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Having sex they agreed to with adults, that did not involve coercion or whatever, who cares. Turns out a lot of people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:56 AM
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usually keeping it - which is intensely difficult and stress inducing and which necessitates very hard work. I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about wealth. That's why I said wealthy capitalists, as in assets producing wealth rather than making money by the sweat of your brow. Alpha guys don't struggle for companionship in exactly the same way. Women are hoping they get a chance with these guys. Betas? Sweat of their brow to scrape by.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:56 AM
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In no way shape or form should 16 year olds be getting fucked by adults or married off to adults. That is evil thinking resulting from an abusive history that never valued individual rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:44 AM
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If your experiences are what you say they are (blue collar millionaire?) them you understand the difference which exist between the outlooks of rich and poor in regards to money. When you have it you have it and other things become the focus of your life. Your needs are met, you move up a free level in Maslow's Hierarchy. If you're wanting for money, it's a weight on your shoulders that never eases, they're always thirsty. Alpha guys are the former, red pill and PUA guys are the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:42 AM
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Clearly you don't personally know many "wealthy capitalists." I know many, and generally speaking they are by far the hardest working and most stressed individuals I know Oh please. They are not called the "idle rich" for nothing. If they want something they just buy it. If they want something done, they pay someone to do it. If a problem arises they throw money at it until it goes away or they pay an attorney to deal with it. I have worked for high wealth individuals, consulted for them, even p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:43 AM
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Just his recorded voice, the laughter of the people sitting with him, his acknowledge of it, apology, and description of it as "locker room talk". Do you need something more?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:43 PM
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I'm asking OP to define "locker room talk". That's what Trump called his bragging about sexual assault, and people laughed. It's that the kind of locker room talk OP is wanting to discuss? Or "light gossiping"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:29 PM
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The age of consent is fine where it is. The issue is not the age of consent, the issue is grown men thinking they should have the right to fuck children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:27 PM
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No one cares about that shit. The problem is that the CHILDREN in this equation are not of age to consent. We don't care about whether it's "normal" to be sexually attracted to children, we care about not allowing grown men to rape children. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:43 PM
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locker room talk is just like light gossiping Oh really? Are we talking about the locker room talk that is like light gossiping or the stuff that is more like laughing about sexual assault and calling women cunts? Pretty big difference there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:20 PM
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And neither is University culture the norm for society in general, but definitely is for Reddit people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:17 PM
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men to whom women are sexually attracted have often been that way since puberty and are approached so often that it can be difficult for them to learn "game." Wealthy capitalists never know what it's like to work for a living or the stress of losing your job or being unemployed. They want more money? Start a new business, or buy one. People are willing to loan them money at the drop of a hat. Their perspective on money is very, very different than the average working Joe. It's the same with alph…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:10 PM
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Many men lead in one way or another, the majority create social alliances and network, and many naturally draw people yet are not pursued by women. They're not alpha males either. Nevertheless, whatever behaviors you may describe as alpha have been adopted as a response (reaction) to women's sexual choice structure (action) - either by the individual or by the culture. You are putting women on a pedestal. What does RP have to say about that? Sex is not the end all, be all of existence, that's bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:15 AM
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What is alpha behavior Alphas lead others follow. They create social alliances, network, and people are naturally drawn to them. What drove the development of both PUA and RP philosophy Betas and omegas. Guys who cannot draw others to them. Guys who passively follow others and wonder why no one takes them seriously. They would be alone forever unless they went out and chased women down. Alphas, on the other hand, are pursued by both men and women. The difference is vast. You can play around with…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 04:26 AM
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Gender can be fluid. Gender can be rock solid and never changing. It can also be something that is at odds with what a person knows about themselves and what society is telling them they should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 01:21 AM
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Still bullshit. If you're claiming this is PUA and RP then neither is alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 01:20 AM
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Nature (bio truths) or Nurture (gender, social construct) which is it? The answer is that it's both. Your biology affects you hugely (obvi), and society has a lot to tell you about what men and women are "supposed" to be, which may sometimes conflict with your biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 12:03 AM
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More like you just exposed BP It's no secret that BP opposes Sexism and Misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 09:47 PM
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When two things are mutually exclusive These things are not. You are asking to make a hard choice between Nature vs Nurture. It's both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 09:30 PM
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so by exhibiting alpha-type behaviors you are reacting to women's actions. Uh, no. Alphas do what they want, they set their own course. You are mistaken if you believe that women do not pursue alpha men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 09:29 PM
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Pick one As I just explained, your problem is that you believe there is only one way. Expand your perspective a bit. The world is not black and white absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 07:26 PM
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I've actually asked many of you lot how trans people can be real while gender is a social construct. Because you're interesting a false dichotomy. It's not either/or, it's not zero sum. Sorry you can't figure out the complexity, but that's not BP's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:42 PM
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'The Blank Slate' theory of human nature is debunked and the book advocating that every man and woman starts out as a blank slate only to be molded by society is patently false. Stop with the strawman. Blue Pill opposes sexism and misogyny. Anything else you try and prescribe to "blue pill dogma" is you projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:38 PM
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ALL YOU DO is speak in vague rhetoric Your inability to understand does not make anything "vague".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:34 PM
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Red pill has trouble differentiating a DGAF attitude (healthy, confident, and with real boundaries) with criminality and sociopathic behavior. This is exactly the same reason they struggle with understanding why and how men get labelled as "creeps".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:41 PM
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I can feel your man crush from here. It's adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:37 PM
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You follow women around and react to everything they do. we respond to the tapestry that they weave. Everything you are saying is literally the antithesis of alpha. If you think red pill supports your stance, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:52 PM
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Look at all this triggered nerd rage. And not a single coherent thought or corroborated opinion to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:50 PM
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Here's what you're missing. Women act, men react. Women weave the societal constructs with their sexual choices and we respond to what they weave. We don't have the power to change the tapestry, because we are the sexually chosen. Rather we respond to the tapestry that they weave. So Fucking Beta
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:41 AM
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I came here prepared Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 08:39 PM
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Oh, I get it. I'm supposed to take your feels as facts. That's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 07:38 PM
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Cry it out, bro. No "hugs" below the belt tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 06:31 PM
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Cheat codes. RP guys believe that life is like a video game. Watch some YouTube videos = mastery. "Club girls hate him, find out his one unstoppable secret to getting laid!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 06:07 PM
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I agree with all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 06:04 PM
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Edge warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:54 PM
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You're adorable. Read back through other responses on this thread. Your OP is a shit show, as I and nearly every other respondent has pointed out. You are right about one thing tho, this thread will be remembered, but not for the reasons you believe. I think you need to worry a lot less about Munchausen and a lot more about Dunning Kruger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:48 PM
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And using that logic, men who lose custody are none of those things. I notice you don't count them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:28 PM
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Most underrated comment of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:25 PM
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Its obvious youre just mad that men make better single parents. <Citation needed>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:24 PM
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So you're sitting in a homogenous college population and seeing that it's homogenous. You cannot make the case that universities have populations that reflect the greater United States. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:23 PM
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Even if I think single father households are better than single mother households And that's what this thread is all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:16 PM
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Angry young men build very little. Leave that to the old and educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:16 PM
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Crime and disfunction are not as simple a you make them out to be. There are A LOT more variables involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 01:10 AM
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Single mothers are more of a problem because there are vastly more of them. That's the only reason? So by that logic, if there were more single fathers you would have a problem with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 01:08 AM
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And do you understand that this thread (and others) demonstrate that women are held 100% accountable for that by our society? I get that men have no legal right to force a woman to abort or not, and that's not the point I am making at all. Third time I've had to clarify: I am asking about single dads raising kids. Can they do it without fucking up society and their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 11:07 PM
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Can you envision a situation where a single parent situation was not the fault of the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:37 PM
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And as for Christians, you're not exactly wrong but you are indeed ignorant. Go educate yourself. I'm asking you to educate me since you seem to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:53 PM
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Personally I am not really interested in the "Sovereign Citizen" take on single-dadhood, but others probably are, so thanks for explaining. What I was asking (again) is whether single dads raising kids alone fuck them up. It's gospel in red pill circles that single moms create beta males at best and omegas or criminals at worst. I'm asking if single dads do anything so terrible to their daughters or sons. So far I cannot find a single bad thing that fathers do under any circumstances, ever. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:44 PM
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Sounds like someone is afraid to engage. You said I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to Christianity. Okay, go for it. Show me where I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:15 PM
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<citation needed>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:14 PM
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Sounds like you don't really have any idea what you're talking about then. I've been there and actually done the math. It's not pretty for single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:13 PM
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Please, I'm begging for your insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:09 PM
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They are too different versions of the same social situation, but I feel like red pill men will see them quite differently. The hamstering in this thread bears that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:08 PM
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Do you even know where the cutoff is? I've done the math when trying to decide how much my ex should work when we were married. It's around $45k+ per year to break even with full time day care where I was living. If you're trying to argue that all single dads make more than that...?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:47 PM
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Oh honey. I've read the Bible 5 separate times, minored in religious studies in my undergrad and belonged to several different Christian congregations for nearly all my adult life until realizing about 7 years ago that I cannot do dogma no matter how hard I tried. If you would like to educate me on what Christians truly believe and how that's different than what I've said, be my guest. The floor is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:44 PM
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It's not a linear scale. The standards are DIFFERENT between someone you have fun sexy times with and someone you take to meet your grandma and raise kids with. Apples and oranges. And hopefully those two paths never cross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:33 PM
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C'mon, you've read a lot of threads here. Single moms are the main reason why guys end up on red pill and are destroying Western Civilization. Not an exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:30 PM
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If I'm making a mistake, you need to clarify. But if you think Christians don't believe in a culture that minimizes sex and sexuality you are dead wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:27 PM
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Third, none of them are welfare queens. No single dads receive state or federal aid? Really? Where did you come up with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:25 PM
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Great. But you're not answering the question. Are single parent households run by men inherently bad, or as bad as those run by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:24 PM
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I missed the part where I asked about "unilateral decisions" being a prerequisite for single fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:58 PM
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Oh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:55 PM
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What reason dowe have to think that a culture obsessed with overt sex and valuing it over everything is the only culture possible? Go to any Christian Church and this is what you hear. Hell, open any page of the Bible and you'll see this It's not a dis, this is what Christians believe. So to answer your question, just look to any fundamentalist religious culture and you have your answer. Conservative values. Sexuality is tightly regulated and controlled, reserved only for marriage and procreatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:53 PM
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I grew up with two parents and had to learn all this myself the hard way as well. This illusion that your dad would take you out and teach you how to slay pussy is weird and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:41 PM
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Are you a fundamentalist Christian? You sure sound like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:40 PM
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Give people values other than relationships and sex. Okay... I'll play along. Any idea what this celibate utopia looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:45 AM
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If you are about because "we have too many people" then yes, that is murderous. We are not China, the west values personal freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:23 AM
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Killing people off so that it's easier for you to get laid? Or are you trying to make the case for killing people off so that it's, uh... more peaceful! Yeah that's it. Either way it's monstrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:17 AM
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Objections to eugenics? Yes, quite a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:00 AM
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Eugenics. Always eugenics with you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 12:57 AM
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Angry young men are not a new thing. How will you "fix" this supposed sexual inequality? Sexual socialism?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 12:41 AM
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Fascinating. So your entire OP was, according to you, quite literally pointless. Also, /r/iamversmart would like a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 12:18 AM
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Your statement is an assertion. a positive statement or declaration, often without support or reason
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 07:36 PM
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So, how do you rule out the possibility that a lot, perhaps even a majority, of these survey respondents who claim rape are suffering from Muchausen syndrome? This is not an assertion on your part? Do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 07:06 PM
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Don't even start. You are making one claim and now walking it back when pressed. So which is it? Is Munchausen Syndrome responsible for a majority of rape accusations or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 06:49 PM
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Society wants people to get along. Red pill is antagonistic and zero sum in its outlook. Of course they will clash. In regards to the thread, OP is asking if the chicken or the egg came first. Opinions vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 05:52 PM
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Angry young men have been the bane of civilization since the dawn of time. Nothing new here except that OP doesn't know much history. Additionally, tinder is not representative of a population or even a significant percentage of the SMP. Stop acting like tinder = everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 04:59 PM
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So, how do you rule out the possibility that a lot, perhaps even a majority, of these survey respondents who claim rape are suffering from Muchausen syndrome? You are seeing that a lot, perhaps even a majority are suffering from a rare disorder. Then you ask anyone who disagrees to prove the negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 04:57 PM
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Red pill is all about over-compensating to the Nth degree. Can't get laid? Make your life about having casual sex and spinning plates! A woman was a bitch to you that one time? Learn to hate all those cunts! And Feminism too!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:31 PM
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You have it backwards. You are asserting that the majority of rape cases are based upon a very rare, difficult to define mental disorder. You corroborate that with ONE article. Then you ask anyone who disagrees to prove you wrong, to prove a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:31 PM
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There are a lot of things you can do to up your tinder game, and the bots can show you how that works. Millennial dating profiles generally are some odd attempt to look super unique while being part of the herd. Yes, it's marketing. there's quite a few RP men in larger cities the US now, who pride themselves on being the opposite, or will include something about how tinder is nothing but an ego boost for women "I can't win at this game so obviously the game is rigged/unfair/bullshit/stupid/benea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:27 PM
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That so many people (men and women) don't actually understand what the movement for Equality is all about. Gender relations are not a zero sum relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:57 PM
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I'll grant you that the term "fascist" is used as perjorative bludgeon but the left, but the right takes the Cake for bastardizing the term. "Liberal fascist"? C'mon...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:25 PM
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No, it is not. Your misunderstanding of how stats and logic work is the problem here. Asking your opponents to prove a negative has never been acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 05:29 PM
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That's not how it works. You are taking ONE piece of data and creating an entire theory based on that and then along everyone to prove a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 05:23 PM
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Absence of evidence is not evidence. Learn 2 stats before continuing this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:26 PM
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If you'll read the thread I started you'll see that opinions DO vary on the definition of fascism. I personally agree with the definition you posted, but political scientists in academia struggle with a complete definition of the movement, it's a moving target. But that's not my point. All the groups we are taking about here travel in the same circles, and have more in common than they disagree on. Catholics and Protestants have killed each other over small differences, but they're still both Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:25 PM
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I'd need to hear your definition of Fascism first. Opinions vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:59 AM
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Splitting hairs. These folks travel in the same circles and hang out with the same people. Their views diverge exactly where...?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 05:36 PM
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I never realized you were a mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 05:34 PM
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What IS different is women's unleashed sexuality, which has EVERYTHING to do with female entitlement. Wow did you miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:27 PM
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The rich always pump up racism/sexism/dangerous immigrants to keep the sheep fighting amongst themselves. Pissed off about your life? Grab your pitchfork and torch... and go attack another poor person. The only thing the rich really fear? The French Revolution, where the idle rich lost their heads. Meanwhile red pill continues to misplace their frustrations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:27 PM
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I asked this same question over a year ago. You're exactly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:21 PM
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Your level of concern is very sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:15 PM
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Being promiscuous as a guy is a lifestyle. It takes a lot of time even if you're moving quickly from date 1 to sex. You're constantly on your phone texting, on tinder, on OKCupid, etc. If you have several FWB that you are dating simultaneously, that's all you end up doing. A lot of guys would rather do other things than commit so much of their free time to chasing pussy. OP is mostly correct, but really needs to break up that wall of text with some proper punctuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 02:51 AM
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So you really have nothing other than an entirely subjective "I know it when I see it" understanding of the term? Using your janky definition, "be attractive" is sexual strategy for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 01:21 AM
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Alphas don't have a "reality distortion field" they just don't get bothered by petty bullshit. Someone mocks them, why don't they get bent out of shape? Because they are actually confident and not insecure. With real confidence in themselves, their abilities, etc, they don't have to think about frame or any other bullshit like that, they are just themselves. A trained pilot walks into the cockpit of a plane, he knows exactly what is happening, where his skills lie, and what to do when the shit h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:52 AM
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Where did I ask about harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:42 AM
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Red pill has very few average men. The few that stop by and improve their game usually leave. The ones that stay have a real chip on their shoulder against women and enjoy the sexism and misogyny, which is the only consistent thing about red pill. We cannot even get them to agree that their sub is about self improvement at all. The other ones that stay (besides the angry sexists) are the defeatist incels, who OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:41 AM
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Women who fuck men for money are called prostitutes or golddiggers. Not all women are prostitutes or golddiggers, although they obviously exist. Not even the majority of women fit those two categories. Men are basically a meal ticket. What is this, feudal Europe? If you find yourself dating a golddigger or a prostitute, dump her immediately. This isn't hard to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:26 AM
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or because women are arbitrarily defining who's creepy and who's not based on their appreciation... When someone upsets a person, makes them feel ill at ease, threatened, or otherwise uncomfortable, they often get labelled as creepy. It's an emotion response, like fear. You are looking for an objective definition where none exists. And the fact that you cannot understand what creepy is, is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:18 AM
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If Men truly understood the relationship between women and rape.....we'd stop giving a fuck immediately. You're speaking as tho you have secret knowledge. Share with us your enlightenment story. Otherwise people might think you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:01 AM
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I didn't ask that. Are you the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:59 PM
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It's asking you the exact same question you asked me. How is that derailing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:41 PM
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I ask you to define attractive and you say "yes?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:40 PM
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If that's true, them they should stop bugging me about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:40 PM
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a false rape claim Emphasis on the singular.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:36 PM
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I'm proving that there is a substantial reason to hold reasonable doubt about a claim of rape No, you are not doing that. One piece of anecdotal data is not proving anything to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:33 PM
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So my question is: what if the disparity is to some appreciable extent down to Munchausen? How common is this disorder? Not very. Not sure why you have seized on this as some sort of smoking gun. "Majority of women who claim RAPE actually have Munchausen Syndrome!" That's ridiculous speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:30 PM
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So, how do you rule out the possibility that a lot, perhaps even a majority, of these survey respondents who claim rape are suffering from Muchausen syndrome? You need to learn stats. You found one piece of anecdotal data's and then leap to "prove that my one piece of data is not actually the majority!" That's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:18 PM
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Sexual discrimination is factual in the workplace. What advice would you give to women who feel like they are experiencing discrimination? Or are you salty about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:05 PM
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What is "attractive"? Keeping yourself clean and professional at work? Make up is a part of that equation as are things like heels and fitted skirts or tops. How about just general pride in your appearance? Wearing cute outfits, etc? "Attractive" is non-specific as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:04 PM
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A major problem I am witnessing with many modern relationships, is that women seem to want their man to cease flirting with other women, while it is okay for her to post suggestively on social media. This is bullshit. If a guy (or woman) signs up for a one-sided relationship like this you are fucking yourself in the long run. Don't sign on to shitty relationships. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:50 PM
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Shall I send you pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:46 PM
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I have no issues with any of that. I have traded PM's with guys from this forum who identify as on the spectrum and we've had some great conversations. What I am not cool with is seeing that frustration bubble over into "WOMEN ARE CUNTS, FEMINISM IS A LEFTIST CONSPIRACY TO COCK BLOCK ME, ARGLE BARGLE..."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:46 PM
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I'll give you the answer I get from red pill when pressed about sexual discrimination in the workplace; "THEN SUE OR JUST OPEN YOUR OWN BUSINESS". Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:42 PM
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What the hell do you want to hear?! Less complaining and more personal responsibility. It's what red pill theoretically preaches...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:57 PM
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I think outlier is too strong a word. Incels are outliers. Red pill is just low SMV dudes. How many guys like that in a given population? Hard to say exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:56 PM
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Which is to say, conceal them utterly while all others are around. No, it's not that at all. If guys are constantly being accused of being creepy, awkward, or socially unacceptable it is because they are expressing their desires in an inappropriate way. Just like everything else in life, social skills take knowledge and practice. If a guy has a low skill set and low base knowledge, of course he's going to suck at social stuff and come across as weird and creepy. He can either fix his skill gap o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:54 PM
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Idk why people project "manipulation/power" onto guys wanting to fuck young girls Well... RP has this whole thing about male dominance and female submission... plus the whole "Wall" concept and hatred for single mothers... it's a red pill thing for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:03 PM
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No one cares about your sexuality unless you share it inappropriately. It's not about men's sexuality, it's about their lack of social skills and inability to communicate perfectly healthy desires in a socially acceptable way. For instance, there are a TON of guys in red pill right now (and probably 90+% of the incel community) who cannot understand or discern the boundaries around what is understood to be "creepy" behavior by society at large. This is a major social failing on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:58 PM
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All the average men who have normal relationships with women. He's including incels as "average" FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:50 PM
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Oh really? Care to attempt to justify your statement, or should we just take your word for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:58 PM
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I don't think anyone in the manosphere is arguing that women-as-a-class collectively oppress men-as-a-class. You must be new to the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:57 PM
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Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:56 PM
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This is a tired argument that is thousands of years old and has been used as a basis for discrimination all throughout history. Next you'll be telling us about how the Curse of Ham justifies your racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:55 PM
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redpill, mgtow, incel, or any creepy anti-woman movement These are NOT "average" guys, they are well below average SMV. That's the problem, and it's their problem, not women's and not society's.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:39 PM
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So... what are you proposing? Constrain women's sexuality by law?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:37 PM
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Dude, you don't think that sending young men off in the wrong direction with shitty red pill advice is a serious problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:32 PM
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Because I was not always high SMV and fully know what it's like to go through years and years of relationship frustration. I'm also divorced so I understand what ending a marriage feels like. Changing course from all of that is really hard but it can be done. Raising your SMV makes everything exponentially easier. It's frustrating to see guys suffer and putting their energy into the wrong avenues (blaming women/society) instead of getting their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:43 PM
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Ancestral women This is a Discovery Channel special. Women's "sexual strategy" is radically different today. Casual sex, career opportunities, BIRTH CONTROL, you name it. If you are trying to use this study and clean something out of it too apply to modern women you are comparing apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:39 PM
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Goddamn, what a fucking shit show.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 05:38 AM
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Don't compare yourself to other people. It's the most unhealthy thing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 03:21 AM
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Dude. Anyone can go to red pill and find sexist and misogynist shit. Be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 03:15 AM
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But eventually single motherhood will be reduced to an abnormality and children will be raised in a two parent home. So your answer to all our social problems is to return to the 1950's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 08:26 PM
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Really well said. Just like most everything else we discuss here, the answers are a lot more complex than a mere surface level investigation can handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 08:24 PM
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So basically positive qualities would win out on the dating market You do realize that around 70% of food stamps and such goes to children, right? You want to remove the help for those kids so that women get more desperate and forced to marry "providers" just to get a meal or two every day? This seems like a legit kind of society to you? We moved part this several decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:20 PM
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Read it. Curious if you've read any of the responses to his comment? Until you do, maybe you should STFU.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:02 PM
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This comment, WTF. "If we destroy the social safety net, would I get laid more?" Top quality stuff there, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:45 PM
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Careful what you wish for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:43 PM
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Second that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:42 PM
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True. "Git gud"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:10 PM
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Does TRP say that? Does anyone say that, ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:09 PM
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Sorry. It's not Feminism to blame because no one wants to touch your penis. No one wants to touch your penis because you're not attractive. If a guy doesn't understand that women want to fuck attractive guys... that's just natural selection at work. This is the equivalent of a Neanderthal yelling "No one TOLD me to run from the sabertooth tiger!" Everyone just assumes you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:08 PM
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Wait. You need a disclaimer to understand that no one is guaranteed a girlfriend/wife/FWB? I think we've found the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:50 PM
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Your entire first premise is that men lie uss totally photoshopped/staged pictures that look a nothing like them and showt up to dates and your female friends who then reject them That happens A LOT. Men represent themselves all the time. In fact, there was this one guy on this same thread who actually encouraged men to lie on tinder! Can you believe it?! "Don't do that" isn't a solution. You just said by your own logic they got rejected. Put your money where your mouth is and provide a better. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:47 PM
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There is a concerted efforts by feminists, Blues, and people like you, to keep what you perceive as "low value men" in certain social arenas and to keep them out of certain other social arenas, to confine them to certain physical locations, to condition them to accept table scraps and leftovers, and to be docile, compliant drones. This sounds like an organized conspiracy to me. There is a concerted efforts by Efforts in concert by the list of baddies that I named (but no Templars?). to keep what…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:35 PM
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You know who I am. My pics have been up for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:29 PM
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Sooner or later we all have to stop pretending how little we care about what other people think or say or do. Agreed, but that's not the point I was making. RP seem to have this idea in their heads that other people are very concerned whether they (the RP guys) are getting laid or not. They're conspiratorial at worst, crab pot theory at best. The truth is NO ONE ACTUALLY CARES. Seriously. It's like being at work and the IT guy runs over, "I had SEX last night! With a real woman!" Who wants to he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:27 PM
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There is no other advice. Raise your SMV and RMV or die alone. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:22 PM
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This is what the grown up world is like. It's always been like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:20 PM
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So that's not actually an issue, even tho you're acting like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:40 PM
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Yes, you did. Quote or GTFO. Provide a better one. I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:11 PM
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In other words, RP is bad because it is effective (at least in the short term) - no one would mind if it didn't work No, RP is hated because it's sexist and misogynist. No one outside of RP cares if you guys are getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:09 PM
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You say no and then go on to agree with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:39 PM
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That's standard first world stuff. This is the equivalent of "be happy with your dinner, starving kids in China, blah, blah, blah..." Or that black folks should be thankful they aren't beaten and lynched anymore. "We shared our air conditioned bathrooms, what else do ya want?!" It in no way addresses racial bias or racial animus that is also a very real part of living as a POC in a first world nation. You very much want to deny that part of their experience by hyping up "clean water".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:40 AM
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talking abouttalkingtalkingtalkingtalking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:50 AM
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Man, you're really digging deep for some shit to complain about, scraping the bottom of the barrel. I just cannot really muster the energy to take your arguments seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:49 AM
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Actual equality (to you) send to have a lot to do with taking away someone else's rights. Or basically putting uppity women back in their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:47 AM
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Dating down? Or dating realistically? There seem to be more than a few red pill guys who suffer from an inability to correctly rate their own SMV and as a result end up punching above their weight class.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:26 AM
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Aren't American Blacks among the most privileged groups on earth by any objective standard? You're going to need to explain that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:23 AM
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So... you wish you were a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:22 AM
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Men had to sign away their bodily autonomy in order to vote. This is not a strong argument. Many people have died in the fight to assure voting rights access. Try making the argument to them that selective service is some kind of real "burden" to bear in order to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:19 AM
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These are people with indoor plumbing who are under no real threat of starvation. This is really a silly fallacy that I see way too often. "There's no one poor in America! They're all fat and have microwaves!" It's negating someone else's life experience, and lowering the bar so far that it disappears. And that's done on purpose. Just like racists will argue that "it's not really racist" until there are actually crosses burned in yards or people are getting lynched. And even then... who can real…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:14 AM
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For as long as they keep acting sexist and misogynistic in the present. This shit isn't tough to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:07 AM
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your ilk It is to laugh. This is how I know you're not serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:06 AM
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So you're admitting that the Templars are trying to destroy the white race? I fucking knew it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:25 AM
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You do have a lot in common with women and minorities, for sure. What you don't have in common with them is the biases they face every day, the biases you acknowledge exist in our society. There fact that you don't ever have to deal with those biases is termed "Privilege". That's all it is, nothing more, nothing less. There have always been people who latch on to any excuse available to cover for their personal failings (that's why I started this thread) and there are those who exaggerate any ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:24 AM
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Thank you. Someone understands.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:34 AM
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I want to agree with you, but let's not forget that we're talking about guys who claim that Disney movies lied to them and that's the reason no one will touch their penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:15 AM
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But capitalism does a decent job of sorting based on merit. Capitalism does some of that, sure. But one of its major failings is that money and wealth tend to be sticky and congregate, clogging up an otherwise efficient system. We saw this problem when companies began sitting on massive piles of cash after the crash of 2008, it prolonged the recession. Likewise, when the rich hoard wealth it has the same effect on our society, exacerbating the problems of the poor. It's not an even playing field…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:08 AM
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Weak men are unattractive. No one disputes that. But weak men come from every walk of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:54 AM
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Let me guess. Your a libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:52 AM
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I wouldn't use the word "Patriarchal" because it comes with too much baggage It's accurate, no matter how you feel about it. Old white men created a system where everyone who was not a wealthy old white man had to bend over and take it in the ass. That's historical fact. It was a Patriarchy. The vestiges of those years are still with us and exert more influence than a lot of people ever want to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:46 AM
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As soon as you agree that leftover biases from our Patriarchical past continue to exist and exert negative influences on our society every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:41 AM
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Single moms make guys ugly. Got it. No wait, I don't. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:39 AM
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the rules for dating has changed with the emergence of birth control and women becoming more independent and other factors. the result is that a larger swathe of men are now losing out and the dating strategies of the yesteryear doesn't perform as well as people have imagined. couple that with internet and how information is out in the open for all to see, we're getting more visibility of those who are successful and those who are not Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:38 AM
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but the idea there is some insurmountable barrier for minorities and women keeping them from succeeding due to inherent white male racism/sexism is absurd. It is absurd. Hyperbole always is If you fail in the West, it's likely you are stupid and/or unlucky, not because of the bias of "the powers that be". I say this exact thing to red pill and it's REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:35 AM
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And with that, hundreds of years of discrimination are excused.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:33 AM
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Right. And our country continues to emulate the founding fathers and other movements from history, but we've totally gotten rid of all the racism and sexism that those guys handed down to us. Totes gotten rid of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:56 AM
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Ever heard of that conspiracy where women could not vote at one point in history? Or that black men were once counted as 3/5 of a person? Crazy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:16 AM
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Feminists don't know or care if they cause some men to become unattractive Say what? Feminists are causing men to become unattractive? How does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:07 AM
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We shall see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:49 AM
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This is fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:48 AM
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Queer washed bs right there. I always know I'm debating a scholar when they start their rebuttal with a slur. You need to read what I wrote. I was talking about poor impulse control. Samurai are masters of self discipline. Try again, and try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:46 AM
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There is a MUCH higher percentage of sexism and misogyny on red pill than in other areas. I mean, this is what red pill is known for, and there's a reason for that. "Treat women as you would treat a man" is hardly original or life altering advice, plus I see most of red pill not following this advice. They treat women noticeably worse than they treat men. Or does red pill advise you to treat men like teenagers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:44 PM
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That implies we have full control of our desires? You can't possibly believe that. No, that's not what I'm implying. What I mean is that in your fantasy people look, act, and react however you choose. In real life those actors may be very different than in the fantasy. For instance a good friend of mine had a fantasy of having sex surrounded by a bunch of guys watching and masturbating. It was her top fantasy for years, but when she acted it out at a swingers club it was incredibly creepy and sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:39 PM
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See, THAT is really good advice. That's equality, and that is how I roll day to day. Personal boundaries are really important. But I'm not new to these forums or red pill in general. There IS sexism in red pill, and there IS misogyny too. Red pill guys have admitted to it and the theory itself puts men in charge, women as second class. That's not really in dispute.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 09:44 PM
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Then there must be some reason everyone seems to care about the sex lives of red pill men. Care to share your theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 09:38 PM
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It's not quite that simple. A fantasy in your head is 100% controlled by you. All the people, all the reactions. Having those expectations match up with how people react in real life is very rare. People don't often act and react exactly how we wish they would. However... when you DO find people who not only accept, but also can share in your fantasy and make it real, it generally forms a really powerful bond. The closest emotional relationships I have had with women were with those who bonded o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 09:26 PM
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So you're trying to balance the scales by being extra shitty to women? In the idea of pursuing "fairness"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 08:23 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 07:49 PM
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This will probably shock you, but opinions vary considerably on that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 07:29 PM
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Your results mirror my own. There's literally no downside to free online dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:43 PM
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for struggling guys time is better spent working on themselves and getting out of the mindset where sex is that important. Getting to a place where someone would wanna spend time with you. Please repeat this more. Very well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:40 PM
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This. FetLife is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:37 PM
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I misread that. My bad. I see what you're saying now. But on the "extreme" side, an open marriage /= cuckold. Threesomes and group sex /= cuckold. I know you guys like to use cuck as an insult, but it doesn't apply to what you're talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:25 PM
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Show me where I said it's easy. I said it was efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:53 PM
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Never said it was easy, said it was efficient. Learn to read. You can potentially connect with thousands of women online. How many can you physically approach at once? Red pill says "play the numbers game" and approach tons of women because one is bound to say yes (gambler's fallacy), but using online tools is a bad idea? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:52 PM
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Two whole cases? You're talking anecdotal evidence and making a pronouncement about an entire group? Think about that for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:48 PM
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You tell me. Boxers and martial art stuff are very violent, but do not suffer from poor impulse control. So, one could easily make the argument that watching guys lose their shit is the biggest part of the problem, the violence is secondary. Poor impulse control is no fun for anyone. Society looks down on people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:46 PM
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And on the extreme blue side, you get literal cuckold relationships. Blues don't do monogamy? That's new.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:42 PM
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Nice dodge.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:41 PM
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Children lash out physically because they have poor impulse control and no coping skills for their emotions. When we witness grown men lashing out physically we associate it with child-like, immature behavior, the very opposite of stoicism and masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 04:14 PM
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The dates happen in real life, I don't know if you got that part. You just go online to meet people. I bring my banjo with me to the real life date I set up online. Get it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:43 PM
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I think you Blues don't like it one bit that these Red aren't staying in the preordained little places and boxes the Blues have for them. You honestly believe that some segment of the population ("you bikes") are conspiring and actively working together to create a permanent underclass of low SMV men who will never get laid? Why in the world would anyone do that? I mean, first of all it's a lot of effort and coordination, but most importantly, what's the ROI for this project?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:42 PM
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I love it when you're bossy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:22 PM
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Male selfishness of this kind ignores women explicitly and consciously in order to avoid the negative effects and affects of female nature. MGTOW. No one cares. Have fun! See you!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:48 PM
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Oh yes you do care very much that red pillers are fucking women. You're going to need to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:45 PM
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This thread is a trip. Not much trust on the red pill side. Lot of need for control, and an awful lot of fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:42 AM
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Does it ever feel weird having having an executioner's access hanging over your marriage like that? That at any moment the dead man's switch could go off and all the nukes trigger. I mean, fuck, that's a lot of anxiety on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:40 AM
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For women, the answer is often yes. How in the world did you arrive at this conclusion? Men fuck around all the time. Who do think these evil women in your fantasy are cheating with? MEN! You make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:33 AM
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Yep. Most of the evil shit terpers ascribe to women is stuff everyone does that is part of being human, not gender based.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:30 AM
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Where's the effort in online dating? Seriously? You can put other a profile in 10 minutes, do most of the work setting up dates on your phone while you're talking a shit or lagging on the couch watching a movie. Then go out when you actually have a date. Why the fuck would I ever waste my time running around like an asshole trying to pick up women in some expensive club I don't want to be at in the first place? Online dating is the most efficient way to meet new women hands down. And there's no …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:26 AM
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It's a longing for that ancient Greek kind of man love. Bro hugs for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:19 AM
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Have you ever acted out a fantasy, had one come to life? Reddit is littered with people and couples asking for help because a threesome went wrong or sex with the best friend was not at all like the fantasy. Red Pill has a serious problem understanding the difference between fantasy and reality. Fantasy is what happens when a guy "pedestalizes" a girl. He builds up an image in his mind about who she is, runs little scenarios in his mind, and then falls in love with the fantasy. But she is a real…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:13 AM
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Seems to me there must be something deeper to it or else why are we talking about all this? You are not the center of the universe, we really do not care who you are fucking. It's the misogyny and the sexism. There's no grand conspiracy here. I dislike extreme racists but I don't spend my days discussing it with them, trying to convince to be more accepting Would you say the same thing to MRA guys? I mean, they are activists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:55 AM
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Your conspiracy stuff is hilarious. Please read the definition of "gaslighting" and use the term correctly. She was just lying and being a general bitch. If she was actually gaslighting she would be trying to convince him that his memories of something were wrong our that what he's seeing with his own eyes is not happening. In short, that he's losing his mind and cannot trust himself or his senses any more. That's not what you were describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:49 AM
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I don't care if they support each other. One is correct and the other is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:09 AM
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Women - and some men - do not want groups of men to congregate and share ideas. There is no grand conspiracy. You're not living in the matrix. she was gaslighting him Lying is not gaslighting. She was lying to him and a shitty girlfriend. They exist. Guys cheat too. He just needs to dump her and move on. There are certainly hateful individuals but the ideology as a whole is effective, and I think that is why it scares people. You really believe that women are worried about... men getting togethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:08 AM
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I've said it a million times. People care about the bullshit sexism and misogyny. We don't care who red pill guys fuck or don't fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:35 AM
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You are RP without the Misogyny and Sexism. Yes. The lack of and being against RP for, your Blue Pill side, is Misogyny and Sexism. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:34 AM
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TRP takes a step away from that and says "fuck that, there aren't any worthy women left - get what you want from women, but don't marry, and don't allow yourself be vulnerable when dealing with them". Fine. No one cares if red pill guys act like that. Seriously, why would anyone give two shits?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:11 AM
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That's not why people hate red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:09 AM
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Your tune is blatant because it's all that makes you blue. What is this gibberish supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:07 AM
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People don't care if you get laid a lot. Source: I got laid a lot. No one cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 12:53 AM
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Yeah, you didn't understand what I was saying. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 12:52 AM
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Broken heart. Multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 12:22 AM
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Anyone sensible rejects that stuff I'm pulling for more sensible people. Some days it seems like the idiot are winning tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 12:22 AM
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Terrible for women. Women love it when you infantilize them and tell them what is good or bad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 12:21 AM
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Because she's a woman, not a thing. And you're a man, not a fan at COMICON begging for an autograph. When you pedestalize someone you are making shit up about them and then falling in love with that idealized version. This is what people do to celebrities. They have no idea who the person really is but they think they do, and they fall in love with the image they make up. That idealized image is not real. Just get to know her. The real her, not your little "she's so perfect and adorable" version…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 12:09 AM
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It's so silly it pretty much opposes itself. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Hang around the gamer crowd much and you'll see lots of love for red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:49 PM
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Why are you sleeping shaming all of a sudden?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:48 PM
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Hence, you can't put forth any constructive theory other than, be better, don't be mean. Hence, your reading comprehension is pretty bad if that's all you got from what I said. If you need help understanding just say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:36 PM
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Are you saying I should encourage chastity? Grandpa? Is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:33 PM
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Lying that you're 6'0 because you're aware women actively descriminate against men below 6 foot when you're actually 5'10 isn't the same thing as photoshopping your pictures to the N'th degree so it doesn't even look like you. Never said it was the same. Stop with arguing about shit I never said. I only stated that lying is productive on Tinder which your own argument validated as these men got dates and only got rejected after being selected for. Lying is productive to go out on an awkward date…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:32 PM
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Shouting back at Red Pillers on the internet is not "work to oppose" Red Pill. Once again demonstrating that red pill has no idea how social mechanisms work. Silence is tacit agreement and encourages acceptance of an idea by the un-initiated. Speaking out against an idea or a movement demonstrates that there is indeed another side to the story. If this were not the case MRA would have no reason to exist, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:28 PM
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It's it possible for you to stay on topic or are you always going to get emotional? No one asked you how you feel about me, keep it to yourself. I explained why people hate TRP, that was it. Did not realize that was going to trigger you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:22 PM
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Underrated comment of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:56 PM
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Are you sure male selfishness is nothing new? Wut. You cannot be serious with this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:55 PM
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You could have just said YUP since your reply confirms my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:50 PM
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TRP allows men to get girls without the messy commitment or emotional hangups of traditional relationships. That's pretty selfish. This has nothing at all to do with why people hate TRP. No one really gives a shit what MGTOW or groups of low SMV guys are doing on the internet. And no, you're not out there slaying pussy in droves, be serious. And even if you were getting laid left and right, people still would not give a shit. Yay for you, have fun. You get negative push back for the Sexism and M…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:37 PM
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All my girlfriend's complain about lame tinder dates where the guy who showed up is nothing like the guy in the profile. Boy, bye. If this is your idea of success, have fun never getting second dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:29 PM
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It's the poor boys game. Ever actually boxed? It's a highly technical thing. Gender has nothing to do with learning technique or supervising a sparring session. The smaller women can't catch pads on big guys because of the weight differential, but that's why they split is up into partners about our same size.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:43 PM
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This is why men should stick to BOXING the oldest and manliest sport in the world. Grappling is just as old. Also my boxing coaches are both men and women. Former pros and national collegiate champions. Since I just box recreationally, both the men and the women have a lot to teach me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:29 PM
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Then she gets on all fours, face down and ass up and says "PUNISH ME!" What does this have to do with being an asshole? That's just fun relationship sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:23 PM
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Because much of red pill and other former Nice GuysTM believe that standing up for yourself, having boundaries, and occasionally telling people to fuck off makes you an asshole. That having a real DGAF attitude makes you an asshole. Confidence and DGAF are both attractive aspects of masculinity and neither has anything to do with being an asshole. And finally, any guy that can get laid when a RP guy cannot is automatically called an asshole, and we already know how RP feels about women's abiliti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:08 PM
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Have you ever been to a martial arts class? Most instructors divide the class by abilities, gender, and weight so that people get paired up evenly. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. Before lashing out in impotent rage, do a bit of research first. And secondly, I was unaware that martial arts is a male only domain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:53 PM
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It doesn't always die, but it does change. When it works the comfort level and trust rise to take both love and sex into new territory. When it does not work a couple realizes that all they had was infatuation, and that it's not strong enough to last through the stress of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 06:20 PM
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It always ends up getting personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 05:12 PM
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Blue. Complaining about the dating world is like complain about the weather. It just is what it is. Trying to change either one is vastly more complicated than people realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 04:50 PM
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I concur with shrooms. Never tried it myself, but I had a friend who explored, and while both of us were completely sober he explained some of the stuff he saw/felt/thought about when on his trip. SECOND HAND mushroom trips opened my mind. And that opening of the mind is super important to avoid getting into deep ruts in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 04:36 PM
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Okay. So you're dealing with a lot of stuff here. I guess... thanks for sharing your diary with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 04:31 PM
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Because red pill is literal to a fault. And social skills? Not so much. They understand biology, they do not understand "reading a room" or intuition as it applies to talking to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 04:21 PM
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Because free will is a wholly religious concept Wut
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 04:20 PM
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Your photos are super critical. A lot of guys fail because they past shitty car selfies and have no idea why they don't get matches. IF you have a good bunch of photos and do not lie (5'9" /= 6'2") tinder is a good measure of your SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 03:47 PM
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There's nothing inherently gender specific about pointing out that you are making errors in your grand pronouncements. It's just someone telling you that you're wrong. I'm not afraid to preach and be challenged. Good for you. There's nothing particularly masculine about being full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:31 PM
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Yep. You figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:12 PM
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But you still never say what is right. I'm no TV preacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:08 PM
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They're looking for examples of failure so far as I can see, so that they can excuse their not trying. That's true, it's how they roll. Along with searching for pity Interesting to see TBP in there Why would you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:33 PM
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Literally some of my posts have started off with axioms dude. That's really neat. Is there some reason I should believe your axioms are correct? Did you receive them on stone tablets or were those axioms shouted at you from a burning bush? All you can say is No, you're wrong. You cannot say, This is right. No. I say "You are wrong, and here is why".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:31 PM
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Incels, in other words. We've all seen the guy on those cringe threads pushing back against the OP, supporting the cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:08 PM
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None of my OP or other submissions have any theory? "Theory" based upon what? Deductive reasoning draws it's strength from sound premises. You have zero corroboration for any of your "theory" that isn't just numbers or ideas pulled out of this air. Arguing from false premises is always fallacious, even if you call it "theory". I was literally hamstering out loud. I know, that's what I said. You act like you have more experience with women than many, yet you're afraid to say anything about them o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:06 PM
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You're willfully lying to yourself if you imagine that you wrote "theory". If you'd care to apply context to the quote I posted, it's me arguing that the 60/40 "numbers" you used to describe women's choices in relationships we're pulled directly out of your ass. You replied that you were using "intuition" (feelings) and that I should too. Where's the deductive logic in any of that? And then you start this thread about how women argue... after doing the exact same thing yourself. Comedy gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:19 PM
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Who gets mocked the most in Cringe subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:14 PM
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Well, your full of shit because you just wrote this whole debating with me. Theory, stories. What else is there. Not exactly going to find reliable data about if she made a good choice or not lol. Hamstering all over the place. This begs the question, are you actually a woman or do you just debate like one (according to your definition of how women debate).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:50 PM
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Not exactly going to find reliable data about if she made a good choice or not lol. That's my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:36 PM
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re you saying it didn't make sense for people rallying for 'Free Speech' for Charlie Hebdo then? I'm saying it's not a First Amendment issue. I explained why already. Try and keep up. If a lot of private individuals succeeded to violently shut down BLM events, and the police couldn't stop it, would you say that 'Free Assembly' wasn't violated because it wasn't the government doing the censoring? NO. I bet people would rally behind BLM under its supporters' FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT. And they would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:26 PM
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But it does have an implication for free speech. Just like the Charlie Hebdo incident has an implication for free speech even though it was technically murder. You are confusing the First Amendment with a moral stance of allowing others to speak even when you disagree with them. That's all well and good to believe that, but screaming "Free Speech!" and "First Amendment!" is wrong. It's not a Constitutional issue unless Congress starts to get involved writing laws and such. That's not what happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:37 AM
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Threats of violence to prevent him from speaking would violate his right to speak Threats of violence get you arrested, period. The fact that it's regarding a speech is not the point. But let's look closer at what you said. his right to speak Which right is that? Is there a law written somewhere giving you a right to speak? How does that work? Can you explain the legal basis for that? As far as I can tell the First Amendment is all about keeping the government from making laws that interfere wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:17 AM
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Shouting at a speaker is fine. Occasionally disrupting a speaker is fine. But what happened at Berkeley posed a safety threat to the speaker. No shit. That's why I said the same thing. In fact, it obliges the government actors (UC Berkeley and the police are considered arms of the government) to protect speakers against the hecklers. I am not arguing against this. So far you have not refuted anything I have actually said. But let's turn to the First Amendment itself, shall we? Congress shall mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:34 AM
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Your making a mistake guys make all time. Just because she likes to fuck and is down to fuck with lots of guys does not mean she is down to fuck every single guy on the planet. To put it into quantitative terms, she likes to fuck a lot but her cut off is SMV 6 if he's funny, fun and confident. That's the point being made here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:14 AM
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Well at any rate the chicks looking for sex aren't going to end up desperate enough to go for guys who are like that Can you blame them? Girls like that don't get much attention either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:42 AM
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They absolutely should be covered. As should paternity leave and lots of other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:39 AM
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Those are common fetishes I have moved through the fetish scene, I can assure you that they're not. Also, sport fucking /= fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:35 AM
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When you think of all the different type of women you would like to fun for sport and sexy fun times, what do you think about? 'ugly', 'fat', or 'socially awkward' Didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:31 AM
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Most people No, it's for people like you who came to this post with the preconceived belief that there is no such thing as "accidental" pregnancies and that women are always put to get you. This belongs in red pill, not here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:27 AM
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Incels are more of the "drop a deuce in the dining room" kind of friend. And then find a way to blame you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:19 AM
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I know plenty of women who think like that, or did for a while when they were exploring their sexuality. They wanted to have sex with different kinds of guys. Tall, short, jocks, nerds, different colors and different backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:17 AM
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Women claim these as accidents when they clearly aren't. Clearly. And you are talking about "engaging in good faith"? You just opened this thread with a bait and switch. What a bunch of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:15 AM
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My God... have you never been to a party or a social event ever in your life? Who the fuck talks like this about hooking up for fun and orgasms??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:11 AM
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You don't go to a friend's house and shit on the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:09 AM
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Or... wait for it... you could have just used the correct term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:07 AM
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According to red pill it is not common knowledge. At all. No one ever told them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:05 AM
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shit posting is what you do when you have been on a site so long you are bored Pretty sure incels qualify to for that description. Also pretty sure that they swarmed this sub and co-opted most of the new threads until they were shown the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:04 AM
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He's attractive. They're drunk. She wants to fuck. Done. Source: I have lots of slutty friends too, from college years and beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:01 AM
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What you're describing is not what normal people think when they hear the term "accidental pregnancy". Your title is misleading. If you want to talk about the red pill term "Sperm Jacking" just say so. Or turn on Jerry Springer. Or go read red pill threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:59 AM
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Plot twist, some college girls just like having casual sex because it's fun and feels really good. I know, crazy right?!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:54 AM
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We're not having an argument. There's nothing here to argue about. You're bullshiting a bunch of unfounded numbers and wanting me to take them as some kind of real statement. They're not. You're engaging in make believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:49 AM
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A better question is what input you are using to come up with your "guesses".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:47 AM
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No, traditional masculinity is its own thing. It does require a woman at all. I have no idea where red pill created this idea that men cannot be complete without a woman around. Fundamentally untrue and very unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:45 AM
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Why would you say that? I would argue that most people shit post in places they hate, and on people they hate. That's why the Ban Hammer is so important to have any decent on Reddit at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:43 AM
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guessguessguessguess
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:47 AM
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"Incel scholar" as in a self admitted incel who is also a scholar. It was a compliment to him. lol. Got it. I thought you referring to someone on reddit who specializes in studying incels "academically", which sounded really weird. It's an open discussion so you're free to provide examples or evidence of your counter assertion. The examples I have are the interactions I have had here on this board with visiting incels. They take turns begging for engagement and then pissing on my head when I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:46 AM
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Cat calls are not what guys (or women) do to guys. If a guy gets on the street harassment it's more like this - "Hey faggot!" "Hey [insert racial epithet of choice]!" The goal is to provoke a face to face so that the aggressor can force the other guy to back down or physically assault him if the confrontation escalates. Schoolyard bullying shit. And no, I've never gotten that from women. Had a couple instances of "You're hot!" with giggles from teenage girls a couple of times, but there was no a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:40 AM
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an incel scholar Wut. The overall theme is that there's a significant number of incels subscribers who enjoy or participate in subreddits dedicated to focusing on other people's social failures. Not just any social failures, but the type of failures that come from low social inhibitions You're going to need more data to back this up. Your correlation is based upon what you believe these guys are posting, so show us what they're talking about. You know what they're doing in these subreddits? Shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:35 AM
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Because I don't buy some rando 60/40 ("Why 60/40? Because it's an easy round number! lol") you now create a strawman about me that I ignore all numbers. Pretty low quality debate around these parts lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:28 AM
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There's a difference between a protest and physically preventing someone to speak. No one is physically preventing anyone from speaking. Stop making shit up. If a speaker at an event gets shouted at, that it's not an impingement on their First Amendment rights, that's free speech versus free speech. The First Amendment is about how the government interacts with citizens regarding their ability to speak publicly. It has nothing to say on whether we must be forced to listen to Milo at Berkeley. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 11:32 PM
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This "culture" is a political fabrication, and now a social one, and it does massive disservice to actual victims of rape to expand the definition of what "rape" means, because it cheapens what victims of this horrible crime suffer. It seems you don't understand what rape culture is. It's not some smoking gun clue you would find working LE. It's part of a "culture", and if you're not able to pick up on cultural and social cues you'll miss it. Given the general lack of cultural awareness (outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:59 PM
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Now you're just playing an authoritarian SJW caricature. No, he's giving examples of why those assholes get protested and shouted down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:46 PM
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Oh look, one more guy on the internet who think that Equality = Identical. That makes 4629656 that I have come across this week so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:43 PM
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I had no idea you were the spokesperson for FeminismTM.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:40 PM
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If you're stuck in the "serves you right, shoulda chosen me"-mindset you're still trapped - either because you're still passive and still depend on women choosing you basically by chance (which is the case if you think that you should have been picked in a situation where you were still under the "be yourself"-spell), or you're still resentful enough to let your feelings dictate by that feeling. Neither is productive. I've been on PPD for a long time now. I've never heard this from red pill guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:28 PM
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Monogamous relationships center around the ideas of ownership This is a smelly leftover from a Feudal era several hundred years ago. "Owning" people is not a thing anymore. Therefore the natural progression of a feminist society is a shift towards open relationships Therefore shitty logical leaps. Monogamy is a choice freely entered into by consenting adults. It can be negotiated by those same adults if they so desire, after all it's their relationship. If people want to be monogamous, fine. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:52 PM
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Always hilarious to see the most student critics of Feminism are nearly always the ones who know the least about it. The strawberry they create to wrestle with are pretty impressive tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:41 PM
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But you chose not to and just like any decision you make, you're responsible for your choices, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:35 PM
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/r/numbersipullrightoutofmyass
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:15 PM
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Yeah, but if you had harsher laws and punishments, you wouldn't consider your actions more? History knows the answer to this as well as current research. Google is your friend. Do harsher punishments really being the crime rate down? How much do they actually affect behaviors in modern society? Check for us and see what you find. As far as your anecdotal goes, it really proves nothing other than you love to judge people. Is every divorce a "failure" on the part of the woman in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:14 PM
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I can't really comment on this since I was not there and the particulars of the case therefore escape me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:09 PM
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Society told you that it was your duty to fuck some crazy skank?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:08 PM
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Only if she wore the burkha. Can't be too careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:58 PM
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Maybe they'd think more before acting? Ever had something turn out different than anticipated? LOL, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:58 PM
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/r/thathappened You need to up your game when it comes to picking partners, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:56 PM
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Traditional masculinity refers to it as Duty, but I am pretty certain red pill has no idea what that concept even means since I don't think I have ever once seen it mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:50 PM
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Give me one reason why that's not right Personal freedom. Americans, for instance, believe in that concept above almost all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:49 PM
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The "wrong guy" argument stems back to angry betas being picked over. All the red pill rage directed at single moms has a root cause in the fact that "SHE COULD HAVE HAD MEEEEEE!" But instead she fucked the captain of the football team, got alpha widowed, and is now a single mom. So the red pill answer? Fuck that bitch, she's getting what she deserved, she should have fucked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:42 PM
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"Anyone who's not retarded." You think that answers something. That's a high school shit poster's answer, and the irony is apparently way too deep for you to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:29 PM
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You should have to apply for a pregnancy licence and go through a credit and mental health check before being allowed to make another fucking human that will likely use tax dollars to feed, educate, and possibly imprison. So, China or North Korea is your ideal state. Basically anywhere that cracks down hard on basic individual freedoms. Except the freedoms that you enjoy, I am sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:25 PM
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People who understand the financial burden that children have? People who aren't retarded? This doesn't answer the question. I don't think you are able to answer it. So a form of social democracy? I don't know how you define that term, and I'm pretty sure you're just using it as some form of pejorative. I said "regulated free market with progressive taxation" and that's what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:23 PM
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What do you mean responsibility of men? Well, often men are encouraged to help raise the child they fathered instead of fleeing in the night like a coward. This is a fairly traditional outlook consistent with most definitions of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:20 PM
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If you go through life thinking that someone is out to steal your sperm you have bigger problems than "sperm jacking". /r/conspiracy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:18 PM
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No, I complained specifically about tax dollars supporting people who made bad decisions. Bad decisions according to who? You? The church down the street? The alt right? The leaders of BLM? You're not an emporer. You are talking about policy changes involving redistributing wealth thus moving closer towards democratic socialism. I'm talking about well regulated free markets and progressive taxes, much like we had in post WW2 America that brought on the baby boom and our golden era. But again, we…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:20 PM
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Not what I'm saying. You know how many married couples get abortions? Or how many unplanned pregnancies happen to married couples? Do you realize how much unplanned pregnancies affect poverty, marriage or no? Why do married pregnancies get a pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:16 PM
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Totes agree. I have read the same shit. Also saw a comparison between child support and lynching today. Awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:44 PM
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During that time we also saw the rise of socialist and communist states that were utter failures as economic states. I'm not talking about socialism. But how relevant is that generally to the specific arguments about single motherhood? You brought it up when you complained about having tax dollars support people outside your tribe or your preferred list of recipients.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:43 PM
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My justification was that making people uninvolved with other people's problems pay for some of the cost of the risks those people take isn't a good solution to having people suffer. This is how society works. Again, look to history, particularly society around the time of the Industrial Revolution. We tried it your way and it led to squalor, high mortality rates, and a stratified, nepotistic, and caste based society. Civilization has advanced beyond those years and pulling people up out of abje…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:19 PM
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Fine by me. Women as well for that matter. And married couples are no exception. Meanwhile, back in reality...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:11 PM
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So you admit you are putting more emphasis on shaming women because of your perception that society shames men more? But our society only shames the male side of the irresponsible genders. You must be new to the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:10 PM
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You act as tho abortion is something Americans agree on. Do know how many MEN oppose abortion? Your argument is absurd. "Just abort everything!" You really think life and societal questions are this simplistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:23 PM
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We could allow financial abortion for men in the same window as we allow female physical abortion. What, exactly, is a financial abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:21 PM
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I've seen blue or blue leaning people argue that the biggest benefit of female liberation is letting females stop ugly males from reproducing. This bullshit is your justification for the idea to remove the social safety net in the hopes that people die?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:20 PM
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I don't think these men are responsible to begin with, so seeking responsibility afterwards is ridiculous. The larger issue is that you apply this standard to men and another standard to women. According to you men can't be held responsible for much of anything when it comes to pregnancy, but women... you hold them responsible for all choices and outcomes Mate selection. Decision to bring the baby to term. Failure to offer the man enough worth to get him to commit. All the negative social conseq…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:19 PM
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"You guys"? You just suggested letting people die would be good for the population and in almost the same breath you act butt hurt when I say "you guys". Fuck out of here with that. Your moral compass (if you even have one) needs some serious adjusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:07 PM
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So does your Chad buddy use condoms? Or is that solely the woman's responsibility? Your buddy does not believe personal responsibility applies to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:05 PM
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Can't get pregnant without a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:03 PM
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TIL that men living up to their responsibilities as parents is slavery. And you guys wonder why there is a "masculinity crisis" in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:02 PM
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It is a lazy and obvious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:01 PM
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Because women are individuals and therefore have individual responses? Crazy talk, I know. Edit: Wait, you're asking why some women were rude to you when you hit on them? Again, it comes down to women being individuals. Some people are shitty and rude, and that includes women. Additionally, are you polite to everyone all the time? People are rude and shitty, you are too. Why you think this has some bearing on all women everywhere makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:40 PM
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There's always an excuse for the men, isn't there?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:37 PM
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I'm still unclear what the "big guns" are. Government enforced abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:37 PM
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If it's crushing enough the hope is that all the kids of these single mothers will die before reaching reproductive age and continuing the cycle. It always comes down to eugenics with you guys. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:35 PM
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There's no "tricking" involved. Marriage and a life spent together with one person is the highest commitment level. FWB is pretty low on the commitment scale. FWB accidentally gets pregnant, no trickery involved. Does not believe in abortion, keeps the pregnancy. Guy does not want to marry a FWB. Forcing a mother to kill her unborn child is not something the state does, we are much closer to forced births thanks to the reactionary right. Everything progresses from there. "Alpha widows" my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:30 PM
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Explain to me how enforcing crushing poverty accomplishes this. Maybe bring back debtor's prison as well? Take a look back through history, we have tried your ideas for thousands of years. People dying in the streets was the results. Seriously, it's been done before. The resulting society was dirty, brutish, and highly fatal for its citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:26 PM
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But the men who fuck these women and run off, they are just following their biological imperatives and should not be held responsible for anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:23 PM
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These or, ignorant men! Ignorance of a law has never been an excuse. Where is the personal responsibility for men in all this discussion? There's none. This is embarrassing and about the least masculine discussion I can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:22 PM
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We need big giant guns in the room because women can't possibly bear the responsibility of their actions. We need the government to negotiate on women's behalf. Can women do it alone? No, the government needs to do it for them. Can men do it alone? Yes. Government death panels for single moms?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:07 PM
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Single moms are not all "alphas widows". That's just flat out wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:06 PM
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And the father...?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:05 PM
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Child support (state & parent) outside marriage should be abolished. How would that fix anything? You just want to punish people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:51 PM
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I am still amazed how much shit you guys doing at single mothers. OP is basically saying "dumb bitches keep picking the wrong guy" is the root cause of the problem. There's a lot more to relationship dynamics than that. This idea that women are responsible for all of society's ills is one of the most toxic and most hamstered parts of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:48 PM
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There's a difference tho. If you're rich and low attractiveness, she still doesn't want to fuck you, she's just putting up with you because $$$.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:39 PM
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STFU method. Deference/Submission to a man you're committed to Lots of self-care about your appearance and wellbeing Being comfortable with vulnerability. So many women get scared about being in a noncontrolling position with men, so they get hardened. This turns off more men than a lil belly or short hair. 1950's Stepford Wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:36 PM
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but getting someone I find attractive is the only thing to alleviate said depression. Careful, this is the recipe for one-itis and getting stuck in a relationship with a bad person. You sound like you're doing the right things, take comfort in that. Having a girlfriend is not going to change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:30 PM
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I have never ever had a cool car. Had a minivan for a bunch of years while my kids were in diapers. Physique is still the easiest way to up your SMV. Then you car doesn't matter. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:24 PM
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No. It's a question of preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:41 PM
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I'm saying if the man didn't make as much, she wouldn't love him Your ignorance of how real life relationships actually work is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:22 PM
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Love is very conditional No shit. And what does that have to do with your statement that women have no reason to get into a relationship other than $$$?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:16 PM
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/yawn You're boring. Go play with your RP friends, they're more your speed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:14 PM
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You are claiming that women are incapable of love. Zero basis for that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:46 PM
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Wanted to add after reading some of the comments: What she means is that if you are in control (giving someone head) and bring them to orgasm, you take away the filter they apply in day to day interactions. Having someone else pull an orgasm from you can really make you lose your mind, and that loss of control shows a side of you that you don't show to people at any other time. So watching someone lose control, yes, you will see some of their authentic self. No filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:43 PM
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the only way to get to know someone truly is through deep conversations and anal sex. People lie in deep conversations all the time, including self delusion. Anal orgasms ain't no lie, however. You see the real person, no filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:40 PM
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Women do not desire to be in a relstationship for the sake of it, they do it for the status/money (usually). Most women are golddiggers? Really? If money didn't matter, women would have no need or desire to get in a relationship. This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:34 PM
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insulting incels If this is all you are able to glean from my posts than you really are dumb. And if you cannot recognize that Bernie Madoff is not a liberal/winger thing but a capitalist criminal independent of politics then you are full retard. Never go full retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:31 PM
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An additional thing is that it's ok to generalize against men - "men are pigs" etc but you can't say such a thing about women. You must be new to the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:10 PM
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I don't see your problem, the sub is already very good at warning guys away from the red flags you pointed out. The problem is how the fuck are these guys this oblivious in the first place? This is literal COMMON sense, as all the posters have rightly pointed out. The question is, why is there so many guys on AskTRP who have so little ability to see the most glaring red flags there are?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:07 PM
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Or Roosh as your daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:04 PM
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Are they unusually bad at recognizing red flags and standing up for themselves? This is about 90% of the reason guys end up on red pill. Consider - Lots of RP guys are open about being on the spectrum. RP is literal to a fault. RP answer to why they never knew until adulthood that women liked to fuck, date, and marry sexy, muscular guys; "well no one told me!" The BP response to so many of the RP horror stories; "why the fuck would you ever date or marry someone like that?" The blunt truth is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:02 PM
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out were intelligent /r/iamverysmart
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:54 PM
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Yet I read bodybuilding forums, as I've posted elsewhere on this thread, and they all say it made little or no difference to their dating lives. There's the obvious argument to be made that they are not necessarily doing it right or lying about their "gainz" (not an impossibility on the internet). Here's the truth of the matter. Having the fastest car in the race does not mean you're going to win. Hell, you could crash, or just suck at driving. But if you have the slowest car in the race you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:53 PM
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Anecdotal evidence all over PPD and RP disagree with this. So many guys (myself included) have had their dating lives radically transformed by the addition of lean muscle. There's nothing that can compare to a nice physique. Your car, your bank account, your jokes, none of those are going to draw stares like a serious physique. Besides that, it's not something you can buy our be given by your parents, it takes work to build it, and that says something about you personally. There is no easier way…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:09 PM
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Second that, on both counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:03 PM
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Yes, it helps a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:02 PM
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Maybe you're saying women are physically optimised for erotism and men for violence? Not at all what I am saying. That idea is utterly ridiculous. What I AM saying is that both sex and life and death situations are intense enough to tear through all the bullshit lies we tell each other and ourselves to expose the true core of who we really are. Words cannot ever do that. People talk a lot. But when the shit hits the fan their real selves come out, no disguising those reactions. That is what your…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:55 PM
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So did Bernie Madoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:49 PM
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No. Whoever has the most status is the gatekeeper of the relationship. High status males come and go as they please and commit only when they feel like it, typically with many women who are actively hoping they are chosen. These women have already committed to him unless he actively becomes monogamous and declines relationships with the others. High status women do this as well. No idea why this idea is even controversial. High SMV people (men and women) have multiple suitors pursuing them for l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:05 PM
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I counter that she is underestimating the power of language I think you're overestimating the power of language. A lot of people aren't good with words, and there are a TON of concepts that language cannot even frame, let alone convey. Your ex is correct. The main reason a show like Walking Dead it's so popular is that it's narrative is built around breaking the characters down completely so that the authentic person is all that's left. Same concept as a soldier saying you never really know a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:56 PM
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PPD has allowed me to talk and debate with outspoken Sexists and Misogynists for the first time, since I avoid guys like this IRL. Allowing them to speak for themselves and to read what they say has made me even more positive that the sexism and misogyny of red pill, the right wing, and the alt right is why America cannot have nice things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:37 PM
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Wealth is not an indicator of merit, talent, or hard work. There are plenty of talented and hard working people who will never be wealthy or will end up failing at creating wealth. There are even more idle rich who who have no talent besides falling out of a golden vagina. Stop associating wealth as some kind of worthiness measurement. Capitalism would only function as a measurement of ability if the playing field were truly level. It's not. Capitalism is always a rigged game, and I say this as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:32 PM
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Pedantic +1
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 06:53 PM
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You said this - Careful with the over generalizations Then you said this - its widely known that women would rather prefer to be in a relationship instead of being single. Not sure why you think it's okay for you generalize but not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 04:04 PM
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So very contrarian. You disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:39 AM
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Embrace their youth and the freedom of modern society. Find something you're passionate about and do that. Try to avoid socially media and other people's expectations of what you should be doing (like this thread). This is universal advice, women included.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:37 PM
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Ever heard of the Ku Klux Klan? I bet you'd like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:26 PM
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Wow, nailed it in one. Great post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:17 PM
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You're going to need to convince us that this is any different than the HUMAN condition right now. All people spend their lives trying to convince others they are happy when they are not (see: Facebook). You have taken that human condition and pulled single women out. Then you slapped a stereotype onto it and associated general unhappiness with being single ("Oh honey, you just need to find a good man"). You start from a flawed premise and go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:06 PM
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+1 Edge
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:12 AM
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She's been living with me for a year. I married her a few weeks ago. I don't think I love her but then I do not think that love is real. Wut.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:06 AM
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So I guess sex trafficking isn't a thing because you saw a video on YouTube? WTF with this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:01 AM
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Love you. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 01:11 AM
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Halo Effect? Is that level dependent or can you buy from a merchant?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 09:20 PM
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That's all it takes to be an alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:54 PM
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So conflicted. I treated my mother badly. What to do now?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:48 AM
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Most underrated post of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:47 AM
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Do you really so utterly lack the balls as to just admit to your own feelings and maybe take a good look as to why you feel the way you? Absolutely not. Incels on Reddit are hateful navel gazing pity bots who vomit their frustration and irrational anger on everyone they meet. I know exactly how I feel about the incels who come to this sub and shit all over everything. Fuck off with your pity party and your bullshit martyrdom, there's a reason your bullshit was banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:37 AM
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That the denial of sex to men is misandry. That men are entitled to sex in some form, even if they have to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:22 AM
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Are this Saturday's posts sponsored by /r/incel? WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:20 AM
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That's quite a step back from the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:19 AM
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You make baseless extrapolations about people's character and social skills all the time from what they post online. LMAO HILARIOUS. I know, I am pretty fucking funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:44 AM
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I admit I'm not the best Rand apologist since I absolutely detest it, but it is a workable sure and pretty basic. I feel that her axiom creation really blocked her thought from turning into a real philosophy. She is obviously searching for her root cause (like Liebniz's Monads or something similar), but she never got close to Liebniz's elegance in theory. She should have stuck to ethics and morals, her metaphysics is a joke. But whatever. It seems according to her moral code that if one is not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:42 AM
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Your numbers are janky and the extrapolations you make from them are hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:04 AM
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Are you trying to make the case that men are entitled to sex? That seems to be what you are saying here. That without free and easy access to sex is - an implicit act of hatred towards that sex's needs, a denial of what is needed for mental, physical, and emotional health, and to give the sex full control over their body. This is a pretty extreme viewpoint and you're stating it like it's commonly held or mainstream. It's not, and you need to explain. Please make it a bit more interesting than "b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:02 AM
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Okay, since it's your party, sounds like we are dealing with [Objectivism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_(Ayn_Rand). She said that Reason is the highest good and that brute force (murder) is essentially sub-human. The use or threat of force neutralizes the practical effect of an individual's reason Therefore murder is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:54 PM
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You're asking several things at once. can you prove that objectively causing hurt is immoral? In order to do that it would need to be within an established framework, to break a law. You have provided no moral framework, so there are no laws to violate. Are you talking about Ayn Rand's Objectivist morality or Christian morality? Different responses based upon which framework you are residing in when you ask the question. The answer I have showed that murder is harmful to the individual. I cannot…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:28 PM
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Can you prove that murder is objectively wrong? I will take a shot. Helping and loving people brings feeling of happiness and self worth to people. Divisive conflict and hurting people brings the opposite. Murder is the natural extension of the latter, making it objectively unhealthy for the individual and detrimental to long term happiness even tho it may be instrumental in achieving short term materialistic goals. There is a reason we associate murdering with the mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:15 PM
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The unwashed hordes wielding katanas in fingerless gloves and their gelatinous chins were thwarted by the +5 ban hammers of the Mods and driven back behind the walls of /r/incel where they dwell still. Watching. Waiting. Stinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:41 PM
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I'm so sorry, thought I was addressing my PPD Boyfriend, not you. Sex is my hobby, and for others who share the same interests we all get along great, supporting each other and having fun together. This, however, still applies to your extremely judgmental comment. I explored a lot with my sexuality, and reddit's GW community was a big part of that exploration. If you don't approve, I could give a shit. To each their own. On another note, who exactly do you think you are to ride such a high horse…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:35 PM
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Take a step back. Look at what you like to do in MMOs. Then pick one of those things, and start doing it in real life. Except for GTA, of course. In all seriousness tho, this is what sent back to school to get my MBA.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:29 PM
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I have often thought that RP in particular attempts to suss out and impose rules on the messiness of actual reality (see: "everything is game"), so any given player can sort of flowchart his way into getting laid, because all women are basically just NPCs, in that model. Bingo. I've been thinking the exact same thing for a while now, struggling how to word it properly, you said it perfectly. You should expand on this in a post, or several posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:24 PM
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I think video game addiction is about withdrawing from social life while social media addiction is about searching for far too much validation from what is in many ways a superficial medium. Good points. However, online game communities are a thing and they are legion. A social activity devoid of actual human interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:20 PM
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Everything is an addiction. Eating is an addiction. Drinking. Breathing. Wut
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:18 PM
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There wasn't any good discussion. It was incels switching between begging for attention and pissing on the heads of "normies".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:05 PM
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they are a bunch of trolls Yes they are. if their ideas are wrong how is more exposure bad? You must be new to the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 09:58 PM
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Because this is not /r/incel We, as a group, decided we have had enough of incels whining about about not getting laid and posting the same fucking thread 17 times a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 09:57 PM
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In the sex positive community I am very welcomed. Sex is my hobby, and for others who share the same interests we all get along great, supporting each other and having fun together. In your incel community you probably feel the same about yourself. You obviously have huge hang ups about sex, probably have never given another person an orgasm (and probably never will), so your criticism of something you know nothing about makes about as much sense as me criticizing your build in Dark Souls. You'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 09:51 PM
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Living by yourself outside of society is usually fatal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 09:42 PM
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We get it, you don't think that murdering female babies is a big deal compared to things like make circumcisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 06:38 PM
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Attaching your life to other people's expectations sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 05:51 PM
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It's members say they are immoral all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 05:39 PM
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We aren't talking about the people who want to be in combat, we are talking about those who do not. Last I checked we had a voluntary military. If it isn't an issue, then why not get women to sign up too? Or abolish it altogether. If it's still a part of our society, then it is an issue. You go through life worrying about getting drafted? Didn't think so. It's not an issue. Where did I say that I didn't have a problem with it? I do, but it's not above other issues. Infanticide > Draft When it co…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 05:34 PM
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Of course my dick is on the internet. I'm a sex positive guy who has a lot of partners. It's something I explored and it's fun. It would be like you going on Dark Souls message board and posting screenshots.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 03:36 PM
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You seriously never heard women mention that the ripped, good looking guy was hot? You thought that was a secret? I don't believe you. No one is that obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 03:25 PM
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You've never hung out with women then. They often talk about who they find attractive, just like guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 03:24 PM
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I support women in combat roles if they want to be. It's red pill guys who do not, take it up with them. The draft is not an issue. Conscription is not something the modern man needs to be concerned with. Female basis are killed every day around the world because they're female. You don't seem to have a problem with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 03:12 PM
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It's called a draft A draft is not murder. Are you even understanding what infanticide is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 05:33 AM
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Men are killed for being not women in war? Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 04:12 AM
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Really good write up. And I say this as someone who loves video games. Both offer the illusion of "winning" at life while actually doing nothing of the sort. It can make it feel incredibly bitter when someone realizes that their magnificence at an online game doesn't get them out of their moms basement or make women attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:40 AM
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Says the guy who just wrote a huge post complaining that no one will touch his penis because Dark Souls is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:27 AM
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Take a look, sweetie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 11:37 PM
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Can you think of a situation where males are culled from the population because they're are male and not female? Straight up murdered. Yeah, me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 11:36 PM
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The OP was lvl 9000 whine fest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 11:34 PM
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I've been to Russia, I've seen it first hand. It's hard to imagine until you witness it yourself. They're all dead. It was unbelievable. But that female culling is still happening, 365 days a year and shows no signs of stopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:04 PM
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This is exactly how Chad gets panties moist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:28 PM
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Women are killed in war.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:16 PM
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Angry ramblings of delusional incels aren't facts. Awesome. And the rest of the post is spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:27 PM
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Heck even if you were distant from media when you were young, you should have realized very quickly in grade school that looks matter. Younger girls were usually honest about this, so if you've been socializing you'd have realized that looks mattered, even to younger girls. This. A million times. Were red pillers completely oblivious to girls they went to school with saying "he's hot"? Because as a guy I know I heard it and was able to figure out from that very quickly who the girls I went to sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:17 PM
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Sledgehammers. Show off your gainz.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:04 PM
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Red Pill men commonly state that women are nothing more than fuck holes. THAT is objectification. She is no longer a person to them, or even human. Choosing not to hang out with someone because they are not very interesting or just talk about Dark Souls all the time is not at all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:48 PM
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Thank you. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:46 PM
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And presses move slowly too. Up the suffering level. Why have I never thought of this before?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:44 PM
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You're spot on. You should put a post together about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:28 PM
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Abortions and infanticide. Viable births and healthy female babies killed because they're not male. Men do not face anything like this culling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:27 PM
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The irony... and you can't even see it. So awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:26 PM
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But that's objectifying. No, that is not objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:23 PM
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I'm an introvert so I know exactly what you are saying. However, you need to stop with the whining. If you don't want to go out, DON'T. If you want to meet people, have A GF and a larger social circle, figure it the fuck out. Introverts have done this since the dawn of time. But stop with the whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:22 PM
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This past should honestly be stickied. It's so much of exactly what we blue pill folks say over and over. And I don't respect Chad. Chad may be getting laid left and right, but he'll never see the beauty of math, for example. He will never understand the amazing feeling of coming up with your own solution to a mathematical problem that isn't easy to solve.. Or, he will never know the feeling of invading a noob in Dark Souls and punishing the shit out of him.. Or defeating an entire team of enemy…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:19 PM
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This needs to be the first thing new guys read in Red Pill, it would save so much headache for EVERYONE.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 05:49 PM
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We have to be funny and exciting and charming and "confident" lest we are told we're "boring" and "creepy" and even "misogynistic". If you don't want to socially engage, don't. But stop with this "woe is me" bullshit. There are plenty of people who are naturally introverted (hello!) and prefer before alone or in small groups. If you're one of those people, build yourself a life that makes you comfortable and happy. If you feel awkward and weird going to parties or other social events, DON'T FUCK…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 05:48 PM
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You don't get sex selective abortions murdering female babies in China and other countries. That's A LOT of dead women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 05:39 PM
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Alphas > Players
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 11:47 PM
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Nailed it. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 08:35 PM
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He got in shape and learned to stand up for himself. I don't think TRP can claim a patent on those two pieces of self improvement advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 08:22 PM
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And it seems thats how women like it, cause its easier to manipulate men that way. So it's the reason we cannot model male attraction is because we're all trying to confuse and manipulate women? Or maybe just because human beings in general and attraction itself are very complicated topics?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 07:29 PM
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You really do not understand the mechanics of female attraction if you believe this Econ 101 modelling you are trying to do means anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:49 PM
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But men should not drop their standards, or (God forbid) raise their SMV? Why not? 100% of women are competing for 2.5% of the male population Oh hello there Hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 04:58 PM
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Letting them articulate their abhorrent views is the best cure I think. Yes, allow them to speak and they can't help themselves. They want to tell everyone exactly how much they hate X, Y, and Z. And that Hitler actually did a lot of things right. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 04:56 PM
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I don't agree with murderous purges. OR But we're fucking stupid for not tying voluntary sterility to more generous government benefits. Pick one. They are not as far apart as you seem to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 03:14 AM
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I'm not against genocide, And what makes you so certain you will always be on the winning side of genocide?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 03:13 AM
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Uh... you're going to need to point me to the parts of red pill that preach altruism. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 03:04 AM
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Can I understand the Nazi view? Sure. Do I like it personally? No. Which parts do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:52 AM
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I'm somehow guessing you hold leftist views without believing that everyone who disagrees with you should be murdered. Read through OP's responses to me, starting with the title of this thread and then revise your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:51 AM
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So you're a Nazi sympathizer then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:45 AM
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And actual shit said by actual planned parenthood genocidal maniacs is conspiracy. <citation needed> And if you're going to link Alex Jones don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:45 AM
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"You're a commie!" Is that the best you can do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:27 AM
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And yet you called me Hitler. Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:26 AM
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Natural Meritocracy is not eugenics it's self relgulating. "Meritocracy" is socially acceptable eugenics. It's rationale for doing exactly what you are talking about, pointing out those who are better, best,... and not worthy. Eugenics is more like kill the negro planned parenthood liberal planning /r/conspiracy welcomes you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:22 AM
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"Shit Tests" are an explainer for the folks who don't realize that they are being observed, analyzed, and judged every second of their lives by everyone they come into contact with, and doing the same to everyone they meet as well. To imagine that there is some super special secret test beyond that is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:18 AM
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TRP ends up promoting emotional manipulation and reducing women to a machine that will dispense sex if you use the correct button combo. Awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:59 AM
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You're correct. I'm offended by that logic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:58 AM
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Fascism predates Feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:57 AM
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TRP and the manosphere is ALL ABOUT men being selfish. That's a big part of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:55 AM
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Nailed it. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:53 AM
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Yes I look at what they can do and achieve. Either for themselves, or society, or humanity, or whatever really. Doing is the key, though. This is eugenics. And was the rationale behind many murderous "purges" throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:50 AM
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Did I ever say otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:15 AM
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Yes, it does explain both you and I quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 12:59 AM
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What about the fact that men choose bad women? I don't believe this is technically possible according to RP. AWALT "She is not 'yours', it's only 'your turn'" If you follow RP reasoning all women are horrible, will cheat on you eventually, and only use you for your $$$. So just spin plates and remember that women are only good for the vagina they provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 12:53 AM
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Well, right here. Those groups can't be helped much. Does an 18-30 year old able bodied able minded man have more or less potential than the disabled, old, and retarded? According to you, many groups are worth less than other groups based on potential to benefit society. That is eugenics in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 12:49 AM
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Does an 18-30 year old able bodied able minded man have more or less potential than the disabled, old, and retarded? It's that how you grade the worth of an individual person?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 12:42 AM
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I said the word, you described the process as a possibile outcome. I am not the Nazi here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 12:38 AM
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Those three groups can't really improve much. There isn't much potential being lost, room to grow, more that can be contributed to society and humanity. Cold blooded. "Fuck everyone but my particular interest group."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:47 PM
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There are many invisible populations. The mentally ill, the aged, the disabled, just to name a few. Hope much time do you spend thinking and worrying about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:08 PM
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There has always been losers in the relationship department, both men and women. For quite a while throughout history the Church and political leaders decided that marriage was the foundation of society and manipulated the SMP to make it so that unmarried/divorced people faced major social stigmas and economic hardships. The system was designed so that men were working outside the home and women were working inside the home. Only one of those positions was paid with coin of the realm, however. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 09:24 PM
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How much of a man is a man with no rage or anger coursing through him? That's a pretty fucked up definition of "manhood". Where in the world does that idea stem from? Rage as a defining characteristic of masculinity? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 09:12 PM
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Q4RP - Why is it always about eugenics with you guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 08:15 PM
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I'm against meaningless correlations that do not support my preconceived biases. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 08:13 PM
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Take up your sexism and gender "bio-troofs" with the scientists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 08:11 PM
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I've never disagreed with that analysis. However, any time I start a thread here saying that red pill is sexist or misogynistic... REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. /triggered You are one of the few red pill guys I know who openly admits what you and red pill are all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 08:09 PM
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Six of one, half dozen of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 08:05 PM
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You lured me in with promises of misogyny then tried to help me improve my life! You need to inverse that comment and you would be correct. Red Pill does not advertise it's misogyny. In fact many times they go to great lengths to distance themselves from the hate and sexism. What they DO advertise is "we will teach you how to get laid" and shit like that. What they stay for is the misogyny. And you know this!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 08:04 PM
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So "acting like men" coincides with right wing viewpoints? You just confirmed the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:57 PM
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Red Pill uses "teach you how to get laid" to bring guys in, but the overarching thing that keeps them all together is the anti-women attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:56 PM
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So... TRP is against Logic, data, and analysis? This is new.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:50 PM
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Were you the guy with dick pics all over the internet? Best stick to what you're good at. Thanks, always nice to meet a fan. You're talking about Covert Contracts, and they are thoroughly discussed on how to shed them. That's still a major topic here on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:44 PM
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<citation needed>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:42 PM
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Guys don't come to red pill because they are getting laid. And you're not a Chad Factory, as an EC you should know that more than anyone. Don't try to sell me that bullshit. You got it the wrong way around. You are not entitled to my time nor my attention, unless you provide something in return. A blowjob is a good start though. If you don't want to, that is completely fine and you owe me nothing. I'll just turn around and take that next bitch. So macho! You just described getting out of the fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:41 PM
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There is a great restaurant but everyone that eats there is a KKK member. Someone points out that it's just a kkk meet up when you remove the food and drinks.... guess what a restaurant is about food and drinks. No. Based on your own analogy this is a KKK Meetup where they also eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:30 PM
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Are you fucking serious? Have you ever read any threads on red pill? You have to work to be this obtuse. Ever heard anyone say it's a wife's duty to fuck her husband whenever he wants? That's just for starters. The entire "Friend Zone" phenomena is entitlement, as if you should deserve a blow job just because you're "nice" to her. The red pill rage against getting rejected by women when she goes and fucks someone else is entitlement personified. Rage against Chad and the women who ride the "cock…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:07 PM
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The issue it's you don't understand the word Entitlement. The fact of having a right to something. Women are not saying they are entitled to sex, they just get sex by the fact of being women. Same with high SMV alphas. No one is saying those groups are entitled to sex, that makes no sense. The men who get accused of acting entitled are the low SMV guys who complain about not having a relationship or access to casual sex whenever they want it, as if this is something they have a right to but are …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:03 PM
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They already fucked you and are pulling away? Not a good review.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 01:17 AM
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Because they don't want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 01:12 AM
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You don't need to do that, they'll pull away from you regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:39 AM
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Rape, meet violating someone's consent. You're doing it wrong. As usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:29 AM
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That's all great, but none of that explains the OP's numbers. Financial stress and instability, however, does explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:32 PM
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Yes, pretty much. I came from small town rural America. Biggest and best school in town was a Tech school. Year or two year programs. HVAC, electrician, auto repair. carpentry, plumbing, etc. Awesome school. People walk out of there into entry level $50k jobs at 20 years old. In a few more years they're journeymen, big pay jumps. Median house price in that town is around $150k, 3 hours drive away in Seattle the median house price is over $600k.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:24 PM
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Not disagreeing with any of that. But if you're Average Joe and sliding from middle class to poverty, chances are good your marriage is on the rocks as well. Average Joe living comfortably in middle class America or even upper middle class America? Happy family.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:16 PM
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It's all about his lack of sexual attractiveness. Always Sexual attraction doesn't pay rent. And it doesn't move you from renting to owning a house. Sexual attraction doesn't fix your broken down car or pay off those medical bills. Sexual attraction doesn't get you into the middle class or prevent you from falling into poverty. Watching a man fail removes a lot of the sexual attraction she has for him. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:49 PM
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Someone who had the foresight to become a qualified tradesman can make 100k+, with yearly guaranteed raises. I consider this the same as University.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:45 PM
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I have a slightly different take - Economic Opportunity and Stability It is a fact that blue collar jobs that pay well enough to get a family into the middle class are virtually gone in the First World. Those people with only a high school education have a hard ceiling on their earnings potential. Meanwhile every other family expense continues to rise. Poverty is a HUGE stress on a marriage, especially when a guy wants to work. This financial instability has a lot to do with lower class divorce …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:28 PM
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Women fall for lame guys running game every day. Guys fall for hot chicks who will treat them like shit and then leave them every day. In other news, water is wet and rocks are hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:20 PM
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Don't let hate, resent, regret and revenge fantasies define your identity. That is not happiness. Pot, meet Kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:18 PM
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History tells us that humans respond very poorly to top down social structures. Peace breeds complacency. No shit. and maintain a status quo where everyone is happy But do they get a pony?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:09 PM
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Which still does not imply that women have any right to a career. No one is arguing that point, Captain Strawman. Everyone should be protected from discrimination in the workplace. That's the point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:35 PM
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So red pill is not wrong, they are just overly dramatic and prone to overcompensation. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:32 PM
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How do you find your genuine identity and vibe and become more true to yourself? It's making your exterior match up with your internal self. Think about it. Would you feel comfortable dressing like a biker, working construction jobs, covered in tats, with a shaved head? Some guys are, this is who they are and they're comfortable and real in their own skin. The world acknowledges them as such. Then there are those who try to copy that look because they think it's cool, but it's obvious that they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:32 PM
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You sound pretty boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:24 PM
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Pretty boys get laid. There's worse things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:23 PM
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It's luck, unless you're a celebrity. With the right girl in the right place it seems so easy. Right girl, wrong place, you get cock blocked by friends or other stuff outside your control. Conversely, you can be in the right place, super fly, on point, game tight... wrong women everywhere. No dice. Luck plays a major factor. I get what OP is asking tho, he wants to have a discussion about how many guys can walk into a club and say "ay yo, who wants sum fuck" and get laid. More stories about Chad…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:22 PM
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Because there are more variables at play when discussing personal happiness than just how often you get raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:12 PM
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So you persist with your assertion that the existence of a law implies that the problem that the law is intended to address exists. Fine, I'll play your little Phil 101 game. Laws are not often passed to regulate things which do not exist. A bill to regulate unicorn hunting would be an example. No one would vote for it, they would get laughed out of Chambers. The laws against discrimination based upon sex were created expressly to address a problem which existed, and still does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 03:48 PM
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since the enactment of a law makes the problem adressed by the law existend by definition. This is not an existential issue. The reason there laws were created to put together was to address already existing problems, and work to correct them. No, those are not the same obviously. Stay on topic. Right back to you. I am not the one who tried to switch topics, you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:24 AM
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It seems that you are taking something very resistant to modeling or even quantifying in general (SMV) and trying to force it. My question is, how accurate can any of this be, and why even do it in the first place? There are better ways to discuss relationships and attraction than using spreadsheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:58 PM
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Why is it a given from the onset that lacking career prospects of women are the result of discrimination? Maybe there were just better qualified men applying? This is covered at length and has been for decades. Those laws came into being for a reason. Educate yourself before asking things that have been answered before. Google it's your friend. I most certainly have every right to discriminate in sexual partners, what friends I keep and what people I spend my free time with. We were talking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 08:15 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 05:00 PM
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Those are not just my opinions, they are the law of the land. I don't get where you believe that you have a right to discriminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:55 PM
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So... more like Sweden?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:02 PM
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How common is true desperation, tho? But honestly, you should start a thread regarding your first question. Why are you expected to be attracted to all the guys you meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:56 PM
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This it's a really good point that is never discussed here. I'm a guy and I'm sure as shit not attracted to every woman I meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:31 PM
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Atlas is right, as per usual in these exchanges. She is essentially saying that giving women equality has allowed them to pick a mate using different characteristics than "a good provider who will spare me from abject poverty". With the ability to be more choosy, women ARE more choosy. Get it? I have no fucking clue what our little Samurai is trying to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:28 PM
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Second that. The desire to reduce to people to spreadsheet entries is weird and unproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:31 PM
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Ad hominem aren't good arguments though. That's not Ad Hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:23 PM
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Sure, no one has any emotions or desires any sort of emotional connection, ever. Even basic fucking common sense says OP is all the way wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:22 PM
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No one is entitled to discriminate against someone in a professional setting because of their gender. Freedom means being free from discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:19 PM
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80/100 on the first one. Straight white male here, I know I have the privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 03:16 PM
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In porn Aaaand we're done. Porn /= real life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 03:10 PM
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Why would you think I hold a right wing or red pill viewpoint on this topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 03:08 PM
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Criticism of men being sexist assholes /= hatred
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:22 AM
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You know you don't want this girl yet you continue to use her breaking her heart harder. You don't know me well enough to say stuff like this. Sorry, you're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:31 PM
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TRP is sexist, whether I bring it up or not. And sorry, but I'm not going to hate on women just to satisfy you. I already said no one (including women) are entitled to anything when it comes to relationships. But apparently I am still not hateful enough for you. And I'm cool with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:28 PM
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if they are real PUA they won't spend so much time on reddit arguing in PPD I'm not a pick up guy, I just have a high n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:23 PM
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I am not here to satisfy your need for objectivity and balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:12 PM
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Again, where your previously unbridled desire for discussion and why did it all of a sudden turn into "discuss what?". I get it. This is a "shit on women" thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 09:36 PM
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I get it. This is a "shit on women" thread. Pretty sure I already explained no one is entitled to relationships. Should I start calling women fat bitches so you all feel better about yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 07:47 PM
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Relationships end all the time, most of the time someone has their heart broken. Using your rationale, anyone who breaks of a relationship and hurts their partner it's guilty of misandry/misogyny. Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 07:45 PM
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Ha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 07:11 PM
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Discuss what? No one is entitled to anything, especially relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 07:00 PM
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Breaking a girl's heart when you don't have to because you want her cunt isn't hateful or hurtful at all. This is the leap that's fucking you up. Breaking hearts /= misogyny or misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 06:53 PM
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implicit hatred I don't think this term applies to the examples you're given. A woman really likes you, but you're not that into her. The sex is good so you hang out with her every tho you know you'll never date her. She ends up with a broken heart. That's just normal dating stuff. There's no hatred there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:38 PM
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You don't get shredded and muscular naturally. Everyone works for this. Anyone with good genes can destroy their physique through bad habits, and it only takes a few months to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:20 PM
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What's the difference between a guy being stupid and buying a car for a girl who's just not into him and a woman who desperately wants a relationship with a guy getting used by him solely for sex? Two broken hearts, one male, one female. Is one worth more than another? Yes, there are shitty people out there (both genders). I don't see a greater point in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:17 PM
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To the BP people I only have questions. Do you honestly believe that this many men for this long are just griping about nothing? That something is just wrong with us - we're just hateful people without [just] cause? Can we be explained away without addressing thousands and thousands of personal accounts that form a pattern for understanding about what has gone wrong? What, you think everyone else is happy all the time? You think you're the only person who struggles with relationships and shit? R…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:55 PM
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You're comparing casual sex to addiction to crack. No. What you're also doing is infantilizing women, which is much more insulting than having consensual sex with them. Women are independent adults, perfectly capable of deciding who they want to fuck, it if they want to fuck at all. What they do not need is some dude on the internet treating them like children and trying to make the case that every time they have some casual sex they are getting taken advantage of. That's just not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:45 PM
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Casual sex is not a hateful act. Not every sexual encounter does or should lead to a LTR. and sorry for the implication 🤐 I'm getting used to all the personal attacks by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:19 PM
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If they truly GTOW no one cares or notices. But they don't. Instead they hang around Reddit posting hateful shit. Those are the ones that get pushback. I encourage all men to Go Their Own Way. Do whatever you want with your life. But that's not the issue here. MGTOW inevitably do not go their own way, and instead turn into beta orbiters of red pill, bothering the shit out of both pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:15 PM
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You continue to make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 02:24 PM
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So what's your solution? Sexual socialism?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 02:23 PM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:03 AM
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The rp you refuse is what misogyny and sexism actually are. What is this supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 12:52 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 12:22 AM
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I'll ask this again, and I'm sure I won't get an answer this time either. SO WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION? Advocates for fixing economic disparity have very specific solutions in mind that will change the current system. Agree or disagree, there is policy out there. What, exactly, is the solutions being offered for this (supposed) systemic disparity in the SMP? Anyone? Buehler?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 06:46 PM
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LOL! And you're trying to cry about personal attacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:45 PM
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Snowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 04:29 PM
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Don't be stupid. You meet a hot woman, you hit it off. You start fucking, the sex is awesome. You're so stoked! Then she's hanging out a lot with her friends, doesn't return texts. But you really like her so you keep trying. Damn it, she dumps you or ghosts you. "BETTER STOP FUCKING HOT WOMEN!! Only fatties from here on out!" Said no Guy ever Do you need more of an explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 04:13 PM
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To what end is this? Isn't it obvious? Women are to blame for everything, PARTICULARLY single motherhood. Look at what RP believes: 1) Women ignore nice guys to get fucked and dumped by Chad. 2) The only time women deign to fuck nice guys is to marry them and take all their money. 3) Women then divorce those nice guys and take the kids (choosing to do it alone rather than fuck these lame nice guys). 4) Another generation of makes gets fucked up since their fathers are forced away by ex-wives. Ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 04:06 PM
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Women aren't "scared" of TRP. They just don't like it, because "misogyny" (it isn't, but they believe it is). What really scares women is getting no attention from men, adverse judgment from men, and ultimately, that attractive men reject them. This it's actually true (except for the misogyny part). And what's interesting is that if you inverse your statement it works as well. What really scares women men is getting no attention from men women, adverse judgment from men women, and ultimately, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:48 PM
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Women are scared of red pill? Do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:41 PM
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OP is creating a False Dichotomy and then building a straw man out of it. Blue Pill folks don't tell men not to communicate directly, that's a ridiculous claim. Indirect communication happens whether you're trying to or not, it is default communication mode. EVERYONE communicates indirectly. What BP thinks is bullshit is your dead game, your shit tests, and you macho peacocking while overcompensating in pursuit of "masculinity". As usual, you're getting the blue pill view very wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:39 PM
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While TRP may say that life would be better for men with out those things, it doesn't make any attempt to dismantle them. Oh really? The MRA wing of red pill (and this sub) would like a word. And if what you say is true, why is there so much bitching about, and pushback against Feminism? That seems to fly counter to your claim of stoic acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 10:50 PM
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Not responding to an argument is a lack of logic. No. It's just not responding to an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 11:58 PM
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You might fool yourself with that kind of bullshit sophistry but it's unbelievably transparent. It's logic. Try it some time, you might like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 10:59 PM
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Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 10:58 PM
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Aaaaaaand that's not what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 10:57 PM
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You didn't respond to my actual argument, just whined about my tone/emotional state as if that was an actual rebuttal of anything. That is ad hominem. No it's not. Ad Hominem is when you use a personal attack to discredit someone's argument. "Your argument is wrong because you're an asshole" is an example. Not responding to an argument is simply not responding to an argument, there is no fallacy in that. And me saying that you have a limited understanding of the terms you like to throw around so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 09:19 PM
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Again, you're using ad hominem incorrectly. But you get a +1 for nailing yourself up on a cross like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 09:06 PM
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though one wonders where this neurotic deisre to be lusted for / wanted comes from male incels when I really don't think i have heard of this before. It's a longing for human interaction. You see this exact same feeling from populations of disabled or elderly or mentally ill. They are ignored by polite society and that inability to have meaningful connections with other humans (sexual or platonic) is difficult for people to endure. And none of that has anything to do with gender. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 09:04 PM
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My my... someone's feeling emotional today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 09:01 PM
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This is why I think incels are more feminine than they let on. they have a desire to be looked at and wanted just like women. That's not a gender thing, it's a human thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:53 PM
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Well sure. That's why I take issue with the idea that red pill is not focused on "feelings about women".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:33 PM
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That's fair. And you're correct, I was commenting more on the sloppy structure of the argument and the tendency of MRA types to overuse the term "deductive" because it sounds super logical as opposed to actually creating something deductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:31 PM
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feelings about women are not the focus I think if there was an analysis done you would find almost zero posts that were not about women or men's relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:23 PM
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Not true. There are A LOT of red pill folks who are adamant that red pill is not about self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:18 PM
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I think we agree on a lot of things, except for Sexism and Misogyny. You view them as tools to be employed for self improvement. I see them as immoral and unethical and limiting to self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:17 PM
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Your analysis falls apart if number 6 is reversed. "If you totally change what you just said... you are wrong." Not sure what this is supposed to add to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:15 PM
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Your saying that AWALT is incorrect. You are right and you've highlighted one of the major failings of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:10 PM
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Is there ANYTHING, ANYWHERE to corroborate or justify these very specific conclusions? Otherwise this is just a huge hamster wheel of rationalizing preconceived biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 06:45 PM
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<citation needed>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 06:36 PM
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It’s simple deductive logic Again with trying to force Inductive logic to become deductive logic. So many errors.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 06:04 PM
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I guess all the red pill folks who flat out say that red pill is not about self improvement are just a meme?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:53 PM
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<citation needed>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:52 PM
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My day to day looks red, but I hate sexism and misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:24 PM
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Red Pill is an excuse factory. Gynocentrism is against you. Chad is against you. Hypergamy is against you. Genetics is against you. AWALT is against you. Self improvement is an illusion. Red pill is creating hateful MGTOW these days rather than strong, independent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:22 PM
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Yep. Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:33 PM
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Yes to both. I would explain the phenomenon as having to do with chemistry. If you have really good chemistry with someone attraction grows, even if they are not model status or traditionally hot. So many times I have found myself getting to know a woman who at first glance is super average, but we connect really well and over time I find myself getting totally turned on by her. Conversely, I have gotten to know a lot of really beautiful women and have become totally bored with them out turned o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 12:49 AM
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Dick size? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 12:40 AM
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1000% correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 12:38 AM
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I think modern feminism hurts the majority of mothers, women of lower income, and women of color. Modern feminism is just a bunch of rich white women whining about not having enough power. There are tons of FEMINISTS who say this exact thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 03:48 AM
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Labels are kind of bullshit, but it seems like there is a LOT of gray area in these definitions. "Straight" typically refers to monosexual, as in not turned on by fucking around with someone of the same gender. "Bi-sexual" seems to be about people who get turned on by people of both genders. "Gay/homosexual" would seem to be those who are monosexual with people of the same gender. Pretty easy to understand. If those definitions are even close to accurate, OP is talking about bi-sexual guys fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 03:45 AM
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Oh look, an /r/iamverysmart in the wild. RP is nothing more than simply a set of observations of women's collective behavior and a set of suggestions based on that behavior. It's a lot more than that, as you say yourself. There's a lot of anger and frustration that gets vented here Understatement of the century. RP is all about the venting of the spleen, the emotional outbursts of men being directed and channeled away from self-reflection and instead towards hatred of women as the answers for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 03:32 AM
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Trolling? You really think it was just trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 05:08 AM
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Alphaness is genetic, it's not in your head. It's bullshit like this that makes you sound like you're tapping out. This sentiment is MGTOW, not Red Pill. But whatever, do what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 03:41 AM
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Imo omegas trying TRP/PUA stuff is what gave it a bad name No, it was assholes like Roosh trying to argue that rape should be legal on private property. For starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:59 AM
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If you don't want to do the work, just come out and say it, but acting like some imaginary "marketplace" is rigged against you is ridiculous. Life is Life, there is nothing you're entitled to or deserve. Deal with it. Or don't. Stop comparing yourself to other people, that's a recipe for depression. Your fake ass "expectations" are destroying you. Destroy them instead. You're letting the Perfect ruin the Good and it's causing you to opt out of life. Based on your OP you never understood RP and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:56 AM
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Then what is your issue with RP philosophy such that you equate it with gender apartheid? The Sexism and occasional Misogyny. Red Pill is designed from a "men are the superior gender" perspective (sexism). It is this outlook that I take issue with. Women as teenagers, Captain/First Mate are examples of this sexist outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:24 PM
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You need to explain "forced meaning". Whether or not it's the majority is not the point. It's the, there's a lot of it, and it's really bad. And you're okay with all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 03:46 PM
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Equality ≠ Sameness No one is arguing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 03:43 PM
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If he's that together and still cannot find a relationship he's fucking weird. That's not an insult. There are people who are off-putting to others without knowing it, put people in edge and are uncomfortable to be around. A book called Left of Bang explains how humans react to this kind of behavior. People who are extremely literal or on the spectrum have a lot of trouble identifying these signals and signs, and as a result they can turn people away from them without having any idea why.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:03 AM
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Learn to say no, learn to create boundaries, learn to stand up for yourself. It's Adulting 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:51 AM
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I see what you're trying to say but you're still missing my point. You are asking us to ignore the really extreme shit that RP says. BP is not asking you to ignore anything we say. Nor is anything we say extreme and offensive. So you are pushing a False Equivalency. Blue Pill and Red Pill are not interchangeable like you imagine they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:47 AM
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Be yourself could also mean be awkward, don't change, don't improve yourself people have to accept who you and you shouldnt change for anyone. This is where common sense could come in to play. "Let's see, I'm really awkward, they tell me to 'be my best self'... they must mean keep being awkward! That makes sense!" C'mon, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 01:47 AM
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That's because the extreme views are a problem. We don't really care about our notice the milder stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 01:18 AM
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You're missing the point. Red pill promotes both the views you just laid out as well as the most extreme points of view. If you want people to see red pill for a more nuanced point of view, you need to stop the promotion of extreme points of view instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 12:26 AM
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it's a heuristic that works 99% of the time Then it's not a heuristic. And red pill shit is not correct 99% of the time. And reducing individual people to a hasty generalization is almost guaranteed to put you in a bad place when trying to get to know them, ESPECIALLY for romantic relationships. All these years of me telling you guys this, and you're still not getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:42 PM
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Ignorance is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 09:29 PM
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The real problem is even "be your best self" IS NOT advice. There is no instruction or insight on how one becomes their "best self" or what it looks or feels like when you are your "best self". You need training wheels, we get it. Most people do, but do the work to figure shit out. It took me years to answer those questions and the answers came from many varied sources. There are literally LIBRARIES full of self help books that people have used for decades to learn how to become "their best selv…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 07:01 PM
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All men are not the same. All women are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:57 PM
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Because if you say things have nuance it should work both ways. Why? You are assuming that there is some kind of nuance in these red pill views that blue pill posters are missing, but you have yet to demonstrate any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:55 PM
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Personal insults in the context of an argument are ad hominem attacks, by definition. No, they are not, at least not in the way you are using them. An example of an ad hominem is: "You are wrong because you're an asshole." This is NOT an ad hominem: "You are wrong because X and you're also an asshole." Do you see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:50 PM
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You just told me is amoral? So why is not for me? Because what you described in your OP is exactly what red pill guys often advise. If that advice is too edgy or amoral for you, maybe you're more blue pill than you thought. Still have no idea what any of this has to do with blue pill posts not understanding nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:43 PM
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To make your analogy work you need to compare female sex workers with male sex workers. You are comparing apples and oranges. Should edit the post and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:12 PM
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This... it's some sort of epic Awakening? Find someone who shares your goals and motivations? This is new and unusual advice? OP must be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:10 PM
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Nearly all of red pill can be summed up in this logical fallacy. Hasty generalization is an informal fallacy of faulty generalization by reaching an inductive generalization based on insufficient evidence—essentially making a rushed conclusion without considering all of the variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:07 PM
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Sure they are. And things like that have been put forth by red pill guys. Flirting with other women in front of her is common advice for Dread Game. Red Pill is famously amoral, so to find red pill guys who would advise you to actually fuck her best friend...? Not much of a stretch. Look, red pill is all about extremes and over compensating for perceived (or real) lack. If you're not into extremes, red pill might not be for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 05:52 PM
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Red pill guys are known for their extreme literal interpretations of everything. This is pretty commonly understood and not really a thing. If you are one of the exceptions to this rule, great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 05:12 PM
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If the roles were reversed...? I have literally lost relationships because of my n-count. Oh, and am I to take it you would physically attack that woman? Am I supposed to think that's really cool or something? Should I get my ass beat because I hurt some of my ex's?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 08:55 PM
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How can you feel an emotion without knowing the cause behind it? That's fucking weird, dude. Don't be dense, tat's the reason people go to therapy. We're talking a little deeper than happy/sad/horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 07:43 PM
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You are reducing all of humanity to transactions. Not everyone hold this perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 07:34 PM
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Red Pill = gender apartheid Blue Pill* = equality *Should be noted that the blue pill subreddit is only about opposing and satirizing the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 07:31 PM
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You really believe that women are super villains, don't you? One guy's shitty relationship /= everything. Also, of you find out your SO lied out omitted something that's important to you, leave his/her ass. Why is this such a challenging thing for people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 07:02 PM
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Not being an incel is not really a distinguishing feature anywhere besides the bowls of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 07:13 PM
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Could you set the bar any lower?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 02:47 PM
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Your assuming that endorsed contributors are "experienced". That assumption is not proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 01:17 AM
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Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 02:26 AM
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Durian fruit. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 02:21 AM
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I didn't make a good/bad judgment. I just said that talking loud /= alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 04:17 PM
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Without the experimented contributors, there wouldn't be any TRP. Assuming facts not in evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 04:16 PM
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Men that lack experience go for TRP to learn. This is what I meant by having a good in your life. A lack of knowledge and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:10 PM
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Worst analogy ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 04:21 AM
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Also I bet if you would ignore the incel and mgtow whining that impression wouldn't be that bad. "Just ignore the Nazis and the alt-right is pretty okay."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:52 AM
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One of the things that brings red pill men together is their genuine lack of experience with women in general. It's no coincidence that there is such a high percentage of incels, 40 year old virgins, and guys who have been divorced and now dear they will never have another relationship. They come to red pill because they don't understand women and they want answers. You, on the other hand, already know a ton of different women in different contexts, so that sets you apart from the average guy wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:46 AM
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also you should stop trying to humblebrag about travelling through that kind of high-level social circles. i don't doubt that you passed through, but your attitude marks you as an outsider. Uh... you just did exactly what your accusing me of doing? UC women are by definition high earners. So you're agreeing with me and the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:36 AM
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You're confusing a technicality with real status. Those princes did not marry some chick they met working the register at Wal Mart. These women have a pedigree andstatus of their own. They had to in order to move in social circles that would allow them to cross paths with a prince England. Again, high status individuals Mary other high status individuals. That's the way the world works. And if you seriously think anyone marries for "beauty" you're radically over valuing physical looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:30 AM
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Belligerent and bellicose /= Alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:22 AM
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Don't be dense. In upper management or executive circles you must signal leadership qualities in order to take the next step. Your grades on much more than your work. Having a bimbo as a wife does not signal "stable leadership material". It's no different than qualifying for to level clearances in the federal government. You need to demonstrate real stability, both financial and personal or you are seen as a risk. So yeah, the person you choose to bring to the corporate Christmas party means a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:17 AM
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That's not the same as status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 01:59 AM
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men don't compete with each other for unattractive rich women and female CEOs. Again, it's obvious you have never actually traveled in these circles. High powered women attract high powered men. They absolutely DO compete for her. You don't think men hundreds of years ago rich men lined up to court rich daughters of noblemen, when they were already rich noblemen themselves? That absolutely happened throughout history and continues to happen today.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 12:53 AM
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My ex wife is a Mormon, pretty sure I understand that culture much better than you. Yes, stay at home wife is the ideal for the most conservative, but even those wives are expected to have a college education at minimum. There are plenty of high powered women who bring status to their family and husband, even in very conservative cultures, something like the Taliban being a notable exception. Men don't get their status from women's status. If a king marries a lower class woman, she becomes a que…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 12:32 AM
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no gives a shit about how successful she is. You've obviously never around high status males. With real status guys get beautiful women by opening the front door. Beauty becomes a commodity. It's like a rich guy bragging about a Mercedes. Everyone has one. High status women, on the other hand, a guy has to be somebody to get one of them. Models, women with real money. CEO's, celebrities. What you're talking about is a medium tier status.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 11:35 PM
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You're wrong as fuck. High status men want a high status woman to further increase their status. Having a vapid fuck toy or elevated stay at home servant as a significant other will lower a man's status.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:40 PM
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High status men want high status women. Power couple is a thing and increases his status. Having a little meek "pet" of a wife does not increase a man's status and in a lot of cases will in fact lower it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:36 PM
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Have you ever been to a university? Are you unaware that half the academics in any given University don't believe the other half so "real science"? This is not new, not is it discrediting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:48 PM
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So don't buy sex? What's the problem? I don't but illegal drugs either?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:27 PM
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This thread is confirming all of Red Pill's worst fears. /popcorn
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:20 PM
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The law isn't limited to human trafficking victims or minors. Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:16 PM
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So are we. And the vast majority of feminists are sex positive so this whole thread is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:40 PM
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Why, if sex is positive, should one party be jailed or fined when two adults consent to sex? What problem are they solving by criminalizing certain forms of consensual, non abusive sex? He just fucking explained it to you. No sex with minors or victims of human trafficking. None of that is consensual. Done. Unless you want to try and support sex with minors or human trafficking victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:30 PM
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But then, if a woman makes a decision to be a nude model, cam girl, sugar baby escort or do another job within the sex industry she is told she is a victim and suddenly, her actions are solely the result of the "patriarchy" and she needs to be forced to make different choices in her life. Where does this idea come from? Feminists support porn, particularly where the woman is empowered and making her own choices. This whole thread is just another example of a shitty strawman argument against Femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:27 PM
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What you don't think people can't put the two and two together? I said many red pill guys believe in transactional relationships. That is undoubtedly true. I also said that many blue pill folks cannot understand the transactional, red pill perspective. Also true. except that's exactly your argument by trying to frame RP is lacking empathy by redefining what "empathy" is. Transactional relationships have very little empathy, I don't think that's up for debate. Many red pill guys have agreed that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:08 AM
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You've said that RP view all relationship are transnational because they have no Empathy. Where did I say that? Check the title of the thread. I'm asking if RP believes in empathy. Read the responses, more than a few do not. Your argument is basically saying This is how you start a Strawman, which you then proceeded to do. You need to debate what I actually said. And finally show me where I wrote something that was at odds with the traditional definition of empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:16 AM
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FFS. I am saying red pill views relationships as transactional. Other posters are saying the same thing. But you're still telling me I'm wrong about that somehow. This it's just you being petty, because good forbid Skinny is ever seen being right about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:59 PM
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Fucking hell. He's literally agreeing with me and you guys want to prove somehow that he's disagreeing with me and that I am wrong. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 09:34 PM
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So basically you are already working on the premise that "not all relationship are transaction" Where did I write that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:27 PM
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But you are getting something in return when you "do things for other people" and that thing it's that fuzzy feel good feelings that you've just describe in that quote above. It became a self-serving circle jerk cycle of commuting resources to other people just for self-validation. You're proving my point. You cannot even conceive of a relationship that is not transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 06:10 PM
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I have you the definition of a term. If you don't like it go fight it out with the dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 01:30 AM
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I have posted threads, I have answered individual posters (who did not call me moron or other childish names) and I have answered many PMs from red and purple pill guys who just wanted to talk. Look up what I've written if you're genuinely interested. Or don't. But I don't put effort out for people who talk shit to me without knowing anything about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 12:59 AM
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We the method in which you achieved success and hope to emulate it. Anytime I explain my method I get rejected out of hand because there's no sexism or misogyny. You're just a moron. Oh look, another perfect example of what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 12:14 AM
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you seem to be confusing "empathy" with "sympathy". No, I am not. the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. It is walking in someone else's shoes, seeing life from their perspective. Sympathy is remaining in your own perspective and feeling pity for someone else's state. Now try your whole response again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 12:11 AM
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So he is a supporter of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 12:07 AM
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Calling TRPs sexist assholes is pretty rich coming from a guy who's had not one, but several of his field reports that have essentially been deemed "cringy" and "rape" by your very own fellow BluePillers posted to this very forum.... I am very close to red pill IRL, minus the sexism and misogyny. Gym rat High n-count Outspoken "asshole" Self built, not a Natural Again, the only thing that differentiates me from red pill success stories is the fact that I hate sexism and misogyny. If I hurt your …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 11:17 PM
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Everything I just wrote is, and has been observed in human for millennia. Exercise science has proven it as well. Calories in / calories out / exertion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:24 PM
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You're wrong. It's math, it's inevitable. Calories in / calories out / exertion Manage those three variables and you control your physique. If I put you out in the wilderness where you had to gather firewood all day up and down hillsides just to survive the cold nights and way only the organic food you could gather/kill, you would lose weight. It's a certainty. Along the way you would shape up and your lean muscle mass would increase while your body fat would drop (if you got enough protein). If…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:19 PM
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His basic idea is that pregnancy, childbirth, and early child rearing is so integral to women's brain structure and instincts that it ends up accounting for a large portion of personality, including conflict avoidance. This is a major factor in men's dating frustration, since women do not give valuable advice, leading to the very need for TRP. Is he actually an advocate for TRP or are you projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:05 PM
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the ironic and funny thing is feminists have in fact given credibility to numerous men's rights theories/ideas. So which is it? You claim that Feminists give credence to numerous theories AND absolutely shut MRA out of the conversation. Pick one. Additionally, MRA are shut out of the academic sphere because their "research" is shoddy and cannot stand up to peer review.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 08:19 PM
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TIL it's okay for red pill to blame Feminism for it's problems, but if anyone else does the same thing - It's always someone else's fault, or "society's" fault, and that's bullshit. K
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 08:16 PM
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So the transactional thinking stems from an overly literal mindset? Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:50 PM
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Theres one problem. BP champions sexual liberalism and casual sex sometimes even more hardline than PUA/TRP does. Blue Pill believes in personal freedom. Why is that so hard for red pill to relate to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:49 PM
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You think I'm keeping score because I see human interaction as transactional. If you see human interaction as transactional, you are keeping score by default. "Keeping score" is not a spreadsheet or a numerical summation, but if you are involved in a transaction, there is a tally involved, a deal struck upon the exchange of goods or services. You keep score when you execute and agree to take part in the transaction. Otherwise, you need to explain to me hope you take part in a transaction without…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:40 PM
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Why are you even on here? You don't put any effort into what you post despite wasting tons of time here. No one but hardcore blue pillers buy any of your laughably flawed arguments and blatant mischaracterizations. Half your comments are deleted when everything's said and done. What do you get out of all of this? That's it? You're reduced to hysterical personal attacks? Triggered for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:35 PM
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"what do you bring to the table?" would always be the first question asked to anyone who complains about their dating woes. True, but that's not really what I was talking about in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:20 PM
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No one is scribbling furious notes in their mental ledger each time they pass the salt or get up to grab the remote. No one, eh? Care to explain the red pill concept of Hypergamy to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:19 PM
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Read my initial post one more time, the questions are answered there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:28 PM
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I dispute that blue or left believes in what I said in the paragraph above. It's always someone else's fault, or "society's" fault, and that's bullshit. Those are factors, but the only factor a person can control is themselves. That is not a blue pill outlook. Red pill LITERALLY believes that Feminism is to blame for their inability to get laid and the general downfall of society. I see very few people anywhere in the world not blaming others for their problems, that is a human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:25 PM
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It goes to explain why men's rights is not taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:22 PM
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Well said. Would you agree that Red Pill tends to emphasize the transactional element of what you just explained while trying to minimize the empathetic? Dark Triad worship would be the most obvious example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:23 PM
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Either one of those descriptions is what I am talking about here - transactional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:22 PM
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So you're refusing to recognize the satire? You still believe it was real?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:49 PM
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Explain a bit more? Nuance is rare on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:48 PM
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Clarify. You have explained how red pill guys are all about transactional relationships which are "fair". That's exactly what I said in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:48 PM
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That was satire, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:45 PM
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You are reiterating the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:45 PM
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And the transactional nature of red pill relationships exists too. It's a discussion about that. If you don't want to partake, leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:44 PM
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Relationships are transactional in the sense that, you do things for each other, but it is not a literal monetary transaction and it is not always "fair". That's what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 04:22 PM
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This is what red pillers started off doing, and what got in the way of that natural consciousness of whether one side is contributing far more than the other. At worst it's an easy way to get taken advantage of in relationships, and at best it's a fast track to becoming more of a servant than the partner. A lot of red pill guys got the short end of that stick and one point, which is why they're red pill guys now. You're agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 04:21 PM
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Both males and females can be toxic, Yes. but I have yet heard anything along the lines of toxic feminism The Men's Rights movement is not academic and are therefore not taken seriously. And because of a real lack of education their writing and research suffers. Feminists (for the most part) use peer reviewed studies and submit their work on college campuses where other high level academics from multiple fields critique the work. Men's Rights pushes back against education in general and vilifies…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 04:18 PM
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My apologies, that was your brother in arms /u/Archwinger who said that. My life went from moderately shitty to moderately good, and I owe it all to hating women. Misogyny made me fifty times more successful, not to mention happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 04:11 PM
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/triggered Your getting very emotional, why don't you have a timeout?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 03:50 PM
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Yes, the ONLY reason I am empathetic is because my generic code is screaming at me to save the species from extinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 03:48 PM
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Again accusations of misogyny won't change anyone's mind. They're not accusations. You said that hating women improved your life. That Misogyny helps you. Then you tried to claim that red pill is about this - being fit, sexy, confident, assertive, dominant, flirty leads to success? This is such common, generic advice that it does not even register. Right up there with "women like men who can shit in the toilet, not the yard". My point from the start is that misogyny brings you guys together, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 03:45 PM
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you don't agree that men are not inherently rapists - so, you need redpill to fail. Now you're just making up random shit. Where did I say men are inherently rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 03:36 PM
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Which ones are ladyboys?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 01:27 AM
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There is nothing wrong with The Red Pill if there is nothing wrong with Cosmo. Logic dictates you actually make the case that TRP = Cosmo before you say something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 01:26 AM
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Is it really that hard to believe that being fit, sexy, confident, assertive, dominant, flirty leads to success? Red pill did not originate this advice, not is it even close to the core of their message. And I think you know that. You just wrote how misogyny improvement your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:42 AM
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Where is the evidence it is not? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:41 AM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:40 AM
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Ohh, you mean "field reports". LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:22 AM
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"sweat stuff"? I have nothing to do with red pill leadership, or the lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:08 AM
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Awwww, that means a lot to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:07 AM
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Success. It's easy to follow and replicate the success. Where is this success?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:06 AM
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So he never posts anything to red pill? His username is RedPillSchool. You're saying he's just a lurker, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:05 AM
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My life went from moderately shitty to moderately good, and I owe it all to hating women. You're proving my point for me. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:50 PM
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does a single person in the world, other than you and GLO, think that GLO is some sort of Red Pill guru? Not even "Do most Red Pillers think he is a Red Pill guru", but does anyone else think that, anyone at all. Uh... there are lots of red pill guys who think GLO is a guru. But I'm supposed to discount them because you think they're wrong? Who the fuck are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:49 PM
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So what, exactly, legitimizes red pill in your eyes? Because according to you someone like Robert Fisher has all the answers when it comes to sexual strategy and self improvement... and then chooses to be mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:46 PM
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But that doesn't mean RP isn't serious about self improvement, There are a bunch of people on this thread who say the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:41 PM
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If the theory guy gives advice that turns an unsuccessful player into a moderately successful player, or the moderately successful player into a superstar, then it's good advice. It doesn't matter if the teacher ever put his advice into practice. So where it's the evidence that this is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:40 PM
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You sure seem to know a lot about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:38 PM
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Read the replies from female posters to the pics I posted. If you really believe that I struggle to get laid I have a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 09:46 PM
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And I see people in this thread claiming GLO does not speak for them or RP. Which is it? I try to find some leaders. One is a legit bodybuilder, calls himself RP leadership. People claim he's not, then you hold him up as a standard bearer. Robert Fisher started red pill, he's a chubby chode. GLO still claims he's leadership material, others say he's not. And at the end of it all I cannot find anything that you guys actually agree on besides the Sexism and Misogyny, which is my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 09:44 PM
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I was talking about Robert Fisher in comparison to Greek Lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 09:40 PM
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I thought that red pill worked? If that's the case you'd think there would be something a little more quantifiable than "field reports".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 09:39 PM
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Theory >>>> experience Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 09:38 PM
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Because I'm quoting red pill leaders? K.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:55 PM
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So you can't get women Lulz
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:54 PM
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You didn't read what I wrote. You just equated Roosh, GLO, and the others to the role of librarians
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:53 PM
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Do you agree with this - "Those that can, do. Those that can't... teach." You're just hamstering now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:51 PM
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Did she start the sub? Does she claim to run it? Does anyone else claim she runs it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:48 PM
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The Red Pill is about whatever it's leadership says it's about. The answer was right in front of you the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:46 PM
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if i as a realtor founded a sub to collect and disseminate the lore, writings, videos and advice of top producers, it would be discredited or suspect somehow because I'M not a top producer. Uh... yeah, it kind of would be discredited. "Here's a bunch of stuff to show you how to be a top producer!" "Wait, you're not a top producer." "What does that have to do with anything?" "Why don't you... well, follow your own advice and become a top producer yourself? Especially since you claim to know how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:45 PM
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RP is a collection of things that work I'm asking for some proof of this and Robert Fisher died not seem to be a great standard bearer for alpha dogs holding frame and slaying pussy. But he's still listened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:39 PM
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Yes, I have a lot of trouble getting laid. But even if I did, if I was to shit on women enough in my posts red pill would take my advice like I was Moses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:36 PM
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TRP is a sexual strategy sub Okay. Is there any mechanism for demonstration that these founding members are not actually "pussy faggots"? Is there any way to substantiate that they're not just talking out their ass? It seems that red pill has a very low bar for that sort of thing that is not at all related to actual, real life results.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:33 PM
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So it's really NOT about self improvement or sexual strategy. And you continue to take "advice" from a guy who apparently does not have much success with either. You're proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:30 PM
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Quite a lot judging by the responses to that thread and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:28 PM
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You should ask GLO. He seems to think he's the shit. The Red Pill is about whatever it's leadership says it's about. If RedPillSchool Rollo Archwinger and I collectivly decide that the Red Pill is about milking goats and can sell you guys on the new goat milking direction then the Red Pill is officially about goat milking strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:28 PM
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So, I actually know about how to get women and I get abuse... but the chubby angry guy gives advice you approved of because...? You're proving my point. It's not about the results, it's about shitting on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:24 PM
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Even assuming that dude is not swimming in pussy, he could still be right about how to do so. A fat, lazy guy could tell people that starting strength is a great introductory weight lifting program and give detailed advice about lifting form etc, and point to great nutrition books and websites etc, and be right that its the way to do things without doing it himself. You're supportive of Monday Morning Quarterbacks then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:07 PM
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You're agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:06 PM
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No, he's a pudgy dudebro.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:04 PM
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TRP is a logical foundation built upon observation and mathematics. Now I have heard everything. Show me the algorithms?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:42 PM
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Your obsession with this guy and his perceived failure as a man is weird to me. Way to misread the entire OP. Please explain to me WHY I should follow any advice Robert Fisher gives on self improvement or sexual strategy? If I showed up to a gym and my new personal trainer was a chubby loser I am noping out of there. At what point does red pill all "how do you know what you're talking about is true?" It does not seem they ever ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:41 PM
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How about you respond to the OP instead of your strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:34 PM
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Robert Fisher = Bigfoot?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:34 PM
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This is what GLO wrote: The Red Pill is about whatever it's leadership says it's about. If RedPillSchool Rollo Archwinger and I collectivly decide that the Red Pill is about milking goats and can sell you guys on the new goat milking direction then the Red Pill is officially about goat milking strategy. You're saying he's wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:33 PM
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Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:29 PM
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/u/gaylubeoil disagrees with you. Link The Red Pill is about whatever it's leadership says it's about. If RedPillSchool Rollo Archwinger and I collectivly decide that the Red Pill is about milking goats and can sell you guys on the new goat milking direction then the Red Pill is officially about goat milking strategy. He says you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:28 PM
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You might want to review what Ad Hominem means and how it gets employed. Hint: It's not "guys who say mean things that hurt my fee fees."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:53 PM
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Thank you. Perfectly said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:57 PM
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This - following me around like a little barky dog Is not this - people challenging your opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 04:53 PM
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No, it's when you include a bunch of other posters in your response that leads me to believe that you want them to join in on the attack. So fuck off and quit following me around like a little barky dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 04:03 PM
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I never saw her original post, never had a chance to respond. You don't know fuck all what I would have said or not said. You can leave me alone now, this extended personal attack of yours needs to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 04:01 PM
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Are you brigading me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:17 PM
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At least that what you Blues tell us. Wrong again. Nice strawman tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:16 PM
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Consent isn't about "being into it", it's about boundaries. I'm not sure where you believe you get either the moral authority or the experiential knowledge to lecture anyone on anything to do with sex. How can you call yourself blue pill if you don't think a man can call an experience as being raped or sexually assaulted if he orgasmed? Quite the brave fight you're having with that strawman there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:15 PM
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The terms are terrible, as I have abundantly clear. How did you manage to not understand that? Ah, so it's not the actions themselves that matter? Where did I say that? I guess then relationship rape and marital rape aren't really a thing then? Willfully misreading again for cheap shots. My point is that because I knew her we were both comfortable playing around, even in public. When you're with someone brand new, it's different. When RP discusses LMR it's nearly always trying to fuck someone fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:32 AM
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You seem to be claiming that TRP is not filled with insanely literal, spergy guys who cannot parse "figurative language" or they would not have so much trouble getting laid in the first place. You must be new here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:40 AM
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You're still missing the point. Those terms are spergy and silly, as I explained. That story was with a woman who I had hoped up several times already, we were well known to one another, as I also have explained many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:36 AM
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I already commented on this post. Goddamn you guys are bad at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:33 AM
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There is a whole wide world out there. You should visit it sometime. Says the socially conservative guy on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:32 AM
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If she starts trying to get away Pretty sure I answered that if you would bother to read what I wrote. Is she enthusiastic about fucking you? she starts trying to get away If this is your first time together and she's trying to get away, she's not into it. Do you really need help trying to figure out if she's actually into it or is preparing to fight for her life? I would think the difference between those two is pretty easy to spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:22 PM
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You're paranoid, that's the deal here. I've talked to those people about cases where the guy tries to pull out of a girl, and she locks her legs behind him and stops him, and most of them agree that's rapey too. What. The. Fuck. Is it because confident men more comfortably navigate gray areas such as last minute resistance, token resistance, or anti-slut defense? This is made up RP terms, they are not real things. You make it sounds like a game of Magic. "I see you have engaged the Anti-Slut Def…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:09 PM
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However, good does not equal fuckable. Question for the OP: Why is this a gendered question? I know plenty of great women who are not at all sexy. What does that say about me that I won't fuck or date a "nice" woman that I'm NOT sexually attracted to? Are there men here who fuck and date women they are unattracted to simply because they're "nice" women? Personally I don't see that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 04:52 PM
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I don't see anything but complaining in the red pill article. Specifically, they are just bitching about how Feminists now expect men to do 75% of the chores around the house, therefore Feminism is awful. Pretty much par for course. Solution free opposition to anything created or said by a woman. Why would you include that here as relevant to the discussion? What was the worthwhile takeaway from that shitty article?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 04:42 PM
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Well, considering that the mods had to put the kibosh on incel threads, that right there demonstrates the truth of the OP. This sub is suffering from an incel pity party.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 04:35 PM
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I have to wonder if you saw a woman complaining in the exact same manner if you would label her the same way. Your more concerned with whether or not I will join you in shitting on women than you are about men being whiny dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 05:04 AM
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This is like pulling teeth. Because you're not listening to my answers since they don't confirm to your preconceived narrative. I'm not in agreement with your preconceived narrative. You're asking if everyone sees men in the same way. They don't. Men are allowed to complain. They get pushback on Reddit because they are dicks about it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:43 AM
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I don't know how everybody sees men. Your generalization is a little bit broad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:29 AM
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I don't read subs where women complain about being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:27 AM
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You really need to work on your satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:26 AM
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I explained why and how men get pushback. It happens when they are whiny dicks. It does not happen if they are just complaining about being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:57 AM
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So according to you, when a woman complains it's not as big a deal because "she's just a woman, that's what they do". But when a guy complains he gets attacked because all men are supposed to real life Marlboro Men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:56 AM
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Except if you're a girl? I don't see where I wrote that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:38 AM
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people are, generally speaking, more likely to see men as whiny Because women never get accused of being whiny or bitchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:37 AM
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I am just talking about NON-CRAZIES complaining about being single in a rational way. Pretty sure that your idea of NON-CRAZY is not universal, not is your definition of sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:36 AM
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Can you show me examples in mainstream subs of lonely men "whining" without sexism and misogyny, and not being met with hostility and censorship? They just get ignored. "I'm lonely and single and has a sad." No pays attention to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:33 AM
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EVERYONE has a Plan B in case a relationship does not work out. This is not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:05 AM
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No one gives a shit if you're single, married, be-sexual, pan sexual, whatever. When you start being a whiny dick about it you get pushback. No one notices incels whining until they start with their sexism and misogyny bullshit. Then they get attention and keep going because all of a sudden people are talking to them for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:02 AM
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utopian contemporary metrosexuality Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 12:30 AM
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Are you serious? That is not at all comparable to what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 11:49 PM
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Yup. The mental picture that question creates is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 11:14 PM
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Are there threads on here about women asking for help about how to "screen" men? I haven't seen them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 11:13 PM
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You're not getting it. If you look at it as tho you are "screening" people you act differently. If you look at it as tho you're just hanging out getting to know someone you might actually appear normal, which is the goal. Trying to "trick" someone you've just met? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 11:12 PM
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A cute girl such as yourself must have had to ghost a lot of losers and creeps in the past, huh? And you're accusing me of Trump-like one liners? It is to laugh... how men should screen women Screen nothing, it's not a job interview. And because you seem to approach it like that I'm sure you struggle with women. For example, how would you feel if a woman say down and asked you "so you must buy a lot of women nice gifts, huh?" Transparent and shallow, just like your question. And "tricking" no on…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 09:52 PM
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since BP is all about sexually empowering women and helping them screen men better No. Wrong again. For instance, if a girl has a certain level of attraction towards a guy, and he asks her whether she's ghosted guys in the past, she will deny it. To get that information out of her, the guy has to trick her: For instance - "A cute girl such as yourself must have had to ghost a lot of losers and creeps in the past, huh?" (framed with benevolent sexism, because that's what women subconsciously cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 09:02 PM
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Every other guy should just call it quits and end it, cause whats the point if you cant get what/who you want? If you want to throw in the towel go for it. Don't speak for other men. It's not a just world. I know that sucks, but that's life. Being born rich or having the innate skills of a professional athlete would be awesome, but I didn't get any of that. Woe is me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 06:12 PM
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Did someone say it would be easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 06:09 PM
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But TRP doesn't really advocate becoming all of those things, but rather to emulate them as much as is needed to succeed in a hookup scenario. You're talking about living in the closet, denying who you really are just in an attempt to get laid. If you think this is healthy over the long term you should think again. Most women here and in general want a man who's not just physically attractive, but is also: funny, charming, interesting, intelligent, adventurous, confident, and comforting to vario…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:58 PM
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Oh for fuck's sake. Playing the pity card?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:51 PM
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If you make women dependent upon men for resources then of course marriages is going to have increased value (economically) and women are going to get themselves married ASAP to avoid destitution. Likewise, if women are free to make their own money they might not need marriage at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 03:22 PM
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Wrong sub. This is red pill garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 03:17 PM
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Keen to provide me any examples of cultures where masculinity isn't traditionally linked to self worth in men A lot of American culture. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 03:14 PM
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You literally are saying feminism can never be wrong, and if somone ever believes or disagrees with feminism they don't understand it. No, I said YOU don't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 03:42 PM
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You cannot even imagine a world where masculinity and self worth are not linked. That's exactly what I explained red pill is hung up about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 03:42 PM
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Here is a feminist saying that no anti-feminist can ever correctly interpret feminism This thread and your comments are proof of that. You don't understand it and continue to rage against strawman of your own design.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:49 PM
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So, going off of this post and many many other places feminism is talked about, there is always this idea that feminism can never be wrong, incorrect, or falsifiable. WTF? My view is that feminism is viewed by feminists as this sort of holy relic that is beyond any criticism, that it can never be wrong or cause harm to men or women. Seriously, WTF? "Holy relic"? What is this supposed to mean? Look, if someone says some sexist shit, people tell them they said some sexist shit. Same with saying so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:47 PM
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Good for you. And I don't really care. And you're misinterpreting my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 03:24 PM
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Thanks for illustrating my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 03:23 PM
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What you're asking is what I'm answering. Having your shit together means you're fit, good education, good job, good social skills. All that confers status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 01:52 AM
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Uh... is this controversial? What do you think we mean when we tell RP guys to "get your shit together"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 01:27 AM
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The ones I have posted are. Go look.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 01:10 AM
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Talk with your dad about how to pick up chicks? Are you fucking kidding me? Who does that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:51 AM
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Le sigh... Those blue pill posts are often taken from this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:50 AM
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I still don't see women posting hateful things towards men on this sub. You expect me to go over an MRA sub and help you shit on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:06 AM
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Uh, no. Those have been provided by links over in blue pill. Go read them for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:01 AM
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I still don't see women posting hateful things towards men on this sub. I am not defending any rapists. You need to chill on these hysterical accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 11:51 PM
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"Do not commit to a relationship in the same way a man does" You need to explain this. Do you mean men who cling to every relationship for dear life or those who understand Abundance Mentality? Not all men commit to relationships the same way. Not all women commit to relationships the same way. Your trying to generalize everything and you really can't with a question like the one you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 09:00 PM
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Women claim to want nice guys, but hate them. Women want feminist men, but fuck "alpha" men. Women want egalitarian men, but are drawn to assholes. All women are not like this, and all men are not like this, so the entire premise of your post is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 04:37 PM
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But it never seems to impact their self worth. This is really key. RP has inextricably linked - Dominance = Masculinity = Self Worth But for much of the world that's just not the case. Makes it very difficult to communicate, almost like speaking different languages.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 04:36 PM
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Part of being a male feminist is being submissive towards female feminists for the same reason that white feminists are supposed to be submissive towards colored feminists if intersectionality is the topic of conversation. It's pretty obvious your entire world view revolves around dominance/submission. Not everyone shared that world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:40 PM
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Your version of it, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:29 PM
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Your anecdotes do not change the fact that men are on average stronger than women. Red pill did not come up with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:27 PM
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BP ideology is that the world is just. Who told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:26 PM
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You're wrong about that. They're is a BP ideology as explained by Rotho. There is no BP ideology from the blue pill sub. Stop conflating the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:25 PM
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A rapist isn't going to be dissuaded by your superior pushing ability Red pill goes on and on about the physical strength difference between men and women. They're not always wrong. Or maybe they have a weapon A woman raping a man at gunpoint? That's new.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 05:41 AM
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It supports male rape survivors until the exact second you point out this makes their views on other things sound completely ridiculous. Then they try to be as offensive as possible in a heroic effort to distract you. Really well said. This is what I was imagining would be the response. Excellent, you've shown me something I never knew. But I still have a really, really tough time understanding women raping men. Like, just push her away. I don't get it. And this makes me doubt the study, or thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:57 AM
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Blue pill has no ideology. extreme leftist thinking and acting Again, not blue pill. You're just wadding everything you don't like into a blob and yelling BAAAAAAD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:50 AM
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You should start a thread. It's only one study, and there are other numbers out there that contradict it, but I would be curious to see how the incels and 80/20 believers of red pill respond. Probably just a "look how terrible women are, men have it so rough!" kneejerk, but you never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:48 AM
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You know why the KKK doesn't lynch people anymore? Liberals. Or do you believe they just suddenly got nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 11:22 PM
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The existence of the KKK is not enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:51 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 06:21 PM
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You're talking about PUA players who do the ONS thing, not high n-count men in general. There's a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:30 PM
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All but the hating women part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:54 PM
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YOU are the one with the wildly contrarian claim, which you have done nothing to substantiate. But by all means, please continue. /popcorn
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 05:42 AM
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it's common sense that people of both genders rape. Assuming facts not in evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 05:35 AM
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How is it "common sense" that women don't rape men? I'm just gonna leave that right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:52 AM
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One. Guy. Quit using him as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:51 AM
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I am deferring to common sense on this one. You hold the wildly contrarian viewpoint that men are often raped by women. Show me your cards. I call bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:32 AM
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You're dodging around like a ninja.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:21 AM
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I'm gonna let you prove me wrong. Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:20 AM
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I'm agreeing with you. My question was more for our RP friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:19 AM
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You're trying to steal their thunder. Very brave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:59 AM
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Men get raped all the time. By other men. By women? Yeah, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:59 AM
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Sounds like you think standing up for yourself and establishing boundaries makes you an asshole. Not sure that's actually the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:57 AM
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Why you Blues have such trouble believing this, I will never understand. We believe it. We've all seen people like you in our lives. You're like the male version of Stella Got Her Grove Back, just with more hate and a never-ending grudge. Let it go, bro. You're going to give yourself cancer. Edit: words
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:53 AM
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I was quiet, shy, kinda nerdy. Then I got in really good shape. I'm still quiet, shy, and nerdy. Just a much higher SMV now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:42 AM
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If course it's possible. Stay single. Work a decent job. Go to the gym religiously. Eat right. Work at getting laid like it's your second job. That's your life. Question is, do you really want to live like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:40 AM
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The KKK begs to differ. And they have over 100 years of terrorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:30 AM
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Make up your mind. You scream that average guys can't get laid, dead bedrooms, etc. Now women are raping you guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:28 AM
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You're such a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:27 AM
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Propaganda is not persuasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:26 AM
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Wow, /triggered t's quite possible to oppose right wing nationalist xenophobia against different cultures while still opposing their misogyny. Apparently the ability to hold that kind of nuanced view is beyond you. ALL fundamentalists treat women like shit. Not all religious people are fundamentalists. You want to label one entire group as fundamentalists and that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:30 PM
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There aren't "studies" on a lot of things. But RP theory is not common sense on the same level as parachute effectiveness. RP ideas are debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 08:43 PM
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I'm not the one who made the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 08:40 PM
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CMV it is not scientifically proven that parachutes prevent death when jumping out of a plane. Uh...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 07:53 PM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 06:15 PM
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I condemn ALL religious fundamentalists and fascists. Their native culture makes no difference to me. That said, there is nothing wrong with peaceful Muslims, in the same way there's nothing wrong with peaceful Christians or Hindus. The problem is religious fundamentalists, every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:00 PM
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for some obscure doesn't have such an effect. Are you claiming that liberals support Islamic culture that represses women? If you are, that's some bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 03:21 PM
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You just asked my opinion. Now you don't care about my opinion. Feeling hormonal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 03:19 PM
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It's an opioid crisis that needs help from the government. It's a crack cocaine epidemic that needs more prisons and mandatory minimums.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 03:17 PM
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because I'll never settle down as if the game were over. If you have to work this hard all the time... nope. If it's this challenging 24/7, something's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 06:31 AM
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The 'youth pastor friendzone article' guys are the evil far right now. I don't know what this means.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 06:21 AM
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weaponized autism ????
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 06:20 AM
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I've known a few women who were into rape fantasies and one who was really into non-con. Not my cup of tea, but the bondage play was fun. All of them described it as losing control (or having the control taken away) relaxed them. No more decisions to make, no more thinking in general. Just experiencing. Feeling. it's the total lack of responsibility Well that's a shitty way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 06:18 AM
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That's a lot of work. The thing that people don't realize about guys who have high n-count is the amount of time meeting new people, dating, texting, etc takes. It's your main hobby. You work, work out, and work on getting laid. Sure, it's fun, but it's very time consuming. Not everyone has that kind of time, or interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 06:11 AM
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the obvious heuristic K
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 06:00 AM
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You're agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 06:00 AM
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It's judgy to think that someone else's sex life is any of your fucking business.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 05:26 AM
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It's their Life. I don't give a fuck what they do. Why are you so judgy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:56 AM
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How would you react to Huffington Post? You'd dismiss it outright, don't act like you are objective. The Federalist sure as shit is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:55 AM
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You trying to make the case there's no white terrorists out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:53 AM
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Regardless of whether this is fake Facts are irrelevant when hating on women is the goal. This post is a new low.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:06 AM
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Oh please, continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:03 AM
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The Federalist? Why not just link to Drudge or RT?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:03 AM
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Oh look, racism from a red piller. Quelle surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 03:45 AM
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Power. They have none, so the thought of exercising complete power over someone turns into a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 03:29 AM
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TIL that Western men never rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 03:28 AM
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That's better somehow? Real hate would be deliberately not hiring and restricting the opportunities of females at your company solely because you don't like women and how they are. This occurs. Regularly. It's why Feminism still exists and is still supported by so many. Real hate would be you and your bros running women out of your favorite bar because you don't like having them around. Real hate would be specifically targeting, killing, beating, robbing, and raping women because you think they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 04:48 PM
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I find it hard to believe that any Red Pillers truly "hate women." Because there are over 200,000 of us. If a mere 1% of them murdered a woman this month, that would be 2,000 deaths. So... your litmus test for hatred/misogyny is murder. Anything short of that is just "anger phase". Talk about moving the goal posts. Moving them clear out of the fucking stadium.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 04:36 PM
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I see more feminists dismissing others as not being true Feminists than the other way around. They tend to be cliquish and judgy and not willing to share the feminist title with those who are not True BelieversTM.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 09:40 PM
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There are lots of women misandry posting to PPD who need to be put down?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 03:40 PM
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I put down sexist and misogynistic men. Read carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:14 PM
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I put down sexist and misogynistic men. I have no idea if they are weak or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 04:48 AM
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AWALT. How many terms does red pill render useless then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 02:03 AM
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what moral/ethical axiom leads you to believe misogyny is inherently bad/evil? Christ, really? /r/badphilosophy or maybe /r/2edgy4me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:36 AM
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Yes, exactly. Lots of victims of bullying, shit home life, etc. Anger, frustration, self hatred. The biggest problem with red pill is that it channels that rage directly at women. And the guys love it because it preserves their ego. No idea how to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:29 AM
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Unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:25 AM
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Oh look, someone with no sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 11:25 PM
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Oh bullshit. When someone asks if you're a rapist, that's an accusation. Don't play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:41 PM
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Uh... and the OP. Which was the whole reason he posted it on the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:07 PM
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Meanwhile, the very existence of all this alpha/beta/PUA pseudo-self-actualization crap has caused to me to be a much larger asshole than I prefer. It's not intentional, but when people act like that, I mirror the behavior and values that I'm exposed to, and in TPPD, it leads me to want to emasculate RP'ers rather than talk with them and learn from them. I feel primed to feel as if I'm constantly in sexual competition with them even though it's not actually the case. Very will said. I agree with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:05 PM
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Nope, hate it. I am not argumentative by nature. Or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:03 PM
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Go ahead, post my dick pics, IDGAF. But insinuating that I'm a rapist is something different. Or is that too nuanced for you to grasp?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:02 PM
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Never heard that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:00 PM
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Why do women have differing opinions on things? Why aren't people more like robots?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 06:06 PM
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I've clearly mentioned cases in real life, such as discussions with friends of friends, or clubs at school. And from this limited data set you feel confident to make sweeping generalizations regarding all women. That seems accurate to legitimate to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 05:00 PM
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The only conclusion I can come up with is that women just lie about this all the time. Based upon what you read on the internet and a chick you see at a restaurant you're prepared to make a blanket statement about how all women lie. K
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:43 PM
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Just confused and afraid that the blue pill is missing out on a grand opportunity to promote their beliefs in a cohesive and strong way. We're just here to oppose the sexual and misogyny. It's pretty easy to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:40 PM
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That's the best you've got?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:39 PM
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Reddit has a large amount of low SMV neckbeard representation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 03:12 PM
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You wanna go to church? Go. But don't get pissed at other people for not sharing your love of dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 03:11 PM
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Exactly. And this is what's hilarious about all the wailing and gnashing of teeth going on over at red pill regarding Robert Fisher. Dude is free to believe however he wants, but keeping his strongly held views a secret so he can appear to be mainstream... no, fuck that. And finding out that someone holds red pill views can absolutely be a deal breaker for a voter, and that should surprise nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:25 PM
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Your solipsism is not my reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:12 PM
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My closest friends and I have bonds that our wives/girlfriends/LTRs can't match. That's great. Good emotional connections. I have those same emotional connections with my closest women friends. Thing is, they're also hot and give me blow jobs from time to time. I like my friends better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:07 PM
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The things you have listed as grievances are language, domestic violence, and rape. Women don't want to be verbally abused, physically abused, our sexually assaulted. Makes sense. I don't want to be verbally, physically, or sexually abused​ either. You are pushing back against that. See the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 06:24 PM
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Do they help you move when you call? Will they be there if your dad dies? Is there that truthful bit of sacrafice, from which male friendships thrive? Yes to all of that. They are my friends. I don't treat friends differently if they have a dick. In the case of my ex wife, we raise my children together as partners now, why wouldn't I have her as a friend? Better for everyone, especially the kids. Its tgere a reason why you believe those kinds of things are gender specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 06:20 PM
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Hierarchy of Needs. Go to the top of the pyramid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 05:50 PM
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Why wouldn't I? You fight with everyone? Makes no sense. Just because you're not in a relationship does not mean you can't be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 05:45 PM
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I'm divorced as well. I've seen it all. But I still get along with all my exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 04:18 PM
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What is SRS?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:41 PM
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No one did that either. When OP asks if my story is "rapey" he did exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:40 PM
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And...?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:39 PM
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this was a nice small example of how they aren't on your team All my FWB and exes and platonic women friends would beg to differ. Nice try tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:39 PM
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It's the equivalent of asking "do you still beat your wife?" It's a fallacy for a reason and if you can't figure out why it's rude than you are more spergy than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:15 PM
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What is the link for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:14 PM
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Also, I like you man If this were true you could have asked about this. I would have willingly started a post with you. As it is, you too a cheap shot for shits and giggles against a blue pill poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:13 PM
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No, when her implied I'm a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:10 PM
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And the haters brigade assembles like a low SMV Voltron. I guess when it's all you got you've got to find your fun somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:10 PM
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Taken out of context and lied about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:04 PM
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By red pill guys, I get that all the time. They constantly try to twist what I say into "but blue pill are the REAL Misogynists!" This is just the penultimate example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:03 PM
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The only one calling you a rapist is your fellow bloops Who? I see much more blue pill calling it good fun, and hot to boot. You're lying again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:02 PM
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Bullshit. This post had been up for years. The ONLY time rape has been mentioned is by this OP. This OP is the same as asking "do you still beat you're wife?" It's a set up, a cheap shot at someone you don't like personally. As I said, the only time I ever get a false rape accusation is by red pill guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 02:59 PM
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I'm not craving character assassination you dumb fuck. This OP is a cheap shot posted without my consent and is being used to call me a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 02:39 PM
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That's the thing about the truth, doesn't matter if you believe it or not, it's still true. That's why I wrote this up. It was such a crazy and fun and random thing. Sex in public is not that weird, and lots of women are turned on by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 02:20 PM
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Why are you posting my history here as field reports you fucking creeper? This did happen, exactly as I described it, about 15 years ago. NOT a field report, a write up of a funny and fun sexual encounter I had with a FWB. OP needs to ask before posting stuff and applying a red pill context to something that is not. He's not being honest here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 02:13 PM
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Thank fucking God someone who actually knows the law showed up. Appreciate this post, Atlas. LOL @ all the hysterical red piller types.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 03:23 AM
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We need several real lawyers in here to parse the actual law. The rest of the commentary without real legal representatives is ignorant bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:24 PM
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The failure of red posters in this thread to discuss sexual strategy doesn't support the claim that TRP isn't about sexual strategy Yes it absolutely does. They are all more interested in shitting on women than in gaining any knowledge from her writing. If they were seriously interested in sexual strategy they would say to the OP; "who cares? That guy was an idiot when he approached her and here's why" and then teach something about how to pick up women in that situation. Instead we get a bunch …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:18 PM
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You think alpha men don't shit on women, red pill or not? You think all alpha men shit on women? They don't. Not by a long shot. We just observe and report fantasize and fap. And what we see is that if you're sexually attractive enough (red pill or no red pill), you can shit on women and the women will love you for it. They'll love you so much they'll lap up your shit, clean it up, and say your shitting on them was their fault. Your revenge porn is decidedly omega.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 07:26 PM
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How Red Pill of you. No, I said you can act any way you want to. I didn't say to shit on women, which is there red pill response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 05:46 PM
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I'll bite. Which rights are they trying to take away?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 05:23 PM
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Red pill focuses on casual sex because none of them can get any so it seems like a miracle that any guy can. But their low SMV experiences are not the norm. Alpha men also have the ability to draw other people to them. They get deferred to in many social situations and are naturally seen as leaders by the people around them. Casual sex comes with that (if they want it), but that's not the focus of their lives by a long shot. It seems that way to red pill because they obsess about casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 04:48 PM
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Raise your SMV, then you can act any way you like and women will be attracted to you. Red pill cannot agree on definitions of the term Alpha or Beta, so I have no idea why you think any of that shit matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 04:44 PM
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I outlined in great detail what Blue Pill's ideology is. Because... that IS what Blue Pill ideology is. Based upon the opinion of LewisCross. Did you write that on the stone tablets yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 04:41 PM
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Sorry hun but men have more incentive today to slack off and not meet increase standards women have than to meet them. Best get use to it. As it sure hell ain't changing. Then embrace the suck and enjoy your low SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 03:45 PM
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You seem much more upset over imaginary internet points.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 03:44 PM
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I don't vote on Reddit, up or down. It's becoming clearer that the main reason you came to red pill is the sexism and Misogyny. And if you expect me to believe you are not red pill you should stop parroting all their talking points and acting just like a red pill guy. You claim one thing, and then represent yourself totally differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 03:19 PM
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I'm frustrated red pill guys are "anger phase" instead of in the gym fixing their lives. If you want to continue to roll through life with a low SMV, that's YOUR choice. And your choice has consequences. And none of that has anything to do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 03:16 PM
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Why should men today get their shit together and raise their SMV? This a reply I got from this very thread. You tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 03:14 PM
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Why should men today get their shit together and raise their SMV? So you can get laid, get relationships, or get married if you want. Or was their some other reason you came to red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 02:29 PM
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< citation needed >
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 02:28 PM
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You must be new here. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:01 AM
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They're called misogynists because they say misogynistic shit. It's not self-improvement. There are a million self-improvement sites out there, red pill is not like them. The difference is the misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 04:32 AM
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They're called misogynists because they say misogynistic shit. It's not self-improvement. There are a million self-improvement sites out there, red pill is not like them. The difference is the misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 04:31 AM
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Really well said. +1
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 03:33 AM
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Everyone should be realistic or be content with living alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 03:31 AM
4

This martyrdom is hella Omega.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 02:31 AM
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This is should not be a gender specific question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 02:30 AM
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Why does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:52 AM
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Best not even try then, right? Run to the warm embrace of TRP. Plenty of guys there to tell you it's not your fault. Bro hugs and angry sexism for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:31 AM
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So... women should temper their expectations because large​ swathes of males suck at life? How about guys get their shit together and raise their SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:11 AM
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Well... shit. I really wanted to talk about warlordism too. Who gives a shit about welfare? ;) Sorry for the distraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:08 AM
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It seems like there is a perception problem that the childish men are outnumbering the mature ones. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:33 AM
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Who's going to pay for the police? Are you talking about City states? You have done nothing to address the power void left by the collapse of a federal government.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:22 AM
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Your math is still shitty. If 12% are liberal, and 24% are moderate, how can 88% be right wing? "Moderate" K I am somewhere between Sanders and Trotsky on the simplified left/right spectrum, and yet I oppose modern feminism. Opposing Feminism is a key component of red pill. And that puts one squarely in a right wing stance. The fact that you favor free tax payer funded college for all our single payer health Care does not really factor into that. Socially, you're a right winger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:20 AM
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Do you know the reason the LGBT community fought so hard for marriage? The legal protections and rights it gives. Take away law and order, go back to rule by the local strongman, marriage loses a lot of its power.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:16 PM
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Okay, that's pretty funny. +1
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:13 PM
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I'm not saying that I agree with that, I'm arguing that their failure to address to discuss sexual strategy in this thread does not mean that trp isn't about sexual strategy. But it does demonstrate the knee jerk reaction red pill has to anything feminist, which is my larger point. Fighting Feminism >>>> Sexual Strategy You will first have to show me that the leaders of TRP have actually done this. I searched for this article on trp and couldn't find it. Your having trouble finding a feminist ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:12 PM
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The Maturity Gap between men and women is a real thing, and it's why women often go for older men. If you want to talk about "bio-troofs", when women feels their body telling them to have kids they are going to prioritize a guy who has his shit together as opposed to the boy-man dudebros who play video games all day and never miss Sportcenter. Biology, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 09:06 PM
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"Only"? Don't limit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 09:01 PM
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If you're on the internet whining about Feminism "enslaving" alpha males, then you ain't no alpha. Further, you don't have a fucking clue about alphas in general. This guy is just bitching about having pay child support. Fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:58 PM
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why exist when you can't be you Grow a sack Do what you want I'm digging this poem thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:55 PM
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Ah, okay. So the question remains, are you cool enough for blue pill? Hmmm....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:50 PM
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Take a look at the power void created when a state fails and there is no Central government. Warlordism. Virtually no law and order. Dating and marriage in that situation? Who would marry you? And who is going to respect the legal definition of marriage anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:48 PM
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That's not kink, it's criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:44 PM
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Welcome to blue pill. You just identified 95% of the guys who yell at me on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:43 PM
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I want necessarily talking about red pill users, I was talking about the Dear Leaders who drive the sub. Yes, red pill guys are often absurdly literal. Since that is the case, red pill often writes things or like stereo instructions. Fine. Great. These Dear Leaders, if they actually have a shit about anything other than putting down women could take this article apart and diagram all the things the guy did wrong to not only guarantee rejection, but scare her and turn himself into a creep. Wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:41 PM
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But you can't turn around and complain when your standards are set so ridiculously high that no one can ever meet them. Maybe that's a sign you're not actually as great as you think, rather than others being not amazing enough to deserve you? Talk about narcissism! You're talking about red pill guys, right? Because I could have written this quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:14 PM
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It's very entertaining and distracting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 05:05 PM
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Red pill needs to offer that caveat, they don't. So there's the answer to your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 05:03 PM
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Ah, female tears. I use them as lube when I am balls deep in the newer talent. Rapey as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 04:13 PM
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You know what's childish? Blaming other people for your high standards. You know what's ridiculous? Blaming other people for not dropping their standards to your low level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 04:12 PM
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I think it's better to say that in a world where resources are scarce, Hypergamy is exacerbated. In other words, in a chronically poor culture or society women will be more likely to want a mate who can provide a stable income and who can provide for them and the family materially. In a culture or society where that same woman grew up secure (in terms of resources) they are not going to prioritize a man's income or job prospects as highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 04:09 PM
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Yes, but most people do not only generalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 04:06 PM
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Because speaking about women as some kind of monolithic block (AWALT) is lazy stereotyping at its worst and 100% red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 02:56 PM
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You can sum up this undergrad Poli Sci analysis by concluding that all red pill guys hate feminists and SJW. And that is a right wing position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 02:52 PM
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Blow jobs for all. That's really the reason every guy comes to RP, right? Trying to figure out how to get someone's mouth around their penis? It's very basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 12:12 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 12:08 AM
1

Because 88% of red pill are right wing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 12:07 AM
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Show me on the doll where the mean feminist touched you. Articles like the one the OP linked are a blueprint to success with women if one is willing to parse the data instead of just nerd raging. You learn how to make women comfortable, trust you, and what they really want and how to talk to them. But fuck it, it's your life. Rage away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 12:06 AM
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So... 88% of red piller guys are right wing. Yup. That's exactly what I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:27 AM
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I have yet to meet a red pill guy who voted for Hillary. Not a single one. And someone is trying to claim that red pill is not political.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 02:37 AM
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So when I'm jerking off I'm actually fantasizing about having more kids. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 02:33 AM
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You're missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 02:08 AM
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The difference is in what you do with that Absolute Truth. Mathematics is used to build bridges and rockets. Red Pill "truth"is used to shit on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:20 AM
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I have yet to meet a red pill guy who voted for Hillary. You need to be honest with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:18 AM
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Explain to me how you can be so certain you're not making emotional decisions and then rationalizing them by repeating "realz, not feelz" to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:15 AM
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Then grow your own food. Or pay through the nose for certified organic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:07 AM
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As I understand it, if a woman doesn't wanna reproduce with a man, she considers his genes inferior, and would not want him to reproduce with other women either. You don't understand it AT ALL if you honestly believe this to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:40 PM
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Then you must be agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:39 PM
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That's what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:03 PM
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Instead you take the angle of focusing on how she feels. Every single time you talk about "shit tests" you're talking about how the guy feels. He must recover his "frame" so he can feel masculine. There's no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:03 PM
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This thread is a perfect example of why red pill calling themselves "sexual strategy" is completely wrong. If they were truly interested in successful strategy they would analyze why this guy put himself in a situation where he was 99% sure to not only get turned down, but creep the girl out instead. Instead, red pill guys respond about how much of a bitch she is and why Feminism sucks. Red pill is not about successful sexual strategy, it's about shitting on women. It's a fucking incel factory p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:00 PM
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A bigger, more physically intimidating guy would have made the situation worse. See point #2. I have several friends who are big dudes and played some college football. They are very aware of their size and the fact that it can frighten people if they surprise them in certain situations. Why does this guy feel he can walk up to any woman and subject her to 20 questions? The fact that you seem unable to realize how terrible this guy's strategy is worries me. He put himself in a situation that gua…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:37 PM
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We breed animals and plants to get the results we want, and have done so for thousands of years. Of course we're going to extend this tech to people who can afford it. Red pill teaches us that we're just animals after all, so I don't believe they should have any issues with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:30 PM
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If you're actually serious about safety you would know about the importance of deescalation to keep yourself safe. Unless you're walking on the streets of South Africa or something just tell the guy to piss off. This is escalating behavior and, as the comments in this thread show, a lot of guys will see this as a "shit test" and escalate in kind. You're telling both sides to escalate, with a confrontation of some kind going to happen. Great advice for your sister. /S If you're in public with wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:27 PM
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Because you of all people would prefer if anyone took that bispectacled malcreant's opinion as even just remotely representative for feminism. Word salad translator needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 06:16 PM
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but you're an adult - tell the guy to piss off. How about when you feel unsafe? Still a good idea? What would you tell your sister in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 06:01 PM
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Just like it's within your right to approach someone, it's also within the one your approaching's right to be annoyed by it. This logic is sound and completely answers the OP, but it pre-supposes that women are human beings just like men and are entitled to their own opinions and to have those opinions respected, even if those opinions run counter to men's opinions. That did just don't hunt here on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 04:49 PM
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"I refuse to read feminist viewpoints, but I know everything about Feminism." Standard red pill ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 04:37 PM
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The way he felt entitled to my attention and my personal space. The fact I didn’t feel like I could give him a direct no because I felt that I was in an unsafe situation, and refusing him would further risk my safety. The responsibility was on mine, and mine alone to remove myself from the situation this stranger had put me in. So you hear her say this... and you feel pity for the guy? WTF is so wring with the above 3 points? Additionally, your spergy response of "men can't approach women EVER" …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 04:32 PM
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Such a fucked up perspective. Just another "all women think like this and I know because I read it on Reddit" posts that do more to highlight the weirdness of the OP than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:58 PM
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The point is that class will always be more important than race and gender. To you, perhaps. By eliminating the class system, most of the problems of the blacks would be solved. Like magic!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:54 PM
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You want a sugar mama to pay your bills? Think for a second about what type of guy that woman is going to want then reread your OP and see if it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:52 PM
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I have done that. Over the past year, I have been accused a few times of sexual harassment by female reports whose sexual advances I declined. Each time, it has been meticulously compiled evidence and my reputation for utterly annihilating the careers of women who pull these stunts, that has both saved me, and has partially deterred these predatory females. Not one of them has gotten a job in the industry once I was through with them. /r/thathappened or /r/iamverybadass Someone help me decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 05:07 AM
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No. "Identity Politics" are about people of color not wanting to live in a white nationalist apartheid state. Go fight your Marxist psychodrama somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 04:58 AM
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Damn good write up. Shame that it will fall on such deaf ears around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 04:56 AM
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I really think it could be. High level of emotional investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:16 PM
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But if the OP comes to pass and we live in a world that is magically the same in every way, except women aren't legally protected humans, but all other laws exist, then women would essentially be talking cattle. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:15 PM
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The people who want to do that don't care about laws. We're not talking about those people, they're already in jail or branded as criminals. I'm talking about people who WOULD do something if they knew they could get away with it or it was suddenly legal to do so. Why are you being snarky and condensing? Apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:14 PM
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Lighten up, Francis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:37 AM
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Why is it that, by definition, I treat women who are the object of my desire merely as sexual instruments and not as partners or friends who I also desire sexually? It's all in the way you do it. If you are able to get sexual desire across while still respecting a person than you're doing it right. Fuck that exchange up and you're a creep or a pig. Want an analogy? Humor. Why are some people funny and some people just aren't? It's in the way they get their humor across. Two guys can tell the exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 03:09 AM
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You win the internets. Need to find a gif like that for cool dads like me. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 03:01 AM
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I really think your opinion on that is in the distinct minority. And in a Democratic republic that matters a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 02:59 AM
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Okay, mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 02:22 AM
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Apartheid = equality? You sure about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 02:21 AM
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