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That would be part of the deep discussion, wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:07 AM
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You care, or you wouldn’t have made this post I made this post for not the reason you think. otherwise you wouldn’t have specified women I specified women because their narcissism and self-centeredness is encouraged by society whereas men's isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:47 AM
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I don't care how it sounds to you man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:38 AM
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I'm asking for even the most basic explanation that you have ACTUALLY experienced this in person in any way whatsoever. Im not gonna sit here and answer your questions about how many self centered women I've been in dates with, how that 'evolved' and when i noticed it or whatever. Thats a waste of my time. If I answer those questions then what? Does it suddenly change your view that you've never met a single self centered woman and they have all been supposedly intelligent and deep? Just downvot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:35 AM
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You're weirdly defensive about this. If you've not met a single self centered woman then thats great. Keep doing what you're doing. Also, i don't know who you're quoting because I never used the phrase "problematically self centered, narcissistic and entitled". There is no level of thosee things that isnt problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:30 AM
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not really.. no Like I said, thats really amazing. this doesn't seem like a common thing.. Self centeredness and narcissism in women doesnt seem like a common thing? Maybe you are also self centered and narcissistic and therefore you dont notice anything because to claim that such women dont actually exist or that you haven't met even one is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:23 AM
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If they remain single, men will complain Why would they care about men complaining? Why is it ok for men to be selfish and narcissistic but not women ? I didn't say it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:04 AM
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You've not met a single self centered and entitled woman? That is so amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:03 AM
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The nature of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:59 AM
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What an intelligent response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:22 PM
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Its not really weird. There are many deep topic to talk about that aren't personal and have nothing to do with your personal fears and vulnerabilities, and if someone has to ask what are deep topics to talk about, they're basically a lost cause and giving them a list of deep topics will mean nothing to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:53 AM
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these are the ramblings of a paranoid, deranged mind. From your limited perspective, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:01 AM
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Well, they did. But you can believe whatever makes you feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:19 AM
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they weren't that interested in talking to you Then why would they initiate conversations with me and even suggest that we hang out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:52 AM
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especially unattractive men, is essentially meaningless Thats what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:07 AM
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Now they’re just as bad as men Hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:06 AM
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Women are now acting like men And this is a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:17 AM
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Yes Then just be single. Why get involved with someone when you only care about yourself and what you can get from them? Thats literally what narcissism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:13 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:57 PM
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Like I said, because many are such NPCs that other men who are NPCs can see that many women are NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:02 PM
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Your example would be equivalent if you said "Many men are stupid and boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:57 PM
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Because many are such NPCs that even male NPCs can see that they're NPCs. Its like being such a robot that other robots can tell that you're a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:55 PM
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Do you think men think beyond themselves when getting involved with a woman? Men are so terrible yet you copy what they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:54 PM
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Do you think that anyone with basic intelligence would see a conversation about the kardashians as being deep?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:31 PM
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In the beginning, yes. So you think in the beggining of getting to know someone you supposedly like, being only concerned about yourself and what you can get from them is a good approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:22 PM
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Some definitely are, but so are some men so...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:49 PM
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. There's not much of an incentive for women to commit to men or behave in ways that would benefit a man. Then they should remain single, just like the men i mentioned in the post who are walking away from women. This kind of cold, self-centered behaviour from women is a reaction to mens abusive behaviour towards women in relationships historically imo. We can justify self-centred and narcissistic behaviour all we want but at the end of the day its still self-centred and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:32 PM
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But is being concerned about only whats in it for you and what you can gain from the other person a good approach to a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:29 PM
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While thats a very revealing comment, it doesn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:25 PM
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This is essentially a trick question. If someone has basic intelligence they know what a deep topic is. Even chatgpt can tell you what a deep topic of conversation is. But if you have to be told to know then you might be a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:24 PM

I dont believe that you really believe that thats what the post is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:15 PM
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And is this a good approach to a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:13 PM
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. Have you read an actual study or things written by actual researchers Yes, I have a degree in psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:12 PM

Do you really think thats what im saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:11 PM
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What do you mean give an example? Obviously being only concerned about yourself when you're getting involved with another person is being self centered. What example do you need?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:05 PM
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But you are still identifying walking away from women entirely Walking away from specific types of women described in the post. Which unfortunately are not a minority, but still im not saying its literally all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:03 PM
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The point being that attention from men doesnt automatically "mean squat".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:58 PM
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And its not true because not all women expect that. Does the post say all women? The rest are not examples They are. You just can't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:57 PM

Why should women think beyond themselves when getting involved with another human being (dating)? Very interesting question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:56 PM

Not thinking about anything beyond themselves and what they can gain from being involved with men, expecting men to pay on dates, always thinking about themselves and so on. But im sure you know what being self centered and narcissistic is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:50 PM
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Not thinking about anything beyond themselves and what they can gain, expecting men to pay on dates, always thinking about themselves and so on. But im sure you know what being self centered and narcissistic is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:49 PM
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Really? Women think about vowel shifts in Middle English or the fall of the Roman Empire when a man says many of them aren't interested in deep conversations?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:47 PM
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If you didn’t mean “most” or “all” you could not then logically propose “walking away from women” entirely. I didn't "propose" walking away from women. I stated that some men are walking away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:44 PM
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No, but you're implying "most do". The post says many, which isn't necessarily most. A minority of women are shitty? I never used the word shitty, even for the many women its describing. Some people are narcissistic. Yes, and many of them are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:42 PM

Sure, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:37 PM
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Do you mean "deep" as in an in-depth topic of study, like, you're for some reason surprised most people don't have strong opinions about vowel shifts in Middle English or idk the fall of the Roman Empire? Is this what you think of when someone says something is deep?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:37 PM
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Thats not what the post says or is even about. Are you offended on the behalf of women or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:34 PM
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You sound like a tinfoil hat dude yelling about brain chips, oh, but your so woke and enlightened. Because I mentioned social programming? Every psychologist knows about social conditioning/programming...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:30 PM
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The post is essentially what the link is about. Its about narcissism and how its due to social programming and how women being self-centred is leading to some men to choosing to remain single just like the paragraph where the link is says.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:27 PM
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That's the most anti-intellectual and pseudo scientific way you could describe human psychology for sure. Okay, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:25 PM
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so their attention means squat. This simply isn't true. The attention of men they find ugly may mean squat, but not the men they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:25 PM
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If you find all women vapid and inane, you are a misogynist. Does the post say all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:24 PM
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Not really. Its only a weird concept if you dont understand human psychology and how the mind can be programmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:18 PM
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So what are you actually saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:02 PM
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Right...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:35 AM
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If a society conditions men to be more logical than women then that will definitely affect how logical women are. And this is exactly what has happened in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:57 AM
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The minority, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:56 AM
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there is no gender difference in how logical a person is, whether it's due to conditioning or otherwise. Do you think men and women are socially conditioned in exactly the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:46 AM
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Because if women are less motivated They are not less motivated. They just arent masculine enough and therefore are cowards when it comes to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:45 AM
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Do they? Yes. And you know they do. I also think that it's been widely disproven that gender has any impact on how logical a person is.. Conditioning definitely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:38 AM
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It obviously does How? "If women had truly become masculine in the traditional sense, we would expect to see them initiating relationships as often" Did most women in relationships initiate those relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:37 AM
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I don't care about that. It doesnt change my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:07 AM
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So men want to be unburdened These are your own words. What incentive do i as a woman should have to be in relationship with a man? What incentive do you have now? Having someone to think for you, lead you and take the initiative?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:07 AM
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if men shouldn't be masculine, then what do they even bring in relationships? Where in the post does it say men shouldn't be masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:58 AM
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it’s got nothing to do with gender. Well, it does because its usually men who embody those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:56 AM
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Why would they want to be logical, take initiative and communicate directly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:52 AM

Actually, the looks are the main reason they get attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:16 AM

If a man isnt desirable thats even more reason for him to be detached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:04 AM

That part of the post is speaking in generalities about the average guy in the dating world, not the guy a woman falls for, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:02 AM
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the average guy wasn’t a horndog 24/7 women wouldn’t run around expecting princess treatment So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:44 PM

then wait for her to pull the trigger so you can pretend you got “left.” Do you know what detaching and moving on means? Does it mean you wait for someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:25 AM

is to just politely actually move on. Thats literally what the post says... Not chase nor play little “no you chase me” games, because none of that is going to work, and you’re wasting your time and mental energy. Where in the post does it say to do this? How much of the post did you read and did you actually understand it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:23 AM

There's nothing there. So you chose to comment on a post where there's nothing there? Thats not strange at all. I can tell when someone is regurgitating trite material they were spoon fed elsewhere. You clearly cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:21 AM

Yea I’m not going to keep repeat your sentences You can't repeat a sentence you never said in the first place. The full sentence says even if she doesn't show interest It doesn't matter because you have already detached and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:02 PM

but OP probably just wants to keep access. By walking away??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:56 PM

literally said what you followed it up with? What is the full sentence that i followed it up with and what do you think it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:55 PM

You say that “she’ll come back Whats the actual full sentence? And what does the sentence that follows it say and mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:12 PM

I can tell when someone hasn't actually read the whole post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:12 PM

try harder I'm sure that will suddenly increase her interest. women aren’t men As you were typing this, did you feel like you were actually making a good point by saying women aren't men? she isn’t going to suddenly start trying because you stopped trying Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:11 PM

Nope Wow. Thats very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:41 PM

So you really dont know what losing interest in someone looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:20 PM

So, I'll repeat: can you please define what losing interest looks like? Only if you can tell me what you losing interest in a man would look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:56 PM

I don't know, that's why I asked. I dont believe you. Suppose you were dating and lost interest in someone, what would that look like? Or are you not even able to imagine what losing interest in someone would look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:19 PM

What are signs someone is losing interest? You don't know? You've never lost interest in someone and no one has ever lost interest in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:09 PM

he’s a user and avoidant For walking away from a woman is no longer interested? The woman sounds like a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:06 PM

You said "This whole thing of oh just detach and she might come back is also stupid advice." Since you read the post, is that what it actually says?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:38 PM

Yeah, to be polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:18 PM

I think the whole post answers your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:09 PM

Why play games tho? Why is leaving someone who isnt interested in you alone playing games? Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:39 PM

Why dont you just ask whats going on? Because there's no need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:03 PM

I'm guessing you either didn't read or understand what i wrote. Thats not really surprising. I would have thought women would like the idea of men leaving women who are no longer interested in them alone. I guess i was wrong. I suppose men should just keep contacting women when they show a lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:59 PM

You can come to whatever conclusion feels good to you, i don't mind. But the point of the post still remains.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:47 PM

Some people might assume “she didn’t want me to come over once so therefore she’s not interested in me anymore.” Do you believe that most men would actually think this after being told not to come over once? Or “she didn’t like my new insta post.” Really? Or “her mom died 5 days ago and still hasn’t sucked my dick, she’s totally over me” I dont believe that you actually think that anyone thinks like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:46 PM

So give me an example from your own life. I don't need to or want to do that. The point still remains that if a woman a man is dating starts losing interest, the best approach is to leave her be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:43 PM

So then you know what losing interest means.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:37 PM

How do you know she’s lost interest and isn’t just busy at work or something? Its about patters of behaviour. Not just a one time thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:35 PM

I think anyone with any social intelligence and intuition just knows when someone they're talking isn't interested in them. Things like one word replies for example, taking hours or even days to respond to texts. Surely you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:29 PM

Idk You really don't know what losing interest in someone looks like? You've never lost interest in someone and no one has ever lost interest in you, and you dont know anyone who has ever lost interest in someone? Thats very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:22 PM

You didnt answer the question, in your mind what does losing interest look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:15 PM

Just tell me first, in your mind what would a woman losing interest in a man look like? Would she respond to his texts in the same way she did when she was interested? Would she be as attentive when they hang out? In your mind, what does it look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:12 PM

Surely you know what it looks like. Just tell me, in your mind what would a woman losing interest in a man look like? Would she respond to his texts in the same way she did when she was interested? Would she be as attentive when they hang out? In your mind, what does it look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:11 PM

I would imagine that a lack of communication would be appreciated by a woman who shows a lack of interest in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:09 PM

I guess in your world leaving people who arent interested in you alone shows an absence of social intelligence. Thats a very interesting perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:49 AM

The fact that you don’t believe in talking to her Talking to her about her loss of interest? Thats ridiculous. You want her to be confused and hurt. If she has lost interest she won't be hurt. If she hasn't lost interest then she'll text or call me, won't she? Unless she's some NPC with no sense of agency, in which case its best to leave her alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:48 AM

You are reacting to perceived slights and assuming loss of interest If you have any social intelligence you can tell when someone is no longer interested in you. to see if she chases you, Nope. The point is to leave her alone and thats it. Be a man, ask if she lost interest Again, if you have social intelligence you dont need to ask. You can tell. Its so dumb asking a woman if she's lost interest. If you have to ask, then its obvious. If you can’t do that, you definitely don’t need to be having …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:45 AM

Leaving someone who has lost interest alone isnt punishing them. That doesnt even make sense. If she's lost interest, she won't care. Isn't this obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:29 AM

This whole thing of oh just detach and she might come back is also stupid advice. Thats literally not whats being said. I dont get why people who didnt actually read the ppost bother commenting. Be honest, did you actually read the whole post?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:27 AM

Nope. There is no mind games in leaving a woman alone once she's lost interest. Why announce it? She lost interest. Move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:25 AM

Can you explain how leaving alone a woman who has lost interest is "revenge fantasy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:24 AM

Thats not whats being said, but im sure you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:23 AM

Nope. Its just leaving her alone since she's lost interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:22 AM

He cares enough to leave her alone when he sees she's lost interest. If she has any sense of agency and she was genuinely into him, she'll be the one to reach out to him when he stops. The only reason she wouldn't is if she's not interested in him anymore. Its so obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:55 AM

Why would she reach out to somebody who doesn’t act like an adult in this scenario? If she doesn't reach out to a man who cared about her and texted regularly when he stops doing it then she's not actually interested in him, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:50 AM

If thats the case, she'll be the one to reach out...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:39 AM

If thats the case, she'll reach out and talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:36 AM

you should confront the problem you feel with her and then make a decision Whats the point? "Confronting" her loss of interest isn't gonna make her more interested. And if she has lost interest, im sure she'd appreciate being ghosted by a man she's lost interest in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:34 AM

Read the last sentence of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:25 AM

I need me a simp! This is like an OF girl saying she needs customers. It goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:00 AM
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What does that have to do with the post you're commenting on?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:09 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:59 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:30 AM
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And now you know why I make the posts i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:38 AM
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I don't know why you bother with the same message I don't know why you bother commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:07 AM
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This is when I report and move on. Thats exactly what a real man does. He reports people online for saying things he doesn't like. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:21 PM
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What is stopping you from asking her out? After asking her out, how are you going to contact each other on the day of the date, and even before and after?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:11 PM
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The point still remains that for things to change collectively, it has to start on an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:30 PM
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She has no reason to want to be with you because you are an unknown. Thats what giving her your number so she can text you is for... Talk to her. Interact with her. Flirt with her Just out of curiosity, how do you think a man would give a woman his number without talking to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:28 PM
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I won't leave my wife alone Based on the content of the post beyond the title, i would have thought that its obvious that this post applies to single men who are dating. Just in case it needs to be said, it doesn't apply to men talking to their mothers, sisters, wives, bosses, coworkers or women in general. Its about dating and men chasing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:23 PM
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Your assertion is that women have become entitled My assertion was that too much attention from men makes women entitled and self centered, which is true. That reduces a desire for a relationship to mere attraction, Physical attraction is what keeps most relationships going, whether we want to acknowledge it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:58 PM
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Women, as a whole, do not expect to be pursued by or receive attention from every man I never said they do. Effort toward a person who doesn't wanna receive it is meaningless This is basically what the post is saying. The issue being described doesn't stem from women holding a position of power. I never said that women hold a position of power. I know the don't. and not acknowledging that they cannot force a different result This is why the post says that if a woman has any sense of agency, she …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:40 PM
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If you want to take zero social risks as a man, you will be hiding in the dark. The comment you're responding to literally says that men should give their number to women and if they (the women) text them, set up a time and place to hang out. This is actually the most intelligent approach for men because if the woman text you, you know that she's definitely interested. Getting her number means she might reply without actually being interested. She may just be bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:17 PM
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Disagree that it works the way you think it does. Okay, so how does it actually work?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:15 PM
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I would argue this is the argument of the incels that go on shooting sprees This is just an attempt to shame me out of what I said. It doesnt work on me. I understand how the ego works so I know im not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:45 AM
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it's normal and natural to like having one's ego stroked. Just because something is seen as normal and natural in an insane asylum (the world), that doesn't mean it actually is normal and natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:37 AM
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Maybe some influential people have to do something individually as an example first. Bit it still boils down to people doing things individually first. Its just most people are NPCs so they need others they look up to to do it first. But ultimately you need social enforcement. It cant be enforced. It has to happen individually by choice for it to mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:35 AM
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when I choose to wear sexy clothes, I enjoy getting compliments from RESPECTFUL men who see me as a person, even if I don't feel drawn to them. Yes, because they stroke your ego. Naturally, you're not gonna be drawn to most men who compliment you, meaning they just go around stroking the egos of women who arent drawn to them, which inflates those women's egos, which is the problem. Other women absolutely want guys to do the first step. This is why I said if the woman has any sense of agency and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:26 AM
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That’s a horrible opinion of people Its the reality of how the human ego works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:22 AM
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your saying it because you think women are attention seeking and entitled. I never said women are attention seeking. I said the attention makes them self centered and entitled, which it does, and it makes sense that it does. Anyone who gets attention for just existing will inevitably become self centered and entitled regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:11 AM
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it’s about punishing women. How is leaving someone alone punishing them, especially if theyve made it known that they wanna be left alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:00 AM
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Most men don't give women their numbers, they ask women for theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:58 AM
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You want men to be bitter When did I say that? and think that women just get so much attention The reality is many women do get attention without actually doing anything worth the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:57 AM
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That’s literally not it. So men shouldn't leave women alone and keep approaching them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:06 AM
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these are problems for a culture to solve. How is ''culture" going to solve a collective problem, if not through individuals in that culture changing their behaviour individually?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:57 AM
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“Most women” don’t “develop feelings” for a guy until they’ve hanged out with him alone for a bit. Then men should give such women their numbers, and if the women text them, set up a time and place to hang out alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:52 AM
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I don't think you know what not trying means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:16 AM
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they were attracted Without me trying. Thats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:00 AM
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there is no naturally attracting women In your experience I don't doubt this is true. In mine however it isn't. In fact, the most fun I've had with women was when I attracted them without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:36 AM
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So basically it’s about sex These are your words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:18 AM
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women are passive in general they don’t know they like you until they have an emotional response They sound like NPCs. your advice is dumb Its only dumb if you're enable to naturally attract women and have them interested in you without trying. I'm pretty sure thats whats going on with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:16 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:34 PM
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Pregnancy, std’s, Physical abuse…. And because of this men need to sell themselves to women who are cowards? Thats ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:16 PM

Certain jokes never get old for children (who dont have a very high IQ), so i get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:10 PM

You made the same "joke" on the last post i made without an Esther Vilar quote so...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:23 PM
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Congrats, you are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:06 PM
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Because sex and relationships in general are less safe for women. In what way? Women are more risk averse Meaning that they are cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:05 PM
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If the post has an Esther Vilar quote, you complain, if it doesnt, you also complain. Its like you're trying to potray women as a stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:03 PM
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Boohoo. You're not disproving the point of my post. It’s less safe for a woman to initiate. How? If she initiates and he’s not attracted he’ll still probably pump and dump. Why would initiating have to lead straight to sex? If he wants easy pussy the least he can do is make the first move. If she's "easy pussy" then there's nothing stopping her from initiating, except being a coward, which most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:55 PM
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Except for initiate. Thats the main thing, and they dont even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:47 PM
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So don’t initiate. Don’t text. Don’t call. Don’t remember any little details about them. Don’t make them feel like you care. Don’t do ask them about themselves. Don’t reassure them. Don’t make plans. Do women generally do any of these things? I dont mean the exceptions, I mean women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:44 PM
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I think in your mind, not trying means not taking care of oneself or dressing nice or whatever, and thats not what the post is about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:51 PM
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Thats the point. When it feels natural, it's not trying to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:49 PM
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No, thats not true. I've gotten to know women without trying to impress them at all. And ironically its only in the cases that I've tried to impress that I've "failed".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:33 PM
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Honestly if I liked someone and then they showed up to our early dates making very little effort, I'd just drop them and move on there and then. The reality is if a man was making no effort but you didnt know it, it wouldn't make any difference to you if you actually liked him, unless he was being objectively unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:28 PM
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I'd rather be single than tap dance to be liked by women. But thats just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:26 PM
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Whats the point of removing comments that agree? That just limits what people can say. Its not even necessary to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:40 PM
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They do. No, they actually dont. Unless they have no free will. I was at a childhood friends wedding this weekend. He has a PhD from MIT and his wife's vows were implying she was smarter than him, and his vows played into that. Followed by hours of him pretending to want to dance to general issue fem cringe music. Probably over 100k paid by him. The phrase humiliation ritual kept coming to mind Well, to begin with, your friend didnt actually have to get married. Thats a mentally challenged choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:38 PM
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Interesting. So in your mind getting to know a man is the same exact thing as trying to impress him?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:25 PM
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If she feels like another guy does it for her better (and "it" could be literally anything) it's wraps. And you think tap dancing to impress is the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:23 PM
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No, it's possible to like people without being impressed by them. Thats also fine. There's still no need for men to try and impress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:22 PM
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all relationships are a series of performative hoop jumping for men They don't have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:18 PM
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It's not degrading to get to know someone. There's a difference between trying to get to know someone and trying to impress someone. Don't you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:17 PM
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Your monthly cycle, birth control failure, and pregnancy don’t care about the length of your relationship So all men who go on a date with a woman should pay just in case?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:35 PM
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Men are really out here calling a date a financial investment Its women who call it that. Also, if you're getting pregnant on the first few dates, you're doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:55 PM
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Well, thats actually nice. But the truth is many men pay because they know that not paying means no second date. The average man knows that paying increases the chances of his date liking him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:31 PM
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I've never actually known any of these women that apparently get mad about paying for coffee. Well, you dont date women as a man, thats why. Most men offer and want to pay and that's that, in my experience. Do you think that could possibly be because they know not paying means there's no second date or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:16 PM
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Paying for a coffee on a first meeting seems to be something that would create drama with you already. Why do you think women dont even want to pay for their own coffee? OP, when should sex first happen when you start dating someone? It doesn't actually matter. It should happen naturally whenever it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:11 AM
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I think we need to define what is meant by “drama” to have a meaningful discussion here. Well, as a starting point when you hear about drama in relationships and dating, what comes to mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:38 AM
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You’ve made (another daily) post on it. No i didn't. I haven't made any post about unnecessary drama in relationships. It’s irrelevant And yet here you are...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:14 AM
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But I didnt ask anyone about dating dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:05 AM
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No dude, you don’t ask someone to fix your car if they’ve no fixing car experiences. Did i ask anyone to "fix my car"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:00 AM
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Do you know that its possible to make observations about collective human behaviour without it having to do with the person making the observation? Thats what this post is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:52 AM
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Thats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:45 AM
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all the people who talk about how much they hate drama are always participating in it. Well, that can't always be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:04 AM
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I am unsure what the debate or discussion is even supposed to be about Everyone else who commented seems to get what its about, whether they agree or not. What do you think that means?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:12 AM
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So the post isn't wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:05 AM
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Wait so you think people should love people other than their kids unconditionally? The people they have those kids with, yes. Also, unconditional love doesnt mean putting up with abuse. If your child who you supposedly love unconditionally became abusive towards you, would you just allow it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:29 AM
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And she says she never wants to have sex with you or have you touch her again… In other words, she's breaking up with me. Unconditional love doesn't mean forcing yourself on someone who clearly doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:38 PM
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Well, you're the one who brought it up. Im simply sticking by what i originally said about parents not genuinely loving their kids. Love isn't some switch that can be turned on and off where the mother switches it off in relation to the father of her children but somehow turns it on in relation to the children. Either its there or it isnt there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:36 PM
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And my dad had kids with a woman he didn’t love unconditionally. How is this not supporting the point I'm making? Their love for me has never once been questioned Well, it is, by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:30 PM
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What do you think conditional means? Like I said, there is a difference between physical attraction and unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:28 PM
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My mom’s love for me exists in spite of her relationship with my father So your mum had kids with a man she didn't love unconditionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:23 PM
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I’m not talking about abuse… but you’re with a woman and she gains 160lbs and has 0 desire to lose it. She stops having sex with you. She stops putting effort into the relationship at all… Well, first of all her no longer having sex with me would mean she's no longer attracted to me, so the best thing to do would be to leave her alone. Secondly, sexual attraction and unconditional love are two different things. I can love someone unconditionally without being sexually attracted to them. I can st…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:21 PM
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Yes. Unfortunately most people are so unintelligent that they think unconditional love means staying in an abusive relationship or putting up with shitty behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:12 PM
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So because my mom and dad got divorced my mom doesn’t love me? If she never loved your father unconditionally to begin with then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:10 PM
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NO ONE loves unconditionally You dont love unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:09 PM
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I’m a teacher and even the worst parents still have love They have a biological attachment and response to them. Thats different from love. According to you, even parents who abuse their children still have love for them, which makes love basically meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:05 PM
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Im not overgeneralising. Im just generalising.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:01 PM
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None of these things mean anything about who they actually are and what kind of person they are. You can be all these things and still be a bad person. Maybe this is why women end up in abusive relationships. You only look at the surface and think you know someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:59 PM
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So yeah, I responded to the generalization. If you meant it as “this has been my experience,” you should’ve said that. I meant it as "this has been the experience of countless men."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:20 PM
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I just repeated what I wrote in the post, so why did you respond to it in the first place? I literally said in the post that obviously not all women are like that but enough are for me to able to generalise. This was written in the post before you decided to engage with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:07 PM
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I just repeated what I wrote in the post, so why did you respond to it in the first place? I literally said in the post that obviously not all women are like that but enough are for me to able to generalise. This was written in the post before you decided to engage with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:07 PM
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You’re taking a type of person and acting like it’s how women operate in general. Many women are like that, enough for me to be able to generalise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:38 PM
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“being” is not an action. Just like how who you are is not an action...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:24 PM
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But the idea we can't conclude a persons personality based on career, training, and education is not realistic. So you know who a random doctor is as a human being just by finding out that they're a doctor?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:19 PM
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“Acting supportive” is doing something. So someone who acts supportive is an actor, according to you because who you are is basically what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:16 PM
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And “who you are” isn’t separate from “what you do.” Yes it is. You can be a psychopath and an evil person and spend weekends volunteering to hide from people what you really are. Honestly, some of you really go out of your way to cast yourselves as the victim. The post must've triggered you. If you're not like the women described in the post then it's not about you. But such women do exist whether you want to acknowledge it or not and pointing out that they exist doesn't mean someone is paintin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:06 PM
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Not understanding something doesn't make it babble.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:01 PM
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But you choosing that is a reflection of a combination of circumstances but also ambition/lack their of ambition. So you think every garbage collector lacks ambition? A bit of empathy would help you see that sometimes people just have challenging lives and a lack of opportunity. Interestingly, you're essentially showing that you look down on people based on what they do for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:57 PM
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But really what’s the difference between who you are vs what you do? What you do is external, who you are is internal. Being a garbage collector has nothing to do with who someone is, for example. I'm sure many women think it does which is why they wouldn't wanna date one, also because it doesn't seem like it pays well. Yes, parents love their kids Most parents don't even actually love their kids. If mothers can't even love the father of their kid for who he is, they obviously can't love his chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:24 AM
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Why would what the post says mean that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:51 AM
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The very first thing we all experience is "I wanna eat that" in a sexy way. Everything else comes afterwards. But what comes after depends on how we feel safety. And thats where the difference comes in. You're talking about sexual attraction while the post is about love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:47 AM
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But then it's super rare to find the one I love for HIM. So does that mean that its super rare for you to be in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:54 AM
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I love that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:42 AM
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I had no idea that I was Esther Vilar.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:38 AM
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Are you suggesting that people live together with someone and doesn't love who they are as a human being? Yes. This is actually the norm. Most people get into relationships out of fear of being alone, not because they genuinely live the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:32 AM
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Every time I thought I was well enough to continue I'd read a few words and start throwing up again. The truth does have that effect on people who live a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:30 AM
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Atleast how attractive a woman is has something to do with her on some level, not what she has or does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:46 AM
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You would think! But unfortunately, I've seen takes where, yes. They truly do think all women are like that! It's wild. Obviously, not all women are like that. But unfortunately, many are, which leads to some men thinking that all women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:28 AM
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Surely, it would go without saying that not all people of a particular group would behave in a way that the general collective does? Generalisations of collective behaviour dont mean literally everyone who belongs to that collective behaves that way. It just means many (enough to be able to generalise) do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:19 AM
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Did anyone actually say "all women are like this"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:16 AM
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Men are told not to simp And yet they still do, which is where my posts come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:46 AM
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Not really, hence why there's so many simps walking around. I guess they haven't read my posts yet so I must keep posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:38 AM
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You make weekly posts about simping, Someone has to. Its a thankless job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:29 AM
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This post is, indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:27 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:13 AM
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Okay, so I'm not wrong that such mothers, as described in the post, do exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:13 AM
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Somehow women overcame the social conditioning that told them to stay home and be submissive But they didn't overcome the social conditioning that told them to see men as a resource and always look for some material benefits to relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:26 PM
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I'm sure this was posted yesterday Can you show me the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:38 PM
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They might instill tenants of Patriarchy, What are those tenants, for example? Could they include men being seen as a resource to provide for women and treat them like they're special, or is that unthinkable and would never happen? but maliciously? Who said they do it maliciously?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:20 PM
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Trust me, you need this book more than I will ever need to engage with your post. How condescending. . my family actually explicitly raised me to be a resource for men Oh, so that kind of thing does happen? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:57 PM
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On some level it's true. I admit it Well, you're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:51 PM
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I think you may be trying to psychoanalyse a random person as a defense mechanism to not address the actual substance of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:50 PM
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You love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:43 PM
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That doesn't mean they can literally never change. It means the conditioning/brainwashing is so ingrained that its almost like they can't. Do you take everything you read literally?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:56 AM
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This doesn't change the mentality women have and the fact that women spend more time than men raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:56 AM
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The premise of the book is falls from the start. Again, even in 2026 what she wrote is still true. Women haven't really evolved psychologically since the book was written.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:44 AM
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That is the nature of all relationships. I don't doubt that its the nature of the relationships you personally get involved in. What the hell do you think the Red Pill is supposed to be waking you up from? I dont care about the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:42 AM
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she presumes women would „train“ men to do things What do you think parenting is about? Lets brain storm together here: what was a woman supossed to do, when she had a child with her husband? She could not work anymore, there was no childcare that would allow a job and her husband was legally able to terminate her employment, if he said she didn’t fulfill her household duties. So how exactly would she not live of her husbands income? The point is women still have the mentality described in the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:29 AM
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You think your employer, the military, or your team at school isn't choosing you solely on the basis of what they stand to gain from you? This is the same as an intimate relationship with another human being to you? We are NOT children or women who are valued just for existing. We are MEN! And being a man means you build your value, it's not something that is handed to you like a damsel. It's how respect is earned, not given. You are literally the type of man the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:26 AM
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None of what you wrote invalidates the points made in her book. In fact, what she wrote in the 70s still being true today is actually a sad commentary on women. The reason men today resonate with the book is because they've seen the behaviour and mentality discussed in the book in women they've interacted with and been with. This is true whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:14 AM
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you do understand under what Kind of circumstances she wrote that book yes? No, please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:39 AM
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If women in the west had everything then body autonomy wouldn’t be in the hands of the government. Were you saying this when covid injections were mandated?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:20 AM
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Account for the men that vote against women interests? Women also vote against women’s interests... Men that physically abuse and kill women? Being conditioned by women to serve women doesnt stop psychopaths from existing. With your logic women would be on top of the world and have everything they want. In the west they basically do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:29 AM
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Why and how would women have the power to make men collect resources for us? Why? Because women think men's role in life is to do things for them. How? Through the way children are raised and programmed by women. Why the fuck would we concoct some scheme to make men subjugate us The "subjugation" is a result of men knowing deep down that women use them and no one likes being used, even if it gives their life meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:17 AM
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You understand that the start of permanent civilizations resulted in more conflict over resources, which was fought over by MEN as they are the stronger sex, and more resources = more power. And those resources were also given to women and even today women think men's role is to provide them with resources. They even see men themselves as resources. you clearly think men are nothing more than worker ant drones. Yes, they have been programmed to be worker drones for women's benefit. you’ve proved…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:06 AM
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Women cannot be at home running the domestic sphere unless men put them there. The men they raised and conditioned... And women also raised those sons. In a different way which produced different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:32 AM
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Men are conditioned by women and men can never change because men are raised by women. Where did I say they can never change?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:31 AM
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Who created the system where mothers stay at home? Men did. Who raised and conditioned those men as children?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:19 AM
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Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:16 AM
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What does it say its impossible for men to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:14 AM
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they can’t break out of this chokehold? Most can't. Thats how social conditioning works. Also, conservative fathers, so like half the country, also tell their sons it’s his role to be a provider and to man up for his future family, etc. And who raised them from the moment they were born?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:09 AM
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What did i say is t possible for men to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:01 AM
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I think you're purposely acting like you're missing the point. Im saying men have been conditioned to find happiness in being used and seen as a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:36 AM

Its understandable that you as a woman would interpret men being used as being "needed".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:33 AM
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or they really do enjoy being needed? Like I wrote in the post, since they were children they were conditioned to find joy and purpose in being used by women. Then why aren't they taking over the parenting in order to break this (obviously) hideous cycle? Because they are still conditioned to find meaning in being seen as a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:30 AM
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Im saying women condition little boys to grow up into men who find purpose in being used by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:24 AM
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This isnt true, most cohabitating couples have both people working fulltime jobs. Because they don't have a choice. they need to decorrupt themselves and protect their children. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:23 AM
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If mothers conditioned their children to "appreciate who they are," it would incentivize the children to be complacent with their current abilities. You dont really understand child psychology. Teaching children to accept being used because otherwise "it would incentivize the children to be complacent with their current abilities" is essentially child abuse. Children's abilities dont stagnate just because they are loved for who they are by their mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:22 AM
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Because women want to be provided for, so men work to provide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:21 AM
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If women are so bad at parenting rhen maybe men should step up and be the primary parent instead. Women want to be provided for, so the man has to work while she conditions the children. . Why are these men allowing their sons to be corrupted by their mothers? Because those men were also corrupted by their mothers, thats the whole point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:17 AM
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If she's physically attracted to the low IQ man with money, she won't mind, especially if she herself doesnt have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:16 AM
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Like I said. Prostitution with extra steps Thats what marriage is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:50 AM
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Its the money. Let's be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:49 AM
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Frankly if he told reddit what the size if my tits were i wouldnt care, because reddit is completely anonymous and no one knows either of us. So you think if he knew you told people on reddit about his dick not working he wouldn't care? And is that how you behave towards people you respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:51 PM
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Lmao ok He's not wrong. Even you dont respect your temporary boyfriend thats why you told a random stranger on reddit that his dick doesnt work. Am I wrong? Did you not do that? And would you do that if you respected him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:44 PM
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I'm saying there is a small number of men who will be okay with being used by women due to low self esteem, even when sex isnt involved, but the majority wouldn't provide for (be used by) a woman they're not getting sex from, which is what you're also saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:00 AM
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again I say that the online echo chambers aren't good for people, and aren't often accurate. Again, what im saying is based on women's behaviour in the real world and their own words in the real world. Also, if a woman comes online and says something, such a woman still exists in the real world and has the same thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:58 AM
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You're actually agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:54 AM
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You must be choosing women who are like that or something. The ones who aren't like that are almost non-existent. after all most women work now so there's no reason A parasitic mentality which is almost inherent in most women is the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:52 AM
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There are men out there that find joy in providing even when they get nothing in return. Yes, they are men out there who find joy in being used by women, even if their dick low key doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:43 AM
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know you're reading a certain echo chamber about how women behave No, I'm seeing women's behaviour and listening to their own words. Just the other day I saw a video of a woman saying men are tools and their role is to provide resources for women, and many other women agreed. That woman is just the honest and loud one, while other women are more quiet about it. In reality, in my life the only (very few) women who expected paid dinners etc, were ridiculed. By who? The men they expected to pay? Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:36 AM
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Avoid the nails and lashes crew? Like I wrote in the post, even when they seem different (no lashes, nails, etc.), they generally aren't when it comes to using men. Its the one thing women of all backgrounds generally have in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:48 AM
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They used women to satisfy their dick, not because they are deep enough to feel love or have a mutually beneficial relationship Yes, because they realise that being involved with women generally means being used in some way, shape or form, so they match women's energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:46 AM
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No, i dont think i will.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:44 AM
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The way you're obsessively commenting on this post is very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:02 PM
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If there is zero reason to take me seriously, stop commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:01 PM
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Look, since you belong to the group of people being discussed in the post, I don't actually expect you to be honest and acknowledge the truth. I expect you to do exactly what youre doing now, which is purposely not getting what is being said. I keep telling you that basically all men are used as resources and you keep misquoting me saying that im saying "some men pay". This like i said, is to be expected though because you are who the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:57 PM
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The number of comments you've made on this post tells me you're taking me pretty seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:05 PM
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Do women have no agency of their own? No. This is why there's a lot of cases where women who are teachers sexually abuse students as young as 11 and they just get a slap on the wrist, if even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:03 PM
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“Men sometimes pay” I didn't say this. Who are you quoting? women only value men for resources. If even a chunk of men aren’t having your experience, it’s not universa Like I said, any man who has experience with women knows that generally they gave to "pay to play".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:02 PM
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You’re calling it “collective behaviour” to avoid looking at your own patterns. Im calling it that because that's what it actually is. If it were actually most women, all men would be having your experience. The vast majority of men know that if they don't "provide" or buy women gifts and pay for stuff, they wouldn't get laid and wouldn't have much of a dating life. Basically all men who have experience with women know this, and they have just accepted it. Some even say it's "female nature."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:28 PM
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I can make a post just like you about how all men are parasitic on women But you didn't because you know its not true. Terms like 'gold digger' exist for a reason and they are used more for women than men for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:12 PM
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I’m glad you decided to spare women from your nonsense. What nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:04 PM
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If you keep attracting the same kind of women, that requires some self reflection. It has nothing to do with what I attract and everything to do with collective female behaviour and mentality. I wish i was wrong, and the majority of women were actually genuinely interested in human connection more than resources and seeing men as tools, but thats just not how they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:26 PM
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The ones who aren't as described in the post are unfortunately the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:07 PM
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just means women from your social circle act like this. The majority of women have a parasitic mentality. Its sad but its true. At this point i genuinely think they cant help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:49 AM
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More female tactics to avoid facing the truth about themselves. You're so transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:47 AM
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Observing women's behaviour and listening to their words is how i draw my conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:59 AM
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I don't, and I can still point out how toxic women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:05 AM
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Most women are essentially gold diggers to different degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:53 AM
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Key words being authentic human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:51 AM
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Capitalism and shitty jobs dont make women pretend to care about men just to access their resources. Unless ofcourse we say women are just NPCs with no real free will, which might actually have some truth to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:50 AM
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Then dont debate 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:15 AM
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the point is it needn't be all about sex though Yeah, when you're paying someone to do a job its not about sex, unless its a blow job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:06 AM
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Or how you arrived to such a number? By observing women's behaviour and listening to what they say. Many men actually know that majority of women are like that and most of them for thousands of years have thought its because of nature rather than nurture. So while you're still asking for sources, men have known that women are like that through experience for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:00 AM
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enjoy providing for my nanny because You pay her to do a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:51 AM
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Most? Half? 1 out of 5? 80+%
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:50 AM
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Yes, thats why i stopped dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:45 AM
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i don't see what's stopping you Being an authentic human being is whats stopping me from putting clown paint on my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:44 AM
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Nothing. I leave women alone. What I know about what they actually are has made me not want to get involved with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:43 AM
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This is just another way women avoid facing the truth about themselves. Unfortunately for you, it doesnt work on me. What I said is still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:41 AM
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Most women work and earn a living Thats what makes it even worse. Their own money and resources aren't enough, they want men's resources as well and they will pretend to love and care about them to get their resources. Its amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:35 AM
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but i wear makeup and dress up simply because it's a requirement of my job I'm sure thats the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:33 AM
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it makes the parasite allegations kind of hilarious. But it doesnt make them untrue. It actually just means women take advantage of sad men when they're at their lowest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:31 AM
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Pick better women There aren't that many.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:30 AM
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so why do you want to have kids? I don't. Also, atleast children have a legitimate excuse, unlike adult women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:23 AM
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"What value do other human beings of a different gender than me have besides what they can do for me?", this is essentially what you're asking, and it is the question of a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:21 AM
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Using the term "Parasite" implies frustration because it is obviously hyperbolic. I used the word parasitic, which is a metaphor for a person who takes without giving anything in return. By definition a parasite must be a different species from the host. I guess you dont know what a metaphor is. Also, the word used is "parasitic".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:19 AM
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Most men wouldnt be down for it, Exactly. but that doesnt mean that they dont exist. Even women wouldn't respect such men. They would actually take advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:07 AM
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This is true but getting upset about it is the wrong approach. Pointing out something isnt the same as being upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:04 AM
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I don't need to have a monopoly on determining what femininity is to know that its not about wearing makeup and being self obsessed. If you think it is then i feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:03 AM
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Some men genuinely like providing for their partners. Because they know that without that, the woman won't like them. Remove sex from the picture, how many men do you think would "genuinely like" providing for their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:02 AM
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Why is wearing makeup or taking care of your appearance parasitic? I didnt say thats the parasitic part. I said it's what many women think femininity is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:00 AM
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Women aren't motivated by just wanting to fuck like men are. Who said they are? Also, real men are interested in more than just sex. If your relationship is dependent on you opening doors and paying, its not a real relationship. These are the kind of relationships simps are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:12 AM
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Because she's not going to be in a relationship with you if you never do anything nice for her. So your way to keep women in relationships with you is to hold doors open for them and pay for stuff otherwise they won't be with you? Sounds like a genuine relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:52 AM
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That's picking your battles lol How is that picking your battles? Why would holding a door for a woman be picking your battles? They get friendzoned perpetually. Many sinps are in relationships and get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:13 AM
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How is he competition then? Its not about competition. Its about the majority of men being simps in some way, shape or form, which then influences women's behaviour and approach to dating. Also, its likely that since you're a woman, what i see as simp behaviour isnt necessarily what you'll see as simp behaviour so even women you say don't want simps, from my perspective of what a simp is, many of them still get with simps. For example, you may think a man who opens doors for women and pulls out …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:20 PM
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They are men that other women aren't interested in, This isn't true. There are many men in relationships who are also simps. and these women who like simps aren't interesting to men who aren't interested in simping. Most women like simps if they are physically attractive because they're easy to manipulate and use for resources and other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:49 AM
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treat women with respect and as an equal human like you would your mates This isn't what boys are taught. They are essentially taught to put women on a pedestal and treat them like they're special.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:36 AM
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Yes, I hate everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:15 AM
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and think that’s what all women do I never said all women do it. I said its a real thing that happens, which is true. Women who use men are basically on a spectrum. There are those who go on dates primarily for free meals, these are usually on apps like tinder. And then there are those who are interested in the man they're on a date with but if he doesnt pay, they stop liking him, and then there are ones who dont care about who pays, and these are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:14 AM
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I can't imagine being a simp either, but simps still exist 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:20 PM
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But those compliments aren’t making women refuse dates. That's not what's being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:48 PM
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Also if men stopped "simping" all the issues with dating would just get worse. Well, atleast we agree that simps act in a way that affects the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:45 PM
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Women are not pretending to be all over a man for the price of a $8 latte or cocktail lol. You'd be surprised. Some women go on dates just for a free meal. This is a real thing that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:33 PM
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the interest has already been reciprocated. In what way? Saying yes to a free meal? Plenty of women do offer AND pay for their share of the date The minority do. Not the majority, and if they do offer, they only offer to pay for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:25 PM
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Redpill men see what they want to see. I'm not a "redpill man", but I'll just say purple pill women don't see what they don't want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:23 PM
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Just out of curiosity, who do you think would fund and conduct such a study?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:18 PM
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Men being chivalrous, men paying for dates, has nothing to do with simping. Its part of simping. at least offer to pay for the date, is not an unrealistic expectation. Why don't women offer to pay even for themselves and actually mean it? The answer is that the behaviour of simps has made them think that they dont need to. Even the ones that offer to pay for themselves only do it so that the man will insist to pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:16 PM
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They can’t get attention in IRL or in dating apps, so simping is their only way for that Which makes them the problem because they will do ridiculous things to get female attention, and if a lot of men act that way, they will start thinking thats how men should act towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:12 PM
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On the contrary, the majority of women do in fact get simps. Being a simp is a spectrum and most men are on it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:04 PM
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Women are the CEO's of online dating and men are the employees. The fact is no one actually has to be an employee. You apply for a job. The employer doesnt come to you asking you to work. Women have more value because there are less of them There are over 4 billion women in the world, and there are about 8 billion people in the world. So no, there aren't less of them in any meaningful way. while the employees(men) make pennies on the dollar. This is the simp mentality the post is about. Read the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:01 PM
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If you hate women, go your own way like you guys are always threatening. How does saying men jump through hoops for sex equate to hating women? Thats just an emotional response from someone who cant address what is being said. It's doesnt work on me. You can call me an incel, misogynist or whatever. I don't care. I'm still not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:55 AM
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I don't think you understand the point of this sub. Either engage with the content of the post or don't bother commenting at all. They'll post is days old anyway, so why even bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:59 AM
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Just don't date women like that Thanks, I hadn't thought about that. What a great and insightful addition to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:11 AM
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Its like you can't understand the concept of making observations about human behaviour in general without it being personal. You seem like the kind of person who thinks just because someone makes a post about simps, that must mean he's a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:10 AM
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The first question asked told me that answering the questions asked by the person is a waste of time. Secondly, the post is about observations of human behaviour as a whole, not about me personally otherwise I wouldn't make the post if it was about me personally because what would be the point? I personally make it a point to split the bill on dates to weed out women with a parasitic mentality so the question doesnt apply to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:54 PM
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Because asking if I'm dating strippers is a dumb question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:42 PM
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I LOVE how you completely ignored the first comment and only replied to someone replying to it. I LOVE that you love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:18 PM
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Attractive men don’t have hoops, women sexually throw themselves at him lol Again, being attractive doesnt stop men from being simps. Its a mentality and has little to do with physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:00 PM
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I need you to show me where I said being nice is jumping through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:50 PM
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The only NPC response is from you No, the one saying the "sweet summer child" line repeated by condescending NPCs is clearly the NPC. and those men don’t have to jump through hoops AT ALL!! Being attractive doesn't stop a man from being a simp. Unfortunately, you seem to lack the ability to understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:43 PM
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I don't get why NPCs say this condescending shit. Atleast be creative to stand out from other NPCs. The reality is most men, regardless of looks jump through hoops when dealing with women. Robotic NPC responses don't change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:28 PM
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If they are paying for dates and going on dates that's dating. I had no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:27 PM
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Men who value a woman are more than willing to go the extra mile. Do women go the extra mile? If so, in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:26 PM
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Be an attractive man and there are no hoops, it’s chads world out there Even attractive men jump through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:25 PM
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Where does it say being nice is jumping through hoops? Why are you clowning yourself like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:24 PM
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That's debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:42 AM
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Interesting. Can you quote where I said it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:32 AM
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Even attractive men still jump through hoops. Being attractive doesn't stop men from being simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:22 AM
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Who said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:06 AM
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If you're not jumping through hoops then the post isnt about you. Its literally about a context where men are having to jump through hoops. If that doesnt apply to you, why involve yourself? Does the post say all men, or even most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:04 AM
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No sane and intelligent person thinks thats what "hoops" is referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:02 AM
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Again, just because children think something is worth it doesnt mean it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:58 AM
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Sex with a person you are deeply connected and attracted to is the best thing ever. If you're so deeply connected, why would you have to jump through hoops?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:47 AM
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No, i didnt. They dont have to do it but they still do it because they're simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:47 AM
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Like the first sentence of the post says (did you read it?), men dont actually have to jump through hoops to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:35 AM
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You've decided for them that it's not worth it It isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:21 AM
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I do think sex is a prize. Something that can be paid for cannot be a prize. Only women and simps see it as a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:20 AM
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And yes, you don't just get to invade someone's personal space and body simply because you're interested. If the other person is willing, yes, you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:19 AM
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No, they aren't. They're just things women use simps for to satisfy their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:17 AM
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Why not let men decide? Who is stopping them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:16 AM
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Saying “the post addresses it” is not a rebuttal. It just restates the framing. I'm not trying to give a "rebuttal". I'm simply responding to what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:15 AM
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—men are responding to what gets results. Obviously. The post addresses this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:33 AM
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is not some free choice Read the quote at the end of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:09 AM
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men are just choosing this for no reason misses how the incentives are set up. They choose it to get laid. That's what im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:47 AM
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Many men jump through hoops and still get laid. Its how they get laid. This is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:46 AM
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Exactly bro. You gotta know that you're the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:31 AM
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It applies to many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:30 AM
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Similarly you need sex to have post nut clarity to see the hoops aren’t worth it but you have to jump through the hoops to get sex to have post nut clarity. There are other ways to get post nut clarity... So are you just going to give up on sex or pay for it since you don’t think jumping through the hoops is worth it? Like the first sentence of the post says, men dont actually have to jump through hoops to get sex. Also, every man basically pays for it, either directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:07 AM
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Who are you to decide that for other people? I'm the guy who decides it for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:27 AM
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That doesn't mean they are. It just means those men are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:10 AM
-5

Why does your opinion have any relevance to anyone else. I don't know. But I know if it had no relevance you wouldn't even validate it by commenting on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:09 AM
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Or some guys think those hoops are worth getting sex anyways. But they arent, thats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:58 AM
0

What point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:55 AM
0

This really comes off as very much whining, blaming all women for everything, How is the post blaming women for anything? feeling as though you have no worth other than an ATM? Many women do use men as an atm. It has nothing to do with me personally because I don't allow women to use me that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:54 AM
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Thats why the first sentence of the post says "obviously men dont have to jump through hoops".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:37 AM
-1

every relationship of every type has some hoops. So then you know what those hoops are, so why ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:37 AM
1

It's not disrespectful when I pay my doctor to provide a service he's more qualified than me to provide. I guess it all depends on if you want an actual relationship or a business transaction where payment is a major part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:16 PM
1

So don't say it'll be easy to find a relationship I didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:00 AM
1

Which is why only idiots get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:24 AM
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The reality is that many women unfortunately do have an extractive mentality when it comes to relationships with men. Denial doesn't change reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:23 AM
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If there is payment required, she's a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:40 AM
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I mean, if the guy gets sex, and she gets money, it's still a win-win. Yeah, i guess prostitution is a win-win. But we still need to point out the issues with a man who would choose to date a prostitute, especially if its a thing many men are doing and they end up having children with those prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:03 PM
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They dont have to randomly tell me. Any man who has the slightest experience dating women knows its better to just pay, which is why its usually men who pay on dates, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:18 PM
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Some of us really do NOT want partners paying for us. Yes, the minority are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:24 PM
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I don't know a single man or woman who confirm that if a man doesn't pay on a first date they won't be interested. Why would they just randomly tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:20 PM
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It really isn’t. You dont date women as a man, so you wouldn't know. If you’re attracting users then clearly something about you is attractive to users. "If you're attracting abusers clearly something about you is attractive to abusers". Thats basically what you're saying and its ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:19 PM

Are you not capable of being a good companion? Are you not capable of reading whats actually written?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:18 PM
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Women do not think this is true And yet its the experience of many men with women. For instance, most men know that if you want a woman to remain interested in you on the first date, you have to pay. Not paying decreases her interest. This applies to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:17 PM
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Calling the truth about something a sad view doesnt change the fact that its true. The fact that you feel the need to comment and label the view 'sad' or 'desperate' (which doesn't even make sense) tells me it hits close to home. Otherwise, you'd just ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:07 PM
0

Okay, thats a great addition to the debate. Thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:00 PM
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Why bother asking. Just tell yourself i'm whatever gender satisfies you. Anyway, did you have a point or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:57 AM
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It doesnt matter. My gender won't change how true what's being said is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:51 AM
1

Yeah man stop caring then the population would decline even further I see no problem with that. There are too many idiots on earth. If more men care less than going to have a hard time finding relationships occurring. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:19 AM
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Like you for you”. Not how it works buddy For men with self respect it is. Why would any sane man be with a woman who doesnt like him for who he is? That's sad and pathetic. Its better to be single. Its like millionaire choosing to be with a bum who uses him for money. That would be a sign of insanity and a lack of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:14 AM
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men are basically these dumbasses Many are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:08 AM
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guy paying for a date ultimately isn’t that big a deal only when we are broke then it’s tough At a certain point , when you have self-respect, you start wanting to be with women who like you for you, not because you pay for stuff. Even a millionaire with self respect wouldn't want to date a woman where he has to pay otherwise she won't like him. Being broke has nothing to do with it. Saying it does just makes you feel good for allowing yourself to be used by women who couldn’t give a shit about …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:05 AM
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Detatch yourself from the desire. Then go out and fuck bitches. This sounds like something the Buddha would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:48 PM
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As long as men cannot give birth, they will be in the position of catering to women I think you should reread the quote at the end of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:46 PM
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And thus, if they don't get laid they hate their apartment, clothes, and job and environment. This is so true. If most men can't get laid, they will end up hating life. Ironically, Buddhist monks who choose to be celibate are more at peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:44 PM
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Yes, and its still a trap. I didnt say it was a trap created by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:39 AM
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Thanks, that's really good advice that I hadn't thought of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:41 AM
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If you feel sex is a trap, there's anger/upset at something. Or maybe sex is just a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:32 AM
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It's all a trap to keep you upset and angry at women. I'm neither upset nor angry at women. This is another trap. No, its the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:19 AM
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No, I'm posting because what I'm saying is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:11 AM
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Thinking that sex is a trap is a trap How is it a trap? Putting up with nonsense aka not having boundaries is a trap. Many men have boundaries and still put up with nonsense because it's almost inevitable when dealing with the average woman. Quoting dear old dead Esther is a trap. In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:54 AM
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This literally sounds like something that someone who can’t get laid would say. Okay, thanks for your intelligent addition to the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:32 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:19 AM
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I'm sure there are men that actually enjoy being providers Yes, because sex is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:10 AM
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You gotta start being more creative than just throwing around the word incel when you dont agree with something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:03 AM
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A provider is more of a relationship role than anything. Do you actually think a man would provide for another adult who happens to be a woman if sex was removed from the picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:01 AM
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Without this "programming" humans would be extinct... I don't see a problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:43 AM
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have both feminine and masculine qualities about me but I don't care about labels. So the post isnt about you then. It says "many women" not all women. It doesn't even say most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:42 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:28 AM
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it’s what men themselves say and also do But it's not what im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:40 PM
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that all translates into serving when it’s applied to women from men’s perspective In your warped view, yes. But not in mine. What's happening here is you're projecting based on your own issues with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:17 AM
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You are confused. Being kind, open, caring and so on isnt being submissive. This is you projecting your own garbage onto what I said. I didnt even use the word serving. You did. Also, receptivity has nothing to do with submissiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:05 AM
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it’s a social construct. No, masculinity and femininity arent social constructs, they are energies that actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:03 AM
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Quote where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:02 AM
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So a woman who is "providing or fostering an environment that is conducive to growth and development" isnt being caring? Very interesting. How can she do that without caring?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:02 AM
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Unnecessarily condescending. Just say you disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:44 AM
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Nurture is providing or fostering an environment that is conducive to growth and development That is being caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:44 AM
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Even the truth won't convince everyone, but just think about it logically. Things have to have an objective meaning otherwise anyone could just say its whatever they want and they would lose meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:31 AM
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Nurturing is being kind and caring 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:24 AM
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It encourages men to be competitive and put each other down. Just because many men think that's what it is doesn't mean that's what it actually is. Just like how some women think being feminine means being passive, that doesn't mean that's what it actually is. Femininity from a men’s perspective We're talking about what it actually objectively is, not what it is from men's perspective. Femininity and masculinity mean something different to everyone. Yes, but they also have an objective meaning i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:22 AM
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Just say you dont know what femininity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:05 AM
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What a pathetic definition that doesn’t even make sense.. Your inability to understand something doesn't mean it objectively doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:04 AM
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we just reserve it for the most attractive men. This is just not true. Femininity isnt something you turn on and off. You either are truly feminine or you aren't. Its like a man saying "we reserve masculinity for attractuve women". Its just pure nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:03 AM
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Femininity is an energy not a gender. And all humans have both masculine and feminine energy which is why anyone can exhibit these behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:57 AM
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Apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:10 AM
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You're telling women they dont know what femininity is Many of them dont 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:46 AM
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This is a well thought out comment but it still doesnt change the reality that many women dont really know what femininity is and its just perfomative for them. Your comment is more about masculinity than femininity while the post is about femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:42 AM

I know what authenticity actually is Apparently not. Saying wearing makeup is authentic is just nonsense. But i know youre essentially addicted to it so you have to rationalise that to yourself because you also want to believe you're authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:16 AM
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Not if you know what authenticity actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:11 AM
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Makeup comes in all kinds of applications. It's still not authentic. It can't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:46 AM
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Someone can wear makeup because that them is being authentic and open and receptive to other make up enthusiasts By its very nature, makeup is not authentic. Your real face without cosmetics is authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:07 AM
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So, what is your definition of femininity, from a man's perspective? Its receptivity, openness, kindness, being generous and giving and being authentic and caring. Some of that is shown in makeup, No, inner qualities cannot be shown in makeup. Its basically a mask. receiving the gift of someone else paying for a date, etc. This has nothing to do with femininity either. Anyone can "receive the gift of someone else paying for a date", even women who are toxic and not truly feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:51 PM
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Except i didnt tell them what femininity is... Even if i did, being masculine doesn't mean you can't understand what femininity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:11 PM
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This isn't actually countering what I said. It's just reactive. You just read the title and chose to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:07 PM
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It’s pretty obvious that your intent was to be inflammatory. Again, the words that triggered you were written by a woman, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:37 AM
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.. If you are just going to agree with it then why does it matter a woman said it? Your initial response made it seem like I'm the one who said it. What kind of morons do you think send death threats to people over a book that has 0 reputable or scientific backing? Well, it actually happened so 🤷‍♂️ Most normal women probably just ignored how provocative her book was Most women who read it or even quotes from it are very triggered by it. because who in their right mind would stunt their own inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:14 AM
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She was right though, which why is why she got death threats from women after writing the book the quote is from. This was in the 70s so they had to put in a lot of effort too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:21 AM
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The majority of couples do have problems. They are inevitable, especially since most relationships are transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:04 AM
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No one is being scolded. Are you a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:02 AM
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The part you quoted was written by a woman, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:02 AM
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That's how many are. I simply view them how they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:56 AM
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You can’t just sit in your living room and expect it to come to you. No shit. The point is that it happens naturally without force.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:25 AM
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Or just be an adult who isn't parasitic and pay for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:18 AM
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What are expecting here? Nothing. Keep scrolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:13 AM
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You're supposed to ignore the post and keep scrolling if you dont want to engage. Its pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:08 AM
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Okay, if you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:07 AM
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Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I thought this was a debate sub. My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:01 AM
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Thats not actually addressing what is being said. It's like if I were to say what you're saying screams feminist. Who cares? Just address the point being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:00 AM
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think what you’re saying you want here and what you’re saying you want in your original post are opposing ideas. So no wonder. My original post isnt about what I want. Did you even read it? You want traditional gender roles, no? No, try reading my post and my responses to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:54 AM
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as a woman) I don’t get it. I know. You'll only get it if you date women as a man. Men like you often want No, i dont want what you think i want at all. I want a woman with intelligence, agency, can think for herself and doesnt date based on money, material things and having her things paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:46 AM
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Dating women as a woman isnt the same as dating women as a man. 2 women going on a date is essentially 2 people with a parasitic mentality going on a date, whereas a man going on a date with a woman means one person is going on a date with a person who has a parasitic mentality. Its not the same dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:27 AM
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It really isnt. Its sad that women are still at this mental level. Even men who hate women still pay on dates because they know women get upset when you dont pay. Almost every man knows the best thing to do is to pay. Its like seeing a prostitute and not paying. Its obviously not going to result in what the man wants to happen. Do you think when Andrew Tate was recruiting women to work for him he wouldn't pay for dates he recruited them on? Its sad that adult women actually think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:23 AM
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Well….untrue. So do you study human behaviour? If so, what have you learnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:37 AM
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Someone who had studied human behaviour would not make that statement. You don't know that because you don't study human behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:30 AM
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and just expect it to fall into your lap. Genuine love does almost just fall in your lap. You don't have to try or put in alot of effort for it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:27 AM
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It is women in general. Where you live is one of the few exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:26 AM
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How would you know what most relationships are like? Because human behaviour isn't that different and I've worked as a counsellor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:25 AM
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Well, yeah it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:24 AM
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wait, no. fist explain how opening doors is beneficial for me. Tell me how it isnt beneficial and why men would do it if it isnt and then tell me why you dont open doors for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:23 AM
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Not from my position Maybe your relationship is the exception thats all sunshine and rainbows with no fights and drama but most relationships arent like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:22 AM
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If a man paying for your date isnt beneficial to you, why do you let him do it? Why not insist on paying for him since its of no benefit or loss to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:21 AM
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The standard in my country is to go Dutch Then it comes down to where you live rather than what women beyond where you live are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:20 AM
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Its not really "letting" him. If you're like most women, if he didn't pay, you would stop liking him. It's like saying that men opening doors is a benefit. It is, thats why they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:09 AM
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We all pay for ourselves on dates. All you actually know is you pay for yourself (if youre actually being honest), but you dont really know what other women do. Read the comment of the woman who responded to your comment for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:07 AM
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I know that even women with money expect men to pay. So you dont need me to answer for the statement I made. But it's hardly a material benefit. Its a monetary benefit. And its actually kind of sad and embrassing for women like this considering how historically women have had no choice but to be financially dependent on men, and now they choose to be dependent, even though they have the money to be equals and just have a genuine connection that doesn't consider payment in whatever form.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:05 AM
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Like I said, you dont date women so your perspective on this isnt complete.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:02 AM
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Like what?? This is a question to ask other women. Pretending like many women dont look for material and monetary benefits from being involved with men is disingenuous and no serious person actually believes it. stop dating poor ass women?? You dont get it, which is understandable since I assume you dont date women. Even women with money expect men to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:55 AM
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Being in love and dating, marrying and making love is fantastic fun. Sure, but its overrated. And its not all sunshine and rainbows either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:53 AM
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You can't say dating is fun and overrated. Something can both be fun and overrated. Like video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:35 AM
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If I don't work as a babysitter, someone else will. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:26 PM
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Bad: doesn't care about women yet goes on dates. What does this say about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:25 PM
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My approach is to give them my number. If they text me then that's great. If not then it doesn't even matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:44 PM
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I agree that not caring what women think is great. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. Nobody who is a doormat can just simply change their outlook and develop a self identity to get there. This is like saying "people with money problems need to just become millionaires then it will be easier". That is the end goal, not the process, its not advice. Then what would you say to advice them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:40 PM
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They dont have agency either. They're just NPCs like all other men. They've just found a different approach that appeals to female NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:06 PM
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Don't even reach out; let them put in the effort. Exactly. This is what men need to start doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:03 PM
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It sounds like you agree with the post but you just didnt wanna say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:52 PM
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So you double down and say that having agency means you're bad? Wait, so in this instance, are you saying the so called "bad boys" have agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:51 PM
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Just because the blind can't see a picture, that doesnt mean it hasn't been painted accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:31 PM
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Who does "society" tell men they are? Who are they really? From your perspective, who do think it tells men they are? the prevailing view was that black people were inferior; this was flat-out incorrect. Exactly. The point im making is what society tells you you are is never who you truly are. Most black people in the south were told that they were slaves This is part of what the social conditioning im talking about is about. But even so, there were committed abolitionists like Robert Carter who…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:29 PM
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Exactly. Society telling you who you are doesn't mean that its actually who you are. What do you think 18th century America was telling black people they were? Was it true?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:37 AM
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The terms "bad boys" and "nice guys" aren't literal. They're pointing to specific types of behaviour. It doesnt mean that people who fall under the "bad boy," banner are actually moraly bad human beings and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:34 AM
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What do you think it is? Its what tells you who you are and what you should think and believe. Its why women in Afghanistan believe in Islam even though its used to oppress them and limit their rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:31 AM
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Yeah, but that doesn't mean the desire to have sex with that person should dictate your ability to reason and use logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:07 AM
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If a woman you like said she loved you for yourself, would you ask her this question or would you just know what she meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:06 AM
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In your understanding, what do you think social conditioning is? Do you think its real or its a made up thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:05 AM
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This is why women like men with an opinion and character more that spineless guy who try to guess what to say to please them. The doesn't mean first are "bad" and second are "good". It means first have some personality, and the second is just spineless. You literally just described the difference between so-called "bad boys" and "nice guys". You actually agree with my post but you just didn't want to say it for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:04 AM
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You can't just put physical attraction to a woman aside, it's literally required for sustaining an erection, which is required for ejaculation, which is required for conception, which is required for the production of humanity itself. You can when you're not having sex with her, which is what the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:00 AM
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So do you think its worth not being yourself just so some girl will like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:59 AM
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Nice guys” and “bad boys” (are you 12 years old?) Those terms were in quotation marks for a reason 🤦 This comment makes me feel like the rest of your comment isnt even worth responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:57 AM
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For the same reason that most people dont know who they are; social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:43 AM
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I literally make twice as much as my partner. This doesn't change the point being made. Its like saying you pay for men on dates and then acting like it's the norm for women to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:34 AM
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Men who like women don't measure romance in only money. This is amazing coming from someone belonging to a group of people who base their feelings towards men on money and whether or not men spend it on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:40 AM
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I didn't downvote you...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:02 AM
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Most people just want their next easy dopamine hit. Drama, sports, tv, movies, video games, fashion, pop culture, etc. Yes, this is true. Maybe i notice it more in women because im attracted to them and so i talk to them more, but either way, I have noticed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:13 PM
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The majority of students studying political science, philosophy, the arts, literature and law are women. This (if its even true) doesnt mean that the majority of women are interested in talking about topics like philosophy. They aren't, and there's is no point in pretending they are. To talk to most women, a man who is interested in such topics actually has to make a conscious effort to keep the conversation very basic otherwise the average woman just won't be able to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:05 PM
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Well, at least we agree that such women exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:55 PM
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Do you think that only men find these topics appealing? Generally, women tend to not be interested in topics like philosophy and other things that dont have to do with them directly. Most times I've had a semi interesting conversation with a woman it was because I brought up the topic, and they generally dont really have anything insightful to add to it, regardless of their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:50 PM
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It’s so obvious you’ve never actually taken the time to ask women about their interests. I have, that's how I reached my conclusions. Women are as complex and interesting as men This sounds nice and all but in the real world, is it actually true? the fact that you believe the personalities of half of the population are essentially worthless is pretty telling. I never used the word worthless, you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:38 PM
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Just say you don’t like women. This is just you coping with an unpleasant reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:35 PM
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If the goal of dating is a healthy sustainable relationship Thats not really the goal for a lot of women, which is why they approach relationships from a self-centred perspective all about a man catering to them, paying for stuff and "providing".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:15 PM
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You wildly misunderstand women if you think having a boyfriend who hates you for who you really are is some kind of prize. It may not be some kind of prize but it gives women way more options than they would have if men judged them based on personality and character.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:07 PM
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It’s still would be wild for someone to admit out loud. No one actually admits it out loud. Pretending men with options don’t respond to vitality is odd because it’s untrue. Who is pretending this and when? you gotta as a woman have something beyond looks going for you. Many don't, unfortunately. Thats the whole point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:20 AM
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Admitting you don’t care about personality or character for relationships is wild. It's like you dont understand the idea of making observations about general human behaviour and writing about it without it being personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:13 AM
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if you think that women's personalities are interchangeable Who said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:59 AM
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Pay attention to their personality. I do, hence the post. What are you doing the other 23 hours and 30 minutes with the person you are supposed to spend your life with? Talking about the reality show she watched or whatever vapid nonsense she wants to talk about, i guess. Thats what many relationships actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:04 AM
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even fat and ugly women get men Do you think its possible that women you see as ugly are actually attractive in some way to the men they get with or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:02 AM
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I'm saying that due to the lack of personality and character development, their looks end up being the best thing about them. I dont like it either, but that's how it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:01 AM
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What a sad way to look at relationships. Its not how I look at relationships. Im just pointing out that the best part of many women is how they look. Once a man starts paying attention to their personality and character, they become unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:57 AM
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Well, technically, they do like the best part about them, which is how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:50 AM
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Thats not luck. For many women it is because if men focused on personality, those women would not have as much "success" dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:43 AM
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but a couple yes Its definitely a lot more than a couple. It's well over 50%, especially the younger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:40 AM
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Men should pay more attention to the personality of their partners then they would stop complaining about boring gold diggers. The point im making is women are actually lucky that men dont pay as much attention to personality because women would have less options if they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:38 AM
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I would argue it’s an inner misogyny that sees woman as unequal to men The sad reality is that many women dont actually mind being seen as unequal as long as they get provided for in some way, shape, or form. just anything thin and pretty will do The point im making is if men were to start thinking beyond this and started valuing personality and character more, women would have alot less options. So this actually works out in their favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:35 AM
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Swap the sexes and you could make the same argument So do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:38 AM
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you get treated how you deserve Would you say this to people in abusive relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:43 AM
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I just don't see the point You don't need to see the point of everything. Also, if you dont see the point then dont engage. Let those who do see the point or want to join the discussion do so, and you go comment on posts that you see the point of. Or better yet, you can even make your own post. but I don't relate to evangelizing it Then dont. Who cares? If the point is to find the companion you do want, however... Why would the point of a reddit post be to find a companion? What sense does that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:57 AM
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If women want to be paid for, that's what they want. If men just want a place to 'stick it', that's what they want Obviously. That doesnt mean that behaviour shouldn't be analysed or critiqued. If a man wants to marry a woman who does literally everything he says and stays home all the time with no friends, thats what he wants. But does this mean that behaviour shouldn't be commented on? Who cares if women on this sub say they wouldn't date a man who doesn't pay for them on dates when neither of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:36 AM
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It does make sense because males are fighting for their own DNA to be passed on through offspring. Nature wants men's DNA to be passed on, so it doesn't make sense to make men more attracted to women than women are to them. Obviously as a result of social conditioning and women's sexuality being repressed, men end up wanting women more than women want them. But it's not natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:34 AM
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No actually they need to have lower standards. They are already very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:20 AM
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In a way, yes. If we're talking about nature, it would make no sense for nature (which is all about reproduction) to make men want women more than women want them because that would lead to less reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:19 AM
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It sounds like you dont actually want men to have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:06 AM
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Quite a few women spend very high amounts of money on fashion and personal beauty compared to men, which is why they expect men to pay. So random men should pay for women's personal fashion and beauty choices? Is that logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:16 PM
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Men raised their standards now what? What do you think will be the result? Raise your standards and find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:37 PM
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men rised their standards magically, now what? Did you raise your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:36 PM
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my point is that it's not how standards are created That doesn't matter. I can still say men should have standards, and maybe men who have self-respect who read this post will reflect on that and start having higher standards. But that's not the point of the post. It's just like if I made a post saying men should stop objectifying women. Such a post isn't going to stop men from objectifying women, but it still needs to be said. but because it's not morally correct they don't talk about it. What …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:28 AM
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Like do they care about her being kind, or generous? The post is essentially implying that they should care, which seems like something you should support. Stupid is to force it onto men A reddit post isnt forcing anything on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:02 AM
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) Usually when i see men talking about standards, they try to create them from the notion what is good, or in some form of competition with women (ah, you don't like short guys, then i don't like fat girls. You don't like fat guys too? i need to invent something, so i will have at least as many standards as you). The thing is men already have standards, and some kind of wish for them too, but don't formulate them, because none of you talk about what's important for you actually. And until you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:03 AM
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So we end up in a situation where the only demographic of man that can have any form of standards is chad. You don't have to be Chad to have standards. Also, having standards and not being thirsty actually makes you more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:22 AM
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Men do need to learn to filter for themselves at some point and not be filter. Yeah, just like how women have "shit tests" for men, men need to start having shit tests for women to balance things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:19 AM
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This is you just externalising your power.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:22 AM
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no it isn't. A child won't necessarily find something that adults find insightful to be insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:31 AM
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Are you suggesting that your perspective is the authority on all men? In this instance, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:16 PM
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No, because those men want to. Yes, just like how men who see sex workers pay them because they want to. Payment is part of the arrangement, and if the man doesn't pay, there is no date. So yes, of course those men pay because they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:03 PM
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I wouldn't go on a date with a man who wasn't going to pay. I know, thats my point. In my experience, men paid because they wanted to. Yes, because they know many women have this parasitic mentality: I wouldn't go on a date with a man who wasn't going to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:23 PM
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and that men should have more self-respect and stop just sticking with the first woman who says yes to them. Men need to collectively raise their standard. I've actually said this in many of my posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:14 PM
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Yes, and stop stroking women's egos for just existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:08 PM
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Sucking a penis doesn't require skills. It actually kinda does. Not all women are good at it. And yes, a man who is good at sex is a quality I look for. Sucking nipples is not a skill. One can still be bad at sex while good at sucking because any man can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:49 PM
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That wasn't my experience with men who paid for first dates. It wasn't your experience that they paid for their own reasons? Not every man thinks like you. You dont need to think like me to be a man who knows that with women, its best to just pay. Going on dates is now using men? Going on dates where if the man doesn't pay you wont like it is using men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:47 PM
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Well, I guess I've always dated "weak men" because they all paid for first dates. Most men pay because they know that if they don't, it decreases their chances at sex or a second date. Its basically a transaction. Obviously women who use men don't need my approval. Why would they? They don't even really care about the men they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:42 PM
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Clit. Tits. Does this require skill thats hard to find in men to the point where it's a quality in men you look for?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:39 PM
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Your post and responses are NOT insightful. I disagree. Look how many times you need to use the word “if” 👀 What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:31 PM
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Well then most men are entitled because this is the default in the home. Maybe they are but I'm not attracted to men so I don't have to deal with their kind of entitlement. I think people should have whatever expectations they want, and find the person who is compatible with them. I agree. But like I also said, if someone is not generous but wants to date generous people, they shouldn't expect people who can see through this to not comment on it. The oldest religious beliefs that say men should …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:24 PM
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So then are the men entitled when they default to expecting the women to generously do most the domestic chores, caregiving, and primary role in parenting? Yes. These have always been the default gender roles, it’s nothing new. Where do you think these gender roles came from?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:15 PM
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Well, your post is dumb No, its actually very insightful. we’re all seeking things we don’t possess to some degree. Yes, but if you're selfish and you're looking for a selfless man, I'm going to point out the lack of self-awareness in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:12 PM
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No it's not. Okay, if you insist. you would find out that many of them prefer to split Not only have I talked to women about this, but I've also had experiences on dates where they were upset I didnt pay even though she also enjoyed the date because they're used to men doing it. Like I said, maybe women are different where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:10 PM
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Breasts and vulvas respond to suction just as much And this requires skill that's hard to find, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:07 PM
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The post is talking about human qualities of the character, not physical body parts or material things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:01 PM
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The example of women being less financially generous on dates. Its a good example. It shows the kind of entitlement some women have, which is a result of their egos getting stroked and being catered to. It also shows how these kinds of women value generosity in others while not actually being generous themselves, because they have a problem even paying for themselves, let alone someone else. Sex, yeah? Yes, which is why they stroke their egos. Don't you get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:59 PM
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There absolutely is suction involved in other forms of sexual oral contact. Like what for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:52 PM
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So then why’d you use that example? What example? People will stroke your ego if they’re trying to get something out of you. Thats the point. Don't you think there is something men want from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:46 PM
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It's not hard to find women who are okay splitting dates. For many men it is, which is why most just choose to pay because they know it increases their chances of getting laid and of dating more women in general. If you're a man but aren't aware of this then you just aren't aware in general, or maybe women where you live are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:43 PM
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It's not really sucking but more like licking so you're not really making the point you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:40 PM
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Wanting someone to perform a certain role doesn’t necessarily come from hypocritical beliefs. The point I'm making is that the entitlement alot of men face when dealing with women is due to society and simps stroking women's egos just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:38 PM
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That's not what the person who said that meant, otherwise she would have said so to try to insult me just like you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:36 PM
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My "mindset" can only bother you if you are the kind of woman being described in the post. It didn't say all women were as described, so you identifying with the women being written about is a choice you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:34 PM
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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:55 AM
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What I should’ve said is don’t date women. But then they'd be missing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:54 AM
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I don't really think you understand what's written in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:29 AM
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You just chase women. I dont chase women at all, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:28 AM
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Yes, I want my partner to cover my weaknesses. So if your weakness is being self-centred and not being generous, you want a generous and selfless man? but many don't as it would make it harder for them to find someone. Which is why i said most men aren't honest with women, which is why many women remain lacking self-awareness and self-development.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:52 AM
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Stroking a woman ego has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with it. Women will even accept being slaves if their egos are stroked well enough. They just have to be told they'll be taken care of and provided for and they'll not only accept being slaves but they will actually enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:50 AM
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If you can’t afford to take a woman out just say so. Thats not even the point. You're actually proving my point here and you dont even see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:32 AM
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we are born to with the genetics we have through zero choice. Genetics don't make people approach relationships from a self-centred, entitled and extractive way. It's a choice. Men lie to get sex Which is also a choice and has nothing to do with genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:13 AM
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Yes, but not because of your ridiculous example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:59 AM

Surely there's stuff you're overlooking and haven't talked about, because you're part of it. The post is about specific aspects of the hive-minds so naturally it doesn't mention a lot of other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:51 AM

No, the hive-mind lacks self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:42 AM
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Would you say that the men that want women to cook, clean, suck, and fuck are hypocrites if they can’t also cook, clean, suck, and fuck? Your comment would have some validity if you didnt bring up sucking and fucking. First of all, what would a man need to suck in relation to a woman? I like men with big dicks, I don’t have a dick at all. Am I a hypocrite? Its amazing that you think you're actually making some kind of point by saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:39 AM

I've seen no IRL example to back up anything you're saying in that post You've not seen those examples possibly be ause you arent different from the women being described in the post. There's no reason you arent part of the female hive-mind described.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:37 AM

Literally all the cases where I've seen the female hive mind brought up is just when a woman gets upset at sexism My post doesn't even have anything to do with sexism and its about the female hivemind...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:29 AM
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that's just a circumstance. A circumstance which enables the kind of entitlement that makes someone want others to be generous towards them while not being generous themselves, for example. Circumstances can enable and create certain behaviours. This is well known. That doesn't really goes into why women... It does, but it's not surprising that you can't see or accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:27 AM
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all you've said that they are hypocrites and ridiculous Thats what i said in my response to your comment. The post goes into why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:04 AM
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But my question is why shouldn't they want this even if they themselves don't have it? I'm not saying they shouldn't want it. I'm just pointing out why they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:54 AM
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why shouldn't they? This is like asking why people shouldn't be hypocrites. You can't say you value generosity in others while not being generous yourself and expect nobody to point out the hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness. They can want what they want, and I can point out that they're self-centered and entitled hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:46 AM
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Same old boring red pill blame game. Please point out what isn't true in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:07 AM
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The "female hive-mind" is just not liking sexism No, there is definitely more to the female hive-mind than that and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:21 AM
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it’s not a requirement to have a marriage in order to sue someone for custody or child support. If your partner sues you, thats the consent to get government involved. I keep saying that without marriage the government can only get involved if one of the partners in the relationship involves them, which is what suing literally is. Without going out of your way to involve them (suing each other), they cant be involved. Whereas with marriage, to even get divorced they will need to get involved sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:22 AM
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you and your partner break up and can't agree on how to divide your shared assets, then they'll invite the government into the disagreement without your consent by suing you. Which would be my fault for getting married to an idiot that involves the government in our relationship. The government still requires the consent of at least one person involved. It cant just involve itself without the 3 way contract called marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:04 AM
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it meant being owned by another person, Or being owned by a system, which you are. You can argue that those laws are oppressive, but it’s not “slavery.” It is. You're a slave and you dont even know it. And having a stable two-parent home for children is seen as a societal benefit. So… the government has some incentive to want people to marry, Wow. So even in the way the government benefits, its still all about societal benefit? The government sounds so wonderful and loving. It has no self-intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:02 AM
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it's the solemnification of love and the formation of a new family unit. The family unit part is true, but not "the solemnification of love". It has nothing to do with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:58 AM
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was that then the government would be involved in child custody. No, it's a reason I gave for marriage being a dumb idea. The government gets involved since you signed a contract involving them in your relationship. Without the contract, they 5 just get involved unless one partner claims you're abusing the child or something or you involve them for whatever reason, otherwise there's no reason for them to get involved since you have no contract with them and are not having a dispute with your par…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:55 AM
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Can't wait. Should be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:48 PM
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Thats not even the point 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:41 PM
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Go and talk about it elsewhere. Why are you so eager to get people to stop exposing pedophiles in positions of power? Are you Ghislaine Maxwell or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:48 PM
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and that promise is so joyful to them they want to do it in front of their family and friends. And it makes them wanna sign a legally binding contract too, which is so romantic. But it’s not “signing a contract” it’s a celebration. The celebration means nothing without the contract. No contract = no marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:24 PM
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Why would I get arrested for not giving my money to corrupt politicians? Is government slavery or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:10 PM
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But im right though. People generally do things because most other people do them. They are sheep. This is hardly news.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:22 PM
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Marriage is not a contract vowing love until death. It is a contract that confers rights and obligations on debt, financial support, property and (if applicable), children. Sounds like a business arrangement. Very romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:31 PM
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In what way then? The word anarchy means 'no masters' and consequently, no slaves. That's the way. The government is the master, you are the slave. Why would they do that? To overcompensate. Why would you tie yourself to a person because you dislike them? Just because most couples dont love each other doesn't mean they dislike each other. Like and love arent the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:08 PM
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Not just three or four examples. So the president of the USA being friends with a pedo and sex trafficker and the king of the UK being friends with a pedophile who died free means nothing to you? These are 2 of the top Western countries, and these people are still alive. This tells me that you're not actually serious. Even one example of a president or King being friends with a pedophile should be enough to make you start questioning things. I gave you 3, of which if you look them up, they will …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:05 PM
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From the law…… You mean from the government. Do you think the government cares about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:00 PM
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Where do those advantages come from? Do they come from your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:56 AM
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so I guess if I just don’t tell the government I have a job or a car I don’t need to pay taxes or get insurance? If you weren't a slave, why would you need to tell them any of this? By your standards, I guess we are all slaves. My standards have nothing to do with it. I'm going by what the word actually means objectively. The government doesn’t “care” about any of us. Interesting. So why do they give you benefits for getting married? Since they dont care about you, surely they gain something fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:35 AM
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Well, for starters by getting married and signing a contract, you help legitimise their corrupt system. Also, if somewhere along the way, they don't like how you raise your children, they can take them from you. This has happened to many parents. People think child protective services only removes abused children, but this isnt true. And there have been cases where these children taken from parents end up getting trafficked. When a corrupt government gives you benefits for doing something (espec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:24 AM
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Okay, so why do you think they give you benefits for getting married, since its not because they're nice people who care about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:12 AM
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Not to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:08 AM
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Again, its a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:08 AM
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Before I answer, tell me, do you genuinely believe the government gives you benefits just because it cares about you and is altruistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:03 AM
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Well, it's obviously because they gain something from it, much more than the benefits you get. If the average human has self-interest, you don't think a corrupt government would have even more self-interest? And yes, your government is corrupt, even if you aren't aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:58 AM
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On the surface. The same bloodlines that were in power in the 40s are still in power today. The Rothschilds for example, who made a lot of money from the holocaust still have a lot of influence today, whether you're aware of it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:50 AM
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If you have a child and disagree with the other parent about custody - you can sue. Oh you mean you can choose to get the government involved? Isn't that what I said? It does not require the other persons consent to sue them. It requires the consent of one of the people in the relationship, thats what i was saying. I guess all those parents with custody orders are slaves then Correct. Almost everyone is a slave. The government wants to encourage long term partnership and families so makes incent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:47 AM
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I don't know what it is like in other countries but in Germany marriage usually means tax benefits Why do you think the government that allowed the holocaust to happen would give you tax benefits for signing a contract involving them in your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:37 AM
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You sound like a SovCid. I think you mean sovcit but thanks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:35 AM
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You dont need to be legally entangled with your partner either. Its a choice. A dumb choice, but a choice none the less babes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:22 AM
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my husband and I did it because we know about the legal advantages it has. And other people who get married don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:19 AM
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A marriage is Not a friendship….. Because there is no love in a marriage. A real loving relationship is the best kind of friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:18 AM
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Reality shows that divorces are common. I wonder why... Government only gets involved if the couple can’t come to an agreement regarding custody, money etc. Signing a 3 way contract involves them. Not all of them, and not even most of them are connected to the Epstein case. The people at the top who they take orders from and who actually make the laws definitely are, whether you want to face that or not. please provide evidence that most politicians in history all over the world were / are pedop…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:14 AM
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some judge still has to decide how often you can see your children. No, that only happens if you go out of your way to involve the government. If the government could just get involved in your private life without your consent, that would make you a slave. what it does is offer legal protections for the ways that two people who wish to spend their lives together are already going to combine their lives. And why do you think that the same government that once legalised slavery and benefited from …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:07 AM
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I didn’t sign a contract that says anything about vowing to love each other until death. You haven't heard about marriage vows? The words 'till death do us part' don't ring a bell? Even if you don’t marry someone, that doesn’t protect you from lawsuits. It does if you don't get in a relationship with a low vibrational person who would file a lawsuit against you. This happens if you have children whether you are married or not Nope, its a choice. Without marriage and your consent, the government …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:03 AM
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You choose to not follow the law and maybe you feel very smug about it I choose not to follow rules made by psychopaths and pedophiles who don't even follow their own rules. Any sane person should choose to do that. Also reminder that you still use social infrastructure while not paying for it by the way Yeah, like a smart person. If the government insists on existing, it should serve me, not me serving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:51 AM
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and get left screwed over. By the love of your love who you vowed to love until death? Thats super romantic. If you have children and you give no shits about the financial sacrifice and physical sacrifice of whoever has to take time off work and career to take care of them then you're uncaring and have no love for their partner. Why is it necessary to sign a contract involving the government about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:50 AM
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any agreements Two people can have a private agreement without the government. Are you pro anarachy? Yes, but not what you think anarchy is. Is there something you dislike about marriage in particular Like I said in the post, its a substitute for love. People get married because they dont actually love each other. I do not believe most politicians in the world are pedophiles. I didnt say they are. But the people at the top that they take orders from are either pedophiles or are friends with pedo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:47 AM
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It has to be done if you want to have children and it’s not a job most men are willing to do, so if a woman wants children, she has to do it. Why do women insist on bringing children into such a world? It would be very unloving and cruel for a man to expect his partner to sacrifice so much for children and him with no protection or compensation. And this protection can only come from the government, not the man who supposedly loves the woman in question? Your work contract, insurance constract, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:41 AM
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Bro you are subject to the laws of your country whether you like it or not No, i purposely do things like not paying for parking tickets, not paying taxes, not registering my car and so on. So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:08 AM
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Atleast you're honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:06 AM
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Bro how else am I supposed to make sure my spouse becomes a citizen and wont get kicked out of the country If the marriage is purely for practical and legal purposes just say that. then yeah we are all slaves Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:52 AM
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You don’t have to understand why people get married Its not complicated. They do it because its what everyone else does. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:36 AM
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Do you think this changes the point being made about him being a king who was friends with a well-known and prolific pedophile? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:35 AM
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I for instance am in IT. There's always a base caution there that, while you're often seen as technically skilled, you may still be cautiously percieved as potentially this immature and very self-centered person, who spends all his spare time playing computer games and engage in shallow pursuits. When you're married however, professional trust comes quick. Then it's "Vaudeville_Clown, I know you're role is 2nd line IT technician, but we are welcoming this new client and was thinking you could be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:34 AM
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My employment contract is between me, my employer and the government. No, its between you and your employer. The government only gets involved if you or your employer wants them to. You're just coming across as someone who doesn't know how modern society works. Says the person calling pedophilia among the 'elite' a conspiracy theory at a time when the Epstein files are being released... If you want to make a "government are all paedophiles" thread can you do it somewhere else? The point is the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:31 AM
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it's based on actual data. What is this data based on? Pretty much all of the married men are very pro-marriage and feel sorry for the single men. The "ball and chain" jokes are just banter Like I said, you dont know what they say when they're around only men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:29 AM
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But countless civilizations saw the value in them for thousands of years...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:26 AM
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If countless civilisations across thousands of years have seen value in marriage, that to me suggests something deeper than you are appreciating. Does this also appy to slavery or nah? How about women's rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:19 AM
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Married men are the happiest in society and live longer They may live longer, but they arent truly happy. Unfortunately for you, you don't really know what married men say about marriage when they're with other men. Its very common for married men to tell unmarried young men not to get married. Its said as kind of a joke, but alot of truth is said in jest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:18 AM
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Legal recognition matters when the worst happens Unfortunately, as long as you don't understand why government exists and why it gives you legal recognition for signing a contract involving it in your relationship, nothing I say will mean anything to you. The government doesn't give you benefits for signing a 3 way contract in your marriage because it cares about you. In fact, the people who control the government see the people as dumb sheep to be controlled. They see you as "useless eaters". T…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:15 AM
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They just follow a way of living created by whatever society they live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:11 AM
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Any contract you make involves the government, that's just how contracts work, this includes any agreements with an unmarried partner. If you cant see the difference between a contract between you and your employer and a contract between you, your partner and your government then we should just agree to disagree and leave it at that because that means you don't even understand basic things. whatever your preoccupation with paedophilia is. Have you heard of Jeffrey Epstein or Jimmy Saville? Its n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:06 AM
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ill of character Right, everyone knows only good people get married. Even people who kill their partners can't be ill of character since they're married. Even pedophiles aren't of ill character as long as they're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:58 AM
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And do people who follow these things create them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:52 AM
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Personal insults don't actually address the argument. There are billionaires who are also against marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:51 AM
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Basically everything you do involves the government, Only if you lack intelligence and/or are a slave. Your marriage contract is between you and your spouse and the government Which is absurd. just storing information and allowing you to claim certain benefits and pursue certain rights in court, like literally any other contract, you make them when you buy groceries. Because the government loves you so much, right? Its all for your benefit, and the government doesnt benefit in anyway. Its very a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:49 AM
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Where does tradition come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:43 AM
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So it seems that you have less of an issue with the concept of marriage and more of a problem with the existence of a government? The two go together. Without government, marriage means nothing since a big part of it has to do with legalities. Do you see the benefits of marriage when there is a government without pedophiles? The benefits of marriage come from the government. And there can't be a government without pedophiles because thats not how our society works. The people with the desire to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:42 AM
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Likely because usually women are the ones who sacrifice their carreers and stay home with children. If this is so unpleasant, why do they keep doing it? Without marriage, there are zero legal protections Nothing says love like needing legal protection from your partner, from a government run by psychopaths and pedophiles (this is proveable, btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:38 AM
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In other words, people who don't think for themselves. They just follow a way of living created by whatever society they live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:36 AM
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Culturally it's seen as a romantic milestone for the relationship where you publicly have a ceremony and invite family and friends. Sounds like overcompensating for a lack of love. Legally it offers protection such as obligations in the relationship and what will happen if you divorce. Nothing says love like signing a contract giving your partner legal obligations. Thats so romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:31 AM
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You sign contracts that are legally enforceable all the time, you need them to have a job or house or anything at all really, and your relationship assets can end up divided in court regardless. Surely you can see the difference between signing a contract with an employer and signing a contract that involves a government run by psychopaths and pedophiles (which you know as the government) in your relationship, right? I somehow don't think he's getting a whole lot out of it Do you think the gover…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:28 AM
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Marriage is the ultimate form of love Yeah, nothing expresses love like signing a 3 way contract involving a government run by pedophiles. which is a duty to each other, This doesnt actually mean anything in reality. Also, you should look at the divorce rate to see what this 'ultimate form of love' results in and how often.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:23 AM
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only see women arguing for The necessity of marriage. I wonder why. It certainly can't be because they benefit more from it or anything...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:13 AM
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You don’t HAVE to involve lawyers, But you've already involved the government by signing a contract, which is so dumb, especially given what the government is. showed you why the government will always be involved. Without marriage, the government getting involved is something you choose and consent to, otherwise you'd be a slave if they can get involved without your consent. You aren’t giving any reasons that show why it is a substitute. I am. You just cant see it. Signing a contract and then v…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:12 AM
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The government is involved whether you are married or not. Only if you go out of your way to involve the government. Their involvement requires your consent. you split up and you’ve bought a house together, you will have to get lawyers. You don't have to do that. Its a choice. You can also settle things by yourselves. But it doesn’t make it any easier when it comes to breakups. It definitely does since you dont have to see a judge, go to court or sign contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:02 AM
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If you love your partner and want to stay with them, why wouldn't you sign a contract that makes your lifelong relationship recognised everywhere with legal, social and financial benefits and make things easier for both of you? Because its a silly thing to do. Why sign a contract that essentially involves a government controlled by the Epstein class in your relationship? Why do you think you get legal, social and financial benefits for signing such a contract? Do you think its because the pedoph…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:58 AM
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It’s a way of dismissing people’s choices by portraying them as mindless followers Many people are mindless followers. Did you forget what happened in 2020/21?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:48 AM
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Blaming a “hive mind” is an excuse I'm not blaming anyone. If someone under the influence of drugs does something bad and I point it out, that doesn't mean I'm blaming drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:23 PM
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No, i was answering your question about what they are. How is that an excuse? You're confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:59 PM
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Where do I get connected to this supposed "hive mind"? You're already connected to it. If people operate from a hive mind why are there so many different ways people live their life? There isnt just one hivemind. Also, people dont live that different. They all work jobs they hate, pay bills, pay fines, pay taxes, vote and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:14 AM
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Hivemind people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:12 AM
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We are all individuals. Most people actually aren't though. The people in power who control what you do know you aren't all individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:06 PM
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"The female hive-mind operates in a slightly different way. Its main focus is influencing women into wanting to get some material benefits from being involved with a man (resources, free meals and so on). And because the male and female hive-minds are programmed to complement each other, men generally don't mind knowing that without money and resources, they probably wouldn't get laid that much" It means that women are generally programmed to value .oney and resources when it comes to men. But i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:29 AM
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The preference for resources is now hardwired in, and not that dependent on whether she is marrying or sport fucking exactly. Which means that even the natural (to a certain extent) desire for resources is no longer about the future children. Its a self-serving thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:12 AM
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If all women are after money Thats not what's said in the post, so the premise of your response is already wrong. why is it that poorer societies still reproduce among each other? Poorer societies tend to generally exist in "third world countries", and in those countries their way of thinking isn't predominantly European/western and therefore their dating preferences aren't as fully influenced by the European way of thinking.x And in the west, poor societies still function under the same premise…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:07 AM
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Women valuing resources in men more than the other way around, though, is basically evolution at its base. From the perspective of having children, yes. But women don’t have children with most of the men they sleep with, that's how you can tell that's it's psychology (nurture) more than biology (nature) influencing their behaviour or "preferences".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:04 AM
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We regret to inform you that this topic is too big for your chosen platform How convenient... The topics you should look into contain (but not limited to) suffragist movement, waves of feminism, invention of contraception pill, and it influences on dating, Invisibility of domestic work etc. You should look into a book called 'The Manipulated Man' written by a woman who lived through those times and when they supposedly changed the female hive-mind (according to you)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:57 AM
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I'm not really sure what the difference is between hive mind and gendered evolved instincts. Think nature vs nurture. The hivemind is the result of nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:53 AM
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then why do men lose their minds about paying for dates? What do you mean? Do they lose their minds by insisting on paying or not wanting to pay? But redpillers talk about female nature then get wildly offended by female nature. What they call "female nature" is just a symptom of the female hive mind, which is a result of how women are socially conditioned. Redpillers are not 100% right, but they're not 100% wrong either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:51 AM
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Basically, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:48 AM
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the settings of female hive-mind were updated due to many major events in the last century that influenced female strategy, desires and freedom. Like what for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:40 AM
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That was in the last century Nope, the female hive-mind didn't update itself just because it's not the 1900s anymore. In the new patch there is a clarification that now women need different things. They still want similar things. The female hive-mind was only slightly updated. For example, now they can work and make their own money, but money in a partner still matters to them, only in different degrees depending on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:34 AM
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I said to myself: this has to be written by a man Because its true and logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:30 AM
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The male hive mind in your perspective is a sub set of men who ONLY view sex as an importance. No, thats just one aspect of a type of hive-mind. There a different hive-minds that influence different people. For example, there are religious hive-minds (Christianity, Islam and so on) but not every person is influenced by those hive minds. Even people influenced by the Christian hivemind can still be influenced by different types of hiveminds within a particular hivemind. In Christianity for exampl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:16 AM

I'm not religious so this comment doesn't actually say anything about my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:30 AM

The person you are quoting seems to think all women do this. What do you think would lead a woman into thinking that all women do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:28 AM

You can't be manipulated into doing something you don't want to via sex unless you allow yourself to be. Yes, we've already established that men allow themselves to be manipulated. The point is they're still being manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:27 AM

All of your replies show everyone just how little you care. Trust me bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:26 AM

Great argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:18 PM

So how are they withholding it as “a reward” then?! The post says they use it as a reward nit that they withhold it. These are to different things. Bruh your whole premise is flawed and exposed. No, you just dont understand what the post is actually saying. I dont think you actually read it objectively without projecting whatever is in your head into it. This is why youre not making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:22 PM

So you agree that men are abusers then? Some men and women are abusers. What's your point? And you agree that men are pedophiles? Some men and women are pedophiles. Take Jeffrey Epstein and his partner in crime Ghislaine Maxwell for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:07 PM

You are saying they are choosing not to have sex Who is choosing not to have sex? Where did I say this? in order to safe it as a “reward” No, i said they use it as a reward. You can have sex just to enjoy it and you can also use it to get what you want. This is why onlyfans exists. The women who do it also enjoy sex, obviously. Do you not see his dumb that sounds? It sounds dumb because it's a result of you not understanding the post you're commenting on. No one is saying women don't enjoy sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:05 PM

Why would someone not do a pleasurable thing they enjoy that they want? That’s just stupid. I don't think you even understand what the post is about or what it means. No one is being told not to have sex. Thinking that women “give sex” like it’s something they have to put up with just slows complete lack of understanding and lack of experience. Again, literally no one anywhere said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:56 PM

If a man allows himself to be manipulated because of his sexual urges that's on him. Correct. This doesnt change the fact that sex is being used to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:50 PM

It is, unless you're 14. What love is doesnt change just because you stopped being a certain age so you're not really making an intelligent point here. Parents will typically love their children Most parents don't actually love their children unconditionally either. you get up and leave (or at least you should) Where did you get the idea that unconditional love means not standing up for yourself? you love them for who they are, If you dont even know who you are or what unconditional love is, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:50 PM

Nobody claimed that. You can enjoy sex and use it to manipulate men. Its not a hard concept to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:27 PM

She is. She was right about alot of things in relation to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:26 PM

it’s just a rant about not being “rewarded” for being a good boy. This is you projecting your own nonsense onto the post for whatever reason. Probably to feel good about yourself, hence the quality of your replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:25 PM

Or dont. I dont actually care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:22 PM

Its called agreeing with something you initially called bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:22 PM

What does this have to do with the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:19 PM

Everyone else, you love FOR something. Then its not actually love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:01 PM

So do some women use sex as a reward or not? You're not being direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:50 PM

i totally get where youre coming from and i used to feel that bitterness It has nothing to do with bitterness. Esther Vilar said the same thing, what was she bitter about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:38 PM

So Esther Vilar was also whining about not being attractive to women? That makes so much sense. Here, also the more I read this, the more I'm convinced you have never interacted with women, do you think women.. don't enjoy sex ? genuinely asking? Its possible to enjoy sex and also use it to get what you want. Have you heard of onlyfans or prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:37 PM

Show me where the whining is in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:27 PM

dont you think that looking at a relationship as a power struggle just guarantees that neither person actually gets their needs met? You can look at a relationship however you want, that won't change what it actually is. If your partner is cheating on you, you can see your relationship as having no cheating in it, but that won't change whats happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:11 PM

Yes, attracting women is very sad. I cry about it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:26 PM

Quite sure she means it rather literally, given the broader context of her work. No, she acknowledges that she isnt talking about literally all women, but the majority. If you are not part of the majority (more than 50%) that uses sex as a reward then her words and this post shouldn't make you feel any particular way. This says a lot about these women's morals, nothing about female sexuality. Who said it means anything about female sexuality? Using sex as a reward is a choice, it's not a comment…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:24 PM

how do you even know? Because its very obvious. A huge majority of men are thirsty and so the idea of using sex as a reward never really comes into their minds. if you had some remotely accurate statistics to back up your claim I find it so funny when people in this sub say this in response to a post about things women do. Its so absurd because who do you think is gonna spend money to do a study about this? Secondly, do you actually think that when asked women would openly admit that they use se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:21 PM

Did you not say that some women use sex as a reward?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:06 PM

She said all women, It's hyperbolic. effectively implying female sexuality is inherently transactional Unfortunately many women either acknowledge that it's transactional themselves or they act in a way that makes it transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:59 PM

Ok so Esther said a pile of bs Well, she was right. Yes manipulative women absolutely exist. So how is it a pile of bs? Women who use sex as a manipulation tactic are evil. That doesn't mean they don't exist or that there aren't many of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:35 PM

I personally do 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:33 PM

No, only the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:30 PM

You can love your pet as much as you want but if it attacks you, you wont want it anymore. I dont know why people think unconditional love means you'll just passively accept violence and other unpleasant behaviour. I find it very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:26 PM

Anyway, I have enough experience on this sub to know the conversation will only go in circles at this point because you don't have any support for your claims, so you can have the last word. If you can't use basic observation skills and knowledge of human behaviour then you just won't see it, but the reality is that many women do use sex as a reward, and the person who stated it in those terms is literally a woman. If you had atleast acknowledged that some women (however few) use sex as a reward…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:23 PM

Some women do use sex as a reward Okay, so we only disagree about the amount of women who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:19 PM

Just because you and everyone you've come across doesn't love unconditionally doesn't mean there is no unconditional love. In fact, if there is no unconditional love, that means there's no love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:18 PM

You brought it up in your first response to me. I said even prostitutes don't go around randomly telling women that they're prostitutes and you said many women have told you they are so much that it doesn't surprise you anymore or something. so the support for your argument seems scarce all around. My personal experience is besides the point. If I experienced it that doesnt mean other men have and if I haven't experienced it, that doesn't mean other men also haven't. Whatever answer I give doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:15 AM

when will you learn it's never "men" or "women Whether you want to acknowledge that it happens or not, its generally not men who use sex as a reward. Just because you haven't experienced it (or arent aware of it) doesn't mean it doesnt happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:29 AM

At this point, I'm just trying to clarify the scope of your claims, but if you're literally including prostitution as your evidence... it's kind of weird to imply that can be extrapolated to most women. You're the one who brought up OF and sugar baby work. I mean, are you even trying to say this happens in most relationships I'm saying many women use sex as a reward in dating and relationships, like the title says. do you have any evidence of that whatsover? Yes, including from men who have expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:25 AM

Typo. I meant to say Do women who date men want nothing from the men they date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:52 AM

Use sex as a reward for what? Do women who date men want nothing from the men they date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:45 AM

They would tell me because a lot of women tell their friends a lot They dont tell them everything. This is also untrue, as I know several women who have told me they done sugar baby work and OF. The point still remains that most prostitutes dont just go around revealing that information to other women, especially when they think they'll be judged and looked down upon and this is just how humans are. Women arent above that aspect of the human condition. and it stopped even being shocking. In othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:44 AM

Just because you don't understand something or agree with it doesn't mean it's wrong. There are some things you don't know no matter how smart and intelligent you may think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:40 AM

So does it get used as a reward and a way to manipulate or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:24 AM

Its actually true. Genuine love is unconditional. That's not a fairytale. It's basically a natural law.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:05 AM

All love is literally transactional. Being transactional means you expect something in return for your contribution in a short time frame and if not, you will not provide your contribution. This isn't love. Thats not to say you shouldn't make your relationships transactional if you want, but in terms of what things actually are, that isn't love. Does love just happen randomly for no reason? Yes, actually. Which is why you can't make yourself love someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:03 AM

I can see this isn't a real interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:57 AM

Its not just about "stuff". Even women who overtly use men don't just do it purely for material objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:54 AM

Every relationship is transactional in one way or another Does it have to be? Business is transactional. Love isnt, and if it is then it isn't love. But because most people's relationships are transactional, sex gets end up being used as a reward and relationships end up based on a credit system.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:52 AM

have never known a woman who does, or at least admits to, doing anything resembling this. If they don't tell you (why would they?), how would you know? Even prostitutes don't go around telling other women that they're prostitutes or have an OF. The funny thing about this post is one hand people act like they're idea of women using sex as a reward is unthinkable and never happens And on the other hand people are saying "yeah, ofcourse this happens". Naturally mire men than women acknowledge that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:50 AM

The "well-thought-out response" calls the post bulshit and yet ends up acknowledging that sex can and does get used as a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:51 AM

On one hand you have men in relationships that think sex is used to manipulate them What do you think would lead a man in a relationship to think this? If someone thinks a person they love is using sex to manipulate them, could this just be coming from nowhere and based on nothing real on the part of their partner? At this point is sex thrown out as a "reward" to get something, ANYTHING accomplished? Sure. Oh i thought that it was bulshit. Obviously some women use sex to get what they want. No w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:31 AM

Never knew ppl used it as a reward system Well, many do. Its actually pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:24 AM

It's bait to get what the want, not a reward which is given after. In many instances its used as a reward. If it was purely bait all the time it wouldn't work for long, especially in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:46 AM

Once the ink on the contract dries a not insignificant portion of women close up shop. Yeah, because they got the security they wanted. Sex is used as reward to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:41 AM

Yes and men allow them to have alot of power over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:40 AM
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But they wouldn't have an upper hand They actually would, assuming women already find them attractive to a certain extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:51 AM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:50 AM
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Men are not a good investment of time or energy or effort. Can you see this also applying to women from the perspective of a man? Men fumble good woman all the time by looking for the next best thing and not being good partners to the people they are with. So women ever so this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:01 AM
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very !
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:16 PM
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And for your “strategy” to work, the vast majority of men would have to employ it. Its not about a strategy. For it to be a strategy that would mean the man in question still cares. You dont apply a strategy to something you dont care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:13 PM
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I guess, but its not about just stopping looking. Its also about seeing women as they really are, beyond the makeup and the performative femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:04 PM
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Thats right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:54 PM
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In what way would the world be different if cows could fly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:53 PM
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Seeing women as “basic and boring” won’t help Its not about what helps or not. Its about reality. Seeing women as they are instead of projecting ideal images onto them (which is what essentially all men do) will help men stop caring because seeing women as they are reveals the unfortunate reality that many of them are boring and very basic. This is why many of the most intelligent men in human history didn't get married. Not “how to have the upper hand in dating” because that’s still chasing app…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:47 PM
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but they still wouldn't have a positive one. If those men dont care, is this an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:42 PM
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You gotta start with the man in the mirror, to quote Michael Jackson.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:40 PM
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uh, yes? Actually no, the concept of the redpill comes from the Matrix movie and existed long before reddit. I was just messing with you to see if you actually knew what you were talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:39 PM
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The post is about not caring...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:36 PM
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than some strategy that might not work and is often not needed anyways. Stopping to care about nonsense as a "strategy" is still caring 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:59 PM
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be a decent human to their potential partner. Are you a decent human to your potential partner? If so, in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:57 PM
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we've reached the point where most women would think "thank god" if men cared less about them and thus took themselves out of the dating pool. Shouldn't this be incentive for men with self respect to stop caring? Why would you care about people who think "thank god" when you stop caring about them? Where is the self respect in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:56 PM
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Humans don't actually have to survive. Being thirsty and surviving arent the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:55 PM
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Is the red pill subreddit the same thing as the concept of the redpill? Did the subreddit come first?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:35 PM
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Nope, I'm in my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:11 PM
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Yes Exactly, hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:10 PM
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Either you care about it or you don't; there's no such thing as caring about it just a little bit. The question still remains unanswered.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:34 PM
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do you know what this subreddit is? Is it trp?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:56 AM
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They know its a leverage, and they dont want to lose it. So do you think men caring too much is gonna encourage and perpetuate this mentality or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:38 AM
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So if they dont come to a man when he cares and they don't come to him when he doesn't care, which one is the intelligent and sane option?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:35 AM
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most women would still ignore men So does caring what women think make them not ignore them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:15 AM
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Attractiveness doesn't matter in that situation. The reality is it does. If a man you find attractive cares too much, you will end up being bored with him and taking him for granted. but that really isn't true Its true for some women. What percentage of women it's true for is a different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:09 AM
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Having the upperhand will make pursuing whats "important" to them easier and less of a pain, which any sane man wants, otherwise, they wouldn't complain about women and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:13 AM
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I think alot of women would be the same Not true. If you find the guy physically attractive, you will most likely speak to him again. Also, not giving a fuck doesn't mean being rude and callous. The reality is if a man women find attractive doesnt give a fuck, this makes them want to get his attention and validation even more. This is basic psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:25 AM
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Not true. I got more dates after I stopped caring and had more success dating after I stopped trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:23 AM
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, humanity would die out. This isnt even remotely true. You seem to think that only men are biologically programmed to want to have sex and therefore have kids. Also, even if humanity died out, so what? Atleast they will no longer keep being ruled by pedophiles they do literally nothing about while paying taxes to them. EVEN WITH male pursuit Korea and Japan may cease to exist within a century or two ( Oh so even with men pursuing the same thing can still happen? Seems like there's a lesson in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:27 AM
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That doesnt change the point being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:23 AM
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So confirmed, you can't be bothered to name any other examples besides paying Do you think there are women who use the men they date and take them for granted? If so, tell me some ways in which they do that. then they won't get a second date. The point is they pay because they care and therefore are afraid not to get a second date. Don't you get it? Ergo, they won't have the upper hand. If they stop caring about not getting a second date they will. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:22 AM
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different ways" is not an answer. It is because people dont use their partners and take them for granted in 100% similar ways. Isn't this obvious? Also, being expected to always pay for dates is an indication that a man is being used. I know you cant empathize because you're likely the one who does the expecting as a woman. And this paying for dates is the sole basis of your entire argument about men not caring. I didnt even mention it in the post, so no. will simply have to make themselves attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:04 AM
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HOW would that man be "used and taken for granted" in this situation? In different ways depending on who he's dating because a woman wanting to date a man doesn't mean she won't use him or take him for granted. A man pays for a few dates and suddenly he's a walking ATM? A man is expected to pay for dates and other stuff, which is an indication that he's seen as a walking atm (which is a metaphor, not literal).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:45 AM
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she will want to date him. Yes, women can and do take for granted men they want to date and they also can and do use them. A woman wanting to date a man doesn't mean she won't use him or see him as a walking atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:37 AM
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You’re on this post elsewhere saying that simping is a problem; How does saying simping is a problem equate to say not to be romantic? Is simping what being romantic is to you? And thinking it literally means that women want you to go to war is even dumber. No one actually thinks that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:29 AM
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So it's not about caring or not caring. It is. Even if a man meets a woman's standards and ticks all the boxes, if he cares too much there is a very high chance that he will be used and taken for granted. This is unfortunately the condition many women are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:21 AM
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Those are 2 different things in my opinion. They are related. Simps care too much, hence the simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:00 AM
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I love how you guys think any attempt to do something romantic, thoughtful or impressive for a woman is simping, Did i say that? You guys are such literal-minded dullards. The point is its a dumb thing to say that only idiots take seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:59 AM
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You cant turn off a biological program but you don't have to be a slave to it. I feel like that's pretty obvious. Being attracted to women doesn't mean you have to be a simp or care too much about impressing them or getting their approval. Being attracted to women isnt a choice, but all the simping and praising and worshipping women definitely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:51 AM
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But they do care. Yes, hence the post. As a man who currently doesn't try all that happens is nothing. Not trying doesnt mean not talking to women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:47 AM
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And if my Nanna had wheels she’d be a bicycle. No, she'd be disabled and a hybrid. If you’re an even remotely red-blooded man, you fucken should care what women think and care about. No, if you're a simp you will though. Imagine caring what women think when they don't even care about you at all. That's so sad. All you low-T MGTOW-adjacent weenies who The real "weenie" is the guy who feels the need to impress women, who actually look down on you and see you as a walking atm. “Oh but she might mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:46 AM
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Who is God? And where is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:42 AM
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Not really not caring just means you'll be alone forever. Even if you end up alone forever, if you truly don't care it's not a problem. Men have the unfortunate disadvantage of having to try They dont actually have to try. They just think they do and insist on trying to the point where some men dont like it when women take the initiative and approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:41 AM
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Men are built to yearn According to who? And who built them like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:39 AM
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that’s just emotional withdrawal Nope. Its wisdom. when dating becomes your main source of meaning and validation. Arent you going to care too much when this is the case? And if you care too much, arent you going to make dating your main source of validation and meaning? Detachment unfortunately is not strength, It actually is, which is why most people cant do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:39 AM
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What's trp?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:37 AM
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If the majority of the males stopped caring then nothing noticeable will change [in the short term- nobody here cares about the long term] besides them not passing on their genes or their values. Not caring doesn't mean not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:57 AM

No So equating my statement about sex with a fish saying water isnt a big deal wasn't correct since fish literally die without water. Quality of life will decline massively if you don’t socialize or have sex ever. Only if you're weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:37 AM

“Sex isn’t a big deal” kinda like the fish saying “water isn’t a big deal” Do you die if you dont have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:25 AM
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so you tell us what should be a big deal So without sex, nothing else is a big deal to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:44 AM
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What do women do instead of pursuing and prioritising sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:10 AM
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That mature people recognize it's not a big deal Because sticking your penis in another person can not be a big deal in a world controlled by people who use your money (taxes) to fund wars that kill children you've never even heard of and people who are friends with pedophiles like Epstein and Jimmy Savile, including presidents and members of royal families. Only a child would be aware of all these things and yet still think sex is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:53 AM
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Kid: I want my family to stay together, thats a big deal Kids think having their toys taken away from them is a big deal, which is why they cry. But adults know its not a big deal. Like I said, if you are such a person not mature enough to not see that sticking your penis in another person isnt that big a deal, you will not be able to accept it. Its only when you're mature that you're able to see that its really not a big deal. As long as you're not mature enough, you cant see it. Which like i s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:24 AM
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none of those have anything to do with how "important" something is They do. Something that children think is a big deal, adults know it isnt. And if you are a child and an adult tells you that something you think is a big deal really isnt, you wouldn't be able to accept that. This is basically whats happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:38 AM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:59 AM
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People's opinions There's opinion and then there's truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:58 AM
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So if someone believe watching porn is a big deal, and they cant live without it, does that mean it actually is in objective reality? Obviously not. You'd only answers yes to that question if youre being disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:02 PM
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But not to the adults who are supposed to have more intelligence and be more grounded in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:31 AM
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You aren't an NPC. Yeah, I'm clearly not but 99% of human beings are, thats what im saying. I don’t like it either but its the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:17 AM
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If people are obsessed with something, that automatically makes it a big deal That doesnt mean it actually is though, that's the point. To kids certain things appear to be a big deal, does that mean they actually are in the real world of adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:35 AM
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They don't have some pre programmed can't be broken path What do you think the biological programming to want sex and to have kids is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:33 AM
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There is no debate about this. The point is it doesn't matter because sex still isn't a big deal. There are many things much more important than it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:43 PM
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most folks who call out other folks as NPCs are likely NPCs themselves Does that mean that you one?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:41 PM
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Personally I like sex but they're like at least a dozen things more important to me than sex it's in the top 20 for sure though. Thats basically what the post is about, that there are many things more important than sex. The value I place on sex dating and relationships and is about 20 to $50. Hbu ? Considering how most people are (women in my case as a straight man), i dont place any real value on sex, dating and relationships. I used to but then I woke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:14 PM
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But it doesn’t actually buy happiness. So whether the person saying that is rich or not is irrelevant because its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:09 PM
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They aren't NPCs. Unfortunately many people are NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:27 PM
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men want women more than they need them women need men more that they want them. This is sadly true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:23 PM

Are you not able to control your biological compulsions?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:07 PM
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Paying for it is not being a slave to women. Being obsessed with it is what makes men slaves to women. So you are arguing that sex is not a big deal, yet also arguing that men’s sense of identity and happiness is tied to sex. Yes, their sense of identity is tied to sex because they think its a big deal. Thats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:07 PM
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Culturally men are conditioned to value themselves through sex. It's not about the act but being able to seduce a woman to have sex with him. Yeah, this is unfortunately true. Sadly, many men will defend their obsession with sex when they come across this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:58 PM
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This is an interesting observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:55 PM
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He has to pay a fee for it Exactly. The interesting thing going is even if he doesnt see a prostitute, he will still have to pay for it in some way, shape or form. If I am obsessed with the newest iPhone, am I slave to Apple and its major retailers because I am obsessed with the phone? If your sense of self and your happiness is dependent on it, yes. Its mental slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:53 PM
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He’s a slave to no one. He's a slave to whoever controls what he's obsessed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:45 PM
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The people who patronize sex for men as a "bad programming", are mostly miserable women who don't understand how basic biology works. If you actually read what's being said in the post you'll realise that this is a dumb and irrelevant comment. Being a man with high testosterone doesn't mean you have to condone adult women having sex with young boys (child abuse), which is what the post is about. Also, no one said sex is "bad programming", that doesnt even make any sense. Both men and women are b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:40 AM
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In absolute terms, there are a lot. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:45 AM
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You think society tells them to do it; I think men are pervs all on their own We are talking about FEMALE teachers abusing their students.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:30 AM
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Im contradicting it with real world examples I've seen of female teachers having sex with their students. There are a lot of them, even if you wanna pretend there aren't for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:29 AM
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That has nothing to do with female teachers having sex with their students, which is what the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:25 AM
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Atleast you noticed that you initially reacted emotionally and illogically called me an incel 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:23 AM
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Clearly you dont really know what programming means or how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:39 PM
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it comes with the hardware The desire for sex also comes with the hardware in women. The obsession with sex is where the programming comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:08 PM
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What's your point in relation to the content of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:53 PM
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Those forces exploit an existing basic drive Obviously. Everyone knows the desire for sex is a natural biological drive. The post is basically about men overvaluing sex due to the natural drive being exploited by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:31 PM
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The answer is you don't know them, so you dont know if theyre joking. And if you are right that they are joking, that means the people you're defending joke about child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:07 PM
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Those people are joking Do you know them? Also, do you joke about adult men abusing young girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:00 PM
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which is why you see those comments. I know, hence the post 🤦 My comment was about the male reaction, What is the male reaction in relation to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:39 PM
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I earnestly do not believe I would have been negatively affected if I had sex with one of the teachers I would have been interested in when I was in highschool. The key word is believe. Also, this comment adds nothing of value to a discussion about female pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:35 PM
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That need is not "socialized" or "indoctrinated" into us, however. Overvaluing sex to the point of supporting female pedophiles (which is what the post is about, if you read it) is definitely social programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:22 PM
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You seem like a woman the way you are writing this. Right, because only women are against adults having sex with children. I'm not sure you're going to win any arguments trying to convince people men don't naturally love sex. Thats not the point being made. Atleast read the post first and then respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:20 PM
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Watch what happens when a man rejects a woman sexually. I know what happens. I'm a man and I've rejected women sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:07 PM
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I’d say a comment talking about how attractive a woman Like I said, you've obviously never read the things they actually say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:06 PM
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I’d say it’s far more mild than women going out of their way to fan girl, send letters, and meet literal rapists and killers all the time. Its not a competition. Both groups of people who do that are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:56 AM
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I can tell you haven't actually seen the stuff they say. Also, talking about a child abuser's fuckability in reaction to a news story about them abusing a child makes you bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:39 AM
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If you want to say that a small minority of men desire sex so much that they genuinely deny that boys can be sexually assaulted, I mean sure. Thats essentially what the post is saying if you actually read it, but its not a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:30 AM
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Those men actually would prefer these women receive fair and equal treatment under the law They dont, which is why they say stuff like "Where was she when I was in highschool".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:08 AM
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Supporting and encouraging female pedophiles is not a "biological reality".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:00 AM
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"We" arent born supporting adult women having sex with young boys. Thats what the post is about. Maybe you should actually read it. Also, children dont come out of the womb desiring sex. That happens at a much later stage. Women also desire sex naturally but young girls arent born desiring it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:45 AM
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they make the news because their so rare and unusual, They really arent. I say incel fanfiction because it’s common knowledge on Reddit how many incels make up stories about evil women and try to pretend this is the norm or it’s regular when it’s not, trying to spread their hatred Whether you're willing to acknowledge it or not, a concerning amount of female teachers sleep with their male students. Just this week where I live a female teacher got exposed for being pregnant with a 12 year old. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:29 AM
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Actually there’s not, I know there is because of the amount of news reports I see basically every week, hence the post. let’s not confuse fact over incel fiction You make people not take you seriously when you use the world incel unnecessarily. What about a post saying men have been conditioned to over value sex to the point where they support child abuse makes one an incel?? That doesnt even make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:19 AM
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Let’s not pretend it’s the norm for teachers to abuse their students, especially female teachers Unfortunately, there is an insane amount of female teachers who abuse their students and they usually only get a slap on the wrist legally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:13 AM
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two things can be true at the same time. Again, we are talking about children, not adult men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:54 AM
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When did I say child abuse is okay? You said "men and women are different" which is what i said people say to justify adult women having sex with young boys, which is what the post is about 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:12 AM
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But no for me I’ve always love sex and pretty women since I was really little Wow, you're so unique. This doesnt make child abuse okay even if a young boy is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:42 AM
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Who do you think did the programming? Society. Men love sex, So do women. there’s no programming needed. It is very possible to take someone who has an existing desire and then exploit it by amplifying it, which is exactly what has happened to men. Social media comments are not always a good representation of reality Do people on social media not exist in reality? I’m sure most men who comment in support of the teacher would feel much differently if it was their 12 year old son. I've literally s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:32 AM
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No, "we" are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:00 AM
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It’s an IQ issue for you, Right. Because you need to have a high IQ to enjoy sex 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:43 AM
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valuing sexual access is categorically different from condoning child rape. There is valuing sex and then there is over-valuing sex, which is what most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:37 AM
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these are 2 completely different things. Not really. This is why many men support such behaviour. Its because they're thinking from the perspective of a thirsty man who basically worships sex. If sex wasn't extremely important to them, they would see female teachers having sex with students for what it is, which is abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:35 AM
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Drama is a great way to get a woman to break up with you. A lack of drama is a great way to get a woman to break up with a man. Women love drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:19 PM
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So boring relationships between boring people do not exist? They do, but those relationships still have their own drama just like boring movies still have some drama. My parents and aunts and uncles actually had tons of drama which I never saw ? Yes. Most people dont actually see the drama that takes place in most relationships since it happens behind closed doors. Think about your own relationships. Are people close to you aware of every single fight you've ever had with your partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:13 AM
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There are no undramatic relationships, unless the people involved are spiritually conscious, which is extremely rare. Also, drama doesn't necessarily mean screaming and throwing furniture at each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:06 AM
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There’s definitely some sort of sexual attraction there, even if it’s low True. I also think there is a bit of narcissism involved. When they say women are more beautiful to look at than men they actually mean I'm more beautiful to look at than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:03 AM
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and Greek and Roman sculptora would like to have a word with you. I literally was just thinking this while reading her comment. The truth is if her partner told her he finds naked men more beautiful than naked women, she would think he's gay. On reddit she'll pretend like she won't but we both know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:02 AM
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The women got sick of your shit and now she’s leaving to be with an actually good guy. Even in the relationship with the "good" guy, there still needs to be drama otherwise she will get bored. This is just the nature of the ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:26 AM
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It's not drama they crave, it's stimulation. Drama is the source of stimulation. There needs to be a purpose, a drive, something to look forward to each day Yes, and there still "needs" to be drama. I put the word need in quotes because there doesn't actually need to be drama, but as long as the ego is there, drama will not only be necessary but it will be inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:25 AM
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They've been confirmed in studies released in 2009 and 2025. How were these studies conducted? What were the methods of finding this information? I've pulled enough sources out of my fucking ass. Enough said...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:21 AM
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You arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:11 AM
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I bet it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:10 AM
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“you might not be for everyone, but you’re more than enough for most. And I carried that with me ever since. Awww that's nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:02 AM
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Amazing. Keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:02 AM
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Everything else is just insecurities that only a scared child who doesn’t think they’ll be good enough thinks. Projection reveals alot about people. Very insightful comment about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:59 AM
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Sure bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:58 AM
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Men love loving sex Do women not love sex? Do they just have it with their partners as a chore? If so, what kind of people are they who stay in a relationship where they dont even enjoy sex with their partners? Also, do women not get pleasure from sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:56 AM
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Let's hope the men "who Ali aren't getting any" understood you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:54 AM
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Those aren’t reasons that it’s good to be single. What else does the post say? Does it give other reasons or just the 2 you cherry-picked?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:54 AM
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What percentage of men generally abandon their wives when they get sick? And also, do women never abandon their partners when they get sick or when they stop being well off financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:52 AM
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It sounds like you want men to want sex more than their peace of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:51 AM
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You aren't making any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:16 AM
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Are not them. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:16 AM
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I get the feeling that you don't really like men. Its just a wild guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:36 PM
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Don't say rediculus things if you don't want people to laugh at you for them You're the only one supposedly laughing, and I don't actually care if you are. In fact, im glad you are because laughter is good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:45 PM
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Lmao is good not having a girlfriend because you don't have to worry about her leaving and not having a girlfriend. What else does the post say?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:32 PM
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Plenty of men would be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:40 AM
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Sex is not worth losing your peace over. Also, you can get sex while still being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:27 AM
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it's not going to cost as much as their entire earnings. Unfortunately many women have the mentality that "His money is our money and my money is my money". So being single for a man saves a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:25 AM
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but it's certainly not cheaper. As a man it definitely is. Many women almost require men to spend money on them in some way, shape or form and to always be paying for dates and other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:09 AM
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I will never understand why people make their happiness dependent on a partner… Yeah, its actually pretty absurd when you think about it. Its basically outsourcing your happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:46 AM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:08 AM

Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:22 PM

If a man expects me to lead it just makes me lose attraction. No one has to lead anyone. This is how genuine relationships work. Its supposed to be 2 intelligent people coming together and walking together. One doesn't need to follow the other, unless she lacks intelligence. and planning dates too Planning dates is actually feminine and it makes sense for women to do it. A masculine man has more important things to do than to plan dates. I prefer for the man to lead. What is it in you that likes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:40 AM

Initially, it's better for the man to lead. What is it in women that makes them so eager to be led? He needs to show her he is serious, intentional, and has a plan. In my world, the same applies to the woman. It's masculine. Masculinity has nothing to do with anything you mentioned. Most men do those things but they aren't truly masculine. They dont think for themselves, they dont question authority and they dont rebel, which is what masculinity actually is, not planning dates. Like he is a litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:27 AM

But from a woman's side, if the man isn't planning dates or asking you out, that is a sign to cut your losses and walk away. Why can't a woman also plan dates and reciprocate what she thinks the man should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:18 AM

Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:10 AM

Why would you say this? To make the point that a woman finding other women interesting doesnt mean they're actually interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:08 AM

Doesn’t mean adults are superior I didnt say they are. I just said children find other children interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:07 AM

but at some point, I felt like he was just using me for ego validation and didn't actually want anything with me. Atleast now you know how men feel. felt like he kept expecting me to do more and prove myself This is exactly how many women are as well. when the effort isn't reciprocated, when one person is basically carrying the connection, that person has to accept this isn't going anywhere and walk away. This is why i said chasing is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:05 AM

Do you really not understand sarcasm? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:02 AM

I like a man very much currently and he knows I like him but he is not moving towards me What's stopping you from moving towards him, like men generally do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:54 PM

but if someone actually likes you, you don't have to chase them. That's literally what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:49 PM

You're obsessed with me, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:49 PM

Why would you just lie blatantly? Show me where I "admitted" this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:48 PM

I find women very interesting Children find other children interesting, but adults generally dont find children interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:47 PM

it's always the same theme - Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:45 PM

This is just a roundabout way of you saying you either didnt read or understand my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:53 PM

You can also relate to women I actually do relate to women and get along well with them. This doesnt mean i have to pretend like most women are interesting. In fact, i would have a much easier time dating if I just focused on sex instead of trying to find interesting and aware women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:43 PM

Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, women generally tend to be uninteresting, and there are reasons for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:20 PM

Calling a group “uninteresting” and saying they “suck” at conversation isn’t neutral observation, it’s a value judgement. Am I supposed to pretend like most women are interesting, when they arent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:40 PM

Resenting women for being selective isn’t. No one is resenting women. Pointing out that many women are uninteresting and suck at holding conversations isnt resentment. Its an observation. Esther Vilar is less a reference than a tell. To you, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:28 PM

What are you talking about? You didnt ask a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:23 PM

Oh yes, that’s exactly what men on this sub think chasing means. That's extremely unlikely. I’ve had men say that nothing counts unless the woman expresses interest verbally, asks him for his number, asks him on a date, lovebombs him with compliments and then grapes him. Unfortunately without you providing sources to support what youre saying, it ends up just being what you're saying with no supporting evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:16 PM

Another man’s definition might be “I get to stay home in my underwear, never socialize or talk to women, but I expect them to beat a path to my door and demand that we fuck just because I exist” Literally no man thinks this is what chasing means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:45 AM

So you don’t even understand how a person brings supporting evidence to an argument? What supporting evidence did the man you're working hard to defend bring?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:36 AM

We’re talking about a guy who said that if you hate everything about interacting with women, just leave them alone. Yeah, and he's a whiteknight, thats why he said that. The post has nothing to do with hating interacting with women. The only reason he would make that comment is to whiteknight, thats why he didn't actually address the points made.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:31 AM

We're talking about whiteknights. You're not actually quoting what the person whose comment i replied to said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:19 AM

Why do you think it’s an insult to accuse men of liking women? Whiteknights don't just like women, they allow themselves to be used by them, which to you i imagine is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:15 AM

The same exact men Please prove that its the same exact men. putting in effort to show a woman you actually care about her is a waste of time. This isn't what chasing means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:13 AM

You could literally just google it instead of continuing this. It means to pursue someone, who isnt fully reciprocating, hence the word "chasing".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:32 AM

All this time you're wasting on this post could be spent doing other things. Ignore the post and let those who are interested engage with it. Why would I remove a post just because you agree with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:28 AM

To agree with your post Oh okay. I'm glad you agree with the post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:22 AM

Well, you know best.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:22 AM

Good luck Thanks 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:22 AM

Chasing can mean anything. In the context of relationships between men and women it means something relatively specific. Maybe Google it or something. Why did you make a debate post if you dont want to debate? Because if I dont put the debate tag, the mods remove the post for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:21 AM

Yeah, blue pilled men are amazing. Women love them and they definitely don't use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:20 AM

How is it possible to have sex with a woman without chasing her? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:19 AM

Why are you avoiding answering the question so I can actually engage in the debate of your thread? Because anyone with basic intelligence who doesnt understand what "chasing" means doesnt really seem worth debating with. Even 15 years old know what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:18 AM

Well, if the NPC says it then it must be true. It must know what i wrote better than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:17 AM

And you lack the basic social intelligence to understand that you don't need to chase a woman to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:16 AM

Im sure he'll be glad to hear that from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:15 AM

why are we even bothering arguing this? Why did you bother commenting on the post? Just downvote and ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:15 AM

If you are a low value man, chasing women is waste of time Chasing women is what low value men do. Women aren’t having their egos boosted by the majority of the men who chase them. Basic understanding of human psychology would tell you that it does boost their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:14 AM

I've read this post hundreds of time. Interesting. Send me a link a the last post like this that you've read. The only good interaction with a woman is her immediately wanting to fuck you. Being nice to her for any reason is going to turn her into an egomaniac. Also, girls are stinky and boring. The only thing a woman can offer you is sex." The NPC says it read the post and then continues to prove that it didnt actually read it. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:12 AM

Idk You literally dont know what chasing in the context of dating means?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:10 AM

What do you think it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:05 AM

you were complaining that men had to chase women No, thats not what's happening in the post. and it’s making those bitches think their special These are your words, not mine. So if you don’t get to fuck them, don’t waste your time. No, im saying chasing to get to fuck them is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:04 AM

I haven't hear that since the early days of the internet. If you've been called a whiteknight since the early days of the internet, thats something you need to reflect on. There has to be some truth to it since not all men get called whiteknights on the internet. If you feel like an unfuckable little troll who can't imagine how a woman could ever feel any kind of desire for you because your self esteem is so appalling, hating chicks won't help you. You didnt actually read the post, did you? You …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:58 AM

Well, no because women arent prey and attraction to them isnt supposed to be predatory. You can have sex with a woman without chasing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:56 AM

The point is the urge to chase isn't biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:53 AM

Someone has to do some kind of chasing. If someone has to (they dont actually) it makes more sense for it to be the woman, not the man who generally brings much more to the table than just looks. and agree no chasing then wonder why you’re lonely. A man who is lonely would never suggest whats written in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:52 AM

Found the whiteknight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:50 AM

I completely agree that if you don’t like women snd just want to use them for sex you should just buy a flesh light and leave us alone. You didnt read the post, did you? The title and and the introduction made you emotionally reactive and you rushed to comment without understanding what is being said. You're agreeing with your own ideas of what you think the post says, which is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:50 AM

It really can't be overstated how much they're socialised to be the passive actors in relationships. True. And men encourage this passivity by chasing them and doing all kinds of things for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:48 AM

It's literally a men's biological urge to chase women No, its a biological urge to want to have sex with them, not to chase them. If you knew sex wasn't involved, would you still chase?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:46 AM
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No one mentioned narcissism except you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:36 PM
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have an amazingly high opinion of women Clearly not. To you women are commodities who cost money based on how they look. Become a strong leader who works hard and you will quickly find a nice and pretty lady who will be with you. The problem with most women is they're so eager to be led by other people and they dont even feel embarrassed by this. They're sheep which is why they're easily controlled. You are not at the level of the ladies you are looking for. You don't know me. I'm not looking fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:53 AM
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You believe women should think like men. No, i believe they should think like adults who can take initiative, not just passive lumps of flesh. Women look for physical strength and provision. If this is all they look for, no wonder they end up unhappy. You're an adult. Provide for yourself. Don't use another human to do it for you in exchange of fake love. You don't desire a good-quality woman I do. Its just that to you it seems a good quality woman is a psychological child with no intelligence w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:20 AM
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This is because you dont like men who know their worth. You want men with low self esteem who you can easily manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:15 AM
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I can believe I'm a millionaire all I want, it's not going to pay my bills. Have you heard about the law of attraction and manifestation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:14 AM
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No, I've never talked to a woman or even hugged one. The reality is on some level women do see themselves as the prize when it comes to dating. They may not literally have the thought that they are the prize but they still do generally think for example that men should chase them instead of the other way around and that men should pay for dates and so on. This can only be possible if they think in some way that they are the prize. This doesnt mean they aren't insecure though. Both things can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:44 PM
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Well, they certainly act like they're are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:35 PM
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That's what men seeing themselves as the prize implies. Its about having a high self esteem and self image.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:23 PM
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it’s more so men raising their self-esteem That's what men seeing themselves as the prize is all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:21 PM
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Hardly anyone at all, male or female, wants a partner who's either so up themselves or desires to be with their partner so little that they think they're the prize and their partner should be grateful to be with them or whatever. Its ultimately about self-confidence, not being up yourself. Many women do genuinely think they are the prize, do you think that means they are up themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:20 PM
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This won’t ever work because men are more desperate for women than women are for men. This is basically part of how women manage to collectively create their own reality where men feel like they have to chase them. As long as men believe that they are more desperate for women than women are for men, they will be. Less men are asking women out today This is actually partially because men are now realising that many women aren't worth it. I don't say that to be mean but because it's just the truth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:58 PM
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Men aren’t the prize, though. Neither are women. But their belief that they are the prize makes men say stuff like this: Women can live without men easier than men can live without women because men have a stronger ego fixation on being able to attract a woman, and because women form stronger same sex friend networks than men do. Women have basically collectively figured out how to create their own reality where men think women are the prize but not men themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:54 PM
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Well, that settles it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:10 PM
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Which means its not a dumb perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:41 AM
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Telling you that your comment has no relevance to the content of the post (it actually didnt) isnt being defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:08 PM
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facts don’t care about your feelings I’m afraid, We both know men dont base who they like on what other men think so I dont know why you're putting on this act. Its pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:33 AM
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Again, men generally dont stop being into a woman just because other men aren't into her. No nonsense you say will change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:04 AM
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Sometimes if a person seems upset by their reality, the best way to help them is to point out the flaws in their reality. You're projecting your own nonsense onto the post. Both your comments have no relevance to what's actually written in the post. You just wanted attention. Good luck to you my friend. No need for this fakery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:49 AM
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one could just say the human mind. Well, no because men dont base who they like on whether other men find her attractive or not. That's a "special" quality only women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:34 AM
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Yes, that is how the female hivemind operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:53 AM
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You guys need to talk to women face-to-face and learn how to flirt a little. What's the point of this comment and how is it relevant to the content of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:12 AM
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If you read the whole post and came to the conclusion that even though im aware of the problem, I still contribute to it, you are not very sharp. Either that or you just want attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:17 AM
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That's not going to happen. That doesnt mean its not the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:10 AM
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doesn't matter what I do - as an individual man Well, it does. Collective behaviour is a combination of the individual behaviour of a group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:09 AM
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I knew something was up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:30 AM
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Maybe you are a confused person in general and youre projecting your confusion onto the post, which is why out of all the people who commented, youre the only only one who found it confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:39 PM
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No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:24 PM
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And wanting women to do the chasing is unlikely to make it happen. You missed the point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:03 AM
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You're just upset you're not considered a prize. Can you point out where in the post it implies im upset or are not considered a prize?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:01 AM
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This whole thing seems based on fantasies In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:59 AM
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Chasing involves some sort of desperation and the other party running away. Exactly. Unfortunately, most men don't seem to get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:03 PM
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You're not understanding me, i dont have to get over it because I don't have to play by those rules. I dont need to chase women to attract them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:53 AM
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Therefore, they have to chase No, men dont actually have to chase. A leader definitely needs followers to keep his position as a leader. Yeah, but its utterly idiotic for the leader to chase people who will let him lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:31 AM
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What use is vetting if you end up reproducing with NPCs and men you don't even respect like most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:07 AM
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Everything you do to make yourself more appealing to the opposite sex is, in essence, chasing. So women chase men as well then. Since they already chase men, why insist on chasing them too? Two people chasing each other is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:06 AM
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You really cant think of how else to attract women without chasing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:02 AM
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Read the last sentence of the comment you’re responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:55 AM
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That’s why women do more of the vetting. 🤷‍♀️ They don't actually though, which is why many have kids with NPCs, and others end up in relationships with men who abuse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:52 AM
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I didnt say you were simping. I said what you described is "just the way it works" only if you're a simp. If youre not a simp, you know there are other ways besides chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:50 AM
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When men can take our place in getting pregnant, maybe then we can talk about social conditioning having a strong impact here lol. Well, whether youre willing to acknowledge it or not, it does have a strong impact, which is why men who transcend that programming/conditioning don't have kids or get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:42 AM
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I mean you can stop playing The comment you're responding to implies that i dont play those games, so how can I stop playing something I never started playing? i would watch women throw themselves at you. Oh wait. This comment would mean something if you actually knew me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:34 AM
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Well i don't know, I thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:31 AM
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It might have something to do with women being the ones who bare all the risks of reproduction or something. It has nothing to do with this and more to do with social conditioning. Most men were primarily raised by women who conditioned them to be a certain way which makes it so that when they grow up, they're more likely to be simps who dont know their worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:29 AM
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You may not like it and it may be inconvenient but that's just the way it works. Only if you're a simp. Some of us don't have to play by these silly rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:28 AM
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That means you missed some factors that do influence it. Like what for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:26 AM
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your logic is corrupt and has errors In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:21 AM

“She” lol Okay, "He". Sorry, I assumed you were straight. there is no specific “she” No shit. "She" doesnt mean a specific woman 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:59 AM

leaves the ball in her court Which isnt an issue if she actually likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:02 AM
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Giving or asking, same difference There is a clear difference between the two, which is why some women in the comments are saying they feel safer when a men gives them his number because they might not like giving their number to a men they dont know Several women have told me they like digging around in men's social-media profiles before a first date So what? I dont want a woman digging around my social media before she actually knows me and I dont want to see her social media posts before know…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:01 AM
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you've just outed yourself as an old. Oh no! Somehow young women who i give my number to have always ended up texting me. Its like none of what you wrote actually matters in reality. You really think a woman who is attracted to you gives a shit about whether or not you get her social media immediately or give her your number? 😂 Also, the post is literally about giving a woman your number, not asking for hers. Did you even read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:47 AM
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No its unavoidable risk when giving numbers so id suggest giving discord instead and never numbers. Well, I've never had an issues with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:26 PM
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I gave a guy my number on a dating app Well, if had had given you his number instead this would've been avoided coz you could have chosen not to text him and delete his number. Also, both genders do what you've just described.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:18 PM
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Chances are the kind of man who gives women his number instead of asking for theirs isnt gonna harrass women, otherwise he wouldn't take the approach that makes them feel safe by giving his number instead of asking for theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:13 PM
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Then when a man offers his number (which is unlikely to happen to you), just turn it down. You think someone is gonna force you to text him or something? 😂 Its more dangerous to give out your number. Let's use our brains, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:08 PM
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Ironically, you dont have a very high opinion of women. Very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:34 AM
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women are not generally the purs7ers, men are. So what? If someone approaches relationships based on what gender roles dictate youre supposed to do, i would hope they dont text me if I give them my number.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:54 AM
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explain to me the merits of me calling a man who doesnt ask for my number and call me This is like a man saying "explain to keep the merits of calling or texting an attractive woman who gives me her number and doesnt ask for mine". Its dumb and its making an issue out of literally nothing. If you find him attractive enough and you arent a completely soulless blob you'll likely text him because youre attracted to him and he has made it obvious that he's also attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:58 AM
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And the empirically correct answer is that you are wrong My own experience tells me im right but I guess you ,being someone who has never tried the approach with a woman would somehow know better than a guy who has done it several times successfully. If I had to theorize about the reasons If you had experienced something personally, would you care to listen to someone who hasn't theorising about it? Be honest. What idiot would actually do that? Its good to remember that just because you haven't …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:30 AM
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There’s a whole app for this in bumble I'm sure you can see the difference between matching on an app and actually having a real interaction with a woman. Also, you'll get a "hi" either way if she replies after you text her when you ask for her number.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:27 AM
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Amazing response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:26 AM
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but those women were visibly interested in conversation That's how the approach works. You give them your number only if you get the vibe that they like you in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:25 AM
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how does it benefit me This is a great way to approach human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:23 AM
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Amazing way to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:23 AM
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Part of the point of the approach is to filter out women who dont reciprocate because they're so self important that they "would never text a man first". What sane man would want to date someone who thinks like that? The whole relationship would be a one-way thing, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:19 AM
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Not really. If youre thirsty and desperate its better to leave women and alone and work on yourself first so that you stop being thirsty and desperate. Do you think any woman finds desperate men attractive? What are you even saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:55 PM
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Right…the man has to be attractive enough (hot enough, viscerally) for her to accept and then make the move of texting him first. So somehow attraction only matters if he gives you his number instead of asking for it? The man has to be attractive enough either way. Thats how dating works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:45 PM
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It’s not childish to acknowledge the differences in men and women. Unfortunately if you're so childish that to you the difference between men and women equates to a man having to ask for your number otherwise your social programming crashes, you're basically the kind of woman i would hope wouldn't text me. This is why in the post I said its a win-win. Only women who are beyond your particular kind of programming will text me. It’s how you’ll make her feel doing it. How do you know how it feels? …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:43 PM
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You're basically broadcasting to her that you're too much of a pussy looooolololol Which is why they generally text me within 24 hours. That actually makes so much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:40 PM
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I dont think this is true. As long as a man is moderately attractive to the woman, it has the possibility to "work". Work isn't really the right word because its not a trick. Its one human giving his number to another. Nothing needs to "work". Either she likes him and texts him or she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:02 PM
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This isn't actually reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:58 PM
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she's not going to steer the convo in all likelihood. The point is you will not only have her number but will also know that she is interested, which you wouldn't really know for a while if she replies just because you texted her and she's bored so she replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:58 PM
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I suppose some men dont feel the need to show off and also prefer to keep the mystery for a while. I dont really want to see much of a woman's social media posts before getting to know her first. What people post on social media is curated. It kills the mystery. But thats just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:56 PM
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This is just signaling you’re not assertive enough to pursue something you want. It’ll attract masculine egalitarian women These are just words. You dont actually know any of what youre saying since its very unlikely that a man you find attractive has ever given you his number. One human being giving their contact info to another has nothing to do with being masculine or feminine. These are childish ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:54 PM
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The reality is unless you're a lifeless blob thats extremely passive and socially programmed, chances are you'll atleast consider texting a man you find physically attractive who gives you his number. Obviously you can also just exchange numbers instead of you just having his. If youre interested in him you can actually offer yours in return. This is how reciprocal relationships begin. If you are that passive and programmed to not text him or also give him your number, you would actually be doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:49 PM
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yes, how do you think I came to the conclusion that this is a skill most of us need to develop. Fair enough. More than 3?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:33 PM
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You will likely know how she feels about you before you trade numbers Ofcourse. You dont just give out your number indiscriminately. Basic social intelligence would tell you to gauge her interest before giving her your number.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:31 PM
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Also I would still see that as him taking the first step. By giving a woman your number, you are showing you are interested. Exactly. Its showing interest in a way that stands out and also makes it so that the woman doesnt have to give out her contact info to a stranger she isn't sure about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:30 PM
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Most women are passive And they need a masculine man to help them become more proactive. One of the reasons why women are much easier to influence from the perspective of the people in power is because they tend to be so passive. but most of us have to. Because you think you do. Have you ever tried giving a woman your number? If not, your comment isnt based on experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:27 PM
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You giving a girl your number to text you is passive Nope. Approaching a woman and putting myself out there by giving her my number isnt being passive. Text me if you want to lol. "I dont have your number. Here's mine, text me if you wanna see each other again." That's how the conversation would go. If this woman doesnt text me despite being attracted to me simply because she's programmed to think a human giving her his contact information is passive and not masculine, I dogged a bullet. I want …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:24 PM
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It’s really weird to see some people “collecting numbers”, or whatever The whole point of the post is about giving your number, not collecting them 🤦 In your perspective, what is the post actually saying, regardless of whether you agree with it or not? I feel like you didnt actually read it and instead only read your own thoughts about it based on the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:19 PM
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Putting the pressure on women to take the initiative will filter out women who would have been more interested after knowing you. That's one way of looking at it, and its more of a scarcity mindset. the only way she will be interested in you is solely due to physical attraction. Which is why in the first paragraph of the post i mentioned physical attractiveness. This goes without saying in relation to dating. And often times that level of attraction will cause you to be too intimidating for her …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:02 PM
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They aren’t doing anything. That's the point 🤦 Surely being proactive and giving women who are interested in you your number is better than continuing not doing anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:57 PM
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This often results in sex without trading numbers first Whether you have sex or not, you still need some way to contact her if you want to see her again. Unless you just communicate telepathically. So im guessing you'll either ask for her instagram or whatever, but the whole point of the post is not asking and instead getting them to actually initiate things with you after meeting, whether you have sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:54 PM
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Unfortunately you saying this tells me you don't really know what being masculine means. Just because you text someone first doesn't mean you're being masculine 🤦 Also, unless you're just a really passive person, I'm sure that if an attractive man gave you his number after talking to you for a while and making you laugh and have a good interaction you would text him eventually. On the other hand, this approach is great because it filters out women who think being proactive in showing interest in…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:51 PM
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Some of us actually WANT dudes to stop struggling and do well If they keep doing what they've been doing they'll keep struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:46 PM
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It is worthless Okay grandpa. More relevant for me personally is if I can initially look in their eyes and tell they’re attracted to me. How do you think the process of talking to her and then giving her your number at the end of the interaction works? Also, you don't indiscriminately give out your number like a desperate businessman. You gauge whether they're actually into you or not by doing things like making eye contact and making conversation. This seems very simple to understand. If they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:45 PM
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Most men strengthen that muscle and are still thirsty and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:39 PM
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