way to do it? Probably not. But it works.
/r/seduction27/01/20 08:05 AM
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It's about knowing from experience what she would do if she thought you were truly attractive. If she doesn't fuck me by the second date, it tells me that she's not bought in enough.
/r/seduction27/01/20 07:59 AM
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If I were you, I would introspect on this some more. Playing that guitar could have sealed the deal for you, and at 40 I'm sure you know that. So digging deeper into why you didn't might tell you about beliefs you have that have made dating difficult for you.
/r/seduction27/01/20 04:56 AM
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This is happening to you for the same reason why looks aren't all that important: you aren't carrying yourself in a confident fashion. There are a bunch of body language cues we give off as men that girls pick up on. They're hard to fake.
/r/seduction27/01/20 03:02 AM
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I see, I'm sorry to hear that man. I was the same way as far as having no fun at first. I trudged through it until I started getting the hang of it since I wanted it so badly. I'm still have a ways to go in terms of where I want to be. I hope you've found peace with it, and if not, will find a way to try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:25 AM
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Thanks, do you know why he stopped selling "Women"?
/r/seduction26/01/20 05:23 AM
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Lol you told me you have a husband, which is it? Get out of the sub, no one wants you here. Got in a couple spats with some idiot misogynist who is clearly an incel but claimed to have a wife The irony is palpable! Project much?
/r/seduction25/01/20 11:48 PM
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Lol what a total bitch.
/r/seduction25/01/20 11:46 PM
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It's good, assume attraction my dude.
/r/seduction25/01/20 11:44 PM
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He's making a lot of mistakes, but what a cool vid! I love his persistence and the laughs.
/r/seduction25/01/20 11:42 PM
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She was preening by the end my dude. Why are you still here?
/r/seduction25/01/20 11:36 PM
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becoming deadened and psychopathic, depressed, etc.) That isn't actually what happens. You get more confident and happier because the social pressure doesn't effect you as much. It gives you a lot of freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:04 PM
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Suit yourself dude. That approach is an example of an especially bad set. The explanation for it was cut for obvious meme reasons.
/r/seduction25/01/20 07:01 AM
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Almost everyone on here are complete newbies. If you haven't done at least a few hundred approaches you're not usually going to start seeing competence. The techniques aren't magic bullets, like any skill they require training to get down right. Delivery and being able to at least sound confident come with time. You don't show a dude how to dribble then expect him to be breaking ankles in his first game, that's the same thing for pickup theory vs practice. I've seen FR's from guys on reddit who …
/r/seduction25/01/20 03:31 AM
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realized that 98 % of the time I'm surrounded by idiots. I was happy you came to this realization and expected the way I went: that means I don't have to worry about their opinion and I can have fun with them without consequence.
/r/askTRP25/01/20 01:11 AM
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ToddV's got a good video on it on youtube.
/r/askTRP25/01/20 01:08 AM
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It's stylistic. The fundamentals are more important. Look at Russel Brand vs Robbie Williams vs Robert Downy Jr. vs George Cloony.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:59 AM
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Try it before running your mouth.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:55 AM
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Try it before talking about it.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:54 AM
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But back then, the community would actively call them out and shun them. Now they're protected Oh and were the callouts fun. Back then you built reputations and you knew who could speak from experience. There are a bunch of guys around here who know what they're talking about. /u/PiperBigbell /u/WIA20XX /u/Leionart /u/grrinchas /u/FairAnalyst among others.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:52 AM
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Bro. Try it before you talk about it.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:52 AM
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Dude, you're autistic or deluding yourself if that's you interpretation of those infields.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:51 AM
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force attraction It's a meme from guys who think they know how attraction works but haven't tried techniques in any meaningful way. The dudes on here who don't go out bandy it about.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:49 AM
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How about before you start talking about push/pull and negging, get a fucking haircut. Ditch the 10 year old jeans you’re wearing and get some nice shoes and don’t hit the club in your dirty sneakers. Yeah, I was there when I started too. Thanks for posting this. It's nice to have more voices of reason around here.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:46 AM
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I don't think Todd is actually that good/succcessful (probably has a similar success rate to most of us) How much have you actually tried dude? Stop speaking like you know shit if you haven't done enough approaches to know.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:36 AM
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Yeah, most of what's taught these days is ineffectual woo woo bs. Models is trash, modern RSD is trash, and this sub is mostly hot garbage. There are a few really solid players on this board trying to give real advice. But just look through this thread. You're recommending models, most of the dudes in here are spouting complete conjecture without any experience. The old community would have laughed you guys out of the forum, because they went out and approached thousands of girls, found what act…
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:33 AM
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Dude if you think 3% is low what are you smoking? Like that's 3% of really hot girls. You only have to approach 33 girls to lay a stunner. Also, it shakes out to be closer to 10% at advanced. 10 girls. So it becomes ridiculously easy.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:30 AM
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You can get interest or a number from the majority of 8/9s if you're low level advanced. The funnel gets worse than there.
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:28 AM
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Which one was it?
/r/seduction25/01/20 12:17 AM
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I understand that, "cold approach: a situation where you approach a stranger in person with no existing premise for the conversation" and "a emotionally uncomfortable, or frigid, or awkward conversation caused by unfamiliarity or antagonism" are two different ideas. In pickup we always use the word cold to denote the first idea. That's why I say you're equivocating on the words 'cold' and 'warm'. So if you want to argue on definitions, I prefer the former because it's typical parlance for pickup…
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:10 PM
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https://www.enotalone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432221 Common idea that girls will use.
/r/seduction24/01/20 05:40 AM
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they're usually warm and friendly off the bat on the date. You're equivocating on the word warm. A "warm approach" is when you have an introduction through mutual connection, a "cold approach" is a total stranger. The start of the date isn't the beginning of the interaction for a "cold approach", the open is.
/r/seduction24/01/20 05:32 AM
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Just being completely real, those girls are 7's at best AFAICT. Still that's impressive to be pulling anything more than land whales off tinder anyway. I'll stick to cold approach.
/r/seduction24/01/20 05:28 AM
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Yes?
/r/seduction24/01/20 05:19 AM
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make your game ​ sees women as object Game implies woman as object my dude. With influence you reduce the other person to object to some degree. We just decide to do it consciously, while you do it without understanding your actions. We're firemen, you just run over the hydrant.
/r/seduction23/01/20 09:00 PM
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Yup yup, just sayin she's gotta get over it if she wants to seduce.
/r/seduction23/01/20 08:53 PM
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extent* Practicing on your targets is a bad idea. So if there aren't a lot to choose from that's a good idea. Talking to people in a non-sexual context is in many ways a different skill. There are also a lot of extraneous variables in conversation with people who aren't attractive girls. There are quirks to conversations with attractive girls that you won't find elsewhere. Not to say there isn't crossover, or it isn't a useful skill, it's just not one-to-one and thus your practice isn't going to…
/r/seduction23/01/20 07:55 PM
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Stopped listening at "We don't have female friends." Having girls as friends who you aren't fucking for chemistry or other reasons is great. The intro is too long and your style is disorganized.
/r/seduction23/01/20 12:00 PM
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Good stuff. Do you have any stats for us as far as what kind of quality you pull off tinder? Personally the juice never seemed worth the squeeze. I can get numbers easily, but they're all <= 6 so I just do it for the text practice and flake.
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:40 AM
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The fuck?
/r/askTRP23/01/20 10:29 AM
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IMO being rusty means you should enforce the 3 second rule. As you get rid of AA, game plans become more reasonable.
/r/seduction23/01/20 10:25 AM
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House parties, clubs, bars, and concerts. Most of my lays were from cold approach, especially all the best ones. Girls love being approached, it's not creepy if you know what you're doing my dude.
/r/seduction23/01/20 10:18 AM
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See a therapist. Get some good game theory and start approaching. Game outperforms looks to an impressive degree.
/r/seduction23/01/20 10:16 AM
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A. So this one is tricky. I know I've lost comfort with girls and full on lost girls by doing this. In the second case, we were 15 mins into an interaction and she had bought me a drink earlier, she left to go to the restroom but asked me to stay put. I started talking to another girl. After coming back from the bathroom, she saw me talking to another girl and then immediately walked off. On the other side, I've lost girls who never showed up after leaving. I need more experience, but I think it…
/r/seduction23/01/20 10:12 AM
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It still might be worth posting so we can link it here and there.
/r/seduction23/01/20 10:01 AM
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Don't wait for IoI's, you're screwing over so many girls who aren't paying attention, can't tell your personality from afar, don't want to seem thirsty/awkward etc.
/r/seduction23/01/20 09:00 AM
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No prob, rock out.
/r/seduction23/01/20 08:54 AM
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gets your dick in the door Oof
/r/askTRP23/01/20 07:45 AM
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No, but you should see Trump and go: "If that dumb motherfucker is that confident, I should be so much more so." You want to have your own personality, then turn how much you are unapologetically you up to 11.
/r/askTRP23/01/20 06:43 AM
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The music they play is usually terrible I don't even hear the music at this point. I'm so focused on the girls. You can also learn to like the rhythm and ignore the rest of the song. Approaching lots of girls in a row will get you into a better mood. I highly recommend fitted earplugs 25db. You kinda just have to do it a lot. Learn to laugh at rejection, learn to enjoy flirting with beautiful women, learn to start approaching as much as possible. I used to hate clubs, now I love them because I m…
/r/askTRP23/01/20 06:40 AM
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Preach!
/r/askTRP23/01/20 06:31 AM
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If it makes you depressed you're doing it wrong, and drinking too much koolaid.
/r/askTRP23/01/20 06:29 AM
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Lack of a robust mental health care system, stigma, and poor public education. The poor bastards never stood a chance.
/r/askTRP23/01/20 06:24 AM
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No, pull your friends up with you, that's how you inspire loyalty. If they try to pull you down, that's when you let them go. As far as why guys can't make friends? Some combination of mental health issues, low EQ, bad early socialization. It's fixed through therapy/socializing.
/r/askTRP23/01/20 06:22 AM
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Go find examples of dudes with delusional confidence. Guys who have terrible influence on the world, who have little to nothing going for them, who don't have what you have to offer. Then ask yourself "What disservice am I doing these girls that these guys can rock up and I can't? I'm robbing them of the opportunity of being with me, and that's a dick move." Selectively remember parts of reference experiences too. There are all sorts of reframes you can do like this. Use your selective attention…
/r/askTRP23/01/20 06:14 AM
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Check out the sex subreddits, this is for pickup.
/r/seduction23/01/20 05:01 AM
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“just happens" or how do i get this guy Pick one. "It just happens" is something girls tell themselves and their friends so they don't have to feel slutty. It's a convenient lie.
/r/seduction23/01/20 04:30 AM
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Good list, thanks. I still see this as a supplement to technical mastery.
/r/seduction23/01/20 04:11 AM
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Have you done this journey yourself? Because I have. You should definitely learn from those mistakes, but being too confident in yourself might make you blind to it. You really can't do this without going through the awkward pain period. Guys want a shortcut, it doesn't exist. You have to try on confidence. It will come off as incongruent and people will get angry at you for it, even when you aren't being a dick. being too confident in yourself might make you blind to it Trying on confidence is …
/r/seduction23/01/20 04:06 AM
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He's not lying, he's just misinformed and doesn't have the motivation to experiment.
/r/seduction23/01/20 03:53 AM
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You hold your frame naturally when you’re confident Of course you do, but how do you get there? Seriously, give me concrete steps. Inner confidence doesn't have to be this nebulous concept. Even getting a confident frame is technical, you selectively interpret reference experiences. Positive psychology, see Martin Seligman, tells us that being happy and confident are delusional. In fact, when you don't understand what it is you're doing, you can't perfect it. If I'm in a highly social mood, I'll…
/r/seduction23/01/20 03:44 AM
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Every woman you creeped out when you were a "newb" adjusted her behavior accordingly to avoid that kind of interaction again. And the majority of women who I have approached were flattered or had fun were better for it. On net, I've given more than I've taken. Most girls I've approached would be annoyed with you for telling me not to. I've heard on multiple occasions girls say something like "damn your game is tight!" (that quote is my favorite way I've heard it) I only ever give advice against …
/r/seduction23/01/20 03:36 AM
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Love it. If anyone finds a more nuanced take on qualification that'd be cool. There are ways to qualify that are more subtle.
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:28 AM
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Nope. The reason why we break these phenomena down from the overarching idea "confidence", is a similar reason to why the advice "Just be yourself" and "Have confidence" is useless. Without technical understanding it is hard to construct practical solutions. You don't hand a someone with only a rudimentary understanding of arithmetic a polynomial and say "Just find the inflection points bro", you teach them calculus. Social dynamics aren't any different, as demonstrated by the fields of social a…
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:15 AM
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Try an experiment. Try that with 30 women. See what happens. I look forward to hearing the results. Gladly. I've approached thousands of women at this point. Unfortunately early in my pickup career I creeped girls out. These days I've gained enough skill that it basically never happens. Newbs and autists creep girls out, it's an unfortunate reality of pickup. It's amazing how much unorthodox behavior you can smooth over with the right demeanor. So my intuition says it'll be fine. We'll see. When…
/r/seduction23/01/20 12:52 AM
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/u/Ishouldbewriting83 in general seems abnormally afraid of strangers and negative about game on this sub. She's FDS, so that kinda tells you everything you need to know. Give it a shot, I doubt it'll work out poorly. I have parked and walked over to a girl on the street I saw before, she was flattered. Assume familiarity, and if someone ever seems nervous or alarmed give a statement of empathy and back off.
/r/seduction22/01/20 04:27 PM
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Those guys are so much better than me it's ridiculous. I can't bang 9's at will. My mid-game in shaky, there's just a lot that can go wrong even if the girl likes you. I haven't closed in the past 3 months, since I just started after a 7 year break. I've had a lot of close calls though. I should be a lot more consistent within the year. Maybe I will at that point, that'd be fun. Honestly I'd love to have infields of conversions from bitch-shields, AMOGing, and infields where the girl consents to…
/r/seduction22/01/20 03:31 PM
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Check your chat.
/r/seduction22/01/20 01:29 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:25 PM
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Royal%20you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:15 PM
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Again, royal you, I wasn't talking about /u/Eastuss here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:01 PM
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You're delusional. No I fucking mean it. You're better looking than me and I can attract most 8's I rock up to at this point, I'm tempted to say 9's too. You're better looking than so many dudes who slay it's not even funny. Get your mindset right.
/r/seduction22/01/20 12:58 PM
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'polite NO GIRL' I would be skeptical of this idea until you've maxed out your attraction game man. Assume attraction. You'll be amazed how your numbers change when you get adept. It doesn't help you to be insecure about your looks or your 'type'. "The girl should think you're irresistible if she has a brain in her head" or you can think "There is no reason I'm not enough" both frames will work. I guess the fact that all the pro's often disagree when it comes to outergame (some never do things l…
/r/seduction22/01/20 12:44 PM
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Sick :). What the dude did wrong: Made them verbalize that they were going to fuck him, no room for plausible deniability so they don't have to feel slutty. "Would you guys bang me?" He's chasing and he doesn't even know anything about them. Listen to his tonality here, it's rapport seeking and insecure. A higher value dude would have assumed they'd want to and made them convince him he should let them. Think Leo DiCaprio would act like this? Took his sunglasses off when she asked instead of ans…
/r/seduction22/01/20 12:18 PM
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Cool report, thanks.
/r/seduction22/01/20 12:05 PM
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i feel like this one was simply lack of attraction Look I know 100% with the highschool girl you weren't doing anything for attraction in your verbals. Are you using breaking rapport tonality and/or intense eye contact? It's too early to talk about your looks being the problem. You want to go into these interactions with the attitude that she would be incredibly lucky to have you. Like she's getting the opportunity of a lifetime.That's how you should be acting if you want to get attraction with …
/r/seduction22/01/20 12:01 PM
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Okay cool, just had to check. When did she stop being receptive? One thing that might be happening is delivery. It sounds like you were dropping lines then waiting for reactions. Ideally you throw in attraction/premise lines more subtly, while talking about something else. Give her a fraction of a second to respond and qualify, if she doesn't bite then you keep going. If you do it where it's obvious you're looking for a reaction, then it likely won't land. They should be delivered like they're a…
/r/seduction22/01/20 11:39 AM
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Why do professors at research institutions teach? It's the same answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 11:00 AM
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I don't believe that's possible. That's what MB says, here's my Big 5 though: https://imgur.com/a/xBcNV1W I don't consider what I do a facade. It may be calculated, but so is nearly everything else I do. Nothing about raw INTP is really appealing to woman Variability is wider than you might think. My best friend met her boyfriend when she was a bombshell (unfortunately she's aged and filled out), and he's a total shut-in. She worships the ground he stands on. He's wicked smart and overly soft sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:22 AM
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An average(american) woman is 5'4 and 170 pounds give or take. http://www.height-weight-chart.com/504-170.html Eeesh, I'd put those girls at < 3's. My rating system is skewed...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:09 AM
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Royal you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 09:56 AM
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I'm I/ENTP(semi-consciously shifted from INTP over a decade). I've done alright with game and am progressing steadily. I recommend trying it if it motivates you enough. Leaning into the dominant/cocky aspect helps outpace the naturally low amount of energy for social interaction. I basically just have to be careful not to put myself in a situation where I'm entertaining a group for more than a minute, I allow myself breaks when out, and spend more time in 1 on 1 interactions. I also put myself i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 09:37 AM
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You unnecessarily connect boring and introversion if I understood you correctly. Otherwise I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 09:20 AM
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Well then that's perfectly reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 08:27 AM
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Thanks.
/r/seduction22/01/20 08:00 AM
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Failure is a useful teacher but if you're getting blown out all the time because of the way you present yourself or awkwardness/insecurity, you don't learn what works. The core of the scientific method is falsification and repeatability. You cannot learn game without tons of failure, just like any other skill. Not having all those blowouts means you can't falsify. Failure isn't only A way to learn. It is the only way to learn. If you aren't failing, it is impossible to know what is and is not wo…
/r/seduction22/01/20 07:52 AM
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https://heartiste.org/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/
/r/seduction22/01/20 07:40 AM
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Most FRs get buried. This one didn't. Why? Because that's how many guys are trying to get themselves out of the friend-zone instead of learning game. Nevertheless, well done friend, thanks for the FR.
/r/seduction22/01/20 07:38 AM
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No, most guys don't even understand how differently women treat men with alpha or beta characteristics. Most guys can't read signals a girl likes them. Most men don't have enough experiences with girls to compare and contrast their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:33 AM
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I don't, but I'm also not going to give them an easy ride, they get an easy enough ride already What does that even mean? So you expect them to be as lazy as you? Then find a chick who is as lazy as you. THOTs are typically energetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:25 AM
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If a dude has any self worth he's not waiting that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:59 AM
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Virtually every single one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:56 AM
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genuine relationship without anything sexual That is called a platonic friendship, and they're wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:56 AM
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Physical? It'd be a serious mental strain but I probably wouldn't off myself. Emotional? Even though I bond deeply and love is such an exquisite feeling, I'd be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:52 AM
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This is probably best handled by a therapist. That said, getting really angry at her for moving on so quickly when I was devastated put it behind me. Not expressing it to her, but doing it privately. Also, clean break. Avoid all reminders of her possible.
/r/seduction22/01/20 06:46 AM
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Your boring personality isn't the reason she doesn't want fuck you -- it's the fact you're not hot enough. The cool thing about you thinking this, is that there's less competition for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:42 AM
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I want to be at home, cozy in my sanctuary I don't want to do anything for partners. I want to be lazy. whatever stupid shit THOTs find exciting Cool, so why expect them to do what YOU find exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:41 AM
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https://tylervigen.com/view_correlation?id=359 Nicolas cage movies cause people to drown themselves. Drowning makes people want to make Nicolas Cage movies. Dumb chance. Something else causes both. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:38 AM
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Take enjoying music, then add they enjoyment of moving your body, now add the enjoyment of artistic self expression. Boom. Dancing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:32 AM
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Men who tend to be more reserved, more passive, and less active are more easily brushed off than their female counterparts if they don’t change or at least project something else. Thems the breaks. Bring something to the table like she is or be a slug and accept your lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:30 AM
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Or you know, become an interesting person and have fun. But that takes effort and you can't just play WoW all day and expect it to happen. You have everything you need, but not everything you want, so learn to stop giving a shit or find help.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:25 AM
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It changes you because you have selection pressure to learn jokes, to show emotion, to become a good conversationalist, to tell good stories. You will naturally start to emulate your other friends who are more social. Look up neuroplasticity, read books like "The Brain That Changes Itself". You lack what is called in psychology a 'growth mindset'. Personality is not this static platonic trait inscribed unchanging in the universe. Virtually nothing neurological is. The more ingrained a habit is, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:22 AM
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External locus of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:15 AM
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I don't know how else to put it, because IME people take the idea of needing honing of their critical thinking skills super personally, when in reality it's a herculean task to be rational as a human. There isn't a great strategy afaict, and I have to rely on you to be open enough.
/r/askTRP22/01/20 04:39 AM
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she just laughed at me and said i had no game Hahahahaha. I'm not laughing at you here. I'm laughing at the situation. I've been there. Dude you gotta see the hilarity in that, you need to be able to take your ego out of it and laugh at yourself. Laugh at how ridiculously absurd that interaction was. That's funny as fuck. It should make you happier for the next approach. She's right you don't have any game, AND THAT'S OKAY! You'll get there, it'll just take practice. Girls do us a serious favor …
/r/seduction22/01/20 04:14 AM
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Don't practice on college campuses as a newbie, that's asking for trouble. Bars, clubs, malls, bookstores, cafes, parks. Do campuses when you're intermediate/advanced.
/r/seduction22/01/20 04:05 AM
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...for real or is this more black pill shenanigans?
/r/seduction22/01/20 03:59 AM
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I'm not sure if it's a good go-to strategy for getting a girl interested. Take the principle, leave the 'girlfriend' line. Girls chase guys who have a lot of girls after them. It's called pre-selection which is a special case of social proof. Most of game is meant to imply pre-selection.
/r/seduction22/01/20 03:46 AM
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IME this works best with almost all of the hottest girls in their early 20's. Less attractive girls tend to react less well to the behavior. You basically have to soften it based on the girl's self-perceived attractiveness.
/r/seduction22/01/20 01:40 AM
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This looks like it makes it too easy for her to walk away, I've never tried this approach. Field test first, ask later.
/r/seduction22/01/20 01:19 AM
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Of course it does, I do it. The dude is being sarcastic.
/r/seduction22/01/20 01:02 AM
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Get fucked troll.
/r/seduction21/01/20 05:26 PM
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Damn that's some impressive spin. You have a career in politics or law kid.
/r/seduction21/01/20 05:12 PM
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Because to the untrained eye, that infield looks terrible. It's the perfect material to fuel guys who don't want to see that they are responsible for their lot in life. If they can prove game isn't real, then they aren't responsible for their lackluster results, and they don't have to put in the work. It was an honest portrayal of a blowout after persisting hard. In reality the fact that Todd posted it shows dedication to the craft, to put real information out. The only other guys I know willing…
/r/seduction21/01/20 05:11 PM
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Not if you can't practice on hundreds (realistically thousands) of girls. It's a skill, and you can't use your girlfriend for reps.
/r/seduction21/01/20 02:02 PM
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Her: Yeah I bet you have been thinking of me all day and bet you cant wait till friday to see me Me: hahaha stfu, They say people who accuse others od that are the ones that think that themselves (thinking emoji) The fuck is it with these other comments and not teaching game? The problem with this response is that you softened it too much, so instead of you outframing the test she persisted with it, then you fell into hers. If you're going to re-frame it as she's projecting, don't soften it, and…
/r/askTRP21/01/20 01:32 PM
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Cool mindset.
/r/seduction21/01/20 07:21 AM
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You know what I just realized about this post, and that of most of the posts on this forum? You guys don't see yourselves at the cause of your lives. "I'm not good looking enough" "Isn't it the best feeling when you're passive and someone picks you?" "How do I get this one girl to like me?" What the fuck kind of way to live life is that? You see yourselves as object. There is one situation that feels great to be approached in: when you orchestrated it without her knowing.
/r/seduction21/01/20 07:20 AM
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Irrelevant. Embrace your majestic bitch tits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQWnBC2hmdc
/r/askTRP21/01/20 07:02 AM
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Want to know why this shit is complex? Because it's applied human psychology. #1 It's about the type of attention. You're sexually interested, but she has to impress you. Imagine you have 5 other girls hotter than her on speed dial, how would you act? #2 There's good theory out there about escalation. u/PiperBigBell is a good resource. Politically correct sources don't give you practical advice. #3 Be mysterious and hint at your awesome characteristics. Ask about her in a way that implies she ne…
/r/seduction21/01/20 06:40 AM
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The amount of rationalizing and muddled thinking in this thread is bonkers. Good game theory is instrumental. All this 'game is an art not a science' blabber is just intellectual laziness. Go out and try it.
/r/askTRP21/01/20 05:59 AM
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This is not an insult. Go read "Rationality A to Z" by Eliezer Yudkowsy or take a critical thinking class somewhere. At least read some of "A to Z", especially on biases, and then read a black pill forum. It becomes glaringly obvious what kind of errors in reasoning they're making. Apply this to RP too, there is some silly theory around here as well, but nowhere near the amount in BlackP forums. I'll continue to take TRP as the gospel. Do NOT do this. Kill all gurus, think for yourself.
/r/askTRP21/01/20 04:19 AM
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"I dont think we should have sex night". I'm bedazzled of this how people can shoot such a straight lie that is completely the opposite of their thinking and go on feel good about themselves. The reason why it's fine, is that the girl already wants to have sex with you. She just a) has to feel comfortable you aren't going to be pushy (or worse) and b) wants plausible deniability so she doesn't feel like a slut. If the line lets the girl have sex with you, who are you hurting? She's not an idiot,…
/r/seduction21/01/20 01:35 AM
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I feel lit would only work Go try it. u/Insaneflirt_max and I have, and this is how it shakes out practically. The theory is a little more fuzzy and multifaceted.
/r/seduction21/01/20 01:15 AM
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Irrelevant. Even if it wasn't irrelevant (it is) you gain nothing from thinking otherwise.
/r/seduction20/01/20 11:52 PM
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You're missing a lot of nuance and I'm not going to spell it out for you.
/r/seduction20/01/20 11:44 PM
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The problem is, that habit will turn sets around for you sometimes. In this set, green girl did not like him, middle girl could have gone either way, and right girl was shit-testy so he had a shot. I’ve had situations where the mother hen asked me to leave multiple times, but the girl I was into was loving me. That tendency sometimes ends up in sets like this, but it’s still the better move percentage wise. It's up to you where to draw the line.
/r/seduction20/01/20 11:38 PM
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Are you for real? No shit DQ'ing is a terrible idea without the girl already being into you. It's a mid-game tactic for when you want to hook for further escalation. That's why he mentions multiple times its relevance to escalation. is that they only 'work' when she is attracted to you. Nope. Attraction techniques spark or deepen attraction by enforcing attractive frames and/or getting her horny. Attractive frames are ones that imply social proof and preselection from other girls. Take a minute …
/r/seduction20/01/20 11:04 PM
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It's not extremely hard to fix. Start approaching, a lot, you self correct.
/r/askTRP20/01/20 01:53 PM
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You're miserable. Get your shit together.
/r/seduction20/01/20 01:33 PM
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Interesting, might be cool to try sometime due to the similar interest. I've only ever heard reddit meetups being aggressively awkward.
/r/seduction20/01/20 01:18 PM
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One thing she may be right about though, is that this is more effective for girls who are higher value. One reason being, there are far fewer men who are equal value to her, so they're scarce. Girl on reddit? Sorry probably not a looker let's be real.
/r/seduction20/01/20 01:10 PM
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Kill Your Ego .
/r/askTRP20/01/20 12:51 PM
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I could take it or leave it. I didn't earn it with skill. Just some fly threads, a pretty face, and some swagger. Well, I'm proud of the swagger.
/r/seduction20/01/20 12:04 PM
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It is quite literally the exact opposite. /u/Insaneflirt_max explains it.
/r/seduction20/01/20 11:30 AM
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it tends to go like this: That's because most dudes here don't go out, focus on the advice from the guys who do. Didn't really get the positive 'spike' from that line that I think it's supposed too It's dependent on the personality of the girl and how into you she is at this point. Keep doing it with other girls and you'll get a feel for it. ...Wait are you trolling here or autistic? This sounds like game-technique word salad and you're trying to push the narrative that game is nonsense. Or that…
/r/seduction20/01/20 11:14 AM
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Dude you're killing it, it takes most dudes years to hit numbers like that. absolutely no pattern with girls No, there are plenty of patterns. There is just enough noise that it's hard to sift through until you've done enough approaches. When you're as good as it sounds you are, hotter girls will be counterintuitively more receptive then less attractive girls. I want to highlight this experience because it is taking some time to get over and I feel it has set me back with approaching because of …
/r/seduction20/01/20 11:03 AM
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Epic. Happened my first time too brother, she was an 18yo stunner as well which makes it even funnier in retrospect. Consider ToddV or some other technical stuff instead of Models.
/r/seduction20/01/20 10:51 AM
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patiently waited I'm mildly horrified. Waiting that long for a girl to show me she can fuck well is pure insanity to me. But hey, different strokes.
/r/seduction20/01/20 10:46 AM
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she kept saying “Not while your brother is here” Classic. Congrats dude.
/r/seduction20/01/20 10:44 AM
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I think this sub is easily made by people aiming to get that girl, not to get girls. And in this I see you think the same. He's making fun of that mentality. I think the two of you are on the same page.
/r/seduction20/01/20 10:40 AM
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Oh sweet, if I'm not a normie does that mean I can unironically REEEEE? A small part of me has always wanted to.
/r/seduction20/01/20 10:36 AM
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want what you can’t have” thing That's basic psychology. It's what makes FOMO powerful. It's what drives much of pricing. Wanting what is scarce is not confined to dating. Disqualifiers most definitely make girls chase harder based on my experience. With one major caveat: she must still feel like you're attainable. Especially when they have options. The point is to show you're the best option of all the options she has. The guy who is in highest demand that she has a shot at is the one she wants…
/r/seduction20/01/20 06:46 AM
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What do you mean by serious? If you mean a committed relationship, the exact opposite is true. If you mean she's DTF, it'll just make her chase harder.
/r/seduction20/01/20 06:10 AM
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Cool cheers.
/r/seduction20/01/20 06:04 AM
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All of the above. The problem with social circles/clubs is that you don't have volume. The positive is that it's baby-town frolics if you have even basic game. It depends on where you're at in the skillset. I wouldn't do a lot of cold approach on campus as a newbie, if you can't consistently make recoveries and leave on a high note you might run into trouble. Don't psyche yourself out though, at this stage you MASSIVELY overestimate the risk. Every time you make an excuse to not make an approach…
/r/seduction20/01/20 05:59 AM
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I didn't see it as cringe. Even if that set didn't convert, that persistence is key. He almost had it at "What does that even mean?". I'm not thinking about that set, I'm thinking about the skill-set and the next 10. He also dropped a couple of golden frames. e.g. "You may have not seen each other in 6 months, but this is the only opportunity you'll ever have to meet me." EDIT: To the dudes who both want to get good at cold approach and think I'm nuts: You're going to bomb in set. A lot. There i…
/r/seduction20/01/20 04:02 AM
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Got some go-to's?
/r/seduction20/01/20 03:54 AM
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Do it again, and again, until you can. Be action oriented, not outcome oriented.
/r/seduction20/01/20 03:37 AM
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I used to think that, and there's some truth to it. Be unapologetic about who you are and assume she's the one who should be chasing your approval. That said, it's possible to have interests that are uncool. If most of your social life is caught up in Magic the Gathering, your lifestyle isn't going to be appealing or impressive to most stunning women. That doesn't mean lie about yourself or brag, but you should indirectly highlight the parts of yourself that she'll be impressed by. Maybe if you'…
/r/seduction20/01/20 03:22 AM
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I love all the comments here from dudes who haven't tried Todd's stuff, and girls who think they're un-gamable. Classic.
/r/seduction20/01/20 03:05 AM
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Whenever a girl says something that you have trouble dealing with. Say it to another girl later. That's where players came up with that line.
/r/seduction20/01/20 02:53 AM
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Eh, that's where subtlety comes in. When you're a cool dude who she's into, you would DQ if she does something you're not into. This is normal behavior from a confident man. Also, girls in their early 20's are basically the gold standard.
/r/seduction20/01/20 02:50 AM
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Yeah in the real world this isn't what happens. Imagine you're talking to an attractive dude, you're into him and you hope he's into you. He's go a great job, he's handsome, his friends are chill, you share a bunch of commonalities, but you say something stupid. He goes "...I'm not so sure this is going to work." How do you feel? Your stomach drops. Did you fuck up your chance?
/r/seduction20/01/20 02:16 AM
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"I love sports and I'm generally really sporty." She's qualifying here, if you two have implicitly or explicitly expressed that she's chasing your approval to be a sexual interest then this is great. " I really like that but I don't think we would get along I'd always win and you would be mad about it. " Cool, you give her approval, then you push again to make her chase harder. I don't like the idea of bragging here, and putting yourself in competition with her in sports. That seems insecure bec…
/r/seduction20/01/20 02:03 AM
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Go to thrift stores in rich areas, get some fly threads, then get them tailored. You'll look better than 99%+ of other guys and you'll spend less than $200 for a wardrobe.
/r/seduction20/01/20 01:47 AM
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Nah, he's right. The way you communicate that you're worth chasing is to show it's hard to win you over (because implicitly you have a lot of other girls who are hotter than her competing for your attention). Game works because it's implicit social proof. By all means, laugh, have fun, but understand you should communicate being just barely attainable.
/r/seduction20/01/20 01:44 AM
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Time and experience. This is the reason why most dudes give up man, you gotta power through this phase. The upside: this is the reason why most dudes give up. The fact that it's difficult is what makes cold approach so effective. I actually number closed two girls the last time I went out, even tho they turned out to be flakey Badass, understand that you can pull. Play to win. Night numbers aren't great, try to pull.
/r/seduction20/01/20 01:29 AM
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Nope, social proof for a guy is a matter of having a high degree of social acceptance. If a dude who is ridiculously handsome wants you as his friend, it only says good things about you. You're fucking up in your interactions somehow if you can't pull along with him. You want to ride that implicit social value that he's giving you. It should make you more confident, not less. Having a wing that doesn't suck is a precious thing man, take advantage. Girls love sex, her friend is not going to want …
/r/seduction20/01/20 01:22 AM
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Dude, give up.
/r/seduction19/01/20 04:12 PM
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What theory are you using, let's get some FR's from you.
/r/seduction19/01/20 04:11 PM
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Cry Epic.
/r/seduction19/01/20 04:08 PM
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Do you want to play to win or to not lose? Until you have had sex with the girl you have nothing. You have nothing to lose man. So many things can go wrong from smile to lay it's ridiculous. Simultaneously, your success shouldn't be determined by her reaction, but by your actions. I needed to remind myself of this actually, because I understand it during nightgame, but I keep stopping myself from closing baristas during daygame and I needed this frame. Thanks for jogging my memory.
/r/seduction19/01/20 03:59 PM
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Understand their opinion is irrelevant. If they criticize you, don't emotionally react, just be polite and change the subject. This both stops you from feeling emotionally effected, and communicates that their opinion is entirely irrelevant to you. Politeness is the ultimate power move in many situations, because it shows someone's actions aren't even worth thinking about.
/r/seduction19/01/20 03:50 PM
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Dirty 30s Stealing that.
/r/seduction19/01/20 03:43 PM
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This is some good field tested shit right here.
/r/seduction19/01/20 03:32 PM
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This is why I feel the best approach is to focus on the whole group first and not just one person Nah, it's stylistic. The harder you go on the girl early on, the harder it is to get trust with the friends though for sure. I like going for my girl first if possible, it puts less pressure on me to try to entertain the group, I then immediately introduce myself to nearby friends. You might have already encountered how girls will huddle into a circle and block out everyone from entering I haven't d…
/r/seduction19/01/20 03:23 PM
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I realized something this morning. Nobody gives a fuck!! Lol the nostalgia on my end is real bro. because the only downside is basically getting a pang of “oh shit that didn’t go well” and then moving on. That actually goes away over time when you define success based on whether you took action, not on her reactions.
/r/seduction19/01/20 03:15 PM
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I tell dudes to approach a lot because both success and failure build confidence. When you approach a lot and get a bunch of blowouts, you realize that you're still fine after the experience. You didn't die, you're just fine, so you're free to do it again with. If it's hurting a lot to get rejected by girls you just met: good, that teaches you not to emotionally invest in girls who haven't earned it. If it's hurting, it's teaching you to take your ego out of the equation. Defining your self wort…
/r/seduction19/01/20 03:11 PM
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Not a field report.
/r/seduction19/01/20 03:05 PM
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The first premise line should be within the first 30 seconds, the second within the next minute and the third within the first 2-3 minutes. I actually like to establish premise as close to the open as I can, it adds energy to the interaction that I can use to manage her attention. You want to throw enough in to get her to buy into the frame, but ideally you're subtle enough about it that she doesn't see what you're doing. If you look at Todd's infields though, a ton of his speech is premise-y. I…
/r/seduction19/01/20 02:45 PM
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Todd talks at length about 'premise', you should look for videos of his on that. Ideally you want to use teases that point to a frame that if true, would lead to sex. The tease is a means to an end, and that end is to install a frame for the interaction. For example: "You're stunning, but I feel like I should wake up and run away." The line implies that she's seducing you and you are trying to resist her, and she needs to convince you to stay. "I think you're cute but I'm not too sure about you …
/r/seduction19/01/20 10:25 AM
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We used to call this the Apocalypse Opener. It's not recommended unless you're advanced, but it's fun to try. Try it on the hottest girls you can find, you get interesting results.
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:03 AM
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Every once in awhile they immediately become enamored too.
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:02 AM
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None of the answers here offer you the better alternative to learn. You write out the conversation in a field report and ask for feedback from dudes with more experience.
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:00 AM
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Yeah, I'm learning to right now when historically having a lot of experience with state game. AFAICT you rely more on verbals than subcommunications to do your attraction work for you.
/r/seduction19/01/20 12:58 AM
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bro sidebar
/r/seduction19/01/20 12:55 AM
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Can we get a specific interaction with the conversation?
/r/seduction19/01/20 12:54 AM
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This is a therapist or internist problem, not a reddit problem.
/r/seduction15/01/20 11:14 PM
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In my experience if the girl is attracted to you, she reframes it to "Oh he's so self-confident he can go out alone." That might not work as well with the friends though. But yeah totally, if you can engineer a situation where she makes the decision to talk to you it gives you a head start. Any time you can make it seem like she's gaming you, do so. Any time you can make it look like you're trying less, do so. The point of game is to not look like you're gaming.
/r/seduction15/01/20 09:54 PM
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Re-frame it as being a positive. Like 'it makes me seem more attainable'.
/r/seduction15/01/20 09:42 PM
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There are two kinds of silences. You locking up from intimidation, or a conversational vacuum. The former is a symptom of the deeper issue that you're more invested than she is, or that you think she's above you. The later is a way to make the girl chase when she's invested enough.
/r/seduction15/01/20 09:39 PM
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Experience, and calibration to the girl. Try pushing a few girls too hard until they finally snap.
/r/seduction15/01/20 09:10 PM
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I would bet these guys played 'sweety game' (obviously they don't see it as game). You can land a girl by being super sweet to her, with just enough challenging. She's not going to fully respect you though, and you won't get her all in the bedroom. You can't really run sweety game off of cold approach, you need to build rapport over time. I landed a 9 this way once, but having been the below category in previous relationships, it was glaringly obvious to me how she was treating me differently th…
/r/seduction15/01/20 09:05 PM
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I have the opposite problem. I have about 1/10th the lays I would have if I just pulled girls whenever they tried to pull me no matter what they looked like. The upside of your situation is that you have tons of practice pulling and escalating physically. The downside is the entitlement, which can be fixed with positive self talk, writing, and focusing on positive reference experiences. I have an easier time feeling entitled to hotties, but less experience for pulling them. My attraction game is…
/r/seduction15/01/20 08:53 PM
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I can't remember the name of the drug they use for hair loss, but apparently after a month it kills your sex drive.
/r/seduction11/01/20 02:26 AM
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Try laser eye contact.
/r/seduction11/01/20 02:24 AM
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Do what actors do and rant/monologue in the mood you want to be in. Do this in a private place before socializing obviously. Talk to a lot of girls in quick succession, less than 30 seconds between each interaction.
/r/seduction11/01/20 02:22 AM
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So since it feels like no one here has picked them up, this is how 8+ are different: tldr; they're mostly just less forgiving early on. When you half-step to these girls or your subcoms are mixed, they shit test hard (learn to deal with backturns). When your subcoms are solid they are sweet from square one, and basically stay that way unless you fuck up. If you're timid, girls like this will be angelic, but see you as a puppy dog. When you emotionally flinch with these girls before the lay it wi…
/r/askTRP10/01/20 08:07 PM
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I've been exactly where you are. I wasted 7 years on that mindset, approach more so you give fewer fucks.
/r/askTRP10/01/20 07:24 PM
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The only way that works. The more intense and consistent the better.
/r/askTRP10/01/20 06:54 PM
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Damn, that was epic.
/r/askTRP10/01/20 11:03 AM
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Never had that problem when skinny. I'm articulate, dress swaggy, and come off as solid though. It's about the package, you have to work with the hand you're dealt.
/r/askTRP10/01/20 10:40 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68X1sqr9Prg
/r/seduction10/01/20 09:53 AM
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Yeah, venue change. You also could have had her wait in line with you.
/r/seduction10/01/20 09:43 AM
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Well done :). The easiest way to get over the platonic problem is by using sexual laser eye contact. Summon up a sexual feeling in yourself as well. The training wheels way is to imagine yourself having sex with her while you talk to her. Eventually you learn to do it on a whim. I know how to do the rest of it theoretically but I'm not great at it yet so I'll let someone else chime in.
/r/seduction10/01/20 09:40 AM
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My derp
/r/seduction10/01/20 09:25 AM
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dont let my death be the end of ur feelings. love another one, just keep me in ur thoghts. Didn't want him to move on even after traumatizing him, that's fucked.
/r/askTRP10/01/20 06:16 AM
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I mostly agree with what you're saying here. There's this common refrain that learning PUA is more a process of unlearning than it is learning. It's a lot more than fear you need to unlearn though. I have a more strict definition of natural as someone who gets the results of highly advanced PUAs without any training. That was the definition bandied about ten years ago.
/r/seduction10/01/20 05:38 AM
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This reads like fiction... EDIT: New account, looks matter and game don't real comments, yeah this dude is trolling.
/r/seduction10/01/20 04:50 AM
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Yeah he probably approached her on the street and then asked her to run the skit at the beginning. His game isn't even that solid. He's a foreign dude with a social job, and she's probably pretty average for Minsk. Nothing a normal dude couldn't do. Naturals have a lot more presence to them. Look at Evil Stifler if you want an example.
/r/seduction10/01/20 04:08 AM
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I could say the same thing for a high class chocolate cake at the right time and place. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:03 AM
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Eh, the model is too simplistic. Whether a girl will cheat when she's attracted is roughly a battle between two different clusters of the brain. I had a girl verbalize it once. She told me when I first met her that she had a boyfriend. After a minute or so I had her sitting on my lap, giving me bambi eyes, she then goes "Okay I need to go before I fall any more in love." Then she jogs off. She was deeply attracted, but her neocortex told her that she should be a better person, and that self cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:44 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e9g9af/essentials_of_seduction_pickup_boyfriend_vibe_vs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/seduction09/01/20 11:41 PM
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Not only own it, but put some emotion behind it.
/r/seduction09/01/20 11:39 PM
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Bingo
/r/seduction09/01/20 11:36 PM
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So you read her mind?
/r/seduction09/01/20 10:28 AM
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Try this: Next time you run into a question like this, answer the question with passion. Tell her why you think it's so cool. Not in a way that tries to convince her that it's cool so she'll like you, but because you want to talk about it for the sake of expressing yourself. It's the emotion behind the speech that matters when you talk to a girl. There is obviously a limit here, but it's nowhere near where you think it is. Because my guess is that when you've been answering this question, you've…
/r/seduction09/01/20 10:21 AM
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trash
/r/seduction09/01/20 10:15 AM
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This one feels off...
/r/seduction09/01/20 10:05 AM
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And you know this how? I hope you'll say you've tried it and you're not just talking out of your ass. Because I have lost count of the number of times I've pulled it off.
/r/seduction09/01/20 09:58 AM
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You’re right that the pickup gurus will tell you that there’s a reframe to get around this ->”It’s fun to get rejected” It's more nuanced than that. You want to focus on the positive parts of the approach (even if the approach objectively sucked), and focus on what was funny about the approach, and be psyched that you had the balls to do it. This has three main effects. It makes it such that you don't feel worse when a girl revokes positive stimulus. It reverses the approach from hurting, to mak…
/r/seduction09/01/20 09:43 AM
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Nope sex was most def what I was craving at that age.
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:43 AM
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Depends on the kind. You could give her a story to tell herself and it could last decades, or you could just get her horny and it could last minutes.
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:10 AM
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0.5ish
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:08 AM
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Can I be a respectful playboy? And if so, how? You can, you still have to be a challenge though. It's not necessary to be a dick, but you do have to make her win you over. You being an asshole drove girls to want to be favorable in your eyes. They wanted to be the girl who could soften you. You can accomplish the same thing, just by requiring them to impress you before you show them praise and affection.
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:06 AM
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That's why there's the concept of 'theory junkie' man. This is what it does to you. The reason why, is that one of the most important parts of game is to be in the moment. That's not woo-woo bs, it's because it effects your reaction time and subcommunications. This is why in the past, there was such an intense focus on 'field is king' and 'approach more girls'. Because approaching a lot of girls to some extent makes you auto-correct. You should spend >80% of your time in field and <20% in theory…
/r/seduction09/01/20 06:45 AM
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As a newbie? Yeah kinda, 21 bare minimum. That's enough to maintain AA resistance and slowly learn, but not enough to learn at a reasonable pace. There are so many random factors that it looks like total noise early on. You need a lot of references to make sense of it. EDIT: This shouldn't even be controversial on a pickup forum JFC.
/r/seduction09/01/20 06:22 AM
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This is how I deal with AA: https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/need_some_tips_on_dealing_with_shit_tests/f7gm83b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x In my mind, daygame is actually harder to get used to since there's less anonymity. It's easier if you go indirect. I almost exclusively nightgame though, I want to do more of it.
/r/seduction09/01/20 05:50 AM
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I've done well over 3 thousands approaches at this point. Times I legitimately freaked a girl out: 1. (if you hug a girl, do it slowly so you know she's down) Times I've been yelled at: ~20. Of those times, I wasn't even being a dick. I think in all of them it was because I was learning to be confident and not quite getting it yet. When you become intermediate, some girls get mean because they don't want to be hoodwinked by a fake alpha. Times I've been in a fight: 0. I've never had anyone call …
/r/seduction09/01/20 04:12 AM
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I don't think it went as well as you're saying, when it was a 1000/10 Heh, the point is just you need to feel like approaches went amazing no matter how well they went, because it improves your expectations and mood for the next interaction. While at the same time you want to critique them. Oh pulling is lingo for leading her to a place where the two of you can have sex. I'm serious when I say that she was most likely trying to get you to lead her somewhere to bone. I know this because I'm compa…
/r/seduction09/01/20 03:59 AM
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It doesn't really fit any flair. Field reports need to detailed enough to be learned from.
/r/seduction09/01/20 03:42 AM
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If you want to learn pickup, either download and watch the "Hotseat at Home" or Todd Valentine's "The System" then start approaching 50+ girls a week. If you want to go the normal route. Make some female friends and ask them to hook you up.
/r/seduction09/01/20 03:06 AM
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Wait til you get your first instant make out my dude.
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:53 AM
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GFTOW: Go Fuck Ten Other Women.
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:51 AM
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The book of yareally has a couple of posts on managing expectations and setting the frame for the relationship: https://www.scribd.com/document/393801548/book-of-yareally The basic idea is that you have to make it clear you don't judge her for just wanting sex, and you want to completely crush any hope whatsoever that you'll be her boyfriend. That will minimize pain, unfortunately doing that will only delay the inevitable ultimatum. I don't have enough experience to personally comment, I can jus…
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:44 AM
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Love this man, it's interesting just how much you turned that beginning around.
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:40 AM
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This isn't a field report.
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:21 AM
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This isn't a field report. It's theory.
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:20 AM
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Two possibilities: You came off like a potential boyfriend, in which case she's being real. It's a shit test. In most cases in person that is a shit-test.
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:16 AM
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It might have been. If it were my interaction it would have been. He was probably giving boyfriendy vibes though.
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:15 AM
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Girls IRL love it. The funny thing is whatever the girl's age is, she typically guesses that I'm her same age. I think it's rapport seeking.
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:05 AM
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you dont bring up age bc it's a disadvantage to you. strictly speaking from an outergame p.o.v., I disagree here, eliciting a shit-test and passing it can build a bunch of attraction. This was bread and butter of YaReally's game. You: ignore her and start a convo with others ( No, he offers to go outside because she's trying to isolate and pull him. yes you did show too much interest. No he didn't she was trying to pull him.
/r/seduction09/01/20 01:59 AM
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Firstly: That was epic! Do you know how many dudes have the cojones to cold approach sober? Like virtually none. Who the fuck would have the balls to do what you just did? Secondly, that approach was 1000/10, it was amazing man. If you have two children, one is retarded and another is normal do you love them equally? It’s the same thing with approaches. Lastly, we’re going to find something funny about it. Remind yourself of these every single time you approach. It should be a reflex. Alright, b…
/r/seduction09/01/20 01:37 AM
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Its pretty normal for skilled puas to have an attraction rate of 50% or higher. Yup that's my experience. I wish we had more data to be honest.
/r/seduction09/01/20 01:01 AM
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I've come to the same conclusion after 2 years of reading and watching PUA stuff. Okay my dude, but how much have you actually TRIED IT? How much have you experimented?
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:58 AM
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Kinda, it's more of a feedback loop. Humor makes a girl emotional which gets her hornier. Teasing makes you seem like you're screening so you're higher value. Then being higher value makes her more likely to laugh etc.
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:56 AM
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That's a really deep topic that there is a large body of established theory on. The Hotseat at Home or ToddV's The System, but not both, are a great start.
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:54 AM
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Did you read what I said? Did she say it before or after they started flirting with each other? Especially after they hooked up.
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:52 AM
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Except Julia Roberts thought Lovett was hot Girls backwards rationalize that a dude is hot if his game is tight. Hook up with enough girls and this becomes super apparent. It's bit how when you fall in love, you ignore or reframe all the faults of your partner.
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:44 AM
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Dude what the fuck happened to the community? Like, back on the RSD forum we used to have stupid posts like this, but most of the time they’d be laughed off the forum by dudes who actually went out and tried the tactics. What is it with all you dudes wanting excuses for sucking with women so you don’t have to go through the initial pain of rejection that it takes to get good? Like were there always this many defeatist cowards, they just didn’t hang out on pickup community forums? Are there more …
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:01 AM
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That girls nowadays are prioritising a guys looks over game. Bro, FFS go out and learn to AMOG a few Adonis type dudes and you'll see this is bullshit. It really isn't that hard.
/r/seduction08/01/20 11:37 PM
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Write.
/r/seduction08/01/20 11:34 PM
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The way out is to cut the alcohol and deal with the learning curve. Alcohol helps because it makes sure you aren’t thinking ahead and you’re bolder. You can learn to do those things while sober, but it requires practice, because you’re learning to emulate a behavior that occurs when certain parts of your brain are poisoned to the point of being inactive. What that means, is that when you learn to game without alcohol, you learn to deemphasize certain parts of your personality. You have to unlear…
/r/seduction08/01/20 11:31 PM
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No, that's beginner/intermediate game. Stage 1 of attracting hotties is being able to flow without thinking ahead. Also being able to be comfortable with rejection is a fairly early skill. It requires re-framing rejection immediately after you leave set. Advanced game is honed calibration, and understanding edge cases and internalizing theory into unconscious competence. Advanced game results increase in your consistency.
/r/seduction08/01/20 11:22 PM
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The best way is actually to stop thinking ahead in set. It gets hot girls chasing because you aren't seeking rapport.
/r/seduction08/01/20 11:19 PM
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;)
/r/seduction07/01/20 04:43 AM
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By the way, as for your schedule. A great tip is to be 15 minutes early to everything. That way you always have time to chat up that cute chick you run into. If you don't see one, read a book for 15 minutes.
/r/askTRP07/01/20 03:03 AM
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It doesn't matter. What matters is that you don't emotionally flinch. If you say yes, own it. /u/theUnBannableHulk knows what's up.
/r/askTRP07/01/20 12:31 AM
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I do mostly nightgame. But I've been hanging out a coffee shops and parks more lately. Some guys like bookstores. College campuses are great, like chilling at the library.
/r/askTRP07/01/20 12:09 AM
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Write that stuff out with a pen and paper, and think through it slowly. Analyze it to tell if it's true or not. If you can't do this, take a critical thinking class.
/r/seduction06/01/20 08:36 AM
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I'm realizing that the way I finally got over my ex after years was by getting mad... you may be on to something here.
/r/askTRP06/01/20 08:16 AM
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I'll give you the best check list item you need for pickup: "Approach three women a day" BOOM. if he [me] can't get laid in DC, he's not going to have success anywhere That dude can suck a bag of soggy dicks, everyone starts somewhere. but if that's something you guys thing would actually be beneficial, then I'll figure a way to work that into my schedule Do it. No doubt. Theory: A) If you want to do State-Based game (my favorite), find a download of the "Hotseat at Home". But don't seek out RSD…
/r/askTRP06/01/20 08:08 AM
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Confirmation and availability biases working in concert. The world is chaos, embrace it, let it fuel you.
/r/askTRP06/01/20 07:56 AM
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It was. It's been 7 years since I swam in circles that use that term so I don't use it readily. More specifically social macro-momentum.
/r/askTRP06/01/20 07:24 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/eiae1m/been_out_of_the_game_for_1_year/fd8avbr?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x You have to remember that no matter how real an excuse feels in the moment, it's ultimately a phantom rationalization of anxiety.
/r/seduction06/01/20 06:19 AM
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The innocence feels too precious to spoil...
/r/seduction06/01/20 06:16 AM
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Theory: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ekar32/how_do_i_enjoy_myself_while_clubbing/fd8e8f7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x Practice: Bars are amazing once you know what the fundamentals are.
/r/seduction06/01/20 04:13 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ekhskt/dont_worry_about_openers_is_bullshit_when_youre_a/fdbsv1c?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/seduction06/01/20 03:59 AM
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Go to bars and clubs and don't drink, now it's free :) . "I have a boyfriend" is a standard rejection, it just means your approach is weak. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ekar32/how_do_i_enjoy_myself_while_clubbing/fd8e8f7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/seduction06/01/20 03:41 AM
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"For all your intents and purposes, no"
/r/seduction06/01/20 03:16 AM
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I went out for 30 days in a row chatting up girls. I felt something very similar. Pulled three 7+ girls in same week, and had a fourth loudly profess her love for me at a house party. We used to call it the 30 day challenge. Huh, maybe I should try that again...
/r/askTRP06/01/20 02:34 AM
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I got in here didn’t I Over-gaming or you had bad subcoms. Okay based on the second one it sounds like these girls liked you and you over-gamed and thus looked insecure. ​ " They switch gears to asking serious questions when you pass the “hook point” where they’re actually interested in you (so you’ve entered A2 accordin to Mystery Method). They’re interested/attracted at this point so they want some real answers to make sure it’s safe to continue being attracted to you. If you keep teasing, the…
/r/askTRP06/01/20 02:20 AM
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Oooof.
/r/askTRP06/01/20 02:14 AM
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"Hi I'm Hubble"
/r/seduction06/01/20 02:06 AM
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So good novels that are somewhat pickup related: PIMP by Iceberg Slim Women by Charles Bukowski Favorite Novel that isn't pickup related: Dune
/r/seduction06/01/20 02:04 AM
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Black pill chode
/r/seduction06/01/20 01:58 AM
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w00t!
/r/seduction06/01/20 01:56 AM
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Google 'qualification PUA' or look up youtube videos by ToddV on 'Evaluation'.
/r/seduction06/01/20 01:38 AM
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If she's into you and needs encouragement, yeah. If she's not, no. Ideally you would also tell her why.
/r/seduction06/01/20 01:36 AM
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Yeah an open question like that is a great idea, it elicits a lot of investment. The caution is that she won't take the opportunity if she isn't already qualifying.
/r/seduction06/01/20 01:34 AM
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Adding to this: Todd's view is that you should try to add more premise in your opener as a newbie. Since newbies typically have trouble showing they're there in a sexual capacity. So man-to-woman compliments or push-pulls are preferred.
/r/seduction06/01/20 01:31 AM
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So as is typical with women's dating advice there are some hidden pearls in here, and some major pitfalls. I'm coming at this from the standpoint on how to pick up a girl efficiently. If you're trying to just make a friend, this is terrific advice. Starting up a topic that really interests me Nope, it should be the opposite. You want the girl to be reacting to you at every stage of the interaction. Getting onto topics that she is more knowledgeable about can easily put you into reaction and onto…
/r/seduction06/01/20 01:09 AM
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You can actually turn rejections into fuel. Say these three things immediately after: "Who the fuck has the balls to do that?" "That approach was 1000/10" What was funny about it? With each rejection you feel less social pressure. So rejections are a shortcut to confidence if you frame them right.
/r/askTRP05/01/20 10:23 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ekar32/how_do_i_enjoy_myself_while_clubbing/fd8e8f7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x Go get a little practice and with your looks you'll be fine quickly.
/r/seduction05/01/20 10:12 PM
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I'm just adding onto /u/grrinchas . He's right, but I'm highlighting the other side of the story. Say. Anything. I don't care if it's "herp derp". The real key is to feel like what you have to say is valuable. "Anything I say is fascinating simply because it comes from me." Lower the bar for how good your conversation has to be. Don't filter yourself, the act of filtering puts the girl on a pedestal and she can feel it. Sounds strange? Cool, that's game: counter-intuitive. Try it first before kn…
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:58 PM
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State-Based game centers around having control of your own emotions. You internalize beliefs and develop habits to pump your state, and project it onto others. It's hard to learn, but not impossible. Dungeons and Dragons analogy: If Technical players are Wizards, State players are Sorcerers. Your better States become more effective, and your baseline becomes more attractive over time. The cool thing about State game is that you naturally emulate a lot of Technical game (because technical game is…
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:58 PM
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But when you took coaching with Tyler, did you get laid? Nah, there was a girl who wanted me to take her home if I said I'd be her boyfriend. The approach was actually tons of fun. Julien noticed a random guy doing poorly with a girl so he told me to calmly push the dude out of the way and introduce myself. In the end I wasn't that into her, she was about a 7. I had a couple near misses with hotter girls too. I got laid at a concert a week later using their teachings though. Then at college anot…
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:24 PM
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Solid, thanks.
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:08 PM
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Meh, I think their old stuff is still state of the art for State-Based game. They do have shady practices of using overly complex jargon to preserve IP and take advantage of maladjusted dudes. Their new direction is worse than ever. I still respect Tyler for all the advancements he made in theory and making some legit products. I took a bootcamp with him. I don't regret it, it showed me what was possible.
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:00 PM
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showed up here out of the blue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 05:40 PM
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The Shallows is a great book on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 05:05 PM
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Solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 05:03 PM
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brass tax brass tacks, like thumb tacks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 05:00 PM
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https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/8/1/20750047/millennials-poll-loneliness There are probably over 20% even if they aren't claiming MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:56 PM
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Holy track marks batman!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/20 04:46 PM
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Figure out what she tries hard to do, then give her a genuine compliment about her ability to do that. You can also try push-pulls "You're cute but you look like trouble" it's pairing a negative with a positive.
/r/seduction05/01/20 04:32 PM
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Completely normal when you're new. It happens increasingly less often as you get better.
/r/seduction05/01/20 04:28 PM
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What's it like to be a wizard? If you want to learn game: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ekar32/how_do_i_enjoy_myself_while_clubbing/fd8e8f7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:48 PM
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Give this a shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfxqO6okNIE
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:44 PM
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Am I rationalizing my constant fear of approaching at bars alone by saying it’s just not my environment? Yes. You haven't even tried. Being afraid is normal, it's totally excusable. When you're approaching, you're fighting tens of thousands of years of evolutionary baggage telling you not to. Not approaching? That's just absurd and silly. There's no downside in modern society! Any excuse you come up with in the moment will crumble into nonsense upon further inspection. Bars, clubs, and concerts …
/r/seduction05/01/20 10:01 AM
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You need some solid theory to work off of. A) If you want to do State-Based game (my favorite), find a download of the "Hotseat at Home". But don't seek out RSD's new stuff, everything you'll need is in there, and their new stuff is useless. B) If you want to do technical game, buy/download Todd Valentine's "The System". Those are state of the art theory, the key is to do the exercises. Only use one of them, don't buy/download both or it'll confuse you as a newbie.
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:43 AM
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Oooooh I like the hands heart opener, stealing that.
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:27 AM
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once you start getting more positive feedback your confidence will start to come back You can also turn rejections into confidence though. "Who the fuck has the balls to do that?" "That approach was 1000/10", "What was funny about that interaction" and come out of every interaction with a smile, because your actions pump you up, not her reactions.
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:23 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/need_some_tips_on_dealing_with_shit_tests/f7gm83b?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x Currently coming back from a SEVEN year hiatus. This was how I broke through.
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:21 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/need_some_tips_on_dealing_with_shit_tests/f7gm83b?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:20 AM
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Epic! Keep going.
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:11 AM
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You're welcome. The oldschool guys used to say GFTOW(Go Fuck Ten Other Women). Have fun :)
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:07 AM
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Don't wait for IoI's, you don't need eye contact at first. My favorite way to approach is actually tapping on the shoulder from her side, in the rare event that a hot girl is approachable from the front I'll do that. When approaching on the dance floor you don't have to match the energy, only the intensity. Then if you're not into dancing, after under a minute you lead her to another part of the bar. You don't have to be dancing to approach on the dance floor, you set the frame/rhythm of the int…
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:00 AM
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Absolutely! There's a shortcut though. Imagine you're speaking authoritatively at a lecture, or excitedly telling an epic tale. Feel the emotion behind it, you want to infect others with that intensity.
/r/seduction05/01/20 08:49 AM
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They're doing events, but their theory has become increasingly more woo-woo and less actionable. They're going to become increasingly irrelevant to game.
/r/seduction05/01/20 08:45 AM
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Honestly, it doesn't matter that much. You should go direct if you're new though.
/r/seduction05/01/20 08:32 AM
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between 20 and 30 Cool, that isn't enough to say. Of course, I haven't tried it the other way. Maybe it works better. I don't really care to find out. Cool, and that's where we differ. I'm looking for the highest percentage moves to land the highest quality women I can. The tighter I can hone my game, the better. I won't accept second rate theory, and I won't abide people spreading second rate theory to others. my advice to those people is to treat the women they are hitting on with respect. And…
/r/seduction05/01/20 08:20 AM
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So you basically discovered the soft next: https://blackdragonblog.com/2016/07/11/several-real-life-examples-soft-nexts/ But not in a relationship context.
/r/seduction05/01/20 07:56 AM
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You don't want to move on as a tactic to get her. You have to actually do it for yourself, and to kill it with other girls. If you do it as a tactic, even when she comes back, you'll be in a headspace that will repel her. Rather, if you're too focused on other girls to care much and your game has progressed, it'll be easy to get her. Also, there are MUCH better girls out there dude. In the very unlikely event that you do get her now, she'll walk all over you.
/r/seduction05/01/20 07:50 AM
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You have to stop putting on a persona. You're trying too hard. That doesn't mean be a wallflower, it means don't put on a song and dance to impress others. Whatever you're doing that amuses, do it for yourself and let others enjoy that feeling off of you or let your jokes be incidentally funny to them.
/r/seduction05/01/20 07:44 AM
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I don't have one I don't need an exact number, I just need a ballpark. <5? <10? <50? <100 ? I'm not trying to shame you for a bad success rate. I'd never do that. I'm trying to figure out the soundness of a theory. Because my intuition about asking is that it makes girls feel safer with you, but it also makes them feel like you're only a certain level of attractiveness. I'd bet it's a leveling behavior. It caps your value at a certain level. So it should work well with <=7's but for the 8/9/10's…
/r/seduction05/01/20 07:19 AM
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That's suspiciously impressive. How many times have you done this?
/r/seduction05/01/20 05:34 AM
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Sick, thanks I'll check it out. I have no idea who f*cked up the definition of it, but it's sure not useful. A frustrating amount of that has happened in the community, I'm hoping we can re-standardize in the near future. Gonna nit-pick on the rejection thing. I actually gain state from rejections. The increased resistance to social pressure decreases AA, increases resistance to shit-tests, and increases my outcome independence, and lowers my reactivity.
/r/seduction05/01/20 05:08 AM
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Wrong, it communicates you don't 'just get it'. That you aren't experienced enough to read her. You also force her to rationalize why she said no to you, thus making future escalations harder. But if you insist on doing this, it's infinitely better than the other extreme. Just as in other escalation, keep in mind that if she says no it's critically important that you do not feel bad at all. Do not even allow yourself the slightest emotional flinch. Keep the conversation flowing like nothing happ…
/r/seduction05/01/20 04:57 AM
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Going in for a kiss before she is ready (and getting denied) can be a deal killer for a new relationship No no no no no. I'm surprised no one has corrected this yet because it's so key: A failed escalation will barely hurt your case, or it will likely help your case IF AND ONLY IF you're chill about the rejection. You should not feel even an iota of disappointment or state drop. If you were talking when you tried the escalation keep talking like nothing happened. If it's not a big deal to you, i…
/r/seduction05/01/20 04:40 AM
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I like Todd's formula: "Is she moving the interaction forward or backward?" Girls will rescind all IoI's in order to see if your state will drop sometimes. The lesson that you're talking about is that you shouldn't tie your state to IoI's. That's true. Learn to read IOIs as good as you can Sure, the problem is that when you're new you're going to be bad at it, and going to throw away a bunch of opportunities. That doesn't mean you should escalate when you don't see a green light. But you shouldn…
/r/seduction05/01/20 04:33 AM
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make sure the girl is enjoying herself and comfortable You NEVER want to make the girl uncomfortable. You are watching her for tenseness, or pupils contracting, or vocal tone shifts like a fucking hawk. You're paying attention to how comfortable she is when you get close, to how she responds to your touch. She could be chewing you out, but you can stay cool as ice assured that she thinks you're hot. That doesn't mean you'd be escalating in that moment though. For example: https://www.reddit.com/…
/r/seduction05/01/20 04:09 AM
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w00t! If leagues exist, they don't apply to you. No other dude compares to you man. These girls are incredibly lucky to meet you at all, let alone having the honor of fucking you.
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:59 AM
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One time I never spoke a single word to this girl at a party and we hooked up. That can also happen if you're in the right state of mind.
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:41 AM
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Yes. Stop making excuses.
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:39 AM
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Damn, beat me to it.
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:37 AM
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You gotta get out man, any way you can.
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:34 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/need_some_tips_on_dealing_with_shit_tests/f7gm83b?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:33 AM
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I LOOK FORWARD to rejections. The harsher the better. With each rejection I get more unreactive to social pressure, it gets easier to attract hotter girls and pass shit-tests without flinching. The more it hurts, the stronger you get. It's like micro-tearing your muscles at the gym.
/r/seduction05/01/20 02:43 AM
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I've been noticing with girls recently that IoI's can be really subtle. I can see virtue in saying "Don't pay attention to IoI's" if your next sentence is "Just assume attraction, escalate, and calibrate after the fact, make sure the girl is enjoying herself and comfortable."
/r/seduction05/01/20 02:39 AM
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I read this from the book of YaReally yesterday on IoIs. I think it's great: ioi’s are often a lot more subtle than guys think, especially guys who don’t have experience with Game. Most guys are waiting for the girl to go “I want your cock in me” spread-legged on a table, and even THEN they’d go “do you think she was into me? Maybe she’s just flirty with everyone”. I can’t count the number of times I’ve watched friends throw away what are blatantly obvious opportunities because its so outside th…
/r/seduction05/01/20 02:33 AM
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I can see from the standpoint of the mods, real pua advice would be politically incorrect and thus put this reddit under risk. Yeah that's true. I recommended that we give flair for experience, maybe that would help a bit. That was how newbies could sort the good advice from the keyboard jockies back on the RSD forum. mastodan Oooo I just discovered this now. That's a great idea! Right now we have a private sub for guys who actively practice. It's also a place where some of the darker advice can…
/r/seduction05/01/20 02:13 AM
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Haha nice. That article is fire by the way, that and Todd's "How Cold Approach is a Cheat Code for Life" are my favorite takes on this.
/r/seduction05/01/20 01:46 AM
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My favorite encouragement from a girl was "I'm taken, but damn your game is tight, keep going!!!"
/r/seduction05/01/20 01:14 AM
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I wish there was more data on this. Here's one guy's progression. http://daygamenyc.com/2020/01/01/im-now-an-intermediate-level-daygamer/ In my case, it took me around 50 approaches for my first lay. After around 3k approaches I had around 14 with 7 being 8's and 5 being 9's. I also almost exclusively nightgame, which seems way harder to me. I talked to RSDTyler one time. He was saying that if you get lays in your first year, you're ahead of schedule. Year two should be about 3-4, year 3 you sho…
/r/seduction05/01/20 01:00 AM
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I mean, RoK was legit creepy. RSD has this frustrating tendency to take advantage of maladjusted dudes. They should give guys an accurate view of just how much work is involved in learning pickup, that would decrease their revenues significantly though. Since if I dude hears, "It will most likely take you 400ish approaches for your first lay, and thousands of approaches over a few years to be regularly bedding hotties with a low approach rate" he's most likely going to bounce. But their advice w…
/r/seduction05/01/20 12:32 AM
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Eh, there are some extremely adept ones. Psychology is a fascinating science with deep and wonderful findings.
/r/seduction05/01/20 12:21 AM
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Field test that shit. (most likely won't work though.)
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:28 PM
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Like a boss, now do 50+ more this week to celebrate!
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:26 PM
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you see how her eyes turn blurry with almost tears Damn dude and I thought I was cold.
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:25 PM
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Hah, you'll get there. Who moans more during sex? Go read The Book of Yareally and pay attention to the Anti Slut Defense sections. https://www.scribd.com/document/393801548/book-of-yareally Also read the All Women are Sluts post in this archive: web.archive.org/web/20170706185730/http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/5/#comment-heartiste-440730
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:18 PM
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Have you been socializing more than normal?
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:13 PM
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Crabs in a bucket.
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:04 PM
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Basically you're signalling that you have no friends. Nah, you're signaling you have the balls to strike out on your own and find adventure without the immediate aid of others. That you can find and make allies anywhere. If you backpack alone do people say it's because you have no friends? No they say "holy shit that's resourceful and brave." I have a bunch of amazing friends. I go out alone because it's more challenging and I have fewer distractions. Also the bars I go to so I have enough girls…
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:00 PM
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Stop making excuses and fly solo my dude. When your approach is weak and you tell them you're alone EXPECT to hear "Eww creepy." Also expect to hear "Oh you're so brave I wish I could do that!" when your approach rocks. Your response is "It's just me tonight." or "My friend left with a girl" or "My friends might come out, we'll see, if not whatever, some party some don't" To get past the bouncers, you need to dress normal, or fly as fuck if you can pull it off. You also need to act entitled like…
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:43 AM
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Bingo. You will creep girls out when you start, that's just the reality of the game.
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:40 AM
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"Hi I'm Hubble" is my go-to. It's simple and I don't have to think too hard about it. I've opened with push-pulls and that's fun but it feels like I'm trying too hard. Just knowing the theory, I notice that a lot of it naturally flows into my speech when I don't filter myself. Courage to cold approach. My experience is that with game the number of hot girls who are interested increases from like <1/20 to like 5/10 or more. My transitions are different, typically it's general get to know you ques…
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:31 AM
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Meh I disagree, also that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You're shooting yourself in the foot.
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:22 AM
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trololol
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:20 AM
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Peterson is a quack
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:19 AM
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sidebar
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:19 AM
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I'm not, I think it's badass. Pushing through social pressure that very few people could even when drunk? That's badass. Taking rejections and having it fuel and inspire you? That's some badass emotional judo. Being able to develop a Reality Distortion field, again, that kicks ass. Banging hotties: solid. I don't talk about all the lingo with people who aren't PUAs (it's just too much effort to explain the bad press, and why get nerdy with them about it when they're not going to join in?) but wh…
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:16 AM
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You've done that many, and you haven't noticed how drastically their reactions changed based on state or solid game? How is that even possible?
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:08 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/need_some_tips_on_dealing_with_shit_tests/f7gm83b?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:04 AM
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No like how many actually. What's the largest number in a night? Have you done hundreds? Thousands? Because if you haven't done at least 10 back to back without time in between, or you haven't done hundreds within a few months then you don't know what you're talking about. Without experiencing social momentum you can't really get it.
/r/seduction04/01/20 10:54 AM
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He's right though, I know because it jives with my field experience. I believe all the 'looks matter more than game' chodes don't have the courage to try it. Since it only takes a couple hundred approaches or being in State ONE TIME to get your mind blown and recognize that this stuff works.
/r/seduction04/01/20 10:53 AM
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This is a REALLY good sign. It also means you're probably missing a lot of opportunities. Assume attraction and try to close these girls.
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:31 AM
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I doubt this. If you approach a hot girl and you're mediocre they can get mean. If you're timid they're really sweet but don't see you in a sexual light.
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:30 AM
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For me, I believe direct is good if you are honestly have good honest signals I think that is true, but I don't agree with the second. YaReally famously was short and a bit chubby, and he crushed it because his verbals and honest signals were tight. He also purposefully elicited shit-tests by saying over the top sexual stuff immediately. Yeah I think indirect makes you more versatile, I have more fun being quasi-direct though.
/r/seduction04/01/20 03:07 AM
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Cool, learning game is like trying to catch someone riding a bike. The first time you try can keep up for a block then he gets away, eventually you can for 3 blocks, then you can almost touch the bike, then you can knock the dude off the bike and ride away. The idea of a pickup artist batting average is stupid. You slowly learn more and more skills, deeper and deeper, and get more and more consistent until you’re banging hotties on the reg. It takes thousands of approaches to get there, but it's…
/r/seduction04/01/20 02:39 AM
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All good, players usually hit up a few girls knowing that they're not loose yet and understanding that they'll probably stall out or make simply mistakes. Don't use this an excuse not to try for hot girls off the first approach or wherever you are, just understand that it's a strategy.
/r/seduction04/01/20 02:33 AM
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So I have two flows at this point I do. Normally I just start describing my apartment, but like it’s the coolest thing in the world. “So I have this door on my apartment, it’s black and brown <pregnant pause> not only that, but these colors are swirled in this fascinating pattern… Sometimes people come into the door, and sometimes they go out of the door, you never know with this door, it keeps you on your toes” It’s just silly nonsense, and I improvise on the spot with whatever tickles me. The …
/r/seduction04/01/20 02:31 AM
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I've seen the promotional materials. Looks like some seriously culty bullshit. Julien has always been the instructor with the least scruples, it's frustrating to see RSD go this route. Use RSD's older materials if you do. I like the Hotseat at Home.
/r/seduction04/01/20 01:52 AM
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100 isn't that many. That's like a month's worth.
/r/seduction04/01/20 01:27 AM
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Your company is running out of cash, and you're having troubles paying your employees. You ask "how do I pay my employees?" It's the same question. You need to have done your warmups beforehand, some of which will involve you running out of stuff to say . Also, you can't be filtering your speech. Everything you say is fascinating because it comes from you.
/r/seduction04/01/20 01:25 AM
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The later.
/r/seduction04/01/20 01:22 AM
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Girls have very little clue what they respond to. I could compliment a girl on her eyes and get a quick rejection, or I can get her lighting up like a Christmas tree. All the other stuff I'm doing is what makes the difference.
/r/seduction04/01/20 01:21 AM
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It doesn't really matter that much. What matters is the tone behind it. It's one of those things that makes a 1% difference, but if you have fun with it that's much more important.
/r/seduction04/01/20 01:20 AM
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The POOaaah lingo for this is Outcome Independence. My favorite definition of it is when you won't feel any worse if the girl leaves or rejects you. You also gave her room to chase since you weren't chasing her attention. Also, since your attractive buddy had been hitting on her and he failed, she might have been a bit sexually frustrated, making your work easier. It also sounds like you were in the moment. These are all important components of game.
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:51 AM
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Yeah, it depends on your goals. My goals surrounding women are a lot more ambitious, so spending time away from the game was actually terrible for my dating life. If I had lower standards, then it would have been fine.
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:44 AM
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I think direct/indirect is largely stylistic. What isn't though, is the idea that you are the prize. If the girl thinks that she can lose you by saying/doing something goofy, you're in a good place. If by direct you mean "I'm already sold on you because you're hot" then no, direct is bad game. If you're direct, the girl should still feel like you can go call up another chick, or pick up another girl from the bar. As soon as she feels you don't have better options and she's lucky, you're done. No…
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:11 AM
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Around how many approaches have you done?
/r/seduction04/01/20 12:07 AM
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So you can do this, but there’s actually a MUCH more powerful idea here you’re missing. If you divorce the emotion from the content of your speech, you can have that same enthusiastic/authoritative tone when talking about ANYTHING. It is that tone of speech that can get girls attracted. If you have the balls, try this exercise: make up a completely boring or nonsense story, then practice reciting it in as authoritative and exciting/emotional tone as possible. Do this with at least 70 groups. It …
/r/seduction03/01/20 10:54 PM
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Actually this is normal when you're doing really solid approaches. I've talked about this a lot in other comments. Hotter girls will be super into you, and will shit-test you much less often. But average girls will think you're making fun of them or know that they aren't good enough so they reject you for an ego boost. By getting a lot of rejections you become less reactive, hot girls can see/feel that and they respond well. Last night I was in this venue that is typically pretty hostile to me, …
/r/seduction03/01/20 10:20 PM
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Stop it.
/r/seduction02/01/20 07:05 AM
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Talk to strangers a lot. That intimidation stops eventually, but it's hard to kick so you have to push at it hard for like a month. Aim for a few approaches a day.
/r/seduction02/01/20 02:15 AM
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Her: I'm cold. Him: I'm pretty hot rn. Her: Then come over to me and cuddle. What did you say next here? Because this is a window to come over, or it's a shit-test. Like we can't give you help if we can't see some of the conversation, because you probably missed specific windows.
/r/seduction01/01/20 01:33 AM
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Gimme deets.: the conversation. ]
/r/seduction31/12/19 11:59 PM
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People seem to post them less now, but that's because the pattern here was getting boring and posting 'specifics' of field reports on this sub seemed to lead too a weird hindsight/confirmation bias. No, it’s because the majority of the posters aren’t going out. If a poster writes an Field Report using direct game and gets laid, everyone congratulates the poster on their direct game and sings it's praises. But if he fails to get laid, instead people now reply saying that one shouldn't go direct (…
/r/seduction31/12/19 11:16 PM
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I don't know where his game is now, but when I went out with him 7 years ago he saw me approaching the hottest girls in the venue, and said my standards were too high. Then he pulled a 5.
/r/seduction31/12/19 09:40 PM
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Going with what I'm good at tonight: "Hi I'm Hubble" then I'll bust out my mouthpiece and ramble.
/r/seduction31/12/19 09:30 PM
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Scarcity. Most dudes only fuck around 7 girls in his life. Few of them will be hot.
/r/seduction31/12/19 09:25 PM
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They don't disagree really, they just use different styles. Both styles work, and aren't totally exclusive to each other. State-Based(natural game) is also what I use, but even the purest State game needs some technicals (like pull strategies). One really interesting thing about State-Based game, is that you develop instincts over time that give you reflexes that conform to technical theory. Like I've done so many approaches that I naturally feel the urge to qualify the girl at certain moments, …
/r/seduction31/12/19 08:48 PM
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Guys don't have as many reference experiences so they're going to have strange reactions. Girls also learn to be very nice because otherwise they get fucked up responses. If you want to see this in action, hang out with a couple girls at the end of night when the club closes on the sidewalk outside the club. This is the point when AFC's have the most 'courage' to approach. When they get rejected, some dudes get MEAN like little bitches when they get rejected. It's a great lesson in empathy for g…
/r/seduction31/12/19 12:56 PM
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There are few guys giving real advice /u/PiperBigBell /u/WIA20XX among others. The advice those guys do write is sick though. I write FRs but I'm inconsistent and focus my reports on my mistakes so they're useful for advanced guys to see and poke holes in, but they're pointless for newbies. So I post most of them to private subs. When I get some recent LRs I'll post them.
/r/seduction31/12/19 11:47 AM
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A girl calling you handsome is a SERIOUS IOI. Also 'gay' is either a shit-test (which means they're attracted) or they're trying to get you to nut up and escalate. So yeah they were DTF. Lol you might have legit missed a threesome with a 9. No worries, easy come easy go. I missed a threesome with two nines (one was a stripper) TWICE. Yeah...
/r/seduction31/12/19 11:02 AM
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Preach! Pimp it. Love the username btw
/r/seduction31/12/19 10:30 AM
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I'd be tempted to make a vid if y'all wouldn't say it was all actors. Infields of AMOGing would be fucking cool though...
/r/seduction31/12/19 09:26 AM
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your mom is also nonsense
/r/seduction31/12/19 09:05 AM
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lol the salt is real. There are also lots of vids and FRs that show it works as well. You'll say the vids have actresses though. Some of them probably do, but not the ones I've seen. Tinder experiments are irrelevant because you don't have all the avenues of communication you need. That's why a lot of players avoid OLD, they get much hotter girls in person. I would never bang the girls I match with on tinder. I do this on a weekly basis my dude. I've seen some shit.
/r/seduction31/12/19 09:04 AM
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captain keyboard jockey away!
/r/seduction31/12/19 08:09 AM
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Your mom is nonsense
/r/seduction31/12/19 08:08 AM
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Netflix and no chill
/r/seduction31/12/19 08:07 AM
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You don't. But if you found yourself in such an ill-advised position, /u/WIA20XX's answer would work.
/r/seduction31/12/19 08:03 AM
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Your friend's good looks could have carried him. At the same time, I could do almost all of that to my body language and still have a very solid set. The eye contact would be the killer. Even with the eye-contact though, if I felt solid when I DID give it I'd probably be alright. This is why I say it's subtle and you need to be able to DO it. You don't know which parts are critical and which parts help by tiny percentages until you've tweaked the dials while in the driver's seat. The best way I …
/r/seduction31/12/19 07:29 AM
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Pickup is spamming lolnope, feels that way for awhile though.
/r/seduction31/12/19 06:55 AM
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Why wouldn't you start now? You'd get the advantage of learning with a handicap, so your game will have to be that much tighter to be successful (though to be honest it's much less of a handicap than you think).
/r/seduction31/12/19 05:24 AM
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black pill bs
/r/seduction31/12/19 05:09 AM
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Sure, that's a solid number close.
/r/seduction31/12/19 04:45 AM
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Oh my god that's so fucking adorable!!! That was the strangest experience watching them do an approach, then feeling the part of myself that critiques approaches apply all the heuristics. They're girls though, so very few of the heuristics I have would help them. The blonde repeating the same open 3 times was precious. Mainstream society will always hate on pickup, because it cheats the system. Guys who shouldn't be sleeping with the most sought after women do, with the aid of pickup. Girls pick…
/r/seduction31/12/19 04:44 AM
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Ooooh that is fascinating. So personal state-manipulation for game is gender-neutral. I've actually felt two girls projecting their emotional states onto me. One was wonderfully warm, and the other was electric. Neither had large pupils at the time though. Most people are fairly neutral, every once in awhile I'll meet an alpha who can state-project. I think when your job is to manipulate and seduce man, you start subconsciously control your physiological reactions (such as increase heart rate, b…
/r/seduction30/12/19 11:34 PM
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The fact that you even get approached is impressive my dude. It means you're seriously physically attractive. It also happens if you're delusionally confident. Like, I'm skinny, but I was delusionally confident last night, so a 7 walked up, and after 10 seconds of game she asked to kiss me, so we made out. Hot girls don't approach, like ever. The closest you'll get to a hot girl approaching is proximity. You need more confidence to bang the hottest girls. How do you get that confidence? There ar…
/r/seduction30/12/19 11:28 PM
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It'd be cool to see it in person. But I'd bet your attractive friend actually has better game then your other friends with 'amazing game'. What do they do that is amazing game?
/r/seduction30/12/19 09:45 PM
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If your attractive friend is also a natural, you would not be able to tell what he is doing right if you don't have game yourself. He can fake not having confidence and girls will see it as cute and only open up more to him. You can fake not being confident, but you can still feel confident. If that's the case, she'll still be attracted by your confidence (this is part of the law of state-transference, stupid name but w/e). The reason why is that girls' attraction responds to subtle behaviors th…
/r/seduction30/12/19 09:30 PM
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A phone number is WAY more than 30 seconds Phone numbers don't mean shit. You don't even need game to get a number, girls give them out like candy.
/r/seduction30/12/19 09:08 PM
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Because this question has been solved over and over by the community for the past 20 years. Do you actually want to know the answer? Theory answer: Go read basic theory, even classic Mystery Method covers it okay. ToddV has the most comprehensive explanation I've ever seen in The System, and he has a good youtube video on it IIRC. YaReally's archives has some decent explanations. In a nutshell, game exploits evolutionary psychological baggage, and looks hit the same emotions. Practical answer: A…
/r/seduction30/12/19 09:06 PM
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Yeah, but it's private to avoid dumb posts like this. When you've done over 100 lifetime cold approaches and also approach on a weekly basis, hit me up and we'll invite you.
/r/seduction30/12/19 08:34 PM
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The black part (pupil) gets wide for a bunch of different reasons normally. One of the reasons is because of arousal, which is when our sympathetic nervous system is more active than our parasympathetic nervous system. So for some reason, it seems like dudes who approach a lot get aroused (not sexually) easily when talking to girls. Like the act of approaching a lot conditions the response in us. Cool stuff.
/r/seduction30/12/19 08:31 PM
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Interesting, didn't know it had a name, thanks.
/r/seduction30/12/19 08:28 PM
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Try bumping it to three, so you have 1 or 2 to start getting warm. Good luck!
/r/seduction30/12/19 08:54 AM
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turned out she lived in an entirely different province, had a boyfriend, and was only here for the night Bro those are all reasons for her to go home with you. If you hear that a girl is there on vacation, your antenna should shoot up real fast. Girls on vacation are the easiest because they don't have to worry about you getting weird or their social circle finding out. The girl-talk/secret society word for it is 'vacation-fuck'.
/r/seduction30/12/19 08:47 AM
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Why the fuck do we allow these posts?
/r/seduction30/12/19 08:44 AM
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https://www.scribd.com/document/242355270/Boyfriend-Destroyers This is Classic RSDTyler.
/r/seduction30/12/19 08:40 AM
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I'm not asking if it's a problem. I have a theory that guys who are in State (a charismatic mood brought on by many approaches in quick succession) have the reaction. I've seen RSDTyler out, and he gets the same way after he warms up.
/r/seduction30/12/19 08:25 AM
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Nah, this has been happening for years and I check them in the mirror. It looks like I'm tripping balls. Psychologically it's arousal (non-sexual), and it's related to when I'm talking to cute girls and in State.
/r/seduction30/12/19 08:12 AM
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Cold approach game is the most effective way to get girls. There isn't a comparable substitute. The way girls treat you when you win them over by being nice, rather than being a boss, is like night and day. The guys who win girls over from being nice almost live in a different reality. After living both ways, I'd sooner off myself than live in the other reality. I don't really have an alternative to getting good at game.
/r/seduction26/12/19 08:31 AM
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Approach 3 girls a day. Get in better cardiovascular shape. Crush it in my work. Get to the point where I'm laying at least one new 8+ a week.
/r/seduction26/12/19 08:16 AM
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*tap tap* on the blonde. "Hi, I'm hubble" , turn to friend "Hubble" "Nice to meet y'all" dancer's handshake with the more attractive one, normal with the less so. target: "You're cute but you look like trouble." to other girl "You seem cool though." Ask my target where she's from, tease her about it, wait til she reciprocates, answer with my own pre-scripted answer customized to what kind of girl I think she is. Maybe I'll free associate off of her answer. If there's nothing interesting to free …
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:46 AM
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Well done. At this point, the only thing you need to do is keep going. You have all the theory, now just put it into daily practice.
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:36 AM
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Zone in on one person in the group at a time. Drive the most interesting conversation with that person. Keep everyone on your conversational thread. Don't put yourself in this position for too long of a time, because it takes effort. You can interrupt and drive the conversation to another topic whenever you want. The idea is to make the group react to you, not the other way around. If you just want to chill, then get other people explaining something to you while you evaluate and learn. You can …
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:22 AM
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Tyler from RSD has a bunch of videos on the steps he forces himself to take when he’s out to get out of his introspective “inside-my-head” mode and into a partying mode. Hit up his stuff on YouTube and try it out for like 6 months and see what gels for you. So the idea here isn’t that you’re changing yourself, it’s that you’re working toward embracing and enhancing a side of yourself that you may not be used to displaying except when you’re around close friends (like there’s no social judgement …
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:04 AM
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So in this method, you’re putting yourself in situations that make it easier (or take the responsibility out of your hands entirely) to get that window of opportunity to display your personality. The 2nd way is a lot easier a route, but it means you’re more limited in that your selection of girls are what the Universe throws at you. If you’re a guy who likes dolled up girls in minidresses, you’re probably not going to find those in the bookstore or be introduced to them by your nerdy Xbox buddy,…
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:04 AM
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"I know you say “introspective” but just a quick note on the closely related topic of “introverts” first: I find a lot of “introverts” are just guys hiding behind a socially acceptable label and use that label as an excuse to avoid leaving their comfort zone, usually because they’re either scared to let loose more or they simply don’t understand how to. People who meet me now assume I’m an extrovert, but I used to consider myself an introvert before I got into game. What’s closer to reality is t…
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:04 AM
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Intense eye contact. Eye fuck this chick and hold eye contact until she breaks it. Seriously, it’s the best newbie fix there is, because a lot of other good behaviors fall out of it. It’s like in golf if you tell someone to look at the ball, or have a loose grip. If they focus on only those two swing thoughts, they’ll do better than if they’re thinking about nothing, and LOADS better than if they have a ton of tips in their head. That’s why I’m not going to give you a kino escalation ladder, or …
/r/seduction26/12/19 04:44 AM
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If you want to know how to use the cube to its fullest extent, read ChitownMaverick's comments in this post: https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/6732-cube-routine-analysis-of-answers You can replace the objects with anything you want. This is useful if you don't want the chick to look up the routine online later. If anyone has a good resource for learning cold reading let me know.
/r/seduction25/12/19 08:18 AM
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Holy fuck, score!
/r/seduction24/12/19 01:08 PM
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a) Girls/women are completely aware of the PUA community, unlike how it was 11 years ago. Opening sets, approaching, that stuff just doesn't have as much traction as it used to. The women worth approaching know what's going on. Women talk. Eh, modern game techniques are basically indistinguishable from normal flirting, unless you have a REALLY trained eye. b) Online dating going mainstream has given women a million choices, especially in terms of casual relationships, that they only need to filt…
/r/seduction24/12/19 10:09 AM
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* With clean shaven coming up as a close second. Also beards appealed much more to like 20-30% of women. So, if you want to appeal to the most girls, shave and let it out for a few days.
/r/askTRP23/12/19 11:48 PM
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Yes. You are. YaReally has a good write up here: http://web.archive.org/web/20170715045401/http://yareallyarchive.com/2012/4/#comment-heartiste-334115 Congruence is (roughly) the degree to which your behaviors match the way you feel and think. You can be unconfident, depressed, neurotic, angry and still be fully congruent. The reason why I know you don't understand congruence is because your timid guy example IS acting congruent. Also, no, that isn't what Clarity of Intent is. Clarity of Intent …
/r/seduction17/12/19 10:29 AM
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Go to bars that are loud and crowded, where your blowouts are basically invisible. Don't use alcohol to numb yourself, that's pussy shit and it's not worth your loss of faculties. Good luck.
/r/seduction17/12/19 01:27 AM
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When a guy and Girl are really on synch, not only do they finish each other's sentences, it's like you're in her head and she is in yours. I want her to tell me why, and also what she fears, and what she gave up. What was her road not traveled. And you have to push back when she goes on autopilot. But if you get her to realize something about herself - something new- something she has to say out loud and take ownership in - you are golden. Awesome. It's nice to see a lot of what I do unconscious…
/r/seduction17/12/19 01:23 AM
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Game is such a cheat code it's disgusting...
/r/askTRP17/12/19 01:06 AM
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the intimidation factor means crash and burn What do you mean by this?
/r/askTRP17/12/19 12:52 AM
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But the sex starts with the first word in my experience I'm starting to feel like if there were a second rule of game, this would be it.
/r/askTRP17/12/19 12:12 AM
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Always you. Take charge of your destiny.
/r/seduction16/12/19 11:58 PM
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Whatever she says about herself, drill down Can you expand on this and contrast it with tampon-ing?
/r/seduction16/12/19 11:52 PM
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Asking questions about you is an IOI yeah.
/r/seduction16/12/19 11:40 PM
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THIRD:Give us time No, do literally the exact opposite. Read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e848pk/urgency_and_the_importance_of_fucking_a_girl_as/ FIRST: Tell us that is what you are seeking Kinda, this is a highly contextual and deep topic. It's dependent on the kind of girl, and what kind of relationship you want to build with her. SECOND: You should show her that you want to be physically close to her. Yup.
/r/seduction16/12/19 10:48 PM
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Nice. Go to high end bars and golf clubs in rich areas.
/r/seduction16/12/19 10:39 PM
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All those rationalizations for your anxiety are fake. They're unjustified. They feel real, but they aren't. Act despite them and you'll see they're just phantoms.
/r/seduction16/12/19 10:37 PM
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You use progressive desensitization to be extraordinary in how much social pressure you can take.
/r/seduction16/12/19 10:35 PM
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It's not a rejection. Typically girls will assume their friend isn't into you, even if your girl is enamored. I don't know if many girls just can't tell, or they're simply jealous that their friend is giving attention to someone else, or they think their friend will regret it. "Girlfriend/Boyfriend" is just one of the staple friend shit tests. You need to introduce yourself to the friends ASAP. Within the first 10 seconds ideally. Otherwise you're going to be fighting an uphill battle. For examp…
/r/seduction16/12/19 10:14 PM
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Yeah, this and whether or not she's chasing.
/r/seduction16/12/19 06:02 PM
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It depends on where it's coming from and what you're saying. If you're talking to impress her, then yes, talk less. If you're not talking and leaving a conversational vacuum, you want to do it while looking at her expectantly and confidently. It's a proactive silence, not a stressed one. If you're talking to amuse yourself or move things forward, go ahead.
/r/seduction16/12/19 06:01 PM
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Lol, chime in my friend.
/r/seduction16/12/19 04:45 AM
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Woooo! Though I'd try three so you have a couple to warm you up.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:58 AM
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It's another human, put yourself in his shoes, so a few days. I'd put my sights on who else I'm going after though.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:56 AM
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RSDTyler has boatloads of it.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:54 AM
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I could give you a million things to do, but I'll give you the most important tweak that may fix it. Give her intense sexual eye contact when you talk to her. Let everything else flow from there, and lead.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:50 AM
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Bold move, stupid, but bold. Fuck it dude, what's done is done, and she didn't give you radio silence so I'd see it as a green light. So ask her out.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:48 AM
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What can you do but play the waiting game? There's no point in dwelling on it.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:43 AM
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Damn dude that was harsh.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:43 AM
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I'm just testing a theory. Thanks for responding.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:42 AM
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Yes, and thank fuck. No one games so it's a cake-walk compared to how it used to be. Almost all guys on this forum don't approach. The Game and MM are old tech, but it works okay. The Hotseat at Home and The System are the two sides of modern game. The first few hundred approaches will mostly be super awkward. It gets easier from there. You have to be okay with the awkwardness, because the upside is that you have sex with gorgeous and awesome girls and have tons of fun flirting on a daily basis.…
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:21 AM
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If you want to learn pickup, Mark Manson is bullshit. It gets recommended here by guys who don't actually approach.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:17 AM
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There is no difference. None. Even if there were a difference, you have no power over it, so it's useless information.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:13 AM
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Go out. Go talk to girls. How the fuck are they going to date you if you don't give them the opportunity to meet you? The most important thing you can do to increase your success with women, is to talk to them.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:11 AM
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Models is feel-good self-help bullshit, the Game is about old technology and not even designed to teach you pickup. If you want a taste of modern game for free, check out u/PiperBigBell 's posts. If you want to learn state-based game (my favorite) I recommend RSD's Hotseat at Home (which you can only pirate these days) if you want technical game (also extremely useful) find Todd Valentine's The System. Keep in mind, it takes thousands of approaches to git gud usually. So decide first if you want…
/r/seduction15/12/19 11:59 PM
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Okay, those videos are fascinating. As someone who’s gone out a lot, I can break them down a bit. Wow mystery was awkward as fuck. Modern game looks closer to what Todd is doing, but Todd is making a lot of mistakes in that video. Mystery was the best of a fledgling community, so he was terrible. What you should notice though, is that even if he was awkward, the one girl was still compliant. She sat next to him without any hesitance whatsoever when he told her to. She probably would have slept w…
/r/seduction15/12/19 10:49 PM
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No 22 is not too late, and 30 approaches is a super low approach count for 3.5 months. But that doesn’t mean the bulk of them should be on campus. When you get better, the number of girls who like you increases dramatically. It’s a slog at first though. If cold approach isn’t your thing, try finding like-minded friends and go to parties. I mean you should be doing this anyway, but it should be a major priority.
/r/seduction15/12/19 02:18 AM
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You can get insanely complicated or simple with the answer. Here's the most bang for your buck: start approaching girls in the club. Actually go and talk to them. If you don't want to dance with them, lead them off the dance floor. Or go approach them in other parts of the club. You need to get used to being the person who sets the rhythm of social interaction. You'll get a lot of rejections at your current level. Be happy you did it, and keep going.
/r/seduction15/12/19 02:14 AM
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You have plenty of opportunity to get her to invest in person. Adding in the randomness of her remembering to text you for a single piece of investment is the low percentage move. > man signals to woman that he is interested by approaching, man signals interest to woman by asking her number, woman signals interest to man again by texting her. The problem with that model is that it assumes former two are of equal weight for solidifying the interaction to the later. You have immensely more control…
/r/seduction13/12/19 02:03 PM
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I'm glad that worked out for you. IME I've lost a few girls who were super into me when I gave them my number. In most cases, it's the low-percentage move, and as a guy it's better to stay on the leading side of the interaction. I don't want her contacting me on her terms, I want to be setting the rhythm. Whether or not she's excited to give me her number is also a screening tactic, if she's hesitant I know she's not into me enough for it to be worth my time. There was one exception to that rule…
/r/seduction13/12/19 01:41 PM
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I approached a girl on the street once. She was on the edge of a crowd waiting for street meat."You are absolutely stunning, I'm Hubble". After a few seconds of running my mouth I hear a large cheer. The crowd was her entire extended family. Funny interaction, she was leaving in the morning and wasn't feeling it though.
/r/seduction12/12/19 10:17 AM
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All of that feels a little off the mark. I mean, as a general conversationalist it's great advice (and I like B), but everything Piper is talking about here is very value-heavy. Almost cartoonishly so. My best guess is that allowing her to interview you is a subtle form of qualifying yourself. If you're trying to maintain the frame of "I'm evaluating you"/buyer-seller, then spending time talking about yourself(DHVing w/e) is in conflict with that frame. You could be spending that same time enjoy…
/r/seduction12/12/19 09:28 AM
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If you figure this out, let me know. It's one of my biggest theory questions at this point.
/r/seduction12/12/19 08:45 AM
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Do it pussy.
/r/seduction12/12/19 08:26 AM
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Nani??
/r/seduction12/12/19 08:21 AM
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I mean, are you in your twenties and extremely hot? Because that's the point of this kind of advice. It isn't aimed at girls of average looks or who are a little older and looking for stability. It actively repels those women.
/r/seduction12/12/19 08:17 AM
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The behavior he's talking about is meant for girls who are the most sought after. Manipulation has nothing to do with it, his cards are on the table. Most likely you would be intimidated if you met him though.
/r/seduction12/12/19 08:00 AM
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What he said. Also approach. A lot.
/r/seduction12/12/19 07:45 AM
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So my guess is that Piper isn't going after girls who aren't top tier. 'player vibe' is an archetype that's reflected in all high status males to some degree. Piper is trying to distill it so players can emulate/embody it in its purest form. A girl who's well sought after doesn't fuck with dudes who aren't reflecting a 'player vibe' to some degree, but she also wants to feel like the guy is attainable. Girls who aren't as sought after will immediately be too intimidated by you though.
/r/seduction12/12/19 07:40 AM
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Sweet FR my dude. Yeah I prefer solo nightgame for some of the reasons you state here.
/r/seduction12/12/19 07:25 AM
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Solid as ever. Never let her interview you or drain you of information Mind expanding on this a little?
/r/seduction12/12/19 06:30 AM
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too many variables, no clue dude.
/r/seduction12/12/19 05:20 AM
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You're confusing congruence, confidence, and clarity of intent in a hodgepodge of each. They're distinct concepts with very specific outcomes and causes. I have a post in the works that will give more clarity. Big blowouts ARE caused by a specific kind of incongruence, but not how you describe it here.
/r/seduction12/12/19 05:17 AM
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If that's the way you're thinking about lines, then yeah of course it's not going to work. They aren't magic, they're signposts to frames. If you say the line while nervous and feeling a need for a reaction, it's going to backfire because it's obvious you're putting on a front or it's creepy because it doesn't match the rest of your personality. If you feel like she should be chasing you, and you're confident, then it's powerful. Lines are force-multipliers of the fundamentals.
/r/seduction12/12/19 12:49 AM
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Indirect opinion opener. You can also go direct and ask if mom/grandma and your girl are sisters.
/r/seduction11/12/19 07:31 PM
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Todd V approach anxiety vid in the tubes of the you. Write out the reasons why you didn't approach and analyze whether they're legitimate. Virtually every single time they aren't, there's no downside to approaching, it just feels like it because of evolutionary baggage.
/r/seduction11/12/19 05:49 PM
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Focus on laser eye contact, the rest of that stuff will typically fall out naturally as a result. Kinoing is a learned skill though, you just gotta make yourself do it.
/r/seduction11/12/19 05:46 PM
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Personality test are BS, look at the research.
/r/seduction11/12/19 05:45 PM
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There's a paradox here. Some girls would have been interested, had your initial approach not sucked. Like I could make an FR where I purposefully spent a night going in incongruent, then turn a few girls around by turning on the charm. So does that mean my game made a girl attracted, or does it mean if I was putting on a front or feeling insecure I would lose a girl who was receptive? That's a matter of perspective. I would argue that since as a newbie I couldn't maintain all the attractive beha…
/r/seduction11/12/19 05:34 PM
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You can address the group then say something that shows you're interested in the girl. Or you can go straight for the girl, then immediately introduce yourself to the group. Isolate the girl as soon as you can, perhaps ask permission from the group, but your number 1 priority with groups is to make sure they approve of you. Do not ignore them, or they will ruin you. If they're walking, they have more inertia than a single girl walking. So planting your feet and assuming they'll stop won't work a…
/r/seduction11/12/19 05:19 AM
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Send your dude friend over to talk to your crush's group, then wave you over to meet the group after 20 seconds or so. Not for the express purpose of you two meeting, just socializing. Find a couple opinion openers for him if he's at a loss for what to say. Make sure the fact that you're just platonic quickly and casually comes up. BAM you're in. Like everyone else is saying, it's almost unheard of for dudes to open guy-girl pairs. Unless you're like many of us here: you have brass balls. For th…
/r/seduction11/12/19 04:45 AM
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Eh no need to get rich, IME college house parties are easy mode. If they're geeky there's no need to inflate their standards if their hearts aren't in it.
/r/seduction11/12/19 12:56 AM
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Go to nightclubs. Be louder. Dance. That's solid. I got off the train after that, not that the following wouldn't help. Just not my bag. The too loud for talking thing, you need to learn to project your voice. Take a voice lesson or RSD's Resonator program. USE EARPLUGS if you're going to be in this for awhile Honestly, it sounds like y'all would be better off just lowering your standards and meeting girls at house parties. The alternative is a long, fascinating, and fun road.
/r/seduction11/12/19 12:28 AM
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Every single encounter and every single approach should be analyzed in order to come up with a hypothesis to grow. Absolutely. It’s so fucking hilariously hard, but I fucking love game. I’m so fascinated by game. Yeah I'm there too. Most of my peak life experiences are the direct result of game. Say what you will about that, it's been a fucking blast.
/r/seduction10/12/19 11:40 PM
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I mean that I've done at least 3k. People git gud at different speeds.
/r/seduction10/12/19 06:30 PM
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At least 3k. 1k a year isn't that much if it's one of your hobbies, that's an average of 3 per day.
/r/seduction10/12/19 06:04 PM
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It has nothing to do with gatekeeping and everything to do with practicality. If you decided to pick up tennis, would you expect to be competent after reading theory behind the strokes and practicing a few backhands? No. Why would social influence, a skill of much greater complexity, be any different? Can you get laid with ten approaches? Totally, but it's dependent on natural charisma, money, status, looks, the attractiveness of the girl, dumb luck etc. Having your game improve appreciably over…
/r/seduction10/12/19 05:41 PM
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Usually it takes thousands of approaches to get good yeah. If you're a really good looking dude or naturally charismatic then you don't need to develop your game much. It's less about getting exposure to lots of girls than it is about practice. There is a lot of nuance to game, some of the skills can only be gained through exposure, and since the necessary reaction time is so short, you need to work on one skill at a time. So if you want to learn game, it takes around 3+ approaches per day and a…
/r/seduction10/12/19 05:08 PM
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I want to approach in a way that I'm proud of. I'm already average looking as it is and can't see myself getting away with sexualizing a convo as someone inexperienced. I don't want to have to hide the fact that I approach from others, because wouldn't this mean that I'm ashamed of who I am? But I don't know how to do that. Any experimenting and testing will come off as not just creepy, but borderline REALLY testing the waters. You're going to have to get over this if you want to get good. Awkwa…
/r/seduction10/12/19 04:24 PM
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When I hear date I think boyfriend mode. If the girl doesn't know I want to fuck her before I invite her out I've made a serious error. I don't use either word. Try to pull on the date after 30 minutes.
/r/seduction10/12/19 04:13 PM
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Nope, if I'm not out approaching regularly then I get nowhere.
/r/seduction10/12/19 04:07 PM
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I like natural(state-based) game. It's the way I learned, but I also want to incorporate more structure in order to emphasize getting the girl to chase and gain more consistency. It kinda sucks relying on your emotional state to game well. I think you could start with either. When I do try canned stuff, my delivery isn't congruent most of the time, but when it is I'm amazed at how effective a well placed push-pull is. One of my biggest sticking points is making the girl invest and qualifying her…
/r/seduction10/12/19 04:06 PM
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Cold approach is a skill in its own right. It takes years to get good, might as well be putting the work in while getting the rest of your life together.
/r/seduction10/12/19 07:48 AM
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It's just pitch. Neutral is consistent pitch, breaking is changing your pitch lower at the end of the sentence. It's actually easier to do if you imagine talking with authority combined with happiness.
/r/seduction10/12/19 07:47 AM
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He was also teaching you how to run your mouthpiece. Good stuff.
/r/seduction10/12/19 07:44 AM
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Yup this guy knows what's up.
/r/seduction09/12/19 11:41 PM
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How many women have you tried your theories on my dude? These are patterns I've seen over thousands of girls, and have been echoed by hundreds of other intermediate cold approachers. Actually yeah you do gain confidence from cold approaches, good or bad, or more specifically you gain immunity to social pressure(a.k.a ice). Being icy is intense, it makes social influence easy but at the cost of somatic empathy. Look at studies of narcissists, you gain those same abilities for persuasion. If you'r…
/r/seduction09/12/19 11:14 PM
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Yo, nights like this just happen sometimes, usually when you're rusty and haven't approached in the past few days. IME it's because I'm not feeling 'grounded' enough. Approaching with less time in between sets, laughing at the bad ones, and using laser eye contact with an authoritative tone tends to turn this around for me.
/r/seduction09/12/19 05:53 PM
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Nah. What actually happens is this : 1) You do a weak approach, say you don't feel confident or you don't commit to the approach. If she's extremely hot, she'll usually look at you unamused or give you a back turn. If you're able to turn an unamused look around by running your mouth and putting yourself into a groove, great, but backturns are basically impossible because if you don't have her attention you aren't gaming. 2) You feel solid and fully commit to the approach. Typically hot girls wil…
/r/seduction09/12/19 02:04 PM
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Nope, the opposite, I make them chase my attention.
/r/seduction09/12/19 01:52 PM
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girls that think less of themselves become harder to pull. Bingo. I expect worse reactions from average girls than stunners these days. The key to not being intimidated by the hottest girls is to not think ahead and approach a lot. You can't be intimidated if social pressure doesn't touch you, and you aren't thinking enough to psyche yourself out.
/r/seduction09/12/19 06:25 AM
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I like thoughts like this that emphasize that the game is about you, and never the girl.
/r/seduction08/12/19 07:22 PM
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We've got something for everyone --PT Barnum
/r/seduction08/12/19 07:12 PM
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Okay maybe 5 even for the hottest girls, but that's pushing it. I could be wrong, but I've seen some shit. Game, at least state-game, can get some extreme reactions from girls. I didn't really understand how I was making girls feel until I met a couple recently who did it to me. I intensely felt their warmth and security. Honestly you shouldn't take my word for it, it's too out of the ordinary.
/r/seduction08/12/19 07:05 PM
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If your game is shit: 9 If your game is tight: 3
/r/seduction08/12/19 11:12 AM
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Ding ding. Field is king.
/r/seduction08/12/19 11:11 AM
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It actually contributed to losing my girlfriend because she preferred my softer body. I think it was because I resembled her father figure more when I was chubby. This is a girl who was drop-dead gorgeous too, easy 9. My game took a backslide at the time too. I'm skinny now, and I pulled a girl last week, she said she was partially into me because I was skinny and was mocking muscular dudes. I wonder how much of it was her responding to my game and backwards rationalizing, because girls frequent…
/r/seduction08/12/19 11:06 AM
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With AMOGs, the key is where the attention is. Whoever is getting attention is the higher value person. Don't give them your attention any more than is necessary to not be an asshole. At the same time, put your attention on the people in the group who are accepting of your frames, and the girl, as much as possible. You want your frames for the interaction to be paid attention to and believed. The more you are doing, the less that is being done to you.
/r/seduction07/12/19 10:31 PM
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Over text, you want to misinterpret shit tests. e.g. "Oh, so you're a voyeur. It's okay, I don't think you're a pervert if my attention turns you on."
/r/seduction07/12/19 10:15 PM
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I've just seen this pattern many times, and each time I took a mental note of it, but couldn't fully explain it. I tried to say "it's to make her more attractive by making him jealous" but that doesn't quite make sense. A girl having a boyfriend is disqualifying in a way that a guy having a girlfriend isn't, because a K-selector sharing her sexuality is different than an R-selector sharing his.
/r/askTRP06/12/19 09:34 PM
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women see value in a man who can attract many women. women make the mistake of believing they can demonstrate value to a man in the same way and so they flaunt the fact that they've met someone else. Oh.
/r/askTRP06/12/19 02:02 AM
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Have you tried? Like honestly felt confident doing it and executed on the theory? I have. I've done it when I was chubby and dressed like crap, and I've done it when I was dressed like a boss and in shape. You know how differently girls treated me? They didn't. Maybe I'd get a few more approach invitations, but when I actually rolled up, confidence blows all that away. My game was actually slightly better when I was dressed like a scrub, and I pulled more often as a result. Give it a shot, it's …
/r/seduction05/12/19 09:56 PM
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Well, if you actually want it, the way to get it is to lose that self-consciousness about your age. 90%+ of the time it'll be your discomfort that they're responding to, not your age.
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:26 AM
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It feels completely irrelevant. I skew 6 years younger.
/r/seduction04/12/19 11:54 PM
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Are you self-conscious about it?
/r/seduction04/12/19 11:52 PM
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lol, those aren't even that impressive. Most guys could do both with just a little practice.
/r/seduction04/12/19 04:49 AM
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Done it a lot. It's fine. You talk to everybody, guys and girls. If people are having fun, then you're golden. Don't go super hard on every girl, that's a bit weird. Sometimes you'll rub people the wrong way. That's life. Others will love you though, and will discount the conceptions of others for their opinion of you.
/r/seduction02/12/19 11:07 PM
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Their free tours and videos are mostly marketing. Owen Cook even says this in the Hotseat at Home. I honestly do recommend their products, they work. Don't buy them at first, instead download the Hotseat at Home from somewhere and try going out with the exercises. You'll be blown away by your results. I don't like how RSD does its marketing, the information is deliberately difficult to take action on, but their programs are fire. Also, Jeffy and Owen are their only two instructors I like to thes…
/r/seduction01/12/19 08:41 PM
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Do it anyway!!! That's the entire point of game, it's a force multiplier for attraction. You open all, and you minimize time between interactions. Do this: go up to girls who are not looking at you in the bar/concert. Skinny fat old ugly beautiful young it doesn't matter. Do 6 in a row, with no hesitation between one girl and the next, and making SURE you don't judge yourself for the last approach. Find something funny about it and be stoked that you had the balls to do it. It doesn't matter if …
/r/seduction01/12/19 08:31 PM
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Somatically? A warm stone in the middle of your chest, with warmth softly flowing to your arms. Practically? When someone gives you negative social feedback in any way, you feel nothing. Cold as ice. That doesn't mean you're obliged to be rude though. The way I do it is to get a large number of rejections or positive responses in a short period of time. Like 20+ in a night, or 200+ a month.
/r/seduction30/11/19 10:23 AM
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It's hard, because you want to give her as much space to say no without feeling like she'll feel repercussions at her job. As a result, you need a well tuned ability to tell when she's attracted. I've never done it and hooked up. I tried two nights ago by inviting her to meet me at a bar if she feels like it when she got off. Her pupils were huge and she was complimenting me a lot, and she said she'd go, but she didn't show. I hope someone can jump into the thread who's got experience pulling th…
/r/seduction30/11/19 01:27 AM
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Awesome! The trick to approaching a girl when you tap her is to do it from arms length, then close distance smoothly to the point she's comfortable.
/r/seduction30/11/19 01:20 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e38scy/girl_said_i_was_approaching_the_right_way/f925htv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/seduction30/11/19 12:41 AM
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Meh, we have police and door locks for a reason. Go for it. Also learn how to use intense eye contact to scare guys.
/r/seduction30/11/19 12:40 AM
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My backing for this is that I am a woman with female friends. Being interrupted because a stranger has a pick up line and wants my phone number is 9/10 times, not well received. 9/10 guys who approach are creepy and uncharismatic. If Jared Leto or Decaprio approached you at the groceries store would you be annoyed? No. The same is true of a guy who is your type. What's interesting, is the easiest way to become charismatic is to go through a large number of rejections, while having the theory to …
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:36 PM
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Talk to all of them, make friends. Feel as if they're already your friends, then have a pleasant chat getting to know them. Don't be trying to hide the fact that you're interested in her though.
/r/seduction29/11/19 10:34 PM
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Absolutely, being confident in herself and have a good time and meeting guys through her genuine self. Dead on. Doing all of that shit you said just creates a fake persona that can’t hold a long relationship. Nah, much of it lasts a long time if you take care of yourself. Also, you're being deliberately obtuse if you say it doesn't matter for attracting a guy. She should do both. But she's articulate, and she didn't mention social anxiety, so I bet she has her life together. Though she should be…
/r/seduction29/11/19 10:27 PM
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Cool, got a better idea? She's in her prime and having trouble getting dates with the guys she wants. Either she needs to reorient herself to other dudes or step up her looks. In any case she should be hanging around people with like-interests. That's her best bet.
/r/seduction29/11/19 09:15 PM
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But if he hits it off with that girl, the enjoyment they both gain is worth more than the <1 minute discomfort of the other girls. If he continues at it, almost all of the girls will enjoy his approach as well, even if they aren't down. 14/15 girls have fun when I approach them today. 3/10 girls had fun when I approached them when I started. That's just the progression. Are there better venues? Yes, but it's still workable.
/r/seduction29/11/19 08:57 AM
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Awesome
/r/seduction29/11/19 08:53 AM
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What to say: Stare at a girl in the eyes with laser eye contact. Feel like you're in her head when you talk to her. Divorce the emotions from the content of your speech. Say anything you want, but say it with an authoritative, or a excited, or amused, or sexual tone. As an exercise try describing your apartment like it's the most exciting thing in the world, or like you're the president making a landmark speech. Don't think ahead. Try this exercise: sitting by yourself, staying present, and say …
/r/seduction29/11/19 07:45 AM
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Wait outside and talk to her as she leaves. Say whatever is on your mind. Literally whatever it is, do not filter yourself, even if it seems lame. Don't think ahead. If you want a better idea of what to do, watch the "Hotseat at Home" .
/r/seduction29/11/19 07:21 AM
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Hit the gym and do some squats, learn and practice good nutrition, dress well, and get really good at makeup, don't drink or smoke. Now hang around the kinds of guys you're interested in, say in extracurricular clubs or hobbies. Girl game is 80% looks. Yeah it sucks.
/r/seduction29/11/19 07:15 AM
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Nah, there's just a steep-ass learning curve.
/r/seduction29/11/19 07:01 AM
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How many girls have you approached?
/r/seduction29/11/19 07:00 AM
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Eh, I don't buy it. I am pretty but skinnyfat(can't BP the bar for 12), and I've been in a place where every girl would be creeped out by me, to now where most of the hottest girls I meet look like it's Christmas goddamn morning, like jlaw or Emma Watson level hot. It's mostly about how you feel and rock up. It took me over 3k approaches to make that progress. When you see just how profoundly different the reactions you get based on your emotional state are, it changes your perspective. But it's…
/r/seduction29/11/19 06:57 AM
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Don't do this. Every dude I see recommend this nonsense doesn't approach.
/r/seduction29/11/19 06:40 AM
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Currently doing it after being out of the game for 7 years. https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/comment/f7gm83b My game is getting tighter than it's ever been. I recommend finding a download for Hotseat at Home and approaching a few girls per day.
/r/seduction29/11/19 06:39 AM
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Bingo
/r/seduction29/11/19 06:30 AM
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How about "You look familiar, I think I know you from somewhere" I got laid with that one last night. Or "I love you" or "I like nachos" or "Absolutely. Gorgeous. " all have got me laid. Openers are dumb, it's about the follow through.
/r/seduction29/11/19 06:29 AM
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Rule #1 of pickup is whatever you feel she feels. I didn't see OP mess that up.
/r/seduction29/11/19 06:25 AM
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It's closer to 350/lay of a hot girl at first, even if you really suck. Ir gets better over time.
/r/seduction29/11/19 06:20 AM
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They're making sure nothing is going to fall out of place when they start running away from you. It's an irrelevant detail, open and you'll know very quickly if she likes you enough to let you spit game. That's all that matters in the end.
/r/seduction28/11/19 10:12 PM
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I'd talk to you quickly if you gave me sustained eye contact.
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:39 PM
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... Do it pussy.
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:36 PM
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What kind of reactions are you getting from girls? How often do you approach?
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:32 PM
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You did it pussy. Now do it again. (well done my dude)
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:26 PM
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So like I'll reverse engineer what I did last night. I started with a handshake, which turned into a longer hand hold because we didn't let go of each others' hands. A couple times the girl and I were pressed right up against each other with our handshake-clasped hands against our bodies immediately off the open. My opens are on the surface totally nonsexual "HI I'm Hubble" or "Do I know you from somewhere?" etc. But girls are immediately putting themselves in my personal space because it's obvi…
/r/seduction28/11/19 04:04 PM
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​ https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/need_some_tips_on_dealing_with_shit_tests/f7gm83b?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x I actually need to update that to make it more about the process, but it should get you the main idea.
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:32 AM
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Do it pussy.
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:49 AM
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What I'm saying is that he wasn't delusional at all. He understood/intuited something about the interaction that you didn't. Him saying that outrageous sexual stuff was solid game.
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:45 AM
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No, what I'm saying is that the woman's emotional intensity, in the context of dating, IS more important than the logical content. It's objectively more important. The worst reaction you can get from a girl is indifference. Strong negative or positive means that you are important and compelling. He probably doesn't explicitly understand it, but what he is doing is giving her strong emotions, which makes her compliant and attracted. Game is animal. It's in the limbic system, and language sits pri…
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:14 AM
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The way to turn approaches non-platonic is to use laser eye contact. Then lead her around and escalate physically. Start with the hands, then hugs, spin hug, neck bite, kiss etc. Use a sexual tone in your voice. If you want to use sexual verbals then go for it, whatever entertains you. But eye contact, physicality, and vocal tone are the core. I think it should be pretty obvious that you're interested in her in the first 5 seconds. Not necessarily that you're down, like you're still the buyer an…
/r/seduction28/11/19 04:04 AM
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Lol yup
/r/seduction27/11/19 10:43 PM
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Eh, I'm better than the next guy she'll find. But in most cases it's good advice.
/r/seduction27/11/19 10:27 PM
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Thanks for this. The answer is actually way simpler. Look up Operant Conditioning and Reinforcement Schedules. The girl was giving random rewards of high biological relevance at random intervals, which is the most compelling stimulus for mammals possible.
/r/seduction27/11/19 10:23 PM
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If I'm not in her head enough to lose her inhibition(and thus her rules), then yeah. She might make it as an fwb, but not a girlfriend. I'd feel an emotional tug, but I understand enough to know it's a trap.
/r/seduction27/11/19 09:20 PM
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Eh, every time I've stuck it out with a girl who was lukewarm I've regretted it. The girl was either disrespectful or the sex was inhibited. I'd confuse the deliberately hot/cold with just wanting attention. Like I'd feel an emotional tug, but I'd also recognize logically that it wasn't worth the time and I'd next.
/r/seduction27/11/19 09:08 PM
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The main reason why that worked was because he got a strong emotional reaction. That's how he knew. He's got better beliefs, but he's also looking for different queues. He's looking at the emotions, not the logical content.
/r/seduction27/11/19 09:03 PM
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Dude. Burn unit. Best comment in the post.
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:56 PM
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They're all saying they're unwilling to wait and that's because they all want to get their dick wet as soon as possible. Half true. Even if I was looking to make the girl my girlfriend, if she wasn't dtf by the 2nd, maybe 3rd date I'd assume she wasn't attracted to me enough, and I wasn't in her head enough. oh and every guy in this thread is the kind of guy you probably don't want. True.
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:50 PM
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Right, but most of us men are thirsty as fuck. That's why this works.
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:41 PM
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I'd drop a girl like this pretty fast. I've wasted enough time on girls who weren't enamored with me. A younger and dumber me would have kept at it for the thirst, but the juice was never worth the squeeze. By contrast, girls that can barely help themselves are awesome.
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:36 PM
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I didn't want to say it...
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:30 PM
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Honestly it sounds like cold approach isn't a good fit for the environment you are in. You need busy public places like bars, parks, and stores to be able to cold approach. Populated bars, clubs, and concerts are necessary to get in the required volume to learn at all. So my best answer, is if you want to learn this, you gotta leave your environment. If it's not that worth it to you, then get some mentors in the society you live in, and expand your social circle.
/r/seduction25/11/19 10:10 PM
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You say whatever is on your mind. If it's "I don't know what to say" that's what you say. Remove the filter, don't think ahead. I like to start with "Good Morning" at odd hours of the day, or just a normal introduction.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:09 AM
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Don't forget to post to r/100sets I'm currently at 29 after 6 days. Let's see if you can beat me.
/r/seduction25/11/19 01:39 AM
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Nope.
/r/seduction24/11/19 09:57 AM
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This might be an issue best tackled by a therapist.
/r/seduction24/11/19 09:56 AM
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This is great dude! Someone who actually approaches, awesome. Lead these girls off the dance floor and have a conversation and you're golden.
/r/seduction24/11/19 09:55 AM
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I mean, yeah, but they also have insight into the female psyche that we as men will never have. So getting their opinion can be key. They also have massive blind spots though. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater basically.
/r/seduction24/11/19 09:29 AM
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It really just depends if you can pull it off. When I go out alone I make peoples' nights better so it's chill. I make them laugh, tell good stories, mellow the vibe out. I don't like lying so I'm straight with the fact that I came out alone, and typically girls are impressed. Most of my friends are intellectual types who would rather party in different environments. With drinking it's the same thing. Just don't make it weird. Also the more empathetic you are, the easier it is to get contact hig…
/r/seduction24/11/19 04:37 AM
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One to two hours before: "I'm running 15 minutes late"
/r/seduction24/11/19 03:00 AM
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Gaming sober is a skill. Memory is state dependent, so all the skills that you gained while drunk will be a bit harder to access when you're sober and vice versa. If you want to learn to game sober, I totally recommend it. You don't get drained by the end of the night, you don't have to go to the restroom so often, your decision making is so much better, you'll age much slower, no hangover, you have impulse control when you need it so you don't say stupid shit you can't recover from. I never dri…
/r/seduction24/11/19 02:53 AM
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Except if she's a lesbian. Some lesbians have MAD game.
/r/seduction24/11/19 02:34 AM
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Most of the time I go out alone. Usually girls don't ask, either because they're focused on trying to impress me, or they get it: "This guy is on the prowl, he's a player." The few times girls do ask, I tell them "It's just me tonight", their response is usually "Oh that's so cool!" I don't have it happen these days, but back when my approach was weaker I'd get sour faces or "that's weird/creepy." Girls' responses to you are completely dependent on how they feel about you, and how well you maint…
/r/seduction24/11/19 02:25 AM
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I can only remember a few bad ones out of thousands. I think the first memory of a seriously bad reaction was a couple hundred approaches in. I went up to this really hot girl and her friend, barely get a word out, and she goes "I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU!" in a full throated yell. I looked at her like she was an idiot, laughed, walked to the other side of the room and opened the next girl. There were a bunch early on where I was super shy or half-stepping, and girls would look at me like I was…
/r/seduction23/11/19 01:59 AM
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It starts to get weird when you're in your early 50's. Even then...
/r/seduction22/11/19 10:28 PM
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In the span of a minute it was like witnessing the birth of the human race from water and the millions of years it took to evolve to now, through head form. Now that's a sentence.
/r/seduction22/11/19 10:17 PM
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First rule of pickup: Whatever you feel she feels. Don't feel like you're intimidating, and you won't be intimidating.
/r/seduction20/11/19 05:49 PM
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Approach 30+ girls a week. That is all you have to do.
/r/seduction20/11/19 05:46 PM
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In game, there's this feeling called State, Sweet Spot, Zone, or Nimbus. If you flirt with enough girls in quick succession, and you've been going out a lot, you start feeling it. It's this combination of euphoria and insane confidence. When you look at girls they become attracted from like 30ft almost immediately, you feel no social pressure, and your ability to influence others gets intense. The only major downside, is that it's extremely difficult to remember what happened after you come out …
/r/seduction20/11/19 05:23 PM
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I mean, she was my girlfriend, yeah.
/r/seduction20/11/19 05:13 PM
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She said "I'm not done with you yet." as if she was in control of the situation and I responded "I know, I saw how disappointed you looked when I stopped paying attention to you." She almost started to argue, then realized I was right and I knew it.
/r/seduction20/11/19 06:23 AM
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I believe it. Girls flock to guys who are just in their own world and having fun. That's 90% of my game, talk and move in a way that's entertaining to myself, her enjoyment is incidental because she feels it off of me. That's a fun experiment, thanks for the writeup!
/r/seduction20/11/19 05:34 AM
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Get one of those self-inflatable camping mats and the world becomes your fucking oyster.
/r/seduction19/11/19 11:47 PM
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Woe is me. ;)
/r/seduction19/11/19 11:46 PM
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get approached by girls How? I doubt I'd use it because I have too much fun bouncing around the room, but I'm curious because the only way I've seen this happen is by sending drinks across the bar. And I prefer girls trying to buy me drinks.
/r/seduction19/11/19 11:44 PM
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I talk about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/dur460/looks_do_matter_stop_lying_to_yourself/f783o6k?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x You just have to up your game.
/r/seduction19/11/19 12:54 PM
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Go out on the weekend. If you can, go out for a quick 30 minutes after work. For the AA: https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/comment/f7gm83b ​ Do this and you can get an easy 30 approaches in per week.
/r/seduction19/11/19 12:39 PM
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My last three openers: "Good morning"(it was 3pm), "I'm Hubble" then immediate pointless rant about my apartment, "I'm Hubble" then rant about a festival. Openers are useless.
/r/seduction19/11/19 04:12 AM
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It sounds like you're creeping girls out. That's fixable. Are you doing basic grooming? Hygiene + wearing decent clothes? You don't even have to dress fancy, just be clean at least. Skip the touching for awhile. Work on just having a normal pleasant conversation with people. Then with girls. Then work on your attraction phase until girls will sometimes touch you, then learn when you can touch them. You never want to get to the point where a girl freaks out.
/r/seduction19/11/19 04:02 AM
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That makes sense. I asked the great Oracle(google) and it came up with a quora answer that posited that attractive girls are used to being showered with affection and average girls aren't so much. So when you and I rock up, and we're not attached to the outcome, hot girls will find it different and chase, and average girls will feel unappreciated.
/r/seduction19/11/19 02:15 AM
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Got any idea why it happens? I can't tell if it's because I come off as too alternative or too cool for them or what.
/r/seduction18/11/19 11:24 PM
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That's a cool position to be in. I've lost count of the times that a girl has been dragged away while she kept staring back at me wistfully and smiling. Or where I saw her later staring at me across the room. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that average girls don't like me but hot ones do, so the friends make a snap judgement. Also, I used to have terrible situational awareness so I'd get blindsided by the friends and not quickly introduce myself. The fear of being seen as slutty is r…
/r/seduction18/11/19 11:16 PM
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Weird, I can't find the article that said he was harassing and stalking one of the girls. It could be a false memory. He didn't deserve to be jailed if that's the case. If what the girls are saying is true he was making a series of really stupid errors and terrible at reading comfort, which is like half of pickup. He's also brown, so that couldn't have helped his case unfortunately.
/r/MGTOW18/11/19 10:23 PM
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Closest I've gotten is opening with "I love you." completely seriously. I slept with one girl(8) 10 minutes later. I also did this to one of the hottest girls I've ever seen and she was enamored, I tried pulling her home but the orbiter she was with started getting violent with me so I bounced. I hadn't learned how to make dudes back down with eye contact yet. Both times I was in the zone.
/r/seduction18/11/19 09:29 PM
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If enterprise software really worked, why don't people release it for FREE?!
/r/MGTOW18/11/19 06:02 PM
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No, he stalked her. That's an example of a scumbag who gives PUA's a bad name.
/r/MGTOW18/11/19 06:00 PM
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People keep telling you the gym is a stupid date idea. It is, but here are the smart ones: coffee/tea or a drinks at a bar. Two drink max. ​ Well done on the approach man.
/r/seduction18/11/19 05:21 PM
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Ace.
/r/seduction18/11/19 05:18 PM
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Not joking, everyone's different, and some people get depressed by lack of sun.
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:25 PM
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Interesting, I think I do this just by looking uninvested enough. It feels like I could roll off and find another girl at any moment. I only ever use pushes to spike. Thanks, I need this in my toolbox because pullaways are cancer.
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:22 PM
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I have the opposite problem, 6/7's blow me out quickly. I think you just have to come across as more confident(sorry for the cliche), so laugh at enough blowouts until you form the ice, and rock up to stunners without hesitation.
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:12 PM
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Sick. Why do shotgun negs disarm obstacles? They want to be revalidated more than they want their friends' approval?
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:07 PM
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Dude 80% you have seasonal affective disorder. Go talk to a psych about this and get yourself some light therapy.
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:02 PM
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You have one and only one problem: you need to be approaching closer to 70 girls a week. No I am not exaggerating in the least. 30 bare minimum.
/r/seduction18/11/19 01:33 PM
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This is gonna sound woo, but it isn't, just give it a shot. Don't think ahead in set, stay present to the moment and let whatever comes to mind flow out your mouth. Try to imagine/feel that you are one with everyone in the bar and you're all there to help each other have a good time. When you get blown out "who the fuck would have the balls to do that approach?" "the approach was 1000/10", find something funny about it. Then immediately hit up the next girl. You gotta take your ego out of it and…
/r/seduction18/11/19 01:27 PM
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Ideally you want to escalate when she's feeling an intense emotion(i.e. spike)(e.g. laughing), and while you're talking. You could just repeat phrases like "2 seconds","it's just a dream","no one is looking","adventure!" over and over, or you can just run your mouth. The idea is to make sure she isn't thinking too hard about it and going with how it feels. Feeling mindful or present to the moment makes it easier to feel certain when you make a move.
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:14 AM
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If she really wants to go to your place, I can assure you that no friends will stop her. Nope, most of my pull aways were because the friends saw me escalate too quickly and assumed she was uncomfortable without looking at her body language, or wanted to protect her from being slutty, or the ugly one was jealous of the attention. Most girls won't stand up to their friends in this case for fear of looking slutty. As a rule, don't escalate or try to pull in front of the friends.
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:04 AM
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You need to react quickly when the friend comes, and introduce yourself. You should be asking "who are you here with" quickly because it gives you tons of important information, also so you can say hi to the friends if they're standing nearby. I've had people recommend saying "are you going to let your friends push you around like that" if they still try to pull away, but an introduction is working fine for me. Are you trying to pull her on an emotional spike? Are you staying present and feeling…
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:01 AM
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Holy shit dude I'm sorry it hit you so hard. The key to fixing this is not to judge yourself poorly for an approach, no matter how awkward. Here is my primer on AA: https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/need_some_tips_on_dealing_with_shit_tests/f7gm83b?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x Obviously, always honor consent, but some of your approaches are going to be awkward, and it doesn't have to make you feel badly about yourself.
/r/seduction18/11/19 01:49 AM
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I like your advice here. The rest of this is stylistic: I like louder bars, because they're more forgiving of blowouts, I know how to project, and what the girl is saying isn't of much importance until they're ready to be moved to a quieter part of the bar. I also have high quality earplugs so I can hear speech better than without them. I don't really care if I get approach invitations or not, I just fly by the seat of my pants and improvise. The unpredictability is entertaining to me. My opener…
/r/seduction17/11/19 11:34 PM
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This is kinda advanced. I know I would be hard pressed to pull this off without a warmup, scanning tends to bite me in the ass because I make excuses, and it'll take at least 3 approaches before I find a honey who is both down and cute enough. Most of the dudes on here can barely make an approach, so buyer beware this is a bad habit because it avoids a warmup and discourages approaching all.
/r/seduction17/11/19 10:20 PM
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Tyler is doing some pretty intense inner game stuff to get them cool with it. He's strongly influencing their emotions with his emotional state. After practicing some of his techniques I can say pretty confidently that they're having fun. You'll see they'll be interested in continuing the interaction. If they're not interested he gives infield examples of how he backs off the instant they're uncomfortable. He looks for sudden pupil constriction and tense body or tone of voice. When he backs off …
/r/seduction17/11/19 09:58 PM
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Lol I did this mid conversation switch last night. I was talking to one girl, and she's not into me but humoring me. She was probably 10-30 seconds away from a "nice to meet you", when her cuter friend strolls over. Before the new girl can see the facial expression of the first one I introduce myself, and now instead of a negative girl code I got social proof because from looking at me it looked like the first girl and I were having a solid conversation. I end up playing with the new girl for th…
/r/seduction17/11/19 07:02 PM
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If you can find infields of RSD Tyler he's the best.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:47 PM
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Two of my girlfriends were like this. They decided they were going to sleep with me in the first couple minutes, then tried to play it cool. I called one of them on it and she got annoyed but more attracted.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:43 PM
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Yeah all of that is dead on.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:38 PM
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Epic dude! Absolute key habit for the end of an approach: "Who the fuck would have the balls to do that?", "It was 1000/10", and find something funny about it. The fact that you took action pumps you up, not the reaction from the girl.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:05 PM
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Black pill science shows that it attracts shallow people GtFO with that trash. maintain positive attitude. :)
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:00 PM
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She'll feel the way you think about it and it will color the meaning of the handshake. First rule of pickup: Whatever you feel she feels. Honestly it's mostly stylistic. I either launch straight into a story or thought I'm having, or go for a handshake introduction. I'm starting to like launching into a thought more now. It can avoid a lot of dead air if I'm going in a little weak and I need to ramp up. If I do introduce myself it's either "What's your name" or "I'm Hubble", it's random and does…
/r/seduction17/11/19 09:26 AM
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Game isn't therapy. See a therapist.
/r/seduction17/11/19 09:08 AM
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Yes, without a doubt. The key is to not judge yourself for the blowout and laugh about it though. If the girl likes you, the last one will just look like a bitch to her.
/r/seduction17/11/19 09:08 AM
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Honestly man, you're right it's a lot of work to get it down. I think it's worth it, but many people won't. The feeling of being in the zone is a high like nothing else. Those guys who have an easy time of it, probably either have natural game, or pull unattractive girls. Good game is like good plastic surgery, you can't tell.
/r/seduction17/11/19 08:54 AM
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If I were in that situation I would just talk in my native tongue(English) about whatever I want, but have my vocal tone dripping with sex. Even when you're meeting girls who speak your native tongue fluently, the logical word content is frequently irrelevant.
/r/seduction17/11/19 08:46 AM
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Gonna be honest with you: cold approach kinda needs a population center to be done correctly. Can you make it work in a small town? Maybe, but I know I wouldn't be successful.
/r/seduction17/11/19 08:42 AM
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Also great thoughts on what I do after. It all falls under the "The party is here." idea.
/r/seduction17/11/19 05:12 AM
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Heh no, family function that night and she was leaving the next day.
/r/seduction17/11/19 05:07 AM
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Success, I've laid around 9 stunners at this point 14 girls in all, and had a lot of makeouts. My standards are higher than they should be, and I'm not consistent, but I'm making progress. I haven't read MM, but here's my counter: you've been in conversations where the other person is dominating the dynamic. But it isn't always that they're silent and you're trying to hold attention, sometimes they're completely holding the floor and you're at attention. I'm trying for the later vibe. I can do t…
/r/seduction17/11/19 05:03 AM
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One time I was walking down the street and I spotted a food cart with a crowd around it. There's a beautiful girl on the outside of the crowd. So I go up and tell her she's beautiful and get into my flow. All of a sudden I hear the crowd cheer. It's her entire extended family cheering us on.
/r/seduction17/11/19 12:28 AM
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I would wing with normal friends if I were you. Dudes in lairs are usually maladjusted.
/r/seduction17/11/19 12:17 AM
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Find some good theory and put it into immediate and massive practice. Go download the Hotseat at Home. If you want basic social skills though, find clubs or hobbies.
/r/seduction16/11/19 10:09 PM
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Talk to more girls. No such thing as rejection, just a lack of chemistry.
/r/seduction16/11/19 10:08 PM
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It really depends on your vibe. If you're in State, starting with intense statements of intent is fire. "You are gorgeous" and "I love you" are my favorites. Girls will either have a good laugh or melt.
/r/seduction16/11/19 08:14 PM
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Yeah you also wanted to qualify her. She needs to feel she won you over.
/r/seduction16/11/19 08:10 PM
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With #2, I've read theory saying the best way is to rock the venue for social proof before you hit on the bartender. I've never tried it though.
/r/seduction16/11/19 08:08 PM
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Yw, it should be in the hook module iirc. Yeah I've been on that train of too much theory and not enough approaches before. Field is king. Do you have any archives of the RSD nation forum?
/r/seduction16/11/19 07:50 PM
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There was one where he said he was only in town for a week and that they could be best friends and she could show him around. She said they can hang out at the W, implying she didn't want to see him anywhere else. Cut to later in the set, he pushes with a divorced parents line and she says she wasn't initially interested but now wants to have sex with him.
/r/seduction16/11/19 07:43 PM
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Doyouevengamebro?
/r/seduction16/11/19 07:25 PM
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Doyouevengamebro?
/r/seduction16/11/19 07:23 PM
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Check my posts for my FR. What I didn't say in the FR: the friend was annoyed with me when I got in, the smokeshow was a little happy to see me because I rocked up hard, but also skeptical. The "are you on drugs" part was the shit test that once passed got me the social hook. The friend girlcoded against the pull when the smokeshow suggested it, that's why I worked for the sexual hook with her. I got the sexual hook with the friend by ranting authoritatively about hallucinogens. So there are no …
/r/seduction16/11/19 06:49 PM
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I mean, I legit find it entertaining. The reason why is that I don't know what I'm going to say when I'm not thinking ahead. It's a kind of flow activity where you're present. You end up coming up with some really fantastic jokes too. I typically do it in my car on commutes while listening to music. My interpretation is that direct is kind of a style thing, you're still going to be running your mouth no matter what. Or if you're in state you don't have to say much. Sure in the end it's to get la…
/r/seduction16/11/19 05:07 PM
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Eh, it's not about being their entertainment, it's about being yours. That's how it isn't dancing monkey, you aren't doing it trying to impress, but to express. The idea to talk off the dome about what amuses you and not to filter yourself. RSD Ryan used to practice gaming on a wall.
/r/seduction16/11/19 04:38 PM
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My favorite way to do it is by using a the 90-10 rule with authoritative and emotional vocal tone. You do 90% of the talking until the hook. If she's standing there and not dismissing you, she's still giving you a shot. Tell stories or jokes that entertain yourself. Get warmed up by immediately opening the next girl after your set ends. Both state and gaming like this will hook girls.
/r/seduction16/11/19 04:13 PM
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She makes up her mind the second she lays eyes on you Oh for sure that happens. Hey, great for them. Girls like this give you a look right off the open. But it's different when you walk up, she's bland or uninterested, you run your attraction phase then she's fascinated by you. You see her facial expressions and tonity change. You'll also hear her say things like "I wasn't initially interested... ". Or your practice will keep you from losing the first type of girl with silly errors.
/r/seduction16/11/19 03:49 PM
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But the general approach of telling newbs to consider an interaction awesome "no matter what," is a problematic idea to push to newbs because a lot of dudes are unintentionally sexually harassing women when they approach, as their main focus is on overcoming their own fears, not on paying attention to the person they're interacting with. This is why I said "Absolutely BEAT INTO GUYS' HEADS the critical nature of consent, and to develop a crystal clear sense of how comfortable a girl is at every …
/r/seduction16/11/19 05:21 AM
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How old? I'm assuming y'all are young. This probably means you're not turning her on massively. She could be totally honest. You're in the boyfriend zone, not the player zone. The only way to fix this is to game hundreds( or thousands) of other girls for practice. If you just want to enter a relationship with this girl, disregard my advice and take it slow.
/r/seduction16/11/19 03:44 AM
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Nope, game is real. The way you find out is to go out and try it. Go grab some solid theory. I don't care if it's Magic Bullets or RSD(Avoid mark manson), and start approaching 50+ girls a week. You'll answer these questions right quick. ​ All these dudes who doubt game works HAVEN'T TRIED IT.
/r/seduction16/11/19 03:39 AM
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First off, you're in Highschool, there's a lot of bluster going on, so don't compare yourself to others player. Secondly, my suggestion is to go out and actually approach. Nothing builds game like approaching does. Go to the mall, park, and concerts to do this, not at school. Ideally you want to be doing 10-70 approaches a week. Get some good theory. Models is bunk, almost all guys on here don't even game so they recommend it constantly. The Hotseat at Home is solid theory and you can find it wi…
/r/seduction16/11/19 03:28 AM
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I don't use lines, but I use an authoritative or emotional tone in my voice, and strong eye contact. I should use push-pull, usually I do that naturally when I'm feeling solid. That's the part that's core. However the intellectual tech is stuff like fashion, and modern social connections, and use of digital technology(idiosyncrasies of text and phone game), warmup theory, and theory behind becoming confident through reference experiences etc.
/r/seduction16/11/19 03:18 AM
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There's some reddit sub that posts links to content. Google is your friend.
/r/seduction15/11/19 07:46 PM
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Eh, bullshit. While all that is core, there is some real intellectual tech that corresponds to the complex nature of the society we live in. As well as gaining a metaunderstanding of game in order to develop it.
/r/seduction15/11/19 07:40 PM
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Cool, cheers! I suck a eating puss, got a resource?
/r/askTRP15/11/19 07:20 PM
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Fingering is too reminiscent of penetration and can put them in their heads. Could you expand on this?(yeah I'm totally browsing your comments, you're on it man, I hope that's cool.)
/r/askTRP15/11/19 06:35 PM
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She's capable of driving is a good rule.
/r/askTRP15/11/19 05:44 PM
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You're right, but for those approaching at scale, the law of large numbers puts us in danger here even if it's a very minor calibration error or ASD.
/r/askTRP15/11/19 05:43 PM
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Swag for days.
/r/seduction15/11/19 05:01 AM
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Except that a newbie can't start with good game. Learning game is awkward as fuck for almost everyone. So telling a newbie not to approach with bad game is putting them in a catch 22. It's worse than that though, because blowouts are a blessing because they make you icy(unreactive) when you laugh at the social pressure. One of the critical ways to develop natural game is to delusionally tell yourself that an approach was awesome no matter what happened. That doesn't mean don't look for where you…
/r/seduction15/11/19 03:40 AM
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Yeah if this is stickied this is no longer a pickup forum. RIP sub. I wish you a fulfilling life, and pickup isn't for everyone, but this isn't any form of effective seduction advice, that's for certain.
/r/seduction14/11/19 11:55 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/comment/f7gm83b
/r/seduction14/11/19 11:50 PM
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Dead on. How do you deal with this? I run into a similar problem with prematurely ejecting.
/r/seduction14/11/19 08:29 PM
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If you want the best way to initiate, it's triangular gazing: look at one eye, then the other, then the mouth, rinse repeat. As far as actually kissing goes, keep your mouth loose, close your eyes, and mimic her kisses first, start with little to no tongue and then make little changes to figure out what you like. There, you're now better at kissing than 90%+ of people.
/r/seduction14/11/19 08:04 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/comment/f7gm83b
/r/seduction14/11/19 05:26 PM
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You need a solid theoretical foundation. Models is a confused mess that teaches a lot of unnecessary feel good ideas. As a result you're trying too hard to impress and don't see it. Check out RSD's hotseat at home.
/r/seduction14/11/19 05:21 PM
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Doyouevengamebro?
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:59 PM
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what would you have said to continue the convo? So counter-intuitively, your question is wrong. The way to have a flowing conversation with a girl is to not care if she thinks what you're saying is good enough. You want to let whatever comes to mind flow out of your mouth, and laugh about it if it gets you blown out. See how the entire mindset is different? what did you think of my opening line? Is starting off with a compliment good? Same idea, say whatever is fun for you. ​ EDIT: Or if you're …
/r/seduction14/11/19 08:25 AM
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Don't ask a fish how to catch fish. You have much better chances getting her number.
/r/seduction14/11/19 07:30 AM
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I just read about two epic approaches. Funny story man. Keep it up.
/r/seduction14/11/19 07:28 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/dw2v4n/need_some_tips_on_dealing_with_shit_tests/f7gm83b?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/seduction14/11/19 05:31 AM
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Isn't it nice that the only other dudes you see in a bar these days picking up are buff dudes with no game?
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:26 AM
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The Blueprint Dec(h)oded. It was Tyler Durden's biggest brain dump. I don't know where 'state' and the concept of social conditioning originated because I didn't read the ASF forums but the blueprint popularized both concepts.
/r/seduction14/11/19 03:07 AM
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Yeah, that's just bonkers. There are guys on here who think instant makeouts are a myth. They aren't, but going 7/8 is either a lie or you're shooting down blimps. Which is fine, fat girls need love too, but that's not what most of us are after.
/r/seduction13/11/19 10:50 PM
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Ask yourself this: how attractive are reddit girls?
/r/seduction13/11/19 09:35 AM
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That's BS. Models came out in 2011. Modern RSD is mostly a refinement of the blueprint and that came out in 2008.
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:18 AM
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You fucking know it.
/r/seduction13/11/19 03:52 AM
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Coolstorybro
/r/seduction12/11/19 10:04 PM
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Rejection builds the ice man. Step harder next time and focus on how awesome you ran parts of the interaction.
/r/seduction12/11/19 09:49 PM
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You decide this: "I'm awesome because I'm me and it's effective. I am enough. ". Your confidence doesn't have to be grounded in the logical, look at all the scumbags who think that they're God's gift to women. Look at your most hated but powerful politician, they're confident as possible but terrible people based on your value system. More importantly though, the feeling of confidence, not the intellectual rationalization is what matters. Game is animal. Approaching a lot is a hack to feel confi…
/r/seduction12/11/19 09:01 PM
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Bruh, you gotta approach. If you aren't approaching you aren't learning game. Approaching has given me dozen of makeouts with cute girls and around 9 lays with stunners. Not approaching and just playing the long game while I had my life together got me a relationship where I wasn't respected. That's the nature of attraction. Getting your life together is fulfilling and gets you relationships, it doesn't get you girls who are enamored with you.
/r/seduction12/11/19 08:21 PM
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You basically answered my question. What I mean is that I feel try-hard and not self-assured, some nights I'll be rock solid and others I'll be in that try-hard state of mind. So I'll be trying to impress, thinking ahead, flinching at shit-tests etc.
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:39 PM
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I've heard of it and kind of meant to read it at some point. But my pu education has mostly been RSD. How have your results been from it?
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:35 PM
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Field report, it's a journal of approaches. The best ways to learn pickup are 1. Approaching >>>> 2. Reading field reports > 3. Getting some basic theory.
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:10 PM
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What about Clinton and Kennedy? Kennedy slayed.
/r/seduction12/11/19 06:49 PM
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Lol this is some seriously fashy mental masturbation. Dude has an m4a1 on the wall and a Jesus bobble. Jack off if you want to, go find girls too. EDIT: How backward is this sub that I post an FR guys can learn from and it gets 1 comment and upvote, and a fashy rant about porn gets a discussion and 8 votes?
/r/seduction12/11/19 06:32 PM
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G Spot makes her body lose control, Clit makes her mind lose control. Do both and she won’t be able to walk straight. Dope!
/r/seduction12/11/19 06:22 PM
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I've trained myself from being in his state to being able to rock up to any set in any situation with no nervousness a couple times. From being too scared to approach a girl by herself at a bar who is wearing a fuck me dress, to rocking up on the hottest girl in the bar surrounded by cool dudes. The way you do it is by progressive desensitization and hundreds of approaches. Waiting for signals would take you forever to approach enough to extinguish the fear.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:53 PM
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What if he's REALLY hot? Like close to your ideal guy. Honestly.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:45 PM
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Have you tried it, with seriously no emotional flinch? This is the kind of thing that's fun to see how girls' interest in you colors their opinion of everything about you. The best example I know of is going out alone. If your approach is weak or half-stepping and you tell her you're alone, you'll frequently hear 'creepy' 'weird' or get a sour face. If your approach is solid you'll frequently hear 'Oh how brave!' 'That's awesome!'.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:39 PM
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Eh, I've done it at least 50 times(could be 300+ I never journaled that detail but it was a staple of my game for a bit) where she became super happy to talk though. Many of those girls were DD's. Maybe during the day is different, I've never been a day game dude, but friends have told me it doesn't change much. It is a bad idea if I'm not in the zone or sincere enough though, most dudes should follow your advice.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:20 PM
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Learn basic game, find a method that resonates with you and use it. The way quick makeouts typically work is you're in a sexual and confident mood, you are giving her deep eye contact from the open, and you triangular gaze: look at one eye, then the other, then her mouth, repeat until she's looking receptive. If you are good at reading her, then go in while noticing if she's receptive. If you aren't or want to, ask her if you can kiss her. If your game is even somewhat tight, you can get a coupl…
/r/seduction12/11/19 12:08 PM
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So much can be done with makeup it's astounding. Get your makeup on point, and your fashion too. Be good in bed. Date in your league. If you have mental health issues, get them solved. Get in shape. Work on your intelligence, learn about the growth mindset of intelligence. Keep alcohol and cigarettes to a minimum, and use sunscreen every day. That's going to put you in the running for some great men. The bad news is: looks are like 90% of game for girls. The good news is: almost all girls can be…
/r/seduction12/11/19 11:37 AM
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Want to know what feels dirty? Picking up the wedding ring off the floor and handing it to her the morning after. As for the mean hottie, you never know if she'll like you more. Also, her acting like a total bitch to you is an opportunity to not flinch and spark attraction. If you flinch, harsh blowouts just make you icier.
/r/seduction12/11/19 11:21 AM
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Or you could own it.
/r/seduction12/11/19 11:21 AM
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Sidebar.
/r/seduction12/11/19 11:18 AM
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First and foremost, see a therapist. Pickup will still be here when you are ready. I would ask them to have you focus on your anxiety, see where it stems from. It sounds like you're attractive enough that you won't get much out of pickup. Pickup is a demanding hobby, if you'd be happy with just hooking up with the girls who are making advances now, don't bother.
/r/seduction12/11/19 11:03 AM
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Okay that's cool but how are you eliciting this, and isn't this kind of exploration for after the hook?
/r/seduction12/11/19 10:03 AM
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I have 3k+ approaches under my belt, former hard case, and my pickup education is mostly from RSD. My game is essentially defined by putting myself in the emotion I want her feeling, and tends to hit hardest with 9+. So my instincts are good but I have essentially no structure. I just started approaching again this month after years of being out of the game, and have almost totally fought off the AA. I have one FR on this profile that gives an idea of where my game is. If I'm looking for some su…
/r/seduction12/11/19 08:37 AM
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Yeah this is my experience. I have more experience with alpha game, but I've had a couple relationships that were from a beta period of my life. When you go the beta route they don't respect you anywhere near as much and the sex isn't quite as exciting. Actually, psych research says that the beta route has more staying power for relationships.
/r/seduction12/11/19 06:39 AM
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Hahaha no dude they most definitely aren't. How much have you approached? I probably have 15ish instant makeouts with hotties at this point. My favorites: I was walking on the street and walk in super direct on this girl near some street meat. I'm close to her, with deep eye contact, then I start hearing one person chant "Makeout, makeout, makeout..."(I think it was my wing, that dude was a madman) more people join in. The chant reaches a crescendo until finally we kiss. We pull away from each o…
/r/seduction12/11/19 06:29 AM
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Doyouevengamebro?
/r/seduction12/11/19 06:16 AM
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Anything that makes me happy.
/r/seduction12/11/19 06:14 AM
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NEVER start with “wow you’re really beautiful” that is perceived as threatening if you say it right off the bat to a woman who’s never met you. Oh that's nothing. I've made out with a couple SMOKESHOWZ by starting with a heartfelt "I love you" or "You are gorgeous". The delivery and the emotional place it's coming from is absolutely critical, my game was on lock those nights. Overall though, thanks for giving some very chill advice.
/r/seduction12/11/19 06:06 AM
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Cool, I'll give this a shot. I am now remembering that one of my girls said that she had cum more times with me than all of her boyfriends combined.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:51 AM
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That's a nice cane, is it made of real wood?
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:31 AM
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Most people go their whole lives not even understand that all the girls with them are faking orgasms. Holy fuck that's depressing, I hope it isn't true.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:18 AM
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That's interesting. Even my first kiss was tingling and intoxicating. As long as the girl is hot, for me sex is the closest thing to a spiritual experience I can get. Losing my virginity was nerve-wracking, but overall positive. I also read a couple books about sex like these guys are recommending though.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:14 AM
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Richard Hitchens(F) got some flak some years ago. He said that women don't need to be funny, the exceptions are lesbians. That laughing is an act of submission, the head is thrown back, mouth open, open body language. He said that only men need to be funny to spread their genes.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:02 AM
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For better or worse, men have a LOT more leeway on looks than girls, because we can arouse with game about as well as Adonis can. Think about world leaders, you think Trump or Clinton don't have their pick if they wanted it? Now think about Hillary or Merkel, can you say the same?
/r/seduction12/11/19 04:43 AM
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I've seen threads popping up here and there saying there are mega shares. A little Google-fu should find them.
/r/seduction12/11/19 04:29 AM
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This is one thing I think about. You put yourself into a dominant and sexual role in the girl's mind early on, but if you try to transition to a more supportive role you can start to lose some of the dominance that makes her sexually attracted to you. There is probably a way to transition slowly and strike a balance, I'm curious what people have discovered. I've been in a sexual relationship on the NG and Alpha side in different times in my life. I much prefer the later, the sex is better, the g…
/r/seduction12/11/19 04:26 AM
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Jared Leto(or insert your favorite celeb heart throb here) approaches you with your headphones in while you're working, are you annoyed?
/r/seduction12/11/19 03:43 AM
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Advice like this is so common and famously bad it actually has a name: "ball is in your court method". You're asking the girl to take the dominant role in the interaction. You're asking her to lead you to sex. Sometimes she's into you enough, and masculine enough to do it. Hey that's great, whatever floats your proverbial boat, but most girls aren't going to go for this. Just like most aren't going to be approaching you even if they're obsessing about you.
/r/seduction12/11/19 02:01 AM
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You're looking in the wrong place for the solution, talk to more girls. If I were you I would make friends with this girl if you think she's cool, put her out of your mind as a sexual partner because she's obviously chasing the other dude over you.
/r/seduction12/11/19 01:47 AM
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Some scumbag in the UK stalked girls and called himself a PUA, and got 2 years in jail for it. The bad press along with all recent drama about PUAs, incels, and RSD hate(Julien went over the line tbf) gave YouTube the desire to remove PUA from the platform.
/r/seduction12/11/19 01:23 AM
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The Hotseat at Home is the best material I've ever seen, and I've looked at way too much theory. They're not selling it now, so however you can get your hands on it I wouldn't be too guilty. Just be sure to do the exercises. You're doing MM, so going into state management and natural game might be a jump, but with some effort it should synergize with what you're doing.
/r/seduction12/11/19 01:14 AM
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Huh, and here I just saw a kickass approach dude. You went with the adventure which is awesome, and froze because you didn't have a game plan. That's normal and fixable. That enthusiastic energy you had while dancing? You can channel the same energy into any conversational topic, no matter how boring or random. Just divorce the emotion from the content. Add an authoritative twist to the emotion, and you know how to re-engage on the lull. Chill back a little after they start trying to contribute …
/r/seduction12/11/19 01:07 AM
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Badass approaches dude. 1000/10. Noise attenuating earplugs, especially custom ones, make hearing speech in the club easier. I recommend a voice lesson or RSD's Resonator program to learn vocal projection. Becoming resistant to social pressure is something that comes with approaches within the night, and lots of approaches over months. There are reframes you can do in your own head that help though. Seeing them and you as parts of a whole, that you're on the same team trying to create a fun nigh…
/r/seduction12/11/19 12:56 AM
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Woooooooo! Well done! Keep going my dude. If you fit in a few of these a day you'll be flying in no time. The Hotseat At Home, or Todd Valentine's YouTube video on AA are both good. Once you get in the habit of doing it every day, you can put yourself into some crazy high social pressure situations without flinching after a month or two. For example: rocking up on the hottest girl in the bar with 5 jacked dudes surrounding her. That becomes routine.
/r/seduction12/11/19 12:36 AM
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Don't think ahead. When you talk, it's to amuse yourself, or turn yourself on. The content of your speech is irrelevant, it's about the emotions that you are conveying. First rule of game: Whatever you feel she feels.
/r/seduction12/11/19 12:22 AM
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My favorite exercise that shows this in full force is to tell girls you're alone when you go out. If your approach is mediocre you'll get called creepy. If you boss up, you'll get called brave.
/r/seduction12/11/19 12:06 AM
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Thanks for this, it was a great read. I especially liked the first 2 sections. My favorite takeaway was "thank you for your no" I always appreciate clear communication like that from a girl. I want to try out affirmative consent more often, I've traditionally been in the camp of watch for signals of receptiveness, make bold moves, but stop at the slightest sign of discomfort. The problem I see with affirmative consent in many instances is that it flies in the face of "change her mood not her min…
/r/seduction11/11/19 11:54 PM
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Bingo =D These days I've been thinking of confidence as an emotional pallet. There are a number of specific emotions you can only feel in that state of mind.
/r/seduction11/11/19 11:27 PM
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Sure there can be other causes, but if you see the fluctuation and you're aware of lighting conditions then it's useful. If you have pupils but none others, something is probably rotten in Denmark. If you didn't catch baseline when you rocked up, then you don't know if it was you. I mean, ideally you're making deep eye contact as much as possible anyway, seeing the diameter at that point is an afterthought. I take in the other indicators too, maybe it's confirmation bias but I still feel like di…
/r/seduction11/11/19 11:21 PM
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You go to a party, she's into you. Ask her to netflix and chill when you're at the last hour of the party, or fuck it, whenever you feel like it. You cannot mess this up if you tried.
/r/seduction11/11/19 10:03 PM
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Every approach is 1000/10 no matter what happens. Find something funny about it, and ask yourself "who the fuck would have the balls to do that?". There is a learning curve to going out alone and minimizing time in between interactions. You are fighting doubts about whether or not this will work, if it's a waste of time, you may have the bad habit of judging yourself after a set, approaching is scary when you don't trust that you will know what to do in the moment, with the wrong mindset it's ea…
/r/seduction11/11/19 09:33 PM
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Oh cool so it's not just me? The 6th approach with no time in between sets is usually the sweet spot?
/r/seduction11/11/19 09:25 PM
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Wooo 1000/10! Keep it up!
/r/seduction11/11/19 09:24 PM
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99.9* Old Rsd stuff is legit though.
/r/seduction11/11/19 09:18 PM
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When her pupils dilate you can more easily see reflections in contrast with the black background, so they seem to sparkle. Pupil dilation is IOI numero uno.
/r/seduction11/11/19 09:15 PM
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If you can get a girl to say she's into you, she's invested and you're gonna cut down on flakes. Yeah, you obviously don't want to do it in a validation seeking way. Not sure about the pants line, getting her to say she's not trying to seduce you is not ideal. Not terrible either, just meh. Prize frame is always solid though.
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:58 PM
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There is an analogue to shit-tests for guys: screens. You have some requirements for girls, and you get her to attempt to convince you that she meets the requirements.
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:50 PM
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I don't think knowing what you want matters much. You meet girls you have chemistry with, and that tends to happen with girls who have complimentary personality traits and physical features you like. It's hard to know what you like, or what exists, before playing the field a lot. Just keep approaching, you learn about women, humans, and yourself through the interactions.
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:44 PM
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Wait isn't Singapore insanely conservative? This seems like a dicey decision.
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:41 PM
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I wouldn't be antagonistic with my response, I wouldn't make it seem like you've been caught either. You're red blooded male, guys approach girls, that's normal. Any girl who tries to make you believe otherwise, isn't into you, and is falling for the human cognitive bias of assuming her preferences are the same as other girl's. You did make them feel forgettable though, so have some empathy. Maybe be more judicious in who you approach on campus, pick out your favorites more, rather than using it…
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:38 PM
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The focus for me is to have fun and the girl feels that off of me. When I'm talking, I'm saying/doing things that make me feel good, and the whether she likes it is secondary(while being hyperaware of consent, if she so much as flinches or her pupils constrict I calmly back off immediately ) . I'm not teeing up stuff to say in order to impress her. I'm letting it flow and I'll frequently surprise myself with how funny or smooth I am. That isn't to say I don't do the technicals too: screen for lo…
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:28 PM
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Pickup isn't therapy my dude.
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:04 PM
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I typically am a little annoyed whenever I have to run a set near the bar. You get interrupted by drink orders and have to stand there with your thumb up your ass during the process. I don't like looking like I'm waiting on her before I've hooked. But hey if it works for you, you do you. I like roaming more and approaching girls who are stationary. The less I have to compete with in terms of distractions early in the set the better, exceptions must be made for smokeshows or sparse environments t…
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:01 PM
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Apparently according to "EveryBODY talks" crossed arms are frequently self-soothing. Eh, you miss every shot you don't take, and if you're in a good mood you'll make most girls' days a little better. If the approach doesn't go well, that's practice under your belt that will make more girls happier in the future.
/r/seduction11/11/19 07:47 PM
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If you're willing to put in the work of 10 approaches per day, I recommend downloading the Hotseat at Home and watching it, and doing the exercises for real. You don't need any more theory than that. The best way to get over not having anything to say, is to say literally anything with authority and enthusiasm. Say herp derp duur, or describe a place in your town, or tell a boring story, but say it like it's the coolest thing in the world. Girls don't give a fuck about the words when you're in a…
/r/seduction11/11/19 03:57 PM
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He's giving you bad advice. Often girls who give no signals will be extremely excited to meet you when you rock up. You're leaving a lot on the table when you just wait for signals. Your lack of confidence can also turn dates platonic easily, that isn't to say don't be honest and vulnerable though. Also, yes you absolutely can convince a girl who initially doesn't like your initial appearance to like you. Being the physical embodyment of male beauty is useful because it creates a certain emotion…
/r/seduction11/11/19 03:48 PM
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Concerts are the under 21 year old's bread and butter for practice, big college parties can be good too but they're rarer. House parties are where it's at for getting laid. Just be careful to limit your more ambitious practice to places where you're more anonymous. Getting a lot of blow outs at a house party can be bad for your social circle.
/r/seduction11/11/19 03:21 PM
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I have some theories but I just started going out again recently so I forget the details. Hotter girls see a dude with game and think they're in your league so they respond well, guys with tight game are rare so it's exciting. Middle of the road girls see a dude way too cool for them and reject you for an ego boost. You're more engaged with the hotter girls, so she feels that, and your verbals are more on point. The middle girls feel that your heart isn't in it. Ugly girls are just happy they're…
/r/seduction11/11/19 02:59 PM
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What are you trying to accomplish by saying this? I bet guys approach you all the time. This says nothing about the dynamic between you and her, it's useless. I'm sure you say that every guy. What are you trying to accomplish here? Get her to invest by saying you're special? That's a solid idea, but there are probably better ways to do it that can't be misconstrued as insecure.
/r/seduction11/11/19 02:38 PM
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Yeah you're doing it wrong. You're getting boyfriend excuses because your approach is weak. Large mixed sets are an opportunity to shine, not feel intimidated. Also, game works best on the hottest women. I don't know why, it just does, so if you aren't rockin up on stunners you're doing it wrong. Approach a lot, find some theory with a solid progression framework(I like hotseat at home) , and always tell yourself your approach was awesome no matter what happens.
/r/seduction11/11/19 02:26 PM
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This was a fun one, glad y'all had fun.
/r/seduction11/11/19 02:10 PM
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Epic dude, keep at it! The way to get good is to do 10+ approaches a day. Almost no one does this, but that's how it works.
/r/seduction11/11/19 12:28 PM
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Of course when shown a picture of one dude who is physically attractive and one who isn't, she's going to pick the stud. That's not what game is about. Game is about being emotionally relevant. Looking like a stud is an emotional trigger for girls, but equally so is rock solid confidence or exciting/sexual communication. OP, go out to a bar or club and do this: approach girls such that you spend almost no time out of interactions during the night. Homely girls, fat girls, old girls, hot ones, it…
/r/seduction11/11/19 12:17 PM
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Yup, the way you fix this is to give yourself more opportunities and make the focus on the development of your game and your own happiness, not any particular girl. Take the best shot you can, be happy with yourself no matter what happens: "who the fuck would have the balls to do that? , 1000/10" , find something funny about it.
/r/seduction11/11/19 12:00 PM
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