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This is a good one tbh. A lot of the time, guys who brag about having a high lay count (assuming it's not just flat out lies) are banging some pretty dodgy looking girls who you likely wouldn't evne WANT to sleep with lol The professional pickup artists who actually sleep with pretty girls and have a good approach to lay ratio with them girls are ALWAYS the good looking pickup artists (coach Kyle etc) And whilst the not good looking pickup artists can get hot girls, their approach to lay ratio w…
/r/seduction19/06/26 06:59 AM
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pushpull, i'm guessing
/r/seduction18/06/26 12:57 PM
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i feel like THIS is the actual answer for the questions guys come on here to try to 'work out' lol.
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:23 PM
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I feel like yo'uve been gaslit in basically all of the replies lol. People are essentially saying 'go out and practice'. You say 'practice what exactly? that's what i've been doing but it's not working. I'm asking for practical advice that I can go out and apply now', and then people say 'you're thinking about it wrong' or some other vague answer to try to dodge the question lol. It's like you saying 'I'm trying to work on saying the alphabet, but I only know up to 'K' - and instead of people sa…
/r/seduction14/06/26 04:38 PM
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the techniques don't work if you are not her type Very easy to test as all of the game material is so mainstream that you can read any PUA book and use the techniques tonight. Some PUA's give you verbatim lines for each 'tech' and 'stage' to use, so very easy to test But you will find they do'nt help at all if she's not attracted to you. Your pushpull lines do'nt help etc. Go out tonight and test if for yourself. Pick a PUA model (manye posters have given cliffnotes here for everything from myst…
/r/seduction10/06/26 03:05 PM
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only if you're not her type. Same as cold approaching on a street. They say it's 'harassment' if a guy who isn't hot is cold approaching lots of girls. (some PUA's have even been jailed for it)
/r/seduction24/05/26 04:35 PM
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Agreed. OK, lets change it. She needs to think you are 'fuckable' (she'd swipe right on tinder for example), visually, first. THEN you can game her.
/r/seduction19/05/26 05:51 PM
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do you sleep with girls who you don't think are good looking?
/r/seduction19/05/26 05:21 PM
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they both matter. As you always read, 'looks get your foot in the door. Game helps crack it open' (or variations of that lol). Obviously if she doesn't tihnk you are good looking then you are dead in the water and need to move on too a new girl to try with
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:09 PM
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Once a girl is somewhat into me, im in my a game most of the time. The gap is in the beginning. No one could help me improve. then your game is as good as anyone elses. Nobody can 'game' a girl into wanting him lol. Game is about closing the girls who want you and it sounds like you are ok at that. Watch infield and watch what happens when the 'expert' approaches a girl who is very cold and unreceptive (hint - it ends in a rejection despite him holding frame and using pushpull)
/r/seduction19/05/26 12:35 PM
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get too a 10 yourself. You're already quite close at 8-9
/r/seduction18/05/26 03:19 PM
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limiting beliefs lol. I love that phrase!! Tell Tyler
/r/seduction17/05/26 05:10 PM
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Tyler gets rejected a LOT (and he admits it). That's the point. Have you seen his hot seat at home product where you see what a night out is like for him? A shit tonne of rejections lol. Despite his super human 'game'. His game is very good, but all that means is that he is able to bang the girls who think he is attractive. He needs to find them girls. Same as all of us. His 'game' does'nt work on the girls who aren't attracted to him
/r/seduction17/05/26 05:06 PM
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technique is irrelevant. It's all about finding the girls who like how you look. From there, forget all the 'tech'. As you say, just chat, have fun, and make a move. it'll work If she isn't attracted to how you look, nothing will work so move on to the next girl. She can't be 'seduced' unless she thinks yo're hot. everyone on seddit has 'learnt seduction'. The info has been mainstream for quite a while now. So more 'tech' isn't the answer lol
/r/seduction17/05/26 04:15 PM
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get very good looking, or get famous
/r/seduction17/05/26 04:00 PM
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the answer is starring you all in the face lol Looks get you the audition. Game is there to help you get the role. But if you're not her type (looks) then your 'game' is irrelevant to her
/r/seduction17/05/26 12:47 PM
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Nope, that wasn't me dude, sorry. I never had a rollercoaster routine i guess i could upload the footage to show you and win a bet? (mehow was in it too) i believe she thought you were hot. Not all girls have typical preferences. She had yellow fever. I've been with a few girls way out of my league, too. I should become a dating coach too based on that, tbh! I could prove it and show pics of me with her as a way to get a clients lol
/r/seduction17/05/26 12:31 PM
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i've seen them. As I say, I've seen (and have access too) literally EVERYTHING in the PUA world lol. When I described the scene to you, that didn't ring a bell? (you talking about how she reminds you of your little sister, the rollercoaster routine (taking her to disneyland), the usual 'trouble' lines etc?? 'you're housebroken, right?' line etc). You ran all your best game and lines in both sets and it didn't work BECAUSE that's not how game works!! lol And i tihnk you know that I actually belie…
/r/seduction17/05/26 12:10 PM
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you have infield of you pulling it off? i've never seen a coach do it and i've watched thousands of infields lol. It's fantasy. I've seen infield of you aprpoach girls who weren't into you, and even after all of your routines about taking her on a rollercoaster and all the other routines and material, the girls just walked away because you simply weren't her type.
/r/seduction17/05/26 11:24 AM
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the 'skill' element is way overhyped lol - (the amount of skill needed when you approach an attracted girl is just base level social skills we all have. Look at lay reports from the studs at 'sosuave' forum. it's just 'hi', 'you're hot', some basic quetsions adn then take her home to bed. Anyone can do that IF you find a girl who wants yo). And absolutely nobody pulls the girls who are clearly very unattracted at the open. Even the coaches in this very thread, as their own infield shows lol
/r/seduction17/05/26 09:28 AM
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But she WILL see you once she turns around lol. That's my point. The same tap can come across differently depending on who's doing it. Yo're talking as if attraction is something that only exists before the interaction starts, when in reality the interaction itself creates the first impression. The tap IS the introduction. Her reaction will partly depend on how she perceives the guy doing it once she turns around.
/r/seduction16/05/26 08:22 PM
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all you tend to learn is that you just weren't her type tbh lol.
/r/seduction16/05/26 05:43 PM
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When I go from behind or tap on the shoulder it won't lead to any success. works fine for some guys tbh. I wouldn't over think it if I were you. Everything will work if she's attracted to you, really. And nothing is gonna work if she's not.
/r/seduction16/05/26 05:27 PM
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yep, I assume every seddit poster has already learnt game. Would be hard not too. That's the easy bit. Now they need to get attractive (gym etc) and approach lots of girls so that when they eventually find one who is attracted to him, he can use his game
/r/seduction16/05/26 02:37 PM
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i think everyone has already learnt game though. That's what this sub is about. There's links to so many ebooks and programs that every single poster should be a game expert, really. It's kind of easy.
/r/seduction16/05/26 02:03 PM
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they say human nature doesn't change so don't worry about 'being outdated'
/r/seduction13/05/26 04:16 PM
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youtube "Daygame.com Yad miami reupload" to watch some 'yad stops' and how to run expert level game, apparently
/r/seduction13/05/26 04:09 PM
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sounds like clavicular made this post! :) You are right though haha (although even I wouldn't do leg lengthening. 100k, wheelchair bound for like 6 months, and eventually when fully recovered, you'll never really be able to run properly again or play sport at a decent level). Many of us will always be a bit 'ugly' to be honest. Just means it's an even bigger numbers game (i've ugly and actually have pulled some really hot girls believe it or not. But I won'y BS you. I get rejected 95% of the tim…
/r/seduction11/05/26 12:46 PM
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the same as it takes you to decide whether you'd bang her or not
/r/seduction06/05/26 08:39 PM
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i think he's asking how to make a girl attracted. (answer - not possible)
/r/seduction06/05/26 05:23 PM
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agreed. Pretty much all 'game' concepts are really just various ways of 'flirting'. Flirting is great, but it doesn't MAKE a girl want you. Nothing does. But flirting certainly helps lead attraction to sex. (as does 'game')
/r/seduction06/05/26 12:17 PM
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do more reps and you'll get to the point you know if a girl is interested or not within literally 2 seconds of saying 'hi' lol. Then you get good at not wasting time on girls who aren't into you But for you, if she's not asking you lots of questions, laughing and shit that isn't even funny etc then move on. From what you wrote she probably isn't interested. Doesn't mean you can't shoot your shot and ask her out, though
/r/seduction06/05/26 07:34 AM
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but it doesn’t necessarily make women want you Neither does teasing and push-pull and all of the other tech in the books though lol (as we see in infields of rejections from 'pros')
/r/seduction06/05/26 07:04 AM
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It's attraction. it's the same for men and women Growing up with sisters teaches you that lol.
/r/seduction03/05/26 10:17 AM
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yes. Althoiugh it wasn't always like that. When I first got into it, people were a lot more social and wanting to meet random people etc. My wingman literally got told 'Sorry, I don't talk to randoms. Have a nice night' the other night haha.
/r/seduction03/05/26 08:30 AM
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it's teh way it is. you can of course test the theory out yourself and try to make girls want you using the various tecnqniques that are very easy to find here, and easy to do. But you will find they never work on girls who aren't into you
/r/seduction02/05/26 01:38 PM
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pickup artists never ever sleep with the girls who are not receptive to their approach (give bad bodylanguage, one word answers, don't ask questions etc). They try but fail. It's not possible. She doesn't care about your 'game' if you are not her type
/r/seduction02/05/26 01:10 PM
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you don't DO anything to' attract' them. Either they are attracted to you or they aren't. But if you have game you can turn that attraction into sex
/r/seduction02/05/26 01:00 PM
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I did try to move it forward and said “should grab yochi or something this week” and she replied “maybe hahah” Not much more you can do. You tried to make something happen and she wasn't that receptive. You can try again and literally ask her out, and if she still isn't playing ball just assume she's not interested and move on too a new girl
/r/seduction02/05/26 08:45 AM
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exactly. You are being gaslit lol.
/r/seduction30/04/26 06:55 AM
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sounds like he does. But it doesn't mean girls will be SEXUALLY attracted to you. At all. That's very different
/r/seduction30/04/26 06:55 AM
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I do undestand all of that theory (and 'making' a girl attadcted from zero) but in reality, i've never seen anything like it. More worryingly, i've never see professional coaches be able to do it either lol. I mean, in their own infeilds, you literally never see them bang girls who are clearly not interested. The girls they bang are always very receptive. When they appraoch a girl who clearly isn't attracted/interested, his game techniques never help and the interaction ends up in a rejection of…
/r/seduction29/04/26 08:44 PM
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If she only thinks of you as a friend, that's not going to work. That only works if she's already attracted. yes. And I feel that 'only works if she's attracted' honeslty pretty much applies to ALL game/seduction advice. Not just flirting (pushpull, teasing, blablala) but even things like pre selection/being seen with lots of female friends on a night out for example. I get the theory, but i've seen it fail so many times when guys who out with a load of female friends who all like him, and he th…
/r/seduction29/04/26 07:24 PM
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nah, i've heard the opposite. Good at writing books but girls aren't attracted to him
/r/seduction28/04/26 02:07 PM
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"if it's not a fuck yes, it's a fuck no" pretty much. They used to say 'blow me, or blow me out' I think. I think people struggle with showing intent because there's a very real chance there's NO attraction there Yes. The underlying issue with so much of 'game' is that, in reality, it comes down too attraction. And you simply don't control it. People endlessly try various 'attraction material'/techniques they've read in books on girls who don't seem to be playing ball, but as we see in thousands…
/r/seduction27/04/26 10:26 PM
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that place is hialrious! lol I read it years ago Most of the posters are on chases payroll and get paid to write fake lay reports and articles and stuff all using chases 'style' of game (which is kind of talking to girls like a poet. The 'clever, intellectual' style of 'game'.) Chase himself as never had a single infield. Probably never pulled a girl in his life. All 'marketing'. Pics with pretty (paid) girls etc and then just write books. Same business model as Dan Bacon and and a good few othe…
/r/seduction27/04/26 04:16 PM
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Forcing attraction might get you laid i think the point is that it's not possible. We see 'coaches' try this again and and again (when they open girls who are clearly not interested) and it never ends in a lay. Ever. When the 'pros' bang a girl from a cold approach, it's always on very receptive (attracted) girls
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:15 PM
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RSD used to call what i'm talking about 'hiding your dick' I think lol Maybe that's why Todd went his own way. There was always a clear difference of opinion in what 'game' was between Todd and the other RSD coaches. Todd massively looked down on the other coaches and didn't seem to really consider them to be 'running game', but ive seen so many people get nowhere using Todd's stuff that you can't just 'say the "right" stuff' either. I do'nt think the techniques (such as pushpull etc that are do…
/r/seduction27/04/26 01:53 PM
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yes, all of my lays are from cold approach. But it just seems very different if I decided I wanted to pull my hot neighbour who i've known for years for example. I think in my friends examples, the hot neighbour (or whoever) made it clear he was 'safe' to try to flirt/thought he was handsome or whatever. I think that's probably the answer to my question. People in them environment basically hook up with girls who are giving them the green light I'm not talking about social proof, by the way. The…
/r/seduction25/04/26 12:55 PM
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They're not usually that bad. Most appraoches for me are just a girl looking at me like i'm on fire with a kind of 'ewww...you're NOT my type. Stop talking to me' kind of reaction (and if you try to plow a bit with some pushpull etc, she just kind of ignores you or say she's not interested etc. Not too bad) AlthoughI remember a girl who I thought was giving me IOIs on the dancefloor pushed me super hard when I approached her!! lmao.
/r/seduction21/04/26 02:33 PM
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Dior Sauvage
/r/seduction16/04/26 06:33 PM
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Dior Sauvage
/r/seduction16/04/26 06:33 PM
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height, muscles, good jawline
/r/seduction16/04/26 04:40 PM
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your gut is probably right. When a girl is actually attracted to you, it tends to be painfully obvious.
/r/seduction14/04/26 02:33 PM
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what do you consider to be the most powerful thing in game in terms of attraction. (the thing a guy who she considers to be a 1 out of 10 in looks would say to her to make her super attracted). Pushpull, maybe? (e.g 'you're kind of cute, but i'm not sure about xxx' etc). Or a dhv story? Or something else?
/r/seduction14/04/26 02:31 PM
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Of course! Surely we've all done that. It's not hard to find all of the info (even premium paid content for free) and then test it/say it to girls lol.
/r/seduction13/04/26 07:16 PM
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approaching and effectively finding out if she's interested or not and not wasting time trying to 'seduce' girls who clearly aren't receptive. That's how Boomhauer does it in King of the Hill
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:47 PM
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that sounds like Boomhauer (king of the hill) game. And tbh, it's as good as any other when you concede that cold approach is a game of screening
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:36 PM
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taking care of health and grooming is literally the bare basics lol. ('take a shower, bro!') - It doesn't make a girl attracted. Duh!
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:27 PM
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agree. But she could have 0 attraction towards him because she likes tall, white guys with long hair and ripped body and good facial structure, and the dude is 5ft, fat and black or whatever. It's just insanity in general to think that bodylanguage etc is gonna make her want him (or pushpull if you follow other coaches. Or negs and DHV stories if you follow mysterymethod)
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:17 PM
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I'd say it's the other way around. Game certainly matters, but a guy she has zero physical attraction too will get nowhere with a hot young girl just because he has good body language etc. That's insanity, tbh Interestingly, over the years even the dating coaches themselves have backtracked so much about this stuff. Steve jabba went from 'looks don't matter' (when he was young and good looking and getting results) to becoming a blackpilled, paying sex tourist. RSDJeffy admitted that many girls w…
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:08 PM
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being skinny is fine! Lots of male models are skinny, tall dudes with super handsome faces who girls throw themselves at without needing to say a word
/r/seduction12/04/26 10:25 PM
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one good thing about the gym is that you can become a bit of a fetish for some girls. Like a niche. I learnt about nichemaxxing ages ago and it's kind of true. LIKe some girls will have a thing about black dudes, or huge gym rats, or goth dudes etc. So with the gym, even if you have a face like a foot, there will probably be some girls who will want you simply because you are built like hulk. But yeah, it is what it is. 'game' is simply the icing on the cake (flirting basically. Very easy) that …
/r/seduction12/04/26 09:47 PM
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obviously there's more extreme things (i've seen transformations of guys going form like a 3 too an 8 with surgeries) but that's pretty extreme and hella expensive Depends just how much you care about getting laid. I mean, if that's all one wants, here you can bang extremely hot 18 year old Eastern European hookers for fairly cheap! More economical than surgeries tbh! And Much hotter than girls than the one night stands 99% of PUA's get Outside of that, in terms of attraction, there's really onl…
/r/seduction12/04/26 09:40 PM
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incorrect
/r/seduction12/04/26 07:15 PM
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it's as good advice as anything else in the community, but the problem is always this bit lol : if they’re feeling you Because usually most things you say when you walk up to a girl are good and work when that is in play. And nothing is 'good' enough if you're just not her type and she's not 'feeling you' after you walk up to them So the important stuff is trying to increase your odds of her feeling you (hit the gym etc) However, upvoted
/r/seduction12/04/26 02:58 PM
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i mean, in fairness he might be doing everything perfectly. But running perfect game still doesn't help if there's not physical attraction and you're not her type. Thats why we see so many infields of actual coaches getting rejected by single girls
/r/seduction11/04/26 06:28 PM
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RSDJulien kind of debunked body language too an extent. Did you see his infield where he'd purposely hold his body in really awkward ways and stuff to show guys it doesn't matter much. All it really comes down to is 'are you her type' (attraction is there instantly), and from there, can you flirt a bit without being a weirdo and are you brave enough to actually escalate and make a move when it's clear she's attracted to you Yeah, almost like women, like all people, are individuals instead of a f…
/r/seduction11/04/26 01:29 PM
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I’m not saying it is 100% effective well it's effective when you open the 'yes girls' as Mark Manson calls them in his books 'models'. (the most recommended book on seddit). Thats the thing about game. It's actually super easy. Any guy with normal social skills already does everything you do. But of course it will only lead to sex if you are her type kinda thing
/r/seduction11/04/26 11:37 AM
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lol, don't be silly. Have you never seen uncut infield from actual seduction coaches!!? haha. They get rejected loads. It's only when they open a receptive girl (because she thinks he's hot) that it goes well
/r/seduction11/04/26 10:03 AM
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You still need to be their type haha. Like, if someone isn't good looking at all, he could have the best game on planet earth and know all about pushpull etc, and get rejected a shit tonne (since he's very rarely the girls type/no attraction)
/r/seduction11/04/26 08:25 AM
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what's your method. I've seen a number of coaches in person and it takes them maybe 60 approaches (at least) to get laid. And these guys charge money. I tend to think it's very much a 'numbers game', tbh. e.g if she tihnks you are hot, you can 'game' her (flirt). But if you're not her type, pushpull and being confident and funny and all the other game relaly doesn't help. What is your 'attraction material'? what do you say to MAKE her attracted to you even if she thinks you're ugly for example.
/r/seduction10/04/26 08:22 PM
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So you need to be her type. I mean, flirting on a girl who isn't attracted to you tends to be very unwanted. (in other words, 'game' won't help) ps, I got all of gamblers books recently. You could sum up what's in them books on the back of a cigaratte packet!! Absolutely useless lol
/r/seduction10/04/26 06:46 PM
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i guess it's similar to if you ask here who is the best PUA of all time, some people will say 'mystery'. Others will say he's useless and that his tech is old and antiquated and that Coach kyle or whoever is the best. And then a million people will say coach kyle has zero game adn floats by on good looks etc. There's zero consensus about anything in this community. I think it's because everything works and nothing works, and what 'works' for one person won't necessarily work for someone else
/r/seduction10/04/26 06:04 PM
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learn from every interaction problem is, you don't tend to get any useable feedback from a rejection. And you never actually know the reason. And you can approach an identical way, one girl is super receptive, one hates you. IN reality, it's very likely you just weren't her type. Not that you smiled too much or not enough or one of the other unlimited number of potential variables
/r/seduction10/04/26 05:01 PM
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That goes double for the PUA guys online whose brands depend on being excellent with women and who sell being able to teach you to do the same over a bootcamp weekend. As always: don't believe the hype, man. I realised that all of the coaches are no better than me when I met up with community guys in London lol. It's 100% a numbers game. This is a business. Everyone is full os $hit lol. You approach a girl. If she likes you, it's easy and whatever you say will tend ot be good enough. If you are …
/r/seduction10/04/26 02:25 PM
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agree. it's really not complicated at all. I think I could be a coach myself tbh! I think i get as good results as any coach (if we had each others bodies or wahtever)
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:29 PM
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he probably implemented it right (london day game is easy. yad stop, cold read, compliment etc) - he just approached 'no girls' who weren't physically attracted to him. Need serious volume until you find the 'yes girls' if you aren't blessed with good looks tbh
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:06 PM
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this, outside of scammy marketing, it's just a game of volume and finding the girls who are into you. One can't force attraction to happen, as infield for 'pros' show
/r/seduction10/04/26 12:56 PM
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ahhh, yeah, that's a bit different, and that's fair enough! I've been there too. You can never know for sure of course whether it was attraction or something else, but I was in a bar last week and caught an absolute bombshell looking at me and I didn't do anything lol.
/r/seduction03/04/26 09:28 PM
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Even though I've have my fair share of not approaching girls I wanted too, I HAVE also approached so many girls. And so when I think 'man, I wish i'd approached that stunner', I instantly think 'well, in fairness, I just saved myself a VERY likely rejection, and so my ego is in a better place that it would otherwise be' lol Like, unless you are an extremley good looking dude, there's like a 99.9% chance you didn't 'miss out' by not approaching some absolutely gorgeous young girl
/r/seduction03/04/26 02:49 PM
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disagree
/r/seduction31/03/26 09:33 PM
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yes. From waht i've seen, even with teh 'pros', the actual skill is more in spotting which girls are into you! I've never in my life seen some sort of special skill where someone can approach a girl who doesn't want to speak to him because he's not her type, and then use some magical seduction techniques and win her over. Even with the coaches who have infield, this is literally unheard of (you only ever hear this claim from coaches etc who don't have infield footage but are selling books etc). …
/r/seduction30/03/26 10:30 PM
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There's a famous seduction coach called Paul Janka. He kept all of his stats and at one point they were broken down a few times, including by 'pickupartistmindset' (popular dating website at the time). Anyway, his approach to lay ratio was said to be 1.5% 67 approaches to get 1 lay. And this was a guy who taught seduction for a living. Not to mention he was a fair bit better looking than anyone who would have bought his courses and books. So you can imagine the sort of success someone who isn't …
/r/seduction30/03/26 09:17 PM
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i've experienced this. I used to think it was covid meaning that the social-ness of people (in a country where it's already considered a bit 'weird' to talk to strangers) was pushed down to all time lows Although it could also be coincidence in part. i.e in that time of covid etc, I got worse looking (fatter, wrinklier, balder etc lol), and as such girls just aren't interesed (despite game. In reality, cold approach is basically tinder.)
/r/seduction28/03/26 02:32 PM
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there is no formula. 'Game' doesn't make attraction happen either. As we see in many failed PUA infields lol.
/r/seduction27/03/26 09:01 PM
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I have a tall very good looking friend (probably realistically in top 1% and thus a 10/10 and will get IOIs regularly from 8+ , it’s insane. Very blatant ones too. I have one of those friends lol. Its brutal. I think you have to be realistic. Do you really think you can compete with him by using the stuff you read about in pickup manuals and the techniques (like teasing, good body language, disqualifying her etc. I've never seen it work for anybody to be quite honest)
/r/seduction26/03/26 05:58 PM
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true
/r/seduction25/03/26 06:49 PM
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exactly this! People underestimate just how beyond stupid lots of people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:19 AM
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i think this is true. I always read so much about shit tests and stuff from the pickup community, but boy oh boy, my brother got all the good looking genetics in my family, and the way girls react to his pickup attempts is nothing close to what these experts say it's like. They are doing all they can to make sure he likes them and stays from the second he says 'hi', usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:16 AM
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looks good! yum
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:27 PM
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teasing girls and using pushpull. Things like 'you and me wouldn't get along'.
/r/seduction21/03/26 11:11 AM
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i guess you'd need to approach girls who like overweight guys.
/r/seduction21/03/26 11:10 AM
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answer my initial one first that you dodged
/r/seduction21/03/26 11:05 AM
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You think Todd V's attraction material is good enough and should work?
/r/seduction21/03/26 10:46 AM
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