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13% of the population BTW. I think most people have no problem whatsoever with black actors and actresses in major entertainment, but it should be based on merit, and it shouldn't be disproportional or forced. Some of my very favorite actors of all time are black, like Denzel Washington, among many others. But the woke shit is getting excessive.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 12:50 AM
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I'm happy for you, but maybe you were more prepared for the experience because you really should have been born as a man from the beginning. This woman was a lesbian, but by no means was she trans.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 05:29 PM
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It's a very, very sad situation. I generally agree it should be up to the individual to make the final determination on assisted suicide, because nobody knows what it's like to be them except for them, however at the same time I'm cognizant of the fact that people who are not in the right state of mind often make the wrong choices for themselves. We should encourage them to try therapy and other alternative means of reconciling their internal conflicts if we can.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 05:18 PM
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100% correct again, we can't remain indignant about whatever disadvantage we were born with forever. That is quitters talk. That's why things like white privilege bother me so much, because I know people will use that as a crutch to accept mediocrity in their own lives, and the anger will fester like a disease. It's counter-productive to go around pointing fingers at other people and saying 'why wasn't I born white or in a good family'? I want to be like, mother fucker, be the change you want to…
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/22 03:25 AM
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One might say, if it was easy, then that would reduce how amazing it is to be self-actualized as a person. It is the struggle of life and overcoming obstacles that gives it meaning. If there were no struggle, no obstacles, no risk of failure, then it would devalue the end product.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 10:11 PM
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WTF does that even mean bro?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:42 PM
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Yeah 100%, I think we manifest our own realities, basically. We control whether we're going to be optimistic or pessimistic. We control how other people negatively affect our emotional state. We control whether we let people walk all over us or whether we stand up for ourselves. We can choose to be better. And when we are better people, we lead by example, and other people see that and want to be a part of that, because they know it's the way (like your dad). The worst lies are the ones we tell …
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 08:30 PM
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I didn't mean it like that, just offering my perspective.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 07:15 PM
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Lieing is definitely bad, but people also have a strong tendency to dwell on the past and regrets. You cannot change the past, if you're not learning some important lesson from it, then it's irrelevant.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 06:51 PM
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They fear what they can't control and doubt their own capacity to refute it. I think MrsDegree possibly entered into a marriage contract where she fully exploited some beta for her own happiness and fulfillment. But now she doesn't have much to do with her carefree easy-mode life, except to fuck with other people online and stifle their growth as individuals. It's a rather sad situation quite honestly. But as sad it may be, it's also irrelevant, because we're done dealing with that bitch no matt…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 05:44 PM
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>"stop objectifying us!" - is bc they like to be objectified when convenient and only see men as objects - either a wallet - """provider"""". or a """protector"""" - aka they think their lives are more valuable than men's, and all men should die to protect them . I get what you're saying brother, but in a very practical sense, women are more valuable to society and the world as a whole. Women to some degree had to be somewhat ruthless to survive the shitstorm of human evolution. It's been sugges…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 08:56 PM
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What sort of disheartening speculation is that?
/r/MensRights14/09/22 08:47 PM
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I realize that, my point is the world is really fucked up, and picking a bride from Eastern Europe is the least of our problems as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:12 AM
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Men aren't suppose to be the choosey ones, we're suppose to be desperate as fuck for their affections. That's how they want it to be anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:53 AM
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Good for him. These women here often have a bad attitude anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 02:50 AM
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A lot of people can't just easily date a regular woman, first of all. And secondly, even regular women here have some pretty high expectations in comparison to what they can offer a man. In my mind a regular woman is not someone morbidly obese or possessed by a negative feminist attitude, just as one example of the unacceptability of western women. These other cultures are not only uninfected by the horrible western diet, but they're also uninfected by the corrosive feminist attitude that has re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:28 AM
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If you want to see exploitation, take a look at the poor people who make your iphone in China. The bottom line is these women will probably have a better life for themselves and their children with Western men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:56 PM
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No, the goal is to obliterate the unreasonably high expectations that western women have upon men that are objectively less educated than they are now. There's a market dislocation currently, and the market is adjusting to fill the gap and maybe close it someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:53 PM
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It's a product of nature. Importation of exotic genes have the potential to introduce additional benefits to the whole, providing a more robust and diversified genetic diversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:52 PM
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Yeah, I've been speaking up about the idea of Ukrainian women for a while now. I think the potential is strong right now to find a great wife and do something to help your fellow human species as well, as those people are truly suffering over there very badly. We all know that every relationship or marriage is partially transactional, you just have to exert some due diligence to ensure it isn't 100% transactional.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/22 10:32 PM
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If the bar wasn't low for men I don't think humans could have survived as a species.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/22 08:56 AM
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Moving could also be great to keep that 'meet the parents' bullshit to a minimum given his unstable situation.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 06:48 AM
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Yes, you do actually need to meet some minimum of being a well rounded individual to succeed. But once you start exercising and feeling better it's easy to do.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 05:34 AM
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A few comments to make here. Your height is not bad, but it's certainly not ideal (6 feet+). Your BMI is normal, but you probably don't do much strength training (another minus). And as sad as it may be, being muslim and non-white is not a boon to your dating case with white women, it's a negative unless dating another muslim (so you may have to rely on family connections or alternative means to find a girl). Your personality might be able to be improved, but I doubt that is what's holding you b…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 04:50 AM
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:)
/r/MensRights07/09/22 06:10 PM
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We all understand that.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 05:56 PM
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Very thought provoking dedication in her honor.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 06:49 AM
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History suggests human civilizations follow a cycle or pattern, and I see no evidence technology will somehow save us. But it may make it easier to rebuild after the shit hits the fan.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/22 06:24 AM
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Don't forget about money and status, that is wrapped up in it too. It's all about that LMS.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 07:49 PM
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Men have trouble dealing with the fact they're little more than a wallet with a dick attached, women have trouble dealing with the fact they're a depreciating asset. This is what happens when you throw the sexual marketplace into chaos like this. Return to 1950's dating/marriage or GTFO.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 06:09 AM
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Bruh, if men weren't thirsty as fuck compared to women the human race would have died out a long time ago.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 05:43 AM
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Once you go blackpill you never come back.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 05:32 AM
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It's a fake pill for fake people. Yeah, some dark triad types can make use of it, but for the most part, it's not going to work for most people. If you can't be yourself in a relationship, what is the fucking point?
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 05:14 AM
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I know, I was there near the beginning. I was an endorsed contributor at one time, believe it or not. But I realized TRP is bullshit.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 05:11 AM
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It says it's mostly bullshit, you're either attractive or you're not, no amount of game theory is going to change that fact.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 05:08 AM
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Yeah, game theory and all that is kind of bullshit unless you can get the girl to speak to you.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 05:07 AM
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That's a decent place as well.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 08:52 PM
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Malders gonna mald. If there was some incredible country for women to go find the perfect man and bring him home men would be malding just the same. It's just men are a lot easier to please than women, because their standards are so high.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 08:38 PM
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I highly recommend Ukrainian women for anyone interested in taking the plunge, once the war settles down of course.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 08:35 PM
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Precisely, I said the exact same thing to another person in this thread. Certainly she wasn't going to be the perfect man, but are any of us perfect? We are all flawed in some way. Some are less masculine. Some are short, more feminine in facial features, etc. We all fall short of the most ideal in some way.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 05:56 AM
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Bro, I feel like recognizing people like Norah is how we get there. It's not going to be a spontaneous journey to equality. We gotta work for it. Nobody is just going to hand it over to us on a silver platter.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 05:32 AM
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The title leaves something to be desired, but I think if you'll read the comments here you'll understand the level of respect most people are showing for her in this thread.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 05:21 AM
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I said precisely what I meant to say, read it again. It's not as traumatic for men growing up as men, because we literally grow up as men, very slowly. Compared to women, yes, men are the heroes of the human story. But that doesn't make you a hero though. We've always been that, because we're inherently expendable, it's just society doesn't value our contribution at the current time. We also don't need much thanks, because we're men. She accepted trauma unlike you'll ever experience in your life…
/r/MensRights03/09/22 04:29 AM
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I understand that, but she ultimately was changed by the experience and admitted the opposite, that men actually have it harder. This is illuminating knowledge because it comes from a completely non-partisan perspective (a woman trying to be a man to her best ability). I call her a hero for her honesty and bravery. Most people probably couldn't do what she did, but somehow she did it.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 04:09 AM
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Men naturally grow up as men, so we are gradually adjusted to such a condition over many years, but to spontaneously transition to being a man is understandably traumatic given that men disproportionately suffer compared to women. From a woman's perspective they are socialized to be valued by virtue of being a woman, but men are not valued unless they earn it. It's like growing up in a rich family, and then suddenly being poor, versus being born as poor. This is the primary conflict they are fac…
/r/MensRights03/09/22 04:00 AM
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We are strong.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 03:04 AM
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I agree!
/r/MensRights03/09/22 02:48 AM
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I agree, but it gave her an unique perspective that most people never get.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:00 AM
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She was a giant dick. Even more so as a class bound asshole than even as an anti-male feminist. Bruh your previous comment is such a joke I'm not going to entertain anything else your pathetic ass has to say. OMG, WTF?!
/r/MensRights02/09/22 10:39 PM
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Hahahaha! OMG bruh... WTF is wrong with you?
/r/MensRights02/09/22 10:28 PM
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What does it mean?
/r/MensRights02/09/22 10:19 PM
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She is a hero, of that I have no doubt, and I don't have to read her book to know that fact.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 10:14 PM
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Her whole life is a sacrifice. Look what she went through, culminating in suicide.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 10:13 PM
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She was a lesbian, but she wasn't trans, she was still attracted to women. She just wanted to prove that men have it easier in life, and unfortunately the opposite knowledge broke her.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 10:03 PM
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That is very true brother, but fortunately heroes like Norah exist that prove people's suffering is valid, so there is hope.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:58 PM
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I don't read books, but by no means do I not read. I read a lot. And watch/listen. That's how I knew about her years ago, and respected her sacrifice.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:57 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7kP_dd6LU This is all we have, read the book to learn more.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:55 PM
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I agree, I respect her so much I must agree it's a poor choice, but it's one meant to attract appropriate attention to her that is lacking (in honor, not disrespect).
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:52 PM
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Me too!
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:51 PM
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I agree, it's not the best title, but I wanted to ensure appropriate attention to her passing, as it seems most of reddit pretty much passed her over. I did not mean to denigrate her in any way, I regard her as a hero.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:50 PM
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It's accurate.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:49 PM
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Yes, apparently it is true. And in her final breath she gives further knowledge to the world. A life of self-sacrifice like hers makes her a hero in my book.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:08 PM
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Yeah, I just figured that out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7kP_dd6LU
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:58 PM
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Her life is one dedicated to self-sacrifice for the expansion of human consciousness. That's why she's a hero.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:26 PM
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Her documentary on being a man is quite good, if you can find it. I am having difficulties.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:25 PM
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I agree, I did not mean to imply she wasn't.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:18 PM
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Unfortunately she brought up some inconvenient facts the powers that be would rather us remain ignorant to, so she was allowed to pass in relative silence, like she never existed. But we do not forget.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:17 PM
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Norah is an OG legend, her sacrifice won't be forgotten, she expanded the horizons of human consciousness. RIP!
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 03:14 PM
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They'd have a nervous breakdown worse than the Norah did and probably want to kill themselves too.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 03:13 PM
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We don't fuck around.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 03:11 PM
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Must be nice thinking you know everything.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 03:10 PM
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Yes
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 03:03 PM
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It's good that you two are matched, but sometimes there's a big mismatch, and that's not so much fun.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 11:06 PM
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I understand that, but women are often less inclined to have sex regularly than men.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 10:48 PM
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Hey, at least you fuck him, some people don't even care enough to do that much.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 03:38 PM
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I feel that was sufficiently civil and appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:13 PM
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You are literally selfish, yes. I like asian immigration from places like korea or vietnam, that's fine. They have a culture of learning and dedication to excellence. So no, I'm not necessarily anti-immigration or a white supremacist. I'm a realist.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 02:36 PM
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It won't be your choice, you'll pay what we tell you to pay. :)
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 02:33 PM
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It will be someday, because selfish people such as yourself deny their own being and purpose here. Freedom isn't free, it has to be earned. Pay it forward, just as someone else paid it forward for you to be here.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 07:12 AM
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The world needs ditch diggers too. Those lines at mcdonalds might be mighty long waiting for a job though. That's your choice of course.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 02:51 AM
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100% I agree. Be well.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 02:01 AM
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Yet another good reason why young people shouldn't waste their youth getting drunk and fucking random people. That energy is meant to be used on raising children.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:45 AM
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I believe it's wise to give the parents some input on a child's future partner, yes, because young people are simply not equipped to make the mature and correct choice.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:44 AM
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Because there is no need to banish people from society. You jumped to the worst possible outcome in your imagination. That's not appropriate.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:35 AM
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That's your choice.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:49 AM
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You're welcome to dispute it, but it seems all you have as an argument to defend yourself is throwing around insults.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:44 AM
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Your individual criteria of attraction is not relevant to this discussion. If women in poor inner city neighborhoods were behaving properly in their selection criteria then we wouldn't have a 70% out of wedlock birthrate.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:43 AM
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Of course there should be some leeway, but if a man hasn't taken a wife by age 25 he should be brought before a panel of analysts and advisors to determine the issue and solve the problem, and apply recommendations, sanctions or punishments as far as the situation warrants it. Is there a problem of mental deficiency? Lack of effort/focus? Taxation would go up to 50-60% for single men over the age of 25 without a wife. There's a lot of potential pathways of graduated response here to explore with…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:36 AM
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I agree! That is part of the goal the policy is meant to achieve.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:32 AM
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I'm sorry if inconvenient facts disturb you.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:31 AM
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Yes men have to support, that’s their function in society. 20 year old women should marry slightly older men, like 4-5 years older.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 11:59 PM
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Collapse is the most likely outcome anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 11:33 PM
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I don't have a problem with women's scope of choices being more limited if it achieves certain social goals in society. But yes, this is literally a circle jerk right now.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 11:23 PM
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Take less hours/classes, and it's suddenly a lot easier. Also, your choice of discipline might have been too taxing. A degree in business however is quite simple and not overly taxing.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 11:15 PM
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That would be a lot more difficult to implement than my strategy, but I feel like that would only be possible by removing women's suffrage (at a minimum). By pulling the plug on subsidizing education you will certainly get less of it, that's guaranteed, but maybe you're ok with that outcome. In terms of international competitiveness however it would be detrimental. So one must balance a social policy change against the economic costs and need for labor. I believe my policy would be easier for so…
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 11:13 PM
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Plenty of people work and have kids, so I think a lot would. But I would recommend waiting until they are not toddlers before you embark on your educational journey as a young woman. There's nothing wrong with delaying college until you're 26-30.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:56 PM
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My idea years ago is that women that want to go to college need to get married and have 2 kids before they go to college, and we should probably subsidize childcare as an olive branch for the harshness of such a policy change. But it'll never fucking happen, not in our lifetimes at least.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:53 PM
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Yes, but what should we do as a society to encourage this behavioral change? That's where things get tricky and the conversation gets difficult.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:38 PM
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Just meant as an observation for now, but I would note that high numbers of young black men in prison are achieving exactly what he claims to desire in the overall population (just highly localized to some inner city populations). And I feel this policy of putting them in jail for many years is probably necessary until the epidemic of single motherhood is brought under control.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:35 PM
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Eh, I think there's a lot of people, both men and women, that have no business voting. The problem is deciding who should and who shouldn't.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:18 PM
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High levels of violent crime in inner cities are influenced by the fact that this behavior increases their sexual attractiveness to young women. The violence gives them status and power, which attracts young fertile females. In other words, violent thugs get more young pussy and have more babies before they get murdered or sent to prison for sentences of life plus 5,000 years with no parole. And the cycle begins again.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:09 PM
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Just admit you're comfortable in your own ignorance, it has nothing to do with your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:26 PM
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To educate yourself mainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:07 PM
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You could literally be a stay-at-home dad and you'd both be fine, but no, she needs an ATM machine so she can sit at home instead. True gender equality sometimes means role reversals, and that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:33 PM
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This whole "can't marry someone unless they are as successful as me" thing really fucks me up as well.. It's like... yeah, I know, men are just ATM machines to you gals. It's REAL obvious! Who knew gender equality would be so fucking depressing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:31 PM
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Apparently they are, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:21 PM
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Same bitch would be mad if someone was using game theory on her in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:20 PM
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Selection bias, try associating with people outside your social bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:18 PM
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The labor shortages that resulted from the covid-19 lockdowns no doubt convinced them beyond a shadow of a doubt to never take the boot off our collective throats to keep us desperate for that next pathetic paycheck.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 06:22 PM
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Makes a lot of sense from their perspective. They're enjoying her youth. If you have the money you just buy the ass you want.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 06:12 AM
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Well, that's certainly an interesting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:57 AM
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And a lot of those marriages are in a 'dead bedroom' state anyway. Imagine literally paying for a wife that never fucks you and will steal half your shit if you leave. But some people think this situation is more of a joke than that.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 02:41 AM
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I understand where you're coming from, but surely you must know it'll never happen. The only people you're allowed to make fun of in our degenerated society is straight white males. So while this guy may be a loser in a very real sense, I don't think piling on straight white males even more will produce anything of value to anyone. Women's entitlement is sky-high and will stay that way for the foreseeable future.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 02:25 AM
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Sad dudes with money and still can't find a girlfriend. I agree.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 01:50 AM
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Yeah I have often wondered where the endgame is on all this insanity. Economic collapse is a certainty, but I think nuclear war risk is rising too. So we may be in for a complete reset of everything.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 01:48 AM
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Avoid the cost of depreciation too.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 01:38 AM
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Good luck to you and be well.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 01:22 AM
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Many/most outspoken feminists are definitely sipping on that haterade like it's a fine wine. But it's largely a self-inflicted wound. They just can't help themselves, they keep fucking chad, and he keeps dumping them in the trash where they belong.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 01:12 AM
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The girl selling farts is what did it for me. If there are men out there so lonely they are willing to pay just for the sniff of someone's disgusting asshole, nobody should be shitting on another human being for the act of paying for companionship.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 12:58 AM
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When you're lonely any companionship is better than none, even if on some level the interaction is superficial and shallow.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 12:52 AM
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How could you possibly dream of a relationship when you cant even get to first base? These people are lost. That's like dreaming of climbing a mountain with a broken arm and leg.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:47 AM
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That works for some, but not everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:46 AM
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It's not about the confirmation though, we all know we're undesirable. That's all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:43 AM
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That assumes we survive long enough. One incorrect move in the Ukraine conflict and we might be kissing all our asses goodbye here real soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:41 AM
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Women are often like frightened deer, that's why they force men to expose themselves to humiliation when asking women out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:39 AM
1

that's why a man with performance anxiety is a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:35 AM
2

That is correct, 42 years old now, and I've never been on a formal date with anyone. To be fair, part of that is my fault, I haven't tried hard enough to chase after women, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:32 AM
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I don't pay it, not because it confirms my undesirability (that's a given), but because it would be an unfulfilling experience. To me it's pointless unless the other person has genuine desire. I might as well just jerk off at that point. I'm 42 now, and I've never been on a date, because no one has ever agreed, so I haven't had the opportunity to pay for someone's dinner and be disappointed with the aftermath. But keep sipping on that haterade, must taste good...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:28 AM
0

That's just not true, I think many men here want companionship/romance. I know I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:20 AM
1

That is what nature intended. By having a wide disparity between sexually successful and unsuccessful men, women can disproportionately replicate the best dna possible and trash the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:17 AM
1

I don't want them to disappear, it's just if I try to fuck a fat chick I can't even finish. Literally unfuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:14 AM
1

Glow up?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:09 AM
2

Source?
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 12:01 AM
3

Maybe he is an idiot, but I've seen some married life situations that are far more absurd than this.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 11:07 PM
2

I don't know, I feel like humanity's capacity for self-delusion is perhaps one of our best qualities. Religion is bullshit too of course, but it gives people a lot of hope and joy. It seems like it would be nice to have faith in something. It's impossible for me of course, but 'ignorance is bliss' seems to apply in more ways than one in life.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 11:01 PM
3

The only question in my mind is how much money matters, and I feel like many people pretend it doesn't though.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 10:56 PM
3

If you're were rich you would rarely need to pay that amount of money to get a girl. I understand that. This guy overpaid by a lot. Good study though.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 10:52 PM
2

I agree.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 10:41 PM
1

It would be easy to just lie to family and friends and call it a real relationship. If I was rich I wouldn't let society's outdated moral frameworks impede doing what I want to do. They can stick their judgment up their ass as far as I'm concerned.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 10:37 PM
1

This assumes love actually exists, does it? Not so sure. You can also just pretend she does have affection.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 10:32 PM
2

Learn to give less fucks bro, then there is no shame. It's all in your head and what other people are pushing on you (often just to control your behavior by the way). It's all bullshit, a shadow on the wall. Do what you want with your life.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 10:24 PM
3

A lot of normies would probably take a giant shit on this guy (like his real-life friends he's afraid to admit this to), but honestly I don't see anything wrong with this at all. I genuinely feel like there is a monetary component to relationships that is inescapable. Sure, some people genuinely enjoy the company of other people, but without money it's like eating sand. Men always pay for it to some degree, and we often lie to ourselves about how much that component really matters. And then ofte…
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 10:18 PM
2

I don't believe that is necessarily true for all women, but you are in fucking /r/askafeminist and trying to draw conclusions about all women. That's a mistake of massive proportions if you are indeed trying to draw such a conclusion. There are women who literally identify as non-feminists or some variation of that.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 09:14 PM
3

Even if it's a lie at it's core, a trick of biology to compel us to reproduce, it's one hell of a drug, and one who is inclined towards it arguably should pursue it for the experience itself.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 09:12 PM
2

Trust me, they're out there, but people have to try hard to find them.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 09:10 PM
1

Sounds pretty gay to me.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 09:06 PM
4

Literally the black pill but dumber and more ignorant, and proud of that fact.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 09:05 PM
1

While we may be aware that ignorance is bliss, certain personality types can't accept it. We must seek out knowledge, particularly when we are not doing as well as we'd like in our own lives (less positive distractions breeds self-reflection). It is part of who we are as people. It's a questionable gift to have, but it's essential for human survival. If we were all completely ignorant of things that have the potential to harm us then we would be vulnerable as a species and unable to deal with di…
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 11:54 AM
1

I'm sure I'm ignoring quite a few things, but the genetic history of our race shows we may have been almost wiped out in the distant past. I read an article years ago that argued there's some reason to believe we were down to just a few thousand people at one point. Relative to other animals we are incredibly weak when we are young and require an enormous amount of maturation.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 04:59 PM
1

Never mind, I thought you said birth control was a factor of little importance.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 04:15 PM
1

The median lifespan of a human being in the stone age was 20-25 years old. I don't think people were too worried about the consequences of reproducing via sex, only survival and extracting what little pleasure you can out of a brutal world. Many children died in the first 4 years of age. Constant fucking was a necessity to survive. Genetic data also shows the human population may have been reduced to just a few thousand at one point. Try to comprehend the situation these people were in. We have …
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 04:02 PM
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I agree, female selectivity is a survival mechanism and the engine of evolution itself (men are just the fuel that gets burned in this analogy), but it's one arguably unnecessary (or at least much less so) once humans achieved modern civilizations. But just because something is unnecessary doesn't mean it just goes away and this incredible social experiment we've built can catastrophically collapse for a wide variety of reasons. Actively pulling on strings essential to it's foundation is arguabl…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 03:12 PM
2

Keep on truckin'!
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 02:34 PM
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I think the current state of mating has taken us back to the stone ages (our natural state) in terms of the gender disparities in sexual success during adolescence and early adulthood (18-27). The only fundamental difference is people now possess many effective birth control methods. It has been shown through genetic studies that most of the men who ever lived during the evolution of our species never reproduced. This is a sobering fact, which reminds us of the extreme selectivity that exists in…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 02:25 PM
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Unable to finish, not enjoying myself at all, etc. In that moment I realized I simply can't fuck fat chicks, period. When I say fat though, I mean morbidly obese. I'd much rather just jerk off and watch porn, then go back to whatever activity I actually enjoy doing.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 02:06 PM
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If it works for you, I applaud your strategy. I, however, have tried to fuck a fat chick before, and lets just say it wasn't what I expected and didn't go well.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 01:29 PM
1

I applaud your ingenuity. A lot of men are proud of the fact they fuck fat chicks (seen several bumper stickers lately, and had a nice little chuckle at their expense). I tried fucking a fat chick once, it was very difficult for me to even force myself to perform that function, once. I would advice fucking a few fat chicks first (maybe you already have). If you have what it takes then you can consider it. The problem I foresee is that people are not stupid. They're going to pick up on the fact y…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 01:21 PM
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This is where the 'healthy at any weight' and body positivity culture comes from. It's inherently false, but they're able to pretend it's not false because desperate men still fuck them. Sad.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 01:11 PM
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Cardio isn't great for weight loss, you're better off just going for a very long walk on the weekends, like 3-4 hours a day. The people that hike the Pacific Crest Trail are famous for losing all the weight they possibly can within the timeframe of the hike itself. Low intensity exercise burns more fat than a shorter high intensity workout that relies more on carbs to fuel ongoing energy needs. I'm glad you're doing well though.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 01:09 PM
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I agree. That's why it needs to be treated as a mental disorder and not a medical problem, especially for kids.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 03:42 PM
2

Yes, something like that. The trauma was extreme.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 03:20 PM
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The saddest fact is, even if they could fathom it, they wouldn't give a shit anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 03:19 PM
3

This may be one of the biggest reason for trans suicides. The shock and horror of the transition is just too traumatic for an individual unprepared for the harshness of our reality.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 03:17 PM
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Even before the current trans craze, many years ago a woman filmed a documentary where she literally became a man for over a year. She formed friendships with men, got on the bowling team, etc, and she remarked that it was the most difficult and emotionally traumatic experience of her life. Eventually she felt so guilty she had to tell the male friends in her life that she was a woman doing a social experiment. They accepted her as one of them anyway. Very interesting story.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 03:14 PM
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If you could provide a direct link to your theory I'd be happy to consider other ideas on this matter. I forgot to mention it in my OP, but I am a strict believer in the old adage: "Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” So it is clear to me, there is something adverse happening reproductively and/or socially that causes this instability to become manifested in stable societies. We see in history the almost inevit…
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/22 04:18 PM
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I'm not an evolutionary psychologist, so you would probably have to direct your inquiry to someone who specializes in the evolution of human traits. But I will attempt to answer your question anyway by using some educated speculation. I believe these traits evolved along dual lines for a variety of reasons. The monogamous reproductive strategy excels at stable reproduction of highly successful and competent people. It is weakest when there is a period of great chaos, food scarcity, war, etc. Tha…
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/22 02:28 PM
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It has been hypothesized (accurately) that there are two basic phenotypes of people in this world, those more inclined towards monogamous relationships and polygamous ones. It is the women (and men) who fall on the more polygamous end of the distribution curve that feel a need to sexually explore and have many partners before settling down. It is thought this dualistic sexual drive helped humans survive many different types of environments when one mode of sexual reproduction is superior to anot…
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 08:37 PM
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Mainly that's just me and a tiny group of MGTOWs at the moment. I admit men are not in mass revolt or anything of that nature.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 04:40 PM
1

True, but good luck getting your first job without a degree.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 04:08 PM
1

Did you not read everything above? Men are disengaging from society in a big way.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 04:02 PM
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Men are generally lower in agreeableness, but disagreeableness has it's advantages. If men are being fucked over by society, they're just going to rebel and tell you to go fuck yourself. The corporate machine really loves women in particular, because they generally do as they're told. Oh, we're gonna need you to work late tonight and every night thereafter for a while until we catch up around here... yeah, no. If you look at male median income it has stagnated since the 1970's. This fact has not…
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 12:16 AM
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I hope your wife knows she has a good man. Godspeed!
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/22 04:53 AM
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I think there's a great deal to being a human being beyond obsession with sex. Being mgtow is about recognizing that women are more trouble than they're worth. If I fancy going to climb a mountain or going to vegas, I just go, and nobody is hassling me about this or that. If you can't be happy on your own for at least a little while, then you shouldn't be using other people as a crutch to fill that void.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 04:27 PM
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That's because it was a shit idea, unless you're literally a cold-hearted narcissist that can 'drop a bitch (plate)' at any moment without feeling or regret. Must be quite a ride to be such a degenerate.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 12:24 AM
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Financial issues, obesity epidemic, poor mental health, social media, increased demand for educational investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:27 PM
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The truth is most incels have the capacity to fuck women, but they'd have to lower their standards so much it's not worth the effort. The only thing men are hypergamous about is looks, so it actually matters to not be a hambeast for a woman to attract a man (that's what drives the makeup/beautification industry). True involuntary celibacy is rare (literally trying and failing with hundreds or thousands of women). High rates of obesity, technology, poor health, and economic issues are causing mis…
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 01:15 PM
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It's more than just "we don't owe you anything." It's also "we hope you die soon, too." Low value men are less than nothing to women and society, they're perceived as a threat that provides literally nothing of value to women, and therefore shouldn't exist. That's why there's no media uproar about the absurdly high rate of suicide among middle aged men for example. If this were women, we'd have a suicide crisis center on every street corner, but for men, nothing. The high value men are largely c…
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 03:11 AM
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Post-trauma avoidance, perfectly normal.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 05:41 PM
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I'm a strong proponent of people seeking happiness in life, but it's sad when it's only one partner that is unhappy and the other gets devastated by the choice of another to break up.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 05:39 PM
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Not 70% of the protein though, which is arguably the most essential nutrient for human life and brain development.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 05:34 PM
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What studies I have read back the once a week routine as potentially maximizing T, but nofapping beyond that arguably has no biological benefit. If it's psychological, then by all means, go for it.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 04:51 PM
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The science is fairly clear on this (someone correct me if I'm wrong), nofap has an effect on T, but only for the first week, then the body adjusts and it levels off. If it works for people then they should keep doing it. If it doesn't work, then you shouldn't feel bad about fapping, especially if you limit it to once a week. Simply believing in something is sometimes all that is required to better yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 04:48 PM
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I feel like moderation is once a day, but multiple times a day is not.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 04:45 PM
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A young mom who has 10 children from 10 different men, doesn’t take care of them and doesn’t work is not perceived as valuable to society. She's still more valued than a homeless bum on the street. Nobody is giving them free government money to sustain themselves or start a family, but the single mom still qualifies for a lot of welfare money by just spreading her legs wide open. We look down upon her yes, justifiably, but we still look down more on the homeless man in general. He is truly worth…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 11:18 PM
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The issue is also the overall social stability of a society, which can quickly devolve into a depopulation situation regardless of value or intent. So if you get too many young people who can't find adequate work, can't find a mate, etc, you have a tendency to get rising social instability which can eventually threaten the system itself. We're betting big on the sustainability and continuation of the status quo, but it might prove to be far less stable than we thought if trends on sexlessness am…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 08:33 PM
1

a island of 1 man and 100 women. Or a island of 1 woman and 100 men Good analogy.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 07:29 PM
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Even if women aren't fulfilling their full, intended purpose to human society (defined as a birthrate above replacement level or 2.1 births/woman born), they'll always be more valued than men overall. Men have always been disposable people throughout history and prehistoric times even. Hillary Clinton is famous for saying (and I'm paraphrasing), "women are the true victims of war." Many people took offense to this statement due to the horrible injuries, deaths, and PTSD that are almost exclusive…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 05:50 PM
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Not exclusively alone, thought that was obvious, apparently not for low IQ people such as yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 07:21 AM
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Even introverted people need human connection to be satisfied with life, generally speaking.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 07:13 AM
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I'm sure they are, but it's obviously not a good substitute for real human emotional and physical connection. Loneliness and isolation is known to increase the risk of death dramatically. We ought to empathize with the rapidly growing isolation of people in society.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 07:03 AM
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You should be happy, introverted people enjoy their solitude.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 06:03 AM
1

Exactly
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 03:55 PM
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It's absolutely a shaming tactic designed to destroy male bonding which can be vital to human happiness. My friend's wife has implied some shit in the past in a joking way that seems a little too frequent to be a joke. Clearly butthurt that we actually share interests together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:44 AM
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I agree!
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 01:50 AM
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Regardless if the value has gone down, the value employers place on it has not, ergo you must jump through their stupid hoops no matter how it's structured. It sucks, but it is what it is.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 01:19 AM
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The expense is up because the value of education in society keeps going up, just like the value of the stock market overall, which is tied to the productivity of the educated class (mostly). Loans certainly help them get away with increasing it, but without them many kids would simply have to make due without an education, and that is a no-win scenario for many kids who aren't equipped to make it on their own. Regardless of the price, if the interest rate is subsidized, the payment will be affor…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 12:54 AM
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All of it goes together, certainly, but housing is the primary pre-requisite of having a family. Without it there is no hope. It may not be enough to offset the situation, but anything is better than nothing. I don't see it in a socialistic context, because the loan still has to be paid back with productive work, the interest rate would just be less (like student loans for the poor and middle class helps people get an education). I don't see the off-ramp to permanent dependency. And the current …
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 12:29 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:09 PM
1

I understand the negative reaction you had, but did you consider maybe he had that meltdown because of performance anxiety around you? He wanted to make a good impression, but in attempting to do so he ruined it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:02 PM
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We live in a world that's inherently complex, and arguably getting more complex every day, necessitating more reliance on 'shortcuts' to approximate real knowledge.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 04:02 PM
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Sometimes it does, but often it doesn't. Hell, it doesn't even happen 100% of the time in marriages.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 02:56 PM
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So it's a proxy for genetic superiority/inferiority in the presence of limited information?
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 02:55 PM
1

Nihilism isn't always a pathway to darkness (though it often is). There is such a thing as 'optimistic nihilism.' However, for undesirable men that's arguably a difficult path to follow. The key is to combine it with the ancient art of stoicism as well. Self-acceptance of undesirability, yet simultaneously striving to always be better than we are now, is the key. To surrender ourselves to oblivion and the inevitability of death is demonstrating true weakness. To death and sadness I say, not toda…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:51 PM
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To be needed also fulfills male innate desires, so it's not that confusing. Also, both men and women lie to themselves and others all the time. Love itself may arguably be a lie at it's core, a trick of biology to compel us to reproduce. But it's one hell of a lie regardless of the 'truth' if you just go along for the ride. Your ego itself is arguably a lie, a shadow on the wall. Mankind's capacity for self-delusion may be a pre-requisite for survival itself, a necessary component of self-awaren…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:41 PM
1

The question in my mind is what specifically is it about being tall that's so attractive? I just don't comprehend it (i'm tall BTW).
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 02:02 PM
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Good point
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 01:26 AM
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My viewpoint is that a lot of divorces are bordering on frivolous and this is harmful to kids, since it results in being raised by a single mother. In cases of legitimate abuse, psychological or physical, of course it's better to leave no matter what the circumstances, however the fact women are initiating 70% of these breakups (when it's usually women ready to get married sooner in the first place) is somewhat disappointing from a male perspective. I don't think people put enough effort into th…
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 03:50 PM
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I think many men, especially younger ones, have an emotional need to feel desired by a woman, and that's partially about sex, but not all of it. For some men, scratching that itch is all that is required, and in your case, you seem fully compatible with a mgtow lifestyle, however I am concerned this isn't the best fit for everyone's needs. I would go so far to say men are the true romantics in relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 04:42 AM
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That's great brother, but what about all the other people who live their entire lives in blissful happiness in marriage? Studies indicate men die quicker outside of marriage. And divorced men are more likely to seek remarriage after divorce. Perhaps some men need women more than others do for a variety of reasons. You may fall on the far end of the distribution, whereas others would not be content in a mgtow situation, which would be harmful to their health.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 04:35 AM
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That is certainly a viewpoint worth considering for some. But sometimes people have a need to learn the hard way. People are social animals by nature, which means we are drawn like a moth to a flame to dangerous and volatile situations like relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 04:28 AM
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The divorce studies do reflect the increased risk of second divorces, so yes, because cohabitation is so closely related to marriage to begin with. The issue is women are initiating roughly 70% of these disengagements with the opposite sex. They are the chaotic and volatile function in the equation. They are the one that's difficult to keep happy in the long run, whereas men are generally easier to please. So for any man who is risk adverse when it comes to these issues, this data is extremely r…
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 04:23 AM
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In some aspects it is, but knowing you can get up and leave anytime you want is significant. Once married, once you own property together, once you intermingle finances to a significant degree, and have kids together, it's way different and more complex. If a dead bedroom situation develops in a cohabitation situation, the simple solution is to just leave. But making that choice in marriage carries with it way more downsides for all involved. If marriage wasn't a significant step forward women w…
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 04:19 AM
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The issue is, is your crying demonstrating you might have hidden vulnerabilities that make you the sort of partner that women can't count on? How does that vulnerability potentially negatively affect her? This is how you know if it's safe to cry or open up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:13 AM
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That sounds like a very inconvenient fact. The issue is, is your crying demonstrating you might have hidden vulnerabilities that make you the sort of partner that women can't count on? How does that vulnerability potentially negatively affect her? This is how you know if it's safe to cry or open up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:02 AM
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We all are, sadly.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 03:30 AM
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I can't believe this interviewer is fixated on how much money is in his wallet. It's really quite embarrassing for a professional on financial television. You're talking to one of the richest and most financially savvy people on the planet, and you waste precious time on this? That being said, this guy is getting dangerously close to being cancelled by the woke mob.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 03:26 AM
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Cohabitation is the default in western societies, so women have to adapt to that reality no matter their pill color. It is absolutely a bad idea. But it's an idea firmly ingrained in our culture now, even for religious and conservative people.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 03:24 AM
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Well, it looks like all hope is not lost for the human race then. It's unfortunate Western countries are too far gone to reverse course now.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 03:13 AM
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That's correct. I'm curious what area you live in. It seems like your culture is very wise.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 03:08 AM
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I mean I sent a message to the mods complaining about her, and we went back and forth for a while, with a couple other mods chiming in when they felt like it. She's an intellectual coward and it's real transparent.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 03:06 AM
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Imagine calling yourself MrsDegree as your user name. It shows you how insecure she is that she feels the need to announce to the world that she's 'educated.' When the reality is such that she's most likely just an 'educated idiot' with a piece of paper from the humanities department. She must be real proud, and she spends her days fucking with people online in an obscure subreddit. Disgusting and pathetic.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 02:46 AM
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Correct, and I bitched her out for it in the mod chat. Made no difference of course, but it felt good calling her corrupt in front of the other mods.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 02:40 AM
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I have, simply because the performance anxiety is gone. I don't have to worry about if someone likes what I say or not because I've gotten to a place where I usually don't give a fuck or give significantly less than before. It absolutely has to do with not giving a fuck, and it's something that takes time and patience to learn and adapt to.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 09:33 PM
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Welcome to the blackpill. It arguably requires too much effort and ignorance of the risks associated with cohabitation to blindly walk into the fire. Even if you got a woman to look at you, is it really worth all the trouble? For an increasing number of men, the answer is clearly, no (even if they're not invisible to women).
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 08:11 PM
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My hypothesis is that a large part of this phenomena is explained by having a reference point to constantly compare you to that they've intimately experienced in the past. And in some aspects, you'll never match X, Y, or Z, associated with her previous cohabitation experience, even though you may be clearly the superior option due to A, B, and C. This inadequacy is tolerated for a while, but not forever, and eventually manifests in escalating divorce risk. It's not necessarily an alpha widow sit…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 08:00 PM
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MrsDegree is the worst of the bunch, she's gone after me before.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 07:42 PM
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Yeah, that cunt went after my ass in a big way. Went through my entire post history one day deleting left and right.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 07:41 PM
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Mods in /r/purplepilldebate wouldn't allow me to post this image. Enjoy.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 07:37 PM
4

Makeup is the biggest lie in the sexual marketplace that people gracefully accept without question.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 07:33 PM
1

Being neet is also not a boon to their case either.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 07:27 PM
2

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:38 PM
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Yeah, 167 is fucking fat bro. If you look at other countries women are not nearly this fat. It's unacceptable. The average male in France is 170. The average female is 138. Fat people are disgusting. Average women are the same weight as men of all ages in france.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:54 AM
4

If average means fat, then that's unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:27 AM
2

The answer is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:19 PM
2

This. This is quite sad to see, but entirely not surprising in today's world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:14 PM
11

What you're saying is true to a very large extent, however empathy is important in society too, and we gain that via knowledge of seeing things from other people's point of view. So, while on a micro level, these discussions may seem pointless, on a macro one over time culture changes and it causes people to modify their behaviors. Such discussions are therefore not entirely pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:52 AM
-11

This is a terrible idea. I understand you want fairness, but women are not fighters, they can't be expected to fight like men. It's this same reasoning for why we separate women from men's sports.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 04:35 AM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHxlb4Ur8yI
/r/MensRights27/06/22 12:41 AM
-1

They will adapt, kids are very adaptable.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 05:08 PM
3

Yes, but it's still irrelevant. Stand up for what you believe in regardless of the personal consequences. If you lose your job, find another one. It's that simple. Quit living in fear.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 05:02 PM
31

Quit letting other people dictate what you do or say. Their opinions are irrelevant.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 12:10 PM
2

<3 love ya, hang in there, we'll get through this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:33 AM
1

Never mind the fact we seem to be having a major financial crises every 10 years or so....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:19 AM
1

Source: https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_and_Roesler_Cohabitation_Experience_NSFG.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:59 AM
1

Right, and Japanese people eat very healthy and are not poor, and yet they're still short. So clearly the problem of shortness is not that easy to solve for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:34 AM
2

Japan is a wealthy and very healthy country overall, very consistent with European standards. The US is not really that wealthy when looking at the bottom 95%. It's the top 1% that drive US statistics on wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:30 AM
2

Bro, Japanese people have been wealthy for multiple generations now, and they eat fairly well too compared to American standards of diet. They're still short as fuuuuck. You can't take your family and draw broad conclusions beyond it to the rest of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:18 AM
4

White people have gotten taller, but we are talking about hundreds of years and many generations to produce that outcome. So I seriously doubt the 'short asian' meme has been obliterated in such a short period of time. I see short asian men and women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:01 AM
6

That's why for some guys it's definitely bros over hoes, at least to a certain point in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:59 AM
2

Yeah well, men get taken for a ride all the time in a multitude of ways when it comes to relationships and marriage in general. I don't know if it's fair to say the majority will end up in a bad place, but I'm certain the risk is much higher than normal. When I see shit like Trump with his wife and other nonsense I recognize this is a person who is literally using his wealth to buy a young wife. However, at the same time she probably went after him for his money too, so she's not exactly innocen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:00 PM
3

Incidentally, can I have a microdose of shrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:09 PM
2

Because their prebuilt type is far superior to fat, lazy dudes who are ugly and will probably give them ugly babies too. Men have more varied taste because they're inherently disposable, and disposable people are often beggars, and beggars can't be choosers. So it's essentially a survival mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:02 PM
2

Given your father died approximately at age 65, I'd also say it's quite selfish to be so unhealthy if you have any choice in the matter. People make a conscious choice to become and stay obese, eat unhealthily, and fail to exercise. It is therefore wrong to subject your partner to your unhealthy lifestyle. It will negatively affect their life too and you are more likely to become a burden before you die as a result, and leave them lonely once you shed the mortal coil you didn't respect in life. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:57 PM
1

This is correct. Good logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:43 PM
1

Exposure to pre-natal testosterone in the womb also affects development and permanently changes people. For example, those exposed to higher than average levels have a tendency to be more polygamous (for both men and women). It is for this reason that it's been hypothesized that there are essentially two phenotypes of people based on this exposure. One biomarker for this exposure is the 2D:4D digit ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:30 PM
1

Women demand men follow certain gender roles, otherwise they will not pair bond with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:12 PM
4

That's true to some extent, but it's not really a proper understanding of masculinity. It's not just about how many women you've fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:13 AM
5

a gross version of masculinity we have right now that abuses men Do you even have a capacity to articulate that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:58 AM
4

I don't think anybody's really asking that. But the problem is not an isolated one. Places like Facebook give people an unrealistic expectation of reality, when it's often wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:46 AM
5

A community isn’t a bunch of rugged individuals who all do exactly the same tasks. No, it's not, but it's also not a bunch of people who don't feel a part of your community primarily because they're entirely unwanted by the female half of society. Society is essentially a social compact. We all agree to live in peace, respect laws, etc, because if people do the proper thing in life their needs are generally met. When that doesn't happen, shit has a tendency to collapse, as is happening right now…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:10 AM
4

World hunger is increasing though. And I'm not even counting this year yet. It will increase even more this year due to inflation and rising food and energy costs. Everything necessary to stay alive is getting vastly more expensive faster than wages are rising. Child mortality is a single data point, and you refuse to recognize the wealth of shit going on in the world today that is likely to reverse that positive trend in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:59 AM
5

On a proportional basis, if you were paying your fair share I suspect you wouldn't like it given your opinions on charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:56 AM
5

I thought women in general loved charity, but maybe that's only when someone else is doing the paying for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:48 AM
4

Quality of life for a minority of people in developed countries is the highest, but the rest of the world population is fucked, because they lack the resources to provide for their families or dream of having one. I don't begrudge women's desire to control their reproduction, but that very positive outcome obviously has negative consequences that you can't ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:44 AM
5

Then start doing so in your own life, and help reverse a bad trend in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:43 AM
7

I don't know if you're paying attention, but the signs of collapse are all around us. Jan 6th, Russia/China conflict (with possible nuclear consequences), vast wealth disparities in society, the affordability crisis, inflation, and much more. If you don't respect the risks that exist then you're in denial. I fully understand female selectivity drives evolution. We're not in disagreement there. It's extremely important, but in a society it's less so. It has to be, or shit will spiral out of contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:39 AM
6

Yes, men have physical standards, but they're so horny and so slutty, they will easily relax those standards under the right circumstances, whereas women do not relax theirs until they're completely desperate. Nature has afforded them with a greater capacity to resist sexual urges in general. This is a great benefit to them though, because if they did not possess this capacity, then they would fall prey to some degenerate and have to raise his shitty baby alone. I have not suggested getting your…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:30 AM
15

It's not about revenge. For some maybe it is, but not me. And historically speaking, the current norm you're invested in fully is the oddball out with the need to prove it's sustainability in the long run. And for the record I'm a pretty positive person in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:21 AM
6

Maybe men are not valued enough for being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:20 AM
13

I've driven for uber and lyft before. I've picked up cars full of young girls in their early 20's. I know how they talk amongst themselves about short guys or any guys they don't like (I'm tall by the way). If you're poor you're fucked. If you're short and poor you're double fucked. If you had a poor upbringing with a single mother, you're fucked. If you're not a social wizard capable of making people laugh on command, you're fucked. Do I really need to go on or is that enough for you? Women's h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:10 AM
8

I'm sorry the world is so fucked up, but men are not entirely responsible for this degenerated shit-show. You deserve better. We all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:01 AM
15

Abundance in terms of affording an iphone or a starbucks, but not in terms of the affordability of having a family (especially a single-income family where the man works and the woman is a homemaker). This is the tension we live in driving hypergamy to ever higher levels of excess, partially out of necessity alone. Look at the price of housing. How can young people in their late 20's afford this? The answer is they can't, so they won't, which will only escalate the degeneration further. Modern t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:23 AM
32

Oh, we're already not having a good time if you follow the news lately, and it will likely get worse. We're essentially headed for civil war, economic collapse, or something similarly nasty, and very few people see it coming or understand the underlying forces moving us over the cliff. At that point some wise people will wake up and ask how we got to this point in such a relatively short period in history. When the shit hits the fan maybe men will re-assert themselves as indispensable individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:21 PM
49

To be a tad more precise, they also needed to extract maximum male economic output in terms of labor added to society. This was a pre-requisite for the formation and expansion of civilizations. And this was only possible by creating social norms that virtually require all women to be dependent on men for survival. Only by severing women from their more hypergamous tendencies could this be achieved. So each man became the king of his own little castle, and productivity surged dramatically. Sudden…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:10 PM
5

Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:56 PM
11

Selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:40 PM
36

Many women think they can change men if given a chance, then quickly realize that is not as easy as they imagined. So they overlook some negative aspects of a prospective mate initially to form a pair bond, then grow restless with the remaining unsuitability as time passes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:26 PM
5

That is true, I forgot about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:23 PM
16

Roughly half of men are in the 'nice guy' category, and the other half are essentially assholes to varying degrees. That's my point I'm trying to convey to you, but you seem hell bent on painting with the broadest of brushes, so enjoy that I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:21 PM
15

I see, so you're upset that men grade women on a scale of 1-10. For men, especially young men, physical attractiveness is literally the only thing that matters. For women, they must be much more discerning in their estimation of men, because the consequences of pregnancy are so much more profound and life-changing for women. It has been hypothesized that there are two fundamental sexual strategies driving human beings in general, a more promiscuous phenotype and a more monogamous one. Human bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:15 PM
23

Can you rephrase your question? I'm not sure I understand your meaning precisely. How do you think men are being cruel now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:05 PM
8

Not this man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:02 PM
13

Only the more masculine version of gay women are worthy team mates for straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:01 PM
4

I don't know if cuck is the right word for it, because that implies they would be ok with raising another man's child (as long as the female is sufficiently attractive). I don't think that is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:49 PM
134

As I understand it, lesbian divorces are much higher than male homosexual marriages, and there are very good reasons this is true. Women are simply hard to please. That's it in a nutshell. There's probably good biological explanations for why that's evolutionarily advantageous, but I'm no expert. Men, on the other hand, are the more disposable sex and therefore should be easier to please. Disposability and lower expectations logically go hand in hand. All men either instinctively or consciously …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:46 PM
12

Being 'captain save a hoe' is not worth it unless you are cuckish in your general tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:35 PM
1

Bro, a lot of people don't get divorced though. The secret is to find someone you really enjoy as a friend that has good morals and a good family background. That goes a long way to mitigating the risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:45 AM
3

Thug life
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:05 AM
3

There's more to life than work bro, and if women are turned off by that, then I'm content to stay single forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:59 AM
7

Attention at least until she acquires said resources through a marriage contract. Then the raw attraction begins to dominate once again, and such men tend to end up in dead bedroom situations.
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/22 03:48 AM
1

Women have been the same for thousands of years. They aren't the variable that has changed. Basically, the economics of relationships have drastically changed in a very short period of time. Women have gone from being historically dependent on men for the basics of life to being largely independent careerists. Simultaneous with this 'rise of the career woman' phenomena we have seen median male income remain largely stagnant for the past 50 years through a combination of globalization, educationa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:26 PM
0

The answer is no, they don't. And no, women will not become primary builders. Things will just continue to slowly degenerate until we reach a breaking point that resets everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:18 PM
2

Self-interested profit motives have secondary effects that are beneficial to society overall. That's capitalism 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:16 PM
-2

80% of these women have internalized their own make-up habits into their core persona. When you wipe the paint off they're really not as hot as they or you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:13 PM
3

I've approached hundreds of women and that has never happened to me. It's not something that happens often. Literally from a user with the subreddit flair "chubby chaser." Yeah of course, if your fetish is chasing after the least desirable women, you will see different outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:08 PM
0

Neither is there a reason to expect equality of outcomes when the differences in IQ at the upper levels are extremely divergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:29 PM
4

Women are more risk adverse for valid biological reasons, and 'cool shit' is often not without risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:50 PM
1

It's not just a matter of strength, the percentage of women with IQs over 130+ is far less than men. At the median there is little difference between men and women, but as one goes out on the normal distribution towards the extremes, you see a lot of differences. By the same token of course, at the bottom end there are way more men who are morons. It's pretty clear that men are nature's experiment (pushing the boundaries of what is possible), and women are the safe biological bet. But safe is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:47 PM
-1

It's not just what's 'perceived,' it's a fundamental truth of human existence. Men are just superior people, women are inherently supporters for this reason, and always will be. Of course there are exceptions and extreme examples at the tail ends of the normal distribution, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:29 PM
1

Why else would they pass such a morally questionable law? They clearly don't give a shit about paternity fraud perpetrated upon men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:10 PM
1

Longer than index on a woman is not bueno.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:36 PM
1

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-02-04-do-you-stray-or-stay-humans-divide-promiscuous-or-faithful-groups
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:35 PM
5

Just admit you were wrong, jesus christ. YOU had it backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:09 PM
25

Promiscuous people are more likely to cheat or be having sex with other people when you meet them. The long ring fingers aren't loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:03 PM
3

They can't even report information from other sources properly, obviously. It's a trash site.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:43 PM
8

Here's a better article on the subject: Both men and women fall into two groups, one more inclined to be promiscuous and the other more inclined to be faithful, an Oxford University study has found. Unlike other species, which are inclined to be either promiscuous or faithful, both mating strategies seem to be used by humans. The researchers analysed previously collected answers from nearly 600 North American and British people on a standardized questionnaire about social and sexual attitudes. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:33 PM
2

The long ring finger often tells the story there. It's correlated to prenatal exposure to testosterone, and therefore such people are prone to being polygamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:55 PM
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Men have an innate disgust towards promiscuous women, because that leads to fatherhood ambiguity, something women are incapable of truly comprehending. It's in our genes to be skeptical of commitment to slutty women. That's why in France they made it illegal for men to seek parental genetic testing on children. Completely cucked out nation BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:52 PM
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Except resource scarcity is a part of nature, and the excess resources available to both men and women today are arguably an economic aberration, and not one humans are well adapted to yet at all, ergo, while the modern era may be very freeing for certain women who had no choices in the past, they're also arguably less happy than they were in the past, and the end result of this social experiment will be societal collapse as the birthrate continues to go down. Cultures that thrive in the future …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:58 AM
1

The natural order of things is for women to be economically and physically dependent on men for provisioning and security. Throw a monkey wrench in that well oiled machine and you get what we have today. There is a mistmatch in desirability of average men because women don't need them anymore. It's at simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:48 AM
2

That is not a societal expectation. That's entirely a construct of women's lizard brains.
/r/BlackPillScience19/11/21 09:59 AM
19

Kind of common sense, but good to have some backing nonetheless.
/r/BlackPillScience19/11/21 09:55 AM
7

That or they're being intentionally deceptive to push a narrative.
/r/BlackPillScience19/11/21 09:54 AM
1

But also there isnt any significant sexual dimorphism in levels of intelligence Yes there is, but only at the extreme ends of the bell curve. Men outnumber women with IQs over 130 by a substantial margin, but there are also more male idiots at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:26 AM
1

Many other European countries have the same, but they do not have a high proportion of women working part time. There's something unique at work here, so your argument is insufficient to explain the observables.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:01 PM
3

Rape is certainly worse for the individual, but in aggregate many smaller wrongs can eventually exceed it for a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:54 PM
1

Hi, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:52 PM
2

It's a rhetorical device. Did you just ignore the rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:57 PM
-1

The red pill despises tradcon ideology, which is precisely what this is. The only thing we agree about is that society is in a long term decline and there is no way to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:15 AM
2

I will admit there is bias towards men being most capable and leaders, but emotions often trump everything else. They're literally designed to overwhelm the rational aspects of our psyche. The emotional bias in favor of women is indeed overwhelming, and to underestimate it is a grave intellectual error.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:07 AM
3

So now we're going to redefine what gender equality is to validate our desperate search for some underlying societal bias that is keeping women from studying science. No longer is Norway the most egalitarian, now they're going to be reframed as the asshole, somehow, and people like you will swallow it whole no matter what, because it's what you want to believe is true. I seriously doubt the main reason girls in Norway aren't becoming scientists is because of perceived gender bias. That shows me …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:35 AM
2

Further, our analysis suggests that the percentage of girls who would likely be successful and enjoy further STEM study was considerably higher than the propensity of women to graduate in STEM fields, implying that there is a loss of female STEM capacity between secondary and tertiary education. Wow! Sounds like they were politically reigned-in not to shit on equity of outcomes, since equity of outcome is the new religion of the left. 50% could be? So you're saying it's possible... but you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:34 AM
5

You know what else is smaller in more egalitarian societies like the nordic countries? Less women in STEM, more women in nurturing vocations like nursing and teaching, relative to the US and other 'less egalitarian' societies. You know why? Because they are allowed to follow their true desires relative to hyper-feminists nations like the US that pressure women to seek gender equity in all things except the shit and dirty jobs no one wants to do like trash collector. Allow women to be women and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:09 AM
1

Yeah, keep believing that bullshit if it helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:56 AM
7

No backing? There's plenty of backing proving the 'women are wonderful' theory is correct. You just don't want to see it because it violates your worldview. You can't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:51 AM
0

Clearly it was needed in the case of the democrat Governor of New York, and many others who love to spout nonsense about how they support women and then abuse them. It really shows you how little they actually believe in their own bullshit. I don't support women being raped, but that doesn't change anything about what I stated in the OP. The stinginess of women is a proven fact at this point as far as I'm concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:49 AM
1

Most people don't. They don't even know about it. People laugh when you mention men's rights like it's a joke. And it will stay that way. Because people are fundamentally biased against men, especially weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:46 AM
2

No, it's really not, it's about the darker side of power and what it does to otherwise lovely and wonderful people we know as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:39 AM
2

I think I've seen a grand total of two, and one is literally just asking people what their opinion is of women. Hardly reliable data given the known bias people in general have towards women. That's why men get harsher sentences for the same criminal offenses. Remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:36 AM
2

And I refuted those biased studies. See here: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/qry5jt/society_doesnt_need_more_women_as_ceos/hkaqrbd/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:24 AM
1

Your "research" is literally based on people's individual assessments, and I just showed you why we should be skeptical of individual assessments between men and women. Even judges who are trained to be fair and impartial give men harsher sentences than women for the same offences. Why do you think that is? It proves the 'women are wonderful' theory is correct about people's bias towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:15 AM
-1

No, I'm showing you what research shows, people are biased in favor of women, and you're just going to ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative. That's why men get harsher sentences and jail time for the same offences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:13 AM
2

Fundamentally biased and subjective assessment. The women-are-wonderful effect is the phenomenon found in psychological and sociological research which suggests that people associate more positive attributes with women compared to men. This bias reflects an emotional bias toward women as a general case. The phrase was coined by Alice Eagly and Antonio Mladinic in 1994 after finding that both male and female participants tend to assign positive traits to women, with female participants showing a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:11 AM
1

Biased and subjective. The women-are-wonderful effect is the phenomenon found in psychological and sociological research which suggests that people associate more positive attributes with women compared to men. This bias reflects an emotional bias toward women as a general case. The phrase was coined by Alice Eagly and Antonio Mladinic in 1994 after finding that both male and female participants tend to assign positive traits to women, with female participants showing a far more pronounced bias.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:08 AM
2

Subjective and biased assessment seeking a predetermined outcome. No one wants to shit on women, women are wonderful (and truthfully they often are, until they acquire power). It's like ranking what the most free nation is in the world. But that all comes down to how you define freedom and measure it. The women-are-wonderful effect is the phenomenon found in psychological and sociological research which suggests that people associate more positive attributes with women compared to men. This bias…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:06 AM
2

Then why do 60% of Dutch women work part time instead of full time? You may no be going back, but there is a middle ground between being a housewife and a hardcore careerist. They already proved it's possible, and likely to happen at some point here as well as people start prioritizing personal time over corporate profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:56 AM
1

Because women are inherently more stingy than men once they acquire status, resources, and power. That's why it's a problem. If men and women were equally stingy, then I'd be ok with the situation. Hand waving that men can just become as stingy as women isn't helpful to your cause of eliminating gender roles. How about women become LESS stingy? See how that works? Either way it's not going to change a damn thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:49 AM
1

One personal anecdote is not very convincing. I'm not disputing it doesn't happen, but I think women's revulsion to supporting a "loser" which many openly use that word literally to describe people who make less than them makes it quite obvious that women are inherently quite stingy when it comes to supporting a man who makes less.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:26 AM
0

The problem is many men want to feel genuinely desired, and lying to yourself with a prostitute is difficult, so they begrudgingly agree to marry anyway despite the ample risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:54 AM
5

Men often make more money, of course they have better outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:47 AM
1

No, they're also bad leaders, as proven in the study above.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:40 AM
0

I don't think it's quite that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:39 AM
0

No oppression is being advocated here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:38 AM
1

Yes, and they're actively harming their society. The top 1% of overachieving women will never change, they will keep trying to compete with men for resources they don't need to support a family, but the rest of the population is more malleable. If women rise on their own merit, more power to them, but ideologies that seek equitable outcomes at the upper levels are inherently flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:17 AM
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Well, they're not only in power, but the difference between us and them couldn't be more stark. Nearly 60% of women in the Dutch labour market work part-time, roughly three times the OECD average for women, and over three times the rate for Dutch men This is the way. It's not handmaid's tale, it's just people learning to value their time appropriately between work and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:11 AM
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But can you dispute the facts? They speak for themselves, women are bad leaders, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:08 AM
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And it should stay that way, but the left argues this is unjust and seeks to use force in some instances to create equity where there should be none.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:08 AM
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That is precisely what I am arguing against. I'm also arguing against corporate culture that voluntarily seeks these outcomes in the mindless pursuit of 'diversity' for diversity's sake alone. That is not only unwise economically to raise people up without merit, but also socially as this study proves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:06 AM
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It does make sense, because women disproportionately abuse their power selfishly once acquired, therefore it's unwise for society to see greater expansion of women's participation in these areas of life that have such a drastic effect on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:04 AM
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That strategy has clearly failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:59 AM
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Yes, the top 1% have that privilege, because they do not require two incomes to achieve a desirable lifestyle with kids. They can hire nannies to take care of their kids, private schools are no problem, etc. That exception doesn't disprove the underlying facts. And yes, those two women are extremely disliked. VP Harris has the worst approval rating in like 30-40 years for a VP. It's like 28% last time I saw it, worse than Dick Cheney and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:57 AM
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I'm not suggesting the revocation of rights, I'm suggesting the need for cultural change and reprioritization of personal time over corporate profit maximization.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:54 AM
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I don't even know what entirely equal means. You mean equity of outcomes? That doesn't even happen in extremely egalitarian nations like Sweden and Norway. In fact, I think there are less women in STEM degrees and jobs there than the United States. You know why? Because true egalitarianism is not pressuring women to study something they're fundamentally not that interested in just to prove a point or seek a predetermined equitable outcome. Conversely, no one is suggesting more women need to take…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:50 AM
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I don't see how that is true. Nearly 60% of women in the Dutch labour market work part-time, roughly three times the OECD average for women, and over three times the rate for Dutch men I am advocating for nothing more than is found among the Dutch, hardly a Handmaid's Tale in the making. People have to start prioritizing their own free time over monetary gains and forcing businesses to adjust to the new paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:44 AM
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Men are not naturally inclined towards caregiving, it's not in our dna. Of course there are some great stay-at-home dads out there, but it'll never be that common for valid reasons. Women are making their lives more stressful in more ways than one by trying to break traditional gender roles. Women who choose traditional gender roles are also bullied socially in their peer groups by other women who are social guarding their own aspirations, thus making them unhappier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:41 AM
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I'm not suggesting the removal of basic personal freedom, I'm arguing for cultural reform that makes it a desirable and willing proposal. Just as the pendulum has swung far to the left in terms of feminism, logic suggests it may swing back, through no one's special doing by legislative force. If women start voluntarily working part time instead of full time, the cost dynamic will begin to shift towards affordability again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:38 AM
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Then those women can go back to having traditional gender roles and be happy, just as we who prefer egalitarianism and childfree lives can keep to our path. No, they can't, because in 1970 a single breadwinner could easily provide for an entire family, but because of the liberalization of the labor market (essentially doubling the available pool of qualified laborers), it has devalued work to the extent that it usually requires two incomes now to support a family. So whether women like it or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:13 AM
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I don't think there is any evidence to suggest this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:10 AM
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Maximization of personal happiness and fulfillment may run counter to societal stability in the long run, as I have explained. So in that sense, in the interests of maximizing the longevity of this amazing thing we call civilization, they do have a primary purpose. Also, there's the paradox of declining female happiness to contend with as well. By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:56 PM
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Yeah, this has been a known issue for a while now, not the first study I've heard of on this issue. Women are just stingy when it comes to sharing resources with people they view as beneath them, whether that be a romantic relationship or everyday work life.
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