I've been asked to write FR's - so I figure I might as well start with a failure as there is always more to learn in defeat.
Skill Level: Solid. An F-Close every 3 weeks or so and a number or two just about every time I go out. Usually one or two girls in the pipeline...
Background:
Went out to a college bar with 4 guys, only one of which was worth winging with. We are fresh graduates so we can blend it pretty easily without being weird. I started with a lot of direct stuff to warm up and just try to get our guy friends a group of girls to talk to so we could have some proof, but usually just ended up isolating one of the girls while my friends peered over my shoulder. One # close doing this, but these were basically warm ups. As the night progresses I start to run into more and more people I know and begin to be able to move around a bit without having to be alone or opening. I hate just sitting with 4 guys at a table - but it get's weird when they are your social proof. So once things open up a bit I start to move around.
Approach:
Me and my wing see two girls (HB7, HB5) by the bar being loud and fun so we figured we might as well get the ball rolling with them. I open HB7 and my buddy was sort of cut off because of my angle of approach, so he chilled for a minute or so, ordered drinks and then came in and introduced himself. My opening was an over the shoulder turn at something HB7 said loud that was inappropriate - from there I took over with ease. Stayed in a real "just being social/don't give a fuck frame" and the girl ate it right up.
The dynamic however slowly evolved into shit. Me and my friend were both sort of excluding the HB5 (she seemed to have low self-confidence and back away a few steps behind her friend as we were talking) so I decided to pass the HB7 to my buddy since he seemed pretty interested (he's happy with whatever) and it was still early.
Mid-Game:
I go back around and continue a few of my warm up sets while periodically checking in with my hub of guy friends sitting at a table. I ran into an old friend who talked me into tequila shots, so I ventured up to the bar (trying not to go overboard here) and passed by wing and HB7. The result of this was me peddling between my old friend and HB7 and my wing (they were talking to me, I would let him isolate otherwise) and eventually two tequila shots. One from the old friend, the other from HB7 (she bought my wing 3, I wasn't trying to fuck him up, just thought I'd accept a free shot).
So as I am finishing introducing my old friend to HB7 I am approached by another girl (HB7-#2) . I immediate start qualifying her "Uh, excuse us, who are you?" stuff like that and maintain a cocky/playful frame pretty well. Eventually this turns out into my old friend leaving, and me and my wing talking to HB7 and HB7-#2. HB7-#2 seemed to be into me in a big way after just light teasing and I was stuck between settling on her (I thought it would be a settle) and moving on. Fuck it. So within about 2 minutes we are making out and then make our way outside with my wing and HB7. While we are outside HB7-#2 was all over me (grabbing me, biting me lip, all on my neck as I am talking to my wing, etc.) I tell her to slow down and take it easy, but as everyone here knows - that only made her more into it.
About 10mins later our drinks were empty. I look at HB7-#2 and playfully and ask "so, you buying the next round?" with a smile. "Sure." She gets up and pays for the round. When she comes back my wing and HB7 were just starting to kiss a bit and start moving on their own, but lightly and respectfully (unlike us). After more neck kissing and rubbing and HB7-#2 whispering in my ear how she wants to fuck me, my wing and I decide it is time to bounce and hook up with these girls. They live close by.
My Demise:
So as my friend was handling logistics of how we were getting back to their place. I excused myself to run to the bathroom. When I come back I find HB7-#2 making out with a new guy. When HB7 come up to me, I say, "Well, looks like I won't be joining you two this evening." to which I get a string of bullshit about how they are just friends. I try to maintain a don't-give-a-fuck/cocky frame (who knows how well) and just tell HB7 that her and her friends were a blast and would love to hand out again, but that I should really be going anyways.
Two minutes later I find my wing who tells me the girls got in a 5 person car and he was the 6th person (I drove him there) so he was trapped. We got their numbers, so I told him to save it for another night if he wanted or I could drop him off. He saved it since his go-to had already texted him about meeting up after the bar.
And that was that, we left.
Critique:
Two HUGE mistakes that I should be past by now. First, I went straight from intro to seduction without building any comfort. Of course she is going to flake when it is time to go home. Second, I was isolated and making out and then regressed by going outside rather than isolating. Even though she was still into it, this definitely screwed up my momentum in the end. I have to build comfort. Even if I made out with her and then stopped her and said I hardly knew her and that we should go outside and get to know each other better. That would have been far better than just remaining as the make out guy. The quick make out threw me off, I'm not letting that happen again. As for the end with them leaving, it was a lost cause at that point anyway so I'm not going to even go into it. Also not sure if me being initially iffy on the HB7-#2 played into the equation.
Your critiques and comments are encouraged.
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