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Agreed. Only thing I’d add is that while their are no unicorns, it’s a spectrum of behaviours. AWALT; by degree. Their will always be drama to a certain extent. Their will always be frame/shit tests. Their will always be demands; explicit or implied. It’s all how you respond to them. If you are willing to walk off the lot at any moment in the relationship, then you hold all the cards. Sad as it might be, the one who cares least, wins most.
/r/MGTOW29/09/19 01:18 PM
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The whole point of Reddit-Redpill is to learn and share notes. Me asking about frame has no bearing on the viability or lack thereof of the relationship. I have been in almost a decade long relationship for that matter(+8 years ago); but it was decidedly blue pill. I am aiming to avoid that. I have also played the hookup/short term pump + dump game for (>5 years). It grows tiring. You are right, she very well might be a catch. I know AWALT, by degrees. That’s why I’m asking the questions.
/r/askTRP12/09/19 08:49 PM
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Thank you. That’s what I figured. Cheers
/r/askTRP12/09/19 06:08 PM
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Your opinions of my SMV and dating history are irrelevant to the initial question. I only offered the additional info as a follow up to illustrate. I have been with/relationships with SMV (8+) that are 16 years younger than myself. They are not LTR material as all they can bring to the table is youth + beauty and usually a shifty attitude and flaky behaviour. Beauty fades - a good work ethic and solid financial decisions last a lifetime. Quite obvious you have an axe to grind about your work. I …
/r/askTRP12/09/19 05:59 PM
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Thank you. Useful advice.
/r/askTRP12/09/19 04:55 PM
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I’m not interested in entering a flame war but you need to read the OP. She was apologizing profusely before she even told me. She felt bad before that - nothing I said or did caused that. If anything, she’s desperate I’m going to walk. I have little trouble finding girls. Being late 30s, 6fig, with no debt, paid house and no children. I’m the “prize” in her own words. I wanted to know if corrective action was required from an RP prospective. I didn’t think so, but wanted to confirm.
/r/askTRP12/09/19 03:31 PM
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Actually you need to bone up on your reading comprehension. There was no moping. I was firm and told her that I understood but was disappointed but we’d see each other next time. I rearranged plans for the date - she cancelled for work which is fine. Said plans prove that I have equally important shit to do. She knows I rearranged said plans and offered lunch because she felt bad; not me. It’s her turn to pay anyway as we do 50/50. She’s not pity buying me anything. Hardly a weirdo. Something te…
/r/askTRP12/09/19 02:40 PM
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I didn’t think it required any correction; just wanted to make sure I was on base. Thanks
/r/askTRP12/09/19 12:36 PM
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Agreed. I just don’t want to send the message that I will tolerate it as a common occurrence. Her rescheduling shows she values me. It is for an acceptable reason; as stated in the OP.
/r/askTRP12/09/19 12:34 PM
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Disagree. It’s called setting and having value for yourself.
/r/askTRP12/09/19 12:25 PM
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That’s my gut feeling that it seems healthy and normal. Dealt with some toxic female behaviour over the years that I did not nip in the bud before becoming RP. I set boundaries and standards and walk off the lot the second they are crossed.
/r/askTRP12/09/19 12:10 PM
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She does not have kids - if she did I would not be interested. I don’t date single moms; not interested in looking after another mans spawn or her prior poor planning. She’s conservative as much as an early millennial can be conservative. Correct in the observation that it’s not an LTR per say. We do spend a lot of time together. Regarding kids, she realizes that it likely won’t happen for her and is accepting of that fact. I don’t have kids either and am fine with that situation. Well aware AWA…
/r/askTRP12/09/19 12:05 PM
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Sorry for the cross post; any insight would be helpful.
/r/MGTOW12/09/19 11:05 AM
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You are correct on the odds of finding such a woman. It’s a rarity upon rarities. Even then, they are still women - AWALT on a certain level. Some are better than others. My current gf makes the same as me, is a professional, has her own house and discussed a prenup on the first date - initiated by her. She pulls her weight in the relationship or I will cut her loose without a second thought. Looks wise she’s about 7/10 - was a sold 8.5 -9 maybe 10 years ago. She should age well. Regardless, to …
/r/askTRP09/09/19 07:45 PM
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Simple. Tell her no free rides. Your not a walking ATM. If she bounces, she bounces. You have to set the frame from the onset of the relationship. ie shes paying her way. Looks will eventually fade. If she a hard worker and good with money, that will last a lifetime.
/r/askTRP09/09/19 03:47 PM
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More of a comfort test then a shit test. I might be a legitimate statement. Yet don’t change plans you’ve made because she misses you. Then it’s manipulation. Go about your business and fit her in as you desire. Don’t drop everything for her - this creates some passive dread.
/r/askTRP16/08/19 03:06 AM
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Practice, practice practice. Who care if you succeed or not. Just keep approaching and trying.
/r/askTRP14/08/19 02:46 AM
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I’m no Chad. I just approach women and be social. They will either respond or not. When you just don’t care they get intrigued.
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 03:37 PM
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Like anything in life, you have to tread carefully and cover your six. There is no magic formula as every LTR/hookup/plate is different. The one who cares less about the relationship always win. I’m ready to walk off the lot in a moments notice. I realize that all good things come to an end. For an LTR (girlfriend experience) do not consider a low quality slut, they are pump and dump on vacation only; under an assumed name. My current “LTR” (4mo) is a professional, never married, mid 30s. A few …
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 03:33 PM
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Exactly. Short term relationships less than a year when the urge strikes. Never delude yourself. She’s not yours, it is just your turn. PS - Dude in is late 30s. No kids, married once a short time. Marriage and kids never strengthens a relationship in today’s society; it kills it.
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 10:37 PM
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It takes time; especially after an LTR. You will be smashing that poon like a pro in no time. It happens to all of us.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 07:07 PM
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Oh if she Bi Polar that’s an immediate walk off the lot. You hit it, now it’s time to quite it. Ghost before she goes nuclear and you are collateral damage.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 04:25 PM
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Definitely a failed shit test. But she seems so nuclear in her reaction, I’m guessing she’s monkey branched to another dude. She just needs him to commit to an LTR and you’re out the door. I’m about 18 years older than you - I’ve experienced this many times. It still takes my breath away and I know to expect the pre-monkey branch treatment. AWALT
/r/askTRP07/08/19 01:32 PM
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It obviously bothers the OP, which is enough to next her. Especially if she progresses to dead bedroom syndrome. She’s 26 and still has SMV. She’s definitely looking to monkey branch.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 01:21 PM
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Well written but not practical. Daddy government does not want the truth to be know and to hold women responsible for their reproductive choices. It’s all about offloading the bill to the tax payer (via section 8, etc) and any man they can pin the responsibility of the child on regardless of paternity. It’s about breeding a captive voting audience that is dependent on the state or state institutions to extract resources from hard working men.
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 07:22 PM
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Easy. This relationship is not working for me anymore. I wish you the best. Please don’t contact me further. Block and ghost.
/r/askTRP02/08/19 10:59 PM
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Agree 100% As long as the hassle you put up with is worth the bedroom olympics you receive; it’s worth it. Otherwise shut it down. Everyone has a tolerance. But when they stop being the hell yeah girl (do you want sex- hell yeah , let’s go to Vegas 50/50 - hell yeah, let’s have sex on the breach - hell yeah. Then you drop them
/r/askTRP02/08/19 05:37 PM
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6 years alone. Home paid. Late 30s. Never going back to the plantation. I have girlfriends; I see someone about once a week for the relationship experience. Then she leaves. Will always live alone. No marriage, no cohabitation, no procreation.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 12:33 AM
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If you are not married, not living together, and have no kids in common - how is this your problem? They are all depressed. This is not a true disability it’s a crutch. Positions reversed she’d have stepped over your dead body long ago. Cut slingload. Old rules of society don’t apply. Chivalry is dead. Our taxes provide for nanny government. Let her default to social assistance. A relationship should not be an act of charity.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 06:25 PM
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It always happens sooner or later. Alway. AWALT Cut/sling/load is hard. To cover an accusation, get a few text saying how happy she is with the relationship. How much she loved the vacation. Then break it off in a public place - if legal also record it. Then break all contact.
/r/askTRP31/07/19 06:17 PM
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You are not her white knight. Woman are liberated. They can fend for themselves. I have no problem being Alpha and protective to my partner, but that ends at marriage, cohabitation and kids. Never get yourself in a position where you can walk away in 5 min. I’ve been placed in a similar position may relationships before. Life experience has taught me you get 2 years max out of a relationship. Then demands start. Then they will tank a good relationship just with the delusion they can do better. T…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 05:42 PM
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Agreed. I also agree with most of what the OP has stated. The problem in today’s society is not women; they have always been woman since the beginning of time. The problem is hypergamy is monetized in the divorce system and the sexual market place is now deregulated.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 01:23 PM
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If she’s young and attractive, take it as fact that she is playing the field. She will deny it, and cry foul if you do it, but hypergamy dictates that she is alway assessing her options. You should do the same. If you want to upgrade her to an LTR, just remember that it’s for a limited time. She’s never yours, it’s just your turn. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the relationship. But never put yourself in a position where you can’t walk away in 5 min. Never marry. Never cohabitate. Never procreate.
/r/askTRP30/07/19 01:03 AM
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Actually I am. Physician with zero debt, paid off house and not even 40. A guys SMV increases with time. A woman’s decreases exponentially after 30. Good luck Tuna.
/r/askTRP25/07/19 08:05 PM
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Ex wife did this as well. Talking about some dude at work out of context and unsolicited. Classic shit test to rattle your frame. I’m old school. If a chick is finding out of the blue reasons to talk about another guy she’s either banging him or considering it. Unfortunately you have a kid in common. Second that happens in any of my relationships, having learned the hard way in my past, it’s an immediate soft to hard next. I just won’t put up with it. I must be the centre of attention for her or…
/r/askTRP25/07/19 04:36 PM
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It’s over. Learn from the experience. Move on. One ticket per person, per lifetime.
/r/askTRP25/07/19 01:05 PM
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Not my monkey, not my circus. Thank god. Delivered a few. There interfamily dynamics are not my concern.
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 12:36 PM
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Hot and cold is just her attempt to make you crazy. Ignore it. Focus on you. She will either monkey branch or won’t. NFG
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 05:44 PM
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Just to echo some of the other gents. You can still be a success in life; especially if you are good with your hands. I know people with an IQ over 130+ and are abject failures at life. 1.) Find a trade or job that pays well; that you can work with your hands. 2.) Hire professionals for things you are not sure about. For example, if you start your own business, hire a lawyer, a book keeper and accountant. Listen to their advice. 3.) Protect what you’ve made by not marrying, cohabitating or havin…
/r/askTRP23/07/19 08:34 PM
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Passive aggressive, hamster spinning nonsense. As long as she is still enjoyable company, and you don’t live, have children with, or married to her, who the fuck cares?! If she is that much of a hassle, cut sling load. Move on. It’s her issue not yours. If she needs help, I demand my woman asks. I’m no knight white tampon to ride to the rescue. Take this from an older dude (late 30s) who has been around the block a few times and back.
/r/askTRP23/07/19 12:56 PM
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Exactly. You set the frame of your date and stick too it. It’s called setting boundaries. Long gone are the days where women get a free ride. Remember, you are the prize.
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 12:10 PM
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Dump her immediately. One ticket per lifetime. Period. No contact and move on.
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 08:06 PM
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This is it! No profit; and not the only gig in town.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 03:53 PM
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More red flags than a Chinese military parade. My ex use to do this - we’d be driving buy an establishment, and out of nowhere she’d state - “oh I dated so and so. He was an asshole.” It’s shit testing, signs of hypergamy, and a prelude to monkey branching. I was young then. If my current woman did that, out of context, I’d drop her immediately or just spin her until the plate breaks.
/r/askTRP21/07/19 12:29 PM
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Just withdrawal. Don’t make yourself available and start looking for a new plate. BTW you should have multiple going. Let the passive dread set in. She’s got a new cock for sure. Just have to accept your turn is over. Sucks but: She not yours; it’s just your turn.
/r/askTRP21/07/19 01:21 AM
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Beauty!
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 10:55 PM
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And some claim the ancients were primitive and modern society is the pinnacle of modern civilization. Hardly.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 07:14 PM
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If she not their to support you in your mission, then let her monkey branch. Inevitable anyway.
/r/askTRP20/07/19 10:13 AM
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True words
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 01:37 AM
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Hook up culture is a live and well. This is how I started a 2 year FWB with a HB8 that was 16 years younger than me. Just never marry, wear protection, and fight fire with fire. Know she’s not yours and it’s just your turn. Be able to cut/sling/load in 5 min when the shit hits the fan.
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 09:03 PM
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LTRs all eventually end. The second demands and shit tests start; I start to immediately build distance. Remember, you are the prize. Even if the LTR is good, I always suggest keeping your game active. Social media is wonderful for that. Coffee dates, chatting, plating and back burning a chick. You have to forget ethics; fight fire with fire. You don’t have to necessarily sleep with the secondary chick; treat her as an orbiter like the womenz do. When all your eggs are not in the same basket, yo…
/r/askTRP16/07/19 08:16 PM
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Awesome! Well crafted. I’d love to have talent like that!
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 07:51 PM
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Girls are a dim a dozen. Any shit and I just next them. Remember, you are the prize.
/r/askTRP15/07/19 07:32 PM
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Failure happens. It’s part of life. I’m almost 40 - I don’t remember my successes but I sure as hell remember all my failures. The key is to learn your lesson and not repeat. Maybe take a break from LTRs and keep any dating casual and exclusive to the summer. I went through med school as well and the pressure can be insane - you don’t need problems with a bitch derailing you. Plus remember - she’s not yours, it’s just your turn.
/r/askTRP15/07/19 12:39 PM
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Exactly. Breaking plates is normal. Turns eventually end. It sucks when the sex is good but your value will increase while her’s decreases. Even at 39, I still need to remind myself. The blue pill programming is very strong - especially when the sex is fantastic.
/r/askTRP15/07/19 12:23 PM
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If she’s doing this now, she will do it worse later when living together or married. No such thing as a serious LTR relationship. She’s not yours; it’s just your turn.
/r/askTRP14/07/19 08:12 PM
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She’s a plate. Don’t get a case of onitis. Find a new plate in your rotation. Back burner her for a little. She will either move on or get her act together. Never be afraid to walk off the lot. Remember after 30+ you are the prize
/r/askTRP14/07/19 08:05 PM
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They are trying to artificially increase their own SMV by indicating they are “special” because they don’t usually date guys like you. They are trying to add some pressure to the situation. It’s also a shit test to get you to respond in a panicked manner and gauge your interest level. My response is usually - “well that’s unfortunate “ and I get up to leave. Nice to flip the shit test and watch them panic and get you to sit back down.
/r/askTRP09/07/19 12:51 PM
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Skip the club next time.
/r/askTRP08/07/19 12:11 AM
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It takes time. Immerse yourself in social situations. Expect to fuck it up. Never be afraid of failure; it’s life’s best teacher.
/r/askTRP06/07/19 02:53 AM
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Been snipped for years.
/r/MGTOW06/07/19 02:42 AM
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Fucking awesome! Looks like my lifestyle. One chick I’m banging said I’m a unicorn; 39, no kids, 6 figures, 6+ ‘ tall, 6” hammer. No debt paid off house. Be that unicorn. GYOW
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 04:45 PM
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Bitching about 40 hr work week. I routinely pull 75hr work weeks; shift work at that.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 02:45 PM
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She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. Second a better option comes up, hypergamy demands that she monkey branches. Especially in today’s social media driven, Narcissistic society. Divorce rape has created incentives for cash and prizes.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 01:42 PM
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Absolute social degenerates.
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 12:42 PM
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Society takes a whole new spin when she can be cheating on you over her morning coffee. Getting into a LTR with any women, in today’s days and age is madness.
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 04:41 AM
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Lol if real life was like that. Our grandfathers got a woman that had a notch count less than 3, cooked and cleaned. He married her in her early 20s. Today we get a girl with a notch count between 20-200, has not idea of cooking and cleaning, is smothered in tattoos, and only wants to settle down north of 30-35 and has multiple kids from multiple baby daddies. So much for Cinderella.
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 02:26 PM
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Soft next. She’s not interested. A girl will be initiating contact with you. Your just going to be a backup date or used to make her main interest jealous. You want a “hell yes” girl. You want to go out? - “Hell yes”. You want to spend time together - “Hell yes”. Second you start getting these non committal response you move on.
/r/askTRP02/07/19 09:51 PM
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They are. One flight to Amsterdam and for 80€ you can fuck a 18-20 year old. Guaranteed performance. No drama. And likely cleaner than most of the girls you meet now a days.
/r/MGTOW02/07/19 06:00 PM
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You have to view them all as plates; especially at your age. Chances are super high you won’t end up with her when she’s 22 and at her sexual peak. Find a new plate to spin to get yourself out of that oneitis. She will be barking up my tree (M40) just because it’s taboo, I have more cash, and we have similar SMVs. It won’t last with me either - she’s riding the carousel.
/r/askTRP02/07/19 04:55 AM
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Idealize ——> devalue——> Discard. This is the typical 6-12 month cycle.
/r/MGTOW02/07/19 02:57 AM
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Conversion rate is always low. Like other have said, a few lines and give your number. If she bites great. If not, move on. Of the ones you get a number, 2/10 will meet you and 1/10 you will get to fuck. I’m no Chad. So my success rate is about 1 new conquest a month. Then you need to try a plate her. My rotation is at 3 right now. Honestly, it’s a lot of work. You reach the stage you’d just rather go to the range.
/r/askTRP29/06/19 09:39 PM
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Good to hear. My record was 6 years. Separate residences definitely help. Like yourself I like my space. I can usually get 2 years out of my LTRs. But I date women 15+ years younger (early to mid 20s). Then they get baby rabies and need to be cut loose.
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 09:24 PM
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Ultimately AWALT. Give it time. Good thing if you don’t marry or cohabitate you can be out of the relationship in 5 min flat.
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 09:11 PM
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Live and learn. I’ve never been in your situation before; I have multiple plates but have never crossed the bridge you described. It such a unique situation; doubtful I would have acted any different.
/r/askTRP29/06/19 09:06 PM
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I won’t pay for dates. Coffee at most if she drove far enough. First date is always a coffee and less than an hour. I then pretend I get an emergency text and leave. Especially when she’s getting to some juicy story. With the promise we will do it again if I’m into her. Builds mystery. On the 3-4 date (after I’ve fucked her) dinner is 50/50. I’m a bold dick and will tell them upfront it’s Dutch. At my age (39), even sex with a 7+/10 20 something I can take or leave. When you have no fucks to giv…
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 04:06 AM
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Got to love these people who have 4day old accounts come here and complain. Tuna And for the record; no I don’t hate woman. Once you understand them, you just can’t love them romantically.
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 03:57 AM
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Don’t get married and don’t cohabitate. Problem solved.
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 06:11 PM
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“Sorry this is not working for me. “ Break all contact. No explanation needed. She owes you nothing, you owe her nothing.
/r/askTRP28/06/19 02:19 PM
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Sex aside, if the relationship is causing that much stress tell her it’s not working for you. The second a chick eluded that she was going to break up with me I’d drop her immediately. Joke or not. Don’t feel bad. During my blue pill days my ex wife tried this same shit during our honeymoon. If I knew then what I know now I would have walked off the lot then and there. If you don’t respect you, who will?
/r/askTRP27/06/19 07:20 PM
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I’ve come to realize that women and pussy is a Hygienic Need. Nothing more. It should not be the focus of ones life. It should not be the one driving purpose. In today’s society, she’s not yours, it’s just your turn, is true.
/r/askTRP27/06/19 06:50 PM
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To echo, that’s the game. 6-8mo and they bounce. You have to ask yourself, do you want to be a slave. The second you commit they will start looking for new dick because mentally they view you as cucked.
/r/askTRP27/06/19 04:14 PM
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Not so much extreme but reality. Facts don’t care about your, or my, feelings. If she’s slept with more than 3 guys she can’t pair bond and is not LTR material. Not that LTR is an option in today’s divorce industry society. I don’t hate women, I just understand them and cannot love them in a romantic capacity.
/r/askTRP26/06/19 04:21 PM
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Get use to it if you are going to date. The deregulated sexual marketplace is not like an animated film. No relationship lasts forever - that’s why have multiple to ease the loss. Remember - She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. Until they hit 30+ and want a beta wallet. Don’t be that guy. Don’t get yourself in a position where you can’t walk away in 5 min. So never marry, cohabitate, or procreate.
/r/askTRP26/06/19 02:07 PM
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Yes, all relationships end. I accept that; it gives them meaning. Core Buddhist philosophy on attachment causing suffering. I don’t hate women, I just now understand them. She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. What I do hate is being made liable for them by the state. And paying for their piss poor planning through free handout.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:42 AM
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Sit back and enjoy the decline fellas. I’m making caramel popcorn and beer is in the fridge.
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 09:48 PM
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Nice bike! Make/Model?
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 06:54 PM
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Magic word in the English language - “No”. I don’t do social media. It’s a branding/cuck/ ownership power play. Hold your frame.
/r/askTRP25/06/19 04:53 PM
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Tuna.
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 04:37 PM
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6 years, 2 married, no kids, no support. She just wanted to ride the carousel 🎠 again at 37. Some 5 years later, she hit the wall and is older, poor and powerless. I am free and bang who I want, when I want, how I want. Dumb too. She left a 6 figure physician for a day labourer. Best thing that ever happened to me.
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 05:58 AM
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He’s a stand up guy. She’s the run of the mill, post wall, Princess bitch. Does not appreciate what she’s got. She’s been taking applications for peg - D in her slot -C. Only bad boys may apply.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 06:01 PM
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Remember, her families money is not your money. So this should not be a factor, unless she’s a sugar momma type of personality and is likely to buy you a car; per say. You can try to back burner her. But worse comes to worse, line up your new plate(S) and move on. Trust me, she is doing the same.
/r/askTRP24/06/19 05:25 PM
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That’s awesome! Some hidden red pills.
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 10:28 PM
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Yes it does! Warmed the cockles of my black heart. 🖤
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 12:08 PM
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When she initiates the breakup, she’s already fucking the other dude. Classic monkey branching behaviour. Heck, even when you are not broken up, she’s likely fucking another dude. Just women being women.
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 05:59 AM
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Beautiful. Great photo
/r/MGTOW22/06/19 09:05 PM
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Fake it until you make it. Or date lessor women (4 or 5) and work your way up. Starter girlfriend. Treat them well, but they are to experiment with. Not LTR material (assuming you prescribe to that)
/r/askTRP22/06/19 08:38 PM
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He is stuck in the handyman habitat. Great video by Terrance Popp.
/r/MGTOW22/06/19 08:14 PM
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Brother; I went through a similar circumstance growing up. My dad and mom, while not perfect as my mom can be difficult at times; truly had a good relationship. When I was younger I extrapolated that the same would continue for me. It didn’t. My dad has since passed and my mom is doing well. Causing drama every now and then, but mostly “content” - as much as woman can be content. I was divorced in less than 2 years. No kids or support. At first I was angry, then lost, then hedonistic, then unmot…
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 07:02 PM
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I still casually date, but I never pay for meals. I’ve taken the stance that they are enjoying my company, I am the asset, so they can damn well pay their way. First few dates are coffee dates. 1hr and $2.00 of my resources invested. Below 30 it’s 50/50. Above 30 it’s more often than not that they pay. I keep things casual (meal bill less than $40.)
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 04:32 PM
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Eh, ancient art has included phalluses since the dawn of civilization. It was the way of signifying the importance of man and his seed in establishing civilization and the future generation. The Thot straddling it is another matter. Although I’m sure in ancient times similar behaviour went on. Woman have always been woman and craved drama and attention.
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 02:46 PM
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I know I should not feed the trolls; but here goes. I don’t hate woman. I just have come to realize that once you understand them, you can’t love them. She’s not yours, it’s only your turn. Engaging with most woman is like taking you life into your own hands in today’s society. Men are walking off the lot of traditional relationships. Feminism told you that you were equal/better than men - now fend for yourselves.
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 02:40 PM
7

That’s the line of hogwash animated films fed us in the 80/90/00/10+. Real life is not like that. Women can love their children + maybe pets; like you stated. We are for protection and resources. Look at Europe during WW2. Women would sleep with anyone, aid and abed the invading power, and switch sides when the new power rolled in. Men would fight and die to protect their homeland. It’s Darwinism at work. Getting mad at this is like getting made a gravity or because water is wet. It’s just the n…
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 05:21 AM
7

Old saying: “To get over one woman, get under another”.
/r/askTRP21/06/19 03:19 AM
35

Look on their faces speaks a 1000 words. I’ve seen more happy patients waiting for a digital rectal exam.
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 02:22 AM
58

Chicks do this all the time. By the time you are 3 mo into dating, they do the creeping doom - remove your friends/family/hobbies. I only ever give them 1 night a week. The rest is my time. It drives them wild when you turn down sex to go play hockey or scuba dive or hang with your friends. Hold your frame and you can back burner them and when the mood strikes front burner them. They will eventually leave, they always do, but at least you did it on your terms. Remember you are the prize; especia…
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 01:02 AM
2

Agreed. Hence Hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 11:31 PM
14

If in doubt, don’t bother.
/r/askTRP20/06/19 05:08 PM
7

And even when they find one they will not appreciate what they have. 7 years and 2-3 kids later, they will jump on Chad/Tyrone because he gives her the tingles. Women are never happy and society condones it
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 04:19 PM
2

Slang my man. I will assume you are not trolling. Amsterdam for prostitution. Legal and safer than most girls you meet on Tinder in terms of disease because it’s regulated. Plus you can bang 18,19,20 year olds for €80. All 8+/10. Guaranteed performance. Shoot horse = being funny. White knight. I’m so anti white knight (ie not a captain save a hoe) any longer, that I shot my horse and ate him. Metaphorically speaking. A knight needs a horse. Baby Rabies = 28+ women that want babies and will lie w…
/r/askTRP20/06/19 05:20 AM
1

Online dating is for women > 30 and/or less than 7/10 and/or mental health issues of various degrees. Basically your desperate baby rabies or single moms. Stay clear of the single moms. That being said, sometimes you do get a half decent one with a good job and reasonable looks. It’s just they have a very high cock count, and I’m not going to put a ring on anyone; let alone one well past their prime. If i was going to take that risk, I’d marry a 19 year old. The super hot ones use it as a free e…
/r/askTRP20/06/19 04:45 AM
1

To echo, dating is a numbers game. Sometimes you strike gold (38 vs F22) 8/10 like I had a 2 year fling with. Sometimes you have to settle for a mid 30s chick 7/10. Less than 6.5 and I’d rather masturbate. It’s just the way of the modern dating world. Temporary relationships. Don’t live with them, don’t procreate; don’t marry.
/r/askTRP20/06/19 04:16 AM
6

Get out of debt fast. The interest saving alone are more than you will make on any investment short turn. Plus the risk to you is zero as it’s money that you owe and cannot be wiped out with bankruptcy. Plus it will go a long way to rebuilding your credit. Likely, property ownership won’t happen for you for a while. Once the debt is slayed see where the market and global financial situation is at. Starting out, Cash is king. If the housing market takes a dump in a few years, you will have the ab…
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 03:05 AM
1

Biology trumps social dynamics every time.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 07:24 PM
3

This particular one I met while travelling; we hooked up there. She happened to live cross state - about 4hrs away. It was more a once/twice a month weekend booty call. Later she tried to convert into a LTR; it did not last. Best relationshit I ever had - lol. How I pulled it off for so long?; no idea. I never said “I love you”, or spent really any money on her. She never met any of my friends or family. I just kept frame, treated her like an adult, and did my own thing. I accepted that it might…
/r/askTRP19/06/19 12:32 PM
5

🤡 🌎
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 12:10 PM
41

Whenever they are out of your sight for more than an hour, assume they are cheating, or lining up the next dude to monkey branch too. Women conduct affairs while working 9-5 jobs. Imagine being totally out of the country for months or years at a time. Contrary to popular belief, women crave sex more then men - being hypersexualized in today’s society + multiple orgasms - what do you expect? Dude is signing his slavery papers.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 01:38 AM
33

It called SMV. Look up the curve. I was banging a 22 year old at 38 for almost 2 years. She was a good 7/10 made up to 8/10. I am no Chad. As you get older, you can easily get younger women that have daddy issues. You have power, money, world experiences, and resources. Just practice your game and give it time. Never marry, cohabitate or procreate. PS - I was in a committed relationship (blue pill days) from 28-35. Missed out on tons of tail and experiences. Don’t be me.
/r/askTRP19/06/19 01:31 AM
3

That’s how they leave you - blind, penniless and infirm if you marry/cohabitate/procreate! Also be mindful of the STI’s - Herpiegonaciphalse.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 01:26 AM
3

Tragic. But cause and effect of not having strong father figures in the home.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 09:56 PM
4

My play exactly. Always coffee with a high probability of it leading to sex. I enjoy the company of women. But, I’m too old (39) to have kids. Plus, I like to be free!
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 03:00 PM
4

Agree 100%. When their behaviour is dismissive, this is your cue for a soft next. Move onto your next plate or find a new one.
/r/askTRP18/06/19 02:10 PM
6

Attractive for her age. But I’m still not buying. Why would I? So I can get divorce raped and be a slave for the rest of my life? Fuck that. Plus even if it is deemed that my SMV is zero, that’s what pros are for.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 05:02 AM
16

I’m for Meritocracy. In order to have a vote one of the following conditions need to be met. 1.) Served in the armed forces for >15 years with distinction. Or 2.) Own property. Or 3.) Be a senior (>65) and worked and contributed to society for more than 25 years or was married to a spouse where the marriage ended in death were the above condition was met. (TradCon clause for successful marriage - essentially the stay at home spouse inherits the voting right of the long term contributing husband)…
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 03:05 AM
2

Women are like water - they fill the container they are with. Good luck finding a truly independent woman that is her own person with her own likes/dislikes. They always need to take on your hobbies so they can change you and ensure control. It’s been like this with every woman I’ve ever dated more than 3mo.
/r/askTRP17/06/19 07:57 PM
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I see this all the time. You are rocking things just doing your own thing. Keep it that way. I still hook up with women; but it never goes beyond the superficial and I can cut, sling, load in 5min without any attachments. I did a 6 year relationship (2 married) - never again. No kids, no support. I’m a few years older than you(almost 40) and I am high on life as well. I do what I want, when I want, how I want.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 07:45 PM
20

And if other women hate her, she is bat shit crazy.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 02:19 AM
1

All relationships offer is Sex< domestic companionship < procreation Which can be obtained by Pro< friends < surrogacy No need to be a slave on the plantation in this day and age.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 01:12 AM
4

Damn! Looks great. 💨
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 08:32 PM
2

Nice tactical vest! Do you have 2A or ceramic plates?
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 08:30 PM
5

You might want to be with her; I don’t doubt that. You sound like a decent dude. I was a huge captain save a hoe in my past also. Highly unlikely she’d be with you given her character , hypergamy and today’s society. The Red Pill/MGTOW is a logical solution to an illogical world.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 06:24 PM
9

Alpha fucks, beta bucks. At 21 when she was banging the 43 year old - social validation + forbidden fruit and because she gets to take someone away from someone else. His wife wants him so she must have him until he dumps his marriage and suddenly she does not want him. From 21 - early 30s she’s taken the alpha seed knowing that government will pickup the tab and she’s a hero in societies eyes. She knows in the next year or so, some beta will walk in a buy her and her baggage. Until it’s time to…
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 06:19 PM
12

Slaves rarely like being on the plantation. 😂
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 02:48 PM
8

And with a single statement - “I’m not happy” the kids are taken away, the man is chained to support payments for the rest of his life, the kids are turned against him, and if he refuses to be a slave he goes to jail. It just not worth the risk.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 02:36 PM
3

Damn! Very nice indeed!
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 07:02 AM
29

I have a problem providing for women. What do they bring to the table beside vagina? Fuck that. Let them provide for themselves.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 06:02 AM
1

Do what’s natural. As long as you did not have the “committed” talk (and why would you at 3mo), no one is married. Play the field. Nothing like a little competitive anxiety.
/r/askTRP16/06/19 04:33 AM
10

My childhood, when boys could be boys. Playing outside until the street lights came on. Long before adult concerns. To live those times again.
/r/MGTOW15/06/19 08:11 PM
0

Society back then was no treat for men. Women lived a life of leisure. But at least it functioned, and men and women were relatively more happy (remembering women are never happy). Feminism and the sexual revolution freed both men and women. I’m glad I’m free and Rome can collapse.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 08:52 PM
3

I’m sure she has been feeling tons of Chad/Tyrone - 6 inches at a time.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 05:50 PM
7

World population is not dropping, only increasing. Despite the current trend toward xenophobia a certain amount of immigrants will enter western society from 3rd - 2nd world nations. People still need roofs over their heads western birth rates dropping aside. The above being said, I do think a lot of areas are in a housing bubble. With housing costing 10-20x the gross income of a household, before the cost of servicing the mortgage, these situations are unsustainable. There will be a correction.
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 06:35 PM
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1.) Divorce Lawyer. Need to iron out custody, support, and property concerns. Do nothing until you talk with him/her. 2.)Record everything. Prevents domestic violence accusations. 3.) Keep a journal of interactions. Date and time stamp. Email a version to yourself every day. 4.)Paternity test all three kids. If you’ve acted as the father, you will still likely have to pay child support regardless of paternity. But if they are not yours, it gives your options to flee the country and start again. …
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 02:52 PM
1

Wear a condom and take it with you or flush it. Practice putting it on beforehand if it’s been a while. No “it’s just the tip” Everyone has a iPhone or Android. Get a reliable recording app and record each date. Make sure the phone is on the nightstand to record consent. Label and date stamp it. Keep a journal type entry and email it to yourself so it’s time stamped. Check legalities in your area. Only fuck at her place. If she gives you a crazy vibe abort. Don’t stick your dick in crazy. I don’…
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 02:39 PM
1

Absolutely awesome picture
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 04:08 AM
1

Texting is for setting dates otherwise you kill the mystery. Set the date and go radio silent. You want her to think you are so busy (dating others) that you will engage her competitive instinct. I will only text chat a girl after I sleep with her. Talking/texting too much and the girl knows too much about you. Girls like to fantasize and mystery.
/r/askTRP13/06/19 02:06 AM
2

She said that she was essentially not interested until after midterms. Likely it is an excuse. Her interest seems low - if a girl was interested she’d find 30min for a coffee in my opinion. Don’t pursue or you will seem desperate. Make her think you are in a position of plenty not famine. If you have not made a definite date, wait until after midterms and try one more text with a date & time. Don’t confirm after the date is set. Make it easy for you - so if she does not show, no biggie. I usuall…
/r/askTRP13/06/19 01:59 AM
6

Awesome joke! And yes, there is room for humour.
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 12:39 AM
3

Women are not bad per-say; although it’s like handing a child a gun in western society. Society has taken their nature and weaponized it. Coupled with a victim based society and female biased legal system and you get the current situation in the west. Women are wired according to Braffaults Law. With a decentralized dating system, 85% of the women want to fuck 15% of the guys. This plays into the dual mating strategy. The welfare state puts this on steroids because the state will pay and support…
/r/askTRP12/06/19 09:46 PM
5

For me it did; subjective experience. (But I have a high sex drive - multi times a day to 3 times a week when living with a chick if I had the choice.) Competitive mating strategy cuts both ways. Women tend to use it as a power play to extract resources and manipulate. Men I think just get tired of banging the same drum again and again. The more I think on the Red Pill, men and women were not built for long term monogamy; especially in the decentralized sexual market place.
/r/askTRP12/06/19 08:08 PM
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Agree! Be safe. Take the condom with you. Make sure it’s a throw away job that you can leave if things get too hot. Don’t shit were you eat if it’s a serious employment offer with long term benefits.
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 07:41 PM
5

Just be you. I’m serious as well; being in the reserves for almost 15 years will do that- along with my profession. Just be light and breezy in your approach, and have a smile on your face. The rest tends to fall into place. When you don’t care about the outcome; life is oh so much easier. I will chat with a chick for 5 min, give her my number and excuse myself. Creates mystery and shows she’s one of many. As you get older, and you take more of the Red Pill, you will find that you can quickly we…
/r/askTRP12/06/19 07:35 PM
3

This is it to 1000% I was never a full blown Chad; just did my own thing. I could get women (7/10 range) and was more of a serial monogamist- the average relationship lasting about 6mo. This was in my 20s. Until I met the future ex wife. 6 years (2 married) and you can’t help but become that ultra beta provider. Predictably she jumped on a Chad. Thank god no children or support obligations. Now I date 20 somethings. Had one 16 years younger for about 2 years (22-24). I gave her next to nothing a…
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 05:32 PM
6

Don’t. No advice. Don’t be friend zoned or an emotional tampon. Not Your monkey; not your circus.
/r/askTRP12/06/19 03:33 PM
4

Wow. You’d think he’d have learned his lesson. Bye bye to the majority of his fortune. She’s cashing out - statistically she knows he will be dead in a few years. His will could give her far less.
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 02:50 AM
19

Dump her. While no one is married yet, this deserves and immediate walk off the lot. Especially during this late stage of dating were your engaged to be married. One chance per lifetime; no exceptions.
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 02:43 AM
7

And this is why men are unplugging from society. Are all women like this. No. But most are and you have no idea when one will turn on you. This brand of toxic feminism has absolutely destroyed male/female relationships both in the workplace and societal interactions. Men are walking away in droves. Since there is no place for them at work they under-employ themselves. Society cannot sustain this and will collapse.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 10:35 PM
3

An example of stoicism. An example to show us all how to conduct ourselves in life - if your MGTOW or blue pill.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 07:39 PM
6

It doesn’t. They want a socialist “paradise”. I have no problem with basic healthcare. It allows for a healthy and hopefully productive populace. But, to qualify, you have to be employed (or deemed disabled by a panel of professionals). Birth control is not healthcare. Nor is abortion unless it’s medically necessary. Nor is feminine hygiene products. If you give these woman the chance they have everyone else working while they live the life of leisure. That’s why I think someone should only get …
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 04:19 PM
1

Exactly. No amount of financial damage would allow me to be with a land whale or put up with any BS. Or just avoid the issue and never marry or cohabitate. Men age like wine; women like milk. Absolute cognitive dissonance.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 01:32 PM
9

I hear your bro. Definitely go your own way. With women the trick is to not give a fuck. Dangle the line and if they bit, great. You get sex. If not, there are other means. It’s only sex. The ego boost and social status of bedding a girl is just social proofing. If not, oh well, work on being you. Do your hobbies. Make your money. Buy them nothing unless it’s reciprocated. Never get into a position where you can’t walk off the lot in 5 min. That’s why never marry, never procreate, never cohabita…
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 01:24 PM
36

In today’s day and age kids are not yours, they are the mothers and the states. They will be weaponized against you. Never procreate, never cohabitate, never marry.
/r/MGTOW10/06/19 07:52 PM
12

Talk to a family lawyer. No such thing as an undercover divorce.
/r/MGTOW10/06/19 12:47 PM
13

“40 odd and all shagged out....” please. I look better now than I did when I was 20. Plus I have success and $$$. My SMV is way better now; when she’s 40 it will be a hoard of cats for her. The wall comes!
/r/MGTOW10/06/19 12:17 PM
2

Our situations were almost identical. I was not around mine as much - it was a long distance thing; about 4hrs apart cross state. We saw each other about one weekend a month. Relationship was totally based on sex. She was an absolute pornstar hoe. Best type of relationship ever; meet up, have dinner and fuck the weekend away. At 24 (2 years later) she monkey branched. I honestly can’t blame her. She knew she’d get nothing from me. I was Red Pill enough by that point that I held tight and walked …
/r/MGTOW10/06/19 03:17 AM
1

Agreed 100%. Leave them wanting more. Create mystery and only spend time with her when it works for you. The second you devote all your time to her she will loose interest. Guaranteed. It’s because you will come off as needy - women like a challenge.
/r/askTRP09/06/19 10:29 PM
0

Agreed. Less is more. If you chase her, she will monkey branch for sure. I’d say something like: “ I enjoy spending time with you, we have a blast together. When you have some more time we can have some great sex together and pickup where we left off; if I’m not seeing someone. Don’t be a stranger.“ Shows you have options, sets up that you are not friend-zone or emotional tampon material. Then don’t chat unless she commits to a date/time. Set the date and don’t chat in between. Your time is more…
/r/askTRP09/06/19 08:49 PM
12

Very true. Maybe more content is a better statement. But I agree they are never happy. There never was a golden age. But at least society protected women against their own self destructive nature - which would have made them more content by comparison. All by enforcing the social contract of marriage and shaming hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 08:29 PM
5

You should not be convincing anyone of anything. You are your own man. She did not like the 50/50 rule, so she walked. She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. Your turn is over. I will guarantee she has another guy in the wings. They never monkey branch without a limb to swing too. He will be easier to financially manipulate. If things don’t workout with the new guy expect a swing back - for all the cash you saved.
/r/askTRP09/06/19 08:27 PM
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Summarizes the balance of power in a relationship. Women control the gateway to sex, men are the gatekeepers to commitment. After 30, they are played out.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 08:20 PM
41

Shame. The 2 chicks in the foreground are attractive. When they hit the Wall in a few years feminism and this crazy leftist racist agenda will not be there for them. 70 years ago, they would be married, with kids, a husband and happy. Likely a white man who would have been their protector. NFG. Enjoy your cats, government handouts and Xanax Not my problem to fix.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 08:03 PM
5

Agreed. Encapsulated most of what I have experienced. We are of the same age. I enjoy my 20 somethings - almost 2 years of great sex with a 8/10 that was 17 years younger when the relationship started. For me it’s not so much the sex but the validation received from fucking a hot woman. (Especially younger) I know that’s residual blue pill programming. And I do have it in check. But once you’ve checked it off the list the drive goes away.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 07:23 PM
12

Guys who do well with women like that ignore them. It puts the hamster on nuclear. That’s why they are putting on a display. Lol
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 03:46 PM
10

Lol. Not like I will tolerate star fish sex for too long. I put them through the paces and positions. But, it’s my cardio workout and not theirs.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 02:57 PM
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Once you reach a certain age, for me 35+, sex is just sex. I still crave it at almost 40, but i am not willing to jump through hoops. I do it on my terms or not at all. I’ve slept with woman 17 years younger than me. I’ve done the blonde bimbo with 36Ls. I currently have 2 early 30s women (7/10) fighting for my attention and blowing up my phone. I’d honestly rather drive my car, go target shooting, have a beer, or work on my hobbies. My time is worth more than a fuck where I have to do all the w…
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 01:59 PM
2

To the OP; It’s a simple fact that at 32, he is higher on the SMV curve than you. He has resources, power, experience, the foreigners touch, and is wanted by another women. This has her all tingling. Don’t think with logic (you being younger without a family) and the more stable long play. She is not looking to settle down, but ride he carousel. She’s not his, it’s just his turn.
/r/askTRP09/06/19 01:01 PM
37

One chance, per person, per lifetime.
/r/askTRP09/06/19 03:08 AM
1

They are a deterrent and nothing more. Even when signed between two people who have had independent legal advice, they can still be thrown out; especially if children are later involved as part of the relationship. Best interest of the child always rules. They need to be updated frequently when the relationship changes or their is a material change in status. Problem is, your already married by that point, so there is no incentive for the other party to sign and updated version. Just enjoy the r…
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 08:39 PM
9

Economics don’t care about their feelings.
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 12:33 PM
21

Exactly. Being a hoe is easy. Being a player (if you are into PUA - not that I’m advocating it) is hard. The average older millennial, by the age of 35, has had numerous sex partners. So many so that they cannot pair bond. I don’t even want to imagine with younger women <25; the Instagram generation. To put it into perspective, there are almost 8 billion people on this earth. Sex is easy. How many nuclear physicist are there? Don’t be common. Be exceptional and focus on you and do you. Women, wi…
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 12:29 PM
4

Remember she’s not yours it’s just your turn. Hard sometimes I know; when the firmware protector instinct kicks in. I’m guilty of this myself. The other guy knows nothing about you, or just cut his turn in line. Like a bus, another ride is just around the corner. That’s why never be in a position where you cannot walk away in 5min. Never procreate, cohabitate, never marry.
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 11:15 AM
2

Absolutely.
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 10:27 AM
8

Enjoy your cats. From 40 until dead you will be old, poor and powerless. Tuna!
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 01:38 AM
28

This sub is honest.
/r/MGTOW07/06/19 01:42 PM
24

Past the age of 30, women pay for me. They are thirsty. Below 25, I usually pay for coffee and get a shag out of it. Then it’s bye bye. Works for me.
/r/MGTOW05/06/19 11:01 PM
5

🤡 🌎
/r/MGTOW05/06/19 09:15 PM
29

I don’t hate women; I understand them and therefore cannot love them in a romantic context. Ideally, any relationship, with the exception of the care of a child, should involve both parties being free. Any adult relationship you should be able to walk away from in 5 min without attachments. This is why never procreate, never cohabitate, never marry.
/r/MGTOW05/06/19 12:04 PM
4

For me it was living as a minimalist. Plus making 6 figures a year in STEM. Plus investing in properties and making a few good stock market investments. This is not all liquid. The point is not the amount as I really don’t spend the money on toys or an extravagant lifestyle. My lifestyle is consistent with someone who makes maybe 35k a year. I invest the rest not out of greed for more but simply for something to do with the surplus. The point is that I have freedom to not do things I don’t want …
/r/MGTOW05/06/19 11:01 AM
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You are in your early 40s - a few years older than I. It’s insane the amount of has-beens that suddenly want to look you up. Unless it’s just as a short term relationship I would never consider a woman over 35. For a semi LTR, I like girls in their 20s. But like yourself, I will never marry, cohabitate or procreate. I was married once for 2 years. Never again. I got out with minimal damage. Fast forward 5 years later, I have paid off my house and have over 1.5million in assets. Why would I need …
/r/MGTOW05/06/19 12:08 AM
36

Very true. People major in worthless shit; tack on huge debt and expect life to somehow workout. Piss poor planning yields piss poor results. I was very lucky to attend university back in the late 90s to early 2000s; until the costs went vertical. I lived at home which dropped the cost further. Working FT and scholarships helped. I paid off all my student debt in 1 year (medical school debt). I was MGTOW (without knowing it) until the age of 27 when I had my first serious relationship. I am now …
/r/MGTOW04/06/19 11:50 PM
2

Enough with the man shaming already. Just because someone does not agree with your opinion or the opinion expressed in the article does not make them juvenile. If you don’t like it, unsubscribe from the reddit. I smell Tuna.
/r/MGTOW204/06/19 08:13 PM
1

So true! Woman try to destroy and dominate what they can’t control. This is the fundamentals to Game; if you are too needy or they think you are pinned down, they will resent the shit out of you. But, they will fuck your brains out. Kinda like cats, you chase them and they want nothing to do with you. You ignore them, and they are all over you. I don’t hate women, far from it. But once you understand their nature, you can’t love them either.
/r/MGTOW204/06/19 04:11 PM
10

Awesome! I love climbing and trekking. One of my favourite things to do! I use to get my high from bedding women; in my younger days. Now it’s mainly through solitude and the great outdoors.
/r/MGTOW04/06/19 03:04 PM
7

There are a few good women out there- even more rare today because they all ride the cock carousel and cannot pair bond. Yet, the risk of finding the good 6%, is not worth it. Especially when they can steal you past, present, and future financial well being. Feminism and the decentralization of the the sexual marketplace has destroyed any possibility of family’s like these being a reasonable expectation.
/r/MGTOW04/06/19 04:44 AM
1

Wife is threatened by your freedom. She thinks you will give your friend ideas about escaping the plantation. Nothing threatens a wife life an unmarried friend to their husband. They do one of the following; 1.) Marry him off. Plantation mates. 2.) Make the husband drop him (most likely) 3.) Have an affair with him. (if he’s unmarried he might have more resources to monkey branch with)
/r/MGTOW204/06/19 02:10 AM
36

Awesome! Absolutely awesome! Looks like a lot of melting.
/r/MGTOW04/06/19 01:45 AM
3

Very typical and sad story. The lyrics may change, but the song remains the same. Men need to get Red Pill knowledge out there. Save the next generation. I was extremely lucky to escape my short marriage with no kids. I had the fore cite for a prenup and the whole relationship cost me less than 15K (prenup, divorce and separation agreement, and less than 5k on a cheap wedding.) Now I casually date 20 somethings in my late 30s. Vasectomy so no unwanted children. Never marry Never cohabitate Never…
/r/MGTOW04/06/19 12:29 AM
5

Agreed. Poor choice of words. I consider all virtue signalling as whining and complaining.
/r/MGTOW03/06/19 02:26 PM
7

Just walk away. You owe her nothing. You are allowed, as a man, to begin and end a relationship when you feel like it. Don’t give her that power. No free rent in your head mate. Block her and move on .
/r/MGTOW03/06/19 02:14 PM
12

It’s called a simulation of the real world. Like anything, the content needs to be directed to an audience that is age appropriate. I would not let a young teen/child be exposed to its content as they do not have the maturity or framework to understand it. That being said, the real world is quite brutal. We live in a thin veneer of civilization. Catrina proves this. The goal of the publisher wanted to create a realistic and gritty simulation; the author complaining about it is pointless.
/r/MGTOW03/06/19 02:07 PM
2

Pick a vehicle that is practical and suits your lifestyle. Don’t worry about what “other old men”, as it were, are doing. (And I don’t think 45 is that old lol) For me: 1.) Low operating cost 2.) Reliable 3.) Practical 4.) Fun to drive. A light duty truck is always a good choice; for me at lesser. GYOW
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 11:03 PM
16

To spend all that time jumping through hoops for starfish sex? Fuck that noise. Hire a pro
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 09:28 PM
20

Unfortunately it’s biology. It’s very strong in our teens and 20s By 34 the big head starts to overcome the little head for this and have life’s experience and discover The Red Pill. By 40s sex is a take it or leave it proposition for most. But never sign away your autonomy. Never cohabitate Never Procreate Never Marry.
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 09:21 PM
153

She’s not yours; it’s just your turn.
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 03:25 PM
13

LMFAO All non essential fluff in the corporation while the one dude pulls the work plow.
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 03:11 PM
18

Most you can’t trust to be faithful when they are out of your sight while working for 8hrs. Being deployed for months or years it’s a virtual guarantee that they will cheat.
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 12:30 PM
8

Homosapiens are just animals that are able to contemplate, think, and have self awareness. As such, when the sexual marketplace has been deregulated, as it has in western society since the 60s, alongside the rise of the welfare state, women will follow their genetic imperative of fucking alphas (for evolutionary fit children) while extracting resources from beta men (providers). This is all enforced by the state. It only since the advent of DNA/Generic testing are we able to scientifically prove…
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 12:17 PM
2

If I was do it all over again; electrician is my bang for the buck.
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 06:39 PM
6

Until she says those magic words: “I’m not happy.” and you’re zeroed out in divorce court. I agree that you can associate with them, fuck them, and spend time with them. But, I am a firm believer that never get yourself in a position where you can’t walk away in 5 min. Therefore: Never procreate Never cohabitate Never marry.
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 12:36 PM
2

Wow, very insightful. Even if you are not religious it still gives you a glimpse into the insight of a woman’s nature.
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 12:33 PM
5

Wow! What a mega cuck. Someone will be buttering her tonsils while he watches her kids and paying for it all. Tragic.
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 03:03 AM
2

Like a hot dog down a hallway!
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 02:59 AM
2

You owe her nothing. Walk away. Cut all contact and never look back. Never get into a relationship that you can’t walk away from in 5min - therefore, never cohabitate, never procreate, never marry.
/r/MGTOW29/05/19 07:14 PM
21

Exactly! My record is 2.5 years with a chick that was 15 years younger than me (F22-25) before she realized I’d never commit and jumped on a looser. This is with a 4hr drive, out of state, between us. When they feel like you’d walk at any moment, they have a feeling of dread; the dread of being single. I did develop a case of the feels near the end; but it was more loosing access and realizing my turn was over then any longing. Loosing a good ride never feels good.
/r/MGTOW29/05/19 03:47 AM
1

That is a fantastic way of putting it- short, sweet and factual.
/r/MGTOW29/05/19 12:41 AM
9

Just woman’s nature. Treat them well and they don’t respect you. Treat them like crap and are indifferent they will love you until the better deal comes around. Either way, when the sexual marketplace is deregulated they will always look for the best deal. 80% of the women want to sleep with 20% of the guys until they are 32+ - then a beta provider is enough until it’s time to jump back on the carousel and divorce rape you. Fuck that noise
/r/MGTOW29/05/19 12:20 AM
7

With more mileage run through her than a super max cargo plane! Step up, step up. Pay full price for one that can’t pair bond and will divorce rape you at the drop of a hat.
/r/MGTOW28/05/19 09:29 PM
40

Excellent. I was married for 2 years before she monkey branched. No kids and no support. No property in common. Dodged a bullet; so did you. This is a gift. Never marry, cohabitate or procreate.
/r/MGTOW28/05/19 03:23 AM
10

Assuming that this example is true, this is exactly what feminism wanted. They have systematically removed men from the home. Men who could have taught his children respect and to be a productive member of society. But no. She don’t need a man, fish, bicycle. Where is her husband? Let me guess, she divorce raped him long ago. Now she has the audacity to complain. In today’s climate, he did the right thing.
/r/MGTOW27/05/19 10:55 PM
9

Sweet, I will pick it up. Thanks bro
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 11:07 PM
21

How is RDR2? Good game?
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 11:04 PM
3

Women can only offer: Sex < Domestic Companionship < Children. In today’s society, having children is insane. It’s essentially 25 years of slavery on the plantation. The children are often used as leverage against you also; emotional blackmail for cash and prizes. Domestic Companionship; get a dog or have relationshits but keep them under a year. Never consider cohabitation or marriage. I still date, and it’s nice to be intimate, until muffin does not get what she wants and then I remember why I…
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 06:58 PM
1

Agreed. It took me until I was 35 to dial in on this. You have to put you first; life is not like a fantasy where sacrificing yourself for a woman is noble.
/r/MGTOW25/05/19 01:48 PM
28

His penis, his choice.
/r/MGTOW25/05/19 01:07 PM
5

Wow an absolute dream!
/r/MGTOW24/05/19 10:27 PM
11

Cool. 😎 Nothing like a little sticky icky to entertain yourself with and chill with. Get that endocannabinoid system a workout!
/r/MGTOW24/05/19 10:00 PM
3

Uhhh pass the eye bleach! Fuck, no accounting for taste. All the Viagra in the world and she’d kill my boner.
/r/MGTOW24/05/19 09:54 PM
38

Well he’s firmly on the plantation now. Good luck to him; I honestly hope it works out. For his sake it better. He will be 2 kids deep by 27 and maybe 3-4 kids deep by 30. Assuming she’s the same age, by 30 she will be done being a house wife, and transition into a house hoe. Then it will be back on the carousel while claiming she’s a strong, independent, woman. He will be a slave until he’s at least 55. Assuming he does not try to wife up another. But I don’t blame him. He’s doing what society …
/r/MGTOW24/05/19 02:05 PM
15

I always took the story as a tongue in cheek storyline. Through a Red Pilled Lens you know what the natural progression of the relationship will be - The Big Bang Theory +7 years. Lenard is divorced with 2 kids, and Penny is back on the carousel. Lenard is in a basement apartment or living in his office. Penny is a strong and independent hero!
/r/MGTOW24/05/19 01:52 PM
12

Woman react and are poor serial decision makers. A girl I was dating decided to monkey branch to a recently divorce guy with 4 kids; subjecting herself to a life of abject poverty if she is dumb enough to have a kid with this idiot. When we met a few years ago I was 37 and she was 22. By comparison I make 6 figures and own a paid house. At 24 she got a case of baby rabies and decided she wanted to settle down; which she knew she’d never get from me. While I adore her as a person, she’s still an …
/r/MGTOW23/05/19 04:30 AM
5

Women can offer: 1.) Sex 2.) Domestic companionship/comfort 3.) Procreation. Prostitutes can provide 1 and maybe a bit of 2. Most men in the blue pill haze want 1/2/3. Classically men would marry despite prostitution being available. Yet modern day women are becoming so toxic 2/3 are off the table so you are left strictly with sex. Hence if we could list prostitution on the DOW as a futures contract, good way to make some cash. Ticker symbol HOE. 🤪
/r/MGTOW23/05/19 01:11 AM
1

Have NFG and enjoy the decline. Essentially stoicism for modern times.
/r/MGTOW23/05/19 01:06 AM
5

Anytime. Some of the shit women pull, even to an older guy like me (39) still takes my breath away in its absolute cold heartlessness. I have to remind myself often; “She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. “ And never expect any loyalty from them, under any circumstances.
/r/MGTOW22/05/19 05:29 AM
11

If that’s what you want to do - good for you! But make sure it’s your decision and not a response to shitty behaviour from a womenz. This is just the tip of the iceberg. They are capable of far, far worse. She ghosted you; as painful as that is. Now imagine her calling the cops on you or never seeing your kids again? When they are young, they have a sea of guys falling all over them. When they hit the Wall they end up Old Poor and Powerless. (OPP) Let Father Time do his magic.
/r/MGTOW22/05/19 05:19 AM
9

Agreed. A woman is not your friend, she is your romantic partner or colleague. (Excluding family members). The only rare exception being you grew up together and basically view each other like siblings. Society conditions men to view their love interest as lovers & friends. A Woman can only offer 1.) Sex 2.) Domestic companionship 3.) Procreation. Friendship is predicated on loyalty. Loyalty is a distinctly masculine trait. With woman you have to append everything they say with - “for now”. “You…
/r/MGTOW22/05/19 03:30 AM
4

You can understand them or love them; never both.
/r/MGTOW22/05/19 12:35 AM
2

Ok. Nice guilt trip at the end about how all the big bad men are treating you poorly. You just undermined everything you claim to be before that. You essentially want a government funded job, paid for mostly by men, to fix men issues. SJW and crazy leftists got us into this mess; it’s not going to fix it.
/r/MGTOW21/05/19 08:07 PM
6

If we allowed these strong, independent women, to fend for themselves their would be no judging - the greatest judgment of all, natural selection would take over. I’m So tired of the SJW cucks lecturing me. I judge no one unless I have to pay for it; which I do. I have to pay for all these serial bad decision makers.
/r/MGTOW21/05/19 07:12 PM
29

Amazing how those global truth are thousands of years old. Re-reading the bible, from a a Red Pill perspective, is jaw dropping. The ancients were wiser then we give them credit for.
/r/MGTOW21/05/19 05:53 AM
6

Emergency physician
/r/MGTOW21/05/19 02:58 AM
15

Women hold the keys to dating and sex; men hold the keys to marriage/LTR. Balance of power shifts when your older. By the time the women are 30+, they are desperate for kids and for a provider. If you want to fuck post wall or almost post wall, it’s easy and plentiful. Fucking 20 somethings as a 40+ male is harder but not impossible; especially if she’s gold digging and you don’t mind leading her on for a bit. But, you can cut out the middle person. Get a pro (where it’s legal), pay the 50-80€ f…
/r/MGTOW21/05/19 01:04 AM
11

I probably should in all honesty. I just like my piece and quiet. I have 2 spare bedrooms - maybe if I could find a few MGTOW flatmates. I get lots of time off for travel - I can take 1.5mo off continuous with vacation; the way I stack my emergency rotations on 12hr shifts.
/r/MGTOW21/05/19 12:53 AM
49

That’s my dream. Learn how to sail, buy a sail boat with some solar panels to recharge some electronics and sail the Caribbean. I’m 39 almost 40. My house is paid but I will continue until 55 when I pension out. I enjoy my career. Then it will be sailing.
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 11:07 PM
31

Exactly. I make contact and then ignore them. It works best in the 27-30 bracket because they are getting desperate to settle down. Less than 25 it’s more miss than hit but when you don’t care, even a 20% “success” rate is not bad. I had one chick bring me coffee today (7/10) - thirsty- and I’m average looking. But I own my own house and have a NFG attitude; they smell resources. All interactions are recorded, time and date stamped. Pence principle modified for the modern age.
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 10:59 PM
52

Always use 2 methods. Operational redundancy. -Condom + pull out method. (Used at the same time) I use triple (vasectomy) Never, ever trust these ladies. I don’t know how many women I’ve had beg me for a creampie; I just stop and say “I don’t consent to that”. That throws them into damage control mode. Always take the condom with you. Flush it or leave a decoy (new condom) filled with tap water.
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 07:11 PM
69

Good for you. Women get nothing from me. They can pay their own way in everything. I still casually date; minus a coffee nothing brings me more joy then asking for separate cheque’s. Wipes the smile off a 20 somethings face. One of two things happen - they are either pissed and sod off, or they are pissed and want to fuck you because you did not pussy pander. Either way you win.
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 06:50 PM
1

Thanks mate. Not so young anymore. Not looking forward to be 40.
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 03:17 AM
30

This is called a Reverse monkey branch or sling back. If her new relationship is not working out you’re a backup plan; she can never have enough orbiters for free validation and emotional tampons.
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 11:09 PM
9

Never, never bring sand to the beach. Always travel alone. Do what you want, when you want, how you want. NFG
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 10:18 PM
10

Yeah, the second you get any BS behaviour like that - adios. In today’s day and age, no woman will let her phone go dead - it’s way too important to her. Especially if this is a change in behaviour. It’s not so much the action, but the excuse making in conjunction with that action that indicates an issue. The only exception to dropping her is if she’s attractive + good in bed + otherwise low maintenance and she’s one of a few in a casual rotation. Then you have to judge when the juice is no long…
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 06:37 PM
23

Plan for both. Just from personal experience, I spin off about 5-10% of my “savings” as precious metal and prepping supplies. I stockpile food, water and medical supplies in my pantry. I’m 39, the plan is to have another pierce of property in the country purchased and paid off in the next 5 years. I have no debt, and own my house outright. I invest the rest. But, I enjoy life. I think this is key. To be prepare for a collapse but never travel, have responsible fun, interact etc just does not mak…
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 05:41 PM
9

Amen. She’s not yours; it’s just your turn.
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 05:28 PM
9

Beautiful! I’d rather be there then be in the bed of the most beautiful woman.
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 05:03 PM
1

I like coach Red Pills videos. Not all the advice works for me (no desire to get married or procreate) but I think he does have some good advice regarding goal setting and generally working on yourself. AWALT everywhere in the world. They have been since the dawn of time. Yet, it’s if society endorses or contains their destabilizing nature. Very few countries do.
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 05:01 PM
6

Very common practice. It’s called rewriting relationship history. It’s done to cast themselves as the victim and to gaslight you (making you feel like your the one going insane). I’ve had some whoppers over the years. 1.) “I only ever thought of you as a good friend.” (Married 2 years, 7 year total relationship) 2.) “I was never sure about my feeling for you” (Out comes instagram screen shots of “Most amazing man I ever met”, “he’s the best”, “ He makes me so happy”, blah, blah, blah. (2 year FW…
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 04:50 PM
3

Only thing I could add to this list is: 4.) Don’t let pleasing friends + family influence your decision (1-3). I know at 22 the need to fuck/party and please your parents (for some) is high. But, you have to follow your own path - it’s often hard and not glorious. Learn the most powerful word in the English language (No). I got lucky. Not because I’m smarter; just because I was lucky. I married for 2 year (no kids and no financial damage). I lucked out and fell into a lucrative profession (physi…
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 02:52 PM
3

I like your situation as well brother. Kids just never happened for me and I’m not about to seek them in this crazy world. 🤡🌎 That being said, I have nothing against guys who have a good relationship with their kids - it’s just a risk I’m not willing to take. That’s a good plan I have toyed with- boat and sail away. I pension out at 55 (16 years away) - (assuming the pension is still their) but have other assets to live on aside. Once we are aware of the issue and not in the blue pilled sleep yo…
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 05:55 PM
3

That’s the advantage of being single, no kids, and mobile. I live just outside a major metropolitan area but with access to forests + farmland. Besides my job and house, I have nothing tying me down. I can grow enough food on my 30x30 foot backyard to sustain myself + I have a 1800sq foot basement/bunker/tool shop/fabrication shop. Food/fuel/water for about a 1-2 years. When the whole thing goes down (5-10 years) I will be mid 40s to 50s. I should be able to survive long enough for things to rig…
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 03:14 PM
4

Agreed. How the collapse will come I do not know. But I can hazard a guess. It’s going to be a combination of a fiat currency crisis + a cultural crisis. When being a single mom on government subsidies makes you more than full time minimum wage work; we are in our bread and circus times. While the cause might be different, I think the literary work of The Stand gives us an idea of how things are going to turn out. Think Venezuela - most women are turning to prostitution to feed themselves; then …
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 02:48 PM
1

I do ok with women - but I’m no PUA. This is assuming I want anything to do with women; and outside the bedroom I don’t. I think the big thing with PUAs is the pedalizing of pussy - making it the end all and be all of their existence. If that time was focused into earning money, learning a trade, feathering your own nest, they be further off ahead and have something for the future. This is GYOW. I’m all about opportunity cost. In today’s society being in a LTR with a woman is financial and emoti…
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 02:00 PM
16

I wonder if the context was the same back then?!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 01:36 PM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 04:45 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 04:22 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 04:21 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 04:00 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 03:59 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 03:58 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 03:58 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 03:58 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 03:58 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 03:58 AM
1

Awesome! Who cares what a chick thinks. Not to gain homo-suspicion points (not that there is anything wrong with that), but there are attractive guys (in picture) that are walking off the lot and going Red Pill and MGTOW. That shows how bad things are with the womenz!
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 03:58 AM
5

She has that 1000 cock stare. He has a POW stare. Game over.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 02:01 PM
83

Could not have said it better myself. 3 min of fun, for 20-25 years of being trapped. Plus he will never be rid of her
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 03:28 AM
1

$15000/mo ?. I live on about $1000/mo. Being a minimalist rocks
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 03:26 AM
47

When you have no emotional attachment, while disgusting, it’s par for the course. The Wall will correct all.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 02:41 AM
17

Welcome! You have open Pandora’s box - you will either accept the reality of things (as bitter as it is) or you will run back to the plantation. With knowledge initially comes grief. You daily struggle to cast off the blue pill logic will either harden you or break you.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 12:22 AM
5

Amsterdam? - 50-80€ for a 18-22 year old in her prime. Legal, guaranteed performance and no drama. Higher chance of being cleaner too!
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 10:25 PM
2

There is no longer any place for a solid, strong, hardworking and honourable man in today’s western society. We no longer have the power to discipline and mould our children - if we have them. Thankfully I do not. That’s why I’ve basically walked off the lot. They can levy their taxes but outside of that they will get nothing from me.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 09:42 PM
9

Over the next decade, the social welfare state is going to be greatly reduced across US, Canada and Europe. Rising debt and a devalued currency will force this. The hay-day of the welfare queen is coming to an end. Having state dependent kids (hence a captive, liberal voting audience) has mostly played itself out. The bigger issue is that we have a boat load of children that are with no father figure, lazy, and dependent on the state for multiple generations. There are a lot of mouths to feed wi…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 05:16 PM
3

Ask her to go back to her parents for this “breather”. If she’s not on the lease/ownership it gives you more wiggle room. Once she’s out, change the locks. In Canada you are considered common law married. She could seek spousal support - hopefully she works. But she has to make a claim in court which cost money. If you don’t own the property, this is unlikely. Consult with a family lawyer if things don’t go well.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 04:48 PM
20

Agree 100%. I usually have to finish myself anyway to be honest; regardless of how hot the girl is. Plus I have to do all the work. Don’t get me wrong, I still crave sex and masturbation covers about 80% of the “itch”. But the hassle, risk, expense, time etc, from a cost/benefit standpoint - it’s just not worth it. If I need the real thing - board a cheap flight to Amsterdam and I can satisfy my craving. Especially since I don’t want kids and am quite fine living by myself. For me, in my younger…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 04:40 PM
10

We are essentially the same age. It’s not a dream, it a mirage that was sold to us back in the 80s. It does not exist anymore - on multiple levels. Assuming it ever did; marriage has never been a treat. Firstly, the price of housing in North America, relative to the average wage, makes home ownership tricky. Add to this a leach (wife) and kids - you are truly on the plantation. Second, no woman is worth being a slave for life. See a pro or keep it casual through dating. Never marry, cohabitate, …
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:50 AM
9

Damn man! Living the dream. With cellphone technology and wireless internet you are never alone as long as you are in cellular range. Good for you. I love Central/South America. I pension out at 55 (another 16 years) but the plan is to be nomadic like yourself.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:31 AM
41

🤡🌎
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:25 AM
41

Or never marry, cohabitate or procreate and you can drive the Shelby (paid for in cash) with a chick 25 years younger for nightly entertainment. 😂
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 02:54 AM
6

Fuck her. If it’s not court mandated she gets nothing. I just get so tired of the wemenzzz claiming they are so strong and independent but then expect everyone else to pickup the check. Tell her to pound sand. PS: This shit really pisses me off. I’ve never paid a dime in support to anyone for anything. Yet I can totally appreciate being placed in this predicament.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 02:38 AM
4

Back on the carousel for her. Guaranteed she feels justified because he was away and travelling so much - but has no problem grabbing the support. If he can’t make it work, what makes you think you can make it work. Walk off the lot!
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 12:52 AM
3

Going to install my own patio this week, in my own house, totally paid off by my own labour. Then I’m going to smoke one.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 12:46 AM
8

Awesome! Looks good. Just drink plenty of water!
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 12:33 AM
1

Pure gold!
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 11:25 PM
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Very well put. I can still develop a case of the lust based feels. But I recognize it for what it is. It’s just biology. I understand women and hence cannot trust them long term in today’s society. In any relationship they go through the stages of idealization — devaluation— discard. I recognize the idealization and the lovebombing for what it is: you are “awesome”, “the best thing that ever happened to me”, “love of my life”, “make me so happy” blah blah blah. It’s just how they manipulate + se…
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 09:16 PM
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Until they need us to protect them. I have a long memory. I will be popping some pop corn and watching the show as it all goes down the tubes.
/r/MGTOW14/05/19 08:20 PM
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So true. Absolutely no one gets out of life alive. As I grow older (almost 40), I realize that any all consuming desire will rob you of your most important gift. Time. Time is best spent on introspection and personal growth. Not chasing sex. While it’s true all growth will be swiped clean on our deaths if anything has the chance of surviving beyond the veil its experiences. Sex is an experience but a single one at that; the vehicle it’s usually delivered in is a relationship. This is one of many…
/r/MGTOW14/05/19 07:16 PM
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He’s thirsty. It’s a head shot only - I’ve seen uglier by far but far from the best. She’s likely your average 5/10. (6max) Again he makes the classic mistake of thinking their is something special or unique about her. She just said yes. She’s one of 7.9 billion people on this planet. Put that pussy on a pedestal syndrome. She will despise him for it sooner or later; after the divorce raping. Another likely victim.
/r/MGTOW14/05/19 06:24 PM
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10+ years so she’s good for a lifetime of spousal maintenance in most states if she does not work. This boys, is my generation. Trash. The next generation (generation Z) will be more of the same. I’m basically done with relationships at this point. Hire pros.
/r/MGTOW14/05/19 04:45 AM
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A girls home-life growing up is a huge indicator of the problems you’d likely encounter. 1.) Divorced parents 2.) Raised by extended family 3.) History of drug or alcohol use. 4.)Any therapy history 5.) High cock count 6.) older than 25 7.) Multiple piercings or tattoos (does not apply to men) 8.) Any Psychiatric history. 9.) Referring to Pets as furr babies. All of these disqualify her from even having the potential of being a LTR. You still never cohabitate, marry or have kids - but with any o…
/r/MGTOW14/05/19 04:17 AM
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I just have to look back on my old relationshits. I write a log at the end of every day - I find it very introspective. These logs are on computer and go back well over a decade. When I was with a gf I’d log interactions, behaviour, and statements in bullet form. It is very helpful for when I get those “nostalgic feelings” which are obviously not accurate. I can relieve a contemporaneous account stonewalling, gaslighting, veiled comments that meant nothing in the moment but would add context lat…
/r/MGTOW13/05/19 07:42 PM
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Smart man. While it lasts is the key statement. Remember: 1.) She’s not yours, it just your turn. 2.) The easier you are to manipulate, the more interested she will be in the short turn. Funny story. I was banging this girl that was 15 (F22-24) years younger than me for about 2 years. We met while travelling and started a physical relationship less than a day after meeting. It lasted 2 years until she went after a guy with 4 kids. She’s almost engaged 3 months after the split. Why? Because she c…
/r/MGTOW13/05/19 07:25 PM
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She rates high on the narcism meter! So many parallels between statements she made and those of one of my ex FWB/LTR. They view relationships strictly in how it effects the hamster in the moment. It’s the thrill, the drama, the sex, the tingles. When she’s bored of the fling she will destroy DJ and his marriage. It will be #Metoo, a corporate lawsuit, destroy DJ marriage, and claim the victim to try and save her own if she decides that’s the branch she wants to perch on for the time being.
/r/MGTOW13/05/19 06:01 AM
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Agreed. I am almost 40 and to old to jump through hoops. Too much water has passed under the bridge for that. I can’t go back to the plantation. Or a flight to Amsterdam and 50-80€ with a 19-22 year old. Probably less dangerous than your standard tinder thot. Flashlight + Porn scratches 90% of the itch.
/r/MGTOW13/05/19 02:40 AM
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No issues brother! Do your research and make sure you consult a family lawyer that specializes in this issue. I don’t hate women either - I’ve been the beta blue chump in my younger years and never will again. I like sex - but that’s about it. I don’t have trouble with women but I won’t commit. I made the mistake of a short marriage once. Lucky no kids or support. When you break it down, as indicated above, life becomes oh so easy. Here is another one. For guys that worry about sex - sex is comm…
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 11:53 PM
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I learned this lesson well when I was younger. Put effort into a chick and she will resent your ass. Show a bit of interest and then passive indifference and your much more likely to be banging her. I met a 22 years old (I was 37 at the time) while vacationing. Chatted a little and ignored her. 2 days later she was my bed mate. We happened to live close by each other. We continued banging until she was 24. I gave her next to nothing and dictated the relationship on my terms for the most part. I …
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 08:44 PM
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Lol. Awesome.
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 06:12 PM
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AWALT 1.) She’s not yours it’s just your turn 2.) AWALT 3.) Past deeds/experiences/money spent/sacrifices has no bearing on future association. (What have you done lately for me)
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 06:07 PM
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All women can offer is Sex < domestic comfort < children. Which can substituted by: Pro< friends + family < surrogate\niece&nephew. Life hacked. Keep all your resources and save tons of time.
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 06:04 PM
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If you hire a pro, best if it’s anonymous. She does not know where you live or your name. I recommend Amsterdam/Germany. It’s legal, it’s regulated, and it’s cheap relative to dating. Once the deed is done you are one of many customers that day. Of course there is always the risk of an STI. But, this is less due to condom adherence and regular checkups to stay licensed. Can’t say that about the standard Tinder Thot.
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 06:00 PM
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From a 10000 foot view; essentially yes. The timeline and effort might vary but this is the reason 55+% of marriages end in divorce and 80% of those are ended by the woman. This does not include cohabitation relationships- the total number of relationships lasting for a lifetime I would put at less than 10%. The chance of misery is 100%. I think we all have to face the facts, that in our relative time of safety, plenty, and daddy government, marriage holds no purpose except to transfer wealth. S…
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 07:47 AM
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This is your default position now a days. Keep them interested by putting them last and throwing them “the bone” when it works for you. Otherwise go out with your mates and keep your hobbies - squeeze her in when it works. She very well might leave, but with a NFG attitude she is more likely to stay then being a simp. I’m guilty of coping feelings, but easy come, easy go.
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 09:03 PM
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I don’t know how many relationships I’ve had that have ended with the woman refusing to talk and claiming “they are horrible communicators”. Yet, they never shut up in the relationship. This is just an attempt to gaslight - the implication being you did something wrong otherwise they would be happy and you’d be able to anticipate their needs. Fuck that noise.
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 08:58 PM
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Agreed. Women have always been women. Look at the Bible. Today, men just have no say in relationships, their marital assets, and society at large. 🤡 🌎
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 04:39 PM
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Without sex they have no bait for the hook to get you on the plantation and keep you there. That would mean they would have to provide and fend for themselves. That’s the irony of feminism. They claim they don’t need a man; but deep down they know they do. Evolution dictates that women’s surplus sex is traded for men’s surplus resources.
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 12:20 PM
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That book will be banned soon. Someone is going to be triggered. Lol
/r/MGTOW10/05/19 11:41 PM
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One chance, once per lifetime. Inscribe it on your grave - never forget it.
/r/MGTOW10/05/19 07:43 PM
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I am human, and their is an element of wanting to extract revenge. I won’t, but the temptation is there. The inner simp is on death row- 35 years of programming and its only been 5 years since I woke up. With the little hottie, I was respectful but took none of her shit once no contact was dropped. I laid it out for her in our last communication hoping she’d have a moment of introspection (not looking to save the relationship) - highly unlikely. I’m sure that blew a few gaskets as Narcs don’t li…
/r/MGTOW10/05/19 05:49 PM
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While the details differ, your situation mirrors all my relationships - both my brief marriage(same age) (2 married, 7 total) and my 2 year FWB (15 years younger) turned LTR(last +-6mo). I’m in my late 30s; these relationships span the last 12 years of my life and the demographics of both same age and younger women. The result is the same cross generational - AWALT. I’m going to hazard a not so wild guess that your relationship went thought the following - an article I wrote after the FWB broke …
/r/MGTOW10/05/19 01:09 PM
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Simply epic! Mandatory reading
/r/MGTOW10/05/19 04:03 AM
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Always, always assume they are lying when they say they are on the pill. Always use a condom. If she refuses then simply turn down sex. I’ve had this happen before - get ready for a hostile reaction; it’s still better than baby jail. You have to treat your load like it’s radioactive material - don’t leave it lying around. Take the condom with you or flush it. That way their is no chance of sperm jacking. I’d rather pay a plumbers bill in the unlikely event of a plug then 18-25 years of child sup…
/r/MGTOW10/05/19 03:02 AM
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Condom + vasectomy. For STD in the first case, and no baby jail in the second case.
/r/MGTOW09/05/19 09:53 PM
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It’s active because men are waking up to the huge imbalance their is in society. Three generations of divorce rape, toxic masculinity, #metoo, men having essentially no parental rights, the hook up culture, rampant single motherhood - the list goes on and on. Minus being a resource generator, men have no respect and no place in society. This is why The Red Pill and MGTOW exists. Not by choice for most, but by necessity. When 50% of the population has no place, things cannot continue. Sooner or l…
/r/MGTOW09/05/19 09:38 PM
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Society brainwashing is a powerful tool. When animated cartoons from the cradle puts pussy on a pedestal - uphill battle. Plus I’m late 30s; 20 years ago this info was not common knowledge,
/r/MGTOW09/05/19 06:48 PM
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Patent pending! Lol Thanks mate!
/r/MGTOW09/05/19 03:46 PM
2

You live long enough, hopefully you learn some things!
/r/MGTOW09/05/19 03:41 PM
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I’m a firm believer Red Pill is all theory until you get burned. The vast majority of men need to learn from their own mistakes. Making mistakes is fine- it’s how we learn. Just don’t make the core mistakes: 1.) Never marry 2.) Never procreate 3.) Never Cohabitate Interacting with women just proves the validity of Red Pill logic.
/r/MGTOW09/05/19 01:14 PM
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Been there and have the t-shirt. I lost next to nothing financially; but a 7 year relationship (2 married). Cheated on me with some deadbeat from work. Then I became involved with a FWB turned LTR for about 2 years. She was 15 years younger(I’m almost 40). She monkey branched downwards to a guy that’s barely divorce with 4kids under 5. While I was Red Pill for this relationship she was so over the top in her affections that it eventually wore me down. Caught a case of the feels not so much for h…
/r/MGTOW09/05/19 03:20 AM
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I agree with you - for the most part. I don’t hate women; once you realize the game and their programming their actions are predictable. Just don’t sign a cheque against it and enjoy the ride. Modern society has liberated them to follow their basic instincts while we pickup the tab. In the personal example I cited above, I basically plotted out the trajectory of the relationship before it began. From idealization, to devaluation, to discard and the new guy being firmly in place during the devalu…
/r/MGTOW209/05/19 02:40 AM
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AWALT
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 10:32 PM
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Single motherhood is almost 50% in the US; last time I read a stat. It is likely higher depending on how they word the question. My guess is that governments in the future will have a single without children tax - levelled at men. The system has to stay afloat. Motherhood has become big business. People have absolutely no concern for putting food on the table or providing the necessities of life; due to big daddy government. From personal experience, I was in a FWB/LTR relationship with a chick …
/r/MGTOW208/05/19 10:20 PM
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Another artificial way of forced society “stabilization”. The state can not afford to pay for all these children; so if a woman names you as dad your going to have to jump through legal hoops to prove your not the father. I’m sure there is a back door method to get a paternity test and contest the paternity of the child in question. It just that it will not be an automatic right to order one. Contesting the system costs lawyers and money. Average Joe public won’t be able too and have to suck up …
/r/MGTOW208/05/19 09:22 PM
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Amen. Emergency Physician here as well. BPD is off the charts among younger, attractive females in the medical sector. Don’t shit where you eat
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 02:31 PM
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Honestly nothing wrong with this setup. Roof over your head - maybe a more comfortable bed and a tv is all that needed. Spartan yes, but do you honestly need more? I own my own paid 5 bedroom, 3 washroom house. It’s just me. It’s a waste. But I have to put my cash somewhere and I have friends over frequently in the spare bedrooms. I do a little AirBnB too. It pays my property tax. I digress. I’d be just as happy with this setup. When you don’t have kids, and are not trying to impress a woman, a …
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 01:32 PM
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😝
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 03:42 AM
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Attention seeking. Move along.
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 03:38 AM
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Agreed. Men are raised that you are on your own and must make your own way in life. Women have multiple options. They can work and spend everything they make. Or They can marry and get someone else to support them and bail them out of debt. I’d rather be male because at least I can captain my own ship. If the need strikes me, I can go to Amsterdam.
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 03:26 AM
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Be careful not to get a virus.
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 03:19 AM
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Could panhandle and make more
/r/MGTOW07/05/19 08:43 PM
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Absolutely insane. This is tantamount to slavery
/r/MGTOW07/05/19 08:43 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/b8ajw5/typical_relationship_progression_of_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app I outlined the phases in a relationship. They all are!
/r/MGTOW07/05/19 03:56 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/bc7lo4/briffault_laws_provide_clarity_on_the_current/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app All of this is based off of others; much more learned then I. It sucks, and you wish to fuck that it was not like that, but it’s just their nature. Unless society enforces loyalty via the marriage contract before no fault divorce, they follow their true nature. Every woman if ever been in a relationship with; will give you token help but expect everything in return. Y…
/r/MGTOW07/05/19 03:31 PM
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Free government handouts allow women to “follow their hearts”. Therefore 80% of the women chase 20% of the guys. Ages past, in their 20s, they wanted to meet a provider. Now that is not until late 30s when they want them. By this point they are either single mothers or high mileage with tons of issues. Temp diversions only.
/r/MGTOW07/05/19 03:16 PM
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That’s a succinct way of summarizing female nature. I will need to remember it! “Woman are not concerned about the race, but are at the finish line to sleep with the winner!” Add this too: “She’s not yours, it’s just your turn.” And “Deeds rendered in the past have no bearing on continued future association” And you have Woman’s nature encapsulated. GYOW
/r/MGTOW07/05/19 12:12 PM
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All relationships have an expiry date. Like you know: She’s not yours, it just your turn. Now it’s time for Pedro/Paulo to have his.
/r/MGTOW06/05/19 10:56 PM
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Being a single woman, less than 30, and 7+/10 is easy. Being a single woman >30, <40 and 7+/10 is Hard All other age/stage combinations, when female and single > 40 is Super Veteran hard mode. Plus add cats. Old, poor and powerless.
/r/MGTOW06/05/19 05:07 PM
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Happens to the best of us. Despite what the programming says, they are just temporary diversion. Never again let yourself get in a position where you can’t walk away, no strings attached, in 5 min. Therefore, never procreate, cohabitate, or marry. She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. AWALT!
/r/MGTOW06/05/19 04:14 PM
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Never procreate, cohabitate or marry. I agree, the kid is Chad/Tyrone’s. He just a paycheque. Hence the aversion. Shit, if she’s attracted to you, she still horny and will be happy with some fucking or giving you a BJ,
/r/MGTOW06/05/19 02:57 PM
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She’s not yours; it’s just your turn. All women are like that. Never procreate, cohabitate or marry. At least you did not sign a cheque against this shit. Enjoy them for the body. Do not ever expect any loyalty.
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 09:28 PM
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Hahaha 😃
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 05:51 PM
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A turd on the trash heap of history.
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 05:47 PM
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Honest about the cost at least. Guaranteed performance. But only indulge where it’s legal. Way too expensive though. Board a cheap midweek flight to Amsterdam and you can get “the works” for under €80.
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 05:43 PM
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It’s a little different when you’re married; I should have been more specific and stated single women. She thought she had you locked down and was trying to cuck you. Worse case divorce for cash and prizes. Mine did the same at 36. Dropped her ass quicker than a bad habit. I had a prenup, with no kids and a short <2 year marriage. She got nothing but legal fees. Now I bang 22-28year old (almost 40 myself)
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 05:37 AM
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Could not agree more. Social media has kicked the bipolar aspect of all women’s personalities into overdrive. One disagreement and they are gone to the next dick if they are less than 30. But I hijack the programming. When you’ve had your fun just do something small and she will leave on her own accord.
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 02:48 AM
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To the OP; That’s awesome. I’m a big believer in that most men have to get burned by the fire bush to truly understand the Red Pill. The programming is too strong unless you have first hand knowledge of what women are like. You can only learn so much from others mistakes. They usually come back. Not always, but usually. Especially if you are a guy of quality with $£¥. It’s amazing that once they are 35+ you suddenly get good behaviour out of them. It’s an act, but it’s their last chance to land …
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 02:38 AM
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Situations like this happen when a legal agreement is not in play, crafted by both parties, with independent legal representation, at the termination of the relationship. Anything can be contested/sued at any time. Yet, when the claim is absurd, legal costs can be recovered. Generally speaking, and I’m not dispensing legal advice, if children are not involved, the divorce settlement is the divorce settlement
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 07:00 PM
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What a beautiful space. With modern internet and wireless communications via satellite internet access, you can be in that cabin, in the woods, yet still stay connected with limited friends and family. Best of both worlds. Something like this might be my next piece of property.
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 06:48 PM
2

Love is a state of mind.
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 12:05 AM
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One of the most entertaining and truth bomb filled channels out there. He was my initial journey on the Red Pill. His videos literally save me after my divorce.
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 11:43 PM
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Fuck her. She’s Old Poor and Powerless. (OPP) Warn your son to not let mommy dearest drag him down.
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 10:27 PM
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AWALT. She’s not yours; it’s just your turn.
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 08:06 PM
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A little trim, nothing more. Once you never marry, cohabitate, or procreate you are just socializing. Don’t give her free rent in your head and go about your life. AWALT She’s not yours, it’s just your turn.
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 05:32 PM
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Element of truth in this! If you are going to date, you have to play by their rules. You owe them nothing. The balance of power is in your hands until you sign that contract, live together or procreate. Never be in a relationship that you can’t walk away from in 5 min flat. Do what you want, when you want, how you want.
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 04:06 AM
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Same thing in a sexual relationship. All kind and sweet and the second they don’t get what they want, if you are told what that is or otherwise, they get into a huff and turn hostile. I wouldn’t live with one, even in a roommate capacity. Too much drama and risk. If you decide to date, keep it short, always use protection, and dump the relationship in 6 mo Max.
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 03:55 AM
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Thanks mate. Hopefully others can learn. It’s a long read and seems to be accurate. Cheers
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 10:21 PM
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New to Reddit. I’m not sure how that works. I just want younger guys to learn what I’ve experienced and hopefully prevent them for making the same mistakes. This is all part of “therapy” I guess and I find it cathartic.
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 10:20 PM
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Very good point. Enough years have not passed yet. My longest disembarkation date is post 5 years.
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 10:18 PM
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I live alone and love it. I just can’t stand having someone in my personal space for too long. Even when the last gf would come over for a weekend every 4 weeks; I could not wait until she left. I’m out of my house more than I’m in it. I have friends, work and social activities. There is truly a difference between being alone and being lonely.
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 01:27 PM
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Wow brother. This mirrors many of my posts and experiences. Especially the false flattery and statements that are identical from guy to guy. Today, it’s played out on Instagram. I have side by side screen shots of over the top affectionate statements that were then being said to the next guy within a week of her going no contact. It’s just par for the course with women. Manipulation in a word. I inadvertently developed some feeling for my little shit (FWB/LTR)- she was almost 16 years younger. I…
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 01:10 PM
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Awesome. Beautiful picture!
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 12:47 AM
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Universal Law of Women: 1.) She’s not yours, it just your turn. 2.) All women are like that. AWALT 3.) Briffaults laws at work. Link below. https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/bc7lo4/briffault_laws_provide_clarity_on_the_current/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 09:15 PM
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Because female companionship can be purchased with a good bank balance! Women offer sex, domestic companionship and children. Sex can be bought (Amsterdam), as can domestic companionship (cooking, cleaning, and conversation), and children are available through adoption, surrogacy and spending time with the niece and nephew. Now that I think of it, relationships are meant for the unwashed masses to obtain these things in part because they cannot purchase it for themselves. Elites only got married…
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 06:50 PM
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I’d stay away from the live in single mom’s. Too much drama and maybe a false accusation or common law claim. I have given this some thought and this works for me; your situation might differ. I’m almost 40 and live in a 5 bedroom 3 washroom home in a major metropolitan area. I have a niece/nephew under 5. No kids of my own. While I plan to be healthy for the next 30+ years; you never know what life can bring. I’m super active and athletic, but I don’t feel as strong as I did in my 20/early 30s.…
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 01:03 PM
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Pressure cooker - just throw in the ingredients. Roasted Chicken (already cooked from Walmart or grocery store) + frozen vegetables. Slight markup because already cooked but convenient. Slow cooker - great for chilli.
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 12:45 PM
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They always turn into nagging bitches that manipulate and gaslight. Take it from someone who has been married. I’m twice your age and have dated women older and 15 years younger over my life. They are all the same. At 19, I would not expect you to be Red Pill - it’s too young to totally give up on relationships. Just don’t marry/cohabitate/ have children. When you have experienced the fact that all women are the same, and temporary diversions, you will understand. But it is knowledge that needs …
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 02:58 AM
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Awesome man! I hiked in South America for 4 weeks last year! It was so awesome. Could have never done that with a gf. In fact, it was a contributing factor in loosing my last LTR. She was great in bed (and 15 years younger), and I miss that, but the sights I saw I will take to my grave. Never let slot C prevent you from doing what you love.
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 02:11 AM
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Nope. No fault divorce. Prenuptial are easily overturned. Especially with kids or long marriages
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 01:49 AM
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Yes he did. Based off of Briffault Laws. https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/bc7lo4/briffault_laws_provide_clarity_on_the_current/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 12:31 AM
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I feel for the guy. I think we have all been here in our younger days. To a lessor and greater extent. But he has to realize that this is super beta behaviour. Women do not respond to needy and pedalization of the pussy.
/r/MGTOW30/04/19 11:28 PM
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I work in a very high divorce profession. Every single man that I have spoke too, that has been married >10years states that they would never do it again. These are blue pill guys; and they recognize how toxic females are today. They are stuck, and buy into the sunk cost fallacy; which is a mistake. Time too short to be a slave - freedom is worth it no matter the cost.
/r/MGTOW30/04/19 07:35 PM
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Women are women - they have been since the dawn of time. Nothing new today except society makes them more toxic and you have to accept the fact, as hard as it sometimes is, they weave an illusion that makes you believe they care about you. They only care about what you can do for them. Hard to accept, but the truth. They are temporary diversions to bring a little distraction to your life. Never get yourself into a situation that you cannot make a clean break in 5min. (No marriage, no cohabitatio…
/r/MGTOW30/04/19 05:23 PM
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I rarely paid minus a coffee (except when I was inexperienced in my 20s). Since my early 30s after my divorce; minus a small thing like parking if I’m driving, I never paid their way. Honestly, they seem to respect you more. This is excluding the 9+/10 - these women are not even worth casually dating. Hire a pro for this experience. I tend to like the sporty 7/10 range (24-32 bracket). When you give the vibe that you could careless about sex, it fucks with the hamster and they are eager to pleas…
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 03:02 PM
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Yes, everything has an age and a phase. While getting a 22 year old is rarer, the 25-32+ bracket is all over me. Over 32, unless she’s smoking, I’m just not interested in. I work near a university that is on my transit route. I look about 10 years younger then i am. I tend to be meeting up with a new chick for coffee once a week. This means one new girl in my bed once a month on average. Eventually you reach the point where you just don’t care anymore. Lol As a side note to younger guys. Dating …
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 01:26 PM
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Very true. Once you progressively let go of the programming : marriage + kids, dating, conquest of younger women(still working on this one), life becomes less stressful. I enjoy my work. I enjoy my time off. Napping, reading. No woman to make plans for me. No woman to fuck up my time off. I set myself a goal of learning a new skill every 6mo. Just because. I’m now tackling welding. I’m almost 40. With any luck I will have 15 years of semi retirement and 25 years of full retirement. When the urge…
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 02:28 AM
15

It’s just that you are truly living with the boot of your wife on your neck; enforced by the full weight of the government. You could be the best husband in the world during your tradcon relationship. But all she has to do is simply state : “I’m not happy” and that’s it. Crippling child support + spousal support while you fight for basic lodgings and food. Your kids will be turned against you. It’s just not worth the risk for a few years (<10) of “bliss”.
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 01:21 AM
9

Every time I’ve travelled with a gf/wife/FWB it’s been horrible. The first 2-3 days are always a passive aggressive display that puts you on edge. For them it’s all about power dynamics. No sex for the first 2 days for some BS reason and then they suddenly turn on the charm the last few days - but it always feels forced and phoney. Within 4-6mo of any vacation I’ve taken, they usually monkey-branch. Lucky I always make them pay their way. I love travelling alone. Never bring sand to the beach.
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 11:53 PM
1

Depending on how much you see the person 12-24 months is the honeymoon period in any relationship. Ride that wave, don’t cohabitate or marry or have children. Rinse and repeat until you are too old to care. I’m almost 40 and I’m basically at that stage. I like sex still and the mild ego boost from banging a girl 15+ years younger, but it’s all temporary.
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 11:43 PM
2

Lucky both of my ex’s did not have access to my house. All they could do was gaslight me. That is a really shitty thing to do. For them it’s all about maximum carnage. Take the evidence and file a restraining order with the police. She will be back.
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 11:27 PM
2

She’s getting pounded by Chad or Tyrone. Attractive chicks don’t use tinder for hook-ups; they have a Rolodex of guys that they call. This is all about free attention when Chad is being Chad and treating her like the sex toy she wants to be treated like.
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 11:23 PM
2

Exactly. Spend a week in Amsterdam. You can go through 10 hot women for less than $1000 for their services. Legal and as safe as dating - likely safer.
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 02:22 PM
2

Been there, have the t-shirt. I thought I had a NAWALT (Everyone does) until she monkey branched about 5 years ago (6 year relationship, 2 years married, no kids, no divorce rape). Later I had a FWB 16 years younger for 2 years (absolutely idealized me; until she didn’t) - cool until she wasn’t and she became toxic. Great sex; absolute hoe in bed - I miss that. They have always been like this; since the dawn of time. Society kept them in check - now it condones this behaviour. You just have to c…
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 02:28 AM
3

Exactly. I did not date seriously before about 28. Made the mistake of having a short marriage with no kids.(took a small hit) I’m almost 40 and have a net worth almost 1million. Just through living a frugal lifestyle. I bank 50% what I earn and buy good quality investment. Women are temp diversions. Date young, keep it less than 6mo so no feeling develop and move on. Let your net work grow and grow
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 01:07 AM
9

It’s definitely enticing to watch them by a pool, in their skimpy bikinis; boozing it up and having the local Chad or Tyrone take them back to his room and run 5miles of pipe 6 “ at a time. While I’m no Chad, I’ve been there and done that. Hoe’s can be fun for a weekend, on vacation, under an assumed name. They will always be available. The professional variety is just less drama and down to business with guaranteed results. While I’m not a bible thumper, I believe that the biblical tale of Sodo…
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 01:02 AM
4

Same brother. 2 years FWB turned LTR; 16 years younger. 5 tats and nipple piercings. Great in bed. Up for anything. Circus in the head centre of the bed is all she could offer.
/r/MGTOW26/04/19 05:32 PM
12

In a women, tattoos and piercings (nipples, belly button, nose and multi ears) signifies impulsiveness and cluster B personality traits. Good chance of depression/manic history. They will be crazy in bed, and crazy in general. Expect a history of poor life decision; what I call serial bad decision makers. High chance of being single moms or future single moms. They will be good for a easy lay; but be ready to cut/sling/load in 5 min. Wear a condom and take it with you. Also cover your six and ca…
/r/MGTOW26/04/19 10:44 AM
5

I actually treat them very well. I don’t pussy pander but I treat them like the adults they are suppose to be. No gifts, no expensive dinners. Drama free zone. I usually get some version of : “ You treat me so well, I hate myself” or “ I don’t deserve you”. It’s all BS but with a kernel of honesty. The hamster then immediately goes into a cross-wire and they jump on some total scuzbags member and either get pregnant or married within 6 mos. The girl I was banging from 22-24(her age), monkey bran…
/r/MGTOW25/04/19 10:19 AM
3

The Wall - No negotiations, no reprieve, no prisoners.
/r/MGTOW25/04/19 01:20 AM
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I’d rather be dead then go back on the plantation. A slave is a slave no matter how guilted the bars of the cage are. I was young and dumb - 2 years married (6 years of relationship). It was from 26-32. It took me 2 years post divorce to get my head out of my ass. Found the Red Pill. Never again. I still “date” 20 somethings but I set firm and inflexible boundaries. Good thing is within 6mo they usually walk or monkey branch. Rinse and repeat until I get too old to fuck.
/r/MGTOW25/04/19 01:15 AM
2

Instagram just gives you a window into what was said to their girlfriends + frienemies in years past. It’s a way of gloating, boasting, and establishing a women’s pecking order. It’s a way of stroking their egos and it’s like crack. Instant validation, instant gratification and instant manipulation of their target/boyfriend. Narcissism in short. You are idealized(you are the greatest posts), then devalued (when the posts start disappearing - with no explanation and hot/cold behaviour in real lif…
/r/MGTOW25/04/19 12:47 AM
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100% agree. Social media has turned every female into a narcissist on steroids. They have always had cluster b traits to a greater or lesser extent. But the Instagram generation is clearly super narcissistic (<30). Without Doxing myself, I dating a chick when she was 22-24. Her Instagram posts were - “best boyfriend”, “most awesome man I ever met”, “so happy”, “ So thankful to have him in my life”. Enter money branch new dude and within 2 weeks literally same cut and past phrases. I could do a s…
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 10:30 AM
11

Very good life lesson. When you enjoy your own company you are rarely lonely. Always add value to your life.
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 02:12 AM
24

I’m a very old millennial (or a very young generation X) - late 30s on the cusp between both generations. Over my life, I have dated women from both the generation X (2 years older in my 20s) and millennials(16 years younger in my 30s). While the millennials are more addicted to social media, they are ALL the same. Truly, the lyrics change but the song remains the same. You date one women, you’ve dated them all. Some might have tattoos, nipple piercings, A cups, 36L cups, spit or swallow. It’s j…
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 01:26 AM
1

Zeno of Citium is the known origin of the philosophy, but Marcus Aurelius lived by it even when he had every advantage as an emperor to live a life of debauchery. I find it very helpful in accepting my fate (whatever it may be). I’m an ER physician and have found it very helpful when dealing with the stress of death every day. I also find it helpful with setting personal goals for the sake of the goal itself. The wild thing to get my head around is if there is nothing beyond the mortal curtain, …
/r/MGTOW23/04/19 10:21 PM
1

The perceiving a woman to be in pain, and riding to the rescue, is a protector instinct. This is the sign of a quality man. I’m very similar. I did not develop any feelings for the ex mentioned above (great sex for well over a year) until one of her parents passed away. Then the protector instinct (captain save a hoe) kicked in and some feels developed. That’s my kyroponite and it’s totally genetic.
/r/MGTOW23/04/19 01:09 PM
1

Holy shit, good insight. I’m no Brad Pitt, but I’m 6’1”, muscular/athletic and decent looking (7/10). I’m nearing 40 and look 30ish. I make 6figures, and have a high degree of education. I guess I’d consider myself kinda Alpha (+-). From all historical standpoints I’d be an awesome catch. You might be right. They resent the crap out of you if you’re better then them. How messed up is that? 1.) Control. If your hotter then they are, when their looks go or they let themselves go, you will leave th…
/r/MGTOW23/04/19 04:10 AM
1

Even worse is that she’s dreaming about engagement rings! (referring to the ex above)Her Pinterest feed is full of rings. Even if you account for some overlap until she monkey branched they maybe have been seeing each other 2-3mo Max. Like wow. I find this absolutely hilarious and tragic all at the same time. Talk about fucking up your life literally and figuratively. One crazy bunny boiler there! This is a dude she can totally manipulate! 😂 Great sex( 2 years of the best I got for free), and sh…
/r/MGTOW23/04/19 03:14 AM
9

Pump and dump. Record all interactions if it’s legal in your state
/r/MGTOW22/04/19 08:24 PM
36

Lol. I’d would not mind that so much - it’s when he’s living in a trailer park with his 4 illegitimate kids and is a drug dealer.
/r/MGTOW22/04/19 08:09 PM
3

Sunk Cost Fallacy. If you’re done,cut your losses while your wage is low. Try and under employ and pull the pin. With one year married it is unlikely you will have to pay lifetime alimony. Definitely take that saved money and hire a family lawyer.
/r/MGTOW22/04/19 07:20 PM
2

Horizontal oriented entertainers are honestly the best. Guaranteed performance and a fixed cost. Amsterdam is a 6hr flight away.
/r/MGTOW22/04/19 01:01 PM
5

That’s how my last FWB/GF of 2 years monkey branched. She could not manipulate me despite being hot and 15 years younger. She got some treats, but it was a fractional afterthought and she knew it. I did catch a case of the feels in the end, but it was short lived. So she monkey branched down the tree to a forklift operator with 4 young kids and recently divorced. I refused to move her into my crib. He needs to tack on more debt to buy her fast food. She will ride him like a pony; according to he…
/r/MGTOW22/04/19 02:57 AM
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Definitely. Proven that he is trainable and easier to manipulate. Plus he has few options so he will be one hungry simp. Unless your super wealthy, women are not too worried about a rich guy until they are in their late 30s. The government will prove and it’s all about power and control. They would rather have a deadbeat that will give them $100 per month which is all he has, then a well off man that will spend $200/month and its a small fraction of his wealth. Not logical as it is less in her p…
/r/MGTOW22/04/19 02:13 AM
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Yup. (With 4 kids and recently divorced living in section 8 housing). That gives them the tingles. So much drama to work with!
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 11:47 PM
5

Agreed. They do not always monkey branch for monetary reasons. It can be for non-logical reason like variety, control, the bad boy, hair colour etc - hamster spinning. 🐹 As a recent personal example shows, they will leave a zero debt, 6 figure, paid house, athletic guy for a recently divorced, 4 kid producing scumbag warehouse employee that does not have 1k in the bank. In fact, the more financially independent they are, I’d hazard the less likely they will want to work on the relationship. Alph…
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 09:35 PM
25

Absolutely classic. Some hard core red pill knowledge there. I was in my teens when the show aired. It influence me, but not enough. It did not prevent me from having a short marriage (thank god no children + divorce rape)
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 07:30 PM
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We have a natural tendency to romanticize the past. All the things that annoyed or angered us are often forgotten. Think of your past relationship. Even if it ended horribly, provided there is no ongoing raping, time tends to give it a cherry glow. This is not reality. This is why I write a journal and log. When I get the warm and fuzzies about a past conquest, I review those contemporaneous logs and realize things were not so cheery after all. That being said, society has become more complicate…
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 07:27 PM
8

Sex is addictive. I still fantasize about the 22 year old I was screwing (15 years young). It’s basically a drug (oxytocin) and it will take time to get it out of your symptom. Get under a new chick. Just remember she’s not yours; it’s just your turn.
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 06:44 PM
8

I found this independently a few months ago. I’ve found it helpful in focusing on my life.
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 06:40 PM
2

Rooms with a balcony cost you $$$. You don’t need it; spend all your time on deck and use it to sleep and shag. I’ve found it adds about $200 to the bill. If you book last minute during a cabin sale, it’s not bad at all.
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 03:19 AM
4

Crave this on any man’s grave stone. It matters not what you have done for them; it’s what they want in the moment. This thot will monkey branch; likely downward.
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 02:13 AM
4

I’m almost 40; never had a child. Some days I long for one - but mostly not. Too many outside factors that will make them not your own and influence them. I have a nephew and a niece; I’m content with that. I have a good relationship with my sister and will influence raising them right.
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 02:10 AM
2

Look up Stoicism. For me it has been the answer to many problems. I also gain meaning from my work, and spiritualism. Women are just temporary diversions. Just mind your feelings; I’m guilty as anyone else of catching a case of the feels. Just be mindful and cover your six. Never cohabitate, marry or procreate. The above being said, I do not have all the answers. I realize, if I’m lucky, I’m over halfway through my life. I still struggle with the meaning of life.
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 01:31 AM
7

Bible of MGTOW. I need to reread and have a refresher.
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 12:11 AM
8

I sometimes have the same issues. Could it be that you have a high IQ? I’m cursed with one-and yes it is a curse. Plus I’m an overachiever. Things that interest most people, like sporting events, bar hopping, etc I just can’t get into. Not that there is anything wrong or inferior with those pursuits; they just are not right for me. I’ve tried, but those things just don’t interest me. Video games and Netflix looses its luster after a few hours. I’m goal oriented; this is a things that I struggle …
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 12:08 AM
1

Congrats! Well done!
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 11:11 PM
2

Awesome! 👍 (Make sure you share! I could not get a hold of any today!)
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 11:07 PM
5

Agreed. Military guys, myself included, are prone to the Captain Save a Hoe complex. We are susceptible to the attention, adoration and the need to rescue that a lot of these thots use to snare us. We are prone to believe that what we’ve done for them will be reciprocated - it won’t. AWALT. https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/bc7lo4/briffault_laws_provide_clarity_on_the_current/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 11:00 PM
5

Cruises are awesome for solo. I swear by them. You won’t get board as it’s a new port every day. Heck you can sit on the deck and watch the ocean go by. Plus, if your interested in some casual strange, go to the club after hours - usually a 20 something that needs a fix while on her all girls vacation.
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 10:49 PM
5

Men are either too soyboy to serve in military or emergency services, or the old timers are sick and tired of having to jump through socially correct hoops just to do their jobs. Plus, as stated earlier; women fail up for diversity quotas and have no idea how to do the job. This puts the grunts (men) lives at greater risk. Plus, men are starting to wake up and realize dying for a society that hates them is pointless. Besides my tax dollars being used against me, society offers me little. Wives/g…
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 07:04 PM
1

Agreed. Put yourself first in today’s society. No one else will.
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 02:21 PM
14

I’m almost 40. I will be too old to care. I don’t have kids; never will. The “American Dream” died in the 50/60s - if it even existed; marriage and family life has never been a treat. NFG
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 12:56 AM
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This was over 10 years ago when I was in my late 20s. Red Pill knowledge was not as readily available as it is now. Don’t overestimate the power of blue pill logic. The plantation looks inviting until you are trapped on it.
/r/MGTOW19/04/19 01:10 PM
12

It does get better on the other side. I work in a very high divorce profession that makes well over 6 figures annually. Most of my cohort at late 30s early 40s are entering the divorce years. They are ejected from their homes and have about 15 years of child support payments. I am divorced (short marriage, <2years and no kids. No support payments, easy split). I got lucky. Yet, I can see first hand your situation playout over multiple colleagues lives. Now it’s time to get a vasectomy, pay down …
/r/MGTOW19/04/19 12:02 PM
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Plantation mentality. He’s in a blue pulled haze. All will be well until the Mrs. gets the tingles from Chad or Tyrone and he will be suicidal. It’s generation after generation of men who have been pacified. The last generation who had control of their household was the pre WW2 generation. It’s been a slow decline since. I don’t believe in treating women badly, but the ship can only have one captain and that should be the man. Since that will never happen in today’s society, walk off the lot and…
/r/MGTOW18/04/19 12:45 PM
3

This is what I’m talking about. They feel something, and will devastate a family, destroy a spouse, tank a relationship. Never marry, never cohabitate, never procreate. I’m guilty of developing feeling myself but always be in a position to walk away in 5 min.
/r/MGTOW17/04/19 05:09 PM
8

The ancients have buckets of wisdom. We just have to listen.
/r/MGTOW16/04/19 10:51 AM
70

Time to pay full retail for a car that has 4 flat tires, a blown engine, and the odometer has clicked around twice.
/r/MGTOW16/04/19 10:46 AM
3

Date casually to get over the oneitis. You will see that it was nothing special and is a feeling easily replicated. I’ve been in LTR and short term. The name changes, the booty changes, but the feeling is the same. Nothing unique about it. A brain surgeon is unique. An astrophysicist is unique. A astronaut is unique. Girls and relationships are so ubiquitous that they are common. That’s why we have 7.8billion people on this planet and growing.
/r/MGTOW14/04/19 11:44 PM
5

The modern definition of love is wrong. It’s lust/infatuation and lasts about 2-3 years (add in a few kids and we get the magic 7 year itch) until the youngest is out of diapers. While women have always been women, true “love” was that derived from decades of companionship and struggle. In the military, it would be between veterans. In domestic couplings, it would be under an arranged marriage where both parties did not even like each other, but due to society pressures, were forced to stay toge…
/r/MGTOW14/04/19 11:31 PM
18

Men make wealth/resources, women spend wealth/resources. It’s been like that since the dawn of time.
/r/MGTOW14/04/19 06:37 PM
42

They offer nothing. A <25 year old has the body to offer if she is hot; but that’s about it. Nothing else to offer. Usually drama, debt, risk etc. come with the territory. I’m almost 40. I’ve dated girls my age (in the past, older (in my 20s), and recently 15 years younger.) While the younger ones are fun, they fuck with your heart. I know better, but it’s bound to happen if you are an item for a period of time. As my sex drive decreases with age, I have to find a new focus besides chasing tail;…
/r/MGTOW14/04/19 05:41 PM
1

Yes, earnings gap in North American society. Men typically work longer, and harder. OT and no lost days.
/r/MGTOW214/04/19 05:04 PM
7

Typical. Someone else gave her the tingles and now she has an equity stream for the rest of her life.
/r/MGTOW14/04/19 03:08 PM
3

You can’t convert people to Red Pill philosophy; it has to be a conscientious choice. Society is stacked against the red pill approach; everything is blue pill in nature which is constantly reinforced. He might never come to this realization. Most don’t as the Matrix is strong. Plus, going it alone is very difficult. You just need to accept this and move on.
/r/MGTOW14/04/19 03:05 PM
2

Very true. You’re about 10 years ahead of me and have a more experienced perspective than I value. Like I’ve said before, a lot of it is theory in a particular relationship until you are confronted with the bold face facts that confirm your Red Pill beliefs. It still takes my breath away sometimes. Stepping back, I can plainly see she has bold face narcism - her social media is a-washed with how everything is “awesome” or “the best” or “most moving”; romantic life aside. I’m no psychologist but …
/r/MGTOW13/04/19 08:37 PM
3

Fuck brother; so true. Social media provides confirmation of some of our deepest and darkest fears. It does make going Red Pill easy. But like you said, the dagger is not aimed for my head, but my heart. I just found out that this has a name - love bombing. It is commonly used by psychopaths to manipulate. Part of me is laughing at myself. Part is “crying”. Part of me wishes it was different. Part of me is content with the knowledge that this is as it is. Thank you for the perspective.
/r/MGTOW13/04/19 07:13 PM
2

Me, myself and I. As it has been for the majority of my 35+ years. I know AWALT and she’s not yours; it’s just your turn. I want to be wrong, but I know this is the case.
/r/MGTOW13/04/19 05:51 PM
2

Lol great analogy. Hardly 20, almost 40. She was 15 years younger than me. Intellectually I protected myself. Emotionally she was sand between my armour. Thanks.
/r/MGTOW13/04/19 05:45 PM
15

Simply epic
/r/MGTOW13/04/19 04:07 PM
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I’m very late 30s. After a while it does grow old. I can please myself better than any woman ever could. The game is getting old. Plus, while I have been successful with women, I find it hard to not have my protector instinct kick in after I’ve been sleeping with them for 6mo+. This causes me emotional suffering when they bounce. When they inevitably tank the “relationship” then I suffer a sense of loss over a piece. Plus, if they are 30+ women are well past the 1st wall. I’d rather board a plan…
/r/MGTOW13/04/19 01:28 PM
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Not modern. All women since the dawn of time. Only difference is society endorses it, glorifies it, and financially incentives it. In the past society controlled it.
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 09:52 PM
15

Have to agree. If their mouths are moving, they are lying, to varying degrees. Judge actions, body language and words. Never be in a relationship you can’t cut away from in 5 min. Do not marry. Do not cohabitate. Do not impregnate.
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 09:50 PM
14

Gaslighting is their stock and trade. Most women, despite common belief, have fucking horrible communication skills. They can’t have difficult conversations. Instead they engage in hot/cold and gaslighting as a defence mechanism, to play victim, and to justify there shitty decision(ie cheating) It sucks, hurts like hell, and drives you crazy but it’s all par for the course. I know better and it still blindsides me sometimes.
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 07:24 PM
3

Military. Let them pay for your trade or get a speciality that’s high paying. Better yet, pick a speciality that will let you do a 30 year career in the military, but is not front line grunt work. Be smart about branch etc
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 04:19 PM
1

Doing some math, we are about the same age - I’m very late 30s. That’s an absolute nightmare man. Thank god you survived! Remember, no loyalty with women. That’s a male characteristic that we project on them.
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 03:47 PM
11

Red Pill, for most, requires burning your hand a few times for the lessons to truly stick. Especially when your <30-35. Get fucked over a few time and then you have a battery of experience to compare and contrast. Take reasonable and customary precautions when dealing with women. Always assume she is not on the pill; even though she tells you otherwise. Never do the following; 1.) Marry 2.) Procreate 3.) Cohabitate. 4.) Don’t believe a word she says; believe her actions. Or have a relationship y…
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 02:00 PM
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Women have always been like this. There is no “golden age.” There is a reason that we have the biblical tale of the Garden of Eden. It’s to serve as a warning. Yet, in the past, society and social pressures kept their natures contained. Today it runs wild and is endorsed. Once the western social state we live in collapses and their is no nanny government a functioning society might return that keeps this more base nature in check. Unfortunately every man alive today will likely be dead or too ol…
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 01:43 AM
3

I feel for you brother. Been there, done that, have the scars to prove it. This is standard programming. 100% gospel on all my LTR relationships. They all do this. Cheating is cheating; as abhorrent as it is. But the scars caused by this rank form of manipulation and gaslighting is far, far worse.
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 12:13 AM
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It’s hard man, I know. You can’t trust what they tell you, the actions speak louder than words. The pattern outlined below is what happened in both my LTR relationships. See if it matches yours. Link below. https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/b8ajw5/typical_relationship_progression_of_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 11:44 PM
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All this is par for the course gents. Some of the worst: 1.) 6 year relationship.(Married 2). Went from “your the best thing that ever happened to me” to cheating and monkey branching. Gaslighting me with “you treat me so well, I feel bad about myself”. 2.) 2 year FWB/LTR. Her social media was awash with “most amazing man I ever met”, “he’s the absolute best”. Basically the most tender things you can say. Then sudden breaks up with me saying she been unhappy for so long etc. Tries to manipulate …
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 11:34 PM
5

1.) Realizing that any actions, support, common struggles or loyalty you had shown her in the past had absolutely no bearing on future loyalty. 2.) She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. 3.) Treating her well will only drive her away. 4.) You are such an “awesome person”/treated her so well that “I don’t deserve you”/“makes me feel bad about myself.” 5.) They will monkey branch up or down the socio-economic ladder based off of vagina tingles. All these happened over various relationships of diffe…
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 09:17 PM
2

I’ve been in a few relationshits with passive aggressive females. They will go through unique phases that absolutely fuck with your emotional health. It’s outlined in another Reddit I wrote. Second you see passive aggressive behaviour - walk off the lot.
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 10:31 AM
2

Wow, talk about shaming language. I’ve always treated women extremely well; they have done the absolute opposite. That’s why I’ve taken the Red Pill and walked off the lot.
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 01:05 AM
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The first one in particular. When they start pulling away or their is any change in behaviour you know she is about to monkey branch. Never have a relationship with a women that you can’t walk away from in 5 min. Do not cohabitate. Do not marry Do not procreate.
/r/MGTOW10/04/19 09:20 PM
1

Happens with 24 year olds as well. My Last semi LTR monkey branched from me as a doctor to a idiot with 4 young kids that’s just recently divorced. (<4mo). He’s a forklift operator and not even that “hot”; I’m way more attractive in the traditional sense. Don’t apply logic to the situation
/r/MGTOW208/04/19 08:55 PM
2

Unfortunately they feel empowered by cheating. Men cheat as well, but for a different reason. Men cheat simply for sex. Women cheat for attention, resources, power, revenge, sex and boredom.
/r/MGTOW05/04/19 12:51 AM
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When they are young and want to ride the cock carousel, they monkey branch as low as they can go and sleep with any alpha dick they can get. Once they hit late 20s to early 30s they suddenly want to get a “good man” beta cuck to support them and breed with. This is monkey branching up. 2-3 kids later, in their early to mid 40s, back on the carousel. Withholding sex is a way of duping a guy into increasing her sexual market value.
/r/MGTOW03/04/19 11:30 PM
3

He’s a beta cuck too. Social media is full of Pokémon memes and he’s on Facebook more than most women I know with post after post of garbage on the hour collecting likes. Wall is full of liberal PQ shit. Definitely a soy boy. Talk about extremes - not to toot my own horn but I’m fairly manly in the traditional sense. I know she responds to a traditional male - she has daddy issues for sure. Absolutely hilarious in a sick way. She will play him like a piano.
/r/MGTOW03/04/19 09:40 PM
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Patron saint of MGTOW
/r/MGTOW03/04/19 01:15 AM
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Well spoken. One of the best posts of the years. All I would highlight; and I know you know this, is: She’s not yours, it’s just your turn.
/r/MGTOW03/04/19 12:55 AM
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This is essentially the stage I’m at. Each time around the block, I emotionally invest less and less. I’ve tried women my age (at the time the relationship started), and women decades younger. It’s all the same across the board. It’s simply their nature. It’s getting to the point that I can almost project the timeline of the relationship. ie. 2 more weeks and it will be an over the top display of affection. 4 more months and it will be hot and cold passive aggressive....etc. I outlined the phase…
/r/MGTOW03/04/19 12:46 AM
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I wish they would. No government handouts, no alimony, no support. My tax bill would be slashed by 50% and GDP would increase by 30%.
/r/MGTOW02/04/19 10:35 PM
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Happened to me twice over about 12 years and a few relationships of various lengths not counting random hookups while traveling. These 2 were the longest so I’m 2/2 with a LTR component. First was 6 years (2 married). That woke me out of the blue pill haze. Became red pill for about 2 years in my rage. Second was the last semi LTR with a 22 year old. (2 years, started as a FWB). I saw the signs immediately but she was 15 years younger then me when the relationship started. Can’t help that ego bo…
/r/MGTOW02/04/19 01:54 AM
18

Trust me I’m tempted to call her on her shit - but in today’s environment it’s better to let sleeping dogs lie.
/r/MGTOW02/04/19 12:05 AM
1

Agreed. The cycle that played out in the OP is one I’ve been at ground zero for multiple times over the years. This new relationship is so temporary it’s lucky to last 3 months. Unless she decides she want to “trap him” and he knocks her up. 50/50 odds. Like you stated, she’s dumb and wants to be part of drama. If nothing else, I’m anti drama. I’m cool headed and always did my own thing in the relationship. Thanks to all; writing it out helps me organize my feelings.
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 11:52 PM
10

Lots of truth. I still struggle with the blue pill programming from time to time. But deep down I know I’m only a bucket of resources to be extracted - be it financial, social status, or genetic. Women are perfectly designed to extract these resources; through manipulation. The “pros” can manipulate you with sex, praise and professions of undying love. I think some of it is calculated; some of it is instinct. Yet, when the switch flicks you are less than dirt as your usefulness has been exhauste…
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 04:20 PM
1

Yup have to let go. NFG Just another example of what they use to call the town bike.
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 09:18 AM
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As an update: 2019-03-31@2200hrs Now their status has been officially updated to “in a relationship”. I know couples typically don’t make official announcements like this a few days after meeting. Average timeframe is 2-3 months. So she was obviously cheating while we were together; suspicions confirmed! 😝 She denied black was white that their was someone else involved on the break. And to think I actually wanted the best for her; just plan trash. Think I should let the dude know, or let sleepin…
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 02:23 AM
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Obviously there are exceptions to every rule, but is this a game you want to play in today’s society? She can simply say - “I’m not happy” and that’s all it takes; half your shit and support for the rest of your life. Remember - Your not special and women are women. Plus she has friends that will convince her of all the other cock she should have tried sooner or later; now or 15 years from now:
/r/MGTOW31/03/19 11:12 PM
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Agree 100%. I totally got out clean. All documented with saved texts and emails that are time stamped and archived. Heck she got very little material wise just a bit of emotional support when the fun transitioned into a pseudo LTR for the last 6-7 mo of the relationship. Like you stated, just trying to keep the sex flowing for as long as possible. A little bit of feelings developed on my end I guess. I was not going to go back on the plantation by any means though. But man she was good at saying…
/r/MGTOW31/03/19 09:23 PM
1

That’s basically what I have; but I’m 11 years older and the house is paid. I need to work on a nicer ride though. Congrats!
/r/MGTOW31/03/19 04:55 PM
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That’s when I met her; she will be 25 soon. Not better looking - subjectively speaking. Pansy dude bro with a dirty beard. Lol. As in the dick department - no idea. She had no complaints and would call me for booty calls when we were “together.”
/r/MGTOW31/03/19 04:37 PM
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Very true point. He must be super easy to manipulate. Briffault Laws in Action. No woman has ever had power over me - even when I was blue pill and married for 2 years I had a prenup; she got nothing. She even stated as much. I guess I’m a bit of a soft touch. I would have like to seen better for her. Not my problem. My one fault is I have a bit of a Captain Save a Hoe complex. I recognize it and keep an eye on it. She was fantastic in bed and 15 years younger then me. I’m more pissed that my tu…
/r/MGTOW31/03/19 02:12 PM
1

This has been going on since the dawn of time - modern science just gives us the proof. Woman’s biological imperative - creates as much genetic diversity as possible. The only way she was caught in the past was if the husband had been away for years and returns to an infant or pregnant spouse. Then the gods were invoked as a convent cover. The only difference today is that the state will make him support her and the teenage child until adulthood. In the past she would have been dealt with by the…
/r/MGTOW31/03/19 12:02 PM
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Same, late 30s. Was never keen on them in my youth, now I’m fixed. I can’t be bothered. I have nieces and nephews and am fine with that. The older you get, the better chance you have of fucking a 20 something. When the economy goes boom it will be a virtual guarantee if you have means.
/r/MGTOW30/03/19 09:59 PM
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80% wanting to sleep with top 10-20% due to Digital apps. Until they are 30+, hit the wall, and wants a beta wallet. Notice that at around 30ish they all pump out a kid from either a beta wallet or a Chad in which case the system will support it.
/r/MGTOW29/03/19 07:21 PM
3

Never, never bring sand to the beach. I’ve learned this lesson. Every time I’ve travel with a women it’s been nothing but sulking and drama; and that’s with the good ones. Even if they pay their own way I always return more stressed. Yet, if I travel solo, I get to sling seed like an old bird feeder with 20 somethings while the simp is at home paying the bill for the “girls vacation”.
/r/MGTOW29/03/19 05:57 PM
1

I do the exact same thing! Birds of a feather. My portfolio has grown over the years - I invest about 50% of my income. I could basically retire because I have no debts and a paid off house but I’m late 30s so I can’t do it quite yet. I live a very minimalist lifestyle but I will not spend money on a chick. Coffee and that’s it. Otherwise it’s dinner at my place (with fucking) or she can pay her own way. I works too - my average cost/fuck is $25. Over that she gets dropped. It’s not the money sp…
/r/MGTOW228/03/19 10:10 PM
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Don’t reply. Don’t block just yet - let her run off at the mouth and make a threat. Then screen shot and notify the police. Preemptive restraining order. In today’s day and age - fight fire with fire.
/r/MGTOW28/03/19 10:04 PM
2

That’s always the song and dance. An ex cheated on me because she stated: “You treated me so well, I felt bad about myself, so I needed to cheat to feel better”. They are all bipolar crazy.
/r/MGTOW26/03/19 07:00 PM
1

This was when I was in my 20s. I had this chick show up with 2 of her friends (girl/guy) and proclaim it was a double date. Obviously not the arrangement for a first date and not mentioned prior. I took one look at the situation and said yeah - fuck this and left. Got back into my mustang and drove away.
/r/MGTOW25/03/19 10:15 PM
2

Agreed. I know better and I’m sure a big element of the situation was that she was crazy wild in bed, 17 years younger, a solid 8 and always DTF. Logically I know it was only a matter of time before she monkey branched because she was only getting crumbs from me. My guess is she lined up a younger Chad or realized clocks ticking and roped in a beta. I feel like someone stole my ride. Lost my turn. Lol That’s the problem with hot chicks, everyone’s trying to mow your lawn.
/r/MGTOW25/03/19 04:40 PM
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I still hookup with women. I do it mostly while travelling. For the most part that’s enough. I’ve been married briefly once. Never again. I’ve had a 2 year dating/FWB relationship with a chick 17 years younger than me. I will admit that I tend to get too emotionally invested. Never again.
/r/MGTOW25/03/19 01:08 AM
1

Simple and understated. Love it.
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 11:48 PM
3

Nothing creepy about it. I was slamming a 22 year old for 2.5 years when I was 38. She was a solid 7 when I met her. Obviously I’m not of the same caliber of Mr. DiCaprio. All my friends said I was “creepy”, but behold my fields of fucks, for they are barren. I miss that ride though. But never marry, never cohabitate , never procreate.
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 11:09 PM
1

No arguments there. A lot are tattooed whales and they have the attitude of a 10 to match.
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 09:10 PM
3

Men are slowly but surely starting to wake up. It’s simply through trial and error and the shitty behaviour of most females. 10 years ago, women could keep it together long enough to trap a guy in marriage. Now their true colours show shortly after dating or immediately. With the advent of porn, video games, and cheap flights to Nevada or Amsterdam, their is no incentive to marry, cohabitation or procreation. Plus, they have multiple generations of fathers, grandfathers and uncles all being slau…
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 06:58 PM
4

Oh so typical! Walk away.
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 02:24 PM
19

Men are always blamed for conquests and putting the proverbial “notch in their belts” as the narrative goes. But the womenz’s are way worse in my long dating history spanning almost 20 years. See, women keep trophies of the dudes that have provided friction between the sheets. It might be an article of clothing stolen, a momento, or naming your first born womb turd after your first Chad. It so when they have hit the wall, they can look back and convince themselves that they were “loved”. It’s a …
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 12:21 PM
3

Good for Sammy. Love his work. Successful capitalist too.
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 12:08 PM
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After 25 the wall come’th if not before. Why buy when you can rent? One of the smartest men in Hollywood in my opinion - cut, sling, load. You will notice by the chart that non of the relationships are more than 5 years.
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 12:04 PM
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Satire that is the truth. From 18-25 they have unlimited options if they are attractive; even if they are not in todays society. Always a thirty beta. Chad fucks and beta bucks. I’ve been the beta and now I’m essentially a Chad. Can’t take any of these relationships seriously. If you can’t walk away from them in 5 min with no strings attached (kids, cohab, marriage) you are doing something wrong.
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 03:25 AM
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Trust me, she done with the relationship. I’ve been married once and dated a lot - I’m a few years older than you. When they start with these shit tests, the sex dries up, and they start gaslighting like you wife is, it’s time to pull the pin. She’s trying to convince herself that it’s all your fault. No kids - even better. Get a lawyer, split the assets and head for the hill. All the dust will settle by 35 and you can build your wealth for the next 20 and retire at 55. Hook up with 20 something…
/r/MGTOW22/03/19 07:16 PM
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Cardinal rules: She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. When you get dumped, your turn is over. But remember, you just got placed further back in the queue. She will be back if time allows. Understanding these simple rules makes understanding women easier
/r/MGTOW22/03/19 01:33 AM
1

Love the boat! Congratulations! This is my plan for retirement. Solar powered sail boat. Sail down to the Caribbean for the winter months and sail back for the summer months. Entertain myself with 20 somethings - when she becomes a hassle drop them off and sail away. Get a dog and we will live on the boat for the majority of the year. Late 30s, retiring at 55.
/r/MGTOW22/03/19 01:27 AM
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Debt free is the way to be. Stay that way - no marriage, cohabitation, or procreation. It feels nice. I’m late 30s. Paid off house, paid off car, no debts, plenty of cash. It’s great!
/r/MGTOW22/03/19 12:54 AM
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6k, spent on a Uber PC, even when drunk is the cost of my separation agreement - and I got off light. Vastly worse ways to waste money; like marriage, cohabitation and procreation.
/r/MGTOW22/03/19 12:50 AM
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Classic shit test. I would have been “Good luck with that. In fact why don’t you get me X; your treat.” She’d either be all over you or huff off. Win/win
/r/MGTOW21/03/19 06:52 PM
3

I was married for less than 2 years in my early 30s. No children or support obligations. She went from the most reasonable/rational person to the most toxic wench at the flick of a switch. Came home early and found a truck in the driveway that was not my own. I was at the lawyers the next day for the win! At almost 40, I’m enjoying life. Banging 20 somethings when the mood strikes. Paid off house. No debts. 100k+/year and retirement at 55. Minimalism rocks.
/r/MGTOW21/03/19 06:47 PM
5

After 30 they all become OPP; old, poor and powerless. Bed made, enjoy lying in it. She had 18-20 years of fun. 40 more years of destitution await; that’s a long time to struggle.
/r/MGTOW21/03/19 06:43 PM
1

Over nice, under laid. (Good Terrance Popp YouTube video)
/r/MGTOW20/03/19 07:10 PM
2

Women are capable of the coldest shit that a man could never perpetuate. This is all to someone they supposedly “loved”. Once the switch is flicked your less than dirt-at least diet is good for growing plants. The level of coldness they can perpetrate still takes my breath away and I know better.
/r/MGTOW19/03/19 05:31 PM
4

This is the golden rule. Cut, sling, load. A relationship ending should be as simple as - listen, this isn’t working for me anymore. Goodbye. Best of luck. Do not marry, no cohabitation, no procreation. It’s just too dangerous in today’s day and age.
/r/MGTOW18/03/19 12:55 AM
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Human nature is truly amazing, in general. Guys in relationshits would kill themselves to have a moments peace like yourself. That little part of your, the blue pill part, secretly wishes a woman was romantically in your life. Your much better off taking the red pill and being on your own. I’d rather feel “lonely” from time to time then be married and have a boot on my neck. Congratulations, go your own way!
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 10:43 PM
1

When I’m alone with intox females, or females in general, I have a audio recorder going on my cellphone and have a camera in my car. Where possible I also have a camera going - in personal vehicle, office etc. All clearly displayed with a you will be recorded sign. The few times I date, I have audio going for the whole interaction - which is legal in my justification. Memory is cheap and it gets dated and saved to the HD. Everything is time stamped. This is what the world has come too. That’s wh…
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 07:54 PM
3

For the win, take that $500/mo and buy an investment of your choice. Make your money work for you. Then retire at 45-40.
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 02:49 PM
1

Wow, date her, fuck her, but never marry her. Insane.
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 02:35 PM
1

Lol; no one is immune. Everyone thinks not their princess, not them. AWALT. Enjoy making payments against it. I say this as I sit quietly in my backyard, enjoying a nice sunny day and a cup of coffee. :)
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 02:32 PM
2

I think minimalism and being stoic go hand in hand with MGTOW. Women only add stress and drama to ones life. I’m getting close to 40 - I’m at the point that I just can’t be bothered anymore with their crap. I’ve tried marriage (less than 2 year, no kids, no obligations). My home is paid. I have no debts. Looking to retire in 10-15 years; I take plenty of time off for myself. Dating 20 somethings was fun initially, until their shitty attitude starts. I find that women are nothing but jealous of y…
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 02:58 AM
1

No such thing as a golden age of family and women. Only difference is today we are gaslight and shamed. NFG,
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 01:36 AM
3

Very true. I’ve been married (less than 2 years, no kids and no obligations). I’ve fucked women almost half my age (early 20s). It eventually all gets old. I still like chicks as temporary diversions but I’m not signing a cheque against them. I travel, hookup under an assumed name, and leave when the trip is done. In all honesty, a fleshlight and pornhub is almost as good and is essentially free. I spend my gold on travel, guns, gold, and timeoff.
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 12:33 AM
2

Almost 40 - getting there. I hook up with 20-25 year olds - only while vacationing and under an assumed name.
/r/MGTOW15/03/19 10:31 PM
1

Oh sweet god. Please pass the eye bleach! I would have signed a cheque against that 15 years ago because I’m a few years older. If that’s not a poster for MGTOW; nothing is.
/r/MGTOW12/03/19 01:06 AM
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I’m almost 40. I can’t be bothered anymore. I please myself much more than any woman ever could. Porn fantasy women are 100% reliable and cost me nothing but my already paid for internet subscription. If I find a 20 something while travelling fine - otherwise it’s to Amsterdam/Nevada and pay a pro if I need it that bad. Cleaner too. Metoo basically hit the death nail in the coffin of dating - to be bothered with dating, you have to literally have nothing to loose; including your freedom.
/r/MGTOW11/03/19 02:23 AM
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That’s why there is no such thing as the “good old days”. Ie 1940/1950s. Trouble then, trouble now. Only difference is today they have the full weight of the courts, media and the hive mind behind them.
/r/MGTOW10/03/19 04:03 AM
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Never give into the blue pill programming. Living, having kids or marrying the “best” chick in the world changes everything for the worse. If you need companionship just have serial 6mo-2year relationships. The name changes but to greater or lesser extent they are all the same. At least you will have no support obligations when it ends. I’m in my late 30s. I enjoy being by myself. 2 year marriage but when it ended I was so relieved once the dust settled. I’m glad I made that mistake when I was y…
/r/MGTOW09/03/19 11:30 PM
6

I can’t agree with this more. Never bring sand to the beach. Find a random hookup if they drop in your lap. Otherwise do your own thing!
/r/MGTOW08/03/19 12:39 AM
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Remember money is only a number. Once you have it, and have to manage it, you realize it’s simply options. Granted, you have to pay for food and rent and entertainment- but it’s only a meaningless number. Your freedom and time (the most important asset) and your sanity are priceless. If my divorce had gone differently, I would have boarded a plane and simply left. For me, living in a horrible relationship for the limited time you have left, is pointless. If I hazard a guess, that is why he is so…
/r/MGTOW08/03/19 12:05 AM
2

Same here. I’ve been going on awoke and free for about 5 years. In that time, I’ve had a custom home built, moved in, it’s spartan decorated as I am a minimalist. I go to bed when I want, see who I want, and fuck women half my age. I’m nearing 40 and look at the ex - 2 x 20s is far better than a 40 year old! I’m in the Caribbean ever 2-3 months and fuck women abroad. When I hop the plane, I never have to see them again. When you have no fucks to give- life is good!
/r/MGTOW06/03/19 09:47 PM
1

Awesome posts Sir! You are a little smarter than I was, or had the fortune to have that bad experience that made you clue into the rigged game. I’m 15 years younger than you. Married once for maybe 2 years; came home early and found her cheating. No kids, no support obligations. I too have a paid off house - but I like being in a major metropolitan area - I would get too lonely otherwise. While I will never marry, cohab, or procreate I still try to “date”. Social media is a washout. Forget it. A…
/r/MGTOW204/03/19 01:28 AM
2

Late 30s, semi retired. I think the key is to have passive income generation via investments (REITs, dividend stocks etc). I find it’s hard find a “stable” investment about the 4-5% ROI. I think the key is no wife, no kids, and a modest paid off residence. If things get tight I have rooms to spare that I can rent out for around $500/mo. It would be on a limited rental basis, to men I know. Even if I give them a break, I could turn an extra $800/mo. I prefer to live alone though. For me, and I’m …
/r/MGTOW03/03/19 06:58 PM
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I agree to an extent. But at least I can live in it and rent it out. I can grow vegetables in the backyard too. Cash is trash and stocks are in a huge bubble. I stockpile gold and silver also. When you don’t waste money playing house with a chick; life is good.
/r/MGTOW03/03/19 02:31 PM
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Nice, I’m envious in a way. I have a 4 bedroom house - most of the rooms are empty - purchased due to investment appreciation and to save money in a real asset for the impending collapse. I think I might rent a few rooms to some MGTOW guys I know; make it like a small piece of paradise. No chicks allowed. Then essentially my space is a simple, clean room. Since I don’t give a fuck about impressing women life is so much easier. And I’m fending them off with a stick. Life gets better when you have…
/r/MGTOW03/03/19 01:56 PM
7

Before ending it, he should have said - “Hey, that’s great. I think I’m going to try and fuck your best friend or your sister. Care to join us?” Then hear the Hamster wheel Spin. 🐹
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 02:06 AM
2

Awesome!!!! Buy fast cars, precious metals, ammunition, and horizontal oriented entertainment as you drive off into the sunset.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 02:00 AM
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So true!!!! Not only are women like water, taking the shape of the vessel they are with, but they are like a grinding wheel. If you want sparks, you have to do all the pumping. Second you stop jumping, the magic fizzles. That how I dump a 20 something when I’ve had enough of her shit - turn beta and become the nice guy and she heads for the hills! 😂
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 01:48 AM
1

I own my vehicle outright, and honestly it’s more expensive to run then my house. And it’s an economical vehicle too. Between gas, insurance and routine maintenance I spend more per month then utilities, property tax and insurance. If you can work while being on public transportation- not owning a vehicle saves a bundle.
/r/MGTOW28/02/19 01:20 AM
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With the price of housing in the area that I live, for guys that are in their mid 20 - early 30s, if you can live at home, rent free, do it. I’m nearing 40, and while I own property, I bought my first over 12 years ago when the housing market was depressed. We are in a mega bubble right now. Once the market corrects again, hopefully that pile of cash you’ve been saving will be a great down payment. Plus, it does keep the chicks away!
/r/MGTOW26/02/19 09:59 PM
1

I’m on the reverse of a lot of chaps my age. 75-80% of their income goes to child and spousal support payments. They live in 20-25%. I live on 25%, but 50% goes into investments (gold/silver, stocks, retirement, real estate) and 25% is for travel and hobbies. I usually don’t spend it all and further bank another 10-15k/year. Sex is easy to come by and gets less and less important as you age. This man has the right approach. MGTOW for the win.
/r/MGTOW24/02/19 02:45 PM
1

Walk away! Hire a pro, get the variety and none of the drama. You pay her to leave. That or get a Fleshlight. Basically the same. This is coming from a guy who’s dated and fucked quite a few women over the decades. 4.5 years GMOW
/r/MGTOW24/02/19 12:46 AM
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Golden rule: She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. Yup, I always laugh when I see a guy getting all lovey dovey with an ex - and I think to myself - man the amount of my nut load that she swallowed with that!
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 01:01 PM
2

Awesome. Never spend cash on a girl. Those days went out with the dinosaurs. Coffee at most. Aim for a 6 mo or less “relationship” that misses all the major holidays like Christmas, birthday etc. Then go beta and she will move on! Perfect system for hooking up with 20 somethings.
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 12:53 PM
1

Update boys - it took 5 days for my next Eskimo brother to make an appearance on social media! 🤣🤣🤣(No offence meant to First Nations individuals). My prediction was 3 days Same basic song and dance of the posts she took down of us - almost verbatim- “X is such a great guy.....”, “I’m a big fan.....” Woman truly run plays from the same playbook over and over. It’s insane! It does not matter what you’ve done for them in the past - you could have been their for a death, donated a kidney, cured canc…
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 06:18 AM
1

Mental block lol - you will regret it when your 60! Everyone is legal.
/r/MGTOW22/02/19 02:35 AM
2

This curve for the most part is scientifically accurate. I wish they had taught me this in school when I was in my teens and early 20s. But, it’s forbidden knowledge that the system does not want you to have access too. I hit my stride after 35 - I’m almost 40 and as women are concerned I have multiples hanging off the vine. When you have NFGs if the relationship comes or goes - life is easy. A 20 something will sense the resources and confidence and jump into bed. Sex and woman aside, having a …
/r/MGTOW21/02/19 10:52 PM
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Men generally age like wine, women milk. I get more 20-25 year old tail at late 30s then I ever got in my 20s. When you don’t fear rejection, have no fucks to give, have no plan of long term, they have no control!
/r/MGTOW21/02/19 07:16 PM
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Very astute. This describes my ex wife to a tee. After it ended I clued into the behaviour but I enjoy how well articulated this post is. All women exhibit these behaviours to a greater of lessor extent. Especially the false idealization with the purpose of control and manipulation. When the complements are over the top I know the relationship is near the end. It’s their last ditch effort to manipulate you and maybe convince themselves that the relationship has value before they monkey branch. I…
/r/MGTOW21/02/19 02:36 PM
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I’m in your same position but 10ish years older than you. Keep on the path brother. My house is paid and I could retire. I like my job so I will work until 50-55 and then pull the pin. I’m a minimalist and don’t need or want many things. My idea of a treat is to spend $70 on a video game once or twice a year. As I get older, I think I’m almost done with dating and “relationships”. One very short, failed marriage taught me that. Dating 20 somethings is fun- but the drama and level of toxicity in …
/r/MGTOW21/02/19 03:05 AM
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Thank you sir; I learned that lesson as well. Thankfully a short 2 years marriage without kids. I’m nearing 40, and have no debts and a paid off house. I came from a traditional family - my mom and dad are of the same generation as you. Their marriage worked, a rarity, so my head was filled with traditional values. But thanks to the internet and information provided by guys like Terrance Popp I managed to break the conditioning after my divorce. I still date, but I’m starting to get to the age w…
/r/MGTOW20/02/19 11:29 PM
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STEM or trades to echo the others. Dating apps are a waste of time. Today they are used for quick ego boosts or chat, chat, chat for free attention. If you are inclined to find some action when the mood strikes, go to a singles outing. Practice your social skills..They will serve you in life as well. That way you can judge if their is chemistry or not. But remember - she’s not yours, it’s just your turn. Never marry, cohabitate, or impregnate.
/r/MGTOW20/02/19 10:02 PM
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I think minimalism and MGTOW go like cart and horse. Not woman and man. When you no longer have woman as your primary concern; life becomes so much simpler. I still like them as temporary distractions, but that’s all. The second hassle starts they get the boot. I live very comfortably on 25% of my base wage. I drive a very reasonable car. I invest for the future. I travel 3-4 times a year. I have zero debt and own my own house - totally paid off. I’m almost 40. My secret - minimalism, and no wif…
/r/MGTOW20/02/19 08:23 PM
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Agreed. I’ve had some of the best hookups and sex while travelling solo. Everyone is putting on a fake persona - it’s an escape from the bf for some . Your plowing her on the girlfriends vacation while he’s at home working to pay for it all. Plus you can use an assumed identity. You know the relationship is self limiting. I’ve even had a semi LTR relationship with another 20 something. Booty calls every 8 weeks for a few years until it fizzled. For me I find if you are passively indifferent to w…
/r/MGTOW20/02/19 12:02 PM
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I’ve know some absolutely brilliant women. This has nothing to do with text book intelligence. But when you get into a relationship with them, logic, reason and common sense go out the window. Much like a small child. I’ve endured the equivalent of adult tantrums over the years! From women that were physicians - even surgeons. There tantrums are the worst because there is a huge sense of entitlement due to their position in life.
/r/MGTOW19/02/19 05:17 PM
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The fact that you ignored her made her want you more. Trust me. I’ve dated these type of women before. She’s about to hit the wall (even though still gorgeous) and well past her prime. I still might have banged her - but coffee only investment. No major dumping of resources into this one. Then get ride of her.
/r/MGTOW19/02/19 04:19 PM
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Wow, absolutely awesome! I’m a huge diver and GMOW. Thanks for sharing!
/r/MGTOW19/02/19 03:37 PM
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Honestly, I don’t think I’ve ever found a woman that can sexually please me as much as I’m able to please myself. A girl 15 years my junior came close, but for amount of hassle of dealing with them for a full day to seal the deal - it’s honestly not worth it. Porn + pro I think is the way to go if it’s legal in your location. Sometimes the female companionship is nice in the extent that they will whisper sweet nothings in your ear about how awesome a husband/boy friend you are - but it’s as fake…
/r/MGTOW19/02/19 03:12 PM
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Agreed. And the second they start hitting the gym or improving themselves, or acquiring a new hobby it’s to morph to the needs of another cock that she’s cheating with. I’ve seen this time and again. They will never grow and improve for you once they have you - the second they start to take initiative in an established relationship - your going to be replaced via monkey branching!
/r/MGTOW19/02/19 10:02 AM
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I hate no one as a group. On a individual to individual basis, maybe for the moment. The RedPill rage was bad about 3 years ago. It has since calmed and an inner peace has started to flow over me since my last sexual relationship with a woman recently ended. I’ve had ex’s do some fairly heartless things to me over the decades. Born out of selfishness, falsehoods and misrepresentations. I’m now basically indifferent to women. If the biological need arises, I will fuck them, but otherwise I walk o…
/r/MGTOW19/02/19 09:51 AM
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Good suggestion. I eat most keto and try to stay away from processed foods. I might give Yoga a try and it could be a good social outlet.
/r/MGTOW19/02/19 02:59 AM
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Typical 40 hr work week but with compressed hours that give me lots of time off. 12-16hr shifts. I too am in good shape but don’t see the point of getting jacked although I might need to hit the gym to burn off my energy. It’s just most typical hobbies will eventually bore me. (140 IQ; I find it more of a curse sometimes then a blessing)
/r/MGTOW19/02/19 02:29 AM
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I believe this is so. While social programming might dupe higher IQ individuals initially, very few lower IQ men are MGTOW. They will get married again and again - even after the age of 35, 40,45 - when the sex drive for most has long since abated. Higher IQ men, once open to the pattern/trend will become MGTOW and all the associated subsets - MRA, PUA etc. They realize that the game is loosing, the rules are precarious, and the consequences dire for engaging in marriage, cohabitation and procre…
/r/MGTOW219/02/19 12:16 AM
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Women truly are mercenaries. They can espouse all the love and caring for you. “You are the best thing that ever happened to me”, “I’m so lucky to have you in my life.”, “I have the absolute best boyfriend” “He knows how to exactly make my day”, “Your the most amazing man I ever met”. But if they don’t get their way, or a better deal catches their attention, they will turn on you in the blink of an eye. I’m in my late 30s. 2 year marriage and 2 year LTR with a girl 15 years junior. I was MGTOW b…
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 09:40 PM
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Read that a few years ago. Recommend reading and oh so true.
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 09:24 PM
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I hear you brother. You have definitely hit upon the pattern of their mindset of not giving them what they want and they are not in the place in their life that they thought they would be. Then they either sabotage or end the relationship. No chance is given to figure out what’s wrong and develop a plan to address it. This current one, I met her at 22 (I was 37 at the time); started as a physical fling and developed into more. For the first year of the relationship I dated other women (known), b…
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 09:13 PM
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I agree that kids are a huge motivator. But under the current regime they are not yours - it’s for the mother and society to raise. Even if you do surrogacy society will mould your child more than you do. Children are no longer your legacy. I honestly don’t know what is.
/r/MGTOW218/02/19 07:49 PM
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I get the same. Late 30s, clean divorce behind me, no kids, no loss of assets. Paid off my house as well. No debts. I’m looking to purchase a rental property shortly. I give myself the gift of time off (under employment), and travel (Europe, hiking, etc). I’m on track to retire by 50-55; assuming I don’t get bored. I date 20 somethings for pump and dump action.
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 05:30 PM
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Trust me gents; it’s just not worth it. I know we are biologically programmed to protect, be providers, and raise a family. I struggle with that impulse on my lower days. It’s nice to be “loved” and be told “your the best thing that ever happened to me”. Woman know this and use it as manipulation. Don’t fall for the trap. Yet after one divorce (6 year relationship, 2 years married- no kids, no support obligations, no loss of equity) and a 2 year relationship with a girl 15 years younger than me …
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 04:43 PM
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Hive mind. Thank you feminism. That and to quote Terrance Popp; the need for more cocks!
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 03:49 PM
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I don’t hate women; in fact I rather enjoy their company when the drama switch is not on. If it is, they get dropped like a bad habit. That being said, marriage and dating in western society is essentially suicide. Especially in the case of marriage. With the ones sided laws that cater to a women’s whims, and feminisms destruction of the nuclear family, more and more men are opting out. Sexual liberation is one thing, but lack of responsibility for your reproductive choices and outright whoring …
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 03:41 PM
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100% accurate. I had an ex that would post this fantastical narrative of how happy she was; I love my boyfriend (me) - she didn’t. I love the great gift he bought me - scoffed at it with disinterest when I gave it to her. I love the vacation we went on - bitched and was a bitch the whole time. Women love fiction and fantasy novels - social media gives them the ability to create a fantastical narrative and keep up with the Jones.
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 03:11 PM
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Classic and an element of truth. I stay exclusively in the fun zone; while on vacation and under an assumed name. Marriage and relationships are not worth it. Enjoy your life and fuck the wife and kids trope.
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 02:36 PM
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Nothing stronger than the power of compound interest. Spending next to no cash on women gives me the ability to give myself the gift of time- time off work. I’m at the point that I under employ myself. Being late 30s, paid off house, and no debts. The key - no kids and a short marriage with no strings attached when I was blue pill. If all goes well, I’m done working at 50-55. When I feel like pussy, I hook up while travelling - no strings attached. I get my emotional support from friends and fam…
/r/MGTOW218/02/19 01:21 PM
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Never engage in cohabitation, marriage or procreation. You are signing your own financial, psychological and emotional death warrant. Unless you have nothing to loose in all regards. The way the laws are written, you can be paying for a short 2-3 year relationshit for years to come. It’s not worth in; just fuck her and get her to go.
/r/MGTOW218/02/19 12:22 PM
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She’s already re-writing social media history. (Relationship history) All posts about her “the most amazing man I ever met”, “absolute best boyfriend”, “thankful for such an amazing person....” blah blah blah. Are taken down. Any she can’t, she editing them like I was a gay friend or something. Pruning the decks for the next simp. I would have never denied or disavowed the relationship. Talk about no honour (a distinctly male trait)
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 02:36 AM
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To the gang; Thanks for the reply’s. I’m not new to the nature of women. I was married for a brief period of time and was divorced when I caught the ex cheating with a Chad. Luckily I escaped with all my assets, no kids and no support. I took the RedPill then; but I’m a social guy and still like to interact with women. After the blue pill programming wore off, I view them as temporary distractions without breaking the cardinal rules of never marry, cohabitate or impregnate. This current relation…
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 02:28 AM
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I fully expect a sling back in about 6mo. Lol It's just the lameness of the excuses. I will always value our time together. (No you won't) I want to work on myself. (What does having someone who treats you good have to do with that. Heck they might actually emotional support you) I want to go back to school. (January semester has started. School does not start until September) You treated me so well. (Then why are you breaking up - logic would be that you want it to continue) I'd have a 1000x mo…
/r/MGTOW17/02/19 06:58 PM
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That’s how it goes with women. You treat them well, they fuck the Chad. Stay away, or be the Chad and be willing to walk off the lot on a moments notice. Don’t spend your resources on her and spend them on yourself!
/r/MGTOW17/02/19 03:22 PM
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Happy birthday man! I’m 14 years older than yourself, but you have to realize that you are always alone. It was a striking realization I had and one I struggled with and to a lesser extent am still struggling with. Women make you even more alone when you realize that past deeds rendered have no bearing on current loyalty. She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. Compared to most of the world, Canadian women are downright toxic-worst then the rest. It is the socialist society. In life all you can co…
/r/MGTOW17/02/19 01:49 PM
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In today’s age, you should never commit to one woman. I’m not advocating PUA mentality but backing a horse that has a 50%+ chance of you loosing half your stuff, and a 100% chance of you being miserable is just illogical. If you follow a normal distribution curve, your SMV is highest from mid 30 - mid 40s. Trust me; I’ve been married for a short time. Ended in my mid 30s. I now bang women 1/2 my age. Best thing that ever happened to me.
/r/MGTOW17/02/19 05:27 AM
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Enjoy the freedom. Learn from the experience and never go back to the plantation. Repeat these like a mantra: Never marry (again) Never procreate (again) Never co-habituate (again) If you do get involved with a woman (I get the biological need); wrap it, take it with you and remember that she is never yours, it’s just your turn.
/r/MGTOW17/02/19 05:08 AM
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Talk about pissing in the pool with that lecture/ad/pierce of social engineering. The backlash in a few quarters I think will be monumental. I can get good quality razors that are “no name”, and have a new one every week for a few pennies. I never understood the 4 and 5 razor nonsense - 2 blade safety razor is all I’ve ever needed
/r/MGTOW217/02/19 02:56 AM
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