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| 2 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?What if your kids refuse to go kayaking with you? Maybe if your husband/wife doesnt' want to go kayaking you can divorce them (have you ever actually heard of anyone divorcing over that though? lol) There may be some interests that overlap, but 100% of them never will. It will always require atleast some sacrifice of your individuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?You may not lose all of your individuality, but to say you wouldn't have to spend less time on your passions and interests is a bit strange. If you're single you get to spend 100% of your spare time on your interests and passions, but when you're in a relationship you have to spend time on your husband/wife, and if you have kids you'll have to spend time on your kids, which can often leave a very small percentage of time left for your own hobbies and interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 08:05 PM |
| 5 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?What do you say to people who are happy alone if that's the case? Do you think they're just lying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 07:10 PM |
| 0 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?People may not value them socially, but they do value them in their service to medical science. And people's imperfect perceptions don't determine objective value - if such a thing even exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 05:56 PM |
| 0 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?How many lives are saved by two people dating? Dating success has nothing to do with the value of your existence. People may not actually want to be around the guy who cured cancer if he was ugly, uncharismatic, and socially anxious - traits that influence dating success but wouldn't stop them from discovering a cure to cancer. For example, Isaac Newton died a virgin whereas Tom Bundy had women obsessed with him. Did Tom Bundy live a more valuable life than Isaac Newton? Dating itself is meaning… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?Why would the value of a person be determined by dating? If someone discovered the cure to cancer, would you suddenly think their life and achievements were worthless just because you discovered they were a virgin? What value does dating even bring to the world? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?I agree that both are good, but you already said that hanging out with friends is better. So why wouldn't you feel a bit disappointed if your friends stopped hanging out with you, and you had to settle for the lesser option of spending time by yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 04:25 PM |
| 2 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?I don't really see the difference between you feeling sad from a divorce and the other men you describe feeling sad about the same thing, other than maybe the intensity of the sadness being different. It's not like if you got a divorce you wouldn't seek out another relationship, just like other men will try to seek out another relationship. Except their sadness is greater so they may seek our another relationship with a bit more intensity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 04:13 PM |
| 5 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?I see, they're both good, but one is better than the other. Wouldn't it make sense then for someone to feel at the very least a bit disappointed if they had no friends and knew what they were missing out on? If something brings happiness then surely losing that thing - or not having it - should also bring an equivalent amount of sadness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?Why wouldn't you reject them if you're already happy? Especially if you don't have your hopes up, it's kinda pointless to even go on a date when there's better things you could be doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 04:05 PM |
| 6 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?It's confusing because you're presenting both scenarios as if they're of equal in value, but you're also choosing one over the other which implies both have different value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?Were your past relationships any good? If not, could it be possible that you're denying yourself the possibility of experiencing positive relationships and living an even happier life due the negative bias you've developed from past relationships? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?Why would you seek out a relationship if you're already happy alone? Wouldn't that just mess up the perfect schedule you've set up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?Why not just tell your friend to fuck off and keep playing playstation alone if both scenarios are equal in value? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 03:58 PM |
| 2 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?I wouldn't say it's all or nothing unless you want to interpret it to be. If something brings you any measure of happiness, then taking it away will naturally bring you an equal measure of sadness. How much you rely on it will vary how much happiness/sadness you'll experience, which is why it's not all or nothing. But the idea that you can be comepletely unfazed by loneliness whilst also experiencing happiness from belonging is a bit nonsensical in my opinion. Are you telling me that your marria… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?If you can be happy alone, why would you bother with a romantic relationship? Is it really an added bonus? If you already live a happy life alone, relationships aren't an addition, they're a replacement, especially if you end up getting married and having children - that becomes your new life, not your hobbies or interests or passions which will at the very least be suppressed if not comepletely thrown to the wayside. When so much time and energy in your life is required to be sacrificed for mai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?That's why it's hard I love a life of permanent loneliness. I'm o a nice out and what do I ttMmmmm??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 05:29 AM |
| 3 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?Yes I'm one of them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 04:42 AM |
| 4 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?Very true, it's strange how there's this bell curve where men tend to occupy the negative and positive extremes of everything. Do you think it's just because men take more risks? Is the male life strategy basically gambling - you either win big or lose everything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?50.4% of the world's population are men, which seems quite small on a global scale, but maybe in smaller groups that difference has a larger impact? Interesting to consider, especially because different countries will have different ratios. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 02:07 PM |
| 3 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?True, men are incredibly afraid of women. When I go on nights out, my friends will literally take drugs like MDMA and cocaine, and obviously get shitfaced drunk, just to get the courage and motivation to approach women a few times. It seems to work for them, but it seems like a lot of effort just to talk to a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 02:04 PM |
| 3 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?I agree, I have a group of male friends and if I don't organize something nothing happens. I've literally experimented with not organizing something on a weekend, waitng to see if someone else takes the initiative. And nothing happens. Maybe that's just me and they don't like me, but I feel like some of them don't have any back up friends they go with either. If I don't invite them out they literally stay at home and do nothing. Which I think is part of why I think men thirst for girlfriends mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 02:01 PM |
| 3 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?That actually makes a lot of sense. There are significantly more autistic men than women, and even the women who are autistic tend to be better at masking anyway. Do you think this is natural? Or just the way men and women are raised? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 01:55 PM |
| 7 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?Why do you think men struggle to form friendships more than women? Do you think it's inherent, or possibly our culture raising men to act or think in a certain way? I'm leaning more towards the latter because I've always thought as a man that it felt like I was being feminine if I expressed too much affection towards people, so I'd always keep people at an arms length to avoid being called gay or feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 01:47 PM |
| 3 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?I agree, loneliness isn't just about quantity, but also quality. But quality doesn't matter when you have nothing, however. Albeit it is possible for a relationship to have negative quality, making it preferable to be alone sometimes. Considering that, do you think both genders struggle with the quantity and quality of their relationships as eachother? Or do you think one suffers more than the other (on average)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 01:44 PM |
| 7 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?How is it in bad faith? I personally agree with you. All my friends are single except from one guy who's dating multiple women at once and constantly gets hit on by women whenever we go on nights out. Whereas at work, all of my female co-workers have boyfriends. Which is why I think there are more lonely men than women. But maybe my experience isn't the norm, and I know people disagree with me, so I want to hear their reasoning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 01:40 PM |
| 4 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?Why do you think there are more single men than women? And how is it possible? If there are lots of single men, wouldn't there be lots of single women? Unless lots of women are dating the same man? I've seen some surveys that show a greater number of single men aswell, but from what I've seen things tend to balance out and even reverse when you look at people of older ages, which seems to imply there's a significant number of women dating men who are older than them. There's also the issue of di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 01:36 PM |
| 3 | Is “That’s just the way it is” a more valid answer than we’d like it to be?I think the issue that incels take issue with isn't the randomness of life, the randomness of life fits their worldview, it's the way that people treat life like a video game which therefore makes their own failures their own fault. Incels refuse to take personal responsibility and are obsessed with with proving that outcomes in life are based on factors outside of personal control which is why they're so obsessed with genetics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Are most women demisexual?Demisexuality isn't about whether you want a one night stand or not. It's about whether you feel sexual feelings or not towards someone you don't know. You can have sexual feelings towards someone without wanting a one night stand with them. For instance, demisexual people tend to feel confused when they see people gushing over a picture of a pretty woman or handsome man that they don't even know. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's the norm for men to feel aroused by a picture of a naked woman th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Are most women demisexual?I'm just discussing trends, I'm not trying to deny the unique experiences of individuals, they're two separate things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 12:39 AM |
| 7 | Are most women demisexual?At least amongst men, I think it's the norm to just be able to look at a picture of a woman and feel aroused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Are most women demisexual?So you think the majority of people, men and women, are only able to develop sexual feelings for people they've developed a close emotional connection with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Are most women demisexual?To be clear, demisexuality isn't just about whether or not you want to have a one night stand, it's about whether you feel sexual feelings towards them at all. It's more about your internal experience rather than how you behave. For instance, my understanding is that a demisexual person may feel confused when a bunch of people are gushing over a picture of a pretty or handsome person that they don't even know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Do wommen even truly like men at all?Most women are demisexual | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 08:36 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythIt makes me feel like a piece of shit aswell, but I just wanted to say it because whilst there are social issues at play that's making people feel lonelier, that's a whole seperate issue compared to people like me who don't just feel lonely but are actually alone. The significant majority of people may feel more disconnected from their friends and the people they're dating compared to previous generations due to the over reliance on texting, social media, and dating apps, but they still have fri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 05:21 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythThere's a massive difference. Incels don't have low quality relationships, they have no relationships. Their issue is quantity. Whereas victims of the loneliness epidemic have relationships, they're just low quality. Their issue is quality. The solution to the loneliness epidemic is vastly different depending on whether you view it as an issue of quantity or quality. If the issue is quantity, then we need to create more avenues to meet people. But we already have plenty (meetup apps, social medi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 10:57 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythOne issue with this is that you're creating this binary dichotomoy between online friends and IRL friends. I think the more common thing is that their friends are a mixture of online and IRL. They'll text in group chats during the week, and then meet up IRL on the weekends, whereas in the past people may have met up IRL every day. Or people may have friends who are abroad who they'll text regularly, and then meet up with them IRL once a year or while on vacation to the other person's respective … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 10:45 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythI'm a hard determinist, I don't think people cause their own thoughts and actions. People are just clumps of atoms that collide against eachother in patterns and sequences beyond our control. But I think it's in everyone's best interests to pretend that we're responsible for our actions. If someone t-bones my car, I'm not gonna say, "oh well, they're just a bunch of atoms, it's not their fault," no, society would collapse if we didn't assign responsibility to people for their actions, even if at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 10:41 PM |
| 0 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythThe way I've heard the loneliness epidemic talked about it seems like people think there's an epidemic of friendless, dateless, and sexless men who are victims of a changing society. But that isn't true. People are befriending eachother, dating eachother, and having sex with eachother just as much as they did in the past, just in different and lower quality ways (through the internet and social media). The way people do this in the modern era results in people being less close to eachother, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 10:35 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythI didn't. I said it was to avoid personal responsibility | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 05:32 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythNo, I'm going by your own data. You said people have less close friends. That doesn't nessecarily mean people have less friends, it could mean people are less close to their friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 04:29 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythA insane person can't accurately assess their own sanity, because their self-assessment is being filtered through their own insanity. In the same way, a shitty person can't accurately assess their own shittiness because their self-assesssment is being filtered through their own shitty personality and worldview. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 04:27 PM |
| 2 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythMy point is that dating is easy and extremely common for all types of people from all walks of life. The idea that there's a systemic force causing people to be lonely and that you need to use all of these crazy bluepill, redpill, blackpill tactics and read books about dating to overcome those mythical systemic barriers is bizarre to me. So if there is no widespread systemic force causing it, then what is? It's not mental illness because lots of mentally ill people get into relationships. It's n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 04:08 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythWhen did I say they weren't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 04:01 PM |
| 0 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythIf it's a conspiracy then who's spreading the myth ? Who's benefiting from this myth ? The surgeon general ? Scientists ? Lonely people spread it to avoid personal responsibility and self hatred. Do you find it okay that everybody's responsible for their own feelings of affiliation all the time ? No, I don't think a lot of things are ok, but that doesn't make them less true. You're right actually, and I get that it's a hopeful position you're holding It's not hopeful at all. Being the one to bla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 03:48 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythWhy would general loneliness be on the rise but romantic loneliness wouldn't be? I think both are easy, both are a result of individual failings, and people aren't entitled to either platonic or romantic relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 03:42 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythI'm also not just talking about dateless and sexless people. Tthe studies only show that the number of close friends people have decreased. That's more reflective of the quality of people's relationships declining, whether they are platonic or romantic. I don't see any evidence that the overall quantity of relationships are declining. People are still dating and socializing just as much as they used to, albeit in different and lower quality ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 03:40 PM |
| 0 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythYes, more people say they're lonely, but they're not actually alone. Relationship quality has declined, but quantity has stayed the same. All these people who are dateless and sexless above the age of 20 aren't victims of this fall of relationship quality, their issues are entirely different and entirely individual and personal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 02:25 PM |
| -2 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythThe stastics rely on self-reported data. Yes, more people say they're lonely, but they're not actually alone. Relationship quality has declined, but quantity has stayed the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 02:19 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythKinda off topic, but I'm curious why you think romantic relationships have any value at all if they don't even make people feel less lonely? Why don't people just only have friends then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 02:09 PM |
| 0 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythI'm not sure if I get what you're saying here. I don't think it's true that there's an elite group of men hoarding all the women if that's what you're saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 02:08 PM |
| -5 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythThe first link you showed says people have less "close" friends. They may have the same number of friends, but define less as "close", because of in-person interaction being replaced by online intereaction. All of these studies you're showing are based on self-report so you have to take them with a grain of salt and the subjectivity with which people define things such as "close" friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 02:05 PM |
| -1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythThere's no such thing, atleast not common enough to have a significant systemic effect. Maybe if we lived back in the Mongol Empire where the elites had giant harems of concubines then maybe lonely men could blame the elites for their loneliness. But in this day and age it's incredibly rare for people to have more than 1 or 2 unique sex partners a year, let alone having a whole harem with women that doesn't have sex with anyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 02:00 PM |
| -4 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythI don't think that group is significant at all, they're an extreme minority. And those people are lonely out of their own doing, they're problem isn't a societal or systemic issue. It's their own fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 01:49 PM |
| -4 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythIt is a substitue, but I agree that they're not equivalent in terms of quality. Which is why I said a more accurate title would be that "The aloneness epidemic is a myth". People feel more lonely, but actually still have the same number of friends and dates as they did in the past, so aren't actually alone. The people who try to blame their aloneness on societal trends are just coping, whereas the people who are blaming their subjective experience of loneliness on societal trends may have some m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 01:48 PM |
| 0 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythYou don't know your neighbours but you likely know quite a bit about people all across the world. People don't socialize less, they socialize differently. People may have less "close" friendships, but people actually have more "normal" friendships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 01:43 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythUgly and autistic people get into relationships all the time without even trying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 01:39 PM |
| -5 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythOk sure, I'll concede that the title is incorrect. It'd then be more accurate to say that "The aloneness epidemic" is a myth. Relationship quality has declined, but relationship quantity has stayed the same. People who are friendless, dateless, and sexless above the age of 19 are still extreme outliers, and their issues can only be blamed on themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 01:34 PM |
| -1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythI'm not saying that people are replacing all in-person interaction with online interaction. I'm saying that people will have a mixture of onine and in-person interaction with friends. Yes, some people will only interact online, but those are extreme outliers. Which yes, sure, may make people "feel" more subjectively lonely and less connected to their friends. But I still fail to see evidence that there's an epidemic of "actual" aloneness. Men may define less people as "close" friends as before, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 01:30 PM |
| -2 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythThey're different because there are more people hoarding disproportionate amounts of money than there are people hoarding disproportionate amounts of romantic partners. Most people are monogamous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 01:17 PM |
| 1 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythThe concept of third spaces have almost completely collapsed. That's because social media and other online spaces have become the new third spaces. They've been replaced, not erased. Which yes, means that people's in-person social skills may have declined. But... People are socialising less. There's less places to socialise in. People have less friends I don't agree with this. I don't think it's evident that people are socializing less or have less friends than before. People just socialize diff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 01:09 PM |
| -5 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythterminally online Even terminally online people are able to get dates through dating apps, online groups like on discord, and through meeting people on online games. average looking male Average looking and below men get dates all the time without even trying, that's not a dysfunction. On top of that society has been heading in the direction of greater and greater atomisation for a long time. People are socializing differently that they did before, but that doesn't mean people are socializing le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 12:54 PM |
| 3 | The loneliness epidemic is a mythuptick of people having problems with dating Is there really an uptick of people having problems with dating? Or are we just more aware of lonely people than we were in the past? This mostly stems from Zoomers being less social. Are zoomers less social? Or do they just socialize in different ways, e.g. instead of meeting up with friends every single day, they'll text friends every day to then go out on the weekend. That's very different from saying there's a widespread epidemic of permanently si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Women are only “loney” if they choose to beThe majority of people, including obese men and women, are able to date easily and get into relationships easily. Volunteer at a soup kitchen and you'll see homeless men and women in relationships. Go to a mental health support group and you'll see people with all sorts of mental illnesses in relationships. The idea that any group of people, regardless of whether they're a man or woman, whether they're thin or fat, pretty or ugly, has significant widespread issues with dating is false. Lonelines… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 10:57 AM |
| 7 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.When 6ft men can wear shoes with hidden heels, platforms, and thick insoles height inflation is real af | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 11:43 AM |
| 6 | The real truth about women and nice guysWhy are you making up all of this bloated and convoluted theory on female attraction? Women aren't an entirely different alien species. Women are attracted to men in a similar way to how men are attracted to women: looks and personality. Women want to hook up with men who look good, and want to commit to men who also have a pleasant personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 05:30 PM |
| 6 | Normies obsession with "insecurity" is bizarreIt's the classic bully technique. Instead of judging yourself for inflicting unnessecary suffering on other people, you judge your victims for their lack of pain endurance. You bully someone and then when they try to stand up for themselves you just say, 'why are you so senstive? why are you so mad? are you too thin skinned to handle a bit of banter? too weak to handle a bit of rough play?' Even though their banter involves meticulously jabbing at your deepest insecurities and rough play involve… | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/11/23 12:11 PM |
| 3 | The real blackpill is that sex is the biological mechanism through which ALL suffering on this earth stems from.What's the positive equivalent to the holocaust? | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 01:37 PM |
| 6 | I genuinely don't understand when I see women who post on reddit saying they are lonely?Not true at all. I have dated two obese women in the past. One ghosted me after two dates, and the other dumped me after a month of dating. I'm not fat myself - I'm 6ft, 75kg, and 12% bodyfat. Both of those women were drowned in male attention. The first girl I dated kept telling me stories of all the weird men who'd keep constantly approaching her at bars all the time - she was annoyed with how much attention she got. For the second girl, any time I went to a nightclub with her, men would keep … | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 09:56 AM |
| 4 | Women don't love menUgly men may be invisible in women's eyes, but ugly men are parasites in men's eyes. Normie and chad men actively derive pleasure from watching and inflicting suffering on genetically inferior men. It's basic intra-sexual selection. Realistically, ugly men should atleast be able to find solace in the company of other men. But that's not possible. The greatest enemy to ugly men is other men. If they don't kill you, they'll certainly make you wish you were dead with how they make you suffer. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 09:43 AM |
| 3 | One of the goals of spreading the blackpill should be to drop the stigma around suicide and make assisted sui services more easily accessible and available to depressed lonersGenetic quality is relative. If all incels committed suicide now, standards would increase and the current normies would become the new incels, and the current chads would become the new normies. Short men, low IQ men, and autistic men are already more likely to kill themselves than the average person. You don't need to make it more accessible, gun to the head is already an easy and quick way to go out. If I was American I would've ended it ages ago. Which is partly why people are getting taller… | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Why are people so mean to guys like us?Because it's interesting. People actually enjoy cruelty. The only thing stopping people from indulging in that pleasure on a regular basis is empathy. But once you admit that you're a sexless man, they'll use the just world fallacy to assume you have an immoral character, thus causing all empathy they may have for you to vanish, allowing them to take as much pleasure as possible into bullying you and making you suffer. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 06:02 PM |
| 2 | Reminder that this is what is considered a comically ugly man nowadays.Crazy, because he literally looks like an average man. And women are the ones who are victims of unrealistic beauty standards? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 05:58 PM |
| 3 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingNo. Leave women alone, they don't want to be approached by ugly men. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 05:56 PM |
| 1 | You can find out if you are attractive when working with strangers on a daily basis.Haha thanks I got perma banned from there tho lol | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 01:10 PM |
| 2 | You can find out if you are attractive when working with strangers on a daily basis.You can tell in all aspects of life. Lookism effects you everywhere. Even if people can't see you, the way you've been treated in the past, ever since you were child, will effect the way you act now. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Women are only likable when they’re oppressedYeah, the blackpill used to just be about lookism, heightism, and racial biases in dating, but it seems tons of genuine misogynists from 4chan have begun brigading this sub in the last few weeks. It won't be long before reddit admin bans this sub if posts like this keep being allowed to be posted. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 08:57 PM |
| 0 | Women are only likable when they’re oppressedMods need to ban you from this sub, your posts feel like a bluepillers alt account trying to make our sub look bad | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 02:16 PM |
| 11 | I fucking swear dating as a woman is super easy modeThe only ones I've met who've "struggled" were women who refused to use dating apps, never went to a social environment like a hobby group or bar or nightclub, did college/uni online, and were unemployed or worked from home. Femcels are women who genuinely put no effort into dating. Male Incels can be like that but most I know genuinely put tons of effort in. I have a friend whos in his late 20s, can bench 200kg, yet still slim, has his own place, own car, goes clubbing every weekend, 5 ft 9 but… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 12:45 PM |
| 1 | W*men want cringeBut why do s it's get stuff | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 06:18 AM |
| 37 | Don't know what to say on this 👀👀👀That's the end goal of all bluepill advice. Yes you can convince a woman to settle for you, but you can in no way call their attraction to eachother mutual | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 01:48 PM |
| 3 | No Interest In Women AnymoreThe main argument against the blackpill I've seen is, "just go to walmart and see all the ugly men with beautiful girlfriends." But I don't think anyone is denying ugly men can get beautiful girlfriends. What we're saying is that ugly men have to compensate for their ugliness by doing things that attractive men don't - things that simply aren't worth it. And most men are ugly in women's eyes. OkCupid statistics show that 80% of men are below average. Yes, those same statistics show that women ar… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 01:30 PM |
| 12 | No Interest In Women AnymoreThe majority of people on this sub and in real life, including myself, could get into betabux relationships if we wanted. I certainly have in the past. That's the average relationship of an average men. Every sub7 man is in a betabux relationship. But being a betabux means have to make a joke every 5 seconds, lead all conversations, initiate all forms of intimacy, pay for everything, work all the time whilst still doing the majority of the house work, never show vulnerability, learn to read the … | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 10:34 AM |
| 1 | I’m the type that blackpillers claim would never get laid, but I’ve had casual sex with multiple women that are super hot through dating appsWhy would people who you aren't fucking call you hot? The fact that women who you were fucking called you hot means that you are hot. The fact that these women said the reason they fucked you because you were hot and not because you had a high EQ and volunteered at soup kitchens every day and went to therapy twice a day makes your experience clearly line up with blackpill ideas. An actual counter to the blackpill would be if you were autistic, genuinely ugly, below average in height, and other d… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 04:12 PM |
| 7 | What do you think about this comment on PPD?It's facts, but such a rational mindset makes life boring. How can you justify bullying, judging, hurting and killing people if we don't have free will and total responsibility over our lives? The unfortunate truth is that people actually enjoy cruelty. Whether it's sadism or schadenfreude, It's actually one of the greatest pleasures that a human can experience. The only thing that prevents us from indulging in that pleasure all the time is empathy for others. But by belieivng in free will and w… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:59 PM |
| 1 | What are some of the most blackpilled literature that outlines ugly truths about society, human nature and reality in general?No Longer Human by Osamu Dazai | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 11:39 AM |
| 2 | Why is there so much resistance against the blackpill?People do have a hard time with making sense of their beliefs in free will and self-determination with the existence of systemic issues. They'll come up with copes like soft-determinism, but I feel like people who say that just use that as an excuse to take away blame and responsibility from themselves and others when it benefits them, and force blame and responsibility onto themselves and others when it benefits them. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Why is there so much resistance against the blackpill?Yeah, the dating market is different than the job market in the sense that there is no real way of changing things for the better on a societal scale, except from maybe making looksmaxxing and plastic surgery easier and cheaper. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 05:02 PM |
| 5 | Why is there so much resistance against the blackpill?There are some more extremist blackpill incels on this sub that do say that, but I'd like to believe that most on this sub and most talking about lookism, heightism, etc, in a dating context aren't making that argument. I'm certainly not. My argument is just that men and women are just as trash as eachother. If that makes me a misogynist, then I'm a misandrist aswell. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:57 PM |
| 4 | Why is there so much resistance against the blackpill?That's really the difference between the job market and the dating market, isn't it? In the job market, the employers who have these biases are mostly men. Whereas in the dating market, those who are sought after and get the final say on who they can date tend to be women. And of course, there's nothing more horrifying than implying that women are anything less than pure and beautiful angels. How dare we accuse them of being prone to having the same biases that men are prone to! | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Face > Height (always).All the studies I've seen showed that facial attractiveness was more important that bodily attractiveness for both genders, but the issue with those studies is that they just showed the participants pictures of other people which wouldn't convey height. As a result, I don't really know. Would be cool if someone could find one in which the participants were right there in person with eachother as opposed to just seeing them in a picture. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:24 PM |
| 9 | Why is there so much resistance against the blackpill?It's strange, because I think it's very common for people to look at the job market in a "blackpilled" way. Most people, especially left-wingers, know that lookism, racism/racial biases, heightism, etc, are significant factors that influence employer's perception as to which candidate has the best potential as an employee. Especially racism/racial biases, they love talking about how that effects employment oppurtunities. When it comes to talking about the job market this way it tend to be the ri… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:16 PM |
| 3 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsHeight is important, but facial structure, symmetry, jaw shape, cheekbone placement etc. is the single most important aspect of lookism. Just imagine a short woman with a disfigured face. Would she automatically become a Stacy? | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 10:24 AM |
| 1 | Your dad's dating strategies don't work now. In the modern day, men need to be more physically attractive than ever before.Didn’t you read the methodology? In the methodology it says: "The key independent variable comes from the following question, which the interviewer had to complete after an interview of approximately one hour: ‘On a scale from 0 to 10, how beautiful or physically attractive would you say that the person interviewed is for their age? (0 = not attractive, 10 = very attractive)’." Why would the phrasing of that question exclude the influence of facial attractiveness from physical attraction? "the m… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Your dad's dating strategies don't work now. In the modern day, men need to be more physically attractive than ever before.This study is about physical rather “facial” attraction was a factor. Not sure what you mean by "rather". "Facial" attraction is a part of physical attraction. Most men are where 70ish% , 15-18% unattractive 12-15% attractive and woman where roughly the same. Not true. Womenwere rated as more attractive than men on average: "the mean attractiveness score for the selected sample of males in survey 2975 was 5.77... The mean attractiveness score for women in the survey 2975 was 6.11." Being unattra… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Your dad's dating strategies don't work now. In the modern day, men need to be more physically attractive than ever before.The article wasn't written to verify all 6, only physical attractiveness | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 04:08 PM |
| 3 | Your dad's dating strategies don't work now. In the modern day, men need to be more physically attractive than ever before.The article says in the introduction that it's only set out to verify the physical attractiveness element of hakim's theory of erotic capital with their own separate study. Hakim's theory is a theory not a study | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:30 PM |
| 9 | Your dad's dating strategies don't work now. In the modern day, men need to be more physically attractive than ever before.Exactly, the study was exclusively focused on one aspect of erotic capital: physical attractiveness. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:20 PM |
| 6 | How do you guys believe in the blackpill?Yeah, maybe not designer handbags in most cases, but even young men will buy their girlfriends things,whereas the other way round much more rarely happens. But regardless that's beside the point. My point is that young women will date young men who aren't attractive if they think they have the potential to become a wealthy betabux in the long-term, thus women finding stuff like ambition attractive. In other words, women will date young men who they think could buy them designer handbags in the f… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:02 PM |
| 5 | Your dad's dating strategies don't work now. In the modern day, men need to be more physically attractive than ever before.That's Hakim's theory, not the actual study the article is focused on. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 01:59 PM |
| 6 | Your dad's dating strategies don't work now. In the modern day, men need to be more physically attractive than ever before.That's Hakim's theory. The study itself is exclusively focusing on the physical/sexual attractiveness aspect of erotic capital: The purpose of this article is to verify the influence of one of the key aspects of erotic capital, physical attractiveness, in the marriage market | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 01:52 PM |
| 3 | Your dad's dating strategies don't work now. In the modern day, men need to be more physically attractive than ever before.It says in the introduction that most studies related to physical attractiveness relied on outdated data, and I think the article kinda takes it for granted that you know that they tended to conclude that women don't care about looks as much as men do - for instance - Ayuso Sánchez and García Faroldi, 2014 - (but even the ones I've seen concluded it was still the most important factor for women) contrasting their own data which is much more recent and has differing results. Even Harper's data wh… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 01:49 PM |
| 13 | How do you guys believe in the blackpill?Don't see how guys being young makes them not betabux. Why do you think young women say they like ambitious men? Young guys can also have rich parents. Young guys can also study STEM and get good grades in school. For instance, the guy in my highschool who got with the hottest girl in the class wasn't the tallest, but he had an attractive face, star of the rugby team, got some of the best grades, and his dad bought him a Porsche as his first car which he drove to school every day. Before him tha… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 12:26 PM |
| 1 | Leave women aloneWe tested whether similarity, dissimilarity, or overall trait levels on mate value, physical attractiveness, life history strategy, and the Big-Five personality factors predicted romantic interest at zero acquaintance, and whether sex acted as a moderator. Results suggest a large sex difference in trait perception; when women rated men, they agreed in their perception more often than when men rated women. However, as a predictor of romantic interest, there were no sex differences. Only the respo… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 12:14 PM |
| 2 | Are you partaking in No Nut November?What would I have instead of masturbation? Without it onlyfan and asmr Paterson I have I have nothing | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 05:59 AM |
| 9 | It's not because of looksNo one literally no one even acknowledges my existence. I could jump in front of a train and get run. Over would anyone even notice? Qpuld my existence ever be acknowledged | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 05:55 AM |
| 2 | Leave women aloneNo. I guess according to the research it'd probably work, but just because it'd work doesn't mean you should. Bullying people is disgusting. Sacrificing your humanity and morality just to get laid is ridiculous. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Leave women aloneMen gave women the right to vote. ....which was a good thing. Let's not get too far with this shit | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 04:32 PM |
| 2 | The unrealistic spiritual expectations of normiesI agree, I'm starting to even feel embarressed even calling it "the blackpill". There's nothing about it that's especially dark edgy, or controversial, except from the way some incels overreact and get angry about it. Everyone knows that in the job market there's a beauty premium and racial biases are at play, there's even heightism going on except I think that's less known, but suddenly when you apply the same principles to the world of dating people lose their minds - it's ths same thing in my… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 02:56 PM |
| -1 | Leave women aloneWomen will only falsely accuse you of rape if you interact with them. That's why I'm saying you should leave women alone. Nothing comes from ugly men trying to interact with women. But you don't even need to interact with men for them to want to beat you up. And even when they falsely accuse you, who will they falsely accuse you to? Who are the police officers who blindly believe women without evidence? Barely any female police officers. Who are the judges who give men disproportionately longer … | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 02:47 PM |
| 20 | Leave women aloneYou're 100% correct. Sexually desirable men are more likely to be psychopathic. Sexually successful men are more likely to be misogynistic Violent men are more likely to have hook ups Pure physical bullying was positively associated with the number of dating and sexual partners, primarily for adolescent boys. Adolescent girls with more dating partners had greater odds of being relational bully-victims Bullying is associated with multiple proxies for reproductive success, such as a greater likeli… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 12:19 PM |
| 6 | Leave women aloneMen being more visual than women is a misogynistic myth. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 12:14 PM |
| 5 | The unrealistic spiritual expectations of normiesYou're right, whilst it's fair to point out limiting factors in research and a lot of times people do misinterpret research people's expectations for research can sometimes be ludicrous. Like I'll cite a study that has a sample size of thousands of people from multiple different countries, and then they'll say the study is useless because the sampled countries all come from the same continent and a sample size of thousands isn't big enough, it needs to be in the tens of thousands. And it's like,… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 12:04 PM |
| -1 | Leave women aloneFair enough, I guess you don't experience much bullying from men. Just know I'd rather be bullied by a woman than be bullied by a man. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 11:13 AM |
| -4 | Leave women aloneYeah, I get that women do bully eachother in less physical ways, but men bully eachother in non-physical ways aswell as physical ways on top. They'll rip into all of your personal insecurities whilst suffocating you in a head lock, whereas women will rip into all of your personal insecurities without laying a finger on you. At most they'll slap you. I'd much rather have been a girl back in school so I'd just have to endure being insulted and having people talk behind my back and be racist toward… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 11:10 AM |
| -7 | Leave women aloneMen heckling, bullying and even beating up sub5 men is common, but women bullying men? I guess it happens, but it's in no way a trend. For as much as me and many in this sub complain about women having higher standards, women are unequivocally the kinder and more compassionate gender on average. Outside of dating, men are genuine monsters in the we behave towards eachother. Most men are biologically designed to be sadistic. I don't blame women for being misandrists one bit. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 10:59 AM |
| 8 | The unrealistic spiritual expectations of normiesYou say their expectations for scientific proof is high, but the endless amounts of research supporting lookism and the halo effect meets those expectations very easily. Lookism and the halo effect is common knowledge within the realm of psychology. Even racial biases is a common idea that most intelligent people acknowledge and was even something I was asked to perform research into in my field of work."Blackpill" science is just really basic stuff you learn in a beginners class of psychology. … | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 10:50 AM |
| 15 | I haven’t given up on trying to find a partner. Can I still consider myself blackpilled?If she doesn't care about your appearance, then what would she care for? Your personality? How would that differentiate you from one of her friends who she likes the personality of? You buying her stuff and providing for her? So you want to be a betabux husband? | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 10:39 AM |
| 3 | Without including height what is the minimum amount of looks needed to have normal dating lifeNah I think 4s are very capable of becoming betabux husbands if they're rich enough, maybe 100 - 200k a year. And tbh even 2-3's could do it if they were millionaires and above. They'd definetely get divorced, get financially fucked over, and become suicidal drug addicts to cope, but atleast they'd be able to enjoy the illusion of being loved for a while. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 10:13 AM |
| 16 | Without including height what is the minimum amount of looks needed to have normal dating life1-3 are doomed. 4 - 6 can become betabux husbands. 7 and above are capable of having genuinely mutual loving relationships. Being a betabux husband is a normal dating life for a man, but it's in no way good or worth it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 09:49 AM |
| 22 | "Loser" is a gendered term that proves men are held to higher standards than womenNow that you've mentioned it, I've never seen a woman be called lazy before, or a wimp. Only men are expected to be hard working and fearless | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 08:03 AM |
| 2 | How to become whitepilled? I have so much jealousy, resentment, anger and hatred inside me after swallowing the blackpill. How do I overcome all these and don't remain bitter?You're not blackpilled if you feel angry about it. You're acting as if our miserable reality is anyone's choice. It isn't. Free will doesn't exist. Even soft-determinism is a cope. We're all animals. No one chooses their desires. No one chooses their upbringing, their environment, or their genetics. Women didn't choose to find most men unattractive. And neither you or i chose be ugly. If there was a God, then He'd be to blame, but there probably isn't a God. The world just exists through random … | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 10:26 AM |
| 4 | Men Don't Approach Because They are "Scared". They Simply Don't Think It Will WorkWaiting for approach doesn't work for most men for the same reason why approaching women doesn't work for men men - women don't find most men attractive. Both strategies have the same result. So you might as well reduce the rates of misandry by telling all men to stop approaching women in order to ensure you don't have hordes of ugly men harrassing women. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 10:16 AM |
| 2 | I don't know what to do anymore.You've convinced me, you're 100% right. I see that dynamic very clearly in my own parents relationship. Beta providers are chained into servitude by the threat of divorce. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 09:53 AM |
| 1 | If you aren't attracted to your looksmatch, then you rightfully should be a genetic dead endWomen match and date men they find unattractive because a lot of women view dating and relationships as a make money quick cheat code. A woman trying to form a long term relationship with a man they find genuinely attractive is hopeless if they only find the top 20% of men to be above average, let alone genuinely attractive. The mismatch between the number of men women find attractive and the proportion of men women are willing to date isn't a good thing. No wonder the divorce rates are so high … | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Blackpilled men of this sub, what race/ethnicity are you?Interesting ethnic minorities are overrepresented in the poll. It's almost as if.... No women are colour blind, women are wonderful ofc | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 08:27 AM |
| 7 | Men Don't Approach Because They are "Scared". They Simply Don't Think It Will WorkMen aren't supposed to approach women, period. Women are justifiably terrified of men, especially ugly men. Telling all the men in society that it's their duty to approach and they need to approach as many women as possible is a recipe for disaster. No wonder so many women despise the majority of men. The bluepill and redpill have been telling men to harrass women out of their league for centurie, tricking them into thinking that if they tell enough shitty jokes then she'll "develop" attraction … | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 09:51 PM |
| 0 | I don't know what to do anymore.The loneliness of a life like that will inevitably lead to depression and suicide. The idea of fucking a prostitute who finds me revolting but is only enduring my existence because she's desperate for money is the highest order of suicide fuel. The majority of men have been beta bucks providers for all of human history and most men aren't depressed, let alone suicidal. I don't think it's as bad as you're making it sound. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 03:39 PM |
| -1 | I don't know what to do anymore.You think it's better to jump off a bridge than be a beta bucks provider? Are you kidding? | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 03:35 PM |
| 0 | I don't know what to do anymore.Better to work a shitton then have to learn to endure the depression and suicidal ideation inevitable to living a whole life foreveralone. Either way you'll have to work a ton. I'd say the latter is much harder, to the point that it's debtable if it's even possible - if we're being realistic truly ugly quasimodos like me who have no hope of even being a betabucks provider have no hope left for them except a painless death. If you have any other option at all then that should be the choice. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 03:32 PM |
| -5 | I don't know what to do anymore.I don't agree with the blackpillers who say that average men are doomed to loneliness. If you're genuinly honest about being an average man, it's possible for you to find a below average woman who'll be willing to settle for you as long as you're willing to be the main breadwinner, prove that you have the potential to be an effective breadwinner (good job, nice car, nice clothes), and put in a disporportionate amount of effort into the relationship (you'll always have to initiate, plan everythin… | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 02:40 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men cannot figure out the signs when a women is not interested in them and still continues to pursue her. How can we teach next generation of young men to realize when a girl isn't interested in them and that they don't have a chance with her at all.There's nothing that bluepillers hate more than science. Any attempt to understand general trends in human behaviour is percieved as dehumanizing. To them, all humans are wholly self-determining ethereal, individual, and mystical souls that can only be understood through intuition and personal experience - in other words, humans are whatever makes them feel good about themselves. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/10/23 11:50 PM |
| 7 | A lot of men cannot figure out the signs when a women is not interested in them and still continues to pursue her. How can we teach next generation of young men to realize when a girl isn't interested in them and that they don't have a chance with her at all.Go to any decent psychology class where they study the relationships topic, and they'll literally teach blackpill science. "Blackpill" science - which is really just lookism, the halo effect and evolutionary theory- is common knowledge in the realm of psychology. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/10/23 08:27 PM |
| 5 | A lot of men cannot figure out the signs when a women is not interested in them and still continues to pursue her. How can we teach next generation of young men to realize when a girl isn't interested in them and that they don't have a chance with her at all.The solution to that is the blackpill. The reason why men continue to pursue women who aren't interested in them is because of the bluepill and redpill tricking men into thinking women are demisexual angels who reward ugly men for being charismatic, intelligent, having good personality, etc. The idea that womens' attraction is developed is the reason for this problem. The blackpill teaches men to give up quick after one look in the mirror. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/10/23 07:32 PM |
| 11 | The west can learn so much from IslamNo, stop it. Don't make us look bad with this shit. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 10:49 AM |
| 0 | My dream woman is a woman who is completely, irrevocably, obsessed with me.Imagine being the beta-bucks husband of one of those women in the Beatles video, watching as your wife shows 100* more excitement and lust for men who they don't even know or interacted with, just for her to go home with you afterwards, who she's been married to for 20 years, and pulls away from you in bed saying, "I'm just not in the mood for it tonight," knowing she's said the same thing every night for six months. And even the last time you got it on was just out of a sense of obligation beca… | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 10:27 AM |
| 2 | What is more brutal when failedI did it before, got with an obese woman. The answer is you get drunk, close your eyes, and imagine she's someone else. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 10:17 AM |
| 14 | What is more brutal when failedPUA is insanely brutal. Studies show that rejection activates the same part of the brain as physical pain. Now imagine how I've felt after getting tricked by pickup-artists into going clubbing once to twice a week for over a year, asking out a minimum of 20 women each night out? Each rejection caused me physical pain and chipped away at my self-esteem to now where there is nothing left. I was tricked into thinking each rejection made me stronger, and I'd eventually get used to it. I learned the … | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 10:17 AM |
| 1 | How is the blackpill so controversial?No way are you comparing a militaristic political organization that killed tens of millions and triggered a world war with a niche theory about dating? You're taking all of this way too seriously | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/10/23 12:28 PM |
| 4 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Of course I'm defending my worldview, that's what happens in a debate. You should try defending your viewpoints with actual arguments aswell, because you haven't thus far. All you've been doing is strawmanning and accusing me of things without any coherent reasoning. You still haven't presented me with examples of when I've personally proposed for women to be forced into servitude. Feel free to look through my profile. And no, things written on a random wiki by random people cannot be used as ev… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/10/23 10:08 AM |
| 4 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Forced into servitude? When have I ever suggested wanting such things? Funny how you accuse me of mansplaining just to then dismiss everything I say and assume what you think I believe | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/10/23 09:39 AM |
| 5 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Some in the group are hateful. But there's hateful people in every group. There's lots of bluepillers who want all lonely men to rope themselves as well. Humans are hateful. That doesn't mean the idea that "looks are one of the most important factors in your life" is a fundamentally hateful idea. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/10/23 08:25 AM |
| 3 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Just like how test subjects of the milgran experiment actively deny their propensity to obedience and social control pre experiment just to find how woefully wrong they are when a man in lab coat shows up telling them to electric shock some people. Rule number one of psychology is to never trust self reported data. Humans lie as easily and seamlessly as breathing to the point that people do it automatically without even noticing it. It's not misogynistic to acknowledge that humans, both men and … | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/10/23 08:08 AM |
| 3 | How is the blackpill so controversial?A true blackpiller wouldn't hate anyone. The natural world is a cruel place that punishes certain genes and rewards other genes. Women didn't create the natural world. Women didn't choose to have the standards they do. Them rejecting me is not their choice or anyone's choice. And I didn't choose to be born with my undesirable genetics either. I was born ugly, autistic, and with a speech impediment and no matter how much I work on my looks or my social skills I'll never be able to overcome my gen… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/10/23 08:00 AM |
| 2 | How is the blackpill so controversial?It's not the only thing, but it's the most important factor by far to the point that no other trait can truly compensate for it in most situations, to the point that blaming someone's lack of dating success on their lack of wealth, lack of dominance, or lack of emotional intelligence is just silly. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 11:16 PM |
| 2 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Firstly, why would that make women more evil than men? If both men and women have an equal part to play in the evils of the world then that would make men and women just as evil as each other. And secondly what makes you think women purposefully s d directly manipulate men to commit evil to the point that women are wholly responsible for those evils? | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 06:45 PM |
| 3 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Dunno about the Christian stuff at the end, but I agree with you. I'm a misogynist, but I'm also a misandrist aswell. Both men and women are pure evil | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 04:47 PM |
| 2 | How is the blackpill so controversial?I feel like governments have a strong interest in keeping everyone red and bluepilled, but I think the average chadlite would love to see all blue and redpilled sub5 copers get blackpilled and ropemaxx. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 04:42 PM |
| 8 | How is the blackpill so controversial?A true blackpiller wouldn't hate anyone. The natural world is a cruel place that punishes certain genes and rewards other genes. Women didn't create the natural world. Women didn't choose to have the standards they do. Them rejecting me is not their choice or anyone's choice. And I didn't choose to be born with my undesirable genetics either. I was born ugly, autistic, and with a speech impediment and no matter how much I work on my looks or my social skills I'll never be able to overcome my gen… | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 04:40 PM |
| 3 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Ah I see what you mean, yeah you're right, just like with the just world fallacy they want to present this illusion that everyone's born on the same starting line, everyones born a blank slate, and everyone is born with an equal chance of success. They refuse to acknowledge that some people are just doomed from the beginning, or at the very least are born with significantly lower chances than others. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 04:37 PM |
| 2 | How is the blackpill so controversial?I don't think that has anything to do with it. The blackpill and existence of the patriarchy aren't mutually exclusive. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 04:34 PM |
| 1 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Why would women be more superficial and shallow? Men primarily care about looks aswell. Content and following? You talking about IG models and onlyfans girls? Most women aren't either. I agree that women do behave in ways that wouldn't be acceptable for men, but women aren't narcissistic at all, in fact, women are on average less confident than men. Except that in itself is a privellege because women are allowed to be unsure of themselves, whereas men are always expected to be self-assured, and … | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 04:33 PM |
| 4 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Is still a friend. Just because it's possible to win the lottery doesn't mean that's the norm or anyone should expect such a result. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 04:29 PM |
| 0 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Puts the blame on women for what? What privelleges do you think women have that would be removed with the blackpill? | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 03:30 PM |
| 2 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Those are definitly the two biggest reasons. Shame how a few bad apples have to take the idea to such weird extremes and make us all look bad. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 03:29 PM |
| 8 | How is the blackpill so controversial?What do women call a fun guy who's under six foot? A friend. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 03:25 PM |
| 3 | How is the blackpill so controversial?Lmao what? Saying that women are more evil or selfish than men is just a cringe cope. Yes, they're hypocritical when it comes to talking about dating, but they're not any more hypocritical in any other topic. My guide is that if anyone starts talking about morality in the context of dating they're probably coping and malding hard.k | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 03:22 PM |
| 3 | How is the blackpill so controversial?I don't see it as an ugly truth at all. I think ther redpill and bluepill are just as if not more ugly. The idea that women are all gold diggers, or demisexuals isn't the prettiest of world views in my eyes. They give hope to ugly men, but they silmutaneously place all the blame on them, all failures are their fault, and ugly men fail a lot so that's a tough life to lead. Yeah sure, the blackpill makes sub5 men ropemaxx which would lead to the destruction of civilization, but I don't think redpi… | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 02:52 PM |
| 3 | How is the blackpill so controversial?I agree with the Just World fallacy thing, that's probably one of the main reasons for the push back against the blackpill. Americans especially with their obsession with freedom and self-determination despise the blackpill and any type of determinism. Except I disagree with the idea that the blackpill is anti-egalitarian, I think that the redpill and bluepill are actually more at odds with modern egalitarianism. The redpill obviously goes against it by saying that women are all golddigging subm… | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 02:26 PM |
| 6 | How is the blackpill so controversial?It hurts mens feelings, I get why men try to spread the redpill and bluepill, but why would the blackpill hurt women's feelings? | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 02:04 PM |
| 9 | How is the blackpill so controversial?I don't think the average redpiller or bluepiller cares about the structure of society. In fact, I'm sure some feminists would love to see ugly men get blackpilled and ropemaxx. I can see why men will want to maintain the redpill and bluepill illusions, but now that a lot of women are trying to be financially indepdent and not even trying to date beta providers anymore, I don't see why women are trying to maintain the redpill and bluepill illusions. Why don't they just bite the bullet and admit … | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 02:03 PM |
| 1 | How do I live as a bl*ck man5they are so cold with her rejections, atoreat women say they need to ibtovtouidy | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 04:44 AM |
| 1 | How do I live as a bl*ck manI'm m. A victims if the kkkkj | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 04:05 AM |
| 1 | How do I live as a bl*ck manWahmej are fucking iso to szdo t ikn | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 04:04 AM |
| 1 | How do I live as a bl*ck manIt never began fie maetuabs | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 04:03 AM |
| 1 | How do I live as a bl*ck manItne st bega | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 04:03 AM |
| 1 | How do I live as a bl*ck manYeahh black women are even colder | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 12:54 AM |
| 1 | How do I live as a bl*ck manNahh they like me if Ihad silvdrt site skin | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 12:54 AM |
| 5 | Sex ratio at birth is 105 boys for every 100 girls. So for some men it’s over even in a perfect world.Add on the fact that women are three times more likely than men to be non-heterosexual. Women also tend to be happier single and so are less willing than men to settle. Women already find 80% of men as being below average in attractiveness. There's also a minimum of twice as many autistic men as there are autistic women. (Only 5% of autistic people ever get married, and I'd specualate that the majority of that 5% are women). It never began. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 12:01 PM |
| 7 | The gaslighting from women is insaneYou're right that men on average have higher IQ than women, but that's actually to do with height. Taller people have higher IQs than short people, and men tend to be taller than women. Once you control for height women actually have slightly higher IQs than men). And considering how many short men are in this sub, the men on this sub probably don't have an intelligence significantly different from the average woman's. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/10/23 03:11 PM |
| -4 | The gaslighting from women is insaneDon't make us look bad with that shit, there's no reason to think women have no intelligence or strength. Their virtue signalling and dishonesty about their preferences is stupid, but it's more of a strange cultural trend than it is an inherent trait. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/10/23 02:39 PM |
| 22 | The gaslighting from women is insaneIt's strange how obsessed women are with trying to pretend that they're all demisexual. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/10/23 02:02 PM |
| 9 | Why would anyone here even want a relationship after seeing all this shit?Your worries aren't unfounded. I was dating a girl for a month and a half, went out with her twice a week, took her to expensive resteraunts, never split the bill. We'd kiss evertyime we went out so I thought she enjoyed it. I was the one to initiate each time, but that's just what men are supposed to do, right? Then as usual I kissed her on a date I took her on a week ago. But this time, after kissing me she said she finds kissing weird and is beginning to wonder if she might be asexual. Imagin… | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/10/23 12:57 PM |
| 1 | How do you live as a sub5?Black | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/10/23 11:20 AM |
| 1 | How do you live as a sub5?Same, except I rot outside, forcing myself into social situations every day that just end in failure and another chunk of my self esteem chipped off. | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/10/23 11:20 AM |
| 2 | How do you live as a sub5?High tier Becky's would be interested in Quasimodo? A man with a hunchback and facial deformities? Are you serious? | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/10/23 07:23 AM |
| 3 | How do you live as a sub5?You think a 6ft Quasimodo is attractive to women? | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/10/23 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Are there any subreddits or formus which primarily talks about coping for sub5 men and not talking about women a lot.I wish there was, but it feels like most people just want ppl like us to rope. Idk tho maybe try to get invested in a hobby. Reading novels and getting immersed in the lives of the protagonists kinda simulates human interaction and connection. It's also an escape from reality. Obviously video games can be like that aswell | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/10/23 12:20 AM |
| 3 | How do you live as a sub5?No, most studies that blackpillers reference shows that facial structure is the most important factor. Height helps, which is probably why I've gotten some inklings of success, making out with girls at nightclubs and getting regular likes tinder, but they all obviously reject or ghost me for white, neurotypical men with attractive faces and likeable personalities. I've already tried self improvement more than you can imagine. It doesn't work for me. Maybe for you and others, but I was genuinely … | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/10/23 12:13 AM |
| 1 | How do you live as a sub5?You're just copy and pasting your own comments now 🤣 Say something with a unique point atleast | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/10/23 11:58 PM |
| 2 | How do you live as a sub5?I'm not asking for a fix. I've tried this stuff. Doesn't work for me. I'm curious about other people's coping mechanisms and methods of distraction from loneliness. I'm not interested in anymore shitty bluepill or redpill solutions - they dont work for me | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/10/23 11:54 PM |
| 2 | How do you live as a sub5?Thanks, it's tough but could be worse. I was born financially well off and in a first world country atleast. Just a bit hard to find meaning on it without genuine platonic or non platonic relationships to motivate me. I wish there was neurosurgerymaxxing to get rid of my autism, speech impediment and shit personality but nope. I don't think I'm gonna bother with maxxing, I just want to figure out a way to cope and distract myself from my loneliness. I need to learn to properly invest in my hobbi… | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/10/23 11:53 PM |
| 2 | How do you live as a sub5?Trust me, you don't need to tell me that. I know humiliation is a foreign concept to you. You're never wrong. You're better than everyone. Everyone else is beneath you. You're just confident though, not arrogant at all. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/10/23 11:48 PM |
| 9 | How do you live as a sub5?You realize you're just repeating yourself at this point? "You're dumber than a child!" Ok, great, cool story, now what? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/10/23 04:41 PM |
| 7 | How do you live as a sub5?You were better than me at 12 because you just pulled yourself up by your bootstraps whilst I'm a victim playing, lazy and stupid, and evil piece of shit, and blah blah blah (insert more generic insults here). I get it. You don't like me, like everyone else in the world. Do you have anything more unique to say or is it gonna be just more of the same? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/10/23 04:08 PM |
| 8 | How do you live as a sub5?Good for you. You're better than me. Congrats. Is that all? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/10/23 03:47 PM |
| -2 | Do you really want woman that treat ugly guys like shit?That's.y gf 🤣🤣 | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 04:16 AM |
| 5 | Are you guys ok?I'm one bad day away from buying a rope and ladder So I'm doing alright | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 04:16 AM |
| 3 | Sorry guys, if you want to be an ethnic guy dating an ethnic woman in the west, you’ve gotta be 6’9It never began | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?Exactly, his want to feel loved and hisfeeling entitled to a slave are two different things that aren't related and shouldn't be conflated, let alone projected onto all lonely men | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 04:34 PM |
| 2 | Rotting in bedroomUnhealthy for the physical. But if you're Quasimodo like me, it's good for your mental health. I go out way too much. I got out clubbing every week. It's torture for quasimodos. I wish I stayed inside more often, instead of building up so much false hope. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 03:29 PM |
| 17 | It's insane how much women are worshipedWomen see other women as allies. Men see women as trophies. Women see men as threats. And men see other men as competition. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?Do you not think some people will question the humanity of an autonomous AI robot with the ability to express a wide range of emotions with convincing and realistic facial expression and body language? Would people think there'd be ethical issues with forcing these autonomous robots to be the bangmaids of Quasimodo? | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?I get what you mean. Other people sleep with their wives, whilst I watch onlyfans and patreon asmr gf videos to put myself to sleep every night. The thought does make me feel suicidal sometimes, but I don't know, I don't really care any more. I've been shamed, ridiculed, and humiliated so much in my life that my position in the social hierarchy can't really make it any worse. What's the humiliation of privately watching a few asmr gf videos compared to getting actually cucked and laughed at and … | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?There's a big difference between wanting to feel loved and being an abuser. I don't know why any time a man voices the desire to feel loved feminists instantly jump to assuming that he feels entitled to a relationship. Desire and entitlement aren't synonymous. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?Wouldn't the fact that the girlfriend/sex doll is artificial fail to fill an incels' void of loneliness? | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 03:10 PM |
| 0 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?Yeah, it wouldn't bring suicide rates to 0%, but I think if AI girlfriends were able to successfully replicate the feelings of a regular romantic relationship then I think men would become significantly happier on average, albeit obviously wouldn't be a drastic change, let alone solve everything. When you mean requiring imagination, do you mean filling in the gaps? So kinda like in Blade Runner 2049, K isn't actually touching a physical thing when he kissing Joi's hologram, he kinda had to trick… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 03:09 PM |
| 4 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?Eh, It'd be better than nothing. As long as the robot looks and feels convincing enough I'd be down. Which is why AI women woud need some level of autonomy to be appealing. But if they have too much autonomy, why wouldn't they just reject Quasimodo like real women do? | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 11:02 AM |
| 2 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?I agree it's not actually feeling pain, but just due to humans' capability to feel empathy, we'll still feel that puppet's expressions are real. Kinda like how people tend to anthropromorphize animals. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 11:01 AM |
| 2 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?I agree, but it's kinda like how humans anthropromorphize animals and think they're cognitively capable of more than they actually are. Even if a robot's emotional expressions are just emulations, we'll still feel that they're just as real as ours as long as a robot can be constructed with convincing enough facial expression. And I'm sure as a result of that many would want them to have some semblance of rights. Maybe not full on human rights, but atleast a code of ethics that limits the way you… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 11:00 AM |
| 3 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?From my limited understanding, AI works by being trained on massive pre-existing datasets. So for text-based they're usually trained on tons of text data from the internet. So if you were try and develop an AI woman, it'd be trained on a database filled with the behaviour of already existing women (somehow, dunno how you can "store" behaviour). Wouldn't that just result in AI women developing the same preferences as real women? Maybe after creating a mostly autonomous AI woman, you can then edit… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 10:55 AM |
| 2 | Are AI Girlfriends the solution?What if you were to program an AI robot to be mostly autonomous and capable of expressing a full range of emotions in reaction to external stimuli? Like, if AI robot touched boiling water they'd react as if they felt pain by shouting or crying, and if they recieved a compliment they'd react as if they felt happiness by smiling? Would those expressions of emotion lack any significance, thus making it ethical to do whatever you wanted to them? Or should their ability to express emotion give them h… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 10:34 AM |
| 7 | “FA women” is furious that she’s expected to settle for a “mediocre equal partner” and can’t get treated like a “princess”A woman who can cook? Stop trying to make incels look bad. Most of us don't give a shit about that. I can cook for myself. All I want is a woman who's genuinely attracted to me, wants sex as much as I want it, will listen to what I'm saying, ask me questions about my life, put effort into conversation, and be willing to split the bills. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?There's someone else on this post who actually answered the question I was asking properly: https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/16zmjyd/comment/k3ggwul/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 And then you have women who say this, this, and think anomalies like this applies to all men. This is also a really good post that illustrates the issue I'm talking about. So yeah, I don't really know what you're complaining about. There's lots of women who'll get into relationships with me… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 12:00 PM |
| 1 | If dating apps aren’t real life, then what’s the equivalent that favors men?Those 80 year old ugly obese grandpas lived in a time where he probably got an arranged marriage with stacy. These 60 yo ugly obese grandpas you see with stacies may have not got an arranged marriage with stacy, but these men lived in a time when stacy couldn't join the work force or open her own bank account so she forced herself to marry the ugly rich guy in order to survive. Now that 20 year old men live in a time when women earn the same as them, what do ugly men have to offer? Nothing. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 09:42 AM |
| 1 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?Did you read the post? You've not answered the question at all. And If your boyfriend isn't ugly then I don't know why you're trying to answer this question. Just say he's not ugly and move on | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 09:30 AM |
| 3 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?Thanks for answering! Can you also talk about how you would feel if a boyfriend once told you that he thought you were ugly but was only dating you because (insert interior motive)? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 05:42 PM |
| 3 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?Now you're the one refusing to acknowledge what a woman says 🤣🤣 you bluepillers are constant contradictions And clearly women don't know anything either because apparently I should trust what she says. The only one who knows anything is you and you only 🤣🤣 | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?She literally said she doesn't think her boyfriend/husband is ugly. I literally quoted it. Her words, not mine. They're not answering the question because they dont have boyfriends. They're voicing their hypotheses about how they think women will answer as we wait for results. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?He was never ugly She explicitly said she never thought he was ugly and still doesn't. This post doesn't apply to her and shouldn't be answered by her. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?Maybe don't use the word fat, and obviously don't call her that when she's dressing up to go out, but I think it's imperative to let people who are overweight know that they are overweight at some point. There's some tact in communicating that, but it does need to be communicated. Especially when it comes to body weight, that's a matter of physical health. The lie isn't not calling the partner ugly, the lie is calling them handsome and good-looking (which I imagine you'll be saying throughout th… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 04:04 PM |
| 5 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?I asked a question for women who are dating ugly men. She answers the question, yet denies that she thinks her boyfriend is ugly. She's getting downvoted because she doesn't understand the point of the post | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?Actually, why am I even debating you? In my post I said: This is a question for bluepill women who are dating ugly men with good personalities (if they exist): have your told your boyfriend that you think they're ugly? If you don't think your boyfriend is ugly, it's pointless for you to answer my question because obviously why would you tell your boyfriend something that you don't think is true? I know your using a metaphor but it’s ridiculous how often you guys can’t talk about people as people… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 03:58 PM |
| 2 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?That's true of all psychological study. Self-reported data is almost always false. The truth is hidden between the lines or disovered by looking at behaviour | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 03:34 PM |
| 2 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?Dude you are really really over thinking this, he doesn’t care that I didn’t find him instantly attractive, he didn’t find me instantly attractive, it came quicker for him that it did for me but we still bonded If you didn't think he was physically attractive when you first knew him, but found him physically attractive once you got to know him... what happened there? Did his physical appearance suddenly change once you got to know him? Or did your interpreation of his appearance change? Of cours… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 03:22 PM |
| 3 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?Have you not heard the term MILF? All those things don't make women unattractive. The greatest myth in the dating sphere is that older women are unattractive and struggle to get dates. That's false. The only struggle is finding a man that's good enough for her. Even 50 yr old women get swarmed with attention. Most of the time men still find their wives attractive even after pumping out several children. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?White lies are by definition insignificant. When someone asks, "how's your day going?" and you say, "fine." That's a white lie. Lying about why you're dating a long-term partner is rude, which for me is actually an understatement. Do you think it's rude when men lie to women about loving them holistically just to get one-night-stands? Yeah sure, it's wrong to lie, but it'd hurt the woman so much more if he was being honest and told her he only likes her for her looks, right? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 03:10 PM |
| 4 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?he ticks a few boxes for classic “ugliness I didn’t find him attractive when I first met him I don't think I'm overthinking at all. If he was to turn round and tell me he didn’t/doesn’t find me attractive of course it would hurt So why don't you think it'd hurt him? he’s not the kinda guy to even think like that Does he not think women are physically attractive? Is he heterosexual or maybe he's demisexual? he doesn’t “rate” people they way you guys do here, he sees me as “me” the person not my l… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 03:07 PM |
| 3 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?Not your type is just a kind way of saying that you thought he was subjectively unattractive. It's also vague because saying, "you're not my type," could mean not being attracted their looks-type or personality-type. So he could believe that you initially were unsure about his personality, which is the norm because obviously if you don't know someone for long you're not gonna be sure about their personality, it takes time to get to know someone. But maybe i'm wrong, does he specifically know tha… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 02:37 PM |
| 10 | Benefits to being blackpilledLies feel good in the short term, but hurt in the long term. Truth hurts in the short term, but helps you in the long term. The bluepill is the equivalent of a sugary sweet. The blackpill is the equivalent of a bitter vegetable. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 02:11 PM |
| 8 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?So when you first met him you thought he was ugly, but after becoming more attracted to his personality, you learned to become attracted to his ugly physical traits? In a sense, you don't actually think his physical traits are attractive, you just percieve those traits differently, am I getting that right? Have you told him this? Hypothetically, how would you feel if you found out he thought you were ugly? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 02:05 PM |
| 3 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?I think lying is just as rude. The way to not be rude would be to just not date that person in the first place, so you don't need to lie or tell the truth. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 02:01 PM |
| 2 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?And then you have women who say this, this, this, and talk about this. This is also a really good one. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Question for bluepill women: do you think your boyfriends are ugly?You're not upsetting them, you're telling the truth, which may result in upsetting them, but the truth always hurts and it's always worth it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 01:53 PM |
| 4 | What do you call an attractive man that women dontf like?Fax | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/09/23 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Short men are oppressed🙏😂😂😂😂😂😂 were deeooooome | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/09/23 03:40 AM |
| 2 | OKCupid study proved that men only message the most attractive women.So you think it'd be ok and make sense if your boyfriend said, "I think you're ugly, I'm only dating you because you think I'm attractive"? No, you're coping. You think men who look good and are fun to be around attractive, even if they don't like you. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 08:29 PM |
| 15 | Women advise other women to cut their hair short because they want to sabotage their attractiveness in the dating marketThe whole body positivity movement, and why it's only focused on women, explained in one study. Perfect. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 02:17 PM |
| 1 | OKCupid study proved that men only message the most attractive women.Why wouldn't men be more likely to message women they find attractive? Why would you want to date someone you found unattractive? It's actually kinda messed up to date someone you find unattractive. Imagine if your boyfriend said, "I think you're ugly, I'm only dating you for X ulterior reason." The real question is why are so many women messaging men they aren't attracted to? Why would you want to have a relationship with someone you're not attracted to? Could it be that many of those female pr… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 02:14 PM |
| 1 | What exactly do bluepillers want us to do about our situation?They want equality, they just want some people to be more equal than others. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/09/23 12:17 AM |
| 1 | I'm so sick of yallIkr how can I compete with ateez? 🤣🤣 | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/09/23 06:35 PM |
| 2 | I'm so sick of yallHaha I can relate to that, when I was a hermit I'd literally imagine myself going on a honeymoon with women who'd ask me for directions lol I was able to overcome my social anxiety to an extent, now I go out and socialize quite regularly in spite of my anxiety, but I didn't get many results from it. But if you think about it it doesn't really make sense to assume that you're doomed to loneliness if you're not even regularly in an environment where men could approach you, let alone if you don't a… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/09/23 06:27 PM |
| 8 | A dude swipes right a large majority of the time for literally over a million swipes and gets a single failed date. A low tier becky swipes right less than 1.5% of the time and goes on 7 dates, all of which end in sex.The most blackpilling experience was when a below average unemployed woman who I went on a date with showed me her tinder profile. I used to be a bluepiller, but then I took a psychology 101 class in school so I became a redpiller. Then I touched grass, went on dates, went clubbing every weekend for a year, and now I'm blackpilled. It's over and it never began | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/09/23 06:00 PM |
| 3 | I'm so sick of yallWhat things do you do to try and find men to date? If you don't go on dating apps, do you cold approach men in public? Do you have any hobby groups you go to? Do you go to nightclubs or bars? Do you have friends and try to ask out friends of friends? | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/09/23 05:52 PM |
| 2 | Your average bluepiller gaslighting you here and on other subs about you having a bad personality unironically has a bad personalityYou misunderstand. Humans are a predator species. We're tribalistic in the sense that we're biologically designed to not just hunt other species, but also to hunt within our own species against other tribes. And we don't regretfully hunt to protect members of our own tribe or for the greater good, men have been biologically designed to take pleasure in violence. To be "good" as a human you need to be violent, aggressive, narcissistic, psychopathic, and sadistic. Narcissisim and psychopahty are e… | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 11:46 AM |
| 4 | For incels who've given up, how do you cope knowing you'll never have a romantic relationship?Hope. Hope that fully immersive VR experiences with haptic suits and AI generated Gfs will be developed in my life time. That and GF ASMR onlyfans and patreon subscriptions. It's been years since I went to sleep at night without listening to one of those. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 11:38 AM |
| 2 | Low libido isn't realThere is such thing as low libido. The low libido is just caused by living with a man she doesn't find attractive. | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/09/23 02:20 PM |
| 2 | I hate women with high body countDon't hate anyone You have no enemies | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/09/23 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesRight, but you assume most victims of bullying are creeps, correct? Like my 13 year old neighbor for example last year got threatened with a knife by a group of bullies, and you'd assume my 13 yr old neighbor was a creep purely because he was a victim of bullying, right? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 08:37 PM |
| 3 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesAre you seriously arguing that most general bullying is justified because you think most victims of bullying were just creeps? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesAnd then you call me a narcissist. You know everything about me apparently | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 08:27 PM |
| 4 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesWhat makes you think those bullies are only bullying predators? Could you quote where in the studies it said that? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:43 PM |
| 3 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesYou say you're not talking about me specifically yet you go on to accuse me of stuff. You realise everything you're saying is an assumption driven by personal biases? And you've still not answered my question as to why you think general bullying is justified by the way | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesCould you cite some of that research? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesThat's incredible thanks for linking this 🤣🤣 | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:26 PM |
| 4 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesI didn't know of their existence when they were up but I was on Reddit. I'm still waiting for you to give me an example of when I said I hate women, let alone when I said I want women in concentration camps | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:24 PM |
| 5 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesWait, you're actually trying to argue that bullying is usually justified? Just so we're clear I'm not specifically talking about incels being bullied I'm talking about bullying in general and that's what the studies are talking about aswell. I really hope that you're misunderstanding what we're talking about or else my hope in humanity is about to reach a new low | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:23 PM |
| 5 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesI'm an incel. When have I said it? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:11 PM |
| 7 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesWhy do you think the victims of most bullies are creeps ? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesI never said that. But I am saying that after you meet a woman's looks threshold being a psychopath will usually increase her attraction. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesSampled through what unbiased process? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Women care about looks more than menThe issue is with the people denying it | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 03:31 PM |
| 2 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesSee how the discussion leads to a dead end where we have to agree to disagree because of that? Only if there was an impartial method we could use to find a common ground | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 03:30 PM |
| 3 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesDid they not teach the scientific method in high school? Research is specifically designed to get rid of as much personal bias a possible | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 03:29 PM |
| 3 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesWhat makes you think lonely virgin men by and large want that? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 03:28 PM |
| 3 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesWhat would you do if my personal experiences contradicted yours? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 02:21 PM |
| 5 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesPersonal experience is by definition biased. Personal experiences are personal. Your biases inform the sampling of your experiences, the way you remember those experiences and the way you interpret those memories. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 02:20 PM |
| 3 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesIn your personal experience it is. But mine differs. Where do we go from here in this discussion? How can we find a common ground? Is there an impartial method that we could use to progress towards a common understanding? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 02:06 PM |
| 4 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesDo you not think it's possible for someone's peronal experiences to be biased? What method do you think is commonly used to remove bias from investigating a certain topic? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 02:04 PM |
| 7 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesYeah there is some of that there, just like how in my OP I have several real studies | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 02:01 PM |
| 7 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesIs judging on personal experience really the only choice? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 02:00 PM |
| 10 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesJust like how the man hating at r/twoxchromosomes isn't representative of the average woman or the average feminist, this subreddit isn't representative of the average incel/lonely man | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 01:56 PM |
| 2 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesYes, I'm not basing my personal values on amoral natural selection | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesI personally value morality, especially having empathy for others and kindness. I don't care if it hurts me. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 12:51 PM |
| 2 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesActually, go on, please being so arrogantly theatrical and derogatory, your comments act as extra evidence for my argument. You've been successful with women precisely because of the instinct that's driving you to skip past honest debating and straight to ad hominems like you've done every single time we've argued. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 12:49 PM |
| 3 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesSo dramatic 🙄 Just make your counter argument instead of being so self-importantly theatrical about it. I don't have very high expectations though considering how you still haven't made a single coherent point in the many times we argued in the past, but I hope you can prove me wrong. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 12:31 PM |
| 6 | Women tend to be attracted to cruel, misogynistic and psychopathic bulliesI don't care what happens in your silly "experiment". Your personal experience can't be generalized. I posted several studies in the OP. One of them was a meta-analysis looking at dozens of studies that all say the same thing. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 11:58 AM |
| 3 | why is anime suddenly so popular even Chad's and Stacy watch itYou're not wrong, I was so shocked when the normie women at my work said that they were watching Demon Slayer and Jujustu Kaisen, one of them was even watching AOT | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 11:14 AM |
| 2 | How is anyone here debating against the blackpill after seeing u/takinchase's latest post?Man I just looked through his posts and they're way more blackpilling than most chadfishing experiments | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 09:35 AM |
| 2 | Women care about looks more than menMan, I've never messaged women that have put that much effort into their messages than the women in those. And to think they're putting that much effort into messaging literal trash.... chadfish experiments are unbeaten in their blackpilling effect. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 09:33 AM |
| 6 | Women care about looks more than menThe point of the post is to counter bluepill gaslighting. No, I'm not lonely because I'm a shitty person, it's because I was born ugly. No, my loneliness isn't a choice, it was forced onto me at birth. No, I shouldn't hate myself for being lonely, It's not my fault. I never said I wanted women to settle for men they don't want, don't waste mental effort imagining me saying things I never said. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 09:29 AM |
| 4 | Women care about looks more than menI understand that. You're saying looks don't matter. I disagree with you, but Im saying that I'm glad your making the argument looks don't matter because most bluepillers run away from admitting that they think that when I usually pull up the studies. So I'm glad that you're actually sticking to your unscientific guns so I don't look like I'm arguing against a straw man. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 07:56 AM |
| 9 | Women care about looks more than menThanks for commenting this. I get way too many comments from people saying that "no one says looks don't matter!" which makes me feel like I'm going insane because I see comments like your's all the time, I just always forget to save them. But now you've put this here I can use this as a good reference to counter the gaslighting. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/09/23 11:08 PM |
| 13 | Women care about looks more than menOops, sorry about that, I didn't know a 10k views music video made by an obscure rapper is a stronger source of knowledge than several scientific studies. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/09/23 06:21 PM |
| 6 | Question for incels: what would your ideal society look like?It would reduce a lot of the barriers for suicide. You can be arrested and detained in mental health hospitals if the police think you're a danger to yourself or others. I had a classmate who attempted suicide many times, and each time he tried it his parents and girlfriend would call the cops on him and detain him in mental health hospitals. Even when he finally killed himself after hanging himself, they kept him alive in a coma for a week before he finally died. He would've killed himself year… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/09/23 05:57 PM |
| 9 | Question for incels: what would your ideal society look like?Our ideal society would be one with legalized voluntary euthanasia. Happiness is hopeless for us, so atleast let us escape suffering. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/09/23 04:23 PM |
| 17 | Women care about looks more than men-women care about looks more than men may initially believe but it’s only one (important) aspect of a man’s overall attractiveness We don't disagree. -most women are considered attractive to most men But even then, being an unattractive woman doesn't effect your chances that much. -large jaws are considerably masculine and masculinity is known as the opposite of femininity and opposites attract Well yeah, i agree, I'm not sure what you're point is with this. -men are able to gain muscle faster d… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/09/23 03:32 PM |
| 5 | Year of approaching women = no self esteemYup I'm drunk beyond comprehension but I'm still anxious it's over for me | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/09/23 02:21 AM |
| 5 | Year of approaching women = no self esteemGenetic trash like me have never received signals | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/09/23 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Girls do approach the boys they find attractive.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 indian janitor 4 ft 11 will be the next James Bond I assure you my brother 😭😭😭 | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/09/23 12:45 AM |
| 11 | Year of approaching women = no self esteemYup it's because I'm a genetic calamity that needs to be eugeniced out of society. If Hitler won then a useless idiot like me I wouldn't exist and that would be salvation for me and my parents they wouldn't have to raise trash like me I feel so sorry for them and everyone o have to interact with 😭😭😭😭🤣🤣😂😂😂 | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/09/23 12:44 AM |
| 6 | Year of approaching women = no self esteemHahahaha that's it the women saw my future through their prophecy powers and knew I'd give up in the future that's why I'm an ink well, sputtering random splotchezof black on the page of life I'm a calamity of genetics | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/09/23 12:15 AM |
| 2 | "Women don't like you because you have a negative attitude!"Yeah ur right very bad example | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Girls do approach the boys they find attractive.I doubt it's the norm. If that was the case women wouldn't be throwing themselves at my Chad friend and making out with him minutes after talking to him, while I can approach them and make them laugh yet they'd still reject me for him who barely says anything to them | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Girls do approach the boys they find attractive.Ah I see, my misunderstanding. So when you look at an attractive man do you feel anything? Or do you just emotionlessly and objectively acknowledge "that's an attractive man," but it's only when you learn about that man's personality that you'll feel something towards his appearance? | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 02:34 PM |
| 3 | Girls do approach the boys they find attractive.Are you a heterosexual woman? If so, why don't you date your female friends if looks don't matter? | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 02:24 PM |
| 3 | "Women don't like you because you have a negative attitude!"Fair enough, she didn't genuinely love him, but I'd say it's still evidence for my argument. My main point is that loneliness and moral character aren't correlated. And Henry VIII could be considered as an example of a man who was able to manipulate and blackmail women into faking affection for him which is disturbingly common. It reminds of me when this woman I dated in the past said her best friend was in a relationship with a man who was emotionally abusive, but she couldn't leave him because… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 02:20 PM |
| 10 | Girls do approach the boys they find attractive.They dont know me either, to them im also just an idea, specifically the idea of "unattractive autistic ethnic minority male with a speech impediment". It's almost as if Brad Pitt is "romantic"ized. They treat him as more than a regular human because they feel romantic emotions towards him, and treat me differently because they feel disgust towards me. And in my original comment I never said "if you were Brad Pitt" it was "if you look like Brad Pitt" I'm not rly saying you have to be treated as … | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 12:56 PM |
| 6 | Girls do approach the boys they find attractive.Women don't like me. Women like Brad Pitt. If a woman behaves towards someone in the same way they behave towards me then it's a good sign that they don't like that person. If they behave towards that person in the same way that they would behave towards Brad Pitt then it's a good sign that they do like that person. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 12:21 PM |
| 10 | "Women don't like you because you have a negative attitude!"They'll say that women don't know about their shitty personality but also claim that women can read our minds and don't like us bcos of what we post on anonymous private reddit accounts | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 10:20 AM |
| 10 | Girls do approach the boys they find attractive.Why don't you? | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 10:00 AM |
| 15 | Girls do approach the boys they find attractive.Yup, if you've never been approached you're doomed. If you have to approach a woman first she doesn't truly like you. Always use the Brad Pitt rule: would she be acting like this if u looked like Brad Pitt? Would she take 12 hours to respond to ur text if u looked like Brad Pitt? Would she wait for u to approach if u looked like Brad Pitt? Would you need a million hobbies if u looked like Brad Pitt? If she doesn't treat you like Brad Pitt, then she doesn't truly like you and will leave you for a… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 07:47 AM |
| 3 | incel zooYou guys don't even debate us tho. You just say "touch grass loser" and never honestly engage with the arguments we make . The sub isn't called r/allpillhater either | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 07:24 AM |
| 7 | incel zooWe never asked for your advice. Your goal has always been to make us feel like shit. And good job, you guys have succeeded. We can't even vent here in peace | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Never listen any anti-blackpiller or woman in this sub, never.So they can laugh as they watch us squirm and feel like shit | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 12:17 AM |
| 6 | Never listen any anti-blackpiller or woman in this sub, never.It's been scientifically proven at the university of bluepill that playing beethovens moonlight sonata second movement triggers female arousal | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 12:15 AM |
| 2 | Redpill is dumb. Blackpill is truthSalsa and Bachata, I go with mates but I try to pick up most of the time if I don't chicken out. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/08/23 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Redpill is dumb. Blackpill is truthI live in a city, in the UK, no limitations except autism and a speech impediment, I work from home, the only outdoor activites i do these days are dancing classes and clubbing, except I used to volunteer at a soup kitchen, do magic the gathering, and DnD a few months ago. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/08/23 11:09 AM |
| 3 | Redpill is dumb. Blackpill is truthHow is it not nonsense? Do you think therapists get people girlfriends? Do you think it's possible for a social animal to learn to be happy alone their entire lives? How come psychopaths are more attractive to womenif personality is oh so important and women complain about guys being too nice all the time? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/08/23 11:06 AM |
| 4 | Redpill is dumb. Blackpill is truthMost women I approach are very chill and respectful about rejecting me. But man it only takes 1/20 women who make a big deal out of it and make fun of me about it to add a few litres of petrol to my suicide fuel | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/08/23 07:15 AM |
| 2 | Redpill is dumb. Blackpill is truthIf it doesn't involve going to a therapist, learning to be happy alone, or "getting a better personality" or other bluepilled nonsense along those lines then yeah I'd be interested to hear what you have in mind | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/08/23 07:12 AM |
| 3 | Redpill is dumb. Blackpill is truthThe natural world is a cruel place that punishes certain genes and rewards other genes. Women didn't create the natural world. Women didn't choose to have the standards they do. Them rejecting me is not their choice or anyone's choice. And I didn't choose to be born with my undesirable genetics either. I was born ugly, autistic, and with a speech impediment and no matter how much I work on my looks or my social skills I'll never be able to overcome my genetics. If someone is to blame it's the sa… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/08/23 05:39 AM |
| 6 | Redpill is dumb. Blackpill is truthWhen did I say the problem was women? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/08/23 05:22 AM |
| 1 | I’m a Black Stacy. AMAWhat makes you attracted to a man? Does that differ from your friends much? | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/08/23 10:46 PM |
| 1 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.I'd be interested to see what you think of the studies and if you have any of your own to reference. But at the moment the idea personally just doesn't make sense to me. Because if personality made someone more sexually attractive, then why don't heterosexual women have sex with women? It's not like certain personality traits are exclusive to men. Men and women are mostly average out to be the same personality wise. The way in which the sexes differ are physical traits, not personality traits. W… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 11:32 PM |
| 2 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.You are bisexual so I don't think your experience is really helpful for understanding the heterosexual female experience because like I said in the OP different sexualities have different preferencees. It also doesn't line up with my life experience at all. I have a friend who'll have women approach him at nightclubs and make out with him after a minute or two of talking to him every weekend - and these are nightclubs where you can barely hear what people are saying. And I have once in a blue mo… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 03:04 PM |
| 3 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.Lmao that's true but that's definetly not me, I do think women are pickier though and there is decent evidence for this but I don't think it goes to that extreme. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 11:35 AM |
| 1 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think. No, I'm not saying men or women need to have 100% of all possible secondary sexual characteristics to be considered sexually attractive. For example, women can still consider a short man, or a skinny man, or a man with a weak jaw and chin sexually attractive as long as he has plenty of other secondary sexual characteristics to compensate. Even the effeminate men that women claim to find attractive are still easily identifiable as men. Timothee Chamalat is often used as an example of an effemin… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 11:11 AM |
| 3 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.How is that anti-trans tho? | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 11:06 AM |
| 3 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.There are anomalies, life is a very random place. But an anomaly doesn't disprove a trend | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 10:54 AM |
| 5 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.It's funny because in my psychology class in school I had to write essays about blackpilled science kinda like this lol reviewing all the studies about the halo effect, female mating strategies, how they have higher standards than men due to egg production, how they select for tall muscular men with strong jaws and broad shoulders, pheromones, immune system matching, etc Incel science is just basic psychology | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 10:53 AM |
| 3 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.I think it plays zero part in raw visceral sexual attraction, not overall attraction. My point was that there's a distinction between sexual attraction and platonic attraction. So I agree that if I found two people to be equally sexually attractive, but one I found more platonically attractive then I'd choose them. But if neither of them met my sexual attractiveness threshold, then I'm not gonna choose any regardless of platonic attraction - I'd just want to be friends with them. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 10:38 AM |
| 4 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.There's a difference between cultural norms/gender roles, and actual foundational personality traits. You are right that conforming to cultural norms and gender roles is a big part in attraction. E.g. It's not like we're biologically hard-wired to find women wearing dresses more attractive than women in suits, it's just a cultural norm. But even then, I'd find a short woman in a suit more attractive than a tall woman in a dress. And I don't think stuff like that can be conflated with personality… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 10:34 AM |
| 3 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.That point is explained in the caveats: Don't conflate finding someone sexually attractive and wanting to date someone. Dating and romantic relationships as a whole involve a lot more than having sex, such as having a conversation with someone and when it comes to romance going on the journey of life with someone. In that sense, dating and romance requires two things: sexual attraction and platonic attraction. Whilst sexual attraction is entirely determined by physical appearance as I've previou… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 10:20 AM |
| 3 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.Lmaoo that sub is a clown's world | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 10:16 AM |
| 4 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.Stop pivoting. I just provided proof for my argument. Now it's your turn. Explain to me how personality is gendered. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 10:14 AM |
| 5 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.I thought bluepillers already believed that men and women had mostly similar personalities, guess bluepillers are more misogynistic than I thought. Men and Women: No Big Difference | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 10:08 AM |
| 5 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.Really? How so? I didn't even think of that lol | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 09:51 AM |
| 7 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.Ah, another one of your classic "you're wrong" and "too many words" arguments! Just as persuasive as ever, well done! Your debating skills are always top notch! | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 09:44 AM |
| 7 | I got banned from PPD for this post after they locked it, let's see what you guys think.You clearly didn't read this post at all, you just saw the flair and spit out a response like an AI, which seems to be the norm for you. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 09:40 AM |
| 7 | I actually got therapyThat's what my therapist told me aswell, albeit she did kinda try to push the idea initially by talking about how I shouldn't rely on external validation but rely on internal validation instead. But after a bit of back and forth she admitted that internal validation is really just internalized external validation. You need to have experienced a pattern of external validation in your past in order to actually feel internal validation. Because it really makes no sense to be confident in a thing th… | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/08/23 09:51 PM |
| 3 | I'm so fucking lonelyIf that's the issue it's a skill that I'm incapable of getting better at if working at it for so long and so hard doesn't change anything. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/08/23 07:04 PM |
| 2 | It's easy for womenI'm not obsessed with sex, in fact I hate it. But you are right that I'm obsessed with relationships, and who isn't? We're social animals. Wrong about what? I already know I'm obssessed with relationships? Need to change? You think I choose what I want in life? Don't you think that's a bit of a nonsensical paradox? I do all of that stuff + reddit because I work from home, I have had lots of downtime in my job for the past few months because that's the nature of my field of work + there's been so… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/08/23 04:55 PM |
| 13 | If there's one thing you wished Bluepillers and / or women could understand about you, what would it be?Bluepillers and women need to stop conflating hating women with feeling frustrated with constant rejection. For most incels/lonely men, the anger isn't towards women it's towards the world as a whole and the way it was designed to make it impossible for people like us to find happiness. It's not women's fault that they were born to not be attracted to sub 5 men, it's just an unfortunate reality that I'm excited at the prospect of leaving. Our anger is also pointed towards the people who try to d… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/08/23 04:41 PM |
| 7 | Man goes to bar, fails. Gets gaslightedThis is reddit. Most redditors hate bars and nightclubs, they have no idea what it's like at these places. Even women with boyfriends will go there to dance with, grind on, and makeout with chads just for a bit of fun. My friends will bring along so many girls who say they have boyfriends, yet I'll see them late in the night grinding on some 6 ft 3 chad. And obviously men with girlfriends will do the same thing. But in their mind it's not cheating because they didn't pass some arbitrary line tha… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/08/23 04:14 PM |
| 3 | I'm so fucking lonelyThere is no "kind" I have 0 standards. In terms of my approach, I just try to talk to them. I ask how their night's going, introduce myself, ask where they're from, just make small talk. Except most of the time I can tell within the first 10 to 20 seconds that they're not interested. They'll refuse to shake my hand even when I bring my hand forward, they won't make eye contact, they'll look super awkward, so I'll just tell them to have a good night and go back to my friends. There have been a ha… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/08/23 03:57 PM |
| 2 | It's easy for womenI already do all of that stuff. I lift weights, I compose music, I'm learning to play the piano, I draw, I paint, I'm writing a novel, I read novels, I play video games, I watch movies, I go to the cinema, but all of it feels hollow exept from lifitng weights because atleast that has the potential to maybe one day make me more attractive to women - doubt it'd make a difference though. Ngl, despite being an incel i acknowledge that I'm an attractive man, I'm 6 ft tall, whenever I look in the mirr… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/08/23 03:39 PM |
| 2 | It's easy for womenExactly finally someone who speaks like they've experienced it, that's my exact experience. They don't explicitly tell me to fuck off, i can just tell from body language you know? | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/08/23 04:27 AM |
| 1 | It's easy for womenNo I just make small talk but they make it very clear that they're not interested by body language so I cut the conversation short by telling them to have a good night and walking away | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 11:12 PM |
| 2 | It's easy for womenIts incredibly nerve wracking, especially if she's not eyeing me or giving me any signals that she's interested. I have to drink a lot to get the courage to do it, and even when I'm drunk I still feel the nerves. And despite what people say, you never get used to it. It's actually the opposite. The more I get rejected the more nervous I become. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:51 PM |
| 4 | It's easy for womenBare in mind I approached the 20 women spread out between 10pm and 6am across a variety of clubs. So I highly doubt that was even a factor | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:48 PM |
| 3 | It's easy for womenI went up to a woman at a nightclub, asked her how her night was going, introduced myself, and they'd just give off non verbal cues that they're uninterested so I'd just say have a good night and then walk off. Repeat 20 times. Each time only took 10 to 20 seconds for them to reject me | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:42 PM |
| 2 | "Gentle femdom" is a copefuel fantasy created by broken men who watch too much animeNope, Chad can get the gentle femdom if he wants. I have a Chad co worker super sporty, tall and muscular guy, and he told me how he's been able to convince every woman he's ever been with to do the gentle femdom roleplay to the point where they call themselves his mommy in third person and everything lmaoo He's also able to get away with liking anime and playing nerdy video games like dark souls and Skyrim. Chad can do what he wants | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 03:23 PM |
| 3 | It's easy for womenThanks for the offer man I'll have a think about it I do have lots of creative hobbies but i find it hard to feel fulfilled by them, my sense of accomplishment is nothing compared to the loneliness. But maybe it's time to try and re invest more energy into them | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 12:26 PM |
| 6 | I'm so fucking lonelyThanks man, I put in no effort people call me lazy, I put in effort and they shame me for that aswell. There's no winning | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 11:57 AM |
| 1 | It's easy for womenI can't think of any alternatives either and I feel like it's healthier than staying at home alone | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 11:17 AM |
| 3 | I'm so fucking lonelyHow can you be so experienced with nightclubs yet think people don't talk to strangers there? It's not even just sleazy old men approaching women, even women will approach one of my friends all the time, and even I, once in an ultra rare blue moon lucked out and got approached. I see women approach very frequently. And it's even common to start chatting to men or even women platonically and make friends (not very close friends but still something), and women especially befriend other women there… | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:47 AM |
| 3 | It's easy for womenWhat else is there that doesn't feel hollow? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:38 AM |
| 1 | I'm so fucking lonelyLike what? Cut off my friends and stay at home? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:36 AM |
| 2 | It's easy for womenJust because I'm venting my emotions about a failure doesn't mean I'm "playing victim". I'm literally trying to solve the problem and I'm gonna keep trying I'm gonna go clubbing next weekend, putting more effort into it than most, you're the one telling me to stop trying - that would be playing victim | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:35 AM |
| 3 | I'm so fucking lonelyAre you experienced with the nightclub scene? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:32 AM |
| 3 | I'm so fucking lonelyWaking up every day thinking that my efforts might bare fruit | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:29 AM |
| 4 | It's easy for womenIm sad because I'm trash. Do you not understand how emotions work? How is doing something a lot not putting in effort? Huh? I'm complaining about my lack of success and how worthless people view me. Am I not allowed to complain anymore? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:28 AM |
| 5 | I'm so fucking lonelyHow am I supposed to know them before I talk to them? So the women all around me at the club making out with men, grinding on them, and giggling as my friends approach them all secretly just hate the men they're interacting with? Huh? Why are you framing it like that? You're framing it as if I'm expecting them to provide me a service for free. Why are you framing relationships like slavery? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:25 AM |
| 6 | It's easy for womenMy friends succeed more than I do most men at the club do, but I dont because Im trash. I'm not calling what I'm doing befriending, I'm saying more broadly in any social situation you simply don't know anyone until you approach them and talk to them | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:18 AM |
| 4 | I'm so fucking lonelyBecause they usually succeed before they try as many times as I do. How can I have interest in someone I don't know? What would you call it when someone doesn't want to talk to you? Ideally for the same reason I'm approaching them - humans are social animals and enjoy eachother company, the issue is they dont enjoy it with trash like me. If I only approach if I think if I think I'd succeed then I never would. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:14 AM |
| 8 | It's easy for womenI can't turn invisible to you, sorry you have to make you endure seeejng me exist. Uh, whenever you make an effort to befriend anyone you don't know anything about them beyond what you see, what am I supposed to do? Read their mind? No shit I have no charm. I expected to succeed like my friends do and how most other men do and how I sometimes do when I get lucky 1/100 times. But I didn't last night. Don't know why you hate me so much other than being an unsuccessful man. My failures hurt no one … | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:08 AM |
| 8 | I'm so fucking lonelyYou think people don't approach eachother at nightclubs? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:04 AM |
| 9 | I'm so fucking lonelyI wonder where the depression comes from? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 10:04 AM |
| 5 | I'm so fucking lonelyYeah famous people rizz doesn't apply to commoners | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:56 AM |
| 6 | I'm so fucking lonelyIt's so fu king funny when you say it but that's legit the blue pill mindset. They abd I used to think developing skills in irrelevant areas of life would help like a fuckhv jester but it dies nothing. All that matters are the physical traits u r born with a nd whether you are neurotypical | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:54 AM |
| 5 | It's easy for womenNot being loved by anyone is the cause of the suicidality a therapist can't help me sit that which is why she told me to fuck off | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:42 AM |
| 5 | I'm not going intentionally to kill myself but I'm done with self preservation.I get matched on dating apps and then they politely ghosted me. In real life I get laughed at. Real life is more ruthless than dating apps | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:33 AM |
| 11 | It's easy for womenSuicide might work, do t you think k? Maybe if I hang myself people will write sob story articles about me e and finally pay bc attention to I me and show me e sympathy | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:30 AM |
| 9 | It's easy for womenAlready have spent thousands on a therapist. She told me she can't help me | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:21 AM |
| 6 | It's easy for womenFriends who ignore me the second they pull a girl,they only hang out with me so they don't look awkward dancing alone at a club. Only two uf jy friends are somewhat genuine and and they barely come on nights or because they're cool people with other friends and other things going on in their lives | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:21 AM |
| 8 | It's easy for womenI've fished way too much. My self esteem has been fucked way too much Thesx k hope for me | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:19 AM |
| 11 | It's easy for womenReal life is Soo much worse on tinder. Atleast on tinder I get Natchez fibhng me the illusion that I am possible to be liked by women, but real life proves to be that the reason why none of my matches turn into datexus because women are repulsed by my presence | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:19 AM |
| 5 | It's easy for womenWhat other place is there? As you said a therapist won't get me laid, it wo t get me a relationship it will get me nothing except emptying my bank account. I spent thousands on therapy and she told me to tuck off there's nowhere for me in this world except the bottom of a drink or within a noose | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:17 AM |
| 1 | It's easy for womenAtleast men kiss them passionately. Women want nothing to do with me I revolting to them | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:15 AM |
| 5 | It's easy for womenWhat should I do then? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:14 AM |
| 7 | It's easy for womenIt's not hard when each approach lands with me getting rejected in the first 10 seconds. 20 women is only 200 seconds | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:13 AM |
| 6 | It's easy for womenI go up to them, ask how their nights going, introduce myself etc ideally I'll waitfkr them to show me signals like looking at me alir me genetic calamities like me don't have that luxury | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:12 AM |
| 6 | It's easy for womenFacts. I've gpt a bed sheet tied in the shape of a book like Robbie Williams dud it, all I need to do it trap it between a hotel doorway and door and wrap it around my neck. Once I get rejected enough and get enough courage all the pain Will vanish soon, that'sy only hope | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 05:08 AM |
| 1 | It's easy for womenThey're drunk they'd enthusiasticly kiss a fucking tree trunk yet they kiss me hesitantly | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 03:21 AM |
| 6 | It's easy for womenLike what? I find video game boring. The only thing that helps distract me isrwsearching suicide techniques | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 02:51 AM |
| 6 | It's easy for womenI've already tried therapy aswell she told me to fucking finds another therapist because she thought she couldn't help me. Where can I go other than clubs? t least at clubs I can experience the illusion of love by getting kissed by drunk women | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 02:50 AM |
| 3 | It's easy for womenTrue that's the plot way I've held ha dz with a girl and got a first kiss, a drunk woman didn't want to third wheel and escaped it by agreeing to my approach | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 02:09 AM |
| 5 | It's easy for womenI do it every weekend. Not hard when every approach is 10 seconds, they reject me e that quickly | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/08/23 02:07 AM |
| 13 | Women do approachJesus Christ, so you clearly didn't even look at the links that I pasted to you in the other argument? What about how you've conducted yourself so far would make me take you seriously? You've not stated a single affirmative claim. You said that there were apparently endless scientific studies to prove your point (again I don't know what your point is or was), but I'm yet to see any links of your own other than fucking pornography (you've not even referenced any specific videos, atleast do that m… | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 03:00 PM |
| 9 | Women do approachCheck on the other post, I'm not pasting them in again. Or preferably leave me alone if ur not willing to debate | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Unpopular Opinion: I do think the blackpill will get more popular the way western society is headed.I certainly don't believe that, I've never seen any of my white friends pull Asian women in my life, they're always the hardest to attract probably due to their more conservative and puritan values | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 02:44 PM |
| 12 | Women do approachThe fact that you think watching random porn videos is a more valid source of evidence than the several scientific studies I linked to you, and I can link many more if you want, tells me that you're trolling and have no desire to debate. Maybe if you referenced a study that noted trends across hundreds of porn videos (preferably thousands) then I'd take you a little bit more seriously ,but right now you're just being silly | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 02:43 PM |
| 14 | Women do approachWhy are you on a debate sub if you're not even gonna try and debate beyond stating that you disagree with me for reasons I've yet to hear | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Unpopular Opinion: I do think the blackpill will get more popular the way western society is headed.Fair enough just means we're running out of time for geomaxxing lol | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 02:34 PM |
| 17 | Women do approachNah I'd rather just look at the science instead of cherry picking pornos | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 02:32 PM |
| 6 | I don’t think enough attention is given to how much of a difference makeup makes in a woman’s appearance and how it is socially acceptable for women to essentially reap enormous privilege by wearing a fucking disguise"Men can wear makeup too" is the dumbest thing in the world. Masculine and feminine beauty are two different things. And the issue is that all current makeup tools and techniques have been designed to make people more feminine. None of it can make you look more masculine or emphasize any of your masculine features because we aren't the target audience. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Unpopular Opinion: I do think the blackpill will get more popular the way western society is headed.Also the average height of people is increasing each generation, so the outliers who are born shorter than average will be even more screwed than they are now. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 01:26 PM |
| 2 | Unpopular Opinion: I do think the blackpill will get more popular the way western society is headed.VR AI GFs with haptic suits will give lonely bluepill men an excuse to stop coping, face reality, go blackpill, give up, and satiate their desires by putting on a haptic suit, putting on their Oculus and fucking virtual AI women in Zuckerberg's metaverse lmaoo | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 01:25 PM |
| 1 | How accurate is incels.wiki?It's funny because most of the studies it references are things I learned in the first week in the relationship section of my psychology course. It's common knowledge in the psychological field that women are sexually attracted to wealthy, tall and muscular men with broad shoulders, narrow hips, and strong jaws and their mate selection strategy tends to be pickier than men's. But If I say that in public everyone would think i'm a misogynistic monster. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 01:19 PM |
| 7 | How easy it is to be a womanBlue pill disorder | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 12:55 PM |
| 7 | Men who don't approach women aren't cowards. They're just not clowns.I have a chad friend. He's super shy. He's never asked a girl out in his life. Yet every night out, women come for him. And sometimes women from previous weekends will come running up to me asking me, "where's [chad] at," super angrily, just for me to lead her to him and she'll see him making out with some other girl. It's fucking brutal having a chad friend | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 10:26 AM |
| 1 | It's really not that complicated.Where have I been hypocritical? | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 10:18 AM |
| 4 | It's really not that complicated.If a man said, "I struggle with dating because I'm 5 ft 4, skinny, and ugly," what would you say? Would you believe him that his struggles with dating are because of his physical traits? Or would you assume that he was wrong and that his personality is just shitty/doesn't have enough self esteem because even people in the extremes with literally no jaws can get laid? | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 07:59 PM |
| 4 | It's really not that complicated.You’re going to the extreme This is an extreme case. If you’re a 4/10, your personality can make you a 5-6/10. Physical attraction and platonic attraction are two different things that don't merge. They are both required to be rated highly in order to want to date someone, but one doesn't cause the other, except looks can increase platonic attraction ratings. Because as I explained platonic attraction isn't gendered or sexual, I have a strong platonic attraction for my male friends but no matter… | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 06:35 PM |
| 3 | It's really not that complicated.physical arousal mental arousal When it comes to studies like this you need to be careful with your words. For example, if someone puts a glock to my head then I will be physically aroused (my sympathetic nervous system would activate) and mentally aroused (parts of my brain associated with fear/stress like the amygdala would show increased activity) - i.e. I'll be scared, but that's different from being sexually aroused. And how are they measuring physical arousal? For example, I've seen studie… | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 06:10 PM |
| 3 | It's really not that complicated.Maybe not to the extreme of getting a boner or getting wet just from seeing someone, but yeah you're generally right. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 03:59 PM |
| 3 | It's really not that complicated.Sexuality is what you're sexually attracted to and aroused by. So for example I'm a heterosexual man so I'm sexually attracted to and aroused by women. Attraction is a broader term that could encompass platonic attraction, romantic attraction aswell as sexual attraction. What's your point? And where are the studies you wanted to point me to by the way? | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 03:54 PM |
| 2 | It's really not that complicated.Yes, that makes sense. Personality traits matter, but you also need to find that person physically attractive. Which means that if a man struggles to get dates and he says he thinks it's because he has a weak jawline and is 5 ft 4, would you assume he's telling the truth? Or would you assume he's lying and it's actually because he is a shitty human being with a piece of shit personality? | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 03:42 PM |
| 6 | It's really not that complicated.I assume you won’t find your trans guy friend attractive cuz he’s a guy and you are heterosexual He's not really a guy, he's biologically a woman, but I don't find him attractive because he doesn't look like a woman. There are certain physical secondary sexual characteristics that determine attraction like height, musculature, shoulder width, hip width, facial hair, shape of jaw, voice pitch, etc. that no amount of personality can compensate for. If a woman is taller than me, more muscular than … | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 03:26 PM |
| 1 | It's really not that complicated.Even looks are actually a lot less superficial than people downplay it as Exactly. Looks are one of the deepest and most fundamental aspects of the human condition. They effect every facet of your life due to the halo effect. Even if you think you're selecting for intelligence, optimism, kindness, wealth, physical health, mental health, etc. all of those things are not only percieved to correlate with looks (e.g. people overrate the intelligence of people who look good), but actually correlate w… | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 02:18 PM |
| 3 | It's really not that complicated.If you’re hot, you will have an easier time getting first dates We're talking about incels who haven't held a woman's hand before. "Maintaing a relationship" is irrelevant. attraction is not a light switch that’s either on or off and can increase or decrease depending on behavior and personality I'm a heterosexual man. Hypothetically imagine that I have a trans-male friend - so they're biologically a woman, but they through gender reassignment surgery look like a man. Hypothetically imagine that… | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 01:48 PM |
| 7 | It's really not that complicated.Like how: Women want taller men more than men want shorter women Women preferred large jaws in men. Women rate muscular men as sexier Men's Looks Matter More Than Women Admit | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 01:34 PM |
| 3 | It's really not that complicated.You could also rewrite your comment to say: "I think women are complex and mystical angels with sexualities that only a select few of the most intelligent men are able to understand, whereas men are simple and debauched beasts who only want one thing and it's disgusting (but I also want to pretend to be a feminist by saying that men and women are equal and the same I hope no one notices my constant contradictions!)" | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 01:12 PM |
| 7 | It's really not that complicated.Bluepillers ultimately just want to argue whatever they think will make lonely men feel the worst even at the cost of rationality. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 12:48 PM |
| 9 | It's really not that complicated.Lmfao no one is saying that. Men: I struggle with dating because I don't look attractive. Bluepill Women: No, I know plenty of ugly men who get laid. I wasn't attracted to my bf when I first got to know but he was gentle, sweet, and emotionally vulnerable and so I fell in love with him! You must struggle with dating because you're an evil person. Men: So looks don't matter? Bluepill Women: Who's saying looks don't matter! I never said that! I can't imagine dating a guy who isn't physically attra… | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/08/23 12:13 PM |
| 1 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesOk maybw I'm not a virgin but I am in the bottom rungs of the food chain. I'm still a generic calamity | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 11:31 PM |
| 7 | “Just get off incel forums broo”You think he - a person you don't know - wanted to kill women because...? | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 06:34 PM |
| 2 | It’s crazy how even women well past their prime think they can still afford to be picky, sometimes even more so than genuinely desirable womenThey do have options. Every time I go clubbing I see young men approaching middle aged women all the time. My shortcel friend has given up on women in their 20s, women his own age, and goes for middle aged obese women all the time and they always reject him. Another friend of mind nearly got into a fight with a guy when he approached this obese 30 yr old woman and another young guy tried hitting on her. I met a 30 year old obese woman and she showed me her onlyfans. She makes thousands a month f… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Why don't yall all go have sex?I go clubbing every weekend from 10PM to 6AM. Each weekend I approach a minimum of 20 women from a variety of clubs in my city. I'm on Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge. I've bought boosts and premium for all of them temporarily a few times. I go to a dancing class every week. I go to meetups. I go to every social event and conference I have the oppurtunity to go to as part of my jobs, trying to chat up women even there. I'm still an incel. I always will be an incel. The closest I got was a shitty ONS t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 11:31 AM |
| 20 | “Just get off incel forums broo”I went to a mental health support group one time. I never really truly opened up about my issues to the people there I'd just say, "I feel sad sometimes but I don't know why," even though I knew fully well it was because I'm a lonely incel. I felt kinda bad about lying to them all... ....that was until this new guy joined the group. The guy opened up to one person at this group about he was super lonely, had difficulties with dating, and was therefore an incel. This was a private one on one conv… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 10:10 AM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesThose are a tiny minority of all incels. Of course I don't say or do those things. And as I provided evidence for in my post incels are actually less likely to say and do those things than the average person. I'm exactly the same as you a 22 yr old virgin (except I had a shitty ONS I regret but I don't count that it was terrible I got a fucking STD from it). So we're both incels. Incel just means involuntary celibate. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 07:43 AM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesJust took a look at that study. Interesting but remember that study is based on a modest sample (2700 peeps) of specifically Spanish adolescents. It absolutely DOES suggest that sexism doesn't prevent someone from getting laid, but beliefs about benevolent sexism (which can motivate liberal/permissive attitudes towards women) are also positively correlated with sexual success. I think 2700 is a perfectly sufficient sample size, especially on a topic such as this that rarely gets researched at al… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 03:21 PM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesIt's amazing, because my beliefs just get reinforced with each of his comments, it's great to see my theory in action. Everyone in this comment thread are literal Genghis Khan apolgists. I posted this on another subreddit and someone else was trying to be an Alexander the Great apologist. These are men who murdered their way to the top of the social hierarchy. According to any sane ethical system they're horrid beasts. Yet people will bend over backwards to try to morally justify/apologize their… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 03:14 PM |
| 4 | I have a medical condition that prevents me to go to the gym"Why lift when it's all about the face?" Francisco Lachowski - a Brazillian model on why he doesn't try to bulk up. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesWhat do you call the three links at the top of my post? | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 02:43 PM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesIt's not a delusion if I have evidence | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 02:41 PM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesYes, but they're more likely to be saints | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesWhat do you think of the evidence I provided that shows they are less likely to be evil? | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 02:02 PM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesWhy would an incel be more likely to turn evil than anyone else? Again, I provided evidence that being an incel makes you less likely to be psychopathic and misogynistic. Don't run away, finish the sentence: If evil people are more likely to get sex, then that means people who don't have sex are... | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 12:21 PM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesI admit it is a cope, but I'm not wrong. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 12:07 PM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesYou're still misquoting me. I didn't say that Ghenghis Khan was a good person. I said he did both good and bad actions. Which do you think outweighs the other? Or do you think they're of equal weighting? Were you there with Ghenghis when he made the postal system or just pulling things out of your ass? That's what it reads as. I'm looking at it as innovation and laying the groundwork to help Mongolia as a nation to advance. I'm curious to see the evidence you have the postal system was strictly … | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 12:03 PM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesIf people are inherently violent then why is there world peace There isn't world peace. There's a war in Ukraine and many other countries. There's an ongoing genocide Myanmar, Sudan, and many other countries. There were two world wars in the 1900s and the endless numbers of wars and genocides throughout human history. The only reason why the world's superpowers like the US, Russia, China, etc aren't in direct war with eachother (but arguably in proxy wars, some would say the cold war never ended… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesI didn't bother reading your post I think that sums up the entire comment section. Which actually proves my entire point. Normies and chads are incapable of empathizing with anything that might contradict with the tenets of the hive mind. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 11:32 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesI’m sorry but if you can’t reply in a logical manner then I don’t have much to say. I was talking in general, not just about incles. Just because you don't understand what I'm saying doesn't mean I'm being illogical. I don’t understand why you go on about the us government and then mention a # which holds no value. Because I'm telling you that even mainstream circles that are admired and renowned in society advocate for violence against people - such as governmental organizations like the US gov… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 11:30 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesGiving in to ressentiment and advocating for the abolition of the individual rights of women is NOT a morally good thing. That said, not all incels do this. It's not just that. Incels are less likely to advocate for that than the average person as evidenced by the second link that I post. But are incels cruel, malicious, sadistic people by nature? Incels are actually less likely to be that way compared to the average person. And humans are NOT an evil species. That isn't really my point. My poin… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 11:25 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesIncels are less likely to be evil. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 11:18 AM |
| 4 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesthere’s some really toxic groups out there that talk about acts of violence against people. Like what? The US Government? Human beings are violent regardless of what group you go to. But violence and misogyny is less prevelant in incel circles evidenced by the links I shared in the post. such as blaming a gender for your struggles Yes, of course, so terrible for incels to do this, but anyway #allmenaretrash or you know violence Give me evidence that the majority of lonely men are committing viol… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 11:17 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesOk, maybe they don't get "love" and only get sex, but incels don't get sex. If evil people are more likely to get sex, then that means incels (people who don't get sex) are... | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 11:11 AM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesOk, I'm sorry for disrespecting Genghis Khan. A mass-murderer and mass-rapist like him deserves the utmost respect of course, sorry for thinking otherwise. I'll make sure to pray to him in a few minutes to apologize to such a great man. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:59 AM |
| 7 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesOh no nothing more terrifying than lonely men talking to eachother about their struggles. We just need to bottle it up inside and never talk to anyone about it ever! You say that as if it's unique to us. Toxic ideas are spread everywhere whether it be mainstream circle or niche circles. Evil people are evil lol Could it be that toxic people are toxic and toxic people exist in every circle? | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:57 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesIt does when the rest of the group rejoices in their actions and admires them for it What makes you think most lonely men admire school shooters? What the fuck? I already linked how misogyny is correlated with sexual success. It's the normies in the comments who are the ones trying to morally justify Genghis Khan committing mass-murder and mass-rape. It’s not social success though, it’s just wealth and power which can sometimes attract people but only thought that wish exploit you Misogynistic p… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:54 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesOk, you know what fine! Let's assume that I was wrong and that specific quote was made up by someone else and Genghis Khan didn't enjoy killing others but felt super sad about it but felt that it was nessecary for him to gain power and success. You win that specific argument blah blah bhal Now explain to me how his mass-rape mass-murder can be morally justified. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:48 AM |
| 6 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesIn what way? | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:45 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesJust because a few people in a large group does a bad thing doesn't mean you can attribute that bad thing to the entire group. That's not a trend. What is a trend is the studies I linked in my post. It clearly doesn't if dark triad traits predict social success. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:43 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesWe'll have to agree to disagree then. If you found out a child rapist saved a cat from a tree one time, would you think that child rapist was a good person? Yeah no. Pointing out that historical figures had two sides does not equal loving them. Making such a silly statement is not very morally pure of you. It's pretty messed up. I acknowledge that Genghis Khan did good things, I'm just saying that it doesn't compensate for the evil things he did, therefore still making him an overall evil person… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:40 AM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesYou're projecting, you're the one pivoting to generalities. But if you want to do that, that's fine: Answer me this: do you think Genghis Khan was a good person? | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:31 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesAs I said, Ghenghis is not one or the other. He did things that fit under what most would consider good and bad. Yes, everyone does good and bad things. But some people do more bad things than good to the point that their good deeds don't matter. Did Ghenghis kill you in your past life or something? You have a huge hate boner for the guy. I don't think a morally pure person would get this worked up. No, I just have a strong sense of justice compared to morally void people like you trying to make… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:29 AM |
| 3 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesGive me evidence of that. I already linked in my post showing how successful people tend to be more psychopathic and violent, thus implying less successful people are more empathetic and kind. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:22 AM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesHe gained happiness from being powerful because that power gave him the ability to hurt others. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 10:20 AM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesAh, that's ok. It's ok for him to invade a city, order his soldiers to rape all the women and girls, murder all the men and boys, loot all of their homes, etc. That's ok, because he invented the Mongol postal system. That compensates for all of the suffering he inflicted on the world. It's all ok. All is forgiven. /s Your sense of morality is genuinely fucked if you think that creating a fucking postal system and writing system, that exists to make his Empire that gives him wealth more powerful … | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 09:57 AM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesElaborate. Do you think he was a stand up guy then? Do you think his "legacy" of mass-rape and mass-murder to be something to praise and admire? | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 09:49 AM |
| 2 | Incels are the most morally pure members of the human speciesThat's false. Give me evidence of that. Chads are actually more misogynistic than incels. And bear in mind, most normies wish death upon others. I mean, who are the ones who have been waging all the wars throughout human history? They've been normies and chads. You don't see incels getting into positions of power. If they did they'd be kind and gentle, but that's exactly why they never will get into positions of power. Psychopathic chads would dominate them and bully them and ruin them, adding t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 09:41 AM |
| 1 | i have one question, men who say women have low self esteem and are insecure, are you stupid?!One problem was, at the time, rating someone above average automatically triggered a “like” and rating them one was the equivalent of a “pass,” so it wasn’t a pure rating of attractiveness. I don't see why this matters. Why would it cause a gender difference if the apps works in this way the same for both men and women? Second, “attractive” means different things to straight men and straight women. For men, it usually means “I could convince myself to stick it in.” That’s it. It’s a binary of wo… | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 09:04 AM |
| 1 | i have one question, men who say women have low self esteem and are insecure, are you stupid?!Ok well we can look at the data then. OkCupid found that when people were asked to rate the attractiveness of people of the opposite gender, men felt that 50% of women were below average in attractiveness whereas women felt that 80% of men were below average in attractiveness | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Incels are some of the best people on planetDoesn't the study say, "Sexual experience (both coital and non-coital) is linked to a greater degree of hostile and benevolent sexist beliefs, but only within the male group. In males, greater benevolent sexism is linked to vaginal sex initiation at an earlier age." Therefore wouldn't people who have less sexual experience (incels) be less likely to be less misogynistic? | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Incels are some of the best people on planetWouldn't violence towards women naturally follow on from misogyny? I mean, isn't violence towards women by definition a misogynistic act? | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 08:44 PM |
| 1 | i have one question, men who say women have low self esteem and are insecure, are you stupid?!Where's the disagreement? You just said you're attracted to quite a lot of women you see. That's not the case for women, they're only attracted to a small minority of the overall male population. And yes, for both men and women the attraction will fade over time, but atleast by then you got your foot in the door. At that point it's just down to personality/relationship skills. But the thing is with men is that it's incredibly difficult for us to initially get our foot in the door, but for women … | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 08:38 PM |
| 3 | What is even happening nowadays? No matter how carefully a dude words things, no matter how tame the subject matter.. it never fails, YTA if you even mildly insinuate certain obvious things.Ah, love a bit of misandry to wake myself up in the morning, thanks for sharing the link | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 10:04 AM |
| 6 | Incels are some of the best people on planetThis a myth. Incels aren't dangerous. Chads are more misogynistic. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Real life is worse than dating appsMost women aren't on dating apps because women usually delete their dating apps when they find someone, and then re-download it when they're single again (which will be for a week max). So at any given time when these apps look at their user analytics, yeah, there aren't many women on the app. But in the grand scheme of things there are a lot more women using the app than you might think. It's just that all of the women with match with chad, go on a date with him, delete the app, he doesn't comm… | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 08:54 AM |
| 2 | Real life is worse than dating appsReal life plain and simply isn't easier. Even my shortcel friend who's 5 ft 6 can get dates from dating apps but in real life literal obese women reject the guy. I have a 6 ft 3 friend from work who looks like a hollywood actor, has a jawline sculpted from the Gods, is super well spoken, intelligent, etc. and he was talking to me how he finds it difficult to chat up girls in real life. The one time I saw him trying to rizz up a girl irl she started shouting at him, calling him a pervert just bec… | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 08:51 AM |
| 2 | Real life is worse than dating appsYou don't need to be young. There are still 40 year old women making millions on onlyfans getting flown out to Dubai to fuck billionaires at the Burj Khalifa. The only requirement is having a healthy BMI | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 08:44 AM |
| 1 | Real life is worse than dating appsNot really. I've met lots of chads and stacies who use dating apps as well as their real life social networks. There was even a stacy my chad friend was trying to rizz up who screenshotted by tinder profile after she found me on there, sent it to my friend to laugh at me lmao I never found her profile though so obviously she left swiped me | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 08:43 AM |
| 1 | i have one question, men who say women have low self esteem and are insecure, are you stupid?!Of course both men and women experience it, except for men we feel that way towards a larger percentage of women. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 08:39 PM |
| 2 | Real life is worse than dating appsThe people there are actually delusional. A woman said that the only physical trait that mattered is if he had a penis... she said she'd be happy to date a trans woman with a penis and said all heterosexual women would feel the same... it's a clown's world over on that sub. They'll literally pretend that they'd be willing to fuck a trans woman with a penis before they admit that they're attracted to tall and muscular men lmaoo | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 08:02 PM |
| 2 | Real life is worse than dating appsEven then, all the women will usually take turns fucking and dating the top guys in the group. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Real life is worse than dating appsI live in the US. It's strange, but I've noticed that whenever I approach a woman and she's friendly, chatty, and laughs at my jokes, she always ends up having a boyfriend, she thinks I'm too young for her, or she's just not into me. But whenever I'm able to pull, the women are usually quite closed off, reserved, and having a conversation with them is like pushing a boulder up a cliff - they just make no effort to verbally interact. Obviously there are many times when women will be reserved, qui… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 07:58 PM |
| 3 | Real life is worse than dating appsCan't, I got banned for saying heterosexual women find people who look like men sexually attractive, apparently that was too blackpill lmaooo | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Simping is out of control.I feel like looks standards would be even worse in other countries. In other countries, yes the women will be slim, but the men will be aswell. There'll even be a lot of muscular men due to a higher percentage of men working in manual labour and playing outdoor sports instead of video games since a child. Women will have higher looks standards in those countries. The only way geomaxxing helps is in terms of wealth, since women in those countries would have lower salary standards. Which is actual… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 03:35 PM |
| 1 | i have one question, men who say women have low self esteem and are insecure, are you stupid?!Women do have low self esteem, low self esteem when it comes to interacting with chads. Obviously women are super confident when interacting with average men, but when it comes to chads that's when they get nervous, start judging their appearance, get insecure, feel they aren't good enough, start complaining about beauty standards, etc. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Real life is worse than dating apps5% is 1/20, which means of every 20 people you meet one of them will be a chad. That's not that crazy, especially because chads are usually friends with everyone. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 03:21 PM |
| 5 | Real life is worse than dating appsBut the worst thing for me is that on dating apps you can pretend that all men are just as unsuccessful as you because you don't see how successful the chads are. In real life you're forced to witness and recognize just how successful some men are. When you get rejected by a girl, just so see her make out with another guy taller, whiter, and more muscular than you five minutes later, getting black-pilled is an inevitability. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 03:20 PM |
| 5 | Women: Uhh just be a nice guy and shower! Women dont care about height! Also women when they see richard ramirez, neurotic raper and murderer of 9 year olds who slept in a graveyard, smelled like shit, and had black, rotten teeth:I don't think I'll be able to find the exact one but if you go on kindle and type in "viking romance" you'll find tons of novels that might aswell be the same thing. Like I just found one that's called, "His Viking Captive (Saxons of Hyrstow Book 1)" this is the blurb: "Taken by her enemy… Yrsa Arkyndóttir has sworn a blood oath to avenge her father’s death, but when her clan’s Viking raid fails, Yrsa is taken captive by the rugged Saxon chieftain, Ridley. Injured, Yrsa knows she must escape tho… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Real life is worse than dating appsI do get invited to parties and stuff because of him. The girl I had a ONS with was actually a girl that approached him first, backed off from him because he was with another girl, and then I swooped in lol Chads, even the shy ones, are literal chick magnets. Take them to a nightclub and women will swarm him, then regular men like me can pick up the leftovers. Except your right, sometimes real brutal things can happen. Like one time at a nightclub there was this girl who was looking over at my f… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 02:03 PM |
| 8 | Real life is worse than dating appsWhy wouldn't I? | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 01:51 PM |
| 10 | Chad told her she's not beautifulWhen women talk about men having unrealistic beauty standards, they aren't talking about us. We have low and healthy standards. But they don't care. When they mean "men" they don't mean us, they mean "chad". And "chad" is obviously in the top 1% of men, so they expect women to be of that calibre aswell if they're gonna do anything more than pump and dump her. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 01:46 PM |
| 0 | Why don't all you young guy having problems just with older women until you can level up?Older women want older men. Women are incapable of feeling attracted to younger men. Women want men who can lead them. I've approached older women before at bars and clubs, they'll initially be into me, but as soon as I say how old I am they'll be shocked, disappointed and suddenly lose interest. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Men are losing the dating game because men value romance and sex with women more than women value romance and sex with men.Men naturally have a stronger sex drive than women. That's what testosterone does. I bet even after WW1 when women were dating short men, she'd still expect the short man to approach and pay for the date and plan the date and initiate everything and escalate everything and then be the one to propose, etc. Women would still demand men to do all the heavy lifting in the dating and relationship because even then women just didn't care as much about men as men do about women. And that will never cha… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 01:34 PM |
| 13 | Women: Uhh just be a nice guy and shower! Women dont care about height! Also women when they see richard ramirez, neurotic raper and murderer of 9 year olds who slept in a graveyard, smelled like shit, and had black, rotten teeth:Just look at erotica novels made by women for women. Those are the most black-pilling things ever. I read one that was about a peasant woman who's village was raided and pillaged by vikings. This viking killed her entire family and enslaved her. And the whole story was about this woman feeling conflicted about her raw lust for this mass-murdering hunk viking, and her morality and hatred of this evil man. Of course, the story ends with her falling in love with him and him aggressively fucking her… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 01:16 PM |
| 0 | Simping is out of control.A slim woman is actually significantly above average and quite rare to see though. 40% of people are obese, 30% are overweight. Which means any woman who isn't overweight or obese is in the top 30% of women. Adding onto that blonde hair and blue eyes and being Swedish, then yeah I'm not suprised everyone would go crazy for her. 100 years ago when obesity was barely even a thing? Then I'd understand your suprise. But in this day and age nearly everyone is fucking ugly. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 01:12 PM |
| 2 | What percentage of men are getting interest from the women they ACTUALLY DESIRE?I matched with her on Tinder and sent the first message so yes. Tbh she looked a lot better in her photos, she's very good at taking pictures that hide her double chin. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/08/23 12:56 PM |
| 3 | What percentage of men are getting interest from the women they ACTUALLY DESIRE?The last woman I went on a date with was clinically obese, unemployed, an alcoholic, had a cocaine addiction, kept saying that she was crazy, she was a massive fan of incest anime like Yosuga no Sora, and said she bricked the houses of her exes. She's the one who dumped me because she was moving to a different city, even though I'd be fully prepared to travel over to her. And btw I'm 6 ft tall, slim, 85kg, 12% body fat - so no it's not a looksmatch. I take whatever the fuck I can get because I'd… | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/08/23 12:03 PM |
| 2 | Chads, women and normies tell ugly men to build happiness within themselves but can't go a year outside of relationships.It's not a coincidence that every movie, every TV show, every novel, every song, every painting, every play, every poem, every work of art - everything is in some way related to romance and marriage. It's impossible to escape. Couples are even financially better off because they're able to sleep in the same bed, share a room, and split the rent between eachother. Yet people think that I should, "learn to be happy alone"? Fuck. Off. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/08/23 11:50 AM |
| 1 | purplepilldebate bannedSame lol I say serves them right | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/08/23 12:08 AM |
| 2 | purplepilldebate bannedTrue I got banned today for saying that heterosexual women were attracted to people who look like men lmaooo the mods on that sub were living in a fantasy land | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/08/23 12:07 AM |
| 3 | Approaching women is a humiliation ritual that only psychopaths can win long runThe world, our cultures, our countries, our religions, our social norms - all of it are made by monsters and exclusively rewards the most monstrous. Psychopathic men are more attractive to women Misogynistic men have more sexual experience There's 3 times as many psychopaths in CEO or Executive business positions than there are in the overall population. We've been evolutionarily designed to be the most brutal and violent organisms on the planet. Why wouldn't bullies be desired by society? Why w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 08:34 PM |
| 6 | Approaching women is a humiliation ritual that only psychopaths can win long runThe humiliation of rejection hurts a lot less than dying alone. As average to below average looking men, we have no choice but to endure the suffering or give up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 07:59 PM |
| 0 | Q4M - an average looking girl is DESPERATE to date you. How do you feel about it?It'd be a dream come true. Which would make me worry that she's faking it and instead trying to harvest my organs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Why Men Are Resentful of The Way Women's Sexuality (Often) WorksMaybe it does change in different contexts, but the cause of the change is context not gender. The first study I showed you showed that mens and womens brains had the same brain activity when looking at sexual stimuli. Women don't need the emotional build up of an erotic romance novel to feel aroused, the emotional build up is just used as a cloak to hide her sexuality because she lives in a patriarchal society that currently and historically shames her sexual urges whilst praising her facade of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 12:59 AM |
| 8 | Why Men Are Resentful of The Way Women's Sexuality (Often) WorksShe dated him for multiple months afterwards so it wasn't just a drunken hookup. Ive hung out with them many times and I still make her laugh way more than he does lol. And no I've actually not seen an unattractive guy score with women because he was funny, extroverted or confident. And aside from that instance, I regularly make out with girls at nightclubs aswell and even got a one night stand 2 weeks ago. I usually have to approach but I have been approached sometimes before. I didn't use any … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 12:28 AM |
| 55 | Why Men Are Resentful of The Way Women's Sexuality (Often) WorksYou've not been around an attractive man before then. I have a friend who does trigger arousal in women instantly without doing anything. Every time we go on a night out, there will atleast be one or two women who will forwardly approach him, dance with him, and then make out with him a few minutes later. He never approaches women. And trust me, he isn't charismatic. He has a monotone voice, speaks super quietly, is super shy, and has very mute facial expressions. But he's 6ft 1 tall, slim (no m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 11:54 PM |
| 7 | Many of the problems in the dating landscape can be attributed to a lack of viable social venues for young people.For most of human history marriages were arranged. A woman didn't marry a man because was hot or charismatic, she married him because her parents told her to, and her parents told her to marry him because his family was wealthy, powerful, or influential. Even after marriages stopped being arranged, women would still marry men they weren't attracted to as a means of surviving and gathering wealth and influence for herself or her family in a patriarchal society. It's only until very recently that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Many of the problems in the dating landscape can be attributed to a lack of viable social venues for young people.That's comepletley wrong. I go clubbing every weekend from 10PM to 6AM. I make it a rule to atleast ask out 20 women each weekend, I usually do a bit more than that. I've gotten way more actual dates from dating apps than I have from clubbing. There really isn't much difference between real life and the dating apps. Whilst in real life, like a bar, there's usually an equal number of men and women present. The actual ratio of men and women who are single and are willing to date is heavily skewed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Many of the problems in the dating landscape can be attributed to a lack of viable social venues for young people.There's nothing inherently wrong with those venues. All of the places you mentioned are theoretically great places to meet women. The common "issue" with all of them is that women don't go there or aren't receptive to meeting men there. The issue isn't the venue, the issue is a mismatch between what men want and what women want. That's not an "issue" that can be solved with some new gimmicky venue. Because it isn't an "issue". If these women wanted to be approached then they'd sign up to the dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 11:25 PM |
| 10 | Men certainly don't need to be more in touch with their emotionsMen haven't been increasingly told to be in touch with their emotions. Men have been increasingly told to suppress their emotions, except from emasculating emotions like sadness and anxiety. When it comes to anger, lust, and ambition/competitiveness, emotions associated with testosterone, men have been told to suppress them, which naturally leads to an increasing number of men to feel emotionally numb, lost, and passionless in life, hence suicide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Do Women have higher standards OR are we failing as Men?You're arguing against a straw man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 04:29 PM |
| 10 | Do Women have higher standards OR are we failing as Men?Take what you hear on TikTok with a grain of salt. The fact is that 5 ' 9 is average height for a man, and isn't a cause for concern. You getting dates isn't in any way evidence that women don't care about height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 03:47 PM |
| 15 | Do Women have higher standards OR are we failing as Men?The fact that you think 5 foot 9, the average height in the US, is short just comepletely defeats your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 03:12 PM |
| 0 | Do Women have higher standards OR are we failing as Men?If you think about it, in the US 40% of people are obese and 30% are overweight. Which means that even if women are only attracted to the top 30% of men, that just means women are attracted to men who have a healthy BMI. I wouldn't call those standards high, let alone unrealistic. It's just natural to be attracted to people of a reasonable bodyweight. I don't think women have high standards, it's just that both men and women are becoming less attractive over time. Except men seem to be more will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 03:09 PM |
| 2 | Her "She's not interested" cock blocking friend is often times just projectingHappens the other way around aswell. My male friend was trying to hit on this girl, and she was trying to hit on him. But then our other friends, especially the women but the men did aswell, were being super hostile to this girl, calling her a slut for how she dressed, asking her questions to test her intelligence and then accusing her of being stupid, making fun of her accent, trying to convince my friend that he was too good for her, and telling her to get lost. Eventually this girl got super … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 01:58 PM |
| 3 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalyou are asking a person out because they are fuckable, that's it Where's the middle ground? This is clearly a tunnel visioned extreme position | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalhttps://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/155l9x7/comment/jsuu2f7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/155l9x7/comment/jsv10ux/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalHuh? What's the purpose of this comment? I said "bluepillers say X" You said, "give me examples of when bluepillers say X". So I gave examples of when bluepillers said X. What more is there to discuss? And now you're trying to dig up irrelevant shit from my post history? The fuck is wrong with you man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:38 PM |
| 4 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalWhat's wrong with wanting a sexual relationship with someone? Yeah, I don't know them so I ask them out on a date where no sex is involved because I want to get to know them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:34 PM |
| 3 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalNo you didn't. I said bluepillers said those things, you asked me for evidence, and so I'm presenting to you multiple examples. The fact that I took the time to actually look for evidence at all is far more than you deserve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalMy issue isn't with the study. To me it's obvious that loneliness will cause men to become bitter towards women. But lots of people interpret the study to mean that people who are already bitter towards women become lonely. There's also this article that assumes men are lonely because they lack emotional intelligence: https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-state-our-unions/202208/whats-behind-the-rise-lonely-single-men And there's another one that accuses the rise of loneliness on men being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalI'm currently dating an obese woman with a cocaine addiction, yes. But I also don't understand the point of your question. Are you trying to say that if you ask out a woman you're sexually attracted to you're only doing it because you want to fuck them? Can you seriously not comprehend the idea that you can silmutaneously want to have a sexual and emotionally intimate relationship with someone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:22 PM |
| 7 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalHuh? When you ask someone out, it's usually to go on a date. You don't have sex on dates. Dates are for getting to know someone. Because romantic relationships are usually a combination of sex and general interaction/conversation/having platonic fun together. This is literally what I'm talking about. You can't comprehend the idea that there's a middle ground between wanting to fuck and wanting to get to know someone. You're purposefully viewing men in extremes to make us look bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:09 PM |
| 2 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalhttps://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/xx2mtq/unwanted_celibacy_is_linked_to_hostility_towards/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:06 PM |
| 9 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalThere are comments on this post itself saying that they think men only want to approach women because they want to fuck them. They can't fathom the possibility of a middle ground between "I want to fuck" and "I want to get to know a woman". And your comment veers quite close to that extreme when you assume that most men on here feel that they're entitled to a woman's time and energy because he thinks she's attractive. Where in the world are you getting that from? It's almost like your projecting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 12:49 PM |
| 17 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalBecause bluepillers never take the middle ground. They will only ever take the opposite extreme position of whatever position men take in order to invalidate their experiences make them look like the bad guy. If I say that I think I struggle with dating because I'm ugly, bluepillers will say, "I know an ugly man who gets laid all the time because he's a genuinely kind and sweet man. You must be struggling because you're an evil and despicable piece of shit." A middle ground response to the virgi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 12:34 PM |
| 8 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalMen: I struggle with dating because I don't look attractive. Women: No, I know plenty of ugly men who get laid. I wasn't attracted to my bf when I first got to know but he was gentle, sweet, and emotionally vulnerable and so I fell in love with him! You must struggle with dating because you have a shit personality. Men: So looks don't matter? Women: Who's saying looks don't matter! I never said that! I can't imagine dating a guy who isn't physically attractive! Men: So.... wouldn't it make sense… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 12:24 PM |
| – | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalMen: I struggle with dating because I don't look attractive. Women: No, I know plenty of ugly men who get laid. I wasn't attracted to my bf when I first got to know but he was gentle, sweet, and emotionally vulnerable and so I fell in love with him! You must struggle with dating because you have a shit personality. Men: So looks don't matter? Women: Who's saying looks don't matter! I never said that! I can't imagine dating a guy who isn't physically attractive! Men: So.... wouldn't it make sense… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 12:23 PM |
| 8 | Cold approaching women is seen as 'shallow' and 'objectifying', but women rejecting men because they aren't physically attracted is normalAsking someone out doesn't automatically mean you want to fuck them. It could also mean "I want to get to know you more so I can figure out if I want to have a relationship with you or not." Just because you think someone is pretty doesn't mean you want to fuck them. It just means that they met one condition out of many, with those other conditions possibly being met during a date. Because that's kinda the point of asking people out on dates and not instantly inviting someone to your home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 12:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men who are not naturally good at dating and finding sexual partners cannot become good at it without making some women uncomfortable.That's like saying if you're learning to ride a bike then after riding with training wheels for a bit you'll never make a mistake ever again. There's a world of a difference between talking to people online platonically vs talking to people in-person platonically vs talking to people online with romantic connotations vs talking to people in-person with romantic connotations. Each time someone makes that step up, and they need to in order to do it well, they will struggle and make mistakes. But i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 11:02 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who are not naturally good at dating and finding sexual partners cannot become good at it without making some women uncomfortable.There's a very big difference between theoretically knowing what to do and what not to do, and actually being able to do it. It's inevitable that most autistic people will end up making people uncomfortable whilst practicing the theory and strategies that they're taught by their therapists/other support providers. And those mistakes will never go away. They will always keep making mistakes occasionally, except hopefully less often than they used to. It's plain and simply abelist to demonize auti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 10:32 AM |
| 3 | Nice Guys are really just lazy.If a guy has a weak jawline, do you think it's lazy that he's not getting plastic surgery? If a guy is 5 foot 4, how is he supposed to make himself taller? It's laziness for not killing himself and hoping he's born as a tall person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Have you ever been aroused by a man's personality who otherwise had no remarkable physical qualities? If so, what drew you in to him ?If it was possible for sexual arousal to be increased or decreased by personality, then shouldn't it be hypothetically possible for me to become bisexual if I discovered a male friend of mine had an amazing personality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 09:42 AM |
| 2 | What women like vs what men think they likeBut even these more feminine looking men still possess a mostly masculine face and body. Men are still correct in thinking that heterosexual women are attracted to men who look mostly masculine. Yeah sure, a few effeminate traits here and there are nice. And that's the same with men. I find women with short hair and small boobs attractive. I find tomboys attractive. But if they also had broad shoulders, narrow hips, were taller than me, had big muscles, a square jawline, an angular face, had hai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 09:33 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men who are not naturally good at dating and finding sexual partners cannot become good at it without making some women uncomfortable.And what do you think these support providers will do? It's not like they'll give them a magic pill that will solve their problems in an instant. What they'll do is talk through their issues, come up with some strategies to cope with it, and then... tell them to practice in real life. And when they practice, they will be awkward. They will make people uncomfortable, especially women. There's no getting away from that fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 09:02 AM |
| 2 | CMV: If men are trash you're the dumpsterIt's kinda like when people will dedicate hours every day into shitting on a popular tv show, making youtube video essay after video essay about how bad it is, and then they do it... for every single episode. They watch every single episode and frame-by-frame analyze about how bad it is. They create entire communities around talking about how bad the show is. And at a certain point you have to realize... these people clearly don't hate the show. IF they hated it, then they'd critique it a few ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 08:51 AM |
| 3 | Dating App simulation and its resultsThe incentive for a woman would be to have a higher chance of dating monogamous men. Polygamous ch4d top 20% fboys would have no incentive to use the app, they wouldn't be able to spin plates with it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 09:11 PM |
| 2 | Dating App simulation and its resultsMy idea is that there should be a limited number of men who can join the app according to the number of women who have joined the app. So let's say 100 women make an account on the app and 1000 men make an account, the 900 men who made an account the most recently should be put on a waiting list. When anyone gets matched with someone, they get put to the back of the waiting list, their position on the app replaced by someone in the waiting list. Whilst on the waiting list they'll only able to me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 02:21 PM |
| 5 | Dating App simulation and its resultsIs real life much more differrent? 60% of men in their 20s are single whereas 30% women in their 20s are single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 09:27 AM |
| 2 | Are many average guys really refusing to give chubbier women a chance?I'm currently dating an unemployed alcoholic obese cocaine addicted woman who keeps warning me that she's crazy and told me how she bricked the houses of her exes, despite me being 6 foot, 80kg and 14% body fat. And she's probably gonna be dumping me soon because she's moving to another city that's three hours away. But of course I'm a filthy man so I'm a picky piece of shit who needs to lower his unrealistic beauty standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 10:45 PM |
| 3 | What are these “ movies and media” that everyone always references for blue pillThen you watch the sequel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:12 PM |
| 5 | What are these “ movies and media” that everyone always references for blue pillHunchback of Notre Dame disney sequel. And compare that disney-fied trash to how blackpilled the original novel is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:11 PM |
| 5 | Women villainize/gaslight nice guys to avoid admitting what really attracts themI don't know why bluepillers are so afraid to admit that women are sexually attracted to good looking men, and not that man's EQ score or the number of soup kitchens he volunteers at per week. It's ironically and silmutaneously misogynistic and misandrist to treat women as holier-than-thou angels who only reward paragons of virtue with sex, whereas men are barbaric beasts who fuck everything with tits and a hole. Women are human, not angels. Men are human, not beasts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Women villainize/gaslight nice guys to avoid admitting what really attracts themhttps://helloclue.com/articles/sex/idealpartner#:~:text=For%20both%20heterosexual%20and%20homosexual,desirable%20than%20a%20large%20penis. And then look at: https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:08 PM |
| 3 | Why don't women compliment and approach men?I'm not having a hard time reading signals. Women are the ones having a hard time giving signals. If you're not into a guy, and you start grinding on him and twerking on him, basically dry humping him, what do you think I'm gonna think? You really think I'm gonna think, "she's just being friendly." There was one girl who actually successfully gave me signals at a nightclub. She kept looking over at me and my friend group. She and her friends crossed from the other side of the club to dance next … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Why don't women compliment and approach men?I did talk to her for for five minutes, made her laugh multiple times, I got her number, we danced for a bit, and then I asked to kiss her, and so she pulled away, said she wasn't into me, and walked away saying she needs to find her friends. Yeah, I get if you're just dancing with someone you don't want to get intimate. But I wasn't the one who made her grind on me and twerk on me, she was the one who turned around and did that herself. If that's not a sign a girl is into me what the fuck is a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 03:11 PM |
| 4 | Why don't women compliment and approach men?Those signals mean nothing. At a nightclub a girl was literally grinding and twerking on me. Then when I went for a kiss she said she wasn't into me and walked away. Yet there have been women I approached at nightclubs who spoke in a monotone, gave me no eye contact gently pushed me away when I asked for their number, so I walked away catching the hint, then they ran over to me, tapped me on the shoulder, gave me their phone and said she wanted my number. Then we'd dance, and make out. Women are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 02:40 PM |
| 3 | Women villainize/gaslight nice guys to avoid admitting what really attracts themI think people really overestimate how ugly the "ugly people I know who have sex" are just so they can invalidate the experiences of virgin men and push their agenda that women are sexually pure and less superficial than men. Like yeah sure, the man they know who they think is ugly might be short, but they probably have a square and defined jaw, they're lean and muscular, broad shoulders, narrow hips, have a well-groomed full stubble, etc. And even then, what women call short is usally a man who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 12:56 PM |
| 5 | Women villainize/gaslight nice guys to avoid admitting what really attracts themPersonality can't compensate for looks. I think my friends have incredible personalites. Do I want to fuck them? No, because they look like men and I'm not sexually attracted to people who look like men. Just like how that virgin man is a virgin because he doesn't possess masculine physical traits - he's 5 foot 3, has a weak jaw, narrow shoulders, wide hips, a round face, low muscle mass, patchy or no facial hair, and therefore his face and body doesn't trigger arousal within the mind and body o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 12:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: neurodivergent/guys on the spectrum should seek partners on the spectrumJesus Christ, if you go to the metal room at a nightclub half the women there have dyed hair, piercings, tattoos, and alt clothing. They're not all autistic. You need to go outside my brother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 12:20 PM |
| 16 | Women villainize/gaslight nice guys to avoid admitting what really attracts themIf a man was a virgin and he blamed that on his appearance, what do you think blue pillers would say? They'd say "looks don't matter, I have an ugly friend and he gets laid, you must be a virgin because you're an evil misogynistic piece of shit." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 12:18 PM |
| 2 | CMV: neurodivergent/guys on the spectrum should seek partners on the spectrumWhen you go to a psychologist to get tested for autism, they don't use your hair colour, your tattoos, your piercings, or clothing styles as signs of autism. You're actually insane if you think that's what defines autism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 12:13 PM |
| 3 | CMV: neurodivergent/guys on the spectrum should seek partners on the spectrumYou're speaking comeplete and utter nonsense. None of those things can be used to determine if someone is autistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 12:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: neurodivergent/guys on the spectrum should seek partners on the spectrumWhat are the usual tell signs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If you saw two people and you thought one was a femboy and one was a woman, what visual cues would you use to make that deduction? How is it nonsense to say that heterosexual people are sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex? That's literally what heterosexual means | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 11:54 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?You said before you wouldn't date a trans woman with a penis. Why is that? What's the difference between Timothee Chalamet and a trans woman with a penis? There is a difference, and that difference is what you are sexually attracted to as a heterosexual woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?You'd use your eyes to do what? What would you look for? In the context of a bar, or any common daily situation, you can't do a blood test to find out their chromosomes, and you can't pull down their underwear and look at their genitalia. You have to rely on secondary sexual characteristics such as facial hair, hair length, shoulder width, hip width, muscle size, height, fat distribution, etc. But there's nothing stopping a man from lacking facial hair, having long hair, having narrow shoulders,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 11:15 AM |
| 0 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Does the thought of having sex with a woman repulse you? Like what if a full woman with breasts and a vagina fucked you with a dildo? Because as a man, the idea of having sex with a man definetely repulses me. My friend made out with this woman one time at a nightclub, but as he was making out with her he felt her stubble and then her penis, thus realizing that she was a trans woman. He instantly pulled away from her, went to the toilet, and threw up. He was genuinely repulsed by the experience.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?But those men still mainly possess masculine physical traits. Timothee Chalamet has an extremely square and defined jaw, broad shoulders, narrow hips, short hair, and he's 5 foot 10 which is above average height. Would you still be attracted to him if he was 5 foot 1, had narrow shoulders, wide hips, a weak jaw, a round face, and long hair? And no, a man doesn't just need to have a penis to meet your looks threshold. You already admitted that to be the case when you said you wouldn't date a tran… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Let's say you go to a bar and you want to find someone to have a ONS with. How will you know if someone at the bar is of the biological sex that you are sexually attracted to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If that's true, why don't heterosexual women date women if they get equally aroused by men and women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Great, because that's my point. You as a heterosexual woman are attracted to people who look like men. If a man lacks masculine physical traits then he will be less attractive. And no amount of personality will increase your sexual attraction towards him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If personality can increase sexual attraction, then hypothetically, do you think it's possible for a man's personality to be good enough to make a heterosexual man become sexually attracted to that man and thus become bisexual? Because some people seem to get confused by me bringing up this hypothetical, I'll answer the question for you. No, a man can't be turned bisexual by personality, because personality is irrelevant to sexuality, unless you're talking about stuff like pansexuality. Heterose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Would you date a trans woman with a penis? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 09:38 AM |
| 3 | CMV: neurodivergent/guys on the spectrum should seek partners on the spectrumThere are 4 times as many autistic men as there are autistic women. There simply aren't enough autistic women to go around. To make it worse, there's a higher proportion of single autistic men than there are single autistic women. Simply because autistic men are less attractive to neurotypical women than autistic women are to neurotypical men. It's like asking why don't short men just date short women, well because there are 6 foot 6 men who like or atleast who wouldn't mind dating a short girl … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 08:52 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Not necessarily, because the personality threshold for romance is not the same as it for friends. Maybe for someone you'd marry or start a long-term relationship with. But for short term dating, hookups and ONS no, the personality threshold is actually lower than it is for friendships. Remember, I'm talking about getting a virgin man to lose his virginity, not find a wife. We're talking about learning to walk, not learning to run. We're talking about getting a first job, not mainting a job or ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 08:35 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?That's great, and maybe what you're saying applies to them but doesn't apply to heterosexual people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I agree with this. Except meeting the personality threshold and not meeting the looks threshold will get you friends, but not a romantic relationship. Whereas not meeting the personality threshold but meeting the looks threshold will get you lots of short term relationships/hookups/ ONS. Which means that if a virgin man who already has platonic friends asks how he can lose his virginity, the bluepillers who accuse him of having a shitty personality are being silly in my opinion. Looksmaxxing is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Yeah, they're still attractive men because they still mostly possess masculine physical traits. For example, I'd be attracted to a muscular woman with small boobs, which you might say is a masculine woman. But if that woman was also taller than me, also had short hair, also had a square jaw, had narrow hips, broad shoulders, etc. then at some point I'm not gonna be attracted to her anymore. Masculinity and femininity is a spectrum. You don't need to be 100% towards masculinity and 100% towards f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Sorry, I explained that poorly. My point that there are other markers of gender other than genitalia that can trigger sexual attraction. Just because a trans woman has a penis doesn't negate all of their other feminine physical traits. Still wouldn't date her, but I'd still find her attractive before I saw her naked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I wouldn't date a trans woman with a penis, but I also wouldn't date a trans man with a vagina. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I dont think heterosexual women are attracted to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Ok, let me rephrase it. There's man A and man B, they're both friends. Man A is a heterosexual man, but he suddenly discovers that man B has the best personality a person possibly could have. Would Man A suddenly become bisexual and find Man B sexually attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 05:25 PM |
| 0 | Why wouldn't looks matter?No, no matter how my male platonic friends behaved around me i wouldn't suddenly become bisexual. I'm a heterosexual man and I'm therefore sexually attracted to women. If a heterosexual person became attracted to someone of the same sex because of personality or non-looks factors then that person isn't heterosexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 05:21 PM |
| 0 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If one of your platonic friends hypothetically had the best personality a person possibly could have, would you become sexually attracted to them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Heterosexual women are by definition not bisexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?The type of physical traits you're into is determined by your sexuality. Looks = sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If a man was a virgin, never had a date, what advice would you give him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Why wouldn't looks matter?They still had mostly masculine features. If they exclusively had feminine features and straight up looked like women I doubt girls would go crazy for them. They're also vastly different from the average person because they're mega famous and talented wealthy high status etc so you can't really use them as a guide. It's like dropping out of college just because Zuckerberg did. Zuckerberg succeeded despite dropping out of college because he had a million other things going perfectly for him. Most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If one of your platonic friends hypothetically had the best personality a person possibly could have, would you become sexually attracted to them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I think that the differentiating factor between a friendship and a romantic relationship is sexual attraction. Therefore if someone struggles with dating but also has friends, their problem isn't personality it's most likely going to be looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I think if that was the case, there should be a scenario in which a heterosexual woman could end up finding another woman with enough hyper confidence sexually attractive. But I don't think that is possible that woman would have to be gay or bisexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If that was the case, then hypothetically, it should be possible for me to find someone who looked like a man sexually attractive as long as they had a good enough personality to compensate for it. But that's simply not true. Yes if there was a really hot woman who had a shit personality I'd choose not to date her, but I'd still deep down find her sexually attractive. Because I think platonic attraction/ compatibility and sexual attraction are two comeplety different emotions that don't interact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 02:25 PM |
| -1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Not sure how your first paragraph leads to the second. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If looks don't matter, why don't heterosexual women want to date high-status women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 01:37 PM |
| 0 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Huh? What I'm saying is the comeplete opposite of bisexuality. I'm saying that under no circumstances would I ever be attracted to someone who didn't possess physical markers of femininty because I'm a heterosexual man. The person I'm responding to is the one saying that they're attracted to feminine looking men as long as they have penises which she somehow knows they possess before she sees them naked didn't know x-ray goggles were so widely available these days lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 01:31 PM |
| 0 | Why wouldn't looks matter?My point is that those traits are what differentates platonic attraction and romantic attraction, and thus determines romantic attraction. So lacking those traits will make dating more difficult. If a man is short, skinny, a round face, and a weak jawline, and struggles with dating, it's probably not his lack of confidence or moral character that's causing issues, it'll be his looks. But of course, most people will pretend that it's not his appearance that's at fault, but instead assume that he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I agree, you don't need to have all of the traits, because it's rare for women to have all of the traits either. People tend to date others on similar levels of attractiveness. And yeah, some women don't like facial hair, like skinny men, etc. But that doesn't discount the idea that they still are attracted to most physical signifiers of masculinity. Because if they didn't, I still struggle to understand why they wouldn't just date a woman. So considering that, the path forward for someone who's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 01:04 PM |
| -1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?It means being attracted to people of the opposite sex. But to say that the only physical trait that determines your attraction to the opposite gender are their genitals seems silly to me, because when I go outside and see someone I'm attracted to I don't know what's happening in their underwear. There are physical markers that are associated with certain genders that are more readily on display in public than genitalia (height, body shape, facial shape, facial hair, hair length, etc.) , but are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I think that feminine/masculine signifiers are what determines attractiveness, and lacking some and especially all of them will make you struggle a lot in dating. If a man is 5 foot 1, clean-shaven, has a round face, weak jaw, skinny, narrow shoulders, wide hips, etc. he's gonna struggle a lot and no amount of personality is gonna change women's minds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I assume people's gender based on height, facial hair, hair length, facial shape, etc. But there's nothing stopping a man from being short, clean shaven, having long hair, having a round face, wearing a dress, wearing makeup, etc, thus making me think they're a woman, yet still having a penis and male chromosomes and thus biologically being a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:35 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If that was true, what's stopping a heterosexual woman from becoming sexually attracted to a hyper-confident and hyper-dominant woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:33 PM |
| -1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?No. But I also wouldn't date a trans man even if their vagina was still there, but were 6 foot 4, full facial hair, big muscles, broad shoulders, etc. I just think there are other physical traits outside of genitals that people consider to be clear cut dealbreakers that no amount of personality can compensate for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?What is a "man" and what is a "woman" isn't really black or white. Many people are using the idea of having a dick has the differentiating factor, but even if my friends had vaginas I still wouldn't find them attractive because there are other traits that effect how physically attractive I percieve someone to be. Just like if your friends suddenly changed their genetalia you wouldn't suddenly find them attractive either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:27 PM |
| -1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Did you see all your past boyfriend's penises before you became attracted to them? I really don't think their penises is what triggered your attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:24 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Even if my male friends had vaginas I still wouldn't be attracted to them. When I walk around outside and I see someone I don't have x-ray vision to allow me to see what's present underneath their underwear. The traits that trigger attraction most of the time in daily life has nothing to do with genatalia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:23 PM |
| 3 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I want the actual answer after you've calmed down, come back, and see me as a human being and not just an autistic verbal punching bag you can release your frustrations on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:19 PM |
| 0 | Why wouldn't looks matter?You really think penis is the only differentiating factor? What if Henry Cavill became a eunuch, would you suddenly lose all attraction to him? As a heterosexual man, if I starting dating Scarlett Johansson, but in bed found out she had a penis, I'd be grossed out by the penis, but I'd still overall consider her appearance to be attractive because there are other femine physical traits outside of genitalia that I find arousing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:15 PM |
| 2 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I think that shows that personality can't actually make up for looks. No amount of confidence, charisma, kindness, personality, curing cancer, solving world hunger, etc would make me sexually attracted to one of my male friends. And I think that would be the case for women I'm not sexually attracted to aswell. But you hear many cases of someone not having the best personality - lacking confidence, lacking charisma, lacking humour, being shy, etc. but being physically attractive enough to compens… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I never asked to be autistic. I know there's something I'm missing which is why I'm asking the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 11:58 AM |
| -3 | Why wouldn't looks matter?I don't really agree with that because I don't think there is a difference in quality between personality of friends and lovers. The idea that someone's personality could win you over the more time you spend with someone implies that if I spent enough time around a platonic male friend of mine then I could eventually become motivated to date them. But that's just not true. I'm a heterosexual male. I'm not sexually attracted to men and no amount of personality will change that. The difference bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 11:57 AM |
| 2 | Why wouldn't looks matter?If your platonic friends were more confident, more charismatic, had better personalities, etc, would you date them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 11:52 AM |
| 0 | Why wouldn't looks matter?Are you a heterosexual woman? If so, what stops you from dating women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 11:49 AM |
| 5 | Why wouldn't looks matter?But what do you mean to an extent? I think if you're extremely physically unattractive, then no amount of personality can save you. Are you a heterosexual man? Hypothetically, imagine that a male friend of yours had the greatest personality that someone could possibly have. Would you fuck him? Would his personality compensate for your comeplete lack of sexual attraction for him? If you're a heterosexual man I highly doubt you would. But if he had long hair, no facial hair, narrow shoulders, wide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 11:39 AM |
| 1 | If I need to be perfectly happy alone for a partner to find a partner to like me, why would I want a partner in the first place?Relationships won't fix all your problems but guess what? Nothing will. The world is a shitty place that will keep getting shittier until you die and the entire human race kills itself in nuclear warfare, and what remains of the earth gets swallowed by the sun. Saying that "a girlfriend will make me happy" isn't me saying that a girlfriend will fix all problems in my life. All I'm saying is that a girlfriend would help distract me from the unrelenting suffering and tragedy of my meaningless exis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 10:24 AM |
| 2 | Most single people aren't actually happy singleIt's about choice and power. If you choose to be single, then it doesn't feel bad. Which is usually the case for women. Women are usually single because all potential suitors want them, but just aren't good enough which puts them in a position of superiority. But men are usually single because potential suitors don't see them as good enough, which puts them in a position of inferiority. It's the difference between rejecting an invite to a party, and not being invited in the first place. One make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 12:55 PM |
| 3 | Most single people aren't actually happy singleYup, the idea that women are happier single is a bit of an illusion. Whilst single men are usually comepletely restricted from validation and attention from the opposite gender, single women are still getting approached and getting access to casual sex whenever they wish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 12:40 PM |
| 7 | I'm confused on the overall stance women have on approachingThe whole thing about women not approaching because they don't want to be seen as desperate and clingy is so strange. It's not like its any different for men either. We're always seen as weird and desperate and often much worse when we approach women. And yeah, it's uncomfortable to be judged in that kind of way but we just endure. We endure the shame of it and keep moving forward because we don't have a choice. If we don't appproach then we'll die alone. And I'd rather feel weak and ashamed of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 12:38 PM |
| 3 | Do you guys even like women? Why?The irony of assuming my point of view by the group my beliefs lean towards to whilst at the same time complaining about black and white thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Are average men really "struggling" to get relationships with girls?Most men aren't struggling. If you go outside, most people are in relationships and the people that aren't will be in one in a couple of weeks or months. Lots of people are gonna bring up the 63% of men below 30 being single and only 30% of women below 30 being single, but bare in mind that women tend to date men who are older than them, and just because you say you're single at the time of the survey doesn't mean you were single a week ago and doesn't mean you will be single a week later. And d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 02:04 PM |
| 37 | Do you guys even like women? Why?Women are morally pure angels with mind-reading super powers who only date morally virtuous men for the deepest and purest and least-shallow reasons, and men are morally void barbaric beasts who have 0 emotional intelligence and only date women for how big her tits are. Women good. Men bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 01:57 PM |
| – | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.The OkCupid data shows that even though women find 80%of men below average in attractiveness, women are more likely to message me who they find unattractive than men are. Because for men the likelihood that he will message a woman correlates with how attractive she is. But for women there is no correlation between how a attractive a man is and how likely she is to message him. Showing that there's no correlation between how physically attractive a man is and a woman's overall attraction towards … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 05:39 PM |
| 1 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.If there isn't any correlation between a man's physical traits and a woman's attraction to that man (as per the data that shows women are more likely to message men who they weren't even attracted to) does the conclusion that women find men physically attractive make sense? Maybe we could instead conclude women are attracted to men for non-physical traits like social status/wealth/charisma/personality, etc - which are traits that aren't specific to men. So the idea that women find men specifical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 03:52 PM |
| 0 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.Psychology is never understood by directly asking people things. If you were to ask the average person if they would do evil things if an authority figure told them to, then the majority would say "no". The majority would identify themselves to be rebellious non-conformists, but that's obviously not true. The milgram experiment and its variations, the asch experiment and its variations, the zimbardo experiment, and endless other psychological experiments clearly shows that the majority of people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 03:38 PM |
| 2 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.I'm not saying that all men in their 20s are perpetually alone and I'm not saying that all women in their 20s are dating men in their 30s. And I'm not saying all women in their 30s are perpetually alone. I'm just explaining the research that OP referenced. The research goes into more depth if you look at it from other sources. Overall, 32% of men are single, and 28% of women are single. But 63% of men between 18 - 29 are single, and only 34% of women are single. Which is why OP says that young m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 03:28 PM |
| 0 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.Uh, I'm not sure if you fully grasp what I'm saying. If I was to be more hyperbolic and binary - since that seems to be the only way people communicate nowadays - I'm pretty much saying that female heterosexuality is a myth. Women have never found men physically attractive. Over thousands of years women may have conditioned themselves to endure marrying ugly men for resources to the point where they're able to halo-effect trick themselves into becoming sexually aroused to a man due to non-physic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 03:21 PM |
| 3 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.Quite interesting how in that article it mentions how 1/5 of women identify as queer. It paints an interesting picture when you combine it with how lesbian porn is the most popular porn category for women, and there was another study that I remember seeing (can't seem to find it anymore unfortunately) that found that straight women subconsciously found lesbian porn more arousing than heterosexual porn. There seems to be lots of evidence showing that women have a much more fluid sexuality than me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 02:25 PM |
| 3 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.Don't those two sentences contradict eachother? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 02:04 PM |
| 0 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.Did you even read his post? You're not engaging with what the OP said in the slightest, you're just arguing against a made up person in your head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 01:19 PM |
| 1 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.Why wouldn't men in their 20s be single? Women like older men. And there aren't a lot of women that are younger than men in their 20s. A lot of men in their 20s can't even grow full body hair and facial hair yet - their physical features haven't fully masculinized. But by the time a woman has reached her 20s the feminity of her physical features have peaked. You can actually see this reverse somewhat because there are actually more single older women than there are single older men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Alot of guys don’t actually find women attractive. They like cosmetics.It's balanced according to the idea that men find women physically attractive. How attractive a female user is correlates with the amount of messages men send to them. Whereas, for women there is no correlation between how attractive a man is and the likelihood of her sending a message to them. Which shows that for women physical attraction isn't even a factor because they find pretty much all men physically unattractive. If the quality of a man's pictures mattered then why don't women message t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Alot of guys don’t actually find women attractive. They like cosmetics.Don't really see how any of that counters what I'm saying? My point is that women don't find men physically attractive - even the men they date. So women messaging ugly men and not enjoying hookups makes a lot of sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 08:34 PM |
| 3 | Most relationships are transactional and aren't based on real love.Would you make out with Hitler? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Alot of guys don’t actually find women attractive. They like cosmetics.What you're talking about is a small minority's reactions to a video game. It has nothing to do with reality. The majority of people that play games don't whine about things on twitter and youtube, they just quietly buy the game and play. You're complaining about a vocal minority. Even if we were to grant that the vocal minority represents the feelings of the majority of men, people's preferences for video game elements are not equal to reality. People like playing games like GTA where they comm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 01:30 PM |
| 2 | CMV : As a man the best strategy to achieve success in dating is to approach it as one big jokeThis wouldn't work for one simple reason: never trust self-reported data. Self-reported data always contradicts behavioural data. This goes for every aspect of psychology. It's not nessecarily that people lie, but people plain and simply don't know what they want. And even if they did they don't know why they want what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Most relationships are transactional and aren't based on real love.Obviously. Love doesn't come from thin air. Something needs to cause it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 12:53 PM |
| 0 | Most relationships are transactional and aren't based on real love.There's only a 5% difference in the rates of obesity between men and women, and men on average earn $30,000 than their wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 12:53 PM |
| 5 | Most relationships are transactional and aren't based on real love.If it's unconditional, then do you feel it for everyone? Why would unconditional love be exclusive to one person if there are no conditions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 12:45 PM |
| -1 | Understanding Romance From A Male Perspective (Explaining The Disconnect)Ok yeah I agree with that. But I do think that's more of a modern occurrence. Throughout history I don't think men wanted motherly love, they wanted more of a daughter - a woman who was submissive, passive and in need of protection. And men in the past enforced this desire into their laws, culture and religions. Which is why these gender norms and roles exist. That was ultimately my point. And as these norms have started to decay, we see an emergence of men desiring women to be more active and w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 03:27 PM |
| 0 | Understanding Romance From A Male Perspective (Explaining The Disconnect)But I think that's just a case of men wanting to have their cake and eat it too. You can't have the male romantic fantasy of impressing a woman with your ability to provide, and then complain when women lose interest in you when you fail to provide. Playing a game doesn't just involve the pleasure of winning , it also involves the pain of failure. Don't want to fail? Don't play the game And really, I also question what you mean by transactional. What's the alternative? Unconditional love? But ro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Understanding Romance From A Male Perspective (Explaining The Disconnect)Isn't the male romantic fantasy way older than the female romantic fantasy? I mean the male romantic fantasy is just the heroe's journey, right? And in the heroes journey it's pretty clear that the man is the active hero and the woman is the passive damsel in distress. I mean, look at this quote by Joseph Campbell: Women don't need to make the journey. In the whole mythological journey, the woman is there. All she has to do is realise that she's the place that people are trying to get to. Wouldn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 02:17 PM |
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