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Yes but adjusted for inflation worth less in todays dollars. Money has diminished in importance since woman can make their own and are not completely. Dependent on men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:35 AM
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Then why are there no female incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:16 AM
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No because eventually men will see the women he dates without makeup on. It’s not even close to the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:03 AM
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Suuuuurrreee. Maybe go outside every now and then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:02 AM
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Okay I agree with your point, but your taking my position out of context. My point is that relatively speaking, women back then were lucky to find a good man simply because they had such little bargaining power within a male dominated system. Now that the playing field is more level men are failing to adapt. I’m saying that internally women always had high standards but we’re just forced to lower them…and they did. Had the playing field been level from the start they would not have been forced t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:00 AM
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Most men don’t clean and don’t wear makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:50 AM
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I’m not saying that men are terrible, they are just the victims of their higher sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:50 AM
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Tiger woods is a celebrity and multimillionaire. That like comparing your average effrontery next door to Victoria secret model. Yes they will have more options, but in both scenarios the average person can still find a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:22 AM
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So then why is it that when men include dick size in their tinder bios that women are LESS likely to swipe right on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:20 AM
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Probably, but if men are smart enough to know that super hero movies don’t reflect real life why do they think that porn reflects real sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:19 AM
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Upvoting so the incels can see this and stop frothing at the mouth
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:18 AM
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Okay I should rephrase, never been asked to provide one before having sex for the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:17 AM
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Also why would this phenomenon only occur in Finland and not the other Nordic countries with high taxes and social safety nets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:00 AM
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I suggest you reread the comments on her. Too many guys think that you need to have a big dick in order to date
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:56 AM
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That cannot be true. The average height for a woman in America is 5’3”. A guy whose 5’8” could easily date a woman whose 5’2”. He’ll he could even date a woman at 5’3”-5’5” provided that she isn’t shallow or doesn’t have extremely high heels
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:55 AM
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No because then instead of dating a girl whose 5’3” you date someone whose shorter
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:45 AM
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Whose experience have i invalidated?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:42 AM
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Where did you find this? I’m very interested to read up on this further
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:40 AM
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Again you provide no sources with regards to the heritability rate. Where did you get these numbers? Also I wouldn’t say that women care deeply about height. The average height for a woman is 5’3” and the average height for a man is 5’9”. Yes the average woman might find taller guys more appealing, but even if she dates a man whose average height he will still be taller than her in heels so it’s a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:37 AM
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I just get off my phone and go out into the real world every now and then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:35 AM
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Source that intelligence is more heritable than height? Also, women can have whatever standards they want. If a woman is shallow because she won’t date you because of your height you probably don’t want to go out with a girl like that anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:28 AM
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Because it’s not even close to impossible. If a man like that would go to the gym, be a nice person, and didn’t have ridiculous standards he could easily find a girlfriend. Yes the 6’2” guy with 6 pack abs and great job will have an easier time dating, but not to the point where average men/below average men can’t have a healthy dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:26 AM
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No because I despise pickup artists/people who make money off male insecurity and refuse to support them financially
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:50 AM
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Yes absolutely it happens all the time. Guys will lower their standards at a bar for a ONS but be more picky about their wife…at least they should
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:49 AM
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I’m saying that the average guy can get laid if you put the effort in. You’re saying that there things outside a man’s control. I agree that it will make things a little harder, but far from impossible. Im not conceding anything you just misunderstand my point. To be clear a 5’8” man making 50k a year with a below average penis can find a girlfriend. Men like this even get married and start families. Yes it’s harder but not impossible and the US census data/law of large numbers supports this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:48 AM
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Why is that the case? Because want sex more than women do. If a woman really wants to have sex she’ll lower her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:31 AM
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Lmao bro I’m dude check out my post history
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:30 AM
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Ok fair point, but at the same time these women would been easily impressed by a man with a good job and much more so back then than today which was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:30 AM
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Yes I meant social media. Women have more choices now then before, but only in theory. No man is maintaining multiple relationships with girls on instagram. At best a girl will meet up with a guy for a drink and fuck him. That does not take her off the market. Also this works for men too. Men can cast a wider net and slide into a girls DMs to get dates so they have more options as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:28 AM
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If a woman won’t marry you because you’re 6ft tall or don’t make 100k she probably isn’t the type of woman spying should marry anyways. Likewise, unless you have micro penis (which is like 1/1000 men) penis size is a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:23 AM
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Sorry they were forced to lower their standards. Now they don’t have to as much
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:21 AM
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Or men who are more traditional could just choose better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:20 AM
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They don’t, it just doesn’t mean as much and the bar is higher. Ex: in the 1900s earning 50k was impressive whereas now the cutoff is 100k
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:19 AM
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We’re essentially saying the same thing. Women were artificially forced to lower their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:33 AM
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No women are entitled to their standards and it’s not realistic. They can set the bar as high as they want, and have every right to do so since everyone is entitled to their preferences. Women only just recently had the freedom to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:30 AM
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Yes men got an artificial boost in their statues compared to women and that was wrong…I’m not sure what your point is. If the attraction is based on that it status it was effectively a lie and they shouldn’t have married to begin with. Their children becoming incels is nature rebalancing itself. If there are less women that men are attracted to today, that means that women never really free to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:29 AM
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Some of the shine might be gone from traditional gender roles, but again that just means that men have to adapt. If women had complete freedom in the 1800s I would bet that most wouldn’t want to be housewives and homemakers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:24 AM
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I’m not forgetting….that’s my point of how women can raise their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:22 AM
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I don’t know off the top of my head, but guess like 20-30% of men in their 40s will 100k
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:19 AM
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Interesting did not think about that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:18 AM
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No men always had to be attractive to women, socially made just gave women more options
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:17 AM
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Don’t worry I forgive you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:06 AM
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Are men turning away from traditional roles or has the economy changed? Back in the day most men worked in manually intensive labour, today the richest men work on computers. Times have changed, but men can still be gainfully employed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:06 AM
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It’s very difficult a man in their 20s to make 100k. By the time their in their 40s it’s not that rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:02 AM
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Because they have a higher sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:00 AM
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Men greatly over estimate how much height and money will help them. Also women don’t care about dick size unless it’s too big or too small. No woman asks to see a dick pic before sleeping with a man. No a progressive man can marry a progressive woman and have children
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:56 AM
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The problem is that women have only recently started to out pace men in college education which turns leads to them having a higher salary. When they entered the labour force in the 1970s, there was still discrimination in place and they were earning less than men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:54 AM
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Because they feel entitled to a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:51 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:44 AM
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Not all men want to procreate, some just want sex. You don’t need to have height, stick size, millions of dollars to attract women. Also men don’t have to adopt more progressive values, they can find more conservative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:43 AM
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Dating isn’t a feminist issue, men are just not self-aware
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:38 AM
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A single woman would not have survived the industrial revolution. Most could not have completed a lot of the factory men would have been asked to do, and even if they could it’s not like they would have been able to raise a child on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:34 AM
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Only if she’s open to children. If the possibility is there to settle down and start a family i would consider it to be a huge plus, especially if we have daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:38 PM
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If you’re not Asian and you go to an Asian country you still have the exotic foreigner advantage.I guarantee you these women don’t give a shit about culture. Also Japan is an industrialized western capitalistic country so your culture argument fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:12 PM
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It depends entirely on where these American men go. If a pan American man goes to Canada or Western Europe his dating prospects are the same. If he goes to Asia or Latin America he does better because he’s in a poor country. The issue here is how is the man in question doing relative to his peers. Women want the top men, so instead of men improving on themselves they decide to lower the difficulty and play the dating game on easy mode by visiting a non western country. The principle hasn’t chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:27 PM
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I think the problem is you, and peer group you’re referring to, are all college educated. Given the fact that there are more women in college than men in college it’s naturally going to be harder to meet men in those types of environments. Also, I think people looking to be in a committed relationship in their early 20s is incredibly rare. Most people aren’t serious about finding a life partner yet and are still working on the skills that will help the, get through life; cooking, cleaning, time …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:46 AM
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The problem with the “do better” mentality is that it effectively becomes a race to the bottom. As someone who does okay in dating, I see some of the hoops my non-college educated friends have to jump through and it’s disturbing. The capitalistic system effectively turns everything into a competition. If everyone gives there 100% effort nothing effectively changes, because there will still only be a few winners. As a result, in the last generation we went from college education being a luxury to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:32 AM
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Respectfully disagree, variety is the spice of life. Some girls are into the party scene, some really like to have a chill night in, some are very outdoorsy…etc…you see where I’m going with this. It’s very rare to find one person that shares all your likes and dislikes. So long as you genuinely like each of the women you’re seeing/dating I see no problem with it. Especially if you don’t want to be stuck doing something alone because you don’t have a partner. Eventually you will have to make a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:25 AM
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I actually somewhat agree, by not allowing men to climb the socioeconomic ladder society has made it that much harder for men to take on that provider role and become an attractive partner. As a result the pool of dateable men is shrinking from one generation to the next. Luckily my degree is in STEM and will pay for itself, but given how high the barriers to entry are in these fields (smart, good work ethic, can afford college…etc.) living a good comfortable life is slowly becoming the exceptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:18 AM
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Build confidence and try to be more empathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:11 AM
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That’s incel talk
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 04:57 AM
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That makes no sense. Unless he’s paying her, attraction is the reason women have casual sex with men
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 04:36 AM
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Ok women preferring attractive men is not what I take issue with. Men prefer attractive women. The problem is that you’re implying that unless a guy is super attractive he’s completely fucked and that being average is a death sentence. That’s incel talk
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 04:22 AM
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Okay well maybe the sample of men that women had to choose from was not representative, maybe the women had notoriously high standards, maybe the pictures taken of these weren’t the most photogenic….etc. There’s literally tons of things that can bias a study. If the average woman did not find the average man attractive humankind would not reproduce. We’re living in a world of dating apps and hookup culture, it’s literally never been easier to get laid
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 03:51 AM
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So evolution is propaganda to you?
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 03:43 AM
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I’m saying that preferences change over time. Also you failed to acknowledged that swipes =/= real life attraction or compatibility
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 03:42 AM
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Instead of taking things personally, you could just admit that it has merits and would be beneficial. There’s a reason why humans like this
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 03:22 AM
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Those studies are incredibly dated. Also swipes =/= attractiveness, the real world doesn’t work that way
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 03:20 AM
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Source?
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 03:17 AM
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Again I’m not say that women can’t have sex and marry them, but they should not be procreating. Society would be better off if these guys became steps dads to children fathered by chads
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 08:54 PM
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Ok just because someone are willing to compromise their integrity over a guys looks doesn’t mean that the majority do
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 08:53 PM
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That’s not a reputable source, it’s not even peer reviewed
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 07:50 PM
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Or we could have the best of both worlds if the men at the bottom just accepted their lower rank on the totem pole and still acted as good citizens and adoptive fathers
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 07:50 PM
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So you think a guy can be asshole and still get laid?
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 07:48 PM
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No evolution does, only the top 40% of men in human history reproduced
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 07:47 PM
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Your very ignorant if think that. Many cucks have high powered jobs in the corporate in the corporate world and are looking to be in a position as a sub so they can requinlish some control/pressure. I’m not exactly sure what you mean by stats, but I’m 6’1” and 8% body fat
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 07:47 PM
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Evolution agrees with me
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 07:38 PM
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What’s your problem? Personality plays a role in dating
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 07:37 PM
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Not getting what you want =/= settling. I’m guys would love to marry models, but that doesn’t mean that every man who doesn’t is unhappy
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 07:37 PM
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Yeah as the bull lol. The hotwife is a woman who has sex with men other than her husband
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 07:35 PM
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More attractive = better dating life = less unhappy incels
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 01:29 AM
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Because you’re selfishly focusing on yourself rather than putting the collective first
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 01:15 AM
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You’re right it’s not, the standards are higher because many of the women there already have boyfriends and partners and so as a man you have to bring something to the table their partner can’t (penis size, abs, charm…etc.) in order to be competitive.
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 01:13 AM
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I did you guys are just coping. If every woman wanted a 6’2” Chad the human race would not reproduce
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 01:10 AM
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Even the ugliest man could get laid if he took care of himself, was a nice guy, and adjusted his standards
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 01:07 AM
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The competition is actually HIGHER at swinger clubs because these woman could easily get laid on tinder if they really wanted to. I’m addition to being good looking, you have to flirt with her and convince the husband that you’re not a POS and will keep his wife safe. He showed as part of couple and they swapped. He fucked another man’s girl and the other man fucked his wife. I have no idea what he did the rest of the evening, I don’t attend these events for the men lol
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 01:07 AM
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Your just cherry picking what you want to hear. If I tell you a short guy at swinger party had sex with a girl, you just call it degeneracy to invalidate the fact that men can have short term flings. It’s not as if hookup culture is all that pure either lol
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 01:02 AM
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The average height for a guy is 5’9”. The same logic applies if he’s 5’8”, 5’7”…5’5”….etc. 5’5” is already like bottom 10% for male height. Also source that 70% of women reject men who are 5’9”? The human race Luke reproduce if they did. You just conveniently ignored the real life example of the short dude at a swingers club I saw participate in a couple swap and get laid. I’m not saying that shorter men don’t have a tougher time time dating, but it’s probably because they’re going after girls t…
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 12:51 AM
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Women don’t know the difference between 5’11 or 6” there is no data to supposed that they do. So long as she can wear heals and the guy is taller than her, everything is fine. If a 5’3” girl wears 3 inch heals she’s 5’6”. Meanwhile the averse guy is 5’9” so there’s no problem. If a guy is shorter, than he he just has to go after women slightly shorter. See point #1, men below average height can have causal sex in tinder or one night stands in bars. Obviously I used Kevin hart as an example, but …
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 12:34 AM
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So you’re going to tell me that unless a man is above average height that they can’t have casual sex? Not unless those short men have something else to offer. If a man is short, but has nice smile and a great job he can still get married. There are plenty of short men with status (Kevin Hart) who are drowning in ladies. Also, it might be worth considering that it’s beneficial for the human race in the long run if short men didn’t reproduce. If chads went around fucking more girls the average att…
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 12:21 AM
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Height is a factor, but let not pretend that short guys never get laid either. If they didn’t short men would not exist
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:51 PM
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Stats?
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:49 PM
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Maybe some men just need to realize that they’re low value and don’t deserve a woman. A relationship isn’t a human right. If everyone is telling you that you’re the problem…maybe they might be right
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:44 PM
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Not into men, but good for you if you are. The point is to emphasize the benefits of the collective rather than the selfishness of individuals. Lower status men can still have sex, but the humane thing to do would be to discourage them from procreating. So long as they have a wife and family it shouldn’t matter.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:28 PM
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I’m not saying that lower status men can’t have sex, they can. But for the good of the human race they just shouldn’t procreate.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:22 PM
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JFL? Also what do you have against nonmonogamy?
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:16 PM
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No I’m presenting the merits of nonmonogamy
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:12 PM
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I thought that the point of this sub was to debate various aspects of sex and dating
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:11 PM
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Regardless of whether or not they adopt. Even if just the western liberal countries do it would still produce a net positive. Also it’s obviously easier said than done, but if more low status men accepted cuckolding society would be better off
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 10:13 PM
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Ok fine they can adopt it too. I don’t see the problem. More hot people hurray!
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 10:05 PM
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U/antisocial_nihilist why did you turn your replies off? Also, the rules don’t apply to user they’re the ones giving birth. If a 10/10 guy bangs a 4/10 they still produce a 6/10 which is better than average and the fore still beneficial to the human race. We don’t need as many men to procreate, but we need women too….therefore they are inherently worth more.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 09:59 PM
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What does high populations have to do with it? Also why can’t this just be a western/American thing?
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 09:55 PM
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No says they have to be single moms. Tons of dads out there are willing to adopt kids…maybe they should put the human race first and let their wife procreate with their looks match.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 09:41 PM
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I’m talking about the American population though. Good looking men have more sex. So for the good of the human species women should follow their biological impulses to procreate with them.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 09:25 PM
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But do white women in America even have that strong of a racial preference when it comes to dating? Given how women are more sympathetic than men and more likely to care about social justice issues like discrimination, why would they discriminate in dating?
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 06:20 AM
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Just because a country is diverse doesn’t explain why ethnic preferences arise in dating. If people are exposed to other cultures and ethnicities they shouldn’t feel judgemental towards them.
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 06:19 AM
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No one said you had too, I’m just saying I don’t think it’s as widespread as many people on here suggest
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 04:00 AM
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Then why do so many people on this sub lament the fact that they’re not Caucasian?
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 04:00 AM
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How are white men over represented in terms of getting laid?
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 02:28 AM
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I don’t think race is correlated with attractiveness. There are good looking people of all ethnicities.
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 02:26 AM
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Okay, I generally agree with this sentiment. However, I don’t how it relates to the supposed preference for white men in dating
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 01:44 AM
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Source that humans are universally more attracted to light skin? Also, I wouldn’t call a 60-40 split a big enough disparity for white men to “dominate” the market
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 01:43 AM
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I personally found Boston to be pretty good. While the night life isn’t the best, the city is full students so tons of opportunities to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:47 AM
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Women generally already have an abundance of option. There is no need to move to have a healthy dating life.
/r/AllPillDebate08/03/23 07:42 AM
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I’m not saying that it’s not seen as taboo. I’m saying that the fact that’s it’s taboo allows them to make more money. Even if they charge more, the studio also makes more money. Ergo the proportion stays the same. It’s not as if they don’t want to work with black people, they just understand that the studio makes more off them and they want to be compensated. Also I find you being very hypocritical. You’re a black dude with a fetish/obsession with dating only white girls because black girls are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:41 AM
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Ok I think you misunderstood what I said. I’m not that moving cities is a bad idea, I’m saying that doing so just to meet girls is a bad idea. If you’re someone who wants to work in finance, and loves the corporate hustle culture, then by all means move to NYC. You’ll have more opportunities and find a social circle much more easily, which will translate into a better life. Conversely, if you’re a portfolio manager at Goldman Sachs and already have a good life and social circle in NYC you’re cra…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:20 PM
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Wtf?!? That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The Latino population dates all the way back to the Mayans and the Aztecs. They are in way part of the same ethnicity as Europeans
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 07:01 AM
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What about Latinos? Pretty sure they out number black Americans
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 06:40 AM
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I tend to agree
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 06:08 AM
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I think that depends on what part of the US you live in.
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 06:06 AM
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Disagree, there’s big difference between the connotations behind the names Tyrone and Omar.
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 05:40 AM
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I disagree with the concept or the generalization of how difficult it is for the average man to meet a partner. Most women and end up marrying average guys because again most women are average. Eventually in the long run the Chads will marry Stacies, which means that Brads will eventually find their partners once the Chads in his age bracket and social circle are off the market. I also disagree with the idea that race plays a significant role in determining how attractive someone is. Obviously i…
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 05:29 AM
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Right, but the fact that Chad and Tyrone are so often over used suggests that other attractive men from other ethnicities are not represented. Given the fact that the west is a very liberal society, one that actively condones racism, we shouldn’t be perpetuating the stereotypes that attractiveness is tied to race. Men of all ethnicities can be equally attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 05:21 AM
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Because it’s a stereotype of a black men, that doesn’t portray them in good life. It’s often associated with the gangster sub culture
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 05:19 AM
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Ok but if the BBC fetish was so prevalent wouldn’t black men have an easier dating than white men?
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 05:17 AM
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My brother is a student at McGill. We are from Switzerland originally so we speak French quite well and he says that it’s a huge asset. There are people who speak English in Montreal, and so it’s not impossible to get buy without it, but generally speaking your increase your dating pool quite significantly if you know French. According to his friends who don’t know French, the problem with trying to get by only in English is that your not part of an established social group. All the people who g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 03:05 AM
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What on earth are you talking about? No one judges women for dating black guys or minorities. Again there are tons of men who go out with white women and it’s never really an issue. If anything the rates of interracial marriages between black men and white women have become more common. White women who do porn are not discriminating against black men. They are charging more money because those scenes are more popular. They are essentially just taking the same proportion of the profits they other…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:25 AM
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You realize that not everyone dates people and season as parental figures right. Lots of people, both men and women, can go out with people they find attractive that would not make their ideal parental figure. Moreover, lots of women these days don’t even want to have kids at all. I can’t speak to what your experience is like as a black man living in United States. That being said, given how progressive or liberal most white women tend to be, and all the negative stereotypes that surround white …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:31 AM
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Okay, but that’s only normal. White women prefer to date white men and black women prefer to date black men. I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove here. Also, why are you so obsessed with white women? You realize that there are Latina, Asian, South East Asian, and Middle Eastern right? The world isn’t just black and whites people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:47 PM
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I don’t think I understand. Are you saying that Black college athletes are dating average white women? That makes no sense, these guys are like mini celebretities and some of the most popular people at their college
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:12 PM
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What are you talking about? Of course guys would prefer a monogamous relationship with an average whirl than to share a Stacy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:09 PM
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Neither gender benefits in the long run since women would rather have a Brad to themselves than be forced to share a Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:06 PM
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Who the hell is Dr. Umar? He sounds like a self-hating racist. There are tons of black male celebrities who date white women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:58 PM
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Google womens reaction to mens day and you’ll see end posts and YouTube videos of them freaking out over it. Also as guy I’ll be the first to say that it’s a stupid idea to have gendered days
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:56 PM
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Not to the point where the vast majority of men end up sexless virgins who never get married or have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:48 PM
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But why though? Everyone knows that men and women are different, why do we need a special day to highlight that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:40 PM
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You’re being dishonest. The majority of men have no issue with women’s day however the majority of women oppose men’s day. Both genders need to stop trying to argue whose more oppressed and move forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:38 PM
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It’s not the number, it’s the idea that only high status men get girls. Not true, otherwise men in the middle class and below would never get married
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:37 PM
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How is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:35 PM
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The correct take is to just not have Mens Day nor Womens Day. Both of them are shit and do nothing by cause conflict between the genders. Instead get rid of both and replace it with Be Nice Person Day. /End Rant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:07 PM
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It happens, just not as often as you would like. Instead of complaining why not try doing something about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:57 PM
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Even if that’s the case, I don’t see how comparing the world we love to the past does anyone any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:49 PM
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I’m not sure what world you’re living in, but ONS are still a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:07 PM
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Do you have such an article?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 10:01 AM
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That might be the case in the short term, but given that most women want children and family someday they’re only options are either going to be settling for someone who makes less money than them or dating a man who is significantly older.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:49 AM
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Disagree, how much money someone makes has nothing to do with their success in dating. If it is the women they’re seeing are very materialistic and probably not worth going out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:47 AM
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Okay I think we’re both saying the same thing. There’s no specific number that women are looking for and so long as you’re not impoverished women don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:33 AM
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It’s actually becoming more and more common for women to put earn men though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:51 AM
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As of right now the majority of men make money than women so it’s not that rare for that type of dynamic to arise, especially since it’s only recently that women have started to over take men in college education. Funny enough women aged 19-29 earn more on average than men so things are likely going to start changing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:50 AM
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My point is that women in Texas won’t care if a guy makes 90k so long as he lives a good life and has his shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:48 AM
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So if men want to have sex, just commit to the women you actually would do those things with
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:55 AM
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A couple things here. 1) the studies you cited are between 7-10 years old so things have clearly changed in the last decade 2) Black women actually demonstrated a strong preference for black men. Just because they tend to be over weight doesn’t mean that slim black women would prefer white men. There’s no evidence of that. 3) Just because non-black women had a preference for white men, doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t date a black guy. Pretty sure that black men going out with white women is one …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:52 AM
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Agains the only source you have is OK Cupid, a fringe dating site that is probably disproportionately populated with less attractive people (since most conventionally attractive people use Tinder). Also dating apps are 3/4 male so women have a N abundance of options whereas men are forced to settle. In the real world things don’t work that way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:45 AM
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No shirt women prefer tall muscular men. Most guys also prefer tall thin women with big boobs. That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t date a short woman with small boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:13 AM
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Okay that’s one dating site. It’s even one of the more fringe ones that probably attracts less attractive people than Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:05 AM
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No that’s complete bs. Most people marry at a similar socio economic level. I also used to work as a bar tender during undergrad and dated a girl who was also a server/bottle girl so that’s completely untrue. Family court puts the interest of the child first. If men are not custody in family court maybe they should be better fathers. The point of marriage is to get children and both the husband and wife benefit from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:05 AM
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What evidence do you have to support this? The human race would literally die out if that was true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:02 AM
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Right and instead of becoming incels they should go the gym, take a shower, and get their shit together. It’s easy to be confident when you have confidence in yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:01 AM
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Even if your 2nd paragraph is true, which I seriously doubt, why would a man’s career make a difference if they are already self-sufficient. Before meeting my current gf, the last time I went on a first date the girl was the one who paid for my drink at the bar and even refused my offer to split the bill. She was a hardcore feminist so definitely not a common occurrence, but I hate to break it to you but money doesn’t matter as much you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:55 AM
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This is how I met my current gf that I’ve been dating for the last 1.5 years, I went up to her after class and introduced myself. shocked pikachu face We’re both in school and in the same program so I’m not smarter or have any extra status points. I’m debt financing my education and have no money. If anything she’s knows this and is cool going on dates that don’t cost money (watching the sunset at the beach, going jogs, hanging out with me and my dog at the dog park…etc.). I will acknowledge tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:51 AM
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What is the difference between a woman a man would casually date and hook up with as opposed to someone they would be in a relationship with? It obviously can’t be looks because they’re already sleeping together. It obviously can’t be personality because they’re casually dating which I would assume includes hanging out. I’m having a difficult time understanding what you’re trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:45 AM
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If women today are independent and earn their own money why on earth would they settle for less attractive guy who also makes money? By definition they are self-sufficient and soul the other guy having money shouldn’t move the needle all that much. Also what evidence do you have that suggests that women only want men who are in the top 20%? If that was the case then how do you explain all the men who are average or below in terms of height finding a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:43 AM
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That’s a bold claim. LTRs are definitely worth it when you find the right partner and contrary to popular belief sex is often better with someone you care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:38 AM
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I highly that the US follows Eurocentric beauty standards given how diverse their population is. There’s no evidence to suggest that black men have a harder time than white men, especially when you consider that black population in the US is growing while the white one is shrinking. Clearly that wouldn’t happen if black men couldn’t get into relationships/get laid. 2nd point, if you like most of the US follows Eurocentric beauty standards than why not just date black women? Lastly, I would disag…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:36 AM
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You realize that you could move? Also, aren’t black men stereotyped as being more manly/athletic than white men? I live in the US now but was born and raised in Switzerland for most of my life so I’m not sure if this mentality is still prevalent, but if it is you should have no problem, especially considering how liberal the US is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:17 AM
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Bro what? Your entire post suggest the opposite. You’re saying that most men Who get casual sex or not “settling“ to be in a relationship with the women they’re sleeping with. Then why wouldn’t they just get into a relationship with the women that are on their level? That right there suggests that if they really did have an abundance of options that they would just date the women they actually found attractive rather than engage in short term sex. Also, I need to stop with this whole top 20% non…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:13 AM
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What?!? Men here routinely bitch about how hard it is to get casual sex and how it’s unfair for them to have to pursue relationships in order to gain sexual experience. I completely agree that a healthy long-term relationship is superior to anything that casual sex can offer, but at the same time a lot of young men and I was guilty of this myself when I was in my early 20s only prioritize casual sex. If anything, reading some of the comments from the men on the sub made me want to take a shower.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:09 AM
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Here’s the date if you’re curious. Only 13% of individuals make 100k but according the OP it’s not that rare lol https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-Americans-make-more-than-100-000-a-year
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:07 AM
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I agree I just made the joke about incels in regards the guy who posted the parent comment and suggested that 100k is the minimum a man needs to get a date. I’m also curious about income distribution in the US so if you find it let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:05 AM
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You’re a troll. There’s no way this is real. I’m only 2 inches taller than you and live in Miami Fl - one of the places in the US that’s disproportionately comprise of young, fit, attractive people and have no issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:04 AM
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According to google only 13% of Americans make 100k so it’s pretty damn rare: https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-Americans-make-more-than-100-000-a-year Also, your point about high cost of living areas essentially in validates the discussion. If someone makes 100 K per year in San Francisco they are still affectively poor. Which in turn means they’ll probably have a hard time paying rent, going out for dinner, or going on dates. To reiterate, this essentially means that women don’t care ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:01 AM
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Ok let me understand this, you make 100k+, are in great shape, have nice hair, white teeth, no deformities and women still won’t date you? Unless youre under 5ft tall there’s no way this is real
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:31 AM
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The average in the US is 30k when you count part time and season workers (I.e. college students). Among full time workers the average annual salary is closer to 45-50k. I’m all for debunking incels, but let’s be honest here, no guy is flexing their summer job at Disney Land while he’s in college to get laid. I still don’t think that the job you have is all that significant, but to keep things an apples to apples comparison the focus should only be on full time workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:19 AM
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I was born in Europe and I think that a lot of Americans don’t realize that women just say “6 ft” because it’s a nice round number. Case in point, back home I have friends in Switzerland who say that they’re 180cm in order to be more appealing to women, but when you convert it to the imperial system it ends up 5’11”. Also, I’m pretty sure that height preference is relative and changes from woman to woman simply because they themselves are of various height. I’m 6’1” and currently dating a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:15 AM
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How does the fact that women make their own money suggests that they select partners by income? Also what about one night stands or hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:03 AM
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What is 25 FFMI? Also why do you think the amount of money you make is relevant? Also there are other things you can do. See a dermatologist if you have acne, get hair transplant if your bald, see a dentist to fix you teeth…etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:00 AM
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Most women today are independent and make their own money though. Moreover, if a woman asks “what do you do for a living?” and you say “I work in HR for a midsized company” I don’t see how that communicates how much money you make. You role could be anywhere from first year HR agent to VP of HR. Unless you show up wearing really cheap clothes or super fancy ones no woman is going to have any idea how much money you make. Most guys fall in the middle and most women know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:59 AM
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I’m actually not sure if he even knows how rare it is to make 100k/yr. If that was the requirement all women have for selecting a partner the human race would go extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:54 AM
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Bro why are you making this a discussion about money? When I was single (roughly 2 years ago) none of the women I met at the bar, coffee shop, beach, tinder…etc. would ever ask for my annual income and/or tax returns. Women don’t care about how much money you actually make, they just want to make sure that you’re gainfully employed and can take care of yourself. Also, if a woman is only going out with you because your job title or earning potential, maybe you shouldn’t even want to date those ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:02 AM
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Women are wising up and realizing that casual sex isn’t worth it and are waiting for a long-term relationship but men just want to fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:46 PM
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If attractive people, (above average looking) exist, then that logically it means that below average looking also have to exist. The problem is that people think that being unattractive is a death sentence. Every guy wants to date the 10/10 girl, but really only the select few can (either 10/10 guys or 8s who can compensate through status, money, sense of humour, height…etc.). 90% of people’s problems on here would be solved if they just dated according to level or even a bit below and/or commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:44 PM
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The red pill only attracts certain types of men. Eventually the “movement” or “philosophy” behind it will have captured all of its potential target market. At the point the men within it will realize that it’s nothing but a bunch of crap, aside from the self-improvement mantra, and leave. It will probably lead to healthier dating in the future to be completely honest. Tl;dr: red pill will continue to grow to capture all of the desperate and lonely men. Eventually it will peak and then suffer a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:36 PM
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You absolutely can. If anything having genuine common interests is a huge plus. I would say that it depends on how you about it. Lifting weights to be more toned can absolutely be feminine, but increasing the size of your upper body might work against you. Same thing with camping. If your swinging an ax to chop fire wood it I would say that’s more manly, but if you enjoy roasting marshmallows by the fire I don’t see anything inherently masculine about that.
/r/RedPillWomen05/03/23 07:37 PM
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The last time I lived in the suburbs I was in high school so I can’t comment on what meeting face to face like is there. That being said, there still have to some social areas (coffee shops, malls, parks nearby…etc.) nearby. I’m not saying that approaching people in person is easy, it’s not, but the opportunities are there. For those that are too shy dating apps still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:43 PM
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I believe that both extremes are bad. If I met a girl who was virgin we likely wouldn’t be compatible because our views on sex are so radically different. It would also indicate that a woman is ether very uptight. If a girl was an absolute hoe and everyone has had their turn with her, the she doesn’t respect herself enough. While I wouldn’t judge a woman for having a ONS or two, doing this multiple times indicates a proclivity to risk taking/thrill seeking behaviour I would not be down for. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:57 AM
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I actually think that most people meet online now so having a social circle isn’t even necessary. If anything given how often people move around, its probably rarer than you think. Case in point, I went to undergrad out of state, doing med school in a different state, and will probably end up living/settling down in another state. Being in school definitely helps, but most of the girls I dated never came from pre-existing social circles or acquaintances. I did my undergrad in Boston so there wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:44 AM
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