I wouldn't trust traditional women when it comes to male issues too (they are as bad as traditional men or even worse).Especially if they grow up in western or progressive countries. Not just because they force the same gender roles BS on men too. They can be just as hypocritical as feminists too when it comes to gender roles and male issues.

People love to have this disingenuous black and white view of women. Where they think most women are these submissive stay at home wives who just cook, clean, and take care of their kids all day. While they think the other half of women are just these successful badass independent girl bosses. But in reality it's a spectrum. And majority of women fall in the middle. And a lot of people on the left are afraid to admit this. So they would rather use the extream ends of the spectrum to represent most women instead. Sure some women might lean more towards one side of the spectrum. But this doesn't change the fact that most women fall in the middle of this spectrum.

So I would like to focus on traditional women here in this post. Again traditional women can be just as hypocritical as feminists. For starters in a modern progressive country there can't really be a "traditional woman". The traditional women still benefit from the many freedoms feminism fought for them to have in the first place. Women can work and have there own careers and be financially independent. And it's even more hilarious that a lot of traditional women I see online are very assertive and opinionated. All of these traits are considered "masculine" traits by society. I don't think a woman would be allowed to even have a opinion back in the 1950s.

So one of the biggest issues I have with traditional women, is that they pick and choose when being a helpless women is convenient to them. Similar to how feminists do the same thing when it comes to their convenience. I have see many debates or arguments with male feminists and traditional women. And the male feminsits are usually having valid points. But the traditional women try to pull this gotcha, and say the male feminists are the "real sexist here" because they are "attacking" a "poor" woman. For example the debate can be about gender roles and how men should provide for the family. And the male feminists can have a valid point about women having the right to go to work. And the traditional woman can try to be bad faith here and try to make the male feminists seem like a bad misogynistic man.

Again this is also hilarious because a "true traditional woman" wouldn't have an opinion at all in the first place. And as a black person. I see that this tactic is no different from the tactic black conservatives used with white liberals. In arguments they try to paint white liberals as the "real racists" in order to deflect the valid points the white liberal is making. In both situations women and black people are using a card here. Only difference here is one card is the race card. And the other card is the gender card.

So again similar to feminsits. Traditional women can pick and choose when they want to use the gender card. The main reason I bring up traditional women in this post. Is that I see that traditional women are at the forefront of male issues. Since people can easily be trick and view one of these women as "one of the good ones". So people are going to view traditional women as "advocates" for male issues. Similar to how people view the right, conservatives, and traditional men as "advocates" for male issues. And we all already know this is obviously bad.

But again I can argue that traditional women being view as a "advocates" is even more worse compared to their male counterparts. Because depending on the country, these women are still raised in a society that had a lot of success with feminism. Therefore benefiting all women, including traditional women. So this can cause a loop hole where women get to have the best of both worlds like usual. Where they can trick men into following traditionalism. While still enjoying the benefits of feminism themselves.

In conclusion, traditional women are not good for fixing male issues.