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What exactly are the women doing to manipulate the men? You should read 'The Manipulated Man' by Esther Vilar
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 03:22 AM
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And whose fault is that? The man who gets manipulated, ofcourse. The point is its still manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:44 AM
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And truly how smart are you if you'll let an unintelligent woman manipulate you because you like her. The desire to have sex makes people do stupid things, especially men. You know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:40 AM
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she said that women were less intelligent than men, while also claiming women could manipulate men Well, if you actually read the book where she mentions this, you would be more informed about what you're talking about. She wrote that at birth men and women have the same level of intelligence but because women use men as providers of resources they let their intelligence deliberately disintegrate because they dont need it to get what they want from men. In relation to manipulating men, an intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:22 AM
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Saying something has been a certain way for a long time doesn't change the fact that its problematic. Also, historically in different cultures women also provided resources and did things like farming and even mining in ancient Africa for example. They weren't just there to provide "beauty and companionship". They actually did things and contributed to their relationships and families. Its maybe only in Europe where women weren't seen as equal and depended on men to provide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:08 AM
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no 6th or 7th grade girl on earth is thinking this way, much less "most" women. The author was being faecitous and hyperbolic to make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:33 PM
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I have a feeling Esther Vilar didn’t write it because she hates women but because its what she observed in the behaviour of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:30 PM
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Okay 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:04 PM
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I guess Esther Vilar who i quoted in the postand who was more direct than my post was also broke and upset that she wasn't getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:01 PM
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Imagine commenting saying "This feels more a rant about broke unmasculine men complaining they can’t get casual sex as easily", and then complaining about personal attacks. You cant be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 09:55 PM
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The point was that saying "we earn our own money" means nothing when you still expect a man to pay for what you eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 09:52 PM
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Or to put it another way, they have planned a future for themselves which consists of choosing a man and letting him do all the work. In return for his support, they are prepared to let him make use of their vagina at certain given intervals. The minute a woman has made this decision, she ceases to develop her mind." I think her assessment has some basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 09:50 PM
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It’s like they do not believe it when we say the money we earn is our shared funds I wonder why they don't believe it. Its not like women act in ways that make it hard to believe or anything...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:11 PM
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Uhh yea he has paid since the first date 🤷🏻‍♀️ Are you consciously supporting the point of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:47 PM
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Whenever a man resorts to calling other men unmasculine and broke for criticising aspects of women's behaviour, i know what he is. I think deep down you also know what you are. Even women who have commented so far haven't resorted to that. And all of them disagree with the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:44 PM
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And here comes the white knight. Right on time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:39 PM
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Lmao you think my partner doesn’t know that I can afford to pay for myself? We are talking about dates, before a relationship. Does a meal cost 5 figures these days? 😹 You would think it does with the way women hate paying for themselves. who provide and prefer doing so For reasons explained in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:38 PM
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Men and women value different things. Yeah, women value money and resources over connection as you've shown. Are you gonna lecture them on not having self awareness? Lol The lack of self awareness comes in when you expect men to pay for you to show they can afford your lifestyle while you don't even seem to be able to afford paying for yourself, hence expecting a man to pay for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:24 PM
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What is there to get? Women focus on men's money because they like to know that he can afford their lifestyle. And thats what matters to them. Isn't that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:17 PM
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Likewise, if financial generosity is an important component of someone’s desired relationship structure, withdrawing it may make the relationship incompatible like what they originally agreed to... What i find interesting is the fact that its only women who are concerned about financial generousity while not being financially generous themselves. Its like "I find financial generosity important so pay for my food otherwise I'll stop liking you." 😂 The lack of self awareness is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:15 PM
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By expecting him to pay. Imagine making more money than someone and yet expecting them to pay for you on a date. I find that kind of mentality amazing and very specific to women. Men are definitely not like this. Even if a man makes less than a woman, he would never dream of expecting her to pay for him. And yet women have no problem with it and actually choose who to date based on it . Its really amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:12 PM
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Its amazing what women say to justify using men for money. You keep supporting the main idea of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:04 PM
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It's because a woman making more money than a man makes them feel insecure So women choose their partners based on money for men's own good? Okay 😂 And men are very shallow lol Yes. And they're still less shallow than women as you've just shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:02 PM
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Men generally don't care if women can afford the man's lifestyle Exactly. Because men tend to be less shallow than women. The funny thing is what you're saying actually helps to prove what the ppst is saying. Its amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:57 PM
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A man paying in the initial dating process shows that he can afford the same lifestyle as the woman. This is where the self awareness is lacking. A man paying for a woman shows he can afford her lifestyle. It doesn't actually but okay. What does the fact that a woman requires a man to pay for her show? Does it show that she can afford his lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:51 PM
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We also want to be physically attracted to our man. We want companionship. We want commonalities. We want love. We want respect. We want to enjoy spending time with our man. After the resources are secured, ofcourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:46 PM
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If you cannot afford dinner, then you cannot afford to date a high earning woman I feel exactly the same about women who expect men to pay... Women generally want their equals. Which is why they expect a man to pay for them? then she must pay his way, Just like she expects the man to do... It seems self awareness is not many women's strongest quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:45 PM
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Then you'll get more people to agree with you. I dont care about that. I prefer my posts to be controversial, as long as what im saying is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:42 PM
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If you're stressed, depressed and whatever else, especially to the point where you cant be intimate with your partner, something is definitely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:41 PM
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They want resources from men. Everything else is secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:40 PM
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or those that are high wage earners themselves and want to make sure a man can afford to be with them Wow. Making sure a man can afford to be with them by being a beggar who requires men to pay for her food. Genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:39 PM
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So you’re fine with women wanting resources Yes, it gives me something to make posts about and shows the truth about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:38 PM
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That a woman not wanting sex with her partner she's supposedly attracted to is a sign that something is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:34 PM
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Then what do you want? I don't want anything. I just like making observations about human behaviour. You want women to think I do want women to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:34 PM
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Thats what makes it more confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:32 PM
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You want woman to come up to you and throw their panties in your face. Thats gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:29 PM
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All women bad Your words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:23 PM
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It means everything Exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:22 PM
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The children are an excuse women use to justify using men for resources. Which is why most aren't antinatalists. She wants a man who can provide resources for those children she wants. The children are just an excuse to use a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:16 PM
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Okay 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:13 PM
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and make more money than young men Sounds like they're the ones who should pay for men on dates rather than expecting men to do it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:13 PM
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Look, the reality is the men who have sex with your friends see a different side of them. This is just the reality of sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:12 PM
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Lower libidos, stress, body image, stress, finances, stress, hormones, stress, medications, stress, resentment, depression, anxiety, life issues, etc.. So it doesn't just mean you dont want to have sex. It means there are problems you are having, including psychological ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:11 PM
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No, you dont. The men they date obviously see a different side of them than you do. You just dont know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:05 PM
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It just means we don’t want to have sex. Not wanting to have sex at all with a man you're supposedly attracted to is very sus. I get not wanting to have sex on a particular day or period in your life. But not wanting sex at all with a man you claim to be attracted to doesn't make sense, unless you're asexual which is something you should tell your boyfriend before things get serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:04 PM
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Some are. Some aren’t But most aren't, thats the point. If being pregnant and having children was so bad and didn't benefit them, most women would be antinatalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:01 PM
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Right, but would you disagree with the idea that the men who date them experience them differently and see a different side of them than you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:59 PM
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Well, you dont date women as a man so you wouldn't really know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:55 PM
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Why aren't most women antinatalists?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:52 PM
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if a woman stopped having sex with her partner, it’s likely the relationship would come to an end as well. Why would a woman want to continue a relationship with a man she has stopped wanting to have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:51 PM
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Many men would break up if women decided they didn’t want sex in their relationships. Why would a woman want to be in a relationship with a man she doesnt want to have sex with? Shouldn't she be glad if he breaks up the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:49 PM
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Just because you pay for a woman's dinner it does not mean her feelings are dependent on you paying! Well, for many women, if he doesn't pay for herself food, she stops liking him so...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:47 PM
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Thinking material things like money is a fair exchange for your soul is very revealing...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:49 AM
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Biological reproduction wise. Biology doesnt make you use men for money. A man fails when he isn’t given the opportunity. A woman fails when she picks the wrong man. In other words, you're saying women's success or failure depends on men. Like they have no agency of their own. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:46 AM
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It’s pretty amazing that men created a system where women had to depend on them financially, tied providing to masculinity, None of the men alive today are responsible for this. and are now shocked that some people still follow those roles generations later. Nobody is shocked by it. Pointing it out isn't the same as shock. We earn our own money And yet many still expect men to pay for dates otherwise they stop liking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:45 AM
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Society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:39 AM
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Yes, because it doesnt matter. Entitlement is what i said it is and you know it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:00 AM
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It doesn't matter. The point is the definition, which is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:44 AM
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The definition i gave is literally from a dictionary...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:24 AM
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Its an attitude where someone feels the world owes them favors, attention, or special treatment. And its the trait of someone who isnt a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:19 AM
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You are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:58 AM
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Well, women expecting men to pay is an epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:57 AM
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And if you have most men paying for dates and you not paying for them, your pool is going to be a lot smaller Yeah, thats one of the effects of filtering out people with qualities you don't like. Its much better to be single than to be with a woman who's feelings towards you are dependent on payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:52 AM
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Do you know what the word entitlement means? If so, what does it mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:40 AM
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Sounds like amazing relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:01 AM
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So that makes entitlement okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 04:13 AM
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Because you expect them to. That is where the entitlement comes in. Its one thing for a man to pay for you while you're okay with paying for yourself. Its another thing to expect him to pay by default (and stop liking him if he doesn't) just because he's a man and you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 04:01 AM
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Like I said, you can't understand how you're entitled and its not your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:56 AM
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there are posts of men complaining about paying for dates like 4 times a week on this sub Why would that be, if there are plenty of women who dont expect them to pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:55 AM
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sweetie i DO understand Clearly not. Someone wanting you to pay for your own food without judging a man for not doing it for you isn't bitter. who has expectations of what you want in a woman but women are evil for having expectations of you. Like I said. You cant understand and its not your fault. The way you were conditioned has made it so that you lack self awareness and think being entitled is something great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:40 AM
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so you choosing not to pay for a date says something about who you are too. This is why I said i know you can't understand this and its not your fault. Imagine being so entitled to someone paying for what you eat that you say them not paying for you says something about who they are, while being completely devoid of self awareness that you cant see that you're the one in the wrong for not even wanting to pay for yourself... A parasite would also say someone not letting it suck their blood says s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:28 AM
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so someone’s actions are a part of who they are? Like I said, someone expecting someone else to pay for what they eat for example says something about what kind of person they are. Its not part of who they are but its an expression of their entitlement and parasitic mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:18 AM
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that’s like plenty of girls Not really. The average woman has a problem with paying for herself on dates which is why many men in these comments are saying letting women pay for themselves leaves them with an extremely small number of women to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:03 AM

then a woman is separate from her job. If your job involves killing people for example, that says something about you as a person. And if a woman's "job" is taking off her clothes for money, that also says something about her as a person. And if a woman has a problem with paying for food she ate, that also says something about her as a person. I know you cant understand this and its not your fault. You cant help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:55 AM
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a man not wanting to date a woman who does only fans is the same as a woman not wanting to date a man who refuses to pay for a date No serious person actually believes this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:25 AM
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"How come men usually dont want to date women who take their clothes off on camera for money." - You
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:20 AM

You can write however many essays you want the truth still remains that no intelligent person asks someone how they aren't separate from what they provide. What someone provides is external to them. Money is external, resources are external. So to ask how someone isnt separate from what is external to them shows an amazing lack of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:15 AM
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we all have to dig through what we don't want to find the person we do, ya know? Yeah, thats kinda the point of the post. To filter out women i dont want to be with because of their character and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:08 AM
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how are you separate from what you provide? This is definitely not a question a person with any intelligence would ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:04 AM
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Which says something about so called "female nature" and proves alot of men throughout history right 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:37 PM
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whatever, or he's up to some kind of mind games. Women test men, its only fair that men also test women. And to be fair, being tested by having to pay for food you ate is an extremely low bar which all adult women who are genuine should be able to pass. It shouldn't be an issue for a woman to pay for food she ate. If a man expected her to pay for him then its understandable if she doesnt want to. Ironically, she would likely want him to pay for her. Alot of women seem to lack self awareness in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:02 PM
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like men who are generous and willing to shoulder the majority of the finances Wow. Thats so surprising coming from a woman. Its all about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:48 AM
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🥱…use your own words No need.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:47 AM
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"Thanks to wife and child, man has acquired an excuse, an artificial justification for his wretched existence, for his subjection. He calls this arbitrarily created system, this holy unit, his 'family.' Woman accepts his services in the name of the `family,' accepts the hostages he entrusts to her, and proceeds to carry out his desires by binding him ever more tightly to her and blackmailing him until he dies. And whose gain is it? - hers." - Esther Vilar
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:12 AM
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Love doesn’t mean impractical. But it does mean a certain amount of money, we know that much. Its basically for sale, atleast yours is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:32 AM
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you want a woman who pays, you can filter for that. Yes, thats the point of the post. And plenty of men are resistant to paying on a first date as well btw. They might be resistant but they do it anyway because they know that with the majority of women, no pay = no play.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:14 AM
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It really is 🥹 Yeah, nothing says real love like requiring a certain amount of money to be able to "love" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:12 AM
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It is also a requirement for him to make equal or more too. Sounds like real love. I know you’re seething about it lol. Well, as the post says, I make a conscious effort to filter out women who think like you do, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:45 AM
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What resources? Money? I have money too. Greed works in mysterious ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:16 AM
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Yeah no I wouldn’t have I know. Like I said, some women (many) are "pay to play". No payment = no relationship. Thats is not a genuine relationship no matter how you try to justify it. because we’d be fundamentally incompatible. If all it takes for you to be "fundamentally incompatible" with a man is you paying for your own meal then you are not a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:15 AM
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Yeah, this is the kind of NPC thinking I want to avoid by letting a woman pay for herself. I dont want to be with someone who thinks letting me spend money on her is her somehow her showing interest in me. That is so low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:11 AM
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Thats ridiculous. The reality is a woman who isnt okay with paying for herself doesnt actually like the man she's on a date with otherwise she wouldn't even care about something so superficial. Many of the comments on this post have convinced me that most people (especially women) are NPCs who cant really think for themselves. And see the world as revolving around then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:54 AM
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Truth hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:52 AM
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Resources, ofcourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:50 AM
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I’m the one that has to put my body through hell to birth his children so yes I expect a generous man to take care of me…? "Women...need children to justify their laziness, stupidity, and lack of responsibility. Both sexes exploit the child...for their own ends. When a man engenders children, he gives a woman hostages in hopes that she will exploit him forever." - Esther Vilar Every relationship is “transactional.” Not genuine ones with real love. It would be a first date so no I would not have …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:49 AM
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just laid out examples of my generosity…? And yet you didn’t quote or respond to any of them. Because its transactional generousity. The man has already been generous and continues to be, so you have to put on act of being generous too (after he has already been generous and continues to be) so that he doesnt wake up to the fact that his relationship is transactional and he's being used. Or if he hadn’t paid then we wouldn’t have been in a relationship Exactly. Imagine being a man who knows that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:04 AM
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Clearly the whole generosity thing is just a justification to use men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:01 AM
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I lose attraction after they show that they aren’t generous Like expecting you to pay for them, right? That would definitely be a sign of a lack of generosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:13 AM
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If it’s our first date then yes I would like them to pay. Exactly. No pay, no play, much like prostitution. If your husband hadn't paid, he wouldn't be your husband. Thats real love right there. I am filtering for generous men While not being generous yourself. That is unsurprising. Also, basically all men know to just pay, even if they aren't generous, just like they know to pay when they visit a prostitute. Its part of the transaction. I’m not going to waste my time on a stingy man. You're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:11 AM
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I don't think there are that many shallow women TBH. Okay 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:01 AM
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No they’re based on love and generosity Nothing says love and generosity like only liking someone as long as they pay. I’m happily married Im sure you're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:00 AM

It’s not about the money exactly Sure... but how generous and caring he is as a partner. Just like you're so generous and caring that you dont even like paying for yourself and will stop liking your date if they dont pay for you, right? 😂 Some crazy mental gymnastics you got there 🤸‍♀️ Not really. If you require payment to like someone, you arent that different from a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:58 AM
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Sounds like a very miserable experience. Says someone who's relationships are based on payment...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:34 AM
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If payment changes how you feel about a man, you aren't very different from a prostitute. The main difference is prostitutes dont pretend like they arent what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:33 AM
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So he's a bum that can't afford to date If a man is a bum for letting you pay for yourself, what are you for expecting him to pay for you? Self awareness seems to not exist in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:31 AM
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I've had to argue to pay for the first date before Weird. it aint worth the trouble to sit with a douche.. for a burger... And yet such women still exist 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:29 AM

I will not be going out with anybody unless they are paying for me Prostitution 101
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:31 AM
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Its much better than being with a woman who has a parasitic mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:30 AM
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This is the exact mentality men avoid by letting women pay for themselves. No self respecting man wants to be with an NPC that thinks like this. Its infinitely better to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:00 AM
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Thats part of my point. A man who has standards that go against that and does something he knows most women will probably not like (letting them pay for themselves) isn't going to complain when said women act predictably (not wanting a second date).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:02 AM
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think the kind of man in that position would complain about never getting second date. Thats illogical. Men who dont pay for the specific reason of filtering out women know what they're getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:50 AM
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Do you think a man who doesnt pay on dates on purpose to filter out women would really be surprised if some of those women dont want to go on a second date?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:43 AM
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After that? I never went out with him again. Well, this is exactly the mentality I'm trying to filter out. I enjoy being alone, and if im going to be with someone, I dont want it to be someone who stops liking me because I didnt pay. There's no genuine relationship that can be formed with such a woman because her feelings are dependent on payment. I would rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:41 AM
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Yeah, and I said "Oh I get it"...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:38 AM
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So women only care about money so much because of men? Oh I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:31 AM
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Nope, him paying or not had 0 influence on future dates Well, if true then thats very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:30 AM
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in real life they would just stop talking to the guy. I know. But I'm happy being single, and if im gonna be with someone, I don't want it to be someone who stops liking me because I didnt pay. You cant have a healthy and genuine relationship with such a woman. I'd rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:29 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:27 AM
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Im guessing he probably knew it was some kind of test and if he didn't pay, he wouldn't get a second date. I think you also know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:27 AM
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People who are struggling financially should focus on reaching a point of stability before dating. Says a woman who doesnt even like paying for herself. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:23 AM
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yes women do care about looks Yeah. Where they differ from men is they care about looks and money. They literally have a pay to play mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:18 AM
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Im not obsessed with money Its not about the money. Its about filtering out women with genuine interest that isnt dependent on you paying for them. Like I said in the post, this is for men who have standards beyond looks and want to filter out women who are entitled or whose feelings for them are dependent on whether or not they pay. Some men dont care and just want someone to act like she likes them and thats fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:16 AM
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Exactly. Unfortunately many simps (along with women) dont seem to get this. They think its about money. When its about filtering out women with genuine interest that isn't dependent on whether or not you pay for her meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:09 AM
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Simps have been converted into thinking the way women do. If a man who pays for himself is stingy, what does that make the women who doesn't pay for herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:05 AM
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because men care about looks lol Women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:04 AM
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Men need to understand that they’re not just competing against other men, they’re competing over the thoughts of I should have stayed home, not wasted all this time getting ready, just ordered from Uber Eats and used my vibrator after. Men like you are competing against other men, no doubt (who also pay to play). Which is why you pay. You know that if you dont pay, they won't have the energy to pretend to like you. So atleast you understand your situation and act accordingly. I on the other hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:02 AM
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Then you clearly aren't compatible with people who value those things Yes, hence my post about filtering out women by not paying (not following the social program)...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:00 AM
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The amount of comments you've made on this post in response to my comments to other people is very fascinating. Its like you really want my attention for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:58 AM
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Bro, whiteknighting in these comments is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:56 AM
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Most of us aren’t broke ass bums crying over minimal amounts of money Like I said in the post, letting women pay for themselves is for men with standards beyond looks. Not simps who need approval and so they just pay to get it. If you think its about money then I dont even know what to say to you. Its about weeding out women who's feelings towards you are dependent on you paying. No man with self respect wants to be with such a woman. You can be with them, thats fine. But the post isnt for men l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:55 AM
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Mentioning something once is not fixation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:52 AM
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I don't think you know what the word fixated means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:26 PM
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might as well use him for his money. They do anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:25 PM
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but mocked men displaying those values as NPCs just moments ago Men (or women) who feel beholden to social traditions are indeed NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:24 PM
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Most women want romance They want perfomative behaviour that strokes their egos. Which is why they aren't romantic themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:23 PM
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I dont believe in the concept of romance. Its a performative thing where men are usually the performer and women are the audience. Women generally aren't very romantic (which is to be expected from people who dont even like to pay for themselves on dates).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:07 PM
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Hey.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:03 PM
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That's a man who will show up to his kids terrible choir or band recital even if it's not his idea of fun. Thats not a social tradition. Its just being an attentive father. I dont behold myself to social traditions and yet I still went to my niece's boring school play coz her parents couldn't make it. That's a man who will be able to show up for dinner at his in laws even if he's missing football. Again, not a social tradition. Its part of being married. That's a man who understands that his own…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:02 PM
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I've honestly never kept track of who pays first every time. This more than likely means its always the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:59 PM
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The unfortunate reality is there are women who do go on dates for the free food. You can deny it all you want but they still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:53 PM
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Like I said, since you're a woman who doesn't get expected while dating to pay for herself let alone the man, your perspective on this doesnt really mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:48 PM
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If a woman's attraction to a man is based on payment, its not real attraction. May as well see a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:46 PM
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Unfortunately such women do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:46 PM
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You said you want someone who feels ultimately beholden to certain social traditions even if they don't particularly enjoy it. That is not an intelligent man. Its an NPC.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:45 PM
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If a man doesn't view a nice date as a gift regardless of it it's mine or his turn, we have very different expectations on the level of romance that we're content with and incompatible. So i assume you pay first, since you like taking turns and viewing it as a gift? but if there's no romance at the start I shudder to think what the end looks like. Payment isn't romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:44 PM
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When did I ask this? you can probably find a strictly 50/50 woman, but the most desirable women are not going to go for that So most desirable women aren't generous? Sounds like they'll make great mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:41 PM
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Men feel superior to us no matter what Expecting them to provide for you in whatever way and wanting to be led by them probably doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:35 PM
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Can I ask what question i asked that "a calibre of men would never ask"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:31 PM
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Great. Then she'll pay for herself and I achieve the same outcome as letting her pay for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:26 PM
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You basically want a non player character who doesnt think for themself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:25 PM
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dare masculine men and they would hateee to be paid for lol Well, first of all, I never said women should pay for men. Secondly those so called "masculine" men hate to be paid for because it makes them feel emasculated to have a woman (who deep down they feel superior to) pay for them. You don't really understand how men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:24 PM
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You say no genuine person as if that’s set in stone… It kinda is. You cant be a genuine person and yet be judging people based on their income. there’s a caliber of men who would never ask your question in the first place and that’s just the truth What question did I ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:21 PM
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The post isn't for you. Its directed at men who feel they have to pay to be liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:16 PM
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Men who are dominant and successful don’t care about a woman’s income No genuine person cares about anyone's income. And letting a woman pay for herself has nothing to do with her income. Its about filtering out women who bring nothing to the table except their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:14 PM
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I’ve never in my life met a man who was looking for a ‘financially generous woman’ it isn’t something ‘top men” look for. Its about the mentality of expecting someone to pay for you. dating a man who has litterally nothing masculine about him, is generally not worthwhile A man paying for your meal however cheap or expensive has nothing to do with masculinity. In fact men who are the least masculine pay because they're afraid of not getting approval from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:12 PM
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It is not the payment because I said I split dates. Are you sure you read what I said? I did but I thought to you part of "taking charge" and showing "traditional masculinity" means also paying. do you think traditional men should not be allowed to look for traditional women either? I think people should look for whatever they like. But most men dont pay because they're traditional. They do it because they know not paying reduces their chances of getting laid or getting a second date date. Many …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:08 PM
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mean I answered your question honestly I know, which is why I asked if you work on anything else (like your intelligence, self development and so on) or do you just work on your body?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:04 PM
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I'm vetting for will he pay even performatively. So you want a performative relationship based on payment, fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:03 PM
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Believe it or not, women are valued for different reasons that men are And? What I expect them to bring to the table is financial and protection What you expect is a business transaction not a genuine relationship between two humans. I focus on keeping myself soft and pampered, staying in top physical shape and keeping my hair and nails done. Thats it? You dont focus on growing as a person or learning new things, or anything to do with developing yourself and your intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:00 PM
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The point is there are women who go on dates for free food for example (there are many other examples), so letting them pay for themselves is a great way to filter out such people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:56 PM
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think there's various reasons some people prefer traditional relationships. I would want to filter out such women. I want to be with someone who thinks for themselves and doesn't just play a role created by other people long before she was even born. Thats not a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:55 PM
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If he doesn't though, it's almost guaranteed he does not like you My understanding and experience is that if a woman is hung up on me paying otherwise she thinks I dont like her then she is very insecure and wouldn't make a great partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:52 PM
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I cannot feel sexual for men any other way This is why I think letting women pay for themselves is a great filtering system. I would rather be alone than be with someone who can only feel sexually attracted to me after payment in whatever form.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:50 PM
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that they will treat a girl they really like. We can see that you know? Like I said in the post, even men who hate women know that to get what you want you have to "treat" women (spend money on them).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:48 PM
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There is a psychological reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:45 PM
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Well, you dont date women so your experience is limited in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:44 PM
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Her and her husband seem happy So did Gabby Petito and her boyfriend. He's the type who would never let a woman pay. Because he has been conditioned to think his worth is based on paying for women. Deep down he probably knows if he didn't pay, he wouldn't have a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:43 PM
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but it is a measure of how generous he is 🤷🏿‍♀️ A woman not wanting to even pay for herself and expecting someone else to do it is also a measure of how ungenerous she is. also the only men who seem to complain about this are men who are broke or struggling financially If a man letting you pay for your own food is broke, what does that make you, since you dont even want to pay for yourself? It seems you lack the ability to self reflect. At least he's okay with paying for himself (even if he's br…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:40 PM
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Great for who? For men who have standards beyond looks, like it says in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:23 PM
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My sister would never date a man who wants her to pay Which is why I say letting women pay for themselves is a great way to filter them. A man cant have a genuine relationship with someone whose choice to date him is dependent on payment. Thats not a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:10 PM
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Well, i definitely have a right to let her pay for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:09 PM
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but I’m also not gonna date him Thats why I said its a great way to vet women. No self respecting man would want to date a woman whose choice to date him is dependent on payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:07 PM
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I guess if a woman is only concerned about payment then yes, its a great way to vet men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:05 PM
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all the shit women have to pay for and all the systemic reasons this practice exists. So because women have to pay for stuff, men also have to pay to be with them? You're not vetting for thoughtful or independent women. No thoughtful and independent woman would have a problem paying for food she ate on a date. women who are willing or able to absorb yet another cost in a dating culture By "yet another cost..", you mean food they ate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:03 PM
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So after you paid for yourself they told you that its how they filter out women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:00 PM
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Its not a method of vetting at all. If even men who hate women know to just pay, how is it a method of vetting?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:59 PM
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you still said to avoid me Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:58 PM
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Because its a choice, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:57 PM
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Good luck with your micromanaging Imagine thinking someone letting you pay for what you ate is "micromanaging". Such an interesting way to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:56 PM
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Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:55 PM
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Why would anyone explain to anyone else why they should pay for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:54 PM
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Yes, i would love to be with a woman who isn't like other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:48 PM
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and women can vet for men who don't want them to pay Like the first paragraph of the post says, even men who hate women know to pay. So those women aren't vetting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:47 PM
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This is the exact type of mentality men avoid by letting women pay themselves. Thanks for helping to prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:46 PM

You seem intellectually inferior "You cannot see in others what you dont already possess." - You
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:30 AM

you can not see in others what you don't already possess. Well, thats just ridiculous. Do you not see abusive behaviour in men who abuse their partners? Does that mean you're also abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:05 PM
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He’s a bitter man with issues So then women who think like him are also bitter women with issues. Thats equality. Much like the men who get bitter and angry about paying for dates. Women's lack of self awareness is genuinely amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:49 AM
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So if a man expects you to pay for him on a date, he isnt entitled? What is he then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:46 AM
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You describe women as entitled, which isn’t true. How is expecting someone to pay for you on a date not entitled? If a man expected you to pay for him, is he not entitled? If not, what is he then? You describe women as transactional. Many unfortunately are. Men are the transactional ones. Thats bigotry and untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:22 AM
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but it’s not adventitious for women to be generous early on. If you're being generous because its advantageous, are you actually generous? Also, this why i said let's lower the bar and just expect women to pay for themselves, never mind the man because that would not be advantageous for women to do. And yet they dont even want to do that much. It’s natural for women to want to see who you are Paying on a date has nothing to do with who someone is. Basically all men know that paying is the best a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:18 AM
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What did I say that isn't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:55 AM
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That's not simping I never said anything about simping. I said men's behaviour encourages entitlement and narcissism in women, including "traditional" men's behaviour. That's just being fake polite And you dont imagine that if most men are fake polite to women, this will lead to them thinking that they're special in some way if they cant tell that its fake politeness?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:51 AM
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their $5 coffee because it shows you’re a generous person The interesting thing about this group is they want men to show that they're generous and yet these women don't bother showing that they're generous themselves. Its like "pay for my coffee so I know you're a generous person", and they never stop to think that if they value generosity maybe they should be generous and pay for the man's coffee. I know thats unthinkable for women so let's lower the bar and just expect them to be generous eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:44 AM
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I make a conscious effort to not pay for dates to weed out women who cant look beyond superficial things. So its not an issue for me. But saying that men should suggest free dates is basically telling men to suggest something that will turn off the majority of women they come accross. Most dates require some form of payment if you want to sit at a comfortable place and have a coffee or whatever. And it shouldn't actually be necessary for men to suggest free dates. Women should just be adults and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:40 PM
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Exactly. How is this answering my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:37 PM
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It’s that men need to stop reinforcing behaviour they don’t like. Thats part of what the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:00 PM
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none of my friends are anything like this. The thing is you wouldn't really know though since you dont date them. A man who goes on a date with your friends experiences them differently than you do. But I will say the advantage is it’s pretty easy to avoid these types of women Not exactly. A man won't really know that a woman is the type to expect him to always pay until he goes on a date with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:56 PM
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that in turn cause some women to feel like they should expect to be spoiled by someone who wants something from them Is it a small percentage of women who feel like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:41 PM
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What did I say that isn't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:37 PM
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So which is it? Its both.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:59 PM
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Which list is more critical: the one saying men open doors and pay for dates, or the one calling women entitled, narcissistic, transactional, and poor partners? It doesnt matter. What matters is the point being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:36 PM
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Your criticism of women is: they’re entitled, narcissistic, transactional, poor partners, expect men to pay, don’t like paying for themselves, and call men cheap or broke if they split the bill. Because of the behaviour of men which encourages this behaviour in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:17 PM
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and if your "values" expect sex or expect someone to drop what they are doing anytime you want attention...then you are even more of an entitled pOs. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:11 PM
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Most of it is criticising men's behaviour which encourages entitlement and narcissism in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:09 PM
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No I guess men and women really are different. From my perspective, expecting any human regardless of gender to spend money on me is entitlement. From your perspective it isn't and thats fair enough. We see things very differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:04 PM
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you lash out at people like me who have it better than you do. You supposedly have it better than I do and yet you dont even want to pay for yourself on dates... He chooses the place and pays for it. And if he didn't you wouldn't like him and would call him poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:02 PM
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You're just mad i called you out for being superficial and lacking empathy for people you think are poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:59 PM
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Then your issue is with men’s behaviour Yes, thats what the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:58 PM
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No, it was a good point. You just dont like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:52 PM
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Its not a filter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:50 PM
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I suppose if a woman is entitled and I point that out, she might perceive that as name calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:50 PM
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My comment was in reference to you saying "Even if you don’t like it, that is the expectation in our areas."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:49 PM
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If you think expecting men to pay for dates protects women from bad men then you are extremely naive and not very observant. You dont think bad men have realised that paying gets them what they want??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:48 PM
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I'm treating them like adults by saying they're entitled if they expect other adults to pay for what they eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:47 PM
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No, its obvious. Its very easy to tell when a woman is shallow and materialistic. Your comments say alot about you and your lack of empathy for people who you see as poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:41 PM
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Yes, meaning its not a rule i follow. I do it spontaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:39 PM
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I misunderstood your comment. I thought you said my attitude is why women don't want men to pay for dates. Its silly to think you can filter out men by seeing whether or not they pay for dates. Basically all men know that paying for dates is the best option and increases their chances of getting laid. Its sad that you think it filters out bitter men. Even misogynistic men know to just pay when dealing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:39 PM
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Women who are parasites do exist. Thats who I'm talking about. Pretending they dont exist is just disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:36 PM
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Do entitled and greedy women exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:31 PM
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Men choose to open doors, compliment women, chase women, and pay for dates Yes. The point is these things men choose to do lead to entitlement in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:28 PM
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Thats why I said it’s a “small way”. It only weeds out men who choose to treat women like equal human beings beyond just words. Usually men who are resentful about paying for a date are resentful about other facets of life and will nickel and dime a woman throughout a relationship. Best practice is to avoid him. I find women's lack of self awareness amazing. A man not paying for your food is resentful and yet you're just perfect the way you are in expecting him to pay for you. Truly amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:23 PM
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Do you genuinely believe that expecting someone to pay for your food isnt entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:21 PM
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Treating women like adults and letting them pay for their own meals isn't bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:20 PM

Sounds like my attitude is why women want to act like adults who arent parasitic. Unfortunately not enough want to act like adults in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:18 PM
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I find it amazing how you cant see that expecting another human to pay for food you eat is entitled. I'm genuinely amazed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:16 PM
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Expecting a guy to pay is just a small way to filter out men who resent women. I find it sad that women haven't yet realised that even men who hate women with a passion know that paying on a date is the path of least resistance to get what you want. How is it that you guys haven't figured this out yet? Do you think Andrew Tate didn't pay on dates when he was recruiting all those women to "work" for him? Any man who has been on one date with a woman knows that he has to pay to increase his chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:09 PM
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I'm just going with your line of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:03 PM
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The men I date have so much money it means nothing to them. Wow. Good for you. I can tell that your relationships are very superficial and dependent on money. Its just another form of prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:01 PM
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My son wouldn’t dream of not giving up his seat to an elderly person I literally said i would. I just said my mum didn't tell me to do it (because she didn't need to)...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:59 PM
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Well, its the expectation in their area so women and girls shouldn't question it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:58 PM
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The men I date don’t complain about it. Yeah, because they know that when you want something from a sex worker, its best to pay to get what you want. That’s how I know you’re poor. Oh no, a woman on reddit thinks im poor because i dont let women use me 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:56 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:54 PM
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Someone who is walking away from you isn't entitled, But someone who expects others to spend money on them definitely is. There is no way around this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:53 PM
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Yes, just like its the expectation in the area of Afghanistan for women and girls to not get an education and be subservient to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:50 PM
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I addressed this in the post, which you clearly didn’t read. You really need to be devoid of any self awareness to call someone broke for not wanting to pay for your food. Even if I were a millionaire I would still split the bill to weed out women who think like you. Its not possible to form a genuine relationship with someone who thinks like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:48 PM
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I don't do it as a rule. In fact I've never done it because I've never been in that position. But hypothetically I would do it because they're old and probably struggle to stand for long periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:46 PM
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Expecting someone to sleep with you within a couple dates requires risks including unexpected pregnancy, STDs both curable and not curable, that they will approach everything safely and with your consent, all with someone you may like a lot but not really know that well. What does this have to do with paying for yourself on a date? "We're not compatible so let's just go our separate ways without name-calling and resentment" is not entitlement. Yes, but expecting someone to pay for what you eat i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:43 PM
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Does your behavior towards a woman change based on her age? No, which is why I don't feel particularly compelled to give up my seat to a woman in her 80s for any other reason apart from her age. Her gender has nothing to do with it since I would do the same for a man in his 80s. Interestingly enough, women never really do this. Also, the entitlement comes from the expectation from women of certain treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:40 PM
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One could just as easily call a man entitled for expecting women to simply drop their preferences for his individual convenience. The reality is if your "preferences" require people to spend money on you, you're not only entitled but are unlikely to be a good person. It's a difference in values Its fine to have values. But if your values require people to pay for you when you have lunch or dinner with them, you are entitle . This is the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:45 AM
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and give more losers a chance to experience sex. Well, lucky for them they can just pay, either directly (prostitution) or indirectly (on a date).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:11 AM
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Its something that men need to hear and never really gets talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:09 AM
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Clearly, some don’t. Well, thank God you're here with your wisdom to help them realise that they dont have to listen to opinions they disagree with. I don't know what they'd do without you. That’s why there are men who complain about having to pay for dates as if they got forced to They complain because they've noticed that most women are so transactional and materialistic that not paying on a date greatly reduces their chances at a genuine connection, since the majority of women are like that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:54 AM
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Yet men will claim that a woman who offers to pay or split the bill is emasculating Surely you can see that there is something off about a man who feels emasculated by a woman choosing to pay for herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:52 AM
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Sorry, but you can't just rebrand culture as entitlement I can, if that culture encourages entitlement like youve just shown. just as there are rules how to talk to someone. Are you a robot? People who date me know what i offer. Well, we know you dont offer to pay for yourself. So thats a start. People want to live comfortably Sure. The problem is using other people to do that. but i think that if he doesn't when there is a culture of paying for a woman he doesn't like me for sure Like I said, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:49 AM
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it’s to let people know that they should be able to do as they see fit You think they dont already know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:24 AM

then it's exactly those who refuse to pay that will be hurt. They will only be "hurt" if they have low standards. Once a man has high standards and doesn't want to be with a woman who requires payment in whatever form, being rejected by such women is actually a good thing. You save yourself a lot of drama in an empty and transactional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:23 AM
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i knew that there is chivalry, and men should open doors for women, should offer a seat first, and other rules of an etiquette You knew that men "should" do this because the men around you did it and the women around you experienced it and developed entitlement which they passed onto you. Without entitlement, the idea that anyone "should" do anything for you is absurd. but because i perceived it as right. Because its how men were acting. You didnt just come out of the womb thinking its right for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:18 AM
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No woman wants a man that has to nickel and dime her. Do you think men want this? But what do men provide women in a one night stand? She never orgasms, and puts herself at risk of pregnancy and the risk of STIs. Then women should stop having one night stands. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:02 AM
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If you dont care what the stranger things, why would you even acknowledge their opinion by commenting on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:00 AM

there is no way somewhat consistent behavior from men (them paying for dates) is not going to create some sort of expectations. And those expectations lead to entitlement. Many men complain about women's entitlement not realising that their behaviour towards women actually encourages it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:54 AM
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Who cares what random internet strangers think The one commenting on their post, i would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:52 AM
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Paying for the date does increases your chances. Ofcourse, otherwise men wouldn't waste their money. But it still adds to women's entitlement. without changing the system. How could we change the system? What even is the system in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:49 AM
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Congrats for learning how systems function. Thanks 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:19 AM
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Exactly. Most men dont want to ruin their chances so they just pay but cumulatively, does this have a neutral effect on women or does it actually make them feel entitled to men paying and doing all those other things to cater to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:18 AM
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Yes, i enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:21 AM
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Yes, it means I'm not basic and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:50 AM
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“Nice Guys are dishonest. Secretive. Manipulative. Controlling. Self-centered and narcissistic. Passive-aggressive.” Well, this is true in many cases. Or is it just one author’s opinion? Its an opinion based on accurate observations of many nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:27 PM
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Esther Vilar wasn’t a researcher, psychologist, or academic You dont need to be any of that to make accurate observations about human behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:34 PM
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Yeah, but alot of them are also about meditation, conspiracies and so on. You post more consistently than I do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:15 AM
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Okay, I'll check it out. I make YouTube videos too so I've learnt to shamelessly plug my stuff on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:06 AM
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Interesting. I might check out your videos if you share the link.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:54 AM
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what can they say to make themselves not boring and as basic? Something beyond themselves, like something related to social issues, philosophy, art, psychology and so on. There are so many different topics beyond the Kardashians, tiktok, what some celebrity did or Stacy said to Becky and relationship drama or whatever. I say this as someone who has a YouTube channel that talks about some of these topics What topics do you discuss on your channel?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:22 AM
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They only want to be approached by certain women. Not below average women. Not autistic awkward women Don't you think this also applies to men approaching women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:18 AM
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A large % of men don't even realize that how attractive you are matters Bro, be for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:23 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:22 AM
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which skills you need to work on to improve your game. If she finds another man more physically attractive than you, what are you gonna do about it? How is improving your "game" gonna change the fact that she doesnt find you physically attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:08 AM
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Look, the less forward I am with men, the less likely they have been to ghost me or friend zone me And I'm telling you as a man that its about your approach more than anything. If a man is genuinely attracted to you, he's not going to ghost you just because you paid for yourself on a date or because you were "forward," or whatever. If you cant understand that then I dont know what else to say to you. The average man would just be happy to get someone who's interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:03 AM
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both men and women in their early 20s are self-centred So im not entirely wrong then. Instead of talking philosophers and names with the young women you date I dont talk about philosophers and names with them. How would that even be a conversation? ask them about what they think of the world and what is important to them in it. I do, hence the post. they should have opinions and ideas. Yes, and those opinions and ideas tend to be superficial and lacking depth. Saying this doesnt mean I hate wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:59 AM
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Stopped reading right there I dont care bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:52 AM
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The guys around her determine how good of a chance you have. Who gives a shit? Why worry about other men or let them affect your approach to dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:29 PM
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You are competing whether you know it or not. No, i am not. Which means that if you're not the highest quality guy she can get with your odds fall off a cliff. If a woman doesn't like you and goes with someone else, you didn't lose some competition. She just doesn't like you. In the same way that you like some women and not others. If you choose one over the other, no one lost a competition. You gotta stop thinking like a simp with no self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:26 PM
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You're the one who chose that hobby out of anything else. Blame yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:19 PM
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Like I said, being an adult man competing for a woman is so weak and pathetic. Even women dont really respect that behaviour, no matter how much they may like it on the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:18 PM
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You're not competing against Chad who doesn't have to pay. If its between you and Chad you're going to lose no matter what you do. The idea of competing with other men for women is so weak and pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:16 PM
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no, not the majority, Exactly. lol i knew you would dismiss literally any hobby i listed, You listed one hobby centered on dressing up. Thats a choice you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:12 PM
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But their biologic imperatives and drives HAS TO CONSIDER PREGNANCY Which has nothing to do with you paying for her meal like every other simp she'll go on a date with that month. The irony is the men she genuinely likes dont have to pay because she likes them. Why do you think men are much stronger and more endurant? Is it because they need all that strength to grab their wallets and pay for a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:11 PM
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Women volunteer slightly more than men and are overwhelmingly psychologists and therapists. Women also go to art museums slightly more often and are most of the curators. They also mediate more often, though it's usually done along with something else like yoga, tai chi, or qi gong. And yet they are still generally basic and boring and rarely have anything interesting to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:54 PM
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The answer is very simple. Human biology. Men do not get pregnant. Bro, be serious. Women dont get pregnant on the first date with every guy they go on a date with. Men paying for dates has nothing to do with biology. Thats so absurd. So why do men have to pay? That is our biologic role in our species. This is pure nonsense. I can only assume that it was programmed into you by women or the simps around you. Biology has nothing to do with you paying for some Woman's food. This is simp mentality. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:49 PM
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The vast majority of men, particularly straight men, are very put off by it in reality. The reality is a man isnt going to suddenly stop being attracted to a woman he likes just because she asked him out or paid for her own food on a date. If he does stop liking you because of that, then he never really liked you in the first place. No real man will find a hot woman less hot because she initiated things. Let's be for real. The problem may be your approach to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:43 PM
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What would you consider something of substance? Social issues, philosophy, psychology, meditation, art, etc. but I wouldn't consider them the average woman. Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:08 PM
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why should i care about you personally? Because the post is coming from my personal perspective not men in general. In fact, its about how most men dont see what im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:06 PM
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you know there are women who are doctors of philosophy, and literal rocket scientists, and filmmakers, and musicians and authors, professors, scientists Are we gonna pretend like these women are the majority? have cute interesting hobbies like cosplaying, right? Oh wow. Playing dress up is so interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:04 PM
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men will have no way to see if they are boring or not because they don't value that. I can see it and thats the point. The post is about how most men dont see women as they really are (basically and boring).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:02 PM
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It was a joke. Settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:00 PM
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more like you're uninterested in the same things Yeah, like anything of substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:45 PM
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You are wrong about women being basic and boring. Well, no because in my experience they are. You can say you dont find them basic and boring and thats also fine. You don't have to agree with me. I read off some of what you have said to some older men What did I say? The word came from them. I don't really care much about random people's opinions. If they think im arrogant then thats fine. Its their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:44 PM
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Like I said, im speaking for myself not men as a collective and I definitely notice women's personalities, hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:36 PM
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Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:35 PM
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And im telling you that I can see people's individuality while also acknowledging their uniform behaviour (like being basic and boring). If you dont find people basic and boring then thats great, but i do. And i can acknowledge that while also seeing their individuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:35 PM
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Just me Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:31 PM
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Until you arbitrarily cut it off at only women and fail to realize the basic-ness of men too. I already said men are also basic, but since they're the ones who initiate things and approach women, to keep their attention they have to be a bit more interesting and less basic, otherwise the woman moves on to someone who keeps her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:25 PM
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Since you dont believe its an insult, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:23 PM
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Good mothers are not superficial and superficial is the antithesis of what they do. Yes, truly good mothers are also rare. Also, I'm talking about them beyond their role as mothers. I can make judgements of you by what you say That doesn't mean they're true. You are unable to admit being wrong What am I wrong about? Being a mother doesn't make someone not superficial. Mothers who are superficial exist. Mothers who abuse their kids also exist. Being a mother doesnt suddenly make you a great perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:22 PM
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That isnt logical at all. Looking a certain way doesn't suddenly make someone more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:11 PM
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Taking care of children is usually not superficial at all. You can take care of children is still be a superficial human being. Giving birth doesnt suddenly make someone a human being with depth and deep wisdom. You may say you are not interested in impressing women but you are probably turning many off. I actually get along great with women, especially since I stopped caring about being liked and impressing them. I just find most of them basic and boring but I can still meet them on their level…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:09 PM
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Its called generalising and it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:03 PM
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simply don't think being basic is an insult. So whats the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:03 PM
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No, because i dont believe you know what you're saying. What are you actually saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:01 PM
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I expect why you get women with no depth is because you speak like you do. Nope. Its because they are rare. I would suddenly not be available if I heard a man talking about women the way you do. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:01 PM
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I dont think you really know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:00 PM
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Bubba, you are too Oh no. Im so insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:56 PM
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he has no way of noticing, because only looks matter. I notice and care about more than looks, hence my observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:55 PM
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A lot of your observations seem like insults. Yes, in the same way that pointing out that someone who is stupid is stupid can seem like an insult. But stupid people do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:53 PM
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Superficial is the last word I would choose to describe them. Your idea of what is superficial is very likely different to mine. Having to work and take care of kids doesnt necessarily make someone not superficial. saying things like women are basic is an insult and will not impress women at all I have no interest in impressing women. I'm just saying what my experience and observations have shown me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:51 PM
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you went to the insults again Its just an observation not an insult. And based on the amount of comments you've already made on this post, its not inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:47 PM
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I didnt really say anything about myself at all, except that im interested in more than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:46 PM
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There's always a whiteknight in the picture at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:45 PM
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Physical appearance has nothing to do with how basic and boring someone is. Actually, attractive women tend to be more basic and boring since their looks get them enough attention so they end up feeling like they dont need to work on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:42 PM
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Hard to say Right...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:37 PM
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I never said men were better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:36 PM
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You really don't come across any more interesting than any other random As if you'd be able to tell on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:35 PM
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Let's agree to disagree about that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:20 PM
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Do you think its possible that when i said I've only met one woman i wasn't being serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:20 PM
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Makeup can indeed be a hobby. For basic women, no doubt. Give me examples? Painting, songwriting, music production, photography, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:19 PM
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It is not true It unfortunately is. I wish it wasn't because then dating would be more fun and interesting and I could actually find women i can have deep and interesting conversations with. But generally i find that if i want to talk about anything deep and interesting with women, I'm the one who has to bring it up otherwise the convo remains basic. And even when i do bring it up, its generally like im talking to someone who isnt really there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:17 PM
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will you explain in more detail? No, we'll just agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:15 PM
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Women are self centred? Many are. None of the women I know just worry about their nails, clothes and makeup. I expect there are few women like this. If we are honest with ourselves we'll acknowledge that many young women (in their 20s and 30s) are like this. Maybe they dont worry about literally exactly these things but its generally superficial things they care about. I wish it wasn't true but it is. I assume you and your friends are a bit older. We have depth, abilities and ideas. We are not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:12 PM
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So you think women have no creative hobbies? Many dont. The post is speaking in generalities. And thats just one thing. Other things include not being able to have engaging and deep conversations, being self centered, not being interested in the world and what's happening in it beyond what they can gain and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:08 PM
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No. You didnt As i said, either you're making a conscious effort not to get it or you just can't due to intellectual reasons. Choose which one. How many women have you met? One.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:05 PM
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Can you give one example of what you consider basic and boring? Having no hobbies (makeup isnt a hobby). And one example of interesting? Having a creative hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:03 PM
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Its neither a compliment nor an insult. Its an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:56 PM
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Like what makes a man actively more interesting? Like I said in my previous comment, the way i explained it is very simple and either you're making a conscious effort to not get it or you're just not able to for intellectual reasons. Either way, im not gonna bother anymore. And how does that sit with women attracted to women? They're generally on the same level of basic and boring so they probably dont see an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:55 PM
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Explain how men tend to be more engaging/less boring? I said they tend to be a little less boring and basic because they have to be to attract women, especially since they're the ones who generally initiate things. If a man is boring and uninteresting a woman can just ignore him and move on to the next one so they have to be a little less boring to keep women's attention. I think this is pretty clear. If it isn't, you're either making a conscious effort to not get it or you're just intellectuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:49 PM
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Insulting women (or any whole gender) shows a banality that is the very definition of being even less than boring and basic. What did I say to insult women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:45 PM
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Like I said, my bad for assuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:44 PM
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You said "she's so bored by you" and i pointed out that she wasn't talking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:42 PM
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How and why do I know this? I just assumed you've dated men and catch their attention. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:41 PM
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Give me an example of this basic Uninteresting, no hobbies, self centred, no interests in philosophy, psychology etc, cant have engaging conversations of substance and so on. throw in an example of why men are so extra special. Never said they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:38 PM
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I just said how so. Because to attract women they have to be more interesting and engaging since they're the ones who generally initiate things in the dating world. You know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:37 PM
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Men can bore me to tears. Possibly in the same way that an adult can bore a child to tears...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:34 PM
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She wasn't responding to me. I actually didnt even bother responding to her comment. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:33 PM
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but men no less so Men have to be interesting and engaging to some extent to attract women so they end up being a little less basic and boring. all women will appear to only have “a vagina and two breasts” to offer Esther Vilar said this, and its not because she was only interested in sex from women. I am interested in more than sex, and that actually makes dating more challenging because many women dont have much else to offer beyond that. Many cant even really have an interesting and engaging …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:31 PM
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but you just had to go “actually, women suck” I didn't say that. Like it really do be impossible to not dehumanize us I guess. Saying someone is basic and boring isn't dehumanizing them. but instead you go “the evil femoid is not worthy of your idealization, rejoice my fellow man and understand that there are unworthy” These are your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:28 PM
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Women are simply to complicated to be understood or known by men. They really aren't that complicated. Men are just conditioned to think they are which helps to mystify them. They are actually generally pretty basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:07 PM
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The person you're responding to is making a conscious effort to not understand the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:05 PM
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So your truth is that women have nothing to offer but sex? I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:44 PM
-2

Yes, but since men have to be more engaging to attract women, they tend to be a little less basic and boring than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:26 PM
-1

Generally speaking, pretty basic and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:15 PM
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That would be part of the deep discussion, wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:07 AM
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You care, or you wouldn’t have made this post I made this post for not the reason you think. otherwise you wouldn’t have specified women I specified women because their narcissism and self-centeredness is encouraged by society whereas men's isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:47 AM
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I don't care how it sounds to you man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:38 AM
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I'm asking for even the most basic explanation that you have ACTUALLY experienced this in person in any way whatsoever. Im not gonna sit here and answer your questions about how many self centered women I've been in dates with, how that 'evolved' and when i noticed it or whatever. Thats a waste of my time. If I answer those questions then what? Does it suddenly change your view that you've never met a single self centered woman and they have all been supposedly intelligent and deep? Just downvot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:35 AM
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You're weirdly defensive about this. If you've not met a single self centered woman then thats great. Keep doing what you're doing. Also, i don't know who you're quoting because I never used the phrase "problematically self centered, narcissistic and entitled". There is no level of thosee things that isnt problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:30 AM
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not really.. no Like I said, thats really amazing. this doesn't seem like a common thing.. Self centeredness and narcissism in women doesnt seem like a common thing? Maybe you are also self centered and narcissistic and therefore you dont notice anything because to claim that such women dont actually exist or that you haven't met even one is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:23 AM
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If they remain single, men will complain Why would they care about men complaining? Why is it ok for men to be selfish and narcissistic but not women ? I didn't say it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:04 AM
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You've not met a single self centered and entitled woman? That is so amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:03 AM
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The nature of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:59 AM
0

What an intelligent response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:22 PM
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Its not really weird. There are many deep topic to talk about that aren't personal and have nothing to do with your personal fears and vulnerabilities, and if someone has to ask what are deep topics to talk about, they're basically a lost cause and giving them a list of deep topics will mean nothing to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:53 AM
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these are the ramblings of a paranoid, deranged mind. From your limited perspective, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:01 AM
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Well, they did. But you can believe whatever makes you feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:19 AM
0

they weren't that interested in talking to you Then why would they initiate conversations with me and even suggest that we hang out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:52 AM
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Still dont understand metaphors I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:38 AM
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And sorry, we do not live in a simple little video game I guess you don't understand metaphors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:24 AM
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No, its reality and its not literal. Do you know what an NPC in a video game is? Its essentially a character that doesn't think for itself or act independently. Everything it says is part of the programming of the game. This is how many women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:15 AM
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especially unattractive men, is essentially meaningless Thats what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:07 AM
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Now they’re just as bad as men Hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:06 AM
1

We're talking about NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:05 AM
1

And yet many male NPCs have noticed that women tend to be NPCs, while women haven't noticed it about men...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:57 AM
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The reason women NPCs cant see male NPCs is because they're such NPCs they have no awareness of anything beyond themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:46 AM
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Women are now acting like men And this is a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:17 AM
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It was a question that answers itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:14 AM
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Yes Then just be single. Why get involved with someone when you only care about yourself and what you can get from them? Thats literally what narcissism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:13 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:57 PM
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Like I said, because many are such NPCs that other men who are NPCs can see that many women are NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:02 PM
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Your example would be equivalent if you said "Many men are stupid and boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:57 PM
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Because many are such NPCs that even male NPCs can see that they're NPCs. Its like being such a robot that other robots can tell that you're a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:55 PM
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Do you think men think beyond themselves when getting involved with a woman? Men are so terrible yet you copy what they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:54 PM
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Do you think that anyone with basic intelligence would see a conversation about the kardashians as being deep?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:31 PM
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In the beginning, yes. So you think in the beggining of getting to know someone you supposedly like, being only concerned about yourself and what you can get from them is a good approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:22 PM
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Some definitely are, but so are some men so...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:49 PM
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. There's not much of an incentive for women to commit to men or behave in ways that would benefit a man. Then they should remain single, just like the men i mentioned in the post who are walking away from women. This kind of cold, self-centered behaviour from women is a reaction to mens abusive behaviour towards women in relationships historically imo. We can justify self-centred and narcissistic behaviour all we want but at the end of the day its still self-centred and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:32 PM
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Does the post say all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:29 PM
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But is being concerned about only whats in it for you and what you can gain from the other person a good approach to a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:29 PM
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I believe that’s what most men on this sub are saying. Well, its not what im saying. And i know thats obvious to anyone who objectively reads the post without letting their emotions and how offended they are get in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:27 PM
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While thats a very revealing comment, it doesn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:25 PM
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This is essentially a trick question. If someone has basic intelligence they know what a deep topic is. Even chatgpt can tell you what a deep topic of conversation is. But if you have to be told to know then you might be a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:24 PM

I dont believe that you really believe that thats what the post is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:15 PM
-1

And is this a good approach to a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:13 PM
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. Have you read an actual study or things written by actual researchers Yes, I have a degree in psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:12 PM

Do you really think thats what im saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:11 PM
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What do you mean give an example? Obviously being only concerned about yourself when you're getting involved with another person is being self centered. What example do you need?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:05 PM
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But you are still identifying walking away from women entirely Walking away from specific types of women described in the post. Which unfortunately are not a minority, but still im not saying its literally all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:03 PM
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The point being that attention from men doesnt automatically "mean squat".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:58 PM
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And its not true because not all women expect that. Does the post say all women? The rest are not examples They are. You just can't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:57 PM

Why should women think beyond themselves when getting involved with another human being (dating)? Very interesting question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:56 PM
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Okay bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:54 PM
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Okay bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:50 PM

Not thinking about anything beyond themselves and what they can gain from being involved with men, expecting men to pay on dates, always thinking about themselves and so on. But im sure you know what being self centered and narcissistic is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:50 PM
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Not thinking about anything beyond themselves and what they can gain, expecting men to pay on dates, always thinking about themselves and so on. But im sure you know what being self centered and narcissistic is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:49 PM
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Really? Women think about vowel shifts in Middle English or the fall of the Roman Empire when a man says many of them aren't interested in deep conversations?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:47 PM
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If you didn’t mean “most” or “all” you could not then logically propose “walking away from women” entirely. I didn't "propose" walking away from women. I stated that some men are walking away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:44 PM
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No, but you're implying "most do". The post says many, which isn't necessarily most. A minority of women are shitty? I never used the word shitty, even for the many women its describing. Some people are narcissistic. Yes, and many of them are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:42 PM
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Okay, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:40 PM

Sure, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:37 PM
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Do you mean "deep" as in an in-depth topic of study, like, you're for some reason surprised most people don't have strong opinions about vowel shifts in Middle English or idk the fall of the Roman Empire? Is this what you think of when someone says something is deep?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:37 PM
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Thats not what the post says or is even about. Are you offended on the behalf of women or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:34 PM
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You sound like a tinfoil hat dude yelling about brain chips, oh, but your so woke and enlightened. Because I mentioned social programming? Every psychologist knows about social conditioning/programming...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:30 PM
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The post is essentially what the link is about. Its about narcissism and how its due to social programming and how women being self-centred is leading to some men to choosing to remain single just like the paragraph where the link is says.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:27 PM
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That's the most anti-intellectual and pseudo scientific way you could describe human psychology for sure. Okay, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:25 PM
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so their attention means squat. This simply isn't true. The attention of men they find ugly may mean squat, but not the men they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:25 PM
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If you find all women vapid and inane, you are a misogynist. Does the post say all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:24 PM
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Not really. Its only a weird concept if you dont understand human psychology and how the mind can be programmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:18 PM
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So what are you actually saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:02 PM
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Right...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:35 AM
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It has. Our entire society is a result of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:03 AM
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If a society conditions men to be more logical than women then that will definitely affect how logical women are. And this is exactly what has happened in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:57 AM
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The minority, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:56 AM
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there is no gender difference in how logical a person is, whether it's due to conditioning or otherwise. Do you think men and women are socially conditioned in exactly the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:46 AM
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Because if women are less motivated They are not less motivated. They just arent masculine enough and therefore are cowards when it comes to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:45 AM
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Do they? Yes. And you know they do. I also think that it's been widely disproven that gender has any impact on how logical a person is.. Conditioning definitely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:38 AM
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It obviously does How? "If women had truly become masculine in the traditional sense, we would expect to see them initiating relationships as often" Did most women in relationships initiate those relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:37 AM
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I don't care about that. It doesnt change my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:07 AM
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So men want to be unburdened These are your own words. What incentive do i as a woman should have to be in relationship with a man? What incentive do you have now? Having someone to think for you, lead you and take the initiative?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:07 AM
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if men shouldn't be masculine, then what do they even bring in relationships? Where in the post does it say men shouldn't be masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:58 AM
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it’s got nothing to do with gender. Well, it does because its usually men who embody those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:56 AM
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Why would they want to be logical, take initiative and communicate directly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:52 AM

Actually, the looks are the main reason they get attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:16 AM

If a man isnt desirable thats even more reason for him to be detached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:04 AM

That part of the post is speaking in generalities about the average guy in the dating world, not the guy a woman falls for, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:02 AM
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the average guy wasn’t a horndog 24/7 women wouldn’t run around expecting princess treatment So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:44 PM

then wait for her to pull the trigger so you can pretend you got “left.” Do you know what detaching and moving on means? Does it mean you wait for someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:25 AM

is to just politely actually move on. Thats literally what the post says... Not chase nor play little “no you chase me” games, because none of that is going to work, and you’re wasting your time and mental energy. Where in the post does it say to do this? How much of the post did you read and did you actually understand it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:23 AM

There's nothing there. So you chose to comment on a post where there's nothing there? Thats not strange at all. I can tell when someone is regurgitating trite material they were spoon fed elsewhere. You clearly cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:21 AM

Yea I’m not going to keep repeat your sentences You can't repeat a sentence you never said in the first place. The full sentence says even if she doesn't show interest It doesn't matter because you have already detached and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:02 PM

but OP probably just wants to keep access. By walking away??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:56 PM

literally said what you followed it up with? What is the full sentence that i followed it up with and what do you think it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:55 PM

You say that “she’ll come back Whats the actual full sentence? And what does the sentence that follows it say and mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:12 PM

I can tell when someone hasn't actually read the whole post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:12 PM

try harder I'm sure that will suddenly increase her interest. women aren’t men As you were typing this, did you feel like you were actually making a good point by saying women aren't men? she isn’t going to suddenly start trying because you stopped trying Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:11 PM

Nope Wow. Thats very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:41 PM

So you really dont know what losing interest in someone looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:20 PM

So, I'll repeat: can you please define what losing interest looks like? Only if you can tell me what you losing interest in a man would look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:56 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. It would depend on how i feel at that point. I would probably still detach though unless I saw that the change was genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:20 PM

I don't know, that's why I asked. I dont believe you. Suppose you were dating and lost interest in someone, what would that look like? Or are you not even able to imagine what losing interest in someone would look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:19 PM

What are signs someone is losing interest? You don't know? You've never lost interest in someone and no one has ever lost interest in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:09 PM
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f she responded and wanted to keep things going What would this actually mean? Is her behaviour gonna change by actually showing an interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:07 PM

he’s a user and avoidant For walking away from a woman is no longer interested? The woman sounds like a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:06 PM

You said "This whole thing of oh just detach and she might come back is also stupid advice." Since you read the post, is that what it actually says?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:38 PM

Yeah, to be polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:18 PM

I think the whole post answers your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:09 PM
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Nice try Freud.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:45 PM
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I study psychology… So what? Do you think every psychology student knows themselves? I studied psychology too and know for a fact that most of the people who studied it in my class didnt know themselves. You may know your thought patterns but that doesn't mean you know yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:41 PM

Why play games tho? Why is leaving someone who isnt interested in you alone playing games? Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:39 PM
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Just ask if they are still interested. If you have to ask, the answer is obvious. I guess as a woman you generally dont take the initiative so this doesn't seem ridiculous to you. Or are you going to ghost your wife because her behaviour changed? Read the title of the post real quick and tell me if its about marriage or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:38 PM
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I do… You dont even know yourself. How are you gonna know men you arent even intimate with? Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:36 PM
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I dont think men have the ability Well then i guess women will just have to deal with men they're actively showing a disinterest in consantly trying to talk to them until someone physically stops them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:26 PM
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Do you think men have the ability to tell if a woman isn't interested or do you think they just keep taking their shot with women until someone physically stops them or something if she isnt interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:21 PM
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those are real men. You dont actually know those men...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:16 PM
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But maybe asking questions of people that you’ve known irl is also an option. Yeah, contacting people who dont want to talk to you is also an option. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:14 PM
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Why is asking if something changed because you noticed a difference in someones behaviour pathetic? Because if someone is no longer interested in you, you should leave them alone instead of trying to get them to explain to you why they're no longer interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:13 PM
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I find it funny when women act like they know what a real man is. They themselves arent even real enough to not wear a mask (make up) 😂 What do you think a real man is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:11 PM
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Not to everybody Well, to anyone with basic intuition and social intelligence. I can take their communication style as them not being interested. Some people actually arent interested. You can tell yourself its just a communication style and force yourself on them if you like though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:10 PM
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Because there's no need to ask someone who shows no in you why they aren't interested. Its pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:07 PM

Why dont you just ask whats going on? Because there's no need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:03 PM
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I think you're confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:02 PM
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But “signs” can be interpreted differently depending on the person doing the interpreting. The signs that show a lack of interest are very common and im sure you know they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:01 PM

I'm guessing you either didn't read or understand what i wrote. Thats not really surprising. I would have thought women would like the idea of men leaving women who are no longer interested in them alone. I guess i was wrong. I suppose men should just keep contacting women when they show a lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:59 PM
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and misogynistic fantasies Yeah, everyone knows misogynists advocate for leaving women alone when they're not interested, right? That makes so much sense. It sounds exactly like something someone who hates women would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:57 PM
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Well, like I said, no sane person thinks like the way you showed in your comment. Generally men don't just randomly assume that a woman they're talking to has lost interest. That conclusion is based on actual signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:56 PM
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The point is not valid if you fail to defend it. The truth doesnt need to be defended. I have been married almost 21 years, and my husband and I often get overwhelmed and/or exhausted by life stuff Is the post about marriage, long term relationships or is it about dating? What do you think? It might help to read the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:53 PM
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Reading some of the men’s and women’s responses on here. No sane person thinks like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:52 PM

You can come to whatever conclusion feels good to you, i don't mind. But the point of the post still remains.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:47 PM

Some people might assume “she didn’t want me to come over once so therefore she’s not interested in me anymore.” Do you believe that most men would actually think this after being told not to come over once? Or “she didn’t like my new insta post.” Really? Or “her mom died 5 days ago and still hasn’t sucked my dick, she’s totally over me” I dont believe that you actually think that anyone thinks like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:46 PM

So give me an example from your own life. I don't need to or want to do that. The point still remains that if a woman a man is dating starts losing interest, the best approach is to leave her be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:43 PM

So then you know what losing interest means.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:37 PM
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I dont think even you know what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:35 PM

How do you know she’s lost interest and isn’t just busy at work or something? Its about patters of behaviour. Not just a one time thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:35 PM

I think anyone with any social intelligence and intuition just knows when someone they're talking isn't interested in them. Things like one word replies for example, taking hours or even days to respond to texts. Surely you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:29 PM

Idk You really don't know what losing interest in someone looks like? You've never lost interest in someone and no one has ever lost interest in you, and you dont know anyone who has ever lost interest in someone? Thats very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:22 PM

You didnt answer the question, in your mind what does losing interest look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:15 PM

Just tell me first, in your mind what would a woman losing interest in a man look like? Would she respond to his texts in the same way she did when she was interested? Would she be as attentive when they hang out? In your mind, what does it look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:12 PM

Surely you know what it looks like. Just tell me, in your mind what would a woman losing interest in a man look like? Would she respond to his texts in the same way she did when she was interested? Would she be as attentive when they hang out? In your mind, what does it look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:11 PM

I would imagine that a lack of communication would be appreciated by a woman who shows a lack of interest in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:09 PM

I guess in your world leaving people who arent interested in you alone shows an absence of social intelligence. Thats a very interesting perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:49 AM

The fact that you don’t believe in talking to her Talking to her about her loss of interest? Thats ridiculous. You want her to be confused and hurt. If she has lost interest she won't be hurt. If she hasn't lost interest then she'll text or call me, won't she? Unless she's some NPC with no sense of agency, in which case its best to leave her alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:48 AM

You are reacting to perceived slights and assuming loss of interest If you have any social intelligence you can tell when someone is no longer interested in you. to see if she chases you, Nope. The point is to leave her alone and thats it. Be a man, ask if she lost interest Again, if you have social intelligence you dont need to ask. You can tell. Its so dumb asking a woman if she's lost interest. If you have to ask, then its obvious. If you can’t do that, you definitely don’t need to be having …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:45 AM
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Because I leave women alone once they've lost interest? What an odd thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:42 AM

Leaving someone who has lost interest alone isnt punishing them. That doesnt even make sense. If she's lost interest, she won't care. Isn't this obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:29 AM

This whole thing of oh just detach and she might come back is also stupid advice. Thats literally not whats being said. I dont get why people who didnt actually read the ppost bother commenting. Be honest, did you actually read the whole post?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:27 AM

Nope. There is no mind games in leaving a woman alone once she's lost interest. Why announce it? She lost interest. Move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:25 AM

Can you explain how leaving alone a woman who has lost interest is "revenge fantasy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:24 AM

Thats not whats being said, but im sure you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:23 AM

Nope. Its just leaving her alone since she's lost interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:22 AM

He cares enough to leave her alone when he sees she's lost interest. If she has any sense of agency and she was genuinely into him, she'll be the one to reach out to him when he stops. The only reason she wouldn't is if she's not interested in him anymore. Its so obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:55 AM

Why would she reach out to somebody who doesn’t act like an adult in this scenario? If she doesn't reach out to a man who cared about her and texted regularly when he stops doing it then she's not actually interested in him, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:50 AM

If thats the case, she'll be the one to reach out...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:39 AM

If thats the case, she'll reach out and talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:36 AM

you should confront the problem you feel with her and then make a decision Whats the point? "Confronting" her loss of interest isn't gonna make her more interested. And if she has lost interest, im sure she'd appreciate being ghosted by a man she's lost interest in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:34 AM

Read the last sentence of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:25 AM

I need me a simp! This is like an OF girl saying she needs customers. It goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:00 AM
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What does that have to do with the post you're commenting on?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:09 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:59 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:30 AM
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And now you know why I make the posts i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:38 AM
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I don't know why you bother with the same message I don't know why you bother commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:07 AM
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This is when I report and move on. Thats exactly what a real man does. He reports people online for saying things he doesn't like. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:21 PM
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What is stopping you from asking her out? After asking her out, how are you going to contact each other on the day of the date, and even before and after?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:11 PM
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The point still remains that for things to change collectively, it has to start on an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:30 PM
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She has no reason to want to be with you because you are an unknown. Thats what giving her your number so she can text you is for... Talk to her. Interact with her. Flirt with her Just out of curiosity, how do you think a man would give a woman his number without talking to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:28 PM
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I won't leave my wife alone Based on the content of the post beyond the title, i would have thought that its obvious that this post applies to single men who are dating. Just in case it needs to be said, it doesn't apply to men talking to their mothers, sisters, wives, bosses, coworkers or women in general. Its about dating and men chasing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:23 PM
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Your assertion is that women have become entitled My assertion was that too much attention from men makes women entitled and self centered, which is true. That reduces a desire for a relationship to mere attraction, Physical attraction is what keeps most relationships going, whether we want to acknowledge it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:58 PM
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Women, as a whole, do not expect to be pursued by or receive attention from every man I never said they do. Effort toward a person who doesn't wanna receive it is meaningless This is basically what the post is saying. The issue being described doesn't stem from women holding a position of power. I never said that women hold a position of power. I know the don't. and not acknowledging that they cannot force a different result This is why the post says that if a woman has any sense of agency, she …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:40 PM
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If you want to take zero social risks as a man, you will be hiding in the dark. The comment you're responding to literally says that men should give their number to women and if they (the women) text them, set up a time and place to hang out. This is actually the most intelligent approach for men because if the woman text you, you know that she's definitely interested. Getting her number means she might reply without actually being interested. She may just be bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:17 PM
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Disagree that it works the way you think it does. Okay, so how does it actually work?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:15 PM
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I know because she has commented on many of my other posts and I've said the same things to her. Aren't you wondering why she isnt arguing against this part of what im saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:28 PM
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She knows whose post she's commenting on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:15 PM
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So every time a woman makes a post and a man comments on it, it's because he thinks she's correct? If the same man commented on the same woman's post every time she makes a post then yes, its very likely that she's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:04 PM
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The truth is if my opinions were wrong, you wouldn't bother commenting on them, and yet you do basically every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:26 AM
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Again, none of this works on me. I'm right and none of your defensive tactics will mean im wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:53 AM
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I would argue this is the argument of the incels that go on shooting sprees This is just an attempt to shame me out of what I said. It doesnt work on me. I understand how the ego works so I know im not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:45 AM
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it's normal and natural to like having one's ego stroked. Just because something is seen as normal and natural in an insane asylum (the world), that doesn't mean it actually is normal and natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:37 AM
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Maybe some influential people have to do something individually as an example first. Bit it still boils down to people doing things individually first. Its just most people are NPCs so they need others they look up to to do it first. But ultimately you need social enforcement. It cant be enforced. It has to happen individually by choice for it to mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:35 AM
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when I choose to wear sexy clothes, I enjoy getting compliments from RESPECTFUL men who see me as a person, even if I don't feel drawn to them. Yes, because they stroke your ego. Naturally, you're not gonna be drawn to most men who compliment you, meaning they just go around stroking the egos of women who arent drawn to them, which inflates those women's egos, which is the problem. Other women absolutely want guys to do the first step. This is why I said if the woman has any sense of agency and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:26 AM
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That’s a horrible opinion of people Its the reality of how the human ego works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:22 AM
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your saying it because you think women are attention seeking and entitled. I never said women are attention seeking. I said the attention makes them self centered and entitled, which it does, and it makes sense that it does. Anyone who gets attention for just existing will inevitably become self centered and entitled regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:11 AM
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it’s about punishing women. How is leaving someone alone punishing them, especially if theyve made it known that they wanna be left alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:00 AM
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Most men don't give women their numbers, they ask women for theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:58 AM
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You want men to be bitter When did I say that? and think that women just get so much attention The reality is many women do get attention without actually doing anything worth the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:57 AM
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That’s literally not it. So men shouldn't leave women alone and keep approaching them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:06 AM
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these are problems for a culture to solve. How is ''culture" going to solve a collective problem, if not through individuals in that culture changing their behaviour individually?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:57 AM
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“Most women” don’t “develop feelings” for a guy until they’ve hanged out with him alone for a bit. Then men should give such women their numbers, and if the women text them, set up a time and place to hang out alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:52 AM
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I don't think you know what not trying means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:16 AM
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they were attracted Without me trying. Thats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:00 AM
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there is no naturally attracting women In your experience I don't doubt this is true. In mine however it isn't. In fact, the most fun I've had with women was when I attracted them without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:36 AM
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You dont have to agree with something for it to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:19 AM
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So basically it’s about sex These are your words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:18 AM
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women are passive in general they don’t know they like you until they have an emotional response They sound like NPCs. your advice is dumb Its only dumb if you're enable to naturally attract women and have them interested in you without trying. I'm pretty sure thats whats going on with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:16 AM
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Regardless of how "it works out", I'm still right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:56 PM
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Men are not the prize. Whoever has courage is the prize. And whoever needs the other to initiate otherwise nothing happens isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:45 PM
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For most women, they get need a man to initiate and make the first obvious move. Exactly. This means men are the prize because they have courage, which women lack. Which means men really dont need to try to get women to like them. Its women who should try to get men to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:36 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:34 PM
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Once initial contact and intentions are made. Who usually makes the initial contact?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:06 PM
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How is texting, calling, remembering details, asking about them, reassuring them, making plans Do most women do any of these things, or do they wait for the man to do them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:57 PM
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Pregnancy, std’s, Physical abuse…. And because of this men need to sell themselves to women who are cowards? Thats ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:16 PM

Certain jokes never get old for children (who dont have a very high IQ), so i get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:10 PM

You made the same "joke" on the last post i made without an Esther Vilar quote so...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:23 PM
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Congrats, you are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:06 PM
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Because sex and relationships in general are less safe for women. In what way? Women are more risk averse Meaning that they are cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:05 PM
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If the post has an Esther Vilar quote, you complain, if it doesnt, you also complain. Its like you're trying to potray women as a stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:03 PM
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Boohoo. You're not disproving the point of my post. It’s less safe for a woman to initiate. How? If she initiates and he’s not attracted he’ll still probably pump and dump. Why would initiating have to lead straight to sex? If he wants easy pussy the least he can do is make the first move. If she's "easy pussy" then there's nothing stopping her from initiating, except being a coward, which most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:55 PM
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Except for initiate. Thats the main thing, and they dont even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:47 PM
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So don’t initiate. Don’t text. Don’t call. Don’t remember any little details about them. Don’t make them feel like you care. Don’t do ask them about themselves. Don’t reassure them. Don’t make plans. Do women generally do any of these things? I dont mean the exceptions, I mean women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:44 PM
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I think in your mind, not trying means not taking care of oneself or dressing nice or whatever, and thats not what the post is about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:51 PM
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Thats the point. When it feels natural, it's not trying to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:49 PM
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No, thats not true. I've gotten to know women without trying to impress them at all. And ironically its only in the cases that I've tried to impress that I've "failed".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:33 PM
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Honestly if I liked someone and then they showed up to our early dates making very little effort, I'd just drop them and move on there and then. The reality is if a man was making no effort but you didnt know it, it wouldn't make any difference to you if you actually liked him, unless he was being objectively unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:28 PM
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I'd rather be single than tap dance to be liked by women. But thats just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:26 PM

Most men have to somehow impress a woman to get her to like them This means most if the women who you get involved with don't genuinely like you. Thats sad, and here you are advocating for trying to impress them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:25 PM
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Whats the point of removing comments that agree? That just limits what people can say. Its not even necessary to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:40 PM
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They do. No, they actually dont. Unless they have no free will. I was at a childhood friends wedding this weekend. He has a PhD from MIT and his wife's vows were implying she was smarter than him, and his vows played into that. Followed by hours of him pretending to want to dance to general issue fem cringe music. Probably over 100k paid by him. The phrase humiliation ritual kept coming to mind Well, to begin with, your friend didnt actually have to get married. Thats a mentally challenged choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:38 PM
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Interesting. So in your mind getting to know a man is the same exact thing as trying to impress him?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:25 PM
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If she feels like another guy does it for her better (and "it" could be literally anything) it's wraps. And you think tap dancing to impress is the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:23 PM
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No, it's possible to like people without being impressed by them. Thats also fine. There's still no need for men to try and impress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:22 PM
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all relationships are a series of performative hoop jumping for men They don't have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:18 PM
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It's not degrading to get to know someone. There's a difference between trying to get to know someone and trying to impress someone. Don't you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:17 PM
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Your monthly cycle, birth control failure, and pregnancy don’t care about the length of your relationship So all men who go on a date with a woman should pay just in case?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:35 PM
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Men are really out here calling a date a financial investment Its women who call it that. Also, if you're getting pregnant on the first few dates, you're doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:55 PM
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Well, thats actually nice. But the truth is many men pay because they know that not paying means no second date. The average man knows that paying increases the chances of his date liking him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:31 PM
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I've never actually known any of these women that apparently get mad about paying for coffee. Well, you dont date women as a man, thats why. Most men offer and want to pay and that's that, in my experience. Do you think that could possibly be because they know not paying means there's no second date or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:16 PM
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Paying for a coffee on a first meeting seems to be something that would create drama with you already. Why do you think women dont even want to pay for their own coffee? OP, when should sex first happen when you start dating someone? It doesn't actually matter. It should happen naturally whenever it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:11 AM
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You implied both previously. What did i say?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 10:31 AM
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It’s true fir all 4 billion women? In all my post I always imply that its not all women. From a guy who admits he has no dating experience? When did i say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:22 AM
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But what if whats being said is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:03 AM
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I think we need to define what is meant by “drama” to have a meaningful discussion here. Well, as a starting point when you hear about drama in relationships and dating, what comes to mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:38 AM
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Sounds like my posts hit too close to home...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:21 AM
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You’ve made (another daily) post on it. No i didn't. I haven't made any post about unnecessary drama in relationships. It’s irrelevant And yet here you are...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:14 AM
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But I didnt ask anyone about dating dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:05 AM
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No dude, you don’t ask someone to fix your car if they’ve no fixing car experiences. Did i ask anyone to "fix my car"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:00 AM
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Do you know that its possible to make observations about collective human behaviour without it having to do with the person making the observation? Thats what this post is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:52 AM
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Thats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:45 AM
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all the people who talk about how much they hate drama are always participating in it. Well, that can't always be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:04 AM
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I am unsure what the debate or discussion is even supposed to be about Everyone else who commented seems to get what its about, whether they agree or not. What do you think that means?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:12 AM
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So the post isn't wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:05 AM
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Wait so you think people should love people other than their kids unconditionally? The people they have those kids with, yes. Also, unconditional love doesnt mean putting up with abuse. If your child who you supposedly love unconditionally became abusive towards you, would you just allow it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:29 AM
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I’m not unintelligent Well, you're taking the word unconditional literally. Thats not an intelligent thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:17 AM
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Whether you like it or not, you are the result of how your parents conditioned you so you're essentially an extension of their unconsciousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:03 AM
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Unconditional means without condition. Yes, as in the love isnt dependent on external and superficial things. A lack of intelligence makes people think unconditional live means literally staying in an abusive relationship. And unfortunately we can go back and forth for days but as long as that intelligence is lacking, you'll still not understand what love actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:01 AM
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You can't be entirely separate from the people who "created" you and socially conditioned you. Even your lack of understanding of what unconditional love is is the result of how you were conditioned by your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:58 PM
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I'll repeat what I said, unfortunately most people lack the intelligence to understand what unconditional love actually means. It doesn't mean forcing yourself on to people who don't want you ir putting up with disrespect. I know you think it does, but it doesnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:56 PM
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My point is you are a reflection if your parents. You arent separate from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:53 PM
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Like I said before, unfortunately most people have an unintelligent view of what unconditional love actually means. If you think it means forcing yourself on to someone who doesn't even like you then i dint even know what to say to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:51 PM
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Individual traits don’t make a person A collection of them does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:50 PM
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And she doesn’t want to spend time with you. Why would unconditional love mean forcing myself on someone who doesn't want to spend time with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:46 PM
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Are children and their parents the same people? So you have no traits that either your mum or dad have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:41 PM
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And she says she never wants to have sex with you or have you touch her again… In other words, she's breaking up with me. Unconditional love doesn't mean forcing yourself on someone who clearly doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:38 PM
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Well, you're the one who brought it up. Im simply sticking by what i originally said about parents not genuinely loving their kids. Love isn't some switch that can be turned on and off where the mother switches it off in relation to the father of her children but somehow turns it on in relation to the children. Either its there or it isnt there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:36 PM
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And my dad had kids with a woman he didn’t love unconditionally. How is this not supporting the point I'm making? Their love for me has never once been questioned Well, it is, by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:30 PM
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What do you think conditional means? Like I said, there is a difference between physical attraction and unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:28 PM
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My mom’s love for me exists in spite of her relationship with my father So your mum had kids with a man she didn't love unconditionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:23 PM
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I’m not talking about abuse… but you’re with a woman and she gains 160lbs and has 0 desire to lose it. She stops having sex with you. She stops putting effort into the relationship at all… Well, first of all her no longer having sex with me would mean she's no longer attracted to me, so the best thing to do would be to leave her alone. Secondly, sexual attraction and unconditional love are two different things. I can love someone unconditionally without being sexually attracted to them. I can st…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:21 PM
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Yes. Unfortunately most people are so unintelligent that they think unconditional love means staying in an abusive relationship or putting up with shitty behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:12 PM
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So because my mom and dad got divorced my mom doesn’t love me? If she never loved your father unconditionally to begin with then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:10 PM
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NO ONE loves unconditionally You dont love unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:09 PM
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I’m a teacher and even the worst parents still have love They have a biological attachment and response to them. Thats different from love. According to you, even parents who abuse their children still have love for them, which makes love basically meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:05 PM
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Im not overgeneralising. Im just generalising.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:01 PM
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None of these things mean anything about who they actually are and what kind of person they are. You can be all these things and still be a bad person. Maybe this is why women end up in abusive relationships. You only look at the surface and think you know someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:59 PM
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So yeah, I responded to the generalization. If you meant it as “this has been my experience,” you should’ve said that. I meant it as "this has been the experience of countless men."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:20 PM
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I just repeated what I wrote in the post, so why did you respond to it in the first place? I literally said in the post that obviously not all women are like that but enough are for me to able to generalise. This was written in the post before you decided to engage with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:07 PM
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I just repeated what I wrote in the post, so why did you respond to it in the first place? I literally said in the post that obviously not all women are like that but enough are for me to able to generalise. This was written in the post before you decided to engage with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:07 PM
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You’re taking a type of person and acting like it’s how women operate in general. Many women are like that, enough for me to be able to generalise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:38 PM
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“being” is not an action. Just like how who you are is not an action...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:24 PM
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But the idea we can't conclude a persons personality based on career, training, and education is not realistic. So you know who a random doctor is as a human being just by finding out that they're a doctor?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:19 PM
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“Acting supportive” is doing something. So someone who acts supportive is an actor, according to you because who you are is basically what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:16 PM

Ironically, your idea of unconditional love is very childish and naive. You're probably one of those people who think that unconditional love means staying in an abusive relationship or putting up with shitty behaviour, arent you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:08 PM
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And “who you are” isn’t separate from “what you do.” Yes it is. You can be a psychopath and an evil person and spend weekends volunteering to hide from people what you really are. Honestly, some of you really go out of your way to cast yourselves as the victim. The post must've triggered you. If you're not like the women described in the post then it's not about you. But such women do exist whether you want to acknowledge it or not and pointing out that they exist doesn't mean someone is paintin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:06 PM
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Not understanding something doesn't make it babble.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:01 PM
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But you choosing that is a reflection of a combination of circumstances but also ambition/lack their of ambition. So you think every garbage collector lacks ambition? A bit of empathy would help you see that sometimes people just have challenging lives and a lack of opportunity. Interestingly, you're essentially showing that you look down on people based on what they do for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:57 PM
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But really what’s the difference between who you are vs what you do? What you do is external, who you are is internal. Being a garbage collector has nothing to do with who someone is, for example. I'm sure many women think it does which is why they wouldn't wanna date one, also because it doesn't seem like it pays well. Yes, parents love their kids Most parents don't even actually love their kids. If mothers can't even love the father of their kid for who he is, they obviously can't love his chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:24 AM
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Why would what the post says mean that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:51 AM
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The very first thing we all experience is "I wanna eat that" in a sexy way. Everything else comes afterwards. But what comes after depends on how we feel safety. And thats where the difference comes in. You're talking about sexual attraction while the post is about love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:47 AM
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But then it's super rare to find the one I love for HIM. So does that mean that its super rare for you to be in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:54 AM
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I love that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:42 AM
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I had no idea that I was Esther Vilar.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:38 AM
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Are you suggesting that people live together with someone and doesn't love who they are as a human being? Yes. This is actually the norm. Most people get into relationships out of fear of being alone, not because they genuinely live the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:32 AM
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Every time I thought I was well enough to continue I'd read a few words and start throwing up again. The truth does have that effect on people who live a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:30 AM
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Atleast how attractive a woman is has something to do with her on some level, not what she has or does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:46 AM
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You would think! But unfortunately, I've seen takes where, yes. They truly do think all women are like that! It's wild. Obviously, not all women are like that. But unfortunately, many are, which leads to some men thinking that all women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:28 AM
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Surely, it would go without saying that not all people of a particular group would behave in a way that the general collective does? Generalisations of collective behaviour dont mean literally everyone who belongs to that collective behaves that way. It just means many (enough to be able to generalise) do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:19 AM
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Did anyone actually say "all women are like this"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:16 AM
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Again, if there was no truth in the post and what Etsher Vilar wrote, you wouldn't be here commenting. Check out that study. Its actually legitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:45 AM
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The reality is if there was no truth in the post, you wouldn't have spent this much time on it. The amount of comments you've made on this post reminds of how only hit dogs roller, or something like that. Also, you should check out this study about the cognitive decline I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:33 AM
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I'm gonna take that as a yes. I ask because studies have been done showing that they cause cognitive decline in people who got them, and I have a strong feeling thats whats going on here. Essentially, im giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you aren't usually this slow and that you have cognitive decline induced by that substance you took (you probably took more than one shot). Great, will you now stop claiming that shit? Whether you're intellectually able to face the facts or no…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:14 AM
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Like you always commenting on my posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:05 AM
1

Okay, sure. So did you get the covid injections?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:02 AM
1

Just out of curiosity, did you get the covid injections by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:58 AM
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But no boy was taught anything in your example….he wasnt even there. The point is the boy would be taught to pay. Its was an example to make a point and an intelligent person would see how a boy would be taught in that example. I think you might be too slow (or pretending to be) to understand what is being said and how examples work. So, let's just agree to disagree. How can’t you see, that that doesnt add up? It does add up, you're just unable to see that. The example shows how conditioning wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:48 AM
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But your claim up until now was, that boys are conditioned by their mothers, to only be seen as recources. That they see themselfes as resources. Again, in the example i gave, a boy would be taught to oay for dates and do other things to cater to women and girls are taught to expect those things from men. This is why I dont bother answering questions from people like you because I know you will always go out of your way to not understand what is being said. Even though I have just shown you how …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:31 AM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:17 AM
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Because I don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:15 AM
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Wow. Im giving you an example of how children would be conditioned to behave in certain ways. In the example a gave if the child was a boy he would be told to always pay for dates, while the girl is told not to pay, obviously. At this point I'm sure you're just playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:14 AM
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How did you teach your children anything? By telling them things and telling them how to act, obviously. Your question is so silly because if you know how children are taught and trained by their parents, then you know how they are taught to be resources. You may disagree that thats what they are taught, but the answer to 'how' they are taught should be obvious if you're a parent or have besic intelligence. For example, the other day a woman commented on a post I made saying even though she like…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:55 AM
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In the other ways children are taught, besides watching how their parents act. For example, the ither day a woman commented on a post I made saying even though she likes hanging out with her boyfriend who oays for everything, she would never pay for herself on a date. Why? Because her mother told her not to. That's how conditioning works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:50 AM
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Men are told not to simp And yet they still do, which is where my posts come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:46 AM
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and flaired it as a debate I flaired it as a debate because if I dont, the mods remove my posts. and now you’re trying to disparage me for contributing to it when it is public. I'm simply saying i didn't ask you the question so how you see it doesn't matter, especially since you've already decided there's no truth in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:45 AM
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Not really, hence why there's so many simps walking around. I guess they haven't read my posts yet so I must keep posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:38 AM
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You are not providing anything to this so-called debate by continuing this circular reasoning. Its a good thing i didnt ask you the question then, isnt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:37 AM
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Usually, children see what their parents are modeling and try to recreate that. Is that the only way children are trained and conditioned by their parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:34 AM
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You make weekly posts about simping, Someone has to. Its a thankless job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:29 AM
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This post is, indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:27 AM
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HOW? HOW ARE THEY TAUGHT THAT? How are children taught anything? If you answer that, you will have the answer to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:26 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:13 AM
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Okay, so I'm not wrong that such mothers, as described in the post, do exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:13 AM
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she is teaching her son that a woman doesn’t rely on a man to provide for her. Thats not what little boys are actually taught, hence all the simps walking around. They are taught to provide for women and cater to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:12 AM
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It’s not by example as most women work. Ao do most women not teach or influence their children since they work? Are you then saying most mothers are only mothers in a biological sense since apparently they dont raise their children? You think paying on a date is being seen as recource? Expecting men to pay for dates is seeing them as a resource. The great recource of a steak dinner. Its interesting that you, a woman says this and yet women themselves have such a problem with paying for themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:50 AM
1

So why did you take it literally?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:47 AM
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Well, it was. you don't even know the difference between sarcasm and a hyperbole so... No intelligent person actually thinks people literally can't break free of their conditioning from childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:43 AM
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You never put an /s so no I did not take it sarcastically. No one will. Do you think sarcasm and a hyperbole are the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:36 AM
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Somehow women overcame the social conditioning that told them to stay home and be submissive But they didn't overcome the social conditioning that told them to see men as a resource and always look for some material benefits to relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:26 PM
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I'm sure this was posted yesterday Can you show me the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:38 PM
-1

They might instill tenants of Patriarchy, What are those tenants, for example? Could they include men being seen as a resource to provide for women and treat them like they're special, or is that unthinkable and would never happen? but maliciously? Who said they do it maliciously?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:20 PM
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Trust me, you need this book more than I will ever need to engage with your post. How condescending. . my family actually explicitly raised me to be a resource for men Oh, so that kind of thing does happen? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:57 PM
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On some level it's true. I admit it Well, you're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:51 PM
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I think you may be trying to psychoanalyse a random person as a defense mechanism to not address the actual substance of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:50 PM
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You love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:43 PM
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And what do they teach them….. To accept being seen as a resource by women. be sure to make your own money and never depend on a man! Would you say there are no women who teach their daughters that men should provide for them, pay for dates, etc? Just the other day a woman commented on my post saying she would never pay for herself on a date because her mother told her not to...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:14 AM
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so how do they do what you accuse them of. You literally said they still have time to raise and teach their kids. Thats how they do it 🤦 And you want to explain how they did that at Esther Vilars time? Because they were raising and teaching their kids... If a woman from that era wrote about it, don't you think its based on her own observations of women at that time? We already established that back then women were legally restrained from having their own recources. Which means they had more time…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:50 AM
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They absolutly do raise their kids….. That's the point. And if those kids are boys, they get conditioned to grow up to be seen as a resource by women when they grow up. They got conditioned to grow up to find purpose in being a "provider" and to essentially put women on a pedestal and treat them like they're special. You seem to just hate what women do irregardless of what that even is. Nope. Im talking about a specific thing here which absolutely does happen. And I'm not the only one to notice …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:20 AM
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Do you think mothers who work raise and influence their kids or do they just work and don't spend any time teaching and raising their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:21 AM
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They spend more time raising Kids and showing that they equally participate in the labor market? They spend more time raising kids and teaching the male children to grow up and accept being seen as a resource and they teach little girls to see men as a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:57 AM
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That doesn't mean they can literally never change. It means the conditioning/brainwashing is so ingrained that its almost like they can't. Do you take everything you read literally?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:56 AM
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This doesn't change the mentality women have and the fact that women spend more time than men raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:56 AM
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The premise of the book is falls from the start. Again, even in 2026 what she wrote is still true. Women haven't really evolved psychologically since the book was written.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:44 AM
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That is the nature of all relationships. I don't doubt that its the nature of the relationships you personally get involved in. What the hell do you think the Red Pill is supposed to be waking you up from? I dont care about the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:42 AM
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she presumes women would „train“ men to do things What do you think parenting is about? Lets brain storm together here: what was a woman supossed to do, when she had a child with her husband? She could not work anymore, there was no childcare that would allow a job and her husband was legally able to terminate her employment, if he said she didn’t fulfill her household duties. So how exactly would she not live of her husbands income? The point is women still have the mentality described in the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:29 AM
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You think your employer, the military, or your team at school isn't choosing you solely on the basis of what they stand to gain from you? This is the same as an intimate relationship with another human being to you? We are NOT children or women who are valued just for existing. We are MEN! And being a man means you build your value, it's not something that is handed to you like a damsel. It's how respect is earned, not given. You are literally the type of man the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:26 AM
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None of what you wrote invalidates the points made in her book. In fact, what she wrote in the 70s still being true today is actually a sad commentary on women. The reason men today resonate with the book is because they've seen the behaviour and mentality discussed in the book in women they've interacted with and been with. This is true whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:14 AM
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you do understand under what Kind of circumstances she wrote that book yes? No, please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:39 AM
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If women in the west had everything then body autonomy wouldn’t be in the hands of the government. Were you saying this when covid injections were mandated?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:20 AM
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Probably when they became old enough to engage in relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:43 AM
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of men’s creation correct? Those men were created by women and conditioned to behave and think the way they do. Unless ofcourse we say mothers have no influence in how their children turn out as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:35 AM
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You understand that men subjugating women has to happen first, in order for women to scheme to take resources Men have to be born first and raised by women and conditioned to be seen as a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:31 AM
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And so the solution to prevent themselves from being “used” was to restrict women’s economic participation ? It was essentially a form of revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:30 AM
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Account for the men that vote against women interests? Women also vote against women’s interests... Men that physically abuse and kill women? Being conditioned by women to serve women doesnt stop psychopaths from existing. With your logic women would be on top of the world and have everything they want. In the west they basically do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:29 AM
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Why and how would women have the power to make men collect resources for us? Why? Because women think men's role in life is to do things for them. How? Through the way children are raised and programmed by women. Why the fuck would we concoct some scheme to make men subjugate us The "subjugation" is a result of men knowing deep down that women use them and no one likes being used, even if it gives their life meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:17 AM
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You understand that the start of permanent civilizations resulted in more conflict over resources, which was fought over by MEN as they are the stronger sex, and more resources = more power. And those resources were also given to women and even today women think men's role is to provide them with resources. They even see men themselves as resources. you clearly think men are nothing more than worker ant drones. Yes, they have been programmed to be worker drones for women's benefit. you’ve proved…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:06 AM
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Women cannot be at home running the domestic sphere unless men put them there. The men they raised and conditioned... And women also raised those sons. In a different way which produced different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:32 AM
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Men are conditioned by women and men can never change because men are raised by women. Where did I say they can never change?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:31 AM
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Who created the system where mothers stay at home? Men did. Who raised and conditioned those men as children?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:19 AM
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Huh. So we're just that smart. Well, a mentally challenged woman raising children will also influence and condition them. It has nothing to do with being smart. Children are easily conditioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:18 AM
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Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:16 AM
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What does it say its impossible for men to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:14 AM
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women are magic/extraordinarily clever If you think that influencing children to think and behave a certain way (raising children) makes women magic then okay 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:11 AM
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they can’t break out of this chokehold? Most can't. Thats how social conditioning works. Also, conservative fathers, so like half the country, also tell their sons it’s his role to be a provider and to man up for his future family, etc. And who raised them from the moment they were born?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:09 AM
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So you didnt actually read the post then...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:01 AM
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What did i say is t possible for men to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:01 AM
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I'm saying that men are obviously happy in this role And what am I saying is the reason they are happy in this role where they get used and seen as a resource?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:49 AM
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I think you're purposely acting like you're missing the point. Im saying men have been conditioned to find happiness in being used and seen as a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:36 AM

Its understandable that you as a woman would interpret men being used as being "needed".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:33 AM
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or they really do enjoy being needed? Like I wrote in the post, since they were children they were conditioned to find joy and purpose in being used by women. Then why aren't they taking over the parenting in order to break this (obviously) hideous cycle? Because they are still conditioned to find meaning in being seen as a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:30 AM
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Im saying women condition little boys to grow up into men who find purpose in being used by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:24 AM
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This isnt true, most cohabitating couples have both people working fulltime jobs. Because they don't have a choice. they need to decorrupt themselves and protect their children. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:23 AM
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If mothers conditioned their children to "appreciate who they are," it would incentivize the children to be complacent with their current abilities. You dont really understand child psychology. Teaching children to accept being used because otherwise "it would incentivize the children to be complacent with their current abilities" is essentially child abuse. Children's abilities dont stagnate just because they are loved for who they are by their mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:22 AM
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Because women want to be provided for, so men work to provide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:21 AM
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If women are so bad at parenting rhen maybe men should step up and be the primary parent instead. Women want to be provided for, so the man has to work while she conditions the children. . Why are these men allowing their sons to be corrupted by their mothers? Because those men were also corrupted by their mothers, thats the whole point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:17 AM
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If she's physically attracted to the low IQ man with money, she won't mind, especially if she herself doesnt have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:16 AM
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Like I said. Prostitution with extra steps Thats what marriage is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:50 AM
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Its the money. Let's be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:49 AM
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I respect him, i dont value the relationship. Sure...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:28 AM
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Its amazing how you don't see that no woman who respects a man would talk about his dick online like that, and then say she doesnt even value the relationship. How do you not see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:22 AM
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Because you just said what you said about him to make it seem like you respect your current boyfriend in comparison, but you dont really.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:17 AM
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Who does it seem like i respect more? Your ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:14 AM
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Im simply probing the point that if a man "provides" for a woman he isnt getting much in return from, she won't respect him. Because of that, she will tell people online that she doesn't value the relationship and tell them about his ED. Both of which you did. Do you have any self-awareness at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:02 AM
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No i dont think he would care. Right, im sure he would be indifferent to a woman whi he pays everything for talking about his dick not working to strangers. Keep lying to yourself. maybe you should mind your business. You're the one who brought uo your boyfriend's ED on my post, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:54 PM
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Frankly if he told reddit what the size if my tits were i wouldnt care, because reddit is completely anonymous and no one knows either of us. So you think if he knew you told people on reddit about his dick not working he wouldn't care? And is that how you behave towards people you respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:51 PM
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Lmao ok He's not wrong. Even you dont respect your temporary boyfriend thats why you told a random stranger on reddit that his dick doesnt work. Am I wrong? Did you not do that? And would you do that if you respected him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:44 PM
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Or maybe he feels the same way? You can tell yourself that if it makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:27 AM
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Your own words throughout this interaction and your other comments. I mean, you literally said that you don't value the relationship. No man who has self-respect would be with such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:03 AM
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Do you want me to ask him how he feels about us together and tell you what he says? Again, there are many men with no self-esteem or self respect who actually like being used by women. Your "boyfriend" is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:17 AM
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Alright let let just disobey my parents because a guy on reddit said i should. Yes, if your parents are telling you to be a leech you should disobey them, unless ofcourse you're okay with being a leech. What grown adult even worries about disobeying the parents? This is so odd. is very low-self esteem. Like you said, his dick doesnt work. Do you think that wouldn't affect a man's self esteem? the happy fulfilling relationship hes in Stop lying. You yourself said you don't even value the relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:13 AM
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Yeah i dont particularily value this relationship I could tell. Regardless, the fact that i dont pay doesnt mean i dont value the relationship, i just value my parents opinion of me more. It means you dont value the man you're with and like using him, and you also like using your parents as an excuse for using him even though you're an adult and should have no problem paying for yourself regardless of what your misguided parents taught you. That's part of being an adult, which you aren't yet. He…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:33 AM
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I know. From an objective perspective, a woman who wouldn't even pay for herself on a date because her parents said not to is still a little girl, not a woman. And it shows that she doesnt actually value the man she's in a relationship with, and she's probably the kind of little girl who would go on reddit telling strangers that her boyfriend who pays for everything has a dick that "low-key doesnt work".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:57 AM
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we just wouldnt be able to do anything that costs money. Right, coz then you would have to pay, which your parents told you not to do. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:03 AM
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Okay, I'll take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:02 AM
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I'm saying there is a small number of men who will be okay with being used by women due to low self esteem, even when sex isnt involved, but the majority wouldn't provide for (be used by) a woman they're not getting sex from, which is what you're also saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:00 AM
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again I say that the online echo chambers aren't good for people, and aren't often accurate. Again, what im saying is based on women's behaviour in the real world and their own words in the real world. Also, if a woman comes online and says something, such a woman still exists in the real world and has the same thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:58 AM
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He just so happens to pay whenever it costs money. If he didn't pay, you said even if you had the money you wouldn't pay for yourself because your parents told you not to. This is the mentality of a woman using a man, a man who you're online telling the world that his dick low-key doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:57 AM
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You're actually agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:54 AM
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You must be choosing women who are like that or something. The ones who aren't like that are almost non-existent. after all most women work now so there's no reason A parasitic mentality which is almost inherent in most women is the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:52 AM
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There are men out there that find joy in providing even when they get nothing in return. Yes, they are men out there who find joy in being used by women, even if their dick low key doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:43 AM
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So you're essentially just using this guy who somehow doesn't want to have sex with a woman he finds attractive. This proves whats being said in the post. Its a relationship based on him paying, as you've just shown. Kinda like prostitution with less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:41 AM
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know you're reading a certain echo chamber about how women behave No, I'm seeing women's behaviour and listening to their own words. Just the other day I saw a video of a woman saying men are tools and their role is to provide resources for women, and many other women agreed. That woman is just the honest and loud one, while other women are more quiet about it. In reality, in my life the only (very few) women who expected paid dinners etc, were ridiculed. By who? The men they expected to pay? Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:36 AM
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Avoid the nails and lashes crew? Like I wrote in the post, even when they seem different (no lashes, nails, etc.), they generally aren't when it comes to using men. Its the one thing women of all backgrounds generally have in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:48 AM
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They used women to satisfy their dick, not because they are deep enough to feel love or have a mutually beneficial relationship Yes, because they realise that being involved with women generally means being used in some way, shape or form, so they match women's energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:46 AM
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No, i dont think i will.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:44 AM
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This is just a manipulation tactic to help you avoid facing the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:32 PM
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Men aren’t being used as resources. Like I said, i dont expect you to be honest and acknowledge the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:19 PM
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The way you're obsessively commenting on this post is very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:02 PM
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If there is zero reason to take me seriously, stop commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:01 PM
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Look, since you belong to the group of people being discussed in the post, I don't actually expect you to be honest and acknowledge the truth. I expect you to do exactly what youre doing now, which is purposely not getting what is being said. I keep telling you that basically all men are used as resources and you keep misquoting me saying that im saying "some men pay". This like i said, is to be expected though because you are who the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:57 PM
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The number of comments you've made on this post tells me you're taking me pretty seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:05 PM
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Do women have no agency of their own? No. This is why there's a lot of cases where women who are teachers sexually abuse students as young as 11 and they just get a slap on the wrist, if even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:03 PM
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“Men sometimes pay” I didn't say this. Who are you quoting? women only value men for resources. If even a chunk of men aren’t having your experience, it’s not universa Like I said, any man who has experience with women knows that generally they gave to "pay to play".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:02 PM
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You’re calling it “collective behaviour” to avoid looking at your own patterns. Im calling it that because that's what it actually is. If it were actually most women, all men would be having your experience. The vast majority of men know that if they don't "provide" or buy women gifts and pay for stuff, they wouldn't get laid and wouldn't have much of a dating life. Basically all men who have experience with women know this, and they have just accepted it. Some even say it's "female nature."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:28 PM
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I can make a post just like you about how all men are parasitic on women But you didn't because you know its not true. Terms like 'gold digger' exist for a reason and they are used more for women than men for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:12 PM
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I’m glad you decided to spare women from your nonsense. What nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:04 PM
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If you keep attracting the same kind of women, that requires some self reflection. It has nothing to do with what I attract and everything to do with collective female behaviour and mentality. I wish i was wrong, and the majority of women were actually genuinely interested in human connection more than resources and seeing men as tools, but thats just not how they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:26 PM
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The ones who aren't as described in the post are unfortunately the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:07 PM
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just means women from your social circle act like this. The majority of women have a parasitic mentality. Its sad but its true. At this point i genuinely think they cant help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:49 AM
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More female tactics to avoid facing the truth about themselves. You're so transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:47 AM
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Observing women's behaviour and listening to their words is how i draw my conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:59 AM
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that sounds phony I don't mind how it sounds to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:38 AM
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Again, I can go my own way and still talk about how toxic 50% of the population is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:11 AM
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I don't, and I can still point out how toxic women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:05 AM
1

you don't see artistic self expression as a way of demonstrating authenticity? Not if involves wearing a mask known as makeup. just date hippy crunchy type ladies who don't like makeup. Isn't it interesting how essentially all women wear makeup and the ones who don't are "hippy crunchy type ladies"? That says a lot about how fake women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:55 AM
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Most women are essentially gold diggers to different degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:53 AM
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Key words being authentic human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:51 AM
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Capitalism and shitty jobs dont make women pretend to care about men just to access their resources. Unless ofcourse we say women are just NPCs with no real free will, which might actually have some truth to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:50 AM
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Then dont debate 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:15 AM
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the point is it needn't be all about sex though Yeah, when you're paying someone to do a job its not about sex, unless its a blow job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:06 AM
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Or how you arrived to such a number? By observing women's behaviour and listening to what they say. Many men actually know that majority of women are like that and most of them for thousands of years have thought its because of nature rather than nurture. So while you're still asking for sources, men have known that women are like that through experience for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:00 AM
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enjoy providing for my nanny because You pay her to do a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:51 AM
-4

Most? Half? 1 out of 5? 80+%
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:50 AM
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Yes, thats why i stopped dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:45 AM
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i don't see what's stopping you Being an authentic human being is whats stopping me from putting clown paint on my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:44 AM
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Nothing. I leave women alone. What I know about what they actually are has made me not want to get involved with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:43 AM
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This is just another way women avoid facing the truth about themselves. Unfortunately for you, it doesnt work on me. What I said is still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:41 AM
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Most women work and earn a living Thats what makes it even worse. Their own money and resources aren't enough, they want men's resources as well and they will pretend to love and care about them to get their resources. Its amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:35 AM
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but i wear makeup and dress up simply because it's a requirement of my job I'm sure thats the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:33 AM
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it makes the parasite allegations kind of hilarious. But it doesnt make them untrue. It actually just means women take advantage of sad men when they're at their lowest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:31 AM
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Pick better women There aren't that many.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:30 AM
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so why do you want to have kids? I don't. Also, atleast children have a legitimate excuse, unlike adult women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:23 AM
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"What value do other human beings of a different gender than me have besides what they can do for me?", this is essentially what you're asking, and it is the question of a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:21 AM
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Using the term "Parasite" implies frustration because it is obviously hyperbolic. I used the word parasitic, which is a metaphor for a person who takes without giving anything in return. By definition a parasite must be a different species from the host. I guess you dont know what a metaphor is. Also, the word used is "parasitic".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:19 AM
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Most men wouldnt be down for it, Exactly. but that doesnt mean that they dont exist. Even women wouldn't respect such men. They would actually take advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:07 AM
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This is true but getting upset about it is the wrong approach. Pointing out something isnt the same as being upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:04 AM
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I don't need to have a monopoly on determining what femininity is to know that its not about wearing makeup and being self obsessed. If you think it is then i feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:03 AM
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Some men genuinely like providing for their partners. Because they know that without that, the woman won't like them. Remove sex from the picture, how many men do you think would "genuinely like" providing for their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:02 AM
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Why is wearing makeup or taking care of your appearance parasitic? I didnt say thats the parasitic part. I said it's what many women think femininity is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:00 AM
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Women aren't motivated by just wanting to fuck like men are. Who said they are? Also, real men are interested in more than just sex. If your relationship is dependent on you opening doors and paying, its not a real relationship. These are the kind of relationships simps are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:12 AM
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Because she's not going to be in a relationship with you if you never do anything nice for her. So your way to keep women in relationships with you is to hold doors open for them and pay for stuff otherwise they won't be with you? Sounds like a genuine relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:52 AM
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That's picking your battles lol How is that picking your battles? Why would holding a door for a woman be picking your battles? They get friendzoned perpetually. Many sinps are in relationships and get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:13 AM
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How is he competition then? Its not about competition. Its about the majority of men being simps in some way, shape or form, which then influences women's behaviour and approach to dating. Also, its likely that since you're a woman, what i see as simp behaviour isnt necessarily what you'll see as simp behaviour so even women you say don't want simps, from my perspective of what a simp is, many of them still get with simps. For example, you may think a man who opens doors for women and pulls out …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:20 PM
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They are men that other women aren't interested in, This isn't true. There are many men in relationships who are also simps. and these women who like simps aren't interesting to men who aren't interested in simping. Most women like simps if they are physically attractive because they're easy to manipulate and use for resources and other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:49 AM
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treat women with respect and as an equal human like you would your mates This isn't what boys are taught. They are essentially taught to put women on a pedestal and treat them like they're special.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:36 AM
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Yes, I hate everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:15 AM
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and think that’s what all women do I never said all women do it. I said its a real thing that happens, which is true. Women who use men are basically on a spectrum. There are those who go on dates primarily for free meals, these are usually on apps like tinder. And then there are those who are interested in the man they're on a date with but if he doesnt pay, they stop liking him, and then there are ones who dont care about who pays, and these are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:14 AM
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I can't imagine being a simp either, but simps still exist 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:20 PM
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But those compliments aren’t making women refuse dates. That's not what's being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:48 PM
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Also if men stopped "simping" all the issues with dating would just get worse. Well, atleast we agree that simps act in a way that affects the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:45 PM
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Women are not pretending to be all over a man for the price of a $8 latte or cocktail lol. You'd be surprised. Some women go on dates just for a free meal. This is a real thing that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:33 PM
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the interest has already been reciprocated. In what way? Saying yes to a free meal? Plenty of women do offer AND pay for their share of the date The minority do. Not the majority, and if they do offer, they only offer to pay for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:25 PM
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Redpill men see what they want to see. I'm not a "redpill man", but I'll just say purple pill women don't see what they don't want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:23 PM
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Just out of curiosity, who do you think would fund and conduct such a study?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:18 PM
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Men being chivalrous, men paying for dates, has nothing to do with simping. Its part of simping. at least offer to pay for the date, is not an unrealistic expectation. Why don't women offer to pay even for themselves and actually mean it? The answer is that the behaviour of simps has made them think that they dont need to. Even the ones that offer to pay for themselves only do it so that the man will insist to pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:16 PM
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They can’t get attention in IRL or in dating apps, so simping is their only way for that Which makes them the problem because they will do ridiculous things to get female attention, and if a lot of men act that way, they will start thinking thats how men should act towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:12 PM
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On the contrary, the majority of women do in fact get simps. Being a simp is a spectrum and most men are on it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:04 PM
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Women are the CEO's of online dating and men are the employees. The fact is no one actually has to be an employee. You apply for a job. The employer doesnt come to you asking you to work. Women have more value because there are less of them There are over 4 billion women in the world, and there are about 8 billion people in the world. So no, there aren't less of them in any meaningful way. while the employees(men) make pennies on the dollar. This is the simp mentality the post is about. Read the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:01 PM
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If you hate women, go your own way like you guys are always threatening. How does saying men jump through hoops for sex equate to hating women? Thats just an emotional response from someone who cant address what is being said. It's doesnt work on me. You can call me an incel, misogynist or whatever. I don't care. I'm still not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:55 AM
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I don't think you understand the point of this sub. Either engage with the content of the post or don't bother commenting at all. They'll post is days old anyway, so why even bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:59 AM
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Just don't date women like that Thanks, I hadn't thought about that. What a great and insightful addition to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:11 AM
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Its like you can't understand the concept of making observations about human behaviour in general without it being personal. You seem like the kind of person who thinks just because someone makes a post about simps, that must mean he's a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:10 AM
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The first question asked told me that answering the questions asked by the person is a waste of time. Secondly, the post is about observations of human behaviour as a whole, not about me personally otherwise I wouldn't make the post if it was about me personally because what would be the point? I personally make it a point to split the bill on dates to weed out women with a parasitic mentality so the question doesnt apply to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:54 PM
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Because asking if I'm dating strippers is a dumb question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:42 PM
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I LOVE how you completely ignored the first comment and only replied to someone replying to it. I LOVE that you love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:18 PM
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Maybe you should talk about it with someone who's more willing to indulge you. I initially didnt answer your question for this reason and you got all butthurt and said i could just call you stupid. This is why I said I'll humour myself and tell you what not being a psychological child is. I was aware of who im talking to. But just to humour myself i chose to answer you knowing you're not able to discuss such topics, its a topic for psychology adults. Psychological children can't deal with such i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:13 PM
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Attractive men don’t have hoops, women sexually throw themselves at him lol Again, being attractive doesnt stop men from being simps. Its a mentality and has little to do with physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:00 PM
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I need you to show me where I said being nice is jumping through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:50 PM
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The only NPC response is from you No, the one saying the "sweet summer child" line repeated by condescending NPCs is clearly the NPC. and those men don’t have to jump through hoops AT ALL!! Being attractive doesn't stop a man from being a simp. Unfortunately, you seem to lack the ability to understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:43 PM
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I don't get why NPCs say this condescending shit. Atleast be creative to stand out from other NPCs. The reality is most men, regardless of looks jump through hoops when dealing with women. Robotic NPC responses don't change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:28 PM
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If they are paying for dates and going on dates that's dating. I had no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:27 PM
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Men who value a woman are more than willing to go the extra mile. Do women go the extra mile? If so, in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:26 PM
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Be an attractive man and there are no hoops, it’s chads world out there Even attractive men jump through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:25 PM
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Where does it say being nice is jumping through hoops? Why are you clowning yourself like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:24 PM
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It's known that some politicians, just like non-politicians, have befriended paedophiles. So how is it a conspiracy theory like you said it is? That doesn't make them an "Epstein class". Whether you like it or not, the world is run by the Epstein class. The US president himself was friends with Epstein. Why do you think no one has been arrested in connection with the files being released? Do you even know the kind of emails that are in the files and whats written in them? Seems like your "adult"…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:20 PM
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So you think someone is mentally a child is they don't believe the same conspiracy theory as you...all right. This is what i mean when I say most people are psychological children. You actually think the whole Epstein thing is a conspiracy theory? Do you even know about the Epstein files released in the department of justice website? He was even good friends with Trump. And in the UK, the King of England was friends with a well known pedophile called Jimmy Saville (look him up). Both of these th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:56 AM
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That's debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:42 AM
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If you want to call me stupid you can just do that. I never said anything about you personally. But just to humour myself, I'll answer your question. The people who arent psychological children think for themselves, question things, and they dont allow themselves to be ruled by the Epstein class while paying taxes to them, which is what the vast majority of people do. Just to name a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:41 AM
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Yeah, let's go with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:18 AM
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And what would distinguish them from the others? They know what distinguishes them from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:10 AM
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Well, it does have meaning to the few people who aren't psychological children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:41 AM
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Interesting. Can you quote where I said it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:32 AM
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Even attractive men still jump through hoops. Being attractive doesn't stop men from being simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:22 AM
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If most adults are children, that makes being a child lose all its meaning. There's a difference between actual children and psychological children. Most people are psychological children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:12 AM
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Who said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:06 AM
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Over 70%. Women are also psychological children. Most men are psychologically 14 and most women are psychologically 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:06 AM
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If you're not jumping through hoops then the post isnt about you. Its literally about a context where men are having to jump through hoops. If that doesnt apply to you, why involve yourself? Does the post say all men, or even most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:04 AM
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, but because they should find somone more compatible instead? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:02 AM
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No sane and intelligent person thinks thats what "hoops" is referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:02 AM
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Its a true claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:01 AM
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Making observations about something isnt the same as complaining. But i get why you feel the need to call it complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:16 AM
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Ok, well maybe dont go out with women that are unpleasant, and then you wont have to put up with i I dont have to put up with it. Do you know that its possible to make observations about human behaviour in general without it being personal?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:07 AM
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Yes, the men you're referring to are psychological children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:06 AM
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Again, just because children think something is worth it doesnt mean it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:58 AM
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Being required to pay for dates otherwise the woman lose interest and putting up with unpleasant behaviours are some of the hoops, yes, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:58 AM
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Read the second paragraph of the post for some examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:48 AM
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Sex with a person you are deeply connected and attracted to is the best thing ever. If you're so deeply connected, why would you have to jump through hoops?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:47 AM
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No, i didnt. They dont have to do it but they still do it because they're simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:47 AM
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Just because children think something is worth it doesn't mean it actually is. Also, im not saying forming relationships isnt worth it, im saying jumping through hoops for sex isnt worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:41 AM
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Like the first sentence of the post says (did you read it?), men dont actually have to jump through hoops to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:35 AM
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That doesn't change the point being made in the post. It actually supports what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:34 AM
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You've decided for them that it's not worth it It isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:21 AM
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I do think sex is a prize. Something that can be paid for cannot be a prize. Only women and simps see it as a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:20 AM
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And yes, you don't just get to invade someone's personal space and body simply because you're interested. If the other person is willing, yes, you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:19 AM
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No, they aren't. They're just things women use simps for to satisfy their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:17 AM
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Why not let men decide? Who is stopping them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:16 AM
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Saying “the post addresses it” is not a rebuttal. It just restates the framing. I'm not trying to give a "rebuttal". I'm simply responding to what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:15 AM
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—men are responding to what gets results. Obviously. The post addresses this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:33 AM
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is not some free choice Read the quote at the end of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:09 AM
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men are just choosing this for no reason misses how the incentives are set up. They choose it to get laid. That's what im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:47 AM
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Many men jump through hoops and still get laid. Its how they get laid. This is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:46 AM
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Exactly bro. You gotta know that you're the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:31 AM
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It applies to many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:30 AM
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Similarly you need sex to have post nut clarity to see the hoops aren’t worth it but you have to jump through the hoops to get sex to have post nut clarity. There are other ways to get post nut clarity... So are you just going to give up on sex or pay for it since you don’t think jumping through the hoops is worth it? Like the first sentence of the post says, men dont actually have to jump through hoops to get sex. Also, every man basically pays for it, either directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:07 AM
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Who are you to decide that for other people? I'm the guy who decides it for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:27 AM
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That doesn't mean they are. It just means those men are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:10 AM
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Why does your opinion have any relevance to anyone else. I don't know. But I know if it had no relevance you wouldn't even validate it by commenting on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:09 AM
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Or some guys think those hoops are worth getting sex anyways. But they arent, thats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:58 AM
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What point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:55 AM
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This really comes off as very much whining, blaming all women for everything, How is the post blaming women for anything? feeling as though you have no worth other than an ATM? Many women do use men as an atm. It has nothing to do with me personally because I don't allow women to use me that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:54 AM
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Thats why the first sentence of the post says "obviously men dont have to jump through hoops".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:37 AM
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every relationship of every type has some hoops. So then you know what those hoops are, so why ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:37 AM
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It's not disrespectful when I pay my doctor to provide a service he's more qualified than me to provide. I guess it all depends on if you want an actual relationship or a business transaction where payment is a major part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:16 PM
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So don't say it'll be easy to find a relationship I didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:00 AM
1

Which is why only idiots get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:24 AM
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The reality is that many women unfortunately do have an extractive mentality when it comes to relationships with men. Denial doesn't change reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:23 AM
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If there is payment required, she's a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:40 AM
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I mean, if the guy gets sex, and she gets money, it's still a win-win. Yeah, i guess prostitution is a win-win. But we still need to point out the issues with a man who would choose to date a prostitute, especially if its a thing many men are doing and they end up having children with those prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:03 PM
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They dont have to randomly tell me. Any man who has the slightest experience dating women knows its better to just pay, which is why its usually men who pay on dates, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:18 PM
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Some of us really do NOT want partners paying for us. Yes, the minority are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:24 PM
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I don't know a single man or woman who confirm that if a man doesn't pay on a first date they won't be interested. Why would they just randomly tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:20 PM
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It really isn’t. You dont date women as a man, so you wouldn't know. If you’re attracting users then clearly something about you is attractive to users. "If you're attracting abusers clearly something about you is attractive to abusers". Thats basically what you're saying and its ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:19 PM

Are you not capable of being a good companion? Are you not capable of reading whats actually written?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:18 PM
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Women do not think this is true And yet its the experience of many men with women. For instance, most men know that if you want a woman to remain interested in you on the first date, you have to pay. Not paying decreases her interest. This applies to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:17 PM
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Calling the truth about something a sad view doesnt change the fact that its true. The fact that you feel the need to comment and label the view 'sad' or 'desperate' (which doesn't even make sense) tells me it hits close to home. Otherwise, you'd just ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:07 PM
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Okay, thats a great addition to the debate. Thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:00 PM
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Why bother asking. Just tell yourself i'm whatever gender satisfies you. Anyway, did you have a point or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:57 AM
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It doesnt matter. My gender won't change how true what's being said is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:51 AM
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Yeah man stop caring then the population would decline even further I see no problem with that. There are too many idiots on earth. If more men care less than going to have a hard time finding relationships occurring. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:19 AM
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Like you for you”. Not how it works buddy For men with self respect it is. Why would any sane man be with a woman who doesnt like him for who he is? That's sad and pathetic. Its better to be single. Its like millionaire choosing to be with a bum who uses him for money. That would be a sign of insanity and a lack of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:14 AM
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men are basically these dumbasses Many are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:08 AM
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guy paying for a date ultimately isn’t that big a deal only when we are broke then it’s tough At a certain point , when you have self-respect, you start wanting to be with women who like you for you, not because you pay for stuff. Even a millionaire with self respect wouldn't want to date a woman where he has to pay otherwise she won't like him. Being broke has nothing to do with it. Saying it does just makes you feel good for allowing yourself to be used by women who couldn’t give a shit about …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:05 AM
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Detatch yourself from the desire. Then go out and fuck bitches. This sounds like something the Buddha would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:48 PM
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As long as men cannot give birth, they will be in the position of catering to women I think you should reread the quote at the end of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:46 PM
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And thus, if they don't get laid they hate their apartment, clothes, and job and environment. This is so true. If most men can't get laid, they will end up hating life. Ironically, Buddhist monks who choose to be celibate are more at peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:44 PM
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Yes, and its still a trap. I didnt say it was a trap created by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:39 AM
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Thanks, that's really good advice that I hadn't thought of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:41 AM
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If you feel sex is a trap, there's anger/upset at something. Or maybe sex is just a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:32 AM
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It's all a trap to keep you upset and angry at women. I'm neither upset nor angry at women. This is another trap. No, its the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:19 AM
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No, I'm posting because what I'm saying is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:11 AM
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Thinking that sex is a trap is a trap How is it a trap? Putting up with nonsense aka not having boundaries is a trap. Many men have boundaries and still put up with nonsense because it's almost inevitable when dealing with the average woman. Quoting dear old dead Esther is a trap. In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:54 AM
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This literally sounds like something that someone who can’t get laid would say. Okay, thanks for your intelligent addition to the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:32 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:19 AM
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I'm sure there are men that actually enjoy being providers Yes, because sex is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:10 AM
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You gotta start being more creative than just throwing around the word incel when you dont agree with something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:03 AM
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A provider is more of a relationship role than anything. Do you actually think a man would provide for another adult who happens to be a woman if sex was removed from the picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:01 AM
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Without this "programming" humans would be extinct... I don't see a problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:43 AM
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have both feminine and masculine qualities about me but I don't care about labels. So the post isnt about you then. It says "many women" not all women. It doesn't even say most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:42 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:28 AM
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If no one will what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:44 PM
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Yes, in your case you especially don’t want to approach women or pay for dates Yes, because im the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:54 PM
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it’s what men themselves say and also do But it's not what im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:40 PM
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that all translates into serving when it’s applied to women from men’s perspective In your warped view, yes. But not in mine. What's happening here is you're projecting based on your own issues with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:17 AM
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I didn't bring it up as evidence. I mentioned it because its true. Masculinity is male energy and femininity is female energy. This is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:02 AM
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You're the one who brought up the soul, not me. Also, the soul has nothing to do with religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:41 AM
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you might as well be debating the existence of a soul. If someone doesnt know they have a soul, this tells me they dont have one and therefore debating them about it is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:35 AM
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You are confused. Being kind, open, caring and so on isnt being submissive. This is you projecting your own garbage onto what I said. I didnt even use the word serving. You did. Also, receptivity has nothing to do with submissiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:05 AM
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it’s a social construct. No, masculinity and femininity arent social constructs, they are energies that actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:03 AM
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Quote where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:02 AM
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So a woman who is "providing or fostering an environment that is conducive to growth and development" isnt being caring? Very interesting. How can she do that without caring?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:02 AM
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Unnecessarily condescending. Just say you disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:44 AM
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Nurture is providing or fostering an environment that is conducive to growth and development That is being caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:44 AM
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Even the truth won't convince everyone, but just think about it logically. Things have to have an objective meaning otherwise anyone could just say its whatever they want and they would lose meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:31 AM
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Nurturing is being kind and caring 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:24 AM
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It encourages men to be competitive and put each other down. Just because many men think that's what it is doesn't mean that's what it actually is. Just like how some women think being feminine means being passive, that doesn't mean that's what it actually is. Femininity from a men’s perspective We're talking about what it actually objectively is, not what it is from men's perspective. Femininity and masculinity mean something different to everyone. Yes, but they also have an objective meaning i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:22 AM
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Just say you dont know what femininity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:05 AM
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What a pathetic definition that doesn’t even make sense.. Your inability to understand something doesn't mean it objectively doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:04 AM
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we just reserve it for the most attractive men. This is just not true. Femininity isnt something you turn on and off. You either are truly feminine or you aren't. Its like a man saying "we reserve masculinity for attractuve women". Its just pure nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:03 AM
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Femininity is an energy not a gender. And all humans have both masculine and feminine energy which is why anyone can exhibit these behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:57 AM
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Apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:10 AM
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Because im authentic and also have balanced the masculine and feminine energy within myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:48 AM
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You're telling women they dont know what femininity is Many of them dont 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:46 AM
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This is a well thought out comment but it still doesnt change the reality that many women dont really know what femininity is and its just perfomative for them. Your comment is more about masculinity than femininity while the post is about femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:42 AM
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Lots of women don't. The majority do. Its pointless to pretend otherwise. Just like there's many ways to apply makeup. That doesnt make it authentic. And you're not the authority on femininity or authenticity. I kinda am though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:39 AM
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I don't wear makeup. Well, thats new. You must be very unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:22 AM

I know what authenticity actually is Apparently not. Saying wearing makeup is authentic is just nonsense. But i know youre essentially addicted to it so you have to rationalise that to yourself because you also want to believe you're authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:16 AM
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Not if you know what authenticity actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:11 AM
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Makeup comes in all kinds of applications. It's still not authentic. It can't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:46 AM
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Someone can wear makeup because that them is being authentic and open and receptive to other make up enthusiasts By its very nature, makeup is not authentic. Your real face without cosmetics is authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:07 AM
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So, what is your definition of femininity, from a man's perspective? Its receptivity, openness, kindness, being generous and giving and being authentic and caring. Some of that is shown in makeup, No, inner qualities cannot be shown in makeup. Its basically a mask. receiving the gift of someone else paying for a date, etc. This has nothing to do with femininity either. Anyone can "receive the gift of someone else paying for a date", even women who are toxic and not truly feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:51 PM
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Except i didnt tell them what femininity is... Even if i did, being masculine doesn't mean you can't understand what femininity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:11 PM
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This isn't actually countering what I said. It's just reactive. You just read the title and chose to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:07 PM
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It’s pretty obvious that your intent was to be inflammatory. Again, the words that triggered you were written by a woman, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:37 AM
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.. If you are just going to agree with it then why does it matter a woman said it? Your initial response made it seem like I'm the one who said it. What kind of morons do you think send death threats to people over a book that has 0 reputable or scientific backing? Well, it actually happened so 🤷‍♂️ Most normal women probably just ignored how provocative her book was Most women who read it or even quotes from it are very triggered by it. because who in their right mind would stunt their own inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:14 AM
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She was right though, which why is why she got death threats from women after writing the book the quote is from. This was in the 70s so they had to put in a lot of effort too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:21 AM
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The majority of couples do have problems. They are inevitable, especially since most relationships are transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:04 AM
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No one is being scolded. Are you a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:02 AM
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The part you quoted was written by a woman, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:02 AM
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That's how many are. I simply view them how they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:56 AM
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You can’t just sit in your living room and expect it to come to you. No shit. The point is that it happens naturally without force.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:25 AM
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Or just be an adult who isn't parasitic and pay for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:18 AM
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What are expecting here? Nothing. Keep scrolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:13 AM
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You're supposed to ignore the post and keep scrolling if you dont want to engage. Its pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:08 AM
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Okay, if you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:07 AM
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Okay 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:07 AM
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Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I thought this was a debate sub. My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:01 AM
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Alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:00 AM
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Thats not actually addressing what is being said. It's like if I were to say what you're saying screams feminist. Who cares? Just address the point being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:00 AM
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think what you’re saying you want here and what you’re saying you want in your original post are opposing ideas. So no wonder. My original post isnt about what I want. Did you even read it? You want traditional gender roles, no? No, try reading my post and my responses to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:54 AM
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They literally just said they know some things about it. Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:52 AM
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as a woman) I don’t get it. I know. You'll only get it if you date women as a man. Men like you often want No, i dont want what you think i want at all. I want a woman with intelligence, agency, can think for herself and doesnt date based on money, material things and having her things paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:46 AM
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Maybe this applies to the person i asked the question since they didnt answer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:44 AM
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Unfortunately it seems you dont have the capacity to see that those behaviours are connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:35 AM
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That's another action altogether. It really isnt. Pathetic simps who open doors for women also pay for dates for the same reason they open doors for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:28 AM
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Dating women as a woman isnt the same as dating women as a man. 2 women going on a date is essentially 2 people with a parasitic mentality going on a date, whereas a man going on a date with a woman means one person is going on a date with a person who has a parasitic mentality. Its not the same dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:27 AM
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It really isnt. Its sad that women are still at this mental level. Even men who hate women still pay on dates because they know women get upset when you dont pay. Almost every man knows the best thing to do is to pay. Its like seeing a prostitute and not paying. Its obviously not going to result in what the man wants to happen. Do you think when Andrew Tate was recruiting women to work for him he wouldn't pay for dates he recruited them on? Its sad that adult women actually think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:23 AM
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Men opening doors for you doesn't exist in a vacuum. It comes with other things they do for you, like paying for dates and "providing," all of which benefit you. Even on the surface its dumb to ask how someone opening a door for you benefits you because they're literally doing something for you. How can it not benefit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:50 AM
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Your personal feelings dont change how women actually are in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:38 AM
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Well….untrue. So do you study human behaviour? If so, what have you learnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:37 AM
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Women can and do earn their own money now. And yet they still choose to base a part of their relationships on money and resources. Thats pretty sad and embarrassing for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:31 AM
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Someone who had studied human behaviour would not make that statement. You don't know that because you don't study human behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:30 AM
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Nah, i don't play like that. Because you know the answer will reveal the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:30 AM
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No it isn't. It unfortunately is. Women really arent that different globally, especially when it comes to things like money and material things. This is why pick-up artists exist and are actually successful, regardless of what you think of them. Generally speaking, money, status and resources are what women are mainly about when it comes to dating. This is well known.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:29 AM
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and just expect it to fall into your lap. Genuine love does almost just fall in your lap. You don't have to try or put in alot of effort for it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:27 AM
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It is women in general. Where you live is one of the few exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:26 AM
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How would you know what most relationships are like? Because human behaviour isn't that different and I've worked as a counsellor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:25 AM
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Well, yeah it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:24 AM
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wait, no. fist explain how opening doors is beneficial for me. Tell me how it isnt beneficial and why men would do it if it isnt and then tell me why you dont open doors for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:23 AM
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Not from my position Maybe your relationship is the exception thats all sunshine and rainbows with no fights and drama but most relationships arent like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:22 AM
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If a man paying for your date isnt beneficial to you, why do you let him do it? Why not insist on paying for him since its of no benefit or loss to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:21 AM
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The standard in my country is to go Dutch Then it comes down to where you live rather than what women beyond where you live are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:20 AM
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Its not really "letting" him. If you're like most women, if he didn't pay, you would stop liking him. It's like saying that men opening doors is a benefit. It is, thats why they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:09 AM
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We all pay for ourselves on dates. All you actually know is you pay for yourself (if youre actually being honest), but you dont really know what other women do. Read the comment of the woman who responded to your comment for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:07 AM
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I know that even women with money expect men to pay. So you dont need me to answer for the statement I made. But it's hardly a material benefit. Its a monetary benefit. And its actually kind of sad and embrassing for women like this considering how historically women have had no choice but to be financially dependent on men, and now they choose to be dependent, even though they have the money to be equals and just have a genuine connection that doesn't consider payment in whatever form.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:05 AM
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Like I said, you dont date women so your perspective on this isnt complete.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:02 AM
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Like what?? This is a question to ask other women. Pretending like many women dont look for material and monetary benefits from being involved with men is disingenuous and no serious person actually believes it. stop dating poor ass women?? You dont get it, which is understandable since I assume you dont date women. Even women with money expect men to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:55 AM
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Being in love and dating, marrying and making love is fantastic fun. Sure, but its overrated. And its not all sunshine and rainbows either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:53 AM
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You can't say dating is fun and overrated. Something can both be fun and overrated. Like video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:35 AM
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You profess to be worried No, i don't. so your advice is impractical and irrelevant To you as a woman, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:33 PM
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Like I said, you can keep being a cog in wheel. Don't worry about what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:25 PM
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The point remains that they should stop being cogs in a wheel. You as a woman can continue being a cog in a wheel since it seems to appeal to you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:20 PM
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If you’re not working, you’re either homeless or living off of people who do work. What are you talking about? Have you never heard of self employment and creating your own business? So that’s what men should do? Yes. They should stop being cogs in a wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:11 PM
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If I don't work as a babysitter, someone else will. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:26 PM
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Bad: doesn't care about women yet goes on dates. What does this say about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:25 PM
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So what should men be if not cogs? They should be themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:16 PM
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My approach is to give them my number. If they text me then that's great. If not then it doesn't even matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:44 PM
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Well based on the way you definite it, no one is actually good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:42 PM
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I agree that not caring what women think is great. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. Nobody who is a doormat can just simply change their outlook and develop a self identity to get there. This is like saying "people with money problems need to just become millionaires then it will be easier". That is the end goal, not the process, its not advice. Then what would you say to advice them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:40 PM
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They dont have agency either. They're just NPCs like all other men. They've just found a different approach that appeals to female NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:06 PM
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Who does "society" tell men they are? It tells them they're just another cog in the wheel who has to spend their time trying to gain women's approval when they aren't gaining the approval of the boss. Who are they really? This is for them to find out. How do you know? Because I know myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:05 PM
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Don't even reach out; let them put in the effort. Exactly. This is what men need to start doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:03 PM
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It sounds like you agree with the post but you just didnt wanna say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:52 PM
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So you double down and say that having agency means you're bad? Wait, so in this instance, are you saying the so called "bad boys" have agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:51 PM
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What is the basis for your view that "society" is "never" correct about who people are? Do you think people who dont know you can ever be correct about who you are? If there are some people "going against the conditioning", then it can be done, Yes, that doesn't mean most people do it. Most people can't overcome drug addiction. Does that mean everyone does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:49 PM
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Just because the blind can't see a picture, that doesnt mean it hasn't been painted accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:31 PM
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Who does "society" tell men they are? Who are they really? From your perspective, who do think it tells men they are? the prevailing view was that black people were inferior; this was flat-out incorrect. Exactly. The point im making is what society tells you you are is never who you truly are. Most black people in the south were told that they were slaves This is part of what the social conditioning im talking about is about. But even so, there were committed abolitionists like Robert Carter who…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:29 PM
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Exactly. Society telling you who you are doesn't mean that its actually who you are. What do you think 18th century America was telling black people they were? Was it true?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:37 AM
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The terms "bad boys" and "nice guys" aren't literal. They're pointing to specific types of behaviour. It doesnt mean that people who fall under the "bad boy," banner are actually moraly bad human beings and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:34 AM
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What do you think it is? Its what tells you who you are and what you should think and believe. Its why women in Afghanistan believe in Islam even though its used to oppress them and limit their rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:31 AM
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Yeah, but that doesn't mean the desire to have sex with that person should dictate your ability to reason and use logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:07 AM
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If a woman you like said she loved you for yourself, would you ask her this question or would you just know what she meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:06 AM
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In your understanding, what do you think social conditioning is? Do you think its real or its a made up thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:05 AM
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This is why women like men with an opinion and character more that spineless guy who try to guess what to say to please them. The doesn't mean first are "bad" and second are "good". It means first have some personality, and the second is just spineless. You literally just described the difference between so-called "bad boys" and "nice guys". You actually agree with my post but you just didn't want to say it for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:04 AM
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You can't just put physical attraction to a woman aside, it's literally required for sustaining an erection, which is required for ejaculation, which is required for conception, which is required for the production of humanity itself. You can when you're not having sex with her, which is what the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:00 AM
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So do you think its worth not being yourself just so some girl will like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:59 AM
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Nice guys” and “bad boys” (are you 12 years old?) Those terms were in quotation marks for a reason 🤦 This comment makes me feel like the rest of your comment isnt even worth responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:57 AM
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For the same reason that most people dont know who they are; social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:43 AM
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I literally make twice as much as my partner. This doesn't change the point being made. Its like saying you pay for men on dates and then acting like it's the norm for women to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:34 AM
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Men who like women don't measure romance in only money. This is amazing coming from someone belonging to a group of people who base their feelings towards men on money and whether or not men spend it on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:40 AM
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I didn't downvote you...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:02 AM
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