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All of them had their specialties. I never really followed them super close but Todd is obviously the most technical one and a lot of guys liked him probably because they come from engineer/very logic based backgrounds. So his technical explanations really made sense and resonated with people. Don't really know much about Luke but I think his speciality was social circle game. Not sure much about Jeffy either. Max obvious benefited from being pretty fit and conventionally good looking but he see…
/r/seduction21/07/26 10:43 PM
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The best system is whatever works for you. Systems in whatever field, whether it's self help, business or pickup often get you stuck because it's stuff that definitely works in a sense that it clearly worked for the creator and probably also other people, but the problem if it doesn't resonate with you then there's going to be a ton of friction. Part of it also could be the interpretation of the system. ToddV is solid but he can be overly technical to the point where some guys get stuck hyperfix…
/r/seduction30/05/26 10:28 AM
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Rejection doesn't necessarily mean you did anything wrong, it's all just feedback that she is going a different direction based on what she values and there's nothing wrong with that. I had a girl cancel the day before the third date to say she wants to cancel because she is moving forward with a different guy instead. Instead of me thinking I did something wrong or me trying to compare myself to this guy, objectively the rejection just meant the other guy was a better fit and it's never persona…
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:41 PM
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Anything can work, it's really about how you execute it. Like if you purely recite it, it probably won't do anything, but just about evoking emotion and making women feel kind of understood because it's really just some psychological generalities. Either it works because the woman kind of likes you and is willing to be more agreeable even in you giving these guesses about her that are more of a stretch, or you just get lucky and those guesses actually do really apply to her
/r/seduction22/05/26 02:04 PM
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There's a difference between blaming them and understanding why you have the beliefs you have today. Obviously everyone is different but sometimes when you assign blame, you end up stuck because you just think life is so unfair given the circumstances and you waste so much time feeling angry at others and feeling sorry for yourself than actually moving on and doing all that seperation you talk about. Other people could be wired to channel the anger into motivation to action which is a better out…
/r/seduction22/05/26 12:54 PM
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Actions speak louder than words, but honestly a lot of things will only make sense in retrospect because you will always have incomplete information in real time. Had a girl sound pretty excited to go on a second date with me, then cancel the day before because she felt stronger about someone else. Looking back there actually were signs and I was somewhat aware but there was no way to know for sure and I just kept seeing it through until there actually was full clarity. In general though the say…
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:44 PM
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This guy is probably selling it lol. That's way too much content though, you are going to make significantly less progress going through all the shit. Watch like 15 minutes of ToddV on one topic, go outside and practice it, and rinse and repeat. Content isn't going to save you
/r/seduction13/05/26 07:31 PM
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It's because you need to get over the hump and things will start to click and it gets easier and you will see the return on investment. Anything worth doing will be difficult. But just think about it this way, what the fuck is the alternative. If you aren't getting success on dating apps what will be your lead source? Just hope you get lucky?
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:16 PM
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I mean it definitely could happen given the premise of the friendship in the first place but I just don't see it being worth the effort. Your mistake was just entertaining this friendship to begin with because she clearly is trouble
/r/seduction30/04/26 01:05 PM
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I imagine your delivery must be super serious and logical instead of fun. You are building like a fantasy situation with a girl, you aren't trying to actually communicate to the girl you think everyone around you are peons and should bow down to you lol. This is low-key an autism test
/r/seduction27/04/26 07:10 PM
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You came an hour early to save a parking spot to a first date. Clearly you don't value your time as much as you think you do 😂 I honestly think this makes you look way worse than her
/r/seduction29/03/26 09:00 AM
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Being yourself is both the best and worst advice of all time. You are 100% correct but it's extremely unhelpful for the people asking for advice.
/r/seduction27/03/26 07:37 PM
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What's the actual strategy on IG though? DM random girls that appear on suggested? Do you like a few posts and follow them or what?
/r/seduction16/03/26 08:39 PM
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you should have no expectations because you are just setting yourself up for disappointment and it can ruin your state. Go outside and talk to women, that's really it
/r/seduction24/12/25 01:41 AM
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Social media panels have options that you can automatically have orders for likes whenever you post so it can maintain the image it's legit followers. But it's really fucking stupid and something only people in junior high would do. Even if it might pique a women's interest it will certainly fade quickly because it's such an insecure loser activity and she will sniff it a mile away
/r/seduction30/11/25 10:05 AM
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I actually don't really get this. I agree with the other guy because understanding yourself definitely will improve how you express yourself which subsequently helps with your interactions with everyone, including women. But not quite sure how understanding yourself directly helps you with understanding women especially when women naturally operate differently than men in various aspects If I spend a month meditating in seclusion to fully understand myself, I really doubt the conclusions I get o…
/r/seduction17/11/25 10:31 PM
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I think being cognizant of being creepy means you have social awareness of how not to be a creep but unfortunately sometimes being too in your head about being creepy sometimes does make you act creepy. Well maybe not necessarily creepy but just uncalibrated and awkward. You are just going to have to take risks, specifically the ones where you think it might come off as creepy because in all likelihood it really isn't. Like even if it's unsuccessful, if you are mindful enough and pull back and r…
/r/seduction17/11/25 08:21 PM
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Eh there might be a point where you are so sick to your stomach from not getting what you want that you just go for it. I mean even the reality that it's not even a "might be fucked" situation, it's a "you 100% will be fucked" deal if you don't figure it, could be enough for you to break whatever barriers are blocking you. More practical advice is send a friend $1000 and he will send you back $100 for every approach you do. Scale it up or down based on your financial situation where it actually …
/r/seduction17/11/25 08:06 PM
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There's tons of advice given by women on tiktok. Billie Rae and Blaine Anderson are pretty decent but essentially it's all the same things posted here. What needs to be said about dating has already been said a million times. Literally just start talking to women and you will start to pickup on what you need to improve and then you keep iterating and develop your own style of game. That's it. Stop consuming content and learn in the field. You can learn all these "techniques" but if you haven't d…
/r/seduction17/11/25 05:21 PM
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I felt like I've seen the same post for 4 days straight lol
/r/seduction01/11/25 02:52 AM
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Tinder might be chalked. Hinge is far superior imo
/r/seduction23/10/25 03:41 PM
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NYC, Chicago, Miami, LA, San Diego Probably in that order. Reverse order if you actually care about weather lol
/r/seduction23/10/25 01:51 AM
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Scottsdale is way better for night game than day game imo
/r/seduction23/10/25 01:51 AM
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SF isn't the best place purely in a game perspective but there's still quality women out there, and the upside is it's a great city in terms of there's always something to do. Literally just go take a weekend trip and see for yourself
/r/seduction08/10/25 12:07 AM
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Why would you put down a deposit without knowing the full price lmao. Pure stupidity
/r/seduction05/10/25 03:11 AM
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Thursday is my optimal day because for a lot of people weekends are sacred or it's harder for them to commit on weekends. But ultimately it doesn't really matter, if they have some level of interest, if you suggest a weekend but they don't want to do it, they will suggest a better day that works for them
/r/seduction11/09/25 05:18 PM
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As soon as possible. There's levels to touch so start platonic (hug, quick touch on arm after saying something, leading her by touching lower back) then keep testing more flirtier things. Like examining hands, hand on thigh, resting arm over shoulder, overall proximity sitting next to her, ect If she rejects at any point just take one or two steps back in an unbothered way, then try again later. At some level though you need to be aware when it's clear she is not about it and you abort trying be…
/r/seduction11/09/25 04:04 PM
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It's a catch 22. For a lot of guys, or at least the inexperienced ones it's never going to feel natural until they get used to it
/r/seduction11/09/25 04:02 PM
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It's pretty clear a lot of your self worth is derived from people's opinion of you rather than your own opinion of yourself. While you rectify this, on dates you need to spike her emotions. Don't let the date be an interview, talk about both your and her interests and don't be afraid to disagree with her. And then you need to mix in both verbal and physical intent, aka flirting
/r/seduction10/09/25 05:40 PM
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Warm up with something less intense than pure opening. Do drive by compliments or talk to the bar waitress or bouncer.
/r/seduction06/09/25 04:21 AM
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It's really no different than being outrovert, you just have to do it. Warm up sets could help because even short interactions like asking for directions, giving drive by compliments, ect can bring you into a social mood and push you to do longer sets. The other thing is just practicing presence. I guess that's a skill in itself you have to cultivate but meditation can help clear your mind
/r/seduction31/08/25 01:11 PM
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You can try for a FWB situation or just remain friends if you think she would be a good friend there's value to a friendship that doesn't involve some long con to be with her eventually
/r/seduction28/08/25 05:26 PM
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Go look up Todd V's video on flirting. He provides examples and a logical explanation of it which you can use as a starting point and develop your own style of flirting. But overall you want to work towards not only setting a fun vibe, but making it abundantly clear there is some sexual tension between you and the girl. You honestly could achieve this mostly nonverbally
/r/seduction25/08/25 08:13 PM
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I mean if you were just looking for a hookup then yeah you might be dense. If you were only interested in something long term then sure, if the entitlement thing was a dealbreaker then it's a dealbreaker
/r/seduction05/08/25 07:12 PM
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Pretty sure he joined RSD after the timeline in The Game
/r/seduction23/07/25 02:57 AM
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Actions speak louder than words. It's pretty simple, she does enjoy talking to you to some extent, just when it's pretty convienent for her. Anyone can be a bad texter, but if they liked you, it wouldn't be as bad as what you wrote. I have even friends who apolgize for answering a couple hours late lol
/r/seduction21/07/25 10:48 PM
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Honestly all you need is Models. Go in the field and practice
/r/seduction13/07/25 05:19 PM
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It's not what you say it's how you say it and the vibe you give off. If you say it super unconfident with a shaky voice then yeah it's weird. If you say it confident as fuck and are unfazed by whatever she says then it's not weird
/r/seduction11/07/25 01:38 AM
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Have more sets with 10s until it works out lol
/r/seduction25/06/25 05:33 PM
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I wish I learned that in college but maybe it was going through the ringer and experiencing it is the only reason why it actually makes a lot of sense now
/r/seduction03/06/25 04:55 PM
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I don't think you need to remain in contact if it's going to be months. A couple weeks before you could be replying to her stories very sparingly to get you back closer to top of mind.
/r/seduction02/06/25 07:05 PM
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NYC and Chicago would be good.
/r/seduction30/05/25 10:45 AM
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RSD Luke back in the day
/r/seduction29/05/25 03:46 AM
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I think you should try not going for the close at the same time as the open. You can keep the direct part but do a vibe check which could even be as short as a few sentences, and then go for the ask. Your approach would only work if she is initially attracted to you and you likely would get more dates establishing more rapport first
/r/seduction18/05/25 07:19 AM
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You grew up very socially calibrated, or I guess to a greater extent than the average person, especially in these times. If anything you should be happy lmao
/r/seduction08/05/25 05:51 PM
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Yeah weather is horrible and there's less to do specifically in Scottsdale compared to all the other cities. But nightlife is still pretty strong all summer long. Best time to go to Scottsdale/Phoenix would be November-May especially if you were trying to visit longer term.
/r/seduction01/05/25 04:27 PM
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I live in Scottsdale lol. Austin I've visited a friend in late spring and when I went a lot of people hang out at Zilker. It may have not been peak summer, but I imagine it would only make paddle boarding even more popular in the Barton Springs area
/r/seduction01/05/25 04:23 PM
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San Diego, Chicago, New York. You could consider Scottsdale. It's definitely a big jump in a tier down especially because the weather but there's never a shortage of hot women in Scottsdale lol. Austin is cool too, I think it's a pretty social place because they have a big park and a river that people congregate at.
/r/seduction01/05/25 03:02 PM
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As long as she doesn't have a flare up I think it's relatively low risk. I mean respect to her for her disclosing.
/r/seduction29/04/25 09:16 PM
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I only read half the comment and I thought you were giving more examples of what you assign letters to so I was dissapointed that you didn't have expansive knowledge of tables, lamps and chairs lol
/r/seduction29/04/25 08:16 PM
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Well you seem in denial about the whole thing. Outward you pretend like you don't like her romantically but on the inside you know you do. You kind of pigeonholed yourself though by never going for it because she may have "friendzoned" you because you kept acting like a friend this whole time. The cleanest thing probably would be just find a girl outside of work, but hey the heart wants what the heart wants but there is some risk of things getting messy. Either way you just need to make the choi…
/r/seduction24/04/25 10:39 PM
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Yikes dude, I get you are in an emotionally vulnerable state because your ego got destroyed but these are the advice you need to hear. Your world view might be shaken and challenged but that's okay but stop lashing out on the people who are genuinely giving you advice
/r/seduction24/04/25 08:42 PM
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You weren't the joke, but this really is just a wake up call you need to shift some behavioral patterns, aka not being afraid to go after what you want and show interest from the start. A lot of us have been in the same spot as you at one point or another. I know I faced something pretty similar in college but you just learn from it. There will be other girls in the future who are even better than this girl and you will be better prepared for those oppertunities. Just keep your head up and itera…
/r/seduction24/04/25 08:37 PM
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Probably a little too aggressive for daygame but it could work on many girls. It also could piss off a lot of girls lol
/r/seduction15/04/25 11:05 PM
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It doesn't really mean anything yet. Keep hanging out with her and ramp up the flirting and see what happens
/r/seduction12/04/25 07:06 PM
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Honestly it hardly matters what you say, it isn't really going to change the outcome. Either she wants to see you or she doesn't. Obviously if you say some stupid shit like "of course my queen, I am available any time" then it's bad but worrying about appearing too available is needy in itself. Literally something like "yeah Saturday night works" is fine
/r/seduction11/04/25 09:35 PM
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It's even possible she didn't even hear you. I wouldn't reccomend you to go back and try to hit on her again, but there's no issue in continuing go there as a customer
/r/seduction10/04/25 06:33 PM
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Lol I thought it was autism spectrum disorder
/r/seduction10/04/25 12:20 AM
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I guess I went overboard with this because women started telling me they had concerns that I was too unserious lol
/r/seduction07/04/25 01:14 AM
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I mean actions speak louder than words. As long as you are able to keep getting her out on dates there isn't too much of issue. She just could be a girl who likes calling/FT rather than texting
/r/seduction06/04/25 11:53 PM
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Lmao it's not a shit test
/r/seduction05/04/25 01:37 AM
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The more rapport and time in the conversation, the higher likelihood she messages you back. Of course there's obviously edge cases on both ends like a girl might be attracted to you but she has somewhere to be so you only talk to her for 2 minutes versus a girl doesn't text you back after a 30 minute conversation because she's to shy to leave the conversation even though she isn't interested. I think that's good you are bringing up an activity to do with her, but it honestly sounds like you are …
/r/seduction30/03/25 04:30 AM
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Its not a shit test but it's kind of a screener and can test your frame a bit. If you can't think of any activity or if you shit on your own activity because you are afraid it would get judged, then that's obviously going to subcomunicate red flags to some extent.
/r/seduction28/03/25 08:57 PM
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Yeah it's not going to work. Maybe in the short term it kinda will work but it's ultimately a ticking time bomb because she will become unhappy with the arrangement. It's just the reverse situation where a guy likes a girl and deludes himself he is fine being friends when he ultimately always is looking to convert it to something more, and is delusionally optimistic he could make a girl change her mind about him. I was sort of in a similar situation and I just immediately ended it to save myself…
/r/seduction21/03/25 05:52 PM
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Actual style consultants are expensive and they will reccomend expensive things. One tier down is you can get services from TikTok creators and I think it actually can be decent and you can tell them price points you want per outfit. More effort but probably the "best" way is just figuring shit out yourself. The same people who sell services on TikTok also post videos on actual items or inspos and you just need to pick stuff yourself. There's YouTube and TikTok videos that help you establish a g…
/r/seduction20/02/25 03:34 AM
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Maybe you just came off as too clingy even on the date and she sensed you were more into her than she was into you. But regardless right now you clearly have abundant neediness that you need to level out. The sample size is pretty small though so I'm all honestly the only conclusion you can actually make with certainty is this woman wasn't a match and you just move onto the next. If this type of situation keeps repeating than that warrants some reflection for behavior changes
/r/seduction19/01/25 10:02 PM
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Stop worrying about get anything "right" and just start doing. Not making the girl uncomfortable and being new to cold approach is sort of a paradox because in all likelihood your first time you will be nervous, you might stutter, you might blank out, but that's okay. As long as you don't harass the girl or be rude then you are doing fine. Your goal should just be to say something to someone and that's it. When that's easy you gradually take more risks. For example if you are having trouble appr…
/r/seduction15/01/25 01:31 PM
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None. But if you are determined to use premium, it's different for each country
/r/seduction14/01/25 05:15 PM
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The only escalation you should be doing is moving towards a date. Save the chit chatting for in person. If you are already trying to flirt with her you already established some sort of premise, so literally just ask her on a date. Just be specific with an activity and date at time. If you are so insistent on a transition ask "hey have you been to <place>? I heard it <fill in the blank (like has the best Mediterranean food)>". She responds with whatever then you say "cool, I've been wanting to tr…
/r/seduction08/01/25 02:19 AM
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This isn't oneitis, but it's an obession about trying to know the answer to everything. You already asked for feedback and she gave it to you. There's nothing more to reflect on, it's out of your control. There could be a million reasons why she didn't want to go on a second date, but ultimately all that matters is she doesn't want to go on a second date. If you always get second dates then I wouldn't even worry about needing to "fix" anything.
/r/seduction07/01/25 10:41 PM
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I think this response is way too deep in theory. Ultimately I don't see any harm in trying it out once or even a few times and see if it suits you. Game doesn't have to be 100% optimal like lifting. If you want some theoretical counterpoint, it breaks the montony of average dates and creates something more memorable. Even on your emotional point, you want there to be spikes of emotion and not just flatline the whole date. Thinking emotions are just going to trend down the rest of the date is rid…
/r/seduction07/01/25 10:28 PM
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I think this is pretty interesting, I'm going to give it a shot. I think it really evokes fun and spontaneity and I guess gives you some very basic screening based on her reaction.
/r/seduction07/01/25 08:55 PM
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Demonstrating higher value through a gimmicky routine sounds like that's lower value 😂
/r/seduction07/01/25 06:58 PM
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Happened to me once and it was pretty awkward. I just said "oh shit my bad and walked away" lol. But then I still made other approaches at the mall after. It's sometimes an easy mistake to make. I feel like there are girls who are 15 now who don't look close to any of the girls who were 15 when I grew up.
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:52 PM
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Post screenshots of your conversations
/r/seduction09/12/24 10:54 PM
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Well like most questions regarding social stuffx, the answer is always it depends. I think you have the correct calibration that a more hookup oriented match is more likely to just go to your place on a first date but it still carries risk. In the end I wouldn't overthink it and just do whatever you think makes the most sense given the situation. If you just want to invite the girl over directly to your house then go for it. I would only stop doing that if it's clearly harming your conversion ra…
/r/seduction09/12/24 01:44 PM
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In hindsight you are right, I usually only use it in groups of 3 or more so there's always at least 2 people left behind. In a group of 2 or girls it's probably best to find a guy for the friend
/r/seduction07/12/24 06:55 PM
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You can iso by telling the friend, "hey I'm going to take <girl> to the bar/dance floor, we will be right back". So then you can just be 1 on 1 for like 5-10 minutes which might make the girl comfortable with the idea it's fine to leave the friend. You then should go for the pull in which there's a few things that could happen. Assuming the girl is attracted to you and does want to go home with you she either will be comfortable texting or going back to the friend and say you guys are leaving, o…
/r/seduction07/12/24 01:13 PM
1

Well there's only one way to be sure, flirt and see if she flirts back and then ask her on a date
/r/seduction20/11/24 08:46 PM
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When I'm bored I just spam stupid shit like "type of woman I would save before the kids in a fire"
/r/seduction14/11/24 11:03 PM
1

Night game essentially implies the venues are places where meeting people is normal and expected. People go to the store to get something done while people go to the bar because it's a social setting
/r/seduction14/11/24 08:47 PM
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Literally any major city will have what you are looking for, it's just on you to find it. Austin, Phoenix and San Diego might be good candidates.
/r/seduction13/11/24 09:27 PM
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Why are people so ultra niche when it comes to game at certain venues. Like I understand why people would categorize between day and night game because there are implicit differences, but why tf are we getting into shit like "coffee shop game". It's really no different than cold approach on the street except you don't even have to stop anyone because they are either just standing in line or sitting down. You also have more flexibility with transitioning to an instant date especially if you are t…
/r/seduction13/11/24 10:04 AM
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1 is an obvious yes, the rest you need to test the waters. You don't just go to from 0-100 by just kissing her without any context, you need to work your way up the escalation ladder to get a better sense where she is at. In general though you can't escape being in a situation where you might be moving too fast. If you play it safe every time you are going to miss some, if not all, oppertunities
/r/seduction13/11/24 12:02 AM
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Seed the pull earlier in the date. Bring up something about your house to just even gloss over the general premise of her ending up there. Super easy if you have a pet because then you can make the excuse you need to go back home to feed your dog and you want her to meet your dog. There's multiple different ideas, you can say you make the best espresso martinis or whatever drink, you can bring up playing the guitar, ect. If she is really into you then you can get away suggesting the stupidest sh…
/r/seduction11/11/24 11:40 PM
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Maybe just lack of experience and you are too afraid of not having any reference to guide you through new experiences
/r/seduction11/11/24 11:32 PM
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I highly disagree with this post and I think it's bad advice to only look for "warm approaches". Who cares if a girl didnt look at you and possibly ultimately didn't feel like talking to strangers at that time. Its not like you ruined their life, let alone their day for talking them for a few minutes. There will be women who don't show those warm signals but absolutely would love to be approached and now you completely cut out all those women. If you see a girl you are interested in, approach he…
/r/seduction04/11/24 04:36 PM
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Why do you think everyone knows exactly what you are talking about
/r/seduction01/11/24 01:39 AM
1

Hospital Gown with a sign "Sick of these Hoes". It's a hit, although it sometimes gets annoying because guys and security guards kept wanting pictures, but just as many girls asked to take pictures with me For some reason it attracted a disproportionate amount of nurses
/r/seduction31/10/24 07:17 PM
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The"issue" with this approach is you built no rapport and immediately asked for something. This shotgun approach might be fine in certain venues but I feel like gym approaches should feel a lot more calibrated given the environment
/r/seduction31/10/24 04:07 PM
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Go watch the ToddV video about flirting. It made the most sense to me from a logical perspective although ultimately you just learn through your own style which can only be done through experience out in the field. But to summarize ToddV, talking about something or yourself is a statement. Talking about her is a compliment. Using "we" is where it gets to flirting Ultimately you have to combo flirting with subcommunication of what's the whole point of the interaction. Are you there to be her frie…
/r/seduction16/10/24 03:13 PM
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If she likes you, you would know. If you are confused, she probably doesn't like you. Obviously there's nuance, but in general I just keep it simple and not caught up in the weeds of making things so complex
/r/seduction16/10/24 03:06 PM
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How old are you, I think that could be relevant to age group? But I don't really know if anyone would even read all that, it's way too long.
/r/seduction11/10/24 02:20 AM
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There's never white or black answers to this because every girl is going to have her preferences or desires.
/r/seduction28/08/24 06:18 AM
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This isn't an airport, you don't need to announce your departure
/r/seduction22/07/24 01:03 PM
2

If you still want to keep in contact with her the only real way to resolve this is find someone better than her. That's pretty much it, because if you can't you are just going to torture yourself with this infatuation. This whole work wife shit isn't going anywhere
/r/seduction22/07/24 04:31 AM
0

You have to start FaceTiming her to make it normal. Instead of randomly FaceTiming her, you text her and say you are going to FaceTime her in a second to talk and then over time it becomes normal you can just call her without sending the pre-emptive text
/r/seduction21/07/24 08:09 AM
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She's seeing someone else and you still like her as someone more than a friend. There's no re-engaging here at this point other than giving her the gift.
/r/seduction27/06/24 07:52 PM
1

This might be the stupidest thing I've heard but it's at least a better problem to have because it's less debilitating than being scared of the approach itself. In some way an approach is inherently going to provide validation, there's no way around that. You could control how much validation but ultimately I think trying to manage is just overthinking it. You see a hot girl, you want to talk to her and see if she is interesting. That's pretty much where I would stop with the mindset part. If yo…
/r/seduction28/05/24 03:15 PM
2

NYC. Miami would work but it's a lot more expensive
/r/seduction27/05/24 08:38 AM
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Too many variables. Hard to say what you are doing wrong if we don't know exactly what you are doing. Also we don't know the sample size
/r/seduction25/05/24 08:51 PM
0

Seed the pull earlier so that after you isolate and make out it's an even less jump to get out of there and go for the actual pull. But even if you didn't seed the pull you really could just try leading her to the exit without actually saying "let's get out of here" and most of the time she will just come with you
/r/seduction23/05/24 01:14 PM
12

If she's interested she will go to your places more often than not. The more she's interested the less objections there will be. If she's more in the middle but still interested you can get away with making random reasons to go back like meet my dog all the way to stupid stuff like you should see my basil plant
/r/seduction05/05/24 07:12 PM
2

The caveat is possibly not interested yet. Depending on the context, if it's like a first meeting and he went for it too early, it doesn't necessarily mean he is blown out. I'm not really sure about the stuff OP added at the end though although it probably doesn't matter
/r/seduction05/05/24 03:39 AM
82

This might be the worst idea I've ever heard
/r/seduction17/04/24 09:07 PM
1

Man propose is a wild term to use for this context. If you confess your love, 90% of the time it's probably just going to freak her out and she might get weirded out UNLESS she feels really strongly about you as well. This still is an okay option for you to finally move on because it forces the dynamic of the relationship to change. To give a warning though the 3 outcomes would be she accepts your advance and you guys become a couple, she gets freaked out and wants nothing to do with you, or she…
/r/seduction03/03/24 02:57 PM
7

Stop using the BFF mode would be a start. Like is it really not obvious how what you are doing is super slimy. You use a mode that is meant to be platonic but you secretly are using it as a way to get "dates" but these aren't even dates in the first place.
/r/seduction10/02/24 05:10 PM
29

Lmfao this is literally a copy of the movie Nerve
/r/seduction06/02/24 11:51 AM
1

You are friendzoning yourself lol. Usually I would say go for it, and just be bold but the problem is this is a coworker so it's not a great situation if it blows up. You have to start slowly making stuff romantic to test the waters.
/r/seduction05/02/24 11:58 AM
6

Well what if I have small hands
/r/seduction02/02/24 01:18 PM
109

Bro is a pickup scientist lmfao.
/r/seduction02/02/24 02:18 AM
20

This really isn't cringy though lol. Maybe you just take everything too seriously? It's essentially testing kino, gauging compliance, and then going for the kiss. Not sure where this is over complicated or cringy
/r/seduction15/04/23 06:14 PM
7

Sounds fine to me if as long as you genuinely are able to walk away and let her go because you have other options. If it's a front, you eventually will get exposed and it will end
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:48 PM
23

Lmao that's weird dude. I mean maybe it could work out if she didn't remember matching with you and it's just some random IG DM slide. But if she remembers matching with you then you are dead in the water
/r/seduction26/10/22 09:55 PM
4

You replied like a spoiled brat to the best answer to your question lmao. Get the fuck out of here
/r/seduction26/10/22 03:23 PM
1

Why would you even jerk off 8 times a day? Who even has time for that
/r/seduction25/10/22 12:39 AM
2

Follow the simple saying. If she likes you, you will know. If she doesn't like you, you will be confused
/r/seduction24/10/22 03:18 AM
68

There is a surgery where they insert a metal rod in one of your leg bones and then it extends 1mm at a time and you eventually gain 3 inches in height. You will be in a wheelchair for awhile though Although that's a serious thing you can pay like 50k for, you are better off just accepting your height
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:25 AM
7

Do yourself BOTH a favor and not do this.
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:49 AM
2

Sample size seems too low
/r/seduction24/08/22 06:55 PM
0

Peacocking in general is so gimmicky. Like even if it still works it's lame and I would even consider it a crutch because you have to rely on something external to get a girls attention.
/r/seduction24/08/22 02:34 PM
14

Because a first date really shouldn't be THAT serious. Like you barely know this person, and the first date is a light screen to see if the connection is there, not if all your values line up off the bat.
/r/seduction22/08/22 04:15 AM
18

I could even see 2 or 3 years and sleeping with 100 women is plenty plausible considering dating coaches run bootcamps and are going out practically everyday sometimes.
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:46 PM
2

Man is that ebook the new bible of the sub or is someone trying to astroturf
/r/seduction18/08/22 06:28 PM
9

Idk, is it actually important for you to take her to this at the expense of getting shittier seats and then possibly having to juggle making sure she is having at least an okay time? Is your issue that you dont think you would enjoy going alone?
/r/seduction15/08/22 07:30 PM
83

Yeah unfortunately I took way too long to really internalize this but its 100% correct, its usually the guys who friendzone themselves for not advocating what they want, or for not just walking away in a hopeless situation. I think if you are in abundance, just being friends with girls actually can be advantageous because it can create opportunities (not with them, with their friends or something), but a lot of guys just aren't in a position to access the advantages and it ends up being a disadv…
/r/seduction06/08/22 02:19 AM
29

Lmao what the fuck. Just attend small groups and socialize at church? But I mean you can just hop from girl to girl at church, you certainly could develop a bad reputation easily unless your plan is to just run through all the churches near you
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:02 AM
2

Confidence and leadership. For more superficial things, obviously being tall and buff helps but it's not a real requirement or a prerequisite for getting laid regularly, just makes things easier Oh the other thing that plays into confidence is just not being afraid to go for what you want.
/r/seduction03/08/22 06:44 PM
1

Well "hell maybes" are going to matter more if you have a low volume of leads. In a perfect world where you have like an abundance of women in your life, you really only need to pay attention to the hell yes girls. In a practical standpoint or I guess based on your situation, you obviously shouldn't just jump the gun and move on right away just because of a maybe. You leave it as an option but keep searching for the women who will give you the time of day
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:58 PM
10

PUA is just very different from what you started with. The Game by Neil Strauss probably captures what you view PUA as the best, but even in the book he began rejecting the PUA community by the end and I think it has to do with the inauthenticity of the teachings. Just trying to get laid as much as possible might be fine temporarily but PUA never had a long term end game. Or maybe just getting your body count to 1000 was the end game. Additionally I think many people have concluded that many of …
/r/seduction13/07/22 04:00 PM
2

Well it would probably first depend on where you live. Like Miami will have girls everywhere outside while Alabama will have very few options. The easiest place for game lifestyle would just be traveling internationally honestly. You can flirt with locals or fellow travelers
/r/seduction11/07/22 02:17 PM
20

I think guys are just so engrossed in theory and quick to answer no. 2 weeks is a long time, it's even possible she might be LESS interested in a date if there's complete radio silence from you in those 2 weeks. Now you don't need to chat her up everyday, but doing just small things like replying to her story maybe 2 times will suffice
/r/seduction10/07/22 01:16 PM
1

I dont really think it's made up by incels because there's some universal type thing going for it. Like maybe it's taken seriously by incels but everyone knows the stereotype of a "Chad" and it's pretty similar to the Brads, Chads and Thads of fraternities
/r/seduction07/07/22 11:22 PM
2

I'm born and raised in AZ. Its kind of boring compared to places like Austin or Nashville, but it's a decent place to live. If you are 22, then you probably want to be closer to Tempe because you might like Mill and Old Town more. Downtown Phoenix is a vibe but I find it more for like younger professionals as in 26+ range
/r/seduction07/07/22 10:55 PM
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I hate this sub sometimes. Like I know I shouldn't be annoyed because everyone's journey is different and some people just need encouragement but this post is so annoying because it sounds like he doesn't even have it that bad, and OP never actually gave any effort to get out of his comfort zone. Like cry me a fucking river with this loser mentality. Virgin at 20, 25 or even 30? Who the fuck cares, the past is the past you can cry about it all you want but your tears aren't going to magically bu…
/r/seduction30/06/22 03:28 AM
1

This sub should have a requirement to take an autism diagnosis test and have the results posted as your user flair.
/r/seduction30/06/22 12:44 AM
2

There's two ways to go about this, and either way you have to put the friendship on the line, there's no other way. The first way is the immediate and riskier way is just being honest with her. I wouldn't say you have been in love with her for like years, but I would just say you developed feelings and want to take her out on a date on Friday. She could either find it endearing which is great in your case, or she could be totally weirded out because she thought you guys were just friends and the…
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:36 AM
73

I feel like both guys and girls adjust their clothes all their time and you are overthinking. Remember, if you think you are coming off as creepy then girls will definitely pick up on that and it's almost like a self fulfilling thing where you end up actually being creepy. So get out of your head and stop worrying about silly things
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:27 AM
7

Go for the girl you like lol. If you felt a connection with girl B then go for girl B
/r/seduction28/06/22 12:44 AM
801

Friend is a huge W for wingmanning lmao. A true bro
/r/seduction26/06/22 11:57 AM
0

The issue is this just creates inaction. Now instead of approaching this guy is all up in his head about if he is in the right frame of mind, is what he is doing is acceptable to others, are women going to be nonreceptive if he approaches, ect
/r/seduction22/06/22 05:29 PM
2

Seems pretty simple, especially if it's been awhile since you had sex or I guess the frequency doesn't match your sex drive. Even though you hate this girl's personality, it's not like hooking up with her locks you into a relationship, it could have just been you guys having fun. In short, you are having FOMO. I don't think there's an objectively right or wrong choice here, but based on your description of her I think it's fine to stick to your guns because there's plenty of girls out there.
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:25 PM
100

"slightly autistic, non charasmatic, slightly above average looking beta male" I had to stop reading after that lmao
/r/seduction19/06/22 06:30 PM
5

You just talk. It's about the vibe, not exactly what you say. But of course the topic does sometimes dictate the vibe so if you are just like showing off your Robinhood account or some shit then there will be problems
/r/seduction17/06/22 08:01 PM
1

I learned that being quiet and mellow can be okay for building friendships but it's going to hold you back for anything seduction wise UNLESS you are very attractive or have high social status by being a celebrity.
/r/seduction17/06/22 07:59 PM
54

Not really surprising, he reached a point where he has like "legendary" status among the community and he charges that price because people will pay for it. I would imagine all his clients are socially inept tech nerds because those are the only people who could afford it lmao. Now the real discussion is if there is a value to a bootcamp in general
/r/seduction04/06/22 02:22 AM
9

This is key advice in pretty much any area of life. We love to reject ourselves, mostly stemming from our ego trying to make us stay in our comfort zone. But inaction is probably the biggest cause of not achieving what you want because you don't get the valuable experience of working towards your goals which includes both successes and failures.
/r/seduction03/06/22 06:11 PM
1

??? This is a classic example of both doing too much and nothing at all. After reading this I have no clue what you actually want from this. You already know she likes you and instead of going in for a layup which could be just straight up asking her out right away, you decide to just take unnecessary long range 3s by doing push pull and being all in your head. Make your move now or she will eventually lose interest, if she hadn't already after she went super vulnerable and then you made a respo…
/r/seduction03/06/22 06:09 PM
0

Ask her out in person, have a summer fling, get heartbroken when summer ends, think about the possibility of a long distance relationship, have post-nut clarity and realize its better off that it just ends and chalk it up to right person wrong time, go to college and meet a ton of cool ass girls. The alternate version could also be: ask her out in person, she doesn't think its a good idea because of the college issue, well at least you tried.
/r/seduction03/06/22 06:03 PM
1

Ask her out in person, have a summer fling, get heartbroken when summer ends, think about the possibility of a long distance relationship, have post-nut clarity and realize its better off that it just ends and chalk it up to right person wrong time, go to college and meet a ton of cool ass girls. The alternate version could also be: ask her out in person, she doesn't think its a good idea because of the college issue, well at least you tried.
/r/seduction03/06/22 06:02 PM
3

You saying a weak jawline is what's holding you back is the stupidest fucking thing I've read all week. If women aren't viewing you in a sexual way, your jawline is at the bottom of the list for why it's happening. It really is teetering on the edge of incel vibes because the next phase is if you don't change your mentality, you are probably going to start blaming women next.
/r/seduction22/05/22 04:11 PM
140

tl;dr: OP gets drug tested frequently, he trimmed his pubes for the dude who watches him pee for the drug test, later hits on the front desk lady instead. They are now a couple.
/r/seduction20/05/22 02:18 AM
2

Just go to a coffee place that already has board games. There's a place called Snakes and Lattes near me that's a coffee shop (and bar) but people go there for their board game and card game collection
/r/seduction09/05/22 03:21 AM
26

Cold reading isn't unique to game, its pretty much just a social skill that often comes with experience of talking to a lot of people that you might be able to guess things about others by how they look or maybe the energy they give off and how they say things. Like a cold read could be as simple as where they are from or their occupation. You can kind of think of cold reading like you are a psychic, and people are impressed if you so happen to say something that really resonates with them or is…
/r/seduction21/04/22 04:43 PM
14

I don't know why people go so deep in ghosting. Like the reality of it is you aren't getting texted back, there's nothing you can do about it but move on. I think its sometimes good to do some amount of self-reflection but its sometimes tricky because it sometimes isn't good to blame others for ghosting, but at the same time it sometimes isn't good to just blame yourself. I think you should just have the self-awareness to notice things like maybe she lost interest because you were too slow to be…
/r/seduction21/04/22 04:36 PM
1

Some girls will play games but ultimately if they were very interested, they would put a pause on the game and reach out, double text, ect. I would even say the guys that girls allow for this chasing behavior are the guys they are ok with friendzoning and/or have low interest anyway.
/r/seduction18/04/22 02:20 AM
2

If you only get rejections then yes it will wear your confidence down. It also depends on the severity of rejections that determine what ratio of success to rejections could keep you mentally sane. For example if you are getting rejections were they laugh at your face and make fun of you, like 5 in a row will obviously hurt. In comparison you can get like 50 soft rejections where they say they have a boyfriend or something and you will be fine. It also is dependent on how much self confidence yo…
/r/seduction14/04/22 07:40 PM
7

Wtf is a hardgainer. Gaining muscle is the same hard process for everyone and no one has it any eaiser. If people are not making gains it's usually because they don't eat enough, or less commonly they don't put good effort in the gym. Follow a workout plan, eat at a caloric surplus, there's no such thing as a hard gainer
/r/seduction13/04/22 12:12 PM
48

Bro you did 1000 approaches using the same opener lmao. Like you seriously are just some robot that lacks any calibration. If you get so many no responses, one would think you would change the opener up because clearly it's part of the problem. Respect for approaching though
/r/seduction11/04/22 10:50 PM
3

A book isn't going to magically alter your life and turn you into a fun guy. Figure out what you enjoy and then iterate on that. Especially if you want to "learn how to have fun" that's a pretty personal thing and there's no one size fits all advice because everyone is different. But I guess a starting point is the book and/or movie Yes Man. Appearntly the book is completely different than the movie but they both have the same premise. That should give you some inspiration about taking steps to …
/r/seduction11/04/22 07:33 AM
3

I actually was recently thinking about this topic about giving too much of a friend vibe and I definitely think I had this problem in the past where I would always nonverbally put all my cards on the table by accident with being so smiley and giving off a vibe like she was the prize. And I think times where I did catch myself in the moment the actions I was taking to dial it back felt a little incongruent and women could probably sense it which is more of an inner game issue where back then I co…
/r/seduction10/04/22 06:53 PM
9

I defend this sub a lot but now I understand why people shit on this sub. Like this has to be a troll or an extreme lack of self awareness, these lines actually make me fear for any women you come in conact with
/r/seduction10/04/22 06:41 PM
7

You are a texting buddy. Move on
/r/seduction10/04/22 06:35 PM
12

Sounds to me he likes you. But you can easily just test the waters more by amping up the flirting and see if he takes the hint
/r/seduction10/04/22 06:35 PM
38

By PUA teasing do you just mean negging? Negging is literally an outdated concept that isnt being preached anymore. I can guarantee you naturals use push pull but you probably cant even tell because it's effortless in their conversation and it isn't gimmicky or super obvious they are using a technique. These so called chads emit a vibe where women know thess guys would be willing to walk away at any time (push) but they also have periods of time where they focus their attention on a specific gir…
/r/seduction10/04/22 10:21 AM
2

Ok so there's 2 red flags with you. 1) you focus way too much on looks which screams you have very little self confidence. 2) you think human contact is like 99% based on looks, and primarily the face. Do you really think whining that your face isn't as handsome as others will get you anywhere? You can't change your genetics, work with what you got. There are things you can do face wise, for example if you have acne then get a skincare routine or if it's bad then consider accutane. If it's reall…
/r/seduction10/04/22 12:40 AM
3

Ok let's simplify it for you. If you don't have a good face what are your options. Working out can change your face a little bit (sometimes dramamtically if you are overweight) but that also takes time. So are you just going to cry you weren't born with elite face genetics or are you going to wait 1 or 2 years so that results from working out start to show? Fuck no that's stupid as fuck. Upping your style is a short term win anyone can improve literally immediately. If you are so caught up in th…
/r/seduction10/04/22 12:02 AM
0

Fwb type of girl, although don't be surprised if she unloads some emotional baggage or something randomly. It's pretty much a relationship you could only enjoy at face value
/r/seduction02/04/22 03:17 AM
28

It's common from an optics perspective especially with mutuals and what not. But your optics is "I'm good looking, this girls isn't that attractive, this is a bad look for me" which really says something about your ego.
/r/seduction18/03/22 03:39 PM
1

You should always assume attraction and Todd's courses don't teach you any differently. With Todd I feel like he relates more to analytical or engineering minds because they like a blueprint of how to approach things. I thought John Anthony was pretty hated in the community and I never seen much of his content other than he likes to just make "expose" videos on his competition. In short you actuslly don't need a course. There's enough free info that it's enough just to go out, try stuff out and …
/r/seduction12/03/22 08:52 PM
1

Just watch Todd V's free videos about the system if you wanted structure. Open, premise, evaluation, narrative, close.
/r/seduction02/03/22 02:34 PM
2

I'm pretty sure the way you are suggesting implies being a dick. Like this pretty much boils down to you telling her "its your fault I'm not into you".
/r/seduction01/03/22 03:15 PM
1

No, majority of your weight is probably from your bones. You don't really have fat, but to be fair you want wouldn't have much muscle, and of course your abs would show but a 6 pack isn't impressive on skinny guys when their arms and legs are sticks. Source: former recovering skeletor But anyway, that shouldn't stop you from trying to approach or whatever, just something to keep in mind that you shouldnt be complacent in because that weight isn't even healthy.
/r/seduction27/02/22 05:10 PM
1

I think this advice is wrong for a subset of guys. If you have no other options, then yes its worth to comepletely forget about her and focus on gaining abundance. But if you already have a rotation going, there's not really a harm in sending a text a week later because it's a shot in the dark, but the main difference is the guy with abundance already is truly outcome independent.
/r/seduction25/02/22 08:38 PM
4

If you are questioning if you should move on that likely implies you should move on. I mean you have it better than some guys, other men won't even have the instinct to move on and continue to pine for a girl and ultimately lower their self respect by wasting time on girls not worth their attention
/r/seduction25/02/22 08:34 PM
56

Subcommunication. So like everything besides the literal meaning of words that come out of your mouth. Stuff like eye contact, posture, vocal tonality all contribute to the vibe of the interaction and you basically want to come off like you are a confident guy and you are making it a man to woman interaction, but not like directly stating it. The woman should feel sexual tension in your interactions and the less direct you do it, the better it is
/r/seduction25/01/22 07:47 AM
1

Trust you gut
/r/seduction22/01/22 06:59 AM
1

Ok so why aren't you taking her out on dates or something?
/r/seduction21/01/22 05:14 PM
6

There's really no better way to overcome it than just taking a "big" risk and going for it. Because after a few times your experience probably should subvert your current expectations that women don't like people approaching them. I mean there's some mindset stuff you can do but in general the best way to overcome AA is to just go out there and make approaches
/r/seduction13/01/22 04:10 PM
1

LMR at what stage? In general at any stage you just acknowledge it but not make it a big deal so it isn't awkward, and then take a step or two back and then retry again later on. It's also optimal to understand what's the actual holdup on her end, and she will likely give hints about it in some way. One example that doesn't apply to your situation but just for the purpose of explanation is when a girl is with her friends at the club and you want to take her home, one of her hold ups is she doesn…
/r/seduction13/01/22 03:57 PM
32

Well the texts you sent weren't actually bad. Usually when people drunk text it's super simpy/needy or it's too blunt about wanting to fuck. But the bad news is unless they reciprocated the energy about wanting to meet up then that's the end of the road. The one that had grad apps is still an option in the very loosest sense where the only "play" is just talk to other girls and you can try one last time after her grad apps are done to see if she wants to hang out. If she REALLY liked you, she wo…
/r/seduction13/01/22 03:13 PM
56

Same issue with SF, it's a lot of tech bros
/r/seduction12/01/22 08:02 AM
169

Tier 1: NY, LA, Vegas, Miami Tier 2: Austin, Scottsdale, Denver Avoid: Seattle, SF I think Austin is a great place. Growing city that has a lot of younger people who are looking to make new friends, has a decent night life and isn't as snobby as NY and LA. Decently priced too. Scottsdale's Old Town is good but the rest of the city is pretty boring imo. Cities in tier 1 should be self explanatory
/r/seduction12/01/22 07:57 AM
1

I could see this going either way. On one hand I think forehead cases might be kind of weird and I would argue that could even be more intimate in a sense. One the other hand I could definitely see girls liking this because its different and might even boost attraction if they are into you. I think its definitely worth experimenting with a cheek kiss but obviously it isn't a 100% foolproof method. Could be situational because some girls might think its lame you didn't go for an actual kiss while…
/r/seduction10/01/22 01:11 AM
3

Well good news is you have leads so you nailed down one step of the equation. Now you need to just improve on your dates and it seems like the biggest issue is you are boring. Chances are you aren't escalating or your conversations are just like Q+As and you need to lighten up the mood and start bantering
/r/seduction06/01/22 08:41 AM
2

Only watched their free shit back when they were still around as RSD, but the huge turn off was the videos are like an hour each and it's always just an ad to buy a super overpriced program. Ironically I actually like Julien's new stuff. I think it's long term more beneficial and even useful than straight pick up content.
/r/seduction06/01/22 07:39 AM
33

Steps: meet more people. If you are too shy then become a bartender or even a cashier at Whole Foods. The biggest reason you are feeling sad is because you aren't actually taking any actionable steps to fix the issue
/r/seduction06/01/22 07:35 AM
3

Well night game is the best way if you are really just looking to get laid. Getting laid from day game is inherently much harder. It really all just depends on what you are looking for. If you aren't having fun doing night game, then don't spend a lot of time doing it. But if you are just looking to get laid then you might just have to suck it up. But on specifics with night game, the key is get in a flow state early in the night. Have shorter sets earlier in the night also so you have some poss…
/r/seduction06/01/22 07:32 AM
189

Not the most optimal scenerio considering you are essentially confessing your feelings over text, but honestly you already fucked up by beating around the bush for months now, so I would vote to just send it and be upfront about taking her on a date The worst outcome is essentially she says no and you move on with your life and find a new crush, which actually isn't a bad outcome when you think about it
/r/seduction06/01/22 07:14 AM
3

It's a fun read but I never really saw it as some guide or manual for pick up, especially since it was about the birth of the pick up scene. I mean in the book he even talks about how he became disillusioned with it and realized the flaws with the community so it really became like a critique of at least going overboard with it
/r/seduction02/01/22 09:40 AM
2

It's trial and error because at some point you need to find your own style or else your flirting will come off as too forced or just unnatural. As long as you understand what flirting is, then you are on the right track. And a lot of flirting isn't even what you say it's a lot in the subcontext or the nonverbal communication
/r/seduction02/01/22 09:38 AM
1

Just don't flirt back with your friend's girlfriend's lmao. Like what how is this a question
/r/seduction02/01/22 08:00 AM
2

You double texted already. If she wanted to hit you up, she would have already
/r/seduction24/12/21 05:12 PM
1

You have to put the friendship on the line, there is no going around it. She might have friend zoned you already but test the waters and start flirting with her and see how she responds. If she is receptive then step up the flirting a bit more and then ask her out. Alternatively you could just be upfront immediately and ask her on a date and if you guys were actually good friends, it wouldn't actually nuke the relationship if she said no.
/r/seduction22/12/21 05:05 AM
1

The no full body parameter actually is pretty genius as that actually would solve the issue and the only cons is maybe a few false positives with skinny girls only using face pics, but the dating pool is so large on Tinder that it wouldn't matter. I might actually create a simple version for this just for fun over the holidays
/r/seduction10/12/21 03:34 PM
-2

I actually thought about creating an ML algorithm that could effictively swipe right on profiles I would be into. The weight issue could be hard if the girls are really tricky about how they put together their profile because of how they really cherry pick photos that put them in the best light and you couldn't even tell they are overweight.
/r/seduction10/12/21 02:56 PM
1

Dude who cares, why do you want to try to stick it to her and make it known you are "unfazed" by it because this just screams the opposite. Like your theoretical response sounds salty as fuck. You could just leave her on read and wait for her to hit you up which slightly plays games because it leaves ambiguity if you were okay with it or not, or you can just say "no worries, let me know when your schedule frees up"
/r/seduction05/12/21 08:42 PM
0

Miami > NYC > LA > Austin = San Diego. Chicago is also an option I've just never been. Avoid SF and Bay Area cities and Seattle. Scottsdale/Tempe area has lower COL and Old Town Scottsdale is pretty solid because there is never cover at clubs. But the downside is there isn't that much to do in AZ
/r/seduction30/11/21 05:04 PM
2

This dude sounds like origin story of RSD Tyler in The Game lmao. Keep it up I guess
/r/seduction02/11/21 02:15 PM
1

Not enough info, but it's really something you have to play by ear in the actual moment. Just go in the 3 days with no expectations but try to guage interest by flirting with her. If she is receptive then escalate further
/r/seduction01/11/21 06:49 PM
3

I mean with an insta-date if she is initially super into you then it requires less buy in from the women's side because at that point she just wants to hang out with you. If she is on the fence, the smoothie, coffee, food helps create the buy in of if she should spend her time with you. For things like coffee though I figure a lot of times girls just pay for themselves and you don't actually have to buy them anything
/r/seduction27/10/21 06:02 PM
5

Try, there is literally nothing to lose lol
/r/seduction27/10/21 05:59 PM
26

I actually would say probably don't pay for her because it sounds like you are not actually looking for a sugar daddy dynamic and you are deep inside hoping it's something more. If she is actually broke or whatever and you HAVE to pay for her just do a cheaper trip instead some time else. With this situation it just sounds like you are setting yourself up for dissapointment
/r/seduction27/10/21 05:58 PM
43

I mean if you have the money just go for it, fuck it. But you really just have to completely understand the nature of the dynamic and if you are just being her sugar daddy then you can't really expect anything more than that. I really wouldn't call this a once in a lifetime opportunity though lol. A girlfriend would cover at least some of her own expenses and still fuck you
/r/seduction27/10/21 05:47 PM
3

I mean I think she really is telling the truth that she has no idea what she wants and that's why she is acting all random. Nothing really you can do in that situation because she is doing whatever she feels like at the current time. I don't really think it's super problematic for you if you just like the casual sex, it's just a little (or maybe a lot) higher maintainence with this girl
/r/seduction26/10/21 07:56 PM
41

Uh yeah seems pretty innappropiate to do that in a family gathering.
/r/seduction26/10/21 12:55 PM
2

Not really true. Instagram and YT influencers promote programs and their own products and many don't have any certifications at all.
/r/seduction25/10/21 09:10 PM
1

Bars and clubs are the most obvious answer.
/r/seduction24/10/21 03:01 PM
3

I've honestly seen people starting to say Models is a shitty book lol. It's actually really facinating because it's almost like a whole paradigm shift with how a lot of consistently agreed upon opinions from 2 years ago are starting to change
/r/seduction24/10/21 02:56 PM
0

I could see why people think this sub is weird. I used to defend this sub a lot but some of these comments seem off the mark. Giving compliments to a girl isn't simping although overdoing it does. She isn't asking you to simp over her, she is asking you to be more open. Having control over your emotions and being open about emotions is attactive. Keyword control which means there is a balance and there also are ways that you could over do it
/r/seduction13/10/21 04:57 PM
9

Imagine considering using up all your money for two hookers. I mean sure if you could afford it but it sounds like you can't.
/r/seduction11/10/21 12:43 AM
2

It's completely possible you didn't actually read the book. And by this I mean you went into reading it constantly thinking its overrated so you did everything you can to justify those expectations.
/r/seduction02/10/21 01:48 PM
40

That's because you are in SF lol
/r/seduction10/09/21 01:46 AM
19

Yeah agreed, I think a lot of beginners get overwhelmed with the plethora of info and they get caught up in thinking they have to master a bunch of skills before actually seeing success. I know I had that issue for far longer than I want to admit, but once I did get the ball rolling you realize it's not super complicated.
/r/seduction26/08/21 05:48 PM
1

At this point it's what you make it and if you go in treating it like a platonic thing, then that's what it's going to be. If you want to be a date then act like it's a date
/r/seduction26/08/21 12:39 PM
5

Well I mean if she isn't your girlfriend then you do nothing. She's living her life and you should be living yours.
/r/seduction24/08/21 10:00 AM
28

I'm 23 and can't even imagine dating 18-19 just because the maturity difference. But you do you
/r/seduction15/08/21 05:18 PM
4

Holy shit this is almost psychotic with how much you thought about this for a trivial matter.
/r/seduction13/08/21 05:11 PM
1

Game should be fun, glad you are enjoying the process!
/r/seduction13/08/21 10:21 AM
3

This is true and I am glad you included the part that some girls are legitimately busy. Really everything is simple and it comes down to this. On the woman's side: If she is busy she will make time for you, or will schedule a time so she can see you. Either way, if she wants to see you, she will. On the guy's side: If you get the "I'm too busy" then take that as a soft rejection, and just continue to see other girls. You shouldn't just walk away immediately unless you don't have the emotional ma…
/r/seduction03/08/21 01:08 AM
1

I don't think this advice is necessarily bad, but I think it didn't properly explain the entirety of the situation. Like those lines is a big leap and only will work when you have built up a certain level of chemistry while on the date. There's a huge gap missing in between where you are able to build up to say that stuff where its received positively.
/r/seduction02/08/21 04:49 AM
3

I honestly think you are retarded. OP clearly is improving his game. Calling him not a man and saying what he did was beta is just straight cringe. The funny part is part of seduction is effective communication which clearly you suck at considering how you form your comments that could easily be constructive
/r/seduction01/07/21 07:37 PM
3

lmao what the hell this is super ironic saying women hamster wheel things in their brain when that is exactly what you are doing. It's more optimal if OP got her number, but he isn't not a man for giving her his number. The percent of success might be lower if the ball is in her court, but it just comes down to if she likes OP or not. And based on OP's assessment, she is more than lukewarm, so just giving his number is probably fine.
/r/seduction01/07/21 03:17 PM
1

Take salsa classes. I took one during school and met a ton of girls. There's a lot of social events and lessons if you just google salsa classes. I never took it seriously when I took a class and I kind of wish I did. But now things are starting back up again, I probably am going to start going to classes
/r/seduction30/06/21 09:27 PM
2

The commenter might not be from the US. We are spoiled in the US that you can get vaccines like Pokemon cards. If he does live in the US then yeah your point stands lol
/r/seduction29/06/21 07:35 PM
1

Why don't you just drive an hour to SF?
/r/seduction25/06/21 03:25 AM
1

1 and 2 are not unpopular, its pretty much fact lol. 3 I think isn't really true. If you put a man and a woman on an island and they are the only 2 people on the island, eventually they have sex, but in terms of pragmatic situations, a lot of guys really just don't know how to seduce women. 4 and 5 I don't think is unpopular. For 5 specifically it just has to do with gender roles and seeing the man as the provider, and if they don't really have decent career, women know there are other options. …
/r/seduction21/06/21 05:05 AM
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I wouldnt dump her just for that one instance. Like if that's really the only red flag and the first time you noticed this, its way too early to just nuke the relationship
/r/seduction03/06/21 01:47 AM
26

I have a coworker who was kind of perusing this girl who had a boyfriend, but its not like he was trying to get her to cheat on her boyfriend. She figured that my coworker was a better match for her and she broke it off with her current boyfriend at the time and started dating my coworker. They ended up getting married so it worked out for them, but I do agree that in general it could be a red flag and it is especially hard to even have the correct clarity when you are directly involved.
/r/seduction22/05/21 01:47 AM
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Bro what are these replies. Like it's not that deep. If you want to see her again then just reply and set up another date. The games people want to play here are stupid because it just sounds like you are trying to get back at her for flaking. Like if she ends up being flakey still then you realize you can completely move on, but if you just keep ignoring her you are just throwing away a potentially good lead for no reason
/r/seduction19/05/21 06:31 PM
1

Yup can heavily resonate with dishonesty with intent.
/r/seduction07/05/21 06:39 PM
61

you kissed a girl manning the self checkout station?
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:50 AM
5

This can be bad without the correct boundaries.
/r/seduction28/03/21 08:42 PM
14

You are a poet and you didn't even know it
/r/seduction26/03/21 02:57 PM
28

Probably depends on your objective. If you just want to get laid, then yeah probably fun is way more important. If you are finding a potential partner, I would say it's 50/50 because I think screening her personality is pretty important
/r/seduction15/03/21 07:53 AM
1

Shit this makes me kind of feel bad for leaving some of my friends behind because how you explained it is exactly right. Not sure how to feel about the opposite side of this....
/r/seduction11/03/21 07:11 AM
1

Aventus, L'Homme, Savauge, Eros
/r/seduction09/03/21 06:13 AM
25

STEM majors are full of thirsty guys because they are full of awkward introverts. Any chance they get, they pounce on. But there are still a lot of genuine dudes out there, but if they are going out of their way to help you, they are the classic "nice guys" Source: recovering STEM introvert. Never was thirsty though
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:08 AM
2

Just be honest. Obviously if you are saying she is the love of your life and you can't imagine living without her and you only have known her for a month then you have some issues. But if you be straight up, it just works better that way. This also goes for when she is questioning intentions. If you are just going for something casual, let her know that by saying you enjoy spending time with her, but are not looking for anything serious. And you just have to accept if she's on the same page or w…
/r/seduction04/03/21 08:06 AM
1

I wouldn't say looks is 95% of game. It makes it easier for the initial part, but if you are tolerable to at least make a neutral impression, then the other factors can help carry the rest thereafter. Looks makes things 10x easier, but I mean average looks really isn't killing your game.
/r/seduction04/03/21 07:59 AM
1

Todd V made a video about this and his specialty is more of a technical side of game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyRJWOSBbO8
/r/seduction01/03/21 06:26 PM
3

The topic of the conversation really doesn't matter. Like how she perceives your vibe is the most important thing. You can be talking about a video of squids you just watched and then just ask for her number or to hang out later and if she likes yoyr vibe she will go for it. Talk about whatever interests you, and better yet, let her do a little more of the talking
/r/seduction27/02/21 12:26 AM
1

I mean isn't this a good thing that you are able to naturally throw out the lower value girls? If you are just going for a hook up, then you might have to suck it up and reply faster.
/r/seduction27/02/21 12:24 AM
1

Current RSD stuff is pretty much just like self help/development stuff which is why it's harder to apply it to pickup directly. I thought it was corny at first but I actually was able to appreciate their new direction because I think they provide a lot of valuable lessons that correlates to being "high value". That being said I'll never pay for anything RSD sells because it's absurdly priced
/r/seduction27/02/21 12:20 AM
2

He mastered his ability to turn up and down certain emotions on the fly to a point where the "vibe" is distinctly different. Like at his core it's not like he has split personalities, but just able to calibrate very effectively and efficiently. I think maybe the most impressive thing is his background is very logical and analytical which I resonate with, but he is able to switch that off and let being more fun and carefree take over.
/r/seduction27/02/21 12:17 AM
1

Lmao dude what the hell, she is just flirting with you. This is where overthinking things is going to highly work against you and you trying to analyze power dynamics or something. It's literally the girls version of push/pull if you want to get technical with it
/r/seduction26/02/21 06:38 PM
5

Feeling safe has to do more with you being centered and she can trust you can control your emotions. Like pretty much confidence and decisiveness is a big part. If you act like a leader and you know and stay true to yourself, she can feel confident that you can protect her.
/r/seduction26/02/21 06:36 PM
16

Because it's probably a bad influence on people who are on their low and trying to figure out how to get back up. Women and external validation isn't what's going to give you true happiness, and when posts like this set the mentality that women are the solution, they are just going to revert back to being stuck in a hole eventually. This is everything the sub preaches against
/r/seduction26/02/21 06:33 PM
1

This probably shouldn't be upvoted highly because this is literally against the fundamentals of "high value". He is getting his self worth from validation and when you remove it, he feels shitty again. I mean there's really nothing wrong with experiencing the highs and lows because it's just human experience, but this is sending the wrong message for the people who are currently feeling shitty that women and external validation is the solution to their problems
/r/seduction26/02/21 06:32 PM
1

You can do all the external things like gym, travel, make money, ect. but at the end of the day if how you view yourself on the inside is super low, everything you do doesn't matter. This is one of my favorite videos from Julien that resonated with me like a year or two ago. It's hard to say what helped me change and gain a lot of self confidence, but overall I would say I was more thoughtful towards what purpose means in life, and just started taking action to start reaching my goals. I think t…
/r/seduction25/02/21 08:40 PM
2

Get to know the girl on the date, not over the phone. Just do a check-in text Saturday if you guys are still on and then enjoy the date
/r/seduction24/02/21 09:55 PM
4

Not everything in the sub is hard truth, and you should just take things to experiment with and figure what works for you. But to reiterate, when you first meet a girl, texting just for logistics and setting dates is probably optimal, but then it's completely fine to increase texting to casual stuff as your chemistry grows. The main point of the advice is that it's more important to see the girl in person and texting can take away from that from both parties. On the girl's side she can just star…
/r/seduction24/02/21 07:47 PM
1

You really need to work on your self esteem and how you view yourself because the lack of self confidence is visibly noticed by other people and that overall lessens your success. Today just think these things. The only way that you fuck up is if you don't end up talking to her. You are an attractive dude and there's plenty of reasons why people like you (as a tangent, most girls are less shallow than guys. Looks play a role, but honestly confidence and charisma take you a lot farther). Shooting…
/r/seduction24/02/21 07:40 PM
1

Order from casual to most intimate Love ya < Love you < I love you I wouldn't think too much into it. He probably meant love you in the friendly way because you guys have history of being longer term friends. But his actions would be most indicitive of what he means by it. Like if it's business as usual in the future of how you guys normally interact, it's just a friendly thing. But if he is doing extra compared to before, then that's probably a sign he meant it more than just a friend way
/r/seduction24/02/21 07:36 PM
1

Well hate to break it to you, you are likely going to come off as needy because you inherently are needy right now (you can't stop thinking about her). The way to fix the neediness is to become more busy with things you are interested in, and better yet find other girls you are interested in because it seems like this girl is your number one, and potentially only option. To clarify, even if you try to suppress neediness in your interactions, eventually the truth comes out But it's pointless to w…
/r/seduction24/02/21 07:28 PM
8

I think you are misinterpreting a lot of advice. When you first get to know a girl, it's advised to keep texting or snap chatting minimal because your goal is to see her and get to know her in person instead of online. In between dates it's still good to text and Snapchat a bit just to keep you relevant in her life, and as you guys connect more, its fine to increase snapchats/texts because she now has interest in you. The main qualm people have over texting is that you just become like every oth…
/r/seduction24/02/21 07:21 PM
1

Stop taking rejection as a reflection about you personally. I mean it is good to be a little self aware because that's how you improve but I would just have the "onto the next" mentality because it's useless thinking that it was a defeat. The biggest red flag is your are too outcome dependent and it seems like you are trying super hard just to get laid. Just have no expectations other than to enjoy the process. But if you are making 0 progress over a significant amount of time clearly you need t…
/r/seduction24/02/21 07:10 PM
2

"Game" in the US and Europe is likely to have differences but I don't really think it's that drastic. I don't even think you have the correct mindset of what game actually is anyway. Like you are referencing the shit described by Neil Stauss back in the 2000s which is dated.
/r/seduction23/02/21 05:51 AM
4

Lol you do realize when pickup online first started it was literally all just random people posting their thoughts, experiences, and theories. Now these days, every post here isn't even truly unique anymore because eventually people realized there's a pretty basic formula on how to get success. So the bunch of theories you are talking about is essentially all saying the same thing at the end of the day. I don't even think there's much conflicting information at this point, it can literally be su…
/r/seduction23/02/21 05:48 AM
2

I don't really see where vunerability truly comes into play with the post. Like if sounds like honesty if anything, to both yourself and others. You have to be honest with yourself instead of deluding into a trap of lowering standards just to fill a void that comes from scarcity. And then you should be honest with others with your intentions. Like the friendzone exists is because people try to become friends as a way to sneak into potentially transitioning that into a relationship. And while tha…
/r/seduction23/02/21 05:42 AM
2

You probably just need to start with just growing your hair out before you can start actually developing a style. Growing up my hair was super short and I just get a buzzcut everytime. It took a few months to grow out the top and it kinda sucked in that time period to get to a decent length where it was stylable, but now I love my hairstyle. In terms of finding a hairstyle I just googled hairstyles and found one that I thought would look good on me. There's a subreddit thats all about male hair …
/r/seduction21/02/21 10:55 PM
17

I've read these before. I think these probably better for people already in relationships because I think you are meant to go through the whole sets of questions, but obviously that is way too much for stuff like a first date. These are good to keep in your back pocket though and sprinkle it in conversation because it does help you get to know the person better and can even give insight on compatibility. It also opens up the escalation ladder because if you are at a vibe where you can move into …
/r/seduction19/02/21 05:47 PM
4

Just pick a few, maybe the ones you are lowest in. A lot can be done at the same time, like the looks ones (clothing, grooming, physically in shape) can be improved with things like better speech or better flirting. Some build off of each other. Like being better at conversation will make the more flirty skills easier
/r/seduction06/02/21 05:28 AM
4

That one is the most straight forward. How good are you at telling stories with an audience. For example, comedians are some of the best story tellers because they captivate the audience and draw them in with how they retell things. Are you simply stating events are do you add stuff that make stories interesting to hear
/r/seduction06/02/21 05:26 AM
4

How good you can read people without have them explicitly saying how they feel. Like pretty much is your assessment of the vibe accurate
/r/seduction06/02/21 05:25 AM
5

I actually love this. You can track your sticking points and also see progression when you evaluate in the future. This is a really solid list and it gives me motivation to pick a skill or two to focus to improve my score in.
/r/seduction06/02/21 04:26 AM
2

There's a latin phrase "aut viam inveniam aut faciam" I shall either find a way or make one
/r/seduction01/02/21 07:51 PM
1

You just have shitty friends or that one girl is into you and got jealous. Either way they are shitty friends
/r/seduction26/01/21 05:29 PM
8

Girls rarely explicitly tell you though. That's why just making the assumption is better because you are more inclined to take risks. If it doesn't pan out, oh well you guys can still potentially be friends, or you just move on. If you wait for "confirmation" that can just be an endless cycle of waiting and you get no where
/r/seduction21/01/21 05:19 PM
20

Well it still can mean you aren't risky enough so keep that in mind. Like in the end you still need to be flirting with her
/r/seduction20/01/21 03:08 PM
2

Its a pretty enjoyable read, but isn't the ending pretty much saying why bulk of the practices in the book (canned routines) are not what he recommends. I think its good to build perspective because its pretty much just a large collection of field reports, but you are far better off just building off of the lessons in Models or something
/r/seduction16/01/21 09:50 PM
1

You just need more self confidence in yourself and not be results oriented. Meaning if approaching a girl doesn't work out, you won't be beat up over it and you know everything will be okay. You approach girls to figure out the possibility if you guys are a match, not just approaching because you HAVE to get her number. Overall this sounds like an issue that just is fixed with time through correcting your mindset and letting yourself heal from being cheated on. It shouldn't be hard to believe th…
/r/seduction15/01/21 05:12 PM
1

I would establish more of a flirty vibe before going for a movie at home date just because of implication. Like you didn't even hug her yet which is a sign there's low to zero touch. I think a dinner at your house (where you cook and she helps) would work better and gives you so much oppertunity to work up the escalation ladder. Like doesn't mean you need to go for the close, but at least establish some touch
/r/seduction18/12/20 10:10 PM
2

This is just a symptom of lack of abundance, and I'm in the same boat. At this stage you can just go with dropping the girl immediately, but realize you can be missing out on actual good leads for jumping the gun. Eventually where you are in a place where your life is filled with more girls, you won't be as bothered and have high anticipating during the 2-3 days, and you can go back to that. But overall, I would just mentally toughen up now if possible and realize a rejection is not a reflection…
/r/seduction18/12/20 08:31 PM
1

I think that advice is often conveyed to an extreme, perhaps maybe because the majority of the audience reading it is on the other side, so by stating the polar opposite, it tries to "shock" them in to realizing why they need to transition away from where they are at now. In reality, the most optimal place is to be inbetween where you are focused on the relationship, and also just improving yourself which are not mutually exclusive things. Being overly relationship focused is bad because perhaps…
/r/seduction18/12/20 08:26 PM
1

I wouldn't just move on after she wasn't warm on the first date, I would just continue to do exactly what you did. Follow up 2 or 3 days later to see if she is down to go on another date, if so, great maybe it goes better this time. If she gives an excuse and doesn't reschedule, then that's when you move on to the next.
/r/seduction18/12/20 08:18 PM
1

Living like Larry Gary Although I don't think your mindset should be you can obtain any women you want because that's not even true. Even for the hottest people in the world that just won't be true because people have preferences. But that aside, there is some good takeaways from this post.
/r/seduction12/12/20 12:44 AM
2

If its a complete stranger you don't give a shit about it, yeah you wouldn't like that line no matter how he delivered it. The line 100% can work (maybe it would never work on you, but that's just you), but there is a few preconditions. The cockiness of the line has to match the personality of the person saying it, there has to be some base level of attraction, and there should be some preexisting level of banter.
/r/seduction09/12/20 07:56 PM
7

I mean, at that point might as well work for Match and collect the $$$. They probably pay $160k TC for the starting level engineers in the bay lol
/r/seduction08/12/20 07:36 AM
23

Haha this post has to cement itself in the sub's history. This is pretty well done. I think for people who are not interested in data science, this comes off as pretty crazy, but in reality this is pretty comparable to a dude going to the gym post-breakup. Its just a different outlet. But to OP: I don't really know if your ex's comments are truly a reflection of what went wrong. Its more than possible the texting was lopsided just out of compatibility. He could just be texting a below average am…
/r/seduction08/12/20 07:32 AM
2

I bought the System when it first came out. It took time to fully internalize the concepts but it's because I didn't practice enough with approaches. Also you really could watch his free stuff on YouTube and that would be enough. Essentially it's just a blueprint of like open, premise, narrative and close which just boils down to how escalation should work. Looking back the best way to improve is just to take one piece of game at a time and just get better at it. Like start with getting better a…
/r/seduction01/12/20 01:27 AM
1

Beautifully written.
/r/seduction27/11/20 05:46 PM
1

I would just sarcastically agree with her, but your actions better be different than your words as the night continues.
/r/seduction22/11/20 05:52 PM
2

I agree, read No More Mr. Nice Guy. I mean you are in a pretty decent position with having a lot of oppertunities, but just failing to close. So with a few tweaks you should be set
/r/seduction20/11/20 05:48 PM
1

You approach girls that you don't know. That's pretty much all there is to it
/r/seduction19/11/20 06:04 AM
1

Are you talking about Asians who primarily grew up in Asia or Asians who grew up in the states. Former will be harder than the latter. Also I feel like where you live also plays a big role. If you are in a big city like LA, SF, or NY it probably will be a lot easier their based on overall culture and attitudes. Overall I think it really is a numbers game here and you really just have to get lucky in finding Asian girls who's type are black guys, and these type of girls definitely exist. I don't …
/r/seduction17/11/20 05:43 PM
3

I feel like I'm only truly "fun" when I get drunk which is terrible. Like some of my newer friends made a comment that I was a different person when it was the first time they really saw me fucked up and they loved seeing that side of me. Gotta figure out how I can be more of that person sober
/r/seduction17/11/20 05:20 PM
2

Filled it out, good luck on your research.
/r/seduction09/11/20 08:13 PM
13

Yeah I think this is my sticking point. I've heard this advice before, but I never really internalized it or figured out how to really practice it because it is kind of foreign at first. I definitely believe in many situations, if I had a greater sexual demeanor, the interaction could have progressed a lot further and its something I should be cognizant of to improve my game. Thanks for the post
/r/seduction09/11/20 08:08 PM
1

I think there is a base level where there's certain stuff you should have to meet before approaching and what not, but the list is pretty minimal. I don't think you need to have your career all set or even you need to have a car before approaching. I think the list is more related to the Maslow's heiarchy of needs and has to do more with how you feel about yourself. If your life is in shambles and you are super depressed and mope around all day then yeah I think you need to sort that shit out be…
/r/seduction07/11/20 01:27 PM
2

From how I always understand negging, it surpasses a tease to the point where your comment is like trying to take a hit on the girl's self confidence. I think the difference between negging and push pull is intent and reception. Like negging usually will make the girl feel bad or question herself, but push-pull and banter is always just light hearted fun that you guys can both laugh at. Negging is bad because its a technique where you try to gain something at her expense.
/r/seduction03/11/20 03:56 AM
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Be yourself, but also improve yourself. Obviously if you just sit on your ass all day and play video games, lack social skills, and put yourself in 0 situations where you meet people, shit isn't going to work out. "Being yourself" as an objectively attractive person probably is understood a lot differently than someone who is receiving advice which is why you have this meme. For one, someone telling you to be yourself likely has a lot of self-confidence while the recipient lacks self confidence …
/r/seduction03/11/20 03:44 AM
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I think its all about the intention behind your words and maybe even the passion behind it. For example at this party yesterday I was talking about some personal accomplishments. Although that topic was all organic, I also never felt like the reason why I was saying these things was so I can impress this girl and make her think I'm cool. I was legitimately passionate about things I did and I didn't care if she thought those things were cool or make me high value, I already know I'm high value an…
/r/seduction02/11/20 09:30 PM
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I think it can go either way. You can just not comepletely give up on it and use the abundance mentality, or just completely move on. Talking to other girls might naturally make her jealous or just realize that you aren't going to wait around for her to figure out what she wants. I don't think it's wrong to just cut it off either based on how she reacted to when you said you wanted to be more than friends. To me, her response sounds like she's just playing games and enjoys flirting but isn't eve…
/r/seduction02/11/20 10:08 AM
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Just start acting how you should have been around them in the first place, aka start flirting with them. If these are girls you see somewhat regularly, its probably better to build up the flirtation and not go from 0-100 or else they might just get weirded out from a sudden drastic change of how they thought of you before. But if its girls you rarely see, you might as well just send it and be direct
/r/seduction30/10/20 04:36 PM
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You should have a general structure, but just realize you aren't bound by it. So for example maybe you do dinner then you do something at the park after. But maybe you learn more about the girl during dinner and figure out something she would be more interested in, so you do that instead.
/r/seduction29/10/20 07:20 PM
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I mean kiss close is a little farther up the escalation ladder so yeah it would be super weird to be getting no IOIs and then trying to kiss her. But if you are working the escalation ladder and she is receptive the those are literally your IOIs
/r/seduction26/10/20 05:12 PM
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Your example only really works if the girl has somewhat interest in you or at least would care what you think of her Like when you flip the script and think about the world where your crush texts you if she's been meaning to ask you a question, you might get butterflies because your mind tries to work out all the scenerios of what could the question be. But if someone you dislike texts you that, you dont care and it doesn't ellicit any emotional response. So pretty much if you don't have any pre…
/r/seduction26/10/20 05:08 PM
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"you often hate in others what you fear most about yourself" Holy shit that probably summed up my disdain for my CS peers in University almost perfectly. Also, read your book like 2 years ago and I actually started doing a reread recently. Always a good resource to go back to because I resonate a little too much with coming from a technical background
/r/seduction19/10/20 05:14 PM
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Honestly once a week might be way too infrequent to last until January. Vary up the communication with FaceTiming her and snapchatting her as well.
/r/seduction15/10/20 05:31 PM
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They just weren't hooked enough I suppose. How fast were these interactions? Maybe the first step is just building more rapport and then you figure out how to build a good amount of rapport in the most efficient time as possible
/r/seduction15/10/20 05:29 PM
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I mean this is like the lowest risk you can take that's just above not taking any action. It pretty much allows you to "approach" and get the softest rejection possible which is she never texts you but you are already expecting low conversion anyway so it doesn't really bother you. Pretty terrible all around because it develops no skills and is ineffective unless you are a solid 10/10.
/r/seduction15/10/20 01:18 AM
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I would just play casually. Like don't go super tryhard for a perfect game and don't purposely play bad. Doing above average could certainly be an attractive quality because it shows you are good at something, but the most important thing is really just the vibe because you are barely actually bowling. You probably will be eating and chatting half the time. Off topic, but I never realized how unsanitary bowling is because a lot of people eat finger foods while they touch the balls.
/r/seduction15/10/20 01:13 AM
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Your compliments were WAY too much to the point its cringe and borderline cringy. Like it sounds like you are graced to just be in her presence. This is stuff you say when you already have a connection, not to a stranger. Next time keep it simple and say "Hey its ___ from Arby's. I'm getting drinks at (place) at (day and time) with some friends, you should come join!". Pretty much just remind her who you are, and then invite her to wherever.
/r/seduction12/10/20 11:28 PM
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The best resource is yourself honestly. Like its way easier to just experiment and evaluate on your own experiences so you can develop a game plan this way. Just start with conversations if you don't do that already and then you can work your way up to incorporating pick up in it. But there's surely tons of content on YouTube about daygame
/r/seduction05/10/20 09:06 PM
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Have stuff going on in your life and then just time itself eventually levels out your feelings. Source: had the same scenario not too long ago where I kept thinking about a girl, I actually became busy and didn't talk to her as much and my feelings finally are in check
/r/seduction05/10/20 09:04 PM
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I don't think you should press harder, but there are times you 100% should try again because there's different levels of rejection. Its possible to go for it too early but she still likes you, so no means no at that current time, but its good to take a step or two back and recalibrate and then consider trying again. Obviously not immediately and obviously not if its a true outright rejection
/r/seduction04/10/20 07:57 AM
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This is why you need to set smaller goals or else you are going to feel like a failure and be discouraged. Try what the top comment says, and then I would graduate to just asking girls for directions, and then keep slowly being more and more bold
/r/seduction04/10/20 12:20 AM
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The issue with bootcamps is that its a short term solution that might not last. Its like getting a personal trainer to get ripped, but you only have the trainer for 1 weekend. Shit takes time to develop the right habits and truly fix your issues/elevate your game. Rome wasn't built in a weekend
/r/seduction01/10/20 07:12 AM
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I'm not sure if you just like brainwashed yourself from reading/watching so much material that you are just incapable of thinking for yourself anymore or what. Obviously the advice isn't suppose to be one size fits all and are meant to be just generalizations of what largely works, but at the end of the day you have to use your own judgement.
/r/seduction26/09/20 08:52 PM
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Before you decide even breaking up, maybe you should just talk about it with him? I assume you haven't said it either, so maybe he is thinking the same thing and you guys are just waiting until one of you says it
/r/seduction23/09/20 07:37 PM
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Depends on how serious the league is. Usually they are casual, so as long as you put some effort in, I wouldn't say its going to majorly effect your status. I would go as far and say the opposite can be worse. If you are too good and try way too hard that can definitely lower your status unless it's an ultra competitive league
/r/seduction23/09/20 07:19 PM
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This isn't a shittest lol, she either has a boyfriend or isn't interested in so you just move on. Who gives a shit how smooth your response is. If you are just having fun you can watch those prank channels like ThatWasEpic or AngryPicnic and they have lines to respond to the whole boyfriend thing that makes the girl laugh
/r/seduction23/09/20 07:15 PM
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I always had buzzcuts when I was growing up and I finally grew out my hair a little when college started. I personally like my hair now even though it requires more maintainence but if you look good and like simple haircuts there's nothing wrong with that. Like if you are just concerned with the attractive part, bald people get girls so that should answer your question
/r/seduction23/09/20 07:09 PM
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Push/pull, or at least the ratio of compliments to teases would play a role. For example, if you ONLY give compliments, that is still bad even if you compliment sparingly, and it would be better to mix in teases here and there. On your second question about how the bad boy/player/fuck boy talks to women, they pretty much found the system that works for them so its going to vary, but the common denominator is they don't give a fuck and say what they want. Like the main difference is that a lot of…
/r/seduction22/09/20 07:06 PM
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Approaching with her parents there. Ballsy af, respect
/r/seduction22/09/20 06:57 PM
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Maybe go to the doctor/try physical therapy because there's tons of cases where people recover from accidents and can continue working out. The body is pretty resilient that I would be surprised if you really couldn't ever work out again. But to answer your actually question, I mean yeah muscles are kinda important and generally makes things easier but it isn't ever a requirement. Obese people get married, and some fat people even have got girlfriends because their personality is pretty good. So…
/r/seduction21/09/20 09:47 PM
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I mean if he got her number, he can shoot a text but if she never responds its the same result lol. If a girl just isn't into you then it doesn't matter if he gave his number or if he got her number directly
/r/seduction19/09/20 11:32 PM
1

How to Be a 3% Man by Corey Wayne perhaps?
/r/seduction18/09/20 04:56 PM
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How long have you been in a relationship with this girl? If it isn't that serious I would just consider breaking up considering it's long distance and that makes it much harder to rekindle some spark and maybe it's just better for both parties. If this was a long term relationship, then I think you did a really good job standing up for yourself and hopefully she comes to her senses and cuts out her bullshit
/r/seduction18/09/20 04:19 AM
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Just shift the mindset, but honestly sometimes you just have to fake it at first to get over the initial hump. Instead of saying you can get any women you want, maybe start with there are millions of other girls out there and this one girl isn't special. Maybe it even just starts with telling yourself you ARE a dateable person and you have a lot of value that girls can appreciate.
/r/seduction16/09/20 08:34 PM
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Its fine. The opener content hardly matters, whats more important is how you say it. If you are confident with how you say it, its going to be infinitely better then if you say it meekly and stutter. Theres no "one line fits all" opener. Obviously you shouldn't use this for every interaction and you should experiment with other stuff and see how receptive people are.
/r/seduction14/09/20 11:01 PM
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I guess the picture taking was fine just to start the interaction but you probably should have built more rapport before you asked something else from her, like investing her time. Like there is little reason for her to spend 15 minutes with a stranger unless she really had nothing else to do. At least if you built rapport you could also have figured out if she was on her way somewhere or if she actually had time to watch the sunset, but more importantly it gives her a chance to judge if you are…
/r/seduction14/09/20 06:56 PM
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That's probably a good idea. I think the venue and also where you live also matters. Like I feel in European countries you can still cold approach at night more reliably in the US. Like as long as it's a place full of other people around and there's a lot of lights, you should be fine. But if you see a girl walking by herself at night with no one else around then yeah that's a no go
/r/seduction14/09/20 06:51 PM
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Blocking her sounds like you are super insecure. Like theres nothing wrong with moving on, but blocking her seems like you are trying to give yourself definitive closure so your ego doesn't get hurt.
/r/seduction14/09/20 04:54 PM
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Great hobby, but not that great for meeting girls unless you do book clubs
/r/seduction10/09/20 06:44 AM
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Lol that's a good one
/r/seduction09/09/20 03:56 AM
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She sounds like a busy girl, and in this situation the interactions are so minimal that I would put an exception to the whole idea that if she was interested she would set up a date and time when she is free. Like of course it still applies and if she was super physically attracted to you, then she would go out of her way to set a date, but the interactions have been pretty brief and casual so far that just because she isn't setting up the date, you aren't dead in the water yet. In my opinion th…
/r/seduction08/09/20 07:20 PM
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Yeah women want to view that the person they are dating is a "win" for them. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to be super hot, it definitely could be on the form of non physical characteristics. Women definitely are attracted to leaders, but I don't think it's actually someone who provides them with solutions. Like actually I think at first its the opposite where they rather have someone who at least understands their feelings instead of someone who tries to solve their problems. Maybe in …
/r/seduction07/09/20 04:44 PM
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It's alright but probably not the best for a first date since it's kind of one dimensional. You could use it as either an additional activity where you do something first like a hike, then go to brunch which would be more optimal. Or you could start with brunch/lunch and then do an activity later which could be good if you are kind of unsure about a girl and want to screen her personality and if you think you aren't compatible you could just end the date after eating I think a restaurant date wo…
/r/seduction07/09/20 04:35 PM
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I mean if you do #2, it can just end up where something comes up and you are back to square 1 where she makes some empty promise about doing it another time. The first two times could be legit, but I think the issue is that if a girl was truly interested she would make the initiative herself to set a date and time. It seems that she has a small amount of interest, but at this point it's almost coming off as she's stringing you along as a backup option in case she doesn't have anything better to …
/r/seduction07/09/20 04:31 PM
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Lol dude you literally kept responding to her after 24 hours from her text. Just chill out and wait. I would only go for a double text soonish if you actually are doing something today and want to invite her along. Like let's say you are going to a bar with friends today, then it would be fine to say something like "hey I'm going to X, you should come with". If you want to hang out with her solo, I would wait a few days and if she didn't respond yet, just try opening a basic conversation and act…
/r/seduction06/09/20 04:04 PM
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Definitely not #3 in any circumstance. So after trashing that option, you just have to think about what you want. If you just want to hook up with her again just respond. If you are looking for something more deeper you can still respond on the premise you won't be bothered by being ghosted again, but if you might be bothered by it, then ignore and move on.
/r/seduction05/09/20 09:22 AM
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Yeah I feel you. I'm a senior in college and I pretty much had the realizations you are having now last year pretty much the mid of my junior year. I do have some regrets about my college experience because I realized how much more fun I could have had, but I also had to realize the trade offs that would cause, and overall the futility of blaming myself for not living a different lifestyle back then. There is nothing you can do that can change the past, but you do have control over your future, …
/r/seduction05/09/20 03:33 AM
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Optimally its the whole "show, don't tell thing". But there are a lot of caveats to everything where it is possible to be way too forward too early in the interaction, and there is some range of balance. Obviously after a first date, obsessing over her and really pushing to see her next can be seen as super clingy, but a simple text after a date saying you had fun, enjoyed her company and proposing to do something next week is always a safe and simple thing to do
/r/seduction05/09/20 01:45 AM
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You just need to get your reps in. Its like working out, at first you can't lift much but overtime you can lift more and more, and then stuff you had trouble with at first, you can lift with ease. Honestly people are more forgiving than you think and people tend to be harsh on themselves. You probably were awkward as fuck in the initial contact, but it doesn't mean its a definite L. Go chat her up with confidence and it can change her initial perceptions about you. If you fumble again, just real…
/r/seduction05/09/20 01:39 AM
1

Am I missing something because this is barely PUA in a way that doesn't actually build self-respect. Lets just go through each point I am not needy, I don't text her 24/7 and I don't always text her first that's self-respect, no fear of rejection/ghosting Nothing wrong with this, if a girl never texts you first that's pretty much a sign she has low interest levels. He isn't needy to the point where he always defaults to double texting if she doesn't answer. We talk on and off, I build mystery, w…
/r/seduction05/09/20 01:33 AM
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Lol kinda fucked you put height as a requirement 🤣
/r/seduction03/09/20 06:20 AM
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I mean if you aren't vibing with them before you go back to your place then yeah it might come across weird. But if you connect with them before that then it's perfectly normal
/r/seduction29/08/20 04:46 PM
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Everyones at a different place in their journey. It's like laughing someone who just reached 1 plate on their bench. Shit is stupid and you should be encouraging people not mocking them
/r/seduction26/08/20 06:06 PM
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It really just depends on the vibe, but in general if your push/pulls are conveyed innocently enough as a fun tease it should be fine even for people you just met. I really wouldn't get too caught up in trying to balance you being hot and cold to someone but I would only make sure to just never be constantly agreeable
/r/seduction24/08/20 09:53 PM
1

I mean I really would only drink if it's part of the environment like you are going clubbing. The only time I would drink during the day if you are going to a dayger or some event where there's actually drinking. If you are just going out to the mall or to the park then it seems weird to take shots to loosen up just for approaching and its more of a crutch if anything
/r/seduction24/08/20 09:46 PM
1

Everything is situational at the end of the day. Some leads aren't worth following up on to try to make stuff happen, some leads still have potential even after a flake. For example, a flake from a Tinder girl is often a dead lead and its often worth moving on right away, but a flake from a girl who you met in person before still has potential. I think as long as someone doesn't get held up on flakes and doesn't act needy, they should explore other options, but often times a lot of people just h…
/r/seduction20/08/20 06:07 PM
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Next time don't press her trying to reschedule so hard. Like every reply was a desperate attempt to try to make it happen. In essence if she doesn't bother rescheduling herself, that's a pretty big indicator she has low interest levels in you. In the future if she gives some excuse and doesn't reschedule, you can just talk to her normally and retry popping the question about going on a date after a few days or even like 1-2 weeks but if she flakes again for the second time then that's 100% a sig…
/r/seduction20/08/20 02:10 AM
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Agreed on the post about understanding what you want. It's important to understand your goals so you can create a better defined gameplan to reach those goals since the path to hooking up a shit ton versus trying to get a high quality girlfriend can have differences. Overall the premise is largely the same of being a high quality dude with purpose and confidence but there's more optimal ways to get the results you are looking for. A must read to understand the foundations of all this is Models b…
/r/seduction18/08/20 04:38 AM
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Probably non seduction related stuff because honestly the whole premise of social circle game is just having friends and organically growing your network through meeting friends of friends. There is I guess levels to social circle game where it's optimal to be the leader of the group and being the one who coordinates events for everyone because your percieved value is higher both inside your group and to outsiders. So all in all, the content that probably is most beneficial overall is how to be …
/r/seduction18/08/20 04:34 AM
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This is dogshit advice. First of all, first year of college is classes in huge ass lecture halls full of strangers. Sit by one girl one day, then if it's a dead lead then go sit by a different girl the next class period. If you get rejected these people aren't going to go around telling all the strangers in class unless you come off super creepy. Although I wouldnt try to go as direct like you would go off the bat in cold approach. Since these are people you know you will see multiple times a we…
/r/seduction17/08/20 05:36 PM
2

Not worth your time. Drop her and move on
/r/seduction16/08/20 04:51 PM
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Shave your beard, get a haircut and start lifting. Stop making excuses
/r/seduction16/08/20 04:49 PM
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Comment on her story. If she doesnt post stories then might as well just DM her
/r/seduction16/08/20 04:46 AM
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The video game analogy is actually so extremely relatable. When I first got into Counter Strike I was afraid to play competitive because I was bad and I had people rage at me before. Then as I kept playing I improved to the point where I reached the top rank and people would even add me after matches because they wanted to queue with me. The two lessons that you get better after practice and you will be okay after losing are pretty obvious but when you put it in perspective with something relata…
/r/seduction09/08/20 09:51 PM
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this ain't it chief
/r/seduction03/08/20 12:54 AM
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I don't think getting people's opinion as a source of validation will help your confidence issues.
/r/seduction30/07/20 10:26 PM
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Lol you don't have to pull "tricks" for a woman to chase you, in fact that's just going to fail in the long run if you are trying some sort of trick that ends up being incongruent with who you really are. Your question is pretty much just using the frame where you make yourself as the prize to girls. In my experience there was this girl who I was talking to and I was sharing all the stuff going on in my life and I think she ended up feeling like I was cooler than her since her life was pretty mu…
/r/seduction30/07/20 10:23 PM
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At the end of the day was your response because you just wanted to say what you think she wanted to hear, or because you actually meant it. There's many different levels of being a "nice guy", and one of them is just not being confident enough to try to get what you want. In this case I think everything here was fine because COVID is a legit issue, but you could have said things like you will plan something low risk away from other people and you have been diligent in quarentining. I think givin…
/r/seduction30/07/20 10:11 PM
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It really is both though. How do you expect to master the craft without playing the numbers. I can study the theory of a perfect golf swing for years, but unless I go to the range and keep practicing, the theory is useless unless I actually go out and physically apply it
/r/seduction30/07/20 03:18 PM
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I think people are missing the point because everyone reaches the realization at different times. For me when I was first introduced to the sub there was an overwhelming amount of information and my view of seduction just matured over time as I internalized all the advice I've read, and then finally realized the common denominator was everything being about being a high value man. I don't really blame the influx of all those questions you listed either because even if people buy into the idea th…
/r/seduction30/07/20 03:13 PM
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Social proof isnt detrimental, it really only helps you. You don't even need to have a lot of followers either because the more effective tool is IG/Snap stories. If you post stories that frequently show you have a fun and interesting life, people will naturally engage with you and reply to your story. I don't think it's necessary to have a solid online presence, but if you are about it then all the power to you. u/snapsocialguru has good content around your exact question
/r/seduction30/07/20 02:51 PM
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I think it's good you are pretty self aware about it. You are definitely right that too much interest too fast can kill attraction because there's no chase for her. I think just having things going on in your life to "distract" you from thinking about her when you aren't with her is always good. And then maybe even still having other options available kind of levels you because you will see other traits in other girls that she doesn't have. I think also maybe you should start thinking about what…
/r/seduction30/07/20 01:41 AM
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You are deep in the friendzone dude. You either need to walk away for your sake, or learn to accept her as a friend. Honestly it seems like you guys have a cool thing going on and have a lot of fun platonically. One of the ways you could try to make her see you in a different light is to just hang out with her less and less, and start hanging with other girls. Post shit on your story with you hanging out with other girls and even sometimes "innocently" snap her directly. It might seem counterint…
/r/seduction30/07/20 01:33 AM
2

This is pretty much my go to response because it cuts the bullshit and it isn't rude. It also makes it super easy to see the girl's current level of investment which can help weed out dead leads
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:41 PM
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It is a soft rejection most of the time. There's a few reasons why "I'll let you know" is a crappy response. If a girl is into you, she will set time aside for you and make plans. The only time I'll let you know isn't a soft rejection is if she actually let's you know and ends up making plans, but it usually ends up where she never gets back to you more often than not. Secondly, I'll let you know is often a way where the girl MIGHT have interest but she is leaving her options open in case someth…
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:37 PM
2

You really just have to force yourself to do it. I mean if you know you have no problem during the conversation then it's that much easier. It only takes a few seconds of courage to move your legs towards a girl and go for an opener. And then once you say your opener you will be calmed down because that sounds like the only hard part for you. It's kinda like waking up on a Saturday morning and you don't want to get out of bed. It's more comfortable to just lay there for hours when you wake up bu…
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:32 PM
2

Kino = flirty
/r/seduction27/07/20 09:06 PM
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Chances are there's going to be very few girls who are "mad interested" in you from the start unless you are really attractive. Pretty much on the approach, as long as you pass the cutoff point where they are open to the approach, then just stick to your set. Are there topics that are universal to get girls talking? Yeah girls love talking about themselves. full disclaimer, this is just basic advise and I'm not some PUA
/r/seduction27/07/20 08:05 PM
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This is old drama that popped when about a year ago, about when RSD finalized their distance from PUA. From what I remember Todd said this was taken out of context because the footage was shown during one of his bootcamps and it was meant to exemplify all the wrong things to do It's kinda interesting because this sub worshipped Todd V and then when the PUA drama stuff, it became popular opinion he isn't good, then when the drama went away, people like his stuff again.
/r/seduction27/07/20 12:49 AM
1

Man I remember IB. Most useless experience of my life to be honest, but I guess you get whatever you put into it
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:56 PM
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Do you have an opportunity to hang out in person? If so, it's more optimal because it gives her the opportunity to see how you might have changed from a few years ago. Just try testing the waters by flirting with her, and then just ask her on date. If she rejects then oh well, at least you tried.
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:49 PM
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So after you sent the message about doing it another time, you guys haven't talked since? You could either just go on like nothing happened and continue with like regular conversation and then eventually suggest a Facetime date after a couple of days, or you can just go no contact and wait until she hits you back up. It kind of just depends on her current level of interest. If she is pretty interested in you, she will eventually hit you up. But if her level of interest isn't that high, maybe bec…
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:43 PM
1

It's really hard to tell when you literally only post a picture of your legs so we can't tell if it's proportional to the of your body. But it's pretty apparant you don't squat if that's what you are asking. That doesn't mean your legs are necessarily too skinny. A better metric would just be your weight. If you weigh less than 160 pounds at 6 feet, you pretty skinny
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:20 PM
1

What does that even mean?
/r/seduction24/07/20 04:59 PM
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I think you have a lot of things wrong. I don't really get your point about the physically attractive paragraph. Women want someone attractive but if their looks are their personality then it's a problem. Much like how we as guys would view a girl who is so self absorbed into her looks and that's all she cares about, that's an unattractive trait. And then the second part is just like body language and does it look like you are someone who commands the room. Next paragraph on sex. The whole point…
/r/seduction24/07/20 04:57 PM
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Get advice from your barber on what you can do with your hair. Long is fine, but from the way it is now, it just looks like you put 0 effort in it. Good stuff with updating your Tinder. With the party thing, yeah I feel that. It's pretty hard to get into frat parties if you aren't in a frat or if you don't have connections with people in the frat. But to be honest, being around frats are the easiest way to meet hot girls. Probably also the highest percentage of people who are more willing to be …
/r/seduction24/07/20 08:18 AM
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If it isn't a super serious job where workplace relations would be an issue, then just go for it? You established the chemistry is there and she is giving signs of attraction so it sounds pretty low risk to me
/r/seduction24/07/20 01:17 AM
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Wait like a day or two, then shoot her a text saying you are going to FT her so it doesn't seem like it's out of the blue and startles her since you haven't done that before yet.
/r/seduction24/07/20 01:13 AM
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Just keep being friends and hanging out with her, and slowly test the waters to see if she re-engages interest. If she was really that into you, there's the possibility she still has those feelings somewhere, but it's also just as equally as possible she nuked those feelings completely. I would just have the mindset with 0 expectations though
/r/seduction24/07/20 01:10 AM
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Agreed on the haircut thing. But anyway the most organic way, especially with COVID going on where cold approach is iffy depending on where you are and how relaxed (or I guess unrelaxed in this case) people are, is social circle game. Meeting people through your friends is advantageous because they have less of a guard because your friend is inherently vouching for you just on the premise you are friends with them. Unfortunately college game is kinda fucked if no one is going to be on campus but…
/r/seduction24/07/20 01:06 AM
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Yeah you probably have to just take the L on this one buddy. You need to find the root of the issue of why you chicken out because it's clear she was down so maybe something like performance anxiety or something is what is holding you back. Or maybe just drink less or something?
/r/seduction24/07/20 01:00 AM
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I don't know these seem kinda weird to me. The first one just sounds super extreme. Like do friends not make you happy? Yeah I get the sentiment that you shouldn't view getting a relationship as trying to fill a void in your life but how you phrase it sounds like adding women to your life adds 0 value whatsoever. The statements in the second one seems conflicting. By saying "I am worthy of her" sounds like you are just putting her above you. Like just add one word and it becomes "I am worthy of …
/r/seduction23/07/20 06:10 PM
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Lmao that's oddly specific. But pretty much this happens when you have something already established with the girl and then you play hot and cold with her which makes her guess where your head's at in the relationship. For example say you are hooking up with this girl, and then the next time she sees you, she sees a hickey on your neck that wasn't from her. If this girl is looking for more of a long term relationship, then it's kind of threatened by you having other girls in the picture, so she …
/r/seduction23/07/20 05:01 PM
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Don't use your current situation as a current limiting belief. Although I think it's sometimes a good thing just to take a few months to sort your shit out before trying to get a girlfriend because it reduces distraction from setting good habits. But I wouldn't let that stop you from talking to women or just developing social skills in general. Not confident? Read a book about confidence and go out and apply the lessons from there (the application of the lessons from the book is arguably more im…
/r/seduction23/07/20 12:39 AM
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Like knows as a friend, or does she know you are romantically interested in her?
/r/seduction22/07/20 04:09 PM
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Simp behavior pretty much boils down to being needy (often because of scarcity), and thinking too much about a girl, especially how to please her. Its pretty synonymous, or at least the behaviors parallel with a "nice guy". Basically if you focus on yourself and have your own purpose, and then have the confidence to establish a romantic frame with women, then you are doing fine. Complimenting women is fine, but you shouldn't be showering her with compliments, and you should be genuinely be meani…
/r/seduction22/07/20 04:06 PM
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Depends on the person and how they take it. Also if someone keeps getting rejections and never changes anything, after awhile it probably will discourage you. But for most people getting desensitized to rejections and understand the frame that it isn't a problem because you guys just aren't a match and there's plenty of other girls out there is a good thing
/r/seduction21/07/20 08:56 PM
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Congrats on 100 approaches but I think you need to be actively thinking how you can get 1% better each day by reflecting what happened on each approach. 39 people is a decent amount of people who just straight up ignored you so maybe you need to think back to why they ended up ignoring you. Maybe how you approached the girl was bad, maybe the location wasn't optimal, ect. The other thing that sticks out is only 5 out of the 55 you got the phone number. Im guessing you didn't ask for the number m…
/r/seduction19/07/20 07:09 AM
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I mean it's already headed that way considering she described a romantic setting with both of you guys half naked lol. I think the other person's comment about the back rub is a pretty good one because it builds off of the proposed setting and it has a ton of implications.
/r/seduction18/07/20 09:49 AM
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Not necessarily because it can be a great starting place to bring up interesting stuff organically. Sometimes, maybe even many times it can end pretty dull if there's low commitment to the conversation or maybe they are just boring and stop at "my day was good"
/r/seduction18/07/20 09:47 AM
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Haha that is hilarious. But if you haven't read Models by Manson, it's pretty much the bible of this sub. I really liked Fundamentals of Female Dynamics by Michael Knight also. I'm someone who is very logical and the book explains things in a pretty logical frame which I easily resonated with
/r/seduction12/07/20 12:36 AM
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Short answer is yes height matters but there's always exceptions. Just because a girl is taller than you doesn't mean you are screwed. Some girls don't give a shit about height, other girls it will be a deal breaker if you aren't 6 foot+, other girls it will just be an uphill battle but still doable. The main point is just don't treat it as a limiting belief. You can't change your height so there's no point in feeling sorry about it
/r/seduction11/07/20 07:56 PM
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Wow you definitely hit the nail on the head with this one. I realized not going for what I want is my biggest sticking point, and I'm always going to be stuck in platonic relationships if I don't change this behavior. Definitely need to work on my intent
/r/seduction09/07/20 03:08 PM
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I mean I guess that's the point. You can try to increase your odds but at the end of the day it's the girls' choice who she ends up liking more and it's fine if that person doesnt end up being you. However at a certain point if it's NEVER you, then there is obviously issues.
/r/seduction09/07/20 02:02 AM
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Honestly this was a really long winded post that sums up to "focus on being the best version of yourself". This is always preached here, but I'm pretty puzzled how the seduction element is slowly being pushed out of the sub and be even rejected. Like seduction stuff isn't gimmicky anymore where you run a stupid routine or just neg girls a bunch of times, it's pretty much just an extension of social skills. Like there's a lot of parallels to sales. If someone wants to get good at sales you don't …
/r/seduction02/07/20 07:20 AM
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Wow really needed to read this. I couldn't pinpoint exactly what I needed to fix about how I converse with people, but the whole not manipulating reactions is exactly it. Thanks for this, it's going to take a lot of effort to have consistent changes but I think understanding the problem is the huge first step
/r/seduction22/06/20 07:21 AM
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the problem with being the "nice guy" is they play it too safe. And I'm not talking about the nice guy as in the one who gets salty about being rejected, I'm talking about the ones who just are genuinely are nice and playing a double agenda. I don't think you need to move along the douche continuum, it's just more important to be more assertive, especially with your feelings. That isn't an exclusive trait of douches, it's just was douches do more often than not
/r/seduction18/06/20 04:18 PM
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I feel like you are going to end up overgaming her because you are too caught up in tactics. Like at this point you don't need to be so rigid on attraction theory and you should just treat this girl like someone you are interested in before she is the one who loses interest from the games you are playing
/r/seduction27/05/20 08:19 PM
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Never thought I would see a wholesome story on this sub haha
/r/seduction21/05/20 09:07 PM
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Well how could you say the community fucked you up when you yourself recognize Models being known as the gold standard here. A lot of techniques are gimmicky but a lot of them are stuff that other guys naturally do, and others have to aquire that skill. Like push pull is a pretty solid one as long as you use it as a playful tease and not trying to try hard and do pretty insulting negs. Techniques are meant to act as tools in your toolshed to help progress you because there's times like being you…
/r/seduction19/05/20 02:19 AM
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Move on because she isn't invested at all and you even know this yourself. But also how could you say "she's really interesting" to begin with lol
/r/seduction22/04/20 03:30 PM
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Lol just leaving and not replying is bad not only because it shows how unconfident you are, but it also seems super rude. Like imagine how she felt after she did that and you just dipped Instead of saying "idk why I did that" you probably should be honest with yourself and figure out why you actually did that
/r/seduction22/04/20 03:24 PM
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Your answer is actually in your own post. You don't have many female friends so start making more Easier said than done for some people but that's the true solution and there's a reason why the abundance mentality is preached here
/r/seduction14/04/20 06:18 PM
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Yeah the "I'll let you know" just gave me flashbacks haha. Good thing I stopped talking to this one girl who kept doing that a long time ago. When you find someone who really wants to keep seeing you it is a whole different world but also you have to be grounded and not become needy
/r/seduction07/03/20 08:20 AM
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Dating apps, bars, college clubs.
/r/seduction07/02/20 07:40 PM
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I think Todd is good at what he does because he has been doing it for years. At some point just by experience you are bound to reach a level of mastery. Of course he isn't going to score with every girl, but I absolutely believe he embodies what Models teaches. Im not saying we go back to gimmicks but I do think there is a higher level to game than just the basics. Advanced to me means understand how to masterfully navigate under many different scenerios and really internalize how attraction is …
/r/seduction25/01/20 01:52 AM
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Lol damn after that penginz0 video got popular now people are trashing Todd
/r/seduction20/01/20 03:43 AM
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If it's like minigolf then take another girl and take a picture of you guys minigolfing and then send it to her and say "minigolfing was fun". Just replace minigolf with whatever activity you planned. In all seriousness don't do this (although I guess you could do it but instead just post it on your story instead because she will still see it) and just wait for her to respond. If she doesn't respond by a reasonable time tommorrow then have a backup plan with friends or even another girl. If she …
/r/seduction17/01/20 02:26 AM
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Search up the cube Neil Strauss. Someone posted a link near the top of the thread of the routine
/r/seduction14/01/20 04:51 PM
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I think the most helpful thing for me is figuring out how to build a social circle from scratch that has a healthy ratio of guys and girls
/r/seduction11/01/20 07:05 PM
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I've seen it go both ways but more often than not you shouldn't be asking because you should be continually building comfortability with a girl where even if she rejects the kiss you can hold frame and not make it a big deal. Asking could be better depending on the girl, but I'm not sure if you can easily identify the types of girls you should be asking before you should make a move so I would ways default to not asking
/r/seduction31/12/19 10:09 AM
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That’s like saying anyone who recommends to read Models is a marketing post
/r/seduction31/12/19 10:03 AM
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That’s expensive lol
/r/seduction24/12/19 06:23 PM
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I think studying theory has its merits but a lot of people aren’t looking to become a pickup god at the level of like Todd V, and they probably would be satisfied in an area where you wouldn’t even need to understand all these techniques. Like you said, confidence and banter is pretty much enough and that comes through experience. Pickup theory fine tunes elements of that, but at its core I think understand your own style of game through experience is probably more effective as long as you are s…
/r/seduction18/12/19 09:20 AM
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Practice. You understand theory but the only thing that matters is getting the real world experience on the application of the skills you read about. Yeah shit might suck but it gets easier. Like social skills are a skill like anything else. Some people just suck at things but with enough action it gets easier. Like think about it like learning in school, you may not get calculus at first but after repeatedly doing problems over and over again you master it
/r/seduction12/12/19 05:40 AM
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Damn this was a truth bomb. I definitely fall into the boyfriend vibe but I definitely think I have improved and fixed a lot of the behaviors compared to like a year ago. Still have a lot of room to go but this helps roadmap the person I should strive to be.
/r/seduction12/12/19 04:37 AM
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He had me at "asking interview questions"
/r/seduction04/12/19 05:40 PM
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Love that book and this passage. Really opened my eyes before but I think sadly I'm still falling into oneitis again because I fall under two of the symptoms. At least it isn't all of them like a year ago lol
/r/seduction26/11/19 05:29 PM
1

Then get a haircut?
/r/seduction22/11/19 08:19 PM
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Ah gotcha that adds more context. In that case yeah I would probably just move on but I'm proud of you for giving the effort and having a good mentality in the end
/r/seduction22/11/19 05:59 PM
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Why the huge gap between the first meet up and second meet up?
/r/seduction22/11/19 04:59 PM
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Agree with all of this, especially the Crazy Stupid Love scene. I would focus on watching videos that describe building a basic wardrobe and once you got that down, look at the YouTuber's look books to find what your style is. Teaching men's fashion has great videos to start from and then start looking at Alex Costa's lookbooks. Then later move on to One Dapper Street's stuff because he has a wide variety of styles and see what resonates with you the most. Also look up the Basic Bastard on Reddi…
/r/seduction20/11/19 07:23 PM
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Are all girls going to let you down easy? No. Are all girls going to be mean when they reject you? No. More often than not the rejection isn't going to be mean, you are just going to get a no thanks/I have a boyfriend/ect. Either way it should never matter what they say to you if you have a solid foundation. Now onto cold approach. It just depends what you consider a win is. If you are only getting numbers or even dates 1% of the time then you have some issues with the approach itself.
/r/seduction20/11/19 06:36 AM
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Talk to other girls. The only cure for scarcity
/r/seduction20/11/19 06:30 AM
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They moved on to self help because it's less controversial in mainstream media and they probably hit an even bigger market.
/r/seduction31/10/19 03:01 PM
1

Hahaha oh no I should have seen this the other day when I pussied out asking her out
/r/seduction30/10/19 06:20 PM
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It's fine for beginners just to get used to express feelings but in general you want to make everything feel natural and the admission that you like a girl directly to her gives a lot of power away. So it's always better for actions to speak louder than words but it's probably way worse if she doesn't you like her because you aren't giving the right non verbal communication
/r/seduction24/10/19 02:53 PM
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What part of the post was canned? Sure the I am grateful part but the most important part is the compliment and that's not a canned line. The tweet literally said give a sincere compliment.
/r/seduction23/10/19 06:20 AM
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I like this variation but as a guy thats inexperienced I would be exposed lol
/r/seduction19/10/19 03:19 AM
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As in the subreddit or the pick up community? Nothing's going to happen to the subreddit but in terms of the pickup community in general, the public probably won't see a lot of infields anymore that are free. RSD is for sure not returning to pick up, but maybe coaches just move their content to a different platform, if not it's just going to be behind a paywall
/r/seduction11/10/19 06:11 PM
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Austen Summers took down all infield related stuff yesterday. It's kinda crazy because I was watching some of the stuff yesterday and I looked this morning and it's all gone. Kinda interesting what is happening to everyone
/r/seduction11/10/19 04:12 PM
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I mean yeah obviously you have to bring something to the table. You either reach or settle and no one wants to settle. But you both can be reaching because value is established in different ways. Guys are probably more shallow then girls more often than not and their value is getting an attractive partner in terms of like physical attraction. Women obviously have to be physically attracted to you in some degree, but emotional attraction plays a more powerful role and you can be like a 7 and she'…
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:27 AM
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It's literally one text lol. Pretty shitty to jump to conclusions about interest. Like sure it's not the most engaging conversation but it's a smallest sample size you could get that you would be a fool for making any assumptions and sikeing yourself out
/r/seduction10/10/19 09:31 PM
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Natural game because when you practice technical stuff they become natural and its like a tool in your toolshed
/r/seduction09/10/19 03:56 PM
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That was probably one of the most creepiest conversations I have ever read. Who the heck opens with that even as regular conversation to a stranger.
/r/seduction09/10/19 03:55 PM
1

I know Simple Pickup got mainstream attention back in the day. I'll watch this one after work but I'm not surprised pick up is being shown in negative light in mainstream culture. But imagine if it's how pickup was in the early 2000s because from what I gather it was all about these canned lines instead of today where I feel like the paradigm is just trying to live an attractive lifestyle and for everything to feel natural.
/r/seduction07/10/19 06:34 PM
2

Well you never know unless you try
/r/seduction04/10/19 05:52 AM
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I think there's a pretty big distinction in using it as a flex versus it being congruent with your normal life. Because if you think about it, if a girl estimates your value based on your stories and then you hang out in real life, if those stuff were just infrequent highlights and your life is actually boring then it causes a lot of problems. So basically in order for this to effective, you actually have to have a cool life. Now assuming that requirement is met I read something here about using…
/r/seduction04/10/19 05:50 AM
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Your thinking seems like you are way too needy. Doing that time analysis on texts and then trying to overthink on the word "think" is super dumb. There's no harm in following up and making plans. Just place your own date and time and see how she responds. If she says she is busy, don't bend backward to try to find a time that works for her. A good sign is if she is busy but then offers an alternative. But if she just says she is busy and that's it, optimally you should just be hitting up other g…
/r/seduction04/10/19 05:35 AM
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Leave it be imo. She doesn't sound interested. I had similar responses from this girl recently and I'll keep the option open in the chance she hits me up but I'm pretty much moved on.
/r/seduction04/10/19 01:40 AM
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You didn't/still don't eat enough lol. It's that simple. You aren't a special anomaly. And then I bet you are going to insist you did, but if you ate at a caloric surplus you would at least gain weight, no questions asked
/r/seduction03/10/19 04:41 AM
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??? Or slow bulk and lift?
/r/seduction03/10/19 03:54 AM
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Well 130lb at 6 feet is objectively skinny. Even at 145 at 5'9 I am still looking to be in the 160 range in a year or two
/r/seduction03/10/19 03:32 AM
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3% man is going to be similar to Models on it pretty much focuses a lot on inner game side on what traits/qualities/characteristics make up an attractive guy
/r/seduction03/10/19 01:15 AM
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please don't do this. The first step is to throw away the letter. Also at the end you said "let me no either way". Was that a Freudian slip or something lmao For a more helpful breakdown, the letter approach is just wrong because 1) it shows you have no confidence, 2) the contents are full of excuses and 3) you sound like a snob when you say stuff like "I have been longing to have an intellectual conversation to someone". Inner game probably would be a big first step for you, and just overall le…
/r/seduction03/10/19 12:27 AM
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Excellent post, and this is something that started to click with me recently. I think the last point also ties a lot into scarcity vs abundance because if you are only talking to like 1 girl, a lot of times you are afraid to disagree because the idea of losing her makes you go from 1 to 0.
/r/seduction03/10/19 12:17 AM
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Isn't that because it inherently is easier and less risky. You require a lot less effort because social circle game gives you a base level of social proof while cold approach you build from the ground up
/r/seduction25/09/19 02:11 AM
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I dig the banter. Nice work
/r/seduction23/09/19 06:31 AM
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How I Met Your Mother
/r/seduction21/09/19 05:04 PM
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I realized how true this is but I feel like this kinda the catch 22 for beginners. But I guess after you get over the initial hardship everything gets a lot easier
/r/seduction18/09/19 03:10 PM
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Lmao glad it went well and I think you are just joking but if you aren't, careful with getting attached too fast. It makes you super needy and can kill attraction
/r/seduction01/09/19 03:46 AM
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I really needed this tonight. Thanks so much for sharing
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:29 AM
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Then be that exception
/r/seduction19/05/19 05:09 AM
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Girls talk to a lot of guys. Especially in college sorority girls are very social, and there probably is a mix of girls who are flakey, move on to the next guy pretty easy, cheaters, but you can't tell just by how much they use snapchat.
/r/seduction18/05/19 08:00 PM
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I mean if you are bothered that she uses Snapchat a lot, then sure? I don't really see the issue when Snapchat is extremely popular
/r/seduction17/05/19 10:35 PM
1

So literally every "dating coach" or every dating content creator?
/r/seduction05/05/19 10:52 AM
1

You look exactly the same. But I don't really understand if you are that insecure about it, why don't you just update the photos?
/r/seduction03/05/19 06:34 PM
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I mean I guess it could depend on the area. You can get away with a suit if you are in New York and if you have a job that would make sense for you to wear a suit. If it's just a random city go casual but still keep in mind style.
/r/seduction15/04/19 10:09 AM
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I feel the whole acne thing. I started getting bad acne when I started working out and my body improved a shit ton but I was embarassed about my face and now my back because I have kinda bad bacne too. Overall I did realize there are these guys with really bad acne and they still get hot girls. Looks isn't as important as you may think, and it only becomes important when its clear you are insecure about yourself. I'm on accutane now and my acne is getting a lot better, but I've had it for awhile…
/r/seduction13/04/19 04:32 AM
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Honestly OP speaks the hard truth. You can read all the theory in the world but 80% of newbies who have trouble never tried approaching and don't practice. They think they need to get everything perfect so they don't fail, when the journey of pickup is often failing. I don't think OPs proposed rule would work since it's not feasible to enforce and it's just too much work, but I don't see him as the gatekeeper. People are just gatekeeping themselves from game by not approaching
/r/seduction06/04/19 11:29 PM
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Number is probably better BUT there are perks to Instagram or Snapchat if you are using it efficiently (posting good stories daily). If you aren't invested in social media then number is 100% better
/r/seduction05/04/19 06:03 PM
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You see the IOIs, someone else also recognized the IOIs, so just go for it. If you are scared then just think about the regret of not doing anything because that regret is 100% worse than rejection.
/r/seduction18/03/19 10:32 PM
1

Talk to the (few) single women around you in those enviornments? Not quite sure what else you could do But if you are in a frat your social life should be covered pretty nicely
/r/seduction18/03/19 10:30 PM
1

Yeah if it's a job like a cashier.
/r/seduction17/03/19 07:28 PM
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That movie really played a big role in turning my life around. I didn't truly live out that philosophy of saying yes until a couple of months after I watched the movie, but it really got me open to the idea of exploring stuff outside my comfort zone
/r/seduction17/03/19 03:38 AM
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An example of direct is "hey I thought you were cute and I wanted to say hi". Direct is inherently more riskier but the benefit is that you establish the premise of the interaction off the bat. An indirect opener is like "hey you have nice style", or an even more indirect opener is "do you know where the nearest Starbucks is". Indirect is safer because you are taking less risk of rejection but you have to eventually shift the frame that you are talking to her because you are interested in her la…
/r/seduction16/03/19 10:45 AM
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Yeah so basically show her your social proof with other girls and you will be able to restructure the previous frame to more of a man to woman interaction because she is able to see you differently. A lot of fair points here in understanding the psychology of game, but I think bottomline actively trying to get out of the friendzone is in itself is needy. But the whole abundance mentality is something you should be doing regardless, so the whole escaping the friendzone thing should really just be…
/r/seduction14/03/19 05:20 AM
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I probably would have cried or something if I watched this about a year ago. I was pretty broken before. My self image was shit and I constantly felt lost. I've came a long way in just a year and I know I have a lot more room to grow but this still resonates with me because there's a certain aspect about myself I know I want to change but something isn't clicking and I'm getting frustrated with my lack of progress in that area. I think it's super important to accept for who you are in the curren…
/r/seduction14/03/19 05:06 AM
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The fear is that it's not super normal to cold approach because you don't see people doing it frequently. But idk why you are saying you are shown backlash and then can't come up with an example and just admitted that there probably is no backlash in the first place. Like not only the comment wasn't helpful, but you could have caused people to not cold approach because they believed you
/r/seduction08/03/19 11:55 PM
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Well good social media > low social media > no social media And you don't just go from bad to good overnight, it takes awhile to build up your profile. As long as you maintain a close to 1:1 ratio it's fine. You don't have to use it as a pickup tool right away too. It's kinda like an artists portfolio, you build it up to a point where it's presentable But that being said, it's just a tool and if people don't like it there's no problem with not using it. However I think something like Snapchat ca…
/r/seduction03/03/19 01:14 AM
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A lot of good information here. A word of caution for beginners though about the platonic thing (and this is coming from myself who is also a beginner but is an observation I made). I would focus on making sure that you are establishing a flirty/sexual frame as first priority or else if you start doing the platonic stuff without conveying a man-to-woman interaction, you are actively friendzoning yourself. After you get that fundamental down just about frame, the tips by OP really help in her cha…
/r/seduction02/03/19 06:09 AM
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That's the shittiest mentality ever lol. That's definitely not what people preach around here
/r/seduction02/03/19 01:04 AM
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It's cringe because you had to make up the girls the repsonse. Go field test it and get back to us
/r/seduction26/02/19 07:43 PM
1

I think what some people do is call the number but hang up before it even rings as soon as you get the number so it logs in your phone log. Then you have a chronological list of the numbers you got. Or you can just write notes in their contact page after you meet them and jot stuff about them so you can reference later.
/r/seduction25/02/19 05:57 AM
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Because sometimes Accutane is pretty much the best path. I never got acne but in college I started to get acne and it got pretty bad and now I'm on Accutane. I'm so happy I went on it because it's the only thing that helped me after trying so many different skin care routines
/r/seduction17/02/19 05:06 PM
5

It's a really fun and entertaining book but I don't really know how much it applies to seduction these days when the "meta" is Models by Manson
/r/seduction16/02/19 11:26 PM
2

Yeah but Tinder is way different for women lol
/r/seduction29/01/19 07:25 PM
3

Well is this actually a date or did you just offer to take pictures of her for her Instagram. That's 2 completely different things lol
/r/seduction29/01/19 07:23 PM
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Well she already said she sees you more as a friend. If you are constantly getting hurt by not being with her then don't talk to her. But if you start talking to other girls then you will get over the crush on her and can still maintain the friendship if you valued the friendship in the first place. It's pretty hard to get out of the friendzone and often times it really isn't worth the effort. It sounds like you have oneitis so I would go with just not talking with her and start moving on
/r/seduction29/01/19 07:20 PM
1

You should just broadcast the infields live. People on twitch would eat that up
/r/seduction29/01/19 06:01 AM
2

Uhh I don't think the classroom is the place to be all sexual. Get their number and go on a date and be sexual with them there.
/r/seduction29/01/19 06:00 AM
1

You posted this like a month ago here wtf. Stop being so insecure
/r/seduction27/01/19 05:06 PM
3

It sounds like you are having a mental breakdown or some shit because you are unable to monetize from pickup
/r/seduction27/01/19 05:04 PM
1

Where exactly in the OP does it suggest to be a dick to women? It's pretty much saying nice guys play it safe and don't lead
/r/seduction23/01/19 11:08 PM
1

So I take it you don't have braces currently but thinking of getting them? At this age you might want to consider Invisalign instead so it doesn't look like you have braces. It's more expensive but I think it's getting cheaper these days because it's such a popular option now
/r/seduction15/01/19 01:50 PM
1

Well another problem is that he literally lives with the husband so there's a lot to risk here than if he just met her at a bar or something.
/r/seduction15/01/19 01:48 PM
0

Pick up lmao But a more serious answer is lifting weights, rec sports, you could try learning internet marketing which is an interesting hobby because it also can make you money, dance classes, idk the world is your oyster. The more social the hobby is, the more that would help you so the dance classes and rec sports are two of my top ones
/r/seduction14/01/19 10:42 PM
2

RSD is a business at the end of the day and I think a big reason why some people who aren't having success despite paying so much money for their products is that they aren't putting in the actual work to get out of their comfort zone and take action. You can read a bunch of books or watch hundreds of hours of pickup content but that won't make you a pickup artist until you experience thousands of hours in the field. I like RSD Max and some of his videos but they are honestly way too long and yo…
/r/seduction14/01/19 09:45 PM
2

I don't understand your point. You are friendzoned by women you want to date but they don't like you back. If you are consistently being friendzoned then I can definitively say that you are doing something wrong and saying that you respect only being friends with them as an excuse to compensate for "failure". You have to stop trying to be friends with girls you are trying to date because that's pretty much the path to the friendzone which is why guys are the usually the ones that friendzone them…
/r/seduction14/01/19 05:44 PM
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If you were getting laid with Tinder before then you probably shouldn't have that big of an issue now. People do say they have a worse experience now because Tinder is turning "pay to win", but you are paying soooo... Unless your attractiveness decreased then not sure what to tell you.
/r/seduction14/01/19 08:44 AM
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Honestly not the worst situation when it comes to the friendzone. You have to show her that you actually are interested in her sexually rather than just platonically, so escalate. You have to calibrate how fast you change her mind that you are just a platonic friend based on when you see her. Because there was a large gap and some time of losing connection, it's possible that this is a clean slate and you can escalate things faster. But if she still just considers you as a friend and lost attrac…
/r/seduction14/01/19 08:39 AM
1

Maybe start at the coffee place and then suggest to just take the coffee to go and go for a walk and then you could sit on a bench or something. There probably is more opportunity since you remove the physical barrier of a table, and it opens other avenues to escalate
/r/seduction13/01/19 10:12 PM
1

In a cold approach situation, what would be the ideal opener and then what should guys be talking about with you?
/r/seduction08/01/19 03:03 PM
1

Uh what? I think you misunderstand what oneitis is. It's not when both people are attracted to each other or else this dude wouldn't be having a problem
/r/seduction05/01/19 04:07 AM
7

lmao it seems like this post was made just so this guy can profit from selling other people's content smh
/r/seduction03/01/19 09:54 PM
2

Simple things like this make my day lmao
/r/seduction03/01/19 04:39 AM
4

I got a sample of this and I really like this one.
/r/seduction07/11/18 07:16 PM
45

Take action and don't fall for the common excuse that's pretty much comes down to "I'll start doing x when y happens" (e.g. I'll start cold approach as soon as I start hitting the gym consistently). There's no better experience than practice
/r/seduction05/11/18 09:20 PM
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Well if I could guess she maybe intially thought it was going to be a creepy interaction (this doesn't necessarily have to do anything with you) at the very start but then you proved her wrong. Not many people approach girls, and those who do are usually like homeless people or petitioners or something, so it also could be bad past experiences before. Regardless what it is it doesn't really matter because she has some interest in you and that's what matters most at the end of the day. If you wan…
/r/seduction05/11/18 06:28 PM
1

I can relate to this a little too much. But yeah after I got the third excuse I stopped trying to hang out. She ended up hitting me up because I think she felt bad for being flakey but I was already over it and moved on
/r/seduction05/11/18 05:51 PM
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Either she has had so many terrible experiences or maybe you referenced about being creepy earlier in the conversation or something. Seems pretty random just to say that
/r/seduction05/11/18 05:49 PM
2

What else should you put in your bio
/r/seduction04/11/18 05:21 PM
2

So because ONE guy who high fives has trouble doing anything after that, it invalidates the whole approach for everyone? ???
/r/seduction01/11/18 05:47 PM
7

Todd Valentine has solid videos I don't even think most videos have that aggressive vibe except for like RSD Tyler infields. RSD Max seems to have decent content but his videos are so long and I don't have time to sit through them. You might as well just practice and get experience than just watch hours of content at that point
/r/seduction30/10/18 05:36 AM
2

Practice
/r/seduction25/10/18 09:45 PM
2

Todd's The System is a pretty good for fundamentals with day game and night game. I know RSD Luke focuses all about social circle game but never tried any of his products, I only watch some of his YT videos. I did buy The System and I think it's pretty good
/r/seduction23/10/18 08:15 PM
1

In college a lot of people you meet are people you see often, aka class and clubs. The article was pretty specific about this type of approach for situations where you will see them again. Just walking around campus then you treat approaches just like any day game cold approach.
/r/seduction22/10/18 09:36 AM
1

Trim your facial hair and go to a barber (not great clips, like an actual barber) and get suggestions. Or research a better hairstyle based on your shape of your head. The modern haircuts are "short on sides, long on top", but you have pretty short hair so you might want to consider to start growing it out. There's a lot more you can do when you start growing out your hair. Style is not that difficult to fix if you put in the effort, although it's pretty daunting at first because there's a lot o…
/r/seduction20/10/18 07:17 PM
2

Instead of shooting her you would try recreating one of those movie scenes where you take a bullet for her lmao
/r/seduction20/10/18 03:10 AM
4

Based Zeus, Alpha M, Tripp Advice, Angrypicnic Angrypicnic is a prank YouTuber I believe but honestly these guys show how confidence is pretty much the key to success. Check out Steven Schapiro and ThatWasEpic for inspiration of approaches.
/r/seduction20/10/18 03:09 AM
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For #1 look up u/dailymanup 's College Approach guide. This is the more optimal situation since you build rapport before going for the number close which will give you a really high success rate
/r/seduction20/10/18 03:04 AM
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You really need to look at who you are replying to because its not the same person who is saying most guys won't make the cut. But honestly the dude is right that a lot of dudes won't make the cut in attracting the really hot club girls because the fact of the matter is that most guys aren't high value enough for them. These girls have so many options that just because you dress nice and lift, doesn't set you close to being what other guys can bring to the table. But I am talking like 9s and 10s…
/r/seduction19/10/18 07:33 PM
1

Well I think how they look (like physically) should be your main concern first of all. Style isn't hard to replicate, and you are better off just developing your own style
/r/seduction19/10/18 04:47 PM
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Lmao this happened to me like a year ago and I gave the worst response because of my severe lack of experience with women and it was before I understood the rules of attraction. I actually don't know what I would say now, but I probably would go with it and playfully say that we are in love because the girl in my scenerio would have found it funny and probably would dig the confidence. The most optimal thing probably is some push-pull line where it makes it like she would have to win you over fo…
/r/seduction05/10/18 04:44 PM
1

This is like an applicable version of The Bachelor lmao
/r/seduction04/10/18 03:24 PM
4

This just seems like the wrong idea all around the board. Why would you instantly want to shoot yourself in the foot with a girl when there's an opportunity to be friends with benefits or something. But sure, if that doesn't work out then yeah access the benefits of her introducing you to others, but there's no reason to close the door with the original girl right off the bat.
/r/seduction01/10/18 05:47 PM
1

I always enjoy your content and this one is no different but I do think there is a stipulation to the whole filling the gap. If you are just looking to get laid then this method works great, but if you are looking to attract a girlfriend then the idea of filling in a gap becomes problematic if the thing you are trying to fill isn't currently in your own frame. You can fake whatever characteristic but sooner or later she will eventually see right through it. But I do see no problem in the scenari…
/r/seduction30/09/18 05:06 PM
0

You know there's different levels of nice guys. The trade mark nice guy uses being nice as a commodity because they think being nice will get them something back. Now there are genuine nice guys who are unconditionally nice, but the problem is that they often are still just people pleasers who have no boundaries and generate no attraction with women. If you can be a genuine nice guy but mix in seductive characteristics then you are golden
/r/seduction30/09/18 04:38 PM
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Just go on YouTube for fashion. Streetwear and malefashionadvice often goes to the most extreme ends of fashion. But for those just starting and have no close where to start the Basic Bastard guide on malefashionadvice is pretty good. Teaching Mens Fashion, Alex Costa and One Dapper Street are YouTubers I watch for lookbooks and stuff. Also Instagram is good to see good fits
/r/seduction29/09/18 04:25 PM
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It's the half truth. The other half is a huge part you are not addressing. He isn't generating attraction because he isn't taking risks and showing that he likes her in a way more than friends. He can make himself more attractive through inner game but it doesn't fully compensate for the lack of game
/r/seduction18/09/18 02:22 AM
3

Lol Creed Aventus is honestly pretty overrated. You don't need to spend $300 on cologne. A lot of what OP suggested is perfectly fine
/r/seduction18/09/18 01:29 AM
2

Why would not being able to have a 100% success rate suddenly not qualify it as a skill? Or just because there's cases where things fall in line neatly, you suddenly disregard all the other cases where you have to put in effort to push things forward?
/r/seduction17/09/18 06:18 PM
1

I don't get what people want this sub to be. Like people claim Models is this sub's Bible but you have a bunch of people whining about the content of the sub when it seems like their real issue is with the new paradigm of pick up. I remember I read a post not too long ago about how someone missed when the sub was supposedly filled with tricks and scripts on how to game women and it would work pretty consistently but from my understanding pickup became heavily invested into congruency of someone'…
/r/seduction17/09/18 07:50 AM
2

I can relate to this so much and it truly is liberating because I felt so boxed in by these absurd expectation of myself and it was so tolling on my mental health. Glad I am finally escaping
/r/seduction11/09/18 03:55 PM
1

Well yeah of you just say hang out then she can easily interpret that as a friend thing. Just say date so it's clear you want to be MORE than friends
/r/seduction07/09/18 06:34 PM
1

Well you eventually will be friendzoned if nothing is happening
/r/seduction05/09/18 04:49 AM
7

Can you explain why?
/r/seduction30/08/18 11:30 PM
1

Hey man I really enjoy your articles. I just have one question though. With the philosophy about not trying to close, I find that an issue for large universities where the campus is so huge that you might not find the person you met again. Doing that strategy in class makes sense since you know where they will be, but just like cold approaching randomly in campus, would you suggest to get something like their snap or insta at the end of the first interaction?
/r/seduction25/08/18 11:24 PM
1

I mean there's a balance. The point is that most nice guys are pushovers and spineless which your boyfriend doesn't fall under. He is a nice guy who doesn't necessarily expect something back because he is nice. The nice guys described in the posts are people who use being nice as a commodity (I'm nice to you so you should be my girlfriend, have sex with me, ect). Now your exes are on the complete other end of the spectrum where they don't care all. So all in all the lesson is don't be an asshole…
/r/seduction17/08/18 09:45 PM
3

Read the book No More Mr Nice Guy
/r/seduction17/08/18 09:00 PM
3

Step 1: read free resources. Step 2: talk to women Step 3: talk to even more women
/r/seduction14/08/18 09:12 PM
2

That sub helped changed my life and I'm only 3-4 months in. Highly recommend
/r/seduction14/08/18 08:58 PM
3

Good for you man. I wasn't a huge fan of the last message because I felt that can be interpreted as pretty harsh, but I struggled to find a replacement that is just as strong. I think maybe taking out the "I have plenty of friends" is better because it sounds snarky and it doesn't add any value or meaning to the message
/r/seduction11/08/18 08:18 PM
1

The Game seems more oriented to be entertaining than anything. At the end, the author himself turns very critical to the pickup depicted in the book, but with that being said it being a waste of time is pretty subjective. If the goal was to learn more about pickup, then there's better books out there, but I would recommend The Game just because it was a fun read
/r/seduction11/08/18 08:05 PM
2

I think he is spot on with genuinely becoming a more confident person and not just trying to emulate being high value. In terms of the comments to learning game from PUAs, the paradigm of game is pretty much exactly what he is preaching these days, and I guess outsiders still think of pickup as depicted in books like "The Game" by Strauss. Pick up was definitely very gimmicky oriented and it probably does eventually lead to genuine confidence, but now you see a huge emphasis on establishing that…
/r/seduction11/08/18 07:47 PM
2

Lol at 145 pounds there's no way you are eating 6000 calories for maintenance because if really were eating 6000 calories you would just get super fat. You realize 6000 calories is what pro body builders eat right? At your weight and height you would only need around 2500 calories. I really doubt you are some medical anomaly, and I'm more inclined to think you track calories very very very poorly to estimate 6000 calories a day
/r/seduction06/08/18 12:47 AM
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High metabolism is pretty BS and doesn't make as big of an impact as many people think. Making your own food isn't going to come out to $1000 a month, so it just sounds like you are making a ton of excuses
/r/seduction05/08/18 07:37 PM
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The upside to being short is if you workout then you will see results a lot faster
/r/seduction05/08/18 07:35 PM
1

If $200 is a lot then I would say the program is more of a luxury and you can stick with free content. I have the program and I haven't gone too deep into it, but I would say the program isn't necessary to go from absolute beginner to intermediate. The program will definitely help you get there faster, but if you just go out and talk to women, you will make progress without paying $200.
/r/seduction04/08/18 03:15 AM
2

I'm too ugly for anywhere on Earth 😭
/r/seduction03/08/18 09:20 PM
1

How do newbies keep a flirtatious vibe that is natural. Because I feel like for beginners they have to consciously keep in mind to flirt so it eventually become natural/first hand nature, or else they just play it safe and it turns more of a friend thing than a date
/r/seduction27/07/18 07:34 PM
6

I don't think you know what an incel is
/r/seduction27/07/18 02:41 AM
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Your first priority needs to be self esteem. How are you going to attract others if you don't even like yourself.
/r/seduction13/07/18 06:00 PM
6

Models by Manson for a lot of people I guess. But to me, seduction has been shifting from Mystery Method style where you have specific sets and "tricks" to get laid and now it's a lot more natural game. That's why I think a lot of veterans think this subreddit specifically is a shell of it's old self and is really just an extension of r/socialskills at this point. Personally it doesn't bother me because I'm a beginner myself but thats just my perspective of things
/r/seduction09/07/18 04:09 PM
3

Yeah introverts CAN do this, but I think the point is that it's just pretty tiring for introverts because the whole introvert vs extrovert thing isn't about how social you are, it's about where you get your energy from. Introverts recharge when they are alone in their own space, and being in the center of all the action is where their energy is drained. So in general extroverts would have better milage because this is where they thrive and can keep it going all day
/r/seduction27/06/18 03:01 PM
1

Stop reading books and just get real world experience and learn what works for YOU. You are just going to get caught up in trying to apply all these different things from gurus, and sometimes ideas conflict. Just because they conflict doesn't necessarily mean one is wrong because different people have different philosophies.
/r/seduction26/06/18 01:55 AM
3

Seems more like it's more of a good mentality to have even if it isn't actually true.
/r/seduction25/06/18 12:27 AM
3

People keep debating this but I think the actual answer is that both works and just do what works better for you.
/r/seduction13/06/18 06:10 AM
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Maybe you are taking too much information and trying to apply them all at once and you create this internal checklist that you keep trying to satisfy which makes the conversation seem kind of ingenuine. Just focus on one thing at a time to improve on in conversations and it could be just simply reflecting at the end rather than worrying if you are applying it correctly in the moment
/r/seduction23/05/18 05:31 PM
13

I kinda do see his point because these videos could get into people's head for people who are already pretty anxious about this. They develop a checklist of things and it turns way too scripted rather than just being natural. The best way to learn is to do it yourself as always, but with that being said I don't think the video is actually pointless because I'm sure there's people who really appreciate it and are able to learn from it
/r/seduction17/04/18 08:14 PM
1

I think Todd's point is that the super direct approach is pretty good for people new to the game because it builds up their confidence to say whats on their mind and not fear the response. However, after you are accustom to the game, direct approach becomes less useful and developed game will take advantage of indirect approach PUAs probably cater a lot to the new audience which is why you see them giving that advice all the time. But yeah this whole experience is about experimenting and just do…
/r/seduction17/04/18 07:54 PM
3

I guess this pretty much affirms what the guy who summarized Todd's video was saying. You have to be equally attractive as the girl for direct, because if you are not then it becomes a crutch because it frames it very one sided. Maybe you should try a little less direct approach about complimenting a specific thing about them rather than just the generic blanket statement you are hot/cute. Apparently that is still suboptimal because according to the video intent should be through actions and not…
/r/seduction17/04/18 06:57 PM
1

It's probably not fake lol. A lot of YouTubers go to college campuses to record videos and obviously they only show the good clips, but there are tons of footage they have that's not interesting or successful. BigDaws is probably one of the biggest YouTubers who records at ASU sometimes and the stuff he does isn't fake.
/r/seduction17/04/18 06:32 PM
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Lol the first video is at ASU which is where I go to school. Honestly it's such a prime place for meeting girls because the school is so huge but I'm still a huge pussy and I'm already at the end of my Sophemore year. Hopefully by next semester I live it up
/r/seduction17/04/18 01:03 AM
2

Lol it's not shady, it's just how online businesses work. They like to build their email lists, but you actually do get something useful at least
/r/seduction11/04/18 06:19 PM
3

Watch some Bob Ross and paint some happy little trees
/r/seduction05/04/18 05:51 AM
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Jeesh this man has a phD in Tinder-nomics
/r/seduction02/04/18 03:38 PM
1

Thanks for the share, it honestly really puts the idea of the friendzone really well and what it actually is
/r/seduction10/03/18 07:51 PM
4

How are any of them weird? What's your favorite place you traveled to, what's your favorite book (except the ones listed have a slight modification) are weird questions?
/r/seduction16/02/18 12:47 AM
1

But how do I know you are telling the truth 🤔
/r/seduction04/02/18 09:35 AM
3

For approaching strangers what's a simple or basic thing to follow up after "hi how are you" (or should I not even open with that at all)? In class I could make a comment about the class itself but what about in more general scenarios?
/r/seduction03/02/18 07:06 AM
2

Then how do you feel good about yourself? I would say usually you don't just wake up and everything magically changes. Books are a guide, and it's no different than a counselor telling you how to feel good about yourself.
/r/seduction02/02/18 08:14 PM
2

Library Genesis
/r/seduction02/02/18 08:10 PM
1

is it just me or is your website down?
/r/seduction01/02/18 07:40 PM
3

The Game is more of a fun read more than anything. Models is a solid book that focuses on fundamentals rather than just straight pick up.
/r/seduction29/01/18 05:58 PM
3

I think you should worry about your self game first. Learn to be happy with yourself and make some solid friends along the way. When you have confidence in yourself it's infinitely more attractive
/r/seduction14/01/18 03:53 PM
1

Even if people say yes it really doesn't matter. Stop trying to get validation from others because that just shows weak self confidence and self worth. Start changing your perception of yourself
/r/seduction24/12/17 04:05 PM
3

You just have to force yourself to do it. Honestly the rules of the game seems more like for people who are completely socially inept. The whole goal is to get a date within a month and with your x IQskillset it seems like you can already. You could just modify the challenges so it uses the basic concept of slowly building up your skills (but accelerating the timeframe). For example day 1 could be asking random girls for directions. Then slowly have deeper goals like engaging with girls for a lo…
/r/seduction17/12/17 05:53 PM
2

I find this pretty interesting because for a sport like boxing, I would figure you have a better sense of self than your average person. You have to be confident in your own skill at boxing and you don't actually need someone to tell you your good because you know it. Your problem seems to be self perception and I don't really know how to fix it because I'm having trouble myself, but I think the best place to start is changing your mentality. If you keep thinking the same way you won't ever chan…
/r/seduction08/12/17 07:11 AM
2

I don't get it, if you are pulling on Tinder then it doesn't sound as frustrating as you make it out to be. But if you are getting rejected so much in real life you probably should just reflect about the approach. Maybe your conversations are too focused on yourself and you try too hard about proving your worth instead of getting to know the person. Your post made you sound pretty needy but maybe that's just for the sake of clarity. I would just be reflecting what went wrong in a deeper level an…
/r/seduction08/12/17 06:52 AM
3

I mean it sounds like you are halfway there. If you are already getting to the point of kissing girls then obviously they are at the very least attracted to you and then you just need to escalate. There's a point where you have to say fuck it and fight against your brain and just go for it because if you don't then nothing's going to change unless you run into a situation where the girl just leads. But that situation may never even happen so the ball is in your court to make things happen and ge…
/r/seduction06/12/17 07:10 AM
13

Haha this is awesome man, good for you! Keep it up
/r/seduction04/12/17 06:56 AM
189

Whats the recipe for the lasagna though
/r/seduction02/12/17 05:24 AM
6

Holy shit I actually did the underside of my tongue lmao. I thought wow this must be a new trick because I never have heard of someone using that part of your tongue before
/r/seduction29/11/17 07:53 AM
6

Just move on, there's no point in trying any further if she rejected you already. Next time stop waiting weeks to talk to her and act sooner. It seems you play some fantasies in your head of how you imagine things would go and after you spent weeks thinking about it, you are even more dissapointed that expectations didn't match reality. I think you were vastly overthinking the whole scenario about you guys looking at each other. That's a good confirmation that you should talk to her, but the onl…
/r/seduction17/11/17 07:53 AM
1

It's a personal thing, so it's not inherently right or wrong. It makes a lot of relationships harder unless you find someone with the same values, but it's your body and you do what you want/are comfortable with. Now on the subject if abstinence is worth valuing, you should ask other places for different perspectives because everyone will say no here
/r/seduction15/11/17 07:54 AM
1

Thats like some high school shit getting a bad rep unless you go to a super small college.
/r/seduction10/11/17 07:02 AM
0

Just move on and assume she wasn't interested if you wanted the closure. But regardless, go on to the next girl
/r/seduction08/11/17 10:53 PM
2

Tinder is actually high effort from what I have seen. There's like a whole science to it with your bio, the types of photos, ect. But I guess once you get the method down and then you still don't get why matches, then you need to reconsider why that's happening
/r/seduction08/11/17 07:09 PM
1

Damn that's too real
/r/seduction03/11/17 05:23 PM
2

Maybe you should just take a break. But your actions is completely opposite to what Models was even about. The book talks about pick up through honesty and having true confidence, but you seem to still be stuck having fake confidence and just trying to say what people want to hear. So just take a break and evaluate what you are doing and how you can shift things to be a genuine person
/r/seduction03/11/17 05:16 PM
1

Well doing nothing is 0%
/r/seduction25/10/17 06:35 AM
1

Maybe try to see if the frequency of her bringing guys home can be lowered and then when she does bring guys home then go out for a walk or just do something outside the house. How long do you have left on the lease? You really should try to find someone to sublet it to asap
/r/seduction25/10/17 05:09 AM
1

Damn man I already knew I was a loser, you didn't have to rub it in :(
/r/seduction23/10/17 07:33 AM
1

Just continually use the behaviors that the books talk about. If you just contemplate about it, it really won't do much until you live it out
/r/seduction18/10/17 06:26 AM
1

Fuck I wish I could think of that shit on the spot.
/r/seduction18/10/17 04:09 AM
1

Hell yeah dude, congrats man. Hopefully my time will up next soon
/r/seduction11/10/17 12:40 AM
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