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| 6 | Does anybody else feel like the gender war at an all time low (certainly in my lifetime)?I'll answer this from the perspective of someone who considers himself a feminist. I agree with about 75-80% of it. The parts I disagree with would make me persona non grata in certain subreddits. I agree that women were historically disadvantaged, still face many double standards than men don't, certainly when it comes to sexuality. I lean pro-choice, I hear the kind of comments customers like to make to my female co-worker, I've had a sister who's been stalked, known too many women who were as… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/07/24 04:24 AM |
| 27 | Real life helpsI've never seen anything to back up the idea that women are in so-called "Chad Harems", that they only care about money, height, looks, etc. I'm not an especially attractive man, but I've seen guys uglier than me manage fine. I've seen guys shorter than me do likewise; my mom's bf is 5'4. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/05/24 01:11 AM |
| 21 | A failure of this, and similar subs is that the majority of people attempting to provide advice are womenI'm a guy. I also happen to be a virgin, never had a relationship, and I'm in my mid-30s. I get it sucks, and after a while, it can wear you down. Sure, I've gotten the: "Women don't owe you sex! Do the world a favor and kill yourself, you piece of shit!" despite not expressing any misogynistic views. However, others are sympathetic, and people can be supportive even if not in that situation themselves. I've spoken to a couple women in a similar situation. One of them planned on committing suici… | /r/ExRedPill | 24/04/24 04:15 AM |
| 2 | Girls always shame you for approaching or “hitting on” multiple women, sharing screenshots of their dms trying to humiliate you but men are FORCED to cast a wide net due to the fact that most women are taken or “uninterested.”Truthfully, I still do get pushed to mask. I'm just not very good at it, even at my age. I appreciate your kindness. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/24 04:38 PM |
| 5 | Girls always shame you for approaching or “hitting on” multiple women, sharing screenshots of their dms trying to humiliate you but men are FORCED to cast a wide net due to the fact that most women are taken or “uninterested.”Thanks. Most of those incidents were long ago; now it's more that I can make people uncomfortable and on edge. I've never been good at masking and coming across as different makes socializing very difficult, however much i attempt to broadcast open, welcoming vibes. I've noticed that at my dance class when initiating conversation. I'm still attempting to form connections that are a part of the fundamental human experience, but it does get to me at times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 10:49 PM |
| 15 | Girls always shame you for approaching or “hitting on” multiple women, sharing screenshots of their dms trying to humiliate you but men are FORCED to cast a wide net due to the fact that most women are taken or “uninterested.”I'm someone who tends to be treated with suspicion and make people uncomfortable, especially women, thanks to being autistic. I do understand women have reason to be wary, given how many I know who have been hurt. My sister was stalked by someone at her last job, for just one example. But it still isn't fun being on the receiving end. My experience has often been women freaking out, punching me, threatening to call the cops, even losing my first job because my attempts to be friendly spooked a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 09:15 PM |
| 7 | Being slightly neurodivergent is more of a dealbreaker for most women than being a complete scumbagExpect I would have been too. In school, I was often an outcast among outcasts. In fact, there was a time one of the school counselors told me that students and teachers alike were scared of me, thinking I'd show up one day and start shooting. Going to school in the post-Columbine world meant constant suspicion, so yeah, wasn't exactly accepted. Combined with difficult family circumstances, little wonder I wasn't a happy go lucky person. I'm still trying to meet people, approach them, be approac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/24 01:38 AM |
| – | Disregarding appearance, modern dating dynamics naturally select for emotionally unavailable menI hate agreeing with this, but yes. Speaking as someone who doesn't fit the traditional masculine mold, it's something that women very much enforce as well. I've probably heard: "Man up!" more often from women than men. Men often do struggle with things when they desperately need to speak to someone, only they're taught to remain silent, by both genders. It's being good with people that's key to dating when you're male, since we usually have to make the first move in relationships. Exceptions ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 01:43 AM |
| 4 | Would autistic guys have more luck if they were more social?From what I've seen of your comments, it could have just been luck. Not every autistic person ends up alone. But it seems to correlate a lot more than things like height, money, or looks. I've seen plenty of men in relationships that women supposedly wouldn't want because they aren't Chad. A big factor for autistic men: did they form connections as a kid? Did they find people who accepted them? Autistic men I've spoken to with a measure of success did. It sounds like you managed it, and I'm happ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 01:11 AM |
| – | Immaturity is a bigger problem with guys than they think.Being immature doesn't stop men from finding partners. One of my sister's ex-boyfriends... has two kids that he makes no effort to be in their lives. He's in his 30s, he doesn't clean, doesn't do anything around the house; his mother does all that for him. Much of his spare time is spent on booze. While women eventually get tired of his crap, it doesn't seem to stop them from being attracted to him in the first place. He's one of many examples I've seen, so maturity isn't necessary. What I've no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 10:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV- Men who struggle to date in today’s social climate have serious physical, social, or emotional flaws.I know how social interaction is supposed to work, how you're supposed to form friendships and relationships. It's just never worked for me in practice. However, I don't know much about sports or cars, and neither of them are an interest of mine. I also work to avoid politics. Trying to be funny when I don't know someone is usually far more likely to anger them than make them laugh. My issue has always been being autistic, and however much people like to insist otherwise, I cannot train or disci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 03:37 AM |
| 2 | CMV- Men who struggle to date in today’s social climate have serious physical, social, or emotional flaws.Tried that, and still trying it. At these events, I go up to people, initiate conversation, always smile, willing to listen; what usually happens is, I get one-word responses when they bother to respond at all. Eventually, they say nothing and mess around on their phone, making clear they're not interested in speaking to me. I regularly search for anything within driving distance I might be interested in. I live in a town of 2,000 people, so there isn't much if you didn't form a circle when you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 03:12 AM |
| 4 | CMV- Men who struggle to date in today’s social climate have serious physical, social, or emotional flaws.Sounds like my experience with online dating. The last site I tried, the only person who bothered to respond was someone trying to scam me out of money. Suppose I should try another one, but doing this for more than 3 years has worn me down. I put genuine thought into my messages, put effort into my profile and pictures; still nothing. I have found: if you don't get your footing while you're young, it's very hard to do so later on. Life doesn't care why you fell behind, only that you did. I ofte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 01:59 AM |
| 3 | Are women not getting approached anymore?I understand how difficult that's got to be. I'm in a similar situation, only a decade older. I don't drink, don't party, and finding friends, let alone a relationship, often feels impossible. I live in a rural area and while that works for some people, it really doesn't when you're on the spectrum. People usually have their own social circle and aren't interested in new members. I'm not sure what to tell you, beyond keep trying and hope for the best. You'd get far more attention with online dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 06:23 PM |
| 3 | (Re-upload) What do y'all think of this excerpt about radicalisation in the manosphere?Unfortunately, autism seems to be the recurring theme when it comes to long-term loneliness. The minority who succeed somehow, some way, found people to accept them as children. Might have been surrounded by more tolerant individuals, were higher-functioning, or just plain luck. However difficult it's been for me, I've had it easy compared to some. One example that comes to mind... he's almost 50, never so much as kissed or had any sort of physical affection at all. Unfortunately, a lot of the t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 10:56 PM |
| 10 | (Re-upload) What do y'all think of this excerpt about radicalisation in the manosphere?Loneliness is another thing that's seen as a moral failing. You don't take responsibility for your actions, you refuse to work at it, you refuse to improve, you refuse to touch grass, and on and on. My forays into dating ended with physical violence, women I tried to flirt with going ballistic, threatening to get the police involved, even having campus security called on me once. So; "worst case scenario: she says no" has never been true for me. A lot of the stuff considered outrageous fantasy h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 08:12 PM |
| 5 | (Re-upload) What do y'all think of this excerpt about radicalisation in the manosphere?I've read that post before. Unfortunately, there's a fair amount of truth in the part where he says (paraphrasing): "Henry beats his wives, beats his girlfriends, constantly cheats on them, has served many jail sentences for it, and as soon as he serves the sentence for his latest round of domestic violence, he'll find another girlfriend almost immediately." I've seen that play out numerous times. My Dad worked in law enforcement and saw far more. A few of those women ended up dead. I don't buy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 07:33 PM |
| – | Do men even like women anymore?I know in theory how it's supposed to work. It just never seems to happen in practice. That my forays into dating were such a disaster is a reason why I can't convince myself: "Worst case scenario, she says no!" Unfortunately, autism seems to have a strong correlation with later-in-life lack of experience, far more than height, looks, money, six-pack, everything else I see mentioned here. It's why I say social skills are the most vital. The couple autistic men I can think of who did have success… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 04:40 AM |
| 6 | Do men even like women anymore?That's often been my experience. No matter how much I try to describe it, they don't get it, and a lot of the time, they don't care to. I'm being lazy, I don't want to try, I'm being entitled, no one owes me a relationship, on and on. I've been on dating apps for over 3 years and it was a last-resort option after everything else failed. I had one brief date that went nowhere. I've never so much as cuddled on the couch, holding someone's hand. The "advice" people give... do they seriously think I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 07:53 PM |
| 4 | Has anyone’s opinion or outlook on certain beliefs changed based on engagement here?I don't really go into solutions as much because I'm not sure there is one. For a few men, there might be no better answer than to live your life without relationships or romance. I speak to someone online, on the spectrum, and he spends all his time on his hobbies. Never had much life with friends and he essentially stopped trying. Sad as it is, might be the best way for him. When I speak my story... some respond with compassion but I certainly get my share of accusations of being misogynist. O… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 02:57 AM |
| 4 | How low would autistic guys have to set their standards, if women only date up?Yeah and the attitude is often either that you're lazy or just being dramatic. One good thing about covid was that it showed I wasn't weak or pathetic for struggling. So many had mental breakdowns enduring for a few months what's been my life. It takes me a lot of work to keep trying. Positive affirmations every day, meditation every day, pep talks every day, 24/7 monitoring of my emotions. It's exhausting but there's no alternative. If I had more connections, it'd be easier, but I have to deal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 10:01 PM |
| 5 | How low would autistic guys have to set their standards, if women only date up?Sadly, past a certain age, there isn't a good answer. It's very different lacking experience at 20 versus lacking experience in your 30s. They're treated as no different because the latter is rare. "You just need confidence! Learn to love yourself! Get out of your comfort zone!" Autism is seen as nothing but an excuse. You're higher functioning than me; I fit the stereotype more when I was younger. I can socialize, more or less, but there's little opportunity if you didn't form a group when you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 09:27 PM |
| 12 | How low would autistic guys have to set their standards, if women only date up?Women get judged more on looks. Men get judged more on social ability, which a lot of autistic people lack. Even when you do learn, that takes time, time you might not have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 07:50 PM |
| 23 | How low would autistic guys have to set their standards, if women only date up?Not 100% impossible, but being autistic makes it a lot more difficult. I'm on the spectrum, never had a relationship despite being in my mid-30s, and it's a major struggle to be optimistic about it. I recently restarted online dating and despite buying a fancier phone for better quality, spending money on better clothes, slimming down, I haven't so much as gotten a response. The one person who did was just trying to scam me out of money. My standards are not wanting to deal with drug and alcohol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.I personally think I'd do all right if I had the opportunity. I'm affectionate, romantic, I know communication is important, and I do have at least a theoretical understanding of the "mechanics." It's just having that door open that's the big problem. I've had similar difficulty with employment. That's speculation on my part but it seems plausible to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/23 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.There's also the idea they're immature, don't know what they're doing between the sheets, etc. Course, experience doesn't necessarily matter, especially with those who only think about themselves. The incel movement was started by a woman, back when it was a support group for lonely people. What I expect happened is that while most wanted support and a sympathetic ear, there were a few that were deeply misogynist. Over time, they drove out the more reasonable people until it became what it is no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/23 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.Though the issue might not be one you can do anything about. We all do our best with what we're given and sometimes this leads to crappy outcomes. I'm aware I probably speak too much on the topic but one reason I do so is to point out we're human beings. Unfortunately, "incel" and lacking experience are treated as interchangeable. Many here have admitted lacking experience is a deal-breaker; nor does it mean immaturity. Sometimes, things turn out the way they turn out; happens to women as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/23 12:12 AM |
| 7 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.I've always said social skills play a greater factor than looks and certainly things like money. Hell, sometimes it comes down to the right opportunity arriving at the right time. I've never seen anything to back up: "You need to be 6-feet, make 6-figures, and have a six-pack to be appealing to women!" Unfortunately, I was born too early for awareness to be a thing, so i didn't get much support. Combined with a difficult family situation and a lack of friends, i was deeply depressed for a long t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 10:14 PM |
| 6 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.I'm going to have to agree with most of this. For some, you don't have to bring anything to the table to find partners. I've known my share of immature men who find relationships, even if the women eventually get fed up with their crap and end it. One that comes to mind is my age, has two kids, but does nothing. Doesn't cook, doesn't clean, doesn't help out; his mother does all that for him. These guys aren't even that good looking a lot of the time. My issue has always been being autistic, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 09:39 PM |
| 7 | What do women here think of low value men who are aware that they are low value?Lacking experience at an older age is seen as proof you're an immature man-baby. I've seen plenty of women here and sometimes in RL admit that even if they'd dated for months, even if he was a kind, loving man, if he told them about his lack of experience, they'd end the relationship immediately. I usually read from dating coaches, especially feminist ones, that it's all self inflicted but even considering the source, what am I supposed to think? Plus, I've known my share of immature idiots; the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 02:45 AM |
| 5 | What do women here think of low value men who are aware that they are low value?It's a lot easier to do if you can see visible progress, even if you're not where you want to be. Far harder when you don't; there's only so much positive affirmations and saying "it'll happen when it's time" is going to do past a certain point. Worse, there is a stigma beyond a certain age. I asked a couple weeks ago if lacking experience at, say, 30 was a deal breaker and the answer was an overwhelming "Yes!" I try to tune that out. It might be a silly fear, but that doesn't mean I don't have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 02:17 AM |
| 4 | Do women really believe that toxic masculinity is the common factor of sexless lonely men?There's a reason I like that Radicalizing-the-romanceless post so much, because it's one of the best descriptions of this phenomenon. It says a lot that this is one of his most controversial posts, more than immigration and abortion, even. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 08:24 PM |
| 2 | Guys complaining about no dates/marriage perspective. Do you realize how cool is being single?This comes across as a wealthy person telling a poor person: "Money isn't that important!" Relationships are a lot of work; they aren't all sunshine and rainbows. They don't always end well. Yet this is far easier to say when you have the experience, when you have companionship. By and large, men and women are usually happier in a relationship than not. Being isolated, being alone for a long period of time... it's brutal in ways that's hard to describe for those who haven't experienced it. It's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 08:17 PM |
| -1 | Do redpillers have girlfrends?Being a prick doesn't mean you can't be successful with women. The most successful people I've known are men who see women as holes to stick their dicks inside, including having domestic violence arrests. Not to mention co-workers who date and even marry such men. However, this doesn't mean the Red Pill leads to actual relationship success. Its great appeal is among teenagers/young adults who might just be thinking about sex. Sure, it might help if you only give a damn about yourself, but I don'… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/12/23 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Should we encourage Peer Pressure?Not necessarily drinking and partying but yes, making friends as a kid is very important for future prospects. Dating is often through mutual friends, even today. However, it's one of those things that if you don't succeed as a kid, it's very hard later on. I've never had a social circle, so I speak from experience. In my entire childhood, I had maybe 2 friends. One descended into addiction and died of cancer at 21. The other, his mother ripped us apart because she thought I was gay. This matter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 07:58 PM |
| 7 | The red pill says it's all about money, status, looks, and game. Is this true? What would you say are the top traits women ages 24-28 look for in a man when wanting a relationship?The biggest one I've found is social ability. Being able to read the room, read the vibes, pick up on nonverbal cues. Appearing confident is an absolute must, whether you feel confident or not. It's never been a mystery why I struggle with it. However, I don't buy the idea that you need to be 6 feet, gorgeous body, and so on. My mom's boyfriend is 5-4, he was married beforehand, and had numerous relationships as a young man. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/12/23 12:15 AM |
| 21 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesI've always found that the top factor is social ability, even in the day of dating apps. You need to form those connections while you're young, because it's a much harder task once you're older and other people no longer have the time to hang out. They have careers, families/long-term relationships, and other obligations to take care of. That's always been my issue. I'm autistic and I was born too early for it to become a buzzword, meaning I got no support for it. This led to not having friends,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 07:14 PM |
| 2 | The narratives pushed in this sub are not representative of the average dating experienceI agree with you on the first part: that most men do find relationships at some point. I don't think women are in a "Chad harem" or gold diggers or anything similar. Nothing I've seen in life backs that up. Where I disagree is the idea that if women aren't attracted to you, you're a misogynist with a victim mentality. I've seen genuinely horrible people manage fine attracting women, like felons, abusers, gang members, drug dealers, etc. Lot of them aren't even good looking or have any ambition a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 08:18 PM |
| 7 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?It depends. If they start going off on women hitting 'the wall" or 'why would i want a whore who's been run through?", then yeah, I'd find the idea of wanting a woman 18-19 to be icky. Unfortunately, that does tend to be the attitude i see here. However, I do think it gets harder beyond a certain age because you're expected to have experience and it's seen as a moral failing if you don't. I suspect some of it is after-the-fact justification, given I've personally seen violent men, with multiple … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 09:42 PM |
| 3 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?There's one other issue as well: being inexperienced past a certain age is a deal breaker for a lot of people. Plenty aren't willing to bother if, say, you're in your thirties and this is all new to you. It's all right to be inexperienced and nervous if you're 19-20, but not when you're 35. It might not be universal, but it's a long way from rare, too. A virgin male/female isn't necessarily going to be bad at it, assuming they're willing to learn how to please their partner, something even exper… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Can we just avoid "but we have it worse"?Most likely, no. I agree with patriarchy in the sense that most people at the top of the social ladder are men (as are most at the bottom, but that's another topic) Problem is, for some "patriarchy" is almost the feminist equivalent of Satan: responsible for all the ills of the world? Men suffering? Patriarchy! Women suffering? Patriarchy! Conservative women, pro-life women? Internalized misogyny because of the patriarchy! If you want to talk about online dating, for example, the issues usually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 08:05 PM |
| 3 | Would an older man lacking experience be a deal-breaker for you?I rarely interact with her friends; my sister just freaked at the very idea I could ever express interest or try and date someone she knows. A lot of relationships form from people friends and family know, so I figured I'd ask. At my age, it's hard to form connections because people have careers, families, long-term relationships, and other obligations. I can get along with people, so long as I hide my autistic traits, but it rarely goes beyond a surface level. Did finally have some success, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 05:19 AM |
| 2 | Would an older man lacking experience be a deal-breaker for you?I'm not blind to the fact that I've got a major uphill battle ahead of me. Positive affirmations every day, pep talks every day, trying to get back into meditation, search for new locations to meet others, and so on. I go to the gym and have a physical job on top of that. Much as I attempt to be optimistic, I recognize the possibility that romantic relationships aren't in the cards for me. Living in a rural area makes matters even more difficult. If that turns out to be the case, well... I'll go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 04:36 AM |
| 3 | Would an older man lacking experience be a deal-breaker for you?I'll use myself as an example. There are multiple reasons, but the biggest is my autism and the lack of support I received. It led to a lot of emotional problems that while I've made a lot of progress, I'm still trying to work through. It's not a bottomless pit of despair or anything like that, but I'll admit to moments where it gets to me. As for PPD, I don't get the impression that RP or the black pill is anything close to mainstream. Outside of Reddit or Twitter, I've never heard those sorts … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 03:54 AM |
| 0 | Would an older man lacking experience be a deal-breaker for you?I do know relationships are a learning process, and something you can only truly learn through experience. Young love, shallow as it often is, does give you an idea of what to do and what not to. However, we get judged for different things. Women face more scrutiny for physical appearance than men do, while for us, social ability is the crucial factor. Even today, men are usually expected to take the initiative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 03:24 AM |
| 5 | Would an older man lacking experience be a deal-breaker for you?Yes, I can accept people's flaws. However, I do have deal breakers, like drug and alcohol abuse; that I won't tolerate. Autism seems to be the biggest factor in lacking experience at an older age. Once asked my sister if she knew anyone and her response was: "Fuck, no! I don't want you perving on my friends!" I've been trying to form them, but it's very hard to build a social circle from scratch at my age. Rarely had them as a kid, which contributed to my emotional difficulties back then. I go t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 03:17 AM |
| 10 | Would an older man lacking experience be a deal-breaker for you?I expect there is something of a catch-22 playing out. As a guy, you need confidence to attract women, and someone who hasn't had any luck for that long is likely to have a very difficult time having confidence. There's only so long you can fake it through affirmations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 03:05 AM |
| 7 | Would an older man lacking experience be a deal-breaker for you?I admit, I'm in that position myself: 34 and only been on a single date, never a relationship. I do my best to keep up hope, be optimistic, telling myself "it'll happen when it's meant to happen" and all that. Plenty of people, especially on here, like to tell me that it's hopeless, but I'm trying not to listen to them. I'm on the spectrum and that makes reading body language difficult. However, I did manage to make a real-life friend for the first time in 15 years, so I'm happy about that. I su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 03:00 AM |
| 7 | Would an older man lacking experience be a deal-breaker for you?So how did that play out in terms of him telling you? It's pretty normal to be nervous in your first relationship, doubly so when you're at an age where most already have experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 02:28 AM |
| 2 | Women Love to Invalidate Men's ExperiencesI've noticed for all the talk of intersectionality, there are only two that really "count": race and gender. If you're a white man, your job is to acknowledge your privilege and shut the hell up. Doesn't matter if you're poor, an abusive past, disability, whatever. You live life on the easiest difficulty setting, in a world that caters to you. Race and gender are obvious, while things like disabilities often aren't. It stinks but that's the way it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 11:42 PM |
| 1 | I Don’t Think Women Fully Comprehend The Shame of Being a Male Virgin As He Moves Through His 20sPast a certain age, it's less about sex and more wanting to experience that sort of intimacy and connection with a partner. Lacking experience at 21 is one thing; lacking experience at 35-40 is quite another. At the latter age, there becomes a stigma, with many partners being unwilling to put up with someone who doesn't know what they're doing. It's not universal, but if your choice is a partner who has no experience at 35-40 or someone who knows what they're doing, in terms of intimacy and rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 10:15 PM |
| 6 | I Don’t Think Women Fully Comprehend The Shame of Being a Male Virgin As He Moves Through His 20sMy problem has always been being autistic and not getting support for it early on. It's a lot harder to build a social circle at my age. Still trying, but while I've managed to make a bit of progress, there's a long distance before finding an actual partner. Most of my former peers are married and have kids, and I'm at the age where not knowing what to do can be a deal-breaker. I still can't read body language, so much of what I do in interactions is guesswork. I still look for groups, try new t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 03:57 AM |
| 21 | I Don’t Think Women Fully Comprehend The Shame of Being a Male Virgin As He Moves Through His 20s20s? Heh, try being in your mid-30s with no experience beyond a single date. I agree there's more to life than sex and relationships, but that's something far more easily said when it isn't you. All too often, it comes across like a wealthy person telling a poor person: "Money isn't all that important!" Usually when I hear things like "Life's not worth living if I can't get laid!", it's someone in their late teens, early 20s. Generally men, but sometimes women. As you get older, though, it's les… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 02:20 AM |
| 11 | Men’s loneliness epidemic is not women’s problem.In some cases, there may not be an easy solution, or a solution at all. One thing to decide to say you have other things to worry about; another to declare male loneliness and isolation as a moral failing, that it's proof they're entitled and misogynistic. I've struggled with it most of my life, had maybe two friends throughout my entire childhood (neither of them ended well) I was autistic before that became a buzzword, so I didn't get support. I'm still trying to change things, improve my circ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Is there such thing as luck in dating or is it all based on your accomplishments or hard work?There is a certain amount of luck involved, yes. Some things improve your chances: good looks, social ability, where you live, your income, your family background, but on other occasions, it can be the right opportunity coming at the right time. Also, positive results lead to positive thoughts more than the other way around. It's a lot easier to keep going if you can see progress. Like... your goal was to lose 50 pounds in a year, but you ended up losing 30, which is still decent. However, if af… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?Would have replied in the original thread, but that was closed, so I figured I'd mention it to someone who can actually relate to this. If I do end up meeting her, I'll be sure to mention it. Like I said, just the possibility boosts my mood quite a bit, and I think that's often ignored by people for whom relationships simply happen. If it doesn't, well... back to the drawing board, I guess. I've been slowly forming connections for perhaps the first time in my adult life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 11:16 PM |
| 6 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?Adding to what you said about "limited" experience versus "zero", there's also a big difference between lacking experience at 21 and having no experience at 35. In the former, yes, you're a late bloomer when compared to your peers. However, you've still got time to fix things, form connections, meet other people without being considered a freak. At 35... by this point, most people have kids, families, marriages, long-term relationships, and may not have the patience for someone who fell behind. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Do adult men without social circles really have a chance?I go to the gym, I go to a dance event whenever I have a day off work, a couple museums I go to, and local events if they spark my interest. Some people are friendly but it hasn't led to anything more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 03:27 PM |
| 16 | Do adult men without social circles really have a chance?It's a lot harder to find a partner without one. I don't have a social circle, outside of talking to a few people at work. I'm still trying, but being autistic and lacking support for this, it's not an easy task. Beyond a certain age, people have lives, families, careers, long-term relationships, and don't have the time they once did. Those I know who do have social circle usually built them as children. Not much to do but keep trying and hope for the best. Body language is still very hard, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 12:44 AM |
| 3 | The 80/20 idea is nonsense but I do think there's a "romantic underclass" of sortsBecause I've never seen any evidence for the idea of: "Women only want Chad, and everyone else is doomed!" Surveys on the number of lifetime partners don't reflect this, and while it's hard to get accurate data, when you're talking having 40-50 partners, only a tiny percentage of men and women are this high. Nor do the STD rates indicate a "Chad Harem". Also, I haven't seen any of it in my own life. Plenty of ordinary men find partners, sometimes multiple partners, men that are less attractive t… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/10/23 10:32 PM |
| 3 | The 80/20 idea is nonsense but I do think there's a "romantic underclass" of sortsIn my case, most of it was being on the autism spectrum. This is before awareness became a thing, meaning I didn't get any support for it, leading to isolation and rejection by my peers. I had a lot of emotional problems from it and other factors, which impacted my grades as well. My entire high school had 170 students, so once I had a reputation as being weird, they didn't want me around; downside of rural areas. I can mostly pass for neurotypical now, but reading body language is still very di… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/10/23 09:54 PM |
| 12 | The 80/20 idea is nonsense but I do think there's a "romantic underclass" of sortsWell, when I was a teenager, RP wasn't really a thing. Most of us were still using Myspace, if we had a profile at all. I've seen plenty of ordinary people manage fine, so the idea of a "Chad harem" has never had anything to back it up. My Mom's boyfriend is 5'4, he was married before they got together, and he had numerous relationships as a young man. My difficulties finding a partner have far more to do with being autistic than looks. However, that doesn't mean this doesn't eat at me sometimes… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/10/23 06:27 AM |
| 10 | "Neurodivergence" has become a trendy excuse for dating strugglesBeing autistic absolutely makes dating harder. Not only from the outset, but the way you're treated among peers is often: "Stay away, you're different!" I didn't start out shy; I became that way through years of mistreatment, of not understanding why things that seemed so easy to those around me were difficult, if not impossible. If I had the choice, I'd get rid of it in a heartbeat, but autism's something I'm stuck with. I still go out, still try to meet people, socialize when I can, but haven'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 03:38 AM |
| 14 | “Women lose value as they get older”Only if you're shallow enough to consider physical beauty to be the sole factor in how suitable a partner is. I'm 34 and I'd be real skittish about dating women that young. I won't pretend physical appearance isn't a factor, but I'm looking for someone who's affectionate, fun, who I can have intelligent conversations with, who's willing to understand my disability. All that's more important than looks or so-called "purity." | /r/ExRedPill | 27/10/23 10:51 PM |
| 0 | Porn is mostly positive for menI think it's harmful, especially beyond a certain point, but if you're someone who's never had much luck finding a real-life relationship, you're unlikely to have much motivation to abstain. Even deeply religious people find themselves looking more often than they want to admit, especially since all you need to do is type in a couple words; gone are the days where men had to hide Playboys in their room. And women consume plenty of it as well. If you take erotica into account, not merely sites li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 02:44 AM |
| 2 | It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years.I'm going to have to agree with this. I had very little success forming friendships in school, always being considered a freak of nature no one wanted to be caught dead around, unless it was to torment me. I'm still trying to form them, but I haven't had much success. People have other obligations and often aren't looking for new members of their social circle. The older I get, the more difficult this becomes. I'm autistic and was born before awareness became a thing, meaning I received minimal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 01:54 AM |
| 4 | Is it just me or are female RP creators more extreme than the men?Noticed that with female teachers as well. They were always stricter than the men. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/10/23 03:33 AM |
| 5 | Is it just me or are female RP creators more extreme than the men?I generally don't care for that term, since I see it used for any woman who votes Republican, is pro-life, or even doesn't agree with 100% of feminism. Pearl, however... her videos go on and on about how men are smarter, women are stupid whores, any non-virgin is worthless... (Given she's not a virgin, what does that say?) It's honestly scarier if she does believe all this. I have my doubts, but like I said, her being a grifter is preferable to the alternative. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/10/23 03:00 AM |
| 6 | Is it just me or are female RP creators more extreme than the men?Strange as it might sound, I've seen more slut-shaming and body-shaming from women than men. I've always heard a stunning lack of empathy for those suffering from domestic violence. Given how many views some of these content creators have, there's sadly quite a demand. She's gotten over a billion views altogether. She's far from the only female RP guru, but does seem to be among the most popular. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/10/23 02:36 AM |
| 2 | I'm struggling to not fall into redpillEvery woman who ever claimed she liked me was pulling a prank, sometimes to get money, but usually just for amusement. I had an online friend many years ago who was such an unhinged lunatic, I had to block 40 of her accounts, someone who attacked me for years. Her behavior was such that I attempted to create a fictional character based off her, only to be told I was a raging misogynist. (Even though i toned down certain aspects of her behavior) 3 years of online dating, itself a last resort, led… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/10/23 09:54 PM |
| 3 | Do you actually think dating was better in the past?In some ways, yes. In other ways, no. 30 years ago, people had more friends, more social connections, which is still crucial when it comes to meeting potential partners. This isn't to say there weren't people that failed to do this, but it wasn't as common. For me specifically, the result would probably have been the same, perhaps worse. For society as a whole... men and women have been more isolated, a trend that's only accelerated since Covid. Worse, beyond a certain age, it's harder to form t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 03:15 PM |
| 3 | What is the main reason men are single 2023Sometimes, all it takes is the right opportunity coming at the right time. That ended up happening for your friend, but unfortunately, not for you. Those on the spectrum I've spoken to who did have success somehow managed to form a social circle as children, despite being different. I don't think it's being unattractive. I'm not especially good-looking, but I've seen guys uglier than me manage fine. Ditto for those shorter than me as well, so I don't believe the whole: "If you're not Chad, you'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 03:05 PM |
| 4 | Women have zero tolerance policy for even slightly socially awkward menFor women, being shy can be cute and endearing. Much less so for men. I've said many times that social skills play a bigger factor than physical appearance does. Plenty of ordinary guys succeed in finding partners, including those who are short. My mom's boyfriend is 5'4 and he had multiple relationships. Men are usually expected to make the first move, not an easy thing to do. Being autistic means I'm stuck being socially awkward, no matter I study body language, so I know this through experien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 05:53 PM |
| 11 | Is it just me, or are RP men becoming indistinguishable from American conservatives?I live in a location that voted Trump by more than a 2-1 margin, but I don't hear people going on about how stupid women are and how men need to lead them. I do hear about the lack of religion causing social problems, but it's usually from women. In fact, I do think people being less religious has led to difficulties, since church was often your community, with friends and family surrounding you. Nor have I ever heard complaints about birth control. Taking away women's right to vote is not somet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 08:50 AM |
| 5 | "Just have a huge social circle" is as pointless advice as "just be attractive"Autism is the one common factor I've seen over and over. I see short men who are successful, as are men more obese than I am. Few men end up romanceless in their late 20s,30s, but of those who are, autism's a common theme. Sadly, I don't see a better solution beyond: "keep trying and hope for the best". Began attending an informal dance workshop a couple weeks ago. And yes, I am making the effort to approach. Not easy, especially with women in a group, but I'm doing it. The answer's mostly "no",… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 04:25 AM |
| 31 | How is misandry different from other forms of biogtry in a way that make it acceptable?Men are seen as deserving targets, where "male culture" or "entitlement" is responsible for how the worst examples behave. And when you've got legitimate trauma, it's even easier to be angry at men. Spend a few minutes in the Twoxchromosomes thread. Problem is, evil men can do far more evil than good men can do good. If I'm lucky, I could perhaps impact the lives of a few women for the better. The likes of Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein can impact the lives of hundreds for the worse. Not only t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 01:58 AM |
| 26 | Why is it that autistic women have much more attractive traits than autistic men?If you're a socially awkward woman, it can be cute and endearing. Not to say being on the spectrum doesn't come with its own dangers, but as a woman, you generally don't have to make the first move. Being an autistic male... social awkwardness is a death sentence for dating when male, far more so than physical appearance. I've seen plenty uglier than me manage fine with the opposite sex; short men too. I happen to be one of those autistic men. I know in theory how it's supposed to be done. Probl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:47 PM |
| – | It seems like men fail to understand that the attention that women get is not the compliment or even a privilegeI am indeed speaking from first-hand experience, which is why I mention its difficulty. And all too often, there's not a good answer, especially when you're beyond the age where people have a lot of free time to socialize. Worse is the attitude that you're just some loser who does nothing but watch porn and play games, no matter how hard you work. It's seen as your fault regardless. I work hard to change things every day, but that doesn't mean there aren't moments it gets discouraging. I expect … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:05 PM |
| – | It seems like men fail to understand that the attention that women get is not the compliment or even a privilegeI expect that's true. I'm aware of the kind of shit women have to deal with. My sister's been stalked a couple times and my female co-workers have spoken about the kind of things customers say to them. At the same time, I don't think many people have a grasp of what it can be like to be without any sort of positive attention or compliments for a prolonged period. Despite the stereotype, we want love and affection too, not just sex. Even today, the man is expected to make the first move every ste… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 06:52 PM |
| 5 | CMV: "Emotional vulnerability" is true, albeit misleadingAnd it's basically on you to fix it if you're a guy, autistic or not. It sucks, it's unfair, it's infuriating, but a lot of the time, that's just the way it is, given how many people think those on the spectrum are dangerous, stupid, invalid, including people here. I'm also aware that however much I might seethe over the injustice of being treated this way because of a trait I was born with, there's very little I can do about it. I'm still trying, putting myself out there, "touching grass", howe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 11:07 PM |
| 18 | CMV: "Emotional vulnerability" is true, albeit misleadingReminds me of that "Self-Made Man" novel by Norah Vincent, where she lived for a year as a man. One of the things she discovered is, if she ever talked about her feelings, it became an instant turn-off for women. All too often, I've found this myself. When it comes to my autism, the solution seems to be: "Don't ever disclose it, no matter what!" I've lost count of how many times I've been told it's an excuse, that I just don't want to make any genuine effort, that it's a kid's disorder, that I "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 08:43 PM |
| 8 | is there a link between autism and red pilled men?Being autistic, I've found one, since autistic men are far less likely to have relationships. I've seen short men in relationships, obese men in relationships, poor men in relationships, but social skills are the keystone for dating. This is harder for those on the spectrum, especially if you didn't get support for it, which I did not. The Red Pill promises: "Follow my program and you'll drown in pussy!" If you're someone for whom conventional methods aren't worked, or, worse, are shamed and att… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/09/23 01:42 AM |
| 5 | Was I wrong all alongYou notice many of these contradict each other? How can women sleep with hundreds of men if they only want men who are six feet and six figures, given the small numbers of men who fit one of those criteria, let alone both? The number of people who have slept with 50-100+ partners.... you're talking maybe 1-2% of the population, lower if sex workers aren't taken into account. My mom's boyfriend is 5'4, he was married before they got together, and had numerous relationships as a young man. Nor is … | /r/ExRedPill | 16/09/23 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Worried about my inexperience being a deal breakerI've lost count of the number of articles and books I've read on the topic. I know how it works in theory, but it never seems to work out in practice. Body language is hard for me, and that's 90% of communication. I can interact with people at a surface level, but it rarely goes deeper than that, since people have their own lives and families. It'd be easier if I could tell others in expectation of a bit of understanding. Unfortunately, most of the time, it makes the responses worse, and a minor… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/09/23 02:58 AM |
| 3 | Worried about my inexperience being a deal breakerI did and my initial forays into dating were such a disaster that it stopped me trying again for a long time. To give one example, I once tried to compliment a classmate who I thought looked down; clumsy, but I was trying to cheer her up. Next thing you know, they're threatening to get the cops involved. I still come across as a bit different and more so when I was younger, so it frightened women. That sort of stuff stays with me, since it ended up being so much worse than: "Worst-case scenario … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/09/23 02:36 AM |
| 3 | Worried about my inexperience being a deal breakerWell, hearing people rant "Women are entitled, disgusting bitches competing for the right to suck Chad's dick!" was enough to never want anything to do with that mentality. That doesn't mean my lack of success doesn't get to me at times. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/09/23 02:13 AM |
| 6 | Worried about my inexperience being a deal breakerI personally don't think lacking experience at 20 is a huge deal, even if you've got macho idiots blustering about it. I'm a poor liar and I'd like to find a woman who'd be willing to be patient. It doesn't come up in real life much, though I've overheard conversations of women turning down men for being inexperienced at 25-26. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/09/23 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenDepends on the circumstances. At my job, even with attractive women showing off the goods... I might look a few times, but 5 minutes later, I'll have forgotten them. When I was in school, I was always attracted to the smart girls, not the stunners; they just didn't return my interest. Now it's rare for me to approach a woman with intent to ask her out, since I've had it backfire on me so many times. And I mean far worse responses than "no, I'm not interested." On dating sites, I sometimes messag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:00 PM |
| 2 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsEven if you have other things, it gets to you, especially when lacking success is treated as a moral failing. As for not being misogynistic... had a conversation with one of my co-workers where she decided to marry her teenage sweetheart when he's in prison. He disappeared on her as a teenager because he shot someone in the face during a drug deal. He's currently in prison for raping his girlfriend. Those aren't red flags; that's a siren going off at 170 decibels. This is a woman who looks about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:23 AM |
| 1 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsSometimes, all you need is the right opportunity at the right time to move forward. Even if it doesn't work out, just knowing it's possible is huge. Most people end up with this opportunity, even some that are socially awkward. "Positive thoughts lead to positive results" is the classic advice, but I believe the opposite to be true; positive results lead to positive thoughts. Say... okay, she didn't become your girlfriend, but you got her number and went on a date, even if it didn't progress fur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:22 AM |
| 3 | How do you think dating will change and evolve within the next decade?The reality is, people aren't likely to care that you've fallen behind in life, regardless of the reasons. If the conventional methods don't work, every word out of your mouth is going to sound like an excuse. Not fair, but that's the way it is. I'm still trying to figure out how to change things, form connections, go out more, and so on. I ended up moving to online because I lacked real-world connections, always being told: "Stay away, you're different!" Today, I'm friendly with a few people at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 09:42 PM |
| 8 | How do you think dating will change and evolve within the next decade?I can't speak for the UK, but in the U.S., decreasing church attendance has led to a lot of negative consequences. Churches were often sexist, and certainly homophobic, but they provided a community for people. I agree with religious individuals that people turning away has led to problems, albeit for different reasons than they claim. I don't doubt being religious makes you happier. Even if it's nothing more than a placebo, this belief there's a God who loves you and looks after you likely help… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 07:41 PM |
| 3 | Should guys be jealous of women getting experience before then if they still get the women in the end?That reminds me of a feminist dating coach I sometimes read. His advice to "late bloomers" is essentially "the obstacles are self-inflicted." Even if you've never so much as been kissed at 45, it has to be "peace, total peace, nothing but peace", so help you God, when it comes to your lack of experience. By his own admission, he felt like the last living virgin on earth, feeling constant torment, until he lost it at the age of 19, after having several relationships. I've come to a similar conclu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Should guys be jealous of women getting experience before then if they still get the women in the end?My concern would be more that my lack of experience being a dealbreaker, and even if not universal, it can be one beyond a certain age. I'd be happy to accept her as my partner, provided she's willing to be a little patient with me. I do struggle with insecurities and feeling like I missed out on one of those fundamental human experiences. I do everything I can to work on this, but it's still there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 11:04 PM |
| 1 | [Updated] *Some* lonely men can benefit greatly from seeing escorts.Probably a silly fear, but there are times I worry about my lack of experience being a deal breaker for a partner. I'm a week shy of 34, with no more than a single date. Most of my peers have children and are in marriages/long-term relationships. Suppose you do get to meet interesting people, but I've been told it can be very dangerous for an escort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 10:48 PM |
| 1 | [Updated] *Some* lonely men can benefit greatly from seeing escorts.I will admit, I do occasionally think of seeing an escort. The main reason I don't is, I don't think it would solve my fundamental difficulties. Hence why I don't go to strip clubs anymore, even if they're not the same thing. If it's not too personal a question, what is the job like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 10:24 PM |
| 12 | [Updated] *Some* lonely men can benefit greatly from seeing escorts.Perhaps it would benefit a few men, but I don't think it's true of the majority. Loneliness goes far deeper than mere sexual desire. From my experience, I went to strip clubs for a while, and while it might have been fun for a short time, I always felt hollow and empty afterward. Not quite the same thing, but it's related. I know it's common to say "all men care about is sex", but that's not generally true after teenagers. Even at that age, it's far from universal. We want love and affection as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 09:50 PM |
| 7 | Do RP guys ever realize that grifters like Tate et al are only filling their heads full of stuff that's making them undateable?The Red Pill attracts two groups of people: impressionable teenagers and lonely men who haven't had much luck finding a romantic partner. When you've lacked success for a long time, and you see these programs, complete with gurus, that promise you'll be irresistible, it'll have a lot of appeal. I know what it's like to be in that position: lonely, with any sign of a romantic partner seeming impossible. What they need is a viable alternative, not just: "Learn to love yourself, focus on yourself, … | /r/ExRedPill | 07/09/23 04:12 AM |
| 6 | No, being neurodivergent is not the reason why you’re struggling at datingFunny, I work hard every day to compensate for being on the spectrum. Not an easy thing to do when you lack support, an unfortunate side effect of being born too early for all the "awareness" campaigns. I bombard myself with positive self-talk every day, study body language in every conversation, even meditate, albeit less often than I should. I can compensate to a point, adapt to a point, but nothing's going to turn me into a neurotypical. Given my informal surveys of Virgin/FA forums have arou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 08:15 PM |
| 5 | I feel like most of the relationship burden is on menEven knowing I shouldn't, I tend to feel that way. Most of the time, the guy's expected to make the first move every step of the way; at least how I've always seen it play out. The dating game's one that I've never understood. However, I'm aware that even if casual sex may technically be easier for women (and even here, it's not an absolute), that doesn't make it easier to find relationships. Women get judged more in terms of physical appearance. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/09/23 11:37 PM |
| 12 | Is it true autistic guys are too shy for women, which does not seem to be the case in my experience?I didn't start out as shy. I became that way through years of rejection and bullying, having things blow up in my face when I said the wrong thing. It still occurs even in my adult life; a miscommunication about got me into a fistfight at my Christmas party. So it's not a minor mistake you can laugh at looking back. I still go out, talk to people, but it never progresses beyond a surface level. However, being socially awkward is a dating death sentence for men. Even today, men usually have to ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 02:45 AM |
| 1 | The average man is shamed when he has standards. How to make someone understand that this is not cool?My own standards are fairly low. I'm not going to tolerate drug and alcohol abuse. No matter how attractive a woman might be, nothing is worth going through that sort of hell. Unfortunately, plenty of people are shallow, and this goes for both genders. Standards vary from person to person, but neither men nor women have a monopoly for unrealistic expectations. I'm all right with standards; I have a much bigger problem with hypocrisy, like a man wanting a virgin/low body count girlfriend while hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 01:00 AM |
| 4 | Do TRULY average men actually struggle to date and have sex?Yes, average men do struggle to find partners and can go for long stretches without them. However, "struggle" doesn't equal "impossible". They generally have at least 1-2 girlfriends as a teenager, even if they didn't necessarily have sex with her. I see normal people, even unattractive people, with partners every day at my job. In terms of having abundant casual sex, most likely no, although they may encounter it at some point. But most women aren't having abundant casual sex, either. I've seen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Theres a 'wall' for men as well, the wall of incompetence, where you fall behind in comparison to your peers and men your ageWhich is precisely the issue I face. Being on the autism spectrum makes such milestones more difficult from the outset, not to mention being excluded. I'm doing everything I can to catch up, and I have made progress, but I'm not blind to the fact that I have one hell of an uphill battle to do so. If you don't get your footing when you're young, it's extremely difficult to do when you're older. The reasons for this don't matter much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 10:17 PM |
| 3 | Are posts about autism on this sub exaggerating?My own thoughts are: not every autistic individual is Forever Alone, any more than every obese person becomes diabetic, or every smoker ends up with long cancer, but it does worsen your odds. A lot of it seems to depend on what happens during your childhood. I watched a video on someone in his 40s on the spectrum who hasn't had much luck dating. He mentioned as a young kid, he found friends, but at the age of 10, his family moved, and he was never able to repeat the process. This was in the late… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 03:02 AM |
| 3 | Are posts about autism on this sub exaggerating?I've been practicing my whole life. Made progress, but it's a big struggle to connect to people beyond a surface level, let alone find a partner. Not every autistic individual is doomed. Some are indeed successful with women, but it worsens your odds, especially if you didn't get support or acceptance for it, which I unfortunately didn't. I was born a little too early for the awareness campaigns. Autism is still seen as a kid's disorder; no resources for adults where I am. I've said many times s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 02:49 AM |
| 2 | My boyfriend is a red piller, help!With the statistics you mentioned, I've seen them bounce all over the place. They're often cherry-picked, hence why I look real close at who is responsible for making them. It's one thing if they merely stumbled across it and were impressionable, but based on your description, it sounds like they've fallen deep into the rabbit hole. If he's treating you that way, you have zero obligation to put up with any of it. It's sad to say, but if you want a more traditional life, I wouldn't choose someone… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/08/23 02:04 AM |
| 6 | Does redpill beliefs spill into your work/career?I've honestly never heard these sorts of things discussed at my job. I might sound naive, but I don't think most people subscribe to these sorts of beliefs. Admittedly, social dynamics often go over my head, but while RP has grown in the last 5-10 years, I don't think it's a substantial number. However, the person I know who's the most misogynistic is the most successful, if you consider only "body count." I don't think he's RP as much as just a dirtbag who can't stay out of jail, can't stay out… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/08/23 11:07 PM |
| 16 | Being neurodivergent is a death sentence for menNot a death sentence, but it does make things more difficult. I'm on the autism spectrum and I can say it's made it very difficult, especially given that help wasn't available. I can adapt and compensate to a certain agree, but at the end of the day, I cannot turn myself into a neurotypical. I've said many times social skills are key for men when dating. I see unattractive, obese men with partners all the time, despite often not being believed. Autism, however... even if it's anecdotal, I've see… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Lashing out doesn’t make people want to hear you outI'm aware lashing out isn't proper, but being ignored or dismissed whenever you try to talk about certain issues is frustrating. There are numerous things I've learned not to disclose in my life, because whenever I do, every word out of their mouths make clear they don't have the slightest understanding. My difficulties don't have a great answer, either, beyond: "keep trying and hope for the best." Hollow as that sounds, it's the best I've got. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 01:56 AM |
| 1 | How to talk to a guy to make him re-evaluate his red pill beliefsHe might change his viewpoints, but it isn't your job to be his Magic Pixie Dream Girl. I understand how the red pill can have a certain appeal to men, particularly for lonely individuals. Even if I feel a little bad for him, however, it doesn't justify those sorts of hostile attitudes. I'm in the position that while I've never followed the RP, I can understand the mentality of those who did. He's unlikely to change his mind, and you trying to do so is likely to be seen as "some entitled, arroga… | /r/ExRedPill | 24/08/23 04:41 AM |
| 5 | Can women be trusted? (Seriously)Some can, some can't, same as men. Being "clueless" is not something that's gender-specific. Given how many rants I've read about: "Women are entitled harpies competing for the right to suck Chad's dick!" when I've never seen anything to back up the so-called 80-20 rule indicates to me they don't have much idea. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/08/23 10:07 PM |
| – | Telling people to get a better personality in order to date is pointlessThe biggest factor when it comes to dating is social ability, the ability to pick up on non-verbal cues, and being able to draw people to them. Whether platonic or romantic. Yes, looks are a factor as well, but I've seen unattractive men with partners. Same for short men. Social awkwardness, however, is a death sentence for men. Even today, it's usually the man's job to make the first move at every step. Yes, there are exceptions, but that's usually how it goes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 05:15 PM |
| 1 | How do I cope with the fact that I've never gotten any compliment from women in my entire life?I understand the feeling. Other than my mother, I've never gotten any compliments on my appearance in the outside world. I've gotten the occasional one online, although insults tend to be more common. Didn't take care of myself when I was younger and while I'm doing what I can to fix it, there's a lot of damage to undo. It's a bit of a catch-22. Women often don't give compliments because the guy then assumes they have feelings for them (not always, but often enough). The reason guys may think th… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/08/23 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Did you watch H3 Podcast with JustPearlyThings? What do you think about it?I consider the "internalized misogyny" term used far too broadly, but in Pearl's case, I'm willing to use it. She's been described as a grifter, and while there may be something to it, her genuinely believing this would concern me more. To me, having a woman become the face of the Red Pill only makes it more dangerous and appealing. "If there's women saying it, it can't be wrong!" | /r/ExRedPill | 18/08/23 03:25 AM |
| 0 | Imagine how much better the world would be if there was no gender wars.Great as that sounds, it's never going to happen. People are bastards and we'll find some reason to dislike one another. Horrible as what the manosphere says, there are women who have every bit the hostility toward men as the reverse. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/08/23 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Purple pill debate sub has been bannedI spent plenty of my time there. I couldn't help but notice my posts that I put a lot of thought to were removed while ones proclaiming: "Women are entitled harpies riding the Chad Cock Carousel!" could stand without any issues. Trying to be at least relatively reasonable meant both red-pillers and feminists despised whatever I had to say. I consider RP to be misogyny, but don't fully fit into the feminist mold, either. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/08/23 04:49 AM |
| 5 | A certain type of account of having sex seems to get quite a lot of attention is RP spaces. Thoughts?If all you care about is getting laid, sure. That doesn't mean it's a healthy dynamic or one that should be copied. I've also seen posts of men who have been married for years, discover the Red Pill, and destroy their marriage in a matter of months. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/08/23 09:13 PM |
| 6 | Who else has autism/aspergers?Even for neurotypicals, the effort usually isn't effortless. Especially when you're talking about dating, there are all sorts of miscommunications, mistakes, awkwardness, and so on. However, autism adds an additional difficulty, because not only is this harder for you to read, you're likely to get less opportunity to practice. It's hard not to see how overrepresented autistic men are among life-in-life virgins. It doesn't doom you, any more than smoking dooms you to lung cancer, but it worsens y… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/08/23 03:54 AM |
| 7 | Who else has autism/aspergers?I expect because those on the autism spectrum, like myself, are far more likely to have never experienced relationships even in their late 20s-30s. I've said many times social ability is a far better indicator of success than things like height or money. When you've never gotten anywhere, when the usual advice you receive does nothing, you're going to start looking for answers. I might not be part of RP, but I still understand the temptation. In Virgin/FA forums, while the exact number of those … | /r/ExRedPill | 06/08/23 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Can a extremely misogynistic man be saved with maybe therapy? Anyone here that was very misogynistic change for the better? How/why? Did anyone become less misogynistic after getting in a relationship?Perhaps he can, but you're not obligated to stick around while he works through his misogynistic views. I'm not a professional therapist, but this can very easily turn into him venting his frustrations onto you. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/23 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Is the youtuber teal swan a toxic manosphere/ red pill youtuber or not someone I should watch ?I personally haven't heard of her. Who I am more familiar with is Pearl Davis and the description of a "female Andrew Tate" sounds pretty accurate. You've got to be pretty extreme to want to repeal the 19th Amendment. In a way, it's more dangerous for women preaching red pill ideology because that can make it more acceptable, say you're not really being sexist. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/23 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Avoiding redpillThere are exceptions, but as a general rule, men are supposed to make the first move. I've heard more than one woman say they want him to go first, occasionally in the very same conversation where they complain about men hitting on them. Gets a mite confusing. I mean, my issue with the Red Pill movement is the attitude that women are entitled, hypergamous gold diggers, not helping men learn how to date. I said she was pretty because she looked sad and I was trying to cheer her up, admittedly in … | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/23 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Avoiding redpillIf it's been prolonged, even that will seen welcoming. I once read a blog post by an RP follower going into detail about enduring 12 years without intimacy. Of following the advice people told him, defending women from players, only to see those same women sleep with the people they complain about, of these guys bragging that they had sex with the woman he wanted a relationship with. He admitted there were occasions it made him suicidal. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/23 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Avoiding redpillI expect some of it is learning "game." There's a kernel of validity to it in that men generally have to make the first move at every step, from asking her out, to kissing, to sex, and that's tricky. Physical appearance also matters, even if it's not everything. My issue isn't so much bettering yourself, learning dating body language, as it is this attitude women are just entitled, hypergamous, delusional, and so on. Chad's a term for a handsome, successful, confident man that has little difficu… | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/23 01:09 AM |
| 2 | Avoiding redpillIn their case, it tends to be "body count." Not so much committed relationships as just being able to sleep with them. The idea of a so-called "Chad harem" where the top men have all the women while everyone else struggles for scraps. Peer pressure was more an issue for me in my younger years, as I wanted a social circle and couldn't form one. Still do, but I've gotten used to the lack. As I said, though, the games the OP mentioned about insulting women, never being willing to give your girlfrie… | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/23 12:18 AM |
| 7 | Avoiding redpillFrom what I've read, the rationale is: "The Red Pill gave me success when nothing else did." For someone who's been lonely for a long time, it'll have a lot of appeal. Outside of teenagers, RP appeals to lonely men the most. It offers a concrete method, rather than "Focus on yourself and it will come." But it's very difficult to keep that mask up 24/7, speaking as someone who has to mask just to get through daily life. At some point, it's going to slip and being unwilling to give your girlfriend… | /r/ExRedPill | 24/07/23 09:55 PM |
| 10 | What are your thoughts on OnlyFans?There's still a lot of exploitation. I think it's hypocritical to condemn women for having an OnlyFans while at the same time consuming porn. Very few don't look at it at least on occasion. It certainly isn't a career I'd want for any family member, but I suppose in the end, it's their choice. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/07/23 11:04 PM |
| 4 | For ex-redpills: do you still keep up with any content creators in the Manosphere ?Wasn't part of the Red Pill, but sometimes I look at JustPearlyThings, the main reason being that what she says is so outrageous, it's hard to take seriously. Read a couple articles calling her a "female Andrew Tate", which sounds about right. Maybe I should take it more seriously, given the following of such people, but it just sounds ludicrous to me. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/07/23 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Is someone with autism more susceptible too the red pill ?Sure, I'll take the hugs. I'm actually a very hugging person, but very rarely get to act on it. I still remember the last hug I hadn't gotten from my mother; it was the first in... quite a long time, I'll put it that way. Your experience has been a lot worse, though, and just saying "I'm sorry" feels pretty hollow. Might sound strange, but a fair amount of the commentators in the "manosphere" are women. So are some of the gurus. My issue isn't giving dating advice; it's the attitude of seeing wo… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/07/23 01:42 AM |
| 5 | Update post about autism and the red pillGlad to hear it. Despite its surface-level attraction, it's an ugly road, especially given the increasing intersection between the Red Pill and the Black Pill. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/07/23 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Is someone with autism more susceptible too the red pill ?From what I've seen, the Red Pill primarily attracts two groups: impressionable teenagers and men who haven't had much luck finding a relationship. It offers an answer: "Follow this program and women will find you irresistible!" It sounds better than what you tend to hear, along the lines of: "Learn to love yourself and what's meant to be will find its way to you." Adding my story (not sure if this is allowed), I'm almost 34 and I've never had a relationship. Never had sex, never had a girlfrien… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/07/23 11:12 PM |
| 8 | Is someone with autism more susceptible too the red pill ?As someone on the spectrum, I think so. The Red Pill is quite appealing for those who haven't had much success with women, and a lot of autistic individuals fall into that group. I've never seen any evidence for short men or heavy men being unable to find partners, but autism is where I have seen a strong correlation. Being in that position, I understand the attraction, but it isn't a path you want to go down. So much of it isn't even learning how to date as it is ranting that "women are entitle… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/07/23 10:05 PM |
| 11 | CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal.The second problem is, if you don't get your footing when you're young, it's extremely difficult to do so when you're older. I'm on the autism spectrum, born in 1989, so too early for all the awareness and support campaigns. This resulted in being unable to build a social circle, trying to copy my peers and failing, leading to a great deal of self-loathing. Combined with a difficult family situation, I was in a rut for a lot of years. Now that I'm older, I've resumed putting myself out there, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach isn’t as bad as men here make it out to beYou missed what I said. I didn't flirt with her. I was merely trying to be friendly and she interpreted it as me coming on to her. Unfortunately, I'm not able to read signals, which has always been an issue even with trying to build a social circle, let alone find a girlfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 12:36 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: The aspergers/high functioning autism red pill and blue pill dilemmaGood question and still trying to figure it out myself. I was born too early for all the autism/Aspergers awareness and it's still generally treated as a kid's disorder. That and a difficult family situation meant I never built a social circle, being rejected/shunned, which had a huge impact on my mental state. I've more or less got it together, but haven't been able to form connections beyond a "Hi, how are you?" level. Mostly, what I do is guesswork through past experience. Even in my 30s, I c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 03:00 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach isn’t as bad as men here make it out to beI wouldn't consider myself to be good-looking, no. Posted on "amIugly" a few months ago and the response was a universal: "You're ugly as hell!" Maybe I'm not bad looking, but idk. I'm not a minority, but I come across as "can't put my finger on it, but there's something about him" kind of different. Much as I try to fix it, I can only compensate to a point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 01:51 AM |
| 7 | RP claims women live life on easy modeNo, I wouldn't agree with this. Plenty of women are lonely and struggle to find partners. Sure, you might find someone who sleeps with you for a night, but that's not going to feel fulfilling when it's over. Plus, given how many women I've encountered who have been abused or raped, I understand they have good reason to be wary of men, even when it isn't fun being on the receiving end of that fear. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/23 01:31 AM |
| 2 | Cold approach isn’t as bad as men here make it out to beMultiple occurrences, multiple women, so I got a pretty direct message about how my flirting attempts were seen. Being on the autism spectrum, I come across as different, which can scare people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 01:25 AM |
| 5 | Cold approach isn’t as bad as men here make it out to beOne thing to get rejected. Another to be threatened with the police, get punched in the jaw, have security called on you, get fired and blacklisted for being friendly with a co-worker, not even liking her. That was my experience attempting to find a partner, and however much I tell myself it won't happen again, it leaves a strong impression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 01:03 AM |
| 3 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental healthMore and more, it's seen as a moral failing, that the reason women aren't attracted to you is because you're a horrible person. If you were really a good person, women would like you, but since they aren't, means you're a misogynist. Thing is, the most successful man I've encountered in terms of "body count" is deeply misogynistic. He's a tweaker, drug dealer, can't hold down a job, can't stay out of prison, going back to jail for not registering as a sex offender, happily mooches off others, tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 02:10 AM |
| 2 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental healthI've gotten a lot more careful who I open up to. I've been told "man up" just as often from women as I have from men, possibly more so. The difficulties I have are often difficult to put into words and usually get dismissed as "You're not trying, you're not making any genuine effort, you're just playing the victim! Get out of your comfort zone, retard!" So it's better if I just don't mention them unless I have a real connection with someone, which hasn't been the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Men are absolutely stupid when it comes to red flags.This is far from uncommon for either gender, doubly so when you feel lonely. I made all sorts of bad decisions for that reason and ended up getting chewed up and spit out. It gets real ugly when, say: she flirts with you enough for you to think she'll like you, but you're merely convenient to keep around as a shoulder to cry on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:11 AM |
| 8 | TRP is common sense explained to autistic men - CMVI'm on the autism spectrum. It wasn't that I didn't know what I was "supposed" to do. It's that it never worked for me when I tried it in the same way it did for neurotypicals. I studied people all the time, well before my diagnosis, only for it to blow up in my face. Tried my whole life to be social, make friends, only to be constantly told: "Stay away! You're different!" Out of two friends I did make, one descended into addiction and died of cancer at 21, and with the other, his mother ripped … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 10:47 PM |
| 4 | Before you can get a partner, you need good friends.Don't forget: "Learn to love yourself and what's meant to be will find its way to you." "So how do I know when I love myself enough for people to accept me?" "When you no longer have to ask that question." Yes, I've gotten responses like that. That or: "Just put yourself out there; not that hard." Maybe not for them, but for me, it's another matter entirely. For certain people, like my younger sister, it just clicks and they barely even have to think about it. Not the case when you're autistic, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 05:16 PM |
| 2 | I think “shy / anxious / socially awkward” traits are common in society. I think they affect men’s dating prospects vastly more than women’s. With this in mind, are women too often dismissive of men’s dating struggles?Sad thing is, I think there are a few men for whom there may not be any better solution than "Live life the best you can without it." I've noticed how the dialogue has changed. In the 1990s and 2000s, virginity was treated as a punchline, but the guy was given varying degrees of sympathy. However, ever since Elliot Rodgers, unsuccessful men aren't just seen as losers, but as dangerous lunatics. Scott Aaronson's brought up their pain and despite being a feminist in most regards, made himself into… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 07:23 AM |
| 2 | I think “shy / anxious / socially awkward” traits are common in society. I think they affect men’s dating prospects vastly more than women’s. With this in mind, are women too often dismissive of men’s dating struggles?One problem I've seen is, even feminists who are sincere about wanting to help men tend to see it in the light of "patriarchy hurts men too." Patriarchy's blamed for every single issue, almost like how I've encountered a couple religious people believing Satan is the cause of all evil, and the solution is to deepen our devotion to God. Toxic masculinity is a catch-all phrase that means whatever the hell you want it to. With what you mentioned about Jordan Peterson, it's clear any conversation th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Women who are in "alternative" scenes like punk rock/metal/raves etc, are more open to dating broke or short men but red pill men don't want those types.I don't think the Red Pill's any kinder to men. "If you masturbate, you're a loser!" "If you watch porn, you're a loser!" "If you don't devote every aspect of your life to getting laid, you're a loser!" "If you're a virgin in your 20s, you're a loser!" I do get the appeal of it. I've mentioned to you my lack of success in either romance or friendships and while I look for fulfillment elsewhere, it does get to me, and it does feel hopeless at times. That's been a large portion of my life, so I re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 02:58 AM |
| 5 | Women who are in "alternative" scenes like punk rock/metal/raves etc, are more open to dating broke or short men but red pill men don't want those types.I've always said it's not the short men who fail, or even those who are heavy, because I've seen both groups succeed in the outside world. Not necessarily with stunning 10/10 "Staceys" but if there's a mismatch in attractiveness, she's likely the better looking one. This is also a working class area, so you're not usually talking about people making oodles of money, either. It's the socially awkward men. You can get away with this if you're a woman; not as a man, given they're expected to make t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Women who are in "alternative" scenes like punk rock/metal/raves etc, are more open to dating broke or short men but red pill men don't want those types.And while I'm far from an attractive man, I've seen uglier men than me who end up finding partners. They tend to be similar in terms of looks, but if there's a significant mismatch in attractiveness, the woman tends to be the more attractive one (Can only speak from my experience) I don't object to the whole: "Go to the gym, lose weight, bulk up, get better at reading non-verbal cues" part because these aspects do help. My issue is far too much of it seems to be: "Women are entitled harpies comp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Women who are in "alternative" scenes like punk rock/metal/raves etc, are more open to dating broke or short men but red pill men don't want those types.My mother's boyfriend is 5'4, he was married before they got together, and he had numerous relationships as a teenager/young adult. Thing is, RP individuals never believe me when I point this out. He's a long way from what people would consider a "Chad." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 12:33 AM |
| 2 | At What Age Would You Allow (Or Rather Not Actively Try to Prevent) Your Child From Watching PornNot a parent, but I certainly wouldn't allow any young kid to access NSFW content. As a teenager... I wouldn't be quite as strict about it, but I'd make sure they know that porn is not an accurate depiction of sex. Trying such positions is often painful, not pleasurable. However, I'm aware it's extremely difficult to keep a child/teenager from being exposed to porn. Even if they have parents with parental control, they're likely to have peers who don't, unless you're talking isolated, deeply rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 08:29 PM |
| 1 | How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high?I really don't care about a potential partner's body count, at least to a point. If she's had 6 partners, meh. If she's had 60, that might make me uncomfortable, making me wonder if she's going to be loyal. (Maybe prejudiced, but it doesn't stop me feeling that way) Nor do I care if someone of either gender's having casual sex. Where I have a big issue is when someone's lying, leading their partners on, either claiming this is more than casual, or using someone or money or merely amusement. As f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 08:25 PM |
| 11 | Impact of aspergers/high functioning autism on menFrom everything I've seen, autistic men have a good chance if they find a social group who accepts them when they're young, that they're not made to feel defective due to their disability, that teachers are willing to work with them, that they find understanding, etc. Unfortunately, these are big "ifs" and you don't find this when you're young, it's very hard to build when you're older. I'm still trying, but I know what an uphill battle it is. As for autistic women, diagnoses are around 80% men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 05:40 AM |
| 13 | CMV: Women with high functioning autism have it easier than menAbout what happened to me. I didn't start out being shy; I became that way after years of rejection and mistreatment. My concern about approaching isn't that she'll say no, but that she'll go ballistic, call the cops, and I'll end up in the back of a squad car. (And I've had the first two happen) Not to mention being friendly to a female co-worker once got me fired: no flirting, no compliments, just trying to be friendly. All because I can appear "off' to people. That being said, I wouldn't say … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 03:50 AM |
| 23 | Impact of aspergers/high functioning autism on menI'm on the autism spectrum and all I've got is: "keep trying and hope I get lucky." I was born too early to get any support and far as the world's concerned, it's a kid's disorder. Unfortunately, the prospects for autistic men aren't good if you don't get help and acceptance early on, which many don't. I've heard the rules explained, but they never click for me the way they do for normal people. If you're young enough, build the biggest social circle you can. I'm almost 34 and it is damned hard … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 03:37 AM |
| 7 | Many men still clueless as to how to attract/date women, despite there being more information than ever on how to do so - why?A lot of the rules have changed. Among older people, I've heard numerous stories like: "He asked me out a dozen times before I said yes. Now we're happily married." Today, that's absolutely unacceptable. One reason online dating's become so big is because, at least theoretically, everyone's there to find a date. However, dating as a man on those sites is like a job interview: sending a bunch of messages and praying someone responds to you. Meanwhile, women have to comb through posts that say not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 05:21 PM |
| 6 | Are some women maybe hypocritical when they tell guys to lower their standards but then criticize them for it when they do?Let's face it: hypocrisy is pretty common in every aspect of life. Men who get angry being judged, yet won't consider dating any girl who's not 5'2, 125 pounds. Women who claim every ex-boyfriend is a horrible toxic monster, and nothing is ever their fault, no matter what. Those who claim money isn't important who have never had to struggle with it, confident individuals who can't understand that while forming connections is easy for them, it's not true for everyone. I could go on and on, for ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to themBeen doing my best to attempt this. I'd want to have a partner who genuinely wants and desires me in her life, but while I try to think otherwise, I may end up being one of the men who never gets anywhere. I've never felt like I'm entitled or owed anything like that, but it would be nice to participate in one of those fundamental human experiences. What I object to is the idea that if you're unsuccessful, it means you're a raging misogynist, a mass murderer in the making. In recent years, it's s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone here believe in love and actually finding someone who cares about them?I tried online dating before for around 2.5 years: OkCupid was one of the sites I attempted, along with Eharmony and Match. Got a single date that went nowhere, so I got discouraged and shut it down. As for MeetUp, I've tried that too, only there's so little within driving distance and much of it's online. I was going to a dance class, but it ended up cancelled due to lack of interest. Tried a writer's group as well, only they were a bunch of arrogant jackasses who made clear I wasn't welcome. B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone here believe in love and actually finding someone who cares about them?I'd love to be able to find something like this. I do my best to be optimistic, though that's gotten difficult as time passes. So far, what I've tried hasn't worked, but I'm making another attempt at online dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 05:37 AM |
| 3 | Where do you people find „ugly” guys?I don't consider myself to be an attractive man, but I've seen people uglier than me who do just fine in the dating realm. My difficulties are mostly autism-related, which unlike physical appearance, I can't do anything about. From my own experience, it's socially awkward men who have the most trouble finding partners. They're more likely to internalize the: "Don't ever approach us!" rhetoric, more likely to have negative experiences that compound this, and less likely to have a social circle wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Why hate on women who do OF?I don't have any issue with it, so long as everyone involved is overage and consenting. Nor do I have an issue with willing sex workers, though it's hard to tell who's voluntary and who is not. However, I don't think I'd be comfortable dating a woman who had an active OnlyFans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 07:57 PM |
| 3 | In reality girls know and accept guys are gonna hit on themWell, I ended up with responses like: "Say another word to me and I'll call the cops!" And I actually had security called on me once. Also been punched in the face for trying to flirt, or she went ballistic on me verbally; lost my job just for trying to be friendly, without even giving a single compliment. When it's been a consistent experience that it's not going to be a simple: "no, I have a boyfriend/husband" but instead has serious consequences, it's difficult to do. No matter how many times… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Social calibration is most important for men when datingI'm on the spectrum myself, so I can speak to this first-hand. Sometimes, I can even end up scaring women by trying to talk. Hopefully, I'll be able to find someone myself. I just don't see anything to back up the whole: "Chad harem" idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe the women on amiugly?I knew I was going to get some harsh comments, but since I've seen so many others post who were given compliments and support, I hadn't anticipated the magnitude of it. Took it down a day later, so the photo's gone. I have issues with self-confidence, so I'm quite aware of what that can feel like, even if they might be conventionally attractive. I'm almost 34, but I can't recall a single time in my life where someone's expressed any sincere interest or attraction to me; it's always ended up bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 11:18 PM |
| 8 | Social calibration is most important for men when datingI've heard numerous comments from women saying: "I sent him so many hints, but he didn't pick them up!" Conversely, I've had them freak out on me, thinking I'm flirting with them, when I really wasn't. Dating's tricky for most people, but it's especially ugly for autistic men; I'm one of them, so I know first-hand. The difference is, social awkwardness isn't as much as a handicap for women as physical appearance is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 10:29 PM |
| 3 | There is a hypocrisy around overweight women aka “landwhales”Yep, I've been on the receiving end. Still obese, but I've made a significant difference compared to where I was; doesn't stop the occasional insulting remark at the gym. Never had any problem with height, but I'm 5'8, so while I'm a little on the short side, it isn't by much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 10:25 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe the women on amiugly?Unfortunately, it's something that can easily backfire. I once posted on the site and the response was a universal: "You're ugly as hell!" And I mean over 90% of the comments, not a handful of people. Even got barraged with chat requests along the line of: "Of course you're hideous! How could you possibly have thought otherwise?" You can imagine what that did to my self-confidence. Even some of the most attractive people in Hollywood have admitted to feeling insecure about their looks, so I expe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Your view on the opposite sex and how you think it affects your sex and dating lifeIt doesn't; my issues are mostly to do with being autistic and how it makes social interaction very difficult, let alone the subtle cues involving dating that even neurotypicals often miss. It's easy to think that if someone isn't unsuccessful in dating, it's because he despises women and that's easy to read. However, I've encountered genuine misogynists in the real world, whose attitude toward women is: "free parking space for my dick." They have quite a bit of success, at least if you define s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 09:38 PM |
| 34 | You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degreePerhaps, but the thing is, I'm not looking for someone who's submissive to me. What I'd like is to find someone to share my life and experiences with, that I can trust and be willing to accept me. And yes, of course I'd do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 07:31 AM |
| 13 | Men, Can you touching a women be 100% platonic?If he was just asking for hugs, yeah, that could be platonic. However, if he keeps asking for kisses and cuddles, that's unlikely to be platonic, especially if he's admitted to liking you in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 11:52 PM |
| 3 | Being unsuccessful with women doesn't mean someone is a misogynistI'm on the spectrum as well. Masking isn't something I'm very good at and it's an absolute necessity. Yeah, there's plenty of pressure on us as well. What you mentioned is precisely my issue: I can't read the body language indicating it's okay to approach. Obvious body language is hard enough for me, let alone subtle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 06:24 AM |
| 9 | Being unsuccessful with women doesn't mean someone is a misogynistI consider social difficulty to be a bigger obstacle than physical. I've seen my share of unattractive men manage fine with women, and when there's a mismatch in terms of appearance, the woman is usually the more attractive one. However, men usually have to make the first move at every stage. There are exceptions, but that's generally what happens. Where I've seen a big correlation with a lack of success is autism: many I've talked to, here and elsewhere, have no experience, even in their 30s an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:52 AM |
| 7 | Being unsuccessful with women doesn't mean someone is a misogynistAgain, though, whether someone's saying: "I want to find someone to share my life with and the loneliness gets to me" sometimes will often get the same response as: "Women are entitled bitches competing with each other for the right to suck Chad's dick!" I haven't seen anything to indicate to me the second attitude is common, at least outside certain RP circles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:35 AM |
| 22 | Women want to control men.Sure, because after all, women could never care about men of their own volition, nor have the slightest regard for them as anything other than beasts to be abused. Compassion isn't possible as all these women conspire and compete among themselves to see who can harm men more. (Since this is PPD, yes, this is meant as sarcasm) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:42 AM |
| 14 | Being unsuccessful with women doesn't mean someone is a misogynistThis would be the exact point I was making: that if a man's unsuccessful with women, it's too often assumed the reason is because they're a raging misogynist spending their lives ranting about Chad. I was speaking of lonely men as a whole, a tiny fraction of whom are incels, yet they're assumed to hold the same disgusting attitudes. It's why I linked to the person above: someone who's devoted his life to supporting women's rights, yet even he was seen as entitled for expressing sadness about his… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Y'all pushed us this far.I don't think it's a big issue, at least at a certain age. A guy who's a virgin at 21 isn't going to find it a bit obstacles. Yes, he's something of a late bloomer, but having sex with anyone for the first time, virgin or not, leads to a bit of awkwardness. I've listened to people who think 17's far too late. However, there's some validity to it if you're in your 30s lacking experience. By then, you're expected to have some idea what you're doing. Not everyone is going to be willing to be patien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:02 AM |
| 13 | Being unsuccessful with women doesn't mean someone is a misogynistNoticed that myself, given how often I received bullying from my peers. Hence why I don't buy the idea of: "Women are only part of Chad's harem and average men are screwed!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 12:55 AM |
| 5 | Impact of aspergers/high functioning autism on malesI've noticed autism is the top indicator for lacking experience beyond a certain age, far more than height, looks, or whatever RP is ranting about. Those I've spoken to have mostly never had girlfriends, even in their 30s and 40s. I'm autistic myself and in the same position. For dating, it seems to be one horror story after another, with women saying what horrible partners they make, which isn't exactly going to encourage me. You can work on social skills, to a point, but nothing's going to tur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/23 05:14 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Women age like milk while Men age like wine is a fallacyIt all depends. I've seen plenty of good looking men and women in their 40s. I've also seen ones who look far older and uglier; depends on how well you take care of yourself. The latter group tends to be ones who are severely obese, smoked, drank, used drugs, or otherwise inflicted harm on themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Do men like plus size women?Yes, I find them attractive, regardless of whether or not that's considered a minority opinion here. Being bigger doesn't bother me, to a point. You know, if you're talking someone who's 400 pounds, than no, I don't think I'd be attracted to someone that size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 02:05 PM |
| – | I firmly believe the main reason dating is so bad these days is because of women.I'm on the autism spectrum, so I come across as different. Technically, they threatened to call the police, although I did have campus security called on me once. I've had such extreme reactions happen several times, hence why I rarely make any sort of move. I can understand women have reason to be wary, given how many I've talked to who've been sexually assaulted, abused, etc. but it still isn't fun being on the receiving end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 08:03 PM |
| – | I firmly believe the main reason dating is so bad these days is because of women.Yeah, I'd agree with this. Men usually have to make the first move and it's often very difficult to muster up the courage to do so. It's very hard for me to ask someone out because even attempting to flirt or be friendly has had brutal consequences for me. By which I mean getting hit in the jaw, the woman going ballistic, being threatened by the police, etc. It's left me a mite apprehensive. However, I've seen what my sister has to go through. I've had to ride the bus with her a few times becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 07:43 PM |
| – | Patriarchy unironically exist because of womenI partially agree with you. Women enforce gender roles as well; I've probably been told to "man up" more often from women than men. Frankly, I've heard far more slut-shaming and body-shaming from women, not that I haven't heard men speak that way as well, especially here. It's especially bad when a friendship sours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 07:36 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Dating gets harder - not easier - for men as they ageI'm a couple months shy of 34 and in the same situation. Unfortunately, I had a lot of emotional problems when I was younger, so didn't take care of myself. I'm on the spectrum and I was born too early for the awareness campaign, so I spent a lot of years feeling like I was defective, since the advice I got (and by and large still receive) was: "Learn to be normal." So I can hardly blame women for not being interested in me. It's still a struggle, but I've made an enormous amount of progress, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 07:36 PM |
| 2 | Its hypocritical of men to criticize promiscious women, when those men want to engage in casual sex.Yeah, that's always felt hypocritical to me. I don't worry about any potential partners I have being a virgin; at my age, it's extremely unlikely anyway. There were plenty of unhappy marriages back then, so I wouldn't romanticize the old days. For me, it's more that I don't think sleeping around leads to people being happy. Sure, it'd probably be fun for a while, but sex without any sort of emotional attachment feels empty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 08:39 PM |
| 1 | For the first time, a major Red Pill content creator has admitted that the popular RP claim of a third of young men not having sex while women are relatively unaffected isn't true, citing modern data showing less than 20% of men being sexually inactive and more young women sexually inactive than menI don't consider the idea of "Only Chad has a regular sex life!" to have any validity in it. In fact, someone who's had only a single partner could have more sex than someone who's had 20 partners. A person in a steady, loving relationship is likely to have more sex than someone who has only casual partners. Most end up in the position of having a few long-term relationships over the course of their life, maybe with the occasional casual encounter. A small minority have sex all the time, and whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 12:58 AM |
| 9 | Is it true young men can handle an older woman better than vice versa, from societies' views?I've seen those stories and at least half the comments are along the lines of "Lucky kid, wish I was him!" And it's almost always men saying this: every once in a while, there's a woman who doesn't see the issue, but in my experience, they take it more seriously. 20 years ago, this was thought of as harmless or even a beneficial experience for them. I remember when some teacher raped a 12-year-old and it was treated as a tragic romance because she was attractive. Given that last I heard, he's sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4M - How many average women have you had serious crushes on?It's been a long time since I've had a crush on any real person, given I rarely interact with people beyond a surface level. I might notice a good-looking woman, acknowledge it, but I'm not likely to remember for more than a few minutes. However, back when I did have crushes, it was always the smart girls. I had a huge crush as a teenager on the smartest girl in school. She was cute, but definitely not one of the school hotties. Things played out similarly in college, and someone I had a crush w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 08:51 PM |
| 13 | There are two camps of people in this world , those who swear women have high standards and those who swear they don’t . What causes that different point of view ?It depends. The most successful men I've seen aren't those who have money, good looks, or status. They're often worthless losers who can't keep a job, spend their spare time drinking and using dope, do nothing with themselves, and most of the time, aren't even good looking. I genuinely don't get the appeal. There's a reason drug and alcohol abuse are dealbreakers for me, no matter how attractive a woman might be. It is not worth going through that kind of hell, speaking from the experience of ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 02:39 AM |
| 3 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipI'll be 34 in a couple months and a single date that went nowhere is the extent of my experience. I'm not angry or resentful at women over it, but there are times where it can get to me. Even if it might be fun in the short-term, I'm not real inclined to sleep around for the sake of it, preferring a loving relationship instead. Hell, I have more romantic fantasies than sexual ones. I see couples all the time, from teenagers to the elderly. I'm genuinely happy for them, but I do feel a twinge of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 01:46 AM |
| 11 | Q4ALL: Do you know any men that previously had no success with women and were able to find it? Why do you think so many men believe that is impossible?I haven't personally had any success, no. Still tell myself many times a day: "Someone wonderful is out there for you; it'll happen at the right time" but I can't deny it's gotten discouraging. However, I've seen plenty of ordinary men manage fine. I have a co-worker who looks like a stereotypical neckbeard, yet he's engaged. My mother's boyfriend is only 5'4, was married, and had multiple relationships before that. In my last job, I had a co-worker who was over 400 pounds, and had a girlfriend.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Dating as a “mid” woman isn’t as easy as most men make it out to beDating is a difficult task for most. Sure, some women might be delusional, but I don't think fools on TikTok is an accurate representation. Nor is it gender specific. I personally know a man who's 66 years old, insistent on finding a young woman, and she's got to be gorgeous; given he's an ex-alcoholic living on social security, I don't consider that likely to bear fruit. When we're bombarded with the message: "leave us the hell alone, we don't want to be hit on everywhere we go, piss off!" it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 04:40 AM |
| – | New GSS Survey Dropped: "Is The Sex Recession Over?"For most people, it's a temporary thing. They might not have much luck finding a partner for, say, a few years for various causes. I hear talk about turning yourself into someone who can have sex whenever the hell he wants, but we're talking about a small percentage of the population. Even with numbers close to 30%, it's "hasn't had sex in the past year" not "never touched a woman before." However, for a few people, it ends up becoming more permanent. If you don't achieve certain milestones in a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 11:58 PM |
| 0 | How do you think feminism and general push for gender equality has changed the way relationships are now? Did it change for better or for worse?In many ways, it changed life for the better. Women can achieve their independence, they can escape abusive, toxic relationships, and no longer face stigma for pre-martial sex, even in the case of sexual assault. I'm aware that attitudes like: "if she dressed slutty, she was asking for it!" still exist, but I've never seen anything that indicates it's the norm. Sexual harassment is absolutely unacceptable, whereas decades ago, it was often just something working women had to endure. However, it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 09:17 PM |
| – | "Men who date younger women can't get women their own age".Well, I never had any luck with it due to being autistic and the lack of support: born in 1989, too early for "autism awareness". It's why I say social skills are the most crucial, not physical appearance. I'm far from an attractive man, but I've seen people uglier than myself do just fine. However, I have heard the: "Do the world a favor and kill yourself, incel!" routine when mentioning this. I also don't think the idea of: "if you're a good person, good things happen for you" is true, either.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 03:39 AM |
| 2 | "Men who date younger women can't get women their own age".What, he's being nice and supportive? The bastard! I don't think RP is an accurate description as to what most men believe, or so I dearly hope. However, what I do think is, if you lack experience beyond a certain age, regardless of gender, it's going to handicap you. It used to be played as a joke in sex comedies in the 1990s and 2000s, but now it's played as: "They're raging misogynists!" Virgin and Incel are too often used interchangeably with men. With women, it seems more this idea that: "O… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 03:23 AM |
| 4 | "Men who date younger women can't get women their own age".Whenever I hear the "wall", I usually just roll my eyes. The idea being that in their 20s, women ride a cock carousel of Chads, and when they're used-up hags, they seek a pathetic beta simp while still sleeping with an Alpha on the side. (Note: this is a description of the attitude, not an endorsement of it) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 02:57 AM |
| 4 | I think Women are lying when they claim they don't dress look or get implants for male attentionWhen it comes to wanting male attention, the answer is both "yes" and "no." We all want to be considered attractive, but especially for young women, there is a certain element of danger attached to it. You don't always know who someone really is. As for men, the answer is usually "yes." It doesn't mean we want to date her, let alone sleep with her, but it's nice to be thought of as attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 04:22 AM |
| 2 | CMV A lot of "bad dating advice" actually comes from not listening to what was actually saidThere's another issue as well: those who are naturally good with women live their life and it happens for them, with no more difficulty than merely talking to them. It's never been an issue for them, so advice of: "Just go out there, talk to women, and be yourself" isn't that helpful for someone who isn't naturally skilled. The big death sentence for men in dating is social skills, not physical appearance, although it's a definite bonus. All talks of equality aside, men are usually expected to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 08:23 PM |
| 1 | What is the most overrated common dating advice?"Learn to love yourself and what's meant to be will find its way to you." "How do I know when I love myself enough to attract a partner?" "When you no longer have to ask that question." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 06:00 AM |
| 4 | Both sexes are very bad at assessing their own level of attractivenessI don't have any illusions: I'm not physically attractive, even if my disability is the bigger issue. If I had any doubts, a universal: "God, you're ugly!" when I dared to post a photo of myself dispelled them. After a couple years of dedication, might be able to get myself to average. Dating apps suck for everyone, but more and more, it's the only way to find a partner. 10-15 years ago, online was something shameful that you didn't admit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 06:06 AM |
| 13 | Would you give up video games for sex?The reason I ended up playing a lot of video games is because of constant rejection and humiliation, whether romantic or platonic. I had nothing else to occupy my time with, given I didn't have friends or any kind of social life. Still the case, but I don't play them anywhere near to the degree I once did. Besides, that study only mentions casual sex; it didn't mention romantic relationships or marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:46 PM |
| 14 | The mockery directed toward's peterson's crying on live Tv is proof of women's loathing of weak emotional men.Norah Vincent's experiment had something similar: whenever she, disguised as a man, talked about her feelings, it often ended up being a turn-off. The experiment ended up leading to deep depression, with her conclusion being: "Thank God I'm a woman!" Another issue is how broad the definition of "incel" has become. I once browsed an incel forum and posts were quite horrifying, to put it mildly. More and more, though, it's becoming a generic term for any man who struggles to form a relationship wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 07:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV : if you offered this - Stability, kindness, consistency, no drama, aka a steady healthy calm relationship that “ends” your story, most would say noThis is exactly the sort of thing I want in a partner. I've watched my younger sister have one destructive relationship after another where one day, they're madly in love, and the next, she's ranting about how much she hates him. No thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 11:37 PM |
| 2 | How many of you were arrested after approaching a woman?As a matter of fact, yes, and I was threatened with it multiple times. I even lost my job and was blacklisted for being friendly to a female co-worker. I hadn't even tried to flirt, and was merely attempting to be friendly, but for whatever reason, that spooked her. And I've been punched in the jaw for my trouble as well. That was my experience when trying to talk to women, not even necessarily ask someone out. My concern isn't that she's going to say "no", but that she's going to go ballistic, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 06:02 PM |
| -1 | Have you ever tried look at dating from opposite sex's perspective, by making a fake account?No, but I've seen female experiences, and it's hardly the "She has her pick of Chads" that I too often hear. More than once, I had to ride the bus alongside my younger sister because she was tired of guys hitting on her. I struggle to think of a woman I know who hasn't been raped, or abused, or molested. A couple go three for three. I come across as different, so I'm used to be treated with suspicion, but I can definitely understand why women are wary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Do dating age men have any interest in having a friendship with a woman who is solidly nailed down?Yes, I'd be fine with that. My social circle is essentially nonexistent, so anything would be an improvement. What I'm not ok with is the kind of woman who knows you like her, flirts with you enough to make you think you'll return your feelings one day, but the reality is, you're being strung alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:48 PM |
| 3 | Men are better divided into three groups, not twoI know that's a rough thing to go through, so I'm sorry things have worked out that way for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 11:03 AM |
| 5 | Men are better divided into three groups, not twoI'm in that position, so I try to reach out, although a hostile response isn't uncommon. I speak from personal experience when I mention the reaction, so I do get why the Red Pill and similar movements have their appeal. The usual advice does sound hollow after a while. Also, for some, I suspect they don't have many social connections, either. This isn't always the case, as someone can have a robust social circle while having no luck with romance, but the two have a lot of overlap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 10:45 AM |
| 12 | Men are better divided into three groups, not twoSame here. I'll be 34 this fall and the extent of my experience is a single date that went nowhere. 3 years of online dating, sending hundreds of genuine, heartfelt messages that made clear I read their profile, not just their photos. I try to be optimistic, but it's getting harder and harder. I go to the gym, have a daily step goal of 15,000, have a physical job, but the inability to read social cues isn't something I can change. Not to mention the difficulty in forming connections from scratch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 07:11 AM |
| 4 | Men are better divided into three groups, not twoAs I said, this is an estimate, given hard numbers are difficult to verify. Nor it is impossible for the third group to find a partner; it's just a lot more luck-based. It's easy to be angry in that situation, especially when opening up about the pain it causes is likely to be met with "Disgusting incel!", no matter how gentle you are about it. I consider it better to acknowledge, that "I don't know if anything can be done about your issue, but it's got to be very painful for you, and I'm sorry … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 07:06 AM |
| 8 | Men are better divided into three groups, not twoIt's a pretty small percentage of the population: having only one or two partners doesn't qualify as truly unsuccessful. For those who actually are there, it's often because of something they were born with; many on the spectrum are in that category. Other times, it can be coming from a dysfunctional environment where you didn't have an opportunity to form the necessary connections. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 06:09 AM |
| 4 | Genuine question, do men love women as much as women love them?I'd like to be able to find love, have something genuine, a girlfriend who I can be affectionate with. I want the same thing you do, however elusive that often feels. Most men want the same thing. However, the ones who don't give a damn about women, who will say whatever it takes to sleep with her, or worse, an actual predator, can do far more harm than a good man can do good. For women, being physically unattractive is a huge handicap, however unfair that might sound to you. With the experiment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 02:43 AM |
| 2 | It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipesSadly, I can't claim to have similar success. I still put myself out there, but am unable to form any connections beyond a "Hi, how are you?" level. While I do my best to be optimistic, it does wear me down after a while. It's not an easy task to try again and again when it never seems like you get anywhere. I'm speaking from first-hand experience when I mention its difficulty, alongside the reasons for many using dating sites. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 01:44 PM |
| 1 | It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipesAnother issue is, if you don't manage to form a social circle as a kid, or lack romantic experience as a teenager, it's hard to catch up. Relationships as a teenager might be shallow and not seem that important, but it does teach you what to do/say, what not to do/say, and there's a certain validation in knowing that someone can find you attractive and desirable. Opportunities shrink as you get older, since people have jobs, families and other obligations, meaning they don't have the time they o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 01:25 PM |
| 56 | Men, how long is waiting for sex too long?I'm someone who thinks having a sexual relationship isn't something to jump into lightly. I'd be willing to wait several months, or longer, if there's a genuine connection and I'm not being strung along. However, after a couple of dates, I'd at least want some sort of affection, kissing, etc. Would I be willing to wait until marriage? Probably not, though outside of deeply religious communities, that's rare to see, given the average age of marriage is now 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 10:12 AM |
| 3 | Many men who have nothing going for them and are low value try to get high value or attractive women, and then complain and moan that they’re “alone forever” but don’t ever lower their standards.How optimistic I am varies, and it's not easy to maintain. I'm in my 30s and was in school before autism became common knowledge. Even today, it's seen as a kid's disorder and 90% of resources are for children. I'll summarize my experience as lacking a social circle for almost my entire life, and while I'm still trying to build one, I haven't had any success beyond a surface level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 03:08 AM |
| 3 | Many men who have nothing going for them and are low value try to get high value or attractive women, and then complain and moan that they’re “alone forever” but don’t ever lower their standards.I do my best to be optimistic, however difficult that is. I've been studying social cues my whole life, long before I even had a diagnosis. What I've figured out, I learned from guesswork, rather than being able to read them. It works well enough for casual conversation, but not for anything deeper. If I'd gotten help as a kid, it might have worked out differently, perhaps with a small social circle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 02:54 AM |
| 3 | Many men who have nothing going for them and are low value try to get high value or attractive women, and then complain and moan that they’re “alone forever” but don’t ever lower their standards.I work hard on self-improvement every day. I go to the gym, have a 15,000 step goal, and a physical job on top of that. I've bought better clothes, and smaller ones as I slim down. Problem is, my greatest obstacle is one I was born with: being on the spectrum. I can't train or discipline the autism out of me, and my brain struggles to pick up obvious social cues, let alone the subtle ones involving dating that even neurotypicals often miss. I come across as different and I haven't found a good w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 01:59 AM |
| – | Height never helped me. It’s not the silver-bullet some people think it is.Which is something I've said many times. Being on the autism spectrum has always been my biggest obstacle and unfortunately, there isn't a whole lot I can do about it. I'm not especially attractive, but I've seen plenty less attractive than me manage fine with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 09:04 AM |
| 23 | Are you a ‘Traditional man’ worthy of a ‘traditional woman’? (Question for men who seek a traditional relationship)Funny thing is, my standards for women would probably be considered low by the majority of the people here. I can cook for myself, look after my own affairs, I do most of the housework in the house I live in. I do a lot of the outside work, at least what I know how to do. I don't expect her to be "submissive" to me; in fact, it'd make me uncomfortable. I'd be all right with a traditional woman, but it's not what I'm specifically looking for. What I will not tolerate is drug and alcohol abuse. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 12:30 AM |
| 14 | CMV: Red Pill is nothing more than a misogynistic women hating movementUnfortunately, there is a reason the Red Pill has its appeal. There's enough truth in it to make it alluring, with mentioning that looks, social skills, and even status are important. If you're someone who's had a lot of negative experiences with women, hearing RP gurus going on and on about how women are gold diggers might win someone over. The number of lonely young men has gone up in the past decade, else RP wouldn't have spread to the degree it has. When I was 17, no one had ever heard of it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 11:41 AM |
| 2 | Guys who struggle with dating have you ever asked a female friend how to fix your looks?There's no one to ask, otherwise I would. I don't have male friends to ask, either; what connections I have are online. So I improvise and try to feel my way around by myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 12:05 PM |
| 2 | This sub doesn't actually seem to be about discussing gender issuesWell, depending on who it is, I get called either a simp or an entitled, raging misogynist. I agree with a fair amount of what feminism says, but the areas I disagree are too crucial to ever be considered an "ally." With the Red Pill, I think it has some merit when it comes to self-improvement, building your career, improving your physical appearance, and so on. I don't even think it's necessarily wrong with hypergamy. My objection to it is the attitude of "women are disgusting, entitled harpies… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 09:24 PM |
| 2 | The amount of economically, emotionally, & physically viable men in society is declining. How do we change this?A big issue is not being allowed to mention male difficulties outside of "Patriarchy hurts men too", which even well-meaning feminists tend to fall into. We aren't just girls with a penis who need to be socialized differently; our brains are different. Too many lack close friends, and in some cases, any friends. It's an especially acute problem for me, due to being on the spectrum, but plenty are in a similar position. Another one is being seen as dangerous predators; I see this blasted all over… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 11:52 PM |
| 25 | The amount of economically, emotionally, & physically viable men in society is declining. How do we change this?A big one is economics. A lot of jobs ended up being shipped overseas to Mexico, China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, and so on. After 2008, you could end up with a Bachelor's Degree, and might not end find a job at McDonalds. I once searched 26 months for a job, having an Associate's Degree, but I wasn't considered enough for exalted jobs like dishwasher or cashier. Men falling behind has been mentioned for a while, but until a few years, almost the entire conversation was on the political right. The so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 02:45 AM |
| 1 | In complete honesty…what exactly do most of you on here want?What I'd like... I'd like to find a genuine relationship, with someone loving and affectionate. Yes, I'd like sex too, but while a physical relationship might be fun for a while, it's not what I want long term. Unfortunately, I'm on the autism spectrum and my experience has been that I'm seen as different, and thus, dangerous. More than once, attempting to flirt or even compliment led to threats to call the police if I said another word, or getting punched for it. You can imagine the sort of mes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/23 10:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset"It's not the "go to the gym, work on yourself, dress nice, learn social skills" I have an issue with. It's the attitude of: "Women are disgusting, entitled harpies who compete with each other to suck Chad's dick" I hear so often here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 09:09 PM |
| 3 | If men were less horny, what would happen?It isn't just sex, even if that's often the main topic of discussion. It's the desire of affection/romance, which even the majority of asexuals possess. Those who have great difficulty finding a relationship often struggle forming platonic connections as well. This isn't a universal truth- some have no trouble finding friends while being unable to obtain girlfriends, and vice versa- but the two are interconnected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 08:06 PM |
| 6 | If men were less horny, what would happen?Sure, so do I, but the prospect of sex and relationships is a big motivator for men. You can't just wish away that desire, however much people might rant about "simps." Given what often happens to people who have given up on forming these sorts of connections, it's rarely seen as liberating or having the freedom to pursue other things. It's often deep depression, sometimes to the point of having suicidal thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 07:39 PM |
| 72 | If men were less horny, what would happen?Japan would be a good example of this. They've got close to a million Hikikomori of various ages, most of whom have no contact with the outside world at all. Men losing their sex drive also means they lose their drive for other things, like their careers and just building a life. I've said more than once the amount of porn consumption is a symptom, rather than a cause, of what's afflicting men. Without a sex drive, it'd likely be food and video games instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 07:24 PM |
| 3 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?One of numerous reasons I don't mention being autistic in the outside world anymore. Had a school counselor tell me to my face people thought I'd shoot up the school one day, to give one of many examples. At one time, I thought people might be more understanding, only to be repeatedly proven wrong and disbelieved when I complained about it. I haven't heard much of the Red Pill or Tate outside social media, but then, I live in a conservative area that voted Trump by a 2-1 margin. My Dad would bar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 05:26 PM |
| 7 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?Oh, I'm well aware of this. I've been punched in the face, kicked in the nuts, accused of harassment, threatened with the police, had campus security called on me, lost my first job because I tried to be friendly with a female co-worker and it spooked her. So you can imagine what sort of message that sent me. By my standards, a simple: "No thanks, I have a boyfriend/husband" is a positive experience. I can even understand that women have reason to be nervous around strange men, but it still isn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 09:56 AM |
| 8 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?The autistic women I've spoken to are usually in relationships. Autistic men usually aren't, even those in the latter part of their 30s. A survey I once did in the virgin forum indicated about a third were on the spectrum and if I restricted it to 30+, that number would probably have been higher. There's a reason I often say it's social skills, not physical appearance, that dooms men in the dating realm. Reading all the subtle cues involved is difficult enough for neurotypicals, with miscommunic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 07:56 AM |
| 2 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.Because if you've spent years trying to improve everything about yourself, finding yourself getting nowhere, wondering why, trying to tell yourself all you need to do is continue the effort, only to be told the same thing, it rings hollow. I'm speaking from firsthand experience with this. I've also known people whose lives are absolute train wrecks, but attracting others has never been an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 09:32 PM |
| 2 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.It's not bad advice in itself, but if you've had no success for a prolonged period of time, it sounds hollow and dismissive. Sometimes, it's not even said in good faith so much as it is an attempt to get you to shut up and stop whining. Aside from that, in certain circumstances, there might not be a good solution so advice isn't likely to help that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 09:06 PM |
| 4 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.It's not so much women can't give good advice as it is the dating world works differently for each gender. I've almost always heard: "Learn to love yourself and love will find you" "Focus on yourself and it will come" "It'll happen when you least expect it" But men usually have to make the first move, from approaching, to dating, to sex. I've lost count of how many stories I've heard about guys missing hints a woman was interested but they didn't ask him out because he's supposed to. The ability… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Men Desire Romantic Relationships More Than Women DoI'm aware I do. Sex by itself would be fun for a while, but it isn't what I want in the long term. I want someone I can be affectionate and romantic with as well, someone I can spend my time and energy on. Weird as it might sound coming from a man, I don't think sex alone leads to long-term happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 11:15 PM |
| 10 | Women say look out for signals to approach, what are the signals?One thing I do know about "Alphas": they don't have to spend their lives boasting about what badasses they are, or how attractive women find them. That just reeks of insecurity. I don't, either, but I can understand how prolonged loneliness can crush you, especially when it seems all you hear is: "Learn to love yourself and you'll find love." Less charitable responses end up: "You aren't entitled to affection, incel!" Sometimes, you just end up with a crappy outcome no matter how hard you work o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/23 07:38 PM |
| 11 | Women say look out for signals to approach, what are the signals?Well, as I've said, I get the Red Pill's appeal. I wouldn't have such an issue with it if it was indeed teaching social skills, getting your body in shape, dressing well, etc. It's the attitude of: "Women are entitled harpies who compete to suck Chad's dick!" I have a big issue with. I've never had any luck finding a partner and I'm in my 30s, so I know what that's like. I've learned to find things other than love and friendship to keep me occupied, but there are times it really stinks. A lot of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/23 07:27 PM |
| 26 | Women say look out for signals to approach, what are the signals?Unfortunately, when you're autistic, it's very hard to tell the difference between someone being polite and someone showing genuine interest. Communication is hard enough when you're neurotypical: guys missing signals, girls complaining a man they're interested in don't pick up on them, wanting to be left alone while expecting a guy to make the first move, having to filter out all the pigs and losers, etc. As hard as I've tried, I can't read non-verbal communication very well, relying mostly on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/23 07:09 PM |
| 5 | A lot of the toxicity around pill spheres has to do with missing out on young love and stunted social development as a resultI'm far from an expert, but I will say, if you have a social circle, it's something to be grateful for, even if you lack romantic success. I don't in the outside world and the lack of it is painful. Also, while it's not everything, physical fitness still plays a factor. In my depression, I let myself go and still work to undo the damage, so I recommend not making the same mistake I did. At 21, you've got time, but the future comes sooner than we tend to believe. So definitely begin a strength/ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 05:11 AM |
| 3 | A lot of the toxicity around pill spheres has to do with missing out on young love and stunted social development as a resultSo I've got no intention of telling those in the outside world until I've known them for a long time, having formed a strong connection. Given this is something I lack, I doubt it'll be an issue for a while. I'm happy for those on the spectrum who do find friends and partners willing to be understanding, while still a mite envious it hasn't happened for me. I'd like to find someone to connect to, be affectionate toward, be romantic with, and in the interest of complete honesty, yes, find a sexua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 01:46 AM |
| 36 | A lot of the toxicity around pill spheres has to do with missing out on young love and stunted social development as a resultI'm speaking from a lifetime of experience when I say people are not going to understand, and most crucially, they don't care to. I was seen in school as a mass murderer in the making, told this by one of the school counselors. My job prospects disappeared when I mentioned it, budding friendships died when I said the wrong thing, and attempts to explain it were met with: "Fuck you, we're done, that's nothing but an excuse!" Even the "helpful" comments are along the lines of: "Just study people's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 01:08 AM |
| 2 | A lot of the toxicity around pill spheres has to do with missing out on young love and stunted social development as a resultIf you're curious where I heard that, it was from Dr. Nerdlove's articles, where complaining about being lonely apparently equals being entitled. Sure, I'm not owed romance and affection, but it'd still be nice to have. When mentioning autism, almost all of it seems to be: "learn to be normal." Which, you know, I've been trying to do long before I understood why I was different, but it doesn't work like turning on a switch. It's exhausting and I rely far more on guesswork than actually reading b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 12:24 AM |
| 5 | A lot of the toxicity around pill spheres has to do with missing out on young love and stunted social development as a resultAnd what I've heard is: "You can't let it bother you at all. Can't be sad, certainly can't be angry. It has to be nothing but total, total peace." Even if you've never had a relationship at 50. Yes, there are other things in life, but it's a damned hard thing to do, especially since many in that position often don't have many social connections, period. Plus, I do think there's a stigma around it after a certain age. I don't think it's a big deal at 20-21, but 35 is a different story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 11:26 PM |
| 106 | A lot of the toxicity around pill spheres has to do with missing out on young love and stunted social development as a resultI want nothing to do with the RP; that doesn't mean I don't understand the appeal. I'm 33 years old and never had a relationship, let alone any sort of sexual encounter. A single date last year that went nowhere is the extent of my experience. Autism and the lack of support I received is a big handicap and one that doesn't have a good solution. For me and many similar men in my position, it's not even about sex, exactly. It's lacking romance, affection, companionship, feeling like you're left ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 11:10 PM |
| 38 | Here are my dating hot takes. What are yours?For as much as we talk about equality, men are usually expected to make the first move: asking her out, planning the date, kissing, sex, etc. A man's biggest handicaps are struggles with social skills. I did a survey on the virgin forum once indicating close to a third are on the autism spectrum and if I restricted it to 30+, the number would probably be higher. You can be the best boyfriend material in the world, but it won't matter if you can't read and give off the necessary vibes. I also bel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 07:30 PM |
| 4 | Would you date these "overweight" women?To be completely honest... sure, I'd date them if they had any interest in doing so. A woman carrying a few extra pounds doesn't bother me, even if this might be an unpopular opinion here. My deal-breakers have little to do with weight. It's drug and alcohol abuse. I have a couple family members who went down that path and no amount of physical beauty is worth going through that sort of hell, trust me on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 03:02 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Most men who sleep with a lot of women are not chads they just have better social skillsYep, and that's why being on the spectrum is such a big obstacle. I'm not what you'd call great-looking, but I've seen plenty of men less attractive than me manage fine. They can read the room and nonverbal communication in a way that's very difficult for me. Being unattractive is a handicap, being socially awkward is a death sentence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:54 AM |
| 2 | The rise of Andrew Tate is due to a lot of men seeing women only chase successful men and(To Tate fans) he shows a definitive path to becoming those men…Tate's also used as a way to silence anyone talking about male difficulties. I was listening to Professor Galloway mentioned how boys have fallen behind, only to be interrupted by a woman going on and on about Tate, putting an end to any real discussion. Repulsive as he is, I get the appeal. If you're someone in the latter half of your 20s or older, who's never had any luck with women, seeing this guy with a bunch of muscle cars and gorgeous women around him, listening to him has a certain tempt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 12:43 AM |
| 4 | Fresh and Fit are rape advocates that in turn damage young men creating more rapist or men insensitive to rape.Problem is, if you're a lonely man who wishes to not be lonely, responses are likely to be along the lines of: "You're a disgusting sexual predator!" "Incel, misogynist, neckbeard" and so on. Whether they say: "I'd like to find someone who loves me, and my lack of success eats at me" or "Women are cum dumpsters competing with each other to suck Chad's dick!" doesn't seem to make much difference in terms of what they receive. Even the kinder advice is usually along the lines of: "Focus on yoursel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 11:27 PM |
| 18 | Q4M, what romantic things (OUTSIDE OF SEX) would you like to get from your partner?I probably have more romantic fantasies than sexual ones. One of the top ones is simply cuddling on the couch, her head resting on my chest, a small smile across her face. I'm a very hugging person, though I've never been able to do anything with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 04:54 PM |
| 9 | I wonder if many of the guys that cannot date are actually enjoying the sufferingI've done everything I know how to do to improve things, and I continue to do so every day. However, being on the autism spectrum and not getting any support for it is a major obstacle, one that doesn't just disappear because you want it to. "Positive thoughts lead to positive results" is one of the most basic things you're told, but it's just as true that positive results leads to positive thoughts. It's a lot easier to continue if you see progress, even if you haven't achieved your goal. Howev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 09:46 PM |
| 10 | Where have all the good men gone?I expect it can also be easier to believe if you're a good person, that things will turn around for you, but there's no guarantee of it. And religion can play a role as well, that if you're not rewarded for it in this life, it'll happen in the next life. Deserve has nothing to do with what happens to people: we do the best we can with what we're given, which sometimes leads to crappy outcomes. Someone who's autistic has a good chance of living a normal life... if they get help, if they get accep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 03:09 AM |
| 14 | Where have all the good men gone?There's also the: "I can change him, he has a rough exterior, but he's a good guy deep down." Nope. I've seen how it ends, and since my dad spent 38 years in law enforcement, he saw far more. Some of those women ended up murdered. Seen plenty of romance novels with that sort of premise. Hell, I skimmed "Fifty Shades of Grey" and my first thoughts were, this man's a predator. I don't think morality has much to do with how successful men are with women. There are plenty of kind, wonderful men who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 02:47 AM |
| 12 | Where have all the good men gone?Yep, I was told that too, along with: "Relationships aren't important, and you must be at total peace with your lack of experience. Can't let it get to you at all." I'm honest enough to admit I'd take a casual relationship if it were possible, but it isn't what I want long term. I hear a lot of ranting about "Chads" in PPD and elsewhere, but to me, that's understandable. Someone who's confident, successful, good with people, athletic, good looking... why wouldn't he be a partner women wanted? Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 02:31 AM |
| 98 | Where have all the good men gone?There are plenty of good men out there; they just often aren't the exciting ones. I don't take the whole: "young people don't want to work" all that seriously. It's gotten harder to make your way in the world, especially since 2008. A college degree is both far more expensive and doesn't get you as far, all jokes about gender studies degrees aside. I once searched for a job for over two years and was damned close to giving up when I finally got a seasonal position. A big issue: a lack of male ro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 11:34 PM |
| 4 | The average man is fine, it’s the below average men who are genuinely struggling.I'm well aware I'm autistic. Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about it, save work around it as best I can. It's still seen as a kid's disorder and I'm in my 30s; nor did I get support for it back when it would have mattered. I still push myself out there: went dancing before it was cancelled due to insufficient people, a writer's group where no one had any interest in talking to me, and so on. It's a lot harder to start from scratch when you're older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 11:13 PM |
| 15 | The average man is fine, it’s the below average men who are genuinely struggling.I've worked very hard to improve myself. I'm proud of that, but it hasn't materialized into any success finding a partner. Nor has it led to finding any sort of friend group or social life. All depends on what you define as "struggle." Most have a relationship or two as a teenager, though they may or may not have sex in that period of time. However, there are those, for various reasons, who have an incredible hard time doing things the majority of individuals take for granted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 05:06 PM |
| 28 | Most men would have no issues dating if they had a lifestyle that allowed them to organically meet women.Yeah, I'm aware that's always been my issue. I'm on the spectrum and I never managed to build a social circle even as a child, and my efforts now haven't gone that far, either. A dance class I was going to was cancelled due to not enough people attending, making me look elsewhere. I say hello to a few people, but it rarely goes any deeper than that. When I try talking, I often get one-word answers, if that, which gives the impression they don't want to speak to me. I'm not great looking, but I'v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Male Delusion Calculator!Something to keep in mind: the medical definition of obese is very different than the popular one, which tends to be "350 pounds and having to use a mobility scooter." My standards aren't what a lot of people would call high. Appearance isn't the primary factor, though I'm honest enough to admit it does play a role. What I will not tolerate is drug and alcohol abuse, no matter how attractive a woman might be. It's not worth it, speaking as someone who spent a significant portion of his life arou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 04:57 PM |
| 2 | CMV - Men need women more than women need menWhen it comes to emotional support, I would agree. A great deal of a man's connection tends to be with his wife or girlfriend. What I've seen in my own life is, women tend to have a significantly stronger support network. Now I'm aware this doesn't apply in every single case, but I've recently seen a few women go on about difficult life circumstances: betrayal, losing someone, a family member who ended up in a car wreck, courtesy of some fool who didn't bother to look both ways, etc. They receiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Would you date a meth addict?No, absolutely not. Drug and alcohol abuse are deal-breakers for me, regardless of how physically attractive she might be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 06:41 PM |
| 3 | Do humans need to be in relationships to be happy and healthy or is being single for life healthy?That's about 90% of what I was told. Then those very same people turn around and stay in toxic relationships rather than be by themselves. During the pandemic, depression and suicidal thoughts skyrocketed because it was hard to socialize with friends and partners, so I find it hard to take that claim seriously. How much of a stigma lacking romantic experience is... I don't really know. I don't think it's a big deal at the age of 20-21, barring idiots who are often full of crap, but your 30s may … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/23 05:41 AM |
| 8 | How the red pill attracts young menTo give an example, as a child, what I wanted most of all for my birthday was for friends to come to my party. At around 15-16, I realized that wasn't going to happen, which was outright crushing. This isn't meant to have people feel sorry for me, but my intention is to say that I know what it's like to feel alone, for things to look hopeless, and how the Red Pill appeals to such individuals. And unfortunately, anyone who struggles this way is seen as a raging misogynist, being told that women d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 12:02 AM |
| 10 | How the red pill attracts young menFrom what I've seen, autism is the top deciding factor for later in life virginity. This isn't to say everyone is, but they do seem to be overrepresented among the lonely. I did a poll once in the r/virgin forum and something like 30% said they were on the spectrum. Among those who are older (30+) the number's likely higher. It's why I say social skills are a bigger factor than looks. I'm around the lower end of average, but I've seen plenty of men uglier than me who manage fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 11:36 PM |
| 9 | How the red pill attracts young menThat's been most of my life as well, since I'm on the autism spectrum and had the misfortune to not get support. 33 and never had a girlfriend; went on a single date last year and that's the extent of my experience. I'm still working to change this, but it gets crushing after a while. I am genuinely happy for those who do have love and affection in their lives, even if I feel a tint of jealousy as well. So I do understand the Red Pill's appeal, how its promise of female adoration can suck you in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 11:20 PM |
| 9 | How the red pill attracts young menIt's the shier, timid, less socially adept men that are worried about creeping women out or making them feel frightened. Your macho jerks are never going to give a damn, no matter how much you lecture them on why they should. When measuring by number of partners alone, it's all too often worthless losers who can't hold down a job, no desire to improve themselves, waste their lives on booze and drugs, and usually aren't even good looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 10:55 PM |
| 19 | How the red pill attracts young menIf anything, lonely men 30 and above are more vulnerable to it. A lack of success can be crushing at the age of 18,19; imagine being 35 years old and never having a relationship. While I don't think virginity is a stigma for college students, barring the usual loudmouths, it becomes a big one beyond a certain age. We're social animals; we need companionship and seeing those around you getting married, having kids, when you might not have been on a date, is very difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 10:49 PM |
| 2 | How the red pill attracts young menI think there's something to that. What I didn't add in the initial post is that such men can also be told: "You're an entitled misogynist; kill yourself and do the world a favor!" I ended up getting some of that, and until that moment, I hadn't heard the term "incel." Whether you're ranting about Chads or going out of your way to say you care about women, but the lack of romance is frustrating, the response is often similar. It's easy to be bitter at negative experiences, especially if they've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 10:44 PM |
| 4 | How the red pill attracts young menSomething similar happened with the incel movement, which was started by a woman. At the time, it was a group of lonely men and women seeking emotional support. This is speculation on my part, but what I think happened is, there were a few who were not only lonely, but deeply misogynistic. Over time, their toxicity pushed out those who merely wanted a sympathetic ear until we got what we have now, and any man who dares to express unhappiness at his lack of relationship success ends up tarred wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 10:24 PM |
| 6 | How the red pill attracts young menWhat I've noticed that's changed is also all the ranting about "Chads" and "Stacies" that used to be restricted to the incel community. Difference is, it's: "This is how you become Chad!" Unfortunately, loneliness sucks, especially when it never seems to get any better, no matter what you attempt; speaking from first-hand experience. Easy to be bitter in that situation. I wouldn't have such a problem with the Red Pill if all it was, was a way to help men become better at finding a partner. It ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Social circles are really not a good way to meet womenFrankly, the biggest obstacle for you is being autistic, which really sucks because it's a permanent condition. Speaking as someone who's on the spectrum and has never had any sort of social circle. Every bit of advice I've ever heard is: "body language, body language, body language." It doesn't work so well when reading non-verbal cues is difficult, if not impossible. And after a while, it feels downright hopeless; I'm fully aware of that. Best I can give you is to be grateful that you do have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Is hypergamy a real concept?I'd say yes. Societal pressures and restrictions on women certainly amplified it, but it didn't invent it out of nothing. I've lost count of how many articles I've read about women who can't find partners, usually college educated. Generally, people will have relationships and marry within their income and education level, and for the latter, it's about 60/40 in favor of women. Moreover, some men still feel uncomfortable about their partner having more education and prefer dating down. Some wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 06:40 AM |
| 0 | Men who genuinely are fans of Andrew tate can I ask u why?He isn't so much a symbol of masculinity as he is a caricature; genuine masculinity isn't spending your life boasting about your N-count or the number of vehicles you have. Unfortunately, with too many young men and boys lacking male role models, it's hard to tell the difference. All too often, boys and men are held responsible for what the worst examples of our gender do, blaming such violence on male culture, male entitlement, and so on. I also think there are some feminists out there who genu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 08:14 PM |
| 4 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'It's more than he has the ability to do so, because he's rich and famous. There are poor men who would happily date women half their age, but unless you're wealthy, that's unlikely to be an option for you. The joke of: "A man is as faithful as his options" has some truth to it, but shouldn't be treated as some sort of absolute rule. Plenty more remain faithful to their wives and girlfriends. They just don't get nearly the amount of attention and notoriety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 09:17 PM |
| 3 | Why haven't women built their own independent, semi autonomous female utopia?Because they're human beings. We'll never have any sort of utopia because people are flawed. The most you can do is try to build the best world you can. However, there are still separatist communes for lesbians, though most of the women who live in them are at least in their 60s. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/24/style/womyns-land-movement-lesbian-communities.html Even generations ago, though, you had to be pretty extreme to want to decide to have no contact with the opposite gender at all. By … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 12:50 AM |
| 16 | RP and related manosphere ideologies are only going to result in women becoming even more selective, less sexually available, and purposely choosing to avoid men altogetherI'd like to see that too, but I don't think it likely. "Incel" and "virgin" are all too often treated as the same thing. It doesn't matter if you're a male feminist, if you love, care about, and cherish women, if you dare say that this state of affairs upset you, you're seen as a horrible misogynist. I agree with Scott Aaronson when he says society by and large does not give the slightest regard for lonely men at all. It takes a lot of moral courage to say: "I'm sorry things haven't gone well fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 02:05 AM |
| 10 | RP and related manosphere ideologies are only going to result in women becoming even more selective, less sexually available, and purposely choosing to avoid men altogetherWhatever disagreements I might have with Jordan Peterson, he at least has the message of taking responsibility for your life. As I've repeatedly said, I don't want men and boys to see men like Tate as any sort of solution. My point is, bringing up male issues outside of "patriarchy hurts men too" are met with rebuke, mockery, lectures about male privilege, misogyny, and so on. Bring up a lack of success with relationships, no matter how much you go out of your way to say that you care about wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 01:40 AM |
| 22 | RP and related manosphere ideologies are only going to result in women becoming even more selective, less sexually available, and purposely choosing to avoid men altogetherI don't have the perfect answer, but the first part would be acknowledging we have an issue in the first place. Almost all talk about struggling boys has been among conservatives, which I expect is one of the reasons this is dismissed. It's only been perhaps the last 2-3 years that liberals are starting to say something as well, outside of "Patriarchy hurts men too." And it's poor, working class men who are being hit hardest, a disproportionate number of whom are minorities. Men need love too. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 01:28 AM |
| 21 | RP and related manosphere ideologies are only going to result in women becoming even more selective, less sexually available, and purposely choosing to avoid men altogetherYes, they do. Men also make up most of the homeless, most of the incarcerated, most of those who die from suicide, most of those who die from drug and alcohol abuse, most of those who flunk out of school, struggle with learning disabilities, etc. Most CEOs being men doesn't help you if you're a boy in poverty, lacking any sort of reputable role model. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 01:20 AM |
| 12 | RP and related manosphere ideologies are only going to result in women becoming even more selective, less sexually available, and purposely choosing to avoid men altogetherWell, Andrew Tate might offer "guidance", but not the sort we'd want to have men give a single thought to, let alone see as accurate. If boys can't find role models in fathers or teachers, some will go to people like this; not all, but too many. The reasons for this are many, but men are falling farther and farther behind in school, on every subject, in every grade, the suicide rate has skyrocketed, drug deaths have skyrocketed, and the response is either: "Patriarchy hurts men too!" or "Men jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 01:14 AM |
| 154 | RP and related manosphere ideologies are only going to result in women becoming even more selective, less sexually available, and purposely choosing to avoid men altogetherHowever horrible the likes of Andrew Tate are, there is a reason people like him are gaining a following. You've got a lot of young men who haven't had much success in life, and are brushed off and mocked as privileged whenever this is brought up. Loneliness among young men has increased and there's the feeling of uselessness; the college ratio is now around 60% women/40% men and growing. Boys seek male role models and too many can't find one in their father. 75% of teachers are female and the 2… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 11:57 PM |
| 3 | CMV: An abundance mentality is delusional when there is no actual abundanceI happen to think "positive results lead to positive thoughts" more than the other way around. It's easier to keep going if you're making progress, even if you're nowhere near where you want to be. I've noticed the whole abundance mindset is mostly aimed toward upper-middle class people who want to be wealthy, not the genuinely poor. For example: say you spend 2.5 years on dating sites. In that time, you've gone out with several women and a couple liked you enough to continue seeing you. No, you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Most men on OLD are of a similar attractiveness to the women.Spent almost 3 years creating various dating profiles, hundreds of messages, and never got anywhere. I shut them all down last October because it became exhausting. So if you have any ideas to improve my prospects, I'm open to suggestions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 06:43 PM |
| 5 | Would you marry a woman making significantly more than you?I wouldn't have any issue with it, provided she felt the same way for me that I did for her. I don't see any reason to let my pride get in the way, especially given in the modern world, most people need two incomes to pay the bills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Women enforce gender roles tooActing that way reeks of insecurity to me, that you're trying to convince yourself as well. But for lonely men, it offers the appeal of: "Follow my program and you'll become a Chad, drowning in pussy! You won't be a beta simp, watching your woman sleep with the alpha on the side!" I haven't 100% given up, but it's looking unlikely as things stand. I've got other things in my life to be happy for, which I remind myself of. I come across as different, and while I understand women have reasons to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Women enforce gender roles tooI don't think RP has much regard for men, either. Watch porn? You're a loser. Get yourself off? You're a loser? Subscribe to OnlyFans? You're a pathetic simp. Your worth as a man depends on the number of women you sleep with, etc. As for the whole Alpha Male... men who fit that category do not have to spend their lives going around bragging about what a real man they are. And I'm willing to admit being in the latter category. 33 and never had a relationship, primarily due to being autistic and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Women enforce gender roles tooI'll admit to being sympathetic to the Red Pill until I actually started listening to people here and reading the forum. Thing is, I'd have more reason to hold a grudge against women than many, if I chose to. Being manipulated or lied to, with women pretending to like me, sometimes for money but usually mere amusement, is my life's experience. And on numerous occasions where I asked them out, or even told them they were pretty, some of the responses were hostility, even violence. If I don't have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 11:15 AM |
| 2 | Women enforce gender roles tooEven agreeing with a large portion of feminism, the areas where I disagree are too crucial to ever fit in as a true "ally." The attitude seems to be: "If you're female and don't agree 100%, you've been brainwashed by the patriarchy." And based on a lot of what I've read here, I do think there's an undercurrent of male hatred. Seeing the attitude that men are raised to hate women from the time they're born, that men are eager for the slightest excuse to turn women into sex slaves, force them into… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 11:00 AM |
| 3 | Women enforce gender roles tooFunny, I've been told and I've read exactly this. And when mentioning women who engage in slut-shaming, catty behavior, not getting along with one another, etc., the explanation is all too often: "They've been brainwashed by the patriarchy into considering themselves inferior." Pro-life women, conservative women, non-feminist, and especially anti-feminist women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Women enforce gender roles tooMen have a difficult time of it, women have a difficult time of it. The issue tends to be, our difficulties are different and thus, hard to relate to from the other side. She committed state-assisted suicide a couple months ago, but the end of the experiment years ago left her deeply depressed. I suspect she dealt with other issues, though living as a man wasn't the paradise of privilege she expected. Likewise, I think some men would benefit from seeing how things can be for women, unpopular as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 10:46 PM |
| 3 | Why is niceness so harmful to romantic relationships?What I expect has happened is "nice" has gotten so convoluted and tainted that it'll never regain its original meaning. Whether you say: "The bitch stuck me in the friendzone because I'm too nice!" or "I love women, I have other things in my life, but sometimes, the lack of romantic success gets to me" people are going to see you as a raging misogynist regardless. I'm not really sure if there's a real solution to that, but that's where we are now. It's a thin line between being supportive and be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 10:19 PM |
| 3 | Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like!Sometimes this is true, but on other occasions, I've seen women go for drug addicts, alcoholics, lowlifes, and this is known from the outset. Had a co-worker who had a kid with a gang member and was honestly surprised when he didn't commit to his fatherly duty. There are a lot of romance novels with the premise of the bad boy who softens himself (but not too much) for the one woman who makes him want more. Or: "Yes, he's got a rough exterior, but he's a good man deep down!" Well, my Dad worked i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 10:09 PM |
| 9 | People dating need to be realistic with their expectationsThing is, if he was looking for a woman closer to his age, I don't think he'd have an issue, but he wants one younger than his daughter. I've told him more than once, but he seems to think one of these gorgeous women will show up and screw his brains out. Still speak to him sometimes, but he can make me uncomfortable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 06:19 AM |
| 2 | People dating need to be realistic with their expectationsI'd like to know that myself. Someone who does have those sorts of qualifications might see her as someone to sleep with, but most of the time, won't see her as anything more than that. Too many are willing to take advantage, sadly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 03:30 AM |
| 12 | What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"?My standards are fairly low: I don't want to deal with drug and alcohol abuse. Went through that with a family member for many years and refuse to go through it again. I don't care about past promiscuity, and as for weight... doesn't bother me if she's a bit chubby, but if we're talking 300-350 pounds, that would make it more difficult. I'm overweight myself, albeit much less so than years ago, so perhaps this is hypocritical of me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 12:50 AM |
| 4 | Is it just me or there's a certain type of woman that loves to bully single men specifically?Unfortunately, I would say yes. Women are capable of being cruel as well and while I know there are men out there who proclaim how wonderful they are but responding to a rejection with: "You're a goddamned whore!" others are legitimately humiliated. Unfortunately, anyone who opens up about sadness over being single will be seen in the same light, regardless of whether the description fits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/22 06:19 AM |
| 13 | Q4M: what should women know about sex?Admittedly, this is hypothetical, but I'd want to know that she wanted me, she desired me, that I meant something to her. That I'm important and physical affection as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/22 02:20 AM |
| – | Why men and women don't understand each otherIt was meant as a suggestion to people of: "Life is full of difficulties, so try and see things from the other's perspective." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 11:58 PM |
| 37 | “Female sexuality is responsive”Generally, the man's expected to make the first move, from asking her out, kissing, and everything else. There are exceptions to this, but it's generally how it works. Have to read all the subtle hints she's into you, which is a difficult thing to do, especially on the autism spectrum. I've heard just as many stories of: "he didn't notice all the blatant hints I was into him" as I have "he flirted with me when I was just trying to be friendly." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | What do you agree with about the RP, and what do you disagree with?I don't think they're wrong when they say looks matter in a relationship, hypergamy exists, you need to go out there and ask a woman out, go to the gym, work on yourself, and so on. This is the part that seems alluring, promising to turn you into a "Chad." There's even a certain bad-boy appeal, which I've seen play out too many times; never ends well. What I object to is the toxicity of it. "Women ride the cock carousel before settling down with a pathetic beta simp while still fucking the alpha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 02:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women open themselves to more danger when being "nice" in rejection rather than being honestThere is no perfect way to reject someone. Be gentle about it and they might think they have a chance. Be vicious about it and it'll discourage them from trying again with someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 12:09 AM |
| 3 | Social awkwardness is the biggest death sentence for menI'm speaking in terms of dating, not literal death. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 09:07 PM |
| 6 | Social awkwardness is the biggest death sentence for menI can only speak from my own experiences. I can't speak for everyone on the sub. I live in a working-class area, so there's a lot of poverty here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 11:43 PM |
| 3 | Social awkwardness is the biggest death sentence for menA little bit of both. I always knew I was different, even if I didn't know why. I was born too early for all this awareness and support, and even now, it's almost all aimed at children. I've gotten to where I can handle surface-level conversation, but I still can't read non-verbal cues to save my soul. It's essentially educated guesswork of: "Okay, this is what they want/feel in this/that situation." I'm able to conceal my disability unless they're trained in detecting it, which most aren't. Tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Question for Men: What would you do if you were a woman?I couldn't say for sure. My experiences would likely be different, and a fair amount would depend on whether I'm still on the spectrum. So assuming I was attracted to men, I'd always had a thing for the smart girls, not necessarily the really attractive ones. If that doesn't change, then I'd be going for the smart guys. Probably be easier to find a partner, but then I'd have to be wary of being used for sex, constantly hit on, assessing possible danger, and other things I don't have much experie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 09:03 PM |
| 0 | Question for conservative men: Would you ever raise another man's child?Not a conservative, but yes, I'd be willing to do it. Certainly something I'd be nervous about at first, being unsure how involved my hypothetical partner would want me to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Dating can be harder for women than menI don't know about harder, but I would say it's more dangerous. Men are usually bigger and stronger than women, something they're well aware of. I'm not especially in shape, or trained in hand-to-hand, but I could still probably overpower 90% of women. So there's a certain element of danger. My sister had a boyfriend years ago where things got ugly and he chased her down through the streets, choking her nearly to death. Nor was he the only one who got violent with her. I've heard too many storie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 11:14 PM |
| 6 | If the age of consent was 14, do you think it's acceptable for an adult man to pursue 14-17 year old girls for dating and sex?God, no! Even a girl who's 18-20 would feel like a child to me, even though she's legally an adult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 06:49 AM |
| 10 | Slutshaming isn't a widespread phenomenon anymore, the main issue nowadays is virginshaming.Depends if you see autism as a red flag or not. I had a lot of emotional problems when I was younger and didn't take care of myself, physically or mentally. I came around a bit too early for the autism support you have now, and combined with lack of resources, I had a lot of issues going on that are way too complicated to summarize in a single post. I've mostly gotten myself together and have come such a long way since then, though I'm willing to admit it still takes a lot of effort at times. I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Redpill just means toxic relationships while Bluepill means healthy relationshipsSometimes you will, other times you won't. It's the ability to connect to and read non-verbal communication that plays the crucial role. Hence the Red Pill's appeal. They aren't entirely wrong when talking about going to the gym, taking care of yourself, improving social skills, even finances, etc. It's when you look a bit deeper where you see the toxicity of it, where a man's worth is defined by how many women he sleeps with. Where women are seen as harpies riding the cock carousel, Alpha Fucks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 05:46 AM |
| 4 | Disqualified from the startPhysical appearance matters, but not nearly to the degree many on this thread seem to believe. I've seen ugly people manage fine; even had a co-worker who was more than 400 pounds find an attractive girlfriend. He wasn't rich, either, making a few dollars above minimum wage as a forklift driver. The true death sentence for men is being socially awkward. Even in the modern world, men are usually expected to make the first move, from asking her out, to kissing, to sex. If you consider how many in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 05:40 AM |
| 20 | Slutshaming isn't a widespread phenomenon anymore, the main issue nowadays is virginshaming.I don't know about the main issue, but virgin shaming is a definite thing. I'm 33 years old with next to no experience (made out with one girl, had one date with another) so it's certainly something I've encountered. Bothered me a lot more in the past, but now it's more like I've been left out of a fundamental human experience than actual depression. And at the age of 20, you're still within the normal bell curve when it comes to your first partner, so it seems very silly to me. Those mocking yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 05:27 AM |
| 2 | N-Count Survey of the USA (2021) ResultsSex is one of the things people lie the most about. I'm aware of the joke of: "Whatever a man tells you, cut it in half. Whatever a woman tells you, double it." It'd be interesting to know what the median number would be. You've got some on one end of the spectrum, those with either zero or a single partner. Even today, you have those who wait until marriage and only have sex with their husband/wife. On the other end of the spectrum, others have dozens of partners and beyond. This, however, is f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 02:22 AM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?Not RP, but I'll answer anyway. There's no way to absolutely, 100% avoid a toxic partner. Some can be very good at concealing his true nature. If he's someone who spends his spare time drinking, doing drugs, or has multiple felony convictions, stay the hell away from him. This might sound obvious, but I've seen it play out too many times: thinking he's a good guy deep down, just rough around the edges. Or she can change him through the power of her love. Nope. Best-case scenario, you'll be used … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 10:32 PM |
| 5 | Q4M: Random Variety vs Stable VarietyI'd very much take the stable variety. Sex without any sort of emotional attachment seems hollow to me. The random variety would be fun for a while, but I think the novelty would wear off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 01:46 AM |
| 28 | A core issue with promiscuity and poligamy is that they are not sustainable.Just because you come from a conservative family doesn't mean you'll stay that way. I've become more liberal over time, even if I'm conservative by Reddit standards. It's also possible to be conservative in one aspect and not another. Polygamy was ugly for women, but it wasn't great for men, either. If 5-10% of the population have multiple wives, where does that lead the 25-30% of men who can't find partners? Having a large cohort of young men who don't have economic or marriage prospects is not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/22 11:52 PM |
| 3 | The ideal red pill man and the ideal "blue pill" (or any other dating strategy other than red pill) man are essentially the sameI don't think RP is wrong in the sense that looks matter, confidence matters, social skills matter, and yes, even financial success matters. Mine is the attitude of: "Women ride the cock carousel, then settle down with a pathetic beta simp while still fucking the alpha on the side." That your worth as a man depends on how much sex you have. Watch porn, you're a pathetic simp. Subscribe to OnlyFans, you're a pathetic simp. Don't have a six-pack, you're a loser. And I could go on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Male sexlessness doesn't have a simple answerThat's more or less my conclusion as well: that there isn't any great solution. Sometimes, things merely turn out the way they turn out; doesn't have to be the fault of "Patriarchy" "Hypergamy" "Female entitlement" or other forms of screaming I've seen on many occasions. A solution, at least to the degree there is one, is live your life and do the best you can to succeed in your goals, romantic and financial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Male sexlessness doesn't have a simple answer#MeToo affects those who are already terrified of making approaches, lest they be seen as creeps. There's a reason I cited it as the smallest factor of the four. As for porn, it may be damaging, but good luck finding someone who doesn't look at it at least occasionally. And if you've never dated in your late 20s and beyond, what reason do you have to abstain unless it's due to religion? Even that isn't always a deterrent, given the porn consumption rates in the Bible Belt. So where exactly have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why do you only attack one sex?I don't. Both genders are capable of shitty behavior. Neither gender has an easy life, and each face their own difficulties when it comes to dating. It's often that men don't face the same issues that women do and vice-versa, so sometimes, they're not sympathetic. I generally roll my eyes at the whole "Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks" I often hear, alongside: "After she rides the cock carousel, until she settles down with a beta simp, while still fucking Chad on the side." Some of the comments are even … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 12:29 AM |
| 14 | How many here are still virgins in their 20s? What is your reason for that?I have a lot of trouble reading non-verbal cues and signals, so I come across as different from other people. Unfortunately, for some women, this can be scary. I've had other severe reactions than those and often, it was me trying to compliment them, not even asking them out. I don't think I'm that ugly, just awkward. I've seen plenty worse than me who manage fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 12:51 PM |
| 35 | How many here are still virgins in their 20s? What is your reason for that?I'm in my 30s and still a virgin; gone on a single date and that's it. Main reason is being on the autism spectrum and not receiving any support. Didn't take care of myself when I was younger and my attempts at asking girls out were a disaster. (By this, I mean I had a couple women threaten to call the cops if I ever spoke to them again) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 02:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are bad at detecting fake confidence, contrary to popular thought"Fake it until you make it" isn't something out of the Red Pill as it is among the most common pieces of advice you'll receive. I've been told it many times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 09:35 PM |
| 2 | "I had no clue he was a jerk. He tricked me!"I had a co-worker a couple years ago who got pregnant by a gang member and he refused to stick around. This is something she was aware of when she began seeing him and was genuinely shocked by him not taking responsibility. Unfortunately, it's not the only time I've seen this play about, even from a couple of family members. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 03:36 PM |
| 20 | Do you prefer 50/50 or submission?I wouldn't want a doormat as a partner. Something else to consider: it's not going to be 50-50 all the time. Sometimes, one partner will be going through a miserable time and will need more support, with the second taking the majority of the weight. Also, feminine and submissive are not the same thing, even if they're treated that way at times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/22 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Question for Red Pill: How do you explain women who don’t date “bad men”, never cheat, have male friends that aren’t interested romantically or only date average men?There is very much a bad-boy appeal I've seen play out too many times, not to mention frequent in romance novels. It's mostly among younger women, but when more wisdom is gained, most realize they aren't good men deep down. There are also women who come from dysfunctional backgrounds and see such things as normal. A while ago, I divided men's dating prospects into 20/75/5, though perhaps it'd be 20/70/10, depending on interpretation. For those in the middle category, dating's not what I'd call e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/22 06:25 AM |
| 8 | Q for men only : Can you ever see a woman as an equal?Yes, of course I can see women as equal. That's not a difficult question to answer. We often do get judged on our physical appearance. That's true of both genders, though I'm aware it's often worse on the female side. It isn't fair, though this is something I expect will always exist, even if male and female beauty standards change over time. I faced a fair amount of bullying myself for my looks. However, I can only speak from my own experience. Yours may be different. There are sexist men out t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: What are some red flags in men and which ones do you think you fall under?My lack of experience is a big red flag. If you're 19-20 and you're still a virgin/never had a relationship, it's not that big a deal. However, if you're in your 30s and lack experience, that's a different matter. There are multiple reasons, but the biggest is being on the autism spectrum. It's why I've said many times social skills play a bigger role than physical appearance, rants about "Chad" notwithstanding. For other men: if someone has multiple felony convictions, I doubt they're going to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Is there a sexually unappealing type of good looking?There's also that just because you might find someone attractive, it doesn't mean you want to date them. Dating and relationships are incredibly complicated, especially if you're autistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 07:16 PM |
| 3 | Promiscuity has little to do with looks in both men and women.A lot of the promiscuous men that I know of aren't good looking, or have very much to offer at all. They're by and large losers, complete with copious consumption of booze and drugs. And a surprising number of their partners are those who would have far better options. I genuinely don't get the appeal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: could you define “Chad™️”?The basic meaning is: any man who's more successful with women than you. Beyond that, a man who's handsome, athletic, wealthy, successful, a magnetic personality, and so forth. It's at least understandable as to why the "Chads" are successful with women. Why wouldn't women be interested in a handsome, confident man? People who use the term are often envious that they don't possess the same traits. What's a lot more perplexing to me is the appeal of worthless, pathetic losers with no job, no ambi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/22 05:21 PM |
| -11 | Unpopular opinion: incels are justified in feeling frustratedI once visited the incel forums and I couldn't stand to read it for more than a few moments. The sheer level of bile and hatred thrown at women, to the point where rape and sexual slavery is advocated, celebrating killers at martyrs. (I refuse to give them more publicity, so not using their names) However, there is an important distinction to be made between them and lonely men in general, the overwhelming majority of whom are not incels. I remember a blog post on this topic stating: "I'm happil… | /r/MensRights | 01/11/22 01:14 PM |
| 1 | What does the 'AF/BB' theory have to say about the 'Orgasm Gap'?For men, orgasm is a lot easier and straightforward. For women, it can vary between a simple matter to something all but impossible. Like anything else, there's a learning curve attached to it and every woman's body is different. A true boyfriend's more likely to engage in communication than a casual partner, not to mention there's an emotional component to it as well. The majority don't orgasm from vaginal sex alone (A minority do) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 11:15 PM |
| 14 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyWell, I don't agree with the RP interpretation. At the same time, women are the majority of voters, both due to higher life expectancy and because those with higher education are more likely to vote. Both genders have a voice in society and just because a politician is male doesn't mean they'll automatically side with their gender. The damsel in distress is sexist but it's been an enduring trope for a long time because it works as a motivator. Even in time periods and nations where women are sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 06:59 AM |
| 35 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyProblem is, men and boys are having a considerably harder time making it in the world. Wages have stagnated, both due to automation and outsourcing taking away a lot of traditional jobs. The 2008 crash was called the Man-cession because 80% of the jobs lost were male. Do porn and video games cause it or do young men consume so much of it as a coping mechanism for their lack of success? The Red Pill has a certain appeal for lonely men and there's enough truth on the surface to where it's possible… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 01:07 AM |
| 4 | Failing at finding a partner doesn't have to be anyone's faultI'm on the spectrum myself and want nothing to do with any of what I saw the one time I dared to check the forums out. I can sympathize to a degree, given I'm 33 years old, never had a relationship and the prospects for one in the future are pretty dim. I've learned to adapt, but there are times loneliness really sucks. Might not have been as bad under different circumstances, but that's not how things turned out. Problem is, I'm not sure how much can be done about it. For dating, social skills … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 04:36 AM |
| 21 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.It's a lot easier to assume they're misogynistic neckbeards who do nothing to improve themselves than to state that sometimes, things just don't work out. I have seen ugly people who manage fine, but a fair amount of that is luck, whether in terms of opportunity or natural charisma. I live in a small town and while it works fairly well for those who don't have trouble connecting to people, for me, it proved a major drawback. Life is a gamble and one thing going horribly wrong or wonderfully righ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 10:47 PM |
| 4 | Failing at finding a partner doesn't have to be anyone's faultIn a previous post, I divided it into three groups, the first one being those for whom finding a relationship has never been an issue. This is what the RP promises to turn you into. Most fall into the second group: dating is difficult and a struggle, but it usually happens at some point. If it doesn't as a teenager, having sex and love occurs by the time you're in your 20s. The third group are the ones that, barring good fortune, are essentially boned. Many with a disability fall into this categ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 08:06 PM |
| 6 | Failing at finding a partner doesn't have to be anyone's faultI happen to be on the autism spectrum and I've never figured out how to attract a partner. I might have had more luck if the circumstances were different, but that's not how things turned out. Spent my whole life trying to crack the code of friendships and dating, but never succeeded beyond a surface level. Problem is, I can say through personal experience you're going to be called a horrible misogynist no matter what, no matter how much you insist you don't blame women, care about their issues,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 07:59 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Criminalizing prostitution is silly and misogynistic.My feelings about it are very mixed. Prostitution is a dangerous line of work even under ideal circumstances and for those on the street, it's even worse. Nor do they go to the police due to stigma. It's called the world's oldest profession for a reason and I'd like sex workers to have somewhere to go in case of dangerous clients. However, I'm not sure about decriminalization because I fear the spike in demand would led to a similar increase in human trafficking, especially with women from poor … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 03:05 PM |
| 46 | Ned Fulmer cheated on his wife- Final nail in the coffin for the 'Pick Better' narrativeSome guys are just going to sleep around, no matter how successful they might be. Tiger Woods had a supermodel wife, but this didn't stop him from cheating on her with something like 100 different women. I wouldn't blame the wife for it. Sadly, you can't always know in advance which of them will remain faithful and who won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/22 01:34 PM |
| – | Women overrate "good communication" because of halo effectTinder is primarily a Hookup app, even if there are those who start genuine relationships on them. Given its limitations and design, most are going off of physical appearance. Then there's the exchange of lewd pictures. Looks are important, but communication even more so. It's socially awkward men who are often the worst off in the dating realm, whether that be online or in person. Sadly, you can be a disgusting human being and manage just fine with women; seen that play out too many times to co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/22 03:39 PM |
| 11 | The Red Pill's AppealWhen I opened up about how painful my lack of success was, the response was: "Do the world a favor and kill yourself, incel!" Until then, I hadn't known what the term was. A common attitude seems to be that if a man isn't successful in finding relationships, it's because they're horrible misogynists. As I've said before, I don't believe that to be the case, doubly so because I can think of a couple misogynists I've encountered who do fine in that regard. Sometimes, it can merely be a matter of l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 01:51 PM |
| 9 | The Red Pill's AppealThere's enough truth to it to be appealing to certain people, like what I stated about physical attractiveness and social and social skills, but the kind of attitudes I see so often is disgusting. At the same time, I disagree with the idea of: "Men are unsuccessful because they're raging misogynists!" You can certainly point to individual cases, but I don't think it's any more true than: "Poor people are poor because they're lazy." Sometimes, it can come down to nothing more than luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 10:19 AM |
| 3 | why is is when a underage male is in a relationship with a a women of age, usually other men are encouraging it?I have an online friend in southern Mexico who told me something similar. However, there's a difference between visiting a prostitute and having the woman in a position of authority over you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 05:04 AM |
| 4 | why is is when a underage male is in a relationship with a a women of age, usually other men are encouraging it?15-20 years ago, it was pretty well believed that this had no impact on boys, that it was even a beneficial experience for them. I read trained psychologists state this, not merely fools on the internet. Now there's more and more coming out indicating this isn't true. Guys might think they're lucky, mostly those who haven't been in that position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 02:46 AM |
| 5 | What comes after "Work on yourself" has failed?I wish I had a good answer for you. I'm 33 years old and I've spent most of my life alone, with neither friends nor partners. Outside the internet, I don't have a social life. Sad thing is: sometimes it just comes down to luck. The right person arrives at the right time, and you hit it off, whether that's platonic or romantic. Just losing weight and being fit is a significant accomplishment, so you should be proud of that. So is improving your social skills: I've never been able to approach the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 08:26 AM |
| 1 | It’s actually easy for men to get women, BUT it’s HARD to get attractive womenI made an effort for many years and nothing ever happened. The standards I have are nothing to do with appearance; I don't want alcohol and drug abuse in my life, no matter how attractive she is. I've had both a close friend and family member go down that path and I'm not putting up with that kind of hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Would more men be considered attractive if they worked out?Even if I starved myself, I wouldn't be able to reach 15% body fat. Go to the gym 3 times a week and walk at least 12,000 steps a day, sometimes more. I've slimmed down, certainly compared to where I once was, but hasn't been any difference in terms of female attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 11:01 PM |
| 4 | What's some shit you see on dating profiles that just makes you throw up your arms like "DUDE WHY?!"Well, I've tried online dating for 2.5 years and never had any luck with it. I know to avoid the obvious pitfalls like writing sexual messages, but clubbing has never been something that holds any appeal to me. For me, it's when her dating profile is a long, political rant; that's an immediate no, regardless of where my affiliation is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 10:10 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Autism is a death sentence for men.I'm 33 and on the autism spectrum, so I'd say it does make things a lot more difficult. Been on a single date in my life and that's it. My estimation for the virgin/FA forums is something around 25-30% of them are on the spectrum. Might have been different if I'd gotten help and support, but that's not the way things worked out. It's why I roll my eyes at a lot of the: "Women are entitled harpies who only want Chad!" I'm not a bad looking man and I've seen genuinely ugly people, inside and out, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 01:47 PM |
| 17 | Where did the ‘nice guy phenomenon come from?Unfortunately, anyone who dares to express unhappiness at never having any luck with woman will be labeled an entitled, misogynistic man-baby. Sure, there are those who fit the description but I don't think the claim of: "Women don't like you because you're an entitled misogynist!" is any more true than: "Poor people are poor because they're lazy!" Even for genuinely kind people, there are moments it can get frustrating. I've seen genuinely worthless people with no ambition, nothing to offer who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/22 12:03 AM |
| 3 | Men have it easier and harder in datingIt's challenging for women in a different way. People generally date within their own education/income level. Given women make up around 60% of college graduates, finding a partner can be tricky. I have a middle class background, but am barely above poverty, so it's hard to relate to people I encounter at work. With men, all talks of equality aside, you usually have to make the first move: from asking a woman out, to a kiss, to going farther, to breaching the topic of sex. No, it's not always li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 03:59 AM |
| 3 | What age does it start to become 'weird' to still be a virgin? When does it go from "that's cute" to a red flag to a dealbreaker?I'd put it at around 25. Over the past 10-15 years, older virgins are not seen as something played for comedy, but an Elliot Rodgers in the making. Doubly so if it isn't voluntary, which it often isn't. There's a difference between those who haven't had any success versus those on the actual incel forums, but too many prefer to lump them all in together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 02:56 AM |
| 4 | Men have it easier and harder in datingIt's also people tend to date within their own social and education class. Men, however, are more willing to date down than women are. I've seen a lot of articles from women stating they can't find partners despite years of searching. They tend to be college educated and upper middle class. Given the college ratio is around 60% female/40% male, and likely to grow, this problem isn't likely to disappear anytime soon. Social skills are the biggest factor of all. Being unattractive is a handicap, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 02:53 AM |
| 6 | Men have it easier and harder in datingMany did, though plenty of successful men are also lucky. For example, the biggest decider of which social class you end up in is the one you're born in. Others are also born with good genetics and good looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 01:12 AM |
| 1 | men are Hornier than womenMen are generally more willing to have casual sex, yes. However, when it comes to actual relationships, women can have just as strong a libido, if not more so. And when it comes to porn, yes men consume more if you only take into account sites like Pornhub and OnlyFans. If you include erotica, it looks a little different (Think of how "Fifty Shades of Grey" sold 150 million copies) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 12:03 AM |
| 3 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Ok, where did I demonize promiscuous women? I'm referring to both genders, not women by themselves. If someone wants to sleep around, go for it, as long as they're being honest with their partners. I personally don't think it's a good idea, but I'm not going to tell them how to run their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:25 PM |
| 3 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I have a couple family members who've had a lot of partners and am more familiar with their social circles than I ever wanted to be. Numbers of partners in the dozens aren't uncommon, with cheating being the norm. Given all the drug and alcohol abuse, I wouldn't peg them as happy individuals. No, I don't know the sexual past of every individual, but having many partners in your younger years doesn't mean you were happy and fulfilled by doing so. I can only speak from my own experiences, and ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:09 PM |
| 6 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I personally don't think promiscuity leads to long-term happiness for either gender, at least not that I've encountered. Sure, I expect it's fun for a while and when you're a teenager/early 20s, it might be all you care about. Thing is, and this is where I disagree with feminism, women enforce gender roles as much as men do. Virginity is seen as a red flag past a certain age, considering "virgin" and "incel" to be synonymous when they aren't. I noticed after Elliot Rodgers, it turned from someth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:27 PM |
| 1 | What is worse to you: have a relationship but almost no friends, or the reverse?Given I don't have a relationship or a social circle, either one would seem better. The two can also go together, since social skills are crucial for romance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 05:23 AM |
| 3 | The idea that “if you were truly good looking/socially savvy you wouldn’t be struggling” is a huge fallacy here. Due to women’s inflated egos, even attractive men struggle.It's easy to understand how women are attracted to those who are handsome, confident, good with people, successful in economics and interpersonal relationships. However, in my experience, they aren't the truly successful ones with women, defining this as the number of partners. Those I've seen who are most successful are by and large worthless losers who can't hold down a job, have no future, spend their spare time using dope, treat the people around them like shit, and usually aren't even good … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Why would people attracted to the Red Pill philosophy listen to you when you claim it doesn't work?I'm male, but I'll answer anyway. I don't think the Red Pill is wrong, necessarily, when it comes to gathering up the courage to approach women. Talks of equality aside, men have to make the first move most of the time. I also think they're right about improving yourself in terms of looks, fashion, and being able to read others. What I object to is the oft-repeated attitude of: "Women are entitled, disgusting bitches who only want to fuck Chad!" I don't have to look far on this thread to see exa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:10 AM |
| 3 | Is increased porn use a cause or symptom of sexlessness?Well, the Victorians weren't as prudish as we often believe. In fact, they produced an enormous amount of written porn with innocent-sounding titles. Asked a couple people like that out, always with a "no." I've tried various online dating platforms for over 2 years. Managed to find a single date, but nothing more than that. Working on improving my appearance, saving up for a decent camera, etc. Or are you suggesting the old written word, going back to a time before word processors? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:50 AM |
| 7 | Is increased porn use a cause or symptom of sexlessness?Depends on whether you belong to the sex-negative or sex-positive branch, because I've heard women describe it as: "We can be sluts and sleep around if we want, just like men!" If you include erotica, women consume just as much, and I've seen some pretty extreme forms. You're very unlikely to find a virgin bride in the modern world. I personally don't care about her number of partners, long as she isn't lying to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:01 AM |
| 3 | Is increased porn use a cause or symptom of sexlessness?I'd have moved a long time ago, for numerous reasons, if I could, but I don't have the money. Took me more than 2 years to find the seasonal temp job I currently possess. I likewise learned not to mentioned being on the spectrum because there's a good chance they don't hire you, Americans With Disabilities Act aside. Hence why I've always said when it comes to dating, social awkwardness is the true death sentence for men, not physical appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Is increased porn use a cause or symptom of sexlessness?My town also has less than 2,000 people, complicating it more. Much as I try to mask, I'm always going to appear a bit different, which can scare people, at least those who aren't familiar with me. I've gotten some pretty severe reactions to my flirting attempts. Both being on the spectrum doesn't equal being compatible because it affects people in very different ways. Years ago, I met someone on the spectrum and we stopped talking to each other because he couldn't tolerate that I disagreed with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:46 PM |
| 8 | Is increased porn use a cause or symptom of sexlessness?Hiring a prostitute/escort gives immediate pleasure, but I would agree that it doesn't fix the long-term problem. I happen to be on the autism spectrum, born several years too early to get support, and this makes even basic social interaction very difficult. Social rules seem to change on a whim and I can't keep up. Having spent some time on the virgin/FA forums, I'd say a significant number there are on the spectrum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:05 PM |
| 18 | Is increased porn use a cause or symptom of sexlessness?Yeah, and a lot of it repulses me. While I know the distinction can be blurry, while rough sex can be alluring, a good portion of porn videos are downright brutal. I genuinely don't see the appeal in a lot of them. Too many young people get their sexual education from porn, not understanding much of this is fantasy. Not that it's necessarily wrong, if you're able to comprehend this. Even if you block it on your computer, they're likely to have friends that aren't under similar restrictions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:00 PM |
| 4 | Is increased porn use a cause or symptom of sexlessness?That's more or less my conclusion, though I do think there are occasions where people look out of curiosity, get hooked, and have a hell of a time getting out of that pattern. And while it's primarily men, we've seen an increasing issue among women as well. Question is: what do you do about it? You can't ban internet porn, however much some might want to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 10:56 PM |
| 6 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herI don't have any issue with how many partners someone has, so long as they're being honest with those they're sleeping. Sadly, all too often, this isn't the case. Besides, given the average marriage age is close to 30, it's going to be pretty damned hard to find a virgin anyway. Nor do I believe sex is a decision to be made mildly. I've encountered my share of promiscuous individuals, but I wouldn't say any of them are particularly happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:13 AM |
| 5 | Unpopular opinion: Obesity is not the insane problem that it is made out be here and the average person is not obeseYes and no. You don't have to be considered that fat to be medically obese. There seems to be this perception with statistics about 40% of adults being obese that: "My God, they're 400 pounds!" Perception is different from the medical definition. I forget where I found the study, but it stated those with a BMI of 27-32 had the greatest number of partners. It only really had an impact at around 37 BMI and above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated adviceSadly, I never really had a social circle even as a kid and haven't had any luck forming one as an adult, either. I've said on many occasions that social skills are more crucial when it comes to dating than physical appearance. Seen numerous ugly men manage fine with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 02:02 PM |
| 6 | So how many sex partners means a woman is "riding a cock carousel"?My definition of a slut is an unconventional one. It has nothing to do with the number of partners a woman has. It has a lot more to do with manipulation, stringing someone along, or pretending you like them for no other reason than you think it's funny. Far as I'm concerned, long as she's being honest with her partner about what she's looking for, go for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 03:56 PM |
| 4 | Women really dislike autistic menBeing on the spectrum myself, I've found that after many years of practice, I can mask, but only to a certain degree. I know the obvious rules, but it's never become second nature to me, and I still watch what I say. When I let my guard down and relax, I end up saying something I shouldn't, which doesn't end well. It's enough for casual conversation, but dating's another matter. Having to follow different rules makes it even more complicated. It's why I've said many times here that social skills… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:11 AM |
| 5 | Do you think men with autism are doomed in the current dating world?As someone who is on the spectrum, it may not be impossible, but it does make things a lot more difficult. The attempts I made at flirting were a disaster and more than once, I was told they'd call the cops if I ever spoke to them again. Sometimes I didn't even need to flirt for such a reaction. However, you've managed to find a high-paying job and a social circle, so you're higher functioning. There really isn't much else I can say beyond: "Good luck, I hope it works out for you." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 01:49 PM |
| 15 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Unfortunately, that isn't true. This is exactly what was said to me when I was lonely and feeling like no one would ever love me. Nor am I the only one. Can't help but remember what happened with Scott Aaronson when he opened up about his suicidal depression over being terrified about being a creep. https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/01/untitled/ is one of the people defending him and the blogger described this as the most controversial thing he'd said in 15 years of blogging. I've followed him … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 03:26 AM |
| 119 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?There seems to be this idea that if women continually reject you, it's because you're a misogynistic pig, that if you just weren't a horrible, sexist asshole, women would find you attractive. It isn't true. In fact, I've known sexist, misogynist assholes and they do just fine with women. For some men, there may not be much to be done about their forever-alone status. I've always been an advocate of compassion. So what I would say is: when men feel lonely and wonder why women aren't interested in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 03:18 AM |
| 2 | I think PPD is a victim of selection biasLook, we might as well face it: men and women are natural enemies. Like Englishmen and Scots. . . or Welshmen and Scots. . . or Japanese and Scots. . . or Scots and other Scots! Damn Scots; they ruined Scotland! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Are women to blame for you not having sex? Or are your standards too high?It's not necessarily the man's fault, either. Sometimes, it's nobody's fault: things just turn out the way they turn out. Everyone does what they can with what they're given, men and women. For some, this turns out badly. My main issue was being autistic and not getting support for it, hence why I've said on countless occasions that social skills, not looks, play the most crucial role. I didn't go after the 8-10s, at least not often. I always fell for the smart girls; the one I had an enormous c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:45 AM |
| 11 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menNo, sex and relationships aren't a silver bullet, but it's something that's easier to say when you're not the one in that position. Just glancing at the Virgin and Forever Alone forums, the despair is palpable. I personally don't think casual sex leads to long-term fulfillment, but it still seems better than nothing. I've listened to numerous people tell me: "Relationships really aren't that great" while clinging onto toxic partners rather than be alone. Casual sex might not, but relationships a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 01:31 AM |
| 28 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menThe most successful guys I've seen, at least if you want to talk about just the number of partners, are often worthless losers. I've heard all kinds of rants about "Chad" here, but they're about as far from that as you can get. No job, no ambition, mooches off everyone, treats their partners like dirt, abuse drugs and alcohol, and most of the time, they're not good looking. I genuinely don't understand the appeal. Social skills are where it's more important to men than women in terms of dating s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 01:24 AM |
| 1 | One common issue i’ve seen here is that people tend to treat dating as some kind of equation or formulaI've learned to do it for its own sake, not in hopes of attracting women. I've come a long way on my self-worth and inner value in the past couple of years, but it still takes a great deal of work to keep myself together at times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 10:57 PM |
| 2 | One common issue i’ve seen here is that people tend to treat dating as some kind of equation or formulaDating is difficult for most people, whether male or female. All too often, when you're told to focus on yourself, it translates into: "Shut the hell up." One bad experience can poison you toward an entire gender and when you're lonely, it's easy to go on rants about how women are entitled, selfish bitches or men only give a damn about sex. Thing is, we all do what we can with what life gives us, and sometimes, things just turn out the way they turn out. I've said on many occasions that social s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Should you show your weaknesses & vulnerabilities to women that you are dating?I've learned it's often not a good idea to do in general. I suffered from depression for a lot of years for various reasons and even now, I've found opening up to people often makes them not want to be around me. Even if they've opened up more than I have and I tried to be supportive. If you're in a committed, long-term relationship, I think you can afford some vulnerability. I wouldn't do it when you first start dating, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:41 PM |
| 6 | Where are all the good men sub has really become toxic.I lurked there once or twice, so this doesn't surprise me. Yeah, there are genuinely toxic women ranting: "If you're not six feet, don't bother messaging me!" but so much of it is attacking women for having any standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:26 PM |
| 1 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)Depends on what you call overweight. You don't have to be that big to be considered overweight or even obese. There's this idea that 1/3rd of people in the country weigh 350-400 pounds because that's what we tend to think when we picture "obese." For me, body weight isn't too important, though there's a limit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 02:47 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......I agree with a lot of what you said, but not all. With the lack of fear walking home at night or doing any traveling, that's more perception than reality. Men are more likely to be victims of street crime, but there's a often mistaken belief that they can defend themselves should anything happen. I agree with three and four. Partially agree with five. I'm rarely taken seriously at my job, though it sounds like you work in a much higher income bracket than I do. However, I can only speak for my e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 01:04 AM |
| 1 | If we had absolutely perfect data on sex and relationships, what are the sorts of things we would discover about people?Given we don't and never will have perfect data, this is all speculation, but I'll play. Women are just as horny as men, perhaps even more so. I remember a study where women were hooked up to a polygraph and they reported more partners than men. (Women being more likely to experiment with one another) I remember a joke that said: "Whatever a man tells you, cut it in half. Whatever a woman tells you, double it." Women also enforce gender roles, like who has to approach first, who has to initiate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 03:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Self-improvement and "loving yourself" are poor substitutes for romantic relationshipsI'm in a similar position as you. I'm almost 33 years old, never been in a relationship, or do anything more than kiss (and that only twice) and being on the spectrum makes basic social interaction tricky, let alone all the subtle cues dating involves. Over the last couple years, I've been learning to find fulfillment outside social interaction. I don't have friends I spend time with, either, and never really did. So I read, research, and work on my various writing projects when I'm not working.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 11:16 PM |
| 14 | CMV: Self-improvement and "loving yourself" are poor substitutes for romantic relationshipsSome of this comes from not knowing what else they can do, or the attitude: "It worked for me, so it'll work for everyone." On other occasions, they're hoping you just shut up about it. Self-improvement and development is worth doing for its own sake, not out of hopes that women will suddenly flock to you. Sad thing is, sometimes kind, loving, decent men end up spending their lives alone through no fault of their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 11:09 PM |
| 5 | how to address gender entitlement?Something to keep in mind: there's a distinction between being sad or frustrated that you're not considered attractive versus being it's something you're owed. Far too many can't tell the difference. Given your situation, I can imagine it's lonely not having men attracted to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 11:06 PM |
| 0 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectSomething to keep in mind: that number encompasses men from the ages of 18-30, which is sizable when taking sex into account. I do agree that the numbers have gone up over the last ten years, but I'm not sure what, if anything, can be done about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 03:44 PM |
| 0 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectIt's always hard to get accurate numbers when it comes to sex, given it's a topic people frequently lie about, even on anonymous surveys. I joke: "Whatever a man tells you, cut it in half. Whatever a woman tells you, double it." The average joe struggles with dating, especially on the low end, but this is the group where learning social skills and self-improvement makes a real difference. Where the usual advice "Focus on yourself, and it will come, learn to talk to women" and so forth matters. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 01:23 PM |
| 2 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectI don't think the claim of: "They'd be successful with women if they weren't misogynist" is true, either. It's very possible to be a kind, decent man and still have no success with women, as I mentioned at the end of my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 12:59 PM |
| 4 | Are humans more inclined towards polygyny? If so, should polygyny be more normalized?It ends up being oppressive to both men and women. Women have to compete for a single man's attention and harems weren't anything like the romanticized version you see. They were full of backstabbing, treachery, and even murder. Might sound good if you're one of the 5-10% of men who has the wealth for multiple wives, but that would leave 25-30% of men with no options at all. That's not a good recipe for societal stability. China's got a huge problem with 100 million excess young men and we've go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 04:58 AM |
| 1 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectThe 75% do struggle, but there's a difference between that and a complete lack of success. The 5% are those who may never find a partner outside of maybe sex workers, no matter what they attempt to improve themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 04:03 AM |
| 3 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectI've been here for a while; the competition ain't fierce lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 04:02 AM |
| 2 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectSex is one of those things that's hard to get accurate numbers on because people lie about it. I remember a study involving two groups of women: the first were told their answers would be known to others, the second strapped to polygraphs. Group 1 worked to out-do each other in a chastity contest, while Group 2 reported slightly more partners than men. (Female same-sex experimentation tends to be more common than the male equivalent) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 01:06 AM |
| 6 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrecthttps://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-turning-into-a-great-sex-depression Even if it's still a minority, fewer people are having sex. I expect this is where the Red Pill has its appeal, with the formula of attracting women to you. I've also noticed a difference in how older virgins are treated. At one time, this was played for comedy where you laugh at their attempts to have sex: "40 year old virgin" and others. However, since Elliot Rodgers went on a rampage, the narrative has changed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 12:52 AM |
| 2 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectIn general, people who are in relationships are happier than those who aren't, even if not always. However, I mean genuine, loving relationship, not one-night stand or fuck buddy arrangements. I know some disagree, but while casual sex might be fun, I don't think it leads to long-term happiness. It's the last category I mentioned who really have a tough time of it, and there may not be a good solution for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 12:44 AM |
| 10 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectThat covers a large age group and 18 is only slightly above the average. And 30% of them being virgins still means that 70% aren't. The number of older virgins have gone up, but some here seem to believe "Chad" is the only one having an active sex life. With dating, being unattractive is a handicap, but not a fatal one. Being socially awkward is the true death sentence for men, since we're expected to make the first move, from kissing to sex. That's a hard thing to do for most people and rejecti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 12:37 AM |
| 13 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectSo the only thing that matters is casual sex and how many women you can have it with? Even during our sex recession, the majority of men have had sex in the past year. And you can easily be without sex for a couple years, then have an active sex life once you find a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 12:28 AM |
| 2 | The “ bad boy” stereotype exists because of the halo affect on womenI've seen women on multiple occasions go for worthless losers when they don't have ugly backgrounds, though that's certainly a risk. A family member explained it to me as: "The heart wants what the heart wants," even when she knows it's not a good idea. There seems to be this idea of: "He's a good person deep down!" when he really isn't. It goes about as well as the Manic Pixie Dream Girl does for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 01:06 AM |
| 8 | What's your "I'm such a catch, but nobody wants me" grievance? Can you elaborate on that and point out what you think you deserve?I'm fully aware of why I struggle so much with attracting women, or just social interaction in general. However, the trait's one that I was born with and will have until my dying day, so there isn't much I can do about it. Thing is, I likely have more romantic fantasies than sexual ones, which I know sounds strange coming from a man. I don't think "deserving" has anything to do with how successful you are. All of us, men and women, play the cards we're dealt the best we can. Sometimes, this lead… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 10:46 PM |
| 36 | Dating women as a woman has made me more sympathetic to the dating woes of men.Dating is difficult and tricky for everyone, just not in the same way. Even if I consider myself feminist, women enforce gender roles just as much as men do, perhaps even more. I'm reminded of the book: "Self-made Man", where a lesbian lives as a man for a year. At the end of her experiment, she declares: "Thank God I'm a woman!" Opening up about "his" feelings ended up being an immediate turn-off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 10:24 PM |
| 7 | The root of a lot of misogyny is western society putting pressure on men to have sex as fast as they can.The term "incel" has pretty well turned into something that shames virgins, regardless of whether of not they fall into the subculture. It's an unfair societal expectation, but something both genders enforce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 01:17 AM |
| 3 | When discussing dating, women do not consider the average men as people so they compare themselves to the top 10% which is why they think dating is harder for them.It depends on what factors you're taking into account. The top 20% I've frequently heard cited here are the guys for whom finding a relationship is easy and natural, to the point where they're rarely without one. Most men. . . sometimes they have a partner and a sex life, but sometimes they don't. According to the latest indications, 30% of men 18-34 haven't had sex in the past year. That still means 70% have and even among the 30%, many have had sex at some point in their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 07:08 PM |
| 2 | women and men with obvious red flagsSometimes, people will ignore red flags like: "Multiple domestic violence convictions, a prison record, copious consumption of alcohol and drugs." There are times it amazes me, given I've never seen that scenario have a happy ending. For me, a red flag would be someone describes all their former partners as awful, evil people. Sure, plenty of us have these stories, but everyone they've ever dated. . . indicates to me that either they have really bad taste in partners, or they're more of the prob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/22 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Most men who don't have "success" with women are a-social. Lack of social skills is a far bigger hindrance than the aspect of looks.Funny, I've said this on many occasions, only for people to tell me: "No, it's all looks! Women only want Chad!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 11:35 PM |
| 17 | The dating scene is designed for the benefit of ambicious smart menWorking your ass off is no guarantee you'll get anywhere. The biggest indication for what social class you end up in is the one you're born in. All of us, men and women, do what we can with the cards we've given. Sometimes, this leads to poor outcomes despite doing everything you're supposed to do. It's possible to make no mistakes and still lose because of unexpected curveballs or merely having too many strikes against you at birth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 04:48 PM |
| 2 | If you're fat, there's no point in complaining about not finding any thin girls to date.You don't have to be that big to be considered obese. Sometimes people look at these individuals that are 350-400 pounds and think: "A third of the country is that fat!" Nor does it really impact the average number of partners until you reach a BMI of 40 and beyond. I'm still pretty obese but it's a lot better than it was years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 04:21 PM |
| 4 | Men have it easier and harder in datingYou seem to assume I'm doing nothing but sitting on my hands. I work hard to improve myself every day, physically and mentally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 04:01 AM |
| 6 | Men have it easier and harder in datingCouple issues with that. For one, male autistics are about four times more common, though some of this may be because it's underdiagnosed. The second is, sharing a disability doesn't make you compatible. Females on the spectrum are more vulnerable to physical and sexual violence, which leads to increased weariness of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 02:47 AM |
| 4 | Women would not give so much importance to getting old if male attention was not a priority for themBoth genders want the opposite sex to find them attractive. There's nothing wrong or unusual about that. Some will go to some pretty extreme measures to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/22 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Men are not oppressed by women, they are oppressed by institutions.The problem with Patriarchy is: for some, it's basically their version of Satan, responsible for all the evils and injustices of the world. Women enforce gender roles as well. I've been told to man up more often from women than I have men, or get told: "Just think positive! Once you have positive thoughts, you'll have positive results! Yes, it's truly that simple." About 90% of all the advice I received over my lifetime was some rendition of this. Frankly, even feminists enforce gender roles. On… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/22 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Women say most men are “awful,” toxic or undateable, or that “the bar is so low” which is such a joke. Most men worship the ground women walk on, even attractive ones, and women are ridiculously selective.Women are likely to run into an asshole who can make it seem like all men are horrible people. I've listened to countless about how men are all the same. Sad thing is, an asshole can do far more harm than a good man can do good, because they don't care who they hurt, so long as they get what they want. For certain people, the number of individuals they harm can run into the hundreds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/22 12:16 AM |
| 1 | What eventually happens to most of the single men on online dating?You're likely to run into someone who says: "I love you, you're my soulmate, and by the way, I need you to send me some money." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/22 05:29 AM |
| 9 | Dating, Marriage, and life is full of Female PrivelegeGiven the experiences of many of the women I've known, I've got to disagree with this. My sister's been stalked more than once, had an ex who stranded her on the side of the road out of pure spite, and numerous other stories I don't intend to share. Another woman I know who spent her senior year of school being harassed, and more survivors than I ever thought I'd encounter. Dating sucks for everyone and social skills play a big role in that, as I've said many times. I'm on the autism spectrum an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 04:29 AM |
| 1 | Do women realize how little maintenance men need to be statistically faithful?Depends on the man you're talking about. Some are starved for intimacy and don't know what to do about this. Others would cheat at every opportunity even if they were married to a supermodel (like Tiger Woods) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/22 09:26 AM |
| 5 | Has anyone had their view changed bc of a debate here on PPDNot overnight, but I eventually became a lot more feminist. I used to be, if not anti-feminist, at least sympathetic to it. Listening to the countless posts ranting about Chads and Stacies, about how horrible and entitled women are, soured me on it. Still don't agree with everything, but I listen in a way I previously didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/22 04:49 AM |
| 2 | What every man wants and what very few get….perhapsI'm less open with my emotions than was once the case, and since I know negativity can be grating, I understand how people may not want to listen to it. Gender roles may not be fair, but it's something women enforce as well. I've been told more than once to "man up" and it tends to come from women. I agree with feminists in a lot of aspects, but to state only men berate other men for opening up is incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/22 12:13 AM |
| 5 | Most people want the benefits of trad relationships without upholding their end of the bargainI will say, submissive does not appeal to me. I want a girlfriend and partner, not a doormat. I've said many times here that dating sucks for everyone, albeit in different fashion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 10:05 PM |
| 1 | What will happen when technology reaches a point where you can choose your baby’s gender?Depends on what part of the world you're talking about, leaving out sex-selective abortion. in the West, it could end up leading to a surplus of male births, but assuming no great social changes elsewhere, Asia, Africa, and the Middle East you'd likely see a more lopsided male ratio. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/22 08:11 PM |
| 3 | Q4M, What advice would you give to your daughter or younger female sibling about dealing with inappropriateness from other men?If he's got a long felony record, he's not going to make a good romantic partner. Might seem obvious, but I've seen this play out over and over, with the justification: "The heart wants what the heart wants." Your heart might have a voice, but give your brain veto power. Having to be on guard sucks all around, both for the women who have to be wary of men, and the men who are merely giving a compliment are expressing interest. Unfortunately, there's no real way around that. Beyond that, it's goi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Virginity is a choiceSpeaking as someone who's never had a woman interested in him, I've took and taken active steps to change that. Hasn't worked out so far. You can use the same argument to claim: "You're poor because you refuse to work hard enough to change that!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 09:12 PM |
| 9 | Virginity is a choiceJust like being poor is a choice, or being depressed is a choice. Interest doesn't necessarily correlate to having sex. There may be more to life than sex, but that doesn't equal any woman showing interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 09:07 PM |
| 11 | The threat of violence and sexual assault, while real, is dramatically overblown and overused by women as an excuse for misandrist behavior and to generalize the entire male population, most of which is harmless to themSadly, I've got to disagree. It's difficult for me to think of a woman I know who hasn't been raped or abused or molested. A couple go three for three. True, most men don't behave that way, but you don't know which ones will, so the fear is a valid one. My sister had an ex who broke her key in the ignition and smashed her phone so she couldn't call for help, forcing her to spend hours walking along the side of the road in the middle of the night. Also had a stalker at work who repeatedly proposi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't have the right to criticize prositution and sex workersI have no issue with sex work and believe it should be legalized. Not because it's going to provide a magic bullet to lonely men, but because it's a dangerous job even under ideal circumstances. You're not going to stop men using prostitutes and watching porn; it's called the world's oldest profession for a reason. I support making it as safe and smooth as possible, both for sex workers and their clients. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/22 02:42 AM |
| 1 | What do you all think of my “sexual commandment?”I pretty well agree with this. Personally, I don't think sleeping around leads to long-term happiness, but it's up to you. Provided, of course, you're being honest with your partner about what this arrangement is. Problem is, people too often aren't, letting someone see this as a real relationship when it's just sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 12:48 AM |
| 5 | Russia vs Ukraine Mega-ThreadThis is going to get very, very ugly. Russia's already running into supply problems and it's only been a few days. Nor have they managed to obtain air supremacy, contrary to expectations. Problem is, Putin's committed to this fight now. Russia expected an easy victory, but no plan survives contact with the enemy. If he can't beat Ukraine, he certainly can't fight NATO, even leaving the U.S. out. He can't afford to back down; it would be a complete humiliation and lead to his ouster. So he'll do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 03:14 AM |
| 0 | In your opinion, how does "Nice guy" stereotype affects actual good guys?Even for genuinely kind people, when you're lonely, there are going to be times it gets to you. Loneliness burns, especially when it's lasted for a long period of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 03:11 AM |
| 3 | What is the best route for autistic men to take in regards to dating?Being on the spectrum myself, I really don't know. I've learned to compensate to a certain degree, but it's still very difficult. Body language is extremely difficult for me and obvious social cues often go unnoticed by me, let alone all the subtleties that flirting and dating involve. Might have been easier if I'd gotten support, but I came along a bit too early for that. There's a reason I've said many times that social awkwardness is the true death sentence for men, not appearance the way so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/22 05:28 AM |
| 3 | The Red and Blue Pills are Both Correct...Just for Different GroupsKeep in mind, those numbers are between the ages of 18 and 30. My focus was more on the upper end of that spectrum: late 20s, 30 and beyond. The data I've found is only 2-3% of men are still virgins at 30. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jun/18/later-in-life-virgins-at-my-age-it-becomes-a-red-flag https://dating.lovetoknow.com/30_Year_Old_Virgin I wouldn't consider virginity to be an issue if you're a teenager or young adult. It can start becoming one, and I'd put that point at 25.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 10:49 AM |
| 1 | The Red and Blue Pills are Both Correct...Just for Different GroupsI'd put as more 20/75/5: The 20% of men are those who are rarely, if ever, without a partner. They have lots of opportunities, often with an active sex life. These are the men who are generally good-looking, confident, good with people, and just plain fun to be around. 75%: These are your average guys, with most people falling into this category. Sometimes they have a partner, sometimes they don't. They don't necessarily lose their virginity in high school but almost always lose it by the time t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 05:25 AM |
| 58 | A lot of "sluts" simply experience spontaneous sexual desire & "good girls" have responsive or contextual sexual desireI don't think promiscuity leads to more than momentary happiness, for men or women. However, it's their lives so I don't see an issue so long as they're being honest with their partners. It's lying that I have a problem with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 03:49 AM |
| 9 | Almost everyone has an excuse to fail at datingMy main obstacle has always been being on the autism spectrum. Even if I'll never win any modeling contests, I'm not bad looking. Problem is, even basic social signals are often hard for me, let alone all the subtlety of flirting that I've never been able to keep up on. Trying to imitate how others succeed never worked because it's all nonverbal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMy feeling is, if there is indeed a God, he's a being so far beyond human comprehension that we couldn't hope to understand what His will is. You might as well try to explain quantum mechanics to ants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/22 12:31 PM |
| 2 | "But approaching in real life could get me arrested!" - No it can'tI've actually had that happen to me, though it was technically campus security, not an actual police officer. Couple other occasions where I told a girl I thought she was pretty and she freaked out on me. And lost my job for being friendly to a woman: I never flirted with her, and I still have no idea what it was that spooked her. It might not be the equivalent of women facing physical danger, but these sorts of things do happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/22 08:24 PM |
| 5 | What's a belief you hold that the ideology you identify with would vehemently deny?That women enforce gender roles as much as men do. I've heard a lot more slut-shaming and body-shaming from women than I ever have from men, to give one example. I've also read numerous articles about broke men hurting women's marriage prospects, and for all the hatred of the "Damsel in Distress" in fiction, it works, else it wouldn't be so frequently used. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 08:29 PM |
| 6 | Men, what are you looking for in women?An absolute deal breaker is drug and alcohol abuse, no matter how attractive the woman is. I endured that for too damned long from a family member and will not suffer through it again. I can accept it if she sometimes has a few drinks with friends, but if she's in the habit of coming home stumbling drunk, not a chance. As for what I'm looking for, someone who can match my physical affection, hold intelligent conversations, and genuinely enjoy my company. Looks aren't a big priority, given they f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 03:30 AM |
| 4 | Q for sexually unsuccessful men: would you be ok with a woman who is not attracted to you dating you simply to shirk hypergamyI've always felt the 80/20 was a load of BS. The average age for losing their virginity is about 17/17.5, so either the remaining 20% of women are really getting around, or it's a load of nonsense. Haven't been successful, but I'd want to be with a woman who genuinely wants to be with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 03:25 AM |
| 0 | Men: incels are poor unloved victims because their looks, why do women not like incels???? Also incels:I can sympathize to a degree, struggling with loneliness myself. There still isn't any justification for attitudes like that, especially given we've had several mass shootings that were incel-related. This guy's far beyond even a sexist pig; he's a depraved individual who I hope will never have any influence in society so long as he holds these attitudes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 08:45 PM |
| 1 | A Group Of Incels From An Incel Discussion Board Decided To Meet Up IRL And Talk About Their Dating Struggles. Here's A Picture Of Everyone Together.Think of Elliot Rodgers; he wasn't an ugly man. He was more attractive than me and other men who manage fine in the dating department. I've said over and over again appearance doesn't play the crucial role so many people here seem to believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 03:06 AM |
| 10 | Women are the biggest enforcers of "toxic masculinity".There are many things I agree with feminists on, but my main point of disagreement is that it isn't just men who enforce gender roles. Women do so as well, to the same degree and sometimes even more. I've heard a lot more slut shaming and body shaming from women than I have from men. And being an emotionally sensitive person, I've been told to man up more often from women. In terms of raw numbers of sexual partners, the most successful men I've seen are losers and lowlifes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 03:05 AM |
| 9 | Do you think the average of 5 lifetime partners is accurate or outdated?Sex is one of those things people lie the most about. I suspect the number's skewed between the extremes of people who have 0-1 partners and those who have dozens. Pure speculation on my part, but I suspect the median's around 6-10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 12:03 AM |
| 2 | Careers are a good investment, men aren't.You must be working different jobs than I do, because where I work, they can absolutely fire you for no reason, and it can take a long time to find another. I once spent 2 years searching and these were for part-time, minimum wage, crappy jobs, not lucrative careers. No severance package, no warning, and no practical way to sue them for damages. Sadly, an evil man can do far more evil than a good man can do good. A good man, in most cases, can impact a couple women's lives for the better. An evi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 09:53 PM |
| 1 | How do I capitalize off of my white male privilege?It exists to an extent, but what the term tends to do is decrease sympathy for poor whites. "You have everything handed to you and you still fail? How pathetic can you be?" I've mentioned the working class before and a common response is to be called a racist. On average, I'd say yes, it's harder for minorities than white individuals. Average, though, doesn't mean in every possible case and circumstance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy isn’t real, y’all are just insufferable.I wouldn't agree with this. Wealthy and powerful men have little trouble finding partners and the bad-boy appeal is real, especially among younger women. Even in the modern world, hypergamy is far from dead. What I don't agree with is the rambling about: "Women only want Chad; average men don't have a chance!" Most people, men and women, do eventually find a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:16 PM |
| 4 | An example of a man not understanding (female) friendships.Though when these friendships fall apart, I've always been amazed at just how vicious it can get. One example that comes to mind is the women mocking her friend over being a rape survivor, even laughing about it. Not the only time I've heard it, either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Is the dating game easier in a small town or big city?Depends on who you are. I live in a small town, which severely restricts my option. You're a lot more likely to find partners through mutual friends and social gatherings, which tends to be formed in childhood. If you miss that window, it's going to be a lot harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 06:10 PM |
| 2 | What happens to men who struggle in dating?The number of men for whom being alone appears to be a permanent condition is pretty small. Most fall into the category of: sometimes they have a partner, sometimes they don't. They may or may not have lost their virginity in high school, but have by their early-to-mid 20s. But for the sexual underclass, there may not be a good answer. I wouldn't put this group at more than 5%, the definition being men who are still virgins in their late 20-30s, and beyond. It's not even appearance most of the t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 06:54 PM |
| 3 | My argument against the Virgin's Handbook (from r/SavingSexForMarriage)I don't see that happening, not when the age of marriage is close to 30. Even in older generations, there was a lot more pre-martial sex than most were willing to admit to. What I do feel is that having sex isn't a decision to be made lightly. It should be taken seriously: not waiting until marriage, but something serious. I'm aware it makes me an out of touch old fossil in the modern world, but I've seen my share of promiscuous people. I wouldn't say they're particularly happy. Something like 9… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 03:08 PM |
| 41 | PPD: When did you lose your Virginity?I'm 32 and haven't. Being on the spectrum, social skills have always been very hard for me, let alone the sort of subtleties dating involves. Hard to meet new people when I get older, and what I want is a loving relationship; sex on its own seems hollow to me. Perhaps I'm old-fashioned in this regard, but I think it should mean something. I'm not one to say "no sex before marriage", but I don't think it's a decision to be made lightly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 04:22 AM |
| 1 | How common is this opinion in the male population?I'd love cuddling with my girlfriend if I was in a relationship. I've always been a hugging person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/21 01:30 PM |
| 9 | My thoughts on gender differences in dating and sexIt may not be a need in the absolute, literal sense, but life is a lot more difficult without it. If you're a man or woman who's never had any success in that regard, however much you find fulfillment elsewhere, there are going to be times it gets to you. I'd also bet most of the people who state that aren't in that position. The reason I state that social skills are such a necessity is, being on the autism spectrum, I notice the lack of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:32 PM |
| 45 | My thoughts on gender differences in dating and sexBeing unattractive is a handicap. Being socially awkward is a death sentence, speaking as someone who struggles a lot with social interaction. Given how many ugly men I've seen manage just fine in terms of finding partners. The Red Pill has a certain appeal: "this is all you have to do to have women fall at your feet!" If you're unsuccessful, it's easy to see this as an answer. Sad as this is, I think there are a few people who will never find a partner, no matter what they try. A "sexual underc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 11:13 AM |
| 1 | Can Average Men Date and Have Sex Just Like Average Women?I've seen genuinely ugly men, not just average men, manage fine in the dating department. Social calibration's a much bigger factor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 09:56 PM |
| -2 | Dating sucks for everyoneWell, it's nothing I didn't see coming. Not even the first of my posts where it happened. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 09:13 AM |
| 3 | Dating sucks for everyoneWell, that's what every women I've ever known has told me. When I ask why, the answer is generally: "Because they're supposed to." Often when a guy didn't notice all the hints they were blaring and I wondered why they didn't ask him out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 07:59 PM |
| 8 | What's something the opposite gender gets away with?Women are more likely to get away with violence. I've heard many times that women aren't taken seriously, and there's some truth in it, but that also applies when they're violent. If she assaults someone, a common response is: "He must have had it coming." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 07:36 PM |
| 8 | Women should not be shamed or judged or pressured over who they allow to touch their genitals. Its really simple.Long as they're being honest with their partners about what they're looking for, it's entirely up to them how many or how few partners they want. Same goes for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:49 PM |
| 10 | Follow on from "angry at the truth" post. Do some men virtue signal about "greater good" when its actually just sexual frustration?Lacking intimacy sucks and even if you're a genuinely kind person, there are going to be times it gets to you. Sometimes, there isn't a whole lot you can do about it, either. Men might be on the autism spectrum, dealing with childhood trauma, and it can just be because that's how life turned out, not because they did anything wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 03:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The push for feminism from beta men backfired.Yeah, couldn't possibly be because there are women in my life I care about, my mother and sister prominent among them. I've heard too many stories of abuse and assault to register any shock at this point. But of course, it's just because men were hoping to have an easier time getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Does her history matter? pt.1: Infidelity (tags: n count, body count, sexual past, sexual history, promiscuous, promiscuity)I've also heard the joke of: "Whatever a guy tells you, cut it in half. Whatever a woman tells you, double it." Some people just have an easy time finding partners, while for others, getting a date is the equivalent of the Manhattan Project. Just because you have a bf/gf doesn't mean you'll end up having sex with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Does her history matter? pt.1: Infidelity (tags: n count, body count, sexual past, sexual history, promiscuous, promiscuity)One thing I expect skews the result is, a few percentage of men and women who have dozens of partners over the course of their lifetime. Then at the opposite extreme, you've got those at one or even zero. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 07:05 AM |
| 10 | If average men have such a hard time getting in relationships, why do men cheat far more than women?So if men cheat far more than women, what women are they all cheating with? I've seen different studies indicating women cheat as much, if not more, than men. Sex is one of those things people lie about the most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 03:09 AM |
| 10 | CMV: A lot of women have low standards, men purposely go for the small percentage of women who have high standards.No, you don't have to be 6 feet tall or have a 6 figure income to date women. I've seen genuinely ugly men with nonexistent incomes who manage just fine. Dating's complicated and difficult for both genders. Dating apps tend to be shallow, especially ones like Tinder that are primarily hook-up sites. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 03:34 AM |
| 2 | "Good men" who complain about women passing them up for thugs...The big obstacle when it comes to dating women are social skills, regardless of whether they're decent people or not. If you're socially awkward, especially if you're on the autism spectrum, that's not going to be easy. Just because you don't know genuinely good men who struggle with women doesn't mean they're not around. Whether you're a genuinely good person or a self-proclaimed "Nice Guy", the response to opening up is going to be similar. I'm basing this on some of my own experiences and tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 03:08 AM |
| 17 | Do extremely loyal men exist or are they only acting?Yes, loyal men do exist, plenty of them. We might notice an attractive woman, but acknowledging beauty isn't the equivalent of actually wanting to do anything with them. You state many of the replies are claiming they're lying to look good. Well, how the hell would they know? Not only that, I expect some of them are merely claiming this to be assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:46 PM |
| 41 | What do you think are the worst and best dating platitudes?"You just have to be yourself!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 03:23 PM |
| 3 | Most people on gender based community or pages on social media lacks basic empathy and understandingYer just made an enemy for life! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/21 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Most people on gender based community or pages on social media lacks basic empathy and understandingWell, as we know, men and women are natural enemies. Like Englishmen and Scots. Or Welshmen and Scots. Or Japanese and Scots. Or Scots and other Scots. Damn scots; they ruined Scotland! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/21 12:53 PM |
| 8 | Is it true that waiting to have sex is the better approach compared to having sex too early?Waiting seems like a good idea to me. I'm not one who believes in abstaining from marriage, but I don't consider it a decision to be made lightly, either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 10:43 AM |
| – | Why do guys need sex to feel validated?It isn't just sex. It's the lack of a relationship, the lack of romance and affection, and being told you're an entitled monster if you dare to express your unhappiness about this. In his case, you're probably just going to have to tell him you don't see him that way, if you haven't done so already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 11:01 PM |
| 2 | Women can complain about the dating market all they want and receive support, but men are shamed.When I complained about it years ago, I was told to do the world a favor and kill myself. Until then, I'd never heard the term "incel". It may not be a universal experience, but it's an all-too-common one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 07:26 AM |
| 2 | Do you actually believe in all of that hyper masculine, fuck girls, don’t feel emotions kinda shit? I’m a man too, but all that chest pounding makes me nauseous.Social skills and the ability to read non-verbal cues are key, and I've never managed to read them worth a damn. Even everyday conversation can be challenging for me, let alone the subtleties of the dating world. While I understand the appeal, I don't want anything to do with the RP philosophy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 07:14 AM |
| 3 | Do you actually believe in all of that hyper masculine, fuck girls, don’t feel emotions kinda shit? I’m a man too, but all that chest pounding makes me nauseous.There's a line between developing confidence and defining yourself by how many women you sleep with. I don't think promiscuity leads to long-term happiness, for either men or women. The impression I get from my own visits is, "Just do this, and you'll have women falling at your feet!" Appealing, especially if you're someone who's never been successful with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 06:12 AM |
| 7 | The Question of PreferenceIt would have to be someone who understood about me being on the autism spectrum. That it isn't something I can change, that it isn't: "Just practice, give yourself lots of positive self-talk, and you'll transform into a neurotypical." And you do need to tell me what you need, because I'm unlikely to pick up non-verbal cues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 08:40 AM |
| 2 | "Red Pill" Men: Your problems would not be solved if a woman was willing to have sex with you whenever you wished.I expect when you've been lonely for a long time, even raw sex seems an improvement, though I don't think it'd lead to happiness in the long run. Speaking for myself, I'd rather have a genuine, loving relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:11 AM |
| 13 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"Sometimes, you just can't win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Do Men Do Their Fair Share of Work Around the Home?Funny, my mom's boyfriend is the neat freak. No matter how you clean it, it's never up to his standards. When I'm visiting, I learned it's best just to let him do it and stay out of his way, ignoring all his griping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/21 03:26 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL- What have you tried in a sexual context that you would never do again?Any kind of non-consensual play is an absolute no for me. I've never understood why anyone would be into that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 10:53 AM |
| 20 | Just because a woman gives a man instant sexual gratification, doesn't mean she can't manipulate him.I've always felt people jumping into bed together is a bad idea, whether male or female. I don't think promiscuity leads to people being happy. Without emotional connection, sex is hollow, even if you might enjoy it in that exact moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 12:36 PM |
| 8 | What do sexually unsuccessful people want/expect from others when they air their grievances?I expect for those who have never been in that position, it's hard to understand how painful this can be. Say, if you're in your 30s and you've never had any kind of romantic relationship, those are painful circumstances, and all too often, what you're likely to receive is mockery. It's how the Red Pill gets its appeal: "This is all you have to do and women will fall at your feet!" Absent that, a sympathetic ear, although all too often, the response is going to be closer to: "Do the world a favo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 04:49 AM |
| 3 | Women don't like bad boys. They just like hot boys, and it turns out many of these hot boys can also afford to be bad boys because of their looks.I don't think so; I've seen bad boys who make trolls look attractive and they still manage fine. The bad boy appeal is usually among younger women, and once they get older, most learn through personal experience. I've never seen it have a happy ending. Dismiss it if you like, but social skills play a bigger role than looks do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 01:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men don't actually slut shame in real life. This is entirely a female construct that they direct at men to blame for their internalized guiltLooking back in the comments, it was someone else saying it was internalized misogyny, to which I apologize. If you want an example, one that stays with me is mocking a rape survivor, who was her friend until they had a falling out. I've got plenty more regarding her, who's admittedly an extreme example. Another woman thought my sister was dating her boyfriend, so she promised to kill her, ran her vehicle off the road, and stabbed her twice. If a friend hadn't been there, it could have been a lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 05:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't actually slut shame in real life. This is entirely a female construct that they direct at men to blame for their internalized guiltWhat you're looking for is for me to say men are far, far, far crueler than women could ever hope to be. At least that's the impression I'm getting from you. And that's not something that I agree with. Yes, I'm aware there are men who do this, including sharing nudes. But again, I've seen women who constantly rant about men, including in this very thread. I'm speaking from my own personal experience; perhaps yours has been different. And I'm talking about things more serious than mere gossip. No… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 12:47 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men don't actually slut shame in real life. This is entirely a female construct that they direct at men to blame for their internalized guiltFunny, you say you love men in the midst of a furious rant about how horrible and vicious men are. Stating that men are vicious, not women, claiming it's a level of cruelty women couldn't ever match. Yeah, somehow I doubt your sincerity. I don't consider slut-shaming to be acceptable discourse. I don't excuse it, from anyone, and make clear it isn't something I find acceptable. However, I consider it wrong regardless of who engages in it, men or women. Even when it's feminists doing it to non-fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 06:00 AM |
| 17 | CMV: Men don't actually slut shame in real life. This is entirely a female construct that they direct at men to blame for their internalized guiltFunny how any kind of viciousness women display toward one another is due to the patriarchy and internalized misogyny. Or perhaps it could be that women can be vicious to each other in its absence, just as men can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 03:58 AM |
| 1 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.You have to sell what your customers demand. Even in the bad old days, romance novels were generally written by women. And women play a crucial role in enforcing gender roles, even in deeply patriarchal nations. I've seen far more slut-shaming and body shaming from women than I ever have from men. With outfits, many men aren't even going to notice the difference, let alone care, much to the consternation of our girlfriends who dress up. Among feminists, there's a huge divide between sex positive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 03:16 AM |
| 23 | CMV: Men don't actually slut shame in real life. This is entirely a female construct that they direct at men to blame for their internalized guiltI've seen a lot more slut-shaming from other women than I ever have from men. Not to say I don't see men doing it, but there's a special level of viciousness when women do it to one another. Remember a study on twitter where over half of misogynistic language is spewed by other women. And this is from women I've personally encountered, not random people on the internet. More than once, I've been shocked at some of the things I've heard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 02:36 AM |
| 1 | What cases of "What they say they do VS What they do" do you see in the opposite sex?If I see anyone's dating profile screaming, "I don't want drama!", it's an immediate red flag for me. My experience is, the more someone claims they don't want drama in their life, the more it seems to follow them around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI remember seeing a study where men and women were strapped to lie detectors and under those circumstances, it turned out women had slightly more partners. However, when faced with the possibility of others seeing the answers, they suddenly competed for Miss Chastity. General rule I've heard is: "What a man tells you, cut it in half. What a woman tells you, double it." Given our double standards regarding sex, this doesn't surprise me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/21 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Women do not want sex as much as men do, otherwise we'd overpopulate the world within a generationGiven the women I've personally encountered, I'd say they do have as many fantasies as men, perhaps more. They're less likely to be into casual sex, but with actual relationships, I've heard complaints about their male partners not being interested as often as them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/21 03:44 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The intractable problem of women as reward.I don't think there's a good answer to this. Sometimes, it really doesn't seem fair that worthless dirtbags who spend their lives smoking dope always seem to have partners while you've done your best to be a good person, yet no luck. Social skills are the most vital piece of obtaining girlfriends and many who are bullied struggle in this area. It doesn't disappear when you leave school, either. If it doesn't change by the time you hit your late 20s and into your 30s, people start looking for ans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/21 03:20 PM |
| 1 | How many men and women are capable of finding hot strangers, models, or celebrities sexually attractive?Would I be willing to have sex with her? Yes. Is it what I would want in the long term? No. I've always been on the opinion that sleeping around doesn't lead to happiness, even if momentary pleasure comes from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/21 01:56 AM |
| 25 | is it important for men and women to share political beliefs while dating?Compared to many of my family members, I'm a liberal, but by reddit standards, I'm a conservative. I could date someone with different beliefs, long as she doesn't think I'm a monster for disagreeing. In these times, though, she likely wouldn't want to date me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/21 12:24 PM |
| 0 | Who is to blame for ethots making millions , look in the mirrorWell, nobody's forcing them to buy it. I've got no issue with honest sex workers, whether on OnlyFans or escort sites. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 02:29 PM |
| 7 | Incels deserve our compassion and empathy..I can be sympathetic while still be repulsed by their attitudes. It started as a support group, similar to what ForeverAlone is now, but the angry, misogynistic people took over, so it'll never regain its original meaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 02:23 PM |
| 1 | A lot of you SHOULD be forever aloneI admit to being one of those people, so I can relate. At least to me, though, it doesn't seem like sufficient justification for those sorts of attitudes. It does get to you at times, and for some, there may not be anything that can be done about it, apart from finding other sources of happiness. I'm not sure it's a small minority who don't deserve to be; people here are merely the most vocal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:04 AM |
| 2 | A lot of you SHOULD be forever aloneBeing lonely sucks, even if you've developed other ways to find fulfillment, so I can sympathize. To a degree, at least. That being said, the ranting of how horrible women are (not that some feminists here are any better) gets tiring. Not so much a debate as people screaming at each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:53 AM |
| 2 | Would you rather stay lonely or date somebody who doesn’t necessarily pass all your dealbreakers?My dealbreakers are drug and alcohol abuse; spent a good part of my life around a loved one who became an alcoholic. It doesn't matter how hot a woman is or how good in bed she might be. Nothing is worth dealing with that sort of drama and chaos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/21 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Do men make terrible friends? Why is there a dependency on women fixing their loneliness?There's a difference between an incel and someone who struggles with the opposite sex. I'm well aware of how incels behave. You're describing the incel subculture. I'm describing those who struggle with finding romantic relationships without having those attitudes. Even if you have friends, even if you're a generally happy person, being unsuccessful with women is going to get to you at times. My exact point is that anyone who opens up about struggling to attract women is labeled an incel, even i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 06:22 PM |
| 3 | Should cosmetic surgery be encouraged more for men struggling to meet the physical attractiveness threshold with women?Cosmetic surgery is expensive and thus inaccessible for a lot of people, and even for those who can afford it, it's not a real solution to their difficulties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 04:16 PM |
| 6 | If dating gets easier for men in their 30s why is beta-buxxing for single mothers so common?I still consider that to be a symptom, more than a cause. If you've never had any luck attracting women, it's hard to have motivation not to watch porn. Unless there's a religious prohibition, and even then, it's often broken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 04:29 PM |
| 11 | Have men become too mistrustful of women when it comes to sex?Something to consider: pre-martial sex was a lot more stigmatized by then, and sex is one of those things people frequently lie about. People were never as pure as we think. Second, the average age of marriage was around 20. Given the strong stigma, it was easier to abstain then. Now it's close to 30, and given the changed sexual mores, few are going to be virgins when they're married. Close to 90% of those who make virginity pledges defect, and many of those who don't get married younger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 01:00 AM |
| 1 | How often do you see guys significantly overestimate their attractiveness?I'll admit, I don't see myself as very attractive: 3-4, depending on how much effort I make on that particular day. A couple of online women have rated me higher than that, but it's hard to see, given that my attempts at talking to women irl tend to go poorly. Perhaps just my own issue; idk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/21 03:27 AM |
| 2 | What is it about happy couples on social media that trigger some in the manosphere?These people attacking them just don't want anyone else to be happy. In my case, I can be genuinely happy for them while still remaining a bit jealous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 11:12 PM |
| 8 | Observations on Male socialization vs Female socializationHow it works in fiction is, the kind but awkward young man eventually meets someone wonderful. In real life, not so much. Then there's pick-up artistry, which without excellent social skills, comes across as very creepy. I'm an individual who is often sensitive and emotional, and it isn't a trait I can turn off. I've actually been told to man up more often from women then men. What I too often hear is: "All men care about is sex", which isn't true for the majority. Even for those who might not w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 01:43 AM |
| 1 | "Women take no accountability" is popular in the manosphere. So men, what exactly do you take accountability for in your life?Funny thing: I've known more pro-life women than men, and on my FB feed, they're usually the ones ranting about the evil of abortion. A quote from Alas, a Blog when it was still up: "In pop culture, everyone – or at least, everyone who isn’t a terrible human being – eventually meets someone wonderful and falls in love. But in real life, that’s not how things always work. Some people don’t want romantic love at all. Others want romantic love but will never find it. That’s life." Most will eventua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 04:38 PM |
| 20 | A big contributor to male desperation for sex is a lack of social skills and general lack of emotional intelligence.A lot of it's social skills, speaking as someone who's autistic. Even basic social interaction is hard for me and even following the "rules", I come across as different, which puts people on guard around me. 90% of communication is body language, which is almost impossible for me to read. I've known numerous men who are, to put it bluntly, losers. They don't have a job, spend their lives abusing alcohol and drugs, and most of the time, aren't very good looking. They have no problem finding girlf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/21 05:43 PM |
| 2 | Questions about r/gonewild and other amateur porn postersStill, I expect those who find it gross aren't going to be posting naked/half naked pictures on GoneWild anyway. Everyone's got their own interests. However, I do think you need at least some genuine interest to maintain it; doesn't necessarily make a lot of money, and the downsides are often self-evident. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/21 04:49 PM |
| 104 | Blaming men for all the miseries of women is only causing more issues in society.I will admit, one red flag for me is someone saying all their ex-partners are horrible. Yes, many of us have such stories, but saying not one or two but all your past partners were horrible, selfish narcissists tells me two things. Either you've got really bad taste or you're more of the problem than you're admitting. This goes for men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 02:23 AM |
| 2 | How often do you actually see ridiculous dating standards in real life? How often are they actually followed?All depends on the person. I can think of a 65-year old man who will only accept a woman around my age and she's got to be gorgeous. Apparently there's a co-worker who's interested, but she's too fat for his taste. Having met her once, she didn't look bad to me. Thing is, he can charm people and he wouldn't have much trouble if his standards weren't sky-high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/21 05:31 PM |
| 5 | People who inherently view the opposite sex negatively will always have trouble in relationships.The most successful man I've encountered has an attitude of "fuck them and leave them", abuses meth, has been to prison multiple times, 3 kids he ignores, and often unable to hold down a job. Admittedly, i wouldn't say the relationships are healthy, but he has no trouble finding them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Bullying in boys is not a result of maladaptive development but a result of it being a very succesful sexual strategyI'm not that surprised. If you don't give a damn about hurting others, even taking pleasure in it, you'll go far. His victim is more likely to end up working under him than the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/21 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Despite TRP claiming that most women have violent rape fantasies, in reality it's mostly just victims of childhood sexual abuse that do.There's a difference between fantasy, or role-playing a scenario vs actually having it happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/21 12:00 AM |
| 5 | Hello! A few questions for the men in hereWhen you're in love with someone, it's easy to overlook red flags, and this is true regardless of gender. People do stupid things when it comes to relationships. I've never held the attitudes women are leeches or entitled, or anything similar. Yes, money and looks play a role, but they're not the only factor. What "high value" means can vary enormously. Dating is difficult for everyone, and in men's case, social aptitude plays the biggest factor, since he's got to be the one to make the first mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Traditional gender roles are not "the natural way of things", nor are they particularly "good"Things were a lot harsher then. No, it wasn't a group of happy, submissive wives; being a homemaker doesn't equal submissive in any case. It's very difficult for a single mother to support herself as things currently stand; imagine doing it 200 years ago with no social safety net, most jobs long and requiring great physical strength, and raising children on top of that. You needed a lot of children at the time because they were the ones who supported you in your old age. Some of them were going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 12:11 AM |
| 2 | Saying "life isn't fair" for dating inequality is the same as "life isn't fair" for economic inequalityIt isn't fair, and I say this as a man who is in this exact position. Not everyone was granted the same opportunities, whether economically or for sexual attraction. Problem is, there's no good solution to it. Legalizing prostitution, while something I personally support, would be like placing a band-aid on a gunshot wound. It'll give momentary pleasure, but isn't anything resembling a real relationship. I don't see appearance as a major obstacle, given all the ugly men I've encountered who have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/21 10:41 PM |
| 1 | The belief that women’s lives are much easier is exaggeratedExpect it looks better from the other side, where you don't see the downsides. If you're a man who has yet to get a single date from online apps despite sending hundreds of messages, it's easy to be unsympathetic. Yeah, I have a hard time seeing how becoming a prostitute is a privilege, given how dangerous it is, especially for those walking the streets. A significant number of female homicides are related to sex work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/21 11:37 PM |
| 1 | I don’t see what’s wrong with “ pick me “ girlsI tend to hear this thrown at any woman who says she's not a feminist. It's thrown around enough to where it doesn't even mean anything at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 04:23 AM |
| 10 | [deleted by user]I expect it's a real problem, but I'm also wondering what the definition of extremism is. All too often, I've heard it defined as anything that isn't woke. I've been leaning increasingly democrat over the past year, but still get called a right-wing extremist. Problem is, you've got a group of people with few prospects for economic gain or success when it comes to romance. There are numerous reasons for this, which would take far too long to write, but that's what we're facing right now. When it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/21 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone else noticed a general hostility towards men on the autism spectrum within leftist spaces?Hope I'm allowed to post here. I'm liberal compared to some of my family members, but conservative compared to reddit as a whole. I'm on the autism spectrum and am fully aware of the prejudice that surrounds it. When I was in school, people thought I'd end up being a school shooter, and told me so. Those on the spectrum come across as different, which can be frightening. And since if you're white, especially if you're a white male, you have no real problems, with any mentions of them being the e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/21 12:08 PM |
| 1 | If you don't want her at her worst, you don't deserve her at her best.I've never cared for that line, considering how easily it can be used for justification for treating someone like something you scrape off your shoe. See it posted on social media all the time, though I doubt the quote is authentic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 03:04 AM |
| 72 | Men's unrealistic expectations of female sexuality is the problem, not women's "high standards" of physical attractiveness and the 80/20 rule.I'd say men are more willing to have casual sex, but in an actual relationship, I've heard numerous complaints from women saying he's not willing to have sex often enough. Plus, a mere fling is really empty in the long run. As I've said many times, social awkwardness is the true death sentence for men. All talk of equality aside, he's got to make the first move, from dating, to kissing, to sex. There are people I could think of who look like the worst stereotype of a neckbeard who manage just fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 11:54 AM |
| 4 | What happens to a man who has not has a relationship/sex by age 30.I wouldn't say it's impossible, but beyond a certain age, it does get more difficult. I would disagree with him that it holds back your developments because for those who are virgins in their late 20s and beyond, there often is an issue. If it's not for religious reasons, there's often a history of abuse, trauma, bullying; autism plays a role as well, given how crucial nonverbal communication is for romance. Since Elliot Rodgers' rampage, it's become a sign of danger. Virgins have been mocked fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Unpopular opinion: men don’t have it harder than women in the heterosexual dating worldSent you a message with a few details if you're interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Unpopular opinion: men don’t have it harder than women in the heterosexual dating worldSpeaking through personal experience here. A few years ago, I was depressed about being single and was wondering what was wrong with me. I was told to kill myself, that I was an entitled, misogynistic monster, and even worse comments like: "Aw, did your mommy beat you?" I didn't even know what an incel was at the time. Nor am I the only one. Scott Aaronson had half the internet calling him a horrible monster when he opened up about his past suicidal depression. And he was and remains a feminist.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 03:05 AM |
| 11 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitSure, if she doesn't sleep with you immediately, toss her aside; great attitude to have. Having things in common, making each other happy in each others' presence, none of this matters unless she puts out on the first date. Because: "Alpha fucks, beta bucks", after all; yeesh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 08:44 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?They're not attractive physically, either, like I mentioned. I'll never win any modeling contests, but I take better care of myself than they do. It's what I mean; they're not even good-looking on top of being all-around worthless human beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 07:09 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?The ones I'm thinking of, yes, they are. They're family, so I'm obviously not going to rate them, but I've seen others who would be a 7 or 8 with these kind of losers, taken advantage of the entire time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Unpopular opinion: men don’t have it harder than women in the heterosexual dating worldIt's more difficult for men in a different way. If you're someone who struggles with social interaction and confidence, the chances of you finding a relationship are low. And if you dare open up about your unhappiness due to these circumstances, the response is likely to be on the lines of: "Do the world a favor and kill yourself, incel!" I have noticed that women seem to have a love/hate relationship when it comes to male attention. Yes, it can be annoying, even dangerous under certain circumst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 04:31 PM |
| 5 | I'm lgbt but I have done deep dives in both pills: debate is nice but what is your solution?I don't think there is a solution, at least not a good one. You're not going to reimplement the stigma of single parenthood and I wouldn't want to go back to the days where teenage mothers were locked in homes anyway. One thing I would add is to have 50-50 custody be the default, unless there's a damned good reason not to, such as cases of child/spousal abuse. (Anger over your partner cheating doesn't count) Usually, despite broad bipartisan support, such laws are struck down thanks to the advoc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 04:06 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?Well, the one I'm thinking of in particular can dish out just as much; the relationships are just as toxic on her end. She started getting in trouble in grade school, so the: "women must be empathetic and caring" didn't seem to be effective. Hopefully, she'll find someone better one day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 03:52 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?Why women are attracted to worthless losers, thinking of a couple family members who basically choose their partners from the parole board. When it comes to men who are handsome, confident, successful in their jobs and social lives, who have plenty going for them, that's easy to understand. I hear lots of rants about how women are only interested in "Chads", but the people I'm thinking of are about the furthest thing from them. They have no job, spend their time drinking and doing drugs, have ki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 02:58 PM |
| 1 | What impact do you think sex robots will have on the dating market?For the foreseeable future, they're likely to be both expensive and lacking actual appearances similar to women. However, let's fast forward a few decades to where sex robots appear and feel human. (though they're likely to still cost at least several thousand dollars) I would expect a huge movement to make such robots illegal, citing that it encourages immorality or that sex robots teach men that rape is acceptable. Perhaps a couple high-profile rape cases where a defense attorney looking to ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 12:37 AM |
| 2 | What is “dating equality?”I don't see any good answers to this one. Sometimes, life just sucks and there's not much you can do to change it. We all do everything we can with what life gave us and sometimes this leads to shitty outcomes, for men and women. Many poor people will never get out of poverty, no matter how much effort they put into self-improvement. A quote from Michael Crichton: "There is no question that men feel under attack, and psychologically beaten down. All sorts of horrible qualities are attributed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone shifted their views since coming here?Funny thing, I first encountered the term when mentioning being lonely years ago and unsure how to change that. The general sentiment was: "Do the world a favor and kill yourself." Thanks to being here, I think misogyny is a much bigger problem than I once considered it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 12:06 AM |
| 3 | Has anyone shifted their views since coming here?I'll admit, I've become more blue pill since participating here. Hearing: "Women only want to fuck Chad!" gets extremely tiring. Even so, I do think certain individuals delight in making lonely men even more miserable, calling them entitled misogynists whether they behave in that fashion or not. Learned this from personal experience. I just tell myself to support women and have empathy for them regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone shifted their views since coming here?I grew up around educated parents, but work in low-income jobs, meaning it's very difficult for me to relate. I know nothing about vehicles, and couldn't care less about popular culture. I make the effort, but beyond the occasional hello, it doesn't really get anywhere. I'm mostly self-educated, doing a lot of reading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 04:08 AM |
| 24 | Has anyone shifted their views since coming here?I live in an area that's pretty poor, with limited opportunity. The classmates I had who have done well did so because they moved out. Got my first two years, but there was no money for a bachelor's degree. Sadly, even that doesn't guarantee you a good job anymore. What I've noticed is the attitude of: "It's easy for me, it will be for you if you just make a genuine effort." I'd say most people feel this way, because when something comes naturally, it's hard to understand how others could strugg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 01:53 AM |
| 8 | Has anyone shifted their views since coming here?I've seen that "Saturday Night Live" skit. It's funny, but there is some truth in it. There is a limit to what you can get away with, but someone who's attractive will be able to push boundaries more. The reason I say social awkwardness is the biggest obstacle is because I'm on the autism spectrum. I have first-hand experience of how difficult it makes even casual conversation, let alone maneuvering through the subtle signals, hints, and cues that even neurotypicals often miss. I'd put the econo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 01:50 AM |
| 5 | Has anyone shifted their views since coming here?I'm aware it sucks, but I see no reason for the rants of: "She only wants to fuck Chad! Women need to put out on the first date! Alpha fucks, beta bucks! And so forth." I'm reminded of a blog post I read stating: "I'm happily married with kids, but I have friends who aren't and probably never will be, who fit the incel description even if they aren't part of the subculture." It's not fun, especially with so much of our happiness revolving around social connections. https://wearenotsaved.com/2018… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 01:34 AM |
| 6 | Skip women who don’t have sex on the first date.Right, because the only thing that matters in a relationship is sex, which better start right away, or piss off. It's not like romance, affection, mutual support, kindness, or companionship matter at all. (Yes, I'm being sarcastic) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 01:20 AM |
| 5 | “He’s not emotionally available”. But is she?I've learned more and more it's best to keep my mouth shut about things, even around family. About a year ago, I had an female online friend I reconnected with decide: "You're a negative influence, so I don't want to talk to you anymore." Used to be very open about my difficulties, but it was alienating for both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 01:03 AM |
| 4 | You have been made Emperor, what do you do?Mostly, I'd just legalize prostitution. It's not going to fix a whole lot in the dating realm or the inherent dangers of sex work, but it would at least give them more protection. Sex workers often don't go to the police because it's illegal, and they don't want to go to jail. However, giving anyone that sort of power would lead to a disaster. Give the kindest person in the world absolute authority, in a year, he'll be a monster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 05:29 AM |
| 0 | What's with PPD's obsession with sex, and not the other wonderful parts in a relationship?Sadly, whether you behave like a prick who only cares about a hole to stick it inside, or a lonely man who's looking for love, the response tends to be the same. Experiencing such viciousness can make you bitter. For me, while I'm not one to say "no sex before marriage", I don't think it's a step to be made lightly. Funny thing, I've got more romantic fantasies than sexual ones. Sex is nice to have, but without some kind of emotional attachment, it's hollow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/21 09:32 PM |
| 2 | Why do dating coaches and PUA teachers get so much hate when they produce resultsBecause too many of them behave like disgusting assholes, seeing women as little more than a hole to stick it inside. Supposedly Roose has had some kind of religious awakening, but I'm a bit skeptical. Plus, many are frauds only interested in making money. And if there's some kind of void in your life, having meaningless sex isn't a magic cure for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/21 09:28 PM |
| 3 | So is it good or bad to share your woman?If you're in that kind of relationship, I wish you the best. However, it's not something that appeals to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 09:09 PM |
| 9 | What percentage of men are either creeps or abusive?Most men are not, but one evil man can hurt a lot of women. Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein had dozens of women come out of the woodwork, and those are only the ones who came forward. Wouldn't be surprised if some opted against it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 08:20 PM |
| 3 | Why aren't the Red Pill guys happier about the modern world?I don't think casual sex makes people happy in the long run. Sure, it's fun for a while, and if you're young, it might be all you're looking for. After a while, though, sex without some sort of emotional attachment rings hollow. When it comes to the "good old days", we weren't nearly as well behaved as the older generation would have us believe. It just wasn't talked about as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Are there men who actually PREFER an average woman over a stunning one?I've fallen for more than one woman who wasn't considered conventionally attractive. I had feelings for the smartest girl in school throughout my high school years. She was good-looking, but not one of the stunning girls; she didn't return the feelings, though. Yes, physical attraction matters, but it's not the most important trait. Loyalty, kindness, intelligence are all more vital to me, though I can only speak for myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/21 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Cound there be a movement of sorts that contains the practical and common sense parts of the manosphere without the poisonous gender bashing (of women and men in different ways) and reductionism?Based on a lot of the comments here, I can't claim to be optimistic. I have many disagreements with the men's rights movement, but they at least mention issues beyond; "women only sleep with studs", like divorce, and the double standard surrounding female-on-male abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/21 03:37 AM |
| – | Porn use is a symptom, not a cause, of male sexlessnessIf this came from a religious site, it'd be saying masturbation is a sin against God. What I'm saying is that porn use isn't the reason for fewer men having sex. It's a symptom of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 09:31 PM |
| 3 | Porn use is a symptom, not a cause, of male sexlessnessTends to be true in my experience. I've looked through romance novels and more than a few times, my conclusion was that the man's a predator. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 06:24 PM |
| 5 | Porn use is a symptom, not a cause, of male sexlessnessI said it was a symptom of increased sexlessness of young men, more than a cause. Most men and women watch porn at least occasionally, but if you're someone who's had little success over a long period and it seems hopeless, easier to use porn. It's a temporary high, but can still feel better than nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 06:20 PM |
| 20 | Hypergamy, female subjugation & male sexlesness.Yeah, they controlled female sexuality; they also put limits on male sexuality. Sure, if you were wealthy, you could get around them, but most men weren't. It's why you had things like shotgun weddings. By God, he's going to take responsibility for his actions. When it came to arranged marriages, the groom often didn't have a say in it, either; this was arranged by their families. Even circumcision started as a way to stop boys from masturbating, back when it was blamed for every social patholog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 10:53 AM |
| 3 | What to do about low status/unattractive men? Has our society done enough to supplement them with alternatives?Sadly, I don't think there's a lot you can do. Even if you legalize sex work, allowing them to see prostitutes with no repercussions, it wouldn't make much difference. For one, many low status men don't have a lot of money to spare. Second, it'd be like putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound. Sex is only a component of it. There's love and affection, which men want as well. The sexual underclass (I define this as an individual whom is unlikely to ever have a sexual relationship) is small, but it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 12:02 AM |
| 5 | The bad-boy appealOne of my former co-workers comes to mind: she thought a gang member who made his money dealing drugs would be a responsible. And she knew from the beginning of the relationship what he was. Might sound a bit harsh, but it was hard to have a lot of sympathy, although I have it for the kid who has to grow up without a father. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 02:28 AM |
| 2 | The bad-boy appealDon't forget to commit some felonies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 02:13 AM |
| 2 | men of PPD: would you marry an unattractive woman who has potential to get prettier?I'm not going to say appearance doesn't matter at all, but it's not my primary concern. I look more for kindness, empathy, someone who's supportive, and intelligence is a good turn-on too. I've fallen for multiple women who aren't considered conventionally attractive. To answer your question, it would depend on how well we click. The deal-breaker for me is drug and alcohol abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 01:30 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most debate on manosphere subs is just lonely dudes trying to "out-alpha" each other with their philosophiesDepends on what part of the manosphere you're talking about. I lurk on the men's rights forum from time to time. There's a fair amount I disagree with them on, but they at least mention actual issues beyond "Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks", or whatever the term is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 06:07 PM |
| 7 | For men who complain about AWALT, and the CC, why don’t you just date a religious girl?You seem to have a skewed perspective when it comes to religious women. I've known my share and they are NOT submissive, weak, quiet, or anything like that. In fact, they're sometimes more willing to speak up about things they feel strongly about, including with their husbands/boyfriends. Very few are virgins when getting married, being that the average age of marriage is pushing 30. Something like 90% of those who make virginity pledges defect and many of those who don't get married at younger … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 05:58 PM |
| 0 | At what age is it “too late” for a man to get into his first relationship, experience his first kiss, and lose his virginity?Or perhaps looks aren't the be all and end all of relationships, contrary to what I often hear in this thread. Some of these guys are even sleeping with multiple women, often the aimless felons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 05:36 AM |
| 2 | At what age is it “too late” for a man to get into his first relationship, experience his first kiss, and lose his virginity?I'm speaking as somebody who is on the spectrum, so I know firsthand. For women, the bigger danger is not reading warning signs that a person expressing interest is dangerous, so they're more vulnerable than neurotypical women. Social skills matter a lot more than looks. I have a co-worker who weighs at least 400 pounds and he manages fine with women. I've seen numerous ugly guys attract women, including losers who do nothing with their lives. But there's no getting around that social awkwardnes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 05:18 AM |
| 3 | At what age is it “too late” for a man to get into his first relationship, experience his first kiss, and lose his virginity?It's not impossible, but it does get more difficult as you get older. If you're 19-20, being a virgin isn't going to be a barrier. If you're 30, it's a different story. After 25, it really starts to get difficult. It's not some conspiracy but after 25, people are moving on to their jobs, long-term relationships, starting families. If you don't have any experience at that point, it's very hard to start from scratch. People who are older virgins tend to be socially awkward, which is the big killer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 04:23 AM |
| 2 | Are dick pics as common as people think they are?Almost every guy knows this isn't something women find attractive, save for established partners. They're doing it to be assholes, because they know it grosses women out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/21 12:31 PM |
| 5 | Women are the biggest body shamers of womenThis would fit my experience. Most of the slut-shaming I've heard has been from other women, though men participate in it as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Why don't "Nice Guys" know any good people in relationships?I think it's more accurate to say socially awkward men finish last. You've got to make the first move most of the time, from dating to sex, and if social interaction is difficult, it's very hard to have a lot of success with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/21 05:33 AM |
| 4 | Lessons from Heard & DeppIt's far from perfect, but there are resources. Domestic violence shelters, mandatory arrest policies, awareness campaigns, PSAs, billions in public and private funding. However, if you're male in that situation, none of that exists for you. According to policy in the United States, based off the Duluth Model, men are the abusers while women are the victims. You call the cops, you stand a better chance of being arrested as the abuser, while "predominant aggressor policies" state to arrest the bi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 08:34 AM |
| 5 | Lessons from Heard & DeppThe lesson is, no matter what evidence of abuse you have, the world's not going to give a rat's ass. If someone rich and famous can be destroyed, ordinary people are screwed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 07:10 AM |
| 12 | Female Privilege Exists?I'm not so much concerned about dating as, for example, men abused by their female partners having nowhere to go. If they call the cops, they're more likely to get arrested than her, and the frequent response is: "What did you do to deserve it?" Those who said something about this faced long hate campaigns, Erin Pizzey being a prominent example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 03:21 AM |
| 3 | Even if more people could be in relationships instead of being single, it could only fix so muchI agree with part of this. I don't think sleeping around really leads to happiness in the long run. Sure, it's fun in the short term and if you're young, it might be all you're looking for. Reason I'm focusing on sex here is, it's more discussed than actual romance. At the same time, having no luck in finding a relationship does get to you, even if you otherwise have a social circle. Being lonely sucks, especially when the response often resembles: "You need to love yourself first and have joy a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 02:46 PM |
| 2 | Men and women do not get each other's problemsAs I said, I don't think that's true. I've seen genuinely ugly men, including one who weighs over 400 pounds, manage fine when it comes to relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 04:42 AM |
| 1 | Aba & Preach says guys should ask out 520 girls each yearWell, with my calculations each time, I'm about twice as likely to end up talking to the cops than having the woman say yes. You might be able to do this if you both live in a city and have an active social life, which doesn't apply to everybody. It's difficult not to be nervous for a lot of men. Plus, it's quite possible to have conversations with women without any specific intention to ask them out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 02:36 AM |
| 17 | Why aren’t men fighting for their rights the same way other groups (who’ve claimed inequality/discrimination) have?Plenty of people are aware of these problems, men and women. They've become more aware than they were 20 years ago. However, a lot of men have this feeling of: "Yeah, it sucks, but what can we do about it?" Plus, we have nothing but contempt for men who can't handle their problems. Another issue is, when these issues are brought up, it's drowned out by screams that women need support. For all the hatred of the "Damsel in Distress" in fiction, we're happy to engage in it in real life. "The realit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 08:39 PM |
| 5 | Female Hypergamy is the most taboo phenomenon in American society, despite being empirically provenI've read numerous articles talking about how broke men are hurting women's marriage prospects. When the economy crashed in 2007-2008, men were around 80% of the job losses, meaning it was sometimes called the "mancession." Women get judged more on appearance, but men face the same thing when it comes to income and education. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menI don't tell people anymore, at least those I encounter in the real world. Maybe it sounds like trapping people, but I often hear "you don't look autistic" or being compared to Rain Man and more recently, Sheldon Cooper. Or I'm considered to be a worthless partner whom no one should go near. I'll have to see what other websites are worth pursuing. Tried Plenty of Fish for a couple months, until I had my account hijacked and got banned; some troll thought it was hilarious to turn my page into a g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menBeen on Eharmony for around a year. Got a few responses out of 200 messages I sent, but of the two where we made plans to meet up, I was stood up and ghosted; no idea why. Tinder doesn't really interest me, because while relationships are found, it's primarily a hookup app. It's easier to find someone if you're female, but it also means you have to filter out the creeps and losers. Less risk if you're male, but you're stuck making the first move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 01:42 AM |
| 74 | Is it really that common for women to be turned off by seeing a man they are in a relationship with crying? Can this one thing destroy relationships?I've been told to man up more often from women than I have from men. Several months ago, I talked with a woman online who opened up about things in her past and what she still struggles with. When I started to do the same, she cut me out of her life, deciding that I was a negative influence. In the book "Self-Made Man", where the author lives a year in the male world, she found that whenever she brought up her feelings, it was an immediate turn off for whoever she was seeing. It proved to be a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menI wasn't diagnosed until I was 16, so the help and support kids get now wasn't available for me. Even when I mentioned it, though, it was seen as additional evidence that I was a freak and should be avoided at all costs. The incident I mentioned wasn't an autistic woman; she was neurotypical, as were everyone who's responded to me that way, to the best of my knowledge. The autistic woman didn't freak on me, just withdrew, though I never flirted with her. Apart of that, I've read a few articles a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menThe one I encountered in person. . . she had a lot of emotional issues from past trauma, so I can understand that. A guy who was on the spectrum I tried to be friends with and couldn't, because he couldn't tolerate me disagreeing with him politically. Even when I tried to keep it on topics of mutual interest, he wouldn't allow me. To give one example, when I was in school, I told a classmate I thought she was beautiful. Probably clumsy, but I was attempting to cheer her up because she was sad. N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 10:36 PM |
| 10 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestAnd just about everybody who commented on it disagreed. I've read the post before. To certain people, if you're a lonely man, you do not deserve compassion or support. You deserve to have salt rubbed in the wound, to be kicked and mocked, and for some, to kill yourself, doing the world a favor. Just saying "Hey, maybe we shouldn't constantly attack those who struggle" is enough to be considered a misogynistic monster. After all, it's a group we're already inclined to hate, and it's even better w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menExperience. I've been treated as dangerous my whole life and the couple autistic women I encountered weren't an exception. Generally, the stories of dating someone on the spectrum was one horror story after another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 10:12 PM |
| 7 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestProblem is, no matter how you phrase the term, confessing that you're sad about women not finding you attractive is going to lead to the same response. When Scott Aaronson opened up about his suicidal depression, he had countless people considering him a monster and sexual predator. He was a feminist, and amazingly, still is. "You're not really nice! You're an entitled, misogynistic piece of shit who thinks women owe you sex!" No matter how the complaint is phrased, whether it's the scenario of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menFew problems with that. One, there are about four times as many autistic men as women, so it's rather lop-sided. Two, just because you share a syndrome doesn't mean you're going to get along. Since women are the spectrum are more vulnerable to predators, they can be even more afraid of autistic men than neurotypicals are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menI did a lot of that when I was younger and eventually found it didn't work. It was called Asperger Syndrome at the time. Lot of depression because it didn't have the same effect for me it did for them. I've more or less managed to learn, but it took until I was nearly 30 to do it. Had to work around not being able to read non-verbal cues, at least to a degree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menIt would have helped to have gotten support, but I wasn't diagnosed until 16. Being in a small area meant no resources or interest in assisting. I've gotten to where I can handle conversation, obvious things to avoid (though mistakes are still frequent, even with family) Relationships, though, are still beyond me. Looks are often seen as the be-all and end-all on this forum, but they aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menIt's been different for me. I've got countless occasions where appearing awkward ended in disaster. I'm often hesitant to enter conversations or say anything, because I know how often what I say has been taken the wrong way. It's why I don't relax much around people, keeping track of every word I say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 12:37 AM |
| 14 | Are attractive guys actually less creepy?There are three ways to avoid being accused of harassment. One: Be Handsome Two: Be Attractive Three: Don't be Unattractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/21 11:38 PM |
| 12 | What has happened to men’s self esteemI'm reminded of something Michael Crichton wrote in one of his articles on this subject. "There is no question that men feel under attack, and psychologically beaten down. All sorts of horrible qualities are attributed to us: we are unemotional, we are brutal, we are violent, we are uncaring. We’re lousy lays. We don’t know how to do it. We don’t know how to find that clit. We don’t know how to satisfy our mates. We’ve been hearing this for more than twenty years. There are young men who have gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 03:43 PM |
| 3 | Why is a woman's lack of sexual experience considered attractive but a men's inexperience considered unnatractive?I wouldn't say it's always considered attractive. Women do get judged for being virgins after a certain age. Just not to the degree men do. While it existed before, the occurrence of this has skyrocketed in the last 10-15. Being an older virgin used to be seen as pathetic and played for comedy in movies like "American Pie" and "40 year old virgin." Ever since Elliot Rodgers, though, it's increasingly been portrayed as dangerous. If you're a 30 year old virgin male, you're a misogynist, entitled,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 02:36 AM |
| 15 | CMV: The woke crowd is doing little to nothing to address the legitimate grievances of men. They can't expect acceptance and support in return.What I've noticed is for many feminists, patriarchy is almost like their version of Satan. I'm sure plenty of them do care about men, but it's seen through the lens of "Patriarchy hurts men too." Unequal custody? Patriarchy. Men in abusive relationships having no help? Patriarchy? Suicide rate? Patriarchy. Men dominating the number of homeless, those struggling with drug addiction, the incarcerated. . . patriarchy. A lack of compassion for struggling men? Patriarchy again. And I could continue. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 02:26 AM |
| 2 | Does the Amber Heard story prove that men will leave good women if they have the opportunity to get with someone hotter and younger?Abusers and narcissists can be charming, at least at first glance. Sure, there might be hints of what lies beneath the surface, but you're willing to ignore them because after all, you're in love. (If there's a history of loneliness, this is even worse) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 06:14 PM |
| 106 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardPeople aren't always in the mood for sex, but if this lasts for a long period of time, it's a problem. Easy to overlook how unwanted men feel being constantly rejected, no matter what they do. It might not be as common, but this happens to women as well; both genders need love and affection, which sex is part of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 10:45 PM |
| 3 | According to RedPill/MGTOW, are healthy long term relationships just not possible?According to their philosophy, the answer seems to be no, but I don't agree with it. Plenty of people manage just fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?The birth rate's been declining for over two hundred years, before women's liberation. What happened is that more kids lived than was previously the case. In past generations, you needed many children because some of them were going to die. Plus, you needed someone to take care of you in your old age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 04:59 PM |
| 102 | Are Misandry and Mysogyny becoming more common?Misandry is seen as more excusable than misogyny. When a woman expresses a low opinion of men due to experiences of rape and/or domestic violence, many see those feelings as understandable. If a man rants about how he can't trust women because he's been abused by girlfriends/wives/family members or destroyed by the court system, the response is more likely to be: "Grow up and stop judging an entire gender because of one person!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 11:55 PM |
| 4 | Do you think that young men under 30 will begin seeing sex workers more often due to "The Stats"?I'm speaking as someone who's on the autism spectrum and it's a much bigger obstacle than appearance, from firsthand experience. I've noticed a lot of people who are good at socializing don't need to think about it; they just are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that young men under 30 will begin seeing sex workers more often due to "The Stats"?I expect the growth of OnlyFans is partially due to this reason. Being socially awkward for men impacts them a lot more than appearance does. All talks of equality aside, men are expected to be the one to make the first move, whether it's asking someone out, initiating a kiss, or sex, or anything intimate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 10:18 PM |
| 4 | Q4All: When it comes to casual sex, why does it seem like people are living in two different worlds?I've found social skills make an even bigger difference than appearance, speaking as someone who has enormous difficulty with them. Generally, those who are good with women don't have to think much about it; they just are. However, I don't think casual sex really leads to happiness in the long run. Sure, it'd be fun for a while, especially if you're 18-19 and on top of the world, but it's hollow without any genuine emotion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 04:05 AM |
| 4 | Do most men really prefer younger women to women in their age range?I'm 31 and my age range is around 20-40. With 18-19 year olds, I'd feel like too much of a cradle-robber to be too comfortable dating them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 02:34 AM |
| 1 | What kinds of people are you most attracted to?When I was in high school, I had a huge crush on the smartest girl in school, one that lasted until over a year after I left. She wasn't stunning physically, but not bad looking, and an excellent mind. Sadly, those feelings went unrequited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 12:00 PM |
| 1 | What kinds of people are you most attracted to?Maybe we should date then lol. I'm pretty close to the second one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 11:58 AM |
| 18 | this saddens meThat's just your privilege backfiring on you /s | /r/AntiFeminists | 24/01/21 05:02 AM |
| 27 | Feminist hypocrisyYou don't even have to be anti-feminist. All you have to do is express sadness about women not finding you attractive (Like Scott Aaronson, for instance) | /r/AntiFeminists | 01/01/21 10:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV : High body count partners aren’t good for Long Term Relationships.My own feelings are that promiscuity really doesn't lead to happiness in the long term and this applies to both men and women. I've known a few and I wouldn't say they're very happy with their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/20 08:49 AM |
| 4 | Ya, women don't watch porn at all. This might just be a small meme but when memes are made on women they call it sexist, what is this then?I'm pretty sure if they took porn off the internet, there'd only be one website left, and it'd be called: "Bring back the porn!" | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/12/20 07:14 AM |
| 3 | You see I get what they're going for, and yes it is a good message, but if the rules were reversed, would you be saying, "Can we please urge women to not sexually assault men?" Tell me that, r/feminismProblem is, the kind of man who will rape someone knows damn well what he's doing. He knows she's not consenting, that it's wrong, and doesn't give a shit. Hell, it's what they get off on, the power. There are monsters in the world, however much we wish otherwise. | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/20 02:04 AM |
| 6 | 🙄 "boo-fuckin-hoo, some guy hurt me 2 years ago, let's blame all of them"Wonder how many of them enjoyed "Fifty Shades of Grey?" | /r/AntiFeminists | 03/12/20 04:23 PM |
| 5 | Autistic Man Exonerated After Woman Admits She Falsely Accused Him Of Sexual AssaultI'm on the autism spectrum; and people wonder I get paranoid at times. Never been falsely accused of rape but had a girl accuse me of harassment in school because I complimented her. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:17 AM |
| 6 | I'm glad that abused men are finally being taken seriously after the Johnny Depp x Amber Heard fiasco.He's more optimistic than me, since I've seen no sign of it. Johnny Depp's been ruined, and it turned out Heard was right. And I still hear the claim men don't open up because of: "Toxic masculinity." | /r/AntiFeminists | 28/11/20 03:04 PM |
| 94 | Shut up GuardianIf you ever wonder why male victims of domestic abuse don't speak out. . . this is it. | /r/AntiFeminists | 23/11/20 03:12 PM |
| -3 | Lets ignore the fabricated "1 in 6 are raped" lie for a second, is FDS going to pull up black crime stats next and say "black people can't be trusted" next 🤔 Jesus fucking Christ 🤦😄😄 extreme bigotry and sexism at FDS.Then how many women have been raped/sexually assaulted? I've known a fair number. | /r/AntiFeminists | 23/11/20 08:36 AM |
| 3 | Perfectly SaidThey're both horrible things to endure. Unfortunately, people and especially feminists tend to dismiss the harm it causes. A Time magazine article argued that falsely accused men can "gain from the experience." In many cases, even family turns against the falsely accused. If you're rich and powerful, it isn't necessarily fatal, but most people aren't. I've known numerous rape victims and in some cases, it still affects them even now. However, false accusations aren't shrugged off and forgotten, … | /r/AntiFeminists | 22/11/20 07:10 AM |
| 2 | Apparently, saying the Karen meme isn’t sexist is sexist.Speaking of Karens. . . | /r/AntiFeminists | 21/11/20 03:55 AM |
| 2 | What my boyfriend thinks about MRM.I'm someone who used to be a feminist. While I don't agree with everything the MRM says, the biggest thing I believe they're right about is that we don't give a damn about male problems. Let's use domestic violence as an example. Male victims have nowhere to go, are likely to be told they did something to deserve it, and if they call the cops, stand a good chance of being arrested themselves. Yet mentioning this will get you labeled as misogynist. The Duluth Model states: "Men are the abusers, w… | /r/MensRights | 10/11/20 03:01 PM |
| 6 | Hmm yes, I think this is a little obvious, Heard lost sympathy for "standing up" to Johnny DeppThis is precisely the reason male abuse victims don't speak up about what they go through. He's essentially ruined by coming forward; what kind of message does this send to male victims? | /r/MensRights | 05/11/20 07:32 AM |
| 137 | Female psychiatrist loses license after having affair with patient, Several Canadain media outlets portrays her as the victim.Not all that surprising, to be honest. We see similar things when it's a female teacher with an underage student. "He was lucky; it's a beneficial experience for him!" | /r/MensRights | 03/11/20 02:20 PM |
| 3 | My girlfriend is a feminist and sometimes I'm sick and tired of her opinions.I often hear how feminists care about men as well. I expect many are even sincere about it. The problem is, it's very difficult to look at male issues outside of "Patriarchy hurts men too." | /r/MensRights | 16/10/20 09:19 AM |
| 12 | My girlfriend is a feminist and sometimes I'm sick and tired of her opinions.Something I've observed: for many feminists, Patriarchy is like their version of Satan. It's responsible for all the ills of the world. And more feminism is the solution, regardless of what the issue is. Arguing is like telling a devoutly religious individual God doesn't exist. | /r/MensRights | 16/10/20 07:24 AM |
| 14 | Probably Yes—What about assassinations in the past where the targets were men?The original plan was to kidnap Lincoln, not kill him, but that had changed over time. When you're in politics, you attract attention from crazy people, regardless of gender or political affiliation. | /r/MensRights | 11/10/20 03:44 AM |
| 3 | RAINN conflating sexual assault with RAPE (proper definitions and links in comments)According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, there were around 400,000 rapes, with 260,000 victims. If this were accurate, only 1,840 people would go to prison every year for rape. Considerably fewer, when taking into account those serving time for multiple assaults. Around 165,000 are in state prison for sexual offenses, with an additional 16,000 in federal prison. Approximately half are serving time for rape. Lies, damned lies, and statistics. I expect images like this discourage victims fro… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 01:23 PM |
| 2 | Men’s sexual assault isn’t being taken seriously in movies and TV showsI've never once in my life heard anyone around me it's acceptable to rape women. "Boys will be boys" comes up from rough housing, messing around, causing clutter, racing around outside, etc., not sexual assault. I don't doubt there are people who feel that way, but I've never seen anything to indicate it's the norm. Rapists are hated even in prison, let alone in civilized society. It's a big problem, yes, but the idea we have a "rape culture", where this is common, everyday behavior for men in n… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/20 05:36 PM |
| 1 | A girl shares her story of her boyfriend sexually harassing his ex and my commentI saw one of the posts you commented in and how dismissive many people were of the consequences of false rape accusations. Take a look at how many end in suicide or even murder. | /r/MensRights | 15/09/20 07:19 PM |
| 2 | The untested rape kit backlog has an entirely mundane explanation and is not caused by a rape cultureSomething that's overlooked: this harms the accused to. When DNA first became widely used, around 25% of primary suspects were cleared because their DNA didn't match. Without it, they stood a strong chance of going to prison for something they didn't do. Eyewitness testimony isn't nearly as reliable as we once believed. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/20 05:03 AM |
| 6 | Falsity in Rape Accusations - the 2 to 10 Percent Statistic & Grey AreaThere's a big grey area, where alleged rapes cannot be definitely proved or disproved. Some alleged rapes are reported weeks, months, even years after the fact, long after any forensic evidence has disappeared. Rape's a damned hard crime to prove; it's usually he-said,she-said. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 06:41 PM |
| 12 | Men accused of sexual misconduct should not defend themselves, writer says"The verdict is guilty. The sentence is death. Let the trial begin." | /r/MensRights | 28/07/20 08:34 PM |
| 2 | It's so easy to spread misandry under the guise of "helping women." Most of the listed tips are common sense that apply to both men and women, but paints a narrative that men can and will harm women.I agree with a lot of this, but there's a difference between caution and being completely paranoid that every man around you is a budding sexual predator. (Sadly, I often see this attitude expressed) A lot of the comments seem to believe this, though, saying many men are "thirsty", disgusting, and dangerous. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/20 10:32 PM |
| 3 | Men suffer from violent crimes more often than women doReminds me of a recent post on FB ranting: "This is what it's like to be female!", with all the precautions and terror women have to live with every day. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/20 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Gaming YouTuber Syndicate (Tom Cassell) has been accused of rape by two people in less than a day and people are joining a hate bandwagon on Twitter without giving him a chance to defend himself.Reminds me of a post on FB a feminist on my feed shared, accusing someone of sexual assault after saying the police wouldn't do anything. Didn't say anything, since I don't know either person and have no clue whether she's being honest or not. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/20 09:31 PM |
| 3 | I'm confused as to how they would make men wear bras,are there bras for men?The Brosiere | /r/MensRights | 13/06/20 03:40 AM |
| 1 | It makes me so fucking disgusted and sad to see this kind of shit. I have seen HUGE insecurity in my ex boyfriend to the point that he was suicidal at times. But yeah guess he deserved it :)The only people I've seen care about what dress they wear, the way their hair is arranged, etc. are other women. We don't even notice half the time, let alone care, much to our girlfriends' consternation when they do something special. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/20 09:54 AM |
| 5 | I came across this shit. Read it as is and then flip the genders. If it were the guy humping the girl it would be rape. But here the girl just describes it as a “need” because she was hornyI read the comments. Almost all of them described this as rape, which I think is a positive development. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/20 11:19 PM |
| 14 | A male Disney star just came out and said he was raped at 12 by his manager. He's been getting almost no media attention. Imagine the outrage if it was a female Disney star.The #Metoo movement got more attention in a day than Corey Feldman has in three decades. We respond very differently to male victims than we do to female ones. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/20 05:41 PM |
| 12 | Woman blocks and bails on admittedly good man after she snuck through his phone and found out he watches porn. People need to be upfront about deal breakers as it sounds like this guy had no idea this was an issue.Well, if she's trying to find a guy who doesn't watch porn, she's going to have a long search. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/20 02:20 AM |
| 2 | The Frustration of a Cattle RancherThat would be about 90% of humanity, men and women. I don't think I've ever encountered someone who doesn't believe this. Even if they don't believe women are opposed now, they consider women oppressed in the past. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/20 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Women do not envy the male experienceIt might seem easier at first glance, but then you'd have to deal with a whole different set of restrictions and prejudices you don't have any personal experience of. There's a book called: "Self-made man" about a lesbian who lived as a man for a year. At the end of it, she concluded: "Thank God I'm a woman!" Personally, I've seen far more slut-shaming from other women than i ever have from men. (Just my experience; yours might be different) | /r/MensRights | 05/02/20 11:26 PM |
| 9 | What happened to Johnny Depp is a common pattern of abuse experienced by male victims. It is in fact more common than what women experience in reverse.And the scary thing is, Depp was luckier than most. He had extensive evidence proving his innocence. What would have happened if he didn't? All she needed for people to believe was her word. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/20 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Men’s Rights Activists, I need youI'd suggest you read up on what happened with Erin Pizzey. She tried raising awareness of male abuse victims in the 70s, and received a decade long hate campaign. Needed a police escort everywhere she went, her mail was sent to the bomb squad. . . all for having the audacity to say that sometimes, women are abusers too. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/20 11:22 PM |
| 3 | Domestic abuse by women triples in a decade with female attackers carrying out third of assaultsI don't think this is new. I think this is because female-on-male abuse is beginning to be acknowledged. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/20 01:39 PM |
| 5 | Why are Women Mean to Each Other? Because they are Victims of the All-Powerful Patriarchy - The AtlanticEverything wrong with the entire planet is due to Patriarchy; Patriarchy is all-powerful! | /r/MensRights | 20/12/19 02:35 AM |
| 1 | This happens. A lot. It deserves to be front-and-center as a major social issue as much as male-on-female domestic violence. Am I out of touch, or does this kind of thing rarely ever make the news?Generally, no. I see more of it than I did a few years ago, though, and when I was in school, female violence wasn't discussed at all. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/19 10:53 AM |
| 10 | Found this in another subreddit. I left my opinion and am now being downvoted and mocked. I’m a girl.This is honestly rather typical. Even feminists who don't behave like the ones you encountered have a lot of difficulty seeing male problems, outside of: "Patriarchy hurts men too!" It's what makes this issue so difficult to discuss. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/19 07:00 PM |
| 8 | Scottish girl sends messages to herself and falsely accuses a boy with learning disability of stalking/harrassing/sexually assaulting her. This resulted in the boy receiving threats from people who believed her and he became suicidal.As someone who possesses a learning disability, stories like these scare the hell out of me. I'd be amazed if she gets a slap on the wrist, let alone punished. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/19 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Apparently saying that men don't usually kill women for rejecting them sparks a discussion now.It's clear they think of men as wild, dangerous beasts. Have they ever considered that sometimes, men are killed for rejecting women? | /r/MensRights | 02/10/19 12:38 PM |
| 3 | Guy gets sexually assaulted by mother in law. These are some of the many comments not taking him serious.Well, the fact these are downvoted comments is a good sign at least. I do see attitudes slowly changing about sexual assaults committed by women. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/19 09:18 PM |
| 13 | I just can’t make this crap up.... Men commit suicide because they are meanies who like to traumatize people.Reminds me of one I saw that said: "Men accused of abuse who lose their kids and commit suicide did it because they were guilty." | /r/MensRights | 26/09/19 10:58 PM |
| 6 | Had the cops called on me yesterday for sitting in a public park reading a book by myselfThings like this are why I'm so paranoid. It sucks being treated like a predator, but when you're a man, there's little you can do, sadly. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/19 10:25 PM |
| 2 | The stereotype thinking about boys must be stopped.I hear "boys will be boys" in the context of rambunctious behavior, or being silly, running around all over the place. I've never heard it used to justify sexual predators. | /r/MensRights | 25/09/19 11:59 PM |
| 3 | "You're just have internalized misogyny" .....what?When you've been surrounded by this, it's hard to see. And it's difficult to stand up because the prospect of a woman in danger is an excellent way to shut people up. I've said something a few times and angered people, including feminist relatives. It's difficult when it's family. | /r/MensRights | 17/09/19 02:53 AM |
| 11 | "You're just have internalized misogyny" .....what?My God, you've become a traitor to the sisterhood! In all seriousness, though, it is sad to see the level of vitriol directed towards men and boys now. We don't even notice it unless taken to an extreme. | /r/MensRights | 17/09/19 02:43 AM |
| 16 | "You're just have internalized misogyny" .....what?That's the usual response to non-feminist women, let alone women who support the MRM. | /r/MensRights | 17/09/19 02:36 AM |
| 3 | With the new Kavanaugh allegations, we have reached maximum Kafka. The alleged victim does not have to make the allegations herself; someone else can make them for her. Even if she has no memory of the alleged incident, the court of public opinion will prosecute the case anyway.Lavrentiy Beria: "Show me the man, and I'll find you the crime." | /r/MensRights | 16/09/19 10:56 PM |
| 3 | Are Only 2% of Sexual Assault Allegations False?It tends to vary between 2-10% so let's say 6%. However, that's an "At least" number, not an "only" number. Many reports to the police fall into a grey area where they can't be proved or disproved. | /r/MensRights | 15/09/19 10:03 PM |
| 5 | Because abuse against men is funny, right? (Sorry if this got shared or posted here before)Few people take violence by women seriously, including other men. I've heard numerous comments at work joking about women they know who have stabbed their boyfriends. | /r/MensRights | 15/09/19 09:57 PM |
| 2 | I made a post about drag kids and how it is not ok, and Desmond is amazing (drag kid) posted about me. I was also blocked by them. on a side note anyone that tried to debate them was automatically blockedEasy to forget not all homosexuals support their antics. I think this kid's going to be a walking career to a therapist. And if you criticize this, you're a homophobe. | /r/MensRights | 15/09/19 03:06 AM |
| 4 | I made a post about drag kids and how it is not ok, and Desmond is amazing (drag kid) posted about me. I was also blocked by them. on a side note anyone that tried to debate them was automatically blockedGoddamn right they should; I've always found child beauty pageants to be creepy, anyway. Plus, it really doesn't help the LGBT cause to have a child dance around in a gay bar while grown men throw dollar bills at him. Brings certain stereotypes to mind. | /r/MensRights | 15/09/19 02:50 AM |
| 3 | More than 100,000 men have been sexually assaulted in the U.S. military in recent decades. Shame and stigma have kept the vast majority from coming forward to report the attacks.Assault in the military has been a problem as long as we've had militaries. It's only when it happened to women that we gave a damn. Hopefully, these articles are a sign of change. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/19 07:49 PM |
| 5 | Has a girl tell me a story about a time her and her friend “tricked a guy”. I figured you’d guys find this sadistic.I don't think it would matter that much, sadly. The narrative is that female sexual predators are rarer than serial killers, and as difficult a time as female rape survivors have going to the police, it's even more difficult for men. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/19 12:07 AM |
| 5 | Amber Heard Worried She Will Be 'Demonized' In Johnny Depp Lawsuit, Wants Details Kept PrivateIt's your privilege backfiring on you! | /r/MensRights | 11/09/19 05:31 PM |
| 26 | Amber Heard Worried She Will Be 'Demonized' In Johnny Depp Lawsuit, Wants Details Kept PrivateAmazing how despite extensive documentation of her abuse, she's suffered minimal consequences. Her words was all it took for Depp to be demonized nationally. You tell me who's taken seriously and who isn't. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/19 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Our friend tells us why #MenAreTrash is a good thing (hint: it's because you're evil)Let's reverse this for a moment: almost every man in modern fiction is portrayed as an idiot, a man-child who needs the guidance of his wife, who is his superior in every aspect. No matter how she behaves, she's portrayed as in the right. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/19 02:45 PM |
| 3 | This is why I left Tumblr and came here because I can’t deal with this level of blatant stupidity. As someone who is diagnosed psychotic these bitches are delusional.It's made clear over and over they hold all men responsible for the actions of a few. Because, you know, men have no right to complain when they're constantly denounced and demonized. I, on the other hand, hold this radical idea that we hold individuals responsible when they commit a crime rather than an entire group. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/19 07:17 PM |
| 6 | Men have no friends, women most affectedOf course, they turn a problem facing men into a diatribe about how women are the real victims. Worse, they demonize men who are suffering and miserable. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/19 07:13 PM |
| 2 | Trying to explain why feminism is toxic to older women is horrific and uselessI'm not so sure. If anything, feminists in my generation appear to be even more militant than their older counterparts. They helped move the concept of "rape culture" from radical feminism to mainstream feminism. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/19 10:46 AM |
| 1 | You know what I've noticed, thanks to the recent Zoe Quinn stuff? When men point out inequalities between themselves and women, they just have "fragile masculinity".Yeah, it must be "fragile masculinity" when I get tired of being treated as a predator. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/19 07:35 AM |
| 2 | Where are all the men?Makes me wonder what will happen once we return to that. We haven't quite reached it, but around 30% of young men haven't had sex in the past year; can't help but notice the number is far higher for men now when previously, it was about equal. Bonobo society sounds like the situation we've got in a lot of inner cities. | /r/MensRights | 26/08/19 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Sexual Harassment and You.Both hilarious and true. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/19 02:54 PM |
| 2 | I posted this to r/Feminism and I got banned.Even this is understating it because more crimes are reported than was the case 30-40 years ago. Find it ironic that the actual occurrence has plummeted but the fear of rape has only grown. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/19 02:22 AM |
| 5 | I am a NSFW female artist and I am so tired of seeing how other women in these industries treat their male fans!Part of it is just that some men are used to that sort of treatment. We're constantly bombarded with the message that men are stupid, men are worthless, men are violent, which is increasing every year. At least some of them are going to internalize the message. What they count on is that many men who drool over them won't be willing to turn away. Sadly, it's not an incorrect assumption unless it gets truly extreme. And I would expect many of these men are lonely and will grasp onto anything that… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/19 11:50 AM |
| 2 | When did male virgin shaming reach complete hostility?I'd say it really accelerated after Elliot Rodgers went on a rampage. It definitely existed beforehand, but after that, virgins started being seen not as just awkward, dorky types, but as dangerous lunatics. But making fun of shy, socially awkward guys for not being successful has gone on for considerably longer. At least as far back as 2002 with a blog post from "Heartless Bitches International" (Yes, that's the real name) Sadly, a guy who says anything resembling: "I'm a nice guy; why aren't w… | /r/MensRights | 19/08/19 04:28 AM |
| 2 | Women lose 45 days of sleep per year thanks to their partners, welcome to the gender sleep gapThat's just dismissed as biological reality. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/19 04:20 AM |
| 8 | Honest question: If, according to the feminist narrative, there is something inherently "bad" and "toxic" in Male nature, why are they so hostile towards men that voluntarily decide not to engage in any kind of romantic relationship with women, let alone get married?I've noticed the narrative about virgins has changed over the past decade. I still remember when it was more played for laughs, someone shy and awkward who nevertheless finds someone in the end. Now older male virgins are portrayed as dangerous monsters. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/19 10:47 PM |
| 133 | How to make everything about you and play the victim card for no reason.Well, if it's sexism against women, it's sexism feminists are working day and night to reinforce and increase. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/women-arent-always-sentenced-by-the-book-maybe-men-shouldnt-be-either/ | /r/MensRights | 11/08/19 04:39 PM |
| 4 | anyone successfully stayed friends with a feminist?I haven't gotten a response that severe but I stopped bringing it up when I realized I was upsetting her. And my mother isn't nearly as passionate about it as most. Coming out as an MRA may not be a good idea. I'm sorry for saying this but considering what you've said about her, I don't think she'll take it well. We live in very polarized times and it's getting worse by the day. | /r/MensRights | 10/08/19 10:16 AM |
| 5 | anyone successfully stayed friends with a feminist?Just wondering. Most of the really passionate feminists I know have had some bad experiences. Unfortunately, that also blinds them to male issues and even mentioning them can spark enormous rage. Have you ever mentioned male issues to her? Not describing yourself as an MRA but just bringing them up? | /r/MensRights | 10/08/19 10:06 AM |
| 6 | anyone successfully stayed friends with a feminist?It may not be something you want to hear but she might not accept it if she feels that passionately about it. For some feminists, I've observed that it's like a religion. Ultimately, the decision's up to you. In my case, I can't tell anyone I'm on here, even my family. But it's something I believe you should give a lot of thought to, considering how long you've been friends. Did anything happen to her or was she just caught up in the movement? | /r/MensRights | 10/08/19 09:59 AM |
| 5 | anyone successfully stayed friends with a feminist?This may not be an exact comparison but my mother's a feminist. I've learned this is something I've had to keep my mouth shut about because whenever I bring up these issues, it just seems to upset her. How passionate of a feminist is she? | /r/MensRights | 10/08/19 08:54 AM |
| 5 | This is how Feminists treat men when they speak out about being sexually abused:And she claims: "I never bashed or insulted him once". She completely dismissed the pain he endured, claiming female victims suffer more. Little wonder men are so unwilling to talk about the trauma they've endured. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/19 07:24 AM |
| 3 | Men's life expectancy declined in the U.S last year. Only men experienced this decline.That's why nothing's being done about it or that it's barely being talked about. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/19 02:15 AM |
| 21 | Feminism logic in middle schoolThere are women who orgasm during rape. By this very logic, you could argue that she was consenting to it. Erections aren't always voluntary, as any teenage boy who's had one at an inopportune time could tell you. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/19 07:21 PM |
| 563 | Ok, real talk. What if Men Activist showed their private parts to little girls to inflict their views like these Feminist did?God, this is disgusting. Not only have they turned an entire male class celibate, imagine if the genders were reversed. We'd be screaming for his death. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/19 09:32 PM |
| 5 | Pissed off Daughter going to bat for dadThis is why some men are so paranoid in the workplace. You can't flirt, can't make jokes, can't compliment, or you risk being removed from your job. It might sound crazy but with the climate today, a lot of us are left with no better options. Saw you posted this in "legal advice" and they're telling you he deserved it. Bad as it sounds, there isn't much you're going to be able to do for him. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/19 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Men are not "more violent", higher crime rates are not due to biological reason but to socioeconomic differences.Depends on the type of crime. Men are usually the ones committing street crime but most of their victims are other men. Women feel more anxiety about it but men are the ones who have more to fear. Women are more violent inside the house. An equal amount of domestic violence comes at female hands, and the most likely individual to abuse a child is a single mother. And the actions of violent men are much less likely to be seen as violence. The big issue, however, is that women are much more likely… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 05:09 AM |
| 4 | Why are so many men/women rights activists so discriminating against each other?Huh, they removed your post almost immediately; what a surprise. In a perfect world, MRAs and FRAs could work together but that's not the kind of world we live in. On the contrary, they do everything possible to silence those who speak about male problems. It's been made clear for decades they're not interested, aside from sometimes saying: "Patriarchy hurts men too". And they're the ones with institutional power. There are billions of dollars every year spent on violence against women, for exam… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/19 01:22 PM |
| 2 | some feminist accounts are claiming that I made up the death/rape threats I got so I could push a mra agenda.Huh, and they keep claiming that feminism only stands for equality. My views didn't development because I've never spoken to a feminist; it's because I have, | /r/MensRights | 19/07/19 02:54 PM |
| 5 | Female Supremist rant, would love to see comebacks from you lotFew things: men are the extremes of both ends when it comes to IQ. While on average women are slightly smarter than men, most geniuses happen to be male. I could just as easily claim men are superior with that information. Also, if you look at life expectancy by income, it grows as you go down the income ladder. For the top 1%, the life expectancy gap is only 1.5 years. For those at the bottom, it's nearly 7. What does that say? And I see no evidence women handle their emotions better. Most chil… | /r/MensRights | 19/07/19 06:38 AM |
| 17 | White knight police detective helps teacher who had "sexual relationship" with a female student get probation.More common than we might think. Men play a big role in giving women lighter sentences. We feel sympathy for them and their backgrounds in a way we don't for male victims. It isn't just women who maintain this. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/19 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Why men have reason to fear false rape accusationsIt's not a specific source. I was using the average estimate for false rape claims, which tends to hover around 2-10%. Using a number of 100,000 reported rapes (though it's actually a bit lower than that) and using 6% of that. The point I was making are that false allegations are a real problem and there's a legitmate reason for men to fear them. Keep in mind this is an "at least" number, not "only". | /r/MensRights | 16/07/19 12:47 AM |
| 2 | SHUSH! Silence the Patriarchy | Netflix follows Gillette by releasing an ad that explicitly craps on men. Why do these feminist morons ever think this will actually sell their stuff? They must be VERY stupid.Gives you a pretty good idea of how feminists see men. Apparently we're nothing but a bunch of sexist pricks. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/19 02:20 AM |
| 9 | Domestic violence against black men is more common than people thinkThey have even more to fear than white men do. Course, I would say it's not considered to be a big deal when a woman attacks a man regardless of skin color. It's not that women aren't violent. It's that a lot of female violence flies under our collective radar. Skin color doesn't matter; no man deserves to be treated that way. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/19 06:45 AM |
| 2 | FactCheck: Men are more likely to be raped than be falsely accused of rapeMight have something to do with the fact that women are rarely prosecuted for false rape accusations even if they end up being charged. In the United States... if you go by the 6% false accusation number, that's about 6,000 men suffering false rape accusations every year. Let's say the risk is for every man between 15 and 45. Say there's about 60 million men in that category. There's a one in 10,000 chance each year you'll be falsely accused. I know this isn't quite accurate but let's add it up … | /r/MensRights | 04/07/19 04:28 AM |
| 2 | Too rightNot always easy to tell how old someone is. I've seen 14-15 year olds who looked like adult women. Conversely, I've seen women in their 20s who look like high schoolers. Having a Fake ID makes it even harder. | /r/MensRights | 04/07/19 02:47 AM |
| 5 | You’re Not HelpingAccording to Mary Koss, they're "ambivalent about their own sexual desires". Essentially, they wanted it. The same thing was said about juveniles being raped by women in adult prisons. They can occasionally mention male victims, although almost always with the caveat that there are far more female victims. Female perpetrators aren't. I've visited feminist subreddits, even if I don't post on them. Same with feminists I know personally. Only one doesn't believe in "rape culture" and even she has a… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/19 03:38 AM |
| 8 | You’re Not HelpingThen she'd be the exception. I've never encountered a feminist in my life who acknowledge female sexual violence, save for saying: "It's as rare as being struck by lightning". | /r/MensRights | 02/07/19 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Any examples of women hitting men in TV shows/movies?If you want an example of it being taken seriously, there's "Men Don't Tell", a lifetime movie made back in 1993. Course, it was only aired once because portraying the woman as the abuser sparked the wrath of the feminists. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/19 11:39 AM |
| 1 | If a man is accused of rape and denies it by saying “she’s not my type” instead of “I would never rape anyone,” that is how you know you’re dealing with a rapist.And if you deny it by saying: "I'd never rape anyone; that's a disgusting thing to do", that would just be seen as more proof of guilt. #BelieveWomen | /r/MensRights | 30/06/19 10:13 PM |
| 11 | Black men in the US: most disadvantaged group by far?Not only that, but black men are on the receiving end of around 40-50% of false rape accusations. Dangerous enough for any men but especially bad for black men. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/19 04:37 AM |
| 1 | My mother recently told me that is not okay to hit a woman under **ANY** circumstance.That's what I was taught as well. "I don't care if she comes at you with a baseball bat; lay a hand on a woman and you deserve to go to prison!" Unfortunately, there are women who will take full advantage of that restraint to behave as horribly as they want, confident that there will be no consequences. | /r/MensRights | 17/06/19 10:52 AM |
| 3 | Saw this on r/Feminism. Why do they brand all men as rapists?I'd like to think this is parody, but these days, it's difficult to tell. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/19 06:34 PM |
| 1 | "Trudeau announces $1.4B annual Canadian investment in women and girls' health" I am so disappointed in my country. The fact that this guy, who I voted for, can do this, as a big "Fuck you" to men and boys. Not only that, he's clearly doing this for votes.That's oppression too. You know, because women are disproportionately effected by student loan debt. (At least in the United States) That way, no matter how things go, there's a way women are oppressed. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/19 03:00 AM |
| 1 | How do you handle friends and family who disagree with your MRA viewpoints?They don't know. It's not something I can speak about. My mother is a feminist and my father dismisses them as a handful of crazies with no influence. My sister sometimes agrees with me but doesn't pay much attention to world events. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/19 04:00 AM |
| 6 | I was rewatching The Simpsons and I found an episode I think is quite applicable to this sub.According to the writers, it meant to skewer how the media behaved... and they state things have only gotten worse since. And I concur. It shows how we form metaphorical lynch mobs over accusations whether there's evidence or not. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/19 03:58 AM |
| 3 | Is anyone here pissed about tradcon idiots who say that feminism/liberalism hurts women?The pro-life argument is framed in a similar light. Many of them think that women are only getting abortions because their male partners are pressuring them and even threatening them into it. On both sides, men are considered the real problem. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/19 05:40 AM |
| 2 | Misandrist AOC, Liz Warren commiserate over 'Game of Thrones' ending: 'Ugh, this was written by men'One positive thing about Game of Thrones is that it showed women are just as capable of evil as men. Just not something we like thinking about. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/19 09:11 AM |
| 3 | Another idiot who pretends that only men judge women and that women who judge other women don't existMost slut-shaming and body-shaming that I have witnessed is women doing it to one another. This isn't to say men don't participate, but I've seen far more viciousness from women on the topic. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/19 07:28 AM |
| 3 | A feminist meets two men’s rights activists - can we be friends?Don't forget about the lack of outrage over Jezebel's article laughing about how they beat up their boyfriends. "You better not fuck with us, heh-heh." And it was not in the least satirical. | /r/MensRights | 20/05/19 08:17 AM |
| 1 | Deep dive into the weaponization of the 5% false rape allegations statistic, AKA trolling SJWs epic-style with their own citationsSure, long as you give credit. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/19 08:09 PM |
| 27 | Deep dive into the weaponization of the 5% false rape allegations statistic, AKA trolling SJWs epic-style with their own citationsIt's generally assumed to be between 2% and 10%, with the feminists and the media mostly citing the lower figure. "See? False accusations are so rare as to not be worth considering! #BelieveWomen". But those numbers don't tell the whole story. That's how many are PROVEN false. Many rape accusations reported to the police can't be considered decisively true or false. Rape is a very difficult crime to prove, even with there is forensic evidence to back it up. If there isn't, it's nothing but He Sa… | /r/MensRights | 13/05/19 01:42 AM |
| 7 | I found this reposted by some of my female friends on Facebook. A bit of light?Huh, very different than my Facebook friends. They're usually ranting about how men are assholes and how we need to appreciate women more. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/19 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Buzzfeed thinks that getting hit in the balls is "hilarious". Could they be any more anti-male?This is nothing new. Half the submissions for "America's Funniest Home Videos" are some poor bastard getting hit in the nuts. Should just rename it to "Ow, my balls!" | /r/MensRights | 07/05/19 10:26 PM |
| 1 | i think i’m in an abusive relationship, 16m.Everything about that screams an abusive relationship. I know you feel sorry for her and it's not easy to get away, but you don't deserve this kind of treatment. The abuse doesn't stop; it only gets worse over time. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/19 02:44 AM |
| 3 | Anyone have proper advice for this guy?At a minimum, I would say get the hell away from that crazy woman. She cheated on him and accused him of rape when she found out. She could easily do the same thing to him. Yeah, I know it's not easy to turn your back on someone you still have feelings for, but it's going to be worse if you don't. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/19 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Why I got banned from /r/thefairersex. Reddit needs to do more to combat these incredibly toxic communities.This is standard operating procedure for feminist threads. They're interested in silencing debate, not engaging in it, so it's no surprise. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/19 11:04 PM |
| 3 | this is truly sickening. this is rape, not a “month-long affair”No matter how young the boy is, they just can't bring themselves to call it rape; disgusting. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/19 08:23 PM |
| 3 | Taking Men's Rights MainstreamIt's just a couple lines to help establish who the villain is. It's not a vital plot point, though I do occasionally mention men's issues in my fiction. Hopefully, what she did doesn't happen in real life. Even though I'm a millennial, I don't know if I'll see it happen in my lifetime. But even small victories are important. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/19 06:33 AM |
| 1 | Don't let people tell you that you should sacrifice yourself for others because you're a manThey aren't exactly allies either, but some of them can at least recognize we have a problem. Most articles I've read that are taking notice of how boys are falling behind or the removal of due process. Still not much, but considering how the other side is now openly spewing hatred towards men... | /r/MensRights | 03/05/19 03:56 AM |
| 8 | Taking Men's Rights MainstreamThe other issue I can think of is while people are aware of these issues, they don't realize the extent of them. For example, a male domestic violence victim being arrested instead of his abusive partner... they think this is aberration, not policy. Hopefully, we'll be able to enact real change in this country. Thought that occurred to me is a president declaring the MRM a terrorist organization and having its leaders imprisoned; mention it briefly in a book I'm writing. Frankly, I think most of… | /r/MensRights | 03/05/19 03:33 AM |
| 6 | "Married mother-of-three teacher, 34, accused of having a sexual relationship with her 10-year-old student faces rape charges". It's difficult to see how a headline could more sympathetic to some one who raped a 10 year old.I'm a firm believer in equality. And as such, she should receive the exact same sentence as a man would if he committed the same crime. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/19 01:56 AM |
| 14 | Not sure who all will care about this but I wanted to share itNot as crazy as it sounds. A lot of people here used to be feminists, including myself. | /r/MensRights | 30/04/19 08:42 PM |
| 10 | unpopularopinion: Telling men to not be afraid of a false rape accusation because it's statistically unlikely doesn't help anything, because that's not WHY we are really afraid.Hmm... wonder how long it'll be before they delete it. | /r/MensRights | 30/04/19 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Taking a look back: see how feminists reacted when "The Myth of Male Power" was publishedAnd controlling 85% of consumer spending, society caring far more when women are harmed by something, both political parties pandering to you... if us brutal patriarchs are trying to oppress women, we're clearly doing a poor job. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/19 08:45 AM |
| 3 | I'm optimistic, I see things slowly changingI agree that it's changed in a sense. When I was in school, male victims weren't mentioned at all; the entire abuse on abuse victims was a battered woman. However, I don't know how much of it is because of what we've done vs it happening because feminist viciousness is at a point where it's extremely difficult to ignore. It was easy to do when talking about rape and domestic violence. We want to support women who go through that and it's easy to forget male victims. Now we've got mansplaining, m… | /r/MensRights | 21/04/19 12:11 PM |
| 1 | Feminist claims rapists roam freely amongst men. The reality is that rather feminists found the best way to get media's attention is by lying about having been rapedHere's a possible explanation: because rapists are despised even in prison, let alone among honest citizens. Most vigilante killings involve sex crimes. Any hint of misconduct, let alone a rape accusation, will rob a man of all his social support. The most common response I've heard from men are that rapists should be executed, preferably slowly. The other side of that sign isn't necessarily true, either. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/19 06:41 AM |
| 2 | Boyfriends rape accusation finally dismissed...but I think the hardest part is now that it’s overI've been wrongfully accused a couple times myself. Not of something as severe as rape, so it isn't a perfect analogy. Still, the incident I'll focus on was when I ended up accused of harassment because I gave a compliment. Clumsily, perhaps, but I thought she was depressed and I tried to cheer her up. I was threatened with dire consequences; expulsion, even getting the police involved. No one so much as asked me my side of the story. He's going to feel miserable. And don't expect something like… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/19 03:23 AM |
| 80 | Here’s a woman who understands the struggles of a guys daily life that are forced upon us by societyNice to know someone has some understanding.... assuming she's not being sarcastic, at any rate. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/19 03:08 AM |
| 1 | The Simpson's Lampooned men's rightsSome of the most common insults are "neckbeard" "Virgin" "Incel"; really shows the compassion they hold. Even the more well-meaning feminists are often blind to male issues. As for the new ghostbusters and other remakes with female leads... maybe the movies just stink. Not liking a movie that has a female lead doesn't equal sexism. For instance, I'm not impressed with the new Star Wars movies because Rey is far too much of a Mary Sue. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/19 07:36 PM |
| 2 | The Simpson's Lampooned men's rightsClearly, if we're trying to oppress women, we're doing a poor job of it. Shows like this offer a decent explanation as to why men aren't willing to talk about their difficulties. Unless we say something like "I'm so burdened by my masculinity!", those who hold the power don't care. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/19 07:06 PM |
| 1 | My school has advice on how to deal with nice girls (repost as I had to remove a phone number)Even this is a major contrast to when I was in school (graduated high school in 2007). Back then, male victims didn't exist, as far as we were concerned. The entire conversation when it came to abusive relationships were female victims. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/19 01:05 AM |
| 5 | California mom, 41, will avoid jail for having sex with BOTH of her teenage daughters' boyfriends, aged 14 and 15, after plying them with alcohol and cigarsSuppose I should be grateful there's anyone at all calling out this sort of hypocrisy. Were the genders reversed, the world would be screaming for the man's balls to be cut off. Not long ago, we thought this sort of thing for teenage boys was beneficial or at worst neutral. More's coming out that this does have a negative effect on boys, even when it's a woman. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/19 12:45 AM |
| 7 | The Simpson's Lampooned men's rightsWell, that's exactly what they think of MRAs... or anyone who brings up male difficulties, for that matter. After all, we all know men have nothing to complain about and if they do, it's because of Patriarchy. It's been a staple of fiction for decades: women are smarter, women are kinder, women are always in the right, etc. I'd be amazed if the Simpsons didn't tackle it at some point. Personally, I think remakes stink just as a rule; found few exceptions to that rule. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/19 12:42 AM |
| 3 | Is it normal that I'm afraid of talking to women at parties. Not because I'm socially awkward but because I don't want to be a victim of false allegations of sexual harassment.So am I and I've gotten those kinds of responses before. Makes me very cautious about giving out compliments. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/19 02:55 AM |
| 20 | Is it normal that I'm afraid of talking to women at parties. Not because I'm socially awkward but because I don't want to be a victim of false allegations of sexual harassment.I'm nervous about it myself. I've been punched in the face by a woman for telling her she's pretty, let alone trying to ask her out. Considering the climate, it's not far out of the ordinary. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/19 03:08 PM |
| 2 | I wanted to ask a simple question and got this. they completely ignored the abuse story during my profile search and only cared that I was a mra. they also assumed I was a male.Reminds me of a quora response I read. It was a male feminist talking about how men have no understanding of the constant danger women are in. He gave an example where no man stepped forward and admitted he was afraid to walk alone at night, but every woman did. Couple things he didn't consider: men usually refuse to look weak in front of anyone, man or woman. I'm a little nervous, but I wouldn't have stopped. Second is the difference between perception and reality. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/19 11:53 PM |
| 6 | Why Men Die Younger than WomenI also noticed that the gender gap grows as their respective income falls. For the top 1%, women only live around 1.5 years longer than men. For the bottom ten, it's around seven years. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/19 01:13 PM |
| 38 | Women definitely care if you’re circumcised.I was cut; I have no idea what it would be like not to be. There's no standard of comparison for me. I'm not angry about it, but I'm certainly not going to have it done to any of my kids, assuming that happens. And it will be something I'm willing to confront the mother about. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/19 11:46 PM |
| 3 | Trans-Anon discovers male privilege (P.S I'm actually left wing)Not really, no. However, what I've noticed is that conservatives are more willing to acknowledge that we're facing a major issue with men and boys. This is far from universal, with many saying: "They're a bunch of whiny babies who need to grow up" but some realize this is a real problem. Granted, I don't really agree with their solution, which tends to be along the lines of "Return God to the center of your life", but what I see from progressives is often articles like "The unrestrained brutalit… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/19 11:43 PM |
| 11 | As a female ... (men's rights)Here's another: even the more well-meaning feminists are often blind to male issues. At least outside of "Patriarchy hurts men too". Losing access to your children, being a victim of abuse, false accusations, how far behind men are falling, societal indifference... they don't feel like real problems. And even when it's explained and an honest effort is made, male problems often don't register. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/19 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Toxic feminism hurts women tooThat's my point. Men are much more likely to be victims of violence, but women are the more fearful ones. We're bombarded with messages that women are in constant danger. There's also the perception that men can defend themselves in a dangerous situation, which reality often proves false. Based on my conversations, most non-feminists are aware of these issues. The difficulty lies in getting people to speak up about it... and while they might be aware of them, most don't realize the sheer extent. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/19 10:23 PM |
| 3 | Toxic feminism hurts women tooThe thing is that women are in much less danger of being raped than they were 30-40 years ago; that's true of crime overall. Yet the fear of sexual violence and overall female victimization has only grown in that period of time. Much as I'd like to talk about how feminist actions make men suffer, the focus on women gives the public a bigger incentive to give a damn. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/19 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Some Dems are sounding a lot like Kavanaugh defenders in their attacks on Biden accuser Lucy Flores | Even self-flagellating male feminist "Manboobz" (David Futrelle) can see that Leftists & feminists are hypocritical about which men they attack vs defend under #MeToo#MeToo is little more than a political weapon at this point. It is hurting Biden, but it's not getting nearly the kind of attention a Republican would be. The Lieutenant Governor has two sexual assault allegations. While I'm not 100% on his guilt, they're more credible than Kavanaugh's accuser: they can at least give the time and place. But that hasn't gotten 1/10th the attention Kavanaugh did. And when Bill Clinton faced far more serious allegations than Clarence Thomas, feminists did more than… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/19 10:12 PM |
| 1 | A short history of the last 100 yearsI'd have it to where you need to show a little basic knowledge on how government works. Basic questions I'd expect a 13-year-old to know. Examples: What are the three branches of Government? What are the first Ten Amendments to the Constitution called? If the President dies in office or is otherwise unable to assume his duties, who takes over? I am aware, however, that this would be real easy to abuse, as it once was in the era of Jim Crow. Now, however, it'd be aimed more at keeping the opposit… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/19 10:01 PM |
| 30 | Cardi B advocates rape for a man that cheats on her.Oh, they believe it... when it's done by a man. Few people, however, believe that a woman is capable of rape. Cardi B will never suffer any consequences for her actions, sadly. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/19 01:48 AM |
| 83 | Cardi B advocates rape for a man that cheats on her.Says something about our double standard when she's free as a bird and still admired for something that sent Bill Cosby to prison. Suppose I should be glad this is sparking any controversy at all... good God. | /r/MensRights | 31/03/19 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Why Are So Many Female Teachers Sleeping With Students?They've been doing it for a long time; we're only just now starting to notice the problem. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/19 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Joe Biden blames "white mans culture" for domestic violence.He used to be considered the stupidest man in the Senate for a good reason; now he's only providing additional proof why he had the title. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/19 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Meant as a compliment, I think most feminists would be screaming about how toxic this is.I've seen this posted all over Facebook. Many take for granted that women are simply superior: kinder, smarter, gentler, and overall better people. It's not something that's considered remarkable by this point. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/19 11:54 PM |
| 2 | I'm being taught how to not rape in health class and it's pissing me the fuck off.Sounds like not a lot has changed since I was in school. In my health class, the textbook gave an example stating: "Oh, I didn't know that when I forcibly pinned a girl to the bed, ripped her clothes off, ignoring her protests and listening to her cry, that I was raping her!" Didn't think much of it at the time, but Dear God. Oh, and the textbook stated that one out of four college men end up committing rape. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/19 05:58 PM |
| 3 | Is The Pigman (that's my bacony self, for those who don't know) the ONLY left wing MRA blogger out there?You're probably in the minority. I've noticed conservatives are more willing to acknowledge the difficulties men are facing, even if many of them tend to consider the solution along the lines of "Surrender yourself to God". Wish more progressives did care, because male problems affect young, minority men most severely. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/19 02:35 AM |
| 4 | Feminist Jane Caro lumps MRAs in with the Mosque shooter and his ilk. Thousands seem to agree.Sounds like something I added in my book is plausible after all: In the U.S., Men's Rights Groups are declared a terrorist organization by the President. All its leaders are thrown in prison and all websites shut down. Meant to be satirical but it's looking less so by the day. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/19 01:38 PM |
| 1 | so I'm doing a post for my Instagram account and was wondering if you has issues that you as a man have to deal with?For me, it's being treated as a predator. I'm on the autism spectrum, meaning it's even worse for me than it would be for a neurotypical individual. I resent it, but there's nothing I can do about it. I don't dare even smile at a kid for fear of the parent's reaction. When I speak to women, I always think: "Don't frighten her." "Don't creep her out." "Don't scare her". Unless it's someone I know well, and the kinds of reactions I've gotten in the past make me very hesitant to speak. I've been ac… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/19 08:16 PM |
| 8 | Is it okay to allow or coerce little girls to strip naked in front of men at clubs for cash?You know, if they're trying to fight the stereotype that gays are pedophiles, having a ten year old drag queen dancing in gay bars while adults throw dollar bills at him really doesn't help their case. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/19 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Just a simple message 😛 from me (F18)We get told to express our feelings, but it's only on their terms. Inequalities men face are not to be talked about, no matter what. Awareness is spreading, but it's a long way from that to any real change. I don't know how much of it has been because of the work prominent MRAs have done or just because feminists and SJWs have gone so off the rails. Problems men and boys face, along with constant derision seen in the media, is becoming impossible to ignore. We're hearing constantly that when a h… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/19 11:46 PM |
| 5 | A WOMEN-only review court which aims to reduce the number of women sent to prison has been launched.There's something I added in a writing project of mine: that for all intents and purposes, women don't go to jail for anything. They make up less than 3% of total inmates; this was meant as a satirical comment, but much of what I have in the novel is becoming less satirical by the day. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/19 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Just a simple message 😛 from me (F18)There's a reason we don't talk about our feelings: we're mocked and derided when we do so, mostly by feminists. Ask anyone here what the response was when we spoke about the struggles we face: I've been called a "Whiny man-baby", an Incel, a neckbeard who can't get laid, "White male fragility", and those are the mild terms. I'd be more convinced we're working together for a better world if feminists weren't the ones doing everything in their power to silence male victims. The Duluth Model is an … | /r/MensRights | 04/03/19 05:06 PM |
| 5 | the abuse I've received from feminists, for being a female mraNo such thing as female solidarity. They might hate men, but they hate gender traitors more. Welcome to the Patriarchy, gender traitor! I am curious, though: what inspired you to become an MRA? | /r/MensRights | 02/03/19 03:06 PM |
| 27 | Mother carves her preference on sons penisIt's why I was circumcised. It had nothing to do with any health benefits; my parents just thought it looked better. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/19 09:58 AM |
| 1 | posted this and a gender pay gap meme that I will post below, and was told I'm misogynistic and a closeted trans man.Huh... I thought you were merely suffering from internalized misogyny, like all women who aren't feminists. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/19 02:31 PM |
| 1 | As a woman I think feminism is trash and should be done away withI got a similar response from the one I posted a week ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/ar1m4w/men_respect_women_more_than_women_respect_men/ Incel seems to be their favorite insult. I'm amazed they didn't get around to deleting it. I've heard a lot of people here practically brag about being banned from posting on r/feminism. Well, how many of them had entire threads devoted to attacking them lol Seriously, though, that's the default response to anyone who questions the de… | /r/MensRights | 25/02/19 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Feminist fathers: it’s your son you need to worry about, not you daughterThere are jerks out there. There are monsters out there. Women aren't attacked and harassed because they're feminists/non-feminists. They're attacked/harassed because some people are pricks. Now let's distinguish between truly predatory behavior and a guy who says something stupid to a woman who's not interested in him. Men who prey on women know it's wrong. They don't care. Teaching them not to abuse/harass/rape isn't going to make them care. We shouldn't judge an entire gender based on the a… | /r/MensRights | 22/02/19 02:45 AM |
| 11 | Rant: List of ways that women have privilege over men.You forgot one: society will care if something affects you. Whenever I see advertisements for charity, I see things like: "One in Four homeless people are women". If something affects women, we care. If something affects men, we either ignore it or say it's their own fault. | /r/MensRights | 20/02/19 01:58 AM |
| 8 | Feminist deceptionsEven if that's true, it's irrelevant. The ones who form policy and lobby for the laws to be changed are. And what was radical feminism 30-40 years ago is mainstream feminism today. They control the cultural narrative and the institutions in this country. One I should have mentioned is the "Duluth Model" of domestic violence, which says that men are the abusers, women are the victims. This is not the fringe belief of a few man-haters. It's the most widely used model of domestic violence in the wo… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/19 07:49 AM |
| 3 | "Why Is it "Weird" When a Woman Wants Sex More Than a Man?"I've noticed that the belief that men have a much higher sex drive doesn't appear to be true. Men are definitely more interested in casual sex. Women aren't likely to respond positively to a proposition to someone on the street. In an actual relationship, however, I've heard numerous women complain their partners aren't interested as often as they are. | /r/MensRights | 18/02/19 01:12 AM |
| 3 | Intergenerational equity; "because women didn't have the vote for x years, men today should be punished". Straw man, fair, or bonkers?Most men didn't have the vote, either. In the United States, very few people could vote in the first decades of the country's history (the rules varying from state to state) Even this was remarkable in the fact that anyone could vote, which was an anomaly in the world back then. Universal male suffrage didn't happen until 1856, and then only for white males. Everyone had to fight for their right to vote, not just women and minorities. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/19 08:57 PM |
| 21 | The "Lorena" documentary is disturbing because it paints a woman who cut off a man's penis as a victim whose action was understandableI'd point out that castrating someone or shooting someone in the groin isn't a self-defense wound. It's a revenge wound. Her first explanation for doing it was that he was a selfish lover, not that he was abusive. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/19 03:38 PM |
| 1 | No matter what it is... Feminists believe it always happens to women more. Keeping up the victim narrative, always the woman that is worse off.Even on occasions where that might be true (and I'd say it is in a few areas), if that's the first response to male issues, what does that say? And what kind of message does that send to men? | /r/MensRights | 16/02/19 03:12 PM |
| 9 | Has sexual harassment ended physical flirting?You just have to remember the three essential rules to avoid being accused of sexual harassment. 1: Be Handsome 2: Be Attractive 3: Don't be unattractive | /r/MensRights | 14/02/19 04:12 PM |
| 4 | Nice try Vice but your spin-doctoring and emotional blackmail won’t work. FAILAnd there are plenty of liberals and progressives that support Men's Rights as well. Issues that affect men have an especially ugly effect on minority males. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/19 04:08 PM |
| 4 | Misandrist gets murdered by wordsI believe we call that a fatality! | /r/MensRights | 13/02/19 05:17 PM |
| 2 | "Men getting sexually assaulted and women getting sexually assaulted are completely different." Gilded, silvered, and upvoted highly.Which is one of the reasons guys don't speak out against this sort of thing, even if it does bother them. I definitely wouldn't admit it to anyone. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/19 04:38 PM |
| 19 | Woman tells man to quit whining over his circumcision.That's the exact same justification for FGM throughout Africa and the Middle East. It's practitioners believe they're doing something beneficial. And traditionally, the women perform it. The difference is that while we're doing everything we can to eradicate FGM, we're encouraging MGM. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/19 11:47 AM |
| 1 | 🤔🤔🤔 @feministsRemember, men: If you object to all the #MenareTrash hashtags that we'll see after Valentine's Day, that proves you're part of the problem. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/19 07:46 AM |
| 2 | Woman tasered autistic man because she thought he was staring at her breastsI'm on the spectrum myself and I've had those sorts of severe reactions. Never as bad as being tasered, but I've been hit for telling a woman I thought she was pretty. She's disgusting, and those like the man she tasered are particularly vulnerable to this crap. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/19 02:13 AM |
| 2 | What is the truth about the '1 in 5 women are raped' stat?I took a look at the statistic to see how they'd gotten that number. They consider all sex when a woman is intoxicated to be rape, which accounts for a large percent of that number. And as for the one in five college women will be sexually assaulted, take a look at what they consider sexual assault. If a guy pats a woman's butt or gropes her, that qualifies as sexual assault. Clearly inappropriate behavior, but not in the same category as rape. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/19 02:59 AM |
| 6 | so I run a small MRA Instagram account, this woman did not like what I posted and got mad when I would not be a feminist. (BeCaUsE aLl WoMaN hAvE tO bE fEmInIsTs) both accounts are the same, she just made a new one after I blocked her other one. but I thought all feminists are supposed to be nice?There's no such thing as female solidarity. Feminists claim there is, but take a look at how they treat female anti-feminists. Or stay-at-home moms. Or conservative women. Or even self-proclaimed feminists that reject the victimhood model. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/19 11:58 AM |
| 7 | Men's Issues master list- please add any issues I missedThat's often the feminist response to those who complain about losing their kids, or being abused with nowhere to go. Disadvantages men face is male privilege backfiring on them... or part of Patriarchy. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/19 03:16 AM |
| 3 | Men's Issues master list- please add any issues I missedOh, and if something does happen to you as a man, that's just your privilege backfiring on you. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/19 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Feminists rage against an ad that "shames women", immediately forgetting their responses to men critical of the Gillette ad, eg: "If you don't do those behaviors, then the ad isn't aimed at you" & "If you're upset by the ad, then you're part of the problem".I have a basic rule: whatever a woman tells you about her number of partners, double it. Whatever a man claims, cut it in half. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/19 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Hillary Clinton may run for President again -- God help us allI knew she was going to run again the instant she lost. I don't think she'll win, since she's lost a lot of what support she had, but she's going to try. The likely Democratic nominee is going to be to the left of Bernie Sanders. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/19 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Tumblr user calling out other tumblr users on article about college men's sex life decreasing because of anti-rape movement, "men are becoming scared of getting sex because they're scared of getting falsely accused of rape and having their lives ruined by something they didn't do"I've had it happen to me. Not of rape, but of harassment. No formal punishment, but not a single person believed me when I pleaded my innocence. It's not something I've forgotten, even after all this time. Those sorts of accusations aren't something you can just shrug off. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/19 11:38 PM |
| 31 | Do women have profoundly less empathy for men than vice versa? And is this a fundamental problem in achieving true "gender equality"?Cutting someone's dick off isn't a self-defense wound; it's a revenge wound. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/19 11:36 PM |
| 70 | I wonder if stupidity this extreme is painful...I'm pretty sure this is satire, though the fact that you have to stop and think says something about the modern feminist movement. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/19 07:54 AM |
| 8 | The only clear difference between MGM and FGM is that MGM affects far more people and that FGM is criminalized far more widelyI'm reminded of what Ayaan Hirsi Ali said about the topic. Her father studied abroad and attempted to prevent the procedure, only for her grandmother to perform it behind his back. Not only that, she claims FGM is much milder when performed by men. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2005/may/17/religion.immigration We're doing everything in our power to remove FGM, while encouraging circumcision for so-called health benefits. I was circumcised as an infant. Am I angry at my parents for that? No,… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/19 11:50 PM |
| 1 | You and I both know that if it was a 24 y/o male teacher and a 17y/o female student the reaction to this would be much different.Yep, I saw this line of comments. Pisses me off, but doesn't surprise me; it's a pretty typical reaction. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/19 03:41 PM |
| 3 | Remorseless female teacher who sexually abused 2 special needs students says "I regret nothing" (The judge sentenced her to 5 years in jail)Sadly, the surprising thing is that she received five years. More often than not, female predators don't get punished. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/19 03:33 PM |
| 5 | Clementine Ford is now unemployedMaybe there's a god after all... | /r/MensRights | 01/02/19 02:21 AM |
| 2 | #MeToo summed upAnd for a moment, it appeared that she would face real consequences, only for the story to quietly disappear. I was hopeful for a moment; now that seems naïve. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/19 05:48 PM |
| 24 | How to raise a boy like a feminist, abort him!Apparently this is a satire article, but things have gotten to the point where it's difficult to tell. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/19 10:11 PM |
| 1 | We Won All The Battles in The First So-Called Culture War, We Won The Arguments ..... They Won the Assistant Professorships.They won where it mattered. What was considered radical 30 years ago is now mainstream. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/19 08:49 PM |
| 25 | Reddit gets redpilled by the commonality of violent abusive ex-girlfriends&ex-wivesWhy would we report it? We're more likely to be arrested than the abusive woman attacking us. Under those circumstances, most will just keep their mouths shut. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/19 08:58 AM |
| 19 | Warning to UK males: the police won't approve if you rate girls and talk about how many you have slept with amongst your male friendsYes, because as we all know, locker room talk is just a stepping stone on the way to gang-raping women! Yeesh; based on my experience, women are worse in this regard. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/19 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Teacher sobs in her mugshot after being charged with child sex conductI have no sympathy for predators; lock the bitch up. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/19 03:32 AM |
| 7 | Where can I find a feminist like this?She still describes herself as a feminist, but she's been excommunicated. Most feminists I know rant about rape culture, patriarchy, and oppression. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/19 03:20 AM |
| 7 | This article sums up why so many men are angry about Gillette's ad perfectly, in my view it should be spread far and wide and used to rebut any of the usual "if you're upset, you're part of the problem" bullshitAll right, let's try this on for size. "Women are lying bitches". If you're a woman and you're offended by this statement, that just proves you're part of the problem. That kind of thing works both ways and it's bull. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/19 03:18 AM |
| 10 | Half of black children do not live with their father. And we wonder why they’re dyingIn the United States, it's only about one in five. If you go into the inner city, having an intact family is the exception, not the rule. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/19 05:19 AM |
| 3 | Why holding a door open for a woman could get a man sacked for sex harassment: One of the startling conclusions from a TV documentary which left female Journalist fearful for her son when he starts work.This was years ago... and not the only time something like that's happened. I've learned that even if you aren't formally punished, your reputation is destroyed. I could preach my innocence all I wanted; didn't matter in the least. I was guilty, end of story. They didn't care about my side. In my case... I don't think they're liars. What happens is that I try to flirt or compliment, and they freak out because of it. I'm on the Autism Spectrum, so I appear different and dangerous. Having it happe… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/19 09:44 AM |
| 7 | Why holding a door open for a woman could get a man sacked for sex harassment: One of the startling conclusions from a TV documentary which left female Journalist fearful for her son when he starts work.I've heard that before: "If you don't do anything wrong, you've got nothing to worry about." I've learned through personal experience how untrue this is. Just to give one example, I was fired from my job for being friendly with a female co-worker. I didn't flirt with her, compliment her, tell her any dirty jokes; just talked with her. As a result, the company blacklisted me, taking me over two years to find another job. That's just one incident; there are others. I appear different to people, so… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/19 05:51 AM |
| 1 | it's funny that as a girl who's friends are all guys I can see that I have it better then them.Exactly. The diehards won't, but those who have simply accepted this state of affairs and not given it much thought are more likely to. I, on the other hand, am reduced to basking in my male privilege. If there's one message I'd send that I thought anyone would listen to, it's this: not judging or hating an entire gender for the actions of a few. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/19 10:39 AM |
| 1 | it's funny that as a girl who's friends are all guys I can see that I have it better then them.You'll have far more luck than me; it's why they respond to you the way they do. Nobody cares what I say. Sadly, what was radical feminism 40 years ago has become mainstream today. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/19 10:32 AM |
| 1 | it's funny that as a girl who's friends are all guys I can see that I have it better then them.My mother's one, making it even more complicated. I'm glad we're developing some awareness for this problem, even if there's a long way to go yet. Movements like this take a lot of time, and with the stronghold feminists have on public discourse, it won't be easy. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/19 10:17 AM |
| 2 | it's funny that as a girl who's friends are all guys I can see that I have it better then them.I've never had any luck. Mostly, I just piss them off; they don't want to hear it. I'm a guy, so my opinion doesn't count. Not my family, though: I can't tell them I'm a MRM supporter. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/19 09:49 AM |
| 3 | it's funny that as a girl who's friends are all guys I can see that I have it better then them.I've found it very difficult to convince people of any of this. Have you had any better luck? | /r/MensRights | 12/01/19 09:33 AM |
| 15 | it's funny that as a girl who's friends are all guys I can see that I have it better then them.I agree: I've never seen a PSA with a female abuser. The one male victim I saw was for a homosexual relationship. I checked the local information about domestic violence; based on the Duluth Model. There's also the casual bigotry I hear on a regular basis: women are superior, women are smarter, women are kinder, women have it harder, men have no empathy for women, men can't handle what women do every day. All of this is taken for granted. Thank you for standing up for men. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/19 09:17 AM |
| 19 | Another 10 Year Old Child Is Being Exploited By The LGBTQ CommunityIf they're trying to fight the stereotype that homosexuals (or at least male ones) are pedophiles, throwing money at a 10-year-old drag queen on stage really doesn't help their case. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/19 07:39 AM |
| 5 | Taken from a domestic abuse site we're studying. Disgusting.This is from the Duluth Model, the most widely used model in the world. Crap like this is why men don't talk about being abused by their partners. Societal support for beating women? Bullshit! The surest way in fiction to show someone's a bad guy is to have him beat up or rape a woman. You hit a woman, even if self-defense, you're reviled as a worthless sack of shit. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/19 09:47 AM |
| 7 | This RationalWiki page for the Men's rights movement severely misrepresents the movement and what it stands for.Yep. If you're not fully on board with rape culture, the Duluth Model, and others, you're an anti-feminist and therefore a monster. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/19 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Rumblings of a Culture War Within the Right | Tucker Carlson's recent program prompts discussion about why conservatives aren't doing more to help men.When they mention problems with men, it's usually: "Shut up about your problems and grow up!" Having so many single mothers is blamed on worthless deadbeats, rather than taking into account some mothers that exclude the father from the children's lives; interestingly enough, one thing that the liberals and conservatives agree on. There are some exceptions to this rule, like Jordan Peterson, but that's the general sentiment. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/19 09:02 AM |
| 38 | Why do people keep posting on /r/feminism and then act surprised when they're banned?For some, it's a rite of passage. For others, they might have genuinely believed that r/feminism would be willing to allow open debate and were quickly proven wrong. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 08:06 PM |
| 115 | Feminist can't comprehend someone caring about men...We bring it up because violence against men is ignored. We bring it up because men are more likely to be arrested than helped when they call the police on their abusive partners. Because the Duluth Model completely removes male victims from the equation. And because feminists have proven that they do not consider female-on-male abuse to be a problem. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Man who was wrongly convicted for murder at age 14 gets exonerated after 27 years in prison.And since he was sent to an adult prison, what do you think happens to a 14-year old locked up with hardened criminals? I doubt he'll be willing to speak of it, but to someone so vulnerable, rape was likely a frequent experience for him, at least until he was able to defend himself. He suffered massively for a crime he didn't commit; hence why I don't believe the claim: "If you didn't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about." | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 12:47 AM |
| 25 | Actions vs words- looking at what feminists actually DO, they are trying to creating a blatantly segregated and unequal society where men are second class citizens."Women were oppressed and treated as slaves for thousands of years! How do you like being on the receiving end?!" I've heard this sort of response when it's not the claim that they're merely working towards equality. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 12:42 AM |
| 1 | I said this on a post about men already having rights. any more I can add I want to make a decent paragraph I can just copy and paste into these arguments.Yeah. I can also add that if you appear different, flirting can be very risky for you; found that out the hard way. By and large, we're oblivious to male issues outside: "Patriarchy hurts men too" | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 12:00 AM |
| 1 | I said this on a post about men already having rights. any more I can add I want to make a decent paragraph I can just copy and paste into these arguments.Here's a big one: we care about problems that affect women. We don't care about men, whether that's here or any country. 249 girls kidnapped in Nigeria received far more attention than 10,000 boys being slaughtered, not to mention those tortured into becoming a child soldier. I don't know how much you know about that process, but it's a very brutal experience. And here, we scream about mansplaining and air conditioning. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/19 11:54 PM |
| 2 | I thought woman could not abuse men?Somehow, I'm less than surprised. They both deny that men can be abused and brag about beating up their boyfriends. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/19 05:10 PM |
| 7 | Elizabeth Smart's female kidnapper released 5 years early from prison and lives near an elementary school.Don't forget Karla Homolka as well. | /r/PussyPass | 02/01/19 06:15 PM |
| 2 | Feminists recently launched a gang attack on me for “hating all women” claiming I need a sisterhood- but my sexism won’t allow it.When a family member is a feminist, it's a difficult conversation topic. Men have a difficult time bringing up these issues and when we do, our situation is usually something we're seen as having done something to deserve it. And I am speaking as a former feminist; my path here was a gradual one. Not an easy thing to turn your back on. We have an instinct to protect women from harm, since men are expendable. Sadly, it's not on the fringe where these attitudes reside. Beliefs about "rape culture"… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/19 10:39 PM |
| 2 | Feminists recently launched a gang attack on me for “hating all women” claiming I need a sisterhood- but my sexism won’t allow it.They're going to hate you even more because you're a traitor to their gender. No such thing as female solidarity. It's a common response towards those who support and fight for men's rights. Hell, I can't even tell my own family; what does that say about the level of hatred? For many of them, this is what they've been taught and they've never had a reason to question it. We react instinctively to female pain, far more than male. Combine that with the victim/oppressor model and from every directi… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/19 09:09 PM |
| 1 | I confused my mates todayI've meet them in real life; people my mom and her boyfriend knows. I keep my mouth shut most of the time out of politeness even though I know what they would say. A common pattern among them is having a few bad experiences poisoning their worldview. A male abuse victim might have turned you into an MRA, but it did the opposite for them. The few times I've been cautious and mentioned male issues, they're seen within the feminist paradigm. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/19 07:51 AM |
| 1 | I confused my mates todayIt's true. I so much as bring up male problems, the most likely response is being told that I'm whining about losing my privileges. Gives you some idea of the level of compassion they feel. And almost every feminist I know believes the rape culture, victim/oppressor model, one-sided domestic violence paradigm. Hardly a fringe belief. But passionate feminists are likely to hate you more than me, since you're a bigger threat. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/19 07:44 AM |
| 2 | I confused my mates todayI wrote a quora response about who has it harder: men or women. I bent over backwards to be fair, because I'm aware women deal with issues as well. It still upset her, something she made quite clear. She's a feminist, so I have to keep my mouth shut. And my dad dismissing it, saying only a tiny number of feminist hate men despite evidence to the contrary. Nobody cares what I say; I'm a privileged male. You'll have a better chance of convincing people. I'd like to be able to mention it, but circu… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/19 07:32 AM |
| 1 | I confused my mates todayI can't tell anyone at all, even my own family. My mom's a feminist and would react rather badly to it; just bringing male issues up upsets her. I'm aware this stand isn't going to win me any friends, but there are issues I believe need to be addressed. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/19 07:27 AM |
| 1 | I confused my mates todayDownside of working the night shift without a vehicle. I'm glad someone recognizes things can happen to men too. I'm curious: have you told anyone you know you're a men's rights supporter? | /r/MensRights | 01/01/19 07:22 AM |
| 1 | I confused my mates todayIt's something I'm used to. We just have the perception that woman are the ones in constant danger. For example, we believe that young women are more likely to be killed when the exact opposite is the case. I was always a bit nervous walking home alone at night, even if I didn't have any other option. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/19 07:09 AM |
| 9 | I confused my mates todayIt isn't just rape; men can end up being mugged, assaulted, or killed going home alone at night. We're just expected to be able to defend ourselves if anything happens. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/18 05:55 PM |
| 2 | I want to help male survivors of sexual assault speak their peace!Thank you for not hating an entire gender for the actions of a few individuals. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/18 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Women to Crazed Feminists: We Will Fight You To Defend Our MenNice to know not everyone believes the claims of victimhood. Of course, they're instead accused of suffering from internalized misogyny. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/18 11:11 AM |
| 22 | Female, 23, trying to become more informed— long post, requesting resources and directionA book I'd recommend, even if it was written by someone who describes herself as a feminist is "Who Stole Feminism" by Christina Hoff Sommers. She documents the half-truths, exaggerations, and sometimes just flat out lying committed by the feminist movement as a whole. It was written in 1994, I believe, so it's a little dated, but overall a worthwhile read. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/18 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Can a woman rape a man?.... listen to Prof Mary Koss say NO! “How would that happen…how would that happen by force or threat of force or when the victim is unable to consent? How does that happen?” - “What would I call it? I would call it ‘unwanted contact’.”I've looked at the one in four statistic, since I was curious as to how they got that number. According to them, if a woman has ever had sex while intoxicated or high on drugs, she's a rape victim. It's the surveyors, not the women themselves, that decided if they were raped or not. And with the statistic: "One in five women will be victims of sexual assault", it's technically true. They just counted things like having someone grab your breast or your butt, as well as someone trying to kiss you … | /r/MensRights | 30/12/18 06:36 AM |
| 3 | I’m mostly democrat.Right now, while conservatives as a whole aren't that sympathetic either, some of them are willing to acknowledge that we have a major problem with young men. There isn't necessarily a concrete solution, but they're at least aware of it. Unfortunately, the progressives have fallen so deeply into the sewers of identity politics that they ignore the issue entirely and declare that men are whining about losing their privileges. I wish more progressives did care, because issues that we talk about he… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/18 06:32 AM |
| 13 | I had my "Woman Card" revoked because I support Men's Rights.Exactly. For all their preaching about female solidarity, they respond with enormous hostility to those who don't agree with them. You don't need to declare yourself a female MRA; just state you're a non-feminist and witness the result. And one of the obstacles we face is even among those who don't identify as feminists, male issues don't feel "real". We respond more to female difficulties, while male problems are considered to be something they brought on themselves. They may not be fond of men… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/18 06:20 AM |
| 1 | Do you guys also purposely avoid girlsDo I avoid talking to them? No. Do I avoid flirting with, complimenting, or asking women out? Yes, something I've learned through painful experience. I appear weird and different, so I'm considered threatening. Only way I found to prevent anything from happening is to simply not say or do anything that can be considered flirtation. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/18 07:02 PM |
| 1 | But let's blame the patriarchy (Women will punish sexualized women, more than men)The general explanation I hear for this, which is something I knew long before this study, is that women are suffering from internalized misogyny. One way or another, it's still the fault of men, even if they aren't the ones attacking women for promiscuity. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/18 11:21 PM |
| 1 | William Shatner Likens #MeToo Movement to French Revolution If Not Policed: "I keep asking who is policing it because there’s a lot using it for their own personal vendettas that have nothing to do with the points of the movement,"Well, that ship sailed a long time ago. Now if you so much as smile at a woman, you can have an accusation thrown at you 20 years later. And let's not forget the climate of fear it leaves those who haven't been accused. | /r/MensRights | 24/12/18 10:40 PM |
| 2 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.Course we do! Why else would we stand up for men's rights? Disadvantages are just our privilege backfiring on us or the fault of the Patriarchy. It's sad how effective feminists have been in silencing all opposition. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 07:06 PM |
| 6 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.So sad. You're so oblivious to the oppression you face. In all serious, though, I know someone in that situation. He's married to a woman who is a current/former drug addict and alcoholic. And last I heard, she does nothing around the house, either; she's too depressed over her weight and her life to do anything. People disagree with me when I say that, but I would say he's got plenty to fear when it comes to losing his kid. Sounds harsh, but courts often favor the mother even when they shouldn'… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 04:55 PM |
| 7 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.As a card-carrying member of the Patriarchy, let me be the first to welcome you to the dark side. We welcome all Gender traitors! | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 04:21 PM |
| 1 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.I've noticed that myself. Fights between women go on and on and on. Men are more lucky to beat the hell out of each other and get it over with. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 02:29 PM |
| 36 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.Don't you understand? If you're a female non-feminist, the Patriarchy has succeeded in blinding you to your own oppression. You must listen to male feminists in order to see the light! Salvation can be yours if you accept the truth and believe whatever we say without question. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 02:24 PM |
| 1 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.Sad thing is that I still occasionally struggle with a dislike of my own gender, even if I know better. Yep; male or female, the response was generally the same. Apparently the fact it had been 37 years, in a dark room, with heavy intoxication can play havoc with your memory, even if she was truthful, is enough to break out the torches and pitchforks. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 12:02 PM |
| 4 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.Posted mine on Quora. Had a few thoughtful responses, but mostly, they were screaming at me. And I bring these issues up in conversation every so often. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 11:58 AM |
| 14 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.I didn't even say that much; just said the evidence was flimsy and what case there was steadily fell apart. They sometimes remind me of a lynch mob. Where did you post it? | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 11:53 AM |
| 21 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.I've known a couple rape victims who have that kind of hostile attitude; a woman's word should be all it takes to lock someone away for life. They didn't realize how much that would harm them (and the two accused boys were in the U.S. illegally, opening up a whole new can of worms) And they don't consider how that could be used against the men in their lives. I received a lot of vicious comments when I wrote about the Kavanaugh hearings but it isn't like I didn't expect it. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 11:47 AM |
| 1 | If I were raped by a woman, would I have to pay child support should she have a child from that rape?Yeah, there's a strong chance of it. It's your privilege backfiring on you, as they say. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 11:44 AM |
| 49 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.I remember one of them saying: "I hope you get raped so you know what it feels like!" when I pointed out we have a presumption of innocence for a reason. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 11:41 AM |
| 101 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.Strange as it sounds, I've noticed they hate female anti-feminists and MRAs more than male versions. They are either traitors to the sisterhood or suffering from internalized misogyny. After all, we're men; oppression and misogyny is in our blood, but how could a woman choose that path?! | /r/MensRights | 18/12/18 11:05 AM |
| 2 | I'm not happySpeaking as someone who is on the Autism Spectrum, I've had that happen to me on multiple occasions. It's why I don't dare flirt with or compliment women, because I appear different and thus, threatening. I was a very hugging person as a kid; now I refuse to do it unless there is no way around it. I'm glad you're at least aware of the problem. It's not fair, but there isn't much that can be done about it. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/18 04:49 AM |
| 2 | How do i tell people I dont like feminism without them thinking i hate women?You can't. If you don't like feminism, there are many people who will think you simply hate women. If you're not pro-feminist, you're anti-woman and that's the end of the discussion. You can try explaining, but I can't promise they'll listen to you. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/18 04:03 AM |
| 3 | Why isnt the underachievement of boys in school being addressed by society?Because we don't give a shit, frankly. They're not our problem, they brought in on themselves, women have it so much worse, and so on. Lip service is given to the problem, but little else. | /r/MensRights | 14/12/18 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Are men inferior to women? Let's check the data | FACTUAL FEMINISTThe fact this has to be said says a lot about the direction we're going. Even a lot of men I've encountered believe women are superior; it's become common knowledge. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/18 02:09 PM |
| 1 | I got banned from r/Feminism for thisWell, that's considered a badge of honor around here; congratulations! | /r/MensRights | 11/12/18 06:59 AM |
| 1 | Lies, Damned Lies, and StatisticsBoth of these links are sources that I read before creating this post. How RAINN came up with such a tiny number for the total numbers of rapists, I have yet to see. Even with the higher number it gives for 2015, that doesn't fit with the numbers of people currently in prison for sex crimes. I'd like to know how they get such a small number. I consider it perfectly plausible that they'd be willing to lie or at least manipulate the statistics; it wouldn't be difficult to do. It's far from the fir… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/18 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Feminism is necessaryI'm speaking as a former feminist and it was far more than a single encounter. I've found that even the kinder feminists (and many non-feminists) are frequently blind to male issues and have little desire to learn about them outside the "Patriarchy hurts men too" paradigm. Men might make more money, but they work longer hours under far more dangerous conditions. And if women made less money for the same work, no employer would ever hire another male in this era of cost-cutting. And over 80% of s… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/18 11:55 PM |
| 3 | Feminism is necessaryBecause it's the source for most of our difficulties. Even when they didn't start with the feminist movement, they're amplified by them. When we speak about men's issues, they do everything possible to silence us, sometimes including physical violence. Warren Farrell was once the president of NOW and cares deeply for female and male issues. The response to his speeches were protestors preventing people from listening to him, screaming "Fuck Warren Farrell" and had to be removed by police before … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 06:25 AM |
| 4 | I, a male, have been sexually assaulted at least three separate times by different women, and only one of my many female friends has been sexually assaulted my whole life.I've known several women who were raped or sexually abused, which is a big reason why I used to lean feminist. I've never had any man tell me that they've survived sexual violence, let alone from a female. Hence why I once considered it a rare event. Over time, I started thinking that maybe it's because men aren't willing to share that kind of information, not because it didn't happen. Some of the women I knew were rather open about it, saying it after I knew them for only a short time. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 06:04 AM |
| 7 | Opinion: 8% of prisoners are women. That’s about 8% too many.They always come up with some excuse why they don't belong in prison, one of the classic ones being: "She had a bad childhood". "She was abused" "She was raped" "She was molested". Sometimes it's even true, but the same is true of male prisoners. Many of them had horrible childhoods, but it's not shown as an excuse for their actions. | /r/MensRights | 07/12/18 09:29 PM |
| 13 | Predictably, Neil deGrass Tyson's lengthy explanation and apologia has only emboldened feminist sharks to circle more aggressively...Once an accusation is made, no apology will ever be enough; no denials or proof of innocence will be enough. You have to be utterly destroyed as a warning to other people who may say the wrong thing at the wrong time. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/18 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Democrats Oppose Due Process for Students Accused of Sexual MisconductWish this was from a better source than Breitbart, but they're right. When the "Dear colleague" rules were repealed, I saw media outlets everywhere screaming that it was going to be open season for sexual predators. None of them gave a damn about the erosion of due process, something certain individuals want to bring into criminal court as well. Even the ACLU won't support them; scary times indeed. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/18 02:10 AM |
| 4 | Another woman arrested for "having sex with" / "having an inappropriate relationship with" a 12-year-old studentThey just can't bring themselves to say the word rape when it's female-on-male; why am I not surprised? | /r/MensRights | 06/12/18 02:03 AM |
| 1 | My feelings on Man FluWhen it comes to noble... generally they're all right so long as you do what you're supposed to do. Deliberate mistreatment isn't a good idea since you'll give them a big motivation to kill you; I've read The Prince. Servants who can read would be quite an advantage to them. Bennett might keep that comparison to himself, since I doubt he'd want to be considered a victim. It all depends both on what you want in a marriage and what's possible. My mom stayed home with us until I was in middle schoo… | /r/MensRights | 05/12/18 08:56 PM |
| 1 | My feelings on Man FluOk, just pointing that tidbit of information out. That could work, depending on why they like him despite his oddball status. I expect it's something Benedict's accustomed to, considering his life. My own writing can scare me sometimes when I hadn't anticipated writing something this grim. | /r/MensRights | 05/12/18 12:52 PM |
| 1 | My feelings on Man FluNever know what the future can bring. I leaned feminist a decade ago, though I was starting to question their claims. Ok, in that case, he could get away with it. However, his parents are a lot more likely to use physical punishment against him; that was common back in the 18th century. And he'd be considered an oddball. We have a hard time understanding Autism now, let alone then. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/18 11:47 AM |
| 1 | My feelings on Man FluWell, life isn't fair; I've learned that one firsthand. Btw, in the 18th century, it would be next to impossible to be picky unless he comes from a wealthy family. You ate what you had. Oh, and for all you know, you could end up being a feminist a decade from now. I certainly didn't anticipate being a closeted MRA a decade ago; I hadn't even heard of the movement then. While MRA to feminist is less common than the reverse, it's far from unheard of. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/18 02:49 AM |
| 1 | My feelings on Man FluThere are some people that the universe just plain hates; hence why I don't believe in karma. Interesting question: would Jesus be able to forgive Judas for his betrayal? He was incompetent, but had the political connections others lacked. Course after Camden, he was so disgraced that he never commanded an army again; that sort of disaster was one nobody could ignore. Our Founding Fathers were human beings, with all the imperfections and conflicts that come along with them. Some honest-to-god ha… | /r/MensRights | 04/12/18 01:48 AM |
| 1 | My feelings on Man FluEven if she abused him, he could still love her; lot of abuse victims do. His life was a very tragic one. I've been called a Nazi for less than that, mostly because I disagree with a certain point of view. My aunt and cousins are Jewish, so I find it incredibly insulting, not to mention trivializing what the Nazis actually did. I don't use them as villains in my writing though; it's massively overdone. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/18 01:38 AM |
| 1 | My feelings on Man FluI'm not; there are many shades of grey... but that doesn't mean black doesn't exist. People are complicated, as was Benedict Arnold. Modern historians are more willing to give him credit for his contributions, but aren't going to overlook his treason. What you said about Nazis is precisely why I hate the term being thrown so casually, equaling anything that person disagrees with. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/18 01:19 AM |
| 1 | My feelings on Man FluEven if you restrict it to Christians alone, which not everyone does, that still condemns over 5 billion people to damnation. Obviously, I have something of a problem with this. I've been damned on many occasions... and even by fellow atheists because I don't share their hostility to religion. I think he was legitimately screwed over, but I'm not about to whitewash his actions. He wasn't the only traitor, but he was the most infamous. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/18 12:36 AM |
| 9 | as a female mens rights activist I've been blocked by 15 "feminist" accounts.This isn't new. It's been going on for more than 40 years, and feminists have done an excellent job sweeping male victims under the rug. The impression they give me is that they've been deeply wronged in the past, leading them to focus on their pain, their anger, their scars, with the inability to see the other side of the story. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/18 12:22 AM |
| 8 | as a female mens rights activist I've been blocked by 15 "feminist" accounts.I've been hit in the face a couple times because I told a woman I thought she was pretty. Nothing vulgar and on one of those occasions, I was attempting to cheer her up. You can be wronged by an individual man and not hate the gender as a whole; there are female MRAs who have been raped and still fight for men's rights. I believe all abuse victims deserve compassion and support, no matter the gender, but that's a very controversial opinion. Listen to Erin Pizzey if you want to learn what it was … | /r/MensRights | 04/12/18 12:16 AM |
| 1 | My feelings on Man FluI'm an Atheist. I do my best to be a good person, although there are plenty of moments I fall short of that. And its why even though my dad can't handle emotional topics that I know he cares. Don't expect to be perfect. When you're in a relationship, you will fall short sometimes; there's no way around it. So will he. I'm curious: ever been accused of internalized misogyny? | /r/MensRights | 04/12/18 12:13 AM |
| 2 | My feelings on Man FluSure, you can change the world. I'm making my own efforts to do that through writing, even if the primary goal is simply to tell a good story. Plenty do; I'm not saying all women do this. Far from it. I'd just say that one of the issues are that you notice when he makes mistakes, when he falls short of the perfect boyfriend. You don't notice or take for granted what he does do. For example, my own dad is not the guy you approach when it comes to emotional comfort, which was a major reason for th… | /r/MensRights | 03/12/18 11:58 PM |
| 18 | as a female mens rights activist I've been blocked by 15 "feminist" accounts.I've brought it up too. Interestingly enough, more women are sympathetic to them than men are; other males tend to laugh. That is, unless they're feminists; then they're likely to start screaming at me, saying it's trivial, that the overwhelming majority of abuse victims are women, sometimes even that men deserve it. It's sad. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/18 11:53 PM |
| 17 | as a female mens rights activist I've been blocked by 15 "feminist" accounts.Yeah, I don't mention being an MRA supporter to anyone, even family. I'm much more Warren Farrell than Paul Elam, but it doesn't matter. What did you say that they agreed with? | /r/MensRights | 03/12/18 11:41 PM |
| 2 | My feelings on Man FluCourse, even if I complain, I still work when I'm sick during the season. I don't go home unless I'm vomiting, at which point it's unwise for me to continue. I've seen it all over social media, women complaining about how their boyfriends behave when they're ill. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/18 11:34 PM |
| 96 | as a female mens rights activist I've been blocked by 15 "feminist" accounts.Well, you've just earned a badge of honor! Seriously, though, it's really not a surprise. Male issues are invisible to a lot of people, feminists in particular. A lot of them just don't feel real to people, or seen in the "Patriarchy hurts men too" lens. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/18 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Wrongful convictionsGo right ahead. Just send me the link when you do. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/18 12:40 PM |
| 2 | My feelings on Man FluJust another way to call men whiny little bitches. They might say they want us to talk about our feelings, but too many aren't interested in taking our difficulties seriously. I'm something of a wimp when it comes to being sick, something my family is happy to remind me of. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 08:25 PM |
| 8 | My feelings on Man FluWell, it gives the lie to the claim: "We want men to open up and talk about what's bothering them". When we do, this is the general response. Can't win either way. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 03:14 AM |
| 3 | Come on! Neil deGrasse Tyson Is Under Investigation for Sexual MisconductWe still have a presumption of innocence in this country, at least in theory. And misconduct can mean just about anything. That's anything from repeated rapes to asking her out, and in the latter case, I'm not going to scream my head off and denounce him. It's meant to be a process, not a lynch mob. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 02:15 AM |
| 17 | Washington Post: Men who vote for Donald Trump are insecure about their Penis'Saw this all over social media, mostly from feminists on FB. Let me guess: to prove I'm a real man, I must vote for whoever his opponent is in 2020. God, satire isn't even satire anymore. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/18 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Let's Teach Boys...Not to Be RapistsThis is feminist rape prevention in a nutshell. For anyone who thinks this started with the #MeToo movement, it's been going on a lot longer than that. It's exactly what I was taught in school, and our health book gave an example that looking back, seems to incredulous to be believed: "Oh, I didn't know that if I forced a woman onto the bed, ripped her clothes off, ignored her protests and had sex with her despite her crying and pleas, that I was committing rape!" I truly wish I was making this … | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 03:09 PM |
| 13 | How the word "feminism" is interpreted by MRA's vs feministsBecause there's a certain blindness to male issues, even among those who don't identify as feminists. Feminists, if they think about male issues as all, see it through the lens of "Patriarchy hurts men too". And for some, this is what they've believed for decades and have devoted a lot of their time and energy to. It's not easy walking away from something you've invested so much energy into. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 02:56 PM |
| 2 | Most female homicide victims are killed in the home... (BBC quietly mentions later that 80% of murder victims are men).There's a common misconception that women are far more likely to be killed, mostly due to media reports and ID programs. It's the other way around, which says a lot about how powerful the narrative is. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/18 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassChange is hard to accomplish, particularly surrounding men that we have little sympathy for. We just do what I can. Think of how difficult it is for people who have done this for decades. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/18 12:25 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassBut when it's proposed, feminists and their supporters find a way to defeat it. I also think alimony should be reformed, but you know the opposition to that as well. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/18 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassI don't oppose it entirely, but it's something that's easily abused. And if he's paying child support, he should be allowed to see his kid. I believe that in divorce cases, 50-50 custody should be the default unless there's a damn good reason not to, like abuse, neglect, addiction, etc. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassIn my case... some characters get a happy ending, some don't. The novel I'm currently working on, it's not likely. This one's much grimmer than Phoenix. It all depends on how the plot flows. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassYeah, I can feel bad for fictional characters I create. I'm somewhat biased, though; my female characters tend to get happier endings. It's a lifetime movie about a man being abused by his wife. Far as I know, it's the only one of its kind ever made and it sparked so much outrage that they never showed it again. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassThat's the real world for you. And they'd be more likely to believe he raped her than the other way around. My current projects are giving me plenty of motivation, so I don't expect that pace to continue indefinitely. I hear constantly that false accusations are so rare as to not be worth considering; even mentioning it or writing a female-on-male abuse story sparks all sorts of outrage. Ever heard of "Men don't tell"? | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassOk, I was wondering. I don't know how graphic you can get in young adult fiction. Managed to get around 3,000 words done today. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassI don't know how far you can go in a young adult novel, but having it implied rather than explicitly stated I think would work. So... if she's a mage, does that mean she would be able to kill people with it? | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassIn that case, there's really nothing he can do but suffer. He's powerless against whatever physical and sexual violence she chooses to dish out. I've actually got a short story I'm about 2/3rds of the way done with. Guy ends up falsely accused of rape and ends up suffering a terrible price for it. Admittedly, I know what would happen if I showed this to the broader writing community, but I'm writing it anyway. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassThat would be very difficult for a girl her age. Kids often love their parents even when they're monsters. Well, he's not going to have much recourse save for avoiding her as much as she can. We don't take that kind of thing seriously now, let alone at the time your idea takes place. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassThere were female concentration camp guards, who were just as brutal as the men; sometimes more so. I expect Gretchen could have very mixed feelings. She hates him, but there's a part of her that loves him and wants his approval. She's a kid, after all, and Hitler is her surrogate father. It's very hard to turn against a parent, even an adopted one. Mine is the President and she intends to keep her seat even though she's lost. Enough people believe in her that they'll fight and things accelerate… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassMy writing has been blasted by those I show it to, but it had little to do with the substance. They were unhappy because my main female MC in my finished book isn't able to take care of herself. Well, she isn't in the beginning; she grows into an action girl over the course of the story. I wasn't thinking of this at the time, but a decent comparison is Sarah Connor from terminator. And in my next story, both the villain and the closest thing the book has to a hero are female. There's nothing red… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassWell, that was true for me when I was your age; now I'm more in between. I've always been a writer, though, and I'm getting close to having something actually published. I've already got the weary cynicism of an old man; maybe I should self-identify as a centenarian. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/18 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassMost of the people I talk with are around my mom's age and the one online friend I have is about 11 years older than I am. Mostly, I just hear myself talk, but that's ok. I either get along with people considerably younger or older than I am; rarely people of comparable age. That's been true since I was a kid. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/18 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassLuck can play a role in it as well, not just gender. Some people on the spectrum were fortunate enough to find long-term friends; I wasn't. Hey, I feel bad about hitting a girl when I was 7; she mispronounced my name and I thought she was making fun of me. It'll depend on the teacher as well. There's a good reason some men are becoming more hesitant to act. Only the decent men, though; not the pricks. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassBeing that I've been punched in the jaw for telling a woman I thought she was pretty (couple times in college), probably nothing good. I remember reading about a case like that, where a 7-year-old got expelled for kissing a female classmate on the cheek. The feminist reaction was: "It's a kiss now, but it could be rape when he gets a little older. We need to teach these boys a message early." We do, to the point where there are those who think we should remove due process. And most vigilante kil… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/18 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassI'm just speaking in terms of species. So part of it is ingrained, but feminism has amplified that to the point where they've convinced the world we don't take women seriously at all. I've heard over and over we didn't take harassment and assault seriously until the #MeToo movement. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/18 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassLife isn't fair; sad, but it's always been that way and always will. There are at least some steps being made, but it's a treacherous topic. Part of it is because men are biologically expendable. You need far more women than men to keep the species alive (although if half the men suddenly disappeared, our civilization would quickly grind to a halt) I see it all over social media and it's difficult to challenge, especially when they're family friends. I don't mention I'm an MRA; even my family is… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/18 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassWe care far more about women than we do men. The dominant narrative is that men and society need to develop more empathy for women, that we aren't doing enough to solve their difficulties. Does that give some idea of the blind spot we have? It isn't just feminists. It's men, women, everyone. You might be able to do so, since you're a woman yourself, but I'm simply saying what's worked better for me. I do bring up problems men face as well, and I've gotten quite a bit of agreement. A big part is … | /r/MensRights | 24/11/18 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassI've found a better tactic is talking about how feminism harms women, rather than what it does to men. Teaching women to be constantly afraid, seeing their sons go through hell because of the system, losing opportunities due to fear of accusations... the list goes on. | /r/MensRights | 23/11/18 12:58 PM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassMaybe things really are changing. The overall narrative is still feminist-dominated, but there does seem to be more awareness. I'm a cynical individual, in case it wasn't obvious. It's easier for you to challenge things than it is me; means more coming from someone lacking a Y chromosome. | /r/MensRights | 23/11/18 03:08 AM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassThat's a better response than I would have expected. A lot of people say these sorts of things unconsciously. It generally isn't something we think about. Good on you for confronting her about it. Guys are generally used to this sort of thing, so it's easy to tune out. I remember responding to one of my teachers saying: "If we want equality, have women punished just as harshly for crimes. Have women register for the draft." She was forced to admit I had a point. How much have things changed over… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/18 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Wikipedia says the Alt-Right was created largely due to the rhetoric of MRAs.Alt-Right is little other than a slur now. White Supremacists might have adopted it, but in reality, it's just a way to demonize whatever viewpoint you disagree with. Strange; for all the alleged connections to the Alt-right movement, I've yet to see any such thing in this forum. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/18 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Misandry in My French ClassYou know, if even everything she said was true, that men opposed women throughout most of human history, two wrongs don't make a right. It's no more right for men to suffer than it is for women to. Frankly, it's because we're used to this sort of thing. We hear it so much that we don't think much of it, unless it crosses the line from prejudice into outright hatred. I remember one of my male teachers outright saying that women were superior; at the time, I agreed with that statement. Men not fol… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/18 06:22 AM |
| 6 | Feminist Julie Bindel: 'Juries Have No Place in Rape Trials. They Simply Can’t Be Trusted'This tells me that she wants to remove the presumption of innocence. Well, let's do that! We don't need a trial, or to give the defendant rights. Let's do on a national scale what we've done in colleges, where an accusation is all you need and even if there's evidence of innocence, convict them anyway. And if innocent men end up in prison... it's for the greater good. I really, really hope they don't succeed in changing the law that way, but it's certainly possible. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/18 11:20 PM |
| 4 | Shoutout to /r/The_Donald for showing men some love!It'd be nice if Men's Rights could be kept as an apolitical movement, but that isn't going to happen. Conservatives aren't real sympathetic, but some are at least willing to hear us out. Progressives, on the other hand, have become obsessed with identity politics. They're willing to lie, suppress, and use violence to silence anyone who speaks about men's issues. I hear over and over again: "They're just angry that they can no longer rape, abuse, and harass women with impunity!" And this isn't ab… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Sexual assault cases: Guilty until proven innocent?You know, I've watched my share of crime shows, mostly because there's nothing good on. What's very difficult to miss is that most vigilante murders involve sex crimes. So it's not merely harmful to a man's reputation; it can be lethal. And that doesn't include all the suicides that result from it. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 12:26 AM |
| 23 | We'll look back on the rush to change our children's sex as one of the darkest chapters in medicineI'm sure there is gender dysphoria. There are people whose first memory is "I'm in the wrong body" and declare it to their dying day, even if they do not or cannot transition. However, there are others doing it because it's trendy in certain circles to identify as another gender or as genderfluid. But under no circumstances should we be performing this transition on children. You should be an adult before such a life-altering and irreversible (to the best of my knowledge) decision is made. This … | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 12:24 AM |
| 4 | Rape and sexual assault rates are the lowest point since the Justice Department started surveying Americans in 1973Yet the fear of rape and the anger towards men has only grown over the past 40 years. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/18 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Since when have we become anti-woman?We're going to be called that no matter what we say. All you have to do is criticize feminism; you don't even need to be an MRA. And the reason we criticize and even attack feminism is because every time we bring these issues up, they shout us down. NOW refers to father's rights group as an abuser's lobby, and they're considered mainstream feminism. Inequality, domestic rape, rape... all male issues that feminists ignore and even suppress. The only time I hear male problems mentioned is through … | /r/MensRights | 17/11/18 07:27 PM |
| 5 | Feminist weighs on male DV victimsEither it's "Male victims are minuscule in number" or "They did something to deserve it". With this kind of attitude, little wonder male victims are so reluctant to come forward. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/18 07:14 PM |
| 11 | I'm surprised how many people on this sub *still* identity with the leftWhen it comes to men's rights, neither of them are very sympathetic. Many conservatives I read blame the fatherless problem all on immature men who refuse to grow up and take responsibility. That's true in some cases, but there are also plenty of mothers who refuse to let the father see the kid under any circumstances. However, some on the right are at least willing to acknowledge that we have a serious problem with boys and young men. They may not necessarily have a good solution, but they reco… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/18 11:20 AM |
| 3 | Anyone tired of how only men are seen as perverts?Just remember the three essential rules to avoid being accused of harassment. 1: Be Handsome 2: Be Attractive 3: Don't be unattractive | /r/MensRights | 07/11/18 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Remember how everyone in the media is talking about the 2nd Kavanaugh accuser admitting she lied and made the whole hung up. Luckily she is being investigated.It won't matter to the true believers. Once an accusation is made, some people will always believe in the man's guilt. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/18 11:36 PM |
| 2 | “If a man says to you that a woman is crazy or difficult, ask him, ‘What bad thing did you do to her?’” - Natalie Portman | HuffpostSo does that mean it would be ok to say that if a woman describes all her ex-boyfriends as worthless, that she's really to blame? I'll admit, when I hear a woman say that about all her ex-partners as horrible, not just a specific one, I consider two possibilities: either she's got poor taste in men or she's more of the problem than she wants to admit to herself. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 03:38 AM |
| 3 | If the men of tomorrow are to respect women, parents have to teach it | Saima Mir | OpinionFrom what I've seen, men respect women more than the other way around. I certainly hear dumb, immature comments from men, but I've never seen the virulent hatred towards the opposite sex; I've only ever heard that from women. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/18 09:21 PM |
| 3 | I am alone in the activism for men's rights at my school.I've done so many times, and the only thing I accomplish is upsetting her. And she's not as bad as most feminists I've encountered in my life. It doesn't matter what I quote, how much I back it up, how I mention it; she just won't see it. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/18 08:54 PM |
| 2 | The Future that Feminists want is here.I've read stories like this and it never ceases to amaze me how little kids who, say, kiss a classmate on the cheek are treated as budding sexual predators. "It's harmless now, but it could be rape when he gets a little older, so we need to teach these kids a message early." If a grade schooler can get that kind of moronic treatment from feminists, what chance does an adult man have? | /r/MensRights | 30/10/18 03:50 PM |
| 5 | I am alone in the activism for men's rights at my school.I admit, at that age, I would probably have disagreed with you and done so in a rather vicious way. To be blunt, supporting Men's Rights is not going to win you any friends and is likely to get you some enemies. I'm something of a closeted supporter myself. Even my family doesn't know; rather difficult to speak out when my mother is a feminist. You're going to have to be at least somewhat aggressive. It's not my preferred approach, but being gentle doesn't make it easier to believe; it makes it … | /r/MensRights | 30/10/18 03:47 PM |
| 1 | Progress at schoolI expect it varies, depending on where you live. I try to spread awareness of the problem, albeit cautiously. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/18 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Progress at schoolI don't know. I've been surrounded by it for as long as I can remember. It was why I used to be a male feminist. A large part of it is that it's difficult for a lot of people to see. Things may have changed a little in the past decade. People are starting to acknowledge the problem, but there's still a long way to go. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/18 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Progress at schoolNo, I live in California. This started over a decade ago, but far as I can see, nothing had changed. I looked up our domestic violence program; doesn't mention men at all. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/18 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Progress at schoolNope, that one was in one of my high school textbooks. Another one was where the student teacher gave a lecture to the female students about how to be utterly paranoid. Every man is a potential rapist, every date is dangerous, watch him every moment; for the guys, it was being told that rape was bad and not to do it. Same thing in college, and we were told that having sex with a woman who drank alcohol was rape as well. I remember watching a parody of this that said: "Ladies, look to your left. … | /r/MensRights | 27/10/18 03:50 AM |
| 15 | Men bad, women innocent. Ah, another intelligent piece of social commentary from TwoX. Powerful, Isn’t it?Men are far more likely to be assaulted, beaten, robbed, and killed out on the street than women are. They're just as likely to be a victim of domestic abuse, with next to no resources available. One more thing: perception doesn't always equal reality. Women may feel more afraid, but they're less likely to be victims overall. | /r/MensRights | 26/10/18 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Progress at schoolI'll give an example of what I was taught in school, being forced to sit through one of those seminars. In the book we were given for it, we have a guy that thinks: "Oh, I didn't know that if I force a women onto the bed, tear her clothes off, and ignore her pleas to stop, that I was committing rape!" I only wish I was kidding about this. It's not the only example, but it's one of the most egregious. | /r/MensRights | 26/10/18 01:32 AM |
| 1 | A man ahead of his time...Let me know when it's posted. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/18 12:04 PM |
| 1 | Progress at schoolI haven't seen anything change since I graduated. Looking back, it's hard to believe the kind of crap they taught us when it came to feminism. Maybe I'm just being too cynical, but I've become accustomed to this blind spot we have. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/18 03:45 AM |
| 2 | A man ahead of his time...Sure, you can use this for the website. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/18 10:43 PM |
| -3 | Sarah Silverman reveals that Louis C.K. masturbated in front of her with her consent. The behavior is not one that I would engage in, but it shows that what constitutes consent differs from person, and that you can’t always tell when yes means yes.He's a pig, certainly. But there's a difference between that and a predator; it isn't like he did it without permission. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/18 09:25 AM |
| 13 | Female sex offenders are more common than you think, reveals studyExcept feminists, more than every other group, work to silence male victims. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/18 01:29 AM |
| 14 | Porn is as 'harmful as cigarettes' and must be treated as a major health crisis with new restrictions on social media, MPS warn. This is all about feminists and a feminist government controlling men.Well, as a card-carrying member of the Patriarchy, it's time to watch more porn! | /r/MensRights | 23/10/18 10:20 AM |
| 1 | There Is No War on Men (But Maybe There Should Be?)Ok; want me to send it directly to the site or simply post it on here and have you copy it there? | /r/MensRights | 21/10/18 04:28 PM |
| 1 | There Is No War on Men (But Maybe There Should Be?)I'll let you know when I've got it written; it's still just brainstorming right now. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/18 12:42 PM |
| 2 | There Is No War on Men (But Maybe There Should Be?)Yeah, it's not an easy one to mention. The problem is that what is being taught is primarily "Teach men not to rape" and "Every man is a potential rapist". | /r/MensRights | 19/10/18 12:19 PM |
| 2 | Female Florida middle school teacher, 27, pleads guilty to sending nude photos and having sex with her 14-year-old student and will face a minimum of five years in prison. How long in prison if this had been a male teacher and a female student.If this was a male teacher, we'd be ready to hang him from a lamppost. Frankly, I'm amazed she's getting five years. A lot of the time, they don't serve a day in jail. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/18 09:09 AM |
| 1 | There Is No War on Men (But Maybe There Should Be?)Another idea I had, though I'm unsure as to whether or not it would fit the website, is how to actually reduce the rape rate. Almost everything else we hear right now is bull. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/18 08:57 AM |
| 1 | There Is No War on Men (But Maybe There Should Be?)Sure, do you have a specific topic or do you have one already? | /r/MensRights | 17/10/18 10:03 PM |
| 2 | There Is No War on Men (But Maybe There Should Be?)Go right ahead. We need to give far better advice, advice that isn't tainted by feminist bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/18 08:39 AM |
| 2 | There Is No War on Men (But Maybe There Should Be?)Btw, if that number was correct, that would mean that only 1,800 people go to prison for rape every year. Considerably fewer even, if you take into account multiple offenses. There are about 160,000 in the United States serving prison time for sexual offenses, with a little over half there for rape. So to make it simple, I'll say 80,000. The average they end up serving is around 6 years, 60% of their sentence. So let's say 13,500 people go to prison for rape every year. It would still mean many … | /r/MensRights | 15/10/18 08:11 PM |
| 3 | I am woman and I am offended by this #metoo & Believe the woman campaign. What do you say ? Also posted this on /askfeminists . I wanted to see mensrights perspective tooMore and more of them are following the Mike Pence Rule. He might do so for religious reasons, but now men are adopting it just to protect themselves. It doesn't matter if you're not formally punished; once that accusation is made, your reputation is in tatters. I've been accused of harassment more than once because I complimented and on once occasion, flirted with a woman. Never been vulgar, never groped a woman or anything like that. I ended up getting fired just for being friendly to a female… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/18 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Why so many male feminists?Sure, you can post it. There is one thing I forgot to mention in the post: many of them were raised by feminist mothers and often single mothers. My own mom is a feminist, though thankfully not a crazy one. Wanted to point out there's more reason towards being a male feminist than just a desire to get laid. Oh, and when you do, send me the link, please. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/18 09:08 PM |
| 1 | I was molested a nine (male) be a 20 yr old. I’ve just started having to deal with it now.Sadly, because society as a whole doesn't give a shit. I know it's not what you wanted to hear, but I've never been good at white lies. The response to #mentoo #himtoo has generally been "Shut the fuck up!" "This doesn't happen to men!" I'm sorry for what happened to you, and the blindness we have towards female predators only makes it worse. All I can truly say is that you aren't alone. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/18 01:03 AM |
| 7 | Male rape victim sharing his experiencesMy point exactly. And there are the constant arguments that we should be gentler with female prisons because after all, she had a bad childhood. A lot of the time, it's even true: many were raped, abused, molested. But the same is true of male prisoners, yet it's not seen as a mitigating factor. My dad spent 37 years as a probation officer and many of the people he had to interview had horrible home lives, men and women both. It's pretty common among criminals. If we're indifferent when men are … | /r/MensRights | 11/10/18 12:08 AM |
| 7 | Male rape victim sharing his experiencesMuch of the time, we don't even take it seriously when a guy is raped by another man, let alone a woman. Look at our response to prison rape, for example: we laugh and say they're getting what they deserve. We're outraged when it happens to female inmates, but you can just hear the crickets chirping on male ones. I remember reading an answer on Quora with someone talking about supporting rape victims in forums designed for that purpose. One of the people she talked to said something like: ""I'm … | /r/MensRights | 10/10/18 11:49 PM |
| 24 | I'm a girl who studies stats and this infuriates me.Lies, damned lies, and statistics. What they define as sexual assault is just about anything. If it's a pat on the butt or an asshole groping you... they're wrong, but they don't belong in the same category as rape/attempted rape. That's how they get that one in four number. And we don't know how many men are falsely accused of rape, considering that most incidents don't get much publicity. It's looking like it's not as rare as we once believed it was. Nobody has a definite number on it, conside… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/18 11:37 PM |
| 6 | Imagine how much different this would be if genders were swappedOk, that's messed up. What's the bet she won't face any consequences for this? | /r/MensRights | 10/10/18 01:57 AM |
| 2 | False sex assault reports not as rare as reported, studies sayThe 6-8% false accusation rate, averaging out the different reports, is how many are PROVEN false. There are a lot of cases where you simply don't know if she is telling the truth or not. Alleged rapes can be reported weeks, months, even years later, long after any forensic evidence had faded. So if all you have is he said- she said, how do you prove otherwise? How do you prove he's guilty of rape? Or how do you prove he's innocent and she's either lying or mistaken? A significant number of rape… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/18 01:27 PM |
| 1 | I have never met a strong feminist. Ive met strong women. And feminists are nothing like themI'm actually willing to listen to their stuff, even if I don't necessarily agree with it. They're at least willing to acknowledge that men and boys are suffering. The problem is that many look at them and say: "That's your typical feminist"; they're not. In fact, they've been disavowed, as are any so-called "equity feminists" who mention male issues. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/18 01:19 PM |
| 1 | False rape accusations are extremely rare. When we paint a narrative of always looking to doubt a victim, we stand in the way of the path of justice.Well, we know the solution to this, don't we? Whenever an accusation's made, just arrest the man. All that's needed is her word; we don't need corroborating evidence. And it should be enough to put the man behind bars for decades. False allegations are so rare as to hardly be worth considering. It's not like we have to worry about women lying for various reasons... or cases of mistaken identity, which can be even worse. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/18 12:20 PM |
| 3 | Warren Farrell in USA Today: Transform #MeToo monologue into a #MeToo dialogueThat's not going to happen. It's turned into a weapon and I doubt we've seen the worst of the consequences. Now that its failed to work on Kavanaugh, they're likely to go even farther off the deep end. College campuses were a dress rehearsal and this was an attempt to spread it to the national stage. Not that long ago, I didn't take the efforts to lower the burden of proof in sexual assault cases seriously. Innocent until proven guilty is a fundamental right and only the fringe could go along wi… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/18 12:11 PM |
| 20 | I've seen some absurd levels of cognitive dissonance and deliberate ignorance from feminists but I think this just summed all of it up in one comic.If a woman accuses you, you're guilty. If you respond with anger... well, that just proves how guilty you are. Nobody would be angry if they were actually innocent! If you respond calmly, you clearly have no remorse over what you did. Guilty! | /r/MensRights | 09/10/18 11:07 AM |
| 2 | Serious Question: Can someone explain to me how a male can get this stupid and self-loathing? (Yes, it's Will Wheaton again)I'd say self-loathing men like him are generally liberal. Conservatives are more likely to say: "Be a man and suck it up!" but they generally don't have the same disgust for men and masculinity. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/18 10:50 AM |
| 6 | Serious Question: Can someone explain to me how a male can get this stupid and self-loathing? (Yes, it's Will Wheaton again)I was never this bad, but I used to hold this kind of attitude. I believe that women were superior, women were kinder and smarter, and men were the abusers. It was a message I received everywhere, and what I was taught in school was the victim/oppressor narrative. I never had any reason to question it, so it's actually pretty easy for people who don't know better to believe this kind of thing. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/18 11:29 PM |
| 9 | High school girls admitted to targeting and falsely accusing a boy of sexual assault because they 'just don't like him'. Boy was fired from his job, forced to serve time in a juvenile detention facility, is now home-schooled and suffers psychological trauma. School officials just didn’t care.Had this happen to me in high school a couple times. I tried to flirt and the girls in question freaked. I was never vulgar, never made any move; it was a single compliment and in one case, it was because she was upset and I was trying to cheer her up. When I was confronted, they didn't ask my side of the story. They didn't care; that was made clear. I was threatened with dire consequences, being told that I was scaring the women at my school. I was what you would describe as a feminist at the t… | /r/MensRights | 06/10/18 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Are young men in America scared? "When the #MeToo movement started a year ago, I thought it could only be a net gain. But too many mess-ups have happened. I think it's wrong that it has moved away from a legal court and into a court of public opinion,"It's the natural result when you have people thinking that "Due Process" and "Presumption of Innocence" are obstacles to justice. A woman's word should be all it takes to arrest and imprison someone. I would have laughed at things going that far a couple years ago. I'm not so sure anymore. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/18 07:16 AM |
| 12 | "Men can't even tell you what they do to prevent being raped. Women can fill notebooks with it."I saw this all over social media. I thought about responding to it, but a couple of them were friends of a relative, so I refrained. Sometimes, I still think I should have said something to that garbage. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/18 06:47 AM |
| 3 | White knight wants to repeal the concept of innocent until proven guilty, attempts to justify himself.I hear this kind of attitude frequently: seeing presumption of innocence and due process as an obstacle to justice. We saw this play out in college campuses and now it's moving to the national stage. Any accusation now can lead to a prison sentence or at least have your life ruined. How long it is going to be before some states start changing laws in that direction? The Mike Pence rule is looking better every day. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/18 06:24 AM |
| 9 | The Lasting Impressions. Cassie Jaye Came Expecting To Dissect The Men's Rights Movement. Three Years On, She's Still Having To Dissect The Truth That She Found About Feminism.It isn't easy turning your back on something that you've believed your whole life and played an important role in it. There are many others who would not have done what she did, and would instead have edited everything to make the MRM look like a group of monsters. Credit where it's due. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/18 06:14 AM |
| 2 | President of the United States: ‘Very scary time for young men in America’I agree. People may laugh at me and think I'm paranoid for being unwilling to flirt with or compliment women. Considering that I've had my reputation destroyed multiple times and the current hysteria we're living in, I don't consider my concern to be unfounded. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/18 07:13 AM |
| 3 | Men need to start coming forward about the women who’ve abused them sexually. We’ve kept our gentleman’s agreement long enough. Clearly it doesn’t mean anything.At a minimum, we'd have to dismantle or at least weaken identity politics. It just seems like they're an unstoppable force, steamrolling over anything that tries to stop them. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/18 06:17 PM |
| 6 | Men need to start coming forward about the women who’ve abused them sexually. We’ve kept our gentleman’s agreement long enough. Clearly it doesn’t mean anything.I'm seeing posts all over social media claiming that men don't understand, they don't care what women go through, they need to develop more empathy for women, etc. Even men who have wives and daughters "don't understand". It's amazing just how blind people are to the other side. We often don't take it seriously when there's a male perpetrator, let alone a female one. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/18 05:32 PM |
| 2 | How can i help in the movement?(outside of slacktivism)Just raising awareness is important. Even this isn't easy and I guarantee at least a few people will cuss at you for it, but it's essential. Many people do notice problems facing boys; it's just that few of them have managed to put all the puzzle pieces together. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/18 09:08 AM |
| 2 | I guess they haven’t considered that with this sort of shit, we’re about to have a Supreme Court justice who will be INCREDIBLY sympathetic to the dangers of false rape allegations.It doesn't matter if he's confirmed or not at this point: his reputation has been destroyed. Once an accusation is made, there's no going back. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/18 11:02 PM |
| 2 | This jackass wants all women to be believed and people who don’t believe accusations to be thrown in jail for sexism and misogynyI'd like to think this is nothing more than satire, but there are people in the world that are really this stupid. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/18 09:26 AM |
| 4 | Elizabeth Smart's female kidnapper released from prison. Do you think this would happen to a man?The fact he's still in prison should give the answer to that question. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/18 10:45 PM |
| 3 | As a mom, daughter, sister, otherwise relative, friend, and just a human being, this terrifies me. We must protect our boys!Even seeing their son accused doesn't necessarily mean it'll motivate them to do something. What I was told is: "Yes, I know you're angry, but you can't judge every woman based on the actions of a few." | /r/MensRights | 19/09/18 10:37 PM |
| 6 | Joe Biden: Prominent Men Accused Of Rape Should Be Presumed Guilty Until Proven InnocentHmm... does that include Bill Clinton? | /r/MensRights | 19/09/18 11:39 AM |
| 2 | What If It Was Your Son?Perhaps not, but I'm saying it would help her credibility. Having a single accuser making accusations about something that happened 35 years ago is something that is extremely difficult to prove or disprove. Actually, most of them do it repeatedly when it comes sexual harassment. And I'm talking about genuine predators, not cases where a clumsy flirtation attempt is made, or there's a miscommunication between two people. Most rapists are repeat offenders as well, making up something like 90% of … | /r/MensRights | 19/09/18 12:14 AM |
| 3 | What If It Was Your Son?I expect it was a deliberate strategy and she had to have known that Feinstein would release it eventually. I never claimed it was impossible, but I haven't heard enough evidence to be convinced of it. These kinds of accusation are little more than a weapon; the Mike Pence rule is looking better every day. If he's innocent, he's being denied a lot more than simply being on the Supreme Court. He's being slandered nationwide and considered a sexual predator, which has very serious consequences. Wi… | /r/MensRights | 19/09/18 12:00 AM |
| 8 | Are All Men Pedophiles? (2013) - IMDb - Maybe It's Time For A Remake, "Are All Female Teachers Pedophiles?".No, but we're considered pedophiles if we work with children, hence why most teachers are male. My Dad worked in a daycare center back in the 1970s. He mentioned that they took precautions, he was never alone with the children, but there wasn't the sheer paranoia there is now. At the end of the story, he admitted that he'd never do it today. Until you get into high school now, there are almost no male teachers. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/18 10:56 PM |
| 3 | What If It Was Your Son?I'm not even close to convinced yet, or even convinced enough to oppose him. That doesn't make it impossible, but I consider it unlikely right now. I really question the timing; if this was so important, why sit on it until after the confirmation hearing? If he tried to rape a classmate, he should never be anywhere near the Supreme Court. The excuse given for why Feinstein didn't release it earlier is that she didn't want her to but... why would she give it to Feinstein in the first place?! What… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/18 10:53 PM |
| 13 | Two Former Kavanaugh Girlfriends Refute Claims That The 65 Women Who Supported Him No Longer DoThese sorts of accusations are becoming nothing more than a weapon. If a Republican is up for nomination or re-election, accuse him of something that may or may not have happened, going back as far as grade school. It doesn't even have to be true; once it's out there, it's almost impossible to prove a negative. And the Republicans will do the same thing, not knowing or not caring how much damage it causes. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/18 12:37 PM |
| 13 | Men are told to “Man up” or “grow a pair” but when it happens to women they get all the attention they want.And it isn't just men who enforce it. I've been told to "man up" more often from women than I have from men. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/18 12:32 PM |
| 1 | My paraphrasing of this article, "All men will hurt you and trap you so don't trust any of them." (link in comments)There's a difference between showing some caution, which is smart no matter who you are, and being completely paranoid. Of course, saying women should take any steps to stay safe is called "Victim Blaming" | /r/MensRights | 13/09/18 10:01 PM |
| 3 | It’s quite interesting how in this ‘comic’ they only point at the women’s side of the statistics, this shows how much statistics can change a viewSo how many men have been killed in Peru last year? I would expect the number to be vastly larger. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/18 09:59 PM |
| 1 | The word you're looking for is 'Rape'No matter what, they just can't say the word "rape" when it's a woman. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/18 07:24 PM |
| 18 | Police ignore male victim of abuse, because perpetrator was female. She later kills him after being empowered to commit violence against men.This is precisely why abused men do not go to the police: they're dismissed when they speak up. Worse, a man is the one more likely to be arrested if he calls for help during a domestic disturbance. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/18 08:50 AM |
| 1 | Is Patriarchy an evil in society? Are men supposed to submit to women now?The term Patriarchy means nothing. Frankly, it means whatever the hell the individual mentioning it wants it to women. To some advocates, Patriarchy is to feminism what Satan is for devout Christians: responsible for all the maladies and problems in the world. When it comes to male issues, any of them, patriarchy is the problem; feminism is the solution. I've seen countless descriptions of this on Quora, the mainstream media, feminist forums, women's magazines... | /r/MensRights | 09/09/18 09:46 PM |
| 3 | The Men’s Rights Movement Now Has Its Own Law FirmThat's excellent news. I'm glad to see that things are beginning to change. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/18 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Mommy Nearest; When a mother sexually abuses her son.It's good to know this is finally starting to get some mainstream attention. Feminists claim that women are capable of doing anything a man is. And that's true... but that includes cruelty and violence, including sexual violence. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/18 07:18 AM |
| 18 | The Men’s Rights Movement Now Has Its Own Law FirmDefinitely a step in the right direction. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/18 02:59 AM |
| 44 | Serena accuses US Open umpire of sexismSo whenever an umpire makes a call that you don't like, it can't be motivated by anything other than sexism. Nice to know where we stand. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/18 12:57 AM |
| 3 | Yes, men can be sexually assaulted. Gender stereotypes make it hard to talk about.What makes it even harder are feminists claiming that female-on-male sexual assault doesn't happen or is so rare as to not even be worth considering. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/18 10:57 PM |
| 45 | "l am a human rights worker and activist. That means all rights of children. l cannot select one side and say 'l don't hear your cry'".The sad thing is that too many people have no trouble at all managing that. The problems of women and girls matter; the difficulties of men and boys don't. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/18 04:59 PM |
| 16 | Predator Asia Agento claims it was 17 year old Jimmy Bennett who sexually assaulted herThis means she's getting desperate. I'm sure her groupies will portray this as bravely speaking the truth once again, but more and more people are waking up to her bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/18 03:53 PM |
| 3 | There is a Men's Rights Film List over at IMDb. Which films are missing? The Films can be about Men's Rights, or in the story addressing Men's Rights issues such as Custody, Discrimination or even Prison Rape."Men don't tell" It's a lifetime movie about a man being battered by his wife. Far as I know, it's the only movie where you see a battered husband instead of a battered wife. When it came out in 1996, feminists were so outraged at this that they never ran it again. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/18 11:28 PM |
| 2 | Got Banned from r/feminism for posting this article, with just the title, no other commentary. "Tolerance" of feminismWell, that says a lot about them. Even for horrific crimes, I believe in the presumption of innocence. Posting something from FIRE might have pissed them off, but no matter where you sourced such information, it was going to rattle some cages. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/18 07:43 AM |
| 7 | Literally thought this was The Onion for a split second.Well, if she doesn't like it, she could always do my job, where you can be working outside all day when its 105-110 degrees. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/18 03:14 AM |
| 1 | They're now comparing Western Women to Muslim Women - and implying that Western Women have it worse. It's stupid. Sorry it isn't Archived, I couldn't do it.Yeah, could hardly believe my ears when I heard that. Usually what I hear from guys is that we ought to kill those people. People are cruel; no getting around that. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/18 04:52 PM |
| 1 | They're now comparing Western Women to Muslim Women - and implying that Western Women have it worse. It's stupid. Sorry it isn't Archived, I couldn't do it.Guys just beat the hell out of each other and get it out of their system. "Hell have no fury" is a statement with a considerable amount of truth attached to it. I saw plenty of it in school, and in life. Jaded as I am, I'm occasionally astonished as to how far some will go to get revenge. Only time I've ever heard a rape victim being mocked is from a woman towards a former friend; fell out over a guy. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/18 03:14 PM |
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