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| 5 | A RedPill failure story...Yeah I was going to say. I was never really "beta," but... I placed my entire existence on "being worthy" of some girl Naa you're beta son | /r/askTRP | 31/08/16 09:00 PM |
| 1 | What is it with manipulative relationships?That's true, I always look back and wonder if I had a better influence as a kid, would I have ever needed a place like this. | /r/askTRP | 14/08/16 09:14 PM |
| 1 | What is it with manipulative relationships?It was a whole email of dating profiles, with money being spent on porn (when money was tight), it was all the people he was talking too and pictures of himself he sent that upset my mum. I was 10 when I discovered this, but it wasn't the porn that my mum was upset about, it was the dating profiles, sending pictures of himself to people, what he said to people and money being spent on porn/dating. I wasn't really shown what went on as it wasn't appropriate at the time. | /r/askTRP | 14/08/16 10:05 AM |
| 1 | What is it with manipulative relationships?Nah he's never hit my mum or brother, only me. I imagine it's because I caught him out doing things he shouldn't on the computer. We had a pretty good relationship (as I can remember) before that, I was 10 years old when all of this started to happen. | /r/askTRP | 13/08/16 10:03 PM |
| 1 | How do you deal with emotional burdens?Ah yeah, Elliott has some decent videos. I'll check them out, thanks for the suggestions | /r/askTRP | 06/08/16 10:51 PM |
| 2 | Why do girls ignore me after NC for 2-3 weeks?They don't need to wait | /r/askTRP | 05/08/16 03:41 PM |
| – | LTR has friend who bullies her. Should I step in or let her handle it?Remember, if you call a girl fat once she remembers it. If she is actually fat, and someone calls you out on your bs, you would be wrecked. Bonus if her BF tries to step in and you burn him too lol | /r/askTRP | 14/06/16 09:18 PM |
| 1 | "Can I borrow money?"I owed her money already and she brought it up. As a man I'd like to be honorable Aye? Pay her back, then don't lend any more money off anyone. Be the person people ask, then you can say no. | /r/askTRP | 14/06/16 09:13 PM |
| – | Displaying IDGAF and having other guys walking over you... how do you deal with it?It sounds like he's insecure, as he seems to be the aggressor (correct me if I'm wrong). how childish or stupid or whatever I am What kind of an insult is that, but anyway... Without seeing what you are like and how you hold yourself, I can't give you a definitive answer. This is something that is best for you to sit down for 10 minutes, and reflect on situations from an unbiased third prespective, and just be real with yourself. What I suspect, is you have a pretty good frame, however there are… | /r/askTRP | 29/05/16 10:22 PM |
| – | Displaying IDGAF and having other guys walking over you... how do you deal with it?Because when I act instantly, I always come out as butt hurt. Usually I'm a significant presence (The people I associate are rather beta... something I'm working on). So when I talk people listen, which makes it much easier to reply instantly and communicate the appropriate emotion. What are some exact examples of what he says? You want to reply instantly, you don't want to rush it and if someone tries to interupt speak louder. If you leave it a few seconds, it doesn't have the same impact. Once… | /r/askTRP | 29/05/16 05:31 PM |
| – | Displaying IDGAF and having other guys walking over you... how do you deal with it?But they can easily insult and try mock me to embellish themselves in front of women. What always works with me, is when someone starts doing something like this, flip it on them with a quick comeback, bonus if the girl finds it funny. | /r/askTRP | 29/05/16 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Bros before hoes?Before you plan to have someone's back, make sure that (1) they would do the same for you & (2) they know how life works. How do you deal with people who don't have your back? I know my brother and dad don't have my back as it's been proved on various occasions, as well as some "friends" - obviously the insight that they aren't to be relied on is good, do you just watch them crash and burn if they need your help? | /r/askTRP | 29/05/16 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Is how I feel normal?I feel money wouldn't make you happy, it just mitigates suffering. I don't know whether people are trying to get in my head or what, it all just raises questions which cannot be answered by anyone else but me unfortunately. | /r/askTRP | 29/05/16 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Is how I feel normal?Hmm that's quite interesting. From a young age, I've always been very interested in money. I use to collect lots of change and always count it haha. You could ask me anytime and I would know exactly how much money I have to the penny. Is money something that can fulfill an individual? Lots of people preach "money can't make you happy", but is this because they don't get enough? | /r/askTRP | 29/05/16 01:20 AM |
| 5 | Is how I feel normal?I don't feel drugs are going to help me sort out any emotional issues. Smoking weed has left me with visual snow, and I get quite paranoid with bad heart palpitations, I think if I did trip it would turn bad and have a detrimental effect. | /r/askTRP | 29/05/16 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Is how I feel normal?No I use to, stopped about 2 years ago give or take. How do I know what I want to be fulfilled? | /r/askTRP | 29/05/16 01:14 AM |
| 2 | Do you talk about other men with your SO?I think I wanted to tell her that he is a terrible guy and not to be friends with him. Why? The more you try and force your opinion on her, the more you push her away. I have spoken to an LTR about other men, and when she says their hot, I agree with her, sometimes I'll show her who I like too depending on our relationship. | /r/askTRP | 28/05/16 06:18 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of this behaviour?Soft next, don't initiate when you are on vacation. Find other girls on vacation if that is an option. This will show if she is interested or not by gauging her actions | /r/askTRP | 28/05/16 06:14 PM |
| 10 | If a girl used to live with her ex-boyfriend, would you consider that a red flag?How old is she? Not necessarily, for example if she was 16 at the time, and her boyfriend was 30 then I would take that as a red flag. However if she's say 25, and he was of similar age, that would come across as natural progression in terms of relationship. Does it bother you that she was in a LTR with someone else? | /r/askTRP | 28/05/16 06:10 PM |
| 2 | LTR claims she has no sex driveWhy would you personally not ask waitresses? | /r/askTRP | 06/05/16 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Had casual encounter with a girl, she is being irrational and it makes my brain hurtYeah I have, not because of things like this, but because I plan to start two businesses by the end of the year. Rather be coding than smoking as I'm at a critical place financially and creating a business that could support myself for the foreseeable future would change my life | /r/askTRP | 26/04/16 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Had casual encounter with a girl, she is being irrational and it makes my brain hurtYeah he's what I was about 3-4 years ago. I thought I'd test him and see what happened with a bit of RP knowledge, and he hasn't gone BP with it but has completely misinterpreted it so I'm going to get this out of the way, smash in the other girl and leave them all be. It's like in 50 cent's "sleep is for broke people", he says something similar to "you'll only be as successful as the people you speak to for no reason" and he doesn't add value so it's a no go for me. | /r/askTRP | 26/04/16 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Had casual encounter with a girl, she is being irrational and it makes my brain hurtYeah that's it exactly. In all honesty I've just ignored her so it's probably made her feel really bad. If I did what she did (wait until two girls got stoned, then came onto one of them) id be in a lot of shit as it looks bad. I like those responses, don't get sucked into defending yourself, either Yeah easily done, cheers for that, solid advice | /r/askTRP | 26/04/16 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Paranoid people are out to prevent my successThis is a matter of authenticity Exactly, I'll take a read of this as it's exactly what I'm going for. Thanks for the links | /r/askTRP | 20/04/16 03:14 PM |
| 0 | Paranoid people are out to prevent my successWhat you are mentioning here is not a matter of trust. Of course it's a matter of trust. Take for instance my first car. Assuming you have a license to drive a car, do you remember the day you got your first car? I had my heart set on a Beamer for about a year, waited a few months after I had my license in order to afford it fully without loaning any money. I obviously talked to my family about it, as well as my friends. So I set out and did what I said, kept to my word for a year. The car was f… | /r/askTRP | 20/04/16 03:09 PM |
| -1 | Paranoid people are out to prevent my successDon't get me wrong, I've been here a while. I own a business which is my sole income, IT based. I'm under 20 and I think I'm doing okay so far. Why am I boasting? I'm not. For instance, my family will always mention getting a "proper" job. Is running a business not a proper job? Or I had a BMW as my first car, saved up for it and paid for it along with my insurance, tax, mot completely with no additional help. My mum and dad kept going on and on and on about how I was a terrible driver, the car … | /r/askTRP | 20/04/16 02:13 PM |
| 6 | Asked a girl out and this is what she told meshe's not ready for a relationship Maybe she just wants a one night affair. Why not escalate? Got nothing to lose except a few hours. Worth it IMO | /r/askTRP | 12/04/16 08:43 PM |
| 1 | "You're just the nicest guy I've ever met"Thing is, I know she likes me because she texts me every day, and is all cheery and smiles with me. Doesn't mean she will act on it, or you are interpreting it correctly. I feel like I'm just the sweet nice friend who she'd rather not fuck if she doesn't have to. Sounds right to me. 4th date and you haven't tried to smash? You've friendzoned yourself Am I wasting my time? Arrange a "date" at your place, except make a move. Worst case she doesn't see it like that, and you've gained some experienc… | /r/askTRP | 07/04/16 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Girls, cars and you.Depends who you know. Had an older BMW which was decent, everyone went crazy because it was a BMW, but it was cheaper than a usual 1.2 POS. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/04/16 04:30 PM |
| 2 | When you see someone at the workplace (or in your group of friends) as inferior to you and you decide to ignore him, what to do when he starts ridiculing you in front of the group?They know he's messed up and fucked up, that's for sure. Family problems, issues in his past, drugs? What do you think it means? Speaking from my own experience, it's when you're improving and people test your frame. Maybe because they can see there are cracks in your frame, or because they're trying to bring themselves up the chain of command by shitting on your parade. Sometimes people are just arseholes. Is this in your group of friends, or at work? Because I wouldn't be too worried about wha… | /r/askTRP | 02/04/16 07:14 PM |
| 2 | When you see someone at the workplace (or in your group of friends) as inferior to you and you decide to ignore him, what to do when he starts ridiculing you in front of the group?Ah yeah I know what you mean. How do other people react to this kind of stuff? You want to go for something that's short and sweet, as if to stop him dead in his tracks. You'll need to keep on top of this, but if you keep shutting him down it flips it back on him and makes him look stupid for causing petty shit. For instance: "what, is he stupid or something?" Reply: "Yeah it's from spending too much time around you" Not expected, and the pressure falls on him to either have a better response, o… | /r/askTRP | 02/04/16 06:34 PM |
| 1 | When you see someone at the workplace (or in your group of friends) as inferior to you and you decide to ignore him, what to do when he starts ridiculing you in front of the group?You want something short and sweet, Do you have any specific examples of things he says? | /r/askTRP | 02/04/16 03:33 PM |
| 2 | What's TRP's view on MDMAs?Neither your jaw having it's own identity on a night out. | /r/askTRP | 30/03/16 08:17 PM |
| 1 | People and money?See you don't even know how much the car cost me, turns out it cost me less than £1k. Problem is I'm not going to move out unless I can buy a place of my own, but I don't even have the money for a deposit or the income to backup. The car costs less than you think, which as another comment pointed out is a common misconception, therefore allowing me to save more | /r/askTRP | 25/03/16 05:33 PM |
| 1 | People and money?Haha you're bm collection puts mine to shame, I'm only driving an E36, insurance is stopping me from upgrading to an E46 330ci. Funny though, the car cost me less than £1k yet my parents are pulling weird stuff like this | /r/askTRP | 25/03/16 05:31 PM |
| 1 | People and money?Thing is my parents aren't poor, I take after my dad in terms of financial management, and will save a lot more than I will spend. I think they have a misconception with my car, if I'm going to be honest it costs me barely anything to run, and not much to buy. But I'm never going to give it away, especially if you're looking through my private business. Makes me want to keep distance more than anything | /r/askTRP | 25/03/16 03:15 PM |
| 1 | People and money?Without going into too much detail, they would know if I was doing something illegal as I would tell them. I'm under their roof. I've always been good with money, I'm a saver not a spender. But going through my bank statements, and trying to get information out of me is too far imo. | /r/askTRP | 25/03/16 03:13 PM |
| 3 | Got caught by leaving a used condom around. Is it salvageable?Told her she's my number one, told her I actually give a damn about her more so than the other girls... Maybe a mistake right there. Maybe? Definately. she tells me the only thing she has done in the past 9 months was "kiss" a guy So they had sex. I've never trusted her and don't which is why I continued sleeping around Fair enough, trust your gut feeling. She doesn't say shit about it until she's getting ready to leave this morning My theory is because she has not been exclusive, she wasn't dis… | /r/askTRP | 25/03/16 01:35 PM |
| 2 | People making comments on my egoSo I know if I'm moving forward, or negatively impacting my relationships with people. I'm trying to improve myself, not burn bridges. | /r/askTRP | 24/01/16 07:53 PM |
| 2 | People making comments on my egoYeah I just wanted to see what this all meant, I'm speaking to her in an attempt to get with her, shes different (as in LTR material as far as I know, however I don't have these intentions). Good to know I'm on the right track | /r/askTRP | 24/01/16 04:39 PM |
| 1 | People making comments on my egoNo I wasn't there, they've said it to my mate. He also says I have a big ego, however I can tell he sees me as an influence because I help him with taking to girls, and am good with witty comebacks. I'm texting one of the girls he lives with, just to get a feel of what went down, some of her responses to cheeky things I've said (like setting up plans) are ignored, which makes me think they said it in a negative manner. | /r/askTRP | 24/01/16 04:15 PM |
| 1 | People making comments on my egoElaborate? | /r/askTRP | 24/01/16 02:57 PM |
| 2 | People making comments on my egoThey see inconsistencies with the frame you try to project and the frame they think you should have I would agree with this, maybe I don't look like someone who should have a higher SMV, its the girls in the accomodation who make comments, and my friend who admittedly is BP. | /r/askTRP | 24/01/16 01:52 PM |
| 1 | How do deal with emotional burden?How do deal with emotional burden? needing some people around you to feel good Where did I mention I need people around me? | /r/askTRP | 08/11/15 06:56 PM |
| 1 | How do deal with emotional burden?It's not about being self dependant at all | /r/askTRP | 08/11/15 06:12 PM |
| 1 | SMP/SMV induced depression phase... Hello old friend, didn't miss you fucker!Okay good. What languages can you code in, and did you study computer sci at uni (If not what course). Feel free to PM me if you don't want to give out personal details. With computers you can work for yourself, or for others. I can imagine it will be more difficult without a degree, but not impossible. Look at /r/forhire for a start and see if anything is applicable to your ability. Failing that, come up with ideas of your own to build a portfolio to present to business owners, or a combination… | /r/askTRP | 02/11/15 09:22 PM |
| 1 | SMP/SMV induced depression phase... Hello old friend, didn't miss you fucker!Almost 10lbs a month is good progress. At 17 I put on 14kg/30lbs of weight in 9 months (I was very skinny), and went from a 60kg deadlift (with bad form) to 140kg (not as bad form, with preworkout). It's a strange thing, and no one understands before they go, but I use to enjoy DOMS after leg day, or setting a new 1 rep max. Your gym progress is good, so keep it up. The issue with computer games and the like is you are living a virtual reality, where you're doing badass things, but in real life … | /r/askTRP | 02/11/15 09:11 PM |
| 2 | "You don't care about anyone but yourself" - Comments from malesI usually hear this from blood family when I'm recalling on a story. But usually it's something careless that I've done, and I'm reminiscing on it. But I think my mates girlfriend has a lot to do with it. His attitude to a lot of problems is appologise to make things "easier" and he puts up with her shit, whereas I'm the opposite. An example is she will get in my car (with him) and shes in the front. I'll put my music on and put the temp to what I want it to be, and she will randomly change shit… | /r/askTRP | 02/11/15 08:57 PM |
| 1 | "You don't care about anyone but yourself" - Comments from malesThey are all BP. For context, my friend has written a list on "how to treat girls right!" I was just wondering if I was overdoing it in some aspects. I think the reason I'm getting this feedback is because I've lost respect for girls I had. | /r/askTRP | 02/11/15 07:46 PM |
| 2 | "You don't care about anyone but yourself" - Comments from malesInteresting. I have recently been able to put RP principles into my actions - as my friends have recently gone to uni so it's a good sandbox to practice. Reassuring to know someone has got similar comments. | /r/askTRP | 02/11/15 07:02 PM |
| 1 | should i tell my friend about TRP?I tried to go against the grain and introduce my friend to the mindset of TRP without actually showing him the subreddit. He's full beta and writes lists on how to "treat" women nicely. Just leave it mate, sounds like hes doing fine on his own. | /r/askTRP | 19/10/15 02:56 PM |
| 1 | I weeded out a bad seed: How I did it (FR)I'm going to remember this. I currently have an ex plate that won't leave me alone, so I might try something similar on her | /r/TheRedPill | 05/10/15 02:31 PM |
| 1 | In a social situation with males who have a higher SMV?You only really care about yourself right? Unfortunately yes, I would like to help other people out but I've always had it backfire. I get what you mean about learning from people, I have been taking a step back (from trying to be the center of attention, and then looking like an idiot) to learning from people. It has made me into a quieter person, and it's interesting just watching the social dynamic take place - all of which has been laid out here. | /r/askTRP | 04/10/15 12:52 AM |
| 1 | In a social situation with males who have a higher SMV?I get you, so it's not best to try and out do them as you come across desperate I assume? | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 09:19 PM |
| 6 | Made out with a stripper in a strip-club, she gave me her number and wants to see me outside of the strip club. What's the catch?See how it goes, don't let this be a what if scenario. | /r/askTRP | 20/09/15 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Awkward situation don't know what to doI don't understand how this is awkward. It's awkward if you make it so. She flaked, at worst you lost some of your own free time. Just continue as normal, don't ignore her but don't make a huge effort with her, act as if you don't care... abundance mentality. Don't get caught up by being stood up - happens to the best of us. | /r/askTRP | 18/09/15 10:22 AM |
| 1 | Mum gets too sensitive, how do I deal with this?She should realize it's banter as my Dad and I call each other all sorts of names, and I give her loads of different casual nicknames too. I'll try what you said and see, might just be a case of experimentation. I hate dealing with female emotions | /r/askTRP | 06/09/15 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Mum gets too sensitive, how do I deal with this?Sorry for the confusion, I do appreciate the things she's done for me but I'm not going to be a doormat especially about a car. It's a bit of a difficult one because I feel dread wont be effective as it's a very different type of relationship. | /r/askTRP | 06/09/15 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Mum gets too sensitive, how do I deal with this?I'm not taking digs at her, I have known for a while that she is sensitive but the conversation is between myself and my Dad - I don't speak to my Mum about cars because she doesn't understand/care, I speak to her about different things. You're not gaming your mom. Of course not, but don't misunderstand that I'm taking digs. Because they're just cars, but its a joke between me and my Dad that she takes to heart because she owns the same make of car. I was just wondering how to deal with her when… | /r/askTRP | 06/09/15 05:37 PM |
| 0 | If you were really ugly and 5'5" how would you run game?Not sure if joking or not | /r/askTRP | 05/09/15 11:59 AM |
| -2 | Can someone be both alpha and beta?You're either one or the other, with tendencies from the opposite side. So you could be RP with BP tendencies. | /r/askTRP | 30/08/15 11:24 AM |
| 6 | How screwed am I?Don't worry about it. She isn't pregnant currently, so don't stress. If she does become pregnant, you are 100% fucked | /r/askTRP | 27/07/15 12:29 PM |
| 2 | Accused of sleeping with best mates LTR?He is Beta as fuck, but he knows that my ex did the same to me. Really disappointing to be honest | /r/askTRP | 25/07/15 09:06 PM |
| 9 | GF reneg'd promiseGet her tested too, if they come back negative then what's the point of a condom, especially as you've had a vasectomy | /r/askTRP | 25/07/15 12:40 PM |
| 1 | How do I stop laughing so much?Casual users don't smoke everyday. I never said casual users do smoke everyday. I invest my money in myself and things I know will net me a return at some point in the future. Yeah I get you, same here | /r/askTRP | 24/07/15 07:08 PM |
| 1 | How do I stop laughing so much?It depends on the person. I have a few acquaintances who are fiends, and they're always trying to bring me back into it all. These are the people you can't be friends with, because they see you as money or drugs. I agree you can't be friends with an addict, but you can be friends with a casual user. As for doing drugs, personally it wasn't worth it. Invest that time into something useful, but each to their own. | /r/askTRP | 24/07/15 06:08 PM |
| 1 | How do I stop laughing so much?For me it was over a year, I use to smoke about 3-4 grams of grade a day for about a year (give or take). Things do go back to normal, helps if you don't do any other drugs in between (drinking and smoking tobacco included). Made me appreciate my relationships with people and opportunities I took for granted beforehand. | /r/askTRP | 24/07/15 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Right approach to a fucker on the bus?walking away is the most cost efficient method, unless there's no way out Answered your own question | /r/askTRP | 15/07/15 09:58 AM |
| 2 | What do I say to this text?Don't worry about your ex. She is irrelevant and I advise you to not go back there, just block her number and move on. Meet up with the girl you're currently speaking to and take it from there | /r/askTRP | 14/07/15 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Right approach to a fucker on the bus?Or at least throw a punch. I don't usually see red that easily but if someone spat at me I would be pissed off | /r/askTRP | 14/07/15 07:12 PM |
| 1 | What do I say to this text?Just learn from it. Are you still talking to the second girl (Not your ex)? If not go and speak to someone else | /r/askTRP | 14/07/15 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Moving in with 2 girls - What kinds of shit tests should I expect?Don't try and fuck either, don't shit where you eat, and you eat at home | /r/askTRP | 14/07/15 02:37 PM |
| 1 | How do y'all take care of your face?I'm only 18, but I find not washing my face everyday. I rinse with water everyday, but I don't use soaps or moisturizer everyday - before you go taking loads of pills and wasting money, try not washing your face with soap for 4 days, wash once then 3 days, wash once then do it every other day. Not sure how but has pretty much cleared up everything for me | /r/askTRP | 09/07/15 09:16 PM |
| 1 | How to get better at one-on-one conversations?I don't know where you go to meet/speak to girls in a one to one scenario. However, in general conversation I use these: Make eye contact, obviously don't stare them out but use it appropriately. If you find this hard, practice making eye contact in public, you will eventually find you are able to make eye contact until the other person looks away. With women, I find it better to listen more than speak about myself. So once the conversation starts, you can ask "Got any plans for this weekend" or… | /r/askTRP | 27/06/15 10:15 AM |
| 2 | Do you think male contraception would be a game changer?I ask because women seem to be put off my men having a vasectomy, as well as men who don't want children having that in the back of their minds. Wondering if men having more control over this would change things, as it is ultimately the female who decides if you keep the child or not | /r/askTRP | 19/06/15 07:44 PM |
| 4 | Girlfriend aborted our baby, parents "disowned me", lost job, lost everything (31 m)It is unfortunate that everything has come at once, it makes it worse because you go from everything to nothing. I can also sympathize with having to abort a baby, her family was really big on kids, she and her family wanted to keep it but I had to go and see the pictures of what I would essentially have to kill, and then get it over with. Make a new start now, learn from mistakes and hit the gym. You might feel like a twat and honestly I was barely 120 lb at 5"7 but I have made mad gains and it… | /r/askTRP | 14/06/15 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Plate a girl who has a kid?I would be worried about her keeping a potential kid of yours as she already has one | /r/askTRP | 13/06/15 11:20 AM |
| 5 | Girl explicitly tells me she won't have sex with me, 5 minutes later I'm fucking her brains out. A story of my first red pill momentWhen I used lube it helps to avoid getting shit on you, you don't just magically split an arsehole. Fair play OP good to hear | /r/TheRedPill | 05/06/15 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Getting accused of rape?Yeah solid advice. I do avoid doing any kind of drugs with girls period, and I'm not one to kiss and tell. I believe the reason why I am worrying is because I recently had sex with someone and she went full on crazy, wouldn't leave me alone and claimed she thought I was perfect, wanted me to be her boyfriend... etc. This seems to be the trend with girls I get involved with, even though I make it thoroughly clear it's just sex. | /r/askTRP | 27/05/15 11:37 AM |
| 2 | The hardest job on the planetYeah my mate use to be quite feminine. I suppose it depends on your mindset and how you deal with it, I grew up with all males apart from my mum so I have always been tilted to a more male influence. Especially since I read TRP and realised I had a better connection with my dad - one I couldn't share with my mum. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 10:44 AM |
| 19 | The hardest job on the planetSame here, I used to have a mate that lived with just females in the house (Dad left) and looking back I can see how that influence affected him | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Start using Tor browser for all your Redpill/Manosphere browsing and posting.Yeah I am aware of legal uses of Tails, however do you use it for them? I'm not criticizing Tails as I think it is a great idea, but for the purpose of using it for TRP is very extreme. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/15 12:35 PM |
| 3 | Start using Tor browser for all your Redpill/Manosphere browsing and posting.I wouldn't go to that extreme just to browse this subreddit. Use a VPN that doesn't keep logs (Consider purchasing a VPS and creating it yourself for a bit of extra piece of mind). I wouldn't waste your time using Tails unless you are into credit card fraud. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/15 12:42 AM |
| 1 | How do you tell the difference between shit tests and comfort tests?Depends on the circumstances. Say for example you've just cold approached a girl then certainly. However if you have been speaking to a girl for any length of time then no. | /r/askTRP | 13/04/15 07:53 PM |
| -2 | How do you tell the difference between shit tests and comfort tests?Shit test: "What car do you drive?" Comfort test: "Why are you talking to me?" | /r/askTRP | 13/04/15 07:44 PM |
| 1 | How long do you go radio silent for?When I text her I said "If it's just sex, I'll give you a call next week and see if you're busy". Yeah I've just blocked her number for a bit because she keeps texting me crap, might consider her later if I'm not doing anything | /r/askTRP | 12/04/15 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Texting the ex for my clothes backDude just get your stuff back, don't think into it. Don't try and be "alpha" because she doesn't care, get your clothes and improve. She will care 6 months down the line when she sees your better off without her. | /r/askTRP | 12/04/15 01:54 PM |
| 2 | Vice Help: AlcoholYeah I get you, plus it depends on the type of drug too. I was smoking weed heavily for about a few months as emotional protection and decided to quit straight up. Problem I find with doing drugs is for the next few days I indirectly allow myself to do it, but regret it after. So one drink turns into two, and after you've had two you might as well just get plastered and start fresh tomorrow. It really depends on you OP, some people are allergic to nuts and some aren't just don't make excuses | /r/askTRP | 11/04/15 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Vice Help: AlcoholPersonally I find it easier to quit cold turkey, first 3 days are bad then you just need to stay headstrong and not go back. I did it with smoking weed and tobacco at the same time, just do it | /r/askTRP | 11/04/15 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Any IT RPers?Yeah, they were pretty open about it too. Shame I didn't find RP before I was in an LTR with her | /r/askTRP | 06/04/15 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Snatching the cell phone out of her handYeah I see what you mean, problem is it's highly circumstantial and depends on you and the person you are with. If things are going well, I might do it as a playful gesture, but if it's pissing me off I would go about it differently. As for being downvoted, it happens to the best of us, hard to see it from another persons perspective but I assume as soon as you have a few downvotes people really go to town with it. | /r/askTRP | 05/04/15 06:48 PM |
| 7 | Any IT RPers?My exes girlfriends said "Always stay with a guy who's involved in IT. They'll do well" think about it, everything is becoming more IT, adapt and learn. The possibilities are endless, I help people repair computers, make websites, build computers. You just need to learn, becoming a jack of all trades if you like. I see IT as a way of creating businesses, you don't necessarily need to work for someone. | /r/askTRP | 05/04/15 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Snatching the cell phone out of her handWell personally I would just ignore it, depends if its an LTR then you can just ask her to ease up with the phone. People might just feel its unjustified, she could be taking to her girl mates about you, in a positive way. Ever thought of it like that? | /r/askTRP | 05/04/15 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Premature ejaculationWell I figured no better place to ask, as people here would have multiple partners. I was lucky because she came before I did, but she only wanted one orgasm? I found that strange, I think I get too caught up making it good for her which is why I finished quick. I'll look at that link as I've heard good things | /r/askTRP | 05/04/15 05:42 PM |
| 2 | How to make a girl come to my place.You could say "Come round mine, see what happens" "Home alone on ... stay round" "Have some drinks round mine" Change as you will, as it's been said just ensure its consequence free and you'll do fine | /r/askTRP | 04/04/15 01:40 PM |
| 3 | Aiming to hook up with a "taken" girl tonight at a party, any advice?Personally I'd just talk to her normally, test the water. Bit of a dangerous game especially if her boyfriend's there. Just don't build up any expectations, as this will lead to disappointment. Speak to other girls, make them laugh whilst she can see this and it will help you definitely. | /r/askTRP | 04/04/15 12:25 PM |
| 1 | Girl I used to orbit got in contact.Okay, from what you've given me she knows you were orbiting her, and now you've improved she wants to put you back in your place. It's good she has noticed you've improved your SMV, and you also aren't orbiting her. If you haven't spoken to her in a while, consider replying with "Who is this?" or "What are you on about?" as she has just randomly text you saying you need closure. Depends on the girl and the situation. Edit: Saw johnnights comment and I agree with what he is saying too, Amused Mas… | /r/askTRP | 04/04/15 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Girl I used to orbit got in contact.You don't need any closure, you have sorted yourself out. From what you're telling me it seems this is just a poor attempt to make conversation, so you could potentially be on to something. Do you work with her? Or just school/college? | /r/askTRP | 04/04/15 11:19 AM |
| 3 | Appropriate age differenceProviding you both consent, then being over the age of consent is okay. It's up to you whether the age gap is off putting, however personally it wouldn't bother me | /r/askTRP | 02/04/15 01:01 PM |
| 2 | TRP has made me very untrusting and "worrisome"... advice for new relationship?Some things I have taken from a 1.5 year relationship are: Look at her Sister and Mum, see how they act and how she acts around them. Apply this to females she makes contact with too. What types of people does she associate with? Are all her friends sluts or are they pretty chill Is she open about her past What were her previous partners like that you know of (Long term boyfriends etc.) There's no need to be paranoid about her, because at the end of the day it won't make anything better. Just bu… | /r/askTRP | 30/03/15 09:43 PM |
| 3 | Would you next an almost perfect LTR with one giant red flag?How long have you known her? Before I came to RP I was best friends with a girl for 5 years and we were together for a a year and a half. Was the worst thing I did, however she was "perfect" at the time. I would tread carefully, feel free to PM me if you want to know more but she won't show her true colours until you're in deep. Edit: My ex was suicidal, she actually swallowed a load of tablets and then texted me to call her an ambulance. If I didn't I would be in the shit if she died, but if I … | /r/askTRP | 30/03/15 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Close friend invites me to take part in a threesome with him and his Fiancee.Bit of a weird one, personally depends on your relationship with your mate. If it's some girl at a party then why not, but a fiance is a bit different | /r/askTRP | 26/03/15 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Is this a shit test? How do I respondGot anywhere to read up on LMR? Feel this will come in handy | /r/askTRP | 18/03/15 08:59 PM |
| 5 | My girl lied over something small. What do?Exactly how it goes | /r/askTRP | 05/03/15 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Need advice from RP mastersYeah could be she is trying to stir shit up for you, thin ice | /r/askTRP | 28/02/15 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyYeah, I don't want to orbit her because that's not my intentions. Just weird that shes doubling it, but if she was interested she wouldn't do petty shit like that | /r/askTRP | 25/02/15 12:10 PM |
| 0 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyNo worries, will do | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 11:29 PM |
| 0 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyLook at other peoples answers compared to yours, if you actually read what I wrote I'm not making a big deal. I have timestamps next to my messages (BBM) which are always there, and I happen to have read them. I don't know how to make that any less of a big deal as my phone tells me what time it is, if that's not low key I don't know what is my man | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 11:27 PM |
| 0 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyI promise you, I'm not making it a big deal. I think you should spend time doing something productive rather than reply to my question. | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 11:19 PM |
| 0 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyI have timestamps to the left of all my messages as I run a business from my phone, so its not really a big deal | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 10:25 PM |
| 2 | i no longer know what to do...I know what you mean dude. In this situation don't do drugs, my ex cheated on my with my best mate and I spent a year smoking weed to keep my mind off things. Its not a solution, so stay off drugs (Including alcohol) until you've sorted yourself out 100% Go to the gym, make friends, and she might get brought up in convo, and you might miss her, but it fades away. Live life don't just live in the past because that's who you were. Eventually it will be a past memory, and you'll be free my man | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyWill do. Might drop her because I like to keep it simple, not spilling my life story over text. I don't really want to get to know her because it has no value if I'm honest. | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyYeah what I'm saying is were having a general convo or whatever it's not important. I take say 10 min to reply because I'm eating or whatever, so she takes exactly 20. No probs I don't care, so say I take 15, she will take exactly 30. So then say I take an hour because I'm in a call, she will take exactly two hours. It always works out exactly double what I have done, as I can see the timestamps on texts I have noticed this trend. I can understand like general reply times because I'm busy too an… | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyBut when you can't have a conversation because she is doubling reply times... there is no content. I don't see why she is doing it, would you do this? | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 08:06 PM |
| 1 | i no longer know what to do...Well if hes wrong why are you asking the question? Either sort yourself out or don't, as harsh as it is you don't love her you just miss what you had. There's nothing wrong with missing things, man I miss my Grandmar, but I go and see her/call I don't cry about it, because in the end I will need to sort it out. Calm down and think about what you need to do in a rational state, then do what you gotta do man it will be okay | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyYeah, I do have other things going on so its not really a big deal at all, I just found it really weird someone would do that. If someone texts me I reply when I can, I don't care about it that much. Worst case I go on and fuck someone else, like you said, win/win ;) | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 07:54 PM |
| 2 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyYeah, I use to only apply this with females, but really it needs to be with everyone because they can tell if you are acting or not. Females are strange things yo | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyYeah that's what I'm thinking. Shes not new to this, so she must have a load of orbiters so shes had practice. Need to bring my a game I think | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyThanks man, I am going to try this. Does it usually work out well? | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyShe can crack on, I don't mind. Just its literally double what I take (as its timestamped I';ve noticed) just weird I think | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 07:35 PM |
| 0 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyNot waiting for a text, no idea where you got that from | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyI'm not scared, just she lives far away and to be honest I cant really be arsed, probably a 30min drive just for a possible shag when I could just as easily drive 5 min you know? | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyYeah just it's weird that someone is that petty about texting. Like I text when I can because I'm running a business/driving so I don't want to be chatting to someone, I want to be getting what I need. | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyYeah that's what I'm doing, just wondered what people do in this situation. Basically I've noticed that if I say take 10 minutes to reply, she doubles it, which isn't a problem but if I suddenly take 2 mins she will reply within 4, I text when I can and I'm not counting the seconds if you see what I mean. Wondering what people do in this situation/have come across, but apparently there are a lot of bellends on this sub | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 06:38 PM |
| -1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyI don't know if you've ever used a phone but its timestamped (well for me at least) its not literally 10 minutes its an example. I'm not glued to my phone, and I don't really know how you came to this conclusion, but I'll try and use the useful parts of your response. | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyYeah I figured, I only use my phone for business so this makes a change, cheers for the infos | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyWill take a look cheers, it's not really too bad just thought out of curiosity if it happens. Thanks for the only useful response | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 06:31 PM |
| 1 | I fucked up a bit (lol), bit of advice please.Personally I'd just carry on as normal, if she makes a big deal about it then just play it off it's really circumstantial. Just carry on as normal, don't get awkward just stay confident and you'll be good to go dude | /r/askTRP | 24/02/15 12:17 PM |
| 1 | What do you do when you can't think straight?Yeah this is what I've been trying to do, I think smoking a lot of weed has something to do with it, I feel as though I didn't agree with it/smoked too much. I was toking everyday for a year or so, about 4 grams through a bong so I am kind of still repairing mentally I guess, problem is I'm only 17 now. Feel as though this is the only common denominator. I'm not saying weed is a bad thing at all, I'm saying I was irresponsible. It's not a magical drug, drink enough water and you will die - moder… | /r/askTRP | 23/02/15 06:08 PM |
| 1 | What do you do when you can't think straight?Can you relate? /joke | /r/askTRP | 19/02/15 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Girl at work wants to get it on, what do you think?It's all great but you haven't taken into consideration a few things. Jobs aren't easy to come by, it's probably OP's livelyhood, who does OP live with? Does he have kids? What would happen if OP lost his job? In the end its not worth, best case she sticks around for the sex and then you go your separate ways, worst case? You don't know because you aren't OP. tldr; Not worth | /r/askTRP | 15/02/15 10:41 PM |
| 1 | plate wants to go without condom, even already took testsYeah I get what you're saying. It's not in my best interest to contract HIV, however the likelyhood is low. It would just be of concern if someone sprung HIV specifically, if they wanted me to get a test for several things just to be sure, I wouldn't argue. I can't judge her character, or the situation you guys might be in just flagged red with me | /r/askTRP | 15/02/15 10:34 PM |
| 1 | plate wants to go without condom, even already took testsTo get tested, sure. But the test for HIV is different to getting tested for chlamydia, it's strange that she jumped straight to a HIV test as it's not as common as chlamydia. You may have had squeaky clean girls, but this might not be the case with OP. I am giving him my opinion as you are, however he has to make the final decision. I have never come across this, which under the circumstances I think its strange. There must be a reason she got tested for HIV, I have never felt compelled to. Chl… | /r/askTRP | 14/02/15 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Should I try steroids?Yeah that's what I thought, it's hard to look at your doings and see where you're going wrong, however OP with the infos you have given us its either your routine, eating or you need to see a doctor asap. | /r/askTRP | 14/02/15 01:31 PM |
| 1 | plate wants to go without condom, even already took testsShe had a HIV test? What has she been up to? I never in my life have had to get a test to confirm if I have HIV. There are two sides to every story, but if someone has done this I would probably avoid. She also expects you to get one. If you are happy with her actions I wont judge, but if someone told me to go and get a test I would refuse, as she is the one that wants to ditch the condom. I would think about this, evaluate the situation. I don't know you or your plate but if someone wanted me t… | /r/askTRP | 11/02/15 09:14 PM |
| 1 | NUDES/VIDEOS post break-up: what do you guys do with them?In my opinion this is too far. Get laid by someone else. Use Tinder, go out and speak to people | /r/askTRP | 11/02/15 09:08 PM |
| 1 | I need helpshe want to watch the movie wiht me, but only when she is drunk and she said otherwise she wont be willing to. You never end up watching a film, not in my experience anyway. Go for it op, just be confident. Being drunk, with you, watching a film... means not watching the film. | /r/askTRP | 11/02/15 08:58 PM |
| 6 | Should I try steroids?If you are under 25 you still huge scope to get gains, your test is still high (although closer to 25 and it will be lower compared to your teens). Judging by what you said you need to eat more, you may think you eat enough but actually count your calories, carbs, protien, fat etc and come back. If you haven't made gains in a year its either your eating or routine. Evaluate yourself, you still need to put in work for steroids. GL | /r/askTRP | 11/02/15 08:02 PM |
| 0 | What good advice to give to a daughter or younger sister?Personally she needs to learn first hand, I am not a female or a feminist - not my deal. Some people learn from advice, and some learn from practice. She needs to draw her own opinion. If she wants to join what these people believe then there is little to stop it, if you personally try and prevent it she will find other ways to join this culture. It is stupid, I agree that it's a shame people get raped etc. for the way they dress, however common sense kicks in and you try and prevent this. The a… | /r/askTRP | 07/02/15 03:08 PM |
| 1 | my gf told me she and her best (male) friend had a fwb relationship for couple months before me - how to think/proceed?In this situation, how would you personally downgrade her from girlfriend to plate? I haven't been on here too long, seems quite risky unless it's handled carefully (something I would most likely cock up). what would you do? | /r/askTRP | 07/02/15 03:00 PM |
| 1 | my gf told me she and her best (male) friend had a fwb relationship for couple months before me - how to think/proceed?Either way, if a Leopard changes it's stripes or spots, stay away. It's a dodgy Leopard | /r/askTRP | 07/02/15 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Can it be too late to improve SMV?Good to hear someone was in the same position, I think as I'm going to uni in under two years time will give me a fresh start and re create myself effectively. Getting laid isnt my main focus, its up there but top priority is getting money and sorting out family. I think it helps having a main aim that isn't women as if you are having a dry spell you can still crack on with your stuff. Ill take a look at those suggestions, thanks man, and good luck with your future endeavors! | /r/askTRP | 16/01/15 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Can it be too late to improve SMV?Yeah I have, I am kind of happy it happened because it has forced me to grow a pair, and she was really manipulative so I think its good training for the future, which I am never going to forget!!!! Yeah it's unfortunate as I'm in an all male class, but hopefully the good salary will help me on my travels like you said. Hahaha thanks for that, I will do. | /r/askTRP | 16/01/15 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Can it be too late to improve SMV?Nice one, I literally have a profile picture and nothing else, so will do thanks! | /r/askTRP | 16/01/15 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Can it be too late to improve SMV?I make sure my preworkout is good, with fruits, veggies and lots of carbs as I am a skinny guy. Ill get in the gym, go for deadlifts straight away, start off with just the bar [20KG] just to get the motion right and warm up a little bit. I would recommend 5 mins on a bike just to warm up your legs. 4-6 sets of deadlifts from 70KG - 120KG [3-5 reps if I want to push that 1 rep up, 6-8 for better form and strength] 4 sets of seated rows, usually start at 30kg - 50kg (machine only goes up to 50kg) … | /r/askTRP | 16/01/15 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Can it be too late to improve SMV?Nice saying, I'll remember that one. Gym is already in progress, forgot to take a before and after picture but I have gained 20KG of weight, and gone from 50KG (Weight) - 70KG DL to 70KG (weight) 140KG DL, so I'm happy so far. Yeah I always look for ways to better myself, its annoying as there isn't really any light at the end of the tunnel because I always feel I can do better, I think I'm already going in the right direction (finally) but it must take time to raise ones SMV. | /r/askTRP | 15/01/15 10:12 PM |
| – | New trainersThis is a totally wrong subreddit for your question How? I'm asking TRP about what they wear, /r/asktrp is the perfect place to do so if I'm not mistaken | /r/askTRP | |
| – | New trainersDepends how old you are. I'm 18, going to a party at uni, not going for the trousers and polo/shirt as that's not me | /r/askTRP | |
| – | "You don't care about anyone but yourself" - Comments from malesYeah I'm on the same level as you. My mates will ask me for advice on the situation they're in, and I give it to them. I get it thrown back in my face, so they go back and appologise... never ending circle. I feel as though I'm too nice as well, however I think there's a limit before you become too ruthless, and it's difficult to judge yourself because you feel it's justified. | /r/askTRP | |
| – | SMP/SMV induced depression phase... Hello old friend, didn't miss you fucker!I don't see why not. They know how to manipulate people, and they're very good at it too. Admittedly this is why I'm here. I got played by a crazy and got her pregnant - lucky for me she didn't keep it because of various reasons. Yeah it may be the best sex you've ever had, it it worth getting manipulated and feeling like shit just for some pussy? I don't feel the need to do so for sex, but as I said it's up to you. I would need a guide like 'How to look and be like a normal human being, even if… | /r/askTRP | |
| – | SMP/SMV induced depression phase... Hello old friend, didn't miss you fucker!You won't ever get your mind away from women, because it's evolutionary. You might not want to look at that ass but you will anyway. I think if you get back out there it will allow you to know you can get other girls. I would take the borderline girl...I have a thing for spycho chicks and my LTR of 7 years also had borderline. Really dude? There's a reason why, even BPers say "don't stick your dick in a crazy". | /r/askTRP | |
| – | SMP/SMV induced depression phase... Hello old friend, didn't miss you fucker!You need to get other females on the go. I have been out of an LTR for about a year and a half now. I still look back and think to myself "Damn that sex was good" but I don't miss her. In my current mental and physical state im in no way able to plate anyone or anything (land whales/hamplanets) Sort it out then. Change your look, get some ambitions, lift, create something, read books. With your current attitude this will reflect your body language and will be a putoff immediately. Do you try and… | /r/askTRP | |
| – | Two girls coming to town to see me at the same time and both will meet my ex. What to do?I get you. The way you worded it put emphasis on these girls meeting your ex. Do you have a defined relationship with either of the girls, or just banging? If the latter, there isn't any problem. Would they tell you if they're sleeping with others? Why should you have to? | /r/askTRP | |
| – | Two girls coming to town to see me at the same time and both will meet my ex. What to do?There isn't anything to solve. Your ex is your ex, you aren't married, you aren't in a relationship. She is a friend, nothing more. You have needs, and you are going to see other girls. Who gives a fuck what she says? | /r/askTRP | |
| – | How to get better at one-on-one conversations?Practice makes perfect, I'm not the best at one to one conversations but I get better by conversing with people. You don't get better at driving a car by sitting in the passengers seat | /r/askTRP | |
| – | Someone I'm speaking to takes a long time to replyThats not what I'm saying. I'm saying I've noticed it, I don't care just its weird, I would never do such a thing which is why I'm questioning it. | /r/askTRP | |
| – | What do you do when you can't think straight?I am trying, but I find myself within these scenarios in my head, most of the time they aren't even relatively possible. Sometimes about past experiences, its never anything positive though. Like I made a few mistakes at work and I will daydream about those, and so the cycle continues. It's not a matter of forcing myself to pay attention otherwise I wouldn't have posted it here. Imagine you are playing a computer game, you can see the screen however you have peripheral vision. You are focused on… | /r/askTRP | |
| – | What do you do when you can't think straight?I might give that a try, I'm not tired, well I never feel 100% rested, I eat rather well, get between 8-12 hrs sleep a night, shower daily. Just feel emotionally gone, and I just find myself in these trances where I'm on autopilot really. Like I can read something, or get told a set of instructions and I am listening, I can turn around and not remember anything. Such as at work I can be told to get something, and be looking right at it but it just doesn't connect. Almost as if I'm slipping off s… | /r/askTRP | |
| – | What do you do when you can't think straight?Got any links or videos on how to? Sounds a bit stupid but I'm really not with it at the moment. Getting worked raw 7 days a week at the moment | /r/askTRP | |
| – | my gf told me she and her best (male) friend had a fwb relationship for couple months before me - how to think/proceed?This. Do not proceed, will end really badly. Would your gf stay with you if you and your female best friend were in the same situation? No, then you shouldn't either. My ex use to have a situation like this, but she trickle told me over a year, if I knew it all up front I would have just dropped her there, leopard never changes it stripes OP. | /r/askTRP |
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