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Thanks for the detailed reply. Very interesting. She then goes on to say that it's actually useful because it allows her to separate the wheat from the chaff very early on. I don't understand what this means, except that she's intentionally mind-fucking people. Of course that doesn't surprise me, it's just weird to have it spelled out so blatantly.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/16 04:55 AM
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Care to share a name and a citation or two? I'm just curious how somebody could consciously promote one set of vitues while explictly and consciously rewarding the exact opposite. And I take back what I sad about "zero" above. The grad school adviser did marry a very BP guy, who she then cucked, leading to divorce. At first I only knew about the divorce. Later, one of my post-doc mentors (great guy, best mentor I ever had), who knew about the whole situation, made a veiled reference to it. Shock…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/16 05:39 AM
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I have found it instructive to reflect on the following: the feminist virtues extolled by my mother (and other prominent women in my life, i.e. bosses and a grad school adviser) were displayed by exactly zero men any of these women ever chose to fuck or LTR.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/16 06:02 AM
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I wouldn't rag on gay men, as most of us who have been around for awhile can see right through the veil. We don't have any incentive for seeing women as "wonderful creatures", and (at least in our youth) are often granted access to information that is carefully kept from straight men. I'm vehemently anti-feminist because of what I know.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 05:47 AM
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Neither con artist nor idiot. Creeps aren't human. Therefore, it is literally true that "no one" ever approaches her.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/16 06:58 AM
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Hah! Have an upboat from a gay guy. Sometimes I think some of the posts here are a little harsh, but when all is said and done, especially with all that I've learned reading TRP, MR, KiA, etc., I'm glad I don't have to engage with women on an intimate basis.
/r/TheRedPill19/05/16 05:40 AM
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In general I agree, but there are exceptions. The one that springs immediately to mind is Patina Miller in the relatively recent Broadway revival of Pippin. The original role of Leading Player was played by Ben Vereen, but Miller managed to manifest an even creepier vibe than Vereen.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 10:36 PM
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Tell me again about how feminists are such great allies of gay men?
/r/MensRights06/01/16 06:00 AM
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Touche!
/r/MensRights16/12/15 01:45 AM
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Because having a bushy white beard is a female trait.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 01:15 AM
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I'm not disagreeing with you. Actually, if you read the article, it was supportive of male obstetric nurses, and described research that shows that patients who have been cared for by them generally have had positive experiences. It's really the nursing school faculty that are the major obstacle. However, as I mentioned, it's a sensitive situation, and think this is one area where MRAs do in fact need to be sensitive to the wishes of others. If the research showed something different (obstetrics…
/r/MensRights04/09/15 05:49 PM
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This is a tough one. A major consideration in patient care (especially from a nursing perspective) is patient comfort, especially when undergoing particularly stressful procedures. While it's unfortunate that many women (and/or institutions) do not see male nurses as professionals on par with (e.g.) male gynecologists or obstetricians, I nevertheless think that an individual patient's concerns need to be taken seriously when it is at all possible to do so.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 04:58 AM
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North Carolina + ethnic-looking dude = maximum punishment for violating any technicality. Move along, nothing to see here...
/r/MensRights03/09/15 02:04 AM
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I was afraid this was going to be another uneducated popular media article that reported results from a cross-sectional study and thereby conflating correlation with causation. However, the basis for the article is a longitudinal study: For this study, researchers took brain scans of 18 subjects before and after their testosterone treatments. After the treatment, the levels of gray matter in Broca’s and Wernicke’s areas, two brain regions that process language, decreased, while the white matter …
/r/MensRights02/09/15 03:10 PM
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I think the key is to detach emotionally. After realizing that elections were essentially rigged (if not directly, at least via campaign resources), I began to think that the solution was to vote with dollars, i.e. strive to become as independent of big systems as possible, and thereby preserve ones labor (= dollars) for oneself, ones family, and ones immediate community. It turns out that even this game is rigged, for a variety of reasons that are too complex to get into here (basically your re…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 04:35 AM
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My guess is that you'll find the less virulent forms at Christian colleges. But then, you're dealing with a Christian college and all that entails. However, if you read the blogger Dalrock (with whom I do not always agree but he's still a valuable perspective) you'll come to find out that even most Christian churches are still very heavy into insidious forms of feminism that view men as substantially more "broken" (i.e. prone to original sin) than women. I don't know if that's true or not (I'm n…
/r/MensRights01/09/15 11:25 PM
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Yes, here it is:
/r/MensRights01/09/15 09:29 PM
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obligatory post
/r/MensRights01/09/15 09:06 PM
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I don't know that there are any known genetic predispositions. However, if somebody has been sexually abused as a child (as could easily be the case with your brother, since pedophiles are not necessarily picky about gender) then they would be at higher risk for sex offenses. So either way, your brother needs counseling. He also needs to be far away from your mother who (if I may say so) is an abject failure at motherhood. She failed to protect you from her husband, she failed to protect your br…
/r/MensRights01/09/15 04:56 AM
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Observing cause & effect is not the same thing as assigning blame. It's kind of like cancer. There are certain cancers for which we know the major risk factors. It is smart to avoid those risks if you want to avoid those particular cancers. However, once a person has a diagnosis, you would have to be a dick to blame them for their disease (see what you get for smoking!?!) What is disturbing about third-wave feminism is its insistence on equating cause & effect observations with blame. It's like …
/r/MensRights01/09/15 04:47 AM
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Are you kidding? They were lucky to get sex so effortlessly! /s
/r/MensRights01/09/15 04:39 AM
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Of course they're seizing assets from prostitution. Now that states are legalizing marijuana, that civil-forfeiture cash cow has dried up. Another must be found.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 03:53 AM
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You could come up with some numerical index by combining health disparities indices (which are reasonably well developed) with other social and economic metrics. The problem is how you weight each individual contributing factor. You can skew the result any way you want by choosing an appropriate set of weights. So in practice this is a very subjective exercise no matter how well you try to quantify "oppression". The reality is that we are all oppressed in different ways. There are concrete, tang…
/r/MensRights31/08/15 09:24 PM
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I'm OK with using the gender-specific pronoun of a person's choice. I don't buy into the fantasy that surgically altering ones genitalia and medically altering ones hormonal profile changes ones sex, but I certainly believe in common courtesy. I've known at least one FTM who I genuinely liked, and though I don't entirely agree with his choices, I certainly had no desire to offend him or make him feel uncomfortable. Where I draw the line is using coercive tactics (i.e. enlisting the power of the …
/r/MensRights29/08/15 06:11 PM
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Thanks. It's an older article, but it's a start, as it seems reasonably well cited: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=13687510963261422539&as_sdt=5,38&sciodt=0,38&hl=en
/r/MensRights27/08/15 06:11 AM
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Do you have a citation for that? I'm not challenging you (it's a believable statistic) but it would be handy to have a source, since it is a fairly significant talking point when arguing for the importance of fathers. Shouldn't we be pointing out the biggest real risk factors for rape?
/r/MensRights27/08/15 12:52 AM
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A number of gay guys (including myself) comment here from time to time. On the one hand, we don't suffer from the same asymmetry in family law; on the other, we get a double dose of vilification from assumptions about the male sex drive and about our (in)adequacy as parents. Finally, gay men are typically less prone to the women-are-wonderful effect that straight men in particular suffer from, and we are more inclined to see other men in a positive light (for the same reason).
/r/MensRights26/08/15 12:13 AM
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meh, many of the relationship issues are really the same. The TRP/MGTOW folks are correct in pointing out the evils that women are capable of, which are largely swept under the rug by western culture. Where the TRP/MGTOW folks go wrong is forgetting that men can be equally self-interested and evil, although the strategies available (and taken) typically differ between the genders and even between sexual orientations. The principal MR issues are really of a legal nature: how can we create a legal…
/r/MensRights25/08/15 09:47 PM
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Exactly. Probability/statistics fail. Average income is not the same thing as average income conditional on position and hours worked. I hate the way the innumerate (i.e. quantitatively illiterate) are given the tallest soapboxes and the loudest megaphones.
/r/MensRights25/08/15 09:33 PM
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The major actionable issues are all legal (family law, and to some extent the way colleges are being coerced to asymmetric representation in handling allegations of sexual assault). There are a number of other social issues that are important (e.g. the way issues are portrayed in the media depending on whether they inconvenience men or women more), but it's difficult to address them without coercive measures. Also, some of them are driven by immutable core human drives (e.g. women-are-wonderful …
/r/MensRights25/08/15 09:28 PM
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I recommend homosexuality. /s (from a gay man)
/r/MensRights25/08/15 09:24 PM
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I'd be willing to bet that it was removed because it offends somebody's political sensibilities. Especially because top comments support the sentiment that it represents an obvious injustice. In other words, "not funny" is just a cover for censorship.
/r/MensRights25/08/15 09:23 PM
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Hmmm... Well, thanks for being civil in this forum. I'm not a feminist, more of an "equalist". I believe in equality of opportunity, but not necessarily of outcome (e.g., women tend to make less because of choices made, not opportunities available).
/r/MensRights17/08/15 09:47 PM
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Indeed. But you know how feminists are!!
/r/MensRights17/08/15 09:29 PM
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Female-dominated fields are lower-paying clearly because Patriarchy oppresses women by devaluing the fields women want to enter. Women's studies graduates should be top-earners. ... seriously though, you still need to be careful with cross-sectional and ecological study designs, because their correlations can easily be turned around to support ridiculous statements such as the one I just made sarcastically. A more careful analysis would use a matched design to compare men vs. women in the same c…
/r/MensRights17/08/15 09:19 PM
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Political power in society is held by individuals with college educations as is the greatest individual wealth. It's true that all or most powerful individuals have college educations, but it is not true that college education leads inevitably to power. Even in relative terms anymore. For most young people today, college leads to burdensome indentured servitude as one works in low-paying thankless jobs to pay off ones student loans. Ironically, as time goes on, men in trades may actually fare be…
/r/MensRights17/08/15 06:51 AM
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Yes, but the sexual dynamics are more complex. A gay man may express masculine preferences (emphasizing youth and beauty), feminine preferences (emphasizing physical and/or social power), or either at different times. Maybe possibly even both at the same time. More importantly (for me anyway), most gay men still participate in wider society where pheromonal male/female dynamics exist at a subliminal level. It pays to be aware of them and have tools for navigating them. Especially if professional…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 04:57 AM
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You're nitpicking. Yes, metabolism is complex, and that calorie for calorie, lipids are less obesogenic than carbohydrates. I'm not going to cover a physiology dissertation in a Reddit comment about sexually attractive traits. The larger point is that there is some time-variation in what is considered sexually attractive, dependent to some degree on environmental context. This environmental context is mostly of a biological, not social, nature, but some of it is mediated by social cues. My point…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 03:03 AM
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No, it's not opposite at all. Appetite is a relatively constant function of evolutionary drives selected for in carbohydrate-poor environments, leading humans to favor fatty, starchy, and salty food. When these foods are plentiful, most people still indulge, leading them to become obese. Thus, a slim figure signals either contextually-appropriate relative resistance to those drives or else high metabolic rate that counters the obesity, in either case a contextually favorable adaptation indicativ…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 12:06 AM
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Ask her if she would prefer that safeguard not to happen and how she would feel if someone switched the babies on her. This is a much better counter-argument. Most women recoil in horror at the idea that a woman should be deceived into raising a child that is not biologically hers. Somehow, it's OK when the deceived party is a man.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 10:03 PM
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It's possible that standards re: adiposity could change over time. In a carbohydrate-rich environment (e.g. Western countries today) a slim figure is indicative of good health. In a carbohydrate-poor environment (i.e. most of the history of civilization prior to the industrial era) a "Rubenesque" figure would be indicative of relatively better health.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/15 08:17 PM
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Interestingly, I see an uptick in men interested in nursing. Also (anecdotally), contrary to the stereotype, I see a lot of "manly" men entering into the field, e.g. ex-marines. My explanation is that it is a somewhat technical, somewhat dirty job that can be high-adrenaline and unlikely to be automated any time soon.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 08:02 PM
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There are some (many?) radical feminists who have gone on record with saying exactly, literally this: all "PIV" sex is rape.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 01:21 AM
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The article specifically noted that even the presence of these women is a problem. It is. The presence of even one woman in a gay bar can entirely change the vibe. Mostly because the vibe is based on a low level of undifferentiated sexual tension, which the presence of a female will break. But I think this is a general phenomenon: male-only spaces (gay or straight) change significantly with the presence of women. However, nowadays, the only male-only spaces that are even allowed are for gay men,…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 05:15 PM
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You're right that AWALT is objectively stupid and illogical. However, it functions as an emotional antidote to the "women are wonderful" effect, which is the major distal cause of the problems most of those guys have. In other words, its just the swing of a pendulum. Doubling down on AWALT philosophy leads to the kind of toxicity espoused by the most Machiavellian (and likely wounded) members of TRP, but I'm optimistic that it's a way station for most of the other members, on their way to holdin…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:52 PM
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Here's my summary of TRP: I like the fact that TRP is a place where men can tell their stories, get feedback, and solve personal problems. However, there is a bit of toxicity there, and even more in some of its affiliate blogs (one is so racist that I can't justify giving it page hits). Also, one of its major philosophies, AWALT, combines a simplistic model of feminine sexual behavior (which probably somewhat true in terms of population averages, though it ignores a great deal of variability and…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 09:21 PM
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My point exactly. For a lot of men, maybe even most men, college is unnecessary.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 03:07 PM
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Fair enough. "Intersectionality" as a political philosophy/approach, with its focus on victimhood, is a dead end.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 03:05 PM
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If you were gay then this would be an awesome, once in a lifetime offer. Not really even. In my younger days I had access to some wealthy men, but I never felt good about the power dynamic, so I passed up these "opportunities". A little later in my life I dated an investment banker for a year, and at the end of it there was a small part of me that believed my life could be endangered if I didn't make myself as invisible as possible. Not worth the loss of self-respect. Not worth the physical dang…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 07:39 AM
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I don't mean to be flip, but there may be a silver lining. Have you considered that college is a rigged game? That by incurring student debt (which would probably still be necessary unless you were lucky enough to win an extremely generous scholarship), you are committing yourself to a decade or two of indentured servitude? Obviously, if you are targeting a specific professional career (e.g. medicine, law, or engineering) that requires a BA/BS from a prestigious college as the first step, then i…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 07:30 AM
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I agree that "oppression olympics" is inherently uninteresting and counterproductive. Nevertheless, the disparities are real. What you do with the information is another matter. Do you latch on to your particular intersectionality and cling to the identity, demanding more power for your group and your group only? Or do you see all of the different intersectionalities and realize that they all function together as different parts of a dysfunctional system? I am interested in disparities data beca…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 07:11 AM
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Yeah, the problems are complex and multifaceted. I think somebody could propose any number of solutions, each to address a specific aspect of a very general problem involving poverty, economic disparities, health disparities, etc. However, the central platform of mainstream feminism involves none of these, and instead focuses on a very narrow set of (potentially legitimate) problems whose solutions will benefit mostly white women, who are the most privileged class of people (except possibly uppe…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 09:53 PM
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Anyway, I'm curious what you mean by "the burdens of feminism are borne by men-of-color." Could you explain that a bit more? This is more of a macroeconomic effect than one that occurs on an individual level. (I'm not saying that the "feelz" aren't important, but the most objective and therefore easy-to-discuss measure of inequality is economic.) As most veterans of this forum know, men may overwhelmingly occupy the highest positions of power, but we also occupy the lowest positions as well, tak…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 04:39 PM
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I don't have a problem with intersectionality unless it's used to grandstand and restrict focus to the needs of one subgroup over all others. One of the major problems with feminism is that it privileges the needs of white women over just about every other demographic, and the benefits of feminism that accrue to (almost exclusively) white women often extend to their spouses indirectly. Meanwhile, the burdens of feminism are borne by men-of-color more than white men, and these burdens extend to w…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 04:14 PM
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At various times I've thought that a useful retirement career for me might be counseling, with a specialization in men's issues. But then I think about all the anti-male BS I would have to go through in order to get the appropriate credentials, and then I think ... naaah!
/r/MensRights10/08/15 01:56 PM
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I'll just leave this here.... Note the following quote: White women prefer white men to the exclusion of everyone else—and Asian and Hispanic women prefer them even more exclusively.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 06:05 PM
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I'll just leave this here and pick out the money quote: White women prefer white men to the exclusion of everyone else—and Asian and Hispanic women prefer them even more exclusively.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 07:11 AM
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I don't subscribe to the Myth of Progress. However, at any given moment, something is always collapsing and something is always rising. I think this is a beautiful take on the long-range outlook: The Next Ten Billion Years.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/15 06:46 AM
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In general you're right of course. Nevertheless, everybody needs to tell their story. Bearing witness to another person's suffering is an extremely important function. The deep wound that seems to be a common thread in this forum is that, for the most part, women are not interested in performing this function for men, despite the dream (lie?) that it would be possible to find such a woman. They may have been in the past, they may not have been. Either way, I think male friendships were also supp…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/15 06:15 AM
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"Urban" is usually a code for non-white. Given that "urban" men are more likely to be convicted than a non-urban man or an urban woman (for the same crime and level of evidence), this system will reinforce the biases that already exist in the criminal justice system.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 04:54 PM
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Due process for sexual assault adjudication. Obviously sexual assault is wrong and wrongdoers should be punished, but the current trends run counter to centuries of Western jurisprudence and open the gates for more crimes where innocence must be proven (against a stacked deck of presumed guilt). I also think the way the family court system is stacked against husbands and fathers is a close second.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:19 PM
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It might be one of those things where you see it only after "taking the red pill". Before, it seems like Steve is just a sensitive kid and Stan is a total asshole. After ... well, Stan is still an asshole, but he often gets what he wants, and Steve is just a loser who repulses even his mother.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/15 10:53 PM
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Try watching American Dad! reruns. It's subtle (at first it seems as if it's attacking or making fun of RP principles), but if you watch enough episodes you'll see an unmistakable pattern of RP philosophy. Since it's a cartoon, it'll seem harmless....
/r/TheRedPill01/08/15 09:59 PM
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Bear in mind that playing as if you understand the rules is more important than following them to the letter. Knowing when they can be broken to your advantage does not negate their existence. One other small thing: You can start innovating when you're role is about innovating. That's still not even true. Many roles that seem on paper to be about innovation are more about making predetermined decisions look as if they were innovation. Again, know the real rules, know the real role.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/15 06:47 AM
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Meh, no surprise. Just about everything these days is "about what government funding we can get and how can we get it". At least everything that relies on substantial grant funding (including and especially scientific research).
/r/MensRights01/08/15 06:02 AM
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TRP presents a very simplified model of gender-based human interactions. It's accurate as a first-order approximation, and therefore useful for navigating a great many social interactions, especially when there is not much available information other than gender and other superficial characteristics. However it's a mistake to believe in it too strongly, to think that it addresses complexities, especially when a great many variables other than gender are known.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 03:19 AM
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The funny thing is, when feminists oppose due process in favor of inflammatory emotional response to sexual assault, they further reinforce the idea that women (let's face it, the most vocal feminists are almost always women) are purely emotional creatures incapable of abstract reasoning. [Disclaimer: I do not personally believe this, and I cite my love of Karen Straughan's work as an example.]
/r/MensRights30/07/15 09:36 PM
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meh, there are some benefits that outweigh the risks as you advance in age (trust me on the aging part). I have reservations about marriage (and certainly would advise younger straight men living in English-speaking countries to avoid it), but my partner and I do plan to marry, mostly because medical power of attorney and tax-free inheritance of real estate are important issues once you inch closer to (or away from) 50.
/r/MensRights27/07/15 10:50 PM
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No need to insult the kid. He may be young, but he's smart enough to reject the gynocentric programming early in life. Which is more than I can say for many of us middle-aged readers.
/r/MensRights27/07/15 01:06 AM
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Hilarious. Not only does the the xojane author not know much about r/MR, she also knows very little about the evil methods of r/TRP (which, on a first date, are principally about exuding superficial charm, not heavy-handed commanding or, god forbid, whining and pleading). Also, what competent follower of r/TRP would offer up that they read either r/TRP or r/MR on a first date with a rabid feminist ... unless they were trying to get away from her as quickly as possible? I'd wager that she doesn't…
/r/MensRights27/07/15 01:01 AM
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Instead of "significantly less", how about more? Well, I didn't want to even hint that the truth might be reversed. When I read the AVfM article (not the original published article, which would be very interesting in its own right) it seems to me that the differences are insignificant (neither higher nor lower), which suggests that there is no "Women are wonderful" effect in helping women to win races. It would be interesting to go back to the original article and see if they publish confidence …
/r/MensRights26/07/15 09:21 AM
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You really need to know the denominator. The real question is, in any random election, does a woman win with probability significantly less than f/(f+m), where f = the number of female candidates and m = the number of male candidates (usually 0.5 except for primaries)? Even when m and f vary over individual elections (e.g. primaries) this is a very easy analysis to conduct, once an appropriate data set has been assembled.
/r/MensRights26/07/15 04:39 AM
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Gay guy here, longstanding interest in MRM. Lots of other good comments on this thread, but I'll reinforce the main point: the "ickiness" factor that people perceive with respect to gay men stems from fear of men and male sexuality. Another thing not mentioned: even though you may date men, you will still probably interact with women in other spheres of life. Sexual dynamics represent a fundamental note in all human relationships, and they will affect your professional and family life as well as…
/r/MensRights25/07/15 12:09 AM
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Try googling "OKCupid" with other relevant search terms. E.g.: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/ http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/
/r/MensRights24/07/15 07:41 PM
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Demonstration Ancestry Authorization Demo You must have a genotyped 23andme account to access the demo. It checks to see if your ancestral makeup is primarily composed of European (minus Ashkenazi) genetic markers to determine whether or not access is permitted. This was tailor-made for white supremicist groups. Who else is interested in verifying non-Jewish European status?
/r/MensRights23/07/15 01:15 PM
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Some of that may come into play, but I believe the racial pay gap is real (i.e. racial correlations are causal, not an artifact of confounding by individual preference). It isn't necessarily because of conscious racism, but rather (probably) in large part driven by differences in how people are mentored. Anybody who reaches a high enough level knows that they can't get much further without good mentors and strong advocates. But mentoring relationships can't be dictated, and the most productive o…
/r/MensRights22/07/15 07:02 AM
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Search committees are often given specific dictates on acceptable gender ratios for the pool of individuals invited to interview. Source: I have served on such committees.
/r/MensRights22/07/15 06:51 AM
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This ended up in my FB feed a few minutes ago. My first observation was how (relatively) slim the groom is. Because even though fat women are big and beautiful, fat men are just losers.
/r/MensRights22/07/15 06:43 AM
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On the other hand, Roissy and friends are anything but friends to the MHRM. If I had a nickel for every time I heard someone in his comments call MRAs “faggots” “betas” and “manginas” I would have my own Gulfstream. Not to mention the unabashed and nauseating racism on display by both Roissy and his readership. Even though he can often be insightful about the first-order male/female sexual dynamics, and also often quite witty in his skewering of SJW hypocrites, I stopped reading him because I co…
/r/MensRights22/07/15 06:37 AM
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Yeah, I know, I have one of those degrees too. Indeed, finding open questions is harder than answering it. Still ... bathroom sex??
/r/MensRights22/07/15 06:11 AM
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I know of a guy who got a PhD in a semi-respectable field (I think it was anthropology) by studying gay bathroom sex using an "observer-participant" methodology.
/r/MensRights22/07/15 02:54 AM
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By "flat out told" I mean via power-talk, which is always clear but with plausible deniability. Plus this was a decade ago.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/14 04:30 AM
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Yelling = domestic violence. And now: domestic violence = torture. Don't forget that there is a push in some feminist quarters to make "emotional abuse" = domestic violence, and that "emotional abuse" can be something like telling a woman you've lost sexual interest because of her weight. So now we essentially have telling a woman she's fat = torture. Think I'm being hyperbolic and hysterical? See how far the "sexual assault" idea has gone in the last 20 years.
/r/MensRights11/11/14 02:43 PM
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Yup. Once knew a gay guy who (by some miracle) was on the board of a very large company. He was flat out told that he would never be CEO because gay, even though in every other way he was an ideal candidate. He wasn't butt-hurt about it though, he understood how things worked.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 02:25 PM
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I'm going to SJW hell for this, but yes they do piss me off. There's one in particular that haunts my partner's work world, and he uses those exact words ("I want to smack the shit out of him.") But I don't know why.... Maybe because they seem to be aspiring to all the worst qualities and stereotypes of women.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 02:46 AM
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This was a requested AMA which I was reluctant to do. Sorry it offends your sensibilities, but you're free to downvote and move on.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 12:06 AM
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Fair enough. But nonverbal signals are harder to fake, such that it will be difficult to "act" alpha unless you already are. So I think we kind of agree although we are looking at the problem from two different angles.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 06:24 PM
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OK. Thanks for clarification.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 05:07 PM
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I do. Are you suggesting as a mod that this post was inappropriate? Because it was requested here on TRP. I even waited to see whether people were in favor or against it before proceeding.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 05:06 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. "Politeness" can go either way though. It can either come off as very beta (speak only when spoken to) or it can come off as extremely alpha (speak softly and carry a big stick), it's all in the delivery. As with most things, the nonverbals count way more than the verbals.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 04:51 PM
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Well, I guess someone thought I'd have unique insights. Can't say I do or don't. For the most part, I think the most useful answers I've given (that can't be found on the RP sidebar) are to guys who are asking why they are hit on by gay guys and not women.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 04:28 PM
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-What do you think causes homosexuality? Probably a very complex mix of nature and nurture. In-utero environment sets up neural patterns which are in-between the norm for males and females. Then various incentives and experiences in the childhood and adolescent environment shape sexual orientation in the same-sex direction. What do you think about transgenderism? I'm going to hell for this, but I find it strange, confusing, and largely negative. I'm prepared to accept that there are a handful of…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 04:25 PM
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Meh, it's inflammatory but not entirely false. Gay male culture is degenerate. So is modern consumer culture more generally (though in entirely different ways with different negative effects). One of the problems people have is distinguishing bad cultures from bad people. It's not that gay men as individuals are (necessarily) degenerate, but if you get sucked into a negative culture then you are going to behave in degenerate ways. Given enough time, you will actually become degenerate yourself. …
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 04:17 PM
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Well, I was asked. I'd have linked to the request in my OP, but the AutoModerator rejects direct links to reddit. You can scroll down my post history if you want to find the thread where I was asked, and in doing so you'll note that I haven't flamed anybody. It's pretty clear you haven't read anything I've written or else you would have known that your last line was entirely unnecessary. Which is to say, it reveals more about yourself than it says about me.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:57 PM
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I don't think gay guys have any special powers that can't be had from reading the RP sidebar material and lurking on r/2XC. Sorry, no special insights. If gay guys have any special power, it's not being hypnotized by the vagina, which makes it easier to see women as regular people (some good, some bad) rather than magical angelic creatures or demons from hell. So if you can somehow get yourself to disregard pussy, then you'll be on your way to acquiring those powers as well. But you knew that al…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:52 PM
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Yeah, I understand the argument, it's just that the argument attracts people in the "supremacy" camp. As I mentioned, I respect his writing enough to read it on a regular basis (whenever it comes available) and I often agree with him. The ethnocentrism thing is tricky because while I agree with a need for Europe and its diaspora to protect its cultural heritage, "centrism" has a tendency to become "supremacy" when the extremists move in.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:48 PM
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For the most part I think (in this culture anyway) men are less aware of their bodies, unless they are athletes. Again, this is a stochastic issue, it may vary from individual to individual.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:46 PM
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Do you mean open relationships or actual cheating (in the sense of having sex outside the relationship without the partner's approval)? The latter is less common among gay men who are over, say, 30, mostly because open relationships are much more acceptable so it's easy to negotiate. The rate-limiting factor in sex is women, so when you take that out of the equation it's possible to have a very large number of sex partners, if that's what you want. My partner and I have a monogamous relationship…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:42 PM
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There is a long history of separation between lesbian and gay male cultures. We work together on some political issues, but tend not to socialize together. I have a few lesbian friends, mostly from childhood or adolescence, but other than the one friend from childhood (who would be a friend whether I was gay or not), lesbians are not part of my primary social circle. Re: feminism, for political reasons gay men support it. But for the most part it is irrelevant to us. A great many more of us than…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:38 PM
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Yeah. I'm using very loose terms for different cognitive styles that are associated in a stochastic sense with men or with women. However, there is some physical basis: in terms of gray/white matter, gay men fall in between straight men and straight women, and it's been shown that gay men tend to have cognitive styles that are in between those of straight men and straight women. Of course this is all stochastic, and to any one given person it may or may not apply.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:34 PM
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whoosh!
/r/MensRights10/11/14 03:31 PM
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I'd rather not be specific, mostly because of doxxing. I have some SJW enemies who would love to expose me as a horrible misogynist. Let's just say medical research.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:30 PM
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Yeah, I know a gay guy who is 5'3" and badass (very RP demeanor). It helps that he's got a handsome face and (I happen to know) a big dick. He has never had a problem getting laid. Ever. He'd probably have much more of a problem if he were straight.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:28 PM
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I was asked to do an AMA, I said I would if others chimed in with the request, they did, so I am. I think what may be interesting to the guys who've asked is the female/male brain thing, that maybe I have special insights in being able to "observe" both at the same time. Not sure about that myself, but I'm happy to provide insights if it helps.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:25 PM
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No. We're both too old. Well, I'm on the cusp, but he's really too old. If I were going to do it I'd probably choose surrogacy. Adoption is a wonderful form of altruism, and I know several gay couples who have done it, but you're taking on the burdens of someone else's terrible pregnancy and neonate decisions, and it definitely shows. I know myself well enough to know that I don't have the inner resources to deal with the kinds of problems that can come up with high probability. In either case (…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:19 PM
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I had more woman friends when I was younger. Now the only ones I have are in married couples (and I'm friends with the couple, not just the woman). But if I remember from my past, it's pretty much anything you see on r/2XC. Isn't the internet great?!?
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:13 PM
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My life's fine, thanks for asking.
/r/MensRights10/11/14 03:09 PM
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Hard to describe. Too focused, not relaxed. Not a problem for gay guys, but I think it's a problem for women.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 06:39 AM
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bi means bye Yeah, that's a real thing. It's a fear of betrayal. The thinking is that as a bi guy you're just slumming and when you're ready to settle down and conform to society's norms, you'll be the one saying "bye". These days though, I wonder whether the bi guys will end up running away from pussy screaming, just because the current climate makes it so difficult.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 06:19 AM
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If you're a reasonably handsome and fit man who is terminally beta, doesn't want kids, and is greater than 2 on the Kinsey scale, you're probably better off justing self-identifying as gay. It's easier to get laid and LTRs are easier. The transgendered thing I don't understand. It's none of my business (people can call themselves whatever sex they want I guess) but as a conservative middle-aged gay guy I just find it kind of confusing and weird.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 06:14 AM
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I agree with this (more or less). Gay men aren't looking for alphas, just handsome guys who are reasonably fit. Women, well, it's complicated as we all know.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 06:08 AM
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I can find beta guys really appealing as long as they are physically well put together. If you're less conventionally attractive physically, then you better have some game. I'm not really sure if I'm in a beta role or not right now. As I mentioned in another response, with my partner I'm slightly more "female" inside the home (except for financial matters), which may or may not give me more power in the relationship. I guess I'm the "prettier" one (being younger) but my partner also doesn't take…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 05:57 AM
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Can't say then. But if a lot of gay guys are hitting on you, your problem isn't physical. Men are visual, and they wouldn't look at you twice if you were disadvantaged in your looks. Is there any way that you're throwing off a gay vibe to women? Or, worse, that ever-so-wonderful "creepy" vibe? I.e., too intense? I used to have a straight buddy whose problem was exactly that, he was very good looking but too "intense" and it bugged women. Eventually he got a girlfriend (and then became a raging a…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 05:50 AM
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You can try, but people need to figure things out on their own time. Kind of like figuring out RP on your own time.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 05:45 AM
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I was asked in another RP thread if I would do this. I replied that I would if others were interested. People said they were, so I am.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 05:43 AM
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Good question. What was the context? Depending on the social situation they may have felt it wasn't the place to display IOIs. Honestly, I can't predict how that would go, because down deep women despise gay men (I'm talking in generalities here), so the preselection may not really "count" in their eyes. However, I would take getting hit on by gay guys as a positive, because it is proof that you are at least visually appealing. This means that any problems you have meeting women are more easily …
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:26 AM
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I dunno. Sexual intimidation? Either that or they are feminist pussies who have been brainwashed to hate masculinity. I get the former, not the latter.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 03:20 AM
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Really interesting question. In my generation, and earlier generations, the social penalty for being an out gay man was much higher than it is today, so back when I was coming out, I think you really had to be pretty close to 6 on the Kinsey scale before you identified as gay. However, I think our social system may have reached a bifurcation point where the hassle and risk associated with dating women and having LTRs with them are simply not worth it if you are anywhere higher than 2 or 3 on the…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 01:57 AM
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I largely agree with Jack Donovan's position on homosexuality vs. androphilia vs. "gay", and have been tempted to communicate with him, but he has subtle white-supremist views that turn me off. (He might characterize his views as more subtle than white-supremacy, and while I understand the subtleties, the practical effect, in my view, is negative). There are others who have similar views without being as vocal or conscious about them, for example Chuck Palahniuk, author of Fight Club. I think a …
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 01:46 AM
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Depends on the guy. Partnered gay guy and they all go to the theater together: non-issue. Be glad she's found someone else to enjoy hobbies you hate. Partnered gay guy and they all go shopping together: see above, probably a non-issue but beware of unrealistic expectations around $$. Single gay guy and they go to the theater together: could go either way. Is he a flamer? Non-issue, he's her male girlfriend. RP body-builder? Red flag, she's imagining him while she's fucking you. Single gay guy an…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 12:56 AM
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In answer to your other questions (which I had forgotten in my last reply): I don't know much about lesbian Rumpsringa, but the lesbians I know would be very hurt by that. One close friend saw her marriage fall apart because her partner wanted to have sex with other women. Men would be even worse I think. Most gay men I know would be hurt by their partner's "hopping the fence" with women. I certainly would. I recently told my partner I had some intellectual curiosity about pussy, and he was kind…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 12:29 AM
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As a RP gay man, do you think this dynamic is necessary for same sex couples to be functional or are there truly egalitarian same sex couples who are simply not noticed because they aren't as overt as the more flamboyant butch/bitch dynamic? I believe the male/female dichotomy is a very fundamental metaphysical principle that underlies all human relationships. So, yes, in any given sphere within a relationship there will be someone acting in the male role and someone acting in the female role. I…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 12:22 AM
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It's a vibe more than anything, but the false positive rate of gaydar is much higher than is often assumed. One reliable signal is a certain gaze that signals someone checking you out. If you're receiving it from another guy, then he's gay (or bi, even if he isn't conscious of it himself). I want to point out though that just because you are the object of a gay guys's lustful gaze doesn't mean that you're setting off his gaydar, just that he thinks you're hawt. Aside from that, gay men are a lit…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 12:13 AM
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5'10" isn't so short that you're beneath the SMV radar for women. Thin? I don't like to walk "slowly" and "chill", unless I'm relaxing. It would take me too long to get from point A to B and I'm impatient. The body language of rushing around can be perceived as beta, since it conveys a sense of being beholden to someone else (I do it too when I'm in a hurry, which is pretty often, but I am aware of the signal it conveys.) Maybe practice "amused mastery" and slow/relax your vibe down a little bit…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 12:06 AM
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In what ways have the RP theories manifested itself in you. i.e. hypergamy, af/bb, etc. When I was younger I didn't realize that it is impossible to "have it all" in a partner, so there was a tendency to hypergamously try to trade up in probably all the wrong ways, leading to the familiar CC. Since I didn't understand what masculinity was (not having any strong male role model) it was hard to evaluate in another man. In other ways, despite being attractive, I was also kind of beta and lacked con…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 11:54 PM
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That's a really difficult one. Over my RP education I've learned how hard straight guys really have it, in this society anyway. I think the answer is just almost-cliche RP advice: confidence is everything. Also, just about everything else here on TRP (that isn't just woman-bashing, which I refuse to do). Edit: I'll also add something that all people would be better off knowing. All human relationships are transactional, or at least can be modeled as transactions. This doesn't detract from their …
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 11:48 PM
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You're probably visually appealing (maybe even exceptionally so) but not projecting a "leader" vibe. Are you short? Height is a non-issue for many if not most gay men, but a deal-breaker for most women.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 11:45 PM
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Yes indeed it is a tightrope. At the present moment in history, this discussion has no pragmatic application in the social/political/legal sphere. As you say, it may even be counterproductive to have it because it is inflammatory to people who, due to their own psychological defenses, are incapable of the required discernment. However, it does have a great deal of significance on the personal level, because I think the underlying principles are important in shaping our personal ethics and morals…
/r/MensRights09/11/14 11:04 PM
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To make it more concrete I suppose: I am in favor of gay "civil unions" that have all the same rights and responsibilities that heterosexual marriages have, but without the "marriage" label, which I think should be reserved for heterosexual couples who intend to have children. Does this help clarify my position? Realistically, this is legally unworkable, but I hope it illustrates my position. In general, our society has lost sight of the "future" in the sense of preparing younger generations to …
/r/MensRights09/11/14 10:36 PM
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No, not at the present moment. In fact, my partner and I will probably get married, mostly because it seems selfish to deny my partner certain legal protections (e.g. the right to inherit our house without estate taxes) merely because I hold certain abstract principles that question gay marriage. But I do question its philosophical basis, and seek discussion with others on the deeper points. Unfortunately, most of the people who show up as commenters on blogs such as Dalrock display a very ugly …
/r/MensRights09/11/14 10:10 PM
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Believing as I do in the individual's sovereign right to determine his or her own path in life, I also lean towards the middle ground. However, I worry about the reality that people (especially young people) are ignorant to the real consequences of their actions, which often manifest much later, or only on a collective level as an emergent property of many individuals making the same bad decisions. Traditional sexual mores may be a way of protecting younger generations from the consequences of f…
/r/MensRights09/11/14 09:39 PM
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I would be, if enough other RP subscribers endorsed the idea. I try to avoid being the attention-seeking guy who screams "LOOK AT ME I'M A GAY GUY IN TRP".
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 08:19 PM
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Thanks. It's interesting to observe from inside after having studied MR/TRP for several years. I tend to keep the female-brain at home and expose it only to my partner (who has his own cognitive dichotomy, but it's distributed very differently because his work is less masculinely oriented than my STEM job). My partner has mentioned that I become noticeably colder to him when I'm in work-mode, so much so that from the way I answer the phone he can tell how deeply engaged I am in my work (or debat…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 08:15 PM
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The idea is not monolithic, but it is advanced by the TRP luminaries who say that women are "the most responsible teenager in the house". I understand what they're saying about relative accountability within the family structure and larger society, but its corrupt interpretation becomes "women are less intelligent than men". I'm not trying to create a divisive argument here, just point out that this post is a perfect example of the fundamental issue that TRP studies: our gendered social roles (d…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 07:51 PM
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This post is perfect. I do not agree with the TRP convention that women are constitutionally less intelligent than men. I've met too many examples in my life of competent, intelligent women. But you can't occupy male social positions without sacrificing the benefits that you would accrue by capitalizing on your femininity. This sums it all up: Congratulations, you are now equal. You can either be: (1) Strong, independent, respected and forever unloved or (2) Protected, provided-for, and subservi…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 07:27 PM
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Dunno, that would be an interesting thing to formally study. I was raised by a feminist single mother. Took me a long time to reverse the brainwashing, but these days I am completely unmoved by feminism. I don't hate women at all, there are numerous women I think are great people. What I hate is the culture of female unaccountability and the utter lack of empathy for the lives of men.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 07:15 PM
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"Sexual assault" <- Poor minority guy says "hi" to you.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 07:11 PM
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Amen, brother. Gay guy here who used to think traditional religion and its restrictive morality (which is all about "sex with somebody you trust" because of community approval of the relationship) was authoritarian bs. But now that I see what the world has become, I have to grudgingly admit that traditional religion results in better social outcomes. It's almost as if a certain set of social mores is selected for in an evolutionary sense.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 07:05 PM
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I guess burqas aren't such a bad idea after all?
/r/MensRights09/11/14 05:25 PM
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"Because we're taught don't leave your drink alone instead of don't drug someone" How much of a moron do you have to be to believe that men are being given tacit approval to spike women's drinks with roofies? I know, how about teaching women not to drink when alone in a venue with strangers? You know, taking the same precautions a man would be expected to take. Oh, yeah, I forgot, because women can't be held accountable for anything at all.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 02:09 AM
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No worries. The field is changing very rapidly and the last 5 years have been an incredible period of scientific learning. I find the subject is endlessly fascinating. Did you read the wiki link on imprinting? It's wild how complicated biological systems are!
/r/MensRights09/11/14 02:01 AM
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I'm saying that genetics is way more complicated than just genetic sequences and chromosomes, and that the mechanisms by which genes are expressed still evade complete understanding. This is particularly true of the contributions male and female gametes make to their offspring. I'm familar with the stupid arguments feminists make about the male genome being "incomplete", and I understand that you counter it by pointing out the obvious fact that the full human genome includes the Y chromosome, wh…
/r/MensRights09/11/14 01:53 AM
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Errr.. sorry, I was mixing you up with the guy who was piloting a survey here. Carry On!
/r/MensRights09/11/14 01:41 AM
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I thought you were just piloting your survey in that thread? I would think that you wouldn't want to post any results until you've cleaned up the instrument and gathered independent data using a more representative sampling frame.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 01:07 AM
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I hate it when people who know nothing about genetics try to make stupid arguments based on high school biology. First of all, in females one of the X alleles is almost always epigenetically silenced, otherwise there would be a severe dosing problem. The other issue is imprinting, mechanisms for which we still know very little. I wish feminists and MRAs (among whose ranks I count myself) would take arguments about social policy outside of molecular biology.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 12:55 AM
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You think anybody who writes policy from that perspective is going to come out and say it? If you were seriously asking this question from a desire to be informed, you would have read enough of the sidebar material to know that feminist organizations oppose any policy or law that explicitly benefits men. In particular, feminists routinely advocate for the most shocking departures from due process (for men only of course). You would also be aware of the recent Washington Post opinion piece where …
/r/MensRights09/11/14 12:25 AM
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Maybe they want the ability to make dick jokes without having their pictures splashed across twitter for it. This. As soon as women are allowed into the male sandbox, they immediately set about to "reform" it. I feel bad for the victims of "Donglegate", but they took one for the team: now every man who's paying attention knows what happens when women are granted entry into male spaces.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 11:03 PM
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I typically think poorly of Schadenfreude, but I make an exception in the case of Lena Dunham. Pass the popcorn!
/r/MensRights08/11/14 09:03 PM
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Feminists don't think of men as human beings, so they weren't really being hypocritical. That's how it is in general with hate movements and more broadly conservative groups to a lesser extent see it as fine to have one set of rules and moral standards for people they like, and another for people they don't like. You can actually work out the assumed hierarchy-of-being in any social group by observing how violence is interpreted. Violence perpetrated by "higher" beings against "lower" beings is …
/r/MensRights08/11/14 06:28 PM
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Completely anecdotal, but all of the male supervisors I've had have been reasonable people. On the other hand, I've had only one female supervisor who I thought was a good manager, and I note that her work/management style was very masculine (despite actually being very attractive and feminine looking). Please note that I came into the workforce fully brainwashed by feminism. It's only after working for 20+ years that I have learned that feminine ways of thinking/interaction are horrible for man…
/r/MensRights08/11/14 06:20 PM
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Also, one well-calculated snarky takedown can sometimes be more effective at highlighting the absurdity of a position than any rational argument. The problem is that stupid people don't respond well to rational arguments. The only way to effectively counter some types of stupidity is mockery.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 03:27 AM
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Having just visited an attorney today with several legal documents needing to be notarized, the mental image is especially painful.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 11:05 PM
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What could possibly go wrong?
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 10:52 PM
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Ah yes, another stunning example of how much fat apologists feminists love gay men. If you don't love muh cuuurvy currves then you must not be a real man! And you wonder why we gay guys are "misogynists"?
/r/MensRights07/11/14 10:49 PM
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Why not just hang up the towel and join the 21st century? Ironically, the Nazis were damn well certain they were riding the "progressive" wave of history. Tomorrow belongs to me indeed. Edit: another irony is that the clip to which I linked is from Cabaret, which is about a selfish and irresponsible young woman, a character who serves as a metaphor for the weaknesses of the Weimar Republic that allowed the Nazis to rise to power. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
/r/MensRights07/11/14 10:37 PM
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If "misogyny" is speaking up for men's rights and against the abuses of third-wave feminism, then count me in. I proudly accept the label. Against feminism you say? Yes: the fundamental belief of feminism (as it actually manifests in the real world, not in your make-believe world of propaganda), the feminism from which all advocacy and policy flows, is the following: no woman should ever have to be accountable for anything she does. Ever. I realize the OP is a troll post, and I waste my time. Bu…
/r/MensRights07/11/14 10:32 PM
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Nice job. Good luck getting it acknowledged.
/r/MensRights07/11/14 09:00 PM
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The fundamental belief of feminism (as it actually manifests in the real world, not in propaganda), from which all advocacy and policy flows, is that no woman should ever have to be accountable for anything she does. Ever.
/r/MensRights07/11/14 04:38 PM
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Actually, this is a great example of a phenomenon we should do more to expose. The OP is a direct response and rebuttal to the Dunham apologists who assure us that a seven-year-old spreading the vaginal lips of a one-year-old is harmless. It directly and unequivocally counters by providing a recent example (there are other older ones) of a boy who was punished for a behavior that was substantially less intrusive. So then the feminist simply ignores the rebuttal and mocks the messenger. Feminists…
/r/MensRights07/11/14 03:22 PM
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Feminist: No woman would lie about rape. Reasonable person: Actually, some women do lie about rape. Here's some evidence. Here's some more. Here's even more. Feminist: They don't count, those women were mentally ill. ... [much later] Feminist: Those poor mentally ill women! We need to support them, they've been traumatized enough already!
/r/MensRights07/11/14 03:12 PM
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It's been a long time since I've thought about words like fish and tuna. Looking back now with an MR sensibility, it might be seen as a way of devaluing the very thing that keeps straight men in thrall. In reality, though, I still think it's primarly an unconscious pyschological defense against the painful reality that gay men are marginalized from normal heterosexual interaction (by "normal" I mean "typical" not "non-pathological"), a major feature of which is worship of the vagina. What I have…
/r/MensRights07/11/14 03:01 PM
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I think race traitor is a bad term, but I understand its use here in TRP as meaning something more like self-loathing slut. The way I am reading the use of the term is that it seems to apply to women who think so little of the men of their own race that they give their best years to members of other races, only to return to their own race when it comes time to find somebody who will "take care of them". I loathe the term race traitor because it harkens to neo-Nazis, the KKK, and similar ilk who,…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 05:42 AM
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I've been saying this as an MRA for about 3 years: feminists are no friends to gay men. They will throw us under the bus any time it's convenient. Feminists love the idea of a beta wimp who they can cry to when they're having man problems, who will lift heavy things for them, and who they can generally control, kind of like a Ken doll who goes shopping with them. But the reality of the gay male psyche is alien to them and an anathema. Young gay guys get sucked into this. By the time we reach mid…
/r/MensRights06/11/14 05:35 AM
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In general, the concept of a male-only (or even male-friendly) space is not supported by society. In general, any space that is conceived of as having a male culture will eventually be infiltrated first by women who want to be "included" (because equality) and then later by women who want to change the culture entirely to reflect a female cognitive slant.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 12:56 AM
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Red Pill dismisses the notion that the world is overly racist or sexist and instead mandates that each man improve himself. I disagree: racism is real. You need only look to some well-known TRP bloggers to see clear examples of stark racism. However, if you're brown (i.e. not of northern European decent), there's no use giving into playing the victim. And it's a big mistake to expect the state to help you. As you say, the state will only use you to manipulate policy. Thus, the self-improvement p…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 02:42 AM
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Relevant: South Park Cissy episode.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 10:01 PM
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You'll wish you had created categories later when you analyze the data.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 06:37 PM
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You're welcome. RE: Christian, my recommendation would be to break it up into these categories: Roman Catholic; Anglican/Episcopalian/Lutheran; Baptist/Other Protestant; LDS; and Other. These are all culturally distinct, and are somewhat driven by lineage (i.e. when/where the group branched off). "Other" I guess is a catch-all for Eastern Orthodox or other groups that are relatively small in the English-speaking world.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 06:26 PM
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Here is my feedback: Q1. Really should be a likert scale with 5 items (or 10 like Q5). Q3. Should include "Independent". Q5. Needs a legend (1-10 left to right or right to left?) Q6. "Christian" is too general, given all of the various Eastern/Neo-pagan options. Q8. Wording is awkward.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 04:47 PM
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Only because it's Lena Dunham, the voice of a generation.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 04:40 PM
2

Most TRP readers are aware both of what feminism claims to represent and what feminism actually represents as judged by its most socially and politically influential advocates. For example, you will sometimes hear feminists claim that feminism benefits men, and that many men's rights issues would be resolved by implementing more feminist policy. However, when you look at the issues MRAs care most about, you will find that women's organizations that self-report as "feminist" routinely oppose any …
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 04:32 PM
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It's standard pyschometric practice to pilot a survey instrument before actually deploying it. It would actually be a problem if he didn't do this.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 04:06 PM
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Don't blame the women, blame the white knights that enable this by writing these requirements into policy.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 09:35 PM
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Welcome to the hell that feminism has created.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 09:33 PM
1

Well, I hesitate because I agree with the criticisms already posted particlarly those detailed by eletheros. But I understand this is a data gathering exercise to counter (or support) claims about the political leanings of MRAs. So, for that purpose: Economic Left/Right: -3.12, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.69.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 08:54 PM
1

I'm not suggesting anybody be formally punished, but in terms of public opinion I think Dunham should be called out for this. Mostly because she would not hesitate to judge a 7-year-old boy who had done the same thing. This has more to do with what an awful person Dunham is (for reasons quite independent of her weird confession) than with punishing 7-year-olds who engage in socially inappropriate behavior.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 05:58 PM
1

The Likert scale of the test items has four responses (i.e. an even number), which is sub-optimal in my view. But, no surprise in my result: libertarian left quadrant but very close to center. My belief is that life in a civilized society entails a great many tradeoffs, but a better society is one that errs (slightly) in the direction of greater trust in individual choices.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 05:44 PM
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Lena "voice of her generation" Dunham apparently reveals the truth about 20-something-year-old North American women: they're rude, selfish, entitled, ugly, and stupid.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 05:35 PM
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Justice of course, I do not favor unwarranted state intrusion into any sphere of life. But let's be realistic about how most people view things.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 05:31 PM
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Do you think a 7-year-old boy would be "forgiven" or would his ass be hauled off to a psychologist to be pathologized and drugged?
/r/MensRights02/11/14 05:18 PM
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I've never paid much attention to Dunham, as my initial impressions of her were that she was irredeemably unattractive, dull, and shrill. However, the more I learn about her, the less I want to know.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 02:49 AM
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I refuse to give Futrelle any clicks ... but if there were ever a manbooby who was enraged by his rejection, it would be him.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 04:22 PM
3

Can confirm, from the inside of various committees that set policy on this kind of thing. sigh...
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 07:30 AM
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men lean on ... the workplace to get to know women... But that's sexual harassment!
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 07:26 AM
3

In other news, poor Africans are still dying, and civilians in the middle east are still getting blown up.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 07:24 AM
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I came here to take advantage of free speech so I could defend censorship.
/r/MensRights31/10/14 07:06 AM
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But then there are articles like this, which demonstrate consistent neurological correlates with self-reported "love". There is some truth to what you say, but I would also say that all long-term LTRs share some of the same brain patterns.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 12:33 PM
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One ban at a time, one policy brief at a time ... feminists will bury their own cause by alienating all reasonable people.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 02:45 AM
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SJWs see it and laugh because they genuinely think this how privileged white men get treated on the streets of NYC. You'd have to be seriously deluded to think that. He's very attractive, so I'd be willing to accept that this particular guy would get a few seriously sexual glances from both women and men ("cruised" in the gay lingo) but that's about it.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 02:42 AM
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Thanks. Interesting study. Neuroscience is not my area of expertise so it was kind of a tough read for me for simply skimming the article (though I may return to it later to read it more carefully). The article definitely demonstrates successfully that different brain patterns correspond to different experiences of "love". However, the study was cross-sectional, so I don't think it says anything about innate capacity. You'd need to conduct a genome-wide association-study to start get at that iss…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 12:53 AM
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Thanks, yes, I agree. It isn't that women are "bad". It's just that our culture and legal structure creates incentives for women to behave badly. The consequence is that women who are naturally inclined to be good/compassionate/reasonable/respectful may be just a little bit more selfish than they otherwise would be (but still potentially marriageable under the right set of circumstances). However, women inclined towards bad behavior will be really bad and rewarded for it. Without a great deal of…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 12:29 AM
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I want to say that you're wrong, because I know a number of happy couples who are around my age (47) or older. But given what I am reading these days, I'm afraid you're right: most 20-something-year-olds will not get to experience this, because the sense of entitlement (especially among young women) is just too strong. That makes me a little sad.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 11:42 PM
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Citation? Not trying to be a dick, I'm interested in reading the study. One question I would have about this is the extent to which such a study could be prospective, given the lengths of time involved in proving an "enduring" LTR and the relative novelty of fMRI technology. If retrospective, and especially if it's a case/control study, I would worry about the potential for confounding. I don't dispute the finding that enduring LTRs are associated with certain activated brain regions, rather I w…
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 10:23 PM
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The amazing thing to me is how much attention this issue is getting. In an age of underfunding of public health infrastructure for dealing with things like, oh, say, Ebola; in an age of escalating lethal violence among adolescents; in an era of automation where the labor market is becoming more and more difficult to enter in a meaningful way ... ... the media is worried about some rich white skank getting catcalls after walking around in poor neighborhood for ten hours.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 08:58 PM
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Would it then be paranoid of me? A little bit. I don't think it's a conspiracy. It's just selfish people trying to maximize their own gain. Over time, and aggregating individual acts over a large number of people, this leads to perverse incentives, which escalate the trends, and eventually you get the fucked up system we're in.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 06:51 PM
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Laws and culture reinforce each other. Laws and public policy create an environent where every move a man makes is risky. This eats away at the captain/first mate model. Rinse, repeat. The larger point: it's not the universe itself that is the black iron prison. It's merely Western culture in the 21st Century. Edit: clarifying for lurkers who might object to the "captain / first mate" model. In every LTR there is a leader and a follower. In some cases the leadership role alternates over the long…
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 04:42 PM
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OK, at the risk of getting downvoted to hell, I would like to counter this a bit and hopefully shine a ray of light to cut through the darkness. Yes, every adult know that the Disney fantasy of Eros-tinged happily-ever-after BS is an utterly empty illusion. But that doesn't invalidate the concept of Agape-infused relationship based on hard work and mutual respect. I can point to a number of successful long term relationships (30+ years in some cases) where both partners are reasonably content. T…
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 04:30 PM
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No, but where women aren't typically land-whales (the South) they are overly-entitled cunts (NYC). I'm speaking in broad generalities here: cases presented on TRP are generally biased towards the worse examples of human behavior, and there are lovely women and excellent men everywhere. But North American culture is profoundly entitled, and the entitltement does incentivize women to be either fat or mean (or both).
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 04:19 PM
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Actually, what shocked me about this piece was that she is almost as bad as the giant caricature that she has created from the criticism she completely ignores.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 04:15 PM
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Pretty much the logical conclusion of all of this "teach men not to rape" bs. And if you suggest that a woman should not walk through Compton wearing just bra and panties? You are "nibbling away at the edges of her freedom to explore exciting opportunities".
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 04:10 PM
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OP was worse than I expected. This woman is raging bitch.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 06:17 AM
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The irony is that in the shit-show that passes for modern heterosexual relationships, ones best protection is being gay. In my 20s and 30s I was often wistful about being "left out" of society. Then I learned about the kind of horrors many straight men go through at the hands of women, who are incentivized in this society to behave as badly as their imagination will allow them. Now I am truly grateful to have avoided all of that. My one regret is lack of children -- but apparently if you're a ma…
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 03:16 PM
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This is the lie staring right in the face of gender & sexuality departments.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 03:11 PM
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Fear of doxxing prevents me from going into specifics. In any case, I would not counsel a younger man to follow my career path (I'm 47), since by the time you acquired the necessary training and experience the market would probably be very different. However: if you want career advice, I would recommend learning a trade that will always be needed and can't be offshored. Plumbing is a good example. This is what I really wish I had done. Edit: outsourced -> offshored. My brain doesn't always funct…
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 02:56 PM
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Perhaps. But it's one thing to learn a skill from a YouTube video, it's quite another for a real person to apprentice you. There are some things that are difficult to learn without having someone show you the right subtle physical technique.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 06:40 AM
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Yeah, this is a real problem I've been personally aware of for a long time. Was raised by a feminst single mother, no father figure to mentor me in how to fix or build things. Fortunately for me, being a gay guy, I've had the benefit of dating guys who had fathers who could show them stuff (and so they could teach me). My partner's dad is very RP, taught him how to fix and build things, so he's pretty handy and we've been working on our house together. Unfortunately, neither my partner nor I wil…
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 06:38 AM
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Who cares what she thinks? Being a man is doing what makes you happy, not your Facebook "friends". I have a 6-year-old car that is nothing stylish but gets decent gas mileage and is great for my dogs, and most importantly, it's paid for. I own my non-mansion-sized house outright (in a decent neighborhood in a tight coastal US housing market). I don't necessarily love my job, which some might perceive as somewhat unsexy, but it pays well while having flexible hours and it beats 95% of other jobs …
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 03:38 AM
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The gay part is likely biological and has nothing to do with feminism (other than the fact that feminists pay lip service -- and only lip service -- to the rights of gay men). The other stuff ... well..
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 12:33 AM
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This is just too good to be true. It must be a troll. There must be some hamster version of Poe's Law.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/14 11:37 PM
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I really want you to be a gentle sensitive touchy-feely squishy vulnerable new-age guy. It's just that when you are, you're such a pussy and I can't respect you.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 09:46 PM
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Otherwise the censorship here will only get worse. It will indeed. Maybe because I have a fatalist bent, I accept that all good things have a finite life-span, and corruption is inevitable. I applaud you for raising the issue initially, but now that it's out in the open, that Richard's poor character has been exposed for all to see, and the blatant hypocrisy of the Reddit admins has (once again) been documented, there is no more value in beating this horse to death. Those that can see, will. Tho…
/r/MensRights27/10/14 09:32 PM
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I mean this in the kindest possible way, but I think you have been banned for overzealousness. In no way do I agree with the admins on this one, and I realize that similar (or worse behavior including doxxing) by SJWs is completely tolerated if not actively encouraged. But you can't win this one. Just let it go. Richard demonstrates his immaturity, power-obsession and lack of ethics all by himself without your fanning the flames. Let it be a lesson to you about social dynamics and orthodoxy.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 09:16 PM
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He shows his true colors on the undelete thread. Playing the victim. I'd have more respect for him if he simply owned up to it and sad, "yes as a matter of policy we delete anything that detracts from feminism".
/r/MensRights27/10/14 03:27 AM
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You know they know they've lost the argument when they resort to insults such as this (not that there is anything wrong with fellatio). Says a lot about him.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 03:13 AM
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Really, people like that are the gift that keeps on giving. One of the major factors in convincing me that the MRM and RP are largely correct was the extent to which its critics and enemies will go to censor its advocates and proponents. Truth survives in light. Lies whither away.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/14 10:09 PM
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You give academics too much credit.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 11:55 PM
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I wish I could upvote this 1000 times.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 06:49 PM
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It also monetizes a large number of services that would have otherwise remained within the informal "household" economy. Which is to say, it invites the state to tax and regulate these services.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 03:44 PM
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Good luck reporting it. It's all over my FB also. Of course I can't say anything in response, so I just shake my head and continue scrolling. Makes me a little sad, as some of my FB friends who are approvingly posting this BS are people I really love and are truly good people (though they unfortunately have misguided opinions).
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 07:43 PM
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DatCisco linked to the same post I found to be very clear-headed about the issue. The truth is that all other things being equal, 9 times out of 10 a woman will choose the white man over the minority. Therefore, the solution is to make sure that all other things are NOT equal. Your body must be fitter, your game tighter, and your wallet fatter. Regarding your response to him: why worry about something that is difficult to change (your facial structure) when there are other levers?
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 06:04 AM
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If young enough and raised by a preacher, maybe. I must say, as a gay guy myself, he's very attractive. If he's straight he should be able to do much better than marrying a former (?) porn star with eyes that betray heartless contempt for men ... unless his religious upbringing has made him utterly omega.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 04:48 AM
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Her eyes are frightening. And I wouldn't be surprised if he was actually gay.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 06:24 PM
1

And let's not even talk about Lilith...
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 05:25 PM
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I go with the general principle that all medications are poisons with positive side effects. In other words, use them as little as possible. Plan B is an ovulation inhibitor and often used in combination with estrogen and estradiol, i.e. it interferes with hormonal pathways. Not a good idea to fuck with your body's natural signaling system.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 04:06 PM
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"I would never want to belong to a club that would have someone like me as a member."
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 03:52 PM
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I love Dalrock's blog, even though I "shouldn't" as a person who used to think I was a left-leaning liberal. He's the clearest voice on what's fundamentally wrong with institution of marriage in the 21st Century. His influence is almost enough for me to consider going back to institutional religion.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 03:47 PM
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I agree with the pharmacist's sentiment, but editorial remarks are not part of her job. I have all kinds of judgments about my clients, but it's not my job to deliver them.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 03:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure the term "Napoleon Complex" was created by women as a way to say "Eeeewwww! how dare short guys try to turn me on!"
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 03:39 PM
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I would add that it's ridiculously hard to actually get a Kommen grant. The rules for grant proposals are Byzantine, and the administration/reporting requirements quite burdensome once you get one. (This is in comparison with an NIH or NSF grant.)
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 04:41 PM
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Maybe. But if you have to choose between $10,000+ in lawyer fees vs. whatever small amount it costs to get legallly married (idk, my partner and I haven't done it yet mostly because of my philosophical issues with marriage) wouldn't you opt for the latter? You might object that it immediately puts one of us (probably me since my income is higher) at risk for divorce-rape, but I've seen gay guys who were not legally married get cleaned out by their domestic partner, as in some locales, common law…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 08:30 PM
1

There are some tax benefits related to estates. This matters when you're middle-aged. Younger people tend not to think about these things because they don't have many assets at stake and haven't structured their lives in a way that puts others at risk should they die unexpectedly.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 08:11 PM
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In other societies marriages are simply social contracts. They are typically negotiated by the older adults in the community, and essentially forced upon the very young. Because the young spouses are inexperiened and impressionable, they adapt themselves to the container, procreate, and if they're lucky, grow to "love" each other (more in the sense of Agape, emphatically not in the sense of Eros). At a mature age a socially successful man may wander sexually, hence the tolerance for mistresses i…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 07:49 PM
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This reads like a cartoon from fatpeoplestories. It has all the motifs (entitled hamplanet who can't recognize her own cognitive dissonance). I'm not saying it didn't happen. Only that it seems "too perfect" a story.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 07:36 PM
1

Actually, anal sex is a signature act only because it is culturally assigned to us (even though many straight guys have expressed interest in anally penetrating women). Redditor "should_" is correct, it is a learned behavior. Anal sex is messy and not particularly comfortable. For me gay sex is mostly about close physical contact with another man. I won't go into details on my sex practices here because this board is mostly for straight guys, but I personally I avoid penetrative acts that involv…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 07:27 PM
1

This board is mostly of sociological interest to me. It has some individual practicality in dealing with women and men in the workplace, and maybe tangentially in understanding some aspects of the dynamics in my own LTR, but for the most part I'm aged out of the sexual marketplace (or happily partnered, depending on how you want to look at it) so I have no interest in evaluating men or women for sex.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 07:12 PM
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"Afraid" is an interesting word. If you had asked me 20 years ago, I would simply say "no, I'm just not sexually interested in women". And since I grew up around women, women did not seem particularly mysterious. That's still true: at a very basic level there is no sexual motivation for me, so I don't end up having to put up with shit tests, etc. What I've learned in the interim is that straight men have to exert a huge amount of work to get laid and even more to maintain a LTR. So the kind of p…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 04:42 PM
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No, as far as I know, it's a RP term. I'm not sure the concept applies to gay men exactly the way it does to women. Cognitively, gay men are a mix of male and female, potentially hypergamous, potentially polygamous. Promiscuity may be less psychologically damaging for gay men than for straight women, but probably more damaging than it is for straight men. Physically ... well, you know what the public health risks are. Aside from those, men age more gracefully than women, so the physical toll of …
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 04:20 PM
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Yeah, independent to dependable is a later transition and it's not talked about much at TRP because it requires the first transition to have been stably achieved. Unfortunately, it's also wrapped up in White Knight behavior because dependability gets conflated with being a White Knight. But I don't think any of this is necessarily easy. Also, our society makes it very difficult for men to fully realize the second transition because fathers are now always at risk of having their children taken aw…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 07:18 AM
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Speaking of actual fathers, you're lucky if you have a relatively RP one. I credit my partner's unperturbable sanity to having a very RP dad. I like his dad quite a bit even as conservative as he is. I grew up with a feminist single mother, so at a relative disadvantage. Another thing that has been very important for me to understand: mature masculinity isn't entirely about power and control, it's about power to protect, to foster the care and growth of dependent beings. That can manifest in a n…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 07:04 AM
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There are a number of things in play here. One is just the cold reality of SMV, the fact that feminine tics will degrade your attractiveness to other gay men. You're right to modify them because from an aesthetic point of view they are not helping you get dates. The other is a more internal issue, and one that I see both straight and gay guys here on TRP struggling with, and that is how to tap your inner masculine being (higher Will, true Self or whatever you want to call it). The latter is a li…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 06:57 AM
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Re: guardian angel, thanks, that's a high compliment, I believe in serendipity and synchronicity (whatever may be its source). CC = "cock carousel" I've been fortunate enough to have had plenty of sexual and romantic opportunities, but none of them materialized into a satisfying long term relationship until I could integrate the internal father figure.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 06:48 AM
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Fun fact: not all gay guys take it up the ass.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 06:38 AM
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A guy who is considered more masculine just because he has a motorcycle, a lower voice, or what have you, but who hasn't completely integrated his masculinity If you're far enough along on RP, you'll see through those trappings. These days I'm rarely tempted (in a serious sexual way, aesthetic appreciation aside) because I can see through most gay men and actually most straight men also. It's actually very peaceful.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 06:37 AM
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You quoted the exact passage I was going to cut+paste and comment on (except for the last sentence although it's somewhat true). This is the kernel of the gay male spiritual quest. By the time you're middle-aged, as I am, you realize your daddy-alpha isn't going to materialize (although you may have had many facimiles thereof on the CC). Your only choice, if you are to remain sane and whole, is to become the father figure you have been seeking all your life. This realization doesn't preclude an …
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 06:34 AM
1

What about finding or making meaning in life? That's a lifelong journey every man must undertake alone. Every man has to confront his mortality and make some meaning out of it. Every man has a different solution to that problem. If you want some practical advice, read some of the classics in literature.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 03:52 AM
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That's probably why. He had a good experience and sees no reason to deviate from a model that has served him well. Don't be sad: it sounds like he's been blessed with a loving wife and can afford naivete.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 03:42 AM
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If any man could appreciate sacrificing time with your kids, you think it would be him, but the weird, possibly legitimately patriarchal noblesse oblige he feels towards women has blinded him completely. I honestly don't understand white knights.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 03:07 AM
1

He means we are liberated earlier from our mortal coils.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 03:05 AM
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Gay. And middle-aged/jaded. My partner's great, I have no interest in being with anybody else (and I am quite certain he feels the same way) so I have no complaints about my current relationship status. But I've seen so much BS in my life nothing surprises me any more.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 02:54 AM
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Actually, the OP kind of validates the complaints that feminists make about friend-zone betas. Read very carefully: When it comes to women, I've explained to him the most important thing to remember is they are people and like all people they deserve the benefit of the doubt whenever possible ... and engage them in conversation as you would any human being. Think about what's going on behind the scenes cognitively: treat women as if they were people. In other words, they are not really people, b…
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 11:33 PM
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In their hamsters they know that women can multitask so they really can talk and do as much as men. Relevant
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 11:17 PM
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I don't believe friendship works exactly like a bank account. I would view it more as a symbiosis in the context of a larger ecosystem. Sure, there needs to be mutual benefit, but the flow of explicit benefits may alternate over time, and there are also contextual forces that exert themselves on the relationship. That said, if a friendship is not mutually beneficial in some tangible (or at least potentially tangible) way, then it will be unstable and doomed to fade.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 10:57 PM
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Upvote for Television. I thought the world had forgotten about that book.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/14 06:31 AM
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Agree. Gay guy here. While I love my female family members and the limited number of female friends I have, I hate feminism, I hate the way it has damaged some of the women in my family, and I am extra extra extra grateful not to have to be in a LTR with a woman.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/14 06:27 AM
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I used to have a friend who was a retired financial manager / economist for a large bank, and who had started a small business offering fee-for-service (for something concrete and unrelated to banking). He told me his pro-bono clients were unfailingly the worst, i.e. the unhappiest and most demanding. He had a simple explanation: "if a service is priced at zero, it will be perceived to have no value".
/r/TheRedPill14/09/14 05:22 PM
2

It's great to use fictional characters and/or celebrities as inspiration, but I'm not sure they make good role models. It's important to have real-world examples in order to know what is realistic. I have had the good fortune to have an excellent colleague/mentor, around whom I model my professional behavior. He's not perfect, and we've duked it out over the years on a few issues (having one particularly thorny period), but I still count him as my best and most important mentor. I think the key …
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 07:47 PM
2

If you're going to help your partner get out of debt (and there are reasons to do that) it's better to help them get in a situation where they can pay down the debt faster. For example, if you share an apartment, pay a larger proportion of the rent so that the other person has more free money to pay down the debt. NEVER EVER legally take on the other person's debt.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 05:36 AM
3

I believe one of the major themes of the film is that there are often ugly truths hidden under pretty fantasies. This is true of the film, but the ugly truths extend to how we view the very foundations of our civilization: we are taught to think of our social betters as being morally superior, but in reality they are just as depraved or even more so.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:12 PM
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Be very careful with these people that subscribe to the ideology of verbal communication for everything. Non-verbal communication is just that, non-verbal communication. The wife has communicated that she really couldn't give a flying fuck about her husband's sexual satisfaction. For a long while I thought that people who advocated "talking things through" were moronic or had mild Aspberger's. Now I think it's a calculated strategy to trap people with their own words all the while maintaining pl…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:00 PM
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Oh she was one of those... Let me guess, she would have been equally attracted to you if you were a fat slob? Or does "health at every size" apply to women only?
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 01:29 PM
6

Probably the only way to deal with this effectively is to calmly tell the bouncer, as you're leaving, that you'll be sure to distribute a review, far and wide via social media, of the "clientele" that the establishment welcomes. Might not do much, but it will make them think about the economic impact of allowing this sort of thing to happen.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 01:34 AM
5

The toasts were from the family and friends. I am summarizing and paraphrasing, but they really were that bad.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 12:41 AM
24

Several years back in my BP days, I went to an extraordinarily painful wedding. I knew the bride better than the groom (she and I were in this longstanding yoga group togther). Bride was actually very nice and reasonably pretty (but close to 30), groom was painfully beta. Almost omega. IIRC he ended up taking her last name. The toasts to the bride were along the lines of "it must be true love, you could have done much better but you totally settled", toasts to the groom were like "you were such …
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 08:24 PM
10

Clueless about the differences between men and women....
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 04:47 PM
8

When I think of RP I think more of neo-reaction than I do of game. It may interest you to know that I found my way to RP by a very circuitous route from collapse circles (where I arrived by another very circuitous route from left-leaning environmentalist circles). I was a collapsnik before taking TRP. Very weird journey it has been.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 04:51 AM
10

I am fully sympathetic for victims of true acts of brutality. I am completely unmoved by the cries of most college-aged drunken "date-rape" victims waaaah he twicked me into having sex!!
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 03:05 AM
27

You will find that gay guys who have been around the block and identify with male behavior rather than female behavior tend to have a relatively dim view of women as a group.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 03:03 AM
1

All other things being equal, yes. There are some semi-scientific examinations of this, although I don't have enough time right now to search for them exhaustively. This one is tolerably data-driven.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 01:09 AM
1

Strictly speaking, height is nothing you have control over. Of course you have control over mitigating factors (muscularity, confidence).
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 12:50 AM
23

The modern workplace is a breeding ground for bad female behavior because, much like modern education, it is centered around women and the feminization of men. This is the kernel of it right here. Other TRP members ask me (when the subject comes up) why a gay guy like myself would be interested in TRP. I'm certainly not interested in women sexually. My standard answer is that TRP is as relevant to the world of work as it is to the world of play. I fucking hate waterworks.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 12:34 AM
6

I would rather my sons learn blue collar trades They'll probably be better off (i.e. more employable). How long do you think the college bubble will last?
/r/TheRedPill22/06/14 08:52 PM
7

I'm glad I'm gay pretty much for this reason.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/14 08:46 PM
1

where everything is about being fake as fuck Not exactly, it's more about plausible deniability.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 02:42 AM
1

Maybe the mods need to make a definite decision to shape TRP in the direction of theory or in the direction of friendly discussion, and then create a new sub (or repurpose TRPOffTopic) to serve the other purpose. It doesn't seem to me like very many people are using TRPOffTopic, unfortunately. It's too bad things aren't what they used to be (like, say, a year ago) but I guess all things change. On the plus side, more people are taking an interest in RP thought, and that's a net positive.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure I mentioned this as well but, those short worthless comments do not get downvoted, more often than not they are upvoted because they play toward the lowest common denominator. Well, you're describing a real tension between competing aims. Should TRP be a place to relax and have a camaraderie-building conversation? Or should it be a resource with high signal-to-noise ratio? It is entirely within the mods' rights to shape the sub the way they want it to go, but I want to register m…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:29 AM
9

The decision to sell him out reveals his weakness and worthlessness as a friend. There may be room for redemption later, but it looks like he'll have to learn his lesson the hard way. I take a hard line on this kind of thing. One of the things that is destroying masculinity, and (by extension) civilization, is the breakdown of male friendship. Betraying an old friend for a "relationship" that has a snowball's chance in hell of developing (in spite of his clueless inability to see it) is part and…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:10 AM
1

Respectfully, I disagree. Humor can be a powerful form of communication, and (as another commenter said) brevity is the soul of humor. Some short comments are worthless and idiotic, but that's what the downvote arrow is for.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:05 AM
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Oh, no, poor guy!! Math teachers are at especially high risk for getting screwed over by the realities of the sexual marketplace and by evil women. I say this as someone who uses mathematics (graduate level) in my professional life all the time. You have to work extra hard to avoid the stink of omega. At least in the US where mathematical talent is a liability. Plus, a focus on abstract reasoning diverts cognitive processing away from the kind of social awareness that might have saved this poor …
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:02 AM
22

Let's take a moment to appreciate our fathers. And our RP uncles who stepped in when our father's weren't around! Happy Father's Day to my uncle who was my best father-figure...
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 12:40 AM
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The guy sold out an old friend for a woman who doesn't even want him. Speaks volumes.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 12:38 AM
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I sympathize with your situation. I was raised by a single mother who was also a feminist. Plus I'm a gay guy. I'm fortunate in at least having an RP uncle with a strong presence in my life. First, "weighing ones options" is actually a strength, so I would not view that as being a "bitch". If you can remember that inaction is in effect a decision that has also has costs, and weigh those costs in comparison to those associated with specific actions, then you'll be more effective at making decisio…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:49 PM
4

many here have the political views of some neoliberals but try to solve problems with more regulations instead of letting the swarm deal with it. This. The regulatory BS is counter-productive. I understand that some of the strict rules are driven by a need to avoid giving the Reddit Admins any reason to shut down TRP (given that we are not popular to say the least). However, TRP functions in part as a venue for venting, seeking camaraderie, etc., and arbitrary rules against jokes, short comments…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:42 PM
7

And yet radical feminists are still part of Women's Studies canon (e.g. Daly, MacKinnon, Dworkin).
/r/MensRights14/06/14 05:53 AM
12

Stories like this should be a reminder: always leverage your unearned advantages into earned ones. I.e., never rest on your laurels.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 02:53 PM
2

Socratic method: didn't tell them up front what was wrong, but I asked pointed questions which led them to see the problems.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:14 AM
2

I've taught some (science) classes where I've presented bad work as a case study of what not to do. But I see your point, and I doubt anything like critical thinking skills are encouraged in WS classes.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 11:57 PM
1

Paternal nurturing (aka mentoring) is the antithesis of BP. But it isn't let me kiss your boo-boo and make it feel better, it's helping to set realistic goals and appropriate limits, and to inspire/motivate a child/protegee to be the best they can be. That's how you nurture somebody to be socially successful.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 11:55 PM
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You observe that MacKinnon is often assigned in Women's Studies classes even though "most" feminists typically disagree with her conclusions. My question: what is the purpose of the assigned reading? Is it to spark controversy and catalyze discussion? If so, then it is within the bounds of pedagogy and does not necessarily constitute endorsement or advocacy of MacKinnon's viewpoint. However, if it assigned reading because it represents part of Women's Studies canon, then I agree that is very dis…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 10:24 PM
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But the fear some men appear to harbor of being falsely accused is wildly out of sync with the actual rate at which this occurs. /s
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:50 PM
3

I'm sure mothers would be totally OK with having their infant switched out for the other one born in the next room over. Right?
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 07:50 AM
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Meh, let 'em have their echo chamber. The more divorced from reality they become, the quicker they will be abandoned. If the original OP is to be believed, it's already happening.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 06:08 AM
3

46, whitish, gay
/r/MensRights07/06/14 03:50 AM
1

Regarding gay people, less and less so. And gays run the risk of alienating straight people and reversing the trend by continuing to be whiny bitches past any real reason to do so [yes I'm gay so no I'm not homophobic].
/r/TheRedPill07/06/14 03:38 AM
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Meh, as a gay guy I can say that handsomeness is a real thing. But a plain face can be overcome by physical fitness. And for women, who are less visual than men, I suspect a handsome face matters even less.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/14 03:03 AM
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I agree that communication happens on many levels, but not necessarily the levels you think. Much of it is socially contextual, and much of it is physical (as in the body). As for my choice of examples, which (yes) prioritize feminine beauty and masculine ability to acquire resources, the choice was intentional. That's a problem in my world. I assume by "my world" you mean a feminist-informed one. My problem with feminism is that it totally ignores physical reality. At the foundation of the dema…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 07:04 PM
6

Disagree. Words are cheap. It's not that every day needs to be a contest, but one should always be aware of the value one adds to the relationship. It is not enough to say [she|he] loves me for who I am! because "who you are" is conditional on social context. A man who loses his six-figure-paying job is not the same man as before. A woman who gains 100 pounds is not the same woman as before. (I realize these are cartoon examples but they illustrate the point.) Maybe you adapt: the man who loses …
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 04:27 PM
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There is no "made it" in relationships. You always and continuously have to prove your value to your partner. If you slip over a long enough period of time, contempt will set in and then it's just waiting for the inevitable.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 02:18 PM
7

"All models are wrong. Some are useful."
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 06:35 AM
9

Had to google around so this may not be the best citation, but here's why.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 05:19 AM
8

I understand your POV, but I think what has revived this interest in RadFems is the recent libelous claims that the MRM is filled with murderous misogynists, when in fact the only place where gender-based genocide has ever been advocated is among RadFems. And yet nobody has ever called them out for their hatred, as melancholy as it may be.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 04:46 AM
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I'd wish these women would think before they wrote. If they could think, they would not be radfems.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 04:43 AM
6

It's a bad question. What do you mean by "equal"? Men and women are just different. We share a lot of biology (being human) but also differ in our anatomy. The anatomical and hormonal differences imply different motivations and strategies, especially when you consider the eons of evolution that evolved our brains in addition to the rest of our bodies. Men and women, on average, have different sets of talents and motives, but these talents and motives work together in a functioning society. There…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 04:17 AM
1

You'll miss your mother when she's gone. (I do, even though I have severe reservations, to put it mildly, about her feminism and the way she raised my siblings and me.) You can be firm with her without creating unnecessary distance.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 04:09 AM
4

Relevant: German novel about a 15-year-old boy seduced by a 36-year-old woman; fucks up the kid permanently. Was also made into a pretty good movie with Ralph Fiennes and Kate Winslet, although the movie had a much more BP spin.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 03:48 AM
1

"/s" softens the joke. Oh well, Poe will get you every time...
/r/MensRights05/06/14 07:29 PM
4

Haha. Well, I love your work, anyway...
/r/MensRights05/06/14 06:14 PM
3

I hope you realize I was being sarcastic?
/r/MensRights05/06/14 06:10 PM
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"Your honor, I was so drunk I didn't know what I was signing..."
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 06:01 PM
6

That's hot!!
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 06:01 PM
2

Drew argues that Parisi's lawsuit jumps to the conclusion the school acted with gender bias, and doesn't show evidence of inconsistent outcomes or selective enforcement in the way it applies its rules. "The notion that removal of an individual who has been accused of sexual assault from proximity to his alleged victim raises any suggestion that such action was motivated by gender bias is pure, unsubstantiated speculation" and not a sound basis for the court to grant relief, Drew wrote. There's n…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:36 PM
1

That's an interesting observation, and it reveals what's wrong with both philosophies when taken to the logical extreme. TRP and (Laveyan) satanism are good for the individual, but bad for society if everybody practices them with an overly narrow view. Tragedy of the Commons. Conventional religion exists as a dampening effect on this tendency, incentivizing people to cooperate. Which is why I have no problem with Christianity: it leads to a functioning society. The problem with so-called Churchi…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:23 PM
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In porn, hot women freely give away sex to the male protagonist. In romantic comedies and romance novels, desirable men freely give away their commitment to the female protagonist. And so the sun rises in the east again...
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:01 PM
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Are you in an urban area with a lot of gay guys? It's possible the attention you're getting is a cross-section of the attention that's locally available. Also: are you working out? I mean, obviously so? It used to be that mostly only gay guys did that, but I think in the last 5-10 years that has changed, as straight guys have had to compete harder for women. But if you're getting too muscly, you may be unintentionally signalling teh gay.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 04:57 PM
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Might be skewed by your geography. I live in a less "fabulous" (but still urban and desirable) locale, and I don't see the unhappiness and degeneracy quite on the scale you report. No drugs, not nearly as much sexual degeneracy. But then I know mostly couples (some of them are non-monogamous and their constant checking of Grndr and Scruff is weirdly anti-social but oh well). I don't agree with you on this point: Every man wants to fuck the hot 18-20 year old right? Well, for homosexuals, we are …
/r/TRPOffTopic05/06/14 06:56 AM
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I agree with your list. Some comments: The argument against gay marriage are really arguments against what marriage itself has become. This graphic sums it up. It is inconsistent and even cruel to deny marriage, as it is commonly understood today, to same-sex partners. However, the common understanding today (I mean primarily for heterosexuals) is vastly different from what it used to be, and perhaps intrinsically disordered from a societal perspective. To address point (1), some gay couples do …
/r/TRPOffTopic05/06/14 06:50 AM
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I make a point not to bring it up (e.g. at work) unless it is relevant. I.e., I do have a male partner, and we do thing socially together, so it's relevant to bring up his name in the context of what I'm doing. Other than that, it's really not anybody's business. I don't like gay culture either, BTW, which is why I avoid it whenever possible.
/r/TRPOffTopic05/06/14 06:42 AM
1

I went through a spate of neo-paganism. Ended up being too woo (and waaaaaay too feminist) for my taste, but it did leave me with some effective visualization techniques for instantly morphing my body language. If I'm in a situation where I need to hold frame, I imagine a specific godform, and it works instantly.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 06:22 AM
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Relevant
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 04:59 PM
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Just like any other male space, the manosphere is subject to all the sanitization efforts of the Feminine Imperative I’ve outlined in this post – by both women and men who still ascribe to feminine-primacy. I've noticed efforts of some in r/MR to try to distance themselves from r/TPR. Presumably the unconscious motive is to sanitize the manosphere for feminine acceptablity.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 04:05 PM
1

Probably because this thread makes you look like a troll. And to be honest, this one isn't helping your case.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 08:22 AM
1

you wouldn't ban people for criticizing the MRM Please cite evidence that this happens here with any frequency. Note that downvote =/= ban.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 08:12 AM
3

#YesAllAbductees
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:55 AM
15

Speaking of witches and communists: ever notice how The Crucible unfolds? False accusation by a young girl who inappropriately lusts after an older married man (who had altruistically taken her in as an orphan) who rebuffs her advances.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:51 AM
2

In other words, she has an awesome father! Clearly he must go to jail...
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:43 AM
1

Indeed.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:39 AM
1

It is for that reason that I count myself a member of both subreddit communities, and do not attempt to distinguish. Detractors willfully refuse to acknowledge any difference, so you do yourself no favors by distancing yourself from TRP. In any case, the major difference is that MRAs work on the public policy level, while TRP works on individual strategy. Yes, there are some obnoxious and immature people on TRP. There are obnoxious people everywhere, it doesn't mean that important topics aren't …
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:38 AM
3

You shitlord.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:27 AM
6

Non-falsifiable conspiracy theory. Rape culture can't be refuted, because presenting evidence against the existence of rape culture is ipso facto evidence for its existence.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:26 AM
2

I claimed self-defense, at which point I was told 'self-defense' was stuff like shielding your face with your hands. Essentially, I had a duty to curl up into the fetal position and wait until somebody in authority stopped it. This is 21st Century Western Civilization in microcosm. Cf. gun control. You are not allowed to do anything for yourself, you are expected to wait for the "authorities" to decide what they will do for you.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:18 AM
4

Document all correspondence. In writing. The one and only time I got reported to a credit agency was because of a gym that refused to acknowledge my termination.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:11 AM
6

Yes and no. Could I go to a dark room somewhere and stick my dick in a hole? Yes. Would I want to? No. If you want a quality companion (or even a quality lay) then the requirements are pretty much the same as they are for straight guys. Or, let's be honest, women as well, in terms of physical standards (i.e. don't be fat and ugly). The individual I speak of had some difficulty getting laid; it wasn't impossible, but I don't think he had many repeat customers.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 03:16 AM
6

Pay for the first date. I don't care how liberated and progressive you are. Or she is. Even Gloria Steinem likes someone to pay for her dinner. It's sweet. It's classy. It shows her that you were raised well. Feminism equality at its finest. At least she offers this: She can pay for the next dinner. Of course, once you've set up the expectation that you're the provider, who's going to change it?
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 02:53 AM
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its ok to be fat, have poor hygine and dress bad because im so intullectual. I know some gay guys like that. I used to be friends with a guy who felt entitled (yes that word) to my sexytimes because we had some common intellectual interests. "I don't want to work out, people should love me for who I am, and because I'm such an intellectual and poet". It's fucking pathetic, maybe even more so than on a straight guy.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 02:47 AM
1

Can confirm.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/14 03:19 AM
1

Her target is the bitch-boy who will support her emotionally and probably financially without any expectation of sex.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 08:28 AM
3

Basically, men are vending machines for women with no autonomy of our own. Got it.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 08:00 AM
2

Somehow I don't think you're her target audience.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 07:50 AM
3

Do 50% of the housework but 100% of the repairs.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 07:32 AM
1

OK. So do I.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 07:01 AM
1

He killed twice as many men as women, right? Now that you mention it...
/r/MensRights02/06/14 06:08 AM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA6R1DMb-Z8 God bless Bob Fosse.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 06:05 AM
1

Please tell me these "parts" were examples shown in a documentary about the horrors of some corners of the porn industry.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 06:03 AM
2

I don't love it. I prefer Jack Donovon's "androphile", but most people don't get what that means, so I continue to use the word "gay" just to communicate. I'm also OK with "homosexual" although I agree it can sound too clinical.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 01:53 AM
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Yeah, as a gay man, I also find effeminate gay men irritating.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 12:45 AM
3

Just curious: is this an opinion about effeminate gay men or all gay men?
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 12:19 AM
2

Anger comes after denial. Natural part of the process. After awhile the anger will subside.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 12:10 AM
5

MRM is focused on the public policy. TRP is focused on individual strategy. They are not opposed to each other, rather they complement each other.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 12:09 AM
1

Consider rates of alcoholism among (e.g.) Sephardic Jews, Irish, and Native Americans, and then consider how long these groups historically have had access to alcohol compared to each other. Alcoholism selects you out of the gene pool, so to the extent that genetics imparts a risk for alcoholism (and the penetrance may not be extremely high, i.e. genetics may only explain variability in alcoholism to a limited degree), populations with longer exposure to alcohol will be selected to have lower ra…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 11:56 PM
2

Also, from a genetic perspective: Alcoholic means your ancestors were exposed to alcohol relatively late in their history. Diabetic means your ancestors' carbohydrate metabolism was optimized for a different environment than the one you/they are currently living in. Neurotic/psychotic/hypocondriac/narcissist: welcome to 21st Century Western civilization, where the environment is totally inappropriate for our hunter-gatherer brains. But good for you for taking control of your health.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 09:44 PM
1

"Good" is value judgment. The only real thing that matters is fitness for the organism's current environment (not even its ancestors' environment or a hypothetical future environment).
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 09:39 PM
3

If anything I'd say that butch lesbians seem to feel sexually entitled to heterosexual women judging by their behavior, which is ironic considering that feminists accuse heterosexual men of the exact same thing. I think they assume men operate a certain way but have no real fucking clue what men are actually like. That said, I have two lesbian friends that are dear to me, and neither of them operate this way (but neither is butch). One is happily partnered, the other is recently divorced and too…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 06:34 PM
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gay men tend to be pretty conscientious and respectful of other people We also know that we run the risk of getting the shit kicked out of us if we sexually approach the wrong guy. That's the reason for "gaydar", being able to read subtle cues is a survival strategy.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 06:15 PM
3

Are you asking about how TRP theory applies to homosexuality? I can't comment on lesbians, but for gay men the shit is complicated. To the extent that gay men have neural wiring patterns that are in-between hetero men and hetero women, you'll see mixtures of motivations: polygamous and hypergamous impulses in the same person. That is one other reason I read TRP (someone recently asked me, would link but for the autoremoval feature) is that it has helped me understand my own hidden sexual motivat…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 06:10 PM
11

Statistics are patriarchal and misogynistic.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 05:58 PM
21

A continuous, increasing stream of this shit over several decades moved me from identifying as a feminist (raised by a feminist single mother) to being extremely, vociferously anti-feminist.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 05:53 PM
2

The other thing is that your father will be more invested in your success than any corporate manager (assuming you have a good relationship with him, and it sounds like you do). In my professional circles there's a lot of talk about "mentoring"; I've had a couple of good mentors in my professional life, and they've made all the difference in my career. It would be foolish to throw away the superior mentoring you're getting from your dad. I don't know why your mother can't understand this basic f…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 05:49 PM
3

Good for your father: running his own business and free from the corporate chains. Corporate 9-5 jobs are the quintessence of slavery in the modern West. His income potential might be lower than some corporate jobs, but he's not at the mercy of a sociopathic manager or faceless corporate bean counters. Do you want to be rich or do you want to be free? Those are two different things. Some corporate jobs may make you rich, but they will never make you free.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 05:35 PM
22

It's why I no longer count myself among their ranks.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 08:27 AM
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I'm pretty sure this is part of the satire: YesAllCats is extremely problematic. Please report it to twitter and if applicable in your area, law enforcement But you see this kind of statement often enough. Isn't it interesting that when "progressives" are threatened by some online statement they don't like, they often run to law enforcement - the same patriarchal, male-dominated, gun-toting, authoritarian, right-leaning, rights-violating fraternity that progressives are otherwise complaining abo…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 08:06 AM
3

How have you found TRP and how has it helped you improve as a person? Like any subreddit, there's a spectrum. There are some obnoxious posts and comments, but overall I find that it's populated by men (and some women) who are trying to find their way out of the network of lies about sexuality that currently exists in Western culture. I realize there is some "acting out" (what I've characterized as "post-denial anger phase") and TRP detractors seize upon this, but I view it as a natural emotional…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 05:08 AM
0

There's a difference between "you have pretty eyes" and "that dress fits you real good" in both the intention of the speaker and the affect on the person the comments are directed toward. I doubt that. The only difference is in the social aptitude of the person delivering the comments. In other words, men who comment on the fit of your dress rather than the beauty of your eyes are demonstrating fewer social skills and therefore lower class membership, triggering your "ew creepy" response. Fear a…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 03:51 AM
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Yeah, so, whaccha gonna do about it? Oh, you're gonna get Big Daddy government to enforce all kinds of new laws that penalize men for being ... male? In other words, you're going to call upon men to enforce laws against witchcraft rape culture? Good luck with that...
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 03:25 AM
4

I guess women and men aren't equal then? How far do you want to take that? You can't have "equal rights" across the board and then claim hypoagency for pet causes.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:30 PM
28

Good luck with your revolution against biology.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 11:16 PM
1

It helps to be social, hang out with friends. Not only because it feels good, but also because most setbacks can be mitigated by a supportive social network.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 11:07 PM
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Well then I agree with you on a great many points. By the way, the "friend zone" issue is interesting to me because I can deeply appreciate it on both sides. On the one hand, I'm deeply sympathetic to the male POV where women seem to say one thing while doing another and it's totally unclear how to make oneself more appealing to the opposite sex (or whatever your target population is). I've never actually experienced that (maybe because I'm so sexy, but more likely just that I've always known ho…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:20 PM
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Before I respond, let me be clear: I do not believe that women's suffrage should be repealed, in any way shape or form. However, the argument makes sense in this way: if feminists continue to clamor for special treatment on a variety of social fronts (e.g. to be given the benefit of the doubt in university-adjudicated sexual assault cases because "men take advantage of women", or as police officers or soldiers to be given a different set of physical fitness standards, or to be given paid monthly…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 08:52 PM
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Legislation based on fear? What are you referring to? The focus on "sexual harrassment" is leading to HR policy and even legislation that creates a toxic workplace. University policy in adjudicating sexual assault cases has thrown out anything resembling due process because of a climate of fear on campus. Does sexual harassment occur in the workplace? Does sexual assault occur on campus? Yes. But the fear is out of scale with reality, and serves only to demonize men and absolve women of personal…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 08:31 PM
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Gay guy with only sisters, raised by feminist single mother. I think that explains enough. Note: I love my female family members, but there is no way they could have offered any kind of male perspective, especially since they are feminists.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 08:13 PM
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Well I agree with you on that point. But legislation based on fear is poor public policy. I wish we lived in a world where everybody could be comfortable all the time (well actually no I don't because then it would be impossible to grow). But we don't. The best we can hope for is an evenly applied set of principles that allow us to move through life without high risk of a catastrophic event occurring. Most of the current set of feminist issues involve either random events that are far from catas…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 08:07 PM
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The point is that "scared" means nothing outside of context or comparison. I'm equally scared of walking home alone in a bad neighborhood, because my chances of getting mugged are equal to or greater than your chance of being raped (i.e. truly raped as in forced into sex by threat of violence, not the faux-rape of alcohol-impaired judgment, which I will admit is apparently a huge risk for young women these days). Women are "scared" because they are encouraged to be so, not because the fear refle…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 07:53 PM
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When you catcall a pretty woman, it may be the first and last time in your life you've ever done it. But she hears it every. fucking. day. and just wants to exist outside her own sexuality for a change. Guess what? Men would like to exist outside our sexuality for a change. For example, being expected to pay for dinners and drinks. Being overlooked (even at work) because you're short, etc. Really, if your only problem is navigating a constant stream of compliments that you're forced to ignore wi…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 07:36 PM
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Legal equality is worth fighting for. In the current phase of Western civilization it makes sense, but we should advocate for full equality: in the family court system, on campus, in military service, etc. Of course in reality men and women will never be "equal" in the sense of having (on average) the same sets of physical and mental talents and (on average) the same motivations, so individual strategies are still necessary for navigating through life. However, the focus on some things like circ…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 07:04 PM
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I see the point (not being assumed a priori to be a child molester), but really the last thing I want is to sit next to a kid. Earlier this week I was irritated because a mom+small child moved to the seat behind me. However, there is a fundamental problem with the way fatherhood is deemed unimportant / insiginficant. I believe that on average it's true that fathers are irrelevant in the early childhood years (say up to about 4 or 5), equally important in the middle years (5ish to 12) and more im…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 06:42 PM
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men's rights is more of an legislative strategy, red pill is a individual strategy. This is exactly right. Left/right dichotomy is effectively meaningless. "Left" argues for a specific bundle of goodies, "Right" argues for a different bundle. Neither typically addresses the huge fundmental problems in society (income inequality, resource depletion).
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 06:37 PM
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The proper honest response to "does this shirt make me look fat?" is "No, it's not the shirt."
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 06:27 PM
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Almost all feminist women claim to know what male experience is (telling us how "privileged" we are); there is almost no recognition of men as human beings who have an internal experience.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 06:17 PM
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I wouldn't do a whole post because that's just attention-seeking, and most guys at TRP aren't interested. But if there were a clear need, I'd do it. Red pill is important for work as well as play if your work environment includes a sizeable fraction of women. Keeping frame at work is critical to getting ahead or even not being shat upon. Also (in my opinion and probably that of many if not most gay men) the more authentically masculine you are, the more attractive you are to other gay men. Fun f…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 02:36 AM
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Works both ways: You are a woman, and therefore incapable of understanding men's rights issues.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 12:57 AM
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Women are EQUAL to men So women should not expect to have men pay for their dinner and drinks? Women should be required to register for the draft? And held to the same physical fitness standards for military, police, or fire jobs? And serve prison sentences equivalent to the ones men serve? And not be given the benefit of the doubt in family courts?
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 12:50 AM
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Hah. Well, I can relate to those poor saps: my work is pretty technical, it's been a challenge in the dating world. My partner's brain is not technical at all and he probably does not understand a word I say when I blather on about work, but he does listen politely.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 04:56 PM
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The lack of empathy/compassion for men is astounding. That is the real reason she's single.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 04:39 PM
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Yeah, Kerry, good luck with the shaming.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 04:37 PM
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She's not hideous, but she's a far cry from gorgeous (disclaimer: gay guy here, so I could be off-base). I.e. I don't think she's in a position to be extremely picky. She could be happy if she relaxed her ridiculous standards and gave one of her handsome tall bearded boring dudes enough of a chance to open up.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 04:27 PM
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Men can benefit from false accusations.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 04:21 PM
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The type of person who is attracted to these jobs and thus to the Seattle area seems to be a socially awkward, emotionally stunted, sheltered, strangely entitled, and/or a misogynistic individual Entitled is now the new word. Interesting. Because this whole article reeks of entitlement. "I should be able to find a tall handsome man who makes lots of money and who isn't boooring and who appreciates me for the precious snowflake I am even though I'm overweight and over 30."
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 04:13 PM
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Actually, I would say that it's necessary that you articulate first to me the basis of your claim to understand what it is to be a man and why you understand it better than I do. :-)
/r/MensRights30/05/14 08:23 AM
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I'm no longer really in touch with the guy, so I can't say for sure. I know she ended up with at least 75% of the marital assets. She was bitter about losing access to the corporate jet, but her lifestyle was at least upper middle class last time I checked in. She was fucking a tennis player or some jock. She was not extraordinarily beautiful (i.e. model-quality looks) by any standard, even before her kids, though by no means hideous.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 11:06 AM
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Moderately so. The problem is the best he could hope for with the new business is an upper middle-class lifestyle. His wife didn't sign up for that, she signed up for the private jet, homes on every continent and parties with elites.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 05:33 AM
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That's what happens when women age out of the dating market. They basically hate it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/emma-nicholson/feeling-invisible_b_4458755.html
/r/MensRights27/05/14 12:12 AM
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"Misogyny!!"
/r/MensRights27/05/14 12:10 AM
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I used to know somebody who kinda did that. Went from being an investment manger at a Very Big Bank to starting his own business providing a service that only people with lots of discretionary income would use. His wife promptly divorced him.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/14 10:07 PM
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I wonder what will happen to a military culture that systematically rewards lying and manipulation within its ranks?
/r/MensRights26/05/14 09:54 PM
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From the same source: In certain instances part of the wergild was paid to the king and to the lord—these having lost, respectively, a subject and a vassal. The werglid of a woman was higher only because of how it affected the king. Patriarchy. /s
/r/MensRights26/05/14 01:26 AM
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Nutjobs are everywhere. That is why it is important to counter nuttery with reason, without ignoring unpleasant realities. Because even nutjobs know when they are being lied to.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 07:24 PM
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Here's an example of "how women are": http://i.imgur.com/WAj3BuJ.png Anecdotal and cherry-picked? Yes. But the media consistently ignores that women's sexuality can have a dark edge. Here it is. I won't argue against the observation that TRP sometimes (often?) misses nuance. But you won't find much open acknowledgment of women's capacity for evil outside TRP and similar places. Until society enforces equality of consequence and responsibility between genders in addition to equality of opportunit…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 06:14 PM
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In all honesty, the first two panels are a more-or-less accurate depiction of what many conservatives in the androsphere have been arguing: the sexual revolution has distorted a tenuous equilibrium achieved by more restrictive sexual moral systems in a way that benefits a small number of men to the detriment of a great many more men. It's the third panel that is batshit insane. The conservative androsphere seeks to return to earlier, stricter standards of sexual morality. You may disagree with i…
/r/MensRights25/05/14 05:49 PM
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I think you fail to completely understand what TRP is about. On the surface you're correct, there is a focus on sex and the fact that women are somehow less angelic than typically presented by mass media and most of our institutions in the West. And therefore the discussions come off as superficial and sometimes angry. However, what you're not seeing is that TRP is a space where men (mostly young men) can explore what it means to be a man in relation to women, stripped away from most of the lies…
/r/MensRights25/05/14 05:40 PM
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30 is still pretty young. 25 is waaaay too young to be losing hope. Men start coming into their own power in their early 30s. Hang in there...
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 04:51 PM
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The "man up and take responsibility for your life" aspect of TRP is worthwhile. The "how to fuck women by treating them as inferior beings" not so much. TRP is sometimes a useful map for crudely sketching out male/female dynamics. But the map is not the territory, and TRP can be lacking in nuance.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 09:14 AM
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You may be flawed, but keep in mind that this is not a static state if you want something different. It may take time, but you can always improve yourself. The biggest trap you can fall into is believing what those assholes tell you, that you will always be flawed. The most important TRP lesson is to be the kind of man you would look up to: your best mentor or role model. If you're half way successful at that, you'll have a reason to live, and women will have a reason to want to be with you. It …
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 08:01 AM
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Not only not an MRA, but not anything resembling a PUA or /r/redpill guy, either. This does, however, resemble radfem ideology. For example: If these men cared for the planet and knew men would end up killing her, why haven’t they created a global male euthanising service to save the planet? Goddess knows women have been trying for millennia to put an end to male rule by all means possible, including by culling men... Now, even if a few men talk of committing suicide and of reducing global human…
/r/MensRights25/05/14 04:00 AM
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Well, to be clear, I have never used the term "manipulative hamsters", although that term certainly appears in TRP. We all see what we want to see, including myself. Maybe the anger component is a major part of TRP, but it's not what I personally come here for. I come here to be reminded that women and men respect men who are confident and self-possessed, and to always be improving.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 03:48 AM
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Reciprocity and mutual respect are key.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 03:26 AM
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I think you'd find a spectrum of voices on TRP. Some are as extreme as to say things like "women't shouldn't be allowed to vote" and "women should submit to their husbands", and there is some anger about how some women treat boyfriends/husbands poorly. The anger is a post-denial-stage reaction to a perception that they have been lied to about women's motives, priorities, and behaviors, and I think it is simply a stage. While these sentiments do appear on TRP, I don't think of them as mainstream.…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 03:14 AM
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Maybe. I come back from time to time when I'm procrastinating. Usually I'm here long enough to get movitated again to do something productive with my life.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 02:34 AM
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TRP sometimes has some extremist positions, which I generally write off as a product of the post-denial anger phase. But once you reach the acceptance stage I think you mellow out a bit. I also owe some gratitude to TRP for getting me out of a funk about professional issues. I was allowing myself to become a bitch at work, and now that I've changed my attitude things are better and my self-confidence has returned. So THANK YOU.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/14 11:51 PM
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This is really important. My takeaway from the Rodgers atrocity is that the mental health of boys and men needs to be taken seriously. And not with this "all men are potential rapists" mentality, but by genuinely addressing the concerns of boys and men. Rodgers may have been a nutcase from the get-go, but I wonder what would have happened if, from an early age, he had been counseled with real, workable advice on how to improve his social skills.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:39 PM
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Here's TRP commentary on Elliot Rodgers 4 days before the atrocity: http://redditlog.com/snapshots/622029 A neat video demonstrating what happens when you get a beta/omega with pedestalizng behavior/disney love illusions (notice how many times he mentions he 'wants to be worthy') clashing with the reality of where attraction really comes from... It's almost painful to watch. The melancholy and the hampstering...It's as if the lack of female attention has caused him mental illness Keep this in mi…
/r/TheRedPill24/05/14 08:33 PM
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Here's the commentary: http://redditlog.com/snapshots/622029 Tried to post this on the front page, but my account is too new.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/14 08:23 PM
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TRP called him out 4 days ago: http://redditlog.com/snapshots/622029
/r/MensRights24/05/14 07:24 PM
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Needs to be posted on the subreddit.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/14 07:14 PM
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I often reflect that the similar sounding Spanish word necio means moron.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/14 08:41 AM
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Devil is in the details, as your post implies. There's plenty of nuance to reject absolute "left" or "right" dichotomies. I'm OK with local minimum-wage legislation that is carefully thought-out, but blanket national proposals are a bad idea precisely because they ignore local nuance. Fracking is complex: I am sympathetic to the concerns of the affected communities (although note that the environmental costs often bring economic benefits, not that it necessarily justifies the suffering), and am …
/r/MensRights24/05/14 01:20 AM
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The conclusion I've come to is that progressive ideology, at its best, seems to lack an awareness of consequences, promoting policies that seem to do the right thing but will surely lead to poor outcomes. A good example is minimum wage. Of course I hate the fact that people are living in poverty, but anybody who understands basic economics knows that raising minimum wage, in absense of other polices to promote job growth, will simply diminish the pool of available jobs, making things overall wor…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 05:04 PM
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I'm not so sure that's a way out. I can't say for sure because I've never fallen in love with a woman and expected something like love in return, so I don't have a basis for comparison. But the idealistic "love" I thought was possible in my youth does not match the "love" I currently have. I respect my partner, enjoy his company, have a rapport with him, share core values, and we have decent sex. We're much better off with each other than alone. Maybe it's kind of like a brother with benefits. B…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/14 04:36 AM
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I like the model proposed here (recognizing that all models are wrong, some are useful). I'm fine with the role of lieutenant. Better to be second-in-command for a winning team than leader of a terminally losing team.
/r/altTRP22/05/14 06:40 PM
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Good. They respect your boundaries, which is what what I'm advocating: gay men respecting the boundaries of straight men.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 02:59 PM
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I applaud your easy-going attitude, but I don't want my straight friends even having to subconsciously worry about it. When interacting with any man other than my partner, I put on my "straight man" hat and strictly limit sexual thoughts about other men. Yeah, sometimes I still do find myself admiring male beauty, but it's dangerous to let those thoughts go any further than admiration.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 02:58 PM
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I've always thought guys in their 40s were the most attractive. I thought so when I was 16, and still do in my mid-40s.
/r/altTRP22/05/14 02:54 PM
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Think about it from the perspective of a truly straight guy: you don't want to have to worry about your bros coming on to you, that fucks up the whole male-group dynamic. I guess I'm saying don't shit where you eat: if you're going to go hunting almost-straight dick, do it far away from your social circle.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 02:51 PM
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I just visited r/altTRP and found a post about seducing straight men. I think that is part of the problem: straight guys worry about the sexual boundary being violated, and that interferes with the sandbox dynamic of male social groups. Gay men need to keep this in mind if we want to play in the sandbox: honor comes before sex.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 02:37 PM
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I understand the motivation, but ultimately it's dishonorable. A trustworthy platonic male friend (straight or gay) is almost always more valuable than a sex partner.
/r/altTRP22/05/14 02:35 PM
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Thanks. I'm a gay guy who's been here under different user names for awhile. A few reasons: (1) RP is as important for professional issues as it is for dating women; (2) masculine gay men are always perceived as more attractive than effeminate gay men.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 02:25 PM
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Anonymity makes it possible to say things that would otherwise alienate coworkers and family members, who seem to value Buzzfeed quizzes and cute kitty pictures over substantive debate on important social and political issues. But I hear you about the stoner white knights...
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 02:03 AM
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It's better than Facebook.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 01:54 AM
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Upvote for sexual quantum superposition.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 01:44 AM
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Oh, Portland. They're only hurting their cause by alienating reasonable people. This kind of behavior is what has moved me, inch by inch over the years, from somebody who identified as a lefty-progressive to somebody who identifies as a right-leaning conservative.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 12:24 AM
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Wasn't criticizing your comment, just stating my opinion about the OP and the overall subject.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 04:26 PM
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The real problem is that there was no economic compensation which enabled couples with two incomes to actually keep the economic windfall. House prices, transport, health care, child care and worst of all lower wages eat up 70-110% of the gains. The dynamics of economics practically ensures that this would happen once the labor pool doubled. I think it's a stretch to conclude that feminism was orchestrated by elites (although it's interesting to note, anecdotally, that Gloria Steinem was employe…
/r/MensRights21/05/14 03:20 PM
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Most of the given examples (vaccines, GMO foods) are closely tied to issues of trusting authority. In short, anti-vaccine and anti-GMO positions (the latter which I hold) arise because the relevant institutions have appeared to squander their legitimacy. Once that happens, it is very hard to regain trust. For example, collusion between FDA and pharmaceutical corporations, as well as the well-known and well-documented aggressive tactics of (e.g.) Monsanto, render any future statements about the s…
/r/MensRights21/05/14 02:59 PM
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Nope, wasn't me. But it's one of the best ways to cure oneitis: something different, gets your body moving, and gets you meeting other people.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/14 02:43 PM
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RedPillMotors givs good advice. I got over a very bad case of oneitis by taking up dancing.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/14 05:37 AM
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A wage gap certainly exists between men and women in some fields, maybe even many fields. However, it is nowhere near as large as the shrilly presented OMG women make 73c for every dollar a man makes! In the spirit of offering up more published data, in one very specific field, here's this article about nursing that illustrates some of the complexities: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/02/25/male-nurses-make-more-money/ Yes, men in nursing do make more than women in nursing, even after accoun…
/r/MensRights21/05/14 02:46 AM
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Yes and no. More to the point: http://simulacral-legendarium.blogspot.ca/2013/10/visualizing-history-of-love.html
/r/MensRights20/05/14 03:54 PM
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Didn't read (TL). But one thing I have noticed of late is the inability of many LGBT advocates to see things from the opposite (i.e. conservative) perspective. Of course the same thing can be said of many conservatives, but there's an important difference: the rhetoric of cultural conservatives, even at its worst, relies on a fundamental conception of ones obligations to ones community, while the rhetoric of LGBT advocates rests fundamentally on assumed rights of the individual; so pound for pou…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 03:39 PM
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