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| 4 | More on man v bear- Becky is right again- and it’s funny that lots of women are telling her “why aren’t you defending women”? She herself is a woman… and they’re implying that she must think the same as them"why aren’t you defending women" The funny thing here is that they except men to defend women too. Since they split men into two categories. One category being for the good guys or heroes/protectors who are male feminists defending them. And other category is for the bad guys or incel misogynists. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 11/05/24 10:13 PM |
| 12 | Why do people so often harass this woman who clearly takes a stand against misandry?But they love it when male feminists defend them. Even when the male feminists are being the same pick me's they claim to hate. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 10/05/24 04:09 PM |
| 22 | No matter how much we progress as a society, is always going to be a heavily resourced social norm for men to push thru adversity and chaosThis is why the term "real man" and "positive masculinity" still exist in Progressive and feminist circles. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/24 02:06 PM |
| – | What do you think of passport bros?Yep won't feel bad if something happens to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else here feel like men are seen as expendable by society?They're just interested in promoting female interests, This would be fine. If they didn't try to get female best interests via male self sacrifice and men not caring about their issues. I'm sure there are ways they can get female best interests without relying on men to not care about male issues. But I'm sure they are going to say men need to use their male privilege to help women. Despite them also saying women are strong and independent. And women have gotten far with feminism without the hel… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/05/24 05:15 PM |
| 18 | Men, what do you think about the poisoned Skittles/M&Ms/candy/muffin analogy?If women still hold on to the beliefs that good men should protect women. Then they are major hypocrites. Why would you expect the bad skittles to protect you in dangerous situations. When you can't tell the difference between good men and bad men. That's women still expecting male strangers to risk their lives for them. That's the shit that frustrates me the most about the Bear/Skittles/M&Ms/candy/muffin analogy. Women say they can't trust men because they are statistically more dangerous. So t… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/05/24 02:15 AM |
| 1 | "The bear or the man " debate highlights the moral dilemma about women NEEDING men .i prefer death by bear to death by a man bc no one will take the bear's side after. The bear also won't falsely accuse a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 01:05 AM |
| 60 | Mocking of MRA/Red Pill content is being used as an excuse to mock men's issues. Because men's issues are almost universally portrayed as a problem with individuals, while women's issues are almost always considered to be systemic.Switching the genders mocking women issues would be an outrage. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/24 11:48 PM |
| 156 | Why Do I Get The Ick When Men Are Emotional Around Me?They only care about toxic masculinity affecting women, not men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/24 10:51 PM |
| 24 | Does anyone else here feel like men are seen as expendable by society?Yep this is true. We all think this. Feminists tend to be against draft registration overall, and some feminists groups such as the National Organization for Women have even tried to make women eligible for Selective Service, but I’ve realised that other feminists openly switch their ideologies when it comes to war (they suddenly claim that women shouldn’t be forced to fight because they’re needed to regrow the population - the problem is, unless women were conscripted to give birth, that would … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/24 07:19 PM |
| 3 | More misandry- it gets called out on the second and third slide by people flipping the genders and realising how ridiculous the whole debate isSorry, my bad I thought it was someone responding to the boys having sex with teachers. I didn't see the "that's somehow normal for all men" part. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 07/05/24 04:36 PM |
| 1 | More misandry- it gets called out on the second and third slide by people flipping the genders and realising how ridiculous the whole debate is"Isolated sick incident" 😂😂😂😂 | /r/EverydayMisandry | 07/05/24 04:26 PM |
| 4 | The women are wonderful affect is another example of feminsits wanting to have it both ways.Agreed | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/24 03:46 PM |
| 3 | The disappearance of men | Christine Emba from Big ThinkMen being traditionally masculine is the status quo. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/24 03:46 PM |
| 8 | The women are wonderful affect is another example of feminsits wanting to have it both ways.Well put comment. This is also a Paradox too. Where they have both a inferior complex and Superior complex. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/s/HN32ga1Jtt | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/24 03:18 PM |
| 17 | The women are wonderful affect is another example of feminsits wanting to have it both ways.This plays into the issues of men being viewed as monsters, and less valuable to society. When women have this contradiction game with these 3 narratives. It's similar to when women say they don't need men because they are independent. But still expect men to be protectors. Again women being flip floppy with these expectations when it's convenient is harmful to men. You can't say how women are morally better, more valuable (giving birth), and prettier than men. But in the same breath say how all… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/24 09:33 AM |
| 3 | Seeing this made my stomach drop.Yep | /r/EverydayMisandry | 07/05/24 01:12 AM |
| 25 | Seeing this made my stomach drop.If genders are reversed. All of sudden men are incels wishing violence on women. But it's fine when women do it. Because they are oppressed. And misandry is just a response to hundreds of years of misogyny blah blah. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 07/05/24 12:08 AM |
| 6 | The disappearance of men | Christine Emba from Big ThinkIt's interesting how both use homophobia to keep men in check. I have seen both tradcons and progressives call MGTOW closeted gay men for not being obsessed with getting validation from women. It's only hypocritical with the progressive/ feminists, do it because of stuff like them being more likely to be LGBTQ allies. It's almost like both are different sides of the same coun. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 11:43 PM |
| 9 | The disappearance of men | Christine Emba from Big ThinkYep MGTOW is something that would upset both tradcons and feminists. Since MGTOW doesn't uphold the status quo when it comes to male gender roles. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 11:34 PM |
| 8 | The disappearance of men | Christine Emba from Big ThinkI agree. It's why I have over time formed the view that men's liberation is men going their own way. Not needing validation is not being inside whatever box others are trying to place you in. I one billion times agree with this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 10:56 PM |
| 9 | The disappearance of men | Christine Emba from Big ThinkYep at the end of the day positive masculinity is no different from traditional or toxic masculinity. It still does the job of putting men into a box to uphold the status quo. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 10:48 PM |
| 30 | The disappearance of men | Christine Emba from Big Think9:50 "for the good of others, for the good of society as a whole" There you have it folks. Positive masculinity was never about men's mental health. Positive masculinity is always about what men can do for women, kids, and society. Not for themselves. This is why I call positive masculinity a progressive version of traditional masculinity. Where men are still put into a box to get validation from others. Different toilet, but same shit when it comes to positive masculinity vs traditional masculi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 08:24 PM |
| 16 | The disappearance of men | Christine Emba from Big ThinkSociety responded to women's struggles by empowering them to make whatever choices they wanted. Society's responding to men's struggles by concluding it's our nature to be unhappy if we're not being shoved in a box. IMO, there's not many worse ways to insult a group of people. This sums it up perfectly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 08:05 PM |
| 25 | The disappearance of men | Christine Emba from Big Thinkthe world leaders and CEO's are men. This is the apex fallacy. I 80 percent agree with you. Buttt.. Here's the 20 percent. Hate to make it personal. But when it comes to dating preferences. Even women and feminists themselves go after the men at the top of the apex hierarchy. Because even progressive women with successful careers still expect men to adhere to traditional gender roles like being a provider, being ambitious, and being financially successful. Even more successfully than themselves,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 07:58 PM |
| 35 | The disappearance of men | Christine Emba from Big ThinkUgh... another one... So tired of the "we need a positive role model for men" angle. This bugs the hell out of me a lot. It's annoying as the "they are not real men, they are boys" BS you usually hear from tradcons and some feminists. No all men are real men. That includes bad men too. Bad men like abusers or rapists are still real men. Calling them boys takes away accountability from them. It's no different when feminists weaponizing homophobia, by calling misogynistic men closeted gay men. Bec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Apparently 1 in 3 women are attacked by men according to this.Yep | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 06:52 PM |
| 31 | Here we go againThe interesting thing here is. That there is a double standard. Where women are more likely to be chauvinistic because of their trauma. Men are not allowed to use trauma as an excuse for sexism. For example an incel could have tons of unprovoke bad experiences with women. But nobody would try to justify that incel hatred for women. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/05/24 12:47 PM |
| 19 | Here we go again"males" The same people that are upset when people call them females. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/05/24 12:43 PM |
| 10 | Do any other “non-masculine” men also struggle with a lack of acceptance?That's fine with me. I have a lot of feminist views. But I don't tell women this in real life, especially feminists. Because I want to avoid these two reactions from feminsits. Reaction 1: They think I'm a fake male feminist or fake nice guy who wants to get into women pants. By getting brownie points for doing the bare minimum. (I.E. this sub) https://www.reddit.com/r/fourthwavewomen/s/jkBHlBi1MS OR Reaction 2: They act very condescending, and call me a "real man" or a good example of "positive… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 03:35 AM |
| 122 | I wonder where the Skittles Analogy originates... ohAnd these misandists wonder why they are being compared to racists. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 03:25 AM |
| 2 | When you think about it. Positive masculinity is just a gate way drug to toxic masculinity.Very well put post here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 01:17 AM |
| 8 | When you think about it. Positive masculinity is just a gate way drug to toxic masculinity.I agree, masculinity is way too arbitrary. Many cultures and individuals have different takes on masculinity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 01:06 AM |
| 34 | Thoughts on people who use the “when women hate men, men feel upset; when men hate women, women die”?Except for that fact men do get killed by women too. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/05/24 12:44 AM |
| 6 | Still it continuesI have always said this. Great post. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 05/05/24 11:29 PM |
| 13 | Do any other “non-masculine” men also struggle with a lack of acceptance?You don't have to be anti feminist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/24 08:16 PM |
| 45 | Do any other “non-masculine” men also struggle with a lack of acceptance?< I really don't understand how we can be against gender roles for women but not have anything to say on the recent widespread trend of expecting men to be masculine and be a 'provider'. The thing that ignores me the most is not feminists not caring about issues. It's the fact they actually try to justify man issues, by saying men should struggle because women are oppressed, because they view male gender roles as "positive masculinity", or a combination of both of these. I mean if some feminists… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/24 08:12 PM |
| 3 | Feminist Spaces Frequently Encourage Hateful or Uncompassionate Attitudes Towards MenYep they don't want male feminists. They just want men to pander to them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/24 05:53 PM |
| 1 | How do women maintain mental consistency dating men while believing in "the bear pill"?Isn't bear also random in this scenario too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 06:20 AM |
| 24 | The man vs bear experiment has awoken me to misandry.Good post. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 05/05/24 05:40 AM |
| 3 | This Woman Hits The Target About The Bear vs Man SituationThat could be 3. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/24 01:04 AM |
| 24 | This Woman Hits The Target About The Bear vs Man Situation1: they are afraid of unattractive men, lower status men, or poor men. Attractive men are fine. All this analogy is just a way to shit on average men. No different from red pill or manosphere men always coming up with ways to hate on fat women or unattractive women. 2: Back then when it was more dangerous for women. Women still had less irrational fear. Compared to the modern day women whose brains are ruined by lifetime movies, true crime content, and tik tok. Despite western women living in th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/24 11:51 PM |
| 12 | Now, pointing out sexism apparently makes me feel guilty of the "apparent" creepy inside meI still think Internalized misandry is a very fitting term here. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 04/05/24 11:02 PM |
| 10 | Now, pointing out sexism apparently makes me feel guilty of the "apparent" creepy inside meI like how these women are writing off any man that disagrees with them as creepy because they feel like the shoe fit. But let a man be indifferent or neutral to them. All of a sudden that man is automatically on the side of the oppressor, because he is not disagreeing or agreeing. You can't make this shit up. By that same logic white women shouldn't be offended by the blatant misogyny associated with the term Karen. Since that just proves a part of them are racists. With their white women tears… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 04/05/24 10:57 PM |
| 5 | Society still has a weird reaction towards men that are introverted, serious, or aloof. Despite being very critical of men that are the opposite.More male characters that don't do stuff for the validation of others. More self centered characters, but not in a bad way though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/24 10:03 PM |
| 24 | Apparently 1 in 3 women are attacked by men according to this.You would think if the fear was rational. These women would move out of this man-made society. And move in the woods with bears. So they would feel safe from the violent men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/24 08:19 PM |
| 12 | Apparently 1 in 3 women are attacked by men according to this.Redditors: AHAHAHAH YOU ARE SO DEFENSIVE, YOUR MASCULINITY IS SO TOXIC AND FRAIL, YOU HAVE A SHORT PEE-PEE LOL Don't forget them calling men gay or calling them virgins. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/24 08:16 PM |
| 9 | Apparently 1 in 3 women are attacked by men according to this.And most of the violent crimes are gang violence. Men usually join gangs. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/24 08:14 PM |
| 7 | Because misandry doesn't happen in real lifeSeema goes for misogyny too. Since people are more bold online. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 04/05/24 04:03 PM |
| 17 | Society still has a weird reaction towards men that are introverted, serious, or aloof. Despite being very critical of men that are the opposite.They see me as the "alternative" to that and could not even see me as a real man lmao. This is very true. Men are stuck between being desperate horny men lusting at women. Or women gay besties. 😂😂 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/24 06:44 AM |
| 12 | Man Bear MegathreadThe funny thing is they feel entitled to more than the bare minimum. Because they consider men risking their life to protect women is the bare minimum. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/24 12:27 AM |
| 23 | Man Bear MegathreadIt trivializes every good man in existence. I have never done anything to hurt any woman, nor will I ever do so unless I need to do so in self defense. Demonizing bad men is one thing - demonizing all men for the actions of some men is an ecological fallacy at best. Making good men feel like shit for the actions of bad men helps NO ONE, all it does is make it more difficult to be a good man. Like yes, men are disproportionately depraved, let's make their mental health even worse. The thing that … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 08:10 PM |
| 25 | Feminist Spaces Frequently Encourage Hateful or Uncompassionate Attitudes Towards MenYep that's we can never be true male feminists in their eyes. We have to walk on eggshells around women to not offend them. And also pander to women needs all the time. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 03:51 PM |
| 86 | I'm tired of being viewed as a weaponWhat I hate the most is the fact that they view men as a weapon when it is convenient to them. One day men are told they are toxic masculinity and violent, and compare to walking talking weapons. But the next day men are told to be used as weapons to protect women, because it's positive masculinity. What do you guys do when you feel the world hates you? When everyone is afraid of you? So what I do, is by not taking them seriously. You see how hypocritical they can be. So I don't try to feel too … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 05:12 AM |
| 6 | Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.The government seeing a bunch of men rally together will surely alarm them. Facts. They don't like the stats quo being challenge 😂😂 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 04:03 AM |
| 11 | Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.It's already happening to some extent. Don't be surprised if you see more vids like this from women in the future. https://youtu.be/XlipTAynX6k?si=mKQ3Rm_hV09nUokb They start off like these women in the view. (https://youtu.be/gBv9atuOEqY?si=U2AU9NHuZuX6jUqP) And then become like the women in the car | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 03:55 AM |
| 78 | Man Bear MegathreadSo the fear isn't genuine then? You guys just want to trigger men? 🤔 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 03:51 AM |
| 29 | Man Bear MegathreadMe too. I just find it super hypocritical that they still want to benefit from a man made society. And still expect men to be protectors when they want to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 01:44 AM |
| 88 | Man Bear Megathreadhttps://www.reddit.com/r/NahOPwasrightfuckthis/s/I78uEozbfe "Tracks. It's not like bears are going around thinking about having sex with human women. Berries, trout, taking a nap for months at a time... but not a whole lot of human sex in there. Play dead with a bear and they'll lose interest. Play dead with a human man and you'd better hope he's not a necrophiliac." So all men are potential necrophiliacs now. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 01:42 AM |
| 44 | Man v bear episode 592As a man I'm not proving shit to anyone. I'm not going to be "one of the good ones" to prove my humanity to you. You can fuck off. Because I have nothing to prove to you. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 03/05/24 12:31 AM |
| 3 | When it comes to the bear over man analogy. Notice how the narrative is different from the protect women narrative.At this point I think men are the most hated "oppressor" class. Holy shit lol. I know a lot of people may disagree with me here. But I honestly think if black people were talking about white people on this level. Or gay people were doing the same with straight people. There would be a huge push back. Of course I'm not ignoring the double standards, when it comes to race or sexuality too. But it seems like it's more socially accepted for women to be sexist towards men compared to any other privil… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 12:28 AM |
| 19 | Sexism at its finestI'm definitely telling my kid to pick a male worker at the job rather than a random female stranger. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 03/05/24 12:09 AM |
| 3 | When it comes to the bear over man analogy. Notice how the narrative is different from the protect women narrative.Probably the same complaining about men not interacting with them anymore, men not protecting them, or men not providing for them. I thought they didn't need men. Again it's all about the narrative when it's convenient. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 12:08 AM |
| 3 | When it comes to the bear over man analogy. Notice how the narrative is different from the protect women narrative.It’s quite the mindfuck the often contradictory messages they are constantly sending to men. This indeed. This comment explains this way better than me. Lol. Men are also toxic masculinity for having that physical strength, because it makes women uncomfortable. But at the same time men are also positive masculinity for having that same physical strength when it comes to defending women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 10:41 PM |
| 7 | When it comes to the bear over man analogy. Notice how the narrative is different from the protect women narrative.First all of these fathers are projecting themselves onto other men. Because they were like that when they were younger. These would probably be the same type of men that would probably call me gay in high school or college for not sexualizing women. They are overprotective and do cringe worthy things like scaring their daughters boyfriends with guns and violence. My favorite thing is the meme when the fathers of the sons confront men like this for pulling put guns on their young sons . And thes… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 10:15 PM |
| 28 | Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.It's almost as if society hasn't fully understood that asking men to be more vulnerable and in touch with their emotions only works if society is going to care. Because when society doesn't care and these boys/men have exhausted themselves to be heard and to receive compassion but are ridiculed and told they don't deserve to have those feelings ;that they end up turning those emotions into much more dangerous ones. Then more men will become a modern/mutation version of MGTOW because of this. And… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 09:55 PM |
| 26 | Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.The thing that pissed me off the most. Is that they say this nonsense when it comes to men protecting women. Saying that the worse men have to worry about is being called a simp or white knight. Knowing dam well that men's lives are at a bigger risk than women usually in these situations. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 09:24 PM |
| 7 | When it comes to the bear over man analogy. Notice how the narrative is different from the protect women narrative.Very true | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 08:16 PM |
| 27 | When it comes to the bear over man analogy. Notice how the narrative is different from the protect women narrative.Yep. It's either two things. They are just being inflammatory to get attention by making men mad. And even get attention from male pick me feminists to be validated. Or they have an irrational fear. Because they watch too many movies, true crime stories, or are told by their conservative/ feminist dad how violent and gross men are their whole life. I won't be surprised if a huge chunk of these women are either being inflammatory or irrational. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Phil Mitchell facing online harassment from misandrists again- Part 2It's really convenient that she said men created this system (the patriarchy). But yet she thinks the expectation to protect women is not oppressive for men. And probably thinks it's a good thing (I.E. "positive masculinity"). So therefore she likes certain parts of the system that benefit her and other women. Almost like a socialist benefits from getting a lot of expensive things. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 07:46 PM |
| 4 | Pennsylvania nurse pleads guilty to killing patients with lethal doses of insulinComments when men do it. "Men are dangerous." "This is why women choose the bears" "Grizzle Grizzle" Comments when women do it. "WTF is wrong with humanity." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 06:14 PM |
| 16 | Being Okay with Being Treated the Same Way Racists Treat Black PeopleAnyway not trusting people by default is one thing; I certainly don't trust women by default either. Why wouldn't you trust women? Even if they are strangers you don't know. They are wonderful. Women can never do anything wrong. R/ sarcasm | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 05:30 PM |
| 14 | Being Okay with Being Treated the Same Way Racists Treat Black PeopleI don't understand how women can be these spiritual people with great intuition who can spot bad men easily. But at the same time they are like kids are easily manipulated by men cosplaying as nice guys though. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 05:26 PM |
| 17 | "I don't give a shit about men's pronlems."Feminists be like: "Women are the only ones that care about men's issues, other men usually are the ones perpetrating men issues". (even though some women issues are usually perpetuated by other women too) "The patriarchy harms men too." "Feminism is for men too. It can help men with their issues." "Why do you need men's rights, when men can get anything they want under Feminism." Feminists also be like: "it's a not a woman job help solved men issues. It's on men to fix their own issues". I mean… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 05:06 PM |
| 12 | Men are "biologically hardwired" to be pedos.They just don't view the young boys as actual. victims. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 04:49 PM |
| 1 | If It Was the Other Way Around He Would Get Called an Unhinged Boy MomOh boy do women (especially feminists) love being put on a pedestal. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 05:23 AM |
| 4 | Got banned for my comment.What does this have to do with men issues? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 02:08 AM |
| 92 | Is it just me or can men no longer enjoy something without some sort of guilt trip about how a certain medium is ''male-dominated''?So women need to be present to keep them behaving. But..... Why would women want to be around violent men. When they prefer bears. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 12:35 AM |
| 12 | More on man v bearNot quite. There is usually a big uproar when men decide to start avoiding women. Classic example of some women wanting to have it both ways. They don't understand that they need to make some sacrifices in order to live in a progressive society. Don't want catcallers, men always hitting on women, and male strangers always trying to talk to women in public. Then stop expecting real life to be a romantic movie where men have to be the ones to approach women first, always pursue women, and always "… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 12:12 AM |
| 22 | More on man v bearThe funny thing is that they can probably better defend themselves off against a violent man in the woods than a bear. Kick a guy the balls, kill a man with a weapon. No human has a defense for a bear. Even bears take gunshots lol. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 12:08 AM |
| 7 | More on man v bear. I don't want to play that head game with me. Want my attention, talk to me without stupid games. Bingo I stopped taking this topic seriously. And I said I don't care if the woman chooses the bear. If you want to be with the bear then go. A couple of women give me side eyes for this. 😂😂 It's just a game to get men's attention. Whether they get off on making men mad. Or wanting the pick me male feminists to come give them validation. Or both. It's more likely both lol. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 12:06 AM |
| 14 | More on man v bearIt's F up that these women are low key accusing the men who disagree with them of being abusers. Implying that any man that disagrees would harm a woman in the woods alone. I was told the same thing too. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/05/24 12:01 AM |
| 3 | (Second response)- you could literally flip this on its head where men don’t know which women are dangerous. Of course assuming everybody from a particular gender as dangerous in the first place *is* extremely obtuse.But yet in a dangerous situation. They still expect random male strangers to risk their lives to save or protect women they don't know. Even though they view the random male strangers as potential rapists, because they don't know them. But they know these male strangers enough, that they can expect them to be superheroes. 🤦 | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/05/24 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Delivery man flirts with woman- “ugh I wish furniture would be delivered by bears”. Delivery woman flirts with man- “you go, girl!”I agree too. But we need to normalize men being neutral to women's beauty, in society though. Men often are judge when they don't acknowledge how hot a woman is. They are called gay, by a lot of women too. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/05/24 09:20 PM |
| 4 | Delivery man flirts with woman- “ugh I wish furniture would be delivered by bears”. Delivery woman flirts with man- “you go, girl!”The same women who would probably question men's sexuality or use gay as insults on men. Whenever men don't acknowledge how beautiful women's are. They always want to have it both ways. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/05/24 09:18 PM |
| 9 | Man vs bear *still* going on.To them men are either superheroes and supervillains. They have a black and white thinking of men. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/05/24 09:12 PM |
| 20 | The issue misogynists and TERFs share in common is the idea that men are utterly controlled by their sexual attitude.Especially when it comes to benevolent sexism, always viewing women as vulnerable children who need to be protected. When it comes to both thinking it's a man's job to protect women. Feminists just call it positive masculinity, instead of traditional masculinity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 09:05 PM |
| 3 | This “would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or bear” thing is still going on. Who is “men”?These same still choose to live in a society with men. Instead of going to live with the "safe" bears. And even then that is when they will expect men to jump in and save them from the violent bear. It's Grizzle Grizzle, until you want a man to be your protector. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/05/24 08:51 PM |
| 11 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.Or don't expect men to risk their life to protect you from a bear. https://youtu.be/vXQ__HFBorI?si=q9WGkQ1B5QLBwMik | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 12:12 PM |
| 13 | WowThe same people who would call men insane for saying women should get drafted to war, because men always have to do it. But it's more normalized In society to say men should have it just as bad as women. But the opposite is considered too bad for them. So it's funny how men are called immature by feminists for waiting women to deal with the extreme stuff their gender usually deals with. But yet the same feminists still give women a pass for doing the same thing because they are oppressed, and th… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/05/24 12:11 AM |
| 6 | Man Bear In The Woods With A PigThey are going to use the excuse of women being physically weaker. Even though men are not bullet proof superhumans who are immune to guns, knives, multiple attackers, or even a bigger attacker can still overpower a smaller man. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 07:44 PM |
| 14 | Man Bear In The Woods With A PigI won't be surprised if most of their views on dangerous men are based on stereotypes. Change the analogy to two men. Chris Brown, and Rowan Atkinson. And they didn't know Chris Brown history (albeit history doesn't even stop or scare a lot of women who still want to engage with him) And all of a sudden women would be more likely to pick Chris Brown over Rowan Atkinson because of the halo effect. They are more likely to stereotype men that look like Rowan Atkinson as creeps. And probably view me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 02:05 PM |
| 19 | Man Bear In The Woods With A PigI still don't understand why more women don't get into the 4B moment or make their female version of mgtow. If men scare them so much. Just end any interaction with men. Oh wait they still benefit from interacting with men. I guessed those benefits would be hard to give up. And they will truly pick the status quo over the bear. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 01:39 PM |
| 16 | Man Bear In The Woods With A PigI saw a man yelling at the camera "every man is getting upset about the man vs bear debate, but not ONE has apologized and said they'd do better!!!" I think it putrid and that made me want to cry. These are the typical "I'm not like other girls," pick me male feminists. Who thinks they are better compared to other men. It's funny how not like other girls means being into video games, cars, and sports. But not like other boys means not being misogynistic, abusers, or rapists to them. Show how soc… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 01:29 PM |
| 21 | Man Bear In The Woods With A PigThe thing that ignores me the most about the bear analogy. Is the fact that the same women would probably be more likely to expect a man to protect them from a violent bear, if both are in the woods together. That's the part most women, feminists, and male feminists won't talk about. I wonder why 🤔. Lol | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 01:23 PM |
| 6 | SnoozeIn that scenario a racist person can choose a bear over a black person. Just based on negative experiences with black people. So that would be fine to these people right? 🤔 | /r/EverydayMisandry | 29/04/24 11:05 PM |
| 7 | SnoozeAgain these are the same people who would expect men to sacrifice themselves to protect a woman from a bear. If both genders are ever running from a bear. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 29/04/24 11:03 PM |
| 40 | Men are hated for having certain traits deem as toxic masculinity. But men will always be judge way worse for the alternatives to those traits when it comes to everyday interactions with women.Hit the nail right on the coffin with this comment. It's only toxic masculinity with it doesn't benefit women. But it's positive masculinity when it does benefit women though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/24 12:53 AM |
| 6 | Men are hated for having certain traits deem as toxic masculinity. But men will always be judge way worse for the alternatives to those traits when it comes to everyday interactions with women.This is very true too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/24 12:12 AM |
| 146 | Why doesn't intersectionality theory able to explain the disadvantage of men?intersectionality also ignores the fact that black men face police brutality way more than black women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/24 09:50 PM |
| 6 | Traditionalism is not the answer for men's well-being.1000 percent agree with this post. This is what the right and red pill try to do. They try to trick men by pretending they care about their issues. But they really want to wield men into traditionalism as a pseudo way to fix their issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/24 08:26 PM |
| 24 | Men are evilBingo | /r/EverydayMisandry | 28/04/24 07:46 PM |
| 17 | Men are evilAgain probably the same women who would shame a man if he out runs a woman from the same animals. Because they expect men to protect women. LMAO. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 28/04/24 07:44 PM |
| 2 | The absolute state that is r/menslibbAnd it keeps going. As you filter down into smaller and smaller populations who are even willing to entertain these points instead of just calling you an incel or whatever and ignoring it, they'll say, "yes, but it's not all just men's fault. We all uphold patriarchy." That's something like the Bell Hooks position who I rarely see anyone but men bring up anyway. But of course, how successful has her message of women challenging the harmful ways they treat men been? There is a huge chunk of femin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/24 01:22 PM |
| 53 | The type of men who feminists generalize men off of (the only kind of men who are misogynistic). Here's some info about them:The irony is feminists engage in a lot of virgin shaming. They also engage in homophobia too ironically. Since they think a lot of misogynistic men are deeply closeted gay men because they hate women. And these are probably the same feminists or liberal women who would be disgusted at the idea of dating bisexual men. Who has this same type of thinking about misogynistic men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/24 08:50 PM |
| 20 | The type of men who feminists generalize men off of (the only kind of men who are misogynistic). Here's some info about them:Society is more likely to call out hostile sexism. Hence why the red pill, incels, and manosphere communities are the most mock content on the internet. And content creators always make fun of them, because they are low hanging fruit. And they will never get in trouble for making fun of these people. Even if they are being disrespectful too. Meanwhile benevolent sexism is normalized by society. This is why I or men like me can never be a "true male feminists". Not because we hate the idea of fem… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/24 08:43 PM |
| 6 | The absolute state that is r/menslibb(Example: Homophobia. In the minds of a lot of people homophobia against men is actually hatred of the feminine. Therefore if men want to stop homophobia they must first deal with the way the feminine is hated. Absolute crock of shit I know....) The same women saying that are the same ones who are turned off by the idea by dating bisexual men, because they view bi men as "feminine" or not "real men". Lol | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/24 07:26 PM |
| 6 | Way to say you don’t say about male mental healthMe too | /r/EverydayMisandry | 27/04/24 03:44 PM |
| 5 | The absolute state that is r/menslibbIt's like a person with a gunshot wound telling someone with a stab wound they shouldn't be at the hospital because a gunshot is worse. Perfect analogy to describe this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/24 01:47 PM |
| 16 | The absolute state that is r/menslibbAmen | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/24 09:13 PM |
| 27 | The absolute state that is r/menslibb😂😂😂😂 exactly a great way to sum it up. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/24 08:54 PM |
| 269 | The absolute state that is r/menslibbThe 3 stages of denial. Step 1 Misandry doesn't exist: So men are talking about an issue that doesn't exist. Step 2 They downplay the effects of misandry: Because misandry isn't as bad as misogyny, because women face more issues. Step 3 They flat out justified misandry: Saying men deserved hate, because they are the oppressors and created the patriarchy. So misandry is their fault. It never surprises me whenever I have arguments with feminists or see arguments with feminists. Where they go throu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/24 07:44 PM |
| 8 | According to the moderators on the View, men are useless.I would be fine with women not needing us. But most women usually have the opposite reaction to their words. https://youtu.be/XlipTAynX6k?si=ty8unYJM7PEMuS-O So which is it. Do women need men? Or don't need men? If so don't expect help from random male strangers. And don't expect men to adhere to traditional gender roles like providing, protecting, and being chivalrous. If I had a dime for every time women say they don't need men. Only to do a complete 180 like this woman in the video. I would b… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 24/04/24 09:08 PM |
| 34 | Comparing men to bears again and mocking the (factual) “not all men” phraseThe hilarious thing here is if a bear attacks both a man and women. Everybody expects the man to risk his live to protect the woman from the bear. And will judge the man's masculinity harshly if he runs faster than the woman. Boy I hate this world. Thanos was right. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 23/04/24 02:03 PM |
| 6 | Ironically enough male feminists kind of perpaute the worse stereotypes about men.I hate those men. And they are just probably projecting too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/24 12:31 AM |
| 2 | Am I the only one who thinks the talk of toxic masculinity is nothing more than a shit test/manipulation test from society in order for the powers that be to keep looking for things to scrutinize in men?I assume you're intelligent enough to realise, don't have a specific look. Which means we'll gradually just let the more pathologically remorseless ones into our homes. Oh boy I would hate to live in a world where vigilante justice is a legal thing for these people. The halo effect criminals would trick the same people with their charm. And they will let them in on their homes. Never question them because they would never commit those heinous crimes right. While they would put false allegations … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/24 04:27 PM |
| 2 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badTrue, but I still think this is more rare. After all men have the gender expectations of always being the one to approach women first, pursue women, be openly horny, be a player, and be chivalrous towards woman. So it makes sense why men would get their sexuality questioned on average by people/society, because of the masculine gender expectations. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/24 12:10 AM |
| 11 | “Men don’t care about women’s well-being”😂😂😂 | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/04/24 12:30 PM |
| 14 | Ironically enough male feminists kind of perpaute the worse stereotypes about men.This was mostly a joke. Since Destiny doesn't fit the typical stereotype of a male feminist. Since he can get real heated with women in debates too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/24 02:22 AM |
| 24 | “Drizzle Drizzle” has officially obliterated “Sprinkle Sprinkle”. . .& modern women are incensed over it!I don't agree with how you worded this OP. I hate the term "modern" woman. Sounds too red pill. But the Drizzle Drizzle thing on TikTok which I admit has been pretty funny. Basically the guys are just using all of the logic some women have been using on men but from a male perspective and a lot of women can’t even begin to realize that these men are just showing them a mirror. Flipping the script. But women are going straight to using homophobia and calling them gay or saying things like “maybe … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/04/24 02:15 AM |
| 2 | Why is "positive masculinity" something that is pushed in progressive circles, but nothing like "positive femininity"?Found the tradcon or feminist. Who knows I can't tell the difference these days when it comes to opinions about men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/24 08:55 PM |
| 3 | Why is "positive masculinity" something that is pushed in progressive circles, but nothing like "positive femininity"?The real counter punch is Internalized misandry. For example, that one male comedian who said women have to worry about serious stuff like rape. While men don't. Since men only have to worry about WIFI. That man suffers from Internalized misandry. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/24 08:50 PM |
| 16 | Am I the only one who thinks the talk of toxic masculinity is nothing more than a shit test/manipulation test from society in order for the powers that be to keep looking for things to scrutinize in men?A woman saying what a "real man" is not as bad as a man doing the opposite. In some cases it's a good thing for women to do that because of positive masculinity. And all men should want to live up to that standard. Because it benefits women..... It makes men happy. And we don't care about men's wants or needs. But when men do the same thing they are called misogynistic. I remember saying something on another sub. How it's ok for women and feminists themselves to have a preference for dating trad… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/24 08:45 PM |
| 15 | Am I the only one who thinks the talk of toxic masculinity is nothing more than a shit test/manipulation test from society in order for the powers that be to keep looking for things to scrutinize in men?I think human behavior is spontaneous for the most part: people aren't as calculated and intentional, rather they're driven by emotions and a contradicting superego. It's no different from people who want prison reform for criminals. They think murders and robbers can change because they are just products of their environment and think the death penalty is unnecessary. But yet the same people don't want the same reform rapists and pedophiles. And want them to die or get brutally killed. Notice h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/24 08:34 PM |
| 7 | Only men spitI saw a women spit in work trash cans all the time at my job lol. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 19/04/24 10:51 AM |
| 6 | Why is "positive masculinity" something that is pushed in progressive circles, but nothing like "positive femininity"?Honestly said it better than me here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/24 04:54 PM |
| 27 | This is a stretchI don't get it. If they think these men are losers and rapists that would harm women. Why would these same women be upset with them getting A.I. Robots lol. Would this reduce the amount of creepy men going after women? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/04/24 11:34 AM |
| 153 | Why is "positive masculinity" something that is pushed in progressive circles, but nothing like "positive femininity"?Positive masculinity is just a way to trick men into following traditional gender roles that benefit women, and to uphold the status quo. It is just traditional masculinity with a female gaze this time. Watch any romantic movie or the Gillette commercial. You will see how the male characters acted in both. And you will get their idea of what positive masculinity means to them. If men are not providing for women or protecting women then something ain't right to them lol. And also positive masculi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/24 11:49 PM |
| 7 | Completely ignoring male rape/coercion victims at the hands of female perpetratorsYou can tell the same advice to both genders. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 17/04/24 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Apparently, a man with a funny oversized 711 cup is oppressive to women nowI'm confused here. Not at you OP lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/24 08:38 PM |
| 36 | “Only feminists care about men’s emotions- other men don’t”😂😂😂😂😂 The same people saying it's not women's job to care about men's emotions or issues because men are the oppressors | /r/EverydayMisandry | 17/04/24 02:25 PM |
| 5 | Male behavior is both encourage and demonize at the same time by society.Amazing post. I totally understand how male behavior can come off as something bad. Sounds like I'm connecting male behavior to DNA. That's not my intention. But I understand why this is worded poorly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/24 10:03 PM |
| 7 | “Why’re you hating like a man?”Some women like to treat women like kids. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 16/04/24 05:42 PM |
| 28 | "They only bring this up to derail Women": Perception as RealityProbably the same people saying "women have it worse" or "Cry Me a River" whenever the male loneliness epidemic topic is brought up | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/24 03:39 PM |
| 7 | Thoughts on the 4b moment? And why I think the male equivalent is usually mock by society.Don't agree. Odd take here Conversely, some could be latent lesbians, I suppose, but I've never looked into it much, b/c I find few things more dull than lesbians or lesbian sex (speaking as a straight male). This is no different from what they are saying. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/24 09:10 AM |
| 25 | Thoughts on the 4b moment? And why I think the male equivalent is usually mock by society.Yep the Drizzle Drizzle is very funny. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/24 02:22 AM |
| 5 | YawnThese are probably the same women that think women issues should be the default issues everyone should care about. Especially for men. Since men are expected to be the superheroes that protect women. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/04/24 09:32 PM |
| 32 | More misandrist attitudesWhen bear attacks she will expect a man to risk his life for her. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/04/24 11:41 AM |
| 7 | On a post about the popularity of yaoi in Japan. I don’t think they will ever realize the irony of thisFair enough point here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/24 08:56 AM |
| 99 | On a post about the popularity of yaoi in Japan. I don’t think they will ever realize the irony of thisThe irony here is also Feminists hate it when equality also takes away women's benefits too. But yet they love doing this with men. For example Feminists would generalize men's idea of equality. And say all men want to hit women back, want women to get drafted to war, or want women to lift heavy things by themselves. Making it seem like all men have a very childish view of equality. But then again ironically the same Feminists would turn around and have the same childish view of equality between… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/24 01:18 AM |
| 44 | On a post about the popularity of yaoi in Japan. I don’t think they will ever realize the irony of thisI'm just making sure the stereotype of the terminally horny straight man is not being perpetuated too much. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/24 01:11 AM |
| 42 | On a post about the popularity of yaoi in Japan. I don’t think they will ever realize the irony of thisNot every man wants sexual attention. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/24 01:08 AM |
| 7 | Why the oppressor versus the opressed dichotomy is very nonsensical in the context of gender and intersectionalityYes, as well as how feminism is basically just a desire for matriarchy I would argue how most feminists still want the good parts of the patriarchy that benefit women too. Protecting women, providing for women, and being chivalrous towards women. You know all the benevolent sexism stuff that is supposed to be bad for women because it takes away agency from women by making them children. So they want a hybrid of the matriarchy and patriarchy. So the best of both worlds nonsense again lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/24 04:59 PM |
| 6 | Why the oppressor versus the opressed dichotomy is very nonsensical in the context of gender and intersectionalityLot of conservative women are often outspoken feminists. Hilarious thing here is that even liberal feminists themselves point this out about conservative women. Saying feminism is the reason why they can speak their mind and opinion, or have careers and goals. So this means feminists can't pretend that a lot of women don't want it both ways. Since they are also pointing out how conservative women benefit from feminism too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/24 04:55 PM |
| 22 | Why the oppressor versus the opressed dichotomy is very nonsensical in the context of gender and intersectionalitySo why whiteness and maleness are analogous? A lot of leftists and feminists are in a tough spot or paradox here. If they admit black men face sexism for being men. Then would have to admit that men do have gender based issues too. Or they would have to ignore racism against black people. And think police treat all races equally. It's like that meme where the character struggle to pick a button. Admit sexism against men exist on one button. Or admit there is no racism against black people on the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/24 11:34 PM |
| 33 | Why the oppressor versus the opressed dichotomy is very nonsensical in the context of gender and intersectionalityAfter all, it is more preferable to be the wife of a CEO than to be a CEO yourself. The vast majority of wealthy women do not work, do not cook, do not clean, and oftentimes don't even raise their own children. They have chefs, maids, and babysitters who handle all of that. Many have vacation homes financed by their husbands where they go to sip margaritas all day long by the beach. This is freaking spot on. Doesn't matter how much feminists complain about these successful men or "high value men… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/24 11:13 PM |
| 11 | This video has good intentions. But still misses the point a lot.But of course him being a leftoid, called her out in the most empathetic "walking on eggshells" kinda way. Also notice he has no problem taking the gloves off when calling out problematic men like the red pill men or incels. Can't really say this is ok because only men can only go hard on other men. When this doesn't stop women from calling out men without any concern for their feelings. So it's ok since men are an easy target for everybody, and women are oppressed. So he has to take it easy on … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/04/24 12:56 AM |
| 9 | Why are males more likely to be conservative, and females more liberal?True even some feminists are pro gun too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/24 09:10 PM |
| 32 | Why are males more likely to be conservative, and females more liberal?Honestly to me most people are just socially conservative. Even progressive people too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/24 08:54 PM |
| 22 | Who is men?She is her hating men phase. Too bad this is accepted, normalized, and encouraged by society to men. At least men get help or "help". Since society at least bullies the F out of men when they are in this phase of life when hating women. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/04/24 07:29 PM |
| 7 | In Ukraine men aren't safe, no matter the ageEven though some women are also in favor of this. Since people tend to forget that women make up 50 percent of the population. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/24 05:07 PM |
| 13 | Homophobia and misandry rolled into oneThis is new. Usually the homophobia is targeted at straight men to attack their manhood or shame them for not living up to traditional masculine expectations. This homophobia is directly targeted at gay men this time. Which is still bad of course. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/04/24 11:20 AM |
| 15 | *sigh*No one should take Lil Tay seriously lol. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/04/24 09:41 AM |
| 60 | Even intersectional feminists often erase feminine men and boys.To put it simply some feminists just don't view feminine men as "real men" ironically. Even on a personal level this is very common among both straight women and bisexual women. Where these same feminists don't even like the slightest of "feminine traits" in their male partners. A man don't even have to have a feminine aesthetic like wearing dresses or painting their nails. Even masculine men who are less assertive/confident/dominant are viewed as "feminine" by society, even to some women/femini… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/24 09:09 AM |
| 18 | Traditionalism/Conservatism is in many ways compatible with feminism.I mean really, no feminist would accept "positive femininity" as anything other than sexist rhetoric. Funny enough, an MRA just tried that sort of thing on me over at r/MensRights , comparing me negatively with another "woman poster" who received a warm welcome for - surprise, surprise - showing no signs of independent thought whatsoever. Yeah I agree positive masculinity/feminist just means stuff I like the opposite gender to do. Because I like it. That's what it all boils down too lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/24 02:10 AM |
| 47 | Traditionalism/Conservatism is in many ways compatible with feminism.What seems apparent to me that a metamorphoses occured to the traditional male role of the silent, faceless, nameless providing, protecting cannon-fodder role of man, where supposedly the emancipation of women should have extinguished the male responsibilities as well - only for it to be rekindled upon the emergence of immanent gynocentric problems. We all know about the paradox of feminism. Where they want liberalism for women. And conservatism for men. The sad thing is there would be no proble… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/24 01:07 AM |
| 23 | Just released to YouTube: 60 hours of video/audio of courtroom arguments by attorneys for men who were railroaded out of college because of sham Title IX investigations into their alleged misconduct.This is wonderful OP. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/24 08:02 PM |
| 7 | What are the cultural aspects of your society that are harmful to men's mental health?Protect women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/24 04:43 PM |
| 9 | why do online leftists outside this sub hate it?That new "brand" of feminism you describe thrives on its own without any influence from the right. I agree for the most part. But I also think the influence from the right comes in the form of these new brand feminists still believing in benevolent sexism and traditional gender roles that affect men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/24 02:56 PM |
| 44 | why do online leftists outside this sub hate it?What some people on the left fail to realize is that feminists are actually perpetuating men issues in some cases. Because some feminists like a lot of women still judge men for not living up to patriarchal gender roles or certain toxic/traditional Masculinity standards, by calling these standards positive masculinity ironically. Most people don't bring this up because they forget that women the other 50 percent of the population perpetuate the Patriarchy too. And then they also forget that femi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/24 02:54 PM |
| 3 | Male privilege seems to only be strong when enhance by other privileges.Men who are lower class have it incredibly worse. You're more likely to be homeless, more likely to commit suicide, more likely to have addiction, more likely to uneducated, more likely to be single, more likely to have worse health outcomes, more likely to die at pretty much every age group and get longer prison sentences for the same crimes. Tell me how this does not constitute being part of a discriminated demographic yet feminists will argue they are still privileged purely because of what t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/24 02:44 PM |
| 10 | How much do you align with the “traditional” male gender role?I go with 5. I want to abolish gender roles. Because society has done a shit job with them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/24 05:35 AM |
| 4 | Is Male Loneliness Self-Inflicted?1000 percent agree here. Even if other men are attacking these men socially. These men are still going to form communities with other men who understand them for better or for worse. Not women, despite the popular belief/myth of women being the only ones men show emotion too. Causing women to deal with "emotional labor" and "trauma dumping". At least other men understand these men. Because they probably are going through the same thing or had the same experience in the past. This is something mo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/24 05:33 AM |
| 33 | Is Male Loneliness Self-Inflicted?Feminists encourage men to be allies and help with women issues. Because that's what positive masculinity is and what "real men" are to them. They think all men should be inspired to be positive masculine men when it comes to women issues. I mean they had a whole Gillette commercial about men being better. But when it comes to men issues. All of sudden the same feminists are saying not my problem bro. Now I have an unpopular opinion here I would give them a pass for having this "it’s not our job… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/24 05:27 AM |
| 58 | Do men blame women for their problems?They also project when they think most men want women to fix their issues for them. Since they are the ones who usual expect men to fix women issues lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/24 05:20 AM |
| 3 | Male privilege seems to only be strong when enhance by other privileges.but I believe that society at large is very protective of those traits. Even feminists are ironically protective of those traits too lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/24 01:24 AM |
| 13 | Male privilege seems to only be strong when enhance by other privileges.And I hate to make this personal. But screw it. If you take a look at the dating preferences of most women and feminists. They tend to only date the same traditional masculine men they claim to hate so much because of their male privilege. The average man is invisible to them. I believe feminsits preferences exposed the flaws of their thinking here. Because it creates a paradox that puts feminists in a tough spot. A lot of feminists idea of a real man is based in traditional masculinity when it … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/24 01:13 AM |
| 13 | It’s exhausting and infuriating having to always “be the bigger man”Took the words right out of my mouth with this comment. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/24 01:50 PM |
| 76 | What's your thoughts about this video: Why the political worldviews of young men and women are increasingly diverging | DW AnalysisThis leaves out the fact that a lot of women are still socially conservative. And only liberal when it comes to women issues. Almost similar to how black people are only liberal when it comes to black related issues. These same liberal women can still have homophobic/ transphobic views or traditional views. Those views are usually targeted at straight men, gay men, bisexual men, and transwomen. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/24 05:26 AM |
| 2 | Young Black men are dying by suicide at alarming ratesFD will call anything that points out that (white) women were rapists and pdf-files on the plantation as misogyny and an act of "trying to take away women's rights". He's a joke, and constantly tries to flex how better of a man he is and how he can provide for his family and how he lives the middle class white household in contrast to the other "bitter black men" in the black manosphere, like I should care. The irony of him is he's all about helping men (from the feminist pov) but perpetuates to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/24 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Young Black men are dying by suicide at alarming ratesCheck out Dr. Curry after reading this. He had a really good take on black men when it comes to manhood. But a really popular YouTuber called FD has a different opinion though. He thinks Dr. Curry is misogynistic for some reason lol. This is off topic. But I feel it's important to mention this. Since Dr. Curry is a pretty good mindset here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/24 03:12 AM |
| 3 | Young Black men are dying by suicide at alarming ratesWhere has this sub gone to if your bitter comment is upvoted to this degree, given you said "Black men are the only group of men the left won't try to justify racism with" and "Imagine the left find a way to justify racism against black men on a large scale." I have never seen anyone on the left (in the general sense of "left") justify racism towards any group on the earth. Yet I have seen generalized homophobia among lefties exclusively targeting gay men and femme males. This comparison of 'jus… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/24 07:28 PM |
| 39 | Young Black men are dying by suicide at alarming ratesOff-topic but still kinda on topic here though. But Black men are the only group of men the left won't try to justify racism with. When it comes to attacking men for physical features or non physical features they can't change about themselves. I mean when it comes to body positivity and body shaming men. The left makes jokes about men having small dicks, making fun of men for being short or fat. This is ok because women are oppressed. And men are not oppressed. Even gay men are not safe from th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/24 06:19 AM |
| 9 | Why do so unbelievably few bisexual male porn?And the funny thing is that your preference is based on something physical or tangible like height or something. While their preferences aren't even physical or visible. They can't know if a man is straight or bisexual. Unless they are ironically perpetuating stereotypes about bisexual men being feminine or untraditional masculine. Which would still be wrong too. Unlike having different hobbies or political/religious views. A man bisexuality won't have that much of an effect on the relationship … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 27/03/24 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Why do so unbelievably few bisexual male porn?Exactly this is a great point. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 27/03/24 01:00 PM |
| 89 | Queer spaces are filled with man-hate, bi women most affectedBut the thing is so many of them didn’t think for a second about what this might be like for men as a group, especially queer men. A lot of this stuff is said by bi women, who vastly out number bi men, so you can imagine how unwelcoming it is for many bi men, who already have to deal with general homophobia, to hear about how bad attraction to men is; it’s like a double whammy of misandry and homophobia. Of course it’s not just bad for bi men; I’ve seen this type of rhetoric come up towards gay … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/24 04:14 AM |
| 22 | Why do so unbelievably few bisexual male porn?This is another example of society still putting pressure on men to be traditional. And this stigma against bisexual men is no different. Men are still judged or look down upon for not being tall, assertive, confident, providers, protectors, and also heterosexual too. Because men are viewed as more masculine for having these traits or qualities. Even in progressive/liberal places men are still judged for not living up to these "masculine standards". Hench why even a huge chunk of liberal/feminis… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 26/03/24 09:02 PM |
| 27 | Why do so unbelievably few bisexual male porn?It's funny how most Reddit subs lean more progressive and left wing. But it doesn't matter how popular the sub on Reddit is. If you ask this question about bisexual men. You see people copping pleas and screaming ''PREFERENCES" write on the top of the comments too. With many upvotes too. Say anything slightly unprogressive on Reddit. Your comment gets put at the bottom. And you get many downvotes. But when it comes to bisexual men it's universally accepted to get the ick for them all of a sudden… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 26/03/24 08:58 PM |
| 5 | I saw this stand up short and I think it represents one problem seen in feminist spaces: Not fully questioning gender norms.Male Kpop stars and femboys are proof that men can be beautiful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/24 03:15 AM |
| 11 | I saw this stand up short and I think it represents one problem seen in feminist spaces: Not fully questioning gender norms.It's a thing where people ask, "Do men even like women? "but I've been asking the reverse for a while When women makes these jokes. It's seen as ok. Because it's empowerment for straight or bi women to not show any sexual interest in men, despite that being the gender they are attracted to. This ironically reinforces slut shaming for women, because wanting sex with men is gross and icky. But I will let the feminists handle that. But when straight men do the same jokes. Even the most progressive … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/24 02:57 AM |
| 14 | I saw this stand up short and I think it represents one problem seen in feminist spaces: Not fully questioning gender norms.It's called benevolent sexism. Benevolent sexism is the one thing that connects conservatism and feminism together. Hence why a lot of feminists shared the same views with conservatives when it comes to sex work, trans women, or minority men in the most extreme cases. The idea that women still need protection despite being grown ass adults that can be these badass girl bosses. But at the same time they still need protection from the violent men in sex work, the violent trans women who born males… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/24 02:42 AM |
| 25 | I saw this stand up short and I think it represents one problem seen in feminist spaces: Not fully questioning gender norms.If you make fun of men for being "slobbish sex obsessed pigs" then you are just reinforcing how tradcons see men. If you make fun of men for being "weak feminine cowards" then you are again reinforcing old gender roles (not to mention that there are/were many societies where a man being weak/cowardly could be harshly punished). This part took the words right out of my mouth. In my antidotal experience from both real life and online. I usually see women criticizing male stereotypes for being horr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/24 02:32 AM |
| 34 | Who is men?When women make jokes about men's bodies or insult their masculinity: it's ok because women are oppressed and men are the oppressors. Women are just responding to the evil misogyny they had to endure from men for hundreds of years. When men make jokes about other men's bodies or insult their masculinity: This is normal because it's usually other men that are causing problems for men, this has nothing to do with women. Blame the men here. When women themselves make jokes about other women's bodie… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 25/03/24 08:24 AM |
| 45 | Police officer who slept with six co-workers claims she was 'sexually groomed'Grown ass adult being groomed. If the genders were reversed people would be roasting a man for saying that. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 25/03/24 08:14 AM |
| 24 | Criminalization, Culturalization; How Gender Is Used To Criminalize Men's Behavior"Ingrouped 'good men' are tasked with outgrouping 'bad men'. This can mean anything from lynchings, to war, murders, to tribalistic mentalities, to 'beating up that creepy guy', to prisons and policing, and so forth. Whereby both the targets and the those being tasked to do the things are men." This dam if you don't damned if you do in a nutshell. On twitter I saw a video about a man getting into a fight with a woman on the train. Despite a couple of men trying to resolve the situation. This was… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/24 01:45 PM |
| 94 | Has anyone noticed a lack of awareness for the male anatomy?In the media with movies and shows. There is a popular trope where male characters are portrayed as being idiots when it comes to female anatomy. This trope is similar to the dumb dad trope. Where the male characters are dumbfounded when they find out simple facts about the female anatomy. It's like they portray the male characters as thinking women are a different species or something. It's like they assume men are the only gender that doesn't know the anatomy of the opposite sex. Because they … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/24 06:11 AM |
| 3 | "What Do We Need Men For?"True They view bi men as less masculine. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/24 01:48 PM |
| 12 | Is It Really a "Man's World?"Some of these feminists don't even realize they live more privileged lives than men. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 19/03/24 06:14 AM |
| 30 | "What Do We Need Men For?"Can you imagine if more attractive men became MGTOW. The only reasons most feminists are saying "yeah go your own way buddy and stop complaining about women, we don't care, that would be good for women anyway". It is because they probably already view most MGTOW men as undesirable incels anyway. But their reaction would be different if more attractive men were becoming MGTOW in bigger numbers though. In this case MGTOW is like sex bots or male sex toys. Some people think only losers and incels w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/24 01:12 PM |
| 19 | “Ugh men”So female serial killers don't exist then. Wait till she sees that female cartel members are just as worse as their male counterparts. When it comes to doing all sorts of weird things to unalived bodies. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/03/24 12:25 AM |
| 8 | TV's Portrayal of MenI like to get my point across as much as possible lol. 😂😂 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 04:07 AM |
| 14 | TV's Portrayal of MenSince I was young, I have watched serials and as a teen, sitcoms such as friends, modern family etc. However, I have almost always seen these TV shows portray men as these lusty creatures whose only purpose in life is having sex. There was this one scene in modern family when two boys were dating girls who they didn't like. One of them was called dumb and started speaking out against the objectification of himself. The girl in return, said that they'll make out with them at their house. 3: Lust.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 03:45 AM |
| 9 | Ah yes who can forget that whole men first during the titanic disasterWomen are still considered a protected class in most cases. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/03/24 03:37 AM |
| 5 | 'Can't your husband/boyfriend cook for himself?' Does anyone else notice the uptick in aggressiveness toward wives/girlfriends for just doing something nice for their partner?I'm just being ironic here by taking a page out of their book. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/24 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Would you consider that "Toxic Feminism" as "Feminism as Patriarchal Proxy"? I wanted to share my thoughts, why I feel it that way.Thx. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/24 03:53 AM |
| 14 | 'Can't your husband/boyfriend cook for himself?' Does anyone else notice the uptick in aggressiveness toward wives/girlfriends for just doing something nice for their partner?Yep it's just male gender role with a progressive/female gaze twist sometimes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/24 02:50 AM |
| 47 | 'Can't your husband/boyfriend cook for himself?' Does anyone else notice the uptick in aggressiveness toward wives/girlfriends for just doing something nice for their partner?I won't be surprised if the same women in these relationships still expect the men to fix broken things in the house, fix their cars, cut the grass, and still take out the trash. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/24 01:06 AM |
| 39 | 'Can't your husband/boyfriend cook for himself?' Does anyone else notice the uptick in aggressiveness toward wives/girlfriends for just doing something nice for their partner?It's the women are the prize narrative. This narrative is even pushed by some feminists and a lot of progressive people too. So many women were complaining about the Simone Biles approaching her husband first. Saying how this makes her look desperate. And also saying her husband is downplaying her accomplishments by calling himself the prize. Because he is less successful than Simon Biles. And of course they use the typical progressive perpetuation of homophobia and toxic masculinity (women are … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/24 01:05 AM |
| 12 | Is a large component of the male loneliness epidemic the general feeling of being undesirable?Man I feel them. I wouldn't go too lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/24 02:45 PM |
| 48 | Is a large component of the male loneliness epidemic the general feeling of being undesirable?I think a huge solution here is that men shouldn't base their self worth as a man or masculinity on validation from society. And just focus on themselves. And their own ways to make themselves happy without trying to pretend to be someone else in order for them to get the bare minimum. Feminism is always preaching about self care to women. But when it comes to men. Everybody from feminists, conservatives, the red pill, and in between perpetuate this issue of men basing the self worth on what oth… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/24 01:49 PM |
| 2 | “Men hate feminism because they hate women”Hypersexul as in men never turning down sex from women and perpetuating the idea of women being the symbol of beauty or desire. Not necessarily men being creeps or dogs here. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 12/03/24 04:25 PM |
| 23 | Comments proving mens pointI suppose for TwoX any perspective is less than 99% similar to theirs is inceldom. Bingo. You can be too nice to men. And talk about male issues. You can't do that at all. Because men are privileged and have no issues at all. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 12/03/24 03:51 PM |
| 2 | “Men hate feminism because they hate women”And the thing is most of the Feminists aren't even indifferent to male gender roles. They actually prefer to live in a society where men still follow their gender roles. The thing about toxic masculinity is. That women only care about the stuff that negatively affects them for the most part. Feminists still like it when men are chivalrous, confident, competitive, ambiguous, assertive, hyper sexual, tall, muscular, providers, and protectors. All this is fine as long as the men aren't misogynistic… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 12/03/24 12:58 PM |
| 4 | Why is male-bashing so common and widely accepted?And also it doesn't help misandry have more of an effect on men on a systemic level or social level, definitely not am individual level. That's BS. For example, gay men compared to gay women. Since gay men are more stigmatized and face more violent/disrespectful homophobia. Even straight men are somewhat affected by this too. They are called gay or the f slur if they reject a woman. It's a common popular belief to think most misogynistic men are "closeted gay men", because they hate women. There… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 12/03/24 12:45 PM |
| 19 | Would you consider that "Toxic Feminism" as "Feminism as Patriarchal Proxy"? I wanted to share my thoughts, why I feel it that way.It's the paradox of feminism where they perpetuate benevolent sexism. In a progressive society where women can have opinions, jobs, careers, and even be more successful than men. They only care about getting rid of gender roles for women, not for men. They care about women being girl bosses like CEOs, or having accomplishments in society. But they still don't want women to do hard or dirty jobs. They won't push for that. Because they still expect men to do these jobs. And I hate to say this, bec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/03/24 01:25 AM |
| 23 | Would you consider that "Toxic Feminism" as "Feminism as Patriarchal Proxy"? I wanted to share my thoughts, why I feel it that way.this subreddit is interesting, and way more nicer, non toxic, better than, r/MensLib and r/MensRights. Honestly I see both subs as different sides of the same coin. You all are oppressor, women have been suffering. You all just listen to woman, don't hurt them." [Mens are forced to hide their pain, they just s\ck it up]* This is something that pissed me off a lot with some women. Women and feminists say it's not their job to care about men issues or fix men issues. But yet they still expect men … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/03/24 01:06 AM |
| 25 | Is Misandry Real?One can argue that misandry can play a huge role in black men being victims of police brutality or being viewed as more violent. There is even a small subset of black women online called Divesters that use the slur "bullet bags" to describe black men being killed by the police. And they find that funny. So despite their lack of empathy, even those women know that police brutality affects men more. (https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLRGh1h6/) Even when it comes to homophobia. Misandry can play a role to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/24 06:58 AM |
| 4 | I think some women confused indifference with misogyny.In plenty situations it's usually feminists saying they won't help men. Because we are grown as men who should be able to do things on our own. But then get mad when men direct that sand energy toward them lol. You can't expect men to give women princess treatment. When society can't barely do the bare minimum for men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/24 03:29 AM |
| 3 | I think some women confused indifference with misogyny.I don't know when this happens. But at some point feminism and conservatism had this weird overlap when it came to benevolent sexism. Since this is the only time where both sides agree on, outside sex work and porn. And even then sex work can be a part of benevolent sexism. Because both think women don't have enough agency to choose sex work anyway. But I don't remember it always being like this though. I hate to sound like a 23 year old boomer here. But I think my generation is kind of soft lol… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/24 03:17 AM |
| 19 | I think some women confused indifference with misogyny.They say they don’t need men, but then will try to shame men for not following traditional gender roles when it doesn’t benefit them. Bingo. Your comment just reminded me of something else here. I always find it cringe when I see liberal/left leaning women and feminists praise men for following traditional gender roles. If this was traditional women doing this, that would be one thing. I'm not saying it's ok when traditional women do that, it's bad for them too. I'm just saying it's more underst… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/24 12:27 PM |
| 3 | I think some women confused indifference with misogyny.Me too lol | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/24 02:40 AM |
| 15 | I think some women confused indifference with misogyny.Great point about the internalized misandry being a huge issue for the men part. So a post about a Comedian saying how the worst problem a man can have is wifi, while only women worry about rape. And I also like the idea of your 2-3 fractions for men. I have something similar to this too. I split them into 3 categories. Red pill men, tradcons, and male feminists. My categories are very similar to your categories. With a little bit more overlap between the red pill and tradcons. To be honest here… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/24 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Daniel Sloss comic “women’s biggest fear is not getting raped, mine is wi-fi”Funny thing is this is the same people who want to virtua signal about POC men, when it comes to racism against black and brown men. So which is it? Do men have issues? Or do men not have to worry about issues? Again which is it? I'm not specifically asking you this OP lol. Just a general question here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/24 08:11 PM |
| 6 | Daniel Sloss comic “women’s biggest fear is not getting raped, mine is wi-fi”In other words they don't consider smaller men "real men" ironically. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/24 08:06 PM |
| 26 | Yougov survey indicates men are more supportive of sex-workers...I could be wrong here. But I think a huge part of this is that there is a huge chunk of men who aren't very vocal about their views on women's bodies and sexuality. And the misogynist men are a loud minority always pushing against this. While the male feminists are also the other loud minority supporting this. The only difference is that these men try to make themselves special by saying "they are not like the other girls (boys in this case)" in order to get brownie points and validation from wo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/02/24 12:23 PM |
| 2 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badYeah this is why I think it's bs whenever they say it's not women's job to fix or care about men's issues. But yet they still think it should be the natural default for men to care about women issues and be allies. Again they just love having it both ways lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/02/24 08:53 AM |
| 2 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badThe bare minimum for me is them even admitting men having issues in the first place. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/02/24 08:41 AM |
| 1 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badThis is very true. I like that post too. Sounds like a good take. The thing is they can't just focus on women issues too. They must have to somewhat perpetuate men issues through their gender roles, so it can be beneficial for women. I would rather them just focus on women issues. Instead asking for men to self sacrifice. They want to have their cake and eat it too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/02/24 08:30 AM |
| 3 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badIt's because they fail to acknowledge (some almost deliberately) that while men can also be hurt by patriarchy, women can also benefit from it. Sorry if this comes as a little bit off topic here. But your reply actually spark a thought in my mind here. The funny thing is they say a Matriarchy would be better. Like the Barbie movie where women are in the position of power. But what they fail to (or also even successfully) realise is that a Matriarchy would just be the opposite of a patriarchy. So… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/02/24 07:51 AM |
| 32 | "You have to answer for men's bad behavior.""You have to answer for men's bad behavior." This type of thinking is dumb. It is like saying neurotypical people are more likely to commit crimes against autistic people. Therefore you have to answer for neurotypical people's bad behavior. So its 100 percent justifiable and understandable for autistic people to try their best to avoid neurotypical strangers in public. Because they don't know who the good guys or bad guys are. Notice how you would never hear somebody use this example lol. Or bet… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/24 12:37 AM |
| 11 | So are you guys familiar with the ways Feminists remove agency from women?Totally agree here And the funny thing is the right solution is to not compliment women or say nothing to women at all. But you still get in trouble for not even interacting with women too LMAO. I heard so many stories about women complaining about men not talking to them in the workplace or approaching them in public. Heck I have gotten in trouble for this in real life. Dam if you, damned if you don't. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/24 08:54 AM |
| 5 | So are you guys familiar with the ways Feminists remove agency from women?Great comment. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/24 08:48 AM |
| 10 | So are you guys familiar with the ways Feminists remove agency from women?“You shouldn’t call them cute because you’re discounting their skills” “Cute implied that you think they’re lesser than you” “Women don’t like compliments on appearance but they won’t tell you because they were raised to take compliments” I mean I agree with all of this lol. 😂😂 it all depends on how the individual woman feels about being called cute though. If she is fine with it, nobody should be white knighting for her. But if she doesn't like it, then she has every right to express her bounda… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/24 08:43 AM |
| 7 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badVery true here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/24 12:33 PM |
| 34 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badI think there are two reasons why this happens. Reason 1 deep down inside they are subconsciously homophobic towards gay men or bisexual men. And reason 2 men are expected to be the chivalrous gender. Meaning they must always be nice to women, open doors for women, and think women are always right. So a man going against this chivalrous expectation might get his masculinity question or call gay in this case. You never see this happen with women who hate men. Because women are not the gender that… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/24 12:24 PM |
| 8 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badYo I comment before seeing your reply here. And I'm still not surprised as to why they were being homophobic. 😂😂 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/24 12:12 PM |
| 63 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badAre you talking about the same mod in OP post. I remember someone on the sub saying how incels or men who hate women should date other men instead of dating women. Since they are always complaining about women. And I say that is homophobic. Then the mod replies and says how is that homophobic to tell men to do that instead IIRC. I said this is no different from a man saying a woman should be a lesbian instead after seeing a "men are trash" post. Since women are also complaining about men too. Th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/24 12:11 PM |
| 11 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badI'm not even clicking on that link. 😂😂 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/24 12:01 PM |
| 24 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badKind off topic to your comment here. But this reminds me of how some Feminists react to Bell Hooks. There are a portion of Feminists who think Bell Hooks is too soft on men. Oh boy it would be a red flag If I saw a Feminist say that lol. There was a YouTuber called Khadija Mbowe who was told she was being too soft on men too, specially in her comment section.. Now it's not like I'm a huge fan of Bell Hooks or Khadija Mbowe. I just find it crazy that some Feminists would still have an issue with … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/24 11:46 AM |
| 45 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badI find the "to the oppressor equality feels like oppression" thing hilarious. Because the average man doesn't benefit that much from the patriarchy. And on top of that if these same men have liberal views like us on this sub or they are just simply not misogynistic. And they support certain ideas about Feminism. For example, thinking of women should be equal. Then they would have more reasons to not care about the dumb benefits from the patriarchy. What's the best thing men are going to want out… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/24 11:33 AM |
| 8 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badI think she is just being ironic or something. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/24 11:23 AM |
| 46 | “Why don’t men build their own resources?”Took the words right out of my mouth. This is why I always roll my eyes when I hear feminsits say that. Not because I disagree. It's because they would still get mad at men for focusing on themselves, and not providing for women. A lot of men would rather fund feminist organizations not masculist counterparts. It's actually expected for men to be allies of feminism. You are either on their side or the oppressor side. This is why I also roll my eyes whenever some feminists say men shouldn't be fe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/24 05:21 PM |
| 3 | Serious Theory: the Right has always had its own "feminism", and this may have contributed to a serious problem within the movement100 percent agree here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/24 11:01 AM |
| 8 | Serious Theory: the Right has always had its own "feminism", and this may have contributed to a serious problem within the movementI agree. People can say what they want about the feminists who get mad at men for opening doors for them or being nice to them. They can call these feminists radicals or assholes all they want. But I will always respect feminists like that. Because they are consistent. And they don't want to be treated like kids. And want to be treated the same way as men. It's those "I want the best of both worlds" feminists that are the issue here. They cheery pick aspects of the patriarchy and masculinity the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/24 09:00 AM |
| 26 | Serious Theory: the Right has always had its own "feminism", and this may have contributed to a serious problem within the movementTo elaborate: feminists would criticise the patriarchy but would still enjoy its benefits. Feminists and women in general can enjoy the benefits of the doubt in many areas, while the status held towards dude would remain the same (ex. Sexual harassment). 👇 Ok, I think we can all agree that feminism is quite flawed..., especially when it comes to men's issues. It often becomes downright hypocritical in this regard. And the hilarious thing about the hypocrisy here. Is that the same feminsits tell … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/24 08:52 AM |
| 15 | 71% of UK men have experienced some form of sexual victimization by a womanSadly me too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/02/24 11:43 PM |
| 34 | Insecurity in men is largely considered a moral failingWhen I would point out that this is not equality, they'd claim it was fine because "women are still below men as a whole". This is just BS. They are making up an excuse for men to still follow traditional gender roles. Because also when it's convenient for them. They talk about how women are above men. More successful in school and certain careers. And this is empowerment for them. But when it's convenient for them to be the victim or child with no agency. Now all of a sudden women are below men… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/24 09:38 PM |
| 6 | What is happening to this sub?Fair enough. I can see this being the case too. Even I can be mistaken for wanting both genders to suffer equally lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/24 11:33 PM |
| 20 | What is happening to this sub?I agree with women having the right to do what they want with their bodies. I guess we have to be careful with conservative influence on this sub. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/24 09:50 PM |
| 32 | Anthony Albanese calls for men to 'take responsibility' for Australia's epidemic of violence against womenThen they turn around and lie and say they never wanted men to do violence because it's toxic masculinity. Similar to how Jada and other women never wanted Will to slap Chris Rock over a joke. But they still expect men to have this over protective attitude for women. So it's a dam if you do damned if you don't type of situation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/24 10:53 PM |
| 6 | On a serious note: Can we talk about how men of color aren't allowed to be vanilla or "squares"?And there is the hypersexuality and playboy stereotype force on men of color too. Always expecting men of color to be terminally horny or constantly pursuing women. As a young man of color, I remember a situation where a lot of people viewed me as weird or odd because I didn't know what this cringe word rizz meant. Rizz is a term for having game, where men use cheesy lines to pick up women basically. I have a lot of experiences like this, where people question my sexuality. Just because I don't … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/24 07:27 PM |
| 1 | People go about separating feminists and traditional women from each other in a very disingenuous way. And this is harmful for male issues.Both groups believe that men are obligated to put themselves in danger and potentially sacrifice their lives if a women is at risk. Both think that women’s comfort should be prioritized over men’s, and both thus think that men should avoid talking about serious issues they’re going through if it has a risk of making a woman uncomfortable. Both subscribe to traditionalist views of women being pure but naive and men being powerful but immoral, even if they frame these views differently. Ultimately… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/24 10:45 AM |
| 2 | People go about separating feminists and traditional women from each other in a very disingenuous way. And this is harmful for male issues.I know I was more focused on the social gender expectations and hypocrisy in this post. Since either way this just proves that traditional women never follow their gender roles. And history showing the opposite just strengthens this point. That's why I said there was never such a thing called "traditional woman" in the post. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/24 07:11 PM |
| 3 | People go about separating feminists and traditional women from each other in a very disingenuous way. And this is harmful for male issues.That's the point. For some reason some people ignore this point when it's convenient. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/24 07:06 PM |
| -2 | Baggage Claims makes a video on how Feminism broke our SocietyI 100 percent agree here. There are so many things wrong with this video and this whole channel. Feminism isn't ruining society. Toxic gender expectations for men are ruining society. Even if feminists are doing harm or causing issues for men. Some feminists are probably just perpetuating the same toxic gender expectations for men. And ironically going against the idea of feminism when it comes to equality. So at worst feminists are only guilty of being hypocrites. But I wouldn't say the concept… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/24 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Gen Z men are leaning more conservative while Gen Z women are much more liberalWhy was this comment downvoted? It's good. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/24 06:01 AM |
| 3 | Does it annoy anybody else how those speaking up for male issues are often really conservative?Exactly they are the main ones so quick to believe the worst in men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/24 06:27 AM |
| 9 | Is benevolent racism a thing?It's called the bigotry of low expectations or white savior complex. And when it comes to benevolent homophobia. It is assuming all gay men are naturally feminine. And thinking that's a good thing because that stereotype makes gay men less threatening to women. But in reality they just view gay men as "weak". (I.E. straight women and bisexual women not wanting to date bisexual men, because they view bi men as less masculine or not "real men") | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/24 10:15 PM |
| -1 | Does it annoy anybody else how those speaking up for male issues are often really conservative?I never say you were. I was just adding to the conversation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/24 07:41 AM |
| 17 | Does it annoy anybody else how those speaking up for male issues are often really conservative?Either it's fully demonized or put on a pedestal and I just want somewhere where I feel like there aren't ridiculous expectations of two opposites put on me I'm going to repeat this again. The right = Toxic Masculinity. The left = "Positive Masculinity" Both are two sides of the same coin. And both do nothing good for male issues. And the funny thing is masculinity is demonized and put on a pedestal at the same time on both sides separately too lol. Whether it's feminists saying how bad toxic ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/24 07:40 AM |
| -22 | Does it annoy anybody else how those speaking up for male issues are often really conservative?The right = Toxic Masculinity. The left = "Positive Masculinity" Both are two sides of the same coin. And both do nothing good for male issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/24 07:26 AM |
| -2 | Does it annoy anybody else how those speaking up for male issues are often really conservative?Yeah and the sad thing is they only bring up male issues to fight feminists. They don't genuinely care about male issues. Only when it is convenient to gain a fanbase. Most of the time they are the ones perpetuating male issues or enforcing male issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/24 07:25 AM |
| 10 | Intersectionality is not coming to save men.I'll add that while most feminists are very vocal in their condemnation of TERFs. When it comes to implementing change there's almost always a TERF somewhere along the way that's going to make sure that this change is there to benefit women, and not men who identify as women. Because when there isn't there's always some guy who's going to identify as a woman to gain the benefits and a few non-TERF feminists will suddenly become self aware enough to recognize that this was never the goal. And the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/24 09:19 PM |
| 15 | Intersectionality is not coming to save men.Yes they just use intersectionality as a way to show how women have it worse than men. Especially when it comes to poor women and poor men. Saying that the poor men still have male privilege and power over the poor women. Or even when it comes to gay men and gay women. They would probably still think gay women or bisexual women have it worse. Despite gay men and bisexual men still having a huge stigma associated with them in society, that is obviously different from some LGBTQ women. If intersec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/24 08:11 PM |
| 12 | Gen Z men are leaning more conservative while Gen Z women are much more liberalDon't forget about them using gay as an insult. And basically being homophobic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/24 11:07 PM |
| 5 | Gen Z men are leaning more conservative while Gen Z women are much more liberalTrue | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/24 09:59 PM |
| 8 | The "Nice guy" and how it evolved from the will Smith incidentGreat post. Very good analysis here. If you want to find out what the average misandrist would do in relation to masculinity.. look at what Andrew Tate would do, it works everytime — it's a variation of this idea that progressivism when it comes to men's issues turn conservatives as fast as flash a pretol-soused person runs away from fire. I find this hilarious. Because during that fake situation where a woman was hit with a brick. Both red pillers like Andrew Tate and anti red pill progressive … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/24 08:39 PM |
| 16 | Gen Z men are leaning more conservative while Gen Z women are much more liberalHopefully in the future many feminists see this weakness. And at least be honest with their contradictory views. https://youtu.be/XlipTAynX6k?si=H4s0cRE83Wsk0p-i | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/24 05:38 PM |
| 70 | Gen Z men are leaning more conservative while Gen Z women are much more liberalStill expecting men to protect women in dangerous situations like fighting aggressive cat callers or in times of war. Even feminists themselves would use words like cowards or the p word to describe men that have fear in these types of situations. Still expecting men to be the providers. Even the most successful girl bosses still expect men to make more money than them. Because they still view men as superior to them. Still expecting men to be confident. Whether this is men approaching women or … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/24 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Even when men don't interact with women. Men are still considered bad guys for not interacting with women. But this shouldn't be a bad thing though.Oh gotcha read your comment wrong. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/24 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Even when men don't interact with women. Men are still considered bad guys for not interacting with women. But this shouldn't be a bad thing though.Yeah I agree, I think cold is approaching bad. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/24 04:14 PM |
| 95 | Gen Z men are leaning more conservative while Gen Z women are much more liberalOr they are only liberal when it comes to women. But are still socially conservative when it comes to men and traditional gender roles. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/24 04:12 PM |
| 65 | The "Men need women more than women need men" trope is a strange oneWhen it comes to cooking and cleaning or taking care of kids. Women would say how men need and depend on women for those things. And how women are better at those tasks. Saying how men can't take care of themselves, they will burn the house down if they leave for a vacation. Or leave the house dirty and not feed the kids. And then it gets paradoxical real quick. Then the same women or same feminists would complain about men weaponizing incompetence. And they say how men pretend to not know how t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/24 09:02 AM |
| 16 | Tired Of The "Men Do It More" BS100 percent agree I was just adding more on your point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 08:50 AM |
| 70 | Tired Of The "Men Do It More" BSThe interesting thing is you can bring up any crime women do more. And they won't use that as way downplay the men who commit the same crimes at a lower rate. I understand focusing on the group that is commuting the most crime. But it's foolish to not treat the victim of any crime equally, just because the perpetrator comes from a group that does it more. But misandrists of course don't want that and deliberately to ignore and minimalize male victims of any sort of female violence. They always l… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 08:38 AM |
| 21 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?A man's job is to not make women feel uncomfortable. It's not a man's job to make women feel comfortable. If that makes sense. For example, it's a man's job to not violate a woman's boundaries. But it's also not a man's job to be a women's personal bodyguard. My job here is not to be a hero of a woman. I just don't have to be a villain towards a woman. That's it, it's that simple lol. I'm not crossing the street at night to make you feel comfortable, because I'm not going to make you feel uncomf… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys also get mixed reactions from women in real life, when talking about your views on gender-based topics?Is that true? I never knew that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 06:16 PM |
| 27 | Male feminism is a great extent just re-packaged chivalry.This is basically just what positive masculinity is. Repackage traditional masculinity. A man's masculinity identity still ends up being centered around women and what they can do for women benefits. This even goes to the territory of benevolent sexism. And treating women like they are helpless children. I'm about to go on a tangent here. Hopefully I stay on topic with your post though. The interesting thing here is that this repackaged form of masculinity and chivalry is only meant for straight… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/24 04:48 AM |
| 39 | I agree with the message of the post- I don’t agree with how it’s worded, or the comments.This is the classic "rules are for thee not for me" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/01/24 06:36 AM |
| 6 | Do you guys also get mixed reactions from women in real life, when talking about your views on gender-based topics?I always tell these types of men to go by a crappy halloween superhero suit on eBay, and be a vigilante by themselves. And their responses are usually priceless lol. It's funny both male feminists and tradcons believe in this alpha male strong man BS. But just like most forms of "brave masculinity" it's just a performance or facade. I remember a tradcon saying only betas think men should be equal to women and children in war, and say men should always protect the women and children. Then I told … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/01/24 07:13 PM |
| 28 | Do you guys also get mixed reactions from women in real life, when talking about your views on gender-based topics?Yeah it is like they expect men to stay in these two boxes. You are either a good guy or a bad guy to them. Even when it comes to something as simple and vague as masculinity. You still can't have a different opinion on what masculinity is. You either agree with positive masculinity (that's just traditional masculinity) or you are considered a man who is affected by toxic masculinity. At this point some feminists might rather have men uphold some toxic ideals, than men having some form of gender… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/01/24 10:14 AM |
| 14 | Could 2024 be the year that society realises that *both* misogyny and misandry exist?With black and white people racism is usually black and white (no pun instead). While with men and women, sexism is more complex. People think this black and white dynamic or frame work exists with all forms of oppression vs oppressor. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/24 09:02 PM |
| 8 | What is society's crippling obsession with friendless/single men? Why would such demographic live rent-free in most people's heads?Because society can't imagine a world where men aren't always pursuing women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/24 10:20 AM |
| 64 | Gypsy Rose Blanchard is one of the biggest examples of how the justice system is biased against men, and in favor of womenIt’s all just another example of how the justice system ultimately punishes men with more severity. Imagine if a man manipulated a woman with mental illness into killing his abusive mother, what kind of sentence would he face? Well just take a look at the Menendez brothers for the answer. Oh if the genders were reversed the man would definitely go to jail for murder. And the media will frame the woman as a helpless victim who was manipulated. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/24 10:19 AM |
| 19 | masculinity on the leftThis is what I called the paradoxical dilemma of feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/24 04:13 AM |
| 21 | Feminism isn't for everyone, it's just for women. People that say it is for everyone, are either naive or deliberately manipulative.This isn't even some well kept secret. Even some feminists themselves break the masquerade and take off the mask. And say feminism is not for men, it's for women. Whenever male issues are brought up. And say men have to fix their own issues. So this is coming out of their own mouths. Which is why I always find it hilarious whenever they say stuff like that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/24 07:42 PM |
| 2 | just treat women like human beings-what does that mean?Great comment | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/24 09:48 PM |
| 2 | just treat women like human beings-what does that mean?I agree. It is a catch 22, dammed of you do, and damned if you don't. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/24 08:06 PM |
| 55 | just treat women like human beings-what does that mean?(don’t know why they needed to specify straight). There is a good chance a lot of women don't view gay men or even bisexual men as "real men" capable of protecting them. Unless it's a group of gay male friends hanging out with them one night to scare off straight men. But a lot of women wouldn't think a bisexual boyfriend/husband would be capable of protecting them. I know this sounds stupid. But this just proves another way how even women themselves have rigid ideas of masculinity too. But your… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/24 10:57 AM |
| 98 | just treat women like human beings-what does that mean?I agree with that. Women should be treated like human beings. But a lot of feminists think women still need special treatment because of benevolent sexism. Last time I checked most humans aren't put on a pedestal, get the red carpet roll out for them every time, and most humans are treated like the default, just another number. Similar to the phrase "equality feels like oppression when you are so used to privilege". I would say the opposite now. Equality feels ordinary when you are so used to be… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/24 08:31 AM |
| 2 | A Ukrainian soldier covers a woman with his body when they hear the sound of an approaching Russian shellTrue | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/24 03:46 AM |
| 9 | A Ukrainian soldier covers a woman with his body when they hear the sound of an approaching Russian shellI agree. But only in a hypothetical about the extreme though. I think nobody should go to war. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/24 01:22 AM |
| 1 | When have women ever been the gender more expected to do emotional labor?Homophobic feminists are like: So you rather spend your night with a bunch of dudes, than your hot girlfriend. Gayyyyyyy. I'm serious here. These are legit reactions some women who identify as feminists have towards male friendship lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/24 07:06 PM |
| 10 | as a trans man, how do i fit into male advocacy?Totally agree. Can't say I have been a trans ally my whole life. But after seeing so many sad videos about trans men saying they were struggling with loneliness for the first time. I can see that these people are still socially viewed as men. Because trans men are men. So I will support them too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/01/24 10:17 PM |
| 3 | I can't with these peopleI agree. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/24 03:12 AM |
| 26 | I can't with these peopleThey can't understand that men's resentment goes far beyond sex. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/24 02:53 AM |
| 12 | You would think with how hard society negatively obsesses over incels, we could have actually stopped so much time, energy and resources from being wasted and instead invested into some sort of mental health campaign for them and romantically-struggling men in general, instead of scapegoating themAnd the funny thing is society knows there is pressure for men to be in relationships with women or attract women. This is why people use virgin and gay as an insult for men. Because they know those "insults" hurt men masculinity. Because men are expected to be players or Heartthrobs. Or expected to be confident, assertive, and especially hyper sexual. All of this is a part of traditional masculinity. That even enters toxic masculinity territory. (but they don't really care about this type of to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/24 09:11 PM |
| 61 | Your value shouldn’t depend only on what you provide to othersThe typical excuse is that men brought this on themselves, other men are the ones forcing men to do those things, or men created the patriarchy. To be honest I'm not even frustrated by people saying stuff like that. The thing that frustrates me the most is all the paradoxical views and all the contradictions coming from the same people saying stuff like that. Some feminists would talk different things from both sides of their mouths. Saying men created their issues. But they still expect men to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/24 02:38 AM |
| 24 | I think that "Male privilege" dosent exist1000 percent agree with you here. And also people think privilege automatically puts your life in easy mode. Some Western feminists have first world country privilege. They weren't born in a third world country where women and girls are oppressed and sex traffic. But that still doesn't change the fact that women in countries like the USA still face gender related issues. Like rights about their biology still being a challenge. So first world privilege isn't a huge benefit for most western women.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/23 10:58 AM |
| 2 | Positive masculinity would be so much better if it was actually focus on men.1000 percent agree | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/23 04:25 AM |
| 47 | "Feminism is only seen as Misandry because it puts men on the same ground as women"I have counters for each argument. (btw not necessarily arguing with you here, since I agree with you). “Misandry doesn’t exist” Yes it does. Misandry doesn't have to be systemic in order for it to be an issue. It can still be an issue. And even then Misandry can still be systemic. Do I need to mention the way schools treat boys. “Misandry hurts feelings, misogyny kills!” Misogyny also kills men too. Since benevolent sexism still somewhat benefits women, hence female privilege. Since society sti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/12/23 12:24 AM |
| 19 | "Men should open up about their problems and show more emotion" is disingenuous and downright awful advice.Remember now that some feminists (not all) don't necessarily have apathy towards men's issues. No it's worse lol. They actually benefit from men having these issues. Because most of the issues men have are related to gender roles like men being expected to be providers, protectors, stoic, rich, tall, and muscular. That's why they only want women to be liberated from their gender roles. It's not that they don't care about men's issues. It's the fact that they actually don't want men to find ways … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/12/23 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Positive masculinity would be so much better if it was actually focus on men.You are right here. But at least I think we can use the benevolent sexism to get a middle ground with feminists where we are all on the same page. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/12/23 09:19 AM |
| 3 | Double standard with regard to insecurityThis is a way better comment than the comment about Islam. I'm telling y'all right now extreme religious views are not the solution to men's issues lol. Not saying all Muslims or Christians are the same. But people with extreme/annoying religious views are very common though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/12/23 12:30 AM |
| 8 | Double standard with regard to insecurityPeople also link men's behaviour to insecurity almost immediately even when it isn't warranted, suggesting their behaviour is inappropriate Yep especially when they think a man is trying to compensate for "having a small dick" or "secretly being gay". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/12/23 12:28 AM |
| 5 | Double standard with regard to insecurityAlso it's funny that people always tell men to work on their insecurities before dating someone, but if you ever go outside, basically every woman is pretty overtly insecure even when you date them. Even women would probably benefit from being told to work on themselves too. Maybe instead of going the opposite in one direction with both genders. Maybe both genders can benefit from a mixture of self improvement, while still acknowledging systemic/structural issues in society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/12/23 12:26 AM |
| 12 | Double standard with regard to insecurityThis is one of those examples of feminists not actually caring about toxic masculinity affecting men. This is why I always look sideways at whenever a feminist says "the patriarchy hurts" men too. But the same feminists say it's up for men to fix their issues, not women. Because men created the patriarchy. I know this is pure BS whenever they say stuff like that. Because they know dam well it benefits them whenever they try to not have certain flaws with their masculinity. If they really didn't … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/12/23 12:20 AM |
| 8 | Positive masculinity would be so much better if it was actually focus on men.I 1000 percent agree with you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/23 10:57 AM |
| 15 | Positive masculinity would be so much better if it was actually focus on men.I see this too | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/23 04:08 AM |
| 25 | Positive masculinity would be so much better if it was actually focus on men.Very fair point here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/23 03:07 AM |
| 3 | Narcissists may engage in feminist activism to satisfy their grandiose tendencies, study suggestsSounds very interesting. How do you think a world would look like if more men became MGTOW? Like just replace the lonely men epidemic with a MGTOW epidemic instead. I don't even think men being MGTOW would be the main issue here. Sure maybe a part of the issue when it comes to some women still waiting attention from a large population of men. Matter of fact I think unavailable attractive men who are MGTOW would be a big issue in this alternative world too lol. Assuming these MGTOW men have a mor… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/23 09:22 PM |
| 12 | Narcissists may engage in feminist activism to satisfy their grandiose tendencies, study suggestsI don't need no man, to live my life they way I want to', she's considered progressive and strong, but if a man says the same thing about not needing women, he's either an incel, or simply sexist. We live in very strange times. I'm sure you can still find a lot of problematic individuals who are attracted to the idea of MGTOW. But I still think the idea of MGTOW is great though. People who are upset with just the idea of MGTOW. Meanwhile they wouldn't be upset if the opposite of the idea happene… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/23 09:00 PM |
| 10 | How do i respond to people who claim that domestic violence against women is more serious bec. It result in more death than the other way around?Oh I get a good one here. We shouldn't worry about police brutality when it comes to black women. Because it happens to black men more. Keep in mind the left is always saying black female victims of police brutality are usually ignored by the media. And the media only focuses on their black male counterparts. So the left doesn't really care about an issue being numerically less. They are basically using the same argument we make about male victims of DV and SA here. Just replace men with black w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/23 07:06 PM |
| 16 | Narcissists may engage in feminist activism to satisfy their grandiose tendencies, study suggestsSome male feminists are almost similar to red pillers or men in the manosphere in a way. Think about it both types men validation comes from what women think of them. Especially what women think of their manhood. This is very ironic lol. The only difference is that male feminist validation comes from performing "positive masculinity" and trying to come off as "nice guys" for women to like them or even praise them for being "one of the good ones" or "not like other boys". And the red pillers vali… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/23 06:55 PM |
| 3 | I find it very interesting that most people are universally okay with homophobia as long the target is a misogynistic man or a man they don't like.My god being a hypocrite should be a science at this point LMAO. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/23 11:34 PM |
| 5 | I find it very interesting that most people are universally okay with homophobia as long the target is a misogynistic man or a man they don't like.True. It sounds interesting that they preferred less masculine men after being abused. I would like to look into that more. Sounds like an interesting bit of information to know. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/23 08:43 PM |
| 11 | I find it very interesting that most people are universally okay with homophobia as long the target is a misogynistic man or a man they don't like.They don't even realize they are associating misogyny with gay men lol. But then again I do understand that homophobic insults still exist. But I do think that traditional masculinity plays a role here too. Traditional masculinity says that a real man is super nice to women. And we all know what happens when men don't live to up traditional standards. They are mocked by society. And then you combine traditional masculinity with male homophobia where a man being viewed as gay is seen as the oppos… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/23 08:41 PM |
| 7 | I find it very interesting that most people are universally okay with homophobia as long the target is a misogynistic man or a man they don't like.Great comment here. I'm sorry about what happened to you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/23 04:52 PM |
| 24 | I find it very interesting that most people are universally okay with homophobia as long the target is a misogynistic man or a man they don't like.If a woman makes a post saying all men are trash. And go to read the comments. Nobody is saying stuff like that. "wow you gotta be a lesbian" I'm not saying that doesn't happen. But I rarely see that. But if a man says something similar. People (especially women) say stuff like "if you like men just say that" "you can tell he has sugar in his tank" "if you hate women so much, just be gay then". Ask yourself this question. Why are women less likely to get their sexuality questioned compared to th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/23 04:50 PM |
| 21 | How the Left repackaged toxic masculinity and gender rolesThe thing is I can understand Christian women, conservative women, and traditional women being biphobic though. But biphobia is also coming from women who identify as feminists, liberals, or LGBTQ allies. Even bisexual women themselves are biphobic towards bisexual men lol. I have said this many times on this sub before. Hate to sound like a broken record. But this just shows us that society hasn't done a good job of dismantling the gender roles that negatively affect men. And have only focused … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/23 12:07 PM |
| 14 | How the Left repackaged toxic masculinity and gender rolesI have Christian sisters and a Christian mom who are like this too. They think being gay is a sin. But they would still invite a gay man over. My mom would cook for him. And my sister would do his hair. And they are nice to him and have conversations with him. Meanwhile, Mom says she would never accept a gay son. Even as a straight man who has no interest in being in relationships with women. My mom and sisters would still tease me and use gay as an insult by questioning my sexuality and manhood… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/23 12:01 PM |
| 22 | How the Left repackaged toxic masculinity and gender rolesExactly it's definitely familiar. As someone already said in this thread. And I replied and said PREACH. Right now we are in a weird position in society, where people want men to be one foot out the door when it comes to traditional masculinity. For example, demanding authority over women's bodies is bad. But a man who is chivalrous towards women should still be expected or at least neutral at best. Men aren't entitled to women's bodies. Yet women are still entitled to men protecting them throug… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/23 09:57 AM |
| 23 | How the Left repackaged toxic masculinity and gender rolesEssentially, it's a play with words as a result of cognitive dissonance: "traditional masculinity", where the male is the a-priori leader of a relationship is denounced. However, chivalry is also an integral part of old societies' definition of masculinity, but modern feminists still hold a strong desire for men to enroll part of their doctrines. This is very ironic: feminists expect men to stand up for and defend them, while at the same time those men ought to respect and acknowledge women's au… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/23 04:57 AM |
| 34 | How the Left repackaged toxic masculinity and gender rolesThe thing that constantly frustrates me the most is how the left says that homophobia is a part of toxic masculinity. And then some people on the left dare to use gay as an insult to misogynistic men or men they disagree with. Not only is this hypocritical. It also associates misogyny with gay men. Implying that the only way men can hate women or be mean to women is for them to be closeted gay men taking their repression out on women. Nobody talks about this. But using gay as an insult to men is… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/23 04:55 AM |
| 1 | "Violence against men is committed by other men". Ok, so what?Me too. That's good thinking right here lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/23 08:15 AM |
| -2 | Most men can usually fit into these three categories.Men putting other people's needs in front of themselves. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/23 03:52 AM |
| 0 | Most men can usually fit into these three categories.They are fantastic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/23 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Most men can usually fit into these three categories.I always thought of myself as a male feminist. but I took that to mean that I believe that gender roles are outdated. and that women are equal to men. but clearly, there are differences. but to use being a woman exclusively to disqualify someone from someone is wrong. it's the same as racism I agree with you. But I don't understand your point here. but if the reason you disqualify someone is because they aren't strong enough to do a job, and it's shown on a physical test, then it's fair to disqu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/23 01:32 AM |
| -5 | Most men can usually fit into these three categories.I mean it's very easy to group people in these categories. If your idea of masculinity is based on you viewing women as a type of child or small animal that needs help. Then there is not a lot of nuance here. We already know what male feminists are. We already know what conservative men are. We already know what red pill men are. And we already know what positive masculinity is. And we already know what traditional masculinity is. And we already know what toxic masculinity is. So it naturally ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/23 12:45 AM |
| 3 | Most men can usually fit into these three categories.That's why I say we need a new category for us in this post. A category that is all about seeing the nuances. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/23 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Tired Of The "Women And Children" NarrativeExactly | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/23 07:28 PM |
| 40 | Tired Of The "Women And Children" NarrativeSurprisingly feminists defend this narrative, (which is not surprising lol). By saying women are more vulnerable and get raped in high numbers. And they ironically use biology as an excuse by saying that men are stronger than women. So it's ok. They forget that men can also be vulnerable, and get raped at high numbers. And they also forget that not all men are born with the natural abilities to fight or use guns. And men can still get overpowered by bigger/stronger men or bigger armies of men. A… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/23 09:55 AM |
| 15 | "Men’s Rights Activists and other male extremists"Yeah pretty much. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/23 02:56 AM |
| 44 | "Men’s Rights Activists and other male extremists"I won't be surprised if his version of "positive masculinity" is just a repackaging of traditional masculinity only made to benefit women. And I'm being half serious and half funny here. But I have a very hot take here. If you come across a feminist who SURPRISINGLY doesn't have some type of vague or usual gender-abolishment view of masculinity, and wants to "define what masculinity is". Then that's an automatic red flag lol. I mean outside toxic masculinity and traditional masculinity. What oth… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/23 01:42 AM |
| 13 | When have women ever been the gender more expected to do emotional labor?Well then both genders are guilty of not doing enough, I'd say I agree. But if I wanted to be petty I'd say women don't really do that. How could they be when men are known for not sharing anything? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm confused about this emotional labor thing lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/12/23 09:01 PM |
| 12 | When have women ever been the gender more expected to do emotional labor?It is like trying to help with your partner's emotional health and mental health. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/12/23 08:57 PM |
| 34 | „The girls and the gays“They automatically associate gay men with femininity. I don't know if these people think masculine gay men just don't exist. Or think masculine gay men are just putting up a front to hide their true feminine nature. Which is it to them lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/11/23 02:46 AM |
| 60 | „The girls and the gays“Some people (even progressive women) don't view LGBTQ men as "real men". There is a reason why a lot of straight women and even bisexual women themselves won't date bisexual men. Regardless of whether these women are conservatives or feminists. There is still a universal opinion that society doesn't view LGBTQ men as "real men". But on the flip side though. I have some gay friends who are masculine-presenting men. And they always tell me that some women don't know what category to put them in ye… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/23 09:59 PM |
| 5 | "Never hit a woman."And then they strawman your point. And say this. "oH sO yOu WaNt WoMeN AnD cHiLdReN tO bE hUrT tOo" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/23 01:29 AM |
| 17 | "Never hit a woman."People think men can handle pain better. Or don't feel pain at all. This same dumb logic is the reason why people don't take men-on-men violence seriously too. Because people view men as superhumans/superheroes. Which is freaking dumb lol. This is off-topic to your post. But not really that off-topic though. But this type of thinking when it comes to neglecting violence being done to men, leads to dumb situations (or hypotheticals). Where men are expected to be able to fight off dangerous men to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/11/23 06:16 AM |
| 4 | Any leftist YouTubers that are male advocatesShe's great. She and Shoeonhead don't give pick-me vibes. And that's great because that shows they are genuine. Unlike other women who talk about male issues. Cough cough( just pearly things) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/11/23 12:01 AM |
| 1 | I'm I the only one who noticed some feminists do this odd thing where they want the best of 3 worlds?I'm a little late here. Didn't see your reply this whole time. You brought up some good points in your post. But..... . I promise you, feminists aren’t looking for some red pill concept of a ‘superior’ alpha male while chanting that women are better than men. You’re seeing contradictions because you’re taking three different ideologies and patching them together as if the same individual, a crazily cognitively dissonant woman is saying all three. You have to know that people are hypocritical som… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/11/23 06:57 AM |
| 6 | The "But men do it too" argument, and why it bothers me.I strongly agree here. Couldn't have said it better. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/11/23 06:21 AM |
| 26 | The "But men do it too" argument, and why it bothers me.Racial minorities are often incredibly racist (especially to other racial minorities) but they try to argue that they can't commit something they've so often been the victim of. This one doesn't make sense, because they are being racist to other racial minorities, (not even white people). So those racial minorities are also victims of oppression. And they are being racist. How can they not see that lol? I hope this comment doesn't seem like I'm attacking you here. I'm not attacking you. I'm just… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/11/23 06:11 AM |
| 35 | The "But men do it too" argument, and why it bothers me.Switch the genders, and say women do it too. They would be screaming THAT'S WHATABOUTISM. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/11/23 06:06 AM |
| 5 | When it comes to masculine men vs feminine men. Men are somehow still stuck in a box, even when people have good intentions with this.People like that are so annoying. Even when it comes to gender roles too. People act so surprised when they see men cook, or clean. They act like men doing things like a kid knowing how to brush their teeth for the first time. They say congratulations to men. This comes off as so condescending. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/11/23 09:13 AM |
| 3 | When it comes to masculine men vs feminine men. Men are somehow still stuck in a box, even when people have good intentions with this.I strongly agree with you here. This is why I'm becoming a gender-abolishment type of person every day. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/23 09:22 PM |
| 0 | When it comes to masculine men vs feminine men. Men are somehow still stuck in a box, even when people have good intentions with this.Isn't the Hugh Jackman in the blue shirt middle of the road? Jacked muscles would be one extreme and if he were wearing a dress it would be the other. I was using that picture to show toxic masculinity vs positive masculinity. Not necessarily for the ultra-masculine vs ultra-feminine point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/23 03:47 PM |
| 8 | When it comes to masculine men vs feminine men. Men are somehow still stuck in a box, even when people have good intentions with this.There would never be such a poster for men, because we all know that there's still only one way to be a man in the eyes of society. Facts | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/23 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Feminism expects men to bend over backwards for empathizing with womens issues while shitting on men, and is then is surprised men double down imto toxic spaces.Good point here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/23 07:47 AM |
| 20 | Feminism expects men to bend over backwards for empathizing with womens issues while shitting on men, and is then is surprised men double down imto toxic spaces.And it doesn't help that the same feminists still expect men to uphold certain gender roles. And disguise it as "positive masculinity" or "masculinity done right". Especially when it comes to men risking their lives to protect women from dangerous men. Even in that one cringe and preachy Gillette commercial. One man was still expected to bump into a guy who looked like he was about to approach a random woman on the streets. In real life that man would probably get beat up at best or killed at wo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/11/23 11:24 PM |
| 56 | Feminism expects men to bend over backwards for empathizing with womens issues while shitting on men, and is then is surprised men double down imto toxic spaces.That's because helping women is treated like the default or baseline. While helping men is treated like some type of weird alternative at best to people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/11/23 05:26 PM |
| 22 | You know what I'm talking aboutThis is just the "women are always right" trope | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/11/23 02:08 AM |
| 4 | A call to action. I think progressive MRA’s should refuse to engage with subs like r/ask feminists.I'm not defending Jonah Hill's boundaries here. If people think his boundaries are stupid. That's fine. I'm just saying the woman had free will to break up with him. It's like Jonah forced here to stay with him. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/23 02:52 AM |
| 10 | A call to action. I think progressive MRA’s should refuse to engage with subs like r/ask feminists.I saw this comment too. The analogy is so dumb. Because the analogy isn't even the right comparison or equivalent 😂. How did they go to pegging as a good analogy? A better analogy is a man who spends all day working in a warehouse. But his wife still expects him to have sex with her. Even after a hard day of work, he is super tired and just wants to sleep. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/23 12:28 AM |
| 19 | A call to action. I think progressive MRA’s should refuse to engage with subs like r/ask feminists.There are some reasonable takes and threads on there. But then you have posts and threads like this. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/s/pyY9UwNFUE Two things that are frustrating about this thread. 1: Men are expected to have sex too. So when they turn down sex from women they can get their sexuality and manhood question. Because again wanting sex is expected of men. So they would either be silent when the genders are reversed at best. Or not even bring up the reverse gender examples at all… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/23 09:52 PM |
| 6 | A call to action. I think progressive MRA’s should refuse to engage with subs like r/ask feminists.One time a whole thread was against her for having this one dating preference. She didn't want to date men who don't go out that much, because they are boring/lame or lack ambition IIRC. Sure nothing is wrong with her preference here. But just because someone isn't compatible with you. That doesn't automatically make them boring or a person with a meaningless life lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/23 09:33 PM |
| 5 | So, it happened, I got permabanned from menslib.I don't like how men's lib is becoming the opposite of MRA's nowadays. Seriously both are on the extreme sides of the spectrum. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/23 07:10 PM |
| 17 | "A real man is not afraid of being a feminist."A real man is Spongebob. Seriously I never saw a man love his job so much than this yellow guy here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/23 05:37 AM |
| 69 | "A real man is not afraid of being a feminist."This is the typical positive masculinity cringe that is just traditional masculinity under disguise. The same feminists would shame men for not risking their lives to save women in a dangerous situation where the woman is being attacked. They will call men cowards for not getting involved. While praising the men who get involved as "real men". Those same "real men" who can easily get killed like anyone else. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/23 05:12 AM |
| 22 | I am tired of people shaming androphiles for liking menThat's so sad, and the whole women must be attracted to women narrative still somehow manages to be rooted in a fetish. Since society "loves" girl on girl. So these people don't realize they are perpetuating the same toxic ideas they claim to hate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/11/23 09:17 AM |
| 6 | I am tired of people shaming androphiles for liking menExactly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/11/23 08:12 AM |
| 12 | I am tired of people shaming androphiles for liking menYep, it's interesting. It's almost like these double standards are two sides of the same coin. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/11/23 07:12 AM |
| 59 | I am tired of people shaming androphiles for liking menThis type of BS also ironically plays into the slut shaming women have to deal with. And the homophobia bisexual men have to deal with too. Making it seem like having sex with men is some type of degrading thing that can happen to a woman or man. Hence men are turned off by women having a high body count. And women not wanting to date bisexual men. Both perpetuate the toxic idea of sex being something men should only do to virgin women, (not experienced women or other men). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/11/23 03:25 AM |
| 97 | How much misogyny is there in MRA communities?I like this sub. Because it's the perfect middle ground between men's rights and men's lib. Men's rights can be too conservative-leaning. While men's lib can be too feminist leaning sometimes. This sub healthily talks about men's issues without shitting on women and blaming women for men's issues. And also without shitting on other men too by being one of the "good ones", and trying to make masculinity (toxic masculinity or positive masculinity) a solution for all men's issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/11/23 02:42 AM |
| 5 | Can Women Be Sexist To Men?Fair enough | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/23 06:47 AM |
| 9 | Autism and "Incel" SensationalismmI'm not surprised. People just like to shit on men that are lone wolves. I say a lone wolf and not a lonely guy. Because I won't be surprised if most people that call "lonely" guys incels are just men that are lone wolf types who don't care about relationships in the first place. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/23 06:05 AM |
| 13 | Autism and "Incel" SensationalismmWhat these people fail to realize is that the number of nonincel men that have assaulted, raped, and kill women is way higher than the real incels that do these things every time there is a rare mass shooting with an individual with personal views ( since not all mass shooters are incels or have the same views) Women are more likely to be hurt or killed by a Chad. I'm not saying that to make a joke. These lonely men or incels are too busy being stuck in their mom's basements or apartments to be … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/23 04:04 AM |
| 19 | Can Women Be Sexist To Men?Of course. Every person who says "I hate men" represents hostile sexism towards men. Every person who says "You're a real man!" represents benevolent sexism towards men. I love that you mention that benevolent sexism can also affect men too. Because benevolent sexism is the basis of positive masculinity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/23 03:49 AM |
| 14 | Can Women Be Sexist To Men?These are the same type of people that are all about intersectionality. But the minute someone they deem as being from the privileged group. The concept of intersectionality automatically goes out the window. Then all of a sudden they would have no problem being bigoted towards white women, black men, gay/bisexual men, or trans women. Because it's justified enough because they are "more oppressed" than those groups. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/23 03:44 AM |
| -6 | Can Women Be Sexist To Men?Why is this getting downvoted? It's a good post. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/23 03:40 AM |
| 20 | Can Women Be Sexist To Men?Yes, this "I can't be sexiest or racist, because I lack power" is just excluded for people to be hateful lol. Even systemic issues shouldn't make it okay for you to be hateful toward people on an individual level | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/23 03:37 AM |
| 6 | What are your thoughts on gender roles?Bingo. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/23 06:14 PM |
| 16 | What are your thoughts on gender roles?Some feminists enforce gender roles via positive masculinity. Which is just traditional masculinity under a different name. Some feminists are still likely to have some form of benevolent sexism towards women. They think women need to be protected by men in both violent situations and social situations. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/23 06:14 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on gender roles?I hate them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/23 06:08 PM |
| 30 | I am new to this subreddit, but I am against double-standards too.Meanwhile the same people would hate the "when I started to hate my girlfriend" trend/jokes because it normalized abuse. But any form of abuse towards men is considered just a joke, not that serious, or women have it worse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/10/23 09:20 PM |
| 1 | "Violence against men is committed by other men". Ok, so what?This is something I talk about everyday lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/23 07:32 AM |
| 2 | "Violence against men is committed by other men". Ok, so what?You and r/Tardigrade_Disco brought up great points with knives, guns, and different strength levels. People get their idea of men fighting each other from Hollywood action movies, where the fights are back and forth and the winner has no scratches. But in reality, even the winner of the fight can still have serious injuries. There is a reason why Boxing and MMA have weight classes. Street fights are a whole different ballpark. And this isn't even counting possible extra factors like knives, guns… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/23 07:30 AM |
| 1 | "Violence against men is committed by other men". Ok, so what?There is danger in even driving. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/23 07:23 AM |
| 7 | Can we talk about the men in power who have small ego's that treat other men like shit?I agree these are problems too. And are obstacles for male issues too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/10/23 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Despite living in a "patriarchy", women are doing much better academically than men.Ok | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/10/23 08:36 AM |
| 24 | Ok i want to talk about this creator and this space no one knows or talks about and why i believe that black progressive spaces, and to some extent feminist spaces, have allowed forPeople even do the same with homophobia too. When it comes to shaming gay men and bisexual men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/10/23 07:05 PM |
| 6 | Despite living in a "patriarchy", women are doing much better academically than men."all gender roles. They use this definition to claim that "fighting patriarchy" means fighting all gender roles. Which is a lie since they don't fight gender roles that disadvantage men, only ones that disadvantage women.". They think men should break their gender roles. Because feminism is not about helping men, it's about helping women. So they say it's men's job to break their gender roles. Now this is fine. The only problem here is that some of them don't actually believe that. The funny thi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/10/23 07:02 PM |
| 20 | Despite living in a "patriarchy", women are doing much better academically than men.I 100 percent agree with this. It's almost like men have an "I'm not like other girls" type of thing going on lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/10/23 04:24 PM |
| 21 | Despite living in a "patriarchy", women are doing much better academically than men."As much as I dislike their animosity towards the male gender (many were men themselves who internalized the misandry)" The off-topic question here. Do you think internalized misandry can be a thing? Anyone feel free to answer this question too. I would say, that fathers who don't trust their daughters around boys because boys are pigs or dogs would have internalized misandry. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/10/23 04:16 PM |
| 5 | "NoT lIkE oThEr GiRlS": Circling the wagons of feminism.Fair point | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/23 08:49 PM |
| 44 | "NoT lIkE oThEr GiRlS": Circling the wagons of feminism.They actually considered it a great thing when a man "is not like other boys" lol. Meaning these men are male feminists that do what they want, but they still have a little bit of the traditional masculinity when it comes to providing for women, protecting women, and standing up for women. You know the typical "positive masculinity" type. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/23 08:22 AM |
| 30 | I keep hearing people say that "women and children" is a mythEven if it is a myth. It still doesn't change the fact that most people believe in this myth. Once society universally believes in something it can become true sometimes. We were programmed to always put women and children first. It doesn't matter if the belief is rooted in myth. It still doesn't change the fact that this "fake" belief has affected society in some shape or form. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/23 03:10 AM |
| 11 | Does The "Patriarchy" Truly Exist?I was about to make a comment. But you took the words out of my mouth and probably even said it better than I would ever say it. So I agree, the patriarchy doesn't improve the lives of the average man by a huge margin , even if male privilege did improve our lives. Again that wouldn't be a huge margin. We would still face issues in our daily lives. For example, sure people from third world countries have it worse than me. But that still doesn't change the fact that I struggle with waking up earl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/23 02:05 AM |
| 137 | "It's worse for women""Is it because of our "Homer Simpson" stereotype of men as simple-minded dummies? Is it because men express themselves (and complain) less? Or is it just because the grass is always greener on the other side?" All the above. They think men have it easier, because men are expected to put up with more shit. And also it's the apex fallacy at play here too. They think they are going to be 7 feet trillionaire alpha males with god level confidence as men. Of course im exaggerating here, but they think… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/23 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys think men as a group are the ones expected be do more better, compare to other privilege groups?Great reply here. And the bottom thing was funny 😂😂. Benevolent sexism is definitely something we should talk about more often on this sub. Because even though feminism and conservatism might be two completely different ideologies. But it seems like benevolent sexism is the bridge between the gap or interconnecting thread that connects both ideologies. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/10/23 08:25 AM |
| 12 | Do you guys think men as a group are the ones expected be do more better, compare to other privilege groups?Even gay men and bisexual men may face certain struggles too that their female counterparts don't usually face. Like acceptance. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/23 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys think men as a group are the ones expected be do more better, compare to other privilege groups?What do you mean? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/23 08:16 PM |
| 6 | An article published in a famous french newspaper about women mental load linked to the mental health of their male partners.I think there is a double standard when it comes to trauma dumping too. Even with negative emotions. It still seems like men get the shit end of the stick, just like when expressing positive or normal emotions. For example, if a woman brings up her negative experiences with men when it comes to SA on a first date. Her male date would write a imanasshole post on Reddit if he reacted negatively. The comments would say how he should be more empathic towards women issues and experiences. Despite SA … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/23 12:43 AM |
| 6 | The way people talk about the bare minimum for men and positive masculinity is very similar.Yeah it seems like sometimes people have this black and white view on men too (I.E. toxic masculinity and positive masculinity). To them men are either people who treat women like trash or people who put women on a pedestal. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/23 10:49 PM |
| 16 | The way people talk about the bare minimum for men and positive masculinity is very similar.Good point here. Another thing I realized is the bare minimum is never about society as a whole. When they talk about the bare minimum. They always talk about things their boyfriends or husbands do. Not things the average man would do. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/23 05:43 PM |
| 3 | Just saw a post on the Predaddit sub about a guy who is bemoaning not being able to escape being a father when the mother refuses an abortion. It bothers me that men get shredded to pieces for that thought while women receive support since it's "her choice".That's a fair point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/23 07:29 AM |
| 11 | Just saw a post on the Predaddit sub about a guy who is bemoaning not being able to escape being a father when the mother refuses an abortion. It bothers me that men get shredded to pieces for that thought while women receive support since it's "her choice".I agree with both of you guys on certain points. And I think the idea sounds good on paper. At some point we do need to put the attention on the child though. Wouldn't the child still need both parents. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/23 04:31 AM |
| 35 | Violence against men is often gender-based and we have to say itPeople just downplay men-on-men violence as random gang violence or random drunk bar fights. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/10/23 09:55 PM |
| 1 | I think men aren't expected to be neutral or indifferent towards women/feminist issues.Well, people can have different definitions of what a positive role model is lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/23 09:49 PM |
| 11 | I think men aren't expected to be neutral or indifferent towards women/feminist issues."Remember! Feminism is about dismantling "The Patriarchy" and breaking down Gender Roles.. For Women. If a woman is being pushed into a gender role: Mother, Caregiver, Teacher, etc.. then they will decry it as misogyny... If a man is being pushed into a gender role: Protector, Provider, Manual Labor, etc they will still expect these men to adhere to these gender roles because they benefit women." The thing that frustrates me the most here is that their response would usually be that it's up to m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/23 09:54 PM |
| 5 | Column: Should men pay on dates as reparations for the gender wage gap?Wouldn't reparations be better to help women as a collective rather than helping individuals on dates lol? I'm sure if a woman can get a job. Then she has enough money to pay for a date. If a woman don't, then maybe she should date a conservative man, or don't go on dates at all. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/23 02:05 AM |
| 8 | Column: Should men pay on dates as reparations for the gender wage gap?Did they forget about the girl boss narrative of women making more money than men to the point of outclassing or surpassing men? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/23 11:31 PM |
| 1 | What's with the Boy Math Jokes? Do they feel sexist?You do not understand my point here. I never said women are always the victim. I said women can't be victims in situations where there is no negative effect on their lives. Negative effects like violence and financial dependency. I chose the Jonah Hill situation because his girlfriend didn't have any negative effect on her life. Therefore I think she is not a victim. Because she wasn't abused or forced to do things she didn't want. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/23 10:34 AM |
| 12 | Is there some sort of MRA equivalent to "lipstick feminism" that of which a man can still embrace his masculine aura and drive while still being socially-aware of men's causes?This is why I'm a supporter of gender abolishment. Sure a lot of people on both sides would disagree with me here. But honestly, 90 percent of men's and women's problems are caused by rigid gender roles. And it doesn't matter how much we reconstruct these gender roles, (I.E. positive masculinity). We always end up having a problem with gender roles negatively affecting both men and women. I'm not saying a gender-abolishment society would be perfect by any means. I'm saying a gender-abolishment s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/23 07:09 PM |
| 2 | I'm I the only one who noticed some feminists do this odd thing where they want the best of 3 worlds?Great way to describe it. So morally Superior intellectually equal and physically inferior would be the big 3. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/23 06:57 PM |
| 39 | Dominate, but don't dominate. Do men often receive contradictory demands?"feminism => the one who asks the other out reality/women=> it is expected from men to initiate LOL So... See what I'm saying?" My favorite part is when they still expect men to be protectors and risk their life or livelihood for women, under a layer of men using their privilege to help women. Or when they think traits like confidence, ambition, and being a leader are exclusive to men under the layer of "positive masculinity". Despite them believing in gender abolishment and thinking gender role… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/23 11:10 PM |
| 31 | Dominate, but don't dominate. Do men often receive contradictory demands?This is almost like my feminism wants the best of 3 world posts. https://reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/s/vDVO250VYT Some women with feminist lite views can have contradictory demands. I would say there is nothing wrong with women or female feminists having a preference. I would be more likely to question the reason for their preference though. Liking a tall man is a cool preference. But liking a tall man because he is more masculine is definitely something that would need some explanation. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/23 10:59 PM |
| -1 | What's with the Boy Math Jokes? Do they feel sexist?No not really I think women are not the victims in situations where there is no violence or threats to their livelihood. This is why I think the Jonah Hill situation wasn't a big deal. Because she didn't have anything that could threaten her life or livelihood. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/23 11:15 AM |
| -1 | What's with the Boy Math Jokes? Do they feel sexist?"They do they also stay in bad relationships because they falsely think they can fix the man to their liking." Sure, this is something in the women's control though. She can change the way she thinks about fixing men. Compared to an abusive relationship where she is dependent on her partner to have a livelihood. There isn't a lot of change she can make here. She is trapped, unfortunately. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/23 10:12 AM |
| 0 | What's with the Boy Math Jokes? Do they feel sexist?It's not that I disagree with you here. These reasons you bring up actually prove my point. Because in a case where a woman has low self-esteem or lacks accomplishments. These are all issues a woman has the potential to fix. Because nobody is putting a gun to their head and telling them to stay in toxic relationships. Unlike an abusive relationship where women are usually meant with violence, threats of violence, or financial dependency on a partner. This is why I hated the Jonah Hill being an a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 10:42 PM |
| -14 | What's with the Boy Math Jokes? Do they feel sexist?The amount of "men are trash" posts or women talking about their bad experiences with men would kind of contradict the idea of women staying in bad relationships with bad men. Women usually stay in bad relationships out of fear. Fear of violence, fear of threats, and fear of losing Financial Security. Women don't stay in bad relationships because of love. This rhetoric kind of pushes the women are perfect/wonderful trope. Since this rhetoric is saying women are so morally superior to men, that t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 08:59 PM |
| 24 | I'm I the only one who noticed some feminists do this odd thing where they want the best of 3 worlds?Yeah in both narratives like women being better and women and men are equal. One narrative says women can be bad and hardcore enough to go into the workplace and dominate and scare all the insecure men. Because they are bosses who can do anything they put their minds to. But for some reason all of a sudden when their male co-workers make misogynistic jokes, they are not capable of standing up to their scary male co-workers and telling them to stop. So it's up to other men to hold the other male … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 07:30 PM |
| 2 | I think most men should stop talking about male issues on feminist subs.Facts. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/23 07:00 PM |
| 13 | My problem with anti-feminist females.Most of them are not that different from their manosphere/red-pill male counterparts. They are just doing it for the money, grift, and attention. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/23 01:13 PM |
| 0 | I think most men should stop talking about male issues on feminist subs.I disagree with this. Women aren't emotionally weak. In our modern society physicality is not needed for everything. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/23 08:23 AM |
| 7 | Is it just me or are men not allowed to be private with their relationships anymore? I will offer more naunce and context so people can get an idea of what I meanAnd also it's a gender stereotype for men to be flaunting their girlfriends like their trophies. To show their status and how alpha they are. And ironically enough even the most progressive people would call men gay or incels if they aren't in relationships. And perpetuate this toxic gender role for men. Hence single men usually are associated with closeted gay men or incels. Note there is nothing wrong with being gay. I'm just talking about the way people view men when it comes to gender roles … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/23 10:14 PM |
| 11 | The right-wing is harmful to men’s rights.This post is great. The right is a good way for some feminists to discredit legitimate male issues. Because the right are bad actors. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/23 08:42 PM |
| 2 | The expectation of men holding other men accountable and using their male privilege to help women plays a factor when it comes to hyper-agency for men.By not wrong, I mean I'm not trying to argue with them here. I'm doing the opposite by mentioning black people. Black men can't hold white women accountable because white men are the ones who cause their problems. But saying "White women can't hold black men accountable because white people were the means ones that caused their problems" wouldn't be a good argument to them. So I'm just pointing out hypocrisy here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/09/23 06:13 AM |
| 1 | The expectation of men holding other men accountable and using their male privilege to help women plays a factor when it comes to hyper-agency for men.It depends on the context. If a man is just venting about relationships and rigid gender roles, then it's fine I guessed. But if a man or woman is saying that in a hateful way. Then it's definitely not fine. But any form of generalization can be bad though. Regardless of venting or hate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/09/23 08:57 PM |
| 11 | The expectation of men holding other men accountable and using their male privilege to help women plays a factor when it comes to hyper-agency for men.Hmm, I wonder if it would be okay to say the same about other privileged groups. Like white people and straight people. To be honest I see more men are trash posts. I rarely see black people do this with white people. Or do gay people do this with straight people? Sure does this happen. But it seems way higher with men. But then again on the flip side, white people or straight people aren't expected to be protectors or heroes for black people or gay people. Sure there are allies. Heck, there is … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/09/23 06:24 PM |
| 1 | My wife is a feminist.What is the thing that interests you? You can have problems with any woman. Doesn't matter if that woman is a conservative, feminist, or both. Because people are always going to do their people stuff. And every relationship is going to have some type of issue. Even the perfect one. With all this being said, I'm more likely to date feminists, because they might be less likely to follow gender roles unless they have double standards for men. But I assume gender roles would be more expected in a tr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/09/23 02:32 AM |
| 38 | Why Men Can't Talk About Their StrugglesI remember seeing that thread. It seems like she is missing context. For example, she mentions men complaining about being labeled as creepy for existing, without explaining the context behind a situation where a man would feel this way. This is also a good question here. https://reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/s/7tf4Lxo88X | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/23 06:48 AM |
| 4 | “We need to protect women”I agree with everything In this post. We need to distance ourselves from right-wingers, red pillars, and the manosphere types. They only used men's issues as a way to discredit women's issues. They don't really care about men's issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/09/23 11:50 PM |
| 16 | today on r/TwoXChromosomes which — and I swear I'm not making this up — has rules against misandry and "tactless generalizations"I have an off-topic question here. Do you guys think the gender war is worse than the race war when it comes to social media specifically? Because I go on subs for black people and maybe a few subs for white people (there aren't white people subs, but you know what I mean lol). I rarely see any black vs white posts in those subs. Now I'm not saying this is rare, because it's not rare. But the race war on social media doesn't seem to be as prevalent as the gender war. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/09/23 05:45 PM |
| 2 | I don't understand how some people can think men being good people or even decent people is a rare or strange phenomenon.True | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/23 11:07 PM |
| 8 | I don't understand how some people can think men being good people or even decent people is a rare or strange phenomenon.This sums it up perfectly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/23 04:27 PM |
| -4 | Thoughts the whole protect women concept.I think an idiot was talking badly to her in the thread. Of course, I won't agree with that guy. But she will probably automatically put me in the same "incel" group with that guy anyway. Women like this usually fight fire with fire. In other words, fight toxic masculinity with more toxic masculinity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/23 09:54 PM |
| -3 | Thoughts the whole protect women concept.This is great. This is something I always say. Matter of fact I got shit for saying it's not a big deal if women rudely reject men because they can have any boundaries they want, and have the right to not want to chat with random strangers in public. People say this was unnecessary or bad. And give me downvotes for this and call me a troll. If it's good to teach men how to handle rejection. Then we should also teach men how to handle mean rejections too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/23 06:41 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts the whole protect women concept.That's great. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/23 08:02 AM |
| 7 | Thoughts the whole protect women concept.Sorry, that happened to you, man. I hope you recover from that well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/23 07:24 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts the whole protect women concept.I wouldn't go that far, to say women deserved no help at all. I just think right we should think about things the law can do to prevent issues like this in the first place. Instead of depending on random male bystanders. Trust me I do see black women saying they don't march for black men anymore. Saying they were home chilling when George Floyd marches were going. I'm black myself, I see this behavior from black women online too. But we shouldn't fight fire with fire here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/23 03:36 AM |
| 13 | When people say: "It's okay for a man to cry", what they unconsciously seek to add is: "so long as that man is not my Father, Brother, Son, Husband, or anyone remotely close to me."This is right. Usually, some women would make emotions all about them, not the man. For example, when a woman tells a man to show emotions, they mean emotions like showing love or happiness towards them in the forms of gifts and affection. On the flip side, some women would consider it trauma dumping or whinging, if men were to start complaining about their personal problems like work, bad childhood experiences, or gender role pressure. The only negative emotion men are allowed to show is grief … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/23 09:52 PM |
| 10 | Are “incels” bad?Yep, I remember that Trump and Putin meme too. Virgin shaming, prude shaming, and homophobia seem to be considered okay by people once it's done to men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/23 08:41 AM |
| 13 | Are “incels” bad?It's true that non incels males have caused far more violence toward women, than incels. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/23 06:31 AM |
| 9 | Are “incels” bad?I have been saying this every time I see the word gay used as an insult. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/23 06:28 AM |
| 12 | Are “incels” bad?Also gay is another insult used too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/23 06:26 AM |
| 4 | Why is the issue of men not approaching women, always have to be negative?Fair point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/08/23 06:05 PM |
| 4 | Why is the issue of men not approaching women, always have to be negative?All those are valid reasons too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 09:26 PM |
| 9 | Why is the issue of men not approaching women, always have to be negative?"Also, what do you mean men aren't expected to conform to gender roles? It's better now than in the 1900s, but it's still pretty bad. Girls wear pants every day but if a guy wears a skirt people will assume he is trans, gay, or a freak. Will probably even get him killed in some places" You are speaking facts here. It's not the 1990s anymore and 2023 isn't perfect. But what I mean by that is that maybe it would get better for men in the next 10 to 15 years when it comes to gender roles. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 07:44 PM |
| 18 | Why is the issue of men not approaching women, always have to be negative?Good point. I made a post about this too. About people still expecting men to follow gender roles. While women usually get to break their gender roles on average. I should've been more detailed in my post. Because I was seeing this from the perspective of the future. Maybe in the future men will feel less pressure when it comes to gender roles. "they still want those men to initiate romance and marriage, pay for dates, provide and protect, etc." This is basically a meme at this point because of … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 04:06 PM |
| 4 | What are your guy's thoughts about some people who complain about rigid gender roles, while still upholding gender roles to an extent?Did you read the title? Do you understand the word toxic? Did you read when I said contradictions? You do know people can still expect men to uphold gender roles that are negative right? And that's not even my whole point. The whole point of this post is people criticizing rigid gender roles. While still perpetuating gender roles. It's about hypocrisy. FFS, I even mention people not liking those gender roles. I just pointed out the hypocrisy and contradictions. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/23 07:38 PM |
| 5 | What are your guy's thoughts about some people who complain about rigid gender roles, while still upholding gender roles to an extent?"Women, who are expecting sex from their partner, expect them to be sexually active. Hypersexual is someone who thinks about nothing but sex, whenever, where ever. They are not the same thing. No one is expecting men to be hypersexual. Being hypersexual is a negative thing." What part of toxic masculinity you do not understand? What part of people perpetuating gender roles you don't understand? This whole post is about people having views with contradictions. So anytime a man is a shame for turn… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/23 07:29 PM |
| 8 | What are your guy's thoughts about some people who complain about rigid gender roles, while still upholding gender roles to an extent?It doesn't matter if there are differences. Either way, it's still expected of men. There is a difference between being a protector and an abuser. But most people would agree that being a protector is a gender role men must do. And some people would still consider those positive traits of masculinity toxic too, even despite being toxic. So yes being hypersexual is expected of men. And I never said there aren't any differences between hypersexual and sexual. Or assault and nonassault. You are bei… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/23 07:00 PM |
| 10 | What are your guy's thoughts about some people who complain about rigid gender roles, while still upholding gender roles to an extent?A man being hypersexual is viewed as him being more masculine. It's one of the most simple traits expected of men. There are tons of stories from men talking about how women had negative reactions toward them turning down sex. Women who are wives, girlfriends, or even random women expecting hookups. All of them have had negative reactitowardards men turning down sex. Because it's a gender role for men to not turn down sex. And always want sex. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/23 06:46 PM |
| 13 | What are your guy's thoughts about some people who complain about rigid gender roles, while still upholding gender roles to an extent?A man's sexuality is also tied to his manhood. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/23 06:36 PM |
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