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| 2 | Same Day Hook-Ups From Cold ApproachesI think it just sounds cool on the surface. It's like the ultimate "I'm a player" brag to normies. "I met this girl and then an hour later she was in my bed" 😎🫸🫷😎 But outside of just being a unique experience and showing a guy what's possible, it's a huge waste of time. | /r/seduction | 22/07/26 11:49 AM |
| 2 | 🗣️Why Tonality And Expressiveness Are Important And How To Improve ThemYeah if a routine "works", I would say that's a decent indication you have good tonality and you could go more natural. I personally teach the opposite. I start with improving tonality on completely normal conversations and use that as a baseline to then become more expressive. | /r/seduction | 21/07/26 01:24 AM |
| 1 | How is this supposed to work for guys who have ADHD?ADHD generally doesn't affect social skills that much. I have ADHD (diagnosed at 9 back when the standards for diagnosis were way higher) and I'm a pickup coach. I've also coached other guys who have ADHD and usually the problem isn't that they can't pick up on social cues, it's that they don't care enough or see a big enough benefit in the moment to actually focus on it. Also remember, there's plenty of guys without ADHD who have bad social skills. I would wager that those two things are unrela… | /r/seduction | 20/07/26 06:25 PM |
| 1 | How would you proceed with cold approaches?Don't listen to this guy. Cold approaching is a great way to meet women. The only guys I've seen advise against cold approach are the guys who are too scared to do it or were not good enough to actually get any results from it. If it weren't possible, I literally would not be in business since I'm a pickup coach and the main thing I teach is day game. If you only wait for warm approaches, you're going to do very few approaches and to get very little results. A girl showing you interest does not … | /r/seduction | 20/07/26 06:22 PM |
| 3 | Same Day Hook-Ups From Cold ApproachesNope, insta dates naturally have lower success rates and take more time on average to get a hookup no matter how good you are. There's three main reasons for this: The girl might not be ready (hasn't showered and been walking around all day/just went to the gym etc) so she's not going to hook up because she feels "gross" She might have somewhere to be soon or just later in the day and hooking up would mess up her schedule Insta dates require no investment from the girl. For a normal date, the gi… | /r/seduction | 20/07/26 06:11 PM |
| 1 | 🗣️Why Tonality And Expressiveness Are Important And How To Improve ThemCan you reword that? I'm not sure what you're asking. | /r/seduction | 20/07/26 06:04 PM |
| 2 | I'm so done with cold approches🙍: is it serious doctor? 🧑⚕️: oh yes, quite serious 🙍: give it to me straight 🧑⚕️: you have a huge amount of cope built up in your system. Combined with no active learning and a low ability to self reflect and improve, it's a sure-fire recipe for being a whiny baby and complaining that cold approach doesn't work. 🙍: is there anything I can do to fix it? 🧑⚕️: sorry, son. If you've gotten to this point, you are probably so mentally lazy and have such horrible self awareness, that it's unlikely … | /r/seduction | 20/07/26 02:45 PM |
| 1 | 🗣️Why Tonality And Expressiveness Are Important And How To Improve ThemTrue, good point | /r/seduction | 17/07/26 01:49 AM |
| 2 | 🗣️Why Tonality And Expressiveness Are Important And How To Improve ThemHell yeah 💪 | /r/seduction | 17/07/26 12:08 AM |
| 2 | 🗣️Why Tonality And Expressiveness Are Important And How To Improve ThemOne thing to keep in mind is that the changes aren't extremely noticeable unless you do them consistently. So if you just do them once before a social gathering, you'll have maybe a 10% temporary improvement but nothing crazy. It's the combination of doing the exercises, then going out and socializing and getting feedback /validation, then doing the exercises again, then going out again etc and the effect compounds over time and eventually it becomes a baseline of your personality. | /r/seduction | 16/07/26 11:49 PM |
| 29 | Picked up & hooked up with a woman sitting behind me at restaurant.There's always that one guy who has to downplay and put a negative spin on everything. | /r/seduction | 16/07/26 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Was so good she fell for me.Yep, a guy who is so amazing that he gets an escort to not charge money for sex would not be surprised at getting free sex. Also, escorts have sex with A LOT of people. Escorts have good sex all the time, and she still charges those guys. So him saying that he's so good that she did it for free doesn't make sense because I guarantee there's a bunch of other guys that have been better and she guaranteed still charged them. An escort not charging because the sex is good is like an employee not nee… | /r/seduction | 15/07/26 03:57 AM |
| 1 | I think i need to lose weight before datingYes. You will do absolutely horribly if you're overweight. Number 1 physical disqualifier. NO GIRL wants to be with an overweight dude. They will settle and take it as a consolation prize, but no girl PREFERS overweight guys. I've seen guys who are overweight approach hundreds of girls and get 2 or less dates. One guy I coached approached ~300 women and got two dates (no hookup) before contacting me. He lost 40 pounds and then started approaching again and immediately started getting dates after… | /r/seduction | 14/07/26 07:28 PM |
| 21 | Was so good she fell for me.It's crazy that guys will make up stories like this just to brag to a random subreddit for Internet points. You don't even realize that the way you word things in this post reveals how fake this story is. Guys with actual experience can easily tell. | /r/seduction | 14/07/26 05:36 AM |
| 1 | Five “we should make plans” in person, then no counteroffer over text. Which signal matters more?There's so much context missing that I'm not able to give an accurate assessment. What was said in the texts is extremely important here. If you're actually serious about wanting help, message me with screenshots of the convo and I can help. You can blur out any identifying info if you want. | /r/seduction | 13/07/26 01:29 AM |
| 1 | 🌃 How To Get Laid From Nightgame (Full Mindmap Breakdown)Mate, you made a whole one hour video explaining the process of filtering the right women from a crowd Ok so you didn't watch the video since I live in a city with 100k people, I need to adapt to these conditions Something you didn't mention in your original comment. | /r/seduction | 12/07/26 05:51 PM |
| 9 | Dates from OD vs approachGenerally speaking, the girls a guy can get from cold approach are slightly more attractive and slightly cooler/less weird/more normal. Also just the process of approaching is fun. I haven't met a single guy who is good at both online and approaching that prefers online. I've tried online a handful of times in the last few years (after quitting about 8 years ago) and it is mind numbingly boring and tedious. I can't even stay engaged long enough to turn the matches into dates. | /r/seduction | 12/07/26 06:02 AM |
| 1 | 🌃 How To Get Laid From Nightgame (Full Mindmap Breakdown)This is one of the most vague and unhelpful comments I've ever seen | /r/seduction | 12/07/26 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Staying soberThere's nothing you could do to make it easier, you just have to jump in and deal with any anxiety you have and try as hard as you can to do the same things you would if you drank. Eventually you'll get used to it and the anxiety will be gone. | /r/seduction | 06/07/26 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Flirting is NOT escalation!Completely agree. The entire logic behind most guys understanding of flirting is flawed. A lot of guys flirt because they think it will prompt the girl to either escalate herself or it will make her show a high amount of overt interest and when it reaches a certain threshold, the guy will be comfortable enough to make a move. Usually guys who have this mindset never actually make a move though regardless of the girl's interest level. They always find some reason for why the girl wasn't respondin… | /r/seduction | 06/07/26 04:59 PM |
| 28 | How do I become a top notch fuckboy?As a pickup coach who has been approaching for over 10 years, over 200 notch count, lived in 7 different major US cities (and visited several others, including in other countries), it is extremely difficult/rare to hook up with 9's and 10s just from cold approach. Not only is the confidence level required a lot higher, but the guys you are competing with for her attention are also generally higher smv. Combine that with the fact that all the very attractive girls in any city are usually scooped … | /r/seduction | 06/07/26 04:54 PM |
| 8 | What one thing improved your success the most ?What do you mean by "attract as many women as I want"? If you're hoping for girls to give you overt signs of attraction or for them to make the first move or make things easy for you, then you'll be waiting until you die. You're the one that has to make the first move, you're the one that has to ask for the number, you have to set up the date, you have to ask her back to your place, and you have to physically escalate. Not only will girls not escalate things forward pretty much at any time, but … | /r/seduction | 06/07/26 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Field report - failed miserablyOkay, that's nowhere near enough approaches to get any results, even if you're good at night game. 5 approaches is what I would do as a warmup before starting my ACTUAL approaching. The absolute bare minimum should be 15 approaches per night, ideally 20 or more. Do you do any day game? It's hard for most guys to go straight into night game because you need to think a little quicker on your feet and it's a lot higher stress / higher stimulation environment. It would be better if you got comfortab… | /r/seduction | 06/07/26 03:43 PM |
| 1 | What to do if she says "You're lucky"?"You're so lucky right now" "Why?" | /r/seduction | 05/07/26 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Field report - failed miserablyWere these 5 approaches the only ones you did that night? | /r/seduction | 05/07/26 10:37 PM |
| 0 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialDamn, and you throw in an ad populum fallacy at the end. Good job 👍 | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 06:52 PM |
| 0 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialOk so more assertions and zero rebutting of my arguments or reasoning for your own arguments. Have a good one, man | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 06:48 PM |
| -1 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialThat's just a complete logical leap. And you also didn't have any rebuttals to my points. Can you respond to the actual points I made instead of just making an assertion with zero reasoning on how you arrived at it? | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 06:44 PM |
| -1 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialCovert testing is where you actively construct a situation to see how the person reacts. I am not actively constructing situations. I am just looking at behavior. Having a "pass/fail" doesn't mean I'm testing them. By that logic every girl I don't approach because they "fail" to be attractive enough means I was covert testing them. "It becomes a problem when she passes a test, but because of your insecurity, you're still not convinced.". - yes that would be a problem, but that's not what I said.… | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 06:29 PM |
| 1 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialNone taken, which points do you disagree with? | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 03:00 PM |
| 1 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialNice, athletic, straightforward Ok, but how do you actually screen for being nice or straightforward? | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 03:00 PM |
| -1 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialWhich of these points are crazy and/or unreasonable? | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 02:58 PM |
| 1 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialWhich points do you disagree with? | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 02:58 PM |
| 1 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialYeah man, zero people who commented watched the video. Apparently not wanting a girl who actively embarrasses you in public, tries to hurt your feelings during arguments, uses sex to manipulate you, and cancels on you last minute with no justification is toxic and overthinking. | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 02:49 PM |
| 1 | How To Find A Girl Who Is Relationship MaterialWhich points were an example of covert testing? | /r/seduction | 28/06/26 02:40 PM |
| 3 | Holy fucking shit, stop complimenting women right away.Damn I guess the dozens and dozens of girls I've slept with from opening with a compliment thought I was beta the whole time. You can open with basically anything if you're confident. The lines you gave are so gamey it's hard to imagine a person actually doing them in real life. I doubt you've actually used them consistently. Withholding a single simple compliment is what someone does when they are insecure and think that any bit of positivity they give to a girl will automatically lower their v… | /r/seduction | 21/05/26 04:33 AM |
| 5 | My answer to the "do looks matter" questionSub 5 dudes who consistently pull girls that are 7+? A sub five dude would be someone who is short, overweight, and noticeably unattractive in the face. And you're saying you've seen MULTIPLE of those types of guys CONSISTENTLY pull girls who are 7+? | /r/seduction | 21/05/26 02:08 AM |
| 4 | My answer to the "do looks matter" questionJust so I'm clear on your position: you are saying that there are short obese balding guys in their forties that don't have a lot of money and don't have status that are consistently pulling attractive women? | /r/seduction | 21/05/26 02:01 AM |
| 4 | My answer to the "do looks matter" questionYes I'm aware, I specifically said in my comment that if they have status it's different. Being a promoter is high situational status in a niche that highly caters to women. | /r/seduction | 20/05/26 10:34 PM |
| 5 | Tips for success at Zumba classesZumba class? Jesus, guys will do literally anything to meet women except actually cold approach. | /r/seduction | 20/05/26 05:55 AM |
| 4 | My answer to the "do looks matter" questionK | /r/seduction | 20/05/26 05:53 AM |
| 14 | My answer to the "do looks matter" questionNo you don't. You're making that up because thinking that's possible makes you feel better. Now if those guys have status, that's a different thing, but I'm assuming you're not talking about that. | /r/seduction | 20/05/26 05:45 AM |
| 0 | Probably needs to be said about looksmaxxing... Unless you're top 1%, physical looks are a feature for women, not the main courseNo he didn't. He said looks get your foot in the door, but personality, confidence, communication skills etc is what actually closes the deal. Zero contradiction. Yes, if you look bad, your foot won't even get in the door to showcase the other traits. Everyone should looksmax. He's just saying looks won't take you all the way the large majority of the time. | /r/seduction | 20/05/26 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Just feel absolutely shit…What were the conversations like? What did you talk about? Did you try to bounce/isolate the girls at all during nightgame? For the day game IG approach, did you try for the number first or go straight to IG? Also, 10 approaches is only like half of a single approach session. It's going to take you literally hundreds of approaches (based on the average I see with the guys I coach and just most people in general) to get decent, so don't be too hard on yourself from only 10. Sidenote - most guys c… | /r/seduction | 17/05/26 10:59 AM |
| 1 | I really blew up the dateIt happens to the best of us. The only thing you can change is yourself. Work on bringing better energy, lowering your anxiety, having more fun etc and if the problem still persists, then you know it's the individual girl. The thing is though that women tend to take on the energy of the people they are with. So a lot of times, even if the girl isn't super fun or super upbeat / engaging, if you are those things, she will take that energy and start to be those things as well. | /r/seduction | 14/05/26 02:14 AM |
| 29 | How do you reach out to exes?You don't | /r/seduction | 12/05/26 11:16 PM |
| 1 | I really blew up the dateSounds like sexual anxiety and performance anxiety (performance in the sense of being judged for not doing "well" enough on the date) and you got out of the situation to not deal with it. | /r/seduction | 12/05/26 08:44 AM |
| 3 | Live Approach Demonstrations: Hit and Run ApproachesCompletely agree, a lot of game theory is about reducing or avoiding rejection as much as possible and trying to be as optimal/strategic as possible. One of my biggest breakthroughs, in addition to just putting in pure approach volume, was accepting rejection and just not seeing it as a big deal. | /r/seduction | 11/05/26 03:32 AM |
| 3 | Live Approach Demonstrations: Hit and Run ApproachesYep, lines and tactics are crutches most of the time. Getting better at just improvising and expressing yourself in the moment is a much better skill and applies to more situations than just the pre rehearsed ones guys have done in their heads. | /r/seduction | 11/05/26 02:34 AM |
| 4 | Live Approach Demonstrations: Hit and Run ApproachesThanks, yeah I've seen this trajectory so many times (including myself when I started) where a guy will do well at first and then hit some tipping point where they're doing too much and then actually start getting worse. I'm hoping I can save some guys the trouble. | /r/seduction | 11/05/26 02:32 AM |
| 2 | Should a 5ft 8 brown guy approach white women at all?One of my former clients who was a 5'6" Indian guy pulled a white college cheerleader as his first lay fromnightgame. Yes you should. One thing to note, he was in shape, dressed and groomed himself well, and had already approached hundreds of girls, so he had practiced and improved himself massively my that point. If you're not willing to approach hundreds of girls to improve before your first lay, don't even bother. | /r/seduction | 09/05/26 12:33 PM |
| 1 | How to give out vibes that get me hookups or get me laid?Just fyi I made a video response to this post. It's the most recent one on my profile if you want to check it out. | /r/seduction | 08/05/26 01:21 AM |
| 1 | 1st date (just drinks + apps)Hey man, I made a video answering this post. It's the most recent post on my profile if you want to check it out. | /r/seduction | 08/05/26 01:20 AM |
| 1 | No Stories about myself?Hey dude, I made a video answering your question in this post. If you go to my profile you can see my most recent post where the video is. | /r/seduction | 08/05/26 01:19 AM |
| 3 | Why are you in a situation where cold approach is your primary way to meet potential partners?Because who would want to be limited to the handful of women in your social circle? If most guys had the choice between near limitless options and a couple dozen options at most, most guys would choose limitless. | /r/seduction | 08/05/26 01:17 AM |
| 2 | Approaching women, am I just that ugly or am I missing something?Dating Coach here No you don't need to wait until a girl gives you some kind of indication to approach. And yes, you don't meet the minimum looks threshold for the majority of women so you are going to get very little results even if you approach a lot. The good news is that the main reason you don't meet the look threshold is because you are out of shape, dress badly, and don't groom yourself well. If you lost 40 lb, put on some muscle, dressed cooler, and had better styled hair/facial hair and… | /r/seduction | 06/05/26 01:43 AM |
| 3 | A girl ghosted me after I got std tested like she asked.(Vent)Ah, you're one of those guys that doesn't want to take accountability/accept reality. Ok let me switch to my standard advice for these situations. Yes, you're 100% right about everything. Her all bad, you all good. I'm going to stop responding. All that's going to happen is you're going to think of rebuttals and excuses for everything I say and not just take what I'm saying and self-reflect. | /r/seduction | 01/05/26 09:01 AM |
| 4 | I asked my date after it went sideways on what went wrongThis is a toss up, because she could just be an oversensitive b****, but there's also a chance you said what you said in an asshole tone or said more than what you're letting on. When I'm coaching clients, I have them record dates and sometimes they'll say "blah blah happened on the date" and then when I listen to it it's WILDLY different from how they describe it. I'm leaning toward you said it with a bad tone or bad wording. Even the bitchiest of girls won't react that badly just because you q… | /r/seduction | 01/05/26 08:57 AM |
| 1 | A girl ghosted me after I got std tested like she asked.(Vent)I don't see what that has to do with anything. | /r/seduction | 01/05/26 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Houston Daygame LocationsIn Houston Heights there's a bunch of restaurants/shops by Donovan Park. Yeah Midtown is good too. Galleria Mall is huge and has good volume on the weekends. | /r/seduction | 01/05/26 08:49 AM |
| 1 | A girl ghosted me after I got std tested like she asked.(Vent)It's because you texted multiple times when she said she was busy and then when you said "I can come to you" that 100% killed it. Very needy/impatient. | /r/seduction | 01/05/26 08:44 AM |
| 3 | What's your thoughts on fb cold approachesHow do you approach someone through the Internet? | /r/seduction | 27/04/26 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Feels like truly hot girls (8/10 or higher) are so hard to find outside of nightgame, social media or events.Nope, everyone else understood. Figure it out bro | /r/seduction | 20/04/26 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Feels like truly hot girls (8/10 or higher) are so hard to find outside of nightgame, social media or events.Reading comprehension = 0 | /r/seduction | 20/04/26 05:00 AM |
| 2 | The ultimate list of unattractive traits that turn off women even if they were initially interested in you.This is actually a great list. Good stuff | /r/seduction | 20/04/26 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Feels like truly hot girls (8/10 or higher) are so hard to find outside of nightgame, social media or events.Whole Foods, Target, your biggest local park/dog park, and whatever your local college campus is usually have plenty of 8+ in any city I've lived in. | /r/seduction | 12/04/26 11:10 PM |
| 2 | You just are not attractiveSo you're not going to answer my question? | /r/seduction | 12/04/26 10:52 PM |
| 1 | You just are not attractiveBTW I've coached 7 Asian/Indian guys under 5'7” and they've all hooked up with attractive white girls. Was it harder? Yes, but they put in the extra work and got it done. | /r/seduction | 12/04/26 10:46 PM |
| 0 | You just are not attractiveSo a Filipino guy who's 6'2', good looking, jacked, confident, and charming would not do well in North America? | /r/seduction | 12/04/26 10:44 PM |
| 5 | Feels like truly hot girls (8/10 or higher) are so hard to find outside of nightgame, social media or events.I don't know where you are, but I've never been to a major city where I didn't see at least 2-3 8+ girls walking around every day. You must be in a super small/crappy town. But also, those girls that are 8.5-10+ on social media are usually the 7-8.5's in the real world. No makeup, no filters, no clothes showing off their bodies etc. You've most likely passed multiple girls that are the attractiveness you're looking for. I've been on dates with several girls who looked good when I approached them… | /r/seduction | 12/04/26 10:27 PM |
| 0 | You just are not attractiveHe's half right. Race definitely matters, but not as much as guys think. I've coached several black, Asian, Indian etc guys who hook up with white girls. Race is not as important as facial attractiveness, fitness, height etc. If a guy is 6'2", good looking, built, and charming/confident he's going to appeal to the majority of women of all races. Most girls wouldn't look at a guy like that and think "wow he's in the top 1% of guys, oh but wait, he's black screw that". Most guys I've seen who say … | /r/seduction | 12/04/26 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Keep taking Ls with women?That's not an L, that's completely normal. Some girls just want to make out with a guy and that's it. Anyone who's done a decent amount of nightgame has made out several girls that just immediately leave, don't hookup, or didn't call/text back. 2 could just be a random bad streak having nothing to do with you. The only thing I can tell you is that making out with a girl is not necessary or beneficial most of the time unless you're ready to go all the way to sex. If it does happen though, try to … | /r/seduction | 10/04/26 12:33 PM |
| 2 | My date was late and waited until the time of our reservation to let me know so you know what I did…I blocked and left.I'm sure you did, bro | /r/seduction | 29/03/26 02:05 PM |
| 187 | My date was late and waited until the time of our reservation to let me know so you know what I did…I blocked and left.You value your time so much you arrived an hour early? | /r/seduction | 29/03/26 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Ex says we're over, but still picks up when I call.Because she still cares about you as a person, but is not attracted to you anymore. This is the answer. No nuance or further explanation needed. This is it. Absolutely nothing will come of this if you keep on reaching out. She sees you as the equivalent of a family member. If a family member called/texted you, you'd answer but you're not going to sleep with them. It's that. Stop contacting her. | /r/seduction | 28/03/26 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Anyone in NashvilleI am. I'm in Houston right now visiting family but I'll be back up there in a month or so. | /r/seduction | 28/03/26 04:39 PM |
| 10 | If a girl dances close to you - IOIThe girls DID help with your perceived value, you most likely just didn't do anything with it. Here's a few questions: Did you do any actual approaches yourself? Were you actually having fun with the girls and being conspicuous about it? Did you try to talk to groups of people and add them to your group? If no, that's why it seemed like nothing happened. You had a gun at a knife fight, but you never actually pulled the trigger. The girls are supposed to HELP, not do all the work for you. IOI's d… | /r/seduction | 28/03/26 10:26 AM |
| 8 | How to initiate without being creepy?Bobs and vagene ass comment | /r/seduction | 27/03/26 02:16 PM |
| 2 | How to develop chill, low-key confidence and charisma, when repetition doesn't work?When you said repetition doesn't help, I was like "oh he must have done like 1000+ cold approaches or gone on 30+ dates or went to dozens of social events". But no, you just did some cold calls. I'm not even going to give you advice. You already know what you did wrong. You tried to go the roundabout, indirect way of developing these traits because you were too scared to just work on it directly by: Talking to women Face to face In a romantic/dating context In high volume You can't get around do… | /r/seduction | 22/03/26 09:13 PM |
| 1 | clever way to deduce who's texting you when you gave out number to multiple people?She's way more likely to gain interest than lose it | /r/seduction | 13/03/26 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Keep getting rejected at the club by her friendNope, it won't work 90+% of the time. A girl (and people in general) will almost always take the side of their friend regardless of the situation or how you try to spin it. You clearly don't do nightgame (or at least not much of it) because absolutely no guy I know who gets laid consistently from nightgame would ever try this (or has tried it and failed). This is theory stuff that sounds good in your head, but doesn't actually work. You most likely just took your limited experience/knowledge on … | /r/seduction | 11/03/26 03:01 AM |
| 0 | Keep getting rejected at the club by her friendExplain to the friend of the girl you're talking to...that she's having a private conversation with a stranger...and then ask the girl for permission to leave her friend...you have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about | /r/seduction | 10/03/26 02:09 PM |
| 2 | Man approached me on the street and asked if I was married… why so forward?It's just considerate and efficient. Efficient because he finds out immediately instead of talking for 5 minutes, then finding out. Considerate because it allows you to say no and you don't have to reject him or interrupt him at some later point. It's somewhat common for girls to be in a relationship, but not tell a guy who is hitting on her because they don't want confrontation. | /r/seduction | 10/03/26 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Dating apps seems to be a lot easier if done rightHow many of these girls did you have sex with? | /r/seduction | 07/03/26 06:42 AM |
| 4 | The abundance mindset is actually real and I didn’t believe it until recentlyThis is what I mean by intellectualizing this stuff too much. If you didn't have at least a very small need for women, why are you on this subreddit? Usually when guys say they have an abundance mentality before actually getting abundance, they are guys who never did super well with women in the first place and have convinced themselves out of the desire. That might not be you specifically, but that's what happens with the majority of guys. I have an entire video dedicated to this exact subject … | /r/seduction | 06/03/26 08:20 PM |
| 29 | The abundance mindset is actually real and I didn’t believe it until recentlyBut you can only REALLY get that abundance mentality while no girls are chasing you AFTER you have already had actual abundance. You don't NEED to constantly maintain the social aspects. You have a period of your life where you have huge abundance, that abundance gets solidified in your brain over time and becomes a part of you, then when you pull back, you still act/think like you have abundance because those pathways/behaviors/mindsets have been ingrained in you. Anyone who says they have an a… | /r/seduction | 06/03/26 01:07 PM |
| 3 | How do I ask a guy I went out with a few times a couple months ago if he wants to hook up?You can say LITERALLY whatever you want 😂 he'll take you up on the offer, don't worry | /r/seduction | 04/03/26 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Approach to girls who say they don't kiss on the first dateStatistically speaking, it's one of the options op gave. Technically you're right, SOME girls don't kiss on the first date no matter what with no exceptions, but that number is so low it's not worth considering over a large data set. | /r/seduction | 02/03/26 02:19 PM |
| 4 | Looks adviceThe gray hair doesn't matter nearly as much as having a decent hairline, low body fat, some extra muscle, clear skin, and some fashion sense. Starting in their late 20's, girls start to care waaaaay less about gray hair. You said in a comment on this post that you're going to focus on weight loss. This is the way to go. The universal thing that every girl finds unattractive is extra fat. Hair style/type (bald/short/long etc), race, fashion choices, personality, body type etc have a lot of subjec… | /r/seduction | 02/03/26 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Approach to girls who say they don't kiss on the first dateAnd yet the OP responded that it's a valid point and a good approach. It's almost like if you know what you're talking about and have a lot of experience, you don't need to know the exact details of certain situations. | /r/seduction | 28/02/26 08:04 PM |
| 2 | Does she like me, or am I delulu?You used the words delulu and sitch. Are you sure you're not a woman? You're thinking too much. Just ask her out if you want to, who cares how much perceived interest she's shown. YOU want to ask her out so do what YOU want. If you overthink as much on a potential date/during texting/during a relationship as you do before even asking her out, she's gonna get turned off very quickly. DO NOT say the "stop playing games" part. She's most likely not playing games and you're just overanalyzing everyt… | /r/seduction | 28/02/26 07:50 AM |
| 23 | Approach to girls who say they don't kiss on the first dateDidn't read the post because the answer is the same for almost all situations. If she's more attractive than the average girl you get, ask her on a second date and try again. If you don't get farther, stop seeing her. If you do get farther, ask her on a third date. If she doesn't hook up (sex) on the third date, stop seeing her. I've had just enough girls not kiss on the first date, then hook up on the second (or third), to see it as worth it to at least go on a second date. Accepting a certain … | /r/seduction | 28/02/26 07:38 AM |
| 4 | Losing weight before dating againThis is just how I personally do things, but I don't even accept clients who are overweight. The conversion rates for overweight guys are so much lower that it's almost not worth it to even start until after they lose the weight. What's likely to happen is the guy gets a disproportionate amount of no numbers or numbers that don't respond and then he gets demotivated and has a bad first impression of approaching in general. I like to start guys off on a good foot so that all of their first refere… | /r/seduction | 27/02/26 03:19 PM |
| 17 | The Most Dangerous Mindset I See as a Men’s Dating Coach"people believe it’s the incels that are the most miserable because they don’t date any women but oftentimes it’s not the case because they have sort of convinced themselves that is just not possible for them to date women that they sort of remove it from their reality." Exactly. And some guys who have given up (or even guys who are in a relationship but the girl just sucks and they have settled) will go so far as to get smug and condescending and ask why you're insecure and thinking about it so… | /r/seduction | 27/02/26 10:41 AM |
| 1 | girl found out i was hooking up with someone else. acting weird now.No problem 💪 | /r/seduction | 18/02/26 02:59 PM |
| -4 | girl found out i was hooking up with someone else. acting weird now.Man, you REALLY don't get it 😂 had to check your profile to make sure you weren't a woman with the emotional/shaming language you were using | /r/seduction | 18/02/26 02:27 PM |
| 5 | girl found out i was hooking up with someone else. acting weird now.it just doesnt make sense Welcome to women Ok but the real answer is that women almost never say what they actually mean. She had feelings (however big or small) for you and agreed to the FWB/seeing other people thing when you asked just to keep you happy and come across as a cool/nonchalant girl so you wouldn't see her as difficult and potentially not want to keep seeing her. A common tactic that women use to get into a relationship is to start off as FWB and then slowly start doing relationshi… | /r/seduction | 18/02/26 02:23 PM |
| 3 | how to meet girls in 2026 without appsYou think the girl is gonna pull out a gun or something? | /r/seduction | 14/02/26 02:16 PM |
| 1 | How are average looking men supposed to meet women?You're not stuck, you're making excuses and actively choosing to not do anything outside of your comfort zone. You listed like 5 things you COULD do and then came up with a reason for why you "can't". You're not getting anywhere with that mindset. You're going to keep going in circles your whole life until you start doing things you aren't comfortable with and it will be entirely your own fault. | /r/seduction | 11/02/26 12:23 AM |
| 1 | F*CK Your ExcusesI noticed you didn't actually list any of your "valid reasons". My prediction is you'll say something like "I don't need to justify myself to you" to avoid anyone calling out your reasons as excuses. Or you'll give one reason that is an exaggerated, worst case scenario, 1 in a million example and think that's valid. Or just not respond because I just took the two things you were going to do. | /r/seduction | 27/01/26 07:22 AM |
| 3 | A lot of attractive guys go home by themselves..Ok, you're just choosing to not understand what I'm saying or acknowledge any nuance from a position that's not your own. Have a good one. | /r/seduction | 19/01/26 07:53 AM |
| 3 | A lot of attractive guys go home by themselves..The difference is that with shooting baskets, the variables would be mostly the same every time. There wouldn't be random times where the basket is smaller, or in a different position, or disappears halfway through the shot, or has different random obstacles you have to throw around. "Randomly talking to women with no attempt to get better " No one said the numbers game procludes you from attempting to get better. The best analogy for approach is poker. Yes there is skill involved, but there are… | /r/seduction | 19/01/26 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Okay 100 approaches to learn is cool. But how do you guys deal with the fear of being labelled as creepy or guy who tries to hit on every girl?You're not supposed to mass approach in places where you see people often. Cold approach is a way to talk to women in situations where it's otherwise not feasible or where there are no lasting social consequences. Gym and library are places you go all the time AND can have lasting social consequences. That's not to say you can't do any approaches, but you want to limit them. At a gym especially, you want to go more the long-term / social circle route where you start a couple conversations with a… | /r/seduction | 19/01/26 07:01 AM |
| 4 | Ratio of successful cold approachesReceptive is too vague a metric to use. I've had super "receptive" girls not give out their number, or give their number then not respond, and I've also had girls who didn't seem interested, or who said they had to go but gave me their number real quick, that ended up coming on dates. It's a good rule of thumb to just not try and guess what the girls interest level or emotional state is and use it to actually make decisions. A better metric is how many numbers you get, regardless of "receptivity… | /r/seduction | 09/01/26 01:27 AM |
| 5 | All i think about is dating and it's sucks ,"Should I stop trying?" If you've been doing this for 2 years and still have no results, you're not actually trying. Have you cold approached hundreds or at the bare minimum dozens of girls? Even just one girl a day (and even that is considered bottom of the barrel laziness) you should have talked to over 700 girls in 2 years. Have you tried gaining muscle? In 2 years you could have easily gained 20 lb of muscle. Do you dress better? In 2 years you could have researched fashion trends and saved … | /r/seduction | 19/12/25 08:16 PM |
| 2 | How do I attain casual sex with girls without trying to setup dates?As I thought, you don't know what you're talking about. Spouting vague/ generic advice and not able to answer exact details about anything when asked. And then I saw one of your other comments where you said you can have close to a 100% success rate on approaching, now I know for sure that you're lying. | /r/seduction | 16/12/25 04:50 AM |
| 0 | How do I attain casual sex with girls without trying to setup dates?Yeah I know what to do, I was specifically asking him because it sounds like he's bullshitting. He was using extremely vague / generic / cliche advice and that's usually an indicator that the person doesn't know what they're talking about. He didn't respond to exact questions so he basically confirmed my suspicion. | /r/seduction | 16/12/25 04:47 AM |
| 2 | My friend dates the girl I approachedGame's gone | /r/seduction | 14/12/25 05:13 PM |
| 2 | My friend dates the girl I approachedDude, how immature can you be? You did zero work in setting up the date, you were rude to your friend by having him do everything for you, then when he hangs out with a girl that HE'S been talking to, you get angry? You are wrong in every single way it's possible to be wrong in this situation. You were a coward, you were lazy, and you were an asshole to your friend. I really hope you haven't said anything angry/accusatory at him yet. You need to do some self reflection and think about what ACTUA… | /r/seduction | 14/12/25 05:12 PM |
| 3 | Am I just fooling and lying to myself with not well planned cold approaches?That's not a low success rate, 4 is just an extremely low number of approaches. 4 is how many you should do in one day, not 2 weeks. Here's my average numbers: 100 approaches 30-35 numbers 4-7 dates 1-4 lays This is the general range most guys have with cold approach. | /r/seduction | 12/12/25 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Struggling to close after making out at clubsFor right now, don't worry about "building towards a pull", just go for the pull. You're overthinking. The girls are already into you. You can say any number of things: "Let's head out" "You want to head out?" "I'm calling an Uber" "You have all your stuff?". After she responds, say "alright let's go". If she asks where you're going say "my place" or "I called an Uber" You're trying to avoid rejection instead of just addressing things head on. You would be surprised at what you can say/how direc… | /r/seduction | 10/12/25 10:47 AM |
| 3 | Smallest step to take to start to approach?Hey man, I actually am in the process of making an approach anxiety program completely free on YouTube. I've already uploaded some of it and I'm uploading more every day. Feel free to check it out here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm0QxcpUSlv0LsZpmO-PPd3VCEMXWviA7&si=GR8KoMVgea1D0Neo | /r/seduction | 29/11/25 05:00 PM |
| 4 | 💩 How To Pass Every S*** Test In Existence (not click bait)Exactly, that's how I feel about most game theory in general. There's some good things to take away, but the majority of it just ends up making guys more weird and self-conscious. | /r/seduction | 29/11/25 04:22 AM |
| -10 | 💩 How To Pass Every S*** Test In Existence (not click bait)S*** test = shit test - its where a girl says or does something to see how you react. | /r/seduction | 28/11/25 04:15 PM |
| 0 | How do I attain casual sex with girls without trying to setup dates?Agreed, I've done thousands of approaches, 500 plus dates, and 250 Plus lays so I have a good amount of personal experience. I was just trying to understand what his issue was to get a wider knowledge base in case I encounter this in my coaching. | /r/seduction | 20/11/25 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Change my view: leading women on is the most effective way to be a man who sleeps around.Gotcha, can't really ascertain anything from that. I've done thousands of approaches, gone on hundreds of dates, and coached dozens of guys and have never encountered someone who had this problem so consistently so I was just trying to figure out the reason so I had a wider knowledge base. If you found something that works for you that's all that matters though. | /r/seduction | 20/11/25 03:51 AM |
| 1 | How do I attain casual sex with girls without trying to setup dates?Hey thanks for the reply, a lot of people don't go out of their way to actually help other people. I actually wasn't asking to get advice, I was asking to ascertain why he's having this problem in the first place so I could help. I've done thousands of approaches, had hundreds of dates, coached dozens of guys, and neither I nor a single person I've encountered has ever had this problem to such a degree that the only way they could hook up was to lead the girl on like that, so I'm just trying to … | /r/seduction | 20/11/25 03:49 AM |
| 2 | How do I attain casual sex with girls without trying to setup dates?I'm not asking for advice, I'm asking him to confirm what he's saying. He gave extremely generic advice, the type of advice that people make up when they don't have any experience. | /r/seduction | 20/11/25 03:46 AM |
| 3 | Change my view: leading women on is the most effective way to be a man who sleeps around.How does the convo even come up? And what do you say? And what percentage of dates does this happen? Also, is that the ONLY thing you changed? Because you're post makes it sound like you weren't getting anything before, and then you changed one single thing (started saying you're looking for long term) and then all the sudden you started hooking up. That just doesn't make sense. If a guy isn't getting laid, there is no way that simply him switching to sing he's looking for something long-term wo… | /r/seduction | 19/11/25 02:21 PM |
| 2 | How do I attain casual sex with girls without trying to setup dates?Do you have any specifics? Online or cold approach? What would the text convo be like? What percentage of girls would you lose from insisting on not having a date? How did you do things when she was back at your place? | /r/seduction | 11/11/25 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Benefits of being a short manI'll screenshot this and send it to him and see if he'd be interested. | /r/seduction | 11/11/25 03:45 AM |
| 2 | Benefits of being a short manI can't really give exact percentages because there's so many other factors, but I have coached seven guys under 5'7". I actually currently have an Asian client who is 5'4" and he's up to 32 lays right now. He has a good physique, tattoos, edgy style etc. If you're under 5'7", it's practically required that you go to the gym and build muscle and have really good style and grooming. A guy who is short and also not muscular, doesn't dress/groom himself well, and doesn't develop strong frame and co… | /r/seduction | 10/11/25 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Benefits of being a short man...ok? | /r/seduction | 10/11/25 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Benefits of being a short manHe's saying short guys have to develop a personality and are less threatening. Yes but there's plenty of tall guys who develop a personality as well. Advantage is something that, everything else being equal, you would get a better result. If everything else was equal, and one guy was shorter, he would not get better results. As far as less threatening, that's true, but it's also counteracted by the fact that they're also seen as less powerful / intimidating if they don't have other things going … | /r/seduction | 10/11/25 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Benefits of being a short manHow do you navigate this with the people you coach? I get them to improve in a whole bunch of other ways to compensate for their height. Gain muscle, dress edgy/cool, get top-tier frame/confidence. These can compensate for height to a great degree. Also, I'm a big proponent of acceptance as part of building frame/confidence. There ARE going to be girls who rule you out just because of height, AND THAT'S OK! There are plenty of girls who won't. Not accepting your height, in my experience with cli… | /r/seduction | 10/11/25 07:05 PM |
| 1 | I got an Instagram with a direct cold approach for the first time!Gotcha, your IG must be cool/engaging enough to work for you. Most guys have an IG that doesn't portray them as interesting/attractive so I usually recommend grabbing a number instead. | /r/seduction | 10/11/25 04:50 AM |
| 1 | I got an Instagram with a direct cold approach for the first time!How many dates have you gotten from numbers vs IG? | /r/seduction | 10/11/25 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Benefits of being a short manDidn't realize there was a team, but yes, in general there are very close to zero benefits from being short. I'm not saying it's not possible for short dudes to have a good dating life (I've coached several), I'm just saying it's not a benefit. A person can still work hard, be motivated, and get results without operating under the false pretense that it's an advantage. | /r/seduction | 10/11/25 03:31 AM |
| 1 | I got an Instagram with a direct cold approach for the first time!Actual dates or just responses? The only people I've ever known who get better results from social media are guys who have really good instagrams. | /r/seduction | 10/11/25 03:28 AM |
| 2 | Benefits of being a short manThe truth is always better. I've coached several guys under 5 foot 7 and I never tell them anything that's not true. In the long run, you'll get worse results if you are operating with incorrect data. | /r/seduction | 10/11/25 03:26 AM |
| -3 | Benefits of being a short manEh, everything except the last one are kind of cope-y. And even the last one is only partially true. "This brings surprising benefits; such as women feeling safer around you." This is not true. Women in general feel safer around taller guys because taller guys are more likely to be able to protect them. Also, girl don't really get scared in general from an approach, no matter how tall or what race the guy is. I've coached guys since 6 ft and guys below 5'7", and both of them hardly ever get girl… | /r/seduction | 08/11/25 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Realistic Expectations From Cold ApproachIt looks like he's a teenager based on his profile pic, so maybe he's just in his "angry at the world" phase, but it is honestly slightly disturbing. This new generation seems to be more angry and depressed and hopeless than when I was growing up. Or maybe it's the same, but they just have access to social media where everything is exaggerated. | /r/seduction | 08/11/25 03:31 AM |
| 3 | I got an Instagram with a direct cold approach for the first time!That's awesome dude, one thing though is you should always try to go for the number unless you have an absolutely top tier instagram. If you get her instagram, she'll just lump you in with all the other follow requests she has and you'll just be seen as another random follower she has. It's a common tactic for girls to give out an Instagram if they don't actually plan on talking to the guy because it's easy to ignore. Giving you her number means that there's an actual chance that she's intereste… | /r/seduction | 07/11/25 12:31 AM |
| 2 | Realistic Expectations From Cold Approach💪 | /r/seduction | 04/11/25 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Realistic Expectations From Cold Approach20 all together or each girl? | /r/seduction | 04/11/25 04:45 AM |
| 2 | Realistic Expectations From Cold ApproachI honestly never really kept track of my night game stats. By the time I was doing well at night game consistently, I was already fairly good overall so I just focused on doing what I knew was best. If the conversion rates were higher or lower, it wasn't enough for me to consciously notice. I personally don't focus on numbers at all anymore. I'm more or less maxed out or close to maxed out on what I can get from cold approach so I just focus on the process. | /r/seduction | 04/11/25 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Realistic Expectations From Cold Approach🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 | /r/seduction | 04/11/25 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Realistic Expectations From Cold Approach😂 | /r/seduction | 03/11/25 03:58 PM |
| 3 | Realistic Expectations From Cold ApproachDamn, you're just scared of the whole world, aren't you? 🤣 If you take off the headphones and actually venture outside, it's not that bad. I promise. | /r/seduction | 01/11/25 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Why it is hard for short guys in datingYou can overcome it if you work hard. I've coached 7 guys under 5'7" (shortest one being 5'2") and you can definitely still have a good dating life if you improve yourself. Are you in good shape? Do you make good money? Are you funny or confident? Do you have good social skills? If you don't have any of those, being short is not your main problem. | /r/seduction | 30/10/25 09:19 PM |
| 2 | Fuck dating apps we gotta learn cold approaches and build confidenceYou definitely haven't actually cold approached much. You just listed all the standard misconceptions that everyone who hasn't actually done it a lot has about it. You see things online and you theorize and extrapolate and preemptively come up with all these problems and then convince yourself it's not a good idea. The only one I agree with you on is approaching on a college campus if you go to school there. College is more about social circle, but you can still cold approach girls to become fri… | /r/seduction | 25/10/25 01:32 AM |
| 2 | Why women pull away even when things are ‘going well’— and how to react when it happensThere's so many things it could be. The most likely is that the relationship had just run its course. She got what she wanted over the course of those three dates and then she was done. There's other guys she's attracted to, she's single, that's it. This is completely normal. The majority of women will usually stick around for 1 to 3 hookups and be done. For me personally, only about a quarter to a third of the girls I hook up with will stay past three hookups. She either has to be disproportion… | /r/seduction | 22/10/25 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Men’s careerHow many times has this happened exactly? How did you meet them? What was the convo leading up to you saying you're a barber? Did they straight up ghost after you told them you're a barber? It's extremely rare for a woman to reject a guy purely because of his job. If you are funny, confident, have good social skills, are in good shape, dress and groom yourself well etc, the very large majority of women are not going to all of the sudden discount all that because of your job. | /r/seduction | 20/10/25 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Drop your best group openers for daygameFeel free | /r/seduction | 19/10/25 08:49 PM |
| 0 | Guys who went from anxious to players, what book/course helped you the most?There isn't one. You have to put up with the hard work and the anxiety of actually approaching and getting rejected for long periods of time, combined with legitimate self-improvement, in order to get better. People don't like to legitimately change and don't want to work so they do all this research and read books because they think it will give them a shortcut. There is no shortcut. If anything, most of these books on game will just make you weird and take you further away from your goal. You … | /r/seduction | 19/10/25 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Drop your best group openers for daygameThe Game is very outdated and most of those techniques really only apply to night game, not day game. Completely different dynamic in both of those. They honestly aren't even really that good for night game. During day game, if a friend is cock blocking you, you have to just take it and let them leave. Negging (which I don't do personally) is only some what okay during night game because people are drinking and it's very high energy and you can joke around, but doing it during the day is just we… | /r/seduction | 19/10/25 06:20 PM |
| 9 | My RosterI don't get it. Are you sleeping with them? If not, nothing really matters. These are just three random girls you know. | /r/seduction | 19/10/25 02:34 AM |
| 2 | Drop your best group openers for daygameYou go up to the girl you're attracted to and open just like you would if she was by herself. I've opened hundreds and hundreds of groups and guys really make it a lot more complicated than it needs to be. You don't need to do anything special, just talk to the girl as if she was by herself. Obviously if her friends talk to you, you can acknowledge them and say something back, but you don't need to entertain the friends. For night game it's different, but for day game, literally just treat it li… | /r/seduction | 19/10/25 01:41 AM |
| 1 | I realized something about more attractive women recently. Huge mindset shift after reviewing my own approaches.In a few days you generated multiple dates and pulls from girls you previously couldn't get? How many approaches are you doing per day? Did all those girls agree to same day or next day dates? What actual behavioral change did this realization spark in you that drastically improved your results? I'm assuming you don't work or go to school since you had the time to do this many approaches and dates as well. | /r/seduction | 15/10/25 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Chunk It Down: How To Get Better At DatingI like to think so | /r/seduction | 01/10/24 08:59 PM |
| 3 | 📺 Video Response To "Definitive List of IOI's"I absolutely promise that that is not what 90+% of guys use them for. If anything it discourages action because a lot of guys won't make a move until they have received enough IOI's to a high enough degree and that degree is always one more than whatever they have. The "idea" and what actually happens in real life are two different things. | /r/seduction | 19/09/24 04:31 AM |
| 25 | Do you just approach beautiful looking women? If so, what has been your results!?If BEAUTIFUL (8.5+) women are approaching you, AND you actually hook up with them, you are either very physically attractive (8+) OR have high status in the place you are getting approached. If it's the first, you will absolutely slay with cold approach as long as you can just be a normal person and escalate when needed. If it's the second and it's mostly the status and you are at least just above average-looking (7+) then you will do really well with cold approach as long as you can make them a… | /r/seduction | 19/09/24 02:44 AM |
| 0 | 📺 Video Response To "Definitive List of IOI's"Damn speech to text | /r/seduction | 19/09/24 01:11 AM |
| 0 | 📺 Video Response To "Definitive List of IOI's"God bless you, my child | /r/seduction | 19/09/24 12:53 AM |
| 2 | Practice Bantering with a Chatbot Girl that Could Lose InterestEven someone social and confident can only make time to go out and approach women at most twice a week. By the way this is 100% not true | /r/seduction | 13/08/24 03:24 PM |
| 3 | Practice Bantering with a Chatbot Girl that Could Lose InterestI promise this will help almost a 0% with in person interactions. It doesn't take into account vocal tone, body language, your own confidence in person, real life timing as opposed to being able to take your time responding, etc. it might possibly help a little with texting. | /r/seduction | 13/08/24 04:40 AM |
| 2 | Got ghosted after getting her phone number and exchanging a few innocent textsThe real answer is we can never know because it's such a small data set. There's always a little bit of randomness associated with all this. But one thing that stands out to me is the "innocent texts". If she asked if you're single, and also texted you right away, why did you not try to set up a date extremely quickly? She probably just saw you as nervous / scared / a guy who doesn't take action and became uninterested. | /r/seduction | 13/08/24 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Should i cold approach if i am overweight?No, you won't meet the minimum looks threshold of the large majority of girls. That will cause you to get rejected a disproportionate amount. If you're new to approaching, this will be very demoralizing and might turn you off from approaching all together. Also you won't get enough numbers and dates to get that much practice/experience. Looks is the first filter you have to pass through. Without meeting the looks threshold, you won't even get a chance to display your other good traits. You could… | /r/seduction | 13/08/24 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Best way to contact a girl you haven't talked to in a yea?"Hey what have you been up to?" Have a couple back and forths, ask what she has going on that week/weekend, ask on date. | /r/seduction | 13/08/24 12:53 AM |
| 3 | Practice Bantering with a Chatbot Girl that Could Lose InterestJesus, guys will do literally anything except actually go out and talk to girls in person. | /r/seduction | 13/08/24 12:51 AM |
| 3 | Best group number of guys to go with?If you're actually trying to get laid, and not just have a "good night" (whatever that means), go out by yourself or with only one other guy. The logistics of more than that just becomes too cumbersome. | /r/seduction | 28/07/24 07:27 PM |
| 15 | How do you guys deal with neediness?joking about moving in with her(just a joke), Don't lie to yourself. You probably said it in a joking tone but deep down you're really doing it to test her reaction to see how invested she was or if she would reciprocate. started joking about trips together Again not a joke. It was done out of neediness. I've had several guys say that they were only saying certain things as a joke but really it was out of ego or insecurity. It's basically a form of passive aggressiveness. went over to her place … | /r/seduction | 28/07/24 07:24 PM |
| 1 | How do you keep your inner game after so many rejections?I am average at best. Get in the gym and improve your style/grooming sometimes get the worst rejections ever. Like face of disgust Sometimes? So then what's the big deal? It's not most of the time. Everyone gets these. I usually try daygame model in nightclubs Strategies for day and night are different. Night is for pulling, not numbers. So far tho, I haven't been able to land a date with a girl who is definitely my type Well yeah, you don't less than 40 total approaches day and night combined. … | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 07:19 PM |
| 2 | As a 5'9 guy what are some good flirty replies I can use against girls?Here's what you really want to hear: "You're right bro nothing at all is possible and you are completely doomed in dating. You are correct on everything you said." | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 06:50 PM |
| 4 | As a 5'9 guy what are some good flirty replies I can use against girls?There's absolutely no way girls are making fun of you for your height at 5'9". This sounds like you just being insecure and future projecting that girls are going to say something about it. I think you've been consuming too much content online and not actually talking to a lot of girls. | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 06:48 PM |
| 2 | What are some seductive “come over” texts?If they are already in your rotation you don't really need to do all this extra s***. They already like you. Some self-reflection might be necessary on why you feel the need to continue to prove yourself and re convince girls that already like you. | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 06:45 PM |
| 5 | The worst part about rejectionAgreed, being able to deal with uncertainty and still push through is extremely important in this. | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 06:43 PM |
| 1 | 🙋 Step-by-Step: How To Get Better At ApproachingAgreed, although there is one exercise that I do sometimes before that game that I use my phone for. Use one of the video chat apps that allows you to quickly cycle through people and just let loose and talk to a whole bunch of people on there. Has the benefit of talking to a wide range of people in different situations and you can be a lot more open and expressive because it's not face to face rejection. | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 06:41 PM |
| 2 | 🙋 Step-by-Step: How To Get Better At ApproachingI'll have the next part out by the end of the week 👍 | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 04:49 PM |
| 1 | 🙋 Step-by-Step: How To Get Better At ApproachingThanks man 🙏 | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 02:54 PM |
| 1 | 🙋 Step-by-Step: How To Get Better At ApproachingNp bro 💪 | /r/seduction | 24/07/24 02:31 PM |
| 1 | 🙋 Step-by-Step: How To Get Better At ApproachingThanks 🙏 | /r/seduction | 23/07/24 09:14 PM |
| 1 | 🙋 Step-by-Step: How To Get Better At ApproachingSame here, day game is a cakewalk, but night game I still need to have a little warm up period beforehand. | /r/seduction | 23/07/24 07:31 PM |
| 2 | 🙋 Step-by-Step: How To Get Better At ApproachingThis is good advice, only thing I would say about it is that a lot of guys go too heavy on this kind of stuff and think that they can get to a point where approaching won't be hard. Visualization and other things like this can make starting out approaching a little easier, but that will always be a degree of difficulty and anxiety associated with it when you're first starting. | /r/seduction | 23/07/24 06:44 PM |
| 4 | 🙋 Step-by-Step: How To Get Better At ApproachingDamn the formatting got messed up a little bit when I listed out the exercises. I would go back and fix it but every time I edit posts too quickly, it gets flagged and deleted. Will fix the formatting later. | /r/seduction | 23/07/24 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Daygame Approach Format Explained + 5 ApproachesHere's my average stats: 100 approaches 30-35 numbers 6 dates 3 lays Time invested per lay: 3-3.5 hours (not including date) Also one thing to note is that about half my approaches are not within the context of an approach session. I am able to just do approaches while I'm out doing stuff for my normal day. Once you can get to the point where you can do high approach volume without getting emotionally exhausted, and also don't waste time in between sets or trying to hype yourself up, and can do … | /r/seduction | 19/07/24 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Daygame Approach Format Explained + 5 ApproachesCue some variation of "I don't have time to go into it" or "I don't have to explain myself" excuse. | /r/seduction | 19/07/24 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Daygame Approach Format Explained + 5 Approachesyour choosing to not adress Ok I'll address it right now. What exactly do you mean by more rewarding? Attractiveness of the girls? The quality or length of the relationship? How much the person enjoys the process? And when you say more efficient, do you mean in terms of sheer number of leads? Or quality of the leads? And I'm assuming you have large data samples you've personally gathered from bars and online and cold approach to be able to draw these conclusions right? | /r/seduction | 19/07/24 09:41 PM |
| 2 | Daygame Approach Format Explained + 5 ApproachesYou can just say you're scared to approach | /r/seduction | 19/07/24 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Daygame Approach Format Explained + 5 ApproachesYeah I had the wrong earbuds in. I usually use my wired ones that have a microphone on the cord, this one I had my wireless ones so it used my phone's audio input. Will remember to use the wired ones next time. | /r/seduction | 18/07/24 06:03 PM |
| 1 | At what point can you actually be your genuine self in a relationship?I don't understand your response at all, and now I don't even understand your original question either, because you said these: where you dont have to put on an act Is it possible to ever truly be your 100% true care free self when i start being my genuine self and carefree But then you also said this: Im all me in my dates Which contradict each other. So are you yourself or not yourself? | /r/seduction | 18/07/24 03:02 PM |
| 52 | At what point can you actually be your genuine self in a relationship?The problem isn't when you can start being your genuine self. The problem is that your genuine self isn't actually attractive and you're not all the things you portray at the beginning. The only way to fully fix this problem is to actually be the person that you portray at the beginning. | /r/seduction | 18/07/24 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Daygame Approach Format Explained + 5 ApproachesGlad to hear it. Yeah actually if you look at the other videos on my channel, I have plenty of successful approaches that result in numbers. I was mostly posting this to show that strings of rejections happen sometimes. | /r/seduction | 18/07/24 03:03 AM |
| 1 | 👨💻 Good Results Online, But Struggle With Cold ApproachYeah Vibe is a real nebulous term but it definitely is a thing. I've had multiple clients who are actually able to approach and have conversations and ask for the number, but still weren't getting great results because of little things they were doing or not doing that they weren't aware of. Sometimes you just need a third party to objectively look at things and also have the experience to know what to look for. | /r/seduction | 08/06/24 07:58 PM |
| 1 | 👨💻 Good Results Online, But Struggle With Cold ApproachThe benefits of online are that if you really really optimize your process, it's more efficient. But if you want a little bit higher quality, both in looks and personality, cold approach is where it's at. I haven't met a single person who does both cold approach and online who thinks online is better overall. A lot of guys who start out with online and then supplement with cold approach eventually reverse it and they use primarily cold approach and supplement with online. If a person is satisfie… | /r/seduction | 08/06/24 07:56 PM |
| 1 | ⁉️ What If She Says..."yeah" | /r/seduction | 06/06/24 03:35 PM |
| 3 | Loners: Prioritize making female friends over trying to pull girlsGlad I'm not the only one that notices it. One of the absolute worst people in this sub. | /r/seduction | 13/05/24 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Conquering Life's Challenges and the Mystery of Connectionwhere I express that I don't just want to be friends but that I am open for more? Did you ever escalate in any way? Ask for the number, little touches, try to pull, go for a kiss, suggest the date, anything? | /r/seduction | 18/04/24 06:35 PM |
| 2 | 🚫 Stop Trying To Be Confident (try these instead)it's just an information overload. I don't really consider it information overload, I'm just going in-depth and covering possible questions. I base some of my posts on consistent questions from clients and things that people have messaged me about. Most of the points in my posts have been brought up at least once someone who messaged me. I say focus on competence. It is, after all; the source of confidence. I would say it's more like 70% of confidence. There's plenty of people who are competent … | /r/seduction | 14/04/24 11:22 PM |
| 1 | 🚫 Stop Trying To Be Confident (try these instead)I just ignore ROBYoutube's comments and posts now. All he does is moral grandstanding, bragging, gives condescending "advice" and just in general brings a huge amount of negativity. He never engages in good faith arguments. | /r/seduction | 14/04/24 11:13 PM |
| 1 | 🚫 Stop Trying To Be Confident (try these instead)Thanks 🙏 | /r/seduction | 14/04/24 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Curious about Female Perspective: Do Women Find Virgin Men Attractive or Desire Them Sexually?Taking a figure of speech literally. Low effort argument. | /r/seduction | 10/04/24 01:05 AM |
| 6 | Curious about Female Perspective: Do Women Find Virgin Men Attractive or Desire Them Sexually?What exactly makes you an expert? Dating coach with over 250 lays, over 700 dates, and just under 10k cold approaches. As defined in Oxford English Dictionary - "a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area." Have you talked to every woman Logical fallacy. It's impossible for someone to have every single possible data point with regards to a certain subject. Although if you want to use this as your standard, that implies that the person who has mo… | /r/seduction | 10/04/24 01:04 AM |
| 6 | Curious about Female Perspective: Do Women Find Virgin Men Attractive or Desire Them Sexually?Then there it is I'm not a dog either, but I still know they bark. Last date I was on she felt a little uncomfortable that I had been with "more than 3" (im in my 20s), definitely got the vibe that she was looking for an equal in that respect, someone that wouldn't find her lack of experience a turnoff Yes exceptions exist everywhere. Her being insecure about something doesn't correlate with what she's attracted to, which is what my comment was about. I'm by no means an expert Ok, I am. the whol… | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Curious about Female Perspective: Do Women Find Virgin Men Attractive or Desire Them Sexually?Nope | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Curious about Female Perspective: Do Women Find Virgin Men Attractive or Desire Them Sexually?Correct. Do you have a counter point with that statement? | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 10:15 PM |
| 10 | is the bro code valid in 2024?You're asking if you should be respectful to your FRIEND? Yes. He's your friend. You don't seem to be one to him though. That's not even bro code, that's just normal consideration for a FRIEND. And you didn't even do anything with the girl before, you only wanted her. You wanted her, you didn't do anything, he did something, and now you're trying to call dibs. If I was your friend and I saw you posted this, I'd immediately cut you off. I'm not sure how this could even be an uncertainty in your m… | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 09:37 PM |
| 223 | Curious about Female Perspective: Do Women Find Virgin Men Attractive or Desire Them Sexually?No it's the complete opposite. It's usually seen as unattractive. Lack of experience so you're more likely to be awkward and not able to please her. Also it makes them assume there's something wrong with you that you couldn't get a girl before. Absolutely do not mention that you're a virgin. If they ask, lie. She most likely has a control/power/insecurity/ego issue and likes to be the one in charge, that's extremely rare though. A girl preferring a virgin would be like a guy preferring a woman w… | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 08:48 PM |
| 2 | 🚫 Stop Trying To Be Confident (try these instead)You can be confident only about something you can control. 100% agree, that's why I always try to only make recommendations that are actions that the person has control over. | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 08:44 PM |
| 3 | 🚫 Stop Trying To Be Confident (try these instead)🤭 | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 07:51 PM |
| 2 | How good is the dating world for Indian Brown guys in California (or the United States in general)6 ft is not average. That's a little over 2 inches above the average male height in America, which puts you roughly top 15-20% (aka an 8 in height). Also just being not overweight puts you at at least a 6 in terms of body. And if you're ACTUALLY athletic looking (not just skinny / scrawny and saying athletic as a cope like most guys do) you're at least a seven in terms of body. As far as face, if you have an athletic body and at least the outline of abs, your body fat percentage is probably low … | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Am I massively over thinking this.Damn I didn't read this comment until after I posted mine. I said pretty much the exact same thing 😂 | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 03:38 PM |
| 14 | Am I massively over thinking this.extremely quickly in it got to a point where the woman was so addicted to me that they constantly were reaching out to me Ego check time. They weren't addicted to you. They were anxious/insecure and needed to constantly check in to soothe themselves. Outside of that, she seems like a very normal, emotionally healthy girl. I get where you're coming from. Most people don't have healthy relationship habits and aren't emotionally centered, so it's weird when you find a person like this, but they are… | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 03:36 PM |
| 2 | 🚫 Stop Trying To Be Confident (try these instead)😉 | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 02:53 PM |
| 11 | 🚫 Stop Trying To Be Confident (try these instead)A pull is asking a girl back to your place. | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 01:13 AM |
| 5 | 🚫 Stop Trying To Be Confident (try these instead)😂 | /r/seduction | 09/04/24 01:11 AM |
| 2 | Tips for number-closingI think you misinterpreted my point. The point of getting contact info is to set up a date, and then the point of the date is to get laid/relationship/etc. So what I'm saying is, has doing things the way you described in the post gotten you noticeably more hookups over a consistent period of time then a previous way you did it? And if it did, what was the previous way you did it? My point is that your post title is that this is a tip for number closing. Tip meaning something that improve results… | /r/seduction | 05/04/24 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Tips for number-closingMy point is that you don't know that if "comes off better" and you don't know that it increases the amount of dates you get overall so this isn't really useful. | /r/seduction | 05/04/24 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Tips for number-closingHave you split tested this over a large number of approaches compared to other methods? Is there a reason you don't just have her say the number and you add it yourself? | /r/seduction | 05/04/24 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Cold Approach Session 2Thanks bro 😎 | /r/seduction | 04/04/24 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Cold Approach Session 2Thanks man, appreciate it 🙏 Is the rate of fucks and shits in your language an intentional rapport thing or is it just how you talk? That's just how I talk. I found out later from several girls that they actually like it (one girl said she liked the way I said "fuck" specifically). Also apparently from a psychology/human interaction standpoint, things like swearing and talking about semi-socially unacceptable subjects allows people to let their guard down and also makes them trust you more. I do… | /r/seduction | 04/04/24 05:41 PM |
| 10 | Mastering Coffee Dates ☕️3 things that will improve your conversion rates: 1) don't do coffee dates anymore, do drink dates at night/evening. Completely different tone and setting. I've hooked up from coffee dates on the first date, but drink dates just inherently have a higher conversion rate. 2) you have to actually go for the pull every single time. 3) always have the date close to your place. Logistics are very important in a successful pull. | /r/seduction | 04/04/24 02:15 PM |
| 6 | Day Game Peak hours1-4pm Saturdays and Sundays You can also go to Google maps and make a list of all the malls, parks, retail stores, etc and you can actually check the peak times for each of those places and then make a schedule of when you want to go to those places and approach. | /r/seduction | 03/04/24 12:53 AM |
| 1 | In field content creators?I have approach videos on my subreddit. ACTUAL approach sessions not cherry picking the best ones. | /r/seduction | 27/03/24 05:59 AM |
| 3 | When it comes to your “style” (beard, haircut, style), do you go with what “objectively” looks better, or what “feels” better?You can pick whatever style you want, but you still have to look above average with it and realize you'll filter out and filter in different girls depending on what you pick. It's good to experiment. Sometimes something doesn't feel right at first, but you eventually grow into it and it can even let you express different parts of your personality he weren't aware of. | /r/seduction | 27/03/24 02:23 AM |
| 2 | Anyone else have 0 luck at nightgame?I'm gonna make a post at some point going over the finer details of escalating in Nightgame. Until then, I have a whole bunch of posts going over a lot of other aspects of game. | /r/seduction | 27/03/24 12:30 AM |
| 6 | Anyone else have 0 luck at nightgame?You are either hardly approaching, hardly escalating, or are disproportionately unconfident/weird/socially awkward. Edit - or disproportionately unattractive. I have literally not a single time met a guy who looked good, could approach consistently, escalate consistently, and has normal social skills not get laid. You are below average with at least one of these things. | /r/seduction | 25/03/24 07:02 AM |
| 2 | Dating 7’s and 8’s vs 9’s and 10’sSuper insecure mindset. Let's completely change our personality for each specific girl. You either have the traits they want or you don't. That's it. | /r/seduction | 25/03/24 06:59 AM |
| 1 | Are there any exciting women left in the world these new generation of women are something for sure lolDo you have any of these qualities? | /r/seduction | 25/03/24 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Approaching the Local Barista???Np 💪 | /r/seduction | 25/03/24 05:04 AM |
| 4 | Approaching the Local Barista???I only approach girls at places that I don't frequent on a regular basis. The likelihood of rejection, no matter where you approach the girl, is high. Or even if she gives you her number, the likelihood she'll actually come out on a date is even lower. And then the likelihood you'll hook up with her is even lower. Just purely statistically speaking, it doesn't make sense to approach when there could be social circle type ramifications. For instance, what if you guys hook up and then at some poin… | /r/seduction | 24/03/24 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Let’s hear some going same night lay success storiesYeah how my friends did it was they would just offer a small bit at the club to each girl, and then just be like, yeah I'm having a party at my place later. And then just get their number and invite them back. They would have like six to eight girls show up and sometimes they would bring friends and the the ratio would be like double as many girls as guys so easy pickings. I've never done this. This is just what they told me they do and what I saw first hand. | /r/seduction | 23/03/24 06:04 PM |
| 3 | Let’s hear some going same night lay success storiesYou literally just go up to girls and offer them coke. Drug game is a thing. Invite a bunch of girls to an after party that will have drugs, and at the end of the night, you'll have a bunch of girls at your place which will give you social proof and at least one of those girls will hook up with you. I knew multiple guys in Austin when I lived there that would get laid all the time from this. | /r/seduction | 23/03/24 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Let’s hear some going same night lay success storiesI'm just letting OP know that all the guys who are actually good and would have stories, probably won't comment their stories. Which is why no one has really commented on the post with cool stories. | /r/seduction | 23/03/24 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Let’s hear some going same night lay success storiesYeah and the reason why almost no one has commented on the post is because all the guys who are actually getting laid don't remember their stories cuz it's not a "success story" anymore, it's normal. Newbs have success stories, guys who are good have results. Success story almost makes it sound like it's random, like a guy win the lottery. | /r/seduction | 23/03/24 02:24 PM |
| 4 | Weird hang out plan...Never going a date where it's not just the two of you. Or you don't have a guy to go with each additional girl who's there. | /r/seduction | 23/03/24 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Let’s hear some going same night lay success storiesOnce you get good enough, there's really no such thing as success stories. Just standard results. All you have to do is talk to a bunch of girls, escalate (physically and logistically) with the ones who are interested, and then go for the pole at the end of the night. It's basically the same thing every time, just with a different girl. | /r/seduction | 23/03/24 12:19 AM |
| 23 | At Some Point “Day Game Sessions” start getting degenerate.Agree to a certain extent. After you get over approach anxiety, a lot of guys have a specific lay count or have a goal of getting whatever amount of different types of girls. And the best way to expedite that process is cold approach sessions, in addition to just approaching in your day-to-day life. About 2/3 of my total Day game approaches have been just out and about. One thing for me personally though, is that I find approach sessions legitimately fun. When you get over not just approach anxi… | /r/seduction | 23/03/24 12:11 AM |
| 53 | Is this cuck mentality holding me back from sex w women?So therapy might help a little bit, but I think for you specifically you actually need to get out there and start talking to girls and trying to get laid. The reason you're thinking of that other guy is because he has the sex life you want and you don't have your own experiences to see yourself in that position. You need to get out there. | /r/seduction | 23/03/24 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Girl seams to ignore my massages and call after got her number.. what can i tell her when i meet her in personDamn, there's no hope for you. You're blaming the girl for you not understanding social cues and not accepting a rejection. Im done responding, your mentality is not one conducive to improvement. | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 11:19 PM |
| 5 | At what body type/shape did you get the most girls/success?When I was heavy into bodybuilding and was big and ripped as fuck. Don't listen to girls when they say they like a dad bod or a "normal" body or don't care about body. EVERY girl I was with liked it. Several girls said they've never been with a muscular guy before but they liked it. Even the book worm/shy girls loved it and would put their hands on my chest and arms just to feel them. A muscular body is ALWAYS more attractive. (Cue guys responding to this with the exaggerated argument of profess… | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Girl seams to ignore my massages and call after got her number.. what can i tell her when i meet her in personOk so then you're 100% right and don't need help. So why did you ask for advice if you've already decided you're right? | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 11:12 PM |
| 0 | Girl seams to ignore my massages and call after got her number.. what can i tell her when i meet her in personBy the way that mindset of rejecting advice that you don't like is not going to serve you. You asked for advice about something, which means you did something wrong. So if someone comes in and tells you the thing you did wrong, you should at least consider it and not just say it's stupid to save your ego. | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Girl seams to ignore my massages and call after got her number.. what can i tell her when i meet her in personOh damn sorry, my speech to text messed up. "Your husband" is supposed to be "her walk by". But explain how that logic is stupid. That's a completely normal thing for women to do. They don't like social confrontation. So if you ask for her number and she rejected you, she would have to deal with the awkwardness at that moment AND every time she walked by. So she gave you her number to avoid awkwardness in the moment, and then also stopped walking by as much to avoid the awkwardness of her not be… | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Girl seams to ignore my massages and call after got her number.. what can i tell her when i meet her in personShe most likely wasn't interested. She was probably just being nice to you like she is to everyone. And then she gave you her number to be polite cuz that would be weird if she rejected you and then had to see you everyday. That's probably why you don't see your husband anymore, she's probably taking a different route. | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 09:46 PM |
| 2 | Body countCold approach, read my posts | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Is it normal that sometimes chemistry online is good but in person bad?I said 2 in the last 5 years, not lifetime. Before that I did online for three years and got 40ish lays from it. Cold approach is better by far. | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Is it normal that sometimes chemistry online is good but in person bad?I've literally been on 2 dates from online in the past 5 years, one of which I walked out of 15 seconds in. Once you get good at cold approach, online just doesn't compare. | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 01:44 AM |
| 20 | Can I still attract many women if I have small bones?This isn't meant to be taken as a snarky response, but I think you should see a therapist. This is a very small and inconsequential thing to hyper fixate on. | /r/seduction | 21/03/24 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Is it normal that sometimes chemistry online is good but in person bad?No problem, that's one of the reasons why I only do cold approach now. Online just got too annoying for me. | /r/seduction | 20/03/24 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Help with interpretationIt's a rejection, she's lying to spare your feelings. Just move on. | /r/seduction | 20/03/24 06:21 PM |
| 57 | Is it normal that sometimes chemistry online is good but in person bad?It's not only normal, it's the rule, not the exception. | /r/seduction | 20/03/24 06:15 PM |
| 3 | Question for high volume cold approachesFrom what I've seen, it's about 50/50 as far as how girls react to seeing you approach other girls. Half of them will find you more attractive because of it and half of them will not like it. It's basically a wash. Not only that, but you never know which girl is going to pull through. It could be that the girl you approached previously wasn't even going to go on a date with you anyway, and then the girl you chose not to approach just in case she sees is the one that would have ended up coming ou… | /r/seduction | 20/03/24 07:17 AM |
| 5 | PSA: There is no such thing as a “lack of chemistry” or “no spark”, only a lack of comfort and rapportMan there should be a rule or something about only commenting on a post if you've read the whole thing. Not really sure how you guys can give an opinion on this without reading the whole thing. Anyone who has expertise in an area is aware of all the little details and data points that most guys don't know, and they are trying to give you a comprehensive overview, so of course it's going to be "long". I'll agree that there's some dissonance between the title and the body, but to only focus on tha… | /r/seduction | 20/03/24 03:36 AM |
| 2 | GhostedWhat exactly do you mean by "showed interest"? | /r/seduction | 19/03/24 07:27 AM |
| 4 | Are women more attracted to good looking guys?None of our answers will matter because you already know the answer. What you're hoping is that we'll tell you that looks aren't that important so you can use that as justification to not improve your looks. If we tell you looks aren't important, you'll say "oh good, then I don't need to do anything". If we say they are important, them you'll say "well there's no use in trying then because I'm not a chad". | /r/seduction | 18/03/24 12:43 AM |
| 5 | Flowers on third date?What's your age? And are you a virgin? I don't ask that as an insult, just info so I can get a better context. Getting a girl flowers on the third date makes me think you don't have much experience in dating. The activity on the third date doesn't matter. If she likes you, she won't care much what exactly you guys are doing. But absolutely do not get her flowers. Just trust me on this. You guys haven't hooked up yet and you're not in a relationship and she hasn't really done anything special. | /r/seduction | 17/03/24 06:14 AM |
| 1 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionActually this is a weird coincidence, the post I just made might help you with this specific problem. | /r/seduction | 17/03/24 04:23 AM |
| 8 | Post hookupThere honestly isn't a problem here and you did nothing wrong. Your perception of this situation is a result of lack of abundance. A common result of lack of abundance is the inability to just let something be, or trying too hard to make something into something else. It was a hookup and that's it. And that's probably how she sees it as well. The girl sees it as just a one-time thing and it doesn't affect her and she's not trying to continue things because she has so much abundance that she does… | /r/seduction | 17/03/24 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Suffering from success☝️ | /r/seduction | 16/03/24 04:06 PM |
| 4 | Suffering from successBy the way this isn't coming from a place of judgment. If I told myself these same things years ago, I wouldn't have listened and just done the same thing. You have to actually make mistakes in order to learn from them. After a couple girls who you genuinely like or love and genuinely like or love you back cry in front of you and you see how bad you hurt them, that's usually enough to stop doing it. | /r/seduction | 16/03/24 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Suffering from successIs it immoral to keep someone around long enough until I’m ready? To be transparent with her that we should take things slowly until we’re both ready? I think you know deep down this is disingenuous. You're not going to be ready. Because you already know that you're going to want to be with other girls. "Take things slow until we're both ready" really means "keep her around until you decide if you're even going to be ready". I completely understand where you're at. You secretly know the thing yo… | /r/seduction | 16/03/24 12:18 AM |
| 4 | Suffering from successI don’t want to end up like those old school pickup artists that are incapable of being in a relationship Also, I'm not sure which PUA's you're talking about, but there's several former full-time dating coaches who now have a wife and kids and a normal relationship. | /r/seduction | 16/03/24 12:00 AM |
| 3 | Suffering from successpassing up perfectly good woman to satisfy my own short term greed/lust. Also keep in mind that since you're not fully done with your pickup phase, you'll still be using that girl you like to satisfy your need for validation/good feelings / security, because you know deep down you're not going to stay with her and you're going to sleep with other girls in the future. I would say that is arguably worse than passing her up because you want to sleep with other women. | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 11:58 PM |
| 3 | Suffering from successThe desensitization that guys go through is really just the removal of infatuation. A lot of guys have high levels of fantasizing / infatuation / idealism with regards to their feelings for women. Once you get rid of all that, you can still love a woman and truly appreciate her, but there's not the infatuation that can mess with you. It's based more on what she can actually add to your life in the real world. | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 11:54 PM |
| 5 | Suffering from successYou will become desensitized. Guaranteed. That happened to me as well. But then I realized it wasn't that I was desensitized, it's that my standards were just higher and I started seeing through the facade of beauty and saw what women really provide. It IS harder to get feelings for a girl, because you've had so many and slowly become more aware of your worth and are more comfortable actively enacting standards and filtering. | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 11:53 PM |
| 5 | Suffering from successFrom personal experience. If you get into a relationship with her and you still have that itch, eventually you'll need to scratch the itch and you'll either cheat or break up with her. It's a guarantee. So if you get into a relationship with her, realize that you are choosing to hurt her in the future. And also, you'll meet more like her. I don't know how long you've been gaming, but if you met this girl that you really like, it's basically an impossibility that you wouldn't meet another girl li… | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 11:39 PM |
| 2 | 🚗 How To Hook Up In a CarThanks a lot bro 🙏 | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 10:51 PM |
| 2 | 🚗 How To Hook Up In a CarJust anywhere that doesn't have too many other cars around. Don't have it be too secluded cuz that could give her some scary vibes. | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 06:07 PM |
| 1 | 🚗 How To Hook Up In a CarAlso just offering her a ride home is the easiest way to get her to your car. That's assuming that they didn't drive to the place themselves or are planning on taking an Uber back. That can still work, but sometimes it might be too much investment. I actually find the front of the car much easier than the back. I think I've only had it happen twice where the girl was fine being in the front seat. Usually they like the back seat just because of the slightly increased privacy and there's not thing… | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 06:07 PM |
| 9 | My thoughts on rejection after 1000+ daygame cold approachesHuge red flag that you're not willing out to give out your percentages. | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 03:35 PM |
| 2 | 🚗 How To Hook Up In a CarGo over the armrest to the back seat. Grab her hand and pull her to the back seat Seems kind of awkward. Yes, it's a car. There's no non-awkward way of hooking up in a car. That's why car hookups have a lower chance of working. This is just how to make the best of a bad situation. Getting out of the car is weird because you'd then have to ask her to unlock the back door. And then convince her to also get out and come back in. | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 01:40 PM |
| 1 | 🚗 How To Hook Up In a CarThis is such a dumb comment, I'm not even going to address it | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 01:30 PM |
| 2 | 🚗 How To Hook Up In a CarCrawl over the armrest and then grab her hand and pull her back there, just don't be super aggressive about it. | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 01:28 PM |
| 1 | 📣 Some Quick Points About High Volume ApproachingI'm just gonna upload more approaches and highlight different scenarios and eventually start making videos to go along with each post. Also gonna improve the quality of the videos. I'm just kind of getting the info out there for right now and I'll focus on the quality later. Going to make a TikTok and Instagram at some point as well. | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 04:44 AM |
| 1 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionIt's just when it comes to a girl I'm meeting for the first time that's not a pre-determined meeting from a dating app. This stood out to me. Yeah your main problem is just the standard fear of rejection. You're a little more comfortable expressing yourself when you already know the girls interested because there's a much lower chance of rejection. When you don't know if the girls interested, you're less expressive because you don't know if she'll take it or not. So you're basically looking for … | /r/seduction | 15/03/24 02:57 AM |
| 2 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionMy bad, completely forgot to address the first portion of your comment. I'm 29 now Yeah I didn't start approaching or anything till I was 27 (35 now), you have plenty of time and can definitely turn your dating life around and make huge changes. My anxiety is really bad and crippling. Do you have general anxiety or mostly social anxiety? General anxiety might require a therapist or some type of medication since it could be an actual disorder. If it only manifests socially, then you can definitel… | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 11:45 PM |
| 1 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionIs there a single helpful thing you can add to this conversation or are you just tearing down things for no reason. | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 09:03 PM |
| 1 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionYou do understand this isn't a theory right? I've done this personally and have had multiple people I've coached do it and it works. I'm not just talking out of my ass here. Obviously if someone has a legit anxiety disorder of some kind I wouldn't be able to help them with that. But assuming it's just the normal level of fear that most guys have, this works. This exercise is not something to implement right away. It's for that last 10 to 20% of fear that guys have that they can't seem to get rid… | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 09:02 PM |
| 2 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionDefinitely go out by yourself. Close to 100% of the lays I've gotten from night game were me going out solo. And once you get decent at it, other people actually just slow down. | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 09:00 PM |
| 1 | I am good when the frame is set but I suck at creating/maintaining it. What should I do?I honestly have no idea how to speed up the process. It's a thing you just have to immerse yourself and slowly make changes over time. Even thinking of how long it's going to take is not really helpful because every person is different and everyone has their own combination of problems. And once you get to the point where you actually have made the change, you don't think about how long it took to get there anyway, you're just glad you made it. It's an entire journey that happens in sections and… | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 08:57 PM |
| 1 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionI know you meant that as an insult, but I'm going to respond as if you didn't. Yes you're 100% correct. This is a seduction forum so obviously I'm going to present things through that lens. You could use that same mindset with everything else in here. Approaching is just talking to people lulz Escalating is just touching her lmao How you get good at pickup is the same way you get good at everything else in life. Volume, exposure therapy, and self-reflection. I'm just applying those concepts spec… | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 08:49 PM |
| 1 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionOnly reason I'm responding to you is so other people reading this can be helped by this info. I normally try to not respond to trolls or people who are just inherently negative and pessimistic about everything. You didn't say REALISTIC. You said (realistic). Semantics, not gonna address From my post: "the likelihood of this happening IN REAL LIFE is close to zero, but there’s a lot of guys who still worry about stuff like this (mostly people who are chronically online and have no real-world expe… | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 04:16 AM |
| 1 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionI say REALISTIC worst case scenarios. What are some realistic worst case scenarios you think would happen from any of the examples I gave? | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 03:39 AM |
| 1 | I am good when the frame is set but I suck at creating/maintaining it. What should I do?That's good. The trick is applying that same thing to other areas of your life. Different areas of your life will have different levels of difficulty and actually doing that though. It's a constant process. | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 03:15 AM |
| 1 | I am good when the frame is set but I suck at creating/maintaining it. What should I do?Interesting, I'm not uncomfortable with prolonged or awkward silences in general. Edit: just realized you said you're not UNcomfortable. My bad. Rest of the comment still applies though. The first thing to ask yourself is why you're not comfortable with it. And you might have to keep asking why multiple times to get to the root of the issue. It might look something like this. Why am I uncomfortable? Because I feel like people are judging me Why do I feel like people are judging me Because I have… | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 03:12 AM |
| 4 | I started reading models and I'm not sure if to take it seriouslyI don't know if you're being disingenuous by taking it 100% literally when you know most things aren't literal, or if you think he's ACTUALLY saying that words matter 0%. Obviously words matter, what he's saying is that it matters MORE how you say them and the context around them. As long as you're within the general bounds of communication and coherence, how you say things matters more. If that's the one thing you're hung up about and that one thing is causing you to not implement any of the ot… | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 02:28 AM |
| 3 | I started reading models and I'm not sure if to take it seriouslyWhy don't you just test it out and see? | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 02:03 AM |
| 4 | 😱 How To Overcome All Anxiety - Logical Max ExtensionI don't understand the point you're trying to make. | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 01:59 AM |
| 1 | I am good when the frame is set but I suck at creating/maintaining it. What should I do?When you're in a new environment, what are you more likely to think? Okay I'm going to do x thing and I want y things to happen Or How should I be acting/what should I be doing? If it's the latter, you're catering too much to external factors and not operating from your own frame. | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 12:54 AM |
| 1 | I am good when the frame is set but I suck at creating/maintaining it. What should I do?even when the context it's not the best for that So there's definitely calibration involved and to a certain degree you have to cater to the context of the environment, but I think you might be doing it a little too much. It sounds like how you act is more informed by the context around you than how you want to do things or how you want to express yourself. | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 12:51 AM |
| 2 | I am good when the frame is set but I suck at creating/maintaining it. What should I do?Not necessarily only party mode, just being yourself and expressing yourself regardless of the context. Like that example with talking to your friend in the kitchen. Even the frame of feeling like you need to say something or need to continue the conversation in a certain way means you're not being yourself. If there's no conversation to be had, you don't have to take the burden and assume you have to keep it going. It sounds like to a certain degree you might not actually know your true self so… | /r/seduction | 14/03/24 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Too much texting before first date?Just the concept of thinking you need to keep her super interested until the date shows a little bit of neediness and insecurity. She's already interested. I'm honestly surprised she hasn't lost a little interest from the amount of texting you've already been doing. You don't need to text anymore. If she texts you, you can respond and maybe have a small back and forth, but don't feel the need to actively do all this stuff to keep her interested. She's already interested. Trust yourself and your … | /r/seduction | 13/03/24 11:37 PM |
| 6 | Need Advice: Choosing Between a Bar and Wine at Home for a DrinkGo out to the bar. Usually inviting a girl straight to your place, even if she shows a lot of interest, will put up her defenses a little (unless it's just a clear cut and dry "hey let's fuck" scenario). Go somewhere, have a little fun, touch a little bit, and then head back to your place. | /r/seduction | 13/03/24 11:35 PM |
| 1 | I am good when the frame is set but I suck at creating/maintaining it. What should I do?Your frame is reliant on the environment and external factors. When you are in an environment or have certain external circumstances that create the frame for you, you basically fall into that frame and you're comfortable there. But as far as actually creating the frame actively, you're not able to do that. Basically the external factors give you permission to have a strong frame. All you need to do is give yourself permission to act that same way regardless of the external factors and problem s… | /r/seduction | 13/03/24 11:28 PM |
| 1 | 💐 Exact Steps - How To Build Comfort and Rapport On a DateIt's more about just being engaged with what they are saying and kind of confirming/validating what they are saying/feeling. When they are excited, get excited with them. If they are talking about some difficult obstacle they overcame, validate that it was hard and that it was good they accomplished it. And then make positive assumptions about them based on what they said. Pretty much everyone has things about them that are above average or things that they've done that other people haven't done… | /r/seduction | 13/03/24 06:49 PM |
| 2 | 💐 Exact Steps - How To Build Comfort and Rapport On a DateThat's actually a good point about negative topics, thanks for pointing that out. Sometimes going into deeper topics can get into negative territory and it's good to avoid that. Probably going to make an edit to the post. And yeah I agree about the physical contact helping with comfort and attraction. I'll probably make a post at some point specifically talking about different types of physical escalation on dates. | /r/seduction | 13/03/24 06:43 PM |
| 2 | 💐 Exact Steps - How To Build Comfort and Rapport On a DateVERY first thing is get your fitness up. Physical attraction is what gets your foot in the door to even have a chance at a hookup or relationship. There's a lot of guys out there that meet literally every other standard a girl might have, but because they are out of shape or dress horribly or don't groom themselves well, they never get the chance to display that to women. Outside of that, from an actual game perspective, I would read my other posts. They go over everything from how to approach, … | /r/seduction | 13/03/24 06:39 PM |
| 36 | I find it hard to catch feelings for girls that I’m dealing withNo trust me, this is the much better way to be. You're looking at it through a more logical / realistic lens, and not the fairy tale infatuation that most guys do. It's like being told Santa Claus doesn't exist. Yeah it was fun to have that fantasy, but you can't go through life believing a fantasy. All that's happened is that because you don't have infatuation anymore, your standards have raised and you're probably realizing how little most women have to offer. This is why women use their beaut… | /r/seduction | 13/03/24 06:04 PM |
| 5 | 💐 Exact Steps - How To Build Comfort and Rapport On a DateThanks bro, means a lot 🙏 | /r/seduction | 13/03/24 05:23 AM |
| 8 | Are girls that subtle?This is the right response. I hate it when guys talk about IOI's and choosing signals and thinking that means anything. Or only doing things when there's a certain amount of perceived interest. I would say maybe 2% of girls I've approached or hooked up with even knew I existed before I went up and talked to them. | /r/seduction | 12/03/24 11:44 PM |
| 1 | A little push to start approaching?"I've decided to try cold approaching". "I need a push". Looks like you haven't decided yet then. I would just stop until you REALLY make the decision. | /r/seduction | 12/03/24 04:36 PM |
| 2 | How not to be cheesy?Yes that was a weird thing to say. You could have just said something normal like "you want to grab a coffee?" Why would you invite a girl out through text for a date RIGHT AT THAT VERY SECOND? People have lives. You could have sent that text to your mom or your best friend and they would have not come out. It's the middle of the f****** day with zero notice. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TEXT HER AGAIN UNTIL SHE CONTACTS YOU. You'll just come off as needy and pushy. And definitely don't call her. | /r/seduction | 12/03/24 04:22 PM |
| 0 | Why is it that a girl will desire you more when you’re toxic?Yeah dude, the conclusions you're drawing are based on close to zero data. There's multiple reasons why either of those things could happen. | /r/seduction | 12/03/24 04:12 PM |
| 5 | 📣 Some Quick Points About High Volume ApproachingYeah I do door to door knocking for my business and it's the exact same process. | /r/seduction | 12/03/24 12:13 AM |
| 1 | 📣 Some Quick Points About High Volume ApproachingIf you use a "button spy cam" attached to your chemise, you can film an approach in POV version (but better to blur the woman's face because... for many reasons. You don't want the woman to find out your channel. Better safe than sorry. Yeah the button cams are exactly what I'm looking into right now for POV approaches. | /r/seduction | 12/03/24 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Best ways to approach Social media dating? Specifically, dating apps is where I find it grueling.This 100% | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 11:32 PM |
| 1 | If your trying to approach before your in a social mood you're going to have a bad timeYep | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Approach anxiety. Yes I know…One thing that I've realized is that most beliefs are not 100% logical and rational. You can always find exceptions and there will always be people who don't agree with you or will challenge you on it. At a certain point you basically just have to make a conscious decision that you believe something. You have large amounts of data confirming that approaching is okay and you can get dates and lays/relationships from it. So you really just need to fully accept the objective data you've already gat… | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 10:36 PM |
| 5 | Burnt outIf you really are going out almost every single night and still haven't gotten laid, there's only three possible reasons. You are disproportionately unattractive You hardly ever actually approach when you're out When you do approach or are approached, you don't escalate and go for the pull every time These are the only three reasons. Be honest with yourself and figure out which ones and fix those. | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 01:40 PM |
| 15 | easily jealous of other guys who get a lot of women.You're not jealous of more attractive guys getting women. You're not even jealous of just guys in general getting women. You're not even jealous of other guys outside of women. You have resentment towards yourself for the things you haven't accomplished yet and that makes you insecure. The good thing is that you know exactly the things you need to change because you mentioned them in your post. Only way out of this is self improvement. | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 05:35 AM |
| 2 | Approach anxiety. Yes I know…If you've done several thousand approaches and still have approach anxiety, there is definitely some belief issue there. You'll always fall back down to the level of your beliefs when you don't have external feedback to fall back on (feedback in this case being consistent approaching). What it sounds like is happening is you have a ramp up period and then after getting enough results, your confidence and all that stuff grows and you're in a much better headspace, but that headspace is only valid… | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 05:32 AM |
| 2 | I should be ready there and then?It seemed like she didn't really care honestly. But also, you should flip it back on her. Your framing it as if you're the one in the wrong or you have to prove to her that it's okay you need time to get turned on. The more attractive girls are used to guys just being thankful for the opportunity to sleep with them and guys just seeing their body and then catering to them. If it takes you a little bit, just tell her it takes you a little bit. If anything, it will raise your value a little bit an… | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 03:24 AM |
| 2 | was this genuine attraction or just alcohol?It was definitely genuine attraction, she was just a little more open about it because of the alcohol. Side note, some girls will purposely say they are drunk and exaggerate it a little bit so they have plausible deniability for hooking up with you. Cuz then the next day they can just say "oh I was drunk so it's ok heehee". | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Is 3 hours too far to drive to meet someone?In this very specific case where she already invited you to her place and it's close to an activity that you already like doing, I would say go for it. | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Approach anxiety. Yes I know…Yeah you have to do it so often that it's normal. High volume and for a consistent period of time. I always recommend 50 plus approaches per week for at least 12 weeks and it's basically impossible to still have not manageable approach anxiety. Outside of that though, there is a certain level of belief you need. If at your core, you think that approaching is not okay or you would back down if someone called you out on it, you will always have noticeable approach anxiety. I'm guessing you've done… | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 02:54 AM |
| 13 | If your trying to approach before your in a social mood you're going to have a bad timeIf you don't have much confidence and the belief in yourself then this is true. Approaching itself PUTS YOU in a social mood. I do warm up approaches all the time. All you have to do is say to yourself "these first three approaches don't count and I'm just warming up". If you're scared of rejection or have a low level of self belief or really internalize people's reactions, then I could see how it would have a negative effect. But even then, the answer is to keep doing approaches until you're ov… | /r/seduction | 10/03/24 02:48 AM |
| 2 | As someone who used to pull, I’ve become so desperate and not sure where to start?Yeah being the one planning the events is huge. Go to other people's parties and make friends with them and then just invite them to your s*** and then you're just permanently part of the social ecosystem. | /r/seduction | 09/03/24 08:10 PM |
| 1 | As someone who used to pull, I’ve become so desperate and not sure where to start?One thing I will say is that if you actually are a student at that college, to not cold Approach at the college. College is more about social Circle and status within the schools hierarchy. So you can cold approach in other areas, but specifically on campus, it should be more about just making a bunch of friends and having access to the parties and the high status people. And then you can invite girls and people you know to those. And then what will happen is you'll eventually have a big enough … | /r/seduction | 09/03/24 07:17 PM |
| 2 | As someone who used to pull, I’ve become so desperate and not sure where to start?Your only problem is that before you got opportunities on "autopilot" through social circle, so you didn't have to actually go out there and obtain them. Now that you don't have a built in funnel and have to actually actively get the girls, you are struggling. You just need to do cold approach. If you got girls before, you clearly have enough looks/personality/confidence to close. Your problem isn't your product, it's your least generation. | /r/seduction | 09/03/24 06:18 PM |
| 3 | How likely is it to get discovered on Tinder by colleagues/friends?It's common to use dating apps now. Most likely no one will care even if they see your profile. But if you're still super worried about your reputation, just don't use tinder and use hinge or bumble instead. Those apps have less overtly negative connotations attached to them. | /r/seduction | 09/03/24 05:42 PM |
| 5 | Yes, You Can Approach Women In the GymStandard Reddit convo 😂 | /r/seduction | 04/03/24 02:35 AM |
| 1 | How can associating your self worth with being able to date and have a girlfriend affect you?I personally think you need to put pressure on yourself. You won't fully invest in accomplishing a goal unless it's something you really want and will experience a negative emotion/consequence from not achieving. But there's also so many other layers to this. A lot of personal info we don't know about you to really make a solid judgement either way. | /r/seduction | 03/03/24 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Texting with a long time to the next dateThis type of situation is context dependent. Have you guys already slept together? If so, was it both times? Have you guys gone on legit dates and spend time together? What was the context that you guys met? Do you have other girls you're talking to? If it's super casual or you guys haven't been seeing each other that long, which is true in this case since it's only been twice, you don't need to say anything. Girls are actually pretty good at picking up when guys are sending texts just to mainta… | /r/seduction | 03/03/24 10:42 PM |
| 8 | Yes, You Can Approach Women In the GymThen you either do not have a good physique, are awkward / have too much anxiety and that's coming off, or you tried it a couple times and decided it wasn't worth it. But believe what you want. It's not belief, it's real world experience. I've gotten laid from it and guys I know have gotten laid from it. I'm all for you not believing it's possible, less competition for the rest of us. | /r/seduction | 03/03/24 08:38 PM |
| 33 | Yes, You Can Approach Women In the GymSo many idiots/scared guys in the comments. This is a good guide. Most guys just don't have the balls and physique to be able to do this so they hate on other guys who can. I know several guys who have gotten laid/gf from a gym approach. But go ahead and keep "not being a creep", the guys who aren't scared of everything in life will go and "be a creep" and actually get laid. | /r/seduction | 03/03/24 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Everybody asks how to be successful. I'll ask something else.Well since no one has responded, I'll just say read all my posts for a good starting baseline. | /r/seduction | 03/03/24 05:29 AM |
| 2 | Cold Approach in Hong Kong - Not Getting NumbersAppreciate it bro 🙏 I've approached 87 girls in total in around 2 months Ok this is the main thing to fix. You need to drastically increase your approach volume. If you implement only one of my recommendations, have it be this. You need to absolute bare minimum double your weekly approach volume. Triple or more would actually be best. Approaches are like reps. The more reps you do, the better you get and the more comfortable you'll be. 11 approaches per week is nowhere near enough to make notice… | /r/seduction | 02/03/24 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Cold Approach in Hong Kong - Not Getting NumbersWhat's your approach to number ratio? And number to date ratio? And total lifetime approach number? And what city are you in? Being skinny in America is a point against you. You'll lose girls/have lower interest just from that alone. Combined with 6-7 in face and being a minority, you probably just barely meet the looks threshold. Which will still net you some results, but they will be reduced. The nervousness and anxiety is a big problem. Makes girls feel unsafe/anxious. Lack of congruence and … | /r/seduction | 27/02/24 07:07 PM |
| 1 | I feel unable to seduce with a cold approach. How overcome it and start meet women? (33M)Actually if you could private message me, I can give much better feedback. | /r/seduction | 17/02/24 08:16 PM |
| 1 | What do other girls think when they see you approach?Most people in general don't care. At most what they will do is halfway listen to how the interaction goes if they are within earshot, but only out of novelty / rarity, not because they think you're weird or a creep or you suck. As far as other girls seeing you do it. For the most part you don't really have to worry about that because statistically, you're not going to hook up with most girls anyway. But even of the ones that you could, it's about a 50/50 split. Half of the girls will not like i… | /r/seduction | 17/02/24 05:27 PM |
| 6 | Dating 20s vs 30sThe best way to supplement your dating options in your 30's is cold approach. It's not just the best, it's almost the only way unless you want to be either severely restricted by social circle and apps or build a lot of status/large social circle with high churn to compensate for the smaller amount of time/social opportunities at that age. Doubly true if you want girls in their 20's. 20's and 30's demographics mostly cross over naturally in mundane day to day activities/venues. It's fairly diffi… | /r/seduction | 16/02/24 01:12 AM |
| 3 | I feel unable to seduce with a cold approach. How overcome it and start meet women? (33M)Body: I'm bit below my "best shape" but still there're tons of men with bodies way worst than mine.Right now I'm 70 kg x 178 cm; not big but with a 3-4 months of gym I seem the classic sport man, not a body builder, clearly, but when I start to dating someone, usually I get some good feedback. So I'm not impressive but I hardly doubt that here lies the problem. This is cope. 70 kg at that height is pretty skinny. Yeah it's not really below average, but it's also not above average. Girls only go … | /r/seduction | 10/02/24 10:49 PM |
| 1 | I feel unable to seduce with a cold approach. How overcome it and start meet women? (33M)All right well I can already tell you're not open to things outside of what you think might be the problem. Have a good day. | /r/seduction | 08/02/24 11:20 PM |
| 11 | I am pretty sure I just fumbled an easy layThe only way to truly get over the mindset that it's not okay to touch girls on dates is to just start touching them on dates. You're not going to feel comfortable doing it at first. But just do it enough and do it on every date (and to make sure you actually generate an updates to get those reps in) and eventually you'll see some respond positively and that reference experience will solidify the mindset that it's okay. The mindset you DON'T want to have is that you're going to be comfortable an… | /r/seduction | 06/02/24 05:21 AM |
| 10 | I am pretty sure I just fumbled an easy layYou're completely right in your mindset and don't let people convince you otherwise. I'm actually going to write a post about this because this is actually a pretty common issue. There's a huge difference between thirst and just standard escalating / sexual aggression. | /r/seduction | 06/02/24 05:15 AM |
| 4 | My best daytime opener (try this!)Ok so the answer is no | /r/seduction | 05/02/24 12:17 PM |
| 1 | My best daytime opener (try this!)Is this comment based on personal experience or experience of guys you've known and you know the nuanced details of their results, or are you just saying "maybe" because you don't actually know and you like to keep your hopes up as motivation regardless of if those hopes are based in reality? | /r/seduction | 05/02/24 06:47 AM |
| -1 | My best daytime opener (try this!)Or you have. Really said "no you" 😂 | /r/seduction | 04/02/24 07:08 PM |
| 0 | My best daytime opener (try this!)I'm hostile because it's lies like this that stop a lot of guys from progressing or even starting in the first place. They get all this misinformation and think there's these crazy high standards they need to live up to and they get these unrealistic expectations which prevents them from getting better. It's obvious you have very minimal experience with any type of approaching, otherwise you would know that there are absolutely no circumstances under which what he's saying could happen consisten… | /r/seduction | 04/02/24 06:31 PM |
| -1 | My best daytime opener (try this!)Yes I'm hostile towards people who lie. Crazy, I know. | /r/seduction | 04/02/24 06:06 PM |
| 0 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)It's based on my experience and the experience of dozens of people I have known over the years who approaching High volume. I know several people who have thousands of approaches under their belt (I personally have ~9.5k) and not a single one of them has ever had something happened to them. If you have personally experienced this or you know a lot of people who have, I understand why you would have this belief, but just know that it is an outlier situation and the general population will never e… | /r/seduction | 04/02/24 06:06 PM |
| 1 | My best daytime opener (try this!)It would be pretty easy for you to just record it and post it somewhere. Doesn't even need to be video, just audio would be fine. I've uploaded multiple videos validating things I talk about. | /r/seduction | 04/02/24 05:55 PM |
| 8 | My best daytime opener (try this!)I know you can't back down at this point and admit your exaggerating, but anyone who's reading this, just know that he 100% is lying. I'm not saying you can't use the indirect opener you suggested, and I'm not saying you can't read in from that to asking the girl on an instant date. Asking for directions or asking where something is is a reliable indirect opener. In transitioning from that to asking the girl to wherever you're going is fine. I'm just saying that your actual conversion rate you'r… | /r/seduction | 04/02/24 05:06 PM |
| 16 | My best daytime opener (try this!)I wasn't going to say anything until you said your "hang out" rate is 30 to 50%. This is absolutely ridiculous and you are just straight up lying. Absolutely no one will get that high of a conversion rate for an instant date over a long period of time. Only possible way this could happen is it you hit a random pocket of the girls one time and just got a disproportionate High percentage. Like maybe you did four approaches in a day and two of them happened to agree to an instadate. This is giving … | /r/seduction | 04/02/24 04:49 PM |
| 0 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)I'm not attacking you and I don't think you insulted me. I responded to let other people (who might be beginners or inexperienced) know that the supposed risk you're talking about is basically non-existent. Obviously if a person has an EXTREMELY high level of money and fame, that's something to take into a SLIGHTLY higher level of consideration, but for most guys, the issue is non-existent. | /r/seduction | 04/02/24 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Daygame Approach Recap + Why High Volume Approaching is NecessaryI tell guys to do pretty much all the same stuff you just said. Self-improvement is the most important part of all this. Only difference is that instead of waiting for the opportunities to come to you, you go out and create the opportunities. | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Daygame Approach Recap + Why High Volume Approaching is NecessaryIt seems like you think because I approach, I can't also have a life and hobbies. Also it seems like you think that you can't day game and also have good inner game. | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 11:28 PM |
| 2 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)Standard opinion of someone who is chronically online and doesn't know how the real world actually operates. These types of situations are so rare as to be inconsequential. | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 10:52 PM |
| 1 | I feel unable to seduce with a cold approach. How overcome it and start meet women? (33M)Almost no one has actually done everything, or even close to it. They will make a handful of small changes and think that's enough. I'm not against cosmetic surgery, but it's probably not necessary for most guys. | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 10:49 PM |
| 0 | Daygame Approach Recap + Why High Volume Approaching is NecessaryYou can just say you have approach anxiety, it's ok | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 10:44 PM |
| 3 | I feel unable to seduce with a cold approach. How overcome it and start meet women? (33M)Well considering you said you don't feel good with your appearance, that's the first and most important thing you need to fix. If a girl is not at least slightly physically attracted to you, there is absolutely nothing you can do and you have no chance of hooking up with her. Physical attraction is the first filter you need to pass through. That's what allows you the chance to even do any type of seduction or escalation. Until you have a decent body / style / grooming, it's basically useless to … | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 01:44 PM |
| 9 | How do I get a girl friend to introduce me to other girls?One thing I will say is don't get discouraged. After college is where most guys flourish and greatly increase their value. Status in college is very heavily dictated by a few play a sport or if you are in a frat. If you do one of those two things, you'll get late pretty easily. Everyone else has to put in a decent amount of effort. Once college is over and everyone is out in the real world, that's when you really see who is valuable. I'm in my mid thirties and the last two girls I hooked up with… | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 08:35 AM |
| 38 | How do I get a girl friend to introduce me to other girls?It depends a large degree on how that girl views you. If she sees you as purely a friend and nothing else, and she knows that all you will do is hit on her friends and make things weird and her friends might not be down for that, she's not going to bring her friends along. It wouldn't make sense for her to bring her friends along to an event where they might feel uncomfortable or just not be interested in the guy. If the girls aren't interested or you make things awkward, the girls will blame th… | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 08:26 AM |
| 2 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)Thanks for the positive feedback. I can tell you have an above average level of experience and aren't super ego oriented. It seems, based on my personal experience, that the better you get and the more experience you have in dating, the more open you are to different ways of thinking and different ways of going about things. I love when guys comment on my posts and are like "bro you suck, I do different things". It's like, yeah everyone has different strategies and everyone is always going to be… | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 08:10 AM |
| 1 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)Thanks 🙏 Regarding the one hour limit, this is probably the thing I've gotten the most pushback on. It's not necessarily that the actual amount of time on the date matters (within reason), it's more so just the mentality most guys have is that they need to hit a certain threshold or check whole bunch of different boxes with vague criteria before they go for the pull. I myself even break that rule regularly and have dates go up to 90 minutes, maybe slightly more on rare occasions. But it's becaus… | /r/seduction | 03/02/24 06:43 AM |
| 1 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)as someone with a 100+ lay count ☝️🤓 "As a mother..." 💅 100 lay count isn't overly impressive enough to use as an argument from authority. My lay count is 250+ (plus 200 plus of them are from cold approach, not mostly online), so does that mean I'm right because my number is higher? If you can pull to your house then sure but deferrals it’s better to be close to her house. That way she’s less likely to flake. If her house is an option even better. She doesn’t know you yet, the easier the date is… | /r/seduction | 02/02/24 04:09 PM |
| 1 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)“I’m not saying that you absolutely can’t pull if you’re farther away than that, I’m just saying the chance decreases.” “You’re farther away from your place which decreases the chance of a pull, and trying to pull to HER place also has a much lower chance of working. Again, not saying it’s impossible, it’s just a drastically reduced chance.” “(because I know some idiot will bring up some random time they had a dinner date and got a hookup from it), I’m not saying it’s impossible, it’s just such … | /r/seduction | 02/02/24 12:48 AM |
| 2 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)Yeah the 15 minutes thing is just what I do and a lot of guys who use that have had success. Part of the reason I say 15 minutes instead of 20 or 30 ish is because I know most guys won't actually do 15 minutes. They will stall and take a long time. When I say 15 minutes, I know most guys are going to look at that and then in real life actually take 20 to 30 minutes because they are scared and second guessing. Whereas if I said 30 minutes was acceptable, most guys would wait 45 minutes to an hour… | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 10:18 PM |
| 1 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)😁 | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 10:14 PM |
| 1 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)You kind of just answered your own question. You only had the hotel thing work once. It's like I say in the post, most methods will work every once in awhile. All the things I listed are what you should do if you want the highest chance of getting laid on a CONSISTENT basis. By the way, if you have your own room, you can still pull back to your place. It's not ideal, but it's definitely better than a hotel. Also if you have a car, you can pull to your car and do something there. I hooked up with… | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 10:14 PM |
| 1 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)During the day, literally anywhere. My other posts explain approaching in much more detail. | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 06:47 PM |
| 3 | Daygame Approach Recap + Why High Volume Approaching is Necessary100%. It's always easy to tell the guys who haven't approached much because they have so many limiting beliefs and have very black and white thinking because of their lack of data points. That's one of the reasons why volume is so important. A lot of guys, mostly the inexperienced ones, think that volume means spam approaching (which is a very nebulous term itself), but the reason for high volume is to have more chances to practice and to get a larger data set and a bird's-eye view of the dating… | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 06:45 PM |
| 2 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)What's your usual excuse/reason for inviting them over? I'll say I have drinks / I can make them a drink at my place, I've used my balcony / good view as a reason, I've used a whole bunch of different reasons. Main thing is you just have to have high conviction when doing it. I do this thing I call "telling the question". Basically you ask a question, but say it as if you're firmly making a statement, with downward inflection at the end. | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 04:08 PM |
| 3 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)I guess if you do it early you put her in a sexual mind frame much earlier and you can build on that. Yes that's exactly it. Also, don't just go for a kiss and end the date. Actually pull her back to your place. You don't really need to start much physical escalating before she's at your place. You can save it all for after the pull. | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 03:24 PM |
| 3 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)I've had this happen a handful of times. Some girls are just really closed off or they have no intention of hooking up so don't really want to touch or anything. | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 03:21 PM |
| 2 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)It got to the point where if the girl won't hug, the date may as well just be over in my eyes 😂 I've known multiple guys (myself included) who have done that. Girl doesn't hug, guy ends date immediately 🤣 Used to extend dates to 6+ hours in the hope that it would eventually lead to something, way back in the day. Never worked! Yep! Yep! These insanely long dates are much more common than I thought before I started working with other guys. No need to stress if you're just being yourself The hard … | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 03:20 PM |
| 3 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)I absolutely promise, you are losing more girls by taking that long. I'm actually going to do some case studies on different coaching clients I've had so guys can see their progression of results from implementing certain things. I have one guy who was doing pretty much everything else in this post, except his dates were multiple hours long. He got 2 lays in a week after he started going for the pull after an hour. | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 03:16 PM |
| 2 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)Thanks brah 😎 | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 03:09 PM |
| 7 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)Actually you know what, you just made me realize that I need to make a small change in the post. It's not that the date should be 1 hour or less, it's that the guy should go for the pull in 1 hour or less. So there's maybe like a 10 or 15 minute buffer after the pull. But no, dates don't need to be multiple hours long. That's a novice mindset. Try going on 5 plus dates a week with that mindset and trying to rack up lays as the goal and you'll see what I'm talking about. | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 03:09 PM |
| 4 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)that's when you aren't able to bring her back to yours for whatever reason True You can pick casual joints too. Still able to pull at the end of them. True also, one reason I have the dinner dates rule here is because some guys think that they HAVE TO have a more formal dinner date. This is just getting them used to the idea that they don't have to. Also, if a guy is doing a high volume of approaching like I suggest, they're going to be getting five plus dates a week. 20 bucks per date is a litt… | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 03:05 PM |
| 1 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)I don't even understand your question. | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 02:49 PM |
| -1 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)🤣🤣🤣 ok | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 02:48 PM |
| -4 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)Because the goal in this post is to get laid, not have a "good date". | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 02:44 PM |
| 2 | 🧙📖 Total's First Date Manifesto (manifesto just sounds cooler than guide, right?)Thanks 🙏 | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 05:04 AM |
| 1 | 💪 How To Approach EVERY Single TimeNp bro 💪 | /r/seduction | 01/02/24 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Having Less Success than my Friends, why?Based on that other comment where you said you commented on that girl's ass in the yellow dress, seems like you have a very low social awareness. Also based on your height and weight, you probably just barely meet the looks threshold. So it's nice guy vibes, plus low social awareness, plus being at the very low end of the looks threshold. You have a lot of work to do. | /r/seduction | 31/01/24 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Cold approach success rateOk, a few things to implement to improve your chances of getting laid: No dates over 1 hour. Attraction and sexual tension has a certain amount of momentum. The longer the date is, the more the momentum slows down and fizzles out and she sees you as more of a nice guy. Go for the pull on every single date. On every single date you should be asking the girl back to your place. The girl isn't going to do it for you. The only way to get a girl in your bed is to actually get her back to your bed in … | /r/seduction | 31/01/24 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Having Less Success than my Friends, why?You most likely don't meet the minimum looks threshold. Probably nice guy vibes as well. | /r/seduction | 31/01/24 08:32 AM |
| 2 | 💪 How To Approach EVERY Single TimeGood talk 👍 | /r/seduction | 31/01/24 05:16 AM |
| 1 | 💪 How To Approach EVERY Single TimeOk then that's not rejection sensitivity, that's an ego problem. | /r/seduction | 31/01/24 05:03 AM |
| 1 | 💪 How To Approach EVERY Single TimeBut my issue is when I’m sure she’s interested and then I’m wrong. I don’t even care about being rejected…it fucks with your ego that you were wrong when all signs pointed to clear attraction. That is fear of rejection. You thought she was interested, and then she wasn't. Meaning you were rejected. It messing with your ego means you were affected by the rejection. | /r/seduction | 31/01/24 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach success rateGotcha, and approximately how long were your dates on average? | /r/seduction | 31/01/24 01:52 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach success rateOkay, your issue is escalation. 4% out of 300 approaches is 12 dates. Did you try to pull the girl back to your place for every single one of those 12 dates? | /r/seduction | 30/01/24 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach success rateThat's decent, have you gotten any lays from it? | /r/seduction | 30/01/24 07:28 PM |
| 3 | How to differentiate between aggressiveness and needinessYou did nothing wrong. She might legitimately have felt guilty and wanted to go home. And now she doesn't want to talk to you because she can't deal with the situation. You were probably going to be a one-time thing either way whether you hooked up or not. But also, I have this sense that there's some key thing you're leaving out about the date/back at your place. | /r/seduction | 30/01/24 07:03 PM |
| 5 | What was your game changing moment or moments?Your ability to generate a high volume of leads, whether through approach or online, and your ability to escalate with those girls to the point of sex, are the two most important factors outside of meeting the minimum looks threshold. | /r/seduction | 30/01/24 06:20 PM |
| 3 | How to differentiate between aggressiveness and needinessAggressiveness is trying to find out the answer. Neediness is already knowing the answer but not accepting it. | /r/seduction | 30/01/24 05:31 PM |
| 2 | What was your game changing moment or moments?When I realized volume and escalation were the 2 most important things (outside of looks) | /r/seduction | 30/01/24 05:20 PM |
| 2 | FR [20Y/male] slept w 3 girls on holiday w the boys in 5 days & how I did itThis is a great example of having success from just doing the things to get laid and not doing the things to have good game. The nights you were just normal, you had success. The nights where you tried to run game, you didn't. This is the overall framework I operate under as well. Look good, be expressive/confident, escalate. Anyone who can do that well and consistently will get 90% of the way to where they want to be. Great report. | /r/seduction | 30/08/23 07:26 AM |
| 1 | FR [20Y/male] slept w 3 girls on holiday w the boys in 5 days & how I did itCompletely agree. Pretty much every city I've lived in, I've had some guys say it's easy to get laid and some guys say it's hard. "Girls in Vegas are stuck up and materialistic. So hard to get laid." "Girls in Vegas are so easy. They all just want to have fun and hook up, that's why they came here." The only city I've ever been to where it was noticeably different from others is Miami. Still not impossible obviously, but the average demographic was different enough to where it was noticeable to … | /r/seduction | 30/08/23 07:21 AM |
| -2 | [M34] Was rejected badly a few days ago and having a hard time getting over it.Also please explain what is wrong with a 34 year old approaching an 18 year old. | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 04:25 PM |
| 2 | [M34] Was rejected badly a few days ago and having a hard time getting over it.I'll make a post about this. | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 04:24 PM |
| 20 | [M34] Was rejected badly a few days ago and having a hard time getting over it.Well I'm 34 and have a plate who's 22 and one who just turned 21. If you keep yourself looking good, yes older guys have their Pick. If you look like shit, then yeah your age doesn't matter. | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 04:24 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah just private message me | /r/seduction | 27/10/22 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Guys iam absolute loser and i need your adviceMessage me and I'll help you out. | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Guys iam absolute loser and i need your adviceThis has to be a troll post. You're the guy on the right? | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Neil Strauss 30 days challenge to overcome approaching anxietyYou literally just asked me to send a link instead of just typing it into Google? Jesus Christ. | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Neil Strauss 30 days challenge to overcome approaching anxietyDo Good-Looking Loser's Approach Anxiety Program. Leagues better. | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 08:03 PM |
| 5 | Any indirect game infields?Nope, girls everywhere would be weirded out by this. | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Any indirect game infields?The bigger issue is why you feel you need to go indirect. | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that dating become easier in your 30s?Dang, wish I would have looked at your account history before replying. You don't know what you're talking about. You're a pure theory guy who maybe gets laid every once in a while and thinks you have things figured out. | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that dating become easier in your 30s?Jesus Christ dude. If you truly believe that women, on average, give dating advice that helps men achieve their goals, I don't even know what to say. Also arguing semantics is retarded. Everyone knows what I mean when I say "proven". Even gravity is just a theory, but you don't hear people say "CaN yOu PrOvE tHaT?" You know what I'm saying. Women, on average, give bad dating advice when taking into account the overall picture. | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 07:51 PM |
| 1 | How to display dominance with a girlYou don't display dominance. You actually be dominant over her. MAKE her do what you want her to do. That's it. | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Is it true that dating become easier in your 30s?Gym, dress better, groom yourself style yourself better, take care of your skin. | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 04:36 PM |
| 4 | Is it true that dating become easier in your 30s?Please everyone disregard this comment. It's been proven time and time again that women give horrible dating advice. I know if I continued asking questions and dug deep, the truth would be revealed but I just don't want to go through the same song and dance right now just to come to the conclusion we already know. Also, we're trying to go for ATTRACTIVE women. | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 04:35 PM |
| 2 | Is it true that dating become easier in your 30s?"I am a bit below average looking" This is the main thing you need to fix. If you don't look good, no amount of "game" will help you. Looks are VEEEEERY important. This should be your 100% sole focus right now. Getting to where most girls would consider you at least a 7. | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Do confident men manage rejection like this?EXCELLENT nuanced point. Many guys conflate lack of approach anxiety/tolerance of rejection etc with confidence. Those things can help, but it's not a 1 for 1 exchange. | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Do confident men manage rejection like this?"There are a kind of people in this world called HSPs (highly sensitive people). Its a psychological condition so can't easily be changed" Thinking about this will hold you back in pickup. I'm not saying it's not true, but thinking about how sensitive you are or what label you have is detrimental to your mental health. It's also a subtle excuse for lack of results. "Well I'm highly sensitive, so it's fine it's taking me longer or it's fine that I reacted this way.". It gives you an out. By the w… | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Guaranteed signs of interestI only saw the title and was like "who the fuck cares about signs of interest" and was totally going to comment, then I read the post 🤣 agreed, just make the approach | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Men who are unsuccessful with women share two characteristics: they self-victimize and make excusesThat's how you do it, guys. Notice how she became reasonable and polite only AFTER I called her out. I was technically more mean in my second comment, but because I called her out and she knows now that her normal tricks won't work, she switched to normal convo. If I hadn't brought up all the ways she could respond, she would have continued her shaming. This is how you handle girls in real life as well. They only become reasonable/respect you AFTER you make it clear you're not putting up with th… | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 01:54 PM |
| 2 | Men who are unsuccessful with women share two characteristics: they self-victimize and make excusesHmm. 38, "curvy" (aka bare minimum chubby), single mom. Yep, I bet you're just beating guys off with a stick. You are zero percent the type of girl we are trying to get. Now what you'll do is respond with some attempt to shame or paint me in a bad light. Maybe you'll say I'm a loser with too much time on my hands because I looked through your post history. Maybe you'll say I'm defensive. Or that either no girl would want me (you already implied that, even though I literally coach guys on how to … | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 04:26 AM |
| 4 | Men who are unsuccessful with women share two characteristics: they self-victimize and make excusesYou are most likely unattractive. Unattractive girls have lower standards. We're trying to get the attractive girls. You flew halfway around the world to be with a short, fat, ugly guy. Only a very desperate girl would do that. | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 01:31 AM |
| 6 | I finally know what it feels like to touch and be wanted by a woman. Unreal experience.You won't go to prison for Soliciting sex in America. Or at least it's extremely rare. You'll spend the night in jail and get a fine. | /r/seduction | 11/10/22 10:43 AM |
| 11 | I finally know what it feels like to touch and be wanted by a woman. Unreal experience.I know this was a good experience for you and I'm glad that she made you realize you want to pursue women, but she was NOT genuinely into you. That's just part of the customer service experience. Guys are much more likely to spend more time and money on a girl if she can convince him she has genuine attraction. Also don't kiss strippers. Was kind of weird that you didn't want her to give you a blowjob since she might have done it earlier in the night, but you were fine kissing her. Still half-be… | /r/seduction | 11/10/22 10:38 AM |
| 2 | I’m confident in myself and feel like a total package man — but my marketing sucks.If you were like them, you would also have girls like them. Look at the results. There is something or multiple things you are doing/not doing that results in you not getting girls. Get rid of your ego. Reality doesn't care about your feelings. You can't stay the same and expect different results. Go ahead and stay "true to yourself" or however you want to phrase it. But then don't complain when being true to yourself doesn't get you laid or a relationship. | /r/seduction | 09/10/22 06:57 AM |
| 1 | I’m confident in myself and feel like a total package man — but my marketing sucks.Clown world 🤣 | /r/seduction | 08/10/22 04:32 PM |
| 1 | I’m confident in myself and feel like a total package man — but my marketing sucks.Yes that's exactly the problem. You don't want to make any changes about yourself. Thank you for admitting that. | /r/seduction | 08/10/22 03:31 PM |
| 0 | I’m confident in myself and feel like a total package man — but my marketing sucks.Read my reply to CometAzur42069. Go ahead and keep making excuses and lying, you're only hurting yourself. | /r/seduction | 08/10/22 01:07 AM |
| 2 | I’m confident in myself and feel like a total package man — but my marketing sucks.I'll tell you right now he's exaggerating. We've talked through private messages. He's changed things so many times in the public comments from what he says to me in private it's ridiculous. He's a time waster and excuse maker plain and simple. For instance, he said he approached 100 girls as an experiment one time and got rejected every time. No one gets rejected 100 times in a row. Some girls just give their number out of courtesy or to get you to go away. Also, approaching girls is hard when … | /r/seduction | 08/10/22 01:05 AM |
| 2 | What to do if you are left on read, have your messages not opened or are always the first one texting?Talk to other girls. If you don't have other girls, approach some. If you've done hundreds of approaches and gotten nothing, increase your SMV. | /r/seduction | 06/10/22 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Is daygame the best shot for non-toxic involuntary celibates?The advice you gave is 0% helpful to him because he doesn't have the looks or social skills required yet to even be able to get anything from night game or Day game. You need a certain base level of skills and attributes to be able to be effective with that. All I'm doing is letting him know that he has to have that baseline first before doing anything. | /r/seduction | 03/10/22 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Is daygame the best shot for non-toxic involuntary celibates?My take is based on coaching I've done with literally dozens of guys, either through FaceTime or in person. I've seen guys literally do hundreds or thousands of approaches and not get anything. Because they look bad and they have bad social skills. Yes there are plenty of average guys getting average girls, but the large majority of the time, those are situational or from some form of Social circle. It's clear in his post that he's not getting anything from Social circle, which means he has bad … | /r/seduction | 03/10/22 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Is daygame the best shot for non-toxic involuntary celibates?Self improvement and reality is a negative attitude. We really are living in a clown world. | /r/seduction | 03/10/22 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Is daygame the best shot for non-toxic involuntary celibates?You're not yet ready to practice because you don't have a good baseline of SMV. I'll break it down. "best shot for non-toxic" - just referring to yourself as non-toxic means you're a nice guy. Only nice guys ever say something like that. "involuntary celibates" - another word that no one in the real world uses. If you've gotten to the point where you refer to yourself with this label, you guaranteed look bad or socially unacceptable, or have bad social skills, or both. Your post is way too logic… | /r/seduction | 02/10/22 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Is daygame the best shot for non-toxic involuntary celibates?Are you in good shape, dress/groom well, have average to above average social skills, and have the ability to approach and physically escalate with women who are interested? Without those you won't get anything no matter what you do. | /r/seduction | 02/10/22 05:30 AM |
| 1 | Book recommendations on seduction?Came here to recommend this book as well, I knew someone probably already beat me to the punch. | /r/seduction | 30/09/22 08:05 PM |
| 1 | things were going great and I told her my love for herSo you guys weren't actually dating and you didn't sleep with her but you told her you have all these feelings for her? Not saying this in a negative way, just trying to understand the full scope of the situation. | /r/seduction | 29/09/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | How bad are making "cringe" jokes for fun?Do it anyway. Force yourself to be more expressive. You most likely are holding back and just don't know it. Most people are held back by insecurity/lack of confidence. Your lack of other is probably just that you mostly don't want to express yourself out of some kind of fear/insecurity. | /r/seduction | 22/09/22 02:20 PM |
| 1 | How bad are making "cringe" jokes for fun?The lack of expression/minimal body movement is the problem, not being too serious. You just need to learn to express yourself more physically and with your vocal tonality. | /r/seduction | 22/09/22 02:16 PM |
| 5 | How bad are making "cringe" jokes for fun?I understand, but the large majority of girls 0% like that stuff. I like stupid meme humor that needs like 10 years of meme knowledge and knowing obscure references and shit, but I literally never send memes to girls or talk about them in person. Girls are really bad with irony and sarcasm. If you say an awkward/weird joke, they will just think you're awkward and weird. | /r/seduction | 22/09/22 12:43 AM |
| 5 | How bad are making "cringe" jokes for fun?Girls don't like obscure, corny, or awkward humor large majority of the time. And really just most people in general think it's lame. That joke is objectively lame as fuck. | /r/seduction | 22/09/22 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Every time I message or DM a girl I never met in person she eventually loses interest and starts leaving me on read/being dryAnyone who's seeing this comment, remember it. She didn't respond because she's literally just trying to f*** with you and make it seem like you don't live up to her standards. This is standard for girls who have ego and insecurity issues. There was no point to this comment other than to make you feel like you are not good enough. This is standard female behavior. There's almost nowhere in the world where 5'9" is not considered at least average height. She knows that if she responds with literal… | /r/seduction | 19/09/22 06:55 AM |
| 2 | I pretty much only get a chance at fat women online. How do I upgrade?Yes 100%. You will get better results in the real world. But do not let this distract you from improving. Just you saying you could be leaner and fitter means you probably have at least 20 sounds of fat to lose. The shorter you are, the fitter you need to be. At 5'6" and being Indian, you need to be noticeably in shape compared to most guys. | /r/seduction | 19/09/22 01:57 AM |
| 2 | I pretty much only get a chance at fat women online. How do I upgrade?You are not attractive enough yet. Lose fat, build muscle, dress cool, groom yourself better. Also, cold approach. Every guy gets better results cold approaching than online. | /r/seduction | 19/09/22 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Every time I message or DM a girl I never met in person she eventually loses interest and starts leaving me on read/being dryWhere do you live? (Anticipating typical female non-response or generally vague) | /r/seduction | 18/09/22 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Every time I message or DM a girl I never met in person she eventually loses interest and starts leaving me on read/being dry"I do really well in person, but instead of just cold approaching more, I'm going to do online where guys always do worse. Oh and I'm going to take MONTHS to ask a girl out" "I'm really good at basketball. I can easily get a scholarship if I keep playing. But when I play tennis, which I'm not as good at, I get beat most of the time. How can I forgo my basketball scholarship and just get better at tennis?" I can't believe this is even a question. Just go out and cold approach. Everyone gets bette… | /r/seduction | 18/09/22 05:32 PM |
| 6 | Does day game/cold approaching work well because women aren't approached at all anymore outside of bars and apps?Dude, you need to work on your confidence. You DEFINITELY meet the looks threshold already to get good results from cold approaching. 100%. I've worked with dozens of guys and you would EASILY get laid on a consistent basis once you get over the initial learning curve of approaching. I know you most likely are already set in your mindset so you probably won't approach anyway, but you are definitely above average looking. | /r/seduction | 12/09/22 11:46 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I really really really hope you're not talking about the Julien Blanc thing. If you are, I'm going to just exit this convo because the circumstances around that have almost zero parallels to what we're talking about. The only similarity is they both have to do with pickup. That's like me talking about football and you bring up murder cases because they both have to do with OJ Simpson. I'm not even going to argue against you because the situation you're referring to is so wildly different from wh… | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 03:41 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)What an absolutely idiotic and ignorant comment. You used the old "if everyone did it, it would be bad" argument. "Imagine if every young guy out there was appraoching hundreds of women a month like you're doing it would be a national emergancy" "it simply isn't workable on a large scale." Yep, and if everyone decided to be a lawyer or a doctor or a rapper or a roofer or literally anything else, that would change the landscape drastically. Anytime everyone does a certain thing it's going to chan… | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 04:47 AM |
| 5 | How to get girls at college without playing sports?Jesus Christ dude, you want us to hold your dick while you pee as well? Do some research. Think of some ideas yourself. Go to Google and YouTube. Can already tell you're not gonna make it. So entitled and lazy. | /r/seduction | 02/09/22 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Am I Undateable/Unf**kable?You are the reason why I don't feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the dating life they want. You complain and whine and ask what's wrong with you and blah blah blah. And then you literally say "I'm overweight" (aka below average), have a decent job (meaning you make average money), a decent place to live (average), and have "interests and hobbies" (very vague but guaranteed they are not interesting to almost all women, so that's below average). You have LITERALLY nothing going for you. Liter… | /r/seduction | 01/09/22 04:15 PM |
| 24 | I'm not used to this level of interest from hotter girlsCope | /r/seduction | 31/08/22 04:28 PM |
| 1 | In a matter of 7 weeks I’ve asked 8 girls her phone numberHaha ok | /r/seduction | 22/08/22 07:16 AM |
| 1 | In a matter of 7 weeks I’ve asked 8 girls her phone numberYou don't even have a large enough sample size to say for sure that you need to change or improve anything. One approach a week is absolutely nothing. If I'm going out specifically to cold approach, I easily talk to 15 to 20 or sometimes up to 30 girls in a day. You really need to up your numbers. Like absolute bare minimum 50 in a week. | /r/seduction | 21/08/22 08:23 PM |
| 23 | I give upIt's all good, give up. The other guys who didn't will just get the women you want. No big deal. | /r/seduction | 19/08/22 11:26 PM |
| 2 | How do you develop truly genuine and unshakeable confidence?You be above average. Absolutely no way around it. Self improvement is always the answer to anything in life. | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 04:54 AM |
| 2 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)Yeah I'll write something up. Anything more specific about rejection you want in there? There's so many different things related to it so just want to know what direction to go with it. I can write about dealing with it and pushing through, but anything else you want in there? | /r/seduction | 15/08/22 08:05 PM |
| 2 | What's your response to this shit test? "You're not going to murder me are you?"Yeah this is important. It's not a s*** test. Just normal tension that sometimes happens in certain social situations. Too many guys interpret completely mundane things as s*** tests. | /r/seduction | 15/08/22 12:14 AM |
| 3 | What's your response to this shit test? "You're not going to murder me are you?"Haha that lent line is actually pretty good. | /r/seduction | 15/08/22 12:12 AM |
| 3 | What's your response to this shit test? "You're not going to murder me are you?"Sometimes they'll be like "oh really?". And I go "yeah first date I start off with some light identity theft. Second date is kidnapping. Then third date is usually the killing part". Just make sure to make it obvious you're joking. And I've actually had girls continue with the joke after the first date. Like leading up to second date, they'll text something like "so it's the second date, you're supposed to kidnap me right?". And I say something like "yeah I'm actually behind you right now". Ever… | /r/seduction | 15/08/22 12:11 AM |
| 4 | What's your response to this shit test? "You're not going to murder me are you?"Absolutely do not use that line. This is my go to response, haven't gotten a negative reaction from it yet. "Well I usually don't kill people till the third date, so you're good for now". Obviously say this in a jokey, lighthearted way. And then the girl either just laughs or continues with the joke and you can riff on that. Typical agree and amplify. | /r/seduction | 15/08/22 12:07 AM |
| 4 | What's your go to opener for approaching a girl on the street?"Hey excuse me" Wait for response/acknowledgement "You're really fucking cute" Yes I say "fucking" | /r/seduction | 11/08/22 12:57 AM |
| 2 | I get dates with way more attractive girls through cold approach than OLD. Am I just that unphotogenic?Yeah literally everyone gets better results offline. It's funny because not that long ago (I'm 34), online was seen as this scary place to meet people and there were stories about the Craigslist killer and there was a huge stigma to online dating. Now it's like people forgot that in-person is how people met for the previous 99.99% of human history. It's been over 3 years since I've done online. I haven't had to because I've gotten everything I need from daytime cold approach. | /r/seduction | 07/08/22 09:00 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hell on Reddit?AKA you're masculine That's like a guy saying "normally I'm feminine and submissive, unless a girl does the right thing, then I'm masculine" | /r/seduction | 06/08/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hell on Reddit?Women ON AVERAGE are bad leaders Women ON AVERAGE are much more insecure and powerless than the media would have you believe Women ON AVERAGE base most of their decisions primarily on emotions Women ON AVERAGE are worse than men at almost everything that is able to be CONCRETELY QUANTIFIED I can almost guarantee that even though I said ON AVERAGE and CONCRETELY QUANTIFIED, there will still be people who comment below this who give exceptions or outliers as examples to go against what I just said… | /r/seduction | 05/08/22 11:59 PM |
| 3 | I'm 21, started clubbing this year . I get approached a lot by woman on nightclubs but I lack the confidence to get "physical" , so they eventually go because they think I'm not interested ... Any advice?Nice 😎 | /r/seduction | 05/08/22 04:47 PM |
| 1 | do you ever just make it obvious you're into a girl instead of asking her out because you're scared of rejection?I don't even understand the point of this post. It basically comes down to "this girl and I texted for a bit". You didn't actually do anything and nothing actually happened. I just don't know what feedback you were expecting. | /r/seduction | 04/08/22 07:35 PM |
| 5 | What is it about Pete DavidsonIt's not conditioned, it's biological. Tall guys are more attractive because they are more intimidating and more likely to win in a fight. So women want their kids to be as tall as possible. | /r/seduction | 04/08/22 01:33 PM |
| 33 | What is it about Pete DavidsonYoung, tall, funny, rich, and famous. If he was the same person without the last 2, he most likely would have a hard time getting laid. | /r/seduction | 04/08/22 04:59 AM |
| 2 | Need advice: I got her number, setup a date for this weekend but she doesn’t know if she can make it. So what do I do with her number now. Just ask to hmu when she’s free or what?That's a flake. Just assume that the date is not happening and plan something else. Do not text her to see if the date is still on, that will make you look needy. She will text you if she can make it. If she texts super last minute and says the date is on, just say you already made plans. Again, just assume the date is not going to happen. | /r/seduction | 04/08/22 04:55 AM |
| 2 | Why is it only online dates that work out for meOk I'm gonna stop responding, you keep being very vague. It's clear you don't ACTUALLY care about fixing the problem, you just want people to comfort you and tell you everything gonna be ok. | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Why is it only online dates that work out for meYou're being extremely vague with your responses, which makes me think you're either overweight or there's some other huge problem you secretly know you should fix but have been avoiding. | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Why is it only online dates that work out for meJesus Christ you need to up your comprehension. I said IF you can't get the guys you want, it's because you're either not attractive (which is most likely), or you are a horrible person to be around. Obviously there's girls that are attractive and nice to be around, but those girls don't have much trouble dating, which is what this post is about. | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 12:39 PM |
| 0 | Why is it only online dates that work out for meYou're most likely just not attractive. Any girl can go on apps and get a whole bunch of guys wanting sex. It's not an accurate judgement of your actually attractiveness. Girls only need to remember 2 things when it comes to dating. If you're not getting what you want, it's because you're not attractive enough for those guys to try. If you are attractive, it's because you're a horrible person to be around. If you don't think you're a horrible person to be around, then it's because you're not att… | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 07:11 AM |
| 1 | How to keep going after cold approaching?Read my cold approach format post. | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 06:53 AM |
| 11 | Day 2 Of Cold Approach Journey: Confusion, Stupid Mistakes, Incremental Progress, and Changing My MindsetIt's awesome that you're actually getting out there and trying to approach. Most guys literally don't even try, so good job on that. But one thing I noticed is that you make a lot of justifications/excuses for things. I don't think you're doing it intentionally, you might truly think these are valid, but they are not. They are manifestations of your approach anxiety. "I was also busy thinking about something else, so my brain was not in the right mindset anyway." Excuse "My mind was really occup… | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 06:49 AM |
| 5 | What if heartbreak completely killed my desire to date/cold approach?This is just dumb infatuation. She probably also happened to be one of the most attractive girls you've been with too. | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 03:26 AM |
| 1 | What do you do if there is absolutely no reaction to your touch, and how to not over do touching?😒 | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 03:21 AM |
| 2 | What do you do if there is absolutely no reaction to your touch, and how to not over do touching?🤣 Jesus Christ, there's always one | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 03:19 AM |
| 3 | What do you do if there is absolutely no reaction to your touch, and how to not over do touching?This was a completely useless and vague comment. Make even worse by the random dumb poetry stuff. OP, do not listen to this advice(?) or whatever he thought this was. | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 03:15 AM |
| 2 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)I'm 34 and I still approach around college campuses sometimes. Just think of a logical excuse why you would be there. I personally don't approach on the actual campus most of the time, usually surrounding. But if you do on the campus, say your little brother is starting school there or something. Or you're looking into graduate degrees. And if you look young for your age, knock three or four years off. | /r/seduction | 02/08/22 12:25 AM |
| 2 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)Malls, college campuses, or make a list of different grocery and retail stores and make a circuit. Also Parks if you have a decent one. | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 11:22 PM |
| 2 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)Fuck yeah dude, glad to see you're making progress 😎 | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 05:59 PM |
| 10 | Where are these single women you guys cold approach to?You find them during the day. | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 07:13 AM |
| 2 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)If you read the article you would know that's not at all what I said. Man, I'm still not used to the absolute idiocy that is reddit. | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 07:02 AM |
| 2 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)You either didn't comprehend the article or you don't approach much. | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 04:57 AM |
| 1 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)What do you mean? | /r/seduction | 31/07/22 11:03 PM |
| 1 | If you could go back and tell your newbie dating self anything, what would it be?Get in the gym. This is my advice to everyone. | /r/seduction | 31/07/22 07:41 PM |
| 2 | 'Dating 10/10 model girl' - Girl night outs - what is acceptable and what is not.Unfortunately there's nothing you can do. Dating these types of girls comes with drawbacks, this is one of them. If you raise an issue about it, she will just see you as a person who's not letting her do what she wants and she'll find a guy who let's her do what she wants. The best mindset to have is that she is going to leave at some point. Just accept it. Eventually she'll get bored and find another guy and switch to him. Then she'll get bored of that guy and switch to another, until she decid… | /r/seduction | 31/07/22 01:49 AM |
| 2 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)100% agree, there are still definitely factors you can control. This post is mostly for beginners or people who have a tendency to overanalyze. It helps free up some mental load so they can get in a high volume of approaches so they have the chance to actually improve. I used to really internalize rejection and overthink every approach, so this mindset helped me get to the point I'm at now (almost 9000 approaches and 200+ lays). | /r/seduction | 31/07/22 01:41 AM |
| 3 | Does game beat anything?Heeeeeell no. 10 looks guy with 5 game will beat a 5 looks guy with 10 game almost every time. | /r/seduction | 30/07/22 11:49 PM |
| 4 | Is it weird to cold approach alone?Yeah it's pretty rare. Some girls are like "what the fuck, a guy is actually taking to me". It's even more rare during the day time. | /r/seduction | 30/07/22 11:45 PM |
| 1 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)Yeah definitely sounds like you know what you're talking about. It would probably be beneficial to the community to make some posts about your experience, I'd be interested to see some of your perspective. | /r/seduction | 30/07/22 10:11 PM |
| 1 | 😅 Most of the Outcome is Already Decided (So Relax)When I say that you can't really control your emotional state that much, I mean more about once the interaction has already started. Like you can change it to a certain degree, but if you still have approach anxiety, you still have approach anxiety. Main point with that was basically letting guys know that it's okay to feel a certain emotion and to not judge yourself too harshly as you are going through the process of improving. And then as far as the moment to moment, I agree it definitely does… | /r/seduction | 30/07/22 09:40 PM |
| 6 | Is it weird to cold approach alone?Not weird at all man. ALL the girls I've hooked up with (and 1 relationship) in the last 3 years have been from cold approach. I haven't used online the entire time. I haven't had to since cold approach allows you basically infinite options. | /r/seduction | 30/07/22 05:33 PM |
| 3 | Strategy: Why it's good to always start off as "friends"This is one of the worst pieces of advice I've seen on this subreddit. I'm not even going to do a breakdown. Anyone reading this, please completely ignore this post. | /r/seduction | 28/07/22 12:31 AM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Ahh yes, it was the number of approaches that got you. If it was lower, it totally wouldn't be creepy. What's the magic number of approaches I need to stay below so I'm no longer creepy? But you're right, total creep. I guess all the girls I've slept with and the 2 relationships I got from it totally all thought I was a creep. Yep, they had full relationships with me thinking I was a creep the whole time. And it's definitely not possible that I've been doing this for 7 years so 8000 approaches i… | /r/seduction | 26/07/22 03:34 PM |
| 2 | 📱Total's Texting Tutorial (with real convo examples)The only caveat to this is if you were really straight to the point and sexual on the approach. Then having a more straight to the point texting style would be congruent with the approach and keep the momentum of that going. But overall, yeah the fluff is a good general practice. | /r/seduction | 26/07/22 12:24 AM |
| 2 | 📱Total's Texting Tutorial (with real convo examples)Yeah I agree with this. The fluff mainly serves the purpose of letting the girl know you are normal and chill and you won't be a psychopath on the date. | /r/seduction | 26/07/22 12:22 AM |
| 1 | 📱Total's Texting Tutorial (with real convo examples)I've never tested this so I can't really give any feedback. I've had success up to this point without ever sending a picture. I could see how it could possibly give a minor increase in response rates from night time numbers, but during the day time definitely not and it would come across weird. Another thing to consider is that increased response rates don't necessarily transfer over into increased amount of girls that actually come out on a date. Like you can send something funny or really emot… | /r/seduction | 26/07/22 12:19 AM |
| 1 | honestly speaking, how is anyone supposed to be confident in this day and age?Ok, if you know your worth, why are you on a seduction forum? You either don't know your worth or your know your current worth is not enough to attract the girls you want. Sounds like you're coping because you don't want to improve yourself. That's fine, the guys who DO improve themselves will get the girls you want. | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 07:24 AM |
| 1 | honestly speaking, how is anyone supposed to be confident in this day and age?No not 2%, more like 15-20%>. But yes most men get treated worse. You can either complain about it or get in the top 20%. Literally no one cares either way. You have to be the one that cares. | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 05:32 AM |
| 1 | Why do you guys think most men struggle with girls or dating in general?What a loser answer. So you'd rather be ugly and out of shape instead of just ugly? K, have fun with that. Good body makes your face look better. | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Stop chasing and pick the women who choose youGod you think and talk like a woman. I didn't say you need to look like the hulk. I said you need to put on muscle and stop dressing like a dork. And then you said that extra muscle would get in the way of your climbing/running. So you made your choice. You decided that running/climbing is more important than attracting women. So you made your choice, why are you now still complaining? And then with how you dress, you made up an excuse for why how you dress is ok. So you say you don't know what … | /r/seduction | 24/07/22 05:15 PM |
| 0 | Stop chasing and pick the women who choose youOh my God, dude, yes you do. I already told you but you thought of an excuse for everything I said. | /r/seduction | 24/07/22 02:34 PM |
| 3 | honestly speaking, how is anyone supposed to be confident in this day and age?They don't. They either become above average in some way or deal with worse treatment their whole life. No way around it. | /r/seduction | 24/07/22 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Do you call woman cute?And yes I get laid all the time from cold approach, night and day. Can send proof pics anytime. Doubt you can do the same. | /r/seduction | 23/07/22 04:55 AM |
| 10 | Do you call woman cute?We found the bitter insecure guy 🤣 | /r/seduction | 23/07/22 04:52 AM |
| 3 | Do not ditch OLD. It’s better than Cold approach.I shouldn't even take the time to respond to this because it's clear you didn't actually read and understand my comment, but I will anyway. "There’s so many hot girls on OLD wdym." There's a difference between amount of hot girls and amount of hot girls you actually sleep with. OBVIOUSLY there's hot girls online, there's hot girls everywhere. But how many do guys actually sleep with? Not many. And if you want, we can compare the attractiveness of the girls I've slept with from CA and the girls y… | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 10:55 PM |
| 11 | Why do you guys think most men struggle with girls or dating in general?The REAL answer is that most guys just don't have a high SMV. Physical SMV specifically. In America, the average guy is overweight, dresses like shit, does next to nothing grooming wise, is physically weak, etc. Not to mention just not being above average in pretty much any other way. Only the top 30% percent of guys will do decently, and the top 20% are the only ones who mostly won't struggle. | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 06:51 PM |
| 1 | I f***king love rejection.Still waiting on that pic. You could easily look up on Google how to do it. But you won't. Because you secretly know it's your looks. This is what I mean when I say you already know what the problem is. | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 12:32 AM |
| 5 | Do not ditch OLD. It’s better than Cold approach.Once again, "probably". And you're saying OLD is more efficient on time, but you haven't compared time it takes to get laid from approaching and time it takes to get laid from swiping/having multiple convos/increased flake rates online etc. And you haven't compared the attractiveness of girls online to girls offline as well. I know several guys who do both (night and day game), and literally every single one gets hotter girls from cold approach. I have a feeling you never truly got good at cold … | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 12:30 AM |
| 9 | Do not ditch OLD. It’s better than Cold approach.So you use one single example, where the girl was someone in your extended social circle, to "prove" that OLD is better? When you cold approached, did you actually do high volume or did you not get great at it? I have literally NEVER met a single person who got good at online AND cold approach, who said that online was better. If you had some type of data to go off (like how many approaches you did, how many lays you got, average attractiveness of the girl, amount of time invested vs the same fo… | /r/seduction | 21/07/22 11:22 PM |
| 2 | I f***king love rejection.You already dodged the question of if you're above average looking, which means you're not. If you were, you'd be fine sending pics so I could assess. So that's your first problem is your looks. Your second problem is you lie to yourself. You KNOW you don't look above average, deep down. But you don't change it. Also, you don't actually want to change who you are to get rid of your anxiety. | /r/seduction | 19/07/22 02:09 AM |
| 5 | 📱Total's Texting Tutorial (with real convo examples)I used to do straight to the point texting and my rate of girls who actually came out on dates increased noticeably when I started implementing the fluff. Not sure the exact reason, but based on the large data pool I have, the fluff is better. | /r/seduction | 19/07/22 12:49 AM |
| 1 | How do I fight the overwhelming urge to reply to texts immediately?The advice isn't "don't be anxious", it's "just wait to text back". I never said you can't be anxious. I'm saying the anxiety doesn't matter. You say it's an overwhelming urge to text back. It's not. You just don't have any discipline. Just don't do it. Plenty of other people want to text back just as much as you, but they just don't do it. Honestly not sure what the problem is. Just don't text back quickly. Not sure how you were able to misinterpret what I said even though I explained it in 2 e… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 10:06 PM |
| 2 | I f***king love rejection.This is one of the absolute dumbest comments I've seen on this sub. Cannot believe someone actually took the time to type out this stupid shit. "Stop being a clown, no likes rejection" Yeah it's not AT ALL possible that OP is speaking in slight hyperbole and is just trying to get a general point across right? No definitely not. Everything anyone types on the internet is to be taken 100% literally. "The point is to get over it and continue to approach until you meet one that has potential" He did… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 07:49 PM |
| 1 | I f***king love rejection.That means you're not. DM me some pictures and I'll let you know if you are. But I have a feeling you already secretly know what you need to change and just don't want to do it. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 07:35 PM |
| 1 | How do I fight the overwhelming urge to reply to texts immediately?How is this possibly a bad take? You know it's the wrong thing to. You've gotten negative feedback from it in the past. All you have to do to not do it, is literally nothing. Yet you still still do it. Am I missing something? You're being a baby. Stop being a baby. This is the easiest possible situation in the world. Just don't fucking do it. You should be angry at yourself for not being able to do such a simple thing that I had to call you out on it. Grow some fucking nuts dude. "Oh my God anxi… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Introverts, what's your strategy?You need to emulate extroverted behavior. You'll never be able to fully overcome your introvert tendencies. You mostly likely didn't try very hard when you tried earlier. That's what I did. I'm naturally introverted. I "tried" to me more extroverted, but really my heart wasn't in it and it was really half ass attempts. I knew deep down I didn't want to do it. So just emulate extroverted people. Try REALLY hard. Way harder than you did last time. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 06:55 PM |
| 3 | what are reasons you should date multiple women at once?Better question, why not? Serious question. Outside of some vague moral "it just feels wrong", there's no actual good answer. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 06:49 PM |
| 1 | How do I fight the overwhelming urge to reply to texts immediately?Just stop doing it. Stop with all this "omg it's so hard anxiety feelings blah blah" you know it's the wrong thing to do, so just stop doing it. Be a fucking man, Jesus Christ. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 06:39 PM |
| 4 | How do you talk to ‘basic’ girls?3 things 1) Ask questions. When they answer, ask follow up questions or pick a random word/thought in her response and ask about that. 2) Be fine talking more about yourself and going on long ass rants. Shy/quiet girls usually like it when a guy does all the talking. Don't look for equal input or use her lack of contributing to convo as lack of interest. She's probably just shy or boring. 3) Be fine with silence sometimes. Sometimes there's just nothing to say. I've gone on plenty of dates where… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Read her responses carefully guys. Who would you rather take advice from? I'll rest my case from here 😎 | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 06:45 PM |
| 2 | She is the one who texts me, but it takes hours to answer me.She's playing with you. She texts you when she needs an ego boost and validation, and then gets off not responding. And then she texts you out of nowhere and you still respond, giving her another ego boost. This is blatant disrespect. She loves the fact that she can completely disrespect you and you still respond. It reinforces her status. Next time she texts you, DO NOT RESPOND! Leave her on read. She will message you again at some point after that and when she does, give a very short and neutr… | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)"That's a 0.00025% success rate." That's for relationships. Not hookups, FWB, etc, of which there are much much more. "but this is an approach that turns off MOST women." It doesn't. I have much more REAL WORLD data than you. It doesn't. "but in a best case scenario we know these approaches are for sex and we're out here just trying to live our lives." Just because I personally mostly use it for sex doesn't mean every guy will. I coached a guy through this exact format and he's been in a relatio… | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 04:42 PM |
| 7 | Talking to girls update! July 10-15Nice dude. You have arrived at the promise land. Getting good at cold approach means you will never be without options ever. | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 01:49 PM |
| 2 | I knew about cold approach for 10 years and 10 weeks ago, I finally decided to start!Thank you for posting this. I love seeing guys taking action and actually changing things 💪 | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 01:46 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Let's see what other generic internet opinion you can throw out. It's Saturday so I got time to dismantle them. | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 01:26 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)"You know women are wary of men, because they are brutalized by them constantly and don't WANT a strange man talking to them" In the real world, not online, this happens way less than you think. Approaches happen in the real world. "The worst part is the "sorry if this is random", but you're not sorry and it's random because we don't know each other and it's nice guy energy." Yeah, it's not like I'm trying to emphasize by acknowledging it's random. Yeah definitely not that. It's total "nice guy … | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 01:15 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I completely respect your decision to think it's weird. I even said in the post that sometimes you'll get bad reactions. So you would be one of those bad reactions. So I would respect your wishes and walk away and talk to another girl who doesn't think it's weird. No hard feelings. | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 01:11 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)"If your entire focus is finding another body to stick yourself in and discard, then sure, try this I suppose." You heard it here guys, it works! 🤣 There's plenty of girls out there who also want a guy to stick something in them as well. Don't let her fool you. Just another example of a woman shaming men for wanting sex. Also I'm sure you'll say something about how I'm not in relationships with those girls anymore because blah blah blah. I'm self employed so I've lived in different cities. The o… | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 01:09 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)😂 yeah definitely haven't gotten 2 relationships from doing this. And definitely haven't been with women ranging from lower 20's to upper 30's doing this. And definitely haven't gone on dates with girls who I've approached with their headphones in. Yep, all those women don't exist. Yes, maybe YOU'VE never once been interested, but there's plenty of girls out there who are. You don't speak for all women. Not all women are as scared and resentful as you. And they don't automatically have negative … | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 01:03 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)K | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 04:05 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Really hope this was meant to be a joke | /r/seduction | 15/07/22 10:23 PM |
| 4 | In the process of flirting, how do I avoid dropping into asking questions?This guy doesn't talk to women much. This is a completely unrealistic and weird conversation. Everyone reading please disregard his comment. | /r/seduction | 15/07/22 07:56 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Anywhere. There's no place that's really easier or harder, you can literally do it anywhere. | /r/seduction | 15/07/22 08:47 AM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)😂 so scared | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 08:05 PM |
| 1 | What are some funny lines I can use when joking about my shory height?Wow you really just said height, muscles, and wealth are superficial | /r/seduction | 13/07/22 09:37 AM |
| 2 | What are some funny lines I can use when joking about my shory height?Yeah but you could frame anything like that. Obviously if a guy is maxed out in one thing but absolutely sucks in another, he won't have good results in anything in life. But two guys who have equal charisma, confidence, lifestyle etc, and one is 6 inches taller, the taller guy will have better results. I'm not saying to use height as an excuse to not take action, but thinking that height is arbitrary is just in denial of reality. | /r/seduction | 13/07/22 07:19 AM |
| 1 | What are some funny lines I can use when joking about my shory height?Or if someone mentions it you could go absurd and just say "oh my God are you a heightist? I didn't know you were a bigot" obviously said in a jokey way. | /r/seduction | 13/07/22 02:43 AM |
| 1 | What are some funny lines I can use when joking about my shory height?There's literally no reason to ever bring it up on your own. Even if you make light of it, bringing it up out of nowhere will come off as insecure. | /r/seduction | 13/07/22 02:41 AM |
| 2 | What are some funny lines I can use when joking about my shory height?Ok I'm all about improvement and not letting things get you down and pushing through and all that, but let's not kid ourselves. Being short is a disadvantage. Doesn't mean you can't compensate and push through, but yes it is a disadvantage. Plenty of girls don't mind as much, but let's be realistic. No need to not live in reality. | /r/seduction | 13/07/22 02:39 AM |
| 1 | Competing with other men (AMOG), what to do?I think we might just be imagining different scenarios. I see what you're saying and that could work in a certain scenario, but in another scenario and another context, what I'm saying is also valid. Things like this are so context dependent that I don't think we'd be able to come to a really solid conclusion unless we had a lot more details from the poster. | /r/seduction | 13/07/22 12:03 AM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)This is the perfect encapsulation of the female mindset 😂 | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 05:25 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)"Women are not entitled to not be disturbed? So you are basically approving of harassment from this sentence alone." How do you get that from what I said. Nobody is entitled to not feeling uncomfortable sometimes. That's life. Guys feel uncomfortable plenty, but we have to deal with it. The girl could walk away at any point. Her being too nervous to do that is not the guys fault. I've had plenty of girls just say "I'm not interested" and I leave. Or girls that just ignore me and leave. But I've … | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 05:17 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)So you're saying only insecure girls would appreciate this? I guess this girl who commented is super insecure then. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/vijkxl/comment/if7zp2x/ | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 05:06 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I am. Some girls like my behavior and some girls don't. If I cold approach a thousand girls and literally none of them wanted to date with me, I could see your point. But I have had plenty of dates and relationships and hookups and friends with benefits and all that other stuff that you could think of. So how can you say that I'm not being socially aware of my behavior when my behavior is positively rewarded time and time again? | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 04:59 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yikes, I'm truly glad that not every woman in the world has your mentality. So insecure and resentful. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 04:57 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with this sub recently? We are here for seduction strategies and self-improvement, aren't we? Instead, most guys here seems to hide behind a screen (OLD, Insta, ...) and talk sh*t about traditional approaching.Do you think girls are stupid? Almost 100% of girls, if you hit on them and ask them out for a drink, they know you are trying to sleep with them. A girl would have to be extremely dumb and naive to not think that. But also, I'm not advocating for guys to make girls do anything they don't want to do. I don't tell guys to force girls to go back to their place. I tell them to ask. I'm not sure how that could possibly be leading a girl on. Some girls want a relationship, some girls just want sex, s… | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)"Not to mention if you are doing this to someone with anxiety or social awkwardness, to then have to reject someone because you don't want to give your number out to a stranger is very difficult." Why is the girls level of anxiety in my problem? | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 03:49 PM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)"As a male you have no right to comment how this makes women feel." I can actually comment on whatever I feel like. You don't have to like it, but I'm able to do it. "But I promise you 95% of men who approach a female whilst they are minding their own business with rehearsed/generic lines will be invading their safe space and business." Just wrong. You're basing that on yourself and women YOU'VE interacted with. I've talked to more girls than you, so I know better than you on this situation. "To… | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 03:48 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with this sub recently? We are here for seduction strategies and self-improvement, aren't we? Instead, most guys here seems to hide behind a screen (OLD, Insta, ...) and talk sh*t about traditional approaching."Why is everything on your reddit about fucking girls? And how often you get laid?" Because I'm an up and coming dating coach and I only made this account to post on dating related things. "You seem to view women as your play time fun and their opinions and views mean nothing" So when a girl sleeps with me fully understanding that it's just a casual thing, is she not also using me for playtime fun? I only ever engage with girls who also want to engage with me. I don't manipulate or lead the girl… | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 03:36 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I didn't "try it" 8000 times. I've done over 8000 approaches and gotten more than 200 lays over the past 7 years from it. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 01:44 PM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Haha darn, I guess the two relationships and several FWBs I've gotten from doing this totally thought I was creepy 😂 Once again guys, this is why you don't take dating advice from women | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 01:31 PM |
| 5 | How do I make my boyfriend more sexually interested in me?One additional comment I will make, and this will seem counter-intuitive, is to actually not be too pushy for sex. If he is already tired and stressed from work and everything, sometimes just the mental and physical energy it would take to have sex can add additional stress. Been times where you have been in a certain mood and you didn't want to have sex for whatever reason, that's exactly how he feels. And if when you were in that mood, he tried to be pushy about it, even if he was doing it in … | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 01:28 AM |
| 5 | How do I make my boyfriend more sexually interested in me?Stress, bad sleep, new responsibility of baby. 2 of my sisters went through this as well. It passes eventually. Men usually don't feel better when they're "consoled" or are given emotional support, they feel better when the situation is fixed. So until he gets to a point where he is just less stressed, this will be ongoing. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 12:21 AM |
| 0 | Better quality girls from cold approach then onlineGreat long-winded way of saying, no I don't have any proof for any of the things I just said. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Better quality girls from cold approach then onlineAnticipating either some version of "I'm not in contact with him anymore" or "lulz I don't need to prove anything" or something about limiting beliefs or how I don't have game so I can't imagine a 2 hooking up with a 10. So weird how everyone who makes outrageous claims like this never have any proof. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Better quality girls from cold approach then onlineIf you could DM me pics to prove what you say, I will publicly retract my statement and apologize. Anticipating some excuse for not having pics even though he was your mentor and supposedly hooked up on the regular with 10's so he or you would have at least some pics. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Better quality girls from cold approach then onlineOk I agree that you get hotter girls from cold approach than online, but you don't have to lie. Your 2/10 friend has not gotten 9s and 10s. We don't need to be creating unrealistic expectations here. Physical attraction is very important. A 2/10 guy would be like 50 pounds overweight, ugly, very short, etc. No self respecting girl who has options would sleep with him. Do you have any pics of the guy or girls he's hooked up with. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 09:49 PM |
| 2 | Im unsure about the next dateTelling a girl you're a virgin is the equivalent of a girl trying you she's slept with 200 guys. It might not KILL things, but it's a huge red flag. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Im unsure about the next dateI'm all about honesty to a certain point. There's no reason to bring up that he's inexperienced. Even if it's brought up, just do a small lie. You can be honest about everything else, but a guy that is a virgin at 27 will REALLY make her view you in a different way. And there's a high likelihood that the convo will then start to focus on that. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 09:41 PM |
| 2 | Without paying, what do you think is the fastest method to get laid in 2022?Just asking this question shows you do not have the long term, improvement oriented mindset required to hook up with girls on a consistent basis. Pick something (online, Nightgame, Daygame) and get good at it. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 09:23 PM |
| 1 | If attraction is non negotiable, what's the fastest way to find out if there is mutual attraction?The only way to TRULY know is to escalate and find out | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 09:18 PM |
| 2 | When you’re trying to bring a girl home with you and she asks you “what are we gonna do?”, what’s a good answer?Ideally you would have seeded the pull earlier in the date. Then just mention that thing. Ask her back to your place with the thing you mentioned. Don't just say come back to my place. If she seems hesitant, say "well we can just (insert thing you said) for a little bit and then you can leave whenever. I have to be up in the morning anyway". | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 03:14 AM |
| 4 | 2 dates from cold approachesDON'T DO DINNER! Only drinks. The date goes on way too long and usually falls into friendly territory and the girl usually feels bloated/fat/uncomfortable from the food which means she doesn't feel sexy which means she won't hook up. And then she'll transfer that negative feeling onto you and be much less likely to see you in the future. Obviously there's exceptions, but this is true the large majority of the time. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 01:06 AM |
| 3 | this sub proves that only 2% of men actually practice daygame consistentlyYeah I'm glad everyone doesn't do it and so many guys are scared. More girls for me. Every single reason I've ever seen for why cold approach is bad/ineffective/whatever is just an excuse because they don't want to get over approach anxiety. I'm glad I took the time to get good at it. I will literally never be without options no matter where I am. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 01:04 AM |
| 4 | Started out confident, but now feel more insecureActually you should feel inadequate. That's a sign you need to change something. If you are short you can't be skinny also. The shorter you are, the wider you need to be and the more alpha/masculine/dominant you need to be. I've mentioned this in other comments. My roommate is a 5'5" Indian dude and used to be pretty skinny. He put on 20 pounds of muscle, started dressing cool and edgy with accessories and shit, and started doing boxing to help become more masculine and dominant. He went from no… | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 12:51 AM |
| 4 | How did men back in the days get women when they were a simp?Because they were masculine while doing all those things. You can "simp" to a certain degree if you're masculine and high value. | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 12:46 AM |
| 17 | Where do I meet women if I’m not into clubbing or dating apps?Daytime cold approach | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Her text read “stop by & crack this pussy open like Humpty Dumpty lol” & I’m starting to catch feelings ..😂 God I really hope you're a woman, can't imagine any guy actually saying this sentence | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Competing with other men (AMOG), what to do?Well I'm a big guy so it works for me. When I say friendly, I don't mean like hyper beta super friendly. I mean just just not insanely confrontational and aggressive, but still assertive and holding your ground. | /r/seduction | 10/07/22 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Competing with other men (AMOG), what to do?Well how to deal with an amog is completely situational. Usually in daytime scenarios guys are a little less aggressive. Obviously the more aggressive the guy is, the more aggressive and straight to the point you would have to be. But I promise you this is a good way of dealing with them, I do some variation of this all the time. | /r/seduction | 10/07/22 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Competing with other men (AMOG), what to do?Yeah that could work too. It's all situational and dependent on how much time you have. | /r/seduction | 10/07/22 12:09 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Shanks brah | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 11:23 PM |
| 2 | is no contact a good seduction method when dating?No contact only had an effect of she's already heavily invested in you. Like you guys are practically dating. If she's not invested, then there's no reason for her to care that you don't contact her that much. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 11:04 PM |
| 2 | I now see the problem with GROUP DATES! - How do you guys read this?Any date where you don't have a good chance of escalating and pulling is not a date with going on. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | I now see the problem with GROUP DATES! - How do you guys read this?Never go on a date where she brings her friend. If she insists, just don't go on the date. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 10:53 PM |
| 5 | Competing with other men (AMOG), what to do?Engage and be friendly with the guy and have a short convo with him. Make him engage YOU. Then while it's "your turn" to talk, switch back to talking to the girl and get the number. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 10:52 PM |
| 5 | My experience dating Instagram models: DO NOT BE FOOLEDI dont even know, I read it in a magazine somewhere. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 11:53 AM |
| 1 | How Does An Average Guy Get Women?Well had to delete the post and my comments because someone came in already with a combative and negative mindset and started talking about certain stuff and I don't know what's acceptable to the mods. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 10:32 AM |
| 1 | I almost did my first cold approach today.Great cope. I definitely don't own a business, travel, go to the gym, hang out with friends, play video games, etc. Yep I must just only cold approach. Definitely not possible for someone to get good at something unless it's the only thing they have going on their life. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 10:08 AM |
| 2 | How Does An Average Guy Get Women?I mean that could work for "decent" girls (I'm assuming you mean 6's and lower), but for the attractive girls, you need to actually be above average in some way. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 07:53 AM |
| 4 | Tip for Ghosting: Monitor your day dreamsAdditional tip. Have so many numbers and girls you're seeing that you don't care if any individual girl ghosts. How do you get a bunch of numbers consistently? Cold approach. How do you be effective at cold approach? Improve your looks and start going to meetups to work on your social skills. Then start approaching girls. Only true way for ghosting to not affect you is actually having options. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 07:50 AM |
| 2 | My experience dating Instagram models: DO NOT BE FOOLEDPM me. Don't think I'm able to post pics in a comment thread. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 06:53 AM |
| 4 | My experience dating Instagram models: DO NOT BE FOOLEDYes you do need to look above average, but the level of looks required is lower than what most guys think. You just need to look above average, so like a 7, you don't need to be a Scandinavian 6'4 underwear model. Like I said in my other comment, my roommate is 5'5 and Indian and he just pulled a hot blonde college cheerleader last week and hooked up. From cold approach. You can DM me and I will send confirmation pics of him and the girl at our place. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 06:02 AM |
| 5 | My experience dating Instagram models: DO NOT BE FOOLEDYou don't need to be seriously handsome, but you do need to at least look above average. My roommate is a 5'5 Indian software engineer who was a virgin until he was 25 and he just hooked up last weekend with a blonde college cheerleader. He's been going to the gym and put on about 20 lb and he has been working on his confidence and ability to escalate and pull and he dresses cool and edgy with accessories and stuff. The amount of looks that are required to be successful with cold approach are se… | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 06:00 AM |
| 1 | What's wrong with me? Missed 3 opportunities yesterday!You need to stop being a coward. There's no mental hack. There's no reframing. You are just giving into your fear. Go ahead and keep doing that while another guy who feels the exact same feeling as you just decides to do it anyway and gets the girls you want. Every guy feels anxiety or tension or fear, some guys just do it anyway and they reap the benefits. No easy Way out. You just have to be a man. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 05:17 AM |
| 2 | why is it bad to be an emotional sponge?You need to look at everything through the lens of a guy who has options. Let's say you had 30 different girls who were interested in you and you were trying to sleep with. Or you were already sleeping with some of them. Would you really be willing to listen to 30 different girls talk about their problems to you? No. You would probably only interact with the girls who were easy going or you would just straight up ignore the girls who talked too much about their problems. Being an emotional spong… | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 05:15 AM |
| 1 | I almost did my first cold approach today.Completely untrue. I have gotten all my lays for the past 3 years exclusively from cold approach. Not sure why you would think it's only for a conversation skills. And if a guy is bad at it, the only way to get better is to do it more. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 05:12 AM |
| 1 | I almost did my first cold approach today.Yes aaaaaallll the time. On a side note, if you are insecure about your looks, you probably need to improve your looks. If you can't look at the mirror and confidently say that you look above average, you need to improve your looks. You don't need to be a model, you just need to be what the majority of women would consider at least a 7. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 05:10 AM |
| 2 | If I just sit in a busy park for hours on end, why can't I attract women?I am not saying this to be a dick, but I do not understand this post at all. Are you asking why stuff doesn't just happen to you when you leave the house? You have to actually approach girls and make stuff happen in order for stuff to happen. Do you expect a girl or random people to just come up to you and randomly start talking? | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 05:08 AM |
| 2 | How do I move forward in this situation?Only skimmed. She's not interested. Doesn't matter what you do | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 05:04 AM |
| 2 | Advice for dating/meeting not at the bar/club/dating apps?Daytime cold approach. Look at my recent posts. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 05:02 AM |
| 1 | How to not feel depressed after an unsuccessful night out?You're probably just not actually escalating and actually going for the pull. I escalate and try to pull pretty much every girl I have an interaction with. If you're going out to sleep with girls, you have to actually try to sleep with them. The ability to escalate and actually ask the girl back to your place is the single most important thing you can do at night. So if you are not actually escalating and actively trying to sleep with her, then that's probably your problem. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 04:59 AM |
| 1 | When you’re trying to bring a girl home with you and she asks you “what are we gonna do?”, what’s a good answer?Jesus Christ, the women's responses to this question are exactly why you don't take dating advice from women. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 04:41 AM |
| 6 | When you’re trying to bring a girl home with you and she asks you “what are we gonna do?”, what’s a good answer?Anyone reading this, don't do this. This girl is the exception I promise. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 04:39 AM |
| 5 | When you’re trying to bring a girl home with you and she asks you “what are we gonna do?”, what’s a good answer?Don't say this line. This is one step below just saying "we're gonna fuck" | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 04:38 AM |
| 6 | When you’re trying to bring a girl home with you and she asks you “what are we gonna do?”, what’s a good answer?I understand your logic, but if you guys haven't hooked up yet, it's a bad move. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 04:35 AM |
| 6 | When you’re trying to bring a girl home with you and she asks you “what are we gonna do?”, what’s a good answer?Have tested this, most girls think it's weird. It actually makes her more uncomfortable and I had lower pull rates when I did this (did this for about a 12-15ish date streak, about half the girls were visibly uncomfortable or very leery of the situation). | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 04:34 AM |
| 13 | My experience dating Instagram models: DO NOT BE FOOLEDAnd yeah, there's PLENTY of girls out there that are just as attractive that are normal and have normal lives. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 03:33 AM |
| 26 | My experience dating Instagram models: DO NOT BE FOOLEDThis is why Cold approach is so awesome. You catch girls when they are just outliving their everyday lives. I hooked up with a few girls wear later I got their Instagram and it turns out that they have a shitload of followers and post all these sexy pics and their online persona is way different. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 03:31 AM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah sometimes logistics just don't work in your favor. That's a situation where you'd have to focus more on social circle stuff. | /r/seduction | 09/07/22 01:01 AM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)True, anyone who actually cares about getting laid and having abundance will move to a big city. Or they'll do what most guys do and come up with excuses about why they can't move or it's not worth it to move just to fuck girls. It's like, ok cool you're entitled to think that, but then don't complain that you can't get laid. By the way this isn't directed towards you, just speaking in generalities. | /r/seduction | 08/07/22 10:33 PM |
| 2 | What's wrong with this sub recently? We are here for seduction strategies and self-improvement, aren't we? Instead, most guys here seems to hide behind a screen (OLD, Insta, ...) and talk sh*t about traditional approaching."& literally the worst suggestions (like cold approaching random women)" Damn, I must just be super amazing then, considering I've gotten dozens and dozens of lays from "literally the worst suggestion" of cold approaching random women during the day. And almost 100% of the knowledge I used to get that was from men. Didn't realize I was working at such a disadvantage 🤣 I have maybe gotten 2 or 3 good pieces of advice in my life from women that actually helped me get women. Pretty much everything … | /r/seduction | 08/07/22 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Hot wing? Or rolling solo?But to answer your question directly, 50 per week. Weekly goal since Sunday you just might not be able to make any approaches. Also it's a generally better to do a high amount of approaches over a few days instead of a low amount of approaches spread out over a lot of days. | /r/seduction | 08/07/22 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Hot wing? Or rolling solo?For the last 6ish months I've only been doing about 20-25 approaches per week because I've been focusing on other stuff. But I used to do anywhere from 50-100 (usually around 60-70) for about a year and a half period. I think the absolute bare minimum bottom of the barrel practically not even trying amount of volume a guy should do to see any decent results is 20 a week. That's less than 3 per day with no additional approach sessions. If a guy told me he's doing less than 20 a week, that would b… | /r/seduction | 08/07/22 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Hot wing? Or rolling solo?I just do it Both Look for my next approach or do random fun stuff at the different bars (karaoke, arcade games, pool, skee ball, mechanical bull, whatever). Once you get good enough at approaching they all just string together so you're not "waiting" for the next approach, you just do whatever you want until you see another girl. "My friends have work in the morning so they left like lame asses." Daygame 100% | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 11:00 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Thank you for the comment and validating that approaching (and direct approach specifically) is totally fine. There's too many people saying that the girl will be "creeped out" or you'll be charged with harassment or that you shouldn't approach directly. Moochass grassy ass. | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 06:22 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)🙏 | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 06:08 PM |
| 5 | How do i get the confidence to start approaching?You don't get the confidence before you approach, the confidence comes as a result of approaching. You will be weird and unconfident and awkward when you first start, just like with any other skill in the world. But slowly as you get better, your competence will increase, which will then increase your confidence. Asking how to get the confidence to start approaching is like asking how to get strong before you start lifting weights. | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 11:18 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)You can do the indirect opening, but you don't need to ask that follow-up question. You can literally just do the indirect opening and then once you get the directions or whatever, say that that was just an excuse and that you thought she was cute. | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)8/10, muscular, 5'11", dark tight fitting clothing with accessories I have a pic of my in my numbers game post | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesBut what do you mean by success rate? Like what's the metric? I use the metric of time invested per lay. For daytime cold approach, my TIL is about 4 hours. My TIL for Nightgame is about 8 hours. And my TIL for Daygame is just if I do actual approach sessions. If I only do approaches while I'm out and about already doing something, my TIL is reduced by more than half (because I'm not wasting time in between approaches just walking around). So 2 hours of interaction to get one lay is not bad, and… | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 03:22 PM |
| 3 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesAlso, girls generally only know their own preferences and maybe the preferences of some girls they hang out with. But they don't know the preferences of women in general. Also, girls come up with all types of excuses and exceptions in their head for different situations. Like how most girls will say that they've never done a one-night stand or maybe they've only done it once, even though the large majority of girls have done a one-night stand and have done it more than once. Women will come up w… | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 03:04 PM |
| 3 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesExactly, you don't want to shame guys who might think they aren't attractive. So you not wanting to make the guys feel bad gets in the way of you giving good objective advice. That is just one of why getting advice from women about dating is usually a bad idea. You don't know whether their advice is genuine or whether they are just trying to make you not feel bad, or if their advice is for attractive people or not attractive people, or if their advice is geared toward the specific type of relati… | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 03:02 PM |
| 4 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesNo I'm not a natural. I'm attractive because I went to the gym consistently and changed my style. And I'm funny and good at talking to women because I cold approached a bunch and worked on it. But you actually just inadvertently proved my point with your comment. You basically just acknowledged that if a guy is attractive enough, and good enough at talking with women, that he doesn't need your advice. So why wasn't your advice to become more attractive and get better at talking with women? | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 02:57 PM |
| 2 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesSo I understand why you would think that you would have good advice, but it's just not the case. It's kind of hard to explain without coming off as somewhat condescending, but women really mostly don't understand themselves (at least when it comes to dating/attraction). Guys will give dating advice, and then girls will come in and say "no that won't work" for whatever reason, but yet when men follow dating advice from other men, it tends to work and when they follow it from women, it tends to no… | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 02:44 PM |
| 4 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesThe reason why women can't give men advice is because it's completely different roles with different skillets. It would be like a goalie telling a kicker how to score. And then the goalie saying "well I block shots all the time so I know!". No, you don't. You know how to block shots, not make them. | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 02:16 PM |
| 4 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesYou know how to flirt as a woman. Completely different as a guy. Guys are always leading the interaction, making it easy for the woman to do things, facilitating certain things happening, etc. A woman's entire conception of how dating works is because men made everything happen. Anytime you thought something "just happened" or "it was natural" was because the guy did such a good job that he made it seem that way. | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 02:11 PM |
| 18 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesJesus Christ most of these commenters are just insecure, have approach anxiety/are scared, think they're gonna get the cops called on them for complimenting a girl, and/or have never cold approached and so they're thinking of reasons why it can't work out. Keep doing it. I cold approach all the time and get laid from it all the time. It's not creepy. It's not socially uncalibrated. Just do it. If it was that bad, I wouldn't have dozens and dozens of lays from it and 2 relationships out of it pre… | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 02:08 PM |
| 3 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesThis is why you never take advice from women about dating, especially an older married woman who's been out of the dating market for a long time. Only the third and last point are valid. | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 01:58 PM |
| 6 | Stats on 40 Cold Approaches"PLEASE don't do this, women do not want to be approached by strange men out in public" Looks back at girlfriend I had for a year that I got from cold approaching her on the sidewalk outside a store. Looks at the FWB's I currently have, all from daytime cold approach. Looks at friends I made when I cold approached a girl and she rejected me but invited me out with friends. Yeah DEFINITELY don't do it bro lol You can always tell the guys who spend their whole life on the internet and guys who act… | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 01:53 PM |
| 4 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesSpoken like a guy who doesn't approach 😂 | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesOnly way to actually tell is if you record audio of your approaches and we know what you look like. PM me if you want help. | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 01:40 PM |
| 0 | Do you think you have to leave the USA in order to enjoy your 30s as a bachelor?Literally just do what you did in your 20's. Get good at daytime cold approach. I'm seeing currently 5 girls. Ages are 22, 21, 28, 30, and 26. I'm 34. No one cares. No one has ever come up to me and said I'm a creep. It's really just not a big deal. I met all these girls during the day and they are all from cold approach. Straight cold approach. No social events. None from social circle (I don't like dealing with the drama). Only caveat is you must look good. Like if you LOOK older, and you're b… | /r/seduction | 04/07/22 03:03 AM |
| 7 | Talking to a girl everyday for the rest of the year update (June 26- july 1)Yeah, your logic is basically "do it sporadically/naturally (whatever that means) then it's ok. Consciously decide to do it in a structured way, then it's creepy." I guess Kobe Bryant is super creepy. He practiced so much. Why didn't he just do random pickup basketball games? What a creeper. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach helpIt varies from about 1 to 3 minutes. It doesn't need to be exactly three to five questions. That's just a general guideline for beginners. But also the way you're asking for the number, you don't even need to say that much. You can just ask them if they'd be down to grab a drink this week. Also you want to ask them out and get their number before you say you need to get back to your friends. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | About connecting with women you have nothing in common.Another thing. Are YOU being as expressive and congruent as you could be? Usually if you are being expressive and actually asking people why they like certain things, the connection just happens, it doesn't really need to be forced. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 06:22 PM |
| 1 | About connecting with women you have nothing in common.But also, your standards might be a little too high. You don't need to deeply connect with everyone. And really most people you will NOT deeply connect with. Just focus on exactly what you want from the situation. You might say "well what I want is to deeply connect". Ok but WHY do you want to deeply connect? Focus on getting that part instead. But also, yes girls are boring as fuck mostly. I personally don't focus on trying to connect with girls. I just do what I want to do and try to get what … | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 06:19 PM |
| 2 | About connecting with women you have nothing in common.For instance, you might like metal because it allows you to let loose and feel free in some way or express a part of you you normally don't. And maybe a person who rides horses or motorcycles likes the freedom it gives them. So two people who are talking about completely different things can share that core commonality of "I feel free when doing it". Connect on THAT, not the actual activity. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 06:11 PM |
| 3 | About connecting with women you have nothing in common.And you can incorporate some cold reads. "I like traveling" You can ask the surface level thing of where they've been, what's their favorite place, where they'd like to go etc. Then you can ask why they like traveling. "Well I just like exploring and seeing new things." Ok so they value new novel experiences. Maybe they are an adrenaline junkie. Maybe they like exploring new cultures and ways of thinking to broaden their views. Are there other things besides traveling where they like to always b… | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 06:08 PM |
| 2 | About connecting with women you have nothing in common.Instead of asking people about hobbies/interests, you want to ask them about WHY they like them. And then even when they give that answer, you can ask "why" to that also. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 06:00 PM |
| 1 | About connecting with women you have nothing in common.The problem is actually that you are focusing on the wrong things to try and connect on. You are trying more to connect on things that are somewhat surface level. You want to connect on the core traits and values that people have. Now obviously, if a person has the same interests as you, there is a higher chance that they will share some of the same traits and beliefs as you, but that's not a given. You need to look past those surface level interests and try to find the core things that you guys… | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 05:58 PM |
| 3 | Talking to a girl everyday for the rest of the year update (June 26- july 1)But why? | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 05:50 PM |
| 15 | Talking to a girl everyday for the rest of the year update (June 26- july 1)This is like the least creepy you can be doing cold approach. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 05:08 PM |
| 9 | Talking to a girl everyday for the rest of the year update (June 26- july 1)Most of Reddit: Anything I disagree with or would not do myself is creepy | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible to cold approach and have sex same day?Yes I've done it several times. Instead of inviting them out for a date later that week, just ask if they are doing anything that night. It's pretty much the exact same process but with that one difference. You don't need to do anything extra special, just ask if they are doing anything that night. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Cold approach helpAnd then when you get her number, just follow my texting guide I posted. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Cold approach helpI'm assuming you saw my post about cold approaching. Just follow up with what are you up to today and then have three to five questions/comments ready to keep the convo going. Once you are done with those canned questions/ comments, just ask what she's up to that week and that you guys should grab a drink or coffee sometime. If a girl is not in a relationship, is open to meeting new guys, and likes your general vibe and look, she will be open to meeting up with you and you don't need to make it … | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 04:35 PM |
| 2 | Cold approach helpThere's no possible way you have cold approached on a consistent basis. This is one of the worst responses on here. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach helpIt's true that attractive women get compliments all the time. But do all of those guys do it in a confident way and can continue a conversation confidently and comfortably and then actually ask for her number and invite her on a date? The answer is no. I'm in nashville, and one time I approached this hot young blonde girl who is visiting from New York city. Part way through our talk she said, wow guys in the South are so outgoing. I asked her if she'd ever had this happen before and she said no.… | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 04:29 PM |
| 1 | Day gaming at grocery store?Same as if she's by herself. Except instead of saying what are you up to, say what are you guys up to. And then if one of the other girls says anything to you, you can acknowledge it and respond and then just go back to talking to the girl you want. You don't need to entertain or keep the attention of the rest of the group. In night game you do to a certain extent, but not day game. | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 03:47 PM |
| 2 | You can get away with anything if you learn how to take a rejection; How ToYeah I've always thought of game and the process of guiding girls who are interested in you through the process to hooking up. | /r/seduction | 02/07/22 10:26 AM |
| 2 | The “Age knowing” thingIf she's attractive, who cares? If she's underage she'll tell you. | /r/seduction | 02/07/22 01:11 AM |
| 1 | How to not be needyYep everything worth getting takes a long time | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 02:50 PM |
| 2 | People in bars and clubs avoid meNope, youre either HEAVILY exaggerating or this happened a small handful of times and you're extrapolating. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 09:37 AM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yes you've never heard of it, therefore it doesn't exist 😂 There's definitely not entire compilations of women complaining that men don't approach anymore https://youtu.be/Bv1JGYV1j9E https://youtu.be/B3rwyNRPobc https://youtu.be/FvfUtn48l7o But I'm sure you'll find some exception or caveat so that you're still right in your own head. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 08:44 AM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Please please please keep commenting. You are helping my cause tremendously 😉 | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 08:21 AM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Hey followers! I'm a dickweed! You all need to repent and see me for the horrible person I am. You need to listen to this girl and never try to get laid except in the specific ways this one girl out of 4 billion says! 🤣 I have seen the error of my ways and you all should too. Don't try to get better. Listen to this girl and her advice! You're all creeps! How dare you! 😂 | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 08:10 AM |
| 14 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I'm a piece of shit. No excuses. You caught me. So now what? Keep letting out your resentment over a keyboard? I'm a piece of shit and will not change. Cancel me? Find out my identity? Go ahead 🤣 | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 07:12 AM |
| 16 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)REEEEEEEEEE! 🤣 | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 07:06 AM |
| 31 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah this is why you don't take advice from women. If I listened to this advice, I would have never developed great relationships with any of the women I've met in the last seven years. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 04:09 AM |
| 7 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I guess tell that to all the girls I've hooked up with and had relationships with? Nice job speaking for all women everywhere. I promise you there are many girls who appreciate it when a guy approaches them. You are one of the girls that would be in that subset that I mentioned that would not like it. No problem, you can do whatever you want, I will just go and approach another girl. No hard feelings. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Very unhealthy mindest about datingI say this to genuinely help you. You feel this way because you're not good at it. You need to improve yourself and get abundance. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:50 AM |
| 2 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?If you truly don't feel any emotions about it and you are actually the age you say, you either have massive emotional trauma that's unaddressed or you are psychopathic/sociopathic to a certain degree. Again, that's not meant to be an insult. Some people just don't process/feel emotions the same way. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?😒 | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?So how old are you? | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?Not sure why you got combative out of nowhere. I'm genuinely not trying to be condescending in any way, just giving a perspective from an older guy (34) and letting you know that you will feel it one day. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?I don't say that as an insult. This is just one of those beliefs that is common among younger people who haven't experienced certain things. Everything happens in phases. Eventually you will get to the point in life where you will have an experience that will make you understand. I didn't value these things when I was younger either. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?Here's an analogy. When you were little, you probably didn't really see the big deal with having a car. You were just a kid, all you cared about was having fun and playing with your friends. You never had the life circumstances where you had to value a car. But now that you have driven and you basically need a car to be an adult, you would be really affected if all the sudden you couldn't drive. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:36 AM |
| 2 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?I'm going to take a wild guess here and say you are in your lower twenties. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:33 AM |
| 0 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?Even just using the word partner and not girlfriend or wife shows a lack of emotional investment. When you are actually invested in a girl and it's not just some random attractive girl, but a girl who hits literally every single thing you like, and it's extremely rare and you're not sure when you'll meet another girl like her, you will understand. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:32 AM |
| 2 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?Because you haven't loved a girl yet. Eventually you'll meet a girl who is so f****** awesome and you guys will get into a relationship and you'll be invested and you will realize that you would be really pissed if she went behind your back and cheated. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Movies/series that subtly up the spicy mood?!Timetraveler is completely right though. Most of the factors are already decided. She's in the mood because she's coming to your place. Just put on a random movie that's not Human Centipede or Schindler's List and cuddle while watching it. Talk for maybe first 5-10 minutes of the movie, then lightly rub/massage her back/side/neck and act like it's completely normal, don't draw attention to it or make it super overt. Still keep light conversation going while doing this. After doing that for anoth… | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 02:48 AM |
| 6 | Why do people feel strong emotions about cheating?You haven't truly loved a girl yet if you don't understand why people feel strong emotions about cheating. A threesome is WAAAAAY different than being emotionally (and possibly financially) invested in a girl for a long period of time and maybe making future plans of some sort, and then they lie and go behind your back to cheat, potentially for a long period of time. When you get your first real serious relationship, you'll understand. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 02:37 AM |
| 1 | What to do next?There is absolutely no reason to give your number to the girl and have her call you. You will miss out on A LOT of girls that way. You're basically telling the girl to take the masculine role and move things forward. You'll miss out on bare minimum half of your potential lays doing this. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 02:33 AM |
| 3 | Sarging in ATLI'm in Nashville if you ever want to game up here. I go out on Broadway at least once a week and I do Daygame sessions all the time. BTW 8000+ approaches and 200+ lays over 7 years, so I'm fairly experienced. Come up here for a weekend and we'll fuck shit up. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Hot wing? Or rolling solo?Just don't wing with him. I go out alone at night like 95% of the time. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 02:26 AM |
| 5 | How to not be needyThe only way to TRULY REALLY DEEP DOWN not have neediness is to have abundance. Not abundance mentality, ACTUAL abundance. You get abundance by getting options. You get options by getting leads (either from approaching, online, etc). You get leads from these by having an above average SMV. So first step to non-neediness is self improvement. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 02:23 AM |
| 1 | Is anyone else finding it a lot harder to actually get dates through dating apps these days?What city are you in? | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Tried cold approaching a 5+ set....went sideways lolThis 👆 | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 02:34 PM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I should specify that there's plenty of times where I go direct at night, it's just that it's not necessarily needed. Night time is more about the energy and just having fun and flowing socially, so you can just open and do whatever and just have fun honestly. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:30 PM |
| 5 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah it's a little counterintuitive, but I go direct with Day game and indirect with night game. My reasoning is that during the day, it's not obvious that the reason you're talking to someone is to hit on them, so you have to go to direct to let them know. At night, it's assumed that the only reason a guy is talking to a girl is to hit on her, so the directness is already assumed. Everyone is out to talk to people and most of the guys are there to hit on girls. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:29 PM |
| 6 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)"hey what's up, what are you guys up to/celebrating?" Response Comment on her response and follow up as much as you want Then go into see it say it. Examples could be: You notice a fruity looking drink and you ask what it is? They tell you. "Damn that looks good. How come you're the only one that has a fruity drink?" Some piece of clothing or jewelry one of the friends is wearing Something about the environment or a person nearby Literally anything you see or think about, just say it. Don't over… | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:11 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)With night game it's more about having a fun energy and just kind of being in the moment. A really good exercise is either see it say it, or think it say it. Literally just anything you see on the girl or about the girl or about any of her friends or about the environment, just make some kind of comment about. And then do like one little follow-up to it and sometimes those turn into legit conversations. Still have some canned lines or questions ready to go just in case there's a little lull in t… | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meIf it's just everything you stated in your original post, that's just approaching anxiety and not wanting to put in the work to improve. Also a whole bunch of limiting beliefs because you haven't even tried it yet so you don't even know what the result would be. Seems like a classic case of someone just wanting different results without having to actually change anything about themselves. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWhat's the position you're in? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meBy the way, this is all said with love and with the intention of helping you. I'm not trying to say anything bad about your character, I'm just letting you know where you're feeling is actually coming from and that literally everyone experiences it. Nobody has an easy time learning cold approach. I've seen people who are naturally alpha and have good social skills and are pretty confident in the rest of their life, have the exact same problems. Anytime you're starting something new, there's alwa… | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meThat's not a weird aversion, that's just approach anxiety. Literally every single person who starts cold approaching feels that. It's not natural to be able to go up to strangers and hit on them. Saying it's a "weird aversion" is again another justification for not trying to overcome approach anxiety. You're basically trying to frame it in your head as if it's just part of who You Are and that other people don't feel the same. I absolutely promise, every single person in the world has that same … | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:59 PM |
| 2 | I need a rallying folks. I have lost all the motivation to cold approachYeah I get ghosted after dates all the time too. I go on like 6 to 10 dates a month from cold approach. A certain percentage of those are going to ghost before or after a date. The reason you got ghosted is not really apparent. Because it was only your first date from cold approach. It's hard to see what went wrong unless you've been on maybe 10 to 20 dates and we start to see some. I get ghosted by hot girls and sometimes I get ghosted by girls I'm only minorly attracted to. So just using this … | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:42 PM |
| 3 | 📱Total's Texting Tutorial (with real convo examples)Same here, I try to keep texting to a minimum. It's just so boring and I can't get across my full personality. I only really use it to maintain a little bit of rapport in between dates with a girl I've already hooked up with. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWith all that said, if you need help getting started, my last three posts are pretty much everything you need to know about the basics of approaching. Also you can PM me if you want. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:11 PM |
| 3 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meYou're right, cold approach is against your nature. But I'm not sure why that matters at all. First of all, it might not be as much against your nature as you think. Different life circumstances can push people one way or another and it's not necessarily in line with what their true nature is. But second of all, most people who say that something just isn't for them or it's not who they are or it's not in their nature or whatever, are really just using that as an excuse to not improve. Most thin… | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | I need a rallying folks. I have lost all the motivation to cold approachI actually don't need to know how many approaches you've done. All that's happening is you're getting emotional because you are unsure about your access to sex. If all that other stuff happened but that hot girl still went on a date with you, you most likely wouldn't be all emotional like this. By the way, it's completely normal to get ghosted when you're setting up dates. I'm not saying it should happen the majority of the time, but I get ghosted/flaked with maybe 1/10(?) Ish dates. I literally… | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 02:09 PM |
| 1 | I need a rallying folks. I have lost all the motivation to cold approachApproximately how many approaches have you done total? I'm guessing less than 200? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 02:04 PM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)In what way | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 11:35 AM |
| 7 | Day gaming at grocery store?They're just scared or not good at it. I've gotten numbers from girls at bus stops with multiple other people watching and the bus right about to pull up. It's all about your confidence and ability to handle tension. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:24 AM |
| 4 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)This is my first time hearing the term "forcing IOI's". Similar to "hit and runs" where you just do small comments or openers to everyone and then re-approach those who seemed receptive. Yeah this is a great filtering mechanism. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:22 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Like myself from 7 years ago would look at how I do things now and be like "holy shit that's crazy". Improvement happens in very small increments and you generally won't even realize how far you've come until you look back two or three months and compare yourself to that version. Don't look at how you improve day to day, it will be almost imperceptible. You want to look at it in increments of two or three months. Just got to put your head down and do the work. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:16 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yeah dude as long as you just keep putting forth consistent effort and are always trying to move forward, you'll get to where you need to be. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:14 AM |
| 3 | Day gaming at grocery store?You can just follow the basic format in my cold approach post. Compliment She says thank you Ask her what she's up to/what she's up to that day She'll respond Respond to what she said in some way, you can make a little joke or something if you want (but don't feel forced to, if it's too stressful or unnatural at the moment, just one response/comment about what she said is fine) Follow rest of the cold approach format. The point of sticking with that format is so that you have a structure to latc… | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:12 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yeah summer definitely has less volume. I went out to approach today on the campus and literally only did like five approaches in an hour 15 minutes. If you're just trying to get reps in and build the skill, it's fine to go after girls who you're not really that attracted to. It's not ideal, but you got to work with what you got. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:05 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah I'll write a texting post | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 02:45 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I'm in Nashville, yes it's hard to get volume in smaller cities, which is one of the reasons I live in larger cities. What's the population of your city? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 02:44 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)On a side note, just asking this question is an indication that you still have a lot of approach anxiety. The question implies that you are looking for the place that will give you the least amount of rejections, meaning you are still scared of rejection. So that's what you need to work on, not the venue you approach in. | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 10:33 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)It's all basically the same honestly. Only real difference is the guys confidence level within any given venue. | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 10:30 PM |
| 31 | Day gaming at grocery store?Go up to her and say "excuse me, you are ridiculously cute". I go direct almost 100% of the time regardless of scenario. Makes almost no difference from what I've seen (I used to go indirect/situational, my results are the exact same now that I go direct). Or do whatever indirect/situational opener you want, and then after like 10-15 seconds say "I'm kidding I actually don't care about blah blah, I just thought you were cute and didn't know what to say/wanted to talk to you". It mostly doesn't m… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 04:28 PM |
| 3 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Would you like me to refer you to my bald, 45 year old, black, 5'8" friend in Atlanta who gets laid from cold approach? Or my 5'6" friend in North Carolina who gets laid from cold approach? Or my 5'9" Indian friend in Austin who gets laid from cold approach? Obviously some people have advantages, but that's no excuse to not improve yourself. Do you lift? If so, how long have you been? Do you do masculine activities like combat sports? Do you actively work on your image and try to create a certai… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 02:10 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Uh oh, that comment was probably too long. Here I'll make it basic for you. "Much below surface, worthwhile info to be gained." | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 07:03 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Really harping on this "you take forever to explain basic concepts" thing. It's called going in depth and explaining WHY things are a certain way. Everyone knows that when you flip a light switch, the light turns on. But do most people know all the processes and everything that goes on behind the scenes to actually make the light come on? Your argument is the equivalent of saying "why do I need to know anything about electricity and circuits and all that complicated stuff? It's a basic concept. … | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 07:02 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I also want to emphasize that you will not be able to get over the initial nervousness and awkwardness. It is going to guaranteed feel very nerve-racking. But you just have to do it. Once you get past 10 approaches in a day, it starts to become a lot easier. If you only ever do five or six approaches in a day, you'll never get to the point where you break through and start feeling more confident and social. Just like with the gym, going 20 times in a year probably won't do much, but going 20 tim… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 04:21 AM |
| 3 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I am the exact opposite of a natural. Everything I know comes from years of approaching and going on dates in different cities and just developing calibrations and recognizing patterns. Also going to the gym consistently and changing how I present myself. I'm at a point now where most people actually think I'm a natural. But no when I very first started approaching, all I started with was asking for the time and it took me about 45 minutes just to ask one person for the time and then another hou… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 04:07 AM |
| 4 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Just say hey what's up like nothing is out of the ordinary | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 02:18 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Very responsible use of your mod abilities. And I'm sure you're perfectly objective and your ego plays zero part in what you consider "bullshit". | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 07:24 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Ah yes, the classic redirect. Get called out for asking questions and basing your literal entire argument on something that was already said in the post (demographic and venue manipulation) and something that the article isn't even about (other nom-cold approach ways to seduce), and now all the sudden you're done engaging. I'm looking forward to what you'll comment on my next post that was already answered multiple times or what ambiguous/constantly changing claims you will make. And you're a mo… | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Of course you didn't. That's always the sign that the person lost the argument. They say something about the comment was too long or some other dumb stuff. You'll probably respond back with something about how you don't have time or blah blah blah. Even though you had plenty of time with all the comments leading up to this. And then as soon as I present all my points very concisely in one post and call out on everything you say, all the sudden you don't have time. It's fine, I accept your conces… | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 06:08 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Side note about time and effort. For cold approach, most of my approaches currently are while I'm out doing normal things during the day. I see an attractive girl, I approach her, have a ~3 minutes interaction, and ask her out. So it takes almost no additional time at all. I don't wait for girls to show interest. I just approach whoever I'm attracted to. Does that increase rejection? Yes, but if you're not insecure and you're solid in who you are, it doesn't matter. The only reason for me person… | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 06:03 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Wow we didn't even need to have this entire exchange. A girl approaching you is not cold approach. That's you being approached. Or if the girl makes it super obvious she wants to be approached, that's still only a warm approach, not a cold approach. If I basically stopped cold approaching and only talked to girls within a narrow set of circumstances where I think there was a high chance it would work out, and also included girls that approach me in my calculations, then yes my numbers would be d… | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 05:59 PM |
| 3 | I can't approach girls, I'm so frustratedOk I'll keep the tough love to a minimum. That's just my style, but my intention is to genuinely help people. Sometimes to help people, you just need to point out when they are being too emotional or when the only thing that's holding them back is their own emotion. But yeah I'll keep that to a minimum from now on. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 05:44 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I mean it's gotta be AT LEAST 1.8 | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 04:16 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Predicting some type of "I don't have time for this/this is stupid" response to avoid answering this directly. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 03:50 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Ok so what is your conversion rate to SEX, and sex alone, CURRENTLY (or the last time you gamed if you're currently in a relationship). Not kiss closes or anything else. What percentage of women that you approach do you end up sleeping with? You're being real dodgy with this. I'll put it in it's own paragraph so there's no confusion. -----What is your current or most recent approach to lay ratio in America approximately? And how long ago was it?------ Because literally no one in the world sleeps… | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Teenager - So it was social circle and not straight cold approach Sex or kiss closed - those are such wildly different outcomes I can't believe that you put them right next to each other as if they're comparable 90's - So 20-30 years ago... And you think you could get these percentages currently? I'm sure you're probably married or something, but IF you were single and, let's say, 28 years old, you think you could get roughly those percentages, or even anywhere close, right now? | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 08:14 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)So for clarification, you slept with 40-60% of the women you approached? | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 08:01 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Nah I'm 2. Baby recognize baby 💪😎 | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 07:42 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I will answer your questions with direct quotes from my posts to show that I answered them in the post and you have misunderstood. Using canned lines "This is the GENERAL format I use for probably 90%+ of my approaches." "And then when they respond, you can choose to go as far down that conversation topic as you want." A general format is not the same as canned lines. Everyone has a certain amount of "canned" material, but most of my convos diverge because I'm more advanced. This is the bare bon… | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 07:41 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)You are correct | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 06:52 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Guess I don't have common sense. I can't take personal responsibility for everyone who reads my stuff. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 06:42 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)If your tall good looking friend cold approached, he would get rejected a lot everyone does. The numbers game even applies in social circle settings. So you say that he always has two or three girls come up to him and show interest. But what about all the other girls at the event? He's still only getting interest from a small percentage of girls relative to all the girls there. It's the exact same principle. The only difference is that in social circle, the leads are coming to him. For cold appr… | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 01:21 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yes I said that several times right at the beginning of the article. "I’m going to preface this by saying that you can only play the numbers game if you meet certain minimums." "If you are overweight, it will be really hard to get laid from cold approach. If you don't have decent baseline social skills, it will be really hard to get laid from cold approach" "Yours will probably be lower than this if you’re first starting. Getting to the point where the following breakdown applies to you (about a… | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 01:18 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Ok then approach them being genuine and respectful and you should do fine then. Not really sure why you're asking for advice if you already know what to do and what the girls you like want in a guy. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 01:13 AM |
| 3 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)This is with regards to cold approach. You're talking about warm approach/social circle, which is a different thing. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 01:11 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)In what way is it not a numbers game? You'll always deal with more (drastically more) girls that don't hook up than do. The concept of the numbers game is to highlight the fact that most girls, for whatever reason, will not hook up with you. Of the girls who WOULD POTENTIALLY hook up with you, then yes it's based on value and "game". | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 01:07 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)And if so, what's the threshold for "being high value"? And is it easier to get to that threshold than just cold approaching? | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 12:58 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)So you're saying it's possible to be so high value that you hook up with more girls than you don't hook up with? | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 12:57 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yeah but outside how they dress, usually the confidence and the sexual presence is severely lacking in them. I would say that's probably a bigger problem than just how they dress or present their money. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 12:50 AM |
| 3 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Tell that to the thousands of people in tech who make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year but have absolutely no success with women. If you can't get women without money, there's an extremely low chance of you being able to get them with money. I've seen it first hand so many times. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 12:23 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Is there a rule for the subreddit saying that all content needs to be geared towards newbies? | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 11:26 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yes I stated in the post that the post was about the numbers game. And that there are certain prerequisites to playing the numbers game. Not everyone has to agree with me or see my point of view and there will always be different skill levels. I plan on making more newbie related material at some point. Plenty of people find value in what I'm posting. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 11:25 PM |
| 0 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)For my day today approaches, it's literally anywhere. For my Approach sessions, it's usually malls, college campuses, or parks. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 11:22 PM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yeah definitely, for night game it's just about doing a whole bunch of approaches until you find one that you feel could go somewhere and then ride that one out. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 08:49 PM |
| 0 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I don't know how you can ask for advice, and then I give you advice and tell you your problem, and you say no I'm wrong. Don't ask for advice if you can't handle the truth. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 07:47 PM |
| 0 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)"Dress clean" - clean is different from sexy/cool/edgy. Girls don't give a fuck about clean. "Work out 3 to 4 hours a day" - and somehow you're still stick thin. Girls don't care about your climbing ability, they care if you can physically defend them. Most guys would break you in half like a twig. Not attractive. "Strong social skills" - doesn't equal attractive. You probably have "nice guy" social skills where you do things just to get along with people and make everything smooth and safe and … | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 07:45 PM |
| 0 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I just do them as I'm going about my life, no extra time required. Anywhere I see an attractive girl, I approach her and have a short convo and invite her for a drink. Also just a note, 3% conversion rate on cold approach is not bad, it's actually very good. Anyone who actually approaches a decent amount and keeps track of general stats will tell you that anything above about 2% is good. A couple times a month I also do actual approach sessions. I can approach about 8 to 10 girls an hour. And I … | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 07:32 PM |
| 4 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)🤣 call the authorities! We got a fucking creep here guys! 🤣 I really hope you're a woman. Any guy who uses the word creep is not getting laid very often. "Jeepers this fella sure is a creep! Right ladies? I'm on your side! Will you sleep with me now?" 🤣 Absolutely pathetic | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 06:41 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)"You wrote a huge wall of text to convince people that if they approach 3-4 people per day, they’ll have sex with around 1 to 4 of them." I said IF they meet a certain looks threshold and IF they meet a certain level of confidence and social skills, then yes they will get laid. Those are big ifs. "Unfortunately, math doesn’t apply to human behavior, so you can’t determine this “outcome” by just playing with numbers." You can't determine EXACT outcomes, but you can determine generalities. Just li… | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Best way to reconnect with someone who you haven’t spoken with in a year?Dick pic | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 05:48 PM |
| 8 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)No, dating is not fucked. The Disney fairy tale concept of how relationships are is fucked. This is the reality. The current popular romantic viewpoint is the farce. They made you think the world was a way that it's not. This is closer to reality than the mainstream idea of relationships. You either adapt or don't. The universe doesn't care if you don't pass on your genes, you'll just be forgotten, regardless of any you couldn't do it. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 05:46 PM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)They're always on backup 🤣 | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 05:29 PM |
| 6 | Im finding paid for services are a better deal than PUA or a normal traditional wife/gf, please tell me why I am faulty in my thought process!?It's probably true for you. You honestly sound like an extremely lazy and entitled guy. You probably see it as work because you suck at a lot of things. Improve yourself dude. But you don't seem like a self improvement guy. So just keep buying it. You're one of those guys that was never gonna make it because you're so entitled. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Is it about the looks or the personality of a guy?Yes the girl has to be at least somewhat attracted to you or nothing works. 7/10 is generally what's accepted to be the minimum level of attractiveness needed. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 05:02 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)🤣 | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:58 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)All quotes from the post. Have covered literally everything you're talking about. "I’m going to preface this by saying that you can only play the numbers game if you meet certain minimums" "This post is just about the general concept of the numbers game. This post is not about the actual skill of approaching. It's just to talk about the general concept of numbers game." "The following are just rough estimates used for illustration purposes. I arrived at these from looking at my thousands of appr… | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:37 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Nice | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:15 PM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)🤣 | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:14 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I can't literally diagnose every single guy on the planet with all their different situations and cover all of that in one single post. Obviously anything someone writes is going to be general to a certain degree not specific to certain people. There's exceptions to literally everything in life. You pointing out exceptions doesn't disprove or take away the credibility of anything I wrote. Pretty much every single person who can't get laid from cold approach either doesn't come across as confiden… | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:13 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I said in the article that if you don't look above average and don't have good baseline social skills, it will be extremely difficult to get anything. So for all those examples you listed, one of those two things, or both of them, are true for those guys. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:57 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)No. One of those things you said is not true. Either those people are not as good as they think socially, or they are lower than a seven. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:55 PM |
| 5 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Most girls don't care, some do. They only really care if you look bad. So if you're NOTICEABLY older looking, yeah your percentages will decrease. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:53 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)🤣 | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:47 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)😂 ok we'll let other people who see this comment decide if I copied you. I don't even need to defend that, others will see and they can make up their own minds 🤣 | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:44 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Both of these quotes are from my post. I literally covered exactly what you're talking about. "I’m going to preface this by saying that you can only play the numbers game if you meet certain minimums. I really need to hammer that home. If you are overweight, it will be really hard to get laid from cold approach. If you don't have decent baseline social skills, it will be really hard to get laid from cold approach. Self-improvement is a part of the game. The pickup journey has two phases. First i… | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:41 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)K, up your comprehension | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:37 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yeah, it takes me right 1 hour and 45 minutes of approaching to get one date. That's pretty low investment. But you have to get good at it. Any skill you want to learn, you have to put in a lot of time to get good at it. When you have a naked girl in your bed right in front of you, you're not thinking about the rejections or the time it took to get there. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:36 PM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)You didn't read the article | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:34 PM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I didn't take inspiration from anyone. These are my own personal approximate stats. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:33 PM |
| 0 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)😂 everyone get a bib for the baby | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:32 PM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)34 Nashville. I've also lived in LA, San Diego, Vegas, Austin, Houston, Salt Lake City, and Chicago. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:31 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)You didn't read the article | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:30 PM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Obvious troll is obvious | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:30 PM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Jesus Christ dude, I literally covered EVERYTHING in your comment in my post. I'm not even going to go through everything that was wrong in your comment because it was LITERALLY everything. You did not comprehend my article correctly at all. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:27 PM |
| 3 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)5'11", nothing crazy | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 09:15 AM |
| 10 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yeah, it's a really long road to get good at this stuff. One of the main reasons why guys look up a lot of pickup content is because they are trying to avoid the initial suck stage. They want the perfect opener and the perfect structure and technique so that they don't have to feel the awkwardness and just be good immediately. But there's no skill in the world where a person is good immediately and won't go through some form of failure and being uncomfortable. Also yeah, people in the comments a… | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 09:08 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)34 | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 08:45 AM |
| 5 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Always number unless you have a really badass Instagram, like top 1% with a bunch of followers. I'm not sure what you're talking about with the messaging thing, this is just normal Android text messaging app. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 08:32 AM |
| 5 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)5'11". Have a friend who's 5'8" and one who's 5'6" that gets laid all the time with equally hot girls. They also go to the gym though and dress with a cool masculine style (tattoos, leather jackets, ripped shirts etc) | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 08:30 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Well even though there's no way to prove "without a shadow of a doubt" (because this is the internet and no one believes you no matter what) I'll take down the pics because they don't necessarily help with the actual content of the post. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 08:27 AM |
| 5 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)5'11" | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 08:11 AM |
| 4 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)13 years of working out | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 08:08 AM |
| 4 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I'm 34, preferred age group is mid 20's. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 08:06 AM |
| 7 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)No the burden of proof isn't on me. That's just something you're saying because you know that there's no reasonable way I can actually prove it. You couldn't think of anything, not even one thing, that I could do to prove it so you decided to shift the burden of proof to me to deflect away from that. Good try though. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 08:03 AM |
| 0 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Okay, what type of evidence could I have provided that would prove that I got consent? A video of them holding up today's newspaper and saying I give consent for this to be posted? Or would you like text conversations? Because then you could just say that I used one of those apps that fakes text conversations. And I don't know how this could be considered revenge when there is literally zero identifying information of any kind. I just honestly don't understand the angle you're coming from. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 07:39 AM |
| 8 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Will do | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 07:35 AM |
| 4 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)But I have consent. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 07:33 AM |
| 4 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Again, go ahead and contact them. Should be easy based on the huge amount of identifying info that's there. But yeah that's pretty much how it went. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 06:36 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Well you are free to contact them to verify. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 06:21 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Made a post with that proof you wanted 😉 | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 06:19 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Oh Ok yeah you're pretty much screwed then | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 06:01 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)So do you not even have your own room? | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 05:45 AM |
| 4 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yes self improvement is a must. I will post pics of what I used to look like. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 05:21 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I should specify that not having your own place doesn't impact hookups that much. But it does impact retention a decent amount. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 05:15 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Exactly | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 05:01 AM |
| 2 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I actually can't even remember what part of the city they live in. I just know it's one of the more upscale areas lol. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:55 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I actually have two friends who Day game in New York City and say that they get decent results. I'm kind of less inclined to believe New York City is that different from other major cities. Cuz people said the same thing about Los Angeles and miami, and I got mostly the same results there. I need to actually go to New York to see for myself. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:48 AM |
| 3 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yeah, it's obviously better to have your own place, but you can still pull girls if you have roommates or live at your parents. There will be a small percentage of girls that you will miss out on because of it, but not really that many in the long run. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:45 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yeah I gotta game in NYC at some point. I've lived in Austin, Houston, San Diego, Los Angeles, Vegas, Salt Lake City, and Chicago. And have visited several other cities, but never NYC. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:38 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Oh gotcha so you use it more as a conversational technique? | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Black women aren't really perceived as women so what options do I have?But I will say that yes, a lot of non black guys do rule out Black girls. But there are PLENTY that don't. Possibly move to another part of the country? I'm in Nashville, I see black girl/non black guy relationships all the time. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:05 AM |
| 1 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yeah but also don't worry about qualifying. As you approach more, you naturally see patterns and develop certain standards. It's your general behavior that makes girls qualify, not lines and tactics. But also, qualifying, even if it was that effective which I don't think it is, would only work on the small subset of girls who would even do anything with you. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 04:00 AM |
| 0 | Black women aren't really perceived as women so what options do I have?Well damn I don't know. I guess guys around you are dumb fucks. Or they are just too scared to do anything. Tech guys are kind of known for not having balls. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:58 AM |
| 5 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Oh ok I gotcha, no that's not possible. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:54 AM |
| 13 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Everyone in an ideal world would just want those four straight solid leads. Just like everyone would like to lose weight just by taking a pill or become a millionaire by working 2 hours a week. But it's just not possible. This is the real world process for how you get these results. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:50 AM |
| 3 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)There is absolutely no way around to rejection. None. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Black women aren't really perceived as women so what options do I have?Wait I just looked at your pictures. You're very attractive. Are you possibly reading too much into the situation or you have a bias that is causing you to do things that would turn guys away? I'm not saying this as an attack, just genuinely wondering because I would talk to you in a heartbeat if I saw you walking down the street. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:46 AM |
| 0 | Black women aren't really perceived as women so what options do I have?Actually a lot of guys want to date black women, most actually the think the girl will treat them a certain way or they are intimidated. Have heard this from several guys. I personally date all races (been with several black, white, Hispanic, Asian etc girls). It's unfortunate that some media portrays black women a certain way. You might have to be the one to make the first move. But trust me, plenty of non black men are attracted to black women. Plenty. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:43 AM |
| 6 | Talking to a girl every single day for the rest of the year (update) June 22nd-25thJust like a guy in a relationship can look at other girls and find them attractive but have absolutely no intention of actually trying to hook up with her. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:24 AM |
| 2 | Talking to a girl every single day for the rest of the year (update) June 22nd-25thIt CAN be, but not every time. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:22 AM |
| 2 | Talking to a girl every single day for the rest of the year (update) June 22nd-25thNo | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:21 AM |
| 3 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)🙏 | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:05 AM |
| 0 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)I have several other photos, these are of the girls that were fine with it. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:01 AM |
| 5 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yep | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 03:01 AM |
| 8 | Talking to a girl every single day for the rest of the year (update) June 22nd-25thA girl thinking another guy is attractive is not a choosing signal. She thought he was attractive, so she was looking at him. That's it. Guys and girls who are in relationships look at attractive people all the time. That doesn't mean it's a choosing signal or an invitation for them to have sex. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 02:54 AM |
| 8 | Talking to a girl every single day for the rest of the year (update) June 22nd-25thNope, you can go direct, indirect, whatever it doesn't matter most of the time. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 02:50 AM |
| 14 | I'm 21, started clubbing this year . I get approached a lot by woman on nightclubs but I lack the confidence to get "physical" , so they eventually go because they think I'm not interested ... Any advice?You won't be super confident escalating at first. You just have to start doing it. Confidence comes from doing it repeatedly, probably badly at first, and then getting comfortable with it. If you wait until you're already confident and comfortable before you start doing it, you'll never do it. The confidence comes AFTER you do it. Courage is not the absence of fear. It is the presence of fear yet the will to go on. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 02:39 AM |
| 10 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)But also I know several guys who aren't "Chad" level that still do well and get similar percentages. You really just need to look slightly above average. Obviously the better you look, the better your results will be overall. But it's actually not THAT big of a difference. Not being the pinnacle of something is not a reason to not do it. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 02:35 AM |
| 4 | 🤓 The Numbers Game Explained (plus bonus proof pics)Yes, self-improvement is a part of the game. Average people get bad results in pretty much anything in life. The goal is to get to above average and then play the numbers game. But the threshold for above average is lower than most guys think. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 02:19 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Self improvement is a part of game that most guys completely neglect. Before you start anything game related, you should go through a self-improvement phase until you are about a 7/10, and then start pick up. | /r/seduction | 25/06/22 03:55 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)One thing I will say for sure is that if you don't consider yourself at least a 7/10, most strategies will not work. All girls have certain standards. All you have to do is be slightly above average and you're good. | /r/seduction | 25/06/22 03:49 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I'm going to make another post about the numbers game and I will post a picture of myself along with the girls that I hook up with. | /r/seduction | 25/06/22 03:42 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)8/10. Self-improvement is a part of the game. Most strategies will not work if you are not at least a 7/10. | /r/seduction | 25/06/22 03:42 AM |
| 1 | How to keep a girl interested in sex without getting into a relationshipYou give her good sex | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Dating a Model - TipsYou can't stop her from losing interest. When she wants to leave, she'll leave. Just enjoy it while it lasts. | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 06:14 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Hell yeah do it. I've done plenty of approach sessions at the mall. | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 02:03 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah I would say for the fifth one, you shouldn't have gone to her place. You never want to drive to a girl for a date. You always want the girl to drive to you because it shows some type of investment. If you drive to her, you are making it too easy for her and she might come out on the date just because it's super convenient, but has no intention of hooking up. And then the lunch date obviously you're not going to pull. I personally never do dates where there's not at least the chance I could … | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Wow I just looked at it actually was removed. | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 12:17 AM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Its still up | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 12:16 AM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah it's definitely not 100% the numbers game, you do still have to meet certain pretty requisites. But once you meet those standards, it's pretty much all a numbers game. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 10:31 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah, you'll get those girls every once in awhile. This is why understanding the numbers game is important. There's so many different factors that go into why a girl wouldn't hook up with you. And the majority of them are not the guys faults. If you're hooking up with practically zero dates, then it's probably your fault. But I would say if you're hooking up with anywhere between 1/3 to 1/2 of your dates, that's pretty good. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 06:57 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Wow you're so Noble and moral. I don't know how I could ever live up to such a paragon of virtue. Me knowing how to get sex and relationships means that I'm totally incapable of Love or wanting a family in the future right? Yeah those things are totally incompatible with each other. It's not like people go through different stages in life in their priorities change or anything. Yep, you are just super deep and thoughtful guy and I'm a huge psychopathic douchebag. You figured it all out 😂 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 05:59 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)🤣 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 05:46 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Well I'm never getting married so it's impossible to have a cheating wife. And I'm not sure why you being a loser somehow means that I can't have a connection with a girl. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Your “Average Man” is Not EnoughIf I have nothing good to say then I shouldn't say anything? But your entire post was nothing good. How is what you're doing different from what I'm doing. We're both just saying random negative s***. I never said you weren't allowed to post what you want on reddit. But I'm allowed to come on here and say what I want too. That's how the real world works. Maybe if you accepted that and weren't so much about your feelings and your safe space, you wouldn't be such a huge baby. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 05:38 PM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)🤣 damn you REALLY don't get it. I'm done | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 05:24 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Same thing. It's all loser talk either way. You're one of those guys who was never going to make it anyway. Horrible mindset. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Cool, will post proof and a little article later | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 04:57 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)This post was about my cold approach convo format, not conversion rates. You can't critique a post because it doesn't have information in it that the post wasn't even about. Fine, I'll just make a post about the numbers game. And I'll post screenshots or phone numbers and recent dates. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 04:22 PM |
| 10 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)And yet here you are in the seduction subreddit. People who are below average can never relate to people who are above average. "He's so rich. Doesn't he know there's more to life than money? What an empty existence." "He's so ripped. Doesn't he knows there's more to life than looking good? What an empty existence." "He gets laid a lot. Doesn't he knows there's more to life than pussy? What an empty existence." You're making it sound like I don't also work full time, have hobbies, hang out with … | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 04:16 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Just curious, what things would you disagree with? | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:27 PM |
| 0 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I've already posted my percentages in the comments on this post. Now you're just being butthurt. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:15 PM |
| -2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)K | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:14 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)You don't have to keep EXACT track of that number, but you should have a somewhat general idea. But the fact that you think 40 approaches in a month is a lot says a lot about your experience level. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:07 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Thanks 🙏 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:56 PM |
| -1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)No one is "busy with dates" from only 10 approaches. Credibility lost. I'm experienced enough (and have known plenty of guys who are good) to know when people are talking out their ass or just extrapolating based on their small amount of experience. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:55 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah pretty much 😂 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:51 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Everyone has room to improve, but all you have said as an argument is "I'm questioning it" and "I didn't do this". I fail to see where your actual argument is. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:50 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)If you have a better way and can back it up with consistent real world results, I think that would be valuable to the community. Why haven't you posted your method? | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:44 PM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)But I can't emphasize enough that I literally approach anywhere. Like I'm going about my day and I see a random girl pumping gas, I will pull into the gas station and go over and approach her. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:39 PM |
| 5 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Grocery stores and college campuses | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:37 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Cool, so what's your average approach to lay ratio? | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:35 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Just do the math. 7 years, 52 weeks in a year, 364 weeks. Times 25 approaches a week and you're there. 25 approaches a week is extremely easy. I'm doing that now just on autopilot without trying while working full time, gym, hanging out with friends etc. At my max I was doing 80-100 approaches in a week. Sounds like you just never got good at approaching. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:32 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)What is your average pull rate from dates? And how many of the girls that you pull do you hook up with? | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:23 PM |
| 0 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I'm assuming you have either never approached or approached a very little. There's a certain point where your percentages can't get any better. It's a numbers game. Just like in poker, even the absolute best players in the world can't change the odds of the deck. They are just able to make better use of the odds they are given. You must be a beginner. It's very common for people who are inexperienced to think that you can just infinitely increase percentages and somehow Master seduction to the p… | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:21 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah, this is a beginners guide, but honestly throwing jokes and all that stuff in there will come naturally. Like how I approach is slightly different from this because I'm a little more free form, I was just trying to distill the average format I see into one thing. But it's always a numbers game. What's your conversion rate? Approach to lay ratio I mean. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:09 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)At any point. It doesn't matter. Sometimes in the middle of the conversation I'll just be like, oh damn I'm f****** rude, what's your name? Sometimes I'll actually ask for the number before I even get their name. It doesn't matter too much. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:06 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Just because a girl is physically attracted to you doesn't mean you'll sleep with her. You still need to be confident and forward. Also, it's literally impossible to get a girl if she's not at least somewhat physically attracted to you. That's just one of the standards you have to meet. The fact you don't know this reveals your inexperience. Sound like some guy that knows a lot of bullshit theory but doesn't actually do it. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:04 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I'm totally fine posting pics of the girls I've hooked up with so you can judge the attractiveness yourself. Not sure if that's allowed, I can blur out faces. Most of them are bent over on my bed though so shouldn't be a problem 😂 The fact you think that there's a different strategy for different girls just shows your lack of confidence in yourself. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:02 PM |
| 10 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I'm not sure what you're referring to. But keep in mind YouTubers purposely do things to get kicked out so it makes it in their video. If you're just a normal guy walking around the mall and approaching girls, nothing is going to happen. I literally just approached 15 girls at the mall last weekend and nothing happened. I actually did it two days in a row, Saturday and sunday. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:51 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Thanks a lot 🙏 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:48 PM |
| 4 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)You can always tell guys who get it because they comment on small things that other guys don't realize is important. The whole "stick with the script" and "don't calibrate" thing is deeper than most guys realize. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:47 PM |
| 10 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I stopped keeping track at 200. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Your “Average Man” is Not EnoughI have no problem with people struggling. I have a problem with whiny babies just looking for validation on the internet. You didn't even ask a question. You just posted your situation and whined the whole time. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:36 PM |
| 6 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah...that's literally the point of the post... Literally first paragraph says it doesn't matter what you say, but the structure is for newbies just to latch onto something at the beginning. And yes the girl has to be attracted to you...Am I missing something here? | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:34 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I would only ask about immediately if there's a huge time constraint. I've done that plenty before. But if you have time, should have at least a 1 minute or so conversation so they can get a feel for your vibe. Also the conversation shows that you are confident and comfortable with yourself. Asking for the number too quickly is usually a sign of anxiousness and lack of confidence because you can't just stand there and have a conversation. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:31 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)And by the way, I'm not sure if these percentages seem low to you, but these are actually pretty good. Even the best guys in the world get pretty low percentages. The only reason why people think that high percentages are normal is because pick up artists online sell you a dream because they know guys want to avoid rejection so they pump up the numbers. Just like how the fitness industry tells you you can lose weight just by taking a pill. Or the make money online niche tells you that you can ma… | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:24 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I would say if your city has at least 200,000 people, you can cold approach. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:22 PM |
| 0 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I guess all these girls I fucked from giving them a compliment about their looks just don't count 🤷 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:21 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)My average stats: 100 approaches 35ish approaches 6ish dates 3ish lays The exact numbers don't matter, because percentages can be higher or lower depending on the venue you're approaching in and the demographic of girls you are approaching. I've been gaming for 7 years and have over 200 lays just from cold approach. I don't know the exact number, I stopped keeping track because it's not really a worthwhile metric to track. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:21 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)You can't control if she'll flake or not. She's going to do what she's going to do. If she likes you she likes you, if she doesn't she doesn't. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:19 PM |
| 4 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Well I'm 34 and have been gaming since I was 27, so that's 7 years. When you're interactions are short and you can approach in literally any situation, and you take one or two chunks out of your week just to go out and approach, it's extremely easy to hit 50 plus approaches a week. Times that by 7 years. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:16 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I've been gaming for 7 years. I'm 34, started when I was 27. I have somewhere over 200 lays, I don't keep track anymore because it's just a consistent thing I do now. But it's been at least 200 since about 6 months ago. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:14 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yes having big approach days is better than doing a handful of approaches spread out. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:13 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)You honestly don't really need to build that much sexual tension. Just be expressive and confident, and then ask her back to your place at the end of the date. It doesn't matter what you do, there's some girls that you're just not going to hook up with. I've been doing this for years and even I only hook up with approximately half the girls I go on dates with. If you're just starting out, you might only hook up with a quarter of the dates. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:12 PM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)My average stats: 100 Approaches 35ish numbers 6 dates 3 lays | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:10 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Literally anywhere | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:09 PM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)It's basically the same thing. Comment on something about their profile. Have two or three lines of back and forth, then invite them out and get their number. But it is still a numbers game. Most swipes and messages and conversations will end in rejection. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:07 PM |
| 5 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)No one who actually tries and puts themselves out there is a pu$$y. As long as you are trying overcoming your fears, you're good. It's the people that make up excuses and don't do anything that are babies. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:05 PM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yes that's the point. It's called the numbers game. Most girls will be unavailable. And a girl will only go out with you if she finds you at least someone physically attractive. I don't know what makes you think that I didn't realize this was part of the equation. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:03 PM |
| 9 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Okay don't do any of the work. But then don't get mad when other people have girlfriends and relationships and you don't. The universe doesn't care about how you want things to be. All that matters is what actually is in the real world. If you're not confident now, become confident by improving yourself in some way. Go to the gym. Start cold approaching girls with the format I literally just posted. Stop being a baby. You don't get any rewards or special treatment for complaining or talking abou… | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:01 PM |
| 1 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:59 PM |
| 7 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)I used to keep track of the stats fairly meticulously. I kept track of my approaches up until about 4,000 approaches. And then I just estimated based on the fact that I've been doing 50 plus approaches every week for the past 2 years (well last 6 months have only been about 25 per week actually cuz I'm focusing on something else at the moment). It's honestly probably closer to 9k. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:58 PM |
| 3 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah that just sounds like a whole bunch of extra work for no gain. I'm not saying it CAN'T work, it's just that it's extra work for no benefit. Any method technically will work if you are confident and can escalate and move the interaction forward. Going direct just gets you in the habit of being able to be direct and escalate. And also you don't have to keep track of all that extra stuff. Maybe it does take more skill to do indirect, I don't know. But I don't care about how much skill somethin… | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:54 PM |
| 8 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)You just go up to them in whatever way you can. You are opening directly so they already see you as confident and direct. One thing I've learned is that if the girl is available and would be down to hang out with someone, and she finds you attractive, she will be wanting you to come up to her. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:49 PM |
| 13 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)No one cares. I approach at malls all the time. There's no secret hack. You just need to realize no one cares. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Your “Average Man” is Not EnoughI knew I'd find a comment like this. You don't actually care about getting what you want. You just want to be all emo on the internet and have people validate your stupid emotions. I'm sure when you're on your deathbed you'll be really proud of all the sad points you got on the internet. Not even gonna bother responding to any other comment you make, it's all gonna be loser talk. Unbelievable. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Your “Average Man” is Not EnoughI guess kill yourself then? Not even sure what the point of this post is other than childish crying and trying to get emotional validation from people on the internet. Quit being a fucking baby and BECOME above average. Go to the gym. Dress edgier/sexier. Go approach girls and talk to them and get better at it. Do anything other than be a little whiny baby on the internet. And get the fuck off Instagram and whatever dumbass apps you have. The universe doesn't care that you're sad. You'll either … | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:25 AM |
| 2 | Being lead on or shit test?She's not interested. Move on | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:20 AM |
| 7 | Catching feelingsImprove yourself to the point that you can get hotter girls. I'm assuming she's the hottest, or one of the hottest, girls you've been with. THAT'S the main thing you're upset about. Make yourself hot and fuck hotter girls. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:19 AM |
| 2 | How much does choice of car matter?It matters absolutely none. I drive a regular white 2000 f-150 and do just fine because I look good and I'm confident. Just keep it clean and you're fine. You NEVER want to use money or items to attract a woman in any way. Even if you tried, it wouldn't change things anyway. Think about it: "Wow this guy is attractive, we get along great, confident, social, has cool hobbies. He really is the perfect g-... Wait a minute he drives a Honda? Damn, all those other things are no longer true. Too bad, … | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:14 AM |
| 1 | If you feel like it's time to put the rubber to the road (no pun intended) because you rarely get matches on the apps, dos it make sense to just start cold approaching if you don't have time to update your pictures?It's ALWAYS a good time to start cold approaching. Everyone I know who does cold approaching and online says they get hotter chicks on average from cold approach. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 03:08 AM |
| 13 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Well if you compare it to LA/San Diego/Miami, then maybe not. But for Houston it's decent. Austin is way better than houston, lived there for 2 years. Hotter girls, more stuff to do, doesn't take an hour driving to get from one end of the city to the other. Literally better in every way, except it's a lot more expensive. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:27 AM |
| 15 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Exactly, guys in sales almost always pick this up pretty quickly | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:22 AM |
| 5 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Nice, yeah I've approached there before (lived in Houston for like 3 months a while back). Hot ass girls there. My truck almost couldn't fit under that low ass ceiling the underground parking has though 😂 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:21 AM |
| 9 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)😂 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:59 AM |
| 32 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Just a side note. Most of your confidence/social freedom gains come after ~10 approaches in a day. Here's the general trajectory I've seen with several guys: Approaches 1-5 Slight increase in anxiety Approaches 6-10 Back to baseline, start to feel pretty comfortable Approaches 11+ Each additional approach increases your confidence/social freedom/mood I would recommend having at least one day a week where you do over 10 approaches. The high you get after doing 20+ approaches in a day is awesome. … | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:56 AM |
| 2 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Nice, glad you're taking action 💪 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:51 AM |
| 17 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Thanks 🙏 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:50 AM |
| 58 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yep, numbers game for sure. When a guy can start focusing on the girls he DOES get and not the ones he DOESN'T get, things become so much less stressful. I'm guaranteed not thinking about all the girls who rejected me when there's a girl right in front of me naked on my bed 😂 | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:49 AM |
| 22 | 😎 My Standard Cold Approach Format (that I've used for 8000+ approaches)Yeah if you want you can try to get them on a date. Or if you're just focusing on getting better at approaching/asking for the number for right now, you can just not follow up. But I think it would be good to follow up. Keep in mind that most numbers will not turn into a date. I personally get 1 dates for every 8ish numbers. It's widely variable though and if you're just starting out, your conversion rate will be lower. I can make a post on how to text girls if you want. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:40 AM |
| 2 | YOU ARE GOING TO SUCK AT FIRST! AND THAT'S OK! (long read but worth it 😉)Just posted it | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 12:19 AM |
| 1 | YOU ARE GOING TO SUCK AT FIRST! AND THAT'S OK! (long read but worth it 😉)Awesome, I'll post it in about 2 hours or so when I get done with work. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 11:22 PM |
| 1 | YOU ARE GOING TO SUCK AT FIRST! AND THAT'S OK! (long read but worth it 😉)I'll actually make a post later about how I go about cold approaching girls during the day. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 11:11 PM |
| 1 | YOU ARE GOING TO SUCK AT FIRST! AND THAT'S OK! (long read but worth it 😉)Yeah don't cold approach on your campus if you actually go to school there. That would be a bad idea. But you can totally cold approach pretty much anywhere else. Yes, I cold approach in malls, parks, grocery stores, gas stations, literally anywhere I see an attractive girl. And I've done probably 99% of my approaches without anyone there. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 11:11 PM |
| 3 | I see girls with several sexual partners as unfit for being gf materialIf he wants that, he should go to another country where a higher percentage of girls are like that. Or he will have to approach A LOT of girls in America to find that. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 11:00 PM |
| 2 | YOU ARE GOING TO SUCK AT FIRST! AND THAT'S OK! (long read but worth it 😉)Doing it alone is actually the fastest way to progress. Everyone I currently know who is good, did the majority of their improvement on their own. The ability to do it on your own and not need someone to pump you up or to emotionally rely on is very important. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | I see girls with several sexual partners as unfit for being gf materialAnd you probably have this idealized version of what women are supposed to be. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 10:23 PM |
| 17 | I see girls with several sexual partners as unfit for being gf materialYou're just insecure. Do some self reflection. It's because the more sexual partners a girl has, the more you feel that you aren't special. He probably don't think of yourself as that high value to women. If you did, you would think you were special regardless of how many partners she had. It's insecurity, I promise. I've heard this from literally dozens of guys. With enough questioning, it always comes back to insecurity of their own value. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 10:23 PM |
| 1 | I feel like I lack genuine interest and don't want to spend time asking a stranger about their dayBut if you need a structure, here it is. Go up and give a compliment Ask her name Ask a few questions Ask if she'd like to grab a drink or coffee Get number The way in which you go about this doesn't really matter that much. Just go with whatever feels natural to you. You will get better as time goes on. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 10:20 PM |
| 1 | I feel like I lack genuine interest and don't want to spend time asking a stranger about their dayThere's no cure. I say this genuinely to help you, but you are being a huge baby. Every single person who is good at approaching started roughly where you are. Eventually they just did it even though they were scared. That's a thing a lot of guys don't get. It's not about getting to the point where you're not scared to do in approach. It's about doing it even when you are scared. Courage is not the lack of fear, it's the presence of fear yet the will to go on. So yeah you're just being a scaredy… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 10:17 PM |
| 2 | I need helpIf you've taken this long and not made a move, or she hasn't done anything to put you in a position to make a move, she's not interested. So you can say whatever you want honestly, it's not going to go anywhere. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 10:13 PM |
| 1 | I’m more split than I’ve ever been beforeThe more options you have, the less likely you are to want a relationship. If you knew that you could guarantee get two to four new hot girls a month, you wouldn't want to be in a relationship because you would miss out on those opportunities. The goal is to get to the point where you have that many options. Now I will say, as a 34-year-old man, as you get older your priorities will change somewhat. But in your twenties? Yeah just f*** a whole bunch of girls. You'll probably get into a couple re… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Is a ‘woman’s intuition’ just false mystique?You know what this is actually a very insightful nuance. They aren't naturally "more aware", they are just naturally more CAUTIOUS, which causes them to be more aware of things. This actually fits in nicely with how women are always scanning for value. So basically (with your added point here) women are always either scanning for value or danger. Hmm, just had a little mindset shift there. Thanks for posting this. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 09:19 PM |
| 0 | Is a ‘woman’s intuition’ just false mystique?Yeah haha | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 09:14 PM |
| 0 | Is a ‘woman’s intuition’ just false mystique?Yeah, definitely an evolutionary thing. It's just sad that women feel they have to live up to this image that's portrayed in the media. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Is a ‘woman’s intuition’ just false mystique?I'm so glad I cold approach and don't pay attention to the portrayal of women in social media. All these women are supposedly bad b******, but you come up to them in a grocery store and say excuse me and they jump back in fear. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Are women really intimidated by tall guys?No, you should be getting more attention. I have literally never met a tall guy who had this problem. You are either over analyzing, or something happened a handful of times and you're extrapolating, or you are just an extremely weird person. Tall people get treated better and get more attention on average. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Is a ‘woman’s intuition’ just false mystique?Trade off is that women generally are not aware of themselves. It's like their lens is more focused on outer than inner. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Is a ‘woman’s intuition’ just false mystique?It's both, they are born with a better natural ability to pick up social cues and stuff like that. But I think most of it is just having more interactions to practice with. Women are also on the receiving end most of the time, so it's easy to pick up things when you are just sitting back and observing and not actively working for something. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 08:46 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearWhat a lot of guys do is they will only want sex, and then they'll meet a girl where the only way they can get sex is to get into a relationship or do something else they don't want to do in order to get sex. So if I am in a period in my life where I only want sex, and there's a girl who I theoretically could have sex with if I made her believe there was a possibility I was going to be exclusive with her, I do not interact with that girl anymore. I've missed out on plenty of girls over the past … | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:46 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearWell I'll admit that when I first started, I was only focused on sex and I would do whatever I could to get that. But now I'm good enough and have enough options to where I don't need to do that anymore. Just one of those evolutions you go through as a human. I personally view manipulation as weak, because if you had enough power you would just be able to get what you want without manipulating. Previously in my life I didn't have power over my dating life so I resorted to being more manipulative… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:43 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearOh I think I structured that sentence wrong, here's what I meant. I've never been in a mode where I'm only looking for sex and tried to make a girl think I'm looking for a relationship just to get sex from her. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:39 PM |
| 13 | Shower thought: would you approach a girl you found really attractive but was giving you some serious bitch vibes?This guy gets it. You really can't judge a girl on looks alone. Even during the initial interaction it's easy for guys to misjudge. Some examples are: Girl seems not interested: maybe she's just nervous Girl seems very enthusiastic and interested: maybe she's just extroverted and nice Girl is hesitant about giving number: maybe she wants to but the situation is just stressful for her This is why you have to have your own plan for what you want and stick to it. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:37 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearSometimes just sex, sometimes a casual relationship, sometimes a serious relationship. Whatever I'm looking for, I act in a way that's congruent with what I'm looking for. I've never been in a mode where I'm only looking for sex, but I tried to make a girl think I'm looking for a relationship just to get sex from her. Whatever I'm looking for at that moment, I'm completely congruent with it. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:04 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearYeah that's understandable, not every girl will feel comfortable with it. When a girl isn't comfortable with it, the guy can move on and find a girl who is. It's unfortunate that in order to get good at this, you have to be bad first. And when you're bad at it, some people will be weirded out. Necessary evil unfortunately. But if that guy works on it and gets good, his future potential wife that he finds from cold approaching will be glad he did it. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:02 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearWell there is somewhat of a different skill set that's required when talking to strangers in a cold approach setting versus talking at a social event. So yes I think I should get their general social skills up before going into cold approach. But even guys who have good social skills need to learn how to specifically talk to girls in cold approach settings. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:49 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearYeah that's all I'm really saying honestly. You have a certain mindset and it's totally fine. So if a guy was approaching let's say five women that day, he would approach you and you would be unreceptive but then most likely one of the other girls who he approached would have a different mindset than you and be receptive. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:44 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearThat's a social circle type setting that's different from a cold approach setting. If I'm at a social event, I'm not bouncing around to a whole bunch of different people. I'm specifically talking about cold approaching, which is scenarios where there is no predefined reason why people should be socializing. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:43 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearBecause I'm genuinely trying to find a girl that wants the same thing I want. I think you might be too focused on me using the specific word "numbers". I'm just using that as a general term so that I don't have to explain in depth every single time I want to talk about the concept. I'm fully aware that every girl is their own person and I treat them as such when I talk to them. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:41 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearSo again, that validates my point about being good at something versus being bad at something. If a girl asked me what was beautiful about her, I would tell her exactly what I like about her. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:39 PM |
| 0 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearBut answer your question directly, no I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:36 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearA person doesn't necessarily need to know every single detail about a certain thing to know that it works. You don't need to know exactly how your TV works for you to push a button and turn it on. All you know is that when you push the power button, the TV turns on. So regardless of how I actually arrive at the point to where I have a good dating life and several other guys I've helped have a good dating life, I'm doing the correct thing in some way. Real world results cannot be invalidated, reg… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:35 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearAll this talk about all the intricate details of the process can be debated for an infinite length of time. I have the dating life that I want and I have also helped many other guys get the dating life they want and they are happier because of it. So something about what I'm doing or something about my thought process or mindset is valid. I can only go based on real world results that I've gotten for myself and several other guys. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:32 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearI'm not really understanding your point here. If your goal is to make a connection, and another guy's goal is to also make a connection, what's the problem with him going up to multiple girls to see if there's a connection? | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:31 PM |
| 0 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearBut also, let's just say that that is your strategy and it works for you. Okay great, that works for you. That doesn't work for the large majority of guys. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:28 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearI don't know what you mean when you say Mac. Think you might be assuming that everyone who approaches large amounts of girls does it in a creepy or weird way. Or that it's not genuine for some reason. I'm completely genuine with my intentions. I don't lead girls on or try to do or say things that are dishonest just to get a certain result. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:27 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearI'm not telling guys to approach just any girl. It's assumed that a guy would only approach a girl if she stood out to him in some way. Like I don't approach girls who don't stand out to me in some way. But the main point is, that when guys are first starting and they're trying to get good, yeah they will probably just talk to any girl just to get the practice in. And if that girl thinks in the way that you do, okay that's completely fine. He will talk to another girl and maybe that girl won't f… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:24 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearThere is a reason why some girls view it as manipulative and some girls don't. I don't know the exact reason, but usually people who have that default mindset about something have some type of trauma from the past that makes them think that. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:18 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearOkay let's get off of all those more obscure concepts then, because we can both argue back and forth that there's so many different variables and it's all up in the air and all that stuff. Let's just talk about objective reality. In the real world, I go on dates with girls and have different types of relationships with them. And I cold approached literally all of them, I don't do online dating. So what I'm saying is true and works. We could talk about the reasons behind everything and we could a… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:09 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearYeah I mean it's a numbers game. Just like if you go to a social function, are you going to get along with EVERY single person you talk to? Probably not, and the people you don't get along with, you just stop talking to. It's basically the same thing with approaching. At the party or social event, everyone is basically just another person until you find someone you get along with. With approaching, every girl is just another girl until you find someone who wants the same thing that's how I view … | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:06 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearI didn't say that girls WEREN'T just a number at the beginning stages when you are just approaching. They are, but then some turn into more when you get to know them. I'm saying that a girl being just a number has no bearing on the success of the approach or how the woman will react. I was saying that to highlight that, until I get to know a girl, they're basically all just numbers, but I still get results. And the other guy where each girl was not just a number, he didn't get results. So the mi… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:03 PM |
| 0 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearExplain the contradiction. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:01 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearSee your thing is you have some type of resentment or ego protection mechanism going on and you view this whole thing as manipulative. There is no manipulation. There is no "guy thinks he's smarter than you". I'm approaching women with my intentions fully out there and if she doesn't want to be with me, I respect that. Not sure why you think there's some type of manipulation or trying to pull a fast one on these girls. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 04:00 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearAlso the assumption that he'll only be able to look at girls as a "Daygame" is way off. My last girlfriend who I was with for a year, who the only reason we broke up was because I had to move to a different city and she stayed behind with her family, was a random approach. Are you saying that I viewed her as just another approach the entire time we were in a committed relationship where we traveled and said we loved each other and she moved in with me? | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 03:47 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearHow? He wants to have sex with girls. He's learning to talk to girls to have sex with them. Once he gets good, he's going to go out and find girls who also want to have sex with him. Where's the insincerity? | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 03:46 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearYou might know what it's like being on the approaching end, but that's not your default state. Guys ALWAYS (or a very large majority of the time) have to be on the approaching end. Or they don't get anything. Also, a woman being on the approaching end is a lot different than a guy being on the approaching end. There's some biological differences that come into play. Most guys will accept most advances from most women. Because the guys biological drive is to spread their seed far and wide. A girl… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearYes your opinion is completely valid, all I'm saying is that it's your opinion. So in a scenario when a guy approached you and you turned him down, you would just be in that percentage of women who rejects him. Not a big deal, he will move on and approach another girl who won't reject him. Yeah I'm not trying to say that it's your responsibility at all to do anything. There's some girls who would never ever engage with a guy who approached them. That's completely fine. I'm not in the business of… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 03:38 PM |
| 1 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearBecause women have several biological/social factors that cause them to say and do different things from what actually works with them. For instance, if I had listened to your advice, I would never have started approaching because I was awkward at first. Women subconsciously/accidentally give guys bad advice because they have to deal with certain social pressures to be a certain way. For instance, the girlfriend I talked about, she one time told me about a guy who hit on her. Same exact scenario… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 03:34 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearYou're right, you don't have to engage with them. You can walk away whenever you want. That's another thing I teach guys. Some girls will not want to talk to you. But in order for a guy to get good at talking to girls, he has to actually talk to girls. Talking to strangers is completely different from talking to people you know. I have helped guys who actually have really good social skills and are successful at their jobs, but when it's two strangers and a daytime setting and you are hitting on… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 02:58 PM |
| 6 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearThat's actually part of what I tell guys. Some girls will think you're awesome for coming and talking to them, some will think you're creepy, some will be timid but still want to go on a date and are just shy, some are super extroverted and excited but don't go on a date, some lie about their relationship status to get you to go away, some lie about NOT being in a relationship cuz they like you. You get responses all over the place. The whole point is to go out and find girls who DO like you. Al… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 02:53 PM |
| 3 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearHow could talking to a bunch of girls possibly make you worse at talking to girls? | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 02:47 PM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearI don't blame the girls who don't want to go out with me. I don't try to force anyone to do anything. But also, very large majority of women do not find me creepy anymore because I went out in practice and got good at it. I have plenty of women who do go out with me. And I've helped plenty of guys also get dates and lays and relationships from doing cold approach. So I can only go based on my (and others) real world results, not by what a random girl on the internet says. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 02:46 PM |
| 4 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearHey you're really cute | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 02:30 PM |
| 5 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearIt's things like this why guys say "don't take dating advice from women" | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 02:29 PM |
| 5 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearHow is that even possible? Each girl he talks to is going to be a new girl. Are all these separate girls who are in a big city who don't know each other, all coming together and talking about it? | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 02:28 PM |
| 7 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the year"When guys have confidence issues we can tell they're approaching us for practice it's extremely obvious. A lot of these guys are doing this because they don't have good social skills and it SHOWS." That's exactly the reason why they should approach girls, to get better at it. So what are they supposed to do just never be able to talk to girls? "Also, why would I want to go out on a date with a guy who's using me to fill his quota for the day. That means he's seeing me as a number and not an act… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 02:23 PM |
| 6 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearNo they won't. I approach dozens of girls every week and girls haven't "caught on". I've even had girls say "so do you just go up to random girls and talk to them?" And I just say "only the cute ones" and they usually laugh and I've had some of these girls still come on dates and hookup. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:24 AM |
| 2 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearHow exactly would he develop this reputation? | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:22 AM |
| 7 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearWow what an absolute scared little baby you are 🤣 I have done about 8000+ approaches lifetime and have never come close to having trouble with the cops. Last year I consistently did 50-70 approaches a week and this year I'm still doing about 25-30 a week and have never had a problem. Get off the internet and go outside. It's not what social media and the news say it is. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:20 AM |
| 3 | I turn 25 tomorrow and as a birthday pact I am going to talk to a girl every single day for rest of the yearHey so I'm saying this because I care about you improving, you will need to approach A LOT more girls than 1 a day to see any improvement. With anything you want to get good at there is a certain amount of volume that's needed within a certain period of time for anything to stick (going to the gym 20 times in a month would make you see results, 20 times in a year not so much). There is also a ramp up period for approach. Usually, unless you are already very good and have hundreds or thousands of… | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:14 AM |
| 0 | why are white women so difficult to escalate with compared to black or Hispanic women?I just want to specify that white girls aren't really that much harder, you just have to be a little more forceful and push through and escalate more. | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 12:13 AM |
| 7 | why are white women so difficult to escalate with compared to black or Hispanic women?Look at the second word in my comment 🤣 | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 12:12 AM |
| 3 | why are white women so difficult to escalate with compared to black or Hispanic women?I'm white, good looking, and I'm in at least top 5% physique, and white women annoy the s*** out of me. Yes they put up those extra barriers with everyone. Only like 20% of the girls I hook up with are white. | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 11:58 PM |
| 1 | All my friends have girlfriends expect me and people date within friend groups. What do I do in college?Yes, we will see a year from now if you're in the same place or not | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 09:23 PM |
| 1 | All my friends have girlfriends expect me and people date within friend groups. What do I do in college?You figure out how by doing research, getting data, and then acting on it consistently over a long period of time. And then accepting that over the course of learning, you're going to mess up, be weird, get rejected, question parts about yourself, and you'll still have to keep going. Based on your comments, I don't think you currently have the long term mindset and emotional/mental fortitude to do that. Maybe when you're older. | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 08:08 PM |
| 1 | 15 things I learned from cold approaching over 300+ girlsThat's pretty good, I should specify that I approach girls in literally any situation. I personally approach a lot of girls in scenarios that have inherently low success rates (girl at bus stop and bus is pulling up in 30 seconds, girl is walking with 5 friends or family, driving and I see girl walking on sidewalk and I can't pull over so I just roll down my window and oper her that way). This is why I tend to not focus on conversion rates too much. Same guy could go from approaching on a colleg… | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 07:50 PM |
| 2 | All my friends have girlfriends expect me and people date within friend groups. What do I do in college?So you're "extremely in shape" but not attractive enough for cold approach? And you made connections but NONE of them turned into anything? You are either lying, exaggerating, or are just straight up being extremely weird. No guy who looks good, has decent social skills/confidence, and can approach and escalate with the girls who are interested, has a consistent lack of girls. You either aren't in as good a shape as you say (extremely would be like sub 10% bodyfat with 20-30 pounds of additional… | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 07:24 PM |
| 4 | All my friends have girlfriends expect me and people date within friend groups. What do I do in college?All of your replies are either negative, excuses, or asking how to do stuff without putting in any research or work on your part. You'll find that none of our advice will work for you because you're most likely not going to take massive action on any of them. | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | How many approaches it takes you to get a number\equivalentI've made half court shots in basketball, but can I do that MOST of the time? No | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 06:49 PM |
| 1 | How many approaches it takes you to get a number\equivalentDoes no one in this subreddit understand the difference between an average result and an outlier result? I get numbers from girls in relationships too, and have had hookups with girls in relationships, what I'm saying is that's not the average. As in, MOST girls who are in relationships will not give you their number. | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 06:48 PM |
| 1 | 15 things I learned from cold approaching over 300+ girlsMy average stats (other guys I know have roughly these numbers as well): 100 approaches 35 ish numbers, will be higher or lower depending on approach venue and demographic of girls you are approaching 6ish dates 3ish lays | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | What's some harsh truths /r/seduction needs to hear?Point number 3 is absolutely wrong. I hook up on the first date with approx 1/3 - 1/2 of the dates I get from cold approach. | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 05:56 AM |
| 0 | 15 things I learned from cold approaching over 300+ girlsThis is one of those comments that let's actually experienced people know you have no idea what you're talking about. Next you'll be saying how you have a 10% conversion rate, or you have some guaranteed way to get x result every single time, or some other ridiculous claim. There is not a single person who consistently approaches and actually gets laid from it that doesn't acknowledge that it's mostly a numbers game. Even most guys that are very good have a max of 3-5% lay to approach ratio. So … | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 04:57 AM |
| 1 | How many approaches it takes you to get a number\equivalentYour comments come across as someone who has no or very little real world experience, but reads a bunch of stuff about pickup and tries to extrapolate that into what they think it's like in real life. Tell tale sign of people who do this is they think everything is more exaggerated than it is. "I get numbers from 90% of approaches!" "I had this crazy situation happen yesterday! A situation that even guys who make 50+ approaches per week only get very sporadically, but somehow I had it happen yes… | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 04:41 AM |
| 1 | How many approaches it takes you to get a number\equivalentOk well you're committed to the lie now so I understand you're not going to backtrack and admit it. I won't press you anymore after this comment, but you're lying about this too. Can't remember the last time you didn't get a number? Even someone who only did like 5 approaches a month would have at least 1 of them not give you their number. And even if you only did 5 approaches a month for an entire year, eventually one of those months you would hit a random string of girls that didn't give you t… | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 04:34 AM |
| 1 | How many approaches it takes you to get a number\equivalentThis comment is the equivalent of saying that you can make 90% of baskets from half court with your back turned. And then someone says that's impossible and you say "no it's not, I just did it yesterday!". Ok maybe you did do it yesterday, but you don't do it 90% of the time. | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 03:43 AM |
| 1 | How many approaches it takes you to get a number\equivalentYes I've had similar situations happen as well, but it's not common. I've had plenty of crazy situations happen that are 1 in 50, 1 in 100, 1 in 1000, etc, but those are outlier situations. You do not get numbers from 90% of your approaches you just don't. No one does. Literally no one. I know several guys that have done thousands of approaches (up to ~8000, which is about where I'm at), that get anywhere from 20-50 lays per year just from cold approach, and I'm in a private Facebook group and a… | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 03:40 AM |
| 1 | How many approaches it takes you to get a number\equivalentYeah I just read all these comments and these guys are talking out of their ass. At least 1/3 of girls will be in a relationship, so they won't give you their number just based on that. And then there's girls who are in a bad mood for some reason or who are at a period in their life where they just don't want to meet a new person and there's a whole bunch of other reasons a girl won't give her number. I absolutely promise, there is not a single person in the world who gets a number anything clos… | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Girls with attitudeYou didn't answer my question. The question was do you look above average? If you can't confidently say yes, then that's a no. The reason why they matters is because girls will treat you differently depending on how attracted they are to you. So if a girl is not attracted to you, there is absolutely nothing you can do to win her over. You need to meet her minimum attractiveness threshold. Two personal examples. Downtown at night. Saw this girl get approached by a guy. He looked confident, spoke … | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Girls with attitudeMeaning combination of body, face, and style. | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Girls with attitudeAre you currently above average looking? | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 07:50 PM |
| 0 | Girls with attitudeI said if EVERY (or the majority) of girls you talk to are like this, it's the guys fault. It means the guy doesn't measure up in some way. Either looks, social skills, or confidence. You improve your social skills by going to social events and talking more. Specifically with women, you improve your social skills and confidence with them by talking to a bunch of them. At first you will suck, but slowly you will get better and a more comfortable which will lead to you being more confident. But th… | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | How do you talk to attractive girls like normal human beings?Ok report back in 3 months and see if you still have the problem. | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 06:15 PM |
| 1 | How do you talk to attractive girls like normal human beings?Yeah that won't work | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 03:36 PM |
| 1 | How do you talk to attractive girls like normal human beings?You have all the info you need. Cold approach attractive girls and ask for their number. It will take hundreds of approaches before getting comfortable. | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 12:57 AM |
| 1 | How do you talk to attractive girls like normal human beings?Just asking that question means you're probably not going to do it. | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Why does being brash and arrogant work so well with women?Oh you're one of those, got it | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 12:56 AM |
| 2 | Anyone here watch Playing with fire’s YouTube I need your helpAny time you are this worried about one girl, it never works out. Play your long game and report back to us. | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 12:55 AM |
| 1 | How can I get approached by men first?Side note, don't listen to the guys talking about guys being scared to approach, not looking bitchy etc. Most guys won't approach a girl, but there's some that will. And guys with the balls to approach, generally approach based on looks only and they don't care if the girl looks b***** or nice or whatever. You're not attractive enough yet. | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | How can I get approached by men first?I cold approach on a very regular basis, I only approach girls I'm attracted to. If I'm not attracted to her, I don't approach. If you're not getting approached as a girl in America, you are a 6 or lower. Any girl who's actually above average gets approached. Lose weight until you look better than at least 70% of girls and you'll start getting approached. | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 12:02 AM |
| 1 | How can I get approached by men first?You're not attractive enough. That's it | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Are we as men working too hard to get women?Everything seems hard when you're not good at it | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Anyone here watch Playing with fire’s YouTube I need your helpThis won't turn out well. Any time you need to throw a hail Mary and you've put this much time/thought into it, it never works out. But report back to us with the results | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Why does being brash and arrogant work so well with women?What a dumb comment "There's exceptions you guys!" Oh really? There's an exception? Just like there's exceptions to literally everything? Wow, great value you added. You might as well have said "well SOME people win the lottery!" | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Are girls who want to chat/vibe over text before coming out common?And if a girl says something like "is that your pickup line of the day", that means you're coming off too gamey and indirect. | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Are girls who want to chat/vibe over text before coming out common?They are called time wasters. You can't vibe through text. | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:49 PM |
| 4 | How do you talk to attractive girls like normal human beings?You talk to a bunch of them. At first you'll be awkward and unconfident, but slowly but surely you'll get used to being with attractive girls. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY. You can't get good at anything unless you do it a bunch and suck at first. You have to talk to attractive women a bunch and suck. If you say some variation of "it's too awkward" or "you're scared", oh well, looks like you're not gonna get good at talking to attractive girls. | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Girls been follow similar patterns?You're resentful/bitter and overreacting. Just accept the gesture. Typical female behavior. Also you have an ego, which in this case comes from the resentment/lack of trust of women. You're coming off too sappy and friendly. Yes almost all women are like this to some degree. So to sum it up, you come off either clingy, emotional, or too friendly, you have residual bitterness and trust issues, and you haven't accepted women for what they are. Lotta self reflection needed here. | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Girls with attitudeJust FYI, douche is ALWAYS used by insecure people. I've never heard the word douche used by a secure/confident person. I would stop using it. | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Girls with attitudeWhat do you WANT to say? | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:30 PM |
| 0 | Girls with attitudeIf every girl a guy runs into has an attitude, that's the guy's fault, not the girl's. He either needs to up his looks or his social skills/confidence are horrible. | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 11:29 PM |
| 1 | How can I get better at texting women?Texting makes almost no real difference in the overall scheme of things. What's the actual problem you're asking about? Approached and got a number but then it falls? Number from online then they flake? We need to know the specific thing you're talking about so we can diagnose what the problem is. | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 03:40 PM |
| 1 | How can I get better at texting women?Texting makes almost no real difference in the overall scheme of things. What's the actual problem you're asking about? Approached and got a number but then it falls? Number from online then they flake? We need to know the specific thing you're talking about so we can diagnose what the problem is. | /r/seduction | 17/06/22 03:40 PM |
| 1 | How do I keep girls I meet in club interestedPhysically escalate and just openly show interest. The whole playing aloof and trying to come across super cool is dumb as f***. Girls have really fragile egos, if you don't show interest, they will lose interest because they don't want to get rejected. I escalate pretty quickly and openly show interest and I pull girls fairly consistently from night game. | /r/seduction | 11/06/22 01:48 AM |
| 1 | So I am a police officer, very pretty girl, no BS. I was told I am 8-9. Why guys are afraid to approach me and just say hi, or is it the idea of dating a cop is scary?Well obviously they wouldn't want to hit on you with your uniform on. That's obvious. But outside of that, I would heavily downplay you being a cop and make sure to come across EXTRA friendly/feminine on any dates to compensate. And very easy going and chill, like he doesn't have to worry about "oh is this completely legal/will she care about this?". Maybe throw a line in there that even though you're a cop, you don't 100% follow the law all the time (which is probably true anyway, cops are peop… | /r/seduction | 07/06/22 07:41 PM |
| 9 | Tinder makes me depressed!It's clear you've done zero or very little Daygame. Every single guy I've ever known who does online AND Daygame has said that they get hotter girls from Daygame. Not just because hotter girls tend to not have to use online, but also because you don't have to rely on an algorithm to be shown to a hot girl. You can just walk right up to her. And you can use things other than looks. And since the girl actually saw you in person, she actually puts you AHEAD of any guys she sees online. NOTHING beat… | /r/seduction | 07/06/22 07:22 PM |
| 1 | You are enough to take action as you are right now. You don't need to be perfect or maxed out at everything, life's too short for that😂 unbelievable | /r/seduction | 06/06/22 05:57 PM |
| 2 | You are enough to take action as you are right now. You don't need to be perfect or maxed out at everything, life's too short for thatAt the end of the day, when everything is said and done, you will have the same problems a year from now. | /r/seduction | 06/06/22 03:51 AM |
| 1 | You are enough to take action as you are right now. You don't need to be perfect or maxed out at everything, life's too short for thatAll this talking is doing nothing. The point is I'm about 99% sure you won't make the improvements you want because you are much too negative. The only thing that matters is if you achieve what you want to achieve, which you won't. I've talked/worked with enough people to know the signs, you'll talk and say whatever you're gonna say, but in the end, you won't accomplish what you want. People who want something enough will find a way. Some way, somehow, they'll find a way to make it happen. You a… | /r/seduction | 06/06/22 03:47 AM |
| 1 | You are enough to take action as you are right now. You don't need to be perfect or maxed out at everything, life's too short for thatI didn't say it was easy. That's your problem, you don't want to do legitimately hard things. Something being hard is 0% a reason to not do something. | /r/seduction | 06/06/22 03:02 AM |
| 0 | You are enough to take action as you are right now. You don't need to be perfect or maxed out at everything, life's too short for thatI didn't say you couldn't, but it's clear you just want people to feel sorry for you and you don't care about actually improving. And actually it is hurting someone, yourself. I guess knock yourself out "blurting out your pain" while other people are actually taking action and getting what they want. | /r/seduction | 06/06/22 12:27 AM |
| 0 | You are enough to take action as you are right now. You don't need to be perfect or maxed out at everything, life's too short for thatYou want to give you a pat on the back and tell you everything is going to be ok? You need a tissue? Why did you even post such a dumb comment if you weren't just looking for attention. If you were really hopeless, why are you posting or looking at this content? | /r/seduction | 04/06/22 01:53 AM |
| 2 | She did not invite me to her birthdayDude you are WAAAAAAY overreacting to this. It was just a little test to see how you handled it, and it worked. She revealed that you overthink things way too much and pay too much attention to small things and get extremely emotional over them. DO NOT talk with her about this. She did nothing wrong and she will see it as you overreacting, or if it was a little test to see how you react, you will show that you can't handle any uncertainty. If you react like this to small things, I can only imagi… | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 04:17 AM |
| 1 | Cold approaching is really insaneNope, there is not a single guy I know who gets laid from cold approach on a regular basis who gets dates from most of his numbers. Not a single one. Even most coaches don't say that's possible and most of them exaggerate their results. | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveHow do I message you? | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveAlso I like how you completely sidestepped all the OTHER evidence I said I would provide. Literally anything other than face or personal info of a girl I can provide. Literally have full 2+ hour Livestreams of me approaching in real time, date and lay reports with pics of girls and text convo screenshots. How many girls I approached, how many Rejections, what I say because you can hear me talking, how I text. I will 100% provide any of that stuff. But I know that you don't actually want it becau… | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveI will show you any evidence that is not the personal numbers of girls or face pictures. I can show pics with the face blocked out and numbers as in their name I have them saved as in my phone along with full text convos. | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 03:58 AM |
| 0 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveBut knowing you because you don't actually want to get better and I'm pretty sure you're just trolling at this point (at least I hope so because it would be truly pathetic for a guy to have the mindset you do), you'll probably ask for something stupid like "show me the personal phone numbers and face pics of girls you've hooked up with" | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveI've done about 7000 approaches in my life and gotten over 200 lays (about 30 of them from online) and I've worked with a bunch of guys and helped them with cold approaching. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Ask for any type of proof you want and I'll provide it. Literally name it. I can show all the numbers/text convos of girls I've gotten in the last month, pics of girls I've hooked up with, testimonials from guys I've helped, Livestreams of me approaching. Name it and I can prove it. | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveAh gotcha | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 03:00 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveJesus Christ you are such a fucking bitch. You literally probably like that I'm calling you a bitch right now because it just gives you attention. Have fun complaining and never getting the women you want. You truly are pathetic. No wonder you are having trouble with women. | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveDang, I guess all the lays I've gotten from cold approach over the last 6 years, 95% of which we're just girls that I went up and talked to and they showed no previous signs of interest, have been bullshit 😂 | /r/seduction | 26/02/22 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveThis guy gets it | /r/seduction | 26/02/22 11:50 PM |
| 0 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveLOL, guy tries to help you and even tells you to look at his field reports to get a feel for it and you just say no. I can see now why you suck at cold approach. Straight women don't want to date another woman. | /r/seduction | 26/02/22 11:48 PM |
| 3 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveSo then if looks are so important, why don't you just improve your looks? Go to the gym. Dress and groom yourself better. | /r/seduction | 26/02/22 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveThis guy just wanted to get online to complain. Pathetic. | /r/seduction | 26/02/22 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveYou're right, it's a little harder for you so you should just give up. In fact anyone who's ever below average at anything should not even try because it will be harder for them. Makes complete sense. You should have told your philosophy to Kobe bryant, who didn't score a single basket when he went to his first basketball camp for 3 months. | /r/seduction | 26/02/22 11:44 PM |
| 3 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveYou don't get laid 1 out of 10 approaches. Guys with top tier looks and amazing charisma don't even get those numbers. You're either lying or you are underestimating the amount of approaches you do. Or you only approach in a very small subset of situations that have a really really high likelihood of succeeding. | /r/seduction | 26/02/22 11:42 PM |
| 0 | Cold Approaching is most of the time extremely ineffectiveOk you're just lazy, got it. Saying something is a waste of time or takes a lot of time is not a legit excuse for literally anything in life. Going to the gym takes a lot of time, going to school to be a doctor takes a lot of time, literally everything worth doing takes a lot of time if you want to be above average at it. It's only a waste of time if you are not improving. You know it's an even bigger waste of time? Thinking of all the reasons why you can't get a girl and then years down the lin… | /r/seduction | 26/02/22 11:35 PM |
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