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Because having sex with hot girls is funn
/r/AllPillDebate19/05/23 09:42 PM
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Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:15 PM
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I don’t understand. You do know height is part of the look right? It can make someone look like an adult than a child
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:58 PM
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So these people that are married are I’m assuming in their 30s which is a completely different generation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:56 PM
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And that fat guy will never get the raw desire and good sex from his wife lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:53 PM
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Haha you are comparing a famous pro rich ufc fighter to a normal overweight 6’ guy. You rly just proved his point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:50 PM
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Yup and working your way to become attractive isn’t very realistic either. You can’t work on frame, height, face unless with surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:19 PM
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That’s not PUA. That’s the girl desiring your friend because they found him attravtive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:50 PM
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It’s so weird, how can you teach someone to be confident? Confidence comes from being genuinely good at something or getting validation from somethkng
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:47 PM
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No PUA guy I know gets with attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:45 PM
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Guys don’t give af if a girls rich tf?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:44 PM
5

So just become a celebrity ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:30 PM
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True. PUA and RPers are getting neither. They have little options. But would you date a lean pretty 30 year old or a pretty lean 20 year old?
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 07:11 PM
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Not the point. You can easily tell if a woman is in her early 20s or 30s.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 07:05 PM
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Just download tinder. It’s so easy to get with them, just match and ask them to chill. That’s how I do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:32 AM
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Lol doing the bare minimum isn’t gonna bump a guy a few point above average. Height, good looking face, proportionate body are way more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:31 AM
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6’4 good looking guy is gonna be all those things due to positive feedback. Just look up chad fishing on YouTube. Looks are all that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:29 AM
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Iv seen it happen a lot. Once she gets that green card she divorcing asap!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:22 AM
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Nah. Outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:36 PM
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They struggle. Trust. There’s a reason why they go to South East Asian/poorer countries.
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 07:26 PM
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Lol I feel like the jump from 4-7 isn’t that much different except that the 6s and 7s want to get to know you more before hooking up. The 4-5s will hookup literally same night easy. However, getting with like the legit 7+ baddies is a huge rollercoaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:23 AM
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Bruh let me know if you find the secret to that. I feel like girls I get with are like 4-7 range. Anything above a 7 is like 100x harder to pull. Idk why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:15 AM
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Bruh none of this matters. Like 80% of guys didn’t have a chance to begin.
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 07:45 PM
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Most guys I know are dating overweight girls. It’s sad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:36 AM
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I think it means like wide shoulders, tall, small head.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:35 AM
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So did it get better with age? Not talking about your esteem. But how women wanted to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:36 PM
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Ok this matters a lot. But what age are these women responding. Also how pretty and hot are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:29 PM
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You can’t lift your way out of an ugly face nor short height nor a poor bank account. Which hot women account way more than muscles .
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 11:16 PM
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Most girls are in a rotation unknowingly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:17 PM
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If those foreign women came to the west they leave asap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:28 PM
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Are you a hot young woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:02 AM
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Nah 80/20 applies to literally everything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:09 AM
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It’s most important
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:07 AM
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Hot young women want rich good looking guys tf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:07 AM
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🧢🧢 you ain’t like that bruh
/r/AllPillDebate06/04/23 04:23 PM
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Cap on the very good looking
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 04:27 PM
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Because there is always a better guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:36 AM
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Wouldn’t you be more jealous of the men that gets tons of matches? Any women can get tons of matches. You can have black screen as profile pic and you would still get matches.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 08:58 PM
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What if the uneducated girl is super hot, young, feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:33 AM
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Stop the cap, that’s not why guys won’t move. It’s because girls won’t like them regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:08 PM
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Cap
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:02 AM
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Nah, when a girl is down for me it’s so obvious. And if I can sense a hint of maybe from her it’s probably a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:55 AM
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All hot women in 2023 are on social media. Everyone is cappin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:03 PM
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I know… but most men want and pursue hot women…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 07:40 PM
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Yeah but these instagram women/baddies are what majority of young men want and pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 07:13 PM
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Sorry but if your daughter is on Minecraft and discord all day I don’t think she’s the type to use men like op is referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 07:06 PM
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Lol no RP dudes here are getting with models…. This is where Blackpill comes in, no matter how hard the Redpill guy works he will be capped by his genes and not get the baddie type.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:29 PM
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A hot girl
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:41 PM
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In 2023 if you under 6ft you are auto not in top 20%
/r/AllPillDebate14/02/23 03:33 PM
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This was my friend’s situation. As soon as his gf slimmed down she left him after 2 years together. She recognized her value and the obvious new attention she was receiving.
/r/AllPillDebate14/02/23 03:29 PM
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Classic guy in his 40s asking for fit feminine and agreeable lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:19 AM
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Like in performance or with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 08:20 PM
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If you are gonna make that comparison. Then the 22 pro athlete is doing better than the 30 year old athlete
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:56 PM
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Not really. I doubt this guy is over 6ft and he also has no hair and is old… None of those things are universally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:49 PM
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A 25 year old looks very different than a 35 year old…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:49 PM
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But that’s his competition for the young hot college girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:48 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:47 PM
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lol height isn’t the only thing that makes a man attractive… He’s bald and his face isn’t very…. Good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:47 PM
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Because he’s not attractive….
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:12 PM
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But something you can’t attain is usually more valuable. Like height.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:19 PM
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You are def not stronger and faster at 35 tf
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:17 PM
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You rly comparing Leo to the avg guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:14 PM
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At that point you are just maintaining tho. A hot 25 year old guy will always beat out a 35 year old always when it comes to hot young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:10 PM
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So you are saying young women like old men. That’s pure c**e. Look at TikTok and tell me what kind of guys GenZ women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:08 PM
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So majority of hot young women are sugar babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:58 PM
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A 30 year old is beating out the popular college football player ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:39 PM
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Dude you really for the meme that young women like big muscles and body hair lol. Go on TikTok and see the dudes who get the most attention…. Also height>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:36 PM
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Looks are more valuable because you are born with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:32 PM
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Except he couldn’t. Because his money is probably not enough to entice women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:31 PM
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And iv got that in Canada. It really isn’t an achievement doing that in a poverty stricken country where women don’t have a choice. I bet you anything you couldn’t pull in any western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:30 PM
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You think the baldy in the video had women into him in the states?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:18 PM
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How do you she’s not being paid to be there? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 08:14 AM
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That’s cap. Plenty of hot girls in LA. So you don’t think the fact that women here in the States can make big money influences their attitudes? I think if that exact same girl in the video grew up in the states. She wouldn’t even consider this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:33 AM
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What makes this man attractive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:28 AM
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Pointless if you aren’t attractive and have a good profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:09 AM
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Exactly, isn’t this just proving the point that this woman is hugely influenced by his money? (Which is probs not much in the states) So if this woman moved to the West, wouldn’t she just be able to get with someone more powerful and richer?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:08 AM
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Nah man, there are plenty of hot girls with good personalities in the West. It’s just they aren’t nice to the avg looking guy because they got options and make their own money. Attracting many hot women in the West is peak male value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:04 AM
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You do know that the hot, feminine women in West go for hot guys right? It’s just these women from developing countries don’t have a choice. Because the surrounding men around them are broke af.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:02 AM
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So you agree that they’d only have success in developing countries correct? Because I know for sure if they went to Japan or South Korea they are gonna struggle..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:01 AM
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No I think it’s because it’s not the utopia that it’s made out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:00 AM
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Exactly, and imagine the disparity in quality of sex the provider gets compared to the hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:59 AM
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Um that was 20 years ago. Pre social media and dating apps… It’s a different world now when this kind of woman just needs IG and will 100x offers from high value dudes in her area.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:59 AM
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Then why don’t men go? What’s stopping them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:20 AM
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Higher standards. Avg guys aren’t getting matches because of increase of competition. More men are blackpilled and are lookmaxxing especially the younger generation. Also young women are way more picky and need validation of landing a “hot guy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:27 AM
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Because you are spewing bs. There is no evidence that shows this. Please put your tinder location to Japan and tell me what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 03:06 AM
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Nah 150k at 50 isn’t moving the needle for hot 21 year old girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:46 PM
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Exactly a fit man that is ugly and short is still a short ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:08 PM
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Doesn’t matter. 99% of dude here don’t got options like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:07 PM
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Then why don’t you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:56 PM
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It isn’t the cheat code guys think it is. It only works in poorer Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 07:56 PM
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Yes he will do better than the 35 year old baldy. But that’s not his competition. His comp are the tall built guys with nice looking faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 06:31 PM
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Lol at the triggered old guys that are downvoting..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:59 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:20 PM
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But that dude will still get hookups tho
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:19 PM
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Women in their 20s are peak tho
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:17 PM
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You think old men are pulling club girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:17 PM
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All in all, it depends on your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:15 PM
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This is true. My friend in high school had rly good hair in high school and got with a lot of girls. Started balding aggressively at 18 and completely bald at 20. He def peaked in hs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:15 PM
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It’s such hope to think that when men turn 30. Hot 18-22 college girls are gonna start wanting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:07 PM
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Nah, yes if the guy is attractive… avg white guys don’t get matches period.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:27 PM
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How many? And when? Go there today and try to get hot Japanese and korean women to meet up… Bet it won’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 06:46 AM
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Yes They do better in south east Asia…. But not in developed East Asian countries I’ll bet you anything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 06:46 AM
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I’m sorry but I think it’s proven that shorter men don’t get laid at the same clip as tall men. And women (at young age) are very selective with superficial traits like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:08 AM
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Disagree, most short guys I know don’t get laid like that (multiple one night stands a month) they usually have 1 girl for long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:54 AM
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Show proof of matches in Japan. Because I know for a fact it’s harder there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:34 AM
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How come NO guys here can get tons of matches in South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, or Singapore? Maybe because these women are not desperate and have jobs that can pay them adequately. Women from Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia don’t have the same opportunities as those women from east Asia. It literally has nothing to do with the guy being more attractive. It’s just those women are desperate and are told from a young age that westerners live richer lives. I can guarantee you, no guy here could get…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:23 AM
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I disagree his genetics are going to limit him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:20 AM
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You rly think it’s possible for a short guy who’s not wealthy nor good looking to become lusted over by legit hot girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:13 AM
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Very true, one of my best friends got hit with this realization half way through college. Spiralled into bad depression for 2 years but finally accepted that hot girls just weren’t for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:06 AM
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What? How is a young man that wants to sleep with good looking women an idiot?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:21 PM
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You need to be high value to get consistent casual sex with hot girls. Which is what 90% of young men strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:24 PM
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What are the chances the avg RP man can bag someone like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:55 AM
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Exactly, majority of RP men don’t got options like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:53 AM
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And they aren’t “hot” tier either. They pretty avg looking. The hot Thai young girls have plenty of options that are rich and good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 12:23 AM
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They probs won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:08 PM
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Majority of guys want young, pretty, thin women which is top 20% And those top 20% women dgaf about 90% of guys Rule still works
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:52 PM
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I bet if you approached 5000 in the year 2022 you would’ve had a much more worse experience and been “exposed” on TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 06:26 PM
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I’m happy, I get more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:00 AM
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Nope, ugly short guy says hey what’s up=harassment, creepy. Hot guy says the exact same thing with exact same tone= cute, funny, “outgoing”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:08 PM
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So after she’s old and been ran thru? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:22 PM
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Proves my point. The chances that anyone in this sub is that level of intelligence is like 0
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:59 PM
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Your chances of becoming rich in todays economy is like 0.01%
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 08:45 PM
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Where? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 02:55 AM
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Meh not rly. A 5’4 guy that gets money won’t suddenly be listed over by hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:29 AM
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If personality mattered then wouldn’t we be seeing more hot girls paired with avg/ugly dudes and hot guys paired with avg/ugly girls? But we don’t see this it’s usually hot people get with other hot people and avg people get with other avg ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:24 AM
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Ya you get a lot of just “be happy bro” but if you don’t get good experiences in social situations then it’s impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:29 PM
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High value woman: -good looking -nice body -young -friendly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:23 PM
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Fit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:11 PM
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As iv said before. As a dude getting with women and getting that validation and being wanted literally cured my depression. If I keep getting rejected and rejected I would have spiralled even further down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:16 AM
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Nah bruh you overthinking. Also you ain’t that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:24 PM
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Blkpill is trending now
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 10:35 PM
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That’s true, but for me knowing it’s fake. I just couldn’t get into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 06:50 PM
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Is this for all ages? Or for men under 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 06:41 PM
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Yes dudes are seriously overestimating their value in these “poor” countries. The top hot girls in these countries are not getting with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 06:40 PM
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ugly is ugly in all countries. Those girls are using you and not giving avg guys the best sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 06:39 PM
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Yeah if the dude doesn’t bring her back she’s leaving unless he’s paying her
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 06:38 PM
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Women from china and South Korea require rich dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 06:37 PM
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Also that low inhib ugly dude would do terrible online. Also low inhib ugly dude would do terrible in his 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 06:35 PM
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Meh, compared to the high inhib ugly dude sure. But compared to high inhib hot guy? No chance. Also low inhib ugly dude will probably get bad reputation for being that obnoxious annoying guy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 05:33 PM
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If the avg to ugly dude displayed low inhibition he will be met with negative reactions. He would be called obnoxious, annoying, weird, etc. Hot guy with low inhibition: bold, confident, alpha, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:52 PM
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Yes with avg to above avg women. An avg guy can get with a 2/10 girl tho
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:33 AM
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Exactly young good looking men do very well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:18 PM
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Not the hot kind. Hot young women aren’t lining up for 30 year old dudes. You will probs get a lot of single moms and/or jaded women interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:17 PM
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Because good genetics are rare. It’s also unattainable so it makes it in high demand
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:13 AM
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Japanese women that are hot ain’t getting with avg guy from the states
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 09:21 AM
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So I guess that means on avg women in their late 20s want 40 year old men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:29 AM
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It def does lower your social status as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:25 PM
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But that doesn’t make the 40 year old men desirable tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:13 PM
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Lol didn’t you say late 20s women find 40 year old men desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:05 PM
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But they get with dudes in their late 20s. My point is, is that 40 year old men aren’t desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:00 PM
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Nah women in their late 20s (the hot ones) have 0 reason to get with a 40 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:41 PM
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If they live in America for years and are seeing the hotter men they can get and with very favourable divorce laws, ofc they gonna jump ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:29 AM
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Only in South Asia and south east Asia. There is no hot East Asian girls from rich Asian countries (Singapore, Japan, Korea) that are getting with avg white guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:27 AM
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It has a greater SMV effect on women where they can go 3-4 points. But for men I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:57 AM
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One can’t be above a 5 with high body fat
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:59 PM
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Lol most of those things are like regular traits a dude should have. Working out, having a job, be social lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:56 AM
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She’s a thin young woman in the west (I assume). Her value is very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:38 AM
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None of those dudes were attractive tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:37 AM
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“It’s you’re personality bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:31 AM
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Yay more men leaving to foreign countries = more women for me :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:16 AM
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And why wouldn’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:15 AM
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Does it matter tho? This doesn’t help your chances, or the other 90% of young dudes now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:45 AM
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I love this. This just disproves everything the red pill preaches. Guys, stop paying attention to these scam red pill grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:36 AM
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But wouldn’t the women just get with the top dude that they def have access to? Isn’t that what’s happening now? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:08 AM
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Nah. If you are hot, then you will get that raw desire from women. It all just depends on how hot you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:07 AM
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So from where? I feel like you will used for green card.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:58 PM
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These are the most realistic options. Red pill loves to sell the idea that young hot women suddenly will be interested in you when you turn 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:58 PM
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Then why are their so many simps? And why are so many men still poor lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:40 AM
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99% of “red pill” dudes would drop all their red pill beliefs as soon as any remotely hot girl show them attention. I don’t think there will be any changes. Because most of the red pill dudes are just scammers trying to get lonely men to pay for their pattern and courses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:39 AM
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You’re rly comparing buffet’s lifestyle (pre social media) to 2022 standards? Hot young Women def care about the lifestyle (vip club passes, jets, yachts, etc. anything that they can flex on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:45 PM
1

Looks are still extremely important at a young age tho. Which is what majority of men here are (young). Status barely helps with young women unless you extremely rich or popular
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:42 PM
3

Yeah and deadbedroom him instantly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:39 PM
4

Nah the girl will def sleep with the 10/10 dude behind the 5/10s back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:36 PM
6

Yeah I still remember my classmate that was horny af and would come over after school to hookup. That literally cured my depression and anxiety I had that summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:35 AM
3

I agree if you were a top tier guy you’re loving how things are. Social media and OLD have just made things that much easier and it’s great. I do feel for the bottom dudes tho because they are exposed to how brutal dating is on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:54 AM
7

Looks are not subjective. Tall Height, strong jawline, broad shoulders, physically in good shape, hairline are all universally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:51 AM
6

Yeah but that advice is like telling someone poor to “just get into a network with rich elites” There’s a reason why it won’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:08 AM
8

Lol just get hot women to be friends with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:53 AM
28

Never lead with your wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:26 AM
3

Are these stats from 2022? Sorry I know K-pop 6’2 GenZ dudes that get so much here in Canada compared to avg white dude
/r/AllPillDebate24/12/22 07:31 PM
4

It’s a myth
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 11:07 PM
-2

The worst thing is the not taking own appearance and health.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:41 PM
0

Disagree that if you maintain frame, work out, groom, and get money = women want you. Most women like things in men that are very hard or impossible to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:41 AM
1

I disagree with just one of your opinions. That being short or ugly isn’t a death sentence. Because iv seen it time and time again, ugly short guys get absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:40 AM
9

Nah I feel like red pill is getting exposed because more and more dudes are not getting the results they were promised from red pill. Red pill promised these guys that working out, grooming, getting your money up, and maintaining “frame” is what will change their dating lives. But nah, you cant change height or face.
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 03:39 AM
16

I’m GenZ a lot of guys I know are def having a hard time getting a girl to even show interest in them. And no, guys do not do their own way by choice. Guys who hookup alot are having fun and have a lot more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:57 PM
3

But you aren’t getting the best sec from her
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:41 PM
3

Avg face guy will have women going for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:25 PM
1

The positive reinforcement after the glow up will change him quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:21 PM
0

You’re probs not as good looking as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:19 PM
10

Younger men are def more attractive than older guys tf
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:13 PM
5

Established does not equal to sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:10 PM
7

Low, but it doesn’t change the fact that older women are not as desirable as younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:08 PM
5

Lol someone’s jaded
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:49 PM
12

Lol you’re just an old dude trying to find validation. No, young hot women aren’t trynna get with you.🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:01 AM
2

What? You mean Reddit girls? I feel like majority of hot young women are not on Reddit… The girls I hang out with (GenZ) are all on apps (hinge, tinder, bumble) and 2 of my female friends found their bfs through IG DMs…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:23 AM
1

Sure but there’s something called tinder and social media where hot young guys can be found. Women aren’t limited to the guys at the bar and evernt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:14 AM
3

Lol it’s so brutal but it’s true. Bald is killer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:13 AM
1

Exactly, there needs to be some drastic change for there to be a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:12 AM
4

exactly, he’s not gonna answer because the experience is maybe a 5% improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:12 AM
1

Doesn’t matter. They going for the hot young guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:06 AM
4

Yeah attraction in men is very simple. Have the traits that are wanted by women (height, face, money, status,)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:40 PM
5

Truest thing said
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 11:28 PM
14

If she’s attracted to you literally anywhere. But most dudes are not very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 11:26 PM
0

Sure.. But being in your 30s with a house and a car is the avg in western society. Not sure how having those things will have 18-22 year old girls fawning over you. Also you aren’t competing with the broke fat 30 year olds obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:05 PM
6

Red pill men say that your value and your prime increases as you get in your 30s, 40s. Just listen to entrepreneur in cars, it’s so cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:52 PM
2

How hot is your girl and how rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:08 PM
1

Was this time during pre dating apps and social media ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:07 PM
6

Exactly, getting old doesn’t make men high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:04 PM
2

We are debating red pill….
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:53 PM
1

Hope
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:52 PM
2

Red pill preaches that women are in their prime in their younger years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:57 AM
4

Nah dude prime ain’t 30s maybe like 24-29 for men. I also have never seen an avg guy just suddenly start crushing it in their 30s. Usually guys that are successful from a young age still remain successful and are improving themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:56 AM
14

That you will be in your prime in 40s bro. And that young women will want you when you older. Reality is, is women and men date 1-5 years within their age and that young women are not gonna be listing for you when you hit 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:44 AM
6

It’s not just white girls on TikTok it’s every hot GenZ girl on TikTok. Height is def a problem under 5’9 (avg height)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:01 PM
6

So like 90% of GenZ girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:52 PM
6

Baddies def care about height in every race.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:52 PM
2

Nah younger women don’t want older guys sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:56 PM
1

Bruh sorry but muscles don’t mean jack if you are short and broke
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:55 PM
4

Exactly this isn’t rly a problem you will see. 99% of guys get auto rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:51 PM
2

Hot 19 year old women aren’t getting with these guys unless $$ is involved
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:47 PM
0

But compare the hot 18-25 yo girls with the 30+ yo girls. There will be on avg more hotter ones in the younger and range and also the young hotter ones have a higher ceiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:33 AM
10

This. 90% of 30 year old men going for young women are auto rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:32 AM
2

True
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:00 AM
1

Loool. This girl wouldn’t last in Asia. Anyways nah, go on TikTok or any social media platform. Tall and hot is going to be successful regardless of race. A tall hot Azn K-pop dude is going to be much more successful than a short wht guy.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 01:08 AM
1

Lol show proof. Westernized countries don’t mess with guys like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:13 PM
1

There isn’t any point in general if you not attractive in todays dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:17 PM
-1

If girls in Asia like white guys then white guys would have success in Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc. Korean K-pop looking guys can slay harder in south east Asia if they wanted to…. So no it’s not because they actually desire white guys, it’s because they chasing the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:16 PM
1

Yes.
/r/AllPillDebate12/12/22 06:23 PM
2

Unfortunately you will probably never sleep with anyone thin due to your height and frame.
/r/AllPillDebate12/12/22 06:22 PM
5

Yes, in todays market. In fact in todays dating market she’s probably higher value than him.
/r/AllPillDebate12/12/22 06:20 PM
1

They rather work then fk for money. This is why money is overrated for attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:17 PM
6

Sad life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:39 AM
7

Tinder shows these guys their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:39 AM
2

But doesn’t it make sense that good looking rich guys get that attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:38 AM
12

This isn’t a flex bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:28 AM
1

And getting that yes is like a 1% chance for the avg guy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:03 PM
4

Social skills are so overrated. I’m quiet, don’t rly say much, don’t open up. But I have plenty of friends and sleep with women so….
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:57 AM
8

Hot girls on social media in 2022 don’t have options?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:55 AM
14

Then why don’t we see more avg looking guys with hot girls? Hot girls are usually with tall hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:25 AM
32

Online dating is basically irl unfiltered
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:25 AM
3

Shows pics cuz if you are attractive as you say you are, this low confidence and lack of dating success isn’t a thing. I can show you my DMs of instagram, where I get messages all the time and it’s quite hard to “fumble the bag”. Confidence is so overrated, an ugly short guy with great confidence isn’t going to get much success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:33 AM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:31 AM
3

Yeah the chances of any of cute to hot girls being interested in the avg guy is 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:30 AM
21

This is the result of social media. You need to have X to flex on social media. Porn to men is what social media is to women, that quick validation dopamine hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:01 AM
10

True, but not every guy is supposed to be a player. There must be “losers” in the dating market for there to be winners
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:56 PM
22

Attracting with your wealth is the worst type of “attraction” You are for sure going to get cheated on, she will def leave you if a richer man comes along. Leading with your wallet is terrible in all situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:43 PM
1

Nah, without social media and dating apps I probs wouldn’t have gotten laid as much as I do now.! This all just depends on how attractive you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:24 PM
-1

Who are those women having casual sex with? With hot guys. They relationship those avg guys. And I bet most avg couples you see are older like lasts 20s. Younger college girls are not messing with avg guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:13 PM
0

Gym out
/r/AllPillDebate09/12/22 03:59 AM
3

Young women are at their most attractive when they are younger. Which means majority of men want them…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:04 AM
3

I live in a major city and nothing has happened yet.. And I also keep things very vague about bf gf talk. I say I’m still not ready, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:03 AM
3

Nah how can they know? I block them and tell them I deleted my account.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:49 AM
12

Nah just say it. If you can’t do well online, then you just low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:46 AM
3

Huh? Most hot girls in their early 20s care a ton about clout wym?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:45 AM
4

Nah bruh. I’m doing rly good. I’m the guy dating 4 chicks at the same time so I know how it goes… If you don’t believe i can dm you my DMs from IG.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:44 AM
17

Agree with most of what you said. But also men are not encouraged to approach these days. GenZ girls hate being cold approached especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:26 AM
5

What are men supposed to do if no online dating? Approach in person? Sorry but if that worked then no one would use online dating. Also with the rise of social media and TikTok, women aren’t down for ordinary looking dudes with ordinary clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:24 AM
1

The women are being led on that they’re the only one. While that one guy is doing that to 10 other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:21 AM
4

Most men cheat when the girl is hotter. Idk about women. But most guys I know that cheat or cheated is when a hotter girl shows interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:08 PM
4

Avg height, good looking > tall, ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:27 PM
2

Nah sorry bro you not a GenZ. GenZ is super Blackpilled and superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:37 PM
1

Age? Location?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:36 PM
6

I completely agree with you. Do guys here really think hot young college aged girls are chilling here on this sub? Also take every advice from a girl redditor with a grain of salt. Like how hot girls want a vulnerable guy that’s not physically attractive. Bruh I’m a GenZer I chill with these hot girls. And let me tell you they superficial af. They care about height a lot and hotness. They will say things like “he’s so hot I’m trynna fk”. And this isn’t to bash on women. Men are superficial af to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:30 PM
1

Wait what how can you change jawline? And also what if the guy is under 5’10 with a bad face?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:17 PM
2

5’8 with options? Nah bro, not in todays dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:16 PM
6

More muscles does not equal to more attraction. I know also of muscular dudes that struggle with women because they were short or balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:05 PM
1

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:01 PM
0

Chad in Chicago is wayyy more impressive than this. Chad in Chicago has the right to brag, this SEA maxing is so cringe and low value.
/r/AllPillDebate08/12/22 04:57 AM
1

Yes this new generation 18-25 year olds hook up majority of the time from online. You can exactly your type from online and you can also screen them through their insta, TikTok, etc. A stranger is weird because you don’t know anything about them and also you don’t even know if they your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:58 PM
6

Attractive guys. Tall, good looking, around same age. Also these guys get majority of the attention
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:08 AM
2

How physically attractive? If attractive, thin, and young then yes and I have. It was strictly just sex and then leave. No talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:21 PM
1

Are you on finasteride?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:51 PM
6

I can guarantee you are overrating the girl and underrating the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:47 PM
5

Lol I’m doing just fine. Just saying how it is. A guy being 5’7 doesn’t just “affect” his chances of making the nba.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:27 PM
1

But it also affects your work life and other areas of life. Like sports, school, most people that do well is from genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:22 PM
6

No it means looks matter the most. Which is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:18 PM
1

I agree most people are avg. But dudes be tripping that they aren’t getting baddies on tinder and venting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:10 AM
4

Agreed. Like low 6 figures isn’t moving the needle for a subpar looking short guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:54 AM
1

And height and face
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:54 AM
2

Solid looks, height, and money too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:08 AM
20

If you had millions to blow it might be different. But ya no hot young women aren’t trynna get with old dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:09 AM
55

You really don’t know until it actually happens. I’m gonna bet 99% of guys on this sub aren’t in the position where their dream girl is throwing them self at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 11:24 PM
3

I think also men overestimate their own level attractiveness. Like bruh you 5’7 and not that good looking, don’t go for baddies lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:13 PM
0

Exactly the type of girls fat guys get aren’t exactly hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:45 PM
8

Yeah those pear shaped girls have a ton of options. They only casually sleep with high value guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:14 PM
7

But those chubby girls casually sleep with jacked guys
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:10 PM
1

Young women are less jaded and are at their hottest. So yes that’s what I want in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:20 PM
5

This is what I got too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:58 PM
1

Men lie up
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:57 PM
3

Ya but most dudes go years without any sort of positive experience with hot girls lol. So its hard to stay positive like that haha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:01 PM
3

Ya it’s human nature. Men are hypergamous as well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:58 PM
9

Online dating and TikTok has forced young men to rank themselves based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:57 PM
7

Agreed. A thin woman in 2022 has so much value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:56 PM
12

Idk a plain Jane and gorgeous is easy to tell apart for 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:53 PM
4

Well most dudes find out quick if they in that league by the reaction they get. Ofc if you are getting with these hot girls youd be confident that you’re in that league. But I’m gonna assume most men here don’t get that positive reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:50 PM
11

I’m pretty objective with myself. But I’d say majority of men are shooting above. And in todays dating market majority of men can’t afford to do that. My friends for example try to get with baddies only to be ghosted and left on delivered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:47 PM
-2

It is so objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:45 PM
1

They’re actually not. They like you or they don’t. If they don’t like you (find you hot) they will make things hard for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:36 AM
1

Lol even dating in 2010 was completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:28 AM
14

Age? In todays dating market (GenZ) your husband would absolutely struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:25 AM
7

Nah it’s just those girls you are attracted to are just not interested regardless of how you act. It’s a looks discrepancy issue. Those girls you aren’t attracted to are probs more in your league hence why they show interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:51 PM
21

Yes he probably is overestimating his looks level and league. Most guys are guilty of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:50 PM
1

Yes. If a super hot girl actually asked these RP guys out they’d drop their values in a heart beat. These RP guys probably never had the opportunity of an actual hot girl asking them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:33 PM
2

Fk your promotion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:29 PM
1

Stop the Pete Davidson comparisons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:37 PM
1

Blk pll
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:36 PM
1

Good looks can get an unconfident laid. Confidence can’t get an ugly guy laid
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:35 PM
0

If you are ugly/avg man. You can get with fat or chubby women. If you are hot guy: You get thin, gymmed out women, slim thick/busty
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:29 AM
1

Lol “meaningless sex” for men can cure their loneliness and depression. Getting casual sex is the ultimate validation, and also cuddles don’t hurt either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:10 PM
2

Getting consistent sex has done wonders for my mental health. When I didn’t have much sex in 2020 due to virus. I was depressed, anxious, and unmotivated. However when I finally hopped on tinder and got a cute girl with a booty. I was happy again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:00 PM
3

Agree but even the girls that don’t fuck around will break that rule for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:31 PM
6

What? These girls def exist. Especially in my major city. The girls I hang out with, will say that guy is so hot. Then at the end of the night they are making out and smashing in the guest bedroom..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:30 PM
1

What age group? I live in a college city, most women here 18-25 are in good shape. Thus the reason why avg men do not get chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:45 PM
5

No avg guys are delusional for sure about them getting with hot girls. The problem is that avg guys can’t even get with relatively thin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:05 AM
5

Oh yeah like the girls with slim waists and big butts and are proportionate. Yes those girls are in high demand and those girls are def not getting with avg men. I was talking the refrigerator shaped girls with broad shoulders and bellies. Those girls get with avg men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:03 AM
8

So hot girls get into LTR with avg men? From what iv seen women would rather be a side piece than to be LTR with avg guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:16 AM
7

In 2022? I heard of that like a 100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:13 AM
8

Yeah iv noticed this too. My short friends can get girls interested in them, but these girls are not attractive and are overweight. Thin women are in high demand and they know it, so they are super picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:20 AM
8

Sorry yeah there are def guys that genuinely like bbw. But these guys probs also watch fit girls too. And the discrepancy between views of the fit girls and fat girls is huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:38 AM
18

Lol fat fetish is just what guys tell themselves when they can’t get attractive women. Do you really think these guys would turn down a busty slim thick woman for an out of shape obese woman? Yes majority of men are settling and take whatever they can get. Majority of men do not have options when it comes to their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:15 AM
1

This is how the dating market works: -average men can only get with fat and unattractive women (casually) -only hot men can get with average to hot women (casually) Nowadays average men cannot get with thin women. If you are a thin woman you have insane value now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:52 AM
32

Normal average men. The dating market is terrible for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:50 AM
2

But they can show off the guy on tiktok and social media and get approval/validation. Which is extremely valuable for young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:17 PM
2

Lol have you noticed that almost anything women say about a man is about their looks or their height? Never about their job or personality ? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:15 PM
3

Lol ya, every redditor is apparently making millions and no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:10 PM
3

Ya you are right. The amount of money you need to make a difference in your dating life is in the millions. Not the 100-200k job with a respectable sounding title.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:09 PM
-5

Can you blame them tho The average guy has literally nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:34 PM
2

Not all of them are. But the ones that are, are just so picky. Even if the guy is rich and good looking, there is some problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:02 PM
2

The women that I work with (real estate agents) are all in their 30-40s and they are all very attractive. They have no problems meeting men and getting commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:56 PM
1

The #metoo have made men I know to not go to certain areas of the bars and libraries without cameras. Dating apps are just bad for unattractive people A guy that get laid consistently and without effort doesn’t watch porn. Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:21 PM
1

Most men are avg across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:28 PM
8

That’s not the problem tho…. The problem is that most men are not attractive enough for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:58 PM
3

Not men age 18-25.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:28 AM
2

Ya I agree. But how likely is a rich good looking guy that gets what he wants going to corny? Most of those guys (in my experience) are arrogant, loud, douchey, etc. in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:42 PM
16

That archetype is kinda dying in 2022. The tall good looking rich guy is the one that gets the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:31 PM
1

I go for both. Have a Hot girl with you elevates your status in like all aspects. Men envy/respect you, co workers, parents, etc. All just look at you differently for being with a legit hot girl. Also the sex is way better too, having an aesthetically pleasing girl makes it more pleasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:40 AM
5

Not true
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 09:57 PM
59

I think guys are comfortable with being single if they are getting some sort of attention from women. The guys that don’t get any attention from women (90%) that are constantly on the hunt and seeking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 09:19 PM
1

Any guy that’s super into red pill and Tate is not getting what they want in dating. So bottom 80%. These guys is one of or all: short, poor, ugly, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:21 AM
5

Nah a hot in shape 30 year old woman is way better than a fat 19 year old stoner girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:14 AM
4

Height, face, status > money, gym body. Also never lead with your wallet.
/r/AllPillDebate21/11/22 09:32 AM
1

I mean I’m pretty sure 90% of young men are trying to have as much casual sex as possible. So yeah 80% of men are not good looking enough for that. So 80/20 does exist for casual sex (and in most cases relationships with hot girls). And this is the only thing that matters for men 18-35.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:41 AM
11

Majority of men would stop participating in society. Because the truth is, is that majority of men will not be in relationships that they want. The lie that levelling up and you’ll get what you want is the false hope sold to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:24 AM
1

Nope that be bad for our evolution. And also do people think it’s a coincidence that people generally like the same type?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:45 PM
0

Lol emotional intelligence goes hang in hang with being unattractive and short. Do you really think there’s a tall good looking guy out there, that get negative feedback?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:18 AM
5

I agree with this. When guys know deep down they can’t get a girl they will trash her. Same thing for older unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:15 AM
10

Literally has nothing to do with Doja
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:15 AM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:19 AM
2

Nah it’s the most adrenaline inducing experience. Having a random cute girl in your bed is peak bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:18 AM
5

He’s trying to say he’s very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:14 AM
18

Ya and if they do they are with their bfs or friends. And not inviting at all to strange men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:13 AM
1

The guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:30 PM
1

Exactly it’s rly simple. Be chill and be fit that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:23 PM
1

Would you still go for the 100 M girl if she was fat, rude, old?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:23 PM
0

“Im a catch I got a good job” ya guys don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:20 PM
0

The one that’s prettier and more fit will get my pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:20 PM
1

But they have the options to smash in their own country. which makes it less creepy than the desperate sexless guy with no options that has to resort to sexpatting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:02 PM
4

Still won’t move the needle tho for hot girls. You need to have a lot of wealth..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:00 PM
1

So you don’t think majority of men want a thin girl? I’m pretty sure there is data that shows preference for thin women…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:58 PM
1

Maybe if they don’t have the options… I can assure you a guy will rather have a thin fit woman than a fat unhealthy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:48 PM
3

How do the girls look cute when you can’t see their faces ? Also they are fat? How is that in any way cute?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:47 PM
2

At least they ain’t fat tho. And isn’t the avg apparently fat? So technically these guys are above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:40 PM
1

Thicker sure but not fat. I can assure you 90% of dudes would rather a fit girl than a fat one…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:34 PM
7

Exactly, If they are fat they just aren’t attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:30 AM
2

I never said to give up. But the results of getting jacked aren’t going to turn out dating 180
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:31 AM
6

Nope. Not for the avg ugly guy. It might work if you have a good face but you’re just fat. But for the ugly guy that’s short, and get jacked? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:22 AM
19

They ain’t fat tho. They should at least be able to get someone avg weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:21 AM
4

Wait you think thin young women care about security, and stability at that age? Most college age girls wanna party and get with hot guys lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:08 AM
17

Exactly the fact that we are even debating them being in the same league shows how bad the market is for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:56 AM
13

Oh jeez…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:50 AM
15

Well in todays market, being a thin young woman has a lot of value regardless of facial aesthetics. So these avg guys are getting rejected instantly by these thin girls. Also I know these guys personally and it’s not like they don’t try to get with thin girls. It’s just those girls don’t entertain these guys at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:45 AM
17

? The guys are all fit? They all play sports and the first guy in the first pic is like ripped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:50 AM
20

No I know all these couple and the guys are gymmed out. The girls are all fat. That’s not looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:14 AM
6

Nope a gymmed out bunny is wayyy better for doggy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:27 AM
7

Yeah looks are more important than ever
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:25 AM
11

I was about to post something like this too. As a GenZ male iv notices almost all the guys I interact with are dating down. Fit guys with chunky girls, and not the good kind. Also the above avg to attractive girls are all single or are casually sleeping with top tier guys. The top tier guys that are in relationships are with attractive girls too. But yes your avg guy to slightly above avg guy is not getting with a thin girl. That is facts. Some examples of couple I personally of https://imgur.co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:20 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/KvjDcQQ I see these couple all the time too. It’s getting kinda crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:17 AM
10

https://imgur.com/a/KvjDcQQ These are the couples I see often when going out. Also how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:17 AM
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Some examples I personally know of (GenZ) couples https://imgur.com/a/KvjDcQQ
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:14 AM
5

They missed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:07 AM
1

Nah more like mid 20s.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 06:35 PM
13

How old are these people tho? What generation? Because the younger generation is 10x more superficial. Social proof is losing it’s value unless you have elite level social proof (borderline famous)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:21 PM
4

That guy will have a hard time getting with hot high value women still. Yes his doors might open up for the single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:19 PM
1

And that’s nothing to feel good about. Every man would rather have one rly hot girl over 100s of average to below average girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:08 AM
0

You seem broke short ugly guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:09 PM
3

Not dark skin tho. East Asian(Korean) 5’9
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:50 PM
10

I’m not tall and ethnic and do well in dating tho
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:10 PM
1

? He said that most dudes problems in dating are because they aren’t approaching enough…. But when you go to bars and clubs you guys approaching and getting rejected all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:47 PM
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Nope go to any bar or club or even concert and you will see tons of dudes trying to approach. The truth is, is that most men are just not attractive to most women. Also cold approaching is not the same as it was 10 years ago. With the rise of social media and online dating, women have access to the exact men that they want. So why would they get with some average guy approaching them ? Also how many top value dudes do you know that are consistently cold approaching? Most top value guys I know ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:20 PM
5

Online dating data is the most accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:39 PM
6

No the results will be completely different if the camera wasn’t stuck in their faces. If the camera was hidden or from far away this vid is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:59 PM
1

I usually send a dumb meme as a convo starter. Then go to snap. Yes some of them are cold messages others are tinder matches that DM on IG. I’d say I’d be a 8 if I was taller. But im average height. So probs like a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:27 PM
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25 m Pretty easily. I get DMs from tinder and from instagram. https://imgur.com/a/bjAPAR2 I have a hard time having casual with super hot girls tho. But I’m grateful for what I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:29 PM
1

You still believe that among GenZ women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:40 PM
1

In terms of dating? Or?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:36 PM
17

It ruined it for the avg guy. Before the avg guy could’ve had a chance because it was quite hard for women to have access to top tier men. But now with online dating they have that access so easily. And obviously attractive guys have no problems sleeping with them. So why would these women settle for avg guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:04 AM
3

Maybe because they can’t get them? Those Kim K type girls only get with the top % of guys. So naturally this will make guys feel rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:52 AM
7

Right but those aren’t as valued as height, face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:44 AM
5

Def have never seen a short average looking guy clean up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:43 AM
1

I disagree, real life dating is similar to online dating. When you see a random in person you will judge based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:56 PM
2

Ya…. So income, personality, social skills doesn’t matter when it comes down to getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:50 PM
11

Yes guys need to self improve but being hot is enough. Whenever I ask a girl I slept with why they did. First thing they say is “I thought you were cute.” Not I thought you were funny or whatever. Also after hanging out with enough girls and knowing how they talk. They talk openly about “how hot that guy is” and “I wanna fuck that guy”. So being hot is def enough in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:49 PM
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Point is women weigh looks heavily when selecting men. Other factors matter but looks matter the most in this social media age. I’m not blaming anyone either, as men are also just as superficial. But to say women don’t care about looks is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:35 PM
7

No you can’t see income, personality, social skills on tinder. Only looks. And the best looking guys get most of the matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:31 PM
4

Tinder data proves otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:23 PM
6

Most likely will be slight boost. Unless a guy goes from obese to really fit (highly unlikely)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:54 PM
10

Ya the gym isn’t going to affect your dating life that much as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:43 PM
65

No. But I think an avg girl that self improves. (Gyms hard, etc) Will see 10x the results than an avg guy that does the same self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 06:54 PM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:18 PM
1

Bars and clubs are not real life? What does that mean
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 06:28 PM
13

Lol 20-30 matches across 3 apps. You are def not a 8. But ya it’s tough out there for average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 06:04 PM
3

Tinder stats. In real life experience of clubs/bars. Good looking people get the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:44 PM
3

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:40 PM
0

Halo effect? Also let’s say you take two people one ugly one hot. Hot one gets positive reinforcement their entire life. Ugly one gets crapped on by everyone. Who do you think will have a better personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:10 AM
1

Nope. How is it rigged against you? Not sure what you were expecting as you are a small framed 5’6 guy in 2022. This is the problem, most men think they are the shit and expect women to line up to fk.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 04:09 AM
2

Exactly, the rich only get richer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 04:04 AM
6

Most good looking tall guys are successful tho. This is just a revenge fantasy. And let’s just say that hot guy isn’t investing in his future. I can tell you tho if he goes into any kind of sales he will find success pretty quickly. Halos effect is real and the good looking ones get most of the business.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 04:02 AM
1

Yeah there isn’t justice or equal in this world
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:02 AM
1

In todays economy getting rich is extremely slim
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:33 PM
3

Are these guys young guys? Is this before social media and dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:11 PM
2

Face, height, status, money, hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:24 AM
4

Pick the best guy . They pre reject like 90% of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:03 PM
1

I feel like both treat each other based on attractiveness level. A woman will likely treat a short unattractive man with hostility and will be creeped out. Where a man will treat an overweight unattractive women like an object. On the contrary, attractive women will be treated with more respect and will have so many high value trying to lock her down. For men the same thing. So if you are jaded you are probably unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:03 AM
5

Where did you travel?
/r/seduction03/11/22 11:40 PM
1

Hmm well I have with avg and maybe above avg women. But never seen it with hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:16 PM
1

Oh Are we talking about hot girls or your avg/slightly above avg girls? Because for objectively hot girls, they only entertain casual relationships with hot guys. I also know avg guy that hooks up with fat and/or ugly girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:22 PM
1

I have to see an ugly dude that gets laid a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:16 PM
2

Lol 90% of young men are not having sexual flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:29 PM
5

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:13 AM
2

So you are saying a normal weight guy with a good personality is going to have his pick of women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:42 AM
3

The average 18-30 year old man is obese? Hot Women don’t go for top 40%. They go for the top 5%. Backed by OLD data.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:52 AM
4

A huge gap between a 18 year old and a 27 year old.
/r/seduction01/11/22 06:00 PM
-3

I’m not talking celebs just your generic K-pop hair college fuccboi. And no he can def still feel inadequate even tho with his height and race. Because those things don’t auto make someone attractive.
/r/seduction01/11/22 05:01 PM
1

Would you be chill with your 18 year old daughter or sister smashing a 34 year old?
/r/seduction01/11/22 04:55 PM
-9

Those things don’t make a man attractive….. A 5’10 K-pop guy is gonna get wayyy more.
/r/seduction01/11/22 04:49 PM
47

Why you approaching teens as a 34 year old? Also this just shows that older men DONT have their pick of younger women.
/r/seduction01/11/22 04:13 PM
67

Bruh avg guys in general aren’t getting laid in 2022 regardless of race.
/r/seduction01/11/22 09:23 AM
113

Bruh GenZ Asian dudes slay hard in the west.
/r/seduction01/11/22 05:35 AM
5

I sleep around because it’s fun. It’s not a purposeful goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:50 AM
-2

Tell me if you still feel this way after hooking up with a legit 8-9/10 girl. The validation/feeling of accomplishment is not comparable.
/r/seduction31/10/22 11:41 PM
5

Red pill men can’t get high value women in general, and come here to complain. That’s why red pill guys get a lot of slander. Not because of the standards themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:25 PM
3

Yeah there is that exotic factor I guess. But if you blame your location for your lack of success, you focusing on the wrong thing.
/r/seduction31/10/22 08:44 AM
5

Ya iv noticed more and more bigger women with fitter (than them) men. It’s more common these days.
/r/seduction31/10/22 07:42 AM
4

No such thing. An unattractive guy is still unattractive just in a different country.
/r/seduction31/10/22 07:36 AM
13

Damn you seem like you got your stuff together but can’t even get a non overweight woman? This shows you how competitive the dating market is. Skinny attractive women have their pick. So you need to increase your value. And by value I mean looks, status. You got the height.
/r/seduction31/10/22 07:31 AM
64

Ya it’s not. Was at a Pierre Bourne concert with my girl. And there was this girl in front of us (she was by herself) and was approached by one guy after another. And seemed annoyed, and was just trying to watch the performance. Felt bad for her tbh. It was also kinda awkward when these guys would approach her with drinks….
/r/seduction31/10/22 07:27 AM
1

Oh I’m not talking about the avg girls. Im talking about the hot girls 7/10 above that are shooting for top. I doubt most men are this angry because of their inability to get any woman. They are angry because they can’t get cute girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:51 AM
8

You’re kidding right? These girls are validated 24/7 through social media if they are legit 8-10s. Don’t cap.
/r/seduction31/10/22 01:57 AM
3

I agree, I hate the advice of telling EVERY guy that they can become high value from doing XYZ. When I’m reality there is a ceiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:32 PM
6

What about the 5’4 guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:26 PM
12

Saying looks matter is blk pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:23 PM
4

It’s the ultimate validation for men tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:20 PM
1

Self improvement is def not some magic solution that these red pillers preach. This is why red pill is delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:18 PM
2

Nah they love going out. It’s just they are selective with who they go out with.
/r/seduction30/10/22 11:05 PM
4

Lol so be a provider? Bro girls are just as shallow as men in terms of looks.
/r/seduction30/10/22 10:45 PM
27

Those girls want the top of the top…. They know their value, so they want someone just as valuable or higher. So you can self improve I guess.
/r/seduction30/10/22 09:56 PM
5

Women want the top 5% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:10 PM
2

How many people in their 20-30s are obese tho? Also not being obese doesn’t boost the average guy that much. What boosts the average guy is height, wealth, good looks. And these things are uncontrollable. That’s the uncomfortable truth. So many dudes are struggling for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:07 PM
15

Looks matter the most
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:48 PM
4

But they also get positive feedback their entire lives so they’re less jaded and more positive people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:48 PM
74

Think everyone’s getting more and more depressed. And more likely to report it and seek help than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:25 AM
6

Or they just have that raw desire for hot guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:00 AM
28

Yes. But now with social media it’s just more in your face. Also women can afford to filter out men of bad height and still have loads of options. This is why the advice of just “up your game bro” to short men doesn’t work. Because they are filtered out before they open their mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:25 PM
5

It’s not that they’re lazy. It’s that they’re unattractive. You can put a ton of effort into your profile but if you 5’4 male you’re not gonna get matches…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:25 AM
3

Yes blue pill is just delusion. But red pill is pretty over optimistic. Like they preach that any avg guy can become a high value 8/10 guy from working out and acting “alpha”. But reality is, is that an avg guy can become probably above avg. but won’t ever become the hot guy that gets all the women. But that doesn’t sound good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 11:48 PM
-1

Red pill is blind optimism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:20 PM
1

Like a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:27 PM
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Cap on you being high value
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:55 AM
1

Where ? You mean going to SEA and seeing prositutes or green card chasers?
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 04:47 AM
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This will just help the top dudes get laid more, not the bottom dudes. In fact it might be worse for the bottom 80% as they will get rejected more and see that the top 20% are getting everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:05 PM
5

They are attracted to good looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:39 PM
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They value leanness and proportion. Go to South Korea girls there are hot af. They all have nice shapely butts not necessarily big but big from the side due to good proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:38 PM
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Does it matter? 80% of men take what they can get. They can’t afford any type of preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:32 PM
1

It’s not a viable strategy .. Men, if you are undesirable in your own country. You are undesirable everywhere.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 05:25 PM
5

It’s just looks. Iv met with a 28 year old from tinder. Her pics were definitely from when she was in her early 20s. Her face and body looked way more youthful and in better shape in her early 20s. Also she was pretty jaded and knew what she wanted. And assumed I was gonna bounce after we had sex. So mostly just bitterness and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:31 PM
17

That attractive man will have 10x the opportunities and chances simply due to the fact they are attractive. I don’t see how that is struggling. Sure even if one doesn’t work out (long term) they will have another opportunity awaking for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:46 AM
25

Yes attractive. Most physically attractive people are probably going to be more charismatic and social skilled due to positive feedback. And so how would it be complicated for them? Women pursue to these type of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:40 AM
82

They aren’t complicated. It’s really simple if you attractive you will have women interested in you. They will make it easy for you and smooth. If you aren’t that attractive then women will have low interest and make things harder. Because you are meh to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:33 AM
6

Yes this is like 80% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:49 PM
2

I think men that usually don’t get girls finally get a girl to like them, they will overrate that person. Just due to the fact that they have a girl that likes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:48 PM
3

Exactly if she was pretty with a nice body you’re view of her would be completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:46 PM
3

So a couple of your friends represent the masses lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:42 PM
3

Majority of men are with women that are less attractive than them. I notice this becoming more common among the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:40 PM
2

This whole thing sounds like a fantasy. How have you “made it”? Because you wouldn’t be wondering what you could be getting if you did. Make a tinder and tell us how many matches you getting. If you getting 100s then yeah you are in the top % But then that means you know exactly what’s out there for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:16 PM
2

Can you show us a low body fat % woman with that same bone structure? I think that would help your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:00 PM
8

More gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:33 PM
1

Yeah there are women that are salty about being alone. But what do these women look like? What’s their value? Because I know of very attractive women in their mid 30s that are gymmed out and still look hot. That don’t give af about their relationship status and they also have many high value suitors. Point is, I don’t think MGTOW dudes care about these unattractive women complaining on Reddit. But MGTOW dudes want to get with hot women. Which they never will, because they probs went MGTOW due to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:37 PM
1

So a good looking 5’7 guy gonna do better on masses than a good looking 6’0 guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:15 PM
1

It matters but you need tons of it to make a difference. Especially when you get out of college.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 06:10 PM
1

Ya but you need a lot of it to affect your dating life. And 99% of men won’t become celebs
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 06:09 PM
5

Most men I know of that struggle have similar traits (mid 20s) -Small build -under 5’9 Mostly just short smallish dudes not necessary fat or skinny. One is pretty jacked but struggles hard. Other friends that do decent are at least above 5’9 and decent build. Social skills had little to do with their struggles, girls we hang out with are just straight up not interested. Also money had little to do with their struggles.
/r/seduction22/10/22 09:30 PM
4

How can a 5’5 guy that has an asymmetrical face and large nose step up his game? I’m describing my friend btw, great guy has a good career in accounting, has good social skills and friends. But he struggles badly with dating, to the point where idk if he has gotten laid in the past 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:20 PM
2

Sure, but thinking of a good looking tall guy being depressed doesn’t change OP’s situation. And also what are the chances a tall young good looking guy is going to be depressed in this social media age?
/r/seduction22/10/22 03:45 PM
1

Ya it sucks bro. Don’t listen to the gaslighters here that will tell you that your game is the problem. Simple fact is they are just living a different life due to their looks. But with that money you can max out your looks a lot.
/r/seduction22/10/22 03:28 PM
2

Exactly, if a girl only wants you for money the sex isn’t gonna be enthusiastic.
/r/seduction22/10/22 03:26 PM
1

But it doesn’t tho when you look objectively good. That’s why OP is struggling.
/r/seduction22/10/22 03:24 PM
1

Only 13%? Almost ever dude I interact with (early 20s) are all in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:38 PM
7

Or maybe because they aren’t very attractive? Why would a girl pick an avg guy over a slightly more attractive guy that makes slightly more money? I know so many dudes that are nice, interesting, make over 100k, have plenty of hobbies. But they struggle badly because they are under 5’9 and not very attractive facially.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:58 AM
5

It gives a sense of control to young avg men but reality is, is that your dating success is not in your control at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:55 PM
0

Horrible if you an avg guy Great if you are good looking and popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:17 AM
21

Online dating and social media have completely destroyed the average guy’s value in the past 9 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:36 PM
2

Exactly, an average face slim young woman has way more options than a slim average male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:36 PM
1

Red pill doesn’t work. It’s a marketing device used by these dating coaches for lonely men to buy their scam courses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:34 PM
11

Of course 20 year old women are more attractive. It’s just annoying when 30 year old dudes feel entitled and sell this notion that all 20 year old girls are going for older guys lol. A hot 25 year old guy that’s rich is going to beat out the 30 year old every time with the same attributes. And like 99% of 30 year old guys aren’t desirable enough to attract hot college aged women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:59 AM
2

Agree with this. And iv been seeing this happen way more frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:06 AM
0

Yes this. Guys wants hot girls. And hot girls only go for the top guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:03 PM
1

Yes the 7 gets more than the 5 but not more than what the 8 will get compared to the 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:01 PM
2

Right but like the jump from 7-9’s experience will differ greater than from jumping to 5-7. Men are disgruntled because they aren’t pulling like the 9s (requiring no effort).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:58 PM
1

I think the issue for these men is that a 7/10 isn’t getting with a 7/10 girl. Those 7/10 girls are getting with at least an 8 guy. And there is a huge gap between 7 and 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:56 PM
2

Are those stats from the GenZers?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:55 PM
1

Might as well try tho. It’s fulfilling and there might be change one can make it. But yes don’t put all your energy into it and expect the worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:54 PM
2

Exactly and there’s a huge gap between a 7 and 8. People
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:42 PM
1

There a bigger gap between a 7 to an 8 than 5-7 which is where the 8s will get casual effortlessly from dating apps. A 7 still has to work for it on the apps (but will get more matches than the 5) This is why so many dudes be bugging.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:35 PM
1

Pretty true. I’m no celeb but I get plenty from dating apps. But I don’t think that extra 10 girls for the week is going to me happier than getting with 4 girls for the week. After a certain level, the satisfaction also drops off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:26 AM
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They shouldn’t. Yes you are right, women shoot their shot all the time(way more subtlety) through social media, their friends, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:19 PM
15

You sound like fun.
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:01 PM
12

You really think shitty guys don’t get women? I know frat guys who are the worse people but still have all girls flocking to them because they are tall and good looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:12 PM
7

Ya I don’t think that’s gonna make a difference in terms of the avg guy getting the hot girl lol
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/22 07:53 PM
3

What even is “game”?
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/22 07:03 PM
90

No such thing as kino, push pull, frame, etc. There’s she attracted to you and makes it easy for you, or she isn’t attracted and that means no matter what you say or do will change that. It’s really simple.
/r/seduction16/10/22 06:53 PM
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Noticed this too. These guys are decent looking tall not fat. And the girl they with is out of shape and not attractive .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:13 PM
1

Who’s gonna do better a good looking 5’7 guy or a 6’0 guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:16 AM
0

Weight is mostly genetic just like a man’s dating success. I know some girls that eat a ton but don’t gain weight and still maintain great figures. While there are girls that don’t eat much but look bigger (big shoulders, narrow hips, small butt add to that illusion) And most diet programs are a scam. Just like the red pill guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:10 AM
4

If red pill worked these dudes would watch one vid then did the “self improvement” and gotten what they wanted. But instead these red pill YouTubers have the same viewers that come back for more to “level up bro.” Which they don’t, because not everyone can become a millionaire (99% chance you won’t) And not everyone can become some tinder god.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:24 AM
5

If tinder isn’t working you probs aren’t as handsome as you think….
/r/seduction16/10/22 01:01 AM
2

It’s funny that it’s main stream but STILL most men are still undesirable. Guys If you are average there is nothing you can do to become above average. If you are below the average height, sorry but that automatically puts you in below average category no matter the self improvement you do. Red pill is really a scam, don’t fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:59 AM
2

And this is where you won’t get a reply. Because the red pill is just marketing tool used by these gurus to sell their patreon and courses
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:58 AM
7

Can’t wait for this to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:57 AM
28

I know so many jacked dudes that struggle mainly due to their height and face. But it does help. it isn’t a guarantee tho, and I know guys that are really discouraged after not getting any results after working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:05 PM
1

No such thing as seduction.
/r/seduction15/10/22 04:06 PM
1

This is true. When I was popular in high school I had multiple girls into me whom I never spoke to. Their friends would tell me that they into me and made it so easy. In college tho it’s a different level. There are legit mini Celebs in college and competition is high. I still got with girls but I had to initiate everything and do the whole tinder thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:30 AM
1

I disagree that the 7 will do better than a 10. At that level of look the 10 can just go online and have hot girls come over without any real social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:03 PM
13

Meh redpillers don’t have a shot regardless if they took that pill or not. The chances of them getting an actual hot girl in the age range of 18-30 is super low. Like those girls are going for the top of the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:46 PM
10

This is why PUA is basically dead in this tinder age. Tinder has exposed the reality for average to slightly above average dudes that they are the last pick. It’s never been a better time to be good looking and it’s never been a more bad time to be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:57 AM
2

It’s because they are fed the lie that they can become high value.. But high value is inherited.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:41 AM
0

Sure, But also the majority of men that struggle with dating are just too average or just plain unattractive and short. Lack of Positive reinforcement played a huge role in these guys’ life.
/r/seduction12/10/22 03:09 PM
4

Lol based on your comments and from the post you seem kind of a lot to be around… If everyone is an asshole, maybe you are the asshole.
/r/seduction12/10/22 03:07 PM
1

Lol at the 40+ year old men saying they in their prime. Realistically it’s : 20-30s for both men and women. Anything else is just reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:03 PM
9

Sorry but jacked =\= getting women I know so many jacked dudes that just get no attention from girls. Problems they face: lack of height, balding, unattractive face.
/r/seduction12/10/22 12:17 AM
2

A lot of dudes think women are checking them out but that’s not common. The fact that these girls weren’t responsive means you read the signals wrong.
/r/seduction11/10/22 10:09 PM
1

Matter bruh
/r/seduction11/10/22 10:07 PM
5

Still wouldn’t be as successful as the taller guy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:51 PM
16

Nah there’s a huge gap between above average and top 1% percenter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:34 AM
2

Exactly, No girl sees the dollar amount in your bank account and gets turned on. Just have your own place and don’t be a complete cheap ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:21 AM
1

What type of women are you attracting? What age? Also I know plenty of guys that makes as much as you, but they are struggling due to height, hair, and looks issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:20 AM
1

Money doesn’t really change your dating life unless you want gold diggers that probs have good looking side dudes. But money does enable you to become better looking tho. So it depends. But I got the most girls when I was 19 and broke than when I got a good paying job in my mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:09 AM
3

Red pill guys are the most delusional. They think they can become all high value by self improvement. Which doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:48 AM
1

Active on dating apps. And not being super forward on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:56 PM
1

Even if it means exploiting vulnerable women in South East Asia?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:52 PM
22

Do you feel that there’s a way to repair it or should I just move on?
/r/seduction10/10/22 07:52 PM
57

Low effort means low interest
/r/seduction10/10/22 07:48 PM
1

What’s your recommendation then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:48 PM
1

Avg men should focus on other things. Not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:42 PM
6

It won’t work. These girls like attractive men. As soon as they come to the west they are going to divorce especially if the girl is attractive. Their will be a richer more attractive man that will take her in. There is no solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:20 PM
3

No the solution if for bob to not care about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:22 PM
9

As soon as that girl goes to the West and sees the other better men and better lifestyle she could live by divorcing Bob she’s going to do it ASAP. This is why this doesn’t work, people adapt to their environment and the grass is greener on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:57 PM
4

It does work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:53 AM
13

That’s what happens. This girl iv been hooking up from Thailand, her mom came to Canada with a Canadian man. Married for 6 months then got alimony and is now a perm resident here. It’s sad man. There truly is no answer for undesirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:46 AM
1

And what if the guy is 5’5 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:53 AM
1

Sure
/r/seduction10/10/22 03:38 AM
15

Ya apps and social media have made dating super optimal and balanced for women. Which just destroyed the value of the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:04 AM
8

What steps? Becoming rich? That’s a long shot in todays economy. By improving looks? Height is apart of your look, and you can’t grow taller nor change you facial structure. By gaming status? Status and good looks go hand in hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:03 AM
11

This so true. Rich get richer, poor get poorer. This is why PUA doesn’t make sense and RP doesn’t make sense. If it doesn’t happen then it wasn’t ever supposed to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:00 AM
1

Nah man status matters. The D1 players and frat guys get tons due to their status and connections in college. So I’m confused. You said you feel others are better than you due to their looks and height and status but then you say those things don’t matter?
/r/seduction10/10/22 02:47 AM
1

You should still try. But gonna be honest, if you don’t offer something it’s going to be super tuff for you. And confidence/personality isn’t going to cut it if you are looking to hookup. You need good looks and/or status.
/r/seduction10/10/22 02:25 AM
2

Lol not everyone thinks like you. And Yeah I have lowered my standards for casual but why not? It’s fun for me and fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:17 AM
1

Works for me… I get what I want. That’s all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:05 AM
11

Pretty much. Like no one cares, especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:43 PM
31

Invest in VR and video game stocks. As more average men (majority of men) get phased out of the dating market they are going to turn to VR and video games. Also they probably will have less incentive to work so companies are going to rely way more on automation and machinery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:42 PM
1

This is pretty accurate tbh. In todays world the chances of the average guy becoming high Value is like winning the lottery. This is where RP fails because they preach every man can become high value through self improvement. Which is just delusional as there are limits due to genetics and background. A man that immigrated here and becoming a self made millionaire with a very good social circle is almost never gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:38 PM
21

It’s going to get worse for sure. Time to capitalize on it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:31 PM
6

Girls don’t really do direct approaches unless in a party setting. They usually do indirect approaches.
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:48 PM
2

Yes they do. They tell their friends to tell me so and so likes you.
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:44 PM
8

Nah the attractive ones are all online. Unattractive ones obviously won’t do well online so they have resort to cold approach/in real life interactions. So I think the avg has gone down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:45 PM
14

No such thing as game. If you aren’t her type no matter what you say or do will get her sexually interested. You can’t negotiate attraction. Yes you could’ve done the best push pull techniques lol (which don’t work) and she would’ve still said no.
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:27 PM
4

Why do you care so much? Focus on your own shit
/r/seduction08/10/22 05:35 PM
5

Blackpill is super accurate and truth. It’s only annoying due to the extremists. But yes Blackpill has the most evidence and everyone knows looks matter the most.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 10:20 PM
1

Oh for sure avg guys can get girl friends. But how hot are the girls? Also keywords: Before Dating Apps dating apps and social media have permanently changed dating. Not sure why you are bringing up the past when dating was completely different.
/r/seduction07/10/22 10:04 PM
1

Both will yield the same results.
/r/seduction07/10/22 09:38 PM
11

Nah attractive dudes dgaf about being this way or that way. Red pill has a lot of delusion. Like no way every guy can be high value by just working on themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:15 PM
16

Lol there is no advanced game come on bro. Most of these PUA coaches are scammers bro.
/r/seduction07/10/22 04:49 PM
5

Literally have the same problem. I want to meet someone IRL but it seems like I don’t get many looks. Where as on tinder I get matches, DMs, and meetups. In person if feels like I get “no matches”. Honestly I think it’s because dating is shifting more online every year.
/r/seduction07/10/22 04:10 PM
64

There isn’t a “good” place for average-unattractive dudes to go. It just depends on that guy’s patience and pain threshold. At a club/bar where alcohol is involved, an unattractive guy will get brutally rejected. At a house party or friends day out, they won’t get brutally rejected but will soft rejected: “maybe next time”. On dating apps they just won’t get matches. Which is why you see tons of average dudes on these apps, because it isn’t as brutal as getting shut down at the club in front of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:26 PM
14

Old man you seem so mad lol.
/r/seduction06/10/22 09:50 PM
4

Evidence or it didn’t happen.
/r/seduction06/10/22 09:34 PM
23

Because they don’t think you are their type. You can’t sleep with every girl, regardless of how well you guys get along.
/r/seduction06/10/22 04:32 PM
18

You’re not doing anything wrong. You can’t force attraction. A girl know if they would sleep/friend zone/ignore you within like 2 seconds of seeing you. All you can do is find girls that find you attractive. Which is why I think cold approaching is a waste of time.
/r/seduction06/10/22 01:17 AM
1

Face,height, matters more than good job, hobbies, not watching porn lol.
/r/seduction06/10/22 12:01 AM
206

People here will tell you to work on your personality, self esteem, etc. Don’t listen to them. You need to get rich or something.
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:59 PM
11

Hot 18-23 dgaf that a guy has a good paying job. Younger women are superficial af. They want the frat guy, football player.
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:58 AM
28

Halo effect: Good looking guy talks to girl will be seen as: -bold -confident -charismatic Same approach made but by ugly short guy: -creepy -weird -harassment It’s been scientifically proven.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:45 AM
3

So you don’t recommend changing one’s looks but more so becoming an interesting?
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:44 AM
2

There’s nothing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:43 AM
3

Then how come I get laid by just some pics and one sentence in my tinder profile? I have a feeling most dudes in here are young dudes that are just trying to get laid… And the best way to do that is to get social media and getting good looking.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:27 AM
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I don’t think successful men or women in general care. Because the guys that are into that stuff are usually low value guys that have no sex lives. Do you think a guy that gets laid a ton and has a great social life actually cares about this and cares about “showing them”? They don’t. Because they are too busy getting laid and having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:25 AM
9

A hot 20 year guy is going to beat out a shorter/less attractive 28 year old regardless of life experience. The identical twins aren’t only competing with each other. They are competing with 1000s of dudes with similar life experiences but they are also richer, taller, etc. I think op needs more realistic advice than just get more life experience.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:23 AM
72

Getting almost no matches, not getting girls in person, etc. Are just experiences of an unattractive guy. You should max out your looks.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:13 AM
7

Lol so 20 year olds don’t get laid? There are so many dudes that are getting laid at almost all ages. Age isn’t really a good excuse nor will things get better with age.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:12 AM
2

True. But at that point might as well just move onto someone else that makes it clear.
/r/seduction03/10/22 10:45 PM
8

Same age. Most important thing I learned is that she’s either into or isn’t.
/r/seduction03/10/22 10:41 PM
1

Yes dating apps. So simple.
/r/seduction03/10/22 10:38 PM
6

I mean ya but you if are around the same level as those men then you can compete. Everything in life is a competition. So don’t worry about them just yourself.
/r/seduction03/10/22 10:30 PM
0

Younger women are WAY less jaded.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/22 04:10 AM
5

Lol not at all. There’s levels to it. The girls that straight up ask or are easy are def not in the hot category. Hot girls are extremely hard to hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:08 AM
21

Agreed. (Guys) When someone is into you, it’s so obvious and transparent. For example, they want to be around you, hang out with you, etc. In a club setting, they ask if you want a drink, they put their around you, they ask to dance, etc. It’s so obvious. On dating I have had girls straight up ask if I’d like a FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:17 PM
8

Most people can… It’s just when you get none of it you start thinking other nonesense… When someone is into me. It’s so obvious and clear that I know can probs get with them then and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:15 PM
7

Nice guy just means guys that not sexually attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:13 PM
1

Yeah. IOI are so obvious.
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:11 PM
1

You know he’s just saying that to sell people his courses and products right? And a girl couldn’t care less about your “frame” if she’s not attracted to you in the first place. You can’t negotiate attraction.
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:05 PM
1

The fact that guys here stress that looks don’t matter. Just shows how much it matters…..
/r/seduction01/10/22 09:56 PM
2

Lol this is where this looks don’t matter advice fails.
/r/seduction30/09/22 03:18 PM
1

Exception to the rule. You’ll also most likely notice those couples.
/r/seduction30/09/22 03:17 PM
11

I get the message. But the majority of men struggle due to their poor looks. Look at those dudes posting their tinder profiles for reviews. What do they all have in common? And I have yet to see a legit player that was not good looking.
/r/seduction30/09/22 04:49 AM
1

You just aren’t their type. Change if you want to try and fit their “type”. But as of now they ain’t interested.
/r/seduction28/09/22 04:20 PM
3

Lol exactly, dating is not in mens control. Which is why there is so much frustration.
/r/seduction27/09/22 11:06 PM
7

Iv seen plenty of examples of dudes improving but it has done nothing for their dating lives. Just know improvement doesn’t equal to success.
/r/seduction27/09/22 11:05 PM
24

It’s only creepy if she ain’t attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:59 PM
3

She’s either attracted or isn’t. It’s really simple.
/r/seduction27/09/22 10:47 PM
0

Then why does cold approach have such a low success rate?
/r/seduction27/09/22 08:15 PM
3

This doesn’t mean anything. As there are guys on tinder that do both and they are good looking and rich. A low value guy Cold approaching doesn’t surpass the high value guy online.
/r/seduction27/09/22 06:55 PM
2

Yeah it’s a waste of time in 2022. Do people rly think that hot girls that have great options in their DMs (guys with the full package) Are going to settle for an avg guy?
/r/seduction27/09/22 06:47 PM
2

Because it doesn’t.
/r/seduction27/09/22 05:34 PM
1

Bruh east Asian girls are fire. Especially the ABGs.
/r/seduction27/09/22 05:33 PM
3

Yes majority
/r/seduction27/09/22 05:29 PM
3

There’s no good reply to this… The fact is, your friend will have a very difficult time.
/r/seduction27/09/22 05:55 AM
0

It just means you aren’t high value.
/r/seduction27/09/22 02:20 AM
8

Because the amount of status you need is quite a lot and you need to work for you. Looks and hotness is what you are born with.
/r/seduction26/09/22 03:38 PM
0

So did you move? Or do you abstain for 8 months out of the year 😆
/r/seduction26/09/22 03:32 PM
4

Looks matter first then status
/r/seduction26/09/22 03:31 PM
1

Then why can’t you do it in the west? Why do you have to travel to a 3rd world country?
/r/seduction26/09/22 03:27 PM
14

It is simple. Attraction comes down to looks. I know plenty of dudes that have 0 personality but are tall and good looking and have girls thirsting for them. It is so simple, just look good.
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:46 PM
3

Ya no men won’t only be chosen based on looks. But it will become a more important thing as social media and online dating keep getting bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:09 AM
2

If you have to travel… You know it’s over for ya
/r/seduction26/09/22 05:12 AM
1

You can take Blackpill 2 ways.
/r/seduction26/09/22 01:14 AM
8

They’re matches. Anything else is an outlier. Redpillers love to shoot above too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:05 AM
0

It’s not that subjective. Tall, fit, clear skin, rich, head full of hair are universally attractive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:00 AM
15

This is changing tho. Women are looking for looks more and more. Don’t blame em tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:59 AM
-2

Anecdotal evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:58 AM
1

Realistically no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:58 AM
9

I don’t get it are you bringing it up? No one likes the guy that brags about stuff, and you’re mistaken if dudes are going to be praising g you.
/r/seduction25/09/22 07:52 PM
0

Doesn’t count
/r/seduction25/09/22 07:40 PM
2

Means nothing.
/r/seduction25/09/22 05:52 PM
3

No such thing as game. Can’t force attraction.
/r/seduction25/09/22 05:51 PM
3

Just be a top guy bro
/r/seduction25/09/22 05:40 PM
3

Sorry bro but fit attractive girls are at the top of the chain. Unless you yourself are legit a 8/10 they won’t f with you.
/r/seduction25/09/22 08:31 AM
-1

Agreed. Why waste time on something that will bring almost no success? It’s like trying to win the lottery.
/r/seduction25/09/22 02:04 AM
1

No but they are going for very attractive young fit women. They need to be realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:11 PM
2

But it works?
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:59 PM
2

That’s why majority of redpillers fail. They shoot way out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:59 PM
1

Majority of men aren’t going for the women that are on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:23 PM
12

If you upload good pics and have a decent following. It’s a good way for social proof.
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:50 AM
9

How so?
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:42 AM
9

People here will say it doesn’t count because you didn’t cold approach lol. Keep doing online dating bro.
/r/seduction23/09/22 06:26 PM
1

Eh don’t feel bad about it. They have so many options and there’s always a better looking dude they turn their attention to.
/r/seduction23/09/22 03:38 PM
3

Exactly, they know they “that dude.” They gonna act like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:05 AM
1

Kyler Murray had a sorority dedicated to him at Oklahoma. Crazy stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:57 AM
3

They still have suitors due to the insane amount of wealth they have accumulated by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:55 AM
67

You described this sub perfectly.
/r/seduction23/09/22 01:13 AM
2

It’s pretty objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:40 PM
1

Men overestimate their SMV and looks.
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:34 PM
5

Yea because I’m at my happiest when I have the pretty girl with the nice butt in my bed.
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:31 PM
1

This proves that attraction isn’t something a man can just work and have You either have it or don’t.
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:29 PM
1

Lool was about to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:23 PM
-1

Exactly…. He’s trying to soothe his ego by claiming that older women are more attractive… If these younger attractive women were into him he’d be saying completely different things..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:22 PM
1

Take the L and move on.
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:14 PM
1

But that just means you aren’t high enough level even for the “avg” people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:47 PM
1

Online dating is basically the real world unfiltered. The hot person not swiping on you is a good indicator that you guys aren’t in the same league. If you are only matching with “lower quality” people then that’s your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:43 PM
8

That fear is very real tho. The avg guys I know don’t want what little confidence they have to be destroyed by rejection. Rejection is not healthy. Also dating apps tell you that like 99% of women y the avg guy sees will reject them (swipe left)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:42 PM
5

What guys think are attractive: Beard Muscular Clothes are “fitted” Works hard Short hair “Masculine” What girls find attractive: Height Pretty face with masculine features Good proportionate body Good head of hair
/r/seduction21/09/22 07:05 PM
6

Sorry bro but I don’t think any of these women were interested. If they were, you would be with them and not so jaded into making a long post about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:41 PM
1

Exactly what I was thinking 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:41 PM
7

There are no “tricks” she’s either thinks you are attractive or doesn’t. It’s really not that complicated.
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:11 PM
1

Guys overestimate their own looks and underestimate others. This guy is prob better looking than you are giving credit. Not to mention the fact he seems pretty connected as well.
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:10 PM
1

This.
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:09 PM
1

Lol she got 50 msgs just like that bro. Just reply with anything, doubt you’ll get a response tho.
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:09 PM
3

Nothing if she’s into you, she won’t ghost.
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:07 PM
1

Nah she’s either interested or isn’t.
/r/seduction21/09/22 05:30 AM
4

You don’t think a successful good looking guy will have more friends than a basement guy? Or that the family members would be more proud/happy as well?
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:30 PM
1

Bruh this sub is a wreck. It’s all about SMV.
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:22 PM
2

I love these replies. No more “push pull methods” and other phone tricks. It’s either she’s interested or she isn’t.
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:19 PM
5

Everything in life is a competition bro.
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:14 PM
-2

There’s no such thing as game
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:34 PM
-2

You can’t be using millionaire celebrities as comparables. Any guy with enough clout and money can get girls. But they are in the top 0.01% The average guy that makes 100K a year with non model looks and 5’6 is going to struggle.
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:49 PM
2

Op gonna sound tuff but you need to level up hard. Because of your height you get out competed for the HOT girls. I don’t doubt you could probably get some cute girls, but the hot girls want the cream of the crop. So you need to get your money up and looks up more if you can.
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:05 PM
-6

Stop gaslighting, those girls rejected him because he wasn’t as attractive as those other guys. Look what op says, his friends smashed that girls friends already. Op also said he is short. This has NOTHING to do with personality. Op didn’t do anything wrong here in terms of his personality.
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:04 PM
2

*avg girls will approach. Hot girls do NOT approach unless you are super hot/rich. And by hot I mean tall, and conventionally good looking.
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:00 PM
0

All right first of all, the hot girls you want on apps are going for top 10% dudes. You are 5’6, why would a hot girl go for that when they can get a 6’2 dude in a second? So how do you upgrade ? Well you need to be either rly good looking or rich/clouted. And you are in a weird area (average) where the fat and ugly girls want you. But the pretty fit girls don’t.
/r/seduction18/09/22 04:57 PM
0

That wasn’t his question tho.
/r/seduction18/09/22 04:53 PM
69

Guys, if she’s skinny/fit and young she’s out of your league if you aren’t at least an 8/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:51 PM
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