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Bro... are you sure you really took the time to look at your own behavior during all of that? I mean, were you actually paying attention to how you were acting and how you were feeling while dating that many women? Because from what you're telling me, you're talking a lot more about women cheating than about your own experience. Those choices have consequences. Anyone who's dated a large number of people for a long period of time will usually tell you that. And I'm not saying this to criticize y…
/r/seduction24/07/26 02:44 PM
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Hey, if you ever do end up writing your guide or manual, don't forget to include the downside of constantly dating so many women—and how empty it can leave you after a while. There are already way too many people out here selling that lifestyle as if it's nothing but a win, when there's another side to it that hardly anyone talks about.
/r/seduction24/07/26 11:00 AM
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I've had quite a few car hookups this year. One thing that still works is kino—basically, escalating things gradually. Start with kissing (a lot of it). As you're kissing, slowly increase the physical contact: touch her shoulders, her waist, her legs, and gradually move closer to more intimate areas. If she doesn't move your hand away, or if she places her hand on yours instead, that's usually a sign she's comfortable with the escalation. Later, you can guide her hand toward your crotch and let …
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:44 PM
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One of the biggest things that makes people want something more is scarcity. You probably see women every day that you'd rate as a 5 or 6, and they don't really catch your attention. But the moment you see a woman who's way above your usual standard, your mind starts putting her on a pedestal. You asked how to stop idealizing women. Honestly, the best way is to keep going on dates and meeting different women consistently. Over time, you'll realize that looks stop being the main thing you value. …
/r/seduction23/07/26 10:49 AM
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In my case, what helped the most was simply going out and meeting women. Social media just made that easier. For example, you go out to eat, post a picture of the place, maybe another one where it's obvious you're with someone. People start seeing that you're social, that you actually go out and have a life. Whether we like it or not, that shapes how they perceive you. And from my experience, women are constantly projecting and imagining what being with you would be like, even if some of them de…
/r/seduction17/07/26 02:47 PM
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You're speaking from very limited, if not almost no, personal experience. I get that talking to your friends can help answer some questions, but a lot of people here will tell you the same thing: the more real dating experience you have, the easier it becomes to connect with women.
/r/seduction16/07/26 08:34 PM
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I get what you mean. A lot of the women I've gone out with this year started with the whole "No kissing or sex on the first date" thing, but attraction isn't always that easy to ignore, and we both know how some of those dates ended. That said, I think you did the right thing by being upfront about "not looking for anything serious." If that's genuinely what you want, stay consistent with it. Just remember: people aren't computers. You can't press "yes" or "no" and expect everything to follow a …
/r/seduction16/07/26 04:54 PM
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Biology plays a big role in this. Even if she says, "It's fine, I just want sex," part of her is still going to look for a way to avoid feeling used or disposable. That's something you should always keep in mind when you're getting involved with someone. And honestly, this goes both ways. Men and women can both end up feeling that way. As for your situation, I think the drama is probably going to continue. Sooner or later she'll likely cut off the interaction anyway. You're better off letting he…
/r/seduction16/07/26 04:42 PM
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"Coaches: Share their wealth of knowledge." 😂 Bro, that's exactly my point—they don't. And if they do share something, it's usually half the story. They just keep repeating what other coaches have already said, and most of them can't even explain why it works. There's no real foundation behind what they're teaching. I'm not saying every coach is clueless. I'm sure there are people who genuinely know their stuff and have a deep understanding of dating and attraction. That's not who I'm talking ab…
/r/seduction16/07/26 10:51 AM
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Just like the previous comment mentioned, "she's gonna waste your time." Honestly, replying after she stood you up or left you on read for the date wasn't really necessary. My advice? Don't send anything else right now. Leave the message alone, go back to your normal routine, keep doing your own thing, and if you want, date other people. The fact that she made plans to meet before does show there was some level of attraction or interest, but clearly not enough. Give it a few days or even a coupl…
/r/seduction13/07/26 02:54 PM
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That's exactly it, bro. A while back I read someone say, "Women tend to be more cyclical, while men are more linear," and honestly, that lines up with what you're talking about. On top of that, I think social media has made it even worse. It keeps feeding people dopamine hits and anxiety, and that ends up affecting how they act in dating. I honestly wish more guys would learn about this stuff. Every day I see men reacting emotionally to every little thing a woman does, and all they're really doi…
/r/seduction13/07/26 10:49 AM
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I'm speaking from experience—both with the women I'm still seeing and the ones I've dated before. I don't really like throwing numbers around, but this year alone I've met around 30 different women, and last year it was probably more than twice that. I get your point, but all that philosophy without actually getting out there and dating is just that... philosophy. When it comes to dating and relationships, expectations are usually what create this idealized version of someone in your head. And h…
/r/seduction08/07/26 07:55 PM
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Most people value what they don't have or what becomes hard to get. Do they come back? Yeah. But that's also what messes a lot of guys up. They think, "She probably came back because now she finally appreciates me." Wrong. She didn't come back because of you. She came back because of her. And honestly, when they do come back, it's usually not worth going through that whole attention-and-chasing process all over again. Just reply like it's no big deal. Be cool, be friendly, and don't complain abo…
/r/seduction08/07/26 01:18 PM
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From what I can see, you're worrying too much about getting rejected in the future — a rejection that only exists in your head right now. First, ask yourself: What did I like about this girl? What topics got her excited? What things is she into? If you paid attention and asked enough questions on the first date, the second one becomes way easier. For example, if she says, "I've always loved paintings and art," just keep that in mind. Then later it's simple: "Hey, there's an art exhibition this T…
/r/seduction24/06/26 04:54 PM
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I appreciate your perspective, especially coming from someone who's interacted with a lot of women. That said, I think you're leaving out one side of what it's like to constantly be approaching and meeting new women. At some point, it starts feeling like you're playing a character. Even if you're successful, keeping that up over and over again can become exhausting, and honestly, I don't think it's sustainable long term. What surprises me the most is that after that many experiences, you still f…
/r/seduction11/06/26 02:55 PM
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I've been through this myself, and I think it's one of those things people rarely talk about in the seduction community. After a while, it becomes repetitive and predictable. Sure, when you first figure it out and it works, it's amazing. What you're dealing with now is something bigger, though. It's like there's a whole system behind it that programmed you to believe there's always something better out there. Social media only makes it worse because you're constantly looking for validation. What…
/r/seduction10/06/26 01:30 PM
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Good post, but I think you barely scratched the surface haha—this could easily be a whole podcast. The main issue is that most guys who are just starting to date are way too logical, which makes them reactive. Situations like the one you mentioned—“you probably say that to everyone”—that’s her fishing for reassurance, not accusing you… that happens all the time. And honestly, it doesn’t always come out that directly, but it’s still there. At first, the way women communicate can feel complicated,…
/r/seduction21/04/26 05:04 PM
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So far this year I’ve been on around 20 first dates. I don’t even remember last year exactly—probably about double that, not counting second or third dates with the same women. And yeah, with most of them it got physical. But now, at 28, I’m kinda over it. It doesn’t really surprise me anymore—the patterns, the behaviors, all of it. Everything started to feel predictable. With the experience I had, I could create a need and then be the one to fill it… and they wouldn’t even notice. The more time…
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:11 AM
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most guys think there’s some fixed sequence with women—like text, date, sex, relationship (a lot of them really think like that)? When in reality, women tend to be more cyclical in how they feel—she might be cold today, and 8–9 days later be way more affectionate with you. How many guys have messed up a good connection by rushing things… or by getting stuck in that “she probably has another guy” mindset? Most of the time, that’s not even true.
/r/seduction16/04/26 07:13 PM
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From my experience, saying something like “let’s meet Friday night” can come off as a bit too obvious — especially if there were kisses at the end of the last date. That’s when they kind of switch into what we call here the “good girl” mode — like not wanting to come across as too easy or anything like that. So if she rejects that day, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal — there are still chances. In my case, I actually like going out on Fridays for a first date (I’ve had around 26 so far this…
/r/seduction24/03/26 05:55 PM
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Bro, I get your point, but to me it feels like with this post you’re going for the whole “look, if I did it, you can too” angle — and that’s not for everyone. Sure, for most guys those numbers might sound impressive, but as someone who’s more or less around those same numbers, you’re not really talking about the downsides or the consequences that come with it.
/r/seduction24/03/26 12:22 PM
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As someone who goes on first dates pretty often, I’ll be real — from the outside this sounds like “wow, that’s motivating,” but when you’re actually in it, it’s not entirely true. I’ve gone out with women who, after a first or second date, suddenly went cold. I didn’t push it, but after a few weeks I reached out again, the conversation picked back up, and we ended up going out again. Don’t take everything as a fixed rule. These are women — most of their behavior is cyclical, not linear.
/r/seduction23/03/26 10:55 AM
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" Long story short we got each others instagrams and plan to meet up soon :)" We already know how it ends, right?
/r/seduction19/03/26 07:31 PM
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I always thought the whole “just be yourself” idea was kind of mediocre, but honestly, I think it needs a different perspective. You can learn seduction, social skills, techniques — all of that. But if applying those means completely changing your personality, that’s where you create inconsistency within yourself. “Be yourself” shouldn’t be taken as “just relax, someone will eventually love you as you are.” It should mean becoming a better man every day — and that should naturally include learni…
/r/seduction18/03/26 08:37 PM
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Bro, are you seriously comparing how women behave at your workplace with how relationships work in general? Come on, I don’t think you’re that naive. I get your point, but outside of that environment there are plenty of women who will interpret your actions as “nice guy” or “bad boy” without you even realizing it. What really matters is understanding female behavior and knowing when to act in your interactions.
/r/seduction18/03/26 07:36 PM
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I read that post too haha. And while it makes sense that you shouldn’t be predictable, I’ve seen firsthand that even if you become the guy who makes her feel the most emotions — you could take her somewhere crazy like a spontaneous trip to Indonesia or do all kinds of exciting activities — she can still go home and the next day talk to you like you’re just a friend, a coworker, or just another guy she knows. It often comes down to her inability to feel something deeper. She ends up saying, “I li…
/r/seduction13/03/26 06:04 PM
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That’s exactly what I meant too. Unfortunately, sometimes we run into people who are damaged — people who’ve been through bad experiences or past relationship trauma — and in many cases there’s really nothing we can do about it. I’ve also seen some men take on the role of the “healer.” I’m not saying that’s necessarily wrong, but realistically the chances of that working are pretty low. And by the time you realize it, you may have already invested a lot of time and energy that simply wasn’t wort…
/r/seduction13/03/26 05:54 PM
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“Texts are for logistics and to keep the person warm between dates.” That’s what people tend to preach nowadays. And honestly, I apply it too. I can invite almost any woman I’ve gone out with before, and most of them would probably go out with me again. But that’s not really the issue. The real problem is the comfort some women end up having with that dynamic. It becomes something like: “I don’t have to worry or invest much, because he’ll eventually invite me out again anyway.” For some guys tha…
/r/seduction13/03/26 05:28 PM
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Even if a girl likes you, if she’s not available for a relationship, you could go on 30 dates and it still won’t turn into anything serious.
/r/seduction12/03/26 11:38 AM
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I disagree with the point about women not “accepting a second or third date.” As men, we usually think in a more progressive or linear way — something like (kissing, touching, making out, sex). But with women it doesn’t work the same way. They tend to be more cyclical, which means there are a lot of factors that can make them cancel a second date. There isn’t really a strict rule like “touching is something only teenagers do” or anything like that. Where I do see a big mistake is in the timing. …
/r/seduction10/03/26 07:58 PM
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I agree with your comment, and yeah… that’s what tends to work. I’m not a fan of the idea of pretending to be someone you’re not either (and I don’t do that), but looking at how some women interact with certain guys nowadays, that type of man “wins,” so to speak. Of course, we already know where that usually ends up — once the woman realizes the guy isn’t congruent, it’s headed straight for a breakup.
/r/seduction03/03/26 02:46 PM
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This used to happen to me a lot when I first started dating — like two years ago. This year I’ve gone out with more women, and it doesn’t happen as often anymore. But I see it here all the time now, like it’s almost “normal.” My real question is: is there any way to avoid the classic post–first date ghosting? And I mean without getting into manipulation or those not-so-morally-acceptable tactics that, yeah, I know can work. For a while I thought it was about timing — not waiting too long to ask …
/r/seduction03/03/26 02:41 PM
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“And honestly, the bigger fix is just having other women in your life.” That’s exactly the conclusion I’ve come to after so much experience. Even if it doesn’t feel like the most “healthy” way to approach things, it’s crazy how my dating results basically pushed me toward having multiple women available in my life. I wish there were another way, but honestly… I don’t think there is.
/r/seduction03/03/26 02:16 PM
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I think what he was getting at is more about what actually “works” — and in some cases, that’s not always morally accepted. What you’re describing might be one of the healthiest ways to build something, but in practice it doesn’t always get results. That said, when it does work, the quality tends to be much higher.
/r/seduction03/03/26 02:11 PM
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When she says, “However, she mentioned this date is to see if “we could be friends or if there is a romantic spark,” that sounds more like a preemptive move — almost like she’s saying, “Don’t fall for me too fast.” In other words, she’s calibrating the level of interest between you two. Try not to step into that frame. At the end of the day, as a man, you’re the one who should be leading the interaction — and that includes being aware of how she’s feeling in the moment and adjusting accordingly.
/r/seduction27/02/26 06:53 PM
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I think this part explains it really well: “I ASSUME that every girl will like me. I have it in my mind that I’m hilarious, attractive, and the best option for any girl, because my energy is amazing.” I think that ties a lot into the confidence you carry with you. In my case, I try not to consciously think like that. But realistically, a lot of the women I’ve gone out with this year end up proving that point by coming back and reaching out again after some time. At the end of the day, I believe …
/r/seduction27/02/26 11:04 AM
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Sorry, bro, but “If I had a stronger jaw or more muscle this wouldn’t be happening” — what does that even have to do with it? 😂 Not every woman is into “gigachads.” In fact, a lot of them actually avoid those types. Focus on learning seduction — not to memorize techniques, but to understand how to make a woman feel something when you’re around her.
/r/seduction13/02/26 11:24 AM
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If you only knew… most of those “better-looking guys” are actually terrible at flirting — seriously, to the point of being straight-up unpleasant. So it’s not something you should even worry about. I know this because girls I go out with show me the messages they get, and my god… And yeah, approaching people in places like the gym, cafés, etc., doesn’t guarantee you’ll meet someone “high quality,” but it will make you more social and help you build real self-esteem. Do it not to “qualify” for so…
/r/seduction10/02/26 07:42 PM
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When you start with something like “so in order to keep your girlfriend,” you’re already mixing things up with the advice some people give. If she’s your girlfriend, then yeah — of course you should be exclusive with your messaging and attention. What someone with experience knows is that when you’re just getting to know a girl, you shouldn’t get stuck over-texting in those early messages. Do just enough to steer the conversation toward setting up a first date — that’s the point
/r/seduction10/02/26 07:34 PM
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I’ve had more than half of what you’ve had, and bro… holy shit, it’s exhausting. I honestly thought I was the only one who started finding it boring after a certain number of women.
/r/seduction06/02/26 05:59 PM
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Back in college I had very few relationships with women — maybe three at most. After graduating and doing better at work, I started learning about seduction through books, videos, and all that. Last year alone I went on around 30 to 40 first dates, and judging by how this year is starting, I’ll probably double that number — and I didn’t even start until I was 27.
/r/seduction05/02/26 10:50 AM
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" she makes it difficult for me "there’s no such thing as a difficult woman, she’s just not that into you.
/r/seduction04/02/26 02:31 PM
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It’s not something weird — she’s just not interested in having a second date with you. A lot of times, a second date gets set up during the first one because of the emotions she’s feeling in the moment. Once that fades, she usually cancels. So what do you do with that? What I do from that point on is stop seeing her as a relationship candidate. I see her more as someone I might hang out with spontaneously when we both have time. It’s important to make that distinction so you don’t get emotionall…
/r/seduction02/02/26 03:22 PM
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You nailed it, my bro. And something else I think about in these cases, when people share their stories, is this: if you hadn’t been texting that girl so often — if instead you hit her up, say, a month later just to ask her out — wouldn’t you actually be accomplishing your goal of creating a bit of scarcity so that this date could turn intimate? The thing is, it’s not even really about “ghosting.” On the guy’s side, there isn’t that much interest. On the woman’s side, there isn’t either — but th…
/r/seduction30/01/26 01:27 PM
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Honestly, I’d never looked at it that way before — probably just a lack of experience on my part — but yeah, I do think phone calls add a bit more familiarity, especially when you’re coming from dating apps. In my case, for example, I have a long commute from work, and on the way back I’ll start calling the girl I’m texting at the moment. It’s crazy how much easier setting up the date becomes after that.
/r/seduction30/01/26 11:37 AM
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My point wasn’t really about how to get a lot of dates — there are plenty of ways to do that: approaching in person, apps, Instagram, whatever. What I’m really getting at is how some guys treat the first date like the start of a relationship, and that’s super counterproductive. I mean, are you seriously going to fall for every person you meet? What I want to tell some guys is basically: bro, slow down.
/r/seduction30/01/26 11:04 AM
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Fuck, that’s exactly it, bro — that’s what I was getting at. We run a thousand dynamics thinking “this will make her fall for me,” “this will get me laid,” and we completely forget to actually enjoy ourselves.
/r/seduction29/01/26 08:11 PM
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I also wanted to add this: I’ve read a bunch of comments here saying that you have to be in a relationship first for sex to happen, but that’s not even true in many cases. So many potential sexual partners were missed by a lot of men (myself included) simply because, at some point, we showed desperation.
/r/seduction29/01/26 07:51 PM
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I swear, bro, you can have sex with women without ever having to sell them on the idea of being your girlfriend — which is something a lot of men have been doing for years just to get there. Yeah, in some cases it takes time, but it’s definitely possible.
/r/seduction29/01/26 07:47 PM
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I swear, bro, at one point — between dating women and reading comments — this hit me like a bucket of cold water: “Men get emotionally involved way faster than women.” And you know what the worst part is? It just keeps getting worse really fast.
/r/seduction29/01/26 07:42 PM
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I don’t think she’s playing games, but she’s also not showing that much interest in you — and that’s not something you should take personally. Just go out with her if you have the time, enjoy it, and don’t get too emotionally invested (you already know how that goes).
/r/seduction28/01/26 07:35 PM
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I’ve gone on dates with women I had to double-text. But here’s the point: from that moment on, I no longer see them as potential partners, only as someone to casually spend time with—and from what I’ve noticed, they feel the same way. That’s why there’s no real emotional attachment. For me, inconsistent communication is a lack of respect, and I refuse to worry about attracting someone at all costs.
/r/seduction28/01/26 01:00 PM
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I understand your point because I reached the same conclusion a long time ago. In fact, transitioning into a monogamous relationship while you’re used to constant “rotation” isn’t that easy either. Now, beyond personal voids—which I think most men have in one way or another—it’s ultimately our responsibility to acknowledge them and deal with them ourselves.
/r/seduction27/01/26 03:29 PM
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Part of it is having options — in some cases, what people call “rotation.” Someone who is already full isn’t going to chase crumbs.
/r/seduction27/01/26 02:59 PM
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I get you, because I’ve been in your position a few times myself. And honestly, the only real way is to tell the woman how you feel — saying something like, “I feel like tonight with you we could take things a bit further,” or something along those lines. Yeah, it might sound a little awkward, but that’s exactly the point: stepping out of that “safe frame” you’re both stuck in. Kissing all night is fine, of course, but there are moments when you have to be a bit more direct. Otherwise, you just …
/r/seduction22/01/26 11:09 AM
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you should really make a post about that — seriously, it’s great advice. I’ve been applying it for a while now, and it really works.
/r/seduction14/01/26 11:29 AM
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that whole “Didn’t you come here a few days ago with another date?” thing has already happened to me, haha. But it really depends on the person working there. Either way, I already have my “special spot,” so to speak — a place where I know I’ll have a good time. On top of that, I became friends with the bartender and I’d always leave a good tip so he’d save me the best seat at the bar.
/r/seduction12/01/26 01:21 PM
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A filter isn’t something “standard.” It’s about the kind of person you want by your side — someone you can grow with. For example, some women don’t text much, but if you ask them out, they’re down every time. Then you ask yourself: Do I want someone who checks in on me every day? If the answer is yes, there’s your filter. Obviously, don’t take this to extremes. We’re not looking for perfection — at the end of the day, we’re dealing with human beings. Other filters could be things like: not party…
/r/seduction08/01/26 05:31 PM
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Lol, wtf man? Are you really blaming someone else here? Anyone who actually understands “game” knows you don’t flirt with a coworker. No one recommends doing this in your immediate environment — and definitely not at your workplace, the place that literally pays your bills. Just own the consequences and move on. Don’t blame others for your mistake
/r/seduction08/01/26 04:51 PM
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Actually, no. Lately you’ll see more and more independent women — sometimes even more independent than men, haha. In the past, it was believed that money alone would attract women. And yes, it attracts some… but only the ones who are interested in that, the ones who won’t really add much value to your life.
/r/seduction08/01/26 10:57 AM
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Bro, something I learned after meeting quite a lot of women is that a woman who truly wants something serious with you will take care of your money — meaning she won’t make you spend on pointless things. In fact, sometimes she’ll have no problem paying for a date herself. Now, is it hard to find women like that? Of course it is. At first, they’ll usually be quite insecure, but as you get to know each other, she’ll start to feel safer with you. I know you feel like money is a fundamental factor —…
/r/seduction07/01/26 08:16 PM
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Man, I can’t tell you how many times this happened to me after a “perfect” date, lol. Honestly, from what you described, you didn’t do anything wrong at all. You liked the girl, and that’s totally fine. What you need to understand is that you’re going to meet women who are into you, attracted to you, and still not willing to have a relationship with you. That can be for a bunch of reasons, and from what I’ve seen, one of the biggest ones is unresolved past trauma that creates a lot of anxiety fo…
/r/seduction06/01/26 01:50 PM
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I went on around 35 first dates last year, and honestly, I’m surprised you’re not getting second or third dates. In my case, most of the women I went out with were the ones suggesting a second date. Some of them even told me they wanted something serious with me, which is why your situation really surprises me.
/r/seduction05/01/26 01:03 PM
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Here are two points. First, try to create some kind of connection with the woman you approach — find something in common, like a hobby, work, or anything really. This usually comes from asking good questions and actually talking to her. Walking up to someone and asking for her number after two minutes doesn’t work with everyone, and it can even backfire, because it can feel like you do the same thing with every girl. Second, the fact that she kept talking to you is a sign that she felt a bit bad…
/r/seduction30/12/25 07:39 PM
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I go on at least two dates a week, and I still feel just as unsatisfied — I can’t even imagine how it must feel in your case. Take a break. Trust me, you need it. You’re putting way too much unnecessary pressure on yourself
/r/seduction19/12/25 11:54 AM
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As someone who’s gone on around 20 first dates this year, let me shut that mindset down real quick. Having 40 women chasing you doesn’t automatically mean you’re “better.” I’ve seen cases where guys like that were actually more miserable. Stay calm in these situations, always. And under no circumstances let people on the outside mess with your self-esteem. And what’s this about “my friends often make fun of me for it”??? Man, in my group I’ve dated more women than all of them combined, and it ne…
/r/seduction19/12/25 11:19 AM
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I’ve read or listened to like 30 books from different authors about dating and relationships, but let me tell you this: your situation with women won’t change just because you sit down and read for an hour. The real learning happens out in the world. I’m saying this as someone who’s had around 20–30 dates in a year. I also see every day how guys struggle to interpret situations, and that’s where books do help — they lay out the problem in a bigger, clearer way
/r/seduction01/12/25 08:10 PM
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I always use them, but yeah, there were a few times when women told me “it’s fine without.” Still… I put one on anyway.
/r/seduction24/11/25 11:53 AM
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For me it took like a year or two. Once I learned how this whole seduction thing works, my dates shot up. These last few months I’ve gone out with, what, around 20 different women And yeah—lost count of how many times I got rejected, lol.
/r/seduction20/11/25 11:54 AM
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As someone who’s been on like twenty dates this year, my main advice is: don’t bottle up what you’re feeling in the moment. On a date it’s normal to get mixed signals or feel thrown off by what the other person does. Reading signs is just practice, nothing more. When you were in that situation, you could’ve just said something like, “I wouldn’t forgive myself if I didn’t kiss you seeing you like this.” That’s it. You said what you felt, boom, done. If she says “kiss me,” cool. If she says she’s …
/r/seduction18/11/25 03:24 PM
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I usually play this game where I compare people at the bar using prepositions. Like, ‘Check out that couple over there—who do you think takes control in bed?’ You can change the question however you want. I’ve noticed people love this kind of little game. You can slowly shift the vibe until it gets to, ‘So, how are you in bed?
/r/seduction17/11/25 08:32 PM
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It really depends on the person, but usually the topics are pretty common — places they’ve been (that’s where I throw in a short story), and lately I’ve noticed most love talking about shows or movies. But every topic is like a “branch on a tree” I can grab onto if the conversation starts getting dull. With all the experience I’ve got, I always sprinkle in some flirting or highlight something about her that most people wouldn’t notice. At the end of the day, I feel like they’re the ones trying t…
/r/seduction12/11/25 12:50 PM
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So far this year I’ve been on around 20 first dates, and almost every girl was basically asking for exclusivity or a relationship right after the first one — meaning they liked the date so much they already wanted a repeat. What I can tell you, though, is like someone once said: “don’t take space in an artificial way.” Every woman moves at her own pace after a date, so don’t stress if she doesn’t text or agree to another one right away. What you can do is use what she mentioned during the date —…
/r/seduction12/11/25 11:38 AM
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I don’t know if I’m the only one who thinks there’s more behind that question, but in that case, I’d just throw it back with something like, “Why would someone like you ask that?” or something along those lines.
/r/seduction10/11/25 07:45 PM
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You probably didn’t spark enough attraction during your dates — flirting is key, man. In the past few months, I’ve been on ten first dates, and every single one turned into a potential relationship.
/r/seduction10/11/25 07:26 PM
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same here man, this year I’ve been out with like 30 girls or so, and it still feels the same. I’m still tryna figure out why that happens, but honestly, I can see myself dropping the whole “seduction” thing at some point.
/r/seduction07/11/25 12:11 PM
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Yo bro, don’t trip. The first few times you get rejected, it hits hard — we all tend to overreact — but that’s just the beginning. For me, back when I was your age (27), that kind of stuff actually pushed me to talk to more women. By 28, I’d gone out with like 30 different girls. Now, you just gotta flip your perspective. We usually focus on the bad, but in your case, you actually learned how it feels to be in an uncomfortable spot — something you’d never really get just sitting there doing noth…
/r/seduction05/11/25 06:52 PM
1

I used to get bothered by that kind of stuff, but over time I’ve been meeting more and more women almost every day, so now it doesn’t really get to me. What does bug me a bit is when they keep hitting me with, “Sorry, I was with someone…” or “My bad for replying so late, I was with…” I just tell them there’s no need to apologize every time — no pressure, we’re just getting to know each other. Of course, not all of them are like that. Some girls would text me nonstop and get anxious if I didn’t r…
/r/seduction05/11/25 05:16 PM
17

I lined up plans with three girls tonight. You know what I’m actually gonna do? Play FUT Champions all night—now THAT’s when I’ll use a condom :)
/r/seduction31/10/25 04:27 PM
16

Copy or not, I don’t even care. This year alone I’ve been with like 30 girls, give or take — and honestly, that whole “you gotta get out there to be happy” thing sounds fake as hell. To someone who doesn’t live this dating game day in, day out, it probably sounds like the solution to all their problems. But nah, man. You’ll never be happy if you’re waiting on somebody else to make you feel that way.
/r/seduction31/10/25 11:46 AM
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Something tells me you had way too many expectations with this girl, which makes me think you focused more on hunting for “red flags” than actually paying attention to what she wanted. That does not excuse her behavior though. She acted like someone who kept throwing you little tests, and you kept answering with pure logic, which is boring. It was not the girl who discouraged you. You got discouraged because you did not react the way she wanted, which is honestly pretty dumb. They are women. You…
/r/seduction29/10/25 01:23 PM
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Hahaha man, this is so true. Saturday I went out with someone from the app, and she literally cut our dinner in half to head straight to a hotel with me because she just couldn’t wait any longer. As long as you pass her stupid little “tests,” whatever she says doesn’t mean shit. What she feels does.
/r/seduction28/10/25 05:21 PM
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I’ve gone out with women who had that on their profile, and by the end of the date they were telling me they wanted a relationship with me. Honestly, it’s all nonsense.
/r/seduction28/10/25 03:08 PM
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I like the self-analysis you did. I would label the real “mistake” as bringing the emotional talk way too soon. I always see guys fall into that trap, and I still don’t get why. In my dates, it is usually the woman who, after the second or third date, starts asking what I want. Some even told me after the first date that they were no longer interested in seeing anyone else. From the perspective of an outside reader, there was not much you could do once the frame slipped. You became too available…
/r/seduction28/10/25 01:27 PM
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I’m all for getting her wet, just not rushing the move, you know? A newbie won’t be able to handle that right away, which is normal since they have zero experience. Lately I always go for kino on first dates, smooth and calibrated, just to show confidence. That part is insanely important. When a woman feels she can trust you, she opens up real quick about what she really wants. Quick story from last night. After work we hit a bar for a couple drinks. Not even twenty minutes in and we were alread…
/r/seduction27/10/25 07:47 PM
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I’ve been on like 20 first dates this year, and honestly, I’ve never gotten messages like this before. Usually they’re like, “So, when are we seeing each other again?” But sometimes you can tell some women are really just fishing for the “What are we?”, “How do you see me?”, “Where is this going?” talk. And that stuff just makes me doubt things even more because, come on, I don’t even know you yet. So like people always say, what’s the point of “locking it down” if there’s nothing to lock down?
/r/seduction27/10/25 07:04 PM
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Bro, I’m in the same boat — I meet women almost every day and go out with them, so I’ve been through this before. I don’t recommend calling her out on anything, but you can talk to her about it. If she got upset, it’s probably because she thought you two had some kind of “exclusivity,” and seeing that behavior made you look inconsistent. It’s totally normal for her to feel disappointed — chances are, she stopped seeing other people after meeting you. Someone who doesn’t see you as a partner woul…
/r/seduction17/10/25 03:08 PM
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I completely agree with what you’re saying — these little games some women play, like “now I’ll act hard to get,” only end up confusing people. Being more straightforward and showing clearer signals actually makes things much easier for everyone involved.
/r/seduction17/10/25 11:56 AM
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Unfortunately, it’s not just in this sub — out there, guys are even worse.
/r/seduction14/10/25 04:48 PM
1

Good point of view. What I’ve learned over the years is that fine line — “seeking her approval.” Without even noticing, we fall into that dynamic, when in reality, it should be the other way around. Cheers!
/r/seduction14/10/25 11:24 AM
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Yeah, constantly. But I don’t think that whole “they’ve got someone they like more” thing is always true. Let me ask you — those girls who played hard to get, did any of them actually end up in a relationship since you met them? I’d say it’s more about their own insecurities — they just don’t know how to handle them, and that’s why they don’t “let you in.”
/r/seduction13/10/25 08:34 PM
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Good comment, but I’m left with one question — let’s say you actually see this woman as “relationship material,” but she gives you mixed signals or seems too unsure about getting into something serious. How would you handle that?
/r/seduction13/10/25 04:50 PM
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In my case, I went through the same thing. I didn’t text her right away — I waited a few days or even a week. To my surprise, they actually replied pretty well. I even ended up going out with women who had seemed “cold” after the first date — and sometimes those dates even led to intimacy. But here’s something important I realized: it’s completely unnecessary to “force” another meetup. If someone really wants to see you, they’ll make it clear. In my case, I wasn’t trying to force anything — it w…
/r/seduction10/10/25 06:48 PM
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You’re wasting your time trying to fix it. There are ways to keep your distance, and yours was the worst — even worse because now you’ll look for her out of need, not from the genuine interest you had at the beginning. You showed inconsistency in your behavior, and if she’s a woman who knows herself well, that already signaled insecurity. Learn from what happened and avoid these kinds of situations in the future.
/r/seduction08/10/25 07:04 PM
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Bro, stop texting so much. She’s already shown she’s interested—no need to keep throwing “roses” over text. If you really like her, go out with her more often. Overanalyzing every message she sends is just another way to mess up your own expectations.
/r/seduction07/10/25 03:25 PM
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Bro, let me ask you something — do you seriously want to build something with a girl like that? Someone who’s inconsistent with her responses, doesn’t take initiative, while you’re the one checking if she’s active, if she saw this, if she read that. You’re under no obligation to keep seeing her. Maybe because you had a few good dates, you’re expecting some kind of “reward” for the effort you put in — but that never leads anywhere good. So try to look at your behavior from a third-person perspect…
/r/seduction06/10/25 03:27 PM
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There’s your problem, bro. You’re trying to keep the interaction all “linear” and logical—like, I text this, she replies that. That’s gonna bite you in the ass eventually, ‘cause you’re constantly chasing her validation. You don’t get caught up in those games—the interest needs to be mutual. Switch your focus to your own life instead of trying 100% to please women. That’s way more attractive than some dude chasing her all day. Hit her up in a few days, but chill—don’t act like you have to impres…
/r/seduction03/10/25 01:41 PM
1

Looking at your situation, it’s pretty clear you don’t have a ton of experience with different types of women. That’s not a bad thing at all, but it does mean you’re more likely to slip up. You went out with her, you both had a good time—great. Now chill, man. This isn’t a race. You don’t need to text her every single day (but don’t ghost either). The point is to give yourself space to figure out if you actually liked going out with her. She’ll be doing the same on her end. No need to force anyt…
/r/seduction03/10/25 12:33 PM
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I really enjoy reading books and watching videos about seduction, since I’m always going on dates and meeting women. One book I’d recommend is Conversation Casanova by Dave Perrotta, and I’d also add Michael Pilinski – Without Embarrassment. I don’t think you should “marry” yourself to just one author. What helped me was looking at my situations from different perspectives. Sure, the whole “just go out and talk to people” advice is solid—but you don’t realize how much you grow when you keep lear…
/r/seduction03/10/25 11:15 AM
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Enjoy the process, challenge the limiting beliefs some people have, throw myself into uncomfortable situations, and above all, stop giving attention to unnecessary people.
/r/seduction02/10/25 11:15 AM
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Bro, you’re getting the whole “mysterious” thing wrong. Of course it’s gonna drain you if it’s not something that actually feels connected to who you are. What I always see with guys is they mess up in the texting game. It’s not about replying late or fast — it’s about what you’re sending her. Sometimes you can hit back quick, sometimes take your time, doesn’t matter. They’re women, they don’t run on logic. Texts, for me, are just a way to build a sense of security in her. The real seduction? Th…
/r/seduction30/09/25 11:23 AM
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The idea ain’t bad, but it’s kinda limiting since a lot of people hold back their real feelings about who they are. I think the best move is, if you feel it could be more than just friendship, let the other person know without forcing it. At least that way you won’t be stuck with that “what if I had said something?” doubt. I’ve approached plenty of women where I managed to build a friendship, but only a few. At the end of the day, they usually end up catching feelings for me. One thing’s for sur…
/r/seduction26/09/25 02:57 PM
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The first part is where your problem is. With that whole “trying to make nothing happen” mindset, you’re actually taking the date too seriously, building up expectations in your own head. Don’t hold yourself back too much, but at the same time, don’t push past that person’s limits either. Like, if you wanna kiss her—go for it. If you wanna touch her—find the right moment to make it happen. What I’m saying is: look for a way to show what you feel with that person, always aiming for both of you to…
/r/seduction23/09/25 08:18 PM
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I usually do it, and it works for what I’m looking for, which is just getting a date. But here’s the thing: writing again after some time has passed often feels “awkward,” which is why some people don’t do it—and that’s understandable. In my case, lately I’ve been trying things that used to make me feel insecure, and this was one of them. To my surprise, they reacted well. I tested this with several of my contacts, and it worked every time. At the end of the day, it was just one more “fear” I ov…
/r/seduction23/09/25 03:26 PM
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It’s happened to me a bunch of times, man. What I do is just introduce the girl to my friend — I even play the wingman role. Chasing women ain’t my priority. I flirt here and there, it just comes natural, so competing doesn’t even cross my mind. I know I can get more girls if I really want to. What cracks me up is that the same girls I hooked up with my friends would circle back later looking for me. Bro, there’s plenty of women out there — don’t stress it.
/r/seduction19/09/25 12:00 PM
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Being analytical is cool (I’m like that too), but with women, it can backfire. You’ll end up setting too many expectations, and if things don’t work out, you’ll get frustrated—basically, you’ll sabotage yourself. Don’t let it get that far. As for advice, there’s plenty out there, maybe this post will give you more. But what I’d do in your situation is first, try to act as confident as possible (chances are, this will come naturally with the girl). You’ll probably end up talking about common stuf…
/r/seduction18/09/25 05:44 PM
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Bro, you’re filling yourself with insecurities that aren’t really helping — you’re basically looking for problems where there aren’t any. It’s totally normal to feel nervous about a first date, but from what I see, you’ve got everything planned out, and that’s fine. It doesn’t need to be the “perfect” date, because she’s already interested in you. I think you’ll do just fine. From what I’ve read, you don’t have any weird intentions, just a bit of self-doubt — but that fades with time. Good luck,…
/r/seduction18/09/25 05:24 PM
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What I see is that what you really hate is the rejection from women, their mixed signals and their behavior. And honestly, that’s normal with the times we’re living in. But the real question is: where’s that ‘hate’ coming from? ’Cause with that energy it’s almost impossible to connect with any girl. You’re wasting unnecessary energy trying to meet women. First you gotta be cool with yourself, otherwise you’re just looking at it like an obligation or a need
/r/seduction18/09/25 01:34 PM
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This is super common with guys, we forgive too fast and give a second chance to the same girl that disrespected us. For me it was hard to let go of people that looked like ‘good material’ but it was just my head making up expectations. Since then, I always set boundaries with women and I’m not scared ’cause I got options, or I can just go out and find some (something a lot of men forget)
/r/seduction18/09/25 01:16 PM
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After having quite a bit of dating experience, I’d say this is both good and bad. Good, because at least she let you know instead of just disappearing (lately, many people just stop replying and then come back hours later with a “sorry, I fell asleep”). However, the way she responded when you asked to meet today was rather vague. At this point, you can already consider her somewhat inconsistent. It’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it’s important that you notice it early. Someone who genuinely …
/r/seduction12/09/25 04:45 PM
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In my case, I do both — approaching in person and using apps. For me, sending a message works, but never with a boring “hey.” If you’re sitting around waiting for them to text first, you’ll be waiting forever, bro. They’re terrible at that, haha. Here’s what I do: I pass by a spot we went to before, hit her up reminding her of something she said or promised, and boom — she’s hooked. From there I set up the next hangout. Every time it’s worked. Honestly, I can hit up any of my contacts and I know…
/r/seduction12/09/25 11:53 AM
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Normally, I’d start by complimenting her on a ring, then move on to her hand—always while we were talking about something else. Then, light touches on the back, and so on. Over time, it just came naturally to me, and the other person could feel it that way too.
/r/seduction11/09/25 03:18 PM
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Dates aren’t job interviews, man. You’re supposed to vibe and make the other person feel something. The questions are just a tool to get there. From my experience — I’ve been on plenty of dates and had great success — I wouldn’t really recommend treating them like interviews
/r/seduction09/09/25 07:42 PM
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If the date ends at night, I just text her ‘I’m home now.’ But you gotta keep in mind how you feel as days go by, and especially how much time you actually have. If you know how to say it, like people mentioned in the other comments, it’s hard for her to see you as ‘needy.
/r/seduction04/09/25 12:07 PM
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I don’t think telling someone who’s just starting out that they have to kiss on the first date is good advice. Sure, it helps you not get stuck in the friendzone since it makes things romantic, but it just puts a ton of pressure on someone who doesn’t have the experience yet.
/r/seduction04/09/25 11:59 AM
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A straight-up “no” for a future girlfriend in this case, bro. Trust me—you don’t want a woman by your side who just ignores your messages. That’s pure emotional immaturity. Now, if she leaves you on read and you still feel like going out, hit her up the next week to set something up—but keep it natural. Remember, you can’t treat every girl like she’s your girlfriend. You always gotta be checking her level of interest. For me, some women were hitting me up the very next day asking to hang out aga…
/r/seduction03/09/25 05:01 PM
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Try waiting like three days. You can bring up something she mentioned on the date—maybe a place she went, a story she told you, or something that happened to you that reminded you of her. The key here is to aim for a second date, basically test her interest through the conversation. And don’t forget—you’ve already been out with her, so you’ve got a small edge over other guys or possible candidates. See it as the moment to stop validating her so much, since you two already know each other. Also, …
/r/seduction03/09/25 04:43 PM
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I went through the same thing, man. I used to enjoy chill snacks way more, but lately I’ve been checking out restaurants where I already know the prices aren’t crazy, so I’ve been going out for dinners. But honestly, I was doing it more to see how I act in different situations—daytime or nighttime—and I realized the time doesn’t really matter. You don’t need to be strict about that. What really matters to me is getting to know the girl, vibing with her, sharing emotions, and just having a good t…
/r/seduction03/09/25 03:16 PM
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From my experience with a bunch of dates this year, I’d say give it two or three days. But be careful with the vibe you send out—some people need more time to process everything that went down on the date. And don’t rule out the fact that it might’ve just been “a good first date” with no second one coming. My advice: don’t always stick to “rules.” Make your own based on how you feel. If you wanna text the next day, do it. If it’s 10 days later, do it. They don’t go by strict logic—it’s more abou…
/r/seduction03/09/25 01:42 PM
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This is the answer I was looking for to guide the OP, and I can back it up with my own experience. I’ve been on ‘just friends’ plans with womens, but when the vibe shifted (I made it shift), we ended up sleeping together that same night with who was supposed to be my "friend"
/r/seduction02/09/25 01:24 PM
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I’ve been through this before, and what I’d recommend is finding a time when you’re both free (one time I even went out with someone at 10 PM ‘cause that’s when she got off work). That kind of effort really builds chemistry between you two. Don’t overthink the long-term future, just take it step by step. As for texting, pay attention to how much she replies. If she’s chatty, you can go along with it, but if not, just hit her up to make plans. Trust me, you’ve already got an advantage over the re…
/r/seduction01/09/25 07:45 PM
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I already tried this, and yeah, it helps at the start, but in the end it’s on you to take action. What I did was mess around and build my own GPT — I threw in books, manuals, and stuff about behavior. I also set it up to be pretty blunt whenever my messages are way off. Anyway, I stuck with that because I can switch sources whenever I want.
/r/seduction01/09/25 06:20 PM
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Careful with this, man. I recently found out that those “sexy chats” often get passed around between girlfriends just for laughs. The girl I went out with showed me messages some dude was sending her friend. My best advice? Don’t waste time with that. Suggest a specific plan: “I’m going to this place, if you’re free I’ll swing by and pick you up.” Once you’re face to face, she might act a bit “reserved”… or maybe not. Just take it step by step. If she keeps saying yes to everything you propose, …
/r/seduction29/08/25 02:33 PM
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I’ve been through this before, and let me tell you straight up: first ask yourself, “What do I actually want?” Do you want this girl as your girlfriend? If yes, then she’s already telling you she’s not available — that’s a no. So you gotta look for that in someone else who actually is available. Please don’t fall for the “maybe one day she’ll like me” story — you’ll just waste your time. Now, like others already said, you do have a solid chance to keep her as an option for a FWB, but only if you…
/r/seduction28/08/25 07:16 PM
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So yeah, I agree with most of the message and I really like where it’s heading. But for me, I actually tried out this whole “double texting” thing with a few women I still had in my contacts — you know, the ones where things just kind of faded away. I did it more as a little experiment, just to see what would happen. And honestly? I was surprised. Every single one replied. Some even suggested meeting up again, and in a few cases, it led to us sleeping together. I basically had a list of contacts…
/r/seduction26/08/25 05:25 PM
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You can block her, delete her, or just keep her there as a “just in case.” If you look at it, this girl’s got a big issue—she can’t really be responsible for what she feels, and that’s a huge red flag for any relationship. What I’d honestly recommend is patience above all. Give yourself time to process this (I know it’s not easy because it hits the ego), but with time you’ll be able to think about it more calmly. I wouldn’t even rule out the possibility that she’ll text you again, but remember—a…
/r/seduction25/08/25 08:00 PM
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First of all, watch how you react to these situations—you can’t put your whole mood or decision-making in someone else’s hands (I’m not saying what she did was okay, though). I’ve been through this myself, and since I’ve got other options, it didn’t really bother me how she reacted. That said, she’s no longer in the “potential girlfriend” category, more like someone to just hang out with. I’m pretty sure that if you act like it didn’t really affect you, next time you invite her, she’ll probably …
/r/seduction25/08/25 07:43 PM
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What usually works for me is just saying I’ll be at this coffee shop at this time, and if she’s free I’ll swing by and we’ll go together. That way it comes off as something I normally do, and she just adapts to the plan. And if she says no, it’s no big deal because I was going anyway
/r/seduction25/08/25 07:36 PM
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Bro, look at the mess you got yourself into, haha. You already pulled up with two rookies? Happens, man. First off, quit saying shit like ‘I’m trash at this.’ Nobody’s perfect, you just gotta play your game and use what you got. With first dates you line up through chat, first impressions are key. So don’t be weird, just keep it chill, be smooth, let her talk and, bro, for real—LISTEN. Most dudes don’t, and then they got nothing left to say. And about that whole ‘first-date kiss’ thing? Chill, i…
/r/seduction22/08/25 01:30 PM
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So, I’ve met girls like that before, and honestly, I never really cared if they stopped talking to me—thanks to seduction, I knew I had options. But at some point, I started trying something different. Let’s say she just ended the conversation and left it there. Then, like 5 or 6 days later, I’d randomly remember something we talked about and text her again. Not with the usual “Hey, what’s up?” but more like, “You won’t believe who I just ran into.” And almost every time, they’d reply super hype…
/r/seduction21/08/25 07:57 PM
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Even if it kinda sounds like AI haha, he’s right. Something similar happened to me not long ago with a girl. Normally I end my dates with a kiss, but this time I told myself I wouldn’t… still, I couldn’t hold back and we ended up making out for hours. After that, though, our convos started slowing down over the next few days. I realized she probably needed some space, so I stayed patient. A few days later she texted me again asking how I was doing, and now I’m planning to see her again sometime.…
/r/seduction20/08/25 01:25 PM
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This exact thing happened to me with a girl this past weekend. It was our first date, and to be honest with you, I had no intention of kissing her (on all my first dates I’ve always kissed), but I wanted things to be different with her. So I didn’t even try any kino. Later, when we were in my car on the way to her place, she started giving me signs that she did want the kiss (biting her lips, playing with her hair, playing with my hands while I was driving, etc.). After a while, I completely for…
/r/seduction18/08/25 06:51 PM
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I’ve had this happen a bunch of times, and what works for me is just messing around with the color of whatever they’re wearing. Not like, giving a compliment—more like throwing out a playful “judgy” comment, like, “Oh, with that dress you totally seem like the type who…” Just an idea—you can switch it up or even make it your go-to opener. I’ve gotten plenty of convos going like that, and yeah, even ended up on dates because of it.
/r/seduction12/08/25 02:58 PM
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Bro, read to the people in this post—take a break (speaking from experience). There were weekends when I was going out with different girls, but honestly, it burned me out. Take some time off, rethink what you really want from dating, and when you're ready, jump back in. No pressure, man. Take care
/r/seduction09/05/25 08:03 PM
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The thing is, a lot of guys go along with comments like "this app is just for sex" — so with that mindset, you're the only one who wants a relationship or to meet people? I mean, there are a thousand users and all of them are just looking for that? That’s stupid. But yeah, it does have its pros and cons. Still, approaching in person is way better — not because of the number of women you’ll meet, but because it helps you get over that fear of rejection that so many guys have.
/r/seduction11/04/25 02:37 PM
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I understand your point, and based on my experience, I can agree with some aspects. In my case, dating is a great tool to filter the people I meet and gauge their level of interest. Now, you also have to consider how many men are talking to multiple women versus a man who is only talking to one. Having options helps a lot in this case. If you're a guy talking to just one woman and she rejects your date, it feels like the world is falling apart. But if you've been talking to several, you won’t ca…
/r/seduction01/04/25 07:46 PM
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For me: MODELS - Mark Manson Without Embarrassment - Michael Pilinski No More Mr Nice Guy - Robert A. Glover
/r/seduction28/03/25 11:33 AM
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Don’t take this the wrong way, but you’ve had a fear of rejection from women for a while now. It’s great that you’ve focused on yourself and achieved your goals, but is that really what women want? Partially, yes, but not entirely. If you’ve never been flirting with women, how do you know what traits you like? How do you know what kind of personality you want them to have? My point is that, like you, many men focus only on personal growth, become successful, but end up choosing a terrible partne…
/r/seduction14/03/25 01:57 PM
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Look, it's not that the post is bad, but the examples it suggests have been used by too many men. Women aren’t naive—they’ve heard these 'openers' countless times. Another thing to consider is that some women will reply simply because they're bored (which makes sense, as they receive multiple messages daily from different men). So, no matter how well-crafted your message is, if she’s not open to meeting someone, there’s no way to change that. I've spent my fair share of time on this app, and I’v…
/r/seduction13/03/25 07:43 PM
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totally agree with your thoughts, and I also sometimes feel that the "organic connection" is lost, especially with the heavy use of social media or dating apps—not to mention the excessive attention they receive on IG. But in the end, it’s just another tool to meet people; it’s up to us to choose our partner wisely
/r/seduction10/03/25 07:13 PM
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In my case, dating apps were a "faster" way to meet women since I work/study most of the time. I didn’t have bad experiences going out with women; in fact, it helped me understand them better. Based on what you mentioned about "wife material," it will be difficult in both cases—apps or real life—because you need to have a clear idea of what you want. Yes, you may go out with multiple women, but if you don’t set a filter for what you're looking for, it won’t be of much use. Best of luck!
/r/seduction10/03/25 03:27 PM
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That happened to me too, but here’s a tip to speed up the process to the date. Ask her what she likes (they love talking about themselves)—favorite food, a book she’s reading, etc. This will make her feel ‘safe’ and you won’t come across as desperate. Once she starts opening up, getting her to accept a date becomes much easier. After going on 4 to 5 dates, you’ll start to see what type of woman you want to focus on in your matches.
/r/seduction07/02/25 08:14 PM
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I went through the same thing a while ago—lots of matches, but I couldn't go out with all the ones I was interested in. Over time, this gets boring (at least it did for me) because you end up having the same conversation over and over again with different people. Now, with more experience, I only talk to 2 or 3 women after a good screening, and I only text them until I set up a date. Good luck!
/r/seduction07/02/25 08:01 PM
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