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Hey Karen. I helped create the sub Purple Pill Debate a while ago, so I'm definitely interested in gender dynamics, and your videos seem to definitely be a staple of the male's side of things, so it's cool to see you doing an AMA. I'm late to the party, but I have a couple questions for you, to answer if you can: 1) Why do you think the topic of gender is so contentious? It's a topic that twists the concepts of free speech on campuses (pulling fire alarms to silence, etc) and cause all kinds of …
/r/TheRedPill30/05/15 07:24 AM
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I think you missed part of both her talk and my comment: It's unlikely that a man who cuts down trees for a living can provide her with a better life than her husband. I said: "In fact, her talk about how people that cheat chase novelty...". She never really goes into how well-off or "attractive" the partner the cheater cheats with is, because overall that's irrelevant to her speech. What she does mention is that cheaters typically cheat for their own reasons ("People who cheat are selfish") in …
/r/TheRedPill24/05/15 07:56 PM
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Did you even watch it? She states explicitly she isn't encouraging having affairs. She isn't even being an apologist for them. Her whole talk was about how affairs have underlying reasons for them, what those reasons are, and how an affair reveals truths that most people don't ask themselves. I thought that kind of thing was exactly what this sub discusses. In fact, her talk about how people that cheat chase novelty and have a need to "find oneself" in an affair sounds like RP explanations for i…
/r/TheRedPill24/05/15 08:55 AM
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At my university there's an old saying: two rings by spring. One for your graduating class and one for marriage. It's a relic of a much older time, not vacuousness. People just got married earlier back then.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/15 02:34 PM
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I am very confused by what I just watched, but I definitely got a chuckle out of it.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 12:38 PM
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It's eye-opening and I'm sure anyone can benefit from reading it, but for real don't try and preach to those people. They've been through so much shit already; they don't need people coming in and trying to teach ideas on their subreddit.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/15 02:44 PM
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No, but it's more like "gay-exclusive". The sub is explicitly about interactions with women.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 05:10 PM
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The Spartans also held slaves, shaved their wives heads when they were married to look less feminine, had a society where women arguably had far more freedom/rights than men and fewer responsibilities (as well as being encouraged to participate in "masculine" sporting competition to be attractive and shunning housework so the slaves could do it), shamed men that didn't get married by a certain age, and weren't very heterosexually oriented. They're not exactly the shining beacon of TRP's brand of…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 03:37 PM
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You know, as someone with "a foot in each world", so to speak, I find this post to be a very genuine, calm, and well-written summary of why people seek out TRP's help. Whatever the other members of Reddit think about TRP, if they read this I'm reasonably confident that they'd find it mostly agreeable (provided it was presented as not RP so no prejudice could make them dislike it from the get-go). All in all, this is just a quality post. Good work, OP.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 08:37 PM
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Ok, something I've noticed happens here occasionally... do you guys not know what cuckoldry is? It's not just any past sexual behavior you find gross. It has a definition. It's when either your woman is being adulterous or when she has a kid that's not yours. A man marrying a woman with a high partner count isn't cuckoldry.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 06:51 PM
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Look up "Ultimate Surrender".
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 06:43 PM
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Huh. The only two I know that love Disney are probably the most solid women I know. One is marrying her high school sweetheart. They're eccentric but very much what a RP person would want if I had to make a judgement.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 08:05 PM
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We were leaving and I assume that was her way of getting me up. Apparently that's just how she is; it's not an unheard of thing for her to do that kind of thing.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/15 02:21 AM
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Probably had to do with filming and distributing porn of an unwilling participant.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 10:52 PM
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Well, he filmed and distributed pornography that the girl didn't want to be in. He was being pretty fucking stupid. She may have been a really gross woman, but he still fucked her over unfairly (harhar).
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 10:47 PM
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It was my girlfriend's sister and I was out of town with her family at her family reunion. I also thought it was someone else at the moment of it happening. I woke up on the couch to a slap to the face and when I opened my eyes her other sister was really close to me. I must have looked really pissed because my gf and her sister explained really quickly that it wasn't either of them. So apparently the other sister thought it was cool to walk past me on the couch, slap me in the face, and keep wa…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 10:32 PM
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Didn't that guy get sent to prison?
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 10:24 PM
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I had a girl do this to me once. I was very very angry.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 06:50 PM
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Lots of people feel uncomfortable by displays of vulnerability, especially if they don't know how to handle it. So it's just easier to blame the person they're talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:06 PM
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There's no way that wasn't staged. The last question being a big justice-y "false"? Them tracking down her ex? Come on. It's entertainment.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 02:14 PM
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TRP is amoral, it's theory. The theory, maybe. The application of it as it's discussed on the sub? That's certainly not amoral. The sub is a full spectrum of negativity and positivity. Once you're around it and understand it, you understand the negativity and don't give it much credence. They're just on their way to understanding. I do understand it. I've been a frequent reader for around 2 years now. I understand it well enough to know that it's not just the "new guys" that are negative. RPS's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:42 PM
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As a guy dating a girl that cooks and loves sex, I chuckled.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 05:00 PM
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The point is that women still benefit from benevolent sexism in many ways. This particular version my not apply where you are, but the commenters point is that women are typically treated differently than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:22 PM
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It's different for the elderly. That analogy isn't applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:21 PM
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Not really. Where I live on public transport men will offer their seats to women. Women don't do the same for men. Men are expected to do certain things women don't have to reciprocate. That phrase isn't restricted to catastrophe; women just get benevolent sexism in a lot of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:36 PM
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Of course women have different tastes and opinions on what qualifies as "muscular" or "wealthy". However, I'm still confident that if a man entered a room that was conventionally handsome, overtly fit, and had some degree of the other listed qualities he would still be attractive to most women. He may not reduce them all to a puddle of girlish glee, but I think that most woman would give him a chance at a date if he asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 11:40 AM
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I'm going to have to disagree. While many women (and men) have differing tastes in sexual attraction and LTR material, I think there are definitely men whose charisma, money, power, and/or looks can make them appealing to many or most women. I'd say that a handsome, wealthy, muscular, humorous man will attract most women in the same way that a beautiful, wealthy, fit, funny woman would attract most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 11:15 AM
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if they believe it's possible to prevent being cheated No, not really how they avoid becoming anxious about the possibility of being cheated on or having your heart broken when your ltr could choose to trade up at any time. I'd get over it after a while. If they "traded up", I'd certainly care, but it'd be proof to me that the woman I was dating wasn't worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 09:41 PM
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To be fair if they're drinking sodas it's probably not the most effective diet anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 10:12 AM
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Do I... Do I get a prize?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 09:01 AM
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And theres no anger or bitterness in "The Blue Pill"? I wouldn't say anger and bitterness so much as... I guess smugness? Moral satisfaction? Outrage circlejerking? The only thing you did this whole post in prove that if anything, you've swallowed the pill but are pretending that you didn't. I've taken some things from TRP, to be sure. I don't like all of it, but I certainly appreciate it's utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:59 AM
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We don't say that giving clean needles to junkies is condoning drug use, for example. Bad analogy (Though honestly I do consider giving needles enabling drug use; it's just done because it's better for public health if the needles are clean). In your analogy, you're not actively helping them do drugs, just giving them something clean to do it with. In an accurate analogy, the junkie comes to you and not only do you get a needle, you inject them with it yourself. That most certainly sounds to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 04:42 AM
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I know what "score" means. But in a female TRP equivalent, "score" might be something like getting a stable environment, a steady money flow, or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 04:01 AM
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Amongst girls, not necessarily guys. Just because girls know how to deal with other girls doesn't mean they know how to deal with men in a romantic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 11:51 PM
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I think you're giving women too much "credit". If all women knew about the wall, there'd be none hitting it without a backup. Just like TRP claims that only women see the top percentages of men as a representation for the whole of men, I think TRP only sees in women what they want to see as well. I sincerely, sincerely doubt that all women are well-versed in sexual dynamics. I've met some truly clueless chicks in my time. I mean, I'm no Casanova myself, but some girls I've met were pretty cluele…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 11:13 PM
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he fact of the matter is, you aren't going to drive them up the wall, because they don't really care. On the contrary; I see posts about slutty women, post-wall women, manipulative women, all kinds of women all the time on TRP. In fact, the top posts of all time are mostly revenge-type posts against those kinds of women. So if there was a place that women actually actively learned those tactics, I'd say it'd get under a few RPers skins. The problem is, they don't offer an alternative I'm not rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 11:08 PM
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As a male, I couldn't tell you what "scoring" to them would entail. It may be to your benefit or detriment. Either way, that's why I asked the question: to think about what it would look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:53 PM
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By the same token, I can say the "girl game" TRP exists to counter is something that some girls are "naturals" at, but many aren't. Just like some guys are "naturals" at game, some girls probably would find that sort of thing explained to them useful in the same way TRP finds it useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:50 PM
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Ok, that's a good point. But at the same time, a man doesn't really aggressively force his woman to be submissive. He simply is a certain way that allows her to be comfortably submissive. I still think Bakerofpie made a false equivalency.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:45 PM
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See, I think that, from a woman's perspective, TRP may be the same thing; teaching men to do "what they're already doing". I've seen a criticism on TRP that men below the "top 20%" of men are invisible to women, but I honestly think it goes similar in reverse. The percentile may be different (if it's at all accurate to begin with), but I think TRP takes for granted that all women know certain things when I really do think that many women are clueless about sexual dynamics. Just like men of TRP w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:41 PM
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If you had plenty of money sitting around, and your wife needed some, and it was really important to her, and a reasonable request, which would take like... 20 minutes worth of labor for you to provide that money. And you're just sitting around the fucking house counting your loads of money that you made while she was slaving away tending house, saying, "Nah I don't feeeeeeeeeeeeel like it today honey, maybe I'll give you that 20 bucks next week. For now, continue being penniless." In this scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:36 PM
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I think the man's life takes an enormous blow when his woman decides she isn't going to fuck him good and frequently like she used to. As a man that loves sex, I can definitely see the truth to this, though I still don't think it's equivalent. Lacking money can cause a lot of things, up to and including losing your home. Unless you're doing some shady shit to get sex, it's not like no sex will cause you to lose your house.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:28 PM
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In men they're admired. Just like in men sleeping around is admired.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:25 PM
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TRP doesn't really force a woman to be submissive. They just advocate finding submissive women and acting dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 08:18 AM
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I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 08:04 AM
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Any idea of timeframe?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:53 AM
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No, just like the "workout tips" section of TRP doesn't drive the rest of Reddit up the wall. The "maintaining dominance" part might, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:52 AM
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Any idea of what the title was? Nice flair by the way. Old school.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:46 AM
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I have no idea. The whole purpose of TRP was to give men that struggled with dating/confidence a toolkit. Since I'm not a struggling woman, I'm not sure what a detailed run-down of their version of TRP would look like. Probably make-up and workout tips, how to flirt, text game, maintaining dominance, "nexting" players that won't play ball, that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:46 AM
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And if the strategy wasn't just about sleeping with men, but getting whatever women wanted out of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:22 AM
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Just look at what was said. I'm barely condensing. What is stated in that post was that all women are greedy, inferior people. Every point is a new thing about women that degrades them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:13 AM
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I think one leads to another in this context. The list I copied is a long list of character flaws. They're things women have wrong with them. They're selfish, unchaste, manipulative... while these are technically character judgements, it's used to show that women are both unworthy and immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:01 AM
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Shit. Foiled! Though, last time I visited they weren't nearly as... aggressive as TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:57 AM
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Oh, you could just flip that though. Instead of ONS's, make "game" about relationships and how to get men to do the good boyfriend stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:53 AM
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Wow, I just realized.... you know what's the funniest shit ever? My only "RP" friend I have is currently dating a promiscuous girl. I have a sample size of 1, but.... good shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:45 AM
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They're character assassination. Not directly moral claims, but what they're saying is "Women are x, y, and z. All negative traits, and all things that suck". Essentially, women are immoral, greedy harpies. They don't have honor. I don't think it's anywhere near a stretch to make that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:14 AM
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BTW nice to see you go full BP for once, and not just be the devil's advocate :) Honestly, I've learned a fair amount from TRP, and taken what I think was useful. So I'm not all BP. In fact... if you were to check my /r/relationships posting history, or the only comment I've ever had gilded, you'd see a different side of me. I failed to see how this sidebar reading are not value judgements. Aren't they saying the bad of one's(women) standards/priorities? What would be a moral/character judgement…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:12 AM
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Remind me how many times and how many people of TRP in how many stickied and flaired posts remind you of wrongly taking things literally when they are not meant literally. Maybe I'm just a literal guy, but goddamn if most of TRPs ideas don't sound literal. With the exception of GLO, a ton of that shit sounds pretty damn serious. How they accuse you of not having reading comprehension and selectively abandoning common sense when addressing your favourite darling gender? Because you can't stand to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:08 AM
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I'm well aware they enjoy that sort of thing. Here's the deal though; it's not just a value judgement. It's saying she's less of a person, more of a husk of an individual because she's dated people before you. It's judging her character, not just her relationship value, based on something that TRP would claim is "amoral". If you still don't agree with me on that specific example, that's ok. How about some sidebar reading for you? Women are more selfish than men are in matters of money and love. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:05 AM
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Why are those things mutually exclusive? Why are those posts impossible for you guys to see as examples illustrating that the warning is true in places you don't expect it to be? Because it's used over and over again to literally mean that all women are a certain way. The post by bigredman you quoted talks about solipsism. And love. Read what he says:... What is so unreasonable about these? And this part? It's all about them and it's always about them. Even when they're talking about you it's ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:22 AM
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When you call someone "used up" because they've had sex, then yeah, that sounds like a moral judgement. You're allowed whatever dating criteria you want, but when it goes beyond that into being cruel for the sake of "punishment". Look at all the top RP posts of all time. Take a good look. Posts 1, 3, 4, 5, and 8 are revenge-porn stories about putting some slut or bitch in her place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:08 AM
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A hamster spinning on a wheel and a carousels of penises sounds like mocking a woman's choices to me. It's not "infantilizing" by treating them literally like children, it's "infantilizing" because it is a gender-specific way to mock behaviors of women as silly or irrational (Child-like in capability). Also, you think every girl in the West sleeps around, is solipsistic, will branch-swing (hypergamy), and follows the alpha/beta attraction dynamic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 01:47 AM
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That's what I always interpreted it as, but that's not really how it's used in TRP. You're right, I can point you to ECs discussing the topic. But seriously, if I can't take these guys' word for what a basic, fundamental RP term means, why are they ECs? Who really knows what TRP is then? I mean, AWALT isn't used to say "Be careful, you never know who can hurt you", it's used to say "Look at the shit this stupid/slutty bitch said/did or all girls like rough sex! All women, dude!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 01:39 AM
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They're over-generalizations, all of them. AWALT allows RP men to pretend as if all women are some conglomerate or biologically-tuned devious false rape accusing, money-searching, alpha-sperm-sucking bitch. It allows for rationalization of treating women like children; if they are all this way (or near all this way), then they really are child-like in their desires and mentality and therefor can be treated as such. The cock carousel and hamstering serve a similar purpose. Both have infantilizing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 01:21 AM
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I hate passive aggression. I'd rather a fight. I didn't used to pick up on it, or if I did I'd just take the passive aggression, but I don't anymore. I can't stand it. It's like stale, skunky air laced with anger floating around a room when someone's being passive aggressive, so I call them on the carpet. It's absolutely surprising how emotional someone will get when they're called on their shit, but I don't really are about "keeping the peace" anymore. I think more people should be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 10:30 PM
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Oh come on. Don't tell me that TRP doesn't often take offense at a woman sleeping around. I mean, just a few hours ago this post claiming that a man that gives away love easily (meant as a metaphor for a woman giving away sex easily) isn't "worthy" of love. That's a value judgement, isn't it? That's an enormously common theme too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 10:09 PM
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To be honest, I don't think she'd really see it that way (at least not until she realized what you were doing), and others probably wouldn't either. It's subtle. It's covert. It's manipulative IMO, and really passive aggressive, and yeah, I think it might fit the bill for "abuse" if it was deliberate. Even if it wasn't deliberate, I'd absolutely leave the relationship if someone was doing that to me with sex. Of course, my opinions don't count as law so take them with a pinch of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:50 PM
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Please stop with the infantilizing of women. How is it infantilizing to say that some women really are in financially dependent states? That's not infantinlizing; that's just facts. And your whole point seems predicated on the idea that a woman wants a divorce. Sure she gets half (of things obtained since the marriage), but as you've stated she now has sole custody of human beings to support, and she needs a job. How many mothers want their kid not to have a father, or wants to raise their kid a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:45 PM
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Rationalization is something everyone does. Men do it just as much as women. The only reason people think otherwise is because women are culturally allowed to be more emotional and express themselves more, so you're less likely to see a man do it overtly. I'd be willing to say that men do it in different ways than women, but I really don't think there's much of a quantitative difference in who rationalizes more. I think AWALT, the cock carousel, and even the idea of hamstering itself are ideas t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:10 PM
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Why can't a man just leave the relationship if they're not getting the sex they require? Also, in the case of a break-up, the breadwinner leaves their partner very vulnerable. A STAHM probably wouldn't have a career or decent job prospects when they're getting dumped; that's why alimony exists. However, when it comes to sex, what's changed for the man? He has his success, his money, his looks. What's stopping him from getting more sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:05 PM
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Why? Why would you rather be that guy? Because you get your dick wet? I get the argument. It's basically "If she's going to cheat with me, she'll cheat with someone else, and I'd rather be the one having the sex than someone else". But here's the thing: I still think that logic makes the person using it an asshole, even if it's technically true. Replace "cheat" with anything to see why. "She was going to neglect her baby anyway. I'd just rather I be the distraction she neglects the baby for than…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:02 PM
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To whomever is downvoting OPs comments, stop. This sub purposely removed downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:52 PM
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Not the person you replied to, but I'll try. If you were the sole source of money, I'd say it becomes abuse when you tell her to fuck you or you won't put gas in the car. Or you tell her to do something for you or else you'll blank. It's manipulation based on their lack of resources, and it puts them in uncomfortable or painful situations with no good way out. That's abuse IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:50 PM
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It's not sophistry. I just wasn't clear on what you meant. There's a huge difference in need and in utility when it comes to money and sex. They're not analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:46 PM
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I wasn't talking specifically to the logic of the law. I was trying to say that sex and money aren't really analogous, and that someone who is married can be very much entirely dependent on their spouses money, but sex doesn't really work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:44 PM
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Women absolutely have responsibility for their actions. Men do as well. Though you hold no "bond" with the man whose wife you're fucking, you're doing something to his marriage that will likely end it and crush him in the process. How is that not immoral? How is it not immoral to knowingly do something you know for certain has the potential to emotionally level a man to cinders? For all the anger TRP has when they read a story about some slut cheating on her boyfriend, they seem gleeful to enabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:37 PM
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Not forced, but it's not easy making a livable salary while also having child-rearing duties. The whole point of having a stay at home mother is so that the father can concentrate his efforts on career, and his wife the home. You can laugh all you want, but that just makes you ignorant of how much of a leg-up a man that has spent 10-20 years more than his wife building a career has over her professionally. Sure, the wife could make money, but after having spent years raising kids her earning pot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:34 PM
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How does one have "more sex than resources"? I mean... would a rich woman still have more sex than resources? This argument doesn't really make sense to me. It's like saying sex is something quantifiable or limited, like he or she has only 3 sexes a year to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:31 PM
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Technically, its not your "duty" to help someone that has fallen down. It's not your "duty" to hold the door for someone that has been hurt and has crutches/a wheelchair. It's not your "duty" to not pick up money that someone else dropped in front of you, or to refrain from stealing someone's identity. It's not your "duty" to do much of anything at all, really. Just pay taxes and then die. However, we encourage a code of conduct. It's really really simple. Just try to do things that help when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 07:29 PM
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A lot of people here are upset at the idea of fucking another man's wife? Because people still put value on the construct of marriage. You don't but I do. People in my life do. People in my city, state, and country still do. There have always been and will always be cheaters, but that doesn't mean people who aren't shouldn't respect the concept of a committed relationship. Also, I find it morally repugnant to hand-wave away damaging a marriage under the guise of it being "amoral". It really isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 06:50 PM
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This whole "sexual strategy is amoral" idea TRP has is, in my humble opinion, completely fucking retarded. It's every bit a hamster that they make fun of women for having. TRP would drone on and on about how a woman's sexual past is morally relevant and how them making sexually dubious decisions reflects poorly on them morally, but when a RPer does it it's just "amoral" strategy. The truth is, they simply refuse to cultivate a sense of morality in their sub. That's the end of it, really. I get n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 06:44 PM
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What woman in the Western world in 2014 is completely dependent on their husband for survival? Perhaps not literal survival, but there are plenty of stay at home mothers that are very much financially dependent on their husbands. They stay at home, sacrificing their earning potential (and lifelong career opportunities) to raise their children. This makes them extremely dependent on the breadwinner. They may not die of starvation without their husband, but their lives certainly take an enormous b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 06:21 PM
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"I just don't want to give her any of my money for some reason" - no one would ever accept this rationale from a man. Well for one, if you weren't in court I'm pretty sure you could say this. You could easily say that you didn't feel like giving your wife money to do something. It wouldn't be abusive given you had a reason and it wasn't simply to control your wife's actions. A woman decides she "just doesn't feel like having sex." Everyone sees this as perfectly acceptable -- why? Ok, I take iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 06:12 PM
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I mentioned my opinion on that in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:52 PM
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Then you could make a post about that as well. It's a valid concern, and if you want to explore that, by all means go for it. I personally don't really see the harm, as this sub is pretty contained and not exactly a very "loud" or even very well-known subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:51 PM
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Haha that's totally fine as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:45 PM
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I think it's about both. I mean... there are going to be reposts because some people probably weren't there for the original post or didn't see it. I certainly enjoy the conversation, but I think some ideas can be exchanged as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:41 PM
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When the sub first came up we actually tried keeping it more strictly moderated so it would be a "debate" in a truer sense. Unfortunately it ended poorly. The name was already made at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:39 PM
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I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:37 PM
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Is your flair a DBZ:A reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 09:08 PM
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It certainly is similar to the whole "Nice Guy" thing. Putting myself in a woman's place... it would just feel grimy. Here's this person who is trying to purchase my affections with gifts or the right combinations of compliments as if my emotions were purchasable or there was some cheat code to getting to fuck me. It would seem emotionally manipulative. Instead of understanding that I am not interested, this person continues to make attempts at sweet talking me into fucking them, but pretending …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 01:09 AM
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Not a girl, but here's my opinion: I think for two reasons. The first would be that it's probably off-putting to not be treated like an equal. It would be a pretty strong hint that the person you're talking to has some sort of self-esteem issue or doesn't think they're "worthy", which isn't a particularly attractive mindset. It would restrict your behavior for fear of hurting that person's perception. The second, and IMO the more important reason, is that someone that pedastalizes a woman probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:01 AM
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The Christian post? Yeah I just saw that...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:23 PM
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It depends on what generation you are and whether your parents insist on keeping with their culture. It's extremely likely that Amid was culturally Indian. I just didn't want to assume anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:54 PM
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I'd prefer not to be pegged. But seriously, I have my own criticisms of TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:39 PM
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Again, it's just missing the main point because they get caught up in some stupid detail. They think the brother telling was the wrong thing to do not because the man doesn't deserve to know what his soon-to-be wife values, but because it would embarrass the bride-to-be, and that's bad. They think the breakup was a bad thing not because they were such a strong, good couple, but because they don't think Amit should "slut-shame", regardless of his culture/religion. They think Amit's reaction (call…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:29 AM
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Great! Sounds like a fun holiday season!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:19 AM
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Well, that's good. Best wishes this holiday to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:08 AM
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Friggin stepparents man. They just suck sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:07 AM
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That's kind of BP in a nutshell though; they're very reactionary. It's pretty predictable, like watching someone stub their foot on a table; you just know that they're gonna limp and swear. With TBP you just know they're gonna lose the main point in the offensive details.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:05 AM
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Very much so. However, we don't really know if he was "culturally" indian. If he was, then I pretty much throw my hat in on the side of the brother telling him the truth, since that's very much a cultural value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:51 AM
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He really did fail me as a father in general, had he been a boss and not the victim I would be a very different man today. I honestly can't say I miss him either. Woah, harsh, but points for honesty. Still a Woman, but wonderful nonetheless. All my kek. My role model growing up was my Mom, and that didnt quite work out that well being a Male and all. Know that feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:45 AM
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Was it okay, or was it okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:43 AM
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Ah ok. NBD, I was just curious since you said they were pretty good parents, and I was wondering what about them could have messed you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:40 AM
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I think many do, but I don't want to make assumptions. About either side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:39 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTtgVSxfr5M&t=0m48s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:36 AM
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Sounds a bit rough. What's got ya messed up still?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:32 AM
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I'd say that would be funny, but I kinda know how that would work out, actually... you'd be the asshole taking advantage, and they'd be the women with no self-esteem being used by her chauvinist brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:29 AM
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I think it depends. Judging by how OP describes the brother, he's a little shit and probably didn't have the best of reasons for why he did what he did. That being said... if I held something to that degree of importance, I'd want someone to tell me. Like if my girlfriend had cheated, or been involved in something, or done something that someone knew I'd viscerally disprove of, I'd want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:27 AM
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The world would just die out, much like the famous rat experiment. Is there a source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:23 AM
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I'd laugh if at some point you found out your sister frequented TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:12 AM
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My mom and dad are both college educated and successful, though both are pretty "blue pill" and pretty absentee. I also had a very masculine stepfather around my teenage years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:11 AM
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Sister: Feminist SJW Your family get togethers must be like a sitcom
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:08 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/qERX2.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:04 AM
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Hahahahaha holy shit! I got to this part: Book after book about dogs, cheaters, players, emotionally unavailable men, narcissistic men, “Nice Guys” (the apparent latest bogeyman of the dating world), immature men who need to “man up!,” passive aggressive men, verbally abusive men, men who string women along with no intention of committing or marrying, and so forth. And I thought about why that sounds familiar. I leaned back in my chair and my eye wandered to the shelf above the computer desk and…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 04:01 AM
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I can't tell since you don't have any flair; are you blue or red pill in ideas? Also... it would probably be good etiquette to include my own parent information too, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 03:38 AM
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I think it's more complicated than that. I think the brother knew that having past sexual relationships would have matter to Amit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 03:33 AM
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You know, it could go both ways; Amit could have been a total tool that didn't have a legitimate reason for leaving Nikki. Or, on the other hand, he totally could have legitimate cultural, personal, or other reasons for having left. There isn't enough info given.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 03:29 AM
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Well, I think a few of those studies/articles mention similar risks regardless of sex, so... there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 09:54 PM
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I suppose I'll just have to take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 09:51 PM
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I'm a numbers guy, so I decided to use the google machine. Found a few sources on this: Study, Article, Journal, Study/Article So apparently there's a notable correlation between personal issues and casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 09:42 PM
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Yeah, that's what I figured. I know a few girls that do sleep around and a few that don't. I can't really use anecdote to get a sense of how common it is. TRP would say that lots of girls (if not all) do, but I don't like sweeping generalizations or anecdotes. So I can't really use my own experience (anecdote), and I can't use TRP's (generalization), so I guess I'll just have to settle for not knowing hot prevalent casual sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 09:27 PM
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All right then that answers my question. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 09:25 PM
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They were Catholic, so that may be skewed a bit. I mean... I wasn't there, so I don't know for sure, but it always seemed to me that my grandparents were extremely, firmly planted in monogamy. On both sides of my family tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 09:07 PM
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There's your numbers: Actually, I've seen this before multiple times; I'm quite familiar with these numbers. What I was asking wasn't whether girls with higher counts make crappy partners; I was asking how many girls sleep around. How prevalent casual sex is in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 09:06 PM
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I'd ask for a source, but I don't think there would be one for that. I just have a hard time believing that sexual fidelity wasn't a big deal back then. If anything, I'd thought it'd be MORE important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 08:34 PM
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So when you say that society is going to collapse, do you mean just in general, over time? Or do you mean that there's a RP explanation for why it will happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 08:33 PM
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Personally I think that if men want a de-emphasis on casual sex we've got to put some effort in too. So many dudes just fuck anything and take what they can get it's little wonder that casual sex is such a big thing. But that won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 08:05 PM
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So, marriage has been wrecked for a long time then. Is there anything that could "fix" it, and society in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:33 PM
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I keep hearing that society is going to collapse. Is that because the family is getting screwed up? Hypergamy? I still don't see the connection between women fucking around and the fall of the greatest superpower ever known to mankind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:20 PM
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You serious? I cannot imagine my grandparents touching any of that stuff. Like, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:14 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:12 PM
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Honestly, that doesn't matter in this situation. All that shows is that (if he had this fuckbuddy during his relationship) he's not faithful. Sure, it makes him a dick, but it doesn't change whether or not what he did was a good move. Whether or not he was cheating, he's totally within the bounds of reason to leave when his girlfriend showed sexual interest in someone else in front of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:09 PM
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Well, if it was wrecked for men as far back as over a 100 years ago, how is TRPs claims of wanting to go back to another time relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:07 PM
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For me, the idea of a traditional man from old times, say, the 19th century is like someone from a novel like The Count Of Monte-Cristo. You're going too far back. I think TRP's version is early to mid 1900s American masculinity, mixed with a bit of the more recent stuff you mentined.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:04 PM
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Baseball players teaming up OP. Pls nerf, coach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:01 PM
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The risk was more social than biological. Ok, that's true. However, I don't think you answered my question. How could anyone convince our culture to stop having casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:54 PM
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Could one make the argument that they are just doing to men what TRP feel they are doing to women? I mean, once they had access to contraceptives, they could then risk having sex like a man. So, by the same logic that TRP might say that they were just using RP ideas to get with women that have an unfair dating strategy, couldn't it be argued that women developed their own dating styles in response to how men dated before?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:41 PM
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I think Americans are very much people of action. If there's an issue (perceived or otherwise), Americans jump to "fix" it. While it can be a benefit, it can also be hugely detrimental. Lots of Americans gleefully rush to violate the very rights they proudly defend in other circumstances because they don't really think about the idea of "precedent". It's sad, but the very attitude that allows many Americans to perform great acts of charity and heroism (moral certainly and quick-acting) can lead …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:36 PM
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I still find the consequences of sleeping around a bit difficult to wrap my head around entirely. The way it's described is that once a woman does it, she's essentially no good for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:27 PM
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Well, I think I understand your point, and while I don't think that your idea works for everyone (though I don't think that's what you're suggesting anyway), I definitely see the value in having a partner to support you through life, and I see the value it brings to my life first-hand. So I find myself agreeing. Thanks for taking the time to discuss it with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:20 AM
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there does need to be more serious searching for who you are going to match up with I actually find myself agreeing with this. I think people don't really know how to go for a good relationship and end up using Tinder or bars to fill the void. I kind of stumbled into my relationship, but it's serious and makes me incredibly happy, and it was what I actively pursued and wanted. I don't think a lot of people either know how or have the desire to go out and pursue a relationship that's healthy and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:09 AM
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I explained my reasoning in my original post to you, Yeah, sorry. I've had quite a few replies lately. So, support systems (incentives too) that start earlier and that are more successful seems to be the meat of your point. Would this be a solution for everyone? Arguably, many people shouldn't get married young. I probably fit into that category. So, who gets married earlier, and would this have a net benefit, given that so many marriages fail?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:55 AM
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Yeah, I'm pretty much just explaining it. I may also have a bit of "devil's advocate" in there too, so that may be part of the confusion. I find it's sometimes easier to argue from a hypothetical stance; that way you get more productive conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:47 AM
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True. Keeping a tone neutral is key. It usually helps to explain why you think a certain way as you're saying you think it. However, there truly are some no-win scenarios. Some people like to hear themselves honk their "moral superiority" horn. I'm probably very guilty of it too. When it happens, it's just not possible to win; you're the bad guy and they're the good guy defending decent behavior, and nothing of value is exchanged. That's when you know to take your discussion elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:45 AM
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So lets assume promiscuity declined. Whether it be by some kind of super AIDS or by a youth counter-culture or any other manner of reasons. What specifically do you think would be made better by that change and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:42 AM
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Do you mean leaving TRP and going to those other subreddits? Because I've never considered myself "Red Pill". I helped make this sub because I found TRP interesting, but I don't drink from the same well. In fact, I made a pretty popular post that sums up my opinions on the matter rather well. If you meant something else by that, you'll have to specify; I read it as "why don't you leave TRP and go to other subs?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:39 AM
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My issue is with toxic masculinity: the notion that men have to be violent, unemotional, sexually aggressive, etc. That's the red pill in a little bundle, right there! Having been around TRP for a while (I think I've browsed it nearly every day since helping make this sub), I don't think TRP actually wants to be those things. Or rather, they didn't; they do now because being a male stereotype is what they think works sexually. However, I agree with you; I don't view masculinity in terms of who I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:33 AM
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I agree with that assessment. Despite leaning "Blue", I try to disengage the "feels" so I can hold a conversation. Otherwise it's just moralizing, preaching, and bickering that doesn't further understanding in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:30 AM
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What makes your ideal society radical?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:27 AM
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All right, I'll bite. Isn't it a fundamental, core principal of TRP that "attraction can't be negotiated"? I mean... with the invention of effective birth control women got the green light to have sex on their own volition, without the constraints of marriage. So how could one reduce promiscuity? Personally, I think the only reason people weren't banging as much as we are now is because the risks were far too great. Now with the pill and a condom sex is pretty damn safe; how could anyone (male o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:26 AM
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I actually have seen threads on TRP pop up specifically mentioning some of these shows. For example: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1pndca/i_started_watching_modern_family_yikes/ Maybe I was reaching when I used the media as an example of demonized masculinity though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:22 AM
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I think lots of people dont really but have various reasons to stay In that case then I'd say they're in it for the wrong reasons. I'd disagree that "most guys" are like that, but I probably wouldn't argue with "a lot of guys". I know friends that just stayed with girls (even crazy ones) because "the pussy is too good", so I'm not naive enough to believe that guys don't stay for regular sex. Though I think many want a good, fulfilling relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:18 AM
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Admittedly it was a poor example; media doesn't really give anyone a good shake, does it? Anyway, I didn't really mention oppression; just poor representation. BTW, love that flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:09 AM
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I think in most instances on TBP you'll find a large number of posts that just miss the point. They'll take something a commenter said or something from the post that either was or could have been done immorally and that negates the entire point of what TRP post was trying to get across. I don't often browse TBP for this very reason; it's a satire sub so it's value is limited to begin with, and add to that the fact that they often miss the point anyway, and I don't really have much love for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:57 AM
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Therefore, I disapprove strongly of them, and would prefer to see a shift in cultural norms which would improve my dating prospects. What would those norms be?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:46 AM
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I really genuinely think the vast majority of guys are just in them as a means to access regular sex. That's always been my prime motivator, but I am capable of brutal honesty about my own nature. I know many guys who either admit this outright or make it obvious. The other guys in LTRs seem to have a terror of being alone. Very few have genuine passion for their relationships or SOs or whatever. To be perfectly honest, I like the companionship. Knowing there's someone I can come home to that lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:46 AM
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Yeah, but then you look at crime shows and 9 out of 10 times, a strong masculine man will be the lead and 9 out of 10 times a woman will be the victim. I think it all depends on who it's marketed to. Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:39 AM
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I suppose I'm more of a numbers guy than anecdotes. It's not really easy to get numbers on hypergamy, but in my experience the girls I know tend to go for serious relationships, so our experiences differ, making it tough to see what you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:36 AM
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It sounds like a lot of your issues with women can be chalked up to stereotypes and the "worst" of women. I mean, I could make complaints about men that are a reflection of the complaints you're making about how awful guys are and how they're not worth much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:26 AM
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This one completely baffles me. I live in a super liberal place and most of my female friends are feminist and I've yet to be shamed of anything. One example I can give is in the school system; some states have banned things that are more male-centric (or at least competitive), like dodgeball and tag. Another example is that plenty of shows on TV have something like the Bumbling Dad Trope or any other manner of showing men in a negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:12 AM
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Women are completely out of control. In terms of hypergamy? Or something else? And what would it take to satisfy you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 04:46 AM
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Do you think changing the marriage laws would do much to make society more palatable for folks on TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 04:31 AM
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I'm not naming issues. I'm naming discussion topics. In fact, if you don't want to respond to all of it just pick one. I'll gladly talk about one specific thing. Are marriages too risky for a man? Are women not worth it anymore? Why? I think that these topics are pretty big ones in TRP and I'd like to see them discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 04:20 AM
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Now, my wife loves the attention. She pretends that I do not dote over her all of the time (bad daddy issues). Just giving my two cents: it's entirely possible this didn't get physical. I think what's going on here is a psychological need to "save" this dude, because that way she can "save" her father. I've seen this in my personal life; a person with a damaged father (especially a distant alcoholic one) who spends a lot of time listening the the problems of and getting close to another broken m…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 04:13 AM
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Funnily enough, the male version encapsulates a fair amount of RP ideas in seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 09:52 PM
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If you really feel this way, then this is not the sub for you. Everything about this screams troll, so you're getting a ban. If you are serious, take it to a depression subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 07:29 PM
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This seems like a troll, so I'm removing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 07:16 PM
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I felt bad for him because he's probably used to being hit by now. Watch his reaction to her first slap. He flinches pretty quickly and gets mostly out of the way. It makes me think he's used to being hit, and possibly not just by her.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/14 04:21 PM
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People on PPD that don't insult and don't argue from emotion make for a pretty good conversation to have. The tone allows for information to flow freely between my view and theirs and even if I don't agree I usually am willing to understand their views. So yeah, tone makes a huge difference in conversation quality, and when there's a rational, calm tone people are more likely to agree.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 06:13 PM
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Can you see the underlying theme of pragmatism in our ideology? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 10:58 PM
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I hear this trotted out a lot, but it's never really clear just what that harm might be. It's a boogeyman meant to scare people from taking an amoral outlook on romantic relationships. Well, for example there's the concept of LMR. While the idea can be used without causing harm, it is sometimes used to basically just mean "do what you want to her and don't listen to her protests". Regardless of whether or not it sometimes works, there will be times it doesn't. And it's rape by definition. Additi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 09:27 PM
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though your bias shines through just a touch. Well, that was partly the point. I deliberately separated my summation of the redpill with my opinion of it. There's a pretty definite line where it goes from unbiased (as much as possible) to biased. I'm left thinking "What's wrong with any of that?" I think often TRP gives pretty sociopathic advice that may result in someone else's harm. Though I know oftentimes it's spoken against, those harmful things are also encouraged at times. I think you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:15 PM
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Won't both? Lifting definitely will make you more attractive, but so will finding a hobby you enjoy that improves you. Something like programming may not, because that's not something you can really share with others. It's another language basically, and people that don't speak it won't be able to connect. Look back on what I said: having a hobby that others have in common is attractive. However, if you want just an answer to your question: I think lifting will get you more sex. I'm not saying n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:59 AM
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Well, you yourself just made him fat in this hypothetical. I mean, you don't have to be a stunner to get sex. Physical activity definitely helps a LOT, but I didn't leave that out. I had martial arts in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:43 AM
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Depends. I'm not gonna lie; being ripped gets you sex. But so does enjoying the fuck out of what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:26 AM
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If your sub is any indication, it is; I'm just someone that disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:14 AM
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You know, I actually laughed. Pretty spot-on. I just assumed you wanted sex more than a relationship TBH, so tinder sounded... more appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:40 PM
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Really? Never have. However, my roommate hopped on tinder and got a girl over at his place within the week (and we're in a conservative town). So the "market" can't be that badly flooded with single mothers so as to make it hard to find anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:27 PM
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You criticize that we are mocking weakness in beta guys. But you also say in a comment that a lot of trp "stinks of insecurity". Insecurity is a weakness. And you think it stinks. So while you might not be mocking it, your reaction shows that you have a problem with weakness, too. I think insecurity is part of life, not necessarily a weakness. I think just about every single man can relate to having felt emasculated at one point. However, I think it becomes worthy of criticism when that insecuri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:25 PM
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I didn't realize I linked to your post. I thought the only one I had was the "be a caveman" one. Anyway, what is "bruno mars masculinity", and why do I "participate"? Also, if you're the only restaurant in town then you shouldn't care much what I think of the food.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:13 PM
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This makes the assumption that she "blew up the marriage" in the first place. If, for example, I was dating a single mother that I knew intentionally ended the marriage for ridiculous reasons then you'd have a very good point. However, assuming that's the case is just incorrect. If you argue against marriage just in general, then I could understand. It's a large investment financially that can result in an even larger financial investment if it would end. And marriages ending is rather likely th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:10 PM
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If you actually got past my highly controversial click bait title: treating women like children you would see that the post is really about nurturing your girlfriend. Actually, I don't think I linked to your post about treating women like children; I think the only one I linked to in regards to treating women like children was authored by someone else. You'r probably a bit older and have a humanities or social science background. No, I'm in the "regular" sciences. Especially not you politically …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:01 PM
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No, it's not. You are a cuckold if someone fucks your wife, not if you marry a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:53 PM
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Are women NOT somehow lacking in agency? A woman just told Rolling Stone about a UVA rape story that has been proven as fabricated, and she's going to suffer absolutely NO consequences for making up a story that got every frat house on campus shut down. I think many are, though I would say the same about men. The fact that this woman made a false rape accusation in the first place is unacceptable, though I won't take it as proof that all women lack the ability to take responsibility for their ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:45 PM
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You know what, I get this. I understand. I think a lot of people that find TRP are people that need TRP. They're those guys that never could figure out why the fuck their girlfriends treat them like shit and why they got divorced. They're guys that have reason to be angry, and for a lot of them I have no moral high ground, no authority, no right to say that they just need to stop venting. Because they probably need a chance to vent, and one day I may need to vent about something and I'd hate for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:15 PM
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Sure. However, theories tend to be judged by those that use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:57 PM
2

Again, I'll have to disagree. Perhaps in theory there's no point in shaming a woman, but in practice it's not at all unpopular to link a woman's morality with the number of people she's slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:44 PM
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It doesn't judge a person's character any further than it is predictive of their future behavior. I'll have to disagree. There's a trend of characterizing promiscuous girls as immoral, at least in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:28 PM
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I don't go on /r/feminism so I couldn't say. However, if that was your opinion, that's your opinion. I honestly don't have an opinion on it because I have no experience with it. Also, just because you're stating your opinion doesn't make it a fact, just like my opinion isn't a fact. So both statements can and should be taken with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:26 PM
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if they did get laid my whole picture of the nature of women would fall apart I don't doubt for a second that many RPers get laid. You are blatanly showing us how your worldview is so blatanly defunct that you would never concede any ounce of truth to the TRP You must have not read the whole post. I get that my opinion may have gotten under your skin, but at least get my stance right if you're going to argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:24 PM
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Wow holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:19 PM
1

Fair enough. However, I still think that within our culture breasts are indecent. It deserves examination as to why that is, but currently I don't think it can be denied that it's a fact of western life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:13 PM
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Devious but smart. To share a secret, I sometimes like doing that too. I've pushed people a bit too far in conversations before just to get to the emotional paydirt. It cuts to the real meat of an issue really quick. It also gets people super emotional though, so I try to avoid doing it these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:12 AM
1

I like mine quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 08:09 AM
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Ha. Yeah, I don't have hard feelings. I'm probably a bit cooler tempered now than back then anyway. But not everyone is, so even if you have a point the contentiousness may get you in a fight or two. Gotta pick your battles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:56 AM
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My only contention is that I argue that the fears of most of these men are legitimate, and that the advice offered by TRP has the highest probability of preventing said fears from coming true. I'd say many fears are legitimate, though I think many are anxieties that TRP itself helps to perpetuate. I think you categorize this fear as irrational Not really; I think I'd categorize some as irrational or blown out of proportion. I certainly find value in some of the teachings, but a fair number are f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:54 AM
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That's certainly true. For example, this comment offers actual advice. However, oftentimes a response as useful as this doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:28 AM
2

Like a mood ring for comments? Haha I'm afraid not. If you're really invested you might think about putting some sort of disclaimer in front of a comment, though that may sound a bit... supplicating. The reason I originally thought you were being argumentative was because you brought up a spat you and I had months ago first thing. It felt a bit like you were picking a fight in that comment, though you weren't. So another solution may be to be very deliberate in what you say. Sadly, facial expres…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:22 AM
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That wasn't a jab at you, just a thank-you. In general RP-BP discussions have a higher frequency of being contentious so it's nice to have calm civil conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:10 AM
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I wasn't referring to "attacking the boyfriend" specifically in that post; it served just as the example of joking about how bad the boyfriend is getting screwed. The post itself isn't an example of making fun of the guy. However, it does happen in other posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:05 AM
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Fair enough. Despite the fact that this stuff can get heated and petty, I like a good dialogue. Exposure to other people and their ideas can be very helpful, especially if its something you disagree with. Anyway, thanks for keeping it civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:57 AM
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TRP isn't bullying people about it. If anything, its what TBP attempts to do. I didn't use the word bullying. In fact, I specifically avoided it. I know it's not bullying. But it is circle jerking using other people's misfortunes. Where does this psychoanalysis come from? Are all guys with nice cars compensating for having a small dick too? I've never understood this line of thinking. It's just what people who are aggravated by it say to themselves to make themselves feel better. Frankly, it com…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:49 AM
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If there was too much sympathy for the weak on trp it would make some readers fall into the trap of accepting their former weak state again. By "goes beyond just showing examples" I mean that it's not just examples of what not to do; its mockery. Just picking out the misfortunes of other men to make fun of how pathetic his situation is. My opinions on this can be summed up in this other comment. I know that it is dangerous for me. Too much understanding and empathy for me and I will cut back on …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:38 AM
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Call me a beta for saying this, but I hope you start picking up different girls, my man. It sounds like you've had a string of pretty terrible people. The girls I know may not be turned on by being nice and loyal, but they damn sure appreciate it. What turns them on is usually a confident, assured attitude. But I'm sure that's a comment you get all the fucking time and it probably doesn't mean a damn thing to you. So I'll just say, do whatever works for you and makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:32 AM
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They are celebrating being past that, and an achievement is something worth celebrating. I would rather see a man mock weakness because he is no longer weak, than be weak. Have you ever heard the phrase "We hate most in others what we fear in ourselves"? I think it's apt in this context. I had the benefit of being raised by some very masculine, very strong figures. The kinds of guys that people literally pointed out to me, not knowing I knew them, and mentioned that they looked scary/badass. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:26 AM
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you're not perfect, Very true. maybe you should reconsider your view of TRP. Maybe consider the anger phase is real, and that it ends. I have been around TRP for a long while. While there's always room for more information, I'd say my opinion is rather well-formed at this point. I also think that while much of the "toxicity" of TRP can be traced to people in the anger phase, a lot of it is just the general ideology itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:14 AM
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you just view masculine thinking as defective. Was this directed at me personally? Or just the general "you"? When did society decide that the weak and the vulnerable should be celebrated instead of something you should look down upon? It is not good to be in those positions. Of course no one likes being weak. It's not an enviable state, usually. However, I wasn't advocating being weak in my post. I was making a note of how often TRP seeks out examples of what they see as weakness to mock it. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:01 AM
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Entirely possible. However, I still don't see how this relates to the current topic of discussion, especially considering that this discussion you're mentioning must have occurred months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:57 AM
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I agree that our society puts WAY more emphasis on breasts than other cultures may, however I disagree that there's nothing "indecent" about it. I mean, doesn't culture play a large part in deciding what is and isn't "indecent" anyway? I'm sure a woman can walk around naked in some places and it isn't indecent, but in a Middle Eastern country showing an ankle or collarbone may be scandalous. Also, I'd argue that while breasts aren't sexual organs and aren't inherently sexual in function, in many…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:53 AM
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Not really. I vaguely remember using that list in a discussion with someone, but I don't remember the context nor the discussion itself. Edit: besides you not liking me, how is that topical, anyway? Seems like a random thing to bring up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:37 AM
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I don't disagree with everything TRP has to say, nor every part of it's "message". However, I strongly disagree with many parts and think a lot of the sub's culture is angry and toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:25 AM
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I'd consider myself Blue-pill-leaning. Straight, heterosexual white man. So AMA I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:09 AM
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If you have good ideas I'll take it under advisement. I'd love it for everyone to get a good experience out of the sub. Sure, Spart. Whatever you say, Spart If this is sarcasm, i could probably wrangle up a screenshot of the modmail where BP mods basically tell me to fuck off. Not even kidding; they weren't very accommodating.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/14 04:50 PM
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So TBP turned out to be a failure at first, but they managed to salvage the sub and made it useful again by introducing a new sub into the mix. PPD. PPD is TBP version 2.0. As co-creator of PPD, I just wanted to chime in and say this is pretty silly. When the sub was made, we contacted both RP and BP to see if they wanted to contribute. BP basically told us to go fuck ourselves. In no way was anyone involved in the structure of BP involved in making the sub.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/14 02:51 PM
2

Personally I think a "pure alpha" would be pretty impossible. For one, it's sort of like saying I want a "perfect" anything; perfect ideals are pretty impossible to be real just by the nature of reality. Though, with the person I just described they'd have to be a motivated, successful, unphasable, kind, rational, stable, exciting human being. Those traits are things you just don't see all together at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 01:37 AM
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I think a concentrated, pure alpha would be someone totally unphasable. He would know his goals and either know how to accomplish them or would learn how to accomplish them. He would accept nothing but his best effort in every aspect of his life. He wouldn't show his insecurity, or if he did, he would do it in a constructive manner. He would be compassionate, but firm; if someone tried to make excuses to him he wouldn't accept them as ways to get out of responsibility. Tell me how this person wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 10:18 PM
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Since its far from my field of study, I don't know what parts of feminism are still relevant. What I do know is that there are people that share the philosophy that get into positions that allow them to speak to a larger audience in a negative fashion about trivial things blown out of proportion. These people don't have my respect. They have my disgust and condemnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 07:48 AM
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Where the actual fuck up was with the ESA making that its public face It may not have been professional, but this man just did something a handful of people in the world could possibly do. Not only was it an incredible accomplishment for his program, but for mankind. He literally contributed something wonderful to the species. If I was his boss, you can bet your ass I'd let him wear something he felt comfortable in that his friend made for him. I'd let him have a comfortable, casual victory lap …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 09:38 PM
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I can't speak to the topic of discrimination from these fields; I don't have any data to present to say one way or the other. However, I do think that the shirt thing couldn't even be considered a "micro-aggression". If I saw a woman wearing a shirt with a sexily-posed Chris Hemsworth, I'd get a chuckle maybe but it's certainly not worth calling her sexist over. The man cried. It was his big accomplishment and people made him cry over nothing. Over something that any adult would take one look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 07:10 PM
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Which, interestingly enough, is pretty much how you should conduct yourself in every aspect of your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 06:49 PM
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Of course. Even if you're not particularly attuned to power shifts, you can still feel it. If one partner tries to take more power, that will make the other partner uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 06:36 PM
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I didn't get your message til today for some reason. Anyway, we may be seeing "dread game" as something different. You seem to be using it as synonymous with "ultimatum". I don't see anything inherently wrong with saying to a partner that you aren't getting your needs or desires met and if that doesn't change you want out. However, the tactics used and whether or not you say anything make a huge difference. For example, if you were to tell your partner to her/his face that you want more and if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 06:11 PM
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What I'm saying is, why would someone's shirt (that his female friend made him) be such a bother to a woman at that level of accomplishment? Why would it put off a woman who aspired to that level of accomplishment but was just starting? I get that a person has a finite number of fucks they can give before they transfer out of something, but would someone's shirt really register as even 1 fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 05:56 PM
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What are the social reasons for women not succeeding in STEM?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 04:44 PM
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I'd argue that power always has value and that there's always some power dynamic in relationships. Some may be rather equal power dynamics, but they're still there. The importance of power in a relationship may be lost on some, but all you have to do is look for someone that has no power in their relationship to see how important it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 04:36 PM
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Is the shirt really that much of a deterrent though? Would it be so off-putting at that high a level of skill that it would make women not want to enter the field? Honestly, I have a hard time thinking that a woman who is interested in engineering space craft would look at that mans shirt and decide it's not worth her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 04:33 PM
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I don't think it's manipulative in the malicious sense. I think it's pretty honest actually. However, I don't think that TRP often encourages dread game to be as overt as this analogy implied. Also, copter is right; this analogy only holds up as morally defensible if you aren't in a relationship already.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 02:33 AM
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It depends on the region; I won't really be able to speak to the girls outside where I live, as I don't have any experience in many places with many different cultures (hook-up culture isn't as big a thing here as in many other places), so I'll stick to answering the question in regards to my area. Typically, where I live girls are more conservative; if they do end up having sex before marriage it's typically within the confines of a relationship. Where I live, I'd say the average girl is a loos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 07:24 AM
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I've never been a fan of cleaning up bodily excretions. It's always been difficult for me to force myself to do it, even if it was something easy like the cat litter. Generally I'd be totally ok with having a reason to not do that particular chore. However, when the reasoning behind sparing me from doing the chore is that people think I may abuse a small child given the opportunity, that's totally unacceptable. When I have kids, I won't ever want to change their diaper, but if someone tries to t…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/14 08:30 PM
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There was a bit about male daycare employees not being allowed to change diapers because it made the parents uncomfortable. A really great comment about it: If you want this to change you just have to phrase it right: "Daycare says men aren't allowed to change diapers" = Crickets "Daycare says changing diapers is women's work" = Outrage
/r/TheRedPill06/10/14 02:46 PM
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Isn't that like saying "if women didn't like fucking betas there'd be no betas left"?
/r/TheRedPill30/09/14 06:12 PM
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No, not really. That thought is so depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 03:38 AM
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They're all comedy shows and none of them go into things with much depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 03:26 AM
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I like a good laugh like the next guy, but the problem that Stewart, Colbert, and Oliver have is that their positions are ideologically biased and designed to be simple in order to get the crowd to clap in agreement. Reality is more complicated than a sound bite. There are a ton of variables to consider in comparing the salaries of one half of the population to the other, and I don't think that's ever taken into account when this stuff comes up. It's easy to say "Women make this amount compared …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 05:29 AM
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But I do think he makes a good point that any Wage Gap is too much See, I have to wonder about this. If a company is given the right to make an offer to a potential employee, you're bound to see differences in salary just because some people will accept different pays than others. Unless you can somehow standardize what each profession at each level makes in the name of "fairness" I don't think you'll ever see the pay gap hit equal numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 04:06 AM
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Yeah totally didn't read the whole way through before I commented. I'll show myself out.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/14 07:00 AM
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Psssst... buddy... I'm gonna be that dork, but... A 360 puts you right back where you started. You probably meant 180.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/14 06:47 AM
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They will take out their penis and whack you with it at inappropriate moments. TIL I'm in a reddit-approved relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 03:32 AM
1

But that's their problem, Yes it is. I guess maybe that's part of the problem, I didn't read into it that the hypothetical woman lied about her past. I suppose I read it in because it doesn't make much sense any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 04:40 PM
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I thought the topic implied the woman was being misleading. Anyway, I think the RP position on having to "work" for what she gave away for free earlier is that having to work for it means you're of lower sexual value than the other man, and that's unacceptable to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 04:41 AM
2

Alphas are born. Are you referring to "alpha" as someone who gets casual sex very easily, or as someone that is just successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 12:40 AM
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The difference being that Boko Haram is murderous and rejects pretty much all science
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 06:29 PM
2

And again we circle back to, if all you get out of a LTR is pussy, why are you in an LTR? I think what collegebrah is talking about is a specific scenario: a man meets a woman he thinks is "chaste" and dates her, and after a few months has sex with her. Then he finds out that this woman isn't chaste and had sex with people on first dates. He feels upset by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 06:08 AM
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My understanding of what separates the betas from the alphas is one puts the pussy on the pedestal while the other holds the pussy accountable or else. That may be a separation of "beta" and "alpha" in TRP, but to me, it's not necessarily true when it comes to masculinity. My stepfather adored my mother, thought she was much smarter than him, and spoke with her at length for hours outside while he smoked a cigar and drank whiskey because he loved talking with her. My biological father, on the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 07:37 PM
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What else could "modern life sucks" possibly mean? I think saying "modern life sucks" is a sweeping generalization that, to me, sounds lazy. If you're in the West, there are several different cultures to be experienced. The South is notably different from the North (that's just America!), which is different from the West. If they all suck to you... Well, maybe it's you. Imagine you are one of these people and you are watching your civilization crumble before your eyes, your generation having fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 07:11 PM
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Please tell me you're kidding
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 06:49 PM
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There's a lot of guys brought up by single mothers who don't know a thing about masculinity, so they become whatever the fuck that is. I think masculinity takes many different forms, and is different to different men (though, God help those peacocking Guidos in the picture). I have a father that's very much an academic; he teaches engineering at a university, likes to fix up the home, does yardwork, enjoys making a nice dinner, etc. I also had a stepfather that was a balls-to-the-walls soldier. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 06:56 AM
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I figured your post was a good opportunity to introduce people to a broad outline of their views. I get that, but what I'm seeing from these posts is mostly "modern life sucks because it's not how I want it to be". Too many immigrants, the women are too sexual, the art these days sucks, men aren't taken seriously, etc. Though, honestly, this word stuck out to me: asabiyyah. I had to look this up. It's defined as: refers to social solidarity with an emphasis on unity, group consciousness and sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 06:43 AM
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So the Disney Concert Hall sucks? Fallingwater sucks? Works like Ron Muecks’ Boy have no merit? Hyperrealism is pretty darn cool. Certainly there's shitty art. I'd even say that a great majority of art that makes the news is shitty (Piss Christ being a great example). However, that doesn't mean that modern art all blows.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 06:14 AM
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Ok, since this seems largely anecdote, I'll use mine in my reply. Women in the west have atrociously inflated egos, because the current way society works, women are under no obligation to use their brains or mature beyond that of teenagers. I would say about 75+% (from personal experience) of women have the typical attitude that is so loathed by red pillers. They are utterly void of femininity unless they feel like using it to get what they want. To these women, femininity is viewed as a tool, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 05:39 AM
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This is quite a bit of info. I'll try to make a response to what I can. Modernity sucks. In what way? Well, let's count the ways: 1. Women are unpleasant, men are unmanly 2. Foreigners everywhere 3. Dysgenics 4. Corruption 5. Aesthetic taste has collapsed Which can be summed up as a lack of asabiyyah in general 1- I think that you're operating under certain expectations of what a man and woman "should" do that not everyone shares. I think there's plenty of men that are "manly" and women that are…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 05:20 AM
1

Mice experiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 04:00 AM
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Yeah, see, I don't know any of that. I didn't even know about not retracting it. I have no idea how I'd consul my son on his own anatomy, and as a potential father to a potential son, that's embarrassing. It's also sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 11:06 PM
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There are functional nerves in there, and the foreskin also covers the glans. It doesn't destroy the penis to remove the foreskin, but you're removing perfectly good tissue with nerves and a function for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 10:58 PM
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I'm not doing it to my kids when I have them. Fuck that. The only downside to that is that I'll have no idea how to teach them about that. I got snipped :/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 10:48 PM
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"Genital Mutilation", I think. Both male and female. Circumcision is so prevalent that my friend who was in sports said he got made fun of for not being circumcised. The more I think about that the more fucked up it is; he got made fun of for not having a piece of his penis removed. Da fuq?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 09:45 PM
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Barry is blunt, outgoing, and very animated. He doesn't have much of a filter, but once someone gets to know him it's nearly impossible not to like him. Barry doesn't really approach girls for the hell of it; he tends to try to get one girl for a relationship. That's just him. He's had approaches, and he's approached (one time he came back from the gym with multiple pictures of himself with other girls), but when it comes to casual encounters he doesn't have much success. Ron is... I'm not sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 09:33 PM
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I have two friends. One we'll call Ron, the other Barry. Ron was, at one point, a typical "nice guy". In high school he was chubby and unattractive until he lost weight over a summer. He's still a bit chubby and ok-looking, but he's not exactly a 10. For as long as I've known him he's been a sappy romantic, lecturing my friends and I on the correct way to kiss a girl and whatnot. When he went to college he changed a bit; joined a frat and adapted that kind of attitude, started wearing better-loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 06:41 PM
1

Kinda, yeah. Physically, I was attracted to the boobs and butt from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 06:58 PM
1

Men don't select women on "fertility and nurturing ability." This is certainly an anecdote, but I actually find the "motherly" qualities of my girlfriend incredibly attractive. She's got wide hips and is big-breasted, she's doting and feminine and emotional, and she cooks and cleans habitually. The qualities I find most attractive about her could be seen as "motherly" very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 03:09 PM
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I used that word long before I ever knew it's relation to tumblr-type things. I now can't use that word or else I'll get made fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 02:17 AM
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Sex is an intimate act that many people put value on. I don't think arguments get the same feelings of coveting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 01:47 AM
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do you think that "housework" is commonly seen as the women's job? Yes I honestly don't see how it would be a surprise, your specific family upbringing aside. Specifically, I was referring to a loss of attraction. I mean, I understand a guy getting a ribbing for cooking or cleaning in a more traditional environment, but what's weird to me is someone to be so put off that they take over the job and insist the man sit down and do something as stereotypical as "grab a beer and watch a game"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 02:43 AM
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I'm not super restrictive about the whole thing. My girlfriend cooks like 90-something percent of the time, and I usually clean afterwards. Though the work is "gendered", I consider it fair. I agree with you that egalitarian relationships doesn't preclude one gender doing a specific set of work. What I was commenting on was that I found it weird that someone could become turned off/upset at seeing someone doing housework. For me and my family, housework was always a team effort, so it's somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 11:58 PM
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I just wouldn't recommend it since marriage ends more often in unhappiness and/or divorce than not. Apparently divorce rates shrink hugely for the college-educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 11:35 PM
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Ok. So it's something that you feel is your realm. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 11:23 PM
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I figure. It's just that I was raised in a home that was very much egalitarian. The only work that was gender-segregated was lawnmowing, so someone having a reaction like Anita's is strange to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 11:22 PM
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I think I'm very much a realist. I don't expect things from people or trust them with things if they've proven in the past they don't do them. Though I consider myself a kind and tolerant person, if someone does something that upsets me, I never forget that thing, and what I trust that person with is forever affected by that act. I don't trust easily. If I meet someone new or I'm in new territory with someone I know, I try to be aware of their intentions. I mean, I could go on. Basically, though…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 10:47 PM
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Huh, that's strange to me. I've always thought of things like dishes, laundry, cleaning, etc, as just things you do if you see it needs to be done. I find it strange that there's a sexual component involved with some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 10:38 PM
7

Is him doing the housework actually a turn-off? Or is it that it doesn't really do anything for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 10:16 PM
1

If you look up "haaaaaapy theredpill" in google you get a few results. Here's one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 04:59 AM
2

Just a few more days. Hang in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 02:22 AM
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They kinda can. It's a school, not her home. You may disagree with the dress code, but it's hardly a loss of freedom to enforce standards in a place of education. Just like you wouldn't please your boss by walking into work wearing short shorts.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/14 07:22 AM
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What strikes me is that she's wearing a sweatshirt with the shorts. If she was wearing them because it was hot, how does that sweatshirt make any sense? I think she was embarrassed and is making a big stink over a little issue because of it.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/14 07:04 AM
1

When I think of "trade-offs" I think of giving something up to get something else, so I suppose I didn't understand the phrase.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 04:30 AM
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their inability to grasp the concept of trade-offs, Mind explaining? This is the first I'm hearing of this.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 11:21 PM
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With a name like that and interesting use of gifs I'm sure you'll have lots of fun this week!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 09:07 AM
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I think that power dynamics, even dysfunctional ones, develop naturally in a relationship. People who set boundaries and call their partners out probably have more equal relationships than those that just let things happen. If you have a person, man or woman, that has assumed a dominant role and the other just let them do so, you're bound to see the do I any one get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 07:47 PM
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How is it that you do not understand this line of reasoning? Echoing every non-politic statement by There's a difference between describing a sub as a whole and making assumptions about one person. sn't it you faggots who, from time to time, lobby the admins to ban this sub? Never done that. it kills you that we get to talk. Nope. I like that you get to discuss what you want, even if I don't agree.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/14 05:38 PM
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You're not laughing at "who da bebe daddy?" You're interfering with a male-safe space I hardly think a single comment qualifies as "interference". I answered a comment with just one of my own, explaining why people on TBP mock TRP. That's it. If people have strong opinions about something someone said, they sometimes mock them. Not hard to understand. As for the rest of what you wrote... you made so many assumptions about me it's ridiculous. You're being that guy, and your kind will be written i…
/r/TheRedPill26/05/14 04:28 AM
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Dude... /r/morbidreality exists. So does Maury.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/14 07:15 PM
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If a woman takes a bunch of drugs and goes home with a total stranger and then get rapes- who is at fault? I really don't like rape debates. They tend to... suck, if you'll pardon the pun. But I'll bite. This "type" of rape is very uncommon. If you want to discuss trends, the trend with rape is that it is caused mainly by someone the victim knew and trusted (you'll see that most rapes are caused by former or current lovers, friends, or relatives). But let's put that aside and use your example. S…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/14 09:01 PM
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When you read "women don't age mentally past the age of 2" it's not saying anyone actually believes that, it's something that is meant to get you thinking and give you an understanding of amused mastery I usually can tell which comments are intentionally hyperbolic. I get that this is what AWALT is supposed to be, and that not everything on TRP is supposed to be literal. However, not everyone means what they say hyperbolically (or if they do, it's indistinguishable from their actual opinion), an…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/14 08:22 PM
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EDIT: I had to remove the links previously in this comment because the bot doesn't allow them. I know what TRP is. I've been reading it for a long time. I've gone over everything in the sidebar under 'required reading' at least once, unless it's been updated since then. I wasn't here to stir shit, just to state a disagreement with one of the users. However, since you were kind enough to type out your opinion, I'll respond with mine. The red pill describes behavior based on our biological imperat…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/14 06:24 AM
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I wasn't arguing. At least, I'm not trying to. The commenter I responded to said this: TRP threatens their self made bubble of ignorance. Is why people don't like TRP. I don't think that's the reason people don't like TRP at all, and I said so.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/14 05:49 AM
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That's actually not true. The bystander effect is pretty powerful. People have laid dying on crowded streets before and it took hours for anyone to care. Unless someone was trained to handle that situation or has dealt with it before it's not anything new that no one would help.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 05:48 PM
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Fair enough. I'm not a particularly unbiased person on this topic. I have been reading TRP for a long time though, so I get quite a bit of it and thought I'd add my piece.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 03:48 PM
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A lot of them have been through things that TRP jokes about, so they see you guys as encouraging things you shouldn't. I know I'm getting downvoted to Hell but I don't care; it's not that TBP is afraid of TRP. Nor is the rest of reddit. They just don't like the opinions here.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 03:46 PM
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I don't let my opinions get in the way of my modding.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 03:43 PM
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I said go for it.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 03:42 PM
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I mod purplepill and have commented on both TRP and TBP so I suppose my word choice wasn't the best, but fine if you wanna dig through my history go for it.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 07:23 AM
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Please add a question or discussion topic to this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/14 07:02 AM
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Speaking as a bystander... no, they just genuinely feel disgusted by you. They find you morally revolting, so TBP is sort of like SRS, just for only you guys.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/14 06:54 AM
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I'd have to see data on that. Though, even if that's true, that's hardly proof black people are worse off by "any metric".
/r/TheRedPill20/05/14 09:16 PM
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You realize that blacks are worse off by nearly any metric now compared to 1960, right? Is this dude serious? You realize that the increased wealth and technology was ALL created by men, right? No, that's wrong as well. I know next to nothing of history and I can still offer up an example of a woman that contributed to science off the top of my head. Seriously, TRP seems to have lost all pretenses of being about self-improvement and has gone full right-wing uber conservative anti-feminist "nanny…
/r/TheRedPill19/05/14 08:10 AM
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I have a PUA friend who told me something similar to the strawberry game. Maybe you could find it, but off the top of my head it goes something like: You're going to visit your SO. Do you take a longer scenic route or a shorter more direct route with no scenic view? Before getting there you get him/her roses. White or red, and how many? When you get to his/her place, he/she isn't there; where do you leave the rose/roses? On the bedside table or on the sheets? I forget what each correlates to, bu…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/14 03:01 AM
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If you wanna talk about it make the post.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/14 04:52 PM
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Hence my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 09:12 PM
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I got rid of the comment, but as an FYI I'm thinking about removing the post as well. There's quite a few insults there, and regardless of whether or not I agree or whether examples can be given, we try to maintain a neutral tone in the posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 05:00 PM
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I really don't think it's far-fetched to think people aren't going to mob-grope you like they did. WTF did she think was gonna happen after she lifts her top off? Probably that they'd cheer or something. Maybe she just wasn't thinking at all. It doesn't really matter though. But modern western women want to be absolved of consequences to their behaviors, and to suggest otherwise makes you a "misogynist". A consequence of exposure isn't usually group sexual assault, nor is sexual assault an accep…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 12:21 AM
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I don't think it's crazy, but I do think it shows that we have different values.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:10 AM
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Do you want a woman who doesn't sleep with other people period, or does it matter that the person she sleeps with is black?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:04 AM
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Wait... why would a woman having previously dated a black man affect how your genetics are passed down?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 11:16 PM
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You're aware that American Western Civilization was built on the backs of different races, right?
/r/TheRedPill28/04/14 04:33 PM
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I think its got nothing to do with how "alpha" this guy is. She wants to fix him, to make him all better. A lot of girls have a savior complex for damaged guys and think they can change them. It takes repeated examples that these people don't change and probably some therapy before they will move on. I think a lot of people on TRP will recognize the male equivalent as being described on this sub before as "Captain Save-a-Hoe".
/r/TheRedPill19/04/14 04:45 PM
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Personally I'd approach Harle Quinn girl from the vid. If you could make it past the tidal wave of nerd come-ons.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/14 04:36 PM
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Further personal attacks are grounds for a ban. Please be nice to other users.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 04:59 PM
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There's a post called "getting ready to black-knight a high school girl". I think it was one of the top posts of all time. He wrote it.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/14 03:39 PM
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No personal attacks please. If you edit them out this comment will be approved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 08:54 PM
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She got a year of probation. She could have killed him. She saddled up next to him, pretended she was being assaulted, pushed him off of a high ledge, and then basked in glory as if she won some victory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 12:48 AM
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You getting mixed results on this is to be expected. People have different viewpoints on what someone's "responsibility" to others is. Clearly you think that you owe nothing to someone else, and quite frankly you're right. You don't owe someone else anything. It's not your responsibility to make sure a woman doesn't cheat; that's all on her. However, I still don't agree that it's all "fine". You're causing another guy pain down the road (maybe not if he doesn't find out, but let's assume he does…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 12:50 PM
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I'll play devil's advocate. I think the reason you see this attitude on TRP is because of things like this and /r/pussypass. It's not that women are demonstrably worse than men, it's that it seems that women aren't held accountable for their actions like men are. Oftentimes you'll see women in a youtube video or some article doing something that, if a man were to do it, he'd be arrested. Violence, sex with students, and other things that a woman may do can be documented as happening, but because…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 12:30 PM
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Some cultures are more prominent in their relation of sex and love. Lots of people in America would say that sex is just sex, and that they were cool with having it casually, but a fair number wouldn't. I'm one of those people that thinks sex has a bigger meaning, so I think infidelity would be far worse for me than someone that didn't ascribe those traits to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 03:39 PM
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So very removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 06:06 AM
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Why try to tone down masculinity? Why assume that there is anything wrong with it? I think some people find it frightening. A common perspective on masculine behavior is violence for the sake of domination and a lack of empathy. I personally have experienced how some girls don't really understand the difference between "serious" violence and "playful" violence. For example, my step-father was in the military. He'd often choke me out or pick a fight with me randomly just to see if I was on my toe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 10:31 PM
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If i can I'll discuss it with you tomorrow and explain my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 06:21 AM
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there is still a sense of groupthink[1] elitism and hypcracy within certain members of the moderation team. we need mods who can do their job, and disagree with other mods when need be. The mod team here is quite diverse, both in BP/RP leanings and in personality. We aren't perfect, but we do what we can to keep this place a nice environment. In your specific case, it's hard to see what happened exactly because the person you were talking with deleted their comments. Though, it makes sense that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:07 AM
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If you convince me otherwise, I'm down for forcing the mods to settle it in the octagon. Oh please yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 02:54 AM
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I think we should have clearer rules or guidelines about posting. It feels like a solid chunk of the posts here are meta posts or weak discussion posts which are boring and off topic. I agree with this sentiment. I've been thinking about a good way to do just this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 02:38 AM
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Haha that's not what I meant. Of course I want my girlfriend to have friends, and she and I are friends as well. When I said I didn't want a woman that does the above, I meant the verbs. Stripping, whoring, that kind of thing. I do want a wife, but I didn't think of that as something someone "does", more like something they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 05:50 PM
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Here's my take: Prostitute: a woman that has sex for money as a business transaction Stripper: a woman that strips for money as a business transaction Whore/Slut: whore is a prostitute. "Slut" is subjective based on the culture, but it's basically a woman that has sex more than the person using the word is comfortable with Gold Digger: a woman that enters a relationship with a man only for the monetary gain Friend: someone whose company you enjoy and that you can rely on Friend with Benefits: so…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 05:36 PM
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I was referring to the OP with that statement. You're free to use whatever measuring stick you want for women, even if it's a double standard. I don't care about that. What I was referring to was: It truly hurts to see gorgeous, cute, sexy, and beautiful girls running around, wanting only one, and then seeing them slut around and all fucking the same few guys on weekends, while you get turned away from parties. Why does he care so much? Why should it "hurt"? Does he want to fuck them or date the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 07:52 PM
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I had no point. I was explaining the parent comments position.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:59 PM
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I live in Texas. I'm well aware. However, those people never organized into groups to discuss "those ragheads" and how they were inferior. They just hated them on their own time (and they wouldn't have hated them as much I bet if they hadn't heard of terrible things they were doing).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:35 PM
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Is it really like in series like Desperate Housewives that there is always a huge community feeling in the US where everybody knows everything about everybody and there is huge social judging process, basically like popularity in high school? It depends strongly on the region. The United States is incredibly diverse; to try to claim it has one culture is absolutely ridiculous. In California they'll have much different cultures than in New York. I live in Texas, and here cultures vary by city. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:13 PM
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A hate group is an organized group of people that advocates animosity towards another group of people based on race, religion, gender, etc. People expressing animosity towards an enemy in war doesn't make them a hate group, and what's more is that I doubt they're expressing hatred because of their race, religion, or gender; it's more likely they "hate" the enemy because their friends are being killed by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:05 PM
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Sure, it's easier, but why care so much what other women do? Why hold women you don't know in such contempt? It's not like TRP values sex as something special; they want to fuck as much as they can. All you're saying is that they're enjoying themselves and have an easier time of it than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 02:53 PM
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You're not a group
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 02:47 PM
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I can think of none. Though I probably made it on a list because of this, I found the KKK website. No mention of hatred against blacks, just their own victimhood complex. Even the Westboro Baptist Church claims that "God hates fags", not that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:00 AM
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I'm not sure I see the equivalency you're trying to make. The point isn't that he doesn't want someone like him; it's that he does want someone like him (someone that would sleep around given the chance), but because he can't accomplish what they can he calls them sluts. If that's not what you meant then you should probably be more descriptive than one line of text that's just making an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 07:28 AM
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I "looked at what you were offering" well enough to take it apart in detail. Where was this detail? You're "sure" these things exist yet you don't have any references I'm sorry, would you like me to google everything for you? Was the handful of subreddits I gave you not good enough? I'm not sure that you have anything except happy thoughts to offer this discussion. All you've done is misread my sentences: So your go-to reason for endorsing those sources wasn't because you honestly thought they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 05:49 AM
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Look, I'm exhausted tonight and just didn't want to deal with you trying to pick apart what I offered without even looking at it. Here's me being blunt and honest: you want dating advice, seek it out. Askmen has a diverse cross-section of guys, many of whom experience the same thing other men do and want to talk about it. Discussing it with friends also helps. You may not like /r/relationships, but it's there as well as Seddit and dating_advice. I'm sure there's plenty of other blogs besides the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 05:29 AM
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It's that sub's entire purpose, so it's going to be far more compressed and focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 05:18 AM
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If they are suitable as a reference for a source, why aren't they suitable as a source themselves? I figured you were RP and were criticizing the options I gave, so I thought it stop the criticism to point out that your own sub likes both of those ideas. But that's not why they're good sources. The first is just common sense: if you're not succeeding, find someone who is and ask them. The second is a sub dedicated to mens issues, and dating falls under that umbrella. Neither of those places have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 05:12 AM
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TRP itself adheres to the "ask a fisherman" policy, so asking a man that does well with women seems to fit in line with it. I've seen threads with Redpillers praising AskMen as well. Dating_advice is a sub I've seen before but it's rarely mentioned on reddit for whatever reason, so I don't know it's efficacy, but it's there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 05:00 AM
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Personally? No. When I wanted to start dating I lucked out and found a girl I liked and started dating her, so I didn't need AskMen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 04:51 AM
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AskMen, Dating_Advice, that kind of thing. Or you could just ask some dude that's doing well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 04:17 AM
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There are other places to look. A lot of people give the "phony advice" because they just don't know. If you're in a friend group of guys that hasn't had any luck in dating and self-improvement, those friends aren't going to be able to help much. Honestly if I wanted good advice on picking up women I'd go to a guy that does it and ask him what makes him so successful. So being proactive needs to happen in the self-improvement process, but there's other places to look. Cracked has a great article…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 04:14 AM
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When I get home I'll answer this as best I can. Look for my edit. Edit: Is it anything more than the sexual dynamics corollary to young earth creationism? People in TBP think the same of you, just so you know. Here's the deal: some of TRP is genuinely good advice. Look good, work out, be more confident, don't be too upset when you strike out (abundance mentality), that kind of thing. But none of that advice is unique to TRP. It can be found elsewhere. Also, asking TBP what they would do or what …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:11 AM
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You're an interesting person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 12:59 AM
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It's a hyperbolic comparison to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 11:51 PM
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It's just "science", they have graphs of IQ bell curves and stuff "proving" they're right. It was absolutely a comparison. This is what the Red Pill does quite frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 09:59 PM
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associate any opposition to one of these movements (in this case, feminism) as if it's somehow related to Nazis, Hitler, the KKK, and the like. leftist/Marxist rhetoric Ummm... He all but said TRP is a proto-fascist What he was replying to was this from the OP: We do say a lot of offensive things, but no one is outright advocating rape or violence against women. While many don't agree with the status quo or the direction we're taking as a society, no one is straight up saying "kill all women/bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 05:54 PM
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That's because there are genuine differences between the two mediums, the visibility of the people that take the advice, and the extremity of that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 05:29 PM
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He made a comparison that was supposed to be extreme to make the point. Generally, even neo-Nazis don't say "kill all the blacks". They say things like, "We're just racial realists. Not only did you miss his point, but then you yourself started to call him names you were complaining about being called and fired up this ironic little rant: This, right here, is a perfect example of a leftist anti-white. he's a Marxist, a leftist, he's the one following a genocidal hate ideology, one that has a blo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 05:21 PM
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People make fun of it more than you'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 05:01 PM
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That's quite a story. What makes you think that's the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 03:48 PM
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Confirmation bias. He has a sub of men with the same experience as proof of one side and no female Red Pill equivalent to see the other side. That's my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 09:50 PM
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Having been here a while, I can give a general outline of what defines an alpha. 1) Independence An alpha doesn't need anyone else in their life. They make their own happiness and their own success. They don't rely on others and don't allow themselves to be taken advantage of. 2) Confidence Being assertive in getting what you want is alpha. They take risks, know their own value, and aren't afraid to chase what they desire. 3) Social Skill Being able to move smoothly through social interactions i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 05:35 PM
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Ok. This is still a leading question though. A better phrasing would be "Does rape culture exist?", and then you give your opinion below the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:25 PM
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What does that have to do with TRP, TBP, or sexual dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:17 PM
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This was deleted for the same reason the other one was.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:06 PM
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This has been removed for Rule 4 violation and suspected trolling. You are free to contest this with the mod team.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 04:00 PM
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You just wanted an excuse to use that image, didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 03:55 PM
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It's a way of shaming you into not judging. No one likes being judged based on looks and everyone likes to pretend they don't matter, so hearing someone break the unspoken rule and say they do matter stirs up everyone's insecurities. Somehow we've convinced ourselves as a society that it's much more polite to not be direct about thinking someone is unattractive and replaced it with phrases like "out of your league" or "not my type". Also, pretending they don't judge based on looks allows people …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:49 PM
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Saying that you wouldn't date someone based on their looks is shallow. What do you want me to elaborate on?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 03:14 AM
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For both men and women, I chalk it up to them having different values than I do, but I do think of it as rather meaningless fucking. It's not my thing, and mentally I sort of make a note. I tend to find the frequent-sex crowd to be less grounded and far more prone to bouts of drama/stupidity, so I tend to keep them at arm's length. I'm attracted to women. If I find out they have a high partner count it doesn't make me any less physically attracted to them, but I wouldn't ever date them. I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:34 AM
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"sorry I could never date you sweetie, I'm an asshole, you'd probably get burned out on me" I'm not so sure that would be as funny as you think it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:03 AM
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Yes, that's shallow. We can sit here and discuss the morality of it and whether or not being shallow is "bad", but judging someone based on their looks is shallow. Shallow: lacking intellectual or mental depth or subtlety; superficial (source) Unfortunately, by definition having a preference that is based on looks is shallow. You're making a judgement or excluding the possibility of dating someone based on outward (or superficial) appearances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 01:37 AM
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I have huge, bulging pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 12:40 AM
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There are places that aren't as bad, of course. But see for yourself; the US isn't all that great when it comes to dietary health.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 11:00 PM
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Americans tend toward obesity pretty heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:24 PM
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I'm 20 years old. 15 years younger than me is a huge issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 07:32 PM
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Yo, roflcopter... You may have replied to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 06:21 PM
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I can have a talk with the mod team about it tonight. We originally had it there because it was a ironic. This sub should promote neutrality over all if it wants to be successful. We make every effort to be neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:39 PM
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In this case it really does "depend". If I date 3 older women that are 3-4 years older than me it's no big deal. If the 1 out of 4 girls I date is 15 years younger, thats an issue. So, it's not as easy as "older" or "younger". Specifics are needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:29 PM
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I'm willing to change it out. I'm not particularly attached to it, and I get and respect your point even if I think it's a bit humorless and sensitive. It's also concerning that you've said this sub is about 'discussing TRP' as it places undue focus on TRP. It's 'purple pill' which means anyone is welcome to contribute You misunderstood. My point was that the main topics of discussion are RP ideas, or things relating to them, even if that means proposing alternatives. Certainly other ideas about…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:18 PM
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I don't know about everybody in this world, but me and my friends where a lot more focused on sex when we where 18. The point wasn't that 18-year olds were hornier, but that older men wouldn't have as much in common with 18 year olds. A 10-20 year difference is huge when those years have been spent getting a degree, a job, and living on your own while an 18 year old only knows high school life. So, if an older man doesn't have anything in common with a teenager, why date her? The implication is …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:08 PM
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Like I said, all of those are subjective. For example, I'd think that a relationships between an 18 year old and a 38 year old was creepy, but one between a 28 year old and a 48 year old I wouldn't. The "line" really depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:01 PM
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the sub should be a safe space, which means avoiding the use of gendered slurs anywhere, but especially in an area where new users learn about the purpose of the sub like the sidebar. I like the sidebar. It gets the point across, and if someone new sees it and is offended they either wouldn't last long on the sub or would cause enough of a stink that they'd just be an impediment anyway. This sub is here to discuss TRP. That includes some non-politically correct ideas that need to be addressed on…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 04:38 PM
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Keep in mind that TRP is very blunt, very hyperbolic, and they don't care about political correctness in the slightest. If that's something you don't want to read, it may be best you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 04:15 PM
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With that in mind, I don't really see an issue. I think people's reactions to you are largely because your relationship falls outside most people's comfortable "norm" for age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 04:12 PM
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I'm not entirely sure what the topic of discussion is for this post; it seems to be a statement of personal observations with no real question. But I'll assume you're trying to start a conversation about age differences in relationships. Here's a comment I made about this earlier, when it comes to older men preferring a younger woman: I think there are multiple contributing factors into why older men dating "freshly legal" girls creep others out. The first is that when someone older has a prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 03:36 PM
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I still don't understand what a post-wall woman is, still curious about that. This is how TRP defines it: "The point in a woman's life where her ego and self-assessed view of her sexual market value exceed her actual sexual market value; the beginning of the decline. Usually occurs as a wake-up shock to women when they realize that their power over men was temporary and that their looks are fading. This usually results with first denial and then a sudden change in priority towards looking for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 03:26 PM
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Those two rules are meant to be cheeky, really. It boils down to "be polite and keep the sub nice", but we had "don't be a dick" because it was pretty blunt and easy to grasp. Then someone complained about there not being a female version, so we added the "cunt" part later. be to encourage use of the report button and ban anyone who uses personal attacks. We do this a lot. A whole lot. I don't want this sub being a place where people are afraid to say what they mean for fear of being banned. As …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 03:05 PM
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First off, I very much don't think TRP is full of "alpha's", but that's something that we can discuss separately. Posting in a circle-jerk sub proclaiming how little you care about something shows exactly how much you care. It’s a waste of your time and efforts, and proves how much alphas are able to capture your attention. I think people on TBP do care, but not because TRP is full of interesting people. They care because they think that the RP ideology is wrong and immoral and can cause harm. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 01:06 AM
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I think some ideas deserve mockery. If it can't be backed up, isn't coherent, and leaves a possibility of real harm/hatred... Mockery seems to be an ok response.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 12:06 AM
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I think there are multiple contributing factors into why older men dating "freshly legal" girls creep others out. The first is that when someone older has a preference for 18 year olds it seems to be a fetishation of their youth. Since a girl at 21 or 25 doesn't really lose attractiveness to age and just seems more mature, it seems that what's attractive about these girls to the older person is their physical immaturity, and that is certainly an uncomfortable notion. The second is that an older …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 09:43 PM
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What are the user names of the alts? I'd like to see.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/14 04:19 AM
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I totally agree.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/14 02:55 AM
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If it's a nice salad you can call it an "antipasto". Unfortunately salads have a bit of a girlish "I'm on a diet" connotation, but if you add lots of things to it you can change the name.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/14 01:00 AM
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People who have seen real pain don't usually want to talk about it. I've known a lot of guys that went to war, and they didn't mention what they went through.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 11:01 PM
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I called you out for trolling me. At which point I said I wasn't a troll, then snapped a bit and called you a child, then stopped talking. I really feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel like you're the one who is butthurt cause you just always have to come back at me even after you claim you're done with me for good. I didn't say I was "done for good" Last night I gave one last response after doing something, then went to bed, like I said I was. I said I was done for the night. I replied again in the morning. …
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 09:38 PM
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I wasn't aware you wanted that to be the end of the discussion, nor is it obvious that I should have. Had you said you were done with the conversation, it would have ended there. You being butthurt this long after the fact is surprising.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 09:12 PM
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Really? That's how you wanted to end the conversation? What am I, a mind reader? I didn't follow you; I REPLIED.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 07:42 PM
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Show me where you said something like "stop responding to me" if you can. Edit: or where I pursued you with more than a couple comments/replies after you stopped
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 07:27 PM
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Blue Pillers had no avenue for discussing these things with you prior to PPD. If I recall correctly, there was another sub like it but it got trashed. Between that and you banning people that dissent (which does happen, and to some people that don't even comment, apparently), where else can people talk about RP Theory like they do on PPD? So, we're here at the same point we were before. I don't want to micromanage (and ruin) the debate sub. It doesn't work. We expect the users to be able to come…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 07:21 PM
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We did quite a bit. I think the combination of your debating style combined with your status as head of RP made your life harder on the sub than other members. If you felt unfairly ganged up on, I'm sorry. We have always tried to be committed to fairness, but we haven't been afraid to get rid of people if it is needed. Given that your sub is having a better time of the sub than BPers are, that the sub has calmed down after a few removals, and that very RP comments are frequently upvoted near the…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 05:47 PM
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Keep following me around this post. I'm sure it'll get you somewhere. I have the pictures. You told me "tl;dr no one cares". Clearly you don't care. Cool :)
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 05:44 PM
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Like I said, if you feel you're being trolled, stop talking to that person: you can choose who to talk to. There was a report button available to you for insults. In this thread you talk about how you discuss things; often in hyperbole. The issue is that doesn't translate well in a debate, where what you say is meant to be taken literally. That could be a source of your difficulties. No, you will not police misinterpretations, and trolls are well aware of it. When you give them the benefit of th…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 04:15 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: we CANNOT police misinterpretations. Either deal with it in the conversation or end it. I feel like we've been here before and we're just spinning our wheels, so I'm not going to be continuing this discussion.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 10:01 PM
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Again with "bias"? Both sides think we're biased! We can't be both, dude! I have the actual data too. Redpillers that contribute are more satisfied with the sub than blue pillers.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 09:35 PM
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We've softballed everyone in the past, including you. Even SpermJackalope got a huge pass before we started getting serious about culling some members. I was referring to banning soul at that time. I can't check to see if she's banned or not. I know the caused a great deal of headaches to the mod team though. You feel wronged. Fine, clearly I can't convince you that we don't have it out to get you, despite the fact that RP users are significantly more satisfied with the sub than blue pillers. If…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 09:13 PM
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We did delete soulcake's posts. For some reason the mod log doesn't go back further than 2 months, but we have deleted her posts before. We told her to calm her rhetoric down, and since I'm not at a computer I can't see if she's banned or not. She wasn't given any preferential treatment. It took a long time to ban a great deal of people, not just her.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 09:04 PM
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The fact that your wet blanket mod team decided the best way to deal with this level of trolling was to tell me to just not interact with soulcake instead of outright ban and delete the fucking thing- that told me just how much effort to put in, and the signal was loud and clear to other red pillers. I don't remember exactly, but what probably happened was that we told you to simply stop talking to people you thought were trolling you. We probably had no outright reason to ban soulcake, and jump…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 05:17 PM
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Ok
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:36 PM
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We address what's reported as best we can. Given that half our active user base is RP and they have a much higher satisfaction rate than the BP users, I say we do a pretty good job of keeping RP ideas from being shouted down. We have a comment like this as the second highest rated on a thread; I think RP ideas are pretty well accepted. Hotly contested maybe, but they're far from just shoved to the side.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:25 PM
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Good. Maybe you'll stop talking shit about the sub then. You were in the wrong. Or you can continue to whine like a petulant child. Your choice.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:14 PM
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I could tell you was having fun trolling the whole night. You're flat out lying when you say I was trolling anyone on /r/purplepilldebate. That never happened. To lie and say that I did makes you a dick bag until you take it back. This link shows everything I said to you in that thread. No trolling. I was blunt in saying what I thought but I wasn't trolling you. Then you called me an asshole. The ending of my reply, meant to keep discussion going: So maybe in the next comment you make don't call…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:07 PM
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Thought you had something better to do? I did it already. Took less time than I expected. Another orange envelope caught my eye. It's impressive how much you're acting like you wasn't being an asshole when there's picture evidence you yourself have already posted proving it. All I see is me trying to discuss things with you, you getting short with me, me getting pissed, and then stopping conversation. Then you came into my PMs. The entire time I never called you a name until you did, and that wa…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 06:03 AM
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It was all of you mods. 2 mods and someone else that wasn't a mod. I like how you had to throw in a quick, "child" insult just to get back at me. Which I promptly removed. I lost my cool and got rid of it. I messaged you privately because I didn't feel like arguing with you on your own sub... You know I was replying to a comment you made in the sub. Bull... fucking... shit. Here's your opening message: thanks for dragging this out long after I chose to leave the sub. Don't make the same mistake …
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 05:47 AM
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Actually, that's the politest way of saying "do something else" I could come up with. Pretty straightforward.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 05:36 AM
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After a couple times calling me a troll, I said: You know what? You're right. This game will just go on until I get tired of playing. And I'm tired. I'm done with your trolling. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. You went into MY personal inbox to talk to me afterwards. I'm done talking with you for the night; I've got something that needs doing.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 05:16 AM
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Oh, my god READ the names! Image 2 and 4 aren't even me! They're purple pill and another user! I stopped talking to you after 2 more comments. Image 1 set 2, oh good you did my job for me. Look at you go. You mean... me showing me getting tired of talking to you after you sent something to MY inbox and told me you weren't letting me have the last word? Yeah, I got frustrated. In my own inbox, away from the sub. Interesting how some of this isn't showing up when I click on it. Something to hide? …
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 05:09 AM
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I think you mean you won't apologize for kicking anyone who doesn't agree with your views. Again... come on. Look at our polls! Half our active users are RP! I'm pretty sure our banning record is in the single digits! We only do it when we feel a user is having a negative effect on the discussion. I'm sorry if you had a shit time of our sub. It can be rough, I know that. It's a tough topic to argue. But your ban wasn't because we didn't like what you argued. It was how you argued.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:40 AM
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Really? Dick bag? Geez, and you wonder why we had an issue with you. Fine, ok, we can do this. Here's the thread where I was talking with you, right? I spent that whole time making replies to you. Not trolling you. Genuine, often long replies to what you were saying. Here's you trolling myself, another mod, and another user after you got tired of replying to me. 1, 2, 3, 4 Here's the mod discussion after you asked to get back into the sub. Here's the conversation (that YOU initiated in MY inbox)…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:36 AM
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That's not really what happened. I don't have timestamps more accurate than "2 months", but I can tell you that I was having a discussion with you. I deleted my own comment when I lost my temper. Purple says she didn't engage you in PM first, and you engaged me in PM first as well. I got pissed that you were being pissy with me and Purple, so I was a dick. You weren't just trolling me either. You trolled other users.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:02 AM
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I have those messages too. You're ChaoticParadox, right? The guy that was giving one-word answers to people? Just saying "Troll"? And then I got fed up with you and started being a dick back because you decided to take the discussion to both mine and Purplepill's PM box? Yeah, I've got those saved.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 03:45 AM
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Give me a minute. Purple remembers this guy's alt, and she needs to look up which of his accounts we banned.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 03:12 AM
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Dude, come on. How many chances did we give you? How long did we let you break from being cordial before we banned you? One of the things Purple did was ask for your help in an official capacity, and also one of the first things Purple did was to thank you for contributing and told you if you needed help on the sub to come to us. Of the users who cared to answer our survey, half were red pill. We most definitely want to hear your side, and your side is heard. Mods try to keep both sides from des…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 03:08 AM
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I read a comment a while back that explained it. Basically, if your hobby was social suicide and you suffered for your games and suddenly the people who rejected you for it (girls) suddenly think it's cool you're going to be pissed and see it as encroachment. I personally see it as anger. Men are angry at being rejected, so they lash out at someone that is representative of the people that rejected them. You can see it in a lot of places. SJW's hate on men because of he actions of a few, etc. As…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 09:05 PM
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I'm not sure who deleted your comment or why; I'm the one you're referring to and I'm not offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 08:40 PM
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Best midichlorian fan-explanation: they don't cause the Force; they're just cells that are attracted to powerful Force users. So, the more powerful the individual, the more cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 03:42 PM
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I think people tend to want to date people within their age range, but I think biology puts a limit on something: it puts a limit on the age at which you can start a family. If a 38 year old man wants kids, he probably won't date a 38 year old woman. So I think it only matters when kids are wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 04:56 AM
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Haha you sound like the male version of the woman that goes for bad boys.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 05:47 PM
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I tend to view the "Wall" as something that's more general, and defined differently in different circumstances. For example, I go to a conservative southern university. This university has a storied history of women getting married to their partners while at school, so much so that there's a saying: "Two rings before spring" (your class ring and your wedding ring). What's interesting is that one of my friends that goes out to bars/clubs occasionally has noticed something: women at around the age…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 08:23 PM
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That sounds extremely unstable.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/14 06:18 PM
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What? Why the hell would you do it on a live animal?? There are practice skins made specifically for that purpose. From the look of it, they're cheap too. No human/animal testing needed. I have no idea why that guy let someone tattoo his ass. (Well, I do, but it's a dumb reason.)
/r/TheRedPill28/02/14 08:36 PM
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Pleasure, intimacy, fulfillment... Sex is just as good for women as it is for men. Why do you think it isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 02:26 PM
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she countered with "Well if you can do whatever you want, maybe I should just go out and have affairs". I'm hoping she's an ex-girlfriend.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 09:39 PM
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"Problematic" is one that SJW-types love to use.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 07:51 PM
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Honestly, I'm way too tired to discuss this. I don't even care much for the topic; I just like playing Devil's Advocate. I'll have to ask someone what the benefit of it is just to know. I just figured you'd like to see a comment so you knew someone was contemplating your opinions.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 05:28 AM
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I think it boils down to a difference in what you value. For someone who is for maternity leave, the money is an investment towards a child's future, and therefore the nation's future. For someone against it, maternity leave is a burden on the nation for the sake of people's choices. Differences of opinion.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 04:57 AM
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Porn was the excuse. She sounds controlling and ridiculous as-is; she probably always wanted the threesome, and now has something (small) to hold over his head so she can have it. I think she's really reaching here though; porn is hardly a good enough excuse for that kind of thing, even to someone manipulative. She probably knows this is the worst thing he's likely to do and is playing it up to make it sound worse than it is so that she can have some excuse to sleep with someone else.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 04:06 AM
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I'm always amazed at the difference between how I was before I had a father figure and how am now that I had one. My father pretty much walked out on the family by the time I was in 4th grade and was pretty horrible when he was around, so as you can imagine I was an angry, rather weak kid. By the time my mom divorced him I was someone with no confidence whatsoever. This went on until our move during my first year of high school, when my mother met the guy next door. Former DEA and SWAT sniper. H…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/14 03:41 PM
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Maybe I'm just slow, but I don't get this.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/14 07:17 PM
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Why the fuck do you care what she does after you have nexted her? I think it's pretty simple; most people simply can't stop caring about someone once they've been in a relationship with them. In one way or another, many people will still have a soft spot for them. That's why girls have this rule as well as guys (and with girls it's more serious in my opinion); if your friends fuck your ex, that's disrespectful to your feelings.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/14 03:32 PM
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Take from it what pieces of value it can give to your life and then explore other ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/14 06:07 AM
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I think I'm just holding a more skeptical attitude. girls tend to be more interested in working with PEOPLE. The toys thing, while evidence of girls and boys being different naturally, isn't relevant to their aptitudes. We're talking about different things. Personally, I think guys are naturally more interested in exactly the sort of thing we're discussing. I actually said that previously. However, we're talking about aptitude.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 11:11 PM
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Sorry man, the continuing trends seen in different cultures across human history is undeniable. Men and women are differnt... physically AND mentally. I don't doubt that men and women have differences. That's not the point I'm making. Variables don't matter because through out history there's been an uncountable number of variables and the results tend to stay roughly the same. I'm not sure what history you're studying, dude. Most historical societies put strict limits on what was a man's place …
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 10:54 PM
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Looked it up. She wants to know that you will stand up to her. That is how she will feel secure in the relationship. But there's a catch. She has to test to see if she can trust you. The first time you set a boundary with her she may react intensely. She will push against it. She will tell you that you are wrong for setting that boundary. She will do her best to find out if your boundary is for real. Yep, you're right. It definitely is a shit-test.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 10:21 PM
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You can't test it because you can't isolate all variables that are relevant. Being better at the sciences at the higher level is measuring the aptitude of individuals that have already had decades of socialization, so society has already had a huge impact on their development. Unless you know a way to measure the STEM capabilities of infants or you can find a society that is genuinely gender-neutral in terms of gender expectations, you're going to have skewed results. You could also give a lot o…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 10:17 PM
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Like I said, sometimes it's the small details that make a change. Have you ever heard of Lawrence Summers? President of Harvard? he suggested that the under-representation of women in science and engineering could be due to a "different availability of aptitude at the high end", and less to patterns of discrimination and socialization. He had to resign over that speech. That kind of pissed me off, because it's a suggestion that maybe differences are innate, and it should be looked into if that's…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 06:10 PM
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I'm not in a position where I can read the article. From the title it sounds like NOW wants the guy fired, but is it really just because of that quote? I don't know. I've emotionally "band-wagon-ed" a couple times before getting all of the information, and sometimes the devil is in the details, so I'd really rather not judge this specific instance.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 05:48 PM
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I didn't say I didn't have issues with things feminists do. Just that I don't think they're fucking up society.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 05:34 PM
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I distance myself from TRP because I hold different views on certain topics. I'm not conservative, I don't think feminism endangers society, and I don't think that masculinity is as black and white as some make it seem. I have opinions on all of these topics, of course. But they don't match up to TRP's.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 05:22 PM
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It's not just the term though. If I say I hold Redpill beliefs, that encompasses far more than just what I actually do believe. Now, I think TRP (along with any other idea) should be able to be discussed in a civil manner. I helped make a sub that does just that. But if I were to want to bring that sort of thing up with people and discuss it based on it's merits outside of a select few subs I can't use the words "Red Pill", or other key words you'd see in the Red Pill lexicon. It'd be like sayin…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 05:13 PM
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You think that she thought that her boyfriend would approve of this? I think she thought he might brush it off or say something like "it's because you're so pretty". Basically, it sounds to me like she wants some kind of validation. Do you believe there's a way to stop her from trying to hook up with this guy at that point? If a girl wants to cheat, she will. Sometimes regardless of how their partner treats them. I'm not saying that it'll happen; maybe the girl in the story won't. But she's look…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 05:05 PM
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Honestly, I wouldn't even call it a shit-test. The only reason she brought it up was probably so that she didn't feel guilty about texting the guy later. She got mad because the boyfriend didn't approve, which means she probably should feel guilty, which isn't what she wanted to hear.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 04:13 PM
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Honestly, there's a good number of RP ideas that I've picked up on. I just don't label those opinions as RP because TRP has other connotations and ideas than just things like "trickle truth" and whatnot.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 04:04 PM
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Coming from Mr. i-like-vagina that's not very surprising.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/14 01:12 AM
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I actually had a discussion about this just today. It sucks so hard that that sort of thing has any relevance. It reminded me to take that off my Facebook page.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 04:29 AM
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That's not a plate; its a marriage.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 11:57 PM
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He means he can either downgrade his girlfriend to a fuckbuddy, or he can just drop her entirely.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 03:33 PM
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I called no person, no individual, an asshole Fair point. Though, you did call people assholes. By the same token of calling a person an asshole, it detracts from discussion. Try to keep that kind of thing out of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 05:43 AM
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No personal attacks. "Assholes" is a personal attack. We don't tolerate personal attacks here. If you have an issue with the morality of an argument, discuss that, not the an individual's overall moral character.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 05:13 AM
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I actually have some time on the weekends ;D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 04:58 AM
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I spend time to read what you assholes have to say. It turns out you're assholes. Take out this kind of language and I'll approve the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 04:42 AM
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you're assholes. Take this out and I'll approve your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 04:41 AM
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It may very well be what the OP was suggesting. I think I went on there once on accident and it wasn't private then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 01:52 AM
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I only mention a different subreddit name because purplepilldebate has been more like a forum of debate between trp and anti-trp. This was the purpose of this sub. It's purplepilldebate. /u/purplepilldebate approached me to help make this sub because they wanted an area where this kind of thing could be discussed more or less in civil ways, because TRP is outright rejected out of hand throughout most of Reddit. This subreddit could grow and/or branch into /r/thepurplepill[1] * or something where…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 01:05 AM
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older, not attractive, not even sanitary, not a lot of money, not a lot of formal education, not a good job, not having a house or things, but still somehow able to pull very young women. As someone that frequents TRP, I can tell you that this generalization is most certainly not accurate. In fact, I've seen an opposing generalization made even more often: that RPers are young, college-aged men that are only upset because they didn't get the pussy they felt "entitled" to in high school. I've cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 12:56 AM
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I don't get cold sores. But anyway, I was referring to genital herpes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/14 04:31 PM
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really only have herpes to worry about, which is a relatively harmless disease that 16% of the population has anyway This is certainly a tangent from what your conversation is, but I would so, so, SO not want herpes. I suppose it could be called harmless relative to something like HIV, but I mean... that shit's permanent. It's not going to kill you, but you'll never get rid of it. Personally, I think that's a really big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 06:38 PM
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They actively disrespect promiscuous women. They idolize Patrice Oneal for saying shitty things about promiscuous women. They call them disgusting and worthless. I think this comes back to the "anger" part of TRP. It tends to be guys who have been burnt before by girls. I can't tell you how many times I've seen "example posts" with women cheating on unsuspecting guys, or guys who got financially and emotionally screwed by a woman and the comments are full of men that know how that feels. There's…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 06:33 PM
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I'm not the one being called a rapist or a rape apologist. I thought honest answers would be useful.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 04:14 PM
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You're trying to convince me it happens. I get it. Girls do this. I didn't need the convincing. What I'm saying is that some of the RP responses to this happening sound rapey. That's literally it.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 04:12 PM
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Trolololol
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 04:10 PM
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I've actually seen that advice given as well. But that's not what Reddit sees. Which is why I made the comment.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 04:09 PM
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When I say LMR, I'm specifically referring to TRP's advice on handling it. Namely, pushing through it. My bad for not specifying I suppose. But thats the part that freaks people out.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 04:08 PM
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You'll have to take that up with the women in your life.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 04:05 PM
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You should also do some research on rape fantasies, those numbers might surprise you. I'm well aware, actually. Though, it's usually a fantasy that is most comfortably played out when trust is involved. Like noted rape-faker /u/SpermJackalope ? Not sure what you mean by this. I think the only reason you bring this light to sexual assault is because of how weak you believe women are. Or because sexual assault is a genuine fear for a lot of women? Look, we've strayed from the point and you're gett…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 04:03 PM
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For some reason, "virgin redditor" jokes still make me chuckle. But anyway, I'm not denying that some women play games or any such thing before getting into bed. What I am trying to say is that this concept is a source of nervousness with other people. If a woman sees that men come to the table expecting to ignore a few "no's", they're going to get nervous.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 03:52 PM
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Do women not have the free will to express their desires to the man they are in bed with? Why can you not give a woman the chance and opportunity to reveal exactly what she means when she says 'no', given the knowledge that women often lie the first time around? If you claim that the "no" a woman gives you the first time around is a lie, then yes, people are going to get nervous around your ideas. Whether it's true or not that some women say "no" and don't necessarily mean it, other women are go…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 03:49 PM
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To vilify the existence of LMR is to say "objective facts about sexual desire are rape". I took no stance on any RP idea anywhere in this thread. I was explaining the perception of others. Please go back to your ignorant circle jerk. A question was asked, and I answered. You don't have to like the answer, but let's be real; what would the real circle-jerk have been had I not commented? I think it would have been the answers on this thread. Things like "betas gonna hate" or "we're just not PC and…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 03:44 PM
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If you think that not taking "no" for an answer doesn't constitute a threat in a situation for a girl, then I get why you don't understand why TRP comes off the way it does on Reddit. I get that that's not supposed to be what LMR is about, but that's how the rest of Reddit sees it.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 03:39 PM
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Wow, dude, chill the fuck out. You asked why people think you guys are rapey, and I gave you a quick overview. I'm a purplepill mod; I think I'm uniquely positioned to make that call. I didn't say other people understood TRP; I said this is what people see in TRP. Calm your titties. If you want insight into why "bluepill" people dislike TRP, I found you a thread that will help: here. I added anti-feminism there under the category of "doesn't help", not "why TRP seems rapey". Two separate things.…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 03:18 PM
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Narcissism: 1.4 (9th Percentile) Machiavellianism: 2.6 (40th Percentile) Psychopathy: 1.1 (4th Percentile) I only scored moderately high on Machiavellianism, and I think that's because the questions were asking whether I thought it was smart to keep secrets or that sort of thing. Not all of them asked if I actually did those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 04:42 AM
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That's what Russian Olympians look like.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 03:27 AM
3

Oh, come on. This was probably staged and the husband was probably coached to act devastated and hurt to set him up as a victim. This reeks of Maury-style ridiculousness.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 04:47 AM
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The closest you can get to reviving someone in the HP universe, IIRC, is the Resurrection Stone, and that brings people back in what is basically a ghost form.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/14 08:18 PM
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TRP is designed to be for men. Exclusively. I'm sure they'd tell you that what they discuss can be applied more universally, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 07:11 PM
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That "Granger" one took up waaaaayyy too much of my time.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/14 06:03 PM
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One of Ron's twin brothers died though.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/14 05:04 PM
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It says gross, yes. I'm just telling you to make it explicitly clear. I'm hardly offended or upset (though that was some weird shit).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 06:29 AM
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GayLube, I know you like to put links in your posts, but please put a NSFW tag on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 06:11 AM
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The problem with this (and im sorry to be such a downer) is that there's plenty of guys who are with a girl for five, six, even seven years. Love each other completely, trust each other. And bam. It still happens. Such a Debbie Downer, bro. But I understand. It's simply not possible to know. As someone that values trust and knows what it feels like when it's broken, I suppose that's just something I'll have to muscle through.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:14 PM
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I didn't think it was a common thing. i've learned to enjoy being with women as long as i limit my expectations. My personal philosophy is to trust as far as someone has proven they can be trusted, and only in regards to that particular topic.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 06:20 AM
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Man, my brain is just not working. I must be super tired or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 05:35 AM
3

Yeah, that sounded entirely false.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:32 AM
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little girls' fantasy involves their innate goodness. To this day I still fantasize about being a superhero, or doing something heroic. I don't think it's just girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 05:18 AM
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Every woman is CAPABLE of this. The key to understanding NAWALT/AWALT is to accept the fact that 'i love you' is a promise no one can know if they'll be able to keep. So, basically the second option then? You assume that they're capable of it because there's no guarantee she won't?
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 04:50 AM
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Captain Megacock alpha That's... an interesting way to describe her lover, I guess.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 04:48 AM
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I've always wondered... is NAWALT something that literally insinuates all women do this, or is it more of a self-defense mantra: Assume she will do it, because there's a likelyhood she will?
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 04:14 AM
0

So are you simply saving an observation, or asking PurplePill's opinions of it, or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 04:10 AM
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You guys really need to consider the fact that this type of environment doesn't lend itself well to discussion or debate from the RP side. Debate is debate. You come to the table and calmly discuss your ideas. It's not politically correct. I'm well aware. I've been modding this sub for months, and browsed TRP for months before that. I'm not asking you to not use your own vocabulary. If you claim that women that sleep around don't deserve X, explain your belief. If you claim women are hypergamous…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 04:01 AM
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Fuck your source. Fuck your peer reviewed research. Its bad, simply, because you're being a selfish fucking whore. At least when RPers call a woman hypergamous, they at least try to explain why they think that way. "Being a slut is bad... simply, because you're being a selfish fucking whore" doesn't add anything, and the entirety of your post is accusatory and insulting. Example: When I think that she'll someday end up in college with the likes of people like you, I lose sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 03:26 AM
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Provide perspective then. Just follow the rules. You're way too emotional and insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:29 AM
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I'm not being a prick, I'm warning him that this post is coming down. The mods all agree it violates many rules. For now you will be benevolent and allow us to read it? Read it again. I wanted to tell him how things work in a debate because he clearly doesn't get it. Makes you sound like a prick who should not have any influence. My feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:28 AM
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This isn't a discussion or debate, it's a lecture. If you can't defend what you think without simply calling someone a "stupid selfish whore" then you're not debating. You're raging. If you decide to censor it, then you're not debating Red Pill. Yes, we are. But in debates there are rules of conduct. You don't see Romney calling Obama a stupid fucking whore during a debate, do you? Debates are moderated. They're supposed to involve evidence and things besides raw emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:16 AM
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I am just about ready to remove this post. But you know what? Have your little vent for now. I'll probably remove it in a bit, but for now I want to say a few things. You guys just have this fucking way of taking traditions and morality and turning it on its head. Do you know what the subtext of this subreddit is? "Question what you believe". It's not productive to throw a tantrum because people actually want you to do that, because they believe different things than you. Your pseudo-academic re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:09 AM
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What made you think that, out of curiosity?
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 06:21 PM
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Just let them free into the wild!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:42 AM
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I always laugh when I see that picture. It doesn't seem like particularly useful training.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 03:37 AM
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Challenging each other, including each other's manhood, is part of how men interact. He wanted to converse as men, and we as doing so. When pal-ing around? Sure. A ribbing happens when you're hanging out. But when you're on a debate sub, you don't debate "as men", as you put it. Masculinity isn't right just by virtue of being masculine in debate, and when discussing topics seriously it's not constructive to give someone a chiding about their masculinity, especially if you don't know them. He him…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 03:47 AM
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Do I really have to define that? You called into question his manhood unnecessarily and told him that he should expect his manhood to be "revoked" because of his beliefs. That didn't add anything but insult. Just get rid of the paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 02:32 AM
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Whether you're a man, or not, is debatable. Manhood isn't something you get just because you're over 18 and have a penis. Manhood is a status which must be earned, and which can be challenged and revoked at anytime. Given that you're expressing a feminist world view here, you should expect to get your "Man Card" pulled. This comment has been removed for violating rule 1 and 5. If rephrased I will approve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 01:13 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what was the point you were going to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 01:10 AM
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My original comment was my explanation of what the people on TRP were discussing, not my own opinion. I think the point is that if a woman is saying that but is sleeping around with people who clearly are only there for the sex, then the phrase "you only want me for my pussy" is just a way for a woman to say that she's offended that men see her that way, while being that way in reality. Basically, I think what TRP is saying here is that if a woman has more value than her pussy, she should show t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 12:26 AM
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The same way anyone who does something habitually will color how people perceive them. For example, I have a friend that is a notorious flake. Just about any time he's invited to something he's either multiple hours late or he'll contact us hours after he accepted the invite and say that he can't make it. After several times of doing this, not only have my friends come to expect it, but we also adapt our reactions to accommodate. We'll either invite him early or send an invitation and just expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 10:45 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by "right", but regardless of whether or not a woman asks, people are going to have their perception colored by her actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 10:18 PM
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I absolutely understand your point, which is why I said I'd look at it later and discuss it with other mods. I didn't say I'd delete the post outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 10:09 PM
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I didn't say the two statements were comparable. Just that the statement seemed loaded to me, and it seemed loaded because it drew a conclusion from a conversation that never mentioned women as objects, and asked if RP men see women as objects. It seemed to me to be bluntly accusatory, almost a "what do you have to say for yourself" kind of post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 08:54 PM
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Yeah, this seems very much like a loaded question. I can't do anything right now, but when I can I'll talk with other mods about this post. For now it'll have to stay up as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 07:12 PM
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I think the point is that if a woman is saying that but is sleeping around with people who clearly are only there for the sex, then the phrase "you only want me for my pussy" is just a way for a woman to say that she's offended that men see her that way, while being that way in reality. Basically, I think what TRP is saying here is that if a woman has more value than her pussy, she should show that value or not be surprised when men come to her for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 07:10 PM
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I think absolutes happen quite frequently, and not just implied ones made by omitting words for brevity. For example, I was looking at the post titled "After seeing the response to a topic I made on /r/askwomen, I think I'm ready to join you guys" when I saw your message. The top comment has this: A women can NEVER love you the same way you love her, ain't going to happen so stop hoping for it. Absolutes are rather commonplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 04:43 PM
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I actually used to use that word before I reddited. I stopped after I saw that it's a buzz word now.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/14 04:11 PM
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i dont see TRP being taught in colleges haha Well, I don't really see any of that stuff you listed as an equivalency to TRP. I have never heard talk of how to "game" men or anything from a feminist, or even from SRS. Sure, I've heard plenty of ridiculous stuff, but I don't think that kind of thing really is equal to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 04:24 AM
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Yes, individual men can have these flaws, just as individual women may lack them. It's interesting to see this view; most of the time when I'm browsing TRP I find absolutes regarding gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 03:07 AM
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You seem awfully knowledgeable about RPS's interactions with us...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:20 AM
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More like "I find that threatening/far too pushy for comfort". If someone is "creepy", they make you uneasy. Sure, the word can me misused as a way of shutting someone down, but the way it's usually used is to describe someone that is oblivious to social boundaries and continues to plow through them, causing discomfort to someone, or even making them feel unsafe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 05:55 AM
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Oh God... It's becoming self-aware...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 05:51 AM
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Yes I did, link bot. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 05:44 AM
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A lot of times people on subs like r/relationships are afraid of making judgement calls on new partners when learning about things they've done because it's all "in the past". Things like previous infidelities, that kind of thing. An occasional occurrence on subs like that seem to be guys that are blindsided when their partners do things that they did previously, or their pasts happen to adversely affect the present. Girlfriends cheating with their ex's, lying to them and taking advantage of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 05:38 AM
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All right. I can assure you that people who take engineering course loads are very studious. They also simply have no time to do other peoples work, because they barely have time to do their own. Many of the girls in my classes were the top students.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 04:25 AM
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Well, you made a claim that insinuated that girls in engineering don't do their own work. As an engineering student, I can say that's untrue. What makes you think they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 04:14 AM
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Niiiiiiice dude. Edit: /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 03:58 AM
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I disagree about the "creepy" thing. It has a meaning, it's just that it's variable depending on the instance, and it's also used as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 06:29 PM
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Prior to reading TRP, I never gave any thought to how men and women interact together, and through going back and forth between TBP and TRP I think it gave me a healthy way of looking at relationships. Don't put people on pedestals Don't make excuses for not having what you want Make sure someone is with you for the reasons you want them to be with you for Don't ignore someone's past for political correctness's sake Find ways to make yourself feel confident There's a few more, but lists are anno…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:22 PM
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After watching "Real Time" I knew what to expect from Bill. I watched it more as a comedic movie than as a serious documentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:09 PM
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My main complaint is the moderating practice itself that I think is/was harmful to this sub; specifically the practice of (from what I could tell) simply deleting threads because they were amassing a lot of reports. I strongly agree. I was given no explanation When it comes to banning and deletion, I'll have a talk with the mods tomorrow about citing reasons then. It seems like good mod etiquette. Teething issues You'll find this sub has a lot of those. New mods, very new sub type (its specifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:28 AM
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Then, for no reason at all, I come along and reverse everything you just did. I'ma be completely honest with you here samsa... that's how it feels most of the time I see you, soulcake, or dana in the modmail. I want you to understand though, that from Purple's perspective it probably looked like jerking/trolling. I'm sorry for the genuine discussion material lost. But fine. I'll just say that, despite not being the one to delete anything, I'll be careful when modding. I'm sure everyone else will…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:00 AM
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Ah, see, now we can actually be nice to each other now that at least a tiny compromise was made! Ah snark, nice one. I've been on TBP a lot and picked up a few things. Alternatively, you could just accept that you severely overreacted, broke the rules of your own sub, and are now trying to reframe the situation to make it look like I am also at fault by misrepresenting the comments I made in the OP. I'll admit I broke the rules, sure. In fact, I should probably go back and delete those comments …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 02:36 AM
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We actually are looking into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 02:14 AM
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My last comment didn't insult you. They were light-hearted jabs at a few of the comments you made. Clearly I've gotten under your skin, and we aren't even discussing things that I've done. Take a minute to compose yourself, then maybe we can restart this conversation calmly, where we can both admit to having done something wrong and try to make something constructive come from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 01:51 AM
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The problem is that you're saying that criticism is allowed but me saying that you've fucked up is suddenly not allowed. Ok, where did I say that? I said changing your tone would be helpful. It's unhelpful and aggressive. We'll take what you say under consideration if you don't treat us poorly, and saying "You done fucked up" is snarky and disrespectful. Which is exactly what I did No, you created a meta post that was aggressive and disrespectful, and also showed that you hadn't asked Purple fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 12:00 AM
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I wasn't the one doing the deleting, so consider my reasons given "guesses" as to why the thread was nuked. No criticism of mod actions allowed? You can absolutely criticize, but the tone needs a change. "You done fucked up" is disrespectful, and after putting in a full day, coming home to that is frustrating. Deal with it for weeks and it builds. We're tired of it. I snapped at you, yes, but I'm returning the disrespect I feel we're getting, and does it not show just how difficult it can be to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 10:15 PM
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In the future I'll try to make sure deleted comments know why they're deleted. It's good mod etiquette, I agree. You can be upset, but even if we had updated the rules to cover "going off topic" or something of that nature, we'd be accused of moving goal posts or changing rules frivolously. We're in a no-win situation where if we do delete something people get mad and use it as an example of bias and poor modding, and if we don't delete something people still get mad and use it as an example of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 08:52 PM
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Extremes are attracted here often. Dana was warned and had her comments deleted ad naseum, like many other users. We don't like shutting down conversations and don't like banning, so we give chances when we can. We also try to be forgiving. Unfortunately, everyone has ideas about how this sub should be run, and everyone gets offended at everything, making disussion difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 07:54 PM
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Admittedly, I've had a rough day so the tough words came out... roughly. Replying to a post saying that we mods need to get our shit together at 1 am isn't conducive to a happy attitude. I called people bitchy because honestly they are. No one seems to have conflict management skills, and everyone complains about each other. Rudeness abounds. It's frustrating. Why not have a discussion about what concerns people and how we can come up with rules that work? Believe me, we've tried. The first thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 06:57 PM
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We delete what gets reported, if we think it deserves it, or if we find comments on our own that need deletion. With our schedules we can't mod as effectively, so we rely on the community for help in pointing out what needs to go. Which makes it seem like the mods are biased to blue pill That's funny... we can point to many BP users saying the opposite. Also, danabanana is gone. She left the sub on her own accord. Nobody knows what is or isn't allowed, we can't seem to just have a free interacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 06:06 PM
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From what I understand, the thread was attracting trolls and was becoming a nuisance. I don't even know what you're talking about here. How does this relate to my post? Maybe because your whole post is a whiney, accusatory tantrum? Because you're telling us what we need to do, because our actions don't fit what you'd like to happen? This was the first time in my memory that a nuking happened, and it was needed to keep the thread from devolving into jerk-off puns. I don't intend to nuke comments …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 04:56 PM
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You done fucked up here, mods. Oh I'm sorry. I forgot that we needed to be on call at all times and had to constantly preen and get your approval on decisions. Look, we do what we can to keep shit flowing smoothly. I support that nuking. It was needed. I'm sorry if that wasnt pre-warned in the rules, but we cant think of every thing. We've had to institute new rules enough around here to keep you guys from bitching each other into oblivion. Seriously, how hard is it to not be a dick? Long story …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 06:57 AM
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I actually laughed at this. The totally unphased reaction he has when everyone else is scrambling around makes it perfect.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/14 09:02 PM
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According to an above post, he broke his back. That's a good excuse in my opinion.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/14 06:12 AM
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Why the hell would you tell us to be ourselves when you clearly don’t like nor will you find interest in who some of us are? I see a lot of hate for the "be yourself" line on TRP too. It looks like both genders get it and everyone hates it. I didn't realize how much of a half-truth it was until I thought about it, so I get why people get pissed when it's used.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/14 05:08 PM
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Reword this without the slurs and you can have it un-deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 06:09 AM
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Everyone has limits, and those limits are different for everyone, which is why I think this topic is friggin' stupid. Men have different preferences from guy to guy. The idea that a small minority of men can not only pretend to speak for the preferences of all men, but can claim that women who go against their preferences are somehow "giving men the finger" or "rejecting their femininity" is just fucking stupid. There's no other way to put that. It's just ridiculous on a scale that doesn't deser…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 08:38 PM
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Boyfriend here. Short of her dying it pink and putting it into a Mohawk, why would I care at all what she does with her hair? She looks good with it both long and short. I don't care how long she keeps it cut like that either. It's hardly like her hair length is some kind of trap. It's certainly not something she can "lock me down" with either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 07:24 PM
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That's a detailed way of putting it that I wouldn't have been able to come up with myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 05:49 PM
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I read TRP pretty much every day. I know what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 03:24 PM
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I should have added a /s to that.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 07:21 PM
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I'm on my phone and busy during the day. I just looked through and made a quick comment. I can come back and carry a conversation if you're dying for my opinion though.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 07:11 PM
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When you're discussing truth and evolution, using the right terms are probably best. It's petty, but it just bugs me calling what he wrote out a theory.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 05:27 PM
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't This sentiment seems to be shared rather often by TBP as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 02:50 PM
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TRP is what happens when guys who have struggled all their lives to get (or keep) relationships with women come together and do what nerdy guys do best: analyze trends and gather data. This would be a "field report", and after a time men figured out that women liked confident, attractive behaviors, and labeled that "alpha", and alpha behaviors became the goal. So this became a grouping of ideas about how to emulate those behaviors, how to avoid unattractive behaviors, and how mentally reduce wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 02:33 PM
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It's not a "theory". Theory implies research and proof.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 01:53 PM
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Sure. Until that time I'll reserve judgment on the matter because biology is a complex little fucker, and any conclusions reached before lots of data and experiments have been done by real scientists are probably not correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 02:07 AM
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Well certainly some traits aid in survival. But some don't do much of anything really. Not everything has a purpose, like the list of things I gave you earlier, and some traits that develop are entirely random but don't kill off the creature, so they're just... there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 02:00 AM
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Actually, not everything about us had a purpose. Evolution has no goal and no design. What traits a creature keeps and what it discards is based solely on what creatures survive. The appendix, coccyx, wisdom teeth, and body hair are examples of more or less purposeless things humans have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 11:39 PM
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They are? Why do you say that?
/r/TheRedPill13/01/14 12:51 AM
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I'm your age, and I'd be terrified if I was having a kid right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/14 07:31 AM
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Nope. I'm a youngin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/14 04:19 AM
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Ah. It would be so much easier if I could just see a damn list of RP beliefs or something.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 05:52 PM
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So it is a cornerstone, but you don't use it as much? I mean... it's still men doing the generalization here.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 05:37 PM
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Isn't generalizing a cornerstone of TRP?
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 05:28 PM
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Why is this speculation not a good idea? Speculation may lead to hypothesis. It fits the available facts, though I freely admit I have my doubts. Let me clarify: speculation is totally OK. You're allowed your hypothesis. It's when you use that hypothesis to back up opinions or espouse that hypothesis as truthful that you need to bring data and proof to the table. When you have top-of-all-time posts like this proclaiming certain things as fact, then you'll run into problems if they aren't backed …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 10:42 PM
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That's not a compelling explanation to me because of the very wide disparity in divorce initiation It was one possible explanation. You'd hardly expect to see one reason that explains something, especially when it's as complicated as human relationships. I've searched for a compelling explanation to the phenomenon of female 66-70% divorce initiation, and have found nothing that really satisfies me. Possibly because no one knows the true cause yet, so speculation about the sexes loving differentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 09:39 PM
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They aren't from each gender's point of view, though, they're both from the man's point of view. True. Each one had a different gender doing the complaining, though. I didn't find an example of a woman complaining about a similar topic. I've never heard this complaint (either a bf not doing sexual or not doing romantic things he did with exes) from a woman before and I'd be interested in the thought processes behind it. I'm interested as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 09:19 PM
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We know men are slightly more likely to cheat in a marriage, but women are vastly more likely to be the one that initiates a divorce. It's entirely possible that due to the increased likelyhood of men to cheat, women are more likely to divorce them. Without any other data, this statement: if there is not a difference in how women love, what would be a better explanation for the phenomenon of women choosing divorce so often. Seems to jump to conclusions. All you know is one data point, one fact. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 09:17 PM
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You do realize that TRP attracts the very kind of man that has had these experiences in the first place, right? There's a bit of confirmation bias in your statement, because the limited, similar population of TRP can't speak for everyone or even a majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 06:20 PM
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they should be plotting to sleep with more of them. If they saw a good-looking feminist and were willing to put up with them, I'm sure they would. The thing is that the general consensus on that sub is that feminists aren't worth sleeping with, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 06:23 AM
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Thanks! Given how often I switch between the blue, purple, and red pill subs, it's hard not to feel overwhelmed sometimes, so my flair is kind of a nod to that frustrated feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 06:05 AM
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It would make more sense to simply sleep with feminist. Not shun them, or call them ugly. I think some RPers think that it's not even worth it to try, as their views annoy them so much. Others probably would try just to say they could. I'm sure most RPers wouldn't mind sleeping with an attractive feminist. Feminist is purely about empowering women. I think we should not misconstrue that notion. When I'm talking about feminism in my above comment, I'm using "feminism" as TRP sees it. They see fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 06:03 AM
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WARNING- NOT A PART OF TRP. THIS IS MY OUTSIDERS OPINION I find TRP to be an ideology (i'm not sure what you'd term it, so I'll go with "ideology") with a sexually conservative tone. Not just sexually conservative either; often you'll see socially conservative narratives on their sub. They generally prefer a woman who conforms to traditional gender roles and who has a low sexual partner count. Feminism, on the other hand, is much more liberal. In the spirit of being "equal" with a man, many femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 05:38 AM
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I've seen several RP posts that claim that women and men love fundamentally differently. It's in the sidebar. I'm curious as to how each gender loves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 05:16 AM
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Not a BPer, but a mod here. Equality in relationships varies depending on what you define as "equal". Personally, I find the concept of equality in a relationship to be that both partners get a say in what goes on in the house, from chores to finances. An equal partnership is one capable of communication and compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 02:30 AM
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We are not a democracy. We're a republic. Not in contention with me. I know this. By democratic I meant equal: "favoring or characterized by social equality; egalitarian". You know, after this, I had a long series of responses, using your quotes and trying to counter points. But then I realized that I'm not really sure where all of this is coming from, and I deleted all of it because I'd be arguing points I never made. I made a comment about feminism being "overthrown" and how ridiculous the thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 10:25 AM
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I'm stuck in an airport. I'll make a separate comment replying when I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 03:23 AM
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What do you think the "redefined" concepts of liberty and equality are?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 01:39 AM
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American culture has always been a balancing act of freedoms and rights. Liberty and equality are things the US holds very dearly, but they are often not easy to be faithful to simultaneously. Democracy and feminism are attempts at equality and fair representation. Neither are perfect, but both are necessary if equality is something we hold dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 01:04 AM
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To me it sounds like impotent posturing. I think TRP would find a world where feminism didn't exist wouldn't be nearly as free or democratic as the one we have now, and despite complaints, that our current system is pretty damn good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 11:12 PM
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Most scientists are Beta/Omega. Quick question. Given that most RP users will readily admit to having problems with women in the past/being beta, why are scientists less qualified to discuss these things than TRP? Both are betas, so why are people sitting behind computer screens better at discerning the truth than people in lab coats?
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 10:49 PM
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Can you actually major in Women's Studies solely? At my college it's not a stand-alone major. You need to double major in order to graduate.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 06:01 PM
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So did another user. Apparently I write like a girl. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 06:22 AM
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Why is that surprising?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 06:14 AM
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Just because you don't like what's written within it, doesn't mean the attacking doesn't exist. I'm saying that linking examples of say, rape apology, and being disgusted by it is entirely understandable. Men and women are responsible for the words they say and type, and oftentimes the words on TRP are pretty easy to be disgusted by. Absolutely ridiculous that you'd say something like that. Being on my phone it's hard to go back and look a what I wrote. TRP does get it's position attacked freque…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 05:09 PM
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Have you seen the countless threads and comments around reddit bashing TRP If I can copy and paste things directly from TRP showing that shitty things are said there, it's hardly attacking to claim that shitty things are said on the sub. I'm on my phone and here's a few things I can find within minutes: From /u/SS4james Give her an ultimatum to be your nasty little sex slave who'll do any depraved act you tell her to, or dump her ass and move on to someone better. From /u/trplurker Your just now…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 08:01 AM
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And what part of "sexual strategy is immoral" don't you understand? Isn't the common RP stance that it is "amoral"? I think that's a typo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 07:08 AM
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Seriously, half the things on TRP are outright ridiculous just by the title now. As of Today, I Hate My Girlfriend Girl Lies About Getting Raped, her boyfriend murders 2 people and goes to jail for life It's a Mans World, and it always will be
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 06:40 AM
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I'd be running through plans to contact a lawyer before she finished the damn story. Sheesh. That's just awful.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/13 04:16 AM
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Did I say I think women are evil? No. Did I say I treat them like they are? I didn't say you said that. I simply said women aren't evil. I'm not jumping to conclusions. I'm simply arguing that the typical RP "angry" reaction is immature and unnecessary. As far as me jumping to conclusions about your positions... I don't really have to do that. You state your positions. When you grow up thinking women can do no wrong, finally acknowledging all the injustice you've faced wasn't your fault damns wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 09:54 PM
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I don't doubt it. Because some people never really stop making excuses, they just try new ones. Women are not evil, nor is treating them like they are a valid avenue towards becoming a normal human being. Women and society are not the source of your issues with girls. The common denominator is you. Edit: Since Redpillers like comedians so much, let me introduce you to a favorite of mine: Ron White
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 07:40 PM
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You don't know what it's like I lived and live every waking moment of my life as a skinny, dorky nerd. Hell, my top rated comment of all time on Reddit is a Star Wars joke! I was bad at talking to girls I was attracted to (but not the ones I wasn't attracted to), and in my head I had all of the excuses: nice guys don't get anywhere, yadda yadda yadda. I was just one more kid who put girls on a mental pedestal. I've always been good with people, but never with women because I had EXACTLY that men…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 07:21 PM
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When you grow up thinking women can do no wrong Seeing that women can do wrong is regarding them as being human beings. If Redpillers become angry after realizing that women are people... wow. finally acknowledging all the injustice you've faced wasn't your fault damns women pretty harshly in your mind Injustices? Please. If guys aren't getting laid or are being taken advantage of or being looked over and mocked, it's not an entire gender's fault, and maybe a significant portion of the "blame" d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 09:54 AM
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This sub is pretty much dedicated to having sex with women, so I assumed it was a bad example. Also, it's not that some Spartans did it; IIRC it was the culture to do so.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 10:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure the men fucked other men in that society.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 04:15 PM
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Researchers looked at a study from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health that followed nearly 8,000 young women from adolescence onward, for 14 years, tracking all sorts of information about their lives, their beliefs, and their reproductive histories. If the women in the study reported having gotten pregnant before reporting having had sexual intercourse, they were counted. Out of 5,340 who reported a pregnancy, 45 claimed to be pregnant without admitting, to researchers at least…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 05:16 AM
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Good work!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 04:59 AM
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I have a hard time imagining that show being named anything as menacing as "Shark Tank" or "Dragons Den".
/r/TheRedPill16/12/13 05:03 AM
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Is this basically a British version of "Shark Tank"?
/r/TheRedPill15/12/13 09:53 PM
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I'm not even a Redpiller and I've always thought of women as the more emotional sex. And it had nothing to do with BC. Also, I get a sense of bitterness from the woman. She's had to put up with a lot of sideeffects, so apparently that means that men should have to as well. You know, because fairness and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 05:25 AM
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Well it sounds like they're Canadians. The cop even apologized. They don't like getting forceful.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 05:58 PM
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But that triangle gets banged pretty hard I bet.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/13 01:01 PM
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Then I suppose it's clear that we were operating under different definitions of the word "honor", and what you said about honor being a more subjective thing is clearer to me now. Though, I do have an objection: your version of honor sounds closer to "obedience" than "integrity". By your version, dogs, cats, goats, and whales can be honorable through training.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 11:44 PM
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I have related the two scenarios because you want to make honor into something it's not. Honor works with guidelines, edicts. Unless you have a recognized and documented list of edicts that are universal that someone fails to fulfill (thus, dishonorable), you will inevitably fall into a personal frame. Then I fail to see how women lack honor, since there aren't a list of universal edicts that they fail to fulfill. I've been operating under the impression that "honor" meant integrity, honesty, du…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 11:20 PM
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Would you term keeping excess funds for yourself to be dishonor? There's a difference in not feeling a duty towards suffering that you had absolutely nothing to do with and not feeling duty towards something that was partly your fault. The two things aren't comparable. Also, we're clearly operating under slightly different definitions of "selfish". If I implied that doing something for yourself was wrong, then I take that back. Selfishness becomes immoral when your personal gain takes precedence…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 10:28 PM
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If that's how you want to view it, but you are speaking with regard to how you think and feel personally. It's an interpretation I don't think so. I was referencing a dictionary for the definition, taking it as literally as possible so I wouldn't inject my own feelings into it. Helping someone cheat is pretty objectively a selfish act; you're doing something that will hurt someone else very badly for your own personal gain. That is basically an antonym for "honorable"; honor is the opposite of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 08:26 PM
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I think the person that is actually in the relationship and cheats has significantly less honor than the single person they cheat with. I agree, but my point was that helping someone cheat was dishonorable, not that it's more dishonorable than the cheating itself. If someone is going to cheat, they will find a way. This I agree with, but I also find the "then why not make it with me?" mentality to be dishonorable. There will always be people who do shady things, but that's no excuse to do it you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 08:01 PM
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I find that helping someone "making choices to help someone betray another person" carries with it a certain amount of dishonor. Honor: 3 : performed or accompanied with marks of honor or respect 4 a : attesting to creditable conduct b : consistent with an untarnished reputation <an honorable withdrawal> 5 : characterized by integrity : guided by a high sense of honor and duty There doesn't seem to me to be any way that helping someone cheat for personal benefit, knowing it will hurt someone els…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 07:41 PM
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Doesn't that kind of purposeful harm show a lack of honor?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 05:18 PM
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I forgot Carlton manned up every now and then on that show.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/13 06:44 AM
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they aren't hurting anyone directly by having sex. Even if I abandon this point, the amount of time, effort, money, and emotion put into someone's SO is the deciding factor in my book. What amounts to years of getting to know someone, trusting them, providing love, support, and many other things for them is wasted when one partner decides to cheat. They haven't just cheated their way out of a relationship: they've cheated someone out of their time, money, trust, and emotions. They've cheated som…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 06:02 AM
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This isn't a popularity contest. Lots of people also love my contributions, too. I often enjoy your contributions as well. I find them to be well-evidenced and frequently thorough. This is all still the wrong emphasis. You're trying to force the "wrong" person to be "right." What we want to emphasize is the process. Improve a debate sub by holding the debate arguments to high standards of substance/sincerity, not by demonizing the "wrong" conclusions. I do want to hold those standards, and I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 05:48 AM
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The way I see it, the mistress/male lover has no promise to the other person's SO. In a relationship, a promise is made that both people will remain monogamous. This promise requires a great deal of trust and love, and is often a part of the basis of the relationship. That bond is a big deal, as you can no doubt see from the devastation of someone who has had that bond broken. Now, the mistress has no such bond. All they did was offer something. It's certainly shady and immoral, but it's not equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 05:36 AM
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Just because someone thinks I've misinterpreted does not entitle them to whine--they must instead offer substantive reasons that my interpretation is wrong, so that we can engage those arguments. That's desirable. That's debate. Which I agreed with: Obviously, they'll need to explain how they're being misinterpreted So we're not in disagreement. And I say they're mistaken in thinking I've misinterpreted. I haven't read through your discussions. Obviously this seems to be some kind of spiral of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 05:20 AM
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If we're debating an interpretation, you're not entitled to expect every interpretation will be right. Well, it depends on what is being interpreted. For something subjective, you'd be right. But what I'm talking about is the interpretation of another person's comments. Thats what people are complaining about. That's why people like RPS say they don't want to debate you: they think you're misinterpreting their comments. A lot. I think part of a debate is that there's an assumption that you'll de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 04:43 AM
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There seems to be a consistent factor in why people get frustrated on this sub, and that's the misinterpretation of another user's points. I'm all ears for how to reduce the number of misinterpretations, but for now even with a different structure for how posts are submitted, comments can still be take out of context and misinterpreted. Despite my wanting this problem to go away, I don't know how to help keep it from happening. I don't want to ban users for misinterpretation, because that happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 04:14 AM
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Damn, soulcakeduck. Concise and potent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 01:48 AM
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So you're mad that users are disagreeing? I mean... that's the point of the sub. And if they make a mistake with their comment, a RPer should point it out to further the debate. This is how it works. It's messy and unpleasant at times, but that's how you sift through each other's ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:20 PM
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This sounds more like an issue with a particular user (albeit and active, vocal one) than with the sub as a whole. If you don't want to discuss rape with soulcakeduck, then don't engage him/her. We won't ban soulcakeduck unless they become an agitator and throw insults around. Obviously, soulcakeduck thinks that rape is a topic that is very relevant to discuss. Looking through TBP's posts, a lot of their issues with TRP stem from what they see as TRP's lack of respect for sexual consent. So it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:06 PM
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Well, I encourage you to make a post that describes the "spirit" of TRP, but I think you're missing why Blue Pillers get caught up on the details. It's because they're important. Debates are often detail-oriented. Also, what you're essentially saying is that "the people I debate with aren't good enough at debating for my tastes". Which means either one of two things: either people from TBP are debating correctly and you simply don't like that TBPers are debating and questioning you harshly on wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:46 PM
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In fairness, it's extremely easy to see how some RP articles can be taken out of context in that manner. I'm sure I can go to the sidebar right now and find word-for-word quotes that sound like rape apologetics or assertions of women's intellectual/emotional/moral/romantic/general inferiority. In a debate setting, if that's brought up as part of a point, I don't see what you want me to do about it. It's part of the RP philosophy, and if it's defensible by saying it's being taken out of context t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:25 PM
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That's fair, but I will say this: I think pointing out things from TRP's sidebar is fair game. The sidebar is basically the "accepted canon" for a sub, so that should be allowed to be addressed. So, if the assertion comes from the sidebar, I'll allow that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 04:58 PM
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This is a good idea. The previous issues with this sub generally have been a result of how the debates were formatted, and since I've never seen a sub like this, the mods had very little idea how to keep it as impartial as possible. We knew that there would be issues and that we'd get accused of favoritism and that there would be more people from TBP than TRP commenting, but we just didn't know how to keep those factors in check so the debate wouldn't suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 04:42 PM
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I replied to that comment. I still am having a hard time believing that most of that thread is full of people who think it's cool. Why? Why is that cool?
/r/TheRedPill04/12/13 07:30 PM
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However, if you do find that the bedroom becomes a bit stale, you have some new information to draw on. I have no words to describe the ridiculousness of this.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/13 07:28 PM
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How is it that this wasn't broken up? That entire line of men has some form of paint covering them, and they were getting spit on and pushed from the look of it. A bunch of topless women assaulting people, lighting things on fire, and committing vandalism should have warranted some kind of police intervention, right?
/r/TheRedPill04/12/13 03:10 AM
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I believe women should be sexually cautious (have low partner counts) That first part probably gets you a lot of hate. Lots of people would take this as you passing judgement or claiming that what they're doing is wrong (taking it personally). men and women are fundamentally different This part probably also gets you a lot of hate as well. but I believe the if a woman wants to be in the military/become a firefighter or join the police force - she should have to qualify under the MALE standards. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 10:05 PM
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But you don't know their past actions or the reason for those actions. This is why I said talking to your partner was probably the best option. Maybe they thought casual sex was fun, but then it got boring and they wanted something more. This is entirely possible, and an entirely acceptable answer. But for someone who values having a partner who did not do that, it's something they deserve to know. I'm not advocating lying to a partner about your past, I just think knowing the number of partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 09:00 PM
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I think a person's past actions says quite a lot about how they feel on a certain topic. Your past is also something you should probably share with your partner, given that openness and honesty are usually required for a relationship to succeed. That comes from conversation about how one view sex Sure, you can have that conversation. In fact, that's probably the best way to do it. Asking what they think of sex is probably a very good idea. But you're still using that as a way of figuring out if …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 08:37 PM
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You're right it was ambiguous. Well, let's say that someone has 10 sexual partners by age 20. Depending on your upbringing and whatnot, you'll approach this differently. For some, 10 partners isn't that big of a deal. As far as casual sex goes, it probably isn't that hard to do. But if you are someone who thinks of sex as belonging in a relationship, that number would put you off. It either means that the person has had 10 relationships involving sex fail, or that they have sex outside of relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 08:24 PM
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A person's sexual past says really only one thing: how they approach sex. For some, that's a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 08:19 PM
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I'd like to hear about the dynamics you're talking about. I think a lot of BP users get angry at TRP's ideas about relationships because a lot of what goes on in TRP subs sounds pretty nasty. But I'd like to hear it from you; what are the "dynamics" of your relationship that anger people?.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 08:02 PM
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I think there are different sexual cultures depending on the time and place. Going back before the 80's to the 60's I'm sure you'll find some places had a very liberal sexual atmosphere (free love duuuuude) and some retained their conservative values. I don't think the present is much different; I'm from Texas, and while we have our fair share of sex here oftentimes it's taken seriously (as in not done casually very often) and done within LTR's (or not at all), so clearly not every place is cove…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 07:38 PM
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Though, honestly, I don't think there will ever be a truly "equal" situation. There will always be cases of preference and whatnot. Humans tend to stick to their "in crowd", so any field that has all men or all women will always have a hard time getting the other gender involved. Not to say we shouldn't try or anything. I'm just saying that by your definition with alpha, I doubt the idea of the "patriarchy" is going to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 02:34 AM
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I didn't say an equal gender split. Just equal power, opportunity, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 02:26 AM
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I think that all that is left of the patriarchy to complain about are attitudes and various traditions; the rest seem to have disappeared or are disappearing. For the traditions, examples are taking the man's last name at marriage, that sort of thing. The attitudes are more difficult to quantify or prove and happen on a more individual basis, and honestly, like racism or bigotry, I don't think they'll ever fully go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 11:30 PM
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There are women who have and are doing jobs like that. Not as many as men, but they're there. Personally I think it's not quantity but quality; as long as women are being represented in things that affect them the number of men vs women isn't that big a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 11:09 PM
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Well obviously we can't force things like Congress to be exactly half male and half female, nor can we force people to vote in equal numbers. All we can do is make sure that each gender has equal opportunity to choose. Personally I think that some professions will always be dominated by one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 11:03 PM
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Men are agents, women are objects. Please elaborate. Are you saying women don't get a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 09:22 PM
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I'd wager it stops being a patriarchy once the political powers of the genders are about equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 09:19 PM
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What do you define as treating someone "like a child"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 06:03 PM
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Yep. In practice I don't think that having a high partner count really holds that much appeal, man or woman. I was just making the comment that if a man is getting a ton of sex, there's probably some exceptional quality about him, whereas a woman can get frequent sex much more easily. Now that I think of it, that's just proof that men are easy, making us the sluts...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 02:00 PM
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TRP is of the opinion that since sex is easy for a woman to obtain and harder for a man that a man sleeping around is something of an achievement or a show of high value. I actually agree with the point that it's much easier for a girl to get sex than a man, and that a man that's successful at having casual sex frequently probably does seem exceptionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 11:38 PM
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I'll have a chat with him. I'm sure he'll be relieved to hear that he won't have to police gender disagreements because someone had some hurt feelings one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 12:00 AM
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Well then I learned something today. But here's the deal: I won't delete your comments for misgendering someone else because that's an honest mistake to make due to the faceless nature of Reddit(unless you make it blatantly obvious you're just trolling). I just ask that you try to get it right. I deleted your "thon" post because I assumed you were trying to be sarcastic. I really really don't want to be a gender police on this sub. I won't force other users to use "thon", nor will I delete your …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:49 PM
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I was under the assumption that was sarcasm. What gender does "thon" imply?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:41 PM
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Rule 2. Mod voice. You get the picture. Play nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:37 PM
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Thanks. Glad to know that my rantings weren't altogether unbearable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:29 PM
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For a further example, /r/becomeaman[1] . What's up with THAT, I ask you? Unfortunately, our culture has defined masculinity as almost entirely good, useful things that are difficult to emulate. An ideal masculine man is to be strong, emotionally secure, successful, skillfull, brave, aggressive, and good at not only attaining women but pleasing them as well. Honestly that's a fucking exhausing list, and if you complain about it you're less masculine. That's why that sub exists- while they, in my…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:17 PM
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Well that would explain a great deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 05:40 AM
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So, let me get this straight: you're genuinely against equality between the sexes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 04:55 AM
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All right dana, let's see if I can tackle this. The definition of feminism you gave is the dictionary definition. It's the goal of feminism. It's purpose. If anyone is representing that word as something other than it's definition, then they're using the word incorrectly. The definitions you gave to Racism and Nazism are just your exaggerated definitions made in an attempt to make a point. Unfortunately for your point, the two aren't comparable. The actual accepted definition of a word isn't com…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 04:03 AM
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Of course. That's why we made the sub. But cherry picking one quote that's an example of many things rolled into one doesn't set a good tone for discussing one thing. Your other submission is better, as it is the opinion of a RP-endorsed contributor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 03:36 AM
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Basically, what alphabetmod said. This quote has a ton of baggage in it besides it describing the part of TRP philosophy you're trying to discuss/refute and I'm sure that a lot of RPers won't be too thrilled to join a conversation where they're represented by this quote from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 03:02 AM
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This isn't the best quote to be using to illustrate the point. It carries with it a lot more baggage than just "women want alphas, and here's why", and it's very emotionally and verbally charged. I won't remove it, but I think you'll get better results if you chose another way of asking the question without picking a controversial statement to slap with it. Honestly if you wanted an actual discussion you could have just left the title and deleted everything but the last line and the tone would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 02:36 AM
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Ok so I got it right. Just out of curiosity, what makes a man's MMV different than a woman's in regards to sex? Why wouldn't more sex make a man less desirable? When it comes to marriage, is a man's MMV just one of those things with TRP where it's "I'm not trying to attract men so it doesn't warrant talking about" things?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 01:49 AM
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If I'm wrong someone should correct me, but I think according to TRP a woman's SMV is almost entirely looks-based. If she has a lot of partners, she isn't good long-term relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 12:38 AM
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I don't think either side gets to lay claim to masculinity or femininity or get to define what it is or isn't, but I think both genders feel enormous pressure to conform to what their peers consider "masculine" or "feminine".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 11:55 PM
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I don't know exactly why, but your ability to stay on-topic and argue only one point impressed me, so I thought I'd say good work!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 09:22 PM
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Well, perhaps it was me just trying to impose consistency on TRP's philosophy. It becomes blatantly wrong any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/13 03:48 AM
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I don't believe men "respect" women at all As a man, I can tell you this is not true. I respect women in the same way I respect men: when they earn it. I won't like them if they act entitled to my respect in the same way I won't like a man that does it. As an addition, the things that attract me aren't the things that I respect in a woman necessarily, and I think that's where this comes from: women have eschewed this without a by-your-leave from men and think men now respect them for masculine v…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 07:45 PM
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I've always read it as TRP saying that women don't have these traits because they've never had to/found them to be beneficial. They treat it as a moral issue because women should have "loyalty, truth, justice", etc., but because women either aren't expected to show them (they get a "pussy pass"), or they actually have incentive to not strive for these traits they don't have them. I think TRP is saying that society makes women selfish by placing such a high value on them for just being women and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 07:04 PM
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Well, before the edit, it was just the title. There was no material to have a discussion about; it would have just been an anti-TRP circle-jerk. I don't want that for this sub. That's what TBP is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 08:33 PM
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This isn't TBP. If you'd like to complain about how TRP treated you take it there. If you have a genuine discussion topic it would be welcome, but this doesn't belong on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 07:48 PM
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Your experience conflicts with mine. I've known mothers like that, but most I've known are putting a great deal of effort into things in and out of the home, and they're certainly not ungrateful whiners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 08:29 PM
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I'll take a look at this stuff when I can. Thanks for the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 08:27 PM
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Well, I can't argue any further, since I don't have much evidence to draw from. I don't know how much the average current mother does at home exactly, because I'm not one, nor do I know how much the average working father works, because I'm also not one of those. My argument was based on basically what's in the "job description" for a parent, and yes that job description does require that the stay-at-home parent actually do those things. So if most women who stay at home act like you say, then y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 08:07 PM
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When it comes to the 10-20% thing I'm still rather unconvinced. I have a friend that's into PUA stuff, and I have Christian virgin friends. I have a wide pool of people to draw from, and I still don't think that so few are getting so much of the sex. That's just my personal experience. When it comes to STD's I read somewhere that women are just biologically more prone to getting them, so it's not necessarily that they're sleeping around more. studies that show how women have sex sooner and more …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 07:59 PM
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Well then it seems we're discussing two different things. I'm coming from the perspective of the woman being a good parent and the man being a good worker. Both are difficult (albeit different) jobs that require a lot of time and commitment. You're coming from the perspective there being a lot of failing mothers. I'll agree with this: if a mom does not put her effort into her child, then yeah, the work won't be the same. If she does then the work becomes similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 07:22 PM
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I actually saw a video earlier today that touched on this; TRP is of the opinion that marriage is something that helped society function. "Betas" got a guaranteed mate due to marriage, which kept women from becoming part of an alpha's harem. This made men want to contribute to society, since they were getting something out of it, and that's what lead to modern society being so successful and technologically advanced; the participation of the beta males. So, if you look at if from TRP's perspecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 07:01 PM
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I see that "10-20%" number thrown around a lot and it's very difficult for me to take it seriously. Where does it come from? I mean, I'd understand it more if that percentage was the percentage of men who had sex with above "X" number of partners, but as it stands I don't see how that small a number of men dominate all sex and relationships. and either decided they were ok being stay-at-home moms or decided unanimously to be as career-focuses as men That's a little silly, asking for a unanimous …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 06:54 PM
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So, in other words... The survival of your child is independent of how much effort you put into it? No, not at all. It's just that since SIDS is a real possibility, a parent needs to be on alert for it. This also doesn't take into account all of the other responsibilities a parent has. checking on them' isn't going to prevent SIDS. It won't prevent it, but a baby that has stopped breathing can be revived if it's caught soon enough. Because all the stay at home mothers are at home sitting on thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 06:37 PM
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Actually, yeah. In a lot of ways, a stay at home parent is a huge job. If you're the parent of a small child, you have to be on alert 24/7. A baby/toddler is one of the most completely helpless things this planet has to offer. A baby can drown in an inch of water. In fact, a baby can die of nothing explainable at all. It's called Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. I know someone who had their child die in the middle of the night due to this. It's why as a parent you always have to make sure your kid …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 03:36 AM
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I don't even think that the current job distribution trends are due exclusively to traditional gender roles, but even if they were, all you would do by forcing a more even split is enforce a new set of gender roles: everyone has to make the numbers equal! Like you said, if we did that there would be a significant portion of people very upset with and/or unsuited for their jobs. It's ridiculous to me. More girls go to school for higher education now that boys do, so they have the choice of whethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 08:49 PM
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Why? Women should be free to make the choice of which profession they go into, whether it be low or high paying. Not every profession will balance out to a 50-50 split, so why insist it needs to be that way? If women are satisfied taking jobs that make less money... well, isn't that what feminism is about? Choice? Maybe these professions are populated more by one gender because that's the jobs that gender wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 07:32 PM
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This post was the reason I got banned from TRP. I disagreed with the consensus TRP presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/13 02:39 AM
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I think it works for some people, and there are conditions where it wouldn't work. For instance, your partner would probably need to be more invested in the relationship than you for dread game to work. I think it would work very well on people who were insecure or co-dependent. It would just be a dickish thing to do. Would (red pill?) men stick around if their partner bragged about the affairs they're having? Would confident women? I don't think so. It would take a very attached confident woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/13 01:27 AM
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I think this is a good example of gender bias. When I said: "I'm interested in knowing the cause of this, but I don't think it can be found with just the raw data given", I was interested in knowing the cause of the bias. That was the question asked: why is there a gender bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/13 01:16 AM
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There could be any number of reasons why this occurs. Since reasons weren't tested for, it's not particularly useful to speculate; any reason given for this would be opinion. But, since you wanted a discussion: The reason could be that faculty is older and therefore of a different mindset regarding women. It could be that they are selecting male managers because the sciences are dominated by men and they think that a man would make for a more comfortable manager for the rest of the students. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/13 10:20 PM
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I think media in general sticks to proven formulas and what will make them money. I'm sure you'll see the same trends in other forms of media as well, depending on who is consuming that media. So, conservative viewpoints will be shown on Fox because that's what will make them money. The same goes for movies and games; they give the people that see/play them what they want. I don't think there's any kind of sexism going on. Just marketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/13 10:06 PM
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While we can't eliminate every way of downvoting, we can make it more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/13 09:03 PM
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We as mods tried to eliminate downvotes. I'll make a post about it actually. Give me a moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/13 07:41 PM
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If you link some ill try my best to make it through an article. Personally, I think the reason people have negative opinions of PUA's are in some cases similar to why people don't like feminists (not a perfect comparison, but stick with me). At first, the message presented by both was better, but with each new "generation" more people joined and diluted the message. Then different ideas got introduced until the current version was almost unrecognizable from the first. Eventually, the face of eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/13 08:44 PM
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Oh c'mon... you can't deny that the whole PUA world has a strong overtone of "dumb bitch don't even know what she wants... so I'm gonna manipulate her onto my dick and then tell the internet world what a dumb slut she is". You can't get like... 2 lines into any Chateau Heartiste article without being bathed in it I think it depends. I know a guy who is an aspiring PUA. He's not a bad guy. He was hurt by a girl before and now he's just trying to get a satisfactory amount of sex in before he decid…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/13 08:13 PM
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How is it misogynistic? It certainly wouldn't be my preferred method of interaction, but I'm not gonna blame a guy for trying to find ways to get women to come home with him. That doesn't mean he hates women. It just means he likes sex. I fully believe in self-improvement (hitting the gym, getting interesting) as "game-enhancers" for both men and women. This is fine and is actually what a PUA would probably suggest doing. It's just that being in shape and "getting interesting" (which is vague at…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/13 10:25 PM
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I don't go on PUA forums, so what about them do you find misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/13 07:00 PM
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A lot of those people just want casual sex. As a man, it isn't as easy to obtain as it is for a woman, so that's why guys brag about it or feel proud of it. It's not that they don't like women (though some may not); it's that PUA's just want casual sex instead of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/13 07:00 PM
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Actually, we DID do that. You just have to have "use this subreddits style" checked for it to work. Which I don't think anyone will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/13 03:03 AM
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He's contributing a set of philosophies for the sub to discuss. I thanked him because we previously didnt have that, and it made discourse more difficult. Now we have something to go off of and discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/13 11:56 PM
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Thank you for posting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/13 01:49 PM
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I haven't been in my own home for more than a handful of minutes in 24 hours. It's been a busy couple of days. I've seen the post RPS made and decided to let it stay because he's bringing up a topic that he thinks is a genuine issue. It wasn't made to mock; he has made that point clear in comments before that post. Yours, however, is just mocking, even if there is an underlying bit of truth to it (that there has yet to be a clear picture of TRP philosophy on this sub). My reply to him still stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/13 01:22 PM
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If this bothers you, by all means make a post with TRP's philosophy in it. If you look at some of this sub's earliest posts, it was actually suggested from the beginning that RP tenants be brought onto this sub for discussion so there was a clear idea of what the discussion was about. Currently, many of this subs posts come from TRP's sidebar or whatever general topic is perceived as common to TRP. If you can hone the dialogue with a post like that, I'm sure the sub would benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/13 10:14 PM
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He sent me a message earlier today that somehow his account got deleted. I'll try to reinstate him when possible. Edit: I sent his alt a mod invite, so he should be back shortly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/13 09:03 PM
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There are only two people I have ever called "sluts" that I can remember. Both were men, and I definitely wouldn't be envious of a woman trying to start a relationship with either one. So while this post was a sarcastic turn-around, I agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/13 04:22 PM
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That's my understanding of what a slut is. I just didn't know if there was a different TRP definition. Also, I know that a lot of BPers dislike TRP's "slut shaming", and that seemed to be an issue that would have a place on this sub, hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/13 03:41 AM
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Well, what I meant with #1 was that one person's slut is normal to someone else. Is "slut" a more subjective bar within TRP (where each member has his own threshold for when he would call a girl slutty), or is it a label that is given to anyone that sleeps around outside of a relationship? The word "slut" is obviously pretty universally understood- it's a woman that is sexually promiscuous. But what "promiscuous" is varies depending on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/13 02:33 AM
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At the time, I think it was deleted because the mod that deleted it did think it broke the rules. I haven't spoken with him about it, so I don't know, but I'm positive that's the case. We're not here to spare feelings. What we ARE here to do is prevent loaded questions/topics from becoming the catalyst for a circle-jerk. If people don't want to discuss something, no one is forcing them. I and the other mods just don't want either side portrayed in an accusatory manner before the discussion even …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/13 12:15 AM
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True, but those are referring to kids, when hormones are flaring at their worst. Remember middle school? That's not how everyone acts all the time, thank God. People settle down a bit afterwards, and I think that men tend to be more physically aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/13 12:06 AM
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If an animal behavior isn't biological, that would mean that it's cultural, right? And if most mammals have "cultures" with males as the aggressors, and most civilizations throughout history have had men as the heads of affairs, doesn't that imply that males will naturally assume a more aggressive state, and that the culture reflects that, instead of the other way around? Obviously I could be wrong. I'm stating my observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 10:43 PM
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While I agree that correlation doesn't mean causation, 90% of murders being done by men is a pretty strong correlation. Also, as I said in another comment (with a source), makes in most mammalian species are the more aggressive, so it makes sense that men would be the more aggressive. I'm on my phone so I can source that, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 10:39 PM
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If by: te cultural association of testosterone and aggression. you mean that men are more likely to be more aggressive because they're expected to be and because that's how they are "allowed" to express themselves, I agree. To an extent. Let me copy a reply to someone else I just made: Oh, I absolutely think that there is a cultural effect, and while I don't think that testosterone on it's own causes violence and aggression, I do think it contributes. When you look at nature in general and not j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 04:42 PM
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Oh, I absolutely think that there is a cultural effect, and while I don't think that testosterone on it's own causes violence and aggression, I do think it contributes. When you look at nature in general and not just humans, you'll find that in mammals the male is often the more naturally aggressive gender (look under "gender"). So it's not a phenomenon limited to human culture; other species have this trend as well. So it can't be played off as entirely cultural if it's a trend in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 04:41 PM
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That's absolutely true. I suppose I shouldn't have stated it as a fact. But when looking at the statistics I see that 90% of murders are committed by men that seems to be a rather one-sided statistic. Given that testosterone is the "man" hormone and its presence usually correlates with being more aggressive (forgive me not having a source for this; I'm on my phone and it just seems like common sense) , it makes sense that men are more aggressive and violent. Also, as a man, I've noticed that my …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 04:04 PM
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime. There's some data. Men have more testosterone and are more aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 03:52 PM
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That's fair. I suppose I'm just talking from my experience among men; I can't really speak for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 05:27 AM
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I won't doubt there's a social component. I've noticed that with my friends, few of them will state emotions like sadness outright unless it has boiled over into despair-level sadness; it's more socially acceptable for men to show those feelings as anger. So clearly there's a social component. However, I do think that men use anger and violence more naturally than women do. I and many of my friend have discussed the benefits of using anger and how effective it is, and we usually use it as fuel i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 04:28 AM
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Naturally more emotional? Actually, no. I think both genders have strong emotional capabilities. I just think that men tend to show those emotions in more... "traditionally masculine" ways. I would say that women do plenty of emotional, seemingly out-of-control things as well, but men tend towards violence more often. I think that's a side-effect of the higher levels of testosterone. Basically, I think both genders are similarly emotional, but each tends to show those emotions in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 02:51 AM
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I understand your position. I suppose we prefer questions as submissions because they're more inclusive and less accusatory when starting a conversation. Looking back at your post, there wasn't necessarily anything wrong with it besides it coming across as abrasive. As a sub, we're trying to foster discussion between two other subs. The way we'd prefer to do that is by limiting the accusatory language. Of course, that will stifle the conversation to a degree. So there has to be a balance. And un…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 02:44 AM
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I agree, but I also think the reason men are more prone to violence is as much of a biological thing as a social one. Men are just more physically aggressive naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 02:13 AM
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Rule 4 says to state your questions neutrally, but it doesn't say you have to use questions as submissions. We obviously don't want to coerce users into making everything a question, nor do we want facts and data presented with a question mark at the end of the sentence. The enforcement of that rule shows as much; things without questions are left up because they're perfectly good contributions. I think we've been deleting plenty of comments that aren't questions. If you're referring to post's, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 02:07 AM
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I can assure you it's not our intention to "selectively enforce" any rules. We do, however, have to make judgement calls on what gets deleted and what can stay. There really isn't a specific criteria that can be made to spell out what will warrant a deletion; either we let everyone say whatever they want and don't do anything, or we do what we can to delete comments that don't contribute. Since the first option doesn't work, we're trying the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/13 01:47 AM
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As of a few minutes ago, this subreddit's style no longer includes downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/13 08:41 PM
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Thank you. abc already added it in. Hopefully that along with the new rules will help things a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/13 08:36 PM
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That's actually what I want to do, but I don't know how. I think that system would add greatly to this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/13 08:06 PM
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I've sent a message to an older mod than I for advice on how to fix this. I don't like it at all and want to change it; it stifles conversation, as I'm sure you no doubt already are aware. Hopefully I can have a resolution soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/13 07:58 PM
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I'm seriously considering doing just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/13 07:41 PM
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Either those guys are shooting themselves in the foot by sleeping around or they aren't sleeping around. Among the men looking for a girl who wouldn't like a "man slut" the ones that have had lots of partners didn't do themselves any favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/13 04:37 AM
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Then those men have a few options within TRP: Use TRP knowledge to better yourself, but don't sleep around Use TRP knowledge to sleep around with no intention of settling down Use TRP knowledge to sleep around and don't tell your future partner about it Not all men in TRP are adverse to marriage. Only some are. I think it would differ from man to man, but as someone who is not RP, these are just my opinions. An actual Redpillers could answer this better; this is just what I think would be the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/13 04:00 AM
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TRP is more about sexual strategy than about long-term relationships. I think a lot of TRP guys would agree with you on where to find a woman they actual find valuable, but they don't want to settle down yet. They want sex. Since their ideas are centered around the sexual market, it makes sense that they go to bars or clubs. They're the closest things you can find to an actual sexual marketplace without blatantly paying for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/13 11:23 PM
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I don't think this reply has much relevance to what I was saying; a society can (and does) value children without holding on to the mindset that sex is for children. I don't see the connection between enjoying sex as an act and abandoning children or no longer protecting them. What you gave me was an anecdotal example and made it seem like that example was indicative of how we treat children. It's not, it's just that sometimes the world isn't kind to people, and there's no age discrimination whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/13 02:22 AM
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Sorry for the delay. I'd like to see some evidence for this please. Evidence for me thinking that cat-calling or any other overt sexual activity is the result of pent up energy/aggression? Obviously I can't give evidence for my opinion, though I think it makes good sense. Or did you mean evidence for me saying that there will always be men that act like the lowest common denominator? Because I stand by that as well (even if I can't give evidence for it either). As long as there is a standard of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/13 12:01 AM
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Honestly, I think you are vastly, vastly overestimating the negative effects of people having sex with each other. The contraceptive mentality allows men to act like the lowest common denominator just because a sexually desirable woman walks by IF we eliminated the contraceptive mentality and put sex back into the context of being for both pleasurable and procreative purposes, much the same would have to posses the rapist as our previous example a decline in alcoholism a slight reduction in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/13 04:47 AM
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I wasn't saying there was a legitimate source for it. I was just offering my thoughts on how the word became what it is in TRP. It looks goofy to me; anytime I read a post with that in there I have to read it at least once more because it's tough to mentally make the definition switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/13 09:56 PM
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I think it's a redefining of the word specifically within TRP. Like how the word "bug" means something different in computer programming than in regular language. They probably needed a word to describe what they were trying to say, and that's the one they reached for. It's an incorrect way of using the word, but they've re-defined it as this within TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/13 07:37 PM
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the idea I'm trying to point to, I think, is that pregnancy should be the assumed outcome of intercourse, and not consequence-free sex as it is presently understood Ok I understand. I think this results from the success in birth control: the percent chance that conception will happen when using birth control responsibly is very very low, and I suppose that's where you got the "contraceptive mentality" phrase from. I am trying to say that the procreative purpose is all too-often ignored as an aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/13 06:52 PM
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While I don't agree with your conclusions, I understand what you're saying now. Personally, I think sex is for both pleasure and procreation, as they are both natural outcomes of the act. I think the issues occur when people do things irresponsibly in general (not just sex), and with sex I don't think anyone should do it until they are ready to be responsible about it. That's why I think "contraceptive mentality" isn't a good phrase for your opinion. It would be more accurate to say "sexual irre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/13 04:47 PM
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No. I was asking what the benefits of solipsism are, because I've seen TRP say there were benefits and I was curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/13 04:49 PM
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Ok well then I'll try to keep on-topic so that I don't derail the conversation. "Contraceptive mentality", right? Ok well then I'll stick on that. Where I think you got hedonism from contraception is this (feel free to correct me if I'm off the mark): Instead of being conscious that having wanton sex can result in societal drains, people have been lulled into a sense of sexual security by the presence of birth control, and in that environment they have had more promiscuous sex that could possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/13 06:00 AM
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To begin I think you're arguing in favor of hedonism on this one subject. Hedonism espouses the idea that pleasure is the highest good, and so the good life, is the one which obtains pleasure. Life is the quest for pleasure. Actually, she was just saying that having the pill gives women options they didn't have before, and it's been beneficial. Nowhere did she mention hedonism, directly or indirectly. What's worse is that the result of our unchained, and unconstrained desires isn't happiness. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/13 05:12 AM
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Mod here. We've received complaints about SpermJackalope already, and once I (or any other mod) is in a position to address them (I'm out at the moment) we will. Please report comments you find unproductive and point out specific examples so the mods have more to go on than "I don't like her". When I get home this is something I will look at and address. Edit: While this sub was originally designed to be a place where civil discussion could be had (and it is being had, to an extent), it's obviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/13 08:08 PM
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Ah ok. My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/13 02:46 PM
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I know that it can't support the notion. I said it can't be confirmed or denied. I was just stating my opinion. Dark Triad to me is something that I think affects a small population of women, but it is my opinion that it does work (on certain women, however small that population may be). In my personal opinion, Dark Triad isn't really something worth pursuing. I don't think enough women would find it attractive to merit the attempt, and the moral issues involved with pursuing it seem to vastly o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/13 04:55 AM
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That's a fair point. I personally think it has some validity in it because there are often news reports about several women who will take up the cause of some criminal or another. Like when one of the Boston Bombers became famous and there were girls tweeting their attraction for him. But you are right; it's not really something that can be objectively confirmed or denied.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/13 04:33 AM
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To me, I don't think there is much of a valid distinction. Selfishness is selfishness, pretend or not. I think it is used as a strategy because there is some usefulness to it. Otherwise, it wouldn't be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/13 04:18 AM
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In all honesty, I don't know. I can admit I've never tried that sort of thing. I imagine a person who does have empathy doesn't loose it just because they choose not to show it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/13 03:25 AM
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I don't think they want to become that, more like emulate that. Emulate the dark, mysterious persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/13 09:20 PM
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Redpillers tend to pick neutral-worded conversations to jump in on, because they hate conversations that have a chance of them being labeled misogynists. I don't think I missed the point, I just didn't address all of it. Of course if you don't know the opposing position (and draw conclusions before listening) you can't have a debate, but that wasn't my point. My point was that if the opponent is constantly barraged and is called a misogynist or asshole or woman-hater or whatever angry words are …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/13 07:56 PM
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Understood. Honestly, a lot of Redpillers themselves will tell you that the subreddit has a lot of unnecessary misogyny; apparently a lot of the original users left or comment less frequently because of how fast the sub took on new users, so the sub became more radical. Makes me wonder where the other users moved to... Still, I would like an explanation as much as you for the article. I was making a suggestion as to how to increase the chances of getting one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/13 06:25 PM
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I agree entirely. I was pointing out that Redpillers have a bias against entering into conversations where misogyny is the topic, or they are put on the defensive from the start. Ive seen many comments from Redpillers that explain that they don't like conversing because it becomes pointless after a while if they're going to be hit with angry resistance from the get-go. I also don't like that article, but I also haven't heard any explanation of it from a seasoned Redpiller, and I actually hope fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/13 06:21 PM
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All I said was that the word "misogyny" puts them off a conversation. I think her post is an entirely valid question; it's just a matter of wording. Redpillers tend to pick neutral-worded conversations to jump in on, because they hate conversations that have a chance of them being labeled misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/13 06:16 PM
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It's probably due to the post's wording. Redpillers don't like hostility, and the word "misogyny" puts them off of conversing because they know it'll end in accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/13 04:54 PM
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If I may jump in, this subreddit wasn't made to disprove sexual strategy. It's a discussion ground for discussing the ideas on both sides, and seeing what ideas can be formed from each side. Since TRP often bans those that disagree and TBP is a mockery sub not fit for a genuine discussion, this sub is a neutral ground that should bother no one because it requires no accommodation or changes to either sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 09:00 PM
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I think OP means that they're an example of what TRP's philosophy talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 08:40 PM
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I'm not a mod yet. I'll leave it be; I'm just telling you that the tone needs to change if this sub is going to have any success at all. A friend of mine made this sub in the hopes that it would foster honest understanding. TRP is suspicious and dismissal of this sub enough as it is and will look for reasons to blow it off completely if they feel cornered by the people on this sub. Save accusations for TBP; here it should be nothing but logical debate delivered as clearly as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 03:48 PM
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If this is such a point of contention, I'd suggest making your own post asking a variety of questions like this one. Preferably, with links to comments that say what you have been saying so its abundant clear that it does in fact happen with frequency. Of course, in order to make it a conversation, and not an accusation, you'll need to neutrally phrase your questions so people will have an interest in the discussion itself, and not feel like they're walking into a post specifically tailored to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 03:23 PM
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I was more referring to her tone and decision to pick out one specific claim to pick on, rather than discuss openly. Her tone seemed openly abrasive, and isnt conducive to facilitating a discussion with Redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 03:13 PM
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I'd actually argue that Not all red pillers claim to be sexually experienced (that's why they are in the sub in the first place- to find out how to get laid) and Those claims don't constitute all of the opinion on TRP. Can sexual ignorance be frustrating? Yes. But so can a crass, passive-aggressive tone on a sub specifically built to foster open, honest debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 03:11 PM
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This isn't why this sub was made. Please stop being sarcastic and inflammatory; it's that kind of tone that will prevent this sub from being a place of discussion, and it would at best be a rehash of TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 02:50 PM
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This sounds like a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 05:48 AM
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I think the standard definition fits well. the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes; organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests While I consider the first part the more "true" version of feminism (what it is supposed to be), the second part covers what many members make it out to be: simply activism for women's interests, whether that activism leans towards equality or the sole advancement of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 05:44 AM
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When it comes to words like feminism and egalitarian, I think those coming from TRP would need to take the standard definitions for them, considering TRP's version of feminism is: ”A doctrine built on the pre-supposition of victimhood of women by men as a foundation of female identity. In its goals is always the utilization of the state to forcibly redress this claimed victimization. In other words, the proxy use of violence and wealth appropriation. In whatever flavor, and variation, these two …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 12:04 AM
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Actually, no. /r/sex does a pretty decent job of keeping both sexes on the same level.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/13 03:25 AM
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Ok, would you mind explaining/sending me a link as to why you think the family is being attacked, and why women don't deserve to vote? I'm having trouble seeing the leap in logic here...
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 12:14 AM
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I wasn't being lippy or anything. I think having confident, strong, smart men in charge is obviously a good idea.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 04:21 PM
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So, following from your conclusion, does this mean your solution is to help smart men to be alpha?
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 04:14 PM
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Thanks for the info. I'll look through it when I get back home.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 03:52 PM
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Thanks. Though, I think that men and women both sometimes screw around because of emotional issues, rather than them actually getting emotional issues from their sex lives. (Though I don't doubt sleeping with many partner doesn't help)
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 03:19 PM
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Honestly, I find a lot of this to be anecdotal, and even women regretting having multiple partners could be a result of emotional bonding issues (which were then made worse) rather than the cause of them. As to your personal experience... I mean, if I had gone through 8 serious relationships in the hopes of them working more long-term than they actually did, I'm sure I'd feel disheartened too.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 03:16 PM
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Is there any proof of that?
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 02:57 PM
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The people who complain about sex ratios are the people looking to hook up. Dancing is a fun activity, and places where people dance tend to attract people who want to fuck, because the women and the alcohol tend to be there. What's aggravating isn't your assumption that a girl is "fair game" (because you can't know if she has a boyfriend or not), it's your assumption that a woman has walked into a "meat market" (a social place is a meat market automatically?) if she wants to dance, and that "If…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 09:06 PM
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Well, I came here mostly to give /u/Endevour what it seemed like he wanted: actual reasons the rest of Reddit doesn't like TRP instead of just throwing mud. Also, I really wanted to start a discussion, because I really have a hard time accepting what is said on this subreddit. I come back every now and then because I see small truths, but like I said, those truths often get thrown in with things I see as blatantly wrong and offensive. But since you took the time to reply to me, I'll extend the s…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 07:31 PM
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Well, the "no fucks given" way this sub's members carries itself certainly is something of a novelty for the rest of Reddit. If nothing else, I gotta admire the confidence with which Redpillers can speak. Then again... I suppose that's part of the point, isn't it?
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 06:37 AM
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Ok, I've been lurking in this sub for a while. Generally, I see many of the same things that a lot of Reddit sees: a general contempt for women. Basically, from the outside, it looks a lot like a group of men who discuss treating women poorly, as if their love lives were a tease or as if the woman's happiness didn't matter. Comments like this one don't do much to sway my opinions into the positive, either. But since you're frustrated with the lack of actual reasoning, I'll try to help out. First…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 06:04 AM
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