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| 23 | How to argue against the "(cishet) men are inherently more dangerous" rhetoric?So I'll take a different tack then a lot of folks and say this. Are cishet men inherently dangerous? If the answer is affirmative, end of story. Why bother arguing with someone who perceives a vast swath of society to be *uncivilized". If it's not inherent, then what are we doing to prevent it? If you wanted to argue this on racial lines, most decent people would say that there are a variety of socioeconomic factors that lead folks into lives of crime and make them more dangerous people. Funny h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/05/23 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Finding a therapist as a manMy therapist is a black woman in her 30s and she's always been extremely open to my struggles with masculinity and being a man. Granted, she was not entirely aware of how difficult men could have it when dating and wanting to be pursued, but she happily listened to my experiences and seemed surprised with the new information. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/22 12:28 AM |
| 21 | Unconscious biases in tech job interviewsFrom my - granted, limited - experience, women tend to be far more anxious and self-effacing when it comes to the whole application/interview process. My ex would wait weeks on weeks for "entry level" jobs to open up because if she saw anything in the "required skills" column she didn't have experience with, she figured she wasn't a good fit and they wouldn't choose her. I wasn't ever able to convince her that most job postings ask for the moon and are willing to settle for much less in terms of… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/10/22 03:51 PM |
| 19 | Bias against reserved menHonestly I'm fine with that - if they're up front and honest about it. Kink is kink, it doesn't necessarily mean someone believes that kind of thing or wants it 24/7. But it sucks to not get told it and then someone basically wants you to be something in the bedroom you aren't | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 10:07 PM |
| 58 | Bias against reserved menIt's so fucking frustrating. I hear from so many progressives about how men should be able to escape gender roles and they continue to enforce them at every meaningful turn. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 06:16 PM |
| 8 | Has anyone here had feminists and the broader ideology have lasting negative affects on there life?Late to this, but dating someone who identified as a feminist has forever changed who I am as a person. I was just finding myself politically at the time so I thought I'd be open minded and listen to her. She started out with the usual women's rights talking points and I'm listening and agreeing because of course I want women to have equal opportunities and success as men. Why wouldn't I want that?? But over time her rhetoric changed. She got a lot more personal, and linked a lot more of her exp… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/22 03:43 AM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungeMy ex took the time to write a post about how much she suffered growing up as an ugly girl because her friends got the attention and fawning from boys and she did not. It was a wholly tasteless display from someone who seemed to believe that ugly guys never had legitimate reasons to feel badly about their looks and how it affected their lives. She literally is pouting over not getting attention and simultaneously yelling at ugly men for feeling "entitled" to relationships and I just cannot. She'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/07/22 05:48 AM |
| 4 | What is your definition of masculinity?Literally just respect. That's all. For me, being a "masculine" man has everything to do with how you interact with and treat other people and less to do with what you enjoy, your hobbies, your skills, or your presentation. You could be the most flamboyant campy person in the world and as long as you treat people respectfully in adversarial situations I'll consider that masculine as hell. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/07/22 05:58 PM |
| 24 | Radical Feminist Mom Requesting HelpI can only speak to my own experience here - my parents had a very level headed view of gender growing up. But in college I dated someone who held many of your same beliefs, and it almost broke me as a person. These were crucial years in my self exploration and I internalized so many horrible things because of it. I am happy you can admit to being too hard on men, but be aware that this is not going to be fixed by reading a few books and mulling them over. This will likely take a radical change … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 09:53 PM |
| 5 | I feel like it takes a special kind of ignorance to not see that male gender expectations are massively harmfulThat's been my position for a while now. Men are exactly what society wants them to be - suckered into a rigid role that provides a lot of capitalist benefits at the expense of being a full fledged human. It's great that people pay lip service to wanting something different. But the overwhelming pressure from everyone in my life - just as much from women as men - is that I have a specific role and a job and I'm supposed to fall in line or be crushed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 09:33 PM |
| 6 | Does anyone else on this sub feel completely alienated from traditional gender roles? (rant/personal confession).I mean, it's nice, but it's bizarre. She's also the only woman that I have met that seems to actually enjoy when men are feminine/soft in a positive way and not some bizarre psuedo-fantasy of demasculinization "breaking" a man. Wasn't trying to suggest that you find a domme or anything, BDSM isn't for everyone, but these people who actually encourage men to be whoever they are are out there in at least some small number. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/06/22 04:45 PM |
| 18 | Does anyone else on this sub feel completely alienated from traditional gender roles? (rant/personal confession).As someone who's actually found a domme who's... unapologetically into men. It's such a weird fucking experience and it breaks my brain every time we hang out. Like, I tried to cuddle her once. She wouldn't have it. She demanded to cuddle me and that's the only way she wanted it. It feels like someone lit my brain on fire because all of a sudden I got to just be without trying to make someone else happy. I think that's one of my major frustrations with the male gender role. Women are absolutely … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/06/22 01:27 PM |
| 6 | The psychological hell of an erection.Oh, absolutely agreed. And in a lot of modern contexts you can't really say anything about the effects of it either. Like in my case if I had said anything about not wanting to be a guy or be saddled with male sexuality then I'd have been bashed further for not being empathetic to "the real issues" or "misunderstanding women". If you don't mind an intrusive question... how are things with guys in terms of understanding sexuality? I'm bi so I'm definitely interested in trying that out but I feel … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 07:26 PM |
| 13 | The psychological hell of an erection.I actually internalized a ton of that from when I was with her. I felt nasty and like if I wanted sex it was just me being stupid and not because I cared about intimacy or a relationship or anything like that. Oddly enough it triggered a ton of dysphoria for me - I wanted nothing other than to be a woman and to be rid of awful persistent erections and external signs that I was aroused, to be sleek and svelte and to have my sexuality be appreciated and desired and not some harsh thing I'm lumping… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 06:22 PM |
| 5 | The psychological hell of an erection.That pretty much describes her | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 05:46 PM |
| 21 | The psychological hell of an erection.A friend of mine has told me his girlfriend was angry,because whenever they cuddled with each other his penis was getting hard. Which she interpreted as some sexual mania and his inability to be romantic. Oh my GOD this has happened to me. Very very SJW type girlfriend just chewed me out to no end and gave me many verbal dressing downs because most often we'd cuddle and I'd get a spontaneous erection. She literally chastised me for it and said I wasn't capable of love and all I thought about was… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 05:03 PM |
| 0 | About patriarchy theory on this subI edited that sentence as much as I feel comfortable with, at the behest of the mods. It's up to them to lock or unlock the post at this point. I find it extremely frustrating because we'll get nowhere fast if we brush aside legitimate sexism and racism that's occurred in the past as "patriarchy theory". Feminists aren't wrong when they say that historically, white men have had their ventures prioritized. The caveat is that it's mainly upper class white men in the western world, and certainly no… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem like the hardest thing to get people to admit is that men can have unique experiences due to their maleness?With all due respect, I chose the words "generally" and "many" quite specifically so it wouldn't be a complete generalization. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 01:51 PM |
| 5 | LWMA Lounge May 2022The top post on TwoXChromosomes is on some shit right now. Like, I'm all for criticizing men who espouse right wing beliefs... but the post literally takes men and degrades them to a near fetishistic point. This is literally on the front page of reddit and I can't help but get the feeling like they'd rather spout hate on completely random average men and not anyone who has the power to make more charitable laws. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/22 12:50 AM |
| 1 | DUDES ROCKI'm not even OP but hey, if it works it works 😂 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/05/22 07:28 PM |
| 1 | DUDES ROCKGeologists | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/05/22 07:08 PM |
| 3 | LWMA Lounge May 2022Something in my head keeps telling me I want a vagina. Mental health is complicated. That is all. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/05/22 02:50 PM |
| 3 | Feminist misreading of the “you’re a pussy” insultMaybe, maybe not. But we could definitely afford to get this information out there more. Honestly I'm pretty damn sure she knew and just didn't care. I agree with you that the information should be shared but she was so into entomology that I'd be positively shocked if she didn't know the true origin of the word. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/22 11:10 PM |
| 7 | Feminist misreading of the “you’re a pussy” insultUgh, don't fucking remind me of this. My ex used to straight up insult me, who doesn't even USE pussy as an insult, projecting her insecurities and saying all kinds of bullshit about it like "you probably think I'm a pussy, huh? That's so sexist of men, god. You guys know that pussy should really be a compliment, right? Pussies are way stronger than dicks, they can go through childbirth and recover, and take a pounding from even the biggest dicks no problem. Dicks are honestly pathetic in compar… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/22 02:08 PM |
| 13 | People are losing their minds over the fact that some women may now be forced into parenthood against their will - something men already deal withDon't get me wrong here dude, I get the anger. But this is a pretty big fucking deal and it deserves to be treated as such. We shouldn't reduce ourselves to a position where we have little rights and are okay if everyone else feels the burn of that as well. Not to mention that the actual act of abortion is one I'm willing to grant that things are different for men than for women and that's okay. Not that men shouldn't have the right to financial abortion - they absolutely should - but actual, me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/05/22 11:13 PM |
| 9 | And this post is why we’re here and not there lol…This has been rhetoric in some circles for literal decades. A lot of extremist groups are positively salivating over the idea of artificial wombs not because it would allow women to opt-out of pregnancy, but because it would "eliminate the need for men" or some bullshit. Like I'm fairly certain this is part of a lot of feminist separatist text. What I don't understand is how some people are so vocal about their genocidal ideation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/05/22 10:11 PM |
| 6 | And this post is why we’re here and not there lol…I mean, not gonna lie, if there were a way to allow men the choice to get pregnant I'd absolutely be down for it. Honestly I think the science is so far off and artificial wombs would happen well in advance of male pregnancy that it's not something I'm planning on ever seeing. Also, I'm basically nonbinary and would love to live androgynously if I could, so I'm very biased. I'm not sure most guys would want the ability to get pregnant lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/05/22 09:27 PM |
| 10 | How "concern" for women is often used as a smoke screen for racism and misandryA lot of this shows up in performative allyship and I'm just wondering where the breaking point will be. Like, I'm absolutely all for making things better for women and knowing it will take some amount of sacrifice along the way to make that happen... but lately things have been starting to feel like the poor treatment and demonization of men is a requirement to make things better for women and that's not the same thing. Always turns into bullshit stuff like "if you were a real ally you wouldn't… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/05/22 07:44 PM |
| 8 | male role modes in tv/filmPlot B) A female villain, historically portrayed as being straight up evil, is actually a sort of rebel against the status quo and if she IS evil (she's not - just misunderstood), it's because a man (or a woman consumed by patriarchy) made her that way. That's the one that gets me because we are so used to coding men = evil that literally people start looking for justification on why a woman would act horribly and just kind of... accept it if a man does the same. Man comes up with inane plot to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/05/22 05:29 PM |
| 91 | As a transwoman, I am happy to find this subBut after transitioning, I realized even progressive feminists have no idea what growing up as a boy was, and think they know everything about transwomen. The more time I spend in "progressive" spaces the more I realize that the left has very little desire to actually understand the people they criticize the most, which includes men, conservatives, TERFs, etc. Once it's become acceptable to write someone off as "just bigoted" it's like everyone ignores the issue of how those people got to be big… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/05/22 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Trans women use misandristic language to be accepted in the queer communities and to be seen as women by cis women. I used to feel sad about the shits they have to go throughReally? You're telling me that society doesn't like motherhood, nurturing, or caring? Those are framed as feminine. You think society doesn't like women who are acting feminine (cute, soft, refined)? I have no problems admitting that society doesn't like some aspects of femininity or demands that women engage in them, but as a guy it's pretty fucking clear to me that society loves feminine things... as long as men aren't doing them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 10:33 PM |
| 9 | Is toxic masculinity the modern equivalent of female hysteria?I hate the view that men don't display weakness because it's feminine. Men don't display weakness because it's not coded into their gender role, not because weakness=femininity and women bad. And this is coming from someone who will fully admit that society often does shit on feminine-coded things just because it can. Idk, it just really irks me when people think male hesitancy around weakness is predominantly a woman's issue. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/22 06:31 AM |
| 8 | Acceptance of “mutual abuse” in regards to male domestic abuse victimsAdding on to this... Back to the point at hand, it's been brutal watching the response to Depp compared to other high-profile cases. Women are celebrated if they harm someone abusive to them. It's considered badass and necessary. Watching the same people who post on those stories that "reactive abuse exists" suddenly disappear when it comes to a man being harmed is incredibly saddening. There are so many people who are so eager to write this whole thing off as "they were both abusive" and just l… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/22 09:37 PM |
| 6 | Acceptance of “mutual abuse” in regards to male domestic abuse victimsI have very mixed feelings about the concept of mutual abuse, but I generally think it has some place as a concept within the world. At the risk of trauma-dumping, I was in an abusive relationship with a very ardent feminist who more likely than not had untreated BPD. I struggle to call it abusive because she never did anything physical, but I think if the roles were reversed people would very clearly think poorly of what she did. During that relationship I became someone I hated and barely reco… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/22 09:27 PM |
| 15 | Men's rights are valid because they are human rights: Ukraine's treatment of men is in violation of the ICCPR, an international human rights treaty that they signed in 1973I'm continuously shocked to see folks saying "men shouldn't be conscripted" and a lot of "progressive" women hearing "we would rather women die alongside men than no one die at all". Honestly, I don't really think many people realize just how big of a step it would be to ditch conscription overnight. Don't get me wrong, I don't think conscription should be legal in any form. But adding women to drafts makes them much more unpalatable, and eases the burden on men. And let's face facts - claiming … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/22 05:11 PM |
| 8 | TERFs and the uncanny valley of feminismAs a bi guy who feels the tendrils of the "omg I have a bi friend I'm gonna teach him allll about femininity, tee hee" attitude, can I ask how you show them you won't allow the stereotyping and weird ownership? Idk, I'm honestly kinda feminine but I've learned a lot of women want to put a man in makeup because they think they're helping or because they have some weird ulterior motive about seeing men as the furthest thing from masculinity. It makes it really hard to interact with this type of pe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/22 03:36 PM |
| 5 | Sinfest: A perfect case study as to how "Radical Feminism" and "Far Right Propaganda" are both two sides of the same coin (more commentary in the "comments")I'm confused at the targeting you mean, I think I'm missing a link | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 11:09 PM |
| 5 | Sinfest: A perfect case study as to how "Radical Feminism" and "Far Right Propaganda" are both two sides of the same coin (more commentary in the "comments")Ultimately the true purpose is to somehow exclaim that women are bigger victims and men are bigger perpetrators. So that is what you have to be explicit in recognizing as false. I mean, arguably this is the exact point of the vast majority of modern feminism: women have been disproportionately harmed, often to the benefit of men. It's actually the reason, ironically, I won't call myself an antifeminist - because there's at least some truth in the statement, and unfortunately intent is often left… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 09:03 PM |
| 31 | Sinfest: A perfect case study as to how "Radical Feminism" and "Far Right Propaganda" are both two sides of the same coin (more commentary in the "comments")I've always disliked the "patriarchy is a conspiracy theory" aspect because it's just as unfalsifiable as saying that the patriarchy exists and all men contribute to it. It necessarily demands a judgement on a very loosely defined concept that can range anywhere from "society favors men in some areas over women" to "men have a deep seated fear and hate of women and will stop at nothing to oppress them". In my opinion, the only reason patriarchy theory is failing is because it's unilateral and no… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 07:38 PM |
| 5 | Trans women use misandristic language to be accepted in the queer communities and to be seen as women by cis women. I used to feel sad about the shits they have to go throughI am told that I don’t understand what it’s like to grow up feeling ashamed of my interests because they are feminine. I want to scream. Oh my fucking God. This tracks. The exact same thing has happened to me in discussions with feminists. This fucking sucked in my previous relationship as well. She was super feminist and couldn't understand that yeah, I actually do fucking understand what it's like to have society collectively rail against your interests and brutally shame you for not falling w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 06:04 PM |
| 4 | Trans women use misandristic language to be accepted in the queer communities and to be seen as women by cis women. I used to feel sad about the shits they have to go throughThis piece brings me very close to tears every time I read it. I'm not trans. As far as I'm aware. But I thought I might have been, once upon a time. A frightening amount of this article hits on a very personal level. It just highlights so many frustrations I feel trying to connect with queer communities, which inevitably tend to be laced with performative misandry. I feel like no one cares to understand me. Everyone is quick to write off any internal or external struggles I've faced because I'm… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 06:01 PM |
| 5 | What is an Ally?The thing that's absolutely bizarre to me is that it's entirely possible to treat men kindly as allies and yet... this hasn't happened on a broad scale. Looking at depictions of feminism from the 1970s shows a much higher emphasis in a "we're all in this shitty boat together" approach instead of a "men put us in this shitty boat, make them fix it" mentality. And it's crazy to me how people can say that men are harmed by the patriarchy too and seem to recognize the horrifically small box of expre… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 03:01 PM |
| -2 | Male privilege vs masculinity privilegeWith all due respect, it's not all done yet. My sisters go through hell with their own expectations of womanhood. I'd love for things to be that simple but plain facts are we all need advocacy | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/22 06:40 AM |
| 1 | Because claiming to ironically hate men isn't the same as actually hating them... it's not like people are attacking men because of their genderI thought this was a particularly important piece to post even though the discussion got locked. I think it's surprising that many defend open misandry under the guise of catharsis or irony. Given what's happened in numerous conspiracy groups, or hell even The_Donald, I feel like we should all understand at this point that human beings are really terrible at detecting and contextualizing irony. It's almost inevitable that groups laced with irony eventually get overrun by those who actually belie… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/22 06:13 AM |
| 15 | Male privilege vs masculinity privilegeThis begs the question of "what privileges are applied to women directly due to them being female?" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/22 07:32 PM |
| 11 | Question from a female LWMA: How to approach defensive men?To add to this, I'm much more likely to think that a woman approaching me in an intimate context is a scam and not actual interest, especially if it's a profile with a Snapchat attached. That's nothing against women but it might be explain why some men are put off by female initiation, because it's so rare it "couldn't possibly" be real | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/22 01:44 AM |
| 20 | You can’t reduce domestic abuse by telling people that life is a power struggle between men and women. Interview with Professor Nicola Graham-Kevan — The Centre for Male PsychologyIf a man has trouble blocking time off for an annual doctor's visit, imagine how hard it would be to block off time monthly for regular therapy sessions. I haven't made it into my therapist's office since January and we are supposed to meet biweekly. I just haven't had the time to do so and whenever I have, she's booked up. I'm basically straight up crisising right now but I know I just have to suck it up and deal with it until I can go talk to her and maybe find another psych for a second round… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/22 11:45 PM |
| 5 | normalising single men and encouraging men not to have childrenOh I was confused, it sounded like he got off to fetishes somehow driven by toxic masculinity. Either way that's... not that positive, yikes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/22 12:30 AM |
| 6 | normalising single men and encouraging men not to have childrensaying it was fun to go through all their fetishes from toxic masculinity. Wait, what? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/22 11:54 PM |
| 43 | normalising single men and encouraging men not to have childrenI don't understand this either. I hate how differently people treat me after I make some mention of my ex. I go from "introverted insecure geeky type" to "oh... maybe he's an option?", and I know it's largely because of this attitude that if I got some woman to date me that I must not be a total monster. I'm just tiring of the heterosexual dating games at this point. I think straight men at large don't truly understand how shitty they're treated in a lot of aspects and that's keeping them from b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/22 05:13 AM |
| 8 | Will Smith and Performative ViolenceIn their "defense" that's the linked article title verbatim. Still weird that that's the only post about this event they've left up | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 11:01 PM |
| 4 | "If you don't get into fights with any guy who makes fun of your girl then u not a real man"I mean, medically, it is a health issue? Male pattern balding is called male pattern balding for a a reason. Women with severe hair loss are far more likely to have underlying medical concerns than men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Will Smith and Performative ViolenceI'm not sure where you're seeing this widespread support for his actions, 99% of the commentary surrounding it has been solely against this violence in my own corner of the internet | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 06:26 PM |
| 15 | Will Smith and Performative ViolenceThis perfectly encapsulates the idea of "joshing around" and how from the outside, male relationships may seem to be built around competition and disdain for one another. Now that I have a solid group of male friends post-college, I don't see what the hate is about. Sure, you might have to read the room and make sure nicknaming your friend Big John when he's going on a diet is all good with him, but otherwise it's most likely a term of endearment. People talk about guys being emotionally closed … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 06:25 PM |
| 1 | For those who want a change of pace, how egalitarian do you feel things should be?I think we're in agreement since that's what I was implying the bias was due to and that this very narrow example of outcome vs. opportunity isn't terribly indicative of my views towards those topics in general. I will say, my one issue with equality of outcome vs. equality of opportunity is that if equality of opportunity is the standard and inequality is viewed in the outcome, we should research if any other social biases lead to that outcome. Personally if 80% of nurses are female because wom… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 06:15 PM |
| 3 | Casual misandryI feel like the number is going to be very difficult to compare tbh, like why not just leave it at "both are very serious" without going into oppression olympics | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Where is The Movement Most Lacking?Do you have a quick synopsis for what "male gender blindness" might entail? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Idk if its just meWell, you're not wrong. Most left leaning feminists deny misandry directed towards black men and focus on racism. That's not unfair on its face because racism has obviously affected black men in incredibly pervasive ways that still are present today. If you want to know why this is, it's because many of the loudest left leaning folks don't acknowledge misandry exists. To them, it's the same thing as "reverse racism" - the thought process is that society can't be sexist towards men because sexism… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 02:11 PM |
| 1 | For those who want a change of pace, how egalitarian do you feel things should be?I imagine the astronaut candidacy is such a limited pool of availability relative to the application pool that there's an upper limit of what skill level applicants can achieve. Basically, I'm not fully convinced that even the highest performing candidates are going to be biased male (although I'd agree the number of applicants would be). This one's complicated for me because no, I don't want to force a 50/50 requirement (or any other requirement on population data), but for the purposes of rese… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 01:58 PM |
| 1 | For those who want a change of pace, how egalitarian do you feel things should be?I'd argue it does matter, to some degree. I got to the point in my adulthood where I considered gunning to be an astronaut and realized... shit, I could actually do that if I really tried. Because I realized I didn't have to be a fancy test pilot or have military experience or discovered a species or been to Antarctica. I just needed to have a degree and skillset the government needs (or in the case of SpaceX, several million dollars). I guess the identity politics didn't get to me, but the back… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 11:59 PM |
| 4 | For those who want a change of pace, how egalitarian do you feel things should be?I actually work in the civil space industry with systems that astronauts use and a lot of folks are very wrong here with their examples of requirements for astronauts needing to be different for men and women. By far, the most qualifying factor to successfully be an astronaut is health. If you're unhealthy or have a chronic condition, you're out. Education and resiliency make up the next two largest factors. Can you survive living in a tin can with five other people for three months? Not everyon… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 11:54 PM |
| 2 | For those who want a change of pace, how egalitarian do you feel things should be?I actually work in the civil space industry with systems that astronauts use and a lot of folks are very wrong here with their examples of requirements for astronauts needing to be different for men and women. By far, the most qualifying factor to successfully be an astronaut is health. If you're unhealthy or have a chronic condition, you're out. Education and resiliency make up the next two largest factors. Can you survive living in a tin can with five other people for three months? Not everyon… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 11:53 PM |
| 5 | why antifeminism is necessary for gender equality.I think we're on different pages as far as beliefs go. Honestly I think male privilege does exist, it's just limited to an array of particular behaviors and situations. And in those situations, the system is often rigged in men's favor. Female privilege also exists in my belief system, with a similar array of behaviors and situations that's rigged in women's favor. Whether or not a person believes the system is rigged towards men or women as a whole generally comes down to what they feel has imp… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 01:29 PM |
| 4 | why antifeminism is necessary for gender equality.The answer to that is simple and it's that it's much more socially desirable to virtue signal support to trans folks than it is towards men. Most anti-TERF feminists I meet secretly have some really shitty attitudes or ambivalence towards trans people/issues, they just realize they will be called hateful if they actually expressed them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 01:26 PM |
| 3 | why antifeminism is necessary for gender equality.I suppose the difference is what kind of crowd you want to attract. Those identifying as "antifeminist" seem to be as varied as those who call themselves feminists, heh | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 04:58 AM |
| 10 | why antifeminism is necessary for gender equality.Might be a hot take but I've met several women who claim to believe in "patriarchy" but take it to mean "men generally had greater standing/status than women" When you get into the realm of gender-based oppression of rights as a unidirectional, singular phenomenon, sure, there's lots of criticism there, but I think patriarchy is so engrained in even the most base forms of feminism nowadays it's a bit harder to use it as a litmus test for extremists | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 02:18 AM |
| -2 | why antifeminism is necessary for gender equality.Yeah, I genuinely worry about this sub turning into an "antifeminist" sub. Not because I think the term (when properly defined) is the worst thing in the world, but just because past a certain point it will just turn into a circlejerk about hating feminism and between that and the antifeminist label anything here will get written off as a hate movement | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/22 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Who's doing the emotional labor in your relationships?I think there's a fair amount of it that's just different experiences - I hardly think women are lying when they say they've had men who aren't all that close dump a lot of trauma on them, or have had men in relationships expect them to manage more than their share of homemaking tasks. But I also don't think that men are lying when they say they've had many partners with very little tolerance for male emotions. I think half the problem is that emotional labor is becoming a commodity. There's a h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/22 06:09 PM |
| 6 | Who's doing the emotional labor in your relationships?I feel like I meet a fair amount of these types, but it can be more challenging than I'd like. It takes a special person, but honestly I've had a lot more success relative to women who reject progressive femininity in some way. That sounds bad but like the nerdy girls I have met or the religious types are miles better for being there for their boyfriends and husbands than most other groups. Obviously I don't want to generalize but that's what I've seen. It's hard though. Guys have to battle betw… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/22 01:21 AM |
| 9 | Who's doing the emotional labor in your relationships?Yeah, it's hard to toe that line writing this stuff. I never want to be all doom and gloom but sometimes it's overwhelming. I hope you come across more positive examples in your own life. A friend of mine is dating someone and she's given me so much hope for humanity. She genuinely cares about him, works really hard to make sure he's happy, and she's always got his back. She's been instrumental in helping me reassess my hopes in relationships and love. Maybe I should tell her that... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/22 01:04 AM |
| 14 | The ignoring of men with mental disabilities.I don't think I'm on the spectrum myself, but I seem to always make great friends with autistic folks wherever I go. I've gotten pretty good at spotting them and I think pretty good at interacting in a way is mutually positive. I'm always shocked at how poorly others treat them. Literally almost every one of them has been labeled by otherwise-great people that I know as weirdos or creeps or "for some weird reason I just really really dislike them". 9/10 times this ends up being because the perso… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/03/22 02:02 AM |
| 2 | I'm shocked that this reached the front page, but even more shocked the comments are pretty evenhandedCool by me! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/22 02:30 AM |
| 45 | I'm shocked that this reached the front page, but even more shocked the comments are pretty evenhandedI was browsing the front page today and saw this study. On the face it appears to tackle sexism, but the comments do a great job at examining the actual study and noting that it attempts to redefine sexism as an attitude negative to women rather than gender-based discrimination towards anyone. I found it very surprising to see such nuance and detail in the comment section. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/22 10:21 PM |
| 4 | LWMA Lounge March 2022I wish it were possible to have a reasonable conversation in the public sphere about how comorbid extremist feminism is to with mental illnesses, particularly B-cluster personality disorders and narcissism. Like, literally, if you have an ideology that focuses a lot on victimhood and invisible ways that society causes that victimhood, maybe it is attractive to folks who have mental illnesses where there are strong ties to victim mentality. I mostly say this because I dated someone who I'm almost… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/22 02:26 PM |
| 41 | is Female Fragility a thingYeah this shit always bothered me. My ex would pull the "god men are so fucking fragile" card anytime I got upset about something she thought I shouldn't care about. Like, don't you pride yourself on trying to break down gender expectations? Why is emasculating men the go-to method of "taking men down a notch" from a lot of so-called-feminists? You think if they actually cared about the way patriarchy harms men too that they'd realize using those very pointed phrases is literally upholding the s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/22 02:16 PM |
| 4 | I feel pressured into only dating womenAs a bi-ish guy (I've never dated a man), I don't necessarily feel pressured to date women outside of heteronormativity, but I absolutely feel pressured to cater to their interests, and that bothers me a lot. It feels like there's a certain level of sexual inequality that comes with het relationships. I might just be projecting my own feelings here after time with an abusive ex girlfriend, but despite feminist claims it often feels like socially, heterosexual relationships are for the benefit of… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/22 05:37 AM |
| 4 | Why do male advocates seem to have so much conflict with feminists?Not the person you replied to but I've actually never read through that. I must say, it's very well written and even my really nitpicky judgement only comes up with a couple instances in the whole document where I might have reworded things. That's a compliment, I promise 😂 kudos to the mod team! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/22 08:12 AM |
| 13 | Why do male advocates seem to have so much conflict with feminists?So, I'll give my 2¢ on that. I don't really vibe with the term "anti-feminist" myself but a fair amount of folks here do use it. It deserves some context though. Most people anywhere else but the depths of gender discourse forums mentally equate feminism with women's rights, and then falsely interpret "anti-feminism" to be anti-women's-rights. None of the people here, as far as I'm aware, are against women's rights and the rules of the sub are pretty clear that we are pro-women's-rights. Where d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/22 03:59 AM |
| 2 | Reminder: Wikipedia has a feminist biasI'm with you 100%. It sucks to have to take the wind out of your sails sometimes but we really do have to call out toxic folks on our own side lest we just do the same crap as feminists online. No, we aren't obligated to do it, but the very least we can do is assert our values and standards of behavior. Honestly, I avoid that subreddit too. It's too negative and too biased and there's too many people who genuinely don't understand feminist points and think it's entirely a boogeyman against men. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/03/22 10:21 PM |
| 7 | homophobia and masculinityAgree on this count too. I'm maybe bi so I'm not gonna say I have a horse in the race yet, but the particular Putin image that's banned in Russia seems pretty evidently to be something that folks use as a way to highlight his shortcomings in rulership rather than him as a person. I'd be more offended by the "X leader has small dick energy" jokes but you can't really talk about those without people thinking you're making a mountain out of a molehill | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/03/22 01:11 AM |
| 28 | homophobia and masculinityThis is something that "toxic masculinity" tried to tackle before getting hamstrung by pop feminists who found they could use it to attack individual men instead of societal expectations of men. Because, yeah - a lot of public hate towards men involves their emasculation, and a lot of people who would be up in arms about toxic masculinity have zero hesitation when posting the Putin is gay/he's just a cuck/whatever memes. It's always an attack on masculinity trying to cause mental anguish. It's f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/22 10:29 PM |
| 5 | LWMA Lounge March 2022Thanks. Stuff like this really gets under my skin and I think half of it has to do with how men in relationships are expected to act. Like at no point are my feelings or needs considered, I'm never allowed a night off, I have to meet her needs however demanding they might be otherwise I'm a jerk and an asshole. This isn't even scratching the surface with her, I have hundreds of stories just like this and in every single one of them I'm painted as just another selfish man instead of someone who w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/22 04:57 PM |
| 6 | LWMA Lounge March 2022My ex is currently blasting me on Reddit and I think she's gone completely unhinged. Her perception of things that happened is so far divorced from reality that I really am starting to wonder if she actually believes her own shit or if she's just doing it to get sympathy. I'll give an example. For context, throughout our relationship she suffered from chronic depression and attempted suicide a handful of times. One thing I began to notice was that every time I was invited to a night out with fri… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/22 03:12 PM |
| 74 | Is there a double bind when it comes to men's dating experiences and the "friendzone"?This is ultimately a complicated scenario and one that's difficult to generalize. The most I'd be willing to reduce it down to is that women tend to be more open to the idea of relationships with men they know as friends, but those that want relationships are often saddled with the gendered expectation that a man should make the first move otherwise she's worth less as a person. This makes it difficult for men because of the connotation of being "fuck-zoned" (someone being in a friendship with a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/22 11:07 PM |
| 12 | LWMA Lounge March 2022Why are most people so antagonistic about gender issues? Idk, even when I was exposed to a lot of extreme feminism I never thought about making fun of dudes or making snappy statements about how men need to fix themselves. There's a lot of things in our world that do need fixing but it's laughable that many angry gender warrior types think that their anger is going to do anything but push people away. That's usually met with some form of saying that feminism doesn't need to cater to men's feelin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/22 04:02 PM |
| 11 | Although not explicitly about trans men, the comments in this thread to a good job at highlighting some severe failings current gender discourse has towards transgender individualsI found this thread to be a pretty interesting read. I was not expecting a thread on a trans forum to be critical of current trends in gender discourse. However, this one did a good job at pulling away how regressive some of the popular stuff going around is. As much as the left seems to want to remove gender norms, it spends a lot of time endorsing groups that do a lot of reinforcing of those norms. The original post might not be agreeable to some but the comments were enlightening and thought … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/22 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Although not explicitly about trans men, the comments in this thread to a good job at highlighting some severe failings current gender discourse has towards transgender individualsHoly motherfucking fuck it's impossible to post a link on this forum. Don't listen to the message when it says you can post a www.np.reddit.com link. It will still panic and have a seizure at the WWW | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/22 04:28 AM |
| 2 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?I always found it to be really tone deaf when feminists think that relationships are entirely expectations of what women will do for men. There's a lot of those out there, but there's a lot of expectation on the male side that it feels like people try to bury. My new rule is if people don't reciprocate the emotional favors you're supposed to do in a relationship, it isn't worth the energy to hold that friendship/relationship. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 07:00 PM |
| 3 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?It's fine, I'm managing. I mean, I won't lie, I still have major issues trusting that women can actually like men, but I realize that's unfair and I'm holding out on dating women until I've worked past that. Sadly I suspect it will only be after a string of failed relationships and hurting another handful of men that my ex might even begin to consider her attitudes are problematic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 03:26 PM |
| 6 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?I'm sure nobody here is blind to the irony. Feminism touts the company line that it empowers women, but really it seems like it just teaches people to be scared of every shadow. I actually went digging into this and there's actually several female therapists who entirely specialize in working women out of the fear that feminism locks them into. Idk, I don't bash on feminism lightly but for a movement about empowerment it does negative work on teaching women to own their fears. I'm not saying it … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 07:30 AM |
| 16 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?My ex was like this as well, she did awful things to me and yet tried to be the victim in every situation. Not once did she say sorry or admit fault. She’d also randomly bring up past events where she felt like a victim out of nowhere. Its murder on the soul being in a relationship with someone like this. I've wanted to post about it for a while but can't seem to come up with anything that doesn't stew too much in my own traumas. Having someone assume they are the victim all the time and then de… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 07:27 AM |
| 2 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?Anti-romance? Not disagreeing with you but that's not usually in people's top 3 reasons to hate society. What do you consider the threats towards romance, considering historical society didn't really preach the idea of lifelong loving partnerships? I'm very curious | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 07:23 AM |
| 2 | Warren Farrell with Andrew YangOh, don't get me wrong, I think the economy would essentially have to collapse and WWIII happen to shake the current system up, but it's nice to imagine sometimes | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 03:36 AM |
| 12 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?Doubling up on my comment here to share that I think it's crazy how little people acknowledge the current sexist dickishness of culture towards men. I've been told many, many times by folks online that these hateful vile people are super rare and that I have nothing to worry about. That misandry isn't an actual thing and even if it were it's not prevalent enough to make a difference in my life. They don't see that I fucking dated someone who saw men as inferior to women for three years. They don… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 03:36 AM |
| 19 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?I spend a lot of time thinking about this, actually. I don't really think that when you look at history, men are "the actual victims" or some nonsense. But looking at history as a whole I'd be hard pressed to say that any particular group are "the true victims". Obviously there are various periods in history where some groups are definitely, absolutely the true victims, don't get me wrong. But you go far enough back and shit sucked for everyone. Anyways. I look at gender relations and the differ… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 03:22 AM |
| 14 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?Have you ever heard of this thing called Red Pill Rage? Well, it's basically a phenomenon that happens with a lot of men when they get redpilled (which I won't discuss here because I assume most readers here know the ideology). Basically, man gets redpilled and all of a sudden he's questioning stuff that was taught to him his whole life. Do women really like nice guys? Is it really all about money? How much do looks actually matter? Was everything that I was taught my whole life based on lies? T… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 03:13 AM |
| 2 | Warren Farrell with Andrew YangHe's absolutely posturing, but at the national level this posturing is groundbreaking, if you ask me. I'd absolutely love it if someone came through and campaigned heavily on men's issues, but in the world of extremist feminism literally acknowledging that men are struggling is a major shift in allowable politics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 02:48 AM |
| 2 | Warren Farrell with Andrew YangNow that's interesting.... I yearn for the days we can live in a post-Democrat world. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Warren Farrell with Andrew YangTo boot, I hate to engage in identity politics but it feels much more forgivable because he's a man. If I'm completely honest with myself, I've made that type of joke before too. Not because I hate men but because I was toying with stereotypes and I knew it's a cheap way to garner laughs. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 02:44 AM |
| 1 | What is the easiest, most irrefutable, position to have for male advocacy?Holy fuck this is accurate | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 02:33 AM |
| 5 | A Student Found Evidence of Reverse Racism. Here’s Why I Advised Him Not to Publish ItMan, Bernie was the chisel that finally started chipping into my ex's tendency to believe anything that progressives tweet about. She fucking loved Bernie and watched as he got absolutely toasted by progressives all for his race and gender. Nail in the coffin was Warren's weird accusations towards him at very politically convenient times. She literally told me once - "all my friends on Twitter say he shouldn't be the nominee because he's another old white man, and I'm starting to disagree with t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 02:29 AM |
| 36 | Child Support is like student loans for menI always hated the idea of a deadbeat dad because it's such a big example of the empathy gap. When women don't want to take on the responsibility of a child, many of them get shame for that. But there's a significant portion of the population that advocates for them, and will generate any number of backstories trying to explain why someone wouldn't want a child - maybe she's not ready for one, doesn't have the financial stability, is career-oriented, etc. etc. etc. For a guy, there's nearly alwa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/02/22 05:04 PM |
| 2 | For all the gaybros of this group: Why did you decide to become a MRA?Ah, I mostly meant have female feminists treated you differently because you care about men but I guess it might be to early to tell. Thanks! | /r/MensRights | 17/02/22 06:11 PM |
| 3 | For all the gaybros of this group: Why did you decide to become a MRA?I'm curious if the reception to your views has changed much during your transition. I can't imagine many feminists being happy to see a woman advocate for men | /r/MensRights | 17/02/22 02:54 PM |
| 13 | For all the gaybros of this group: Why did you decide to become a MRA?I'm bi-ish myself and honestly I'm a bit frightened that I'll get shunned by gay men for not regurgitating the talking points of feminism as absolute truths... has being someone who cares about men's issues impacted your relationships with men? | /r/MensRights | 17/02/22 02:53 PM |
| 5 | Does anyone else find it infuriating how feminists suddenly (and hypocritically) turn into fiscal conservatives when oversight of child support spending is proposed?I feel like the posters who immediately turn to cold, hard number-crunching would be more willing to consider the human dimension if women [....] Well if that ain't the biggest issue facing men today | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/22 03:17 PM |
| 8 | Do radical/extremist feminists create men's activists?Well that's utterly horrifying | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/22 03:14 PM |
| 4 | Do radical/extremist feminists create men's activists?I honestly dunno. If someone is truly naive then I feel like there's some form of leeway I can grant for that, and I do so with men as well. And with feminists it's easy to spite the naivete, you just follow the trail of buzzwords and pop-cultureisms. There's a line in the sand somewhere but it's hard to tell where it is, I suppose maybe it's when people start feeling like their beliefs are unchallengeable | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/22 03:13 PM |
| 9 | Do radical/extremist feminists create men's activists?When it's appropriate and fits into the conversation, I've tried. Sometimes it's met with a listening ear, more often it's met with "that's not real feminism". I usually end up having to back myself up with sources because they refuse to believe I'm telling the truth | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/22 08:28 AM |
| 4 | Do radical/extremist feminists create men's activists?Truly | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/22 06:03 AM |
| 11 | Do radical/extremist feminists create men's activists?Number three is probably your closest bet, sadly there's only so many options I can put in. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/22 12:40 AM |
| 21 | Do radical/extremist feminists create men's activists?I subscribe to this take as well. As far as I can tell most of my female friends who call themselves feminists do so because they see the movement as being successful in gaining equality for women. They are largely unaware of the instances in which institutionalized feminism has actively campaigned against equality for men. It's absolutely true that you have to dig deep and conduct some research to find that it's not all sunshine and rainbows and taking down the patriarchy, a lot of it is "male … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/22 12:40 AM |
| 14 | Do radical/extremist feminists create men's activists?Curiosity really Edit: mostly from the perspective that feminist women seem to have that men who look down on feminism are uneducated or absolute misogynists. In reality, a lot of the male advocates I meet believe what they do because they were feminists and then had a realization it's not a perfect movement on many fronts | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/22 12:35 AM |
| 13 | QUESTION: How common is female-perpetrated sexual violence, especially recently?That fact fucking blew my mind. I have an ex who would love to back down to rape statistics as a way of saying that women are more moral and enlightened than men. Which, as an aside, I'm not opposed to talking about cultural and social elements that may lead men toward commiting more sexual assaults, but I am opposed to conversations that devolve into "the nature of men" because that's utter BS. Anyways, she'd always fall back on the stats to back up her ideological high horse that women are enl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 05:33 PM |
| 7 | Left environmental views, Left healthcare views, Left housing views, Left economic views, Feminist, Pro DEI/Anti-racist, Pro BLM/TLM/support LGBTQIA rights, pro police reform. “Oh, you’re pro free speech, support men’s issues, and are anti-woke/cancel culture? Nazi incel.”The concept of biology dictating right and wrong gender roles always leaves out masculine women and feminine men, which start to be alienated on principle of "well your biology is just screwed up, stop asking for people to tolerate you just because you don't line up with the majority" Like I'm a guy and usually I'm feminine as hell and these types of arguments leave a lot to be desired because there's absolutely nothing about stoicism and machismo I find identity or solace in | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 05:26 PM |
| 38 | Help me understand the logic behind, "patriarchy is designed by men, for men."?The best answer I've managed to contextualize about this is that "patriarchy" says if you play by all of society's rules, you will receive more benefits as a man than if you were a woman. But it still requires playing by the rules. The other explanation I've gotten that makes far less sense to me is that patriarchy is an in-group bias within men aka the same mechanism that would make good-old-boys clubs or make men more likely to forgive an egregious act if another man did it. This view of patri… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/22 05:19 PM |
| 13 | How some feminists victim-blame suicidal men by bringing up suicide methodsExactly. Had it been a conversation about how men felt they had to use more violent options to make sure the deed got done, I'm all ears. Because that at least shows you can comprehend that maybe it's not the patriarchy making men violent, it's depressed and hopeless men wanting to make sure they were dead that brought on more violence. It was such a tone deaf thing to have said and even though I was horrified at the time it didn't strike me until much later how scary it was to actually interact… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 03:24 AM |
| 31 | How some feminists victim-blame suicidal men by bringing up suicide methodsFair warning I didn't watch the video but I have a very strong feeling this comment aligns with what's being said. One of the times I've most palpably felt what little respect I had for my ex fall away was when she brought up suicide methods as a form of toxic masculinity. She was often suicidal herself, hell I was suicidal when I was with her so you think she would have known better. Nope, she went on an actual rant about how the last mark men often left on the world was one of horror and gore … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 12:58 AM |
| 23 | How did the elections impact the way men are talked aboutCall this a hot take but I think conservatives and the feminist establishment actually make strange bedfellows more often than not. In my experience, conservative men have a much easier time swallowing the whole "men are bad but me and my family are exceptions to the rule" attitude when it comes to their actual treatment of manhood. In general conservative guys have been the first to lap up "protect our wives and daughters at all costs" and easily see other men as threats to their lives and live… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/22 05:22 PM |
| 22 | Inherent hostility of feminist spaces and academiaKind of? Half of it is "wow some of the stuff the mods deal with is shit, look at this crap" and the other half of it definitely reads like "wow look at these dumbfucks not saying stuff through our very specific lens". It's not like the mods there don't deal with some bullshit, mods everywhere do that. But it's weird to see them all circlejerking over their asserted moral superiority when someone gets "triggered over toxic masculinity" because they don't understand it properly | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/22 08:43 PM |
| 36 | Inherent hostility of feminist spaces and academiaThe real kicker is that the comment was deleted with a canned response from the moderators saying that discussions of terminology are not allowed and if you want to look up the definitions for terms we use here, here's some links. Which missed the point entirely. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/22 07:35 PM |
| 23 | Inherent hostility of feminist spaces and academiaI've often gotten the impression that the rules in MensLib are written police-state style to give them built-in reasons to pull any posts they disagree with, no matter the topic or how much they kowtow their agenda. I have much less issue with the forum there than most because it occasionally results in incredibly well written discussion that challenges some common feminist assumptions about men, but it definitely feels like they look at moderation through the lens of "what will we allow" and no… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/22 06:01 PM |
| 16 | An Important Reminder for Valentine’s Day SoonValentine's day is one of those days that I feel like the utter insanity that is heterosexual dating roles should be obvious to everyone... right? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for doting on your partner. But this is the first post I've ever seen about treating your guy on Valentine's day the same way we are expected to treat women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/22 02:34 AM |
| 18 | Postmodern leftist theory posits that crime is a symptom of disenfranchisement, especially when it comes to explaining minority crime rates. So why are we so blind about this when it comes to gender?This is such a fucked up issue when it comes to the public eye. And it feels so obvious, too. Like, most people have no problem admitting that society currently puts male worth on economic success and the ability to provide. So much so that male identity is almost hamstrung by capitalism. Those very same people generally have a major shortcoming decrying male violence as anything but a gender issue. They mean to say that a society that requires men to have money and power wouldn't result in a di… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/22 07:49 PM |
| 3 | LWMA Lounge February 2022I feel so bad for trans men simply because they get the short end of the stick in all gender discourse, just for existing. That's gotta be rough | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/22 03:03 PM |
| 3 | How feminists derail men's issues with "equal rights vs equal oppression"Admittedly, you're right - and that's why I never actually pulled the trigger much less looked into enlistment. I think it was more of an "exit strategy" move. Like in the back of my head I felt I should keep an eye on politics because if things started to rapidly go south then I'd always heard that you're much better off as a volunteer than a draftee like the other commenter said. But then I got an engineering degree and that pushes out more of the fear today because now I'm much more valuable … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/22 02:38 AM |
| 29 | How feminists derail men's issues with "equal rights vs equal oppression"The draft particularly pisses me off, because it adds a level of existential political dread to your life that women just don't experience. I spent my young 20s with Trump in office looking over my shoulder and wondering if I should enlist because he was pushing us closer and closer to WWIII. No one has ever taken those worries seriously either. Everyone loves to say that the draft is essentially neutered and no one will ever use it again. If that's the case then why are people so against adding… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 10:55 PM |
| 3 | What are some thoughts on this?Thandiwe Newton Calls Sean Penn ‘Tragic’ and a ‘Fool’ for Saying Men Are Too FeminizedHoly shit this is a good comment. Not sure I'm seeing the organic death of women pretending they know the male experience though, if anything I've seen the opposite. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 06:06 PM |
| 8 | how to show to women that advocating for men does not mean anti-women?Pretty much, yeah. I will admittedly say, I have seen precious few people that have co-opted men's rights as a way of bringing down women's rights because they hate women or pure misogyny. What I see far more often is men who contextualize that men's issues are talked about so little and shut down so often that they believe that advocacy for women is a big lie and it's actually men who need most of the resources and women are just floating on the privilege of having worth in society. Now, functi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 06:03 PM |
| 20 | how to show to women that advocating for men does not mean anti-women?I think the hardest part about it as a guy is that if you ever bring up something in an existing discussion there's some presumption that you literally don't care about women's issues and are simply trying to derail the conversation. My ex did this a lot with me. One of the conversations I remember most was she said something about female genital mutilation and how horrific it was that people would do that to young women much less see it normalized in some groups. I attempted to agree with her -… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 04:18 PM |
| 24 | how to show to women that advocating for men does not mean anti-women?If you want my honest opinion, a lot of guys tend to do that because it's the only time we feel safe bringing up gendered issues. And usually it's not trying to deny that women face issues, but to share that men face issues too and those issues are often similar/interlinked. For me, someone talking about women's issues is a signifier that they care about gender inequality, which is like half the battle if you're a man. If I bring up gender issues on their own with no prompting, I usually get the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 03:11 PM |
| 6 | What are some thoughts on this?Thandiwe Newton Calls Sean Penn ‘Tragic’ and a ‘Fool’ for Saying Men Are Too FeminizedGay masculinity is looked at entirely differently than straight masculinity. You can be the most masc, hairy leather daddy in the world and the moment you fuck a guy in the ass you're not seen as the same type of man that you would be if you were straight. Masculinity is occasionally rewarded, but really only if it's in pursuit of a woman | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 04:35 AM |
| 32 | Amazon has a popular TV commercial featuring a Medusa character killing someone at a bar... what would be the reaction if the genders were reversed?Damn, I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thrown off by this ad. Like, okay it's "humorous", but only because it plays into the tired trope of "harm befalling man = he deserved it". Really, it just satisfies the general trendy "men suck" attitude that's in vogue today. Which is even it's own weird thing because as far as I can tell it's a legitimate trend - dogging on men is just the cool thing to do nowadays. And I get it, women are gonna be for it because chances are they'll understand the f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 04:31 AM |
| 13 | Why do people always assume we want to dismantle resources for women instead of add focus for male resources?Trauma is actually a very interesting topic in this realm. From everything that I've seen, people can comprehend that men can be abused and assaulted. But very, very few seem to understand that the trauma caused can be lasting and deep. I've seen so many instances where if a guy is traumatized and hasn't moved past it then he's a horrible person. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/22 03:29 PM |
| 2 | Andrew Yang shares thoughts about mens issues on Twitter.Sure it does. I don't see why it's so controversial. Women literally had less legal rights for most of the country's history and that will absolutely flow into the modern day. And men were literally sent to go die in wars and hard labor which absolutely flows into the modern day. America is a deeply misogynistic and misandric country, like most. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/22 06:40 AM |
| -1 | Andrew Yang shares thoughts about mens issues on Twitter.I guess it all depends how you look at it? Women aren't doing so hot on reproductive rights | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/22 02:00 AM |
| -3 | Andrew Yang shares thoughts about mens issues on Twitter.Well, the country being deeply misogynistic is one that I feel stands, but it also should work for misandry as well. In any case, I say we see where this goes. Maybe he's someone who has the capacity for introspection and change. Only time will tell, but it feels like we should support people who have overcome previous poor beliefs instead of bashing them for stuff they may not agree with now. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/22 06:47 PM |
| 1 | LWMA Lounge January 2022As someone who desperately wants to crossdress, care to explain? I'm intrigued | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/22 05:55 PM |
| 6 | No, for the last time, men do not get killed less than womenI feel like this kind of misinterprets the feminist interpretation of femicide. Most feminists I know would argue femicide is a problem for something like... stalking and murdering a woman because she rejected a guy and he couldn't handle it. Their argument is that we don't see much of the reverse happening (women stalking and murdering men if they are rejected) and boil it down to "well they wouldn't have been killed if they were a guy who did that" and call it a day. That's where the whole fem… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/22 05:22 PM |
| 1 | the idea that ~90% of rape victims are women is most often based on statistics that exclude male victims. And it's often feminists that push for that exclusion.We have fundamental disagreements, sorry. I think "men are more violent by nature" just won't hold up as we progress as a society. Call me a gender abolitionist I guess, but I feel like nurture has a much higher impact than nature on the postmodern world. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/22 09:19 PM |
| 6 | The reason people cannot empathize with men on dating appsAha! Someone's forgetting about facial recognition! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/22 09:53 PM |
| 10 | The reason people cannot empathize with men on dating appsI honestly think so many guys internalize hyperagency and don't even admit to themselves things could be better, they just accept things are how they are and how they always will be. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/22 07:10 PM |
| 6 | The reason people cannot empathize with men on dating appsI think a lot of unwillingness comes in when cognitive dissonance hits. I have close female friends and they struggle with dating. It's hard for them to find a caring partner. There are a lot of men out there who say they want relationships and are lying about it trying to get laid. It's just hard, in general, as a human being to connect and love someone. And I don't fault them but I think that they don't want to admit an advantage because they still face that difficulty. I think that women ofte… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/22 07:09 PM |
| 2 | the idea that ~90% of rape victims are women is most often based on statistics that exclude male victims. And it's often feminists that push for that exclusion.You're not thinking like a feminist here. Most feminists would argue that women aren't inherently more empathetic than men, they just are taught how to be more empathetic by society because of sexism against women (and toxic masculinity). Likewise, they'd probably agree on you about the amount of harmful people (whether or not those harmful acts come in tandem with a personality disorder or not. I knew a radical feminist with BPD quite closely and I'm absolutely certain she'd never falsely accus… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/22 06:52 PM |
| 11 | the idea that ~90% of rape victims are women is most often based on statistics that exclude male victims. And it's often feminists that push for that exclusion.I mean I think that's the exact battle most of the people in this subreddit seem to be facing. I'm a feminist if it means bringing all genders up and admitting there are things women are disadvantaged in due to bias regarding their gender. I'm not a feminist if it means male victim erasure. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/22 12:34 AM |
| 18 | the idea that ~90% of rape victims are women is most often based on statistics that exclude male victims. And it's often feminists that push for that exclusion.I actually once got in a discussion with someone who laid out an argument that - while not compelling in any way - was at least logically consistent in terms of why women would fight for rape to be a gendered crime. In essence, it boils down to an issue of awareness. She believed that rape should remain gendered because rape is generally considered a power-dynamic driven crime, and that due to patriarchal power dynamics that the mechanisms of why a woman would sexually assault a man are differen… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/22 08:00 PM |
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