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I will answer with a very personal story. I was a virgin up until 26 years old. I was bad with dating and didn't have any steady girlfriends. At 26, I brought a girl home after a second date and we went back to my room. I fumbled around with my condom because I hadn't actually used one, and she asked me if I needed help. After I finally got the condom out of the package, I was so nervous I went flaccid. We did not end up having sex that night. She asked me if I was a virgin, and I said yes it wa…
/r/seduction01/08/17 07:35 AM
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Hi aldjfh, First things first: do not force yourself to "make something happen" in 1 month. You already touched upon it in point 3, but behaving as if you're running out of time will subconsciously come off as very desperate, which kills attraction. Second, it seems like you have anxiety towards being awkward and saying something out of place. This is an area you can direct your focus. If you see social interactions as a minefield that you have to carefully navigate, you will always live inside …
/r/seduction23/07/17 08:14 AM
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Great article. It reminds me of something that I once read: It's easy to desire your goals. Everybody wants nice things. But not everyone wants to deal with all the crap to get there. You can't succeed by wanting your goals even more. You can only succeed by wanting to deal with the crap. In dating, this means you have to be at peace with rejection and embarrassment. And that's the biggest hurdle that most people will have when it comes to cold approaching. People can read up all the advice, but…
/r/seduction17/07/17 08:00 AM
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Excellent post sunframe, If you want to make friends, don't wait for people to invite you out. Be the one to invite them. If you want to date women, don't wait for her to make a move. Be the one to make the move. And for both, realize that some people may say "no" to you, and that's perfectly fine. Also, "no" now doesn't mean they won't want to hang out with you or date you in the future.
/r/seduction17/02/17 02:47 AM
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Hey Quinton, I like this video. What you talked about is related to the common seduction advice to assume that a girl likes you when you're talking to her. You don't know whether she does or not. But you just assume it's the case because it is the reality that you want to create. And so everytime she smiles, everytime she responds, everytime she looks in your eyes, everytime she laughs, you're just using all of that as evidence that she likes you. When you're confident she likes you, it changes …
/r/seduction08/12/16 06:32 PM
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Hey fakenamehere, My biggest strategy is to realize that I don't need to be anything "extra" in order to interact and have fun with a girl. I don't need to be extra funny, exciting, interesting, and witty in order to be attractive. What this means is that i can be at ease with however I am feeling at that moment, and I don't have to force anything to happen, things will happen organically. In practice, this means that I don't have to force myself to be funny if I don't feel like it, or if the op…
/r/seduction05/12/16 08:57 PM
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No way. I'm a textbook example of an introvert. I'm short, skinny, and very average looking. It didn't take me more than 20 approaches to get dates. For day-game, you need to answer the right questions: Why are you talking to me; and How long is this going to take? Your answers should always be: I'm here to talk to you because I'm sexually interested; and This is going to take like 10 minutes. You do this by saying: "Hi, I wanted to come say hi because I think you're cute"; and "I can't stay lon…
/r/seduction04/12/16 08:10 AM
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Hey vertical_bird_device, 1. Where to meet women Coffee shops and parks. Don't overburden yourself with choices. Just stick to those for now. 2. How to approach At a coffee shop, buy your drink and go sit at her table. At a park, go stand/sit beside her. No excuse/reason needed. Just physically move your body there. 3. What to say "Hey, this is a bit forward of me. I wanted to come talk to you because I think you're cute." This is how you introduce yourself. No beating around the bush. If she's …
/r/seduction04/12/16 07:59 AM
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Of course. Seduction/pickup/dating will test your emotional resolve. It's unlike any other forms of self-improvement. It's unlike getting fit or getting a job or learning how to play a sport. It can feel intensely personal at times, and it will test your insecurities. However, I've realized in my experience that a lot of the emotional hardship is self-induced. Do not attach your confidence, self-esteem and self-worth in the hands of another person. Do not judge yourself so harshly for being reje…
/r/seduction30/11/16 06:55 AM
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Don't do it. Yearning for an ex puts a man in a very terrible mindset.
/r/seduction26/11/16 09:44 PM
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Great job. Important point to pick out. When a girl says "I'm not going to sleep with you" out of the blue, it means she's thinking of having sex with you. Women will throw that out there so they can have plausible deniability. Best way is to handle it like OP handled it. Act like it's no big deal and continue to escalate, because it's what she would want you to do.
/r/seduction21/11/16 02:35 AM
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Hey bugxter, If you're thinking that, then you will always lose in the end. That's because if you think she's too good to lose, it'll affect every stage of your relationship with her. You're going to be too afraid to lose the friendship. You're going to be too afraid to lose her as your girlfriend, etc. Either be ok with just being friends, or make a move. But don't be stuck in the middle. In other words, don't just be her friend simply because you were too afraid to make a move.
/r/seduction20/11/16 08:53 PM
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Realize the vast majority of mistakes you make in your life won't survive the day. Made an unfunny joke? No one remembers by tomorrow. Got rejected by a girl? No one's going to give you shit about it 20 minutes later. Accidentally said something disrespectful? The next girl you talk to won't know anything about it. That's how you stop giving fucks. You make mistakes and you see for yourself how short lived or trivial the consequences are.
/r/seduction17/11/16 10:55 AM
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Hey No1988, I've been where you are. Do the following things. They will help. 1. Unfollow or block her on social media. You will have a very strong urge to check it. Everytime you give in will re open your wound. 2. Plan out your day. Split your day into 1-hour increments, and plan what you will do in those hours. On a scale of 1-10, predict how happy you think you will feel when you do that activity. At the end of the day, write down how happy you actually felt. After doing this exercise, you w…
/r/seduction17/11/16 10:34 AM
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Hey jlai928, The one major thing that stands out is the days and times that you picked. Friday night and Saturdays are usually NOT a good time to pick for first dates. Those are times when people go out and have fun with their friends after a long week. She is unlikely to be available. Furthermore, you don't want to give off the impression that you are available during those times, even if you are. It makes it look like you don't have things going on in your life. Pick Sunday night for a weekend…
/r/seduction17/11/16 10:16 AM
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Hey suxess6, For Girl 1, tell her you don't want to keep her away from work, though you'd like to get her number and take her for a coffee. For a girl that's working, it's tough because she's not going to be available to stick around and talk, or even if she is she'll be aware that she's at work. Best bet is to keep it short by saying hello, asking if she's having a good day, and then getting that number. For Girl 2, go ahead and be direct. Don't go indirect if you're not planning on taking the …
/r/seduction17/11/16 07:14 AM
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"Do you have a boyfriend?"
/r/seduction14/11/16 11:34 PM
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Hey juskeepinitreal, Fear of success and fear of failure is rooted in the same fear: The fear that you won't be able to handle what comes after We're not really afraid of someone saying no to us. Those are just words. What we're really afraid of is that we don't know how we're going to handle the rejection after. We're afraid of what other people will think. We're afraid of awkwardly seeing them again. We're afraid we might feel worthless after. Same thing with the fear of success. We're afraid …
/r/seduction09/11/16 03:57 AM
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Be more assertive, be less apologetic. When you replied "I'm free most of the rest of the week and if she free/down to lmk, if not I understand", you committed 3 mistakes: 1. You made yourself too available. Whether you realized it or not, you made yourself appear less interesting because you inferred you have nothing else going on. 2. You left the ball in her court. Since you're the one who wants to ask her out, the onus is on you to find a place, time, and day that works for both of you. Don't…
/r/seduction08/11/16 08:28 AM
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This is a central theme in "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Robert Glover. There is nothing wrong with being nice. However, there is something wrong in thinking that: Being nice is sufficient in being attractive; and/or Being nice entitles you to a sexual outcome By all means, continue to be a nice and pleasant person. But you need something more than that when attracting women. In addition to being nice, the best way to demonstrate your attractiveness is always confidence: Be bold enough to make a mov…
/r/seduction07/11/16 04:17 AM
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Hey Ventari, If you're referring specifically to group settings where you are talking and other people start talking over you, here are some tips: 1. First method: Continue to speak as if no one has interrupted you If you are in the middle of a sentence, and someone decides to cut you off, simply continue your sentence. You are the original speaker, so you have the stage. Example: I was at the candy store to buy some chocolate bars, and a gorilla was at the checkout line to purchase a highlighte…
/r/seduction06/11/16 07:05 PM
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Anyone who's not socially retarded should understand what's going on. I don't agree with you. I can think of a female friend that I only view platonically. If she invited me to eat pizza and play pool, I wouldn't assume she's treat it as a date on that basis. You are partially correct in that you don't have to explicitly state it's a date (although it helps avoid confusion entirely). However, the only reason she'd ever react the way she did is because you didn't do anything that signified this w…
/r/seduction05/11/16 01:26 AM
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Hey sonofz3us, I don't know what I can say to help you. I only wanted to say that I read everything.
/r/seduction05/11/16 01:15 AM
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Some of the most attractive women aren't being approached as much as you think they are. That's because every guy is feeling the same fear and nervousness as you, and the vast majority of them won't take action. I once dated a very attractive athletic girl who told me that she had never been approached the way I approached her before (ie. direct). Sure, she's always had guys orbiting around her. They trying to befriend her with the hopes of dating her, and being very pussyfoot about it. But neve…
/r/seduction04/11/16 06:39 AM
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Hey yummbeary, I'm always open to experimentation. Thanks, I'll incorporate your advice.
/r/seduction03/11/16 09:25 PM
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Hey Velcade, A great way to substitute a question is to assume the answer and make it a statement. Eg.) You want to find out if she plays a sport. Question version: "Do you play any sports?" Statement version: "You seem like you'd enjoy playing something like soccer" They serve the same function: to invite her to share information about herself. Other great ways to avoid interview mode involve combinations of repeating what she says to you, using silence, finding out her "why", relating to her e…
/r/seduction03/11/16 06:41 PM
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/r/seduction03/11/16 03:49 PM
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Excellent post. I want to go one step further and translate each truth to beliefs you can adopt. 1. Only make time for people who make time for you It doesn't matter how long or short it takes for a woman to respond to you. It doesn't matter how long or short her texts are. It doesn't matter when she sees your message. All that matters is whether she shows up when it counts. People make time for things that are important to them. When the rubber hits the road, all that matters is whether she agr…
/r/seduction02/11/16 11:24 PM
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It depends on how often this is happening, and in what context. If it's the first time, let it slide. Stuff like this happens all the time. Just look back at messages and texts you've had with various people over the years. You'll find that there were tons of instances where conversations just dropped for no reason. And you didn't think twice about it. If it's happening occasionally, like for example she responds to you frequently but also drops the conversation randomly, consider that you may b…
/r/seduction01/11/16 02:05 AM
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There is nothing wrong with you. However, your belief that the courting process is bullshit is what's contributing to your frustration. You have to learn to enjoy the 'song and dance'; the little games that men and women play; the successes and failures; the interactions that go somewhere, and the interactions that don't; the women's personalities, interests, and feminine energies. Basically, you have to learn to be at peace with the realities of meeting and seducing women. If not, then you will…
/r/seduction31/10/16 10:08 PM
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When you do this enough, you'll realize #s don't mean anything. It's actually very easy to get a number. Having something come out of that number? That all depends on whether there was a good connection, and also involves factors beyond your control.
/r/seduction31/10/16 10:00 PM
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Imagine being that guy, and then be that guy. Eliminate excuses and watch what happens. NEVER ask why, ask why not? I love this. It reminds me of a time where I approached a woman at a bus stop. At one point, she said to me, "So where did you get this confidence to strike up a random conversation like this?" And in my mind, I was thinking "just now." There was no supporting evidence that told me I could be this confident. There wasn't anybody that I had to get permission from to be confident. At…
/r/seduction31/10/16 09:41 PM
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Texting Principles: Short, Sweet, and Concise. Self explanatory. Keep the texts short, keep it positive, and get to the point. Keep those principles in mind when returning her texts. If you're concerned about running out of things to say on the date, then just don't say much over text. Don't worry, you're not going to lose her interest just because you're not texting much. Once, I had set up a date with a woman 2 weeks away and didn't text her the whole time until the day before. Still had the d…
/r/seduction30/10/16 08:37 AM
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Hey IndianWise, Will offer some insight to the best of my ability. As a primer, non-verbals are way more important than the words you speak. So from the outset, it doesn't seem like there was anything wrong with what you said. And as I don't know how your non-verbals were, it's hard to gauge. First Interaction You can be more direct. You seem to say a lot of words to skirt around the issue: you want to ask her out. Other than that, she has a boyfriend (or claims she does). Not much you can do. S…
/r/seduction30/10/16 08:25 AM
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Hey Iwillreachtherocket, I fantasize about those things too. You know what I like to do? I like to make those fantasies into a reality. The reason why I imagine those situations is because, subconsciously, I wish I was that type of person that would do those things. And so I say to myself: "Why just imagine myself being that person? Why not BE that person?" Example 1 Fantasy: I imagine myself being really good at playing a sport so that people cheer me on and think I'm awesome. Reality: I join a…
/r/seduction30/10/16 05:36 AM
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First ever approach At shopping mall, see cute brunette walking my way. "Hey, I know this is random but I think you're kinda cute. Can I get your number and we can go for coffee sometime?" "Hey... I actually have a boyfriend. But good on you for trying. That was very nice of you." I walked away smiling, knowing that I can do this. First approach that translated to a date (about 2 months after first ever approach) At park, see cute blonde chillin in the sun. Walk up to her, making eye contact the…
/r/seduction28/10/16 08:34 AM
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Being nervous is natural and involuntary. You can't stop yourself from being nervous. All you can do is get better at handling it. When I did my first few approaches, I was talking a million words per minute and stuttering over 1 syllable words. I broke into sweat and said dumb things. It gets better.
/r/seduction28/10/16 08:20 AM
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I practice my social skills by chatting with any kind of stranger. I only practice flirting with a woman I find attractive. I find it disingenuous and pointless for me to flirt with a girl that I'm not attracted to, so I don't.
/r/seduction28/10/16 08:17 AM
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Hey Hungarian throwaway, There are 3 ways a woman can react to your physical touch: Positively Neutrally Negatively Positively She returns physical contact back to you. This is good and it means you can escalate further with confidence. Neutrally She does nothing. She neither returns physical touch, nor pulls away. This is still good because it means she is comfortable with your touch. You can escalate. Negatively She pulls away or rejects your advance. This does not mean "abort mission!". This …
/r/seduction28/10/16 08:09 AM
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Yea, it really does work well. It's even better when they say something like: "No, I don't play soccer. What makes you think that?", because then you can get even more playful with making observations about her: "The way you got your hair tied back gives off a nice sporty look"
/r/seduction26/10/16 07:21 AM
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Hey pussyliquor, Not sure if this is what you meant, but you can convert a question into a statement by assuming the answer. Example You want to know if she plays any sports as a hobby. Question: "Do you play any sports?" Statement: "You seem like someone who enjoys playing soccer." Both versions aim to do the same thing: invite her to share information about herself about playing sports as a hobby
/r/seduction26/10/16 06:31 AM
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If you're trying to be funny, you're trying too hard. If you're trying to be interesting, you're trying too hard. It's a fickle thing. We want to improve, but it's also easy to let it become something forced. Here's some tips: Don't try to be funny. If something funny can be said, then say it. But don't seek for it, and don't try to force it. You don't need to be funny. Don't try to be interesting. Instead, be interested.
/r/seduction21/10/16 07:27 AM
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The Problem Here's the reason why: When we like someone, we tend to shift a lot of our focus around them. We tend to occupy more of our mind to them, and we begin to attach a lot of our emotional resources towards what they say/do. THIS is the basis of what creates needy behaviour. Since you're thinking about them and investing emotional resources in them, you naturally want to receive some sort of payoff in order to reassure you that your investment has not gone wasted. See, this type of invest…
/r/seduction20/10/16 06:58 PM
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Then just treat her as any other friend that you have. Make plans with her to do stuff, and invite your own friends and ask her to invite her friends.
/r/seduction19/10/16 04:12 AM
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The only positive way you can get by continuing to be involved with her is if: You are 100% absolutely okay with being just her friend; and/or She has attractive friends that you would like to meet. If any part of you is still holding out for the possibility of getting sexual/romantic with her, then no.
/r/seduction19/10/16 04:01 AM
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Hi punnyusername, You've already identified the main obstacle with approaching in the gym: Most people don't like to be interrupted in their workout, and aren't interested in having an extended conversation. Another obstacle is that it's a closed environment. Regardless of how the interaction goes, both you and her are still going to be in the same environment to continue with your respective workouts. Also, it's likely you will see each other again in the future. Being aware of these obstacles …
/r/seduction19/10/16 03:56 AM
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Sure, you can give it one more go. But you have to ask yourself what you're trying to get out of this. If she already has a boyfriend, what sort of 'interest' are you trying to get out of her? Because it seems like the only outcomes you are trying to achieve are: Getting her to break up with her boyfriend to start dating you; or Get her to start seeing you behind her boyfriend's back.
/r/seduction19/10/16 03:25 AM
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If you have to cut her out of your life to make it easier on you, then do it. You're not obligated to stay friends with her, especially if it's difficult for you to stay only friends.
/r/seduction19/10/16 02:49 AM
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Points of improvement: Don't say "you look like you're single". I know why you said it. You were trying to figure out her relationship status. But if she really was single, she can easily take it the wrong way, as if you're implying there's something wrong with her. Next time, just ask. About the age part, just answer the question. As for the rest, it seems like she was needlessly standoffish. It may be something you said, or maybe not. Don't concern yourself with it. The main takeaway from this…
/r/seduction19/10/16 02:47 AM
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You can try to make a move, but I wouldn't hedge your bets on getting the outcome that you want. You're in the friendzone, and it's better to just move on.
/r/seduction19/10/16 02:38 AM
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Added her on Instagram to see if she had a boyfriend and she does, but she has never mentioned him. I think she is gorgeous and she has a great personality. Should I make a move? Will I look creepy? I’m kind of confused, any advice would help! You just answered your own question. If she has a boyfriend, why are you even bothering?
/r/seduction19/10/16 02:35 AM
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1. Abundance mentality The biggest improvement you can make in cold approaching is realising there will always be more opportunities in the future. There will always be more women to meet, and there will always be some who will be interested. 2. Making your intentions clear The best way to counter flaking is to let her know exactly why you are asking for her number. Instead of saying "let me get your number and maybe we can grab coffee sometime," say "I want to take you on a date. How does Wedne…
/r/seduction17/10/16 06:46 PM
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Don't ask her whether she saw it. Wait a few days. If she still hasn't responded, ask her out again as if nothing happened. If still no response, move on.
/r/seduction15/10/16 04:23 PM
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Yes. I don't really keep track of the rate of flakes or fakes. You're gonna have some flakes and/or fakes. No way around it. In my experience, it's never as bad as some have suggested. There are people out there that'll tell you that day-game is a grindhouse of 20 approaches a day. I don't even count how many approaches anymore. I just go about my day, if a cute girl presents herself I go talk to her. Sometimes more happens, sometimes not. It's not everytime, but it's not exactly rare either.
/r/seduction13/10/16 06:55 AM
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I'm that shy awkward guy, so yes absolutely. And I always go direct. That's usually because I'm too awkward and uncreative to come up with anything snazzy to say, so I just go "hey I think you're kinda cute."
/r/seduction12/10/16 06:24 AM
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I don't know whether a man would have more success than a woman in cold approaching, but I also think it doesn't matter. What I think matters is defining your own personal success. Who cares if attractive women have more options than men, generally? If I've been seeing 3 women, I don't care about whether there are other men in the picture. All I'm thinking is, "Man, I'm seeing 3 women."
/r/seduction11/10/16 08:30 PM
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Daytime cold approaching. Maybe I'm biased because that's where I've had my success. I don't have awesome pictures or good looks to stand out in online dating. I don't have superior conversation skills and energy to cut it in bars/nightclubs. But I do have the willingness to try and fail. Since I'm not physically attractive, I be attractive by taking a chance, being bold, and making a move. Since I'm not a talker and pretty low energy, I listen to what they have to say and let them fill in the s…
/r/seduction11/10/16 04:37 PM
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I don't have links, but one useful way to utilise the Time Bridge concept during the first date is to help her visualise a subsequent date with you. For example, say you guys are walking in the park on your first date. The conversation steers towards hobbies and interests, and the topic of skating comes up. You can help her visualise a second date with you by painting a picture where you take her skating on a date. Get real creative here, and have fun with it. And the thing is, your second date …
/r/seduction07/10/16 08:19 PM
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Didn't think of that, but you're absolutely right.
/r/seduction07/10/16 08:07 PM
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This is a really good contribution. Physical escalation is key. I wasn't thinking about that, but good point.
/r/seduction07/10/16 04:42 AM
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Haha yep.
/r/seduction07/10/16 01:41 AM
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fuckin' Steve
/r/seduction07/10/16 12:35 AM
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When I first started, I used certain lines. After I kept using them over and over again, it became integrated into my vernacular. Then, I focused more on the principle rather than the line. Once you understand the principle, you don't need lines. Example 1 Canned line = "You seem like you study something interesting. I'm going to guess psychology." Principle = Making statements/assumptions is a good alternative to asking questions. It achieves the same purpose as it invites the other person to s…
/r/seduction06/10/16 02:05 AM
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Yep
/r/seduction06/10/16 12:14 AM
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She's using you as an emotional tampon. Stop talking to her.
/r/seduction05/10/16 02:28 PM
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"I only date black guys too. Anyway, as I was saying..."
/r/seduction04/10/16 12:36 AM
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Hi holyknight_123, You're overthinking it. Do either. Or just stop her before you pass her.
/r/seduction29/09/16 11:38 PM
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Hey khashin, Excellent post. One of the best ways you can make progress in seduction is to learn how to react to your own emotions Men, as with women, can suffer from self-esteem issues. It can easily manifest itself as neediness when it comes to your relationship with women. You can't control your emotions of insecurity. But what you can do is decide how you will react when you feel insecure and needy. You can either blow up a girl's phone because she didn't text you back. Or you can step back,…
/r/seduction27/09/16 01:26 AM
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Hey biggestbangs, Great question. I'm going to share with you my Rule of Three First time = Let it slide If a person does something that you don't like for the first time, give them the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes people say or do something inappropriate without meaning to. Nobody's perfect. This applies to everything. If a girl shit tests or flakes on you for the first time, just ignore it and carry on as if nothing happened. If a person offends you or does something you don't like, ignore …
/r/seduction25/09/16 03:52 AM
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Well, you just told us. Why tell it to a girl? Honestly, that poor girl doesn't deserve to have your insecurities dumped on her.
/r/seduction24/09/16 11:04 PM
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Invite her back to your place. Just let your parents know you're bringing someone over so they understand and respect your space. It doesn't have to be a big deal if you don't make it a big deal.
/r/seduction24/09/16 10:39 PM
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I once received a very important advice that I will pass on to you now = when you really like a girl, that's when you need to SLOW it down. Take some time to cool down. Don't text her or spend time with her as much. You're feelings ARE going to affect your judgement, so it's time to slow things down. It's entirely possible for someone to want to have sex with you, but not be emotionally invested in you. Try to take a step back first. Next step is to be clear about your intentions. Next time you …
/r/seduction24/09/16 02:09 AM
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Hey swedishfetus, I think you handled it well. I wouldn't do anything different, certainly not confronting her about being ghosted. I know it's tempting to want closure, but it really doesn't matter what reason she had. If she decided to stop seeing you, she decided to stop seeing you. Her reasons are her own. Learning to be okay with not knowing the answer is sometimes more valuable than knowing it.
/r/seduction23/09/16 11:31 PM
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Hey sedditpost, Are you adequately conveying to her that the reason you're taking her number is to go on a date? Not a hangout. A date. How are you asking her out? Are you asking her when she's free? Or are you telling her when you're free and where you want to take her? Do you ask them if they're single? Do they know you're interested in them sexually, not platonically?
/r/seduction23/09/16 07:02 AM
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Excellent article. I really agree with #2 Reciprocity. It is the basis behind having her invest in you by asking questions herself and putting in work to engage you. As a small note, I would caution against overusing #1 Answer Questions Indirectly. It's fun to do in the beginning of the interaction because it creates mystery, but don't overuse it to the point where it can get tiresome for her to get you to reveal more about yourself. Use it in the beginning, then sporadically as your conversatio…
/r/seduction23/09/16 02:21 AM
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Great write-up. Just to add your point. When it came to cold-approaching women, I have never had a rejection come bite me in the ass. No matter how bad the rejection was, it didn't matter in the end. I just never saw them again.
/r/seduction21/09/16 01:31 AM
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That compliment is fine.
/r/seduction21/09/16 01:17 AM
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Hi breakingthehabits, If you're not okay with being friends with her, then tell her you have enough friends and reject her offer. DON'T accept friendship with the hopes of getting into a relationship with her further down the road. It doesn't happen.
/r/seduction21/09/16 01:15 AM
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Don't really know your situation, but it might be an issue of comfort. A woman can become attracted enough to sleep with you, but they'll actually feel insecure about being more involved with you after the fact because she was just caught up in the moment. You mentioned teasing and negging. These are all tools of attraction, but perhaps you should also try to establish more comfort by emotionally connecting.
/r/seduction20/09/16 04:12 PM
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Not 30s yet, but the amount of times I approached an attractive woman who turned out to be 30+ is surprisingly high. Also, it's quite socially acceptable for men in their 30s and 40s to date women in their 20s. That's something we can be happy about
/r/seduction20/09/16 08:41 AM
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Hey broomsticks11, I briefly looked at your post you submitted to askwomenadvice. While I wouldn't accuse you of being manipulative, the commenter is right in the sense that your best course of action is to be honest with your intentions. Ask yourself this question. What motivates you more: to date her or to study with her? In other words, would you still be motivated to study with her if you weren't interested in dating her? Ask her out on a date instead.
/r/seduction20/09/16 08:36 AM
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Pretty sure all of us have had experiences like this at some point. Don't be too hard on yourself. Be proud of yourself for giving it a shot, first and foremost. It seems like you're first major obstacle is being too nervous. I wouldn't worry about what you should be doing different. You can focus on that later. Your first goal is to start to become more comfortable by continuing to approach. Then more progress can be made.
/r/seduction19/09/16 01:36 AM
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Have you tried day game cold approaching? I never found success in nightclubs, mostly because my personality and energy was incompatible with that type of environment. After I started day gaming, I found success and satisfaction in a short period of time. If the "pretentiousness" of bars and clubs is something that turns you off, why continue to go to it?
/r/seduction17/09/16 10:49 PM
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Hey bigpotatos, It's ok to feel upset and hurt. It's never fun to have your feelings played by someone else. You seem to be pretty level-headed, all things considered. You felt bad about attacking him because you understood he did nothing wrong. I'm going to suggest a few steps you can take: Cut off all contact with her. She knew what she was doing. She enjoyed the flirting and attention from you, but the fact she didn't get sexual with you, despite going so far as to cuddle in bed with you, tel…
/r/seduction17/09/16 08:45 PM
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Hey crawleydown, Reading your conversation reminds me of my early day-game attempts. I feel you. It's difficult to create something out of nothing, so here's how you can take things next time: You: Hey! I had to come and meet you quickly. You're really pretty. Her: haha. Oh. Thanks. You: So, what are you up to? Her: Just on my way home. You: You know, you strike me as someone who's smart/creative/outgoing/(other non-physical attractive quality that you think she might be) You probably do somethi…
/r/seduction15/09/16 11:04 PM
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Hey pathe1, Do not think. I repeat. Do not think. Every second you spend thinking is a second you're not being in the present moment. A lot of PUA/seduction has structure in interactions, like attraction, qualification, comfort, etc. While these are helpful in providing you a mental map on how to drive the interaction, you shouldn't be overly concerned like "where in the interaction am in right now, comfort?" or "I'm in attraction now. What line should I use?" Instead, stay in the present moment…
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:31 AM
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Reading through this post, this is just weird. Just go out and approach a woman, even if you have no idea what the hell you're doing. You'll learn much more in that brief 1-3 minute interaction than whatever this exercise is.
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:20 AM
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Hey Koreanseduction, Making a girl laugh is good, just don't overdo it. Remember that you're not there to entertain her. You're there to explore each other and see if there's a connection.
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:15 AM
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Sure. First of all, you're not too late to socializing. You can always take steps to move forward from here on out. That's not just useful advice for seduction; it's useful advice for life. For many things in life, it's never too late to start making an improvement. Second, it's okay to feel anxious. Be at ease with it. Just like you, sometimes I get really nervous when I make the approach, even though I know that I've done it before, had great dates, and awesome sex. Don't fight the feeling. Do…
/r/seduction15/09/16 02:49 AM
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Hey tomcruisesdishwasher, I understand your fear, but in practice it is not as scary as it seems. I'm back in college after the summer break, and in the first week I approached a woman in the bookstore. She gave me her number, but never texted me back. Lo and behold, later that week I saw her walking the opposite way on campus. We saw each other, we smiled at each other, and that was it. As long as you're not going around campus hunting for girls, 'word' will not get around. It's natural to meet…
/r/seduction15/09/16 02:23 AM
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Hey koalaman97, Here's what I think was good: You are playful and exhibit a care-free attitude. That's good It's good that you tried to take the conversation off tinder by asking for snap Couple pointers: You spent a little too much time with the banter. By the time you were talking about the dogs, I was getting bored and wondering where this is going. She's going to be thinking the same thing too. Take the conversation off Tinder faster. About halfway through was a good time to ask for her numb…
/r/seduction14/09/16 07:12 AM
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I disagree. As a shy, introverted guy, I have good success with day-game. Confidence is not exclusive to out-going, extroverted guys. In day-game, the idea is that you're just going about your day and you happen to see a cutie that you want to say hi to. You don't need to be outgoing for that. If you have enough courage to approach, you've demonstrated a confidence that women rarely see.
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:59 AM
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Your text is making you appear over-eager and over-expecting. Try not to text so much, and keep your language direct, concise, and to the point. Leave your flirting and teasing for the date.
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:52 AM
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Hey johnny7boy, I know it's really tempting to stay in contact with a girl because you think you gotta "keep her interested", but that type of thinking is built on an underlying insecurity that you will lose her interest if you leave her alone. In my experience, once she agrees to meet with you, just stop texting her until the day before, and use that only to confirm.
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:49 AM
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Great advice. One thing I would add about Approach Anxiety is that a very effective method of dealing with it is to be at ease with how it makes you feel. If your're approaching that cutie and feeling nervous, just take 1 quick second to notice those feelings. The very act of noticing it helps you feel better about it because you are recognizing those feelings as something separate from you. *you should because video games are a waste of time. Read a book, work out,or something productive. But t…
/r/seduction13/09/16 07:12 AM
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Hey Isunova, I don't think you should attribute her rejection to your height. That's just your insecurities seeping through. You don't know that was the reason. Yet because you feel insecure about your height, you assumed that it was. Being taller does confer advantages, just like being handsome does. However if I've learned anything in my experiences, it's that women are far more likely to look past physical looks than men. Sure, some women use it as a basis to reject a man. Just like if a woma…
/r/seduction13/09/16 07:06 AM
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To illustrate TheXXL's point: just because a girl is having a lot of text conversations with you, doesn't necessarily mean you are getting any closer to dating her. She may simply see you as just a friend. I've been on dates where the date was 2 weeks away, and I didn't text her for the entire 2 weeks. I think some people have the erroneous belief that if you do not keep in constant contact, that she will forget about you. That's simply not the case. Her attraction for you is based on how she re…
/r/seduction13/09/16 02:20 AM
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I'm in the Iron Man camp. I try different things out, take out the little bits that work for me, and discard the rest. I'm left with stuff that highlights my strengths and showcases the best part of me.
/r/seduction13/09/16 01:44 AM
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Hey dat_ryry, Ask her to go on a date with you. Do so by stating it, not asking for it. Tell her you want to take her on a date on this day, doing this activity, and at this time. If she says she can't make it, then stop texting. Try again in a few days. If she offers an alternative time, go for it if it works for you. If she doesn't respond, you have your answer. I'm a big fan of minimal text game. It cuts to the chase, and it saves you a lot of time. Sometimes a girl will have a text conversat…
/r/seduction12/09/16 05:11 AM
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They're interested, and puzzled at your lack of interest. Asking if you are gay is their way of making the conversation more sexual. They're not really wondering if you're gay.
/r/seduction08/09/16 05:39 AM
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Best: Learn to process rejection healthily. It is impossible for a woman to reject all of you. She is only rejecting the 5 minutes that she knows about you. And these are 5 minutes where you are highly stressed from all the nerves, anxiety and adrenaline you are experiencing from making the approach. In a way, these 5 minutes are not the real you because you don't go through life highly stressed all the time. Worst:Any advice that forces you to think of women as the adversary. They are not your …
/r/seduction07/09/16 07:31 AM
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This is a really good question. The biggest regret that I've had on the seduction journey, especially during the beginning, is putting too much time into it. I think many of us have this regret to some degree. We spend a lot of time reading on seduction, thinking about it, changing our life around it. It has become a substantial part of our lives. It's easy to forget that we have a life outside of seduction. That not everything we do should be catered towards improving with women. At the end of …
/r/seduction06/09/16 07:16 PM
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Don't seek to understand. If you try to, you'll drive yourself crazy. You told her you missed her. That's good if that's what you really feel. Just let her express whatever she needs to express. Don't take those texts at face value.
/r/seduction06/09/16 02:35 AM
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Say "Let's go outside for some fresh air." That way, you can isolate her away from the main buzz of the party and chat with her 1on1 outside. From there, you can easily go "Let's go back to my place for a quick bite/drink. Then we'll come back." There's no need to say more than that. If you've been escalating physically, and keeping the conversation fun and sexual, then she knows what going back to your place means.
/r/seduction06/09/16 12:55 AM
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Hi Bubbleship, The best way is to ignore her, or at least ignore the negative things she says about you. When people are being rude like this, it's because they're looking to get a reaction from you. Maybe she wants your attention, or maybe she wants to you to get angry. Either way, she is seeking a reaction from you because she wants to influence you in some way. If you react to her negative comments, you essentially teach her that she can get your attention by being negative.
/r/seduction05/09/16 04:09 PM
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Sure. Ideally, first dates should be fun and short. Fun activities like bowling, walking in the park, billiards, mini golf, skating are just a few ideas. It's also a good idea to move through different locations/activities. It keeps the date fresh and exciting. It also makes your date memorable because you're doing multiple things together. You can go to a coffee shop, dessert shop, ice cream boutique, bar/pub. The basic plan is to pick 2-3 locations/activities and plan to spend about an hour in…
/r/seduction05/09/16 08:06 AM
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Hey throwawaynznew, She already agreed to go on a date with you next weekend. Ease up on the gas pedal. Don't text her anymore until the day before to confirm the date.
/r/seduction05/09/16 07:52 AM
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They don't care about it as much as you think they do
/r/seduction05/09/16 07:34 AM
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Hey sedditpost, I think 5 is a pretty small sample size. Maybe you're correct that bigger cities = bigger flakes. But I don't think one can arrive at that conclusion just yet. I think the bigger issue to address is your concern that "someone better comes along." I feel like you think that girls will only date you as a last resort or something. Now, I bet this is because they met a different guy before our date. Please don't think this way. You're coming up with these scenarios because of underly…
/r/seduction05/09/16 04:51 AM
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Just keep the first part. Don't say the rest. A date is not a contract. She isn't obligated to enter into a relationship with you just because she goes on a date with you. You don't either. Telling her you want to take her on a date communicates your intention to explore a sexual relationship with her. That's all you have to convey. Don't put the cart before the horse.
/r/seduction05/09/16 02:14 AM
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Hey memedealer22, I'll help answer the best I can: Tell her you want to ask her out on a date. It's best to be forthright with your intentions. "I want to take you out on a date. Let me get your number." "Hi, this is XYZ. It was nice meeting you today." Ask her if she's single. If yes, tell her you want to take her out on a date and get her number. That's very difficult to tell. My experience has been that there are times where girls can seem super into you, but never respond to your text. My ex…
/r/seduction05/09/16 01:59 AM
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Ok, I'll help explain. Look back at your responses again. Notice how what you say to ThrowawayPUA are all about what you want. You're trying to seek a particular answer/response from ThrowawayPUA. He says "listen", but you respond "this is not the answer I'm looking for. Tell me the answer I'm looking for." That's not listening. Similarly, when talking to women, your approach seems to be "tell ME what you like to talk about so I can know where to take this conversation." But that's not listening…
/r/seduction04/09/16 05:57 PM
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As for how to improve your game, you've made yourself too available, too interested, too invested, too fast. Like you said, it's a learning experience. Don't worry about the mistakes too much. Just remember for future reference, once you have a girls number, set up a date asap, and stop texting.
/r/seduction03/09/16 12:48 AM
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Hey 12521, Not gonna read the whole thing, but I skimmed it and from what I can tell, things are progressing fast into the friendzone. Ask her out for a date in your very next text. State a specific day, activity and time. Don't ask her when she's free and what she wants to do. Just state it. If she can't make it, tell her it's no problem and stop texting. Try again in a few days in the exact same way. If she can't make it, but offers an alternative day, go ahead and set that date. Once date is …
/r/seduction03/09/16 12:42 AM
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Damn, you really butchered that title! Models by Mark Manson (Nice overview of seduction/pua. It's not the Bible that many people consider it to be, but it helps in developing a balanced view about seduction/pua) Way of the Superior Man by David Deida (Helps with reframing your relationship with yourself, the world, and women) No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover (Useful if you suffer, or used to suffer, from being Mr. Nice Guy) She's Six Steps Away by Eric Disco (Beginner's book to helping you…
/r/seduction02/09/16 10:45 PM
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Gather yourself mentally, and continue on as if nothing happened. Don't expect perfection out of yourself. Slip-ups happen, but it doesn't have to ruin the interaction as long as you don't allow it to. Women aren't hawks that are just waiting for you to slip up so they can pounce on you. Hell, even women will slip up and say something stupid/rude that they didn't really intend. One time, I accidentally insulted a woman about her looks. She kind of just fell silent and looked away. My immediate t…
/r/seduction02/09/16 07:31 PM
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My advice is that you shouldn't be waiting a date or two in order to be physical. You should physically escalate on the first date. Don't be afraid to initiate contact with her throughout your first date. You can start by hugging her when you first meet. Then as your chatting, go ahead and touch her lightly on the upper arm/shoulder when something interesting or funny is said in the conversation. Then gradually escalate to her forearms, hands, knees, upper back, lower back, legs, hair. As the da…
/r/seduction02/09/16 04:44 AM
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I think a mistake men make is thinking that attraction means women start showing overt interest. Another mistake is putting too much focus on the wrong area. Just because women aren't tripping over themselves to get to you, doesn't mean that your efforts of becoming more physically attractive are not noticed. Perhaps before, you'd have just blended in the crowd. But now, she'd notice you. That's a difference, even though it might not manifest into a real difference if no action is taken. And tha…
/r/seduction01/09/16 02:52 PM
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It's good that you've identified a sticking point. I can offer you my advice: Don't be afraid of giving a compliment. Many of my approaches that turned to dates all started with me walking over and telling her that I think she's cute, or that I like her hair because it makes her look elegant, or that she makes that dress she's wearing look amazing. If you're going the indirect route, you can always deliver the compliment after you've started talking. Think about it from your perspective: if you'…
/r/seduction31/08/16 09:48 PM
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I will agree with you on this point. It doesn't matter whether you use direct or indirect approach. But what you should always demonstrate is direct intent. She should never have any doubt that you're talking to her because you're interested in her romantically/sexually. It doesn't mean that she believes you automatically like her. It just means that you're getting to know her for a specific purpose, not as friends.
/r/seduction31/08/16 08:36 PM
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Women get jealous, and will be upset when you flirt with other women because it doesn't make them feel as important as they initially thought they were to you. At the same time, seeing other women desire you will make her value you more, and will instill the competitive spirit in us that we all have. There's no need to react to it. There's no need to even draw attention to the situation at all. She gives you that look to see if you will supplicate, apologize, or otherwise indicate that she can h…
/r/seduction31/08/16 08:22 PM
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It seems like she just wants a FWB and not interested in a relationship at the moment (or with you). You can't change that. You can't go into this thinking you can change her mind about dating you. Don't do that to her but more importantly, don't do that to yourself. You have a choice to make. Either be okay with just being FWB with her, or look elsewhere for a woman who's ready to be in a relationship. If you want, you can do both. Continue seeing her, but approach other women at the same time.
/r/seduction31/08/16 06:48 PM
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Do NOT go for a handshake. This is a date, not a business deal. I've been in your situation before. She didn't hug me because she said we just met. On our date, I just went ahead and greeted her with a hug. By the end when I said goodbye, we were making out. Lesson here is to always physical escalate.
/r/seduction30/08/16 04:53 AM
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Hi 921ninja, I'm going to echo Evan's advice on this one. Don't fall into the trap of thinking you need to "be her friend first" in order to progress into something more. Friends and sexual lovers are different paths. Make sure you go down the path you want from the start. Make it clear to her that you're interested in her romantically. Not like "hey girl, I'm interested in you romantically." But tell her something about the way she looks that you appreciate. Tease her. Flirt with her. Touch her…
/r/seduction29/08/16 10:04 PM
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Hi harbeltpl, Let's get a few things out of the way: You're introverted-ness is not to blame. Plenty of introverted men have found success with women, especially in day-game. Your lack of social circle isn't to blame. You won't be able to social game effectively, but that's not the only way to meet women in college. Forget the direct v. indirect debate. No matter what approach you use, your intention should always be direct. If you're cold approaching girls, the only thing I would advise against…
/r/seduction29/08/16 05:49 AM
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Hi thisisntfunnyjunk, I still have times where approach anxiety gets the best of me. It's normal. The best way to overcome it is to take the plunge. Make the approach, and figure everything out later. Maybe you'll get brutally rejected. Maybe she'll smile and start talking to you. Maybe she'll be surprised and, just like you, don't know what to say next. In the end, you will figure out how to deal with it. Just remember, a rejection is not failure. It is progress.
/r/seduction29/08/16 05:39 AM
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Hi absolutelyq, I would carry on as if everything was normal. Wait 2-3 days, then text her and ask her out again. Just because she didn't have sex with you that night, doesn't mean she doesn't want to. Some women will draw clear boundaries like "no sex on the first date, no matter what."
/r/seduction29/08/16 05:34 AM
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Hi AgentNoir, It's just their way of rejecting you. Yes, it sucks. In an ideal scenario, they would tell you they're uninterested and would tell you, truthfully, the reasons. But that's not reality. It's easier for them to just ghost you rather than spend time, effort, and discomfort explaining it to you. It doesn't matter if that makes them rude. They don't care. People do what's easy. If a woman is being unresponsive, take it at face value and move on. You can try again in the future; maybe yo…
/r/seduction29/08/16 01:47 AM
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Hi don_twixote, This scenario will happen so often with girls that I've pretty much developed a system to deal with it. First, say "No problem." Just leave it at that. Don't say anything else that may communicate to her that you're disappointed or angry. Second, wait a few days and text her that you're going to this event, and she should come along with you. Tell her it's the last weekend of the event. Remember, your text invite should communicate the tone that you're going to this event anyway,…
/r/seduction27/08/16 06:00 PM
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I don't know your exact situation, so take what I say with a grain of salt: It seems like your texts are okay. Especially if you've got a conversation going, she seems to be responding positively. It's good that you drove for a date. There would've been nothing wrong to go hiking with her and her friend. It's similar to a man saying "There's a party I'm going to. Come join me." Not all sexual relationships need to start off one-on-one. You just need to communicate your interest for her as more t…
/r/seduction27/08/16 01:27 AM
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Ya, that's the idea. You have to look at it from her perspective: You're a random guy that one day approached her, expressed interest in her, and took her number. You piqued her interest, but at the same time you've only existed in her reality for literally 0.001% of the entire time she's been alive. So you start chatting her up, sending her a lot of texts, emojis and exclamation marks. Perhaps she'll think you'll be cool to have as a friend. However, what is more likely is that she'll wonder wh…
/r/seduction26/08/16 11:47 PM
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Hi ConfusedRunkie, Texting is an interesting topic. Some guys believe in text game. Other guys believe it should only be used for logistics purposes. Some fall in between. Here's my weigh-in: it's best to simplify your texting strategy as much as possible. Refrain from excessive emojis. The occasional smiley :) is fine. However, men and women interpret emojis differently. For men, when the girl they're texting is sending a lot of emojis, the man is thinking "This is awesome! She's really engaged…
/r/seduction26/08/16 10:40 PM
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Hi allowthisusername, I've thought about this nice guy v. jerk debate for a bit. Here's what I've come to notice: It's not a matter of being nice or a jerk. It's a matter of being submissive vs. dominant. Niceness, by itself, is not going to attract a woman. Niceness is simply part of being a decent human being. We like to surround ourselves with nice people. That's why "being nice" is a basic ingredient for creating friendships. No one "likes" a jerk. No one likes to surround themselves with pe…
/r/seduction26/08/16 08:37 PM
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Hi whoagurt, This is an interesting question, and I'll try to explain it as best I can. Basically, there are 2 parts to your interaction with a woman: Engage her, then let her chase you. A man must take action. Don't count on her to make the first move. She will not approach you for the same reason you will not approach her: fear of rejection. A great way to demonstrate your masculinity is to take action and be willing to bear the risks. Therefore, be the one to engage her. Once you engage her a…
/r/seduction25/08/16 10:26 PM
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Hey Standish83, If I meet any initial rejection, I always make one more effort to push past. It's not a magic spell, though. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes a girl just feels hesitant, for a myriad of reasons. A small push can help her take some action. Other times, a girl is set on saying no. In those cases, she'll say no a second time, so I'll just move on.
/r/seduction23/08/16 05:28 PM
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Hi johnnysway, It's not a revolutionary book by any means, but it is a very down-to-earth perspective on seduction/pickup. Perhaps the clearest thing I learned from this book is that there are a lot of things that are simply outside of your control, so don't try to control everything. Put your best foot forward, and the rest will play out in whatever way it will. That type of mentality has helped prevent me from worrying and over-analyzing every little thing.
/r/seduction21/08/16 03:14 AM
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Hey Hotboxedtardis, Thank you for sharing your story. It reminded me of an item I used when I first started out. I always had strong approach anxiety and it was difficult for me to start approaching women. Then I started going to a coffee shop and buying a small cup of coffee, or even just a free cup of water. Having the cup of coffee/water in my hand helped me relax because I wouldn't worry about what to do with my hands, and being able to sip on some coffee during an approach was such a simple…
/r/seduction21/08/16 03:08 AM
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Hey MysticalQuack, That's a really funny story, but also really relevant to my own experience. As a recovering "Mr. Nice Guy", I definitely spent a small period of time where I swung the pendulum to the other extreme and became a huge dick. Being less of a Mr. Nice Guy did help me be more successful with women, but no women wants to spend time with a total asshole either. In the end, I realized that my asshole-ness was simply just another defense mechanism I created to gain approval of women.
/r/seduction20/08/16 06:57 PM
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The idea is that attraction is not a choice. It's completely dependent on how you feel about that other person. What that means is if she is attracted to you, she can't choose to stop being attracted to you just because there are other guys that are more attractive. Attraction encompasses a lot of things, including your looks and your behaviour. However, just because you have average looks doesn't mean you can't be attractive. You will simply have to out more focus on developing your personality…
/r/seduction18/08/16 05:54 AM
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Hey delux_bg, It's interesting that you posed this question. For some reason, we as men have allowed ourselves to believe that in order to date women, we must learn this completely complex set of rules, behaviours and codes. But the truth is, men have dated women before PUA/seduction was even a thing. And men can continue to date women even without being involved with it. I believe that pua/seduction is meant to give some guidance to men about dating, relationships, and self-improvement. It's ok…
/r/seduction16/08/16 08:08 PM
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Hi kinpsychosis, Good first post. You reminded me of what it was like when I first started doing direct approaches. I was so afraid of making the approach because I wanted everything to work out perfectly, and I didn't want to mess things up. So I made a bunch of excuses for not approaching: "oh she seems busy"; "she's probably not my type"; "there are other people around" Then one day, I decided to switch my way of thinking: Get rejected once today. Then I went up to this really attractive girl…
/r/seduction16/08/16 07:58 PM
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Hi bozongle, I have been in this situation before. I used to date someone who now talks shit about me, sometimes with passive aggressive comments when we are in the same social event. Here is my advice: ignore her. I do not agree with some other comments to confront her, or talk shit back at her. There were many times where I imagined a great comeback to say. However, I found the best way to act is to be unfazed, even if it bothers you on the inside. Don't stoop down to her level to exchange wor…
/r/seduction16/08/16 05:31 PM
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Hi Deathtanzmantisk, That's OK. Direct approach is my favourite approach anyway. It bypasses your inner guilt because you're not hiding your intentions at all.
/r/seduction16/08/16 05:17 PM
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Hi Marcobronx, What an amazing read. I reckon a lot of men on this sub, myself included, don't want to do pickup forever. In fact, I know I don't. I got into this because I wanted to have influence over the type of women that I meet and date. I have no true desire to fuck as many women as possible. In the end, I value connection more than number of sex partners. Dating starts with a little bit of gamesmanship, but relationships cannot survive on it. Eventually, the defense mechanisms we put up h…
/r/seduction16/08/16 05:13 PM
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The linked post was really good, and it describes perfectly what is needed for successful night game. I'm a much more relaxed, mellow guy. My game would not survive the night club. So, I carved myself a comfortable spot doing day game. Find the style that works for you. It's okay to do one and not the other.
/r/seduction16/08/16 01:45 AM
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Hi famineofcrows, This is a good question. You should tease her if she tells you something that you genuinely find amusing. The "genuine" part is key because teasing should be fun and spontaneous, not formulaic. You naturally get better with teasing when you become more relaxed around women, you're not afraid of stating your opinion to the woman, and you're not afraid of potentially offending her. Here are a couple of examples: A woman I approached was wearing these shiny shoes. It was sunny out…
/r/seduction15/08/16 07:42 PM
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Hi chaosflux91, My advise is to keep your social media profile and your dating life separate. This is not about whether other girls will see it and not go out with you. This is about the personal image you project about yourself to your social circle and to the world. Unless you plan on becoming a professional PUA that makes a living doing this stuff, you have to be mindful of the type of reputation that it's going to create. In my point of view, there is nothing to be gained by displaying on so…
/r/seduction15/08/16 07:23 PM
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Hi ultimatewpierdol, It will get better with practice and experience. I know that when I first started and experienced rejection (at various stages), sometimes it would negatively affect my day. Your self-esteem will naturally be developed over time when you make the decision to keep going despite being rejected.
/r/seduction13/08/16 06:34 PM
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I will second this. Too much theory will unnecessary burden you. It's best to read a little on tips/advice. Focus on doing just that in your next sets. Then read a little more, and practice that. That way, the theory slowly gets ingrained into habit. If you try to theory too much, you will end up getting distracted in a set and not be in the present moment
/r/seduction13/08/16 06:30 PM
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I'm going to second this advice. Sometimes, a lot of our struggles can be overcome by simply stepping back and taking a break if we have to. The more frustrated and upset you get, the more it's going to negatively affect your mood and the worst your performance will be. Take a breather. Spend the next week focusing on other things in your life. Then come back to it.
/r/seduction13/08/16 07:57 AM
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Hi coconotocaurious85, I think there's a good message embedded in your post. It's absolutely ok to have a bad night. Not everything is under your control, so just roll with he punches. As for getting rusty, I think it's natural. Sometimes it's ok to just take a break if you like where you're at. If you end up sarging again, it's completely normal to be rusty and needing a few more sets to get back up to speed. The main takeaway should be: it's ok to take a break, and don't be too hard on yoursel…
/r/seduction13/08/16 07:51 AM
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Hi friendzonefighter, Your name is fitting, because the advice that you've listed from women tend to lead straight to the friendzone. I understand why women will give this type of advice. It puts them in the driver's seat where they get to make the decisions. Who wouldn't want that? However, the paradox is that once women feel like they have decision-making power over you, they will start losing attraction. Women want to feel like their man is the leader, not one to be controlled. Least of all b…
/r/seduction13/08/16 12:02 AM
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Sure. Be comfortable with physical escalation. It's one of the most important aspects of flirting. Don't be afraid to punctuate your conversations with physical contact if something interesting or funny is said. Always seek to build up the intimacy level of the contact. Be comfortable with teasing. Feel free to poke fun at things about her, such as her hobbies and interests. As long as you wear a smile when you tease her, you'll always communicate that you're doing it in good fun. Turn the chase…
/r/seduction12/08/16 11:50 PM
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There may be racial preferences (which is unavoidable), but it's not as big of an obstacle as you think. I am also Asian, slightly under average height, and a little skinny. Last week I was on a date with a Caucasian. My previous relationship was with a Caucasian. My date next week is with an Asian. I don't think you should worry too much about the race issue.
/r/seduction12/08/16 08:56 PM
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I understand your feelings towards the situation. All men will encounter something similar. I still hold to my original advice that you're overthinking it. Make the move, and even if you get declined, your world and your relationship with your sister will not end.
/r/seduction12/08/16 08:52 PM
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Perhaps you're being a little too greedy to start. Don't be afraid to start small and work towards something bigger. Attracting women into your life is not like going to a supermarket and grabbing items to fill your cart. You slowly build a network over time.
/r/seduction12/08/16 08:48 PM
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Hi 3heeringz, You are over-thinking things and it's messing with your head. Make a move. Ask her to go on a date with you. If she declines, move on. Don't spend anymore time trying to figure out if she likes you. Take action, find out for yourself, and move on if she doesn't feel the same. Hope this helps.
/r/seduction12/08/16 07:40 AM
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Hi equesbritainniae, This is a pretty broad question, with no easy answer. If you want multiple girls desiring you, then you'll need to approach multiple girls. If you're waiting for girls to flock to you, you'll be waiting for a long time. If you don't initiate, why would they? You'll naturally start to attract the attention of more women when you've approached more women. The experience and confidence you build will naturally shine through your day-to-day life. Before you get there, however, y…
/r/seduction12/08/16 01:48 AM
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Hi Dcusi753, Congrats on getting her number. Here's my opinion: Strike while the iron's hot. Ask to go on a date before Sunday. If she can't make it, it wouldn't hurt to try mid September. But by then, there's always the risk the lead will be "cold". That's just life, though. Hope that helps.
/r/seduction12/08/16 01:44 AM
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Hi thesecretfootballer, You don't need to be perfect to enjoy success with women. I repeat. You don't need to be perfect to enjoy success with women You don't need the perfect approach. You don't need the perfect house and job. You don't need the perfect hobbies. And you don't need the perfect teeth. You are enough, and making the approach is enough. Whatever happens afterwards, happens.
/r/seduction11/08/16 07:19 PM
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Good article. I've always been a firm believer that women don't put men in the friendzone; men put themselves there. It's always good to recognize the behaviours you are exhibiting that put you there. As a general advice, be bold, courageous, and take action. It's better to be too aggressive than too passive. It's better to make a mistake than to be too afraid to make a mistake. It's better to be rejected than to wonder "what if".
/r/seduction11/08/16 07:15 PM
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Hi Bulk_king11, Very well written. You share a lot of similarities on how I view confidence. I especially liked the following: It is also having the ability (or believing you have the ability) to achieve or handle any situation that is thrown at you. You may not handle it perfect but you know you will get through it and not only be okay with making mistakes but learning and growing from them. This is so key. A lot about developing confidence is derived from the notion that you will not always kn…
/r/seduction11/08/16 05:44 PM
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Hi duckyquack1, In my experience, do not burden yourself with concepts like leagues. I've dated women who were very attractive. I've also been blown out by less attractive women. I've found no real correlation. If a woman is attracted to you, she'll be attracted to you. She's not going to measure your looks against others or against her own, just to see if you're good enough.
/r/seduction11/08/16 05:21 PM
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Hi get_hype_4_lyfe, Seduction/pua is funny in that sometimes it requires patience in areas that count, and sometimes it requires boldness and action. Definitely don't lose your desire to want results. This will give you the necessary drive to push your limits and go for what you want. Areas in which patience are key are: text responses, degree of interest, and availability. Don't text too much and too often. In the beginning, text messaging should always be used for logistics only. It's importan…
/r/seduction11/08/16 05:15 PM
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Hi MysticalQuack, I am glad you wrote this post. Many of my best learning experiences came at moments of failure. Then, I made adjustments and improved my game. Girls were giving me numbers, but not responding to any of my texts. I learned that I was giving off too much of a platonic vibe. I adjusted by starting to communicate interest directly and early in my future approaches. Girls were losing interest in me. I learned that I wasn't escalating physically. I adjusted by being more bold in esta…
/r/seduction11/08/16 08:54 AM
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Hi Timstertimster2, Don't bother with looking for interest. Just make the approach and go for what you want.
/r/seduction11/08/16 08:38 AM
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Hi airide101, Yes, it is okay to start indirect. If it helps you approach, then do it. Worry about the quality of the approach later. Another great reason why you should first try indirect is because you'll soon realize that there is something missing that can help you achieve better results. That missing thing is going direct. Therefore, you will intuitively understand for yourself that the direct approach is often the more desirable approach in most given situations.
/r/seduction11/08/16 08:35 AM
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Hi ortsnom, Only do this if you want to do this. Personally, I do this because I came out of a bad relationship and I wanted to learn how to approach women so that I can influence my love life without having to wait for the next woman to enter into my life. I also want more experience with women, and feeling what it truly means to have options rather than settling with the first woman to show me interest. In the beginning of getting into seduction/pua, it's easy to allow the whole thing to take …
/r/seduction11/08/16 08:32 AM
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Hi Gingerbeard91, Good job, man. It's the first step. I remember my first approach, and how different things are now. You have a lot to look forward to. Keep it up
/r/seduction11/08/16 08:21 AM
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Hi oldfashionclassic, I will give you my opinion: one can never, ever get over approach anxiety once and for all. It will always be there. The most consistent thing is action. Take action, regardless of how you feel. If you feel like shit, approach. If you feel confident, approach. If you feel plain, approach. Don't wait for you to feel it before you take action, or else you will always be at the mercy of your own emotions. Just take action, and worry about the quality of the approach later. As …
/r/seduction11/08/16 07:56 AM
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Hi cookiemonsterpua, Abundance mentality. You will develop this over time if you always seek to approach women, get more numbers, get more dates, and have more sex with different women. It's always easy to start out crushing over the first few women you start dating. You can minimize the effects by keeping your options open.
/r/seduction11/08/16 07:38 AM
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Hi Sinenominibus, Here are a few places that I have had success with. Feel free to add to my list: coffee shops parks beaches bookstores shopping malls Also, if you are comfortable approaching women walking on the street, then your possibilities have just expanded exponentially.
/r/seduction11/08/16 07:29 AM
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Hi ssstar, I've also read Manson's book and, coupled with other resources, developed a bit of a framework for day-game direct approaches. I am open to criticism, but this helped me get 2 dates last week. 1. Make a direct approach. Approach her, tell her that you think she's cute and that you wanted to come talk to her. Be comfortable enough to wait for her response (usually she smiles, giggles, says thank you). If she's not interested, busy, or has a boyfriend, usually she tells you that now. If…
/r/seduction11/08/16 07:17 AM
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Hi ayjak, The only real way to find out is to do it and experience it first-hand. Just remember, everyone starts somewhere. Everyone had to make their first approach, their first statement of interest, their first date, their first kiss, their first sexual intercourse. At any point, there could've been rejection. It's scary, and you can't stop yourself from feeling it. The fear will never go away completely (it might diminish in level). So the only way to do it is to just commit. Everyone who's …
/r/seduction11/08/16 06:44 AM
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Hi jsrd4, Indicators of disinterest are usually easy to spot if you know the benchmark to measure it up against: If she's interested, she'll make the effort. This applies to all aspects, whether it be setting up dates, to responding to texts. If she's not making an effort to work with you to find a time for a date, or to respond to your texts in a timely and sufficient manner, or to engage you in conversation, then you can safely attribute those to disinterest. No matter how busy a woman is, if …
/r/seduction11/08/16 06:34 AM
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Hi throwaway, Gathering from your post and comments, you're day-gaming and going direct approach. I also do the same thing, so I will give you some of my opinions: 1. Smile and establish physical contact when you first approach. It's important to smile in day-game direct approach because it's a very aggressive approach, so it's good to counter-balance with a smile to show that you are not a threat. Physical contact can be established through touching her on her shoulder to get her attention, and…
/r/seduction11/08/16 06:20 AM
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