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| 3 | Just Been Thinking Today, Thought I'd ShareThere is a huge difference between being a pushy asshole and being honest about your intent. | /r/seduction | 12/05/13 11:31 PM |
| 20 | Above The Game Part 4: Qualifying & CalibrationAmazing post. Just a quick add on from my experience: Calibration is almost as much about learning yourself as it is getting used to norms. Some people can get away with more in the beginning but have a harder time being taken seriously at the end - others are just the opposite. Once you begin to get a feel how people generally size you up at first, it's going to become much easier. It's also really easy to get "stuck" when calibrating. If you get really happy making out in the corner of the bar… | /r/seduction | 30/04/13 10:48 PM |
| 3 | So I need help with closing at college...I hope I didn't get here too late for you to read this, but I struggled hugely with this in college. You are plateauing. Think of it from a girl's perspective. She meets a pretty cool, confident guy and starts having fun with him. She's having a huge emotional rush of nerves and excitement. You ever see Armeggedon where the rock is about to launch and Owen Wilson (I think) answer the question of how do you feel with, "I'm 1% scared and 99% excited, or 99% scared and 1% exicted - I don't know"? T… | /r/seduction | 17/04/13 11:08 PM |
| 2 | How to Turn Shame Into ConfidenceI think if you took someone who was totally horrible with women and eventually became a lady's man, the single difference that would be present in every guy would be that he now views his missteps through a guilty perspective rather than a shameful one. Having said that - I don't mean to strawman you here pal - I think you're looking at the result of the interactions, not the cause. I like poker. There are a lot of players out there who are basically just people with gambling addictions. When th… | /r/seduction | 12/04/13 11:17 PM |
| 49 | How can I become a better conversationalist?I responded to the same question in /r/askseddit as follows: This is a skill, but it can be broken down into 3 basic components: Superficial Observational/Jerry Seinfeld (As a girl in yoga pants walks past) "What's the deal with these yoga pants that every girl wears? They all look so good in them. It's basically false advertising. See that girl over there, she looks like she has a nice body now, but if she was wearing jeans...not so sure. Take a look at that what do you think? Learning how to t… | /r/seduction | 02/04/13 02:26 AM |
| 12 | Seduction is a Tool or: How I Learned to Stop Reading and Hate the SedditIn theoretical physics, there is a community of a bunch of smart people who makes guesses. Once there is enough evidence that a guess works, (i.e. it can predict something happening that would be 1/1000000000 chance of happening otherwise) it becomes accepted. Then once it becomes accepted, other smart people start building on it until they have something that as shown to be successful by the same criteria and this process just compounds. When the seduction community was small and relegated to o… | /r/seduction | 14/03/13 10:12 PM |
| 16 | What does your typical week look like?I work 45 hours per week and run my own business on the side for another 15-20 hours and it isn't too much. Just be wise enough to prioritize depending on the situation, and mature enough not to overindulge on a weekday. Here is a normal week: Monday - Responsibilities, Work (office), gym, bed. Tuesday - Work (office), Responsibilities, gym, Work (home), bed. Wednesday - Work (office), gym, date, bed. Thursday - Work (office), gym, date, bed. Friday - Work (office), gym, Work (home), Responsibil… | /r/seduction | 10/03/13 05:33 PM |
| 10 | I am a (light) stutterer, and I need some help with introductions.Own it. If you are thrown off by it, your insecurity is going to make people feel weird. I don't know how to react to your stutter, so all of a sudden your insecurity has me tip-toeing around and questioning myself. Just be like - sorry - I have this fucking stutter sometimes when I meet new people (if it's a guy). Or if it's a cute girl, tell them that you used to have a stutter when you were little and now it only comes back when a girl is adorable enough to make you nervous. | /r/seduction | 28/08/12 11:04 PM |
| 2 | r/seduction, I feel like a failure.Next time you go to a party write a detailed field report. Remember the openers you used, where the conversation went, how it ended, how kino was going, etc. Include multiple attempts. Then you'll get a proper critique and hopefully some good advice. Do you think you're going to get anything of value by telling us you say hi to a girl and touch them a bit? | /r/seduction | 14/07/12 01:43 PM |
| 3 | Not detailed enough for an FR, but I decided to take a chance and be a total cocky asshole douchebagUnless you seem into the girl on some level, usually making fun of her isn't going to end well. Something like, "you're pretty cute, too bad you wear beige shorts. I bet you could rock some (whatever shorts you're into)." will usually be a good move if the girl is on a high horse and thinks she is out of your league or something... Just blatantly making fun of her or saying stuff like, "you're boring, I don't like you" is 9 out of 10 going to push her away. You want to seem like you have high st… | /r/seduction | 14/07/12 01:34 PM |
| 2 | Is there room for affection in the PUA lifestyle?You raise an important ethical and logistical issue. This is the way I handle it: You make it clear that you see things as casual and that you are seeing other people. I've found the vast majority of girls don't mind this as long as they aren't led to believe otherwise from the beginning. You said you talk about ex's...I will say, "this other girl I am talking to" or "another girl that I hang out with" and have yet to have an objection. You'd be surprised how many girls are doing the EXACT SAME … | /r/seduction | 14/07/12 02:53 AM |
| 3 | Phrases with which to "close?"When you are opening, a line might be witty or unique or display a certain quality about you that when the girl in question doesn't have any other information about you, will make you attractive. So there are good openers (even though saying hi could still work just fine as well). In terms of closing, the girl already should feel like she knows you pretty well. You should have already proven that you are confident or witty or whatever else - so a single line at this point really isn't going to h… | /r/seduction | 13/07/12 11:32 PM |
| 22 | Tips for in Bed (she wants to sleep with you, she is there for a reason)Every time there is a sexually related post on here, the OP gets referenced to /r/sex. Sex is clearly a huge part of seduction. If you can be confident that you know what you are doing, your late stage escalation is going to be much better than if you are a bit nervous. Also, what we are doing here is a bit different than what /r/sex is doing. In the early days of pick up (and maybe still?) there was a bunch of talk about things like peacocking. How would that have progressed if every time someo… | /r/seduction | 02/07/12 05:44 PM |
| 8 | How to make things sexual?I've said this in a bunch of other comments, but quick baby steps. Whenever you feel like you're taking a big jump, you probably are. If it feels forced for you it will probably feel forced for the girl as well. So, say you want to kiss and you're holding hands - instead of trying to take a big leap and make the move, try of thinking of something that falls between where you are (hand holding) and where you want to be (making out). If you continually hold yourself to this test (i.e. is there any… | /r/seduction | 02/07/12 03:42 PM |
| 7 | Looking back on my progress.The "oh you didn't meet me I guess you don't like me" (most likely) isn't the guy just expressing his passion and disappointment with the girl. He's trying to make her feel bad so he gets a pity hang out because that's the best move he has. I wouldn't feel bad for him - it's not much better than stomping his feet and crying like a child. It's weird how much learning "game" is really about unlearning a bunch of shitty immature habits. | /r/seduction | 24/06/12 09:12 PM |
| 11 | Let's talk escalation - tofutofu, and other mastersMy personal answers (I mostly do clubs and bars, daygame might differ a bit): How far do you escalate in the first 5, 10, 20, 30 minutes? Within the first 5 I'm going to try to get one (and only one) subtle form of resistance. This way she knows it's on from the start but she also sees that I'm not needy or pushy since I'm able to calibrate so well to even the most subtle form of resistance. This works best when she isn't even aware of her own resistance - this way it just seems like I'm real sm… | /r/seduction | 18/06/12 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Studied Seddit for 4 weeks; Need Analysis on What Happened."Just go for it" is a useful concept to gain experience, but I wouldn't really say it's the best mindset once you know what you are doing. If "just go for it" were the overarching concept here, then the best move would be to just rip your pants off and walk up to her ready to go. Clearly that doesn't work, and the reason is because it's too much of a jump - just like I'd argue that going from light kino to making out is too much of a jump. So if "just go for it" has you making moves that are hur… | /r/seduction | 16/06/12 03:22 PM |
| 9 | Studied Seddit for 4 weeks; Need Analysis on What Happened.I think your biggest mistake here was leaping. You guys were hanging out a lot and texting a lot and everything (easy on over texting btw) and flirty - but your move for the kiss was a big one. Sometimes a hail mary works, but rarely - just try to gain a few yards at the time and establish a drive. Try and make it so you just happen to kiss instead of jumping from light kino to making out. Also, "do you still want to be friends?" after a denial on the kiss is horrible. Don't do that. I would eit… | /r/seduction | 16/06/12 02:34 AM |
| 3 | Will F-closing (or trying to) too soon diminish your chance at a long-term relationship?Why the fuck is this concept getting so much attention lately? The answer is simple, it doesn't change your chances but it does change the process of converting things into a relationship. A SNL girl won't be (as much) formal courting and will usually progress just as two people hanging out and hooking up until you are together all the time and then ask each other what's up. Conversely, the dating route means that once you hook up you are pretty close to a relationship. Who the fuck goes on a bu… | /r/seduction | 04/06/12 11:29 PM |
| 7 | Having some serious problems closingJust do it, but do it the right way... If done properly, nothing will really feel like a jump. That goes for kissing, sex and whatever else. Here are a few tips: DiCarlo escalation ladder. If you don't know it, learn it. Position yourself so that she is coming on to you. When you are talking slowly move your positioning so that your back is to the wall and facing outwards toward everyone else and she is facing only toward you. Keep pushing until you feel resistance, then back off just a bit. So … | /r/seduction | 04/06/12 11:06 PM |
| 10 | I'll be your nemesis.It's unfortunate that people think like this, but we all do (in varying degrees). When people get things that they want, they just develop an air of entitlement. It really ranges from anything like, "I deserve a multi-million dollar bonus because I went to Harvard" to the character of the above post's "I deserve to have sex with women because I work harder than other guys". This entitlement enables people to do absolutely sick things. It's why a rich person can support cutting social safety nets… | /r/seduction | 30/05/12 02:20 AM |
| 3 | Can't take action on dates.I believe the answer to all of your problems is called "The DiCarlo Escalation Ladder." Kissing isn't the beginning of kino, is actually toward the end. If you escalate properly it's not going to feel like a jump when you try to kiss her, but a progression. | /r/seduction | 28/05/12 03:30 AM |
| 4 | Can't take action on dates.The friendly card plays man, just be you and keep pushing forward. If you are being friendly and having a great time together and chatting up - invite her back. You shouldn't be thinking that you need to act a certain way to get physical. If the date goes great and you just say, "this has been fun so far, you should come back for a few drinks." I bet that'd work more than you would think. I mean, is it better to get lots of kino going and to build tension and to progress in a certain way - defin… | /r/seduction | 28/05/12 03:14 AM |
| 2 | Rookie Lurker needs help seducing OKCupid HB8My 10 Cents: No one is going to get a response rate that's good enough to merit getting too worried one specific interaction on OKC. That girl probably gets 20+ messages per day, the fact you scored a response in the first place is pretty cool (and probably means you have a decent profile) but at the end of the day I think you'd be wasting your time if you think you can target a specific girl. (1b.) As for a message back...it's basically a lottery ticket. At the end of the day it's going to be a… | /r/seduction | 28/05/12 02:55 AM |
| 9 | Going to the bar with a bunch of girls and just me. Need some good tips from you guys.It's always good to show the target that you have some pretty tight game. When talking to her friends, focus on the fundamentals like keeping strong eye contact, escalating light kino and controlling frame. You don't need to fuck these girls so don't push too hard or put yourself in a situation where they are giving you resistance, but demonstrate to the target what you are capable of. When she looks over and you are touching her friend's hand and you both have your eyes locked with each other..… | /r/seduction | 16/04/12 03:11 AM |
| 40 | Quicktips I find ImportantConfidence is not about being right but assuming you are until otherwise proven. Don't second guess yourself unless you absolutely should... This is something I see people fuck up all the time. Take two different people who are think the same thing but in different ways. Person #1 - "A killer whale isn't a whale, I know this because I am smart." Person #2 - "I am smart. I think a killer whale isn't really a whale." Person 1 is the asshole who jumps all over you because he is grounding who he is … | /r/seduction | 11/04/12 03:31 AM |
| 2 | Will we always want what we can't have?The young love feeling you are talking about is a visceral response of a man who is no longer sure of himself but sure about what he wants. There really is no better feeling in the world. And as long as you derive some of your identity through other people (which you do, unless you are a complete narcissist) eventually you will find a girl who tests you and challenges you enough to make you feel this way. I know that I've found several... It sounds like to some extent you are devaluing (dehumani… | /r/seduction | 11/04/12 03:08 AM |
| 4 | Lots of drunk game, not so much soberTo be honest, the game that you employ when you are drunk probably wouldn't work coming from a sober you anyways. When you have a drink in your hand you are able to get away with a lot more (by not being taken as seriously) with girls. Also, you are going to usually be conversing with girls who have a few drinks in them - which makes them more receptive (usually). If you are good at bar/club game with a couple of drinks in you, great. But don't make the mistake of thinking a lot of the lines you… | /r/seduction | 10/04/12 05:29 PM |
| 6 | How do you guys see human conversation and interaction?The idea that people are mechanistic and that manipulation is the best way to build a relationship are the two undercurrents around here that I absolutely resent. And in my experience, are mostly wrong. The best gift you can offer someone is to accept them and like them as the person they are. I'm not talking about all the superficial stuff (jobs, money, looks, etc.) but about admiring they way they interpret and experience the world - and then totally accepting it. I would argue that this is th… | /r/seduction | 09/04/12 05:49 PM |
| 83 | As a female bartender, what can I do to help male customers with the women they're attempting to flirt with? In return I'll answer any questions you have about picking up cute barmaids!In my experience, a girl will often get intimidated by a much better looking girl and then withdraw from the interaction instead of facing rejection from the guy. People try to avoid outright rejection. Now, if the OP is hitting on a guy and around the same attractiveness (or less attractive) - then the girl is going to be more receptive of advances to better her chances. Basically if a girl thinks that she doesn't have a chance she will save face and bail - if she thinks she might have a chance… | /r/seduction | 05/04/12 08:00 PM |
| 227 | As a female bartender, what can I do to help male customers with the women they're attempting to flirt with? In return I'll answer any questions you have about picking up cute barmaids!The best thing you can do is to hit on the guy while he is talking to the girl. The only way this wouldn't work would be if you are WAY hotter than this target. | /r/seduction | 05/04/12 07:46 PM |
| 27 | [FR] Horrible date, need advice...badly.I have a feeling that you ended up seeming a bit over the top touchy-feely and that you weren't really progressing conversationally so the kino began to stand out to the girl and weirded her out. Maybe you should try to be the one who terminates the contact before she feels like she has to. You let go of her hand, or move your leg. Hold it for a while, but try to be the one to stops contact. This way she doesn't get into a rhythm of turning you down. Also, the kiss thing you did sounds HORRIBLE.… | /r/seduction | 11/03/12 06:54 PM |
| 3 | Hey seddit I could use some tips, fractured my foot last night and worried it might affect my gameGirl's have an instinctual maternal instinct that makes them want to nurse sick or injured people. So I would play on that a little bit (don't go overboard though). Just go up with confidence and show them that despite the fact that you broke your foot, you have the perseverance to keep fighting. There was a college football game a while back where (I think it was Byron Leftwich) broke is ankle in the last minute or so, but continued playing and put together a last minute drive to win the game. … | /r/seduction | 11/03/12 06:30 PM |
| 10 | Why am I getting this line? And what does it really mean?I have a way different frame than you and almost never get that type of resistance. It's not because I'm better, it's because I'm more a finesse player (a la Kobe Bryant) while you are more of a physical-direct player (a la Shaq). Both were two of the best basketball players ever, but it's pretty obvious that two very different sets of skills had to be learned for each to get where they are. So, you realize that the reason you are getting "I'm not sleeping with you" right off the bat is because … | /r/seduction | 11/03/12 06:21 PM |
| 21 | Why you should take more actions as IOIsI agree that IOI's are big, but I also think that your specific example brings up a huge issue in and of itself. After you have made enough approaches so that you are comfortable on your feet and savvy and confident enough to handle whatever a girl might throw at you, I don't think it's in your best interest to do approaches at all. I very rarely do anymore. When girls are in your area they become WAY more receptive of you initiating conversation than if you were to walk all the fuck across the … | /r/seduction | 11/03/12 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Here is where I always need help.This dude is right. Give us some more info OP. Are you loosing the girls because plans are falling through? Does your first date not go well? Are the girls falling into more of a friendship type thing on you? What's going on? Are you looking for relationships? Sex? We want to help you, but we don't know anything except that you are good at getting numbers. Give us some more info. | /r/seduction | 11/03/12 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Ask Women Dating Advice: what do you guys think?Garbage. | /r/seduction | 11/03/12 12:35 AM |
| 7 | Sedditors, advice on how to proceed with this girl?I'm pretty sure this is why /r/askseddit was made. Thus far your relationship with her is seems to be pretty one dimensional (playful banter). It's almost impossible to hook up with her if you are just volleying jokes at each other and only connecting on a superficial level. You also seem to be pretty pumped about texting with her, which is a dangerous game. Texting all the time without being physical is a long road to anything physical and a quick road to being friend-zoned. You also have to un… | /r/seduction | 11/03/12 12:32 AM |
| 7 | I'm pretty new here, but I've read pretty much all of the sidebar stuff. But I personally would like an outline of a strategy some of you use that works.Kobe Bryant: "Hey Shaq, I really want to be good at basketball like you, how do you score 30 points a game?" Shaq: "I post up under the hoop and back people down then dunk in their face." Kobe: "Ok, I'll have to do that." The trick is to find out what works for you. If you try to copy someone else verbatim you are in for a rough ride. | /r/seduction | 10/03/12 09:24 PM |
| 21 | Do you ever feel like seduction is just draining?This used to happen to me. Even when things were going well, I just felt like it was so much effort to be on top of my game all the time. Then I realized that all this shit is just a bunch of tools and that you are destroying experience in and of itself if you are trying to equate a bunch of models and abstractions to real life. Girl's don't qualify themselves, they don't have a comfort mode, or a social mode, they don't have shit-tests, they don't have LMR, they don't talk in 'threads'. They ar… | /r/seduction | 09/03/12 10:01 AM |
| 1 | How do I transition from mere pickup to a relationship?I honestly don't know if I'm ready to say anything, and yeah I don't want him to think I don't have other options etc. I'd be careful about the whole 'other options' thing as a girl. With a lot of guys if you seem too intimidating, you might scare them off. It's not like you have to build value or anything. Those kind of techniques work for building physical attraction (yes, physical), which for guys is largely independent of emotional attraction. If you guys are already sexually intimate, then … | /r/seduction | 07/03/12 05:35 PM |
| 41 | "You try too hard to 1. get people to like you 2. be funny." I need to fix this, and I want your help."Trying too hard" means that you are relying on/seeking their approval too much, nothing else. You could try way harder than you do now, but if it seems like you are doing it because that's what you want to do rather than because that's what you think I want you to do - I wouldn't think anything of it. I'm pretty into stand up, and every time I go to an open mic (amateur hour) or something I always see people that feel like they are begging for laughs. Even if their material is really good, the … | /r/seduction | 07/03/12 02:56 PM |
| 2 | How do I transition from mere pickup to a relationship?I'm assuming by the questioning and your name that you are the girl here, correct? You have to understand that for a guy, though emotions are involved - it's not exactly the same as a girl. When guys get physically attached it isn't like our evolutionary wiring kicks in and we want you to stick around just for that reason (which you girl's have some of going on). You definitely seem to be far enough along (I mean 5/6 sex sessions in a week or two? Hell yeah.) to be asking SOME questions. The tri… | /r/seduction | 07/03/12 02:29 PM |
| 1 | I want to build attraction with a girl through text...Anything that I would offer as a generic prompt wouldn't be a great idea to use. You hung out with this girl a handful of times right? What was she doing with her life? Try and remember something that she was trying to achieve and see if she did it. Something like, "I remember that you were talking about a big job interview you just came back from haha, did you end up getting it?" Make it a personal question to her. You want her to get a mix of feelings that you remember her and are being friend… | /r/seduction | 05/03/12 04:30 AM |
| 4 | Getting out-DHV'd by a friend, need adviceOk so you basically have two options. You can be the guy who is the cool DJ's friend OR you could be a guy who is really passionate about something totally unrelated to DJing but is cool and chill with the funnest people. What are you studying? What do you want to be? You buddy isn't cool because he is a DJ (at least in my book), he is cool because he was skilled and passionate about something and went for it. Whatever your passion is - accept the shit out of it. You could be a communist revolut… | /r/seduction | 05/03/12 04:21 AM |
| 2 | I want to build attraction with a girl through text...It's really tough to do. That said it's not impossible to at the least bridge yourself to something (a call, a meet up, etc.) Just shoot her a BBM and try to convey an attitude that says that you just saw her on your messenger and remember her being cool so you felt like saying what's up and seeing what she is up to. If I were you I'd be shooting to get her to qualify almost right away (by her 2nd or 3rd text). Once you get her to qualify give her a few short answers that still prompt a reply by… | /r/seduction | 05/03/12 04:09 AM |
| 1 | How do I transition from mere pickup to a relationship?It's cool to try and hang out with her as much as you want if you guise it under the pretense of physical interest. It's not clingy or unreasonable to want some more action. If you ask her out to dinner or something though you might give off the wrong impression. The way things are set up right now, you should be going for, "Hey, come over" or "?" texts. The rest will follow. I posted a larger comment somewhere on this, but I hate editing so I just wrote this down here. | /r/seduction | 05/03/12 03:49 AM |
| 10 | How do I transition from mere pickup to a relationship?I'm 23 as well. I've found that there are two routes where girls will start questioning me about a relationship. Either we have been hooking up casually for a long time or I've been on the dating route and things are starting to get physical. Usually with the latter a girl will say something like, "what are you looking to get out of this?" at first and then after I tell her it's way too early for me to know I will usually get another prod in the form of, "so what exactly are we?" a bit later. As… | /r/seduction | 05/03/12 03:43 AM |
| 1 | How to introduce yourself to a group of girls?The introduction isn't all that important in the big scheme of things. You will have much more work cut out for you than that. In terms of a good introduction, it will be in your best interest to make the girls feel comfortable. They are going to a new place and don't know one of the hosts, so make them feel welcome. Body language is going to be more important that what you say. Make eye contact, shake their hand and tell them it is nice to meet them. Smile. After that the focus should be on get… | /r/seduction | 05/03/12 12:25 AM |
| 10 | What's Wrong With Me?As someone in your age range, I can say that if I never kissed a girl I would be much more terrified of success than rejection. I try to kiss a girl and she stops me, so what? I try to kiss a girl and she is into it, NOW WHAT? Am I doing this right? Is this weird for her? Should I be doing something with my hands? Should I be trying for more? Should I be stopping soon? Should I return the lower lip-bite thingy she is doing or is that only for girls? Should I try and kiss other parts of her? Her … | /r/seduction | 04/03/12 03:36 AM |
| 2 | Went to a college party, horrible time, I had some questions.Put yourself in a situation where girls that you would have more interest in would likely congregate. If you like stoner girls, roll up a joint and chill on the front porch. If you like chill girls, get a chill drinking game going where you are seated and mesh as a group (Landmines, Kings, etc.) instead of running around like idiots a la Beerball or Civil War. If you want a political girl, start a political discussion. At our college parties we usually had some people hanging out upstairs playin… | /r/seduction | 03/03/12 11:24 PM |
| 5 | Feeling Lost. Help me have a good week.Someone that has no experience with girls at all should be focusing on just talking to them and building a little chemistry, not getting laid. | /r/seduction | 03/03/12 07:36 PM |
| 4 | [FR]Girl says she's not ready to date anybody for awhile on Friday. See her on a date Saturday. Didn't look like a date. Find out today it was. Lessons learned included.I mostly agree with you. Just to make it clear though, texting for 2 weeks straight without setting up a date after you two slept together is real lame. For the record, text banter will do nothing but hurt you most of the time. There are people who claim to game it, but I think game would be stronger to use it solely as basic communication of simple facts rather than keeping a conversation going. Also, that inanimate object stuff? Garbage. Useless fucking misogynistic garbage. Women are far more… | /r/seduction | 01/03/12 07:01 AM |
| 5 | I am SASHA DAYGAME - and I will help you GET SOME SEXY GIRLS IN YOUR LIFE! Ask me anything! :)It seems like you are usually pretty content to end things with a not perfect close. For example, from the video I just watched you were generally pretty cool with just exchanging numbers and having it be as casual as "just give me a call next time you are around and we'll do some coffee and see what happens" if that looks like the best you are going to get. Are you getting a good amount of calls/texts from this strategy? Do you usually end up being the one to call and go after them? I couldn't … | /r/seduction | 29/02/12 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Reading DiCarlo escalation ladder, need some pointers.Kino isn't my strong suit either and although the D.E. Ladder is supposedly a good method on its own, I've never had much success with it as such. I usually will try to pair my body language, kino and conversational depth. So let's say we start off with a superficial topic, in this case my body language will be disinterested/distant and there won't really be much kino. Then when we dig a little deeper conversationally, say talking about her aspirations/passions, I will square up and give her mor… | /r/seduction | 29/02/12 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Trouble getting a response/first meetupI use the first text as a gambit. If she takes the bait great, but I'll try and set it up so that if she doesn't respond, I'll have an opportunity to look better on my next text. The best way I've found to do this is to fire a text soon after meeting with something like, hey (some line of random banter). Want to meet up at bar x tomorrow around 8? If she says sure, great, mission accomplished. But if she flakes and doesn't answer, you have given yourself the option of a "Hey, I didn't hear from … | /r/seduction | 27/02/12 05:38 PM |
| 2 | How to become self-motivated?Do you think it's just better to shut those overly abstract and simplifying thoughts off? Not really. It's just important to recognize that they are nothing more than tools. Einstein had a great quote on this, "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” Is there anything you would recommend reading more on to understand this theoretical side? Pretty much everything I wrote on the … | /r/seduction | 27/02/12 05:04 PM |
| 12 | How to become self-motivated?My pragmatic answer: You should be figuring out two things 1.What are you doing to get blown out? and 2. What kind of people are you surrounding yourself with. You should be able to talk to girls at a university without having them embarrass you. Most of the time when I talk to a girl, even if you watched me from across the room, you'd have to ask me how it went. You are just talking, there isn't really a failure unless you happen to run into the 1 in 100 bitch that will put you down. Just be co… | /r/seduction | 27/02/12 01:39 AM |
| 1 | It's Sunday... So what did you learn this weekend?At bars and clubs I'm usually pretty concerned about going the distance more than anything else. Usually I will snag a number and get out of there if I'm pretty sure that the interaction isn't going to go much further, but I will always push until I find that point. This usually takes a good bit of time... This weekend I had a couple interactions where things were going quite well, but I grabbed the number after 2-3 minutes and got out of there. (I had an old g/f in town and was a little preoccu… | /r/seduction | 26/02/12 06:06 PM |
| 8 | Undergoing self-improvement - How do you change who you are in front of people who have known you for a long time?Involve other people. If you are walking around and making connections with a bunch of girls this is really valuable to all your friends (especially the ones better with girls who will know how to take advantage of this). Let's say you meet two cute girls, get your buddy over there to take one off your back. This includes people who aren't great with girls - I will make a good effort to hook my friends up who aren't the best on their feet all the time, everyone (those who do and don't do well) r… | /r/seduction | 24/02/12 09:24 PM |
| 3 | What to do when you are being stared down by an AMOG?I disagree with a lot of the advice here. In my experience it is a way better move to befriend the alpha guy than it is to challenge him. Most of the time I will deal with him like I would a girl's best friend, that is, win approval rather than trying to take dominance over him. Usually I'll ask the girl about him and she'll say something like, "don't worry about him he always does this (blah, blah, blah)" and I'll just go over and talk to him. "Hey man, I'm PyouA, is it cool if I talk to your f… | /r/seduction | 24/02/12 09:06 PM |
| 1 | K-closing but not F-closinghere you go | /r/seduction | 21/02/12 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Sunday Reflection Thread - What did you learn this weekend?Posting up can be more effective than moving all over the place and opening, especially with a smaller bar/club. I just opened to every hot girl in my area and got to talk to just as many people as I normally would opening, but in each case the frame inherent in the set was that the girl came to me. This really strengthened the amount I was able to let the girl qualify to me. When you walk over to a girl from across the room the starting frame is that you are the one who approached her, so you h… | /r/seduction | 20/02/12 02:44 AM |
| 6 | Was dancing with a girl at a club last night; what could I have done differently/better?Once she starts talking to you and you can't hear her, make a gesture showing her that you can't hear, but don't learn in or make any effort to hear what she is saying (doesn't look good). If she keeps trying to talk to you, point off the dance floor, grab her hand and guide her to a place that is quieter and talk (but still keep pressing forward, don't lose all the progress you just made kinoing and start trying to be best buds). Also, I just posted a pretty detailed explanation about how hitti… | /r/seduction | 17/02/12 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Setting yourself up to close the dealThis is pretty much spot on, especially something where compliance is so black and white like the example you gave. I would just add that something that turns the tables a bit and reminds the girl that she is the one trying to impress you might be a good line. "hahahah, oh yeah? We will see if you get a call from me after that. (smile confidently, walk away)" That will usually get you a text from the girl an hour or so later saying how nice it was to meet you and how excited she is to hang out. | /r/seduction | 17/02/12 07:44 PM |
| 4 | Setting yourself up to close the dealThat sucks. When she initially told you she was with her friend did you take a step back so you could build up some momentum when you asked her again - or did you keep the interaction as is and then ask her under the same circumstances? You want to make moves when you are progressing (on a crescendo) rather than being static and stuck in the same position. If it were me, after she said, "I'm with my friend" I would have taken that as a rejection and thus made out with her and get touchy again ri… | /r/seduction | 17/02/12 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Setting yourself up to close the dealThanks for the advice. Likewise. | /r/seduction | 17/02/12 07:27 PM |
| 7 | Setting yourself up to close the dealIf you are new to seduction generally, it might be in your best interest to just start and open as many sets as possible. There is a learning curve with this stuff, and being able to be sociable around girls and getting them to talk to you in the first place is a precursor to being able to bed them. That said, once you hit a brickwall one of two things have happened. Either you are moving too fast and she is putting on the brakes (this is good! Just adjust, take a step back and try again) or as … | /r/seduction | 17/02/12 07:24 PM |
| 6 | Setting yourself up to close the dealThat is a model I go by, yeah. Like any model it is imperfect, but I think that imperfection is a necessary part of reducing the complexity of interactions into a framework we can understand. It's a model - it's not how the world works. That said, what I was trying to say here is a bit different. It's not like you are falling back into comfort - it's that an otherwise sexual act is being classified as comfort. It would be like if a girl said, "yeah, they are just boobs, so what, grab them if you… | /r/seduction | 17/02/12 08:11 AM |
| 14 | Best Openers...and keeping the conversation goingBest openers are situational and funny. (In a parking lot) "Hey, I lost my car do you have you haven't seen it anywhere have you?" - "Uh, what kind" - "It's an orange lamborghini murcielago, seen it anywhere?" - Let her be confused/suspicious then say you were kidding, but really can't find your car - ask her what she thinks of the whatever you just bought and go from there. If you see her on an iphone I usually will ask if they know how to turn the % bar off/on next to the battery. I'll say it'… | /r/seduction | 17/02/12 06:05 AM |
| 9 | Is there such a thing as work game?I work at a ~5000+ person private company and I work with a lot of really cute, intelligent, fun girls. Are you hiring? To answer your question, there is nothing wrong with it IF she is distantly enough related to your specific job that if things went bad it wouldn't turn into a shitstorm for you. Otherwise, don't shit where you eat. Even if it goes well for a while and the girl is amazing, one bad move and you have a horrible love life AND a horrible job. That's really putting all your marbles … | /r/seduction | 13/02/12 04:46 AM |
| 4 | Using a suit to "peacock"I have to agree with the men at MFA. You are much better off showing a girl that you have enough social awareness to know the proper dress for the event rather than intentionally looking out of place in hope it will get a few more girls to talk to you. If you are somewhere where the suit plays first and then go somewhere else after without getting changed, that's no big deal though. | /r/seduction | 13/02/12 02:13 AM |
| 4 | [FR] OKC Date---> Sex at her placeOh, and FYI: taking a Zinc supplement before going out will give you another round in the chamber 99 out of 100. In my early years of college I would pop that shit before a date like a 60 year old knocks down viagra. | /r/seduction | 13/02/12 02:02 AM |
| 7 | [FR] OKC Date---> Sex at her placeUnemployed, lives with parents (in suburbs?), bad at sex; has sex with independent city girl on first date. That's seriously a job well done. If you are motivated enough to improve yourself through learning all this shit I'm sure you will find a gig that grants you some independence soon enough. In the meantime, way to not let that stuff get in the way. | /r/seduction | 12/02/12 11:45 PM |
| 3 | Another first date from OKCupid last night. I took the advice I got here last time to heart; still failed to build attraction. Please advise.On that note, would you recommend I try to get her to come up to my place for a few minutes before we head out? If so, what kind of excuse could I use for that? Not a must or something I personally do, but it is said to work if you want an extra edge. Anything that would take over 2 minutes would merit an invite up - so something like having to send your boss a quick email works fine, just make sure you tell her it will only take a minute or two. Something worth seeing works as well, (i.e. you f… | /r/seduction | 11/02/12 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Handling the Depression of a Failed AttemptIf done right this is the best way there is to spin a critique from girls: Discuss with them what you should have done. Be confident about it and argue where you disagree, but have an open mind and listen to what they say. If this happened to be I'd say, "what do you want me to do? Fight this guy over two girls that I just met and that are his friends? I thought you were cute and everything, but there are plenty of other cute girls here that don't involve me squaring up with some asshole to talk… | /r/seduction | 11/02/12 07:18 PM |
| 8 | Another first date from OKCupid last night. I took the advice I got here last time to heart; still failed to build attraction. Please advise.Some minor things I'd change if I were you: Next time have her park at your place. Just say something like, "I'm not sure where we will end up, but I'm walking to the first bar and will have to get back eventually so you might as well park here so you don't have to walk by yourself to your car late at night." Otherwise the girl is going to be thinking of how to get to her car and not trap herself into going back with you - which is evidenced by her remark. If her car is at your place she will be… | /r/seduction | 11/02/12 06:40 PM |
| 9 | Does PU need to be complicated? Dating advice in a nutshell."The height of cultivation always runs to simplicity. Before I studied the art, a punch to me was just like a punch, a kick just like a kick. After I learned the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick no longer a kick. Now that I've understood the art, a punch is just like a punch, a kick just like a kick. The height of cultivation is really nothing special. It is merely simplicity; the ability to express the utmost with the minimum." - Bruce Lee I would say this is only good advice for 50% … | /r/seduction | 11/02/12 06:03 PM |
| 3 | Any resources for married men? (open, not cheaters)Yep. Something like OKCupid could really be a goldmine for you. Marriage is an indicator that you are a reliable guy and will be taken as a plus as long as you frame it properly (i.e. don't come off as a cheater). I'd either say you are single and looking for something casual and then brief the girl on the first date or actually put that you are taken and have a small blurb that shows you aren't a cheater and are in a open marriage. | /r/seduction | 09/02/12 08:21 PM |
| 2 | How to avoid being "Creepy"THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE! Seriously, it's all about actually being who you are representing yourself as in the conversation. The second you fake something (interest in her clothes/accessories, job, drink, whatever) that isn't there (i.e. you could care less and it is obvious) the girl is going to rightly assume that there is an ulterior motive that is governing the interaction. This suspicion is creepiness. Now you might have a genuine interest but still seem off because you are nervous… | /r/seduction | 09/02/12 08:15 PM |
| 3 | The Only Remaining Difficult Thing For Me: Moving TargetIn my experience the most important thing you can do here is the "I only have a minute" or "do you have a couple of seconds?" preamble. When I forget to use a line like that, I invariably get "I'm sorry I'm really in a hurry" from the girl. Other than that just move quickly. Clearly you aren't likely to take the girl home right then and there - so just be a gentleman and traverse from the opening comment to laughing and playful chat to getting her number ASAP. Out of a coffee shop I'll usually d… | /r/seduction | 08/02/12 04:21 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Follow-up phone conversation. Perfect execution.So you failed with the girl a year ago and were still able to get a date? This makes me want to make a facebook. I think the phone conversation sounds like it was handled well, I would shoot her a text tomorrow at 3-4 as a reminder so you decrease her odds of flaking (obviously, don't turn it into a convo though). The facebook chat thing sounds a little stupid to me to be honest, but I don't think there is much space on the spectrum of instant messaging/texting between asshole and gay, which is … | /r/seduction | 08/02/12 03:29 AM |
| 5 | Need some advice on mixed signals.It could mean a lot of things. She is in your lab group, so it wouldn't be very political of her to blow you off for a number so she might just be giving to you with a do-not-call-me-to-go-out provision attached to it. Or maybe she doesn't want to seem easy or maybe she is unsure since you are being so wishy-washy, etc. You'll never know unless you ask her (which you shouldn't, unless you are really smooth). In a lot of ways the damage is already done here, so let me give you some advice on how … | /r/seduction | 08/02/12 03:18 AM |
| 11 | As somebody "studying" pick up, this video about reversing gender roles is extremely entertaining to me.I just saw this and /r/videos and knew it would already be here. I thought it was really well done and funny, but it sort of weirded me out, not sure why. On a more serious note this is fucking gold if you are looking to not be traditional/boring with pick up, even study worthy. You can easily pick out the girls who aren't going to get anywhere (the ones bitching in line, the ones treating the guy with the chest hair like a piece of meat, the dude seated with the girls getting told to take off, … | /r/seduction | 08/02/12 02:51 AM |
| 3 | [FR] Noticing some holes in my game. Looking for critique.I almost always would end up as a sort of dancing monkey I think this is a pretty typical stage for someone who is still learning. I know when I first started going after girls a lot my biggest problem was that I was great at making conversation, but I was entertaining the girls more than seducing them. You feel sort of like Jay Leno as described by Bill Hicks, a cold lifeless sell out who is just going through the motions; a whore. Hicks on Leno, I know that's a hyperbolic description of how I … | /r/seduction | 03/02/12 07:11 PM |
| 6 | [FR] Noticing some holes in my game. Looking for critique.You want a critique, you got it. First, being into "whichever one is the most receptive" is a horrible idea. Or more accurately, looking like you are into whichever one is the most receptive is a bad idea. You don't want to seem like someone who will settle. The girl in question should think that of all her friends, you've picked her, it makes it more special for the girl. This probably hurt you with the red head later on, you just lucked out and happened to be in a room with the girl - it's not… | /r/seduction | 03/02/12 01:10 AM |
| 1 | First date, Quick question."Hey, I was thinking about going to a couple of places tonight, the last one is near my apartment. It probably makes more sense for you to come here first and then we will go out from there. Cool?" "Sure." Problem Solved. It's a real bitch to have her car 15mins away, don't do that to yourself. If her car is right outside she will be way more likely to accept an invitation upstairs. Otherwise, she is basically trapped at your place and relying on you for the ride. | /r/seduction | 02/02/12 02:27 AM |
| 20 | Quick tip/ mini [FR]: Don't hold others' drinksLesson Learned: Hammered girls will make out with anyone. Holding drinks isn't a great idea, but I don't think it's what hurt you here. I would guess that the girl was real drunk and was willing to entertain making out with just about anyone at the time. When I was in college we would have bets on who could make out with the most girls throughout the night - every time the three or four drunkest girls there made out with everyone who was in on the bet. | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 02:01 AM |
| 28 | A Good LTR vs. The Single Life... What are your thoughts Seddit?"Even if you are totally committed to your intimate partner in love, you probably think about having sex with other women. Even if you are totally fulfilled by the sex you share with your woman, you probably still desire sex with other women. Your desire for other women is not a reflection of any lack in your intimacy, it is a reflection of your nature as a masculine sexual being. But this desire is not an excuse for promiscuity, any more than your enjoyment of TV is an excuse for becoming an ob… | /r/seduction | 29/01/12 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Anyone looking to sarge in Providence?I'm just over an hour away and couldn't imagine the trip would be worth it for me. I do however frequent Foxwoods and would be happy to invite you to come hang out the next time we go. There are tons of high quality girls there and at least 50% are staying at the hotel right above the club so it's more or less fish in a barrel. I'm not sure what you are looking for, but I've met a good amount from Providence and Newport. Maybe you could hook up with one from your area and then start going out wi… | /r/seduction | 27/01/12 09:06 PM |
| 27 | I took molly and for five hours was a GOD to all women. Can I reproduce this sober? You want to read this.It's important to remember that this is the experience of someone who is high on drugs. The reality of the situation is probably a bit different, people are probably a little freaked out that his pupils are massive and that he seems to be getting off by rubbing their shoulder. Let's remember that MDMA is chemically activating your brain's reward mechanisms, so even if you look like an idiot you feel like you are awesome. The result is that a lot of times you might be doing something creepy or aw… | /r/seduction | 27/01/12 04:55 PM |
| 18 | All of my recent success has been with drunk or fat chicks or a combination of both and it's not for lack of trying with better looking women. Feeling extremely discouraged, need a pick me up.In my college days I was a very serious poker player. As any sane poker player will tell you, it is a game of very high variance. You could play every hand to perfection and go bust in minutes. What the good players do is learn that the most important part of their game is not to let losing some money change their strategy. I had stints where I would be losing half my bankroll in a week and I wouldn't waiver. I just stuck to what I knew and grinded it out. Pick up is also a game with high varian… | /r/seduction | 26/01/12 12:53 AM |
| 5 | This is what's possible if you continue the journey...I would imagine that if you gave most people here 100 approaches or so worth of film footage they would be able to compile a 5 minute highlight reel about this good. It's not about continuing the journey - it's about getting out and talking to people. | /r/seduction | 26/01/12 12:27 AM |
| 1 | RSD Infield footage: Tyler pulls (literally) a stunner from a taxiThis is the best comment I've read on Seddit in my 2 years here. | /r/seduction | 23/01/12 08:25 PM |
| 52 | Seddit, I need some sage advice on how to stop overthinking and worrying.The Super Ego is a real motherfucker. It is always going to judge you, it always wants things to be perfect and for the most part it will only get in your way. From an evolutionary standpoint, it exists as a mechanism to prevent us from trying to achieve too much - so we don't try to fuck the tribe leader's wife or push ourselves to try a physical activity that may kill us. The cool thing is that anxiety is a completely empty feeling. If you love someone and really dig down and observe that emot… | /r/seduction | 23/01/12 08:12 PM |
| 1 | I have a 'condition' that sometimes makes me walk with a limp. How to overcome?The best thing you can possibly do is be comfortable with it. Try looking at yourself in your head (i.e. your "ideal self") and work the limp into it. If you are a big dude maybe you are a guy who just pushes through pain to have a good time sometimes - if you are smart, maybe you're the type with an unprecedented level of intellectual prowess and work the limp into the I'm-a-fucking-genius archetype. Fact of the matter is, if you limp up to a really cute girl with total acceptance of your condi… | /r/seduction | 23/01/12 07:57 PM |
| 3 | Going out in a few hours. Give me your best moves, and I will try as many as possible and report back tomorrow.Back toward the wall looking out towards the bar/club/coffee shop = outward face to the wall = inward | /r/seduction | 22/01/12 07:20 AM |
| 6 | Going out in a few hours. Give me your best moves, and I will try as many as possible and report back tomorrow.It's always better for the girl to have you cornered than vice versa. So when you start talking to her slowly turn your body so eventually she is facing inwards and you are facing outwards. I would say try not to make it obvious - but I've done it a bunch of times where I thought I was being really obvious and no one really picked up on it - so don't worry about that. Just slowly shift your body while you are talking and let her move hers until you have a good position. I don't know why it matte… | /r/seduction | 22/01/12 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Question about one night standsI'm not saying to force yourself on her. Just show that you are interested in her and give her ample opportunity to do the same. Usually I'll just be playful and smile and crack a few jokes - it's not like I'm giving her a medical exam. I just try to topically keep on stuff that lets her get the hint that I'm interested in a one night stand (as described above) and not stuff that would only interest me if I wanted to date her. If I want to bed a girl tonight, I am generally pretty apathetic abou… | /r/seduction | 17/01/12 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Question about one night standsSince I've been sticking to this method, I've probably had 15 or so one nighters. Out of those 15(ish), I've had 3 clingers and of those three only one who wasn't understanding after I told them I wasn't into a relationship. Generally they take it quite well and if I run into them again or anything we just keep it light and flirty. Eventually everyone will run into the "omg I can't believe you used me!" girl - but they are exceedingly rare and usually basket cases anyways. | /r/seduction | 17/01/12 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Question about one night standsMorality is a tough thing to bring up around these parts, but as it also tends to be important to me, I'll give you my personal stance. Take from it what you wish and leave the rest. If I'm going for a one night stand, that frame is implicit in what I am doing for the night. I'm not talking about how me and her should do some interesting hobby together, or how she is exactly my type (in any way but physically) or how I feel like I have so much in common with her. I've found that although stuff l… | /r/seduction | 17/01/12 08:34 PM |
| -1 | Why I feel social anxiety/approach anxiety is so hard for me to overcome.Deadlines? Are you fucking kidding me? Having a love-life isn't a homework assignment. When you woke up this morning you should find the idea of waking up tomorrow still alone with no romantic prospects to share your gifts with as unacceptable. Being more intimate with your laptop than a human being over the past couple of years should make you want to vomit in a desperate attempt to purge yourself of what you have become. Sharing yourself in a romantic/intimate way with another person is one of… | /r/seduction | 17/01/12 05:42 PM |
| 4 | How to do day game in a closed environment without getting a reputation?Sounds like you go to my old university, same size and I swear I would always run into the same people and it was a ghost town without the students. What I did (with pretty good success) was indirect unless I was okay with other people knowing/discussing that I was hitting on the girl, then I'd go direct. So if there was just some bombshell I don't know that walks in that totally intimidates everyone - I'm cool with people saying I hit on that girl. Conversely, if I'm trying to get with a girl w… | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 05:42 AM |
| 1 | What are the best places to live to date/meet girls?Depends on what job - generally there are a lot of opportunities but there are also a ton of fresh out of college kids who are looking to snatch them up. High supply, high demand. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 05:07 AM |
| 1 | What are the best places to live to date/meet girls?There are two places I've been that are miles above the rest in terms of what you are looking for: South Boston/Brighton/Allston - 200,000 girls 18-22, S.B. tends to be slightly older but not much. Smokeshows everywhere and everyone is down for a good time. You also see a lot of the same people at the same bars so despite the tremendous volume of hotties it feels close knit. Charleston, SC - DEAR GOD, if you are here during wedding season it is the best place on earth. Even when it isn't there a… | /r/seduction | 29/12/11 04:27 PM |
| 11 | Thoughts on escalating sexual conversation?Basically the girl could take it two ways, threateningly or playfully. They key is to keep it so sexuality seems to be coming to the surface peripherally, then if she identifies with the thread and applies it to herself then make a playful comment/face/smile/gesture. They key is to let her apply the sexual thread to herself, don't force it on her because that is going to make a bunch of biological alarms go off in her head. As an example, let's take a recent conversation I had that I've drastica… | /r/seduction | 23/12/11 03:12 AM |
| 1 | I can get the girl, keep her interested, but can't move forward. Now what?Pursue the girl and make it clear that you are pursuing her but don't make it a big deal by using humor and playing on words so it's just innocent flirting with a clear intent. Then she will be expecting you to make a move (and will be more likely to put you in a position that is accommodating to this end). | /r/seduction | 20/12/11 08:54 PM |
| 3 | Direct approaches and why you should be doing themI don't even think there should as big of a distinction as there is between direct and indirect game. I can't read the girl's mind, but she must know I'm hitting on her when I have a big grin on my face over directions to a coffee joint. To the best of my knowledge no one is advocating not blatantly hitting on the girl - it's just a difference of if you state your interest, which probably is obvious to her already. | /r/seduction | 20/12/11 05:55 AM |
| 1 | This is what alpha looks like.Ultimately though the whole idea they are trying to sell you here (aka consume/drink beer by sexy) goes against what I would see as the core of pua (self help, inner game) Couldn't agree more. I've always been of the conviction that confidence isn't derived from imitation. A strong personality isn't something that you try on - it's something that is backed up by substance. If someone tried to act like this guy (or when people try to act like Bond, or Hank Moody, or whoever) they would (do) look … | /r/seduction | 20/12/11 05:47 AM |
| 8 | Guys, I need your help working on confidence.When I was 20 I was pretty much the exact same way. I'm not speaking for you here, but at least in my case a lot of it was that I was concerned with how I was being perceived by others. A lot of people will tell you that everyone is way to concerned about themselves to even notice - there is a lot of truth to this, but even when I accepted this I still struggled. The problem with me was what some psychoanalysts call "the big other" - I was determining who I was by imagining how other perceive me… | /r/seduction | 16/12/11 10:45 PM |
| 4 | this guy knows how it's done.I think this dude has something going on besides being nerdy, if that's the case then it isn't cool to laugh at this. | /r/seduction | 02/12/11 07:35 PM |
| 3 | How do I not give a fuck?I was a very slow learner sexually. It took me like 20+ girls to get anything respectable down. When I was in the middle of this rut around my sophomore year in college - I would have sex and then freak out and get all this anxiety about what a girl was going to say or whatever when I saw them again at a party or a bar. It really fucked with me because I thought that I would be totally mortified if my friends found out - or if I got a reputation for not knowing what I'm doing in bed. One night I… | /r/seduction | 25/10/11 05:55 AM |
| 2 | Two major problems: no car,no place to bring the girl back to. How would you go about it?Askseddit? Prompt the girl to make an invitation. Something like, "It was great hanging out and I wish we could spend more time together tonight." Usually they will suggest something if they are into you. Also hugely important to find out what the girl's living situation is early - does she have her own place? Roommates? Is she comfortable with bringing people back? You can find all of this out through conversation. Then act accordingly - bounce to a place right by her apartment (look on yelp fo… | /r/seduction | 21/10/11 08:37 PM |
| 1 | So I notice there's no good seduction material and guides about first dates.There is a lot of good stuff in these comments. What I usually do is just have a pretty standard date planned and have two or three pretty awesome/unique ideas about what I could do after once I gauge how everything is going and figure out what kind of girl she is. For whatever reason I've had much more success when I do the standard date first (lunch, coffee, walking around, shopping, etc.) then bounce directly to a more laid-back atmosphere (beach bonfire with friends, cliff jumping, party, wa… | /r/seduction | 21/10/11 08:29 PM |
| 1 | [xMODx] FREE Personal PUA progress tracking APP: Reviewing and getting features addedI think this is a great idea but I wouldn't want it on my phone unless you could run it pretty clandestinely. I'd rather be a bit unorganized and not have good numbers about my success then have some girl put her number into my pick up artist trainer application on my iphone - I mean, how lame can you get. | /r/seduction | 21/10/11 08:16 PM |
| 1 | If you are struggling with inner game, try not thinking about James Bond or molding yourself to some ideal and instead accept that people aren't perfect and try to love them (and yourself) anyway.You're* I'm not sure what I'm quoting, the material here is self written and is what has worked specifically for me in developing a stronger inner game. If you mean the stuff that tells you to do as James Bond (or whoever else) it's everywhere - Magic Bullets, Mystery Method, RSD - just to name a few off the top of my head. | /r/seduction | 21/10/11 08:08 PM |
| 3 | If you are struggling with inner game, try not thinking about James Bond or molding yourself to some ideal and instead accept that people aren't perfect and try to love them (and yourself) anyway.Upvoted, fair critique. I would still argue that taking a general pathos from Bond isn't the right way to do things since the appeal is written toward the audience rather than the fictitious interactions in the movie (the writers control the characters, so there is no need to influence them). But I suppose if it was taken as a broad and superficial analogy it could be valuable. I have no field tested experience that would contradict this. | /r/seduction | 21/10/11 04:05 PM |
| 3 | David Foster Wallace on why you give a fuckDFW is my all-time favorite writer, ever. That said I would question how valuable his words are to this specific community. In many cases (even here I would argue) his words are anxiety. Even though in this specific passage he is critiquing it, his prose are pushing you to feel it. I always come away from him understanding the stupidity of why I feel a certain way, yet further ensconced in the habit. I would proceed here with caution... | /r/seduction | 20/10/11 10:36 PM |
| 2 | [FR] 2 - Tuesday - Uni night success - 50+ openers, 10ish numbers, few Kcloses & FClosed a hot soon to be doctor on beach/park bench - Best night yet :)Too bad I'm in the states because I would love to see you in action. I've been out with a lot of people who just open everyone and have never seen anyone not end up looking like a clown doing it. People would be asking who the weird dude is that keeps talking to everyone, or he would meet the same group twice, like you did and eventually people would start to get suspicious and defensive about them infiltrating their group...all that shit. Just from watching that happen a few too many times, I u… | /r/seduction | 20/10/11 06:12 AM |
| 2 | Paul "It's All Fucking Business" JankaI was watching and then looked at them holding hands and wondered how they got to do that - so I re-watched it and missed it again. What a pro | /r/seduction | 14/10/11 08:43 PM |
| 2 | A few videos that I thought were helpfulUpvoted for including Branson. This dude is lightyears ahead of everyone else out there. No one really knows it though (not even him). | /r/seduction | 14/10/11 05:15 AM |
| 1 | Don't let alcohol become your crutch.It is worth saying that things are a bit different depending on the age range that you are in. In college, people who drink heavily will get laid more since there is pretty much an implicit agreement that courting women in college consists of, talking to them, getting drunk with them then having sex with them. (It was always a bonus if I had a brief interaction with them sober, then "got to know them" at the bar/party.) I've found that as you leave college and go into the working young professio… | /r/seduction | 14/10/11 04:47 AM |
| 3 | [FR] From OkCupid to my bed, here's how I did it (with pictures)You better hope Elizabeth doesn't read /r/seduction. I play the same card with LMR. I've found that it works about 80% of the time and you end up giving up first date sex for regular sex later on. This was tough when the girl was my only potential go-to at the time, but once you have two or three it doesn't really matter and is well worth it. With the other 20% who give me LMR heavy on the 2nd time as well, I usually make one last ditch plow effort and if that doesn't work then I pull the plug (… | /r/seduction | 14/10/11 04:33 AM |
| 1 | What Would You Like Us to Do?I'll quote a comment I made as well Instead of creating an AskSeddit, I bet it would have been better to create AdvancedPickUp (or something like that). People who are looking to get into this are going to find this subreddit first and then may or may not read the sidebar - then even if they do they are going to want to submit their question to the more active subreddit. By creating AdvancedPickup, then all the people who are here a lot or just want out of all these beginner questions would actu… | /r/seduction | 14/10/11 04:14 AM |
| 13 | After eye contact IOIs in public places (walking to class,) it is often said to go and talk to her. My question is: ABOUT WHAT!?If you have no friends and don't converse during the day at all - I don't think you should even be concentrating on picking up girls. That's sort of a big leap. Slowly build. If you speak 3-4 words per day, tomorrow you should go for a 3 or 4 sentences but keep it simple (ask a classmate about a homework assignment or something). Then the next day ask two people simple questions, then start trying to shoot the shit a bit and improvise, ask these people how their weekend was, etc. Then once you f… | /r/seduction | 11/10/11 03:47 AM |
| 2 | About suppressing negative feelingsThere is an interesting psychological duality that you're bringing up here. The fact of the matter is that the bulk of the seduction community will most likely tell you that faking it until you make it is going to give you your best chance with women while psychological journals and the bunch will mostly tell you that you need to confront what is going on in order to truly move past it. It is my feeling that both are wrong. If you look at the mirror and smile everyday you will actually become ha… | /r/seduction | 09/10/11 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Touch, when to and where?DiCarlo Escalation Ladder - AskSeddit | /r/seduction | 01/10/11 06:13 PM |
| 35 | The quality of this subreddit is decreasingInstead of creating an AskSeddit, I bet it would have been better to create AdvancedPickUp (or something like that). People who are looking to get into this are going to find this subreddit first and then may or may not read the sidebar - then even if they do they are going to want to submit their question to the more active subreddit. By creating AdvancedPickup, then all the people who are here a lot or just want out of all these beginner questions would actually go to APU. In other words, ther… | /r/seduction | 01/10/11 05:54 PM |
| 2 | [FR] New to solo (incl. ensuing text banter) - Not sure how to proceed with new HB! LONG. TLDR present.My critique of the texts: HB9: Haha it's all good! Hope you had a great night too! 2:20 AM Me: You have no idea. Tonight got.. wild. It was 20% more awesome than normal. 2:20 AM Horrible. No time delay and she already more or less ended the conversation - I would have waited until the next day here. HB9: Hahaha very nice! 10:25 AM Me: Spagetti burrito has to be the best kitchen creation ever! Much better than the ranch Slim Jims I 'invented' when I was stoned. 11:27 AM Just by using a small time… | /r/seduction | 30/09/11 06:22 PM |
| 3 | I have zero connections at my university and I need to know how to entertain a possible date tonight/tomorrow.I went to a pretty big school with a college town - so I'm not sure if this will apply or not depending on what your school is like. When I first starting doing well with girls for whatever reason I was insecure about it with my college friends (basically because since I didn't usually bed smoke-shows people were just being curious and looking at us a lot or would say "nice catch, how did you pull this off?" or something similar). In short, it was because my frame control was too weak to not see… | /r/seduction | 30/09/11 05:56 PM |
| 2 | How do you guys deal with depression?I hate to advocate an ideology like this, but I have a similar thing and can't tell you how much Buddhism has helped (specifically the out of your mind lectures by Alan Watts). Check them out if you have time. | /r/seduction | 29/09/11 03:45 AM |
| 3 | 5 minute video on psychological "priming." TL;DW a person makes more positive decisions when they feel warmth.This could be really great stuff, I would love to read the actual papers that this guy is publishing. I've been looking on google unsuccessfully, but I'll post them as a reply to this if I can find any. Also want to know if the participant (the guy who was being judged) knew what temperature cup they were holding or if all the cold cup people and hot cup people were present in homogenous groups. The first could manufacture the effect, while the second could augment it drastically. | /r/seduction | 29/09/11 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Seddit, help a girl out?I don't think I'm in a position to tell you where you will find the type of confident and independent guy you are looking for, we come in a bunch of different packages. My advice would be to check out a posh lounge, a club and a hotel bar (and I'm telling you, Irish Pubs are gold as well) then you will get a feel for what type of guys you will find at each venue. Also, don't limit yourself to nightlife. You could meet some guy at a driving range, skiing, boating, whatever. What matters is puttin… | /r/seduction | 29/09/11 03:32 AM |
| 1 | I've finally admitted that I need to improve myself, and r/seduction is where I want to learn to do it.Welcome man. There is a ton of shit to learn, but most of it is redundant from one book to the next. I would start to read up (Magic Bullets is a good starter) and read seddit - eventually you will start to fit everything you learn into something that works great for you. Some guys look at it like they are playing a video game or something and are really formulaic while others are totally spontaneous and just use basic concepts. With approaches and learning you will find what fits you best. Just… | /r/seduction | 28/09/11 07:26 AM |
| 2 | [FR] F-closed my first HB9; still seeing her. Her turn on? Confidence. Also, being pushed through my AA scored me a hot FWB.Seems like your not being needy here at all, which is great. A lot of guys would just want sex and escalate even if the girl had work early the next morning or tried to pull her home upon meeting her. Instead you just stayed confident, let her know that you wanted her but at the same time conveyed an image that you don't really need her. Sounds like you have real solid dating game, I would love to read another one on an initial pickup. | /r/seduction | 28/09/11 07:18 AM |
| 2 | Seddit, help a girl out?It sounds like you have having more of a problem getting high quality guys to talk to you rather than guys in general. If this is the case I would suggest going to places where really hot girls are since this is going to be where high quality men hang out. You seem like a pretty sweet, level headed girl and believe me - when you go around talking to psychotic girls who have major issues all night and find a cute one with her head on straight, it doesn't matter if you aren't the best looking one … | /r/seduction | 28/09/11 07:09 AM |
| 6 | Today I cried like a little bitch.First off, you need to chill out. If you are carrying all of this around with you then whatever girl you do decide to eventually talk to is going to be freaked the fuck out. Secondly, I have always advocated getting over AA with a friend. I wrote this a second ago, but it seems important to your situation as well: To your friend: "Hey man those two girls look cute, let's go talk to them." Then give it your best shot. Generally you and your buddy are going to be a package deal unless you actually… | /r/seduction | 27/09/11 01:21 AM |
| 2 | Am I hopeless? - Introvert w/ AATo your friend: "Hey man those two girls look cute, let's go talk to them." Then give it your best shot. Generally you and your buddy are going to be a package deal unless you actually progress and break into rapport. So if you fail, you fail together. Then fucking laugh about it after. Play a game with it, the first person to leave has to buy the next round of drinks - no matter how awkward it gets. Or do a themed approach - work in as many body parts into the conversation as possible without t… | /r/seduction | 27/09/11 12:59 AM |
| 1 | How can you tell is woman is being reserved/holding back?As someone who has had the same thing happen to him and just continued to let the girl sleep in his bed I recommend that you hang out with her again and be cool. Then when she thinks you two are going to go snuggle for an hour before going to sleep, say something along these lines: "Look, I think you are awesome, but I'm really not willing to put myself in this position anymore. If you have issues you have to figure out, I think you should do that before I'm comfortable with letting this continu… | /r/seduction | 27/09/11 12:47 AM |
| 1 | I'd love a detailed write up on investment and showing valueI'm not all that by the book anymore, but for me investment literally meant getting a girl so spend ANYTHING on me (time, money, energy, thought, even frustration). Once you have someone on your mind you are not going to want to just let them go, all the above are used to simply do that. Pretty simple on such a broad level. Specifically it becomes much more complicated because you have to arrange for these things to happen with it seeming like you are putting minimal (if any) effort in. This is … | /r/seduction | 27/09/11 12:33 AM |
| 1 | What interesting things can I wear to use as conversation starters?Anything that is good luck. Usually this means you will have a few stories to go with it which play as rapport builders later on and could even be used to disarm girls. If you make out with a girl then show her your totem and say something like, "I told you it was lucky." Then boom, you've framed you and her as something that is going to happen because of force beyond her control. A good totem could be handy from meet to close. Get one. | /r/seduction | 27/09/11 12:17 AM |
| 3 | Friend attempting to talk me up. He sucks at it, says I'm a nice/great guy and all the such. How do I shut this down?If you have solid game it doesn't matter how they frame you. I've pushed girls toward my friend under the guise of "His girlfriend just broke his heart and he is a real nice guy and could probably just use to talk for a bit. Since you have a boyfriend you would probably be perfect..." Then she goes over to him and he is totally confident and cool and collected and starts getting her to qualify for him after she basically went over there because I got her to feel bad. Next thing I know the girl w… | /r/seduction | 27/09/11 12:11 AM |
| 0 | How many #s does it take for each one who actually responds?I'm going to get lambasted for saying this, but I've found that it works well to get just a bit awkward when you ask for the number. If I do the whole, pull-my-phone-out-and-assume thing it's great because I get rejected much less - but I often get blown off when I call later on. Now when I go in for the number I get a bit shy and fumble a bit and by no means assume she will give it to me. Something as simple as "You seem like your a lot of fun, maybe we could do this again sometime (hang out ag… | /r/seduction | 26/09/11 11:59 PM |
| 7 | Got a date this Thursday. We've kissed already. How do I invite her home without it looking like I wanna have sex?Relevant | /r/seduction | 26/09/11 11:48 PM |
| 2 | How do you escalate with a female virgin?Slowly. | /r/seduction | 24/09/11 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Fearless.Hahahah, it was 6am. I didn't have anything better to do... I think the general idea is that you need to be the one in charge of social interactions to gain power from them. He probably thought that if he took charge of my group's social interaction he would be this super alpha cool guy who we all liked and would fuck his target. (He said something similar to this when he was talking to me.) If you aren't afraid of people not liking you, this isn't an issue. I've used some PUA to the letter (mys… | /r/seduction | 17/03/11 04:31 AM |
| 1 | How often do you guys keep in contact with girls you've already closed?If a girl is willing to give you more time than you are willing to give her, your gold my friend. When she invites you to something and you don't feel like going, be nice and give her an excuse. When you want some action and don't have anyone left to call - call her up, she will come. Only downside is that your going to have a lot of texts from girls blowing up your cell all the time. Well worth it. | /r/seduction | 17/03/11 03:45 AM |
| 10 | [FR] This is a long one, but a great night with an F-close.I think the best thing you did was turn around the guy friend getting you her number. Nice moves. | /r/seduction | 16/03/11 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Is teasing a must?I'm not doing that dude. What does it matter what a guy thinks anyways? If you really want to know go on chat-roulette and ask 10 girls (might take a while to get 10 girls) for brutal honesty and average all the responses. That would give you a much better idea than I could. | /r/seduction | 09/03/11 08:14 AM |
| 1 | How do you keep going?Thinking in terms of "I failed that test, oh shit! I'm going to fail this class now!" or "I don't have a job yet and all my friends do what the fuck am I going to do?!" Is an inherently low self-esteem outlook on life. The point of seddit is to make your frame of mind better, which will in turn make your life better. Someone who is in the right frame will not worry about a bad test or not getting a job offer, they will just be confident that things will eventually go right and keep working accor… | /r/seduction | 09/03/11 04:34 AM |
| 2 | Is teasing a must?Next time, please post this in /r/askseddit. As for an answer, your asking a pretty complicated question. Teasing isn't a must, but getting the girl to qualify for you is. To get a girl to qualify for you without even giving her the opportunity is pretty tough. Her frame of mind upon seeing you would have to be, "I want to fuck this guy so bad, I have to go talk to him." Unless your famous or just the coolest motherfucker ever, this isn't going to happen. If you can figure out a way to make wome… | /r/seduction | 09/03/11 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Is intelligence/"book smarts" actually considered an attractive trait by women?I'd like to take a shot at this. At root what matters to women is your social status. Back in the caveman/ape days in our evolution, social status was almost entirely dependent on your breeding capability. The better your genes, the higher your social status. Now because we don't function like that anymore, people can achieve a social status that is higher or lower than their genetic makeup (or in other words, genes have gone from yielding social status alone, to now being one of many factors th… | /r/seduction | 09/03/11 04:06 AM |
| 3 | David Wygant is Here in this thread to ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS! Q&A TIME!Hey David, Welcome. I've had a couple of different girls tell me that I'm difficult to approach but once they start talking to me I'm a lot of fun. The girls who I don't make a cold approach to are always the ones that work out better for me (if a girl is brought into our group by a friend or if she opens to me, for example). I almost always enjoy these conversations more and way more often develop a romantic relationship from this kind of meeting rather than a cold approach. When I just go in f… | /r/seduction | 23/02/11 03:36 AM |
| 7 | REMINDER: David Wygant Q&A Session TONIGHT at 7PM PST!! DON'T MISS IT!!Anyone else refreshing this every minute or so hoping they aren't missing it? | /r/seduction | 23/02/11 03:12 AM |
| 0 | A shy guy's [FR] with #-close/potential coffee date. What next?Yep. I've always done much better talking about ideological stuff with women over the material. Where she was born, how much she likes her job, etc...what a bore. Find a particular ideological point of interest and engage her on it. Just don't make it complex or overtly political. For example, "Does it bother you that the republican and democratic party are basically just two facets of the a larger pro-business party that runs a tyranny over american politics?" is bad unless you get really lucky… | /r/seduction | 22/02/11 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Pinker on Language and Social RelationsRSA has really amazing talks. Personally I prefer them over TED. They do those real cool animations sparingly though, so once you watch them all its going to be a month or so until they get a new one up, which is pretty annoying. Always worth checking once in a while though - Zizek and Ken Robinson are my two other favorites. | /r/seduction | 22/02/11 05:28 AM |
| 2 | So what do I do on a date?You might want to x-post to askseddit and include a few things about your situation. Dating expectations are different for a 17 year old and a 40 year old and a lot depends on the type of girl your bringing out. | /r/seduction | 21/02/11 07:43 PM |
| 8 | Pinker on Language and Social RelationsI thought this was absolutely brilliant. The key thing I took away from this is that layered language exists to keep the real meaning as individual knowledge rather than mutual knowledge. When it is made explicit that both people know what is going on, this creates resistance because it can be incongruous with either person's relationship type. The amount someone will let you get away with if your being indirect will always be greater than if you are direct because they have to be the one who ch… | /r/seduction | 21/02/11 04:43 PM |
| 2 | PUA Challenge: Get a number from a girl sitting next to you in traffic. Take it all the way to an F-close.This is happening. Going to be tough work in my volkswagen though... | /r/seduction | 18/02/11 08:42 AM |
| 4 | [FR] Awesome night out in a ski town.Al sounds like the man. In my experience a good wing will always buy his bud and the girl he is talking to a shot. It's great, especially if she hadn't been introduced to this guy and he just shows up with a shot for you and her just because she is talking to you. Makes you look alpha as fuck. Make sure you have Al's back and buy him and his target a shot the next chance you get. | /r/seduction | 18/02/11 08:35 AM |
| 2 | [fR] Failure on multiple levelsFrom my understanding of 60 - I think he would argue that the OP didn't actually fail the set. On both occasions it seems like he withdrew before the girls could reject him. This is a huge difference. 60 advocates to just keep pushing until you get blown out (or laid), not getting scared and stopping escalation. | /r/seduction | 18/02/11 08:23 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Getting Punched and Still Picking Up GirlsOne punch and you needed stitches? That kid might be a stalker, but he sure as hell can throw a punch. Did he drop your buddy in one shot as well or did your friend just dive for cover after he saw what he was up against? Also, no offense, but I feel like this could have been posted anywhere on reddit. FR's are good to know how you gamed the girl - not how you got whacked by some asshole in a bar. You did a much better job at describing the latter. | /r/seduction | 18/02/11 08:04 AM |
| 55 | Plea to seddit - PLEASE READYour putting a lot of work in trying to make this sub better. AskSeddit was a rather brilliant way of pushing the same redundant questions all into one place and the IAMAmPUA thing with Savoy was awesome. This is worth saying. Just thought I'd give you (and all the others who are working hard) the credit they deserve. | /r/seduction | 18/02/11 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Crippling need for friends' approval makes it almost impossible for me to start learning seductionMale friends? I really couldn't imagine a guy responding badly to "I've been reading a lot of stuff on how to take advantage of female psychology and use it to my advantage to pick up women." Just about every friend I have would immediately become interested in this - if he does well with women or not. If you go out and start trying to spit a ton of game out of nowhere they might want to know wtf is going on though. Just let a few know about it. Play it casually be like, "my friend from told me … | /r/seduction | 18/02/11 03:00 AM |
| 1 | NotepadI guess, but it isn't all that difficult to figure out who they are by context usually. It's not like I don't keep a contact list at all or anything - so if I get a text from someone who isn't listed that usually narrows the possibilities down to two or three people. | /r/seduction | 17/02/11 08:16 PM |
| 12 | looking for advice.. girl flaking after 3 datesThis man is right. This girl was waiting for you to make a move on the third date and wanted you to think of something to extend the 2nd. The fact that you didn't make a move at all over the course of three dates (including for 25mins sitting in a car "talking"!) has the girl thinking you don't know what your doing. What are you worried about man? Make a move! | /r/seduction | 17/02/11 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Jungian Psychology re: Relationships.Brillant post, thank you. Could you recommend any readings on/by Jung for someone who is not very familiar with him? | /r/seduction | 16/02/11 12:32 AM |
| 3 | What does Seddit think of the "Kade Scale"? Is it unfair, or just another flavour of HBx?I'd take all your 9's over your 10's. | /r/seduction | 14/02/11 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Recently out of LTR. Here's what I've been up to. Feedback/suggestions appreciated!I'd just like to comment on the social aspect. I'd imagine that people who meet up with others via internet groups can be a little socially awkward as you suggested. Mostly when your using online forums (even seddit) to meet wingmen the group of guys your getting with are people who have had serious problems socially and are reading game to help themselves out. I think this is awesome, but if your socially adept you might be handicapping yourself by hanging out with a awkward group (despite thei… | /r/seduction | 14/02/11 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Seddit's Theory on Texting vs. Calling.Couldn't agree more. I'll also add that your given much more leeway in the actual content of what you say over the phone. I think this is because your creating a more visceral experience for her (she hears your voice, your laugh, feels intimacy, pictures your face, etc.) for the girl rather than the pure text reaction of read - respond. Your also giving the girl more of an opportunity to say something stupid (or think that she did) because she doesn't have time to calculate responses. This is gr… | /r/seduction | 14/02/11 01:35 AM |
| 2 | I can't closeMost likely this means your not comfortable with your own sexuality. To a lot of people having game just means starting a good conversation with a good looking girl. It might look nice at a party or a bar, but it will be tremendously frustrating in the long run. The convo should have a sexual vibe from the start and you should never be afraid to let a girl know you want to have sex with her (as long as you don't let her know like a chump). Think about it like this, would the most alpha-ladykille… | /r/seduction | 14/02/11 01:20 AM |
| 2 | Why the fuck is there so much conflicting information out there?That's the best reading on PUA material I've ever read. Thanks a ton for the great link. | /r/seduction | 10/02/11 03:07 AM |
| 2 | Need help closing?I had the exact same problem. I'll tell you my story and how I fixed it, hopefully some of this applies to you as well. In college I started reading PUA stuff after my piece of shit friend managed to get a girl over me that we were both interested in. He was shorter than me, not as good looking as me or athletic and not as social. So I decided, fuck this, I'm just gonna get with a ton of girls while he gets with just this one. So I just started approaching girls everywhere...I'm a pretty social … | /r/seduction | 26/01/11 12:19 AM |
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