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Do whatever works as long as you’re not lying to yourself. I was calling out bullshit. But I’m no PUA. I’m just a man. Pussy ain’t shit to me and it comes easily when I want it. In fact I’ve left this sub and others related. Too much talking. Too much sniveling. But hey man, if you’re neck deep in pussy (you are aren’t you) then there’s no reason for us men to carry on any further. Go get at life and best of luck!
/r/seduction15/05/20 07:19 PM
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Correct. This stuff I describe is evident in reality but nowhere have I advised any PUA “tactics” in getting women. My response you quoted was me being facetious
/r/seduction15/05/20 05:36 PM
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That only works to have female friends if I’m not sexually attracted at all. You’re simply describing guys who are options to be cried on, drive you places, pay for meals/movies all the while the guy wants to fuck and maaayybe the girl will change her mind later down the line at some point if the guy(s) just stick around long enough and display “high value” and play his cards right. Maybe little Billy will get his chance! Maybe Billy will get lucky Ooh! Fingers crossed! Lolololol My sides are hu…
/r/seduction14/05/20 11:35 PM
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I can’t even begin to take apart this parroted foolery you’ve been gleaning from this or that PUA idiot. You’re not getting laid this way. I could spell it out but frankly I don’t give enough of a shit. I’ll just say this: lions don’t hang out with zebras. Best of luck!
/r/seduction14/05/20 10:54 PM
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You are correct that it’s about a lack of attraction that creates friendzones. But the rest is nonsense. Why would you promote being friends with a girl(s) you want to fuck? If you’re trying to get at her, then you’re not buddies. If you make it known and she isn’t into it (her choice) then what are you gonna do, just hang out w her all the while she knows you wanna fuck her? No. That’s some cake-ass shit. Wtf? And if you do end up fucking guess what? You’re no longer friends. However if the vib…
/r/seduction14/05/20 09:53 PM
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She will only be concerned if she views you as an opportunity rather than an option
/r/seduction14/05/20 02:39 PM
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When I was transitioning I used to see a 10 and then imagine the time she had explosive diarrhea. They’ve all had it at one time or another
/r/seduction14/05/20 02:38 PM
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Yeah it’s used in advertising all the time. Why do companies use hot models to sell stuff? Bc on the surface good looking=trustworthiness
/r/seduction13/05/20 11:50 PM
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That’s entirely up to you.
/r/seduction12/05/20 10:58 PM
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Waaaay different playing field today. Back then women played fair. A charming guy would kill it. Then PUA grew.... Then in 2008 it went mainstream and hit VH1. Then the beast was awoken. The beast knows the game better than most men just naturally bc girls begin to study boy behavior starting at like age 10. Boys on the other hand are studying toys. Now attractive women run game very well. Now they like “oh, you wanna play? Let’s play”. Just look at IG and Tinder. They get meals, entertainment, …
/r/seduction12/05/20 10:18 PM
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Yep. And like I’ve said before many times: having mental attention on getting attention from women will fail you and make all of your efforts in improving your life hollow.
/r/seduction12/05/20 02:43 PM
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I will correct you. “Instead of asking what will make women love me?” Ask yourself “what can I do to love myself more?” And I’m not talking about growing yourself while having one eye off to the side to see if any girls are noticing. That’s still failing. Full attention should be on your own life. Only when the hunger arises does the lions attention shift to a zebra.
/r/seduction12/05/20 02:32 PM
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Of course it is. True seduction, true game is about the mans life. If your focus is on women, you haven’t arrived. Women are the lowest wrung on a man’s ladder of life. Most guys (usually younger) put the woman on a wrung higher than all the others. Sure if you want to fuck women you gotta know how to spit some flavor in her ear, how to be playful, relaxed and fun. You gotta know how to fuck her between her ears and between her legs. But most guys prioritize learning this over other aspects of t…
/r/seduction12/05/20 02:26 PM
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WITHOUT A MUTHAFUCKIN DOUBT
/r/seduction11/05/20 02:29 AM
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Nothing. It’s a public forum. I say what I want
/r/seduction11/05/20 02:16 AM
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The post, the replies, the mind that precedes the post. It’s too much.
/r/seduction11/05/20 12:54 AM
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Don’t have the patience to explain
/r/seduction10/05/20 11:53 PM
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So enticing
/r/seduction10/05/20 11:51 PM
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Are you a woman? You sound like a woman
/r/seduction10/05/20 11:51 PM
1

More pussy for us 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction10/05/20 11:50 PM
1

Ah! That makes more sense lol
/r/seduction10/05/20 11:49 PM
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Who cares if he browses this sub? What’s he gonna do? Something harmful like a downvote?
/r/seduction10/05/20 02:55 PM
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But doesn’t it go in your ass or something?
/r/seduction10/05/20 02:53 PM
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You are correct. Many guys procrastinate. And it’s actually a necessary step to do as you suggest. Some guys just stay there and after a while don’t understand why they feel so empty. It’s bc they need to continue evolving
/r/seduction09/05/20 11:06 PM
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You are correct but that is merely an unevolved version of “game”. You can’t see it bc you’re either standing along side your friends or you’re on the outside of even them. Game is bullshit or not bullshit depending on what your perspective is based on your development. The “highest levels” if you want to call it that is when game and man are not two. The man is game. And by that time, it’s more or less a bore to “play” and only “plays” when actually hungry for it.
/r/seduction09/05/20 10:44 PM
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And that achievement is never really completed. Just leveled up
/r/seduction09/05/20 06:44 PM
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Good job. I rarely say this. You began to love and worship yourself. Game as it’s commonly known is bullshit. Being yourself is cliche but it only works when you are in tune with your higher self that wants the best for yourself (which always includes challenging comfort). “Game” is really all about you as a man. Women are pretty much the bottom wrung on that ladder but a guy won’t see it until he’s built that ladder of personal success.
/r/seduction09/05/20 06:15 PM
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Nope. As long as you care to notice things like “displaying” anything you’re still not there. Who are you displaying to? Obviously you’re not talking about the mirror. So quit playin at the window. Truly not caring if women are in your life is the pinnacle. But this comes as a choice not from sour grapes
/r/seduction09/05/20 05:50 AM
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And the third would be not giving a shit about women Muhahahahah!
/r/seduction09/05/20 05:46 AM
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Lots of sexting with women. Really getting good at erotic writing and erotic voice play
/r/seduction08/05/20 06:34 PM
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The book “Sex God Method”. Some pirate sites have it bc it’s pretty expensive
/r/seduction08/05/20 02:50 PM
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Your last few lines are very much on point. You see we have had the problem of cultural influence when it comes to romance. Marriage back in the day was a strategic move so that families could combine wealth and influence. Lower classes got married so the guys farm and stock wouldn’t be lost. The Romanticist period stepped in and changed all that, altering the landscape of partnership to that of romance and love. Add a few decades of Disney, rom-coms and Hallmark and we have a whole new psycholo…
/r/seduction06/05/20 01:33 PM
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Exactly it’s just a tool with many features. Tons of successful (very successful) businesses operate on IG and I bet they spend zero time worrying about what OP is worried about.
/r/seduction06/05/20 03:29 AM
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Haha. Your feed is full of hot chicks bc that’s what you look at when on IG, duh it works off of your browsing preferences. Mine is full of motorcycles, muscles and memes bc I’m obsessed with motorcycles, I lift and I like memes. Your post actually sounds like you are talking to yourself instead of giving advice. Which, if it works for you and you are less stressed bc of it, then good! Keep on!
/r/seduction06/05/20 03:27 AM
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Never say never. In some cases it can help with the initial issue of social awkwardness then later dropped like Dumbo’s feather- realizing they never really needed it in the first place
/r/seduction05/05/20 07:29 PM
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This
/r/seduction05/05/20 07:27 PM
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PUA does work. The problem with PUA is that it’s a temporary fix for a bigger problem (the guy) that doesn’t always address it. However, in some cases using PUA does work for getting over social hurdles then dropped much like Dumbo’s feather.
/r/seduction05/05/20 07:26 PM
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This is all fine except the part about cold approaching. If you can get used to talking to strangers, talking to a girl you want to fuck should grow to be just as easy. It just takes practice. I also disagree with the talking. But only if the convo goes to sexual stuff- which you should guide anyways. Then you should be able to spit some flavor in her ear that makes her wet wherever you are. You think Luther Vandros kept his mouth shut 90% of the time? Lol However, I will say that it’s important…
/r/seduction05/05/20 07:12 PM
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Are you fucking right now? My guess is no and you’ve got your imagination way down the road. Get talking with some girls first my man.
/r/seduction05/05/20 02:29 PM
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But it helps having a rod so good that your fish has to tell all her other fish friends.
/r/seduction04/05/20 10:11 PM
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The only problem with this parable is “your dream fish”. There is no dream fish. Well, there are. They just only exist in your imagination. The reality is that fish are just fish.
/r/seduction04/05/20 10:10 PM
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Years ago I would have similar issues. It must be my age but now I feel it very easy to open up and give as much as I want and never feel used. I think when I was younger I looked at emotional connections as transactional: I gave this much so you owe me that much so it’s equal. Now I don’t give a shit. Every girl I’m with I make sure they feel loved and cared for. Even the ho’s. It makes no difference to me whether they want to be with me one night or for two months. I commit to none but everyon…
/r/seduction04/05/20 01:02 PM
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39 is a bit far imo. Question: what is the correlation between showing interest and self worth? Can you please elaborate on that?
/r/seduction04/05/20 11:03 AM
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You want someone to be super into you, as you said. Lots of guys can be but you know as much as I do that, that is actually a turn off. From my experience, the best connections were when the girl is chasing me; hoping to gain my affection. The rollercoaster is exciting even if sometimes frustrating. They still keep coming. But calibration is key. You like the chase but I think you’re wanting some give back of energy you are spending yes? There’s no winning formula. The only thing I can say is fr…
/r/seduction03/05/20 10:20 PM
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Well it depends, young lady. You’ll find yourself being chased by males all the time (with respect to your attractiveness level and style). Your average good looking girl is hit up by tons of young and thirsty guys, tossing her up onto a pedestal, blowing kisses, emojis, dinners, vacations, even paying their bills. These guys get used for food, another guy is used for transportation, another is used for a shoulder to cry on, etc etc. All in the hopes of winning her approval. This is distasteful …
/r/seduction03/05/20 08:39 PM
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Depends on how flirtatious things are. If very flirty you can pop a quick message. If it was standard bullshit just hit her up when you can meet. But don’t worry about it at all. It’s just one of many girls. You should have this same situation with at least 5 women rn. You’ve had plenty of time to create a roster
/r/seduction03/05/20 03:17 PM
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This is a great fucking question! I bet for a lot of cases this may be correct
/r/seduction01/05/20 01:57 PM
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Seems like weird science to me but it seems to be helping some people... Sadly I feel antidepressants are too easily prescribed. I know from my own experience and was told I “needed” them too. I just buckled down and got my shit together.
/r/seduction30/04/20 09:23 PM
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Sure. It’s easier said than done but not really. Think less, or rather second guess less. Analyze less. Do more. Trust your logic and instincts. Look at things like this: when it comes to making an action like grabbing an apple from the bowl when you’re hungry, you don’t second guess yourself right? Your body sends a signal “hey asshole Im hungry”. You then just get up and grab the Apple. The same applies to talking to women for example (it can apply to many other things in life). You’re out wal…
/r/seduction30/04/20 07:37 PM
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You’re grown and no longer able to blame your past. Everyone has a past. Big deal. All of the responsibility for your life is on your shoulders. What you need to ask yourself regarding attractive women is: why do you perceive a difference? Its just another female mammal of your species.
/r/seduction30/04/20 06:09 PM
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Um, ok...
/r/seduction30/04/20 05:59 PM
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I understand. What I don’t understand is you often hear “brain chemical imbalance”. How are those chemicals (hormones) measured before treatment? Or do they start you at a base line medication and go up or down in dosage based on how you feel?
/r/seduction30/04/20 02:25 PM
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I mentioned this in my response as well. But it got me thinking: how exactly are these brain chemicals tested? Are you on meds and could explain it to me?
/r/seduction30/04/20 01:41 PM
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Yes. Anxiety is often a feeling of conflict between the part that wants to do what it wants (usually this is the authentic self) and the naysayer who is full of doubt and social conditioning. What you’re feeling is the result of a battle! Let out that lion and stop thinking so much what others think. *Yes, I know there’s anxiety that’s so strong it’s a result of imbalanced brain chemicals and there’s no other recourse than to be on drugs
/r/seduction30/04/20 01:38 PM
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A bit wordy but 100%
/r/seduction28/04/20 05:13 PM
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Wishing is a poor strategy
/r/seduction28/04/20 05:13 PM
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Absolutely. I don’t mean muscles necessarily. I’m talking stamina. A good fuck marathon is hard work!
/r/seduction27/04/20 04:23 PM
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Oh! I’d also like to add that being physically fit helps as well. More so for men, but women too.
/r/seduction27/04/20 02:25 PM
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This is good. I’d also like to add that it pays off to experiment to discover what you don’t like. I’m your head something might be great, then you try it a couple of times and it’s awful. The opposite also applies.
/r/seduction27/04/20 02:23 PM
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Precisely. Often the guys that disagree so hard with this concept are so hungry for female attention and a small wet hole that they are willing to sacrifice their integrity. This shows lack of options. I’d bet my stimulus check on it
/r/seduction26/04/20 06:52 PM
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Understanding is the beginning. Putting it to practice is hard bc you are fighting already established software. There’s no app cleaner. The software must be overwritten and it’s not comfortable
/r/seduction26/04/20 06:23 PM
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Simply put: stop handing over your mind to others (women included). Become so in love with yourself (which creates development and experimentation) that others want to come into your mind space. Fuck what others think. That’s their own responsibility
/r/seduction26/04/20 04:23 PM
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It is. But most young guys don’t have the mental fortitude and completely forget about their own mind and attempt to put their mind inside the mind of the girl, using communication and flirting to only see where she it at. Sure, there’s always a feeling out process. But it’s better to leave more emphasis on how you are communicating.
/r/seduction26/04/20 03:51 PM
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This is correct. OP is not
/r/seduction26/04/20 02:54 PM
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No it’s not. Get your head out of the ass of the people you’re talking to. Flirting is showing that you like someone.
/r/seduction26/04/20 02:53 PM
2

I forgot to answer your first question: “how do I seduce without seeming desperate?” Go address your neediness issues. Filling them with attention from women will not solve your problem.
/r/seduction26/04/20 05:19 AM
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Conversation is non-sexual. Seduction is sexual. The art lies in knowing how and when to weave “seductive” speech into the conversation. One must be quick on their feet and witty enough to see opportunities to flip the script. It takes practice, not study.
/r/seduction25/04/20 11:53 PM
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The only wingman you need is the guy at the bar when he says “you want them mild, medium or hot?”
/r/seduction25/04/20 02:05 PM
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I’d have to disagree to an extent. The value isn’t the established level in social hierarchy, it’s the values inside the man that brought him there. I know a master plumber who has the very same core as my buddy who is a bad ass IT consultant for global trading firms. It’s the seed not the apple that is valuable. Both men carry the same kind of seed but bore different strains of fruit. The bright, healthy fruit is (sometimes) an indication of a good seed. Simply having status may make you more a…
/r/seduction24/04/20 03:18 AM
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Ok. It’s lengthy to really explain and would require a couple of pages worth of text. So to save my thumbs I’ll engage your imagination to help. Does James Bond have game? No. He’s just himself. “But he’s handsome and daring and wealthy”. I hear that but clothes do not make the man. He’d still have the essential character traits that makes him desirable. Does he actively chase women? No but he flirts and entices them. Ultimately he doesn’t give a shit about any of them but they all want to fuck …
/r/seduction23/04/20 04:16 PM
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Just remember as emotional creatures, women love a variety of experiences usually. Mix it up. Sensual, romantic, kinky, humorous, silly even. There’s a reason they have a shit ton of shoes and eat off your plate when you go out 😉
/r/seduction23/04/20 02:44 PM
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First off I doubt that he got laid. I have a German shepherd. Prove me wrong I’d bet my stimulus check that the shit is only half true. Then he fleshed out in his head what he wished had happened then shared that here. And no “game” does not “work”. You and OP are like baby kittens still nursing on momma cats nipple when it comes to game. Cuz the reality is that game, real game has absolutely nothing to do with women. At all.
/r/seduction23/04/20 12:23 PM
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I’m sorry but this is stupid 90s and early 2000s PUA nonsense. What time is it? Really? Everyone has a phone and they all have a clock. Duh. Nine divided by four? Really? Let me ask you this: Why are you asking a girl you want to fuck what the time is or math problems??! The only thing sensible that you said is “I have a lot to learn”.
/r/seduction23/04/20 06:15 AM
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Word. I’m pretty annoyed by the marketing manipulation of said coaches. Most know their fucking snakes but the worst of them actually eat their own shit and think they are helping young men when it’s really the opposite
/r/seduction21/04/20 03:32 PM
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1000% This is why I advocate never waiting bc it just feeds the problem even more. “Ooh if I just watch one more video, then I’ll be ready to talk to women”. “Ooh if I just read one more book, then I’ll be ready to talk to women”. “Ooh if I just find that one technique, then I’ll be ready to talk to women”. All bullshit. I’m not saying to not do your homework. But one needs to exercise what you’ve learned or all that info is as useless as a glass hammer. And the YouTube pickup artists and coache…
/r/seduction21/04/20 03:15 PM
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It’s pretty simple: go talk to women. Try to pick them up. You will fail many times and succeed sometimes. Failing will suck. Avoiding it by not talking to women will guarantee failure (with women).
/r/seduction21/04/20 02:56 PM
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Just read my edits. It’s entirely possible my friend and telling yourself shit that holds you back will do just that
/r/seduction21/04/20 02:53 PM
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Where in the response do you read the word rejection? And you missed my point which is if you tell yourself it’s not possible to have self esteem without external validation, you are deeply wrong. Of course rejection hurts in varying degrees. On one end is “aww shucks, next”. On the other is “I can’t live with myself, I’m giving up on women”. You’re saying it’s not possible to be at the first end? If that’s the case then we are not living in the same reality
/r/seduction21/04/20 02:47 PM
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Agreed. Often is just prolonging the inevitable. You should work on yourself while handling women. Why? Bc a muthafucka is never finished working on himself. That waiting nonsense is just a dude who is afraid of women and hiding behind a modality
/r/seduction21/04/20 02:12 PM
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This is 100% correct for you. Why? Because you confirmed to yourself that it’s not humanly possible. But just bc you have difficulty should they next guy base reality on your experience?
/r/seduction21/04/20 02:10 PM
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If your attention is still in them it won’t work unless it becomes a career lol. Best way to not care is to bump females way down on your list of priorities while you work at being your own best bad ass
/r/seduction21/04/20 02:07 PM
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No. Desperation doesn’t come from having fewer options. Desperation and neediness are merely a symptom of a much bigger problem
/r/seduction21/04/20 02:04 PM
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Oh god. Are you in a time machine back to the late 90s? No technique or method will turn you into a man.
/r/seduction20/04/20 03:51 PM
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Yes, it does. This is the base line of general respect of time and space you’d exercise for anyone. If the scenario permits flirtation then by all means roll with it. But be perceptive and move accordingly. Always leave her your number. If she gets in touch that’s how you know she’s interested. Never ask for hers. As an aside, I don’t small talk without flirting as well. Small talk is boring and conveys nothing other than boring vibes.
/r/seduction20/04/20 11:48 AM
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Gaslighting is a form of manipulation that takes things to a whole new level in which the victim begins to question their sense of sanity and reality as a result
/r/seduction20/04/20 10:53 AM
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https://www.mobilocard.com/v2/#Features
/r/seduction20/04/20 05:28 AM
0

I use the electronic tap business cards. Made to take the place of paper business cards, you put your profile info on it instead. Touch her phone with it and bam a whole profile of you is on her phone
/r/seduction20/04/20 04:43 AM
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🐈💨
/r/seduction20/04/20 03:50 AM
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Curious as to why you think this. I know plenty who have snap but respect themselves just fine. It’s just an app.
/r/seduction20/04/20 03:41 AM
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😂
/r/seduction20/04/20 03:39 AM
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But you didn’t attack me. What’s to defend? Like I said, I’ll bet my stimulus check you don’t fuck and will continue not to post pandemic. You know I’m right. Guys like me love guys like you bc you bore women to death. Good luck with your book. It won’t get you laid any more than all the intellectualizing you’ve done over the years 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction20/04/20 03:38 AM
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Which fallacies? Affirming the consequent? Appeal to authority? Bandwagon fallacy? Ad hominem? Law of excluded middle? Which? Also, I don’t really give a shit. You don’t fuck
/r/seduction20/04/20 03:22 AM
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I don’t know you. But I could....
/r/seduction20/04/20 03:18 AM
1

Omg. You missed the point entirely. Sorry to say but grass eating lions don’t get laid. But good luck with that. I know exactly what’s going to happen in my sex life post pandemic. Do you? I bet I do. Hahahahahaha!
/r/seduction20/04/20 03:13 AM
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No gag reflex
/r/seduction20/04/20 02:55 AM
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Dude, are you a celebrity? Then the pussy will never fall in your lap. Approaching and saying “Excuse me, I saw you from across the cafe and I’d like to introduce myself. Hi, I’m Steven. And you are? <shake hands> It’s a pleasure to meet you Susan. I can see you are busy reading so I won’t take up your time but here, take my card and get in touch bc I’d like to take you out if you’re inclined”. <walk away> Vs: hounding women like a thirsty bitch, asking for numbers and IG profiles, stalking them…
/r/seduction20/04/20 02:50 AM
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That’s what a lion is. Sadly most are grass-eating lions 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction20/04/20 02:40 AM
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Only approach and talk to women you find beautiful
/r/seduction20/04/20 02:23 AM
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Manipulation has the intent to fool, control or contrive the person on the other side of the conversation into doing something, believing something, or buying into something that leaves them either harmed or without benefit. Persuasion is not this.
/r/seduction20/04/20 02:18 AM
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Agreed but this does not mean sitting back on your laurels. A lion hunts. It’s not like a zebra is gonna jump in its mouth unless the lions name is Idris Elba lol
/r/seduction20/04/20 02:15 AM
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Sadly a lot of young guys have passions for Call of Duty 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction20/04/20 02:09 AM
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Never give your number out bro. Stick to snap or IG. I don’t know a single girl that doesn’t have either or both
/r/seduction20/04/20 01:39 AM
2

Well, unless you’re one of those guys (we’ve all seen em) who’s sweaty all the time for some reason. Lol
/r/seduction19/04/20 08:26 PM
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Well busses are pretty short
/r/seduction19/04/20 05:51 PM
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I will definitely agree. However I must flesh out a point which I’m sure you will agree: If you are doing anything above for the sake of female approval it will ultimately fail you. Just another veil on your pig face (though now you’re a pig with a six pack and six figures). Do it all with no concern for ANYONE but yourself. Lift or do CrossFit for your own narcissistic gratification and health (or competition if that’s your hobby/sport). Don’t make money bc you tell yourself “no women will want…
/r/seduction19/04/20 05:50 PM
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At first glance I thought it read “never chase women on a bus” lmao
/r/seduction19/04/20 05:40 PM
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I agree with this. But I’ll say be only who you are. If you’re a prick, don’t try to be amiable. If you are amiable, don’t try to be a prick. Embrace who you are for we are all different. Authenticity is the key. If you are afraid of talking to women and using a philosophy (like stoicism for example) to explain off why you don’t talk to women then you’re not being authentic. If you genuinely don’t give a shit about women then fine. Regarding seduction I won’t pass it off for if the man continues…
/r/seduction19/04/20 05:35 PM
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While this may just be a humble brag (I don’t give a shit). The reality is that this is what happens fellas. Women as a whole stop becoming an item of heightened interest. But this is when a truly intriguing woman stands out that will win your attention beyond your interest. OP you have merely removed the plugs from the matrix farm and are beginning to see reality for what it is.
/r/seduction19/04/20 05:22 PM
8

Sure do whatever the fuck you want. If you want to accept your current state of being I have no problem with that because you turn into a lighted runway for women to me and guys like me. In this life some males are lions and some are pigs. Life isn’t fair. Funny thing is, I have noticed from talking to a number of guys is that many of you are lions but you walk around with a pig veil on your face; accepting that reality. Truth is, Dumbo didn’t need the feather to fly all along.
/r/seduction19/04/20 05:12 PM
35

Haha. acting like you’re entitled is totally different than actually living this way. Telling yourself you are the prize and making efforts to believe it are different than living that way. Behaving like you are cool and confident is different than living that way. The barrier is you and putting silk hats on a pig still has you a pig. You’re self value is probably quite low and you probably seek validation outside yourself and you’re probably afraid of women. An actualized man has these things b…
/r/seduction19/04/20 03:31 PM
1

Not just testosterone. A whole panel.
/r/seduction18/04/20 07:07 PM
1

I am sorry you are afflicted with such a debilitating disorder. I heard last year that the FDA is doing trials with mushrooms as a means of treating depression. Might work for you. Have you ever had a hormone panel done?
/r/seduction18/04/20 12:04 PM
1

“What’s it matter. You won’t be wearing them anyways”
/r/seduction17/04/20 09:16 PM
3

Drop the bullshit PUA nonsense, make himself a better person. Don’t play to pussy. Shift from wanting to get laid to turning her on mentally but with who you are. This requires getting to know who you are. It takes time. It’s also a solitary road in which no one can help you be you as a man. Sure you can learn certain behaviors but they won’t be genuine. And trust me, a man who is comfortable in his own skin who genuinely expresses his sexual nature in a relaxed way but doesn’t make the interact…
/r/seduction17/04/20 08:33 PM
1

Yes. This is what I mean. Craig is just being Craig but maybe with a bit more gas for the camera.
/r/seduction17/04/20 08:29 PM
0

I would but my lunch break is over. Later
/r/seduction17/04/20 05:35 PM
0

Still not getting it.
/r/seduction17/04/20 05:33 PM
0

You missed my point. A fish doesn’t know that it’s slick, it just swims. A cheetah doesn’t know that it is fast, it’s just runs. A bear doesn’t know that it’s a bear, it just bears.
/r/seduction17/04/20 05:08 PM
8

Here’s a question for your question: let’s say you remember some p/p shit and it “works” (whatever that means lol). What are you going to do then? What’s after p/p? What about 30 min after? An hour? Later that night? The next morning? 3 weeks after dating? 3 months after dating? I ask bc what you’re doing is, as they say “putting a silk hat on a pig”. Putting on a silk hat of bullshit PUA techniques will always fail an endurance test bc they won’t change who you are and that’s what the problem i…
/r/seduction17/04/20 03:47 PM
-2

It only appears to be mental gymnastics bc you’re not that guy. If you were your reply would be: “yeah, and?”
/r/seduction17/04/20 01:55 PM
5

Agreed. Not much variance when over time things have been distilled down to “I’m the problem”. It’s really old, I mean the Buddha has been saying that shit for over 4000 years lol. Really what might happen is a splintering of “bettering myself” with posts about how to manage time, money, kids, jobs, networking, nutrition, fitness etc. What’s fantastically coming into awareness is that getting women has zero to do with women.
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:59 AM
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Really? I have. And it’s because they don’t stand on their principles. It’s fear based. Happens in marriages a lot too where the sexual spark/attraction is gone and his life is strong otherwise but at home he’s a “yes dear, whatever you like dear”. Basically if you’re a bitch you let women walk all over you.
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:53 AM
1

Do whatever works for you. If you like getting pussy the way you like getting it then that’s you. Pound on my friend
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:50 AM
4

You’re missing the point. As long as your choices are dictated by a hole the size of a quarter you’re always going to be running in the back
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:49 AM
3

That’s because “game” in the form of technique is dumb and transitory. It doesn’t change the person, who is essentially the main problem where as if his kinks are ironed out he wouldn’t even need to “run game” like he’s some kind of PUA from the 90s.
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:48 AM
1

😂 bruh
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:45 AM
11

And therein lies being a Man. It’s sophisticated game that actually functions naturally the more in touch the man is with himself. It is a natural sort of gesturing and behavior which allows her to be more comfortable and therefore become more sexual because he’s more comfortable with himself.
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:43 AM
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And even if a guy is sexually disciplined and life disciplined it still doesn’t mean he knows what to do when a woman is in front of him. Tons of guys who have their life together, don’t chase pussy but get ran over by women with their hands tied behind their backs.
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:39 AM
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Yep. In short, don’t let a hole the size of a quarter control your life
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:34 AM
1

Wrong mindset
/r/seduction16/04/20 10:20 PM
3

Stop it with this moron
/r/seduction16/04/20 09:21 PM
1

Ehh. Who cares
/r/seduction16/04/20 07:46 PM
1

What? Why do you care?
/r/seduction16/04/20 06:59 PM
1

Who cares? I’m in the same boat as you but I already have kids. I don’t get with any women above the age of 35. Reduce your app reliance and go talk to women. Get shot down. As they say, you lose 100% of the chances you don’t take.
/r/seduction16/04/20 06:59 PM
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No. The neediness precedes the outlying behavior. Your advice will cure nothing
/r/seduction16/04/20 03:24 PM
4

This is dumb. First off you don’t need to turn off the notifications you just change your reaction. Just like any other habit. It’s your own Pavlov experiment. Second, simply turning off notifications won’t get rid of your neediness. This obviously requires deep work. Not flipping a switch on your phone settings. Band-aid approach. Third, I talk to multiple women at a time per week. Many are progressive. While of course many are dead ends. If I turn off notifications how exactly will I know they…
/r/seduction16/04/20 03:22 PM
11

Anyone else here tired of people trying to peddle their (likely tired and bs) products?
/r/seduction16/04/20 03:10 PM
1

Seek professional help.
/r/seduction16/04/20 05:03 AM
11

I agree with what you are saying but to answer his question it would be more like: standing on your morals, codes and principles. Having these things solid is what begets strength and consistency with anything a man wants to do, be it finances, fitness, boundaries, hobbies or perks, like women
/r/seduction16/04/20 05:02 AM
7

Bullshit. I say go for it after the first high five
/r/seduction15/04/20 09:07 PM
5

What do you mean by “disturbed”. Can you give an example? This is curious
/r/seduction15/04/20 04:58 PM
1

You’re young aren’t you. How old?
/r/seduction15/04/20 12:47 AM
2

I don’t know you. But the pussies are those that rely on online interaction and have a higher percentage of female communication online vs irl. Online is a crutch for most guys, rather than a tool in bag of tools.
/r/seduction14/04/20 10:41 PM
1

Yep. Buncha pussies. Not gonna lie
/r/seduction14/04/20 08:46 PM
5

There’s not much to it generally speaking. But each guy depending on what they bring to the table can make things harder or easier. It all depends on how you feel about yourself, fears, your princliples, your codes etc. Really getting women and getting women to be interested in you actually has nothing to do with women at all. We can chat privately if you want. I don’t charge any money. Just DM me
/r/seduction14/04/20 07:32 PM
4

I’d say you’re actually a good looking dude. I’m an illustrator and work with male and female models all the time. You’re good looking. Don’t sweat it. What you’re sweating is two things: 1) you worry about what girls think and this puts you playing on their board. Fuck what they think. What do YOU think irrespective of anyone else? 2) you think one particular look is better than another. Use what you have. Honor it and enjoy it. So you don’t look rugged. Who cares? When you’re spittin some flav…
/r/seduction14/04/20 05:51 PM
7

Basically making decisions based on how you feel vs the logical choice. Decisions based on emotion often work out badly. Feelings can certainly be used. Our intuition is based on them partly to help make decisions. But when the feelings drive the bus we tend to get in trouble and make rash choices
/r/seduction14/04/20 05:46 PM
3

This
/r/seduction14/04/20 05:43 PM
1

Do what you want. Don’t care
/r/seduction14/04/20 05:43 PM
3

That dude had millions of women willing to fuck him. Granted a millionaire but still
/r/seduction14/04/20 04:41 PM
2

Let’s see a pic
/r/seduction14/04/20 04:40 PM
0

No. No. No. No. No. Having hot female friends in no way makes you more attractive. Fucking a few hot females where they all know about one another is one of many ways to make yourself attractive.
/r/seduction14/04/20 03:47 PM
0

No. That’s your own head getting in the way of yourself. Sort of like a safeguard software bc it knows you fear confrontation and talking to women.
/r/seduction14/04/20 03:46 PM
0

Perfect height for a blowie 🤷‍♂️ I heard girls are good at multitasking
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:44 PM
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I find that a lot of upvoting on certain posts/responses comes in the form of confirmation bias such that the voter can agree with the bad advice and remain as they are. Truth is the only obstacle in talking to women is the guy. Tons of young dudes have shit for self esteem. They are mentally lazy, way too tapped into their emotions (and act on them), remain in an introverted lifestyle where most communication is online (safe) while playing console or pc games. Entertainment is often twitch and …
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:44 PM
3

Why wait? 🧐
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:31 PM
4

Poop IN her? Lmao
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:31 PM
5

It’s totally different. Most guys aren’t looking for feelings of safety like women. The minds are different, the social norms are different, all of it is.
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:29 PM
1

Watermelon
/r/seduction13/04/20 10:36 PM
2

Stop hanging around girls who have zero interest in fucking you. Start being deadly honest with yourself.
/r/seduction13/04/20 09:23 PM
2

“Get lucky” lol. “Don’t wanna be that guy who hangs w girls just to have sex” lol. “I actually enjoy their friendship” lol. You are dishonest. You are interested and you’re not honest with yourself or the women around you. You are not a sexual threat. You are a girl friend with a penis. I’m not trying to be insulting. This is how those “friends” see you. “Megaque is such a great guy” they say. “Megaque is so nice, any girl would be happy to have a guy like you (just not me or any of my hot girlf…
/r/seduction13/04/20 07:23 PM
1

It’s all related: being afraid of women and sexuality/not accepting or standing on who you are/always worrying what THEY are thinking. It’s a hydra with more heads than those three. First bit of advice is stop giving a fuck what women think about you.
/r/seduction13/04/20 06:43 PM
1

Then what the fuck are you hanging around for? Scared you’ll revel yourself and your intentions, that’s what. Or you’re sitting on the sidelines waiting for her to call you when and if they break up. Just tip the fuck out.
/r/seduction13/04/20 06:39 PM
1

It’s not an interesting take. It’s the reality of the situation. Do you ask your female friends to just hang out and do shit? Why? I bet you a paycheck you’re not being honest with your desires. If you are honest with yourself you’ll quickly realize that your “friendship” is a lie. That is unless you don’t find the females you hang out with sexually attractive but then that circles around to the first part: why?
/r/seduction13/04/20 06:12 PM
1

I disagree wholeheartedly %1000. It is not a red flag at all. I have but a couple of female friends in my life. Two are context based and are necessary but I wouldn’t fuck them if I was paid to. The third is one of my best friends that I fucked many years ago but we remained friends. Known her for 20 years. Other than that if I’m not interested in you sexually I’m not going to ask you to hang out for shits n giggles. I think most guys who do this are greatly fooling themselves and not being hone…
/r/seduction13/04/20 06:03 PM
1

Nope you’re not. You’re afraid of women
/r/seduction13/04/20 05:56 PM
1

There’s no sense telling you because if you “learned” it would be a false mask bc you’re not comfortable being yourself and probably lack steadfast confidence. What he said worked because he was probably unabashedly himself. He didn’t give a shit about what the girls thought of him (in a non rude way). He was casual and wasn’t faking it like you are asking to.
/r/seduction13/04/20 05:55 PM
2

A lot of female friends around (that you’re not fucking) says you’re another pussy in the hen house. Might as well be the token gay guy. Ideally you want a roster of girls that you fuck on rotation. The women should not be kept as a secret from the others. This will make them work harder for your attention provided you are fucking and sucking their mind properly. Why? Bc women are more competitive than men are. And it’s simple consumerism: men and women alike often can’t judge value on their own…
/r/seduction13/04/20 05:50 PM
3

But will it build trust and attraction? You said being honest would
/r/seduction13/04/20 01:49 AM
3

What if the thing I want to say is: “I’d really like to pop out that glass eye of yours and skull fuck you”?
/r/seduction12/04/20 11:17 PM
0

I bet you have low self value and therefore get rid of them before they can have the chance to get rid of you bc you think it’s coming anyway. Get off reddit and seek a therapist
/r/seduction11/04/20 06:13 PM
1

It’s not complicated at all. It’s really easy: fuck your feelings. I didn’t say don’t have any. No one is saying that. It’s impossible bc it’s human. I’ll say it again: fuck your feelings. Feel all you want but you show your softer side to a woman too much or if she can gather that you’re like that from a glance, you’re finished before you even start. Women say they care about seeing a mans tender side. This is true. But emo boys are like “well shucks I’m like that 24/7 but why is my dick so dus…
/r/seduction10/04/20 12:57 PM
7

Not taking certain aspect of life too seriously is key to happiness
/r/seduction09/04/20 08:09 PM
2

Inner game. Lol. I’d say the only person who knows anything is Steve Williams. His approach is not about women. Well it is but it’s not. You just gotta listen and do what he suggests. All that PUA nonsense from the 90s and early 2000s just complicated shit for guys and never really made men out of them. Just mediocre actors at best. What’s worse is that all that shit created the monster we have today. And then it all stopped and MGTOW started. I know correlation doesn’t always equal causation bu…
/r/seduction09/04/20 08:06 PM
1

How to get out of your comfort zone? Don’t talk to any woman unless she’s an 8 or above. Simple.
/r/seduction09/04/20 02:49 PM
8

See the reality is that PUA awakened a female monster. Now all these dudes and their shitty business models are washing up so they are pivoting. Snakes, all of em.
/r/seduction08/04/20 09:28 PM
1

Recorded disagreement isn’t really the best barometer. What if the majority are asleep? What if the majority are stuck in bad habits they can’t see or get out of? TBH I’d be curious about the persons thinking that the herd disagrees with. There’s a chance they think outside the prescribed box.
/r/seduction08/04/20 07:11 PM
1

Not A doesn’t equate to A moron. It’s simply not A. Frankly the shit would have me typing more than I have patience for. What I’m commenting on is old hat, dead, generalized fearful nonsense. Sorry you’re inconvenienced. 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction08/04/20 05:55 PM
5

It’s not cave man. It’s just man. Most males are deeply disconnected with the man that’s inside them. If working out helps you then great. But be sure it’s for your mental and physical health only. The essence that’s inside has nothing to do with your body though. It’s all about your character and redeveloping a killer instinct. The reality is this: getting women has nothing to do with women. And once this gate opens up and the never-ending work begins, women become a fun perk to your life. That…
/r/seduction08/04/20 04:17 PM
6

Sure I wouldn’t rule that out but my point (which I didn’t flesh out) aims at the reason why they haven’t complied. Fact is, there is an over-abundance of physically weak, overly emotionally expressive young men out there who don’t know themselves, and are afraid of face to face competition/confrontation. These boys are stuck online, looking for ways/strategies to get girls to like them and failing to realize that they are their own worst problem. Wasting their time looking out the window instea…
/r/seduction08/04/20 03:16 PM
0

You are bias and that’s why you can’t see the entire board. Tell me, was this woman an option for you that you chose out of 3 or more women? My guess is no. Is she currently hunted by as many men as she was? Probably not. She knows the kind of guy that gets her wet. But that kind of guy commonly doesn’t stick around. Truth is she still gets turned on by that kind of guy. And it’s not about that guy being a jerk. It’s the heightened and varied feelings that that kind of guy produces. Wanna keep t…
/r/seduction08/04/20 02:24 PM
3

I don’t care.
/r/seduction08/04/20 02:16 PM
15

Well to be frank, being an introverted loser who is incredibly sexually frustrated and lacks respect from society in general will lead to quite a bit of anger. These guys are overly emotional and not objectively introspective enough to understand that they are the biggest problem in their lives, not women or society.
/r/seduction08/04/20 01:59 PM
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Haha buddy, I’m glad you’re happy but you can’t see the whole board my friend. Guaranteed she’s settling for a guy she can get at this stage in her life. But again, if you’re happy you’re happy.
/r/seduction08/04/20 01:56 PM
5

Also it will bring back a sense of competition with other men which I think is a massive piece of society that is missing in young men today. Everybody wants to be friends and get back pats and the group pulling the weakest up. Bullshit that waters down the sauce.
/r/seduction08/04/20 01:48 PM
8

Generalized blanket, parroted nonsense.
/r/seduction08/04/20 01:42 PM
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Why are you asking? This is a clear answer. But maybe it isn’t to you. Or maybe you’re just bored in quarantine. It’s like saying how do you feel when approached by a tiger vs being approached by a house cat. You might think: duh, that’s obvious the person would feel a great deal of fear and panic when approached by a tiger and may not feel anything at all when approached by a house cat. Do you see where I’m going with this young man? It’s not about what the feeling is. The point is feeling itse…
/r/seduction08/04/20 01:18 PM
3

Of course it is. My comment isn’t about free will. It’s directing attention to the usefulness of said choice. But then again it’s not a huge deal if you’re in Hamburg and she’s in Copenhagen for example. Though still, a man in physical presence to her will always have an advantage over you.
/r/seduction08/04/20 01:07 PM
1

Countermove? 😂 She left the field playa
/r/seduction07/04/20 10:22 PM
2

Your mind and what you think of yourself as well as your rules and codes are the problem.
/r/seduction07/04/20 03:01 PM
2

That shit will only make you appear like a good catch but you could be an A list Hollywood actor and if you don’t know yourself and can’t talk to women the outcome will be women who are BORED with you but stick around for the perks or just leave in search of a real man
/r/seduction07/04/20 02:58 PM
1

I don’t see the point in getting to know someone so far away
/r/seduction07/04/20 01:01 AM
0

Never. As “game” as it were is really about yourself and how you relate to you in the greater game of life. This is an ongoing development so there is never a way to know it all because one can never know all there is to know about ones self.
/r/seduction06/04/20 04:28 PM
2

Wrong sub dude. Get out of your head
/r/seduction05/04/20 10:27 PM
2

For sure. In pockets of society there is definitely a growing sense of mindfulness and the use of meditation. And truth be told, it’s not all bad. The amount of information a high school kid has compared to when I was in high school is mind blowing. But the down side is that it’s hard to sort the wheat from the chaff.
/r/seduction03/04/20 07:47 PM
2

You bet. I hope I’m not coming across as angry with the world. I am not. And what you say is absolutely true. Humans are emotional creatures, males and females alike. And what you choose to do with them makes all the difference. So much of what I see on dating and seduction subs where guys post shit is commonly from a state where their choices are driven by their feelings rather than logic OR their choices are based on what they think the woman is thinking, thereby passively handing over their w…
/r/seduction03/04/20 06:24 PM
1

Who said I’m talking about the past. I’m talking present young man. And yes, you are correct: people who grow up with everything at the push of a button from buying anything to applying for a job to getting groceries also think getting women and self development can come as easily as well. Monkey mind has been around since minds. Some men learn to tame it. Most do not.
/r/seduction03/04/20 06:07 PM
1

I’m only peeling apart what you said. And the advice given again is just like what the lion and giraffe and owl were doing. You held up your painting YOUR painting and said how would YOU change it? They came in and suggested what to change. Your painting will become an amalgamation of other people and your voice will be lost. If you don’t like your painting ask yourself how would YOU change it. They are not living your life. You are not living theirs. Much like in painting you gotta explore and …
/r/seduction03/04/20 05:04 PM
2

Maybe you know this but having high emotional intelligence does not mean being emotional. Yes a developed man has developed EQ. He is not however guided by his emotions, unlike tons of men that I see in life as well as on this sub and others. Males have always needed women. Men have not. Men are actually a very small percentage of the male population. Boys and males these days get crumpled by social interaction let alone talking to girls. Why do you think they are on these subs? It’s to learn ex…
/r/seduction03/04/20 04:52 PM
1

“How to portray myself to them” Here is part of your problem. You’re looking for ways to change yourself to meet what you think their expectations are so you have less of a chance of being rejected. There was a story my mother read me when I was a kid called “Bread and Honey”. It was a story of a bear that while at school, painted a picture of his mother. On the way home he met different animal friends and showed them the painting. He met elephant who said “it’s beautiful but the nose is too sho…
/r/seduction03/04/20 04:42 PM
4

This is very good. I will add that many males fail to understand that the seduction of women at the core has absolutely nothing to do with women. It has to do with your relationship with yourself and that’s all. Men on the other hand (as opposed to males), prioritize themselves over all else. This can be seen as many archetypes in film. And they always have the girl wanting him. He gets her but does not keep her. She joins him (or at least wants to) on his ride; not the other way around. A probl…
/r/seduction03/04/20 04:31 PM
1

You are the problem. Not something external to you like the woman or some missing info found in a book. You need to objectively assess your behaviors from the past and be honest with yourself
/r/seduction03/04/20 04:13 PM
1

Just stop all of it then. Dealing with girls is simple: think it. Do it. Since we can’t Do. Do something else. Women are a perk.
/r/seduction02/04/20 06:33 PM
3

You’re not paying attention. Read what you just wrote again, then read my initial response again. You’re doing precisely what I said you shouldn’t do. Fuck what girls think. You straight up said you want to MODIFY YOUR BEHAVIOR to suit what you think she might be thinking about you. Do you see how unsubstantial that makes you? Trust me, ANY girl if they knew what you were thinking and trying to do would be turned off. This is too advanced for you but girls actually want to prove themselves to yo…
/r/seduction02/04/20 06:29 PM
2

My dude, you are stuck in trying to figure everything out before doing it. You also seem to have target fixated on one person. And want to do things “the right way” so she’ll like you. Am I right?
/r/seduction02/04/20 04:26 PM
12

Why do you care? I can tell you’re young but your perspective is operating with her feelings and perceptions placed in front of your own feelings, perceptions (and actions). Like set of glasses that were not prescribed to you. Get what you think is in her head out of your head. It shouldn’t matter to you. Do what you want.
/r/seduction02/04/20 04:22 PM
9

1) you could just tell her straight that she should get in touch when things get back to normal. Let her know the doors open. No need to keep her “warm” for weeks and weeks. It’s exhausting and frankly a waste of time. Or 2) you can have fun with it. Something I’ve done is I’ve gotten into writing erotic stories. I play out fantasies with girls I’m talking to. Just be sure to be very descriptive in scenes, noting sights, smells, textures, sounds, tastes. Really bring her into the world you are c…
/r/seduction01/04/20 07:28 PM
1

Dumbass OP. *You can however talk a woman up such that she gets incredibly turned on and then it’s possible to switch to FaceTime or similar and have her masturbating for you
/r/seduction29/03/20 05:09 PM
2

You bet. Take your time
/r/seduction29/03/20 05:16 AM
8

Hahaha. No. “Hey babe, wanna fuck?” Lmao. No, FIRST forget about the girl. NEXT dig into why you are needy. This may take some time. Still talk to girls if you want but you’re gonna fumble the ball a lot. THEN you get clear with yourself on what you want and who you are/what you’re about. Once comfortable on that level with yourself, talking to women becomes a lot easier when coupled with the parts about not giving a shit what others think of you- including the girls that have your interest.
/r/seduction29/03/20 05:07 AM
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Lol. But you already are a needy and seeking validation kinda guy. I’m not laughing at you really. But the fact that you’re worrying about it shows that part of you can see it lurking beneath the surface. Nothing to worry about just take some quiet time and a notebook if you like and dismantle that shit. Might take a few times. Also, stop giving a shit what she thinks about you. She doesn’t really care about you. Especially when you are boy #... Get my drift? Yes a two way street is so much fun.…
/r/seduction29/03/20 04:09 AM
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When communicating with a girl, get crystal clear with yourself about what you want. Do you want to get naked? Do you want someone to spend quality time with? Someone to do nothing with? BDSM? Snuggling? Most guys ignore or hide the fact that they are sexual beings and a man resides somewhere inside them amidst all this social conditioning out there to be a team player and to be nice. Side note: not being nice doesn’t mean being a dick to her. It just means not being nice. Remember that. Not kno…
/r/seduction29/03/20 03:23 AM
2

Tried that. Had to clean my ceiling after that one. Would not recommend
/r/seduction29/03/20 01:27 AM
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No. Based on my response my time is more important to me than you are. You’re the one asking for play books on step by step protocol/advice for when or when not to text a female. I even invited you to talk to me bc I am very busy and need my hands (I’m an illustrator). But now you’re being a little bitch bc I wont give you what you want, when you want it so the offer is off the table. Good luck wondering “golly do I wait 3 days or 4.6 days to text a gurl?”
/r/seduction29/03/20 01:25 AM
4

That’s my point: it’s never cut and dry. Stop looking for answers outside yourself. But based on your line of questioning you don’t know what you’re doing. I’d explain some things but it’s too much to type. DM me and we can voice chat if you want
/r/seduction29/03/20 12:33 AM
1

Yep. Same with the ladies. Lots of variables to consider then you make adjustments to meet your goal
/r/seduction28/03/20 10:08 PM
6

Well that all depends on if your cams are OEM or if you’re running hotter cams with more lift lol
/r/seduction28/03/20 09:45 PM
25

I’d have to agree in laying it out plainly like that, though I’ve covered it in other ways. If a man knows himself, knows what he’s about and knows what he wants, there is no neediness. Neediness comes from somewhere. If you know yourself, you’ll know where this impulse comes from. Likely a childhood experience. What most guys fail at doing is working to become a man and instead take a shortcut and learn the behaviors of a man and try to copy it. They all fail eventually. Either at “hello” or in…
/r/seduction28/03/20 09:41 PM
235

All the time, sometimes and never Your question is equivalent to asking “what should I set my valve specs to on my engine?” - what make, what model, what year, what type of environment, what type of driving? Every girl is different and every girl is different in different situations at different times. You must understand the game, have texting game, know who you are and what you’re about, and what you want. There is NO rule to texting. It’s just another form of communication. If you can spit so…
/r/seduction28/03/20 08:01 PM
0

Dude. No one is hating. No one is raged. No one is upset. You just don’t know what this sub is for. And I’m calling you a moron. Admins have removed it. Maybe bc it doesn’t belong here. Not to mention buddy, women don’t seduce men simply bc they ask for it lmao
/r/seduction27/03/20 11:11 PM
0

Haha. Dumb punk
/r/seduction27/03/20 08:20 PM
1

Just get better at storytelling and really flesh out scenes descriptively
/r/seduction27/03/20 04:31 PM
2

This is pretty concise except for the congruence. Congruence is needed but the explanation is off. Congruence is simply having your thoughts, words and actions/behavior all in alignment. A man who stands on his square, on his own two feet. It also ties into a mans principles and codes.
/r/seduction27/03/20 04:29 PM
1

Haha. Your analogy is off. Auto mechanics is a VASTLY different subject. In order to do it with confidence you either need many years of tinkering in tons of different areas on lots of cars (because there are tons of variables based on the issues and make/model) or you need to attend a school. Last I looked there’s no make/model or school of sex. You put the pee pee in the vagina. Not hard. Worthless analogy mate. Second, is irl the only option? Really? Does she have Instagram? Snap? Double List…
/r/seduction25/03/20 02:27 PM
4

The question is: is this a kink of yours? If so, go find her some dicks. If it’s not a kink then you’re being used by a lazy person. Frankly, I don’t think this is a kink of yours. I think this may be your one lover and you don’t want to fuck shit up and get pushed out of the pussy zone. Im not into being a cuck (that’s basically what this is). So I’d continue fucking her but tell her if she wants a threesome so bad she should find the dicks herself. If she’s even somewhat attractive it shouldn’…
/r/seduction25/03/20 01:12 AM
8

What kind of bullshit is this? I mean unless it’s your kink, why would you? So a girl you are fucking wants you to find her two other guys to fuck her but you are not/don’t want to be involved. Is that right?
/r/seduction24/03/20 11:26 PM
1

In short, you give a shit too much about what other people think of you. This has a lot to do with what you think of yourself, not knowing who you are and what you stand for and relying on the voices and perceptions of those outside of yourself for reassurance. Fuck your feelings. You have some internal work to do an no amount of online forum, video or book will get you there. That said, the only book I’d recommend is No More Mr Nice Guy. But that’s it. Read that, unplug and get to work on knowi…
/r/seduction23/03/20 05:38 PM
1

Why worry so much about the behavior of women? Just stop wanting their attention yourself. Stop giving a fuck about what they think about you. This is not bitter advice but it is difficult because it goes against social conditioning. Play on
/r/seduction22/03/20 06:08 PM
1

Yep. This is old PUA nonsense from the 90’s. Think you got game? Get the girl to send video clips of her touching herself when she’s never done that sort of thing before. Point being that seduction is seduction no matter the context
/r/seduction21/03/20 03:53 PM
1

Bullshit parroting from so called washed up “dating coaches”. Yes use text to set dates but text chatting is all about context and desire. If you want to just chat then chat. But texting can be a whole other level of sexual communication that when done right with the right skill and right intention, will lead to voice notes and video. Depending on your skill and intent this can often lead to very risqué content. Remember, the mind is a woman’s most erogenous zone. If you can turn her on via conv…
/r/seduction21/03/20 03:49 PM
2

If she’s hitting you up all the time unprovoked. Or if all you hear is “gawk-gawk-gawk”. That’s a pretty good indicator
/r/seduction20/03/20 01:40 PM
1

I guess it depends on a lot of things. My mentor is black. Old school dude. Changed my life. The username part “gas lean” is a part of track riding/racing corner entry lingo. I track my bike so it stuck out to me
/r/seduction17/03/20 08:45 PM
1

Maybe. I’ve never been not white so I can’t compare. Have you been another color to compare? That aside I’m curious about your username. Do you ride?
/r/seduction17/03/20 08:26 PM
1

🤷‍♂️ Truth be told I did a poor job of explaining the mechanisms of flirtation. Doesn’t mean what I do doesn’t work. These sort of things are happening but more unconsciously. It’s not like someone says to themselves “ok now it’s time for some humor”. Lol. It happens organically and one needs to be adaptive. It’s like a lot like bjj. Successes happen on the mat due to a combination of trained instinct and recognizing opportunities. It’s simple in reality but to explain it is hard (for me apparen…
/r/seduction17/03/20 08:01 PM
1

No
/r/seduction17/03/20 06:29 PM
1

Metaphorically speaking yes. But it won’t work unless you have solid grounding. Otherwise it’ll look like you’re desperately grasping at straws
/r/seduction17/03/20 06:11 PM
2

The same as what? The same as the postman? A barista? Your college professor? A flight attendant? Your mother? Your boss? A client? You treat them different in the sense that you know why you’re stepping to this girl (you find her attractive) and you make it clear as to why. You also gotta project other things like easy going and comfort amongst others. If your question is “do I treat them like an unknown stranger or do I put them on a pedestal?” You have a lot to learn man. Every person and sit…
/r/seduction17/03/20 04:59 PM
2

What are you talking about I said “put in your bid and leave it alone”. Pretty clear that doesn’t mean chasing. Or were you responding to the OP?
/r/seduction17/03/20 04:50 PM
17

Your head is wrong or you misinterpreted what I’m saying. Chasing girls isn’t the same as approaching them. Men should approach women if they want to. Show your interest, introduce yourself, spit some mouthpiece, make her laugh, make her blush. Giver her YOUR number and leave. Chasing is when that girl gives you only a crumb of attention and you tail after her for weeks like a little puppy, waiting for the treat bag to open so you can get another little morsel. Approach, yes. Chase, no. Let her …
/r/seduction17/03/20 03:13 PM
8

@OP I would like to edit your original statement. You said women choose who gets to enter their life. No. Women choose who gets to enter their pussy. That’s it. Men who have a life choose what women enter and when and in what capacity. It’s only weak-ass suckers who have no life who are desperate to enter the life of a woman. This man will forever be an accessory to her bc that’s what he started out as- just an option to her.
/r/seduction17/03/20 01:42 PM
6

Yep. Making shit more complicated than it needs to be. Think it, do it, learn, repeat.
/r/seduction17/03/20 01:38 PM
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You also don’t know how to talk to women. Treating them like everyone else is not a turn on. Neither is putting them on a pedestal. It’s knowing how to smoothly inject sexual interest without making the interaction about sex. It’s about being clear and concise and standing with two feet on the ground. I bet you anything you are emotive. No girl is gonna jump in your arms if she senses your pussy is bigger than hers, if you’re more emotive than her and if you are keeping your true intentions (sex…
/r/seduction17/03/20 12:30 PM
-1

Ok. More women for me
/r/seduction17/03/20 12:23 PM
89

Most males these days are such lonely, attention starved emotional grass eaters that when they get a crumb of attention from a girl they start chasing. Even if they resist with their actions, they continue emotionally. Yes as a man you need to hunt, to peruse, to put in your bid. But that’s it. If the zebra jets just let it run off. Plenty of zebra on the Serengeti
/r/seduction17/03/20 01:53 AM
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She may be the chooser but if you’re a man, you’re the decider. If you have a full life that is developing its up to you as a man to decide who you allow into that personal kingdom for committed relationships, or not. But this requires being an opportunity and having a number of options.
/r/seduction17/03/20 01:46 AM
3

2+2=4. All other shit just complicates matters
/r/seduction13/03/20 05:20 PM
1

I would follow this rule for INITIAL texting. After you’ve gone out irl and connected (if you connected), then I’d say “text game” comes into play
/r/seduction11/03/20 04:22 PM
1

He didn’t say “acting like he doesn’t care”. He said not caring. Big difference. And yes, if you’re not genuine with yourself and you’re just wearing the hat of not caring then you’re bullshitting yourself and everyone else.
/r/seduction04/03/20 03:27 PM
3

I shave my head with a razor. Lift. Grow a short beard (or long if you prefer). It’s a good look. If you have tattoos it’s even better
/r/seduction03/03/20 05:15 PM
1

A girl wants to feel safe and non threatened in every situation.
/r/seduction03/03/20 12:33 AM
3

You have no verbal/text skills. You’re not giving her things to feel (funny, sad, mad, anxious, erotic, seductive etc). They bounce bc of you not them.
/r/seduction26/02/20 07:31 PM
1

She’s not a plate. The dude said she was his girlfriend. “Plates” (nonsense terminology) are girls that are in a rotation. Obv a girlfriend isn’t in a rotation, duh
/r/seduction25/02/20 10:25 PM
13

I’m with you. Who gives a fuck. What matters is if YOU are interested. Looking for bullshit IOIs is still putting women on a pedestal, waiting for their “permission” to talk to them. If the lion wants the zebra he doesn’t wait for “signals” to see if it’s ok to eat them lol
/r/seduction25/02/20 06:03 PM
3

You fit her in your schedule when it suits you. If she’s interested enough she’ll bend to that or you’ll find a happy medium. Everybody has schedules. It can be tricky sometimes
/r/seduction23/02/20 06:06 PM
1

Have you ever tripped on acid? I have a few times. The experiences are so real that for all intents and purposes, they were real (to me at the time). But they were not objectively real. Subjectively I could literally feel the Empire State Building slide on the sidewalk as I pushed it with my hands. It felt like I was pushing a sofa. I even heard the grinding of concrete and could see marks left on the sidewalk. To me it was quite real. Did it really happen? No. So despite all my senses, includin…
/r/seduction17/02/20 10:30 PM
1

I agree with you. Love is chemicals. Western culture is assbackwards nonsense. Romantic love as a life pursuit is a fool's errand and it sidetracks most of us from seeing and attaining the things in life that would actually bring us more comfort, emotional stability, and fulfillment. Having a great partner, having great feelings for them, and living a great life with them isn't a solution, it's a consequent. This was my point all along albeit long winded and with some logical holes. Not sure why…
/r/seduction17/02/20 09:47 PM
1

I don’t see the irony. Are you suggesting that my position is also a product of an illusory free will? That might be the case bc free will might be an illusion altogether. But that’s a whole other discussion. From what I read, I think you’re saying that the experience of love is subjective and since it’s subjective it is real. Is that what you are saying? If I could clarify I am not defining love. Definitions only serve as a vehicle to describe how words are commonly used. That said, I am descri…
/r/seduction17/02/20 04:03 AM
5

It’s not my interpretation. It literally is a series of chemicals. Often lasting anywhere from 3-6 months. This is called Limerence. It’s a state in which our brains become flooded with feel-good chemicals. It evolved to be that way bc humans evolved out of having a mating cycle unlike pretty much all other mammals. Had to do something to keep us here, right? So back in cave days the chemicals fired, we made babies then moved on. Is it any wonder that the highest occurrence of break-ups happen a…
/r/seduction17/02/20 02:58 AM
-1

“Love” as most people know it is a mixture of concepts, cultural conditioning and brain chemicals.
/r/seduction16/02/20 10:41 PM
3

You don’t need fkn inspiration. You just need action
/r/seduction16/02/20 10:40 PM
2

Yeah. Go down the rabbit hole internally and find out why you need external emotional validation. While you’re at it look into why you’re afraid of women. They’re likely closely related in terms of issue root. Starting a thread is a waste of time bc it keeps you in a state of reliving and discussing rather than taking action. Do what’s necessary and move foreword.
/r/seduction16/02/20 10:38 PM
5

I got married lol
/r/seduction15/02/20 07:29 PM
1

They grow up all their lives hearing how beautiful they are or will be when they’re older. But when it’s just you, you don’t see it. Like a Peregrine Falcon doesn’t sit there and be like “yeah bitch imma fast muthafucka”. It just flies and thinks it’s normal. Everyone else is like “bitch, you fuckin fast”. Or it’s like the great successful father looking at his son and saying “son, someday you will be great”. It’s a lot of pressure. So these girls often start out not knowing what most people are…
/r/seduction15/02/20 01:27 PM
6

More lies. Brother you are not going to progress until you get past this ego of yours. You don’t know what you’re doing (that’s fine, you’re young) therefore you have no concept of the game or how women operate. Therefore you are afraid of rejection (ie afraid of women). Otherwise you wouldn’t have been patting yourself on the back for your efforts! (I’m not saying you shouldn’t but the fact that you are shows how green you are). And you’re saying that when you overlook a woman it makes you appe…
/r/seduction15/02/20 05:08 AM
11

Definitely agree. The hotter they are often the more insecure. Especially with a one night stand. You can inject words of comfort letting her know that her behavior is acceptable and not being judged (just in prettier words). She also does not want to get used. Not many girls do except the really damaged ones and they don’t want to be used, they just don’t give a shit about themselves any longer. So take that to heart when you’re with a woman. Let her feel that you are taking care of her emotion…
/r/seduction15/02/20 03:34 AM
3

What’s false? Nobody said anything about race and color. Or are you implying that you’re not attracted to all races and therefore debunking me calling you out for only going after girls you were attracted to? I know you’re young. And I’ll give you props for coming on here and showing what you did AND for taking action of any kind. So kudos for trying something but really you need to drop your ego and defensiveness, stop lying and just do plain old approaching. It looks like this: “Excuse me, I w…
/r/seduction15/02/20 03:20 AM
10

Dummy. A rose IS a flower
/r/seduction15/02/20 12:41 AM
11

Dude. What? This is r/seduction. Passing out roses while good for you as a catalyst for approaching is sketchy at best. And don’t lie about not wanting to seduce them. You thought this would be “clever” and “romantic”. Otherwise your title wouldn’t have said anything about approaching or number count or rejections. It would have laid out your wholistic intent to simply give out roses. Let me guess, you only gave them to girls you were attracted to right?! Stop playing this group and stop lying t…
/r/seduction15/02/20 12:39 AM
0

It’s all the same thing. Women, life, work. I stand by what I said. Put some shit in your life that develops and is challenging. But it’s subjective. My things won’t be your things. It’s dumb thing to ask. And I still think your woman issue is real and your defense of it is bullshit. It’s woven all thorough your initial post buddy. Ps: I am aggressive/aggressive lol. Already told you that and it’s apparent. I have no passive aggression. That would be, since you seem to not know: backhanded comme…
/r/seduction10/02/20 03:25 PM
0

Who said I’m angry? Lol. For sure I am aggressive. I am in nearly all aspects of life. What is a life worth living is only able to be answered by you. It is not a question for a public forum bc the answer is purely subjective. Your reason is irrelevant to me and my reason is irrelevant to you. Like I said, I don’t believe that you approach regularly and if you do and have little success it’s bc you don’t know who you are (which might be why you are questioning what a “life worth living” is). Bc …
/r/seduction10/02/20 01:27 PM
0

You approach 5 women a day? I don’t believe you. You sound like the majority of men who are comfortable being a victim. And if you are talking to that many women and failing, it means you are scared of women and don’t have a well developed mouth piece. Go listen to Steve the Dean
/r/seduction10/02/20 12:34 PM
1

That’s a huge fucking lie. If you didn’t think about it so much, You wouldn’t be here.
/r/seduction10/02/20 11:46 AM
0

I don’t give a shit. Get off line. Go talk to women irl.
/r/seduction10/02/20 11:44 AM
1

Y’all need to check out The Man Mindset on YouTube
/r/seduction09/02/20 10:45 PM
1

It’s because you’re still doing those things thinking it will improve your dating life. So it’s false intention. Basically you have difficulty knowing who you are
/r/seduction09/02/20 10:38 PM
5

You are missing the point. Those are just examples. The point is to have a life that is occupied by some activities that you love that require challenge and development
/r/seduction09/02/20 10:36 PM
1

We often say things to ourselves we’d never say to a close friend or a loved one. Go figure
/r/seduction07/02/20 04:28 PM
2

I want you to make a list here telling us what you think will happen if you approach a woman to say hi. “Excuse me, good morning, I was on my way to work and your eyes really caught my attention. My name is Benjamin and you are?” She says good morning, probably thank you and her name. (Say her name) “Id like to talk longer but now I’m going to be late for work bc I had to stop. Here, take my card and get in touch if you’d like to get a coffee sometime. Ok, have a fantastic day (her name again)”.…
/r/seduction07/02/20 04:27 PM
1

Your whining is pissing in the wind and a form of procrastination. The best that will happen is women will only reinforce what you already believe about yourself and other whiny males will perhaps comfort you. Men on the other hand don’t give a shit how you feel. Women don’t give a shit how you feel and neither does the world. This is the harsh reality. So wipe your nose, put on your big boy pants and find a mentor who knows how to deal with life and women. And for god sakes stop watching PUA vi…
/r/seduction07/02/20 12:39 AM
2

With this attitude you will lose. Face reality instead of stating how you’d like reality to bend to your desires. And if your vision actually happened, do you realize that would mean women would be getting blasted by pretty much every guy that approached them? Not everyone is as nice as you. The game is hard bc women don’t want to be with average dudes. The sooner you realize this amongst other realities about the game the better. Yes, you will have to get off your phone and get to work and stop…
/r/seduction06/02/20 09:31 PM
2

Well you kids with “I want something so I’ll just press a button” type mindset are all gonna lose this game. Modern males are weak as shit and are deathly afraid of women. Becoming a man takes time and dedication and has absolutely NOTHING to do with women. Women are a perk to your life. That is all. Set up your chessboard and play to the game not the opponent that sits across from you no matter they male or female.
/r/seduction05/02/20 05:30 PM
1

Lol. I’m not avoiding the question. I’m telling you that it’s irrelevant what my review is. I don’t read movie reviews or restaurant reviews or ask other people’s opinions about xyz before I want to do something bc it’s only my own opinion that matters me. But that’s just me. The fact that you’re grilling me for my opinion (which should mean fuck all to you) instead of forming your own tells me the information isn’t for you. The fact that you “listened to him enough” says the info isn’t for you …
/r/seduction02/02/20 02:54 AM
1

How long is a while? Further, you still gotta do it on your own regardless of my experience. I could say I have bought all of the products but never got laid bc I’m actually a lazy bitch that didn’t put any of the lessons into practice. Or I could have bought none and tell you I did and that I’m getting my dick sucked right now. Either way you gotta taste the pizza for yourself.
/r/seduction31/01/20 11:54 AM
1

Just listen to his show for a while and make the choice for yourself
/r/seduction31/01/20 05:32 AM
1

Cold approach. Drop the PUA bullshit and learn who you are as a man. What are you going to do with PUA when you start seeing a girl? It will be worthless at that point and will be glaringly obvious that you’re a fake.
/r/seduction29/01/20 12:32 AM
1

Wrong “no big deal”. It’s more of having a well balanced perspective
/r/seduction26/01/20 02:02 AM
1

I agree with all that except the part about expecting things to not work out. I’d suggest having zero expectations either way and do what pleases you. If she likes what and how you do then she’ll come along for the ride. If she don’t, then she’ll get out the car sooner. All of it, positive or negative can easily be seen as no big deal.
/r/seduction25/01/20 11:08 PM
3

Agreed. Too many books. Too many YouTube videos. Too much time spent “preparing” and learning how to “pick up” girls. Nonsense! The best teacher in ANY quest is experience. So much time wasted learning external techniques when these boys should be learning about themselves: what rules and codes do they live by? What boundaries do they have? What do they want in a woman besides looking pretty? These boys wasting time runnin after scraps
/r/seduction25/01/20 11:04 PM
2

And get off your phones and talk to women in real life
/r/seduction25/01/20 11:00 PM
1

Really? You fell in love with this girl after knowing her for a few weeks? Not sure on the exact time scale but I’m sure it’s short. You don’t love her, you have oneitis. Keep doing what you’re doing but do it with multiple females. If you can go out with one, you can go out with 3. Learn to temper yourself. The more attention you get from women the easier it is to see clearly- but you must know what you want. Do you have criteria or do they just gotta look pretty and give you a hug?
/r/seduction25/01/20 10:59 PM
1

Agreed. But that’s a HUGE mental hurdle for most girls since slut shaming has been in the collective consciousness for decades
/r/seduction23/01/20 08:58 PM
1

Yes. It’s called plausible deniability. And as a guy if it’s your aim, it is wise to leave things open with options for her while still making it clear on your intent so you both play into the “it just happened” narrative.
/r/seduction23/01/20 08:51 PM
3

Been there. Keep doing what you are doing and write a lot. Find out what you’re so scared of. It’s just in your head. Approach a lot so much so that rejection doesn’t hurt.
/r/seduction21/01/20 09:43 PM
2

Agreed. As I have mentioned before that we are equal in basic human rights. As babies, we all are equal unless we look at genetic markers and then it becomes evident that we are not at all equal. I’m sorry but there are higher value people and lower value people. Someone with integrity, who has high standards for himself, is honest and hard working, contributes to his life, to his friends and family, the world, is of higher value than someone who thinks poorly of themselves, is lazy, does nothin…
/r/seduction16/01/20 02:17 PM
1

This is delusional. People are not equal. Human value on a base level is the same with regard to basic human rights but you’re delusional if you think you have the same value as someone who is honest with himself, has high integrity, has worked through his demons, has earned the respect of his peers, has developed high level traits in humanity, philosophy, science business or sports. Michael Jordan, arguably one of the best basketball players of all time is not equal to you. He has higher value,…
/r/seduction16/01/20 01:23 PM
2

Ok. But I have issue with the word “deserve”. Nobody in life deserves shit beyond basic human rights. If you’re talking about respect, nobody “deserves” respect. I don’t care if I am the King of Zamunda. If I haven’t behaved in a way that encourages people to give me respect then they won’t give it to me no matter how much I believe I deserve it. If you want respect I look at it this way: imagine a man you would pledge your fidelity to. Who you’d bend a knee to. Not out of conformity (judges, po…
/r/seduction16/01/20 01:13 PM
3

Actually the concept of “being myself” is kinda weird bc most people don’t know who they really are. The mind is plastic. New synapse pathways can be created by learning new activities and new thoughts, including the “personality”. Conversely, old and undesirable habitualized pathways become stronger via repetition as well. Remember, PUA techniques are just techniques. They will only work a little if at all if you have an underlying poor or undefined sense of self. But ironically once a man know…
/r/seduction14/01/20 10:32 PM
3

Yep. Sometimes if you’re talking well (and you know what I mean), you’re already fucking. But my main point is that you shouldn’t care no matter what. She could have a change of heart right before sex. If you’re in the mindset of “I expect sex will happen” it could lead to an undesirable emotional reaction in you. I’m saying: “No sex?” ok. “Yes sex?” Ok
/r/seduction13/01/20 05:48 PM
5

It also helps with your mental state to be sexual but not make it about getting sex, achieving a goal. It’s been incredibly attractive to women in my experience if I am sexual in general but I have the position of not caring if we have sex or if we don’t. BUT this not caring really needs to be a true feeling bc if you’re just copping that mindset you’re still actually looking at the end goal. Not caring must be true. Stay present
/r/seduction13/01/20 05:22 PM
2

Was gonna say the same thing
/r/seduction11/01/20 03:12 PM
14

It can be good for funzies and rapport but if you got no mouthpiece and no seductive honest vibe it’s just hanging out. It’s not seduction. But a man who is comfortable with his sexual self is fine in social circle, out with a couple friends, or on his own. If you’re having problems with girls it’s because that muscle between your ears is weak. Getting in with a social circle will just make you yet another option, thereby putting the girls in the group in the position of social power. An all too…
/r/seduction09/01/20 08:22 PM
1

It’s just a matter of perspective. Appreciate what she brought to you during that time. And also remind yourself that putting someone on the shelf does not mean that you’ve forgotten her. I’d also like to point out that you are romanticizing the whole situation. She’s not going to appreciate your efforts. This isn’t a movie. This whole scenario is in your head and nowhere else. You’re not even holding a candle for her bc the flame is long gone. Just a handful of melted wax that you’re afraid to …
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:45 PM
3

Honestly I think it’s much more relevant to discuss your comment about feeling inferior to her
/r/seduction08/01/20 01:46 PM
1

The heart is a funny thing. Big love is funny too. You love her but it’s over. Do you have any special items from your past? Mementos from a special time in your life? This girl is one of those but instead of putting her on a shelf or in a box, you are still holding onto her. And it’s not even her you are holding onto. She’s literally gone. You’re holding onto memories that are associated with certain feelings. My advice is to “put her on the shelf”. Appreciate her and what she meant to you. You…
/r/seduction08/01/20 01:43 PM
13

And even if you’re dating she’s not yours. After being your girl for 6 months she’s not yours. Even after getting married she’s not yours. A girl is never yours. She is only deciding to be with you until the vibe changes. Granted some women will make the investment in you if she feels you got the goods and will even fight for the relationship if it starts going in the gutter. But this is a somewhat rare occurrence in the 20’s and younger age ranges.
/r/seduction07/01/20 11:49 PM
3

You’ve pedestalized her and you probably aren’t talking to or dating any other girls. So all this pressure has been put on your shoulders by you bc you already like her and no nothing about her. This problem will happen to the next crush and the next until you can get out of your head and be comfortable talking to girls casually. You need more practice. Why not start with her and understand the chance is high that you will fail bc you don’t have the comfort built up yet from talking to lots of g…
/r/seduction07/01/20 11:45 PM
2

Not knocking approaching women. I’m saying that issues in approaching women stem from a deeper issue that probably has nothing to do with women at all. It’s in understanding self value. Getting in touch with this past ones ego is far more difficult than approaching women. But in facing these fears, approach anxiety becomes laughable.
/r/seduction05/01/20 07:03 PM
1

But state based game is the problem. States are transitory.
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:49 PM
1

You get it. Ever listen to Steve Williams?
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:47 PM
2

Truth be told, if one actually does self help and develop past their insecurities and fears that are way older than any surface issues with women, then pickup becomes a non-issue. No techniques will be necessary and will be seen as plastic nonsense that has no lasting value. It is us as MEN that have value. But until that is realized, using PUA techniques will only be a shield placed over an undeveloped male.
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:44 PM
3

Just tell them their shoes are untied
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:36 PM
1

No don’t. Tom Torero is a salesman. Look into how to be true to your nature unabashedly.
/r/seduction05/01/20 05:01 PM
5

All that PUA stuff is just going to get in the way. YOU are the most powerful asset you have. Not some tricks you learned up your sleeve. The biggest thing you need to do is dig inside yourself and find out what you’re afraid of and why. Dismantle it. Understand it. Then stop reading and ACT despite your discomfort. It will only shrink from self knowledge and repetition. No book or video will help you do this. You are your own problem but you are your own solution. The thing with all that dating…
/r/seduction05/01/20 04:59 PM
3

Agreed. It’s more about your mindset, lack of fear and enjoying yourself for yourself.
/r/seduction05/01/20 04:16 PM
1

Relax. Have fun. Don’t give a shit what the outcome will be. I’ll say it again: have fun. This is all you should be focused on.
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:48 PM
1

Download Pons translator as well as Duo Lingo and have fun
/r/seduction04/01/20 01:16 AM
2

Getting away from your fucking books, laptop and phone and talking to actual people irl. You need people skills not “product” skills
/r/seduction31/12/19 01:21 AM
3

Your answer is in your last paragraph bud. Those are all qualities that are the OPPOSITE of attractive. Cool, calm and outcome independent is the name of the game. And girls are naturally better and more in tune with the game and can smell fear and neediness a mile away.
/r/seduction30/12/19 10:06 PM
3

Yep. Firstly it’s lazy. I mean how easy is it to develop a crush on someone you see regularly. Too many opportunities to become stalkerish if that’s in you (which is the case for most young men these days with approach anxiety and a lack of simple bold masculinity) Basically it’s going for the low hanging fruit. Second, if it ends like most young relationships you are now stuck with whatever aftermath which is now slinking around your workplace. For instance what if you date for 6 months and the…
/r/seduction30/12/19 04:34 PM
2

Do NOT ever go after a girl at work. That’s elementary
/r/seduction30/12/19 04:02 PM
19

Do it for your own growth, positivity and enjoyment. Talk to girls bc you like talking to girls. If you don’t, find out why. Fear of rejection probably. A key thing to do is not look at every girl you approach as something heavy or with the idea that she could become something else. Just keep it simple, be honest, no pressure. Fear is the biggest thing bc girls can smell it on a guy even as you are walking toward her. Have a “no big deal” mindset. If she doesn’t like you she doesn’t like you. Yo…
/r/seduction29/12/19 03:21 PM
2

Just do what everyone else does. Start a YT channel, talk about these topics, have hangouts with guests, allow call-ins for people to ask questions live and use it all as marketing for the paid coaching stuff you have on your website (email coaching, call coaching, over text, however you want to do it)
/r/seduction27/12/19 10:16 PM
3

How do I save the playlist? For some reason when I tap the “play on Spotify” it just takes me to the app as I see it every day. I’m not taken to the playlist. Is it bc I don’t have a subscription?
/r/seduction27/12/19 04:09 PM
1

Agreed. The difference is in taking action but society is molding young men into being fearful echos of their true masculine selves. Too bad this is being whitewashed and persecuted. Nowadays most young guys are afraid to be themselves for fear of coming off as toxic. If I had the link I’d share it but I read a study not too long ago that women (feminists included) find the behavior that would be considered by today’s standards as “toxic masculinity” as arousing. Go figure...
/r/seduction26/12/19 06:17 PM
3

This only means you need to practice and grow irl. After that your online version will be that much better
/r/seduction26/12/19 01:27 PM
0

You left off: You think you’ll be together forever because she said “I do”? Wrong. She could file for divorce at any minute and the western court system will strongly be in her favor.
/r/seduction25/12/19 01:55 PM
1

The way to do this is to be upfront and absolutely clear about your intentions, which is to not get deeply involved. I just had an idea: what if you agreed to put a “timer” of 1-3 weeks on the relationship? Might be kinda cool. But listen, you can’t avoid women feeling used if you’re fucking them UNLESS you set the stage that it’s the two of you enjoying each other’s company and that it may not last. IME the only girls who don’t care are either free spirits or have a low self value.
/r/seduction20/12/19 04:27 PM
1

Dead
/r/seduction20/12/19 03:20 AM
1

Cool. Yeah I know of the Pavlov experiments I just don’t bother thinking on that level when it comes to women. I’m not trying to be mad scientist about shit. Personally I like the KISS approach. My own text game is quite varied. Sometimes I’m smooth, sometimes raunchy, sometimes boring, sometimes artistic, sometimes funny, sometimes only funny to myself hahaha. All depends on how I’m feeling
/r/seduction20/12/19 01:48 AM
3

That’s cool man. If it’s working for you AND you approach irl, then keep it going. As I mentioned before cold approaches to all sorts of humans has an effect that can’t be replicated anywhere. It also has something to do with your desire. LTR? Fun dates? Casual sex? Serious sex? Just some validation? But anyways, that’s good. Keep it up and keep growing. Find your fears and walk toward them (or run lol)
/r/seduction19/12/19 11:56 PM
2

Yes. When generally, the female is on SM for validation and guys use them as a means of avoiding rejection- we get a perfect storm. Think about it. It’s sort of like when one person has a problem and the other person is an enabler. But in this case BOTH are enablers of weak ass behavior. I’ll agree that digital communication has a very unique style to it that one should know well. The intricacies are kind of hard to describe. It also gives a false sense of accomplishment when you get a dialogue …
/r/seduction19/12/19 11:45 PM
1

Exactly. Dudes gotta break away from what’s fast and easy bc this produces low results if that, which leads to depression. The right mentality is to get to work. Start slow and build. Pretty much like everything else that’s worthwhile
/r/seduction19/12/19 07:16 PM
0

“irl you can converse and express your confidence a lot easier and gain attraction rather quickly” Isn’t this the goal brother? No app can produce this kind of result. Why? Bc women like to feel male energy. A skilled text can simulate this through imagination but it pales in comparison to being in front of them. “since many women have an abundance of guys to choose from on apps they tend to put in lower effort and it’s harder to gain attention” Exactly. So why the heck are you advocating for ap…
/r/seduction19/12/19 04:16 PM
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TLRRead if you want: 1) stop watching porn 2) work to improve everything in your life outside of women 3) talk to more women in every environment you’re in I agree with everything except the part about messaging girls on apps. This is still in the comfy place of our phones. No dating apps. No instagram (unless you get her insta AFTER talking to her IRL)
/r/seduction19/12/19 12:07 PM
1

Does nobody know about Steve in here? They should IMO
/r/seduction18/12/19 12:06 PM
1

I don’t think it’s a tiny group. Have you ever been to Comic Con?
/r/seduction18/12/19 03:21 AM
0

And you’re projecting. Oh wait, now I’m projecting and using sarcasm to COPE. Aaaaaaggghhhhh!
/r/seduction18/12/19 03:18 AM
2

I don’t use apps bc I feel it breeds laziness and probably depression. Women respond to their emotions being swayed. That’s why they like drama movies and tv shows and romance novels (largest selling book genre worldwide). I can’t chat a girl up on an app especially if I can’t say something first unless I pay for full access and that’s just some company taking my money when I can talk to girls for free with greater effect. No man can truly show who he is on an app. If he’s exceptionally good loo…
/r/seduction16/12/19 04:40 PM
2

I don’t use dating apps. I’m 42 and yes I have gotten girls in that range. I prefer it actually for my goals, which is to enjoy female company (for now). Not looking for LTR. So that age range is perfect. I currently have a 20 yr old in my roster (which I like to keep small bc I hate managing). She in fact is the most chill. Seems the older they get the crazier they get.
/r/seduction16/12/19 02:27 PM
3

Disagree to a degree. Young girls love older guys (if in shape and fairly good looking)
/r/seduction16/12/19 01:33 PM
2

It is. I don’t care enough to explain it to you in detail. Basically manipulation and influence are fruit from the same tree. They operate with the function of completing the influencers goals through various methods of coercion both callous and subtle. Whether it benefits the other person(s) or not is irrelevant. People can be manipulated for positive or negative aims. People can be influenced to positive or negative ends as well. Intent is also a factor to include as well as necessity dependin…
/r/seduction04/12/19 07:47 PM
1

Still semantics
/r/seduction04/12/19 06:44 PM
0

There is no difference. Semantics
/r/seduction04/12/19 06:04 PM
14

If a woman is at least a 7 or higher she has so many options you will have to be an exceptional male to make her chase OR you have to be skilled in mental manipulation
/r/seduction04/12/19 01:54 PM
1

Nope
/r/seduction30/11/19 12:00 AM
1

I’ll bet you $10 you already know the answer. If you know what oneitis is then you know what gets you there. If you know what gets you there then you know what gets you out. Stop playin yo self and us
/r/seduction26/11/19 09:30 PM
1

It’s a varied scale. Yes men are attracted to, and might want a pretty girl. BUT when the looks go up, generally the crazy goes up as well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 03:03 PM
3

It’s because the current social paradigm thanks to social media, is that 90% of women are wanting only 10% of men. Learn as much as you want. It won’t do much. 30% of American men in their 20’s and 30’s are incels and the number is increasing. We will match Japan in no time. In Japan 70% of the entire population of men are single. Marriage and children there are way down such that in 10 years or so, adult diapers are going to out-sell baby diapers. This is the US future as well no doubt.
/r/seduction23/11/19 12:55 AM
15

He did ask her out. It was denied (whether real or fake) but here’s the clincher: she didn’t add when she WAS available. She could have said “can’t I’m studying but after the test I’m free”. She just said no. To me that’s a sign that she like attention and nothing more
/r/seduction21/11/19 08:43 PM
0

If you’re hearing this stuff chances are you already are a nice guy.
/r/seduction21/11/19 02:10 PM
1

So they don’t get fucked by every loser or fake alpha or pushy creep that attempts to get in her pants
/r/seduction16/11/19 03:47 PM
1

Yeah it’s a shame. But I’ll tell you this: you’ll get way more traction with yourself and with females by approaching vs relying on the safe and distant form that is texting. I’ve never not even once got with a girl (meaning hooking up or getting laid) bc my text game was so on point. But I have had success by direct approach. Move away from being comfortable.
/r/seduction14/11/19 01:46 AM
1

Texting game shouldn’t even exist. Use text to make plans and not much more
/r/seduction13/11/19 03:24 PM
2

That’s cool but I’m my book dating and getting laid are two different things
/r/seduction05/11/19 02:35 AM
6

That’s exactly right. Putting you life in order isn’t a mystery. It’s always in development but the point is to always be working on it. For real. It means having healthy finances, a healthy body, a healthy mind, healthy relationships with friends and family, healthy alone time (hobbies). If you don’t have these things and are NOT working toward them then dating will be fruitless. If you don’t have all these things together but you’re actively putting in DAILY efforts toward improving them then …
/r/seduction04/11/19 02:30 PM
66

Your question is answered in the first part. The guy is good looking. On dating apps it’s all about looks and social proof.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:35 AM
7

Nah. #1 female currency is attention. This is why when at a bar if a 10 walks in they all secretly wish she’d die (or at least leave).
/r/seduction21/10/19 01:39 AM
1

I see what you’re saying. I haven’t really found a woman yet that I can tolerate for very long after limerence wears off. So I’ll just stick to good looks bc so far they seem to become annoying. If I’m going to eventually be annoyed they might as well be attractive while doing it...lol
/r/seduction07/10/19 03:12 PM
1

If you actually handed her one of those paper tickets used during raffles while saying that line I bet it would work.
/r/seduction07/10/19 02:49 PM
2

Why can’t older people fall in love? That makes no sense unless you mean that love is a purely cultural phenomenon with industries built into it that are set to capitalize from set of brain chemicals that fire off in the name of procreation bc human mammals have lost the trait of having a mating season.
/r/seduction07/10/19 02:46 PM
1

What’s wrong with a high level of interest in looks. Don’t know about you but I like young women with flat stomachs, fit bodies, clear skin and pleasant features vs fat, flabby, zitty and ugly. I don’t care how awesome your personality is, I can’t get a boner from it. Liking attractive people doesn’t make you an incel. It’s normal.
/r/seduction07/10/19 02:40 PM
10

Agreed. I don’t get in bed with my friends lol
/r/seduction24/09/19 08:05 PM
6

You acted appropriately. If it’s not a “hell yes” then it’s a “no”.
/r/seduction24/09/19 08:04 PM
3

Good game doesn’t “ask”. It presents and if she shows interest then you proceed. I’m guessing from your response that you have little knowledge in approaching and game. It IS complex but only, to your point, because we have become detached from our natural behavior. Becoming good at game until it’s natural is actually about skillfully tapping into your instincts. Getting to this point is what is complicated. It’s the dismantling of useless social programming that’s difficult. But if you want to …
/r/seduction19/09/19 09:21 PM
1

I agree with all of this here except the part about approaching. Many women (maybe most) are shy or insecure. Many have left their interest alone, silently hoping he would approach and say hi. It takes balls to cold approach. But to do it right is not simple and very subtle. Too complex to write about here. It’s mostly inner game...
/r/seduction19/09/19 07:35 PM
5

Just keep doing it. Just like any skill anyone is learning, the first few months is about quantity over quality. Keep going until you wear down your built up fears over rejection. Over time also improve who you are as a man. Read. Lift. Improve your wardrobe a bit. Save money. Get good at hobbies that are not video games. Over time your options will get better and better but this also means you will also need to learn how to properly vet women too. Good job on getting started!
/r/seduction19/09/19 07:29 PM
2

Nothing to disagree with. Great stuff
/r/seduction04/09/19 08:24 PM
1

It does. Check it out: At a glance women appreciate an attractive guy. Attractiveness is just visual. But arousal is based on how someone feels. Now for guys we can become aroused simply by looking at a hot girl. Often times women are moved by how they are made to feel. This is why an average looking guy with great game can get laid just as much if not more than a good looking guy with no game. I guess my point is that attraction and arousal are two different things and to get the girl you gotta…
/r/seduction28/08/19 05:45 PM
1

“You” is an illusion of attachments my dude. Fun fact: The word ‘personality’ comes from the Latin word ‘persona’, which was the name for the masks worn at the amphitheater. These masks had a megaphone attached to front for vocal amplification. To a certain degree, what we consider an immobile persona is actually quite plastic. Depends on a number of factors
/r/seduction28/08/19 01:08 PM
0

Replace attractive with arousing.
/r/seduction28/08/19 12:58 PM
5

I don’t disagree in that our beliefs can paint our perceptions. But you can’t deny the data that’s out there regarding women’s attitudes toward good looks. What I think guys get confused about is attraction vs arousal. If you take 100 women and show them 100 different photos of men, with say, 20 of them being male models, all 20 will be chosen by the 100 as “attractive” men. Dudes read studies like this and say “SEE THEY CARE ABOUT LOOKS”. What they fail to realize is attraction is simple and ea…
/r/seduction28/08/19 12:42 PM
1

Number 3 but it only works if you truly dgaf
/r/seduction23/08/19 02:01 PM
0

It’s fine. Just make sure you have your logistics in order (condoms, toys, beer/wine/liquor/weed). Have upbeat music for the activity and some ideas on what food to order.
/r/seduction23/08/19 01:03 AM
3

I’ll have to agree. I’m 42 and I only have slept with girls in their mid twenties during the past year. I’m in shape and look dangerous so that helps. But shit, my beard is 75% gray! They do not care. It also helps that I don’t hang out with their friends. I always turn down parties and chilling at the beach. I’ve made it clear that when I’m called they know who they’re calling and why.
/r/seduction19/08/19 02:03 AM
1

Lol burn!
/r/seduction19/08/19 01:55 AM
5

Oh no, I am definitely suggesting Jekyll and Hyde. But of course not all the time. Frankly no “mode” should be used too frequently. I mentioned that first part because I didn’t want some young inexperienced reader to think rough sex is what it’s all about and take things too far and end up hurting the girl. That’s why I mentioned being calibrated. You can lose yourself but still keep one eye on the overall situation.
/r/seduction16/08/19 08:34 PM
22

Ok but I must step in here and say a guy must also be calibrated. Don’t get carried away and not notice she’s no longer having fun. It’s also great to offer a roller coaster effect by being crazy passionate one moment while saying sweet things like how beautiful she is. Then change it up the next moment by being more gentle and sensual while whispering really raunchy things to her. Read the sex god method and employ the D.E.V.I. method.
/r/seduction16/08/19 07:54 PM
1

Very well explained
/r/seduction11/08/19 08:14 PM
3

Fuck yeah man
/r/seduction05/08/19 11:39 PM
5

Fantastic write up. I think you covered everything, and well!
/r/seduction29/07/19 07:24 PM
1

If you don’t play games (the entire mating practice is a “game”), then what are you doing participating in this group?
/r/seduction28/07/19 08:02 PM
3

I think you read into his comment too much and made assumptions about things that weren’t there.
/r/seduction28/07/19 08:00 PM
3

I make this really simple and it sums up all the good perspectives commented here, including the OP: Treat women like cats (if you like cats that is heh). Be chill, be inviting, be playful. Don’t go after a cat for it’s company bc it will likely run away. Don’t grab a cat and make it sit with you. Just be chill. If the cat wants to sit on your lap it will, and when it wants to leave bc it’s hungry or bored or annoyed, just let it go. It’ll come back around eventually, especially if you have a ba…
/r/seduction28/07/19 07:56 PM
1

Pot. Jk
/r/seduction26/07/19 03:25 AM
1

She’s a manager at a hotel. Maybe side gig?
/r/seduction26/07/19 01:04 AM
0

Holy shit. Men are so stupid for pussy sometimes. Sheesh
/r/seduction25/07/19 11:24 PM
0

What? That happened and men actually gave their money away??
/r/seduction25/07/19 10:44 PM
0

No I don’t qualify at the onset. Especially with gold digging ratchets who ask for money on their 3rd message. What’s to qualify? Lol The rest of the dialogue was me just messing with her for being a gold digger I showed this as an example of what’s happened many females. This girl is maybe just above average in looks.
/r/seduction25/07/19 10:09 PM
2

Well I guess then you were doing the right thing with the right person. 👍
/r/seduction25/07/19 08:19 PM
2

Not sure. I asked her
/r/seduction25/07/19 08:16 PM
1

Nah, I did a small neg and she flipped out in all caps. She’s not joking at all. Ratchet gold digger. I’d show the rest but tossed it.
/r/seduction25/07/19 08:14 PM
1

She had two pics. One in just a thong and one in a fishnet catsuit. I joked that if we go out she can even wear normal clothes if she wants. Lol
/r/seduction25/07/19 08:11 PM
-5

I’m just playing with her now, implying that she’s a prostitute lol
/r/seduction25/07/19 07:57 PM
1

I’ll agree with you on the low quality. But it’s true that thirsty men help facilitate this behavior in women. How could she be asking for money if no man ever gave any?
/r/seduction25/07/19 07:26 PM
2

Good job. You already had it going for you. Understand that if she wasn’t attracted to you she wouldn’t have even spoke to you that long. Getting the number was in the bag. Good job not in taking the risk, as there was little risk, but more so for going with the apparent flow.
/r/seduction25/07/19 07:23 PM
1

What kind of car do you drive?
/r/seduction25/07/19 04:53 PM
1

I ruined Christmas for my kids. Fuck some imaginary fat fuck taking my credit. I tell em who got their presents and they are much more grateful for it.
/r/seduction24/07/19 11:45 PM
1

Um...learn some game. Learn to tease. Learn kino. You have the hardest part taken care of
/r/seduction24/07/19 11:33 PM
1

“Indirect” is creepy. Probably what’s not working is that YOU know you want to get in her panties, SHE knows you want to get in her panties but you are likely approaching her with the vibe, words and intent that you’re not. This is not only confusing, disingenuous and reeks of lack of confidence and creepiness.
/r/seduction24/07/19 03:56 PM
3

And it will be (and always has been) those big bad rappers who are true to their costume and the kardashians who are true to theirs will (and always have been) at the top of the pecking order. That said, there is a rise in dominant women and while some may be genuine, many are following stride because society is pressuring women that they “should” be masculine or they are doing a disservice to women. Same is happening to men and masculinity. Masculinity is being demonized and “feminine” behavior…
/r/seduction24/07/19 12:29 PM
5

Very well stated.
/r/seduction24/07/19 12:17 PM
2

I have been in a relationship. Many. And you are right, variety is the spice of good sex. Nobody said anything about rough sex every night. Not sure where you are getting that from. I’m a dom/bull but I’m not rough all the time. Being in charge can be sensual as well.
/r/seduction24/07/19 12:05 PM
3

Agreed but that’s not my point obviously. Don’t miss the forest for the trees my dude. Point is: all this fighting for the life they want (a life more like men) and the men they want (more like women) is going to lead to a shit ton of very unhappy women and lost men.
/r/seduction24/07/19 11:54 AM
1

While pushing down masculinity. But in years to come when all these soy boy 20 somethings are the only available men, these masculine women will be heartbroken when their partners ask them if it’s okay to have sex (for fear of metoo). And they can forget about getting thrown against the wall and ravished. Jokes on them in a sad way.
/r/seduction24/07/19 02:46 AM
1

Cheating (or any behavior) isn’t intrinsically “beta” or “alpha” (I cant stand those terms). It’s about your attitude in general. A cheater could be in their masculinity. A cheater could be out of their masculinity.
/r/seduction23/07/19 02:26 PM
8

But gents, please understand that this is but one facet. Basically improve in every area that you are and every area of your life: clothes, posture, fitness, finances, attitude, social circle, activities, bedroom attitude (read the sex god method), straight fucking skill, giving head, hand skills, massage, conversational skills, flirting, etc etc. It’s a lot but take bite sized portions in study and application and work at it all. Consistency is key!
/r/seduction22/07/19 03:39 PM
1

The oneitis is the real problem. I’m only banging one chick (24yrs old) at the moment. No dates. Just dinners at her place and lots of nasty sex. I made it clear I don’t want to be anyone’s boyfriend (including her) and we even talk about the other guys that take her out and spend money on her. Then she calls me later for the smash, heh-heh-heh. She could vanish tomorrow and it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. I’ve spun plates and frankly it’s too much work. One pussy is fine for me. Maybe i…
/r/seduction20/07/19 08:09 PM
1

Agreed. “Attraction” (initial interest) is based on looks. “Arousal” (drawing them in emotionally/physically) is based on game.
/r/seduction20/07/19 02:49 PM
2

And to your point- even if after the fact you figured out why, what good would it do you now?
/r/seduction16/07/19 03:50 AM
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Frankly there’s too many factors and not enough data from your post to figure things out. My advice is to move on. I personally don’t deal with women who aren’t a “hell yes”. That luke warm/maybe nonsense is either teasing or control or indecisiveness. It also leads to over analyzing their behavior which puts you in their frame. Those girls can keep walking. I’ll take my hell yes’s.
/r/seduction15/07/19 05:51 PM
2

This sort of thing reeks of askholes. Asking question after question, gaining buckets of responses sometimes. But it comes down to one thing: taking your balls out and taking action. So what if said dweeb gets all his dumb questions answered. What if he gets a dialogue going? What if he gets a date? Then what? What will he DO when it’s time to get away from a screen and truly interact. All these inexperienced youngins need to get their noses out of the screen thinking google has the answer to da…
/r/seduction12/07/19 11:26 PM
1

Talking to actual people in meatspace is real game. Talking to someone on Instagram is just a game.
/r/seduction12/07/19 11:20 PM
2

“Don’t you have to pee or something? My bathroom is right upstairs” lol
/r/seduction08/07/19 07:56 PM
1

Ok. It sounded like you were criticizing the fact that they are given more leeway (which they aren’t). When in reality they have to operate within a totally different set of rules.
/r/seduction08/07/19 07:54 PM
2

Different “rules” for men compared to women. Men are measured on their competency (amongst other things). So if a man is socially inept, physically weak, physically clumsy it looks much worse. The measure scale isn’t unilateral. Each had their own measure stick and they are different.
/r/seduction08/07/19 02:36 AM
8

Not surprising at all. Girls/women are way more socially intelligent and calibrated than the majority of men. These techniques we learn, they simply grow into by paying attention to social cues and all that. Her behavior is pretty much on par with any girl that finds you attractive.
/r/seduction07/07/19 10:04 PM
2

Basically. And guys that do get some interaction from women should understand that they’re not going to attract every woman they talk to.
/r/seduction06/07/19 10:59 PM
9

It’s pretty simple guys: if it’s not a “hell yes” then it might as well be a “no”. Why would you want to spend time with someone who isn’t “hell yes” about you anyway??
/r/seduction06/07/19 06:57 PM
4

Basically creating emotional variety. Aka having fun with conversation like an art form (which it is). Great points friend
/r/seduction02/07/19 07:08 PM
2

Frankly I get bored talking to most people. Here’s the trick: talk about what excites you in life. Get them to talk about what excites them. A passion filled conversation is the best kind to have no matter who you’re with.
/r/seduction02/07/19 07:04 PM
2

Yep. And the passing of said DNA is why we have this big ol dance called dating. Can’t blame them
/r/seduction01/07/19 07:40 PM
5

Never mind what is said. Only pay attention to what is done. Golden rule
/r/seduction29/06/19 09:49 PM
3

There’s no better teacher than experience. You can read all you want about swimming but until you actually get in the pool you’ll never really know, no matter how many books you read on the subject 😉
/r/seduction21/06/19 08:23 PM
5

“You’re too short for me” “That’s not what your mom said” Works every time
/r/seduction20/06/19 10:43 PM
8

It doesn’t belong here bc it’s a product pitch
/r/seduction18/06/19 07:43 PM
6

“How to pick up white girls 101 in just SIX steps” Rofl. Obviously the steps are huge generalizations like “improve your appearance”. This could take some weeks, months or even years. Sadly there are enough video game playing, mommas basement living, instaho liking simps out there that this dude is gonna get paid.
/r/seduction18/06/19 07:41 PM
1

Do I really need to explain the options??
/r/seduction16/06/19 01:51 PM
4

69 is way overrated
/r/seduction16/06/19 02:00 AM
1

Find yourself a copy of Sex God Method. Just dig around on the Net. You’ll find it. Yes you need some physical techniques. For hand techniques check out “Hunk Hands” on xvideos. No joke. Squirt master with his hands. SGM book is all about getting in her head. They say a woman’s mind is her most erogenous zone. This is true.
/r/seduction16/06/19 01:59 AM
51

Stop focusing on what you lack. Focus instead on what you have and work toward what you want.
/r/seduction08/06/19 06:54 PM
1

Doesn’t matter. Attracting women is attracting women. Just bc you have a gf at some point doesn’t mean you’re not attracted to other women anymore right? Same thing
/r/seduction06/06/19 03:21 AM
1

Nope. Spin them all. Just be honest and say you are also seeing other women. Girls have a love/hate thing with competition for male attention
/r/seduction06/06/19 03:19 AM
5

Nothing at the moment but any question starting with ‘why’ or ‘how’ or ‘when’. Questions that start with ‘do you...’ often can be answered with one word. ‘Why’ questions are the best bc you are asking the person for their perspective on something and it can really get the ball rolling.
/r/seduction05/06/19 08:20 PM
2

Yep. Saw that vid. One kick
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:58 PM
1

To be fair I actually was quite tired and half inebriated. But yeah, your advice is simple and solid. In hindsight she sort of probed me like that. While we were walking she said “if you have some extra energy you can take a walk down XYZ street and check out blah blah blah”. Now that I think on it this could have been her testing my energy or (lol) sensing a bit of my desire and made attempts to find a way to get rid of me, hahaha. I also was sleeping on her friend, who’s house we went to (last…
/r/seduction03/06/19 02:48 AM
1

That’s exactly my point. I AM aware. Maybe I’m a twisted fuck who likes to puppeteer? But I said it before, I’m not pleased with the outcomes. I want to continue getting laid and I like giving pleasure but there is a cost. And there’s probably plenty of guys just like me, learning game, learning how to make girls squirt, how to drop that D properly and leaving decent girls wondering what’s wrong with them that the dude doesn’t want them beyond sex? It’s messed up. Then dudes wonder why girls are…
/r/seduction28/05/19 09:08 PM
1

Yep. That’s what I’m saying in other words. She says “where is this going?” Basically asking for your commitment. The guy can stay and bang longer but a breakup is inevitable. The guy moves on to another leaving that blasted puss for someone else. Then when guys are in their 30’s and looking for a girl to accompany him on his life path all he finds are used up thots who were just looking for a boyfriend but were ran through by dudes like me. I (as well as many men like me) am in effect making it…
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:51 PM
1

And to remark about divorce: the rates are high. I think they are lower now but that may be due to less people getting married. Those that do stay together only a very small percentage are happy. The majority just slog through the day to day and stick together for the kids or finances or what their church might think or friends or whatever. I know lots of married couples and you can see it in the guys eyes.
/r/seduction28/05/19 11:20 AM
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Hey OP: sorry for threadjacking
/r/seduction28/05/19 03:08 AM
1

It’ll have to start with her either not having an Instagram account or if she does it’s not filled with validation seeking selfies. She’ll also need to have a healthy relationship with her father. Good luck on finding both of those in one of today’s western women. Lol
/r/seduction28/05/19 02:59 AM
1

Interesting perspective but I’m not beating myself up at all. I simply notice what happens and I don’t like it. I am not relationship material in almost all respects. But when a girl gets her mind blown sexually it really does something to their behavior after. I’ve never had a woman blow me off after sleeping w me despite having clear symbols that I’m not relationship material. Doesn’t stop them from wanting one. Then when the rejection happens (even after I was clear in my intentions) they get…
/r/seduction28/05/19 02:56 AM
2

Exactly. Now imagine what the economy might look like if you removed everything related to partnership? Marriage industry and all of those millions from flowers to $6000 wedding dresses; tons of movies; tv shows; commercials; pop songs; clothing; makeup; gym memberships; magazines; dating apps; dating websites; etc etc. Yes the human nature to procreate is there and drives a lot of what we do. But the piles and piles of crap in culture that blows up, intensifies and warps our perceptions and des…
/r/seduction28/05/19 02:15 AM
1

Agreed. And long ago this worked out fine. Marriage was more of a business transaction. But when Romanticism became infused and people married for “love” it all got warped. Fast forward to decades of social programming from various media sources and the cancerous nature of what social media is doing to dating and partnership and you have a pile of poo. What is happening today is far from what our biology is intending.
/r/seduction28/05/19 02:05 AM
1

I mentioned this above. I am clear that I am only good for a fun time. Doesn’t stop their hearts. When you make a girl cum harder than she ever has and can’t stop her body from shaking it does something to her mind. IME in some cases, an unhealthy obsession (which actually might just be her liking me a lot- who knows). In any case I’ve broken a lot of hearts and it doesn’t sit well with me.
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:59 AM
1

I speak only from my experience. I am very very good in bed. Every woman I have ever been with has fallen for me. Maybe I picked the screwy ones that get obsessive (it’s possible). But either way I saw the trajectory. I knew what they wanted after having their minds and bodies opened up to being vulnerable and trusting. But I hurt them all. Even the ones I told at the onset that I’m not for anything but a good time. Still fell in love. Why? BC almost all the girls I’ve come across believe they c…
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:55 AM
1

There is a gap. But if you keep it up being a gray area eventually the girl (if she likes you) will ask “where is this going?” If she doesn’t like you it won’t last that long. Girls want to be hitched up. In their 20’s they play, then in their 30’s they get the calling biologically as well as from society to procreate. Some ignore the impulse but it’s not the common route. If they play too long betting their options they may shoot themselves in the foot the closer they get to The Wall. Once that…
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:48 AM
5

I am friends with many couples. All of them are unhappy relatively speaking. They look upon my life of freedom, doing what I want with the money that is mine alone with pure envy. Especially when I tell them I spent the weekend at the motorcycle track and cracking beers with entrepreneurs while they need to ask permission from their “wives” if they can meet up with the boys but for an hour or two. Speaking of which, if you go into a bar around 6/7pm you’ll see (at least here in nyc) tons of two …
/r/seduction28/05/19 01:40 AM
0

Yes that is there, but Rom Coms and Disney and twu wuv are not. Marriage is not. The whole culture of what we know of partnership today in the west is completely fabricated. The only primal instinct is that of procreation/self preservation. Relationships and the paths toward them that culture encourages? They’re not real.
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:56 PM
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But therein lies a trap if you have a moral compass. If she goes deep into you, ie she learns to trust you, and you sleep w her but offer no commitment, you essentially become part of the larger problem as well. Sadly, if you go the other route and commit, it will lead to LTR/marriage and that is a trapping as well for men. So you either use women and leave them fucked up for the next guy or you get married and get ruined yourself (statistically most married men are miserable, sexless and bound …
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:27 PM
6

What’s crazier is how much society pushes men toward women period.
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:19 PM
9

It’s not mental gymnastics. All of this happens in a split second. It’s merely an explanation of what’s happening and the intricacies of verbiage. It’s not like anyone consciously thinks of these things in the moment. At least I hope not cuz that would be lame.
/r/seduction23/05/19 07:29 PM
5

There’s a number of ways that develop for your own personality frame but often in the beginning the frame is “I don’t give a shit what she thinks”. A common response style is called “agree and amplify”. So to the shirt comment you could say “yes of course! I knew I was going out with you” (emphasis placed on the “you”, followed by a smirk and a smack on the ass).
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:28 PM
2

Dick pedestal FTW!
/r/seduction22/05/19 08:09 PM
6

I’ve said it before. True mastery is when you can comfortably treat women like cats.
/r/seduction22/05/19 08:06 PM
2

It’s knowing (feeling) your value as departed from external validation.
/r/seduction22/05/19 08:04 PM
11

“Are you honestly wearing that shirt to dinner?” “Didn’t you hang out with your friends/last/ weekend?” “I expected you to be taller based on your photos from Tinder”
/r/seduction22/05/19 08:00 PM
4

Yes. And always, a cat will get annoyed or pissed if you try to make it sit with you. Unless you pack kitty treats ;)
/r/seduction20/05/19 08:25 PM
65

I tell my friends this all the time. All you gotta do is treat women like cats. In the case of bringing one home, you treat her like you would an adopted young cat. Let it get familiar with the place before playing with that pussy.
/r/seduction20/05/19 11:57 AM
3

And he genuinely loves them all but obviously he loves himself the most lol
/r/seduction16/05/19 10:38 PM
2

The things you already tell yourself are equally false. It’s all false. What you have now seems real only bc you have been wearing those glasses for quite some time. So it feels weird and imposterish when you try on new glasses. But here’s the caveat: you must also practice improvement in all areas of your life. You don’t want to become another Dunning Kruger victim or a toranoko.
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:04 PM
4

Like Thor
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:00 PM
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But the genes are there which is the point he was making. How they got there is a whole different conversation
/r/seduction13/05/19 08:32 PM
6

You can feel this way even if meeting lots of girls. It isn’t not getting the girl (for me). Usually it’s being disappointed in my mistakes in hindsight. But there’s no losing. Just winning and learning.
/r/seduction11/05/19 07:56 PM
9

Precisely. She was told “come over for an evening of fun”. She heard “we might fuck”. She came over ffs! She was at least partially open to the idea bc who expects a game arcade? She was expecting the D.
/r/seduction10/05/19 08:28 PM
1

Attraction and arousal can’t be negotiated. It’s in bold folks: she said she’s not gonna see him again (translated: “I wasn’t getting aroused or attracted). It’s that simple.
/r/seduction10/05/19 08:25 PM
1

Stay present. Enjoy your time with her as much as you want. But like a cat in your lap, when she needs to go you let her. After she is gone, again, stay present. It’s putting your mind in the past and future that will bring anxiety.
/r/seduction09/05/19 10:33 PM
1

A study was done on women where they were show pictures of men either smiling or straight faced. No surprise, the straight faced men all were ranked more attractive than the smiling ones
/r/seduction08/05/19 07:52 PM
1

Check out SDL King on YT. Great stuff and very well thought out approach. His thing is all about frame.
/r/seduction07/05/19 07:31 PM
1

Ah! Hahaha. So too much time has passed and despite fantastically flirtatious and engaging conversation, a local bloke got to her. Part of me was expecting that and another wanted to believe it wouldn’t happen. The visit to Toronto is still happening but she said she needs to “pump the brakes on the flirting thing bc one of the guys she’s dating has become more serious”. That’s fine, but what’s odd is that she deleted our Instagram chat history. Not bothered by it but it’s weird. It’s not like h…
/r/seduction02/05/19 02:17 PM
8

There is high chance of failure in this challenge unless one already has the skill of discipline. Which they probably don’t bc if they did, they wouldn’t need such a ridiculous challenge to begin with. Setting lofty goals opens a large window for failure acceptance. It’s easy to say “I failed at climbing Mt Everest”. It is much harder to say “I failed at walking 3 miles this week”. As a former personal trainer I would see this all the time. People would come in with these lofty goals in their he…
/r/seduction23/04/19 11:29 PM
2

👏 👏
/r/seduction19/04/19 08:53 PM
4

I’m bald, bearded (gray), tattooed and I lift. I know they love my bald head when it’s between their legs
/r/seduction18/04/19 08:42 PM
2

Agreed OP. The basic frame is an easy-going, no fucks given with outcome independence. Really, it’s our heads (and game technique) that gets in the way. Be chill. Don’t give a fuck. Have logistics
/r/seduction18/04/19 08:40 PM
1

Thanks but not date ideas. That’s been set for Toronto. I just need ideas about what “surprise” I have planned for when I get there.
/r/seduction17/04/19 01:58 PM
2

A snuggly union suit
/r/seduction17/04/19 11:05 AM
3

3,13,23,32. All threes. It’s a conspiracy. These are the same minute markers showing fakery in the first nasa video as well as pyramid coordinates so the aliens can land. You’re busted
/r/seduction17/04/19 10:58 AM
1

Deez nuts aren’t nut nuts, they’re meat nuts.
/r/seduction17/04/19 10:37 AM
1

Oh dude it’s going to be off the hook. We’ll be hitting up Oasis- the premier sex club in town. She’s been wanting to go but she keeps that part of her personality hidden from her friends. So of course I’m like “let’s go!”
/r/seduction13/04/19 03:35 AM
1

That’s kind of what I’m getting at. It’s a fine balance I guess between keeping the embers stoked and maintaining mystery/interest. Bc I do know that space does in fact gets that hamster wheel going.
/r/seduction13/04/19 03:13 AM
1

She’s not the chasing type so she wouldn’t make it known she wants more interaction. I have no idea
/r/seduction12/04/19 08:59 PM
1

I don’t believe I am but I’ll take your words into consideration. From my experience with normal dates, if I chat it up too much between the time of making plans and the actual date, it kills the energy and the anticipation. So in a weeks time, little to no communication is usually fine. But with two months between setting and meeting there can and likely will be ebbs and flows of energy that might require calibration. I’m fine calibrating. Just have never had a date so far out before.
/r/seduction12/04/19 08:58 PM
3

To be fair I look like a rugged dude and always have engine grease under my fingernails lol. Takes days for it to go away. No problem with the ladies. I say just be comfortable and confident in who you are. Not every girl likes clean cut dude but not every girl likes a rugged SOB like me either.
/r/seduction12/04/19 08:13 PM
2

You made the common mistake of being a sniper type approacher. Be more like a scatter shot gun. Approach and talk to all sorts of people in all sorts of situations. When you get so used to it that you don’t even realize that you talk to everyone, then you make specific approaches to girls you are attracted to. Doing it your way will stress you out bc your mind isn’t conditioned and you are placing too much emphasis on win/lose. It’s actually better that you didn’t approach her bc all of that ner…
/r/seduction12/04/19 08:08 PM
1

These are great. And for the fellow who asked about day game, it’s pretty much the same with slight modifications. Temper the changes to the environment you’re in.
/r/seduction05/04/19 01:28 AM
1

It all depends on the rapport. The above is probably coming from a place of already setting a flirtatious and sexual tone.
/r/seduction19/03/19 11:18 PM
2

Actually I agree with the above. Set a date then lay it to rest
/r/seduction19/03/19 11:16 PM
9

Yep. She’s been planning a branch reach probably for weeks. Was asked to go on a trip for St.Patricks day by her new guy. It’s all good with one simple inner game trick: treat women like cats. If they are with you, cool. When they want to leave, let them. If they want to sit on your lap again it’s your choice if you want cat hair on your pants or not. Force the cat to sit in your lap and often it runs away.
/r/seduction19/03/19 08:03 PM
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