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Yeah, I agree with that to an extent. Cold approaches work if there’s actual progress & corrections being made from past mistakes. Going up 100 times & doing the same shit with minimal improvements won’t work, especially if there have been zero results from it. It will help a ton if a guy has barely any experience approaching girls, but there’s a law of diminishing returns when it comes to cold approaches. Eventually, you have to mix up the setting & methods used. Some guys get so worked up over…
/r/seduction03/11/24 06:55 AM
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You just need to play everything off as cool & tease a girl back in order to escalate some good banter. Maybe she kept shit testing you because your face might’ve told her that you’re getting a bit offended or taking things too seriously, who knows. Just keep practicing & you’ll naturally get better at it.
/r/seduction01/11/24 03:48 AM
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You’re not a bad looking guy, don’t be so harsh on yourself. Although, I’d shorten your hair a bit on the sides/back. The top is fine.
/r/seduction31/10/24 08:10 PM
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Exactly. You can be at the right place, dressed nicely, have a fresh haircut & approach a girl confidently with a smile & still can be rejected. It won’t matter what you say or how you say, they just won’t be into you. Girls have a type just as guys have a type. That doesn’t mean that they’re not willing to sway a little bit out of their comfort zone but if the attraction isn’t there at all, then it’s not your fault. That’s a part of the game that a lot of men have difficulty accepting. But who …
/r/seduction31/10/24 06:24 PM
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Believe me, it gets better. Be patient & give it time. Of course you’re sad & are feeling other emotions as well, that shit is completely normal, especially after putting in so much effort. I was in your shoes too & there are other people out there that will be going through this in the future too. Also, be kind to yourself with your words. You were “man enough” before, you just made some mistakes here or there because you didn’t know any better, that’s life. You can take accountability for some…
/r/seduction30/10/24 10:05 AM
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Exactly. If you don’t believe that you deserve speaking to them or that they deserve the chance to get to know you, then you’re right. If you believe that you deserve speaking to them & that they deserve a chance to get to know you, then you’re right.
/r/seduction30/10/24 01:26 AM
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Don’t even waste your energy with those girls. They’re there for attention & to boost their social media follower count. Small chance that they actually give a shit about finding a connection on there.
/r/seduction30/10/24 12:25 AM
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The outside world
/r/seduction29/10/24 11:51 PM
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I was in a pretty similar situation last year & your last 2 paragraphs really resonated with what I dealt with. I’ll just give a few tips for you for what has worked for me. Yes, I’m sure you made some mistakes but a relationship takes 2 sides to work. If you were the only one trying to keep shit alive then the other blame goes onto her. Some people just aren’t that compatible together after a couple of months or a few years, that’s just life. Don’t try to over-analyze & figure out the exact rea…
/r/seduction29/10/24 09:33 PM
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When they pullback, don’t pull forward. Even if she pulls completely back & let’s you go, don’t chase her as it will only show that you’re needy (it won’t fix anything) & it will make you feel like shit after. Who knows what is on her mind but it doesn’t matter. If she pulled back a little, then do the same & then go from there. Obviously, don’t suddenly pull back way too hard or she will sense something is off & will think you’re acting butthurt about it, but distance yourself a little too. Tha…
/r/seduction29/10/24 09:03 PM
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Sorry to be blunt with you bro but I’d move on. She directly told you that she isn’t comfortable with you flirting with her & just sees you as a “senior figure”. Maybe she’s still not past her last relationship or just isn’t that into you. It doesn’t matter. If a girl is rejecting your romantic or sexual advantages, you back off & move on. Don’t continue pursuing or trying because it would just be wasted efforts. Also, continually talking to her for weeks without asking her out sooner didn’t do …
/r/seduction29/10/24 08:46 PM
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There isn’t a correlation, I don’t think & Im just using 2 random examples. You can also have scenarios where Bob continues doing well after college & becomes the CEO of a large company or Alex continues being a loser for the rest of his life. It all just comes down to their hard work & attitude. Although, I would say that if someone has had a great successful life early on then they’re more likely to become complacent, as opposed to someone who is still incredibly motivated to “make up for the …
/r/seduction29/10/24 02:54 PM
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Exactly. The only time I ever double/text anymore is if our planning was a bit messy & I want to plan something official. I guess another case would be a conversation that completely fizzled out & I want to initiate a date. Otherwise, I don’t even bother anymore. Even if I do double text, I usually will do it because I have nothing to lose because by that point I couldn’t care less if they agree or not. That’s why it’s best to wait 1-2 weeks & talk/go on dates with other people in between. There…
/r/seduction29/10/24 12:38 AM
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I’d cut your losses by accepting this as a done deal. It seems like she might’ve liked you a little bit but maybe didn’t feel a lot of chemistry with you, or only has a low/moderate amount of interest in you. The fact that she ignored you & left you on read says it all. I wouldn’t look much more into it. Women always go through random shit & their emotions are all over the place so trying to over-analyze this is pointless. Now, if you want to ask her out in a week then go ahead. Just don’t bring…
/r/seduction28/10/24 11:47 PM
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I’d argue for most men on here it would be to work on their inner-game & to not take life too seriously. So many guys get worked over a rejection, or text messages, or dates. Just have fun & be confident in yourself. Anytime that you feel the rush to do something impulsive it’s probably due to anxiety or some type of insecurity. So work on that first & then just go with the flow of life.
/r/seduction28/10/24 11:39 PM
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They’re seeking some reassurance but don’t completely flip the script either, or else it’ll seem desperate or fake.
/r/seduction28/10/24 11:36 PM
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Yes but the range all depends on attitude, genetics & lifestyle. If we’re speaking about physical peak, such as their looks, then for most men it’ll be anywhere from the age of 20 to 35. Otherwise, when it comes to their quality of life then it depends on what they’ve built & how much effort they’re putting into themselves, as a whole. Let’s take 2 guys for example, Bob & Alex. Bob: Was the captain of his college football team. Got with every girl in college. Was very social & did well in school…
/r/seduction28/10/24 04:29 PM
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Haha I gotchya buddy
/r/seduction28/10/24 03:38 PM
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When it comes to setting up follow-up dates, it’s best to be direct but also allow the girl a little bit of flexibility to choose which days works better. This will also allow you to see if she’s serious about seeing you or if you’re wasting your time & should probably move on. One mistake would be to put the ball entirely in her court by saying something like, “Lmk when you’re free & when & where you wanna hangout”. This can work if a girl really likes you.. but oftentimes it rarely works. It c…
/r/seduction28/10/24 02:55 PM
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I get that but most people are naturally like that anyways. Part of it is that subconsciously some girls don’t even know what made a man charm them. They can probably point to a few things like, “Oh he was good looking & made me feel good” but even then they might struggle to break down everything that he did right. For instance, if a girl likes a guy & suddenly he disappears on her for a day, she’ll start to wonder about it & it might cause her to like him even more. So she won’t tell a guy, “Y…
/r/seduction28/10/24 01:57 PM
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Asking a girl who isn’t interested in you in giving you constructive feedback is pointless. They want to be nice so they’ll sugarcoat around the truth because they don’t want to offend you. It’s like going to an extremely ugly person & pointing out every physical detail that makes them ugly. Most people would leave out a few details here or there in order to be nice, because they themselves don’t want to feel like an asshole. Does a new fisherman go for advice on how to catch fish to an experien…
/r/seduction28/10/24 03:39 AM
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It depends where you met them because this can affect the expiration of a connection. For instance if it’s a girl that you met at a club who’s only in town for a trip, then she probably won’t care anymore if you text & ask her out in a week. But, you also don’t want to ask way too quickly unless you guys flirted the idea of a date during your conversation. Either way, I usually stick to anywhere from 1 hour to 2 days. If we think about it, if a girl truly liked you & is interested in seeing you …
/r/seduction28/10/24 02:23 AM
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You have a pretty good advantage because most women are generally attracted to a guy that looks like a player. Women might assume that because of your good looks, you must be getting a lot of attention from other girls & are likely just using them for sex, or moving on quickly between each one.. since you have the options. It’s a backhanded compliment but you shouldn’t care too much about it, use it to your advantage. It’s a great advantage. A new girl just doesn’t want to be hurt by you so as l…
/r/seduction28/10/24 01:25 AM
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Yeah, some people are naturally better at day game before transitioning into night game & for others it’s vice versa. The best approach is to continue approaching until those reps gradually add up to more & more success.
/r/seduction27/10/24 08:31 PM
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Exactly, if you come directly from the side then they still might not see you from their peripheral vision. Running slightly ahead or coming from a diagonal (if approaching from the front) works best
/r/seduction27/10/24 05:00 PM
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Well you’re basically in between a rock & a hard place here. On one end you’re anti-indirect game nowadays for whatever reasons but on the other cold approach for you seems pointless bc you don’t yourself succeeding. You just need to switch something up. If you keep doing what you’ve done then you’ll keep getting the same types of results. It’s either you bite your tongue & go for the cold approach or go back to some indirect approach. Part of why you maybe don’t want to go back to indirect is t…
/r/seduction27/10/24 03:33 PM
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Then it will have to become indirect & Id start off slower. Instead of you’re cute, just start with an engaging conversation & build up from there. But, eventually you’ll need to get their number or something if it isn’t someone who you see very often, otherwise they’ll just assume you want to be friends & that’s all.
/r/seduction27/10/24 02:30 PM
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Okay and? This still stirs around the fear of rejection & lack of confidence because you’re telling yourself that you can’t succeed unless you’re so charming or 10/10 in attractiveness that you can succeed under the worst circumstances. That shit doesn’t happen. Even if a guy is good looking he can still be incredibly socially awkward or not a woman’s type. Some guys that are incredibly confident still get rejected every now & then, they just play it off better. Hell, some people are so incredib…
/r/seduction27/10/24 05:57 AM
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If looks didn’t bother you then you’d approach anyways, knowing that looks aren’t the end all be all for every single woman. Do looks help? Sure they do. But don’t mean everything. You can accept yourself for who you are, even if you or everyone considers you an average looking man & still succeed. I think the bigger issue here is that you fear rejection due to comparing yourself to others too much. You fear that you’re not good enough & are worried about what women will think of you. That is st…
/r/seduction27/10/24 05:20 AM
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I’m just using that as an example, I’m not saying that your first line should be “Hey I think you’re cute, can I get your number?”. Obviously you want to mention that or show your romantic intent for her, during the conversation, but plenty of girls want to be approached by a confident man. Most guys just don’t have the balls to do it. You need to build up that confidence. You’re only mid if you believe that you’re mid. You’re probably basing it around some insecurity such as looks, your past da…
/r/seduction27/10/24 04:37 AM
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Older women know all the bullshit games so go approach them confidentially & then compliment them. Then hold your frame if they test you with a line like “I’m probably too old for you” or “that’s cute, you’re probably a little too young for me.” They’re looking to see if you’re truly mature & don’t care about the age gap or are you just trying to wow them with a predictable pick-up line.
/r/seduction27/10/24 04:31 AM
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Exactly. Getting a number from a club & meeting up with a girl again is like running into a random old friend of yours 10 years after high school. You guys are not seeing each other again after that, even if you both say that you plan to, but it’s fun IN THE MOMENT.
/r/seduction27/10/24 04:23 AM
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What’s so hard about going out alone? Do you need to be with a group of people to approach a girl at a gym or at a coffee shop or at a store? If your answer or anyone else’s answer to that is, “oh well women don’t want to be approached there”, then get that shit out of your head. As long as you’re not cornering them or approaching them from behind like a creep, you can approach girls just about anywhere & gauge their level of interested 1-2 mins into a conversation. They’re not going to call the…
/r/seduction27/10/24 04:20 AM
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Congratulations. Keep it going & it’s 60+ dates per year. Most guys on here need to learn how to be glass half-full & not glass half-empty.
/r/seduction27/10/24 03:51 AM
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Exactly. So many guys praise getting numbers as the ultimate end game. Numbers don’t mean shit if you barely built any chemistry with a girl & if she only gave them to you because she wanted to be nice. I’d rather get rejected straight to my face than to get a pity number that won’t go anywhere down the line.
/r/seduction27/10/24 03:48 AM
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You probably come off as “too scripted” or not authentic enough, especially if you’re asking for their number within 1 minute. Mix in some potential lack of confidence or a hint of neediness (where you need to prove it yourself) & women can pick up on that. The indirect approach worked better for you because you’re able to maintain a cool, fun conversation without showing instant desperation. It also probably helped you improve the overall vibe that you give off & allowed you to build some rappo…
/r/seduction27/10/24 03:45 AM
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Stop overthinking it. Also don’t make the assumption that “she probably is done having kids” or that “you think you’re getting too old”. Maybe she wants more & idk why you’re telling yourself that you’re too old for them. Anyways, that’s between you guys & your own personal preference but I wouldn’t overthink everything else. At that point you either get a hotel, do it somewhere like a car which has pros & cons or you do it when one of you doesn’t have people around. Otherwise, someone has to mo…
/r/seduction27/10/24 01:36 AM
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Exactly.
/r/seduction26/10/24 10:22 PM
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Get out of your comfort zone by starting small. If you’re at a party or social event then talk to the nearest person next to you. If you easily get intimidated by some people then start with the least intimidating person & build from there. You’ll find that it gets easier the more you do it. Also, talk to literally anyone. Talk to random men, talk to older women, ask random people questions, compliment random people, just do anything that gets you engaging with others. Eventually you’ll see that…
/r/seduction26/10/24 09:52 PM
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If you aren’t at least a tiny bit excited towards these dates then you’re way too focused on getting laid & not as focused on having fun. At the end of the day, dates are meant to be fun & you should enjoy having conversations with the women that you’re seeing. If you’re just going into auto-pilot mode then they can sense this & then your date just doesn’t stand out to them.. EVEN IF YOU KISSED. Add a little bit of emotion, change up the setting, mix in some humor or unique topics, you need to s…
/r/seduction26/10/24 09:39 PM
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If the parties aren’t happening around u then u have to go find them. Unless you live in the middle of a desert, there will be meetup events happening around u, especially if it’s the weekend. As far as not approaching women at different places.. look.. u can technically approach a girl anywhere it’s just about how u do it & the timing. As long as u don’t corner a girl somewhere & make her feel uncomfortable with ur approach, saying hello & escalating indirectly is a good way to gauge a girl’s i…
/r/seduction26/10/24 08:28 PM
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Sometimes. Beginners are more likely to get rejected & those with a lot more experience will be less likely. But it’s still a part of the game. Rejection still happens to everyone
/r/seduction26/10/24 06:19 PM
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It’s easier to tell others what to do than it is to do it yourself. It’s the same in other industries. Fake gurus.
/r/seduction26/10/24 05:43 AM
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Yeah that’s a fair point & it makes sense. I don’t think I ever gave her a sense of reassurance. Even at the end of the date, I left it with a giant question mark of if we’ll see each other again. I have the tendency to act a bit cold or distant at times because I’ve been too needy in the past. I guess I was waiting for her to follow up because I’m used to girls being the ones to text me right away after a first date, especially if they’re infatuated by me. She’s a bit harder to read but then ag…
/r/seduction25/10/24 10:47 PM
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I did ask & what I mean by matching energy is that I’m not going to overly pursue if she’s playing hard to get. The last thing that I want is to continue chasing harder.
/r/seduction25/10/24 09:40 PM
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Yeah, I figured I have nothing to lose here so I went & asked her out. It beats waiting another week. I often gauge a woman’s interest by our vibe after the 1st date & this one is up in the air, so we’ll see.
/r/seduction25/10/24 08:40 PM
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Exactly. A girl that’s too comfortable talking about sex, way too soon, can be a great sign or a bad sign. The best approach is to escalate by including yourself in that conversation with her to see how she reacts. If she can’t at least flirt & talk about how she’d handle you in bed, then she’s probably not picturing it & it won’t happen in person.
/r/seduction25/10/24 08:18 PM
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I wasn’t intentionally playing stupid games but I guess I was trying to read her vibe & go from there. We have barely messaged each other since, so I was just matching her energy. Although yeah I have the habit of overthinking at times.
/r/seduction25/10/24 08:10 PM
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I haven’t asked directly. I hinted at it, saying something like “We’ll see how you behave during the 2nd one” but she brushed that off & never addressed that message. She also hasn’t brought it up again or said anything along the lines of, “I really enjoyed our first date”. Then again neither have I. I’m not sure if I’m sending her mixed signals but she hasn’t replied to me so haven’t said anything since.
/r/seduction25/10/24 08:08 PM
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Exactly. Even if they’re making it up, who gives a fuck. I know some guys will say, “Well maybe that’s just a shit test, just reply with something clever to keep it going”, but 99% of them time it won’t change anything. Think about, if she was willing to cheat & found you attractive, even if she had a boyfriend, she would not bring that up within the first minute.
/r/seduction25/10/24 07:08 PM
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There is absolutely zero to gain from continually hitting up a girl, even if it’s to check in on her feelings, especially if she’s telling you that she needs some space. It literally does not matter the reason. It can be over anything. It could be because of actual personal things or maybe she needs some time to figure out how she feels about you. Once you say something like, “Alright I’m here for you if anything” or something like that, that’s it. The ball is in her court. You guys aren’t even …
/r/seduction25/10/24 07:01 PM
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It can work but usually it’s not a super high success rate, if you don’t build up the convo first imo. My best closes have been after having a nice conversation with a girl for a few minutes & then asking for her number or if she wants my number. If you just approach & ask right away then they might agree if they find you really attractive but they don’t know anything else about you, which can make them feel hesitant
/r/seduction24/10/24 07:58 PM
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Haha yeah exactly, majority is a shit fest. 9/10 times girls who I met through OLD looked 1 or 2 points lower in attraction than what I imagined they would be. I’ve also had girls that I’ve approached in person that I recognized from OLD & it went way better that way. These are also women who have flaked on me before or who never responded to a message of mine etc. OLD is just looks & text game. That’s it. In-person they can see your confidence, social skills, smile, sense of humor, physical app…
/r/seduction24/10/24 07:34 PM
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Yeah I agree. It’s a bold move & can sometimes work if you’ve got the good looks but done incorrectly & it comes off as… weird or cringey. My best texting moves have been to build up some rapport, then distance a little… then send a picture of myself doing something interesting saying “Currently” or playfully teasing her. But don’t be sending selfies of you in your kitchen or anything like that bc it’ll usually make you look like a loner. Idk why but it gives some of them the ick. It’s the equiv…
/r/seduction24/10/24 06:14 PM
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There’s no point of lying here because if they like you & find you attractive then they won’t care if you’re 21 or whatever.
/r/seduction24/10/24 03:59 PM
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OLD just isn’t what it used to be. You can still have success but there are way more flakes, attention seekers & women that barely put any effort into anything. I know some guys will say, “Dude, you’re just whining bc you don’t get any matches, I still get laid.” I get plenty of matches myself & get laid too but the quality has significantly whereas the effort needed to play everything right has increased. If a guy is doing so well on dating apps where he can get with 7s or 8s or occasionally 9s…
/r/seduction24/10/24 02:48 PM
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Agreed. It’s nice to flirt & tease but being able to maintain a good conversation with any woman is incredibly important too. Eventually, even if you hookup with a girl or go on a few dates, you’re going to have to learn how to hold deeper conversations. It also helps in preventing us from resenting women, especially if we go through a couple of rejections. Remember that they’re human, not some alien. We shouldn’t fear having conversations with them.
/r/seduction24/10/24 04:08 AM
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You did well so far & it sounds like you’re reflecting on what worked or what didn’t. That’s how you build your XP. You’ll also notice that after the 1st approach it gets exponentially easier since you got it out of the way & you’ve got the momentum rollin’
/r/seduction24/10/24 02:38 AM
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Exactly. You naturally become this by practicing & doing it. Guys worry so much about memorizing the perfect pick-up lines or reading books on how to kiss etc. Those can help a tiny bit but the best experience is to just learn from doing & failing. There’s no man out there that hasn’t experienced at least some type of failure or setback with a girl. Even the best guys out there who have mastered seduction & approaching women will still slip up a tiny bit here or there, although it’s rarer. The m…
/r/seduction24/10/24 12:38 AM
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Yeah it’s so easy to fall into that trap if you truly don’t have an abundance mentality. All of the skewed Disney film love & soul mate talk is all bullshit. There is no “one” person that’s meant for you. There are only people that are more compatible or less compatible for you. If a man disagrees with that then it’s because they haven’t connected with enough women, otherwise they’d start to see how they’re more or less the same.
/r/seduction23/10/24 10:17 PM
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I love that idea of pointing & making a heart gesture move at the club. I need to use it someday haha
/r/seduction23/10/24 07:54 PM
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A woman should be talking majority of the time, especially if it’s about herself. So that’s fine. Just make sure that when you do talk, it’s either by asking her interesting questions, teasing her, flirting with her, making a joke, or very briefly telling an interesting story about yourself. Always escalate throughout your date or throughout the conversation. The topic that you discuss doesn’t matter, as long as the vibe is good & you’re escalating. You could be talking about flamingos but as lo…
/r/seduction23/10/24 07:22 PM
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Yeah, as long as you’re confident & are fun to be around then you really have nothing to worry about. Even if a girl ever brought up a question like, “Is this what you plan on doing forever?…” or something like that, then brush it off & say “maybe” or “yeah”. Then change the topic or flip it onto her & what she plans on doing with her career. If they keep pushing you about it or ever say something like, “oh I don’t like guys that work those types of jobs” or “ohh idk how I feel about you still w…
/r/seduction23/10/24 07:15 PM
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It’s normal to think about your future but you should never worry about “not being good enough” for a girl. You should be with a girl who accepts you for you, even with that job, and if she doesn’t then it’s her loss & you need to move on. You should also not care if you lose them for that reason because there’s a 99% chance that if you ever did, it wouldn’t be because of that. Act indifferent about it. You should worry more about who SHE is and what SHE has to offer for you.
/r/seduction23/10/24 06:46 PM
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Just ask here. Why does it need to be a private message
/r/seduction23/10/24 05:24 PM
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Exactly. It’s why a lot of guys wonder, “why did things go right in the beginning?” It’s because you had nothing to lose & you played it cool. You weren’t over-texting. You weren’t compromising anything for her. You were confident in your decisions & your actions. When a girl says, “I really just want a relationship, no more hook ups or situation ships”, I’d take that as a shit test. They’re testing to see how you react & if you’ll look to commit to her right away. There’s nothing wrong about sa…
/r/seduction23/10/24 01:53 PM
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Right now… I’d forget about her because you have a lot to learn. It’s possible to fix this situation but you’re in a pretty deep hole, especially since you didn’t escalate things with her during your last “date” together. 1: Stop caving to everything that a woman says in order to please her, or it comes off as being weak & that you’re putting her needs above your own. 2: Once you’ve made your romantic intentions clear, stop back-tracking them. You’re already in the lead. But, this doesn’t mean c…
/r/seduction23/10/24 03:19 AM
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You also can get away with being a lot more direct & more forward with them sooner vs than later. Obviously, escalation is important but due to the language barrier, if you say something very direct then they can interpret it however they wish. You’re less likely to come off as “pushy”. But obviously your body language & eye contact are important here.
/r/seduction23/10/24 02:16 AM
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Well, let’s hope that he’s able to keep enough of them with him in his tent to provide the warmth he needs.
/r/seduction23/10/24 01:31 AM
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Being wealthier helps a bit because it’s often seen as being successful & having a better lifestyle. This is also more desirable since the wealthier you are, the rarer it is & you’re biologically seen as a better provider. I agree with you that it isn’t completely necessary when it comes to seduction or attracting most women, as long as you play your cards right. That means being confident & not showing insecurity around your lack of wealth. But, there are limits to it. If you dress like a homel…
/r/seduction23/10/24 12:32 AM
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You’re welcome ☺️
/r/seduction23/10/24 12:03 AM
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Facts. If you need to hear compliments from a girl in order to seek reassurance about yourself, then you’re fucked. If their opinion of us matters more than our opinion of ourselves or if their emotions directly affect our emotions, then that’s the definition of emotional dependency.
/r/seduction22/10/24 08:50 PM
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I think you’re referring to pheromones & it’s a real thing. Sometimes, people just aren’t compatibles when it comes to other senses such as taste & smell.
/r/seduction22/10/24 12:02 PM
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You can’t continually put the ball in a woman’s court for scheduling a date. At first, it sounds like she was keeping you around as a maybe option for Friday. Calling her was pointless if she didn’t agree to a phone call earlier. Also asking her, “Is it ok if I call you on the phone?” is playing shit way too safe. Even during the call, you should’ve escalated with planning a date or AT LEAST got her schedule for the next week ahead. Small talk is pretty pointless here. After that you STOP. You d…
/r/seduction22/10/24 05:18 AM
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If you’ve given her your schedule beforehand, then there’s no reason to lie here. She might assume that you’re playing childish games, especially if she has a busy schedule. However, if she doesn’t know when you’re free, then I’d decline or at least say something like, “Did you mean Tuesday? Monday is tricky..” then see what she says. That’s why the best approach is to get their schedule first. Any girl that says something like, “idk my schedule” or “my schedule changes too much i’ll lyk”, is ba…
/r/seduction22/10/24 04:59 AM
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100% THIS. If there is no time, day & place then don’t even count it as a date. I’ve had countless of issues before because I thought that telling a girl “Yeah, let’s hang out Friday” counted as an actual, scheduled date. That could be fucking anything. They have their own schedules. They want to plan how long it will take to get ready. They want to plan how far away it is. What they think of that location. How they’re getting there, etc. If she can’t visualize these things ahead of time, then s…
/r/seduction22/10/24 04:46 AM
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I know exactly what you’re talking about… I had an ex fwb who had a good diet, always brushed her teeth, showered regularly, but sometimes when I kissed her it would be this odd taste in her mouth. Other times, when I sucked on her nipples it was also this really odd taste. At first I thought that it was my breath or maybe due to some medication that she was taking but she wasn’t taking anything & my mouth/teeth were always clean. Don’t even get me started about the time we did it while she was …
/r/seduction22/10/24 04:06 AM
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Agreed, the more random, the better. I once had a nice date with a girl where we randomly started talking about penguins vs. otters, then she explained to me how she would construct her essay after I told her to write about it. We never brought up that topic again & she never wrote anything, but occasionally I still tease her about it & that date still ended with her inviting me to come over lol. As long as it’s not a super weird or controversial topic, like how you’d play Hitler in a holocaust …
/r/seduction21/10/24 08:52 PM
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Thanks brother.
/r/seduction21/10/24 08:29 PM
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I appreciate the insight. Your last phrase is quite bold but that is a good tip. When do you usually time that comment about her being naked? You’re right, I play hard to get at times & display indifference but avoid complimenting them or taking notice of their beauty. I’ve acted too nice & needy on dates before so it could be an over-correction of mine. Then again, those days didn’t display enough sexual energy or escalation from me. I guess I’m trying to figure out the right balance of being i…
/r/seduction21/10/24 08:28 PM
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I’m glad that you have found this trick but it’s essentially escalating the conversation in a sexual direction, which can show them that you’re comfortable with being a sexual man. Also, being playful ties into having fun, imaginative conversations. Once you’ve tapping into a woman’s imagination & playful side, it’s very easy to escalate from that point on. I’ve experienced this success myself when it came to playfully teasing a girl that we’re an old married couple that’s on the brink of divorc…
/r/seduction21/10/24 07:45 PM
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Exactly & if your looks are so terrible that you feel that “your nose is holding you back” or whatever, then do something about it if you can, otherwise stop obsessing over what you can’t control. Hell, even if you get a nose job or another type of cosmetic procedure to improve your jaw or hair or whatever, you’ll still feel needy & insecure deep down. It’s all psychological. I remember when I had crooked yellow teeth, thinking that this was 1 of the main reasons why I’m struggling with women. G…
/r/seduction21/10/24 07:38 PM
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Awesome buddy. I’m glad that everything went according to script & that you enjoyed the date! Continue doing what you’ve been doing. The tests shouldn’t appear as often now but they still will pop their heads out every now & then. This isn’t to worry you, but it’s just here to remind you that as long as you maintain your frame & lead the way, you won’t have much else to worry about since you’re past the initial stages of seduction. Now it’s just about keeping the ball rollin’
/r/seduction21/10/24 03:18 PM
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100% agreed. Going with the flow & having 0 expectations is the definition of being indifferent. The more indifferent that we become, the less we’ll worry about what’s out of our control & the more we’ll enjoy the opportunities that come & surprise us.
/r/seduction21/10/24 02:06 AM
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Also to add to your point, sometimes rejection can hurt because we’re romanticizing an idea of who we think they probably are, even though there’s a 99% chance that they aren’t this person. Hell, even if they truly are this person, how do we even know if this is the person who’s right for us & if that’s who we truly want in life? That’s why you felt less interested in the women that you continually saw, because you learned more about who they really are. Therefore, worrying or feeling hurt by a …
/r/seduction21/10/24 02:04 AM
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Exactly, you worded it perfectly. We deal by rejection by NOT taking personally. The difference between taking a rejection personally vs not personally all comes down to choosing how it affects our ego. If you’re incredibly outcome dependent & base your entire self-worth on your last date or last approach, then you’ll deal with rejection poorly. If you go with the flow, accepting rejection as a part of life & that you’re still a pretty good guy after one, then you’ll deal with it correctly.
/r/seduction21/10/24 01:47 AM
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Attraction can grow but only if the other person is willing to give it enough time to see if it does For instance, if someone has a physical type that they’re attracted to & someone else doesn’t meet it, then they’ll either have to be open to changing their mind about what they like, or it’s a dealbreaker & that’s that. Sometimes, you might be physically attracted to someone but you are so put off by their initial impression that you aren’t willing to give it more time to see if you’ll change yo…
/r/seduction20/10/24 11:58 PM
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Damn, I wish I had you as a wingman or buddy for night game haha. I agree, it’s good to master the basics of simple communications with women before moving onto trying to master seduction with them. It’s good that he asked you for advice on how to improve & went out with you to learn, but it’s clear that he was pretty anxious or uncomfortable when put on the spot. That’s not your fault, it’s just something he has to work on. I can guarantee that if he continued going out with you for months that…
/r/seduction20/10/24 08:54 PM
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If a woman is physically attracted to you online, but then doesn’t feel a spark in-person, then it means that you didn’t match up to the persona that you gave off online. I’ve dealt with the same exact issue before. I’d have great success with some women, but only those who I was pretty indifferent about, because I never had fear to escalate with them. Those that found me attractive online would be disappointed that I didn’t match up to their expectations in-person. It isn’t just about looks. If…
/r/seduction20/10/24 07:08 PM
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Exactly. It is almost impossible for a man to become indifferent if he has no job, no money, no hobbies, no friends, no dating history, no career goals & sits around all day, feeling alone. He can try & pretend to be indifferent but if one woman suddenly starts giving him attraction, his entire life’s purpose & main attention will be solely focused on her. It’s like locking someone in an empty room for weeks & then one day giving them a soccer ball. Eventually they’ll fall in love with kicking i…
/r/seduction20/10/24 06:34 PM
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Good stuff! Keep it going. It’s awesome how quickly things can happen in life when you keep approaching
/r/seduction20/10/24 12:30 AM
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Exactly. No one is “doomed”. The only men that are doomed are the ones that don’t aim to improve & who lock themselves in their rooms for the rest of their lives. Luck also plays a role at times & that’s something we need to accept. That, combined with the fact that some approaches are better suited for us than other types of approaches. Some women vibe with us better than other types of women. For instance, I can do well when approaching a girl at a gym or at a party. I can also do alright when…
/r/seduction19/10/24 09:17 PM
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I agree with this 100% Even where I am today, I wouldn’t say that I’m the best at maintaining conversations but I think back to some of my approaches from 1 or even 2 years ago, & it’s still a hell of an improvement. Continuing to the practice is the best option, no matter what. Progress isn’t linear. Some days I still feel like shit & barely want to talk to anyone. Other days I’ll approach 5 different women within an hour. Overall it’s the long-term growth.
/r/seduction19/10/24 08:47 PM
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They can pick up on the little things. Plus it’s a game of probability. Even if you’re not needy or are very indifferent to results, you’ll still get rejected at times. The difference is how that affects u in the long term. Being on this subreddit, doesn’t mean that you’re not indifferent. You can care about self-improvement but it isn’t the end of the world if you’ve improved your game & still get rejected every now & then. That’s the point. You accept it & don’t let it affect your worth as a m…
/r/seduction19/10/24 07:05 PM
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I didn’t necessarily mean with their personality, but more-so with the outcomes.
/r/seduction19/10/24 10:50 AM
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They probably sense the neediness. Stop being so impatient. Take it slower. Work on your mindset & mental attitude first. Work on your insecurities. Work on being indifferent with your results.
/r/seduction19/10/24 06:28 AM
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I appreciate the kind words. It definitely is the bad side of pickup because we can analyze these minor hiccups to death, but nobody can win them all. I will agree that I probably didn’t have that fun energy going in. I did feel a bit out of it & my mindset was off. Showing fun energy is tough to fake (if you aren’t in the mood) & it’s crazy how much of a domino effect energy can be.
/r/seduction19/10/24 06:19 AM
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I like that perspective. I guess a part of me kept thinking about if I did something wrong or if having “no chemistry” with someone is just an excuse. I always assumed that having no chemistry was a result of the guy failing to build it. Then again.. not much else that I could’ve done & I came out of this pretty indifferent. I don’t feel upset or anything.
/r/seduction19/10/24 05:25 AM
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True. I guess it just surprised me bc I’ve never had this type of reaction to who I am as a person. When I was younger, whenever I’d go on a date where I smiled a lot more, joke around more, act funnier, try to have fun, it seemed like it would lead to getting friend-zoned or rejected. Maybe, it’s an over-correction, years later? It isn’t a big issue bc I still get dates & still get laid but I’m not sure if this was a rare occurrence or the problem stems more to me.. or what I should work on. Bu…
/r/seduction19/10/24 05:00 AM
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Just be patient. The last thing that you wanna do is text her again, even if she leaves u on read or whatever. If she doesn’t reply then u can hit her up again to ask for her schedule or if she’s down in a week. If that’s ignored again then fuck it, let it go. Hell, don’t even wait a week. Let that shit go now. Let it go the second u ever get a number again.
/r/seduction19/10/24 12:32 AM
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You’re not cooked. You’re probably a little bit rusty but what you did is bolder than what 90% of guys would do, so you’re already miles ahead. Just keep at it. You clearly know what you did right & what you did wrong. I sounds like you continually want to improve. Keep it going. For tips. Practice introducing yourself & be bold with your intentions first, if it’s a cold approach. A girl will be confused why you’re randomly talking to her so just say something like “Hey, I saw you & thought you’…
/r/seduction18/10/24 11:45 PM
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All the rappers talk about it but they’re very indifferent about what happens. They have it a little easier since they’re famous so girls naturally come to them, but still, they see one club girl just like the rest. They don’t look at a pretty club girl & think “wow, if this girl doesn’t like me then something is wrong with me”. They flirt with them, buy them drinks, laugh, talk, do whatever & they don’t care if 1 says no bc there are millions of them. You have to portray the aura that you don’t…
/r/seduction18/10/24 11:37 PM
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Agreed. Unless they flat out tell you to leave them alone or act very repulsed by you, you’re still doing okay. If they’re shy or just want to take things slow to not seem like a slut, then they’ll at least be impressed by the fact that you’re confident & bold enough to escalate. I’ve had plenty of experiences where a girl tells me to slow down or lightly moves my hand away, while we make out, but we still end up fucking anyways. The LIGHT resistance is a test, especially if they still seem inte…
/r/seduction18/10/24 07:56 PM
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That’s it. You associate your self-worth as a man with your results from clubbing. If you don’t bring a girl back then you feel worse about yourself, which shouldn’t be the case. So it’s all about expectations. Practice indifference & accepting that your value as a man doesn’t change, whether you bring a girl back or not. The only shit that matters is what you think of yourself, no matter what happens. Don’t feed yourself bad energy or it will make you feel bad. The work that you do outside of c…
/r/seduction18/10/24 05:51 PM
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You’re setting an expectation for yourself that you need to be taking someone back to you from the club. It could also be in the change of scenery where you go from a very social, loud environment with a lot of people to a peaceful, quiet, environment where you’re just there.
/r/seduction18/10/24 03:22 PM
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Who said you need to reply right away. Wait it out & then reply to her when it’s closer to a date you’re free again
/r/seduction18/10/24 02:53 PM
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You also have to flip your mindset & consider the best thing that can happen from approaching; not just the negatives that could happen.
/r/seduction18/10/24 02:37 PM
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Put yourself in their shoes & ask yourself what you’d answer to that type of question, especially if you barely know the person who just DM’d you. What else is she supposed to say? It’s a comment that dozens of guys have probably made. You need to ask a question or bring up a statement that can’t be answered with a “yes”, “no”, “maybe”, “haha” or “thanks” response. Also, this is Instagram. If you’ve tried multiple times to talk to a girl & it’s going nowhere, then she probably just wants attenti…
/r/seduction18/10/24 05:58 AM
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Facts. If you go into clubbing (or tripping) with a negative mindset that you’re not going to have a good time… then you’re not going to have a good time lmao. There’s nothing worse than being in a club when you’re in a bad mood. The people start annoying you, the music starts annoying you, you don’t want to dance or talk to anyone. Leave if that’s the case. Otherwise you start associating the club with being lonely which isn’t true.
/r/seduction18/10/24 05:35 AM
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You did the best that you could, just don’t take it too personally! It’s just how it is. A lot of girls like the attention & just want to dance or get free drinks. If you ever escalate again & it feels like none of them are budging, even if you suggest grabbing food, then just get their contact info & move onto new people.
/r/seduction18/10/24 02:33 AM
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Just gauge who they’re with & how they act. You can ask them how often they go out or if they’re from out of town. Just don’t get too personal with questions like where they’re staying or it can come off as creepy. If it’s a group of girls on a girl’s trip, then escalate much faster. Just keep in mind that they’re a lot less likely to abandon & let one of their friends go with some stranger that they just met at a club. If it happens then cool, but if you invite 1 or all of them to “take the par…
/r/seduction18/10/24 02:31 AM
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Also, when they asked if he had any friends to bring around, it seems like they were hoping that he would so that they could all get out of there & experience something new. When he didn’t.. then it becomes a little bit of a crutch having a random guy with a group of girls. They don’t want other men to think that they have a boyfriend if they all go out together as a group of girls. The girl who he was flirting with was also trying to keep her options open, because otherwise she’d be stuck next …
/r/seduction18/10/24 01:32 AM
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Exactly. That’s why escalating as much as you can is crucial, especially if it’s late at night at bar or club. Not every girl wants to play it slow with the texting back & forth.. followed up with coffee.. then this then that.. some of them just want to have a fun night & get laid before the weekend is over. That’s it.
/r/seduction18/10/24 01:20 AM
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If you play your cards right then there’s a 90% chance that you’ll fuck her & you’d really have to try to mess this one up. Don’t think of it as a first date where you need play shit safe. She already likes you & you’ve met her before. When you get there, smile & hug her. Then she’ll probably have you follow her into some room. If you feel like you’re awkwardly stuck in one room then escalate this further by asking her to give you a tour of the place. Good chance that you’ll eventually end up in…
/r/seduction17/10/24 06:58 PM
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Great points! Here are some bonus tips for each one: Even if you get the girl or have a girlfriend, you STILL need to detach your expectations. Don’t try to hold onto her by fighting for sex or fighting for the relationship if it isn’t working. You shouldn’t care if you’re single again. If you’re escalating kino by touching her, don’t look down at your hands & draw attention to it. Continue holding eye contact with her while you do this. The mood matters. It’s always good to gradually escalate b…
/r/seduction17/10/24 06:01 PM
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Yes, we need to display indifference. Where most men fail is they think that being “indifferent” is suddenly acting way too cold or way too distant. You’re not truly acting indifferent here. This can backfire bc it shows them that you let it emotionally affect you & now you’re acting this way out of spite or because you’re butt hurt. Indifference is going with the flow & not taking it personally. You don’t allow it to change your routine. If they pullback then you need to match their level or sl…
/r/seduction17/10/24 05:23 PM
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Well then I’d say that you played your cards fairly okay. We’ll never know exactly why she flaked & sometimes over-analyzing & trying to figure out the answer doesn’t help us. Most likely, she was probably hoping that you’d continue to text her during that weekend. Even after planning your 2nd date. For whatever reason, some women are just like that. If you go longer than a day without talking to them, then they just see it as plain ignorance & that you don’t actually like them. If she seemed qu…
/r/seduction17/10/24 06:01 AM
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We’ve all had that happen to the best of us before haha. They’re designed to be addicting for a reason. If they were truly “designed to be deleted” after helping us all find “the one”, then their whole business model would fail.
/r/seduction17/10/24 04:00 AM
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Don’t swallow more than you can chew or you’ll choke. You do you but if you’re conflicted over how it’s affecting your time or work, then you need to cut back on some of these women. Subtract 1 per week & go from there. So for any eliminations, your first vote will be to obviously keep the ones that you find the most attractive & enjoy sex with the most. After that, if you’re narrowing it down some more, then I’d consider eliminating the ones that seem the most emotionally needy. So unless you e…
/r/seduction17/10/24 03:52 AM
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This depends.. did you arrange the 2nd date during the 1st date & did you text anything else to her after the 1st date? It seems like she became a bit insecure & needed some reassurance from you after the first date. This is especially true if she texted you something after the first date & you ignored it for 2 days. Usually, it’s not a good idea to plan too far ahead with them, if you’re right in the middle of a 1st date. I usually don’t plan the 2nd date right away. After the 1st date, I just …
/r/seduction17/10/24 03:07 AM
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That statement is an over exaggeration imo but you’re free to believe that about all women if you wish.
/r/seduction16/10/24 09:38 PM
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That’s true but trends are not going to change anytime soon, if anything it’ll get worse. That’s why it’s optional for men to use it, but use it correctly. Don’t give free attention to any attention seekers or love-bombers, especially to girls that continually flake on you or never want to meet.
/r/seduction16/10/24 07:32 PM
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Yeah that too. If he’s making a joke for himself & for his general amusement, without caring what she thinks, then that’s fine. But if he starts laughing at his own joke & then quickly changes his expressions when he sees that she didn’t find it funny, or even follows it up with “bad joke, it wasn’t funny I know”… then he was only doing it in an attempt to please her & cares too much about what she thinks of him.
/r/seduction16/10/24 06:17 PM
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I agree but to an extent I think that the idea of presenting ourselves as best as we can is still good. Not for a woman, but for ourselves. That means being honest in who we are & having confidence in ourselves, without caring what others think. If I dress nicely for a date, it’s because I care about myself & know that I deserve to look as good as I do. If I’m speaking to a girl about my passion or beliefs, I don’t let her opinions sway me because I’m presenting myself as who I am. So yes, it fl…
/r/seduction16/10/24 05:39 PM
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Real life is the way to go. Dating apps should be a back-up that you forget that you even have. If you’re checking each app every 5 minutes to see if you got a new like or new match & it’s causing you to feel anxious or bad, then take a break from that shit. They favor paying customers & women way more than men, even if you’re good looking & wealthy.
/r/seduction16/10/24 05:22 PM
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Don’t overthink it. She clearly likes the outdoors, nature, exercise, hiking/walks so stick to those topics in the beginning. Let her talk more than you do. Ask her if she has ever competed in a marathon before or just smile & make a statement, “I’m guessing that you’re training for a marathon”. If she isn’t (which I doubt she is) she’ll start talking about herself & her routine. You can also introduce yourself to her & say that you like that trail but are considering to explore other ones. Ask …
/r/seduction16/10/24 04:19 PM
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You already asked the same question in a post yesterday. Maybe you’re just looking for reactions, but if you’re not & instead are waiting for someone to confirm your bias, then eventually you’ll get it from someone but you’re not doing yourself any favors with that.
/r/seduction16/10/24 04:12 PM
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“Hi how are you?” Go from there.
/r/seduction16/10/24 04:05 PM
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Instagram is a huge hit or miss for some guys nowadays. If you have a decent profile with high-quality photos of yourself & your lifestyle, then it can be used to your advantage. But if you barely have any followers & no interesting photos of your lifestyle or yourself, then your success rate goes down a lot. So work on bringing that up first, unless you’re just using IG to message a girl who you’ve already met before. Even if you have a good profile, most girls are only on there for attention &…
/r/seduction16/10/24 03:11 PM
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I meant it lightly, as in her being in a bad mood shouldn’t make us pretend like we’re having an amazing date while thinking, “please like me now & cheer up because I’m smiling for you”. A lot of nuance here but I agree. Our emotions shouldn’t be based off of someone else’s emotions. That’s actually a bad habit that I’ve had before where I’d tried to continually please or cheer up my now-exes whenever they were having a bad day. I’m a naturally optimistic guy that tri…
/r/seduction16/10/24 02:55 PM
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There are different ways that you can flirt & still find success. You don’t have to master all of the different types of ways to flirt if you don’t want to. Does it help if you do? Sure, but there isn’t a single answer to this. Anyone who says that is just being stubborn.
/r/seduction16/10/24 01:03 PM
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Self-deprecating humor should always have a limit to it. If you’re having a great date with a girl & time a joke about how you’re “so clumsy” because you accidentally mixed up your socks & one of them matches their shirt, then she might laugh & enjoy the fact that you don’t take yourself too seriously. Now, make the same type of joke another 2 or 3 times & she’ll truly start questioning if you take anything in life seriously & if you’re generally just a super clumsy man who she shouldn’t continu…
/r/seduction16/10/24 12:06 PM
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Who said this is a girl that doesn’t even want to talk to you. How can you read someone’s mind? This mindset is so negative & anti-social. By that logic, relationships or sexual dynamics between younger men & older men shouldn’t be possible.. yet it happens.. Does that mean that every single older man was seen as a creep when he first got to know the girl he’s now dating or fucking? No. You don’t know how receptive someone will be towards you until you talk to them or get to know them. I’m not t…
/r/seduction16/10/24 11:35 AM
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I go to a much larger gym where’s usually around 50-100 people. It’s only awkward if you make it awkward. Approaching doesn’t have to involve any crazy pick-up lines or brand new techniques. Just think about it how you’d approach a random guy at the gym who you need a spot from on the bench. My go-to line is simply asking a girl “Hey, how many sets do you have left on this machine?” They’ll give me some random number & then I reply with “Oh okay, btw my name is ____” At this point I look her in …
/r/seduction16/10/24 02:04 AM
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You don’t need to change completely who you are. I didn’t hear the conversation that you were having, so I don’t know how deep or personal it was. But, to at least a small extent thats just how it is. I’m not saying that you can’t slowly reveal yourself to someone. Again, there’s nothing wrong with being vulnerable or having deeper conversations. It’s just that you might’ve invested way too much, all at once. Who knows what she was thinking. It’s just a speculation. I’d say the main issue here w…
/r/seduction16/10/24 12:27 AM
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You can be attracted to intelligence & intellectually stimulating conversations. That’s fine. I like that in a woman too & those are the type of women you should continue going after. But, you need to sparkle in a hint of romantic intent, in combination with good conversation. Also, you can have deep conversations with someone, but you shouldn’t expose this side of you way too quickly. You need to be pickier about timing this, otherwise it can be seen as a sign of weakness. This is the equivalen…
/r/seduction15/10/24 10:37 PM
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You can form a deep emotional connection with anyone but you need to show romantic interest if it’s a date & you wish to date them someday. Otherwise, how are you showing them that you see them differently than how you’d emotionally connect with your family member or a friend? Why should they see you any different? They can’t read your mind & see what you’re seeing down the line. If there’s no flirting, romance, or sex involved then that’s simply a friendship. Admiring their soul or beauty isn’t…
/r/seduction15/10/24 10:15 PM
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I don’t mean that they’ll crave it the second that they just finished up a brutal workout. What I mean is that some of them will crave the social connections that come from being a regular at a gym, in general. We live in a world nowadays where finding a third place to socialize is hard. So for some people that’s usually the gym or club that they’re routinely going to. It also doesn’t have to be a direct approach where the end game is getting a phone number within 5 minutes. It can happen but I …
/r/seduction15/10/24 09:13 PM
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Your comment is almost the exact same one that I just made & it’s honestly better summarized than mine haha. Great minds think alike & I agree 100% It’s all about being an HONEST man. If a girl says a joke that isn’t that funny, then laughing at it is acting fake. If she’s acting distant & cold, which shouldn’t make us feel good, then smiling too much is acting fake.
/r/seduction15/10/24 08:15 PM
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I think it all depends on the chemistry that you two are having. Personally, I have great teeth & a great smile (as I’ve been told) so I use that to my advantage, especially if it’s the first couple of seconds of meeting a new girl or introducing myself to her. However, that’s only in the very beginning. The rest of my smiles have to be genuinely earned. I think this helps by showing them that I have a sweet/happy side to me, but that I won’t fake it. So, if I’m 5 mins into a 1st date & the ener…
/r/seduction15/10/24 08:03 PM
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If he calls you his girlfriend & you call him your boyfriend.. and you’re official.. then you have every right to talk to him about this concern. Tell him that you’d like to be taken more seriously & you want to see the relationship progress a bit more. He might give some excuses at first, but if he genuinely cares about you then he’ll slowly take those steps to make things right. Maybe he got burned in the past by opening up too quickly to a girl & rushing the relationship. Who knows. But you n…
/r/seduction15/10/24 07:15 PM
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I disagree with gyms. Sure, some girls might be in a rush but not as much as a girl going to a supermarket. Most people work out anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours at a time, especially if they love to workout. So many of them are craving to talk to someone else about their routine or to make new connections there. Unless a girl has headphones in & ignores you or is sprinting out of the gym, I don’t think that approaching to talk for a minute or two is going to destroy their routine, especially…
/r/seduction15/10/24 07:11 PM
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100% agreed about the part of seeing a girl way too often. I learned this the hard way. MEN DON’T MAKE THIS MISTAKE. It doesn’t matter how much you have in common with a girl, if you guys see each other too much it WILL kill the relationship. I don’t care if it feels like all of the stars are aligned & she tells you that you’re her only soul mate. I don’t care if you’re having the greatest sex ever or she tells you how much fun she’s having hanging out each day. She might even test you with inno…
/r/seduction15/10/24 06:29 PM
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You should’ve stopped pushing for more information when she said that she’s already seeing someone else from the gym. Who cares how many dates they want on? Who cares who it is? That’s her own personal information. That isn’t for you to know or for everyone to know. That was her politely giving you a hint that she’s taken or she’s not interested. Maybe she didn’t want any conflict with the other guy who she’s already seeing & doesn’t want to come off as an easy girl who gets with multiple guys a…
/r/seduction15/10/24 03:14 PM
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From the public store experience, I’d say that they might’ve taken your question the wrong way when you asked if they go to university around there. They probably wondered, “why is this random guy asking us this personal information” & might’ve felt uncomfortable revealing that information right away. It was a little bit too forward, question-information wise. Also, approaching is less likely to work if it’s a group of girls. Maybe, they’ll talk to you as friends but unless it’s a place where yo…
/r/seduction15/10/24 02:27 PM
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I’d say the trick here is to approach at a place where you’ve shown some social interactions around others, first. Then you’re less likely to be labeled as “that older creep”. It’s even better if at a place where there’s a wide age gap of people. This way you don’t stick out like a sore thumb if you’re the only guy that’s 20+ years older than everyone else. A gym, coffee shop, store, or a library is a good example if you’re approaching younger women. Now, if you go to…
/r/seduction15/10/24 06:32 AM
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It’s a numbers game especially if you’re at a bar or club late at night. If there’s tons of people around then don’t sweat it & talk to someone new. I’ve had experiences where I’ve approached a girl that was eyeing me for an hour at a club, only for her & her group of friends to give me the side eyes & ignore me when I got close to them. Then 2 hours later, the same girl approached me when she saw that I didn’t care & was talking to other people. Another time, I approached a girl who kept preten…
/r/seduction15/10/24 04:38 AM
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Just imagine that it’s the last day of class & you’ll never see this girl again. Let’s also say that your phone told you that she likes you & everyone just left class. Now it’s only just you & her talking. What would you say? How would you behave? What are some things you have always wanted to do or say to a girl in your class that was sitting next to you? I’m sure you’d smile more. You’d sit closer to her. You wouldn’t be afraid of touching her hands, touching her shoulder, looking deeply into …
/r/seduction15/10/24 01:41 AM
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Bingo. Your last point is a home run. Reassurance will always come on its own. That’s earned for every man, not given. You can’t force or demand reassurance. Whenever we feel the urge to seek reassurance, from anyone in this world, we must first look within. If we’re unable to reassure ourselves, first, then we don’t deserve it from anyone else. What’s funny is how reassurance from others is usually given when we truly don’t care about receiving it.
/r/seduction15/10/24 12:52 AM
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Agreed. You can only fake putting on a show for so long before the truth slowly slips through the cracks. That’s why there’s a tier of men who can get girls, get hook ups, but struggle with holding onto a serious relationship after a couple of months. I’ve been one of them, so I’m speaking from my experience. It didn’t matter that I looked good, was great in bed, had a fun social life & a good career; the unresolved traumas eventually came back up to the surface & it would push every girl away. …
/r/seduction14/10/24 09:33 PM
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100%. The worst mistake is acting all butthurt & showing her that you’re needy for sexy. It will make you look more unattractive. By showing indifference & playing it off, you show her that you’re not going to force her to do something she isn’t ready for (which she might change her mind about in 2 minutes) & that you’re an emotionally stable guy that has options. She’ll question why you aren’t overreacting & it’s usually because guys that overreact have a low self-esteem, fragile ego & don’t ha…
/r/seduction14/10/24 06:20 PM
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Never act butthurt about it. Just try again after a couple of minutes. If you’re rejected again then play it off & try to escalate next time that you see her. If this persists then just make up some excuse & say “listen I gotta go do ___ that I just remembered I have to do”. Don’t mention anything about why you’re actually leaving, even if they challenge you about it. This will either cause them to change their mind & they’ll stay or the distance will make her miss you more, inevitably changing …
/r/seduction14/10/24 06:16 PM
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It’s not a major dealbreaker if you have all other aspects of your life in order but it can be a dealbreaker for some girls, it’s just how it is. I wouldn’t bring it up the first minute that you meet a new girl but it also isn’t something that you should lie about & not tell them about until 3+ dates in. If she doesn’t have her own place then you’ll need to get used to doing it in a car or getting a hotel.
/r/seduction14/10/24 10:39 AM
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I know exactly what you mean. Trust me. I’ve had the same experiences where it felt like the stars were lining up & Id tell myself, “I can’t wait for us to look back in 50 years to talk about this moment”, or “I can’t wait for our kids to look at this memory of ours in our photo album”. Unfortunately, human psychology plays a bigger role than anything in the world & that’s simply how the game is played. It’s the harsh reality of this world but it’s better to know the truth than to continue livin…
/r/seduction14/10/24 03:19 AM
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I’d argue that body language & touch represent at least 80% of all attraction. A timid man who has a bad time maintaining eye contact & is afraid of making any move will always do worse in the long-term than a confident guy who went in for a kiss & got rejected. It’s all about escalation & playing the numbers game. Also, if a girl rejects an advance during a date then don’t continually force them bc that isn’t cool, but also don’t get butthurt about it. Sometimes, you just need to be a bit patie…
/r/seduction14/10/24 02:39 AM
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Yes you should’ve. At least now you know what to do if you see her again for another date.
/r/seduction14/10/24 01:31 AM
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Either way, she’s not your girlfriend or a helpless child & you’re still investing too much of yourself, way too soon. There needs to be a balance here. I wouldn’t buy her a plane ticket. You can offer her to stay with you at your place, but that’s as far as I’d go. Additionally, so much time has gone by that your religious retreat is becoming a distant memory. I’m not saying this to make you panic. You simply have to understand that this can cause attraction to slowly go away. That’s probably w…
/r/seduction14/10/24 01:03 AM
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The thing is.. have you met her yet? Is she your girlfriend? Why are you investing so much of your emotions & financial resources into her, so soon? She has to put in the time & effort too. It works both ways. The fact that she hasn’t replied to that seems like she’s not that serious to see you & even if she was, why are you paying for it all? Maybe from your perspective it seemed like you guys really clicked but it doesn’t seem like she felt the same way, otherwise she would be putting in as mu…
/r/seduction14/10/24 12:51 AM
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If the plan was to meet up after exams then I’d wait & hit her up again until a few days beforehand. Then you can ask again about which day works best to meet up. Otherwise, she knows damn well that she hasn’t responded yet. If she changed her mind about you then so be it. Texting her more or continually checking in won’t save you. You still need to distance yourself a bit unless she reaches out to you or you get close to the exam dates. Any talking in between likely won’t change anything, espec…
/r/seduction14/10/24 12:34 AM
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I agree. Through my personal experience, even though I’ve had some great conversations with women through text before meeting up.. more times than not if you keep texting longer than a couple of days without planning a date, then you’ll just end up friendzoned. If she knows everything to know about you before the first date, then why the hell would she even look forward to it? What else is there to learn?
/r/seduction14/10/24 12:21 AM
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If you haven’t spoken to her before & don’t know her in person then that’s too direct imo. I’d have a fun & playful conversation with her first to build some momentum, before asking her out. There’s a greater chance she’ll agree to it.
/r/seduction14/10/24 12:17 AM
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Exactly. This happens pretty often if a girl is kinda into you but you sent a bad text. Sometimes just changing the tone & direction of the convo can help. But obviously if u sent 1 text.. a few days go by.. u send another & nothing.. then just move on. The ball is 100% in her court & unless they reach out to u, don’t even bother.
/r/seduction13/10/24 11:39 PM
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The ghosting makes sense because she did it once before & you tolerated it. She also flaked 4 times before. Nothing should be a shock here. Just because you guys fucked doesn’t mean that she learned her lesson from ghosting you. She knows that you forgave her before & so she did it again because she assumes you’ll forgive her again. There’s a very good chance that she just kept you around as an option until another guy that she was more into started giving her more attention. When he stopped, sh…
/r/seduction13/10/24 11:32 PM
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Some women are just not into guys 10-20+ years older than them & that’s fine. Just accept that as it is. Older women have more life experience & have dealt with bad approaches but that doesn’t mean that you should write off either or. I’d still do it even if some rejects slip in here or there. Who cares. Do it anyways.
/r/seduction13/10/24 11:04 PM
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Oh I see. I thought for a second you meant insta date that you asked them out over instagram for a date lmao. In this case, yeah the anti-slut walls are more likely to come up if they just met you moments ago. I’d just play it off & continue escalating. Some women might not want to hook up right away & that’s fine. At that point, I’d still at least go for the kiss & then get her number. After that plan a 2nd date.
/r/seduction13/10/24 11:02 PM
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Bingo
/r/seduction13/10/24 10:58 PM
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If a girl met up with you for a date, she knows what she’s getting herself into. It doesn’t matter if she was just dating someone before, has a husband, says she’s not sexual, etc. They chose to come see you for a reason. It’s because they were curious about what would happen. Some of them are probably just giving you shit tests so I’d continue escalating during the dates, up until there’s some type of rejection. For instance, if things are going well & you’re making out with the girl who just g…
/r/seduction13/10/24 10:52 PM
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The way that I look at it is that he’s in a lose lose situation either way. If he never notices those issues, then he’ll continue being taken advantage of, so we can honestly feel bad for him. If he does, then he’ll feel bad that he let it happen & he’ll be 5 steps behind compared to where you are now. I think the beauty of life is just going with the flow & enjoying the journey, lessons learned & everything in between. Most men out there will never experience love at least once in their life. S…
/r/seduction13/10/24 10:45 PM
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First of all, why would she be planning dates in December? There’s absolutely no reason to be planning that far ahead. Even hinting at that will give her the impression that you’re simply going to wait around for her.. for another couple of weeks? Next, you definitely did go too far. You invested way too much time into talking with her on the phone & probably speaking more than she did. Honestly, if you haven’t been flirting by this point then she’s probably just defaulting to you as her emotion…
/r/seduction13/10/24 10:04 PM
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What’s your opinion of Tinder gold/boosts compared to apps like Bumble pro or Hinge pro? I forget if it’s called pro or plus or whatever but yeah.
/r/seduction13/10/24 09:12 PM
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I feel you on that one. It’s very similar to me about how my last breakup went down. We flipped from best friends, with her telling me how much she loved me & wanting me in her future to enemies overnight. No contact. Blocks everywhere. Just crazy how it flipped so fast. I think it must’ve been a big wake up call for you over how you were helping her so much & she did you dirty in the end. Fuck it, who cares. The new guy will eventually see her red flags & she isn’t your problem anymore. You’re …
/r/seduction13/10/24 06:32 PM
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I learned that lesson too over the years & had my biggest one with this last year. I’m guessing you went through a breakup or something along those lines? You hit the head of the nail with how easily shit can go south. It can happen in minutes over the silliest thing. Months or years of hard work can vanish instantly by 1 major fuck up or a couple of smaller fuck ups added up. But yeah, it’s a lesson that every guy needs to learn. Some learn it the easy way but most learn it the hard way. It’s b…
/r/seduction13/10/24 05:58 PM
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It’s a trade-off in the end. You’re free to do whatever you want but everything comes at a cost.
/r/seduction13/10/24 06:38 AM
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I get what you’re saying & if you want acknowledgment over your past experiences, then alright, you’ve got it. But, you don’t need to completely give up dating apps. I just think you seem to be hard on yourself by stating that you don’t think it would be fruitful for you to learn cold approach. Why not? You don’t have to approach random strangers at a shopping mall & ask for their numbers. It could be as simple as chatting with a girl you find cute at a local gym or complimenting a girl you see …
/r/seduction13/10/24 06:14 AM
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Settling down doesn’t have to coincide with letting yourself mentally go. Even if you’re married to an amazing woman, you should live in a mindful state of indifference. You should always remind yourself that you’re a highly-desirable man that can move on to someone new the very next day. Obviously NO ONE likes to think about breakups, divorce, stuff like that.. but you’ll always be in a great position in life if you’re prepared for it. I’m not saying to be pessimistic, I’m simply stating to nev…
/r/seduction13/10/24 06:08 AM
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That’s simply the world we live in nowadays. I don’t mean to come off as mean at all but I think you’re being a little too dramatic by saying “…dating apps being your ONLY way of meeting women.” Your brain has formed a habit where it’s most comfortable with getting to know women through dating apps. Congrats, you’ve probably mastered them. Now it’s time to master other skills such as asking women out in person. Your brain may initially push you back the same way that it did when you first messag…
/r/seduction13/10/24 05:51 AM
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You need to be content with her potentially moving on or forgetting about you on her return, especially if you haven’t met up yet or have a strong connection with her. The best approach is to get her number or add her somewhere & then say that you guys should see each other & do something fun when she gets back. Then leave it at that. After those 6 weeks (you can even text a little bit before her last day there) hit her up again & plan something out. There’s a chance that she might be tired from…
/r/seduction06/10/24 05:42 AM
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Your issues are psychological more than anything. The good news is that these can be fixe. If you’re a good looking guy & have no problem getting matches on Hinge, then the issue here is that you’re not presenting yourself in a way that these women imagined that you would be. You’re basically a false-frame-catfish. Idk what else to call it. Personality catfish? It doesn’t just have to be looks. I know this to be true because I’ve dealt with the same issue in the past. Women are going on these da…
/r/seduction05/10/24 10:00 PM
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Until they’ve “won” you over & met someone at equal value or better who is also famous or high in status. Think of all the random women who were practically nobodies & only became famous after they started dating a famous actor or musician, only to leave them & move onto the next one once they got their needs met.
/r/seduction05/10/24 05:17 AM
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I agree with you here. Are women that act this way more likely to have some glaring red flags? Of course. But with today’s flaking & dating app anxiety-riddled age, more & more women are behaving this way, even the perceived “sane ones”. It used to shock me in the past but it doesn’t so much anymore & I’ve seen it time & time again. If she isn’t the one chasing you AT LEAST 60-70% of the time & you’re putting in the same amount or even slightly more effort into her (than she is into you) then it…
/r/seduction05/10/24 05:10 AM
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Also for the guys out there that have ADHD be sure to take your medication if you find that your ADHD is negatively impacting parts of your life, like I have experienced before. I’m not saying that everyone needs it or that if you have ADHD that you need to force yourself onto meds.. but there’s a high chance that most people aren’t living a higher-quality life than they could be with it, especially when it comes to the dating world. It isn’t just a lack of focus that’s the issue, I’d say the bi…
/r/seduction03/10/24 05:58 AM
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I agree. Time & time again I’ve been proven wrong in my life that the last girl that I was with was “the best that there ever was & that I can’t do better”. I think it comes from our lack of abundance & lack of experiences. It’s funny when I think back to girls that I dated back in high school who I thought were “the one” or that “I can’t live without them”, only to now laugh at myself. As we go through more experiences & improve ourselves, we become more confident & then end up dating better & …
/r/seduction03/10/24 01:05 AM
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You only juggle as many as you can handle at once with work, school, obligations to friends/family, etc. You can text a little bit here or there but it should always lead to planning out your next date, especially if you aren’t sleeping with them yet. Once you’re sleeping with them, you can space out the texts a little bit more, but you shouldn’t go longer than 10 days in between seeing them, otherwise you risk losing the connection altogether, especially if they start to pick up on the fact tha…
/r/seduction26/09/24 03:51 PM
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If the date was discussed 1 or 2 days before & they generally give the energy that they’re looking forward to it, then there is nothing to confirm if you already named a time & place. If the exact time & location wasn’t planned, then just send them where & when a few hours before, assuming they told you that they’re free that day for a date. At worst, an hour before the date you can say something along the lines of “Sorry I’m going to be 15-20 minutes late” & see what they say. If they act very …
/r/seduction26/09/24 03:46 PM
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True. Personally speaking, most women that I’ve been with or dated through OLD have ended up being crazy, being super dirty/lazy, or having some mental issue in some way. I don’t blame some of them, especially if they have severe anxiety & are homebody’s, but it just increases the likelihood that the next one you might might have something going on with her that she isn’t talking to you about right away, which can explain why she’s on a dating app to begin with. I’m not stereotyping or saying th…
/r/seduction21/09/24 08:15 PM
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“You don’t know what you don’t know.” Once you learn & practice, you can’t hold your current self to shame over your past self, because you’ve grown. That’s what life is. Would you be hard on your 5 year old self for not knowing Algebra or knowing how to write an essay? Of course not. Then why should it not be different in dating?
/r/seduction07/09/24 11:00 PM
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2019 & then pre political divide 2016. It’s like every 4-5 years, the dating space has continually taken L after L. Online dating back in 2010 or so was 10x easier than today.
/r/seduction07/09/24 04:37 AM
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Don’t take anything too personally & don’t have crazy high expectations. Expect nothing & enjoy whatever unexpected adventure happens. If you’re on a dating app, make plans with different people & expect them all to flake. If they don’t? Amazing, now you have a ton of options to pick from. If they do? Who cares, it’s almost 2025 & that’s today’s culture. Again, don’t take it too personally.
/r/seduction07/09/24 04:33 AM
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That’s the truth, especially when it comes to endlessly just hooking up with random women & never seeking a relationship. Eventually it just makes you feel numb & part of it is because we are also doing that in part to fill a void, or past trauma. Eventually most guys that have done this will realize that it does destroy the ability to deeply connect with someone, especially if you want a relationship someday. It’s not bad to do this if you’re someone that has acted too “blue-pilled” in the past…
/r/seduction01/09/24 01:49 PM
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I relate almost exactly to you when it comes to this. I’m like a ping pong ball when it comes to seeking validation & it greatly affects how I feel in the present moment. If I’m talking to an attractive girl or dancing with one, I’ll feel like I’m on top of the world. If I get rejected or feel like I’m being ignored then I feel like the ugliest man on the planet & will fear even walking up to an average one. In the end we need to realize that this comes down to our neediness of needing a woman’s…
/r/seduction30/08/24 08:28 PM
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