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P7o7s7t7a7l/r/Divorce_Men09/03/23 08:21 PM
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Advanced (Certain Basic Skills Required!) P7o7s7t7a7l/r/seduction11/07/22 05:49 PM
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LifestyleP7o7s7t7a7l/r/seduction09/08/22 07:48 PM
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Fundamentals P7o7s7t7a7l/r/seduction02/08/22 07:26 AM
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I think I'm being false committed for suicide. Then she docs off a third-party website from a dead life and posts the name to it. Black balling me.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 05:03 AM
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You sound more married than I was. I wasn't expecting to be on record but that's what happened to me. I applied for a passport and then someone noticed I could be docked married again. As it turns out it was all swung online and goated through the penal system over false reporting. We never lived together or kept financials, in fact she was already married. Thats why I can say it wasn't legally married. I think I was black balled over a marriage certificate and the court in LA ran with it like i…
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 03:56 AM
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I've found that, not all, but some lawyers rip you for asking. It's like wearing a target when you go to their office. My situation is too detailed for this discussion only that it's not a divorce it's an annulment. I'm told it's harder to get annulled in California. It's actually easy. As easy as getting my driver's license renewed. True a lawyer could do it for me but I don't have that kind of money laying around. I could just wear a covid mask and probably avoid any hostility in the process j…
/r/Divorce_Men11/03/23 08:17 AM
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I have not had contact with her in over a decade. I tried Facebook but she blocked me.
/r/Divorce_Men10/03/23 03:10 PM
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Although that is true, I have reasons I cannot hire a lawyer namely because they are expensive given my situation. Of the five or so lawyers I have spoken with, the main issue is approaching the problem out of county. She is in Los Angeles, as far as I know, and the lawyers in my area are not up for the travel or risk of dealing with finding her. Finding a lawyer in LA starts with a retainer of 5000 dollars and sometimes more. Paralegal was the other option but I don't want to risk the six hundr…
/r/Divorce_Men10/03/23 03:08 PM
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Annulment makes it so you were never legally married, like it never happened. Divorce recognizes a legal partnership and separates assets and liabilities according to divorce laws.
/r/Divorce_Men10/03/23 03:58 AM
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I wasn't divorced, I went for an annulment. I found the ordeal draining and burdensome. My approach to dating hasn't changed much only that I feel that some moments are put off for too long. I'm still dealing with the institutional aspects of filing and court.
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/23 08:28 PM

I would suggest edibles if they are legal in your state. Takes the edge off a lot, and I stopped feeling horny for a few days. Actually, becoming a seducer of women entails developing a healthy narcissism. I only really become a narcissist over the pursuit of sex. Science seems to justify that narcissism is actually a survival trait in maintaining the species. Just some tidbits. https://youtu.be/w-H5bcW95t8 I was actually looking back at life and thinking how less in trouble I would be without w…
/r/seduction25/08/22 02:43 AM
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Alright, So then just man up and talk to the hater, and say don't screw that up for me. Maybe he'll stop doing it. Some people don't even know they are pressing on people, it's just their personality.
/r/seduction24/08/22 04:15 AM
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Ladies are interested in me when I shave.
/r/seduction23/08/22 06:51 PM
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but if you're a dorky handsome dude who can't say hi to a girl to save his life it won't help much. These girls that can save my life at "hello", where do you meet them and how do you know? I sometimes get stuck saying hello to a ton of women as a dead man. Really, I'd just rather stay alive than give a sh*t.
/r/seduction23/08/22 07:17 AM
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IMO bars, clubs etc. Are also a bad place to pick up girls if you are unattractive and/or shy. Understanding that human beings go through different stages of development. You could extend adolescence as long as you'd like, into your thirties, going to clubs.
/r/seduction23/08/22 06:42 AM
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When I shave, it's an outward flaunt because it's presenting a clean face. "I want that she is interested." Referring to the one in five girls I speak with, when I'm not interested. So I don't shave. Science beards are okay, but you can't actually have a neck beard without knowing the periodic table by heart. Did you talk to all of them? Is it necessary? I would just shave.
/r/seduction23/08/22 05:24 AM

Do you shave? That's the trouble I'm having.
/r/seduction23/08/22 05:15 AM
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Women aren't interested in me, therefore I don't shave. It's a basic step by step in logic.
/r/seduction23/08/22 05:10 AM
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Do they keep their shirts on? Or do they appear with an excuse without a shirt that a spirit told them? You could suggest they go get a tattoo.
/r/seduction23/08/22 05:09 AM
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I'd rather you focus on what you think you did right, and come to the conclusion that rejection is something everyone deals with, given the statistics. What are your strengths and how have you applied them? How did you get a date to begin with? This would be more beneficial to hear about. If you have individual weaknesses, as we all do, I think it would be more beneficial to you to seek self help in the areas of self-esteem. There's a number of books on the subject.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:17 PM
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You need to man up. Women don’t like scared little boys who are afraid of rejection, they like men who don’t give a shit if they get rejected and can accept it with graze. It's a matter of knowing rejection vs something else to do when it happens. I get at a girl, get rejected, then have to wait for other girls to show up. Ideally, it should be my interest that follows, not another beer. That's all I'm saying. Sorry but if you are this insecure and this worried about rejection, how are you even …
/r/seduction14/08/22 12:58 AM
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One of the things I hear most often from this community is that you should do things for yourself and not to meet women, however I don't understand this. I thought alining my interests so that meeting women wouldn't mean that being rejected had to take center stage. I like being here, there's girls here anyway.etc. I don't get why its a bad thing to do things to meet women. I mean isn't that why dating apps are so popular? You use those specifically to meet women. I don't partake on internet dat…
/r/seduction14/08/22 12:46 AM
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I wouldn't think more of it than she was just interested in the actual zipper. Not what was behind it. Women are very concrete creatures. With that said, you could open "I like these pants, especially for the zipper." Or "Finding pants with a good zipper is rare."
/r/seduction14/08/22 12:06 AM
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When ever i see these posts I think that they need professional guidance, something that you won't get on Reddit. For example, I would just say go to a strip club with some friends and get over the stigma you have. But you probably need more guidance in terms of why you are stigmatized.
/r/seduction13/08/22 11:53 PM
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Are you not allowed to flirt with them? I used to be a barista and I was flirted with. They just drop hints. I wonder if they're conscious of it or if it's nervous behavior.
/r/seduction13/08/22 09:46 PM
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When guys have girls as friends, myself included, and she's single, it doesn't go on for long. Maybe a few months. Then they sleep together. If that doesn't happen then the same dynamic continues. I've studied "Chadism" for a few years now. I would say this is mostly true.
/r/seduction13/08/22 03:59 PM

Being friends with women is relative to how and where I know them. If I know her at school, that's all I know about her and we are just friends in this context. I don't know anything else about her. I don't hangout with them more if they are just friends, other than running into them at other social gatherings. If this is the kind of friendship, then i don't see why it would matter.
/r/seduction13/08/22 03:50 PM
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Hi this is my pet Chad. To play with him, you'll have to talk to me, first.
/r/seduction13/08/22 03:41 PM
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Knowing why you're doing something and prepared to do it. Additionally, how do you gain confidence? I educate myself and plan ahead, trying to visualize everything forward of me so that what I'm in pursuit of can be achieved. Usually it helps to have some goals in mind to help orient why I'm doing something.
/r/seduction13/08/22 03:30 PM
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Did you press your wang against her thigh, first? It would've made all the difference. Kissing is also a lot more personal than dry humping. There's more to consider, the covid scare, etc.
/r/seduction13/08/22 03:02 PM
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Do refrain. good call. Maybe you should ask your therapist because I'm thinking it's something that should remain between you and your therapist. Why mention it?
/r/seduction13/08/22 01:58 AM
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They don't want you to fall in love with them.
/r/seduction13/08/22 01:52 AM
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Like I said, thats my stance on it. I realize most people will downvote me on this sub. I'm not here to ridicule your choice in it, I happen to enjoy the music. If I thought I could only find skinny women at raves I would probably go, too. But I know that isn't true. Just don't get abducted and trapped in a drug den.
/r/seduction12/08/22 11:58 PM

I'm not one you should ask for advice, but if I could stop you from going I would tell you not to go. I don't like rave culture and what it leads people into. Mainly the drugs and the counterfeit. It's marketed that way, hook, line, and sinker. Think how different your life might be if you never went to a rave.
/r/seduction12/08/22 07:18 PM
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In general, Euro fashion is tighter. I started wearing less baggy clothes because they seem sloppy now. It's mainly the extra material around the calf, so I get slim fit which is actually the same as straight fit but it tapers from the knee down. Don't hug. It's not comfortable imo.
/r/seduction12/08/22 07:12 PM

Stoicism is effective in other situations. If a girl approaches and is very upbeat. I might join her energy level momentarily. I've been told I'm intimidating which had something to do with my hair. It made me look powerful in a stereotypical way. Like wearing a pin stripe suit every where i go. I wouldn't know that i was intimidating. Something that queued me in was when everyone in the room begins to look at me stoicly. So I changed the hair. Went for a phohawk instead.
/r/seduction12/08/22 06:47 PM
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No one thinks, "oh, she wore that blouse. Does it mean she's interested?" It's the same reasoning; don't put that much emphasis on her smile, it just assumes she's friendly and in a pleasant mood. In general, friendly is more approachable. Friendly doesn't equate to interested.
/r/seduction12/08/22 06:37 PM

Stoicism is good sometimes but if you really want to be approachable think sarcasm and fun, instead of cool and smooth. Cool and smooth is always too stoic.
/r/seduction12/08/22 06:29 PM
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Try to smile a bit. Not a grandiose smile but enough to raise your eyebrows some and curl your mouth upwards. Girls can be intimidating as much as guys. Guys just have to smile more.
/r/seduction12/08/22 06:26 PM
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I'd just be concerned about STDs, although it's probably more convenient than sex with strangers.
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:41 PM
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Ultimately, one woman, but have to date multiple women to get there. With the prevalence of STDs, it just makes sense to find a loyal sex partner.
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:36 PM
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You know better than I do. I'm thinking of the times I hold back my personality and become less exposed; it's a much more stale encounter.
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:19 PM
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Beyond that, I think some of these girls are what I would consider girlfriend material but they could never get beyond me talking to so many other women that the spark between us goes stale very soon. You approach based on what you are looking for in life.
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:24 AM

You probably noticed that you set a certain pace when you get her number that becomes a levi for how many women you can actually talk to and maintain that pace with. Some women won't want that; they perceived I talked to too many girls. That cuts off a big percentage. Usually, I just hone in on who is feeling me and going with it, especially if they are attractive. I think having twenty percent call back is ideal. That's like one in five that could safely be managed so you have a great experienc…
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:16 AM
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To be rejection proof you should establish some personal goals. Then actively pursue them. Approaching women should really be oriented so they suit your life and what you get from it, not just meeting a girl for meeting a girl. Then rejection is everything. So make a list of attainable goals, and begin achieving them. They can even be something to talk about with women that you meet. When girls pass you off, another way to see it is like they aren't actually in line with what you want in life an…
/r/seduction12/08/22 04:17 AM
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I say potential here, because being part of a couple is unrealised potential. I wanted to hear more about this.
/r/seduction12/08/22 04:05 AM
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Not what you think. You would get punched out of the trance, and only be able to percieve her making haste at the horizon of sex, leaving you epitomized like "what did I say?"
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:20 AM

How about being put in a trance to see a beautiful woman who flirts and sends all the right signals but in order to continue perceiving her you must remain hypnotized to stare at a man's cornhole. Then when you escalate to sex....
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:03 AM

I found interaction in person to be more raw and engaging than anything online.
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:46 AM
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Do you think she's just holding off and fawning so there's less social friction? She's actually likely to create a lot of attention for herself and who she speaks to if she opens up.
/r/seduction11/08/22 06:35 PM
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Humans are creatures of habits. I don't think you could read beyond a facial expression for more than just a friendly approach. You have to actually get her to reject you in the nicest way possible for it to really match the smirk she's made. Like say to yourself, don't smirk at me for no reason, give her a reason. I can't tell you specifics but it should seem easy going and pleasant.
/r/seduction11/08/22 06:31 PM
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People get nervous, and stay in what is called habitual conversation, where the purpose is more about feeling connected to others instead of actually knowing or experiencing each other. When that happens you have to move it forward or get off the phone. The good thing is that habitual conversation is easy to adapt into more meaningful or deliberate talk. You just have to take more initiative and not fear rejection. If you've handled rejection well, habitual conversation can continue with the tho…
/r/seduction11/08/22 06:23 PM

It didn't matter I was just watching the place, it's just a much better place than where most people have been. I think the girls actually feel honored for being there, like it's the better experience to have, a better story to share, and a better memory.
/r/seduction11/08/22 06:01 PM

I remember watching a friend's place for a week. It made a difference. It was a condo in a high-rise building. The girls I brought over were a lot more impressed by that than any car I've ever driven. Actually at that time, my car was a piece of crap. Sub-decent. I think they saw me as average then thought a lot more about it when we were going up the elevator. One girl even said in a joking way as we approached the door to the unit "you understand I want to f*ck you, now, right?" She couldn't b…
/r/seduction11/08/22 05:52 PM
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Don't forget to leave porn mags sprawled serendipitously across the back seat.
/r/seduction11/08/22 04:15 PM
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Gas lighting, starting a fight or argument, not responding for a long time. I don't really consider those tactics of seduction even though they might be the result, and they are manipulative to do. Thoughts and if anyone has more to add to the list. I think of date rape drugs or some other artificial way of changing the victims perception of who seduces them. Either choking free will or blinding it.
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:37 PM
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Being nice goes with the norm. I think of a prank. Like to get dates to ride with you, being super nice. Then release a bunch of raw anger at a traffic signal. Then immediately go back to being nice.
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:20 PM
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She's probably wants to go out again but wants you to anti up more. You probably have to take her on a fancier date, maybe buy her a dress and take her to some place to go ball room dancing, or something like that. You have to really cater to her as an interest by keeping connected with her via text. Should you ask her out again? Are you ready to take her out on a bigger date?
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:05 AM

These are very great priorities to keep in mind. I think on the topic of seduction, a man should first learn how to coast through life by getting what he wants with out having to exhert himself too much. For example, getting into a gym and getting better clothes isn't going to really require a person to exhert himself much more than just sticking to a routine. Meeting women, if you're to seduce, requires more effort, but being able to coast through life allows a man to choose his battles and pri…
/r/seduction10/08/22 11:45 PM
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It probably depends, but my experience was going earlier didn't really yield a decent crowd with enough women to make it worthwhile until about 11pm. When bringing friends go earlier.
/r/seduction10/08/22 06:45 PM
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In the very rare circumstances that men meet women, anywhere, and still waste time getting nowhere with them. Then see themselves months or years later without having accomplished something they've always wanted to do.
/r/seduction10/08/22 06:39 PM

Right, but then set an easier goal. Just get five women to reject you before you get another drink, something like that. At least you aline your expectations with meeting women instead of getting too faded. Suggestion: bar or club after 11pm, don't go too early.
/r/seduction10/08/22 06:39 PM

I don't make women the center piece of what I'm doing. I focus on my goals, and actually get more discouraged with myself if I don't achieve them. The women I meet should aline with those goals and my interests. Rejection happens; it's not such a big deal.
/r/seduction10/08/22 06:29 PM
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"Can I ask you a quick question?"
/r/seduction10/08/22 06:19 PM
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The better times are when she takes some initiative and genuinely wants to make me happy. If she has a hot body it's always better, but after being together for some time, there's less inhibition between us that makes it better as opposed to meeting someone new.
/r/seduction10/08/22 04:25 PM
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Like you don't have any gold or it's locked in a safe in another area. Then they just walk away. Maybe buy diamond earrings and keep them hidden in your room. Give them reason to stay around.
/r/seduction10/08/22 03:37 AM
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Maybe she's ovulating. Be patient.
/r/seduction10/08/22 03:34 AM
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Have you tried pressing your wang against her? It sounds rediculous but a necessary part of going with the flow.
/r/seduction10/08/22 03:30 AM
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Just having fun doesn't involve sex. Everything but sex... including whip cream and Cherries but still doesn't make it a Sunday.
/r/seduction10/08/22 01:46 AM
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Seconds long eye contact is usually not accidental. Three to four seconds is the sweet spot, then expect her to look away. Just a glance or even intentionally looking away is not a cue to approach. I don't put much weight on eye contact because in some places the environment is so active and full of people the only way to know is to speak anyway. Not a big thing.
/r/seduction10/08/22 01:14 AM
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I find saying 1000s of times "Good morning" to be more awkward Language can be habitual but that's the point there too. As for dating, I put forth a lot more effort and energy in dating to get quality results. It's like five to one, and out of those it's like every three is quality. If I really have the time and money it breaks down to 15 to one. Not saying it doesn't make sense. I'm saying that I have to filter through more people. Of course online there's no other way and you can filter much q…
/r/seduction10/08/22 12:00 AM

Falling short here, I wouldn't make excuses. Getting better job skills or even looking for where it is more affordable to live should follow some pattern of goal setting and execution.
/r/seduction09/08/22 07:19 PM
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Can a guy make a less conventionally masculine personality work for him? What tweaks should he make so that he still comes across as a sexual option? Typically, I would approach with the thought of being cool and smooth. This is the typical masculine approach but actually showing some enthusiasm for the person is a bit more effective in showing interest. It's like revealing an actual part of myself instead of just speaking through smooth, manly mannerisms. "Hello, it's great to finally meet you.…
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:32 PM

Being generically good looking isn’t enough. There are thousands upon thousands of clean cut, handsome men out there. Does your look have any edge to it, or do you just look like every other decent looking guy out there? Out of all, this is just it. I've even had women comment on this. They'd go out and meet a multitude of men and there wasn't that much aesthetically different about them. Specifically aimed at the guy that just stands in front of them smiling, nothing more. There's a basic found…
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:18 PM
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Then it's your heritage. Or you have a cousin you don't know about embarrassing your every move. I've been through something similar that stemmed from a rumor I was a dead beat.
/r/seduction09/08/22 03:06 PM
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Just work. When work is over ask her what she's doing. Then ask her if she wants to get together sometime after work. Personally, i don't even date from work but given your scenario, I would do it that way. It's really not that complicated.
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:49 AM
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If a girl talked to me for a short while, closed and said her goodbye, but then went and did the same thing over again with another guy in front of me it would devalue the encounter. I would think, oh maybe she's just skimming for my number. I think you should have some tact and go away or wait until she leaves until you start in with someone else especially if you really want her to have a good impression of you. Common sense.
/r/seduction09/08/22 01:14 AM
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I don't really text unless it's already confirmed. I mean I don't really text unless I've already spoken, and she's expecting me, like "hi I'm here." Otherwise I just call, but in your situation I don't know. I think I would wait to see.
/r/seduction09/08/22 12:53 AM

You already slept with her? When women have done that to me I just back off. If I've already been with her usually they are down to have fun again. My concern would be that's she's married or engaged to be married. Then she had to play it like nothing happened in front of her friends. Do you think that's what it is? I would definitely approach again, but just to say hello and then back off. If she makes eye contact with you and starts cuing you in, then definitely get off your but and talk to he…
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:14 PM
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The loft isn't a deal breaker as long as you keep your place clean and dec it out with some stuff you're interested in. No rodents or roaches and you will do good. I lived in a room with a loft, but there was plenty of other room to sit in, couch and some seats and desk with plenty of floor space. Then it had a latter that lead up above a vaulted ceiling where there wasn't much room for anything other than a bed and TV. There was limited head room, but it was a structural part of the house. My e…
/r/seduction08/08/22 07:50 PM
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No. Personal experience. Sure, doubt that I've been to a doctor and been told that it's a risk.
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:41 PM
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No sex on first date is good rule to uphold. Actually there's this scale of promiscuity based on various scenarios. One night stand: Basically meet the same night and have sex, and usually never see each other again. Health professionals frown upon this and I'd say a majority of people think it's not good. Sex on the first date: Not a one night stand, but it's like one knotch below the amount of risk. Obviously the longer you've known someone before you decide to go on a date the better. Is ther…
/r/seduction08/08/22 04:30 PM
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don’t have monotone energy. (You might be a natural low energy person but being monotone is a subtle way of saying, “I’m scared of expressing myself”) This might seem contradictory because being energetic is feminine energy. Being energetic is engaging and attracts women. In contrast, masculine energy is straight forward and dry. If you're dominant and energetic, then what? You get emasculated.
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:07 AM
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Would you say ten approaches in a week? Or does that seem low?
/r/seduction08/08/22 12:04 AM
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Given that testosterone fades off after thirty, I think men hit an intellectual prime in their mid thirties that they carry with themselves into their older age. Girls aren't as big a deal. The younger crowds are full of hype and gossip, and getting beyond that stage takes a bit of discipline if you crave sex all the time.
/r/seduction08/08/22 12:01 AM
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Try to socialize with other single men over twenty five under forty. I think you'll find you're not alone, and having some friends to be around keeps your mind from thinking that way.
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:54 PM
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You made a great point 👍
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:46 PM
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How many approaches do you do in a given week? Is there an ideal spot or activity to approach? Obviously you don't hang out at a train station. Give me a bit more insight.
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:42 PM
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How many approaches do you do in a given week?
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:39 PM
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I've learned that playing to my strengths is safe and conservative. However, I'm only going to meet people that are willing to break those boundaries to talk to me, first. That's why I only talk to people who talk to me first. I might actually keep meeting the same type of person until I pursue who I'd rather know in a more rational way. That's all it is really about for me. In fact, I have searched Reddit for a bit and on every question of the type "girls of reddit, do you like being approached…
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:31 PM
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I think the moron is the guy that would approach and have the balls to. In that situation, a parking garage at night, I'm more afraid of her. She could shoot me, and have someone clean it up for her.
/r/seduction07/08/22 06:46 PM
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I've been in a similar situation, and out of politeness I just don't stare. I think that's okay. It's just you recognizing what it is to be "sexually aware." The waitress was very sexually aware and knew how men react to her. Pay attention to when women aren't sexually aware because they still might do things that make you politely look away.
/r/seduction07/08/22 06:43 PM
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I'm a musician and I think in terms of playing music because life is full of patterns and obstacles as much as trying to learn a song on an instrument. I think if you approached women this way it would be like only learning one chord of a song, and not emphasizing the other chords. Obviously, there is much more to the song than the one chord. I think life is that way, including work or family, not just in interacting with strangers or meeting women. You might hit a bad note or really sound aweso…
/r/seduction07/08/22 06:31 PM
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It won't work if you calibrate to approaching a strange woman in a parking garage at night. Like you don't have a conscious? Wake up!!
/r/seduction07/08/22 05:24 PM
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I think of the fright or paranoia in a woman when she approaches her car in a parking garage at night. Who is the idiot that would still cold approach?
/r/seduction07/08/22 05:09 PM
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I think of the guy that sits on the same corner all afternoon, or cold approaches for the majority of his day out of the same area, is going to be at issue. If you go to a mall, at least be a customer of the mall, and I would think only really take up enough time to do what I need, and maybe approach some people in that time frame. Spending the whole day at the mall just to approach is going to be off-putting to business owners who also happen to be women who will complain.
/r/seduction07/08/22 05:07 PM
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To elaborate: I've been facing off with some difficult problems. These problems give rise to other situations and encounters with people that I would never have to deal with. It isn't their fault these problems are happening to me. They are a passive nuisance, as opposed to a direct or active nuisance. Example, a credit card was forged, and now this person is here. Without the forgery, this person goes away. This person, however, has nothing to do with forgery. It is just a matter of causation t…
/r/seduction07/08/22 04:07 PM
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My Mom laughs at this too. That's good enough for me.
/r/seduction07/08/22 12:27 AM
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That's a great point 👍
/r/seduction07/08/22 12:00 AM
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Do you see it like she's going to keep talking to you at your door despite other people you meet and eventually bring over? I would just want to insulate my dating life from that likelihood. Being friends is cool, like in some roomate situations. Your dates that you get home with you, they might say "who's that?" If you haven't embarked at all, it shows in the way people are greeted. Or..... You embark on it but maybe won't see another woman for six months until the lease is up.
/r/seduction06/08/22 11:36 PM
2

Screen her back but put it on your terms. Don't waste each other's time. If you're wanting head on the fourth date while driving out of state, then you owe them the respect of not wasting their time if that's nothing they're ever going to consider with you. To some degree repeated tests is off-putting so maybe just ask her, cut to the chase because there isn't anything that I'm asking of you or that I'm going to make you do if you aren't wanting to. Line yourself with the most extreme expectatio…
/r/seduction06/08/22 11:15 PM
1

What about it being all relative. Then the more attractive the crowd, hence the same game applies. You dress up, look good, maybe are actually up above the eighty to ninety percentile in looks. Then the crowd scales up too, and I find I'm still averaged because all the guys have similar style and apart from having modeled features, i don't actually stand out as more attractive. Go to a dive bar. Save my stuble, wear my old jacket with my pimp shirt I've had since college, I can usually play the …
/r/seduction06/08/22 10:27 PM
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I must be spoiled then.
/r/seduction06/08/22 10:18 PM
2

Just lower your voice. Visualize you're a basketball player. When everyone is getting all uppity, especially when some dramatizing is going on, just say "Could you please lower your voice." As deeply as you could say.
/r/seduction06/08/22 10:16 PM
1

I'm trying to approach this modestly. It's because I've worked on my appearance more recently as well, but it still takes some effort to get out there and get known. The ladies don't flock like they used to. That has more to do with my age than anything. It's this lack of father/daughter relations that wafes through the alley ways of the night life I frequent. The guys are much older and the women are just starting out. I just see it like it's potentially gapped for that reason. The people more …
/r/seduction06/08/22 10:06 PM
4

On the contrary, I'm an energetic guy that has managed being quiet in order for it to work for me. Honestly, it really sucks. I don't want attention right now.
/r/seduction06/08/22 07:28 PM
2

I would think that your behavior wasn't entirely off base, but that given the projection of what is to come, you probably owed her a token of gratitude to show you didn't mean to behave that way. Like "sorry for caring....but..."etc. "get me a drink...." getting her a drink shouldn't really be taken as "kiss my toes", but it's saying more to you if you endure a path of forgiveness instead of a path of suspicion. I'd say she wanted in again up to this point. Learn from it because if you run into …
/r/seduction06/08/22 06:46 PM
2

Center yourself and your motives. Don't get lost in tangents that are off base or don't fall in line with your goals and your motivation. Be aware of the seeds of doubt: manipulation, selfishness and meekness. Don't doubt yourself or your goals, especially as a cost of being more attractive to her. Don't give into arguments or justifications, or more self validation through speaking. It is better to just listen. If anything you speak to reinforce yourself as someone who is "winning" in life, whi…
/r/seduction06/08/22 06:08 PM
1

This is just me thinking like a heavier version of myself. Find a heavier girl that wouldn't mind sharing some fitness goals with you.
/r/seduction06/08/22 04:09 PM
3

Having a vocabulary is good, but to really build excitement you should study this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/The48LawsOfPower/comments/st4lrn/how_to_become_charismatic_and_master_the_charmer/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share It discusses the emotional journey that charismatic people take us on when they speak. That building excitement is probably some emotional based communication skill that engages with your date. Stay away from reciting facts and instead relive those moments as you …
/r/seduction06/08/22 02:58 PM
1

I guess I have sex appeal because I don't think it's that complicated. Complexity... it's unappealing.
/r/seduction06/08/22 02:49 PM

I know thats the written definition but i think it actually hides the truth. I think it refers to the online and chat room scenarios that weak men organize the use of a drug or "pill" to gain the result of a stronger man. Essentially ripping off stronger men for their lives. Ei, Outgoing man meets outgoing girl, and lead an outgoing lifestyle that is far beyond the capacity of most chat room men. They "pill" the lifestyle and relive these moments of the outgoing couple, as fantasies that come to…
/r/seduction06/08/22 02:47 PM
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Consider how much alcohol was involved. Good friends don't let friends f*ck drunk.
/r/seduction06/08/22 02:32 PM
1

No
/r/seduction06/08/22 02:23 PM
1

Having cold approached in the past, I'm sure I'm a lot more nuerotic than what would seem normal, but I don't really think of myself as neurotic. I think of it like my nuerons and anxiety receptors are all so numbed by public exposure that the result is that I don't feel any nerves, which most people probably experience some level of anxiety or elevated awareness while they are in public. Neurotic behavior is toxic, but approaching women isn't that toxic. It really depends on the occasion and wh…
/r/seduction06/08/22 04:43 AM
6

Then shorten your flow. Less is more when talking.
/r/seduction06/08/22 04:24 AM
2

Bring bubbles....They are instant fun for anyone
/r/seduction06/08/22 04:23 AM
1

Seems like sound advice. It's not a place I prefer to be either. Before, I was sometimes invited to parties because I could invite girls over. That's when I think friendzone is more of a cumulative thing when it comes to knowing or engaging with women. Then they want in, and have a go at my friends. Then it's the ideal social. It's funner and sometimes they see more in me because of the friends I actually have. I'm not such a dog, or egomaniac. If friendzoned, I don't ask to hang out or say hell…
/r/seduction06/08/22 02:20 AM
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As a subreddit to this. As time progresses and more dates occur, it's usually about one month to three months of dating the same person, out of many others before anything escalates to sex. How does that compare? I'm not including warm approach at bars/clubs.
/r/seduction06/08/22 01:27 AM

Internet based first dates should be brief and at a common place. 15 to 30 min at a coffee or juice venue. Actually, I would even make an itinerary for second and third dates as it pertains to what I want after the initial screening date. Mainly, I just see they aren't super into drugs or just walking off the avenue to join me. That seems fair, right? No. Then no fancy feast for me. Tell her, hey that's sounds great but could we meet up before hand. Then suggest a place for a brief encounter day…
/r/seduction06/08/22 12:50 AM
3

Past thirty and into forty, women are man eaters and will devour men's souls if just for the satisfaction of knowing it ruined a moment between you and your date. They won't let you be happy, and they will crush any love life of yours in succession of their own interests. When it's about money, you have to be as tactical as a green beret. One woman has the capacity to become a seven headed monster, with different memories, and different history, and personalities. Throw a baby in the mix and you…
/r/seduction05/08/22 11:18 PM
3

I think you have to take her somewhere private. I don't like getting too physically involved beyond "on a date" type touching or holding signals.
/r/seduction05/08/22 05:12 PM
3

Kiss her neck first. Don't go for it, yet. Was it private?
/r/seduction05/08/22 05:07 PM
3

Cuckolding is immensely devastating to the family structure and embarrassing to the male victim given the information age we live in today. Part of this is because it's easily detected with the right tools.
/r/seduction05/08/22 04:44 PM
1

When I see a hot chick and get to know her some, it's an immediate turn off if she smokes cigarettes. I'd have to drink four beers before I'm attracted to her again.
/r/seduction05/08/22 04:36 PM
2

Having a proactive mindset over a reactive mindset also keeps things moving and your thinking in a positive direction. It doesn't matter what you are doing in life.
/r/seduction05/08/22 03:09 PM
2

Do what works for you, but maybe the thought of changing up your strategy is so you attract a different variety of women. I play to my strengths. Those strengths usually get me similar results. I usually see similar types of women and have the same core group of friends. If I kept failing in life because I only attracted a certain type of woman, then I would think I have to do more than just play to my strengths.
/r/seduction05/08/22 04:32 AM
2

I don't know where you're from but I think gaming on girls at work is tired. A lot of times it's the guys with an inflated sense of self worth. It's just that work is a commonality. You can't actually over step seniority or outshine your boss. This is a cardinal rule where I'm from.
/r/seduction05/08/22 04:06 AM
4

In Reddit years.
/r/seduction05/08/22 03:55 AM
2

No read, no signal = no interest. I really don't give it more thought than that. No biggie. The other side of that token is to expect that some social interaction is going to occur, like she will say hi or send signals because she wants in. When she has no interest, I think the pressure is off. I can just walk past her. The active interaction is very baseline. No one cares. It goes into the passive and active social behaviors which is a different subject, but it's something I've been learning to…
/r/seduction05/08/22 03:24 AM
7

Gross...
/r/seduction05/08/22 01:44 AM
9

If I'm leaving all my worries behind, I wouldn't bring up anything that would evoke worry. I would tell funny stories, interesting ones that are full of adventure.
/r/seduction05/08/22 12:39 AM
1

I see. That's sounds like a serious problem.
/r/seduction04/08/22 11:26 PM
1

Focus on your core motives.
/r/seduction04/08/22 10:58 PM
10

manipulation, selfishness and meekness. The seeds of doubt.
/r/seduction04/08/22 10:50 PM
1

Kick a ball over the fence. That should get things rolling.
/r/seduction04/08/22 05:56 PM
1

Don't push your luck. Be a mutual friend and try to have fun. If that means asking her out, just to have fun and not be remotely serious about it, then you might have a foot in the door when she's over her problem. With some grown up perspective and encouragement, I'd rather be focused more on my future. What we characterize as relationships at this age shouldn't weigh on our thoughts as much as they did. No one is sharing finances and no one lives together. I don't know what age group you are n…
/r/seduction04/08/22 02:42 PM
2

This is a great come back. How does one instill this advice if it's such a powerful stigma they've had to carry through their adult life?
/r/seduction04/08/22 04:22 AM
3

What do you do that is considered flirtatious? Remember that movie "the 40 year old virgin" He just repeats what she says back to her. You can't go wrong.
/r/seduction04/08/22 04:02 AM
1

Avoid the wrap with kids. Ask anyone. It's like feeling ashamed if she turned out to be a man cause you met online. Why would that be on you? That's her life. It's shouldn't effect you or your future. If it does, f tinder, I would agree.
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:50 AM
1

It's risk versus reward. What is at risk? Months of work, privacy, secrecy and the intelligence that follows. What is the reward? Maybe she likes me. So on that note, going for the close isn't really in balance. There was an earlier question that asked about acceptance vs superficial. If I wanted to keep my walls up and lose my worries for a while I would probably opt to go where people meet more superficially. There might be no expectations of seeing each other again, or at least not so persona…
/r/seduction04/08/22 01:54 AM
1

I think that having a good friendship like that is good but if you really wanted to move forward you would get physically involved. Without the actual intamacy there's no avenue for her to actually develop any feelings beyond the same level of interest that she might've had back when you first met. It's still very uncharted, from what it sounds like.
/r/seduction04/08/22 01:17 AM
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The tendency is to get stuck in debate mode, where outside of any context, tends to push people away or I alienate myself. I've caught myself on this and I think, I'm not trying to win simpathy. But that's what happens. People, especially women will feel sorry for me but it's just some socially acceptable way of handling difficult subject matter. They aren't that simpathetic at all. Then I could understand why her nipples weren't hard, but I would probably want to back out the discussion and sti…
/r/seduction03/08/22 11:55 PM
0

What about the thought of spoiling the innocent? They are young, tender, and fresh. Not evil, yet. If I could just preserve them as that innocent for as long as possible or allowable, I would leave it alone. Let them learn and explore.
/r/seduction03/08/22 11:43 PM
1

Does she have an interest in cat food? Does she eat cat food? Maybe that's her thing. Ask her that way instead.
/r/seduction03/08/22 11:29 PM
2

You should see it through the party with the one that you're already sleeping with. Or... Your looking at completely severing yourself from her at a chance at possibly, maybe, if you're lucky, getting with the other 2nd girl while she's totally understanding of your behavior regarding last weekend sitting in the same room with you. Sometimes you assume more than what you already have.
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:53 PM
1

I would only date foreign if they open up and talk with me and actually want to. Do you ever feel like she's just sitting in and throwing her line like "okay, talk to me"...and then you go down the same road with her as the conversation fizzles. It isn't really typical, but at some point I ask myself how much do I want to vest myself before she ever comes around. It seems shady, but that's why.
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:49 PM

Smile: not a huge grandiose smile, but enough to show you are friendly. Don't go for cool and mysterious poker face. That works in a club, not here. You would look like a gangsta. Direct unwavering eye contact: Don't look around or at her body. Look at her eyes, because it's the most telling of how your making her feel when you approach. They should be smiling back and warm. If they are sitting, sit with them, or kneel so you are at eye level. Don't be over bearing. Stand at arms length which is…
/r/seduction03/08/22 06:47 PM
3

Do they tell you your a creep? Or this is something you feel that they are thinking. You could say, you make me nervous. If I were going to approach I would just tell her as I said Hello. Even try take a deep breath and maybe even exaggerate nervous body language for a moment. Then immediately calm down. As if to kid yourself that you are too nervous to just talk to her. It's not like you're so nervous you pick your nose as a nervous habit. You might be doing something when you're nervous that i…
/r/seduction03/08/22 06:05 PM

I would just try to interpret it differently. When someone passively bothers me, it's up to me to resolve what it is without disrupting them directly. It's not their fault they bother me. If they bother me in a more direct way, then I'm much more direct about it. I think being nervous and anxious is because of a stigma you have. You should go to a strip club, or get a prescription to lower your anxiety. I don't know enough about you, but your problem is a common one on these boards.
/r/seduction03/08/22 03:28 PM
2

Women aren't actually that complicated. Men tend to draw from abstraction which is like adding more meaning or significance to her than she's aware of. You should just make a move and find that usually women will go with it even if they don't really have feelings for you. It might take her a day to realize how she really feels, if anything. Try kissing on a first date within the first five minutes. She'll go along with it and probably think differently like it was too soon or awkward, but she st…
/r/seduction03/08/22 06:18 AM
2

I'd take my shirt off and start "going to bed" . You should always take more initiative, but given it was not actually your bedroom then you have to stand down. If she were at your place then she shouldn't be in your bedroom if that was her attitude.
/r/seduction03/08/22 01:19 AM
19

It's your call, but that wouldn't be my first choice. I think I would go with someone I'm more familiar with or just go by myself.
/r/seduction02/08/22 11:53 PM
3

You haven't even tried. Don't think too much on it and just go tell her you want to go out sometime.
/r/seduction02/08/22 08:43 PM
0

Getting together again with out creating more for me to deal with as an individual can be challenging. These kind of women tend to attract a lot more attention. If anything, one discrete hookup is all I could really get out of this level of play. I think that's really something that should be emphasized; be discrete.
/r/seduction02/08/22 04:39 PM
1

It's not a waste of time if that's all there is and warm approach isn't available or happening. A cold room scenario. Warm approach is more effective and more efficient. Cold approach is a crap shoot but not completely pointless. Sometimes you have to make it happen for yourself, and the universe is not always in your favor. On that note: Some women are frauds and fakes. It would be short sighted to overlook the fact that some people, men included, are con artists. Know that trickery and decepti…
/r/seduction02/08/22 04:19 PM
1

This one is going into my archives.
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:37 AM
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Her change of clothes and all her toys. She'll never miss a beat.
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:31 AM
1

Because.....
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:23 AM
1

Boner... As in "Hi, I have a boner..." Whats so difficult?
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:17 AM
2

Dating is accepting when times are tough and a lot of people are identifiably in the same situation. Dating is more superficial on a vacation or holiday when people just want to have fun and forget their worries.
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:07 AM
6

It's a lot like having a birthday cake when you were a kid. You get all this attention and everyone is cheering for you. It's not like it's that way all the time and sometimes it's someone else getting all the attention. There's very little that I do differently, but I think of the situations in the past where I really toned things down in front of my colleagues that were women. I really kept things professional. I don't think they ever saw that side of me, and it's not like good people need be …
/r/seduction02/08/22 04:06 AM
7

Assuming she's not gonna go ninja on me and spy off a telegraph and keep me monitored for my grandkids, I try to be honest. Cold souless creatures need not apply.
/r/seduction02/08/22 02:04 AM
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Meet for dinner...grab wine, rent movie, and go to my place. Ideally in the same night and in the same neighborhood. Son stays home. She should bring her sex bag with her. If she doesn't bring her sex bag then just have dinner and think that she wasn't really intending to.
/r/seduction01/08/22 11:44 PM
1

I don't think anything merits that kind of hostility. Especially if you're just trying to meet people. I think it's important to not loose touch with how real people actually interact, aside from using content or social media outlets.
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:23 PM
2

99% of the time I would just say "I can respect that"...and close my conversation. If I have enough rapport with her, and she's still fun to be around, more like a platonic friend, then I ask about her friends.
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:18 PM
1

If I had to dodge a disrespectful person.
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:01 PM
0

In that very very rare circumstance it's really about the value of the situation. It's not like you're buying her, but if you could just talk to her and get her interested, they don't want to be an open door, easy, or cheap. You need to spend some money to really earn her interest. If you feel the value exceeds her level of interest then it isn't worth it or she's probably not that interested in you. I typically avoid these encounters anyway, most women don't actually abide by some high standard…
/r/seduction01/08/22 06:26 PM
3

It's too vague, you need to be more specific. Maybe it's your writing style, I'm trying to understand what your question is.
/r/seduction01/08/22 06:15 PM
0

An Abundance mindset has its faults. It means seeing a person and how they fit into your life over the long run, and because they don't fit this perception of what you believe your life will be like, you go out with another person, and another, and another... because there are so many different ways your life can go, and there's an abundance of choices. It's a fault because you don't just settle on one and build your relationship together.
/r/seduction01/08/22 06:09 PM
0

I'll handle this... I've lived a very full life and Ive been spoiled probably more so than everyone on this thread combined. When I get in a slump, no one wants to listen to me. But I do know what I'm talking about. Seeing as I'm in a slump because I'm pried upon, I'm more like James Bond than I'd ever need to be otherwise. I resent the attitude that I've never had to deal with or been confronted with scandalous women from other governments, and inside our own domestic institutions.
/r/seduction01/08/22 03:14 PM
24

I would just be honest, but I haven't had an older woman ask my age since college.
/r/seduction01/08/22 03:37 AM
29

I don't really bring up age. If they seem older I would just roll with it. How much older? What's the difference in age? It shouldn't really matter.
/r/seduction01/08/22 03:10 AM
2

I increased my assertiveness by setting goals and keeping a positive outlook towards achieving them. It's important that they be attainable goals and they are goals that you set for yourself. These aren't goals that someone else is telling you. If I were to adapt this philosophy to going to a night club, I would probably tell myself something like this: An attainable goal would be to approach five different women and just say hello and introduce myself before I buy another drink. Don't buy anoth…
/r/seduction01/08/22 02:03 AM
1

Trying to be funny isn't the same as trying to meet someone, imo.
/r/seduction31/07/22 10:58 PM
3

It's possible for the 5 to 7 girls to improve into 8/9. Sometimes if they just tried harder, they can look way better. Not every girl is going to put themselves on that way. Maybe you should ask them to try to look like your fantasy women. If you date a person long enough sometimes they end up becoming hotter than when you first met them. I've been down that road and I tell myself it doesn't matter, but it does make a difference.
/r/seduction31/07/22 09:19 PM
1

I don't really notice that much difference on an individual basis. My approach is pretty much the same. The only thing I might do differently is tone down my jokes when I approach non-white culture. I think it's seen more like a wise ass, and less mature. I only really flirt with "hot" women.
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:57 PM
2

They call that a third-party pitch but there's more to it than what you're describing. If she over heard you talking about her to her friend, it supposed to be more believable than if you told her directly.
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:34 PM

First and foremost have fun, in fact I used to be very open, too. I just reserve kissing as something I do when it's more private. Wait til your shirt is all messed up with lip stick and you can't get away. Everyone knows you from this girl you kissed. That's what made me change.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:52 PM

Girls just go through the motions. They might kiss because it's the thing to do. They don't want to be put on display or feel like kissing is just showing off the dude they just met. Avoid showboating. Unless they want to... Just understand it's really just showboating, to make you look cool. She's marking her turf in that sense. I wouldn't really kiss a girl until towards the end of the night. Not a full on make out kiss, either. Save that for when it's more private.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:40 PM
1

I had already met her, we already went out a couple times. Then she went back to where she came from. It was okay to call. It was ages ago. I had just graduated college. I met her on a plane after visiting my brother. She was the most awesome person I ever experienced at this age. But it was short lived. We were too far apart.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:22 PM
1

I sent a couple different emails. Then I called on the weekend, like after a Friday night out. Called her on Saturday morning. Just to say hello. I don't really remember. It was a while ago. Eventually, I met up with her and that was pretty much it.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:16 PM
1

Women can be chill and relaxed just like your bros. They may not always "have feelings" for you.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:09 PM
1

I remember when I got all sprung on this girl. We kept in touch for about a month until I was able to visit again. I probably wouldn't option to do that again but it was fun for the moment.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:01 PM
3

Keep it in perspective. There are other things that weigh on my mind more so than going out and meeting women. Meeting women isn't really a life skill that's going to guide you through tougher decisions as you get older. It's just social skills that afford more opportunity. The regret is not leaving a negative situation sooner. The feeling I've wasted my time with negative people. It's a learning experience, and I learn what to avoid and how to overcome it. There's nothing wrong with being alone…
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:58 PM
1

I can empathize. I would try to change my outlook and my thinking about value. Sometimes you have to Zen out, like you are actually underwater and a wave of crap is washing over you. Lower expectation, and instead build experience. You can't do the same thing over and over and expect a different result. I would do something different.
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:20 PM
2

Get a job. Get an income. I wouldn't get ahead of myself on that. Just focus on getting a job that is conveniently located. Worry about that other stuff in stride.
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:12 PM
1

Having the gumption to open is the hard part. From there it's just a matter of being fluid with what you say. Talk about familiar subjects, stay away from obscurity. They are just getting to know you. Try wearing cologne? The way you describe it would confuse me too. I think do i smell? Booger in my nose? I remind her of her father?
/r/seduction31/07/22 02:50 PM
5

I use visualization to get out of an introverted social pattern. I try to visualize myself in a more comfortable place, like my living room, and these are my guests. I really want them to relax and have a good time. I call it "schmoozing" the crowd. "Filter off" works to get things started. You don't really want to hold back. I try to be thoughtful as opposed to provoking. Less is more in this sense.
/r/seduction31/07/22 02:36 PM
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I think she has to be fond of you, for her heart to grow fonder. I have never experienced anything like that, only one woman has ever driven across town because she was fond of me and I don't know if that was a good thing for her to do.
/r/seduction31/07/22 01:56 PM
1

The ten rated female is like approaching a ten story building with all the intel and bios to lock down a three block area.
/r/seduction31/07/22 05:44 AM
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Assuming it's not a third-world country, you should be able to pull women by simply walking into a bar. Yeah, her friends cock block, but that's what pizza is for. You've seen "Great moments in hook-up history" ?
/r/seduction31/07/22 05:35 AM
1

The asshole types are the dudes who may not do anything other than just comment on me because I have a soft appearance and do well with women. You just have to ignore the egos. Its not very often that it would happen but sometimes I would run into an envious crowd of onlookers, but it's because they weren't me and I was actually doing well with these women. They get jealous like they don't believe it's real. They could do better...etc. I really don't know how to handle that but in that situation…
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:25 PM

That's not anything to really get upset about. The guy probably had more experience than you and you can't fault him for that. If you took it up with him, you would look like an ass. It's better to just not hesitate with the girls, and try to stay in the moment with each passing breath. That could be all the difference that night.
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:14 PM
1

I'm going to say no, women aren't attracted to that stuff. As a guy, I really don't like girls who involve themselves in criminal behavior or have dated criminals. They tend to attract each other. The majority of people would avoid those circumstances. I guess it's disruptive to be known by people in jail no matter how innocent you are. Girls hate that stuff. Having had this discussion recently, the girls weren't happy that they could be hounded by inmates simply because they dated someone who w…
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:02 PM

Read up on masculine and feminine energy. Masculine energy is primarily task oriented. Feminine energy is about interconnection. Something else I've noticed is that male pattern communication is mellow and even key. Usually a group of guys can hangout and there's not a huge disparity in emotions. Competition ensues, like feets of strength or wits but everyone can usually maintain friendship. While female pattern communication is provoking and enthusiastic. Females compete much differently as a g…
/r/seduction30/07/22 10:33 PM
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I generally meet women five to ten years younger just because of the demographics. There's biases, too. Some women grow into despondent nags that I wouldn't want to be around, while others are single moms. I think women with kids grow into better people because they have a purpose and nuturing aspect about themselves, especially if their kids are a priority. They are more stable and better to be around than drug addicted skim artist trying to look younger than they are. My preference is for sing…
/r/seduction30/07/22 10:09 PM

Visualization is key in creating success for oneself. I think beginners or anyone wanting to improve should really visualize who they want to be, and outfit themselves with goals that solidify the actions that they take to progress and grow. With that mindset in front, dating becomes more an archetype for who really fits into your life and whether they match who you want to become. Most people would struggle if just to become an archetype on how to meet women if they didn't also aline themselves…
/r/seduction30/07/22 09:58 PM
1

I think the term is "a marriage of convenience". They are both benefitting in some way outside of traditional matrimony. It might be more convenient to structure their lives around his wealth and her beauty. Love may have little to do with it from the start.
/r/seduction30/07/22 08:18 PM
2

I've been in a similar seat before. If you can't choose, then keep your options open. I wouldn't commit to either, but then consider who would really be available if you wanted to just have fun or be full on committed. It's probably too early to say. You still have to meet the woman thats considerable older than you who will take you to the moon and back. You could get off that ride now, or keep going.
/r/seduction30/07/22 08:15 PM
3

In the end, the convenience of partnership is more costly to both.
/r/seduction30/07/22 08:00 PM

The more you do something the better you get at it. I partly disagree with 4. Maybe you should elaborate. I think your emotional state is completely up to you barring some exceptional crisis. What you put out is what you get back, and really it is about self control and emotional intelligence. Moment to moment does matter because the more moments you have with someone, the more those moments tie together the whole of the experience. The happier and more enthusiastic you appear, the more people a…
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:58 PM
7

Very wise read. Money changes everything. In some ways the lifestyle makes them a target. Maybe he was the gardner as a disguise, and the press couldn't crack it. So, it inevitably reports she cheated.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:42 PM
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What are the warning signs? You have to measure risk vs reward: The risk of having a stalker chick know you against how rewarding it would be to actually get with her? It seems like you would avoid what you're not attracted to anyway and not expose yourself for the sake of improving your confidence.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:37 PM
1

I think sometimes it looks like a shy posture if I don't dance, so if she pressed against me to dance she would find that I wasn't that shy and probably regret getting more than what she bargained for.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:32 PM
0

I wouldn't read into it too much. I can understand if someone doesn't like me for whatever ill perception they have, but they shouldn't be flatlining my game from meeting other people and moving on.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:30 PM
1

As a subreddit to this. My life since college has been grand but given the public domain afforded to ongoers at school, I partly wonder if it would be better to keep a lower profile at school. Maybe only connect with classmates in the same major or field of study.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:27 PM
4

I was like you at twenty-one. First, don't hover over them when you talk. Try to sit down with them if they are sitting. In academia most people are actually that approachable if just say hi, do you mind if I sit with you for a second.... They were also easier to stop if they were walking past, just to say hi, wait, can I ask you something... Really not that difficult once you get over the hype. Keep eye contact with them. Don't be afraid to blink, but you really need to see them in the eyes, it…
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:16 PM
15

At this age I was numb to girls at work. She would have to invite me with her to go shopping for langerie and show me what she tries on. Then I would think, "oh, she's not just being nice cause I work with her."
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:11 PM
3

Actually girls are a lot more concrete than you would think. Men draw more abstraction to their concreteness because of the influence of testosterone. There should be more taught about the influence of testosterone on your perception and how it effects men emotionally because these are usually feelings or perceptions that women tend to remain more concrete about.
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:19 PM
1

I think i need an example of the sabatoge that you do to yourself. Or what is a typical pattern that you see in yourself. If you think that it's too personal, then don't.
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:13 PM
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Be home by 9pm... Or 10pm...
/r/seduction30/07/22 04:37 PM
8

Girls need to get out and have fun and feel adventurous. I would worry about their safety more so than be jealous. I would think depending on how late, call at some point like at midnight just as a courtesy. While they're out, I would have a guy's night in with the place to ourselves. She wouldn't want me to get too lonely, I would start chewing on things and digging through the trash. I would let her know that I become feril without her around. My experience had always been that my girlfriends …
/r/seduction30/07/22 04:36 PM
1

I don't like to dance. I think when I dance it actually takes me down a knotch. So when girls do that in front of me, as you described, I usually just bob my head to the rhythm and watch. I resist the urge to jump in and dance. I remember one time, she just turned and started dancing with me against the wall like that. Then I had to dance. If I had to do it over, I would make her regret dancing with me.
/r/seduction30/07/22 04:03 PM
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I'd say after about twenty five it's basically the same. With age there's less and less opportunity unless I date younger as opposed to my own age. That's the biggest difference.
/r/seduction30/07/22 03:56 PM
1

This is something that should be talked about more; you could probably get prescribed something that keeps you calm and able to focus. There's at least two brands that come to mind. Nothing to be ashamed of, hopefully it gets your head out of the rut. Totally what it's for. I'm anti pill in my approach to therapy especially since you can function. Imagine people so fear struck they can't leave their house. If you can leave your house then you could go to a strip club with some friends and probab…
/r/seduction30/07/22 03:09 PM
3

Visualize you have a million dollars in your bank account. Make it happen.
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:29 AM
36

I think it was the letting her tounge down your throat. I have to go now, too.
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:20 AM
4

Honestly, not that often as of late. I'm in a position where I'd rather not attract too much attention to myself. Some of that is because I'm in a smaller town, and some of that is because I need to stay focused on what's happening around me. I reserve my game for the bars because they are warmer environments to meet people, but then I've limited myself from those activities lately, too. I kind of have a been there, done that outlook. It's not necessarily a priority at the moment. The foot traff…
/r/seduction29/07/22 11:25 PM
4

I know it seems counter intuitive but before you bite down and ask her out, you should withdraw from her. If she's attracted to you she'll ask you what's up. It could take a week or so, maybe longer. I would definitely withdraw physically. I don't always do this but if things escalate between us, yet we aren't kissing or really touching at all, until one day we start being physical, I would withdraw so it's easier to see where I stand. Girls do that, where they tell me up front that we're just f…
/r/seduction29/07/22 08:10 PM
1

Sounds believable to me.
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:51 PM
1

I'm usually trying to balance between keeping properly groomed and not looking too feminine in the process. I'm shedding my baggy clothes because they look sloppy. Not much else needs improvement.
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:32 PM
1

I've been on both sides of that. If I knew then, what I know now.
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:25 PM
-1

Because they answered all your texts? I would think that if she was texting me, and as emasculating as it seems to just write texts back and forth, that eventually when we do date, i can restore my masculinity by kissing her.
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:20 PM
0

Having been in a similar situation I think maybe I don't want to invest in this if she isn't ready for sex. A month isn't that long, but it depends on her, if you like her enough, you would invest the time. You might consider allowing her to explore what you enjoy from her instead. I actually don't go for shy types. I like openess and readiness.
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:17 PM

Safety and security. The person or place that provides for them. Usually a boyfriend but sometimes a guy they hang around when they need to feel safe and not alone. I think this is something more women contend with as they get older. The hype and excitement fades, and their friends lead busier lives. They are more opt to feel alone unless they depend on someone.
/r/seduction29/07/22 05:55 PM

What you're describing isn't that common. Women want adventure but they won't sacrifice their safety net.
/r/seduction29/07/22 05:52 PM
3

"Hi... remember me. What's been going on. I was dumb. I didn't mean to play with your feelings or come off like a jerk. I was really having a lot of fun with you, but I didn't have the experience with dating to really be upfront with you when I should. " Then I would probably let her vent some or forgive me. But eventually express interest in hanging out or dating again.
/r/seduction29/07/22 05:43 PM
1

That's not therapeutic. Wait I see.... yeah... motorboat women in a bar. Bring a towel.
/r/seduction29/07/22 05:06 PM
2

This reminds me of when I went to the DMV with a suit on. I thought, "why is everyone looking at me?" "Because you went to the DMV with a suit on."
/r/seduction29/07/22 03:18 PM
1

Titty bar therapy might help you get passed these difficulties. I've seen a lot of men your age turn their whole attitude around with titty bar therapy.
/r/seduction29/07/22 01:45 PM
1

I wouldn't put as much emphasis on getting their numbers as much as just having a good interaction with them. If you have to part, exchange numbers. Maybe drunk text later...
/r/seduction29/07/22 01:31 PM
2

It's intriguing but I withdraw and think I shouldn't approach that way. My walls go up and then I don't trust who they are. Mysterious = shady. It's something I learn to identify right away. Then I don't have to deal with the backbiting that follows.
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:44 AM
4

Going to my place is closer. Going to my place is private. Going to my place is relaxing. She is conscious of her decisions and mutually involved; wants to come over.
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:37 AM
3

Women as a network sometimes base their partnership on the potential of the person they are with. They screen through hundreds of men, all great people, but the potential isn't there. They see the man for who he could be, not what he is. He could be a lot more (to her) if he settled down her way. She's able to network and predict that outcome to some extent based on dating profiles and what ever other data is available to them. What makes him not want to commit? Men have lost their potential and…
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:20 AM

Mysterious, to me, is when someone isn't who they appear to be. It doesn't really work for me. I'm still trying to figure that out. I get preoccupied with who I thought they were. It's usually when I first meet someone and attempt to go beyond superficial hello/good bye.
/r/seduction29/07/22 05:17 AM
0

When the dating experts explain that women are attracted to men that polarize the room it's because they are letting the male set the tone and the depth on what to talk about. You should probably talk about something deep, or beyond the mundane, first. Don't drone on about yourself, just talk about something you're interested in. Like where you'll be in five years, with a cyborg girlfriend who cooks, and cleans. Then when she tries to add her point of view, tell her "hold on, I'm not finished." …
/r/seduction29/07/22 04:18 AM
2

I would reapproach the same night, especially if you are at the same bar. I've gotten numbers that way, too, but unless I go somewhere from the bar with them, even as a group, then I rarely hear back from them.
/r/seduction29/07/22 02:22 AM
10

Something to consider, because some girls at work actually mentioned that they flirt towards the guys just to know that they are attractive. Then they go home to their boyfriends, anyway. Boyfriends can be kinda habitual creatures providing safety and security. I think some women flirt because they still want to see if they're exciting towards the single crowd. Then they feel good about themselves and go home. I still think it's better to not date from work.
/r/seduction29/07/22 02:14 AM
1

That seems like a good outro. I'd think more about what to do before that point.
/r/seduction29/07/22 02:06 AM
2

That's the value of technology. Awesome post and thanks for sharing
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:51 PM
1

I can't tell her I'm just warming up?
/r/seduction28/07/22 08:21 PM
1

You could always hire an actor for a few bucks to pick a fight with you while you're with her. Then kick his ass in front of her knowing jail won't matter. Which is usually the issue if I really have to fight. No jail and you win! She'll never forget the moment you stopped a man from grabbing her purse.
/r/seduction28/07/22 08:01 PM
3

I actually don't ask waitresses out. I recommend flirting with her but with the thought that you can't actually ask her out. It's a good way to polish up on your charm. She's not likely to be rude to you, and eventually you can tell her you're just approaching for the real thing. Then tip her well, if it's customary. But don't ask her out. Maybe she'll ask you. Edited for continuity purposes.
/r/seduction28/07/22 07:31 PM
1

I'm in a small town, it's totally normal to go to a bar alone. In a big city, I just think more about my safety.
/r/seduction28/07/22 07:27 PM
3

Being single, I don't really approach women like they aren't potential relationships, even if they're throwing it at me. The path I'm on isn't really focused on having a relationship. I'm focusing on what's happening around me and how it pertains to achieving my goals. If I meet women along the way, that's good, but I don't really see beyond what I need to get done, first. If they are still around and available after that, then I might consider focusing more on a relationship. A lot of times tha…
/r/seduction28/07/22 07:23 PM
3

It was a summer job selling beauty packages. The company would contract with local salons and spas and threw together a coupon that I would present to them and sell. Not that hard of a sell as a lot of women do those things monthly anyway. I also made good money with that job. It would take two jobs to make the same income at this age. I was set on going to school so I didn't stick with it after summer but it was a fun experience.
/r/seduction28/07/22 06:20 PM
1

Read up on this. He mentions neutral receptive behavior in women and some other personality types. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/vz2utw/how_to_calibrate_properly/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:49 PM

I remembered when i first set out on my own. No longer living under my parents roof. That made a huge difference in what I was able to access and learn from. In my first month of college, I met a handful of girls but was not sure what to do. They literally would call me or text me, "what are you up to?" And I would say I was busy, because I didn't know what to do or say. Then I got a summer job that changed all that. It was a promotional job that required I speak to women. Even though I had to k…
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:42 PM

"Yes but no" is usually an indication that you might be moving too fast. I see it from their point of view now that I have some relatives that are growing up. And they are still getting familiar with themselves and how the world around them works. Boys start to like them and I think they play around with that, discovering themselves and what they are comfortable with. Socially, it means being open to speaking to most guys that approach them, but they might not actually feel comfortable doing mor…
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:29 PM
1

Yeah. It could turn me off too. It really depends how much rapport you have with her. Attitude doesn't have to be directed at her. Women are said to be attracted to men that are polarizing.
/r/seduction28/07/22 01:57 PM
3

Go to a strip club beforehand. Loosen up... Meet a friend for a beer.
/r/seduction28/07/22 06:16 AM
1

Specifically, nothing comes to mind. Her liking an attitude might mean she doesn't like men to always agree with her, if she's making a demand or decision and you differ on it. Tell her and oppose her in a way that is fun and invigorating.
/r/seduction28/07/22 06:03 AM
1

Friction as opposed to smooth. Generates heat...
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:58 AM
1

I think it means she enjoys feeling some friction from the person when it comes time to actually agreeing on something.
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:27 AM
1

Match their energy level, but be knotch higher in enthusiasm. Instead of volume or loudness, think voice modulation and expressiveness. Try to have a smile, but don't be grandiose about it. I don't even think about it anymore, it's ingrained in my character. If I had to be mellower it would be only to cue her that I'm not that excited, especially if she's way up and happy to talk to me. I can appreciate talking without drawing a lot of attention to myself or the conversation. Just keep that in m…
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:23 AM
3

Hesitation leads to anxiety. Don't be afraid to feel humility, either. It's actually a virtue. I don't mean go humiliate yourself but sometimes at the risk of humility, people hesitate and then anxiety sets in. Think it through, have a purpose.
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:00 AM
1

I started talking to more women because I had a promotional job, back at college, that forced me to if I wanted to make money. Eventually, I learned my pitch and grew more comfortable talking to women. Then I took that prowess and used it for when I went out at night. I usually met women in quick bursts, like up to five at a time. Then would eventually get around to dating one or two of them out of that five. Then go out again and meet more. It took considerable time to really get out of superfi…
/r/seduction28/07/22 04:23 AM
0

When that happened to me I told them to either admit they were wrong or end all contact with me. When they wonder back over near me, I told them, I really don't want you near me, now. Other people interjected and asked them to leave. I actually don't think they were people who really belonged here, anyway. They're just shit starters.
/r/seduction28/07/22 01:51 AM
0

No, she can't go to the strip club with you. Because....
/r/seduction28/07/22 01:39 AM
1

Not that often. I would just reserve text for actually setting a time to meet up, and maybe flirt some as you do that but I wouldn't just text for no reason. If I become more aquatinted with her in person, then I would probably send her some jokes every now and then.
/r/seduction28/07/22 12:19 AM
1

You should be able to transition to your house/apartment as easily as asking her over. I don't escalate to sex until I'm at home with her and usually into my bedroom. Don't have sex in a car, or anywhere else in public or you'll be pawned off as a john on the sex market. There's hookers and johns that take advantage of unassuming couples because their actions mimic those of a prostitute, so definitely take her home or to a hotel. My experience has been that women escalate to this extent, but as …
/r/seduction27/07/22 08:08 PM
1

I would bread crumb some before I ask. That means lead her on some, so she wants to. If you see her, you can always say "Hi", build up to asking out over a few short interactions. Learn more about her first, let her feel your character. But if you just had to go to lunch ASAP, then do it!! Best of luck....
/r/seduction27/07/22 07:53 PM
2

Dude, the Spanish women are the best, imo. Go to Spain. I went to Spain a few years ago, and eventually traveled through France and into Italy. Out of all my excursions, the good looking women in Spain were very abundant. France was much colder, and Italy was full of tourists by comparison.
/r/seduction27/07/22 07:45 PM
5

Dating really serves the purpose of just meeting in the middle, so each person can feel each other out and get to know each other. I don't think anyone would want to waste time here.
/r/seduction27/07/22 05:54 PM
9

Did you mention the melons? I think they're in season right now.
/r/seduction27/07/22 05:46 PM
1

I remember I got stuck in Europe and I had to rely on a foreign woman to sneak me out of a hospital, so I could get home. The guy was like "no, no, you can't leave, no... stay." So I had the nurse kiss me on the cheek, and then he said "okay, you can leave." What a nightmare. That's the most memorable thing of the trip. I had a similar experience in Mexico, when the federalez pulled me aside. My then girl friend came up to us mad about how I disappeared. Then they let me go, while she pretended …
/r/seduction27/07/22 05:21 PM
3

I can definitely relate. I've had similar experiences in business and in personal relations. People become more fallible with time, so if there's a gap where I haven't been in contact, I try to establish better boundaries to avoid those kind of "zombie" interactions.
/r/seduction27/07/22 04:19 PM
6

Women sometimes just need to feel some form of adventure. It could just be a kiss, and nothing more. Then they return to life with their social barriers in tact, and eventually they long for that bliss again.
/r/seduction27/07/22 04:05 AM
2

I would tell her i don't need to hear that.. and laugh and walk away from her. Go to my room if i have to.
/r/seduction27/07/22 04:02 AM
3

Hats, shoes, hoodies, ...etc. Women are a lot friendlier on the fly than you might realize.
/r/seduction27/07/22 01:27 AM
3

Often it's about seizing the moment unless it was a matter of budgeting and having the free time to go out, why would I wait longer than necessary? I'd rather see what shirt she could bring me. That's the next move... Do it now!!
/r/seduction27/07/22 01:25 AM
5

You should bring her a slice of cheese cake. Don't forget a fork.
/r/seduction27/07/22 01:19 AM
3

Too see if she epitomizes you or if she brings a shirt that says your someone worth spending time with.
/r/seduction27/07/22 01:16 AM
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Ask her out, but tell her you don't have a shirt to wear. See if she brings you one with a collar.
/r/seduction27/07/22 01:14 AM
1

Media is no less a factor, either. Showing perfectly sculpted women is idealism. Look at greek statues, Roman ones, too. Beauty changes over culture and time just as do fashion trends. If I had to lower my standards, this would be what I tell myself.
/r/seduction27/07/22 12:29 AM
5

I partly agree, but maybe something is flawed at the foundation of how you met her. Especially if she's a swinger. Swings to meet you, but the counter swing isn't interested. Swings to say hello again, counter swing isn't interested. My experience is I'm often forgotten unless I sleep over, not necessarily involving sex, but at least they remember.
/r/seduction26/07/22 11:43 PM
-3

Do you have a swimming pool? I could be your pool boy... ...gardener? ... plumber? C'mon everyone loves plumbers
/r/seduction26/07/22 11:37 PM
3

Did you pick one you like? Anyone of those would like you. You could buy her your favorite, so long as she's not a cyborg woman trying to marry you. Otherwise, you would be right to just applaud her butt cheeks.
/r/seduction26/07/22 10:29 PM
-3

After the beach it's customary to shower off any sand, this would be a great time to shower together. That should be in your play book.
/r/seduction26/07/22 10:26 PM
0

The gym is the only place left where I can seem like a reasonable human being near healthy women. Its a great way to center yourself, humble your ego, and get excercise. I keep the conversation loose and don't make advances on the women. Mainly, I just don't want the gym to be the thing. I would rather get in shape, and then meet people elsewhere. Just my thoughts. It's the same with music. I might get together with a girl and write some songs but it's not like its my intention to hook up, or ma…
/r/seduction26/07/22 08:30 PM
2

Milkbone or Snausages, but don't ever use peanut butter.
/r/seduction26/07/22 08:17 PM
2

I also chill and watch for a minute, if there's girls that are available, I sometimes wait as other guys approach them to see how they are. If they're stuck-up or maybe don't want to be bothered, it really shows. If they are smiling and putting out happy energy, they are going to be more approachable.
/r/seduction26/07/22 07:26 PM
7

Did she leave a good tip?
/r/seduction26/07/22 07:19 PM
2

I think gold digger. But yeah basically a one hitter, quit her situation. Just hide your jewelry, and think where you'd move your family if she turned out to be pathological about the gold.
/r/seduction26/07/22 07:12 PM
1

I've had similar experiences and I know what it's like. It took me some time to actually get comfortable. The main difference was just having my own place. That's key. I don't necessarily get completely sexual until she's in my bedroom, so as far as kissing and other forms of foreplay there's really no limits to that. It's like riding a bike; it becomes intuitive. If you get her going by kissing her, etc. you need to eventually advance to your place or hers, just by suggesting to do so. She may …
/r/seduction26/07/22 07:08 PM
2

You could tell her what Costigan Jr. told his "about to be lover" who had a live in boyfriend in that movie The Departed.... You could say, "hey your confusing me, okay. Your with a different guy, if you really want to be here then say so; but for now give it two weeks. If you're still not sure, don't call me back." I really see it like she's disrespectful. She'd call before two weeks, instead of letting it really sink in. That's what I would do.
/r/seduction26/07/22 06:54 PM
4

You should just be more physically assertive instead of asking or talking about it with her. To put it in context: "Would it be okay if I put my arm around you?" "Sure" "Ahhhh, that feels nice." Don't do that. Just put your arm around her. Three months in is usually a good length to just start being more physical. Don't change anything else. In the back of your mind, you should be saying sex can't actually happen unless she goes to my place, or hers. So if you step up your intamacy with some of …
/r/seduction26/07/22 06:46 PM
2

How do you get her to do cart wheels for a milkbone? Don't you have to have prerequisites at Berkeley.? I can't believe what the "f" I'm seeing!!!
/r/seduction26/07/22 06:35 PM
1

I think it's a law of the universe. It's reciprocating as long as you put forth the effort.
/r/seduction26/07/22 06:32 PM
1

That's the social hierarchy of the bar. The guy with the girls is at some inate level of more interest and influence than without. This is in line with the study that women are attracted to or turned on by people who have power. As a man, I'm more into having casual conversation with a couple at a bar, especially if I'm alone. They're more likely to be balanced and my approach is seen as friendly and neutral. Couples can sometimes be the most approachable at a bar.
/r/seduction26/07/22 04:36 PM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/The48LawsOfPower/comments/emng6y/the_48_laws_of_power_listed_as_infographic/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share This is a worthy study. It dives into the topic of power and how to use it, which overlaps some of the seduction practices. Having an understanding of power and how to manage it better prepares you in interactions because you might find that having women in your life affords some power to you that would not be there if you were without women.
/r/seduction26/07/22 04:26 PM
1

I tell people don't laugh at your own jokes, its corny by default. It's when the joke goes over her head and the bar keep is laughing. That's when I know i found a winner.
/r/seduction26/07/22 06:24 AM
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Actually this storyline is starting to remind me of something else. Have you been physical with her yet? Kissing, hugging....etc It reminds me of this time I met someone, and we went on a few dates but the reason why I ask, is because sometimes people have problems, like an STD, and they don't want to be obvious. In my situation she became very physical with me but would always leave the door open for others, which I wasn't patient about. I'm not her babysitter. I withdrew from that and later le…
/r/seduction26/07/22 06:15 AM

I wouldn't expect her to be looking for other guys. I know they'll hit on her but out of respect for me she better chill them out, or I'd leave her side and never return. Hopefully, there's comparable company where youre going.
/r/seduction26/07/22 05:44 AM
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Say... Speaking to you brings me to a state of bliss that i haven't felt since my childhood. Enjoy your workout.
/r/seduction26/07/22 03:38 AM

Do what every other guy does to get over his shame. Go to a tiitty bar.
/r/seduction26/07/22 02:55 AM
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You are talking photographs? Or real life laying next to me naked?
/r/seduction26/07/22 02:18 AM

Marriage as an institution would eventually know and clamp down on it. He'd be a hitman for that institution.
/r/seduction26/07/22 02:16 AM
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I'm saying if she has good hygiene and isn't obese, that otherwise similar, naked. That standard we set is all mental.
/r/seduction26/07/22 02:06 AM

You're still at it? Hitman aside, it's just bad to be involved that way. If she got a divorce, it would be okay after but the legal system makes mince meat of adulters; it would be worse for her if she fucked around.
/r/seduction26/07/22 01:58 AM
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No... You could escalate towards the end of the date. I wouldn't just grab her ass off the bat.
/r/seduction26/07/22 01:51 AM

What your asking to do is like describing that you've been driving on a windy ass road, ignoring all the warning signs; and now you're asking how do I crash my car into a wall. You should never mess around with a married woman. The person you're describing could be a hitman. Are you dumb!?!? He could haunt you for the rest of your life.
/r/seduction26/07/22 01:45 AM
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You don't expect to attract those type of people. If you're skinnier and want the type of girl that goes for muscle, then you'd better start hitting the gym.
/r/seduction26/07/22 12:43 AM
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See... here come all the skinny women.
/r/seduction26/07/22 12:25 AM

Girls are basically the same naked. You might see it like they have different skin tone or hair color or hygiene; stuff like that. They are the same basic form, naked. What defines a ten is they have the big hair, they fit in clothing that is designed as the ideal look, maybe even some cosmetic surgery. Most women could go for the clothes thats better suited to their body type and still look really good. Naked, side by side, they are more similar than what the media ingrains into our hormone dri…
/r/seduction26/07/22 12:23 AM
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It depends on who you want to attract. If I go to a gym and become healthy, i will in turn, attract more health conscious women. If I sit and watch movies, I will attract more movie watching women. Just depends what you want to attract.
/r/seduction26/07/22 12:13 AM
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In business, though, it's also more formal to not lower yourself through what would be considered flirtation. We're really taught not to comment on her appearance even if she looks great. It's business, not really a fashion show. The other aspects involve social media and work place gossip. People talk, comment and it causes what is referred to as work place gossip. I personally would not endeavor on it beyond casual friendship because you can still benefit from the resulting social circle and y…
/r/seduction25/07/22 11:17 PM
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If you're at work, seems like you would just meet up outside of work, offhours, like after work. I wouldn't throw my information on the table at work. You know what else I would not do? Date people at work. I'd be a casual friend, and maybe date her friends instead. Even if they're ugly.
/r/seduction25/07/22 08:08 PM
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How to find it? Practice on waitresses or counterstaff. Interact with them beyond the necessary. They can't be rude to you, so you can work on your delivery and develop a style. It's about being spontaneous, but usually you need a few catch phrases to spark that spontaneity.
/r/seduction25/07/22 07:11 PM
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That's the everyman type of story. I mean that everyman can relate to not having a condom. Maybe she could tell. I would lower my expectations but still try to have fun. Girls do things that's like that; daring herself to do it. You might find she's not actually trying to have sex yet, for as sexual as she portrays herself. In some ways they're more attracted to you if you let them have fun without the hustle for sex. If I were you I would want a perimeter around her before we have sex.
/r/seduction25/07/22 06:59 PM
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They do matter but to what degree depends on their ego. The inflated male ego wants the most beautiful woman. The inflated female ego wants the material gain of the relationship, especially if it's popular. Not everyone is 100 percent ego driven, but the more egocentric the environment, the more the behavior starts to churn as you've described.
/r/seduction25/07/22 06:47 PM
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There are the basic laws of attraction, and the laws of the universe. Any man could approach a population of 100,000 people, and still attract a set number of women who favor him for no reason other than him being himself. Not every man goes for what he attracted. Not every man goes where those women are that are attracted to him. To navigate this, you would first be honest with myself and think who do I attract, and then make it easier by going to where they might be. Gaming women is like sayin…
/r/seduction25/07/22 06:30 PM

I've learned to start my own archive. This seems like it's based on behavioral science and not just a working opinion that gets niche results. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/vz2utw/how_to_calibrate_properly/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction25/07/22 06:15 PM

In my age, i approach sex much differently because people become more fallible with time. There's drug habits, STDs, and children. In my youth, it was easier, there's more options and more bliss. People aren't weighed down by these issues. Not having these problems, and not wanting them in return really narrows my options. I would even put off sex instead of expose myself to these issues.
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:35 PM
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Don't confuse needy with clingy. There was something i read about "love bombing" too. Where the guy buys extravagant gifts and comes on strong like he's wisking her off her feet. It was saying how that's a bad thing and it's controlling and manipulative.
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:37 PM

I think getting friendzoned is her way of saying she isn't interested in sex from me. I don't really come off that direct, or that hasty, but usually there's a moment between us where I get closer physically. When a girl friend zones its her way of managing herself so that it doesn't happen.
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:15 PM
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Think "self sufficient". No one needs to help you or tell you what to do or how to do something.
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:36 AM
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Go workout, play tennis, shoot hoops...etc. Getting exercise.
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:34 AM
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The difference between charisma and charm: Charisma is more than the words that are said. It involves voice modulation, cadence, and body language. Effective charisma can express a variety of emotions and intensity without losing the ability to be a likable person and hold attention. Charm is the specific implementation of charisma in a given scenario. If you aren't attracted to a girl, you don't charm her. It's that simple. You can still be charismatic.
/r/seduction24/07/22 10:18 PM
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Cold approach is actually a "go getter" philosophy, but I think it's a misnomer to call it "cold approach". I'm an old dog, these aren't new philosophies to me, but there are some new tricks to learn. Obviously, the more game you learn, cold approaching is really about knowing when and where to warm approach, with some respect to knowing who your niche audience is, demographics and location. The coldest approach is on a bus or train, and warmer at a mall or school yard. Warmest at a night club. …
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:53 PM
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Don't let that discourage you. Actually it's less about faulting Tinder or similar sites, and more about the data market place where data has become a compromise over privacy in some respects. With some awareness, using a dating app has all the exploits that other third-party sites have. Data is bought and sold just the same.
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:09 PM

I think dating apps fall short on gender identifying the technology. It's too easy for two girls to take on a couple as bf/gf.... I can't say this has happened to me, I don't use Tinder, but it's easy to run code on text so that the data is bought and sold as someone else. That's all my charm and charisma, CHOP!!!.... And there it goes on a third party site packaged as someone else. Probably catfished as a woman just so it run reverse game on dudes for all the marketing worth the data actually h…
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:08 PM
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Call the girl with the intention...
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:59 PM
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You need a lot of land and some livestock
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:28 PM
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The first date is probably going too long. What do you typically do as a first date? Dating experts advise keeping the first date short and sweet, like 10 to 30 minutes so you can get a feel for what it is that each other is actually looking for. I could lay down my objectives and all my pursuits in life within fifteen minutes. I don't really want to spout off about ex relationships and other pig-headed bull crap. It takes a succession of dates to really get to know a person, but if there's any …
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:33 PM
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I'm a guy and I dress down, or even style as to not be as attractive as I can be. I thrive on the attention, but I don't enjoy the media. It never shuts off. Does anyone else do that? And why? I don't really use it as a tactic, but sometimes i might meet someone and not be at my best, if I'm short on time. Then I meet them again, and I'll be all cleaned up. Then it's like her wish came true. Then she's more apt to dress up more and look better, too. I think sometimes they look at me like...in th…
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:26 PM
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Try to carry no expectations. When I meet girls, i think "would i"... it's habitual and shallow but if I know I would then the balls in her court. If I know I wouldn't, there isn't much difference in how I approach. It's still the same dynamic of meeting someone new and getting them to talk more personally with me. I also think.."what makes me shy?" It's a very, very, mild form of PTSD, and sometimes it makes it harder to actually approach or be overtly interested in her. Something is triggering…
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:05 PM
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In the back of my mind I think, "Do I want a drink?" And then might offer to order up for her if I do. It's custom to do, and if she's just playing me for it I think it's like some hazing ritual she's going through with her college friends: "Get a guy to buy you a drink." "Get a guy to drive you home." "Get a guy to call you in the morning." Like it's part of being a pledge. I'm not sure, but i have seen girls doing that sort of thing. "Get a guy to loan you his phone." "Get a guy to loan you hi…
/r/seduction24/07/22 02:49 PM
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We've all been there. I think within certain circles the social dynamic is more conservative. People don't overtly flirt. In some of my experience, it's those situations that a woman eventually approaches me and be more flirtatious and sexualize our interactions. It takes several meetings as a group to really get results like that. Sometimes people pair off and hangout separately for minutes at a time. We're not all stuck at a table. It's good being pre-qualified, and over a few weeks or months …
/r/seduction24/07/22 02:21 PM
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"Hi, where are you from?"
/r/seduction24/07/22 02:05 PM
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It's not just that she's on guard, it's that her interest is neutral. People do this, they just go along with the conversation so it isn't awkward, or that it's socially fitting too. It doesn't mean they like you... You know this already. What i consider engaging and enthusiastic could actually be boring and dull to her. You just have to keep talking to more women, until you make better connections with them. It isn't an overnight success. It's about making genuine friendship, first.
/r/seduction24/07/22 01:33 PM
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My findings show that texting is a female dominated enterprise. Participating in female pattern behavior through texting is actually socially degrading if you are a man. I just use text to communicate with people I already know, and for convenience purposes, like it's too quiet to talk or better to text instead of talk for confidence reasons, but usually setting up a call back or confirmation to do something real.
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:01 AM

If she says she has to go, it's an out for her to leave. She's just being friendly about it. I've really pushed these issues, like offering to take them to eat, and she'll finally drop the facade and just say no. The thing to learn is that it's better to leave her smiling and saying goodbye, than rolling her eyes and off-put by it. Other girls might see that and think better of you for it.
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:37 AM
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I'd think it's just a matter of time before she does that to me. She might be really in to me at first, so she's not going to stray, but any sign of it going south, I would break it off. And actually, to be fair, I don't really expect her to be like "oh, I'll only stay with you...." But at least communicate when it's through.
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:42 AM
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That's an unforgivable act, but I don't like absolutes. She just wouldn't be my girlfriend, ever.
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:34 AM
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Wow, somebody who really gets laid here instead of asking for advice on how to hookup with their cousin.
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:22 AM
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Come to think of it, I think I actually experience a very mild type of PTSD at specific points of interest. I don't know what the triggers are but the effect gives me more of a feeling of high alertness instead of relax and pursue friends. I would like to overcome this, but I have to understand what is triggering it. I'm obviously reminded of a bad situation and something seems similar about it that puts me a little on guard, but the logic in my head knows nothing like that can happen here. It's…
/r/seduction23/07/22 10:05 PM
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To put it into perspective.... Male pattern behavior... Drink beer.... Play video game.. Fix things that are broken... Curse when frustrated.... Buy more tools.... If a girl wanted a man she would break her own plumbing and ask the dude to help her. Male pattern behavior leads him right to her. Texting has little to do with male pattern behavior. The end
/r/seduction23/07/22 09:17 PM
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More female pattern behavior....
/r/seduction23/07/22 09:11 PM
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Women pick... totally agree. I also reaffirm that men are the gas pedal and women are the brakes.
/r/seduction23/07/22 09:09 PM
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Humor is a strength of mine too, but instead of gauging how funny to be, I gauge how intelligent or interesting do I want to sound. I will always be funny. Some styles of humor might lower your perceived IQ, or common across corny, or like a wise ass. Sounding intelligent makes for smarter humor.
/r/seduction23/07/22 08:57 PM
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More female pattern behavior.... If she was interested she would walk out the door and stop you, again...
/r/seduction23/07/22 08:48 PM
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Women are mean and they learn how to trigger those feelings in us if they are really manipulative people. I started to feel like there was some intelligence bureau on my dating life that women were somehow privileged to. How do they know this crap? It'll say "Virgina, Inc" on the door.
/r/seduction23/07/22 08:27 PM
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Cool..Now approach in person again. If you ask her out, only call her to see if she's ready to go.
/r/seduction23/07/22 08:18 PM

Female pattern behavior: Bending and hair flicking... texting.... texting again... Bending...text again....hair flick .... It's the eye contact, but at work these things aren't such indications of anything. When women feel safe, these sort of things happen, and they don't really expect it to draw the same attention as it might elsewhere. I don't think women care, though. I mean I think they would date from work if someone interested them enough, but that's a lot of mixed signals to work with alr…
/r/seduction23/07/22 08:16 PM

That's actually common. Considered receptive neutral behavior from her. I found myself in cycles with specific people because the social dynamic is very repetitive, like the gym. Its like throwing a rock in calm water, then all this uproar bubbles up to the surface. Then it calms down. Then I start over, but I actually think like... Do I want going to the gym to be a thing? A thing we do beyond like friendship? It's a very neutral receptive environment. I wouldn't think anything would really com…
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:55 PM

This reminds me of the antelope joke. Two antelope are on the lookout for lions. The first antelope is worried he will be eaten because he isn't faster than a lion, while the other antelope says, "I don't need to be faster than a lion, I only need to be faster than you." This is a fable that tells being the best may actually be unattainable for most people. A lot of that is up to chance. Just don't be the worst. Setting goals for yourself is a great way to mold confidence. Avoid impulsive decisi…
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:45 PM
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Really understand how testosterone makes you feel. You might actually read on that topic more because I can relate having once been a young man myself. In our prime, we are equipped with our glands but don't necessarily have the experience in life to know how to go about attaining what we want if its how we're made to feel, mostly because of hormones. Testosterone can also make seemly insignificant things more of an issue because it's making the prime male more aware of those types of survival/p…
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:05 PM
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If you could really follow through on that you would adapt and aquire some valuable life skills, like self affirmation and self conceptualization. You would become a stronger person and not be phased over the little things.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:52 PM
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I actually don't intend to type out my specific goals on Reddit, but the way to organize your life is to think of goals as short, mid, and long term. Make at least three goals in the short run, something that you could accomplish in a month: Get a new shirt, Buy some new software The idea is to lay down some "wants" on a list and really prioritize what you can get, and avoid the impulse to do otherwise. Then three mid term goals that could be achieved in three months: Get a new phone, computer, …
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:46 PM
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Try not to talk about the past, or subject matter that is too personal. Not right away, anyway. Thinking ahead, and talk about what is ahead. Set some goals and talk about them with her. Stick to those goals and follow up with her and see how she is doing. That's basic interconnection skills.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:02 PM
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When I'm alone I try to aquaint other people that are alone. Just to have friends on the fly and not look so desperate in the background. Then approach groups like it's just a matter of meeting new people.
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:51 PM
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I know just what you mean. But usually if you get a group of girls together with you, they are just maintaining the norm, while you choose who you make your move on. All you really have to do is focus more attention on the person you're attracted to. Don't bounce around. I also get to a point where I don't want to lower my standards too much. I would probably just carry the party for the sake of just having fun instead of trying to hook up.
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:43 PM
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Unless you could give an example, what you perceived as hitting on you might not have actually been intended as hitting on you. I don't mean to doubt you, I know girls put out mixed signals sometimes. There's only one way to find out, right?!?
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:38 PM
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That's a good way to build rapport too. Have fun and keep it clean. Being "on a date" with someone means that there are certain customary ways that dates carry themselves that involve very basic "on a date" together touching: Hand holding: This doesn't obligate anyone to anything other than signaling the room that we are "on a date". I extend my arm so she can hold or wrap her arm under my forearm while we walk. It's really a custom to do so. If you don't, other people might interrupt you two. H…
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:26 PM
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Twenty years ago, I remember when I cold approached a girl and ten minutes later we were in a dressing room. I'm sorry for all the annoyed people that afternoon, but after getting that to happen I found that it was actually possible. I had done it, such that I couldn't even finish. I was too nervous. It was as much an adventure for her it was for me. That was before the nine eleven attack, and before any cellphones. After that I knew never to push humanity to brink of letting me have a bj for th…
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:57 AM
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I've never thought women struggled to date me.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:42 AM

Sounds receptive neutral. When a woman is interested, the text "what are you doing?" Is usually in play. She genuinely wants to know what I am going to do, right now. Like right when I'm getting off work... (Text) This really doesn't mean you're more than friends but it is usually a step towards something more than female pattern behavior. Depends on her age and experience. She might realize that you would really go out with her, then cowar over what her dad would think. I don't know...then she …
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:05 AM
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Probably more how you are dressed and styled, as a first impression. Hot and sexy is revealing more skin, tighter fitting clothes.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:56 AM
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Stay composed. Stay in shallow water. Don't get all deep, at first. Establish boundaries. There's times and places for sparking thought. You don't want to express strong opinions or radical thinking in person. You can blog about it, then tell them "check out my blog". Then they'll tell you what they think, hopefully in person again. Avoid in person rants without a structure or some forethought. It comes off as irratic and unpredictable, in a bad way. Almost like a whino, or evangelist. Avoid tha…
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:15 AM
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I still qualify in person, then decide who to share social media with. I rarely do it the other way around. I had a bad experience and I sometimes run into situations that start reminding me of that bad experience. Like, this seems like that situation, again. Here it is in different form. I just learn what to avoid and rely less on it. I don't know if I come off as a creep, but instead I ask what's creepier, a moderator who checks up on people in real time, or someone flirting with women at a ba…
/r/seduction23/07/22 02:27 AM
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I think this is a good read. I think it's important to guide young people through tough situations that allow them to make better decisions and avoid pitfalls. It would be great to see more posts like this.
/r/seduction22/07/22 11:25 PM
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What topics do you usually talk about?
/r/seduction22/07/22 07:21 PM
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The majority of men reach full sexual maturity at 18 to 20. Men don't have the experience in life at this age to pursue what they want when it comes to how their hormones make them feel. In a culture where men are mass marketed to, it is a constant reminder.
/r/seduction22/07/22 07:02 PM
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What do you focus on when you talk to women?
/r/seduction22/07/22 06:51 PM

Hormones.... especially testosterone. It's a core motive at that age and I think men should be aware that it's the basis for a lot of the emotional turmoil you can feel, especially with anger and aggression. It heightens the insecurities and blame you might feel. Confidence building actually should focus more on goal orientation instead of physiology. Focus more on your activities and less of a woman's opinion of you. It may not always be what you want to hear. The more driven a person becomes t…
/r/seduction22/07/22 06:20 PM
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I never ask, but assume. Make her mention she does. The way to approach is to just ask her out or get her phone number. She should mention it then.
/r/seduction22/07/22 05:55 PM
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I'm on an all or nothing type of person. I either enter the conversation head first, or not at all. I try to be a better listener in those situations, and then gradually bring up my opinions and experience.
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:11 AM
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It is rare, but younger women tend to talk to me out of nowhere. They are usually pushing the envelope knowing I'm too old. Like "my dad's eighteen years older than me"...so i do the math, making her father actually younger than me. I actually feel all regressed in those moments, too, like women in their late teens early twenties still have this lasting effect on my psyche. More often than not, when they approach they are too young. I think, twenty five looking or older is where I place the bar.
/r/seduction22/07/22 03:33 AM

Here's some common sense things to approaching night life: Make sure you go out with single friends, that way you don't get dragged away by the friend who has a girlfriend; he'll always have to leave early. Three is the magic number. Four makes for a packed car, and that's not as appealing for some reason. Larger groups need two cars, then the group splits up over the night. One group gets girls, the other is behind. The one group meeting girls will go where the girls are, but there are only eno…
/r/seduction22/07/22 02:06 AM

I give advice case by case, and don't mind sharing some of my experience. There's very rarely a broad based approach, that's more about confidence and self-esteem and learning to be social. These are tools that can enhance all facets of your life. Learning to pickup or flirt is just a stepping stone in life towards getting to the next phase in life. No one developes pickup skills like they are going to spend their life picking up women until they are sixty. With some perspective, it's really mor…
/r/seduction22/07/22 01:58 AM
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There was some special on cable television many years ago about a guy that was trying to find his soul mate. He did some calculation to determine that it would require him to date at least fifty different women before he could make a decision. Partway through his experiment, after about 14 different dates he met who he would have chose, but continued to date until his count had exceeded thirty dates. Then he quit the experiment and continued with who he determined to be his soul mate after only …
/r/seduction22/07/22 01:51 AM
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I hate that. Don't act like we're fuckin'. You should act like you're fuckin when you hang out with her on her terms. On second thought, she might really enjoy that. Who knows...lol. It's just better to move on, especially if you're meeting new girls.
/r/seduction21/07/22 11:55 PM
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I have a crease in my face that is new to me. I literally look like someone folded my face in half down my left cheek. Then my face droops like I've been shot up with a bunch of stabilizers. I don't know where i picked it up from. It goes away, though. Like when I go out at night, it's gone. Then comes back. I'm trying to find the source. I don't know if it's the water I drink.
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:08 PM

You answered your own question. Set boundaries. Any other women on the horizon? It's surprising to me because I've been in a similar situation, during which, I met someone else, hooked up, and she never talked to me again. Then it got back to me that she knew I was still going to go with my "friend" eventually. She might have seen it differently if I really made myself available to her, and never looked back. A lot girls look at it that way, they would hookup but don't want last month sitting in…
/r/seduction21/07/22 08:18 PM
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That really depends on cultural bias towards what is respect based, or what is fun based. Funner people can joke around and not take themselves seriously. Some people can't have fun unless they get respect. They prioritize respect over having fun.
/r/seduction21/07/22 07:59 PM

That's more about setting boundaries between partnership and friendship. It's harder for men to come off a relationship and be friends, so you need to set those boundaries for yourself. The other dynamic to be aware of is in talking to other girls who are sending hints. They might be interested but they respect the thought that you might actually work things out with your "friend" instead. You don't want to put off a vibe like that. You want to meet new girls, and they need to feel like you aren…
/r/seduction21/07/22 07:49 PM
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I'm going through some hurdles right now, and by comparison, I just don't think it would be wise to carry a relationship through all of it with me. After I move on, I don't want the relationship to be entrenched with what it is that I had to overcome to move forward. It's the psychological burden that is instilled, rather than a fresh start. I just see myself dealing with the day to day bullshit that I need to take care of, while the actual relationship becomes infused with said bullshit. When I…
/r/seduction21/07/22 07:20 PM
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As a sub to this topic, because my college experience was before touchscreen technology and social media; people did more face to face and by phone. I have this rich analog format in my past, that was not heavily reliant on digital formats that are common today. Digital media makes everything faster and smarter, so its possible to automate some actions and words without having to repeat them yourself. With the perspective of my past experience, I sometimes see how smart technology has pushed som…
/r/seduction21/07/22 06:15 PM

College is hyped a lot in the media. It's not really that common given that most people in school are there because they want to be, and it costs money. I was fortunate to have a job in college doing promotions which had me talking and doing some moderate travel. I can revel in that experience more so than what came from parties out of frats. It was fun either way, and usually there are specific events rather than reoccurring weekends. Like St Patrick's Day in Chico, or Halloween in San Diego. B…
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:25 PM
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Don't let one date define optimism for you. As for being excited, you have to taper your level of enthusiasm so it is just a knotch higher than the person you speak with. If they are super excited, try to be just a knotch higher in excitement. If they are mellow, you don't want to out mellow them, you should just try to be a little more excited than they are. Don't associate louder with more excited. Try to think like expressiveness and voice modulation. Instead of monotoned or even expression. …
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:30 AM
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Many years ago, after i turned eighteen some friends of mine who had joined the military took me to a strip club where I saw the most skin I had ever seen up to that point. Then we went to a night club and everything seemed downhill from there. I remember meeting two different girls and then making out with one of them in the back seat of a car until we got to a hotel. Then my friends had to leave, and I had to part with her. It was such a fun time.
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:04 AM
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It's possible you have been stigmatized. Go to a strip club with some friends, and get a lap dance. It will loosen you up some, and just maybe break your stigma some.
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:53 AM
1

Then why aren't there a lot of "pleased crowds"?
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:07 AM
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Go to a strip club, get a lap dance. It will orient your senses and reduce remorse anxiety. That will happen a million times more in your life, and the results will be the same most of the time, but at least you know you've tried. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:58 AM
1

Buzz it off.
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:52 AM
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There's no "nice guy" for all situations. That's what a pushover is. I think about guy talk, and to tone it down some around women. Have some ediquette and don't be abrasive.
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:15 AM
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I forget, now. "Crowd pleasing" is when you say whats cool, instead of what you mean to someone.
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:29 AM
1

Lack of ambition. Lack of funds. Short on friends. Short on time.
/r/seduction20/07/22 11:56 PM
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I was going to say something, but then I was reminded I would be told I was "crowd pleasing" instead. Not fair to assume.
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:24 PM
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Taking out dates is all part of the fun. Casual dating outside of sex is when I think people really build up an esteem. Some of those women happen to be really hot.
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:16 PM
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The "don't want to be a creep" complex is overcome by assuming that they are married or have a boyfriend when you talk to them, especially at a grocery store.
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:18 PM

Seems like common sense, but the more formal the occasion or environment, and how she's dressed, it might seem better to come across as intelligent instead of funny. Sometimes humor can seem like you are being a wise ass. Once you've shown intelligence, move on to charm, then introduce some humor. Think, smarter jokes.
/r/seduction20/07/22 04:55 PM
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It's important to keep perspective. I wonder how long a woman can go with malicious intentions of spreading an STD. That's a straight up psychopath, and she should be put in an institution. I also knew of a girl, long ago, who caught an STD and it completely changed her attitude towards men. Now she dox's men into their grave. It's really messed up and more than any man would ever want to deal with. These are like 10 on the mean scale. Just short of murdering you in your sleep.
/r/seduction20/07/22 04:40 PM
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Social commitment is a longer lasting form of commitment than attraction. When people meet, they see where they stack up financially, kids, education, etc. The initial meeting stage of dating is dulling over these realistic endeavors when actually considering a long term commitment.
/r/seduction20/07/22 05:18 AM
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Women are usually always approachable as long as it is normal to. If you're interupting them it's just a matter of whom is being nicer about it. You can't be rude in action, as much as rude in your words. Who would be rude anyway?
/r/seduction20/07/22 05:10 AM
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I was on date with a girl who's friend was dating a girl who intentionally went with another dude who busted his load on her chest, just so she could see this other dude and push her breasts in his face. How mean is that by comparison on a scale from 1 to 10?
/r/seduction20/07/22 04:17 AM
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How mean is mean, though? Can you give a real world example? Or if she's looking for you, use a hypothetical?
/r/seduction20/07/22 04:11 AM

I become a little whiny pest unless i get some "hoo hooo rahhhh"..., right? Something to orient my senses. It's a good way to get some confidence and loosen up your posture.
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:11 AM
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It isn't for pizza, it's for popularity. Do you need to be that popular?
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:03 AM

Read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/vz2utw/how_to_calibrate_properly/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share It's sounds like she was neutral receptive which is actually how most women are, unless they are hit on constantly. She's just following along with you but possibly not that interested. The more you do that, approach, you'll get a sense for when she's really clicking with you. If you're not loosening up, you feel a little tight in your expressiveness, then go to a stri…
/r/seduction19/07/22 11:21 PM
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No kidding. I've been very careful and nothing has happened with me, either. I'm much older and wiser now. One night stands aren't something i would not pursue this day and age. I remember meeting girls on the fly at bars and clubs and getting some numbers, but very rarely did I ever go all the way home into bed and out the other side of a nurse's station with her. In fact, I can count on one hand how many times and still have enough fingers left to write a note with. It was a much different tim…
/r/seduction19/07/22 08:02 PM
2

Other than fashion sense, also be up on what's popular to them. Age is often percieved as an attitude not a number.
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:00 PM
2

You get to what your looking for faster.
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:17 AM
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I'm going to go with adidas track suit on this one. I can't sit still too long. When it's time to eat, lose the jacket and reveal a polo and a wrist watch.
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:09 AM
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No. Most people who aren't a complete package have to try harder in the areas they are lacking. They can still get the girls if they work on themselves. A surprising number of very attractive women don't always enjoy the company of what I would consider to be a top tier guy. I think when it comes to material worth it is more attractive to them wether they admit it or not.
/r/seduction19/07/22 04:42 AM
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In my experience its one in five in dates that actually go on second dates, and that's if I'm open to it. Sometimes I would meet newer people and still wanted a first date with them over spending time on another date that I wasn't that into by comparison. There's stuff like where are we going with this? And I end up parked in an alley while she waits for her dad with a wash rag in hand. This has to be a hidden camera show. Sometimes the date behaves like she's a ten, but not. I know how to treat…
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:52 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/vz2utw/how_to_calibrate_properly/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Mentions eye contact, and how to read what it means. Usually beyond three seconds is a cue to approach, where glances and shorter than three seconds doesn't really mean much. I wouldn't stop me from approaching, but you have to consider the social situations and if it's actually an appropriate time and place. If you're already talking, maintain eye contact and be direct.
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:06 AM
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It's not a rule it's a guide so you don't stress on what is said. Realize it's more what a person does than what is said.
/r/seduction18/07/22 11:19 PM
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You want to keep your options open and no one girl is sexually involved with you yet.
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:19 PM
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Comment on clothes, shoes, jewelry etc... "That's a different necklace, does it mean anything?" Its a good way to break the ice, unless they're naked. Then you should probably talk about ancestry.
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:12 PM
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It isn't easy. I think going alone is hard not to want more attention than what is actually pursuable without seeming desperate. Does hitting on women take center stage. There's other stuff to do and other people to meet.
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:46 PM
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Avoid repetitiveness in dialogue and you will have successfully mastered that strategy. I think women can be put off by overhearing a man tell the same lines to another girl, and another, and another. It helps to have an intermediary. Something you can tell them about. Next, avoid ckick bait that waste time and eats up your confidence and enthusiasm.
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:40 PM
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You shouldn't kiss to gauge interest, you kiss to show intentions. Also, depends on the floor plan. It's customary of my friends and roommates to not just sit and kiss on the couch all night.That would be awkward, unless you lead her to your room. Also set a boundary for her, if you're home alone, that you can't just do it on the couch. You need to show that you have control over your intentions if she wants you to back off. If she asks where's your bedroom, and walks into it, it's pretty much o…
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:33 PM
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You can't develop a "gambler's fallacy" when using the web to date. Doing more of something doesn't change the odds.
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:35 PM
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I've never been to NYC, and I've never used snap chat. But I have dropped my keys on the ground. I think of a poor sap in NYC, who dropped his keys, and his social media accounts apping "ghost, ghost, ghost" in quick succession.
/r/seduction18/07/22 03:44 PM
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That stuff is for kids. Some of it needs "click bait" or it doesn't happen. Remove the "click bait" and get ghosted that easily. I wonder if those third party sites try to keep proprietary ownership of some things people are talking about. "I'd meet you, but it requires their "click bait" and that's hard to talk through."
/r/seduction18/07/22 02:51 PM
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You have a lot of life ahead of you at 23. Adjust your attitude, so when you do talk to women the conversation isn't bogged down by the past. Try to set a goal, keep your mind going forward and don't be afraid to tell girls what you're doing. That's the easiest way to talk to them.
/r/seduction18/07/22 02:48 PM
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You have to look at hooking up as a type of relationship. It may not be serious and it may not be exclusive, but you still have to talk and meet and have that build up. It's going to talk and feel the same as a relationship, and that's a cue to do what? Withdraw ...
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:06 AM
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I like using entendre. "They have great melons here." If you're going to be more bold... "I really like your melons" Try not to laugh. Hold it in... Then immediately hold up a melon. "These are great." If you break character, you'll be corny.
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:52 AM
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Having character is another way of saying there are many sides to a person. Playing a character is like acting but then it's another way of advancing who you really are, so long as you advance who you really are.
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:43 AM
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Definitely go slower in words but move faster. The example, was something a girl taught me. To actually sit next to them instead of across from them when you eat. Then you are physically closer. Does she rear away, or scoot into you? Then you know where you stand. I don't get lost in the details. If she's talking dirty, i would probably grab her thigh and tell her to behave. Instead of responding in kind. Setting boundaries is like saying I'll go through this much drama with you. How much drama …
/r/seduction18/07/22 02:14 AM
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Is it worth it? Do ever ask that... So if she's worth it, you have to show her she's worth it. You could tell her but words are fleeting to girls. It's how you're going to show this, that "I think you are worth it."
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:55 AM
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I would tell you, but as a guy I wouldn't want girls to read it.
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:47 AM

Depends on the source. Consider your source and what is said to you. "Oh, she's click bait."
/r/seduction18/07/22 12:35 AM
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Then he got a girlfriend. Then he became all well behaved and reserved. He'll be missed.
/r/seduction18/07/22 12:24 AM

It's the same premise.
/r/seduction18/07/22 12:20 AM
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Wait... You work with her? All bets are off. This would be strictly casual, like I'm bored don't want to eat alone, lets get this dynamic out of the office, type of thing. You can't mix work with pleasure.
/r/seduction18/07/22 12:16 AM

I'm older now, but something a friend of mine would do at clubs or shows, he would get set on approaching a girl, usually a very hot dresser, and just hone in on approaching her from across the room. First thing he we would do as we arrived. So he would make his way through the crowd, and as he did other people would move back in the direction he was headed from. Usually a girl would be walking past him that he would unwittingly brush up against, so at this moment he would grab her forearm and s…
/r/seduction17/07/22 11:56 PM
1

That reminds me of a joke i use to lead with... "I'm the kind of guy that has to have every girl like him. If just one girl rejects me, I can't go forward with my day, so I make sure she likes me."
/r/seduction17/07/22 11:38 PM
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It sounds like something a robust chauvin would say; that kind of stuff is going out of style. It's not really supposed to grab meaning or influence. You might just chuckle at it. Just be firm in your words when you mean business. Don't cave over a pretty face and some curves.
/r/seduction17/07/22 11:33 PM

Avoid click bait. The stuff that's designed to get you to respond, waste your time, and go nowhere....
/r/seduction17/07/22 11:30 PM
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Her body is telling her one thing, while her mind is saying wait a minute. They can't help it, i know... it's so horrible.
/r/seduction17/07/22 11:27 PM

I've said this before... it's the 80/20 rule. 20% what you say, and 80% what you do. If you're already warmed up to her, try telling a dirty joke. Don't make her the object of your remarks. Its also important to establish boundaries in terms of what is okay to say and when. Physically, speaking you are the gas pedal, and she is the brakes. It's really up to you to set those boundaries for her.
/r/seduction17/07/22 08:26 PM
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https://www.shaneco.com/gemstone-jewelry/gemstone-earrings/gemstone-fashion-stud-earrings/aquamarine-and-diamond-earrings-in-14k-white-gold/p/41088391?gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=CjwKCAjw5s6WBhA4EiwACGncZRTFz7OO1I9VuflGpHFoOYlop6QRy64roNy7L1ySvy_HLGRZXTwTHBoCgXsQAvD_BwE These are good. Everytime you think, go out alone.... just sock away 75, and stay in, until this is achieved. Remember, it's for the girls you would've considered. You would become one hundred times more seductive with these, if you follo…
/r/seduction17/07/22 07:48 PM
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Read this, dude. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/vz2utw/how_to_calibrate_properly/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share You could shut down r/seduction and just have this be all that people need to know.
/r/seduction17/07/22 07:39 PM
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Don't do it. It is juvenile.
/r/seduction17/07/22 07:30 PM

It's taking a risk to go out alone. The bar scene is usually a good all around environment. Depends on the location, but girls may not arrive until after 11pm, or not at all... I would just think that's fifty bucks in alcohol that I would save, why not just save it, so you could go buy diamond earrings with it, down the road. A "For the girls I would've considered" jar... Then the day women are around, decide if it's really worth pursuing. Who's really worthwhile? Instead of having to wind mysel…
/r/seduction17/07/22 06:41 PM
2

It sounds like phone sex to me. Is there a real expectation that she would really see you at your place? You obviously need to meet in the middle, first.
/r/seduction17/07/22 04:21 PM
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Dating and social life are one in the same. Have you suggested meeting someone who "isn't in the lime light" or "discrete".... It's like saying I'm not some loud ass guy.
/r/seduction17/07/22 03:43 PM
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I don't know if I should tell you this. I feel like I'd be currupting you. I'm a forty something man. When you go clubbing do you ever get a hotel close by, beforehand? It will lay the ground work for you. You ll have a place to go and be alone with a girl, or still have some friends over. It's just having it available, it might improve your body language or posture when you speak. Don't get a hotel room if you don't make an objective to at least get one girl back to the room to kiss. Don't thin…
/r/seduction17/07/22 03:13 AM

Sometimes being feminized is a portrayal of the system, which means someone really hates you, or is gaming you to be that way. You might not even know it. It's considered stalking and you don't want to be passive about that sort of thing. You need to instill it's false. I know we're taught tolerance, etc but not really drawing the line might not illuminate otherwise. I actually don't call it a phobia. I wouldn't want to be mistaken for that lifestyle. Straight passivity gets your corn hole torn …
/r/seduction17/07/22 01:07 AM
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Hey check it out r/tattoogirls "We want you to meet her."
/r/seduction17/07/22 12:57 AM

Well, yeah.... Then i would say bring her over as a guest. But I'm not going to text her off of my friends taste in women, alone. I have to meet her. Unless you're saying, she's expecting a text like, hey you want her number.... check it out. I thought you meant like "So and so is single, fucks on the first date, want to meet her?"
/r/seduction17/07/22 12:47 AM
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I ran into a familiar face at the gas station, and thought she was too young, but still worth saying hi to. I'm not shy. It was just a chance encounter. I think getting her to talk was a surprise, because she sounded much older. Her face bent away from the mode that I recognized. It was like she aged five years in three words, and her eyes got much bluer. I probably don't have enough gold in storage right now. I don't know why that happens.
/r/seduction17/07/22 12:09 AM

I'm not really an online guy. Unless I actually meet the person first, I don't involve the web.
/r/seduction17/07/22 12:01 AM
1

I was going to help my neighbor milk his goat, why what are you up to?
/r/seduction16/07/22 11:41 PM
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Collard shirt mandatory. I'm over thirty. I hate getting mixed up with little girls so I have to up the anti some. I try to set the bar at twenty-five looking. Younger than that is exponentially more energy required on my end. Parents....??? Drugs....??? All the mistakes I already made and don't want to do again.
/r/seduction16/07/22 11:39 PM

Visualize a comfortable place, and place them in that space like they are actually visiting you. Like your living room, or friends living room, bro pad. The thought of keeping a mindset with you helps with setting a dynamic that is welcoming and approachable. That's how i do it. It's called self-affirmation. Like maybe these people really shouldn't be in my living room. It's really cut and dry....too. Have fun, though.
/r/seduction16/07/22 11:33 PM

It's about energy and exertion, though. Why do all that work when it's not in the cards? I'd rather just chill. It's not for a lack of interest. If I'm interested, I smile say hi, flirt, but i don't have to force it just to spend up all my money too quickly. I guess I'm a tight ass, but then I'd always be broke.... Being broke is boring no matter what. I try to avoid being broke.
/r/seduction16/07/22 11:26 PM

I like this read. It makes me ask if you are interpreting confidence as something other than being genuine. Or that lack of action in a social situation is for a lack of confidence. What about standing your ground? Do you have to stick your neck out every time? Just some rhetorical questions, because being calm and quiet is sometimes more attractive and necessary than being spazzy and forward. These are just some other interpretations of confidence.
/r/seduction16/07/22 11:15 PM
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Creating the camaraderie is sometimes about relying on friends for their strong suits. A man in my circle with this ability would be called "brother fortune" a gatekeeper of good fortune.
/r/seduction16/07/22 09:51 PM

Seriously, though you have to think, is she under the influence of a drug that makes her think you're someone else? Don't take it personally, and try to keep having fun. Never lose character. Keep going forward.
/r/seduction16/07/22 09:15 PM

"He's a narc." Dispell that right away by displaying your own recreational preferences. Then think, Oh, we don't revel in the same classification.
/r/seduction16/07/22 09:12 PM
1

I notice a pattern, particularly a social pattern, and the way people get inked is sometimes revealing of a pattern. Does it hang on my every thought? no. It's a pattern, though.
/r/seduction16/07/22 08:17 PM
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If you're attractive, you have to see that you attract a lot of attention. Some guys don't want to be center stage, just to flirt and maybe get a number, and nothing more. You might be more intimidating than you realize. It's like I'd be designating those comments for a time and place that is full of hype and enthusiasm, anyway. Rejection doesn't have to take center stage. There's also the stereocast of talking to girl, flirting, and getting on board with her, to have her flaunt her actual opini…
/r/seduction16/07/22 08:11 PM
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You sound like me at seventeen. If I had to relate, i think it was because I was stigmatized. That's like saying that the social scene I'm privi to leads me to behave, think, and believe I am this way. You are only twenty so you have a lot of life in front of you. You should do whats comfortable and stay focused on your goals. If you want to improve your social skills, you have to want to. Challenge yourself. Just say hi to five people today, that never are going to see you again. It might clear…
/r/seduction16/07/22 06:54 PM

Right, like don't go shopping. It would be no different than going into a convience store in the US, only to have the clerk, butcher in this case, chase you down the street for some unperceived reason. I'm thinking it's just not worth the risk of travel in Europe. You'd need to be paid to offset the cost of that risk, or you're stuck fixing problems that stem from traveling out of pocket. Think Florida, or Hawaii. Much safer bets, imo.
/r/seduction16/07/22 05:59 PM

I was in France and was chased down the street by a man with a butcher knife. Luckily, I was able to outrun him. Then two women from the US found me ducking in a side street and after a short introduction, recommend I go with them.
/r/seduction16/07/22 05:43 PM

I can only relay my experience. I was living in los Angeles and cohabitating with a mix group of latino and white. When I went to latino clubs I would fail over what ordinarily would get more reception at other clubs. My friend told me not to approach like that. Don't try to make them laugh. Instead approach like you want to hump them. That didn't really work either, but it did cut out the wise cracks, and I did get more reception. I was able to get people to respect me, which i think is more cu…
/r/seduction16/07/22 05:35 PM
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This probably sums it up. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/vz2utw/how_to_calibrate_properly/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share The receptive/neutral behavior. Sometimes women are neutral, but will follow along if you ask, but it doesn't mean she's receptive towards you.
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:26 PM
1

Consider how you might be overcompensating for your own self percieved weakness. Maybe it's the overcompensating that puts them off.
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:13 PM
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I think most gentlemen struggle with the initial hurdle of breaking the ice. The eighty /twenty rule. It's twenty percent what you say, and eighty percent what you do. Avoid the habit of embellishing yourself through prose. Show your worth on your sleeve. I wouldn't get tripped up over what is said as much as wearing the right clothes, cologne, grooming etc. It makes a significant difference. There's not a whole lot of calculation involved; if there was, it wouldn't be engaging and fun.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:29 PM
1

You might try dating a STEM student.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:17 PM

If your parents give you any kind of independence and space in your household it's a lot easier. Otherwise, it sucks.
/r/seduction16/07/22 01:32 AM
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Never lend a stranger your phone.
/r/seduction15/07/22 11:26 PM

I would text back... "Well, quite literally I'm about to go out with friends." She's a flake because she doesn't have her parents permission to date you. She's embarrassed to say so. Approach texting that way. Then think about maybe meeting her family at some point.. "It would nice to meet your family some time." If you or her don't reject that thought, I can segway to my next point.
/r/seduction15/07/22 11:25 PM

As a sub, I didn't grow up with sisters in my household so this is something I've been blind to. Eventually I caught on because it seems like they are not interested, but they are usually trying to wiggle free of parents. You definitely don't want to enable undermining parents in the form of an online date.
/r/seduction15/07/22 07:19 PM

You might consider that she is financially dependent on her parents and might not actually have complete control over who she sees. I've known girls well into their twenties, living in their own place, and even have their own job, but might still be depending on parents. It's actually a common reason, but not socially appealing to bring up. It could be embarrassing for her. You would have to incorporate meeting parents somewhere in your itinerary of dates. If she's not up for that, then back off…
/r/seduction15/07/22 07:11 PM
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I think warming up socially is great, but i would watch my liquor. Try the same exact setting, bar, etc...and drink a soda water.
/r/seduction15/07/22 06:52 PM
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Give an example of a shit test on a woman. I wanna know, do i do this?
/r/seduction15/07/22 03:12 PM
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A diarrhea of the mouth, test. Really it's just about being honest outwardly. If the subject matter gets too personal or revealing, then withdraw. Don't keep talking. You pass. If they aren't outwardly honest, and putting themselves on, it starts to show. I don't ever openly challenge them on it, I just quietly think they are a con. Like, I don't want to get mixed up with that.
/r/seduction15/07/22 03:09 PM
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You should try the airport. Hang out near the baggage claim. You'll meet someone. Have a sandwich.... Seriously, though, its just a good habit to instill. Keeping work separate from personal. Setting boundaries for yourself. These are strong suits to have in life. Culturally, you might differ. I don't expect everyone to agree. I look at how different some things in my life would be if they didn't generate from work. Some are good and some are bad. The more high profile jobs I've had don't really…
/r/seduction15/07/22 02:53 PM
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Right, live and let live. All chilled out, no need for alarm, til her parents are wondering why their daughter lied. I would just sooner avoid the drama at work. They could have fun, though, as colleagues. Stay professional. Perceive, conceive and achieve.... together or alone. I hope this helps.
/r/seduction15/07/22 02:37 PM
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If you value the friendship, you would lay off getting at his sister. It sounds like he was at his limit with you. Instead, think about the likelihood of meeting a friend of hers. You would have a good social circle and that is of more value and opportunity than trying to play your friends sister for a number. Friends sisters were off limits. Unless my friend was saying, "Here, meet my sister. I'm leaving.... you have fun." And even then, I'd be cautious.
/r/seduction15/07/22 02:29 PM
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9s and 10s would be okay, but I don't like having to be in an area where they must shut down a three block vacinity so everything is all secure. Like being on set, where I'm just a walk on. Or are those 11s? I find 7 to 8 is right on the cusp. Pluss she'll still drive if she's into you.
/r/seduction15/07/22 06:53 AM
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Men are dying on the vine with OLD.... Make sure they can vote, and you'll cut out so much nonsense. Maybe even go out instead of sit at a computer "hoping"...
/r/seduction15/07/22 06:44 AM
2

Talk about other girls, instead say it like...."my friends seeing this girl right now.." It's actually sounds like she's brushing you back, like she's hinting away from being a serious investment.
/r/seduction15/07/22 06:33 AM
8

I'm mostly self taught so it's great to read something about this topic with actual terms. I got my experience mostly from a sales job that had me talking to a lot of people. I started to use those skills in approaching women when I was younger. It takes time and experience to actually percieve the receptive/nuetral arena. I found I could get a handful of women to follow along but weren't necessarily receptive to doing anything beyond just following along. I could rack up phone numbers but only …
/r/seduction15/07/22 06:25 AM
2

Is it for real.... I catch my self saying oink oink in those situations, because it's pigheaded.
/r/seduction15/07/22 05:57 AM
2

Have you actually set up a date? Endless texting or back and forth is like hanging on the vine for her. You have to actually get some time with her. Otherwise, move on....be mature and don't toy with her.
/r/seduction15/07/22 05:37 AM
1

They never tell you.... "You have a calendar.....go to July 24, 2024....and mark your calendar..... call me back then."
/r/seduction15/07/22 05:04 AM
-3

Just being cute is good enough for you at nineteen. Think of what you're parents would say if you got to talking to him. You'd have to start lying, and being all scandalous. He's not going to help undermine your father. Stop now.
/r/seduction15/07/22 05:00 AM
5

Convenient, but tacky. You'd be putting yourself out there and saying "look at all this attention I'm going to attract to myself." It's not like hooking up is this life long skill you're going to be using until your fifty. The card doesn't even get her number, it just gives her an option, and like most ads they go in the trash. Thumbs down unless it's actually a real business card and you actually intend on doing business with the person.
/r/seduction15/07/22 04:50 AM
1

Understanding why....a possible explanation. Women are up for the adventure of a hook-up but may not want to actually continue it any further because they eventually have to get back to life where their social boundaries are set for them. They don't want to look slutty or be seen as promiscuous. If all she wanted was a kiss, and it fulfilled that sense of excitement for her, it would mean nothing more. The last thing that they want is their fling dialing in on them, or sometimes trying to visit …
/r/seduction15/07/22 04:37 AM
1

I don't think height is going to make a difference for you as much as trying to date from work. Don't date from work, its unprofessional and could get you in trouble. Not a serious job or career? Why not set boundaries for yourself now. It something I think women can appreciate, and if you had an interest in a girl from work, you would try to meet her friends, first. Then try to date them, instead while she chaperones.
/r/seduction15/07/22 04:18 AM
3

The girl picks the guy, I don't think there's a formula to make it happen. A guy doesn't have to do anything special, other than be interested in her. Show you are interested, don't tell her anything weird. Words don't mean as much as what you show her.
/r/seduction15/07/22 03:28 AM
0

You should ask your friend out, and see if her coworker wants to come along, but don't ask for her number yet.
/r/seduction15/07/22 03:21 AM

You are work to get paid. Don't mix work with pleasure, it's unprofessional, unpredictable and it could get you fired.
/r/seduction15/07/22 02:56 AM

Don't date from work. If you want to practice flirting, do it on your own time.
/r/seduction15/07/22 02:48 AM
3

Don't be afraid to make friends with others as you pick up on women. Actually the best environments are when the ratios are even or in favor of girls, so being friendly with everyone is going to attract wingman behavior. It's just a beer away.
/r/seduction15/07/22 01:53 AM
0

Were you wearing your underwear? See that's flirting....
/r/seduction15/07/22 01:37 AM
2

I see strip clubs like Im handing over my testies momentarily, while she or they, dance with my balless body.
/r/seduction15/07/22 01:23 AM
3

Her dad won't support her decision in talking to you.
/r/seduction15/07/22 01:02 AM
0

Have something to tell her about, like a theory about life, in a funny way.
/r/seduction15/07/22 12:39 AM

I'd say you probably already tried this: You settle on one girl to get with, and then need to get your friends on board with her friends. If you don't have time to play match maker, ditch the scene with your new friend. Let them know first, of course.
/r/seduction14/07/22 11:42 PM
1

Safety... women can tie up any man no matter how big, smart, gifted or talented.
/r/seduction14/07/22 11:40 PM

You couldn't pay me to go to Europe.
/r/seduction14/07/22 11:26 PM
1

I don't bother sending a text, at all. If she wants, she would just call back. Try to not drunk text. After like three months of no call or anything, I delete the number.
/r/seduction14/07/22 11:24 PM
7

She was just up for the adventure and moved on. Then they go back to their lives and don't really want a dude calling or texting them. It's awkward for them, they need to be able to focus where their social boundaries are already set. That's been my experience with what I would generalize as an independent woman.
/r/seduction14/07/22 11:20 PM
5

I've only considered it under the condition that I was so slandered by what life through at me, any conventional approach was too risky for me, or the party involved. All I had to do is get laid, and it would dispell the rumor. I think people saw the desperation it created in my life to where if an escort was really required, why couldn't someone just do the job of dispelling the rumor. It's like saying, "okay, he was with his girlfriend, that wasn't true." I didn't need an escort when someone f…
/r/seduction14/07/22 07:10 PM
1

It's hot and cold. Not everyone is going to be attracted to you, while others are. The way to tell is someone will tell you, "so and so, says you are cute." Heads turning.. Traffic stopping.... Cameras flashing..... A red carpet rolls out in front of you as you get out of your car. Never limit yourself over one person's opinion of the way you look.
/r/seduction14/07/22 04:50 AM
18

Don't invite them to your place. Casual means you're meeting someplace in the middle. Scope them out, see if they are for real, first. Let them feel you out some, then proceed to go from there, be it your place or hotel.
/r/seduction14/07/22 02:02 AM
1

Set boundaries for yourself. Avoid styles or looks that are indicators of stuff you'd never want to be a part of.
/r/seduction14/07/22 01:58 AM
2

Of course it's a waste of time, unless you just want a fling and then move on. That's the upside. The downside is if she does split and chooses to date you, she'll rebound on you. Its a repeating pattern for her; you becoming the next exboyfreind for her to rebound from. Its seems like it'd be more common of relationships.
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:02 PM
1

I empathize with your problem. I've seen personality changes in women after moderate contact with them. It really seems like a different person, and it can be off-putting.
/r/seduction13/07/22 06:24 PM
1

My living room is really a comfortable place, so if I'm in a place where I need to be more assertive, I try to visualize my approach like I'm answering the door. Its a great way to stay grounded in your thinking while you approach anyone, really.
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:47 PM
1

Maybe just see where you are most comfortable vs where you are more anxious or uncomfortable. Then you have to visualize you are in a comfortable place when you are in a more uncomfortable situation.
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:47 PM
2

A subedit to that topic Wether its emotional stability or about being fair, or right or wrong...etc The system is rigged, so she's always right in that situation, so even if she's wrong, you can't win. Its better to just let them have the last word and not feed into their negativity. A man can be right a hundred times over, but if he was wrong once, he's always wrong. So that is the environment that I would sooner avoid and not get done in on those mind traps.
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:15 PM
1

I've had similar encounters. It's why I require they be able to vote before I get too involved beyond superficial hellos. If they can vote you cut out all the felons and inmate culture, and you won't have too many green card pursuits looking at you like a potential pawnsy. That's where all the hate comes from. If you have to reject her, try to use more tact. Try not to toy with them, or the way they feel. Avoid "I'm seeing someone else." Or "I made other plans"...
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:05 PM
1

It's unfortunate being on hiatus for a long time. Your friends can help if they know women, who know other women. It's like tball in baseball. You can get use to talking to girls and learn to flirt with them. Have fun being social again.
/r/seduction13/07/22 06:16 AM
1

I've been down the road of not actually having much in common. Don't dress the same, listen to the same music, or click on any subject matter at all. She was even annoying to me. The turning point was when she began bickering with me again, and for some reason my reflexes in my arm grabbed her boob, then released immediately. Then we just started laughing. Then she wanted to come over.... It all happened very fast.
/r/seduction13/07/22 06:05 AM
2

It's the asking without sounding typical, but fun is depending on what? What's going to make that date fun?
/r/seduction13/07/22 06:02 AM
1

I would just convey plans, make sure it's still happening. Then build more real rapport in person.
/r/seduction13/07/22 05:53 AM
1

Say hi, at least. "Can I test a theory on you?" No, don't do that.... But the more you try, the more pick up game you create for yourself. Phones can be a crutch, especially in those moments. Take her picture.... don't let her see. Don't do that either..
/r/seduction13/07/22 05:23 AM
1

Have you ever not got along with someone, but there's no other option between the two of you? Like stuck on a trip, or small town. You bicker at first, for months....then hook up. Then get along. Then go back to your life with that out of the way.
/r/seduction13/07/22 04:25 AM
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Days of texting should lead to asking her out. At least meet in a well lit venue, with a friend of yours and have her bring a girl friend with her. The four of you could sit and eat pie together, at a coffee house. Just my suggestion. After a while, girls....eh hem... people, have to do more than text or its boring, almost pointless. It has to go somewhere, even if it's a nice person.
/r/seduction13/07/22 04:16 AM
1

I'm the same way. Grocery stores and gyms.... Everywhere else it's more natural for me. The gym environment is active. I'm there to work out, and I don't have much need to talk. The girls are hot, and have ear buds. Social cues are kinda not open, if you think like a polite, civilized, adult. I like being able to go out and have fun, then come back to a center point like the gym, and still seem well adjusted around some beautiful women. But hitting on them would be like throwing a stone in calm …
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:30 AM
1

"Hi, you want to help me test a theory?"
/r/seduction12/07/22 11:30 PM
1

I've gone at it alone, because I didn't really give a crap, but if I wanted to save time and actually increase the likelihood of success, I would approach with a friend. Even if he just stands next to me while I talk. I'd approach twos and threes alone, but four or more you need a wing man if you're focused on talking to who you are attracted to. The other part of that question is the getting the cutest girl, or the skinniest fat girl, depending on the crowd. Don't quit, though, try to see if yo…
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:47 PM
2

I don't know. Validation is more of a habit than an actual thing people are aware of. I think both sexes do this, and age really effects how they interpret it. If I don't talk to a girl at all, my life feels slow and sluggish. But talking to some women in the interem while I actually get things done, for some reason is more fulfilling. Its because I'm single. I don't really mean to come off as a flirt, or wanting their attention. It's just something that fulfilled that void, or that purpose. Val…
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:29 PM
2

It's rare but sometimes women do take advantage. I think they call it "bread crumbing". Where she leads the guy on, she gets what she wants, then goes on to the next one. It's difficult to avoid considering men's natural inclinations, but easy to recognize if you're aware she might just be leading you on for a score. Who dates a stripper and doesn't have that thought in the back of their mind? Or the exotic foreign chick getting off the airplane. These two scenarios are potential plays on your w…
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:15 PM
9

A first date is more about seeing if they are for real. I wouldn't be so eager unless this was someone I'd been talking to for weeks before we actually go out on a date.
/r/seduction12/07/22 05:56 PM
2

I moved out of my parents place at twenty one. It made all the difference. I actually was so anept at dating, that I couldn't tell when girls were flirting with me. My friends had to encourage me and point it out to me. Something about having my own place gave me more personal freedom.
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:35 PM
6

Don't date girls at work. Don't mix work with pleasure. If she's really the type of girl you like, consider friendship, but ask about meeting her single friends outside of work. Girls that are friends, usually have a lot of similarities. This way there's no work place gossip and people can enjoy working together. Remember, you are there to get paid.
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:29 PM
1

Maybe some hater swapped his background. Maybe he was swapped at birth. Next time he does that, ask him. "Were you just swapped at birth?" I should probably elaborate more: I sound like an idiot every time i try to explain. I've been dealing with this issue of swapped records, so I've been seeing life like sometimes people aren't always saying or doing the things they do. If you had sex with him, and he got swapped at birth by a malicious organization, that organization could play him for master…
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:13 PM
1

I wish I had instilled that in myself earlier because now I have all these fakes in my background. It's how social security ties us together at work. It doesn't matter how serious the job. It matters how serious the woman. It's a bad precedence to set if you really just want to make money and go have fun. One day you will want that, but having it in the background from jobs past, let's another take the cake. You don't want to be told when you can or can't have fun, off the clock.
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:59 AM
3

You could go get arrested for something else, first. At least it would be on your terms. Pay your bondsman, though.
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:48 AM
2

I always tell people not to date from work. Its the mixing of work and pleasure. Its a good standard to have, and a boundary to set with women, and a good boundary for the self. Her friends on the other hand..... Your paycheck should be your top priority.
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:43 AM
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"Fucked in the head." To clarify.
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:36 AM
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I usually talk about where they are from. Ancestry....types of stuff. It's a good ice breaker. Its hard not to have some rehearsed phrases but I think it's important to try to be in the moment and not bullshit. Get to the point. Then outro... Basic glad to meet, you Ill call you soon etc.. Usually, i fall short on stuff to say because she's not giving me any hot buttons. So rather than talk I just ask to get her number, Or If you're really super fast, understanding that I'm not going to hit a wa…
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:31 AM
18

I don't go to clubs alone. The last time I did, I ended up at a house party. There were girls, there were bongos and the living room was filled with merchandise. I never saw those people again.
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:13 AM
1

You've been with him. Maybe he got swapped for masterbation, and then when you start talking to someone else, the system says no, you've been with her... And flips him to your conversation.
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:07 AM
1

Answer one: People get jealous for different reasons, but the thing to remember is that they aren't always jealous. Feelings can be very fleeting and jealousy is something girls and guys act on, but might not ever feel that way again. Answer two: I can't tell you. Just from your story it doesn't sound like it. It does seem odd, though.
/r/seduction11/07/22 08:14 PM
29

One at a time. Not that I'm this huge player, but when I was younger and first starting out in life, I was naive to women and dating. I met one girl, right after another, and they both became serious with me at about the same time. I was thinking this is what it's like, cool.... But only one girl I was really into, the other one was just their, first. I decided to only be with the one, but they had already found out about each other. Now I had no one. Then I had the experience of how it really e…
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:52 PM
1

Girls just assume because you talk to them that the underlying reason is because you want sex. If you don't give a fuck, they won't either.
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:37 PM
0

If you've already broken the ice, said hello, made her laugh and created rapport by doing this a few times, the next thing to do is withdraw. If she's attracted to you she will come to you.
/r/seduction11/07/22 05:54 PM
1

Then you shouldn't get married. Really being a cheat before marriage isn't going to catch up with you until after marrying. Seriously. Being married would reveal this. How do I know? Because when you get married your records change to married, as opposed to what your birth records say. Right now you are a straight arrow. When you get married you become a loophole and the marriage market place will see what you are doing because there's other women crossing in and out of your pathway. Why give th…
/r/seduction11/07/22 03:23 AM
2

Okay, Then buy her good ear rings. Then buy her a new g-string. Then when you're kicked out because you don't have any rent money, you can tell yourself it was worth it.
/r/seduction11/07/22 03:11 AM
2

Ive already been there. You just have to lick her ear lobe and spank her. Then buy her a drink. Then you can be friends again.
/r/seduction11/07/22 03:01 AM
2

I don't have any special way of approaching that. Nine times out of ten, i would date a girl and we'd go out a few times. Eventually we get comfortable enough to let loose some, and we end up drinking. Then we end up at my place or hers. Its just a natural move. If a girl isn't ready for that she's usually up front or dropping hints right away. You do need a place to go to, though. Living under my parents roof was a stifling. Its a whole different experience having my own place.
/r/seduction11/07/22 02:40 AM
1

I understand these pointers and agree too that self confidence and patience are keys to leading a happy social life. I've used cold approach methods with some moderate success. Then my approaches were mirrored back at me. I had people walking up to me and asking if I was okay. Randoms, all walks of life. I started to get stopped a lot because people kept saying "introductory" types of things to me, just to make conversation. I don't really want that to continue. It's invasive and imposing. Was I…
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:43 AM
12

Gym, grocery store, laundry mat, and the parking lots there of. You have to be willing to approach them when the opportunity is presented. Honestly, there's much less opportunity than going to clubs or bars.
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:35 AM
1

True but over the long throws of life keeping business separate from personal experience becomes more difficult if you have too many outings with people from work. Spending time together is a necessity, but a colleague should really be a chaperone to other friends outside of work where more personal experiences take place, not directly of consequence for being your colleagues. I know this because I've seen it happen and experience the fall out through my dealings with social security and my priv…
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:30 PM
1

Don't date girls at work. Never mix business with pleasure. Instead, ask to meet her friends. The girls you don't work with. It's also a safe haven without violating one of life's unwritten rules.
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:14 PM
2

I've been flaked on like that. Mainly the issue was I hadn't really dated much before, at that time. Actually getting a girl out with me was a huge boost in esteem and self confidence. When they flake, especially last minute it's like WTF. I'm older and more experienced in dating than those days, and looking back at it, although we hung out and eventually did go on a date, I really would avoid her anyway. It's the whole yes at first, then no last minute. It's just telling of the type of person s…
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:55 PM
2

Think of someone who could use a friend, and be a bro. Take them instead.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:45 PM
-2

Herpes isn't a joke. I've had people pick me off, swing through my life and advance on me like "This way you got herpes." Even though I don't have it. Then it pidgen holds me for being what has the herpes. It's a huge block on anything going forward with me. It's a lesson on meeting strangers but also how to better meet people on the web.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:42 PM
-3

Don't you think being in the friendzone is better than being awkwardly attracted to her but not able to physically advance? Maybe the way to word it would be to say, "i really like you but we are just friends, right?" It's just better that you approach her that way than wasting your time with her like mores going to come from it than just being a friend, anyway. Don't be afraid to ask her about her friends, then. "It would cool to meet more girls like you. Do you have any single friends?" See if…
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:34 PM
3

I don't really get lost in those details. If she was in my bedroom, clothes come off. If she didn't go in my bedroom, clothes stayed on. All else being the same.
/r/seduction10/07/22 07:28 PM
1

I wouldn't hesitate in offering her a chance to get ready at your place before you go out, but considering who they are and not just that you are trying to make a good impression, realize that she's actually a stranger and you may not want that in your life so abruptly. It just takes time because not everyone is who they are at face value. I think if I were to estimate the amount of energy and talking it takes to really get a date to my house, it breaks down as follows: I talk to ten women and g…
/r/seduction10/07/22 07:15 PM
1

If i think she's testing me though, I try not to take the bait, and I say that I don't have time for this. My experience was that she was trying to make me fit the mold, and that I was harshly criticized by her and her audience if I wasn't able to, or didn't want to. That was draining and manipulative to talk to, or be around. With some perspective, I learned to avoid the emotional trap and see it like she was a borderline stalker. I won't waste time with it; it's not a situation that a guy coul…
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:51 PM
1

Have you seen the one where it's leveraging herpes or kids, or something like that? Like she's able to code "This is what I am without kids" and then show videos of it. Similarly, this is what she is with or without an STD. Then they try to wing through by advancing their video with an actual interaction with who've they shown it to. After that, they don't have to keep faking it, it becomes a reality for them, then they move on to the next post.
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:35 PM
1

I'm older now, but it was always awkward for my circle of friends and I when "that guy" brings over the older woman.
/r/seduction10/07/22 04:25 PM
3

Fuck-buddy is just a misnomer for ex-relationship. You can't really have just a fuck-buddy without investing the effort into it like it's not actually a relationship towards her. She becomes a fuck-buddy because the relationship failed in some way. Like, she wanted to get an apartment with you, but you weren't ready for that. So, you keep fuckin'... You get what I'm saying?
/r/seduction10/07/22 04:20 PM
8

I don't use texts just to flirt. Texting is more useful after you are with the person. You'd avoid all these pitfalls.
/r/seduction10/07/22 04:12 PM
1

I would send a text but I wouldn't get involved in a long back and forth. I would just remind her I'm looking forward to it, and assuring it's still on for meeting up.
/r/seduction10/07/22 04:09 PM
1

From what it sounds like that's her expectation, but really see it like it's just better to date people one at a time, instead of creating all these loose ends. You spread less germs that way, too.
/r/seduction10/07/22 04:04 PM
-3

Be careful man. What if she was with someone just hours before you, and hadn't showered? You took a shower together, first, right? After?
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:57 AM
1

Sounds like it went well. Maybe you just need to take a walk for a minute just with her.
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:51 AM
2

At my place? I would let her through the door and show her the living room and my bedroom. If she goes into the bedroom, it's on. Not much to say.
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:46 AM
1

Not recently. It used to be the only way to meet people but with all this media and third-party services, I don't like drawing that much attention to myself. I talk to people all the time but sometimes people go berserk on me, like they become superimposed bill collectors. It's a trip, so you have to choose your battles. Sometimes it's not really worth it, even just to get a date.
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:41 AM
1

You shouldn't be at a club alone. I don't mean to discourage anyone, but it is taking a risk. You might get conned into something by yourself.
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:36 AM
2

Meeting girls on vacation. This use to always happen. I never got any dates back home. Always on vacation. I was young once, too. What i learned is that usually girls either go with it or don't, and that moment passes and then vacation is over. Because she has a guy she's seeing I would think she's just toying around with me and move on. Some girls just hop from guy to guy like a swinger, as all the vacationers come and go. You never can tell.
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:31 AM
-2

Yeah, there's something wrong. Everyone has their own communication style, but if I talked like a girl, I would hope someone would just shoot me.
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:18 AM
1

Sorry but I'm just trying to feel this out some. If she's going to a party with you, don't you want to get with her beforehand? Then there's nothing to worry over being blocked about. They'd be too late. Or..... I have this theory about showering with a girl before we go out, which means she's already naked with you. I really don't know your situation or the dynamic between you, but the party isn't really the highlight of the night. It's just some place to go after you hook up. Then after the pa…
/r/seduction10/07/22 12:55 AM
3

Depends on my budget and looking back at it, there's a lot of wasted money on nights out alone. Aside from that, its risky to be out by yourself. You could get plaid or conned into something. So be sure that where you go that you have some rapport with the establishment and that you aren't completely by yourself. Otherwise, it's not worth the risk over the long run, and you save your money.
/r/seduction10/07/22 12:45 AM
1

Don't date strangers. Date through people you already know. Like instead of hitting on the girl at work, ask if she has some single friends. Don't date your friends' sisters. Date their sisters' friends. Same with friends' wives. Wives' friends. Daughters?!?! When to draw the line.
/r/seduction10/07/22 12:37 AM
1

I feel that way when i never get a chance. Like there's no girls in this town. It feels like I have no life to just work and sleep. I don't even need a result or a date out of it, but just talking to girls makes me feel like I did something. The otherside of that coin is being stuck in an environment where there aren't any other men. Its all women, and me. That can be hell, and ball shrinking at the same time. You can't talk like a guy. You can't share your inappropriate stories. If you are ever…
/r/seduction10/07/22 12:31 AM
3

Or even just take the initiative and tell her I'm in a hurry, so can I get your number before I go. I don't like just huddling over a girl like that. Its pathetic too me.
/r/seduction10/07/22 12:03 AM
1

I say back "I'm not always ____________", towards the criticism. I figured that they are just bored, so getting criticism from them is an indication that I should probably open up more. It's weird when people don't actually know me but they might say stuff like that.
/r/seduction09/07/22 11:59 PM
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Cold approach is more about "pulling" than "pushing". I can't tell you what to say because everyone has a different lingo but I think if you thought you would hear "no" or "not interested" ten times over before any one person was receptive enough, that you would be a huge mac even at that rate. Just trying is good. "Pulling" means that you only really spend time on the person that is receptive to you, instead of trying to make them be receptive. The more you do that, the more your attitude is go…
/r/seduction09/07/22 11:52 PM
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I gather it was in conjunction with the technology that would one day let our penis choose dates for us. So these models are just watered down versions of that. It's the fastest route through sex, so that's what they tend to put out from their side of the camera. You can't really treat it like they are real or have the time to act on everyone like it isn't a business strategy for them.
/r/seduction09/07/22 11:34 PM
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