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A lot of guys here are saying "just experience it first for free before paying." I put that advice in the same category as "just be yourself and you'll get girls." If only it were that easy. Ideally, you'd lose it without paying, but if you have that much of a hang up over your virginity, then just get an escort. Get a well reviewed one, by doing your research on review sites and forums. That should take care of your legal and health concerns. As others have said, sex is pretty underwhelming, bu…
/r/askTRP30/08/15 04:30 PM
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We going to get sentimental about first times? I lost mine to a slutty stripper and it took her telling me she had a clit piercing to finally make a move. I kept losing my boner and didn't fuck to completion. edit: oh and I didn't use a condom because I was that desperate. Most guys here saying don't fuck an escort, have never fucked an escort and really can't proper insight. They're not all crackheads that look beat as shit, but I've only dealt with $300+, hot ones.
/r/askTRP30/08/15 02:15 PM
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Keep doing option B. Cut first, then bulk at a reasonable rate. Cut to 135, or ab definition, or whatever you feel. You'll look like shit either way, but it's better to have a lean face and no gut, than it is to be fat. Say you bulk, and you get to 25%+, you'll look sloppy as shit unless you have a super wide back - which you won't. Then you have to lose twice the body fat, so it takes twice as long, feeling like shit through the process because of how you look. Besides, it only take another 2-3…
/r/askTRP23/08/15 04:28 PM
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Everyone commenting on her looks need to take into account its not 35-45 year old, well off, in shape guy that is paying her. It is some doughy, bald guy or 60yo. And it only takes 500 to make up for the discrepancies in their SMVs.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/15 03:48 AM
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If he is having sensitivity issues, Viagra or cialis aren't going to help.
/r/askTRP15/08/15 07:41 PM
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Lots of hair accumulating in the shower drain is an early sign.
/r/askTRP10/08/15 03:30 AM
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Free labor isn't as enticing as you think it is. You still have to be trained and there is no guarantee you're going to stick around. Better off just hiring someone with the right qualifications or training from within. And since they're officially employed, they can be held accountable. It's just not worth the hassle.
/r/askTRP09/08/15 10:06 PM
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You're not going to be hired as a bartender straight away, especially with no experience. You're going to have to work your way up to bartender. Either you're going to start as a bar back, kitchen worker, server, or a "bouncer." I say "bouncer" because it seems to be a catchall for doing a lot of grunt work. Eventually an opening will come up and maybe you will be in the running.
/r/askTRP09/08/15 09:31 PM
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Go for it and do your research. Just do it so you can see how uneventful sex really is.
/r/askTRP05/08/15 03:49 PM
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You dated a ho. Your mistake was getting too invested initially. Live and learn. Give yourself some credit that you didn't give her another kid. In the mean time, focus on yourself. Try to date. The fastest way of getting over a girl is under another.
/r/askTRP03/08/15 05:55 AM
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That video is bullshit. Nothing about that guy is congruent with someone who has the right to give that advice. His instagram is lame, he isn't particularly good looking, the videos that have girls, which are rare, they are average looking, and there is no indication that he is successful with women. He makes his money making youtube videos, and he probably pulled the "RoE" out of his ass just prior to the video. This is real life. Fact is, feelings are messy. Your best friend will hate you. He …
/r/askTRP03/08/15 05:25 AM
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The guys I knew that fucked the most girls had drugs (weed, mdma, coke) and were big in the party/bar/rave scenes. Think of an environment were girls are trying to get fucked up, so not a yoga class. They also had little to no standards. One group of guys all lived together and threw parties almost ever night. Their tactic was to control how many dudes were at the party and control the alcohol. They get laid all the damn time. And those guys were far from Chad Thundercock. Something that hardly …
/r/askTRP22/07/15 03:55 AM
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/r/resumes/ will lead you in the right direction.
/r/askTRP19/07/15 12:19 PM
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Restaurants. Bullshit with the guys in the back, plenty of opportunities to interact with hot servers.
/r/askTRP25/06/15 01:04 AM
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Dan Bilzerian (google him if you don't know who he is), who can pay for a the pussy he wants says the same thing. You're not going to find another environment of hot girls 18-21 who will just give it away.
/r/askTRP25/06/15 12:52 AM
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Eh, don't over think it which why I said focus in your own pleasure. At least one person gets satisfied, right? You gain sexual confidence with experience, but don't put all that pressure on yourself if you're still a newb. Besides, I can't see a hooker being a great reference experience and they're going to say you're the best ever and fake an orgasm. Something to keep in mind is that if a girl likes you, they'll excuse that you're a bad fuck (which you can change). And really, they won't know …
/r/askTRP25/06/15 12:37 AM
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Fuck an escort just so you can see how uneventful sex really is and also where the vagina is. Sex is incredibly intuitive and you really don't need practice. Just focus on your own pleasure.
/r/askTRP25/06/15 12:11 AM
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Can't beat a witty/funny guy at his own game, but who cares. In generally I would of just dismissed it and then ignored him. He doesn't sound like a buddy if this goes beyond friendly hazing and it's humiliating you.
/r/askTRP18/06/15 07:47 PM
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There can't be a middle ground between punching someone or shooting them? Why stop at shooting or stabbing someone? Let's burn down their house with their family in it. End their bloodline. Yeah, the best defense is avoiding bad situations, but outside of a life threatening situation i'm not going to play the wimp card. Knowing how to fight gives you real confidence and it carries over into other parts of your life. It actually mellows you out, and you're less aggressive. People who are trained …
/r/TheRedPill15/06/15 03:29 AM
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It was a 3 year relationship. That's a lot of investment and there is a lot of baggage. I think it's ridiculous to suggest he feign feelings of happiness because his "bro" got it in. I think it shows a lack of self-respect if he lets it slide.
/r/askTRP01/06/15 12:48 AM
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Well, she is really tall. You got rejected by someone who is in the 95th percentile for female height. I wouldn't think too much into this, because she's probably a lot more insecure about her height than you are about yours. I know someone else already mention these stats matter more on the internet than in person. It doesn't help that most people add an extra inch or two to their heights (women included), but you're tall enough for height not to be an issue in 90% of cases. At least you know i…
/r/askTRP01/06/15 12:32 AM
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I don't think you need advice on this. If she flakes, she flakes, but don't ignore her in the interim. Definitely make a move next time you see her.
/r/askTRP22/05/15 12:08 AM
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You're way too abstract for me. I'm more of a if don't like something then fix it.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/15 04:26 PM
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Most of us are in /r/theredpill because we have a chip on our shoulders in one form or another. If you learn how to fight and are tested in a proper environment (gyms), then you're less likely to want to prove yourself elsewhere. The confidence that you get from your skills will make you less likely to react in petty situations. There is something to be said about walking away from a confrontation without the lingering thought in your head that you're just a little bitch because you know you cou…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/15 03:55 PM
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Everyone here is thinking way to much into this. Don't be ugly. Hit on drunk girls in bars. Escalate. Alcohol was probably the biggest factor in this story. She got progressively drunker which allowed for the make out. All you need to know about Chad was he was 20 and in a club so he was definitely shit faced. What you saw as initiative was probably the single-mindedness of a drunk who shut off his higher order thinking.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/15 01:32 AM
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I'm 29, in a college town, and I interact with a lot of college-aged girls. I don't think most guys should waste their time hitting on girls 18-21. Unless they're looking for a sugar daddy, they're perfectly content with Chad and Dean throwing their dicks at them. It does open up when they can start going to bars, but most of them are going to want to date/hook up within a 5 year range.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/15 02:35 PM
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It's not even looking "good", it's looking average. The more average and symmetrical your features are, the more attractive people will find you. And from an evolutionary perspective, someone who looks better will not likely had a poor upbringing brought on by low resources (nutrition) or disease.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/15 02:59 PM
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If they're crawling, they're in the right position anyways.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 01:02 AM
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I imagine the IDF employs Krav Maga effectively, but the access anyone else is going to have is mostly pomp (along with the vast majority of traditional martial arts). Martial Arts like Muay thai, boxing, and bjj are based around competition and place heavy emphasis in sparring during training. Your skills get tested on a daily basis in a live scenario. I imagine the Krav Maga guy was not.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 04:39 AM
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No dude, someone who has trained in a worthwhile martial art is going to have a clear advantage over an untrained person. If you don't see it, then you probably didn't get a whole lot from your studies. Someone coming at you at "full force" with flailing limbs is actually what you want to to happen and if you're in the gym drilling and sparring then you're going to be able to react.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 04:25 PM
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No. Throwing up is beta. You should of finished, kept it down, then ordered seconds.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 01:26 PM
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It seems like you know the issue is logistics. If you can make out with a girl, then you an certainly get more, excluding when they're sloppy drunk.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 06:05 AM
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Even if it isn't in our nature, girls still feel guilt and shame for whoring it up. If they didn't, they'd just bang a bunch of dudes and go about their day without any need to justify it. What really happens is they either lie/hide it or they do the opposite and "own it."
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 03:59 AM
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You don't need to know the real answer. Are 28 partners going to make you feel better off than 34? Also, and you're doing this right now, pay attention to factors that would indicate a higher partner count. I've never brought up the subject because I don't need it spelled out for me and it's a turn off whenever girls recount their sexual exploits.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/14 09:20 PM
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I know him pretty well. He is obsessed with a girl I know, and has her number. I really don't ask for details, but he tells me things. He skirts the line of charming and sleazy, with a little more bent on sleazy. He will ask a girl to bartend a private party and that it pays well, regardless if they even know how to bartend. It helps that he wears a giant diamond and everyone knows he is rich. He does this shit in front of his wife all the time. It pisses her off, but I guess there is an arrange…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 08:41 PM
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Well, it is highly illegal here so that reflects in the prices. And we are far away from eastern europe. And these girls aren't the trafficated sex slaves.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 05:10 PM
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This is one of my upcoming goals, though I'd argue with your term usage. Yeah, you can argue that it is a form of prostitution, but different shades on the same scale. It's more of a sugar daddy/baby type situation, which oddly enough is perfectly legal and way more socially acceptable. I never knew how prevalent this was until recently. It doesn't even have to be a substantial amount with all her needs met. Girls are supplementing their retail/waitress jobs by "hanging out" with dudes with cash…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 11:25 AM
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Yeah it's illegal. A lot of guys are suggesting craigslist or backpage, but they're riskier and most of the hottest girls don't even advertise there. I suggest the screening service like preferred411. You are going to have to give up personal info to see a girl, they're not trying to get killed or arrested and neither are you. There are also review sites and a lot girls have pictures or websites. Make sure you vet the girls too. You get what you pay for. Older girls, run-of-the-mill girls, or ho…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 11:04 AM
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Spoken like someone who has never banged an escort before. They are professionals in more ways than just having a wet hole. They will make you feel desired, wanted, and enthusiastically be willing to fulfill all your needs. It's their job, and some are really good at it - really good. You will get what you pay for. A premium, model type will run you 400-500/hour. If you pay more it's either a porn star or you're into some really freak shit. These girls do not exist in your social circle, unless …
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 09:13 PM
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This is such a non-issue in my eyes, regardless of the video being agenda driven and manufactured. Treat legitimate sexual harassment cases seriously, but just ignore catcalls. Do we have to turn every petty inconvenience into a movement? The video did backfire somewhat when it highlighted a bunch of black guys as the cat callers. My friend recently moved into a low income housing area. First time I went up to check his place out, I saw teenage girls twerking in the middle of the street. It's ju…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 07:07 PM
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This subreddit is full of awkward guys who don't put themselves out there, and remain virgins.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 11:16 PM
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Make sure you're not just being complacent. It's work. You're going to have to put yourself out there.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 06:05 PM
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Height is relative anyways, no girl is walking out there with measuring tape. I am solid/honest 5'9". The last girl I spoke with about my height put me at 5'11" because she thought she was 5'9" when she was about 5'7". I've seen a girl get measured for her drivers license in heels, and they recorded the number as her height - she really thought that was her height. People, let a lone girls, delude themselves with their height. A guy will truly believe he is 6ft tall, even though he really is 5'1…
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 08:55 PM
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Daily. I live near a mediocre state school.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 09:24 PM
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Yoga, it should compliment your BJJ. You'll also find health minded women.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 06:05 PM
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It is probably more like 20m for actual squats. I do a light barbell complex as a dynamic warm up, then a few warm up sets of with squats. I rest about two minutes between each set. Once I am done with warm up + squats a half hour has passed. Squats are soul crushing though and the thought of doing 5x5 3x/week beat me mentally. I do probably need to reload though.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 08:07 PM
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Maybe his life doesn't revolve around you? Just ask him when his next party is.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 06:27 PM
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I am a jason blaha fan, but his program would take 2-3 hours per session, and not the 90m he says it does. 5x5 heavy squats 3x/week... fuck that! It takes me half an hour just to do 3x5.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 06:23 PM
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You don't need 8% bf, and it's extremely hard to get and you'll feel like shit energy-wise. Besides, most peoples' 8-10% bf are more like 12-14% bf. I was 13-14% bf will fairly defined abs. Unless you're severely undersized, my opinion is to cut until you have some ab definition, then slowly add on mass. If you're leaner, you'll look better and if you look better, you'll feel better (more confidence).
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 05:58 PM
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The bodyweight vs weights subject always comes up. I just think people are too shy/awkward to just get a gym membership with access to a rack, bench, and barbell set. You can't carry loads or scale the same way. It's just more convenient and effective. It's hamstering to think otherwise. Squats and dead lifts are the standard when it comes to testing functional strength, and those can't be performed with soley body weight exercises (one legged pistol squats aren't dem).
/r/TheRedPill09/09/14 07:31 PM
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That's too general. Of course we all feel the need for human contact, and yes there is a range, but sex is primary. These guys really want steak, but are asking for salad. It's as if they are paying to be friend zoned when they would really rather be having sex with the girl.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 06:57 AM
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I'm sure she gets use to it, but she's trying to make this not about sex when it totally is. Both parties are lying to themselves if they think otherwise. Let's see if her customers are willing to cuddle with dudes.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 02:12 AM
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More like she is a professional blue baller. I wonder how many guys left feeling cheated because there was no happy ending. Bunch of sad guys out there are better off buying a hooker. I wonder in her 40 hour certification process she'll cover boners popping up in this non-sexual service.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 11:17 PM
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It is hard to see the benefit of doing this if you don't have aspergers. Want to practice "dominance?". Join a bjj academy where you are encouraged to dominant another person in a non-awkward way. I find it hard to believe anyone does this though..
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 07:28 PM
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Sounds like you use humor too much as supplicating behavior, because there is nothing wrong with being funny. Don't worry so much about being liked and see how that affects your mindset, because you don't need to be.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 07:59 PM
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Dude, either she has forgiven you or she hasn't. There is no getting even in this. If her forgiveness was insincere, then do you think something like this was inevitable?
/r/TheRedPill23/06/14 01:59 AM
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Can't offer any specifics, but don't lie to yourself. Guy's hamster too. It's one thing to say I handle this shit "red pill style," when in actuality you're just protecting your ego and you're really are just acting like a bitch. I've been dumped, and lied to myself thinking it was mutual. Relationships ending aren't mutual. Even if you have the discipline to break it off (not suggesting you do), she cheated. Who really ended that relationship? Also, is she an alcoholic? Can she control her drin…
/r/TheRedPill23/06/14 01:35 AM
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If I had my way, I’d never work. I’d just stay home all day, watch Scarface 50 times, eat a turkey sandwich, and have sex all fucking day. Then I’d dress up like a clown, and surprise kids at schools. Then I’d take a dump in the back of a movie theater, and just wait until somebody sat in it. Hear it squish. That’s funny to me. Then I’d paint, and read, and play violin. I’d climb the mountains, and sing the songs that I like to sing. But I don’t got that kinda time.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 05:21 AM
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I know a girl. She recounted this one time she had drunken regret sex was raped. She took her friends to a bar and they all got extremely drunk. She danced on the bar with her top off (bra still on), and made out with one of her guy friends all night. She ended up fucking him (sort of). At some point during the sex, she "came to", jumped off, and went to sleep. Even though she pulled out the condom, she said she was raped. She wasn't even wet. She kept reiterating that the guy wasn't as good loo…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 09:59 AM
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keto diets are nothing special in terms of losing weight. Fat/obese people just eat more than average/fitter people. It's cool if you found weight loss success on keto diets, but it's an issue of calories in vs calories out. And judging from self-reported testimonials in this thread, you guys could of made any sensible changes to your diets and achieved results. Adhering to keto is just going to make you develop an eating disorder because you're going to think carbs are evil.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/14 09:57 AM
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Maybe not all of "pua" focuses on the club/bar scene, but a lot of what can be contributed to game can be more accurately attributed to someone being assertive enough when a girl is just drunk and slutty.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/14 06:42 AM
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She doesn't make the decision to go for the "nice guy." The decision will be made for her when she gets old.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/14 04:57 AM
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Mad Men is created, and primarily written by Matthew Weiner. He also wrote for the Sappranos. He is the show runner and Don is his creation. All the people in that show is broken in some sense. It's a drama.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/14 04:17 AM
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Either the guy is super inappropriate and she just is too scared to tell him to stop or this is just their dynamic. Have you ever behaved like this with your co-workers? If so, it's probably a really flirtatious relationship and you're one drunken night from screwing. If not, it's because no one was led on and you follow professional decorum.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 03:03 AM
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I have an uncle who started off as a nurse. He then learned all he could about the medical equipment he used and leverage it into a position as a salesman. He rakes it in.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 01:00 AM
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Park the lambo outside of a club/bar around 1:00am and just post up.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 03:05 AM
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Well, it's not like there was an agenda in that video - at all.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 02:39 AM
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This. No witty pick up line is going to make a girl in a random approach suddenly attracted to you. Additionally, if she's not feeling it you need to move on.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/13 05:01 AM
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It's because Rhonda Rousey is a star. Dana White has even stated that Rhonda Rousey IS women's MMA.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/13 05:15 AM
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I never got this. Just because it happens, not only do you have to pretend you're okay with it but you should high five them? This is not some random lay, it's a ltr. I just view this reaction as obvious ego-protection and makes you look and feel like a bitch.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/13 06:20 PM
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Good luck with that. My experience is there is just too much baggage to downgrade (upgrade?) A ltr into a fb. Just dump her and move on. Also, is it typical of sluts to run through your friends as a way of getting back at you or wanting your attention? I wasn't even into this one girl and she did that, all the while trying to hang out. I chalked it up to her just being a slut, but given the amount of dicks she gets thrown at her it makes me wonder why she had to invade my social circle.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/13 06:08 PM
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This and do some sort of combat training. If you are insecure about your physical prowess do something about it.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/13 09:59 PM
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Let us know how it works acting like a super creep at work. Clinton may have "won" but at massive cost. While dealing with the bullshit scandal, it certainly affected his ability to run the country. He was less effective for it, and it's all over some pudgy, average girl. He could of just gotten a hot hooker.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/13 04:29 PM
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I think what it comes down to is avoid being a door mat, or find yourself stuck in some sick co-dependent situation in ANY relationship. Define your personal standards and avoid breaking them to maintain your self-respect.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/13 06:55 PM
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The guy just spent 3 years in jail for knifing a teen, and is definitely someone you shouldn't be aggravating for petty shit. Fights are not worth it for a lot of reasons, but especially not for some loud, drunk bitch stirring shit. You can see how when she gets hit reality immediately sets in for her as she fades away.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/13 06:42 PM
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5 hours of sex is just gross and tiring. Who even has the time for that shit?
/r/TheRedPill22/10/13 07:14 PM
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I second this. All the physical training I do is probably inclusive with how I carry myself. Knowing I look good in a tshirt is one thing, but knowing its not just for vanity and I can handle myself makes me fundamentally more confident. There is less insecurity and no need for posturing. On the flip side, knowing how easy it is for another human being to fuck you up gives you a healthy amount of respect.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/13 01:59 PM
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You have to be 28+ to be a former stripper. Any girl under that only takes breaks when they realize an actual job or school requires consistent work. When you're 28+, either your looks have gone to shit with how hard you lived your life or you realize that you're 28+ and have no life skills beyond being slutty. small list of some of the ones I know: 1) 33yo has 2-3 kids from one dad. She is now a lesbian with a 24yo girl provider. She plans on joining the military and becoming an officer (lol) 2…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/13 02:52 PM
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I think we all understand beer goggles and just settling for anyone, but 300lbs for an average height girl is really fucking fat - it's still fat for a tall guy.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 03:43 AM
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More than that - she says she slept around her entire 20s. She was fat while hitting up "attractive" guys. I wonder how consistently attractive these guys are that they'd fuck a fat chick, then a former fat chick with loose skin. I guess it's all relative though. If you're a 300lb fat chick, the range of guys more attractive to you is as wide as it gets.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/13 05:10 AM
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The depraved, fucked up shit is what makes those threads worthwhile reads, otherwise who gives a shit about a purported stable stripper (lololololol).
/r/TheRedPill01/09/13 11:47 PM
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It seems every Iama from strippers states they are doing it to pay for grad school, have a stable relationship, and are overall well adjusted - they are just really comfortable with their bodies. I guess they don't want to talk about how they popped a molly, got drunk, and let a guy slide it in for an extra bit of money. I dated a stripper and I certainly did do a lot of beta shit in the relationship, but I am glad I never tried to save her from stripping, and I cut it off rather quickly without…
/r/TheRedPill29/08/13 02:49 AM
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I think your entire premise is built around a false dichotomy - lifting vs being fit. Lifting (strength building) is a pre-requisite of being fit, and not an equivalent comparison. Of course being fit is a good thing, but in terms of attraction it should be muscularity/leanness vs less muscular/chubby, not including the benefits of achievement that physical endeavors give you.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 04:05 PM
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There really isn't a debate. You do have to be bigger and shredded. The debate comes from chubby/fat guys over estimating how much muscle they really have and under estimating how fat they are. Those aren't pecs, those are tits. Your shirt sleeves are snug because you have a layer of fat not because you have muscular biceps.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/13 03:24 AM
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He probably did super low calories (1200-1400) and embellished his actual weight loss for a better story - also camera/lighting/no-bloat. I know an MMA fighter who recently cut from 185 to 172 in about 3-4 weeks by doing 1400 calories a day combined with intense training.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/13 03:05 AM
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I recommend cut first. Don't try to do both, you'll end up just spinning your wheels. A skinny guy with no muscles is better than a chubby guy with muscles because lower bodyfat will make you more attractive due to facial features being more defined. It's just better from an aesthetics stand point and you'll feel better about yourself. Obviously neither choice is ideal, but you have to take a long view approach to all of this (think years). Also, knowing that you can diet will be beneficial. You…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 04:15 AM
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