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Question For MenSabrepill/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:17 AM
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It’s also because women constantly virtue signal and lie about what they are really attracted to. Foolish men actually believe the nonsense. Sometimes women themselves don’t consciously know what they are attracted to, and think it’s a bunch of traits it’s not. When in reality, it’s the their subconscious and instinct which attracts them to certain men and not to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:15 PM
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Society is gynocentric. It’s very anti male
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:40 PM
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Right, it’s assassinating their online muppet. My muppet is the default one I never changed it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:28 AM
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Character assassinations are attempts to cancel him by discrediting his reputation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:16 AM
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I don’t believe those stats are accurate. I don’t know what the truth is, but I question how those stats were derived. I’d guess from “self reporting”. And the definition of sexual assault isn’t very clear. Is a man saying you have a great ass to his coworker sexual asssult? It’s technically sexual harassment if she didn’t like the comment, but is that a form of assault? Is a woman grabbing a man’s ass at work sexual assault? How many men would report it? Nearly zero. Intangibles like that total…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:35 AM
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Because consent and false accusations have become weaponized against men in general in this gynocentric society. Are some men actual pieces of shit who commit sexual assault? Yes Are some women actual pieces of shit who lie about it or twist the narrative like this post discusses? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:27 AM

Almost all of the replies to the OP are personal attacks, attempts at social destruction, character assassination, and mischaracterizations about what he said instead of actually discussing the topic That’s why you can’t discuss sensitive topics with woke muppets. They will immediately react negatively and launch a full scale assault using the methods above. Cancel you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:09 AM
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A man asking a woman for advice is usually a pathetic situation for the man. It’s repulsive for women to feel like they are superior to a man. Asking someone for advice usually puts yourself beneath that person, at least in that area. Women innately view themselves as superior to men who ask them for advice and lose attraction to that man
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:20 AM
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But they are misleading. Especially considering averages don’t apply to individuals. For example 22 is somehow the preferred age of women on average yet all the hottest women to me are 25-32 on average. And some of the hottest women in the world are older than 22
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:11 AM
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You do realize that those okcupid studies are not the word of god. They are actually very poorly done studies in a very narrow field of dating. Online dating on a bad dating platform that nobody even uses anymore. Those studies are not accurate at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:18 PM
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Honestly I’d say that I find attractive women in their 30s to be the most attractive. It’s just that there are more attractive women in their 20s because American culture is so focused on hedonism and alcohol that most people don’t age well Also I’d say that women are the primary sexual selectors in today’s dating market. Which means if an age gap relationship exists, it’s primarily because the woman chose the man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:27 PM
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Women will let a man know if they really care one way or another
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:27 AM
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Sure maybe to some men. I’ve just always found older women attractive, even when I was young. And by older I mean 25-45 or so
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:41 AM
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I’m 43 and prefer women in their 30s or late twenties at the youngest. But I’ve had younger women show interest and I’m not going to just ignore a woman who’s approaching her prime just because she’s a little younger than what I prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:17 AM
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Most young people are ugly too these days, what’s your point? Ugly people shouldn’t try to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:13 AM
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So you blame ugly men for trying ? Why not just say thanks but no thanks, instead of acting like your shit doesn’t stink
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:09 AM
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Undesirable old men are not landing young women. Desirable old men, are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:08 AM
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Who cares about “most” and “average”. That’s a sheep mindset attempting to appeal to the normal of their society, instead of just live and let live
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:07 AM
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This is accurate, but there are more attractive older women and men than young people realize. I actually find hot women in their 30s more attractive than hot women in their 20s most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:01 AM
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If anything they’d be preying upon him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:00 AM
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You do realize that it takes two right? His woman wanted a child with him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:57 AM
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Women in their thirties who took care of themselves are some of the hottest of all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:53 AM
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As a 43 year old man, I find women in their late twenties and 30s the most attractive. When I was in my twenties I also found women in their late twenties and thirties most attractive. I was open to dating older women when I was young and am open to dating younger women now that I’m older. I wouldn’t care what age my daughter dated if I had a daughter. If she’s an adult she has a brain and instincts that would allow her to make decisions without me trying to enforce my views
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:50 AM
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I’ve seen a lot of woke muppets care also. Not just older women, but also super woke gen z people who think everyone is a victim in some way. These people tend to be young and unattractive. The men look like gamers and neckbeards with soy based vegan bodies either overweight or skinny fat. The women are obese and usually have purple and blue hair. I’ve almost never seen attractive people care about age gaps
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:47 AM
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There’s a difference between men pair bonded to a woman they are already with, and men seeking a new mate. Men often love their wives even when their wives become old and ugly. Because they are pair bonded and in love. But if they lose her, when they seek a new woman they will try to get the youngest and hottest they can. Just like women will try to get the tallest, most handsome, and most successful man they can if they are newly single
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:59 AM
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Yeah, feminist women are basically women who think they are men and have full time jobs. Daycare is the only super expensive part of raising children. If the children have a mom who actually prefers being a mother rather than a wage slave, kids are cheap. She can even work part time and still be a good mom
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:19 PM
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Kids not wise in this economy. The kids being expensive thing is a joke. The poorest people tend to have the most kids. Kids aren’t expensive if you have a good stay at home or part time working wife, like a nurse, medical field, substitute teacher, etc. Daycare is what’s expensive. And dumb people think you need daycare when kids just need their mom. Everything else is cheap like food
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:05 PM
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Why don’t u want more
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:55 PM
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Well done
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:54 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:54 PM
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Your son might not be as insecure about something as stupid as hair and just shave his head
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:53 PM
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False
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:51 PM
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You can have kids with absolutely nothing. Consumer brainwashing convinced the masses that children are expensive. When in reality the poorest people have the most children
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:50 PM
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I’d like to have anywhere between 2 and 17 children. I’m 43 and haven’t started yet
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:48 PM
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I can eat at home for free and sometimes I decide to pay and eat out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:30 PM
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They don’t “have” to. They choose to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:30 PM
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The people you know doesn’t reflect the entire world
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:29 PM
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Nah. Chads are often very idgaf and high testosterone. They don’t give a shit about whether you think it’s gross. They want to fuck and don’t care about opinions. I saw two types of guys using hookers a lot. Losers and super alpha dudes who were military, rode motorcycles, or fought mma
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:28 PM
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Not always. Even chads strike out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:26 PM
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Getting sex requires putting in an investment. Dating or getting lucky going out. Sometimes those guys want a hot girl right now
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:19 PM
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Many have and do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:19 PM
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Yes and no. Looks are definitely subjective, but also objective. As a man being tall and lean and having good symmetry as well as classic masculine features such as a square jaw and hunter eyes are pretty universally attractive. You can have all of those traits and not be found attractive. You can be missing some of those traits, and be very attractive. You could be the right or wrong race, right or wrong body language and vibes, the list goes on. Attraction is simple and complex. Subjective and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:15 PM
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Yes, however looks are subjective and a man who is confident and charming and has the capability of making a woman feel good, becomes good looking to her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:21 PM
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Sometimes you can eat at home for Free, food you already bought. But you go out to eat instead Lots of men using prostitutes are married or have girlfriends or are doing it for varieties sake
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:42 PM
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The guys I know who have been with the most prostitutes are literally the most alpha guys. They are buff, good looking, easily pull women at bars. Yet they also have fucked prostitutes because they simply don’t care about what other people think about them, especially women. A lot of them were military or rode motorcycles or mma fighters
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:08 AM
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You’re assuming chads haven’t paid for sex because they don’t need to. But it’s a false assumption. A lot of Hot men have paid for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:43 PM
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Yeah but Chad is going to lie to you about it anyways and you’re going to believe him because he’s so good looking and charming. You really think he’s gonna mention the hookers he banged when he was in the military or the sugar babies he paid with his dad’s trust fund money when he was in college? No, he’s going to sell you anything he wants because he’s Chad Women virtue signal they want an honest man, but in reality they want a man to lie to them so well, and make them feel so good, that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:38 PM
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You assume she’s not into him, and might be right most of the time. But sugar babies and prostitutes are human too right? What if some fit chad is paying for sex to avoid wasting time? She might enjoy fucking him while getting paid too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:32 PM
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You care to much what a hypothetical woman thinks. I’ve seen college chads fuck a bunch of regular women and then go fuck sugar babies and give them a little of dads trust fund money
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:30 PM
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How did you find out? Experience or you were told?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:27 PM
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Literal chads sometimes pay hookers. Chads are usually high T males that wanna fuck hot women and have low inhibitions. They don’t care if it’s politically correct or what a woman will think because they will lie to her anyways. A bunch of college, military, and trust fund chads are spending money on escorts and sugar babies which are basically prostitutes too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:25 PM
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First, who cares what prostitutes think Second, If they are fucking losers, they are even more of a loser than the guys they are fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:21 PM
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Sugar babies or escorts?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:19 PM
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Because some men get hung up on being moral and honest and so want to spill their beans to every woman they go out with. They don’t realize that It’s not like she’s describing the nasty shit she took before coming out on the date with you, or the BV odor she got from sleeping with 4 guys in 3 weeks who all came inside her. some information can be withheld or lied about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:17 PM
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Richard geere in pretty woman was more attractive than 99% of men and was using prostitutes. Your statement is the equivalent of a man saying I find women using huge dildos repulsive and wouldn’t date her. Even though most hot women have used huge dildos and most hot guys have paid for sex especially military and college guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:14 PM
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Women want to be lied to in ways that make them feel good about you and themselves despite virtue signaling about honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:10 PM
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You can’t reason with illogical people, so that doesn’t work. What works is power, being more powerful than them and having the power to make women feel good. The most common traits which give men that power is looks, charm, money, and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:09 PM
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How you make a woman feel is what makes them attracted. A man that can make a woman feel good, is Don Juan. Looks, charm, money, and status are the traits that make it the most likely to give a man the power to make a woman feel good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:07 PM
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Women say they want an honest man but in reality want nothing more than to be lied to as much as possible in a manner that makes them feel as good as possible about themselves and yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:05 PM
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Is a sugar baby a prostitute to you? Why or why not? A huge percentage of young college women admitted to having sugar daddies to help pay for things. Do you find that repulsive as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:04 PM
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Is paying for a meal you eat pathetic too? What if you aren’t paying her to pretend to like you. What if you’re paying her to fuck her and leave, satisfy yourself and be done. How is that different from eating? Aren’t both satisfying a desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:03 PM
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That’s like a man saying I don’t date women who need to use large dildos. Truth is that lots of “hot” guys have paid for sex before because they were horny or the woman was hot and they didn’t want to go out on a bunch of dates or hope to get lucky on a weekend night. And many attractive women have used huge dildos not because they can’t get a guy but because maybe they like to stretch themselves out a bit to better enjoy sex with hung chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:58 PM
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Wow that’s an amazing and insightful post. I agree with almost everything you said. I’d add the caveat there are a lot of crazies on the red side too, in both politics and pill, but it’s more towards the extremes. Strange that there is more open minded debate on the side traditionally seen as conservative than there is on the side that calls themselves liberal. The left isn’t liberal anymore, it’s dogmatic. The right is actually where classical liberalism and free thought dwells these days. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:01 PM
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What in particular makes you describe yourself as a red pill woman? Were you blue pilled before, and if so, what uncomfortable truths changed your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:27 PM
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Since you are a woman, I am curious what shifted you from Blue to Red. What are the most obvious uncomfortable truths that changed your perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:25 PM
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Winner and loser is a choice. You win when you choose to never give up. You lose when you give up. You’ve decided your own fate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:59 AM
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I agree, but there are periods of weaker and stronger sexual selection and pressure. Sometimes there is more pressure on females and less pressure on males. A good example is post wartime when most men are dead and females have to compete for the remaining men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:56 AM
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Sure, but there’s no denying there is a demographic shift and evolutionary adjustment happening. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, it just is. Majority of Males are being removed from the gene pool
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:46 AM
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If you look at who’s getting married it’s mostly religious people and immigrants. Domestically born secular people have abysmally low birth rates, and marriage rates and also high divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:01 AM
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That doesn’t mean anything without the context of the population. Marriage rates have been rapidly declining
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:57 PM
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Marriage rates are at their lowest ever and still declining
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:45 PM
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I had my first girlfriend at 31. She was 22 and hot. If you give up you never will. Keep bettering yourself. Would you date yourself if you were a woman? If not, fix what you can
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:41 PM
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If you do what everyone else does, you get the results everyone else does. Most people are average. Today that means they are fat, broke, single, and childless or single mothers. If you want results that other people don’t have, like being fit, rich, married, and having several children; you have to do things differently I can’t tell you what it is you have to do, you have to figure that out for yourself. But I can tell you that most people on Reddit are idiots and so instead of taking advice fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:37 PM
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It’s probably self reported data and women virtue signal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:38 PM
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That isn’t because of their age. That’s because they make bad life choices for more years. Look at 40 year olds who made good life choices like Lebron James. Still one of the best in the NBA. Body of a god
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:32 PM
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I mean you have 40 year olds like Lebron James who’s still one of the best in the entire NBA, physically superior to 99% of young pro athletes. And you have guys who totally let themselves go. 40 is an age where you life choices start to show and you’re either in the prime of life and close to physical prime, or you’re getting old because u did dumb things
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:30 PM
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Dude are you serious? 40 is still near physical prime for men who took care of themselves. Look at Lebron James still one of the best in the NBA. You have to really let yourself go to be old by 40. No exercise, no sleep, bad food, and lots of alcohol and drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:28 PM
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It has more to do with men being wired differently than women. Having more testosterone for example, makes you more willing to take risks such as risking asking someone out and getting rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:22 PM
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What matters is how the woman feels in your presence. Good looks make it easy for women to enjoy your presence. So does good charisma. You want both Good looks for men doesn’t mean always mean pretty like a woman, it means rugged masculine good looks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:36 AM
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Because equality and feminism is a lie and when women want to cum hard sometimes they want to be choked to physically feel like they are submitting to a dominant man they respect
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:17 AM
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Western women have feminist programming. You need to be better looking than younger guys if you want young western women. And you don’t lead with your age, because it will scare them off. If they ask your age you tell them, but let them be instinctively attracted to you first. Looks and charisma matter more than money in the west unless you want a sugar baby. All money does is give you the time freedom to be able to looksmax Looking like you workout is not enough. You literally need to look bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:19 PM
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Doesn’t matter what the vast majority of men look like. Most men are invisible to women, especially attractive women. Don’t have 6 pack abs and a chiseled face? If no, then you aren’t looksmaxed and you can just say it’s age. Get abs and a chiseled face and see the difference in how women treat you. It has nothing to do with being shirtless by the way, low body fat levels in men seem to signal high T and good mate to women evolutionarily for some reason and they can tell through clothes subconsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:24 PM
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That doesn’t mean it’s age. Did you put in the work to age well? Do you have a chiseled face and abs at 30? Do you look healthy robust and attractive? Or are you out of shape at 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:08 PM
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I’m bald since my early 20s and have a beard. That already probably makes me invisible to most women since I’m not their type. Throw in some greys on my chin and being 43. Yet somehow dating is still easier with hotter women for me now than it was under 30, I feel like from 35 to now has been the best for me, I had some great relationships and I’d like to start a family soon with the right woman. The only thing that actually got harder was dating apps past 40 to date women under 30 because I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:03 PM
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The absolute best men peak 25-35 then physically and 40-45 overall if you factor in the ability to provide, maturity, and life experience all of which most women value in men in addition to looks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:42 AM
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My body is posted if you look at my post history. I’ve had many women in their 20s hit on me recently despite being 43. I feel like my looks are peaking. I am getting some greys on my chin but that hasn’t seemed to matter. I don’t have any wrinkles or other signs of aging yet. Also I grew my beard out and that hasn’t seem to hurt with women like I thought it would, even with some grey on my chin. I interact very little with women under 25. I don’t go to college areas. Usually if I get a really y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:35 AM
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How would it hit a nerve? You can believe whatever you want, I don’t give a shit. I don’t care about a ceiling or potential. I shared with you my own lived experience. I have more options with women now at 43 than I did at 23. These are Hot women, although under 25 is rare and not my preference anyways. I’ve always preferred women between 25-35. Also, trying to get laid as much as possible is a fools errand and leaves you with nothing other than emptiness. Relationships are the best experiences …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:52 AM
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No. Most sports 25-30 is peak. Certain sports like ufc it’s 30-35 or even 35-40 for heavier weights
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:42 AM
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UFC heavyweight peak between 35-40, lightest weights 25-30. Avg peak 30-35 And that’s purely physical and skill. But there is more to access with women then just your physical looks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:40 AM
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Studies are mostly bullshit. Citing Okcupid studies is about as dumb as it gets. Individuals peak at different ages. I’m 43 and I get the most female attention whenever my body fat % is under 17, regardless of my age. As long as you are healthy and have muscle, there is some weird magic that happens to men when your face is chiseled and you have an Adonis body. You don’t even have to have your shirt off, you glow through clothes. I got the most sex after 30 by far. Before 30 I had to put much mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:39 AM

The data is mostly bullshit. A single woman in her 30s can easily get laid with a decently hot guy any night of the week. Most women want to fuck at least once or twice a month minimum when they are ovulating. So I’d say at least 17 men a year
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:23 AM
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Well said, good examples. Women are a protected class, and regularly claim victimhood meanwhile never admitting to the vast majority of areas in which they have advantages
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:39 AM
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Because society has been so gynocentric and anti male and misandrist for so long, that men are getting fed up and rebelling. Porn, weed, and video games can only pacify men for so long. You see the same pattern when societies elect far left leaders and things don’t work out. The people rebel and the next thing you know some far right tyrant is in power
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:56 AM
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Your ability to walk away is your strongest card
/r/MensRights23/04/24 08:13 PM
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No. You are speaking in absolutes. I never made a statement that all children born to people who had children would want children of their own. I said genetic tendencies tend to be heritable. Which means across millions of people, as the people who don’t have children go extinct, and future humans keep descending from people who have children, there will be more genetic selection for traits which favor people who want children. That doesn’t mean everyone will want kids. It doesn’t mean it happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:07 PM

Real red pill not the nonsense called red pill online That is exaggerated reverse feminism for low IQs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:49 PM
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If you have to ask for a source it means you don’t think for yourself and must be told how to think. Typical of over educated people who think they are smart but really aren’t You don’t need a source for common sense. Personality traits and tendencies are obviously genetically heritable, to a certain extent. They’ve even followed twins who were split apart at birth and raised by different families and they had all sorts of things in common
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:48 PM

Being the best version of yourself has nothing to do with limits. Don’t compare yourself to others, compare yourself to who you were yesterday. A promiscuous woman isn’t ideal, but if she was promiscuous and was fucking hot guys that means she likely sees you that way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:32 PM

I never said be the best version of yourself to appease someone else. You should do it because you have one life to live, for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:19 PM

So become the chaddest version of yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:06 PM
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Not true. Many of the tendencies and choices we have are influenced by heritable genetics. Our personalities are partially genetic. Why do you think pit bulls are usually more aggressive than golden retrievers? Because a percentage of their disposition is genetic. Certain human dispositions might be more likely to want children than others
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:05 PM
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Evolution is a broad term. A black man mating with a blond chick and having kids with brown hair is evolution. That’s one generation. Evolution is constantly happening
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:08 AM
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One. Genetics are somewhat random but Children often inherit traits from their parents. Sometimes ideologies as well and influence from being raised by them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:55 AM
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I don’t think anybody should be forced to do anything. Birth rates are a self correcting problem because child free people go extinct. If only people who want children have children, eventually more and more people will have descended from people who wanted children and are more likely to want children themselves. That’s how evolution works
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:33 PM
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Self correcting problem. Childless men and women end their genetic lineage and bloodline. Future humans will have descended from people who probably weren’t feminists or far left leaning anti natalist muppets
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:08 PM
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It’s not unreasonable. It highlights the differences between men and women because men do not care what a woman makes at all. Many A rich man would marry a waitress. But the reverse is not true The reason this is notable is because women’s preferences for men: things like income, height, experience, etc are generally socially acceptable But when men share their preferences for women: young, attractive, inexperienced or not overly promiscuous, etc they are socially shamed. Look at all the age gap…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:22 PM
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I can’t agree. If she’s out fucking party scene people, degenerates, ugly and unattractive men with poor physiques and bad hygiene; I don’t want to touch her. If she’s fucking career focused men, tall handsome men with good physiques, well educated men, then to me she has high standards and that is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:40 PM
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Men of any age can land hot young women in their prime 18-35. It just gets harder, you have to have more going for you. Step one: Look better than younger men. Either be tall or low bodyfat with a Chiseled face and abs. Impeccably groomed and dressed. Step two: have years of practice in bantering and small talk and being social and charismatic Step three: play the numbers game. If only 1% of hot young women like an attractive older man like you, then you’re going to need to talk to at least 100 …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 05:01 PM

His face is round because he’s a fat fuck, not because of his age. The guy has obviously lived it up, drank too much alcohol, and eaten too much. And not exercised enough. Men need a chiseled face for the Adonis look. That means low body fat levels are paramount. Women can often get away with higher body fat levels because they often store it in tits and ass instead of face and stomach. Men get it in face and stomach which can look awful. Many women say dad bods are in but that bullshit. A dad b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:46 PM
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If only high caliber men are fucking her, it means you too are likely a high caliber man. If only low caliber men were fucking her, it means either you are low caliber or you’re one of the only high caliber men who went for her. Looking at someone exes tells you a lot about them. Same is true for guys. If their exes are nasty fat chicks, what kind of man do you think he is? If his exes are young and hot, that tells you something too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:37 PM
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Same reason people complain about income inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 05:38 AM
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Because men are attracted to feminine women. A feminine woman is going to be hypergamous. She should be fucking guys she views as better than herself, not gross dudes. If she’s fucking nasty men just to get laid, like many men do in reverse, then she’s exhibiting masculine behavior which is unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:02 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:00 AM
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That’s worse. If she’s promiscuous but fucking chads, and high quality men that means she’s selective. I’d give her a pass to be honest. A promiscuous woman with low standards is what’s disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:50 AM
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Fuck no. I’d be accepting if she was fucking desirable men. Because that means she’s selective despite being promiscuous. If she’s fucking losers I want nothing to do with her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:48 AM
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Actually, I would care. If she was promiscuous but was fucking chads and attractive men I might give her a pass. Because that means she’s selective despite being promiscuous If she was going around fucking losers, omega males, or unattractive people then I’d piece out quick. So yes it’s not just about body count, but also about what type of guys it was
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:47 AM
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Not many penises are as thick as a woman’s fist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:40 AM
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That would be most societies today. Males are just being pacified by porn, weed, and video games. Otherwise social unrest would already be insane
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:35 AM
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It won’t be normalized because most women are not very rational. Women tend to operate on feelings. That’s why there is a saying: watch what women do, not what they say. When women speak they tend to usually either be speaking idealistically or virtue signaling. But in reality women are extremely cut throat and don’t really give men they see below themselves a chance. They’d rather date a guy who they see as way above themselves, even if they know he has other women already or is likely to cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:32 AM
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I don’t think red pill says that men magically look good in their 40s. Red pill is mostly exaggerated bullshit but based on uncomfortable truths. Men who look good past 35 had to earn it. Their lifestyle promotes good looks. Their diet and exercise is on point. They have good genetics, they dress well, they groom well. They have refined their personality and finances. They have developed social skills. None of that stuff comes to men for free. Most guy over 35 have none of that and look like dog…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:36 PM
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Clooney is like 60s in that last photo. Pretty much Nobody looks better in their 60s. 50s is the latest a man can peak and even that’s rare. Most men who take care of themselves peak in their 30s like you said. Guys who don’t take care of themselves peak in their 20s. And a few men with great genetics peak in their 40s. Also Stewart was a sex symbol. So was Sean Connery. Even past 50s. Not your type, but other women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:18 PM
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Simple famous example are George Clooney and Richard Geere looked better in their 40s than their 20s and 30s. Sir Patrick Stewart wasn’t a sex symbol until he was in his 50s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:58 PM
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He doesn’t have to look young. He has to look good. Which usually does mean looking younger than your age to others because most people assume older people get ugly because most do. Some of the best looking older men look their age, but are just way better looking than most young guys. Like Richard geere in pretty woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:58 AM
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But some men are better looking in their 40s and 50s than most men in their 20s. Sure they are outliers; but it’s men like that or men with fame or money or charisma that get young women when they are old. Nobody is claiming that “average” older men do well with young women. Outlier older men certainly do though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:57 AM
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You’re wrong. Outlier men pull young women at any age even older ages. Because they are a more attractive total package than most younger men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:54 AM
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It doesn’t matter how most people choose unless you want to be like everyone else. The most attractive people are outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:42 AM
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If the man is her best option his age won’t matter much. She’s not gonna pick a worse guy just because he’s younger
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:37 AM
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What women say doesn’t align with what women do. Men don’t have a wall by age. The male wall is either your attractive or not. You can be 55 and attractive or 25 and not attractive. Most men become more and more unattractive as they get older. So the older you get, the better you have to be then everyone else. If you look better at 50 than men at 25, your age wont matter with the right women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:25 AM
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Depends on the guy. You can be over 40, bald and with sunspots and still get hot women of all ages including 20s: if you’re attractive enough. It’s also a numbers game, if only 1% of hot women like you but you interact with hundreds of women, you’ll have abundance. Male attractiveness is a combination of looks, money, status, and charm. Some men are masters of generating attraction in women because they make them feel good while in their presence. Women are emotional creatures, they fall for guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:05 AM
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Actually, that’s why it’s so deceptive. The divorce rate isn’t calculated as a percentage of marriages. It’s calculated as a percentage of the population. That’s how the fake narrative of people not getting divorced got spread around when what really happened is people stopped getting married as much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:49 PM

Man AJ mogs pretty much anyone. His body language is also extremely confident
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:16 PM

They do. They are raging inside. That’s why they are called woke
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:46 AM
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When she met Elvis they didn’t do anything sexual. It is not illegal for Elvis to have met Priscilla
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:45 AM

Most communication is non verbal. Body language, vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:44 AM
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Adult females are not children
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:43 AM
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Correct anyone can see my comments and yours. Nowhere do I ever suggest anything other than adults is ok. Women over 18 are adults and can sleep with whoever they want. The reason you’re a far left woke feminist who’s accusing people of liking children is because you’re mentally ill
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:42 AM
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You are mentally ill for falsely accusing men for liking adult women who you refer to as children
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:39 AM

They might see you together for breakfast
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:39 AM

Nah, woke muppets get extremely upset to even see it. Particularly middle aged female woke muppets and anyone from gen z which is totally indoctrinated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:28 AM

The difference is that nobody cares if a 40 year old woman fucks guys of any age, younger or older But if men fuck younger women, far left woke muppets throw a fit and yell predator and victim. Because they are severely mentally ill and need to obsess over other peoples relationships. Unfortunately society enables it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:25 AM
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Millions. Elvis and Priscilla
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:20 AM
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Because marriage rate is at a historic low If nobody is married there is nobody to get divorced
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:42 AM
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I’d call it intangibles instead of luck. There are hidden factors involved
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:39 PM
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That’s because women actually have intrinsic value when they are young. Most men go through their entire life, not just old age, with minimal value unless they create it for themselves. You say older women are hated by society? I don’t agree with that at all but I’d say most men are invisible by society even when they are young. When they are old they are even more invisible but nobody cares since they were already invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:27 PM
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It’s usually 45 due to higher rates of miscarriage, which is bad for business
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:59 AM
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I agree Although I’ve met many fat people who didn’t think they were fat. Many people are delusional or in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:54 AM
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Well that might be a cultural thing. Asians maybe value a youthful look In the west, women are starting to value masculine looks. Beards and things of that nature. Things which make men look a little olderb
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:50 AM
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Uh the average Hollywood heart throb male lead is 43. 30-45 is skewing young for men. Especially if appealing to middle aged and older women. I weighted it down towards younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:41 AM
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Insecure men do. And some women like short men, most don’t but some do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:39 AM
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To u
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:38 AM
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Base instincts are there for a reason. They need to be carefully attuned and balanced with logic and law
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:35 AM
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The loneliest demographic of humans is women over 55. The hot most desirable single men their age want younger women. That’s not a good feeling to know you had something when you were young and don’t have it anymore. So they want to hurt men back
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:33 AM
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It hurts to an insecure man maybe? To a man who gives no shits, won’t phase him one bit. You think Andrew Tate hasn’t been called that a million times? He still has extremely hot women going for him, why would he care about what an ugly, angry woman calls him to attempt to hurt him It actually reveals more about the person making that insult, that they are attempting to hurt someone’s feelings in a cruel but unsuccessful way. Insults like that work on soft insecure men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:31 AM
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Well men tend to peak in looks between 30-45 across the widest demographic of women. Even old women may find men in that range to be hot and young women too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:27 AM
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What you logically think you want is not the same as what your instinct wants Your instinct wants you to fuck women who look fertile to propagate the species It’s your logical mind that says you don’t want a lot of kids because u don’t want the responsibility or financial burden. Your instinct doesn’t give a fuck about that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:25 AM
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Men hit their prime when they earn it. For some men that’s early in life and for some men that can be in 40s and 50s. It’s women who have intrinsic value in their fertile years. Most men have little value even when they are young
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:18 AM
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Yes but being bald isn’t an automatic negative. I have bald friends who are way better looking than me, and they look better bald than with hair. And I have met women who prefer bald men. Most women like hair, but definitely not all…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:16 AM
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If you look across a large population it’s still not problematic because not a lot of 80 year old men are having kids And from an individual perspective, the chance that an 80 year old man’s child will be healthy is 99%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:09 AM
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Neither are you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:08 AM
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Male pattern baldness is genetic. Baldness due to other reasons is completely different The most popular male pornstar with ladies for several years was a guy named Johnny sins who is totally bald. Actors like the rock, Patrick Stewart, Bruce Willis, etc were super popular with ladies. Hair transplant is a big industry because most guys look better with hair than bald and because most guys are insecure about their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:07 AM
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And the chance is still way below 1% You do realize that even a 10x increased risk, of a super low risk, is still a low risk right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:59 AM
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Bald is not a sign of aging nor poor health. There are guys in highschool going bald. There are bald guys who lived healthy to over 100. I have great hair and I wouldn’t give a shit if I went bald. The guy I know who gets the hottest women is bald
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:47 AM
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You can’t hurt someone’s feelings who doesn’t think it’s an insult. You think if someone told the rock he was bald, his feelings would be hurt? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:43 AM
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I agree it matter, but females often virtue signal that it doesn’t matter. That’s not an insult, it’s a description of observed behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:43 AM
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I was literally on a date with a 23 year old and we were watching “the rock” with Sean Connery and she wouldn’t shut up with how hot he is. And I’ve heard it many times with guys like Simon cowled and Patrick Stewart as well, from women in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:42 AM
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The degree to which male fertility is affected by age is essentially negligible and spun into a fake narrative by feminists and man haters. For example an 80 year old man has 8x higher chance of having an autistic child as a 20-45 year old man, however the chances are still below 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:31 AM
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That’s a mighty specific trait coming from a gender that often pretend virtue signals about not caring about looks when in fact looks are probably more important than anything else. But I think all preferences are fine, nobody owes anybody anything in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:29 AM
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You’re wrong. Women often become haggard faster than men. Bald isn’t always a negative. And your belly and other aging as a man is controlled by your lifestyle choices. Men who choose to take care of themselves can age well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:25 AM
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You’re reciting an okcupid study. Studies are mostly nonsense. You’re basically regurgitating nonsense. In reality women find hot men attractive and hot men can be almost any age. Sean Connery was lusted over by young women while he was in his 70s. There are male heartthrobs from 20-80. Obviously more at younger ages because everyone except a select few get worse with age. Men typically are not the same and trend towards younger women, young being usually under 45-50 and still having strong fert…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:21 AM
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All of those besides losing hair is from bad lifestyle choices. And the hair part doesn’t matter to certain women if you’re handsome, fit, rich, and hung anyways or some combination of attractive features
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:18 AM
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I’m not arguing about anything. I’m discussing a topic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:15 AM
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How is being bald an insult? If I lost my hair and someone called me bald, I’d say yes I am. That’s not an insult. Maybe to mentally frail men it is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:13 AM
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That gets in to broad appeal and niche appeal. Bald tends to have niche appeal to a subset of women. It’s also a negative to many women, or neutral to many women. Another example of niche appeal would be being black. Doesn’t mean you’re worse, but many women don’t date black guys. But some of the hottest women prefer black guys. So it’s general vs niche appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:10 AM
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Uhm, many bald men are far better looking than me or any guy I know
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:06 AM
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An average man is rarely attractive to women, with or without hair. As a man you have to stand out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:04 AM
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Like most women, instead of addressing his post you instead choose to attack him personally. That’s what toxic women do, reputation destruction. Fact is what he said in his post is true too often. Far too many modern women are narcisstic, entitled, rotten people who became this way the same way spoiled children became spoiled: by being put on a pedestal and not having consequences for their bad behavior due to our gynocentric society and brainwashed liberal soy muppet blue pilled simp enablers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:18 AM
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That’s me. Yes it’s a genetic component for women to desire a man who’s capable of providing for them and a family. But when the men of a culture mostly live with family until marriage, the women become socially conditioned towards not viewing that as a lack of ability to provide the way western women see it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:57 PM
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That’s because in those cultures it’s normal. Females tend to be socially conditioned drones that think and behave the way society/family/spouse taught them to. If almost every man is living with family it is not seen as being weak. In the western world, women see men who don’t live on their own as weak and unattractive in general. Unless he’s Chad or really young
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:35 PM
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You’re comparing blue pilled delusion and red pilled delusion and saying that the red pilled delusion is better. Red pilled delusions leaves you an empty man with nothing other than short term pleasures. The real goal of all life is to survive, thrive, and reproduce. If you don’t reproduce, even if you don’t want children, you’re a biological loser. Kids aren’t for everyone, some people are better off without them. But there are ways around the red pill scare tactics. First, don’t get legally ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:04 PM
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Rational and experienced men sometimes know more about women, than women know about themselves There are more highly rational men than women. Why do you think almost everything that was invented and built by the human race was done so by men? Most Women are more important for humanity than most men when they are feminine, supportive, and reproductive. Women are the foundation of a strong household, thriving family, and successful society. But modern women have been poisoned by feminism and it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:05 PM
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Correct. Western women often times aren’t good people, especially if they are attractive. Too many are brainwashed by society to be narcissistic and entitled feminists. Only a small percentage of them are traditionally good women who are kind, nurturing, submissive, and family oriented. You aren’t really missing out on anything anyways if they aren’t attracted to you. Most of them end up childless or single moms, on depression medication. So it’s best to either find a good western woman who wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:41 PM
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A lot of men who live with their parents, still have their parents doing everything for them as well like cooking and cleaningb
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:14 PM
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Sure but we live in America, I assume. Western women are pre programmed to see living with family as the inability to provide
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:57 PM
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You’re right but let’s be real, it’s a huge negative. Women are instinctively wired to seek men who can provide. Take care of them and children. It’s hard wired into their dna. If a prospective male lives with mommy that’s a huge negative But what you said is true. If it’s Chad who lives with mommy, his others qualities simply outweigh the negatives. So yes, if a woman is really into you, she will overlook a lot of things. But let’s not pretend a grown adult male living with mommy isn’t a huge n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:49 PM
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Definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:47 PM
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That’s funny but the real truth is that women are innately wired to seek a man who can take care of them. A man who’s being taken care of by “mommy” sends the subliminal signal that he can’t take care of her or a family. The reverse is not true, because men are not wired to seek a woman who can take care of them. So men don’t care if women live with their parents. It can even be seen as a plus
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:39 PM
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That’s funny Obviously Women don’t fuck you because of logic. Women fuck you based on emotion. Living with parents is an obvious huge negative with female attraction towards a man. Huuuge negative because women are wired to want a man who can take care of them, not one who’s being taken care of by mommy. Which means you have to be that much more attractive as a man to overcome that hurdle. That’s why it’s a sacrifice. You sacrifice your desirability to women, for future financial benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:37 PM
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You’re exactly correct. The real world and Reddit aren’t the same. Remember to never listen to what women say, especially on Reddit. Watch what they do in real life Actions>Words
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:30 PM
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There are millionaires that live with parents or sleep in their car, just to save on rent. And there are broke people who stay broke because they pay all of their money in rent. That loser who lives with his parents might be the winner 10 years down the road and own his own home. And that winner who has his own place might still be broke and paying rent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:29 PM
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Because equality is a lie that muppets believe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:26 PM
2

All people, men and women, shoot for the stars and want the best they can get when they have power. For women this power comes automatically with youth and beauty. For men, they often struggle in their youth and get most of their power from achievement. Because of this, most men don’t ever get any power because they don’t achieve anything. The men that do achieve things, like fitness and money, tend to have the vast majority of women interested in them. This creates that 20/80 dynamic. There are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:21 PM
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So you think you’re too good to be hit on by an ugly old man? That means you’re a narcissist and egotistical. Instead you could be flattered, but then say you’re not interested if they ask you out. But instead you make it all about you, and are grossed out, that’s sad. I have had ugly old ladies hit on me my entire life. I don’t recall ever being mean to them or being mad about it. I was flattered
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 05:02 AM
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You speak as if all women are a hive mind and you speak for all women. Sorry, you don’t. You speak for yourself, and maybe your little bubble of reality. In real life women go for the best man they can get. Usually that guy is within their age range plus or minus ten years. But when it comes to super high value men, super good looking dudes, super rich, super charming, etc… you see a lot more age gaps. Some of them are huge age gaps. 90% of older male celebrities are with women significantly you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:55 AM
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Exactly. Guy number 1 is gonna pull hot women in their 20s even when he’s 50+. Money or not. But angry women on ppd won’t admit it and claim that older men are unattractive predators
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:51 AM
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If you haven’t been rejected as a man, it means you’re a pussy. Dealing with rejection is part of being a man. You miss every shot you don’t take, and if you take shots you’re going to miss some
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:43 AM
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Such as? I googled it and all of them seemed mostly useless to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:19 AM
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The only reason to get married is because of social conditioning. The most hive minded humans, who tend to obey societal rules and are conformist by nature: are women. Therefore often times men assume they need to get married to find a woman who’s willing to give them children. But it’s a faulty assumption because most children are now born to single moms
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:22 AM
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Idiots might have said poor people shouldn’t have kids. That doesn’t make it true. Nature decides who does and doesn’t have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 12:28 AM
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Life isn’t about being happy per Se, it’s about being fulfilled. Happiness is a temporary feeling that is fleeting. People who strive to be happy end up miserable. Life is about having the best experience, which includes both ups and down. Sadness, suffering, and hardship are part of life. A certain amount of bad feelings are part of the human experience and are good for you. Too much is obviously horrible. The best meals are after you’re really hungry for example. People who say they are happy,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:40 PM
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Thanks for the links. Makes me question the whole friendzone stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:19 PM
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And that works better. But meeting people on dating apps and in venues with alcohol seems to not work as well except for short term
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:09 PM
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Another issue is that in our culture, most socializing involves alcohol and hedonism instead of something wholesome. And so when you do socialize, you meet the wrong kinds of people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:08 PM
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Freedom of choice is fine The problem is that women still get most of the benefits they got when they didn’t have freedom of choice. Women are a protected class in society. And now they are treated like deities. Blue pilled muppets worship women, simp for them. Our gynocentric society has resulted in males becoming a slave class and females becoming gods.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:07 PM
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Sounds good in theory until you look at the statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:02 PM
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I’m not for arranged marriages but statistically the marriages last longer and they have more kids. Also from what I understand both the man and women can say yes or no at the beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:59 PM
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30 isn’t old. Menopause is basically where most women become “old” by losing their fertility and sex appeal card over men. That starts happening around 45-55
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:59 AM
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That’s idealistic. In the real world all relationships have a power dynamic. The person with more power needs the other person less. Often power can flip back and forth but in general relationships tend to work best when the man has more power than the women. Why? Because women are wired that way by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 03:53 PM
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Terrible idea. Humans are meant to have sex with real people, reproduce with real people. Using a surrogate you could be reproducing with a very poor dna match. It doesn’t matter what their stats are, you can’t experience that person and your innate senses cannot select or de select them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 07:48 AM
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Many unattractive people, of any age, don’t realize they are unattractive. Older women are no different
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:38 AM
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Why do you keep bringing up “average” and “most”? Hot older guys get young women. It doesn’t matter that only a few older guys are hot. Either you’re hot or you’re not. If you’re hot, you can land young women into very late ages and even start a family. Hot and rich = you can get attractive women in their 20s and 30s even past 50, and not just gold diggers. Yes it’s a small pool of men. But rabid feminists try to shame that small pool of men. They aren’t shaming “average ugly” old men because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:59 PM
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Modern western women tend to be this way because our society is fucked up. There are standouts though. And Not all twenty year old women around the world are like that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:15 PM
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Yes, because women’s extreme selectivity works against themselves in the sense that there is a huge overlap of many women wanting the same few men. Meanwhile most men are incels or can barely land a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 07:41 PM
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All kinds of bloodline will be ending, with birth rates as low as they are. Especially men, but childless women too. And women who have sons, whose sons fail with women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:43 PM
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Those jobs have less than 1% females
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:55 PM
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The wall is when you can’t get what you want from the opposite sex. Men start at the wall and most stay there their entire lives. Top tier men break out of the wall and sometimes stay out until they are senior citizens, but that’s rare. Women start out valuable and hit the wall when their looks fade usually around 35-40 when the hottest guys are less likely to commit to them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:23 PM
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If the right young women came along I’d consider taking the dumb risk of marrying her even though I know it’s a dumb decision financially. More than likely I’d want to do a ceremonial, non legal marriage, or a prenup. Or both. Because statistics are what they are. The wall is real. Men start at the wall and most never get out. Women hit it close to 40 or when their looks fade. Either way women have more power than men in today’s sexual marketplace. By a significant margin. Only top tier men have…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:30 PM
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Yes, a situation-ship is most often a woman dating above her ability to gain commitment. It’s a man willing to fuck her but not commit to her because he doesn’t have feelings, or has better options
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:25 PM
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Outliers are where the magic happens. Average men aren’t even visible to women. The average man in 2024 is either an incel or has a tiny pool of available women much less attractive than himself. Only top tier men have an acceptable pool of women to date, because women have all the power in their prime and all go for the same top tier men. If you’re not an outlier, your dating life sucks as a man. As for my circumstances, it doesn’t have to be one thing or another, it could be many things. Perha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:15 PM
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Male fertility doesn’t decline the way female fertility does. Female fertility comes to a hard end at early middle age around 42-43. Male fertility lasts until death outside of health issues. Pregnancy complications risks go up with the father’s age, but the degree to which they go up is spun into a fake narrative. All individual risks are way under 1% even for men over 80
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:46 PM
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Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:42 PM
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Exceptional people don’t do what “most” people do. Average people do what most people do And in terms of feeling attraction, I have found women beautiful at almost all ages. For me, id even say 28-32 is the pinnacle of female beauty for hot women. That being said, I’m still much more likely to want to commit to marriage and family with a 25 year old than a 35
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:39 PM
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Studies are mostly garbage. You know who believes studies? Brainwashed people Most studies are barely scientific and are rife with bias and political correctness. Nothing beats proven science (totally different than “studies”) and common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:22 AM
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Yes there is. It happens around 40. The men their age who are the best looking, most successful, most charming etc… often go for more attractive younger women. Particularly for commitment and if they want children. It’s no different than women in their prime who have their choice often go for tall, strong, handsome, successful men. Nobody feels sorry for 99% of men who are invisible to women their entire lives. Why should we feel sorry for women when their value diminishes? At least they had val…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:54 AM
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Fake feminist narrative Most sperm banks use the range 18-45 And the reason is not that it’s “aged”. It’s because the chance for having lower quality sperm goes up with age. That means lower chance of success, which is not ideal for a sperm bank. It has nothing to do with men being infertile as they grow older. Theres a man in India who’s having healthy children in his 90s. Both al Pacino and Robert dinero just had newborns in their 80s https://www.cryosinternational.com/en-gb/dk-shop/private/ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:23 AM
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Male fertility lasts until health fails or death. Pregnancy risks are relatively low, below 1%, even for men over 80
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:29 AM
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Women tend to be significantly more socially conforming than men on average. So if I had to pick a hive mind sex, it would be women. But I didn’t mention other men I mentioned myself. Most men prefer youth in women similar to how women prefer height or success in men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:21 AM
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When did I say all men or all women want anything? All humans are individuals. In general though: women tend to like masculine, charming, tall, handsome, successful men. And men like feminine, nurturing, sexy, beautiful, youthful women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:18 AM

Yeah blame the man like always. It takes two to tango. If the sex is bad, they simply aren’t a match. One man could have great sex with one woman and not even get it up for a different woman. Blaming anyone shows contempt and hatred. Do you blame people for not being attracted to each other as well? Different people have different chemistry together
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:15 AM
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I’ve thought about it my entire life. I haven’t met the right woman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:43 PM
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I agree with that. That is largely due to social conditioning and also the fact that most older men aren’t high value. High value older men are a tiny percent of the male population: so it will never be a common thing Also, being successful alone isn’t what makes you “high value”. Being attractive does. That’s a combination of looks/money/status/charm etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:39 PM
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I agree with what you just wrote above, but not the previous one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:35 PM
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I’m a 43 year old man who’d marry the right woman who I could love and start a family with during the prime of her fertility, and not some bitter aging woman who’s picking me after she wasted her best baby making years partying and hooking up with other guys
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:32 PM
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That’s exactly incorrect. Men start at the wall, their default value is 0. Men have to become desirable through achievement. Refining their looks, personality, finances, status, etc. Most men never do and stay at the wall forever Women start out as valuable. They are innately more valuable than men. All they have to do is maintain their looks and a feminine personality. However once their beauty begins to fade, usually starting around 35-40, they begin to lose their power over higher value men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:28 PM
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You’re saying a bunch of feel good nonsense. The kind of thing far left people and democrats say. It sounds good on paper, an idealistic fantasy everyone is happy we are all valuable etc etc But in the real world guess what. Average guys are becoming incels. Women won’t give them the time of day, or ghost them. Women are the most brutal sexual selectors of all. They literally only fuck about 20% or less of the male population. The rest of men are either incels or batting way below their own look…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:20 PM
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There are 70 year old women who command male attention. That never ends. What changes is the type of guy you get attention from. High value men, defined as men who are desirable due to a combination of looks/money/status/charm are much less likely to commit to a woman whose beauty and fertility is rapidly declining. They might still fuck her, but they will marry the best they can get which will usually be a younger woman. And yes most men are born expired and stay that way. Men don’t magically b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:55 PM
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As a 43 year old man I can tell you that I wouldn’t marry a woman over 35 barring some extreme exceptions. And I’d absolutely marry the right 20 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:49 PM
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That’s exactly correct, but what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:43 PM
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Actually you do. A man who wants kids is not going to derive value by dating elderly women who can’t provide children That being said, most men have no value from start to finish. Only a tiny percentage of men ever have any value to most women at all. Whereas most women have good value by default just for existing and maintaining their beauty during their prime years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:42 PM
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What you said is true but has nothing to do with the topic. Men and women are immensely different. Women have intrinsic power during their fertile years that most men never have. It may sound shitty to hear that women hit a “wall” sometime between 35-45 where high value men are less likely to commit to them rather than a younger woman… Until you realize that 90+% of all men are born expired and stay that way for most of their lives. Men have to fight their way through the world and become attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:39 PM
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What you said is true but has nothing to do with the topic. Men and women are immensely different. Women have intrinsic power during their fertile years that most men never have. It may sound shitty to hear that women hit a “wall” sometime between 35-45 where high value men are less likely to commit to them rather than a younger woman… Until you realize that 90+% of all men are born expired and stay that way for most of their lives. Men have to fight their way through the world and become attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:39 PM
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Nobody should settle into any relationship they don’t want to be in. Men are definitely doing worse than women We live in a gynocentric westernized society which caters to women and has ruined many of their personalities making them unmarriageable. The result is crashing birth rates and more The problem is self correcting but may take decades or centuries
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:35 PM
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Those guys exaggerate. Men are born “expired” and have to fight their way out in order to not be expired Women just have to focus on their beauty and feminity and they have immense value intrinsically. With the catch that that power expires sometime near 40 or when their beauty expires
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:31 PM
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28 is still young. Things start changing for women closer to 35 or 40, but mostly dependent on how well the woman can maintain her beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:27 PM
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Not true. I’m 43. I can’t date a woman over 35 seriously. Women have most of their power early in life, Why would I commit to a woman who spent all that power on someone else? Men gain their power with their achievements. That includes their looks, which is extremely important. Men have to look good enough to attract young women, refine their personalities to make women have a great time around them, and build themselves into financial powerhouses to provide for a family. Women just have to turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:24 PM
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Who cares about the vast majority? Only people who want to be like everyone else. As a man you have to be top tier or you don’t get shit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:18 PM
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What people can or can’t do isn’t the same as desire Some women might prefer a Prince Charming Chad with a chiseled body, impeccably handsome, perfect personality and super rich and successful and also never boring. But they might end up with an average dude who they vibed with. Same thing happens to some men who want a young super hot ultra feminine submissive woman in her prime. They might end up with a fat woman near their own age. Not everyone gets what they want. Humans are adaptive though …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:16 PM
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Both are for smashing. But high value men want to commit to someone young, not old
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:12 PM
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You were exactly correct until you said 35 isn’t fertile for women anymore. You should edit that out. Most women are fertile up to their early forties. Fertility is over at mid forties for most women. That being said, as a 43 year old male I don’t really consider women over 35 for anything other than a casual relationship just like you said. The woman I marry, devote my life to, and start a family with is going to be young when we meet because that’s what biology and nature dictates. Men like fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:52 PM
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Modern women in modern countries are on average having the highest divorce rates and the least amount of children in recorded history. They are essentially contributing to population collapse and the end of bloodlines. Whether that’s good or bad is a hotly debated topic, but the statistics are real
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:45 AM
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The problem is self correcting but can take decades or centuries. When times are tough, like mating is for most men now, only those men who adapt will pass on their genes. Women have a much easier time and even many of them are ending up childless. They will have few or no descendents either. Future humans will descend from people who adapted to the situation. Either they made sacrifices, settled, or changed other variables which allowed for success. Such as becoming a high value male or finding…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:57 PM
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Because most people are socially conforming. In terms of science: There is an instinctual drive to pair bond and mate. Women are instinctually driven to aquire resources and protection from the father of their children and men are driven to ensure that they are the true father of the children whom they are providing for. Relationships tend to solve both problems at once. However in a truly biological sense: men can be polygamous so long as they are providing for their children, however women can…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:06 PM
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Hookup culture is 5%-20% of men having access to 64%-80% of women. Most people these days either meet through dating apps or nightlife. Women have most of the initial selective power because horny men are willing to sleep with women much less attractive than themselves. This creates a scenario, as dating app data supports, where almost all likes are going to the same few chads. The reason women on Reddit don’t admit this is because they are either delusional or unaware.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:25 PM
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Because women are like adult children and anyone with common sense knows it. They have massive mood swings, cry often, often behave erratically and impulsively, and run off of base instincts instead of logic most of the time. Men can’t behave this way and get away with it. They have to prove themselves to the world
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:24 AM
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How did you hurt your back?
/r/MensRights15/02/24 10:58 PM
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How did you get hurt?
/r/MensRights15/02/24 10:57 PM
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That’s an underestimate of sizes. Lots of guys are bigger than that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:12 AM
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That’s due to immigration. The native populations are going extinct
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:47 AM

I mostly agree with your assessment overall. However I personally think some men do infact look better in their forties. For example I think Brad Pitt looked his best in Troy. I think certain older characters, in their forties or fifties, have an appeal that younger men don’t: like James Bond. But that’s not youthful beauty and like you said, close to 30 is closer to actual physical peak
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:38 AM

Female lead is a masculine role, because leading is masculine. Supporting is feminine. You’d want to look at average age of supporting actresses, like James Bond’s girlfriends for example A quick google search yields the female leads are 32 on average. Not 38. 32 is a great age for women. 38 is at the tail end of most women’s ability to command a wide male gaze, although some women can into their 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:16 AM
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Practice. A neurodivergent person may always come off a little weird because their brain is wired differently. You gotta own that weirdness, and try to make it work for you while shoring up extremely obvious social flaws. just because you can’t be as good as Michael Jordan in basketball doesn’t mean you can’t become better than you used to be. You can always be the best version of yourself. So yes socially inept people can improve, sometimes even drastically, but most will always be slightly off…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:37 AM
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You’re simply pointing out that in general women seek out neurotypical men and immediately disqualify neurodivergent men. This is obviously true. Most women are socially conformist and are extremely sensitive to social awkwardness or autism. Often times, men who are incredibly intelligent in some way (such as math and science, or art) are socially inept and struggle with women. This isn’t really news. But some women DO like socially inept men. You just have to be the right type of weird for them…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:29 AM
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It’s gross because you envision gross men. Thats about as obvious as can be I can envision a gross 50 year old woman too. But I can also envision a voluptuous 50 year old milf with huge boobs, big ass, and fit body. Gross older people are gross. Most people are lazy and gluttonous and allow themselves to become gross with time. The few that don’t represent the attractive older people. Yes I have been attracted to older women many times, and I’ve also seen men way older than me, who are way bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:23 AM
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The blue pilled feminist women in this thread have their own version of reality which data and casual observation doesn’t support
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:23 PM
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Why is the average Hollywood male lead 43? Because they want to appeal to the widest female fan base, young and old
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:21 PM
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Yes to a point. All humans eventually start aging in a negative way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:19 PM
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Physical prime no but some are extremely good looking. And for women who like a more mature look you could argue they are at peak looks wise. Average Hollywood male lead is 43 for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:18 PM
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I’d say 25-30 for women and 30-35 for men is peak physical attractiveness for human who prioritize their looks and work at it. Some men can retain most of those looks to 60-70 whereas very few women can retain it past menopause. But both cases are obviously outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:17 PM
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You’re making a fallacious claim by comparing an attractive young man to unattractive older men. In reality many men peak in looks closer to 30 and some retain it well into their 40s and 50s. All you have to do is google average age of Hollywood leading male: 43 Appeals to the widest demographic of women. Young women call him daddy, to older women he’s eye candy; and to women near his age he’s a heart throb Men like Henry Cavill for example or Jason Mamoa or Paul walker or Bradd Pitt in his 40s.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:09 PM
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But that’s not true. I’m downvoted because this is “ask women” and most of the women on reddit are far left democrat nuts who hate Elon. Amber heard, who was smoking hot, could fuck any rich and famous guys she wanted. She chose Johnny depp and Elon. You’re basically projecting your personal bias onto Elon as if there is no women on the world who would like him if he wasn’t rich and that’s simply not true. He’s tall, white, intelligent , ambitious, hard working, etc. Yes he has many flaws and ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:30 PM
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Just because you’re not attracted to Elon doesn’t mean other women aren’t. There are women who are attracted to and love men who are short fat and ugly and boring. There are billions of people on this planet. He has like 10 children. Enough women found him attractive to mate with him and sire 10 offspring. You’re imposing your opinion onto all women in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:24 AM
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Male sex drive isn’t higher than womens. Libido is very individual, either sex can be high or low. It also varies and isn’t the same every day week and month. The insatiable drive you speak of is an illusion of desperation created by lack of sexual access and full seminal vesicles. Men who have sexual access, and get laid regularly (thus emptying the seminal vesicles) have similar libido to women on average, aside from individual variation and variation with time and health. TLDR: The men who th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:09 AM
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Because it’s wrong. Female sexuality is different than men’s but it isn’t less than men’s. The reason for the disparity in sexual power in today’s sexual marketplace is due to the fundamental biological fact that eggs are more valuable than sperm, making females more selective than men. Female empowerment has also multiplied women’s selectivity, and this is combined with the fact that there are more boys born than girls throwing off sex ratios in the absence of war in prime mating age ranges. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:02 AM
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Perhaps that’s how you mean it Blue pill means you believe in the same delusions everyone else does Red pill means you see reality for what it is, even if it’s upsetting or politically incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:47 PM
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Women are typically far more valuable than men by default, and at a younger age. Egg>Sperm Men have to prove to the world, and to women, that they are desirable. Most men throughout history failed miserably at this, and women were up to 17x more sexually successful. Women often chose the most attractive men with more power, usually older. https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success Forced monogamy changed these ratios a bit, by making similar age couples the norm (male slightly ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:08 PM
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That doesn’t sound blue pilled to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:04 PM
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Muslim countries and African countries. If you are higher value than the other men there
/r/MensRights04/02/24 05:21 AM

Actually this is true depending on your standards and if you have any deal breakers. For example you could be a 6 4 fit millionaire who’s well hung and charming but you’re the wrong race or you’re bald or you hold your fork wrong. So you might still struggle with women in general despite being a 9+ in the majority of categories. The good news is that Dealbreakers are often appealing to niche women. For example some women may love your race, or a shaved head, or that you hold your fork as you ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:33 AM

There are 8.5 males who struggle because they are the wrong race in the demographic they are in, or they have a dealbreaker like they stutter or have anxiety around women. For example imagine an 8.5+ Indian/Asian male with social anxiety and a stutter trying to pick up girls at stagecoach where everyone is white.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:25 AM
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Yes but that’s like saying some people enjoy donuts In general eating lots of donuts regularly isn’t good for you In general living a hedonistic life of short term sexual gratification isn’t good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:25 AM
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That’s how I am. I basically am only attracted to less than 5% of women. So I’m as picky as women are, except I’m a guy. I tend to spend a lot of time alone in between finding mutual connections because of that, but I’m used to it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:54 AM
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Spinning plates is extremely stupid, hedonistic, short term gratification that leads you nowhere in life. Rollo tomassi and the original red pill recommendations are often just as stupid as feminism. But many people needed to hear something so extreme to break them out of blue pilled delusions. In real life there are no right anwers, only best guesses. Trad cons are trying to emulate something that’s worked for thousands of years. That doesn’t mean it’s the only way, but it’s historically effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:02 AM
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Alpha beta is an oversimplification of the fact that humans are hierarchal animals. The mainstream red pill stuff is just exaggerated truths, a kind of feminism for men. It’s extreme so that it breaks you out of blue pilled delusion. The actual truth isn’t about alphas and spinning plates and all that nonsense. The real red pill is that humans are hierarchal animals, including women. Women are extremely sexually selective and choose the best men. Therefore, becoming the best man you can be, whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:33 AM
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People talk about income so much. If you already have millions you don’t need income other than the interest the money you have earns
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:08 AM
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Millions of women would though. Especially young attractive foreign women from less prosperous countries. Even American women from less affluent neighborhoods who aren’t super materialistic would love to live a life where work was an option and not a necessity. You can live very well with 100k a year in a place like Idaho or Montana or any non urban place. You won’t make it in New York or San Francisco obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:20 AM
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You hit the nail on the head And it all falls under this need to be offended or appalled against some made up injustice, a victim mentality, where they can virtue signal how empathetic they are and how evil the oppressor is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:15 AM
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Age is unique to the individual. Some people are very young in their 40s meanwhile others are already growing old Everyone also has their own life path. People don’t all do everything on the same timeline
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:11 AM
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I used to make 400k but now make about 200k. My future income is also not guaranteed because I’m in a sun setting industry. So my income could be 0 soon. But I have a high net worth for my age 43. I could basically retire if I wanted to live a very modest lifestyle. Even without income, maybe just passive income from the money I already have I believe I have enough money saved to raise a family and support a stay at home wife if I live somewhere cheaper than big cities or another country.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:32 PM
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I’m a multi millionaire and make six figures annually. None of that is printed on my forehead, so nobody really knows. I don’t flaunt my wealth, although these days you could argue it’s not even wealthy due to inflation and crazy home prices
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:41 PM
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I have to agree here. While there are many bitter older women, the truly indoctrinated are young college age people who are essentially brainwashed by leftist academia and viewpoints
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:25 PM
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Women evolved to generally be agreeable and socially conforming as this conferred survival and reproductive benefit. Their symbolic animal is the sheep Men evolved to be disagreeable and challenge social order until they achieve greatness or are put in their place through hardship and consequences. Their symbolic animal is the wolf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:13 PM
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Although I’d agree with you, this actually is part of the woke phenomenon. Age gaps are very socially unpopular with young women these days who’ve been brainwashed by feminism and leftist virtue signaling bullshit. But they still act upon instinct when the older guy is a celebrity, a sugar daddy, or super high status in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:09 PM
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Most of the risk is coming from the mother That data shows the father’s contributing risk is under 1% even for 80 year old fathers. Read the data in the actual studies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:16 PM
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All of those studies show the same low risk. Do you know how to read data? Many of them show a 60% increased risk for fathers over 50. But the starting risk is under 1% from the father’s side. 60% more risk of under 1% risk is still under 1% in their data. Do you understand math?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:13 PM
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That’s a narrative you believe if you’re low iq and recite man hating feminist disinformation. Those observational studies don’t show causation, only observations. While the observed chances of having a child with autism do go up with the father’s age, on average: the chance of a 40-50 year old man having an autistic child with a mother who is also 40-50 is 1.58% compared to 1.5% if both parents are in their 20s. https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/link-parental-age-autism-explained/ As you can se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:00 PM
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Abortion isn’t the topic of debate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:51 PM
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Being weird can be beneficial. It’s usually a negative and implied that way by socially conforming sheep. But the only way to be better than the majority is to be different than them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:06 PM
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Yes that’s odd behavior. Thats why I used the word usually If it were an African tribesman who got lost in an urban city, I wouldn’t think it was weird at all. Because I know he comes from somewhere that it would be normal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:36 PM
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What good is a contract that you can break at any time? It has no value. Marriage is now simply a trap for men. The only good that really comes out of it is perhaps the temporary state of the honeymoon phase and if you’re lucky a child or two. But those things can be done without marriage as you mentioned. Personally I don’t think I’d ever legally marry anymore but I would have a ceremonial marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:28 PM
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Marriage doesn’t even work anymore. Divorce rates are over 80% in urban areas. We live in a time period where hedonism has taken precedence. If a man wants to pass on his bloodline he has to adapt to what works and that might mean just having baby mamas at this point. It’s a brave new clown world
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:09 PM
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Abortion is taking away the future life of a person. You’re only looking at it from the selfish perspective of the mom, who regrets getting pregnant. What about that child who never got to live? Who are you to judge that child doesn’t deserve to live or wouldn’t have lived a great life? And you also have no right to determine what a 60 year old chooses to do. It’s his life. If nature made him capable of attracting a fertile woman, and then made her pregnant, who are you to say he did wrong? Look…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:55 PM
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Statistically it’s usually women who leave men, not the reverse. 90% of divorces are filed by women Most older men who marry a young woman aren’t going to dump her because she got older. Men tend to be loyal although they do cheat sexually and I read that men are. MOre likely to leave during medical issues. However It’s women who are usually pragmatic. They will dump the guy who loses his job and financial ability
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:46 PM
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Ethics exist in certain situations. Survival and mating are amoral. If I have to kill a deer to feed my village then it wasn’t unethical. If I have to fuck 22 year olds when I’m 60 to pass on my bloodline and have children and grandchildren then that’s what I will do. I don’t give a shit about a woke muppets opinions on ethics when it comes to survival and reproduction. These same people shaming age gaps, which is age discrimination and falsely portraying young adults over 18 as helpless victims…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:43 PM
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There are no ethics. Sexual strategy is amoral. Most humans, male and female are biologically programmed in their own self interest and reproductively propagating their dna. Women are far more sexually selective than males even. Women do what’s in their best interest and men should too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:35 PM
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Life is complicated. What if he spent years in prison? What if he had disease or illness in youth and was cured later? What if he didn’t meet the right woman until later? What if he became desirable late in life? You have no right to tell someone they can’t do something which they are capable of doing. You’re basically telling me that the man is incapable of something But we are talking about men who are capable. We aren’t talking about 50 year old men who CANT get young women. What would be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:29 PM
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He shouldn’t care what you think if he has any self respect. He’s shooting his shot. Thats what men do, they try. Listen to yourself talk, you think your shit doesn’t stink. You think you’re better than others
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:25 PM
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You not liking that some unattractive older guy tried to make a move on you reveals your own character more than anything. When an unattractive old lady hits on me I react with flattery even though I’m not interested. I don’t blame her for shooting her shot or finding me attractive. You being disgusted shows that you’re a narcissist. You’re afraid that maybe an unattractive man hitting on you, the mere idea that he’d think he’d have a shot with you, should have never crossed his mind because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:22 PM
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What you’re describing is the woke mind virus. False victimhood, moral outrage, moral weaponization, virtue signaling. It’s weak people trying to appear relevant by judging others. You should read the story of Grover Cleveland, a US president who married a teenager when he was about 50. They ended up having like 10 kids and a really good marriage. There are millions of stories just like this but it makes man haters extremely upset
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:18 PM
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There is no law that says 2 adults over 18 can’t have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:10 PM
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None of that matters. If a 20 year old woman is with a 55 year old man your opinion on why she is with him is irrelevant. It could be for any reason or no reason. What you’re actually doing is age discrimination against the man and trying to justify it through the false victimhood of an adult female. It’s not much different than if you were trying to shame inter racial relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:08 PM
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There is no reason not to date young women who are adults, if you’re able to attract them, even if you’re 100 years old as a man. Women are allowed to have preferences such as height. Men are allowed to have preferences such as youth
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:04 PM
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Old women can still get sex easier than almost any man. They just can’t often get the men they want to commit to them. So many of those women choose to be single, bitter, and socially shame those men for dating young attractive women. They also try to indoctrinate young women into their male hatred, as a form of mothering the children they never had due to their own poor life choices
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:54 PM
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Men who took care of themselves in their 40s aren’t old. Many are better looking than when they were younger. The average Hollywood male lead is 43 Women do magically go for you in your 40s if you are ATTRACTIVE. Money and social status also makes men more attractive to women just like big tits make women more attractive to men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:45 PM
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Murdering an unborn child is not empowering. I’m not going to have a debate about abortion because I believe there are cases where it is needed, but in most cases it’s a woman being selfish after making a decision she regrets
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:42 PM
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If the boys over 18 then yes. Lucky 18 year old guy gets to live his milf fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:40 PM
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Most Women are socially conforming and like to socially shame. All u do is confirm that sheep behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:39 PM

You sound like someone who’s triple vaxxed, orders soy lattes, and votes for Biden Most red blooded males want to fuck hot women, especially 18-35, regardless of how old they themselves are. There is a hormone called testosterone that helps make your dick hard when you see a hot woman. It’s called nature propagating the species. If you think old men aren’t attracted to young women just because they get old, then you must believe that old women suddenly like short guys when they become old even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:38 PM
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Sometimes on a debate sub like this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:34 PM
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People who use the word weird are usually socially conforming sheep
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:33 PM
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It’s weird to you because, like most women, it seems like you are socially conforming If I was 50 year old man who hasn’t had kids, it’s literally written into my dna to reproduce through instinct. That 50+ man has to be healthy and attractive enough to get the 21 year old woman in the first place. Most men at that age cannot do it. For the men who can: I’d give him a high 5 and congratulate him on success. Not try to socially shame him and call him weird
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:32 PM
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Because woke people are hippocrits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:28 PM
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Because it’s another avenue where women pretend to be victims and so it’s a talking point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:27 PM
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This is because the woke mind virus is spreading. It’s already taken over much of Western Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:25 PM
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You can bother anyone, anywhere, any time, if you are willing to deal with the potential consequences. If the risk/reward is worth it to you then stop listening to virtue signaling muppets on Reddit and do whatever u want in life. Date an 18 year old when you’re over 50 Approach a woman at the gym who has headphones on Fart in an elevator Drive over the speed limit You can Live your life however the fuck you want within reason
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:52 PM
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Because those people are brainwashed woke muppets and their opinions aren’t worth listening to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:44 AM
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Well said but muppets and feminists get offended by that type of truth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:24 AM
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The less you care about what women say they want, the more they want you The nice guys who try to appease women by kissing their asses, following a feminist agenda, putting the woman first, treating her like a queen, and not expecting traditionally feminine things like submissiveness, nurturing, caretaking etc are the ones who end up ghosted, lonely, or cucked Men should pay for everything if women are doing all the housework and childcare. Because You can treat a woman like a queen if she treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:18 AM
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The earth has ice ages and warming ages. What use is it to be mad about it? The best thing you can do in any scenario is adapt We live in an unprecedented time where women have more freedom and more power than ever before. This is compounded by a surplus of men in most western countries. This creates a dating hellscape for many men. The only way to adapt is to become the best version of yourself, and try to interact with women who are not completely brainwashed by feminism and still value femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:01 PM
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I have no idea how women should live their lives and I don’t suggest they live in any particular way. What I do know is that I’ve observed women who hit middle age and then claim that they were lied to by feminism and are now childless and angry about it. Like I said, I don’t wish negative on anyone. I actually wish the best for everyone whether they have a big family or are childless or whatever. But I am sharing my observations. Those observations are anecdotal and not concrete. There isn’t a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:47 AM
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And it will be interesting to see what happens to their societies in the near future
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:19 AM
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Yes it’s an even bigger problem in Korea and Japan. And they don’t have the immigration to counteract it It will be interesting to see what the result is Males are dropping out of their society from what I’ve read: calling themselves herbivore men and saying they want nothing to do with females.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:07 AM
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People can live however they want. I don’t wish suffering upon anyone. But that doesn’t mean that every choice you make in life doesn’t have consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:58 AM
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There are still women in this world who want to be mothers, and homemakers. Who don’t look at pregnancy in the same negative light that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:57 AM
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Ya it’s common. Why do you think western society demographics are collapsing and the lack of children is being replaced by immigration meanwhile men are flocking to foreign countries to find quality women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:32 AM
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Didn’t women throughout history do the majority of childcare? Have humans been wrong for thousands of years?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:29 AM
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How does it make sense for a man to provide for the entire family and do 50% of childcare meanwhile the mother provides zero income and does 50% of childcare That is not an equal split If the man provides for the entire family financially and also protects them, meanwhile the women provides 0 financially why would the childcare be split evenly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:00 AM
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If they don’t want him then the example wouldn’t happen and there is nothing to talk about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:41 PM
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Yet Elon musk has like 10 kids Life isn’t easy for anyone. You can make excuses and give up, or accept the hand you are dealt and make the most of it When life hands you lemons, make lemonade Yes we know you are playing on ultra hard mode. 0.2 fertility rate is ultra low and shows how cutthroat female selectivity is. Imagine winning with those odds stacked against you. Now THATS impressive
/r/BlackPillScience12/01/24 11:14 PM
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It is well known that a percentage of men went from ugly ducklings to golden gooses That’s why there’s a saying that men are made You’re right that you don’t “randomly” become better. But there are men who learn and practice social skills, start businesses, start dressing better, get in good shape, and ultimately go from being invisible to being extremely desirable. It’s more common than you may realize Hard work can seriously pay off for men, which is why red pill emphasizes self improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:21 PM
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Exactly. Bitter women don’t understand that and instead try to shame men who are capable of it for dating much younger women Why would a tall rich successful charismatic men in his 30s and 40s go for the women who didn’t want him when he was in his 20 or who spent their youth partying and not settling? Why wouldn’t he go find a young woman who didn’t make those poor choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:22 PM
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You basically proved the OPs point. Those men, if they become attractive and successful and socially charismatic enough when they are older, can now ignore women their age who went through that hookup phase and find a young woman who chooses not to do that. And this is exactly what makes so many women bitter Obviously it’s only a tiny percentage of men who have glow ups and are capable of this but they do exist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:20 PM
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Anywhere without feminism. My point is if you’re a desirable man, you can potentially mate with foreign women and not have to deal with the threat of child support to financial ruin you. You could support your child without having to support a freeloading mother like many women do in western countries to take advantage of the laws
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:54 PM
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You’re thinking inside the box of localized relationships though. That’s our social norm What if starting a family or families around the world and supporting them turns out to be a better strategy in all regards then being divorced or child support raped by an American woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:34 PM
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That sounds perfect but feminists are pushing the narrative that men should be doing 50% of the child rearing: essentially turning men into mothers which in my opinion is not biologically correct Sure, men being good fathers like you described and helping out is fine. But 50/50 split of motherly duties sounds like new age bullshit on the same level of believing there are 100 genders
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:17 PM
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Technically all it takes is having sex and finishing inside of a woman until she gets pregnant. Usually there is a courting process but I’m pretty sure a 40 year old woman who wants kids knows there is no time left for that. I met a 42 year old woman the other day (I’m 43) who said she’s open to children and is down to start trying with me immediately, although she has no clue if she can have them. I’m not even joking I didn’t text her because I met a woman in her twenties shortly after and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:14 PM
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Exactly. Different women think differently about it. But feminists will push that it’s awful
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:11 PM
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Sexual selection plays a huge role in evolution. Just not in every single case
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:00 PM
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As a traditional women, what are your thoughts on how childcare should be split up? Should women do the vast majority of it while men provide and play the role of a disciplinarian and role model. Or do you think men should be doing motherly duties as well like changing diapers and spending loads of time with the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:42 PM
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Women are not supposed to be submissive and agreeable to everyone. They first have to vet and choose a man. Women innately shit test men subconsciously. If the man passes and proves he’s masculine, and the woman falls in love, she enters her feminine which is agreeable and submissive to him
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:38 PM
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You do realize that the women posting here don’t represent all women right? There is a large subset of women that love family, love being mothers, love being caretakers, and love more traditional setups. The rabid feminists u see here don’t represent all women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:34 PM
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Most women are still fertile at 40. However I read that 90% are infertile by 43. 35-40 is a steep decline but the vast majority of women are fertile in that range
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:54 AM
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I never said those men should have had children. They are being naturally selected out And no most men die childless. Especially when females have the power of choice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:26 AM

Because most people are sheep and brainwashed. Long term consequences were unknown. You’re free to live your life as you want and so am I. If you think being childless or a single mom, or divorced, or in hookup culture, or in an unhappy marriage are great than good for you because those are all of todays norms. Personally I’d rather shoot for a fantasy more like the 50s where the father works all day, provides for everyone, and the mother takes care of the home and children. Yes that wasn’t perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:38 AM
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All I can say is you’re free to live your life as you wish and have your thoughts and opinions. And I will do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:34 AM

Women were not hunting with a baby on their back that would be extremely foolish. Are you reading feminist comics?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:32 AM

Pregnancy is something the species depends on. Gangbangs are not Anti natalist rhetoric about how awful pregnancy and motherhood is, is a sign of social anti natalist feminist brainwashing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:26 AM
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This is exactly what most muppets don’t understand. Having money actually makes men more attractive to most women. That doesn’t mean they are a gold digger and wants his money. Just like big tits or a nice ass make women hotter to most men. That doesn’t mean most men want to pump and dump her. Both situations increase genuine desire. Mens attractiveness is often based on capability and things like money, height/muscles and charm (social capability) make men hot. Meanwhile women’s attractiveness …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:10 AM

Are you denying that modern marriage and birth rates are a failure? If it wasn’t for immigration there would already have been a population collapse and social security and other programs would be failing Societies economic model can’t support more old people and less young people Not to mention the genders hate each other more than ever before. And now there are hundreds of genders
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:02 AM

Gee I wonder how marriages worked in the 50s where men went out and worked, and did little to no child care. And wives stayed home and took care of the home. Oh wait back then divorce rates were low and birth rates were high. 3-8 kids per family But your feminist nonsense of a father sitting home changing diapers along with the mother works so well that birth rates are approaching 0 and divorces are 80% and 90% filed by women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:40 AM
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I agree with you except about childbirth. My belief is that childbirth is a very difficult but very rewarding experience. Much like a hard workout or swimming in cold water.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:07 AM
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Correct I can only share the opinions of other women which I’ve read. I don’t know anything other than what I’ve heard. The experience is probably not universal That being said, congrats on ur pregnancy and being a mother because I actually regard good mothers extremely highly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:55 AM
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I have no idea. That’s why I didn’t make a claim. I’ve read that some women love being pregnant and giving birth and I shared that link
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:52 AM

Many don’t. Some do. People make their own choices in life Hopefully the mother of my children loves being a mother and doing most of all of the childcare. I will do little to none because I do not believe it’s a man’s role to do so. The man goes into the world and provides for his family and that’s what I’ll do. As well as guide, and help a little. For most of history, this is how families operated. And people had 5-10 kids and divorce was rare. Now with them trying to turn men into women and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:48 AM
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I said “some” women love it and provided and link https://www.reddit.com/r/BabyBumps/s/6b2OiXytRN That’s not making a strong claim like that pregnancy is universally hated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:45 AM

Men are not wired to equally parent and do family home responsibilities. That’s feminist nonsense Men are wired to be fathers. Role models, disciplinarians, there less consistently. Because men had to go out into the world and make things happen, fight wars, hunt, provide for the family Men are not mothers. Mothers are nurturing, caretakers, and biologically wired to spend far more time with children Modern social norms wants to turn millions of years of evolution upside down and then blame men …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:44 AM
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I didn’t say that. I specifically said “if you haven’t been pregnant” But you have, so that validates your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:40 AM
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I don’t know at all. That’s why I’m not making claims
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:39 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/BabyBumps/s/6b2OiXytRN I don’t think all women’s experiences are the same. But sorry to hear it was bad for you, however congrats on your child! That’s a blessing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:38 AM
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I’m not the one making claims
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:33 AM
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You didn’t love pregnancy and childbirth? Why do some women love it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:28 AM
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Seeing the responses to this post, it’s going to be very hard to feel sorry for childless women over 50 in the future when they willingly chose it and refused to listen any pro family, pro children opinions at all. To be honest I will still feel sorry for all the lonely childless old people our future will have. Far more men will be childless than women however more women would have chosen it willfully whereas I think most childless men would be the old psuedo incels who were simply not selected…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:26 AM

If you’ve never been pregnant you don’t know. What it sounds like is you are reciting anti Natalist feminist propaganda. Some women love being pregnant and love the experience of having given birth to new life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:23 AM
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Exactly. Modern dating is actually fertility negative. Birth rates are spiraling towards 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:14 AM
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I strongly agree with the first half of what you wrote and am neutral or slightly disagree with the second half. I do believe that women have a massive advantage in both sex and relationships until about age 40 where women begin to approach pre menopause, after which men start having a power advantage in long term relationships as compared to women their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:01 AM
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That’s your opinion. Objectively neither sex is better looking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:54 AM
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That’s because secondary sexual characteristic wise it’s capability makes men attractive and fertility makes women attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:53 AM
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This isn’t true, it’s just that we live in a fat society and men generally need low body fat levels to really highlight their secondary sexual characteristics (chiseled face, chiseled Adonis body) whereas women’s secondary sexual characteristics like tits and ass are made of fat. Men are also tall and broad shoulders and deeper voices which are very attractive to hetero women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:49 AM
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It’s not that men don’t have emotions. It’s that men who behave like women are seen as weak, and unattractive by most people. That doesn’t mean women are weak, it means men who behave like women are seen that way. Women behaving like men isn’t usually attractive either. Women are considered strong in different ways than men. It’s not like one sex is better than the other. Let’s not pretend the sexes aren’t different though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:28 AM
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Doesn’t matter what you like, truth isn’t always likable. Tired of politically correct nonsense. And ofcourse love your insult calling me an incel because I said something you didn’t like. Men who behave like women are seen as weak. Doesn’t mean women are weak. It means men who act like women appear weak to most people Imagine a man being emotional, crying easily, shopping a lot, always doing his hair and nails. Running away from danger and screaming. Let’s be real
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:13 AM

The process is the reward U don’t have to workout 4 hours But the process of working out is the real reward. The experience, the consistency, the discipline. That’s the reward. The fact that you look better and are healthier are just additional benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:48 PM
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There are biological differences between men and women that have nothing to do with social constructs. Not just physically but mentally as well. Those play into what became social norms for men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:55 PM
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I’ve noticed this same thing
/r/MensRights11/01/24 05:30 AM
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College educated women initiate 90% of divorces
/r/MensRights11/01/24 05:25 AM
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Being red pilled doesn’t make you alpha Your actions and behaviors do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:56 AM
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Good for you. Some people take social risks and hit on women in public
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:32 AM
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Ofcourse you pick your battles. That’s why I said when appropriate. Being disagreeable and non conforming for no reason is just stupid and hostile. But if you see a hot girl you want to talk to, and you’re somewhere inappropriate, and will never see her again otherwise. You might want to risk it and hit on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:56 AM
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Because modern society is full of fragile, feminized men. Women can have an opinion, but that opinion is irrelevant to men who go after what they want. Feminine men are agreeable and conforming. They are afraid of upsetting women and breaking social norms. Masculine men are disagreeable and non conforming (when appropriate) because they are mentally capable of handling negative social consequences and are also prepared for hostility and violence if need be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:32 AM
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Weak men behave like women. Women are extremely sensitive to social Norms. Being agreeable and conforming is very feminine. Being disagreeable and non conforming when appropriate is masculine, because you risk hostility and violence. Masculine men violate social norms when they feel like it because they believe they can handle the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:26 AM
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All of those social norms are shit tests. Beta muppets follow rules and alphas break them. Weak men are afraid of the consequences: shame, embarrassment, and rejection. Strong men have the mental strength to handle shame, embarrassment, and rejection. It’s very masculine to be disagreeable and non conforming when appropriate because aside from social consequences you also risk hostility and violence. There are plenty of chads (not necessarily in looks but in mental strength) out there who will b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:22 AM
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Indians often claim they are anything but Indian. Lol many say Italian Saying your Indian or Pakistani will get you instantly deleted by 80% of western women. And the remaining 20% will usually lose some level of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:43 PM
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Self reported and observational studies are mostly garbage. Most studies in general are garbage due to bias but those types are especially bad. For example, anecdotally, most of the chads I know have slept with hundreds of women. And I know dozens of chads
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:32 PM
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Yes, this happens to me as well as my friends. In reality you are not the same guy. You have different body fat levels, different muscle, different posture, different pheromones. Every day we choose who we are and the lifestyle of our last 90 days reflects in our looks. So if you lived like a loser for 90 days and then lived like a winner for 90 days you would get greatly different reactions
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:17 AM
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Women have most of the power, but that’s a dangerous scenario because it often makes women ultra selective to the point where they choose nobody and either end up as single moms or childless. Even then, far more men will die childless than women. There is a silent epidemic of mass male loneliness because only a tiny percentage of single men are desired by women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:12 AM
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Toxic femininity also includes false accusations, shaming, social destruction, character assassination, playing a victim, and so forth
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:09 AM
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Same here. I don’t ever force relationships. The closest most natural relationship I’ve had was when I was 36 and she was 22. I’ve actually tried forcing myself to date older women and it seems to always be short term or sexually based because it’s so rare for women over 40 to not have children and want to start a family and have kids at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:55 PM
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Nope. If anything I’m forcing it when dating women my age. I have very little in common with women in their 40s even though some are still very attractive. Especially considering I was a late bloomer and would like to have a family with kids in the future. My best most natural relationships have been with women at least 10 years younger, if not 15 or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:52 PM

Reddit is a tyrannical far left shithole. Most subs ban you for saying anything that favors masculinity, conservatism, anti wokeness, red pill, etc You’re only allowed to think one way on most of Reddit. You must hate trump, you must constantly virtue signal about how awful someone or something is, you must always support women and be against men, you must always support the left and not the right; and you can’t say politically incorrect things
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:49 AM
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Absolutely not true in practice. My friend is 6 6 and very average looking. He gets swarmed by women for his height. A decent percentage of women fetishize height the way a certain percentage of men fetishize big boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:44 AM
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Yes a 5 should be average. A 7 is very good looking. But 8-10 women are usually extremely hard to deal with unless you have high social skills. They simply have too many options and a lot of narcissim most of the time. Him being able to pull them does indicate his social skills are high A 7 male with a good career and poor social skills would struggle with women over a 7
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:22 AM

I agree and this is also true in reverse. The difference is that women don’t try to change mens mind, they try to socially assassinate them for having normal male preferences. If you prefer women significantly younger then you’re a creep and a predator. If you won’t date fat women you’re shallow. If you want a woman with big tits you’re a pervert. If you prefer foreign women it’s because you’re a loser. If you want a submissive woman then you’re a control freak. Normal male preferences for attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:23 AM
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He’s a 7 to you. He might be an 8 to them. Maybe he’s got a charm that you’re unaware of since you don’t know him that way. Maybe he’s not your type, but he is of those women Men that are 7s don’t easily date women who are 8-10s just because the guy has a good career. He’s got something else going for him which you’re unaware of. It could be anything. Perhaps charisma, or game
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 10:16 PM
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If he can actually date those woman, then he’s just as attractive as them. He’s probably good looking enough, and then stellar in other areas you may not be aware of Most guys cannot get an 8-10 woman to even look their direction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 10:09 PM
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Are you sure you aren’t just biased to find more women to be attractive than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 09:58 PM
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There’s all kinds of people in this world
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:20 PM
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Not everyone has the same morals. One can be a moralist with different morals than you, while simultaneously understanding that sexual selection is an amoral process. I’d like to believe I strive for virtue myself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:03 PM
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Everyone lives in their own little bubble. Your bubble seems quite looksmatched. I think most couples are looksmatched, looks are both objective and subjective though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:59 PM
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It’s more like labeling yourself as Christian but actually being agnostic and believing the stories are allegories. There is a lot more red pill than social cues. The main thing is understanding female nature. Things like hypergamy, the Pareto principle, and briffaults law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Briffault#:~:text=writer%20and%20translator.-,Briffault's%20law,no%20such%20association%20takes%20place.%20—
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:46 AM
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Because I like most of the ideas. I feel they take subtle uncomfortable truths and take them way too far
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:36 AM
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Blue pill is delusion and red pill is exaggerated uncomfortable truths. All pills are somewhat interesting, blue red black white. The truth is obviously very complicated and perhaps different for everyone. But the whole point is breaking that blue pilled delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:30 AM
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Yes blue pilled men are brainwashed muppets.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:19 AM
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U do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:43 AM
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I have no idea who deserves what. I wish the best for everyone to be honest. Unless they are harming others with malicious intent
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:05 AM
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Who deserves what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:01 AM

That’s all idealistic fairy tale nonsense. You should read briffaults law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Briffault#:~:text=writer%20and%20translator.-,Briffault's%20law,no%20such%20association%20takes%20place.%20— It explains why 90% of divorces are filed by women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:00 AM

Women are opportunistic lovers. When the benefit they derive from the male ends, so does their “love” for that male
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:53 AM

Id change few to many
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:51 AM
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I believe women love men conditionally. And it’s a form of infatuation Women fall out of love and then forget all the good memories. Men who believe women are loyal are the ones who end up blindsided Female nature is quite brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:45 AM

Once you learn the true nature of women it’s very hard to love them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:37 AM
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Women tend to be a lot more socially brainwashed than men and believe in fairy tales. That’s why it’s often women you see reading horoscopes, doing astrology, believing in crystals, believing in energy, believing in soul mates. This is further compounded by the fact that women under 40 have a much, much easier time getting a partner than men. So women are more likely to be blue pilled and talk about true love bullshit. Men get red pilled pretty fast after years of struggling to get a single date…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:30 AM

Humans have understood how reproduction works for thousands of years. Many men in history, kings and more, have wanted heirs. Human males know what they are doing. Some men choose to not have kids and some choose to have them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:23 AM

Male dna bloodlines dying out has nothing to do with gender ratios. If you have no kids or grandkids, none of them will be either male or female. Because you have no descendants. So your comment makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:20 AM

https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/darwin/evolution-today/natural-selection-vista
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:12 AM

That’s false. Fathers love their children. But fathers are not mothers and don’t love the same way. A father loves best through setting good example and providing discipline and guidance. His presence isn’t as necessary as a mothers. Humans evolved this way because men often had to go out and accomplish things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:10 AM

All meaning in life is based upon a perspective. You shared your perspective of what has meaning. That doesn’t make it true What is the meaning of life? The answer is different for everyone If I think it’s meaningful to fuck hot women and pass on my dna to future generations then it’s meaningful. And if you study biology, the basic programming of most life forms is to survive, thrive, and reproduce. Organisms which don’t reproduce are usually considered biologically unsuccessful. I find meaning …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:05 AM
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I believe they are unfiltered words of truth. For men of any age. However the older you get, the more you may value companionship over sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:57 AM
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Are you virtue signaling because those don’t sound like testosterone laden words from a man. Men want to date and fuck attractive young women with nice tits and ass. And if she’s also a high quality woman, they want to LTR her and have children. That’s the normal testosterone driven male approach to mating in the animal kingdom which humans belong to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:50 AM
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That’s virtue signaling. Following your biological imperative is not immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:46 AM
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Completely disagree. First of all the mating game is amoral. Male sexual strategy is amoral, not immoral. Being a blue pilled muppet isn’t virtuous, it’s delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:42 AM
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There are some blue pillers left. Usually either religious people, socially brainwashed people, and believe it or not: some chads who are just so good looking that women just fall in their lap and so to them the blue pill seems real You don’t get red pilled until you see what happens to yourself and other men over the course of time in relation to women. Reality is the biggest red pill. Men who struggle with women who aren’t low iq get red pilled early
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:37 AM

Reddit is mostly a far left, gynocentric, hive mind of virtue signalers and sheep. Most subs will ban you for having a masculine or dissenting viewpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:30 AM
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Exactly, women will fuck and have relationships with attractive manipulators then complain to their girlfriends and beta males when they find out he lied or cheated. Which is basically what I wrote in my OP and you finally admit that it’s not just sex, attractive manipulative men get relationships too. much more often than honest unattractive nice guy muppets
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:28 AM
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That’s true. Men are the gatekeepers to a relationship but only after being initially selected by a desirable woman. But because women are initially far more selective, and men will fuck almost anything if they are horny enough, the vast majority of males have little to no selective power at all. The 20% of men who do have selective power, are the ones who can decide whether to commit after they were already picked by women The 80% of men who never get picked by women don’t gatekeep commitment e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:24 AM
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30% of men under 30 are now virgin incels. Another 50% of men maybe get a tiny bit of female attention from women at or below their attractiveness level. Basically 80% of men are essentially invisible to women. Only the top 20% actually exist. And within that top 20%, you really need to be another power level or two better so top 1-4% of men to actually do well with modern women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:06 AM
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Female are the primary initial sexual selectors of the animal family when it comes to humans. They are the ones Doing the qualifying and disqualifying. That’s why men need to have game and women don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:04 AM
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Women are often in relationships with scumbags who eventually cheat on them But they never gave the hundreds of guys who wouldn’t cheat, or are incapable of cheating, a chance The saying nice guys finish last exists for a reason. Female nature tends to pick bad boys when women are at peak value themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:02 AM
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I agree. Men are made through consistency, discipline, and hard work. Not through complaining and giving up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:00 AM

Imbalance is usually periodic. Like an ice age and a warming period. Imbalance puts heavy sexual selective pressure on one sex Right now, the female imperative is in control. Most low iq citizens don’t realize it but the vast majority of male dna bloodlines will be purged from humanity over the next 100 years
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:56 PM

Men are also hardwired to compete or fight with other males for females just like other animals in the animal kingdom. But humans don’t only fight physically they also fight tactically. Mentally, verbally, etc Game is defined as your ability to succeed with women romantically. Usually involving some level of manipulation. Men wield their looks/money/status multiplied by their behavior/game and compete with other men for the super selective human females.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:54 PM

Correct the number of elites will be few, but they will be super human. The masses will be muppets. You already see this in society. The masses are ugly and obese and dumb but the best looking, smartest, and most athletic people are also better than ever but few in number
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:46 PM

Lack of sexual partners. Lack of companionship. Loneliness. No children. No grandchildren. Incel for life That’s something a surprisingly large amount of men are already facing with that percentage rising steadily
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:45 PM

Either that or social unrest and war. Once most men are killed off, and there are far more women than men: the gender imbalance would once again shift towards the male imperative and females would be the ones facing more sexual selective pressure Nature seems to oscillate like this. For example ice ages, and warming periods. Men evolved to be much taller than women with much larger penises than other primates due to female selectivity. But females also evolved permanent breasts, bubble butts and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:44 PM

6 4 gigachads who mate with gigastacies are far more likely to have some of their children or grandchildren become gigachads and gigastacies Likewise, 5 5 muppets with no standards mating with low iq obese female land whale hamplanets are much more likely to have low iq and unattractive children and grandchildren However genetics can be weird and there are definitely outliers where ugly people have beautiful children and beautiful people have ugly children. But that’s not the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:37 PM

I completely agree with what you wrote. I feel like they don’t let you agree without accusing you of circle jerking. We live in a gynocentric society where the male imperative is shamed. What I think this really does results wise is it creates more inequality (super selective women choose a tiny percentage of males, and low value women mate in abundance) fewer children overall, etc Many male blood lines will die out within the next hundred years because very few men will pass on their dna. Those…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:29 PM
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I said women tend to reward manipulative men and punish honest men. That’s an observation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:34 PM
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My post describes observable behavior. Not my behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:28 PM
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I don’t advocate for lying or manipulation. I describe observations which can be made by interacting with women as a man: which suggest that women reward manipulation and punish too much honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:45 PM
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Sounds like you misunderstand my post
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:38 PM
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I understand what you wrote and agree with it Just because my opinion differs from you in most things doesn’t mean I can’t agree on some
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:23 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:18 PM
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I think hypergamy as a word is in reference to social status and wealth. I don’t know if it applies to beauty. But women not only select men on hypergamy, they also want men who are taller, more handsome, more charming than other men Women are far more sexually selective than males, initially And men can’t easily change their height and it’s not easy to become successful and fit and handsome either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:45 PM
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Men are hypergamous in terms of genetics/looks/fertility but not in terms of wealth/social status/capability the way women are in regards to males
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:41 PM
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Both sexes do think logically, but then act on instinct
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:24 PM
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You say I’m wrong and then you write the exact same thing I do. Charmers are manipulators, what’s what makes them charming. So basically you agree And yes negatives outweighs positives. And there isn’t any human who doesn’t have multiple flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:18 PM
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Men shouldn’t manipulate for selfish reasons the same way women shouldn’t. It should be mutually beneficial Lies should be minimal, subtle, or white lies. Tactical honesty is best, because brutal honesty obviously doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:34 PM
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The difference with your examples is that the men are manipulating for mutual benefit , because the intent is to generate genuine attraction within the woman whereas the female examples you have are manipulating men for selfish reasons for only the woman’s benefit A better example of women manipulating men for mutual benefit would be using makeup, getting their hair done, fashion, beauty procedures, or a sugar baby prostitute
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:29 PM
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I agree The best manipulators lie as little as possible. They are able to deceive and generate attraction through a wide assortment of manipulative techniques. A lot of these super charming men are naturals. Although it can be learned to some degree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:54 PM
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Men don’t care if a 30 year old woman hasn’t had a relationship and lives with her mom. Women do care however The sexes are different
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:52 PM
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So you’re input is basically: I am better than most men and don’t have this problem. I can say and do anything and be successful with women. What are you doing on here besides bragging, gloating, and putting the vast majority of men who have any flaw at all down? How does your input help a 30 year old man who is between jobs and lives with his mom get a date? How does your input help yourself if 30 years from now you find yourself single, fat, and unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:49 PM
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Because when you’re dealing with attractive women, even the ones that vibe with you will lose interest easily if you make a mistake. There isn’t much room for error It’s much easier dating down. Dating across and up takes a lot of skill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:44 PM
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I don’t believe the things you said. I know not all women are attractive. That’s why I clearly stated men can date down and not have to have as much “game”. But when they date across or up, women as attractive or more attractive than themselves, it’s like walking on eggshells. One wrong move and it’s over. And being too honest about a disqualifier is a wrong move. You have to be a master manipulator to deal with attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:16 PM
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Yes we are on the same page
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:11 PM
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Dress up as a man and approach women in real life and see how that goes then
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:09 PM
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This post isn’t about me, it’s about behavior in general
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:07 PM
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Excuse me? This post isn’t about me, it’s a behavioral observation. But what you wrote says quite a bit about you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:05 PM
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The manipulative charming man is going to tailor his Lies to be subtle, white lies, or embellishments and omissions. Or things not easily caught. Not much different than what makeup is for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:02 PM
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Only When they start feeling older, which nowadays might not be until they approach 40 or 50
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:53 PM
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The honest guy is finished from the start. The liar has a greater than 0% chance but I’m not going to argue with you with that percent is because it’s irrelevant. Anything is better than 0
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:51 PM
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Make a fake dating profile using an average man with at least one disqualifier. Then be honest about the disqualifier and see where you get with women. Hint: nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:49 PM
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Chads with game
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:42 PM
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I’d agree with you but There is a divide between idealism and reality that you won’t know unless you tried dating as a man. Go make a fake dating profile using an average man who has at least one disqualifier such as height, race, hair, career, past relationship, etc. then be honest about it and see where you get: nowhere Men learn the hard way that being 100 percent honest all of the time leaves you nowhere with women. And most men have many disqualifiers which they have to hide. Women obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:38 PM
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Never said that. I’m saying honest men often end up with nothing at all unless they date down. Most men who date want to have sex, an intimate friend, a companion, or a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:31 PM
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Women often ask about your last relationship, where you live, your career Let’s say an otherwise attractive man has a dealbreaker in some area. Maybe he’s unemployed, maybe he lives with his mom, or maybe he’s never had a relationship. If he’s honest about any of those things 9/10 women will immediately lose interest and disqualify him. He will either be ghosted or leave the date with a hug and never hear from them But if he instead lies about the disqualifier, he now has a fighting chance to wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:30 PM
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I agree. But the vast majority of times, men can’t be honest about obvious disqualifiers, because they would get immediately disqualified When it comes to dating women aren’t very sympathetic. They are cutthroat and lose attraction extremely fast, especially initially One wrong move and it’s over
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:26 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:24 PM
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Why are you so hostile when you basically agree with my post. I never said manipulation was bad. And a common lie would be something like a guy who’s out of work saying that he has x career. If he’s honest the woman immediately disqualifies him. If he lies, he gets his foot in the door and has a chance to win her over
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:18 PM
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Male behavior rewards women who manipulate their looks and behavior as well. Makeup, fashion, feminine behavior, etc. But women are the more selective sex. Therefore men need to have game, women don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:15 PM
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Men commonly lie about their height, their age, their career, and even embellish stories. Often times if these men were honest the woman would have immediately disqualified them. But because they lie they get their foot in the door, and then continue to manipulate until the woman falls for them. The honest man is rewarded by being immediately disqualified The liar is rewarded with a chance to generate attraction If the liar fails at generating attraction the woman is mad that the guy is a liar a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:13 PM
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There are different types of women just like there are different types of men. But there is also a lot of common ground. Just like nice tits/ass will get a lot of men interested, charming men with game (attractive manipulation) get most women going
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:04 PM
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You do have to manipulate a woman’s emotions to generate attraction, intentionally or unintentionally. You don’t necessarily have to lie to generate that attraction but the vast majority of men who do, lie at least a little bit. I agree that nice guys are liars in that they are feigning their true intentions. And to the last part of your statement: nowhere did I complain about women at all or whine. I described female behavior for what it is. Try re reading
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:02 PM
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Women fuck guys who generate attraction for them. And that’s usually a function of looks/money/status multiplied by behavior. That’s why “behavior” or as some people call it game is extremely important so long as you are good enough in looks/money/status
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:37 PM
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Almost 43
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:32 AM
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Not at all. I find some women to be super hot as late as early 50s, although that’s rare. But I’m dating for long term and want a family. So biologically it’s wisest for me to date women under 35 or 40
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:08 AM
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Honestly height alone is like a cheat code with women. As long as you don’t have some type of obvious disqualifiers like being ugly or fat or too skinny or gangly or socially awkward. However I was this tall since about 20 or so I’m guessing, so something besides height made me more attractive. I doubt it was going bald at 24. And I’ve been fit my entire life. I think what it was was experience. As you age as a man you start behaving differently, because you learn from your mistakes. Although I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:55 AM
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I’m 42, 6 4, bald, natural fit 210lbs with abs, and make well over six figures I was basically an incel in my teens, lost my virginity at 25, had my first girlfriend at 31, and then started getting flooded with female attention since 35 That’s my personal experience, obviously not everyone is the same. I’ve worked really hard at my business and fitness. And even though I am doing the best I ever have with women: attractive women are still a pain to deal with. One mistake and they ghost you, earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:48 AM
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I am 6’ 4” and make multiple over 100k. I’ll tell you exactly what type of women I date: women I’m attracted to. They could be homeless for all I care Men are wired way different than women. Men care very little about a woman’s career or income unless they have been pressured by society or family into caring. Men care about how attractive and feminine a woman is. Usually signals of youth and fertility. The usual face, tits, ass, overall physique, vibes, chemistry, personality. Her status means n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:28 AM
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Do you want a medal? You think there is one way to live life and other ways are gross? I could call u gross too, it’s a subjective description that means nothing. People literally used to call other races gross. Or foods they don’t like gross. But what’s gross to you might be somebodies treasure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:19 AM
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I swooned over milfs and still do. I think motherhood and pregnancy is super sexy. And the extra curves women have after kids is often in the right places. I’m not a boomer. I’m a millenial
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:16 AM
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Exactly. As a man you literally need to be extremely good looking to do well with women most of the time although charm, behavior, and money status can also work. Have them all if u can
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:07 AM
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Only an idiot would think that merely turning 30 or 40 as a man will get you hot girls. The older men who do so is because they are ATTRACTIVE. Some had glow ups where they became more attractive as they got older because they gained looks/money/status You can actually get better looking with age as a man to a point but you have to have good genetics and be a workout fiend
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:02 AM
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You’re probably much grosser than me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:57 AM
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Hundreds. I’ve heard hundreds of women swooning over celebrities who I thought were old as fuck at the time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:57 AM
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Women are still very fertile at 35
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:55 AM
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Sounds like you have life all figured out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:53 AM
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I’m almost 43 so I am way older. That was 21 years ago Yes I was watching that movie with one woman. Many women have told me how they even found senior citizens like Patrick Stewart to be hot and fuckable. Women in their 20s I agree most women don’t want a senior citizen man. That’s common sense. We are talking about outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:51 AM
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I agree with most of your post but your wrong on hairloss. When I had great hair, up to about age 24, I got very few attractive women. As I lost my hair and eventually shaved bald by 27 I started getting younger and more attractive women. I’m not saying being bald got me hotter girls: in general most women likely prefer a nice head of hair. But the rest of me was significantly more attractive than my younger self. Also I am 42 and have more dating options with attractive women than ever in my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:48 AM
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As a 42 almost 43m I’d still commit to long term and creating a family with up to about a 35f. That’s not a hard number as an outlier female may push 40 and win me over, just a general number. Women my age aren’t in the same life stage as me. I want a large family. I was a late bloomer. They have either already had kids, or decided not to have them. Therefore the only thing I can have with women over 40 is a short term sexual relationship. For long term, which is what I am looking for, I date ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:42 AM
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I’m 42 and I date 18-35 for long term. I rarely date women under 25 though for multiple reasons, and I tend to find women 25-35 at peak attractiveness. What I can say is that modern women care about looks a lot. If you aren’t good looking or tall or exceedingly charming than it’s not going to be easy to date younger women. You have to be more attractive than her younger suitors in many ways and most older guys will fail
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:35 AM
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Well said. I can tell you as a 43m that I was a late bloomer in life. I actually used to prefer older women when I was young myself. But now that I’m older and want a family, I can’t seriously date women over 35 or 40. I’m attracted to women between 25-35 more than women younger than that, but I’m open to long term dating in the 18-25 age range more so than 35+ because I want a large family. And I won’t be shamed out of it by angry feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:30 AM
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That’s not true. Sean Connery was a sex symbol in his sixties. I remember being in my early 20s dating an early 20s woman and we were watching a Sean Connery movie. And she thought he was hot as fuck. And I said he’s like 65. And she said, I don’t care if he’s 80, he’s fucking hot That was my first eye opener to how some women really like a tiny percentage of super high ranking older guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:25 AM
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Young men often have more Ed than older men these days. I struggled with occasional Ed in my teens and twenties because I would get performance anxiety with women and be unable to relax. I also was born with a small cyst on my prostate that would sometimes act up and negatively effect me. As I grew older I met some women who didn’t chastise me and pressure me to perform. They allowed me to relax and enjoy sex. Something magically changed in my brain because of these experiences from feminine, ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:22 AM
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I’m almost 43m. For me this holds true. From puberty until about age 25 I preferred older women. Usually between 25-35. I didn’t like women under 25 much. As I became older, over 30, more experienced and more established and masculine, I started appreciating youth more. I started dating younger women often around age 22. My longest and best relationship was when I was 36 with a 22f. Once I got over 40, now I find women of many ages attractive. However because I am still looking for the right wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:13 AM
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Everyone is influenced or brainwashed by something. Whether it be religion, or societal norms, or their parents, or whatever. Part of becoming enlightened is breaking out of that brainwashing and finding your own personal truths. But that can come with mistakes and regret, so you have to tread carefully and learn from other peoples mistakes. Also some brainwashing can be good and protect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:07 PM
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You sound like you’ve been brainwashed by man hating feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:35 AM
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Good for you? You don’t speak for all women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:34 AM
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Most men get occasional episodes of ED from performance anxiety with a new woman under pressure, or from cumming too many times in to short of a period, or excessive porn use.Even men who are otherwise studs have this happen, we are human and not machines. All of this is temporary Very few men have severe Ed who are under 60 and aren’t obese or diabetic. And just like there is glasses for people with bad eyesight, there are pills and injections and even implants these days for even severe cases.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:28 AM
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Certain women. The women I have met mostly preferred penetration
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:56 AM
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Exactly and never believe what people (especially women) say. Instead watch what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:55 AM
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Lesbian fisting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:53 AM
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That’s false though, the second half of your paragraph is false. First half is true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:36 AM
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Online I always read how women only orgasm from clitoral stimulation. In real life, every single woman I’ve met preferred penetration. Something tells me there are a lot of strange, male hating, feminist women online in certain spaces who skew reality to seem like men are useless. You’ll always notice it’s blue pilled, feminist, or odd women talking about how penetration does nothing for them. It’s either a manifestation of their male hatred or warped sense of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:28 AM
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It’s common sense. You get to pick a 6’ 4”, handsome, charming, well hung stud but he’s going to cheat or you get to pick 5’ 4”, ugly, awkward, virgin who is going to be loyal. Which do you take? Neither isn’t an option because this question reflects the world we live in, which is rarely ideal. You usually have to make compromises It’s common sense by observing women which type of man they usually pick. Then Complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:25 AM
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No, those ideas wouldn’t help. I don’t know what would but maybe the ancient Greeks had it right, where marriage was simply a contract with which to raise children together. Nobody owes anybody anything which isn’t in the contract
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:28 AM
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U as well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:15 AM
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I don’t care about changing your opinion. This is a form of entertainment where red pilled muppets argue with blue pilled muppets and few change their opinions. Purple pill debate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:14 AM
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Women will pick a high value male cheater over a low value male non cheater 99% of the time. That doesn’t mean cheating is good. It means the real world doesn’t operate in idealism
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:05 AM
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Doesn’t matter how you feel or how others are disgusted. That’s sheep like thinking, which most women have. I’ll do what’s best for me, why do I care if others don’t approve? You obviously care about other peoples opinion and social pressure. Most women do. I don’t. I’d date the best woman for me whether she’s 18, 25, 35, whatever. Men are more likely than women to take risks and face social ridicule, because men are better able to defend themselves and have more testosterone. So it’s pretty nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:01 AM
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Your opinion matters to you. Reddit is an entertainment site to chat with muppets around the world about various topics. That doesn’t make anyone’s opinion valid. Nobodies opinion ultimately matters other than the person who has power. And most people have power over their own life
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:57 AM
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The world is not an idealistic place. Most relationships end. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t right for a time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:53 AM
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I’m disgusted by feminists. The difference between us is that you think your opinion matters, whereas I know all opinions including my own are irrelevant and people can choose to live however they want
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:51 AM
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But large age gaps aren’t average people. It’s outlier people. It’s most often high value men that utilize some advantage they have that allows them to outcompete younger men for the most attractive women, which are usually young (20-35 or so). They use their power to acquire a more attractive and fertile mate than a woman their own age, and people are bitter about it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:39 AM
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Who’s to say she chose poorly, you? She chose for herself, not to please you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:32 AM
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Who are you to tell people what stage of life they’re in. Obviously an 80 year old is in a different stage than a 20 year old. But 20-50 or so, which is adulthood, varies A LOT I’ve met 20 year olds who are more mature than 50 year olds. Nobody is actually old yet in this age range and nobody is a child. This is adulthood and people can date whomever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:31 AM
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If none do, then you have nothing to worry about. But when one picks the older guy you lose your shit. Losing your mind over other peoples dating habits is a symptom of mentall illness and social programming
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:28 AM
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No, because men don’t see young women the way women see young men. I’m 42. When I see a 22 year old jogging on the street with heavy tits bouncing and a fit firm ass pushing her along I don’t think to myself how immature she is. My evolutionary INSTINCT is how do I meet this woman and see if she’s a candidate to procreate with. Because that’s how the human species survived! Nut job blue pilled feminist socially programmed women in here are literally mad about the natural biological instincts whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:25 AM
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What does that matter? This is about an older guy that WAS selected by a young woman. She selected him over young men, why does it bother u so much
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:23 AM
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Because he’s better than competing males? Maybe he’s more charismatic. Maybe he gives her the tingles. Maybe he’s charming. Maybe he’s bald and she has a thing for that. Maybe he’s tall. Maybe he’s well hung. Maybe he’s rich. Maybe he has status. For a man to get a woman in the first place he has to out compete other men. Attractive Women are brutal sexual selectors and deselect men, ghost them, for the most mundane reasons. That means if she chose him, there is something about him she likes. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:21 AM
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Women innately choose the best man for them. Whether he is their same age, older or younger. So this isn’t an issue, because women are the primary initial sexual selectors. If they choose an older man it’s because they instinctually are more attracted to him than his younger competitors. Women are brutal sexual selectors. They aren’t choosing an older guy out of pity. They only choose him if he’s better than the competition men of any age
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:17 AM
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Yes, I am that guy. Didn’t lose my virginity until 25. Didn’t have my first girlfriend until 31. Didn’t have a career/business/purpose until 34. Starting getting significantly more female attention after 35. I’m now almost 43 and women, especially young women, are more abundant than ever. And I don’t advertise my success, I dress normal and am not into fancy things. I like older women too but the problem is most of them already have or don’t want children. I have so much more in common with youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:05 AM
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If that were true than pretty woman wouldn’t have been a wildly successful and iconic movie
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:02 AM
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Wait, what if the sugar daddy is attractive? What if the sugar daddy is even more attractive than the sugar baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 01:46 AM
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What are saggy balls? Mens dick and balls hang low when it’s hot or the guy is relaxed and retract when it’s cold or when under stress like exercise
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:32 PM

Most people on Reddit and maybe even society are woke muppets so you’re gonna get super far left feminist gynocentric blue pilled woke advice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:02 AM
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Men can’t grow several inches in height either. Men are far less picky than women. Men typically only deselect on things like age, lack of beauty, and obesity. Women will deselect the perfect man because he holds his fork wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:51 AM

People get upset about things which emotionally affect them. Age gaps emotionally affect many women of all ages because it is a harsh reminder that their sexual power is temporary. Muppets, blue pillers, and soy based men are also deeply offended because they think like women. Also societally brainwashed folks like woke social justice warriors and feminists. You see something similar with a lot of white men being very upset when black men are dating attractive white women. In reality, all of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:56 AM
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On average sure. But it’s not a flaw on men whose looks it improves
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:40 PM
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Where in the US did you try to match? Do you believe the US dating market is even worse than Western Europe for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:56 PM
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That’s like saying chads girlfriend wouldn’t be with Chad if he was ugly. No fucking shit. All relationships are conditional
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:54 PM
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I’ve never heard him say that. Sounds like a fake feminist translation of what he’d really say
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:53 PM
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It’s not the same though. Overweight due to excess fat isn’t healthy and that’s why it’s instinctively unattractive. But overweight due to excess muscle, such as football players, is often seen as attractive. Similarly bald with a ring around your head on a relatively unattractive man looks bad. But a shaved head on a fit good looking guy like 35yo vin diesel looks better than he would with hair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:47 PM
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The man she wants is probably going to choose a woman 10-15 years younger than her because most men don’t give a shit about women’s masculine career accomplishments and income.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:21 PM
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You’re taking it to some extreme level like I said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:09 PM
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Control and dominate? Are you ok? Most parents want their kids to clean their room if they ask them too. That’s obedience. You’re taking it to some extreme far out level
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:02 PM
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Parents who want obedience from children are psychopaths?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:59 PM
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Nooe
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:04 PM
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Balding is normal on men, not on women. Many bald men are better looking than men with hair. Some women even liked vin diesel over Paul walker and Paul walker is a classic chad. That being said I would actually still date a bald woman of the wrong race. She’d have to have huge tits, slim waist, round ass, and a beautiful face though. I’ve actually seen some black women who met this description who’d I’d definitely go out with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:03 PM
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Many introverted men can hold a conversation and be funny. They just don’t go out of their way to constantly do social activities and can be happy by themselves or with family and friends
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:46 AM
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Nope. Most studies are simply something to consider as long as you know there are all kinds of missing variables and biases involved. Really good studies can be very informative and provide a lot of good ideas. But studies are rarely providing information that is something set in stone Self reported studies are some of the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:27 AM
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Exactly true. Single Women over 30/40 is completely different than single men over 30/40 Women have infinitely more power than the vast majority of men in the sexual marketplace. If they are still single at 40 it’s a huge red flag Very few men on the other hand have any power at all. It’s literally normal now for men to be single and incels. A single middle aged man is common and normal now. Same reason why a man who can sleep with many attractive women is respected, but a woman who can sleep wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:41 PM
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You have this all mixed up. Parent are the masters of their children. Therefore men would be masters of women. Men would provide for and take care of those women. In exchange they receive love and obedience
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:30 PM
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Are you white? Do you feel being white is a huge advantage in the bubble you describe?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:00 PM
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Do you feel Brazilian women in your bubble act similar to American women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:54 PM
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Many men will take it. I never will, I wouldn’t even want women I’m with to take female birth control. It messes up your hormones and supposedly also makes women choose different men than they would if they weren’t on the pill
/r/MensRights19/12/23 06:39 PM
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You believe what u read = sheep Many studies are bs and results change with the wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:37 PM
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It’s because that calculator is probably factoring in humans around the world and isnt relevant to what’s around you. There are social circles where being six foot and making six figures is average. It doesn’t matter that it’s top 1% in the world, because your pool is the bubble you live in
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:17 PM
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An ugly one. Men date down and women date up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:14 PM
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That’s because it’s easier to be disqualified than to be qualified. Can’t have any deal breakers for the woman you want
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:14 PM
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Modern Women are ruthlessly selective. A single dealbreaker, even something seemingly negligible and stupid, often overwrites a top .001% man these days. For example a guy who’s 6 4, well endowed, rich, handsome, fit and athletic. But he is the wrong race, or he’s bald, or he isn’t that social, or he doesn’t hold masculine frame, etc. Different deal breakers for different women Depending on the woman, they will disqualify you for the most mundane shit imaginable. It is what it is, female nature
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:12 PM

Pubic hair is natural and feminine. A mustache is not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:30 AM

I absolutely like pubic hair on women and large labia as well. It was also the norm in the US before the 90s. Watch 7ps or 80s porn
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:25 AM

Instinctually they are. Culturally it might be different. Its there for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:03 AM

Lazy women will lose their looks either way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:55 AM

I do like slim thick women. That means a fit body. Tight athletic, fit body but feminine curves natural tits and ass. That’s so different than overweight women who call themselves curvy but are completely out of shape. It’s like they hijacked the word and misuse it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:22 AM

We live in a world where humans are slothful and gluttonous and devoid of personal responsibility. Women often use pregnancy as an excuse to let them selves go, eat way too much, and quit exercising. Those are the things that make people less attractive, not the pregnancy itself. The hormones from the pregnancy make the women have even better estrogen and curves. All she has to do is stay fit and healthy and she reaps the benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:12 AM

I disagree I think women look and feel even better post pregnancy if it went well and if they have good lifestyles
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:00 AM

Yes ofcourse. Personally I find women 25-35 at peak attractiveness. Some decline earlier than others and some peak earlier than others
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:51 PM

Am I wrong? Anyone that doesn’t have kids is a biological dead end. Thats just facts I already said I don’t care if you or others have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:47 PM

Your view sounds rooted in selfishness. It’s not about being remembered. You think 10,000 years from now anyone will remember 99.9999% of people from today? No, almost all will be forgotten. Humans could even become extinct So what’s the point? Life’s only meaning is that which you give it. And much of meaning comes from our base instincts. The three most basic instincts for most life on the planet is to survive, thrive, and reproduce. For some people, having children, grand children, great grab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:25 PM

Good for you. Enjoy being a biological dead end and the last of your bloodline. Not saying it’s a bad thing. Not everyone is meant to reproduce. Self selecting yourself out of the human genome might be good for future humanity. I don’t know the answer to that. Evolution works in complex ways
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:17 PM

Most studies if you haven’t figured out are nonsense. They are based on limited data, have missing variables, and are constantly conflicting with each other The bottom line is that women are being conditioned to be selfish and avoid pregnancy and that is contributing to low birth rates and an epidemic of miserable childless older women. I strongly believe that having children is usually a healthy part of a woman’s life. And me personally, I find milfs very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:58 PM
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Because women aren’t men. From a shallow perspective women are sex objects and men are success objects. What she does for you is give you sex, companionship, and a family. But male sexuality is abundant and therefore worth much less. So you have to bring something else to the table to be useful to women
/r/MensRights17/12/23 09:41 PM

I slept with her and she was my also my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:27 PM

Read the studies instead of the headlines. The very first one says the exact same thing which my OP does. That having children temporarily improves looks due to boosted estrogen. Titles are often click bait and u have to read the data
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:22 PM

I know women who have had kids. And like I said I know one with huge boobs and has three kids. Her boobs do not sag more than normal at all. But she kept pumping her boobs after she stopped breast feeding for like a year. It worked for her
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:18 PM

First off I think a little bit of sag looks good. Now if you’re talking extreme sag and deflated, that can occur from completely ceasing breast feeding all of a sudden. I know women who continue to “milk” themselves so that their breasts stay full and only gradually stop producing milk. They never got saggy boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:17 PM

The changes you describe often happen between 45-50 around menopause. Earlier age related negative changes are not from pregnancy itself. It could be from aging, overdoing or under doing something, alcohol, poor diet, health problem, lack of exercise, stress, complacency. It is not having kids itself which does it. Pregnancy improves aging as is mentioned in the very article you linked, up to 4 kids
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:15 PM

That’s what it means to you. To me a milf means a mom I’d like to fuck. I picture that as a woman with children usually between 25-35 with big Tits round ass and fit toned bidy. Yes older and different than the typical 20-30 demographic of hot women with no kids and subtle curves
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:05 PM

The women in milf porn are usually between 25-45 with most being right around 25-30. Once you get over 35-45 you start wandering into “mature” category The typical milf is 30 with big tits and a round ass and a normal or slender waist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:52 PM

Your face absolutely changes with lifestyle choices and bodyfat levels. The study you linked said women who had 3-4 children aged better than those that had 0-1. Did you even read what you linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:49 PM

35+ is an older milf. Milf usually starts at around 25 but really at any age that a woman has big curves and a slim waist and looks like she had a dose of those pregnancy hormones that enlarge sexual curves
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:33 PM

I agree completely however some women hold onto that mid twenties look all the way to 40. Those women are rare though and have elite genetics and extreme lifestyle discipline. They work out a lot, eat well, and just have an amazing hormonal profile (something which having children improves)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:30 PM

Beauty is both subjective and objective
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:29 PM

I’m gonna be 43 soon and my range is 18-35. I’m less attracted to women 18-25 than hot women in the 25-35 age range but I have to factor in that I want a large family
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:28 PM

How do you know if that’s due to aging or getting comfortable and lazy in a relationship and not due to pregnancy? Pregnancy itself is not what causes a decline in looks. It’s aging, not working out, eating poorly, and alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:26 PM

I’m repulsed by Bbw. Milf porn is usually women close to 30, with or without children, who have big curves and a slim waist. Usually big boobs or a big butt or both. That’s what the milf category is. The youngest are usually close to 25 and the oldest might be early 40s but most are late 20s to early 30s. And that’s a more popular category than early to mid 20s: however I’d wager it’s more due to their tits and ass then their age
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:16 PM

I agree although I find that the hottest women are between 25-35 They are young enough to be in their prime but old enough to have had to work for their looks and not be coasting on youth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:10 PM

All of those features are mostly autistic musings of black pilled muppets. I’ve seen hot women that have the exact opposite of all of those features. That’s not to say you’re not attractive, but those people take analysis to a weird level and discover subtle truths but also loads of subjective nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:09 PM

Overweight unattractive people try to shame attractive and healthy people and cast themselves as victims. It’s nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:37 PM

Privelaged due to good life choices , discipline, and consistency of effort. Nice job trying to shame taking care of your health and appearance though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:19 PM

For women Weight gain in tits, thighs, and ass with a fit firm body and toned waist is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:17 PM

Yes, but that’s a separate topic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:56 PM

Did she workout 3-6 days a week? Did she have a good diet? Did she get adequate sunlight? Did she jog, swim, do cardio? Did she avoid alcohol and cigarettes? Why do some other women have 5 kids and look better than ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:56 PM

I think it’s because big ass or big tits on a fit slim waist is sexually appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:32 PM

No, because feminist debates go on forever. The topic was best conveyed in my first paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:28 PM

That’s the tail end of fertility for most women. So yes rare at that age to be prime sexually attractive, but possible
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:22 PM

I edited my post to just be the first paragraph because the whole feminist convo goes on forever
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:19 PM

I don’t think women’s bodies are gross. And MILF is the top porn category for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:13 PM

I hear your points, but I find feminism to be extremely destructive to society. That being said, I meant what I said in the first paragraph. MILF is the top porn category for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:08 PM

I am the OP. And I’m talking about prime aged women who’ve had kids. Usually slimthick with big boobs and slim waist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:03 PM

Yet milf is the top porn category Guess there are many more people who don’t find milfs gross
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:55 PM

Yet milf is the top porn category
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:54 PM

I’d say I mostly agree with you. However a woman’s face remains attractive if she remains healthy and fit regardless of kids or not. Many women in their late twenties these days have faces as pleasant as women in their early to mid twenties. For the most part I agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:54 PM

Because most people age or let themselves go I’m referring to someone of prime age who is on top of maintaining their looks. Someone like that, pregnancy hormones only make their tits, thighs, asses, nipples bigger meanwhile their waist slim
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:47 PM

A milf could be 18-23 too. I’d take my future wife, fit after having my children, then fit before having my children. Because I’ve seen how pregnancy hormones make women hotter if they stay in shape
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:45 PM

She was hot, slim with saggy boobs. I find fit moms with nice curves and slim/fit waists to be the most attractive women. However my preference is women without kids who will become a milf to my own children and family
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:43 PM

The difference is that pregnancy made the women hotter, but the ugly women you describe aren’t ugly because of pregnancy, they are ugly because they let themselves get fat and ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:42 PM

Pregnancy doesn’t cause obesity. Sloth and gluttony does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:37 PM

That’s a result of lifestyle choice. Not of having kids. Evidence: I’ve seen women with 5+ children who are unbelievably hot. Slim waist, big ass, big tits. All natural Guess what she works out 6 days a week and eats well and does a lot of stuff outdoors
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:36 PM

What does fat unattractive women have to do with a post about fit, attractive milfs with big boobs or nice ass/thighs and slim waists?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:35 PM

Most people are lazy, overweight, and unattractive. I’m obviously talking about fit, sexually attractive people. The power to be attractive or unattractive has a lot to do with daily habits and consistency of effort. Working out, eating properly, getting enough outdoor sunlight, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:34 PM

Not necessarily. My friend was dating a 19 year old with saggy boobs who had no kid. I’ve dated a woman with three kids who had perky boobs. There are a lot of factors involved. I actually like slightly saggy larger boobs. Super perky fake boobs look bad to me the same way fake noses look bad to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:32 PM

Yup, I’ve felt that way too. An instinctual attraction like you described
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:29 PM

Most men I know like large labia. The men who dislike large labia are usually super young in highschool or college and think it’s a way to degrade women and dumb women believe that it’s true. In reality, adult males with normal to high testosterone are instinctually turned on by female secondary sexual characteristics such as pubic hair, protruding labia, larger nipples than men, breasts, wide hips, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:27 PM

This post isn’t referring to aging older women with declining fertility. This is also not referring to unattractive moms who are overweight. This is referring to attractive fit women in their sexual prime ages 20-45 who are milfs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:24 PM

True however I’ve witnessed many women become hotter after having children. Their tits and asses got bigger and their waist stayed slim. Their nipples also became very noticeable bigger and more erect
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:21 PM

What you said makes no sense. A milf can be 19 or 35. A milf can and should be fit, not overweight. The difference is the milf is much more likely to have an hourglass figure and bigger/better secondary sexual characteristics like larger boobs and nipples. Female fertility in healthy women doesn’t really start declining a notable amount until 35 but even 35-40 is very fertile. It’s 40+ that usually female fertility rapidly declines
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:19 PM

Pregnancy doesn’t cause those things, aside from potentially stretch marks. Saggy boobs can be genetic or caused by a million other things. Also a lot of men like natural looking boobs far more than super perky, fake boobs. Stretched pussy should only be temporary unless the woman had tears. Even tears are usually temporary and heal. C section is dangerous because it’s not natural and can cut nerves. Women who choose to have c sections when they don’t need it are the ones risking a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:16 PM

However you can look up data for porn categories and MILF is top 5 every year
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:06 PM
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I agree. Landing and keeping attractive women is incredibly hard even if you make yourself attractive as possible, wealthy, etc. I never said it was easy
/r/MensRights17/12/23 04:22 PM
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Downvoted because most people want to take the easy path in life. It’s much easier to settle for a mediocre woman and rationalize that she has a great personality because you didn’t want to put in the effort or have the ability to get a woman who was subjective an 8+ in looks for your own personal taste, and also has an 8+ in personality and character. But women like that are exceptionally rare, hard to keep even if you do get them, and in extremely high demand and so you have to compete with st…
/r/MensRights17/12/23 04:17 PM
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You have to use your money for it to actually do something for you… Women don’t magically know your income
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:39 AM

We already established that women leave the marriage 90% of the time, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 01:16 AM

Sure, you could paint it any way you’d like. Either way, the court systems tend to penalize men for divorce and reward women. So it’s a raw deal for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 01:09 AM
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Simple. Don’t marry. Start a family abroad with an attractive woman. Ofcourse that comes with a whole new set of problems but at least you don’t lose all your assets in family court
/r/MensRights17/12/23 12:22 AM
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I value both. I can search for someone who meets all of my criteria. The risk is that it’s difficult to find and you could end up with nothing. But the reward is you get what you want
/r/MensRights16/12/23 11:33 PM
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Certain countries can’t legally harass you
/r/MensRights16/12/23 11:31 PM

Many Men are turned on by feminine submission the same way many women are turned on by male dominance. The problem is that western women have been conditioned to be dominant, which is sometimes repulsive to men. The last thing men want after a hard, challenging days work is to come home to a loud, dominant, combative woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:28 PM
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How about marrying and having a family with a foreign woman who wouldn’t have legal access to your assets?
/r/MensRights16/12/23 10:04 PM
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Why would I go after less attractive women? So my children inherent the dna of less attractive women? No thank you. I’ll make my own life hard and go for the highest quality woman I can find, so that my children have a head start with better genetics
/r/MensRights16/12/23 10:03 PM
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I’d rather go for the most attractive female I can get, so that my children inherent those genetics. That being said, other factors matter just as much as looks. So finding that level of woman is incredibly difficult. But nothing worthwhile is easy
/r/MensRights16/12/23 10:02 PM

I know older, overweight women who want a 6 4, fit, multimillionaire with a big dick Women might eventually settle for their equals, and men for below their equals. But people often aim above their own level As for putting down someone who wants a biological family: that’s something a brainwashed far left or feminist would say. It’s absolutely un-natural Biological organisms are usually programmed with 3 primary directives. Survive, thrive, and reproduce. You can go ahead and be a biological dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:56 PM

I don’t speak for all men just like I don’t speak for all women when I say women generally want a tall, handsome, charming, fit, successful man. Men don’t all want a young, beautiful, submissive, fit, fertile woman. But many men do, including older ones who still want a family. And no she doesn’t have to be 18. Women are often fertile until their early 40s. And if men don’t want kids and just want a companion, there are plenty of men who’d love to date women over 45 as well
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:34 PM
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Her age when they met has nothing to do with what we are discussing, which is about leading and chasing. He led, and she chased.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:17 PM

Men want a feminine, submissive, young and attractive woman. That’s simply rarer and rarer in the west where women are often entitled, overweight, dominant or combative instead of submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:14 PM
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No, the truth is you don’t understand what I’m saying. Go watch the movie Priscilla. It’s very red pilled. Elvis leads the entire time but Priscilla is the one pursuing Elvis
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:08 PM

I agree that divorce isn’t a failure except that the divorce laws reward the financially weaker party which is usually the woman. As for women abroad: I don’t know why exactly but some of them are so much more attractive than domestic women personality wise, and looks wise in the right locations. Western women are an abomination when it comes to relationship, marriage and fertility statistics. Data is very hard to dispute Any man that wants to pass on his lineage, create a family, and have grand…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:51 PM

If you were a man what would you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:52 PM

39% for Mormons and Muslims maybe. Marry a non religious college educated western woman and chances are she’s going to file for divorce within 5-10 years Some men have wisened up and aren’t getting married anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:47 PM

Most women are college educated these days. It’s a huge demographic of women. Bottom line is that the statistics show that modern women are not marriage worthy. 80% divorce rate, 90% filed by college educated women. Only a fool would look at those stats and be like: hmm those numbers look pretty good. Let’s get married
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:38 PM

Why would I look at the general population which includes religious people and immigrants who are much more likely to stay married? I’m going to look at western college educated women. Unfortunately those women have an 80% divorce rate and file for divorce 90% of the time. Marrying a college educated western woman is like signing away half your stuff, it’s almost always a mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:35 PM
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That’s not what chasing mean. Men should always lead. Chasing is referring to attention. One party is chasing the attention of the other. Women should be chasing the man for attention. Otherwise the female loses interest. However once the man gives his attention, he leads
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:30 PM

How is that cherry picked? Southern California is a high population area, and college educated women are the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:27 PM

The number is 90% for college educated women who initiate divorce. You can literally google it I know it’s hard to believe that women are ending marriages at that rate. But it’s true. Now maybe you understand why more and more men are refusing to get married
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:26 PM

Look up divorce rate in LA, Orange County California, San Diego California. Then look up percentage of divorces filed by college educated women. The statistics are accurate. 77% divorce rate, 90% filed by women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:17 PM

Why would men marry when there is an 80% risk of divorce and 90% chance the woman will file for it? Best option for men these days is to start families abroad and send them money
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:43 PM

Men and Women who want families should probably get into relationships because it’s probably the best way to do it. Relationships are optional for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:41 PM
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Manipulative people get what they want in life and not all are bad. Some people manipulate for a mutual benefit. Like I said the mere act of wearing makeup is manipulation, yet almost every woman does it. If it was all about being straight forward all dates would be naked, with no makeup, and reveal all your history and flaws. Yet nobody does that, because everyone manipulates to some extent. They hide their flaws, emphasize their strengths, and subtly lie with things such as makeup to appear mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:29 PM
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Women are the manipulative sex not men. They wear makeup, they seduce, they act emotional or needy to get things. Accusing men of being manipulative because he didn’t text you for two days is ridiculous. Two days is nothing And it’s not about playing hot and cold. Chasing a woman = losing her. Always. Men learn and they stop doing it unless they are idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:19 PM
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Sounds like virtue signaling You can be many things at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:08 PM
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There is a reason chasing women makes them lose interest. It’s an evolved response. Chasing her = losing her. Men do best when they initiate, lead, then pull back and allow the woman to chase them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:00 PM
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That doesn’t make sense. The easiest way to lose a woman’s interest is to chase her. That reaction must have evolved for a reason Men can lead initially and then pull away and allow the woman to chase them. That’s what women respond best to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:59 PM
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People are both
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:57 PM
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It’s natural for men to lead, not to chase. Men make the first move, decide where and when interactions happen, and lead those interactions. Women follow the male lead if they are interested. Women chase men they are interested in because men like that. Men shouldn’t chase women because women do not like being chased and lose interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:35 AM
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Women are sex objects though. They aren’t “only” sex objects, but that’s one thing they are. They are also wombs. Those are facts. Women are also humans. You could say many women view men as success objects and attractive men as dna distributors as well. Men are objects too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:31 AM
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Freedom is good but it gives people the opportunity to make bad choices which cannot be reversed. I don’t know if less humans would be a good thing. before that happens you’ll end up with an old population and societal problems I think more quality humans might be a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:17 AM
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Good for you. Will the future you be happy with your decision when it’s irreversible and you’re elderly with no family and no descendants? If so, congrats on living life on your terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:15 AM
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If god wanted your life to be easy he would have made you a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:44 AM
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Far more lonely men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:32 AM
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That claim is false
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:30 AM
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It’s the man’s role to lead, but the woman’s role to follow that lead. Women must chase. Men cannot chase or it’s over
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:29 AM
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The person chasing has to be the woman or it won’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:28 AM
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Women should be chasing men though. It’s natural for men to lead and women to follow a man’s lead: meaning chase
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:28 AM
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Women tend to have far more power in the modern sexual marketplace than the vast majority of men. That means men need to have serious attractive qualities and game whereas many women can merely exist and still find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:15 AM
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Instinctually and historically men initiate and lead, while women submit, pursue and chase that leader if she’s attracted to him and he passes her subconscious tests which prod for male weakness such as testing his boundaries. Modern feminism has tried to turn that upside down but all it’s resulted in overall is hedonistic hookup culture for the attractive, sexlessness for the unattractive, more childless men and women, more single motherhood for those who have children, gender wars, incels, ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:05 AM
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He will wish he was dead temporarily. That’s a gruesome injury I don’t want to think about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:05 AM
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I don’t believe that’s true. I think penises cause more low end, superficial, easy to heal damage more often. But I think vaginas cause more devastating damage less often
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:02 AM
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Yet women often willfully buy thick 7-9 inch dildos and prefer hung men according to data
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:57 AM
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Because you’re wrong. A woman can break a penis if she bends it the wrong way by using violent maneuvers because she doesn’t know what she’s doing. That’s a much worse injury that could require surgery. Whereas a penis is only going to cause superficial damage to a vagina in most cases of negligence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:54 AM
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Because you ignore that women can much more easily hurt a man’s penis than vice versa. And women overwhelmingly prefer large penises, why would they prefer that if it was more dangerous or harmful?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:51 AM
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Women can brutally injure a mans penis if they move incorrectly during sex. It’s called a penis fracture. I’d say a vagina is much more dangerous than a penis due to simple physics. The vagina has the force of the entire woman’s body
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:49 AM
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I think being selective is good for both sexes as long as you can find that person. Also the risks for even 80 year old mens babies are surpassingly low, even though they are far higher than young and middle aged men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:25 PM
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Exactly because a man who doesn’t seek validation has conviction and that’s attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:14 PM
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Your mother taught you well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:11 PM
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Exactly. It’s best to either not announce preferences, or if you do announce them not care about anyone else’s opinions, shame, or judgements
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:05 PM
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Some men don’t care about the opinions and judgements of others though. So they announce, and then ignore the pushback
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:04 PM
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I think anyone should have any preference they want. If the standards are unrealistic than they will struggle to find it. Shaming is not necessary and simply reflects poorly on the shamer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:41 PM
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I agree. Often you see some of the highest standards from people who don’t meet the opposite sex standards at all. The most common example is from high earning older women. Like an overweight 45 year old woman saying she wants a man who is over six feet and makes more than her. But she doesn’t recognize that a single man over six feet that makes more than her is going to have access to women who are younger and not overweight and men don’t care about women’s income
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:34 PM
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I’ve heard normal women say it many times in real life, even more vulgar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:31 PM
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I’ve heard it from women in real life multiple times. Even flat out saying tall with a big dick
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:30 PM
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Well said and good points
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:28 PM
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Well said, I agree. You can’t really care what other people think about you, because you’re choosing a partner for yourself and future family and not to please society
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:25 PM
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I agree about keeping it to yourself. However I’ve heard these same preferences from many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:24 PM
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However in general womens selectivity is praised and mens is shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:23 PM
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Well said and good points
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:21 PM
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Well said and good points
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:21 PM
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In regular society women are praised for having high standards. In certain online communities they might be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:19 PM
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Yes, but in regular society women tend to be praised for having high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:18 PM
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Yes they are shamed by people in the manosphere but only rarely in regular society. Outside of the pills, society is very gynocentric
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:11 PM
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It used to be that there were more lonely men under 40 and more lonely women over 40. But now days the sexual market balance is so extreme in women’s favor that male loneliness is higher at all ages throughout life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:40 PM
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Not true. I find it pretty easy to hook up with women and I find it to be a hedonistic and pointless endeavor. It’s very similar to indulging in anything like eating donuts. We all have varying degrees of sex drives and have a need for closeness with another human. I believe hook up culture is an over indulgence culture. Hooking up with someone you find attractive with the idea that it might lead somewhere is perfectly normal. But going out to get laid every week is just pathetic hedonistic beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:50 AM
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Most women and even more men will go genetically extinct from lack of reproduction and offspring. Some Women will adapt by fucking and reproducing with men who are genetically desirable but perhaps don’t earn much money. Then when the woman gets older she will shame men her age for dating younger women and find some blue pilled white knight beta cuck who believes in the whole feminist anti age gap stepfather agenda to financially support the other man’s offspring
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:08 AM
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Society is becoming more far left, anti male, and group think. Reddit in particular reflects that. The right isn’t much better as it’s just an opposite group think ideology but it’s the primary active counter to the woke mind virus at this point in history. That and pill ideologies like red and black pills which are extremist and loosely based on truths but go way too far. However they do act as an opposing force to feminism and wokeism despite being nutty themselves. Andrew tate is another exam…
/r/MensRights15/12/23 03:22 AM
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6 4 is top 1% and that’s an ideal height if you are proportionate and look good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:39 AM
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Almost no men believe that. You fall for trolling Just because a man wants a young woman initially doesn’t mean that as she ages she will expire to him. Men tend to be much more loyal than women statistically in terms of ending marriage (70-90% women end it). Men are often the true romantics and love their wives forever, even though they initially want to find a young one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:30 AM
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Men and women peak differently. Men peak based on looks/money/status and that can be young or old. For most men who finally hit their stride it’s often right around 30-45 although some men do well earlier or later. Average men might never hit their stride and also start declining after 35-40. But high value men might be attractive into their 60s. Women peak almost solely on looks and that’s almost always when young (under 35 or 40). Most Average women are sexually desirable while they are young …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:19 AM
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Average men get next to nothing in modern times. They usually end up incels or settle for an overweight woman two years younger
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:12 AM
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In western society
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:10 AM
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Westernized women 18-24
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:10 AM
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I’m not sure if I believe humans are monogamous animals. I think most humans are serial monogamous and will sometimes swing to a better deal if it presents itself. Particularly women, whereas men tend to have polygamous affairs that involve sex only but not necessarily emotion. I don’t have an answer for you because your emotions in that scenario would dictate how you react
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:31 PM
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That’s a complex question. The answer is I don’t usually judge people based on a single scenario. Everyone lies. What matters is intention and subject matter. I judge people’s overall character through their actions. A few lies here and there isn’t enough for me to think someone is bad. For example women wearing makeup is essentially them lying about their appearance. But I won’t not date a woman who wears makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:26 PM
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The answer is that words don’t mean as much as actions do. You can tell someone’s character from spending time around them, seeing how they treat other people, and watching how they navigate the world. Words sometimes mean nothing, as people constantly lie and virtue signal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:31 PM
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Who said anyone is entitled to sex? Women fuck charming guys who are usually liars. Women don’t usually fuck honest guys who speak uncomfortable truths. Men eventually adapt and do what works. If anyone is entitled, it’s women. Men know they aren’t entitled to sex, but they do their best to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:15 PM
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Because that’s who women often sleep with: charming men who lie well and say/do the right things. Honest men are usually not charming and are not rewarded with sex, they are ghosted. Men simply adapts to what works with women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:13 PM
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Women reward liars by sleeping with them and punish honest men by ghosting them. Yet verbally they say they want an honest man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:12 PM
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Biology dictates when women should have children, not your opinion or mine When a woman is the most attractive and can land a male of the highest genetic quality and success is a good time to have kids A woman waiting until her looks and fertility are declining to where she has to settle for a lower value male (less handsome, less tall, less successful, etc) is biologically stupid but where modern women most often find themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:19 PM
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Age of consent laws are there for a reason and should be respected. And men don’t deserve anything, an adult woman chooses who she sleeps with. If a 20 year old woman chooses to fuck a 40 year old man: she made that choice as a consenting adult. It had nothing to do with that man deserving anything. Why would a man date a woman his own age especially if he’s over 40, if he’s capable of getting a younger woman? He’s going to get the best most attractive woman he can get and it’s rare for a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:23 AM
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Men should ceremoniously marry a woman whom they can create a family with, but not be legally bound to her. Because statistically it will end, and men should protect their assets. Nothing in life is permanent, everything is temporary. You can always hope for an everlasting union but statistics don’t support that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:28 AM
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It’s 90% when the woman is college educated. Look it up. The most cited reason for divorce is financial. Women leave men when they hit financial hardship at 10x the rate men leave women for a younger woman. Lose your job, lose your woman: that’s statistical reality If anything men who cheat with a younger woman still love their wife and want to keep her. Because men are more capable of polygamy and women tend to be serial monogamists. Which is one reason why infidelity is far worse when a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:00 AM
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Men want hot women because of biological reproductive instinct. There are more hot women under 25 than there are over 35. It has nothing to do with grooming bullshit, it’s simple biology. Men see nice tits, healthy skin, a firm ass, a tight waist, and wide hips and they want to fuck. It’s literally instinct
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:54 AM
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If you truly believe that having zero descendants and ending your bloodline is the key to selfish long term happiness: if you are wrong you will suffer the consequences of your own ignorance. All the family that could have existed, the beautiful children, grand children, great grand children. Their life experiences, moments to share, none of that will exist. Because u got fooled into believing in some sort of self serving “happiness”. Fools are usually victims of themselves and most people are f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:05 AM
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If you’re the type of person to believe generic studies, which always change, you might not be as intelligent as you think. Not having children is usually a decision based on selfishness, and the consequences of that decision are felt in old age when you have zero descendants. No children, no grand children, no great gran ls chikdren. No family tree. You chose to end your bloodline because u read a biased study that said being childless made u selfishly happier…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:59 AM
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Women’s fertility plummets closer to 43-45, not 35. 35 is just higher risk but not much higher. Women 35-40 are generally pretty fertile and safe if they are healthy. But over 40 fertility falls off a cliff for most women, especially after 42 These women who have lived hedonistically and are now childless typically turn to shaming older men for wanting a young woman to provide them with children. But shaming only works on beta males who actually care what other people think. Masculine men follow…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:55 AM
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Nobody should be “waiting”. Life is about the journey. But a certain percentage of men simply reach peak attractiveness in their 30s and 40s and all of a sudden have access to beautiful women who they didn’t have access to in their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:35 AM
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Why gamble with a young guy who might lose his job or become a bum? Life is always unpredictable, that’s why nature gave us instincts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:33 AM
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Men might be more physically attracted to women in their prime but they still love and are attracted to their older woman. It’s women who leave men 90% of the time, usually for financial reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:32 AM
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In reality, 90% of divorces are initiated by the woman. It’s rare for men to leave a woman for someone younger. Even if they find the young woman physically hotter, they love their wife. But women regularly leave men for the mildest of reasons, the most common one being financial such as losing his job. The statistics don’t lie
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:30 AM
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You are correct. Attractive Young women have ten times the sexual marketplace power of a tall, handsome, rich, charming man. But older women have little to no power at all besides getting laid easily, usually with undesirable men. An older woman who has lost her looks and has aging skin, droopy butt, sagging facial features, or looks like a clown from plastic surgery has about the same power as a short broke autistic guy. So what do they do? Downvote your post and shame men for preferring young …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:25 AM
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Nah, most normal sized women aren’t particularly attractive. But men have lowered their standards a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:17 AM
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How do you know he’s not attractive? Isn’t that an opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:16 AM
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If the 7 foot guy looks GOOD then many women will like him. If he looks gross, gangly, unattractive, etc then they won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:15 AM
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Some women can cum from a guy being 6 4 alone. Being too tall is only a thing if you look gangly, uncoordinated, wiry, and unattractive. Unfortunately many guys over a certain height do look like that and yes that’s unattractive. But women are not referring to unattractive men when they say tall. If you look strong, fit, well proportioned, coordinated, and aesthetically pleasing than its very hard to be too tall
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:12 AM

Have you tried not caring about what women and society thinks and instead living your life for yourself? The biggest thing you’ll face by approaching a woman and getting rejected is embarrassment. If you approach many women then you might be the target of social ostracizing or female reputation destruction. And if you approach a woman who’s not single or near a white knight you could get into a fight. Those are your repercussions. So learn how to avoid fights or how to fight. Learn how to not gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:02 AM
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I’m 42. The vast majority of women are infertile between 42-45. Perhaps over 90% in some literature. As a man who wants a large family, it makes absolutely zero sense for me to date women anywhere near my age. I’m also simply not attracted to most women over 40. Attraction is not a choice. I’d much rather date an attractive 25 or 30 year old woman. That’s not misogyny. When a woman says “I’m not attracted to men under 6 ft” you don’t see men claiming misandry. Instead you see feminists saying “y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:51 PM
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Actually men are used by women constantly for what they can provide. Useful and capable men are attractive meanwhile useless and incapable men are unattractive. Women use men for their genetics, their resources, their masculine presence, their protection, etc. Women are much more opportunistic than men. Men on the other hand typically only use women for two things, sex and companionship. Both of those things aren’t resources that can be extracted, but are part of that person. Their looks, person…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:14 PM
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It’s called common sense. I have eyes. Certain older men are very handsome. Not only do women say it, society acknowledges older male sex symbols. James Bond types. George Clooney, Sean Connery, Richard geere. Some old men are simply attractive and it’s obvious. There is a 75 year old guy at my gym who’s handsome as fuck. Women on the other hand, there isn’t a single post menopausal woman I’d want to have sex with. Unless I was older and it was my girlfriend or wife, then my taste would be diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:11 AM
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You’re basically describing women as what they are: pragmatic opportunists. They use men. Men are the true romantics and that gets them into a lot of trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:06 AM

Nutritional science is not very well understood and always evolving
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:29 PM

The information you’d get from reading about nutrition or speaking to a dietician.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:26 PM

How do you know that information is correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:25 PM

How do you know eating lots of vegetables is healthy? What if eating less vegetables is better for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:03 PM
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You view the world from a narrow perspective: your own. You’re not living life as an incel, but as a 24 year old woman where dating comes easy and maybe it comes easy for the men around you. You’re not seeing the men who struggle because they are invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:50 PM
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There is nothing I admire more in this world than a mothers love for her children. The most respectable thing on the planet, motherhood, has been brainwashed out of modern women. They have become so selfish, narcissistic, and entitled that modern women only think about themselves and don’t even want to be mothers anymore. Or when they do become mothers they are brainwashed to believe that fathers should be mothers too. Men are not, and cannot be mothers. They can only be fathers. Fathers play a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:25 PM
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Correct. Most Women don’t find pushover men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:12 PM
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What women think of a “pick me” girl is irrelevant to what men find attractive. Most Men are attracted to pick me, as a matter of fact it’s an ideal woman if she’s beautiful. Most Women are NOT attracted to simps. It’s weak, non masculine, pushover behavior The female equivalent of a simp would be a feminist. Most Men are absolutely repulsed by feminists and will only put up with one if she’s extremely physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:22 PM
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Men do not hate women their age just like women don’t hate short men and broke men with no income and no friends. They simply don’t prefer them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:10 PM
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Truth isn’t always kind
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:50 PM
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A pick me sounds like the perfect woman if she’s physically attractive. Simps are almost never attractive men. The question is silly because it’s like asking if an ideal woman or a loser man would do better? A better comparison would be asking if an aged, overweight, feminist would do better or a short, low income, simp. Because those are equally repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:48 PM
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If he’s actually a simp he will likely get fat and lose both his looks and money to a malicious woman through divorce. Men that stay good looking and rich aren’t simps. They understand the true nature of women and also work hard to stay good looking and protect their assets
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:43 PM
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Because most males evolved (by nature) to filter single women on age for fertility reasons the same way women evolved to filter single men on height or status/income. It has to do with reproduction and species survival. Many women would describe a man her height as short or a man that made less than her as not successful. Meanwhile many men think women their own age past 35 are old. Men and women are different and tend to like different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:34 PM
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A pick me girl is a great woman while the simp is a weak man. This is a dumb comparison. However it all Depends on the individual. But in general, women have most of the power in dating in the western world. By a large margin. So the pick me girl will likely win at the game of life and the simp will likely become an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:27 PM
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Women are attracted to attractive men. If the older guy is attractive than women will be attracted to him. If he’s unattractive then they won’t be attracted to him. Older men sometimes have things like maturity, charm, power, and experience which make them more attractive than younger men. But not every older man has these things or is physically attractive. Nobody believes women are going for an average unattractive beer belly older guy. But when a James Bond type of high value older man comes …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:22 PM
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Good, you’re allowed to have a type. You don’t speak for all women though
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:47 PM
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Most Modern western women are not for relationships. They are for sex until you are rich enough to travel the world and find a high quality foreign woman to start a family with. If you’re dumb enough to marry a western woman there is an 80% chance she will divorce rape you, and if she doesn’t she will make your life miserable with a dead bedroom and constant fighting.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:09 PM
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You bought into blue pilled ideology. But in the real world, women only respect men who are more powerful than themselves. Once women get the upper hand, they usually lose desire
/r/MensRights07/11/23 07:46 PM
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Terrible post. You’re delusional because of your depression and emotional state. To blame your parents for your problems is pathetic weakness and cowardice. Life is brutal for everyone, you’re lucky you weren’t born in Ukraine and had your limbs blown off in war. The only one responsible for your life is you. You deserve no sympathy. Either man up and improve your own life, or wallow in your own misery. You have the power to make your life great. It begins with resilience, dedication, consistenc…
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 07:29 PM
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I’d agree with you in the long run because I believe more often than not luck is due to your own life choices. You have to put yourself in positions to be lucky and remove yourself from positions to be unlucky. In the short term though, random things can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:24 PM
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Where did I say every man turns into a silver Fox. Most men will just get uglier with time. But a small percentage of winners will emerge amongst men given enough time. Some of which surprise everybody
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:30 PM
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Most humans lie to themselves. Women under 30 are often self absorbed narcissists who have no idea how their sexual market value will shrink with age. Meanwhile men are delusional and think they will get a 25 year old supermodel at 50 even if they don’t look like James Bond and have his charm and resources. Reality is brutal for both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:50 AM
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No, you have to earn it and be lucky. Most men will be even more undesirable as they age. But time has a way of filtering out winners and losers amongst men. It’s why so many women overwhelmingly prefer men over 30. Because it’s obvious who’s a winner and loser by then. Women often wait at the finish line and go for men who’ve already won in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:48 AM
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Who cares about most? Nature is cruel. 80% of men are invisible to women regardless of age. Only top tier men have options with women. Men with looks charm and power get the girls. Men without looks charm and power don’t. Doesn’t matter if the man is 20, or 50+. If he’s good looking, charming and successful he will get women, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:39 AM
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I date women I find attractive. Western women tend to be short term flings. They tend behave like men until they turn 40 or 50 and then start trying to be feminine and submissive when their market value is plummeting. If I was attracted to women over 40 who spent half their lives abusing their sexual marketplace power being pumped and dumped by chads and now want to pretend to be good women then I’d date western women for long term. But I’m not interested in older women. There are some good west…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:22 AM
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I agree that certain types of lying are bad. The best version of a man would be doing beneficial lies, not harmful ones. A woman wearing makeup and push-up bras and having breast implants and lipo is LYING about her genetic quality way more than a guy who tells a woman things she wants to hear so he can get laid. In an ideal world everyone is honest but in reality it’s your own responsibility to sift through the bullshit. If a man is fooled by makeup and fake tits or a woman is fooled by fake jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:09 AM
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90% if the woman has a college degree. Almost 100% if she’s far left, woke, feminist, and vegan as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:17 AM
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Modern western women usually do. There are billions of humans on the planet. Most females are not modern western feminists with extinction level reproductive rates. In other parts of the world, women prioritize family
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:46 AM
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That completely depends on the guy. If he looks old and unattractive then no. If he’s established and handsome then he has more options than ever. Older men with money and good looks have more options than blue pilled muppets realize. Even men over 50. They can literally fly anywhere in the world depending on their mood. It’s over for men when they lose their health/looks and money. That can happen to alcoholics and obese men as young as 35/40, or not even at 80 for Sean Connery and Al Pacino. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:43 AM
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Women have ungodly amounts of sexual and social power very early in life that most men NEVER have
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:37 AM
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A single man in his 30s is significantly different than a single woman in her 30s. This shouldn’t need to be explained. Women get much more power much earlier in life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:34 AM
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Don’t do dinner on a first date unless you’re hungry and cool with being stuck with someone you might not like while u eat
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:26 PM
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You’re virtue signaling You know you’d be lying through your teeth if you had a fat and ugly aunt who asked how her dress looked on her; you’d say “it looks great”, when you know she looks like chewed bubblegum. Why? Because you spare her feelings and make her feel good. If you told her the truth the net result would be worse because you’d hurt her feelings and feel bad about it yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:18 PM
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Look what’s happening to Ukrainian and Russian men in r/combatfootage . Looks like hell on earth. Meanwhile many of the women are leaving them or cheating on them with chads from other countries.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 02:30 PM
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True, but “Be the best version of yourself” is the best advice you can give someone. The best version of yourself does what it takes to succeed. Which includes lying or manipulating if the net benefit to everyone (not just yourself) is greater than telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:23 PM
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Life has no meaning other than what you give it
/r/MensRights05/11/23 05:05 PM
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He won too, he got another kid. At his age and success that amount of money is worthless to him, but passing on his genes might be priceless
/r/MensRights04/11/23 03:59 PM
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Some men want biological offspring
/r/MensRights04/11/23 03:58 PM
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The wall is almost delusion in todays market. Obese women and grandmas have hordes of simps after them. Men have hit new lows, and women are the new overlords It’s not going to change until world war 3 reduces the male population in half
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 03:34 PM
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I agree however Bruce Willis, Patrick stewart, and even the ladies favorite pornstar pulled it off https://imgur.com/gallery/HoE3b
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 04:31 AM
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Risk of miscarriage goes from 1% to 1.4%?
/r/MensRights01/11/23 07:45 PM
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That’s because most guys are insecure and look like shit. Being bald amplifies that to the negative and makes you look way worse. But if you’re actually good looking, it can be a positive masculine halo
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:38 PM
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Keeping your hair isn’t that important if you look good bald
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:18 PM
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They looked better in their 30s and 40s than their 20s
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:14 PM
2

All of the above and the stats throw out all the feminist, blue pilled nonsense you hear spewed in general
/r/MensRights31/10/23 03:43 PM
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Attractive White women are the most selective of all Women because they have the highest general SMV. Typically a hot white women is only going to date white men. A small percentage only date black or half black men. Hot white women rarely date anything else racially. They are also super choosy about height, looks, build, social status, dominance. Less attractive white women might date other races but the vast majority only date white men.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 06:18 PM
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This is easily provable wrong. Let’s say the price was 20 bucks to sleep with a 9 or 10. 99% who agree with this post would still be willing to pay 20 bucks to fuck a 9 or 10 whenever they want. So the price is the real problem. You’re just broke. 200-500-1000 bucks or whatever they usually charge is way too much for one hookup to you. If it was 20 bucks or cheaper than a regular date you’d probably do it on occasion and keep it to yourself
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:58 PM
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Yes, a cold approach has a low success rate. The woman might not even be single or you may not be her type. But women sending an indicator of interest, choosing signal is not a direct approach like the OP implies. It’s an indirect hint that the masculine male should make the approach and take the risk
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 05:56 PM
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Showing interest is not an approach. Women are indirect because they are risk averse. Men are direct, they will straight up approach a woman directly and risk rejection. Women rarely do that
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 05:48 PM
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No, most women are risk averse and rarely approach. Unless they are drunk. More often they send men signals, indicators of interest, hints that the man should approach. They also send hints of disinterest before they flat out reject you. You are right that women are the choosers though. They choose you by sending you signals, and then by pursuing a man’s attention.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 05:40 PM
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I agree, I’d like to know what the risk of having any negative outcome is (all risks combined) compared to younger fathers
/r/MensRights28/10/23 08:44 PM
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I don’t see where the study shows the data as a factor of paternal age. The studies I read showed that 20-30 year old men had a 0.1% chance of having an autistic child and that 80 year old men had 8x higher risk which would be 0.8% chance of having an autistic child
/r/MensRights28/10/23 08:07 PM
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Although those numbers are low it’s higher than I would expect. Do you have a link to the data? Regardless, those numbers in no way compare to 90% of women being infertile past age 43. Yet feminists try to throw men into that boat to disqualify them out of pure bitterness and resentment
/r/MensRights28/10/23 07:51 PM
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Yes it’s called a gynocentric society brainwashing people to believe blue pilled delusions. In reality both men and women are pretty shitty. Humans are selfish
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 07:48 PM
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Men are shitty, women are shitty: humans are shitty. The reason it’s a con is because blue pilled society fools people into believing that women are angels and men are the bad guys and it’s always mens fault
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 07:24 PM
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That’s such a vague statement though when the actual risk percentage isn’t shared.
/r/MensRights28/10/23 06:09 PM
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So according to you he shouldn’t exist? Ask the kid when he’s 30 if he wishes he was never born
/r/MensRights28/10/23 06:07 PM
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The risk does increase but the percentage risks are super super low compared to women’s risks. We are talking less than 1%
/r/MensRights28/10/23 06:05 PM
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If the chance is 0.1% then 1.5x more likely is 0.15% chance if multiplicative or 0.25% if additive. Either way the chance is still less than a quarter of 1%. Yet feminists create a fake narrative out of it as if men go infertile the same way women do
/r/MensRights28/10/23 06:04 PM
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How many 21 year old men are being invited onto yachts, mansions, parties, and being offered marriage. How many 21 year old women are? The power during the sexes isn’t even remotely equal during youth for the vast Majority of people. The latest statistics even show that 70% of men under 30 are single but only 30% of women under 30 are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:46 AM
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What if you’re half white and half Indian
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:45 PM
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Powerful men don’t have to use coercion or force. Men who lack power do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:32 AM
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What good is money when your bloodlines are going extinct. If your fertility rate keeps dropping and you don’t have immigration your population will grow old and eventually shrink. But most likely something will happen to cause a baby boom once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:47 AM
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That’s too bad. I just saw your birth rate is 1.5. Your people are going extinct due to far left muppet feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:34 AM
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Yet most people are blue pilled muppets who disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:24 AM
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That’s good. Belgium isnt as westernized as Southern California, which is the epicenter of far left hollywood woke muppet fantasies. If Belgium continues to socially deteriorate like LA has full of crime, homelessness, and childlessness or single mothers, and divorce than you’ll see it in 50 years
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:18 AM
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80% Southern California divorce rate, 90% filed by women if they are college educated Stats tell you the real story, not blue pilled delusions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:04 AM
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Men are romantics who pretend to be pragmatic. Women are pragmatic and pretend to be romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:12 AM

What about a man who’s dick is very big when he’s warm, relaxed or aroused but small when he’s cold, stressed, or uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:20 AM
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Completely agree. Many people with power abuse it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:49 AM
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Why do you understand this but none of the blue pilled muppets on here do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:32 AM
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Everyone. What is dread game? Women use it all the time and try to make their man jealous. Perfect example is women in relationships who constantly post on Instagram for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:31 AM
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Those men are conditioned. Men throughout history have married down and women marry up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:59 AM
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If hot girls are into them, they have power. It could come from looks, charm, intangibles. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:58 AM
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No, it’s a truth. If you have no power, you’re not gonna do well in dating. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep trying to gain power through action and trying to date. Self improve your looks, money, status, personality, behavior, etc and never give up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:23 AM
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It’s good. Fear preserves you by dread of punishment. The reason you don’t jump off the cliff is because the punishment is broken legs, back, or death. But The only punishment for leaving someone is missing that person and what they brought to the relationship. Even if it’s their mere presence. If you’re not afraid to lose someone’s presence, do you really love them? Therefore true love is associated with fear of losing them. If you have no fear of losing them, perhaps you don’t love them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:14 AM
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Life isn’t about the destination, it’s about the journey. You don’t need to wait to start dating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:06 AM
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My goal isn’t to make men look good or bad. It’s to speak the truth about human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:05 AM
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The actual quote is: it is much safer to be feared than loved because ...love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails. For example a woman can easily lose her love and obligation and then divorce you for her advantage. But if she fears losing you because she knows she it will be hard to find better and because you provide for her numerous thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:03 AM
1

U sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:27 PM
0

Yes so what? Life isn’t fair
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:00 PM
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Powerful men get the women they want. Powerless men do not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:31 PM
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She holds a lot of power. Immense power in a general sense. But there are men who hold more power than her in the context of their relationship. Those are the men she’s interested in and dating. She’s not dating men who want/need her more than she wants/needs them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:29 PM
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Yup. Looks and personality are a form of power because they give you power
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:23 PM
1

Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:22 PM
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Depends on how attracted I am to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:21 PM
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I wrote this because it’s true. That’s it. I don’t care who believes it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:09 PM
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Men don’t typically care about women’s money and independence. At all Id rather date a hot, young, smart, feminine woman who was completely broke and completely dependent on me than a less attractive woman who was completely independent and wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:07 PM
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I mostly agree with what you wrote, but you didn’t describe where I’m off
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:06 PM
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I don’t, they made my post a cmv
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:05 PM
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Study human hierarchal behavior then get back to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:03 PM
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Yes it does. His physical appeal absolutely does give him power. So do all of his other appeals. Anything that makes you desire him, is power for him
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:01 PM
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Ofcourse most people do not agree. Ever heard of idiocy of the masses? Or why when it comes to high performance the majority is always wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:00 PM
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Children need their parents more than their parents need them. How would that relationship work if children were more powerful than their parents? What if dogs were more powerful than their owners? All relationships are about power. Even friendships, and romance. People believe otherwise because everyone is delusional And yes romantic relationships both sides need each other for different reasons. The person who needs the other person less typically has more power
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:59 PM
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Power is your ability to get what you want. Usually because you’re independent and capable. Being charming is a form of capability. A man who gets what he wants is powerful in that context. A man who doesn’t get what he wants is not powerful in that context. All relationships are based on power
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:56 PM
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He does have power which you respect, but don’t acknowledge. Imagine he was less good looking (physical power loss) Imagine he was less charming (social power loss) Imagine he was broke and unemployed (financial power loss) Yet he was the same person. If you think your relationship would stay the same, you’re fooling yourself. Humans are hierarchal animals and he has enough power to keep you interested
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:54 PM
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It’s not hateful. That’s just one example scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:51 PM
1

Power is independence and capability. If you can’t get someone to like you then you don’t have power in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:51 PM
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Power is independence and capability. Not how you assert control over someone. Women aren’t attracted to men beneath them. Humans are hierarchal animals and females instinctively choose men more powerful. Height, income, stature, dominance are all indicators of your power, and all things women commonly care about in the opposite sex far more than the opposite. A high value man could easily go for a short, broke woman because men don’t typically care about that stuff. But women do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:49 PM
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I guess anyone could find it sad. I don’t because it’s how the world is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:44 PM
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The ability to pull baddies, is power. Therefore those line cooks have power. Power is independence and capability. The ability to pull women is capability
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:43 PM
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Not at all. Humans are hierarchical animals, this is a fact. This doesn’t mean that someone higher in the hierarchy is controlling someone lower. It means they have more options, independence and capability
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:42 PM
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It’s not about having the upper hand. Being charming and sociable is a form of power. Power is independence and capability and charm is about capability. I never said it was about resources. A charming man wields a lot of power
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:40 PM
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I’m not asking men to do anything. If you don’t have power as a man then your relationship will likely fail. The powerless men you describe in relationships likely have just enough power to be in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:37 PM
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Lots of similar sayings are true. Better to have a strong enemy and make him your ally than a weak friend who’s incompetence sabotages you both. It’s better to be hated than loved is the perfect example of a woman that keeps going back to her asshole boyfriend who treats her like shit because she’s madly in love with him, and ignores her nice guy beta friend who she vents to whom she “loves as a friend”. In essence her abusive boyfriend is the man she hates and her beta male friend is the man sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:33 PM
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Sad is always subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:29 PM
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That’s how all human hierarchies work because humans are hierarchal animals
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:29 PM
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A powerful man doesn’t need to make all the decisions nor be controlling. His power is innate due to his value, independence, and capability. A powerful man is much more likely to behave like you describe your husband. Controlling men are not typically powerful, they lack power and try to assert it through control
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:28 PM
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Being powerful is not the same as being someone’s master
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:20 PM
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Powerful men have the ability to get whatever they want. If you can’t then you aren’t as powerful as you thought
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:19 PM
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Because power allows you to get what you want in life Love does exist. Just because I’m more powerful than my dog doesn’t mean my dog doesn’t love me. But if my dog was more powerful than me, the relationship wouldn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:18 PM
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It’s not sad unless you were conned by blue pilled delusions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:16 PM
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It’s not one or the other. Being powerful doesn’t mean you lord over someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:15 PM
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No, I used that analogy to demonstrate what power is. You’re not your girlfriends boss and she’s not your employee. You still want to be a powerful man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:15 PM
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What does being powerful have to do with employees? A girlfriend is not an employee just because you have power
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:48 PM
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People who use the word social construct are usually far left wing muppets. No, gender roles comes from the differences between the sexes, such as testosterone levels and chromosomal differences. Men protect and provide, women nurture. And your right, If the woman doesn’t demonstrate interest and feminine submission to your masculine dominance on the date then you should fire her as a prospect. Which is why you should keep the first date cheap
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:04 AM
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Men and women are not the same. Equality and feminism are a lie. Men are providers and protectors. Females instinctively feel this despite their social brainwashing. That’s why men should pay if you want a second date. You demonstrate that by paying for the first date. Just keep it cheap so that u don’t get used or seem like a try hard. Spend more money on better dates when the woman shows her interest and chases you or becomes obviously sexually interested
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:52 AM
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Sure it is, if your first date is something cheap to you. Don’t take a first date to dinner unless you’re rich and don’t care about spending money. You can buy 1 drink at a bar for 10 bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:18 AM
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What do you get for opening the door for a stranger at Starbucks? Nothing, but you do it because it’s good etiquette. When a man and a woman go on a date it’s good etiquette for the man to pay. If you don’t want to feel like a chump after she ends the date with a hug and never texts you back then don’t invite her to a fancy dinner on the first date, do something simple until she’s made her interest clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:02 AM
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Courting is necessary, but has evolved. Obviously if you court like men used to you’ll be treated like a beta. However it is usually men that have to make the first move, because making a move is taking a risk. Masculine men take calculated risks. Most women do not make the first move and are more risk averse. They will instead show signs or indicators of interest. Men should usually make the first move. Because it’s masculine to Initially a woman has more power. She can reject him and probably …
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:24 PM
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Then so be it. Men who cower to women, lose
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:21 PM
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The men who cower to shame are the ones who get cucked. The ones who don’t care about others opinions will get the paternity test
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:21 PM
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The second half of the description is irrelevant. I wouldn’t date a sub 5 overweight woman. But I’d date a 7+, slim thick woman with nice tits and ass regardless of her income and education. Men don’t typically care about income and status, women do
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:53 PM
0

So you’d choose your personal happiness over your children’s genetics? Isn’t that selfish?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 03:41 AM
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Most men are repulsive to women
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:11 AM
1

I’d say about 6.5
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:11 AM
0

She’s at least a 6
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:10 AM
2

Good, then you’re doing well reproductively. Most men aren’t
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:09 AM
0

So you must have kids with an 8+ female then I take it?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:08 AM
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That’s the trade off Would you rather reproduce with an 8+ attractive female but have to be a stepfather to one or two kids Or would you rather reproduce with a 5 female who has no kids Throw idealism aside because everyone would choose an 8+ female with no kids. But real life isn’t always ideal I’d pick the hot woman because I’d want my kids to have good genetics
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:07 AM
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Losers in nature are the men who die without children, or children from low quality woman. This guy had a kid with an attractive woman. Therefore if you don’t have kids, maybe you are the loser biologically and not him
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:03 AM
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He successfully reproduced with an attractive woman. Is it an ideal situation? Obviously not. But he’s a biological winner. In nature, The real losers are the men who don’t reproduce or reproduce with a low quality female. Therefore you might call the first guy an alpha and this guy a beta. But if you’re calling him beta or a loser and you’re with a less attractive woman then you’re an omega, and if you’re with no woman at all and have no offspring you’re a zeta and a complete failure
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 01:59 AM
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You’re half right and half wrong. Most things in the world are cyclical. Ice ages and warming periods for example. Populations booms and busts. Nature always finds a way to challenge life to either adapt or perish. You are not guaranteed or entitled to anything in life. Nature is brutal. To think every man is entitled to a woman is blue pilled Disney fantasy. Sexual selection is a brutal process and that’s partially what you observe today where women’s standards are so high they would rather not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:50 AM
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It doesn’t matter, just like your opinion doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:01 AM
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That’s closed minded thinking. There is no justifying murder yet murdering a terrorist is ok and murdering a cow is ok to most people. Cheating hurts the person being cheated on. But it can benefit the cheater and it can benefit the offspring who come from it, who wouldn’t exist if the cheating didn’t take place. I don’t advocate cheating. But the world isn’t black and white
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:00 AM
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You see, right and wrong are rarely absolute but usually based on perception. Is the hunter evil for killing the cow? Killing the cow is bad for the cow, but it feeds the village. Similarly you have judged your dad to be a scumbag, and maybe most of society would too: but what if he isn’t? That’s a judgement, a label, from a perspective. What if how he behaves is what’s best for him, and what’s best for his future children, even though it emotionally hurts people as well. What if he didn’t behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:38 PM
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Correct, that’s why men have the best success dating women who need them for something. The simplest way to do that is by being 2-3+ points more attractive than her on a 10 scale. Then she needs you for your genetics. Another route is to be significantly smarter, or wealthier than her. Then she needs you for your wisdom or to move up in social class. Women that don’t need you will get rid of you as the wind blows
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 08:02 PM
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Except men aren’t allowed to have preferences. If an older guy wants a younger or more attractive woman, society attempts to shame and attack
/r/MensRights22/10/23 07:03 PM
1

Skincare routines are much like supplements: worthless The best skincare routine is diet, sleep, exercise, and lifestyle choices
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:22 PM
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The cure is to not care about what other people think
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 09:50 PM
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Biologically speaking: surviving and having children and grandchildren is success. Dying childless or grandchild less is biological failure. Doesn’t matter if you wanted kids or not, that is how biological reproductive success is defined
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:58 AM
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1 in a million genetics isn’t a normie
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:05 AM
0

Life is about making lemonade with lemons. Nobody is dealt a perfect hand in life, so be thankful for your blessings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:49 PM
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Women can be attracted to whatever they want just like men. The men shaming them are no better than the woke feminists who for example are trying to force men to be attracted to obese elderly women instead of young fit women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:40 PM
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Your society isn’t the world either. In most western societies it’s normal to be fat and obese. That doesn’t mean it’s correct. Is your goal to be like everyone else in your society? Why do you care so much what most people do? Sheep follow the herd and look for social approval
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:46 PM
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Your circle of friends isn’t the world. Most Women are very socially influenced creatures. Sheep like. So if your friends aren’t doing it, or it’s shunned, you won’t be doing it either. College can be a place of extreme social influence and brainwashing, so if age gaps are shunned amongst a college demographic than an older guy would be foolish to try to find his young match in that sea of sheep. Saying that interest isn’t there isn’t genuine, it depends on the woman and her level and type of so…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:41 PM
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It’s a real issue, but the world has had plagues and ice ages and asteroid hits and more. It will be a test on future humans. AI and robots may solve some of the issues. Much more advanced than what we or Japan has now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:24 PM
1

Some men are also selective. I am very selective. Most men simply can’t be selective because they have no options to select from
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:07 PM
1

Then find a better way to adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:30 PM
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This isn’t news. Women control access to sex their entire lives. The wall for women is when the high value man they want will no longer commit to them. For women who don’t care about commitment, the quality of man, and just want casual sex then they can have that forever
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 07:00 PM
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There is no wall for sex. There is a wall for commitment from high value men
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 06:58 PM
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The wall for women isn’t about casual sex. Women have control over that for their entire lives. Very few men have any power there. Women control access to sex, period. The wall is when a woman can no longer acquire commitment from the caliber of men she is attracted to. You simply don’t understand what the wall is
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 06:08 PM
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Men don’t automatically get better with age. You have to earn it. The men who didn’t build themselves up are going to suck later in life as well. The men who built themselves into something often thrive in their 30s and 40s with women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:41 PM
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Men don’t automatically get better with age. You have to earn it. If you aren’t better looking at 30 then you were at 20 (more muscle, less fat, better clothes, better grooming, etc) then it’s your fault
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:40 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxvyAwfuVDE/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:18 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxvyAwfuVDE/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 05:17 PM
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California. Look at Kevin hart
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 11:55 PM
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I am 6 4, in the us But I’ve seen short men do well if they have outstanding other qualities. Look at Kevin hart
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 11:54 PM
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I don’t think height is much of an issue for men until you’re under 5’. If a guy is 5 2 or 5 3 he’s going to be just fine, less than five feet you’re ok if you’re handsome And rich.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 11:14 PM
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Ofcourse. The way to win at any game, especially in life, is to never give up. Adapt and try again
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:53 PM
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There are many more men under 30 than women under 30 because 105 boys are born for every 100 girls. So you begin with a population imbalance and then add hypergamy and you end up with most women desiring the same small percentage of men. So that small percentage of men does a few things They might opt for a mostly short term dating strategy, dating and fucking multiple women. This is hook up culture They might cheat on their girlfriend because of their abundance of options Add in that most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:03 PM
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Because nobody in life has ever dealt with the hardships you have? Losers always justify giving up Winner never give up. They may fall down, but they always dust themselves off and get right back up The right mindset is that NOTHING can stop you from achieving your goals. Anxiety? Autism? Laugh. Someone can blow your legs off and you’re still moving forward. You must become a terminator. Life is about adaptation. Adapt or die. The choice is yours
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 11:00 PM
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Doesn’t matter. You should read “the little engine that could”
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 10:18 PM
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It’s over when you give up and stop bettering yourself and adapting. It’s never over if you never give up
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 08:30 PM
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That makes no sense. Why wouldn’t a man with healthy testosterone levels want to have sex with an attractive adult woman during the prime of her fertility? Personally, I do think women are hotter from 25-35 than 18 if they take care of themselves, but many women from 18-25 are stunning
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:05 AM
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All pills are half true nonsense. But each pill is more true than the ones before it. From least true to most true Blue, Red, Purple, Black, White, Grey And that’s life, it’s all a grey area. You either constantly adapt to new information and a changing environment, or you fail. It’s evolution
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 03:28 PM
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Nah, he’s an exceptional person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:09 AM
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Normal 35+ men who aren’t socially conditioned muppets would instinctively want to fuck attractive 18+ women. That doesn’t make them creeps, it makes them men with healthy testosterone levels
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:16 PM
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U have it backwards. Young attractive women have the most sexual market power in the world outside of a tiny percentage of male celebrities and outliers. Those women can choose to date ANYONE. They can choose to date men their age, or even younger. It’s when these attractive young women willfully choose a significantly older man that woke muppets lose their minds and pretend she’s a victim who can’t make her own choices
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:24 PM
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It’s not about the age of the woman, it’s about how woke, feminist, and societally indoctrinated she is. Gen z has the most woke muppets of any generation. Seems like Half of them don’t even identify themselves as human
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:22 PM
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Woke Muppets don’t like age gaps because they are virtue signaling social justice warriors and view the world through the lens of a victim. They don’t understand that the world is competitive and that accepting victimhood makes you weak. They are always looking for an oppressor and a victim so that they can earn brownie points by making a stand against it. Whether it’s veganism, feminism, anti racist, anti age gap, anti capitalism, whatever. All of these cults are related to each other through t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:51 PM
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Great username it’s so accurate. There is nobody more hated than he who speaks the truth. Sometimes, even often, the comments with the most downvotes or a controversial mix are actually far more truthful than what’s highly upvoted
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:54 PM
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I’m single. When I date young women, I don’t discuss age gaps because they are adults who make their own choices. They could easily go date anyone they want. Women have so much sexual power until their looks fade
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:24 PM
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Well yes arguing with a fool only proves there are 2. Reddit is a lot of fools arguing, because it’s a form of entertainment. So I am guilty of engaging in that for entertainment purposes. In real life I wouldn’t even respond to these nut jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:20 PM
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You’re trying to flip it around. Anyone has the right to think someone is creepy. People can think, shame, judge whoever they want. But anyone also has the right to think the people who do that stuff and call others creepy, are really mostly the true idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:11 PM
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The same people who shame a 45 year old man for marrying and starting a family with a 20 year old woman will celebrate an obese woman as a lingerie model and two men sticking their dicks up each others asses during pride parades. Far left progressive woke feminist muppets, especially the women but the men too, like to pretend they are tolerant people yet they pass more judgement and hatred than any other group. This is why Elon musk regularly states that the greatest threat to humanity, more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:41 PM

Being overly emotional as a man is cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:12 PM
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Women evolved to be attracted to men more powerful than themselves. When society takes away that power from men, women find themselves easily gaining and losing attraction because they themselves have far more power than they evolved to have. The best way to make a marriage work is for the woman to need the man, depend on him, and have less power than him. This innately makes her also more sexually attracted to him. It’s all politically incorrect and socially wrong to say; but it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:15 PM
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A fist is bigger than almost any man’s erect penis and lesbians often fist each other. Do you think if you met a man with a giant erect penis the size of a fist, that you’d be more interested in men?
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 07:34 PM
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All the evidence points to the fact that giving women or children too much power has dangerous consequences. Perhaps there is a reason men kept women in check for 99% of human history before feminism. The birth rate collapse, which people mistakenly think is due to economic reasons, is actually mostly due to female empowerment. The poorest women have the most children. Especially historically during human evolution, before money was even invented, women were having many children. Now bloodlines …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:18 PM
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Hope
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 06:17 PM
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Life isn’t about a destination, it’s about the journey. You have 30 years to make it work between 20 and 50. That’s on you Losers will always find a way to give up with their warcries of “cope” and “it’s over” Winners on the other hand never truly give up. When they fall, they get up, dust themselves off, and try again. Forever
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 05:02 PM
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Intelligence is a very generic term that doesn’t mean much, since there are so many different types of intellect. But you’re absolutely right that the average woman isn’t drawn to the booksmart nerdy dude who has glaring intellectual deficiencies in other areas such as communication and socializing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:40 PM
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Tit goggles mostly is I’ve even gone for slim women with huge heavy naturals that I wouldn’t be attracted to nearly as much if they were flat chested
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:12 AM
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What you wrote is half true. You have a base attractiveness with your looks first, then your behavior. Afterwards Status does in fact make men more sexually attractive to women and acts as an amplifier. And low status reduces sexual attraction. Your example is from a male brain perspective. Female brain operates with different wiring and hormones. Women get status goggles the way men get beer goggles and tit goggles. You all know that guy who fucked a 4/10 chick but she has massive h cup tits an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:44 AM
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Women want to be approached by men they are attracted to when they are available. They don’t want to be approached by unattractive men or when they aren’t available. But since men often have no way of knowing whether a woman finds them attractive or is single, they have to approach to find out. Which means it’s irrelevant what “women want”. Real men go for what they want regardless of if it’s going to bother some women, and learn how to deal with rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:38 AM
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Actually it does. If a woman was told a 9/10 chad was a janitor and lived with his mom, her attraction to him would lessen to maybe a 7-8/10 Whereas if a woman was told a 5/10 avg dude was a pro tennis player and multimillionaire he would become a 7-8/10 to her The female brain gets status goggles. That’s why they find famous male actors who are often only a 7/10 to be 10/10s Status definitely raises raw sexual attraction. But it won’t make an ugly guy like Danny Devito hot or desirable to most …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:55 AM
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That’s actually not true. All women evolutionarily find high status men more attractive than low status men. A non gold digger will lose some attraction for a janitor and gain some for a doctor or ceo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:18 AM
0

When fate decides I’m ready
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:20 AM
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Because it makes far left woke muppet feminists upset and it’s wrong to ever offend anyone so just do as you’re told
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:49 AM
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They have 3 kids. Once a week with a 10 is plenty just make it last an hour
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:36 AM
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This is just common sense, which blue pilled muppets don’t have
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:50 AM
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If you aren’t rich, getting rich opens a lot of doors with women. So do it, that’s on you
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:35 AM
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Like I said, I believe in natural procreation if possible. My goal is to have many children with a 10/10 when I land her
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:33 AM
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Then play a numbers game. Why dote when it doesn’t turn out well? This guy might have pulled this woman from central or South America
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:32 AM
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Who cares. I’m telling you what I see every day.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:31 AM
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Find me an egg donor who is a fit 25 year old Latina with natural h-cup breasts, a slim waist, and a bubble butt then. I’ll immediately sign up to have 17 kids with her
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:30 AM
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Yes because I live in a rich area
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:28 AM
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Not true. 70% of men die childless. In early agricultural society only 1 in 17 men had kids. https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/03/the-brutality-of-the-stone-age-only-one-man-had-children-for-every-17-women-8000-years-ago.html#:~:text=The%20advent%20of%20agriculture%20led%20to%20a%20genetic%20bottleneck%208%2C000%20years%20ago.&text=Bad%20news%20for%20anyone%20who,DNA%20for%20every%2017%20women. Furthermore Only through natural procreation does the best sperm fertilize the egg. Artificial met…
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:26 AM
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I mean he was prob a 5/10 in looks. Western Women might give him a 3 or 4 due to his height and being Asian
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:21 AM
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Yes because American women in general are far left feminist muppets with insane standards. For western women the race pill, height pill, black pill etc holds true most of the time. Particularly on dating apps This guy would have no matches on dating apps. Yet he’s procreated 3 children with a 10/10. Dude is winning at life compared to the internet losers who always claim it’s over for them
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:20 AM
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I don’t think this is rare. I regularly see rich men with hot women half their age. Like every day. It’s only on the internet where people pretend it’s rare
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:18 AM
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Keyword initially. The black pill is somewhat true when first meeting, up to about 5 mins into an interaction. After which chemistry, behavior and status and other factors begin to take over. Black pillers don’t realize this and think it’s all looks forever.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:17 AM
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She had 3 children with him. She looked like she could have been a former prostitute in Mexico just because she was a literal 10/10 with enormous h cup real looking boobs, they didn’t look fake, on a slim waist. Maybe he rescued her from that life
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:12 AM
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Doesn’t matter he passed on his genetics with a 10/10 female. With 3 kids. Meanwhile you’re probably a biological dead end with 0 kids
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:09 AM

Why do you talk about average men? Average men are sexually invisible. Nobody is saying a 40 year old dude with a beer belly and premature wrinkles who works 50 hours a week and is an alcoholic is attractive. We are talking about age and testosterone. It’s clear from evidence that age itself isn’t the cause of declining testosterone, it’s poor lifestyle choices or bad health.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:21 PM

The articles you linked even said that it’s not due to age but due to lifestyle factors. If you don’t workout and eat poorly you’re gonna have worse health at 40 then at 25. Do you have any common sense? Depending on the sport athlete often peak between 25-35 and in some sports don’t retire until 40-45 and that’s after two decades of wear and tear of playing hard. Look at Tom Brady. Look up the age of ufc champions, usually 30-35 at peak, some are even over 40. Randy couture won the heavyweight …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:09 PM

Red pill is simply the first step in breaking away from blue pilled delusion but it’s wrong too. It’s like the opposite of feminism. It usually leads to black pill and then ultimately white pill or no pill. Red pill is half truth BS, but it’s good for breaking people out of blue pilled delusion Here is some science for you: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110607121129.htm#:~:text=Handelsman%20and%20his%20team%2C%20however,no%20symptoms%20to%20complain%20of. Like I said my testoster…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:42 PM

Actually we live in the same community and so I decided to make her my friend and not hook up. So we chat and hang out here and there but I never make a move. Also, I’m dating a few other women who’s ages are all over the place. One is 22, one 32, and one is 45
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:29 PM

No, a flawed scientific study is not a fact. you’re obviously a leftist who cites studies as if they are the word of god. Science isn’t a religion. It changes with better information. Those older studies have begun to be disproven. Testosterone declines with age very slowly in healthy males, and usually not until 60s or 70s. They found the reason younger men had lower testosterone in the old study was due to poor lifestyle choices or health reasons. Not due to age. Healthy men had roughly the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:26 PM

Yeah she wants to fuck because she’s made it clear she likes my body and my height 6 4. We met at the pool remember
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:22 PM
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Attractive men aren’t old at 30 and 40. They peak at that age in many ways. UFC champions often average 35 years old
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:15 AM
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I was bald by 25. Got more attention from women than ever. Beer gut is not related to age, it’s related to habits. I regularly date women in their 20s at 42
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:12 AM
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Beer gut? Those aren’t usually the older men who get young women. It’s typically hot or rich older guys. I’m 42 and have shaved my head since 25. I date women 18-45 and it’s only gotten better with time. Right now I have a hot 25 year old I met at a pool party texting me constantly. You assume your little bubble is the reality of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:08 AM
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A lot of young women like hot older guys. Especially in their 30s and 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:05 AM
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It’s only rare to woke feminist blue pilled muppets. It was the norm for high value older men to mate with younger women throughout human evolution, for hundreds of thousand of years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:03 AM
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Pretty much none of what you said is true, I’m 42. My testosterone is the highest it’s ever been, I look the best I ever have, and I do the best I’ve ever done with women. Aging is real, and all humans age. But different people age differently. Women have a hard time accepting that they get a ton of sexual power early in life, and lose it as they get older whereas men sometimes and often take time to build themselves into their best versions later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:52 AM
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Dating apps isn’t real life though. Maher could be mogged by a much taller more muscular dude with a more alpha presence in real life even though that guy would get less matches on apps
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 03:02 PM
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When you get lemons, you make lemonade Watch some animal documentaries to understand how brutal reality is Visit a hospital and you’ll see real suffering You should realize how blessed you are, and how blessed you can be with the right mindset Being a winner is a choice. By choosing to never give up and always be the best version of yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:19 AM
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Very true. Beta muppets think a good date is one of indifference, where nothing went wrong. But that’s actually a bad date. A good date is only one where there is mutual attraction. She will let you know with either words or with body language that her attraction is there. If she didn’t, most likely the date didn’t go as well as you thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:42 PM
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Life is a struggle. Winners aren’t the ones who had it easy, winner are those who triumphed over adversity. life isn’t easy for anyone. It’s a test for anyone and everyone. Different people have different challenges. It’s easy to look at others who are more fortunate in some area and feel sorry for yourself. That is envy and is a loser mindset. Adopt a winner mindset. Embrace suffering and challenge. Nothing can defeat you. You didn’t choose life on easy mode, you chose life on hard mode because…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:38 PM
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That’s the weakest choice The strong choice is to never give up or lose hope, no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:22 PM
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All men have a somewhat reasonable chance with women who have lower SMV than themselves
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 09:56 PM
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Because most ethnics have super low SMV on average compared to whites and some physically gifted blacks
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 04:46 AM
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I once had a woman tell me she needs to be fisted with my whole hand, and then fucked at a particular angle right afterwards in order to cum. It sounded ridiculous but I listened to her and she literally squirted everywhere and was basically in love with me after that. Women who don’t say anything keep you guessing. Every woman is so different in what they like
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 04:44 AM
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Why would anyone be angry about low birth rates? That’s something that’s going to affect the future population. Raising concerns about consequences isn’t anger
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:52 PM
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Half truth. Some women do infact really like men’s physical bodies and obsess over things like height, broad shoulders, big dick, etc. but in general woman are more about how a man makes them feel then the pure physicality like men can be women and tits/ass
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:02 PM
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That’s a subjective opinion. Different people like different things. And difference faces appeal to different people. That’s one reason people look different all over the world
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:11 AM
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No dude, maybe your male body isn’t attractive. You can search for aesthetic men on google to get an idea of how fit men’s bodies are very attractive. Men get good bodies from consistent discipline and hard work. If your body is ugly it means you likely don’t workout every day, don’t eat right, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:58 AM
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The majority of Modern men are complete losers and that’s why women don’t select them. A small minority of men are some of the best mankind has ever seen and most women want those guys. Female Desire is even more “unfair” than wealth distribution
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:54 PM
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That’s your perspective because you think you know what traits are good and what traits are bad But nature knows better than you
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 04:55 PM
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Iq isn’t selected against. Booksmarts is often selected against when the booksmart person is socially inept.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 04:50 PM

Depends on many factors. The two most important is are you white and are you tall? If you are neither of those two then your dating pool becomes a LOT SMALLER because most western women initially pick men with those two traits when given a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:31 PM
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How else would u ostracize dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:03 AM
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It’s easy and convenient. Just like onlyfans. Shaming women for having an only fans or using dating apps won’t do much
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:40 AM
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You hit the nail on the head except the part about dating apps. You can’t force people to regress even if it was better before
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:47 PM
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It’s not just that, it’s also culture. Women from non-feminist non-gynocentric cultures also behave differently even though they are instinctually still women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:42 AM
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Your case is an exception. Marrying a western woman is essentially insanity/stupidity in many cases
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:33 AM
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Dumb people, which is most people, don’t even realize this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:30 AM
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As a man there are no real benefits to you besides maybe social status, but lots of drawbacks. However there are lots of benefits to your kids. So it’s more of a selfless act. Getting married to a modern western woman, especially feminist, is incredibly stupid in this day and age. The move to make is to find a quality feminine woman and then have a ceremonial non legal marriage for social status and family creation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:25 AM
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Reddit is mostly brainwashed blue pilled muppets and feminist cucks
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 05:29 PM
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Yes you are right. But that’s also why modern marriage is mostly for naive blue pilled muppets who are shocked when they get divorced…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:21 AM
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A woman with a hairy vagina, large breasts, big butt, pronounced labia, etc isn’t a child. Those are all secondary sexual characteristics that adult women have and they don’t magically appear at 18. It’s an arbitrary number to fit the general population
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:46 PM
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The anti age gap thing is highly related to the woke mind virus and cancel culture. It stems from ultra far left feminist muppets lines of thought
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:35 PM
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The whole anti age gap movement is not based on any sound logic as you clearly pointed out. Nobody is forcing age gap relationships to happen. Women can simply opt out of them if they want. Which means there shouldn’t be anything to be upset about in the first place. So then why is there so much fuss? Because when a high SMV older man, like Leo DiCaprio for example, dates hot young women: it makes older insecure women and younger insecure men feel bad. Ultra brainwashed young women also hate age…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:33 PM
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Very few women die in childbirth, but of those few more black women die than other races. The main reason for that is that there are more obese and diabetic or other health issues in black women than other races The birth rate decline is likely due to several factors. Feminism is one of many of those factors
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:24 AM
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You just linked a study about men in generals declining sperm counts(including young men), not an age specific study with specific data points. You are essentially parroting fake talking points which you don’t even understand
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:18 PM
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What am I supposed to be embarrassed about again? Toxic femininity = attempts at character assassination Jordan Peterson describes you perfectly towards the end of this clip https://youtu.be/0dWgzV3lCok?si=v3pvGsYlh3URaemq
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:16 PM
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I’ve read all of those studies. Look at the actual data and risk percentages. They are stupid low. Spun by feminists like you into a fake narrative Women can choose anyone they want. I don’t care what a woman chooses. She can choose to be fisted by a lesbian. So Why do you care when a hot young women chooses a man 20+ years older? I’d want my son/daughter to date whoever they want. I wouldn’t dictate who they’d date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:10 PM
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Feminine attempts at shaming, and character assassination are funny. I’m embarrassed for her and for u, not for myself. I’m happy to be 42 and I’m happy to date younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:06 PM
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I think the hottest women are 25-35. The only reason 18-25 is where the most attractive women are for the general population is because most humans don’t prioritize looks and health and instead eat poorly, don’t exercise, and drink alcohol and party sacrificing proper sleep
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:34 PM
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Not to me. Take Brad Pitt for example. To me he peaked in Troy right at 40
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:30 PM
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Yeah I agree to that. But outliers are notable, general population are the invisible masses. Attractive people are always outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:30 PM
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All ages but usually not under 25. But the woman who’s been pursuing me the most is a 25 year old who lives near me that I met at the pool and we hang out together often and she’s made it clear
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:28 PM
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You can peak in 40s as a man to women who like a slightly more mature look. Most of the top male Hollywood stars are at or above 40
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:27 PM
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Outliers do. I feel like my looks are peaking now at 42 judging by the attention I get from women. my attention from women skyrocketed at around 25 like you pointed out. before 20 I felt invisible to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:26 PM
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Some are though. They may be outliers but they do exist, and are common enough. U can find them at high end restaurants dining with women 20+ years younger
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:23 PM
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I agree but with some stipulations. I’d say what you said holds true for the general population, but the most attractive humans are outliers. Most women are physically peak 18-25 and men 25-35 or so just like you said. But peak outlier humans break these general population trends due to good genetics and focusing on health and looks. For people who focus on their looks and for outliers at the top of attractiveness I think both sexes peak later. The hottest women peak 25-35 and the hottest men pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:17 PM
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The entertaining part is in the “why” of disagreement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:16 PM
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Disagreeing with muppets might be weird to you, but it’s entertainment to me I don’t believe women expire at 30 at all. I think that’s near peak beauty. I’m genuinely more attracted to 30yo women than 20. Even hot 40yo women are still hot, but I wouldn’t have a relationship with them because they couldn’t offer me a large family in the future. I’d still date a 20yo-40yo even if I was 80. Doesn’t mean I’ll get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:03 PM
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You’re reciting fake narratives and fake alarmist studies. Even An 80 year old man has a less than 1% chance of having a child with most specific birth defects. And when did someone ever say that hot women should be with gross men? News flash: the 40+ year old men who actually pull hot women in their 20s aren’t gross men. Women have agency and gross men get rejected. It’s the hot, tall, and/or rich older men who are pulling in young baddies. The gross older men you described are already getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:57 PM
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Nice mischaracterization. Changing peoples opinions is a waste of time. Reddit is a form of entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:48 PM
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Beta blue pilled males also try to virtue signal by siding with women or society in general. They think it makes them sound like good people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:43 PM
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So a fit rich attractive 35-40+ year old man dating an attractive 20 year old is a “yellow flag” even though they could start a family together… But two men having anal sex or men dressing up pretending to be women is something to celebrate such as in pride That’s when you know we live in a clown society
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:36 PM
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And your opinion matters how much to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:33 PM
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Mentally ill progressive feminists need some type of make believe injustice to whine about so that they can virtue signal and have a purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:29 PM
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Low testosterone men are obedient. High T men go for what they want. A high T man will shoot his shot with that slim big titted 18 year old when he’s 80 because he doesn’t care about others opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:21 PM
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Good thing your opinion doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:10 PM
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Nobody cares about your demented bubble of a world view. In reality most younger women these days are gross too. Just being young alone doesn’t make someone attractive. I find 80-90% of young women to be repulsive. Older women are even more repulsive at a rate of 90%+. Men objectively look better than women these days because of how difficult life, sex and dating has become that only the hyper competitive genetically blessed men have risen to the top and monopolized the attractive women in the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:08 PM
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Our society wants to shame older men for being attracted to prime aged fertility females, yet wants to celebrate homosexual sex that cannot produce offspring. Society has taken a deep dive down an ultra progressive, gynocentric, feminist path masked under the virtue signaling guise of empathy. The results will be catastrophic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:02 PM
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You sound extremely brainwashed. When men see a young healthy fit woman with a pretty face and nice tits and ass they want to fuck and it’s as simple as that. It’s called biology that kept humans from going extinct. No amount of your socially gynocentric feminist brainwashing will change biological instinct
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:57 PM
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Female entrepreneurs, physicians and attorneys. They are almost always very masculine and unappealing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:02 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:59 AM
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To u
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:10 AM
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All of the above, not one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:07 AM
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I’m literally physically stronger at 42 than I’ve ever been in my life. I consider myself to be near peak. If we include absolute physical peak and potential I would say for me it was 25-35
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:02 AM
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