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I'm getting so old now, can't keep up with this new lingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:12 PM
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Men going their own way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:09 PM
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I mean I guess? There's still plenty of men who may desire woman but it's mostly just desperation or want to have sex. It's not like y'all are meeting high quality attractive men otherwise it wouldn't be so much complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:07 PM
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I think it's for the better personally. A lot of men default to putting women on this high pedestal just for existing. The constant rejections and feeling undesired suck but it brings men back to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:49 PM
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Would love to hear your thoughts about some of the top comments on here since it’s woman expressing their interest in younger looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 11:27 PM
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I’m not disagreeing, I actually wrote as much in my own comment. I just thought it was interesting that there’s such a heavy emphasis on older men “improving their value” but when I go out it’s mostly younger men having dates/going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:31 PM
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I have no idea what that second statement is that you quoted since I never wrote that. But on to the original point I can see how it could be talking about maturity but the post heavily implies physical attraction. Either way no amount of speculation matters unless OP clarifies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:28 PM
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It’s interesting to hear woman vocalize their desire for younger guys haha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:10 PM
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Did you read the post? It’s clearly talking about physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:09 PM
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Most people peak in their 20’s physically and that’s ok. After 30 you’re mostly just maintaining your appearance. You objectively have more collagen, more youthfulness, and able to snap back quicker all in your 20’s compared to 30’s onwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:06 PM
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You’re almost 30 so yes it’s very important to have your own place. Women love men that are stable, ambitious, and have things going on. That being said… I’ve seen girls get donkey fucked in club bathrooms and fucked on an air bed with my laundry on it. 💀
/r/seduction07/04/26 05:47 PM
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It’s not really “easy” as much as it’s getting older as a man allows you to gather more knowledge, traveling, money, charisma, all things that contribute to a man’s attractiveness.
/r/seduction16/12/25 04:37 AM
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Usually doesn’t go anywhere and I don’t have time for that. When I was 18 I didn’t mind getting rejected but at 33 constant rejection takes its toll.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:29 AM
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😭😭 watching Kevin Samuels videos were straight entertainment (laced with uncomfortable truth bombs). Good times
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:37 AM
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I always thought shaming women for what they want is futile. No amount of shame will ever make a women consider a man who makes less money, is shorter, and not social.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:33 AM
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Men were sold a dream…. It’s that simple. Lots of nerds or alternative guys thinking once they make 100k+ at 34 and have an established life they’ll be flooded with dating opportunities. Women don’t suddenly change their requirements or preferences, as we like to say. They still want a 6’4 man that towers over them. They still want a man that’s a millionaire. They still want a great jawline and lean muscular build. You really think after 15 years of getting bent over, shaking ass on a yatch, get…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:31 PM
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😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:07 PM
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I was gonna say many guys tend to compromise. 😅 And OP is somehow using men as a benchmark to justify why she herself shouldn’t lower her standards but dating for men and women is so different it can’t be compared.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:02 PM
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Have you met many guys? Lmao. Many guys will (oftentimes) settle with the first woman that they can get with. If you don’t want to lower your standards that’s great but don’t bring guys into it to justify why.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:53 PM
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Regardless of what people want to think unattractive people and attractive people alike are going to desire attractive people. Dating is inherently unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:51 PM
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Pretty much this. 😅 It’s hard not to see when observing real life and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:38 PM
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There was no “attempt” I just made an astute observation and called it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 12:07 AM
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How would I know? Lmao. I’m just finding this thread, I didn’t participate in yesterday’s post. I wouldn’t really take what many guys say here at face value. I highly recommend reading post from r/askmen or r/askmenover30 for a more accurate depiction of how guys feel about approaching. Most guys simply aren’t approaching woman these days and the statistics bear that out. Many guys dislike getting rejected or fear being perceived as creepy. And Most sexually successful men in real life likely wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:58 PM
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“Most men here have not approached a ton of women. Most of them have maybe asked out 1 or 2 women IRL (not online) then gave up after rejection.” Is what you wrote in your last post. Yet you are saying the opposite here. So which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:39 PM
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Completely agree with this take here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:09 PM
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In the movie theaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:33 PM
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I'm going to go against the grain and say I (mostly) agree with you. Is it technically healthy? No... but who gives a crap. I want a woman that sees me as a trophy obsession be dammed. 🤷🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:08 PM
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In general I think women create the space for men they find attractive to approach them (long eye contact, a smile, etc) There’s been some women that have approached me but it’s rare.
/r/seduction20/04/25 01:51 PM
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Pretty much. Theres heavy data that backs that up that women are the bigger consumers and men will do whatever to appease their women of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:15 PM
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This has always been the case. I know several guys that will intentionally breakup with their girlfriends or pretend to be sick because they can’t be bothered with going on extravagant dinners or luxurious rooftops. Men got tired of frivolously spending money and not getting reciprocation. Edit: guess the truth hurts. 🤷🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:11 PM
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It’s not even that deep. If I was a women I wouldn’t approach either because there’s no incentive to. There are dozens of men that are willing to take the burden of approaching to make something happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:10 AM
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Agreed this post is hilariously tone deaf. Most guys are just happy to have an average women that they are somewhat compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:37 PM
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This doesn’t match my experience personally. Sure, there’s been some women that needed my financial support but it’s mainly been other men that were quick to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:47 AM
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Totally valid point and thanks for sharing. At 18 I was super horny so I can’t even imagine quitting at that point in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:42 PM
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Yeah. Some guys tend to not respond favorably to other guys who are getting interest (or possible harassment in this case) from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:38 PM
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What made you stop caring about women after High School? That’s a man’s peak sexual phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:10 PM
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This is my exact reasoning too. It’s far too much effort for so little in return. I think people tend to gloss over how redundant the whole dating process is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:56 PM
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You would’ve been right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:53 PM
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When I was younger and inexperienced I would’ve called this cap but having lived life you speak facts. When women want you they’ll make it known. Had a girl stare at me HARD for 5 seconds and said that her friend liked me or the time a girl bent over and made me choke her in the middle of the dance floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:52 PM
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An “average random woman” is exactly what most guys would love to have in their life, especially if she’s fit. It’s fine if you don’t find her attractive but to say most guys wouldn’t be interested is disingenuous at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:40 PM
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Yeah, it’s especially odd if you’re meeting her in real life. Why wouldn’t I just get her number and message her directly? Instagram requires me following her and then DM’ing her with 40 other randos in her messages.
/r/seduction25/01/25 07:05 AM
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This sounds great on paper. The issue is when you get rejected constantly with no sense of progression (which is very common). This has actually caused more harm in my self esteem and makes me wary of making a move because most of the time I can predict the women won’t want to move forward. It’s a shame too because I’m not even a shy person but I don’t enjoy getting rejected over and over.
/r/seduction25/01/25 07:01 AM
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It really is that simple. 😅 Sex really motivates most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:41 PM
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I mean a woman who finds me attractive and that I would like to hook up with are half the battle. Even an active Onlyfans or opposite political view aren’t dealbreakers enough unless other things came up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:39 PM
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Personally a good partner. I'm currently in my good job which has been through networking, good recommendations, & consistently putting out great work. It's formulaic, sure, but there's a solid path to get there. Dating in comparison feels way more unpredictable and uncertain. Women will get the"ick", can't make certain jokes, and rejection feels more personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:47 AM
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That seems common especially for early 20’s. You aren’t as money conscious and just graduating college so financial security isn’t the biggest priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:01 PM
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Most men don’t discriminate against women who still live at home and welcome it. A guy who still lives home won’t have nearly the same privacy level for a women to let loose and get around naked. Also having your own place as a man shows at least some degree of financial security. It’s a double standard but one I kinda get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:00 PM
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I think some people here are glossing over how fucking painful it is to get rejected multiple times. It can potentially destroy your self esteem. However! It’s no excuse to not approach. I don’t know how old you are but if you’re under 30 you should definitely be talking to women and if it becomes too much, take a break. You have plenty of time to be jaded and cynical as you get older and your dick doesn’t work but today isn’t that day.
/r/seduction17/07/24 11:46 PM
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Water is wet….
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:05 PM
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I agree, an average guy is getting ignored the vast majority of time. If you never got lots of female attention before you aren’t suddenly getting it when you reach 30 and make slightly more money. And even then, any increased attention from women is only because their standards have decreased slightly or have become more accommodating since the guys they really want don’t want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:34 PM
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Men aren’t going to suddenly stop pursuing women overnight so this “point” seems wildly disingenuous. The post literally says that guys will always want women more. Additionally women have a choice in pursuing guys they’re attracted to if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:30 PM
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Just about any guy 25+ that I know personally despises having to jump through hurdles just to appeal to a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:36 AM
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Honestly, probably. Men seem very capable finding hobbies, seeking out friends, enjoying time with family, fulfillment in work, among other things. The main thing(s) do tend to be mental health and sex/relationships. Like money, it won't take every single problem away but there'd be substantially less complaining about how difficult dating is ( and this sub likely wouldn't exist).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:34 AM
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You really articulated excellently why I lost a lot of interest in dating. It’s just so hard to tolerate flaking, ghosting, dry responses after experiencing a women that really went above and beyond for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:42 PM
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Referring to women as “birds” seems oddly condescending to me. Anyway, this feels more like a young person problem (25 and under). As relationships become more evolved and complex I don’t see many guys feeling friendzoned but rather embracing female friendships or communicating that they have issue with being a friend to her while having feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:04 PM
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Who cares anyway? Most Guys can barely get attention anyway when they have decent bodies, their dicks work, have a full head of hair, and good career prospects when they're actually young. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:45 AM
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She’d have to be trying to strive for something better but in general I don’t harshly judge women based on their income. My ex was making like $12 an hour part time and living with a relative and it never affected my attraction towards her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:04 PM
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I think guys are more emotionally monogamous but it’s mostly tied to the fact that relationships and sex for the average man is not as common. If any average guy could casually have sex whenever we’d be far more indifferent than women ever could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:52 PM
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Unattractive or fat women are seen as an easy target to many guys. They’re not as intimidating and you likely won’t put them on a pedestal so the interaction isn’t as anxiety inducing either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:55 AM
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(Many) guys can easily get by with sex alone for a long while. You can still cuddle, hold hands, and be physically intimate with friends with benefits. The main caveat is that most guys aren’t sexually desirable enough to women to just have sex. On the other hand I do think many guys crave relationships as they want something more significant, want to create a family, deeper emotional connection, that kind of stuff. Generally speaking I don’t think guys care much about the burden of responsibili…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:42 AM
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You didn’t read the post in full. They are saying if someone finds you attractive at a BASELINE on top of having Status and money then it will amplify their desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:07 PM
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Money doesn’t make a women more attractive though since it’s understood that men don’t benefit from her wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:05 PM
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(Generally speaking) Many people have to understand a neutral relationship for an average guy is far better than no relationship. Yeah, she might send thirst traps on Instagram or talk to an ex occasionally. But it’s better than being alone for another 4 years with no attention or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:16 AM
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Not necessarily. I don't particularly enjoy talking but it takes getting out your comfort zone and being a engaging person. It's still possible to have a decent dating life as long as you put some effort in interacting with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:37 PM
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Hot guys who never went to college (there’s lots of them) will always get attention from women. Average guys will remain (mostly) invisible to women regardless if they attend college or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:52 PM
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I imagine many guys would love to be a house husband especially since the option is almost never seriously considered or viable for the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:30 AM
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He probably isn't attractive enough to get attractive 30 something year olds without kids, much less younger women. I do agree that he should've focused all the money (and time) he had into something more fruitful/better return on investment rather than a pre-made family but alas can't turn back time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:20 PM
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If you are desperate for love and sex, which many guys are, like OP’s stepfather, then being single and having no sex is a worse fate. Hell, taking care of a kid that wasn’t his and pursuing a single mother probably was a highlight in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:06 PM
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Dude is not even a loser. He's not even playing. I mean... He doesn't even has biological kids of his own and spend the rest of his life looking after another dude's kids and a woman who wouldn't have even glanced at her if she wasn't in a disadvantageous position? For as dreary as this sounds life as a single, sexless man is probably far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:21 PM
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So get used by women overseas is the option I mean it's better than getting used by women in the States. At least get something out of it if you're going to get used anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:56 PM
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Which is playing out in real life. Guys are leaving the dating market in record numbers because they realize they’ll never succeed. And the guys that still want to find romance, the “Passport Bros” will go to other countries to pursue women and stand out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:43 PM
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Life as an average man pertaining to dating is just a bizarre experience….. you could have great hygiene, a solid job, have family and friends, have hobbies, dress well, be social, and have a good physique and never have success with romantic/sexual relationships. Essentially you can “do everything right” and it wouldn’t guarantee success. Typically when someone does something repeatedly you usually get much better but many times, from my observation, many guys don’t really make it far with dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:39 PM
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I agree with OP. I regularly hear the average guy consider himself “lucky that she gave me a chance” or “Hopefully she text me back, I’m surprised I got her number.” It makes sense. When guys barely get any positive reinforcement it’s no wonder they don’t think of themselves highly. By contrast, I’ve seen fat, unattractive women reject good looking, tall guys. Again, it makes sense because guys are praising these women in attempt to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:22 PM
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Second this. It’s mostly close friends or family that comment, otherwise it’s a barren wasteland.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:23 PM
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Yeah, I'm saying height is the one that majority of men can't get. But things like having a purpose, attaining a good physique, being emotionally intelligent, etc are all things many guys can actually achieve. So I don't think women have "unrealistic standards" for wanting these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:39 PM
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Yeah, most women can technically appeal to most guys easily and have fulfilling relationships. By contrast, it seems like only very few guys can appeal to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:12 PM
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To be fair most of this is achievable for many guys outside of being 6'2.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:06 PM
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Men may fantasize about hot women but we know that we likely won't ever get her, it remains a fantasy. Most guys are just happy to have a mildly attractive women that's really into them. Women truly believe that they're entitled to the really hot guy that millions of other women want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:04 PM
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The Herculean effort it takes. You have to engage the women without being creepy, you get her number, you plan and pay for the date, you continue to build rapport, you escalate to sex without giving her the ick. Every step of the way the man is required to take the initiative and it gets tiring. The constant rejection doesn't make this any better. After a while most guys come to the conclusion dating isn't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:41 PM
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Good question. I personally didn't ask them but I have a friend who does one of those street interviews on YouTube. He asked several people on the street here in NYC what's been the longest time they've been single for. I would say 80% of the guys had been single for a long time and these guys were maybe in their early to mid 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:08 PM
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Exactly exceptions don’t make the rule. In my observation, most guys that have girlfriends or wives are either really tall or super charismatic. Most guys in my social circle or observe on the street are chronically single with no options in site. They easily go years without ever dating or having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:17 AM
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Many guys today know exactly how fucked they are. They know many women don’t truly desire them, they know that these women have options, they are happy to have an average women or even below average women because they have no one checking for them. It’s the reason why women can casually have sex with many guys and not have to worry about “her past” because the average man has no choice but to accept it. What’s he going to do anyway, shrink back into lonely nights? Of course there’s average guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:15 AM
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This is the only type of romantic/sexual situation that I would be emotionally invested in since I know the women desires me. Anything else I don’t want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:31 AM
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Right… It seems like a good fit at first but people will naturally change in their teens to their 20’s and feelings may change and people drift apart. At least when you meet someone at an older age they are most likely settled in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:28 AM
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You can make a counter argument that older love is just as valid as young love. Despite going through trauma, baggage, possible divorce, less tolerance for BS, increased standards the special person who you end up with will likely stick it out and has the experience to navigate difficult times.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:26 AM
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Well.... yeah. I've never said otherwise personally. Women tend to be much better at living life completely independent of men whereas men have a hunger for women that's borderline insatiable. This also factors that women tend to have better social networks, check in with people in their life better, etc that lead to more fulfilling lives. The fact that women don't crave sex as much as guys certainly helps too. Edit: Guys that have left the dating market or either in long term relationships or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:15 PM
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Many guys will blindly keep the relationship going because it fills an empty void in their life. Easy and frequent access to sex, companionship, shared memories, potentially leaving a legacy, etc. Many guys aren't really thinking of the potential ramifications and if they are they're likely opted out of dating in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:29 PM
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No because it goes outside their comfort zone and they likely know they'll get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:26 PM
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I hate to admit it but life for many guys just isn't worth living if you don't have a women backing you up. You feel inspired, you feel ready to tackle a day, you have memories to share, potentially have a family, it staves off the chronic loneliness most men feel. Usually guys will just watch porn, work enough to make ends meet, play video games when there's no women in their life. Life has no real meaning. That's truly how many guys feel ....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:24 PM
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I'm getting to this place as well. Finding fulfillment in friends, (some) family, traveling, new hobbies, cooking, etc. It's a bit monotonous at times but I have my own purpose I want to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:18 PM
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I've been traveling a lot this year. All the money that would've went to dating and finding a partner will be going towards more international traveling and saving quicker for retirement. Also, I have a FWB arrangement to handle my sexual needs. I think I'll be ok overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:14 PM
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I agree completely. Dating in High School and College were some of the best years to date. Always had a great time engaging, learned how to take rejection, learned how to flirt, learned how to spot a Catfish, learned how to unhook a women's bra with one hand, and so many other invaluable lessons. Learning this stuff in your late 20's has to be anxiety inducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:53 PM
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I would've remained a virgin after High School if I didn't have an older women who wanted to hook up with me. It got easier afterwards but most guys just get anxious and freeze up/don't know what the hell to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:51 PM
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I live in NYC and there's plenty of sex workers in a certain neighborhood here in Brooklyn that just walk around. And as others have said, online is easy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:50 PM
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I think when you get constantly rejected, get ghosted, always have to initiate, dry text responses, decreased interest, it's pretty easy to become numb to it all. I've felt like this recently, just too much of me engaging and not enough reciprocating to justify dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:47 PM
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But if the opportunity presented itself surely you would jump at it though right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:45 PM
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Sad but true. Most guys want to be active in dating but instantly get burned out by "women having high standards" or feel they're not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:44 PM
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I feel you on this. I've also gone years without anything happening and you just can't help but feel undesirable and unwanted due to missing out so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:42 PM
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Yeah but you should be meeting women eventually. Maybe they won't immediately be your type or you might have some setbacks but a kiss or special date should be happening.Constantly going out to events or meetups and not getting women after several years implies that the guy unfortunately might be below average or exhibit some odd behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:41 PM
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I strongly encourage anyone to date when younger. It's better to learn a lot of the hard lessons of dating at a young age and it's also more carefree in my experience. After college you have to go out of your way to socialize and meet up with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:38 PM
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Looking back what would you have done differently? I don't consider myself a looker either but I was extremely active in dating as a young guy, constantly approached women, always had dates, and overall had some cool memories. I do feel bad for guys who didn't try much at a younger age because it's undoubtedly harder as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:36 PM
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I have a small group of 25 adults that I support with life skills. All but one of the girls have a boyfriend or dating someone. For the guys? Only two of the guys have girlfriends and they happen to be over 6 feet. Every other guy was not only single but chronically so. They hadn't been on dates, they weren't flirting with girls, they were just invisible average guys that were undesirable to the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:32 PM
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This pretty much sums it up. Women almost will never need AI because they can always have some guys that will like them, express interest, and want to date/have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:10 PM
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Men are the lonelier gender so men will have far more interest in AI girlfriends. To be fair I don't know a single guy in my social circle be interested in this and I suspect the guys that would want AI partners wouldn't have been good with dating in the current market anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:03 PM
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It seems like you know why you don’t want to get married so what’s the point of this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:03 AM
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Context is important. When talking about standards it’s almost always talking about physical standards. Not all, but many guys, tend to be nice enough, have decent jobs, have hobbies, have some friends they vibe with, all things that women would tend to like. What separates guys is their height, appearance, their physique, things like that. Many women tend to (strongly) prefer guys that are 6 feet or taller. This preference (understandably) creates lots of bitterness and resentment for many guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:04 AM
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This is arguably one of the worse post I've ever seen on here.... and that's saying a lot. Why weren't women just as wealthy and educated years 100 years ago? Surely it couldn't be more equitable opportunities to take advantage of as the workplace has become more inclusive? Surely it can't be that feminism opened the floodgates for women to pursue their academic and professional development endeavors? Surely it can't be that women are less stigmatized for not wanting to be mothers? 🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:03 PM
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I strongly disagree, I think guys have a good grasp of how attractive they are. I rarely see guys go for supermodels or attractive IG girls, they typically go for your average everyday women. There’s some guys I’ve interacted with that refer to themselves as “NPC’s” and “a background character.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:31 AM
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Luckily for you inexperienced men are a dime a dozen so you'll have no issue having a relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:02 PM
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Many young guys are priced out of the current dating market these days. We might not encourage guys to stay virgins but the increased expectations are resulting in several men being virgins anyway. Also, women don't value male virgins nearly as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:59 PM
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You nailed it. Most women really do desire and want the same guy. Even if the guys are different races, voices they’ll almost always be tall, in shape, have a nice looking face, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:09 PM
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As has been said hundreds of times, yes, most men have almost no limit of what they find attractive. They find almost any kind of women attractive whereas many women tend to have an extremely narrow range of guys they find attractive. “80% of men are found to be unattractive to women.” Most young guys are not having sex and are chronically single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:06 PM
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Why not get married? From my observation men strongly hate being single and even bitter about it. Most guys do want a women to be with, to love, and to share memories with. Yes, you can do this in a long term relationship but most guys aren’t thinking of “what if she divorces me?” You marry with the intention of staying together and growing a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:46 PM
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Generally speaking lack of charisma and social confidence is a death sentence for most men. Unless you are seriously good looking women will just be friendly and let you down and offer to be a friend but NEVER a sexual prospect. In comparison, being awkward as a women could even be a plus. It means you're likely to miss the cues of a guy flirting, the guy feels more comfortable making mistakes (because you won't judge him), etc. For men, there has to be as little error as humanly possible to att…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:44 PM
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Yet the average guy cannot get a women interested in him to save their life. Most guys want a regular women that desires him. Only fans, porn, sex workers, all of this is just a cheap replacement for wanting a women that actually wants you and isn't settling for you. And most guys today won't get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:18 AM
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Tall women create their own dating issues. There's plenty of guys that would love to date women taller but the men know intuitively that the women will likely reject him. The reason guys tend to get bitter about the height preference is because the vast majority of women share that same preference. You can't naturally change your height so your stuck with the knowledge that you are undesirable for a physical attribute you never wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:20 PM
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This is exactly it. The average guy is simply invisible. Average women might not get the guy they’re attracted to but they’re definitely having guys get them attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:21 PM
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Exactly, being your average guy means you are invisible by default. Women, even ugly ones, can still Garner attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:41 PM
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Generally speaking your average guy would happily date/hook up/ marry your average women. According to data (which I would happily link) 63% of men are not in relationships and I suspect it’s not out of choice. The majority of guys DO fantasize about the hot chick but it’s just that, a fantasy. Many guys know damn well they’re not getting with some model.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:54 PM
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Best comment here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:33 PM
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You sure like replying to my comments huh? Go spend time with your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:47 PM
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Indeed. And there shouldn't be! Your an adult and entitled to use social media for whatever purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:46 PM
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Many guys, not all, have a strong preference for women to not use social media as it tends to be an easy way for women to get attention from other men/unwanted DM's. Also, hot take from a man's perspective, women not using social media means that there's less men that will interact with her which is a control thing. Insecure guys want their women to have as little communication with other men as humanly possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:44 PM
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So you agree with me then? If some men have choosing power then inversely most men don't have many options, if at all. And in the 2nd half of your comment yeah, there will be women who want to move the relationship along, that's perfectly normal and valid. I don't recall saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:11 PM
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Definitely this. As long as a women is mildly attractive to the man and she finds him attractive many things can be sorted out eventually. Looks are important but they're far from the be all end all. I personally think a women's attitude is what truly separates her from the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:02 PM
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Most guys would be pretty happy to have an alright looking women if it meant that she was loyal, didn't need validation from other men, didn't use much social media, and was feminine. In 2023 that's equivalent to hitting a mini lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:59 PM
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Most Men really just take what they can get both casually and relationship wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:48 PM
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The mental gymnastics in these comments is fucking hilarious. I'll happily stay single if it means I'm not some third option since a women couldn't get the man she really wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:44 PM
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Agreed, I don't think it's so much women "mature as they age" its more that women can have sex with these attractive guys and then realize they aren't going to provide commitment so they're forced to find it in guys they wouldn't have considered before.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:42 PM
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Poor dude is going to get crumbs compared to the hot guys that were blowing her back out. Life is brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:34 PM
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I think one of the main reasons why guys are so brutally honest about dating dynamics is because it’s extremely difficult for most of us. There’s really no thin veil or safety net to blind men of the unfavorable conditions of dating. It’s daunting, it’s frustrating, and men just accept reality for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:30 AM
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They can sleep with those men but will those attractive men actually commit to them? Probably not. Which creates a slight bitterness in women from what I see. Completely agree with everything else however, guys with no options may very well date the very first girl that shows any interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:40 PM
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What do mean “chose not to listen” if I fit the criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:47 PM
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Can I see source of some kind to back up what you’re saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:58 PM
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Possibly. I think Gen Z grew up on social media and the prevalence of Tik Tok has severely affected their ability to talk with women. When you constantly see women sharing that they only desire 6’4 guys with great bodies they become discouraged and just quit abruptly. 10 years ago at the age of 19 I was still talking to women and even used online dating a ton and had some success. Now all I hear are 18, 19, and 20 year old guys that are disgruntled and it just blows my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:45 PM
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Honestly I don’t know, I’m trying to figure that out myself as my current career is demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:55 PM
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I notice many guys tend to perceive themselves as vastly unattractive. I’ve heard many average guys consider themselves “just an NPC” or “I don’t have a chance in hell” or “She’s way out of my league.” Even the most average or even below average women tend to have significantly more confidence as I’m sure almost every guy is telling them how cute they are in attempt to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:33 PM
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Having more visibility and chances to find romantic relationships is priceless, especially in a time where majority of men struggle hard. Most people hate their job anyway and it’s usually just a means to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:05 PM
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I would prefer to be Guy A. If you’re tall and really attractive women will be far more tolerant of you having a low end career. Hell, they might even take care of you. I know plenty of guys who make a really comfortable living but you can tell they’re miserable because it’s almost impossible to get a date or get interest in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:00 PM
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I can’t speak on behalf of “most single people” since I don’t know them but I find being single fairly boring. I strongly prefer having someone to take plans with on weekends, having stupid inside jokes, having that +1 when I’m at a company party, or even just someone to cheer you up when you had a rough day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:10 AM
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Be well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:15 PM
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Not really though. For guys just being able to casually have sex gets lots of their needs met. If they're successfully dating they have the time to find who they want to be with. And finding the right person that aligns with your life takes time anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:04 PM
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Men are literally a bottomless pit of sexual desire. Most men I know have almost no limit of how far or how willing they are to be sexual. In contrast, most women I know have very hard boundaries and limits on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:45 PM
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I'm guessing these are guys that could be in relationships but choose not to since they're casually having sex which that would count as successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:32 PM
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I've always thought that women were going for the very guys that they would always end up being with, they just wanted to have fun when they were younger. The more desirable guys don't have to settle down or commit so the women will likely get frustrated and go find that elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:29 PM
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Largely depends on the man. Outside of rare exceptions I strongly believe that guys that had no success at all in their 20's probably won't be better in your 30's. For me, I had moderate success with dating and have since lost 40 pounds, grown my hair out, have more money, and have done fine with women. Also, women in their late 20's and early 30's tend to let go of their more superficial standards allowing guys to have higher success rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:27 PM
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Women that don’t care at all? Very small minority I would imagine, maybe 3-4%? In my experience most women do care but have varying levels of how important it is. I’ve been somewhat surprised at the “I prefer shorter guys” although I suspect that’s after being with plenty of tall guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:31 AM
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But he’ll almost never get the chance to use it since he’ll be glossed over.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:21 AM
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Yeah, same here. Never thought about it previously. I just figured “if I just have a good enough personality and decent job I can manage pretty well.” Started seeing Til Toks of how desirable tall height was which made me think “Is short height somehow bad?” And it’s not even some women, it’s like over 90% have a strong visceral reaction to taller guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:20 AM
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I’m not surprised at all. Many would consider 5’8 short while 5’10 would be objectively a decent height.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:04 AM
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I do agree that generally speaking women will do whatever to disqualify a guy. "His shirt is too tight" or "I don't like his smile." Women can afford to dismiss hundreds of guys simply for not "being her type." What I disagree with is men ignoring all red flags for the sake of being with a women. I never contacted a girl again because her apartment was dirty as hell and it turned me off. I could've had sex with her but cleanliness means a lot to me. Another girl wanted to be with me but she curs…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:03 PM
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Women being lusted after is cheap though. It takes nothing for a man to want to lust after a women and fuck her…. Does the man deeply care about this women and actively ask her questions? Does he want to protect and care for her? Be honest and use effective communication when things are not smooth? What truly matters is a man who chooses to stay after he’s had sex with a women, not how fuckable a women is after she leaves her peak. I know plenty of 21 year old guys that would fuck the local 44 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:37 AM
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Have to give you credit, this is unpopular.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:28 AM
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I would reframe this by saying most women don’t find men in general attractive, only a very small amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:19 AM
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I don’t even think this is unpopular. I would go as far as to say that men are a bottomless pit of sexual desire. There’s no limit to how horny and sexual men are whereas many women I’ve encountered have a hard limit or boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:18 AM
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Completely agree. most guys are alone and lack sexual intimacy in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:11 AM
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Sounds like one of my friends. He’s desperately trying to find many alternatives to growing a beard at 29 meanwhile I’ve had a full beard since I was 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:53 PM
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I would imagine the vast majority of women would be repulsed at being talked down at, especially in western countries regardless of how much money the man has. Women would probably remain single than be some rich guys lap dog that will obediently listen to his every command contrary to what many guys in a certain group might think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:41 AM
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I’m not even a women and this sounds like a terrible deal to me. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:26 PM
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It’s really that simple. Men will always want to overwhelmingly be with a women. So a women having makeup makes almost no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:37 AM
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The lack of makeup isn’t the equalizer you think it is. Even if women are natural men still would overwhelmingly thirst over women. Men, at large, still would find most women attractive and women, even if they have no makeup to enhance their look, will still prefer a small minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:33 AM
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Wish I knew this when I was younger, would’ve saved me days of anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:47 PM
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Lmaooo. No one is telling men that are 30 to find a wife in their 20's. Most men hit their stride in their 30's and it's acceptable for a man to seek out a women and settle down with them. Maybe when you're mid 40's then sure, you should've used that time a decade ago and find a partner. Edit: Also "working on yourself" doesn't have to take years, which seems to be implied in the OP. With effort, you can get decent improvement in just a year. (Examples: Losing 40 pounds, making an additional 10k…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:14 PM
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I find mostly toxic girls would be more inclined to be ok with a man having other options (another women likes my man teehee). However, in my opinion and observation, most healthy women that set boundaries do not want the guy they like entertaining other women, it would likely be a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:11 AM
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I’m definitely not a “Chad” and even I’ve had women approach me, it’s hardly a “20% attractive guys only” thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:24 AM
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Fair enough, by the way it wasn’t meant as an attack! Just an observation I was making. I think we all decide what things we truly value and then hope that we find partner(s) who align with that. Happy your in a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:31 PM
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As a guy who is just above that I feel kinda weird being in these discussions since I’m not tall or short. I’m just…. There.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:17 PM
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It may be a coincidence but I do find it interesting how women will prefer a shorter guy but then magically end up with a taller guy. And it’s not usually a one off thing, many women have said this both online and in real life. It’s a meme at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:12 PM
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Just out of curiosity is there any correlation that the shorter guys ended up being in a LTR while the taller guys were just casual hook ups? In other words short man = safe and Tall man = Fun
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:09 PM
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To be fair, she did say her family of men is very tall so her perception is probably extremely skewed of what the average man looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:06 PM
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Was just thinking the same thing. She prefers average height men but just so happens to date a 6 foot man. Teehee.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:02 PM
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100%. More often than not a tall women will not even entertain the idea of a guy being shorter. Sure, it may happen every once and a while but women typically always want taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:31 PM
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One of the most common ones I’ve seen recently is shaming women for preferring taller men. “Only 14% of men (in the U.S) are 6 feet and up” or “When you turn 30 you’ll realize that you will have to settle.” I don’t think most of these guys realize you aren’t going to shame a women for wanting what she’s attracted to. Many of the younger guys have became taller so it’s not as rare these days. Women will just stay single and enjoy life until they find someone that’s their match.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:34 AM
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I think you misunderstand what men truly value. I’m sure if many guys had it their way they would prefer agreeableness, nurturing, being a man’s peace, woman who hardly use social media, etc. Men hardly care about a women’s career, her drive, or education level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:47 AM
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Men’s requirements are still shorter than women however the things we really value hold just as much, if not, more weight than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:59 AM
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This is kinda tough. The fit, friendly, feminine, cooperative traits would be like the foundation and are admittedly hard to find in a women alone. Being financially irresponsible and having different political views wouldn’t be ideal but they can be worked on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:17 AM
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Guys generally are just more accepting of women. I’m dating a girl who has a visible skin condition, has low self esteem, and can be socially awkward at times. She’s pleasant to be around, treats me great, and supports my goals. If it was reverse I imagine almost no girl would find me attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:50 PM
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whereas a new fresh pussy every week/month is guaranteed. Uh, maybe if you're cool with paying for escorts, REALLY hot, or gay then sure. Otherwise, most men are chronically single and have few options. Most guys would take a single woman who wants them even if that girl has an extensive past because it beats staying in your bed alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:20 PM
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You’re making too much sense…. Majority of guys that are in their 30’s aren’t going to casually start hooking up with young women, it’s a pipe dream. Unless you look really young or were desirable to begin with you’ll end up with the same limited options you’ve always had.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:55 PM
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I mean I don’t disagree with you in that regard. But do you seriously think those guys are thinking that will happen? Likely they’re just happy that a women wants to be with them, wants to share intimacy, memories, and possibly have kids. That’s why the whole thing about how many guys women sleep with is irrelevant because your average guy will gloss over that because they’re touch starved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:42 PM
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Hate to say it but most guys would settle for a safe marriage if the alternative is not having sex. You severely underestimate how lonely guys get. Most guys are just happy to have a women their age express interest, the average guy isn’t going to be hooking up with women several years younger than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:37 PM
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The most attention I’ve ever gotten at once was after I finished a motivational speech about my journey into social work. I think it was a combination of storytelling, showing my humorous side, and the way I moved the room. I was talking to women back to back for 4 hours straight, felt like a celebrity.
/r/seduction03/04/23 04:13 AM
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I go to dancehall parties here in NYC and 100% agree that when you dance women seem to love it. I think it’s just a huge show of you not taking yourself seriously and being free in the moment.
/r/seduction03/04/23 04:10 AM
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Congratulations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:45 AM
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A women still got to enjoy time with the guy, probably some gifts, intimacy, etc. A guy doesn’t really get anything from being friendzoned outside of knowing he’s not a sexual option. Not really equivalent at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:13 AM
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Generally speaking guys will have with anything. A guy can be 6’4 , make over 100k, and have an amazing physique and would still smash a girl like the friend you described. However just because a man is willing to spend money, time, and engage in conversation doesn’t mean he wants more, he could simply be happy with the sex and never move the relationship forward. I notice many women seem to be confused that a man can operate in this direction but guys see sex as casually as playing ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:02 AM
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Yeah but you’re probably very particular about who your attracted to and don’t want to settle for just anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:57 AM
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Purple pill debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:15 PM
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I do agree this is really the main way to go about it but the sheer amount of rejections the majority of guys will face (particularly of short stature) is incredibly taxing. I don’t see most guys having the resilience to find someone to be brutally honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:14 PM
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Actually I still like making the first move. It would be nice if women came up to me sometimes (because it feels nice to be desired) but I would still make the approach 90% of the time. I just wish women were more receptive or rejected nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:37 PM
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I mean I’m sure most guys know this deep down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:07 AM
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Grandiose sense of importance? I don’t know, all these labels get so convoluted and kinda cringey to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:39 PM
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It’s already happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:10 PM
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Many guys hardly approach women these days. The guys that are doing well with women will continue to do so. The guys with the money can go overseas and be with foreign women. Guys, generally speaking, have realized that modern dating is too much and are doing their own thing. Don’t let this small subreddit make you think that this represents the entirety of men, guys aren’t “wanting” women more. If anything guys really just want sex which is usually the only reason why guys bother to approach at…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:52 PM
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She actually put effort(replied back with thoughtful comments and paid for the 4th and 5th date), was engaging, enthusiastically wants sex, and is overall peaceful to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:56 PM
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“All looks the same in the dark” 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:24 PM
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Because even fat women can afford to be picky. Most average guys are touch starved and aren’t getting much attention. And there are quite a few guys with great physiques that will have sex with these overweight women. Why would a girl work hard to get in shape when she can still get the same access to a man as a women who works out 4-5x a week? 🤷🏽‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:18 PM
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This statement feels half baked. One of men’s primary (traditional)roles is to protect. We wouldn’t expect a women to do that. Not only that but men are hardwired to do so, instinctually. I do agree that dying for your wife is something that men would do more often, but let’s be real, when is there a common situation where this occurs? Furthermore, by your definition if love is measured by how much you sacrifice doesn’t it hold weight when women nurture the men they love when their sick or have …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:09 PM
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I actually have a theory that men only need to merely like the women. I think relationships work best when the women is head over heels for the man and she wants to do everything to make it work. On the opposite end a relationship can still be sustained for a long time if the guy appreciates the sex and companionship that comes with the women. Disturbing, maybe. But in general the guy’s expectations are small and doesn’t need much to feel fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:13 AM
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In my opinion, guys in the bottom 30% should go MGTOW. It's not that they're incapable of "winning", but there is a point at which the juice isnt worth rhe squeeze Harsh but I agree. If you were a guy that never could flirt with a woman and make her laugh quickly, get her number in a few minutes, or you constantly get ghosted or told "We can be friends though" the universe is telling you dating just isn't in the cards for you. There's only so many L's you can take before it's apparent that some …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:12 PM
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I do actually! She's the most feminine woman I've dated and she helps me be a better person. Just because I'm pointing out her "flaws" in a blunt manner doesn't mean I don't like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:07 PM
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I am currently going out with a woman who has vitiligo on her face and body which makes her feel extremely self-conscious about being outside. She also has a lisp and is very tall (just over 6 feet). I joked that if I hardly went outside as she did I would never get a date as it would result in me being invisible. I have to be as visible and attractive as humanly possible to get the greatest success with modern women. Because she has a big butt and guys would fuck anything she can hardly go outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:57 PM
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Sad but true. I notice people will “go out” and take a few cool pics of some activity for a few minutes and then proceed to be on their phone the other 90%. We’re the most connected we’ve ever been but disconnected where it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:01 PM
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YouTube and Tik Tok are easily accessible. They hear their friends talking about it and get interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:58 PM
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I think I was just oblivious as a young dude but I never let that stop me, I just would approach because I really wanted a girlfriend. lol. But it makes sense what you said because there’s some statistic that states a third of men between the ages of 18-29 are either virgins are haven’t had sex in the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:57 PM
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It makes sense. Today’s generation of kids grew up with an iPhone in their hand by the age of 4. There’s not much incentive to go outside when social media opens you up to a new world of drama, news, and keeping up with all your favorite celebrities all with a few taps on your phone. In terms of dating it’s kinda surprising. When I was 18 or 19 I was admittedly too girl focused and chased them all the time. There are young guys that are 17 and they have temporarily given up which I could never r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:53 PM
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Patrice left this earth too soon. He left so much good knowledge about female nature and navigating relationships.
/r/seduction28/10/22 09:37 PM
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There IS no equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:27 PM
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They're more of a catch than some inexperienced guy who doesn't know what to say to women. And in my experience women seem to think so too. I've heard plenty of women who say they wouldn't want a guy with little experience. And they find it more attractive when other women like you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:41 AM
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I agree, this is much more difficult for men with little to no experience. But for men who have dated and hooked up extensively you can pick up on certain behaviors, inflections, body language, and stories from her past that will give you an idea of her sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:56 PM
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You don’t need to know because her past actions indicate that. Does she enjoy getting blasted in the nightclub and potentially hooking up? Is she constantly seeking validation on social media (to bring attention to men)? When she talks about past relationships, did she attend sex parties or maybe “get caught in the moment” and kiss a friend? From what she says and little bits of activities she’s done you can make a guess to how experienced she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:52 PM
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Same here. I’ve always thought I was some horndog that would fuck anything but I’m pretty picky in real life. I rejected a girl 2 weeks ago because her apartment was a mess. I would love a relationship but it’s not worth being around someone I’m not compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:49 AM
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Girls generally still have far more options than guys in almost every age category. Yes, guys tend to peak late 20’s and well into their 30’s but it takes major discipline. You have to have your money in order, be in great shape, charismatic, etc. And you better hope that your hair isn’t receding or have a pot belly from being inactive. In comparison, there was a video that went viral of a 45 year old women with a fat ass and I noticed that men from 18-65 were lusting after this women. Unless a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:45 AM
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In general men don’t care about a women’s height. The only reason guys even care about height is because women typically do. Tall girls can be supermodels, short girls are cute and petite, tall guys are seen as extremely attractive, and short guys are, uh, just there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:55 AM
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That’s exactly how I feel too. I would love to be with a taller women but women are hellbent on their preference for taller guys so if a women is taller than me what are the chances that she would be interested? And the girls that I have went for that were taller never seemed to work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:51 AM
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I love tall women, even prefer them. The only reason why I don’t approach them more often is because there’s an extremely high chance that tall women will reject guys that are less than 6 feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:45 AM
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In my experience they actually do expect the guy to be faithful though. I would argue most women don’t want to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:12 PM
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Being a guy can be so weird at times... You can have cool hobbies, be decently in shape, be great at telling stories, have a good job, be hygienic, etc and still not be successful with women. So essentially you can do everything right and still not match up to a womens standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:33 PM
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I would have a significantly easier time for sure. Dating would actually be fun as I can passively wait for guys to approach me, taking the burden off me to approach. I also would most likely not have to pay for the first one or two dates which save money. If I'm single I can still have easy access to sex while having friends and family, allowing for a very rich social life. The hard part would be worrying about my safety and getting too easily attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:31 PM
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A woman's status/money doesn't add anything to her attractiveness, so that's a useless statement to add. Women may not JUST be attracted to status but it is highly important for many of them. I do think there is a happy medium that most women would like to have but those guys are truly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:14 PM
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Hmmm. Him cheating doesn’t take away the fact that he will still have status and money, so no,he will still be considered (very) valuable. Despite cheating on her he will still have plenty of women after all this. It does mean that his ethics are messed up and his judgement to cheat behind her back make him dishonest/shady.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:16 PM
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Yes, but he should’ve sat her down and informed her of exactly what he was going to do. He took away her autonomy to make a decision by cheating. That way, if she wants the lifestyle and willing to make that trade-off then she will stay. And if she just wants loyalty she can go elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:06 PM
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I think it means sexual market value. Edit: Why did I get downvoted, that's actually what it stands for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:02 PM
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Life comes with trade-offs. Instead of cheating I think Jason should’ve been very transparent and let her know that he has needs outside of her and will utilize those options. Being deceitful and cheating behind her back is not ok. That being said I do think guys with status, looks, and charisma can break the rules. They’ve put in the effort to achieve a top 1% status that allows them to have any women they want. Whether they’ll admit it or not many women want the lifestyle that comes with being…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:01 PM
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Men tend to have better success as they get older but it does come with hard work. Typically the things that make men more attractive take time like being well traveled, being charismatic, being financially stable, having interesting hobbies, etc. Also, just my opinion, but if you weren’t at least moderately successful with women as a younger guy you probably won’t have dramatically different results as a 30 something year old man unless you become a celebrity or a serious glow up.
/r/seduction13/10/22 09:04 PM
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Many guys would happily take a woman who has had her fun in the past if it means not being alone and having to get rejected constantly. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:58 AM
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I agree. The burden of action is completely on the guy to initiate the conversation, be charismatic, be great at storytelling, gauge if she's interested, dress up your language to sound both bold and flirty without being overly sexual. It's a lot of work and it only really equals out in my experience if the girl is very attracted to you or sex happens very early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:48 AM
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This sounds like a cope. I’ve noticed girls have gotten a lot taller. Most women I see are like 5’6 or 5’7. Unfortunately those girls aren’t checking for guys their own height, they want 4 inches taller at least. Most short girls are demanding tall guys as well. Then, you have girls who will say that they want to wear their heels so they don’t tower over their man. You say personality matters but I disagree. What good is your personality if there’s a 90% chance a girl will reject you simply off …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:26 AM
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OP here. Through all the comments I’ll admit my mind was changed. It’s clear that guys overall have far less options in the dating market (outside of the top 10%). Guys shooting their shot and not being able to get any sort of intimacy at all just doesn’t compare when a girl has at least gotten sex, attention, dates, etc. And worse case scenario can probably find another dude within a few hours. Thanks for the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:28 PM
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View has already been changed, read the update.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:09 PM
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You can lock this thread now mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:05 AM
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I was talking more in the confines of being Friendzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:04 AM
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I am
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:58 AM
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Yeah, made an update in the post to reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:16 AM
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…… even though I know it wasn’t your intention but now I feel attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:15 AM
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Because usually even if a guy likes a girl he will be happy enough just getting some sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:10 AM
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Respectfully but did you even read the damn post? The girl wants a relationship, she wants more than just sex. It’s because women can get sex so easily that they find almost no value in it outside of partaking in it with guys they truly want. That’s why going on dates, laughing together, holding hands is painful because it won’t amount to anything. With guys getting rejected there’s no investment, sure he likes the girl but there’s plenty of other girls he can ask out that will potentially date …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:57 PM
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Why would a guy be paying anything for a woman he's not even dating? You are describing a simp with no backbone. And no, the guy in the fuckzone may take her on a date but if she's really attracted to him he doesn't have to put out much money at all. You're describing transactional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:24 PM
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"I get what you’re saying but it seems way easier to predict which guy may be leading you on." I'm guessing all the stereotypical traits that women love (tall, lots of money, big dick, etc)? "By comparison, there are some men who pretty clearly make it obvious they want a relationship and something beyond sex who women pass by to go for guys who stay purposely more vague about their intentions before fuckzoning women." I mentioned this before but those guys can more easily move on and pursue oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:18 PM
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I don't have to because it's apparent if you read the context of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:10 PM
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😂 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:03 PM
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That's kinda the point... I'm comparing the bad aspects of dating dynamics for each gender respectively. The bad is when a girl gets used for sex and the guy gets rejected by the girl and doesn't progress to date. Edit: To add further the girl didn't get the relationship she was hoping for and the guy is (most likely) desperate for some kind of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:49 PM
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I think most women don't like it though. From what I see most women can't handle just casual sex, they want to feel like they are something more than sex, typically a relationship. ​ "For instance - I think I would be devastated if a woman I truly wanted had gone on dates with and all that and then she’s like, “yeah only fucking no relationship” - but I don’t see that ever happening because I’m upfront immediately with expectations." ​ Interesting. In this instance would you keep hooking up or j…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:41 PM
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"I'll take being fuckzoned over friendzoned every day." Well yeah, what guy wouldn't? lmao. The post is about getting fuckzoned from the women's perspective though and the contrast of guys being friendzoned. Obviously, the vast majority of guys would love to have commitment-free sex with minimal hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:31 PM
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This is a really good point that didn't even cross my mind while writing my post. Guys never have to worry about pregnancy scares, possible STD's, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:24 PM
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You bring up an interesting point here. I would argue that guys can more easily move on from the friendzone and continue to pursue other women if they'd like. The way you frame your statement however is that said guy would simply talk to that one girl and then just stop afterward. I do agree that if a guy is unable to find a compatible woman then that loneliness will definitely take a toll.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:00 PM
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I agree! That self defeating talk is a negative loop that will convince you that you are completely undesirable. It’s nearly impossible to change someones mind of who they believe they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:59 PM
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There needs to be more context because it varies so much. There are many guys who will put their self-worth into being in a relationship. I think for guys like that it will be extremely hard to be comfortable being single since you’ll always feel like there’s something “wrong” with you. Other guys who have passively given up but have a healthy group of friends and hobbies that fulfill them will do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:57 PM
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Public information on everyone’s body count? We already see that guys are increasingly not approaching women these days, I could see that go even higher. Women with the low body count would be praised and highly sought after and guys on the lower end would continue to be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:24 AM
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It’s a tactic to make women feel less desirable (and judging by even real life interactions it shockingly works). Everyone has to age but men know very well how vastly favorable dating is for women. So making you feel like you have to compete with younger women is the new way to make you feel like “your time is up.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:03 PM
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I would prefer having a relationship with almost no friends. Almost at least implies I have one, maybe two max. I’m cool with that as most people I see as acquaintances anyway. And relationship means that I’ll have someone I can be with and more consistent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:53 PM
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I agree with you but from a slightly different perspective. I don’t even think you need to talk to friends, I find women will give slight context clues to hint towards their sexual past. Like having this date with a girl 2 weeks ago mentioned how she “loves to go out with friends every weekend to get drunk and dance.” Or even things like “I took some time to be single so I can explore my physical needs and wants.” Which both scenarios are fine but yeah, it just takes listening to reveal these th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:50 PM
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Thanks for sharing! I know obviously the data wouldn’t be able to capture this but I’d be curious to know if those women feel like they settled for their husbands in comparison to more casual hook ups when they were younger. But regardless, if their happy that’s ultimately what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:42 PM
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I agree, I think women downplay the significance of who they get married to. If it wasn’t the same hot guy that you couldn’t stop daydreaming about when they were 21 then it feels like settling. And generally speaking women hate feeling like they settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:40 PM
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I notice you didn’t mention anything about long term commitment and marriage though. Yes, women can have casual relationships but from my experience and observations women just can’t sustain that for long. Women typically want to feel like they belong, not just some sex toy for guys to enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:36 PM
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How are you telling me what I’ve seen? You don’t even know me. 😂 I’m in the largest City in the U.S so yes, I’ve seen all types of couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:17 PM
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Strong disagree from my personal observations. I’ve seen plenty of guys with great physiques dating girls who are out of shape. I’m in NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 05:38 PM
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Women will always desire a guy out of their league, doesn’t mean they’ll get it. And even if they do, it might not even be what it’s all cracked up to be (anxious because other girls want their guy). I’m an average guy and I’ve dated girls that I perceived to be “out of my league.” I dated that 6 foot girl half expecting her to reject me right away. Come to find out guys hardly talk to her because gasp she’s tall and they too believe they’ll get rejected. I also ended up dating a girl who was su…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 05:36 PM
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I could get away with it (you can check my profile if you want) because I look young for my age. I’m nearly 30 but regularly told that I look 21. However most 30+ guys are not able to do that unless they also look super young, have some status, or happen to get lucky with a women who doesn’t mind. I do think it happens enough in experience and what people tell me but I doubt 20 something year old girls prefer 30+ guys outside of the hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:58 PM
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Sure, but let’s be real. If you give off more toxic energy Women tend to gravitate. I’ve seen it happen way too many times for it to be a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:39 PM
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I agree tbh. When I was younger I was given the advice “just be yourself.” Guess what? It got me nowhere. “Another girl would be happy to have you” or “I’m not feeling the vibes” is always what I heard. But, unfortunately, just like OP, I noticed that the guys that got all the women were these alcoholic dudes that didn’t seem totally invested and mean. I was just like “what the fuck is this shit!?” I got my ass in the gym, lost nearly 40 pounds, and dressed and talked how the “Assholes” do and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:35 PM
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In general, I definitely agree. Hell, I’m convinced that being a semi-attractive women is like a damn superpower because you can get guys to buy you things, get instant and near infinite amounts of attention, and receive help (getting your car fixed) simply for your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:54 PM
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Exactly this. And that’s fine if that’s what they want. But when many of them turn around and complain about being used and that they get anxious because “they’re almost out of time” all sympathy goes out the window. They could’ve used that time to build a foundation with a decent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:48 PM
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I don’t see this stopping anytime soon. This is the reason why most guys want to be toxic because it’s been shown over and over that women are more receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:40 PM
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Women are their own worse enemy. They will wait ages for the “perfect guy” and miss out on plenty of guys that would otherwise make good relationships. Also, I strongly believe there are more traditionally marriage worthy men than there are women. They may be quirky, have an odd collection of Marvel comic books, ask interview style questions on dates, or have no humor but they’re typically ok. Most of these guys end up in the Friendzone or seen as not desirable enough. Finally, I rarely have met…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:13 PM
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Way more comfortable for his feet too. But also, the guilt of having to carry around these lifts that bring false confidence isn’t worth it.
/r/seduction05/09/22 06:18 AM
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Doesn’t it become kinda obvious that you’re wearing foot lifts as soon as you take them off? 4 inches of height is a lot to cover, I don’t believe for one second that the women didn’t see the obvious height difference and started asking questions.
/r/seduction05/09/22 06:16 AM
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Is there no middle ground at all? I can’t relate to “Chad” or “Billy Beta” at all. I’m not some 6’4 chiseled Chad that women see as a God but I’m not some simp, must put her on a pedestal because she’s so perfect beta either. I’m a regular guy with an average height, good looking face that gets some attention from women and can hook up (mostly with 5’s and 6’s) a couple times a year if I try.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:22 AM
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The “women are less desirable when they turn 30” is a (successful) scare tactic to force women to settle down quicker and feel like they’re out of time (to an extent this is kinda true if you want kids). If what you stated is accurate you aren’t going to have any trouble getting into a relationship with the majority of guys, outside of the top 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:17 AM
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Slugma??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:34 PM
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"Can a man really put himself in the friendzone with no way for recovery?" I think there is recovery but it's slim. One instance is when a girl I dated briefly stated she did not want to continue seeing me. I was hurt but I moved on after 2 days. A year later she was interested. I had lost 34 pounds, grown my hair out, and had a better-paying job. Those changes made me more desirable and we hooked up. "Why is the friendzone something that has such a bad reputation?" Because usually (mostly guys)…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 10:22 PM
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I wasn’t talking about myself but rather a friend who constantly had to deal with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:33 AM
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I would argue most women are (unknowingly of course) in harems, it’s just not explicitly said. Edit: Also this post gives me Fresh and Fit vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:46 PM
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Unfortunately in my observation, this seems true. Even when the guy is desirable in other aspects if he's too young the conversation finishes fast. It is what it is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:07 PM
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Do you not see what is wrong with that thinking though? The guy would have to considerably narrow his choices (which most guys are trying to do the opposite) to find a much smaller woman. What if he is attracted to women taller than him? He rather as well give up dating because even those smaller women would want a taller guy. And a guy at that height is more likely to become cynical by constant rejection before he finds a women that considers him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:28 PM
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"a woman is needing a man to be taller than SHE is being right?? ok..so you can be finding a woman who is being 5 feet tall and then if you are being like 5 foot 5 you are being taller" That sounds fine on paper but I hardly know any women that even considers a guy at 5'5 even if she herself is 5 inches shorter. Women, especially younger ones, can't brag to their friends when the guy is below average height. Also, even if the guy is accepted he still needs to be excellent in almost every regard …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:23 PM
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Younger women tend to have less experience so they aren’t as jaded/cynical and less likely to have kids or issues with a baby daddy. All that equates to less baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:36 PM
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Oh, for sure. Exercise and perhaps, more importantly, eating clean, is what helped me lose close to 40 pounds. I actually gave up dating for half of my 20's because being overweight and average height is a terrible combination. Maximizing my looks, shaving more often, wearing more comfortable clothes, and growing out my hair were all major contributions to a better outlook on dating/mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:41 PM
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Anecdotal I know but Every guy in my social circle cares about body count to SOME extent. At best most guys are neutral about it. Most guys I would assume have a visceral reaction and never want to be the guy that “wifed a Thot.” I’ve also seen guys shame and bully others for having a girl that was “ran through.” Even the guys that are indifferent want to know that she has no STD’s or bumps into any guy that she might’ve had a fling with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:28 PM
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I mostly agree with this, dating life as a guy is pretty exhausting. I actually don’t even mind initiating MOST of the interactions with women, as I love to socialize (when I’m in the mood). It just sucks that women don’t initiate some of the time. I would love to feel desired. :( The only time, as an average guy, where dating has been immensely enjoyable is when I had many dates set up and had a few hook-ups that eventually led to a relationship. I’m now putting myself out there again and it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:10 PM
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The only time I’ve truly enjoyed dating is when I was hooking up with multiple girls and going on constant dates where the attraction AND effort was reciprocal. But outside of that small window of time dating (or lack thereof) has been grueling since as a man you have to initiate most of the time, get the girl interested, get her number, set up the date, initiating physical intimacy, etc. Oh, and the many times you get rejected you have to “not take it personal” or your left with a bitter attitu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:45 PM
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I probably would want sex no later than 4 dates or a bit over a month. Initially when I was younger I would slut shame because of my misogyny and dislike for women “giving it up too easily”. I reflected and realized that I have to be accountable for my actions and that I’m projecting my issues onto the women. As long as she’s wet and doesn’t have an STD I don’t care about notch count. Dating is hard enough as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:10 PM
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I mostly agree. In my experience women will typically go for the best looking tallest dudes in their youth and ignore the rest (or use them for favors). It’s not that these women “don’t learn” rather they become addicted to what it’s like to have the high status guy. Then again, life is too variable. As a young guy I would be considered the “nice guy” but despite being average height and normal looking I still exhibited toxic traits. I would string women along and get sex or block women i found …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:02 PM
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I’ll stick with the girlfriend who has shown to be supportive and loving. While a very attractive women may make me feel desired, it’s not worth breaking a loving healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:59 PM
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I’ve read most of the comments by this point but I don’t think there’s really a way to describe why sex is so damn important for us, as guys. As a women you are on the opposite end of the spectrum so I doubt you can truly grasp the extreme lengths guys will jump through to have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:51 AM
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Either way you feel the need to keep responding, I’m just trolling and not taking the interaction seriously. Interesting perspective though. Again, take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:27 AM
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Found the 30 something year old women that’s clearly triggered. 😭 if it don’t apply let it fly. Take care though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:07 AM
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Did you even read my post or you just responded immediately out of emotion? 😂😂 “Younger women tend to have no kids, less baggage, more fun, etc.” Where do I bring up attractiveness? As Kevin Samuels says “You must be in the danger zone!”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:07 AM
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I mostly disagree but I can see why you think the way you do. Oftentimes people with no college degree don’t have access to vast networks and upward mobility severely limiting quality options. That being said I know many people without an advanced degree that have been able to make tons of money and are well respected within their field. Until recently I was also there and I considered myself to have decent access to quality women. I’ve been able to do consulting work which allowed me to brush s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:38 PM
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Agreed! There’s plenty of guys that will pick a big girl because she has less options and probably more insecure about her appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:06 PM
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Just like your post has alluded to there’s too many factors for it to be a simple blanket statement. If a women was in her mid 30s but kept herself in shape and presented well I would prefer her over a early 20 something year old girl who doesn’t stay in shape/bad habits. The argument is that younger women are universally more attractive than older women. And admittedly there’s some truth to it. Younger women tend to have no kids, less baggage, more fun (whatever that might entail), etc. One ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:26 PM
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The comment section did NOT disappoint. 😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:42 AM
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Damn, you asking some hard hitting questions, loving this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:24 AM
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Dating is hard enough as is to be honest. I wouldn’t let something like how many people you have sex with come in the way of getting to know them. If the women had unresolved childhood trauma, daddy issues, seeking attention/using sex as an escape from some other issue then yeah, I’m good on that. Edit: At least offer a rebuttal if your going to downvote. Don’t be scared, I don’t bite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:02 AM
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This is a terrible take for so many reasons. I’ll try to narrow it though. Lying indicates that there needs some hiding or fudging of the past that she’s not proud to share. People are human, we have sex, oh the horror. Also, if the girl feels uncomfortable she can just say it’s none of the guys business. While I don’t personally care for the body count discussion I think it can give some insight into their thought process and how they view sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:59 AM
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I just dislike the echo chamber of guys that claim they’ll leave women alone yet continue to talk about them constantly. Just seems so redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:58 PM
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I see, thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:37 PM
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You don't need to be a top 1% guy. Why does this always get emphasized?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:06 PM
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Was thinking this as well personally. There's plenty of other guys that will risk putting themselves out there. Avoiding women is easy and passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:06 PM
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This doesn't directly relate but if you were to find a woman that matched your ideal would you be open to it? I don't doubt you are happier being single but I somewhat doubt you'll choose to be single over a happy relationship with a woman who respects and treats you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:02 PM
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I always thought this was the most interesting catch 22. The guy who doesn't have options will likely not cheat (because he can't) but he constantly gets glossed over because he's not desirable enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:59 PM
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Thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:08 PM
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Ah, fair enough! I do think relationships are what I’d prefer if I’m being honest, just been taking a little more time before I put myself out there again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:52 AM
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I’ve been single most of my life and it’s been decent, more freedom and spontaneity .As a guy I think it’s a little more easier to have casual flings with no one judging your lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:48 AM
6

Even though I’m dating with intention of marriage I actually agree that it’s dying at a fast pace. Most guys can get the benefits of a long term relationship without having the government involved. Also, men do have a lot to lose in the grand scheme (financially) but it can be just as detrimental for women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 10:33 PM
2

Funny enough I’m dating for marriage so I would actually be disappointed. Before I was adamantly against marriage and never had any desire for it. I would stay though, it would just have to be something I work through for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 10:28 PM
2

I had a girl say something eerily similar too… she mentioned not wanting to have had sex on the first night because I was “husband material.” Her logic was that I was special and didn’t want to go too fast. I guess from my perspective I would feel less special because I would’ve had to wait for the very thing other guys didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:01 PM
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I don’t think mature is the right word. Realistic is what I would say personally. Men tend to be far more realistic about dating than women are imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:22 PM
5

I don’t disagree necessarily. I’m sure it can cause some resentment on the women’s end because now that guy can’t match the burning desire she had for the other guy. But hey, life is full of trade-offs. She either gets the security and commitment but a mundane lifestyle or a hot guy who she lust after but will never give her the commitment. 🤷🏽‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:46 AM
3

I’m willing to bet that the average guys with little to no options is just happy to have a wife that will accept him rather than a sexless life with no women really be interested in him. So yeah, marriage is far better than the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:43 AM
9

The highly desirable guys definitely will have sex with an average women. They just won’t commit to her. Men’s sexual appetite is unlimited. And I agree, once a dude has a blue check on IG, makes half a million a year, and six pack abs you will see the true character of a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:53 AM
20

I don’t quite buy it either but some things that come to mind is maybe that super hot guy never wanted to commit to that women. After realizing she’ll never get commitment she goes for the average emotionally stable guy that will treat her right. Maybe she “lowered” her standard in terms of looks/height but she gets a man who will support and commit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:50 AM
6

Not every girl is gonna magically turn into some landwhale when they hit 30. There are some women that actually take care of themselves and retain their looks well into their older years. Likewise, not every guy is going to peak as they age. That takes a lot of maintenance (continuing to work out, having a high income job or business, etc). I would argue only a minority of men would reach that peak. Women’s options for these highly desirable guys do actually drop though, especially when it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:47 AM
3

Ehhh… I can see some guys being into that but IMO that would be the very guys that never had much of a chance with women to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:29 AM
7

No one forgot. Men will still pay out of pocket for access to sex in some capacity but the concept of directly paying for sex is… demoralizing. It indicates that you aren’t capable of charismatically talking to a girl, going on a date, and eventually scoring. Perhaps the guy just wants to get his rocks off without the effort? Sure, but many would see you as a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:28 AM
3

Kevin Samuels…. Is that you? 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:19 AM
1

I notice this too. Not really many options for top shelf women. This is why I’m making plans to travel more extensively when the pandemic slows down.
/r/askTRP27/12/20 09:52 PM
7

I’d say act any way you want. You shouldn’t have to act a particular way to appease a women. The main takeaway from AMS is don’t be a goofy, someone who is always laughing and smiling excessively, it comes off odd.
/r/askTRP14/12/20 02:50 PM
2

Ehh. I'm not a fan of pursuing girls in fixed locations because if things ever go south (hint: they inevitably do) it becomes hella awkward. Your right, it's way too soon for logistics. Best bet is to build rapport and make her feel comfortable. Once you feel like she's warmed up to you then start the logistics to meet up. If she's really interested this shouldn't take longer than 3 days.
/r/askTRP04/03/19 08:19 PM
2

Ok cool. Welcome aboard! I think it's your mind shifting and seeing things differently. Oftentimes most men who have transitioned into red pill will have varying degrees of how they see the the world and this is a normal occurrence.
/r/askTRP23/01/19 09:10 PM
2

i was lowkey angry at him for not knowing how to lead the class. Is this how you feel normally when you see an authority figure not taking action or was this the first time? And if it is your first, seeing an earlier comment regarding your 17 I'm assuming you've just recently experienced RP?
/r/askTRP23/01/19 09:01 PM
4

Well only you can answer that (and I suspect you already know) but I imagine you see reality for what it is and wanted some order in the class, therefore, bringing forth this "need."
/r/askTRP23/01/19 08:52 PM
20

Right. Dying alone has no gender, it affects us all.
/r/MGTOW17/01/19 07:41 PM
23

betaization This legit needs to be a word.
/r/askTRP17/01/19 03:14 PM
2

Fair enough. Sounds like the best thing is to just work on your mission and cut distractions. Best of Luck.
/r/askTRP17/01/19 03:06 PM
3

You sound like you have oneitis, and yes, a beta cuck. (Hey, you asked for it). Seriously though, you want her back because she's all you know. Do you really want a girl who "wasn't happy" with you? What's to say she doesn't do it again?? Read that sidebar again and get it in your fucking mind that you never pursue women that doesn't want you. Now go out there and slay some vagina.
/r/askTRP17/01/19 02:43 PM
2

Had the same exact thing. She felt that because we hooked up and "had history" why throw that all away. Lmao. Told her as soon as she finds another guy I'll be an after thought anyway and that I had enough friends.
/r/askTRP07/01/19 07:20 PM
1

Because guys and girls can't be friends...
/r/askTRP07/01/19 05:56 PM
5

This is for questions, not personal rants...
/r/askTRP07/01/19 05:55 PM
1

Although I did have to teach her how to give a decent blowjob. It was all teeth before. She's learning how to deepthroat now. I never understood this. If a girl has had sex so many times I would think she would be pornstar level good on everything including head. I had a girl who slept with 80 dudes and she could barely deepthroat. WTF?
/r/askTRP06/01/19 03:36 AM
11

#Winning
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 07:54 PM
1

I'm just starting to wonder if that's something I should aspire to be more like, as people often think I'm depressed or moody when I'm just myself? Change because you want to, not how other people perceive you. In terms of altering your personality type its possible but you won't make a complete overhaul. For instance, I'm a loner but I can easily mingle with other extroverts pretty easily for hours. But I get tired afterwards and need to have my alone time again.
/r/askTRP04/01/19 03:03 PM
23

Kinda late to this but I have a similar story. There was 2 girls, not even pretty but they were popular. Used to make fun of me and joked that I would "Make a good boyfriend if I had swag." One of them asked if I wanted her # and intentionally did this in front of a large group of people to embarrass me. "Nah, I'm good I don't want your #." Look on her face was absolutely priceless. She tried to call me names but the damage was already done, she became a laughingstock to the school and eventuall…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 02:53 PM
13

I highly prefer a woman who is bubbly, talkative. It's part of what attracts me to their feminine charm.
/r/askTRP04/01/19 02:24 PM
1

No offense dude but nothing here makes much sense... If you are banging other girls why would you care about your ex? I mean I get fulfilling your fantasy and whatnot but it can't be worth rekindling with an ex you broke up with. Surely, you had your reasons or else you'd be together still. Assuming your fucking at least more than one girl your attention will be spread in too many places anyway especially if your lifting, in school, goes to work, pursue hobbies, and/or make money on the side.
/r/askTRP04/01/19 02:21 PM
6

Your missing something extremely vital in this. Where's your mission? Find something productive, something tangible that will get you results and improve yourself. Instead of (pointlessly) drinking and hooking up why not lift at the gym? How about learning how to code (very marketable skill and in demand) or teaching yourself financial independence? Do things that will benefit your future in the long term. Women and drinking will not help you do that, in fact, it just hinders you. Best of luck!
/r/askTRP02/01/19 08:15 PM
1

So she mentioned rescheduling which is fine but did she specify a time and date? If not, I would soft next. A girl that constantly reschedules doesn't see you as a first or second pick, your just an option to her, someone nice to have when she's bored. Source: I was the lonely fucker waiting for the girl while she probably was getting railed by Chad.
/r/askTRP02/01/19 08:09 PM
1

You can't control what a girl is going to do bro. All you can do is focus on yourself and be the best version and the girl will (maybe) continue to see you as her best option. Vetting girls out and checking for red flags is key.
/r/askTRP31/12/18 02:43 PM
2

Say something ridiculous or silly. Unless I've literally done something super cool or interesting I never answer such a vague question with an equally boring answer. I also like your answer because it actually does give the girl unconscious thoughts of you being more desirable. But no matter what you come up with don't dwell on this too much.
/r/askTRP26/12/18 09:31 PM
16

I hope this "bitch", as she refers to herself, lives her days as Chad's dispensible fuck toy. The fact that these women know the power they have and are more than willing to exploit it is sick. And then these feminist thots say "There's no such thing as Female privilege!!"
/r/MGTOW26/12/18 03:34 PM
2

Everything you just described is my exact situation. I have my my own place, have a decent job, decent clothes (need an overhaul though) but I'm currently working on dropping lots of pounds. I haven't been focused on any girls at all and just looking to be 14% BF by the Spring time.
/r/askTRP20/12/18 03:36 AM
2

Huh? Well, obviously I wouldn't suggest saying it like that, that's fucking dumb. Just say you want to "keep it casual and not be tied down" or some shit like. And who cares about losing the girl if you have other girls your fucking? I don't care about losing girls because they are all replaceable. 🤷🏽‍♂️
/r/askTRP19/12/18 06:00 PM
6

Wait, a girl that goes out clubbing was in consideration of an LTR? In any case, the way I did it recently was showing that I had other options. The girl knew I was dating other girls but I started texting more often in front of her, smiling at other girls, she started to get the hint. Or if you have the abundance mentality you can just explicitly tell her and she can either take it or leave it. Won't matter what she does if your fucking other girls.
/r/askTRP19/12/18 03:06 PM
24

Imagine if the genders were reversed. A man would absolutely get destroyed in the comment section. I'm sure there were some people who even encouraged or rationalized this comment too. Sick.
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 02:28 PM
1

So pretty much she sees men as portable ATM machines to use for her convenience.
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 05:01 PM
12

“I paid his mother $1,360,000 in support to afford him opportunities I never had,” - 50 Cent ​ That fucking hurts. I'm sure this ungrateful cunt is going to use the bulk of that money for frivolous material items like fancy jewelry, purses, clothes, shoes, etc instead of setting the son up for success like a good trust fund, college tuition set aside, etc. Just another sad reminder out of millions of men getting fucked by the system.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 08:10 PM
15

"Let me make a face like I'm 21 years old again, I'm sure the guys will love it."
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 07:42 PM
11

LMFAOOOO. Edit: Boss almost came out and was wondering what was so funny. Ah, that made my day.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 07:39 PM
18

No accountability for one's actions, instead of LESS expectation and seeing the writing on the wall, they actually INCREASE the expectations and expect the man to be everything while they only bring their flabby vagina to the table.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 07:35 PM
34

The delusion runs very deep. Kept this 42-year-old MILF as a FWB (head game was amazing) and she kept complaining why I never take her to restaurants and fancy places. I looked her in the eyes and said "You have 2 kids, divorced, titties are starting to sag, plenty of mileage on that pussy, and that she was beyond her peak." She just stared at me like some frightened deer, slapped me with her bra, and ghosted me for 5 months. She really thought her value was more than just a warm hole to fuck. H…
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 07:30 PM
7

I literally had a girl do this to me this past Valentine's Day! She ghosted on me before we were to meet up and then was like "Hey baby, are you free on Valentine's, I would love to meet up and go somewhere." I just laughed at the text and told her to delete my #.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 05:49 PM
3

Unfortunately, it won't be too hard as there is always a beta not too far away who would gladly do it.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 05:47 PM
3

I legit LOL'ed.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 05:46 PM
6

"She's not yours, it's just your turn." Sounds like your too emotionally invested. Read the sidebar on how to NOT GIVE A FUCK.
/r/askTRP03/12/18 05:30 PM
17

"Just accept for all that I am!"
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 05:03 PM
23

Heh, they love using "THICC" now. Pretty much a glorified way of saying I'm fat but I don't want to say it.
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 05:03 PM
31

You might be on to something here. I fucked a slut that had slept with over 100 guys and she claims that I was the 2nd biggest. Now, while I am above average as well I struggle to believe there haven't been other dudes that were at least as big as me. Seemed kind of exaggerated honestly.
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 04:55 PM
1

I still think it's a solid list of the insane standards that are put on men.
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 07:55 PM
15

I also want to add that because women expect more from us we men, as default, are superior/better than they are no matter how much they pretend we're "equal."
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 07:10 PM
2

I've seen plenty of landwhales get dicked down so I wouldn't even say that. Just merely existing is enough.
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 07:08 PM
1

Uh wut? I live in NYC and there's always a decent looking slut to take home whenever, even for the most average looking guy. I think this largely depends on location, the type of bar/club, and obviously the guys SMV.
/r/askTRP20/11/18 04:17 PM
3

I can't stop laughing. I would be too embarrassed to be seen with her.
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 10:33 PM
5

Your sexual identity shouldn't be held against you. I don't see the problem as long as it's rooted in Red Pill, fitness, self-improvement, etc.
/r/askTRP14/11/18 02:14 PM
3

Yeah, I legit LOL'ED when I read it.
/r/askTRP13/11/18 09:38 PM
19

Hentai. Appreciate the honesty.
/r/askTRP13/11/18 04:45 PM
2

Yoga, Self - Reflection, and exercise.
/r/askTRP13/11/18 04:45 PM
1

Are you sure it's that specifically or could it be something else you think?
/r/askTRP11/10/18 03:43 PM
1

Personally, I don't care to know whether I fucked up or not. It's just a plate, they're replaceable, and I feel I have good enough self-reflection to catch what I did wrong. Assuming the girl actually answers she could make up some shit as to make you not feel bad.
/r/askTRP11/10/18 03:35 PM
2

Read sidebar immediately.
/r/askTRP11/10/18 03:32 PM
1

Even if your young beer and Xanax fucks up your sexual performance bad. Lay off that shit and you'll be fine.
/r/askTRP11/10/18 03:32 PM
1

I fuck around on the computer half the time and don't give a shit. My job doesn't pay me enough to do so. I just keep my work tabs open and pretend I'm busy. Easy money
/r/askTRP03/10/18 03:02 PM
1

So much this.
/r/askTRP02/10/18 09:15 PM
2

It's a platform to share ideas and learn new things. Yes, some people are much further ahead than others and simply don't need to read the content daily. For me personally, I started to just go out there and experience shit and then occasionally go to Red Pill if I'm stuck in a new situation. Take what you want from it and move on.
/r/askTRP02/10/18 09:13 PM
2

What you do is fuck the shit out of your LTR so good she can't walk proper for a few days.
/r/askTRP21/09/18 10:36 PM
2

Have access to a phone or computer at all? Maybe learn how to code? That's very practical and in demand skill.
/r/askTRP21/09/18 10:32 PM
3

Do whatever feels right. A "Thank you" should be genuine and deserved, never because you are consciously seeking validation and approval.
/r/askTRP18/09/18 09:05 PM
3

Keep it to yourself unless she asks about it. Also, follow what wobbleelbbow said because it helps with pre-selection and makes you look more desirable to other girls.
/r/askTRP18/09/18 08:53 PM
1

So pretty much focus on your mission and women are just secondary to that? Thanks for the reminder I guess but this is a known fact already....
/r/TheRedPill18/09/18 08:23 PM
1

Definitely saving this. Thank you for the practical information!
/r/TheRedPill11/09/18 08:48 PM
53

So many times I had a woman who was definitely shooting me "IOIs", but didn't go for it sometimes because of this whole 'no way she's into me'. I regret those moments I didn't go for it, over the many rejections I have had with women. So much this. I had one girl who was really touchy-feely and wanted to "study and hang out in my apartment. My roomate won't be back in a few hours." You know what my dumbass said?! "Nah, I'm tired, maybe later." This chick was a fucking 8.5 with the softest lookin…
/r/TheRedPill11/09/18 08:41 PM
5

I don't want to call them mistakes, but rather lessons that we learn. Also, it's good to acknowledge them but changing the behavior and improving is when you really see the magic happen. It's never too late to turn things around for the better.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/18 08:36 PM
119

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." -Wayne Gretzky
/r/TheRedPill11/09/18 08:24 PM
2

If a guy is deep in the blue pill he'll act out defensively and throw out nonsense. Someone who has some sense of RP will see it for what it is and connect the dots.
/r/askTRP11/09/18 07:21 PM
2

The same energy you are using to write this could be better spent doing something productive. I grew up poor, black, and shitty childhood so that's already 3 strikes against me. You are absolutely right. It is MUCH HARDER than it has ever been despite what the old folks try to tell me. With the girls, I had to make myself as physically attractive as possible and that alone reduced my rejection rate. With $$ and job opportunities, unfortunately, higher education is the route needed in order to ev…
/r/askTRP11/09/18 07:19 PM
3

Higher Tier women is at minimum 7. But some things (from the sidebar) like grooming properly, wearing clothes that fit your style, always making sure to socialize with everyone, IDGAF Attitude, etc.
/r/askTRP06/09/18 03:19 PM
4

To be completely blunt, I think it's a facade. If any of the pathetic betas had a chance to pound some fresh 18-year-old pussy they would not hesitate. They are full of shit because they would do the same exact thing if given the opportunity so they are being haters and calling you a creep as a way of projection.
/r/askTRP06/09/18 03:16 PM
1

So why do you guys want ltrs again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRS_PpOrUZ4
/r/TheRedPill06/09/18 02:19 PM
5

Wait, you LTR'ed a girl who you knew was a proven cheater?! Micdrop
/r/TheRedPill06/09/18 02:14 PM
266

Seriously. You can be doing everything right and the girl feels like she's lonely or bored or whatever reason and some Chad comes and proceeds to make her his bitch. Having multiple plates with low investment seems like my option for the foreseeable future.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/18 05:16 PM
39

Similar to that guy who taped a note underneath the toilet seat. That shit was great. Wait, what? Do you have a link or something, I want to know more!
/r/TheRedPill05/09/18 05:14 PM
270

LMAOOO. Girl: What are we doing OP: We're just hanging out. Girl: Promise? OP: Yes. That chick knew damn well that OP was gonna go balls deep in dat ass but I'm sure she'll justify her behavior as "We just hung out and were getting comfortable and then one thing led to another...." Poor boyfriend, heh, I'm sure that's not the only time she's cheated on him.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/18 05:01 PM
3

Not only are you not old, you really aren't even young yet. Huh?
/r/askTRP31/08/18 04:25 PM
2

The thought has literally never crossed my mind but then again I go to some pretty crazy parties where the unwritten rule is that it's ok to just bend girls over and dry hump the fuck out of them. fnordsnord above me last 2 points especially are important in regards to body language and respecting boundaries.
/r/askTRP31/08/18 03:42 PM
-4

Sounds like someone hasn't read the sidebar. LOL.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/18 08:50 PM
45

Jesus fucking christ. This dude is the epitome of beta bucks. I suspect the reason why he likes these single mom thots is because they have less options and need a provider, a role he is all too willing to play. Just some things that stood out to me: "She was a few years older then him and had two kids. I had seen pics of the kids on Facebook and assumed they were his. I was wrong; she had been married twice before. He said that her leaving had, "almost killed him." My Take: The guy marries a wo…
/r/TheRedPill29/08/18 02:57 PM
64

This forum could be just as useful if it were locked down and all we had was the sidebar and a few top posts. Yup! There's only so many post you can read until you're digesting the same thing over and over. Ultimately, in my opinion, it's about going out there and making experiences, failing as many times as you can, and constantly learning from your mistakes once you've obtained a sufficient amount of knowledge here.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/18 01:50 PM
28

"The reason I'm saying this is because a lot of different shit can work for getting women. So to sit here and say only do this or say exactly that is overcomplicating things. We're turning newbies to this sub into robots. They read, "do this" and it gets a bunch of upvotes. And that's then all they do and never know if other ways can work better for them." To me this is the highlight of the post. Some people need to realize there's no fixed rule or certain way to go about things, particularly ta…
/r/TheRedPill29/08/18 01:47 PM
12

Exactly. She'll be riding that Cock carousel for all it's worth until she falls off.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/18 01:43 PM
1

Wow men are seriously plotting against women like this. What are you even talking about? The girl has full agency and knows what she's getting into. There's no "plotting" or anyone being used just 2 consenting adults fucking.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/18 01:42 PM
10

Nice, solid post. Definitely saving this for a later read and to refer to.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/18 08:25 PM
198

Nice. Sounds like you have a decent plate to have. Of course, the fact that she admitted she cheats is more than enough reason to never emotionally invest in this girl. Have fun and smash her til your dick hurts. Oh, and she's not yours, it's just your turn.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/18 08:20 PM
1

Hmm. Well, it can't be your physical appearance that's putting them off if I'm going by what you're telling me. Are these people who knew you for a while? Maybe you discovered TRP recently(?) and they still see you in the same light. Or to be blunt, what you say in a conversation has NO SUBSTANCE. You mention that you talk loud but they still ignore you... Maybe you're not adding anything to the conversation.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 04:20 PM
18

"That's why women are hardwired to monopolize as much male time, energy and attention as possible. If you've ever had the displeasure of working with women you'll know how your time gets parasitized under the guise of “teamwork”." This line really rings true for me. I'm a wet behind the ears College Graduate who started working my first job in the Government and I've always been curious why women seem to always ask for favors, love to talk about superficial dumb shit that I could care less about…
/r/TheRedPill21/08/18 04:01 PM
10

How do you look physically? How do you present/conduct yourself? Is this in your regular social circle? I need more details to help you.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 03:53 PM
0

It varies. I had an ok time on Tinder a few years back. I was able to smash an 8 (she was a thot though, would've slept with anyone TBH) but that was about it after using it for 3 months and still being a beta. Now? I've improved my physical attractiveness, lost lots of weight, eating clean, get my hair cut more often, green contacts, dress better, etc. I get matches fairly often, I don't consider myself a Chad though, probably never will be, although I get a lot of messages like "You look like …
/r/askTRP21/08/18 03:52 PM
1

Jobs are dead dude. Start being your own boss, the best way to go. Whether it's freelancing, little gigs here and there, Uber, being a Youtuber (I do that part-time, makes decent money), or running a brick and mortar business it's all more fulfilling. What are things you like to do? Special skills that you can make a profit off of? PM me, I'm sure I can help.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 03:40 PM
3

Lmfaooo!
/r/askTRP21/08/18 03:37 PM
0

Blatantly telling you to your face that your cock is not enough Yup, that's pretty much what I got out of this too. If she desires another dick you aren't doing your job right.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 03:35 PM
6

Was thinking the same thing honestly. Assuming he has no emotional investment in this girl just run a train on the chick.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 03:33 PM
1

She found another beta to cuck. Or an Alpha who gave her the tingles and she's ready to ride the CC for all it's worth.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 03:31 PM
2

I did everything I could for her in our 3.5 years together. She barely even fucked me. And now she’s all promiscuous with other dudes, and it’s killing me. Ah, this is what this is about. DON'T FUCKING DO IT. Be the bigger person. I know it probably is eating you the fuck up right now that she's getting pounded by different dudes while you treated her special with no sexual reciprocation but working on yourself massively improving your SMV will be the better choice in the long run.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 03:28 PM
4

I do agree the quality has been down A Lot. I came in mid 2015 and that seemed to be a really good year. With that being said there will eventually come a time where you have learned a lot and constantly getting real life experience is where you really put the Red pill lessons to the test. I'm grateful for all the reads and still come here occasionally but now that I have a solid frame and SMV I just come for some brief information and head out.
/r/askTRP20/08/18 02:43 AM
6

I mostly agree but I don't see the harm in paying for it assuming the hooker is willing to teach him some things. I would imagine most girls would expect the guy "to take it slow" since he's not too experienced.
/r/askTRP20/08/18 02:37 AM
1

Personally I think it's for Simps. Throwing money at women who you won't even fuck just seems ridiculous to me. I guess it's fun if you do it periodically or a few times but not for me.
/r/askTRP20/08/18 02:35 AM
1

Yeah eventually. She didn't buy my act at first (and rightfully so) but I kept at it and she started to slowly distance herself and then hit me with the "I feel like we're growing apart." I still think being beta on purpose is ridiculous but in situations like this it's a Godsend.
/r/askTRP18/08/18 12:14 AM
1

That's the thing. You can't negotiate attraction. Either she really wants you or not. Once a girl loses the tingles she'll branch swing to another dick, er I mean guy (lol) and the new guy will overwrite the memories of her old lover.
/r/askTRP17/08/18 10:52 PM
4

Sure, I can think of an example. There was one girl who was crazy in love with me. Constantly coming to my apartment, my job, wanted to be with me and my friends, tried to meet my family, etc. She was also bipolar. In order to finally give her the slip, I went completely beta, even worse than the old days. I gave her flowers, sent love letters, constantly texted her, pretended to be needy. It worked like a charm. Her pussy started to dry up faster than the water in the Sahara Desert and could se…
/r/askTRP17/08/18 09:20 PM
4

Dude married a fucking human receptacle. SMH
/r/askTRP17/08/18 09:15 PM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5gmafv/how_to_open_and_close_a_guide_for_beginners_long/ Thank me later.
/r/askTRP17/08/18 09:13 PM
1

Yes, because of hypergamy. A guy can always improve himself to continuously be her best option but there will always be the chance that you slip and she gets tingles for another Chad. Also, she's not yours, it's just your turn.
/r/askTRP17/08/18 09:12 PM
1

That's amazing that you found it so young. Me personally at 23 (now 25). I'm curious what pushed you here?
/r/TheRedPill17/08/18 08:57 PM
57

This so much. To be honest I could've easily became a bitter fucking incel loser. I was invisible to girls and although I never would say it verbally I was mad that I wasn't getting any action. I sat with myself and realize I have to take life by the balls and stop blaming other people! It was time to take accountability for my actions. (Something that I personally feel women lack but it is what it is.) I made it (part of) my mission to improve myself significantly. Started doing hardcore weight…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/18 02:02 AM
2

If you actually read the OP's response he clearly says he doesn't want her as a girlfriend because he sees red flags. Therefore if he doesn't see her as a girlfriend they are NOT in a monogamous relationship, she's just a girl he fucks occasionally. And stop with the insults, you sound like a little 12-year-old.
/r/askTRP10/08/18 09:31 PM
0

"If you are exclusively fucking one single woman, you are in a commited relationship by definition. She is your girlfriend." I guess people have different definitions of getting into a monogamous relationship then. For me, unless I explicitly say I want to date the girl exclusively it shouldn't be assumed that we are in a relationship.
/r/askTRP10/08/18 09:21 PM
1

Girl: "I really am not in the mood for sex." Me: "Alright, no problem." Cool and casual. Escalates a few minutes later and softly nibbles on her ear or some light petting. Typically when a girl says "No sex tonight" she ALREADY HAS SEX ON HER MIND. It is your job to get her hot and bothered.
/r/askTRP10/08/18 09:19 PM
2

" I love talking to you, but I have things I need to do" Yeah, that's good. I don't know how long you've known this girl but honestly, you should've set these boundaries from the get-go. Now, when you try to establish them she's going to give pushback because it's something that should've happened already. I'm also concerned about you asking how to set boundaries as it implies that you don't explicitly speak up for yourself.
/r/askTRP09/08/18 09:04 PM
8

Do what YOU want to do. Don't feel pressured because she wants your time. If she is just some causal female friend that you talk to on occasion, make small talk when you're bored and don't feel too invested tell her you're busy. If she is funny, adds value to your life, then sure talk with her but set freaking boundaries.
/r/askTRP09/08/18 08:51 PM
-12

Interesting take but I don't feel like this is the most appropriate post to put on The Red Pill.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/18 05:53 PM
1

Just out of curiosity are you new to the red pill?
/r/askTRP06/08/18 08:04 PM
3

I've always thought this too but the way you worded it is excellent. While, on paper, we are severely disadvantaged in the dating world, we can choose to build ourselves up and really make something of ourselves. I know being overweight was a struggle for me. I was invisible to women, couldn't run up a flight of stairs for long, was self-conscious of my body. Shit sucked! But I made a dedication to do something and actually improve my physical attractiveness. I sweat, I cried, I wanted to fuckin…
/r/TheRedPill06/08/18 05:57 PM
5

"If she doesn't suck it, well, fuck it. I'll get my dick sucked by another chick. I just need my dick sucked by an attractive enough chick - not any specific chick." You know what to do then. lol. You should've just went in while you had the chance. On to the next one.
/r/askTRP06/08/18 05:45 PM
2

Damn this post is uncomfortable because I had similar thoughts as well. I like to think that I've swallowed the pill and know the stupidity of "falling in love" but the thought surfaces every once in a while. The only difference is that it's not a strong desire, just a fleeting thought that lingers occasionally.
/r/askTRP06/08/18 05:41 PM
4

It sounds like she's not even plate worthy. Too much hassle for some sex...
/r/TheRedPill03/08/18 05:54 PM
1

Yes, but you realize it's beta to try to reinitiate attraction with an ex-right? Better to move on with other women and let her make the first move. You are too invested. I'm sure you've read the other responses and it's similar to what I'm saying.
/r/askTRP02/08/18 04:48 PM
1

(Cringe) Why would you want her back?! There's too many fish in the sea! Have you even read the sidebar?
/r/askTRP02/08/18 04:35 PM
10

Angry black women is exactly as it sounds. She's sassy, she's loud, has an attitude, always puts the blame on guys, has an extreme sense of entitlement, and typically might be a single mom. They could be worth a pump and dump but that's probably not even worth it. Source: Black dude that came from the hood and seen many of these types.
/r/askTRP31/07/18 02:02 PM
5

Do Kegel exercises! Improves your endurance significantly.
/r/askTRP31/07/18 01:58 PM
4

I need to have training wheels as I haven't been exercising extensively since playing football in College. I also have a nutritionist to keep me on the right path and maximize my results. Do I need it? Not really. I know the information is available online but I want to get the best results so that when I don't need them I'll be more than good.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/18 02:09 PM
1

Don't plan to either. Just want to get my goals in motion within 6 months and then I'm solo.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/18 01:55 PM
1

I game them, although not my preference. In my experience, they tend to be freaks although hardly, if ever, LTR material.
/r/askTRP23/07/18 07:20 PM
9

Damn, brings me back to my day of having oneitis. I never thought the girl was a unicorn or anything but I wanted her bad and I did the most pathetic shit all in an attempt to get with her. I would hold her purse while she was in the bathroom, shop around the mall, and drop her off at a "friends" house. I used to have 3, sometimes 4-hour conversations with this girl late at night about her crying over the latest Chad who pumped and dumped her ass while thinking "Yes, I'm just one step closer to …
/r/TheRedPill23/07/18 07:15 PM
10

Exactly, I think it's actually harmful to look at this through the lens of failure. He learned an important life lesson and now he's implementing that in day to day life.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/18 07:06 PM
76

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Stagnation for a man is death. To not improve, no desire to further evolve yourself, and to be content with mediocrity is pitiful. Being able to go outside of your comfort zone is what you should be striving to do ALL THE TIME. Be comfortable being uncomfortable! Hell, I stayed up til 2 in the morning working on my blog because I want to make a supplementary income that doesn't require me to kill myself at ANOTHER soul-sucking job. I have to go to the gym …
/r/TheRedPill23/07/18 07:02 PM
2

This was the thought I had as I read this. I don't see anything about dread in here.
/r/askTRP19/07/18 06:05 PM
1

Mostly good but in my opinion, the conversation could've been much shorter. I would've said, "K, bye." Her: That's it? No fighting or trying to get back? Me: Yep
/r/askTRP19/07/18 05:58 PM
6

Just Googled Full moon party in Thailand. HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Sounds like the place to be for instant fucking.
/r/askTRP19/07/18 05:39 PM
-2

So much this.
/r/askTRP19/07/18 05:26 PM
2

It's just maintaining a healthy well being that improves your SMV as well as preventing things like high cholesterol and diabetes.
/r/askTRP19/07/18 05:24 PM
1

It's been a 6-month journey. I am 5'8 and was 250 pounds. After exercising intensely 3 days a week with moderate exercise 3 days a week (so 6 times total) plus eating vegan for a month I lost 55 pounds.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/18 01:58 PM
1

Thanks, man, appreciate it.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/18 01:57 PM
2

As someone who lost significant weight (and still has room to improve) this hit home. I had so many reasons to lose it. I had pre diabetes, asthma was getting severe to the point of near death via asthma attack, pretty much invisible to women, difficulty running extensively, life fucking sucked. I have far more energy, breathe easier, have gained lots of confidence, and my health issues have disappeared. Easily my proudest accomplishment in recent memory.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/18 02:05 AM
1

You didn't add anything particularly new but always good to reinforce these principles.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/18 01:59 AM
2

Too fucking relatable. Constantly missing basic signs of a girl DTF. This was me up until 18/19. I would buy girls flowers, hold the door open, treat them kindly, all kinds of cringe beta shit that makes me wanna slap my younger self. Much Much better to learn this lesson as fast as possible.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/18 08:06 PM
1

They are legit. She sent me a screenshot of them. My concern is that she's using this as a manipulation tool to convince me to be in a relationship with her.
/r/askTRP17/07/18 07:24 PM
1

Yeah, she's a textbook example, although not as extreme as what I've heard from other guys. Gaslighting, pornstar level sex, impulsive decision making, colors her hair weird colors, says "she loves me" quickly, tattoos, belly piercing, etc. I am in a good position right now, only have $8,000 left in student loans which I can pay off in 4 months and start saving.
/r/askTRP17/07/18 07:21 PM
6

She's Bi and is actually down for threesomes. Hell, she hooked me up with my first threesome.
/r/askTRP17/07/18 07:17 PM
1

Well, she has borderline personality disorder and always tries to get as much of my time as possible. So while it sounds too good it definitely has its own set of problems.
/r/askTRP17/07/18 07:06 PM
2

Thanks for a different take. I could go on as many vacations and fuck as many Brazilian girls as I want once I have my own business, get better opportunities and increase my SMV. It's just so damn tempting since it's free and I can use an escape in my life.
/r/askTRP17/07/18 07:03 PM
2

Do you mean being perceived as a simp for taking back a thot in exchange for a free vacation?
/r/askTRP17/07/18 04:28 PM
1

Somewhat. I know the very basics in order to initiate and continue a conversation for like 2 minutes. lol. "Always mention you are on vacation. It feeds into the "it just happened" narrative women love. Make sure they know you are a NSA fuck, youll be thousands of miles away next month, and their bf wont ever find out." Perfect advice and just what I'll use. Thanks!
/r/askTRP17/07/18 04:26 PM
7

That's what I'm worried about too honestly. She's a trust fund baby so I'm sure she just got her Dad to pay for everything and using all this as a way to "trap me in a relationship since I did something for you." I just want to be able to go on this trip, fuck the shit out of her and give her gina tingles, fuck 1 or 2 Brazilian girls, and leave in one piece without getting accused of rape or "sex without consent" with this damn #metoo movement.
/r/askTRP17/07/18 04:25 PM
3

Good to know!! Are they responsive towards foreigners? I hear they have some of the biggest asses, which already sounds like heaven on Earth to me.
/r/askTRP17/07/18 04:13 PM
3

Any advice for talking to women out of the country? I have only been to Canada and Thailand but that was when I was still BP. Also thanks for the tip, I'll take off as soon as I return back, she's BPD, and I'm tired of her crazy ass.
/r/askTRP17/07/18 04:11 PM
4

Alright sounds good. I'm still pretty new so I'm learning. So act perfectly normal, go on the trip, give a neutral answer if she brings the dreaded "What are we?" question. Oh, and game the fuck out of all the locals. Got that right?
/r/askTRP17/07/18 04:08 PM
1

not pokemons LMAO
/r/askTRP12/07/18 04:30 PM
6

Seriously. In my High School at least only the top 5% of guys ever saw any vagina. If you weren't "in" you pretty much got stuck with the ugly girls or had to find someone out of school.
/r/askTRP12/07/18 04:26 PM
4

No more excuses! Self Improvement in whatever capacity is a MUST.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/18 04:18 PM
1

Yes, I would next. Your time can be spent on better things than a boring chick.
/r/askTRP11/07/18 04:15 PM
3

Sounds like a good idea. You have options already so you have nothing to lose. Best case scenario: You get a new toy. Worse case: Your back to where you were already.
/r/askTRP11/07/18 04:12 PM
5

Sounds like the same girl that would say something like "I'm not that kind of girl, I'm different." Sure you are bitch. Just like the other girls that gobbled on my dick.
/r/askTRP11/07/18 04:10 PM
33

I would say that's impressive but I wouldn't glorify her for it. I would treat it much the same way I would my good bros. Give a genuine compliment, encourage them to continue, and treat them accordingly. No more, no less.
/r/askTRP11/07/18 04:08 PM
1

Sounds like there is too much back and forth with no follow up of meeting up. I'd probably just bag other girls in the meantime and then she'll "boomerang" back when she needs more attention.
/r/askTRP11/07/18 04:05 PM
1

I was mostly your typical blue pill chump. Anxious around girls, needy, would seek approval from others, didn't know how to lead, etc. I friendzoned myself for years. I would go shopping with this girl, hold her purse, go to the movies, all the while I was getting blue balls. I would think too long before approaching a girl, I was TERRIBLE at closing, I missed out on well over 2 dozen lays, and didn't have a social circle. Surprisingly though there was some glimmer of red in me, I was pretty alp…
/r/askTRP10/07/18 09:15 PM
4

No man likes average women that much. You'd be absolutely surprised at the amount of men who are willing to settle for average women. I've read quite a few forums recently of guys somehow finding average women "hot". When I ask them why they say her personality makes it worthwhile to which I say "I guess?" If everything being equal in personality I'd take a hot chick any day over an average one.
/r/askTRP10/07/18 08:57 PM
2

My take is that the vast majority of guys see 9's and 10's as beyond their league. In my observation, most guys just gawk and stare at the 9's and 10's without approaching. 7's and below get hit on daily because guys believe they can get these girls (despite the fact all women secretly crave the top 20%). I think the 7's and below get desensitized to the constant thirsty betas trying to approach and therefore act colder.
/r/askTRP10/07/18 08:52 PM
2

Few things turn a woman off faster than a needy beta who constantly seeks her attention.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/18 07:41 PM
2

At least you gave a disclaimer about getting a bucket because these texts were cringe as fuck. Damn shame you didn't fuck her the day the rapport started building up, sound like it would've been an easy lay. "Like lifting, you can't say I can eat whatever I want now I got a six pack. What I have accomplished mean nothing, and the frame from which I achieve those accomplishments mean everything." Love this line! Don't stagnate EVER. Always be looking to improve as a man and learning from your mis…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/18 06:28 PM
179

"I have finally become a man that I am proud of. I feel like I am still at the bottom of the mountain, but I am always climbing." Fucking love this line. Despite, having accomplished great success, hitting the gym hard, and investing heavily in yourself you are constantly looking to improve. Stagnation is like death to men, or at least that should be the mindset. Outstanding job for not only surviving these terrible situations but actually thriving and learning from them and seeing what you can …
/r/TheRedPill10/07/18 06:20 PM
1

Sounds similar to girls who are BPD. They constantly shit test, will try to control you emotionally, among other things. If you can pass the test you come out with a much stronger frame.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/18 04:27 PM
1

Yeah, I know the feeling. Lived with my Aunt pre-red pill and felt overly meek and timid because she would boss me around. Best thing I would do is work on some tangible skills like coding/trade school. Maybe even start a business? Maybe college isn't for you and that's fine. Get some marketable skills that will allow you to be in demand. Not sure if this will help you personally but I would always envision my life once I left and how I would be more free and easy going. I would remember the sit…
/r/askTRP03/07/18 03:11 PM
1

"I am desperate to have sex not because I feel pressured to, but because I've been curious for the longest time whether or not sex is as good as everyone says it is or if it's just an over hyped biological process." Nigga, we all know sex feels good. LMAO. Just be real, you feel pressured and want to fit in. Are there any parties you can go to and find some cute thot to bang? Or maybe spend $$ on a good looking hooker if you just care about losing your V-card.
/r/askTRP03/07/18 03:02 PM
4

Absolutely. For comparison, I hear that some people will say "Anyone can be successful if they work hard at it." But that's simply not true. Lack of motivation, not having resources or tools to succeed, an environment you are surrounded in that doesn't have ambitious people to thrive with, etc. Same with the Red Pill. I have a friend who I can educate him til he's BLUE (yes, pun intended) in the face and he simply won't grasp the concepts. I actually believe the opposite. Only a select few men a…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/18 02:40 PM
-1

Decent post and you bought up good points that I strongly relate to. However, there's something that I just can't agree with: "I came to the conclusion that within every male out there in society, THERE IS A DORMANT ALPHA WITHIN." No...No there isn't. There will be guys who will ALWAYS be effeminate, timid, meek, soft-spoken, and little doormats who put women on a pedestal. Some men will never wake up the Alpha because THERE IS NONE. Either you have some alpha in you, you have the potential, or …
/r/TheRedPill03/07/18 02:27 PM
1

http://www.blackdragonblog.com/ Thank me later.
/r/askTRP02/07/18 07:46 PM
1

"I want to plate this girl hopefully and i dont wanna blow the texting game." From this statement, you lack abundance. Don't focus too much on the outcome, just have fun. If she isn't down, whatever. If she is, cool. The mindset should be: "I have other girls I should be approaching and having fun with, I can't be worried about one girl." Best of luck.
/r/askTRP02/07/18 07:45 PM
2

Sure, there's no issue as long as she knows there will never be anything more between you. I only would take a Plate out periodically, maybe once or twice a month. Any more than this and it starts to feel relationship-y.
/r/askTRP02/07/18 07:40 PM
1

Yes, this was one of the biggest things I had trouble with when I was 17/18. I would smile or laugh at every little thing because I was nervous and girls picked up on it very quickly. Objectively, you would think there's nothing wrong with it but many find it to be either weird or compensating too much.
/r/askTRP02/07/18 07:36 PM
23

What was your success rate with the girls who came back after you knew they weren't interested? I call these girls boomerangs. Don't feel the connection so I ghost and they usually come back anywhere from 3-12 months later.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/18 07:38 PM
2

I too thought I had to be an asshole that treated girls like crap. After toning down the aggression I realized you can find a middle of being assertive, easy going, funny, charismatic, stand up for yourself, and still be a decent human. It's a tough middle ground but one that's worth it.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/18 07:35 PM
52

Yup. Damn, I love this post. I remember before the red pill I would be texting girls, hoping to make something happen. Slow text, one-word answers, the girl is "busy", among other indications that she's not interested. Now that I have decent game and have been losing significant weight it's like a day and night difference. Girls will "accidentally" leave their panties or lipstick in my apartment to come see me. They text me all the time and sound happy to do so, will show me off like some damn t…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/18 07:31 PM
92

So much this. I strongly believe for relationships to work in the man's favor the women have to be head over heels in love with the guy, cooking him food, cleaning his apartment, happily gobbling on his dick, among other things. For the guy, he can appreciate her company, reward her accordingly, and be the rock she relies on but being just as in love with her as she is for you is a recipe for disaster.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/18 07:23 PM
2

Good post. I occasionally use Instagram and Snapchat for shits and giggles but otherwise stay on my mission. Don't watch mindless TV garbage, not into the newest Netflix series, and don't bother to get into the worthless drama of my colleagues. On the surface I guess I've turned "boring" but I feel liberated in that I'm not wasting my time doing things that don't add value. I'm meal prepping now, learning how to code, looking for a higher paying job, thinking about Grad School, killing myself in…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/18 03:48 AM
1

Does he know that you both are fucking? Because if so that's mad disrespect. Granted, you and the girl aren't a thing so to be real anything goes.
/r/askTRP28/06/18 08:50 PM
1

Sounds like you were subtlely seeking her approval by getting the water when it wasn't even warranted. I wouldn't call you a white knight but keep that in mind for future reference.
/r/askTRP28/06/18 08:48 PM
2

If girls in school already have an impression of you at school (that's not "I want you to pull my hair and treat me like a dirty slut") I would just approach girls outside of school. Having fun conversations? In terms of topics, things that will usually have a girl talk endlessly in my experience have been horoscope signs, crystals, tarot card, themselves, etc. Interesting? Not really but you do what you have to. Don't overthink the interaction, don't beat yourself up if you fuck up, give an air…
/r/askTRP28/06/18 08:46 PM
1

I read this comment and immediately thought of some skank with the thousand cock stare.
/r/askTRP28/06/18 08:38 PM
0

Be more specific.
/r/askTRP28/06/18 08:36 PM
1

Wish I could upvote more than once. Had a girl shame me because I adamantly choose to live life the way I see fit and it doesn't have her included. "If I left tomorrow you wouldn't even care would you?" to which I replied "I'd be disappointed for a few minutes but then I would resume life and carry on without you." She got so pissy and defensive, was kinda amusing.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/18 08:33 PM
2

I’d rather stick my dick into a hole that’s only had 2 other dicks rather than one that’s currently being used by 5-10 dicks. i think we all would but what are the chances of that happening when sluts are being glorified and lying about their body count?
/r/TheRedPill28/06/18 08:28 PM
-1

Respectable response. My gut reaction would be to ghost but I think I'll try to implement what you said.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/18 01:49 PM
69

So much this. Not to mention women see sex as transactional, or might even see it as "doing him a favor" instead of something you both enjoy. I remember having a girl who tried to make me feel like the sex we had was one of a kind. Didn't exactly feel that way when she revealed she had a triple-digit body count.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/18 01:42 PM
6

Fucked a 23 year old mum that had a 6 year old kid. Sooo this chick got pregnant at 17?? Goddamn, she a thot.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/18 01:32 PM
17

Escaped a damn bullet. And the shaming language is the icing on the cake.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 09:23 PM
16

Holy shit, I had a girl who did similar things. Especially the "express my feelings and be more sensitive." If I did small gestures she would overanalyze every little thing and make a big deal out of opening the door for her. Super submissive though and was even down for BDSM which somewhat offset the crazy.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 09:19 PM
23

Sounds about right. Giving in to their shit test and rude behavior indicates that you can't stand up for yourself and don't have a backbone. Keeping frame, stoic, and assertive communication = Leader that I want. The tough part is consistently doing so which is draining.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 05:08 PM
1

As I became increasingly successful with women, through applying game, I suddenly noticed that my interest in women plummeted. I became very proficient at online dating, easily getting sex almost whenever I wanted it. Through this process however, the value of vagina became completely deflated. I began to understand how females must feel going about their life, knowing they could have sex any time they liked, reducing the value of males for sexual purposes. Likewise, through the recognition of t…
/r/askTRP26/06/18 09:29 PM
1

This. The affection he seeks could mostly be filled by a chick that you casually have sex with.
/r/askTRP26/06/18 09:19 PM
1

I have several other plates but don’t feel the same way about them. Guess I just have to accept reality. Similar situation for me. Have one particular plate that I like above the rest but then I realize she's still a plate. Sure, she deepthroats better, cleans my apartment, and leaves me alone when I'm stressed but there's a reason why I haven't made her my LTR (wants too much of my time and still in her party phase). It's alright to give her preferential treatment at your leisure but don't give…
/r/askTRP26/06/18 05:43 PM
1

This chick better be at least an 8 because and DTF because that is going through too many hoops for a girl's #. LOL
/r/askTRP26/06/18 05:33 PM
1

Well shit, if it feels as good as the real thing then I'll buy 5 of them and have a damn harem! #FeminismEnds #EnjoyTheDecline
/r/askTRP26/06/18 02:11 PM
3

You'll be ok. I'm a similar height to you and once I started working out in the gym hardcore and losing weight height became less important. I still get a little self-conscious about it because girls expectations are so fucking ridiculous but with decent looks, great clothes, hygiene on point, and game it gets so much easier.
/r/askTRP22/06/18 08:22 PM
1

Glad you were able to escape alive without any repercussions!
/r/askTRP22/06/18 08:17 PM
1

You won't even see her soon, I would just ignore until things pan out.
/r/askTRP21/06/18 06:52 PM
1

I think the better question is do you even want to hear about them? Also, is this a plate or LTR?
/r/askTRP21/06/18 06:50 PM
3

I really don't see what's the harm. I'm not one to do date logistics on social media but From what you said it seems like she's DTF.
/r/askTRP21/06/18 05:04 PM
3

Meh, I was still on Facebook and only had 200 followers on Instagram and that barely affected me (aside from the HB8 asking if I lived in the Stone Ages which I agreed and Amplified). When girls ask I would just casually say that I'm leaving all the distractions so I can focus on my studies or some shit like that. I usually just get their # anyway.
/r/askTRP21/06/18 05:01 PM
4

Short answer: No you shouldn't be worried. Long Answer: No you shouldn't be worried because you should be dating other women and not worried about what a single girl is doing. I would be too occupied setting up logistics with other girls.
/r/askTRP21/06/18 04:58 PM
2

Both although I'm talking mostly about the shelters. No. Problem, I'm not sure where you live but I'm in NYC. There's nothing but opportunities and places to meet others all the time, best of luck!
/r/askTRP17/06/18 01:23 PM
1

Oneitis is when you are so wrapped around this one girl that you just think about her and not pursuing anyone else. I don't think meeting up with a girl within a few days after sex is bad, although I can see how that can be perceived as too beta or even desperate. If I have other girls I'm casually seeing or just flirting a lot it keeps my abundance mentality in check.
/r/askTRP17/06/18 01:21 PM
2

Usually animal shops and food drives as well as some fancy luxury events at my Government job. It's perfect too because the majority of the time it's 80% women.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 09:34 PM
1

Ah ok! Makes sense now.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:29 PM
3

I'm not sure what you're asking here..
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:22 PM
1

I think you're reading a little too into this dude. If this was a plate I would say "Who gives a fuck what she thinks?" And since this is your LTR I think it's silly to think she'll perceive you as less than just for being irritable.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:21 PM
1

Agree and Amplify technique is your best friend in this situation.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:18 PM
1

Right.. But if the girl is interested (in my experience) she'll likely reach out in the next day or so. The girl will initiate and ask to get together and then we'll do the logistics. If a girl took even a week to contact back I'd probably forget who she was.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:16 PM
1

Sure I do it often. I'll make casual conversation with the bartender and then make some off-handed joke to the nearest person. After people see that I'm social (building social value) I then approach the women I'm attracted too. Practice this at least 5x.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:13 PM
0

The girl has to be invested in you. There are a few ways like: Making her do you favors, her paying on a date, her initiating most of the text. Even though men chase, in an ideal situation women should do the chasing especially after having sex.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:11 PM
1

Why do you wait 2 weeks to contact her? After sex, the vast majority of girls I've been with are eager to see me again so we just go for coffee or a walk in the park and then I invite them to my place again.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:09 PM
3

"how many quality girls have no plans on a Friday" Just answered your own post. She has plans alright, just not with you.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:07 PM
1

I do at nightclubs and bars. Usually goes pretty decently. I go to a lot of social gatherings as well as music festivals, networking events, and volunteering and chat up with anyone. Once people see how social I am then I make my move on the girls I'm attracted to.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 07:02 PM
1

"I have a couple bitches on rotation but they are just plates." No......No you don't. If you did why the fuck would you even be thinking about your ex even if it's just to fuck? If I'm balls deep inside 4 different girls I would not be thinking about my ex period.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 06:59 PM
1

This so much. After dating a BPD chick other women are a walk in the park in comparison.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 06:55 PM
3

This post really spoke to me. I too was with a girl with borderline personality disorder right as I was discovering the red pill. She was a single mom but had the fucking nicest ass and sex was like heaven on Earth and she sucked the soul out my dick. I WAS HOOKED. I saw the red flags like gaslighting, not wanting to take accountability, baby daddy drama, among other things and would break contact with the chick multiple times but she would always find my new #, come to my apartment uninvited an…
/r/askTRP15/06/18 06:53 PM
1

I'm happy you found this place! I personally got here around 22 which I still consider pretty young. I wasn't as bad as the behaviors you described but I definitely had the "All women are princesses that deserve to have a good man by their side to provide blah blah blah." Would love to hear an update about your future endeavors.
/r/askTRP15/06/18 06:45 PM
8

Before we begin with any techniques describe your SMV/general appearance. Then I can take it from there.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 10:48 PM
2

It's very possible, I had a friend who was like that. You'll have to compensate in other ways though... So for instance, maybe you don't have a stable income but you're tall or really in shape. Maybe you still live with your parents but you are well traveled and can really make women laugh. You have to put yourself out there and start going to events to meet new people, go to clubs with similar interest like debate or Greek.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 10:48 PM
6

Although I don't think this is the original purpose I strongly suspect this is a way for women to get instant $$ and attention. It's a win/win. Frame the guy for being a "predator" and make yourself out to be a victim. And get away with cash prizes and be called "brave" and "inspiring."
/r/askTRP30/05/18 10:44 PM
1

Very possible. They need something to justify why they aren't getting the attention they think they deserve via top 20% of men. After all, even the fat landwhales want to gobble on Chad's cock.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 10:41 PM
1

You are looking a bit too deep into it. With that being said most guys are invisible to girls. Girls really only pay attention when it's a hot guy or someone that doesn't take shit and is a bit aggressive. Most men (betas) are supplicating too much, put women on a pedestal, give girls tons of validation and approval, and bend over backward for the chance to clap some cheeks. That's boring and the last thing women want... Until they hit the wall and lose the very thing that got them lots of atten…
/r/askTRP30/05/18 10:39 PM
2

I'm only a year older but all your examples are amazing, and more importantly, they are practical. Dancing, volunteering, martial arts, investing and financial knowledge, networking, all make you more multifaceted and interesting/well rounded. The only thing I don't see is traveling, particularly out of the country. Being able to experience different cultures and upbringings different from your own brings character, not to mention you are bound to have some exciting story to share.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 05:18 PM
1

Your examples come off too passive aggressive. I would just be like "Cool" or "Alright" with an air of aloofness.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 05:14 PM
3

Nope, because I would ghost that bitch faster than you can say Danny Phantom.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 05:10 PM
2

Would love to hear an update later down the road. Best of luck.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 05:09 PM
2

Going to College just to get laid is wack. If you are going to make getting laid a priority at least build a network, build a skillset, and get a relevant degree. In terms of hooking up with college girls, there really is no easier time to hook up unless you have high SMV and/or approach constantly. After College, you have to put effort into meeting new people and going to events.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 05:06 PM
1

Was thinking the same thing. Unless your great at working with Artificial Intelligence and/or coding or own a profitable buisness College is pretty much the minimum requirement at this point.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 05:02 PM
2

You say that she was talking a lot of bullshit. Maybe amplify and agree (not sure if you are familiar with that term) would've been helpful in making the conversation carefree.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 05:00 PM
4

No need to check her phone. No guy gets paid to be a part-time FBI detector, she's going to do what she wants regardless if you are there or not.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 04:56 PM
3

LMAO!
/r/askTRP22/05/18 08:54 PM
0

"They’re plates who cares what they feel you’re not responsible. And I know but I reach to leave people better than I found them. And also participate in sex without it having to be a drama fest. I don’t like leaving a bad taste in their mouth or fucking them up even worst than they are." In my experience, it is what it is. Women will always want more and you can't control how they feel or how they'll react to something. While I think it's somewhat noble to want to leave them better than what th…
/r/askTRP22/05/18 08:53 PM
1

Seems like too much effort for minimal returns. My mindset: Forget this chick, I already have 2 other girls lined up and I'll continue to pursue other girls afterward. If she text me, cool let's set a time to meet up and then fuck. If she doesn't whatever, I'm fucking other girls anyway.
/r/askTRP11/05/18 04:53 PM
2

Are there any events in your area? Music festivals? Bars? Advocacy rallies? Maybe join a club that has a similar interest? Or create your own and invite people to join?
/r/askTRP11/05/18 04:47 PM
2

Thanks for the tip, I'll keep this in mind. I wish I would've been more discreet but I didn't think there was any harm in letting her know about upcoming events in my life.
/r/askTRP03/05/18 04:21 PM
5

Thanks
/r/askTRP03/05/18 02:51 PM
2

Maybe she just wants your attention and talks to you to kill time? From the sounds of it, you haven't hit the cheeks yet.
/r/askTRP03/05/18 02:44 PM
1

I would most likely laugh and next her.
/r/askTRP30/04/18 04:36 PM
4

Right... Not even Community Colleges do Trig from what I know. I smell a lot of bullshit in this post.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/18 05:54 PM
6

Soft next
/r/askTRP26/04/18 08:15 PM
3

It makes them stand out.
/r/askTRP26/04/18 08:14 PM
-1

After actually reading the story (LOL) I don't see the harm in it. You've already acknowledged you were being an asshole (and kinda petty tbh). Sounds like you thought about this enough and would like to continue. Only thing I would add is being ready if she doesn't want you and being ok with that. Good luck and would like an update.
/r/askTRP26/04/18 05:08 PM
6

Girls are NEVER truly single. They are getting pounded by someone or in the midst of doing so. Also, girls who complain about being single pass up on MANY decent guys and leave them in the friend zone. Guys that would love to take them on dates, treat them nicely, and attend to her needs but they don't want the nice guy, they want red pill, high testosterone motherfuckers who act like men.
/r/askTRP26/04/18 05:03 PM
1

Yup, exactly this.
/r/askTRP26/04/18 04:58 PM
6

Learn from this and know that you need to escalate and make your intentions known.
/r/askTRP26/04/18 04:57 PM
2

No need for downvotes, I've slowly been figuring this out myself. I will forever be grateful for the red pill for waking me up to the truth but it's really taking what you need and discarding other parts. There should honestly be a post about it.
/r/askTRP26/04/18 04:55 PM
1

Holy shit, thank you for posting this!! I had a similar experience (I didn't get fired though) where I apparently was looking at another girl on the street and it made my female coworker uncomfortable. Then when I complimented her on something she was wearing she made the conversation super awkward and called the boss. I was taken into a meeting with the Commissioner and all the head staff about how I was making my co-worker feel "uncomfortable" and "not safe". I don't even engage these girls un…
/r/askTRP26/04/18 04:24 PM
1

Obviously, you got a wealth of information on here. Now, I'm curious... How exactly did you hear about the red pill?
/r/askTRP26/04/18 03:40 PM
1

This is exactly my thoughts. Well said.
/r/askTRP25/04/18 01:39 PM
8

If the man has a red pill mindset but just doesn't want to take the extra steps to regularly game women that's not necessarily bad but he might have beta tendencies. My thoughts more align with dazlgwade and TheShearerComplex where if you are truly alpha you wouldn't have to pay for sex because you have options. Hell, in my experience, when your Alpha, girls will make the silliest excuses to come and get fucked by you. I've had girls say "I left my lipstick behind your bed" or "Can I borrow that…
/r/askTRP25/04/18 01:36 PM
1

How late was she? That factor would determine if I ghost or not. I would fall back for now and casually talk to her while talking to other girls on the side if you're not doing that already.
/r/askTRP24/04/18 08:37 PM
3

What I did in your situation was that I treated the gorgeous girl like an ugly girl. I'm not saying this will work for you but when I talk to gorgeous girls I immediately picture the ugliest girl I know and chat with that picture in my mind. I naturally start to relax, act nonchalant, and tease her without thinking of her feelings.
/r/askTRP24/04/18 08:34 PM
2

"Just because we're alone don't think we are doing anything" or "I'm not that kind of girl." Just nonchalantly say "ok" or "That's cool" like you don't care and then pursue later.
/r/askTRP24/04/18 08:28 PM
2

Say that your "studying for an upcoming test and need your privacy." My parents hated me bringing over strangers to the house but because they placed high importance on school they would let me bring back girls. I would turn the TV up and be balls deep in 10 minutes. Good times.
/r/askTRP24/04/18 08:26 PM
3

To be honest it's liberating. No more wasting time, no more drama, etc. Also, you have to look at it in a different lense. If you delete your account you have to force yourself to look for events in your area and be sociable hence building your social circle.
/r/askTRP24/04/18 08:23 PM
3

Lmao. Slow down there buddy. Shit happens, I wouldn't be so quick to call it a red flag. She at least rescheduled which shows she is still interested. If she is really accountable she'll be there early and make it up to you.
/r/askTRP24/04/18 08:20 PM
3

Sounds like oneitis dude.... You sound way too emotionally attached to your plate.... Buying roses? Listening to her talk about her marriage proposals? This isn't some LTR material girl, it's some chick you're fucking. Treat her as such.
/r/askTRP24/04/18 08:17 PM
-1

I assume so, it's kind of implied.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/18 03:57 PM
1

The goal of red pill is whatever you want it to be. Want to have sex with lots of girls. There's content here for that. Long term relationship, but don't care for marriage? That's covered too. Lifting and personal hygiene is also a thing here. Really, it's just a way to get you where you want to go in life.
/r/askTRP20/04/18 02:49 PM
2

You know what to do bro
/r/askTRP18/04/18 01:22 PM
1

As someone who is a similar height to you, I'm going to say get the damn heel lifts!! You'll thank me later. Seriously, it seemed silly at first but height makes all the difference. I went from getting sideways glances once in a while to girls being more upfront and receptive. To further put this in perspective there was one girl I approached nearly a year ago and failed. Said, "I like a guy who is tall blah blah blah." This past weekend saw her again and tried again (she didn't recognize me). L…
/r/askTRP17/04/18 08:10 PM
4

"I made her jealous by letting her know indirectly that i was talking to my ex gf, she gets angry, i assure her and make her feel better about herself and that she's my only one... ( still don't know if this is the right thing to do..)" Let's start here. If this were me I would've said: "Yeah, we have a thing." This gives your plate the perception of pre-selection and that you're a high-value man because you attract other women. "Two days ago i started being romantic, (very romantic - showing he…
/r/askTRP06/04/18 09:38 PM
2

This is just me but I would question if she trusts me. I value my privacy so I'm not showing her shit, and if she has a problem with that then NEXT.
/r/askTRP06/04/18 09:09 PM
1

No contact actually. Soft next implies that he's going to actually reach back out to her when it sounds like she's not interested.
/r/askTRP04/04/18 01:32 PM
1

If she talks about sex first.....that means it's on her mind.... And if it's on her mind and she is saying "she's not that kind of girl".... Chances are likely you'll be smashing her as long as you don't fuck up.
/r/askTRP04/04/18 01:30 PM
12

Sounds like you need to get in Monk mode and focus on yourself, work on your hobbies, further your career, etc to push through the anger phase. "I heard that pussy only matters if you aren’t getting any. Is that true?" Yeah. I always thought about having sex with different girls and while I was still productive it was a constant thought. Now that I have a few plates pussy isn't something I think about because it's readily accessible. From your post, I assume you would like to be in a Long-term r…
/r/askTRP04/04/18 01:28 PM
1

We need more context..... Are you tall? Do you act beta? Have shitty hair? Wear anime shirts? Have good physique and posture? Also, read the sidebar.
/r/askTRP03/04/18 08:23 PM
1

Depending on where you live I can throw a plate (ha!) your way. I'm literally trying to downsize the girls I have. In regards to your post though, you have to have a sense of aloof/indifference. "She's not mine, it's just my turn. Girls will reject me and I might get down about it but eventually, I'm going to get a yes." Some people can "fake it til they make it", others have to psyche themselves up, etc. Where do you go to meet girls? Nightclubs are near instant ways to get a ONS, potentially a…
/r/askTRP03/04/18 08:18 PM
1

There are the top 3 I spend time with the most and they're pretty cool. The others I just call literally when I'm bored. Think I'll just focus on the ones that will stay for longer and give the rest to my friends. That last part you said especially resonated with me.
/r/askTRP03/04/18 08:14 PM
1

This is what I need to hear. I have 3 solid ones that I know will stay around for a while and get my needs met. I guess I just feel that since I took the effort of approaching these girls why just let it go. 2-3 will keep me sane and I can still achieve my mission in life.
/r/askTRP03/04/18 08:12 PM
2

I honestly believe that's my ideal balance too. I don't care for 10 different girls, I just want 2 or 3 I can get some steady sex from and go about my life. Thanks for your response!
/r/askTRP03/04/18 03:28 PM
2

Nothing makes a man quicker than a life or death experience amirite?!
/r/askTRP03/04/18 03:06 PM
1

That was my exact thought. He would get nearly all the benefits of marriage (except taxes and other small things) without any of the bad things.
/r/askTRP26/03/18 09:11 PM
1

haha. Sounds like me. I'm always trying to get into weddings for this very reason. And the bridesmaids are usually jealous/lonely because "it's not her."
/r/askTRP26/03/18 09:07 PM
1

Or you can find a middle ground? I plan on getting into a long-term relationship (eventually) and will pursue a woman who doesn't care for marriage. Seems like a win/win in my book. I get the fulfillment and stability of a relationship without the potential drawbacks of a marriage.
/r/askTRP26/03/18 09:05 PM
2

If this is true you are definitely the exception, not the rule. The vast majority of men that get divorced are headed to the cleaners.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/18 07:24 PM
28

Great post. A woman will only acknowledge you when you're SMV is much higher than her own. She'll cook, clean, have sex happily whenever you want, iron your clothes, and rarely get out of line when you bring more to the table.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/18 07:12 PM
3

Lots of hamstering there buddy....
/r/TheRedPill26/03/18 06:51 PM
5

Fat women fuck a lot. So fucking true. I've had a few fatties before and they would casually let it slip that they had threesomes and guys running a train on them. Will never forget when one told me "I'm getting tired of having threesomes, I just need to settle down with a nice guy in a few years who can provide for ME, buy a house for ME, and treat me like a Queen.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/18 06:50 PM
3

Doesn't Atlanta have way more girls than guys? There should be more than enough fine looking women to choose from! With that being said it sounds like your approaches and maintaining rapport is good but your closing is bad. Do you take too long to make things happen? Do you go days without talking to a girl? Or you building comfort with her and making sure she feels attracted to wanna come to your house?
/r/askTRP21/03/18 07:28 PM
1

Elaborate more. What's your conversation with girls?
/r/askTRP21/03/18 05:27 PM
2

Thanks for the advice. One of the mods from a few days ago was sharing how less than 10% was the ideal body image and his journey of becoming healthy. I'll keep this in mind.
/r/askTRP21/03/18 05:24 PM
2

Obviously. But I like to break things down so there's no confusion.
/r/askTRP21/03/18 05:09 PM
3

I live in NYC where I have my own place (rare in such an expensive city), have a good paying government job, pretty witty and charismatic, fuck good. I'm average height and have thinning hair, but can't control that. I have other plates I'm fucking, mostly 5's and 6's so she just happens to look better than all of them and I think I'm getting too eager. I'll continue to boost my SMV and not pedestalize a hot chick just because she's finer than what I'm used to.
/r/askTRP21/03/18 05:06 PM
-1

Did you read my post? I have other plates already and I already said: "She's not mine, it's just my turn." The plates I have are 5's and 6's so they pale in comparison to her and I think that's making me more eager than I want. With that being said you're right, I'm looking for a shortcut when the only surefire way to go about is to improve my SMV. I am in the process of getting my body fat down to less than 10%, so I still have a way to go.
/r/askTRP21/03/18 05:01 PM
3

If your SMV was 9 then....why are you even here? lol. You lift and you're 6'2, cool. Do you come off confident, clear, and tonality is good? Or do you sound like some needy, desperate, beta who puts women on a pedestal? When approaching women and getting their #, do you think "She's the one, I hope this really works out!" Or are you more "Cool, I have her # and I'll catch up whenever I get the chance. I'll approach even more girls so that I keep my options open."
/r/askTRP21/03/18 04:55 PM
1

Which I think I do pretty well, as in teasing her like a little sister, not putting her on a pedestal, calling her on her bullshit, etc. I'll just continue as is then.
/r/askTRP21/03/18 04:51 PM
3

Unfortunately, this is part of the game. Every girl is going to ask "What are we?" or "I want more." I just keep it real and say I'm not looking for anything long-term and focused on my career. Most of the time the girl will ghost me for a few days and then call me saying she misses me. She ends up coming over later that night and I fuck, but now her mindset is "He will change his mind eventually." (I never do). The other time's girls just can't take it and leave forever. No biggie, there's othe…
/r/askTRP21/03/18 04:35 PM
2

I don't think he needs to stop seeing her, just stop being emotionally invested and understand she's everyone's slut.
/r/askTRP06/03/18 09:06 PM
3

I wouldn't care what the girl is doing as long as I bust my nut but that's just me. In the hood, we call girls like her "community pussy", she's for everyone. "She's not yours, it's just your turn."
/r/askTRP06/03/18 09:04 PM
1

Read the edit dude.
/r/askTRP05/03/18 03:07 PM
1

I'm down.
/r/askTRP02/03/18 10:10 PM
3

Don't beat yourself up. But yeah, she's not into you otherwise your dick would be up her throat already. She probably has some Alpha Chad railing her and just talks to you when she's bored.
/r/askTRP02/03/18 10:09 PM
1

After thinking it over I agree. I believe because I'm in a good spot in my life (just got my Masters, City Job, losing weight, IDGAF attitude) she morphed into a "unicorn" and became the best women to appeal as an LTR. I work in Social Services so I see examples of it all the time but I guess the honeymoon phase of few shit test, awesome sex, being submissive softened me up a bit. Thanks for this, I'll just keep her as a plate and go from there.
/r/askTRP02/03/18 08:37 PM
2

Yeah, she seemed to be on her best behavior when I let it slip that I work at the Mayor's office. You're right, she has too much baggage and I can get a girl without all that. Well as the saying goes "She's not yours, it's just your turn."
/r/askTRP02/03/18 08:28 PM
1

She doesn't have any diseases, we both got checked a month ago.
/r/askTRP02/03/18 08:14 PM
1

I'm in NYC so no shortage of women. Don't get me wrong I consider this a red flag too. And I'm not naive to think that "several" means 20 or 30. Probably pushing triple digits for all I know. But when a girl is having sex for survival, not just for the addiction of validation and approval from multiple Chad's is it treated the same? That's what I'm trying to figure out.
/r/askTRP02/03/18 04:02 PM
2

Almost 4 months.
/r/askTRP02/03/18 03:57 PM
-2

So much judgment... If I used to be homeless, especially of no fault to my own but got my act together I would hope no one would judge me that much. He was literally beating the crap beat out of her, and then kicked her out because boyfriend didn't want her visiting her family and she couldn't take it anymore. On to the other stuff, she's been cooking, knitting, and cleaning since a kid taught by her mom. The singing is pretty recent though. And she had sex for SURVIVAL, not because she wants to…
/r/askTRP02/03/18 03:56 PM
1

Read the side bar dude.
/r/askTRP02/03/18 03:20 PM
1

Why are you still in contact with her? I would break all contact, social media, text, calls.
/r/askTRP02/03/18 03:20 PM
1

Show her the door. Going through your phone shows she doesn't respect you. It could also be a shit test to see how far you will let her go. I would ghost that bitch faster than you can say "Danny Phantom."
/r/askTRP02/03/18 03:17 PM
13

"The issue is that it’s not even a fear of rejection now. I knew if I approached, I had it in the bag. My friend even mentioned that would have been the easiest lay ever The question is why couldn’t I do it? Is it something deeply rooted in me that I can’t approach even when chances of me succeeding is high." It's EXACTLY that, fear of rejection. If there's a girl who's interested in me and there's a high chance I fuck why wouldn't I approach?
/r/askTRP02/03/18 02:48 PM
11

Sounds like your mindset is slowly changing. Would liek to hear an update or even a field report on what are some other changes you have observed.
/r/askTRP02/03/18 02:42 PM
2

I wouldn't be bothered personally. He sounds like a thirsty beta who will forever be in the friend zone. I had a girl who did that to a guy and I would just laugh because he doesn't realize how pointless it all is.
/r/askTRP28/02/18 08:32 PM
2

Pretty much confirming what others said already but pursue other girls as a way to get your mind off her too much.
/r/askTRP28/02/18 07:57 PM
1

I think you did the right thing. Just because red pill emphasizes masculinity doesn't mean you need to battle fucking Brock Lesner motherfuckers to get a girl. How to prevent this? Be more aware of reading the room, observe whose with who gives a better feel for the situation and who to approach.
/r/askTRP28/02/18 07:51 PM
1

Personally, this is damn near a deal breaker. Just like some guys mentioned already your girl should be excited and eager to want to fuck, not be indifferent to it. Talk to her about it and see if the behavior changes. If not, you know what to do next.
/r/askTRP28/02/18 07:46 PM
3

What's the point of leaving?
/r/askTRP28/02/18 07:38 PM
1

Everyone pretty much said it already but one thing stood out. You mentioned her making you an orbiter, I doubt orbiters are kissing or touching the girl, they just meekly spend time with the girl, hoping to fuck.
/r/askTRP27/02/18 07:25 PM
3

Had a girl recently who cheated on her boyfriend with me. She's a single mom with bipolar and a college drop-out. Poor beta bitch decided to take care of the kid because "That's what strong men do." We were at a conference in this hotel and she kept sending me nude pics, telling me how much she wanted me and how her boyfriend is too fat to satisfy her. (Dude is easily over 400 pounds). After fucking her senseless she starts saying how "She's usually not like this" and "It's not really cheating s…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/18 03:23 PM
1

I read some of the comments and your responses to them so the only thing I want to add is to make sure to keep your emotional investment low. Since this is the only plate you're currently fucking you might feel compelled to watch movies with her, take her on nice dates, and dumb shit like that. Just fuck the shit out of her and be indifferent. Have fun.
/r/askTRP26/02/18 05:41 PM
14

Abundance mentality. "This girl is replaceable and I can find another quickly if I need to. She's not mine, it's just my turn."
/r/askTRP26/02/18 05:29 PM
8

Wow... What a fucking cunt. Was probably mad no guy was hitting on her and her friend was getting attention.
/r/askTRP26/02/18 05:28 PM
2

Honestly, I would just ignore it unless she brings it up. I don't have time to answer silly things like that when she knows I like her.
/r/askTRP20/02/18 10:20 PM
2

No, it doesn't. There are some guys that befriend girls because they know they can use the girl for social value and to get closer to her other attractive friends. In other cases, the girl is simply not attractive but she's cool as hell and adds value to your life. Maybe the girl just has good connections to jobs, free events, nightlife, etc.
/r/askTRP20/02/18 10:17 PM
2

High School is the peak. That just means you might have to put more effort and refine your social skills but you'll be ok.
/r/askTRP20/02/18 10:13 PM
1

Yes! I currently work at the Mayor's office!
/r/askTRP09/02/18 03:11 AM
1

Your story is confusing though and full of holes. 😒 You say a "random girl approached me and called me out on something that shook me." Later on you say "I'm going to work on that trait without letting on that she was right." If this is a random girl then why do you feel compelled to work on this trait? And how would she know she's right if she's random, implying she's a stranger? You claim you have "good frame" but you seem easily rattled here. We're here to help you for SELF IMPROVEMENT, if yo…
/r/askTRP07/02/18 01:53 AM
1

You handled it well I would say. Continue to have that abundance mentality and not feeling compelled to check up on the girl. Practice, and welcome!
/r/askTRP06/02/18 11:56 PM
1

Do what you feel comfortable doing! Nothing is really holding you back from what you've written.
/r/askTRP06/02/18 11:53 PM
5

We need more context man.
/r/askTRP06/02/18 11:52 PM
11

Easily my favorite quote in TRP. My interpretation is "My interaction with this girl will be temporary, it will inevitably fall apart in some shape or form. I will enjoy her for as long as she's in my company, but if she leaves or likes another guy, then whatever. She's replaceable and I don't need to dwell on it." Spinning plates and Polyamory really have no difference in my opinion. Provided your having sex with 2 or more girls that's pretty much a poly relationship right there.
/r/askTRP06/02/18 11:51 PM
4

My purpose came to me. I was in the foster care system and hated everything about it, whether it be the social workers, mandatory meetings, or the annoying kids in and out of the house. Found that I wanted to change the system and not have so many kids experience that bullshit, which is why I aspire to be the Commissioner in New York City and make direct changes. What do you like doing? Things that excite you? Topics that make you excited? Something that helps people and brings value to your com…
/r/askTRP06/02/18 11:46 PM
9

I think it's more of the second one. It's the best way to feed a guys ego while still rejecting him.
/r/askTRP06/02/18 11:42 PM
5

Favorite response honestly.
/r/askTRP06/02/18 11:40 PM
1

I honestly would just ignore the girl and pursue other women. If the women want me back she'll make it clear and I shouldn't have to go through indirect body language to gauge her interest. In the case I'm interested in putting her back to plate status I usually do the dread game and will have a female friend (has to be attractive) I use as social status so that the girl perceives that I have other women in my life, making her jealous.
/r/askTRP06/02/18 11:39 PM
1

I feel like this should be in another subreddit. But to answer your question I was out of Community College for a bit a few years back and couldn't find a job to hire me. Kinda floated around feeling sorry for myself but then I started slowly making networks and pushing my resume out. Didn't get results, wanted to quit but kept at it. Made small progress like a callback, flunked an interview, kept going at it. What helped me was a positive attitude and a good support system of family and friends…
/r/askTRP06/02/18 11:35 PM
17

I was there before. I had a great girlfriend who treated me well, minimal shit test, sex was great, wasn't entitled, supported me in my endeavors, and was a fantastic cook. I felt that anxiety of "not wanting to lose her." But then Red Pill came and I stopped putting her on a pedestal. She's replaceable and I can always find another one. Sure, I enjoy the time we spend and she does mean a lot to me but if we separated the next day I'll feel my wave of sadness and continue on my journey. I stay o…
/r/askTRP31/01/18 04:10 PM
1

You beat me to it! I was going to say it's always easier to start out with a new girl than a girl who's already familiar with you UNLESS your SMV has dramatically increased.
/r/askTRP31/01/18 04:04 PM
4

You can always go full beta. Her pussy will dry up faster than water in a barren desert. She'll lose respect and attraction quickly and most likely break contact.
/r/askTRP26/01/18 04:08 PM
3

Are you dating this girl? Just friends with her? We need more context dude.
/r/askTRP26/01/18 04:05 PM
1

Exactly the right attitude to have.
/r/askTRP26/01/18 04:03 PM
3

Just be affable and approachable. In my opinion, it's the middle ground of someone who is easy going and confident. Don't have poor body language like slouch shoulders, looking away, putting your hands in your pocket, fidgeting. These indicate low self-worth/esteem. Do have good eye contact, shoulders are straight, back is postured strong, tonality is clear and strong.
/r/askTRP25/01/18 07:41 PM
1

No one should hit anyone. With that being said the gloves come off in terms of self-defense, especially if she is trying to hurt you. A slap or push I can brush off though.
/r/askTRP25/01/18 07:35 PM
5

Oh well, I would just let it slide, doesn't sound like she's that important.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 10:07 PM
3

You sound too .... passive. You have to call out women (or anyone in general) when they don't do things that match up. In any case, I would just fuck other girls and soft next her and wait for her to reinitiate contact.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 10:06 PM
11

She wants the D. And I'm not talking Domino's. XD
/r/askTRP22/01/18 10:01 PM
1

Not a bad problem to have. Personally, I would pump and dump them until you find someone worthy of your time.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:54 PM
1

Meh. Even if your having a hard time getting laid I would continue to hard next. Much easier to fuck a new girl than an old girl that you had history with.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:52 PM
1

Yeah you fucked up. I would've played it cool and just be like "Nah, just trying to get to know you better " or some shit. If she's talking about sex first then it's already on her mind and she wants it with you.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:48 PM
4

The only thing stopping you is possibly an awkward interaction? I would just do it if you don't, nothing will happen.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:45 PM
2

I'm guessing you haven't smashed this girl already? If it's been 4- 5 months already I would just ghost her and cut off contact. That's wayyy too long to pursue sex from one girl. Hell, a month feels too long.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:43 PM
1

Pretty much this.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:39 PM
1

Also, I assume you're in College? What's the subject and do you feel confident in it? Have you been going to a tutor? Asking classmates for additional help?
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:38 PM
0

Let's start from the bottom up. You say you're doing an online business. That's awesome! By all means continue doing it, especially if it brings value and makes profit. Now, onto the other parts. I'm not much older than you, only 25. I'm actually slightly overweight, average height, I have good looks though. Despite this while, I'm no lady killer I definitely have had my share of success with women. When you try to initiate are you giving off a confident vibe, a man who is in control, can tease …
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:37 PM
2

Depends.. Is this a girl you're fucking, trying to fuck, or just a casual friend?
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:28 PM
7

Short answer: They got all the attention and validation they need plus some sexual stuff all without actually putting out.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 09:27 PM
2

The sidebar is literally on the right side of your computer or phone. Read the material and truly internalize it before you make a post. That's why everyone is giving you crap
/r/TheRedPill04/01/18 07:00 PM
2

"I am in the top tier (10%) of men that have the correct knowledge on women's sexuality." Just because you have knowledge doesn't mean your in the top 10%. Before you deleted your post a lot of what you wrote was being a nice guy, someone who doesn't take enough action, and someone who is too outcome dependent. You can have all the knowledge but if you never utilize it what's the point? With all the "correct knowledge" you STILL couldn't get laid. That's pathetic! Instead of smiling you should b…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/18 06:56 PM
2

Thanks for sharing! Now that you reflected on what you did in 2017 what are you going to do differently this year to get laid, to have friends, to be your best self? What have you learned from all these experiences?
/r/TheRedPill04/01/18 03:47 PM
2

Very true! Luckily I'll never know. XD. Anyway, she's not mines, it's just my turn. So I'll enjoy the fuck out of it until it's all over.
/r/askTRP03/01/18 03:58 PM
1

Completely agree. I remember when I was in between jobs and only had a limited amount of money until my new career started. People thought I was crazy to spend a few hundred dollars on a personal trainer but I told them I'm tired of making excuses, I need to do this. I believed everything would work itself out and glad to say it did. Don't procrastinate, don't think too hard, just do it.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/17 03:49 PM
1

Sounds like she was responsive to it from the laugh and the playful slap further confirms that. Good stuff. Would like an update if you clapped the cheeks or not OP a week from now. LOL
/r/askTRP28/12/17 03:45 PM
1

This so much. Especially if previously she says explicitly that she's interested but when it's time to meet up she's flakey. I'm not about to wait weeks just for the priviledge of taking her on a date or just hanging out.
/r/askTRP28/12/17 03:42 PM
1

Everyone more or less said it but she might not be interested. A girl who is really interested will go out of her way to see you. I live in NYC and I had a girl that came from Bumblefuck, NJ on a 3-hour ride with barely enough money just to see me. Just next her and pursue other girls.
/r/askTRP28/12/17 03:38 PM
1

There's more fish in the sea. You can keep pursuing but make sure you're still talking to other girls to maintain abundance mentality.
/r/askTRP28/12/17 03:33 PM
1

I noticed that taking charge and facilitating meetings, thinking of innovative ideas, and making the documents more readable and efficient has gotten me more attention. The petite little 32 year old office slut has been grabbing for my attention lately but I just shrug her off. Now, that my office is starting to have more women and I'm taking more leadership the women in general seem to be attracted to me.
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