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1

Says the guy who needs to chase women.
/r/seduction18/09/24 06:29 PM
1

You can do a bit. But relationships are essentially about power. Whoever needs the other less has the power. Women always have multiple backup options as well. A man chasing just looks desperate.
/r/seduction17/09/24 09:36 PM
2

The woman should do most. If you are chasing as a man, then you just become another one of her orbiters. Women always chase if they are attracted.
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:33 PM
0

Yeah, that's a factor. I'll jump back on eventually. In fairness I'd say most of my lays have probably been around the summer months.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:27 PM
3

Fair enough. I wouldn't recommend it, though. The girl should be chasing.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:01 PM
1

Yeah, that's right. It happens. Sometimes get terrible streaks where nothing seems to be going well, and then others where everything just falls into place.
/r/seduction17/09/24 02:54 PM
3

Unless the girl is using them, I just can't imagine it. Maybe these women just like the power and know that this guy will put up with all of her shit, like fucking other guys. Women don't respect men who are below them in SMV.
/r/seduction17/09/24 01:36 PM
3

It's just part of the game. These things are inevitable. Don't put too much stock into individual women. If anything, I go in with low expectations anyway, so anything more is a bonus.
/r/seduction17/09/24 11:14 AM
2

They have access to social media and dating apps now. This greatly changes their perceptions.
/r/seduction17/09/24 09:25 AM
1

This is what women wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:05 AM
1

If you don't meet a woman's extremely high looks threshold, then it's game over.
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:11 AM
3

Do you see that? That's an extremely rare pairing. That isn't a good deal for the man to be less physically attractive.
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:06 AM
3

There isn't someone for everyone. That's impossible.
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:04 AM
4

Yes, unfortunately.
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:03 AM
1

Stop reaching out other than to arrange a meet. Let her initiate contact otherwise (but always respond). Stop being so readily available.
/r/seduction16/09/24 08:42 PM
1

Unfortunately true. Juggernaut law is a huge thing.
/r/seduction16/09/24 05:19 PM
1

Some people are objectively more attractive than others. A recessed chin and other deformities are not considered attractive. These women were just less attractive than me. I just see them as delusional. But it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:05 PM
1

Why would they think you're less attractive even if you're objectively more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:24 PM
1

That too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:20 PM
14

You can be kind, but call out bullshit when you see it from people. Particularly early on. They will realise that they can't do that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:08 PM
22

Don't say things like "Would you like to meet up?" and instead say things like "We should meet up/hang out" and choose the time and place and say to meet here. Stop asking for permission. Don't be afraid to disagree or call out bullshit.
/r/seduction16/09/24 02:06 PM
1

I was never talking about me. I literally had cosmetic work done, and suddenly, my results were night and day. My "personality" didn't change. I know just how important looks are. I'm living proof. However many men simply do have no hope due to being so ugly. They've given up. That's just natural selection.
/r/seduction16/09/24 01:53 PM
1

What situation is that?
/r/seduction16/09/24 01:47 PM
1

I do fine already, just women on the apps only like 5% of men. Also, define higher quality...
/r/seduction16/09/24 12:57 PM
0

Women don't need to stand out on apps as they always get inundated with attention. Men have to be attractive on these apps. The way to set you apart is to be attractive. Confidence doesn't mean shit if you're ugly.
/r/seduction16/09/24 12:11 PM
3

Yep, I agree. Massive lesson learned. I thought it was a done deal, but I've learned from my mistake.
/r/seduction16/09/24 12:09 PM
2

So, if you're rejected right away, how are you meant to showcase these "important" things such as confidence?
/r/seduction16/09/24 11:36 AM
2

I do take care of myself, but many women have completely unrealistic physical standards for men. Hence why they "struggle." Women swipe left on 95% of men on Tinder, for instance.
/r/seduction16/09/24 11:35 AM
5

That is true, perhaps they could lower their standards a bit.
/r/seduction16/09/24 11:07 AM
3

And their unrealistic physical standards that they have. You won't be able to showcase these supposed good things if women reject you right off the bat due to their exceptionally high standards. I'm not bitter, I just see reality.
/r/seduction16/09/24 11:04 AM
0

Often their standards are just too high.
/r/seduction16/09/24 07:37 AM
4

Often, because women shoot too high on the apps and only go after the most desirable men.
/r/seduction16/09/24 06:59 AM
1

Possibly.
/r/seduction16/09/24 06:58 AM
7

"Nice bra. But it would look better on me!"
/r/seduction15/09/24 11:08 PM
26

You could be in danger. She could lure you somewhere for you to get robbed/jumped. "Doesn't look good enough" - Their standards are often extremely delusional anyway. Criminals? Many of them don't even care.
/r/seduction15/09/24 11:08 PM
14

I unfortunately made that mistake in July where I brought up being exclusive with an Italian girl. She definitely lost attraction after that.
/r/seduction15/09/24 10:45 PM
58

That's insane as well given how easy it is for them on the apps.
/r/seduction15/09/24 10:32 PM
2

It really doesn't take much...
/r/seduction15/09/24 09:55 PM
2

Yep, that's pretty much him. He finds it easy because he knows that the woman is actually attracted to him on some level since they matched and so he's much more comfortable initiating as opposed to guessing in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:54 PM
1

Majority have been sent their own way. They're just coping as they're too unattractive to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:47 PM
0

Sounds like these guys mostly are unattractive. If they weren't, they wouldn't get divorced in most cases and just do hookups. If you look at most MGTOW, you can understand why they'd find it appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:52 PM
2

Fucked by the system how?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:35 PM
3

I didn't say all. I said most.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:16 PM
1

I mean, most MGTOW are pretty much incels anyway. Let's be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:48 PM
2

Your aunt actually said that? Wow, that's Brutal. I'm sorry to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:45 PM
3

I agree, I know an autistic good-looking guy who has women approach him in bars and gets thousands of Tinder likes. He never approaches, though, as he still has social anxiety around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:40 PM
2

Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Had decent success from other dates since which is promising. When I went out last night, I had one girl come up to me and got some attention with others checking me out, but nothing major. But again, it's promising.
/r/seduction15/09/24 07:59 AM
1

This seems to upset you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:38 PM
–

So if you need to chase, then you're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:38 PM
1

Well, women do have far greater sexual access and value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:53 AM
1

Unfortunately, I can get very depressed when rejcted and just makes me think like I've got no hope. I focus more on the failures than the successes (even if I'm doing much better than ever before).
/r/seduction13/09/24 10:15 AM
3

I'm in a similar boat. My last relationships showed to me that I have a lot of work to do on my self-esteem, insecurities and overall mental health, so I am taking a break from the apps for a few months. At least I know what needs working on.
/r/seduction12/09/24 06:39 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:00 AM
1

Wow, I'm a real prick. But I've never been banned somehow.
/r/seduction12/09/24 08:05 AM
22

I had one once by having a very high sex drive gf who was also bisexual. Pretty easy that way.
/r/seduction11/09/24 03:17 PM
3

I mean, was that it? Did anything come of it? I doubt the police would take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:54 PM
1

Thanks, I'll give him a look.
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:30 AM
12

Just don't chase them.
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:11 AM
1

Cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:24 AM
1

Women do now have access to online dating and social media, making it very hard for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:24 AM
61

I do have to laugh at the thought of when a guy is in prison and he's asked what he's in for and he says "I spoke to a woman on the street/store."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:50 PM
5

Exactly, it's so obvious that they are (which is absolutely their right), but when they try to deny it it gets ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:26 PM
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Confidence comes from prior success.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:00 PM
3

You don't want your partner to be extremely attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:34 PM
1

Not can be, are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:34 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:07 PM
2

That's why it's best to avoid monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:07 PM
1

No, as in sucks for the guy who she settled for and secretly resents as he can't live up to the one that got away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:07 PM
2

Sucks for that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:59 PM
5

Usually as a result of a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:56 PM
1

Thanks, good advice. I'll try to stop watching blackpill content which I find pretty depressing.
/r/seduction10/09/24 07:51 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/seduction10/09/24 07:50 PM
3

But 95% will never experience a woman who is genuinely attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:48 PM
176

I agree. Stop wasting time on low interest women.
/r/seduction10/09/24 06:43 PM
2

That is a fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:42 PM
1

I'm not calling for violence, I'm saying it could lead to it as more men are left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:42 PM
11

Vast majority is when the wife stops putting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:29 PM
1

More and more sexless men, therefore leading to more crimes and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:10 PM
1

Then why are so many guys struggling in online dating and in person? You don't think that women having access to hundreds/thousands of men effects real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:07 PM
1

It is, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:53 PM
1

Do women not have access to online dating and social media now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:50 PM
1

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:44 PM
1

Then why have I been told that there was no connection following dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:36 PM
1

What else is it based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:23 PM
1

Outlier example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:20 PM
2

They are pushed to it due to bad genetics. You don't believe that women find most men ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:19 PM
1

Most men, as they don't do well either online or in person. Why aren't women just as picky in person? If you go to clubs you'll also see extreme pickiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:19 PM
2

So what was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:05 PM
1

But I've literally told following dates that I had no connection and I went to depression following it. You're an outlier as most men need to swipe right on everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:05 PM
1

Genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:45 PM
1

Some men have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:28 PM
0

So what type of man do they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:26 PM
2

Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:26 PM
1

Women only want to meet men online.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:15 PM
0

I do well on apps. Why would I try in person? Online dating is real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:15 PM
1

Because women are extremely picky and only want the top 5% of men on Tinder. How is swiping left on someone not seeing them as unattractive? Yes, it literally meant that they had no hope and no one found them attractive. That's how they interpreted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:14 PM
1

Dating apps exist. I don't need to be a dance monkey by approaching women and giving them validation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:57 PM
3

And how did it come to that? Dead bedrooms are caused by the woman in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:06 PM
1

Maybe, but I don't even try anymore unless it's online.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:26 PM
1

So what do you think causes attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:25 PM
3

As more and more men are struggling in the current dating market, expect more of this to occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:18 PM
3

Then why is he resorting to porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:15 PM
2

What a shame. These men probably weren't getting much anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:14 PM
3

So find another man. Men resort to it because they're unable to get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:13 PM
1

Nope, I never had to rely on it as it's bullshit. It's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:13 PM
1

Wait, so you actually believe pickup artistry works?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:09 PM
3

Right, he sounds very unattractive. Why do women care so much about men watching porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:07 PM
1

Yeah, because pickup courses are bullshit. If she rejects you then she isn't attracted to you. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:06 PM
2

All women find me repulsive until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:59 PM
1

Suggest a meet straight away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:58 PM
2

If she isn't attracted to you, then she is repulsed. Look at how women treat the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:52 PM
1

I said that I always assume that they find me ugly until proven otherwise. I rely on online dating as women don't want to meet men irl. As said, online dating helps filter out women who are attracted to you. Although, as you seem to believe that personality matters, I doubt you have had much success.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:51 PM
1

Personality doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:48 PM
1

Yet why do I still get lots of success?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:46 PM
2

Online dating stats show it to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:45 PM
1

Maybe. But the point is, it still doesn't hinder me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:35 PM
2

Women already find most men repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:19 PM
1

I bet that you think that your vote is important and will make a difference...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:18 PM
1

Yes, I often believe those things, even with success. However, I can still get success. This shows that confidence means very little to women. Thank you for stalking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:17 PM
2

Majority do these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:51 AM
3

Women swipe left on 95% of men: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:30 AM
3

It's the same thing. If she doesn't want you, you're repulsive to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:26 AM
1

Then why swipe left? Women are just extremely picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:24 AM
4

This is in the West, too. This is data collected across Tinder. It lays it out here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 If they didn't find them repulsive, why did they swipe left?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:00 AM
7

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/the-math-behind-dating-apps-women-like-only-4-out-of-100-profiles-men-more-likely-to-swipe-right/amp_articleshow/75736043.cms
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:02 AM
14

Nah, you're not at all. I like this honesty. I don't like it when people try and gaslight or sugar-coat it, so this is refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:27 AM
40

The truth right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:20 AM
11

They swipe left on 95% of men and view most men as below average on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:20 AM
1

Well, if I support it, then so do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:13 AM
1

I don't. Now explain why you're so unattractive you need to resort to watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:02 AM
1

Just explain why you watch porn. What does it bring?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:00 AM
1

These are unfortunately part of modern life. So why do you watch porn simply because you can't get anything irl and are repulsive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:56 AM
6

If they saw them, they'd find them repulsive. I know many men who have given up entirely due to being rejected following dates
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:55 AM
1

Where did I do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:52 AM
1

Why would I? Are you heterosexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:50 AM
10

According to online dating stats, yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:49 AM
1

Do you watch porn? You sound really upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:49 AM
1

No reason to watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:47 AM
5

Where am I delusional? Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:15 AM
3

Great reply as you have no reason to suggest approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:10 AM
5

No, they're not open to being approached. Look at the amount on here who complain about creeps approaching them. I haven't approached a woman since 2012 and not had any issues. I've got dating apps. Plus, approaching the woman gives her validation and will make her feel above you. Telling the vast majority men to approach when they have guaranteed rejection is almost sociopathic as it sounds a bit like you're simply trying to ruin their confidence and self-esteem. What happens after they've appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:05 AM
-1

So, as women don't want to be approached, why would you advise it? It's not what I think. It's a fact. Most men won't be successful in approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:58 AM
8

What even would be the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:56 AM
5

No, it wouldn't. Women don't want to be approached. Plus, it's a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:52 AM
9

Well, women do view most men as repulsive. What effort should men put in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:49 AM
54

Approaching women is pointless for 95% of men. Women don't want to be approached for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:42 AM
8

95% of men struggle in today's dating market. Women have access to dating apps and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:36 AM
1

I probably get way more play than you, hence why you need to resort to watching another man fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:18 AM
1

Yet they swipe left on 95% of men. I've heard of men going on dates with women who told them that there was no connection afterwards. That shows how many men have zero hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:17 AM
4

That's why I support legalisation. You'd get fewer incels. Many men have no other ways of getting sex as they are unattractive to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:16 AM
2

They're in dead bedrooms because they never were sexually attractive in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:14 AM
1

I'm not a feminist (toxic masculinity is a bullshit term), nor do I vote as politicians are lying scumbags. I hate modern feminism. I was merely pointing out a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:14 AM
1

I don't watch porn. Those HL women don't have it for their husbands...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:11 AM
1

They got into it in the first place because they couldn't get any.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:10 AM
3

Most men find getting sex extremely hard to get. Most dead bedrooms are initiated by women for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:08 AM
5

Why does that even bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:06 AM
2

Those are extremely rare. Why even is it an issue anyway? If he's addicted, then it's his fault 100% for being a genetic loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:04 AM
2

They got into it because they're sexually undesirable. The fact that they have an addiction shows that they are losers. Even in these supposed scenarios, why do you consider it an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:03 AM
8

Sure, whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:21 PM
1

No, I don't understand your position. Are you just high inhibition and anxious? I'm not having a pop, I'm just curious so I can understand you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:15 PM
2

But at least you're getting your rocks off. Fair enough if you go to a dirty, low end brass who is a crackhead, but a proper high-end one who is a 9 and clean? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:14 PM
9

What is a "HL" woman? High libido? I highly doubt that they do. If they were, why would they watch it? Men usually resort to it because they are stuck in dead bedrooms and the wife/gf doesn't find him attractive..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:13 PM
2

You're still part of the demand for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:09 PM
9

You watching it is still creating a demand for it, whether or not you are literally there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:05 PM
12

Unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:05 PM
1

If you need to resort to a dinner date, then yes, you are low value/unattractive to the woman. If you were, you wouldn't need to buy her affection. Women will sleep with men they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:00 PM
-1

A lot of the people in porn are exploited too. They are living humans. As for paying to play, as long as the women are properly and frequently checked for diseases and haven't been trafficked/forced into doing it, why is it an issue? Many men have no other means of getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:59 PM
-4

If you watch porn, then you are, by definition, low value. Same as if you go on dinner dates as a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:56 PM
1

I bet you wear a bra.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:52 PM
-1

In what way is it dangerous? Is it illegal where you are? You say that it's unethical and unfulfilling, but isn't porn also those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:51 PM
–

You sound mad because you watch porn and low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:47 PM
0

Tbh if I weren't getting any I'd just hire a brass. I don't have any interest in watching another man have sex. I want to be the one doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:46 PM
0

The difference is, I don't need to get off by living vicariously through another man. I can get it in person. If you're a stud, why do you need to watch porn? If it takes time and energy, then download Tinder and have a girl come over. It's not that hard. Or just get a brass. You seem quite irate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:45 PM
-3

So why do you feel the need to watch another man to get off? Can't you use your imagination? Also, if you were attractive, you wouldn't need to chase. That says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:41 PM
-4

Nah, you're just low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:22 PM
96

Men usually resort to porn because they can't get any irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:17 PM
1

But women already do get far more matches and likes than men. Why would men like online dating more given that most get no success? I've known plenty of men who have gone on dates from online, only to be told after that there was "no spark or connection." That literally means that they have no hope with any woman. One literally gave up on life entirely after hearing that. So, do you believe that men don't actually struggle on online dating? Is it not harder for them? Why do so many complain abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:08 PM
3

Yet dating app statistics show how picky women are. It makes zero sense for men to be more picky when it comes to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:59 PM
3

As women have considerable more options than men due to dating apps and social media, they can afford to be even more picky. They already are extremely picky on looks. Most men have very low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:31 PM
1

Yet, women swipe left on 95% of men and still have a higher match rate. They're still chasing the Chads. I've known men who have gone on dates from apps to be then told that there was no spark/connection, thus showing that they have no hope. Even from ugly women. The fact that a man goes on a date instead of her coming straight to his shows that he's not very desirable in all likelihood. Women just always get hundreds of likes, thus raising their ego. You can see many unattractive women on Hinge…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:29 PM
4

Well, women do primarily go for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:14 PM
1

That's because women are far more picky and get way more matches/likes. Online dating is just far more difficult for men. Most don't get anything at all. Always try to arrange a meet within the first few messages as otherwise you're wasting your time. Yes, we can extrapolate a lot from it. We know for a fact that women are extremely picky and swipe left on 95% of men. Why is it so controversial to say that they find most unattractive? We also know that messaging doesn't mean anything. I don't ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:04 PM
1

Women are extremely picky, particularly online. Why do people try to deny this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:50 PM
0

Messages don't mean anything. Women message men they're not attracted to all the time. It's called time wasters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:48 PM
1

How would you know? Stating the fact that women aren't attracted to average men isn't complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:51 PM
2

In person too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:33 PM
1

What reality is that? What advice would you give to average men who never even approach women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:20 PM
1

Don't you want to accept reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:03 PM
1

Keep living in a dreamworld where women want average men, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:46 AM
2

Women will always be extremely picky and have an overabundance. That goes for in person and on apps unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:31 AM
1

Those women will only casually sleep with attractive men. They will end up regretting it all later. These men aren't as social because they're often genetic losers, hence why they are rejected and ostracised. Yes, many men cannot get a partner. Many women aren't even attracted to their boyfriend or husband, she just uses him whilst she bangs a more desirable man on the side. It's getting harder and harder for average men as women find most men repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:30 AM
1

So how is it nowadays? Why are there so many loser men who have no hope? Again, I asked you to offer advice to average men. What do they need to do? Remember; women don't care about confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:03 AM
1

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success/ So what is your advice to the average man? "Just be confident, bro!!! Looks don't matter at all!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:55 AM
2

Only 40% of men in history have reproduced. Now only a small amount of men are getting action.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:47 AM
2

Since when? I've known average guys who went on dates with women. The women literally told them that there was no connection following the date. This shows that they have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:37 AM
2

Oh okay, bro. Women are definitely attracted to average...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:32 AM
2

Yes, women do have the power. They are the choosers and have an overabundance in terms of options. But as women don't want average men, they realise that their girlfriend or wife isn't attracted to them therefore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:23 AM
2

Why would women have that? They have the power in dating. That's why I haven't approached a woman in 12 years as it's a guaranteed rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:18 AM
3

But it's true for 90% of men. Women have many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:04 AM
4

As in, whenever I'm on apps or dating a woman, I always assume that they'll meet someone better. Isn't that true for most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:42 AM
2

Brutal. I've never bothered attending one, but there was one where I live where people specifically want to get away from dating apps. I doubt it would be good though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:30 AM
0

But isn't a better option just a swipe away?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:29 AM
1

Well, I don't even read their bios anymore as it all says the same nonsense.
/r/seduction08/09/24 09:23 AM
2

Do it around your male friends, not your girlfriend or wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:04 PM
1

My profile was booming, but it slowed down a bit. I deleted it last week and think I'll rejoin again in a few months. I guess I just like a fresh start and it can be a bit overwhelming and boring after a while.
/r/seduction07/09/24 07:17 PM
4

I'm talking about the woman. She isn't special.
/r/seduction07/09/24 11:03 AM
28

Remember that they're all replaceable and not special.
/r/seduction07/09/24 07:36 AM
1

As in create a new account.
/r/seduction07/09/24 06:58 AM
1

Yeah, I took a long break of six months last time. It's good to take a break for sure. It's probably best to try your luck in multiple avenues rather than simply relying on one, like I was doing with the apps.
/r/seduction07/09/24 06:57 AM
2

English? What did they do with that? I think most men are realising that it isn't really worth going to uni unless you become a doctor or engineer (the latter is still very male dominated). I certainly regret going for the degree I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:50 PM
2

Well yeah, obviously. People's metabolisms, hormone levels and energy levels change as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:31 PM
2

https://www.sportengland.org/research-and-data/research/gender
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:29 PM
4

But yet most women are overweight. Are those women you talk of high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:27 PM
1

Wow, I always thought that men needed few things to make them happy and are easy to understand (much more direct than women), hence why they weren't seen as complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:27 PM
3

In the US and UK, they certainly are. Men also exercise more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:26 PM
4

Probably a good thing that fewer men are going to higher education as it's mostly a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:25 PM
4

But what do these modern women offer at the same time as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:23 PM
3

Most women are overweight now too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:23 PM
1

Did you have to pay as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:15 PM
1

What if I got really good results and reinstall six months later?
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:58 PM
1

Yeah, six months is a good time frame.
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:54 PM
1

That's a new strategy to me. How often do you do that?
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:48 PM
1

Sure.
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:47 PM
1

I've realised that women will often approach you if you're attractive enough, particularly at bars.
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:25 PM
8

I've had cosmetic work done and got in great shape. I'm still too much of a pussy to approach in person.
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:24 PM
1

Being in a relationship doesn't mean she's attracted to him. She's probably using him. Most young men are single. Online dating is now the most common way for people to meet now. Women don't want to meet men irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:24 PM
1

Now I just wait for them to approach.
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:17 PM
1

How long did you wait to reset? I got Gold and got nearly 2K matches/likes after resetting after six months.
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:16 PM
1

Yeah, it used to work great when you could delete it and reset straight away, then Tinder wisened up and started banning for that. Probably best now to wait a few months and get new and better pictures for next time. Should be fine.
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:14 PM
4

True, but I tend to wait a few months before resetting (last time it was six months).
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:10 PM
5

Where else are you shooting your shot?
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:08 PM
1

They swipe left on 95% of men...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:07 PM
1

How are men complicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:07 PM
1

Guaranteed rejection.
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:06 PM
1

They are, unless they're an extreme outlier. They swipe left on 95% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:06 PM
2

Don't do it.
/r/seduction06/09/24 06:08 PM
1

Suggest meeting up early on in the exchange. This will help to weed out the time wasters. After that, get their number.
/r/seduction06/09/24 06:08 PM
1

I had very similar recently. Wait and see how she responds and don't chase her.
/r/seduction06/09/24 06:02 PM
1

It's all good. I guess I'm trying to try other avenues as I've become too reliant on apps (haven't approached a woman since 2012).
/r/seduction06/09/24 05:58 PM
5

I wasn't asking what I should do, I already have done it. I was asking what others tended to do.
/r/seduction06/09/24 05:51 PM
3

You still haven't explained why men should attend these events if they'd be rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:47 PM
1

Well, you're just an extreme outlier then as even hideous women get inundated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:30 PM
1

Most young men are. They have no hope of ever finding someone to be attracted to them. I'd say that 95% of men have no hope in finding someone who loves them. Why should men attend these events just to be rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:13 PM
1

Why do you call men males? No, they have no hope of being in a romantic relationship with any of those women unless they are top 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:02 PM
1

I once tried to explain this to someone. Unfortunately, he then punched me upon the tooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:58 PM
1

Men are complicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:53 PM
2

With other men? Sure. At finding someone at an event and not getting rejected? Impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:51 PM
1

Too high standards most likely. I've known horrendous looking women getting lots of likes/matches. Or you're just an extreme outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:48 PM
1

Because women don't want average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:47 PM
2

Exactly. I couldn't think of anything more humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:04 PM
1

Because they have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:02 PM
1

Only 5% can have genuine desire from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:53 PM
1

You must be an extreme outlier and there must be something up with your settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:43 PM
2

Why would most men, who are 100% guaranteed to be rejected, attend? Are they masochists?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:31 PM
1

Ouch. That sounds painful. I'm sorry to hear that you had that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:24 PM
3

In modern dating, that is pretty much what is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:32 AM
1

Women have a very high bar for physical attractiveness in men and view most men as below average. Attraction for women is mostly based on looks. Despite what roaches and women claim. Explain guys like Jeremy Meeks and Ted Bundy. I don't know where on earth you're getting the idea that women have a very low bar for male attractiveness, but I suppose you have a product to sell so you need to gaslight men into believing that.
/r/seduction04/09/24 08:59 PM
1

The "connection" is primarily looks. If they were attracted to you, they'd give it more time. If you don't pass her looks threshold, no amount of "connection" or "confidence" will make her attracted to you, no matter what dating roaches claim.
/r/seduction04/09/24 08:51 PM
1

Women are primarily driven by looks. That's usually the reason that they will reject a man. I really don't care about a "connection" on a first date.
/r/seduction04/09/24 08:40 PM
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Only to the top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:50 PM
1

And you somehow get that after an hour of meeting? Do you not feel that that can take time to develop? Idgaf about any of that. They're not my soul mate. As long as I find them physically attractive and get on with them, then I don't really care about the rest.
/r/seduction04/09/24 12:21 PM
1

Yes, I dated her for two months. I overlooked some red flags, which was really silly of me, as she was just my type, and I got on so well with her, and she was really into me. I learned a lot of lessons, thankfully.
/r/seduction04/09/24 12:19 PM
1

That's a good way of doing it.
/r/seduction04/09/24 12:17 PM
1

Confidence is a byproduct of success. If a woman finds you physically unattractive, then no amount of your silly confidence is going to make her attracted to you. As most men have very little success, they won't have much confidence. No, women don't want average looking men. They're repulsed by them. If you're average, why would you shoot your shot? I know plenty of average guys who never even try in person (only online) as they know that they have no hope. No, looks are far more important than …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:17 PM
1

What do you think matters more out of looks and confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:56 AM
1

Your girlfriend doesn't love you. So what if you're in a relationship? Doesn't mean you can't be on Tinder. I've been in relationships before but still used it. Also, why do I know people who became far better looking and their results shot up as a result? Confidence doesn't mean shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:41 AM
1

The vast majority of men do not have options. No women are interested in them. Women don't want average. I bet you think that confidence is important to women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:21 AM
1

The vast majority of men aren't picky at all and have to take what they can get. Tinder and online dating are real life now. Like it or not, women have access to countless men now. Why would they want average? You still haven't explained what you think that women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:39 AM
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Men aren't picky in general. Women are just extremely picky and these swipe stats show it. Why are you having a hard time admitting it? I've shown you the data. Here is the study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 What are women attracted to then in your opinion? Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:02 AM
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https://medium.com/hello-love/women-say-80-of-men-are-below-average-bab0b8af2606 Also, look at Tinder stats where women swipe left on 95% of men: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25201689 No, women do not think that most men look fine lmao. They have unbelievable standards. Look at the stats. If one woman finds you ugly, then most likely all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:50 AM
2

No, they don't look fine. Particularly according to women, who view over 80% of men as below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:35 AM
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Women don't care about how confident you are. They care about looks. Confidence doesn't mean shit. Average men don't get anything. Women don't want average. They consider average ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:19 AM
1

You don't need a technique lol.
/r/seduction04/09/24 05:17 AM
2

It's funny how you have to resort to personal attacks. These average men with girls? How do you know he's fucking her? Most likely she's using him and cheating on him if they are in a relationship. Women want perfection. I haven't approached a woman in over a decade because I'm not attractive enough (average), and therefore, no woman wants me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:45 PM
1

All I'm saying is that women don't want average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:43 PM
1

Most men don't get anything unless they pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:29 PM
4

Women don't want average men approaching them. They only want 5-10% of men. If you're average, you have no hope. Social skills can make you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:27 PM
2

The thing is is that with my recent oneitis, I was dating/sleeping with other women, but she was my favourite one. I got very anxious over her attraction levels, which was really bad. She broke things off with me the other week (no surprise there), and I handled it badly by showing my insecurities and then telling her about some other girl to restore my pride. I have since tried to apologise but to no avail. That was bad. I've learned valuable lessons, thankfully, and I am taking a break from th…
/r/seduction03/09/24 10:08 PM
1

Interesting. I have been told by women in the past that there was no "connection," and I just thought that it just meant that they thought I was ugly and that I should give up.
/r/seduction03/09/24 09:22 PM
1

Becoming better looking, being more direct, and picking up on signals.
/r/seduction03/09/24 09:06 PM
1

Why are you so concerned about a girl thousands of miles away?
/r/seduction03/09/24 09:04 PM
2

Try to get them to meet up with you. See their response. Most of your conversations should be in person to build rapport. If they give wishy washy answers to your meet up suggestion, then move on. Anything other than a yes is a no.
/r/seduction03/09/24 09:03 PM
1

What do you even mean by "connection"? Seems quite vague.
/r/seduction03/09/24 09:01 PM
8

And just too unattractive.
/r/seduction03/09/24 09:00 PM
0

Friends first is a terrible strategy.
/r/seduction03/09/24 08:57 PM
1

No, he's not. If I looked like him at that age I'd probably top myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:40 AM
2

Well most men are very non picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:50 AM
1

Well, women also have far lower sex drives than men. Why would men want the women to be fucking other men? It's not I'm women's nature to act like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:26 AM
1

It's only silly when women get delusional standards and rate themselves highly. However, as we've established that women view most men as below average, then maybe it's just mother nature's way of weeding out bad genetics (unattractive men). I'm different though. I've had to work for my attractiveness so I can now afford to be picky. I've had cosmetic work done and have a very good physique, so my looks and results have gone up. I no longer need to take what I can get. I just accept that women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:22 PM
1

Well, men do have very low standards. I know that women are extremely picky. It's just how they are. I don't expect them to date unattractive men. I just accept them for what they are. So to answer your question, I'd prefer the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:23 PM
2

Well yes, we all agree that women are far more picky than men. This is a result of biology. That's why women find most men unattractive, whilst men find most women somewhat attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:55 PM
1

So where should men try and date? Women don't want to meet men irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:57 AM
2

Dating sucks for 90% of men, whether on Tinder, other apps or in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:52 AM
2

Well, yes. Women do only want the top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:50 AM
2

Men are hardly selective at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:47 AM
1

It's just that women find most men undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:45 AM
3

Nah, they don't...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:44 AM
2

Why would men go gay if they're straight? Most men have incredibly low standards and have to take what they can get. Men view most women as attractive, whereas women view most men as ugly. Women's standards are way too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:41 AM
0

As long as a woman isn't something like a SW or on OnlyFans, men don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:16 AM
5

Women don't like being approached... They literally say that they don't want to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:19 AM
1

If I look good and they've been drinking.
/r/seduction19/08/24 06:01 PM
2

Damn, I hear women talk about it and I didn't know wtf they meant. Thanks.
/r/seduction19/08/24 05:58 PM
1

I've heard this used before, but what exactly is a "connection"?
/r/seduction19/08/24 05:06 PM
1

Sort of. You don't really need them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:08 PM
1

I put very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:13 PM
1

Why are other guys saying this? Did you bang this girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:57 PM
1

Beng, good-looking and muscular helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:55 PM
3

Because this is 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:21 PM
2

Because it shows that you're desperate and need to jump through hoops to hope that she likes you. This boosts her ego. Dinner dates are for simps because you're taking her out whilst she's banged guys who haven't spent a penny on her. No dinner before sex. You want to ensure that she's sexually attracted to you. Dates in general are pathetic in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:01 PM
3

On what in particular? That dinner dates are for simps?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:39 PM
2

Well, yes, they are desperate dance monkeys. Dinner dates are for simps, particularly if you haven't slept with her. You can put in effort in more effective ways. Not approaching and feeding her ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:37 PM
1

Sounds a bit like me. I was dating this girl for two months (split up last week), and she was very into me at first. Unfortunately, my insecurities and neediness eventually crept in quite quickly, and it all started to go south quite quickly. I kept thinking that she wasn't really into me and would just find someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:07 AM
2

Damn, I've relied solely on online since 2014. My social circles are pretty much all male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:52 AM
1

You said, "Good luck getting women or dates without feeling the need to approach one." If you want to be so desperate that you feel the need to approach women, then go ahead. Many men have a lot of success without being a dance monkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:13 AM
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Probably get more play than you do. You think that the only way to get play is to approach? Shows how clueless you are. I haven't approached a woman since 2012 and I do absolutely fine. I bet you go on dinner dates too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:48 AM
4

Well, if you have to be a dance monkey, yes it does. Why would you approach one? You don't need to approach and make her feel good about herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:46 AM
9

Nice shaming language because I speak the truth. Why should I be a dance monkey?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:45 AM
7

Why would I approach her in the first place? It just gives her validation and she feels above you. I haven't approached a woman since 2012. Either they come up to me or it won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:53 AM
11

Because they're the choosers and go after the men that they truly want. Women always have endless simps after them, so why would you degrade yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:34 AM
0

I'd rather not waste my money. One of the breakups did sting last week admittedly, I should have handled it better. Lesson learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:29 AM
13

For men, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:29 AM
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I'm not frustrated but I've had two breakups in the last week. But I've got over 1,000 Tinder likes and matches. I don't need tips, I'm just pointing out a reality. Dates don't mean anything. Where do you even tak3 them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:07 AM
2

Even chubby women have insane amounts of options on there that inflate their egos. Men just have very low standards. I've even seen them rejecting good-looking/above average guys. Are you offering me this "advice," or are you just saying it in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:51 AM
2

As chubby mid-ugly guy, how are you able to get anything on apps which is all about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:43 AM
13

No, approaching is humiliating as it gives the woman validation and she feels above you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:40 AM
1

Some of my friends used to do it in the past, but it never really appealed to me. You're opening yourself up to being exploited in many cases.
/r/seduction08/08/24 10:52 AM
1

Good idea. Thanks.
/r/seduction07/08/24 10:33 PM
2

Perhaps. Luckily I've only been on cheap dates with her and no dinners so far.
/r/seduction07/08/24 01:15 PM
0

I either open them or they open me. After a brief back and forth, I message them with a "We should meet up/hang out" and go from there. Helps to eliminate time wasters.
/r/seduction07/08/24 11:58 AM
3

Also, no dinner before sex. This will show that you're not a provider/simp and it will also show that she's actually sexually attracted to you.
/r/seduction07/08/24 11:55 AM
2

Good guide. I employed similar tactics.
/r/seduction07/08/24 11:50 AM
2

I live here and only do online or bars/clubs. The dating scene can be pretty brutal. People here are pretty reserved in general and are a bit colder in general.
/r/seduction06/08/24 02:25 PM
1

Exception doesn't make the rule.
/r/seduction06/08/24 01:20 PM
3

They're not attracted to them, just see it as security. Beta-buxx.
/r/seduction06/08/24 01:19 PM
5

Nah, dinner is never worth it. Dates should be inexpensive.
/r/seduction04/08/24 07:44 AM
1

Because men tend to go for useful degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:36 PM
1

But men are overwhelmingly more likely to go into STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:17 PM
1

And that's the degrees that men usually do. Other than those degrees they are useless. Men and women are different. Silly feminists aren't going to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:05 PM
1

Exactly. Men don't need to go to college anymore. Why are these gender roles an issue for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:00 PM
1

But they're often teaching useless things which aren't applicable to the real world. You don't need to pay an extortionate amount to learn. Men have the burden of performance. They know that a lot of their worth to society is tied to how much money they make. This includes both socially and romantically. As said, I'm glad that more men are realising how useless it all is for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:50 PM
1

Going back to the original post. You blamed the fact that women get into massive debt studying useless degrees was somehow down to "gender roles" which can be changed. Yes, college is a scam these days for the most part. You don't need to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:22 PM
1

And how many kids do you have? It's great that less men are going to college as it's a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:18 PM
1

Nor are you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:12 PM
1

And that's not going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:25 PM
1

You'll never get rid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:15 PM
1

Well, women usually take up more useless degrees than men. Unless you're in STEM or Medicine then it's useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:05 PM
1

Good for you. Why should more men waste their money on useless degrees?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:50 PM
1

Why would we want more men going to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:46 PM
1

Or you could just not go on a stupid dinner date?
/r/seduction30/07/24 04:34 PM
1

And neither are you. I'm saying that dinner shouldn't happen until sex. You could be used as a foodie call.
/r/seduction30/07/24 04:19 PM
1

You shouldn't be going on dates in the first place, in all honesty. If she were sexually attracted to you, you wouldn't need to do this. If you have to go on a date, then do it as quickly as possible. If a girl wanted dinner from me, then I'd know she's not attracted to me. Thanks for the heads up on Latam. I'll know to avoid dinner there lol.
/r/seduction30/07/24 04:16 PM
1

I just hope that fewer and fewer men go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:09 PM
1

Well, he shouldn't be doing them in the first place. He's striking out because he's a simp going on silly dinner dates. Paying for sex isn't game.
/r/seduction30/07/24 03:40 PM
3

Girls definitely do care about race lol.
/r/seduction30/07/24 03:16 PM
1

I don't approach lol. It gives her validation. Women primarily go for looks, everything else is just the cherry on top.
/r/seduction30/07/24 03:14 PM
0

So essentially be a jester and dance monkey for her? She still needs to find you physically/sexually attractive for it to even work.
/r/seduction30/07/24 01:09 PM
1

That's stupid these days as women have endless options and can replace you at the drop of a hat.There's nothing wrong with hitting them up the day after. She might even message you first.
/r/seduction30/07/24 01:08 PM
1

Yeah, again, your advice is really bad. If she's attracted to you, then you don't need to take her on some stupid dinner date and lead with your wallet. You don't even need to go on a date at all. If she finds you sexually attractive, then there's no need to waste time and money on taking her out. Oh, I see. You're a game advocate. I should have known. You can't talk someone into finding you attractive.
/r/seduction30/07/24 11:24 AM
1

In fact, you don't even need to go on dates. You can just fuck them and get rid of that time wasting shit of some silly date.
/r/seduction30/07/24 11:20 AM
2

Agree with them.
/r/seduction30/07/24 11:14 AM
3

I usually don't kiss, unless it's clear she wants it and I can bring her home there and then.
/r/seduction30/07/24 11:14 AM
1

Oh, okay, bro. I'll spend hundreds on the next date going to a fancy dinner with a girl I've never met before. Happy? Such good advice. If a girl suggests dinner, then I discard her as she's trash and not interested. If you want to be used as a foodie call, then that's your issue. Why are you even trying to offer advice? You don't need money to pull.
/r/seduction30/07/24 11:08 AM
2

Probably more experienced than you, you need to rely on your wallet clearly. This same bitch you're taking out to dinner fucked some guy who didn't need to spend a penny on her. She could well be going off to fuck him once she's finished dinner with you. It happens a lot. You make money for yourself, not for some random bitch who you've never met. They need to earn you taking them out. Nice of you to stalk as well. You're in no position to offer people advice. Fuck off with your nonsense about n…
/r/seduction30/07/24 11:03 AM
2

Oh, okay, bro. Great advice. Spending money on a first date is a really good idea. A girl who asks you on a dinner date is low interest and trash. If she was sexually attracted to you, she wouldn't expect you to take her on some shitty date. Girls who are genuinely attracted to you don't need you to take them on some extravagant date. Your advice is really, really bad and I hope that nobody takes you seriously. Imagine seriously suggesting you should make more money to buy some bitch you just me…
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:53 AM
1

But why one to two days? If they don't want to fuck that night (particularly in clubs) then it's pretty much a dead horse.
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:26 AM
1

So yeah, if they don't want to meet, then ignore them as they're time wasters. Why do you text them one to two days later? Why don't you try to fuck them that night?
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:17 AM
1

If they're on a dating app, why the fuck are they talking to you if they don't want to meet?
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:14 AM
1

Not really. It just shows you who is actually interested and who isn't and you can act accordingly.
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:09 AM
3

I always suggest a meet up within the first few messages as it eliminates any time wasters. If they just ghost, then just move on. It happens.
/r/seduction30/07/24 09:58 AM
2

It depends on what was said. Sometimes, I leave it on read/like react the message when there's nothing more to really add to the conversation. I even do that with girls I find attractive. What really matters is whether or not she's willing to meet/fuck. One girl I'm seeing can come across as quite cold in texts (so can I), but she is always easy to arrange meets with. Don't overthink this too much.
/r/seduction30/07/24 09:36 AM
1

I'm not broke. I just have better things to do than spend money on some shit dinner date. Dates shouldn't cost a lot unless it's something like a birthday or anniversary (even then, it shouldn't be a lot). If you want to waste time and money taking a skank on a dinner date, then so be it.
/r/seduction30/07/24 09:30 AM
1

Dinner dates are never fine.
/r/seduction30/07/24 07:21 AM
1

Lmao why do you go on dinner dates as a first date? No dinner before sex is a golden rule. Never simp. I hope you learned a valuable lesson.
/r/seduction30/07/24 07:20 AM
4

Why would you not say anything for a few days? What's the point in that?
/r/seduction30/07/24 07:10 AM
5

I overthink way too much. At the end of the day, a girl either finds you attractive or she doesn't. There is no need to overcomplicate seduction.
/r/seduction30/07/24 07:08 AM
1

Becoming better looking and using the apps
/r/seduction30/07/24 07:06 AM
1

If they're qualified, then so be it. But it is very patronising to suggest that men are weak and pathetic enough to need quotas to be employed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:29 PM
2

If he's properly qualified, then so be it. But men do not need quotas. Quotas are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:41 PM
1

Really bad advice. I hope no one takes what you say seriously as I have a feeling you're a troll.
/r/seduction29/07/24 11:48 AM
1

If she wants dinner as a first date, then she is for the streets lol.
/r/seduction29/07/24 11:26 AM
3

Oh yeah, because preferential hiring will be really good. That's exactly what we need.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:32 AM
3

Nah, it would be incredibly patronising to be employed because you're a man. It would seem as if you're too stupid and pathetic to get it on merit. It's not a bad thing that fewer men are going to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:04 AM
6

Preferential hiring isn't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:21 AM
1

Is this for all age groups or amongst younger ones?
/r/seduction26/07/24 06:09 PM
1

Nah, men have become far more desperate as it's become far more difficult for them due to dating apps/social media.
/r/seduction26/07/24 10:21 AM
1

Tinder was brilliant when it first came out and was far easier for the average guy to get good success. Being in good shape was far less common, and you stood out more. Now, far more guys are in shape and it's become far more of the standard. Women's expectations and "pickiness" has become far more prevalent, aka "sexual inflation." Less people seem to want to go out to nightclubs now. Bars are still pretty good. These are just off the top of my head.
/r/seduction26/07/24 10:17 AM
1

Yeah, I have a tendency to do that.
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:05 PM
1

Yeah, I realise that this type of behaviour isn't good. I'll just have to see how it all pans out and stop overthinking. Come what may.
/r/seduction19/07/24 08:36 PM
1

I might do, but I'll give it a few days. She's going away today anyway.
/r/seduction19/07/24 08:26 PM
1

Yeah, that's a good strategy. I'll wait until she next hits me up and suggests meeting up anyway. Last night was her idea as well. She said she found it strange that I took so long to respond to her asking if I got back okay last night.
/r/seduction19/07/24 08:20 PM
1

That's true. I'll wait for her to reach out (she often initiates) and see if she suggests meeting up. I will leave it for a few days. She seemed quite upset earlier when I never responded to her asking if I got home safe last night. I just said I was asleep by then. She said it was strange not to respond for ages.
/r/seduction19/07/24 08:19 PM
2

Yeah, thanks. I've learned a lot from this. We hooked up last night (after she invited me to hers). I'll just stop messaging her until she brings up meeting again.
/r/seduction19/07/24 03:39 PM
2

Yep, I thought that. I've deleted her number/chat anyway. She can come to me.
/r/seduction19/07/24 03:29 PM
2

Thanks, man. I'll give it a try. Yeah, I'm sure it's nothing and just my mind running rampant. I hope it doesn't impact my behaviour too much.
/r/seduction19/07/24 02:37 PM
3

I have a terrible predisposition to overthinking everything. She got worried this morning when I didn't answer her text whether I got home safe and found it quite strange.
/r/seduction19/07/24 01:27 PM
1

Well, they adjust their standards accordingly, hence why they aren't picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:39 PM
17

Given how forward and touchy women can be when drunk in clubs and bars, this doesn't surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:25 PM
1

Yes, they do. Most men have to take what they can get as they have no other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:10 PM
3

Well, that is really weird. Fapping over money? That's a new one. These guys are part of the reason why some women delusionally believe that working in finance or other jobs makes them more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:07 PM
2

I find that really weird that men would find money hot in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:00 PM
-1

They're not just focusing on them, though... Men have very low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:56 PM
1

Thanks, I'll give it a look.
/r/seduction12/07/24 07:45 AM
2

Probably.
/r/seduction12/07/24 07:45 AM
1

Rejections and no women attracted to them? No likes or matches on dating apps? This isn't struggling?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:25 PM
2

Most men struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:17 PM
2

Seeming as most men have no options, how can they be choosy? Women are extremely picky due to the value they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:08 PM
3

They have incredibly low standards. That's still standards. Beggars can't be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:16 PM
2

But what unrealistic standards do these men have?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:11 PM
1

How exactly are their standards unrealistic? Most men have incredibly low standards and have to take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:49 AM
1

I like that. That's good advice. Thank you.
/r/seduction10/07/24 11:17 AM
1

That's a good point. Thanks.
/r/seduction10/07/24 10:59 AM
1

Either.
/r/seduction02/07/24 02:58 PM
0

Women don't shit test guys they're attracted to.
/r/seduction02/07/24 02:03 PM
–

Most men are ugly to women. So most men have incredibly low standards as they have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:27 AM
3

Men have very low standards and have to take what they can get. Women have ridiculous standards. You also see loads of women rejecting men who are objectively above them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:49 AM
3

Don't do long-distance. If you're in the area or she is then you can hook up. If not, don't.
/r/seduction27/06/24 07:58 PM
1

Work on both. Women care primarily about looks, but you also can't be a total vegetable and not have any substance about you.
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:21 AM
4

Yes, looks are king in today's dating market.
/r/seduction27/06/24 09:40 AM
-1

Always worked for me. Why is it bad?
/r/seduction26/06/24 02:15 PM
-4

"We should hang out/meet up."
/r/seduction26/06/24 01:19 PM
1

Why are you spending $100 per date!?
/r/seduction26/06/24 12:02 PM
1

6eag, that is very selective for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:26 PM
2

I assume all women will find me ugly anyway so I just to stick to online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:14 PM
3

What other options are there aside from OLD? That's all I've done for the last 10 years. Dating in general is harder for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:53 PM
1

The source says that over 50% of men get less than one match a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:49 PM
1

One match a day is hardly good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:46 PM
3

No, and it's irrelevant. Men have the burden of performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:26 PM
1

Yes, most men have no options. That is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:58 PM
1

I don't think I'll ever be happy with how I look, even with cosmetic work done. Just how it is. Desire is good. Wouldn't you want someone who is highly attracted to you and everything is so much easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:59 AM
1

Those won't have genuine desire for these average men. Everyone is insecure to an extent. Unfortunately, many men aren't meant to reproduce due to their genetics. That's nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:39 AM
1

Genuine question now: Do you genuinely think that there's someone for everyone? If so, what should the average guy do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:14 AM
1

Keep approaching women like a simp and giving them validation bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:11 AM
1

Why would I approach a woman? Why are you obsessed with confidence? It doesn't matter with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:07 AM
1

That doesn't mean I don't pull lol. Again, confidence doesn't mean shit to women. I'm not confident about how I look yet still pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:00 AM
1

But I'm not ugly lol. Ugly or average guys don't get women. You talk about confidence as if it means anything in dating. Again, if you're not even successful, why should anyone listen to your advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:56 AM
1

But you don't even have any success lol. Why would I listen to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:47 AM
1

For acknowledging that women like attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:43 AM
1

W9ken do make it very easy for you if they're highly attracted to you. You just don't know that because you're average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:38 AM
1

If you're good-looking enough, you can get away with it. Why do you think that women are better socialised?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:29 AM
1

Loads of guys with no social skills do fine with women. You're in no position to offer advice as you have no success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:24 AM
1

Because I'm telling you how it is. If you're having to put in a lot of effort to date her, then she's not attracted to you. You're not successful, and yet you're offering advice...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:21 AM
1

I don't have issues with women. I've probably done far better than you have. Why are you offering advice when you're not even successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:17 AM
2

If you need to put in a lot of effort for a woman, then she's not really into you. It should be a simple and easy task. There is no need to complicate it. I suppose being an average looking guy you wouldn't know about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:14 AM
2

Right, so why would women want an average guy? They're certainly not going to find him hot and have genuine desire for him, even if they "date." The fact that you need to put in that effort to even get a woman says everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:08 AM
2

It doesn't matter if you're average, though. Women don't want average men trying to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:03 AM
1

I'm not sure about that. Average doesn't really cut it in 2024. Women aren't attracted to average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:39 AM
1

Men have very low standards. Very few men are gay. The vast majority want women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:18 AM
1

Only very few men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:13 AM
1

If you're average looking, how are you dating lots if women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:12 AM
6

Men are attracted to average women. It's women who don't like average men. Men view most women as at least somewhat average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:09 AM
0

Yes and many do have delusional standards for it. How can a woman struggle to get casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:04 AM
1

Ugly men can't get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:04 AM
1

Men have to take what they can get and have incredibly low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:03 AM
1

With prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:03 AM
-3

Yep, that's a fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:37 PM
1

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:45 PM
0

Are you sure they're ugly mid looking? If they were their gf wouldn't be attracted to them and they certainly wouldn't be able to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:45 PM
1

Many in the US, for instance. Particularly the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:44 PM
2

Men have incredibly low standards and have to take what they can get
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:26 PM
1

That doesn't mean that women aren't far more picky when it comes to looks. Men have very low standards. You're talking about long-term. These women aren't attracted to these men themselves, rather their money. Aka betabuxx. I haven't asked a woman out in my life as they all find me ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:25 PM
1

Definitely are. Very picky on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:37 PM
1

I am sorry you feel that way. Hopefully you feel better soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:32 PM
1

Not as harsh in what way? Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:32 PM
1

So, why would women think different?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:20 PM
1

No, women have a far higher bar for men's physical attractiveness (viewing over 80% of men as below average). Men have very low standards for women's attractiveness and have to take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:19 PM
1

How? If women have rejected me before, why wouldn't others?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:10 PM
1

I don't hate myself. I just see the world for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:07 PM
1

Because you're gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:05 PM
1

You can sort of read their minds by looking at facial expressions. Luckily, I don't even look at them in the eye because I know they will find me ugly. But women have found me ugly before, so therefore I have no hope. Why would others disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:04 PM
1

And if I did, they'd find me ugly, right? I mean I have been rejected before...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:01 PM
2

I can't help my genetics. Women don't want average in 2024. So are you telling me that I shouldn't automatically assume that every woman just finds me ugly/doesn't like me? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:58 PM
2

These men have to jump through all of these hoops to even be considered. Women don't like average. Why should I try? If it's a guaranteed no, what is the point? Why should I humiliate myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:46 PM
135

Personally, I don't care. But these guys have probably been scorned enough and see it as a form of revenge (at least some do).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:43 PM
1

Yes, I agree. But I'm saying that for some women Chad isn't enough and are instead expecting professional athletes and singers and won't settle for less. That is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:42 PM
2

That son of a gun always gets the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:39 PM
2

No, it's not good news at all. I don't even look at women on the street or gym because I always know they'll find me ugly. Personality doesn't matter. How dare you try and tell me to humiliate myself by asking women out/approaching them when I'll be rejected for sure? Who are you to offer shit advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:38 PM
1

Yes, there are levels to this. These women can easily get casual sex from an attractive guy, but he's not attractive enough to them. Their ideal guy doesn't want her in all likelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:34 PM
2

Those men are paying for it. Those women aren't attracted to them. I haven't approached a woman since 2012 for instance and I've never asked a woman out (in person) as I know it's a guaranteed rejection. Those women don't love those men. Why do only a small percentage of men get likes and matches on things like Tinder? Why does the golden ratio exist if looks are "subjective"? Why do men who have similar features (good faces, tall, broad builds, etc) get the most success? No, what you've said ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:33 PM
3

Why is it a good thing? What exactly do you want men to get from this? Confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:11 PM
2

Yeah, they get nothing because women don't want them. Nothing more, nothing less. Somehow it's a good thing that women find different men attractive lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:04 PM
2

But these men don't have any women attracted to them. Why should they try? No, it's not a good thing at all. Men like all types of women, whereas many men have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:58 PM
5

It kind of is objective. I know plenty of guys who have never even approached/asked a woman out because they know it'll be a guaranteed rejection as no woman finds them good-looking. What you've said even shows how bad it is for men. That isn't good at all if that's true. Men have very low standards for women on the other hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:46 PM
5

Damn, no wonder so many men have no hope then as they're objectively ugly to all women. Hard to get either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:37 PM
2

She may just want an NBA, EPL player or multibillionaire to slide into her DMs and she will not accept anything less. That is delusional yet many of them have that belief. Define court her. You don't need to put in much effort if they're highly into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:36 PM
2

Well, yes. Women have to be extremely selective in general. They get pregnant and have safety concerns. She has that burning desire for that hot guy with the great sexual chemistry, but for the LTR the guy is at a bit of a disadvantage as she can often fantasise about the aforementioned hot guy. She will also compare her LTR to him and this can often lead to resentment and bitterness in the relationship. It's much better when the woman has a very high level of attraction to you from the start. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:33 PM
6

The standards for looks in short-term are extremely high (tall, good-looking, muscular, race, etc.). Vast majority of men don't fall into those categories. These are the men that they have genuine attraction for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:24 PM
-1

With the average Chad? No. GigaChads? Yes, they often would struggle. Hence being delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:22 PM
1

Because why would this guy even meet them when he has considerably hotter women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:17 PM
1

They can get casual sex with vast amounts of men, but many of them refuse to have casual sex with anything less than a GigaChad (6'5+, rich, extremely good looking and muscular). They can still have delusional standards about it, but not struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:10 PM
4

No woman struggles to get casual sex. I meant for long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:59 PM
1

Based on reality. They're not fully attracted to these men. He's less likely to cheat and she can boss him around as he has less/no other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:53 PM
15

Many of them do have delusional standards, particularly online and when it comes to casual sex in general. For long-term, yes they are a lot more relaxed and will settle for what they see as a safe option. They often won't have a burning genuine desire for this guy (which is ideal).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:44 PM
1

They always have endless men, no matter their circumstances. Why are men seen as losers and unattractive to women if they don't earn a certain amount?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:34 AM
1

Susan Boyle... Women always have endless men wanting to date them, no matter their finances. Yes, women are attracted to money and power. That's partly what drives men to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:25 AM
1

It's not, but believe what you want. You hear stories of ugly old men who have money and power still having women wanting to be with them, the opposite isn't true. Look at Nigel Farage, for instance You're really desperate for this to be an issue for women in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:15 AM
0

For a man in his 60s, he's a 3. Overall, he's a 1. How is he objectively a 4.5? He has literally zero good features.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:02 AM
2

But it enhances men's dating prospects with women. They realise that their chances of getting a relationship/sex go up with it. The opposite isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:22 PM
1

You think that money makes women attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:06 PM
1

Your claim that men literally wank over the fact that women are rich is really bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:40 PM
2

They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:38 PM
1

If a woman calls you hot but won't fuck you, then she's probably lying.
/r/seduction21/06/24 06:25 PM
1

I meant in terms of being "successful" as the masses would see it simply because he has a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:05 PM
1

Yet women are far more selective when it comes to looks than men are, whilst most men have very low standards and have to take what they can get. In women's eyes, most men are unattractive, yes. If she's not attracted to you, that just leads to resentment and issues in the relationship. Being in a relationship doesn't mean successful. It shows a lack of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:47 PM
1

Yet women are far more selective when it comes to looks than men are, whilst most men have very low standards and have to take what they can get. In women's eyes, most men are unattractive, yes. If she's not attracted to you, that just leads to resentment and issues in the relationship. Being in a relationship doesn't mean successful. It shows a lack of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:47 PM
1

That's the best many can hope for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:43 PM
1

But men's money does make them more desirable. Women are the ones making outrageous standards for how much their partner makes. How exactly are men the sexual choosers? Most men don't have any options with women. Women find most men below average. How can they be the choosers with no options?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:37 PM
1

Because they're in the same social circles... Are you okay? What even are you bothered about? What do men want in women in your opinion? Note that women are the sexual choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:39 PM
1

They don't. Many rich men date broke women. It's not the money that makes them attractive, you stupid idiot. It's the fact that they're in the same social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:34 PM
1

You seem bitter about this. They meet them through social circles. Again, women's money has no bearing on their attractiveness. If it did, why don't men put ridiculous standards for how much women should make like women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:25 PM
1

But women are the selectors. The batista is attractive in many cases. What exactly is attractive about the barrister? As long as they're physically attractive, fun, feminine, and kind, men don't care. Why are you struggling to accept this? Are you honestly claiming that there are no attractive female baristas? Wtf are you talking about? Those women are picking these men because of the men's money. One of the main reasons for the gender pay gap is that men realise that their career/money is a big…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:12 PM
1

Men don't "choose." Women are the choosers. Those rich men marry women in their social circles. That's how most people meet. It has nothing to do with their money making them attractive. Those things you listed are attractive in women. Why would money be? You clearly don't know anything about men if you think that money/career is high on their agenda. Men would happily date or marry a Starbucks barrister if she were attractive enough and feminine. Rich men don't tend to marry rich women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:00 PM
3

Men don't "choose." Women are the choosers. Those rich men marry women in their social circles. That's how most people meet. It has nothing to do with their money making them attractive. Those things you listed are attractive in women. Why would money be? You clearly don't know anything about men if you think that money/career is high on their agenda. Men would happily date or marry a Starbucks barrister if she were attractive enough and feminine. Rich men don't tend to marry rich women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:59 PM
1

Most men on apps and in person aren't getting casual sex lol. Women don't care about personality. They're primarily attracted to looks. Unattractive men don't date lmao. Wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:52 PM
3

The men are richer, making them more attractive to women. The opposite isn't true. Why are you so keen for rich women to be desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:50 PM
1

The dead bedroom sub has nearly half a million users... Women swipe left on 95% of men on Tinder. They view most men as unattractive. Online is the most common method to meet people irl now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:23 PM
5

No, their options are greater quantity and more attractive. Men don't care about how rich a woman is. Why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:19 PM
4

They don't give a fuck about dating rich women. Women's money have no bearing on their attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:20 AM
1

DM.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:15 AM
1

You're the one bullshitting by claiming that looks don't matter and confidence does. I can show you my Tinder and what I look like. If you don't believe me, then it doesn't change reality. You were the one going on my profile to look at my post history. Looks are the only thing women care about in 2024. Your ridiculous theories about confidence doesn't cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:13 AM
1

Confidence doesn't mean shit if you're ugly. The only reason girls would have rejected me in the past was due to my looks. Those men can't get laid unless they pay for it. You're frankly a liar and a disgusting scumbag trying to hoodwink men. Looks are far more important than your "confidence," which is meaningless on its own. The reason why my results shot up was because I became better looking. That's it. How the fuck are they meant to tell my "confidence" from dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:05 AM
1

Young men struggle to get either casual sex or relationships. They have to take what they can get and have incredibly low standards Women control both.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:59 AM
3

Both. Most men have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:48 AM
1

But you are gaslighting. You think that confidence and "game" matter. You still haven't explained why I'm far more successful now after I became much better looking. I'm sure that that's just a coincidence though, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:48 AM
1

How the fuck do men have an easier time getting into relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:46 AM
5

Wow, great comeback as you know I'm right. Women are far more picky and stats back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:44 AM
1

Yet you advocate for "confidence" and "game" and that looks somehow don't matter. You're deliberately misleading guys due to some scumbag agenda you have. That is gaslighting. Between 70 and 80.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:43 AM
2

There is no game for your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:32 AM
4

Women are just far more selective overall, the ratio has little to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:32 AM
2

It is gaslighting to claim that looks don't matter whilst confidence does. You'd probably advise men to buy stupid PUA courses. So I've had cosmetic work done and all of my results shot up 1,000x, including from dating apps. Odd you ignore that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:31 AM
2

Because it's incredibly vague and obviously not true. Confidence is derived from past success and no amount of confidence can make up for an ugly face. Why does this bother you so much? Why are you so keen to gaslight?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:23 AM
2

To advise men of the truth that looks are the most important and that confidence doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:19 AM
2

No, I misread your previous comment. I meant that men becoming more successful and richer enhances their dating prospects with women. Why would rich women come into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:18 AM
2

Nope. They're not. A woman's wealth and money make no difference to her attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:15 AM
2

No, it has nothing to do with confidence. Confidence doesn't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:11 AM
1

They're not in relationships because they're not attractive to women. They can't get regular sex otherwise. Loads of dead bedrooms exist. Just because a woman is in a relationship with you, it doesn't mean she's attracted to YOU. Your anecdotal experiences don't mean much. Most men are just unattractive to all women. Women now have unrealistic standards due to dating apps and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:52 AM
2

Sure, whatever you say. Why did all my results shoot up when I had cosmetic work done and attractiveness up considerably?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:23 AM
3

Looks are the most important, particularly in 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:19 AM
3

That's generally tied to success, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:58 AM
3

People are shallow because we make snap judgements based on looks and we need to find someone physically attractive to want to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:41 AM
3

People are shallow in general. If they have a "great personality" but you aren't attracted to them, you're going to only view them as a friend in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:28 AM
0

All porn is cucked in a sense. You're still watching another guy fucking a girl you want to fuck. Never appealed to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:26 AM
1

Pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:18 AM
5

It's also a driver for men in their hunger to succeed. For example, the more successful they become, the better their daring prospects become (at least in theory).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:17 AM
11

To find Chad? Sure. Overall? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:15 AM
1

Exploiting them and a safe bet. They cheat on them on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:35 AM
1

Even for his age he's hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:33 AM
1

Lol bro you're a man (supposedly) and you're worried about some "connection." It's embarrassing.
/r/seduction20/06/24 10:39 PM
2

Okay, bro. Keep chasing these pointless "connections" like some 30+ year old chick. You're not even successful with dating yet offering advice...
/r/seduction20/06/24 10:21 PM
1

Why would not approaching them be treating them like shit? If she's actually attracted to you then you should make her happy and validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:40 PM
1

I don't treat them like shit, I just don't need to approach as not only is it a waste of time and pointless, women don't want to be approached by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:12 PM
1

Why wouldn't you want a woman who is highly attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:01 PM
0

Probably far more experienced than you.
/r/seduction20/06/24 04:42 PM
-1

Yeah, because it's really a thing.../s
/r/seduction20/06/24 04:30 PM
1

That's all ages. A relationship doesn't mean she's attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:30 PM
2

Thanks, man. I still have horrendous self-esteem with women, but at least I'm in a much better place in terms of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:41 PM
1

Right, so what good features does he have? Why is it an insult to be told you look like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:22 PM
2

No, he's objectively ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:18 PM
1

What is he then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:11 PM
-1

Facially, he's a 1. Women would only be attracted to his money and status. If I looked like him at 60, then I'd never leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:11 PM
1

They subconsciously think it when they judge his face. His face isn't attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:10 PM
1

Already muscular and ripped and gotten cosmetic work done. I agree that this sub is pretty bad for the psyche overall if you take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:56 AM
1

Yeah, you're right. Farage has model tier looks..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:59 AM
1

Yeah, but having similarities to him is pretty awful. Never even asked out a woman since.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:39 AM
1

Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:26 AM
1

So, in other words, he's ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:03 AM
1

They're attracted to his money and status, not his looks. He'd be a virgin if it weren't for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:50 AM
-4

You're the one focusing on some nonsense "connection."
/r/seduction20/06/24 09:49 AM
1

He's definitely ugly, though. Someone once said I had a similar bone structure to him so reading these comments is pretty hurtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:49 AM
1

How the f*ck can you call him decent looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:45 AM
1

No, it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:30 AM
0

He's horrific looking. He has no chin, an elongated philtrum, bad teeth, and bald. If I looked like him, I'd never leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:30 AM
1

They are attracted to his money and fame, not his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:29 AM
1

Nope, he'd have no chance in either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:09 AM
1

That doesn't mean she doesn't find him physically repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:52 AM
1

Married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:40 AM
1

He is ugly to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:21 AM
1

Yet he's ugly to all women on earth but has money and status and so does okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:57 AM
2

These women are attracted to his money, not him or his behaviour. I already told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:56 AM
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These men buy the love. It's not a genuine attraction. Women are the choosers, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:49 AM
1

Explain Nigel Farage. It can buy you sex and a relationship, not genuine desire. I agree with that. However, many women say that they don't entertain men who don't earn a certain amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:43 AM
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Yet, why is it the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:37 AM
0

That isn't average. He has no chin and an elongated philtrum. He looks horrendous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:26 AM
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But men's career and money do have a big impact on their attractiveness, whilst it doesn't for women. It's these women's behaviour that makes them unattractive, not their money. Susan Boyle became rich and famous, yet men didn't want anything to do with her. We just don't value the same things. It does bother you. You don't want to accept reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:24 AM
0

Yep, but nowhere near as monstrous looking as Farage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:15 AM
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Because generally those women coke from good families, which pushes such traits. Just because a woman doesn't have money, it doesn't mean she's a bad person. Why does the fact that a woman's money has no bearing on her attractiveness to men annoy you? Men don't care about these things. Men realise that their career has a big impact on their attractiveness, that's why so many do all they can to get to the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:15 AM
-1

There are no uglier men. Impossible. Unless you mean The Elephant Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:58 AM
-2

No, even for his age, he's a 1. No woman would find him physically attractive. He's bald and doesn't even have a chin. If I looked like him at that age, I'd probably top myself. He's lucky because if he weren't rich and famous he would be a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:47 AM
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People generally mingle in similar classes (such as areas, place of work, etc) where people often earn the same. Just because a woman is broke, it doesn't make her trashy. If she's trashy then she's trashy. A lot of OnlyFans girls earn a but are certainly trashy. Men just don't care about women's money. Why would men fap over money or income? It doesn't make sense. It's just women projecting what they find attractive in men. It's like when women on Tinder or other apps act as if their job in Fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:40 AM
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Money has no real bearing on a woman's attractiveness. A broke woman doesn't matter to men as they're not hypergamous. He'd be top of the dating hierarchy for men in terms I'd his SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:25 AM
-4

Yeah, you're right. A "connection" is just some silly thing women say.
/r/seduction20/06/24 06:17 AM
3

Nigel Farage is an objective 1/10 and yet apparently has no issues with women. No woman is physically attracted to him, only his money and status. It's not real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:16 AM
-5

Sounds weird and scary. Never heard of it.
/r/seduction20/06/24 06:14 AM
1

What the Hell is a "connection"?
/r/seduction20/06/24 06:09 AM
1

Only if there's some initial attraction in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:08 AM
1

Yet how aren't they shallow?
/r/seduction20/06/24 06:07 AM
2

Until she sees what he looks like and is repulsed. There was a show called "Dating in the Dark" years ago which had a similar premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:06 AM
1

How come I've been rejected before out of interest?
/r/seduction19/06/24 11:50 PM
1

Yet you don't have evidence to the contrary. You actually believe that men are more picky about looks.
/r/seduction19/06/24 09:58 PM
1

I had to assert my dominance somehow.
/r/seduction19/06/24 08:00 PM
3

Cold approach only works for Chads. PUA doesn't work for ugly or average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:14 PM
3

Lol, my self-esteem is already shot, and you're telling me to make it even worse by being rejected even more by "shooting my shot"? You're a complete scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:13 PM
1

Nah, men are attracted to feminine women. Women are just projecting what they find attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:58 PM
61

Without the aforementioned, you cannot get your foot in the door as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:54 PM
2

https://youtube.com/shorts/YXPXeI60xoU?si=eqZirHIPLdiH-yKG
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:22 PM
3

No, women don't want to be approached by the vast majority of men. Why would I want her to appreciate me approaching? Yes, if women reject you, they want your genetics dead. They want your genes to die out as they see you as genetically inferior. Wtf else would it mean? It's even better that less men approach now. Women want this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:20 PM
1

Well, why would I get dinner in the first place? Why would I give these women validation by approaching them or attending these events just to be rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:44 PM
2

They settle. Women view most men as below average. The vast majority of men can only get sex via paying. They will never have women attracted to them. Men who don't have sex are very average. Many men have never even asked a woman out because they know it'll be a guaranteed rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:42 PM
3

Men have to take what they can get. The vast majority have zero options with women. You're a scumbag who tries to get men to humiliate themselves in public by getting them to approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:26 PM
1

It isn't how you get a girlfriend. If you're average, then you have no chance. Women don't want average men. Your advice is horrible. Why the FUCK should I approach some woman and give her validation you fucking prick?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:21 PM
1

But those women aren't attracted to them. Women don't want to meet men irl if they're average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:09 PM
1

The "doing wrong" bit is down to genetics. Why should you shoot your shot and boost her ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:00 PM
1

Yet, it never works for them. How can consistent rejections be good for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:46 PM
1

What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:10 PM
1

Online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:10 PM
1

So why should men approach if they're average?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:09 PM
2

I got way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:09 PM
1

Oh okay bro. Women don't have any standards...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:59 PM
1

I talk to them on here and Tinder. Women also told me that they "didn't feel a connection" following a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:49 PM
1

Why would you want her to feel good?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:48 PM
1

Most men will be rejected anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:47 PM
2

Wow, 10 likes...p
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:47 PM
2

My current Tinder has hundreds of likes/matches. Those men are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:42 AM
1

Approaching the woman gives her validation. It does mean you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:42 AM
8

I tried this approach once. Unfortunately, her boyfriend was there, and he punched me upon the tooth.
/r/seduction19/06/24 10:28 AM
1

She rejects you because you're ugly. Why should men approach women anyway? Women don't want to be approached by 95% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:34 AM
2

Yet those men don't fuck those women. Compare it to the average woman and how many likes she gets. Women swipe left on 95% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:33 AM
1

It's not exactly hard to not be fat...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:23 AM
2

Plenty on here say that if you're an average man, you should give up. Why should I trust you over them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:18 AM
2

Yes, very good shape.
/r/seduction19/06/24 06:36 AM
1

Why should they "shoot their shot"? Rejection is humiliating. It literally means that the woman finds your genes subhuman and wants you dead. That isn't insulting? Also, why are you even advocating that men approach women? Women don't want to be approached, particularly by average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:31 AM
2

Oh, so being above average doesn't help? Why the fuck would I ask a woman out? And yet what happens with that match? Compare that to the average woman and how many likes she gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:30 AM
3

Who said otherwise? I thought that this was the general consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:59 AM
1

Average men can't get shit from cold approach lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:58 AM
1

Don't approach women. It just validates her, and rejection is humiliating. No average man is going to do well at approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:54 AM
3

So what is your advice to most men? Ask women out and approach? Why? I haven't asked a woman out in my life as I know it'll be a rejection. Most men get rejected, which shows how hopeless they have it. I've ascertained that average men have it extremely difficult in dating in 2024. My advice to them is to become above average as in 2024, average doesn't cut it. I offer solutions whilst you offer disgusting gaslighting, acting as if it isn't difficult. The fact that you suggested that average men…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:33 AM
4

But women don't love and aren't attracted to average men? If you're average you have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:21 AM
5

As said, if you need to ask women out, then you are unattractive by definition. Look at how many men are in sexless relationships. Most men aren't happy in relationships because their partner has no attraction to them. If a man is struggling to get anything in the dating market, i.e., he's been rejected, then what do you advise him? Note that if you've been rejected before, then you are ugly to all women. The average man isn't doing well in dating. Face it. Look at how they do on online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:19 AM
6

Older generations. Getting married doesn't mean anything. Look at the divorce rate and how miserable most marriages are. These women aren't attracted to these men and never were. Women can't love average men. Most men have no hope to get laid other than paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:12 AM
6

So what is your advice to average men? I know plenty of men who have been rejected. I haven't approached a woman since 2012, specifically because I'm not good-looking enough. Women only want perfection in 2024, and I won't even try until I've gotten multiple surgeries. Average men have no hope. Where the fuck are average men going to meet women in 2024? Women don't want average. There's no way an average man isn't paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:03 AM
1

Women...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:57 AM
4

So they pay for it? That doesn't count. If you're average, no woman wants you. What would be your advice to men who can't get any (average or below). I'd tell them they'd need to be above average to even talk to women now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:57 AM
8

Reality doesn't say otherwise. Women have access to online dating and social media now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:56 AM
1

But they don't want men asking them out/approaching them in person, particularly if he's average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:02 AM
1

How is in person different?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:30 AM
1

Are you suggesting they're not? I've seen them online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:56 PM
1

Women are just extremely picky in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:28 PM
-1

Because I've been rejected before from first dates and so I have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:24 PM
2

Women don't want to meet men irl unless said man is a gigaChad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:10 PM
1

It shows how picky women are in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:09 PM
1

Well, the stats show that I have no hope. Women swipe left on 95% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:29 PM
1

Well, if it's guaranteed as all women find me ugly, why should I try? Answer me that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:25 PM
1

Because the vast majority of men have no women attracted to them. I have never asked a woman out because it's a guaranteed rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:23 PM
1

They're either lying or paying for it. Why would you constantly approach and ask out loads of women (fuelling their ego)?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:18 PM
3

Never do long-distance relationships.
/r/seduction18/06/24 09:09 PM
1

Women don't want men approaching them or asking them out irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:06 PM
2

Do they exist: Yes or no? Where else will he meet women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:03 PM
1

According to dating app data they only go after certain men. Some men are ugly to all women on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:02 PM
1

So inevitably he's ugly to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:56 PM
3

Because he's been rejected before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:54 PM
1

Women don't care about personality. Only looks and money. So when I've been rejected in the past, it's been because of my personality, was it? No, they thought I was ugly.
/r/seduction18/06/24 08:54 PM
3

Why would you do that? Sounds stupid. What if he's average and, therefore, has no women attracted to him? Bear in mind that women have access to online dating and social media now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:51 PM
3

So what is your advice to average men in general for dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:48 PM
1

You have no argument. You claim that people who use dating apps aren't attractive enough to meet irl. Women don't want to meet men irl unless he's a gigaChad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:45 PM
5

It still shows that young men have no hope. Why do you think men should approach women or ask them out when it's a guaranteed rejection?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:43 PM
2

https://x.com/datepsych/status/1706804066880205298 Dating apps work for plenty of men. They just need to be attractive. I have never asked a woman out or approached a woman in my life as I know it'll be a guaranteed rejection. Your data shows me why. Women want perfection in 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:39 PM
1

Dating app data. I am glad when men tell me that they have never asked a woman out or approached a woman in their life as it's pointless and a guaranteed rejection. It shows that they are rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:35 PM
3

Average men are invisible in 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:31 PM
7

Given how hard the average man has it in 2024, it could be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:29 PM
9

Nah, women aren't attracted to average men. Particularly in 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:27 PM
10

Most men are below average in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:26 PM
4

Younger generations are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:24 PM
9

The vast majority of young men don't have dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:23 PM
10

Average men have no hope in 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:22 PM
5

Well, most young men miss out due to social media and dating apps. They can't cut it in 2024. I don't blame them for giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:22 PM
1

Probably paying for it. They're not attractive enough otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:14 PM
1

Why would men turn up to a speed dating event anyway? I know this is an old comment, but it just seems bizarre that a man would willingly turn up to simply be rejected by all women there unless he's a massive masochist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:54 AM
1

Most men have incredibly low standards for both and have to take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:44 AM
1

Irl women are far more picky too. Men have to take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:30 AM
1

Women view most men as unattractive. Men have incredibly low standards when it comes to looks. It makes no sense that would be more picky. Those women found me physically unattractive. No other reason It has nothing to do with my "confidence and behaviour." Those mean very little to women. Stop gaslighting men into believing this crap. I did better because I becam3 better looking. Being "charismatic and ugly" doesn't mean anything. They don't get shit. These anomaly examples you gave (if they ev…
/r/seduction18/06/24 09:26 AM
3

Women are far more picky when it comes to looks than men are. When I've been rejected in the past, it was because they found me unattractive. If what you say is true, how come my results shot up when I had cosmetic surgery? Explain that. Surely, if it was "game" that was the definitive factor, then this shouldn't happen?
/r/seduction18/06/24 07:31 AM
1

That too.
/r/seduction18/06/24 06:39 AM
1

Why would you say that?
/r/seduction18/06/24 06:39 AM
2

So how can "game" save you if she's not physically attracted to you? You're talking absolute nonsense.
/r/seduction18/06/24 06:38 AM
1

Yeah, I went to one the other week. It was good. He has good content.
/r/seduction17/06/24 10:33 PM
1

Well, if there is no physical attraction, then there is no "game" that can save you.
/r/seduction17/06/24 10:13 PM
-1

Caleb Jones/Alpha Male 2.0 is pretty good. But honestly, you don't need to overcomplicate a lot of it. A woman either finds you attractive or she doesn't. Become as good looking as you can, don't be needy or weird and learn when girls are attracted to you and when they're not and you should be fine.
/r/seduction17/06/24 10:10 PM
1

Would you say that "cold approach" and day game are the best methods and if so, why?
/r/seduction17/06/24 09:51 PM
2

You don't need a coach.
/r/seduction17/06/24 09:49 PM
0

Define "game"...
/r/seduction17/06/24 09:45 PM
1

Fair enough answer.
/r/seduction17/06/24 04:16 PM
2

Where would you say women need to "self-improve" in?
/r/seduction17/06/24 03:28 PM
2

They're pretty open to all types lol.
/r/seduction17/06/24 10:36 AM
1

She's 100% cheating if in a long distance relationship as she doesn't respect the man.
/r/seduction17/06/24 08:02 AM
1

Whatever, man. I just hope that other guys aren't as gullible to accept such nonsense arrangements.
/r/seduction16/06/24 03:06 PM
1

Why don't you fuck the girls at work, then? Why would you recommend a man be in a long distance relationship? I had that option once but turned it down as it was stupid.
/r/seduction16/06/24 02:58 PM
2

Because there are girls where I live? What makes this one special? She's probably cucking you behind your back and it also signals to her that you are low value.
/r/seduction16/06/24 02:49 PM
-1

But women don't need to go through self-improvement to have value is my main point. There will always be men willing to date. Men either need to be born that way or made.
/r/seduction16/06/24 02:13 PM
3

95% are. The vast majority of men have no dating value and have to take what they can get.
/r/seduction16/06/24 02:09 PM
-1

So what type of girls are better? Women are only attracted to the top percentage of men, dating app data supports this.
/r/seduction16/06/24 02:09 PM
1

That's 95% of men. Women only want the top 5%.
/r/seduction16/06/24 02:03 PM
-1

So where exactly do they need to "self-improve" in? Men need to have value and make themselves attractive.
/r/seduction16/06/24 02:02 PM
0

Online dating says otherwise. Men have extremely low standards with looks anyway and have to take what they can get.
/r/seduction16/06/24 01:58 PM
4

So how could a woman increase her dating value other than looks? Based on dating apps they already have insane value due to the fact that they are women. Men are either born with it or need to create value. Even ugly women have insane value compared to the average man.
/r/seduction16/06/24 01:48 PM
-7

Cold approaching is inherently clown behaviour. It signals to the woman that you're low value.
/r/seduction16/06/24 01:05 PM
2

No, but women are generally only attracted to a small percentage of men. Self-improve for yourself, the women will be a nice bonus.
/r/seduction16/06/24 01:03 PM
1

Where?
/r/seduction16/06/24 01:01 PM
7

Women inherently have dating value.
/r/seduction16/06/24 01:01 PM
1

Why are you in a long-distance relationship?
/r/seduction16/06/24 07:56 AM
1

Why would you buy her dinner, though? You call me a troll buy can't even explain your reasoning. You don't need to buy them dinner to fuck. If you do, then you're a simp. Loads of guys would have fucked her without investing in her like that. Wouldn't you rather get laid with less effort and money spent? If you don't need to, don't do it. You can buy them dinner (cheap) if you've fucked her a few times and it's her birthday. Otherwise, don't. You haven't been successful enough, hence why you adv…
/r/seduction15/06/24 04:28 PM
1

Says the guy who advocates being a simp. Again, unless you're successful why are you offering advice?
/r/seduction15/06/24 07:35 AM
1

If she wants dinner then she can eat by herself. Chads don't need to jump through hoops and go through some stupid dinner date. If she makes you do this then she isn't attracted to you.
/r/seduction14/06/24 10:16 PM
0

What are your interactions like? Do you just approach at random? You can make it work, but guys on the spectrum have difficulty reading body language cues. You can train yourself to read them better as a woman's initial reaction to you will tell you everything.
/r/seduction14/06/24 06:48 PM
1

Yeah, I'm good at sports and got my own place. I have plenty of friends and a good social life.
/r/seduction14/06/24 06:40 PM
1

Never asked a girl out because no woman would ever find me attractive.
/r/seduction14/06/24 06:19 PM
0

I don't do dinner, wtf are you on about? Activity dates are too much effort.
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:54 PM
1

But I like food. I have food at home. She can eat herself if she's hungry. Why don't you fuck her BEFORE dinner? She's fucked loads of guys before.
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:40 PM
1

All women fuck without dinner for the right guy. You're just nor that guy clearly. If she wants dinner, she can eat and pay for it herself. Why should I do it?
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:38 PM
0

That girl saw you as a meal ticket. If you were Chad she wouldn't test you.
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:37 PM
1

You're in no position to offer advice.
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:35 PM
1

She can eat if she truly wants to eat dinner. I won't. If she's attracted to you then you don't need to do some simpy dinner date. That's how it is. Imagine in the past this same hoe was fucking guys who didn't have to spend a penny on them, and some vulture like you spends money before you can hit lmao.
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:34 PM
1

And why would you take them to dinner?
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:32 PM
1

So, from no prompting from them, you suggest it? Wow. I'm just perplexed because no one I know does dinner dates. It's just odd.
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:19 PM
1

Out of interest, if a girl wanted you to take her to an expensive dinner, would you still do it even if a brass was cheaper?
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:05 PM
1

I'm just trying to help/advise you, bro. It's not personal.
/r/seduction14/06/24 04:56 PM
1

Simp.
/r/seduction14/06/24 04:47 PM
1

If she wants to eat dinner, then she can. I can eat at home and then meet her. She can pay for herself as well. Why are you so keen for guys to do dinner on a first date? It's simping.
/r/seduction14/06/24 04:47 PM
1

No, if she wants dinner then she's likely not interested and trying to use me. Dinner dates are stupid as a first date. If you've got to treat her to some extravagant bullshit dinner date before you've fucked her, then that's basically you trying to bribe her. Why don't you do a cheap date and take her out once you've fucked her a few times? If she wants to grab some food with me then she can, but I'm not going to eat.
/r/seduction14/06/24 04:44 PM
0

Like dinner dates (aka simping)? I don't think you're in a position to be offering advice.
/r/seduction14/06/24 04:40 PM
7

Yep. A woman genuinely attracted to you won't make you jump through all the hoops.
/r/seduction14/06/24 03:26 PM
3

A woman either finds you attractive or she doesn't, PUAs just make it seem like it's a quantum physics equation whilst in reality it's very simple.
/r/seduction14/06/24 03:13 PM
1

Of course it isn't, bro. Whatever you tell yourself. You even admitted to having to buy her affection with stupid dinner dates. If she were into you, you wouldn't need to do that nonsense. You might as well go to a sex worker. I know loads of guys who fuck hot girls with no dinner involved. You're just a simp who can't get genuine attraction. Buying dinners for sluts. 🤣🤣🤣
/r/seduction14/06/24 02:32 PM
2

Like dinner?
/r/seduction14/06/24 02:29 PM
1

Yet you couldn't even name one legit reason to have a dinner date. If she expects you to take her to dinner before fucking then she's not into you. Remember, this same slut sucked Chad off at the club who spent no money on her. You're having to take her out wining and dining. That is the definition of simp.
/r/seduction14/06/24 02:26 PM
1

Explain your reasoning...
/r/seduction14/06/24 12:40 PM
1

Activity dates sound like a lot of effort.
/r/seduction14/06/24 11:16 AM
1

Okay, but to suggest that dinner is good is absurd. If she expect dinner, then she has low interest.
/r/seduction14/06/24 09:30 AM
-1

Paraguay is pretty safe I think.
/r/seduction14/06/24 09:04 AM
-2

Probably Paraguay.
/r/seduction14/06/24 09:03 AM
0

Great comeback. Yet you can't explain why you advise dinner dates as a first date.
/r/seduction14/06/24 09:02 AM
1

Because I don't do dinner as a first date. Should be a golden rule.
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:49 AM
0

Exactly. Simps here claiming that women will disregard you for suggesting "cheap dates." Nah, bro, they just don't have a high interest level.
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:28 AM
0

So if you're a man, why are you suggesting being a simp and doing a dinner date?
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:26 AM
1

So what do you suggest? Are you a man or a woman?
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:23 AM
0

Only once you're in a relationship.
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:21 AM
0

Yes, if she doesn't want a cheapish date but instead expects extravagance, then she's not really into you.
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:20 AM
1

Some women may perceive you as Chad. Find the ones who do. If she needs you to simp via extravagant dates, then move on.
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:19 AM
1

Because I'm not doing some stupid dinner at a restaurant with someone I don't know. Foodie calls are a thing: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333920013_Foodie_Calls_When_Women_Date_Men_for_a_Free_Meal_Rather_Than_a_Relationship
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:06 AM
0

Why would I meet someone I don't know for dinner in the first place?
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:00 AM
1

Pretty much is.
/r/seduction14/06/24 07:59 AM
0

You seem quite insulted by this.
/r/seduction13/06/24 10:26 PM
0

Exactly. Also, there is a local lunatic(s) who frequents the restaurants.
/r/seduction13/06/24 10:24 PM
-1

I can eat at home.
/r/seduction13/06/24 10:23 PM
1

Legit.
/r/seduction13/06/24 10:03 PM
1

Why invest a lot into the first date?
/r/seduction13/06/24 10:03 PM
1

Loads of guys don't need to go on dinner dates to fuck hot women. It's she's annoyed by you taking her to drinks then she's not into you.
/r/seduction13/06/24 10:00 PM
-2

She was looking for a provider. She wasn't really into you. Chads don't need to go to dinner. If he's fucking/dating several dates a week, that would be hugely expensive.
/r/seduction13/06/24 09:58 PM
1

Then why is your advice really, really bad? You admit to dating low quality women, so are you anyone to advise people?
/r/seduction13/06/24 07:00 PM
-2

They're a terrible suggestion. Dates should be cheap. You're effectively leading with your wallet by taking them out to dinner.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:57 PM
1

Women have access to them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:53 PM
1

And do you think guys should try it? Say if a guy was unsuccessful with drink or coffee dates, what should he do then?
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:52 PM
1

Yet you take used up sluts out to dinner. I think you should start rethinking your strategy.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:51 PM
1

Yeah, no dinner dates... Honestly, why are you suggesting that men do it?
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:50 PM
-3

Dates should be cheap.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:47 PM
1

Yeah, you're right. The average man is completely slaying it on Tinder and other apps...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:47 PM
-3

If a girl suggests dinner to me, then I can't be that attractive to them.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:46 PM
1

I'm fine now, thanks. This was years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:46 PM
3

You don't need to simp and go to dinner. I'd rather get advice from guys who know what they're talking about and have success. They have sex with minimal effort and money spent. Isn't that the ideal? Why would I want your bad advice? Chads don't go to dinner before they smash. Women don't need you to take them on extravagant simp dates if they actually like you.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:45 PM
-5

No offence, but I'd want to get advice from guys who are successful and know what they're talking about.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:37 PM
3

Yet you have no good advice and think that dinner is a good date idea.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:25 PM
4

No, it's genuine. Why would you take a girl out to dinner when Chad fucks her for free?
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:25 PM
1

With dinner dates? I'd rather take advice from guys who know what they're talking about, no offence
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:24 PM
2

It is. Why would you take someone to dinner you haven't fucked? No attractive men resort to that. Trust me, if she needs you to take her on dinner dates before fucking, then she isn't attracted to you.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:19 PM
2

This girl was just uninterested.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:18 PM
-8

She can eat. I won't.
/r/seduction13/06/24 06:18 PM
1

Some men are just unattractive to every woman on earth unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:17 PM
1

Lessons learned. Could have been worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:42 PM
2

They can find time for things that they want. The work/life excuse doesn't cut it. They probably just aren't attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:42 PM
1

Mediocre men don't get anything, particularly in 2024. Men have to bang/get in a relationship what they can get. The vast majority have zero options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:41 PM
1

If you haven't fucked her then yes it is. Did Chad take her on a silly dinner date before sex?
/r/seduction13/06/24 05:40 PM
2

Yeah, by former "friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:35 PM
-12

A dinner date is a simp move until you've already fucked her. Did Chad have to take her to some extravagant date?
/r/seduction13/06/24 05:33 PM
1

Yes, and I don't dispute that. I'm just saying that men can also be duped into this as they often think with their little heads. It unfortunately happened to me when I was 17, so I've been very cautious about it since.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:26 PM
1

This was a few days ago. I already said I assume that they find me unattractive anyway so I kind of left it.
/r/seduction13/06/24 05:24 PM
-5

Or just avoid them entirely... It's never okay to simp.
/r/seduction13/06/24 05:23 PM
1

But women only want perfect looking men, that is picky. That man would have no other options, why wouldn't he like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:23 PM
1

Harder for different reasons? Perhaps. Although, men can also be victims of violent crimes from dating apps and other means, such as men posing as women/women luring men into places for them to be robbed/assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:22 PM
34

The arcade is off-bounds as there is a local lunatic there.
/r/seduction13/06/24 05:20 PM
1

Well women do have insane standards for partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:19 PM
1

That is being picky. Please note that the vast majority of men have to take what they can get as no women are attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:17 PM
-8

Yeah, but why dinner at a restaurant? Why simp? If you need to go on a dinner date, then you are unattractive.
/r/seduction13/06/24 05:13 PM
1

Maybe you are too picky? Most men don't have any options, so would love a woman to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:12 PM
1

But these days women certainly do hold all of the power in the dating/sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:09 PM
1

Wow, men really do have it rough in the current dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:09 PM
-2

Why would I take her to dinner? Genuine question. Simping isn't good.
/r/seduction13/06/24 05:07 PM
10

PUAs act like dating is quantum physics, whereas in reality it's pretty simple: The woman either finds you attractive or she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:05 PM
0

It explains why they do. Women are more vocal about it specifically because they are more picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:54 PM
2

Because women are far more picky overall. Men for the most part have to take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:49 PM
3

Genetically they could be seen as such. Likely a case of natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:47 PM
6

Men's sex drive is immense and they think about sex constantly. If they're not getting it, they generally feel like losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:43 PM
16

It's the male sex drive. Sex is a massive motivator for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:42 PM
4

I know some guys who do pretty well on Tinder, but so-so on Hinge.
/r/seduction13/06/24 04:38 PM
4

More the case that you know that she will likely be swayed by a guy WITH her preferences as you don't measure up as her ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:38 PM
7

Yes, if I ever get a match again (unlikely) I'll suggest that instead.
/r/seduction13/06/24 04:34 PM
4

It's extremely rate that an average looking guy would date a hot girl, unless she's using him for nefarious means.
/r/seduction11/06/24 04:53 PM
4

You could potentially get lost in the sea of men as the amount of men hitting her up when she puts that would be astronomical.
/r/seduction10/06/24 10:11 PM
1

I am already muscular/ripped.
/r/seduction08/06/24 09:31 PM
2

Nah, ugly guys don't fuck unless they pay for it.
/r/seduction08/06/24 07:02 AM
1

Or go to 10:55 and watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLnW9TRXKn4
/r/seduction07/06/24 10:24 PM
0

Because it explains your ridiculous comment about Sean Stephenson, destroying your delusion. Go to 2:10 to see where your argument falls apart. Try and debunk what he says.
/r/seduction07/06/24 10:12 PM
2

Women find me ugly due to my face. No other reason. Women care primarily about looks. As for Sean Stephenson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLnW9TRXKn4
/r/seduction07/06/24 10:09 PM
1

What a ridiculous comment. Look at Sean Stephenson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLnW9TRXKn4
/r/seduction07/06/24 10:08 PM
2

Wow, great argument. Keep paying for stupid PUA courses and being desperate by cold approaching, bro. I'm sure it will all work out...
/r/seduction07/06/24 10:03 PM
2

Why would I approach women? Making them laugh won't make them attracted to you. If they don't find you physically attractive then there is nothing you can do.
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:57 PM
1

Clearly more than you. You can't talk your way into attraction.
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:52 PM
2

No, it's looks.
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:50 PM
1

A "connection" just means your looks.
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:47 PM
4

Mindset would be the by-product of bad looks
/r/seduction07/06/24 08:53 PM
6

Women now have access to online dating and social media. Ugly/fat guys can get laid by paying for it.
/r/seduction07/06/24 08:36 PM
1

I've been told by women following dates that there was "no spark/connection". That showed me how hopeless I am.
/r/seduction07/06/24 07:59 PM
1

I can DM you.
/r/seduction07/06/24 04:50 PM
3

That's because those men are physically attractive (which is what women care about). You can be shitty as long as you are physically attractive. Why are you annoyed over something on Reddit?
/r/seduction07/06/24 04:17 PM
4

Why would I hate women?
/r/seduction07/06/24 04:01 PM
4

"In a vast sea of men, you are lost and forgettable. To her...." - Well, she finds me ugly anyway so I was automatically out of it anyway. "You are not leveling any playing field here. You are simply eliminating yourself from her life, if she's the type of girl who will absolutely ignore you because you're giving off "bad vibes", which a lot of women do. Even if they don't say it outright, we avoid guys that are giving off shitty vibes...." - Like Jeremy Meeks and Ted Bundy? Two fantastic men wi…
/r/seduction07/06/24 04:01 PM
1

I already have a muscular/ripped physique.
/r/seduction07/06/24 03:55 PM
-2

I've been rejected before, that shows how hopeless I have it.
/r/seduction07/06/24 03:54 PM
2

No, unless they pass the initial looks threshold (women's is very high), then nothing can be done.
/r/seduction07/06/24 03:49 PM
1

For instance, I told a girl on Tinder earlier that she only finds 5% of men attractive and how most men don't have a chance. She didn't like it.
/r/seduction07/06/24 03:32 PM
1

Fucking them just really comes down to how attractive you are. I've heard that women only want 5% of men.
/r/seduction07/06/24 03:27 PM
2

Well, no because they already have enough men hitting them up on IG/Tinder. But it's just a small victory.
/r/seduction07/06/24 03:24 PM
3

How am I fumbling them exactly?
/r/seduction07/06/24 03:20 PM
1

We used to mock the guy at my gym who wore a bra. Nobody mocks him now. The moral of this story is that Redpill or not, we need to find the truth and act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:04 PM
-2

Well, they are very picky on looks.
/r/seduction07/06/24 03:01 PM
5

Sorry to hear that, man. It's tough.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:49 PM
2

But you said you already had the base to work with. Do you admit that women are very picky when it comes to looks?
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:41 PM
2

You said you were good-looking. That's why you've done well. I can't get women because they all find me ugly. That's the reason.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:38 PM
1

No, as all women find me physically repulsive, there needs to be some type of trade-off.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:34 PM
1

She needs to find you physically attractive to even give you a shot. I cannot have sex with a woman without paying for it (due to my horrible looks it would have be A LOT).
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:32 PM
-18

I'll still be ugly to all women after that.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:31 PM
-6

A bit of both. But I was hoping for some tips on what to do next.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:30 PM
1

Because you either became better looking or you are lying. If what you say is true, then you already had a good base. This won't work for a guy like me as all women want me dead/find me ugly.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:28 PM
2

Women reject me because all women find me physically repulsive and ugly. I haven't even approached a woman since 2012 because I am guaranteed to be rejected. If you're having success, then it is down to your looks. You even described yourself as "handsome"...
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:24 PM
1

You're either lying or just overestimating your attractiveness. If you were really "handsome", then why were you getting rejected? Women only care about looks and money. No woman on earth finds me physically attractive for instance, so there is nothing I can do to get a woman other than paying for it.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:19 PM
2

You offer shit advice and you call me a poser? Lmao.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:13 PM
2

No, if you got them into bed then they found you physically attractive. It had nothing to do with what you "said". I don't have girls because I'm ugly. There is no other reason behind it.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:13 PM
2

Yet you're the one doing cold approach? If you were attractive, why would you put yourself through the humiliation?
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:07 PM
1

Then you aren't that attractive if you're getting rejected, sorry to tell you. "Given me a shot". That should tell you everything...
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:03 PM
2

Okay, bro. Keep being a desperate dance monkey by approaching. Makes you look really high value.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:58 PM
0

No, you can't. How the fuck can you just say things to make yourself more attractive? Where is your evidence? Women want utter perfection in 2024. They have social media and dating apps now. Unless you meet their looks threshold, there is nothing you can do.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:55 PM
5

Complete bullshit. Women are extremely picky when it comes to looks.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:51 PM
3

I said in general. If you have to cold approach, then you are not Chad. Why the fuck would I cold approach?
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:50 PM
3

No woman finds me physically attractive so I doubt it would matter anyway.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:48 PM
-2

You can't talk your way into attraction. No woman finds me physically attractive, for instance.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:48 PM
-7

There is no "game" for your face. For instance, all women find me hideous. So what could I possibly do?
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:44 PM
6

Levels the playing field. If she has endless men hitting her up on Tinder/IG, then this can be a good thing.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:43 PM
4

Because it can be good to deflate people's egos, particularly if they have endless options.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:41 PM
-4

"Run game". Very vague.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:41 PM
-1

Good, I don't want to give them validation.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:39 PM
3

Good.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:35 PM
0

Cold approaching whilst being ugly. Also not taking no for an answer and being a pest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:25 PM
3

I do want to fuck chicks. I don't want to be some dance monkey for her entertainment by being completely desperate enough to approach every woman. It's embarrassing. Chads don't need to do this stupid cold approach. If you're attractive enough, you really don't need to.
/r/seduction07/06/24 12:58 PM
2

What is the right question? Why should I cold approach and be a dance monkey?
/r/seduction06/06/24 04:38 PM
-5

Why would I give them the ego boost/validation of approaching them? Why would I want to make them feel good about themselves?
/r/seduction06/06/24 08:23 AM
-3

Most men have no hope with women.
/r/seduction05/06/24 10:35 PM
-2

I haven't approached a woman since 2012 as I am guaranteed to be rejected.
/r/seduction05/06/24 10:35 PM
1

Men have very low standards for women's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:13 PM
1

A "connection"?
/r/seduction04/06/24 02:49 PM
-1

Keep meeting new women (via apps or irl) who are into you and keep arranging to meet them/keep in contact.
/r/seduction04/06/24 08:13 AM
2

I would leave it until she does. If she has high interest she will come back. You shouldn't be doing long-winded text conversations anyway. You should be meeting up in person and going from there.
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:58 PM
1

Out of interest, if I wanted to start cold approaching for the first time since 2012), what should I do?
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:52 PM
1

You are very welcome.
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:49 PM
3

Are you sure about that?
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:47 PM
1

I like a lot of your posts. You offer good advice, other than the cold approach bits.
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:47 PM
2

I had similar with one girl who messaged me following a date to say that we could meet up as friends. I had zero interest in that.
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:46 PM
1

If I'm rejected right off the bat, then how do they know my personality?
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:44 PM
2

Wear a bra over your t-shirt/jacket. This will show people that you are a go-getter and have an idgaf attitude.
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:43 PM
1

I can agree that men probably care more about looks, but women are far pickier at the same time when it comes to looks. The fact that you said that they have types is indicative of that. I just assume that they all find me hideous anyway. IDK about them reciprocating as I never even speak to them, I just ignore them.
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:42 PM
1

They are far more picky when it comes to looks than men are.
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:30 PM
1

What if you're horrendously ugly and all women find you ugly?
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:29 PM
1

An "abundance mentality" doesn't really apply to the vast majority of men as most live in sexual scarcity.
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:24 PM
1

Keep giving them validation and being a buffoon, bro.
/r/seduction03/06/24 04:21 PM
2

I just don't see the point in giving her validation. If she liked you, you wouldn't need to cold approach.
/r/seduction03/06/24 12:14 PM
1

Why would I cold approach, though? What is the benefit of being a dance monkey?
/r/seduction03/06/24 10:57 AM
1

This is an advert lol. Not reality.
/r/seduction31/05/24 08:20 PM
1

DM.
/r/seduction31/05/24 08:17 PM
1

Women don't really date men below their looks level. If they're not physically attracted to you then there isn't anything you can really do. Again, I don't know what these guys look like. If they exist, then they're an anomaly.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:13 PM
1

They are, though... How can men be picky when most don't have options?
/r/seduction31/05/24 04:58 PM
1

Depends on your overall attractiveness. The more attractive you are the less weird it will be and the inverse is true.
/r/seduction31/05/24 02:22 PM
1

The points scale is pretty subjective, but overall attractiveness is pretty objective.
/r/seduction31/05/24 02:21 PM
1

Truth. Confidence without the goods to back it up is just delusion.
/r/seduction31/05/24 02:18 PM
1

Were they actually ugly? Why do you think they were ugly? Were they deformed?
/r/seduction31/05/24 02:17 PM
1

I am already ripped/muscular. I just haven't approached/asked a woman out since 2012 as I assume they all would reject me.
/r/seduction31/05/24 02:17 PM
1

Thanks for the input.
/r/seduction31/05/24 02:15 PM
–

I do know an aspie who does very well with women, although he is good looking. It can hinder him, but the better looking you are the less it will hinder you generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:17 PM
4

Women are far more picky when it comes to looks than men are.
/r/seduction30/05/24 11:01 PM
-6

Why?
/r/seduction30/05/24 11:00 PM
1

On apps? Yes. You need to be in the top percentile of men on apps like Tinder.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:35 PM
2

Yes, definitely.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:29 PM
1

I don't smile at anyone, even if women smile at me at the gym or shops.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:27 PM
-3

Why?
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:26 PM
0

Only for very attractive men.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:20 PM
0

A brothel.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:19 PM
0

Confidence cannot make up for an ugly face.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:17 PM
-4

What was there to learn?
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:17 PM
4

Most men have incredibly low standards and have to take what they can get, unfortunately.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:16 PM
-15

There is nothing uglier than me. I have been told that I have quite similar eyes to that "NeverGiveUp" guy on YouTube for reference.
/r/seduction30/05/24 07:07 PM
1

I can start conversations with men all the time. I have quite a wide social network. However, I do not approach/talk to women I do not know. I don't want to give them validation and I will be guaranteed a rejection anyway.
/r/seduction30/05/24 07:02 PM
5

If you're incredibly ugly (as I am), they are definitely not going to think that you have other women.
/r/seduction30/05/24 07:00 PM
-7

There isn't. Not for me. I probably will just pay for it.
/r/seduction30/05/24 06:59 PM
9

No, I hate how I look. All women find me ugly. Those things can work, but there's a limit. If you are grotesque to look at then there isn't much you can do to make yourself attractive through personality.
/r/seduction30/05/24 06:52 PM
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