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Often when we engage in discussions like these they resort to childish emotional displays. Here, I'm pleasantly surprised by the fact that you genuinely seem interested in an honest debate. I think we can draw a line between entitlement programs and affirmative action. The latter of which being the current topic of discussion. But since you brought it up, certainly some entitlements are warranted. But at the same time, they come at a price. Personally, I'm of the opinion that taxes are already f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:33 PM
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Pragmatically speaking, what's the difference between: help people catch up and attempt to equalize outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:16 PM
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That's not answering the question. Should government attempt to equalize outcomes in the name of fairness?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:06 PM
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Thanks for responding but you didn't really answer the question. I'm asking the normative question of "what should it be". So the first paragraph doesn't really address that. Your second paragraph gets closer, but its ambiguous. What do you mean by "you participate". That being said I agree with "you work, you earn, you make your own success". People constantly are talking about inequality in society and privilege yet they fail to realize that the change they seek will never come from government…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:47 PM
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Here's a question for you: do you believe its the government's role in society to operate as a counterbalance against the relative benefits/detriments each of us have in life as a result of our particular social/familial connections (or lack thereof)?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:34 PM
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Is there an over emphasis on gender relations that actually fuels power imbalance? I tend to agree. The progressive view point is that we live in a male dominated society. This means they will always view the man as being naturally in a position of power. They also seem to believe the only way to remedy the situation is through affirmative action i.e. governmental intervention. Ironically, the natural implication of that is a certain degree of female inferiority. Is there a growing denial of res…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:32 PM
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This is the RP equivalent of linking some outlandish tumblr blog and claiming it represents feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:41 AM
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See this high energy reply from /u/SunnyFoxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:34 AM
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Then they want all the socialist benefits forcing the pussy to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 01:49 AM
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Its pretty simple to understand OP's view. Historically religion has been the primary source of ethics. SJWers want to replace that system of ethics with their own system of ethics. Thus, in many ways their worldview is meant to usurp religion. Hence OP's comparison. The danger is that if they are fully successful they will no longer need to logically defend their positions. Instead they can simply resort to attacking their opponent's ethics/morality until they are shamed into the shadows. Essen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 12:31 AM
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You're making the mistake of viewing RP as an activist group. They aren't trying to change the system. They are just trying to (1) understand the system and (2) optimize their strategy within the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 12:26 AM
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So salty. I'm glad you admit that. Now can you stop complaining about discrimination?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:28 PM
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Who said anything about promiscuity being a problem? A white society should cater to white people. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:06 PM
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...who were white. I'm not white. Sorry, but you can't make me long for the days where I would've been segregated. I get why white people miss it, though. I'm not white either by 1950s standards. That doesn't change the fact that the US is a white country and the 50s were an extremely prosperous time. And I would say your so-called 'decline' right now has an equal chance of being just a 'momentary blip', too. Not when's its been going for 40 years. And not when you look at the overall cycle of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:53 PM
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The "golden age" wasn't golden for everyone. It was golden for whites--wealthy white males and wealthy white females Even the poor ones got left out, just like the minorities. Wrong. It was a golden age for middle class people not just the wealthy. Back then one middle class income could support a family of 5. Good luck trying that today. The worst poverty in the USA happened during what you call the US's 'rise', during the 1930s. You know very well that's misleading. Over the span of that 100 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:25 PM
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Society tends to follow a circular patter: revolution ---> rise ---> golden age ---> decline ---> revolution. It seems rather apparent that we have already hit our revolution (1776), rise (industrial revolution - WW2), golden age (1945-1980), and now we are well into the decline. Hallmarks of the decline are an increase in corruption in government, apathy by the people, and poverty. Look at around pal, its all there for you to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 06:06 PM
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What exactly do you mean by "everything we know"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 04:46 PM
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Who said I thought it was the uptick in promiscuity that was the only indicator of a decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 04:17 PM
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I disagree. You make some bad assumptions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:23 AM
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Depends. If he's doing the analysis as it happens I agree. If it's done later he doesn't lose anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:21 AM
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The point was the post (in a twist of irony) made a ton of assumptions. For example he assumes over analysis leads to bad decisions. I'd argue the opposite is true. Failing to analyze leads to a failure in decision making. Just look at your own link - it says there are two ways to think logical/empathic. It goes on to say empathy is inherently illogical. Don't you see that cuts against what he says? To me your emapthy is more likely to be subjective and misguided while your logic is more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:09 AM
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I'm sorry to be so blunt but what you've written here is rather unintelligible. I'm not sure what you're saying at this point has any basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:56 AM
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This is pretty much the answer. Western women are acclimated to a world free of criticism and being showered with internet likes. Obviously its a bit disconcerting to see a group of men categorize their behaviors and call them out on their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:42 AM
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The fact that you seem to be saying that anger is never an appropriate response is pretty telling if you ask me. This world is quite clearly going to shit from a social perspective. Maturity is being replaced with thrill seeking. Just think about what our society values now. It should make you angry that we've devolved to this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:38 AM
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That's utter bullshit. Anything worth doing is worth deeply analyzing. I don't just go willy nilly into a job interview. I study and gather as much information as I possibly can. I don't even just have a BBQ. I actively plan out the event so its actually a good time. Its not about intricate strategy. Its about understanding the intricacies of the game. Certainly you agree human social interactions are rather intricate. Wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:33 AM
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Every time I think we have it bad in the US I remind myself how shitty the UK is. Then every few months a relatively unbelievable story like this pops up from that shit of an island and I get to partake in some schadenfreude. These pathetic, sackless limeys deserve their pitiful existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:27 AM
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I've actually spoken to my masseuse about that (save the surrogacy part). I've concluded that I can acquire a live in maid, cook, and masseuse for a fraction of the cost of a LTR!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:34 AM
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My calculations work when you consider market value of the labor. Take a look at that chart and look for things like "Childcare Workers", "Food Preparation Workers", " Laundry and Dry-Cleaning Workers", "Dishwashers", etc.. These are the jobs that correlate to the tasks that the average stay at home performs. These jobs also happen to be among the lowest paying jobs in the market. As should be expected for a low-risk, low-skill job. We should also consider that the job of a stay at home can real…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 12:26 AM
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Of course a mortgage is consumption. The vast majority of mortgage payments go toward paying down interest (as opposed to actually lowering the principal of the loan). Wouldn't you say paying the interest on a debt is consumption? In the situation you provided she is still a burden on the community as a whole. She's obviously consuming (i.e. living a lifestyle) in a way that is only made possible because of his higher earning capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:35 PM
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They don't have to match what the other spouse earns, they haveto eual [sic] their own pay. No. They need to produce more than they consume. If the stay at home person's monthly costs are: mortgage $2000/2, car $250, going out to eat $400, entertainment $200, clothes $200, etc. etc. etc. then the value they produce by doing the at home labor needs to exceed those values or they are consuming more than they produce. Otherwise they are a net burden. I'd venture that most stay at home people don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:26 PM
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So all of your clothes are knit? You don't buy any? Get out of here with this contrarian bullshit. You know you're grasping at straws right now or just plain trolling. Here's some actual statistics. Interestingly, while the mean number of vehicles in households is 1.9 personal vehicles, households in the United States on average have 1.8 drivers who are 15 years or older (table A-2). Thus, it appears that households on average have more vehicles than drivers. Getting back to the main point: a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:42 PM
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"Your parents" No one lives like that anymore. It's also viable to knit your clothes by hand. Do you see anyone doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 05:16 PM
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Are you kidding me? Home cooked meals and no car? I don't know what kind of housewives you know. I know plenty. All of them have cars. Usually nicer than their husband's. And they rarely (some never) make a home cooked meal. This isn't the 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:45 AM
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Your experiences shape your beliefs. There's no rational way around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:43 AM
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The human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 04:00 AM
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That's my point you compare year to year. It doesn't make sense (mathematically) to say 40 years of caring for person A costs more than 20 years of caring for person B and thus concluding person B is less expensive. First, it doesn't make sense to compare two unequal time periods. Second, present value of money needs to be accounted for in the equation. If you don't understand why (mathematically) I can help explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:45 PM
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That's a solid point but if we compare year-to-year we see that an obese person, for every year they are alive, tend to cost more than normal individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:39 PM
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It doesn't mean they do either, or that even if they do, it's at all similar to how humans reason. Nor does it explain the human sense of morality that society has adopted that lions don't seem to portray. Would you agree? Of course. They have lion morality. Let's look at another animal who's behavior we are more familiar with: dogs. Wouldn't you say the dog displays a certain, almost human, level of empathy and ethics? How hormones affect the individual is extremely different, person to person.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:38 PM
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You're looking at it wrong. The correct question is does it lead to negative externalities? You're drawing comparisons between externalities but that is a distinction without effect. In any system with socialized health care (single payer) or laws that prohibit price discrimination in health care insurance (e.g. Obamacare) we can understand that obesity creates a negative externality in that it raises costs for everyone, regardless of lifestyle. Either charge them more for healthcare or alternat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:34 PM
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I wouldn't know. I don't have cable. I personally haven't heard of any shaming campaigns. Only anti-shaming campaigns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:25 PM
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They should also pay for any externalities they create through those actions. But going further I disagree that society holds this view. We don't just sit idly by and allow people to kill themselves using cigarettes or even not wearing a seatbelt while driving or any other number of social regulations we all agree on. We try to educate them to make better decisions or we make things outright illegal or we tax those activities. Now look at how we try to get people to stop smoking. We shame them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:17 PM
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Its not even about body fat. Its about legitimizing an unhealthy lifestyle. But fat acceptance is just one example. Go in front of mixed company and suggest that men and women are different or that women are generally more emotional. I dare you. You'll be ridiculed. The fact is the SJW world view is (or maybe has) becoming mainstream. The fact is that in public discourse you must either present yourself as a progressive or face being viewed as immoral and evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:08 PM
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Lions cannot reason like humans. Their behaviors are not based on morality, equality, fairness, or the things that we, as humans, value. Society, civilization, etc, values those qualities too. When you look at it from that perspective, it's not really inconsistent, it's merely cognizant of basic differences. Those abilities are rooted in biology. Just because we cannot understand a lions' mind doesn't mean it doesn't engage in some primitive form of reasoning and ethics. You should look at how l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:04 PM
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Yea. It was nice living in Europe when I did. It was nice to see everyone look much healthier. The sad thing is I live on the west coast of the US. I can only imagine being in the south where practically everyone is obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:52 PM
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The tumblr and mainstream views are more or less coming from the same ideology. One is just the extreme version. Because mainstream views do certainly believe that being slim does make a women more attractive. That's true for the time being. However, think a bit deeper on that. It's already unacceptable to suggest that thin women are attractive. We already have mainstream movements like HAES. We have the reshaping of the Barbie doll to have a fat stomach and big ass. We're heading in the directi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:48 PM
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I agree biology and culture are both contributors. But the bigger point is biology and culture are inseparable. They both feedback to each other. Its rather odds that we divide these things when it comes to humans yet do not do so for other animals. For example, we wouldn't say that male lions are oppressing female lions via an oppressive social construct when they force them to do all the labor while they sleep. However, we are comfortable saying this about humans when we are unhappy with the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:43 PM
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Not really. Rather, it's a concise way of saying that the PC view on the extent of this "social construct" idea is false. The PC world fights to identify everyone has a victim. They do this by destroying the concept of personal agency. One method in doing that is by going as far as to say people don't even have control over their thoughts and instead are "victims" of their circumstances. It's a pitiful and powerless way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:39 PM
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I could say the same of women. Unfortunately, it seems a good 50% of them are downright fat and another 25% seem to have little concern for their health or physical fitness. As someone who's had a life long interest in both those things it means a large group of women repulse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:34 PM
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Obviously culture is a factor. But then again you cannot even neatly separate culture and biology. Our cultures are products of our biology. And our biology is a product of our culture. It's an endless feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:33 PM
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How about NOW or any of these other organizations? These groups epitomize a hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:29 PM
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To them its all social conditioning. And of course they want to condition you into their wonderful female conditioning and away from that icky male conditioning. The simple reality of the 2016 PC world is that stereotypical male traits are evil and stereotypical female traits are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:17 PM
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Don't move the goal posts. That wasn't the discussion here. You said this: people are raised to think drastically differently depending on what genitalia they were born with and to treat people differently according to what genitalia they have My point is that hormones and evolution play a huge role in shaping our behaviors, thoughts, actions, motivations, etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:35 PM
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The alpha lions obtain their harems by force. They will kill a weaker alpha and take his pride. The same works with humans but instead of violent force we demonstrate higher social value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:31 PM
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Well there's two things here so let's parse them out. House work is low value - objectively speaking. If you look up the pay for different fields you'll see the fields of work that can generally be categorized as "house work" (e.g. food preparation, janitorial services, etc.) are the lowest paying jobs in the economy. This data is readily available online. You can see these jobs do not require any level of skill or education. Accordingly, only the lower class performs these tasks. The privilege …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:30 PM
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Some women are clueless. Some are chess-masters. It has a lot to do with how good looking you are. The manipulation generally begins once you know the man is enticed by your feminine qualities. The female uses the male's sexual arousal as a weapon against him in order to extract resources and behavior modifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:22 PM
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Males and females are a different gender. Unlike the PC crowd which believes that gender is a made up cultural concept designed by the man to dis-empower women (talk about conspiracies) TRP understands that immense role that evolution and hormones play in shaping our behaviors, thoughts, and desires. In many ways women are the natural opposite of men. We are two sides of the same coin - heads and tails - day and night. These things are opposites. Historically these opposites have joined together…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:19 PM
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It's not a place for neutral discussion. Why would you assume its meant to be neutral? Did anyone say it was a place for discussion at all? One of the fundemental underpinnings of the philosophy (you just stated it directly further up the quote chain) is the idea that women are inherently manipulative, and so you have to take the fight back to them. People in general are generally manipulative. Either you learn how people manipulate or you pull the wool over your eyes and let yourself be manipul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:14 PM
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So the basic starting point would be learning the difference between evo psych and standard social science in terms of their view of human psychology. The latter group believes our psychology is entirely dependent on culture. This falls in line with the PC way of thinking (i.e. everything is a social construct; we are all victims of our circumstances). On the other hand, evo psych studies what they call cultural universal traits (i.e. element, pattern, trait, or institution that is common to all…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:07 PM
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The point is those things come naturally to women. As I said RP is a way to catch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 08:56 PM
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That's the point. All of the demand already existed. If you understand Keynesian economics and why trickle down doesn't work you can understand why GDP didn't grow when women joined the workforce. I'd love to be a stay at home dad. It's much more fulfilling to train a child than to do meaningless work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 04:13 AM
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Math is a good example. One student may be at a 1st grade level but that doesn't mean we don't have books on calculus. As far as your characterization that's a strawman and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 04:10 AM
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You think men use their words to manipulate women more than women with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 04:08 AM
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I put more weight in human experience than agenda-driven "studies".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 03:07 AM
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I'm not interested in why. All I'm telling you is we added 50 million jobs without increasing demand. What is the net effect of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 03:06 AM
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You have to separate between the knowledge base and the people trying to learn the knowledge. Instead of criticizing the people try to critique the arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 03:05 AM
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Hopefully we can reduce the global population. I was already in favor of cutting most all funding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 02:24 AM
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Go reread what I said. I certainly said that. I'm saying its likely to be based on natural selection. Are you familiar with the scientific field of evolutionary psychology?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 02:22 AM
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Certainly the GDP growth occurred. What I'm saying is we saw a linear growth and no spike when the females were added to the economy. Make no mistake I'm not suggesting women shouldn't work. I'm merely giving you some facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 02:20 AM
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As I said, it's based chiefly on personal experience. Or is that somehow irrelevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:06 AM
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We added something like 50 million people to the workforce but there was no corresponding growth in GDP. Productivity doesn't necessarily create more demand. Nonworking females purchasing needs used to got met by someone else. Typically, a father or love interest. So it's not like the added workers added much new demand by virtue of them having a job. There was probably some small increase but in the end the pie didn't grow nearly as much in respective to the new job. Thus, we see smaller slices…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 12:56 AM
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On what basis do you conclude that I "lack basic knowledge of the facts being discussed"? I have no desperation. Mostly amusement. But this yet another example of you focusing on me rather my words.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:37 PM
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I don't purport to speak for RP, merely myself. In my actual experience I tend to see that, on average, women are much better at manipulating other people than men. It make sense from a biological perspective given their relative lack of size or strength when you consider those things were of the utmost importance from a survival perspective for the vast majority of our existence as a species. Its natural they would develop alternative means to ensure their survival. Its amusing that you resort …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:32 PM
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Be honest - women are far more adept at this than men. We're playing from behind in this regard. RP is just trying to catch us up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:16 PM
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It's only a problem because their finance sectors have already bet on neverending GDP growth. More importantly I think its pretty obvious global populations are skyrocketing. The exceptions don't disprove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:16 PM
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Actually, if you really put the alternative views to any level of scrutiny you'll see TRP has a far more complex world view. TRP recognizes that women instinctively engage in a form of psychological warfare (most obviously in the form of intra-gender warfare). In other words, most of what women say to each other, or men, has multiple layers of understanding and purpose. The BPs take these interactions at face value, as do most men historically. RP goes much deeper in analysing the female psychol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:07 PM
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We're headed that way. If you're high value enough you can pretty much have a harem of women that will do things for you and buy you shit in exchange for a nice fucking. Women are all about working and being self-reliant. I say good for you girls! Work all day. I'll chill at home with the kiddies. The ultimate irony of feminism is that it effectively works to strip away all the privileges females have historically enjoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:02 PM
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I'm not mad. I don't get mad at internet strangers. I'm disappointed. Disappointed that you, and seemingly the majority of people who share your view, are entirely unwilling to even engage in a rational debate. You judge the person rather than addressing the arguments. The fact that you continue to respond in a condescending manner rather than use 5 seconds to write out "here are the remaining goals we need to achieve - X, Y, Z" shows me that you are being less than genuine. It all stems from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:54 PM
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You're totally right. A male lion and a female lion act EXACTLY THE SAME. Their behaviors and physical features are indistinguishable. You've shown me the light!. Alternative snarky response: Those damn male lions are oppressing the female lions. Down with the lion patriarchy! How dare they force the females to hunt and provide while they sit at home and sleep 20 hours a day. Damn privileged lion assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:38 PM
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This is a frequent thing I see on here. You call someone out on their bullshit and they REFUSE to back it up with any facts or logic. Can't you see the obvious difference between our posts? I provide you with facts and logic. You respond with emotions and attack me as a person. You should be ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:37 PM
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I'd love to hear which major feminist goals you believe the west has yet to achieve. Something tells me you won't/can't answer. As of course the response won't fit your agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:56 PM
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The belief that women have a sense of entitlement to maternity leave and believing that the theoretical concept of parental leave is not necessarily a gendered issue are not mutual exclusive. I have to agree with the opinion that you argue against. Namely, that women who believe in paid maternity leave as a governmentally granted right have an unjustifiable sense of entitlement. If you want paid maternity leave, privately negotiate that with your employer. Or better yet, start your own business …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:53 PM
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So none of that is innate? It's all social conditioning? If left to our own devices our genetics and hormones would have no effect on our interests, conduct, or attitudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:17 PM
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This was never about gender in my eyes. That point is entirely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:15 PM
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Are you serious? The global population has exploded beyond all reasonable measure. I get it from population data.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:14 PM
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I see no reason employers or the government need to subsidize your personal choices. If anything - give everyone more leave. Let them choose what to use it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:16 PM
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This is the unintended consequence of women entering the work force. We're now splitting the same pie (GDP) in double the slices. Families have to work twice as hard for the same purchasing power.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 06:15 PM
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The last thing we need is more kids. We're overpopulated as it is. I suggest tax breaks for not having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 06:03 PM
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Guess we're done here. Enjoy being disingenuous somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 06:00 PM
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You're wrong. Ask yourself why RP came to exist in the first place. Hint: things dramatically changed. It's a new, never been tried strategy, for a new market place. That's a cop out regarding feminism and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 05:50 PM
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Don't you see you're making the same mistake as people who claim that a feminist needs to be pro men. Not ever person needs to talk about every issue. Calling out issue A doesn't mean I exclude issue B.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:13 AM
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No that was on purpose because I was circling back to the main purpose of the post. And good job reading into what I write your own negative view of me, an absolute stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 03:30 AM
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ROFL I meticulously made my comment gender-neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:39 AM
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You can't really rank them. More accurately, there are some traits that must meet a minimum standard - face, teeth, skin, weight, fashion. If she's a butterface, has fucked up teeth, terrible skin, is overly fat, or is dressed like a homeless person then I'm not going to be interested. If she meets minimum standards everything else comes into play and those things are going to depend on dude. Myself - I'm an ass man. Then you get into what role does she play in my life. A quick fling? A more mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:55 AM
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TRP is just traditionalism in new clothes and we are hardly out of the traditional woods. I would entirely disagree and the fact that you espouse that view tells me you have not spent any real amount of time actually familiarizing yourself with RP. The truth is that the blue pill is the traditional mindstate. Traditionally, monogamy, marriage, and chastity were the mainstream values. Under these parameters men were encouraged to be good beta providers for their stay at home wives. All of the blu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:11 AM
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I don't think you can find another resources outside of the "manosphere" that will give such unadulterated advice. Certainly you are aware that it goes far deeper than that strawman you've created in your comment. Perhaps that part of your comment was meant in jest? In fact, it even goes deeper than merely maintaining a satisfying relationship. Would you at least admit that "traditional" methods of dealing with relationship problems (e.g. therapy, main-stream advice) is more or less setup in a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:57 AM
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And yet even if the facts prove that the working spouse's income had nothing to do with the other spouse's involvement (e.g. facts show working spouse was making the same prior to marriage or even meeting nonworking spouse) it doesn't change anything. All of this logic is just utter bullshit ex post facto justifications for turning the working spouse into an indentured servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:44 AM
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Just look at the top comment of this thread. To them its an open and shut case. Its literally the most backward shit in the world. One spouse is working all day to provide and the other spouse gets the privilege to stay home and become someone else's dependent. Yet, even in a no-fault divorce initiated by the latter party, its the spouse who's been toiling away to provide for the whole family who must now continue to carry that burden. Utter nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:36 AM
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Yea that's the legal justification but it falls like a house of cards if put it up to any real scrutiny. It still applies even in situations where the working spouse never asked the nonworking spouse to quit working. It still applies even if the nonworking spouse never actually had an education or career to begin with. The calculation of alimony is based on the working spouse's income and not the "lost" income (i.e. opportunity cost) of the nonworking spouse. It doesn't place a duty to mitigate …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:29 AM
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You can't honestly believe that's all its good for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:26 AM
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Or it will motivate real change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:25 AM
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At least there is an underlying educational purpose. The other side is just pure antagonistic nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:17 AM
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GPA doesn't equate to smarts. The entire premise of the study is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:24 PM
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Do you do that with students?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 10:01 PM
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My go to prioritization system groups first by deadline and second by time length. Soonest due and shortest to get done getting first priority. That being said, I could never actually do the job of a secretary week after week. Its maddening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 09:24 PM
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So you don't think the relative emotional fragility of women, as compared to men, has anything to do with it? In other words, it's all a social construct, no biology involved? In my experience, women don't take well to harsh criticism. In my line of work, extremely harsh criticism to the point of teetering on emotional abuse is sadly the norm. In my experience, female employees tend to break down under these position much more often than their male counterparts. I hypothesize this is because (1)…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 09:20 PM
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I'll take a line from Patrice O'Neal. He calls all women bitches. And of course he faces backlash. But his response is quite simple, "what are they going to do about it?". They can't physically hurt you. The only real thing they can do is leave. So leave bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 09:18 PM
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Do you only frequent /r/feminism and SRS? Making fun of fat women and SJW tumblr types anywhere else on reddit will result in instant upvotes... so will making fun of neckbeards. Do you only frequent Reddit? Making fun of fat women and SJW tumblr types anywhere in the real world will result in instant scorn, calls of misogyny and bigotry, and ostracization... but making fun of neckbeards will be good for some laughs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 09:15 PM
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His argument is a little different and could be summed up as "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." But even then, his point ignores the reality that when women complain they get pity, when men complain they get told to suck it up. Its natural and its also why things like MRA are dead on arrival. You're not going to beat women at their own pity game. By conforming to their paradigm you've already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 09:10 PM
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Sorry buddy, this isn't the 1950s anymore. This might have applied to your great-grandmother. Not anymore. This is some lazy, tired bullshit. To the extent this happens to any degree in 2016, its actually women who shame other women. But as most people know, its the woman's favorite pass time to shit talk one another. Sorry not sorry? Its time to accept that in 2016 women are free to do whatever they want, whenever they want and be free from any sort of criticism from men. That's not to say they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:59 PM
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The only job I ever failed at was as a secretary and this is coming from a lawyer. Give me a complex legal brief that takes 45 hours to draft followed by oral argument in front of a judge - no problemo. Give me 15 menial tasks that all need to get done by lunch - I'm lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:53 PM
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Obviously he could put some reasonable rationalizations in there. The point is the perception will be as I described. And lets think a bit about what makes them "damaged goods". They are damaged, in part, exactly because of the whole third wheel idea. You're just playing a game of semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:51 PM
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Now imagine if that article was reversed and it was a guy saying he refuses to date single mothers. He would be shamed off the damn internet in a heartbeat. "Look at the jealous manchild who cannot stomach the thought of not coming first at all time. What a loser." You need to start conducting yourself with at least a shred of honesty here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:28 PM
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Makes sense. In my experience, women are far better multi-taskers. I can speak firsthand in saying I fucking suck at that type of multitasking. If I have multiple things I need to get done I prioritize and handle one at a time. With women that I've seen (at work or at home) they are much better at doing them all at once. /queue the sexist comments. Oh no! I've committed the cardinal sin of suggesting men and women aren't exactly the same!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:27 PM
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Except it is backlash. Go read the articles he linked. They literally advise people to stop complimenting fathers for being good fathers because it perpetuates the notion that they shouldn't just do that by default. You can't make this level of stupidity up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:24 PM
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The west celebrates female sexuality in all aspects. Women strip naked and parade in the streets with words like "slut" and "whore" drawn all over their bodies and the media claps and celebrates the progressive display. Imagine if a bunch of naked dudes did that? Its also about responsibility. If a girl and guy get drunk and fuck, he's a rapist. If a guy compliments a girl in public, he's engaging in sexual harassment. We're now taking it society wide. If you're a man about to go to college you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:12 AM
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Because men obviously couldn't just be upset that they are being painted as "defective/evil/creepy" for engaging in normal, male behavior. Do you not see how the "rape culture" narrative is a blatant attempt at controlling male sexuality? Speaking more broadly, we are moving toward a system of total and unquestionable freedom of female sexuality with the simultaneous restraint and demonization of male sexuality. Just think about how western society treats an overt demonstration of female sexuali…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:56 AM
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That's what parents and other family members are for. In the context of a romantic relationship, as a man, happiness flows downstream beginning with you. Its also rather freeing. Instead of being weak and needing emotional support of others you should strive to grow strong and not only resolve your own problems internally but also be the rock for other people. The downside for me wasn't necessarily lack of emotional support (something I don't really need much) but actually the fact that my SO fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 12:05 AM
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Full disclosure I ended a 1 year relationship a few months back. But it was on good terms and we're still friends so I'll give you my take based on my time with her. Women are, for example, very often said to be infantile or irrational or immature (there is no shortage of posts or articles comparing them in certain respects to children, teenagers, or dogs). It's suggested that they have a lesser capacity to reason, or are ruled by emotion, or frequently and whimsically change their minds and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:05 PM
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I don't. Women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:43 PM
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Now we're just talking in circles. Why don't you go back and read the explanation for why it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:19 PM
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I can only speak for myself in saying no. The more promiscuous the lower value in my eyes. There's probably a sweet spot. A goldilocks zone if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:10 PM
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The analogy is there to explain that underlying idea. Not to prove it. What don't you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:09 PM
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You just regurgitated the same logic I showed to be faulty. I wont bother to repeat myself. Beyond that you have to accept the reason why the key and lock analogy works. A guy who can get in the pants of every girl is a player (master key). A girl who spreads her legs for every guy is a slut (shitty lock). The above is true based on the sheer fact that men generally won't turn down sex. Rather, its women who turn down sex. Its not sexist or a double standard. Its a reality of the way human matin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 11:37 AM
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I think I explained to you why your example sucks and the lock example makes more sense. Care to refute with some logic or are you going to resort to mudslinging?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 10:57 AM
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That fails in many respects. a) a pencil sharpener that has sharpened a lot of pencils isn't even necessarily good. If anything, it probably has dulled overtime and become worse. So even in and of itself its a bad analogy. b) this analogy doesn't capture the nature of our mating patterns in the same way the key/lock example does. Namely, the fact that the man is trying to put his key inside the woman's lock. Or are you going to deny the fact that virtually all of the time the man is the one who …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:55 AM
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Studies indicate that there is an inverse relationship between a female's N count and her ability to pair bond. Any personally I'm not as attracted to a girl once I know she has slept around. Its almost hardwired into my thought process. My belief is that this hardwiring is due to the fact that for the majority of human history sleeping with a promiscuous woman meant that I would not know if I was truly the father. You can obviously see that the inverse would not be true i.e. a woman who sleeps …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:50 AM
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It's a proxy for experience and high value. It's preselection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:41 AM
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No there are definitely skills that pertain to LTRs. If anything its most important in an LTR situation. Frame holding. Keeping high value. If you want more Machiavellian ideas, dread game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:37 AM
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RP is a toolbox. Depending on your goals different tools are useful to you. Holding frame is a necessity with an LTR. Some men do it instinctively. Others need to be taught. I've also seen studies shown that high N count is not related to commitment with men. Ultimately, its like I said, women go for experienced men. It's not under our control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:04 AM
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This is a common mistake non-rps make. RP is advice for men. Obviously it's not going to give advice for women. It's not meant for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:01 AM
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There is statistical evidence that there is an inverse correlation between N count and commitment with females.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:35 AM
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The simple answer is men and women are different. Different standards for different things. In fact, men and women are basically opposites when talking the gender spectrum. It would be odd to hold two opposites to the same standard. Most of all you have to realize who sets the standards. Men set it for women and women for men. Women don't seem to care (and actually seem to value) men with high N count. Effectively you're judging men for having different standards and not adopting the female stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:34 AM
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Because men are the ones who hunt and women are the ones who select. The guy is trying to put his key in every lock and the girl is only allowing the right keys to open it. Plus you have the obvious physical similarities between the organs and the respective objects. It's really not that hard to figure out. It's as if the opponents are engaging in wilful ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:33 AM
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Fundamentalism is what it is the difference being of course now much power a society allows that group to wield. There's a difference between picketing and murdering. Having lived in that region yourself you should appreciate how incompatible their ideals are with the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:30 PM
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Like Catholicism? That whole Crusades and Spanish Inquisition thing, as well as looking the other way during the Holocaust. That's exactly my point. Judging by the Westboro Baptist Church, that would include Christianity, if the fundamentalist Muslims you see represent all of Islam to you. There's a huge difference between a fringe group like Westboro and governmentally enforced religion. The countries in the middle east that have institutionalized this radicalism lead to the proliferation of ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 02:11 AM
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Any extreme religion is going to lead to what we're seeing with the Muslims. That's why we need to eradicate extremism in any form. That being said, I think there is a huge difference between Islam and Christianity. Jesus was a pacifist. Muhammed was a warlord. There is not getting around this fundamental fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 08:35 PM
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What is your problem with Muslims? You do understand that they commit less crime per capita than blacks? Why not hate the blacks instead? It's not just about crime (although that's a big part of it) its about the fact that these groups seem to immigrate all over the world and seem to have no interest in assimilating with the host culture. A fragmented society is not conducive to a productive society. Furthermore, isn't it funny that you will be called a racist for pointing out that statistical f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 08:34 PM
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I was wondering how much the way young guys are socialized, in regard to sexuality, has a role in spreading that myth. We girls talk about guys, sex etc. among ourselves, but nowhere the whole "you had sex with one guy, I had sex with three, and they were all hotter than yours" appears to be that important. It is not that girls are all nice and friendly and non-jealous, at all, but this idea of proving one's status by riding as many cocks as possible doesn't work that way. You don't seem to unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 01:56 AM
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My source is based on personal observation. I come from a rather big family and I have a large group of friends and acquaintances. What I see is that, generally speaking, women are the boss of their relationship. Things happen on their terms. When and how they want. Their SO is, to some degree, a simple yes man. Their social group around them encourages this behavior even to the extent of trivializing and comedicizing the man's plight. Here's a hypothetical example involving fictitious couple Ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 01:15 AM
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I was thinking more on this topic and here's what I concluded based on personal experience. TRP gets the conclusion (women want a leader) right but the reason (women are attracted to dominance) either wrong, or only partially right. What I mean by that is, that I believe a huge factor in the desire for leadership in romantic relationships stems from the fact that women have much higher degrees of anxiety as compared to men. Generally speaking, your average working woman appears to be stressed ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 01:10 AM
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Sounds good in theory and may actually occur to some extent. But in reality one person's preference will predominate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 12:39 AM
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That's tangential to the point I was making. That being said, whether or not you should listen to your boss depends on a variety of factors that are too complex and situation dependent for me to describe in the abstract. There's no right answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 10:39 PM
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The reality of the situation is that if you observe any couple you will see that there is one who is more of the "leader" of the group and will get final say when there is a disagreement. Hierarchy, whether de jure or de facto, is unavoidable in human interactions. This is true even with small children. If you have the opportunity to observe a group of children playing you will see a social hierarchy exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 10:26 PM
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It boils down to a few dichotomies, which you essentially elluded to in your post. Individualism v. Collectivism The collectivist believes he can enrich his life through societal cooperation. The individualist believes he can enrich his life through his own autonomy. Pragmatism v. Idealism The idealist dreams of a more perfect world and supports things that bring us closer to that ideal. The pragmatist understands the world he lives in and seeks to maximize his gains within the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 10:11 PM
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What if "mutually fulfilling" means different things to different people. What if for some people a fulfilling relationship involves seeing the other person once or twice a week, doing something fun, and then having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 03:46 AM
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Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:07 PM
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I'm guessing all of them are either directly paid or indirectly are there for his money. In either case, that makes him a beta bucks according to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:06 PM
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You need professional counseling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:53 AM
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For the benefit of future generations we have historically subvert our basic instincts (lust seeking as you call it). In the age of "me", it seems we are reverting to a more primitive time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:45 AM
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You reap what you sow. By engaging in your behavior you are encouraging more of the same behavior from women that you claim to detest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:42 AM
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And that sums up everything wrong with the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:30 AM
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When I'm old and I want to be able to see my kids and grandkids grow old. I want to be able to share these experiences with the person who I created these people with. I'll gladly trade meaningless sexual experiences for that. You may be 29 but to me you have the emotional maturity of a teenager. Sorry if that comes off as overly insulting but its the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:21 AM
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Of course we suffer. Having a family with kids and a wife that loves you is part of what makes life worth living. Growing old and dying alone without family sounds absolutely horrific. I don't want to see the world crumble. If it does I will be dead far before anything good comes out of the ashes. Call me selfish. You sound like a teenager filled with angst. Once you grow older your views will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:07 AM
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I do feel bad for them. They are 50% of society. If they are all stupidly making these horrible choices we will all suffer. They are being taught from a young age both by the school system and by our mass media that promiscuity is beneficial to them. In the process our society is crumbling. This is not a laughing matter in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:52 AM
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Because men and women are different. A cursory understanding of biology, evolution, and the effect of hormones on personality will tell you everything you need to know. Like I told you, you are looking at it from the male perspective. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:42 AM
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Now you're just flat out trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:33 AM
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As the saying goes, beta bucks / alpha fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:22 AM
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Not necessarily. By my estimation, Dan Bilzerian is a beta in that gives his commitment (in the form of money and other resources) to girls in order for them to be around him and sleep with him. That being said, he appears to be drowning in pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:04 AM
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Why are you bringing that up though? Because this is a thread about politics. Bringing it up shows that the PC narrative is internally inconsistent. Rape only matters when its perpetrated by a white man. Similarly, a black life only matters if a white man killed it. The PC narrative is pretty simple, on one side (the bad side) you have white men, on the other side you have everyone else (including white women who are somehow considered a minority by these people). Do you not see this? We should …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:46 AM
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A relationship consists of an exchange of assets. These assets can be monetary or social in nature. I think you understand monetary assets so I won't expound there. Social assets can be attention, affection, commitment, sex, etc. Generally, a woman can obtain sex from a man any time she wants. Thus for men, their sex asset is relatively worthless. It works the opposite for women for the same reasons. This means that a man ends up exchanging love, attention, affection, and commitment for sex. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:32 AM
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I see a lot of promiscuous 20-something women these days. And I see a society that glamorizes and encourages this behavior. But you know what I don't see? Women who do this who are happy in their 20s or are happy moving into their 30s. We are trying to convince women to act and think like men. Its clearly not working. By any statistical measure womens' happiness are plummeting in spite of the fact that they are obtaining so much "social progress". You may say "women have it all" but you are look…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:28 AM
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When I said look up the stats I'm referring to the rape rates comparatively between the "refugees" and their domestic counterparts. Also take a look at the rape statistics in Sweden over the past decade or two. You might be shocked with what you learn. Its not about trivializing rape. To me its two fold. First, its the notion that all of these non-rape activities are being lumped into the idea of rape. Its the notion of this whole yes means yes campaign being total crap. Its the notion that if b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:45 AM
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I find it funny that you continue to attack this amorphous group that you chose to lump me into. I'm not a "right winger". I don't post rape stories of any variety. I'm not even a "terper". I'm just one man who forms opinions based on experience and fact. If you want to continue to attribute things to me that I have not personally said I suppose we are done here. My assessment of the situation is that you are approaching this entire discussion on an emotional level. You are trying to parse my em…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:30 AM
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Those are good points. I'm mainly responding to the notion that beta = no/low sex. That's not necessarily true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:55 AM
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And yet you can just as easily rationalize an great author as being able to create a vast fictional world (i.e. a system) and populate it with characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:51 AM
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I've been saying my top two are Sanders and Trump (in that order) and people think I'm contradicting myself. Glad to finally see someone else pick them and for the same reasons to boot. Ultimately, my motto is anyone but Clinton. She is so entirely bought out by the big banks and other corporate interests. She also has a multi-decade history of being in government without actually having accomplished anything other than a multitude of scandals. I am terrified to see what she would do if elected.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:44 AM
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It just goes to show how uninformed the average voter is. They see an old white man and assume he does not stand for their cause. Pure ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:29 AM
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Considering the number of laws we have in place and the fact that those laws authorize the president to enact executive orders to achieve the goals of those laws I wouldn't be so sure. We haven't actually seen a president test the limits of the office. Should a president actually attempt such he could easily become indistinguishable from a dictator.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:28 AM
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There's a huge difference between tumblr "rape culture" and actual violent rape. The fact that you think these two things should be lumped together just shows the level of insanity your ilk has reached. Moreover, please stop with the petty insults and attack the arguments, not the speaker. You're privileged to live in a society that coddles you. I would laugh to see you live in the middle east as a woman. You'd be yearning to return to this "rape culture patriarchy" we have here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:23 AM
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I would just add that you are making the common mistake that RP always makes by mislabeling omega as beta. In other words, a guy who cannot obtain sex is an omega not a beta. A beta is a person who offers his commitment in the hopes of obtaining sex. An alpha simply gets the sex for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:15 AM
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This is true if you're defining "get" as "have sex with". However, if you define it as "obtain commitment from" it all fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:11 AM
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The reason is because when its the woman who is with a man they are "lucky" to have they aren't in a real relationship. Rather, they are fuck buddies and she is probably one of the many in his soft-harem. Accordingly, you're not likely to hear much conversation about these "relationships". Women fuck up and date down. Men fuck down and date up. If you understand the transactional nature of relationships you'll understand why that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:06 AM
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Act like they did in the 1950s when courting a girl and see how far that takes you. Moreover, I think you're confusing /r/TRP and /r/Seduction. The latter focuses on "game" and tricks of the trade so to speak. The former is more about self-actualization. You may not subscribe to an RP way of thinking but that doesn't mean their analysis of social interactions is any less true. Frame is real. Shit testing is real. SMV is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:04 AM
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Yes. The way in which humans engage in sexual relationships has dramatically changed over the last 50 years. See my longer comment in this chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:52 AM
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You're missing the part where RP is purely a reactionary movement that has come as a result of the modern sexual liberation. The basic reality is that humans are engaging romantically in a dramatically different fashion than in even the recent past. As a result, much of the traditional wisdom (act like a BP) is no longer viable. Thus a new set of advice (RP) has been devised. Certainly that new advice will borrow concepts from the past but do not lose sight of why the movement came about in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:51 AM
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Exactly. Which is why I refer to it as a religion. Religion starts with a conclusion and, to the small extent it cares of facts, cherry picks those that fit the narrative.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/16 12:09 AM
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Interesting theory but I have to disagree with most of what you wrote. In reality, all of these things are explained due to PC culture becoming mainstream. As an aside, PC culture is just code word for feminism. PC culture is growing into a religion. The religion of sameism. The foundational tenant of the religion, and that which all other beliefs emanate from, is that all people, regardless of race, sex, culture, or social status we are all exactly the same. Thus, any differences that we can ob…
/r/TheRedPill14/01/16 08:17 AM
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Lucky for me (and the lady) it's all fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:03 PM
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RPers just seems so hard, uncomfortable, cynical, and vindictive in their interactions with women The discussions had on TRP and elsewhere on Reddit are not "interactions with women".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:24 AM
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They don't even realize they are lying. The truth is men have much fewer and simpler desires. The feed me, fuck me, stfu line you hear often repeated by comedians doesn't just come out of nowhere. Meanwhile women have a constant need for novel experiences and attention. They need constant stimulation when you're around them or they start to nag.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:16 AM
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Obviously you should judge a whole group based on the actions of select individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:11 AM
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Be honest: say you are about to make a decision, could be big, could be small, and you disagree. Who ends up making the decision? In all of the coupes that I know there is always a single "dominant" person in the relationship who has final say on things. Could be which car they will buy. Could be what to do after dinner. Could be any stupid thing. And 9/10 in the western society that person is actually the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:10 AM
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You can't just throw something out that exists because you don't like its implications. You might as well have said "we should pretend to live in a world without assholes because shit stinks." Sorry it just don't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:06 AM
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They may hate salesmen but they can still be wooed by a salesman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:00 AM
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A one-time sale transaction doesn't explain most romantic relationships unless we're talking a one night stand. The far better analogy is employer-employee i.e. long-term mutual reciprocal exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:58 AM
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Feminism, from its inception, has advocated for a power transfer from men to women. You can couch it in whatever fancy terms you like but you'd be putting lipstick on a pig. The end goal appears to be a social system where a man exercising judgment is considered wrongful whereas a woman's judgment is considered unquestionable. The same could be applied to desires. Men with desires = get away rapist/creep. Woman with desires = look at the strong confident woman! I'm sure you can come up with nume…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:56 AM
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I sometimes think about whether feminists preoccupation with rape a and stalking is because subconsciously they are ashamed of themselves for fetishizing the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:47 AM
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It's much more subtle than that. It's the way you pick her up without even telling her where you're going. It's the way you guide her body as you exit the elevator door. And it's the way you firmly grip the back of her neck as you bring her to ecstasy and watch her entire body spasm. The pleasure of "dominating" a woman who finds you to be high value is, in my experience, unparalleled on this earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:45 AM
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Comments like these just don't further the discussion. I'd like to see some sort of logical or factual refutation rather than a conclusory dismissal of the assertion. Moreover, it's not exactly a "breakthrough" to suggest that human actions are themselves "environmental pressures". Pressures that alter our evolutionary process. Obviously we observe that human actions have a profound effect on the environment and other species. To suggest we, ourselves, are in some way immune to these pressures i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:29 AM
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All I can tell you is to think for yourself and apply logic. Just because somebody in a position of authority told you something doesn't mean its true, or that it's the only truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 03:52 AM
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Right. So suppose you lived in a society where they killed anyone with a big nose. Certainly that would reduce the likelihood of people inheriting the "big nose" trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 03:51 AM
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Your response doesn't really address what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 02:08 AM
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Agree to disagree. I'd argue you have no factual basis for that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 02:07 AM
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If you really want to enforce this rule have all posts include a 2-3 sentence explanation why their post adheres to Rule 0. Call it a mission statement.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/15 01:34 AM
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Also consider the way in which people treat each other is most certainly an "environmental pressure" for all intents and purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 11:20 PM
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Are you suggesting genetic and psychological profiles are in no way related?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 10:16 PM
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Why not? Why are psychological profiles not prone to natural selection?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 09:11 PM
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That quite an informative post you've made. Thank you for the well thought out rebuttal. PS: see my edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 08:34 PM
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If you're naturally inferior (i.e. submissive) then through the process of millions of years of life your psychology will adapt to your position in the hierarchy. Edit: to put it in less generalized terms: since females have, for the most of human history, relied on men for survival (both in terms of physical protection and resource provision) we can posit that certain male and female psychological patterns have been naturally selected over time because they are more suitable for survival under …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 05:59 PM
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That natural inferiority may have an affect on their psychology and/or intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 07:49 AM
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People operate in amorphous hierarchies and engage in "modes of behavior" (i.e. what TRP refer to as frames). Beneath many social interactions a game is being played.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 07:45 AM
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Because you nut. Is it really that hard to figure out?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:06 AM
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It's a biological fact of life that women are more integral to their children's birth. Paid leave doesn't change anything. Tell me how it changes anything. If you don't like it you could always write some fantasy stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 12:16 AM
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At this point I think you're trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:22 PM
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This is becoming laborious. The facts are pretty simple. Plenty of women succeed in having families and later pursuing a political career. Moreover, there are virtually no women of child-bearing age who are in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:05 PM
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That has nothing to do with being able to run for office. Nor did I ever disagree regarding whether there should be paid parental leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 10:58 PM
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Explain how taking a couple weeks/months off can effect your entire career trajectory. And explain how anything would change by allowing paid leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:55 PM
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This comment is garbage once you realize people in politics are in their 40s+. Meaning of they are women their days of being pregnant are long gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 05:46 PM
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I guess I'm weird. I'm honestly content in life if I don't have to worry about living paycheck to paycheck. Can afford the basics and maybe a trip once or twice a year and of course you spread those legs or open that mouth every night. My dad and his brothers are the exact same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:16 PM
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I'd say maybe 1-5% of men I know are like that. On the other hand, 90-95% of women I know are like that. made plans that caused you to miss the kickoff for the big game This cuts both ways. This can just as easily be characterized as wife is trying to control husband's life and loses her shit if he doesn't want to attend some pointless social function that he couldn't care less about. The difference is the guy isn't going to demand you watch the game with him i.e. him watching the game falls in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:17 PM
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Care to provide some examples for the class?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:55 PM
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Who would you say has more particularized day-to-day needs, men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:53 PM
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Like I said humans interact in hierarchy. From birth it works like this. The problem with 50/50 split is that it sounds great until you realize the man's 50 really boils down to: "feed me, fuck me, shut the fuck up" whereas the woman has a never ending list of piddling bullshit that if not fulfilled will wreck her emotional state.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:31 PM
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Humor me and study these ostensibly egalitarian couples a bit more closely. Watch for body language and facial expressions. Pay extra attention when there is some disagreement. Then report back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:22 PM
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At the end of the day there is always going to be a "leader" in the relationship. Humans simply do not interact without hierarchy (de facto or de jure). This applies to all social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:12 PM
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I don't really agree with the way things were phrased in the OP. The way I see it is that a woman's stress levels are like a roller coaster. At any moment they can go from 0-100 and their entire mood will take a 180. So a large part of attraction for a woman is that she has a man she can rely on to help her navigate the rollercoaster that is her emotions. What this means, pragmatically speaking, is she wants a guy who's going to make decisions (small and big) so as to alleviate her stress levels…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:05 PM
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Maybe I'm different or the guys I chose to associate with are different. Most guys that I know who are hyper-emotional tend to display a lot of aggression and anger. But I tend to cut those people off rather quickly. When I take a Myers-Briggs test I'm right around 90% Thinking on the Thinking/Feeling breakdown. Could be that since I personally conform to the male archetype I find it to be true. All things considered I just get the sense that women relish emotional conflict. It seems to provide …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:36 PM
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Is this an all woman class? Or all the men too afraid to even say a word lest they be ostracised?
/r/TheRedPill18/12/15 05:53 AM
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I'm well aware. A righteous man should put tefillin every morning. Right after he thanks hashem for his twig and berries.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:34 AM
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Yea. They are usually pansies who grew up without a father figure. Usually raised by a single mother. And yet all women are like that. I truly pity them in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:26 AM
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I know you're probably joking but this is fucking so true it hurts. Women are a tornado of emotions and insecurities. Beings who endlessly obsess over the minutiae of life. It seems absolutely exhausting. I pray to the good lord every morning thanking him for making me a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 11:08 PM
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Now I'm geninuely curious. Did you experience any of this discrimination first or second hand or were you only "educated" as to its existence on one of our wonderful indoctrination centers college campuses?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 11:00 PM
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Don't forget the blatant racism that is favoring certain groups for jobs and college.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 11:00 PM
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ba dum tss
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:30 PM
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Its rather comical to read your assumptions. And then you link me some esoteric study while simultaneously chiding me for my lack of personal experience. For the record I'm not big on one night stands. And I actually prefer sex in a committed relationship. People these days (men and women) are whores. It's rather shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:25 PM
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Can you explain what you mean by this? Are you saying their pussies don't get wet when they're aroused?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:17 PM
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No just bored of debating biological reality with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:14 PM
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Stop generalizing and stereotyping you misogynist!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:11 PM
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You can't fake body fluids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:04 PM
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Care to dispute me with facts rather than your baseless conclusions and ad hominem attacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:46 PM
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You've been spending too much time on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:01 PM
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I think you're taking this way too seriously. I was satirizing her comment which was meant comedically itself. If I'm going to be with a female long-term obviously I will want something more than just a raw physical attraction. That being said, let's not put lipstick on the pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:52 PM
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Every person's physical appearance declines as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:43 PM
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Depends on the shape of the equipment but yea I generally agree. That's what God made fingers for afterall. Regarding lesbians - there is really no straight sex going on. Sex (not oral sex or anal sex but just sex) involves a penis and vagina. That being said the concept of virginity is a different discussion and far more subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:01 PM
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No. Oral is oral. It's not straight sex. You don't get to redefine words to fit your agenda. Are you saying the majority of girls don't get off from g-spot stimulation? My fingers tell me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:55 PM
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That's my whole point. Every guy on earth can cum from straight sex. This is not the case with women (as you've pointed out) for reasons unknown. Thus things are a "bit lopsided".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:41 PM
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That seems to be the case. Whatever guy I'm in a relationship with automatically becomes the most attractive man in the world to me, and if I didn't see him that way then I wouldn't be with him. I can assure you men are not like this. They needed the cow or goat they got in exchange to keep their other kids alive. So it's like choosing a lesser evil. I don't think a father has ever existed that would feel comfortable with his 12 year old daughter being raped by a 60 year old man. As a person who…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:41 PM
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That makes me sad :/ why even bother with monogamy if your man is going to get sick of you no matter what? Just accept the fact that, physically speaking, you are not going to be the most attractive woman on earth to him at any point? And then realize that he can still love you more than all these other girls that he's ogling? Hell, maybe even point out some cute ones for him to check out. I know married women that do this for their husband and I assure you its only been a positive thing. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:22 PM
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You have to realize that a woman's physical attractiveness peaks in her late teens to early 20s the vast majority of the time. There's really nothing to debate here. Moreover, it's not just that you get older its also a novelty aspect. When you see a new hot girl she is going to be more attractive to you even if the old hot girl is objectively better looking. It's just how our brains are wired based on evolution. The reason you see it as pedophilia is because we have social constructs that are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:13 PM
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Come to think of it this line of thinking also mirrors their views on gun control. "People are breaking the laws out here!" "I know what to do! Pass more laws!!!!" Insanity.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 07:06 PM
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From a guy's perspective: it's like choosing to have unlimited meals from any place on earth instead of eating a steak that is of lesser quality every time you eat it, over and over and over and over. I would easily get tired of the rapidly declining steak, that shit get's old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:00 PM
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Its a bit lopsided tho. I'm not too big on blow jobs and most of the time I can do without. I'd rather just bang it out proper. But it seems now a days in our perverse society you are a prude if you don't want to put your mouth all over the other person's genitals. For example, I was dating a girl for a while and she could only get off on clit stimulation. Which means she cannot get off on actual sex. Seems stupid to me because anatomically I know its possible for a girl to get off from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:58 PM
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You've correctly identified the fundamental role that gender plays in creating a stable and secure society. Predefined roles allow people to be content in their station and to have realistic expectations for how their life and relationships will play out. Understanding that, when we destroy gender roles what we are really doing is destroying culture and tradition itself. The progressive seeks to replace these social constructs with unbridled individualism. While we may gain some ostensible perce…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:37 PM
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"Daddy, when I'm a stupid drunk 16 year old whore that gets taken advantage of, its not because you failed to raise me as a parent or because I made horrible decisions. It's actually all because little Johnny from when we were in grade school made a bad joke."
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 05:10 PM
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Let's be real, its mostly girls that call other girls the sluts/whores/skanks. The entire premise of the video is founded on a falsehood. It's as if the makers of this video believe rape is caused by a failure to educate. Had we just told little Johnny not to call Sally a whore she'd never have been raped! The mental gymnastics is reaching new levels.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 05:08 PM
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The man's duty is, and has always been, to protect and care for the woman. In their way, they take care of us too, so it goes both ways. In the past this may have been true. Now with the new progressive culture that has festered for the past 50 years we are at a point where its entirely false. The way women used to "take care of us" was by keeping the home. Obviously those days are long gone. Instead, we have women trying to compete with men. Not care for them. Tell me why I should renounce all …
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 04:27 PM
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There's a big difference between skinny and skinny. I don't think we need to debate which is more attractive.
/r/seduction11/12/15 06:55 PM
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I'm asking about approaching girls while they're at work. Very different than approaching girls I work with. I find approaching girls while they're at work to be convenient. Easy opener and ice breaker. No distractions on their part and they are usually in an emotional state of communicative openness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:01 PM
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So many people saying its wrong to approach women while they're at work. Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:42 PM
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So in other words, "here is all this stupid fucking behavior that women engage in" But actually, "don't call us out on any of it! That would be sexists!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:26 PM
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They are illogical and overly emotional. They are self-centered and inconsiderate. They are immature and lack perspective. They blame other's for their problems and never want to take responsibility In the vain of Patrike O'Neal I ask the simple question: if you didn't have a vagina how many men would be interested in talking to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 11:07 PM
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Then its not a placebo at all. Rather, it actually works. See what I already wrote: The only acceptable answer is that the red pill works because women are attracted to confident men who don't give out their attention willy nilly. When you take the red pill you tend to adhere to those ideals. Thus, the red pill could be totally wrong about women and still work because of the way in which it affects the man's personality. Nevertheless, this has nothing to do with the placebo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:21 PM
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I could be wrong but, based on my experiences in Europe, freedom of travel state-to-state in the EU is about as easy as it is in the US. And again, in my experience, every country I went to basically everyone spoke English. I can't say if that would necessarily hold true as far as holding down a job. Then again, I see many people in the US hold down jobs and they can only speak Spanish. In either situation it's just not that easy to uproot your entire life. Leaving behind your job, friends, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:18 PM
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You're twisting things here and misusing the term "placebo effect". Placebo effect: Also called the placebo response. A remarkable phenomenon in which a placebo -- a fake treatment, an inactive substance like sugar, distilled water, or saline solution -- can sometimes improve a patient's condition simply because the person has the expectation that it will be helpful. Here, we are not dealing with "the patient's condition". Rather, we are dealing with how third parties react to the patient once h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:26 PM
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Women seek to be hypergamous. Men seek to be polygamous. If you understand the scarcity of eggs versus the near infinite supply of sperm you'll understand why this occurs on an evolutionary level. If you believe in evolution you understand that every living organism is trying to maximize its chances of survival and procreation. The disparate strategies of men and women reflect this reality. That being said women have their own version of polygamy in that they want endless amounts of validation. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:21 PM
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Yes, treat people as individuals. But we can also ask the question: on average how do things play out. A good manager will get to know his employees on an individual basis. That doesn't stop us from looking for common denominators in groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:17 PM
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I think its like the above poster said - men expect to receive material support from female superiors and paternal support from male superiors. Personally, recalling back to grade school I did not take kindly to my female teacher's reprimands but Mr. Smith the gym teacher? He could bark orders military style and I would act like a good soldier. I believe it is a primal pack-animal sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:13 PM
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Exactly. I would just add that in addition to those things, the female is more willing have casual sex with a 9 as opposed to receiving the commitment of a 7. This applies in full force to younger females because once that baby clock starts ticking they suddenly become willing to settle for a lesser value but more committed man. The major takeaway is that the RP talking point that "relationships are an exchange of male commitment for female sex" is actually a bit flawed. I would posit the real e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:57 PM
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But all of those races LE is under the same races LE in other countries .... It isn't "genetics" that is the cause of White Brits hitting 82 and Americans descended from white Brits hitting 79. Its curious to me that American whites are the only ones with lower LE than their domestic counterparts. Hard to speculate other than to rehash regarding the culture aspect. But across 300m people if your life expectancy is 2-3 year lower for every american whilst your healthcare system costs 3x as much f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:45 PM
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Its a product of having a for profit system. You get any sort of injury? Doctor wants to run any possible test that the insurance company will allow him. This is how he makes his money. The solution is to move to the system Medicare has (or is putting) into place where they don't charge based on each individual service but rather pay out depending on the "episode" i.e. we think it costs $X for a broken foot and we are going to pay out $X regardless of what tests you run. Its all about incentives…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:26 PM
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Depends on what part of the US. The mistake is to compare the US to UK in the first place. It's far more sensible to compare the US to the EU. If you compare Hawaii to the UK (both islands) you'll see the housing situation is quite similar. The same housing situation can be seen if you look at parts of CA, NY, FL, etc.. Coincidentally, these high priced areas tend to be the most populated areas in the country. Thus you can see many US youths do in fact face this housing problem. Perhaps the prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:09 PM
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So we can see some stuff emerge if you break it down by race. Asians in the US seem to actually live longer than their domestic counterparts and in fact any country on earth. Same for hispanics and most of all Africans. That leads to the conclusion that it is not the health care system but rather, the culture, lifestyle, and genetics that are the major indicators. You often see the life expectancy talking point brought up when discussing healthcare but I don't find it that persuasive. The more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:01 PM
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Its not all peachy. This basically means you wouldn't have made any substantial sum of money for two decades. Furthermore, given the absurd interest rates on student loans the tax payment is likely to exceed the original principal amount on the loan.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:57 PM
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It was in place pre-Obama. Apparently he lowered it to 20 years. http://www.studentdebtrelief.us/forgiveness/obama-student-loan-forgiveness/ http://www.finaid.org/loans/ibr.phtml The maximum repayment period is 25 years. After 25 years, any remaining debt will be discharged (forgiven). Under current law, the amount of debt discharged is treated as taxable income, so you will have to pay income taxes 25 years from now on the amount discharged that year. But the savings can be significant for stud…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:35 PM
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I'd be interested in seeing what those stats look like if you limited it to white Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:50 PM
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There is also a loan forgiveness program in the states. After 25 years they write the loan off. The catch is you still have to pay the taxes on the writeoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:46 PM
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How is what you described any different than what occurs in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:44 PM
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Uhh...how so? He gets no say in the matter. The only way this makes sense is if you flip the genders. Now you suddenly have a guy who, thanks to a broken condom, is indebted to this woman and child for decades with no recourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 04:43 PM
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You seem to be working really hard here to go against an Occam's Razor type explanation. Could you explain what "alternative forms of romantic entanglement" means to you? As far as I'm aware, for heterosexuals there is only one form. Man and woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:54 AM
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You're right. The new hip saying is "get it girl".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:50 AM
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What a convenient argument. Why can't people just accept that the current legal situation places all of the power in the woman's hands and all of the responsibility of the man's. It's just a plain fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:49 AM
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I love that you just shit on them using their own logic. Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:42 AM
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This sounds like what the average girl does to her man already. Widdle away at his self esteem while eliminating contact with his friends, one by one. That being said it's more on the dark enlightenment, Machiavellian, dark triad side of things rather than strictly RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:40 AM
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Because most people cheat if you give them the right situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 05:34 PM
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I disagree. I've had girls use that line and pulled anyway as have other guys I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:41 AM
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In my foray into RP land, dominance does seem to be pretty key. This is def most clear in the "Alpha, Beta, Omega" rhetoric, as well as all the talk about SMV. Alpha, beta, omega is only correlated to dominance in the sense that it is indicative of social standing. Obviously the higher on the totem pole an individual is, the more "dominance" they exert on others lower in the hierarchy. This is of course, a passive form of dominance and not an example of someone exerting dominance over another in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 08:11 PM
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It's not about dominance its really about showing indifference. Buzz terms that demonstrate that are abundance mentality and outcome independence. You save domination for the bedroom. You should just come off as interesting and disinterested at the same time if that makes sense. As for the hunter/prey I will just tell you the exception doesn't disprove the rule. I'll simply say you know well enough about basic dynamics. Men chase. And I don't see how that leads to anything you've mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 03:54 AM
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So basically you gave us the swiss cheese version of RP. You've answers the question of "what should I do". RP just goes a step further and answers the next question "how do they think/act". A hunter doesn't just need to know what equipment to bring. He also needs to know how does the prey behave. You people just take offense when we say women think or act in a less than perfect way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 01:07 AM
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So you'd rather attack it using emotions (i.e. morality) rather than logic? Don't you see that morality and emotions, being inherently subjective, have no place in objective discourse?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 12:59 AM
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What does: No I don't think AF:BB. Have to do with: There is no evidence that women cheat significantly more than men This is a common error made by TRP detractors. Just because it paints women in a less than perfect light doesn't mean it's saying men are perfect. This is just basic logic. evolutionary psychology Are you saying this field is not real? I don't get it. Cracking that code isn't exactly an act of genius. Easy for you to say. Tell that the growing number of incels trying to make sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 12:53 AM
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I'll give you some pointed responses: Men have always been playing the woman's game. They have a unique asset (pussy) that we innately require. That being said... If you're going to the gym, buying a car, or really any other activity for the sole purpose of appeasing women you're doing it wrong. If you're creating false persona for the purpose of appeasing women you're doing it wrong. If you think "alpha" is some cookie cutter archetype of a human being you're doing it wrong.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 06:55 PM
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The point is most subcultures have sets of terms. Don't get hung up on comparing the subgroups. They aren't speaking to a wide audience. They are speaking to their subculture. Say a football announcer is announcing a game. There may be 10 million people watching, but it's expected those people will have a basic understanding of the terms involved. They don't need to explain what a first down is or a holding penalty every broadcast. That would be insane. You already defined STEM: science tech eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 04:38 AM
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Suppose I went to conference on astro physics. And suppose they started using physicist terms that lay people didn't understand. Would you expect any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 04:06 AM
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Suppose I went to conference on astro physics. And suppose they started using physicist terms that lay people didn't understand. Would you expect any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 04:06 AM
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Who exactly do you think the audience is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:53 AM
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I've read so much red pill stuff and this feels like you are just parroting the same old talking points. Which is fine if that's what you really believe. You can choose to believe this or not but I "believed" in what RP said before RP existed. Moreover, RP isn't some end-all-be-all guide to life. It has major flaws and the goals of the community don't always align with my own. Like they say themselves - RP is a toolbox - take what you want, leave the rest. When I say these "talking points" its n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:49 PM
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And the Purple Pill debate sub is probably not designed to suit your TRP-region dialect and acronym obsession. I'm willing to bet that a vast majority if not virtually all people who spend any significant amount of time on PPD are familiar with the RP meaning of "hypergamy". Stop lying to yourself. Why, by the way, are women graded in the same way as graphite/lead pencils? I saw a hot smooth blue-coated little number in the stationary store the other day. It was black on one end with a white rin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:48 PM
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So to me this is just a failure to assert yourself on an interpersonal level. Not sure if what manner you're using "yourself" but this doesn't have much to do with me. Personally, I tend to cut relationships off pretty quickly if things get too needy. The trouble is once you decide to have kids (a goal of mine) that's not so easy to do. There may be some aspects of our culture that support this sort of arrangement (some men point out the way that men are portrayed in sitcoms, which, from my limi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:44 PM
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It's not exactly a vow of celibacy, although it could be. It could be total celibacy; could be eschewing LTRs; or merely just unwillingness to sacrifice happiness in order to appease the female (at least to the extent that is the current norm in the west). We live in a society with the basic reality is that once a man marries a woman he will end up living life more or less on her terms. He's going to be accountable to her 24/7. She's going to make decisions - big and small. She's going to shower…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:45 AM
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You misunderstand mgtow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:38 AM
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Already going my own way. Building up my followers day by day. Either more men will have to start doing the same or our society will literally go extinct. Replaced by the next patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:58 AM
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If you're specifically talking about the OP maybe instead of writing: You guys just shouldn't expect other people to understand what you're talking about when you use your own made up terms. You should have wrote: OP, you shouldn't expect other people to understand what you're talking about when you use your own made up terms. Sorry for taking you at your word? I guess that's my fault. You are a vag afterall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:16 AM
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You seem to making this a woman v. man thing when I really don't care about the latter half of that equation. All I'm really after is raw truth. I don't care how men choose to act because I don't mate with them. You can say "men do this too" but that's entirely irrelevant to the situation. What exacerbates matters is that we live in a society that is hell bent on promoting equality. But what the enlightened man comes to learn is that no woman will respect you as an equal. Either she will respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:08 AM
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You're cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:55 AM
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I think you understand the meaning as used by the community. But here's the thing, no one at TRP really gives a fuck if you understand. This is not public education.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:54 AM
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Because all words forever carry their exact literal meaning and never slightly morph to fit with the ever changing times. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 10:54 PM
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Because there are more celibate men than women and perhaps the celibate ones didn't respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 10:52 PM
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"Some" overlap you say? I'd say it's at least mostly if not virtually entirely overlap. Why would I need to talk to a woman about this? Men also have desires and fantasies. Dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 10:42 PM
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There's a clearly defined difference between fantasies and desires? As in there is no overlap? And everyone is the same when it comes to that distinction?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 10:18 PM
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I listen to actions not words. I've been around plenty of women who try to play the whole "I am a strong independent woman" routine only to become a moaning whore that soaks the sheets in their own juices the moment I spank their ass or tie them up. To be honest I've yet to be personally involved with a women who didn't harbor intense desires to be dominated. I don't know if it has always been like this or our deviant society is turning them like this but its just reality at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:26 PM
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Obviously the scenarios that these people are discussing are fantasy. But that doesn't change the fact that the desire is very much real. Basically all of these fantasies break down into two general categories: (1) domination/rape, (2) some form of cucking. Gee what a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:19 PM
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CMV: the chances of getting raped are so low its not worth worrying about. I see this on here all the time, as though its some huge risk. I've known lots of sluts and young girls into casual sex. None have even been threatened that I know of, ever. I'd say these events are extremely rare. When they happen they get a lot of attention because they activate feminist groups' tribal rage circuits, so it generates lots of internet attention and hate. But fembots post about it as though its some huge t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 08:39 PM
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Try googling the definition of 'just be yourself' then try 'dominant' then apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 06:39 PM
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Read the section on dominance in the Sex God Method. We like to think we're all special snowflakes but in reality its all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:12 AM
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Once again you're being obtuse. Dominant in the context of heterosexual intercourse has a pretty clear meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 03:53 AM
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You're being purposefully obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 03:07 AM
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I'll try to answer you in a different way. Alpha is a relative and transient concept. Alpha is defined in the context of the social situation. Depending on what's valued at any given time the criteria could change at a moments notice. That being said when it comes to getting hoes in the club basically all NFL players are alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 01:16 AM
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Lol you sure like to play this brady angle. Edelman is a name now for his on field performance and his position. Steve Young was something like a 7th round but now hall of fame. Ryan Leaf was #2 and ain't shit. Draft position doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:45 AM
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You would probably be your dog's alpha. Just like you would be your child's alpha. Alpha is a pack animal term. To borrow again from sport, if you remember when lebron went to Miami there was discussion over "who's the alpha dog". Eventually lebron won out. Does that mean Wade is a beta bitch? No he's just a lower alpha compared to lebron when they're together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:23 AM
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Let me clue you in on something about rookies and sports: rookies are treated in a similar to freshmen rushing a frat. They get hazed and have to earn their stripes. Obviously, Brady is not going to talk to a rookie (Edelman was drafted by the Pats so when he says "my first year" he's referring to his rookie season) before he even sees the field. Moreover, that doesn't change anything about my camaraderie statement - you can't have a bond before you even play on the field one game together. Now …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 11:26 PM
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Totally different. No one suggested that you should treat your SO like your personal maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:47 PM
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You don't know much about football, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:32 PM
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Being part of a legendary team and going through countless battles in the trenches fosters a sense of brotherhood and camaraderie a beta bitch like yourself will not be able to comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:17 PM
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No, you nitwit. Edelman is Brady's colleague. Edelman is the drummer to Brady's league singer. Now we do know, every groupie primarily wants a piece of Mick Jagger's McSausage™ but that's not to say they won't salivate at the chance to get some of Charlie Watts if it comes to that. To that end here's a good story from Marcellus Wiley that he shared on his radio show. As an aside, if you don't know Marcellus, he is a retired NFL defensive end who's made roughly 60 million dollars in his career an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:10 PM
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Let's take a stroll through history... 1960s happen - sexual revolution - women dole out the pussy indiscriminately like its going out of style without seeking commitment. Hence the term 'free love'. 1980s happen - sexual revolution ends - women continue whoring about but start doing it more judiciously. Now you gotta give the dumb bitch a line of coke before she'll blow you. 2000s happen - feminism takes over the mainstream; social media revolutionizes human interactions - women continue whorin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:44 PM
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There's a huge difference between being a no-name doctor/lawyer/professional and an NFL player. Let alone an NFL player in a glamour position on the premier team of the century. Pro sports players are quite literally dripping in pussy. It's well documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:32 PM
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You're doing god's work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:21 PM
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Well the solution to what is the question. False rape accusations? Stricter penalties for false accusations as well as a higher degree of confidentiality for the accused prior to conviction. The facts show rape is the most falsely reported crime. We need special precautions. Double standard between the accused and the accuser? I don't care what the rule is but it shouldn't be a different set of rules for the accuser and the accused. Imperfection of the legal system as a whole? It is fundamentall…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:15 PM
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We like direct. More direct the better. Next time maybe direct him to eat your pussy when he walks in the door. I'm sure he'll appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:07 PM
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This is getting incredibly OT now but I'm interested in what way I'm a natural manipulator! Seems like a fun hidden super power. Do I do this unintentionally? Am I doing it right now? I know I've never intentionally done it. The story of Adam and Eve is quite instructive as a metaphor. Fables aside, women have an innately valuable resource (pop singers refer to this as "pussy power" I'm told) and are incredibly adept at leveraging that power in order to control the behavior of the more clumsy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:28 PM
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I hate to be blunt but your post shows a basic lack of understanding of the Federal Rules of Evidence. Specifically, a lack of understanding of the legal term "relevance" in conjunction with character evidence as well as the discretionary nature of FRE 403. Certainly, character evidence is relevant to show conformity with that character trait. However, we understand that under certain circumstance admission of such evidence would be prejudicial (for a variety of reasons) and thus we have created…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:14 PM
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You need to realize that desire is not exactly binary. Say you're in a LTR and things are slowing down a bit and she's not putting out as much. The BP advice is to start being more giving toward her (more chores etc.). As we know this is horrible advice. The TRP advice is the opposite. This is a situation where dread game would be useful to you. Make yourself appear more valuable (abundance of options) thereby increasing her desire levels while simultaneously creating the anxiety of potential lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:02 PM
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You're missing the point of dread game. It increases attraction because it operates as a form abundance and preselection . The target of the dread games observes that the actor has an abundance of options thereby raising his perceived SMV. The insecurity of the woman then manifests itself in the form of fear of losing the man (i.e. dread of losing him). She alleviates that dread through copulation. Make no mistake that she now truly desires the man. The insecurity (i.e. dread) is the fear of los…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:50 PM
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What do you expect to happen based on the current values of the west? The average Millennial woman is in debt from school, lacks any serious career prospectives (hello liberal arts degree), has an unhealthy relationship with men after years of being pumped and dumped, and is rapidly approaching 30 with correspondingly rapidly increasingly levels of anxiety and dread wondering what the fuck is going on in her life. Maybe you shouldn't have been getting your life advice from Cosmo you dumb bitch. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:45 PM
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Except there are actually special rules of evidence designed to "shield" accusers of rape from scrutiny while other special rules of evidence designed to make sure the same type of evidence can be used against the accused. To say the deck is stacked against them is the reality of anyone with even a cursory understanding of the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:36 PM
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They've actually addressed that. It's on the sidebar somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:28 PM
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Stop trying to bring moral subjectivism into the picture you dirty heathen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:28 PM
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Isn't that obvious? Because we live in a matriarchy. Women control the narrative in the west. If you fall out of line a million white knights will show up with the shame brigade to make you an outcast. Your post is odd. The whole point of this post is that there is a double standard. And here you come saying what essentially amounts to "yea no shit there is a double standard - it's because you suck!!!!" I can't help but laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:24 PM
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This line of thinking mirrors the racism discussion. At the end you're left with the same statement, "so you want to receive special advantages because of the suffering inflicted by my ostensible (but not actual) ancestors on your dead relatives?" Great.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:16 PM
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Discussing things in a neutral manner does not generate click revenue.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/15 04:58 PM
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Be prepared for her (or especially her mother if she's in the picture) to attempt to brainwash the child against you. The way you will combat this is the way you've been doing. Don't break frame or stoop to that level.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/15 04:54 PM
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Your ability is definitely paramount. This is really the question: are you willing to risk betting on yourself or do you want to avoid risk? If its the former be your own boss and start a business. If its the latter go work for someone in an established company. Just know with lesser risk comes lesser reward. This is one aspect people miss. They want to be paid without taking on risk. In a capitalist economy it doesn't quite work like that. In the end you have to decide how much you believe in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 06:27 AM
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CEO pay is a whole different conversation. Make no mistake, the market-value of a CEO is what they are paid. That being said the market can and does fail. The problem is inequality in bargaining power. And again I would look to the market for the solution. Currently we allow owners to prevent worker organization i.e. unionize. This runs against free market principles. Were we to allow workers to organize the pay issue would solve itself without government intervention. As for education, no one i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 03:24 AM
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I'm not so convinced. Say I'm running a small business and I need a front desk person, do I want the person that works 10% "better" or the person I enjoy being around more? To me I'll take the slight loss in efficiency in order to have a more pleasant day. Culture and fit matter. These are people we are spending countless hours of our lives with. Its not a simple math equation of efficiency. Fundamentally, the idea that government should be in the business of telling people who they are allowed …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 10:37 PM
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I agree with the idea of meritocracy but there's also the reality that ~80% of the workers don't really make a difference at the end of the day. Someone could bust their ass as say, a customer service rep, while their co-worker slacks off but the bottom line result for the business wouldn't change. Under those conditions its incredibly hard to judge people off merit. You'd rather just pay them a low wage or hire someone you like on a personal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 06:09 PM
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With, "You must explain how your stance is not the result of your negative emotion." Why is anger a per se "negative" emotion? Emotions are relative. If I'm angry at the events that occurred in Paris that is generally a "correct" or positive response. Conversely, if I'm happy when I see pain inflicted on an animal that is "wrong" or negative. Anger can be good and bad and can be channelled for positive or negative. Stop slandering anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 08:40 PM
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The example I used in a previous comment is an arachnophobe. Would it be logical to conclude that an an active, untreated arachnophobe could give an objective analysis of spiders? He probably could, but it is very likely that he won't because as has been shown in research dozens of times, emotions influence opinions and perception. What if the phobia came after the objective analysis? In TRP terms this is the anger phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 08:36 PM
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There are always going to be girls like this trying to rape your time and lead you on. It's your job to learn from this and spot it early on and nip it in the bud. Don't let the allure of pussy allow them to take advantage of you. Your time and attention is your most valuable resource. Doll it out selectively and with caution.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 12:15 AM
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That's certainly true but you can look within any geographic area and observe various sub-cultures. You'll find that some are more "successful" than others. Yet these sub-cultures all face the same environmental pressures. Why the different results? The progressive will tell you discrimination but I think there is more at play.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/15 08:18 PM
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You think they want to be MGTOW? They see it as the only option in this increasingly toxic dating environment. No shit they will be bitter. Moreover, it's not as if they don't want the attention of women. Its just that they don't want to bow down to the modern gynocracy to do so. Ideally, enough men would "go their own way" and the women would be forced to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:46 PM
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You can live the life of Dan Bilzerian pretty easily. Buy some guns and blow and then pay some hookers to take pictures/have sex with you. Sure you'll be doing it on a smaller scale but the effect is the same.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/15 06:42 PM
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Women know that there isn't enough free value to go around I agree with the rest of what you wrote but I think you're giving them entirely too much credit here. It's not likely they are consciously holding double standards. I'd say most of these women truly believe things are one-sided and that men aren't struggling. So they view MRM as a joke because the idea of male privilege been beaten into their head so vigorously that the notion of that not being true is akin to a devout Muslim contemplati…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/15 07:35 PM
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Thing is that negative attention is desirable. Don't you realize how many people have become subscribers through learning about how "bad" this place is? End of the day this guy was a prodigy. Harvard at 16; PhD in mathematics; professor at Berkeley. His manifesto is a salient and holistic explanation for human nature and the corruption of that nature by modern society and technology.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 05:43 PM
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Yea he became a renegade but by all accounts he was a genius. Accepted into Harvard at 16 where he earned a degree. PhD in mathematics. And apparently a social commentator of epic proportions to boot.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 03:47 PM
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Thanks for the links. Bezmenov understands the situation on a scary level. We have to realize that anything we view on a screen is by definition mind control, whether intended as such or not. The end result of watching anything is our brain patterns change to some degree. Smart/rich/powerful people understand that and they are becoming increasingly adept at exploiting the situation as time progresses.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 03:27 AM
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I don't know about you but I have no interest in living during a revolutionary period. The strife and violence just isn't going to benefit me in any way.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 07:24 PM
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I never claimed it was a conspiracy. I would agree its normal market forces. But within those forces we have to identify that income inequality is massively expanding and that the financial sector is expanding as a % of the overall economy. If you study past empires (Rome comes to mind) you'll see the fall of the empire was precipitated by strikingly similar economic shifts. Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 05:02 PM
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How would you respond to data that shows quality of life and purchasing power has been on the decline for 40 years?
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 03:27 PM
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Its not that the rich have ill-gotten gains. Its that once they have those gains they leverage them to influence/corrupt democracy. Huge difference.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 05:26 AM
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They explain that we cling to outdated narratives to keep unhappily coupled couples together for the purported betterment of society. The author almost got it right. Its true that marriages staying together are for the betterment of people other than the spouses but its not for some existential group labelled as "society" - its actually for their children. At some level when you go through with a no-fault divorce (as described in the article) its a decision that your children's well-being is not…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 04:00 AM
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moderate cleavage . . . isn't asking for attention Don't fool yourself. If it's not attention seeking, then what is it? I think people should be able to dress however they want as long as they aren't explicitly and intentionally distracting you with actions that they take while wearing that dress. Employees are representations of the business. To that end, you've left out an important aspect; potentially offending a customer/client. where do you draw the line? I think you ask your employees to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:16 PM
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Intrinsically there will always been a double standard. Women are the ones who set the standards for attraction to men. And on the other hand, men are the ones who set the standards for attraction to women. Its really not that hard to wrap your head around if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:06 PM
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My view is simple - if looks don't matter then the only thing left of value to a woman is the beta qualities. Thus obtaining sex (relationships will still be an exchange of commitment for sex) will purely be about who is the biggest beta provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:50 PM
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I actually have to disagree with these posters who say there would be a sexual utopia. If it was truly an on/off switch what would happen would be the total weaponization of sex by women. Women would be free from the curse of the tingles. This means all that would be left for men is a competition of who could be the biggest beta. Sounds like a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:01 PM
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Its rather curious that you continue to attack me as a person. I again implore you to stay on point. What relevance does a relationship from "the Middle east" have to do with relationship dynamics in the west? I'll quote from the TRP introduction post: Because men are realizing that the sexual marketplace has shifted away from what we've been taught. Men who grew up over thirty years ago are discovering the world has changed. But this isn't the end of the world. The world is changing, but men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:40 PM
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Well, obviously we would plan it out at the weekly patriarchy meeting. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:54 PM
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Not really angry just don't see the point of continuing. You seem to find TRP morally objectionable and its the natural inference of what you've been writing. So far our discussion has gone like this: You: Well what about "A" Me: responds to A and providing followups You: Ignores response and asks, well what about "B" Me: smh Ad nauseum. PS: sidestepping is not strawmanning. Edit: and just to provide an example: in our first exchange you claimed TRP was flawed because it only applied to the US. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:52 PM
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You realize it's pointless to have a discussion when you're constantly sidestepping every comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:23 PM
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In an ironic twist you're the only generalizing. You can't honestly believe the "no critical thought" statement, can you? What you don't realize is we are all more similar than you care to believe. What you can consider generalizations someone might call common denominators. You want to make this a moral argument. Sorry. Reality is inherently amoral. Morality is your subjective feelings on the matter. In any event at least try to have some congruence comment to comment. As is you are jumping all…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:05 AM
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Bahaha good one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:09 AM
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It's not flawed at all. It has to do with sexual strategy in the west. You can't compare apples and oranges. The theory itself says it only grew as a response to modern trends. When you state a conclusion you should at least give a little explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:09 AM
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anyway, if we are saying that the expiration date is the reason a highly attractive man has it better than a highly attractive woman i can accept that. All other things being equal, isn't that, by definition, the case? Now we can also debate all other things... women dont go into relationships for emotional support (sounds like some sort of therapy), we want to be with a guy that we are intensely attracted to and who makes us feel amazing My point is in a ONS or other casual relationship its eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:39 PM
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That's true but only tangential to the commitment discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:17 PM
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Fuck. I swear living on the west coast that's 95% of girls. I'm thinking of moving. No joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:16 PM
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So your "other than" pretty much shows the point. That's before you get into the reality that a man is going to be happier going through a variety of women as compared to a woman. We can pretend we both want the same things out of relationships or we can get real. Women primarily want emotional support - sex is secondary. Men are the reverse. Who is the real benefactor of casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:14 PM
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Why's that? Don't tell me its something as existential as "society is going down the shitter."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:29 PM
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You have any sisters?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:28 PM
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Sure. I have a friend. He's a lawyer, about 6'2", chiselled jaw line, nice hair, fit, got good fashion sense, etc.. To say this guy can fuck any girl he wants is an understatement. He's basically the walking TRP definition of a plate-spinning alpha. He keeps a soft-harem of women and will occasionally promote one to non-exclusive girlfriend. Most of the girls he's fucking are at least HB7 and even then he only goes for ones in a particular ethnic group. As far as the SMP goes he is in pure abund…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:24 PM
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To be frank, for purposes of these discussions, I have little concern for places outside of the US. That's for entirely selfish reasons. The inter-gender dynamics of those places have very little relevance to my life. I can only comment on where I live. Anything else would just be second/third hand information.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:50 PM
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So do you concede that we live in a matriarchy? To answer your question, because men were stupid enough to let them. If you want to get really dark about it, men could easily take back power overnight. If you want to get really really dark about it we could do it so violently as each man finding one woman and raping her tonight then coming on TV the next day and saying "hi women this is your new future - enjoy your rape and make me a sandwhich." What could women possibly do to stop that from hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:17 PM
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Who is "we"? Some people will have good lives. Some people will have bad lives. Always has been, always will be. Even during the Great Depression there were people succeeding. But if you sit on your ass and whine about it your fate is sealed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:14 PM
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But guys like to do that for other reasons (usually intra-male dominance and personal confidence reasons) Ding ding ding. OP's post is solipsism at its finest. The idea that a man would do something that isn't for the benefit of women can't even compute their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:01 PM
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I think the guy below got this explanation for this wrong. What this means is that I'd prefer is a woman stopped trying to aspire to be a man in her life. I'd rather find someone who's going to compliment my life with feminine traits. I don't need a breadwinner I need a wife/mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:43 PM
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This would actually not cause a man to value commitment any higher. But it might cause him to be more likely to commit. At the end of the day its an exchange of commitment (i.e. resources - time, money, attention) for sex. Those factors you listed are reasons why that exchange is becoming less and less worthwhile. But make no mistake, the underlying reason for giving commitment will always be sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:42 PM
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Men want and value commitment but its not the same. Women want emotional commitment. Men want physical commitment. So yea, a man wants commitment but what that means to us is that you've committed your body for our use. Preferably, exclusive use. As a man I just don't require emotional support on that level to feel good/happy about myself. But I do require physical intimacy i.e. physical commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:39 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree here. First, a girl like this is always good as a study case if nothing more. Second, being her friend opens the door to meeting her girlfriends. As long as he's not wasting too much time or other resources I see nothing wrong with it.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 06:31 PM
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Just know that I'll never confide in you about anything again From a girl's point of view this is the worst thing that could ever happen. These bitches live to gossip and share secrets. She might as well have told you to light yourself on fire and jump off a bridge.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 06:28 PM
1

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. I've never seen any many "slut shame" but I've seen plenty of women of all walks of life. You have to realize for a man to do that in 2015 is tantamount to becoming a social pariah. Its untenable in mainstream society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:18 PM
1

So would you say more men engage in slut shaming or more liberal women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 04:55 PM
1

you people frame this as a "male vs female" dynamic, when really this is closer to a "conservative vs liberal" dynamic Sure sounds like you were. The truth is its a woman thing. Men don't do it. If you want to say one subset of women is more likely to do it than another go ahead but don't try to obfuscate the basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:21 AM
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Why is it one or the other? Let's assume you're correct. More women slut shame than men. Out of those women more of them are conservative. These two statements are not mutually exclusive and what you're saying doesn't disprove what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 11:01 PM
22

A challenge
/r/seduction04/11/15 10:53 PM
2

Yup. That's why I can't support them. In an ideal situation, I look at myself as a tool that enables my woman to pour her time and energy into the most important role in society - being a mother.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/15 03:33 PM
1

One can rationally assume one does not look for a job after they find a new product that they want and instead that a job seeker is always seeking to work in the best job they can find.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 09:19 PM
1

The supply side comment was tangential. And your description of supply side sounds more like a political speech than an economic explanation and it seems you stopped mid-sentence so hard to see where you were going with all that. Its simpler and easier to think about it like this: supply side = investment driven economy (i.e. trickle down); demand side = demand driven economy. As to the second point: Consumer spending as a component of GDP increased significantly from 1965 to 2010. See chart in …
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 07:52 PM
2

Until very recently, if a family unit was having its needs met, extra income was saved. Evidence? Relevance to the point I'm making? The "demands" today are much greater than before in terms of consumables. Evidence? Relevance to the point I'm making? Here's an easy way to see what I'm talking about. Compare the growth in GDP to the influx of women in the labor market. As you can see we went from less than 20% to over 45% in the last century and yet our GDP seems to have grown in a linear fashio…
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 07:06 PM
1

You realize GDP includes services right? Women were having their demands met prior to entering the workforce. Those demands were simply being financed by other people. Thus when they entered the workforce demand did not scale 1:1 with the influx of labor. Sure it may have scaled 1:20 or 1:10 because there was some marginal increase in demand but the key take away is that more labor came in than demand. Thus the relative value of labor (wages) decreased. Economics 101.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 06:49 PM
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If you study the last 80-100 years in the US job market you'll find that while we added some 100 million women to the work force, that addition had no effect on overall GDP growth. In effect we are now splitting the same pie only into twice as many pieces. Its a profound realization because its as close as you can get to proving that supply side economics is bullshit. In other words, demand side economics would predict that result - you had women in society who were already "demanding" products …
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 04:42 PM
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That's the ultimate irony of feminism. The movement fundamentally believes that the role females traditionally occupied did not hold value. So they sought to have women occupy the traditional male role. Now we have too many people spending too many hours at work, too much promiscuity, and no one raising their damn kids. Big surprise.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 04:32 PM
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Good choice (other than law school in and of itself which is a separate discussion). My black homie from law school (we're on the west coast) smashed like half the fucking campus. Shit was unreal. This dude was the carousel.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/15 10:15 PM
1

hahaha no coincidence I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 05:46 PM
3

I prefer the term "well rounded".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 04:08 PM
1

ITT: a bunch of people who don't know shit about the law trying to play legislator.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 04:07 PM
2

What about my feeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllsssss
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 04:05 PM
3

You're right. I think "it" would be more grammatically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 03:13 PM
1

I'm glad you think you know more about what happened that night than me. Smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:11 PM
1

There's a difference between a lie and an omission. And the fact that she wanted to see me again says nothing about what she thought going in. She probably knew most likely this was a one time thing. Even knowing that she tried to have future experiences. That doesn't mean I lied or misled her. You're reading things in to fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:08 AM
1

As I said I dont think every time a guy hits it and quits it he's using deception. There's no guarantee of continued relations under any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:28 AM
1

Nah I'm sure we both knew what that whole situation was about. Especially considering she lived 300 miles away and used to date my cousin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:24 AM
1

Don't get me wrong I understand your position. I just don't think the average matters. For example the average computer programmer is essentially replaceable at any time whereas there are a few (e.g. Jobs, Gates) that drive all the innovation. The same could be said of comparing Khan to your average Joe Schmoe. Those guys had virtually no effect on the evolution of humanity as compares to Khan. Ergo we shouldn't look at the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:20 PM
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Not sure why you're repeating the obvious. The point is if you have Khan at 1,000 and he made those 1,000 with 900 women then on a one to one comparison its not equal. In the aggregate its obviously going to be, again by definition, a one to one ratio. So that really tells us nothing about anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:00 PM
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The reason we're disagreeing is that I'm talking purely from a stand point of what's physically possible and you're talking about what tends to occur in practice. I suppose that your position is true if you look at averages. But what's the point of talking averages? By definition the averages are going to be exactly equal. We could also look who is the "best" at making humans and you'll undoubtedly find that certain men have fathered more children than would be physically possible for a woman (e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:24 PM
1

Well, even on the objective standard its not very equal. It physically takes just one man to impregnate nearly an infinite number of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:53 PM
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There's all sorts of situations that crop up where all you want is a lay. Or maybe you only realize that she was annoying as hell the next day. Here are a few examples: Banged a girl I met at a wedding reception. Next day when I woke up in her hotel I just wanted to GTFO. She kept inviting me to visit her (she was from out of town). I wasn't interested. Met a decently attractive girl off tinder. Met up and realized she was pretty damn boring to be around. At that point I remember thinking I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:36 PM
2

pretending to be crazy about someone that they don't enjoy being around is so bizarre Its not that we don't enjoy being around you. Its that we don't enjoy being around you after we're done fucking. You can think of the need to ejaculate as the itch of a drug addict. When you're dying for release your mind plays tricks on you but once you get that release your mentality changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:37 PM
0

Talk is cheap. As a man I generally don't care about a woman's accomplishments. I just want a good looking girl with a nice butt and who's fun to be around. Anything else is a bonus. Women generally seem to care about my accomplishments. Edit: also the people in this thread are no indication of what the average is. Consider the average girl doesn't use Reddit let alone post on PPD or even know about all this stuff. They're mostly spending their time taking selfies and making vapid comments on IG…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 11:35 PM
2

Why would this scenario be any different for men vs women? Because we're different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:51 PM
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Nothing is perfect. Nothing is black and white. But we can observe things sliding in one direction or another. A woman will adapt to her man. The same girl can be a nagging wretch to one man and turn around and be an affable nympho to another. Everyone has the nature for bad and good.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 09:25 PM
1

The problem with embracing the decline is that it isn't long term unless we get something going. It's a short term life strategy that doesn't hand anything forward to the next generation. It's a locally greedy, globally suboptimal strategy. Nail on the head. Personally, I'd just suggest using your 20s and most of your 30s enjoying the short-term and then try to settle when you're much older.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 08:30 PM
1

There is no binary alpha/beta distinction. Its a sliding scale. Moreover, its context dependent. The real reason "TRP invokes such revulsion" is that its their position that women are a homogenous group that can be gamed using standard principles. From the female perspective it dehumanizes and belittles them. Problem is TRP doesn't care about feelings, only results.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:07 PM
1

Try to have the cognitive ability to distinguish between being silencing in an internet forum versus silencing people in real life. TRP is a utility its not a place to discuss who is right or wrong. The discussion is per se one sided. Think of it like this - TRP discusses a wide variety of topics in the sub but that doesn't mean the people there advocate for discussing those things in the outside world. Similarly, the reaction you would receive for voicing your opinion on the sub is entirely dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:02 PM
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"Bad" is an entirely subjective term. Are you the type of guy who didn't want to have a family and instead wanted to have a ton of casual, vapid sexual experiences? Things are looking pretty good. Are you the type of guy who wants to be a family man and pour his love into them? Things are looking pretty bad. A good amount of men fall into that second category. For them the ideal is the beta life: oneitis, the pedestal, all that fairy tale bullshit. In the past that was a viable option but now no…
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 07:28 PM
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As a person who comes from a culture where arranged marriage was the norm even two generations ago I'd say that your first question just about covers it. Individuals were vetted based on their family and you mostly were married off as a virgin in your teens or early 20s at the latest. Those factors alone eliminated 90% of the problems we see with modern marriage. I disagree with the lack of pedalization though. If anything it was on a much higher level and essentially institutionalized. It was e…
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 07:25 PM
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A few questions come to mind after reading your post: What percentage of US women fit the LTR "rare woman" category? My guess is that it starts relatively high with teenage girls but steadily declines to zero as they age. To what extent can a strong frame compensate for the damaged women our society creates? Can a strong man mold, or even heal a woman? The idealist in me would like to believe so but its a high risk maneuver and the pragmatist wants to steer clear all together. Would you say over…
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 07:16 PM
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Its pretty simple, when the facts don't back them up they create their own "facts": One landmark study found that science faculty at research universities rate applicants with male names as more competent, more hireable, and more deserving of a higher starting salary than female applicants, even when the resumes are otherwise identical. Since the actual hiring rates show a different story they simply create a study to "prove" the bias is still there. Hey guys here's an idea: why don't you study …
/r/MensRights23/10/15 04:33 PM
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It's pretty simple. These types of people don't believe in nature at all. For them life is 100% nurture. In other words, every single person is an entirely blank slate. From there society determines what you are. It's the victim model. You have no agency - you're just a product of your immediate surroundings. Afterall, it must be this way. If our biology were to actually dictate our ability or interests then things like "gender is a social construct" or "we are all totally equal in every way" wo…
/r/MensRights23/10/15 04:26 PM
3

The first person a girl learns to manipulate is her father. She usually has that mastered by the age of 4. It's hilarious to observe in the first person.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 05:49 PM
5

It's not a dichotomy there are many forms of power.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 11:49 PM
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The response to the top comment was the best: Comment Here's the thing. This culture LOVES to tell women that they have an expiration date, and that they're just past it, no matter how old they are. It keeps women desperate, it keeps our standards low, it keeps us buying products we don't need to meet a standard of beauty that isn't even real. Response One of the problems when it comes to women and an "expiration date" is that if you want biological children there pretty much IS an expiration da…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 09:57 PM
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They are part of a new religion I'd refer to as Sameism. The main tenant of their religion is that all people are perfectly equal in every way. Accordingly, if anything happens in the real world that cuts against that belief (e.g. the pay "gap") then the obvious answer is discrimination is occurring. Because its a religion they refuse to look at any evidence that may disprove the underlying tenant of their beliefs. Similarly, because its a religion only their holy texts (progressive social scien…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 08:08 PM
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The thing is they always complain about men having more overt power than women but in doing so they totally ignore the reality of soft power. For every act of overt violence perpetrated by a man there are acts of emotional and psychological violence committed by a woman. In many cases those wounds cut deeper and take longer to heal. But in this article the author completely ignores those realities and instead decides to place blame squarely on the man. Typical.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 08:01 PM
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When he asked the boys what they thought male qualities were they said: "leader," "protector," "caretaker," "responsible," "head of the house" Yet he, himself associates the following with being a man: I think instantly of mayhem, confusion, violence. And yet he things they need to change their views on what a man is. Holy fucking shit. He did one thing correct: It is clear to me that manhood in this nation is in deep crisis, our growth stunted at epidemic proportions. The only part he fails to …
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 07:55 PM
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In her view any male preference that doesn't align with her preconceived notions of fairness is outdated and should be replaced: The League’s heavily scrutinized admissions-based model is our attempt to create a founding community of high-achieving, diverse, and influential members that will serve as trailblazers to help change the conventional gender views still prevalent in our society. Its part of a growing trend that views the male interest as bad (sexist/outdated) and the female interest as…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 05:03 PM
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Exactly. Its all about controlling the narrative. The easiest way to control the narrative is by taking the moral high ground and demonizing your opponent. In the end I believe it's at the core of their nature to be unhappy about something. Since the "big" problems are all gone they now look for increasingly inconsequential/imaginary issues to satisfy their nature. I honestly don't believe they could live a life of contentment. Its antithetical to their being. The emotional rollercoaster is too …
/r/TheRedPill20/10/15 03:34 PM
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I'm guessing he's a Marxist and "sex positive".
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 07:31 PM
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Look at all the support he receives in the comments. As with most things like this you can just flip the genders and imagine the outrage that would ensue. "Just found out my masseuse-boyfriend is actually a gigolo and has been railing countless middle-aged hambeasts." Reading further she's already priming him to be her cuck: Laura had some really awesome insights for the kinds of men she's had as clients. Most are married men who want/need some physical attention but don't want to cheat. We all …
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 07:26 PM
1

Would you at least admit the majority view in the college system is feminist/progressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:37 AM
2

Its pretty interesting to interact with these professional womyn. They also seem to have some common problems: constantly stressed out, feelings of being overworked, simultaneously failing to set any boundaries as far as their time at work (say hello to being at work 6-7 days a week and until 10 p.m. on the regular); feelings of being picked on at work (that damn patriarchal corporate environment). This is before you get into their relationship problems (or lack thereof). They all hate the work …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:16 PM
0

These comments really help further the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:12 PM
1

This is getting to be circular. That was your logic. I repeated it to show you were internally inconsistent in applying your own logic. To be clear - I don't purport to be unable to speak on views that I don't personally hold. Instead, I purport to be able to speak on anything to which I have knowledge of regardless of whether I agree with the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:05 PM
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The brain is not a sex organ. The heart pumps blood. There is no evidence of a soul. Beyond that there is also the fact that nothing you've written here has anything to do with my prior statement regarding sexual attraction being a prerequisite to any romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:23 PM
1

What you said was: "I don't really follow either." Implying that you lack awareness. I try not to speak on behalf of beliefs that aren't mine. And yet you constantly speak about TRP ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:22 PM
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Let's assume what you're saying is true and a reduction in testosterone allowed society to flourish. Your logic is still flawed. The fact that a reduction in test occurred doesn't mean that test wasn't the driving force behind innovation. You're connecting dots that just aren't there. For example let's say there is an island somewhere that is constantly bombarded by tsunamis. Later on the weather patterns change and instead of extreme weather there is only rain. Now trees are free to grow wild. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:18 PM
1

If that's the case how can you be qualified to say these things, that you admittedly have no knowledge of, are not affecting society?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:14 PM
1

Is there a difference between the feminist agenda and the progressive agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:08 PM
1

Maybe you want to spend time with a SO that isn't sexualy attracted to you. However, for most people, mutual sexual attraction is a prerequisite to a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:05 PM
1

A very, very, very small and minor group think like that. Evidence? It's not a large influence in society. Evidence? I would point to the UN as an example of how the world government is lock-step with this sentiment. TRP thinks very poorly of me as a woman Not true. [political] sources It's odd you'd turn to politics. Political rhetoric is worthless. Why don't you read some huffington post or NY Times OP ed pieces. Or better yet the trash coming from the UK which is a few steps further down the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:55 PM
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Exactly. The underlying reason women prefer "masculine" men is that if there were a tribe who's women selected for "unmasculine" men those men would be killed in any sort of confrontation with a masculine tribe. A few hundred years of social progress cannot undo millions of years of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:48 PM
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Except feminine traits aren't defined as unmasculine traits. Men and women are not suppose to be antagonistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:45 PM
4

You might consciously hate it. But your wet pussy will be singing a different tune.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:42 PM
2

That kind of shows a big problem in today's world. Its as if there is a war by women against men. They became so caught up in proving their worth that they feel the need to compete with men. Its like no dummy - you are different. We are not in competition. We are suppose to be complimentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:41 PM
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I don't think you know what frame is. Women have been topping from the bottom since the dawn of time. Now they want to top from the top and bottom at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:28 PM
1

I try to avoid bundling up "society" into one massive group. The truth is there is a growing sect in society that is gaining social and political power. They have a decidedly anti-white, anti-straight, anti-male point of view. They view the straight white men as the sexist, racist, oppressor. They view straight white men as being the source of their problems. Its a borderline religion. Hell, us white devils are even born with original sin (privilege) according to these people. Its easy to dismis…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:40 PM
1

When you realize these groups are a reaction to a society that increasingly demonizes straight/white/men (check all that apply) you'd understand why the rhetoric is becoming more extreme. On the other hand the way in which TRP has dissected inter-gender relations makes PUA (used to be cutting edge) look infantile.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:38 AM
2

The funny thing is if guys would stop liking girls IG pics and instead like each others it would work in their favor.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 02:07 AM
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Another thing that needs to be added regarding Part 2 is that now in the digital age, due to the endless stream of validation obtained by women, even the mediocre girls think they are in the top 20%. In essence we have another 80/20 rule in that the top 80% of girls think they are in the top 20%. The average pre-wall girl with any value whatsoever is just a plain stuck up bitch when you get down to it. But can you blame her? In a sea of overvalued pussy there's a growing beta population more tha…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 08:20 PM
2

Glad you made a thread out of your earlier comment. I prefer to think of the inner voice as my advisor. Its the past me (all of my experiences) trying to depart wisdom. Rather than ignore the advisor I must listen and make a decision. The key is to not let the advisor become my boss or to dwell too long on any particular piece of advice. Instead I try to practice listening, contemplating, and deciding as quickly as possible. When your advisor is giving you information and you don't make a decisi…
/r/TheRedPill10/10/15 11:02 PM
1

There's a ton of good stuff from that book but ultimately I disagree with his methods. I prefer to think of the "thinker" as more of an advisor. Its the past me (all of my experiences) trying to depart wisdom. Rather than ignore the advisor I will listen and make a judgment. The key is to not let the advisor become your boss or to dwell too long on any particular piece of advice. Instead practice listening, contemplating, and deciding as quickly as possible. When your advisor is giving you infor…
/r/TheRedPill10/10/15 11:00 PM
2

In boys, that "victim mentality" mindset just permanently fucks them up in the head. And then we can follow that up with: why is that the case? When a girl plays the victim card she is showered with support and comfort and she is validated. When a guy plays the victim card he is shunned and looked down upon and he becomes an outcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 08:18 PM
0

I'll ask you a question: have you ever observed a group of kids interact? I would posit to you that the same group dynamics form there and they're even more apparent. A leader will emerge and the rest of the kids will temporarily adopt his mannerisms and interests. Whatever the leader wants to do the other kids will follow. Its truly fascinating and instructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 05:53 PM
1

I was in London for a few months a couple years back and it was rather shocking. At first I thought there was a high proportion of homosexuals, what with the tight pants and purses the men were carrying, then I was informed "that's just how they dress here". What's worse is I see the same culture growing on this side of the pond. Its scary to consider what the state of affairs may look like in a few decades. Someone could write an amazing dystopian novel about all of these things a la A Brave Ne…
/r/TheRedPill08/10/15 04:48 PM
0

That wasn't my claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 01:47 PM
8

This comment has nuggets of gold sprinkled throughout. You touched on something that I believe is the underlying rationale of the neo-progressive agenda: the individual is powerless. That's the starting point. You cannot rise in your station. You cannot create your own identity. Your thoughts don't even belong to you. Instead you a a perpetual victim of the system. And their solution? Make the system bigger. When you really break it down and build it back together its utter nonsense and self-def…
/r/TheRedPill08/10/15 04:18 AM
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Plenty of girls like a man in uniform. My point was by restricting yourself to only those you're effectively glorifying war. But what can I say. The clit wants what the clit wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 02:42 AM
0

If I told you water was wet and it was self evident would you require more evidence? I'm sure you can go find a study done on group dynamics and hierarchy - I believe in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 01:37 AM
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And you just summed up a huge problem with our electorate. We've been fighting capitalist imperialist wars ever since the end of WW2. Korea through Iraq. Make no mistake these are a different breed with different objectives i.e. profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 01:36 AM
1

And then you wouldn't be human. The point is you shouldn't directly engage in activities to garner attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 11:46 PM
5

Me saying these particular wars are bad doesn't mean I categorically believe all wars are bad. Try to have a little nuance here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 11:46 PM
1

Its obvious that it also creates attention but that's not to say it doesn't have other, more important benefits. The number one benefit is that it builds your confidence. I do it because I want to have some respect for myself when I look in the mirror. Gee, its almost as if there are a ton of reasons to lift other than attention. We've already identified a few!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 10:19 PM
1

If you're doing it solely for the attention seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 09:57 PM
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extraordinary circumstances to help his friends Closer to extraordinary circumstances to help further propagate the US corporate global hegemony. Only a few have demonstrated what honor, courage, and commitment is all about. You could say that. I'd call it naivete and exploitation. Since we're quoting things We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 07:54 PM
5

Any men you admire that aren't part of the military industrial complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 07:01 PM
9

Attention-seeking for the sake of receiving attention is feminine. Attention-seeking for the sake of accomplishing other goals is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:49 PM
2

I think you have to separate OP and TRP. The former does not speak for the latter. That being said, I do agree there are some serious flaws in OP's understanding of alpha. It appears at least that we can agree on the concept. Personally I think TRP doesn't do a good enough job fleshing out the alpha/beta paradigm. For one, they don't factor in omegas. And for two, I'd like to see them flesh out the concept of alpha/beta being contextual in nature - its generally accepted to be the case but not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:29 PM
0

OP's definition is pretty much worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 05:39 PM
1

Democracy is actually pretty damn importable (look at how it spread like wildfire during the turn of the 18th century). What you're missing is the populace needs to be at a certain education and intelligence level. It didn't work in places like Afghanistan because the majority of the people are illiterate. You don't see it spreading any further today because all of the countries whose populations met the aforementioned criteria already adopted the paradigm centuries ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:44 PM
1

This is not nurture. This is force i.e. you will be jailed if you engage in polygamy i.e. you will not be allowed to bed my daughter unless you buy her from me and marry her i.e. we will kill you if you don't believe in our invisible man in the sky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:41 PM
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To add to the religion comment (which is damn true). You also need to consider the "toxic" label itself. Who's labeling it as toxic? Do they have bias? Is it really that toxic at all? What type of people get more shit done in this world from a practical sense - the cutthroat business man with drive and ambition or the compassionate considerate do-gooder who's always subverting his goals to help other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:40 PM
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No. You get the pressure and responsibility of having all the omegas/betas rely on you for guidance and leadership. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:23 PM
0

No person is alpha in every single scenario. A guy could be a class-A pussy slayer but drop him with a group of survivalists on an island and he may fall in line as a beta if he lacks the requisite skills. Most of the time you hear people discuss alpha/beta its in single context of attracting females but keep in mind its a ubiquitous social hierarchy that is present in any situation where a group of humans are interacting/collaborating. Any single individual can be an alpha, beta, or omega in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:20 PM
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Have you ever observed a group of males? Depending on the activity and the relative experience and skill levels with said activity an alpha(s) will emerge and begin to lead the group. Its natural. Alpha is not a characteristic its a mode of conduct. An individual can fluctuate from alpha to omega depending on the social context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:15 PM
2

Don't you know? She endured being stared at. She's a survivor.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 05:15 AM
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Seems the UK is the most feminized country in existence. I blame the men. Bunch of pansies from what I've seen while I was there. Some nice blokes but just sissified.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 05:14 AM
1

It may not work "well" but it's really their only and thus best strategy.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 04:44 AM
1

Definitely. But as we've seen there's somewhat of an inverse relationship between professional success and overall happiness. Its hard to think in these terms because they're almost polar opposites of the way we measure our own happiness.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 04:16 AM
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Commitment from a high value man is absolutely amazing for a woman. You're looking at this from the male perspective. Everything is flipped when you look at it from her perspective.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/15 08:25 PM
2

Definitely. You have to be willing to let the fish go back into the stream. Paradoxically once you do there's an exceedingly high chance it will swim back to your hook in its own volition.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/15 08:24 PM
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Yup and then a few things can happen: She ends up adopting and enjoying the male abundance paradigm and goes on to have tons of casual sex with little regard for what it does to her future value. She gets pumped and dumped several times until she becomes jaded and "totally over those fuck boys" but deep down still cannot control the tingles. In the rare case she gets to have her cake an eat it to if she's high enough value to get him to settle.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/15 08:21 PM
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The reason a lot of guys think women have it better is because they are judging "better" based on the male paradigm - as you put it the desire for abundance. If you judge each sex based on their corresponding paradigm its pretty clear we have it better. More control. Longer window of opportunity. Less reliance on a mate in the first place.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/15 08:16 PM
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Cooperation/compromise/communication code words for sacrificing what he wants to do for what she wants.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/15 07:58 PM
22

social construction, it is a function of biology Let's flip that on its head once and for all. Society itself is a function of biology.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/15 07:45 PM
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What blows my mind is that we've essentially had a generation of boys who were taught to be girls. Now we're starting to see the blow back with these boys not having a strong identity. The progressives response? Need to take our feminization tactics further. It literally boils down to "the problem with boys is we haven't gone far enough in turning them into girls." Absolutely backwards. Its painfully obvious we have a war on men. Evidenced chiefly by the fact that the only time you hear the word…
/r/TheRedPill05/10/15 07:41 PM
1

so almost half anyway 6% from being double childbearing is much more difficult for women Why does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 05:01 PM
1

She grew her children from scratch in her own body Not actually true at all. We could just as easily characterize it as the following: I grew my child with my jizz using her body. She is but a vessel for my children. A child gets most of their DNA from that "single jizz". Why should the mere vessel get all the credit? *Note I don't actually hold this view - just making it to show the absurdity of your own
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:29 PM
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I have to disagree here insofar as the women were in any danger of being expelled from the tribe. Tribes were probably in the business of hording women. After all, women are the bottleneck in terms of population growth. I doubt many women were worried about being expelled. That being said, I do agree in the sense that the female needs to gather social information in order to know her place in the tribe so that she may branch swing to a higher value male. But at this point its probably hardwired …
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 04:37 PM
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A lot of this has to do with whether you believe collectivism or individualism is a better strategy in the long run.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 04:22 PM
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Without being allowed to vent properly they may never leave that phase. If not here then where else? Its a process. You don't just "shut the fuck up and be stoic". It doesn't work like that.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 04:19 PM
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Thing is women are now taught to go against their nature. I see so many unhappy women these days. The depression rates back up this observation. They seem lost and overwhelmed. But hey at least I can get my dick wet right? /s I personally believe women are more malleable as compared to men. Probably because they've been the subservient sex since the beginning of humanity. They are happiest when lead but blue this women's lib movement told them that is demeaning. Well we saw the results - depress…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 02:17 AM
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/facepalm that editted quote was meant as satire to show your the flaw in your generalizations. So you at least agree things are getting worse for men? I don't proscribe to group think. The new paradigm is good if you like shallow relationships and casual sex. I like deeper connections. Unfortunately it's hard to connect with a girl who's emotionally damaged from being constantly pumped and dumped. It's also harder to find a girl who actually wants to be the feminine counterpart to my masculinit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 11:56 PM
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I'm not sure what any of that has to do with this discussion. I can only speak for myself. I don't speak for any group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 07:31 PM
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So the solution is quite simple: get over yourself. I'm not going to apologize for the sins of dead strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:51 PM
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I can only go off first-hand examples. I'll give you one (of many). My friend is really big into water sports, wake boarding, and outdoors type shit. He started dating this girl. Over the course of the years they've been together she's now suddenly into all of these activities. This exact same thing happened (with different activities) when it came to my most recent ex-girl friend. And I've seen it countless times with other girls. Its almost as if its natural. But I do feel like it's a problem …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:50 PM
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That doesn't answer the question. Calling a particular person a bitch has no bearing on anyone else. For example. if I call someone a dick men don't view that as an existential insult on their manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:01 PM
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Why is "little bitch" an insult? Edit: to women that is; obviously its an insult to the person its directed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:41 PM
1

Why do you think men are perceived as stronger? Is it a conspiracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:32 PM
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Take that up with society. Women are considered weak. Men are considered strong. Calling a male a man is a compliment. Referring to a female as a woman could be taken as an insult in certain contexts. When you want to insult a man you call him a woman - the reverse doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:15 PM
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What part of "societal perception" don't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:17 PM
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Except this has to do with societal perception. How is a man who takes a woman's name perceived? How is a woman who takes a man's name perceived? Hint: these answers are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:41 PM
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I disagree. Its spot on. I expect my wife to make important decisions and be giving me input. Not be some mindless slave that does my bidding. Who the fuck wants that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:13 AM
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I feel like that's what it used to be. Now its just shit test into oblivion while using their sex appeal as a weapon of subjugation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:55 AM
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I've seen it far too much. So many career women that are unhappy. It's funny how law school taught me RP before RP existed. You meet a lot of alpha men in that setting. And you meet a lot of feminist career women with their "empowerment". They seem to all have pet dogs/cats and unhappy lives. Well into their 30s without a husband. Wasted all of their time on obtaining a career - something that didn't even make them happy. What will be their future? 60 hour work weeks and vibrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:47 AM
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One thing I will say in closing is that it's really not your fault. One thing I've learned is that women are fucking horrible at telling whether a guy is good/bad/worthy/garbage/etc.. For some reason you women are just shit at figuring that out. I see so many garbage guys with women and I question: why the fuck are they with this shit bag. In the end you should blame feminism. We now live in a society that actively discourages masculinity in men. You're witnessing the results firsthand. Your sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:42 AM
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Explain to me what value is there for a male in getting married? Everything that could be had within a marriage can now be had outside of one. The only difference is you're signing a contract agreeing that you can be financially raped at the drop of a hat. Male-female interactions have always boiled down to an exchange of commitment for sex. In the modern day sex is now readily available without providing commitment (instead all that needs to be provided is tingles). Under these parameters its l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:35 AM
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Take a look at this. Picard is the captain but over the course of their time together Riker did a SHIT TON of leading and even on rare occasion going against his captain's judgment for the betterment of the ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:25 AM
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Things are starting to come together now. You're jaded from past experiences. Welcome to the club. So did you divorce him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:21 AM
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It takes several years to determine someone's character I couldn't disagree more. Most people can easily be read within minutes. You just test their frame and break it down. Then you get the real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:18 AM
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Go read around and you will find how poorly done the study was "proving" that crap. Its right along the lines of the gender pay gap and the 1/4 college women stat. Social science has been co-opted by partisan politics. Don't be a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:15 AM
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https://twitter.com/fucktyler/status/285670822264307712?lang=en
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:13 AM
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Would it make you more comfortable if you realized that its not an ideal but actually an evolutionary role? Your brain is naturally programmed to seek out this type of man. Its for the betterment of the species. The problem is our modern feminist society tries its very hardest to undo this programming for boys and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:12 AM
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You can build your own unicorn. Patrice has a lot of good commentary on this stuff. In fact this ties back into the captain first mate discussion. At her core a female is vetting the man for his ability to lead her. If you aren't finding unicorns its because you need to be a better leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:02 AM
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Maybe its you who isn't reading what I write: A man who doesn't want the job of a captain is a beta or an omega. Find a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:55 AM
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OK. So this is why things haven't been clicking so far: You're mistaken about what c/fm is. It doesn't mean that the woman is looking for a man to make every decision for her or that the man wants to make decisions. Instead its a evo-psych principal: women are looking for a man to be their leader. And how does a leader lead? By example. Decisions don't (and in a proper setup won't) be explicitly made. Rather the two will fall naturally into the dynamic. Have you noticed that when a guy and a gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:49 AM
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And what does that have to do with c/fm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:46 AM
1

So what's your points since your current articulation is unintelligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:21 AM
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Because its a way to protect yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:58 AM
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I think you're operating under the assumption that you have to save for a house and kids. Saying a man is a child for not doing those things is subverting the captain / first mate dynamic. The first mate has to respect the captain. That's not to say the captain can't be the one to "blame" for the lack of respect. In fact I would always blame him. He has to run the ship. It's his job to make everyone willingly fall in line. When I say little decisions I mean like what color towels to hang in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:57 AM
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So siblings won't have the same name? I'll say it again, that's odd and complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 09:39 PM
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I have a fair amount of goodwill (from a business perspective) built into my name. Its not practical for me to change it. That's before we even get into the shame of changing my name from a social perspective. You can say you don't agree with that social norm but reality is reality. You won't be changing people's perceptions. If you want your husband to be perceived as a weak little bitch you will tell him to take your name. Plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 09:38 PM
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I don't care about her changing her name but my kids will have my name. No hyphen. Plain and simple. Call me a shitlord for all I care. What your boyfriend's family did seems rather odd and needlessly complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 09:28 PM
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You might consider them important. Other people might not. In any event, they have nothing to do with captain/first mate and like I said if they have any relevance its to undermine the entire notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 09:24 PM
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Why do you need to save for a house or kids? Personally I won't be doing that. I'll do those things when my current situation allows. I don't see myself sacrificing the present for the possibility of the future. Let's take a step back: you are saying a man is not a captain because he fails to conform to your decision-making. Well, congratulations but you've managed to turn the whole paradigm on its head. A first mate does not tell the captain where to chart his course. What kind of back seat sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:58 PM
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The fact that you characterize AWALT like that kind of proves the point. Go read my first post because it directly applies here. I wouldn't say its impossible for men and women to have platonic relationships but I will say that in the majority of these ostensible platonic relationships one or more parties harbors sexual feelings about the other person. Have you read the post regarding the single mothers? Sure its filled with rage and has a click-bait inflammatory title but try to look past the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:47 PM
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Which is why things were so much easier/better when expectations were well defined. Instead of having a clear role in life and a proven path to happiness we have people chasing this unachievable, transitory notion of what an acceptable relationship is and then depressed/divorced when they fail to obtain them. There's no surprise the sexes are becoming more separated and hostile at an alarming rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:36 PM
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No one believes all relationships are the same. Instead what's said is there are common denominators among people. And I can't see how you could reasonably disagree with that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:32 PM
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You seem to believe the first mate does not make decisions. On the contrary, the captain must delegate to and rely on the first mate in making many of the decisions for the ship. Females are more fixated on what many men would consider pointless/mundane details in life. Perhaps this is where you came up with the idea that men don't want to be decision-makers. Don't confuse apathy with inability. And don't think not caring about the small stuff means when a "real" decision needs to be made it won…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:31 PM
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Its not a binary situation. Rather, its comprised of both new and old ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:21 PM
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Probably a factor but the predominant factor is the chemical effect of puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 07:04 AM
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That was the implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 07:03 AM
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The flaw is in what women find attractive. Historically did not involve looks. As other commenters have pointed out that is now changing and looks are becoming increasingly important.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 03:26 AM
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You're using the wrong terms. The correct distinction is logical versus emotional. Men operate on a set of logic, however flawed or irrational it may be. Whereas women operate based off their current emotional state. Both have the capability of being rational or irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 03:17 AM
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Yes we "grow" out of that. But what causes that growth? Puberty. Which explains why the sexes diverge once reaching majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 03:16 AM
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The difference is in the method. Feminism creates power for the group through collectivism and government. TRP creates power for the individual through skill improvement and introspection. In a way they are similar but in way they are polar opposites.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 03:09 AM
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"Looks" are just a proxy for attractiveness. Unlike men, women place a greater degree of attraction in men in non-physical attributes. One such non-physical attribute is confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 04:44 PM
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The thing is women are now starting to think more like men i.e. casual sex is all they (claim to) want a lot of the time. The culture promotes it from an early age. It's interesting to see on one hand you have the sexual liberalization of females and yet on the other hand the same crowd pushing for that complaining about objectification. I've yet to see a prog/fem rationalize that hypocrisy in a logical fashion. Of course we know the answer is maximizing the female sexual imperative.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/15 01:40 AM
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If: all tall men are doctors Then: all doctors are tell men Tell me what's wrong with this logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:48 PM
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The success (or lack thereof) of RP marriages has nothing to do with the overall decline of marriages. Basic logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:46 PM
1

So no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:46 PM
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My apologies for not fully articulating myself from the onset. Perhaps I took for granted that my comments would be read at face value. In my view, confidence is the number one more important thing. But as I said previously, that alone probably won't get the job done. As for lifting, you can lift because girls like buff dudes but more importantly I believe you should lift to build self-confidence. But then again that's also why lifting is so important - it simultaneously builds both your confide…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:44 PM
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You're reading things into my comments that simply aren't there. I'm not suggesting confidence is some sort of magic bullet. I am suggesting that its necessary but independently insufficient. What does that mean? You need confidence but confidence alone won't win the day. I'm not sure what the point of your post is. No shit - if someone walks around doing a ton of socially unacceptable things (body pillows wtf?) he's going to be a pariah. The average dude unless he's totally unaware of social no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:24 PM
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I'm guessing you haven't dated many women or interacted with them on a sexual level. Or hell, even watched the way women interact with each other (this might actually be the most telling of all). Either that or you don't notice the constant games they play. Most of the time its very subtle and the average doofus doesn't even realize he's being played. When it comes to the psychological game of romance, the average man, even if he has taken the pill, is carrying a knife to a gun fight when he dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:16 PM
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Good job moving the goal posts, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:14 PM
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That's possible. The way I look at it is there are a certain number of buckets you need to fill and the most empty bucket will always be your limiting factor. For you it was social skills and once you filled that bucket (since you other buckets were already filled) you saw results.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:12 PM
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women liking chiseled protectors These things are not mutually exclusive. Also the examples you gave are more context-based whereas having a good job and hard-body is more of a ubiquitous type of confidence booster. Is that confidence attractive to women? That's an odd statement. You (your confident self and the aura/energy you exude) is what's attractive not some idea of confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:09 PM
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Yea I wasn't horrendously fat - we're talking 5'10 with a 38" waist - in fact most of these body positive mouthbreathers would call me "totally normally" even at my most plump. I was just what I would consider a fat fuck with no muscle. Probably your run of the mill lard-bucket by US standards. Its not that being fit or having a good job is full-proof - but it helps, a lot. I'm getting pretty close to my goal body right now and trust me each time I look in the mirror and see I'm closer my confid…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 08:30 PM
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I disagree. If you're depressed about your life in general you will give off those vibes. If you're happy and confident you will give positive and attractive vibes. Having gone from a total fatass about 10 years ago to being pretty damn fit today I can tell you its done wonders for my confidence. Before I was in a perpetual state of insecurity. Now if I even get a glimpse of my reflection in a window I get a jolt of confidence. Your life doesn't fit into neat little boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 07:55 PM
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Honestly? Divorce rates totally haven't gone up and marriage rates totally haven't gone down and promiscuity/polyamory totally isn't on the rise!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 07:23 PM
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We operate in a perpetual state of imperfect information. Accordingly, we apply certain prejudices in dealing with particular situations in order to simplify our lives. When I see a snake in the grass lying in wait I will avoid it because my prejudice tells me it will bite me. Perhaps some snakes would not bite but I do not have the time or the resources to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 07:20 PM
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TRP teaches you to pretend to be more confident than you really are and fake it. You're conflating PUA and TRP. PUA teaches you to fake confidence. TRP tells you the activities to engage in (lifting, career, hobbies, competition) that will build your confidence. The traditional notion of what it is to be a man is toxic. It is harming you. Is the traditional notion of being a woman also toxic? Should women repress their natural instincts because its also harming them? The people in TRP blame wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 06:31 PM
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human interactions are just a contest of who can best exploit the other Maybe it would change your view if you understood that exploitation can have adversarially or cooperatively. In other words, the mere fact that there is mutual benefit derived from an interaction doesn't mean that either (or both) side isn't manipulating the situation for personal gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 06:24 PM
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Going back to nomadic times is a full paradigm earlier than the era I'm considering. Let's at least try to keep the discussion within the agrarian period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 06:21 PM
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The point of all those things (with weight lifting being number one) is to become confident. Its not for the primary purpose of impressing the women - that's stupid as fuck and antithetical to the entire notion that you should live your life to benefit yourself rather than to appease someone else. Do you think a guy who thinks he's a loser will have the social skills? What you really mean by social skills is primarily confidence with a bit of tact and awareness sprinkled in. When you look in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 06:17 PM
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I think you have to articulate women bashing. Its only smart to try and understand the nature of women (and humans in general) obviously not all of our nature is peaches and cream and therefore on a conceptual level you will engage in "women bashing" particularly when discussing the system as a whole (i.e. the sort of discussion that occurs on RP). What's stupid is to start actually bashing women in real life or to their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 06:16 PM
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Where did you get the idea he said RP came up with the concept? RP just observes the concept in action and comes up with a strategy to optimally exploit it. You could make an easy sports analogy (hope it's not lost on you): football rules vs. football strategy - rules are made by the league (in RP land the league is nature) strategy is made by the coaches (in RP land the coaches are the contributors). The coaches see that the rules for pass interference are more lax, so they employ a more pass h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 06:11 PM
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how did men know kids were theirs before? Most likely by killing/excluding other men away from their tribe. Much in the same way a male lion would do the same today. Also keep in mind that in a world without BC the first person she has sex with will probably be the person whom she gets pregnant by. This will create a far strong pair bond than what we normally see in today's world. So we have a natural way of knowing: (1) she is pair bonded; (2) she is without current offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 06:01 PM
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TRP tends to assume the primary female strategy to do this is to seek each from a different man. AF for the first. BB for the second. That's actually not true. The primary strategy is to find it in one single individual but if they cannot obtain that they will seek to fulfill these roles from multiple companions. In other words what you described is the predominant view you just don't see it discussed because its generally assumed (and in practice plays out as such) that they will have to resort…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 05:57 PM
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For me the single largest indicator that RP is true is the fact that most of the naturally successful guys I know (i.e. dudes who've been spinning plates for years) employ RP strategy without even knowing what RP was. I showed some sidebar stuff to my friend who RP would consider about as "naturally alpha" as the come (dude bangs an absolutely absurd amount of females) and his reaction was "yea that's some truth right there". This cannot all be one massive coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 05:41 PM
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I wouldn't compare those to RP. RP transcends dating and pick up. Its about taking ownership of your life. Its the difference between planting a garden and growing your own food as compared to going to the grocery store and picking up something someone else made.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 05:40 PM
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without acting like an awful person I see no flaw in this mass generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 05:37 PM
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This. Even if in the present time the answer to OP's question is no at some point in the near future we will reach a critical mass and the answer will inevitably be yes or more precisely - Tinder alone isn't a disqualifier. There are far better ways to vet this girl than by what apps she uses.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/15 05:02 PM
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I haven't seen him take a position that could be considered sexist and if enforcing border laws is racist then sign me up for the KKK.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 04:10 AM
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Neither do I. But let's face it, if you openly support the man you will be labeled as racist/sexist. The left (progs/fems) is the new moral police. They've taken the place of the religious right in that regard. Horseshoe theory in full effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:38 AM
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So you have your world view and I have mine. But if I don't conform to your view I'm misogynistic. For example I was talking politics with a girl the other day. I mentioned I liked what Trump had to say - for example raising taxes on capital gains and lowering them for income tax. She looked at me as if I said I was voting for Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:27 AM
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Perhaps in the short/medium term. But in the long-run they will win simply by out-breeding the opposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:31 PM
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It's irony at its finest. The various strands of the progressive agenda are all colliding and its being exposed for the fraud that it is. Perhaps they will have to finally confront their cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:16 PM
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BP is definitely a sexual strategy it just so happens to occur on the societal level. Its the traditional religious strategy. Create a hierarchy that subjugates the women (God --> Man --> Woman) Now that you've indoctrinated the women ration them off to the men (arranged marriage) Now that the men have a predetermined path to obtaining a woman they are now incentivized to work hard in order to obtain the best one possible (BP) The BP strategy works when you subjugate the women and control their …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:06 PM
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That's one aspect people don't seem to fully grasp. Religion is the antithesis of RP. The purpose of religion was to enshrine marriage 1.0 i.e. BP. Now that we have dismantled that societal paradigm RP has risen from the ashes as a replacement strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:02 PM
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I think you're on to something. After we complete the demilitarization we can open up our borders to those poor refugees. Certainly nothing bad will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:55 PM
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By "aren't misogynist arseholes" do you actually mean "conform to my worldview". So much for healthy compromise. Seems if you want to date a western woman these days you either bend over backwards to please her or you get attacked on a moral basis. Where do I sign up for this lovely treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:25 PM
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That's pussy power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:20 PM
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So what's your definition of easier? Don't buy a cheap appliance? You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:46 PM
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It's not a universal truth that men cum more easily than women. I've slept with girls who I could get off in under a minute and with only a few fingers. Meanwhile I can go hours if I want. If $40 is a lot you are either poor or a child. In any even its the exact same thing: fleshlight, vibrator, sex doll, prostitute. Means to an end. I'll tell you all of those are cheaper than the amount of money I spend taking the average girl out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:33 PM
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Life is whatever you want it to be but make no mistake the common denominator, by definition, is sex.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 07:18 PM
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Guys can get the full on same stimulation with their hand in a basic sense. Allow me to pause and laugh. How the fuck would you know that? Let me tell you something - there is a HUGE difference between orgasiming when you are just lying there and masturbating as compared to thrusting yourself into something. You're a hypocrite and you should feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 05:30 PM
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It's just... Excessive, if you're having sex on the regular I don't see why a [vibrator] wojld [sic] be appealing. Its just something that is weird and I don't think I am an asshole for saying that. It's just weird. I would be confused why [s]he was using a [vibrator] instead of having sex with a very wiling human []man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:54 PM
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Tell them you self-identify as a woman.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 04:37 PM
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This line of thinking is pervasive throughout the social justice crowd: Men are having a bad time? It's the man's fault. Women are having a bad time? It's the man's fault. Blacks commit more crimes? Blame the white man. Transgender commit suicide at a higher rate? Blame the white man. Women make less money? Blame the white man. Woman gets drunk and sucks some rando's cock? Blame the white man. In conclusions: kill the white man
/r/MensRights16/09/15 04:32 PM
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Its because the latter requires an actual change in behavior while the former is just reading an internet forum i.e. shit we already do. One of my favorite posts on TRP was from a long while back where the guy basically wrote a thank you letter to the sub for being so helpful and showing him a path to accomplishing a lot of his goals (which he had already achieved a few). He concluded by saying he thought that ultimately he had to abandon the sub and continue on alone and finished off the post b…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 04:05 PM
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Pretty much - you don't want to come off as thirsty - demonstrates low value yada yada. That being said, I tend to loathe these RP terms for the same reasons as pointed out in the OP. Over time these buzzwords get taken out of context and have their meanings distorted. Its far more useful to internalize concepts and articulate them in your own words.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 03:38 PM
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Its not even about being a person in 1% or even 10%. Its about having the attitude that demonstrates that you couldn't care less what category someone places you. Instead, you're too busy being your awesome self to even contemplate caring about how someone might judge you. That's the essence of not giving a fuck. Combine that with a positive outlook and that's the only frame you need.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 02:40 PM
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Its strange that you continue to refer to personal experiences as "feels".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:14 PM
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Good assumptions but no. I just saw an article and it reminded me of you. Lol This study was regarding social science or as I called it social commentary. Remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 02:03 PM
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http://www.sciencemag.org/content/349/6251/aac4716 Well well well. Isn't that shocking!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 05:31 AM
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Solid post - you articulated the idea of disposability quite well. You could honestly branch this off into a number of topics: (1) the halo effect being the byproduct/other side of the coin of male disposability, (2) how hitting the wall causes a woman to become disposable and how that might be related to the evolutionary underpinnings of disposability (i.e. fertility). The thing I still struggle with is fitting into a world that doesn't care about you. Part of me just wants to become more reclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:02 PM
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I'm sorry but I just can't help but laugh. You're projecting here pretty hardcore. I'll give you some, limited credit. You do a good job of twisting words and talking around inconvenient facts. That doesn't change the facts though. Still trying to figure out what your horse is in this race.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:18 PM
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You have an interesting definition of proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:08 PM
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Good. In that case you should be well aware how its relevant to what we've been talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:49 PM
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Did you read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:31 PM
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Man you're a joke. I scrolled down to mammals and low and behold there was a section on humans. Funny how that works. More reading for you to do from the same article: The average differences between males and females include all the features related to reproduction. Sexual dimorphism among humans includes differentiation among gonads, internal genitals, external genitals, breasts, muscle mass, height, the endocrine (hormonal) systems and their physiological and behavioral effects. According to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:19 PM
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From your own article: Just like in birds, the brains of many mammals, including humans, are significantlydifferent for males and females of thespecies.[64] Both genes and hormones affect the formation of many animal brains before "birth" (or hatching), and also behaviour of adult individuals. Hormones significantly affect human brain formation, and also brain development at puberty. It's almost like you have a predetermined point of view. Whodathunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:07 PM
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Funny you should mention babies. Have you heard of this debate we've been having about abortion? Morality is most certain consensus driven. Imagine an alternate universe where the Nazis succeeded. Would the morality differ? Because there is no such thing as a universal right and wrong. As I've been saying its all subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 09:54 PM
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How can you possibly believe morality is objective when there is no one on earth that can agree as to what is moral and what is immoral. Any given act can and will simultaneously be viewed as moral and immoral by different people. You disparage them based on your sense of right and wrong. Its subjective. That doesn't mean its nonexistent or not actionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 09:03 PM
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New members are not "they". Obviously each subscriber doesn't speak for the mods. Can't comment on your particulars without knowing you. I'll say one of the most naturally "alpha" men I know is a self-proclaimed "feminist". That being said his actions are basically in lock-step with what RP would describe as to what to do (e.g. abundance mentality; frame holding; aggressiveness; etc.). It also helps that he's over 6ft and from multiple female accounts "well hung". In other words he fits the AF s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 08:22 PM
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And now you understand why TRP is not a cult. They aren't interested in attracting members. They aren't interested in convincing you. And as I said before, they aren't interested in a debate. If you take issue with them go ahead spend your resources disproving them. I'll be happy to review the fruits of your labor. So you're position is there are no instincts that women share among one another? Why are humans such a special species that they do not adhere to this? Its funny you keep accusing me …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 08:01 PM
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You're suggesting TRP spend time and money proving itself to doubters? Why exactly? The same applies for men. I'm sure you can come up with a number of generalities about men. This applies to any species on the planet. Humans are not as special as you seem to believe. So your position is: "your (my) position is so stupid I won't even bother engaging you in discussion". If that's the case you might as well just stop posting here. What is there to gain on your end?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 07:40 PM
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At this point we've still not had a useful exchange that didn't boil down to you insulting me. You've provided no substance here. Accordingly, this will be my last post. Considering I never used the word "cult" once I fail to see how I've been pushing the anti-cult view. Let's define the word cult: "a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange." I suppose if we expand beyond "religious beliefs" (notwithstanding your constant comparison to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 07:27 PM
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Anecdotal evidence has been used for many positive things. In fact, anecdotal evidence is the only evidence you, I, or anyone else, could use to understand someone's nature (personality, tendencies, etc.). Is this also flawed? Should I just assume I know nothing about anyone I know on a personal level because that knowledge is purely anecdotal. At some point your position becomes untenable and downright silly. Right. So if TRP is a toolbox then trial and error is a great way to learn how to use …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 06:50 PM
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I already answered that question. Is it your opinion that anecdotal evidence is not evidence? Are you familiar with scientific method? How about trial and error? Do you believe scientific results can be flawed? Do you believe scientists ever have a biased agenda in doing research and studies? How would one go about quantifying, in a scientific manner that holds to your standards, the type of information discussed on TRP? If the answer to the previous question is that its not feasible, by what me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 06:21 PM
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Let's not conflate things. I say you don't understand TRP because based on this conversation you've misstated some very basic things. That being said, I'm not saying everyone has to agree. How about you link me to your "best" comment. I'd love to read it. I already answered your question but I'll expound: I don't need to be an authority figure. I want to be an authority figure. I want to have enough expertise that people view me as an authority primarily because that's how people in my professio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 06:05 PM
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Its not mysticism to say that human interactions transcend the spoken word. I didn't think that would be controversial. As I said, some call it a strategy but its better to call it a toolbox. That's because a strategy implies the goals are already set whereas we all know each person's goals vary. You can apply TRP concepts for both obtaining a short-term situation and keeping a long-term situation. You can also apply them to your career and basically any other social interaction. Here's somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:48 PM
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Not really. Math is math. Its an inherently objective field. A better example is "we all have our own taste in art". Would you disagree with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:40 PM
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I assume you're referring to this post. That's not what he said at all. Instead he asks a question: "what is the model society? A society where virginity is upheld on a pedestal but sexual frustration boils? Or a society in which premarital sex is open but with all the problems that follow?" Followed by: "how do I know if a woman is a slut or not? How do I know if she is long term material or not? Does she have to be a virgin? Or does she have to had sex in the context of relationships with prev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:23 PM
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Frame is just one of those things that exists regardless of whether you want it to or not. When people interact the dominant frame is the one that determines the norms of the interaction. Ever sit in a classroom? You adopted the professor's frame. Ever been pulled over by a cop? You adopted the cop's frame. Ever had a job? You adopted your employer's frame. TRP applies this concept to your dating life. Frame is not about imposing a narrative. Its much bigger than that and it transcends the spoke…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:14 PM
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Objective morality doesn't exist. Obviously we all have our own subjective morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:06 PM
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Holding frame is certainly not gas-lighting. Its really just about staying true to yourself and not bending to other people. In a sense its a gas-lighting defense. TRP is certainly not "built around teaching emotional abuse". That being said, certain tactics discussed in the sub could be employed in an emotionally abusive manner. Certainly there is a contradiction. When your first post claims you have given logical responses yet the following posts are nothing but petty insults there is a discon…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 04:47 PM
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I never gave you advice or told you to adopt a way of thinking. Rather, I merely suggested a good starting point for understanding TRP. You obviously have a bone to pick with TRP. Thus it would make sense to actually understand that which you hate. Keep in mind the concept of "frame" predates TRP by centuries/millennial even if the term itself isn't used in common parlance. I would go far as to say that one cannot blend into a social setting without having a basic, internalized concept of what i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 04:16 PM
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was just what she needed to do to be happy Man, that line has been used to justify just about everything short of nuclear war.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 03:55 PM
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Yea I fixed that sentence it didn't get written correctly the first time. Feel free to respond again. Why are you proselytizing right now? I didn't know explaining an ideology was tantamount to "proselytizing". Are you afraid of what you might learn?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 03:41 PM
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After a while, one learns that trying to reason with zealots is a waste of time, and we move on to just laughing and shaking our heads. That cuts both ways. The thing about Non-RPers is that they don't understand the levels of importance when it comes to RP concepts. My suggestion is to start by understanding what frame is and how it effects power dynamics. That understanding is critical for viewing life from the appropriate lens. Once you have that down you'll have an easier time understanding …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 03:36 PM
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Except we permit and even celebrate killing all of the time. One man's killer is another man's hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 03:02 PM
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This is something you don't need research for. Have you ever been in a LTR with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:57 AM
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That's not what you said before but even then you don't know for certain they aren't correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:56 AM
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Not missing it. You're just making a bad point and failing to distinguish. On one hand there are the laws of RP (AF/BB; hypergamy; etc.) these are inherently amoral. On the other hand are the tactics one can employ in order to achieve success given those laws: (holding frame; dread game; abundance mentality). These are once again amoral as they could be applied morally or immorally. In closing there is no inherently moral or immorality when it comes to RP. Instead they could be used for good (tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 02:03 AM
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Do you think someone wakes up today and says: "I will apply the law of gravity!" No. Just like a woman doesn't wake up and say: "I will apply the law of hypergamy!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 01:58 AM
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That in and of itself is an assumption: "I assume X and Y to both be false" PS: I see all your comments are downvoted. You can safely assume that wasn't me ;) not my style.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 01:55 AM
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That's nonsense. No one applies the laws. They just exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 01:38 AM
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If I'm trying to ascertain the laws of physics am I going to bring in moral considerations?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:24 PM
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In this context they should be ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:29 PM
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Therefore I am assuming it isn't Y You said it yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:28 PM
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If we can't agree on something then its probably subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:28 PM
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Because Stone Cold said so?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 08:23 PM
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Its not hard to understand. I'm not sure how else to explain it to you. They made assumptions and so did you. I'm not worried about counter examples. I'm worried about my own experience. As long as what I'm directly perceiving comports with my understanding of the underlying causes then that's all I need. Its relevant to the extent that it should show you that whether or not they do that has no relation to the truth underlying the theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 08:17 PM
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And once again you're proving the position. All of your comments are inflammatory in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 08:03 PM
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Pretty much everything is questionable at best. If it wasn't questionable we'd just take it for granted and wouldn't be talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 08:01 PM
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No? I'm just observing that RP makes assumptions in such cases. And inherently you are assuming those assumptions are not true. Thus you are making your own assumptions. On its face it could go either way. I have no idea who they were talking about. But I'll keep an eye out for the next time RP does it and make a thread here. As in create your own. For example: Anna Nichole Smith and that rich old guy she was shagging back in the day. Any other examples you want to put forth? Yes, exactly. The p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:32 PM
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The difference being the cause and effect are far more attenuated in the religious miracle examples as compared to the RP examples. woman might get a flat tire, and the delay prevented her from being in a building when it caught fire. Maybe she attributes this to God saving her. Attenuated. man and woman get in argument; man does not fall into the woman's emotional frame and instead stays rock steady; woman crumbles without having the emotional energy to feed off of and man wins argument Not att…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:25 PM
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As you can see you've put your own assumptions in play. Let's put some names to those disabled dudes and young women. Maybe then you'll see that the stereotypes are pretty accurate in most cases. I'll let you pick the names. RP functions like that because its not a debate sub. As far as they are concerned they already figured out how things are. Its sole purpose is determining the best strategy within those parameters. Don't be surprised that they aren't interested in discussing the parameters. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:22 PM
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Now you're just being lazy. By that logic, all of science is just like religion its its based on a "group of articles". Hint: "group of articles" is far too general to have any meaning by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:12 PM
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Point being women are naturally drawn to the traits discussed on RP. This in and of itself proves the entire theory to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:12 PM
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I think most women are happier to get casually fucked by a guy she perceives as high value then to be in a relationship with a guy she views as beneath her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:07 PM
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That has nothing to do with the tenants of the ideology. Religious tenants - derived solely from a single book RP tenants - derived from a sphere of experiences Do you not see the fundamental difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:06 PM
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It could, if you grease it up with enough assumptions. But by assuming your conclusion, you don't ever allow yourself to see evidence to the contrary. The point was you made your own assumptions. Without assumptions it could go either way. TRP is wrong about women's nature because it very rarely fits any woman I meet. You say that and its undoubtedly your perception but then why does it work? Would you at least entertain the possibility that your perception of these women is wrong? you don't eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:03 PM
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Do you ever see anyone say men are more emotional than women? Why is that the case? Women feed off emotion. It gives them energy. It's the reason they exist. If we can't agree on this there's really no point in talking further.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:01 PM
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Do you see how this comment reinforces my prior statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:54 PM
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When I said "successful," I assumed it was understood that I meant for both partners. As was my implication - see below for further detail. So you think that no man has ever had a successful (meaning happy, fulfilling, etc. FOR HIM) relationship without -- knowingly or unknowingly -- employing RP tactics? Ever? Really? That question can easily be flipped onto you: do you think there are any women dating RP men who are satisfied?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:54 PM
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You say swapping anecdotes as if that is somehow a negative. Dread game could be viewed as abusive but in the long run if it makes her more attracted to you and thus more secure in the relationship isn't it a net positive? I'm a bit uncertain: is your position that evolutionary psychology is false?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:52 PM
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It might be an improvement for some people. If you have a 1% chance of getting a woman, that is still a lot better than the 0% locked in your room. That doesn't mean the claims they make are true though. This shit goes way deeper than just picking up a girl. If you don't think I have valuable things to say, why are you talking with me? False equivalent. I think it certainly could. There's many religions out in the world, all of which have portions that claim it'll change your life. They can't al…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:50 PM
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I'll preface this comment by saying I believe virtually every man begins to innately adopt RP beliefs as he gains more experience. TRP is just cheat codes for what would normally take decades of relationship experience. I'm not the person you're replying to but I'm going to jump in here. I can't speak for all of BP but I myself know all too well "the ease by which a man could manipulate" me, having been an abuse victim for three years. The fact that you guys have learned how to bend vulnerable w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:44 PM
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It's delusion. Again, how it is delusion if it works? I don't expect you to have the proper perspective. As a woman you obviously have a vested interest in believing RP to be false for a variety of reasons: chiefly the implications it has on (1) the value of your own existence and (2) the ease by which a man could manipulate you given the right strategy. I have tons of first hand experience with this shit. It just works. That's my evidence. Where's yours? Do you think RP would exist if it didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:13 PM
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Your flaw is assuming that is even a counter example to begin with. As you've shown that situation could easily fit inside the RP paradigm. You're actually subconsciously superimposing your own details to reach the conclusion that the example is a counterexample in the first place. Its rather ironic. They have anger directed towards women and seek to preserve this worldview so as to preserve their validation of these feelings. If TRP's view on women's nature is all junk, it makes them just a bun…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:09 PM
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All I've seen is perceived moral superiority, emotional responses, and petty insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:04 PM
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What do you say to the people who have achieved success applying RP principals? Is their success phony as well? To me the single best indicator that RP works is observing men who were always naturally good with women - I can only speak on my experience but out of the dozens of men I know who would be defined as "natural alphas" they all seem to innately employ RP tactics. Why is that the case? How do you explain that? There is definitely a point in discussing common ground. You start at the comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:02 PM
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many of its claims are not falsifiable They aren't falsifiable in the clinical sense. But anyone with any sort of social experience can tell you that "women are more emotional" Will you honestly debate this? At some point you just have to come down to reality. The matrix analogy by which the sub is defined (the "red pill") implies that its users have escaped the "matrix" (ideology - be it feministic or what have you) and now exist in a state of zion (free from ideology). Not at all. It denotes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:00 PM
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Disagreeing with the world-view is basically a conclusion. I'm saying I'm having trouble finding someone providing a logical basis for that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 05:51 PM
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bitter men doing stupid shit If it works why is it stupid? TRP isn't some deep, complex view. As with any good system.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 05:10 PM
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Another cop out. You should be able to state a response succinctly with a few sentences. Its really not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 05:08 PM
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As someone who is a perpetual skeptic I would particularly enjoy a well-articulated, logic-based counterargument. It just seems there isn't one to be found - even on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 05:06 PM
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That's reasonable but its also curious that neither on PPD or anywhere else for that matter do you ever see a logical refutation of RP. Its always a moral argument. The problem is, objectively speaking, morality doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 05:05 PM
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I'm of the mindset that if you are fence-sitting, you are probably going to go full red. Why do you believe that to be the case? TRP is so absurd there's no point in rationally debating it. Why do you believe that to be the case? Is there no aspect of TRP that you agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 05:02 PM
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You kind of touched on it yourself but your entire post begs the question: why did those social expectations originate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 03:42 PM
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What a well thought out and insightful comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 02:57 PM
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You had me until the unravelling part. You're missing two key points. First, assuming a person creates a small-scale idea, if it has any long term value a big corp is going to come make them a godfather buyout offer. Thereafter it will be assimilated and used globally. Second, if no buyout occurs than the small idea is likely to grow into something huge based on the nature of a global economy. In the end we are accomplishing more with less and that continues to be the case. There's no doomsday i…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/15 09:38 PM
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His point is women want to fuck men who have those qualities you say are ingrained by society. This leads a rational person to question whether it's society of biology driving that preference. I would posit society is a product of biology - hence the answer is both.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:47 PM
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definitely be a hypocrite You can't compare it really. The act of taking a dick inside of you is just much more personal/intimate than putting your dick in a hole. Think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 08:04 AM
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I'm glad you've admitted that. Your comment has the primary effect of invalidating the entire concept of "slut shaming" as something of legitimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 08:02 AM
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Not sure what "living as an adult" means but that's a good attitude. Just giving you my experience. Edit: decided to do some reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:25 AM
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Wouldn't they all say that early on? I'll tell you this. The person I am now as compared to when I was at 23 is totally different. Be prepared for things to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 06:55 AM
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But what's the difference really? If they don't want to be with someone there's a reason. Apparently, you take issue with articulating that reason. I'm puzzled.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 06:12 AM
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I'm not saying female's don't use game. In fact I would say their game is much more advanced and they are far better at game then we are. What I am saying is that female game is not RP tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:57 AM
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no longer matters as I'm married now. That's adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:55 AM
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How old are you if you don't mind me asking. You might find its easier to rope guys in their early 20s and teens whereas the older you (and they) get the harder it will be to continue being a sex worker and attract high quality men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:40 AM
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Workout
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:38 AM
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Its like trying to hunt deer with a fishing pole. Sure its theoretically possible. It's just not sensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:29 AM
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Don't take this the wrong way but there's maybe 2-3 guys that I know on a personal level that would be comfortable in a LTR with a sex worker (a lot more would smash but that's a different story). Out of those 2-3 guys 100% of them are sleaze-balls and/or ex-cons. Try to think of it like this: would you want to date a 35 year old virgin? The same works in reverse with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:27 AM
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You have to have the anger phase. Its impossible to be plugged in and then wake up and not be angry. You don't want to ignore that anger or ostracized it. Rather you should use for motivation and as a reminder. Learning to control the anger and resolve it will do you wonders for the rest of your life. One thing I will agree on is that at a certain point RP has diminishing returns. Once you've internalized the concepts there's not much left to it. Inherent to the entire ideology is the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:23 AM
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Looking good. But even then when you get more specific what looks "good" obviously is different between men and women. You can always make things sound similar if you get general enough (i.e. make good conversation; be interesting). But once you get specific you'll see those things are different. That being said there are corollaries: (height/weigh; dick size/curves; sexually experienced/innocent; etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:54 AM
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This has come up a number of times when talking with various groups of friends. I'd say maybe 1 in 20 would say that it doesn't matter. Its an insecurity that we seem to innately carry. We don't want a promiscuous girl and we want to be the best sex she ever had. Its not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:51 AM
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My mistake. I was responding to the other thread made by the same OP. My answer for this thread would be that depending on what you're hunting you will use different strategies. A fisherman does not use the same tactics as a deer hunter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:48 AM
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Why would she know he's "into self improvement"? At the end of the day this is a silly topic. Girls run all sorts of game - the average girl is a master at game compared to a guy. Guys are always going to be playing catchup in this regard. But that being said a female's game is inherently different as compared to our game. They are hunting different prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:44 AM
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ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:39 AM
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Its a pointless question with no answer other than "cuz evolution". Why are women attracted to tall guys and guys with a lot of experience? Why are men attracted to girls with big asses and breasts? Why do men and women want someone with a cute face?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:38 AM
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Of course that happens but it happens in an overtly sexual way. Glances. Giggling. The fuck you eyes. Putting her hands on me. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:32 AM
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What you're seeing is that he's in the relationship in spite of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:30 AM
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RP tactics work on women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:30 AM
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She's saying it matters to guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:28 AM
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It really all depends on the lifestyle you want to live, the job you want to have, and the things that are important to you. Its definitely not for everyone.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/15 06:47 PM
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That's weird because I've tested incognito and it definitely altered my search results.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 02:23 AM
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Really the sad part is this is an above average conversation with these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:52 PM
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It actually does work like that. Source: multiple web devs. Deleting your current search history may not work. You'd need to delete your account search history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:33 PM
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You've seen feminists actively encourage women to be mothers? I've only seen the opposite - work on that career!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 10:21 PM
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You say that but I've seen the opposite. There's no encouragement for those traditional roles. If anything disdain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 10:08 PM
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So do you actually want to respond to the content of my post? Or are you not done making ad hominem attacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:44 PM
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You realize knowledge is not some binary thing right? You don't have to be an expert at something or even be able to do it yourself to obtain an understanding of it. For example, I've never played a minute of professional football in my life but I have a pretty damn good understanding of the sport. How did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:35 PM
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Obviously I'm not sitting in sessions. But what I can say is it also really depends on the type of therapist. My ex was dealing with adults who are all sorts of dysfunctional. Her man goal was to just get them to be able to live a basic life without going ape shit. My uncle deals with kids - his view was once your adult you're hopelessly set in your ways. Sadly my ex pretty much agreed. My view is that therapy is really about self-improvement and that can only come from within. I look down on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:30 PM
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Quoting my response to the other guy who called me out: I dated a therapist for a few years and had endless conversations about the methodology; my uncle has been a therapist for three decades; my cousin has been a therapist for about 10 years. I've also read extensively about therapy and things like alcoholics anonymous. Safe to say a common thread for the most part is the victim paradigm. You don't need to be a therapist to understand how the profession works. Maybe these insecure children don…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:21 PM
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Let's see . . . I dated a therapist for a few years and had endless conversations about the methodology; my uncle has been a therapist for three decades; my cousin has been a therapist for about 10 years. I've also read extensively about therapy and things like alcoholics anonymous. Safe to say a common thread for the most part is the victim paradigm. You don't need to be a therapist to understand how the profession works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:20 PM
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From my experience all of therapy does come from a feminist frame. I say that because from what I've seen its just a process of turning the client into a victim so that they can remove blame/agency and separate themselves from their issues. In any event I don't really see how its relevant whether TRP would cause someone to commit suicide. The only thing of interest should be truth seeking - feelings be damned. Maybe you should be asking why the kid is so coddled and fragile to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:10 PM
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Dear Sally, you want the D? -Fucktard
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:07 PM
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That sounds very Orwellian to me: "your life experiences are LIES; listen to us people in the white coats; we have the TRUTH"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:04 PM
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See that's the thing. The attacks on RP come from an emotional/moral frame. You rarely see a well thought out logical response. Instead its more like "you guys are literally the spawn of Satan, burn in hell." Just scroll through this comment thread. You have rational responses on one side and a bunch of bs on the other: "LOL! That's ironic!"; "This extremely lazy reasoning."; "You guys really bring nothing to the table. Just anecdotes and self-reports. (i.e. real life experience)" It just a bunc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:00 PM
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Dear Sally, if you're gonna talk shit you best well be able to take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 08:53 PM
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You're getting it backwards. His anger comes from the fact that you're not comporting to set of logic. Whereas the reverse is happening with the girl in that she's having an emotional response to something and then coming up with the logic on the back end if at all. Both sexes can be emotional and logical no doubt. The thing is that in my experience, girls start with emotion whereas men start with logic. If you offend the man's logic he may get emotional. Whereas the girl may try to use logic to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 08:48 PM
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Meh. I would say it has more to do with the fact that we've been shit talking each other since before we knew what a hard-on was. If you don't know how to take it and dish it as a boy you will be an outcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 07:45 PM
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As to your link - that's why you search using an incognito tab. Here's the top hitters: http://www.liveyourdream.org/ http://now.org/ http://www.rainbo.org/organizations-fight-for-womens-rights/ Every single page is primarily about work (7 instances) and abortion (4 hits and two infographics). In fact the only mention of the word "family" or "mother" on any of these pages is in connection with "family courts". Oh the irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 07:20 PM
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What makes you think I'm trying to influence the path you take?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 06:54 PM
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Did you do the google search? Let me know what you find. When I say "them" I mean an actual organization not some rando celebrity. And even then who else is the bigger poster child for the "strong women I don't need shit from you" trope than her? PS: just because I disagree with you doesn't make me ignorant but believing that is ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 06:53 PM
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Its unfortunate you've chosen to not respond to my comments. Does reality frighten you to that degree? Thanks I guess, but it looks like I'll be searching for an import model. I'm thinking from some radically oppressed country in the middle east.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:33 PM
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Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:31 PM
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Sights set well above $100k. But I'm an attorney so we call $100k peasant pay in my circles. My point is that in the aggregate deviating from defined gender roles decreases the happiness for women (and men to a lesser degree). As feminism continues to educate women to adopt a male frame, we see female's happiness continue to decline. Tangentially this shows that women were in a state of privilege all along - a state that ironically feminism destroyed. Now that they don't want that privilege and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:29 PM
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See that's just bullshit. In truth you see them promoting baby killing (abortion) and not baby living (motherhood). Don't lie to yourself. Google "women's groups" and see what comes up. I saw tons of content about abortion and working. I saw nothing about motherhood. I don't give a shit about what some singer did. That is irrelevant. And before you say anything stupid let me tell you I am pro baby killing (pro-abortion/pro-choice/whatever other euphemism you wish to assign).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:23 PM
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So if they promote one thing exclusively what do you think relatively speaking will happen to the perceived value of the unpromoted path?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:21 PM
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That was kind of my point tho - adding women to the workforce made it nearly impossible to be a sole provider. I already have my sights set on a lot more than $100k. But my other goal is to start setting up streams of revenue online that my SO can manage from home. Theoretically I think I'd be an amazing SAHD. Practically, I don't think I could find a girl willing to pay for me like that - this feeds into my response to your "slave" comments. See - I just wouldn't be comfortable with a stranger …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:19 PM
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Don't think what I'm saying is some full proof method to happiness. Life is never that simple. She's a wreck because her husband has failed a provider. Unfortunately, if you look up statistics (GDP v. workers) you'll see that we've added 100 million jobs (women) to the economy and yet inflation adjusted GDP per person in the country has not changed. That means we have twice as many workers splitting the same pie. Truly depressing to think about. If you understand demand side economics you'll und…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:57 PM
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You say that, but what does the movement truly encourage? "I am woman I am strong" "I don't need a man" Do you ever see them promoting motherhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:55 PM
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You say that, but what does the movement truly encourage? "I am woman I am strong" "I don't need a man" Do you ever see them promoting motherhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:55 PM
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I'm not making assumptions I'm making observations and having conversations. You don't have a biological need to cater to a man - rather a man has a biological need to cater to women - women have a biological need to receive such care from a man. The thing is there is no such equality. Men and women are just different, two different things are inherently unequal. This false notion of equality is at the root of a lot of our current problems. I'm honestly flabbergasted you consider such an arrange…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:51 PM
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It makes life simpler for both of us. As men, we have an innate biological imperative to provide for women. The beauty of this imperative is that if we have a bad ass woman who is down for the cause our energy can unite and be greater that the whole. We get the joy of providing for you (fulfilling our imperative) and you get the joy of receiving our provisions (fulfilling your imperative). Both of us will be happier. The only thing you need to do is take care of my sexual needs and things will b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:30 PM
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I urge you to use some common sense and critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:39 PM
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That was a bit of hyperbole but we (and the rest of the west) are in a steady decline. One big problem with feminism (and the special snowflake movement in general), in my view, is that pre-feminism (when we had well defined gender roles) the expectations of husband and wife were very well known. Now that we don't have set expectations, everyone has unrealistic expectations. Life is much simpler when we both know what we're suppose to bring to the table. And life is much better when what we're b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:37 PM
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Yup. Its a destructive feedback loop that ends in a downward spiral of zero birth rates. We will be replaced by those cultures that continue to value the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:10 PM
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You should go to a harpy conference and report back. My guess is you will be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:52 PM
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Honest to God the only ones I know who aren't like that are girls not born in the US and who have not become Americanized. They seem to actually appreciate men more - probably because they haven't been fed the bullshit line "you're a strong woman and you don't need men for shit" since the day they were born.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:51 PM
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Let's not pretend women don't complain 10x as much as men. Its downright demoralizing to be around - sucks the life out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:44 PM
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I'd love to see the reaction if you told a conference of feminists you want to be a housewife who spends your life making your husband happy. Let's not pretend they don't cast shame on the feminine role. Its poisonous to the individual and destructive to society to think like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:40 PM
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Simply stated: the true nature of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:38 PM
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Looks like /u/TheGreasyPole just shit on that theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:37 PM
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It seems rather obvious that pregnant women or women with many small children won't have time or the physical ability to do very much labor. With the advent of modern technology I think we forget how integral the female body is to raising a small child. It is literally the kids apartment building until he grows enough to live in the wild and thereafter its his sole food source for the first few years of his existence. PS. Where's your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:04 PM
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We may not consciously think like that but at the end of the day any relationship (business, personal, romantic) boils down to a transaction. Its the same as Briffault's Law.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:57 PM
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Women use men as emotional tampons. Many of them are a constant drain on positivity and energy. They are just generally very needy and demanding of my time. The more serious the relationship gets the more needy and demanding they become. A man does not require or want that level of emotional support. Obviously, we need to get something in return to counterbalance this. My preference is to receive positive feminine energy in exchange for my male energy but all too often women have jettisoned thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:23 PM
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Its a common misconception to say men were the hunters and women the gatherers. The reality is the men hunted and gathered while the women bore and raised children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:20 PM
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Definitely agree with that. I'm a type B2. I'm a pretty dominant personality type bordering on abrasive if I don't keep myself in check but at the same time I want my woman to be a strong personality and keep me on my toes. That being said I never asserted that one person's trait would infer the trait they want from the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 02:56 AM
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That's what I've been trying to say this whole time. Those are inseparable ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:59 AM
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So submissive can be both a trait and a role?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:36 AM
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To be attracted to a person you need to respect them on some level. When I asked for a distinction I meant traits vs. roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 11:08 PM
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That makes two of us
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 11:06 PM
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One is talking about what traits they want in their partner. The other is talking about what role they want in a relationship. Which one is which? Isn't that just semantics? You can respect someone for their traits and the role they play. These are not discreet concepts. I'm attractive to guys with an ottermode/skinny fat build. That doesn't mean I don't respect guys with a muscular build. What I respect in a person isn't really the same as what I'm attracted to. You're mixing things up. In orde…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 08:41 PM
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And that's a different issue in my opinion. Why? That's more what the other person wants in their mate That's just another way of saying "what type of person do they respect". For the most part, women respect strong confident men. Again, for the most part, men don't respect the same in a woman - "bossy/angry bitch".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 08:25 PM
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What's you're point? You realize when you're in the prisoners dilemma the more cooperative your opponent is the more incentive you have to betray them right? Analogizing to your statements "cooperation" means adopting a passive dating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:57 PM
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But its not a whole different issue. I really don't see how you can say that. You originally wrote: Some of the most fundamental things we can see in most of these subcultures is respect. Both parties want to be respected, and feel like their opinions matter to the other. People want to be valued, that is to feel like their SO cares for them, and wants them to remain in the relationship. I totally agree. But for that statement to have any meaning we have to answer the question: what do men/women…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:56 PM
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What do you think will happen if Men stop making the first move Other men will have more options. In my experience. Most. But I rarely ever made the first move. Only I'm asking generally and not in your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:44 PM
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That is a pretty shallow interpretation of "self" (i.e. you are a just a list of commercial/consumer interests). Who you really are is always changing and growing. From the day you're born to the day you die. Layered on top of that is the fact that your "self", as far as other people are concerned, is just their perception of what your "self" really is (and by really is I simply mean your perception of your "self"). RP doesn't say to stop "being yourself". Rather, it says to become conscious of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:30 PM
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There is no such thing as "be yourself". Rather, you actively created yourself. It's your choice as to what you want to create but rest assured over time your decisions will irrevocably change who you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:26 PM
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What % of relationships do you believe start with the women making the first move? This may have worked for you but this is terrible advice for the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:23 PM
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If you granulate things down very specifically then that's the case. Nevertheless, there are general qualities that most men/women look for in one another. Certain aspects that men look for women look for the opposite. That's not to say there are no shared qualities. Its a Venn diagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:18 PM
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both parties want to be respected Very true. But the key to remember is men and women respect different things. That difference is the root cause of most if not all of the "dating double standards" we hear about (e.g. player vs. slut dichotomy).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:08 PM
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I agree with this but also write to add I believe you will see women tend toward more homosexual relationships to obtain the level of companionship and support they crave once more and more men check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:47 PM
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I was in this same position as you. I just viewed "saving" as not taking out any more loans than I needed. Biggest/easiest immediate change you can make is eating at home as much as possible. This alone with save you thousands a year. After that its just a question of how many of the luxuries of life are you willing to sacrifice to decrease that debt burden. Clothes? Cars? Entertainment? For me it was cutting out going to the move theater, cancelling my cable TV, and wearing more clothes from th…
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 09:24 PM
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Its a brilliant tactic. Argue the facts when they are helpful but when they don't fit the narrative explain why they are skewed. And its done in such a way that you can either keep silent or be viewed as a rape apologist.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 08:47 PM
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Answer: you assure (not explicitly or directly but through your conduct) that they can rest assured that you are an adequate leader. At the end of the day we're pack animals.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 08:29 PM
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Its a byproduct of the 1960s social revolution coupled with said revolution achieving all of its original goals. All of these groups were used to complaining and feeling important - you weren't going to simply put the cultural genie back in the bottle. As time progressed the complaints became increasingly more irrational and the FOIC was born.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 04:14 PM
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the gynocracy is impossible to satisfy because it isn't actually interested in being appeased Its the disease of more. They will bitch and complain about something but if they ever get their demands they will just find something new to bitch about. In reality what they want to do is bitch and complain - its the common denominator - its both beginning and end.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 03:54 PM
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resorting to casual and spurious accusations of misogyny, racism, and homophobia. The goal is to manipulate the boundaries of acceptable speech by smearing their targets with socially unacceptable labels and to write off speakers they don’t like as bigots so they don’t have to engage with the speaker’s arguments. I went to a fairly liberal law school and I'm remiss to report these tactics are all too successful. Any sort of political discussion became an echo chamber with the liberals/SJWers see…
/r/TheRedPill26/08/15 10:36 PM
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You can't change nature. Yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:53 AM
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What % would you assign nature vs. nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:49 AM
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You're right. Women are responsible for all of the technological advancements...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:16 PM
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Naive. Societies are built on power. Power is built on war. Men wage war.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 10:08 PM
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Why then in your view was it man who built society? Certainly if it was just happenstance we would have at least one example throughout history of a prosperous matriarchal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:28 PM
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Yup. Its painfully easy to spot as well. When you refute their beliefs they respond from an emotional space. There is no amount of logic or empirical data that can overcome the way they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:24 PM
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They frequently seem to lack an understanding of basic logic. Example from the link: All students are millionaires. All millionaires are Buddhists. Therefore all students must be Buddhists. I see them make this mistake on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:15 PM
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See I already answered that question. The ability to enslave/employ inherently means that master/employer is superior to the slave/employee by some metric. If the slave/employee were superior he would be the master/employer. How about this. Say all the women on earth vanished from existence. Other than procreation, would society be able to carry on without them? Now how about all the men suddenly vanish? What then? There certain basic logistical things that men have taken care of from the dawn o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:12 PM
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Blue Pill doesn't do the reading. Honestly, even reading the sidebar is not enough. You only realize the truth of it all when you go out into the world and begin making personal observations. Blue pill does grant red pill the presumption that RP is saying meaningful. That's the biggest problem I have discussing on here. It becomes this condescending back-and-forth. You can't have a logical debate when emotions and judgments are so heavily involved from the beginning. There's no intellectual curi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:02 PM
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So now we're down to "I'm rubber you're glue" territory?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 08:48 PM
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Now you're just boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 08:47 PM
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You are making this far more complicated than it needs to be. Here's some directed responses below followed by a longer explanation: Before we breach the veil... What choice do we wish to make ? Easy. A rational actor would chose to live in a world where there is zero chance they will be killed before birth. It only assumes that there is a right answer relative to human preferences. I'd assume most people prefer to continue living than to be killed. Well, from behind the veil you also have to as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 08:43 PM
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Wow, sexual strategy is now the human brain. Absolutely. Its all about the brain. What else is it? More women graduate from college than men. So apparently at the task of "completing their undergrad" women are superior than men. When I refer to task I'm talking about some sort of utilitarian activity that produces something of value: what we might refer to as a job, trade, or skill. Learning about carpentry is not a "task". Building a table is a task. But I mean, if you want to argue that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 07:58 PM
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It's a critical distinction that completely undermines your analysis Explain. If the majority if humans reach this answer when the analysis is laid out, then it is by definition the right answer. Common fallacy. By your logic Justin Beiber and Iggy Azalia are the best musicians; Kim Kardashian should be queen of the world; Poo d and China is the best place to live. The can be no right answer relative to an objective standard so that means the right answer relative to humans decisions is the ONLY…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 07:52 PM
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I guess you can put a "sexual strategy" up there with "theoretical physics." I mean, I wouldn't, but you can. You're right its more complex. By far, the most advanced thing in the known universe is the human brain. Think about that for a second. So you think I can't defeat the view that women are below men but above slaves? Provide some objective examples of where women are superior at a discreet task as compared to men. Usually even the most devout feminist admits that men are superior at all k…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 07:26 PM
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Yes. And you violated that when you said "if this fetus was me" but did NOT also say "if a other fetus she would have had is also me and the mother is also me". You broke the veil and put yourself in an individual, the fetus to be aborted, rather than all individuals in the same postion "all non sentient beings" That's a semantic distinction that in reality doesn't effect outcome. You should choose "a society with abortion, and I hope the coin flip comes up B" over the choice "a society without,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 07:23 PM
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I think its more like 127k losers desperately want to find happiness in this crazy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 06:48 PM
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Huh, weird how you can go to places like r/askreddit and see longer post. Shit, I see longer post on here. What percentage of Reddit posts would you say are longer than that brief, layman's explanation of String Theory? .1%? .01%? Serious question; do you know what misogyny is? I'm quite content to label myself a misogynist by contemporary standards. We label a lot of people with bullshit labels when we cannot actually defeat the substance of their views. Terrorist; misogynist; racist; sexist; c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 06:42 PM
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Enough of this petty bullshit. Truthfully, I don't think you understand this theory that you keep talking about. In fact, its quite a simple idea. So simple in fact that people frequently and intuitively employ the thought experiment without even realizing it. Let's quote the article you linked and I'll explain it in some concise language. parties to the original position know nothing about their particular abilities, tastes, and position within the social order of society. When such parties are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 06:37 PM
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TRP has 127,573 readers PPD has 6,114 readers You do the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 06:30 PM
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Tons of resources that simply explain String Theory. And as you can see even a simple explanation would be beyond the scope of a Reddit comment. What I don't understand is why RPers spend more time arguing why they can't give a cohesive definition then it would take to give a cohesive definition. The majority of them aren't even here arguing in the first place. Ah, so when you said "men" what you meant was "Nietzsche." Jefferson Aristotle Freud "more mischievous, less simple, more impulsive ... …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 06:24 PM
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Wow, you are now trying to justify why there is a debate sub that is designed to justify TRP. No. I'm asking if 1 in 20 is defined as "many" in your view. /r/iamverysmart Things an 8th grader would say for 200, Alex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:59 PM
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Yes. Good luck. No it doesn't. No one can cohesively explain it because it is incomprehensible. What I'm trying to explain to you is that there's different levels of understanding. For example someone can show you that the quadratic formula can solve a quadratic equation and in fact a 9 year old can be taught how to employ the equation but it takes far deeper a level of understanding to know why it works. We call this fiction. We cal this an analogy. Its a very useful method of understanding. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:56 PM
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I would assume most of the people on here are RP. And for whatever reason, they sure seem to be invested in justifying TRP. So 4.5% is "many" in your view? There is a term for this, it is called "Dunning-Kruger." You can see the same thing from your typical Harvard Law graduate they all (at least the many I have encountered) have a sense of smugness to them. Is their superiority illusory?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:47 PM
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Entirely irrelevant to the point I was making. Try to follow along here: HSW said: it's better to abort a child than have an unwanted child that would probably have a shit life I said: I'll take a shit life living in the gutter rather than no[t] existing For the record I'm pro-abortion. If anything we should start giving tax breaks for people who want to kill their offspring. More resources for my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:44 PM
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No. I'm starting from the philosophical basis of "the veil of ignorance" which is a standard starting position for secular ethics as divorced from religious ethics. You cannot divorce ethics from an underlying set of beliefs. Ethics are inherently subjective. There is not a single objective principal of ethics - I've thought long and hard about that and have concluded ethics is simply not objective. Rape is about as close as you can get to a universal accepted immoral activity but how do you def…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:41 PM
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Yet we just had an TRP endorsed contributor who was unable to clearly explain TRP. Could a Nobel Prize winning quantum physicists explain his entire theory in a few sentences? Understanding RP theory takes months if not years. There are stages to understanding it and internalizing it and seeing it happen all around you. When Neo was unplugged from the Matrix was he instantly The One? No. It took time. Even for him. Even if it was capable of being neatly put into words the effect wouldn't be the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:25 PM
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I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of TRP. In other words, you're conflating TRP with Men's Rights. TRP is not concerned with changing the system. Its concerned with understanding the system and then employing an optimal strategy within the confines of the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:17 PM
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Define "so many"? PPD has 4.72% of the amount of subs as compared to TRP. Assuming half are BP that means only 2.5% of the TRP user base contributes to this sub. As for me I'm naturally argumentative. I'll debate the shit out of anything if for nothing else to satisfy my smug sense of superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:13 PM
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Yeah, it is irrelevant to expect something defined as a sexual strategy to have a cohesive definition. The distinction is irrelevant. The purpose of a theory or system or understanding is not relevant to whether a clear understand of the system can be readily identified. In the same way that climate denial is rooted in climatology. Except its not rooted in climatology. Its rooted in partisan lobby efforts. TIL that TRP is the wrong thing to read when you want to learna bout TRP. Just as if you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:05 PM
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They've literally just never done the reading and expect us to talk to them. Its quite comparable to the theist counter to the evolution theory: if people came from monkeys why are there still monkeys? Checkmate atheist scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:59 PM
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Most bloops read that mass imgur of mean things red pillers say. It's quite frustrating. This used to frustrate me as well until I realized its in my own best interest for as many men to stay blue for as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:54 PM
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Biology isn't touted as a "self-improvement" philosophy nor is it touted as a "sexual strategy." Irrelevant for purposes of what was being discussed. Biology can also be objectively proven, while TRP can not. This is particularly amusing considering RP theory is rooted in biology. I've never had a professor tell me to do the reading and then deny that's what the reading said. I've had plenty of RPers tell me to do the reading and then deny what the reading said. That's because you're reading the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:53 PM
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If TRP expects people to take them seriously they need to properly define their philosophy. That's your mistake assuming they would care. The sun doesn't care if you believe it will rise tomorrow. It just does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:49 PM
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No, because how do you know your "soul" (for want of a better word) wasn't denied it's access to this world as it was "scheduled" to be in the 27 yo baby that never was (because she didn't have the abortion at 17). You are a starting from a self-serving, nonsensical position. You are essentially saying "here's this belief I have that is not falsifiable that serves as the basis for all of my logical arguments." I'm sorry but you cannot mix oil and water. If you want to make this about faith then …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:17 PM
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I can only speak on myself. I love people for what type of person they are not how they make me feel in the moment. People don't make me "feel" very much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:13 PM
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Yea . . . whether its a life/person/parasite and whose rights trump literally have nothing to do with what I said. But thanks for regaling me with your explanations of the basics on the abortion argument. Assuming you are an as yet uncreated human... Is whether you'd like to be born to the 17 yo in no position to raise a baby and with baby daddy probably a dot disappearing over the horizon.... Or the same woman aged 27 in a stable home with a stable man with the wet withal to raise children well…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:50 PM
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Some truth there but I try not to devolve things to left and right. It's all the same garbage identity politics these days anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:48 PM
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The thought of not existing. Not actually not existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:46 PM
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In my experience women love kids for the same reason they love anything else - for how it/they makes them feel. Even if they have an undying love for the child its a self-centered type of love that revolves around their emotional state.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:30 PM
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That's some amazingly stupid logic. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make. This isn't a theoretical thought experiment (Schrodinger's cat) this is a human life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:28 PM
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I'll take a shit life living in the gutter rather than no existing. The latter is utterly terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:21 PM
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That's pretty simple: lawyers gon' lawyer
/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 06:42 PM
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Whether or not divorce rape occurs has nothing to do whether you're a leech. All I can tell you is try to separate those two things and try to judge them on their own merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:11 AM
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I highly doubt that was a response.
/r/MensRights23/08/15 01:13 AM
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Disagree. I've dated women with low sex drives and women with sex drives that outpaced my own. Everybody is different depending on a shit on of factors that can change at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:00 PM
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No. But you can be hit by a few cars and still realize that you'll find some other good drivers that will slam on their breaks and avoid a collision.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 05:57 PM
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Thing is I'm not concerned with what people on reddit say. I'm just concerned with the reality of the situation. I wouldn't strawman anything. The truth is a marriage is the one of the riskiest things a man can engage in. At the drop of the hat, and for no reason (no fault divorce is great) I can have my entire life torn asunder. I hope one thing you've taken away from this conversation is how important I view motherhood. As a man I view all the work that I do as the grunt work needed to create …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 05:09 PM
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May lead but not necessarily. The comparison between sex and war is a bad one. The reason gdp didn't grow when women entered the workforce was that they were already having all their demands met economically speaking. That means the proper comparison would be paying the soldiers. As they do not have a private provider (husband). I think moms got a ton of credit. Historically everyone unquestionably respected the role of mother. Ironically, post feminism as the dominant paradigm we are seeing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 02:51 AM
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In the US they are free till college. And even then you just buy one edition older for 5 bucks a pop. Is that really a crazy expectation for the mom to raise her kids? I hardly call that labor in the sense you're implying. I saw an interesting graph showing the inflation adjust gdp per capita in the US. The growth trajectory didn't change at all as a result of women working. So what that means is we added 100m workers but the pie didn't get bigger. You do the math. Coincidentally that confirms d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 09:30 PM
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Consider that before feminism taught women to aspire to be men everyone got free child care. From a historical perspective paying for child care is the outlier. Who pays for text books?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:42 PM
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The $250 was more of a minimum type thing as in if all I had was $250 I could make it happen. Realistically you're going to end up spending thousands because we love to waste money on our kids in this country. I wouldn't count fuel or car because those already exist as expenses. Books I can get for free but who are we kidding kids don't read books they play apps. The child care is going to be a guarantee. I'll tell you I'm majorly opposed to having strangers take such a large role in raising my …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:00 AM
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A variety of reasons: for example in my family (a shit lord patriarchy by contemporary standards) most of the women do not work. Or if they do work they are teachers or social workers and work part-time. Thus they are available to take care of the children. And the one's who do work drop the children off with the grandparents who are generally retired. The US is far too diverse to give you an average. Compare the cost of living for your average family living in Manhattan as compared to a farmer …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:29 PM
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The strategy is self-improvement (i.e. increase SMV). This is juxtaposed from seductions strategy which is to learn how to feign SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:21 PM
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Flexibility doesn't imply equal distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:16 PM
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implies inequality in talent/skills Yet doesn't imply inequality is respect. that makes sense that you would be fine with that since you seem very pro hierarchy. I fail to see your point (as with most of your posts). Seems like you're just fishing for points of contention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:15 PM
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Hard to answer that question. It depends on a lot of factors. Do I have access to free child care/able to provide it myself? Do I have hand me downs from relatives or my other children? Do I have any self-sustaining food sources on my property? Where do I live? How old is the child? Is public education adequate or do I need to pay for private school? For some people it could be virtually free.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:13 PM
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You sure love your ad hominem arguments don't you? You claim to know so much about me having such a small sample size. Certainly you must appreciate the irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:07 PM
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Don't move the goal posts. My original point was there will always be a leader and a follower. Without hierarchy there is chaos.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:06 PM
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What part of having a hierarchy necessarily implies the leader will look down on a follower? Moreover, I'm absolutely comfortable becoming a subordinate and learning from a superior. In fact I seek such mentors out on a regular basis in all facets of my life. Its how I've gotten this far in the first place. People who are not comfortable being a follower tend to be arrogant and/or ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:04 PM
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According to you $400/ea. Where does the other $1200+ go (i.e. the majority of the funds)? How about for an actual rich guy who's paying 5 figures monthly. At some level you know I'm right about this. Just admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:01 PM
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The condescension is palpable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:58 PM
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Because you obviously know its a de facto ranking. Furthermore, its a ranking that depends on the particular context. One guy might be the best slayer of pussy so he's the "leader" at the club; another guy the best on the basketball court; etc. Not too many of my main group of friends have "best" friends were more part of an extended group of friends. My best friend is someone I met before that group and like I said you'll see the leadership between me and him change depending on the context but…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:57 PM
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Perhaps you believe you're not intelligent enough to see past your own bullshit and think objectively. Luckily I get paid to do just that. You could say its a skill I've honed over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:54 PM
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Why don't you play around with this calculator. In my current situation I'd be looking at close to $2000/month for 2 children. If I were to start making any more money now we're talking about giving each kid enough money to support an entire family. This kid better be fucking dressed in Versace and eating filet mignon for that much money. Moreover, you're missing the point. Say the mom spends the money on food and clothes. She now has her our resources that have been saved. She now spends those …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:53 PM
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I really don't see the point of this comment. Nothing is a guarantee in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:47 PM
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relationships between two people, dyads, are different than a military group or company. You seem to consistently state conclusion yet have no logic or analysis to back them up. out of curiosity, what's your rank in your group of friends? have you talked about each of your ranks? I'm not even going to dignify this with a response. Certain you understand the idea of a de facto hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:42 PM
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The fact that you think the mother will dutifully spend all of that money on the kid shows you are living in some fantasy land. She will use that money (either directly or indirectly) for her benefit. I've witnessed it first hand countless times. Don't be naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:39 PM
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How do you even know what my sample size it? A human life span is more than ample sample size. Just think of what you're implying. Its lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:38 PM
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have you read the selfish gene by richard dawkins? seems like your genes have you brainwashed. after x generations your descendants are as related to you as just about anyone else. you have no unique genetic legacy. You miss the point. I want to watch them grow. I want to cultivate them and lead them to greatness. When I'm and old man I want to sit on my rocking chair with my grandchild on my lap. I could care less what happens centuries later. that's for each person to decide. for me, it's indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:34 PM
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Its not that simple. If the female takes the child from me and I only get to see the kid a few hours a week I really can't even support the child. A child needs guidance and a role model far more than he needs bullshit money to buy useless crap society has decided is essential. Then add to that the tens of thousands a year on "child support" which is just spending money for the mom. The one depriving support is the selfish mom who has decided her momentary happiness is more important than her ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:19 PM
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You must believe all people who post on TRP share common goals in life. You'd be wrong. Its not about caring what women want per se its about the fact that if you're not willing to get married you will have to compromise on the quality of woman you want to obtain. Don't have kids is tantamount to committing suicide in my view. My children are my immortality. They are the thing to care about. What's the point of life if not procreation. The fact that we live in a perverse system that places such …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:10 PM
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The nirvana fallacy. As I stated its the best available data set. No where did I contend it was complete or perfect. Moreover, I'm glad its skewed and not perfectly diverse. I'm only interested in how females in my culture behave. I don't care about the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:08 PM
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So in other words since the data doesn't back the conclusions you've predetermined to be correct you find the data to be flawed. Do you not see the irony?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:07 PM
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Narcissistic or realistic? Think about this: ANY single social construction of people (whether it be in a work setting, military setting, social setting, anything) has a hierarchy. At work and in the military it's obvious. But you'll notice the same exists in social groups. I posit to you that you look closely at any group interaction you'll see there are natural leaders - certain individuals of the group will set the "norms" of the group. The idea of equality is nonsense. Humans are born to eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:06 PM
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You're missing the point. The idea system would be a benevolent dictator - no bureaucracy or corruption. Just pure totalitarianism that is employed in a philanthropic manner. If I wield the power I can wield it for good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:47 PM
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Perhaps some examples will make it clear for you. As a man I don't make my bed. I don't meticulously clean every thing in the room. I don't go buy a new useless item from Target/Ikea every week. I don't constantly rearrange everything in my house. I don't use coasters. I don't give a fuck about the toilet seat. I don't care if the sink gets a little dirty. I don't care if I leave a few pieces of clothing on the ground. Etc. ad infinitum. All of these little bullshitty things matter a great deal …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:46 PM
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The thing is all of these terms are ever-changing and even at any moment no one agrees on what they mean. That being said, just as there are different waves of feminism there are different waves of liberalism. Most people will agree with the agenda of first wave feminism (right to work vote etc.). However, as you move further down the line things start to get a bit hairy. The same applies to liberalism. Virtually everyone would agree with representative government (revolution) or the abolition o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:40 PM
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Dude, you're totally manipulating her with all those abz and smooth conversation. Next time just beg for the pussy. That's real consent. Anything else is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:27 PM
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On point. The moment you stop treating a female with kid gloves (i.e. take away the privileged treatment they have come to expect from men) and interact with them as you would a male is the moment they think you're a jerk. I'm generally lacking in emotion (even for a man) I've had multiple LTRs where the girl has complained about my lack of negative emotion. I've concluded that they wanted me to confide in them about all the bad things in my life. Its almost as if they want bad things to happen …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:26 PM
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Yea, this is totally not confined to TRP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hpYQsckWno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su7HpKOFTM0 As for not communicating - obviously some is needed. The difference is that I can't sit in the same room as a woman without her feeling the need to constantly do something - most of the time that is conversate. Sometimes I just want to sit there and zone out and let my mind "defrag" so to speak. Women don't seem to understand this concept - its part of why TRP refers …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:19 PM
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Yea, no. You must not understand what AWALT means. There are common denominators but that doesn't mean all women exhibit the exact same behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:15 PM
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Oh no doubt. I've even taken him aside a few times asking him if he wants to come work out with me. His problem is he's the CEO of a multi-million dollar business (constantly travelling to Asia to meet with suppliers etc.) and has two young kids. Safe to say he's got a lot on his plate and doesn't have the energy/willpower to eat right or workout.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:44 PM
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so many =/= all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:31 PM
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Women need to "communicate" because all of their actions and desires are shrouded in these bullshit psychological games they love to play. Their needs are also constantly changing and subject to their current emotional state. Whereas a man doesn't need to communicate. It doesn't take a genius as to what we want and it never changes: food; sex; silence. Literally that simple. There's your damn report.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:29 PM
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Yup. His only saving grace is that in our culture its still pretty unacceptable to get a divorce. Although, its becoming more prevalent as time goes on. That won't stop her from bitching him out 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:27 PM
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Yea someone might assert that to be the case. I disagree with that assertion. In a healthy relationship there will be a leader and a follower. No need for any gamesmanship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:25 PM
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Why does average matter? If I'm a successful person I will get reamed for child support. Its unconscionable that my level of success dictates how much the "child" (in quotes because we all know the mom will spend the bulk on herself) receives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:25 PM
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You realize there is a social stigma attached to not being married right? You also realize most women won't be satisfied with not getting married right? You are also aware of something called common law marriage and/or palimony right? You also realize child support can be obtained without marriage right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:24 PM
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Except when it comes to social interactions the scientific method is basically useless. There's no objective way to measure any of this. No studies we can employ. And surveys are pointless because people lie all the time. All we have left is to fall back on our own experience. Maybe you believe you're not intelligent enough to correct for your own bias - as for me I trust myself more than one some "scientist" who had an end goal in mind and reverse engineered his answer - or even worse the scien…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:10 PM
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e guy kept living the way he (and they) had always lived I'm witnessing that first hand with a particular family member. Both were overweight - post pregnancy she dropped a ton and is now in pretty damn good shape and looking sexy again - he's still obese. You can see the power dynamic has shifted in the relationship and she has begun to openly mock and berate him in that way women are so good at doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:07 PM
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well, i don't think any relationship where one party has more hand/power is equal/reciprocal/healthy. That's quite a pessimistic outlook. Have you heard of the benevolent dictator? If I wield all the power I have full control to exercise it an a fair manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:05 PM
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or these are lazy males that need surrogate moms to run their life. putting your wife in a mom role gives them more power. if you are a male that doesn't want to grow up, you are fine with this dynamic. That's usually not how it works. Typically what I see is that women are way more caught up in the pointless minutiae of life. Whereas as men are more of the easy going who cares type. Naturally when the woman is constantly pestering you about all of this inconsequential shit she will become the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:04 PM
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You realize child support still exists right? In modern times, if a man wants to procreate he puts himself in a precarious condition whereby at a drop of a hat, and for no reason, she can turn him into an indentured servant for nearly 2 decades. A man has two choices: die alone and without descendants or open himself up to an unconscionable amount of liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:45 PM
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without a rational explanation. Most relationships between men and women are an exchange of commitment (from the male) for sex (from the female). Understanding that paradigm we see why the power dynamics are permanently skewed once a marriage contract is executed. The man is now contractually obligated to provide commitment. Meanwhile, the woman is not obligated to provide sex. Once she begins withholding sex she can obtain ever-increasing levels of commitment for ever-decreasing levels (and qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:41 PM
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and you can pretend your view of reality is accurate and not subject to subjectivity and selection bias/distortion. The cop out to end all cop outs. This statement is truly Orwellian in its nature but I don't think most people realize that when they make the statement. It's also the most common retort when BP has nothing to discount an RP argument. Essentially what that statement stands for is that we are all blind to reality, our experiences mean nothing, and the only truth is what "they" ("res…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:37 PM
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In my experience when a relationship is purportedly "equal" it really means the woman is running the show. Both parties appear to be getting everything they want. Only what she wants is ever-expanding and what he wants is ever shrinking. At worst all he wants is to shut her up. Some great equality we got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:31 PM
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Except a LTR that operates as a prisoners dilemma is toxic and unsustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:29 PM
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You write that as if there is some standard, objective, agreed upon definition of "fair".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:06 PM
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I don't think we're disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:38 AM
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I said it was bs because it was unconvincing. The STDs was a minor point to show there is still risk. We agree on biology being the root. No one decided women can't be sluts. People just aren't attracted to dirty whores. It's innate. There's plenty of reasons to be on TRP dunno why you seem to believe it has a limited purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 04:24 AM
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Sotomayor wants to have a word with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:59 PM
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Stop victim-blaming!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:53 PM
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There's a difference between "beauty" and "looks". Hint: the former is more narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:44 PM
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Now this is just getting boring. You aren't even responding to what I write or making any thought provoking comments yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:37 PM
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"Least attractive" doesn't mean "not attractive to anyone". Thirsty men will fuck anything with a pulse. Basically, any girl on earth can get regular dick if she's just willing to spread her legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:35 PM
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I'm sorry to say but if you cannot understand the simple math then you are hopeless. I'll try one more time with a bit of explanation Black girl attracts 20 guys, fucks 10 of them. White girl attracts 100 guys, fucks 5 of them. As you can see, notwithstanding the fact that the white girl has more sexual suitors, the black women fucks a higher percentage of her suitors and thus is simultaneously less attractive but more promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:33 PM
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The reason slut shaming exists is because it's a historical requirement for men to know their wives are going to be faithful. Ingraining women with a loyalty to their husbands was the only way to ensure that when a woman became pregnant, it was yours. For this reason it is spread, unambiguously, across culture, race and continents that women need to be faithful no matter what. And it's not just the husbands that push this on women. It's fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters who all wanted their…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:28 PM
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Look again though, much of the "self improvement" is also based on being (at the very least) dismissive of other people's feelings. That's one way to term it. Another way would be simply to make yourself priority number one in your life. Girls are taught to do this from day one whereas boys have drilled into their head: make girls happy; happy wife happy life; and all that other nonsense. I think TRP tactics work on very insecure and vulnerable women and I think the tactics cause further damage.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:19 PM
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You have it all wrong. Here's the "real" (the numbers are for illustrative purposes and in no way are accurate) numbers: Black girl attracts 20 guys, fucks 10 of them. White girl attracts 100 guys, fucks 5 of them. Black guy attracts 5 girls fucks 5 of them. White man attracts 5 girls fucks 2 of them. Fat slob with no game attracts 0 girls, masturbates at home. The take away is that at a certain level of hotness (during a woman's peak SMV) regardless of race a woman will have more sexual suitors…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:10 PM
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He's saying while men seek sex women seek commitment. By commitment I mean time, money, attention, and other resources. A lot of men will try to trade the least amount of commitment they can for the most amount of sex. The opposite is true of women: they will trade the least amount of sex for the most amount of commitment. This is just a product of evolution: the male imperative is to spread his seed thereby increasing the chance his genes survive; the female imperative is to secure as much reso…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:08 PM
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I most definitely have dealt with children my entire life. Their attempts to manipulate adults are hilariously out of touch, and if you think otherwise, well... that says a lot about your level of cognitive functioning. I see children manipulate their parents all the fucking time - teenagers are the best but even a 5 year old can get it done "mommy said it was okay". But thanks for the personal insults. Every time I read one from you I check a box in the win column - nothing logical to add = per…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:58 PM
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children aren't great at manipulating adults, we find their attempts adorably bumbling. You must have never had kids. What a fantastic surprise! You can only conjure up a mere single example of how women are superior. I didn't expect this at all! You're definitely not proving my point! After dozens of messages I'm still not sure you have a point. Find a single profession that exists on earth where the best person at it isn't a male. "Bunch of horseshit conjecture that I'm unable to prove, and is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:35 PM
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I feel sorry for you. So much anger. So much hate. So much stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:59 PM
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And that's exactly how people who are drawn to Bernie Sanders feel about the government: "gosh, Bernie is saying all the shit I always suspected was true about the government!". See how easy that was? Hope you realize what you wrote is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:42 PM
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Man, you're a funny guy/gal. I didn't know conversing with like-minded individuals was considering a religious activity. I didn't know I "subscribed" to anything. Thanks for informing me about how I'm living my life, pal. As for women's strengths (I'll preface this by saying I'm basing this purely off my entire life's experience), on average they are much better at reading and manipulating social situations. They also have higher emotional intelligence. Socially speaking, they operate at a MUCH …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:41 PM
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You know what attracted me to RP? The fact there was a whole group of men articulating all the thoughts I already had. The truth doesn't deal in nonsense like equality or inferiority. It just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:08 PM
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Two things that are different, by definition, cannot be equal. There are certain areas women are superior and certain areas men are superior. To believe anything else would be bending reality to fit the equality agenda. Stupidity at its finest. Also, not sure where I said most of that stuff. Are you getting it from the sidebar? Lastly, I'm not sure what you mean by defend? Are you saying that I should explain why that doesn't mean I find women inferior? Or are you saying those things aren't true…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 06:13 PM
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It's a pretty easy trap to fall into: become exposed to the most ignorant parts of an ideology; have that reinforced by opponents of the ideology spoon feeding you their twisted views on the subject; and close yourself off to any rational thought or personal exploration on the subject. Perfect recipe for ignorance of any subject, TRP included.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:06 AM
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Sweet. One more reason why I'm a shitlord. I almost exclusively refer to women as girls or females. Seems it just came natural.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 12:59 AM
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Wrong. TRP is not immoral. There are two levels to TRP: knowledge and strategy. Knowledge is inherently amoral. Strategy can be immoral or moral all depending on how you apply it. More importantly, while knowledge is ubiquitous, strategy is inherently personal. Your individual characteristics and goals will cause your individual strategy to change. If you have immoral goals your strategy will be immoral but that doesn't mean TRP is inherently immoral. Rather it's just a simple tool for you to le…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 12:57 AM
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Care to explain the difference?
/r/MensRights17/08/15 11:35 PM
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Think you meant to reply to a different comment of mine and not this thread but I'll respond anyway. There is absolutely a strategy and plenty of men "win" with women every single day. Although to be certain a real win is a win-win where both parties create something bigger than the whole. We commonly refer to that as a family and/or healthy LTR. Self development is a never ending process. It simply doesn't go only so far. Lebron James is still honing his skills as a basketball player even thoug…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 10:20 PM
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I definitely did not want this to come off as one of those complaint type post. Rather, I hoped this might lead to some constructive improvements. And I can definitely appreciate the work put in by the middle considering the subject matter of this sub almost guarantees a shit show if left unchecked. That being said, I've been reading this sub for a long while but it's only been in the last month or two that I've noticed a sharp turn in the type of content being posted. Hence, the creation of thi…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 10:13 PM
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False. BP strategy was the predominant strategy for millennia on end. Work hard and prove yourself as a provider and thereby you win favor with the female's parents (they were the selectors of the mates by in large) and marry your wife. By showing yourself as a good provider (BB) you would attract the attention of the older generation who would then allow you to have their daughters. In a world where a woman cannot reasonably acquire resources on her own the BB role is the most sought after. Now…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:54 PM
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Close. Its social darwinism but it's actually the feminist women that are making themselves extinct. Remember, TRP is just what was created out of the wake that is feminism. Also remember that women by and large (and to a growing degree due to modern technology and laws) control the circumstances of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:24 AM
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It can't explain why I was raped by my ex, it can't explain why I can't seem to keep a friendship without someone falling in love with me, and it's "We don't need to believe your anecdotal data" attitude just proves to me it has no answers for anyone who doesn't join the cult. Are you saying you want TRP to be a forum that caters to your needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:05 AM
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Oh, the irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:04 AM
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Once again re-read his post. Women are looking for both an alpha and beta. Their preference is to find that in one man but if they can't find the total package they will divide the roles among two or more people i.e. AF/BB i.e. they need a fucking and the emotional bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:03 AM
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It's almost as if you believe RP tactics involve lecturing women on the underlying tenants of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 08:57 AM
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You've unwittingly touched on a modern phenomena. Let's unpeel the onion on this one. The feminist/progressive POV is the majority POV in western society. Ironically, feminism looks down upon the traditional female role and places little value on being a wife or mother. Instead it encourages women to adopt what was traditionally a male lifestyle: career-minded and promiscuous. As a result, we now live in a society where both sexes aspire to be masculine. What's going on here is that you've inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 08:51 AM
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You're not rp because of the above. You're rp because you enjoy feeling like women are innately inferior. And it's fucking sad. And here folks is when the feeble minded cast aside logic and went into an emotional diatribe. Take note.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 08:45 AM
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No one said the advice was unique to RP, just that RP included that advice. Huge difference. Beyond that you can see the separation between your typical BP advice and RP advice in a lot of ways. BP will tell you to always make her a priority and bend over backwards in order to make her happy while RP will state the opposite: create distance and mystery will engaging in self improvement. Ultimately, all of the advice (at least in the context of a LTR) can be pretty simply boiled down to making he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 08:39 AM
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Word. Having re-read your comment I see the connotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 08:17 AM
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The usual argument put forth is that she forwent furthering her career to be a housewife/mother thereby forever decreasing her wage earning capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 08:16 AM
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Depends on the jurisdiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 06:44 AM
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For women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:13 PM
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You almost have it. At least based on my experience, I've yet to meet a girl who loved their job (unless it was some type of do-good SJW-esque endeavor). Rather, most of them seem to hate their job, constantly complain about it, and worst of all seem to be in a constant state of anxiety over their job and everything in generally. On the other hand I've noticed that men are almost the polar opposite. Many derive their purpose from having an established career. These are the types of people who ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:26 AM
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Please explain these social stigmas you believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:22 AM
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I think every guy has been there at some point. You meet a girl. She seems perfect but some dude got to her first and locked them up. You're always left wondering what could have been and if you'll ever find another one quite as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 07:54 AM
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Pushing through an explicit denial of sex from a woman ( I do not want to have sex with you) is rape. Two key points: You can "push through" without using force. Likewise you can push through by obtaining consent. A lot of these girls put up LMR so they don't seem like sluts. Deep down they want it and to be frank based on personal experience they want you to aggressively pursue it. Sorry if reality doesn't comport with your silly notions of what consent means to 2015 progressives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 07:25 PM
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Nah son: guys just wake up looking jacked with 8% BF on the regular.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 07:08 PM
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That's what the picture was, dummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:35 PM
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Possibly on average you might be correct. But comparing a world class bodybuilder who dedicates their entire existence to their physique to your typical model and you'll see a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:33 PM
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Regardless of the truth of that statement there's no point in changing strategy. You couldn't have progressed with any of those women anyway. The whole point is to (0) build self respect, (1) acquire, and (2) vet properly. As you vet you will hopefully come across a good one. This is how an organic long term relationship is formed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 10:31 AM
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If that is the end goal of most people in TRP, then why is there so much focus on short-term mating in /r/TheRedPill? Wouldn't it be much more efficient to talk about how to best filter out the good girls from the bad girls before jumping into bed with them? When the sub is actually productive its more about raw truth seeking and understanding the game of life than telling you what to do with that knowledge. Some things are a personal decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 10:27 AM
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I really haven't seen ANY technique from her. I've seen three fights of hers and they've all been the same: bull rush the opponent, swing for the head, knock them to the ground, keep going for the head, the end.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/15 02:27 AM
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Ad hominem for 200, Alex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 04:45 AM
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In a sense the tone on the nice guy sub validates a lot of what is said on TRP. It's not about being nice. It's about the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 04:43 AM
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Baby steps. They need both techniques under their belt. First max force on the bar with proper form. Then max tension on muscles.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/15 07:21 PM
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Two key points you're missing (1) its not a binary thing, and (2) women respond to a particular vibe a man gives off. With that in mind anyone can make incremental gains and thus improve their mating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 10:57 PM
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Exactly. MRA are essentially employing feminist tactics. It was a failed movement from its inception. Its nonsense to join them in their victimhood paradigm. Instead live your life in the driver seat and make the changes you want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 10:49 PM
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That doesn't explain the overall decline in marriage rates themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:02 PM
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It's not about making yourself feel better its about reaching a higher level of consciousness. The impulse that accompanies the perception of an emotion is a light that flickers on and beckons for resolution. Both ignoring (fear of facing your inner thoughts) the light and allowing the light to consume you (mental slavery) are wrong. Instead control and understanding is paramount. Building the mental tools to deconstruct ones thoughts and feelings in order to diagnose their causes and treat thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:42 AM
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I'll be honest and say I didn't bother reading your example. I think you're missing what I'm saying which is pretty basic: 6 months SS + 6 months pure hypertrophy will get better long term results and mindset than 1 year hypertrophy with no lead in.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 10:49 AM
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I agree with you except I feel like religion is a great way to control the masses as you've alluded to.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 10:30 AM
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If you put someone on SS or SL they are gonna get noob gains and be excited about that. 6 months later they've built a solid base and most importantly have engrained the motor patterns for the basic barbell lifts that will be the core of their training forever. Next, if hypertrophy is the goal, you swap them to PPL or some other three day split and the gains continue.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 09:07 AM
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I usually aim for meal prep time around 15-20 minutes. Grill meat in batches (e.g. 3lbs of chicken). And you can eat it with anything. Rice, salad, etc. For me that's my "base" meal for the day (either as one big meal or two decent ones) and then I'll either end up eating dinner in a social setting or if at home steak, eggs, burgers etc.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 09:03 AM
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It's possible you may need outside help but for me true mastery is not only resolving them internally but then expending that time helping others achieve that result.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 06:10 AM
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It's heathy to be aware of emotions but the goal is to internally resolve them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:12 AM
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That was his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:27 PM
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Find me any material in the sidebar that hates on women. The goal is to accept everyone for who they are and maximize your potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 10:03 PM
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You have to realize the audience. TRP is a forum for men to discuss things in a 100% unsugarcoated manner, which is frankly unacceptable in modern progressive discourse. But that's OK. TRP doesn't exist to convince women or to serve as some sort of PR. It's there for men to discuss life and reality. When men talk freely without women around there's a huge probability what will come out is not going to be accepted under modern social norms. Which makes you realize that the mainstream discourse is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 08:17 PM
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I disagree in the sense that routine can be beneficial and also detrimental. It all depends on your routine. The man who wakes up at 6:00 am every day, hits the gym, prepares himself a nutritional breakfast, and spends 10-15 minutes meditating or reading something of intellectual value before heading to work has a positive routine. Likewise the man who has a routine for all the necessary repetitive tasks required to sustain basic existence (cleaning, cooking, laundry, errands, etc.) such that he…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/15 06:31 AM
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My main issue would be doxxing. We talk with a level of candor on this sub that is incompatible with our "normal" (i.e. progressive/feminist) discourse in society.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/15 06:26 AM
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Thanks for the shout out gents. I've been mulling over that concept for a while now. I may try to put my thoughts to paper in the next few weeks and if I'm satisfied with the results I'll publish it here.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/15 12:24 AM
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Thank you for taking the time to articulate the point in such eloquent prose.
/r/TheRedPill26/07/15 09:42 PM
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To be fair they can sympathize with you. The problem is that the tingles and the sympathy are mutually exclusive. You can't have both.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 11:59 PM
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The OP made me suspect troll. This comment confirms it.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 09:01 AM
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Number four should really be number one. It's the singles best indicator of success.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 08:59 AM
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The best combo is abs and another pic with a dog, preferably you playing with it or taking it on an "adventure".
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 01:24 AM
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/woosh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 12:03 AM
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See the thing is before we pussified the culture having competition was a good thing. You used it as motivation. You rose to the occasion. Competition was the purpose of life. Now a days we want to give everyone a trophy and call everyone winners. That's not the nature of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:35 PM
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I haven't see a virgin obsession. And another consideration is that you don't want an inexperienced girl at all. There's a huge difference between a woman who's had 1000 sexual experiences with 100 different men, a girl who's had 0 sexual experiences whatsoever, and a girl who's had 1000 sexual experiences but only with a few partners. The latter is the ideal. The first is fuck buddy material. And the middle is presumptively a no-go, absent extenuating circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:28 PM
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Don't you know your personal experience is totally worthless and just confirmation bias from your privileged mind. The only real source of information is what we tell you is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:11 AM
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This is how it starts. This behavior will become more and more prevalent, more mainstream, and then sooner or later it will become the expectation and you'll be an oppressive shit lord if you don't let your "wife" go around fucking half the town. I weep for society.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 04:33 PM
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I'm not following your reasoning. What is the difference between a man who dies before he can reproduce and a man who is celibate his entire life (and then dies of course)? We're talking population distribution right? I think you can answer that yourself - whether all the children are being fathered by 10% of the men or 100% they will still be born roughly 50/50 male/female. Value according to whom? What value does a woman's beauty give to another women reproductively speaking? We are programmed…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:52 PM
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When we introduce war, deaths, etc.. we see deviations from Fisher's principle. There really is no etc.. The only thing that can change the 50/50 distribution is death. Even if a majority of the male population were to become celibate the 50/50 would not change because the birth ratio would remain constant. TRP argues that cultural attitudes towards men are based on inherited traits which increased genetic fitness in the past, no? No you are taking far too of a scientific point of view. The basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:58 PM
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Name some hentai traits. I bet the comport with the overarching stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:59 AM
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You're mistaking the theory. Yes, woman look for all those traits. TRP divides them into two categories AF and BB. The former comprise the traits that lead to sexual attraction. The latter signal a way for the woman to extract some sort of resource (time, attention, money). A woman might enjoy a loyal and devoted man but only as a provider. (Of attention, time, resources, etc.) Not a sexual object. To be viewed sexually they need to display some of the AF traits. Ideally a woman gets all in one …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:55 AM
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TRP talks about how women are ideally looking for a AF/BB all in one package. But if they don't find it the compromise and seek the roles in multiple partners. Thus it makes perfect sense the books would involve both. That doesn't change the fact that women are attracted to AF. Which is the whole point of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:52 AM
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According to my speculation above, poor resource-stricken societies would favor men as indicated by a lower male/female ratio. To my surprise I found that I was approaching this completely in the wrong way. My mistake, and TRP's mistake, was assuming that evolution will select for behaviors that increase reproductive success of society. This is not the case. According to my speculation above, poor resource-stricken societies would favor men as indicated by a lower male/female ratio. To my surpri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:23 AM
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Besides the fact that you're misinterpreting what they mean by disposability, you're also missing the obvious: regardless of reproduction success or optimization, the female and male birth rates are nearly 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:34 AM
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Sometimes its worth it if you care about your kids. If she's fine with an open relationship then its at least a tenable situation.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 11:58 PM
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What he's trying to explain to you is that the primitive brain uses youth and beauty as a proxy for ability to reproduce. That's why men seek out young women. It's hardwired into the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:44 PM
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Professional journal on one hand. Word press article on the other. Who do I trust?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:04 PM
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http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:57 PM
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Do we really improve the quality of life? The stats show suicide rates tend to go up post surgery. The way to help these people is get them to accept (1) their have a mental illness, and (2) their physical body. In what other context do we validate a mental patient's delusions and call that "therapy"? It just seems so backwards from an objective perspective. The problem is we can't even start on step (1) because that would go against the progressive agenda and be seen as discriminatory. What poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:47 PM
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Just make sure your lifts continue to go up and you'll be fine even if you have to cut a little bit on the back end. Or you could check out leangains (there's a sub on reddit that I would link but for the TRP bot) if you prefer not to have to bulk/cut cycle.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 05:18 AM
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He didn't really gain 20 pounds. Even if the scale says that. First 5-10 pounds on a bulk/cut is just water retention/loss.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 01:51 AM
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You're reading my mind on so many levels. When I read people say that feminism is taking over and women are now in charge I fucking laugh. Do they not realize the real people in charge are implementing this backwards ideology in order to raise generations of submissive beta males? They want the hierarchy to be them --> women --> men. Because they know they can always control the women. The problem would be dissenting males with balls. In that light, TRP is their worst nightmare and MGTOW is thei…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 05:01 AM
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That's actually Chappelle but point stands.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 04:54 AM
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I had an ex that did the same thing "you're too skinny" "you're body is amazing". It was easy to see it was her insecurity about her weight. In the end it could be either. OP should be able to analyze the situation.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 12:34 PM
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The other aspect is that the more in shape you get the more insecure she gets. You must remember from her view, everything in the world is only relevant as it is in reference to her. Solipisom.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 07:58 AM
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Downvoting you is stupid but expected. I don't expect politicians to "change their mind" their mind is straight up for sale to the highest bidder. Agree to disagree.
/r/MensRights29/06/15 04:15 AM
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I wish I could be as optimistic as you. My experience has taught me otherwise.
/r/MensRights29/06/15 04:01 AM
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In the case of politicians, they just need to see some green.
/r/MensRights29/06/15 03:52 AM
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And then it turns out the apples on the bottom layers aren't even apples at all they are just delicious pears that some idiot mistook for apples.
/r/MensRights29/06/15 03:34 AM
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I think his point is technology is growing to the point where we won't have scarcity or a need for beta resources. If you assume that presumption then I think you can understand his logic. That being said, I mostly agree with the points you're making here.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/15 09:33 PM
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Reading shit like this blows my fucking mind. Its outrageous. Tell your parents about this. This should be in the news. Absolutely unacceptable.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 11:34 PM
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Sex drives a bit different. Its the chemical designed to say IDGAF and bust a nut above all else.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 02:49 PM
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The main reason is because their happiness is dependent on other people so they cannot fathom the concept of being alone and happy.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 02:37 AM
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It's human nature but I agree, rise above.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/15 02:12 AM
0

You got that waste of time right, bud.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/15 06:15 AM
2

What are billionaires assets usually held in? Stocks and real estate. Stocks are relatively liquid. Real estate can be managed by a real estate company and/or sold.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/15 04:30 AM
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Or you could have your money managed by some multi-billion dollar hedge fund who have deep pockets. Just because some people are stupid in managing their money doesn't mean everyone is. Hell, if you really wanted to you could invest your entire fortune in a stock index. That pretty much guarantees you a decent rate of return unless, you know, the entire capitalist system were to collapse. Or if you are the ultimate of lazy, you could keep it all in the bank and live off the millions of dollars o…
/r/TheRedPill19/06/15 02:47 AM
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Who said anything about an employer-employee relationship? Its a professional-client relationship. One that carries fiduciary duties, which if breached would result in a lawsuit.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/15 02:17 AM
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This is just based off personal experience but I've yet to date a woman who didn't want to be "taken" and women generally seem happiest when I'm making the decisions so long as they trust me (RP would call this viewing me as an alpha). The idea of dominance is also appealing because of the mystery aspect as well as the not needing to do anything aspect. That an irony of d/s the sub is the one being catered to for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:26 PM
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I've been known to switch from time to time. But I think we can agree the default is mdom/fsub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:16 PM
1

First, who said anything about olympics? The fact is they base their whole platform off special treatment. I'd rather have policies that help as many people as possible. They are just diametrically opposed to my fundamental view on government and society. Second, for the most part privilege isn't real (pussy pass and affirmative action are examples of real privilege). Privilege implies beneficial treatment. What you're really seeing, if anything at all, is discriminatory treatment the other way.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:52 PM
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The ironic thing is that its the liberals who are against equal treatment these days. The progressive view of "equality" is actually treating everyone differently. What you get to do is play the game of "who's the most oppressed" and based on your oppression quotient you get more and more special treatment. The other side of the coin is that according to the progressives, as a SWM I should repent for my original sin of being born with so much privilege. And people wonder why I wouldn't want to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:31 PM
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Based on a plethora of personal experience nothing gets a girls panties wetter than when she can simultaneously trust you and you "dominate" her. I put it in quotes because for each girl that will be different as to how you effectuate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:20 PM
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Only everything he said still applies. You can hire people to manage your money and pay them six-figures off what amounts to rounding errors.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/15 08:13 AM
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Once you make it a habit it becomes an addiction. I make sure to pray at the temple of Brodin as much as possible. My life depends on it.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/15 07:47 AM
1

Which do you know more of Men who love work Men who hate work Women who love work Women who hate work
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 11:46 PM
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I know plenty of men that derive immense happiness from work. Some to the point that these men's entire lives are consumed by their occupation. I don't know any women like this. Instead almost every woman I know complains about work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 10:47 PM
4

You can get child support without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 10:41 PM
2

Why would the children effect your views on the necessity of getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 10:38 PM
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The idea that marriage provides tax benefits is a fallacy for any couple that has two incomes and makes over something like $80-90k combined (at one point I calculated break even but forgot the exact figure). Over that it starts becoming a detriment and you'd be better of filing single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 10:37 PM
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If your only interest is self-preservation what gives a higher likelihood of success? Continuing to go against the grain or apologizing? Either way I agree. Fuck apologizing.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 09:56 PM
1

Oh, don't get me wrong I think he made the right choice as far as self-preservation goes.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 07:28 PM
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I already told you. I wouldn't have apologized because the result would be the same either way. I would have responded in a cold and calculated matter something like "my comment is based off decades worth of experience". And I would have forced them to fire me. Then again I'm principled to a fault.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 06:15 AM
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I definitely understand how it works. Obviously the politicians don't that doesn't change my point. Who do you think puts those scientists on those boards? Who do you think really makes the decisions? Are you really suggesting none of this research is of economic value? And for the ones that aren't its why we have other nonprofit groups. The government doesn't need to fund any of this stuff really.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 06:13 AM
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That's all you should do. And should you feel the need to express your opinion, remember that FB is one of the shittiest and least effective venues to do so.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 02:59 AM
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He has a point though. He shouldn't have resigned. He shouldn't have apologized. He should have taken a stand.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 02:57 AM
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Perhaps you're incapable of perceiving the connection. I forgive you. In the mean time, try not to denigrate those who do.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 02:55 AM
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Who said anything about tax payer funding. Are you suggesting the private sector is incapable of funding research? They may promote science but only on their terms. They will only fund things that further their agenda. Its completely one-sided.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 02:53 AM
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To the progressives everything is a social construct. Biological predisposition doesn't exist i.e. everything is nurture no nature. This "fact" must be true if they are to go forward with the rest of their agenda e.g. privilege, pay-gap, stem-gap, etc. etc. etc. If it weren't there would be alternative explanations for all of these things other than their oppression rallying cry. Their views also comes from a place of moral superiority. Because of that, factual evidence to the contrary aren't fa…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 02:48 AM
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Hasn't the battle been partially lost if you're no longer able to voice your opinion in public? I think the French resistance fighter is quite telling. Nevertheless I think I agree with your sentiment.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 02:43 AM
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I know its difficult not to want to be the voice of reason but you really have nothing to gain other than personal satisfaction.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 02:41 AM
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Its because their beliefs stem from a sense of moral superiority. When they think so low of you, even to consider you inhuman, its easy to degrade and insult you.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 03:06 AM
5

Horseshoe theory
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 08:53 PM
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I'm glad he didn't back down even when issuing an "apology" which basically boiled down to "I'm sorry I said this in front of people who would repeat it but I'm not sorry for the comment and here's why."
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 04:45 PM
2

You started it!! Mom!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:17 PM
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No you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:10 PM
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Didn't mean to imply that. I don't really blame tho and instead I really feel bad for these girls who spend their 20s building up a career. They get pushed into it by society and will either end up shamed for not doing it or depressed for doing it. An unenviable position and just goes to show how backwards our society is becoming.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 05:06 PM
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Intelligence is also important in a potential LTR but then again that's associated with personality.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 04:06 PM
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There's no way to confuse the results. Either you bag the plate or you don't. There's no cheating. Its like conducting an experiment to see if water boils. Either it does or it doesn't. Either she spreads her legs or she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 03:55 PM
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What is the scientific method? Observe, hypothesize, experiment, conclude. Is that not what TRP does? Most people agree but then say something like "confirmation bias blah blah". What isn't susceptible to confirmation bias? TRP is a social science in any sense of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 04:46 AM
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At this point you're doing my work for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 01:18 AM
4

With your dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 01:02 AM
3

I liken this question to a Chris Rock line in Bigger and Blacker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 01:01 AM
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Agree and amplify done right. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 12:58 AM
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Perhaps you didn't read this part: but now she’s 33 she feels entitled that a man should marry her, and if he doesn’t, hes labelled as “weak or intimidated by her sexual past because hes insecure that he wont be good enough in bed as the previous men shes fucked” I know its at the end and you probably rushed to post after reading only a few sentences. Next time try to read the whole post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 12:52 AM
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That's because progressive mentality paints women as these angelic infallible creatures that will love you for who you are if you just give them tons of attention and do things for them! This is what being BP is all about at its core. RP is about realizing the truth which ironically you've pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 12:51 AM
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Its the opposite of MGTOW. The whole post is about how women should subjugate men and take away all of their rights. MGTOW is about ignoring the opposite sex and enjoying oneself. I'm not sure how you could get any of that from TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 12:48 AM
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Right, because they are advocating for taking away property rights from women and rounding them up to exclude them from society. This is more like a feminist version of the Third Reich.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 12:47 AM
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It depends what the ethical consequences are. In this case, the ethical consequences of understanding evolution are not negative, so there's no reason to not research evolution. Now you're either moving the goal posts or being purposefully obtuse. You wrote: "morality is a key component of any debate." Clearly that is not the case and I have provided you multiple examples proving that. Care to concede that point? Then why are you here? To sharpen or destroy my beliefs by pitting them against non…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 05:31 AM
1

All morality is subjective, Outside the scope of my comment but I tend to (virtually) agree. Either way it doesn't effect the statements I made. but it's still derived from logic. Not always. As you stated morality is subjective. Subjectiveness can only be quasi-logical but it is not objectively logical i.e. morality may follow some sort of internal logic that is subjectively credible but it is not universally logical insofar as other sets of (equally or more credible) logic can be used to discr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 02:10 AM
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The thing is if you have an objective, logic debate devoid of things like subjective morality and personal attacks you invariably can only reach one conclusion. Thus their choice is either convert or become willfully ignorant lest the suffer from high degrees of cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:48 PM
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The first thing I said still applies. TRP does not even mention the 80/20 distribution for women. I'm not some TRP spokesperson. We don't all have some hivemind or secret meeting where we all determine our points of view. I don't need statistical models. I can easily go based off the actual people I know in real life. Of the hundreds upon hundreds of men I know personally. They fall into three categories: Married or LTR Large group of guys who almost never get action Small group of guys who get …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 07:04 AM
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The top 20% of women are only selecting the top 20% of men (or perhaps even lower 5-10%) whereas the top 20% of men are selecting from a larger % and having a larger total amount of sex. So for men its 20/80 and for women its 20/5. The more attractive a woman gets the more selective she becomes. The more attractive a man gets the more quantity he obtains. This is literally biologically encoded into men (unlimited semen) and women (limited eggs) after millions of years of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 05:05 AM
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Just watch the video. He explains mating patterns pretty damn well, in a comedic fashion to boot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 04:06 AM
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You're thinking of it wrong its that the 80/20 rule applies to total instances of sex. Who they are having it with is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 04:05 AM
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Just because I say X applies to Y doesn't mean X only applies to Y. For example: The statement "all chefs wear white hats" doesn't imply that only chefs wear white hats. This is basic logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 01:00 AM
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Did you ever see TRP say that 80/20 doesn't apply to women as well? No. Another aspect you are missing is that while a man's opinion of a woman's attractiveness is mostly based on her appearance, while things like her job, education, hobbies, etc. are almost irrelevant you'll see the opposite is true for women's view of men insofar as those things that don't matter to the man (job, education, hobbies) are super important to the woman. This guy explains it damn well: https://www.youtube.com/watch…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 11:44 PM
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That was just to show the spectrum of possibilities. That being said, you don't have agree with everyone in a community to be a part of it. In my view, if you understand the nature of woman to be what progressive society tells you (rainbows and sunshine) then you are BP if you understand their true nature (manipulative and self serving) then you are RP. Just as in the matrix you are either plugged in or you're not. There's no limbo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 11:36 PM
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It all depends on how you define BP. Narrow definition: BP is someone who is actively aware of TRP yet refuse to take it and instead opt to take the BP. Mezzanine definition: BP is someone who exhibits a certain set of stereotypical qualities but need not consciously refute TRP. Broad definition: BP is anyone who is not actively taking TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 05:12 PM
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Focusing purely on consent has a some major problems: Consent is generally not a defense to any crime Measuring consent ex post facto cannot be done through objective means Thus if only consent is used then anyone can claim they were raped and the proceedings would devolve into a he said/she said. This is untenable and ripe for abuse. Let's take a look at the legal defition of rape: A criminal offense defined in most states as forcible sexual relations with a person against that person's will. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 05:03 PM
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